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Greg said on 9/Dec/18
@Sakz @Csimpson6ft I personally believe tallish starts at 5’10.5 afternoon for a person to end the day at 5’10.75” surely they would be tall and identical to a flat 5’11 if they woke up around 5’11.5” more or less.
@Canson I’m 23, he’s 41, That was my dads first child with his ex wife. He had him when he was 29 and if my dad was alive today he would be 70. Honestly not sure if I did outgrow him as I’m just guessing I haven’t seen him in 10 years and the last time I remember he was taller than my dad who was probably down to 5’9 range after being about 5’10.75/5’11” peak and he was slightly taller which is why I’m estimating him to be over 5’10 but by how much is debatable haha. I definetly have better proportions than him.
@Csimpson6ft unfortunately I don’t have a photo of me standing next time him as I’ve not seen him in person since I was like 8 years old or so and at the time I was probably like 3 foot range or something like that. But here’s a photo of him with 5’10.75” listed Seth Meyers he actually looks like he is getting edged out even though the angle isn’t the best. Click Here also I asked him how tall he thought Seth was he said 5’9 😒 so go figure. He claims to be 6’1 and when I called him out he said “ okay I’m 6 foot” I said no you’re not because I seen a photo of him with a 6’1 listed male model who was probably just over 6’0 and he looks around 2 inches and change smaller.
Bobby 5'10 said on 9/Dec/18

Greg is 23, not 24-25. I'm the one who's 24 though.
Csimpson6ft said on 9/Dec/18
@Sandy Cowell i hope you are enjoying your weekend too! 👍
Dream(5'9.5") said on 8/Dec/18
There was a former neighbor of mine who was extremely tall.

My mom thought he was 6’9”. (He isn’t. The Chinese guy, who looks like me, is visibly taller.) My dad thought he was 6’4”-6’5”. (I didn’t believe him because the former neighbor was clearly much taller than that in person.
In fact, in several glances up close in person, the former neighbor would be too well over 6’5”. I’m sure of it.)

I would’ve thought the neighbor similar to peak Dennis Rodman or Daniel Cudmore, seeing him in person. The guy was in flat flipflops.

i didn’t believe 6’9”, but 6’4” is too ridiculous. Only way he would measure that is if one sawed off his feet with a chainsaw.

It’s hard to say if he was slightly taller than peak Dennis Rodman.
Sakz said on 8/Dec/18
@Csimpson6ft You're spot on with that. I also think 5'10.75 is enough to be classified as 'tallish' since it's going to look virtually identical to someone 5'11.
Sakz said on 8/Dec/18
@Canson At times people just have a poor perception of height. They see a tall man or woman and will generally guess them higher. The more taller you are than another person the harder it usually is for them to judge your height. Then of course while out and about footwear factors into it so they go by that.
Sakz said on 8/Dec/18
@179cm Yeah true inflating is when you add on additional height to rounding so basically a height you don't measure at any point.
Canson said on 8/Dec/18
@Greg: wow he’s a lot older than you? You’re like 24-25 right? And you outgrew him lol
Csimpson6ft said on 8/Dec/18
@Greg do you have a photo of you with your brother? yeah I don't mind guessing his height, if you have one of you standing next to him that would be easier, yeah send it when you have the time.
Csimpson6ft said on 8/Dec/18
@Bobby possibly around that or 5'5.5-5'5.75, but from looking at him he didn't look like someone who was at peak 6'1.

And yeah someone at your height in my eyes would be classed as above average height, but imo I would say tallish could start at 5'10.75, and I would also say that you're not legitimately tall until you're 6'0, to me anything under like 5'10.75 to 5'11.75 falls in the tallish category but again this is just my opinion.
Sandy Cowell said on 7/Dec/18
@ Connor - It's great to see you back! I hope you're enjoying the build-up to Christmas; I am! It's my favourite part! Have a great weekend. 😀👍🎄
Greg said on 7/Dec/18
@Csimpson6ft that’s a cheeky inflation I understand if you where close to 6’1 peak or something but if you’re nowhere near it why lie like that? Somebody Robs height or even shorter trying to say 6’1, I’m just a fraction over 6’0 in my boots or exactly 6’0 depending on the time of day and I catch so many people frauding. Soon I’m goijg to link a few photos of my brother and see how tall you guys estimate him to be? He is also 41 so he hasn’t lost any height yet. Personally 6’1 is out of the equation and so is 6’0, 5’11 might be debatable but I think I would edge him out in person likely by a fraction. I’m guessing around 5’10ish if that.
Bobby said on 7/Dec/18

That's strange, so he was 5'6? There's no way a 6'1 guy at his peak can lose 5 inches naturally unless he had severe injuries to his back and they had to take out his spinal discs or something and replace it with titanium ones. The shortest a 6'1 guy could be naturally in his old age would be 5'11 flat, but even just a solid 6'0 is also realistic. I'm beginning to think now that my dad was 5'10-5'11 peak height and somehow fooled my mom into thinking he was 6'0-6'1 because he's no more than 5'7-5'8 right now. Maybe during the 80s, a 5'10-5'11 guy could be called tall, but nowadays he's more in that above average height category but not necessarily tallish unless he's 5'11.5.

I get called tall at 5'10, so go figure.
Canson said on 7/Dec/18
@Greg: a lot of guys do it in person. My wife has been inflated and she has a female friend whos 5’11” range. Her friend pointed it out one night when we were out that guys tell her she’s 6’1” or even 6’2”. She got measured for sure and said she’s close to 5’11 1/2. I reckon 5’11 3/8. She claims 5’11”. She looks about 5” shorter than me so she isn’t far off a low. She told me that guys will say that she is either in denial or she doesn’t know how tall she actually is or “she is taller than she gives herself credit for”. I have heard people tell people that they’re taller than they give themselves credit for before and look at them and they look about their claim maybe in some cases they round down but otherwise it’s pretty accurate
Csimpson6ft said on 7/Dec/18
@Greg now that you mention it, yesterday I was on the bus going into town and there was a guy talking to someone about his height and he claimed that he used to be 6'1 and said that he's 5'8 now, talk about a big inflation, that's 5 inches!. I really doubt anyone can lose that much height and he didn't look that old, he was probably in his late 50's.

But to me he didn't look like he had the proportions of a 6'1 guy, he doesn't even look anywhere near 5'8 either but maybe at his peak though or not far off at the very least, but when I saw him he looked more like 5'5.5-5'6, I was 6'1.25 while wearing my Nike Air force ones and his eyes seemed like they were at my neck area or slightly a bit lower down.

It really is crazy how much people inflate their heights! You don't get that many people who are honest about their heights nowadays, not in my experience anyway.
Myself said on 6/Dec/18
Luca, 3 pollici sono equivalenti a 7.62 cm. Quindi se il tizio a destra è veramente 188, quello a sinistra dovrebbe essere almeno 181 cm (5 piedi, 11 pollici e un quarto di un pollice) preciso.
James Edward Crowley said on 6/Dec/18
Rob what's the biggest growth spurt you have heard,I watched a video on Youtube there was a basketball player who grew 15 inches,he went from 5ft 9in to 7ft 1in that's a lot of height to gain in a short amount of time your body would be a lot of pain from growing that much your legs would just explode.
Editor Rob
That sounds an extreme growth spurt...
josh b said on 6/Dec/18
Rob, maybe you could make a video on how you put the lines detailing height difference on youtube, there seems a few questions about them on here?
Editor Rob
It is something I should do at one point.
Timothy Andrew Sarkar said on 6/Dec/18
Hey Rob im pretty sure im at least 6'3 in shoes walking around but i feel a bit shorter, like around 186 cm when walking around. Maybe i have a different than average eye level/head shape?( hard to get measurement of eye level when looking in the mirror). However my doorway is around 6'4-6'5 and i feel pretty close to it, so maybe my perception is just off when around taller people? What do you think Rob?
Editor Rob
It could be a lower eyelevel or you naturally hold your head down (making your eyes lower).

Also I'm sure some people have differences in how they interpret objects that are an inch taller or smaller.
Greg said on 5/Dec/18
@179cm of course it’s easy to inflate your height online but this isn’t limited to only that but also in person many guys inflate themselves.
179cm said on 4/Dec/18
Dream(5'9.5") said on 16/Nov/18
I have a feeling that ‘most’ guys (bodybuilding forums) are inflating their height.

I wouldn't be surprised. There's certainly a lot of narcissism on that site.

JamesB172cm said on 22/Nov/18
I have a friend who is 5ft11.75 that claims 6ft2 1/2

That's a big inflation. There would be nothing wrong with just claiming 6'0" when you're 5'11.75", but adding on more height after rounding up is false.
Sean william Winter said on 4/Dec/18
HEY ROB i weigh around only 79 kg. my waist is 92 cm?? 36 inches i remember my waist was 34 at one time. normal???
Editor Rob
36 isn't a slim waist for your height, but then it's common. 31-2 would be slim 33-6 probably covers a fair range, 38 and over larger.
Bobby 5'10 said on 4/Dec/18

They're Italian? You could have fooled me, they don't look Italian. But they look perhaps 2 inches apart if the other guy straightens up. Maybe he's 6'0 next to him.
Luca said on 4/Dec/18
Sorry Rob, but I didn't understand what you meant in my last post... Who do you think is taller between the two guys? Since I'm Italian, could you express in cms your guess on the one on the left?
Editor Rob
The guy on the right could be 3 inches taller.
Nik said on 4/Dec/18
@ Jake the Snake - I like your name!
Luke Au said on 3/Dec/18
Thanks for the replies @Rob and @Greg.

I’m just going to hope for the best, the way I am trying to make myself see it is that I will only know if I will reach a certain height when/if I do. I have decided to stop measuring myself until my 18th birthday. That way I can see if any real changes occur. The only reason I am slightly hopeful of reaching 6ft at this point is because I think I was a late bloomer, meaning I am more likely to grow between 18-21 paired with the genetics/history of my family on both sides. It’s impossible for me to know for sure, so I guess it is a waiting game.
Canson said on 3/Dec/18
@French Guy: in the States, 180 and 183 are underestimated. A lot of people at 183 claim an inch or two taller. I’ve even seen a 6’0” guy claim 6’3” before. 5’9 is about average for a male in the US whereas in Europe where you live maybe not. 190 is also underestimated as many guys that size get guessed at 6’4 in good footwear. A height like 6’0” while not rare by any means is above average very comfortably
Luca said on 3/Dec/18
Dear Rob, I've never asked you about these two Italian characters, so I want to show you the following Pic to know what you think about it.
The guy on the right is a young sportsman, listed at 188 cm, while the man on the left is a famous showman.

