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Geister says on 26/Jul/10
Was Ginny Bunford taller than William Bradley. Adrian Ires says on 25/Jul/10
Tomorrow will mark the anniversary of the birth of Ginny Bunford, Britain's tallest recorded citizen. It will be 115 years since the birth of this remarkable woman. I have heard of another giantess, who also hailed from Birmingham, but have not traced her name. I think this other giantess lived just prior to Ginny. Dymant says on 19/Jul/10
60 years or so ago, my folks took me to Sacramento for the California State Fair. On the midway pitch was a real tall woman, billed as tallest in the world. She was huge and had acromegalic features. I was only a kid at that time and do not recall her name or height, she was billed at. Be interesting to find out. Maritimus says on 19/Jul/10
King Frederick attemted to produce a race of giants by mating the men of his
famous tall regiment with the tallest women he could secure. They say there are many very tall women in Potsdam even now. Did Hitler try to create a race of giants. I believe he also wanted to mate very tall men and women to produce gigantic stock. GHP says on 16/Jul/10
It was seventy years ago yesterday, that Robert Wadlow passed on. Chaz says on 16/Jul/10
there can not be much going on in the height world at the moment Beowulf.it's about time Guinness got on with finding the worlds tallest woman. ANTAEUS says on 16/Jul/10
Beowulf, you are absolutely right, but you won't be popular with some people here! Beowulf says on 15/Jul/10
some very odd subjects being discussed here of late, which are both unanswerable and dead ended. Reginald Moleberry says on 15/Jul/10
Robert would probably have topped nine feet if he had lived a little longer, It's a shame he did not make the magic nine feet. Michael S says on 14/Jul/10
Yao Ming was genetically engineered only in the sense that genetics gave him his height: his father is 6'10" and his mother is 6'2". ANTAEUS says on 14/Jul/10
These ideas of genetic engineering are wild and over-imaginative. It's not as though it wouldn't be done if it were possible. Remember the athletes of former East Germany, stuffed with steroids.
But, if the science were available, surely China would have produced, not a few giants, but whole teams of them? For that matter, how about America? That's where the most money is involved in basketball. If it could be done, it would be - and we'd know about it.
Another point: if giants could be engineered, why isn't the treatment being used on undersized children? And another: wouldn't the reverse be possible - stopping OVERSIZED people from growing? If thses things were happening, we'd know. Anonymous says on 12/Jul/10
MULDOON says on 12/Jul/10
It is rather a ridiculous assertion to say that extremely tall people are genetically engineered. They are either naturally tall or otherwise have some form of gigantism. Simple as.
I'm not saying it's a truth, but a possibility. I heard rumours that 7-6 Chinese basketball player Yao Ming as well as other abnormally tall sports players were genetically engineered. Ned Philips says on 12/Jul/10
Once saw a tall lass down london way in the summer of 69, wore red shoes she did and spoke with a voice. Does anyone know who she is or were? Beowulf says on 11/Jul/10
This may not get through, but here goes. If any of the regulars are on facebook,so are messers, lister, sturgess and fingelton. With regards to the former, he has a number of pics on his page, where one can approximate his height. But if anyone else can access these, perhaps they can hazard a guess and see if a concensus can be achieved. Anonymous says on 11/Jul/10
I think it's possible that extremely tall people were genetically engineered. Anonymous says on 9/Jul/10
Being extremely tall and short is not the norm. Anonymous says on 8/Jul/10
J Mallory says on 8/Jul/10
Yes Chris, but I am 6'7" without shoes and have seen a woman in Derby, who is much taller than me. She does not wear high heels and her har does not stand up. This woman is a giantess.
I think these abnormally tall women as well as men have been using HGH, cause I heard it's legal in Europe, but not in the U.S. chris says on 8/Jul/10
@J Mallory.... my comments weren't necessarily directed at you, more at the world in general. Some who's 5'8" can't tell if a woman is 6 ft 4 or 6 ft 8 in most cases.... If you're 6 ft 7 and your eyes are staring straight ahead at a woman's nose, mouth, chin or neck, she's without a doubt taller than you are, and you can easily judge whether she's 1, 2, 3, 4, etc inches taller than 6 ft 7 :) For the non-giant person, the task is much harder to get right chris says on 8/Jul/10
again I feel I must comment.... it has nothing to do with build.... in fact, a very thin woman will look taller many times than a stockier-built woman of the same height...
but the bottom line is, unless one is truly skilled in estimating heights, the vast majority of women you think are 6 ft 8 are probably 6 ft 4 or thereabouts..
