How tall is Dolph Lundgren

Dolph Lundgren's Height

6ft 2 ½ (189.2 cm)

Peak height was 6ft 4 ¼ (193.7 cm)
Swedish actor, best known for roles in films such as Rocky 4, Showdown in Little Tokyo, Masters of the Universe, Red Scorpion, Dark Angel and The Expendables. In Impact magazine, he revealed early in his career, his towering stature caused him some problems, saying he "Was turned down at my first audition for Rocky 4 for being too tall. I was 6ft 5in and you were supposed to be 6ft 3in maximum. I didn't know what the casting call was for and I just showed up, they asked me how tall I was, I said 6ft 5in and they said "Next!". In the Mid 1980's he also said "I'm about 195cm" and "6ft5 and a half", although more recently on tv4's website, it mentioned: "Du är 198 cm lĺng." - "Nej, 193 tror jag att det ska vara", which asked him if he was 1.98m, to which Dolph said "no, 193cm".
His action oriented film roles over the last 25 years has contributed to at least an inch of height loss by 2016. In 2012 he mentioned his weight: "I'm 6ft 5, weigh about 17 and a half stone [245 pounds] and take size 12 shoes". In this convention photo I had a 1/4 inch more sneaker than him.

How tall is Dolph Lundgren
5ft 8 Rob and Dolph @ LFCC 2016
"I'm 6-foot-6," he says.
And Stallone?
"He's 5-foot-10. I don't know exactly, but around there."
Not quite 5-foot-10?
"That's what you say. I didn't say it, did I? Whatever it is, there's a big difference between us. But still, to make the difference seem even greater, he had me stand on a box sometimes."
-- Bismark Tribune, 1986

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Average Guess (191 Votes)
Peak: 6ft 4.08in (193.2cm)
Current: 6ft 2.57in (189.4cm)
Ian C said on 12/Feb/19
Must have taken steroids in his youth, because he now has thin arms. Google up a recent picture, and his body is completely different from the one he displayed in that Masters of the Universe movie.
Duhon said on 9/Feb/19
Not to scale but a comparison between Florian and MBJ and Dolph and Stallone. Click Here
Rising174cm said on 9/Feb/19
@Pierre: You can't trust Roberts in shots like that where you can't see his feet because he'll go way up on his toes as you can see here: Click Here Rob asked Eric to go back to back so he couldn't do that and Eric had gone up on his toes with Mr. R as well. You can see Eric pulling himself up here and he's still clearly shorter than a slouching Daniels: Click Here Footwear is unknown in the Snipes pic and city pavement is usually uneven so we don't know if Snipes has the ground advantage. For instance, this photo is from that same scene, but Daniels suddenly looks clearly taller than Snipes: Click Here Here's a full pic of Gary back in the 90's with 5'8.5" Jackie Chan: Click Here That's around the time of Gary's pic with Tagawa and Gary definitely looks 5'10" compared to Jackie. You mention the average guess for Snipes, well 13 votes for Daniels have him at an average of 5'10.35". It's possible Gary isn't a full 5'10", but he's taller than a flat 5'9". Here you can see him edge Statham in another full pic even though Statham may be favored if anything: Click Here Even if Gary is only 5'9.5" instead, that still puts Tagawa looking 5'11"+ in their photo and Expendables-era Lundgren looking 6'3"+ with him.
Pierre said on 8/Feb/19
@Rising= Now Gary Daniels next to Eric Roberts ( Click Here )= Click Here = i doubt Gary can touch the 5"10' mark .Here with Wesley Snipes listed 5"9' (and 43 votes are giving him 5"8.74')= Click Here
Rising174cm said on 8/Feb/19
@Canson: Good post as usual. Crews is tough. I think Rob's 6'2.25" listing is good, though Terry has sometimes looked a weak 6'2" so I can see 6'2" flat argued as well. I'm actually sort of surprised at how clear it is that Dolph is still taller since if you look it even appears his knees are bent: Click Here But not too surprised since Dolph had clearly lost height by the time of the Expendables yet appeared more than an inch taller than Terry when the first 2 films were released. 2010: Click Here and 2012 video: Click Here I'd think Dolph at that time still had at least 3 cm to 1.5" on Terry. He's obviously lost more height since then and Terry himself may have lost 1/4" by now, but Terry still edges Ryan Reynolds. I had always believed the 6'2.5" figure for Rapaport since many thought he was 6'3"+ before seeing his 6'2"-6'2.5" claim, but he could have dropped 1/4" himself now in his late 40's and be 6'2.25" or even 6'2" flat, though Dolph obviously had a lot more height on Michael in 1995 than 2018. None of these 3 guys(Lundgren, Crews and Rapaport) have ever had good posture, which can make height loss more probable.

But as I said, my thoughts on Dolph's peak are similar to yours. I think about 6'4" flat at a low is still most probable and perhaps 1/8" to 1/4" above that for a midday measurement, much like Goldblum and perhaps Neeson in their primes. It does make sense that Dolph's 195 cm claim came from an early measurement in the 80's, which matches up well with a 193 cm measurement later in the day. The one thing I'm unclear about is whether Dolph meant to claim 193 as his peak height or if he meant that at the time of the interview, which I believe was in 2005. But the last 10 years or so, Dolph seems to refer to his height at the time of Rocky 4 as being either 6'4" or 6'5". This suggests to me that he may believe he was between those at his peak, especially if he measured both earlier and later in the day, but it also tells us 6'4" is about right. Doesn't rule out a fraction above since you know firsthand that many who are a small fraction above 6'4" won't bother with the fraction, but the 6'5.5" and 6'6" claims seem to be something he only tried in the 80's, perhaps for his image after Rocky 4. He regularly got listed at those figures until the early 90's, but I haven't really seen those listings since so I think that was mostly for his career. I'd guess he probably measured 6'5.5" in footwear at one point in the 80's and then rounded that up to 6'6". I think he admitted height loss as early as 2008 and then definitely on Swedish TV around 2011. Many men won't admit to shrinking as we've seen with Trump and even Clint Eastwood and I haven't seen Lou Ferrigno acknowledge shrinking either. I think Lou was probably 6'4" peak, but I have some doubts and suspect he could have been just 6'3.5" peak. I still give Lou about 6'2.5" current and I think the lowest I'd guess would be 6'2.25".
Rising174cm said on 7/Feb/19
@Pierre: there are certainly photos out there that support Cary being a full 5'11" peak such as this 1996 photo with Gary Daniels, whom Rob lists at 5'10": Click Here and Cary measures up well to Donald Sutherland in this movie still from 2000: Click Here Sutherland probably wasn't 6'3.5" anymore at 64 years old, but as long as he was still 6'2" -- and he definitely was -- then Cary looks at least 5'11" in that still. I tend to trust Rob's judgement on people he's met and the pictures you posted don't bring Cary's peak height into question at all. It's very probable that Cary lost at least half an inch by his 60's as Rob estimates. In fact, the average loss for a 60 year old man in one survey was 2 cm and Cary was 65-66 in the photos you just posted. Luke Kleintank doesn't have a page here, but Joel de la Fuente doesn't look much taller. Around 1 cm, maybe half an inch max in the first photo, 2 cm max in the second photo and then maybe an inch in the last photo. Cary looks to have a footwear advantage, though I'm not sure exactly how much. Even considering footwear(probably a half inch or so advantage or in the 1 to 1.5 cm range), 65 year old Cary doesn't look less than 177-178 cm with 181 cm de la Fuente and he could still be 179 since Cary seems to be developing a bit of old man posture compared to Joel and he can even look taller in this pic: Click Here which also suggests the difference wasn't much at that event.

Btw, speaking of Gary Daniels, here he is with Dolph(clearly past his peak) on the set of the first Expendables: Click Here Click Here Click Here Dolph still looked 6'3.5" with Daniels and Dolph's posture seems pretty loose and casual.
Canson said on 6/Feb/19
@Rising: Dolph May still edge those guys. I have Crews at Max a solid 6’2” but likely is that. Rappaport is someone I couldn’t gauge but will try. I leave the solid 6’4 peak at a low for Dolph because of his 193 claim but even then it could be like 193.3 meaning closer to 6’4 1/8 at a low. He prob would’ve been around 195 out of bed. Of the full listing then he would’ve been probably over. I know Rob uses 5 hours ish out of bed. At that stage for me I would prob be closer to 6’4 3/8 but I use my low since it’s within reach some days even right at 193.8 after 5 hours if I’m on my feet for almost the entire time
Canson said on 6/Feb/19
@Rising: Dolph May still edge those guys. I have Crews at Max a solid 6’2” but likely is that. Rappaport is someone I couldn’t gauge but will try.
Pierre said on 6/Feb/19
@Rising=Cary Tagawa was in rare shoes next to Rob and Rob maybe is a little bit generous with his height barefoot plus he was only 61 years old in the pic next to Rob and in a good shape then had maybe not lose height by the years. Here next to Luke Kleitank listed 6"0' =
Click Here .Click Here In other pics the difference is slimer= Click Here but here are his shoes= Click Here the same here = Click Here or here too = Click Here = Cow boy boots.
Here in his cow boy boots next to Joël de al Fuente listed 5"11.25" he looks shorter than him = Click Here Click Here Click Here =Joël's shoes in the last pic= Click Here =slim heel apparently
Rising174cm said on 5/Feb/19
Here's some stills of Dolph and a barefoot 5'11" Cary Tagawa from Showdown in Little Tokyo(1991): Click Here If you scroll down to the final pic, you'll see Dolph's footwear, which looks pretty normal and flat so definitely around an inch, but you can see Cary is standing perfectly straight while Dolph is bending his knees in every pic and standing loose in general such as the 3rd pic where he's leaning forward. Despite this, Dolph consistently looks about 6" taller and though we have to subtract an inch for footwear, he'd gain some, possibly even all of that back in posture. And some stills of them from Bridge of Dragons(1999): Click Here Both wore boots that looked in the normal 1"-1.25" range. Unfortunately, Cary's hat makes it impossible to gauge the exact difference, but I'd definitely guess over 5" between them considering eye level, Dolph's big head and Cary's military posture compared to Dolph's more casual posture. Seemed a good 6'4" at the time of both these films, imo.