Click Here

According to their different posture and their different distance from The camera, what's your guess on the man on the left?
Editor Rob
I'd be surprised if there was any less than 3 inches between them, possibly a bit more as it's a decent lean, not like a half inch lean or anything, more like a couple of inches.
Jake the Snake said on 3/Dec/18
Hey Rob I've recently been getting my height and weight checked on a machine at my local tesco it takes a 50 pence piece and is called photo me. Both times I've used it has give me a height of 171cm or 5ft7.3 but when I measure myself I'm within a fraction of 173cm on a stadiometer. My question is should I take the stadiometer meter reading of a low 5ft 8 or the machines 5ft 7 reading ? Which measurement do you think would be closer to my true height ? Lowest ive had on the stadiometer is 172.5cm which I believe is 5ft7 3/4 and that was after 10 hours awake and is my evening height. Is me claiming my height as 5ft 7 1/2 underlisting ? Or even maybe claiming 5ft7 3/4 ? Which of these claims makes most sense to you Rob ? Who knows as I age I may shrink to a flat 5ft 7 being only in my early 20s perhaps thats a long way off.
Editor Rob
There could be more margin of error with the Photo Me machine...I would always go with a tape measure measurement first, because you have the time to double or triple check on different walls.
Bobby 5'10 said on 3/Dec/18

It looks disportionate, that's why. A woman that's taller than a man looks weird.
Nik said on 28/Nov/18
@ Jdc - I don't get why you think it is necessary for men in their ordinary shoes to be taller than ladies who wear high heels. A lot of women in the world are taller when barefooted than a lot of men in their barefeet, I really don't think that it matters. I find it a very ordinary occurrence to see a woman who is a at least as tall as her male partner!
Canson said on 28/Nov/18
@Dream: at 5’9 3/8 at a low you really could go a bunch of ways with that. You could claim 5’9.5 (you’d prob be rounded to 5’10 often) or could claim 5’9”. Chances are if you claimed 5’9 you would be told you’re at least 5’10 just because shorter guys would tend to inflate more often and you would probably fall prey to that. You may even be told 5’11” often as well. The 3/8-5/8” range is always tough to quantify just because you’ll get an honest 5’10” or strong 5’10 who claims 5’10 even if they’re 5’10.25 like Blazer or Arthur. Even at 5’9 5/8 if someone claims 5’10 and is 5’9.25 you may be told you’re 5’9 sometimes or 5’9.5. 5’9.5 is the most logical for this range but because the half isn’t used properly, it’s always rounded up. I almost wish measurements were in centimeters and that the time of the day were consistent for everyone. Then it would be easier to determine what the next person is and how you look against them to a T
Bego said on 28/Nov/18
At my temporary work place there is one 173 guy, one 178-180 guy althought he left, one 180-182 guy, one 190 guy, two 190 guys and one 196cm guy. I guess i blend it averagely. The reason why i say 178-180 for example is people tend to look both taller and shorter but i havent really stood right next to them directly to compare. Im 184/185 btw.
AndrewV said on 28/Nov/18

This is a a pretty good chart but I would change the start of tall to 183cm with 182cm being above average.

Are these ranges based on evening or midday height?
french guy 183 cm said on 28/Nov/18
i think the two most overstimated height are 180 cm and 183 cm, two mean height in Europe while many people think it's tall.
The most underrated height is 190 cm while it's almost perfect.
Zampo said on 28/Nov/18

I think what you've described will definitely get you to near your lowest. It's difficult to say because it depends on ones lifestyle. Ones lifestyle determines what their extreme low is.

For instance, I had a training (boxing) earlier in the week. A session typically includes: warm-up (10 mins skipping and some body exercises in between and then three 2 minute rounds of shadow boxing, then probably about seven 3 minute consecutive rounds (30 secs in between) of actual boxing/sparring and finish up with 5 sets of 5 pulls ups on the bar and 3 sets of 20 sit-ups. Now measuring after this, I would be typically about 1/8 of an inch lower in height than if measuring after the type of day you described.

Now you may measure a little lower than 5'9 3/8 if you undertook such activity but it doesn't really matter if it's not part of your lifestyle as you would never have the opportunity to experience it. I actually consider myself to retain height well over the course of the day but there is around a 7 mm difference in my end of day height between a day where I may be mostly indoors (relaxed day) and one were I have trained pretty hard.
Guru Guy said on 28/Nov/18
@Sakz I wear shoes with some lift in it so I am 6'3.25 ish. 6'1.25-1.75 is how tall I probably would appear to people walking around in the shoes, so I get an extra inch or so
Guru Guy said on 28/Nov/18
@Sakz I wear shoes with some lift in it so 6'1.25-1.75 is how tall I probably would appear to people walking around in the shoes.
Guru Guy said on 28/Nov/18
Hey Rob I measured myself against wall at 6'3.25 ish in shoes but in front of mirror my eye level looked around 178.5-179 range, the middle of my forehead was around 184 cm, and just below my hairline was 186 cm. Is this possible?
F97 said on 28/Nov/18
Rob if 163cm Comes up to the top of someones lip how tall would that person be? Thanks Rob!
Editor Rob
I would expect them to be at least 181cm
Zampo said on 28/Nov/18

I've probably mentioned this before but your height chart is spot on for the typical urban city in the UK. That 176-178.5 cm range is probably the most common I see on a daily basis.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 28/Nov/18
I did my latest measurement. I woke up at 11:22 am and I measured myself around 1:05 am (after 13-14 hours of being active all day) I was still 5’9 3/8ths” (5’9.375”), barefooted...AGAIN!

No missed measurements. I had glasses on, and I was barefoot. Before anyone thinks I’m making up the story about being active all day: (I was active for the entire day. I drove myself to see my parents. I went with my mom to request something important for college), and I drove her back home. Then, I drove to my rehearsal, briefly ran to the building of the rehearsal with my orchestra (a university’s orchestra). I practiced there for two hours. We were preparing for a concert tomorrow. Finally, I drove back again. After more hours of house chores, I took a damn shower, which flattened my hair. After that, I immediately grabbed my measuring tape, and I measured myself at roughly 5’9.375”.)

Rob, would 13-14 hours be an extreme low if one was active all day?
Canson said on 27/Nov/18
@Jdubbz: Posture has a lot to do with it. I’ve seen a friend who is 6’6” and his posture not as good as it once was (at least at times) stand next to me or in front of me and he can appear maybe an inch taller than me or less. He can stand straight still and hit 198—98.5 tho. He has developed back problems as well
Greg said on 27/Nov/18
@Luke Au hey man I’m glad you also have an obsession with height just like me, I wouldn’t worry too much about it as you’re on your final year of growth the amount of men that reach anything between 18-20 is small. While not impossible though, the majority of guys finished around 18. If your dad is 6’0, you might have a chance of reaching a solid 5’11 if not the full 6’0, seeing as you’re close to 5’11 at 17. Yeah my great uncle was 6’6 and my dad was always saying I looked like him and that he was worried I would get super tall but I didn’t even hit 6’0 alas lol. But just keep eating healthy sleep well and hope for the best!
@178.7 at 19 well 6’1 isn’t a major difference between 5’10.5” that’s probably all in your head for me I could tell if a guys 6’2 or 6’4 and it doesn’t seem they are even taller but the same goes for shorter guys guessing you taller as my friend who’s around 5’3 asked me if I got taller? Because it seemed like I did to him.
Ben said on 27/Nov/18
I did a video showing my proportions. Feel free to check it out! Click Here
Emil said on 27/Nov/18
For some reason, I usually measure 1 cm shorter with my back against the wall as opposed to facing it with my front. Is there an explanation for this?
Editor Rob
Either the floor has a slight slope or you are impeding your stance when putting your bum/shoulders (or some their head) against the wall.

Also one other possibility is the object moving slightly while turning around.
C.J Camp said on 26/Nov/18
Absolutely agree on that one Rob. The higher up you are, the more people over-estimate. For instance, I have a friend who visited from Germany who is the only person I’ve seen taller than me in person. He’s a strong 6’10” at 209 cm. He told me that everyone that meets him guesses him as 7’1” plus. A few people said he “had to at least be 7’3 or 7’4...” However when I first met him, I was a little shocked to see someone taller than me for the first time, but it was obvious to both of us that there was no more than 2” between us. He was just as surprised to see me as I was him! It is funny how shorter people perceive things. I think what also has to do with it is so many people “exaggerating” their own height by 2-3". I know many men in the actual 6’0 – 6’2” range who literally claim 6’3 - 6’5! They tell me I’m downplaying my height because I tower them by 6 to 8 inches, and then they tell other people about me: “C.J’s actually 7’0, but he’s not comfortable with it so he claims 6’8..” :^/ Right… Oh well, it is what it is! haha :D
Ben said on 26/Nov/18
Yeah I also would've guessed him around 5'7" with the shoes on. But according to the site it is 173cm tall which I find really hard to believe. I could pretty much see over the statues head.

Click Here
QM6'1QM said on 26/Nov/18
Goel174.4cm said on 25/Nov/18

For young white guys somewhere between 5'9.25 "-5'10.25", no more. If the guy is 5'11, he will feel comfortable above average, but not as high as in the case of 6ft +. In any case, I can honestly say that most of the young guys are noticeably shorter than me and I would rate the range of 174-179 cm as the place where there will be an average height. Something more - above average. Something less - below average/ kinda short. I have already written here my growth chart / graph and want to repeat it:
* 173-175.5 cm - a weak average level.
* 176-178.5 cm - solid / strong average height.
* 179-181.5 cm - above average.
* 182-184.5 cm - quite tall (the start of tall).
* 185-187.5 cm - solid / strong tall height.
* 188-190.5 cm - really tall (the end of the tall range).
* 191 cm + is very tall for a guy.
Colberto said on 26/Nov/18
Rob what listing would this man get
If you posed with him at 173cm you’d be up to the tip of his nose
His eye level is about 5’9”
The top of his lips 5’7”
5’10” is his eyebrows
5’11” is an inch above the eye brows or about 2cm
5’11 1/2” person is about halfway up their forehead
Based on his proportions
Editor Rob
He could be very close to 6ft 2
Jdubbz said on 26/Nov/18
@Rob I noticed something very strange today. I managed to hit my low (6'4.25) only 1.5 hours out of bed! It's not like I was doing any strenuous activities either. I just took a shower and walked my dog for half an hour. Any idea what could have caused something like that to happen? I didn't drop any lower for the rest of the day.
Editor Rob
That's a very fast drop-off...I mean I could get down to my low if I was doing a job for 3-4 hours, but walking about for 2 I'd still shrink another 1/4 or 1/3rd. I can't explain that one.
178,7 at 19 said on 26/Nov/18
I feel okay with guys 2 inches taller than me, but from 6ft1 and taller I feel towered...

