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Grosmont says on 19/Mar/10
Is this forum, or is it not, a discussion of GIANTS? Shortlegs says on 19/Mar/10
Just don't ask her. Some people don't feel comfortable telling their problems to other people. Coke Machine says on 17/Mar/10
Shortlegs, that lady I met in Leeds with black hair who was 6ft 6in - 6ft 7in told me her dad was 5ft 11in, her mum was 5ft 7in and her younger sister 5ft 4in. Her parents weren't short, and were slightly above average height, but weren't exceptionally tall. Her name is Ann. I don't want to get too prying by asking "How did you get to be so tall?", because she might not answer or could even tell me where to go! Shortlegs says on 16/Mar/10
Coke Machine says on 18/Feb/10
No, that woman I met in Leeds who was 6ft 6in with black hair was wearing flat shoes and I was wearing ordinary shoes, and the top of my head reached the end of her nose, and we were both stood up straight, and that was the height of her parents... she told me... I don't know if she was suffering from gigantism or not... she might have just inherited the genes of a very tall ancestor from way back.... she was at least 6ft 6in...
If her parents aren't really tall, then that lady shouldn't be that tall, though I think it's possible that she might've inherited that stature from an ancestor, but I doubt it. People usually inherit their parents heights. She could most likely have a hormonal disorder or possibly had foods that had HGH on it. Though some people don't wanna discuss their problems with others. But you can ask her, Coke Machine, if you want to, if you ever bump into her again. But not sure if she wants to talk about it. mask says on 16/Mar/10
Who the hell is this?
Click Here chris says on 16/Mar/10
worlds shortest man He Ping Ping dies in Italy a few days ago mask says on 14/Mar/10
P Theyagarjan the indian eating champion with 6'1" Dale Boone:
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Madame Zeptauer is sometimes called Fraulein Zeptauer. Boxererwhiteray says on 11/Mar/10
Mask
Yes I know and have found some interesting little snippets. Boxerwhiteray says on 11/Mar/10
Grosmont/Anyone Interested
I hear what you say "Fraulein Griselda" sounds more like German to me - but the article stated that she spoke Hungarian. There are another couple of not so well known giantesses to run past you. Mortha Tabor "Mortha The Mighty" She was Hungarian - said to be 7 ft 5 and 500 pounds. Also I have came across a few references to one Madame Zeptauer - have you heard of her - I believe I know who that is now - a well known show giantess? mask says on 10/Mar/10
Boxerwhiteray that is a site with a lot of "old new" articles like this:
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on the top right if you want all of you guys can search for "tallest man" or "tallest woman" for example and find a lot of "old" news!
Like this other one:
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help me finding! Grosmont says on 10/Mar/10
Funnily enough, Boxer, that news item seems to concern another giantess of uncertain nationality. "Fraulein Griselda" doesn't sound very Hungarian! I'm not even aware what the Hungarian word for "Fraulein" would be. Boxerwhiteray says on 9/Mar/10
Grosmont
Goodness knows how that German site knew Abomah was called Grisby. Like yourself I think Abomah would have been a show name.
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I have just come across a rather obscure giantess. Rita says on 9/Mar/10
Grosmont: The Discovery and Discovery Health channels are American and have done stories on Defen, including hospital footage when they were testing her for her tumor. Where in the GBR did Guinness say she "pulled out" of being measured? Or was that info from somewhere else? Surely the impoverished Defen knows that being in the GBR would probably bring her monetary sources and attention to her health issues, so why would she pull out? This is all speculation, of course. I found this interesting story about her fall last April ..... scroll wayyyy down to the very last comment where the story was posted by a reader: Click Here Grosmont says on 9/Mar/10
Boxer - brilliant! How odd that it should be a German source that supplies this item. I rather doubt that her first name was Abomah, though. The fashion for exotic names is a fairly recent one among black Americans. Of course it's just an assertion on that German site. How do they KNOW her name was Grigsby?
Rita, I don't think you're quite fair to Guinness. They said specifically that it was Defen herself who pulled out of arrangements for measurement. And as I've said several times before, China isn't England or France, or even Turkey. After all, at the present it isn't so very easy to enter the USA, is it? Are those TV companies British or American? I doubt it. Rita says on 8/Mar/10
Chris: I'm sure of Defen had passed on we would know about it. Other than that. no clue. Perhaps they are "searching" to see if there's someone taller than Defen claims to be, since Guinness somehow can't manage to get to measure her, even tho the companies doing TV documentaries can find her...... Boxerwhiteray says on 8/Mar/10
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Grosmont.
