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Dean Martin's Height is 5ft 10.5in (179 cm)

American singer and actor, best remembered for songs like "Memories Are Made of This", "Everybody Loves Somebody" and "You're Nobody till Somebody Loves You", and for roles in films like Ocean's 11, Rio Bravo, Artists and Models, Airport, The Young Lions, Bandolero!, You're Never Too Young, Toys in the Attic, and Who Was That Lady?. In the Guardian newspaper it mentioned his penchant for lifts: "Ever the control freak, Jerry had another important bit of input to the team's image, one that cemented the world's impressions of both men. Each stood about 6ft 1in, but Jerry added lifts to Dean's shoes and had the soles and heels of his own shaved so that Dean appeared taller; on top of that, Jerry always worked in a crouch, so that the Monkey, as he referred to himself, never seemed equal to Dean's Handsome Man". If he wore elevators (and it appears he might) he really could have been a 5ft 10 guy. He did attempt to claim "I'm 6ft 1" at one stage. In the film Kiss Me, Stupid (1964) his character was mentioned as weighing 173 pounds.

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Steve said on 20/Oct/15
Larry, you might be right.

Looks like Dean forgot his lifts. Next to 5'10" Johnny Carson he appears to be an inch shorter. Click Here
Larry said on 15/Sep/15
Dean Martin was 5'9".
Steve said on 21/Aug/15
Even with lifts, Dean was an inch shorter than Peter Lawford in the original Ocean's 11.
Arch Stanton said on 19/Aug/15
Wore big lifts. In 5 Card Stud he only looked about 3 inches shorter than Yaphet Kotto!!
Arch Stanton said on 20/Jul/15
Nah actually in some scenes in Kate Elder Wayne can look easily 6 inches taller than him.
Arch Stanton said on 20/Jul/15
The funny thing is that in Rio Bravo he looked as low as 5 ft 8 range at times but in Sons of Katie Elder could look almost 6 ft 1!
If you compare him to John Wayne in both there's massive lifts at play in Sons of!
Arch Stanton said on 7/Jul/15
Might have been close to 6 ft 1 in his biggest lifts. He could certainly pull off 6 ft in his standards.
hijopotamus said on 28/Jun/15
When he was referred as a 6'1" guy it means with shoes on? Was he really 5'10"? 3 inch difference is way too much for that era. Today maybe Stallone, Pitt, Cruise etc wear a 3 inch surplus but I dont even think they go THAT far.
RAY MARTIN said on 27/Jun/15
Arch Stanton said on 9/May/15
It's not a question of "if" he wore elevators, he was a regular lift wearer and in some of his films you can see them as clearly as Bing Crosby's! Watch Artists and Models and pause in the places I said. There's a scene in it in which he's briefly in flip flops and Mallone barefoot I think and he doesn't look much taller!
Arch Stanton said on 9/May/15
Rob I still think the 0.5 is generous here. The barefoot/flipflip scene in Artists and Models with Dorothy Malone or Shirley MacLaine, can't remember which, pretty much rules out over 5 ft 10! I think he was more likely in 177-8 range and wore lifts to pass for 6 ft. I reckon Jerry Lewis might have edged him but Deano usually wore lifts and passed for looking taller.
Arch Stanton said on 11/Jan/15
Later on perhaps Steve but I think he looked 12 stone range in the 50s and 60s. And compare him to the Duke in Rio Bravo and it's difficult to call him very broad shouldered! He frequently wore lifts, I've spotted those brown customs in a number of his films.
Steve said on 11/Jan/15
Looks like Dean is wearing lifts.

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Steve said on 10/Jan/15
I think Dean weighed more. He had very broad shoulders and a big chest.

As far as height, 5'10" sounds about right. Maybe even 5'9 &1/2". But no more than 5'10".

He did wear lifts to boost him to 6'. I think he was shorter by a half an inch to an inch than Jerry Lewis.

Later on because of severe spinal injury caused by a combination of two many pratfalls compounded by a bad fall off a stage in Vegas, Jerry lost at least two inches. From then on he usually wore boots with big heels.

When Frank Sinatra got Dean and Jerry back together on Jerry's telethon, Dean wore regular shoes while Jerry wore his usual boots with what looked like at least two and a half inch heels making him the same height as Dean.
Arch Stanton said on 31/Dec/14
Rob can you mention that in the film Kiss Me, Stupid his character his weight was given as 173 pounds. Dino tries to guess Kim Novak's weight and he says guess mine and she says 173 and a half pounds and he says "you guessed right on the nose" or something. His fan site gives 175 pounds. I think 173 pounds might be the precise one, that was in 1964. You could add something like "in Kiss Me, Stupid (1964) his character was mentioned as being 173 pounds".
Arch Stanton said on 28/Nov/14
For once he forgot his lifts in Ocean's 11 as in one scene he had his feet up on the bed and they looked normal albeit with a heel. Sinatra's looked normal too. It's hard to believe Dino had a full 3 inches on Sinatra.Seems more like 2-2.5 inches max. 5 ft 10 peak I'd say, but his height really has been all over the shop, he can look anything from 5'8.5 to 6'1!!
Arch Stanton said on 28/Nov/14
For once he forgot his lifts in Ocean's 11 as in one scene he had his feet up on the bed and they looked normal albeit with a heel. Sinatra's looked normal too. It's hard to believe Dino had 3 inches on Sinatra. Maybe 2.5 inches. 5 ft 10 peak I'd say, but his height really has been all over the shop, he can look anything from 5'8.5 to 6'1!!
Arch Stanton said on 23/Nov/14
Burt Reynolds had him by like 2 or 3 inches in Cannonball Run. I'd guess a mixture of height loss and Reynolds in lifts!!
Arch Stanton said on 23/Nov/14
By Cannonball Run the years of heavy partying and drinking took its toll. He looked awful by then.
Sam said on 4/Aug/14
You could make an argument that Sinatra had a handsome face but he was quite short and slight which run contrary to typical ideal looks. Yeah, I have a lot of admiration for them and, in addition to being gifted singers, both Martin and Sinatra were solid actors.
Arch Stanton said on 2/Aug/14
I watched two Sinatra concerts from 1965 and 1978 last night and the 78 one at Caesar's Palace in Vegas before the show he was admiring himself in the mirror in a tux, with a super orange tan. He was looking pretty good but didn't he know it! He was stood next to some guys a head taller than him but he still stood out as "the man". One of the stand up comedians made a joke about Sinatra's ridiculously skinny weight when he was younger and being able to walk between harp strings or something!! Sinatra reminds me of a guy I was in school with who was always the most popular, his dad was a luxury car dealer so he used to drive around in Lamborghini Countach and Ferrari Testarossas when he was younger and thought he was the s**t. I saw him not too long ago driving an Audi convertible with orange sunglasses on, still like it, a classic poser, but bald now like his dad. Like Sinatra he's not tall or particularly good looking but he has that super ego and presence which most people, especially women, are allured to. They must have had a whale of time though performing on stage in Vegas and partying all through the night and pulling any woman they wanted though. There are many reasons why we should hate them but you can't help but admire the status that they achieved in life and their level of confidence.
Sam said on 1/Aug/14
Yeah, both Martin and Sinatra dressed and groomed very well, but it was due to their charisma and fame that they each probably got more tail then all of the commentors on celebheights combined, haha, sorry. I like that Dino was never afraid to put Frank in his place, because Sinatra could become a bit of a ego-monster at times and the other Rat Packers were too afraid to not fall in line.
Arch Stanton said on 31/Jul/14
Sinatra wasn't the best looking either but I'm sure women considered both men handsome, and with the charisma that went with it, especially so. Martin wasn't "pretty" but he definitely had the classic dark and suave thing going on with his expensive suits and dark hair and skin. I wouldn't have minded being him but it that way!!
Sam said on 19/Jun/14
I think he's a classic example of a non-handsome guy who was considered very attractive due to his talent, charisma and self-confidence.
[Editor Rob: yeah, his personality certainly elevated him upwards in many women's eyes.]
Arch Stanton said on 19/Jun/14
Although in Rio Bravo I think he just had on normal cowboy boots and it's the shortest I've ever seen him look.
Arch Stanton said on 19/Jun/14
Got a good glimpse of his footwear in The Young Lions and they looked almost as thick as Rob's 4 inches Don's. Really thick and suspicious looking. To date the too big lift wearers I've discovered are Bing Crosby and Dean Martin. I've only spotted a couple of films where Sinatra looked as if he was wearing lifts. Martin and Crosby literally every film I've seen they're clearly wearing them.
Arch Stanton said on 19/Jun/14
Nice one. Somehow he manages to look nearer 2 inches taller than Monty Clift in The Young Lions and barely more than 2 inches shorter than Lee Van Cleef! So he's somehow managing to look almost 6 ft at times. His height is all over the place. I've seen him look anything from 5'8" range - almost 6'1!!
Arch Stanton said on 17/Jun/14
Thanks Rob, can you add a photo? Also a comma needed after Bandolero!
Arch Stanton said on 12/Jun/14
Rob can you update this one too?
Arch Stanton said on 11/Jun/14
Rob can you update this with "American singer and actor, best remembered for songs like "Memories Are Made of This", "Everybody Loves Somebody" and "You're Nobody till Somebody Loves You", and for roles in films like Ocean's 11, Rio Bravo, Artists and Models, Airport, The Young Lions, Bandolero!, You're Never Too Young, Toys in the Attic, and Who Was That Lady?. He was also known for hosting the The Dean Martin Show and The Dean Martin Celebrity Roast.
Arch Stanton said on 11/Jun/14
Rob can you update this with "American singer and actor, best remembered for songs like "Memories Are Made of This", "Everybody Loves Somebody" and "You're Nobody till Somebody Loves You", and for roles in films like Ocean's 11, Rio Bravo, Artists and Models, Airport, The Young Lions, Bandolero! You're Never Too Young, Toys in the Attic, and Who Was That Lady?. He was also known for hosting the The Dean Martin Show and The Dean Martin Celebrity Roast.
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jun/14
In Bad day at Black Rock Brennan did only look 5'11 range, 2.5-3inches shorter than Lee Marvin but he was really old by 1955 and I think would have lost height by then. Brennan looked minimum 6 ft peak to me. 3 inches shorter than strong 6'3" Gary Cooper in 1940.
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jun/14
Yeah dead on 1 hr 15:29-35 the light even glints off the hidden lift and line of it inside the shoes! Is that just me Rob?
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jun/14
Earlier in the film Martin was wearing black customs but at 1 hr 15 range, especially around 1 hr 15.35 you can see the slope of the lift inside those brown shoes too when his leg is up and the high back on them.
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jun/14
Now did they put her in heels to look nearer his height or was that actual barefoot? You can't see but the way they spring up it looks as if it was still her barefoot and him in flip flops!
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jun/14
Rob I've found something major I think. Dean Martin in flips flops next to a barefoot Dorothy Malone in Artists and Models. Click Here Click the usual brown link underneath. Watch from 1hr:05:30 and compare them at around 1 hr 05:52 onwards. Malone was listed at 5 ft 6! Even if she was 5 ft 7 which I think she looked nearer he isn't much taller and he has a little advantage in flip flops! He really looks nowhere near 5'10.5" in comparison! Earlier in the film he was pulling off looking 6 ft in his shoes and now suddenly looks way shorter.
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jun/14
Definitely wearing lifts in Artists and Models. Not only a fair heel on his dresses shoes but when he's dancing you can see the high back on the shoes and his foot almost popping out of them. Given the already quite big heel and the left I reckon he' was getting minimum 2 inches from them and explains why he looks 6 ft range in the film next to a heeled Shirley MacClaine!
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jun/14
Brennan was about 6 ft, but he looked 6'1" in Rio Bravo, that's what I was saying. He was three inches shorter than Gary Cooper in The Westerner. Martin is really difficult to guess because his height seems to fluctuate. In Artists and Models I thought he looked a bit taller than Jerry Lewis actually.
Tom Hughes said on 19/Mar/14
Brennan certainly didn't look 6'1" next to 6'3" James Stewart in "The Far Country".
Burt said on 18/Mar/14
Also I've just read that Skelton said he was 6'1".
Burt said on 18/Mar/14
Walter Brennan was 5'11". Dean Martin was 5'9".
Knowitall said on 17/Mar/14
Walter Brennan was at least six feet. He was almost as tall as six-two Red Skelton on Skelton's program.
Ciaran said on 16/Mar/14
Brennan was 5'11". Martin was 5'9".
Zediah said on 14/Mar/14
Walter Brennan wasn't 6'1"!
Knowitall said on 24/Feb/14
Dean was around five-nine & 1/2. He never left home without his lifts. With them he stood a little over five-eleven.