I have a 6’4 friend who I thought he was like 6’6 he seemed freakishly tall, that doesn’t happen with 6’2 guys even though they are just two inches...
Jdubbz said on 26/Nov/18

6'4 is approximately the 99th percentile where I live, so it makes sense that about 1 in 100 guys you saw was that height.
Jdubbz said on 26/Nov/18
@CJ Camp: I'm 194cm and even I would have no idea how tall you are if I saw you in public. Seeing someone nearly 4 inches taller than me is so unusual.
Jdubbz said on 26/Nov/18
@Christian: You'd be surprised, some people have absolutely no concept of height. My 4'11 cousin guessed me at 6'2 and 6'6 the same day.
Luke Au said on 26/Nov/18
Hi Rob, I also have a height obsession. I have a few questions relating to me and would be extremely grateful if you could help me out.

I am 5"10 1/2 sometimes up to 5"10 3/4 in the morning when I measure, I don't have a stadiometer so I mark up against a doorframe. I am 17 years old and determined to reach 6"0 or more! I have heard that swimming, basketball and running play a role in maximizing height gain, paired with a good diet and the right amount of sleep. I am pretty sure I am still growing, I think I hit puberty on the later side of the range as at 17 I've only just started to grow the small fine beginnings of a beard and I don't think I am fully grown. Pretty much all men on my mums and dads sides of the family are between 6"0 and 6"4. My mum is around 5"6 and my dad is around 6"0, however, I have an identical build and share a lot of features with my uncle who is 6"3 and I am constantly compared to him. My mum seems to recall my Dad growing 2-3 inches between 18-20 and my nan thinks that my uncle kept on growing into his twenties.

Sorry to bombard you with all this information, but do you think it is possible for me to reach 6"0,
Thanks in advance :)
Editor Rob
From what you say, I think the odds are decent. I think if you continue with some sort of fitness routine, it will help. There are still a healthy chunk of teenagers who gain from 17-20.
Sakz said on 26/Nov/18
@Timothy Andrew Sarkar I remember you saying you were 6'0.5 not long ago unless you're referring to a shoe height?

@QM6'1QM Wow that's not a lot and even from my experience where I live 6'4 isn't common so at 6'1 you feel solid tall while out and about. Where do you live?
Zampo said on 26/Nov/18

So how do you feel when you see a 5'11-6'0 range people have have "near perfect" aesthetic looks with great dress sense, confidence etc. Would you feel "inferior"? From what you have written, I think your feelings of "inferiority/insecurity" go beyond just height itself.
Ben said on 25/Nov/18
Hey Rob so apparently this statue of Tom Holland is 5'8" tall Click Here . When I saw it person it looked no more than 5'7". They also said that statue of Gal Gadot was a little over 6'1" but the statue had no more than half an inch on me. The also said the Harley Quinn statue was 5'11" but I had a good 1.5 inches on it...hmm... I will get pictures of the statues next time. The only legit statue seemed to be the Batman statue that was a strong 6'3" in person with the boots.
Editor Rob
That statue might be nearer 5ft 7-7.5 than 8!
Canson said on 25/Nov/18
@Greg: that was very well said and very insightful! I completely agree. I was just making a point about the situation if you two actually met in person that there would be no difference whatsoever. Honestly, if you were in front of a guy claiming 5’11 that is 5’10.5 at a low you would see absolutely nothing same as if you were in front of a guy who is 5’10 claiming 5’10. At 5’10.25-.5 you would look no different than Arthur
QiuTV said on 25/Nov/18
I think 186cm or 6 foot 1,25 is the beginn of solid tall. A tall where everybody will agree with you being tall
Sakz said on 25/Nov/18
@Jdc It's possible you may be focusing more on the taller people than those who are shorter, causing you to come to the conclusions you have. Of course you won't be very tall at your height but you should be tall enough that you edge out a a fairly high percentage of people you see. (especially while say walking down the street).
Greg said on 25/Nov/18
@James-186cm your height is ideal I would take your height in a heart beat at that height you will be 6’2 in shoes and will be seen as a tall guy everywhere you went.
@Christian 6’5 3/8ths my eye level is similar to yours 4.5-4.7 perhaps and my friends not too sure. He does have a bigger head than me just a 1.5 inch difference isn’t a lot. My head is probably 9.5 inches or maybe slightly over that.
C.J Camp said on 25/Nov/18
Thanks for your reply Rob. I feel like that 6'8' is a reasonable claim for me. It's funny that you mention people guessing my height. 95% people think I'm taller than that, I mostly get guessed anywhere from 6'10" to 7'. Even as ridiculous as 7'2 a couple of times. Everywhere I go people ask me my height and I tell them, they act disappointed that I'm "only" 6'8." I think it may have to do with the fact that I have a very large frame with broad shoulders, combined with granddaddy-long legs.
Editor Rob
For every inch above 6ft, I'm sure the percentage of people who notice a taller person's height increases, as will how often the subject of it comes up in conversation.

Also once you get into extremely tall range maybe 6ft 7-8, it would be no surprise if some people start to ask for a photo with you!
QM6'1QM said on 25/Nov/18
Jdc said on 22/Nov/18

Yesterday I was at the fair, out of 110-115 men seen, only 10-12 people were taller than me (the tallest dude was 6'4), just my own research. I am the same height as you, 185.7 cm right in front of the bed.

P.S. Everyone has their own perception and view of things. Someone looks only at tall people, someone sees the situation as a whole / objectively.
Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 25/Nov/18

I think a legit 6'8" guy would very rarely be guessed as low as 6'6", if not ever. The taller you are, the more people tend to overestimate yout height. Even me, the lowest I've been guessed was 6'4" and it happened only twice.
Editor Rob
You would be surprised at how those with no care or interest in height will guess somebody.
Goel174.4cm said on 25/Nov/18
What is the average height of Ukraine?
For younger generation? Will I be considered short among young people at strong 174cm?
Goel174.4cm said on 25/Nov/18
@ Delvin chung
The average height of Japan especially for younger generation is 171-72cm. The China is almost very similar to Japan. South Korea is little taller at 174cm.
Jdc said on 25/Nov/18
@Zampo, @Christian 6’5 3/8
Probably very insecure is a bit of an exaggeration. I just feel that at 6’1.25 although there are plenty of guys shorter than me, there are still many who are taller. What I meant was that I am not close enough to the ideal height which is 6ft 2.5- 6ft 3 imo. You always want things that you cannot have. I don’t mind when I see guys taller than me who are unattractive in other ways, be it by having a bad dress sense or being massively overweight, or with bad facial features. What’s worse is when you see really good looking guys, who are ~6 foot 3 wearing suits, who have nice bodies and facial features, and have clearly ‘made it’ in life. It just makes you feel physically inferior. Plus, at 6 ft 1.25, even if I wear shoes I am not tall enough to stand up to girls who are 5 ft 10-6 ft, wearing 4 inch evening heels. Often people guess that I’m 6’2’’-6’3’’ as I’m very skinny as I mentioned, but I’m still not as tall as I’d want to be. Dw I will never wear one inch lifts
Jdc said on 25/Nov/18
@AndrewV agree that height growth is flattening, but what I was referencing was the eLIfe 2016 study from Imperial. Average height for the 1996 cohort in the UK is 5 foot 10, whereas for the 1970s cohort it was more like 5 foot 9. Subsequent generations like those born in the 2010s I agree probably won’t end up much taller. That inch makes a lot of difference for a young person like me, and so that’s why I feel that the ideal height for young men has increased, and that 6 foot 1 is not close enough to the ideal any longer.
Kevozz said on 25/Nov/18
Hello rob, i wake up at 168cm and go to bed at 167cm, is it normal to loose only 1cm at 22years of age?? And what height in centimeters should i claim??
Editor Rob
I would claim 167cm personally. 1cm variation is on the lower end of the range. 3cm is on the higher end.
Timothy Andrew Sarkar said on 25/Nov/18
@James186 @Jdc i am 6'1.5-1.75 and i am around the 90th percentile compared to other guys in my university residence out west(majority are white young adults). I would say im comfortably tall and have no need to be any taller, really. Jdc, you are actually tall dont worry.
Nik said on 24/Nov/18
@ Jdc - I disagree with everything you said!
C.J Camp said on 24/Nov/18
Hello Rob. I'm new here, and I was previously unaware of the "morning and night" height thing. I measure exactly 6'9"(206 cm) barefoot in the morning, and exactly 6'7.875" (203 cm) barefoot at 11 pm at night at my lowest. What would be a good, honest height for me to claim?
Canson said on 24/Nov/18
@Bobby: yea if I were him I would probably let it be. It’s not like you all are in a competition and that’s more on his part than on yours or Greg’s. I respect all three of you. To be fair, Arthur has never said anything negative to me.
James-186cm said on 24/Nov/18
I’m 6’1.4”-6’1.5” during lunch and I do see many people shorter than me. I feel comfortably tall at this height.
Bobby said on 24/Nov/18

I still think the ideal height is 6'2 all around, or 6'1. I think there's a cutoff point, and to be inclusive, I would say that being taller than 6'5 is overkill. At the shortest, I would say 5'8, as it's quite neutral, and I'm not saying that because Rob is that tall either. I think anything shorter than 5'8 might be considered universally short for a man.
Zampo said on 24/Nov/18

5'8.5, 5'8/5'9, "almost/about 5'9" or 5'9 are all reasonable claims.