I have found something which says Abomah's surname was Grigsby. But still points to her being American. Anonymous says on 8/Mar/10
More on Conrad Furrows:
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I would ABSOLUTELY insist that Guinness measure whomever is claiming to be tallest, whether it's defen or someone else, just like I'd demand they weigh anyone claiming to be heaviest, or measure the person claiming the largest feet, hands, longest legs, etc.... Grosmont says on 7/Mar/10
No, Boxer, but it does open up possibilities, and we need to know what "evidence" there is for the name Grigsby. Jamie says on 7/Mar/10
Shortened life span in very tall people is multi-factorial. There is a long established link between tall stature and sensory autonomic neuropathy particularly in long limbed individuals - human axons aren't designed like those of a giraffe. Circulation tends be poorer in taller people and fatter people because there is more blood to pump. Pituitary gigantism complicates matters because very high levels of insulin-like growth factor increase the risk of developing diabetes (and therefore both nerve and circulatory damage)and in rat studies it has been demonstrated that cancerous tumours develop faster under the influence of IGF.
Pituitary gigantism and acromegaly are certainly not states I would wish on anyone; congenital tall stature is different but equally it is empirically demonstrable that stature outside of 2sds of the mean for a human population is a statistically significant risk factor (p<0.001) for a dramatically shortened life span. The human body is designed for a 'golden mean' in terms of stature - and whilst individuals will always fall outside that mean, those at the extreme edges are sufficiently rare for evolution not to have caught up. Neurons for example, are more likely to have evolved for a body of 160cm than 300cm.
I'm not trying to say people are right or wrong, but based on clinically available evidence, we would expect a pituitary linked giant like Wadlow to have a severely limited lifespan without frequent medical intervention. For 'genetic' giants (I dislike the term as it's misleading but I'll go with it) we have so few who have attained close to 8 feet it is harder to say what the evidence could tell us, except that after 186cm, lifespan decreases at an accelerating rate based on large scale population studies. Pubmed is a good place to start researching this area. Grosmont says on 6/Mar/10
Chris, your second possibility is the answer, as was made plain some time ago. In the 2010 Guinness Book of Records it was stated that attempts had been made to arrange a measurement session for Defen, but without success. They did say she was "reported" to be of world-beating height. As I've said before, we can't castigate Guinness for accepting Stadnyk's claimed height from hearsay, and then ask them to do the same with Defen. Boxerwhiteray says on 6/Mar/10
Grosmont
Yes I see that part which says Abomah's name may have been Grigsby. But that
still does not prove that she was British. Anonymous says on 5/Mar/10
What will Guinness do about Defen. Will they assume she still has feet, like they assume normal spine curvature? chris says on 5/Mar/10
Rita - to me, this says one of three things....that Defen has passed on...or that she was never confirmed by Guinness....or that they believe there is a taller woman than Defen somewhere in existence... any ideas? Grosmont says on 5/Mar/10
Boxer, on page 2 of the Quasi-Modo piece you linked, is the remark I mentioned, that there was evidence her name was Grigsby. Coke Machine says on 5/Mar/10
Britain's tallest recorded person was a woman! Anonymous says on 4/Mar/10
The genetic ones won't suffer any major health problems, but it is possible. They'll most likely have back and feet pain as they get older. Rita says on 4/Mar/10
Guinness is "searching for a new tallest woman" -- article doesn't even mention Defen. It says Sandy Allen held the record from 1976 to 2008, which is not true, because Jinliang was the tallest in '82, the year she died, then Sandy got her record back. Anyway, here's the article: Click Here Boxerwhiteray says on 4/Mar/10
Grosmont
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I wonder if you were thinking of another article. This Quasi-Modo article
near the end hints at Abomah - being from America. See also article below.
Click Here Curly says on 4/Mar/10
Grosmont - you are absolutely right. Wadlow DID suffer from extremely poor circulation because of his pathological gigantism. Bad circulation led to neuropathy, which led to his inability to notice minor injuries to his feet and lower legs, which ultimately led to the infection which killed him at a pathetically early age. You will get no argument from me on that point. However, I consider that Wadlow's death was due to a side effect of his overall pathological condition...in this case, neuropathy...and not simply because he was too tall. Many genetic giants (who, I admit, almost never grow beyond 7' 4") enjoy robust health and do not suffer from neuropathy or poor circulation.
Anonymous - I'd be eager to discover the source of your data that suggests that tall persons are at higher risk for cancer due to an excess of hormone. If this is true, then this applies to pituitary giants and not genetic giants, whose hormone levels are normal.
