How tall is Sylvester Stallone

Sylvester Stallone's Height

5ft 8.5in (174 cm)

Peak height was 5ft 9in (175.3 cm)
American actor best known for The Rocky, Rambo and Expendable series, Cliffhanger, Demolition Man, Judge Dredd and Cobra. In a 1991 interview with Longevity magazine he said "I'm 5'10" and in a 1993 edition of the New York Times added a fraction, saying "I'm exactly 5 feet 10 1/2 inches", although he once pushed his luck in a 1978 Playboy article claiming to stand "Five feet ten and three quarters tall.", on meeting him, said "Sly, shorter than you expect at 5-foot-eight", which he even mentioned himself: "I'm shorter and skinnier than you Expected". His footwear has always been a source of contention and in a 1990 Chicago Times article, the journalist mentioned "The real-life Rambo is an official 5 foot 10 1/2 inches tall, but that is with the generous boost of what can only be described as elevator shoes". Indeed, a specialist Italian shoemaker once commented that he "made him 4.5 inches taller for 16 years!". Sly's penchant for lifts dates back to the 1970's, with fellow actor Kevin Conway remarking that Sly was only 5ft 9 and "wears lifts all the time". Sly himself even joked about it once, when commenting upon the size of Rocky IV co-star Dolph Lundgren:"I'm fighting with elevator shoes on, this is ridiculous." There are definitely several tricks to looking taller, one of which was highlighted by Expendables 3 co-star Kelsey Grammar, who said Sly was a great guy, "Except when he changed the camera angle a little bit to make me look shorter."

In the screenwriter William Goldman's book 'About Lies Stars Tell', he offered his own estimation of Sly's stature, saying "I had a hot lead that Sly was 67 inches," revealing his source to be a jogger of similar stature to Sly. Goldman described how he ventured into a swimming pool that Sly was in...and 10 minutes later, "He got out, grabbed a towel. I got out, grabbed a towel. He stood. I stood. Sixty-seven inches. Dripping wet." That estimate is shared by Hulk Hogan, who casually called Sly "Five Six/Five Seven" and also by an Amateur Boxer who worked on Rocky V, saying he was stunned at the shortness of Stallone and towered above him: "I always pictured him as being a big guy. But I'm 5-foot-9 and I was two-three inches taller than him."

An ex-partner of Sly - Supermodel Janice Dickenson - claimed in her book 'Everything about me is fake' that when Sly was trying to pick her up, she recalled "Who was this guy to go dissing me while he's standing there in his custom-made elevator shoes." and also that "I couldn't believe how short he was". Another actress, Melinda Dillon - from F.I.S.T - commented in The Chicago Tribune that "I'm taller than Sly and that bothers him and we kid about it so I take off my shoes in some scenes. I can't slouch or I wouldn't be Anna. She's very upright."

Fellow action stars have even chimed in on his hard-to-pin-down height, most notably Jean Claude Van Damme, who once said "I'm 5-foot-10, a good size for movies. If you're too big a guy, it's hard to find good villains. That's why Stallone always has good villains. He's short."

Sylvester Stallone is 5ft 9
Sly with brother Frank (who claimed 6ft 1)
Photo by PR Photos

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Average Guess (211 Votes)
Peak: 5ft 8.94in (175.1cm)
Current: 5ft 8.11in (173cm)
Slim 185 said on 19/Nov/17
Hijopotamus said on 14/Nov/17
@slim184, I said “looks” short, not that he is short. Damon and Sly look short and other people their height look tall because of their type of body.
Yeah pretty much 5’9” is below average/average in the West, but I was a 5’9”er last year and didn’t look short because I’m thin and short torso’d. Damon and sly have thick long waists and appear shorter due to that. PS, 185 isn’t average in France, 😂
Pierre said on 18/Nov/17
@Scoobidoo(comment 15 Nov 2017) =or there is another reason = Harrison is under 5"11' now.See eventually the pics i posted in Harrison's page
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Nov/17
As for height, he still looks about 5'8.5" last I've seen in numerous comparisons and can pull off up to 2" taller even now when he wears lifts -- see him with Michael Rooker and brother Frank this year. Maybe 1/4" less at about 5'8.25", but he still looks every bit as tall as Statham in no more footwear. Watching Rocky Balboa again I noticed that despite Sly wearing lifts in his boxing shoes, he really didn't look short next to a tall man like Antonio Tarver. Imo, he looked too tall to not be around 5'9" or a minimum 5'8.5". I believe lifts in boxing shoes helped, but there's a limit.

As for the allegation, I'd wait for more details before condemning Sly. Imo, it's important to know if she still maintains this happened TODAY. It's also worth noting that the girl's own story was that she had consensual sex with Stallone, but nto his bodyguard Mike De Luca and as far as the threat, she initially thought it was a joke, but then changed her mind for some as of now, unknown reason. Was that her own paranoia and/or immaturity after the fact? That definitely needs more explanation because I would think if it were important enough for Sly to threaten her, he'd make it clear, although this too is conjecture on my part. But the reports so far suggest this is ambiguous. Then we're left with her age. To be sure, even though the age of consent is 16 in Nevada, it would not be Sly's finest moment if it was confirmed he had sex with a 16 year old, but it'd still be important to know if he knew she was 16 or had reason to believe she was around that age. I don't think anyone would deny that there have always been 16 year olds who can get served in bars and pass for much older and realistically, nobody proofs girls before having sex with them. So we need more details to know if we're talking about something more like Rob Lowe or something predatory, if anything happened at all. It's important to remember that in 1986, when this allegation was made, Sly was THE biggest movie star in the world coming off both the 2nd and 3rd biggest films in 1985 before signing a record $12 million per movie deal with Canon, which due to the wildly inflationary monetary policy since is the equivalent of $25-30 million today. Being that prominent makes you a target and it's nothing new. At least one of the allegations against Michael Jackson appeared false for instance. In Sly's case, the Vegas police didn't think there was enough evidence to move forward, which prove it's false, but also shows it is far from being proven true. Of course, I've condemned Hollywood as among the most immoral industries for years so while I'd be disappointed if I learned that included Stallone, it'd be naive to say I could have had any indication what a man I don't know personally has done when the cameras aren't around. Point being, I'm personally waiting for more facts. If he truly is like the worst of his peers then it's almost a certainty there will be more convincing evidence forthcoming. Unfortunately, De Luca is dead, which makes it more difficult to know exactly what happened and as of now, Sly's accuser is unnamed. Remember, there's a reason people have a right to face their accuser.

As for Mel Gibson, actually, I'd have expected him to be one of the first names out there because there's MANY who have wanted to take him down for a good 15-20 years now. We'll have to see, but I think it's premature to start saying anything about Mel, far more premature than even Stallone. To be sure, Mel has his issues, but I've yet to hear a real allegation of him being a sexual predator.
Brad said on 18/Nov/17
Get $immons to hype the growth pills. I wonder if Meal and Where Man pay G well to get scribbles.
burby said on 18/Nov/17
Wasn't Zito still bodyguarding post conviction? Any celeb that hires him deserves Lovitz face.
MJKoP said on 18/Nov/17
And on the subject of cryptozoology, here's a nice little excerpt from wiki-

Paleontologist George Gaylord Simpson listed cryptozoology among the examples of human gullibility, along with creationism:

"Humans are the most inventive, deceptive, and gullible of all animals. Only those characteristics can explain the belief of some humans in creationism, in the arrival of UFO's with extraterrestrial beings, or in some aspects of cryptozoology. … In several respects the discussion and practice of cryptozoology sometimes, although not invariably, has demonstrated both deception and gullibility. An example seems to merit the old Latin saying 'I believe because it is incredible,' although Tertullian, its author, applied it in a way more applicable to the present day creationists.[17]"

Looking at George Simpson's own wiki page, I'd pay good money to watch G label that man as a "hack" while he effortlessly maintains a straight face. Is it really such a stretch(pun totally intended) that he thought he was 1.5 inches more than he actually was? 'My friends say I can look 5-9' is entirely believable compared to his other ideologies(in no small part due to the fact that he wore lifts and/or elevator boots, so if he had "friends" who were half as worthless at judging height as he was, then I'll happily buy that statement in a New York minute).
MJKoP said on 18/Nov/17
Editor Rob: I'm thinking of starting a line in Height Potions and will certainly need some Guinea Pigs. I'm certain our old friend G would be first in line to offer to test out my 'Bigfoot Vitality', 'YetiMax' and 'Captain Caveman' pills 💪

actually that reminds me Will Ferrell once mentioned he had a bully who he thought was going to shrink him by throwing 'shrinking powder' on him!

It worked for Alex Jones....I mean, scam-wise; though it'd be pretty hard to pawn a miracle-grow-esque pill when you're only a weak 5'9". Just hire a really tall pitchman, and you should be home free....perhaps user Brad, as he could attest to the celebheights brand. He'd probably do it as long as you bought advertising on cryptozoology*-related websites(as I'm sure G wouldn't be your own customer!).

*Just realized spellcheck doesn't even recognize "cryptozoology" as a real word.

And -
Ferrell: 7/16/67
G: 4/10/72

I guess it's possible, but perhaps G forgot to put gloves on his hands first! :D
Brad said on 17/Nov/17
Too many meals with Meal Chaskey in Canarsie. Stallone's slush fund for buy-outs on potential lawsuits was/is massive. The legendary dragging through the hotel kitchen tale was a 500G meal. He can't use Zito as one, hiring a federal felon is really ugly if one pops up. That spiked stuff Sly has used has kept his height at 5-8, must be cement in it.
MJKoP said on 17/Nov/17
LOL, I totally see Lovitz there...poor John! At a currently-listed 5'8.5", G can be his Mini-Me.

And @Rob: Well, at 80, Stallone may end up under 5'7" but G will be in his mid-late 50s, so he'll definitely have shrunk more by then, as well....especially since G is hardly the epitome of physical fitness. Perhaps forfeiting a few hundred deluxe cheese steaks annually could yield him enough dough to visit some mystical shaman in South America who could then increase his height...after all, it's all one hundred percent real - to hell with all those quack doctors and scientists. :D
Editor Rob: I'm thinking of starting a line in Height Potions and will certainly need some Guinea Pigs. I'm certain our old friend G would be first in line to offer to test out my 'Bigfoot Vitality', 'YetiMax' and 'Captain Caveman' pills 💪

actually that reminds me Will Ferrell once mentioned he had a bully who he thought was going to shrink him by throwing 'shrinking powder' on him!
Barry Fl said on 17/Nov/17
I don't think Sly's doing himself any favours by putting out a statement that he's never even heard this accusation before. Even I heard it some years back. It's not exactly new.
MJKoP said on 16/Nov/17
Mel Gibson will be on that list in due time. Surprised he's not there yet... If G were famous, he'd already be on it for repeated instances of indecent exposure, self-confessed....check out the recently-unearthed gem on Ja Rule's page. And I see Stallone as still at least wee bit over 5'8" in 2017. Seems very height-conscientious.
Editor Rob: Stallone, if he lives to 80 might end up the same height as Glenn.

There are some techniques to reduce losses, starting with simple exercise and stretching routines. If you make it a habit, combined with a good diet you might manage to retain more height than if you fell into the trap of sedentary lifestyle and poor diet.
Brad said on 16/Nov/17
Yer right, Lovitz. Sly is still a weak 5-8.
MJKoP said on 16/Nov/17
Lol, you could totally make that original cropped picture I posted a "screamer"; advertising a clickbait video on Rob's YouTube titled something along the lines of "EXCLUSIVE: Rob meets AND measures Justin Bieber". The video would start with Rob talking to the camera as though he's about to introduce the 'Biebs, or at least setting up a pretense for footage of their encounter....then suddenly, out of nowhere that face unexpectedly appears with a Bronx accent V/O saying "Five-foot-eight...who ya met, ya postman?" April Fools 2018, anyone?? :D
Editor Rob: you know, speaking of creepy guys, I see Stallone is on the long list now!

as for his height, physically I think his legs seem to be going and he might be looking for knee replacements in 5 years.
burby said on 15/Nov/17
Mr. Lovitz looks quite angry/serious. 5'6" or 5'7" for Sly is silly talk.
MJKoP said on 15/Nov/17
The demonic gaze being made public is worth the reward of appearing taller than "5-9" JC. :P
Brad said on 15/Nov/17
Big guns with Harrison, rampers. G looks like Gene Simmons now. He must be in a crystal ball...."you must believe me...5 foot eiiighhttttt". Curtis Sliwa needs to make him an Angel since he rides the lines so much.
MJKoP said on 15/Nov/17
I apologize,'s a more "G" rated version(with special guest star, Jackie Chan!):

Click Here
Editor Rob: he had a far better shot with Sly to be fair than with Chan, even though on the street, still Sly was lucky G didn't knock him out like he insinuated! Could have been a real rumble in the bronx.
Scoobydoo said on 15/Nov/17
hey guys! If Sly never was taller than 5'7 /5'8 How do you explain this?

Next to Harrison Ford 5'11 nowadays

Click Here

Sorry guys but to me and very people Stallone was taller than the 5'9 mark in peak

I don`t believe he wears always lifts or elevator shoes
MJKoP said on 15/Nov/17
He's five-foot-eleven, guys. Do you think this face could tell a lie?

Click Here
Editor Rob: RED WARNING ALERT issued.

Do not click the above link, I nearly had a heart attack!

Shame on you MJK, I might end up with nightmares now 😈

to be honest, I've taken some devilish pictures myself over the years 🤢 😎
Harris said on 15/Nov/17
@Free: That's absolutely ridiculous! Sly has pulled off a decent 5'9" more often than not, in normal footwear. The least I could argue is 5'8.5" for his peak. Most of the evidence points towards Rob's listings. However, a flat 5'8" can be argued for today I guess, but no less. 5'7" is a silly disproven myth.
Free said on 14/Nov/17
He was never taller than 5-7. You can see it in an episode of Kojack talking with 5-10 Telly Savales
Hijopotamus said on 14/Nov/17
@slim184, I said “looks” short, not that he is short. Damon and Sly look short and other people their height look tall because of their type of body.
Dany5 said on 13/Nov/17
sorry but Sly was never over 5'8.75. Hilarious the 176-177 guess. Today he is 5'8
Richardspain said on 12/Nov/17
I'll finish soon; Sly was:

Between 175-177cm in peak

Between 173-175cm now

Stallone never was taller than 176-177cm and never was shorter than 173cm barefoot

With normal shoes he was 179cm
With sneakers 178cm

With Elevator boots he was 181cm
With lifts he was 182cm
Dmeyer said on 11/Nov/17
Considering how Sly looks in boots near Mr t , or arnie its hard to see him over 175,5cm of course Sly could pull of 5'10-11
Brad said on 9/Nov/17
The animal is correct.
Slim 184 said on 9/Nov/17
Hijopotamus said on 8/Nov/17
With his tricks he stands over 5’10 tall.
Same height as Mickey Rourke and a tad bit shorter that Bruce Willis.
Barefoot his peak could have been 176-177
Looks like Matt Damon case. Looks short but he’s not that short.
Lmao, 5’9.5”-5’10” is not short.

But yeah you could make a case anywhere inbetween 174-177 CM for Sylvester.
Danimal said on 8/Nov/17
James B said on 26/Oct/17
Probably would still be 5'9 if he didn't do decades of heavy weight lifting and HGH.