this is based on my 20 plus years in this field.... please scroll down to my last posting with much more information on height estimating and a survey that was done of same juncai zhang says on 7/Jul/10
is there a picture of sultan kosen and george bell together? Anonymous says on 6/Jul/10
Not sure about people claiming to see 7 seven feet tall women, it would've been on tv. Either people are dreaming or seeing women giving the illusion of being taller due to their massive build or with heels. Being tall isn't always great. Taller people as well as extremely short ones tend to become more fragile than regular-sized people. Warren says on 6/Jul/10
On a visit to Leatherhead, Surrey, I saw a woman 6-8 or 6-9 who must have been 400 pounds or more. I am 6-4 and 252 and this woman is a whole lot bigger than me. Truthfinder says on 6/Jul/10
I believe that Julie Till is a fictional giantess, 'Till someone can prove on here otherwise. Truthfinder says on 5/Jul/10
The second tallest female in British medical history was Ann Hardy of Rippingale, Lincolnshire. She was born in January 1799 and was 6'1 and 13st at the age of 11. She was 7'2" when she died aged only 16 on 17th July 1815. She obviously had what would be called an overactive pituitary gland nowadays. Viper says on 5/Jul/10
Sultan Kosen is a good looking guy for being the tallest in the world. His facial structure just bigger than normal Jamienavy says on 4/Jul/10
Bramley says on 4/Jul/10
Over 30 years ago, I met a 12 year old girl who was 6'4". I wonder how tall she became.
Really, that's just freakish. Truthfinder says on 4/Jul/10
The tallest woman I have ever seen has been 6'8", though I have seen about three or four at 6'7" and one or two at 6'6". Haven't seen any at seven foot though. Not only was Jane Bunford the tallest woman in Britain's medical history, but she is the tallest known Briton to have lived and was possibly the tallest person in the world when she died. Bigback says on 29/Jun/10
Shaley says on 28/Jun/10
I am 6 feet tall and encountered the tallest woman I ever saw at Keswick in Cumbria in 1976 (the hot summer). I was walking up the main street and saw this towering woman coming towards me. She was wearing sandshoes and I was wearing heels of about two inches. My head was about level with this womans shoulder. She had fair hair and was quite well made. A lot of people were staring. I felt small in comparison. Wonder if she was the woman at Carlisle as the two places are sort of in proximity.
Are you really six feet tall? The tallest I've seen in a female is about 6'7 at most. Do you know who the lady was, is she even alive today, cause sadly I don't see very tall people living to be old. Curly says on 28/Jun/10
Back in 1972, I encountered a woman in Blackpool who towered over me and appeared to be at least 6 foot 9. Come to think of it, I was standing in a ditch at the time, so she was probably closer to 5 foot 6. Can we please take a break from the slightly taller than average women we all seem to have encountered in the past 40 years and get back to the discussion of giants? There must be some new insight on Suleiman Ali Nashnush, Ferdinand Contat, the Hugo Brothers, Antonin Cros, Armand Bronner, Bernard Coyne or even the Grady Patterson hoax! Let's have some REAL discussions on this board! Thanks for putting up with my rant... Skyhook says on 25/Jun/10
Now let's talk 6 foot 11 -7 foot plus bodyguards !
does anyone have and idea who this guy is ? nicknamed Tiny?
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also Floyd mayweather have a 7 foot bodyguard named Alfonso Redic or something but no photo and no background info or info in general on him,
Eminem and 50 cent also had a 7 foot 2 or something bodyguard? anyone have any info on him ?
please name all the 7 foot, 7 foot plus bodyguards u can think of Anon says on 24/Jun/10
P C. Grimes says on 24/Jun/10
I have a pal who is 6'7" and that is a fairly big guy. A good few years back, I saw a woman in Botchergate, Carlisle, who was without doubt a few inches taller than him. She was wearing trainers and they were a very large size.
Really? Unless her hair was standing on end. I've been seeing a lot of that nowadays, it's common mostly among young people. Anonymous says on 24/Jun/10
It's just sad that abnormally tall people have short lifespan. It's just that the human body wasn't really built to be that high, because the large body have more blood to pump. It's okay to be somewhat or kinda tall, but not extreme. I never see very tall people living to be old. runt says on 22/Jun/10
R.I.P. Manute Bole. One-on-one with Spud Webb!
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The girl on the far left is quite the tall drink of water!
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Hack says on 21/Jun/10
Struth, I saw a woman last year at Shildon, Co Durham, who was higher than a
6 feet 9 height barrier.
Was she in flat feet or in heels or shoes whatever? Mamun says on 20/Jun/10
We lost another giant celebrity yesterday on 19th June 2010 ! The legendary
former tallest NBA player " MINUTE BOL " has passed away aged only 47 !