Sorry to be so damned pedantic on this subject. Thanks for putting up with my rant! Anonymous says on 3/Mar/10
Medical research has shown that taller people are at higher risk to get cancers cause they have too much hormones and they're also more prone to have hip/bone fracture cause they're more fragile. So being tall isn't always great, only few are lucky to live longer, but I think it's better to be short/average than to be tall. Wes Hoylake says on 3/Mar/10
Amaleen Baker was probably tallest woman in the US at one time. Known as Miss Long Legs and The Tall Gal. She was 7'1 and 350 and wore size 21 shoes. A sister called Arlene was 6'7. Grosmont says on 3/Mar/10
Curly - the tallest of the lot, Wadlow, did in fact die as a result of his stature, surely. Poor circulation - no feeling in feet - couldn't feel blister - blister infected - blood poisoning. If this is not correct, then what did cause the poor circulation?
Boxer, the Quasi-Modo website says there is good evidence Abomah's name was (I think) Grigsby, which does sound British, but unfortunately it doesn't say what the evidence is. Curly says on 2/Mar/10
On March 1, Anonymous wrote, "The blood has to work hard to flow through a larger system is what I meant. I don't see taller people living to be like in their 60s or 70s, which is sad." There ARE tall persons who have lived well into there 60s or 70s (even their 80s) because they a.) were genetically tall (Martin V. B. Bates, Anthony Payne, Paul Herold, etc...) or b.) were pathological giants who reaped the benefits of medical intervention at a relatively early age (Henry Mullins, Johann Petursson, Cecil Boling, etc...) The reason pituitary giants tend to experience short lives has little to do with their stature (excepting the effects of spinal curvature, which can cause numerous health issues). The short life span is due to the health problems arising from the pathological endocrine condition from which a pituitary giant suffers. I have heard this over simplified "their hearts just can't keep up with their growing bodies" explanation far too often. Sounds like a logical reason, but it just isn't the case! Boxerwhiteray says on 2/Mar/10
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There has been some dispute in the past about whether Mme Abomah was American or British. Whilst by no means conclusive - this article suggests that she was American. Grosmont says on 2/Mar/10
Anonymous, you're still wrong. As I said, the blood doesn't "work". How could it? The heart pumps the blood. Jeez! Lowdowner says on 1/Mar/10
Okay, Anonymous, which eminent vascular surgeon are you really? Don`t be afraid to own up - your secret will be safe with the rest of us anonyms. Chaz says on 1/Mar/10
Where is the rest of the Video of Charbib being measured,that part is just a mock up,in the first part you see him being measured in Tunisia,at an Hotel first thing right out of bed,and in the morning they say he 236.8cm,this bit with Greener is weeks after,they allready know his height,they are just doing it for the TV show. Anonymous says on 1/Mar/10
Grosmont says on 28/Feb/10
anonymous - so the blood has to work harder? Funny, I thought the heart did the pumping.
Sorry, made a mistake. The blood has to work hard to flow through a larger system is what I meant. I don't see taller people living to be like in their 60s or 70s, which is sad. Grosmont says on 28/Feb/10
anonymous - so the blood has to work harder? Funny, I thought the heart did the pumping. Smokey says on 28/Feb/10
I thought Chris Greener looked marginally taller than Sandy Allen. Nippu says on 28/Feb/10
I think Greener thas about same height. And that was not offical measurement(hopefully). I´ll give Charbib Max 7´9 at his best with straight neck... Anonymous says on 28/Feb/10
I heard that growing to 7 foot and over is not natural or healthy. Besides taller people do die faster cause the blood does have to work hard pumping through a larger system. mask says on 27/Feb/10
Yo guys looking at the video of 1999 Radhouane Charbib official guinness measurement made by Chris Greener you can see that he was 7'8.9/10" tall in shoes probably afternoon and you can notice also he already had hunchback that stole him a couple of inches I guess! According to me his average height was yes almost 7'9" but with straight back he could have very well been about 7'10" because if you consider that he had a standing height of about 7'7.5" with shoes off and you add 2 inches hunchback you find he was 7'9.5"!I'm trying to say that he could have been really the tallest man in that period! By the way a brief period as he is getting shorter losing 4 inches in the last 10 years! 177cmmm says on 26/Feb/10
no this guy should be downgraded to 8ft 10 3/4s :) Rita says on 25/Feb/10
Anonymous, wrong again. I contribute to this forum. Not as much as the others, but I DO contribute AND I use my own name! Boxerwhiteray says on 25/Feb/10
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Jack Earle asks Robert Wadlow "whats the weather like up there" Anonymous says on 24/Feb/10
There are in fact only 4 people that contribute to this forum - Anonymous, Ray White (and his 20 aliases), Mask and Johnny C. Boxerwhiteray says on 24/Feb/10
Editor Rob
Sometimes I have used other names for some postings - when I did not want to
use my own handle or use the rather faceless "Anonymous". But I am not in the habit of using another bloggers moniker. Thank You.