Firstly, he was never 5'9". Secondly, HGH doesn't make you shrink.
Hijopotamus said on 8/Nov/17
With his tricks he stands over 5’10 tall.
Same height as Mickey Rourke and a tad bit shorter that Bruce Willis.
Barefoot his peak could have been 176-177
Looks like Matt Damon case. Looks short but he’s not that short.
andre said on 7/Nov/17
stallone is minimun 172cm to max 174cm in the morning with shoes and about 177cm with lifts
Barry Fl said on 7/Nov/17
5'6? Ha ha. No. Stallone pulls off the trick of looking tall at times. He couldn't do this if he was truly tiny. Although I can imagine it would be easy for someone to see him on a flat-shoe day and overly exaggerate his lack of height.
Pierre said on 7/Nov/17
If Sylvester is 5"6' or 5"8' or 5"10' Sylvester is always Sylvester,a very good and charismatic actor
Loka said on 6/Nov/17
To jonezee : and you believed him ?
randomuser said on 6/Nov/17
He is a tall man at 5'10
Jonezee said on 6/Nov/17
I was talking to my Girlfriend's father just yesterday. We talked about Stallone. He met Stallone and said he was about 5'6". Her father is 5'8" and was taller. I used to think Stallone was 5'11" so I was blown away by learning the truth. I even asked him more than once. lol "Are you sure? 5'6"??"
Brad said on 31/Oct/17
Burbs is correct.
burby said on 30/Oct/17
5'8.5" peak next to the O.
Yojimbo said on 29/Oct/17
No way. 5’9”? I walked by Sly in the 80s. I could see the top of his head. I’m 5’11.
Pierre said on 29/Oct/17
@Rising = this time your video doesn't work in my country(France)
Rising - 174 cm said on 28/Oct/17
@Pierre: Those aren't standard cowboy boots -- the heel is a bit bigger almost like a Cuban style -- but I'd guess at least a 2" heel there. The heel could even give 2" of actual height, but probably not much more, imo. To be clear, I'm not making any claims either way about lifts as obviously you could gain more with a lift inside. Oprah has very big heels there herself, though so it's not an even comparison as far as we can see. Here's another appearance on Oprah the following year with Kurt Russell: Click Here Sly has at least 2" heels again, but solid 5'9" Kurt has cowboy boots himself and looks noticeably shorter than Sly. I'm convinced Sly was a bare minimum 5'8.5" and more like a weak 5'9", imo. If he was only 5'7.5" then there's ample evidence to show Kurt would have to be 5'8" absolute max.

@James B: That sort of thing is impossible to say. Sly has seldom been heavy so that may have helped his knees as opposed to others into body building. I don't know about HGH causing height loss, but I'd say Sly staying in such phenomenal shape may have prevented significant height loss. I believe a lot has to do with genetics, though. Look at Carl Weathers who is at least 4" taller, clearly hit the weights and played football. At only a year a half younger than Sly, Carl also looks like he's lost a half inch tops. Most who do lose a lot of height have loose posture as they age like Dolph, Arnie. Hulk Hogan, Rock etc.
James B said on 26/Oct/17
Probably would still be 5'9 if he didn't do decades of heavy weight lifting and HGH.

Him at 71 only losing half an inch makes no sense too me. Yes he's a fit guy but usually the ones who are gym rats at his age lose over 1 inch.

I dunno maybe rapid height loss just isn't in his genetic makeup?
Pierre said on 26/Oct/17
@Rising=i doubt this type of cow boy boots as Sly's in Jim hopper's video(posted on 25/Oct/17,look at 4:01) give you only 1.75 inch
Scoobydoo said on 26/Oct/17
Google gives to sly 177cm

You can search.

Also himself said years ago is 5'10.

You can believe or don't believe. That's personal. I understand.
Rising - 174 cm said on 25/Oct/17
@Real Anonymous: Your observations are interesting. I noticed that about Sly's voice as well. It's typical for voices to deepen with age, particularly in one's 50's and 60's(Sly's voice seemed to change more dramatically to me around the late 90's). That might have something to do with some form of synthetic testosterone or steroid. Sly did get some plastic surgery before Rocky 3 apparently for injuries sustained during the first 2 Rocky films, which I believe is what Paulie references when he mentions Rocky's "new face", but I've noticed that about his nose as well, which was probably in his mid 50s, iirc. I'm not sure of the effects of HGH as I haven't researched it as much as I have a few types of steroids. Rocky 3 was around the time he completely reshaped his body, mostly by dropping his body fat dramatically. The start of this was Victory in '81 when he dropped to 159 pounds and then basically starved himself during Rocky 3 to drop to 155 before slowly building up to 163 for the film in what was basically as close to "all muscle" as you can get. It was really the start of Sly developing a great physique, though that was the leanest I'd say he ever was. I thought he looked like a middleweight in that film and it's very apparent when he comes out for the final fight wearing the robe. You can see a big difference with Sly even facially around that time due in part to how lean he was. He had a similar sort of look even a bit after when he directed Staying Alive and did Rhinestone. He looked different to me, though when he did Rambo 2. Even though his weight didn't increase that much, he seemed to have more size or was more muscular and his jawline seemed stronger.

As for my lifts, I bought a cheap set online a decade ago. The 1" ones aren't very good or comfortable, though the 2" are actually pretty good from the same set. I think the price on these has gone way up in that time. I'll have to see if I can find the exact brand, but for anyone who wants to try them out, it's easy to find cheap ones with a google search. For those who are sure they want them, though, I'd recommend spending more than I did. Of course, I'd still like to get a good pair of elevators myself as I imagine the built in lifts would be more comfortable. The Dons D'Etna.

As for Sly's height, weak 5'9" for most of his adult life and then down to 5'8.5", possibly 5'8.25" the last few years. Anything less than 5'8" and he'd look noticeably short both onscreen and proportionately, but anything over 5'9" and he'd have never looked as short as he sometimes did onscreen and could have given a taller impression without resorting to lifts. He hasn't lost much -- definitely under an inch -- like others around his age such as Carl Weathers and Joe Mantegna or Charles Bronson and Chuck Norris back when they were Sly's age. Sly's good posture and excellent shape have probably prevented losing more than maybe half an inch. I've also thought Sly might be someone who would have looked into ways to minimize height loss as he aged and he certainly has the resources to do it. He's still easily taller than 5'7.5"-5'8" range guys like Cruise and Downey. This is apparent seeing him still able to pull off over 5'10" this year with his brother Frank and Michael Rooker while Downey and Cruise struggle to pass for 5'9". Dolph was 6'4" absolute minimum, but under 6'5". Somewhere from 193 to 195 cm. I won't argue where in that range, but I will argue anything under or over.
Brad said on 25/Oct/17
Nah, he's in good posture and still is 5' 8". Dolph was 6-4 tops.
Jim Hopper said on 25/Oct/17
Click Here Decide for yourselves. Sly is stood next to 5-6 Oprah. Sly is in cowboy boots. Imo he was 5-7.5 peak
Tim said on 25/Oct/17
Scoobydoo lol lol lol ok. Why dont you say 179-180 peak?
lol Please before saying this read below and be serious. Info yourself
Your guess is disrespecfull for 5'10 guys He was not even 5'9 maybe weak 5'9. You are blind
Scoobydoo said on 24/Oct/17
177-178 cm peak

Around 175 cm now
Danimal said on 23/Oct/17
Brad said on 10/Oct/17
Hanging on by near nothing at 5-8 flat in October 2017.

He's below that height at 71 years old Brad.
Danimal said on 23/Oct/17
John B said on 23/Oct/17
He has fooled us for so long but I guess he had to I mean look at Arnold he was at least 6’1 max in his day and then Dolph who was 6’5 back in the 80’s Sly had to make him self look at least 5’9 or 5’10 but for real he is around 5’7 barefoot.

Dolph was never 6'5". He was 6'4" at best at his peak.
John B said on 23/Oct/17
He has fooled us for so long but I guess he had to I mean look at Arnold he was at least 6’1 max in his day and then Dolph who was 6’5 back in the 80’s Sly had to make him self look at least 5’9 or 5’10 but for real he is around 5’7 barefoot.
Yuval said on 22/Oct/17
I feel bad that Stallone needs to lie about his height like that. I'm 5'8 myself and I find comfort in the fact that stallone is like an inch taller then me and he is such a bad ass and a great role model for a lot of men. It is nice to see guy like him who is not 6'+ like all other male leading characters.
Guesser said on 22/Oct/17
Looks very tall so yes, 5'9 seems accurate for him
Tim said on 22/Oct/17
Stallone is strong 172 nowdays no 174 please! He was 175 with luck in his prime with luck I say 174'5
Tim said on 22/Oct/17
RichardSpain you are wrong today is just 5'8. 172cm Have you seen those pics with Serena Williams? She has flat shoes, he has higher shoes and Serena being relax has 1 inch on him ?about 2 cm taller. Serena Williams is 175'5cm. Stallone with luck was 175 cm. Stop saying he was 177 cm please is disrespectful for weak 5'10 guys
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Richardspain said on 21/Oct/17
Stallone was more a strong 176/177cm (5'9-5'10in) than 175 cm( 5ft8.75 in)

And is a strong 174cm nowadays.
Harris said on 21/Oct/17
Mr. R, have you ever seen Sly in person, if you have what was your estimation on his height?
Brad said on 20/Oct/17
Sly has never been 5-10 in his life or 5-9 either. 1976, built up customs.
Peter181cm said on 20/Oct/17
He was very strong 5'9 ;-)
Now he is 5'8 ;-)
He is old! but he is legend!! ;-)
I love his movie Rocky ❤
He is very good actor
Barry Fl said on 20/Oct/17
THE REAL ANNONYMOUS said on 19/Oct/17
just looked at a clip from the Dinah Shore show in 1976 where Sly claimed he was 5'10 and also the Johnny Carson show in 1983 where he claimed he was a 5'10 Italian as well. During the interview with Carson he said that Hulk Hogan was 7'tall and weighed 350lbs.

Like any good storyteller, Sly likes to exaggerate and over-dramatize things. No bad thing, it makes it all interesting. But it does lend weight to the notion that he was certainly bumping up his own height. I'd guess he was probably 5'9 at very best, and rounding up to 5'10. If he'd genuinely been 5'10 I think he'd have tried to claim 6'. And I don't think he'd have gained such an enduring reputation as a short fellow (which he isn't, particularly).
THE REAL ANNONYMOUS said on 19/Oct/17
just looked at a clip from the Dinah Shore show in 1976 where Sly claimed he was 5'10 and also the Johnny Carson show in 1983 where he claimed he was a 5'10 Italian as well. During the interview with Carson he said that Hulk Hogan was 7'tall and weighed 350lbs. Not sure if he meant the character Thunder lips or if he was saying Hogan was that big.
Sly was very lean looking on Carson... if you check that clip out his nose has grown quite abit. It could be age related but im thinking his HGH use has contributed to it as well. His voice has under gone quite a transformation as well since then!
Im finding it hard to believe he was under 5'9 back then and if he was it couldnt have been very much.

Hey Rising where do you buy your lifts??
andre said on 19/Oct/17
sly is 170cm barefoot no more then that and that is at night so he is 174cm in the morning with shoes
Harris said on 19/Oct/17
@Rising: If you don't mind me asking, Is 174 cm your low, midday or morning height? What's the tallest you reach out of bed? And I recall you mentioning you wear lifts come?
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Oct/17
@Tonyx: Sly claimed he had a reach of 73" in the 1978 Playboy interview. Of course, he claimed to be 5'10.75" tall in that same interview, so whether he exaggerated his reach too, I don't know, but I do think he's always looked to have relatively long arms for his height. But again, I believe Sly was exaggerating his height by 2" in that interview so it's possible he'd have added that same amount to his actual reach.

@Pierre: Those shoes have a thicker front/platform. The Cubans I wear don't have much of a front. My 2.75" heeled Cubans have a 3/16" front, my 2" heeled Cubans have about 1/8" front, my Dan Post cowboy boots have a heel near 2", but a front of 1/4", maybe 5/16" and my Tonya Lama cowboy boots(Sly has worn these over the years and has done some ads for them) have the typical 1.75" heel and 1/4" front/platform. I don't think there's too much of an insole in any of these boots. I haven't weighed myself in months, but I'd guess I'm still between 130-135. But if you're saying Pacino could have gained a bit more than 2", I agree it's possible, but not a lot more. The heels look about 2.5" to me, but that's just a guess.
Intevel said on 17/Oct/17
Rob could Stallone get back half an inch with the right program?
Editor Rob: unfortunately I think Sly's bones and discs have reached an age were natural height loss is beginning to occur.
Tonyx said on 17/Oct/17
Guys, what is Sylvester Stallone's reach/armspan?
Pierre said on 16/Oct/17
@Rising=Al Pacino's shoes= I want to say= with a classic insole,i think this shoes can give you a little more than 2 inches.When you wear shoes like this type = Click Here = only with this heel and the origin insole = you gain at least 3 cm ;i wear sometimes this type, i gain 3 cm ,and the heel isn't very hard(i'm around 270 lbs) then a lighter guy must gain a little more with this,like 3,1/3.2 cm.Al Pacino's shoes with hard heels + sole + classic insole =a little more than 2 inches is possible imo Click Here
Jim Hopper said on 16/Oct/17
His hairline has grown as much as his height over the years,the word *real* in hollywood is a taboo word
Rey said on 16/Oct/17
Still pimping this height of 5' 8 1/2". Remove 1 1/2 " and you will be spot on. Hr could be a hair under 5' 7".
Rising - 174 cm said on 15/Oct/17
@Shredder: Nothing over 5'8.5" today. Nothing over 5'9" peak, imo. He'll still look about that with good posture and then over 5'10" with his lifts, but while it's debatable if he hit the full 5'9" mark, I think it's clear he's not that tall anymore.

@Pierre: How do we know what Pacino's insoles are there? Those Cubans have heels over 2", which is the main reason he gets about 2" of actual height, but both Rob and I agreed Pacino likely did not have an extra lift inside. I have 2 pairs of Cubans. One has pretty much exactly a 2" heel and give me roughly 1.75" in height when I don't put extra lifts in them and I have another pair of Cubans -- which are actually more comfortable -- and have 2.75" heels, but I don't think they give me much over 2" to 2.25" range in actual height without an extra lift inside, though I'll have to measure myself in them soon to tell you exactly. As for cowboy boots, I can say that I have a pair of Tony Lama and a pair of Dan Post and both have pretty much exactly 1.75" heels. I can tell you that these heels are at least as big as what Frank is wearing with Tom Sizemore. As for Sugar Ray Leonard, Rob said he was taller and I'd guess it'd have to be notable enough for Rob to guess him a weak 5'9". Besides, Sugar Ray was already 58-59 by then so 1/4" loss isn't hard to believe at all. He was about 50 in most of the pictures with Frank Stallone. I do believe Sugar Ray has shrunk more in the 4 years since he met Rob and is now no more than 5'8.5".
Jim Hopper said on 14/Oct/17
Impossible to judge. One minute he looks 5-7 next he looks near 6-0
Peter181cm said on 14/Oct/17
I think he was 5'9.25 at the top!
His normal height was 5'9 ;)
And now he is old.. 5'8 - 5'8.25
Shredder said on 13/Oct/17
I honestly do not even have a real estimate for Sly . I have changed so much on him. All I know is that I find it hard to see him over 5'8.5 to 5'9 in recent years.
Brad said on 13/Oct/17
Those Pacino Montana Cubano zapatos are custom killers. Sly would love those.
Rising - 174 cm said on 13/Oct/17
@Harris: Here's what I was referring to as far as Sly in lifts in 2017.

Sly wearing perhaps as much as 2.5"-2.75" type footwear with his 5'10.5" listed brother Frank this year: Click Here
Candid shot of Sly with 5'9" listed Michael Rooker around the same time: Click Here

If both listings are accurate then Sly can still pull off 5'11" with his brother and at least 5'10.5" with Rooker, but I can't imagine that's the case so Frank is probably a flat 5'10" these days and Michael Rooker can look 5'8.5" nowadays himself so maybe we'll say Sly passes for 5'10"-5'10.5" when he dusts off his faithful lifts. Still shows, imo that he's about 5'8.5" or 5'8.25" as Tom Cruise with boots that add a similar amount only passes for 5'8.5", maybe 5'9" and Robert Downey Jr. in his high-tops stuffed with lifts manages maybe 5'9"-5'9.5". Of course, a skeptic could argue all 3 are shorter, but that's not my view.

@Brad: Not in the shots with De Niro, Tyson, Michael B. Jordan and the recent shot with Chan.
Pierre said on 13/Oct/17
@Rising =imo the shoes of Al Pacino give him a little more than 2 inches with the insole.Rob lose around the same height as Sugar in the picture imo,and seem to have a longer head than him,only Sugar's cap is higher than Rob imo.
Harris said on 13/Oct/17
I just noticed I posted Michael B Jordan as "Michael B Howard" in my post Lol...I'm such an idiot.
Rising - 174 cm said on 12/Oct/17
@Pierre: Rob said Sugar Ray looked a weak 5'9" at that time so I think 5'8.75" at the time is fair. He's still a bit taller than Rob and slouching so it makes sense. 5'8.5" at the absolute worst back then. But if you give Sizemore's heels 1" then there's absolutely no way Frank has a 1" footwear advantage unless he's wearing lifts. 1.75" is pretty standard for a cowboy heel and Frank's are certainly not bigger than that. I'd have to see the model of Tom's boots to know if the heel is 1" or 1.25", but it also depends on the insole. But I don't know of a current cowboy boot that gives 2" of actual height, which would require a heel over 2". You'd see some cowboy boots with 2" or bigger heels in the 70's and 80's, but nowadays, only some rare Cuban heel boots are men's shoes with a heel over 2" that give at least 2" of actual height. Most men's Cubans have a heel from 1.5" to 2", though, nowadays.

