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Dandelion says on 7/Nov/09
I wonder who was the strongest giantess. Any suggestions.
mask says on 7/Nov/09
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now aramx and the others I wanna know from you guys if there is one among us who would like to be that tall and have such problems with health mobilty etc.!?
we always discuss about giants and their height waiting for someone taller and taller but I don't know what I would think of someone like me if I were a giant 8 foot tall and were not even able to walk! I wanted to quit a few time back then I came back only because one of you (don't remember who) said to me that through our sort of publicity we could have helped some giants to be known and receive help and treatments for their disease but now I seriously am not sure anymore to keep doing what I did until now!I'll take some time to look inside myself and then if you'll see me ok if not thank you everybody! Vonderburg says on 6/Nov/09
I'd say there are only two gentlemen out there right now that could potentially take Sultan's crown over the next couple of years. Remember, we all thought Kosen was 7'9" until he measured out at 8'1"
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This does not preclude someone growing or coming out of the blue. aramx says on 6/Nov/09
Well, I knew Sultan would be the tallest man in the world because he requested to get measured unlike the countless other giants who claim to be 8 footers but are probably not. Kosen might hold the title for the rest of his life like Sandy Allen, but maybe there might be somebody who could legitimately take it from him within his lifetime (which is likely no more than to his 50s because extreme pituitary giants rarely live to normal expectancy) although it is unlikely there is anyone taller him (since all those claimants are rather questionable). Yeah I wouldn't mind if he held the title for the rest of his life either, but if there is actually somebody confirmed to be taller who is ignored, then no he shouldn't be recognized anymore. Big Show says on 6/Nov/09
Grosmont says on 5/Nov/09
aram, why are you so anxious for someone to take Kosen's title? What have you got against him? Or do you merely find it boring for a record to stand for long? If the latter, you must be really bored by Wadlow!
I don't know what aramx was implying, but I wouldn't mind if Kosen kept the title for the rest of his life as long as he is indeed the tallest man in the world. He deserves the title, as he stepped up to the plate and got himself measured, thus proving he is indeed the tallest 'recorded' giant! Not just one of those frauds who only claim they're the tallest. Olaf says on 6/Nov/09
Who could relieve Kosen of his title aram, who ? xei says on 6/Nov/09
Journal de la société des américanistes - 1909
Scroll down and read the article "Sur quelques géants américains" (also in PDF)
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aram, why are you so anxious for someone to take Kosen's title? What have you got against him? Or do you merely find it boring for a record to stand for long? If the latter, you must be really bored by Wadlow! aramx says on 4/Nov/09
Right now I am waiting for another giant who has the guts to get measured by Guinnes so that Sultan Kosen does not hold his record for the rest of his life (it's hard to tell he will live given his condition but probably at least another 10 years). Johnny C says on 4/Nov/09
I believe this thread is easier to follow if contributors stick with one user name. Maloney Durning says on 4/Nov/09
Kettlewell
Eliza Simpson came from Bantry in Ireland. She grew to a height of 7 ft 2 and was measured by Doctor Cloynes at Cork and also an agent of Barnum. Barnum's man was authorised to offer her a contract, which meant leaving for America.
She appeared at Barnum's Museum and was paired off with Norfolk giant Robert Hales. There has been speculation whether there was a marriage, between these two. But it may have been a publicity stunt. Several sources have indicated that Eliza came from Pittsburgh, this is incorrect, but she may well have had relatives, who had previously left Ireland and settled there. Kettlewell says on 3/Nov/09
Who was this Eliza Simpson (Irish Giantess) and giantess called Sophy, another new one on me. Have heard of several Irish gints, but never any Irish giantesses, are there any other Irish giantesses. ??? Boxerwhiteray says on 3/Nov/09
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Landon Middlecoff. Kentucky Boy Giant.
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Fedor Machnow. Boxerwhiteray says on 2/Nov/09
Grosmont
It would be good to see that photo of Sophy blown up. Whilst I am not convinced
that Sophy and Mariedl "The Tyrolean Giantess" are the same person - I must say
you do have a point. The height - body type and facial features do appear to be similar. As we know many show giants and giantesses appeared under several guises - so you may be right. Conal Cochrane says on 1/Nov/09
I would think that Eliza Simpson, would have to be a strong contender as Ireland's tallest woman Maloney. Grosmont says on 1/Nov/09
Boxer, I'll tell you who that Sophy reminds me of - "Mariedl"(Maria Fussnauer) 1879-1917. She was Austrian, I'd guess Princess Elizabeth was Austrian or German, and the dates look about right.
Maloney, that's an interesting bit of information, and it suggests Simpson was indeed Irish, rather than American. Maloney Durning says on 1/Nov/09
Eliza Simpson of Bantry, was measured By Doctor Cloynes in Cork. She was 7 ft 2
and I wonder if that would qualify her as Ireland's Tallest Woman. Boxerwhiteray says on 1/Nov/09
xei
The postings you sent today - I posted some of those a couple of years back.