@Canson: 6'2.5" is definitely in my range. I go back and forth on where I think he'd measure in the 6'2.5"-6'3" range so 6'2.75" or 190 cm is probably my best current guess. As for Ferrigno, I'm not ready to go as low as 6'2" flat myself, but if Ali Baba also thought 6'2.5" possible then I can agree with that. Interesting because I'm also wondering where Michael Rapaport and Terry Crews currently are in that same 6'2"-6'2.5" range.

And every page gets som ridiculous comments like these ones from Luke F with a random poster making completely unbelievable claim for the celebrity in question. It was only a matter of time before one of these popped up on Dolph's page.
Perry said on 5/Feb/19
Current height is 6 foot 3
Canson said on 5/Feb/19
He was easily at least 6’2 with Rob and that’s not his peak
Luke F said on 5/Feb/19
He is 6 foot flat on a good day. I have stood in front of him and had a good 2 inches on the guy. I am 6'2 he was noticeably shorter. He was never 6'5 or anything like it
James Brett said on 3/Feb/19
If he indeed took steroids that could have contributed too his height loss.
Canson said on 3/Feb/19
@Rising: agreed. I think 6’2.5 is about where I could see if he stands straighter. I would give Ferrigno 6’2” today based on how he looked with Ali Baba. He’s noticeably shorter today than at his peak and he doesn’t have great posture either. I would say a peak Lou was 6’3” range though maybe even 6’3-6’4 at a push
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Feb/19
@Canson: I think he was as tall as Goldblum peak and could actually seem taller in some films, but that's probably because Dolph's size was sometimes emphasized in his roles unlike Goldblum. I don't think Dolph sometimes looking a weak 6'2" nowadays is surprising at all considering his abysmal posture as you so aptly put it. Neeson and Goldblum can also look in that weak 6'2" range now due to posture. But the 6'2.5" Rob has Dolph listed is the lowest I'd guess him measuring since he can still look 6'3" when he stands better. Also, he's still clearly taller than 6'2.5" listed Michael Rapaport, 6'2.25" listed Terry Crews, had at least an inch on Rob's 6'2" friend Big Dale in their photo and looked taller than 6'3" listed Lou Ferrigno. Of course, we agree Ferrigno isn't 6'3" anymore, but my point is Dolph still looks taller than a lot of guys in that 6'2"-6'2.5" range. Here's a full photo where Dolph looks 6 cm taller than 184 cm listed Michael Jai White: Click Here Click Here but also notice Michael is standing fully straight while Dolph's posture is still loose and looks like he could straighten up more and it also looks like Michael could have a tilt or ground advantage. This premiere video is another example of current Dolph still looking quite tall: Click Here If you notice, he still pretty much towers over solid 5'11"/181 cm listed Ron Perlman despite a high angle which would typically minimize height differences and bad posture since Dolph is doing that stance where he bends his knee, drops height in his hips and leans. I'm fine with the listing, but standing straight for a measurement, I can see Dolph possibly measuring anywhere from 6'2.5"-6'3" today. No more, no less. This is based on being taller than those other 4 guys around 6'2" or 6'2.25"-6'2.5" in some cases and also how Dolph looked with Florian, Momoa and Colbert.
Canson said on 31/Jan/19
@Jdubbz: I could see 6’4 for him at his peak but today he honestly looks barely 6’2 at times. Peak he could be similar to Hasselhoff or Neeson or even Goldblum
Rising - 174 cm said on 29/Jan/19
I don't see any reason reason to doubt 193 cm peak myself: Look how massive he looked walking with 5'9" Van Damme even though Dolph's head is down the entire time: Click Here I'm often skeptical of height loss, but not in Dolph's case. I watched Black Water recently with someone who didn't know about Dolph's injury history and hip replacements and they actually noted Dolph didn't seem to stand well.
Jdubbz said on 26/Jan/19
I doubt he was ever 193-194 peak.
Rising - 174 cm said on 17/Jan/19
Another convention photo of Dolph and Carl Weathers: Click Here Dolph is leaning in slightly, but still looks near 2" taller since Carl struggles to reach Dolph's hairline.
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Jan/19
@Pierre: Yes, but Dolph slouches at times as well in the video. In general, I think they stand pretty similarly there. Both casual rather than military and that's the benefit of a video, we can see more than one moment. As for Rapaport, well the average guess is also 6'2.3" so imo, he's probably in that 6'2.25"-6'2.5" range or 6'2" at the absolute worst. I think Wentworth is too close to compare there, especially with the camera below them.
Pierre said on 11/Jan/19
@Rising= i think Florian lots of times slouch a little bit when he talk to Dolph in the video.In some pics you posted i think he slouch a little bit too,with a S posture and more space between his feet .
I really ask to me if Mickael Rapaport is in 6"2' range = here= Click Here you can see Wentworth is closer to the camera but watch the height of their closest shoulders.I guess Wenworth about 6"0'/strong 6"0' in the pic next to Rob
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Jan/19
Here's another good full pic from that same day at Sirius Studios: Click Here Both look to be standing well and while Florian's feet are still positioned in front of Dolph's, I don't think his body is closer by enough to give him much advantage. The difference here looks around an inch, maybe 3 cm, but Florian's Nikes look at least an inch while Dolph's sneakers look a fraction less. I also thought the difference was closer to an inch and not much above in Creed 2.

Also, here's Dolph at that same recent event Ferrigno was at, except with 5'11" listed Mickey Rourke this time: Click Here We've seen Dolph's dress shoes, so here's what Mickey wore: Click Here Dolph might have a bit of an advantage over Mickey, but Mickey has that giant hat and looks to have a fraction thicker footwear so I'd still imagine at least 4" between them, though there's a good chance Mickey has shrunk 1/4" to 1/2" below 5'11". But Dolph also towered 5'8" Gina Carano by more than 6", possibly 6.5" at that same event: Click Here and that's with Gina wearing heels at that event: Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Jan/19
@Pierre: No way Rapaport is under 6'2" and he doesn't look it with Wentworth since Wentworth is noticeably closer to the camera and still shorter. As for Florian, there's tons of comparisons and Dolph is only 2-3 cm shorter max. Nowhere near 2". That first full pic is barely 3 cm difference(Dolph's head is easily above Florian's hairline) and Florian is standing slightly in front if anything as you can see from their feet. That 2nd pic is only around a 2 cm difference. In fact, the top of Dolph's hair is about as tall as Florian's head, but Dolph has extra hair. The 3rd pic of them didn't work, but the 4th one also shows barely any an inch difference max.

Check out this Mens Health video with wide shots. Dolph has Converse, which are at least 1 cm less than Florian's Nikes yet Florian is still looking around 3 cm or so taller: Click Here When considering footwear, it's hard to see more than an inch difference: Click Here Click Here

Full pic from NY premiere showing barely any difference: Click Here And other pics at the premiere show just about an inch difference give or take so always between 2-3 cm: Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Florian's shoes also look a fraction thicker than Dolph's loafers.

I doubt there's more than an inch between them barefoot, but it could be as much as 3 cm, though no more and possibly as little as 2 cm. So a 6'3.75" Florian would make current Dolph between 6'2.5"-6'3".
Pierre said on 9/Jan/19
@Rising = Mickael Rapaport slouch a little bit here and i doubt he's 6"2' i see him shorter in pics next to Wensworth Miller like here Click Here by considering the postures.
Here i a pic Dolph/Florian Munteanu listed 6"3.75' here Click Here Florian slouch a little bit,there is something like two inches imo. here Click Here a little bit less but Florian has maybe more space between his feet like here Click Here. Another = Click Here .
Here the shoes= Click Here here closer one to the other one = Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Jan/19
@Pierre: That isn't a good pic for judging because aside from Dolph's clearly bent knee(which definitely drops some height), Lou gets a clear camera advantage there(because we know his head isn't 11" long as it looks in that pic) and the low angle from the side is not a good one. This is the best pic because Dolph doesn't have a camera advantage in terms of being closer: Click Here Dolph looks 3 cm taller there. Even if it's tilted a little in Dolph's favor, he'd still be at least half an inch taller. Then Dolph is about half an inch taller here and isn't close enough to get a noticeable advantage since they both look to have 10" heads: Click Here The advantage here probably isn't that much either as their heads are again close in length: Click Here Dolph looks to just edge Lou, but again, Lou is up on one foot and Dolph is still clearly bending his knee. If Lou were as tall/taller than Dolph, you'd expect his chin to be at least as high or higher since Rob has met both and I don't think he estimated Lou's head any longer than Dolph's. Finally, you have this one where Dolph does have a clear advantage, but look how decisively taller he winds up: Click Here These are straighter angles taken in front. To me that's a lot of evidence Dolph is taller than Lou and at worst, I just can't see Dolph any shorter. Maybe 2013 Lou was at least as tall as 2016 Dolph, but I think Dolph was the more solid 6'4" guy at their peaks too.

