How tall is Giant Haystacks

Giant Haystacks Height

6ft 8 (203.2 cm)

English wrestler Martin Ruane, who also wrestled in America under the name Loch Ness. He was billed in the late 1970's - during the heyday of British Wrestling - as standing a colossal 6ft 11 inches tall.

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Average Guess (72 Votes)
6ft 7.55in (202.1cm)
Wrasslinfan said on 11/Jul/20
Not so Giant Haystacks after all
Steven Wade said on 27/May/20
I have seen a video of the great many ducking under a sports centre door.Definetly 6 ft 8 peak
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Mar/20
@Paul Rutland
You're right, that's strange. 6'6", especially at his peak, was too low for him.
Paul Rutland said on 12/Mar/20
Remember seeing Haystacks back in the late 80's and distinctly recall them introducing him as 6'6" strange as he was always listed at 6'11" on TV.
Now,theres no way they would list a giant at below his true height (usually heavily inflated figures) so could this have been his real stature?
Alex Katch said on 6/Jan/20
Rob why 6ft 8in?, That guy was 6'7-½" 202cm

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(Fake photo, i know but it have a true)
6'7-½", 6'9-¾", 7'0"
Editor Rob
I think for a guy like Haystacks, he would have lost height earlier than most, given his sheer enormity.
Steven Wade said on 19/Sep/19
hi Rob what do you think Martins height was at the time of his passing,ie last public appearance?
Editor Rob
Could have been down into 6ft 6-6.5 range by late 90's when he passed
Xpac99 said on 31/Aug/19
Have you decided on giant haystacks?
Editor Rob
Yes, I think 6ft 8 in his 20's is feasible as he's of a size at which 30's through 40's he lost height.
Xpac99 said on 13/Aug/19
Rob what you have to see for decided to put him 6ft 8? The most important proof was vs listed 6ft 4 1/2 pat roach and listed 6ft 2 1/4 big daddy where giant haystacks was in flat boots and looked 6ft 8 or maybe over at times with these guys
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With elegant shoes
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It’s hard to believe that giant haystacks wasn’t 6ft 8 at peak
Editor Rob
As I say, when I get a chance to look at some more I will decide on it
Demon87 said on 11/Aug/19
6ft 11 is no sense but 6 ft 8 is ok. I don’t know what Rob is waiting to put him at 6ft 8.
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Next to a doorway
David Scarff said on 10/Aug/19
Haystacks lost height as he got older and heavier, he was a legitimate 6.11 in the 70s and was in the Guinness book of records, at the end of his career he stood about 6.8-6.9, there is a photo of him facing off against Andre the giant and they looked the same height, i met him once and i felt tiny and im 6.4
Demon87 said on 8/Aug/19
If you search giant haystacks on YouTube you find many videos about it.. vs pat roach, vs big daddy, interview e more.
In my personal opionion in all videos e pics always give a taller impression than kane and undertaker
Demon87 said on 5/Aug/19
I try to show you more evidence.. with pat roach he looks 6ft 8 maybe even over 6ft 8
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In this pic with big daddy you said in big Daddy’s page, he was near 6ft 8 and i agree.. but this are the footware
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Footware advantage for big daddy
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When he was 50 years old in wcw looks the same height of peak taker next to big show, but when he was young he was taller and skinny
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Editor Rob
At one point when I have time I will look for more earlier footage of him.
Demon87 said on 4/Aug/19
Are you still unsure on 6ft8 for his peak?
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With listed 6ft 4 1/2 pat roach
Editor Rob
I need to keep an eye out for some earlier stuff to decide on 6ft 8 or not.
Xpac99 said on 3/Aug/19
Yes just because Haystacks could have been a candidate for losing more height earlier (30's) i think 6 ft 8 is ok! At 50 years old when he was in wcw, with big show looks 6ft7 - 6ft 7 1/2 and even with big daddy looks near 6 ft 8 in old age... undertaker and kane at 50 years old both peak height 6ft 7 1/2 they look in 6ft 6-6ft 7 range and tyler mane peak height 6ft 8 and about 6ft 7 at 50 years old, probably looks shorter of what haystacks could do at the same age. Therefore i believe an upgrade is due to him
Xpac99 said on 31/Jul/19
Yes of course, i don’t say he was over 6 ft 8 because i’m not sure, but at peak height 6ft 8 like big cass and tyler mane i think is more correct.. at 50 years old looks near 6ft 8 maybe didn’t lost some height, but a fraction always is possible.
I'll make you the proposal to put him at 6ft 8 ( intended as maximum height) if you think so, of course
Editor Rob
6ft 8 isn't ruled out, he may well have been that in 20's...

Haystacks could have been a candidate for losing more height earlier (30's), given his huge weight.
Xpac99 said on 28/Jul/19
Big Rob 6 ft 7 1/2 is a peak height or halfway between his entire career? I sai this because Looks 6ft 7 1/2 in the 90’s when he was old, but in the 70/80’s looks 6 ft 8 range
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It’s normal lost height over 50
Could you put a peak height and the height before died
Editor Rob
6ft 7.5 or 8 I think could be argued his peak, but over 6ft 8 I am not convinced on.
Demon87 said on 27/Jul/19
This are taker and big show in 1999
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Big show With haystacks
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Xpac99 said on 25/Jul/19
Rob who had the possibility to measure taller when they was in peak height. Undertaker or haystacks
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 16/Apr/19
Rob, maybe 6ft8 was possible?
Editor Rob
In his prime he might have managed to measure that range, but 6ft 11 I find hard to imagine he ever measured.
Steven Wade said on 14/Apr/19
Rob wasnt Martin measured by The Guinness book of records at 6 foot 11 ?
Editor Rob
I've never seen if it was a measurement, though he certainly had been described as being that tall.
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/Jan/19
@Richard Thomas Here's Haystacks at another doorway... Click Here

Just for fun, here he is when he was closer to 6'6", along w/ 6'3" Rick Rude and 6'2" Sting:
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Richard Thomas said on 7/Dec/18
Yes that's the image, I would say even with the camera angle he definitely looks closer to his claimed height of 6'11 so is it possible to consider a change in his height from his current listing??
Richard Thomas said on 28/Nov/18
Editor Rob, there is a photo on Google (can't get the link to work, might be able to email you the link for you to post on here) where Haystacks is stood next to an open door way and the top of the door would be about level with the tip of his nose, the top of the doorframe in the photo is about level with his eye, so if the door is a standard sized door (around 6'6/6'7) then that would put Giant Haystacks height at about 6'11. Maybe Haystacks was been truthful with his height but because so many other wrestlers have their height adjusted that his stated height is automatically taken as been adjusted when it might not have been
Editor Rob
Is This the image I presume. I'm not sure just how high the door would be (if it's in the UK it will likely be 6ft 5 or 6. The angle is tricky with it.
JamesB172cm said on 28/Nov/18
Arch- a true giant would be someone like Andre, big show or even Kevin nash
Arch Stanton said on 25/Nov/18
JamesB172cm said on 23/Nov/18
He wasn’t really a true giant was he?