Whilst I don't dispute your perception. I think you may be only focusing on those taller than yourself or may have a complex (I mean even if 6'1.25 is at the 80% percentile, the fact you feel very insecure at this percentile is a little bizarre). I live in London there are indeed plenty of guys over 6'0 however there are also several below 5'7 range. You've stated that the average height for younger guys is about 178 cm so I'm not sure how at 186 cm one would "feel merely above average".
Jake the Snake said on 24/Nov/18
That's great Rob I'l start claiming 5ft 8 as 172.7 cm is the lowest I measure after physical extortion. My usual measurement after dinner time is around 173.1 cm to 173.2 cm. I think you'd have a slight edge on me Rob but it would be close. Do you reckon our eye level would be pretty similar ?
Editor Rob
I doubt you'd look any different in a photo. But you can be the same height and other factors can make you look taller/shorter like different eyelevels, hair thickness's, head lengths.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 24/Nov/18

6'1.25" is most certainly still tall in the West. You even admitted that you're taller than 80% of guys at your university. No guy at your height should be feeling insecure like that, it's all in your mind.
Greg said on 24/Nov/18
@Jdubbz Honestly I would take anything from 6'0-6'2" anything after that I feel is a bonus but 6'6 I would never take.
@Bobby @Canson 5'10 Exactly usually you wouldn't even have to tilt it if someones within an inch of you only after 2 inches is really where you notice yourself raising your eye lvel. And that's what I am saying that picture doesn't prove anything.
@JamesB172 That's crazy I had a friend whos probably just over 6'0 claim 6'2, do you want to know something funny? I was recently reconnecting with my half brother he claimed to be 6'1 and 190 pounds, the 190 pounds I could believe but proportionally he doesn't look anything over 5'10-5'11 there was even a photo of him standing next to girls who where a bit above average height maybe 5'5-5'7 in heels and he got edged out if he was a true 6'1 guy he would have been noticeably taller, then he tried saying 6'0.. I was like no way.
Delvin chung said on 24/Nov/18
Also whats the average height in japan ?
Delvin chung said on 24/Nov/18
Whats the average shoe size in japan ??? Us 8 ? Us 8 1/2
Jdubbz said on 23/Nov/18
@tava21 I'd consider you to be 6'4. Maybe not solid or strong, but you're closer to 6'4 than 6'3.
Jdubbz said on 23/Nov/18
For what it's worth, I feel noticeably shorter than someone only 1-2 inches taller than me. Half an inch to an inch, not so much, but otherwise I definitely find myself looking up slightly.
Zineddine said on 23/Nov/18
rob . can tall people have under average of small shoe size ?
Editor Rob
There will be some correlation with shoe/height size, but you will definitely find those extremes, like the six footer with a size 7 shoe or a 5ft 5 with a size 10.
AndrewV said on 23/Nov/18
@Jdc Height growth is actually stagnant in the West now; we have reached our genetic peak.

Even the developed parts of Asia, like S. Korea, Japan, or parts of China, have reached their peak. If you look at Korean conscription data, young male height has peaked at 173 cm and has remained stagnant since the early 2000s.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 23/Nov/18

Maybe you have a shorter eye level than average, and your friend has a longer one. I have a friend (though not particularly close) who's 195cm but I don't have to look down at all, and our eye levels are pretty much the same height. My eye level's around 4.6"-4.7" but his could be around 4.2"
Canson said on 23/Nov/18
@Bobby: they say hanging from a bar may help. Also try glucosamine and staying better hydrated
Kerem said on 23/Nov/18
I am 193cm and 140cm shoulder length. my belly is 82cm and I weigh 93kilograms. Is it good for a man to be in these measurements. my fat ratio is 9.2% according to us navy calculation.
Canson said on 23/Nov/18
@Jdubbz: yea for me I would rather lose the 1/4” and just be a solid 6’4” over growing more. 193 is perfect, Although 194 isn’t bad height either. But If I wanted to be taller I think 195 or solid 6’5 is it. I think once at 197, you just look too lanky and you would be 6’6 or near it for a large chunk of the day
Sakz said on 23/Nov/18
@Sandy When I think about it now I don't think I actually considered myself short back then because I thought the people around me may just be tall (wasn't height aware at all understandably at that age). Then again when you're small I guess everyone will look tall to you. Weirdly my brother also grew slowly and while he did get some noticeable growth in, he ended up a lot shorter than me at 5'6. Nutrition can definitely help with maximising height potential although as long as you do eat enough, you shouldn't really miss out on too much height. I can't say I had the healthiest of diets but I did get some essential nutrients in when I could. Ah Nesquick, I remember forcing that down me on occasions just so I didn't go to school on an empty stomach (parents orders for me aswell). I forgot to ask how tall is your brother now?
Cheers! Enjoy the weekend when it arrives.
C.J Camp said on 22/Nov/18
Hey Rob and guys, I’m new to this site. I just learned about morning/night heights, always thought it was just my imagination. I generally thought I was around 6’8” and change barefoot, however I noticed some fluctuation. After I heard that you shrink a little throughout the day, I did some experiments for a few days. Consistently, I measure exactly 6’9” barefoot in the morning out of bed, and 6’7.875” (six foot seven and seven-eighths) barefoot at 11:30 pm at night, (so my extreme low I guess?) In my size 16 work boots, I am slightly over 6’10” when I leave for work in the morning and barely clear my 7’ garage opening. At night I’m still over 6’9 in my boots. Based on these facts, what is an honest claim for me? Where would you put me on this site? Thx :)
Editor Rob
I'd stick with saying 6ft 8. I'm sure people would guess you from 6ft 6 to 6ft 11.
Bwk said on 22/Nov/18
Anyone here know if you can gain a few millimeters in height by losing weight?
Bobby said on 22/Nov/18

Arthur is attempting to dispel any doubts, but his picture with that drummer isn't adequate for a height judgment. As I explained before to Arthur, he could be any height from that picture. It's not a good picture for judging stature, he only showed his upper body and nothing else.
Jdc said on 22/Nov/18
Just my personal opinion, but I believe that the ideal height for men in the West (ex. Netherlands) is now approaching 6 foot 3 (189-190 cm). Agree it was 6 foot 2 for the older generation. The younger generation is getting taller, with the average height of those born in 1996 in the UK now 5 foot 10, according to research from eLife. In London, people are surely even taller. I am 6 foot 1.25 mid afternoon barefoot, and at an international university in London, I feel merely above average and hence very insecure, probably scraping the 80th percentile at the union bar. It’s only in Asia where I feel my height stands out, but even less so with lots of expats and the Chinese getting taller. What’s worse is the feeling when you go to clubs, and you see girls around 5 foot 10- 6 foot wearing 4 inch heels, which signals that only 6 foot 3+ guys are acceptable. I try my best to keep my perceived height higher than my true height, with a 28 inch waist and 36 inch chest, but most runway male models are even skinnier, and almost always 6 foot 2+. 6 foot 1 just doesn’t cut it in the West anymore as an almost ideal height imo.
JamesB172cm said on 22/Nov/18
I have a friend who is 5ft11.75 that claims 6ft2 1/2
jayp said on 22/Nov/18
I measure 176cm out of bed sometimes seems couple mm over and 174cm before bed also couple mm over not quite sure what to say my height is?
Nik said on 22/Nov/18
@ viper - How tall are you please?
QM6'1QM said on 22/Nov/18
AndrewV said on 20/Nov/18

Definitely very tall. Philippines is a short country/territory.
Jake the Snake said on 22/Nov/18
Got my height done today on a stadiometer right after lifting 50kg worth of dumbbells the exact measurement I got was 172.7 cm. Rob would you consider this a strong 5'7 or a weak 5'8 ? I've claimed 5'7 in the past but next to a 5'7 guy I'm noticeably taller. Is claiming 5'7 to modest of me ?
Editor Rob
It's right on 5ft 8, so if you claimed 5ft 7 you would be underlisting yourself.
Bobby 5'10 said on 22/Nov/18

That was my point to him, an inch isn't a lot. He makes it sound like you have to crane your neck to the skies to make eye contact with someone only an inch taller. You don't really have too. You tilt your eye level a small fraction, like 1/8 or 1/4.
Sandy Cowell said on 22/Nov/18
@ Sean william Winter - Hi! Is that so? A boy grows 10-11 inches from the onset of puberty? Well, I didn't know that, though it does make sense. I reckon that was probably true with all my four brothers. It's more than likely to be much less than that for girls though.

Nice to meet you, Sean! 😊👍
Sakz said on 22/Nov/18
@Bobby You would be raising your eye level only slightly though which is why you can't really tell. With an inch difference your eyes would be around the middle of the other persons nose, so you would be looking up slightly.
Canson said on 22/Nov/18
@Greg: meant to say I wouldn’t go as far
Zampo said on 22/Nov/18

I feel it's more to do with what QM6'1QM has said. One person lowering and another raising his eye-level can make the difference vanish easily in conversation, I easily lower my eye-level by 0.5 inch with someone shorter and I would imagine that person shorter could easily raise theirs by the same. however if you were told to stand side by side with you 6'0 friend looking straight ahead, then I reckon the difference would be quite noticeable. Typically he would be looking an inch above your eyebrow (beginning of forehead region).
Greg said on 21/Nov/18
@Jdubbz Well long story short he’s talked down to people, insulted them for their height. Rob almost banned him when he called a short poster a manlet. I forget who it was.. and he’s been trying to downgrade everybody me, Bobby, Ben, etc. He has a very big ego and thinks highly of himself. He also trolls and says the most obscene things. I think he’s been on here for 2-3 years maybe? I could be wrong I’ve been here since 2011, but didn’t start posting until maybe 2013-2014.
@Sakz I think 6’0 isn’t common but if you’re out and about walking through town you can spot a few 6 footers, it’s 83rd percentile in America meaning that only 2/10 guys would be 6 feet or taller.
@Canson Well truth be told I’ve never met Arthur in person and neither has anybody here so we wouldn’t know for sure, he’s just trying to tease me by making a horrible joke “Little Greg” hence why I responded with “ I’m not a rapper” lol. Yeah see what I mean by him trolling? Also that photo was a terrible judgement for height, if he where to upload a photo of him standing straight showing us the footwear then perhaps it would be credible. I think we need to have a legendary meeting between Arthur and I like the Bobby vs Nb show down.
Ben said on 21/Nov/18
Connor, I don't hate you or have any hard feelings. It's a thing of the past, we've all moved on. It was over a year ago.
QM6'1QM said on 21/Nov/18
Goel174.4cm said on 20/Nov/18

I think between 5'9.75-5'10.75" (after sleep) is the average height for young guys (20-30 y.o.).
Sakz said on 21/Nov/18
@Canson Honestly I think he's saying it to get a reaction and wind certain people up. The more people rise to it the more it'll be done.
Nik said on 21/Nov/18
@ Sakz - Thanks for that!

Jdubbz said on 21/Nov/18
@Canson I wouldn't mind 195cm or 6'5, but I definitely wouldn't want to be 6'6.
Sandy Cowell said on 21/Nov/18
@ Sakz - My brother, on the other hand, DID worry about his height and repeatedly asked, "When will I grow? When will I grow?"

My Mum got fed up, but I'd say, "Stuff down some high protein foods - like milk!"

Alas, those days they didn't make high protein milk shakes, and most of the surplus milk was consumed by me in Nesquick at the insistence of my Mum, as I hardly ate a thing and quite enjoyed the feeling of being empty-stomached and light-headed.

Oh well, it might have helped my brother because he developed a taste for running, and along with that comes an increased appetite. He still grew well after he was 17.

My Mum didn't take my brother to the doctor regarding his shrimpy height, but she took me along because of my late development. I was steamingly angry and most embarrassed. Of course, now I know that it's because I didn't eat much. My brother swears I'd have grown taller if I'd eaten more, and himself too, but mine was through choice. Christopher (the bruv!) ate whatever was going.