[Editor Rob: but you used about 20 different names, it annoys people when you do that!] Coke Machine says on 24/Feb/10
Marvadene is almost 6'11 and she will be 17 in May so she might just touch 7 foot. Coke Machine says on 23/Feb/10
If you call 7ft a giant.. then I have never seen a woman that tall... so I have never seen a female giant... but I have seen some very tall women in my life... about 6'8 is the tallest I have seen in a woman and 7'4 in a man. chris says on 23/Feb/10
Gally - what you're probably thinking of is the "Cadbury Giantess", who was Jane "Ginny" Bunford... Lowdowner says on 23/Feb/10
The kind words attributed to me today are actually from someone else who seems rather upset at my attempt to stimulate debate. Sorry if I struck a raw nerve whoever you are.
[Editor Rob: boxerwhiteray has used a bunch of names.
Those who lie about their own height I usually find to be habitual liers about a multitude of other things and are real dodgy untrustworthy individuals!...and those who use different names are just as pathetic individuals.
a few clicks of the mouse removes comments from anybody though.] chris says on 23/Feb/10
to Lowdowner..... yes, there are many "up and coming" tall women all over the world, but very few will reach 7 foot in my estimation... the Britney Griners and Marvadene Andersons will remain quite rare indeed. There are only 2 confirmed 7 foot women now, and one is very ill from her condition..... Marvadene might make it.... Coke Machine says on 22/Feb/10
In fact, I can tell you the date when I saw her and where we got chatting. It was in WH Smiths on the afternoon of 4th March 1999, as I had got a job interview. We were in the far corner of the store and I started to make a conversation with her whilst stood up straight. She was and I noticed the top of my head was level with the end of her nose and I am six foot. She might have even been taller than 6'6. I had two inch shoes on and she had 1 inch flat shoes on. I last saw her walking about in Leeds about late 2006. Grosmont says on 22/Feb/10
I'd have thought most people would consider this message board to be concerned with giants. A woman of six feet six or so, is bloody tall, and she no doubt makes a lot of you guys hot and bothered, but she's not a giant. Anonymous says on 22/Feb/10
Besides klem, I'm not saying that the stuff is true but it is possible. Taller people are more fragile and many of them don't live to be like in their sixties or seventies or could be that they shrink cause of aging. chris says on 22/Feb/10
Re: height estimating.... in my experience, unless one is really skilled at such things, it's very likely that one will overestimate the actual height of a tall person. I have tall friends who are always being approached by strangers, some of whom will guess i.e. "what are you, 6 ft 10?" and the guesses are almost always wrong and always on the high end, sometimes by 5-6 inches !! So, a person you might think is 7 feet tall is really 6 ft 8 or so....
Also, some tall people (and non-talls as well) over-state their own height or just don't want to believe their not X tall i.e. Chris Lister, who swore he was 7 ft 4 when he was in actually quite a bit under 7 foot by dr measurement. So, someone who says they're 7 feet tall is quite likely 6 ft 11, 10 or even less, because (a) they want to be 7 feet tall, it's a nice round number, and it's way tall, and (b) they know people won't be able to argue with them, because, as I stated before, if they say 6 ft 9, 10, 11 or 7 ft, they will be believed...
just my two cents from decades of dealing with tall men and women.... Grosmont says on 22/Feb/10
H-Ply - you heard that, did you? Where, may one ask? Have you ever watched the video footage of the mature Wadlow? Walking was such a task he'd hardly have made himself more unstable by wearing built-up shoes, besides which he hated being a giant and certainly had no interest in exaggerating his height. Furthermore, even if your silly rumour were true, it wouldn't discredit the medical measurement taken before he died. Micrometer says on 21/Feb/10
I don't know if the people down below who are claiming to seen very tall people did really see 'em or maybe they're just exaggerating or just turning short people down. Lowdowner says on 21/Feb/10
This site seems to be drying up. Guys, please stop the small talk about "tall" Uk women. They would not atract a second glance in Eastern European countries like Latvia, Lithuania or Slovakia. Get real. Many 7ft plus women are on the way. Just wait for the 2012 Olympics in London when you`ll have a field day! If you are too impatient, try visiting the Balkan States or Germany and Austria or even South Africa and you`ll be amazed at the heights of `everday` women. mask says on 20/Feb/10
Tall Paul Sturgess very interesting:
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Anonymous you do realize how dumb you sound? You are generalizing and probably don't even know a **** about Europe. H-Ply says on 18/Feb/10
I heard that Wadlow wore specially made built up shoes, that made him appear taller. Wavey says on 18/Feb/10
During 1967 we had a vacation in Laguna Beach in California. My Uncle Hector was there, he was 6'7" and a good 245, and wore size 13 shoes. We saw a woman there, who was much taller, heavier and had much bigger shoes. I wonder who, she was. She was caucasian and probably in her forties, with light colored hair. Coke Machine says on 18/Feb/10
No, that woman I met in Leeds who was 6ft 6in with black hair was wearing flat shoes and I was wearing ordinary shoes, and the top of my head reached the end of her nose, and we were both stood up straight, and that was the height of her parents... she told me... I don't know if she was suffering from gigantism or not... she might have just inherited the genes of a very tall ancestor from way back.... she was at least 6ft 6in... Anonymous says on 18/Feb/10
Coke Machine says on 21/Jan/10
Tyke - I got talking to the woman with dark hair in WH Smith's in Leeds in 1999, so it is 11 years ago now. We were both stood upright, and the top of my head reached the tip of her nose. I am exactly 6ft tall.