Over 2 metres tall and 600 pounds, that to me is a true giant, but I know what you mean, 6'7.5 is more extremely tall, 6 ft 10 + is probably true giant range.
JamesB172cm said on 23/Nov/18
He wasn’t really a true giant was he?
Editor Rob
Imagine telling that to his face 'You're no giant!'
Bazza said on 24/Aug/18
Good pic @tree... pat was a big guy and looks average next to stack. Stack was 6'7 minimum no doubt maybe close to 6'8 prime.
tree said on 13/May/18
Looked 6ft7.5 or 6ft8 with Pat Roach Click Here
Original Paul said on 14/Feb/18
Easily 6'8.5-9 in the c.1980 photo above, surprised Rob can't see it.
SMcM said on 10/Jan/18
Average guesses here seem too harsh. The listing for Big Daddy on this site is 6 foot 2.25, and Haystacks is a solid half a foot taller.
Richie said on 25/Dec/17
I met martin and the guy was huge..he had too duck under a standard 6'6 door by around 4-5 inches..he wore very flat boots with no heel..so all your prob 6'8 guesses are crap..hes 6'10 - 611..even carrying his colosal wieght and bad posture..he was with pat roach who is 6,5.. easily 5-6 taller that bomber roach.
dicksock said on 17/Dec/17
He looks about 6" taller than Big Daddy in the picture on this site. I'll say he was between 6'7" and 6'8" in his prime and between 6'6" and 6'7" towards the end. So about 6'7.5" peak and about 6'6.5" by his short run in WCW. No doubt he was a big man.
Gretz said on 15/Dec/17
Chaz, I don,t know but the year but Studd started taking HGH(Billy Graham even admits he knows this in a shoot interview). Because for some reason he thought it was safer than gear,however at the time 80 to 89? HGH was still harvested from cadavers which could possibly leave you exposed to a variant of mad cow disease.I think this contributed to Studd's death(eventually they came out with a synthetic form of HGH) just don't remember the year,I was so very into lifting at one point I use to correspond with Dan Duchaine a true genius who died to young from blights disease in 2004
.To this day he is responsible for a lot supplements on the market today and his underground book of steroids is like the first on the market.
DQ said on 8/Dec/17
giant haystacks in the photo with andre looks about 6ft9inch tall if at that time andre was 7ft 1 inch do we know if he was ever body slammed by any wrestler and what does paul wright have to say about wrestling haystacks
Anonymous said on 22/Nov/17
NO way in heck Giant Haystacks is freakin 6 foot 11 inches tall !!!!!!! 0.75 inches shorter than Big Show..... NO
2 Inches shorter than Shaq NO WAY!!!!

Giant Haystacks is 6,7. Look at him beside WCW Big Show no way Giant Haystacks is only a inch shorter he is 6,7.
Chaz said on 23/Oct/17
Kunoichi said on 13/Oct/17
It is a bad angle, Haystack and Giant Baba. In comparison with Baba, Haystack was taller than Tenta in ring gear.

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shame we can't find the full fight,and the short clip seems to have gone off the Net,
Kunoichi said on 13/Oct/17
It is a bad angle, Haystack and Giant Baba. In comparison with Baba, Haystack was taller than Tenta in ring gear.

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Kurgle said on 20/Aug/17
The Giant Haystacks was probably around 6'8 or even a bit more, when he was as skinny as man could be (it's hard to believe but he once was a really skinny and a really tall man). Then he started to wrestle and his "weight shot up through the roof" and he seemed to lose some of that height. But that's also due to the fact that he can never be seen wearing any kinds of lifts in his wrestling boots, unlike so many of his opponents. Sometimes his boots looked so flat that you'd think he was walking bare feet the whole time. Compare to that to the Big Daddy V boots (there are images of them while he wears them in a match), which were around 3 INCHES (it looked like he was wearing high heels) and you know why those wrestlers can look shorter or taller in the ring compared to each other at different times.

What comes to his weight, the Guinness book of records had him at his heaviest at 50 stone = 700 pounds and in some of the matches he looked that! If that kind of weight is hard to believe, you can google a Youtuber by the name of Boogie2988 who was at his heaviest 580+ pounds at around 5'8 tall and he was nowhere near the size of the 6'8 giant! A 6'4 guy who was legitimately 700 pounds (on the biggest loser TV show) didn't even look on the screen as massive as the Giant Haystacks at his heaviest. So the real weight of the Giant Haystacks might've been just an estimate, since they didn't have proper scales to keep up with his weight at the time ( and he was traveling all the time). Thus in the matches you could hear them announce some generic weight like 532 pounds (in the states) or the same stone weight (no matter how he looked) and it would be obvious to anyone who has seen what a 532 pound man a feet shorter looks like, that this Giant was easily 100-200 pounds heavier! A real giant for sure!
even said on 17/Jul/17
6'7.5" . heystacks weighed 650 pounds!
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 9/Jul/17
Two incredible physical specimens in that photo who moved very well for their sizes
even said on 7/Jul/17
heystack height = 202 cm
Logan said on 18/Jun/17
Big Daddy is 6,2
Logan said on 29/May/17
Looking at the picture Big Daddy looks 6,3-6,4 so Haystacks is probaly 6,8 but looking at pictures of Haystacks shows him being taller than a door so 6,11 NO.
Maybe he was wearing 2 inch soles like Kane but what if he was not then he will be still 6,8 maybe it's the camera angles and plus he weighs 600+ lbs that's a lot of weight on your joints so he is probaly hunched over so my final answer is 6,8 maybe 6,7.75
Chaz said on 18/Dec/16
dicksock said on 16/Dec/16 I am a very big boned, strong, heavy guy, and I've been over 300 lbs myself with a lot of muscle and bulk. I wrestled and played football until 18, and I know exactly what I'm talking about. You can believe me or not, but I'm telling you that in the video I posted, Haystacks was not over 400 lbs. You can pretend that he was, but I promise you he was not. Big Show still has some fat, a bigger bone structure, more height, and more muscle than Haystacks ever did. If Haystacks had some muscle in that video, he would have been about 400 lbs, but he didn't. His arms were small and flabby, and his legs and chest were not big at that time. A healthy Haystacks should have been about 275 lbs if he was lean and no more than 325 lbs if he bulked up in a healthy way. I can easily look at him and tell. I have been around huge guys and tall guys my whole life and if you think Haystacks was heavier in that video from 1976 than Big Show is now, you are the one who is clueless. At best, he was 375lbs and around 70 lbs of that was fat. As far as his height, he probably was 6'7.5" at his tallest and 6'6" by WCW. He probably did get up to 600 lbs at his heaviest, but again most of it was pure fat.

You must be jokeing 375lbs that is Vader and Kamala's weight,can you not see how much bigger and wider he is Next to Nagasaki ? he's twice as wide,look at he's ass,waist and chest? and legs? and that wide back he's more weight than him and the ref together,he just looks slim because we are used to seeing him 200lbs more in weight in the later 1980s,I have seen he's trying to get through a 6'6' by 2'6''door not only did he have to lower he's head but he had to turn sideways and squeeze through.
dicksock said on 16/Dec/16
Chaz said on 16/Dec/16
dicksock,you have not got a clue about body weight or what to look for,I have been around strong man and powerlifters since 1978,you name them I has seen them,Click Here