Russian giant is Fedor Machnow and Dutch giant William is Anton "Werner" Syre. Conal Cochrane says on 31/Oct/09
Autocrat
The Pathe giantess, I would say is Londy. Boxerwhiteray says on 31/Oct/09
Grosmont
That giantess Sophy is a bit of a poser. As you say Annie Haase otherwise Katja van Dijk - did use the name Sophia at one stage - but Sophy has a completely different appearance. mask says on 31/Oct/09
Some chinese giants:
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Click Here(last 2 first line)in one of the 2 pics you can clearly distinguish Mu Tiezhu, Huang Chang-chiu, Zhang Huan and maybe Wang Tongxin and looking at it I must say that
Johnny C's estimations were all right! Autocrat says on 31/Oct/09
Grosmont
I am not sure myself, whether the Pathe tall lady is Katja Van Dijk or Londy. Indrid Cold says on 31/Oct/09
Does anyone know of a giant who played a Halloween monster or character. aramx says on 31/Oct/09
Zhang Juncai looks like an 8 footer. After all, he was measured at nearly 7,11 1/2" and I saw the vid of him being measured where he had very bad spinal curvature. I could easily see him as at least 5-6 cm taller if he could stand up straight. Zhang looks more like Don Koehler than Robert Wadlow imo. They are both about the same height and built (long leg high shoulders/small head) and had very bad spinal curvature (resulting in a standing height of slightly less than 8 feet instead of a full height of around 8,2"). Grosmont says on 30/Oct/09
Go to the Quasi-Modo page
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dealing with the midget Princess Elizabeth and scroll down. There's a picture of her with a giantess called "Sophy". I wonder who she was. Kaatje van Dijk (Annie Haase) used the name Sophia, but this woman looks much more "pituitary" than she did. Boxerwhiteray says on 30/Oct/09
The woman in the Pathe clip could well be Miss Londy "Eleanor Wagner or Waigener" also known as The Wonderful Giantess and The Dreamland Giantess. Some old postcards - I saw of her - listed her at 8 feet (exaggerated height) and 280 pounds (which was probably about right). About a decade after that clip
was made - Londy was appearig at The London Olympia with The Bertram Mills Circus - but by then she was weighing around 350 pounds. Grosmont says on 30/Oct/09
I must correct myself - I got mixed up there! The woman in the Pathe clip (Swiss Miss) is, I think, “LONDY” (Eleanor Wagner or Waigener) born in the 1890s, who was indeed Swiss. Grosmont says on 29/Oct/09
Rand, I've always taken the woman in that clip to be "Van Dijk". So you have a woman who was really German, but was usually said to be Dutch, being called a Swiss! She must have got confused, herself. Rand Hobart says on 29/Oct/09
Vondenburg
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Is this, so called Swiss giantess perhaps a young Katja van Dyke. mask says on 29/Oct/09
Lyuba Shilo the tallest woman in Ukraine:
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Uvays Akhtaev:
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Eliza Simpson, might well have lived in Pittsburgh, at some point, during her life. But she was indeed an Irish lass. mask says on 29/Oct/09
Don't worry Vonderburg it took me only 15 minutes to find the videos because I already knew that site and I've already found all of them little by little during the last months!Anyway thank you very much!Nice to have a friend like you! Boxerwhiteray says on 29/Oct/09
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Scroll down. Accordiong to this article - Eliza Simpson came from Bantry in County Cork. Ireland. Yet other reports have said she was from Pennsylvania. Grosmont says on 28/Oct/09
I've seen a picture you probably saw, Windrush, of Simpson and Hales, described as "Quaker Giants". As usual with these posters, they are made to look about 12 feet tall! I also saw her described as Irish. Windrush says on 28/Oct/09
According to The Annals Of Norfolk, a giantess named Eliza Simpson was measured by an agent of Barnum at 7 feet 2 inches and weighed at 337 pounds. Barnum engaged her services and promptly advertised her at 8 feet. She was paired off
with the famous Norfolk giant Robert Hales. I am not sure if Hales and Simpson married. If they were ever betrothed, then they must have divorced, as Hales did marry another woman, but she was not a giantess. According to some reports
Eliza Simpson came from Pittsburgh, PA. But another source I came across, indicated that Simpson was in fact a native of Ireland. Vonderburg says on 27/Oct/09
Looks like MASK found some videos that I missed and vice versa in that beautiful archive that MASK found. It took me four hours to find the ones that I did - goodness knows how long MASK searched.
see here for my indexing.
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Djenizbek again:
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Mask, you've excelled yourself! So we have yet another new name in Bakulin.