Yes, many youngsters are genuinely late developers, and you and my brother too were clearly among them. In the era I grew up in, it wasn't unheard of to come across kids who were late growers and/or developers through poverty either. There was a girl in my class like that, one of five kids, who was 5ft5, but too underweight to achieve the level of development that most girls were at. Her brothers, all much older, looked pretty tall to me; I went to tea with her once, but the food was at a premium as there were so many mouths to feed.

So much more is out in the open now about good nutrition, and a decent diet can still be achieved on minimal incomes, so the children of less well-off parents shouldn't be deprived and still reach their optimum heights. There are also food banks to help these people, so good health and development for today's kids is, and should always have been, the birth right that it is.

Enjoy the rest of your week, Sakz! 😊👍
HonestSlovene said on 21/Nov/18
@Goel174.4cm I'd say it's a cm higher than that, but close. 176-178 cm range.
Matt99 said on 21/Nov/18
@Sean William Winter that’s actually pretty normal for a 12 year old. I was probably 4’9-11 during the start of 12 to the end. 13 I was 5’2-3 range, then 14 5’4-5, then 15, 5’6-7, 16, 5’7-8.5, 17 5’8.5 probably, then 18, 5’8.75, then 19 5’9. I never had a fast growth spurt, only gradually grew. I’ve probably finished now, even if I did grow I doubt it’d be over an 1/8-1/4.
Zampo said on 21/Nov/18
When I was 13/14, I remember being around 5'4.5 - 5'5 then at 15/16 I was around 5'9.5 range. Growing up I thought 5'10 range possibly was where I would end up. I was always in the middle percentile during school days.
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Greg: hard for me to tell just from that pic
Bobby said on 20/Nov/18

Nah, I only raise my eye level when looking at someone who is like 2 inches taller or more. An inch ain't much. If I do raise my level it's not more than a 1/4. The way you do describe it, it's like I have to crane my neck to look at someone who is only an inch taller. I don't have too.
Greg said on 20/Nov/18
@QM6’1QM Idk honestly Bobby has a point even my 6 foot friend who’s just over an inch taller than me I don’t really have to look up that much, the difference is noticeable but not a major one and I don’t raise my eye level. Only maybe when a guys like your height or 6’2 then I will see my self looking up a bit.
AndrewV said on 20/Nov/18
Hey Rob, how tall would a 184cm/6ft man feel in the Philippines? I haven't sen any studies for that country.
HonestSlovene said on 20/Nov/18
@Colberto Based on the description I'd say he's a weak 6'0" or 5'11.75" (182 cm range to be precise).
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Nov/18

I was the tallest student in my whole school during my junior and senior years at 6'4" range, but it was a rather small school. I'm sure a lot of big public schools will have a few kids that are 6'5"+.
Goel174.4cm said on 20/Nov/18
Rob, So, The average UK men wakes up at 177cm and comes to flat 175cm. Do you agree with this?
Canson said on 20/Nov/18
@Greg: only problem is that if he’s the same height as you and calling you little then that would imply that he is too. And I respect Arthur as he’s never said anything negative to me here. However, facts are facts. I would go as far as saying he is lying but he definitely isn’t any taller than you based on your claim as well
Canson said on 19/Nov/18
@Jdubbz: you’re looking for more like 195cm or a full 6’5? Or 6’6”?
tava21 said on 19/Nov/18
rob, if i am a solid 192 cm in my lowest, can i be considerated 6ft 4 or 193?
Sean william Winter said on 19/Nov/18
@SANDY COWELL yeh 4'8 4'10 is small for a 12 yr old boy. if hes 12 and 4'8 likely only be 5'8 5'7 as adult.sinces average hieght gain is around 10 11 inches in puberty.
Sakz said on 19/Nov/18
@Greg Yeah even 6 footers weren't very common. Anytime someone saw a 6 footer or above like myself they'd say 'you're tall'. In fact my brother told me that now there's hardly anyone that height there so people seem to be shorter now (at least in my school).
Sakz said on 19/Nov/18
@Nik Yep exactly.

@Sandy I'm around 6'0.5-6'0.75 today. It definitely was small for a 12 year old and who knows I may have been less than that. I remember growing maybe from around 14 or 15 onwards and then just shooting up. I even had a trip to the doctors at one point because my parents were concerned I was too small and wasn't growing. She just said I'll shoot up one day which is what happened. It didn't bother me though because I was so young at the time and I've never given height much consideration. Have a great week!
Jdubbz said on 19/Nov/18
@Greg I haven't been on this forum for too long. Just curious, what kind of trouble has Arthur caused?
Dream(5'9.5") said on 18/Nov/18
Rob, recently, my best friend (The one who would be slightly taller than John Cena) said there 'was' an eighth grader (in our former middle school) who was big. He said that the same 'eighth grader' was somewhere between 6'5"-6'6".

I asked him if that 'former eighth grader' was the same size as Anthony Joshua. (To be precise, I actually showed him the picture of you (Rob) and Anthony Joshua.) My best friend said yes, the eighth grader (at that time in our middle school) was similar in size to Anthony Joshua.

Rob, who would you say would be the tallest middle schooler you saw?
Bobby said on 18/Nov/18

Yeah, I wouldn't mind growing even a 1/4 to be a more solid 5'10. I would be happy with Greg's stats.
Greg said on 18/Nov/18
@Canson I personally think Arthur is a weak 5’10 or falls to 5’10 at his low. Even Lee thinks Arthur isn’t giving an honest claim based on that photo so I’m not the only one.
Tallgreekboy said on 18/Nov/18
@guru guy lmao are you kidding? I’m 200cm and anyone 8-9cm taller looks freakibsh to me. Talkless of 21cm taller guy you must be joking.
QM6'1QM said on 18/Nov/18
Bobby said on 16/Nov/18

Well, this is, certainly, not a huge difference, but palpable and noticeable (especially with good posture).
I know what I'm saying, because you have to look UP at the person who is "only" an inch taller than you. It's true. Bobby, you are probably one of those guys, who involuntarily raise their eyes while interacting with people, because of this you feel taller, although this is not so.
Bobby 5'10 said on 18/Nov/18

You might go with a 175cm claim, and others won't really question it.
VelikiSrbinn said on 18/Nov/18
Rob, how much height do the Vans slip on style give? They look like this: Click Here
Editor Rob
They give between 0.5 and 0.6 range.
QM6'1QM said on 17/Nov/18
Zampo said on 15/Nov/18

Great remark, Zampo.
The way it is. I think this is one of the few reasons when someone feels “short”, top of the head of another person is just above the level of their eyes.
Sakz said on 17/Nov/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Either that or the person he's referring to may not be 7'4. The more taller someone is than the majority the harder time people tend to have trying to judge their height.
Greg said on 17/Nov/18
@Sakz It’s a possibility, yeah a 6’5 doesn’t come around that often, the tallest teacher in my school was maybe a strong 6’3. There where a couple 6’0 or close teachers but that’s about it. Also a couple 6 footers in the school but it wasn’t super common.
Greg said on 17/Nov/18
@Jdubbz because Arthur is insecure and jealous and in fact I am taller then him I bet in person I would edge Arthur out by at least a 1/4 of an inch. 😂 depending on the time of Day I’m either 5’11, 5’10.75” or 5’10.25-.5 But its all the same basically. Let’s not forget Arthur is a known menace to these forums and he has to advocate his useless information one way or another.
@Colberto we wouldn’t be able to tell unless you have a picture of you and the guy standing next to each other.
@Dream(5’9.5”) Most guys everywhere inflate their height.
@LittleLee168cm Unfortunately Rob will never ban Arthur he’s a professional troll and will always contaminate these forums. Maybe the day he loses his hair he will stop trolling which shouldn’t be that much longer lol.
Editor Rob
Arthur! has been given a few chances. A bit of joking is ok but sometimes it just goes too far. Respect other folk's heights, and not insult them.
Guru Guy said on 17/Nov/18
@Colberto, I think he is 5'10-5'11 range, and those girls are around 5'3-5'4!
@Christain 6'5 3/8", the two tallest guys in my high school(at least when I attended), in a predominantly white neighborhood, were around 6'5-6'7. Then there were a good handful of guys 6'1-6'4, and then a lot below that. If I saw a 7'4 guy in my high school, I would faint lol
JamesB172cm said on 17/Nov/18
A genuine 6ft5.5 (especially if the person that height is lanky) too me always looks borderline freakish. Saw a man that size today who funnily enough reminded me of James Cromwell In terms of build.

That said If I was taller like 5ft9.5 (which is the average height of a UK man) 6ft5.5 too me would look like 6ft4 does (6ft4 doesn’t look freakish in my opinion just very tall). I remember at least 10 years ago I had a friend in college who was 6’4 legit and lanky but he certainly didn’t look like freak.
Canson said on 17/Nov/18
@Arthur: you and Greg measure identical at 5’10.25. If you consider him little then that would be calling yourself little when neither of you is. 5’10” is a respectable above average height
Bego said on 17/Nov/18
@J?ger If its Portland i trust you
Jdubbz said on 17/Nov/18
@Myself Oh also, I grew from 6'2.5 to 6'3.75-.875 the Summer before I turned 20. The initial 2cm of growth came super quick, but the last cm took several months. Similar pattern to what you describe - 2-3mm growth every few months.
Sean william Winter said on 17/Nov/18
rob when you reach 50 i think you will be the same hieght.?
Editor Rob
Well I hope I can, but you never know with your body - sometimes injuries or wear & tear related to age can effect some people more than others.
Jdubbz said on 17/Nov/18
I don't find what @youarenothing said to be too unbelievable. Yeah maybe the 7'4 kid he's talking about wasn't really that tall, but high schoolers can be super tall these days. I went to a huge high school (~5000 students) and I was nowhere near the tallest at around 6'2-6'3. Easily in the top 100 of course, but there were plenty of guys in the 6'3-6'7 range. The tallest I remember was around 6'8, but he left my school sophomore year (so he easily could have grown to near or over 7ft).
Jdubbz said on 17/Nov/18
@Myself well I'm 22 and I hit 6'3.75-6'.875 a few years ago (I think when I turned 20). I gained a little under a cm in the past few months surprisingly. I'm glad I grew a little, since I hate being just under a certain height lol. I think I'm finally done, but I wouldn't mind another cm or so.
Matt99 said on 17/Nov/18
@Edna not true...some men only lose a fraction by 50, maybe even an 1/8, but a 1/4 inch is very likely. But it all depends on the lifestyle!
Sandy Cowell said on 17/Nov/18
@ Sakz - Could you please refresh my memory and tell me how tall you stand today?