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I am a very big boned, strong, heavy guy, and I've been over 300 lbs myself with a lot of muscle and bulk. I wrestled and played football until 18, and I know exactly what I'm talking about. You can believe me or not, but I'm telling you that in the video I posted, Haystacks was not over 400 lbs. You can pretend that he was, but I promise you he was not. Big Show still has some fat, a bigger bone structure, more height, and more muscle than Haystacks ever did. If Haystacks had some muscle in that video, he would have been about 400 lbs, but he didn't. His arms were small and flabby, and his legs and chest were not big at that time. A healthy Haystacks should have been about 275 lbs if he was lean and no more than 325 lbs if he bulked up in a healthy way. I can easily look at him and tell. I have been around huge guys and tall guys my whole life and if you think Haystacks was heavier in that video from 1976 than Big Show is now, you are the one who is clueless. At best, he was 375lbs and around 70 lbs of that was fat. As far as his height, he probably was 6'7.5" at his tallest and 6'6" by WCW. He probably did get up to 600 lbs at his heaviest, but again most of it was pure fat.
Chaz said on 16/Dec/16
dicksock,you have not got a clue about body weight or what to look for,I have been around strong man and powerlifters since 1978,you name them I has seen them,Click Here laurence sharhlael on the right is 355lbs here and Terry Hollands is 416lbs,and Big Show don't train with weights anymore and he's not that Fat,you need Muscle or fat bulk to be high in body weight,he's lost both now,a big frame will just hold more weight,believe me I have never seen anyone Haystacks size,that that could walk anyway,
dicksock said on 15/Dec/16
Chaz said on 15/Dec/16
dicksock said on 3/Dec/16
Here is Haystacks before he got so fat:
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It's from 1976 and he's actually teaming with Big Daddy. He looks easily 6'7" or more to me. He looks under 400 lbs here for sure and looks to have about 100 lbs of fat. He had pretty small arms and legs before he gained so much mass from eating. Really, this guy should have never gotten over 300 lbs with his height, frame, and lack of muscle. If he were healthy and hit the weights a little bit, he would have looked pretty much like this: Click Here

Just look at the difference the fat made in these two pics:
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His incredible size at his largest was merely due to his ultra morbid obesity.

he's more than 400lbs there Big Daddy was about 345lbs then,and he's got a much bigger frame than Studd.and not juiced up to the eyeballs on roids,studd never had size 17 feet,and who is not saying he was not obes? and it's clear when he stands upright he's taller than most think,he's clearly 4'' taller than Pat Roach.and 300lbs is rubish I am 240lbs at 179cm,body fat 17% he was 360lbs when he was a doorman.


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Over 400lbs? You must be joking. Big Show is currently 395 lbs and he is significantly bigger boned, taller, and more muscular than Haystacks was in 1976. Haystacks had virtually no muscle in that clip. At best, he looked 375. He may have not had 100 lbs of fat in 1976, but he could have easily lost 50-75 lbs. I don't know what Big Daddy weighed, but I doubt he was 345 there. John Studd was not on steroids or HGH in the picture I posted. His physique in the late 70s would have been naturally attainable for Haystacks. Seriously, he was not over 400 lbs in 1976. I would bet anything on that. If Big Show is currently under 400lbs, there is no way in God's name Haystacks was over 400 lbs in the match I posted. Not a chance.
Chaz said on 15/Dec/16
and just incase anyone thinks Nagasaki was a Dwarf(dicksock)here he is with legit 6'2'' Steve Reagal and Brookside,tho here he's 18st about 255lbs,with thiner sholes and no hair,and I ment to say 200lbs light in the last post.Click Here
Chaz said on 15/Dec/16
Click Here Nagasaki is a big guy about 6'2'' 230lbs here,looks like a dwarf,easly 100lbs lighter,and you get a good view of Haystacks huge feet here,this is 1977.
Chaz said on 15/Dec/16
dicksock said on 3/Dec/16
Here is Haystacks before he got so fat:
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It's from 1976 and he's actually teaming with Big Daddy. He looks easily 6'7" or more to me. He looks under 400 lbs here for sure and looks to have about 100 lbs of fat. He had pretty small arms and legs before he gained so much mass from eating. Really, this guy should have never gotten over 300 lbs with his height, frame, and lack of muscle. If he were healthy and hit the weights a little bit, he would have looked pretty much like this: Click Here

Just look at the difference the fat made in these two pics:
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His incredible size at his largest was merely due to his ultra morbid obesity.

he's more than 400lbs there Big Daddy was about 345lbs then,and he's got a much bigger frame than Studd.and not juiced up to the eyeballs on roids,studd never had size 17 feet,and who is not saying he was not obes? and it's clear when he stands upright he's taller than most think,he's clearly 4'' taller than Pat Roach.and 300lbs is rubish I am 240lbs at 179cm,body fat 17% he was 360lbs when he was a doorman.
dicksock said on 3/Dec/16
Here is Haystacks before he got so fat:
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It's from 1976 and he's actually teaming with Big Daddy. He looks easily 6'7" or more to me. He looks under 400 lbs here for sure and looks to have about 100 lbs of fat. He had pretty small arms and legs before he gained so much mass from eating. Really, this guy should have never gotten over 300 lbs with his height, frame, and lack of muscle. If he were healthy and hit the weights a little bit, he would have looked pretty much like this: Click Here

Just look at the difference the fat made in these two pics:
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His incredible size at his largest was merely due to his ultra morbid obesity.
Chaz said on 16/Nov/16
Paul said on 15/Nov/16
You can compare GH here at 0:07. with Pat Roach (a known 6'4.5). You can draw a straight line across your PC screen to compare.
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Yes that is a good one,he comes up to only Haystacks eyes,so at least 4'' taller,so any talk of under this 6'7.5'' is way out, could even be 6'8.5'' Haystacks just never stands up in a match much,he pulls he's chin down,that makes he's standing height,much lower than it is,
Paul said on 15/Nov/16
You can compare GH here at 0:07. with Pat Roach (a known 6'4.5). You can draw a straight line across your PC screen to compare.
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Chaz said on 3/Oct/16
Click Here straightahead said on 2/Oct/16 that Haystacks could been wearing some filling inside his clothes to appear bigger.

there is no filling there you can see he's chest wobbling in this suite,it's not so covering,look at the size of those forearms and calves? and how wide he is next to the other Guy,I am 240lbs he's 3 times my weight and size,without being rude,he's got a double gut,you only get them on very big people.the thing with him is every part of him was big,legs back chest,gut arms,and side on huge,you look at anyone else side on,Andre,Big Show,Tenta,Calhoun,OMG,Viscera,this is what most people are missing he's much wider in girth,than all of them,
Chaz said on 30/Sep/16
Click Here how anyone can say Mabel/Viscera is Haystacks size just look at the thin legs and how quick he can moves about the ring,he's got a 1/3 less girth.you can tell when someone is huge they waddle when they walk,Haystacks can hardly move he's so big.
Chaz said on 30/Sep/16
straightahead said on 19/Sep/16
So now we are going to believe that he weighed as much as his BILLED WEIGHT as well?! (640 lbs) please... Mabel/Viscera was a legit 480-490 lbs and he was both taller and more massive than Haystacks, so was 500 lbs Akebono.

450 lbs and 6'5 tops for Haystacks

And he's top billed weight was 48st7lbs that is 679lbs not 640lbs he's heaviest listed weight has Britans heavist man was 46st 644lbs that was in 1988. he was at he's biggest from 1987-9,after that he's knees gave out and he never wreslted for 18 months ,in the WCW days I think he was more 579lbs than he's billed 679lbs he looks much bigger in the fight I posted.
Chaz said on 30/Sep/16
straightahead said on 19/Sep/16
So now we are going to believe that he weighed as much as his BILLED WEIGHT as well?! (640 lbs) please... Mabel/Viscera was a legit 480-490 lbs and he was both taller and more massive than Haystacks, so was 500 lbs Akebono.