Rest in Peace MINUTE ! parva carnis says on 19/Jun/10
do you think trijntje keever could be really taller than Zeng Jinlian
she lived many years ago, and at taht time was more difficult to be so tall Anonymous says on 16/Jun/10
Why use a shorter man instead of someone taller. My health teacher is taller Nippu says on 16/Jun/10
There´s NO WAY that Maria has ever been 7´4. I´ll give him Max. 7´0. Most likely 6´8-6´10. At least photos don´t give her much credit. Subject is so boring that i never bother to write my opinion here=) wfs says on 15/Jun/10
Didn't kosen meet the tallest american {7'8"} not long ago??? No pics?? chris says on 15/Jun/10
two things come into play with someone's height.... if you ask a tall person their height, many times they add a few inches to seem more impressive.... and if you estimate their height without asking them, you're almost 100% likely to guess a few inches too high.... this has been proven time and again. Once I read a study that was done... the researcher had many average height people (men and women) try to guess the height of a man who was in reality 6 ft 11. There were 50 guesses from the 50 subjects.... 47 of the guesses were between 7 feet and 8 feet tall, with more than 30 of those off by more than 5 inches....only one of the 50 got it right, and two were lower than the true actual height. Anon says on 15/Jun/10
HeeBee says on 14/Jun/10
My Uncle Dewey, was a very large guy. He told me, more than once, that he had met a 7 feet plus woman at Hamburg, Arkansas around 1967 or 8. She was massive in build and had fair hair.
Not quite sure about the woman's height being 7 feet plus, could be her build making her look taller than she is or she could've been in heels. When a person has a large frame, they'll appear taller than they really are, and if a person has a small, lean frame, they'll give off a shorter appearance, it's a visual illusion. Maybe people claiming or said to be seven feet or over, might not be really, but based on their body proportions and in shoes as well. chris says on 14/Jun/10
Boxer - seems very suspicious since there's no evidence of any American woman over 7 feet tall except for Sandy..... It would make me very suspect of any accurate measurements in that competition..... It would seem that even back then there would be many more photos, film, newspaper stories, etc about such a competition, don't forget, that wasn't in the 20s or 30s, it was much later.... we have probably 80 photos of Wadlow, and only about 6 of Maria.... Clay says on 14/Jun/10
What the devil? says on 5/Jun/10
Robert Wadlow is the tallest person whose height has been reliably proven. However, if you go back through millions of years of evolution and the billions of people who have ever lived, it is almost certain that there have been taller people.
Agreed. in the 100,000+ years of the human species its nearly mathematically certain there has been someone over 9 feet. chris says on 8/Jun/10
that might be true....but I am not aware that she was ever appropriately and accurately measured by someone in authority (we all remember the Stadnyk debacle)... in the photos I've seen of Maria Feliciana (even the older ones when she wasn't frail and old), she certainly looks tall, but she could just as easily be 6 ft 8 as 7 ft 4. I'd guess she was always under 7 foot, judging from the photos I've seen.... I've known several 6'8"-6'10" women personally, and taken photos with them, and the height difference is approximately what I see from the Maria photos.... and we all remember Svetlana Singh who claimed to be 7 ft 2 but was measured on camera at 6 ft 8.... The Tallest Man says on 8/Jun/10
Chris: Maria Feliciana dos Santos is taller (at her peak) than both of them.
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Forgot to sign the post about Maria Felicana. Sorry Anonymous says on 8/Jun/10
Maria Feliciana dos Santos is 7'4
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I would guess that right now the second tallest living woman to Defen would be either Margo Dydek or Uljana Semenova, not sure who is taller in bare feet.... I'm not aware of any other women who are truthfully over 7 feet tall...though there are many who say they are... Anonymous says on 6/Jun/10
Parva carnis, if there was really the new tallest living woman, we would've heard it on the news, but there's not. Are you pulling our legs? What the devil? says on 5/Jun/10
Robert Wadlow is the tallest person whose height has been reliably proven. However, if you go back through millions of years of evolution and the billions of people who have ever lived, it is almost certain that there have been taller people. Anonymous says on 5/Jun/10
parva carnis says on 30/May/10
is true there is a new tallest living woman taller than yao defen who doesn't want to be measured?
Where, is it true? parva carnis says on 3/Jun/10
but, if Yao defen dies, who wopuld be the new tallest living woman? Rita says on 2/Jun/10
The article on Defen is misleading:
"However, the life of the tallest woman alive is in danger again. Doctors performed the tomography of her head and discovered that the malignant tumor could start growing again. If it happens, the woman will most likely die."
Note it says COULD start growing again .... IF that happens ..... that doesn't mean it has. And maybe it will. But right now it apparently isn't. mytg8 says on 1/Jun/10
@Mask: what a shame about Defen. parva carnis says on 30/May/10
is true there is a new tallest living woman taller than yao defen who doesn't want to be measured? parva carnis says on 26/May/10
that black basketball player is the new tallest living man in Spaion, he is 1 cm taller than Agustibn Luengo Capilla and only 18cm shorter than the tallest human in spanish history Anonymous says on 24/May/10
parva carnis: Brenden Adams is 14 and has chronic pain, a heart arrythmia, and many more problems. I wouldn't know why you would want him to keep growing. Tall Joey says on 23/May/10
Has anyone else heard about the Bhullar brothers?
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I can't believe that despite being so tall, there parents are only 6 foot 3 and 5 foot 11 aramx says on 23/May/10
Giants of various magnitudes of HUGENESS compared to each other.