Walter Brennan was at least six feet tall. He could have been six-one peak.
Arch Stanton said on 11/Jan/14
It is very difficult to see him over 5'10" next to Wayne and Brennan. In most later photos Martin looks a LOT taller which can only be explained by lifts I think. In all honesty Martin can even look a weak 5'9 at times in Rio Bravo but 5'10" I think would at least be more realistic I think. Click Here He looks 5'10" ish next to Sinatra too I think.
Arch Stanton said on 5/Jan/14
Rob have you seen Rio Bravo? I'm pretty sure if you see it again you'll also come back here and be puzzled at how he could have been almost 5'11!
Arch Stanton said on 4/Jan/14
There really aren't too many photo captures which show the true height difference but although Wayne is nearer the camera here you can sort of see Martin in the background had typical 5'9" proportions. Click Here
Arch Stanton said on 4/Jan/14
I mean see the comparison with John Wayne here Click Here . Now go watch Rio Bravo!!
Arch Stanton said on 4/Jan/14
Definitely a lift wearer because in photos outside of Rio Bravo Martin is looking nearer 6 ft in comparison!! You could see his true height in the film and The Duke made him look like a little dark fella!
Arch Stanton said on 4/Jan/14
Rob any chance of a downgrade at least to 5'10? Honestly he looked short in Rio Bravo and looked a good 3-4 inches shorter than Walter Brennan who was I'd guess a strong 6'0, and Wayne looked about 7- 8 inches taller. He certainly looked no more than 5'9" range in it. I hadn't realized that he was reportedly a lift wearer but in Rio Bravo they're all in cowboy boots which give about the same and he looked nowhere near 5'11 next to Wayne.
[Editor Rob: 5ft 10 flat could be more realistic]
Arch Stanton said on 24/Dec/13
Yeah he was 5'10 ish. Like Sinatra he exuded charisma and had that special thing. He's the sort of guy who could have had any woman he ever wanted and every guy respected him. He was super slick even as the airline pilot in Airport who got to kiss Jacqueline Bisset, lucky git! Obviously had some issues though with his height which isn't surprising given how many film stars were over 6 ft during that period.
Mr. Kaplan said on 14/Dec/13
He looked 5'10" in 'Kiss Me, Stupid'. Meanwhile, Cliff Osmond looked gigantic -- at least 6'5".
longtime old movie buff said on 16/Nov/13
Theres a great photo of Dean ,Lawford and Frank, outside walking together at the premiere of Oceans 11. Dean is about an inch less than Peter.Of course ,Dean may have lifts at the time.After doing much research, Lawford was about 5'11 or a bit more.
Knowitall said on 1/Oct/13
Why do you make excuses such as camera angles? Watch the movie. Dean is always at least three inches shorter than Ralph Meeker. So was Dean always standing in a hole?

I say Dean wore lifts because he did. They can be easily spotted in many of his films
Carolyn said on 26/Sep/13
@Knowitall- photos based on camera angles are deceiving. Why do you mention lifts all the time?How do you know Dean wears lifts all the time? A solid
5' 10" to 5' 11" is about right barefeet.
Knowitall said on 23/Sep/13
For some reason that link failed to work.

Try this one then click on the photo to enlarge it:

Click Here

Dean is three inches shorter than six foot one Ralph Meeker. And Dean was wearing lifts in that film.
Knowitall said on 21/Sep/13
Dean next to six foot one Ralph Meeker:

Click Here

There is no way that Dean was over five ten. And he wore lifts in Ada!
Knowitall said on 20/Sep/13
That's nonsense. If Dean was five eleven in his bare feet, he would have appeared to be three inches taller than Ray Walston in Kiss Me Stupid. In reality he was only about an inch taller. Ray Walston was five eight.

And if Dean was five eleven he wouldn't have appeared shorter next to Rick Nelson in Rio Bravo. Nelson was five eleven.

I believe Dean was under five ten. He wore lifts to boost him to where he looked like he was five eleven. But he didn't always wear them. In Kiss Me Stupid he wore normal loafers.
Ray said on 2/Sep/13
I actually knew the golddigger girls that worked for the Dean Martin Show and they told me that Dean is actually 5 ft 11 inches on his barefeet. The lifts is another story that made him look over 6 ft. But remember Dean slouches like the rest of us.
Manny said on 1/Sep/13
5 ft 11 inch in his prime without shoes and a BIG Hollywood star!
Robert said on 1/Sep/13
100% truth - Dean is 5ft 10" to 5ft 11" Flat (5ft 11" in his prime). @knowitall: according to Bobby Darin, John Wayne wore lifts too!
see "Bobby Darin". Big John Wayne is also conscious of his height in films.
If you see movie "El Dorado" with Robert Mitchum, 6' 1" Mitchum's head was on Wayne's chin while walking together on flat ground. Yep!!! John Wayne was an honest fella with lifts in them boots!!!!

@RBC: that's correct. I don't think Dean would wear too much shoe lift because it may affect his golf stance or swing. Perhaps 1 inch more in lifts or NO lifts at all in his golf shoes. Note: golf shoes are like regular shoes.
Robert said on 1/Sep/13
100% truth - Dean is 5ft 10" to 5ft 11" Flat (5ft 11" in his prime). @knowitall: according to Bobby Darin, John Wayne wore lifts too!
see "Bobby Darin". Big John Wayne is also conscious of his height in films.
If you see movie "El Dorado" with Robert Mitchum, 6' 1" Mitchum's head was on Wayne's chin while walking together on flat ground. Yep!!! John Wayne was an honest fella with lifts in them boots!!!!

@RBC: that's correct. I don't think Dean would wear too much shoe lift because it may affect his golf stance or swing. Perhaps 1 inch more in lifts or NO lifts at all in his golf shoes. Note: golf shoes are like regular shoes.
Knowitall said on 1/Sep/13
Five foot eleven actors don't wear lifts.

Dean was no more than five ten. He always had good posture and would stand erect making himself look taller. Lifts boosted him to nearly six feet in shoes. He was visibly shorter than Peter Lawford who was five eleven or slightly above that. And lest we not forget that in Rio Bravo, six foot four John Wayne made Dean look like a midget. He came up to Wayne's lower lip. Walter Brennan who's listed at being five eleven was visibly taller than Dean.

Dean could very well have been five nine and a half. He was shorter than Johnny Carson during one of his last appearances on the Tonight Show when he made a 'surprise' visit. The two men stood next to each other the entire time. Dean was at least an inch shorter. Carson was a solid five ten.
RBC said on 30/Aug/13
Met Dino once at a charity golf tournament in New Orleans.. I am 6' tall and I looked him almost directly eye to eye.
D\'RatPack said on 26/Aug/13
100% - 71 inches in Dean's Prime
Dominic said on 26/Aug/13
A solid 5' 11".
Carol said on 26/Aug/13
To be 100% be truthful - a good, slender well-proportioned 5' 11" bare feet in his prime (1960's). It's a big lie to think he's 5' 7" - 5' 9". The above height posted above is reasonable.
truth to the max said on 26/Aug/13
100% 5' 11" flatfooted in his prime. And a big, big star!
marilyn said on 25/Aug/13
In his prime, 5'11" on his bare feet.
Dino4ever said on 25/Aug/13
Dino is a VERY handsome man and one of Hollywood's biggest stars. He looks great with his actual height/physique flat footed. There are plenty of tall Hollywood stars that doesn't come close to his wonderful charisma - and good looks even.
Ian C. said on 5/Aug/13
I was a big fan of The Dean Martin Show in the sixties, and I remember a segment when Dean did a standing and singing number with Buddy Ebsen, who credibly claimed to be six foot three. Dean introduced Ebsen as "one of the tallest men I've ever met," and then blithely announced that he himself was six foot two. Well of course, it was obvious that Ebsen was quite a bit taller than Dean. So Dean was pretty touchy about his height, and willing to lie about it.
Knowitall said on 9/Jul/13
You sure it was Dean Martin? I saw him in the flesh and he was no more than five eleven. Which means barefoot he was five ten. If he had a lift in his shoes, more like five nine barefoot. And he just about always whore lifts.
cicciuzzu said on 5/Jul/13
I was 5' 11" and I ran into Martin on Broadway. He towered over me so he must have had fantastic lifts in his shoes.
Knowitall said on 29/Jun/13
"Doc Holliday says on 2/Aug/12 
If you watch the ending of Rio Bravo, Dino and Walter Brennan are walking together down the street, both in their cowboy boots. Brennan was a good four or five inches taller than Martin... and Brennan is officially listed as having been 5'11". That makes Martin no more than 5'7... 5'8 at tops."