450 lbs and 6'5 tops for Haystacks

You have no clue about size,both Akebono and Viscera have very thin legs,you need big ass and legs to

be Haystacks weight,that is why Bundy was 450lbs because he's legs and ass are massive even tho he's top was not that big,why do you think Haystacks was never slamed? in all the time he wrestled? because he's body was too wide for anyone to get there hands in the right position,and he was to heavy to spring up to help the lift,I have seen John Tenta,Paul Neu,(PN News)Glenn Ross when he was 465lbs, and they were nothing in size next to him,you would not see them if he was in front,
Chaz said on 29/Sep/16
sorry the last post went wrong,Click Here 450-500lbs lol is that without the legs dicksock? you must be joking,I have seen him,you can forget about the height,he was massive,never seen anyone so wide in my life,unlike people like Akibono,Cauhoun,Andre whos legs are not that big,he's legs are huge so are he's arms and calves,look at the size of he's back here,and how wide he is sideways,show me anyone that wide side on? he was every bit of 45st here.
Chaz said on 29/Sep/16
dicksock said on 21/Sep/16
Based on everything I've seen, I think Haystacks was about 6'7" at his tallest and maybe 500lbs at his heaviest. By WCW, he may have been down to 6'6" but still looked at least 450lbs and probably more. He was never as tall as Giant Baba, that's for sure. For a very brief amount of time, there was a short video clip of Baba and Haystacks wrestling, and Baba was taller for a fact.
dicksock said on 21/Sep/16
Based on everything I've seen, I think Haystacks was about 6'7" at his tallest and maybe 500lbs at his heaviest. By WCW, he may have been down to 6'6" but still looked at least 450lbs and probably more. He was never as tall as Giant Baba, that's for sure. For a very brief amount of time, there was a short video clip of Baba and Haystacks wrestling, and Baba was taller for a fact.

dicksock said on 21/Sep/16
Based on everything I've seen, I think Haystacks was about 6'7" at his tallest and maybe 500lbs at his heaviest. By WCW, he may have been down to 6'6" but still looked at least 450lbs and probably more. He was never as tall as Giant Baba, that's for sure. For a very brief amount of time, there was a short video clip of Baba and Haystacks wrestling, and Baba was taller for a fact.
500lbs lol is that with out he's legs?
dicksock said on 21/Sep/16
Based on everything I've seen, I think Haystacks was about 6'7" at his tallest and maybe 500lbs at his heaviest. By WCW, he may have been down to 6'6" but still looked at least 450lbs and probably more. He was never as tall as Giant Baba, that's for sure. For a very brief amount of time, there was a short video clip of Baba and Haystacks wrestling, and Baba was taller for a fact.
Chaz said on 18/Aug/16
straightahead said on 17/Aug/16
First, 6'4 was Quinn's BILLED height and second,

No he was not, he was billed at 6'5.5 and 6'6'' .and in Canada when he taged with Hulk Hogan they were both billed at 6'6'', but he was 6'4.5''. and it's no good posting things from 1996 and saying he never lost any height from 1977 or 1979,when you been humping 435-640lbs about for 20 years,and he's posture is very bad,you look in that fight when he stands upright a few times he's a forhead taller,how long is your forhead 1" lol mine is 4",and I am 5'10".I have seen him twice in 1987 and 1992. and I was right next to the door he come though in 1987 and he had to turn sideways to get though it and he was about 3'' taller than the 6'6'' door to the top of he's hair,and this was at 8,30 in the evening.
JT said on 18/Aug/16
This is Haystacks and Quinn standing in about the same point in the ring. Click Here I believe Quinn was billed at 6'5".

Below are screen caps where Haystacks (1996) was in the same Nitro event (but different matches) as Hogan Click Here and DDP Click Here
Chaz said on 16/Aug/16
Straightahead,don't talk rubish 6'4'' lol Click Here John Quinn is over 6'4'' here and Haystacks is 3-4'' taller.and Pat Roach was just as tall as Lewis and Haystacks had 3-4'' on him. and if you go find the 1977 Fight between Nagasaki and Haystacks befor he got too fat you will see he looks 6-7" taller he looks like a baby next to him.
Chaz said on 16/Aug/16
Pappy said on 11/Aug/16
Chaz: here is the picture that is being referred to:

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I know that photo,I said in 20 years I have not seen one were Andre looks 4'' taller,that is the only photo or film that seems to exist.were is this pre-fight interview with those two both being interviewed by the same guy, and Andre has about 4 inches on him,aaronius was talking about?
Pappy said on 11/Aug/16
Chaz: here is the picture that is being referred to:

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Chris said on 21/Jul/16
Why is everyone obsessed with claiming everyone is 3 inches shorter than they actually are.

I met Haystacks. He's gigantic. I'm 6'2 and he was massively taller than me. He's almost 7 feet
Chaz said on 14/Jul/16
aaronius said on 5/Jul/16
Ragnar, i know the picture you speak of, it was taken in new zealand... but Andre was leaning in and not standing up striaght, the angle makes Andre look shorter than he is.. theres a pre-fight interview with the those two both being interviewed by the same guy, and Andre has about 4 inches on GHaytacks, based on comparing the two pics.

Yes well post it on here,I have yet to see anyother photos of them in 20 years of looking.
aaronius said on 5/Jul/16
Ragnar, i know the picture you speak of, it was taken in new zealand... but Andre was leaning in and not standing up striaght, the angle makes Andre look shorter than he is.. theres a pre-fight interview with the those two both being interviewed by the same guy, and Andre has about 4 inches on GHaytacks, based on comparing the two pics
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 27/May/16
Might have peaked at 6ft8
Ragnar Ragnarson said on 16/Apr/16
I met Martin Ruane aka Giant Haystacks and I'm 6.4 and only just came up to his shoulders, he really was 6.11, in later years he started to stoop and lost about 2 inches as a result, I've got a picture of him face to face with Andre the giant from the late 70s early 80s and they're about the same height
Paul said on 28/Mar/16
There is considerable footage of him and other tall wrestlers e.g. Pat Roach, John Quinn and Anaconda (Alan Taylor) at 6'4.5, 6'4.75 and 6'5 respectively. Haystacks clears them all by 4' give or take.
6'7.5 or 8 was right for WCW days but 6'8.5+ in the 80's, maybe 6'9 in the 70's.
Oanh said on 1/Mar/16
Nige said on 9/Oct/15
I`ve walked 3 steps behind Giant Haystacks in a corridor when we went to see him at a wrestling match,this man in my opinion was 6ft 10- 6-11 " tall

I respect that's your opinion, but he was known to be 6'7"-6'8" tops
Nige said on 9/Oct/15
I`ve walked 3 steps behind Giant Haystacks in a corridor when we went to see him at a wrestling match,this man in my opinion was 6ft 10- 6-11 " tall
Jock said on 7/Oct/15
I have had a look at the Roach-Haystacks picture again, and 6-9 is a realistic height,
Chaz said on 30/Sep/15
Pat Roach was 6'4.5'' and I saw them in the ring in 1987 when haystacks stand straight which was not much in the bout he was at least 3'' taller
Oanh said on 20/Sep/15
6'2 said on 31/Jul/15
He was 6'10

LOL. He was 6'7" tops.
drummer7777 said on 9/Sep/15
Maybe someone could post the infamous match between Giant Haystacks & Andre The Giant.
Jock said on 3/Sep/15
GH is 6-8 to 6-9, Pat Roach stood 6-4, i saw them standing together and their was at least 4 inches between then,
definately not the billed 6-11.
6'2 said on 31/Jul/15
He was 6'10
Tom said on 22/Jun/15
I seem to remember him being on They Think It's All Over in the 'feel the sportsperson' section, and it was clear he was nowhere near the official 6'11" listed. More like 6'6.
Oanh said on 25/Apr/15
just because says on 13/Mar/15
Click Here he seems taller than a door maybe 6ft 8+

Yeah, I used to think that too when I would see that photo. The thing is, the angle/height at which the photo was taken gives the perception of him being taller than the doorway. Nonetheless, he was a solid 6'7".
Toecutter said on 25/Mar/15
Would love to have met the big guy rip.
Paul said on 18/Mar/15
Oh crikey just realised its that nutty one who I heard from b4 on the Nash page.
TBH you are not that far off although you have gone slightly beyond giving em a short back'n sides....
HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 14/Mar/15
Paul says on 9/Mar/15
If you are talking peak heights, the list below is, with the exception of Bulldog, a loada Bull.