Coke Machine says on 22/Jan/10
The woman with dark hair in Leeds said that her dad was 5ft 11in, her mum was 5ft 7in, her younger sister was 5ft 4in. However, disappointingly, her shoe size was only a 8...
Either that lady must've been wearing high heels or maybe she's suffering from gigantism or something since her family aren't really tall.
Alegzhandurr says on 23/Jan/10
I saw a woman in Derby, shortly before Christmas, who was a lot more than six foot six. This woman was middle aged, with longe blonde hair and was well proportioned.
Actually taller people are dis-proportioned. I've seen them and they look bleh. Maybe that lady must've been wearing really high heels or possibly had leg or limb lengthening surgery.
I heard Europeans and possibly other countries feed on HGH to grow taller, which is artificially not a good idea, it's all about dominance. It is said that taller people die faster cause the blood has to work hard to pump through a larger system and they become more vulnerable to get cancers. I highly doubt that taller people out there will live long. Grosmont says on 16/Feb/10
Mask, the Chinese giant, with the girl standing on a chair, is Yu-Qing Liu (c1888-1939). Curly says on 15/Feb/10
Bunford's skeleton actually had a mounted height of 7' 4", not 7' 7". I'm not sure where Geant got the 7' 7" figure from, but the 7' 4" figure comes directly from Guinness. Of course, Guinness has made errors in the past, so who knows? The Tallest Man says on 15/Feb/10
Geant: The mounted height of Jane Bunford's skeleton was 'only' 7'4".
The 1971 edition of the English version of the Guinness Book of Records states:
"Skeleton has a mounted height of 7 feet 4 inches but she had a severe curvature indicating a height of c. 7 feet 9 inches when alive. A note on page 304 said "The most recent research into the identity of the Northfield giantess indicates that she died in 1922".
Jane Bunford was also measured in March 1922 (only a few weeks before her death) at 7'7". Estimated height (with normal spinal curvature) 7'11"
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Why do you think we should add 5.5 inches to correct for her spinal curvature? Were did you get that information from? Grosmont says on 15/Feb/10
GEANT, you seem to be confusing two calculations: living height with assumed straight spine, and living height compared with prepared skeleton. In a modern preparation such as this, the skeleton would probably be much closer to the living person's height than it would in the case of someone from the days when vertebrae were missing from the skeleton. How do you arrive at that 5.5 inches? GEANT says on 14/Feb/10
SOME CLARIFICATION ON BUNFORD SKELETON. THE MOUNTED HEIGHT IS - OR WAS - 7 FT 7 IN. THIS INDICATES A "LIVING HEIGHT" OF 7 FT 11 IN (ASSUMING NORMAL CURVATURE OF THE SPINE). TO ASSUME 4 INCHES IS NOT RIGHT. THAT IS TYPICAL OF NORMAL HEIGHT PEOPLE. IN HER CASE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 5.5 INCHES, PUTTING HER AT 8 FT 0.5 IN TALL. Coke Machine says on 14/Feb/10
Jane Bunford peak standing height was 7ft 10in and she would have measured 7ft 11in at the time of her time but had a spinal curvature which reduced her height to 7ft 7in. She is the tallest recorded person to ever have lived in the UK - male or female. Grosmont says on 13/Feb/10
No, anonymous, we are not all fetishists here, in the sense I meant (as you well know). I can safely say that when I and most others discuss giants, we are not thinking of them in the same way as those who post rather pointless anecdotes about some tall woman they saw in the street. We are not "turned on". Interest is not the same thing as fetishism. Some years ago I saw a man in a London supermarket who could well have been 7 feet tall, but since I haven't the least idea who he was, and never saw him again, I don't think it's worth telling people about it. Grosmont says on 13/Feb/10
Anonymous - wasn't the skeleton evidence? Come to think of it, there's something funny about "Anonymous" demanding evidence of someone's existence! Anonymous says on 13/Feb/10
Hey Grosmont, this message board has always been a meeting place for fetishists. Think about it. Jellymonster says on 12/Feb/10
Why do you call her a bird? That's not nice, Masher Jam Anonymous says on 12/Feb/10
Is there any evidence whatever that Bunford existed? Grosmont says on 12/Feb/10
This message board seems to be turning into a meeting place for fetishists! Grosmont says on 12/Feb/10
Anonymous - what if pigs had wings? Anonymous says on 11/Feb/10
What if they dug up his coffin and found that he was really 9 foot 11? Beowulf says on 11/Feb/10
Coke Machine
That was very close you got. Curious that his modelling agency at the time was anomusly citing someone as 7 6, but this wass before sultan kosen showed up. Grosmont says on 11/Feb/10
Marcus, that site is not reliable. Kempster was not 7 feet 11 at 19. He was medically examined and measured at 20, and was then stated to be 7 feet 8.