4ft8/10 is indeed small for a 12-year-old boy! I believe just before my brother turned 12 he was 4ft6/7. He grew very slowly and standing up, came well below many a boy's shoulders! I used to stare at the spectacle in assembly; I went to the same school, you see, only two years later!

Have a great weekend, Sakz! 😁
viper said on 17/Nov/18
My dad at 71 is still 6-0 like he's always been. My 80 year old Uncle is still 5-8.

I guess my dad should be 5-8 now, lol.
Bobby said on 16/Nov/18

An inch difference isn't much, to be honest. I used to have a TA who measured around 5'11 and the difference between us wasn't much, and I didn't have to look UP at him or anything.
Sean william Winter said on 16/Nov/18
rob how much taller ios somone if your head reaches bottom of there mouth? lower lip to middle mouth
Editor Rob
They could be near 7.5-8 inches taller...all depends on how long their head was. With a small head (8.5-9 inches) they might only be almost 7 inches taller, but with a big guy with a long head (10-10.5 inch) it could even be 8-8.5 inches.
Nik said on 16/Nov/18
@ Sakz - Yes, accepting others for how they are makes for a happier society, it helps people form excellent relationships (all types of relationships) with other people and it leads to everyone feeling better about all aspects of themselves, as they should do as long as they are not harming others. No person is better than anyone else and I am glad that everyone can be reassured by all of us here at celebheights that that is indeed the case. Everyone can find acceptance from others, we accept people as they are on celebheights and there are others out there that do too.
jayp said on 16/Nov/18
If I measure 176cm or a couple mm over out of bed and 175cm 2-3 hours after and 174.7-174.5 5 hours out of bed on my feet standing up for the majority of that what would be my height?
Dream(5'9.5") said on 16/Nov/18

I have a feeling that ‘most’ guys (bodybuilding forums) are inflating their height.
Colberto said on 16/Nov/18
Hey rob, I have a question. Would I have been taller than this guy or same height as him. When I was 6'0", a solid 6'0" range like 183-183.5 I posed with a couple girls and one claimed 5'5" and the other 5'6". They look the same height, no difference and the 5'6" claimed one looks 3" at least shorter than someone who's 5'8". Well she came up to this guy's lips right around. I heard he's 6'0" and people say he is. Well ME at 6'0", her and the other woman who said 5'5" was like a little above my chin, below my lips. Who would've been taller me or that guy. I was a solid six foot and they say he's six foot. My guess is either I was by a tiny fraction or we were the same. What range would he be?
Edna Buckette said on 15/Nov/18
People lose one inch every decade over the age of forty.
Greg said on 15/Nov/18
@!Arthur oh and for future references if you are going to post a picture proving your height make sure you are standing straight and showing footwear and that you aren’t losing any posture. That picture is not good for judging height at all. Mind as well just make a measurement video. I could say you look anywhere from 5’8 to a weak 5’10 in it. And 2nd of all that picture wasn’t taken next to Serj take a picture standing next to him showing the footwear and you guys both standing straight then we’ll talk King Arthur 😂.
Myself said on 15/Nov/18
Yeah same here haha. Also if i saw a tall person from far away or even medium distance, sometimes i used to (and still do occasionally) feel like they're massive (i was like "he is huge!"), but when i come closer i notice i am noticeably taller! heheh
But i've learnt to distinguish people nearer my height from distance much easier now.

@Kevin @Greg
Lol yeah i agree with you, what "youarenothing" is saying is something quite ridicolous...maybe he confused his city's high school with the NBA
Jdubbz said on 15/Nov/18
@Arthur if you're really 5'10.5, then why are you calling Greg "little"? He's the same height as you lol
178,7 at 19 said on 15/Nov/18
Guys, 1.85m is a great height, I was in the gym with a friend who is that height and it looked like the perfect height.

He seems much taller from distance, maybe because he has an athletic type of body, If I didn’t know him and I saw him from certain distance, I would have guessed him at like 188-189cm...

In that height you can still put on muscle easily and you never look short.

If I could choose a height it would be in the 185-188cm range, great height for sports, strength, aesthetics...
Meanwhile, I am 179cm and I look average from a distance, If I could have those extra cms it would have been great
Littlelee168cm said on 15/Nov/18
Is arthur really still here after all the trouble he's caused? Seriously Rob you should get rid of him for good
Emil said on 15/Nov/18

lol tallest kid in my high school was 6'8 and I lived in one of the wealthiest towns in Denmark.
tallest 10 % of guys were around the 6'1-6'3 range so your statement seems a tad extreme
Bobby said on 15/Nov/18

Hold on buster, not so fast. You finally had the courage to post a picture of yourself which I commend you for, but your picture is a half-a**** representation of the height comparison. All I can see is your upper body, and have no idea what your footwear is like, and taken out of context, you could be any height imaginable. That's my only issue. Otherwise, System of a Down is a pretty good band.
Greg said on 15/Nov/18
@Arthur! Why you calling me little Greg? I’m not a rapper 😂 oh god Arthur you need help, I guess I’ll call you A-ridiculous because that’s what you are ridiculous, so I seen the photo you don’t even show your footwear moron, nobody can see what you are wearing in it. But whatever floats your boat. Good lord you’re not known for you looks eh? 😏 we don’t need your blessings back to the woods where ye came from creature.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Nov/18

I live in a suburb of Los Angeles.


Youarenothing might not be telling the truth. First of all, a 7'4" guy is extremely rare, let alone a high schooler. And a "ton" of 6'3"-6'8" guys being in a school is also pretty hard to believe. I was the tallest student in the entire school in my junior and senior years, as I was around 6'4" range then, and I had around 30 classmates. But it was a private school so it wasn't as big as most public schools.
Sean william Winter said on 15/Nov/18
bad photo arthur ur leaning and i dont even know how tall that shorter guy is. strong 5'10 meaning 179 cm???
Animus said on 15/Nov/18

Yeah, Jim Thorpe doesn't look over 6'0 in photos.
Canson said on 15/Nov/18
@Zampo: agreed. I’m in that boat. I measured 3/8 before and claimed the half now that I come under that I don’t
Myself said on 15/Nov/18
At which age did you grow from almost 6'4 flat to strong 6'4?
I'm 21, my low is 192.5-7 aswell and i grew from 191.5 to this height in the previous year with spurts of 2 to 3 mm with pauses of multiple months in between each one.
HonestSlovene said on 15/Nov/18
@youarenothing Find that kind of hard to believe. I went to a high school with roughly 1000 students (roughly 500 male) and the tallest kid was a strong 6'8", pushing 6'9" and he looked absolutely massive. Most common tall heights were 6'2"-6'4" and the tallest in our class was a weak 6'6". Most males averaged 5'10"-6'0" more or less.
Sakz said on 15/Nov/18
@Greg The tallest student in my school was also around 6'5 now that I look back. There was also a teacher around 6'5-6'6 and I don't think there was anyone else even near that height. Definitely not common where I live.
Sakz said on 15/Nov/18
@Sandy Well if they could see him now... If I had to guess I was probably around 4'8-4'10 when I was 12 (just starting secondary school). I also remember girls being taller than me so it was definitely weird just shooting up and having everyone look up at you. It definitely took them by surprise.
Sakz said on 15/Nov/18
@QM6'1QM Somewhere in the 6'0.5-0.75 range.
J?ger said on 15/Nov/18
I'm from Oregon, US. I am 6' and feel very average here. It definitely depends on area. Most likely.
Zampo said on 15/Nov/18

I suspect, that's because when you are taller than someone you are judging from their top of their head through your eyes (once someone is above your eye-level, they will not look significantly shorter from your eyes). However if shorter than someone you can't see where the top of your head ends thus are judging from eye-level to eye-level, chin height, shoulder height etc.
Arthur! said on 14/Nov/18
To anyone wondering (especially little Greg ;) ) whether I am the strong 5'10 I've always maintained to be, you can check out my photo with John Dolmayan, the drummer of System of a Down, on Serj Tankian's page. According to Rob, I'm of similar height to Serj, who is listed as 5'10.5. Bless you all
Rick1 said on 14/Nov/18
Who lives longer shorter or taller people? Ive seen various claims to support both sides but most sources conclude that the taller you are above average the more likely you can get cancer and blood clots, which makes sense i guess with their being more cells and increased circulation - weight aside
Greg said on 14/Nov/18
@youarenothing so you go to a basketball/Rowing Academy for highschool? 7’4 😂😂 Jesus dude wtf. The tallest kid in my highschool was 6’5, and he was the only guy that height there.
@JamesB172Cm well I mean massive could also mean big frame like let’s say someone’s 6’4, but 330 pounds I would say he’s massive, but 6’4 and like 180 not really.
Bego said on 14/Nov/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Where do you live? What city?
QM6'1QM said on 14/Nov/18
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Nov/18

I agree with you. I also find 6ft as 83-85% in my locality.

You noticed that when you are an inch taller, you think something like: “Well, this dude is a little bit shorter”.
And when someone is an inch taller, you think: “Well, this dude is damn tall, yes”, although that’s "only" an inch difference!
I think this is such an optical illusion, when you have to look UP :).
Zampo said on 14/Nov/18

I think once you get measure 5'10 3/8 for example. 5'10.5 is a more accurate/representative claim than 5'10. As one would generally be looking 5'10.5 range to most during the day. I think it all about stating a height that covers the range one would tends to look. 1/8 - 1/4 can be solid or strong. Someone like Rob where is absolute low still seems to be 173 is strong. A solid guy his extreme low could be 1/8 below the mark possibly?
Sandy Cowell said on 14/Nov/18
@ Sakz - Unfortunately for my brother, he didn't shoot up until he'd left the school class in which he was known as the class titch! He was even smaller than any of the girls! Cheers Sakz!
Kevin said on 14/Nov/18
youarenothing said on 13/Nov/18
"There is a high school in my city with a ton of male students range from 6'3-6'8, and the tallest boy is 7'4 there."

lol yeah right. Do you live in giant land or something? When I was in high school we had 3000 students and the tallest guy was probably around Christian's height and I felt quite tall myself at 5'11.5 (as a 17yo). I mean just consider the fact that most freshmen and sophomores (over half the school) are 14-16yo kids who aren't even done growing yet and it makes the idea of there being a ton of 6'3-6'8 guys seem more ridiculous.
Guru Guy said on 14/Nov/18
Hey Rob is measuring height on a carpet accurate enough? My carpet in my room is pretty solid though, so maybe it's alright? Also how much error does a tape measure bring(ie the metal thing at the end)
Editor Rob
The less your heels sink into the carpet, the more accurate you might get with a measurement.
Bobby 5'10 said on 14/Nov/18