This isn't a huge surprise because look at how Dolph looked with a man Rob lists at 6'2.5" recently: Click Here Yes, Dolph has better posture there, but probably a fraction thinner sneaker than Rapaport's New Balance and Rapaport is still clearly shorter even with his hat.
Pierre said on 8/Jan/19
@Rising=Yes Rising they are just pictures.I think in this pictures inwhich Lou is looking shorter than Dolph Lou slouch if not he wouldn't look as tall next to Dolph here= Click Here even if his head tilt and even if Dolph bent a little bit his knee (and even if Lou is standing this time a little bit closer to the camera)
Rising - 174 cm said on 7/Jan/19
@Pierre: Yes, Dolph does have a camera advantage in the full pic, but Lou is going up on one foot and like I said, Lou would have to have a bigger head than Dolph to be as tall/taller there so it's questionable he'd be as tall there without the camera disadvantage, much less taller. But that's just 1 pic. Dolph is taller in no less than 4 pics that night and especially that last one Sotiris posted where Dolph looks more than an inch taller and there's no obvious camera advantage. If it were one questionable pic, then I'd say it's less definitive, but it's 4.
Pierre said on 6/Jan/19
@Rising= Rising,i don't know with Lou's chin or his 10 inches head, in the last pic you posted the fact is Lou is standing clearly a little bit more distant to the camera so if one guy has an advantage with the camera here, it's Dolph. Both bent a knee but Lou is more in split (i want to say a biger gap between his heels) then logically Lou lose more heigth than Dolph,plus he tilt more his head than Dolph imo and finally break more his posture than Dolph
Rising - 174 cm said on 5/Jan/19
@Pierre: Come on. Lou is getting a clear advantage in that and Dolph is bending his knee. I removed much of the tilt in the other pics and the last pic Sotiris posted is not tilted much. Maybe slightly, but not even to make up more than an inch difference. I don't know if Dolph is taller in general these days, but Dolph is clearly taller than Lou at that event. Lou is also going up on his backfoot in the one pic. I don't know how much, but it was clear when Sotiris enlarged it. Actually, I may have tilted this one too much against Dolph and he's still taller: Click Here He does actually get an advantage in this one, but he's still taller, otherwise Lou would have to have an even bigger head than Dolph since his chin is again lower, plus he's up on his back foot as Sotiris showed and Dolph appears to be bending his knee again.
Pierre said on 4/Jan/19
@Rising=Lou is looking shorter than Dolph when Lou slouch,this is the case here = Click Here and even if Lou is tiptoeing a little bit on his right foot(i personnally don't see his foot even just a little bit on tiptoe ) his heels are more distant one to the other than Dolph's heels so...And Dolph is standing clearly closer to the camera in this pic.And plus the angle of the pic favor Dolph's height,the lines behind them are clearly inclined Click Here
Click Here = in this pic for me Lou slouch to try to be at maximum around the same height as the shorter guy next to him for the picture
Click Here = in this pic Lou is standing closer to the camera but not a lot and has not a big advantage imo in this angle.He's standing straighter than in the other pics and looks taller than Dolph for me .Dolph bent a little bit his knee here but does not lose height a lot,and i consider Lou tilt a little bit his head on the side of Dolph too.By all this pics and parameters i'm really not convinced Dolph is taller than Lou,i even think Lou is in reality one hair taller than Dolph
alandu94 said on 3/Jan/19
Aleks Paunowic (Allard in dead rising 2 ) stand a solid 6'6" (197)...he taller than Dolf around 3 inchs...
Rising - 174 cm said on 3/Jan/19
@Pierre: Now that time Lou not only has a real camera advantage(otherwise his head would be about 11") and the camera being low makes the person closer appear taller, but you can also see Dolph visibly bending his knee. The other pic is the same except now tilted a lot. The last pic I posted that Sotiris found pretty much seals it because Dolph is not closer to the camera and looks quite clearly taller by every way, even eye and chin. Now let me demonstrate why Dolph doesn't get much advantage in the other one: Click Here Lou's chin is lower and his head looks close in length to Dolph's as you can see. This seems believable as I can see Lou having a big head around 10" from his pics with Rob. Same in this other pic Sotiris posted, which is the best one and also shows Dolph more decisively taller: Click Here I didn't even expect current Dolph to be taller than current Lou, but looking at this event, Dolph seems clearly taller there in no less than 4 pics, which also happen to be the best pics and Sotiris clearly showed Lou going up on his back foot in the group pic and his shoes might be a fraction thicker. Lou may have lost another fraction since Rob last saw him 4 years ago while it doesn't appear Dolph has since Dolph sometimes stands better now than he did 2-3 years ago.
Pierre said on 3/Jan/19
Click Here = When Lou does not slouch ,here he's standing a little bit closer to the camera but both are very close one to the other this time
Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Jan/19
Kind of funny how Dolph was paired with 5'6" Brian Benben in Dark Angel/I Come in Peace. Despite often using the camera to minimize the difference for framing, there were plenty of scenes where you could see a full head difference: Click Here Click Here Click Here For instance, the camera favors Benben in the first 2 shots and there are some scenes where they're walking and it can seem even bigger, but if you consider a 10.25" head for Dolph then Dolph and Brian's listings add up perfectly.
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Jan/19
If Dolph were at a big advantage then his head would look bigger than it does because Dolph has a very large head to begin with(over 10"). The advantage can't be much, if there is one, in the pic of just the two posing and again, you have other pics like this: Click Here and this last one(thanks to Sotiris for finding it) Click Here Current Dolph reaches noticeably higher on Suotamo's head than Driver. Dolph is just below his eyes while Driver is just above his nose. Of course, I don't believe Barkley is only 6'4.5", but that's a different argument.
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jan/19
Dolph is closer to the camera, making him look taller than Lou, but I couldn't help but notice how Lou has one foot off the ground... Click Here

Just for fun, here's Lou w/ Mark Eaton... Click Here
Eaton and 6'4.5" Charles Barkley... Click Here

Eaton and Manute Bol... Click Here
Barkley and Bol... Click Here





Dolph and 6'10" Joonas Suotamo... Click Here
Around 6'2.25" Adam Driver and Suotamo... Click Here , Click Here
Pierre said on 1/Jan/19
@Rising=Dolph is closer to the camera and i think the advantage is for him.If Lou was the same distance to the camera as him with exactly the same posture(head/neck/feet) i wouldn't bet one dollar Dolph would stand taller than Lou.
Myself said on 1/Jan/19
Rob, i do understand that you are a honest person, i appreciate it and the effort you have put on this site throughout all these years. But imho the way you list yourself is in contradiction with your own principle of objectivity; this is excessive humbleness. You must be as fair to yourself as you are to others! When in your eyes there's not enough proof, you often give celebs on this site the highest realistic figure they could hope for...you should either apply this logic to yourself or adjust overly optimistic listings on this site...
At the end of the day one could say that it doesn't matter since this site is not specifically about you but about the height of celebrities, and i would argue with this; you are actually slighly misleading people that are trying to guess celebs you've taken a photo with, since their guesses could be at least 1/8' off, if not the whole half a cm.
IMO it's insane that when there weren't yet "eights" on this site you used to list yourself as a flat 5'8, instead of 5'8.25, considering the fact that probably at your normal lunch time you are at least 173.3...

After all, even your old stadiometer was probably hinting you something, with its 2 mm bonus! It wanted you to stop from downgrading yourself!
Editor Rob
I do go with 173cm as my height, generally on active days I will be in that zone of 173-173.2 by lunch and don't vary much beyond that.

I understand that I could call myself 5ft 8.25 too. I think many of the visitors would be thinking of me as a fraction over 5ft 8, even though I write 5ft 8 underneath the description.
Rising - 174 cm said on 31/Dec/18
@Pierre: I removed the tilt in photoshop just now to check and the difference gets smaller, but Dolph is still taller at the event, just by only 1.5-2 cm without the tilt: Click Here Click Here That's the corrected photos. They may not be perfect, but it's a lot closer than the original. It's not just 1 photo either, it's 3 decent ones where Dolph looks taller. But that's a valid point about Lou and Ali Baba. Ali definitely thought Lou was not over 6'2.5" so maybe he isn't. Either way, Dolph measures up well. Lou probably needs a downgrade now.

@Marc: The average for a 60 year old man was 2 cm in that survey, iirc. But if you then consider Dolph has a much longer spine than average and consider the wear and tear with 2 hips replaced then 3-4 cm loss is not that surprising. Arnie had just one hip replaced and had lost about 4 cm by age 60 according to Rob's listings at the time and was not near as tall as Dolph and generally stood better. In fact, Dolph's posture worsening in his 40's probably didn't help. It seems he first started talking about height loss himself in his late 40's/early 50's. There can also be problems if you're doing anywhere near bodybuilder doses of steroids for years and come off them suddenly or cold turkey without TRT.
Pierre said on 31/Dec/18
@Rising=Dolph is closer to the camera than Lou and the curious angle of the the pic favor Dolph(look at the lines behind them).In 2013 Lou next to 6"6' Ali Baba is looking something like 6"2'(picture at Lou's page 25 jun 2013).Lou's eyes are looking higher than dolph's eyes,i would say Lou is taller finally by this pic
Myself said on 30/Dec/18
@Rob
I think a measurement done with the head tilted upwards the same way you did in that video linked by Rising should be considered valid, as long as you don't tilt more than that.
So Rob you are probably not only 173.3 at your usual low, but you should also add those 2 mm since it's a tolerable measurement (i bet a lot of CH users and people in general tilt their head like that, not everybody gains millimiters though). You are 173.3-5 in reality imo.
I don't understand why you list yourself as 173.0 on this site, considering celebs here are listed at a lunch time height. You reach 173 cm only much later in the day, and that's probably without the slight head tilting that i would consider legit.