The captions to the Pathe video clips illustrate the readiness of the media to accept the most exaggerated height claims. By the way, in the clip of "Lofty" where he's said to be carrying a little boy, it's really his brother-in-law, the Swiss midget Seppetoni, who appears with him in many photos. mask says on 26/Oct/09
Timofei Bakulin:
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Timofei Bakulin:
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aramx: It is Charles Byrne, not Charles Brynes. Heap says on 26/Oct/09
Rand Hobart
About 50 years or so ago, there was a giant sized woman called Abigail Dean, who was about seven feet in height. I believe that she came from Manchester or Salford. Rand Hobart says on 26/Oct/09
I saw a woman, in Blackpool, during the late fifties, who had to be a genuine 7 footer. I am 6'4" and pardon the pun, but she towered over me. aramx says on 25/Oct/09
Well it could certainly be possible but historical accounts from ancient times are not reliable unless we have skeleton like Charles Brynes. Rita says on 25/Oct/09
GBR records that will probably never be broken, including Wadlow's:
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Wadlow's official record may stand for all time. But I am willing to consider that there MIGHT have been someone taller, that we have no RECORD of. Highman says on 24/Oct/09
Gusher:
Lets stay in the realm of facts. This Board too often goes into disproving false negatives, fantasies, hyptheticals ranging from Biblical stories, buried femur bones to the thought that Robert Wadlow didn't die because of his height and he was going to be a 10 footer. Grosmont says on 24/Oct/09
I like this piece from the great online satirical site The Onion:
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Well that makes sense because growth takes place mostly in the epipheysial long bones of a person, but I still think for the most part a giant is overall larger than a normal sized person. Extremely short people even midgets rarely have similar proportions to normal sized folks let alone giants. Sanchez says on 23/Oct/09
In general tall people have long legs and in general short people have shorter legs in proportion with their body size. giants are the extreme of growth and usually have long legs and arms (wingspan) sorry you guys are right arm span. Midgets and dwarfs are the extreme of very little growth and usually have shorter legs and arms n proportion with the size of their body than a normal person. Its not a rule just in general Sanchez says on 22/Oct/09
I believe Robert Wadlow's record will stand for a very very very long time especially with modern medicine. Rothwell says on 22/Oct/09
Old saying, where there is one, there is often another. I met 7 ft 1 tall Margaret Harvey in the seventies. So it is plausible that there could be another female of 7 feet or more, alive in the UK. Oih Oih says on 22/Oct/09
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Gusher has a point. Margold says on 22/Oct/09
Chris: I saw a gigantic woman a number of years ago, in the area where Julie Till comes from. That is a place called Stroud. This woman is the real deal, a real giantess. I would assume this had to be Julie. aramx says on 22/Oct/09
Gusher, there is just no concrete evidence of anyone who has been almost as let alone taller Wadlow. Anecdotal evidence never counts because it will guaranteed to be exaggerated. And yeah your right the majority of 7 footers do have relatively long legs but it is very unlikely that somebody like Leonid Stadnik (who also have relatively long legs) would be as tall as a 5,10" individual when sitting down, eh? To be honest, I don't see that huge of difference in proportion between a typical 7 footer and 5 footer. Gusher says on 22/Oct/09
Sanchez
I hear what you say. I am not saying, there were definitely giants taller or near as tall as Robert Wadlow. But there may have been in byegone days. We cannot be sure. Grosmont says on 22/Oct/09
Gusher, this question has been flogged to death long ago, usually taking the form of "How tall could Wadlow have grown had he lived longer?" Watch the video clips and see how difficult it was for him merely to walk. Look at the pictures of Kosen on sticks that are almost crutches. Look at the historical record and note the early ages at which giants used to die. Even now many are in very bad shape. Why would you think they'd have done better in times before modern medical care? Of course it's seldom possible to prove a negative, but in this case we can confidently say it is massively unlikely. Portius says on 22/Oct/09
Mamum
Andre did have a very large skull. But Robert Wadlow had a relatively small head in relation to his overall size. Gusher says on 22/Oct/09
Highman
How can you be sure there has never been anyone taller or near as tall as Wadlow. chris says on 22/Oct/09
I'm gonna think that Julie Till is either well under 7 ft 3, or completely made up, until we see SOMETHING about her somewhere...photos, articles, etc JT says on 21/Oct/09
aramx, most giants seem to have long legs. This is generally the case for anyone around 6'2" and up. Pick any 7 footer in the NBA and they'll have longer legs relative to their height than the average 5'6" person will. This is not the case with Andre or Big Show. They don't look dwarf-like but I'll bet their pant inseam is shorter than that of any 7 footer in the NBA. Rob C says on 21/Oct/09
Has anyone heard of the Bhullar brothers? Their names are Sim and Tanveer and they play basketball. They live in Toronto, Canada and both of them are over 7 feet tall at the ages of 13 and 17. Sanchez says on 21/Oct/09
Gusher yes there were many giants claiming to be 9 and 10 feet tall in the old books but there true heights were usually betwteen 6' 10 and 7' 8" rarely does a giant make it to 7' 9" and almost never does a giant make it to 8" there is about 6.792 billion people on this earth and we have only verification of one giant 8" or more , Remember this whenever a giant claims to be over eight feet tall 99.9% of the time its a lie , there have been only a handful of giants that have made it to 8' tall in modern history that have been verified . Many circus giants claim to be over 8' but were not , one good example would be the famous circus giant Jack Earle , claimed to be 8' 7" but was really only 7' 7" or Leonid stadnik claims to be 8' 5" but in real life about 7' 7" Guinness has not been able to find a giant over 8' tall in over 20 years until Sultan Kosen and the second tallest person that has been verified is Zhang the chinese giant at 7 11" Its possible that there may be another person over 8 feet but most unlikely , until they are measured by professionals they are just claims aramx says on 21/Oct/09
39 inches? That is remarkably short for somebody that height. I think a typical person that height would have an inseam of probably around 43 inches at least. I heard 7,7.5" Neil Fingleton's inseam is around 42 inches, but 7,8" George Bell only has a 43 inch inseam? I would expect Bell's inseam to be much longer consider long-limbed he is (his entire hand hangs below his buttocks, and his fingertips reach down to his knees!). 7,7" Manute Bol has a ridiculous inseam of 48 inches, so I would have to say he has some of the most disproportionately long legs! Mamun says on 21/Oct/09
I also think Andre has the largest head of anyone in Human history ! I
think his head was even bigger than Wadlow's ! I would like to see some
proof other wise !