The quote from the undertaker's daughter seems to vary. Elsewhere she is supposed to have said her father mentioned "over 8 feet", not "over 8 feet 4 inches". The statement about the coffin is also wrong. Robert Wadlow's coffin was 10 feet 6 inches long, a full foot and a half longer than the corpse. The latest photo of Kempster I've seen dates from 1916, and he certainly isn't an 8 footer there. He MAY have reached 8 feet by the time he died, but there is no good evidence he did. Grosmont says on 11/Feb/10
Nippu, there are lots of pictures of Koehler. Look on the TallestMan site. Coke Machine says on 11/Feb/10
is accurate.. he was easily a foot taller than me. Coke Machine says on 11/Feb/10
Well I am 6ft and my head reached his upper chest so I would say 7ft 4in his accurate. Grosmont says on 11/Feb/10
Well then, Marcus, for heaven's sake tell us where the article is, or provide a link. Nippu says on 10/Feb/10
I just keep wondering why we have only few good pictures about Koehler and Carroll??? We have lot of pictures about Myllyrinne and wadlow....
Koehler and Carroll both lived modern era and quite modern country. So there must be pictures somewhere? Beowulf says on 10/Feb/10
Coke Machine
And your guess is ???? Coke Machine says on 8/Feb/10
Yes... Beowulf says on 8/Feb/10
Coke Machine
Were you near enough to get an approximation of his height? Coke Machine says on 7/Feb/10
I saw Chris Lister late last year... walking about.... Beowulf says on 6/Feb/10
Coke Machine
If you are from/in Leeds is Tall Chris Lister still thereabouts? Coke Machine says on 5/Feb/10
Truthfinder/Etchay.... it sounds like the woman I spoke to in 1999... I am 6ft tall and the top of my head reached the tip of her nose..... was it Saturday you saw her? Jellymonster says on 4/Feb/10
If anyone doesn't know, Jonathan Larson's birthday is today, and he made the pulitzer prize winning musical, Rent. Sadly, he died at age 35 from Aortic Dissection from Marfan Syndrome..does anyone know how tall he was??? Etchey says on 4/Feb/10
Truthfinder. Her hair was very dark, and she must have been 6'6" or 6'7" and I would say in her forties. Truthfinder says on 4/Feb/10
What colour was her hair Etchey? I know of one in Leeds who is aged about 43, who is about 6'6" or a bit taller and has black/dark hair..... Rita says on 4/Feb/10
Chaz, better do your math again. There is only 2 inches difference, not 1'2". But your point is well taken. chris says on 3/Feb/10
Mask - WOW, who's the giant chinese couple? Do you have names and heights? Shoe sizes? Is there an online translator that can translate the article? Chaz says on 3/Feb/10
aramx how is 7'11.8''a lot less than than 8'1''It's only 1'2''You do not seem to grasp GBW avarage is height over the day,3 laying down 3 standing up the reason is to take out the freek high and low measurements,it is very impotant to do the laying down ones because most of these giants are not in the best health,can not stand up fully with bad hips joints etc,remmber even giants like Chris Greener who had good health for meny years was only 7'4.9''in the evening,even Channa was only 7'6.75''evening when in good health,Kosen has had a hip op and leaning on a stick all day.like I said 7'11''standing is what I would expect,I would think morning laying down over 8'2''. aramx says on 2/Feb/10
Good point, but that vid does prove that Kosen is not 8'1" standing normally doesn't it? btw, 243 CM is not almost 7'11"! 242 cm is 7'11 1/4" so yeah do your math! That's 7'11.8 " but it is still a lot less than a flat 8'1"! mask says on 1/Feb/10
I guess it's Lock:
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aramx,I would not take too much notice of that vid, they say 233cm is 7'6'' when it's 7'7.33''allso 243cm is allmost 7'11''which is what I would expect from a standing one off measurement,from a 8'1''giant. aramx says on 30/Jan/10
This is a pretty interesting recent vid (one of the few made from this year) of Sultan Kosen. It states that Kosen was actually measured at 243 cm in NY in public! So that refutes anyone who actually says he was measured 8'1" there!