Haven't measured an absolute maximum height in a while, but it's a little over 5'10.5 but still under 180cm.
QM6'1QM said on 14/Nov/18
Sakz said on 13/Nov/18

Sakz, how tall are you (normal low level/ evening) ? 6'0.75" ?!...
Sakz said on 14/Nov/18
@JamesB172cm It'll only be 'massive' to some people who don't see many tall people around. Very tall is a better way to describe that height but of course it varies for everyone. Generally speaking I think once someone hits 6'7 you can say they'll look extremely tall or massive.
Godzilla said on 14/Nov/18
Rob, where's the magical border line below that young man (20-30 years old), is prolly viewed as short/below average fellow?
Editor Rob
It's going to vary between countries. In the UK, I would say a 5ft 7 guy who is 20-30 would be viewed by the majority as short...but once you get closer to 5ft 9 those who think the guy is short would be massively reduced, although you still find a subset thinking under 5ft 10 is short.
Canson said on 14/Nov/18
@Zampo: I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said there. I am in that boat (same as Greg and Christian) in that I don’t come down to 6’4” flat (some days I’m still above the 1/4” mark) yet I claim 6’4” more often than 6’4 1/2. On an extreme low I can reach 6’4 or a hair over tho. I always view the 7/8 to 1/8 mark at a low as how a solid person would look and 1/8-1/4 is kinda a limbo really looks more solid than strong to me. Above 1/4 (maybe 1/3) and below 5/8 like Christian mentioned once is really where a guy claiming half should fall.
Zampo said on 14/Nov/18

I actually don't disagree with much of what you have said (aside from the gender pay gap issue, which I think is more complicated). From what I am reading, the disagreement seems to stem from terminology. e.g. what constitutes as a "fair opportunity"? I understand your perspective on the issue and It's all's best we switch the topic back to height though. Lol.
Bwk said on 14/Nov/18
@Bobby What's your absolute maximum height? Like 5'10 5/8s''?
youarenothing said on 13/Nov/18
Don't judge height of a place if you just visit there a couple of times. There is a huge difference among different cities even in the same state or province. And there is a huge difference among different block/communities/schools even in the same city. There is a high school in my city with a ton of male students range from 6'3-6'8, and the tallest boy is 7'4 there. But another high school has much shorter students, the tallest one is only 6'2. If you guys visit the latter one, you may only think'Oh, these American kids are so short'. But it is not the whole picture you've seen.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Nov/18

6'0" is around 85 percentile in US, so it's no surprise that I only see 2 out of 20 guys that are that height or taller. I live in an area that's about 174cm max though.
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Jdubbz and Bobby: I think if someone measures 3/4-7/8, it takes them out of that weak zone. I really consider a legit or textbook to be someone who is 7/8-1/8 since that’s the range where you still look right around the mark. I think if Bobby saw that mark 5/8 more often then he’d really be a weak 5’10” but he can also see 5’9.75 or above. I think “about 5’10” is fair for someone like him just as it is appropriate for someone who’s 5’10/5’10.25
tava21 said on 13/Nov/18
hey rob! can I measure myself using the doorway and a spray to mark the measurement? this method is accurate?
Editor Rob
Yes, it should give you a good idea. You could do one measurement, then move a foot along a wall and do it again, to make sure you are getting about same each time.
JamesB172cm said on 13/Nov/18
Met a guy a few nights ago who is 6ft4.75.

My impression of that height? Very tall but not massive.
Shally said on 13/Nov/18
Hey Rob, lets consider John Cena , he is a solid 184.2cm guy, could his lowest mark be around 183.5cm? Like a 1/4 inch difference.
Sakz said on 13/Nov/18
@Nik Nice to see someone else agrees. I say it's good to be open minded in things like that for all involved because everyone is different.
Sakz said on 13/Nov/18
@youarenothing Yeah it definitely depends on who you're with and where you are. I'm in the same range as you and the only time I would say I feel 'tallish' is when I'm out in public shopping centres because you see taller people in really populated areas like that. When walking down the street and locally I would say I feel tall because seeing people well over 6'0 isn't all that common.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Nov/18

The main reason why I had disagreements with you, is because in your original post, you made it to seem as if being a certain sex or race makes someone oppressed and disadvantaged in life, and that's not the case for the west in 2018. But I'm not downplaying genuine instances of discrimination and prejudice. I understand that they exist in all sides, and it sucks, but unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world so they'll always exist. But the gender wage gap isn't a result of discrimination, but rather career path choices and work ethics. These activsts who whine for "equality" in the west in 2018 are really wasting their time, because like I said, equality can't be achieved unless if they live under a complete Communist government. Most of them are just entitled crybabies who hate taking responsibility and accountability IMO. I see a lot of these types of people here in California.
Zampo said on 13/Nov/18

Forgot to ask, I'm re-reading my posts. Hope the tone is OK and it's not coming across annoyed or bullish. Not my attention if so, I quite enjoy such discussions.
Zampo said on 13/Nov/18
Christian 6'5 3/8":

My PC at times auto corrects my moniker for some reason. So I made that comment.

Christian, first of all I never said men can't be discriminated against (in fact I can think of several examples). You've have assumed discrimination goes one way (or that I perceived it that way) which I never stated or inferred. What you've described would be inherent bias if the decision for selecting the female over the male was based on a stereotype. I was merely giving an example from an angle that most would have heard of. I can state little spoken examples such as discrimination against the white working class in South Africa of today, if that helps? also I hope you can acknowledge/understood the hiring bias example if the 1st wasn't clear?

Secondly, I've already acknowledged that there is a law in place that protects all and even that true "equality" will most likely never be achieved (read my initial response). That has never been the issue or my point. Whether the law in place is effective enough is another story (which I am not entirely sure about). I'm genuinely surprised that you seem to find it difficult to comprehend that because a law is in place doesn't stop people from basing choices on stereotypes which inadvertently leads to discrimination in life. I work as economic consultant and from my encounters in policy work what I've stated seems to be mostly accepted but maybe it's different in the US?

@Rob: Apologies, I know this is a height page. This will be my final post on the subject matter on this page.
Editor Rob
Yeah, I think that topic is one that is best kept for other sites.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Nov/18

Every group has an opportunity to choose any career path they want. There are no laws that are holding back any protected class of people in 2018 in the west. Women, racial minorities and LGBT people can run for president/prime minister. And the problem with your example of the employers, is that first of all, we don't even know the sex of that employee. There are some female employees that discriminate against men too. Second, using your logic, if an employee chooses a woman over a man with both having equal skill sets, that would also mean it's discrimination. That's a silly way of thinking. Not everything can be 50/50. Btw, there are plenty of careers where women dominate them, and in those careers, women are typically preferred over men, so plenty of men who apply get rejected.
Nik said on 13/Nov/18
@ Sakz - You are so right!
Sakz said on 13/Nov/18
@Nik Exactly! I believe nobody should change for others whether it be in a relationship, social group etc. A person who accepts others for who they are and vice versa are the good ones and most compatible.
Sakz said on 13/Nov/18
@Sandy Lol I was in a similar situation myself! I went from being one of the shortest in my classes to suddenly being one of the tallest. To me it wasn't that big a deal but others always commented on how tall I'd gotten. Just goes to show how height can be funny and you can just shoot up out of nowhere. Thanks Sandy you have a great week aswell! :)
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Nov/18

Yes, thank you. A lot of people these days feel entitled and want "equality" without even pulling their own weight up first.
youarenothing said on 12/Nov/18
Crypto139 said on 5/Nov/18
I need to come back to celebheights more often, because people outside of here have really weird views on height. One person I know, that lives in Arizona, claims the average male height in that state is 6'1". Then another guy I know, in Canada, claims the average human male height is 6'0". These people are some of the most intelligent and respected in my peer group, and people actually believe the two without thinking about it! Weird huh.

@Crypto139。 If your friends only mean males around him or males at his class or school, it might be true. For example, there were 30 guys live in the same floor at my apartment, most of them are as tall as me or taller than me. I am around 184-185cm. However, if the number has been spread over the whole campus, my height is taller than around 75% young White male there. And if the number has been expanded the whole city, I am taller than 90% male. In fact, I am on the shorter side among my close friends. So it should depend on different circles or niches.
youarenothing said on 12/Nov/18
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 31/Oct/18

More people lie and make up stories than you might think. It's the Internet, so anyone can potentially lie and get away with it. Whenever I visit bodybuilding forums, more than half of the posters I see list themselves as 6'0"+. It's hilarious.

Maybe they do not lie when they say their height online. Becuase short guys may not want to list their height on the internet. Only tall or above average guys would like to share their height on the forums. Then, it cause like every one is over 6+, actually, many short people tend to refuse to show their height in the internet.
Zampo said on 12/Nov/18

I have no qualms with the example you have given. That is definitely reasonable. Agree that the 1/2 inch isn't used very well. I generally remember (although I wasn't height conscious then) being 5'11.25 at low or a hair over and just thinking 5'11 was the obvious choice hence claimed it although I did claim 5'11.5 on occasions if I met guys who were weak 5'11 range that claimed 5'11 as it just led to awkward moments at times. Lol.
Zampo said on 12/Nov/18

I should have made myself clearer. I agree with you entirely there. My point was more in relation to e.g. corporate world and it wasn't actually meant to be focused on earnings rather on opportunities. I tried to use earnings as a proxy for fulfilling potential/opportunities as this can be quite subjective but unfortunately I didn't explain myself well.

For example, an employer who has a choice between selecting a male and female (who have an equal skill set) but chooses the male employer based on the thought "well, the guy is probably a better choice because he is more likely to work harder" is inherent bias or I remember during a labour economics lecture (back in uni) the issue of hiring bias where ethnic minorities who "whiten" their job resumes got more interviews than when they used their real names. Due to this we see more companies introducing a "blind recruitment process". Hope this is a little clearer now.
Crab said on 12/Nov/18
Rob, I was measured at 179cm at the doctors. It was about 10am and I'd been up for about 2 hours. You say Stadiometers add a bit of height, and obviously you wake up taller. With that in mind, what do you think my general height is, 5'10 flat?
Editor Rob
The blue stadiometer I used added near 1/8th...but some might be very accurate or have errors.