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piedro: Margarito Machaguay parva carnis says on 14/May/10
whats your opinion about Trijntje Keever, do dou think she could be taller than Zeng Jinlian?
at that time people was shorter, and rhen was rwally difficult to be so tall, and, in circuses there where many fakes parva carnis says on 13/May/10
Brenden Adams is 2,25m with 12 years? if they would not cure him, he can be the new tallest man at 22
Robert Wadlow was 2,10 at 12 years aramx says on 11/May/10
Anyone what to photoshop a pic of Robert Wadlow (at full height) vs this behemoth? 11'6" short faced bear? Click Here Anonymous says on 11/May/10
Another source where Don Koehler claims he's 8-2 in the early fifties. The Chicago Tall Club claims differently.
I'd say Koehler was tallest in the mid-1970s when he was a guest on TV and Guinness estimated him at 7-10 or so. Since many of the tallest never stop growing, his spinal curvature increased instead of crown-heel height. If you consider curvature like John Carroll, Koehler may have been 8-2 or more. Arj says on 5/May/10
99mvp was voted off the island, Viper disappeared into obscurity. Parachute says on 5/May/10
I haven't been on in a long, long time. Whatever happened to Viper and 99mvp? mask says on 3/May/10
A picture of Parimal Chandra Barman the man from Bangladesh supposed to be 8'6":
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I don't know maybe it can help to estimate his height!
Some sources claim 8 feet for him others 8'3" anyway I think he was close to 8 feet! Rob C says on 3/May/10
There's this basketball player from Serbia or Macedonia who was born in 1989 or 1990 and who is listed between 2,22 m and 2,26 m tall. His name is either Marko Dujkovic or Marko Mercetic. Atlas says on 3/May/10
My answer to the Zhang/Kosen question is wait until GBWR 2011 or 2012, or 2013. . . Gotta sell the next edition!!!!!!!!!!!!
The nutty thing is that Sizonenko has always been taller than Bao. Everybody seems to forget about Sizonenko. In the real world, Zhang or Kosen (whomever is taller) seized the crown from Sizonenko or Uppal- not Bao. Chaz says on 29/Apr/10
the only thing wrong with what you are saying mask is,we do not know what time of day both were measured Zhang and Kosen,but one thing is for sure Zhang needs be be measured laying down like Kosen,because he to cannot stand up to he's full height like Kosen.there both all bukled up. MisterSil says on 29/Apr/10
I completely agree with Mask about Juncai Zhang ssx says on 28/Apr/10
I agree with mask. Why in the world Guiness does not make a big effort to measure Zhang is beyond me. I believe he is truely the tallest. mytg8 says on 28/Apr/10
Regarding those last photos of Wadlow; the pic of him in the truck--notice the young blond boy to his left. That's his baby brother. Looks to be about the same age and size as photos of him and Robert taken in 1938, not 1940. My guess, the pics were not taken on his last appearance. mask says on 28/Apr/10
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A few days back I posted a video of Sultan Kosen being measured on italian tv at 241 cm or 7'11" in thick shoes now if you look at the video above you can see at the very beginning that Juncai Zhang was measured at 242 cm but he was not standing straight and almost barefoot. Zhang Juncai should be about 249 cm or 8'2" tall according to me if officially measured by Guinness! He is indeed the tallest living man in the world today! Don't you think the same thing guys? mytg8 says on 27/Apr/10
Great find Sanchez. Hard to tell if they're really photos from his last appearance. You would think it would be hard to get actual photographs from what must be a defunct photo service, but who knows? They must have at least been very late pics, he sure looks very tall sitting in that truck.
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Pictures of Wadlows last appearance july 4th 1940 on ebay right now check it out Anonymous says on 26/Apr/10
May Walsh 7'6" giantess probably the tallest woman at that time
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Click Here(middle bottom) Chaz says on 25/Apr/10
allso there are not meny photos of wadlow at 8'11''most are taken befor he was that height. Chaz says on 25/Apr/10
Neil,he's dad was 5'11''.and Im sure it was without shoes, he was measured by Professer C.M.Charles a Professer of Anatomy and Dr C.MacBryde on the 15 June 1940 and not just he's height but foot hand bone armspan were measured at the time also he was haveing real problems with he's feet and legs and was haveing to ware a brace,and I have seen one of the Dr's that was seeing him on a old TV prog about Wadlow say that he had lost most of the feeling he's feet,and he could stick a needle in he's toes,and he could not tell,in fact it was the brace rubbing on he's right ankle that caused the blood poisoning that killed him. Neil says on 24/Apr/10
One question I would like to know, was Robert Wadlow measured at 8' 11.1 with shoes or without shoes. Also Roberts Dad does not look 6'0 in any photo ive seen of him, he always looks around the 5'9 to 5'10 mark. Shortneck86 says on 22/Apr/10
The foreign video mask put on, I bet those people got measured with their shoes on. Those people probably gotten taller due to HGH. Mamun says on 17/Apr/10
My friend mask , can you find me that picture of Alam Channa and Chris Greener
or with any other giants that we haven't seen here . I shall be very grateful
if you did !