Just to give you an idea of men's footwear that would give 2", Rob estimated Al Pacino's Scarface footwear would give 2" of actual height: Click Here Click Here

@Harris: Good post, though I'll say I stopped estimating Sly in anything other than full pics and videos just because he's so enigmatic I like to have as few variables as possible. He does still look at least 5'8.5" with Michael B. Jordan and was actually still passing for 5'9" at times with De Niro. When Sly looked to wear what looked like those Hogan sneakers or something similar at the Guardians of the Galaxy premiere this year, he was slightly taller than his brother Frank, so I assume he pulled off a bit over 5'10", perhaps 5'10.5". This makes sense as he looked noticeably taller than 5'8.5"-5'9" Michael Rooker in a photoshoot for that same film around the same time. I was surprised to see him wearing lifts again. Then again, Burt Reynolds is bent over with a cane and still wearing his famous 2" heeled elevator boots.
burby said on 12/Oct/17
Sly needs to take off his customs with the Rock and donate them to a actresses' charity. This way they can put them in a sack to fend off Harvey Weinstein...
Brad said on 12/Oct/17
Sly rockin' in customs in all of Harris' shots.
JJ said on 11/Oct/17
1m75 he looks tall next to MUHAMAD ALI
andre said on 11/Oct/17
at his prime stallone was 170cm barefoot at night today 169cm barefoot at night
Harris said on 11/Oct/17
@Rising: Thanks for the response! I'd bet Sly will start looking no more than a weak 5'8" in 5-6 years, and by 2025, he'll probably look no more than 171 cm. But then again a guy like George H.W. Bush didn't seem to lose any height during his 70's...though that would probably be an exception. He definitely looks no less than a solid 175 cm with Sorbo. I do wonder what's the tallest height Sly could pull off these days though...he doesn't appear to wear lifts anymore and for a while in fact.

Anyway, here's Sly and 5'8" listed (current height) Jackie Chan: Click Here and here's both men at peak (when Chan was 5'8.5") and Sly in lifts back in '01: Click Here

Sly and 6'2.5" Dwayne Johnson: Click Here (this was taken at an event in '05, and Sly was obviously wearing lifts with built-up shoes hence his 5'11"-5'11.5" appearance that day: Click Here)

Sly with 5'10.5" Michael B Johnson: Click Here Click Here Click Here (these shots were taken in 2015, when Stallone obviously lost some height and he does look more 174 cm with him by this time, which is Rob's current listing for him, but in the last photo he's bending his knee and still doesn't look under a weak 5'9" at the least there)

Sly with 5'9" listed Michael Jackson: Click Here Click Here (I'm unaware of Sly's footwear here, but these are taken backstage of both the Bad and Dangerous Tours, so I assume Sly wore lifts/built-up footwear while Jackson wore loafers)

Sly and 5'7.5" Robert De Niro at the "Grudge Match" premiere in '13: Click Here Click Here

A lot of you guys must remember that Sly looked no shorter than 5'9" in obvious normal footwear with Mike Tyson in 2011: Click Here and skip to 11:35 onwards in Click Here That's enough to dispel and destroy the stupidly ridiculous 5'6"-5'7" rumours!
Brad said on 10/Oct/17
Hanging on by near nothing at 5-8 flat in October 2017.
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Oct/17
Speaking of height loss for a man 70+ with relevancy to Sly, Rob has a picture with a 73 year old John Amos who he still guessed weak 5'10.75" down from 5'11.5" peak. Amos looks great for his age and has barely changed based on Rob's picture. Don't know if there's some correlation there genetically. But it does seem to validate the 5'11.5" peak and Sly pulled off barely shorter in Lock Up if you see the wide shot of the two walking at about 40 seconds here: Click Here or the shot at about 1:15 of the two standing together. Those don't look like 4" boots on Sly either, imo.
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Oct/17
Even considering Sly is standing in front, I have a tough time seeing him much under 5'9" with Kevin Sorbo: Click Here Rob lists Sorbo over 6'3" cm and though Sorbo has a loose stance, Sly is dropping height himself leaning. Sly's golf shoes look a bit thicker than Sorbo's do: Click Here Click Here Click Here but his ankle looks about where it should be. If Sorbo is or was 191 cm at the time then Sly even seems more 175 than 174, imo.
MJKoP said on 10/Oct/17
Editor Rob: G should verse himself with the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Conspiring to commit crime could get him the clink...

True, and being locked in a cage with a guy they call "Bigfoot" might not be his idea of the holy grail after all.
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Oct/17
@Harris: It varies, but yeah, that's when it accelerates for many. The average in a survey was basically 1 cm or 0.4" for every decade after 40, but then this basically doubled between 70 and 80. Though many lose a lot more than 0.4" in their 60's. Of course, there are exceptions such as Chuck Norris who I believe Rob has spot on at 5'8.5" peak and not only did he still look about that height when he was 72 during the Expendables 2 premiere, but even now at 77, he still looks 5'8" or at worst, a fraction under as Rob also agreed from seeing photos of Chuck at conventions. Then there's Robert Redford who I don't think was over 5'10" and probably not over 5'9.5" by his late 60's/early 70's yet still looks 5'9". William Shatner is perhaps the most remarkable because I'm skeptical he was even the 5'9" peak Rob lists him and by his early 60's, Shatner struggled with 5'8" yet he still somehow looks nothing under 5'7.5" even today at 86.

As for Sly, if he was 5'8.5"-5'9" in his prime then there's no way he's 5'7"-5'7.5" today. He simply doesn't look that different and didn't look to lose anything until sometime between ages 67-69. As I've said, I believe he went from a weak 5'9" to a strong 5'8"(5'8.25"-5'8.5") but saying he's 5'7" or so today fits much better with those who believe Sly was never over 5'8" flat.

Look at this candid taken this year of Sly and Michael Rooker who Rob still estimates 5'9": Click Here Of course Sly has more footwear just like when he showed up looking taller than brother Frank at the Guardians premiere, but even so, he pulls off looking convincingly taller than Rooker. In fairness, I think both Sly and Rooker have gone from about 5'9" peak to 5'8.5" today.
Pierre said on 9/Oct/17
@Rising=Tom Sizemore's shoes have not a very big heel,they give around 1 inch imo.Cow boy shoes don't give you always the same height,it depends on marks.Frank(if not lifts) has probably around 1 inch advantage of shoes on Tom imo.Sugar Ray Leonard next to Rob look 5"8' range without his cap imo Click Here and next to Frank he seem to be in very flat shoes,Frank more N.shox type(don't know exactly this shoes but the heel seem to be advantageous),in others pics we don't see the shoes.Sugar Ray Leonard is slouching in all the pictures
Harris said on 9/Oct/17
Rob, how much on average would a guy lose in height from age 70 to 80? I'd imagine that's the age range where the biggest drop in height occurs...
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Oct/17
Frank at 5'10.5" in his prime as Rob lists him sounds about right, imo.

With 6'1" Carl Weathers in 2003: Click Here Click Here Click Here
With 5'9" Tony Danza at the same event: Click Here
With 5'9" Sugar Ray Leonard around 2005: Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here
With Sugar Ray in 2013, the same year Rob guessed him a weaker 5'9": Click Here

I wish there was more full pics of Frank along others with known heights outside of his enigmatic brother. Based on these, Carl had a minimum 2" on Frank, but less than 3". Frank was more than just an inch taller than Sugar Ray and Danza, though. Based on how Frank looks with Sly the last few years, though, I think he's shrunk more than his older brother and may very well be no more than 5'10" flat. I think Frank's 6'1" claim is even worse precisely because he doesn't wear lifts. I mean, at least try to make your claim believable. Out of these 5 men, Sly and Carl are the oldest, but I think Frank, Danza and Sugar Ray have all lost more height. Tony really did look 5'9" as he somehow pulled off Mike Tyson's height when Tyson guested on Who's the Boss and even when Chuck Norris appeared on Tony's talk show, Norris with a cowboy boot advantage was about the same height as Danza, but Tony looks more like 5'8" now. Similarly, Sugar Ray's 5'9" claim is believable for his prime, but he looks 5'8"-5'8.5" nowadays in his early 60's. I believe Sly and Carl have each lost a half inch or less.

@Pierre: I have a couple of pairs of popular brands of cowboy boots. Take a tape measure and you'll see a standard cowboy heel is 1.75". But you don't get all of that in actual height. A classic boot would add 1" minimum, probably 1.25" more often between heel and insole. So a half inch is about the most the difference would be. Technically, you could argue Frank COULD have a 5/8" advantage if Tom had boots that only gave 1". There's really no doubt about this unless Frank had a lift in his boots and I see no reason to suspect this.

@MJKoP: The stadiometer in court image just evoked images of the infamous Alger Hiss typewriter, OJ's glove etc. We all know Glenn may be in denial, but he knows deep down he couldn't win in court. Another funny image I have is Glenn being carried in on a mattress like the cop in that 60's anecdote. I agree to some extent about his estimates creeping up, particularly a 5'9" Cruise! Although I do think it's less the case with Stallone as Glenn never saw the "short Stallone" as far as I know and didn't speculate as much as he did with Cruise and Gibson. And as far as I know, Glenn didn't get a new picture with Gibson so it's more like Willis where Glenn's unrealistic estimate is all the more puzzling. Iirc, Glenn just had the old picture where Mel had his head down and was wearing cowboy boots so there was no real way of telling how tall Mel was from it. But maybe Glenn wants to be covered beforehand if he ever gets another picture with those guys because Glenn insisted even before he met Mike Tyson that Tyson was 5'11.5" rather than the 5'10" he's admitted to multiple times. Btw, how tall does Glenn think Trump is? I remember Trump looking quite tall in an old photo with Glenn.
Brad said on 8/Oct/17
Frank's been selling Sly boxing stuff for years. You wonder where his career went.
Duffer 5ft 11 said on 8/Oct/17
5'8.5 peak height (AM for sure) 5'7.5 nowadays, perhaps even dipping down to a strong 5'7" by day's end. Looked around 175-180 lbs in the Rambos.
Frankie68 said on 7/Oct/17
6'1 is a joke for Frank Stallone ,, 5'11 is a joke for him ,, Theres no way on earth he's as tall as Carl Weathers ,, look at Creed or Rocky premiers ,, there are pics of them together ,, Frank's lucky if he's 5'9 -5'10 ,, Height liar like his brother ,,, but not the lift wearer Sly is ,,, to be fair ,, Frank's def 5'9 ,,, 5'10 might be pushing it
Pierre said on 6/Oct/17
@Rising=i would be surprised that boots like Frank's Cow-boy boots would give him only a half inch on Tom's classic boots.
MJKoP said on 6/Oct/17
@Rising - 174 cm Thank you, and I was aware of pretty much all of that. I think the Stallone and Gibson measurements crept up steadily post-'09 to in a way compensate for any lingering doubts of him being 5'8". The taller any celeb photographed with him is, naturally the taller he himself would have to be. Also, G DOES know about the 1/8 of an inch that should be deducted from the in-person measurement. I sent him the "Big Grapple" link when we were still friendly-ish. I was pretty annoyed with him at the time(of course I couldn't tell him unless I felt like sparking WW3), so I prefaced it with "This may be difficult for you to view, but you should see this hit-piece Rob wrote". He expressed to me that he wished I hadn't sent him that, but that he was now seriously considering suing Rob because he knows of how strict slander/defamation laws are in Scotland. I would pay my bottom dollar to witness that infamous stadiometer brought into a courtroom. Anyhoo, he also requested I do some tech-related stuff in retaliation that I really don't care to get into. Needless to say, I never would or did.

@Brad: When a memory is so traumatic(i.e. being measure by the Cannonball Run Doctor at a mere 5'6.5"), some people are able to purge such a memory by adding their own narratives(i.e. the doctor was a quack, uneven floor, etc) to help themselves live in a more idealistic reality. It's hard to wrap your mind around, yes, but when you can lull yourself into such a false sense of comfort, you will hold no reservations whatsoever about walking into the most blatantly obvious deathtrap conceivable(i.e. a hotel room with Rob, Jenny, a stadiometer and a still camera).

@Rob: In hindsight, why couldn't it have been a *video* camera, if not just a hidden one? The footage captured would have been beyond priceless.
Editor Rob: G should verse himself with the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Conspiring to commit crime could get him the clink...
Brad said on 6/Oct/17
G at 5' 7 and whatever now is about deuce deuce zero lugging big bags of drumheads etc hours after afternoon wake-up....subtract another 1/2" by 10 P.M. in midtown. Under 5' 7.5" in '07 photos assuming he's still in the autograph racket.
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Oct/17
@Pierre: Nobody seriously thinks Frank was ever 6'1", except Frank! Maybe Jackie Stallone too... Footwear difference isn't an inch difference either. Cowboy boots typically have a 1 3/4" heel, which add maybe 1 5/8" of actually height. Sizemore's boots probably add 1" to 1.25" so I think a fraction difference is about right as it'd be a half inch at most. Both Tom and Frank are probably about 5'10" these days or 177-178 cm range judging by the fact Sly in lifts can pull off taller than Frank this year. Sizemore's posture is atrocious so any guess will be a rough one. Incidentally, Sly and Tom Sizemore looked similar height range in Lock Up with Sly of course wearing lifts. This doesn't prove one side or the other in the argument about Sly, but I thought I'd mention it as it's the only time I've seen Sly and Tom Sizemore together. Of course, Sizemore may have been 1 cm taller 30 years ago than he is today.

@MJKoP: That's always been my thought. At least up until the meeting, but speaking to Glenn after, I honestly got the sense that he had basically found a way to justify what he thought was a 5'6 5/8" measurement (I can only imagine if he knew it was actually 1/8" less!). Although hardly scientific, he seems to view it as some freakish one-time low and may have disregarded it as somehow rigged by now altogether. It was also easier for him to call a 5'7 1/8" measurement "5-7.25 or near that" than the actual 5'7" flat, which was his high measurement. The only time he was speaking realistically was when he mentioned he might only be 5'7.5" out of bed, but instead of the worst case scenario he viewed it as, that's about the most he could measure out of bed as it'd still mean shrinking at least an inch. 5'7.25" would be more typical. He actually took the 5'7ish measurement as a low as he told me years ago that he wouldn't object to someone saying he shrunk to 5'7" at night, but really that's 1/2" generous. For the record, I really don't care what he tells people in his personal life. It's just silly Glenn trying to convince people who know better. He'd be better off not addressing celebheights. And saying men like Stallone, Gibson and Colin Farrell are not the 5'10" they claim, but 5'11" is also ridiculous and hardly consistent with the logic he uses to support this (i.e., he's met them and therefor, he knows) as certainly meeting them does not put him in as good of a position as BEING them does.

Glenn's earlier views were more reasonable. He initially thought Mel Gibson was 5'9" having met him and looked taller sometimes due to cowboy boots, which is actually spot on, imo. But ironically, he used premiere photos to justify changing his views to Mel at a ridiculous 5'7"-5'8" for a while and now says an equally ridiculous 5'11" having met Mel again when he filmed The Beaver. He always thought Stallone was taller, but you can see Glenn fairly open to Sly being 5'9" and fooling him over a decade ago (more or less right) and at least he was saying 5'10" at times then, but has gradually gone from saying 5'10", 5'10.5" and 5'10.75" to specifically saying Sly is NOT 5'9" OR 5'10", but 5'11"!
Harris said on 6/Oct/17
Didn't Glenn claim 5'8" was his morning height? I recall him saying that, but even if he did its highly unlikely a man who'd measure that out of bed could drop to 5'6.5" by evening!