Anyway, Happy new year, good luck and keep the good work with this site!
Editor Rob
Trying to keep the head level I feel is fair, I will stick to 173 though.
Marc said on 30/Dec/18
rob is it normal to lose 4 cm at this stage?
Editor Rob
Far from it, you'd expect a small fraction or so for a fit guy.
Rising - 174 cm said on 29/Dec/18
@Martin: Yeah, he does look 6'3" with Big D and around that with Michael Rappaport and Terry Crews, but he might be a bit below that now as Rob lists him. His posture makes it tough to tell exactly, but he does look taller than Lou Ferrigno recently: Click Here
Martin 6'2" said on 28/Dec/18
Very interesting read on Dolph Lundgren here.
Looking at the pics, if Robs' friend is 6'2" then Dolph is certainly 6'3"
Infact most pics I see of him now, 6'3" automatically springs to mind.
Now going back to Rocky IV, we have to bare in mind the possibility of lifts, the box he stood on in certain scenes, and something I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet, his hairstyle, which I just happen to be sporting lol.
His hair against Apollo would've given him am extra 0.5inch, and later against Rocky, we see his hair is a little longer, so a good inch at least on top his head.
Finish that off with clever camera angles, and you've got yourself a 6'6" Ivan Drago.
However I think in real life, he was about 6'4"
So only a loss of one inch.
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Dec/18
@Pierre: Yeah, I get what you mean. Fan is just a general word meaning I enjoy their films, but you mean you like their personality too. I like Arnold too, both on screen and off screen. And don't worry about your English. My grammar is much worse in Italian so I understand about second languages.
Pierre said on 24/Dec/18
@Rising=(i like Arnold too)
Pierre said on 24/Dec/18
@Rising=(With my English humhum...)=I'm not really big fan of x or y celebrity,i don't know exactly what "fan" want to say to me,let's say i like this guys in interviews,movies,pics etc...=i find them charismatic.
Rising - 174 cm said on 22/Dec/18
@Pierre: I like the Blackwater pic with Dolph and Van Damme. I was just going to watch that film soon. Are you also a fan of Dolph, Van Damme and Stallone?
Pierre said on 21/Dec/18
Some pics i like ,just for watching Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 20/Dec/18
@Pierre: I post them in response and obviously if you repeat the same things then I'll post similar rebuttals. The one still I took just as he made the fist he was not even standing that straight, but yes, I compare them when Dolph is standing straight because the question is how tall he is standing straight. I've posted stills of Colbert straight as an arrow too. First it was about head tilting, but since I showed that in itself doesn't make a big difference and included both tilting their head, now you're suggesting Dolph is standing too straight? You're implying Colbert is dropping about 2 cm compared to Dolph and that's just not realistic. If that were so, how much would Dolph be dropping in photos like with Rob or with Roland for that matter? But aside from that, I find this post of yours more reasonable. 6'2" is understandable guess nowadays, though he looks at least 6'2.5" to me when he stands straight. I wouldn't go much below 6'3.75" for Momoa myself, but I agree Roland is probably a full 6'4".
Pierre said on 19/Dec/18
Jason Momoa around 6"3' Roland Kickinger around 6"4' Dolph around 6"2'
Pierre said on 19/Dec/18
@Rising .... Dolph is always standing in an exagerated military posture in the pics you posted about 10 times too....Then your arguments are always the same.
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Dec/18
There's some decent pics from the recent Aquaman premiere in LA. Full pic of Dolph and Jason Momoa: Click Here In this case, Momoa is closer to the camera, but I still don't see more than an inch: Click Here It can look 1.5" or 4 cm at that event only when Momoa's camera advantage is more clear and Dolph is dropping some height in his lower body and by leaning in a bit: Click Here Actually, Dolph appears to be bending his knee in the first pic as well, but I'm going to assume they're standing similarly. I wouldn't have been surprised if the difference had been a bit bigger, but really I think there's either an inch between them nowadays as Patrick Wilson said or 3 cm max. It's very similar to how Dolph looks with Florian

Btw, here's one more Alan Light comparison, this time using 5'11" listed Jerry Seinfeld since Seinfeld is standing in front of Light and standing straight so this is a more than fair comparison: Click Here Seinfeld is a minimum 5.5" shorter in comparison even disregarding posture. Light looks about 5'10" compared to Seinfeld's listed height if he's not a disadvantage, but even if you gave Seinfeld more 5'10.5" peak as some think, Dolph still looks at least 6'4". It's really impossible to argue Dolph looked any less than 6'4" with Light and this comparison to Seinfeld is consistent with how Dolph looked with 5'11" peak(5'10.5" today) Cary Tagawa and 5'11" range Brandon Lee in the 90's.
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Dec/18
@Pierre: Dolph is not standing straight in that still you've posted about 10 times now. That's just factually incorrect. You can clearly see that on the video. It also happens that Stephen is stretched up to his full height at that part and you compare to Dolph dropping noticeable height. In fact, I even took a still a fraction of a second before to prove that point. I don't know what "exaggerated" posture means. Either you're standing straight or you're not. Dolph naturally doesn't stand close to his measured height nowadays like someone like Colbert does. I already told you that I didn't post the part where Dolph looked tallest. I posted one like that once just to prove a point so my comparisons have been more than fair. You destroyed your whole argument by bringing up Obama since Obama doesn't even look 3" taller than Colbert in any of them.
Pierre said on 18/Dec/18
@Rising = You can continue to post all the comparisons with Dolph isn a military posture and in an exagerate angle of the head and i will never agree with you.In my comparison Dolph is perfectly straight and around the same posture as Stephen in your comparison he's standing in an exagerate posture with the head in an exagerate angle.In the other pics you posted he just start to abandon his exagerate posture,then i can not see a good comparison here too.
Rising - 174 cm said on 17/Dec/18
@Pierre: That's ridiculous, they are NOT in the same posture. Anyone who watches the video can clearly see this. Did you completely ignore Rob's video? You're still cherrypicking a moment when Dolph visibly dropped height and Colbert is standing perfectly and reposting that one still?

This is the actual difference when both stand tall: Click Here Click Here Click Here Notice Colbert is tilting his head up too in the first and 3rd photos yet he's still 4"-4.5" shorter and this is one taken a fraction of a second before your cherrypicked one except Dolph hasn't dropped enough height yet for your liking: Click Here Notice Colbert is standing straighter, tilting his head up more and yet he's still about 4" shorter.

And no, Obama is nowhere near as tall with Colbert as Dolph: Click Here Click Here Click Here In fact, Obama is about 5 cm shorter next to Colbert or a bare minimum 4 cm.

@Rob: Yeah, Dolph's head will probably lead to a slightly different result, but still a negligible amount when we're talking millimeters. Btw, those videos are really great for answering various questions about height.
Pierre said on 16/Dec/18
Here = Click Here = Dolph and Stephen = about the same posture=Stephen's eyes are the same height as Dolph's mouth
Here = Click Here Click Here = Barack and Stephen = about the same the same posture= Stephen's eyes are the same height as Barack's mouth.
Of course if Barack's head was looking the clouds like Dolph's head here Click Here = Stephen's eyes would be the same height as Barack's chin too....
Pierre said on 16/Dec/18
@Rising=...If my memory is good,we talk about the angle of Dolph's head because = when Dolph is not in this posture with the head looking the clouds,then we can make good comparisons with Barack= in a classic angle of head the fact is Dolph's mouth is around the same height as Stephen's eyes and then he looks around the same height as barack next to Stephen...as i wrote in my comment 28 nov Dolph is probably a little bit taller because longer head,for the rest Dolph's long hair make the difference
Peter 179cm said on 15/Dec/18
From the added height chart,it looks like he'd hit 6'2 flat if stood straight,accounting for footwear.I think a fraction over 6'2 is the fairest guess so a weak 189cm.He has a big head afterall,so it makes this all the more frustrating..
Rising - 174 cm said on 14/Dec/18
So, "looking at the clouds" adds a whopping 2 millimeters to your height: Click Here That's if you have a 9.5" head like Rob. Maybe it's slightly more if you have a 10"+ head, but we're talking millimeters here.
Editor Rob
It could depend on the curvature of your skull, but mostly it won't have that much effect...around a couple of mm from when I last tested it.
Pierre said on 12/Dec/18
@Rising = lol...
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Dec/18
@Pierre: Evidently you need them because you missed the point again. I posted that to show Jon was still several inches taller even while at a clear disadvantage, there's a big difference between that and posting with the other guy at a disadvantage without mentioning that as an attempt to prove he's shorter. That's just common sense and posters usually don't have trouble with this distinction. There's a better pic on shutterstock I'm having a trouble linking to where Jon is still at a disadvantage, but is looking like he's going to be 4"+ taller than Stacy. But we can forget about Stacy if you like because this isn't leading us anywhere and is just going to get this way off topic of Dolph.
Pierre said on 10/Dec/18
@Rising you said on 09/Dec/18 =I don't post photos with one person standing a foot closer to the camera to the other. And the photo you posted on 06/dec/18 Stacy keach/Jon Voight?Thank you Rising to try to give me lessons again and again but...
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Dec/18
@Pierre: There's not one thing in that post that's true. I was arguing Dolph was more like 6'4" flat at least as far back as 2011 and have said many times he was never 6'5". That's not the first time you've made something up and misquoted me either. I don't post photos with one person standing a foot closer to the camera than the other. I guess Colbert was also "looking at the clouds" in the first still I posted. Note I say first, because I posted 4 or 5 different ones and the entire video rather than cherrypicking one to mislead people. LOL so now an 80 year old Jon Voight wears elevator shoes? Of course there's no other reason height can vary in photos. I thought being conservative and giving Voight at least his current listing 10 years ago would avoid this, not wind up getting so far off topic with Keach, Travolta, Cage etc., none of whom have even been pictured with Dolph.
P?erre said on 9/Dec/18
@Rising lol my pics are not more dodgy than your pics with Dolph in perfect military posture with his head looking the clouds lol!!!!Dolph is 6"5' if you want,this is not a problem for me
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Dec/18
@Pierre: What was the point of posting all those dodgy photos? First of all, I posted Voight with BOTH Cage and Travolta so unless you're arguing BOTH are nowhere near 6' then Voight was still at least 6'1.5" a decade ago. And Sizemore is WAY closer to the camera in that premiere photo. That photo of Stacy Keach is current, not 10 years ago since Caitlin Jenner was still Bruce 10 years ago. We know how tall Stacy Heach was a decade ago because Rob met and took a photo with him. The man is in his late 70's now so it's not surprising he's shrunk a lot more. If you had such good evidence then you could show Rob and he'd downgrade them at least somewhat. I posted more than enough evidence of Voight the same year or around the same time with Goldblum, Cage, Travolta, Keach and Haysbert to reasonably establish his height as 6'1.5" minimum around 2008. And Dolph and Roland are NOT in the same posture. This is unbelievable considering your dismissal of Dolph with Colbert. And 2", maybe 2.25" tops is NOT towering. If Dolph straightened his back and raised his head, it'd be less than 2" and there's a good chance Dolph's legs aren't straight. You reposting a photo over and over and over is unnecessary. By your logic about head-tilting, Dolph is losing a good inch or more with his head down compared to Roland's head up, but I see that only applies when you have to explain away Dolph looking 6'2.5"+. Btw, I don't believe that about head-tilting, but that was what you were implying before.