Doc, I was reading a couple of books where Walter Brennan was described as being six foot one. Then I watched on youtube a clip of the Red Skelton show where Brennan guested. He was about the same height as Skelton which surprised me. Skelton was supposedly six foot two. I believe he was more six one so Brennan was much taller than five eleven. That explains why he's taller in Rio Bravo than Dean Martin as well as Ricky Nelson who was just under six feet tall. Brennan looks to be two inches taller than Nelson when he stands up straight.

So with lifts, Martin was still about three inches shorter than Brennan.

And for the goofballs over in the John Wayne thread who keep claiming Wayne wasn't six four and wore gigantic lifts, Brennan was about three inches shorter than Wayne when his character stood up straight which was rare in that film since Brennan's Stumpy walked with a decided limp. Looking at the film I've never noticed Wayne wearing lifts. Just regular cowboy boots.

I believe Martin was around five nine. With lifts he stood a close to or at five eleven. With lifts he was the same height as Jerry Lewis who was five ten.
Knowitall said on 21/May/13
One more time. John Wayne NEVER wore lifts. That's ludicrous.

Just because some people who didn 't care for the man pushed this ridiculous lie doesn't mean it can be accepted as truth.

If we took all the lies and distortions that came out of Hollywood, they would easily fill the Hollywood Bowl with a spill over into the LA Memorial Colosseum.
Knowitall said on 21/May/13
In Murderer's Row, Dean was several inches shorter than six foot one Karl Malden. And as usual, Dean was wearing lifts in the film.

I'm beginning to think that Dean was no more than five nine.

Here Dean appears to be an inch shorter than five foot ten Johnny Carson:

Click Here
Knowitall said on 20/May/13
John Wayne never wore lifts. That bogus story started when Robert Mitchum spread it around. Mitchum didn't get along with Wayne, possibly because the two men were at opposite ends of the political spectrum.

Just look at Wayne's cowboy boots in his films. It's quite obvious they're regular boots with 2" heels.

Dean was the one who wore lifts. And they are obvious.
Sam said on 15/May/13
tex, by that time (after around 1960) Wayne wore lifts all the time on-screen which could make him easily look 6'6" range. Sure, Martin wasn't the 6'1" he claimed to be but I doubt he was less than a strong 5'10".
tex said on 13/May/13
In "Son's of Katie Elder" Martin is a good half foot shorter than Wayne. If Wayne was 6'4" (around) then Martin was no more than 5'9".
Knowitall said on 28/Apr/13
John Wayne made Dean look like a midget in Rio Bravo.

Dean was at least two inches shorter than five eleven Walter Brennan.

I think Dean was five nine in his prime and almost always wore lifts to appear taller. Without lifts he was an inch shorter than five foot ten Jerry Lewis. With them he was the same height.

Check out the lifts in Dean in this revealing photo taken on the Paramount lot in the 1950s:

Click Here

And here's Dean on the Tonight Show looking to be at least an inch shorter than five foot ten Johnny Carson:

Click Here
Jeannie said on 11/Nov/12
I met Dean Martin in 1965 in Maui. I have a photo of him standing next to me and he had on golf shoes (probably no lifts). He was just coming in from another island playing golf with Nicki Hilton. I am 5'7" and had 1 1/2" heels on and he is considerably taller than I was. I would say he was at least 6'
leonari said on 4/Aug/12
Doc Hollywood + Doug: Hahaha! Dean Martin my height? eye opening. Get lost. Your posts are based on fiction
Doc Holliday said on 2/Aug/12
If you watch the ending of Rio Bravo, Dino and Walter Brennan are walking together down the street, both in their cowboy boots. Brennan was a good four or five inches taller than Martin... and Brennan is officially listed as having been 5'11". That makes Martin no more than 5'7... 5'8 at tops.
JC Parker said on 14/Jun/12
Click Here Look how tall John Wayne looks next to Dino! How many inches was there between those two?
Doug said on 9/Jun/12
I saw a video on You Tube with Games Garner (who towered over Martin..Garner was
6'2 and Bing Crosby who was also taller then Martin. I's day more like 5'7-5'8
with lifts.
Cynna said on 25/Sep/07
Jerry Lewis has lost considerable height because of age & tremendous weight gain. People who met him used to be surprised at how tall he was, since he gave the impression of being a little guy onstage.

Yes, Dino boxed -- when people asked him about it, he'd say he'd won all but 11 bouts. Invariably they'd ask how many he had fought, to which he'd usually answer, "A dozen." But when the records were checked, they showed Dino Crocetti had fought 36 bouts & won 25. It was when he was about 16 -- most of his opponents were older & more mature physically. Dino had several damaged knuckles, since he had little money for proper tape for his fingers & his manager didn't seem to know how to wrap them anyway. The broken cartileges didn't stop him from becoming a sleight-of-hand artist and a well-known card sharp (the prevailing wisdom around Hollywood was, don't bet much when either Dean Martin or Johnny Carson is dealing!)

A friend & I saw "Rio Bravo" a few nights back--Dino was 4 to 5 inches shorter than John Wayne, who was supposedly 6'4-1/2", and according to some, had a heightened heel on his cowboy boots (& possible build-up inside them) so he'd be taller than most of the villains, who were often played by giants -- guys like George Kennedy & Claude Akins & Jack Palance.
The S said on 12/Aug/07
I've heard Jerry Lewis say not long ago that him abd Dean when working together were both 6' Then on the internet it said Jery Lewis was 5'11" And I guess Dean was the same. But neither is taller than 6' And I definitely think Dean was taller than 5'10 1/2" But whatever.
DAN said on 8/Apr/07
chris said on 31/Mar/07
Dean looked to have a good inch on a 5'10" Montgomery Clift in The Young Lions
marlon said on 2/Mar/07
dean martin looked a full 5ft 10 in the film the young lions.
he wasnt a full 6ft though.
footballed28 said on 8/Feb/07
it is clear to see from the picture that this guy had some height to begin with but favored special shoes to make himself look 5'11+..I say he is about 5'10 barefoot
footballed28 said on 25/Jan/07
I swear people in the olden days measured their height with shoes is it that virtually all male actors who dont look tall to me on AMC movies be 5'11 - 6'2??? mismeasurement perhaps
sf said on 25/Sep/06
Didn't realize Frank2 was still her, sluggin it out over Dean...

[Editor Rob: not posting, but might occasionally read a page or 2...]
sf said on 25/Sep/06
Rob, that's a great pic - "lifts ahoy" for Dean...
George H said on 25/Sep/06
rofl, check out Sinatra's shoes! They got some layers going on, too. Bunch of cheaters, rofl.
Charlie said on 2/Sep/06
I watched Showdown with Dean and Rock Hudson tonight. I agree with Frank2's observation that Martin and Hudson resembled one another. Though Hudson was 7 or 8 inches taller, they both had similar physiques. Big chests and both very nicely built. Both had very dark hair. When you see both Martin and Hudson unshaven in the movie, the resemblance is even more apparent. The black stubbly growth makes it hard to tell them apart if you're not sitting close to the television. Obviously, Hudson looks enormous when the two are standing next to each other, as he did with all his costars. When I see him standing next to normal sized guys, Hudson always looks astoundingly tall.
Interestingly enough, Hudson also knew how to box. Learned for the filming of Iron Man.
I read the review of Showdown and learned that Hudson and Martin did not get along for some reason. It didn't say what the problem was though. They both usually got along well with fellow actors and actresses, so it's a bit surprising.
Would have loved to see Martin and Hudson in a boxing match. I'd put my money on the big guy- Hudson.
Rut said on 15/Aug/06
Frank2: with all due respect: You only assume what you think what is right, it still is speculation in some cases (heights)
Larry said on 15/Aug/06
Yes, I think I read that Dean had boxed.
Frank2 said on 14/Aug/06
You're right. Dean had big hands. I noticed that when I shook one of them. He also had big shoulders. Dino had been a boxer and supposedly had broken a few of his fingers. It's easy to see a couple of them are slightly crooked when you watch his TV shows.
Viper652 said on 13/Aug/06
That Fess Parker clip proves Dean is no more than 5-10. Also noticed that Dean has some unusually massive hands for a 5-10 guy.
Frank2 said on 12/Aug/06
Here's an interesting observation I made. I was just watching Man's Favorite Sport starring Rock Hudson and noticed that he strongly resembeled Dean Martin! With the exception of being a lot taller (how about 7 to 8 inches!), Hudson had basically the same hairline, same profile and a similar smile. His torso was also similar. Dean was a big man when it came to his chest. He probably wore at least a 46 regular coat. Hudson also had a big chest as well. Both men were what I would refer to as husky with thin legs which is why Dean looked taller than he was. I met both over the years and Hudson was enormous, probably at least 6'5" possibly 6'6". He was at least two inches taller than John Wayne. Only Clint Walker was a little taller.
Frank2 said on 11/Aug/06
By the way, for those who still argue that Johnny Carson was nearly 6' tall, here's Johnny! with the late Buck Owens: Click Here
In his two inch cowboy boots, Buck was about 6'1".
Frank2 said on 11/Aug/06
Speaking of goombahs, I've seen a few tall goombahs. One was in NYC's "Little Italy" when I was there with a friend after we saw a Broadway show. This guy looked like the typical goombah portrayed in a Hollywood film. He had two extraordinarily beautiful, albeit slightly sleazy women, one on each arm. He wore a beige cashmere overcoat and a beige fedora. His block-long limo awaited him outside the bakery. I noticed at least two other rather large men, both looking like Jr. goombahs standing outside by the car. This was back in the early 1990's when I would travel to NYC once a year on business. Like me the fellow I was with worked back in Hollywood in the biz. He was always the friendly type, too friendly for his own good, so he struck up a conversation with the chief goombah letting him know he worked in the entertainment business. Well, this goombah was truly impressed and invited us both to his home. I passed. Maybe it was the fact that the guys outside were obviously armed or maybe it was just 'cause I was scared shitless!
Brad said on 11/Aug/06
All them goombah italian saloon singers are 5' 10" or less. I bet Frankie Valli is 5' 3".
Larry said on 11/Aug/06
At 6'5" myself, BUT I KNOW 5'10" isn't short. I saw Fess Parker twice in San Antonio. He was my height: 6'5". Didn't get to meet him though. Ever notice Dean's hands? They surely seemed large for his size. Wonder if he ever boxed?
Frank2 said on 10/Aug/06
What makes you think his son would admit to Dean not being at least 6' tall? Dean's ex, Jeanne still claims he was six feet. My mom claims my dad was 6' when in fact he was barely 5'10". I know many of examples where family members refuse to admit to the tue height of their loved ones. Go by all the photos and clips I've provided. There is no way that Dean was any taller than 5'10". I know. I stood right next to the guy!