Click Here Highman says on 29/Jan/10
The Tallest Man:
We know John F. Carroll was real. Amazing we only have two photos of him - unbelievable. Any live near Buffalo that can go to the library for us? Grosmont says on 28/Jan/10
vonderburg, I can't read that story either, but if it's the Ethiopian who was the Emperor's umbrella carrier (or some such post), he wasn't a "poor fella", he was a murderer. Vonderburg says on 28/Jan/10
I can't read that story on the the executed Ethiopian Giant that anonymous posted by anonymous. When I zoom in it becomes illegible - does anyone know anything about this poor fella? aramx says on 28/Jan/10
Yeah Koehler had very bad posture. His posture is very similar to Ross Sambridge who would be a legit 7 footer (and not just 6-10) if it wasn't for spinal curvature. Rob C says on 27/Jan/10
His name is Kewal Shiels-Mohar. Rob C says on 27/Jan/10
There's this 7'4" 210 lbs basketball player from Victoria, Australia playing in Elsworth College in Iowa, USA. The Tallest Man says on 27/Jan/10
Birrowmar: Yes it is true. Grady Patterson was a hoax:
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Birrowmar says on 26/Jan/10
I have recently heard that Grady Patterson is a hoax or a fraud. Is this true???
The whole Grady Patterson thing was a hoax (and a pretty good one I might add). The pictures were photoshopped. Grosmont says on 27/Jan/10
Why all this discussion about Koehler? When he was alive, Guinness, in listing him as an 8 footer, made it quite clear that the measurementit was assuming a normal spine. Nippu says on 26/Jan/10
I also belive that Koehler actually never stands 8´2. But might be really close in 70´s if he could stand up straight. Chaz says on 26/Jan/10
Don Koehler's standing height was 7'10''you can see the other 4''from the hump on he's back. mytg8 says on 26/Jan/10
JT says on 25/Jan/10
Click Here (assuming the other guy is a legit 6’0” as claimed)
However….Click Here I have some doubt about Koehler’s true height as well. To me, he usually looks in the 7'9" range though his posture can be terrible.
Yes,if he was stretching the facts back in the 1950s, did he somehow convince Guinness he was over 8 feet in the sixties? Usually at that time, GBR backed up their research on giants, but Koehler was a personable fellow and Guinness did need a 8 footer for their book after Myllyrinne died in 1963.
I generally agree about his true height. In the early 1970s Guinness did say his standing height was about 7'10"--maybe that was his real height. 7-9 or 7-10. juncai zhang says on 26/Jan/10
How tall is Is Huang Chang-Chiu? JT says on 25/Jan/10
mytg8 says on 24/Jan/10
Another early fifties article claiming Don Koehler was 8-2:
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The tall club he joined said he was 7-7 at that time and reached 8-2 in the early sixties. That was confirmed by Guinness in their 1965 edition.
I'm beginning to wonder if Koehler was yanking our collection chains and actually never reached 8 feet at all
Click Here (assuming the other guy is a legit 6’0” as claimed)
However…. Click Here I have some doubt about Koehler’s true height as well. To me, he usually looks in the 7'9" range though his posture can be terrible. Grosmont says on 25/Jan/10
Rita, I think steeplejack is joking! Look at the fake rough grammar - "there were". Rita says on 25/Jan/10
Steeplejack: And Bolton is where??? Anonymous says on 25/Jan/10
The GBR said that Koehler had a standing height of 7-10. mytg8 says on 25/Jan/10
"collective chains" I meant. Truthfinder says on 25/Jan/10
From what I have read, either Geraldine Walton (who is either 6'8 or 6'9) or Sarah Roberts, 6'8, or Sarah Foley, 6'8, unless there is one alive taller.... mytg8 says on 24/Jan/10
Another early fifties article claiming Don Koehler was 8-2:
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The tall club he joined said he was 7-7 at that time and reached 8-2 in the early sixties. That was confirmed by Guinness in their 1965 edition.
I'm beginning to wonder if Koehler was yanking our collection chains and actually never reached 8 feet at all. mask says on 24/Jan/10
I don't know who is this:
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I only know he should be billed at 7'4" Highman says on 24/Jan/10
Interesting the Tallestman site lists an article about Bud Rogan wherein it states Guinness has him as the 4th tallest human of all time. I thought only Wadlow was taller.