@Rampage: They did make Dolph look even bigger in Rocky 4 since Dolph admitted wearing lifts for some seasons and even standing on a box, which I figured had to be the case otherwise Dolph would be 6'7" in a shot like this! Click Here In reality, he was a legit 6'4" and a shredded 240-245 while filming. As Stallone said, Dolph/Drago was what he imagined men looking like 500 years from now so once Dolph got the role, he decided to emphasize Dolph's size. Dolph still looks massive in Masters of the Universe, Red Scorpion, Showdown in Little Tokyo, Cover Up, The Punisher etc., but at least closer to his real height than Rocky 4.
Pierre said on 8/Dec/18
Click Here Click Here 2014 John Voight Mark Walberg(5"8' list 158 votes are giving 5"7.42')
Click Here Jon Voight Dean Cain 2015 =i think it is not only short men who wear elevator shoes sometimes :)
Pierre said on 7/Dec/18
@Rising =(and Nicolas Cage / John Travolta= Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here )
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 7/Dec/18
Not saying height loss is a positive thing because it’s not and Dolph is still a very big man who I wouldnt dare mess with

But in Creed 2 Drago is meant to be a broken man and a shell of former himself. Dolph’s somewhat diminished stature naturally fits into the aesthetic of who Drago is in 2018 as opposed to 1986. Now I don’t know if maybe they did do some camera work in Rocky IV to make him even bigger but in the new movie he really is a far cry from that
Pierre said on 7/Dec/18
The fact is Dolph and Roland are standing in around the same posture and the top of the head of Roland tower the top of the head of Dolph Click Here (Dolph's straight hairs don't count of course) .Stacy Keach next to 5"10.5' Jay Leno in 2009,so one year before the pic you posted with Jon Voight = Click Here Click Here .Nicolas cage next to 5"10.25' Tom Sizemore(picture with Rob) = Click Here Click Here Click Here .
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Dec/18
@Pierre: Nonsense. First of all, Rob said Tom still looked about 5'10" when they took the photo. He lists him 5'9.5" because he thinks he's lost more height since. Tom is standing clearly in front of Jon there giving him an advantage. Rob doesn't base his listings on one photo. Here's Jon in 2010(two years after the photo with Dolph) with Stacy Keach(whom Rob estimated at 5'10.5" in 2007) and even with Stacy much closer to the camera and wearing a hat, Jon is still much taller: Click Here Here's Jon in 2007 looking at least 1.5" taller than 6'0" Nicolas Cage: Click Here and at least 2" taller than 6'0" John Travolta in 2006: Click Here and here's Jon again in 2010 standing further from the camera than 6'4"-6'4.5" Dennis Haysbert: Click Here Jon only looks 3" shorter even with the camera disadvantage. 6'1.5" is the absolute minimum for Jon in 2008.
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Dec/18
@Pierre: I never said Dolph was sitting in a chair. If you're being genuine, that must be a misunderstanding due to language. My comment about not seeing enough of their legs was about whether Dolph was bending his knees or dropping height in his hips. Dolph does that a lot, like this photo: Click Here If we only saw from the waist up, we wouldn't know he was bending his knees. It is kind of funny to me that you make military posture out to be a bad thing for comparisons. It's a lot better than choosing comparisons where he slouches because the question is how tall Dolph could measure. And Roland is standing pretty damn straight with his chest out and head up and his body being positioned somewhat sideways might put him closer to the camera. It's also funny how you make such a big deal out of Dolph tilting his head up(even though I included comparisons where Colbert also tilted his head up and one where Dolph wasn't tilting his head) yet you've reposted four or five times a picture where Dolph's head is down and Roland's is up. And to make matters worse, you even compare eye level in that scenario. You can only compare the distance between their heads if one man is raising their eye level and the other is lowering theirs.
Pierre said on 6/Dec/18
Click Here John Voight and Tom Skerritt in 2010 (Tom is listed 5"9.5' here in 2012 picture with Rob Click Here )=then never 6"1.5' or even 6"0.5' for Jon here.
Rising - 174 cm said on 5/Dec/18
Dolph leaning noticeably in 2008 with Jon Voight: Click Here Dolph is still a couple of inches taller. Voight is listed 6'2.5" peak and 6'1.5" currently, but many would say he was still around 6'2" a decade ago. Here's Voight that same year with Jeff Goldblum back when Goldblum was still 6'4": Click Here and also that same year with 6'0" listed Edward Norton: Click Here Certainly, Voight was not less than the 6'1.5" figure in 2008. Dolph again in 2008 with 6'5.75" Götz Otto might be of some interest: Click Here Click Here Unfortunately both men are slouching, but nothing can be done about that. Dolph had already lost height by 2008, but he's probably lost most of his height since then. He could still look quite tall in 2008 despite worsening posture.
Pierre said on 5/Dec/18
@Rising= then you have to reread my comments,and later you go explain to me Dolph was sitting in a chair next to the 6"4' guy lol Click Here ...He's not standing in a military posture here(not like your comparisons Dolph next to Stephen Colbert...)but the 6"4' guy is not standing in a militar posture lol.
Rising - 174 cm said on 4/Dec/18
@Pierre: That's completely ridiculous. You cherrypicking a split second where Dolph visibly dropped height is not "classic posture" and even in that cherrypicked example, Dolph was STILL 2-3 cm taller with Colbert. Obama almost always has very good posture, unlike Dolph. But when Dolph actually stood straight -- which is his actual height -- he was consistently 4-5 cm taller with Colbert than Obama. And Dolph is not "towered" by Roland. He's about 2" shorter, but he's clearly not standing as straight. You even admitted at one point that Dolph was dropping more height. The problem is, we don't know just how much height because we can't see enough of their legs. And as long as we're reposting things, here's Dolph with 6'2.5" listed Michael Rapaport a few weeks ago: Click Here and by your standards, Dolph "towered" Michael back in 1995: Click Here He also "towered" 6'2.5" listed Brion James in Red Scorpion as I showed in the clip, 6'2" listed Jon Cypher in Masters of the Universe and 6'3" listed Louis Gossett Jr.
Pierre said on 4/Dec/18
Curiously Dolph in classic posture looks around the same range height as 6"1' Barack in classic posture and a 6"4' guy tower Dolph Click Here .
Rising - 174 cm said on 3/Dec/18
@Pierre: You reposting a still from a split second where Dolph visibly drops height does not change the fact Dolph had a good 4", sometimes even 4.5" on Colbert for most of the video. viper saw the same thing and he doesn't even agree with me on Dolph in general. Here's another still, I literally took it just before the one you posted, you can see Dolph has already made the fist and is about to touch his hands, but hasn't dropped much height yet: Click Here He's still around 4" taller there. I could only imagine what you'd have said if I used an image of Colbert tilting his head with his hands in his pockets. Dolph is well over an inch taller than Obama compared to Colbert. Here's another still of Colbert straight as an arrow: Click Here The only difference is Dolph raising his head, but that doesn't add an inch. I know this because Rob has measured himself while tilting his head up or down and the difference a few millimeters or a small fraction. Besides, the original still I used had Colbert tilting his head up as well, but I'll use the new one and that other photo(which favors Obama) and Dolph still comes out 4 cm taller compared to Colbert: Click Here
Pierre said on 28/Nov/18
Click Here = Here is a picture Stephen Colbert with Dolph when both are standing in around the same posture(not this curious comparisons with Dolph in a perfect military posture with the head looking a lot upward as he wanted to see a marvellous blue sky or a marvellous bird in the sky like here too Click Here ).
Click Here = here is Barack Obama and Stephen in around the same posture or here too = Click Here =Dolph is looking around the same height as Barack,probably Dolph something like around alf an inch or 3/4 inch taller because probably a stronger head.For the rest Dolph's very long hairs make the difference(Barack's hairs are something like 3 millimeters...)
Rising - 174 cm said on 28/Nov/18
Ok, now I used a photo where Obama actually does have a camera advantage over Colbert making this comparison slanted against Dolph if anything and Dolph is still almost 2" taller than Obama: Click Here Just to be completely clear about what I'm doing is I scale the references up or down until they match and I scale the rest of the photo along with them keeping the difference between each subject and the reference unchanged in their respective photo and then line the references(Colbert in this case) up to match. If one subject is closer to the camera in the original photo then that will remain as much of a problem in the comparison as in the original, but in general it's a useful visual guide for showing how two measured up to the same reference. It's easier when both are right in front of your eyes then posting one after the other.
Rising - 174 cm said on 27/Nov/18
@Jordan: Which comparison? The Alan Light one to Danson and Letterman? Yes as I said before, as big as Dolph's head really is, I think he is getting an advantage over Danson and Letterman, but counting Letterman's hat should make up most of that and you can always compare their eye levels, which still show Dolph a good 6'4" in comparison. I can't scale them up/down further without knowing how big Letterman and Danson's heads are, but I do know Vegas once did a comparison between Dolph and Letterman compared to Light and had Dolph about 4" taller in those photos. Obviously, Dolph was not actually 4" taller than Letterman, but Vegas and JT do most of those type of comparisons and they got a similar result in that case. But I can use the Rob Lowe pic to compare: Click Here As you can see, Dolph still looks about 6'4" and Dolph has a bit of a slouch while Lowe does not. In this case, this would fit with Lowe having a 9.5" head and his head is bigger than Light's in the photo so if anything he'd have the advantage. There's a margin of error with the possibility Lowe is not a full 5'10" balancing out Dolph's slouch. The reason I didn't post that comparison to begin with is we have actual photos of Dolph looking 6'4"+ with average height guys(Charlie Sheen) or others below 6'(Brandon Lee) so I didn't see much point. If you mean the Obama one then no as I already explained. Their head size actually looks slightly larger than it probably should compared to Dolph, but I can do another one soon.
Jordan87 said on 26/Nov/18
@ Rising,