Ye gods and little fishes!!!!
Brad said on 10/Aug/06
Somebody asked Ricci Martin, lay this to rest.
Frank2 said on 9/Aug/06
Here's Dean with 5'8" Liberace and 5'10" Art Carney: Click Here
In this clip it doesn't appear that Dean is wearing lifts.
Brad said on 9/Aug/06
The Gilford-Dean video did it for me. 5' 10" for Dean is about right. My father as V.P. of Playbill Magazine knew Jack and 5' 9" is correct. Dean just beats him by an inch or two.
Frank2 said on 6/Aug/06
I met Fess and he was a solid 6'5". Wonderful man, one of the nicest people to ever work in Hollywood.
Larry said on 6/Aug/06
The photograph with Parker shows (to my eyes) about 6-7" difference. I saw Fess Parker in San Antonio a couple of times at the Alamo Festival on March 6. I wasn't really close (maybe 30 feet away), but Fess looked my height (6'5").
Frank2 said on 4/Aug/06
Notice how tall Burt Reynolds is next to Carson in this clip from The Tonight Show: Click Here
Reynold's is 5'10" barefoot, but his custom boots with two inch heels and lifts inside make him several inches taller than 5'10" Carson.
Frank2 said on 4/Aug/06
Dean with 5'10" Johnny Carson as his surprise guest: Click Here
Dean's definitely wearing his two inch lifts while Johnny wears normal shoes.
Frank2 said on 3/Aug/06
I'm looking for the clip where Bob Mitchum shows up on Dean's show and Dean says "I'm 6'1" and he makes me look like nothin'!" 6'1" Mitchum towers over Dean.
Frank2. said on 3/Aug/06
Here's Dean claiming he's 6'1" to 6'5" Fess Parker: Click Here
Anyone who sees only a four inch difference is in dire need of glasses!
Frank2. said on 3/Aug/06
From the shape of the shoe, but more importantly from the height of the ankle bone. That's the key.
George H said on 3/Aug/06
Frank2, maybe I wasn't making myself clear enough. What I meant was. How can you distinguish from the outside if an inside lift is 1 or 2 inches high?
Frank2 said on 2/Aug/06
Dean wore custom made black suede boots that had an inch built up inside along with a normal inch-high heel. Down earlier somewhere in this thread is a photo of Dean wearing them while on his NBC TV show. I emailed it to Rob to post for me. You can easily tell his ankle bone is higher than normal.
George H said on 2/Aug/06
Frank2, just curious. How do you know Dean's lifts were 2 inches high? I mean, I don't doubt that he wore lifts, but how do you know how high his lifts were? Is there a way to tell?
Frank2 said on 1/Aug/06
Here's Dean with Michael Landon:Click Here
Landon at best was 5'9". He always wore lifts and the times I saw him with his lifts he was still at least two inches shorter than me. He could have even been 5'8" barefoot.

Frank2 said on 1/Aug/06
Here's Dean with 5'9" Jack Gilford & 5'11" Orson Welles: Click Here
I worked with Orson and believe me, by the 1960's (at well-over 300 lbs.) he had packed down to 5'11".

You know, these shows were far better than the usual crap we see today on the tube.
Frank2 said on 1/Aug/06
Dean with 5'7" Juliet Prowse (wearing high heels) and Bob Hope who by the time of this clip had lost about an inch and was roughly 5'9": Click Here
Dean was wearing his two inch lifts.
Frank2 said on 1/Aug/06
Here's Dean with Eddie Albert: Click Here
Albert was my height or 5'11". In the clip, Dean is wearing two inch lifts and is still shorter than Albert. I knew Albert and he and I were the exact, same height.
Frank2 said on 1/Aug/06
Check this out: Click Here
It's a clip of Dean with 6'3" Buddy Ebsen. Dean is obviously five inches shorter.
Frank2 said on 30/Jul/06
That film was The Young Lions. Brilliant movie! One of the best!

By the time of that film's production, clift had lost about an inch after his awful auto accident in 1958. Before, he stood about 5'10". After the accident he was in a lot of pain and was drinking quite a bit as well as using prescription pain killers. In fact he'd be so drunk that it would interrupt filming. He was also mixing dangerous barbiturates with alcohol. For what it's worth, it was Dean Martin who unlike the rest of the cast decided to help Monty get back on his feet. Dean was very supportive while others where quite abusive. I learned all this from talking with people who worked on that film. And unlike his screen persona, Dean was no drunk. It was mainly an act.

The more I've delved into Dean's life, the more I'm convinced he was a terrific guy. So what if he wasn't a six footer. He stood tall by his actions.
D. Ray Morton said on 30/Jul/06
"What was the war movie with Dean & Montgomery Clift?"

The Young Lions. Yeah, Dean and Clift looked pretty close there.
Larry said on 30/Jul/06
Frank2 - Feel like I'm GETTING kicked! :-) I'm primarily doing the therapy on my own, but I do it EVERY day. The roughest part is stairs. Our house is one story, so we drive to the mall & I walk (trudge?) up & down those stairs. Bet I've been called some bad names? :-) What was the war movie with Dean & Montgomery Clift? I think Brando was in it too. Anyway, Dean & Montgomery looked about the same height (though Dean was MUCH larger built).
Frank2 said on 29/Jul/06
I'm still kicking. Glad to hear you're improving.

I just happened to come by the story posted by Roy's Nephew and had to comment. Dean was no more six feet than Tom Cruise is 5'10". Over the years I've met a lot of celebs including Jimmy Stewart and you're correct. Dean was about five inches shorter. With 6'5" George Kennedy he was even shorter. On youtube I believe they have several clips showing Dean next to Stewart and he's always five inches shorter. There's a telling clip showing him with Rowan and Martin. I met both. Dan Rowan was a solid six footer and Dick Martin was my height or 5'11". Both are taller than Dean. When bob Mitchum shows up, Dean looks quite small which prompted Dino to quip, "I'm six-one and he makes me look like nothin'!" Well, Dean wasn't anywhere near being 6'1", but Bob Mitchum was and it's easy to see how much shorter Dean is standing next to Bob.
Larry said on 29/Jul/06
Frank2 - You're back! Hi fella! Or are you? My therapy is coming along, but my leg still hurts like the very devil.
In BANDELERO, Dean looks 4-5 inches shorter than Jimmy Stewart to me & about 1/2 foot shorter than George Kennedy.
Frank2 said on 27/Jul/06
Oh, pleeeeze! Six feet my.....

Check this out: Click Here
Dean is at least two inches shorter than six foot Glen Campbell. I'm 5'11" exactly and when I met Dean and he was not wearing his lifts he was shorter than me by an inch. With his lifts he was my height.

While you're at youtube, type in Dean Martin and you'll see there's quite a lot of clips of his old TV show, many showing that he was no more than 5'10".

That's it for me. Bye, Bye
Roy-s Nephew said on 23/Jul/06
Hey, Editor Rob--

The discussion of Dino's height only seems to go back to Jan. '06, but several references are made to letters that appeared before that. Where are the earlier letters? Are they still accessible? Some of your other pages go back much further than that.

[Editor Rob: I've not got around to making older posts available, I keep meaning to, but not yet sorry]
Roy's Nephew said on 22/Jul/06

I was introduced to this site a few days ago-- imagine, a whole site devoted to the heights of famous people!! -- and read with interest & amusement the arguments about the height of Dean Martin. For those interested I can contribute two pieces of information---

ITEM # 1-- When they first married, my Aunt Helen & her husband Roy stayed with my parents for several months. We all had our heights marked on the kitchen door frame, grownups included. Uncle Roy's mark (stocking feet -- I still remember he had holes in his sox) -- was [& still is] 5 ft 10 and 3 quarter inches high. I called my Aunt Lou who lives there now & had her double-check last night. (My final line is a scant 5 ft 10 & I always thought Roy seemed about an inch taller than me.)

ITEM # 2--- In the early '50s Roy worked at a large hotel in Las Vegas where, after playing around in the swimming pool, he had his picture taken with Dean Martin, who was performingg there with Jerry Lewis at the time. (No Jerry in the pic.) There are 2 shots taken from this photo ---the original is full-length, showing both men from head to toe. The other is an enlargment of the top third or so showing Dean & Roy from about the midriff up, dripping wet and grinning like two old buddies (they had only met a half hour earlier) with Dean's hand on Roy's shoulder and Roy sporting a mark on his opposite cheek that Dean had given him earlier. Uncle Roy had several stories about this mark, but the real one was that in the pool they had jumped after the same beachball & Dino's elbow had caught Roy in the face and toppled him. (Dean was powerful & there are many stories about his physical strengh.) Dean was concerned and contrite, which may be why he took pains to give Roy a fun photo.

I searched out copies of both views and studied them last night. The two men are standing in front of a wall & are both the same distance from the camera -- (this is very important!!) Both men are nearly nekkid [swim trunks only, Dean's holding a towel or somethig in right hand] and neither is wearing lifts, or for that matter, shoes.

AND ... Dean Martin appears to be at least 1 inch taller than Uncle Roy. Both are standing flat on their heels, no tippy-toes, & it certainly can't be because of Dean's hair--- it is flat, wet & very curly.

So. Between the doorway marks and this barefoot photgraph, Dean Martin's height must have been right around 6 feet tall, and possibly a shade over. It can't have been much less.

Uncle Roy had pics taken with quite a few celebrities in Vegas (including Dino again, years later, both of them clad and shod & Dino still looking at least an inch taller) but this was his favrite story & he showed the photos to everybody. Several family members had copies, and Roy's, of course, was framed & on the wall. And Dean Martin was a big family favorite, and still is.

PS-- I can provide elaboration on the pool episode and anecdote or 2, if anyone wants. He was a charming & humorous man.