The thing is, just a few years ago he was still claiming 5'8" (yes, even after Rob measured and exposed his height), so whether it's delusion or...I mean, why would he agree to get measured by Rob given his obvious height complex? So this is a dude who is very obsessed about height/celebrity heights and endlessly argues with anyone who points out his height yet evidently doesn't even seem to actually KNOW his own TRUE height? Hard to buy, but what a joke...He brought it all on himself!
Brad said on 5/Oct/17
How can you measure yourself and be over an inch shorter?
Tim said on 5/Oct/17
Sly is 5'8 today I think Rob got him a perfect list. With Serena looks 172'5-173 maybe he was 174'5-175 max peak
MJKoP said on 5/Oct/17
Brad said on 4/Oct/17
Frank Stallone is one of the biggest height liars ever. He makes The G look like Jesus.

"G-sus" is NOT a liar. A liar wouldn't have consented to a meeting with Rob. He honestly believes he is 5'8", Stallone and Gibson are 5'11", Bigfoot, Megalodon and wizardry are completely real things, etc, etc, etc....

He'd pass a polygraph with flying colors. It's not dishonesty or deception. It's DELUSION.
Frankie68 said on 5/Oct/17
@ rising , Sly pulled out the munsters in that pic with his brother ,, Frank is much taller than Sly ,, Frank is taller than Sly in those munsters ,, which means he got Sly by 3-4 inches easy !!
Pierre said on 5/Oct/17
Rising say on 04/Oct/17=I don't get what is supposed to prove?
So you must read or reread the comment of Anonymous.And the interest is= the pictures i posted were made in 2014,the picture in this page (Sly/Franck) was made around this date(Expendable 3 =2014 ),the picture Tom Sizemore/Rob around this date(2011),so the parameter of the loss of height by the years seem to me limited to try to guess their heights...
Rising say on 04/Oct/17=Frank look taller.Tom has boots too so probably only a fraction less
I agree with you if for you a fraction is at least 1 inch...So Franck a little shorter than 5"10.25' Tom Sizemore is very arguable imo.And even in this cow boy shoes he don't look taller than Tom if you consider the postures.And so 6"1'peak barefoot for Frank would be very questionable(more 6"1' in good cow boy boots).He seem to be in very good shape with a very good posture in the pictures i posted(in 2014 he was only 64),i don't see him lose all this inches by the years like you seem to write
Brad said on 4/Oct/17
Frank Stallone is one of the biggest height liars ever. He makes The G look like Jesus.
Rising - 174 cm said on 4/Oct/17
I'd bet a lot of money Sly has no lifts in those shoes. The front is completely flat. I see them about the same meaning Sly is 1/2" to 3/4" shorter barefoot, imo.

@Pierre: I don't get what this is supposed to prove? Frank looks taller than Tom. Tom has boots himself so probably only a fraction less. But I do suspect Frank Stallone has shrunk. Sly in shoes that look similar to those Hogan sneakers looked taller than Frank this year: Click Here Sly must have lifts in there so I think he'd get 2.5"-2.7" over barefoot, but if Frank were still 5'10.5", that would mean Sly can still pass for 5'10.75"-5'11", which I do not believe, at least not in those type of shoes. And if you look at the photo above of Sly in normal 1" dress shoes back to back, he only looks 2 cm, maybe 1" max shorter. It's possible Frank may have had just 2 cm shoes and gotten a fraction less than Sly and that was 3 years ago when I believe Sly was still at peak height or at worst, within 1/4" of it. But either way, Frank is not 2" taller than Sly these days. If Sly is currently 174 cm as I believe then Frank looks more 177-178 cm these days. Frank looks to have shrunk more than Sly has. But that still means Sly can pull off about 178-179 cm so he's still clearly taller than guys like Cruise and Downey, imo.
Pierre said on 4/Oct/17
@Anonymous= Click Here = in 2014 Sundance Film Festival= Franck Stallone in cowboy Boots next to Tom Sizemore(who is 5"10' range next to Rob).Tom seem wear classic boots,he's slouching in the second picture= Click Here .The shoes= Click Here
Click Here Click Here =(same event) Click Here = maybe not the same day but same event and they seem to be the same boots.
Tim said on 4/Oct/17
To Harris :
Beacuase we all wake up taller but I'm with you Stallone is today 5'8 in his peak 5'8.75 tops
Tim said on 4/Oct/17
To Anonymous said on 4/Oct/17 :

Are you blind? Stallone is 173 today tops!
Please read and think read cmments below and watch those pics with Serena a legit 175 cm woman

Frankie68 said on 30/Sep/17
There's no debate with Serena ,, she is clearly taller than him (no doubt)..She is in flats (which is laughable) ..He has a shoe advantage & possibly a lift in his shoe as well ,, (which i dont doubt) ...5'7 for Sly Max !!!
Stallone was 175 or 5'8.75 in his peak
Anonymous said on 4/Oct/17
Stallone is 174-175cm nowadays! and 176-177cm barefoot in peak.

And if his brother claimed 6'1 (185 cm) Stallone can't be 173 cm . Look the picture next to his brother! up the page!
Peter181cm said on 3/Oct/17
He was 1,76m/5'9.25 in good days!
His normal height was 1,75m/5'9
And now he is 1,73m/5'8
Yeah he claim 1,78m/5,10 like the others actors..
But he is best actor ever!!
Pierre said on 3/Oct/17
(In Serena's page in this site over her picture ="in the Open i was below 5"9" i'm like 5"10' now.She write on Twitter 5"9')
Editor Rob: yeah she was age 18 when she had made that claim of growing...of course years later she goes back to 5ft 9 again.

I guess she shrunk.
Pierre said on 3/Oct/17
(In Serena's page in this site over her picture ="in the Open i was below 5"9")
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 3/Oct/17
Serena is 2cm taller in the pics, Sly has 1"heels, so minimum 2cm footwearadvantage.
Serena 176cm
Sly 172cm
Pierre said on 3/Oct/17
take in consideration the 5"9' height of Serena is a number on a paper...."official heights" are not always very precise or are sometimes the height with shoes,and sometimes the height with comfortable shoes
Harris said on 2/Oct/17
@Tim so your saying he was 5'8 ¾" in his prime, yet that he at his very best woke up at 176 cm? You do realise most people have a daily height shrinkage of about ¾-1 inch, right? That would most likely put him at more 177 cm range if he fell a fraction under 5'9" at his low. Anyway, Sly's shoes don't look that thick with Serena Williams. I'd say her flats probably do give about ¼ of an inch, while (imo) Sly's give no more than 2 cm...they look liftless to me too, so anyone who tries to use lifts as an argument is only basing that off speculation and personal feelings toward his height, rather than rational thinking. Its pretty clear he was close to 5'9" peak, and is anywhere from 5'8" to 5'8.5" max today at 71 years of age. He's in amazing shape for his age though, just compare his posture to Trump who's of the same age! Working out really pays off later in life I guess.

Rob, may I ask who the amateur boxer was? How can we even be sure he didn't skew his estimate in someway? I just can't take the 5'6"-5'7" stuff seriously, what man that short pulls off looking close in height to six foot range guys and in relatively (but of course not completely) normal-ish-looking footwear, I mean its not like he wore brick shoes. What an enigma Sly is!

On a side note, here's some photos of Sly with 5'9 ½" Jack Nicholson: Click Here Click Here Click Here Nicholson was 65 and Sly was 56 here in 2002, I assume Nicholson lost height by then but I don't think he dropped under a weak 5'9" at the least by then and Sly still looks taller, plus he wore flat-looking shoes, certainly not suspicious-looking by any means: Click Here ; and with 5'10.25" peak Paul McCartney: Click Here Click Here and I do admit I'm unaware of both men's footwear in these pics.
Tim said on 2/Oct/17
Sly is 5'8 today 5'8.75 in his youth. He nver hit the 5'9 mark. Disrespectful for strong legit 5'9 guys. Right after bed there's chance he hit 176 cm range in his best day
Rising - 174 cm said on 1/Oct/17
I watched Tango and Cash the other day and I noticed that during the scene when Sly's character(Tango) requests to speak to Cash(Kurt Russell), Sly looks about an inch taller than Kurt despite Kurt wearing cowboy boots as you can see when Kurt puts his foot on the table. I believe Sly was wearing the at least 2" heels you see at the beginning of the film, but with Kurt wearing a standard 1.75" cowboy heel himself to begin with, it minimize the advantage Sly would get from his heels. While I don't think Sly was ever a mm over 5'9", the 176 cm guesses are understandable because it's possible Sly was as tall as Kurt, who Rob lists 5'9.25". Of course, it's not certain Kurt was over 5'9" flat himself, though I think Rob's listing is fair and if that's the case, Kurt would reach near 5'11" in cowboy boots making him appear like a 5'10" man so along with Sly having 5'9.5" Geoffrey Lewis by over an inch at the beginning, Sly could pass for 5'11" when wearing those heels in Tango and Cash.

On a different note, I thought Sly pulled off solid 5'10" range in the first Expendables. Here he is on set with Gary Daniels, who is listed here at 5'10": Click Here But he must have looked shorter than that in Expendables 2, as 5'8"-5'8.5" Chuck Norris seemed a bit taller in the film and roughly as tall in this on set photo: Click Here Here's the two in a premiere video?: Click Here The angle is a bit high, but Sly's shoes looked very normal: Click Here Click Here while Norris -- another known lift wearer -- had cowboy boots, which look to me like they may even be Burt Reynolds style custom elevator boots: Click Here Click Here I'd bet Sly slightly taller than Norris barefoot both in their primes and at that time(Norris may or may not have lost up to a half inch by Expendables 2, but I don't think Sly had lost anything) so it's surprising Norris would appear to edge Sly in the film. The main thing I found interesting is that Sly looked shorter and seemed less height conscious during Expendables 2 and promo appearances for that film compared to the 1st and 3rd films. He brought out the lifts for a few Expendables 1 appearances and almost seemed to alternate between normal shoes and lifts promoting the 3rd while as I've mentioned, I thought Sly even pulled off 5'11" in the 3rd film, but considering Norris may only pass for 5'9.5"-5'10" even with lifts, Sly at the very least did not look taller than that in the scene with Norris in Expendables 2. I'm not even sure he wore lifts in that film as surprising that is, but seeing not much of a difference between the two at the premiere when Norris had an obvious footwear advantage is what makes me question this.

Also, here's video of Sly and Arnold out in 2008 when Arnold was still around 6 feet: Click Here The reason I bring it up is I initially brushed it off assuming Sly had huge lifts in his boots, simply because it's Sly and he's wearing boots, but do they even look unusual?: Click Here Click Here I think he's helped by Arnold wearing what look to be 2 cm max sneakers while Arnold didn't seem to be holding good posture that day. I'm not doubting the good possibility Sly could have lifts as well, but I do doubt those are say, 3" boots or that he'd be less than 5'8.5" without them and measuring up so well to a 6' man. If you notice, Sly's knees don't even look particularly high, nor his legs particularly long.
Anonymous said on 1/Oct/17
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Next to Serena Williams ( strong 5'9) Stallone looks very similar. They are in flat. They don't wear lifts in those pics.Very natural.

Could be 174 cm sly barefoot nowadays and 176 cm 177 cm in peak is very reasonable sure. He said was 5'10 remember you! up this page you can read.
Pierre said on 1/Oct/17
@Rising=You can see Serena is slouching in the first pic(29/Sept/17) but look taller than Sylvester,Sylvester is slouching a little ,no more than her,and very probably at most lose height as much as her (all her bust is inclined not Sylvester ) but she's higher than him by around 1 inch in the picture imo.
Brad said on 1/Oct/17
Let us ask brother FRank......"Sly is 5 foot 10, cantcha tell, who have ya met? Yer astronaut?"
Frankie68 said on 30/Sep/17
There's no debate with Serena ,, she is clearly taller than him (no doubt)..She is in flats (which is laughable) ..He has a shoe advantage & possibly a lift in his shoe as well ,, (which i dont doubt) ...5'7 for Sly Max !!!
Johnson said on 30/Sep/17
I meant there are people who is 5'9.5 and not say I am 5'10 but 5'9.
Johnson said on 30/Sep/17
@Melyst please put the source of 175...Serena claimed 5'10 and 5'9, not 1.75 as far as I know

I think she is around 5'9.5. There are people who is 5'9 and not say I am 5'10 but 5'9. She could be last time measured late 5'9.5...

Just watch Serena and Michelle Obama...
burby said on 30/Sep/17
Sly is fully militarized in posture, Serena bending the knee(Insert Chapo Trap House/Game of Thrones joke here). Sly is Cruiser-ing with a 1.25" inch taller gal barefoot to barefoot.
Rising - 174 cm said on 30/Sep/17
@Djs: Which Rambo are you referring to? He was 165 in Rambo 2, 178-180 in Rambo 3 and 213-215 in the last Rambo. And a weak 5'9", but the latter debate will never end. However, his weight is easily found from his book Sly Moves, interviews and official site. He was 159 in Victory, which was his lowest film weight. He also dropped to 155 for Rocky 3, but built himself up to 163 for the film. He got back to his more typical 175-180 for the first Expendables and looks in that range now. I don't know about his weight in First Blood, but I'd guess 160 range.

Funny thing I realized was while Frankie and I may disagree as much as anyone on Sly's actual height, it seems we agree he hasn't shrunk much.
Rising - 174 cm said on 30/Sep/17
@Pierre: Serena moving around like that while laughing is not as good a position to compare as the two standing side by side posing. If you look at this one again: Click Here Sly's back and legs look straight, but his head is not up. Serena has one leg straight and doesn't look to be bending her knees much. I could have chosen this one, but I think she's not standing as straight as the other: Click Here And in this one, Sly is slouching himself while the camera is on Serena's side: Click Here There's not any real height difference that day with the footwear they're wearing. The other pose of Serena moving around while laughing is just not good for a pic to compare height. Of course, the height difference would be roughly the difference in footwear with Serena's 1/4" flats and Sly's 0.75" to 1" range dress shoes.

Melyst: Actually, she hasn't always claimed 5'9", she claimed 5'10" at one point as well, but who is contradicting her usual claim? Nobody. i said a solid 5'9" to 5'9.25". She is taller than Caroline, there are enough photos of the two side by side to show that. Many tennis players have thought she was 5'10", even 5'11". That's obviously not true, but 5'9.25" is more than possible. Most people don't include quarter inches. Sly is a minimum 5'8" even now and looks it with Serena. I think more like Rob's listing. I do agree that a full 5'9" is probably a bit high for his prime. More a fraction under and around 5'8.75" peak, imo.
Djs said on 30/Sep/17
5'7" and 154lbs in rambo.Being lean and broad shouldered with 3" lifts you are going to look so much bigger on screen
Melyst said on 30/Sep/17
Richardspain said on 29/Sep/17
Que no te enteras
Serenas Williams tennis player has claimed she is 5'9 and 175 cm. Both measurements in height and cm. So She is 5'8.75/ 5-9. Have you seen those potos with Stallone?. He has more foot advantaged and Serena being relax looks taller than him. She is 1 inch taller than him. Stallone is 173 cm today not over. He is one of the ones he has not even shrunk. He has maintence a good Athletic posture all his carrer trying to stay tall and look taller. The most he could hit in his youth is 174,5 cm. 175 maybe 2-3 hours after bed. A guy like him walking tall and with his shoes can look more than 175 or 5'9 but you can see he was not never ober 175 cm or 5'9! Have you seen Rocky movies? He even looked a bit below average or average at that time. But he looked beteween 5.8'5 5'9 max! Here are the photos with Serena who is max 5'9 she also said 175 cm tall. Look Stallone has more advantage and better posture:

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With luck Stallone was as tall as Serena but I don't really think so. He looks he was 1 cm less tan her. 174 cm 177? haha Ni idea tienes
Melyst said on 30/Sep/17
Richardspain said on 29/Sep/17
Que no te enteras!
Serenas Williams tennis player has claimed she is 5'9 and 175 cm. Both measurements in height and cm. So She is 5'8.75/ 5-9. Have you seen those potos with Stallone. He has more foot advantaged and Serena being relax looks taller than him. She is 1 inch taller tan him. Stallone is 173 cm today not over. He is one of the ones he has not even shrunk. He has maintence a good Athletic posture all his carrer trying to stay tall and look taller. The most he coul hit in his youth is 174,5 cm. 175 maybe 2-3 hours after bed. A guy like him walking tall and with his shoes can look more tan 175 or 5'9 but you can see he was not never ober 175 cm or 5'9! Have you seen Rocky movies? He even look a bit below average or average at that time. Bit he look beteween 5.8'5 5'9 max! Here are the potos with Serena who is max 5'9 she also said 175 cm tall. Look Stallone has more advantage and netter posture:

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With luck Stallone was as tall as Serena but I don't really think so. He looks he was 1 cm less tan her. 174 cm 177? haha Ni idea tienes
Richardspain said on 29/Sep/17
Stallone was a strong 176 cm barefoot in peak,with sneakers 178cm maybe 179cm with shoes
Melyst said on 29/Sep/17
Why Yous guys always try to boost and upgrade heights? Serena's oficial height is 5'9. She also always claimed she is 5'9. She looks like a 5'9 woman at most also. And If Serena says she is 5'9 is the hight height she can be, so nobody would say less about his own height..Serena at 5'9 is a good proof to see how Stallone looks today. Dont also say an excuse he shrunk a full inch because he never was over 5'9... lol at 176-177 cm. He was beteween 5'8.3- 5.8'75 in his peak and 5'9 at morning hours
Melyst said on 29/Sep/17
polo said on 28/Sep/17

I think you are a bit blind. Don't you see Sly is straight as always? Serena is just relax. Figured out If Serena would stay straight .. Also Sly shoes more advantage.
He is 5'8 today at most 5.8'75 in the past not a legit 5'9
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Melyst said on 29/Sep/17
polo said on 28/Sep/17

Ithink you are a bit blind: Don't you see Sly is straight as always? Serena just relax. Figured out if Serena would stay straight .. Also Sly shoes more advantege.
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Pierre said on 29/Sep/17
Click Here =here Click Here =and here i see her taller than Sylvester
polo said on 28/Sep/17
People here who are saying that serana has 1 inch on Sly should give some evidences because i can't find them. I see no advantage for serena williams.
Rising - 174 cm said on 28/Sep/17
He's not an inch shorter than Serena. They're about the same height, though Sly has at least a half inch footwear advantage: Click Here And I don't know where the 5'8.75" is coming from for her, more 5'9"-5'9.25" range, imo as she's taller than 5'9" listed Caroline Wozniacki. Sly would obviously be shorter than Serena if they had equal footwear, but I'm not convinced those shoes Sly has are even a full 1". The heel isn't very big and based on how flat they are, there doesn't look much room for much of an insole.
Melyst said on 28/Sep/17
Today he is somewhere 5'7.75 -5'8
Peak 5'8.5 5'8.75 max. He was not even 5'9. Amazing some few claim he was over 176 cm just dreaming
Tim said on 28/Sep/17
Anonymous said on 27/Sep/17
Why you said that? instead of just say something info yourself . Read below those pics next to Serena Williams a legit 5'8.75-5'9. She has 1 inch on Sly. This guy is 5'8 today and with luck he was very close to 5'9 . 176-177 with sneakers please
Brad said on 27/Sep/17
The Oscars 40+ years ago rival Rocky Balboa premiere Munsters...those things could have been used as boat anchors. Hey Real, who was the biggest twerp backstage? The first Rocky training videos when he was wearing standard boxing shoes are pretty the filming he was in wedged customs with great camera work.
Anonymous said on 27/Sep/17
Peak 176-177 cm
Today 174 cm
Rising - 174 cm said on 27/Sep/17
This pic of Sly and 5'10" Chris Rock surprised me: Click Here It surprised me because it was taken last year in the middle of a maybe 2 or so year stretch where I don't remember thinking Sly wore lifts to any event I saw him at. These other 2 pics makes a bit more sense, though when you consider Rock is slouching: Click Here Click Here Of course, my position is that all photos of Sly where you can't see feet should be taken with a grain of salt, but they can be interesting nonetheless.

The heels he had at the 1977 Oscars don't look any bigger than 2" to me, but he does look taller than he should -- near 5'11", imo -- so he maybe he had same extra help inside his boots and/or Ali's slouching helped. Sly didn't that night in a picture with a 69 year old John Wayne: Click Here

@Jim Hopper: We may not agree on many heights, but we do agree on this. It's almost like Sly has picked up on our curiosity about his height and has decided to mess with us. Sly made himself a 6 footer for this pic with a prime Rock, who I believe was a full 6'3" back then: Click Here This doesn't mean he passed for a 6 footer at the event, of course. I think he'd look 5'10.5" to 5'11" at most events during that time, but keep good posture while the person you pose with slouches, move just a bit closer to the photographer and/or go up on your toes a bit and suddenly, Sly is "Walking Tall."

@HeightcrazyRed6ft: Agree on peak, though 173 is the absolute lowest I'd go for current height. And whatever Sly is taking in recent years, it seems he knows what he's doing. That's a key as well as genetics. Last I saw Jose Canseco, he still looked good, yet his former "Bash Brother" Mark McGwire looked terrible when he returned as a hitting coach and I specifically remember he was still young at the time at only 46. The reason I remember is because I was shocked at how old and deteriorated he looked.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 27/Sep/17
Peak 174-175cm
Today 172cm

seems he managed his roids pretty good, or has all the luck in this world
Frankie68 said on 26/Sep/17
@Brad ,,I totally agree !! If you look close at the video he has an over 2 inch heel & god knows whats stuffed inside !!
Brad said on 26/Sep/17
He was in massive heeled customs with Ali at the Oscars 40+ years ago. At 5' 8.5" versus six three he had to be heeled and ramped.
Rising - 174 cm said on 26/Sep/17
@Real Annonymous: That's a pretty cool job. The Santana tour was pretty recently, right? Rod was still at least 5'10.5" then?
Jim Hopper said on 26/Sep/17
The guys insane. One picture he looks just about 5-8 in others looks over 6-0 lol
THE REAL ANNONYMOUS said on 25/Sep/17
Rising ... yes Rod Stewart is easily 5'10.5
I have worked about 5 of his shows the last one being when he toured with Santana. Did security as a second job for 17 years and
had the good fortune of working front and back of stage for pretty every major act that has toured North America
Rising - 174 cm said on 25/Sep/17
@Pierre: We can't see their feet, plus they're both about 70 in that pic while Stewart was probably still at his peak height in the photo with Sly

@Real Annonymous: Really? That's surprising, I usually go with the lower claim of the two. Maybe he was 5'10.5"?
John b said on 25/Sep/17
Its lame that co stars diss him. The guy is super talented. It doesn't matter in life but on screen you want the shot to look right on the screen. I can fit Tom Cruise in my carry on luggage.. So what. So what if in a real fight I would make him cry & snap him in 2 like a sesame stick These guys are awesome. It's imaginary. It's theater. It's pretend you're not puppet for 2 hours. Who cares if he needs a significant boost to reach his elevator shoe rack. I kid guys I'm a Lil on the short side
THE REAL ANNONYMOUS said on 24/Sep/17
Hey Rising i have met Rod Stewart... actually was around him for the better part of the day as i worked Security at his dressing room.
I would say he is closer to 5'11 than 5'10
Pierre said on 24/Sep/17
Comparisons Sylvester/Rod Stewart.Now Rod Stewart next to Paul McCartney in 2013 (current height 5"9.5' here)= Click Here Don't know the shoes,Paul look taller than him by at least a good inch here imo
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Sep/17
If Serena were only 5'8" then I'd say Sly could only be 5'7.5", but having a fairly quick look at Serena, I believe she's more of a strong 176 cm or 5'9.25". Here is what she looks like side by side with an apparent 5'7" Angelique Kerber:

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Serena looks more than just 2" taller. In fact, I believe Serena at a strong 5'9" and Kerber at a weak 5'7" range is the least the difference could be. Sly looks much taller than Kerber in comparison, even considering the at least half inch footwear advantage he has over Serena. But Serena also generally appears taller than Caroline Wozniacki, who Rob also lists 5'9": Click Here Click Here Rather than a weak 5'9", I see her more of a strong 5'9". Given how Serena looks to me, I see Sly 5'8.5" with her or 5'8.25" minimum even if she is only a flat 5'9".
HarrySachs said on 23/Sep/17
Barberboy This has been discussed so many times before. Muhammad Ali was 6'2. George Foreman was 6'3.
Rising - 174 cm said on 23/Sep/17
Sly and Rod Stewart back in 2002: Click Here Stewart has claimed both 5'10" and 5'11". I believe the 5'10" claim and Rob's 5'10" listing for him. He'd clearly be an inch or so taller than Sly if he wasn't leaning, but Sly looks to have normal dress shoes to me while Stewart has boots that may add a fraction more. A weak 5'9" for Sly looks believable there all things considered, imo. Funny thing is, the press has been even more unfair to Stewart over his height than Sly despite the fact that Stewart is taller and does not exactly have the Rambo image.

@Johan: I use to have Sly at 5'8.25" currently, but I actually now think he's still held onto 5'8.5", which is previously what I had him in 2013-2014, but now I think he could have still been 5'8.75" at that time and just dropped a fraction in 2015. But imo, there's a pretty good chance of Sly measuring anywhere from 5'8" to 5'8.5" today and anywhere from 5'8.5" to 5'9" in his prime. One thing I've been thinking lately is I may be too quick to assume Sly has an additional lift anytime I see him in a boot after seeing Rob and others don't make this same assumption for Cruise, Gibson, Diesel, Pitt etc. Here's video of Sly in cowboy boots with Arnold 4 years ago: Click Here Go to 1:23 and you'll see Sly and Arnie posing together and the camera zoom in on their footwear. Here's 2 full photos as well: Click Here Click Here Many will substitute boots like cowboys for elevators as they accomplish much of the same purpose as a moderate elevator. If you remember the boots Sly wore to Cannes a year later without as much of a heel, I'm almost certain he had lifts then and may have even measured up better to Arnold then. But seeing his torso and posture here in 2013, he doesn't look the least bit shrunken to me, so it may have just been the last few years he lost anything noticeable. Arnie doesn't have less than 3 cm footwear himself, but Sly's posture is clearly better.

@Rob: What do you think about this Comic Con Escape Plan premiere video and pics?
Barberboy said on 23/Sep/17
Next to 6'3 Muhamed Ali at the oscars for Rocky he managed to look 5'11ish. Given his reputation for wearing lifts I'd say 5'9 is about right. Still a thick set strong looking guy though!
Rising - 174 cm said on 22/Sep/17
Of course, average life expectancy for an American man is 76-77 years old last I checked, which means Clint Eastwood died a decade ago because Clint is "not an exception." This also means that Sly will shrink to six feet under in a half dozen years.
Rising - 174 cm said on 22/Sep/17
@Danimal: This is beyond silly. Key word is AVERAGE. That means some lose more and some lose less. It's not a RULE so there's no need for one to be an exception. And as long as we're talking about averages, on what planet does this look like the shape of the AVERAGE 70 year old man? Click Here

The average 70 year old man also slouches and often has a curved spine -- Sly does not. Regardless of his actual height, there's no way Sly has lost over an inch from his prime. Hell, most young people nowadays don't have posture this good: Click Here Do you see any spinal curvature? Since you insist Arnold was 6'1.5" and he is also 70, that means Arnold must still be over 6'0.25" because "Arnold is not the exception."

Look at this article that uses the same survey you obsess over: Click Here

"But averages hide wide variability: Some people lose an inch or more in a single decade, some shrink only after age 60 or 70, and a few don’t shrink at all."

One more point, look at the details of that survey: "The authors studied 2,084 men and women aged 17-94 years enrolled from 1958 to 1993 in the Baltimore Longitudinal Study of Aging, Baltimore, Maryland."

So if they used an equal amount of men and women, that means this was based on 1,042 men....that's out of over 119 MILLION adult men in the US. AND this study started 59 years ago and concluded 24 years ago. Furthermore, do you really think the AVERAGE man has access to medical care, nutrition, gym equipment etc. even remotely comparable to Sly? Burby's estimates are plausible. Personally, I'd go 1/4" to 1/2" higher, but that's just me. The misunderstanding of what an average is puzzles me to say the least.
Johan said on 22/Sep/17
Still 5'8" there next to Serena who would be about 5'9" 1/4 there in those flats. Still could be 5'8.25" even as he has at most 0.75 advantage there in shoes.
Anonymous said on 22/Sep/17
Stallone was 177 cm in peak barefoot.

Nowadays 174 cm is very possible.
Johnson said on 22/Sep/17
He is taller than 5'9 Michael Jackson in the pictures!!
Danimal said on 21/Sep/17
burby said on 19/Sep/17
newman said on 18/Sep/17
He is 5'8 today and 5'8.5 in his peak

The average 70 year old man will have lost over 1" (1.2") in height from their peak. Sly is no exception. 5'8"-5'8.5" peak and around 5'7 1/4" today.
THE REAL ANNONYMOUS said on 21/Sep/17
hey Barry FI
Sly suffered a neck injury when he was doing a scene with Steve Austin during a fight scene in the Expendables. That might
account for his walk and posture.At times it seems like he has a stiff neck,
Rising - 174 cm said on 21/Sep/17
@Barry Fl: Couldn't arching your back too much make you look shorter? After a point, you might start to lean back a little. In Sly's case, I do think he has outstanding posture for any age, though I've surprisingly noticed him on a few occasions with a wide stance that would make him lose a bit of height. I think he has a clearly different walk and to some extent, stance when he's wearing lifts. A strong core like Sly has will make him stand more upright, but lifts or big heels also force your posture. Sometimes it's obvious he's making sure to stand as straight as he can even when he doesn't wear lifts, but it looks to me like he sometimes has a more exaggerated chest out stance, which you can see in a lot of the pics I posted of Sly looking taller than he should on September 12th and you can see the stiffer "lift walk" in some of the videos like Sly on Letterman in 2003 and on Wetten Dass in 2008. I've seen Michael Douglas get a similar walk and as far as the exaggerated posture, Vin Diesel is another example.

But if you look at him here with Van Damme in normal shoes, he looks pretty natural, imo as far as both his posture and proportions: Click Here Click Here
Same thing here: Click Here In fact, Banderas looks to be trying harder to look tall with his head up while Sly looks more casual. On a side note, it's funny to me that the one guy to go up on his toes is the legit six footer Kellan Lutz, despite standing with a bunch of 5'8"-5'9" range guys much shorter than him. Snipes did follow his lead and go up on his toes for some pics in that series as well, but that's not nearly as surprising.
Sly's stance doesn't really look too different in these pics with Statham either: Click Here Click Here

I posted the boots he wore to this event recently and you can see the more exaggerated chest out stance with Arnold, who had a cowboy type heel himself: Click Here
To some extent here in what look like his black Hogan sneakers with Randy Couture as well: Click Here
Frankie68 said on 21/Sep/17
I certainly now believe more than ever that Sly is under 5'8 & more like 5'7 flat since those pics of him with Serena Williams ,, Not only was she taller than him , she's in the flatest of shoes, If she's legit 5'8 -5'9 ,, than he certainly CANT be ,, And his shoes were also higher than her flats ,, so 5'8 -5'9 for Sly is out were im concerned !!
Barberboy said on 20/Sep/17
On stage at the oscars with 6'3 muhumad ali in the 70s he managed to look 5'11 no doubt he was wearing lifts, however I'd say at his peak he was probably a week 5'9 but a still a thick set strong guy.
Brad said on 20/Sep/17
Weak 5-8 with Miss Williams in flats. No NBA guys present, the big guns were left at home by the door next to Jennifer's umbrella.
Tim said on 20/Sep/17
Sly was as tall as Rob more or less a legit 5'8.3. There's a chance Sly was a bit over 5'8.5 he has been know of wearing lifts all his career. Today is 5'8
Frankie68 said on 20/Sep/17
@newman ,, i agree !! I always say Sly is under 5'8 ,, I think considering his shoe lifts of all sizes ( massive or mild) 5'7 without shoes on is my estimate ,,
MisterManletMick said on 20/Sep/17
my brother told me that he read a article in the 80s that he had leg extension surgery done to increase his height from 5 ft 6 to 5 ft 9 to play more physically imposing characters and to look taller next to his tall wife Bridgett Nielson who is at least 6 ft 1 if not taller, does anybody have a screenshot of this mythical newspaper or anything else mentioning leg extension surgery.
Tim said on 20/Sep/17
I always thought he has never hit 5'9 bu very very close. Just over 5'9 right after bed in his peak time. He was just over 5'8.5 max. A guy like Stallone has not shrunk like other ones. He has been walking tall his all life trying to be taller and today at 71 has a pretty good posture. So he has shrunk max 1-1'5 cm. Perfect list newman: Today 173 cm past: 174.5 max. Rob has a very good listening 0.5 inch less for him Rob
Barry Fl said on 20/Sep/17
I used to think Stallone had good posture for his age, but I was watching some behind the scenes movie footage of him lately and noticed something odd. rather than standing upright, he seems almost to be arching himself backward. Could this in some way be contributing to the illusion of greater height? It looked weird, but he was standing and walking around like that. I've also noticed that his walk (in films) can look a little odd, a little stiff. I sometimes joked about this being due to his Munster boots. Could be. Or maybe he's just afraid that if he bends his knees, even for an instant, he'll look shorter? :-)
Original said on 20/Sep/17
I agree with this: Peak: 5ft 8.94in (175.1cm) Current: 5ft 8.13in (173cm)
Rising - 174 cm said on 19/Sep/17
@Anonymous: Statham had at least an inch on Tom Cruise in Collateral and I think Cruise is 5'7.5", plus, you can see Statham clearly taller than Ryan Phillippe, Antonio Banderas, Mark Wahlberg and Ludacris, all of whom I believe are around 5'8" or certainly no shorter than Cruise. Then there's Mario Lopez, who I have at 174 cm and I'm almost positive Statham is no shorter having seen them together several times and Statham is really close in height to Wesley Snipes as well, who I'd say is a weak 5'9" or 5'8.5" absolute minimum. I can see Statham looking 5'8" with a slouch, but I strongly believe he's no more or less than 5'8.5". I agree Jet Li isn't 5'6", but I think Chan is still close to, if not 5'8" and was probably 5'8.5"-5'9" before the injuries took some of his height. As for Jet Li, you can seem him at the Lethal Weapon 4 premiere really not looking more than 3.5" shorter than 5'9" Mel Gibson so I think Rob's 5'5.5" listing is about right for him. I think Sly was slightly taller than Statham and is now the same height, except for when he wears lifts of course.
burby said on 19/Sep/17
newman said on 18/Sep/17
He is 5'8 today and 5'8.5 in his peak