Yeah I talk about peak barefoot height and the list is pretty realistic.

But keep on dreaming about larger than life hero´s, that´s what they suppose.
just because said on 13/Mar/15
Click Here he seems taller than a door maybe 6ft 8+
Paul said on 9/Mar/15
If you are talking peak heights, the list below is, with the exception of Bulldog, a loada Bull.
HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 28/Feb/15
Danimal says on 18/Jan/15
JT says on 23/Dec/14
Click Here

Regarding Wanz and Inoki:
Wanz with Andre, Hogan, and ~6’3” King Kong Bundy Click Here

Your 6'3" King Kong Bundy was 6'4".
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No he wasn´t.

Bundy was 190-191cm
Studd was 198-199cm
Hogan was 195-196cm
Andre was 210-211cm
Taker was 201-202cm
Haystacks 201-202cm
Sid was 200-201cm
Razor was 194-195cm
M. Morgan 202-203cm sometimes looking taller b/c inside lifts
Nathan J. 205-206cm
Bulldog 179-180cm
Bret H. 182-183cm
R. Piper 184-185cm
R. Flair 180-181cm
Perfect 185-186cm
Danimal said on 18/Jan/15
JT says on 23/Dec/14
Click Here

Regarding Wanz and Inoki:
Wanz with Andre, Hogan, and ~6’3” King Kong Bundy Click Here

Your 6'3" King Kong Bundy was 6'4".
Mick said on 17/Jan/15
I saw Big Daddy wrestling in 1990, admittedly towards the end of his career, at which point I do not believe he could have been as tall as 6 feet.

I saw Haystacks wrestling in 1989, just after wrestling had disappeared from the telly in the UK.

Again, I do not believe he could have been as tall as 6'7.5 at that point - nearer to 6'5 - 6'6 MAX I'd say.
Paul said on 1/Jan/15
A interesting article featuring the 6'2.25 Shirley Crabtree and supposedly a mere 5in or so taller Giant Haystacks.
Click Here
Happy New Year Folks.
HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 1/Jan/15
JT says on 30/Dec/14
Andre's closer to the camera in that pic with Hogan

That´s why I gave a range...

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Still no less than 2.5" more than Hogan whatever his true headlength is.
Hogan needs a max 9.5" head to make Andres 12" even. Chances are under 10% imo

But do what you did years ago and cut a bit of his acromegalic chin and a bit of his skull so it fits better with your agenda of bashing Andre -> joking a bit about the past but not untrue don´t you think?

But thanks for usually great stuff you share with this site!
JT said on 30/Dec/14
Andre's closer to the camera in that pic with Hogan, which is clear when comparing head sizes to the WMIII promo photo where they are nose to nose Click Here
Chaz said on 29/Dec/14
HeightcrazyRed6ft says on 26/Dec/14
Chaz says on 25/Dec/14

we are not counting the double chin,and Andre had a low forhead,about 3.75''.


No fat counted Click Here

Andre only had a low forehead compared to the rest of his face, not compared to a normal headsize.

In this pic Andre has his head down - eyeline way under the top of the ears so the top of his head is higher than in normal position.
Fact is doctors would measure his head length rather in this position than with a raised eyeline...

You don't need that to work out Andre's face,we know the size of he's hand,from the Japansse Mag,just under 10'' and we have see he's hands right next to he's face,which was at most 2'' longer,you seem to not understand on something that only avarage 9-9.5'' 1'' extra is masive,and Acromegalics face only grow in the jaw and head circumference,once the long bones have fused,the 6'' point on Ander's face is about 1cm over the tip of he's nose,

If Andre is looking short in photos next to other's it,s more likely Bad posture,and looking down,than him having a 13''face,it's the same there in that Haystacks,Sid comparason,Sid's bolt upright,and Haystacks has got he's head down taking in the mic 99% of that intervue.
HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 27/Dec/14
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peak Sid edging old Haystacks about 0.5"-max 0.75" here. Sid´s first billed height was 6´7" but I agree with Robs 6´6.5" ashe looked max 3.5" taller than 6´3" Lex Luger in the middle of the ring.

Imo Sids advantage over Haystacks is near all from his footwearadvantage so old Haystacks was 6´6.25"-6´6.5" in WCW.

Sid in the comparison had 1.75"-2" on 1992 Hogan that night, so Hogan was 6´4.5"-6´4.75" -his boots gave comparable height to Sid and it´s clear to see Hogan goes a bit on his tiptoes during the Wrestlemania 8 staredown.
HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 26/Dec/14
Chaz says on 25/Dec/14

we are not counting the double chin,and Andre had a low forhead,about 3.75''.


No fat counted Click Here

Andre only had a low forehead compared to the rest of his face, not compared to a normal headsize.

In this pic Andre has his head down - eyeline way under the top of the ears so the top of his head is higher than in normal position.
Fact is doctors would measure his head length rather in this position than with a raised eyeline...
Chaz said on 25/Dec/14
HeightcrazyRed6ft says on 24/Dec/14
Chaz says on 23/Dec/14
...Wanz comes up to Andre's bottom lip and he's got a 11.75''face

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11.75" lol, what´s Hogans headsize then, 8.5 inches?
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Hogan has noway under 10" head, so Andres head is between 12.5" and 13.25"

we are not counting the double chin,and Andre had a low forhead,about 3.75''. Hogan Should be just over the tip of the nose if he's 6'6'',and Andre's 7+ it's the same with Haystacks's and Big Show,if Haysttacks is only 6'6'' he would come just under the nose,if Big Show was 7',but he's comes over the nose,with 1'' less Heel.
Chaz said on 25/Dec/14
there is no more than 5'' between Big Show and a old Haystacks,barefoot,which is a lot,so we can work out in the 1970s Haystacks would have been at most 4'' shorter,so anything under 6'7'' is very unlikely,even if Big show's only 6'11''.
HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 24/Dec/14
Chaz says on 23/Dec/14
...Wanz comes up to Andre's bottom lip and he's got a 11.75''face

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11.75" lol, what´s Hogans headsize then, 8.5 inches?
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Hogan has noway under 10" head, so Andres head is between 12.5" and 13.25"
Paul said on 24/Dec/14
There is a photo on the web of Giant Haystacks and Andre in a face off from Sidney, Australia. This probably dates to the late 70's looking at the build of Haystacks. Andre is taller but not by a great deal. It is not the best angle and Andre not stood perfectly straight but you could imagine the difference to have been about 3in.
Paul said on 24/Dec/14
Andrew looks every bit of peak height in that photo, circa 7'0.
HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 24/Dec/14
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No cowboyboots, 5inches - but still footwear advantage to Andre ~ 0.5-1" imo
both not peak height.

Andre was 6´11"-6´11.5"peak evening height, Haystacks 6´7"-6´7.5"
JT said on 23/Dec/14
Chaz says on 23/Dec/14
....I have just had a good better look at that and Haystacks comes much higher up Show's nose than it first looks,it's only when Big show lifts he's Head there is about 6'' differanc when it's leveal he's up the middle of he's nose,and he's got about 1'' heel on Haystacks,there is at most 5'' between them.

In a full body shot with good posture for both, the difference is significant. Click Here Probably a good 1.25” or so under the foot pivot point for Big Show and a little under 0.5” under the foot pivot point for Haystacks.