Frank2 said on 12/Jun/06
Yes, several times. He was 5'9" in his prime.
Nolifts81 said on 12/Jun/06
Frank,have you ever met Tony Curtis? How tall was Tony Curtis?
Nolifts81 said on 12/Jun/06
Dean Martin(Dino Crocetti) was a great friend of my Grandfather Arcangelo Masciale(my omonimous). My Grandfather was the owner of an Hotel in Las Vegas and Dino was often in his Hotel, they were good friends. My grandfather was a weak 5'11 and I remember that he said to me that Dino was his same height so, maybe, Dean Martin wasn't a full 5'11" but a weak 5'11" as my grandfather. I think 179cm is right.He said to me a lot of time that Frank Sinatra was short, shorter than people think.He had heel and lift inside the shoes for to appear taller.
Frank2 said on 11/Jun/06
In Ada, Dean was considerably shorter than 6'1" Ralph Meeker, 6' Ford Rainey, 6'1" Larry Gates and for that matter, most of the entire male cast! In fact, of all the films he appeared in, this one made him look like a shrimp! Check it out. You tell me what you think.

In Airport, Dean was two inches shorter than 6' Barry Nelson. Somewhere I used to have a production photo taken on the set which showed Dean on a box when standing next to 6'2" Burt Lancaster. I found it while working at Universal.

In Bandolero, Dean was five inches shorter than 6'3" Jimmy Stewart. This is consistant with what we saw on Dean's NBC variety show when Stewart was a guest.

In Bells Are Ringing, Dean wass three inches shorter than 6'1" Fred Clark. 5'10" Jerry Lewis was also three inches shorter than Clark in Visit to a Small Planet.

In Career, Dean was two inches shorter than 6' Robert Middleton, was four inches shorter than 6'2" Jerry Paris and almost three inches shorter than slightly over 6' tall Anthony Franciosa.

I'd keep on going, but it's Sunday and I've got a few things to do.

Frank2 said on 11/Jun/06
Just the same, Dean was never more than 5'10". Frank was 5'7". Watch The Tender Trap (1955) and you'll clearly see that Sinatra and David Wayne are the exact, same height and Wayne was 5'7". Bing was also 5'7". And go ahead and say it.
MHouillon said on 11/Jun/06
I just saw a 1959 show with Frank Sinatra, Bing Crosby and Dean Martin. Dean is definitely not under 178cm. 179cm is just fine. I think Frankie was already wearing his lifts and Dean was (with or without lifts) more than just 2 inches taller than Frankie.

Frank2: I don't want to attack you personally, but I am very close to say : "Hey, people. Wanna know the real height of a celeb ? Take the height, that Frank2 claims and add 1-1.5 inches."

Once we had a guy here, who knew and met and who worked with any celeb in the world. Sometimes you got the impression he even knew any unceleb in the world.
His name is Mr. R.
Many people here on thought, that he used to downgrade ALMOST everyone slightly. Are you related to him, Frank2 ? Or are you his brother?

Don't take everything too serious (Except my postings ;-) )


P.S. I'm still waiting on your answer on the Tom Jones height!

Frank2 said on 20/May/06
I stood beside him when he was in his early fifties and he was shorter than me and I'm a solid 5'11". Steve, please look at the shot of Jerry Lewis with 5'10" Vic Damon and tell me that Lewis was 6'. This is getting ridiculous! Dean was no more than 5'10". He wore huge lifts which can be clearly seen on his NBC TV show as well as in his films. He was consistantly shorter than many actors who were truly 6' tall. And Ayreon, Sinatra was not 5'9". He was more like 5'7" and he wore huge lifts. I mean come on people!
Steve W said on 19/May/06
Think everbody missed it on this one - stood beside him outside an LA restaurant - he was about 75 and I'm 5'11' and we were eye to eye. I'd say 6'0" in his career days.
Frank2 said on 8/May/06
In that photo I supplied, just look how far up Dean's ankle bone is on his right leg which is crossed over his left. You can clearly see the bulge. Those custom-made boots boosted him by at least three inches.
Ron Burns said on 5/May/06
You list Dean Martin at 5-10.5!! I've never seen him listed that short. He was
6-0 according to Jerry Lewis in his book "Dean and Me, a Love Story". Also, Deana Martin, Dean's daughter has a book and lists Dean's height also at 6-0. Son
Ricci Martin's book gives Dean's height as over 6 feet. Where did you get this 5-10 business?

[Editor Rob: he wore lifts and from a person who has met him in the past he estimated him nearer 5ft 10 than 6ft...I better deflect this onto Frank2, the guy who met him ;-) Frank2???]
Frank2 said on 26/Apr/06
Yes I did. When he was younger I think he was close to 6'2". When I saw him which was about seven or eight years ago he was about 6' even having shrank some. I saw him wandering around the mall in Century City where I saw several famous people. I walked up and said hello and we spoke briefly. He was very nice. The photo with Busey is interesting since I met Gary one day at Fox when he was doing Predator II and he's slightly taller than me. I'd say Gary is about 6'. Henry looks no more than 5'10" these days if that photo is accurate.
Frank2 said on 21/Apr/06
I prefer Hope and Crosby over Martin and Lewis. I found the latter team to be far too juvenile as well as unfunny for my cultivated taste. Once Dean left and Jerry went on his own, things got worse. Jerry was a "hit and miss style" comedian. Mostly misses. On the other hand, Dean became a damned fine actor and was very funny on his NBC TV show.

Harvey, Reagan was 6' after he left office. I know since I met him. I'm 5'11" and he was an inch taller than me. He was also a BIG MAN! This guy was huge! He had big bones and huge hands. He must have worn a size 50 jacket and he wasn't fat. Far from it. Just big!
Frank2 said on 8/Apr/06
Go to the following site: Click Here
Scroll down until you see the clip with Peter Lawford from Ocean's Eleven. Click on it and it will play. You can clearly see that Lawford is three inches shorter than 6'2" Cesar Romero which makes him 5'11". Unfortunately the clip with Dean won't play. In the film Dean is an inch shorter than Lawford. And Dean isn't wearing lifts in that film. Later in the film when Romero is next to 6'5" character actor Robert Foulk who plays Las Vegas Police Chief Wimmer, it's Cesar who's three inches shorter.
Gonzalo said on 7/Apr/06
IDMB says that Charles Napier was 6 feet. They don`t say he was Alan`s son and they are reliable in those things. I saw Alan Napier the other day in one of my favourite movies: Random harvest. You should watch it
Gramps said on 7/Apr/06
It looks like my second "Charles Napier" post never made it to this page yesterday. I did further research following my 6/Apr/06 post and found that although several Internet sites listed actor Charles Napier as the son of Alan Napier, this cannot be true. As Frank2 states, Charles was born in Kentucky in 1936, whereas Alan did not immigrate to the U.S. until 1940. Further, Charles' website makes no reference to Alan, but only to a middleclass boyhood in Kentucky. I STILL love that famous line he gave John Belushi through that crooked smile of his! According to Napier, that scene took about a month to shoot because Belushi was scared of Charles due to the tough, sadistic roles he had played. The 70 year-old Charles is currently appearing in a Bud Lite commercial.
Frank2 said on 6/Apr/06
The answer is Mickey Rooney who played leading roles once he was an adult in a number of films in the forties and fifties. Mickey is always listed at 5'3" but was actually shorter by at least an inch. I first met him back in the 1960's and he looked like he was about 5'2" possibly even 5'1-1/2". Now at 85 I'm sure he's even shorter.

I haven't watched Big Jim Mclain in a couple of years and don't remember if Arness had any scenes with Napier. I'd say Arness would have been about an inch or so taller. Arness was several inches taller than Wayne. In the film Wayne's character is referred to as "76" (by actress Veda Ann Borg) for 76 inches in height or 6'4". Then we see Arness with Wayne and it makes Wayne look shorter. Early on as a kid I thought Wayne wasn't as tall he claimed until I realized watching Arness in the old B&W Gunsmoke episodes that he was taller than anyone in the series including 6'3" Dennis Weaver.

And I've met Charles Napier at The Golden Boot Awards. Where did you ever read that he was Alan's son? Somehow I doubt it. Charles was born in Kentucky in 1936. Alan was British and came to the US sometime after that date having earlier appeared in a few early British sound films as well as on stage.

By the way, speaking of Charles, he's a little taller than me so I'd say about 6'.
Parker said on 6/Apr/06
Shortest - Danny Devito
Paul said on 6/Apr/06
Shortest actor - Mickey Rooney?
Gonzalo said on 6/Apr/06
In Big Jim Mclain was also another screen giant, James Arness. Were Arness and Napier together? Who was taller? I guess Arness.
I remember Napier in Marnie. He towered over Sean Connery
Frank2 said on 5/Apr/06
Give that fellow a cigar! Yes, Alan 6'6" Napier. He towered over everyone he appeared with. In Big Jim McClain he was taller than 6'4" John Wayne. I met Napier on the set of the old Batman TV series and I came up to his chin! And I'm 5'11"! Arthur Treacher was about 6'4" which was quite tall, but not as tall as Napier.

Now here's another quiz. Name the shortest actor in Hollywood who played leading roles and no, not Alan Ladd. This one should be rather easy.
Paul said on 5/Apr/06
My first guess was Napier also. He looks 6'5" or 6'6" although that's strictly a guess. Burt Ward's "book" said he was 6'9" which is so outlandish that it's laughable. I guess Burt needed to justify his own reported height of 5'9".
Parker said on 5/Apr/06
Alan Napier
Frank2 said on 5/Apr/06
Nope. Here's a hint; the actor in question served as a butler to a wealthy fellow who had a thing for bats.
larry said on 4/Apr/06
Ok Frank2, I can SEE the guy! It's Arthur Treacher (sp?). Wasn't he in MARY POPPINS and was once Merv Griffin's "sidekick". IF it's him I'd say he was at least my height: 6'5".
Frank2 said on 3/Apr/06
Here's The Height Quiz for the Day:

Name the actor who appeared in numerous films going back to the advent of sound who's career spanned decades ending finally in the early 1980's that no other actor who appeared with him was taller or even close to being as tall. Hint: He was British by birth. It's really amazing to watch the films he appeared in since actors who are listed as being quite tall themselves become shrimps next to him. He made Anthony Quinn and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. look short and both men were over 6'.
Frank2 said on 3/Apr/06
Go to the following page and then scroll down and you'll see a great photo of Dean with The Duke and Frank and Reagan: Click Here Dean is obviously shorter than Reagan by at least two inches and he comes up to The Duke's nose. At the time of this photo, Reagan was still 6' and Wayne had shrunk by an inch and was about 6'3". And notice that Sinatra is only a couple of inches shorter than Dean, about the same amount that Steve Dunne was in being taller than Dean in that other photo.
Frank2 said on 3/Apr/06
Explain how Dean looks to be the same height as Steve Dunne. That's gotta be a joke on your part. Right? You're pulling my leg. And with the shot of Lawford your admitting to me that Dean is same height (which he really isn't) must mean you trust my opinion that Lawford was 5'11". And the shot with 6'1" Jack Jones shows Dean to be at least three inches shorter. I'd say closer to four myself. And with Jimmy Stewart he's a good five inches shorter. A good rule of thumb is when someone comes up to another's eye level they're five inches shorter. And getting back to Dean with Steve Dunne, watch the film Ten Thousand Bedrooms. Dean is consistently two inches shorter than Dunne. In some scenes he looks three inches shorter. He's the same height as 5'10' Walter Slezak and looks like a shrimp next to 6'3" Paul Henried. And explain why Dean is three inches shorter than 6'1" Larry Gates in Ada. As for Glenn Campbell, he was when I saw him about a half an inch taller than me so I guess that makes Dean even shorter! I put 6' since that what's officially listed for him. The whole point is that Dean was no more than 5'10". He was perfectly proportioned for his height with broad shoulders so he photographed taller. But in person he wasn't as tall as he looked on film or TV.
bill said on 3/Apr/06
jerry made himself look smaller by slouching and thin soled shoes, stated in a documentary by the man himself
Frank2 said on 24/Mar/06
Both were 5'4".
Glenn said on 24/Mar/06
I dont mean Dean and jerry,just maybe you wrong once or twice on site,just like myself or anyone else.
larry said on 24/Mar/06
Who's wrong about what? Wait, let me write this down; I'm losing track. :-) Is Glenn wrong ABOUT Frank2 being wrong OR is Frank2 wrong about Glenn THINKING he (Frank2) is wrong, OR am I wrong about... So, I gather that Jerry and Dean were originally the same height. Right? :-)
Frank2 said on 23/Mar/06
About what? Dean and Jerry being 5'10"? If so then I'm right and you're wrong. I've been wrong on many things, but that ain't one of 'em.
Glenn said on 23/Mar/06
You may never know you were wrong.but you were.
Frank2 said on 22/Mar/06
Let's see.....when was the last time I was wrong.....Hmmmmmmmmmm.....
Glenn said on 22/Mar/06
Though we both are rarely wrong Frank,sometimes we are.
Frank2 said on 21/Mar/06
Glenn, My wife says the same thing....then she has to admit I'm right and that really bugs her!
Babyboomer said on 21/Mar/06
Hi Folks! :-) Frank2 - you are dead on with Chaney Jr. (Creighton Tull Chaney, as I'm sure you know). I met him & he WAS 6'2" tall. Saw Vincent Price up close and he was 6'4", though I thought he looked more 200 poundish, and not the 180 that was claimed at the time. The other heights you list look correct to me. Ever see the movie THE STUNT MAN? In it a character asks; "How tall was King Kong?" The other character answers; "18 or 20 feet."
"King Kong was 18" tall" remarks the 1st character. I don't think some people get that it's perception. Keep the input coming!
Glenn said on 20/Mar/06
Amen to that.frank can never be wrong.I admit I can be. Frank can come off very arrogant too.hopefull im not percieved that way.celebs 16 years ago are taller or smaller than I remembered.another great point of Frank not being Frank insightful and entertaining to the site? of course.Im sure he had experienced and witnessed things we can only dream of.I just cant stand people who always think they are right.of course I might adament about certain celebs too,so I see franks insistance as well, being innocent and precise in certain cases.
Frank2 said on 19/Mar/06
Tell you what, you believe what you want to believe and I'll believe what I wish to believe. Speaking of Moe, a friend of mine, an older man who worked for publicity for TWA had his picture taken with Moe, Larry and Joe Besser who was a Stooge briefly after Shemp died. My friend is about 5'9" and all of the Stooges come up to his chin in that photo. I've posted dozens of photos, not just one or two. Did you look at the one with Mischa Auer standing next to L & H? He was 6'3" and towered over Stan and was at least three inches taller than Ollie. I've seen the film and that's how it looks in the movie. Why do you so easily believe all the hype from Hollywood? I've worked there for my entire career and just about 75% of it is pure BS. Of course making visual estimates is not an exact science, but in my case having always been cognizant of such mindless trivia I feel it makes me a little more to be believed. But accept what you will, after all it's a free country.
Frank2 said on 19/Mar/06
Bud and Lou made a film for my dad. I have many photos of them with him on the set and Bud is shorter than my 5' 9-1/2" father by at least an inch and a half. Lou is considerably shorter. Next time you watch Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein take a look at just how short both of them are next to 6'2" Lon Cheney Jr or 6'1" Bela Lugosi. And I believe by that film Lugosi had shrunk by an inch or two since he was at least a couple of inches shorter than Lon. And he still towered over Bud and Lou. Lou Costello was an avid live steamer and like Walt Disney he also ran trains around the backyard of his San Fernando Valley home. I used to know his daughter Chris quite well. Remember the following rule: When an actor is listed as 5'10" he's most likely 5'8". If he's listed as 6' he's probably no more than 5'10" There are exceptions to the rule. Ty Power was listed as being 5'10" and I believe that was accurate. Montgomery Clift was also listed at 5'10" and that was correct. Later he shrank by about two inches. And as most know, Clift suffered a terrible car accident back during the filming of Raintree County and was in the hospital for quite some time. They thought at one point he'd be so disfigured that he'd have to be replaced, but he recovered thanks to some luck as well as plastic surgery and was back on the set filming his scenes. A game some people like to play is trying to guess which scenes were shot before and then after the car accident. I can easily tell myself. How about you? Oh, and take a look at how much 5'10" Clift is next to 5'7" Frank Sinatra or how short Sinatra is next to 5'11" Ernest Borgnine in From Here to Eternity. Frank was 5'7". End of argument.
Paul said on 19/Mar/06
Frank, you lose creditability with your rather obsessive insistance that you alone are correct and everyone else is wrong. I believe that you worked in the industry; that's not the issue. However, did you carry a tape measure all these years when you saw these people and measure them barefoot? Did you keep a journal over the past 50/60 years of the heights of the people you and your parents met? Of course not. Visual estimation is not an exact science especially if you're separated from the person by several feet.

Moe Howard in his autobiography said he was 5'4". You say he's 5'3" so we're supposed to believe you? If Moe was going to lie, wouldn't he have said 5'6" or so? James Neibaur, who worked with Jerry Lewis in the early 1990s on a book, said he was a 6 footer at the time. What is his incentive to lie? A photograph of Laurel and Disney showing them within an inch or so of each other is posted and all of a sudden you have two other photos that show a dramatic difference.

Bottom line: in judging heights, some flexibility is needed. I might look at a co-worker and think he is 5'11" but someone else might say 6'0". Does that mean I'm right? Nope, it's just my best guestimate.

Frank2 said on 19/Mar/06
This is info on the Stutz that Elvis once owned: Click Here
(A little known fact is that once a celeb is seated they're mostly all the same height!)
Mr. R said on 18/Mar/06
I believe that the shoemaker's name is Fabrizio DiPasquale, or something close. He made most of the shoes with lifts in them for the stars.
Mr. R said on 18/Mar/06
Dean Martin was the first customer of the Italian man who made the elevator shoes for the stars.
Frank2 said on 18/Mar/06
I have a photo of Stan and Ollie with Walt Disney who was definitely 5'10" and Stan is considerably shorter and Ollie is about an inch and a half taller. I have several photos of Stan with other actors, actors who are supposedly at least 5'10" such as Don Ameche and Stan is shorter. He was shorter than 5'10" English actor Reginald Gardiner in Flying Dueces. Babe was about two inches taller than Gardiner. My mom did some radio with L & H and remembers Stan not being very tall. I know people who are members of The Sons of the Desert and I've been to a couple of meetings where this was discussed. There were members who felt as I do that Stan was shorter than advertised and others who disagreed. You have to face the fact that Hollywood always adds inches to its stars. They did it going back to the silent days and they still do it today. Here's an interesting fact. In casting roles for TV, casting agents tend to get tall actors for the parts. I used to see casting calls a lot at Fox and most of the men where well-over six feet. And look at all the tall actresses today. Many are 5'10" or more. So when short stars like Stallone or Gibson or Keaton or Nicholson or Cruise have their official heights listed, Hollywood adds up to several inches. As for the Stutz, there was atime when I could have bought one for a song. Back in the eighties they weren't going for that much. I went and looked at one in Beverly Hills that was in great shape and I could have bought it for $10,000, but many people I knew said if I did it would make me look like a pimp so I passed.
Paul said on 18/Mar/06
Thanks for the comments on Cesar Romero Frank. Several years ago I had a chance to talk to Mike Reagan (Ron's son) and somehow Romero came up. It turns out that he was a family friend of the Reagans and attended Mike's birthday parties as a child. Mike thought the world of him.