Regards
Mamun Mamun says on 21/Oct/09
Just kidding aramx ! I have always wanted to be as tall as wadlow ! That
statue was in a GBWR musuem in Los Angeles and is a little taller than 9ft
given Wadlow's shoes . And I am not too happy being a dwarf at 5' 8" .
regards
Supermun Nippu says on 21/Oct/09
Well maybe Rutanen was near that 7´7? We have to know how tall was Siistosen Emppa(man next to Rutanen). Highman says on 21/Oct/09
Gusher says on 15/Oct/09
There are many giants in old books that were taller than Robert Wadlow. Except we cannot prove their heights. But it is food for thought.
THERE WAS NO ONE CLOSE TO WADLOW....GIVE IT A BREAK!! mask says on 21/Oct/09
Djenizbek the tallest man in Kyrgykistan:
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Nice picture of Reino but i think his standing height is about 7´2 max 7´4. Because typical finnish door is 6,7-6´8. Well nothing like Myllyrinne but tall indeed. Conal Cochrane says on 21/Oct/09
I think that Big Show was supposed to be Six Ft Eleven, whilst at College. Assuming that he hit his peak at 18, then that puts doubt on him being a genuine
Seven Footer. Vonderburg says on 20/Oct/09
First known picture of Reino Rutanen
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aramx says on 19/Oct/09
This is a random question, but has there ever been a giant (7 footer) with dwarf-like proportions rather than being normally proportioned or an eunchondial?
The example that comes to mind is Louis Moilanen. Although his height is the subject of conjecture (he was at least 236 cm. and possibly 246 cm.), other dimensions were accurately recorded at the time of his death. According to the mortician who took these measurements, his inseam was 39 inches, which is remarkably short for a man who was at least 7 feet 9 inches tall! Photos of Moilanen show that he had a huge torso and relatively short legs, unusual for a giant. I know that these proportions are far from dwarf like, but not your typical giant proportions. aramx says on 20/Oct/09
I disagree with JT. I think a large percentage of giants have proportions that are similar to 'regular-sized' humans. I mean people in the 5 foot range can oftentimes can very long limbs compared to their torso and head which is proportionally more similar to a 7 footer. I had this discussion before in Yao Ming thread, but I think the majority of 7 footers wouldn't look very strange if you scaled them down to a 5 footer (like 7,9" to 5,9"). On the other hand,a 4 footer who is scaled up to a 7 footer would probably look kinda unusual. I would say Andre the giant is pretty normally proportioned than dwarf-like, but he wouldn't look that strange as a 4 footer because the majority of 7 footers don't have relatively large heads compared to their frames.
What do you mean by looking a little taller, Mamun? It is possible the statue is less than 8,11". Of course, there is nothing wrong with your height of 5,8" if that is what you were suggesting. Beowulf says on 20/Oct/09
Agromegly (duff spelling, sorry) I seem to remember reading somewhere that one of the symptons of this is the elongation of the facial features, eyes. nose etc. Is this true? Mamun says on 20/Oct/09
My friend aramX , check out Andre the Giant's proportions ! He is closer to
dwarf-like than a normal person ! Also guys please check out my picture with
Wadlow on the top of this page ! I do look a little taller ! What do you
think ?
Regards
Mamun JT says on 20/Oct/09
aramx says on 19/Oct/09
This is a random question, but has there ever been a giant (7 footer) with dwarf-like proportions rather than being normally proportioned or an eunchondial?
Not dwarf-like, but Andre the Giant and Big Show have proportions similar to those of only an average size guy. Their legs are relatively short, meaning their torsos take up a larger percentage of their height. That's one reason why they weigh so much. I don't know of any other people with such proportions though I'm sure there are a few out there. It may also show that they stopped growing height-wise at a relatively young age for pituitary giants. Big Show said he hit his peak height at 18. Conal Cochrane says on 20/Oct/09
Julie Till of Gloucestershire is reportedly seven feet three. It would be good to hear any more news of this woman. aramx says on 19/Oct/09
This is a random question, but has there ever been a giant (7 footer) with dwarf-like proportions rather than being normally proportioned or an eunchondial? Conal Cochrane says on 19/Oct/09
Julie Till of Gloucesrershire is supposedly senen feet three. aramx says on 19/Oct/09
How tall is that Mohammed Riaz guy claiming? Giants exaggerating their height is so rampant that you can almost gurantee that they are unless they got officially measured or look the height they claim. mask says on 19/Oct/09
Search for "giant" in the last link! Grosmont says on 19/Oct/09
Mask, when I arrive at the Picture History site for which you posted the link, where do I go from there? I don't see a category which would include giants. Sanchez says on 19/Oct/09
Aramx how about Margo Dydek tallest female basketball plater, just a thought Crispin says on 18/Oct/09
I saw a woman in Gloucester, a few years back, who was a really super tall woman
and would estimate to have been above 7 feet tall. aramx says on 17/Oct/09
Speaking of giantesses, here's 6,11" Alana Renaud. I think she is the best example of a giantess I can think of right now. Click Here Rita says on 16/Oct/09
Gusher: Then you'd have to say they were "allegedly" taller since we don't know for sure. Grosmont says on 16/Oct/09
Minotaur, we can safely say Sorensen is a fake. There would be no reason for Guinness to have missed her: she isn't shy, because there is this (alleged) photograph, and she doesn't live somewhere like China, where access might be difficult. Kimberley Diamond is a bit more plausible, the claimed height being less extreme, but the name sounds suspiciously like a pseudonym. The two photographs I've seen suggests she was a professional model, so you'd think she would have turned up more frequently if she were really that tall. So, Sorensen definitely not true, Diamond just possible but unlikely. Arj says on 16/Oct/09
People shouldn't be so quick to write off Bret Sorensen, the photographic evidence is extremely compelling. Minotaur says on 15/Oct/09
Are Kimberly Diamond and Bret Sorensen definitely fakes. Is there any definite evidence of this. Grosmont says on 15/Oct/09
Well, Mask, now I know the Spanish word for "armspan" - "envergadura".