Well hello newman...(Seinfeld voice). Weak 5'8" next to Serena in flats, no NBA stuffed shoes that day.
Rising - 174 cm said on 19/Sep/17
@newman: Look at this pic: Click Here

If Serena straightens up her knee, they'll be about the same height, but she does only have roughly 1/4" flats while Sly looks to have about 2 cm shoes to me(they look flat with little to no angle and a small heel). But while I agree with you on Sly's peak height - 5'8.75" or a weak 5'9" - it seems Serena is at least 5'9" and many on her page think she's a bit over it, if anything as the average guess on her page is just over 176 cm. But if we assume she's listed correctly then she'll be 5'9.25" with her flats making Sly about the same, but I'm not sure his shoes are a full inch so it could still put him around 174 cm, or at worst 5'8.25", imo. Either one is fine for his current height, but if anything that just shows to me that Sly will still clear 5'9" in just about any shoe.

@bernie: Look at my video of Sly and Burt. It's a much better reference and you see Sly clearly taller with at least 1 cm less footwear.
newman said on 18/Sep/17
Hi Rob. Stallone today is 173 cm max or 5'8.2 take a look to this photos: I'm just tired that everyone is trying to inflated all these actors height. I'm here to open everyones mind and to say the truth. Most of all actors and famous people are at least 1 inch shorter than they claim

Serena Williams is a legit 174.5 cm woman or 5'9 max. Listed on ATP 5'9 and for sure for everything I have watched she is anyway in the 174-175 cm range or 5'8.75-5'9
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Is just hilarous how people say Stallone is 175 cm today! He is 173 max and in my opinion he is 172,5 cm or 5'8 max. Take a look to his shoes higher than Serena. Stallone was a weak 5'8.75 in his peak and with the best luck in his best peak day a weak 5.8.75 - 5'9 max. Hope this info could change somebody's opinion. 5'9 for Stallone is just disrespect for honest 5'9 guys! He is 5'8 today and 5'8.5 in his peak
newman said on 18/Sep/17
Hi Rob. Stallone today is 173 cm max or 5'8.2 take a look to this photos: I'm just tired that everyone is traying to inflated all these actors height. I'm here to open everyones mind and to say the truth. Most of all actors and famous people are at least 1 inch shorter than they claim

Serena Williams is a legit 174.5 cm woman or 5'9 max. Listed on ATP 5'9 and for sure for everything I have watched she is anyway in the 174-175 cm range or 5'8.75-5'9
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Is just hilarous how people say Stallone is 175 cm today! He is 173 max and in my opinion he is 172,5 cm or 5'8 max. Take a look to his shoes higher than Serena. Stallone was a weak 5'8.5 in his peak and with the best luck in his best peak day a weak 5'9. Hope this info could change somebody's opinion. 5'9 for Stallone is just disrespect for honest 5'9 guys! He is 5'8 today and 5'8.5 in his peak
Brad said on 18/Sep/17
Bet he practiced walking down those steps in those MONSTER edged up customs. The Balboa premiere Munsters take the cake. The big guns come out when's looking for trouble.
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Sep/17
Nolifts81 said on 7/Sep/17
Guys I've met in Milan the famous Pr of Sly Stallone when He come in Italy.Her name is Tiziana Rocca and She is 181 cm barefoot.She says that Sly is Not so Short and was only a couple of inches shorter than her. In The hotels He was often barefoot so She and her stuff know well His height. She said To me 176 cm barefoot when He was young. A Hair over 5'9". I believe her! I've always thought He was 176cm.

But don't you think if Sly was near 175 cm then he'd still not look so short to her? It's not a big difference, but certainly Brigitte saw him barefoot a lot and said 174-175 as opposed to 176. Imo, this makes sense seeing some of the 70s films. He can easily look 176 cm, but if Armand Assante is 5'9.5" then Sly looks maybe 5'9" in Paradise Alley, just as co-star from that film Kevin Conway says. I don't really believe Assante would be taller than that. I hate to repeat myself, but Gazzara also looked at least an inch taller to me and he may have only been 177 cm range based on his own words. I see 174.5-175 cm as most likely and his good posture alone could make him look 176 cm at times compared to someone with looser posture like Statham.
Anonymous said on 18/Sep/17
@ Rising – 174cm

So you admit that Sly is pretty much Stathams height, but you also say Sly’s about 5’8.5”.
So in the movie “The one” where J.Staham is moving around Mr. Jet Li he seems barely taller than him, to be generous, let’s say 2 inches, no more.
And Jet Li is far away from 5’6”, much to short, the best he could reach is 5’4” – 5’5”max. In some shots Jet Li even appears 3” shorter than 5'7.5 - 5'7.75 Jackie Chan..
So there we have two different comments here…
Which one is to be right? Let me know, please
Frankie68 said on 17/Sep/17
@pierre I agree !
bernie said on 17/Sep/17
@ Pierre - good pic from rocky 4,we all know it of course... You say "no big difference.." i would even say "no difference" when you subtract Slys hair. Pauly's in bad posture, nevertheless almost same eye level, even his shoulders seem to be higher. If he'd stand straight he would be no shorter than Sly. To me the proof, Sly was never taller than 172cm/ 5'7.75". Pauly never was taller than 5'7.5-5'8"..
@Rising - 174: I don't see 174 - 175cm for Sly here, no matter how hard i try, sorry.. let me know, please..
Rising - 174 cm said on 17/Sep/17
@Pierre: Here's video of Sly and Burt with a wide shot: Click Here Footwear is clearly visible at 1:08 and you can clearly see Sly has less footwear with 0.6" Converse while Burt has at least 1" boots, yet Sly is still clearly taller. When I posted this scene from Rocky 3 of Burt and Carl Weathers: Click Here Rob said 5'8" is possible for Burt back then. Here's Burt in the mid 80s with Ralph Macchio who Rob has estimated around 5'7.5" at the time and De Niro in his prime: Click Here Click Here Even with better posture and a footwear advantage - possibly lifts - De Niro is only 3 cm taller than Burt: Click Here

I don't believe Sly was much taller than Burt, but he's definitely taller based on how he looked in Converse with Burt in boots. Burt was somewhere from 5'7.5" to 5'8" and Sly somewhere from 5'8.5" to 5'9", imo. So it depends on if you consider about an inch to be a big difference. Based on the ranges I give for both, the difference could be as small as half an inch and as big as 1.5".
Rising - 174 cm said on 16/Sep/17
@burby: One trick that Kane Hodder(Jason Voorhees in 4 Friday the 13th movies) apparently used was rolling up socks and placing them above the heel of the boot. I don't know how many options there were for the average person back in '75, though. I don't think you're going to quite get 3" out of those Hogan sneakers without falling out of them, though. Maybe if they were high tops. Of course, I could be wrong. I think he may get close enough at 2.5" to 2.75" anyway. I'm pretty curious what kind of insole those sneakers come with off the rack.

Of course, there were times the Hogan sneakers wouldn't do. I can imagine Sly being told he was booked on this show and discovering the host was supposed to be 192 cm. "Hmmm, that's about 6-foot-3 and 5/8ths of an inch...time to break out the big guns" *Takes off Hogan sneakers and substitutes for them elevator boots in a sequence similar to that in Rambo 2 after the half Vietnamese girl dies in his arms*: Click Here He wore these thick dress boots, likely custom: Click Here Something similar at Rocky Balboa premiere: Click Here Some of those types may have been 3" custom elevator boots. These may have had the potential for 3.5" range: Click Here but I'd have to see how he actually looked in them to see what they actually added. I've seen Sly wear black boots that look like they may have been from the same shoemaker.
Brad said on 16/Sep/17
Those Denzel's are whoppers. Burbs knows face first goin down the Laker steps if not in shape wedged. No railings.
Rising - 174 cm said on 15/Sep/17
@Frankie68: I should add as well I shouldn't be as quick to question whether someone is trolling based on how they see things because for a solid year two during the end of the Glenn years, I ardently argued Sly was the legit 5'10" to me, which from my current position seems as far off. But I can say I honestly believed that at the time and wasn't intending to troll regardless of how wrong I turned out being.

@Mado-sport: I think both men are 174 cm today. I agree Sly was taller, but not that much taller when they did the Expendables films(at least the first two and at least from the looks of the events for the 3rd). Sly was only "much taller" when he wore boots and/or lifts. This is Sly and Statham within the past year: Click Here You can compare them for a few seconds when they get off the ramp around the 13 second mark and again around 45 seconds. Footwear should be pretty close, imo as Sly looks to me like he has normal 1" range dress shoes while Statham's boots look at least that much, but not more than a fraction more max: Click Here Click Here These days, they both look about the same height.
Pierre said on 15/Sep/17
Click Here =Sylvester next to Burt Young listed 5"7.5' at his peak,Burt in poor posture= no big difference at the peak of their heads imo if Burt was in the same posture as Sylvester(Burt seem to have a stronger forehead)
burby said on 14/Sep/17
Pre-fame Sly was probably stackin' insoles with Connors. "Customs" on the cheap literally. Here's hoping he wasn't using cardboard. Good thing Sly didn't go face first in the hardwood with Denzel, 3"'s are gonna do that....
Rising - 174 cm said on 14/Sep/17
@Brad: Not custom actually, but probably at least 2.5" total: Click Here This is what he's wearing there: Click Here I think he just put his own lifts into them. As Rob said, the sneaker might have an extra thick insole to begin with, but I think Sly's ankle in some of them points to him putting an extra insole lift in them. He had all different colors of those Hogan sneakers. He wore the black ones most for the period around the last Rambo film and a few times since. As far as I can tell, he started wearing them around 2003 if you look at this appearance on Letterman from that year: Click Here A pair like those just sold on Ebay: Click Here In case the direct link to Ebay doesn't work, here's the image: Click Here

He does genuinely pull off around 5'11" to me with Letterman even considering posture - much like he did in the black ones with Randy Couture - but I believe Letterman might wear more 0.7"-0.8" type shoes so perhaps 2" less than Sly. But with Denzel, check out Sly's arm around his shoulder in both pics. Outside of the "Stallone effect" (i.e., chest out posture) he could be pushing Denzel down slightly into more a loose stance or a slouch.
Tonyx said on 14/Sep/17
5ft11in... in shoes.
Frankie68 said on 13/Sep/17
Havent been on in a few days @ rising , I agree with you !
Brad said on 13/Sep/17
Custom 2.5" with Denzel. Wedged for the ballers.
Mado-sport said on 13/Sep/17
Actually sylvester stallone much taller than jason statham height 174.5 and sylvester is 174 impossible! !!!
Rising - 174 cm said on 12/Sep/17
@Pierre: You missed my point entirely. I posted those 2003 photos for 2 reasons.

A.Because they're kind of funny after seeing Sly a good 4" shorter before and after.
B.To show that just because someone manages a height in a photo doesn't mean they actually looked that tall on that day. That's what "Sly" tricks are for. Sly probably looked 5'10.5"-5'11" that day, but the man has spent decades in front of and behind a camera. He knows tricks to look taller. That's why I post candid videos whenever possible. Here's Sly that same day with his bigger little brother Frank: Click Here By your logic, we must also say Denzel Washington could not have been 6'0"-6'0.25" because Sly makes himself almost as tall in these two photos: Click Here I know Sly was wearing Hogan sneakers on that occasion, which Rob and I both estimate as adding 2.5"-2.7" over barefoot height when Sly adds lifts to them.

With 6'0" Adrien Brody: Click Here and 5'11.5"-6'0" Arnold that same day: Click Here Yet I'm pretty sure if you find the video and see Sly's footwear or other photos from that day, I don't even think he was wearing some of his bigger footwear or looking that tall. He just pulled off much taller in these photos for whatever reason.

And 2 separate events from 2006-2007 with 6'1" Tom Arnold: Click Here One a candid and one a posed shot. In the candid with Tom Arnold he was wearing thick black footwear, but not the Hogans so maybe those even added 3". As of now, I don't know the footwear in the posed shot.

From these photos, you'd think Sly could regularly look like a six footer, even 6'1" one at times, yet that's nonsense. It's illusions from the photos. My personal belief is Sly was a weak 5'9" man until the last few years or more broadly somewhere from 5'8.5" to 5'9" and wore 2.5"-3" footwear pretty often over the years which could make him look as tall as a 5'10.5" or 5'11" man in normal shoes. Think about a real 5'11" man for a second. Are you telling me a 5'11" man can't look an inch or two taller than he actually is with a camera, posture or ground advantage? Especially one who likes to move closer to the camera like Sly or Pitt and Gibson for that matter. Many photos can't be taken as literal accurate representations, ESPECIALLY when you can't see feet. This is even more true with someone like Sly who goes "up and down like a yo-yo" as Tom put it.

Carl looks about 6'0.5" in the recent picture with Rob taken when he was in his late 60s. Rob confirms he's looked somewhere from 6'0.5" to 6'1" all three times he's met Carl aged 62-67 and Carl has regularly claimed 6'2", which was also what he was listed at in the NFL. It's a pretty safe guess Carl was at least a full 6'1" man in his prime, if he's not still today. 2 pictures where we can't see feet or ground and Sly is in lifts with better posture looks closer to Carl's height than he should do not change that fact.

As for Connors lol, I have to admit picturing Sly's reaction to co-starring with the 6-foot-5 giant is pretty funny, but in all seriousness, I don't believe Sly had lifts when he was struggling to work in 1975, but he did have cowboy boots and other thick-heeled footwear that was typical of the day.
Barry Fl said on 12/Sep/17
Tom said on 9/Sep/17
He goes up and down like a yo-yo. Sometimes he looks a solid 5'10'. Other times he looks no more than 5'8''. Maybe his lifts can be adjusted by pushing a button.

Ha ha ha. Spot on!
Barry Fl said on 12/Sep/17
Pierre said on 11/Sep/17
@Rising=Pictures Sylvester Carl 2003=this pictures could prove one thing= Carl could'nt be 6"1' because if sylvester can look around his height...

He doesn't.
Pierre said on 11/Sep/17
@Rising=Pictures Sylvester Carl 2003=this pictures could prove one thing= Carl could'nt be 6"1' because if sylvester can look around his height...
Brad said on 11/Sep/17
"Chuck Connors...gulp" Let's see, white pages Los Angeles...ummmm height enhancing, custom elevator footwear....
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Sep/17
Sly and Carl from 1999 to early this year: Click Here

I don't think the difference between them has changed much. Btw, it's amazing that Sly looked significantly younger than Carl in the mid to late 90s, yet today Carl looks significantly younger and with less obvious procedures. In terms of physical shape, Sly is probably in the most impressive shape of any 70 year old in Hollywood or possibly even over 60 for that matter, but Carl can genuinely look a decade younger than he is. He'd be great in an Expendables 4.