Click Here Andre's heels are more than 2x Gene's so at least 2” under the foot pivot point for Andre.
Paul said on 23/Dec/14
Big Show was pushing 7'1 at one time in the mid 90's (now 6'11) and 5in (circa 6in with heel advantage) taller than GH at the time. I believe GH final height was 6'7.5-75in and started out in the ring at 6'9 roughly 20 years earlier. Daddy 6'2.25, by mid 80's 6'2 even, early 90's maybe nearer 6'1.5.
JT said on 23/Dec/14
Click Here

Regarding Wanz and Inoki:
Wanz with Andre, Hogan, and ~6’3” King Kong Bundy Click Here
Inoki and Seiji Sakaguchi (I believe Chris on this site said he was 6’5” or was at least billed at that height) Click Here Inoki looked around 6’1” with Muhammad Ali.
Chaz said on 23/Dec/14
Otto Wanz is 6'2" than how tall are Andre and Antonio Inoki according to you?
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Inoki was 6'1.5''. 1'' shoter than Ali, and as Wanz comes up to Andre's bottom lip and he's got a 11.75''face,and Andre's got thicker boot's so he's about 6'10''
HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 23/Dec/14
Chaz says on 22/Dec/14
Click Here here you can see Tony in the ring with 6'2'' Otto Wanz

24:45 onwards, if Wanz is 6´2" than Vader is 6´4.5"

Wanz 6´1", Tony 6´2", Vader 6´2"-6´2.5"

Daddy about 6´1" maybe a little less with Haystacks
Chaz said on 23/Dec/14
Bud says on 22/Dec/14
At 2:15 with peak 7ft Big Show Click Here

I have just had a good better look at that and Haystacks comes much higher up Show's nose than it first looks,it's only when Big show lifts he's Head there is about 6'' differanc when it's leveal he's up the middle of he's nose,and he's got about 1'' heel on Haystacks,there is at most 5'' between them.
RoelC said on 22/Dec/14
Chaz says on 21/Dec/14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SgRSXhq_q0 Tony St Clair is not 6'1'' he's over 6'2''
Chaz says on 22/Dec/14
Tony was 190cm

You can claim he's over 6'2" all you like, the fact is he was listed at 6'1".
In Germany he was billed 187-188cm and in Japan I believe he was listed even below that height. So according to you all those wrestling organizations billed him below his actual height. He looks no taller than 6'1" next to 5'4" Jim Breaks. If he's close to 6'3", than Breaks is actually 5'6" (or again, also billed below his actual height).

It amazes me that on the Andre the Giant board you claim every wrestler in the WWF was inches below his billed height and in Andre's case 100 lbs below his billed weight, yet when it comes to British wrestlers you actually claim they were billed below their actual height & weight.

If Otto Wanz is 6'2" than how tall are Andre and Antonio Inoki according to you?
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Bud said on 22/Dec/14
At 2:15 with peak 7ft Big Show Click Here
Chaz said on 22/Dec/14
Click Here here you can see Tony in the ring with 6'2'' Otto Wanz there are lots of shots of them next to each over,and he's taller in all of them look at 4,40 sec, and the Other Guy is 6'2.5-3''ish Vader and Tony is just as tall as him, if you want a 6' Big Daddy you need a 6' Kendo Nagasaki,and that is out of the Question,he's not 1cm under 6'2'' I have seen him over 20 times in an out of the ring,and he's much taller than me,and I 5'11.5'' in shoes. Tony was 190cm he may be 6'1'' now he's 70+
Chaz said on 21/Dec/14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SgRSXhq_q0 Tony St Clair is not 6'1'' he's over 6'2'' here he is with 6'3'' Dave Taylor, and I do not know why people keep posting photos from the the mid 1990s of Haystacks and claming that he's peak height,you cannot hump 200-300kg about for 20 years and still be the same height when you are 48,we have allready worked out he's evening height from then is about 6'6.5''down from about 6'7'5'' from the 1970s, and I said 6'8.5'' out of bed not he's standing height,I lose 2cm from morning to evening,and I am only 17st not 40st,
HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 20/Dec/14
Chaz says on 19/Dec/14
yer say much for your Haystacks raised eyeline it's still the same when they are faceing each


6" maybe 6.3" is possible in the face to face pic, but clearly the back to back is way better to measure and it shows 5.75" ok lets say 6" but no exaggaration to 7" fanboydreams of a 6´8"-9" Haystacks.

Rob nailed it pretty good for his peak with 6´7.5", I could see him edging peak Undertaker...


Thanks Kunoichi, great Info imo as legit as it gets!

JT´s comparison is one of my favorits, so Akebono at solid 6´8"/ 203-204cm clearly shows Big Show at weak 6´11.5" /211-212cm - 8cm gap there

Haystacks looks 6cm-6.5cm smaller, but with footwear disadvantage, imo he also looks to edge Tenta so 6´6.5"/199cm is a pretty fair guess for WCW Haystacks
RoelC said on 20/Dec/14
Regarding Big Daddy's height. Here's a picture of him standing next to Tony St. Clair and Jim Breaks.
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Tony St. Clair was mostly listed at 6'1". Jim Breaks was only 5'4". Daddy looks 1 inch shorter than St. Clair and at best 8 inches taller than Breaks.
This picture was taken in 1977 when Breaks won the Welterweight Cup.

Haystacks with 5'10 2/3" (177cm) soccer player Gary Lineker (on the right).
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This is from 1995.
Paul said on 20/Dec/14
I recognise some of the people in the first photo link besides GH and Regal. Regal is about 6'3 at least in the late 1980's, may have lost 1/2 in or so since. You have Brian 'Crusher Mason' aka Mighty Chang there and I think Orig Williams.
The second photo compares Bi Show at 211cm (current) with Big Show mid 1990's at around 215cm. GH was definitely taller than John Tenta (third photo).
Kunoichi said on 20/Dec/14
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Chaz said on 19/Dec/14
yer say much for your Haystacks raised eyeline it's still the same when they are faceing each other,with Daddy looking up Click Here he's under the nose in both photos,no less that 6.5-7''
JT said on 19/Dec/14
Click Here I stood next to Regal probably 7-8 years ago. He looked about 6’2”. Regal’s head is too small for him to be equidistant from the camera as Haystacks. Who knows if he’s on his toes though.

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The soles on Haystacks’ boots in WCW were very thin so that has to be taken into consideration.
Chaz said on 18/Dec/14
HeightcrazyRed6ft says on 18/Dec/14
Chaz says on 18/Dec/14
That is rubish,from the tip of my nose to the top of my head is 6'' that is on a 9.25'' face and 179cm height



Then you didn´t realize that Haystacks raises his eyeline bigtime, from the raised eyeline to the top of his head is max 4 inches and Daddy is a little less than 2 inches under his eyeline...
just do the math

I have done the maths,and Daddy has got he's head raied to,you run a line across and you will see it's comes to Haystacks top lip,which would be 7''+ and I have taken .5'' off,if 1'' below Haystacks nose from the top of he's head is only 5.75'' you can forget Andre having 5'' over Hogan because he's up the top of he'e nose, and Mane on that comparason he's eyeline's much higher than anyone,so that must be useless to use,

the way I see it Haystacks 1970s 6'8.5'' morning 6'7'5'' evening,1990s 6'7.5'' morning 6'6.5'' evening,
Paul said on 18/Dec/14
By say the mid 1980's Daddy was 188cm, Giant Haystacks 204-5cm.
HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 18/Dec/14
Chaz says on 18/Dec/14
That is rubish,from the tip of my nose to the top of my head is 6'' that is on a 9.25'' face and 179cm height