You learn lots of stuff on this forum!
Xei, excellent finds. I wonder where the skeleton of Khan is now. Presumably Iran, so it wouldn't be very easy to drop in and view it. xei says on 15/Oct/09
the second time that I post it:
Another pics of Siah Khan ibn Kashmir Khan
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Click Here Mordue says on 15/Oct/09
Saw a tall woman today, She was some height, getting on for seven feet. But slim in build, with a small head. Gusher says on 15/Oct/09
There are many giants in old books that were taller than Robert Wadlow. Except we cannot prove their heights. But it is food for thought. Poker Portal says on 15/Oct/09
More of the old George Bell: Click Here Sanchez says on 15/Oct/09
Sultan Kosen always wears very flat shoes unlike some other giants in the past . Circus giants were known to wear big boots to to boost there height . I guest also Sultan does not have much of a choice, shoes are hard to find at that size Grosmont says on 15/Oct/09
aram, there was once a carnivorous kangaroo nearly nine feet tall. Maybe, if it didn't eat you all at once, it tucked some in its pouch for later! aramx says on 14/Oct/09
Of course, there is no human in recorded history who was nearly as tall as this extinct, prehistoric short faced bear when it reared up! 11 feet or nearly twice as tall as the woman standing right next to its skeleton. That means the woman is around 5,8". I would be terrified if I saw something that tall on two legs! MisterSil says on 14/Oct/09
Bret Sorensen and Kimberly Diamond are fakes Rand Hobart says on 14/Oct/09
There seems to be distinct lack of information on some relatively modern day giantesses. Does anyone have any information on Bret Sorensen, Kimberly Diamond
or Linda Bruno for instance. xei says on 13/Oct/09
the new Manute Bol in Spain
Bienvenu Letuni, from Congo (gigantism), basketball player, 15 years, 2.24m., wingspan 2.42m.
Click Here Galbraith says on 13/Oct/09
Last saturday, I saw a young woman in Hull, whom I would describe as a giantess.
I am Six Two and over 200 pounds. The young lady, in her early 20s is way way
taller than me and probably the better part of 100 pounds heavier, She is a real big one. Grosmont says on 13/Oct/09
Curly -
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Closeups of his face show extreme deformities. This is the only picture I've seen of him standing (with difficulty!) Curly says on 12/Oct/09
Grosmont -
Siah Khan was heavily reported in the press in 1933 and was mentioned as early as 1931. Even Time magazine made mention of him around this time. As "The Persian Giant" he had been eking out a living in circuses and sideshows, although I have never been able to determine exactly where. In any case, every press report from this time attributes a height of 11 feet, 3 inches to Siah Khan. Ghost says on 12/Oct/09
Can anybody post a picture of Shiah Khan? What was his real height? Grosmont says on 12/Oct/09
Curly, thanks for that information - where did you find it? The state poor Khan was in, you couldn't blame him if he thought he might get some money somehow! As for Dr Fuchs, why did he do it? It must have ruined his reputation.
Mask, I can't read the Russian text, but I see the figure 2.30 for Dergunov. If that's his height in metres, it's not quite 7'7", is it? Curly says on 11/Oct/09
Believe it or not, Siah Khan (or his handlers) were claiming a height of 11 foot 3 well before he met Dr. Fuchs! mask says on 11/Oct/09
Alexander Dergunov Tallest man in Mordovia at 7'7" and still growing:
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Nicolay Zabolotny:
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Click Here(video) Johnny C says on 11/Oct/09
Click Here (Starts at page 81) Grosmont says on 11/Oct/09
Duhon, over the years, many exaggerated claims have been made, not by the individual, but by someone else, such as sideshow managers or even doctors seeking publicity. As far as I know it was not the unfortunate Shiah Khan himself who claimed he was 10'6", it was a medical man. In the days of the sideshows, giants were usually contractually obliged to refuse being measured.These people often have no other way of earning a living, so if they do personally claim exaggerated height, we should, as the saying goes, cut them some slack. Duhon says on 11/Oct/09
Anybody who floats around the idea of being the tallest person in the world byt does not go through with official measurements loses any credibility in my eyes Boxerwhiteray says on 10/Oct/09
I see where you are coming from Grosmont. Marriane Wehde appeared in a show called Babel and Bijou. I believe Rosa Wedsted would also appear in a version of that show later on. But to answer Clement's question - the Bijou Girl was Alfreda Fischer. Alfreda used to appear in vaudeville and was a foil for a short comedian. One venue they did was called The Bijou. That was where the name
came from. Grosmont says on 10/Oct/09
Clement, there is something funny about the idea of a bijou giantess! Marianne Wehde appeared in a show called "Badel and Bijou" together with a midget, I think, so possibly the name could have got attached to her.