Just for fun, here they are in 2003: Click Here Click Here Not too subtle a difference, huh? I wonder what some of these people who worked with Sly decades ago thought when they saw him suddenly appear not much shorter than them. I've gotten a few funny looks from people when I've worn big lifts and a few have pointed out my newfound height.

That's exactly why I no longer read much into how Sly can look in lifts in anything other than full pics and video. Sly can look like a six footer in those shots yet I don't really believe he can actually pass for a six footer with the obvious exception of the Judge Dredd costume. I do think he could look like a 5'11" man often and 5'10.5" pretty easily in lifts, but as I've tried telling people on the Pitt page, being able to look a height in a photo does not mean you can actually pass for it outside of a photo with ideal conditions.
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Sep/17
@Frankie: I agree to some extent, but Dolph both was never a full 6'5" AND REALLY shrunk. Actually Dolph even claimed 6'5.5" and 6'6" back in the 80s! I do think he was a minimum 6'4" and likely over it due to his huge head, but is now 6'3" max. Mr. T looked pretty big to me throughout the 80s, but was already looking no more than 5'10" or so over a decade ago and I'm pretty sure more 5'9.5" now. Burt has shrunk big time and is incredibly hunched, but funny enough, he's changed the least outside of maybe Carl, that's the benefit of looking old young in Burt's case, much like Robert Duvall, Gene Hackman etc. Burt really didn't look that short with Carl in the gym in Rocky 3, yet I can only imagine how they'd look today.

Carl is still looking tall this year and has probably not shrunk much, if any, but I really don't think Sly has shrunk as much as his shoes have. He just masked the difference with Weathers well in the past due to heels and clever camera angles, but always towered over him by at least 4" without those things. I'll post a comparison of those two when younger and now.
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Sep/17
@Frankie: It's no problem. I apologize if I was disrespectful as well. Travolta's heel isn't exposed as much as Sly, but check out their appearance on The Tonight Show in 1983: Click Here If you look at Travolta's left foot, I see quite a large Cuban heel. It's a black pair of boots again, so it's possible it's the same one wore in the photoshoot with Sly. Here's Sly still in heels with Travolta in low heeled footwear(probably half inch or so): Click Here Sly looks 1"-1.5" shorter, imo. Even if Sly has a full 2" footwear advantage, I think that adds up to him being 3"-3.5" shorter barefoot. I think assuming the heels more or less cancel each other out likely won't be far wrong. Even comparing my 2.75" Cubans to my 2" Cubans, the difference in actual height gained is a half inch max, maybe 1 cm and even if Sly has a fraction larger heel, I don't think the difference is that big because I'm almost certain both are bigger than 2" heels, but not into the size of those heels Downey wore for Iron Man 2. Here's another photo of the two back then: Click Here Footwear: Click Here If you look at Sly's knee height and proportions, I don't think he has anything beyond a typical 2" range heel.

In general, I try to avoid anything other than full pics and video with Sly because of how tricky he is. There are enough variables to begin with so adding in possible ground, tip-toes, bent knees etc. certainly doesn't make things easier.
Harris said on 10/Sep/17
What's the shortest and tallest estimate you have for his peak, Rob?
Peter181cm said on 10/Sep/17
I think he was 1.76m or 5'9.25 in good days..

Normal his height was 1.75m or 5'9

Now he is 1.73m or 5'8
Frankie68 said on 10/Sep/17
I think the only character from the old ROCKY movies that hasnt shrunk (lol) is Carl Weathers ,, He still looks as tall as he did back then , or maybe the others just werent as tall as depicted or as tall as people thought ,, Mr T shrunk ,, Sly shrunk ,, Hulk Hogan REALLY shrunk ,, and Dolph shrunk or was never 6'5 as he claimed .. & Burt Young looks 5'5 5'6 nowadays ,,
Tom said on 9/Sep/17
He goes up and down like a yo-yo. Sometimes he looks a solid 5'10'. Other times he looks no more than 5'8''. Maybe his lifts can be adjusted by pushing a button.
burby said on 9/Sep/17
Serious wedge action with Connors. Frankie has it kinda right...for Sly 2017 height.
Frankie68 said on 9/Sep/17
Travolta does not have heels on as big as Sly !! Cmon !! Not in leo's pics ,, but in risings pics The height difference looks different so who know's ,, I'll stick to my claim of Sly being under 5'8 ,,, I dont see 5'8 1/2 or 5'9 without elevators ,,
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Sep/17
@Rob: Could be. Although Sly has done remarkably well. Sometimes, when I think Sly is looks as though he could have been a more solid 5'9" guy like 176 cm, I go back and remind myself of his shortest looking 70s appearances such as being edged by Armand Assante in Paradise Alley, at least an inch shorter than Gazzara in Capone, 3" shorter than Liotta in Cop Land(with a half inch less footwear) and just generally looking pretty short in Farewell My Lovely. I think Sly is a prime example of why we must sometimes weigh the earlier appearances more. Had Sly not slowed down on the lift wearing in 2009 and we had mostly appearances from 2003-2008 to go by, even with his obvious lifts I'd bet he'd be assumed to be a 5'9.5" guy because even by the time he filmed the 1st Expendables and started wearing normal dress shoes a lot, he was 63, so if not for Sly looking a 5'8"-5'9" range guy often in the 70s, we'd have had no way of knowing if he had been taller and lost height since. As it is, I think he's only lost a 1/4" to a 1/2" so far. I'll give him a legit 5'8 3/4" at his peak, maybe, just maybe 5'8 7/8" ;). I'm only half serious giving figures that precise, but he does really look a 5'8.5" guy to me still, or at worst a 5'8.25" guy who fools me with his posture. But to your point, we now have people thinking Dolph was always a 6'3" guy because of how he appears now and believing Clint was always a 6'2" man for the same reason. Carl Weathers appearing 6'0.5"-6'1" at age 69 still hasn't even convinced everyone he was a full 6'1"! Chuck Norris is another guy who did remarkably well to still maintain at least 172 cm at age 77 despite peaking at 174 as his Shatner maintaining about 5'7.5" at nearly a decade older than Norris despite possibly being the same height peak or at most, a half inch taller than Norris. Time will tell how Sly does against an opponent tougher than Drago, Clubber, Apollo etc.--father time!

@bernie: I agree with a 3" minimum difference, but I think it's a mistake to assume lifts with heels already that big. Both probably have heels in the 2.5"-3" difference, which accomplishes what an elevator would, except you didn't have to hide your lifts back then because big heels were in style. I have 2.75" Cuban heel boots myself, but they only boost me to 5'10.5" or so--I'll have to check again exactly when not wearing lifts inside--but even when I wear 1" lifts inside, they only make me 181 cm, so even standing on 3.75", I get 1" less than that in actual height, so even on the off chance Sly put a 1"-1.5" lift inside, the lifts wouldn't give him that much extra. You can take what I say with a grain of salt if you want, but I'm sure Rob will say that 1" lifts and 2.75" Cuban heels taking me to roughly 181 cm makes sense. I don't think some realize just how big a lift anything over 1" is. Even Robert Downey Jr. is probably putting 1"-1.5" in his high tops. If Sly and Travolta have the same size heels and we call the difference 3" then I don't believe Sly could have big enough lifts to be 4.5" shorter barefoot. An extra 1" lift inside will give him only a half to 3/4" advantage over Travolta.

Even if one argues the Travolta pics can't be proof of Sly being 5'9" because he could have an extra lift, I certainly don't think it can be used as evidence of Sly being more than 3.5" shorter either. Like I said, if we look at the two men without heels in 1997 in full body pics, Sly can easily pass for taller than 5'9", which could be posture, a subtle lift or the camera, but I think it makes it all the more doubtful Sly was less than 5'8.5" peak if Travolta is 6'0"-6'0.25". But I welcome your opinion because while I don't view 172 cm as possible, it's only an inch less than I have Sly so I don't think it's trolling either and your posts have been respectful and serious, so despite my strong disagreement, I'll always hear you out.
Brad said on 8/Sep/17
6' 5" Chuck versus a 5' 8.5" Sly in ramped up customs.
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Sep/17
Here's Sly pretty recently with an actual solid 5'7" man Jerry Bruckheimer: Click Here As most would expect, Bruckheimer -- who Rob lists 171 cm -- looks noticeably shorter than Sly. This was taken in the middle of a solid 2 year period where I can't recall one event Sly attended with suspicious looking shoes so the usual excuse will be pretty baseless in this case. Sly being taller than Bruckheimer is a truth as obvious as Sly being shorter than Travolta.
Nolifts81 said on 7/Sep/17
Guys I've met in Milan the famous Pr of Sly Stallone when He come in Italy.Her name is Tiziana Rocca and She is 181 cm barefoot.She says that Sly is Not so Short and was only a couple of inches shorter than her. In The hotels He was often barefoot so She and her stuff know well His height. She said To me 176 cm barefoot when He was young. A Hair over 5'9". I believe her! I've always thought He was 176cm.
Frankie68 said on 7/Sep/17
@rising ,, look at leo's pics ,,, look good ,, look at the cowboy boots of him in the chair ,, the foot angle ,, the size of the heel ,,, I know we got off on the wrong foot but its all good ,, i would chat with you anytime ,, im just a ball breaker & if i offended you in any way im sorry !!! But u gotta admit he looks awfully short in leo's pics !! And he got the gassed up boots on !!! We'll anyway sorry about everything & peace out !!!
Frankie68 said on 7/Sep/17
@ leo ,, a 6' travolta towering over Stallone in his massive cowboy boots ,, it dont get any better ,, maybe travolta is standing on a box 😂😂...
Rising - 174 cm said on 7/Sep/17
Btw, speaking of early on, has anyone seen Sly in Police Story? I watched his appearance again recently and fortunately, also found it online to link: Look at a young Sly in 1975 guest-starring with 6'5.5" Chuck Connors: Click Here Even if we say Chuck was a flat 6'5" by his 50s, a 5'7" man would literally be a full head smaller (i.e., his head could rest below Connors' chin). Although Sly undoubtedly benefits walking on the higher sidewalk, his head winds up reaching more around Connors' nose when they're walking side by side. In fact, Sly doesn't look the least bit short in this episode if you remember Connors was about 9" over average height for his generation. 5'7" is impossible. 5'8.5"-5'9" range is accurate.
Rising - 174 cm said on 7/Sep/17
You heard him, Rob! It's been proven. You must downgrade Sly to 5'7" now. Of course, Travolta has heels just as big as Sly's if you look at Frankie's footwear pic and the difference is about 3" in that first side by side magazine cover. So really, ceteris paribus, Sly looks about 5'9" with Travolta.

Of course, as long as proof qualifies as pics without feet visible: Click Here
Footwear: Click Here

Here they are in 1997 sans heels: Click Here Click Here

A weak 5'9" should look short with a solid 6 footer. Of course, Sly showed in 1993 that need not always be the case due to footwear, but in the absence of that, what do we expect?
Editor Rob: as some of these stars enter their 70's and begin shrinking more, their peak heights might be 'forgotten' by many...Sly if he reaches 80 will begin to look 5ft 7 I feel, Arnie could be a 5ft 10 looking guy at most...
bernie said on 7/Sep/17
@ Leo - ok, both have heels, but i guess lifts are concealed for sure in Sly's boots, could be easily 1 - 1,5 inch.
So considering this assumption, i give Sly no more than 172 cm barefeet, caus in pic 2 the height difference is clearly minimum 3".
opinions are welcome...
Frankie68 said on 7/Sep/17
@leo ,, the best pics & probably the most convincing of a 5'7 claim,, He is short in the pics with those boots on ,, imagine without those boots on ,, Leo you have proved my under 5'8 claim !!! Lol !!! And the best part is those are from back in the day ,,, theres no way he was or is 5'8 or over ,,
Leo said on 7/Sep/17
With Travolta(6ft).
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Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Sep/17
@Pierre: You think Brigitte at 6'0" would be too tall to judge a 5'8.5"-5'9" man? Is Rob too tall to judge a 5'5" man? According to loka, she actually said 175 cm another time, but 174-175 is the one verified and that is specific. Narrowing his height down to 1 cm, or maybe she meant between it at 174.5. I'm sure she has a very good idea of how tall the man she lived with for a few years is having seen him barefoot countless times and filmed 2 movies with was. They had to make Sly as tall as Brigitte in Cobra so that would have given an even better idea of how big the difference was between them. I'm not saying Sly was definitely a full 175, just that he was somewhere from 174 to 175. Brigitte seems to have a good perception of height as she estimated Eddie Murphy between 5'9" and 5'9.5". I'd put Murphy in the middle at 176. I'm sure height came up frequently between Sly and Brigitte. Back when they were married, she would say Sly was 5'10"-5'10.5" and 6 ft with shoes as you see here while Eddie Murphy refers to Sly as 5'9": Click Here It's not so unlikely Brigitte may have even been told by Sly to say he's 5'10"-5'10.5" in public. DiFabrizio said he "evened up" Sly and Brigitte so is it a stretch that they may have sometimes coordinated what kind of shoes they'd appear in together? Imo, she's by far the best reference we have and her estimate also lines up with the vast majority of evidence.
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Sep/17
@Frankie: I'm referring to the character's height NOT the man himself. Hulk Hogan's character was supposed to be nearly 7', hence the box, by pointing out this fact, it doesn't suggest Hogan was actually anywhere close to that. So yes, Rocky's height listed in the film is a valid reference for Rocky's height. It's a well known fact the Rocky Balboa character was supposed to be 5'11" and they clearly emphasized Clubber's roughly 2" height advantage in the close ups, which lends credence to the 6'1" figure I've seen from multiple sources for the character. Mr. T passes for at least a 6'0" guy there so he's over that in cowboy boots, which add 1.6"-1.7" over barefoot height. I don't know where Sly is up on his toes. You have trouble following basic logic, though. I argue the logical position is that for Sly to remark about needing lifts to fight Dolph, this must have not been typical prior to that, otherwise, it'd have been superfluous to mention it specifically for Lundgren. It's possible I've erred in this conclusion, but I'll take my chances with the most logical conclusion.

As for the rest. Grow up. You've made the joke implying I'm gay for Sly a half dozen times. It's not even a good joke to begin with considering arguing Sly is 5'8.5"-5'9" instead of 5'10"-5'10.75" doesn't exactly sound like a means to that end. If this were my goal, it also wouldn't do me any favors to argue with RichardSpain when he says Sly was 177 cm. Also, why am I not surprised you can't figure out the arduous task of linking pictures? Listen to yourself "IF I knew how to post pics, I'd debunk you!" Yes, and if I hadn't been too young to fight Mike Tyson in his prime, I'd have beaten him! One statement is literally as meaningful as the other. As Harris said, I've posted a mountain of evidence to support this. More evidence than has really been posted on any other page.

Btw, Sly was obviously taller than Burt Young. You can clearly see this with Sly in 0.6" Converse and Burt in 1" boots, yet Sly is still clearly taller: Click Here Footwear is quite visible around 1:08, as is a wide shot of them. Burt was 5'7.5"-5'8" and Sly 5'8.5"-5'9". The difference looks a bit bigger than that because of Burt's horrendous posture. Btw, get Hooked on Phonics or something to at least get you up to a 2nd grade reading and writing level. Trying to decipher the language in your last posts just gave me a migraine.

And if you really want to get into armchair psychology, it seems evident you WANT Sly to be as short as possible. This is obvious from the obvious joy you get in proclaiming Sly to be 5'7". Your enthusiasm gave it away and because you haven't actually provided any evidence for this. It seems you literally just come to this page to have a forum to proclaim Sly to be 5'7". This could be a vain attempt to make yourself more impressive by convincing yourself you're as tall or taller as an actual impressive, accomplished man. Or if I stoop to your juvenile mentality, I might say you hold a grudge against the man, perhaps because he spurned your advances? Haha, I questioned your sexuality. Aren't I clever?
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Sep/17
Sly claimed 5'10" on twitter at one point, but this was around the first Expendables when I believe he was still at peak height. I don't know of anything more recent He definitely pulled off taller than Michael Rooker in Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Personally, I think both are 5'8.5". Boxing heights are often a joke, though. Joe Frazier at 5'11"-5'11.5"? Maybe 5'9".