The Scale of the pictures are off. Lundgren's is them closer to the camera. You need to scale it down than do a proper Comparison.
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Nov/18
@Canson: I would put Frank around 6'4", maybe even a fraction under or possibly 1-2 mm over. This is because he looks anywhere from 1-2 cm shorter than 6'4.5" measured Tim Hardaway: Click Here Click Here You can also compare to Porzingis in the second photo. Frank is a full head smaller while Hardaway is slightly less. In fact, Hardaway's measurement and Porzingis' measurement lineup almost perfectly there, but not here where Hardaway himself is more than a head shorter! Click Here Granted, Hardaway's 6'4.5" matches up pretty much perfectly with Kevin Knox at 6'7.75", but both can look about an inch shorter than their measurements there compared to Porzingis at 7'1.25" and Knox also can in this pic: Click Here But that's not so uncommon as I've seen Shaq, Kareem, Gasol and other big men make guards and forwards look an inch or two shorter than they are. But in short, I wouldn't go as high as 194 for Frank. Maybe 193. 193.5 would be the highest and 192.5 about the lowest I'd go. Frank was claiming he thought he grew and others picked up on that, but it sure doesn't look like he did compared to Porzingis and Hardaway.
Canson said on 23/Nov/18
@Rising; agreed. And I actually thought at first that he was measured 7’1.75 (not sure where I got it from). Chances are he may not have been at the combine itself either and could have measured later like Frank Ntilikina did. Btw how tall do you think he is? I would put Frank at around 194 perhaps
Rising - 174 cm said on 23/Nov/18
@Duhon: Good pic. Honestly, Florian looks taller than I'd expect. If Jordan is 5'10.5" as listed then he looks about 6'4" there. Not saying he is or isn't, but I didn't expect that big of a difference.

@Pierre: With all due respect, I'm not the one inventing things about tip-toeing which anyone with eyes can see is not the case. The pic I used for a comparison shows BOTH men standing straight and tilting their head up a bit. If Dolph did it slightly more or forced his posture more then we're literally talking something like 1/4" difference. And the angle I used was taken from above them or level, not low so once again, I have no idea what you're talking about. It looks like 4"+ for most of the video. You cherrypicking a split second when Dolph visibly drops his posture(and is still over 3" taller) just proves this point. It's honestly absurd to suggest they have the "same" posture for that split second, especially since Stephen didn't do the "crush" thing. That also suggests Stephen was dropping over an inch in posture for the entire rest of the staredown, which is frankly laughable. If that were the case, then I can only imagine how many inches Dolph regularly drops in posture. I don't want to get into speculation about motives, but if anything it seems you made up your mind about Dolph's height based on how he looked slouching and now that he finally stood tall, you seem unwilling to reconsider. And it's not just with Colbert, Dolph looked clearly taller than 6'2.5" listed Michael Rapaport recently as well. And it's laughable to suggest I of all posters choose bad angles. I doubt too many other posters check to see if the subjects' heads are in proportion. Again, you can see Stephen looking up to Dolph himself and tilting his head up from his chin in the comparison photo I used. Dolph has his head up there and is standing straight, but he's not craning his neck unusually there himself.
Duhon said on 22/Nov/18
Florian next to Michael B Jordan Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 22/Nov/18
Dolph/Obama comparison photo with Colbert: Click Here Dolph comes out about 2" taller than Obama. That Obama photo was easiest to lineup since it was also taken from the side, but it'd make a minimal difference since the height difference between Obama and Colbert doesn't vary much. I may use several of the others just to prove that point, but it can take up to 10 minutes to make a decent comparison photo so I'm in no rush to do so. I'm just going to ignore that ironic comment about me picking photos with bad angles @Juby: Agreed. Here's how peak Dolph measured up to the same man as 6'2.5" Ted Danson and 6'1.5" Letterman: Click Here I counted Letterman's hat and may have even counted a bit of Danson's hair(toupee) as his head so if you deduct about 1/2" for Letterman's hat then he's about 4.5" shorter than Dolph and Danson is coming out about 2.5" shorter, but he may be at a bit of a camera disadvantage and some might argue Danson and Letterman are 1/2" shorter than listed. Granted, Dolph could give a 6'4" flat impression at times in Pentathlon and I think that or Rob's listing is fine for his peak, but he often looked 6'4.5"-6'5" in films from the late 80's/early 90's, particularly when he wore boots. Here's some good footage of Dolph in 2007 with Oleg Taktarov(whom Rob lists 6'0"): Click Here Dolph looks a good 4" taller, though I have a hard time believing Dolph hadn't lost anything 1 month before his 50th birthday so it's possible Oleg was more 181 cm and Dolph 192 by then.

@Canson: I wouldn't go below his measurement myself seeing him with Melo in the full media day photos. Melo struggles to reach his mouth. He's actually taller than I thought at a legit 7'1" even as a Knick fan. As of now, I don't believe either measured in the morning, but I can't say how close to his low he was because of his height. Sort of like our Shaq conversation.
Pierre said on 22/Nov/18
@Rising =Of course they are standing in around the same posture in the pics i posted !Me too i can say lol= you take examples with Dolph who is looking the sky with his head (lol)or the camera very low somewhere around the same height as the ground(lol) in an incredible angle inwhich we can see more the bum of Dolph than his head (lol)(pics on 16 Nov etc)....Dolph is probably shorter than you believe Rising
Rising - 174 cm said on 20/Nov/18
@Pierre: No, they're not in the same posture there because Dolph specifically loosened his posture to make the fist and do the "crush" thing for a split second. Stephen did not do that motion, therefore they can't be in the same posture. lol when you get measured, you don't relax your back and make a fist. And if anything, I put the line too low in the second pic. With that said, Dolph is STILL taller as he's more than 3" taller even with loose posture, while Obama never was, even though Obama had a camera advantage at times. The angle for that crush part is basically the same as the rest. Dolph has at least 4" on Stephen for almost the entire staredown. It seems you're waiting for the one split second where Dolph looks shortest in the video. I didn't post the part where he looked tallest, that would be more like this: Click Here Actually, if anything, Stephen has the camera advantage there too. Btw, raising your eye level doesn't change your measured height much at all. Here Stephen is raising his eye level more and doesn't look any taller, it's still at least 4": Click Here
Juby said on 20/Nov/18
With Rob, Dolph is not standing full straight, and Rob has thicker footwear. I think Dolph is still easily over 6'2 and in his peak he was 6'4" at least.

Good guesses, Rob.
Rising - 174 cm said on 19/Nov/18
Interestingly, Dolph repeated that he was on a box in a couple of scenes for Rocky 4, but also added that he wore lifts for some scenes: Click Here

'Rocky IV is peak Rocky in terms of the character's training and physicality, and Stallone urged Lundgren to be as imposing as possible when it came Rocky's turn to face Drago.