I must respectfully disagree on your L&H heights though. Having read about and researched them for years, I've noted that most sources (including those who met them) consistently cite Stan at 5'9" and Babe at 6'0" to 6'1". It's possible that by the time they reached their 60s they lost some height. I still get a kick out of the fact that Laurel was taller than Bud Abbott (who was always described as "tall" in the A&C movies). I guess when your partner is 5'3" or so even a 5'8" guy looks tall.
sf said on 17/Mar/06
Frank2 - I seem to remember Sammy also having a gold-plated car. Am I remembering right?
Frank2 said on 17/Mar/06
This car once belonged to Sammy Davis Jr.: Click Here
Frank said on 17/Mar/06
Not to beat a dead horse, but I'm watching Dean right now in The Wrecking Crew (awful movie) and he's wearing boots with obvious two-inch heels. Even then he appears at least five inches shorter than 6'3" Nigel Green. dean comes up to Nigel's eye level. In another trashy Matt Helm movie The Ambushers, Dean is at least two inches shorter than nearly 6' tall James Gregory and several inches shorter than 6'2" Albert Salmi and 6'2" Roy Jenson. And in the film Kiss Me Stupid, Dean appears to be only about two inches taller than 5'8" Ray Walston. In that film he doesn't seem to be wearing lifts.
Frank2 said on 16/Mar/06
The 5'10" height regarding Danny Thomas comes from me knowing him and being around him since I was a wee little kid. I even visited his home up in Beverly Hills. He lived at the end of Hillcrest Drive in what looked like a mosque. Danny was a real character. He had a custom car with a dashboard made out of a solid slab of marble! On it was a gold plate stating the car was made especially for him by George Barris. His license plate was JAKE. His real sirname was Jahoob which is Jacob when translated from Arabic. As you can see in the photo, Jerry Lewis is the same height as Dannny. I was an inch taller than both men. The last time I saw Danny which was about eight years before he died he had shrunk by a couple of inches. And I have no idea what you mean regarding Cesar Romero. If Lawford was a solid six footer then the height difference wouldn't have been as noticeable. Whisky sounds good.
Frank2 said on 16/Mar/06
Elvis did wear lifts. His boots had two inch heels. I know since I saw them! And as far as Lawford's height.....well, maybe I'm six feet and have been miss-measured all along. When people are supposed to be measure for height they aren't supposed to stretch themselves so as to gain more in height. You're supposed to just stand relaxed as straight as you can which is how I've been measured at the doctor's office. If I stretch myself I suppose I could say I'm 5'11 1/2". By the way, that's me with George Segal. It was taken at the wrap party back in 1977 for Rollercoaster. Somewhere I also have photos of me with Henry Fonda and Richark Widmark. Those are about the only photos ever taken of me standing next to celebs since I usually don't care to be photographed with them. Fonda looks to be about two inches taller than me and Widmark is about as short as Segal. Now if Segal stood up straight he'd be closer to my height. I'd say he's 5'10 1/2" at the most. But then knowing how you react you might just just I look like a six footer and that it explains why Lawford isn't just 5'11". I'm no six footer. And please explain why Lawford is three inches shorter than 6'2" Cesar Romero in Ocean's 11 and why Dean is shorter than Lawford by an inch in the same film. Boy! This is tiring!! I need a drink. think I'll go for Sinatra's favorite - Jack Daniels. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm...goooood stuff!
Frank2 said on 16/Mar/06
Sammy was 5'3". And he did wear lifts!
Frank2 said on 15/Mar/06
Good photos Rob! Yep! Dino isn't wearing his usual lifts in that shot with Jerry. And in the photo from Sergeants Three you can clearly see that Lawford is taller than Dean. When Lawford appeared on Dean's TV show he was taller by at leat an inch. I met Lawford on at leats two seperate occasions and both times he was exactly my height of 5'11." The last time I saw him he had lost far too much weight and looked deathly ill. Then I read that he died only a year or so later. Sad.
Frank2 said on 15/Mar/06
Gabe is a solid six footer or at least he was when he was younger. Back during Welcome Back Kotter, John Travolta was at least 6'1". That was back when he didn't weigh 250 lbs. Travolta's packed down to about 6' these days. Watching all the Martin and Lewis films I came away with the observation that even with his lifts, Dean was no taller than Jerry. Now, does that mean Jerry was actually 5'11"? Nope. I saw Jerry and he was always an inch shorter than me. And so was Dean. But Jerry didn't wear lifts when he was younger. He started wearing height-increasing shoes and boots when he got to be older and mostly when was doing his telethon. Jerry is now around 5'7". He's really lost a lot of height. So did Dean. I remember seeing him one day in Beverly Hills walking by and he looked about 5'9". Jerry had a serious back condition caused by so many prat falls he took on stage. He was in constant pain and ended up addicted to the prescription pain killer Percodan. Fortunately he got off the drug. Then he also suffered from a bad heart and ended up having a quadruple bypass operation. It's amazing with all his health problems that he's still with us. Recently Jerry has become much more humble. I watched him on Larry King Live and was really impressed by his comments on life and things in general. And he always praises Dean. He claims that without Dean he'd have never become the big star that he was.
Frank2 said on 15/Mar/06
Tiger, you see the shot taken of Dean next to Danny Kaye? Well, Kaye was my height. When I met Dean he looked to be about an inch shorter just as he does next to Danny. And trying to explain away all these photos I'm posted is giving me a good laugh. I mean it's down to the minutia. Anyway, it's fun just the same.
sf said on 15/Mar/06
Love this Dean Martin fight... Frank, I'm siding with you on this one, too. Again, cause you just have to much experience. One thing I will say, is that I've found that so many people just can't judge height and also see what they want to see. If they want to see someone as shorter they do; if they want to see someone as taller, they do. I take all of these "sightings" with a grain of salt, so I can see Martin at 5'10" give or take.

The real question, is what is Jimmy Stewart doing singing?
Frank2 said on 13/Mar/06
I'm not saying that Dean was 5'9". That was just what a friend said. Berle was 5'10" when he was young which back then was relatively tall for a comedian. He was never 5'11". NEVER!! And I wish I had attended the Dean Martin Celebrity Roasts. They looked like they'd have been fun. I did watch the Tonight Show a couple of times standing in the wings. They'd tape it around 4PM at NBC's Burbank studio. I saw Johnny and even briefly spoke with him. I knew Perry Massey who was an exec there and he got me in. I didn't want to sit out in front since I get bored with this stuff and like to leave. When you've been around it as long as I have it's no longer that fun. But the roasts would have been fun since Dino had a lot of funny people on them and what was said that got edited out was absolutely hilarious.
Frank2 said on 13/Mar/06
Trust me. Benny was 5'7". My mom worked with him I radio and I met him on several occasions. Janssen I only saw one time at a party for The Motion Picture Mothers Club and he was taller than me and at that time I was already my adult height of 5'11". By the way, I spoke with an old friend who met Dean at NBC and he believes Dean wasn't even 5'10"! He said that Dean was 5'9", wore lifts to boost himself up to Jerry's 5'10"! Go figure! I believe Dean and Jerry were about the same height.

If Jerry was 5'11" then why does he appear three inches shorter than Fred Clark (6'1") in Visit to a Small Planet and two inches shorter than Earl Holliman (6') in the same film? Also, If Jerry was 5'11" as you still believe then why does he appear the same height as Milton Berle in The Bellboy? Berle was no more than 5'10". Later he shrunk to 5'7". The last time I saw Uncle Miltie was at a benefit held at the TV Academy back in the early 1990's and he was a lot shorter than me. His wife Lorna towered over him. She's my height! Tall woman! Lorna was a wealthy woman who owned a dress comapny who lived in the Shoreham Towers above the Sunset Strip. At one time she lived next door to a friend of mine. Berle met her after his wife died and eventually they were married. I saw them several times along with my friend Mike.