Aram, I'm not clear whether that second part of your posting is your opinion or more of Rob's. Anyway, what's wrong with someone holding the record for a long time? It's bad enough that Guinness nowadays print information only about Wadlow and the current tallest. Aren't we interested in the whole fascinating array of giants, past and present, with all their various heights? aramx says on 9/Oct/09
Rob C says on 16/Sep/09
In the month of December Ijaz Ahmed supposedly is going to be measured by Guinness World of Records' people. And who knows? Maybe he comes up being the height he claims as it happened with Sultan Kosen.
If he is willing to get officially measured it is very likely he is the height he claims or very close. I hope he ends up being taller than Sultan Kosen because the worst thing that can happen is when a giant hogs the tallest record for a very long time (like Sandy Allen). aramx says on 9/Oct/09
Here's a short vid clip of a 6,10" giantess with a short 5,3" dude on Youtube! Click Here
I am very impressed by this vid! Anonymous says on 9/Oct/09
scary. he'd tower over someone 7 foot by 23 inches! Sanchez says on 9/Oct/09
Johnny C thanks you for your comments . you have done us all a great justice by supplying us with this site and thetallsite,com thanks again. Neil says on 9/Oct/09
One of the pics below proves that Clifford Thompson was actually about 7'4 ,nowhere near his acclaimed height of 8'8. Beowulf says on 9/Oct/09
Thanks to all for your suggestions. My technical abilities (as the I T bods at work could tell you) are limited in this sphere. Clement says on 9/Oct/09
Does anyone know of a giantess known as The Bijou Girl and The Bijou Giantess. Johnny C says on 9/Oct/09
Sanchez: Apologies. I misinterpreted your 7/Oct/09 comment here.
Truthfinder: I too have read the GBR entries for Susannah Boyd and Ann Hardy, but I do not consider such citations as evidence for confirmed heights. I put the question to you here on 6/Oct/09 on the understanding that your comment in reference to Britain's tallest women, "The second tallest is Ann Hardy, and the third tallest is Susannah Boyd.", was a statement of fact, with newly-discovered evidence (particularly in view of the username you have chosen). aramx says on 9/Oct/09
Now, I am waiting for Zhang to get officially measured because he can be taller than Kosen. Truthfinder says on 9/Oct/09
I got the information about Susannah Boyd and Ann Hardy from old publications of the Guinness Book of Records. If you look at editions from 1966-1970 they are mentioned in there. Of course, you will never see photographs of them, because they died before cameras were invented, or in Boyd's case, popularised. Ginny Bunford lived in the camera age, but she was a recluse, probably due to embarrassment and dislike of publicity. I forgot about Mary Hales. It is safe to say that Ginny Bunford is the tallest known UK female of all time though. In fact, she is the tallest person known to have lived in the UK. Sanchez says on 8/Oct/09
Johnny C I would never suggest that I am always right ,only an idiot would do that , I make mistakes all the time , with all the medical advancements i thought we may never see another 8 footer for a while or in in our life time , don't forget he is barely over 8 feet and the operation that he had on his back may have helped him become a little taller. I have no doubt that he is 8' 1" because he steps up to the plate and lets professionals measure him , fake giants would never do that. I am very very happy for Sultan and I hope that he prospers from his height, gets married, makes money and has a better life. I am not 99mvp respectfully always Sanchez. Milton Ives says on 8/Oct/09
Amaleen Baker was probably tallest woman in United States during the forties and fifties. She may have been again briefly, after Delores Pullard Johnson died. The Fugitive says on 8/Oct/09
Indrid. Perhaps the woman you mention was Amaleen Baker. Indrid Cold says on 8/Oct/09
An aquaintance was telling me about a 7 foot plus tall woman, who was in Richmond. Virginia around 1966 or 7. Does anyone know, who that might have been. Sanchez says on 7/Oct/09
Sultan Kosen is the real deal at 8' 1" , can't wait to see him stand next to another giant of known height. nonbelievers BELIEVE No matter how many people tried to downgrade his height i always said the same thing ( I think this guy maybe taller than 7' 9") I was right Poker Portal says on 7/Oct/09
Beowolf:
I don't think you can link to a picture on your pc. Do you have a photobucket account (free), or any other image storage websites available on the internet?
If you upload your image to any of them you can just paste the url to it here (right-click and copy the properties) and it will come up automatically with the 'click here' line.