Thanks
Supermun Compartment says on 16/Apr/10
What about Michelle Wie, that Asian golf player? I heard she took HGH too. She grew way taller than her mom who's 5-7 and is near her dad's height who's around 6-2. chris says on 16/Apr/10
to anonymous - her name is Mari Doartes, she's from Thailand, she's still a teenager and she's about 6 ft 10. Chaz says on 15/Apr/10
It is funny you say that Compartment,there were clames made that the Russian tennis coach who trained Maria Sharapova and other girls was useing it on them,thats why there were so meny over 6 foot girls training there. Anonymous says on 15/Apr/10
There was somebody who mentioned a girl from some foreign country who's about 13 years old and is 6-10 when they measured her on tv. She was tooken off the "World's tallest children", forgot her name. Does she have gigantism or Marfan Syndrome or something, did she die, or was it all just a hoax? I don't think it's normal or even healthy for a person at a such a young age to be that tall. There was some kid from some school who was very tall at 6-11 and he was 16. He just collapsed and died. Taller people are more fragile and even die faster, their hearts just can't keep up with their big bodies. The human body just wasn't built to be that high. Nippu says on 14/Apr/10
At this picture Väinö is about 25 and about 7´7-7´8 tall? We can see he was already quite strong at that time Click Here
He was very famous at his strenght.
Man on his left arm is 5´11 tall. Compartment says on 14/Apr/10
Chaz says on 13/Apr/10
I think the story's of young pituitary giants being very strong are true,because it it not uncommon for there HGH and IGF1 levles to be 100s of times normal,and we know that a lot of sports men strong men and Bodybuilders are useing these drugs,that is why there are so meny 300lbs+ men now with very low body fat,but even they could not take anyway nere the HGH or IGF1 that these giants are making in there bodys.the truble with HGH is makes everything grow and it is very easy so spot the bodybuilders and strong men taking it they have a big muscle gut and low body fat,they have big pokeing out abs,
I bet many women are getting taller by using HGH. Atlas says on 13/Apr/10
Lots of new photos discovered yesterday, including one of a young Cooper!
Start here and look at the next few pages.
Click Here Chaz says on 13/Apr/10
I think the story's of young pituitary giants being very strong are true,because it it not uncommon for there HGH and IGF1 levles to be 100s of times normal,and we know that a lot of sports men strong men and Bodybuilders are useing these drugs,that is why there are so meny 300lbs+ men now with very low body fat,but even they could not take anyway nere the HGH or IGF1 that these giants are making in there bodys.the truble with HGH is makes everything grow and it is very easy so spot the bodybuilders and strong men taking it they have a big muscle gut and low body fat,they have big pokeing out abs, Mamun says on 12/Apr/10
His hands resting on my shoulders scared me myt8 !
Regards
Supermun mytg8 says on 12/Apr/10
There are many stories of pituitary giants who are enormously strong in their youth. Wadlow in his youth carried his father up the stairs. MacAskill and Vaino from Finland and many others. Channa was probably a very powerful man, as strong as anyone, when he was younger before the disease brought him down. Mamun says on 12/Apr/10
Thanks again chaz !
Regards
supermun Chaz says on 11/Apr/10
Mamun you are right,when you get to see real 7'6''+ men in real life you can see how they get away with saying there 8'+.if you see a real 6'6'' guy you say he's very tall,and put him next to a 5'6''and he would make the 5'6''guy look like a midget,put the 6'6'' guy next to a 7'6''and he looks like a midget. chris says on 10/Apr/10
Mamun - Matt McGrory's feet were perfectly normal looking, just much larger than average. Just about everyone has one foot larger than the other. His feet looked just like feet are supposed to look, and one was about 1/2 inch larger than the other, nothing out of the ordinary in that regard. Mamun says on 9/Apr/10
Thanks Chaz ! I am pretty sure there has to be a footage or a picture of
them together . Anyone who finds it is KING ! By the way Chaz , Channa had
also the largest feet of any known man ( Non Pathological ) Normal . Mathew
Macgory's had larger feet but they were not normal ! You see one foot was
larger than the other . But when I met him he looked even taller than 7' 8"!
Please check out the picture if you don't beleive me !
Regards
Supermun Chaz says on 9/Apr/10
Mamun,it was not a pic it was a news report,I think it was about 1992-4,it was after Monjane had died,and he was being measured and he was in London to promote the new GBW as the then world's tallest man,I think they said he was an avarage 7'7.33''and 7'8'' in the morning and the news report showed him in the evening being measured at 7'6.75''If I remmber right there were 3 men clameing to be the tallest man in the world at the time and Guinness had allready measured Gheorghe Muresan at an avarage 7'7'' and Manute Bol at an Avarage 7'6.75'',and at the time Channa looked in good shape and was a bit taller than Greener but there was not much in it,and Greener had a much heigher Hair a bit of Andre type thing.the thing I remmber most was how big Channa was He was much bigger than Greener and he was 28st at the time,I think they said he was 33st thats over 450lbs.a very wide man. mask says on 8/Apr/10
Kakunov Temirbolat (1869-1922) russian giant:
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My friend Chaz , you said you have seen a picture of Chris Greener next to
Channa ? How did he measure up to Channa and I shall be very grateful if
you would kindly post that picture !