Then you didn´t realize that Haystacks raises his eyeline bigtime, from the raised eyeline to the top of his head is max 4 inches and Daddy is a little less than 2 inches under his eyeline...
just do the math
Paul said on 18/Dec/14
Chaz says on 18/Dec/14
There is no dount Drew was bigger than he looked in weight,he's got masive legs hips and ass,bit like small Bundy, that is why he could squat 800lbs raw,
Drew could squat 800lbs ? Certainly had some power in the legs I suppose.
Chaz said on 18/Dec/14
Paul says on 17/Dec/14
Here is Drew at 26 stone. About as 'slim' as you can get for a fat man at 6'1 and sometimes would have equalled or sometimes outweighed Daddy (by up to 2 stone) in their earlier mostly non televised matches although always lighter by late 1987 onwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykC80sTHozQ

There is no dount Drew was bigger than he looked in weight,he's got masive legs hips and ass,bit like small Bundy, that is why he could squat 800lbs raw,
Chaz said on 18/Dec/14
HeightcrazyRed6ft says on 17/Dec/14
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Haystacks has 5.75" max on Daddy, not 6-7"

Daddy comes out 5" taller than Rob in this comparison, don´t forget Mane has 0.6" footwear advantage so putting Haystacks taller is very unrealistic.

Haystacks 6´7-6´7.5" peak, 6´6" wCW
Big Daddy 6´1"-6´1.5" next to Haystacks

That is rubish,from the tip of my nose to the top of my head is 6'' that is on a 9.25'' face and 179cm height, Daddy comes below that.and Haystacks must have a longer face than me,there is no less than 6.5'' between them,had that is if he's face is only my size and Daddy was never has low as 6'1'' even in the 1980s
Paul said on 17/Dec/14
Here is Drew at 26 stone. About as 'slim' as you can get for a fat man at 6'1 and sometimes would have equalled or sometimes outweighed Daddy (by up to 2 stone) in their earlier mostly non televised matches although always lighter by late 1987 onwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykC80sTHozQ
RoelC said on 17/Dec/14
Vegas says on 11/Dec/14
roel have you seen any decent shots of haystacks/daddy and fit finlay together. i met finlay couple of years back so he would be a good measuring stick

No I haven't seen any decent shot of these three together. The only footage I've seen is the video that Chaz posted.
HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 17/Dec/14
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Haystacks has 5.75" max on Daddy, not 6-7"

Daddy comes out 5" taller than Rob in this comparison, don´t forget Mane has 0.6" footwear advantage so putting Haystacks taller is very unrealistic.

Haystacks 6´7-6´7.5" peak, 6´6" wCW
Big Daddy 6´1"-6´1.5" next to Haystacks
Paul said on 15/Dec/14
Drew McDonald generally varied in weight from around 20st to 26st and heavier than he looked and 6'1 tall. He was very solid and surprisingly as heavy as Daddy in the 1987 match with Red Ivan and Danny Collins. Daddy was indeed a totally different build and between 24.5-28st in the early 80's and not the 23st usually suggested on old promotional material. In one tag match wearing a yellow leotard against Mal Kirk and co he looked close to bursting point, such was the girth. I watched some matches again on YouTube and could tell he was typically around 24st in 1987 rising to typically around 25st in 1988 give or take.
Chaz said on 15/Dec/14
Finlay was one of the best Wreslers,he's timeing was allways spot on,and could realy wind the crowd up,


Daddy with Steve RegalClick Here look at 2,40 Secs they are side by side and Regal as got more hair and thiker boots,

the thing is we know from he's army records he was 6'2.5'' in the 1950s and anyone he's next to in the 1980s that are in the 187-190cm he's about the same height,give or take 0'5'' and in the back to back shot of him with Haystacks from 1977 he's 6-7'' shorter,even if Daddy was down to 6'1.5'' in 1977 Haystacks was 6'7.5''+ in that photo,
Vegas said on 14/Dec/14
i have seen that video but there really isn't any frame to compare height there given the camera is so high above the ring and its very hard to find a spot where guys are exactly aligned so no-one is getting an advantage. 2min 17-18 seconds looks to be about the best comparison between finlay and haystacks..daddy and finlay maybe 2min 55 seconds but its not perfect

drew mcdonald looks like he would be around my height (~6ft in shoes) comparing him to finlay, again its very difficult to determine rightly or wrongly if that is the case.

off topic but finlays selling for daddy in that match was just fantastic, even curt hennig in his prime would have applauded that.
Chaz said on 14/Dec/14
I am going by what I know Drew said he's weight was,he used to do a bit of powerlifting,and was 141kg for those,that's about 312lbs,and he lost a lot of weight in about 2006,and people were thinking he was ill,but he said "I am not ill I have gone from 22st3lbs to 241lbs for heath and fittess Reasons" but Daddy was allways under billed in weight,he was well over 27st in later years,he was over 19st in 1954 in he's first stint as a wrestler,befor he had problems with Bert Asarati,
Paul said on 13/Dec/14
Kent Walton announced Drew McDonald as 25st in that match and if he doesn't weight quite that much he isn't far off. Daddy you can derive as 27st as Kent said the teams were 56st vs. 52st.
Chaz said on 12/Dec/14
Click Here Finlay,Daddy, Haystacks,and 6' 22st Drew Mcdonald,Finlay looks like a shortass next to Daddy.
Chaz said on 12/Dec/14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-91b9ocfU I fownd this of the 6'5'' Alan Taylor when he was over 25st from 1991
Paul said on 11/Dec/14
He was originally about 205-6cm and 202cm was final height or there about. He looked about 204-5cm in the 1980's. It was a colossal weight to carry round year in year out that in turn generally went up from the low 30's stones in the 1970's up to 40 or so by the early 80's and generally varied between 42-46 stone, even on occasions perhaps 48-49 stone thereafter and apparently according to Guinness World Records, once claimed to be 50 stone.
Vegas said on 11/Dec/14
always thought rude was around 6'3 but really its neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things

roel have you seen any decent shots of haystacks/daddy and fit finlay together. i met finlay couple of years back so he would be a good measuring stick
Chaz said on 10/Dec/14
Click Here Tony St Clair was taller than Steve Reagal,and Ian Muir was over 5'10'' Haystacks here looks taller than 6'7.5'' He lost helght after 1990 but he's not anything under 202cm here in the late 1970s
RoelC said on 9/Dec/14
Chaz says on 9/Dec/14
So what are you saying then Haystacks was only 6'3''? and Big daddy was only 5'8''? that would make Pat Roach 6' and John Quinn 6', like I have said I have seen Haystacks turn sideways and duck he's head to get in a 6'6''x 2'6'' door and that was 1987,at Lewisham Theatre,

Where exactly in my post am I claiming 6'3" for Haystacks. I didn't state any height for Haystacks.

But I don't think he's 6'7.5", let alone the 6'8.5" you're giving him. My guess is he's somewhere between 6'6" and 6'7".
Chaz said on 9/Dec/14
RoelC says on 6/Dec/14
These pics are from a WCW UK tour in December 1991.
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Sting & Rick Rude are both ~6'2". In the first pic Rude is probably standing on his toes. I'm not seeing a 6'7.5" man in those pics, even if Haystacks is standing further behind.

6'7.5" looks too high for Haystacks. He certainly doesn't look it here next to Dynamite Kid, who was ~5'9".
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So what are you saying then Haystacks was only 6'3''? and Big daddy was only 5'8''? that would make Pat Roach 6' and John Quinn 6', like I have said I have seen Haystacks turn sideways and duck he's head to get in a 6'6''x 2'6'' door and that was 1987,at Lewisham Theatre,
RoelC said on 6/Dec/14
These pics are from a WCW UK tour in December 1991.
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Sting & Rick Rude are both ~6'2". In the first pic Rude is probably standing on his toes. I'm not seeing a 6'7.5" man in those pics, even if Haystacks is standing further behind.