Hope this helps. Johnny C says on 7/Oct/09
Beowulf: Pasting a webpage URL ( Click Here etc. etc.) into your comments will produce the familiar "Click Here" hyperlink here. Beowulf says on 7/Oct/09
re last post, meant how to get the 'click here' function set up. Beowulf says on 7/Oct/09
Johnny C
I have an image on my pc, which i would like to share with the you and the regulars here. Snag is do not know how too, hence my request. Grosmont says on 7/Oct/09
JT, those pictures of the Kashmir giants are interesting, inasmuch as they are in identical pairs, and so were presumably intended for stereo viewing.
I love the way the Americans, stolidly Christian as always, called poor old Chang a heathen. I suppose he might have regarded them in the same light!
Boxer, thanks for the clarification. Johnny C says on 7/Oct/09
Beowulf: Please clarify what you mean when you ask "how do i get an image on here?" Boxerwhiteray says on 7/Oct/09
Grosmont
Elspeth Caldicott died in 1810. Someone did mention her and an Elizabethan giantess. These were two seperate issues and that person asked if anyone knew of a giantess - alive at the time of Elizabeth 1. They did not state Elspeth Caldicott was alive then. The reference you make to a giantess around 9 feet is
well known to me - as you say it was in Notes and Queries and has been reprinted in several other publications. It has crossed my mind that the reference may allude to Elspeth Caldicott. aramx says on 6/Oct/09
Here's some pics of the 'world's tallest man' including Alam Channa, Radhouane Charbib, Xishun, and Kosen. Click Here Grosmont says on 6/Oct/09
CFS Warren, MA, in "Notes & Queries" of 14 August 1875, said his father had told him of seeing, in the early 19th Century, a woman nearly 9 feet tall. Assuming this is true, and allowing for an exaggerated height, I wonder who she was. Hardy or Boyd, perhaps.
Heno, you need to study Johnny C's lists, where you'd find some of those names! Caldicott was mentioned a while ago by someone on this message board, but she was then said to have lived during the reign of Elizabeth I. Beowulf says on 6/Oct/09
A request. I know it has been mentioned often enough, but how do i get an image on here? In as simple as terms as poss, can one of the forums techno wizards oblige. Thanks. Heno says on 6/Oct/09
Never heard of Mary Hales. Julie Till. Ann Hardy. Sussanah Boyd. Victoria Hall. Elspeth Caldicott. Who are/were these people. I have heard of Ginny Bunford. Conal Cochrane says on 6/Oct/09
Mary Hales of Norfolk was also seven feet two.
Julie till of Gloucestershire is reputedly seven feet three. Johnny C says on 6/Oct/09
Truthfinder: Please confirm the evidence for the 7 ft 2 inches (218.44 cm) and 7 ft 1 inch (215.90 cm) heights you quote respectively for Ann Hardy and Susannah Boyd.
mask: Many thanks for providing links here. Boxerwhiteray says on 6/Oct/09
Truthfinder
Victoria Hall of Glasgow - who was alive in the 19th century and possibly early twentieth century may have been 7 ft 6. Also Elspeth Caldicott another british giantess - who was alive about a century earlier than Victoria Hall was 7 ft 5. Truthfinder says on 5/Oct/09
The tallest known women ever to have lived in Britain are Ginny Bunford (1895-1922) whose highest standing height was 7ft 10in in 1916, but would have measured 7ft 11in when she died had it not been for a spinal curvature. Her abnormal growth was triggered in 1906 when, at the age of 11, she fell off her bicycle and hit her head on the pavement. The second tallest is Ann Hardy, and the third tallest is Susannah Boyd. Anonymous says on 5/Oct/09
Sultan Kosen is the real deal 8' 1" are there still some nonbelievers Poker Portal says on 5/Oct/09
Here is a difficult quiz about recognizing giants from snippets of a (well) known photograph:
Click Here Truthfinder says on 5/Oct/09
Ann Hardy of Rippingale, Lincolnshire. She was born in February 1799 and died in July 1815. She was 7-foot-2 tall. She was 6-foot-1 and weighed 13 stone when she was 11. The second is Susannah Boyd of Scribe, near Seaford. She was born in 1803 and died in May 1831. She was 7-foot-1. Master Markie says on 5/Oct/09
Rita is right, we should say armspan and not wingspan.
Not everyone carries a cellphone or mobile. I certainly do not.
A guy I know is six seven. He was telling me that he had met Gary Tiplady at some convention. Chris told me that Gary has a spinal curvature, and that Gary's height has been reduced as a consequence. Chris reckoned he is almost as tall as Gary.
Johnny C
It would be good to have an updated list of tall women. Topsy says on 5/Oct/09
Who was Britain's second tallest woman. Ginny Bunford was tallest, I do not know, who or how tall, the next tallest was. Can anyone help. mask says on 4/Oct/09
Johnny C for you:
Click Here
search for "tallest man" or "tall man" or "giant man" etc.