Regards
Supermun mytg8 says on 8/Apr/10
Hard to say, Neil. Back a couple years ago when Guinness put Xi in their book as the tallest, China allowed Juncai AND Xi to go to Japan for a TV show. That show clearly showed that Zhang was really taller and publicly humiliated GBR in the process. To do the same thing again (this time with Zosen and Zhang) and possibly come out red-faced again, is not in Guinness' interests. mask says on 8/Apr/10
3 giants from Pakistan:
Click Here chris says on 6/Apr/10
wait a second. the Guinness measurements have ALWAYS been the average of three measurements during one day, morning, mid-day, and night, barefoot or in socks, when laying down. anything else we've seen on video is just for tv and doesn't count for official height calculation. Neil says on 6/Apr/10
It would be nice to see Kosen and Juncai both stood up straight next to each other because without doubt they are the two tallest men in the world. mytg8 says on 5/Apr/10
Don't know about any 'plots', but you do have to tip your hat to Guinness for at least one thing. As with Xishun before, they're taking Sultan for a world tour. They get publicity, he makes some money to bill his bills(which are enormous: pituitary giantism is an insidious disease) and maybe get on with his life. Hell, Xishun did his tour, got enough money to get married and retire to his farm. Grosmont says on 5/Apr/10
That's it! I've had enough of the nonsense here. I'm off to a forum where some serious discussion takes place. Chaz says on 5/Apr/10
Deel,all those Giants you list have been measured by the same people that measured Kosen,so why would there get them right and Kosen wrong ?,
And mytg8 you do not seem to get how he was measured,the 8'1''is he's avarage height of 3 standing up and 3 laying down,your allways taller laying down.than standing up cos the spine spreds out,allso giants of over 7'6''allways lose at least 1.5-3''over the day,so how do you know what time of the day that was filmed ? Kosen looks to me at least as tall has Gabriel Monjane. Deel says on 5/Apr/10
Suparwono's height (2.42 m) is very doubtfoul as well. Deel says on 5/Apr/10
I think we must see Kosen next to a giant whose height we exactly know
(e.g. Neil Fingleton, George Bell, Radhouane Charbib or Bao Xishun). Then we can say if it is a plot against Bao Xishun or Sultan Kosen is really 8 ft 1 in. mytg8 says on 3/Apr/10
Zhang Juncai is every bit as tall as Kosen, i bet; he just balked when he was taken down into the dungeon. GBR will be in contact with him and we'll have a face-off. Just in time for the 2011 edition. mytg8 says on 3/Apr/10
Nice video about Kosen, Deel. Good close-up of the Guinness rep measuring Kosen (in his special shoes) at about 242 cm. My Windows calculator says that 242 cm. is equal to 7.9396325459317585301837270341207 feet.
So there we have it. Kosen is less than 8 feet(7 feet 11.27559055118110236220472440944 inches to be exact) when wearing those padded shoes and so barefoot he's about 7-10, like I said last year.
I have some information from a 'someone in the know' that Guinness' Ministry of Marketing took Sultan to the Tower of London, put him on the rack, got him over 8 ft. in time for the printing of the 2010 GBR. Grosmont says on 2/Apr/10
Neil, please read my last posting. So you graciously concede that Kosen is over 8 feet tall. Well, that's damned decent of you, and now we can all relax, as we know the truth. Of course he's over 8 feet. We already know this because he was measured by Guinness. Or do you believe they are liars. If so, prove it. Sheesh! Deel says on 1/Apr/10
Kösen is 8 ft 1 in tall. I believe Craig Glenday. He is
not a fraud or a liar. Kösen is without a doubt taller than
Bao Xishun. The era of Bao Xishun as the tallest man is
definetely over.
Click Here and look at
20 seconds.
I don't why many people have problems that Kösen is the
tallest living man according Guinness.
Although I still belive like the most people here that
Zhang Juncai is the tallest man. Neil says on 1/Apr/10
There is no question anymore after watching the video of kosen with the italain basketball player he is definitely over 8ft tall. Chaz says on 1/Apr/10
I am with you Grosmont,there is no way Guinness have not measured Kosen at an avearage 8'1''over the day.and Big Show,you can say the same about Chris Greener He allways measures up better next to other giants Ive seen him next to Channa,Sandy Allan, Hussain Bisad,and he look just as tall,in fact there is a pic of Bisad standing on tiptoes to make himself look taller than Greener and Carabib only looked like he had 1''on him,and he look at least 2''taller than Shawn Bradley.but the reason for a lot of this is Carabib,Allan and Bisad had back hip leg and other problems this reduced there standing height.unlike Greener who was in good shape for meny years,and Bradley was more likely only 7'6''in hes shoes if that,and Don't forget greener was allmost 7'7''in the morning,and over that in he's shoes.