6'7.5" looks too high for Haystacks. He certainly doesn't look it here next to Dynamite Kid, who was ~5'9".
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Chaz said on 2/Dec/14
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover says on 1/Dec/14
He looked about 6ft6 range in that match w/h Big Daddy.
I wouldn't have even guessed him this big let alone that pathetic 6ft11

what Match?they had about 30 over the years and were Tage Partners in the mid 1970s.and there is a Back to back photo from about 1977 on here and it's clear he's at least 6-7'' taller than Daddy at that time,so he was no less than the height on this page.if not 1'' taller.
Paul said on 1/Dec/14
You need some Dennis Taylor style glasses. Big enough.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 1/Dec/14
He looked about 6ft6 range in that match w/h Big Daddy.
I wouldn't have even guessed him this big let alone that pathetic 6ft11
Chaz said on 17/Nov/14
Paul says on 13/Nov/14
Yes seen the clip thanks it was the only one I could find.
Hmmn...Also noted the commentator, that was a surprise.

Dave Lee Travis he was 6'3''ish Capes only compeated 3 times 79.81.and 1983,he's in the others as commmentator ,that is were he's saying Taylor was very tall.

Big Show's boots were about 1.5'' but I have just looked again at that Big Show Stax and I just noticed that as they move away from the eye to eye the camara is not in the middle as it first looks the camara is allready behind Show's back as it moves,so he's neara the Camara, not saying he's would gain more than an inch from it but he would gain some, and to get Stax peak height you need photos from 1967-1977,after 1979 he just got bigger and bigger so would lose lot of height over the day,
Paul said on 17/Nov/14
I think Big Show used to wear significantly heeled boots in the WCW days. I agree Big Show was 7'0.5 to 7'1 at the time although mo more than 6'11 today. I think also GH lost hight over the years due to pressure on the back from such high bodyweight. I recalled Rob speculating on the same phenomenon concerning Leon White.
Danimal said on 17/Nov/14
Whatever he was in the mid/late 90's, Big Show completely towered over him at that stage. Then again, Big Show was at least 7'0.5" at that time.
Paul said on 16/Nov/14
Rob, how about pages for Shirley Crabtree and Mal Kirk. Crabtree seems slightly taller than Mal Kirk who was from Pontefract and used to be employed as a nightclub bouncer in the 80's as did Haystacks in the 70's.
Paul said on 13/Nov/14
Yes seen the clip thanks it was the only one I could find.
Hmmn...Also noted the commentator, that was a surprise.
Chaz said on 12/Nov/14
Paul says on 11/Nov/14
Well I didn't know that about Taylor, Thanks for the info.
Taylor weighed around 25 stone at times. Sadly passed away I believe in 2012.
Still sticking with me estimates though.

If you go on youtube and type in Dinnie Stones,Britans Strongest man 1982,you will find a clip of it ,he was 320lbs 23st in it but like you say 25st at times
Paul said on 11/Nov/14
Well I didn't know that about Taylor, Thanks for the info.
Taylor weighed around 25 stone at times. Sadly passed away I believe in 2012.
Still sticking with me estimates though.
Chaz said on 10/Nov/14
I think Quinn was 6'4'5'' and 6'5.5'' in shoes,he was about the same height as Hogan when they taged in Canada were he was billed as 6'6''.but Alan Taylor was 6'5'' he was in the 1982 Britains Strongest Man,were Geoff Capes says about him "he's very tall the same height as me" that was the first year the BBC took over the programe from ITV
Paul said on 30/Oct/14
Seen that link. Not the most authoritative. I find it hard to believe that dude had only 2in on BD at 6'2 in their 1979 bout. It is on the internet for all to see.
Paul said on 29/Oct/14
An internet page has him at 1.96m. I have heard Kent Walton mention both 6'5 and 6'5.5. GH looked around 9cm taller in 1980's bouts.
Vegas said on 29/Oct/14
Paul says on 19/Oct/14
Haystacks lined up with other wrestlers including 197cm John Quinn
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quinn described as 6'4 in this piece Click Here
Chaz said on 27/Oct/14
I don't think Quinn was 197cm he was more 194-5cm same as Pat Roach and Haystacks was a good 3'' taller than both of them,but for sure in 1977 when he was only 31st he towers over Nagasaki and I have see Kendo at least 20 times over the years and he was at least 6'1.5''-6'2''
Paul said on 22/Oct/14
As Daddy was 6'2 as per Chaz's second link below it is a rather strange supposed difference of only 5.5in - he is not particularly close to Haystacks eye line. He was about 6'9 at tallest much later 6'7'75 possibly 6'8 by 1995-6 WCW.
Chaz said on 10/Oct/14
Click Here that door is 6'6''
Paul said on 3/Oct/14
Originally a good 7' on Crabtree who was 187-188cm.
Others: Nagasaki 187cm,Tony St Clair 191cm,Dave Taylor 191cm ,Seve Regal 190cm, Wanz(187-188cm),and Ray Steele similar to Wanz.
Chaz said on 2/Oct/14
Click Here

This is Haystacks at he's peak height about 1977ish he's about 6.5-7'' taller than Daddy,who was about the same height as Nagasaki,Tony St Clair,Dave Taylor,Seve Regal, Oto Wanz,and Ray Steele.
Paul said on 29/Sep/14
As regards GH, 6'7.5 relates to final height. Other wrestlers generally have the best insight into these matters in shoot interviews. Mick McManus said 6'9 for GH which was correct in the 1970'/80's. All that bodyweight puts pressure on the back over an extended time period. At least 3.5in on John Quinn and Anaconda aka Alan Taylor years ago. Sometimes with Rob you only get last or current height such as Undertaker and sometimes peak and current e.g Hogan.
Mark said on 27/Sep/14
There was a News of the World supplement magazine which had a piece on height gulf between partners. Martin R was on this and he was stated as 6'7. Owing to the content this height must be pretty darn accurate as if anything would have inflated to make more of a story. I'm sure if anyone wanted to corroborate what I've said the magazine could be researched.
TNTinFL said on 23/Sep/14
Rule of thumb when it comes to pro wrestlers is the 2 inch rule. Usually, the almost always inflate their height by two inches.
The Rock claimed height: 6'5". Real height: 6'3"
Triple H claimed height: 6'4". Real height: 6'2"
Undertaker claimed height: 6'10". Real height: 6'8-ish"

A lot of the smaller wrestlers use the same 2 inch 'pump'.
Vegas said on 23/Sep/14
the 1982 edition of guinness book of records has haystacks listed at an "unconfirmed" weight of 40 stone or 560lb
Chaz said on 23/Sep/14
about time he was on here,he was billed from 31st-46st but was weighd in 1988 at 46st 8lbs that is 652lbs,but clamed to be 700lbs at one time,I don't think that is true because he was out of wrestling from 1989 for 18months with knee problems,and had to lose weight I don't think he was has massive after 1988,even in the WCW days I think he was about 580-600lbs then
Arch Stanton said on 23/Sep/14
Excellent addition, could certainly look 500 pounds range. I guessed him at 6 ft 8 once I think, I knew 6'11" wasn't right!
Sam said on 22/Sep/14
Any idea on this guy's weight? 400 lb. looks very conservative.
[Editor Rob: his weight listings are all over the place, from almost 500 up to almost 700 :)]

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