Oh, I forgot! I was at a charity event in Brentwood many years ago and just about everyone was there celeb-wise. Kirk Douglas was there as well as Benny, Danny Kaye with his wife Sylvia, Milton Berle, Phil Silvers, and a host of the famous. I was talking with Danny Kaye who by the way was taller than people think (he was my height or 5'11) when Lewis came up. Jerry was slightly shorter than the two of us. Kaye was very shy while Jerry was a clown. Benny was also very shy. Oh, and George Burns was there and he looked to be about 5'6". He was shorter than Benny. I could look over his head. Later in his old age Burns shrunk to under 5'4". He was so tiny the last time I saw him that I was somewhat amazed. David Janssen was a very nice person. His only problem was he drank and smoked far too much. His heart just gave out when he was only 49. I was so upset when I heard about it that actually I cried. I only did that one other time for a celeb and that's when I learned Jack Webb has passed away. I had worked with him closely and gotten to know him pretty well. He was a wonderful person. He had the same hobby as me which was we both collected expensive stereo equipment. I knew his two daughters, Stacey and Lisa. Stacey was later killed tragically in a car accident. Lisa had issues with her dad and stopped speaking with him. After Jack died she wished she had gotten the opportunity to just talk with him one more time. The moral of that story is if any of you have issues with a parent and are not speaking to them, try to imagine them gone. Then take the opportunity before it's lost forever and contact them.
Frank2 said on 12/Mar/06
If you actually believe that Martin and Holliman have on the same boots and are the same height then I think you need glasses. As far as Dean with Phil Harris, I watched the two standing next to each other on a clip and Harris was taller! All you do is to dismiss anything I write which tells me you really have nothing else to put on the table. You seem to believe what's officially written about everybody and that's that. End of conversion. You're truly a press agent's dream come true! Like I said, I met Dean several times and he was shorter than me on every single occasion. So was Carson. You can call me a liar...I really don't care. What I do care about is knowing the facts. I'm a stickler for facts. Raymond Burr was 6'1" and when he stood next to Dean he was at least three inches taller. You haven't explained why David Jansson was taller by at least two inches. His official height lists him as 6'. I met Jansson and he was an inch taller than me so for a change it's true. Nor have you correctly explained why if Dean was 6' tall that he's quite short next to 6'1" Bob Mitchum. And as far as Dean coming up to the Duke's eye level in that photo of them cooking, well, yeah! The Duke is bending over to taste whatever he's cooking. Just look at the shoulder height difference! And in the shot from Rio Bravo, Dean comes up to Wayne's chin which is just how it looks in the film in all the long shots. And Dean isn't slouching, but walking which he is in that shot. This is really getting monotonous.
Frank2 said on 11/Mar/06
Please explain why 6 foot-tall David Jansson appeared two inches taller than Dean on his TV show guest appearance. I'm watching it right now on this TV commercial for DVD's of the show and there's no doubt that Jansson is the taller of the two. And why in the film Five Card Stud is Dean shorter than Mitchum by at least three inches? If Dean was six feet tall as everyone seems to believe, why was he considerably shorter than Larry Gates (6'1") and Ralph Meeker (6'1") in the film Ada? If Dean was 6' then why was he the same height as Cliff Robertson in the film All in a Night's Work? I knew and worked with Cliff and he's 5'10". Robertson is exactly one inch shorter than 5'11" Bill Holden in Picnic. Robertson was the same height as Robert Redford in Three Days of the Condor. I've met Redford and he's 5'10". If Dean was 6' then why was he shorter than 5'11 & 1/2" Mike Kellin in At War With the Army? So was Jerry by an inch and a half. If Dean was 6' then why was he not taller than 5'11" Dom DeLuise? If Dean was 6' tall then why did he look like a shrimp next to 6'1" Raymond Burr in You're Never Too Young? Burr appeared to be three inches taller than both Martin and Lewis and Dean had on his lifts. I saw Burr all the time when I worked at Universal and he was 6'1" (he was also 300+ lbs!). Maybe Dean wasn't even 5'10" like I thought, but shorter! Right now this same commercial shows Lucille Ball standing next to him and she wearing what looks like three-inch heels and she's slightly taller! And Lucy was exactly 5'6". I saw her many times.
Frank2 said on 11/Mar/06
At the following site scrowl down and you'll see a shot of Dino standing next to 6' Earl Holliman. It's clear that Dean's wearing height-increasing cowboy boots and is still shorter by at least an inch. Holliman's wearing regular boots. I see Earl all the time at a local restaurant. Next time I'll ask him just how tall Dean was. And Earl is still 6' tall. Click Here
Frank2 said on 11/Mar/06
A TV station is now running a commercial selling DVD's of the old Dean Martin TV Show. I just noticed the following: Dean is the same height at Phil Silvers. Silvers was 5'10". I know since I met him on two occasions. Michael Landon is Dean's height. That one threw me since landon was kind of short (around 5'9" max) so I figured he wore cowboy boots with big heels. I couldn't see his feet. But then Dino had on his usual lifts that boosted him by at least two inches....oh well. In another bit, Dino is with Jimmy Stewart. And it's clear that Stewart is at least five inches taller. In fact Dino comes up to his eye level. In another brief segment Johnny Carson comes on and is almost Dino height. Johnny might be half an inch shorter. Zero Mostel is Dinos height and he was 5'10". Orson Welles appears at least two inches taller. I worked with Orson and he was slightly taller than my height by the late sixties. Frank Sinatra is three inches shorter. Gene Kelly who was 5'7" appears three inches shorter than Dean. John Wayne towers over Dino by at leats five inches. Jack Benny appears to be two to three inches shorter. Benny was 5'7". 6' 1" Robert Mitchum is three inches taller than Dino. So what more do I have to do to convince you? Dig him up and measure him?
Frank2 said on 11/Mar/06
Jim Aubrey was an exec. He was once head of CBS and was fired after supposedly getting involved with a prostitute. I think it had more to do with the fact that many of CBS's TV shows were failing to get good ratings and nobody liked Aubrey. He could be a monster. Jacqueline Susann based her book The Love Machine on Aubrey. Jim was once married to actress Phyllis Thaxter and they had a daughter named Skye who became an actress for a brief time. Later, Aubrey was hired by MGM owner Kirk Kirkorian to help destroy the studio so Kirk could dump it. One day Aubrey had all of the new MGM releases sent out with missing reels! The sabotage was incredible. Some of it I knew about when I worked there. A lot more I learned about later after Aubrey died and people who worked for him that I knew began to talk. Aubrey waged a running battle with many directors. One of them was Sam Peckinpah. One day Aubrey had so pissed off Sam by something he said on the phone that the feisty little director picked up his desk telephone (those were the days when phones were heavy!) yanked it from the wall and threw it out a closed window from his second story office. Walking below was director James Goldstone who I knew and worked with on several projects including Rollercoaster and Swashbuckler. The heavy phone missed Goldstone by inches. Goldstone had glass shower down on his head. When Goldstone ran upstairs to find out just what happened he discovered that Peckinpah had exited another door and was storming up to the Thalberg building were Aubrey had his office. As far as Elvis only looking an inch have to be kidding! I saw Aubrey with Elvis and believe me, Aubrey was at least two inches taller, perhaps two and a half. And the day they shot that photo, Elvis wore his boots with three-inch lifts. And Tiger, Carson was just under 5'10".
Frank2 said on 10/Mar/06
In the film Jumping Jacks, Dino and Jerry are considerably shorter than Don DeFore who was just over 6'1". DeFore was a close family friend and I know exactly how tall he was. I saw him for the last time at the Hambuger Hamlet restaurant in Culver City shortly before he died. He was still tall. Defore did a play with my mom shortly before she married my dad.
Frank2 said on 10/Mar/06
Check out Dino and Jerry with 6'1" Burt Lancaster. And don't tell me Burt wore lifts! Click Here
And check out Jerry Lewis with 5'7" Jack Benny at: Click Here No way is Jerry six feet tall!
Frank2 said on 9/Mar/06
Why would on earth would they ever take a swing at me? And if you mean I stand up for my beliefs, yes, I'm always this way.
Cynna said on 9/Mar/06
I am a newcomer to this website. Is Frank2 always like this? Has he really met all these celebrities? Has any of them ever taken a swing at him? Have other people? Just wondering.
Frank2 said on 8/Mar/06
I'm so sorry I disappointed you. I just gave you an example of Jerry Lewis being 5'10" and you dismiss it and say you're disappointed. He was three inches shorter than Fred Clark in that film! Take a look at Lawford next to 6'2" Cesar Romero in Ocean's Eleven and then tell me he was over six feet tall. He looks rather short next to Cesar, at least by three inches. And in the same film Cesar looks short next to Robert Foulk (the sheriff) who was around six five! In the film The Bellboy, Jerry Lewis is roughly the same height as Milton Berle and don't tell me that Berle was six feet because he was 5'10" in his prime. I met him several times over the years. A friend of mine was good friends with his last wife Lorna who was taller than Berle. We even all went to dinner one night! Uncle Miltie shrunk to about 5'8" when he got older. The last time I saw Lewis he was wearing boots with huge heels and he still wasn't as tall as me.
Frank2 said on 8/Mar/06
Yep! I've always been conscious of an actor's height. Lawford was my height, maybe a half an inch taller. And I don't have to show you anything pal. And Jerry was never six feet! Take alook at him in the film Visit to a Small Planet. He's obviosly three inches shorter than 6'1" Fred Clark! And he's two inches shorter than Earl Holliman who's an even six feet. And as far as what I'm looking at regarding Rio Bravo, it's a tape I made off the satellite. And Dino comes up to the Duke's chin! So there!
Frank2 said on 7/Mar/06
I don't care what you say, Dino was shorter than Peter Lawford in Ocean's Eleven. Some have listed Lawford at six-one, but he was about five-eleven. maybe another half an inch taller. I met him once back in the late 1960's at a benefit for raising money for Democrats. He was about my height. Look at him next to six foot two Cesar Romero in that film and he's considerably shorter. Lawford was quite thin and that made him appear taller. Trust me. Dino was only five foot ten max and not and inch taller. The shot of Martin and Lewis clearly shows Dean's wearing lifts. And as far as how short Dean looks next to the Duke in Rio Bravo....well, I'm playing it as I type away here and in every scenes he's at least seven to eight inches shorter in all the longshots. And Ricky Nelson was five eleven, not six-one. I knew him and saw him for God sakes!
Glenn said on 7/Mar/06
I believe you friends saw that.
Frank2 said on 7/Mar/06
Dino four inches shorter than the Duke? What are you smoking? In Rio Bravo Dino came up to Waynes chin! And don't start with the old BS that the Duke wore lifts. Mitchum said that as a joke. I know since he admitted it to a friend of mine. In that same film you'll see that Walter Brennan is taller than Dino and Brennan was under six feet. Ricky Nelson was taller than Dino and I knew him, saw him often and he was also under six feet. Ricky was about five eleven.
Frank2 said on 6/Mar/06
I could care less what anyone says. I was at NBC, stood right next to Dino and he was no taller than five-ten. He wore obvious lifts and even with his lifts he was my height and I'm just a tad under 5'11". This is like what people have said about Johnny Carson. They claim he was six feet or at the very least 5'11 & 1/2". In real life he was just under 5'10". Even the bronze statue of him outside the TV Academy headquarters shows him at just under 5'10". Go to the following webpage: and then check out a couple of shots of Dino. One has him standing next to Gordon MacRae who was exactly 5'8". Dino is about two inches taller. Just to the right of it is a shot of Dino with his shoe off and his stocking foot in Paul Lynde's hand. It's clear his shoes are custom elevators. Then there's a shot with Fess Parker on the left and Dino is almost a head shorter! Next go to this site:
There if you scrowl down you'll see a shot taken from The Sons of Katie Elder. Dino is obviously shorter than Earl Holliman and I know Earl is exactly six feet! I see him every once and a while at a local Thai restaurant. finally check out: and see how short Dino is next to Jack Jones who's 6'1". Come on people! Enough's enough. I was there! I saw many of these people in the flesh. Trust me. Or just go on believing what you want to believe.
Cynna said on 6/Mar/06
Dean's son Ricci described his dad as 6 feet tall. Dean's daughter Deana described him as 6 feet tall. Dean's partner Jerry described him as 6 feet tall. Every book I've seen which mentions his height gives it as 6 feet tall. He was about 2 inches shorter than Sean McClory, who was 6 foot 2. He was about 4 inches shorter than John Wayne, who was over 6 foot 4. Where does the "under 6 foot" theory originate?
Frank2 said on 27/Feb/06
I'm closing in on 60, but feel like a 20 year old. The problem is there's never a 20 year old when you need one!
sf said on 25/Feb/06
Frank - you're old if you remember the old Dean Martin show!!
Frank2 said on 24/Feb/06
No way was Dean five feet eleven and a half. I met him as well as Jerry. Both were around five ten. Dean wore lifts almost all of the time. He even wore lifts on his TV show. Anyone remember the time when Robert Mitchum showed up as a surprise guest behind the door? He towered over Dean and Mitchum was around six foot one. Dean even commented by saying, "He makes me look like nothin'!"
Mikex said on 25/Jan/06
I heard Jerry Lewis comment once they were the exact same height at 6ft. Lewis has always looked quite gangly so I guess 6 ft is right for Martin.
Paul said on 14/Jan/06
Regarding comments that Dean only looked 3 inches taller than Sinatra. Comparisons are hard to do because of lifts. Sinatra probably had bigger lifts than Dean because he had more ground to make up.

Dean was probably 6' as a young man. By the time of his TV show and peak solo movie career, he was late 40s/early 50s so its conceivable he may have lost a half inch or so.

Rut said on 13/Jan/06
Martin was a strong five ft 11 inches tall (Barefooted)
So Mr. R is right..
Mr. R said on 12/Jan/06
Dean never seemed 4 inches taller than Sinatra, so maybe 5-11 is a better bet.
Paul said on 6/Jan/06
Stan Laurel applied the anti-lift technique in his movies with Oliver Hardy to further emphasize the size difference between the two. Hardy was slightly over 6 foot (probably around 6'1") while Laurel was 5'9". Laurel had the heels of his shoes removed to make Hardy look even bigger. This helped form Laurel's image of being the childlike one while Hardy was the assertive one. Interestingly enough, Laurel was taller than Bud Abbott (5'8") who was always described as being the "tall one" in the Abbott and Costello team.

As for Martin, he always looked 6 foot to me, but no more. John Wayne towered over him in Rio Bravo. At the same time, Martin appeared to be about the same size as Raymond Burr in a movie they did together (You're Never Too Young).

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