Kosan looks a good foot taller than that Gino Cuccarolo to me. Grosmont says on 31/Mar/10
I am puzzled by the way people say, yes, they think Kosen really is 8 feet something. I don't THINK anything about it. Until there is reason to do otherwise, I accept the Guinness measurement. Unless we believe they are deliberate liars and frauds, that's what we have to do. Their failings in the past have been accepting claims too casually when they have not themselves done a measurement. If they do a proper measurement we must, as I say, consider it true unless and until proved otherwise. MisterSil says on 31/Mar/10
Tonino Fuss is 2,20 and still alive Big Show says on 30/Mar/10
mask says on 28/Mar/10
The tallest man in Italy at 220 cm Gino Cuccarolo with Sultan Kosen:
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and:
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as you can see at the end of the video his standing height with shoes is about 241 cm or 7'11" while his average height is 246,5 cm as we know so given that Juncai Zhang standing height is 242 without shoes as you can see in more than one video I guess with straight back and legs he would be about 248/250 cm or 8'2" so definitely I think he is the world tallest man indeed!
An old 221cm tops Rob Bruintjes measured up way better next to Sultan Kosen than that 220cm baskeball player is doing. If Kosen is 7'11" in shoes, I would say the other guy is 6'11" in shoes. He looks a headsize smaller than Kosen and Kosen's head is probably 12 inches long (maybe even more, considering he's 8 feet tall).
Juncai Zhang was measured 242 cm in shoes aswell on that Japanese tv-show. Rob C says on 29/Mar/10
Patrick Hogan of New Zealand is 7'5" tall and considered the tallest man of that country. Rob C says on 29/Mar/10
What about Tonino Fuss? Is he still alive or he is no longer 2,20 m tall? I have even seen his height listed at 7'4" and also at 2,26 m. mask says on 28/Mar/10
The tallest man in Italy at 220 cm Gino Cuccarolo with Sultan Kosen:
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and:
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as you can see at the end of the video his standing height with shoes is about 241 cm or 7'11" while his average height is 246,5 cm as we know so given that Juncai Zhang standing height is 242 without shoes as you can see in more than one video I guess with straight back and legs he would be about 248/250 cm or 8'2" so definitely I think he is the world tallest man indeed! chris says on 26/Mar/10
mask - WOW, she certainly looks 7 foot or really close, unless the woman she's with is very short. any more info on her? more video, photos, news articles? I don't understand the language, any reference to shoe size? mask says on 25/Mar/10
Babita 7 foot tall indian woman:
Click Here Skyhook says on 24/Mar/10
Yo Mask
who is that 7 foot 4 Kenyan Giant ? name?
and does he play basketball? Grosmont says on 22/Mar/10
Here is an example of the casual approach of jounalists to measurements and sizes. The UK Daily Telegraph (no a mere tabloid)carried a report of an Australian man who was attacked by a kangaroo while jogging. This came, says the article, a year after a nine-foot kangaroo invaded a house, terrorising the occupants. Then, in the very next sentence, it refers to "the 2 metre high animal". Alas, nobody at the Telegraph bothered to do the arithmetic! mask says on 22/Mar/10
I don't know who is this:
Click Here(5:13) Grosmont says on 19/Mar/10
Is this forum, or is it not, a discussion of GIANTS? Shortlegs says on 19/Mar/10
Just don't ask her. Some people don't feel comfortable telling their problems to other people. Coke Machine says on 17/Mar/10
Shortlegs, that lady I met in Leeds with black hair who was 6ft 6in - 6ft 7in told me her dad was 5ft 11in, her mum was 5ft 7in and her younger sister 5ft 4in. Her parents weren't short, and were slightly above average height, but weren't exceptionally tall. Her name is Ann. I don't want to get too prying by asking "How did you get to be so tall?", because she might not answer or could even tell me where to go! Shortlegs says on 16/Mar/10
Coke Machine says on 18/Feb/10
No, that woman I met in Leeds who was 6ft 6in with black hair was wearing flat shoes and I was wearing ordinary shoes, and the top of my head reached the end of her nose, and we were both stood up straight, and that was the height of her parents... she told me... I don't know if she was suffering from gigantism or not... she might have just inherited the genes of a very tall ancestor from way back.... she was at least 6ft 6in...
If her parents aren't really tall, then that lady shouldn't be that tall, though I think it's possible that she might've inherited that stature from an ancestor, but I doubt it. People usually inherit their parents heights. She could most likely have a hormonal disorder or possibly had foods that had HGH on it. Though some people don't wanna discuss their problems with others. But you can ask her, Coke Machine, if you want to, if you ever bump into her again. But not sure if she wants to talk about it. mask says on 16/Mar/10
Who the hell is this?
