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Photos and Perspective - 5th October

Whilst Photographs are sometimes a good way of comparing height, the further they deviate from the perfect pose, the harder they become to use as reliable evidence. A perfect photo for comparison requires several main requirements:

1. Both subjects are an equal distance from the camera.
2. The shoe sizes are equal, or at least known.
3. They have similar posture, which in some photos is hard to tell.
4. There is no horizontal tilt in the picture and the camera is at least at their face level.
5. The floor is flat and level.

Yes, common sense stuff really, but 90% of photos won't be near perfect. As soon as you start to get away from this ideal set of conditions for 'perfect photos', judging the actual difference is open to interpretation and prone to a larger margin of error. Click this thumbnail below and consider that both pens are identical height. Depending on the distances from the camera, the angle of shooting, height differences can be emphasised or reduced.



The problem of perspective can never be underestimated. It can play havoc with the truth. I lose track of the amount of visitors who submit photos on this site as evidence, when the perspective is skewed in favour of one of the actors in a picture, the footwear can't be seen, the postures are different etc. I've lapsed myself in that area. Also, when mugshots are used as evidence, they normally always don't reveal the actual height of the celebrity standing beside the height chart. You have to consider how far the person is standing away from the board and how high off the ground the camera is. Think about this image below (click it)

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Ideally, in the first image this would be perfect for showing as close to the true height as possible - the camera lense being the same height as the person. As soon as you deviate from this, then Line Of Sight becomes an issue. If the camera is sitting shorter than the height of the person then from the lense it will appear as if the person is taller than they are in reality (the second image). If, on the other hand, the camera lense is above the top of the person's head (third image) then they can look in the photo shorter than they actually are.

Just bear in mind the idea that photos, whilst handy, are only a part of guessing height. In person comparisons, especially when you can compare a celebrity standing beside someone of known height - like a friend - are in my opinion a better method than relying solely on photos or video footage alone.

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bill says on 30/Mar/09
I feel that, unless the person is standing next to something in the picture of known height, it would be vertually impossible to know the height of that person.
1234 says on 26/Feb/09
I agree with J.Lee and Jes. I think its the other way around G man. I am five ten and whenever I stand next to someone who is slightly shorter than me I feel as if they are actually slightly taller than me. And whenever I stand next to someone who is my height actually I feel as if they are about an inch taller than me.
aram x says on 16/Feb/09
Photos can be a little misleading at times, and it can be very hard (if not impossible) to tell the exact height of someone with just photos or video footage alone, but from a good photo or footage you CAN AT LEAST TELL A good GUT INSTINCT FEELING of HOW TALL SOMEONE IS. For example, while our height estimates for Stadynk can be a few inches different, it's just blatantly obviously can't be 8,4".
J.Lee says on 7/Oct/08
Yes, G man i agree with jes. but i see your point. the reason is because a lot of times a girl is five foot nine and 3/4. I am five ten. and i usually think they are a little taller. but then when we compare in a mirror, the top of my head is a little higher. and so usually when a women is just a tiny bit shorter than me, i think she is a little taller. if she is five nine, i may think we are the same. but if she is 1 inch taller than me, i actually feel towered. when i measure myself, im shorter than when the doctors office does. cuz we forget that the top of our head is our height. However, when i see actors, i expect them to be super tall and so when they are my height, i tend to think I'm the taller one.
Arthur says on 17/Sep/08
A good way to get a pretty close estimate of a Celebs height is comparing them to a doorway, standard doorways are 6' 8" now, depending on if the Celeb is barefoot or in shoes most people can use common sense, Your averge Tennis shoe adds about 1" some add 1.5" Dress shoes are the same, While you can't get an absolute, certainly you can tell if someone is or is not 5' 8" or not within reason or if someone is claiming to be 6 foot. So, watch those Doorways.
lol says on 6/Aug/08
the truth is that when you see a person about your height you think always to be taller because you want it from afar he looks shorter than you until he gets close to you
T.K. says on 19/Jun/08
Was just next to Lupe back stage at one of the Kanye West concerts he's touring with. I'm 5' 6" and had on about 3" shoes and he was just a little taller than me so I would guess he's between 5'10" and 6 feet tall.
MJlover says on 30/Apr/08
I agree with Myster. I'm short too, and really want to look taller!
Myster says on 6/Apr/08
You should do one for " What makes someone look taller or shorter" because im short and i wanna look taller and maybe someone wants to look shorter
jes says on 1/Apr/08
g-mann wouldn't that work the other way around. people look taller than they actualy are because when u look at someone you can't always tell where the top of your own head is because of where your eyes are. you would only notice u r taller than someone if the top of there head is near your eye level. what do u think rob?
Danielle says on 23/Jan/08
This is great information. However, there's also something to be said about torso length. One of my friends is 5.8" while I am 5'9". I have longer legs than her, and she has a longer upper torso than I do. When we are sitting, she always appears taller than I am, and when we are standing, I am taller. :)
G-MANN says on 7/Jan/08
Here's something for everyone to think about, when you meet something who is close in height to you, it will always seem like you are a little bit taller because of the way your field of vision works, you still see above the top of their head (unless you get extremely close to them, like nose-to-nose) People only seem noticeable taller when they are 2 inches or more taller than you. I'm 6'1", if I was next to a guy who was 6' he probably wouldn't quite that tall from my visual perspective.
Crissy says on 6/Aug/07
Mark D. thats what makes it seem like some celebritys are bigger than they really are because the camera looks up towards them making them seem taller.
Mark D. says on 24/May/07
A lot of times I've noticed this. You can tell when an actor
is tall because the camera seems to be looking up at them...
TJ says on 28/Feb/07
What is Lupe fiasco's height?
Bibi-NL says on 13/Feb/07
Here is a good example of perspective in a picture: http://supernatural.serieunlimit.com/galerie/supernatural/promo/supernaturalpromo024.jpg
Everybody knows Jared Padalecki is a good few inches taller than Jensen Ackles but in this picture they seem about the same height.. combination of angle, and horrible posture in mr. Padalecki
Editor Rob says on 4/Jan/07
Trying to get ideal photos is harder than it sounds, ideally if you are 5ft 11-6ft you'd be in the best range. 5ft 8 is fine for short to 5ft 10, but you find 6ft-6ft 3 guys might have loose posture or slouch a little more than average height guys beside 5ft 8ers. So when you see a photo of a true 6ft 1 standing with same posture beside 5ft 8, many might think 'this guy is 6ft 2-3'.

Not many are like Tom Cruise/Stallone who regardless of who they are photographed with will stand tall. On the street can sometimes be a bit tricky, gotta watch some of those sidewalks.
Alex says on 4/Jan/07
And for example the picture with me and Kurt Angle. We're both the same distance from the camera, the floor was level, the shot was at a good angle, footwear was about the same I believe, but his posture is off and while he was really only 2.5 inches shorter than me, it looked between 3 and 4 inches. Also with a photo if its smaller it makes the difference bigger so you gotta go by it when its enlarged.
Editor Rob says on 27/Dec/06
Yes, its really to show you can never fully trust a mugshot to show the truth unless you have the camera near top of the head...in the Rose McGowan scene the angle doesn't add much to her height because I think the camera is at a decent height.
Alex says on 26/Dec/06
Rob, you're 5'8 and barefoot in the picture but you look over 5'11. I know if the camera is a bit lower it can make someone taller but by that much? Thats almost a 4 inch difference just having the picture take that far below.
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