I'd use a tape measure if I were you at home, to see what you get beside a wall.
Bego said on 12/Nov/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Only? Damn. Are you from Cali? My experience wasnt like that when visiting Istanbul where avg is purportedly 175 too.
grizz said on 12/Nov/18
@Rob, how tall was Jim Thorpe, world's greatest athlete?
imdb claims he was 6'1 while in notablebiographies it says 182 cm: "Thorpe had matured to almost six feet in height and 185 pounds and led Carlisle to outstanding football seasons in 1911 and 1912."
Editor Rob
I'd go with the book's claim.
Bobby 5'10 said on 12/Nov/18

Daily low is a solid 5'9.75, and extreme low is 5'9 5/8s. In general, I average closer to 5'10 flat.
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Zampo: to add I think the other poster that you and Greg were discussing would likely fall into that category
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Zampo: to add I think the other poster would likely fall into that category
Jdubbz said on 12/Nov/18
@Bobby what is your daily low and extreme low? I used to fall below the mark as well (I was 6'3.75-.875 at a low) but I still considered myself a decent 6'4 then.
Nik said on 12/Nov/18
@ Sakz - I totally agree! The things we control make us better and more interesting people, not the things we can't control! If there are people who don't prefer us the way we are then don't involve yourself with those people.

Nik said on 12/Nov/18
@ Sakz - I totally agree! The things we control make us better and more interesting people, not the things we can't control! If there oeople who don't prefer us the way we are then don't involve yourself with those people.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Nov/18

Maybe 2 out of 20, but I live in a below average area of US. The US average could be 3 out of 20.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Nov/18

One group earning less than another doesn't necessarily mean it's discrimination though. Women on average make less than men because of the type of careers they have. You can't expect an equal outcome unless if both sexes have the exact same type of jobs. Men get killed much more while on duty (such as military personnel, police officers, firefighters, construction workers etc.) than women, but that's not an example of sexism or discrimination. Rather it's because the vast majority of those careers are performed by men.
Nik said on 12/Nov/18
@ Sandy Cowell - Everyone should celebrate the fact that some people tower over others, a lot of people tower over a lot of other people as well as being towered over a lot by others too! We should all celebrate the diversity of human height!

Have a great week Sandy!
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Zampo: I think at 5’10.25 they could round down if they desire but I’m sure a large portion will measure around 5’10 3/8 or a hair over (early afternoon) and could be told by the doctor or nurse that they’re 5’10 1/2. In that case, they’d likely round up. To me, half is improperly used. People see 1/2” as rounding up to the nearest inch. ...
Kerem said on 12/Nov/18
I am 195-196cm out of bed but I tell my height as 193cm. Is it accurate? In hospital they measured my height as 182cm. they put the measurement on my hair line but they had to put it on my top of head, am I wrong? Is it possible to mismeasure our height? I have an exact method which gives accurate result. I wish I could show it to you, guys... I came accross with two athletes at the airport. They were Volkan Demirel goalkeeper of fenerbahce soccer team and a basketball player who was Kerem Tunceri. They were classified both as 191cm. I was a bit taller than them. May be same or 2cm taller. Our shoes were same which gave 2-3 cm.

There is one option that the athletes were not 191cm or in the hospital they mismeasured my height as 182cm barefoot as I told before. Is there anybody who has faced situation like me?
6footTom said on 12/Nov/18

The fact that women on average make less than men isn't proof of widespread discrimination. Men on average are more likely to pursue higher paying careers and jobs as well as working longer hours. Men are also more competitive on average and surveys have shown that men are also more likely to ask for promotions and raises compared to women. I encourage you to do more research on the subject instead of following the feminist rhetoric that it's due to discrimination. Studies and statistics do not back up this claim.
Zampo said on 12/Nov/18

Ok I see. Yes, I would have expected you to measure lower than 5'10 at that point. Height can be weird like that though, I have had days similar where I would expect to measure lower but I haven't and at the other extreme I have hit my low after 2 hours. What it does show is that 99% of people will see you as a 5'10 guy (which is what you are more or less).


I wouldn't disagree with you. Indeed, a proportion will claim 5'11 with his stats. It all depends on the individual. On this forum there is huge emphasis on being "honest". Personally, I could careless about that. I just think one should just claim to the nearest inch e.g. in this case 5'10.25 maybe a "5'10 or 5'10 and change" claim but if someone is not comfortable claiming a lower height than they technically measure, then maybe use the cm metric. I'm not particularly bothered though.
Sandy Cowell said on 12/Nov/18
@ Nik - Too right about everyone having a different definition of a 'towering'!
I experience it every time I go out, even though I am back to 5ft1.75, but to actually tower over people only happens when I see young kids, not even the older ones! Mind you, when I was 5ft2.5 and I knew my friend Kate, who was 4ft10, I felt like I towered over her, and I probably still would today...

Have a great week, Nik! 😀👍
Zampo said on 12/Nov/18
Christian 6'5 3/8":

Personally, I believe regardless of the socioeconomic system in place (even communism) equality will most likely never be achieved, unfortunately discrimination is part of human nature. I think with regards to equity, in accordance to law, I would agree with what you have stated. However this does not hide the fact that "Equity" cannot stop prejudice, which affects one's ability to maximise their potential. For example, despite the Equal Pay Act being introduced in 1970, the Gender pay gap still (significantly) exists or it hasn't stopped the fact that women are paid (bonuses) 35% less than men on average in the UK. Because equity exists doesn't mean it's effective in it's objective.
HonestSlovene said on 12/Nov/18
@Bobby Again, that is my ideal as well, but anything from 5'8" to 6'4" is decent in my opinion. Under a solid 5'8" is considered short in Europe and a solid 6'0" or more is considered tall (not a strong 5'11" claiming 6'0" or 6'1" like I know many people do).
Bwk said on 12/Nov/18
@Greg Seems like no matter what I'm doing whether it be exercising, on my feet for long periods of time, doing manual labor, etc I always manage to measure a tad over 5'10'' at the end of the day. I suppose under extreme conditions my absolute max low would probably be 5'10'' flat.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Nov/18

Here's where I have a problem with that. "Equality" can never be achieved unless if we live under a complete Communist system. That means that all genders, races etc., would be given the same, regardless of how much or how hard they work. What we already have, especially in the western world, is equity. Equity means that everyone's given an opportunity to succeed and thrive. A lot of people tend to think that "equality" and "equity" mean the same thing, but they don't.
Nik said on 11/Nov/18
@ Sandy Cowell - What you have said demonstrates that everyone's definition of towering is different! Although taller people are towered over less frequently than smaller people it is fascinating that most of the tallest people in society are towered over by others from time to time! Hey, if you want to see Peter Crouch towered over by someone then visit his page and click on the link provided by James B!
Greg said on 11/Nov/18
@Bwk at almost 5’11 that’s probably your low. An extreme low might be 5’10 flat.
@Jonah Ellis well how tall are you? You haven’t mentioned your height and what are your parents heights? That might give you an idea of your adult height. I probably grew like 3.5 inches from 16 or so until 18.
@Guru guy well the best way to measure yourself would be can against the wall or under the stadiometer granted it’s properly attached. You’re telling me you don’t feel tall as a 6’1.75-6’2 guy? I would feel tall. But it’s all depends where you live. Yeah I mean a 5’9 guy would be noticeably shorter than you I’m a weak 5’11, and when I see 5’3-5’4 guy I feel like they are much shorter than me and of course you would dwarf them.
@Zampo agreed but most guys would round up in his postition and say 5’11 if not 6’0 which as ridiculous as it may sounds seems to be the norm especially from what I witness.
Bobby said on 11/Nov/18

True, but I'm under 182cm myself, I didn't get annoyed. It's his opinion, and it's not wrong. It's subject to interpretation. I personally believe that ideal height is a solid 6'1. Many surveys would also agree with that figure too. I'd be very happy as a 186cm man, and no, I am not saying my happiness is conditional to my height, only that I would have no complaints about my stature.
Bobby said on 11/Nov/18

Forgot to mention that it was around 1:30 PM when I got home and spent more time on my feet by hopping in the shower and fixing myself some lunch to eat. I was curious to see where I'd fallen too as I expected I'd have hit my low by this point but I was strangely still hovering at a flat 5'10. I only made sure I was sitting upright though, so, that might have helped gain a 1/8th, maybe.
Bego said on 11/Nov/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Per 20 guys where you live how many are 6ft and above?
Bego said on 11/Nov/18
@Kurd1977 I paid attention to all sorts of heights. I have seen 165-170 guys alot but i have seen so many of them in 180-185 range too. Heights 90% of time seem to stop after 185 there, out of 15-20 guys 1 or 2 were over 190. Makes you sometimes wonder if its any lower than 178 even. Avg feels alot to be 178-180 there. Idk im speaking from my experience. Any new data on avg heights in Turkey recently? And regional differences? I was in thracian part so perhaps thats why i felt only above average.
Sandy Cowell said on 11/Nov/18
@ Sakz - I agree with the looking right up in order to speak with someone and seeing over someone's head is grounds for a towering, I really do!

When my elder brother was a kid, he was always going on about not being able to 'see above the heads of people', especially his classmates, as he was so short! Then as he moved up the school, and the younger classes started, he'd be literally beaming to report back to our Mum and Dad - and me! - that he could see over so-and-so's head! He'd been the smallest for so long that it seemed like a major achievement to him! 😊👌

Cheers Sakz and have a terrific week!
Matt99 said on 11/Nov/18
@JDB It was a sarcastic comment, if a guy thinks anything under 182 and over 188 unnecessary that’s his opinion...should of included an emoji so people don’t think it’s serious 😂
Zampo said on 11/Nov/18

Yep, Agreed.
Zampo said on 11/Nov/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8"

Definitely "it can" and this is not even a opinion rather reality. The evidence is there for everyone to see (unless one lives in a bubble). There is a reason why phrases such as "discrimination" exist or why government's (particularly in the western world) pay huge attention to the issue surrounding achieving equality. The same amount of opportunities do not exist for different categories of people. I would prefer not delve in further on this page as this is strictly for height discussion page but if you would like me to, I could further elaborate in Sookie's Den.
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Jdubbz: may just be messing with him is what I think. Lol I have two friends that are 6’6 and 6’7” and they would tell me the opposite. They would rather be my height than theirs
JDB said on 11/Nov/18
@Bobby: I understand why @Matt99 is annoyed tho. @HonestSlovene phrased it very strangely. Calling basically anyone under 182cm and anyone over 188cm is an unnecessary statement to say in its self and obviously expects a response.
Zampo said on 11/Nov/18

If you are 5'9.75 at a low. That seems about right.
Kurd177cm said on 11/Nov/18
Yes, They are lot of 180-185cm guys but there are lot of 165-170cm guys too which would really balance the average. I think you only paid attention to those who are taller than you than shorter.
Yes it is more in the range of 174-75cm for younger males if you consider both urban and rural population as well
Bwk said on 11/Nov/18
@Matt99 I'm not sure, usually after getting home from work where I'm standing for 8 hours straight I measure at 5'10 1/8ths". I'm not sure if that's my extreme low or not though.

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