Btw, this is kind of funny pic: Click Here I couldn't help but think of a photo where they order them in height and imagining Sly's satisfaction at passing for one of the "tall" action stars with Bruce and Arnie, when in reality, he should be in front with Kurt.
Brad said on 5/Sep/17
What's the latest Sly "I'm this tall" height fib? I would guess 5-10, a full deuce over barefoot reality '17. His 5' 10.75" is laughing gas. Marciano's height has always been a joke in programs/magazines/video.
Rising - 174 cm said on 3/Sep/17
Here's a couple of good sitting shots of the black Hogan sneakers in 2008: Click Here He may have bought them a size big to fit lifts into them easier. I forgot to mention, though that "5 inch lifts" don't really exist. There are some truly massive elevator boots that advertise as giving that much total, but you might get 3.75"-4" total height. Even a guy like Sly getting 2.5"-2.75" range often a decade ago is at the higher end.
Rising - 174 cm said on 3/Sep/17
@Tony: Men over 5'9" sometimes are concerned enough to wear big lifts (e.g., Burt Reynolds, Vin Diesel, Dean Martin), you're right you have to subtract an inch or two a lot, but Sly doesn't claim 5'9" himself. He claims 5'10" and for a while 5'10.5" with an early attempt claiming 5'10.75"(I believe so he could be taller than Rocky Marciano, who I doubt was as tall as listed himself). Most lift wearers are more average height, which makes sense because when you're Joe Pesci's size or even a bit bigger, they won't give you the illusion of average height. Actually, I use to see an infomercial for lifts and one of their lines they used to pitch it was "Poor Mike is only 5-foot-9"

@Brad: Fair enough. I still go with 5'8.5" minimum 3 years ago, but I do think he's lost at least a fraction since. Not much, though because in his shortest looking 70's appearance, I could swear he looks shorter than he does even today. As far as Banderas, I really don't know. He wears some of the biggest footwear I've seen. If you check out the premiere for Interview with the Vampire, he's really not looking taller than Cruise despite cowboy boots.
Harris said on 3/Sep/17
@Tony, how can you say that just because he was an avid lift-wearer he couldn't have been over 5'8" at the most? If you noticed he actually managed to look 5'11" range quite a lot throughout the years, which indicates that he obviously wanted to appear "tall" and 5'9" is merely an average height for a guy. Anything under 5'8.5" peak for Sly is simply fantasy. RisingForce has posted a ton of very clear photographic proof to support Rob's listings for a while now. How much evidence do some of you guys need?!?!
Frankie68 said on 2/Sep/17
Mr .T height on google search & on this site comes up as 5'10 ,, so 6'1 is laughable , if your gonna come to the table with a debate at least know what your talking about ,, The video game also gave a made up story of Clubber's life that was not depicted in the movie at all along with your 6'1 claim smart guy ! To me ,, because i have a brain ,, the 5'10 height refrence works well in relation to Carl Weathers cause in the pics you provided Mr T 's cowboy boots probably push him close to 6' ,, I also dont know how to load pics to this site cause id debunk u all day !!! Theres plenty of pics out there to prove how short your man crush truly is ,,
Frankie68 said on 2/Sep/17
@tony ,, your spot on !! Good stuff & agree 100% ,, @rising ,,im responding to your immature comments about "shoe lifts in boxing shoes disgusting " and Clubber Lang's height in a video game or Rocky's height on a computer fight against Dixon ,, those are your facts !!! LOL !! Your should pay more attention to your own inconsistancy's by scarring at the photo you provided in the ring from rocky 3 ,, Sly is tip toeing so bad it is distgusting !! He'd be no bigger than burt young !! If he's lucky !!
Pierre said on 2/Sep/17
@Rising=a video game isn't good to prove the real height of people.You write his ex-wife confirmed he was 174/175,which isn't very precise and can be an indication he was not looking a full 175 barefoot;i think more she has given an approximative number in an interview,i doubt she has measured him;and she was very high compared to him so more difficult to her to guess his real height.
hardguy said on 2/Sep/17
if you use the face measuring rule he has a really large face length
Tony said on 1/Sep/17
5"8 at most at his peak and that is being generous, he was probably shorter. I don't think a man at 5"9 (average height) in the 70s/80s (when he was at his peak) would have been so concerned about his height to justify wearing 5 inch lift shoes, so he had to be below 5"9. With celebrities and athletes you almost always have to subtract an inch or two to get their true height.
Rising - 174 cm said on 1/Sep/17
If Arnold was down to 5'11.5" by 2010 then I'd say Sly looks just about 175 cm at the Expendables Vegas screening: Click Here

All I can say is I think Arnie was down to 5'11.5" max by the time The Last Stand was released in early 2013. I'd say he was a flat 6' into his 2nd term as Governor and then lost a half inch sometime from his second term to his return to films. We do get a pretty good comparison of Sly and Statham sans slouch from that same screening: Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 1/Sep/17
@Frankie: Here you are with ad hominem attacks again when you complain me supposedly "bashing" you. Speaking of ignorance, the Clubber Lang character was supposed to be 6'1" according to the Rocky video game among other information -- why do you think Clubber is listed 6'1" on this page? Click Here The Rocky Balboa character is supposed to be 5'11" and they even show this on the stats in the graphic in Rocky Balboa so naturally, Clubber had to be taller than Mr. T's own 5'11" claim. Carl Weathers is still 6'0.5"-6'1" at 69 so there's no grounds for doubting he was a legit 6'1" in the early 80s, yet Mr. T looks noticeably taller than his claimed height in comparison: Click Here Click Here

There's really no need for me to dignify irrelevant, ignorant personal attacks as my personal life is not the issue, but I have work. In every subject, if someone seeks to discredit the person rather than the argument, it's because they don't have an argument. I was and still am perfectly willing to make sure I'm civil to you if and when you grow up. Unlike you, It appears you're right about one thing -- people believing what they want. I won't stoop to your level in speculating why, but speaking of Sly's wives, one of them who saw Sly barefoot repeatedly for years confirmed he was 174-175 cm.

Now don't tell me your attention span is so limited you can't follow this post.
Brad said on 1/Sep/17
Those boots on the tank Banderas has on coupled with his line-up shot is amazing...he has to be 5' 7.5". 3 years ago Sly was 5' 8.5" or 5' 8 and 1/4", I think he lost it the last three to 5' 8".
Rising - 174 cm said on 31/Aug/17
Here's an example of why even as late as Expendables 3, I'm not seeing a clear indication Sly had lost anything noticeable, maybe 1/4".

I'm almost positive Sly had normal dress shoes at the Expendables 3 Cannes red carpet, but I'm also pretty sure Sly had a lift in his boot for the press conference Click Here Not a huge lift, but the position of his foot doesn't look quite right. I would think he gets somewhere in the 2" range out of those with the lift. Mel Gibson on the other hand has thicker footwear as usual, but 1.25" New Balance and I don't think he has a lift in them, especially since he was just slightly taller than Snipes who only had 0.6" Converse. Sly did have about an inch on Gibson at the press conference: Click Here While on video at the red carpet with both in dress shoes, they were very close in height. Then with Statham, he's quite a bit taller: Click Here as you also see throughout the videos: Click Here but more notable is if you look at 1:44, he pulls off no more than 1.5" shorter than Arnie, who has a pretty decent heel on his boot himself: Click Here Though in Statham's case, he looks to have closer to half inch than inch shoes: Click Here so Sly's advantage is more with him than it would be with Arnie or Gibson. But when you look at the boots Banderas has: Click Here and then consider he still appears pretty short with the rest of the cast, he's the one guy out of the Expendables and these action stars in general who I wouldn't completely rule out measuring a bit shy of 5'8". I still assume he didn't supplement his heels with extra lifts that time because he's shown he can pull off taller with really thick, big heeled boots.

Does he not look comparably tall on that occasion to when he wore lifts regularly? I think you can also tell by his posture when he has lifts. Maybe it's just me, but if you a lot of those events with a suit and dress shoes, his posture is good, but much more natural without his chest out like that. At this particular time 3 years ago, I'd say barefoot, Sly was 5'8.75", maybe as short as 5'8.5" while Snipes was similarly in the 5'8.5"-5'8.75" range as he's always been, Gibson looking about 5'8.75" or a weak 5'9" there, Arnold still likely 5'11.5", Statham 5'8.5" and Banderas a flat 5'8".
Rising - 174 cm said on 31/Aug/17
@loka: I agree that it's irrelevant, although Jewish in this sense means more ethnic background. Many Jews are secular or even atheists. Of course, Stallone is still predominantly Italian ethnically and was raised Catholic, but no longer according to himself belongs to one specific church, but does believe in Christianity based on his interview with Pat Robertson. But his exact ethnic background does not change his identity. For instance, I heard a while back that De Niro does not even have as much Italian heritage as I do, but thinks of himself as Italian due to his upbringing and love of Italian culture.
Frankie68 said on 31/Aug/17
Illusion or ignorance, people believe what they believe, they want the short guy taller & the tall guy shorter ! Enough with the 5 paragraph essay's already get a job instead ! Sly's married he's not looking for a girlfriend ! Mr t or Clubber Lang has never been depicted as 6'1 in the movie ever & was clearly much shorter than a strong 6 footer like Carl Weathers even in promo pics where Mr T has his big cowboy boots on ,, Carl still clears him easily !
MJKoP said on 31/Aug/17
loka said on 30/Aug/17
Why saying this Bull**** about his religion ? He has always been Christian. Stop this non-sense, please. And it has nothing to do on this page.

We're talking about ethnicity, heritage, and ancestry; try learning the difference before opening your mouth....
loka said on 30/Aug/17
Why saying this Bull**** about his religion ? He has always been Christian. Stop this non-sense, please. And it has nothing to do on this page.
MJKoP said on 29/Aug/17
James said on 28/Aug/17
I didn't even know Stallone was Jewish until yesterday. 5'8" seems right for his peak height.

As Rising said, he's only 25% Jewish, and 25% French....and, of course, 50% Italian(hence his nickname 'The Italian Stallion')
Brad said on 29/Aug/17
His Rocky footwear was custom made with wedge mush like his ramped up Rambo boots. Sly used standards in the training footage. You can see him on his tip toes at 5' 8.5" training with Weathers. Hogan looks like Andre in that shot...just dwarfing anything.
Rising - 174 cm said on 29/Aug/17
@THE REAL ANNONYMOUS: Yeah, they did look bulkier, but he also looked too tall. If you see him on set in costume, he looks taller than Mike Tyson: Click Here yet when the 2 were inducted into the boxing hall of fame, Sly is a good inch shorter: Click Here (At the start of video and 10:59)

Sly seemed more height conscious that whole period. Every appearance on and off screen for about 5 years, he had bulky shoes or boots without exception, his chest out and a "lift walk" you don't really see when he's promoting the Expendables for instance. Obviously, he didn't start wearing lifts in 2003, but in the past, I do think he'd have normal shoes at times, hence the short rumors, but I can't think of one example for about The Contender through the last Rambo where he didn't either have those Hogan sneakers or some kind of elevator boot. If he wore lifts in the ring before Rocky 4, it'd have been for the scene with Hogan, but not Mr. T as I read Sly dropped down to 163 to enhance the "David vs Goliath" imagery in the film. I do think Mr. T was about 2 inches taller than Sly as is, but that type of difference could have easily been gotten rid of in the stare down if Sly wanted, but instead, they seemed to emphasize it. If I'm not mistaken, the Clubber character was supposed to be 6'1" and Rocky Balboa is supposed to be 5'11". Sly himself was only claiming 5'10" in 1982, at least based on an interview he did promoting First Blood.
Frankie68 said on 28/Aug/17
@loka,, good stuff ,,
THE REAL ANNONYMOUS said on 28/Aug/17
Great post Rising
I pretty much agree with everything you say in it. I do believe that in the last movie Rock Balboa that he was wearing lifts in his boxing shoes
The boots look way different than he wore in all his other movies.
Rising - 174 cm said on 28/Aug/17
Sly is supposedly only 1/4" Ukrainian Jewish, iirc and at least 5'8" even today.

@loka: Yeah, Dolph was obviously on a box with Carl despite not specifically saying so: Click Here Truthfully, he didn't look any taller than usual in the glove touch with Sly: Click Here Although maybe he meant slightly before that because I don't see why he'd have lied about it, but he was a minimum 7" taller than Sly as it is.
James said on 28/Aug/17
I didn't even know Stallone was Jewish until yesterday. 5'8" seems right for his peak height.
loka said on 28/Aug/17
To rising and Frankie. Dolph was on a box in front of Carl Weathers too. There are several pics of this scene that shows that he has 20 cm on him where, obvisouly he didn't have in reality. The same with the press conference. Dolph is sitting on something to make him appear taller next to Apollo Creed.
Jim Hopper said on 28/Aug/17
I cannot believe he was near 5-9 prime. Imo 5-8 prime max. Now around 5-7,5.
Rising - 174 cm said on 28/Aug/17
I don't see any proof Sly's boxing shoes are "wedged up", much less to the point of being "disgusting." His remarks during Rocky 4 suggest it wasn't typical for him to box with lifts, but it is possible if he needed to do it for practical reasons with Lundgren, then the one other time he may have(pre-Rocky Balboa) could have been with Hogan -- who was probably slightly taller than Lundgren.

@Pierre: I've considered the possibility of a small loss, but then it's best not to assume too much without seeing their feet in that pic and the pose is probably not the best to determine exact differences. As I've said to you a few weeks ago, there are a few photos where we can see their feet: Click Here Of course, I included the last 2 just to complete the amount of barefoot pics. All 5 photos are from summer 2013, so exactly 4 years ago or within a month. Jennifer was 45 at this point turning 46. Women do lose height on average at a more rapid rate than men, but she's in outstanding shape in her own right so I think we'd be looking at no more than a fraction loss, but it's at least as likely Sly(at 67 in my photos) would have lost a small fraction, but I doubt more than that since he really doesn't look much, if any taller in young photos without lifts like the ones you posted. But if you look at the first of my pics in particular, you see even Sly's legs don't look that short compared to Jennifer's. This is significant because women -- especially models like Jennifer -- have relatively longer legs, while Sly has relatively short legs compared to her torso.

In short, I think there's very little height difference between the two. Sly likely a weak 5'9"(until the last few years) and Jennifer a more solid 5'9". I doubt the difference could be much more if you consider how short someone like Richard Gere(closer to 5'8.5" in recent years, imo) can look with 5'10" Carey Lowell or you see a 5'9" Michael Douglas on his toes with a 5-8ish Sharon Stone who has at most, a half inch footwear advantage: Click Here In general, men in the 5'8"-5'9" range can look short with taller women in the 5'8"-5'10" range, especially when they wear heels. Even a 5'7.5" range woman in heels can make an average height man look short. So I think Sly measures up at least as solidly as you'd expect at his presumed height. Another example would be Statham and Rosie Huntington Whitley.

@Richard: I disagree. I think his height must have been somewhere from 5'8.5" to 5'9" peak and nowadays from 5'8" to 5'8.5". I think we can safely rule out 5'10" or near it. I love Sly, but he's not telling the truth about his height. He's height conscious and I don't blame him as I am too, but he also tries to live up to his image, like many in Hollywood. 5'10" sounds better than 5'8.5"-5'9". This is how a liftless Sly looked with a 5'10" man: Click Here Assuming their eye levels are representative and Gazzarra doesn't have much ground advantage, he looks at least an inch taller in the first pic. In the second, he's wearing those slipper type shoes shown in the 3rd pic so the difference isn't quite so big. Gazzarra admitted later that he was "barely" 5'10" himself, so you could say he may have only been 177 cm. So imo, these are the probabilities I'd go with for peak height(through at least 2012, possibly 2014)

175 cm: 30%
174.5 cm: 30%
175.3 cm: 25%
174 cm: 15%

I don't think he could have been more or less than that range. The reason I don't have 174 a higher probability is he still looks that height to me and as late as 2014, that was the bare minimum I could see him.
Frankie68 said on 27/Aug/17
@loka that pic is too funny !! To be fair Hogan in the movie is suppose to be almost 7ft ,, and Sly's rocky 3 boxing shoes are so wedged up its disgusting !!

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