Click Here chris says on 16/Mar/10
worlds shortest man He Ping Ping dies in Italy a few days ago mask says on 14/Mar/10
P Theyagarjan the indian eating champion with 6'1" Dale Boone:
Click Here
Click Here mask says on 10/Mar/10
Boxerwhiteray that is a site with a lot of "old new" articles like this:
Click Here
on the top right if you want all of you guys can search for "tallest man" or "tallest woman" for example and find a lot of "old" news!
Like this other one:
Click Here
help me finding! Grosmont says on 10/Mar/10
Funnily enough, Boxer, that news item seems to concern another giantess of uncertain nationality. "Fraulein Griselda" doesn't sound very Hungarian! I'm not even aware what the Hungarian word for "Fraulein" would be. Rita says on 9/Mar/10
Grosmont: The Discovery and Discovery Health channels are American and have done stories on Defen, including hospital footage when they were testing her for her tumor. Where in the GBR did Guinness say she "pulled out" of being measured? Or was that info from somewhere else? Surely the impoverished Defen knows that being in the GBR would probably bring her monetary sources and attention to her health issues, so why would she pull out? This is all speculation, of course. I found this interesting story about her fall last April ..... scroll wayyyy down to the very last comment where the story was posted by a reader: Click Here Grosmont says on 9/Mar/10
Boxer - brilliant! How odd that it should be a German source that supplies this item. I rather doubt that her first name was Abomah, though. The fashion for exotic names is a fairly recent one among black Americans. Of course it's just an assertion on that German site. How do they KNOW her name was Grigsby?
Rita, I don't think you're quite fair to Guinness. They said specifically that it was Defen herself who pulled out of arrangements for measurement. And as I've said several times before, China isn't England or France, or even Turkey. After all, at the present it isn't so very easy to enter the USA, is it? Are those TV companies British or American? I doubt it. Rita says on 8/Mar/10
Chris: I'm sure of Defen had passed on we would know about it. Other than that. no clue. Perhaps they are "searching" to see if there's someone taller than Defen claims to be, since Guinness somehow can't manage to get to measure her, even tho the companies doing TV documentaries can find her...... Anonymous says on 8/Mar/10
More on Conrad Furrows:
Click Here chris says on 7/Mar/10
I would ABSOLUTELY insist that Guinness measure whomever is claiming to be tallest, whether it's defen or someone else, just like I'd demand they weigh anyone claiming to be heaviest, or measure the person claiming the largest feet, hands, longest legs, etc.... Grosmont says on 7/Mar/10
No, Boxer, but it does open up possibilities, and we need to know what "evidence" there is for the name Grigsby. Jamie says on 7/Mar/10
Shortened life span in very tall people is multi-factorial. There is a long established link between tall stature and sensory autonomic neuropathy particularly in long limbed individuals - human axons aren't designed like those of a giraffe. Circulation tends be poorer in taller people and fatter people because there is more blood to pump. Pituitary gigantism complicates matters because very high levels of insulin-like growth factor increase the risk of developing diabetes (and therefore both nerve and circulatory damage)and in rat studies it has been demonstrated that cancerous tumours develop faster under the influence of IGF.
Pituitary gigantism and acromegaly are certainly not states I would wish on anyone; congenital tall stature is different but equally it is empirically demonstrable that stature outside of 2sds of the mean for a human population is a statistically significant risk factor (p<0.001) for a dramatically shortened life span. The human body is designed for a 'golden mean' in terms of stature - and whilst individuals will always fall outside that mean, those at the extreme edges are sufficiently rare for evolution not to have caught up. Neurons for example, are more likely to have evolved for a body of 160cm than 300cm.
I'm not trying to say people are right or wrong, but based on clinically available evidence, we would expect a pituitary linked giant like Wadlow to have a severely limited lifespan without frequent medical intervention. For 'genetic' giants (I dislike the term as it's misleading but I'll go with it) we have so few who have attained close to 8 feet it is harder to say what the evidence could tell us, except that after 186cm, lifespan decreases at an accelerating rate based on large scale population studies. Pubmed is a good place to start researching this area. Grosmont says on 6/Mar/10
Chris, your second possibility is the answer, as was made plain some time ago. In the 2010 Guinness Book of Records it was stated that attempts had been made to arrange a measurement session for Defen, but without success. They did say she was "reported" to be of world-beating height. As I've said before, we can't castigate Guinness for accepting Stadnyk's claimed height from hearsay, and then ask them to do the same with Defen. Anonymous says on 5/Mar/10
What will Guinness do about Defen. Will they assume she still has feet, like they assume normal spine curvature? chris says on 5/Mar/10
Rita - to me, this says one of three things....that Defen has passed on...or that she was never confirmed by Guinness....or that they believe there is a taller woman than Defen somewhere in existence... any ideas? Grosmont says on 5/Mar/10
Boxer, on page 2 of the Quasi-Modo piece you linked, is the remark I mentioned, that there was evidence her name was Grigsby. |