The medical article on John F. Carroll was interesting too.
Too bad no one from Buffalo on this board....there HAS TO BE MORE PICS OF CARROLL!! HE ran for Alderman in Buffalo! Coke Machine says on 23/Jan/10
Is that her name Ann? Yes it could be her, unless there is another 6'6 woman in Leeds with dark hair... Coke Machine says on 22/Jan/10
Yes it sounds very much like her.... I haven't seen her since late 2006 though..... Coke Machine says on 22/Jan/10
The woman with dark hair in Leeds said that her dad was 5ft 11in, her mum was 5ft 7in, her younger sister was 5ft 4in. However, disappointingly, her shoe size was only a 8..... Coke Machine says on 21/Jan/10
Tyke - I got talking to the woman with dark hair in WH Smith's in Leeds in 1999, so it is 11 years ago now. We were both stood upright, and the top of my head reached the tip of her nose. I am exactly 6ft tall. Truthfinder says on 21/Jan/10
How long ago Tyke? Her name is Ann and she would be about 43 now.... it could very well be her yes.. she's probably the tallest woman in Leeds.... The Tallest Man says on 21/Jan/10
6 (new) Gabriel Monjane pictures added: Click Here Coke Machine says on 20/Jan/10
Is that her name? It would be about seven or eight ago when I last saw her...... she had glasses on... Rita says on 19/Jan/10
Coke Machine: Country locations please! This is an international board. Grosmont says on 19/Jan/10
Boxer, the reason I asked is that I have in my records the original Johnny C listing, which read "1881- fl 1903" and I wondered if perhaps you'd remembered the dates and forgotten the "fl". It would be surprising if she died at 22, as she looks so normal for a giant. For instance, her hands aren't disproportionately large. I'll put "1903(?)" in my list! Coke Machine says on 19/Jan/10
The tallest female I have ever met was in Doncaster at 6'8" and another in Huddersfield, the same height. Though I met two in Leeds. One was 6'7" and the other called Ann, with black hair, who is about 43, is 6'6"... Grosmont says on 19/Jan/10
Boxer, is that definite, that Wedsted died in 1903? It's the first time I've ever seen a date for her death. juncai zhang says on 19/Jan/10
Is Huang Chang-Chiu the tallest natural giant, or is it still Xi Shun? mask says on 18/Jan/10
Click Here(scroll down to go on) aramx says on 18/Jan/10
Grsomount. Yes they should have at least made a cast of the skeleton because it was inevitable that they would have lost the body eventually. Grosmont says on 18/Jan/10
The Irish protests about Byrne are probably connected to the fact Ireland is a strongly Catholic country. I think I'm right in saying Catholics believe in the resurrection of the body and thus disapprove even of cremation (as if God couldn't reconstitute ashes!). A plaster cast of the skeleton would be acceptasble from a scientific viewpoint, I suppose. After all, the dinosaur bones in museums are casts, not the actual fossils. It's a pity Birmingham university didn't make a cast of Jane Bunford's skeleton (I assume they didn't?) Anonymous says on 17/Jan/10
Time might be running out to see Byrne's skeleton..
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look at the pic at right on the top:
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I think that man could have been Felipe Birriel even though I'd must be mistaken! Grosmont says on 17/Jan/10
Boxer, I raised the question of that "Mariedl" picture on the TallestMan site, and he (TallestMan) doubts that it's Fassnauer. I have a horrible suspicion it is. We need to know the date of that photo, and the earliest date when she appeared strongly acromegalic, but we probably never will. How long would it have taken for the acromegaly to become so pronounced? If it is Mariedl, how very tragic. Grosmont says on 14/Jan/10
Brotton Bandit (or anyone)- we are still waiting for evidence regarding the "real" Henry Cooper! Vonderburg says on 14/Jan/10
Vondenburg
Are you aware that Werner Syre and Dora Helms had a daughter called Ruth. She was born about 1920 and was said to be 6 ft at 14. As far as I know - she had reached 6 ft 7 by 17. Just wondering if you knew of her.
Nope. Had no idea their union was blessed with children. I agree with The Tallest Man that Dora was no more than 6'10" and maybe a little less. Hard to tell with Skirts/Dresses hiding heels of shoes. Some pics Kaatje seems 8-12 inches taller-- others not so much. Click Here Giantesses are even more maddening in trying to nail down heights than Giants. But it's fun to debate!
If their daughter was 6'7" at 17 (circa 1937) - I gotta believe she toured with someone - no? Any pics of her? |