there are video about Wadlow, Petursson, Aasen, Jan van Albert, Thompson, Tarver and many others! aramx says on 4/Oct/09
Here's an interesting vid on 7,8 1/2 Michael Ri. There brief clips of Alam Channa and Naseer Soomro, too. Click Here L A Bohan says on 4/Oct/09
and you have no cellphone photos that you snapped of her for us to see? tsk tsk Blackberry Pie says on 4/Oct/09
Johnny C
I know we have had one before, but would there be a chance of producing an updated list of British tallest women. Either way thanks. L A. Bohan says on 3/Oct/09
On thursday, I boarded a train at Derby, bound for Nottingham. To my total amazement a woman boarded the train, the like of which, I have never seen
before. Her head was virtually touching the carriage ceiling. She was well built, fair haired, and I would say in her fifties. Rita says on 2/Oct/09
Wingspans? Wouldn't these be ARMspans? Sounds like you're comparing these people to pterodactyls. aramx says on 1/Oct/09
Yeah an 8-6 wingspan is very impressive especially somebody with shoulders that narrow. I think there are lots of giants in the near 8 foot range that had wingspans well over 8 feet. Now this giant, Felipe Birriel, has long arms! Click Here mask says on 1/Oct/09
Johnny C or anybody who knows how to view some of these clips:
Click Here
Johnny C if you go on until page 20 you can find several clips I guess that can be seen in some way I don't know.
You could find also some new giants if you click on "tallest man in Hungary meets shortest" or some images about these clips if you click on the title "the tallest man in Japan" !
Let me know please! Look carefully! Bye guys! Barnaby Joyce says on 1/Oct/09
I always thought the most impressive wingspan was the crazy 8'6" span belonging to 7'7" Manute Bol. Given how narrow he is across the shoulders his arms are exceptionally long. Barnaby Joyce says on 30/Sep/09
Wadlow's wingspan was 9'5 3/4". Barnaby Joyce says on 30/Sep/09
Wadlow's wingspan was 10'6". Anonymous says on 30/Sep/09
Sultan Kosen is the real deal 8' 1" and I can"t wait to see him stall next to another giant of known height.
nonbelievers BELIEVE. Sanchez says on 30/Sep/09
Robert Wadlow's wingspan if I remember it right was 9' 5 3/4" aramx says on 30/Sep/09
Here's a quick clip of a Sultan Kosen on Today Show in NYC!
Click Here
He definitely has the look of an 8 footer! I am starting to think Zhang might not have a chance of being taller than him. aramx says on 30/Sep/09
I've read Wadlow's wingspan was about 9-5 (287 cm). Monjane definitely had a long wingspan for his height considering how long his arms are for his height. I am a little surprised that Vaino's wingspan was that long. His arms don't seem that long for his height. Nippu says on 30/Sep/09
Vaino Myllyrinne has 9ft wingspan(275cm). That´s a lot. I wonder how´s Robet´s was. And Monjane has gigantic wingspan also. I think maybe even 9´3-9´8? Conker says on 30/Sep/09
Six feet eleven inch Rhona Fraser, who I knew from Banbury in the sixties had really massive hands. mask says on 30/Sep/09
Ras he is Calvin Lane and he's not 7'8" but about 7'5"! Styx says on 30/Sep/09
I met Kim Carter a good many years back. She was 6 ft 11 1/2. I know she came from Workington or Whitehaven in Cumbria. If she is still around, she will be 55
as I know she was born in 1954, same year as myself. Talking of big hands, I have never seen anyone else with bigger hands. I met her at Silloth and compared height, hands and feet. She was much bigger in every department and I am no small fry. Grosmont says on 30/Sep/09
Mask, great finds as always, particularly the Corbis photos. Who do you think it is in the picture captioned "Dwarfs and tall man on stage at sideshow"? I reckon it's Clifford Thompson (Count Olaf). The lanky guy in that picture from an Australian show is completely new to me. Highman says on 29/Sep/09
I like how people on the board doubt GBR despite a measurement....nice tall man site...where is my mate Johnny C and his crazy Phrazm pay per view... aramx says on 29/Sep/09
nah, Ras a 5-8 person would only come at about that level standing next to an 8 foot 1 person. When I mean by 'come up to' I am talking about the top of head would only come up to. Let's say the top of head to shoulder distance is even as great as 18 inches, the shoulder level of an 8 foot 1 person would be still be around 6 foot 9 which is more than a foot higher than a 5 foot 8 person. 8 foot 1 is simply amazing if you ask me! Sanchez says on 29/Sep/09
Ras , Aram X exactly my point no where near his shoulder EXACTLY, Don Riddell of CNN who is 6' 4" stood back to back with Sultan and he was a good 6 inches from his shoulder. a guy who i know is 5' 11"stood next to Leonid Stadnyk and he was just about up to his shoulder and I knew instantly he was fake, 8' 5" no way The distance from the top of the head of a known person height to a giants shoulder gives me a real good idea of how tall a giant is. Anybody who knows anything about giants knows what i am talking about.
Curly; Constantin, Julius Koch's hands that I remember were recorded at 12 3/4" equal to Wadlow's.
Wadlow holds the record for hands and feet 12 3/4" for hands and 18 1/2" for his feet.
I love how everybody on this site is a giant expert. I have been posting on this site since everybody thought Jack Earle was really 8' 7" and there was 8 footers everywhere. Ras says on 29/Sep/09
Dude, mask, on this link you posted:
Click Here
It says on a picture "Predator star 7ft8", just which "predator star" are they talking about? Kevin Peter Hall? Cause if it's so, then I think these guys are off by about 4 inches at least. Hall is listed here as 7ft3 and I've got to agree with that listing. |