"He wasn't against me getting bigger and stronger, and I would wear lifts in some of the scenes to make me even taller. I also stood on a box for a couple of shots, depending on where the camera was," says Lundgren.'

I always wondered if they had Dolph in lifts. Funny cause Sly wore lifts in the ring too for that film. Carl Weathers was probably the one who didn't lol. Sort of reminds me of the Godfather anecdote about Brando wearing lifts after he found out Pacino and Caan were.
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
@Duhon: his 7’3” claim is just his listed height. Shoes rounded up

@Rising: I don’t know why but i always thought he was 7’1.75 at the combine. With that likely being a morning height, he may only be more like 7’0.75.

@Viper: I’d say give or take. I don’t think Melo is under 6’6” but KP may dip under 7’1” unless he grew or measured later in the day than the others did
Pierre said on 18/Nov/18
@Rising=here they are in about the same posture and the angle of the camera is more neutral= Click Here difference=not exactly a complete forehead .here at 1:05 when Dolph forces his posture by looking upward there is a complete forehead but his head looks a lot upward so...The line you make in the pic Stephen/Barack is too high Stephen has longer hairs than in the pic next next to Dolph.
Here= Click Here they are in around the same posture Stephen only tilt his head a little bit on his right side but we can imagine he does not lose really height.For me there is not a big difference.( Barack has very short hairs too...)
Pierre said on 18/Nov/18
@Rising=but you always take a pic inwhich the angle is very bad for comparisons,you don't take in consideration all my comparisons then i can not agree with you
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Nov/18
This Men's Health video with Florian is pretty good for comparing: Click Here Looks about an inch shorter overall to me in the video, maybe 3 cm. Sometimes it can look as little as 2 cm max and as much as 3.5-4 cm in the video, but Dolph's Converse give at least 1 cm less than Florian's Nikes. My guess from what I've seen so far is that Dolph barefoot would be around 2 cm shorter than Florian. Possibly an inch, but I'm not so sure after that video. I have no doubt peak Dolph was taller than Florian. It's weird, Dolph's posture seems improved in general lately, but then he reverts back to what Canson so aptly called his abysmal posture such as here with Michael B. Jordan: Click Here lol leaning noticeably AND bending his knee while possibly dropping height in his hips too. He still has a few inches on Jordan, who is listed the same as Colbert. It's not hard for me to imagine Dolph looking as tall as he did with Colbert.
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Nov/18
@Canson: I doubt it's a shoe height because shoe measurements didn't start until '99 or 2000. Here's Zo in 2000 with Bill Russell: Click Here Russell looked at least 6'9" for years after that. Mourning clearly taller than 6'8.75" pre-draft measured Kenyon Martin in a full pic: Click Here Leaning and at a camera disadvantage with a then roughly 6'1" Trump in 2007: Click Here 6'8" flat is just too low. He can look shorter than 6'9.5" sometimes, but at worst, 6'9.5" would be an early measurement, imo.

@viper: Agreed on both.
Canson said on 17/Nov/18
mourning with 5’11 Tim Hardaway

Click Here

Mourning may be 6’8 and a little change (6’8-6’8.5 range) but not 6’9.5
Canson said on 17/Nov/18
@Rising: I have to agree with Sotiris. Mourning is said to only be 6’8”. That 6’9.5 looks like a shoe height. Larry Johnson was only 6’5” and change (could be as low as maybe 196ish) and he wasn’t 4” shorter than mourning
Duhon said on 17/Nov/18
As for Porzingis stating he's 7'3" vs 7'1", well there are some 6' guys who are convinced they are really 6'2", so I can see it being easy to assume you're a couple inches taller than reality when you do really tower over 99.999% of the population around you.
Rising - 174 cm said on 17/Nov/18
@Pierre: I used a pic you posted to compare them and come on, Dolph is NOT tip-toeing. I posted that full shot to eliminate any doubt of that. Here's one more to prove that again: Click Here Dolph is raising his eye level a bit in the still I posted, but so is Stephen to some degree. And I'm not comparing them based on where Stephen reaches on Dolph(otherwise he'd be 5" shorter in the still I posted rather than 4"-4.5" range which is what I get when I compare the distance between their heads relative to Dolph's head. The camera was a good height and their heads look in proportion since Colbert's head would be near 9.5" compared to a 10.25" head for Dolph. Btw, Rob estimated Obama's head in the normal 9.25"-9.5" range so there's zero chance Obama is as tall with Stephen as Dolph is.

But just to cover everything, here's the other three photos you posted: Click Here Obama doesn't have a full 3" on Stephen in any of them and is raising his eye level himself in the last one, which is the only one I'm fairly certain Obama doesn't have a camera advantage himself in while Obama almost certainly has one in the second photo. Obama looks to have roughly 2.5" on Stephen in these 3 photos, sometimes a bit more and sometimes a bit less, but it's definitely more than 2" and less than 3".
viper said on 17/Nov/18
Melo and Porzingus look their measured heights of 6-6 and 7-1
viper said on 17/Nov/18
At times it looks more 4.5 inches with Colbert
ND.IV said on 17/Nov/18
Beside Rob he looks a solid 6"1,5. His peak was perhaps between 6"3 - 6"4
Rising - 174 cm said on 16/Nov/18
Meant Afflalo 3.5" shorter than Melo NOT 1.5". That's what happens when you type too fast and don't proof read lol.
Rising - 174 cm said on 16/Nov/18
Not to get this too off track, but these are better photos of Porzingis and Melo: Click Here Click Here That's also 6'5" listed Arron Afflalo coming up to Porzingis' neck. Afflalo looks about 1.5" shorter than Melo for reference.
Pierre said on 16/Nov/18
@Rising=you have to watch all the pictures Stephen/Barack and all the video Stephen/Dolph to make a good comparison.The pics you talk about(with your line) are= Barack more distant to the camera than Stephen Colbert,or Dolph who forces his posture(the head looking a lot upward and p a little bit on tiptoe) next to Stephen and/or in this pics the angle of the camera isn't neutral.When you take all the pictures /all the good moments in the video(same posture/neutral angle of the camera)the difference between Barack/Dolph seems to me not very important.
Rising - 174 cm said on 16/Nov/18
@Pierre: Obama is noticeably(more than an inch, sometimes at least 2") shorter next to Colbert than Dolph: Click Here Stephen's posture is fine through most of the video, including here: Click Here His back is straight. You can see their entire bodies in this shot of the staredown showing Stephen isn't bending his knee either: Click Here Obama's head and eye level are much smaller than Dolph's so Colbert would have to reach higher on Dolph's head to be as close to his height, but instead he doesn't even reach as high. And Colbert's mouth is never as high as Dolph's. Even when Dolph loosens his posture at that 2:43-2:44 mark, their mouths are not even close to the same high. Colbert's mouth is still below Dolph's chin. Now why we should wait for Dolph to slouch rather than take advantage of Dolph finally standing straight is beyond me.

@Sotiris: That pic with Melo is no comparison to Dolph because Porzingis is slouching in the background, the ground is unknown and it's taken from a more level angle rather than the low angle used with Dolph. Mourning isn't 6'8" either. He was supposed to have been measured 6'9.5" in 1992. Btw, Dolph post-hip replacements still looking a couple of inches taller than 6'0.5"-6'1" Carl Weathers even while visibly dropping height in his hips: Click Here (I previously didn't include that one among the other 3 photos I posted of the two from 2017)
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Nov/18
Another fun pic of Dolph w/ Porzingis... Click Here


Porzingis w/ 6'6.25" Carmelo Anthony for comparison... Click Here

Porzingis and Walt Frazier... Click Here

6'8" Alonzo Mourning w/ Walt Frazier... Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 15/Nov/18
@Sotiris: Good post and as for Porzingis, remember Ralph Sampson himself claimed to be the 7'4" he was listed at, which you and I know is absurd. It is pretty funny to see guys over 7 feet still inflating their height. Here's the video with Colbert: Click Here Dolph's a good 4" taller most of the video: Click Here
Pierre said on 15/Nov/18
Click Here =make a pause at 1:14 when they are standing in the same posture.And watch others moments in the video around 2:43 2:44=Stephen's mouse is always around the same height as Dolph's mouse.Now Stephen next to Barack Obama(listed 6"1') = Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 14/Nov/18
@viper I find it very weird that Porzingis felt like he had to tell Ivan Drago his fake 7'3" NBA-listed height.

Here's Dolph from yesterday w/ Stephen Colbert (who Rob has at 5'10.5")... Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 14/Nov/18
I'm not surprised, that just shows the msm is clueless about height among many other things. They don't stop to question at all what either man claims. Although Dolph with [surprisingly] better posture, but thinner sneakers is still noticeably taller than Michael Rapaport yesterday: Click Here and yesterday was the best comparison to Florian so far: Click Here It can look anywhere from 2 cm to 3 cm range, imo. Scroll down to the 3rd pic and you can see their sneakers. I don't know if Florian's Nikes add more than Dolph's sneakers. I actually wasn't 100% sure Dolph would still look clearly taller than Rapaport. His posture does seem much better than it has in years in those pics so maybe the double hip replacement is helping him stand better.
viper said on 13/Nov/18
Dolph with 7-1 Kristaps Porzingus. Click Here

Lol at TMZ calling him 6-5.
Rising - 174 cm said on 13/Nov/18
Dolph's current height is certainly debatable, but to completely separate his peak, compare how Dolph looks with Alan Light to how 6'2.5" Ted Danson and 6'1.5" listed David Letterman looked: Click Here Click Here Click Here If I were patient and tech-savvy, I'd do one of those comparison photos JT and a few others have done, but I see Dolph at least 6.5" taller than Light while Danson is a good 4" taller, but Letterman looks just 2.5" taller, maybe just 2" without the hat. Light tends to stand well while the other 3 are all slouching or leaning to some extent, but not too bad. I think the comparison is interesting without going into Light's own height much, but Light did look maybe half an inch shorter than 5'10" Rob Lowe, but he was clearly taller than 5'9" Michael Jackson and he had at least 3" on 5'7.75" listed Tim Curry and close to 3" or a bit less on 5'7.5" listed Mike Myers. You can find any of these comparisons easily with a Google search. So imo, Light would be a 5'10.5" shoe guy at worst and 5'9.5" without or maybe 5'10" without shoes, but morning. I don't know for a fact Light inflated his height since he could look 5'10.5" in some of his photos or even a bit taller with Letterman and Curry, but he could look 5'9.5" with Lowe and because certainty is so important on a site like this, I think Light's claim was greeted with more skepticism than it otherwise would have. But since we have less to go by for peak Dolph, I figured comparing to Danson and Letterman would be of some interest.
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Nov/18
@Pierre: Yeah, that was my first thought, but we'll get a better idea in a few weeks time. I'm sure they'll want Florian to tower Michael B. Jordan in the film regardless. I think the best way to establish Florian's height will be comparing him to people of known height with little controversy.
Pierre said on 8/Nov/18
@Rising=I don't see him as tall as 6"4' too(Florian)
Rising - 174 cm said on 7/Nov/18
@Pierre: Ok, fair enough. As I said, from what I've seen so far, it wouldn't surprise me if Dolph was around 2 cm shorter these days, but we'll see how tall Florian actually is since 6'4" is only his billed height. I can't say for sure since I haven't seen enough of Florian yet, but Roland looks a more legit 6'4" than him, imo.
Pierre said on 7/Nov/18
@Rising=of course i never say Dolph is as straight as Roland i just say you have to take in consideration Roland's posture too.
i agree in the video you posted Dolph and Florian are looking about the same height.
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Nov/18
@Pierre: Are you really arguing Dolph is standing as straight as Roland is? Come on, I'm 100% sure that isn't the case. In fact, I have trouble remembering the last time I saw Dolph stand as straight as Roland is in that photo with the one possible exception being the photo with Big D. If the camera is low for Roland then it'd be giving him an advantage in that case if anything so I don't see why you bring that up. I don't think Dolph is getting a noticeable camera advantage in all of those on set photos with Florian, but you're also overlooking Dolph being on lower ground in every photo. Check out how consistent these photos are from chin to eye to head: Click Here Considering Dolph has a very large head and eye level to begin with, you'd expect his head to look freakishly large if he were getting much of a camera advantage there and that's not the case. But I'll agree they're not great photos so check out this video: Click Here You can barely see a difference. From what I've seen so far, Dolph is maybe 2 cm shorter or at the absolute most 1". If some better evidence comes out, I'll reconsider.
Pierre said on 5/Nov/18
@Rising=I can not agree with you Rising,you must take in consideration Roland's posture to compare them ,he's not as straight as he can,the camera is low for him and his head/neck naturally tilts a little to watch the camera.
Pictures Dolph/Florian= for me with a camera very low a guy who is closer to the camera than the other guy has clearly an advantage.And for me Dolph in all the pics you posted is closer to the camera =the floor hide Florian's sneakers but the floor doesn't hide Dolph's sneakers because the camera is lower than the floor on which they are standing and because Dolph is closer to the stair/to the camera than Florian
Rising - 174 cm said on 5/Nov/18
My bad, I didn't realize you were referring to the pics on set, but I'm not sure if that's true or not. Maybe in some, but it doesn't really look like it here: Click Here or especially here: Click Here and if we want to consider the factors then it's worth noting that Florian appears to be standing on higher ground. Florian should be taller than current Dolph if he's anywhere near the 6'4" he gets billed at, but my point is the two side by side seem pretty close in height there.
Rising - 174 cm said on 5/Nov/18
@Pierre: Roland looks to be standing about as straight you could expect, but more importantly, he's clearly standing straighter than Dolph meaning he has a posture advantage. Whether Roland is perfectly straight is besides the point. As I said, I doubt that Creed 2 promo pic reflects their real height unless Stallone is actually 5'10", but it's laughable to suggest Dolph would have an advantage there. Look at them on set and they don't look much different. I didn't think there seemed to be a big difference from what I could tell in the gym video of them training, but we'll find out better when the movie comes out.
Pierre said on 5/Nov/18
@Rising=In the pictures you posted to Houss on 04/nov Dolph/Florian Munteanu, Dolph is standing always closer to the camera which is very low.One proof he's closer=we can always see his sneakers and not Florian's sneakers.Standing only some centimeters closer to the camera when the camera is very low as here is very advantageous for height.Despite this Florian always looks tall here
Pierre said on 5/Nov/18
@Rising=because you don't take in consideration Roland isn't perfectly straight
Rising - 174 cm said on 4/Nov/18
@Canson: I'm not sure exactly how tall Ralf is. I've always suspected 197 peak and 196 today, though. I'd give the Universal Soldier guys at the time about 197 for Ralf, 196 for Tiny Lister and 193 for Dolph. Ralf was incredibly impressive for a guy that tall. Maybe Dolph went from a guy who held 193 cm throughout the entire day to a guy who could measure around that midday, but dipped below it by 2003. I don't see a big loss, though seeing him next to Ralf in that gym video and it's difficult to believe he lost anything by 1999 seeing him with Scott Schwartz. I think every major bodybuilder by the 70's and 80's was using, but there's no question Ralf had the genetics and talent too, especially at his height. I'm not anti-steroids, btw and you're right that it's extremely rare to see a guy anywhere near that size in that type of shape. Actors not as impressive as top pro bodybuilders use them to get in shape for roles too. I'm glad Dolph admitted it since he was in pretty amazing shape for a legit 6'4" guy anyway, but he gained 30 pounds in a few months after getting the Rocky 4 role while remaining lean. He went from 215 to around 240 and peaked at 245 during filming. He was even bigger at 250 for Masters of the Universe and still around 235 for Showdown in Little Tokyo.

@Pierre: I didn't say Dolph's posture was awful there, I said Roland is clearly standing straighter with his back straight, head up, chest out. Dolph is clearly a bit hunched there, but more importantly his head is down lowering his eye level and making it inaccurate to compare eye level. It's simply a fact Dolph has a big eye to top of head at 5"+. Compare the top of their heads and the difference is about 2" using Dolph's roughly 10.25" head as reference. So the final difference with both standing straight couldn't be 2.5" because the difference isn't that big between the top of their heads even with Dolph standing worse. I can agree Dolph looks like he'd be more 189 than 190 based on that particular pic, though.

@houss: Something seems off with that pic. Stallone in dress shoes is almost as tall as Michael B. Jordan in thicker chelsea boots even though Stallone is about 2" shorter than Jordan in similar footwear nowadays. Then you have Dolph looking 6'2" compared to Jordan yet no more than 6'1" with Munteanu and Munteanu has about 7" on Jordan, though I doubt that's the case in real life. Perhaps a case of making the new Drago look taller in the promo much like they did the old one and Stallone making himself look taller. If you see the two Dragos on set, the difference doesn't seem that big: Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 4/Nov/18
@Rising: I never realized just how jacked Moeller actually was in his prime. He certainly had a true “peak” meaning excessively jacked vs his normal body composition (average through the years). He’s Even more impressive given how difficult it is for someone with longer limbs like he has to add that type of muscle. Guys that are his build usually look like he does today in his late 50s (at best).
Canson said on 3/Nov/18
@Rising: I will say that in the pics with Arnold, he still looks at least 6’5” (more likely 196cm if anything). He has retained his height remarkably well given the life he led similar to the guys you mentioned (dolph, Ferrigno) Arnold etc. lol he didn’t use steroids tho either. He looks all natural whereas most of the American Body builders and likely Arnold all used them
Canson said on 3/Nov/18
@Rising: I will say that in the pics with Arnold, he still looks at least 6’5” (more likely 196cm if anything). He has retained his height remarkably well given the life he led similar to the guys you mentioned (dolph, Ferrigno) Arnold etc
Pierre said on 3/Nov/18
@Rising=Dolph isn't looking particulary in poor posture in this pic all his body look straight from head to foot.Roland's neck/head does not seem to me perfectly straight too,i think he can be in a more perfect posture. Dolph has very probably a bigger eyelevel than Roland but not a lot imo,Dolph's forehead doesn't look very tall.I think the final difference between them will be around 2.5 inches,it seems to me hard to watch less than 2 inches.
Canson said on 2/Nov/18
@Pierre: Rising is 100% right. Moeller is not less than 6’5 even today. Now with Dolph that’s gonna vary a cm maybe, but even then in 2003 I agree with him. He may still have been something like 192-193 there. Now I don’t know exactly how tall Moeller was peak. I used to think he was 6’5 1/2 peak until I saw the 196 listing. He honestly looked taller than the majority of 197 listed guys here on this site. Look at Rory McCann and Moeller still looks taller although I never believed McCann to be much over 6’5 and he doesn’t have the same proportions but it’s clear that Moeller has proportions of a guy at least 6’5”. He honestly can pull off a near 6’6 in some of his pics. Even with Arnold, despite the muscle, he can almost look a bit lanky (just with a very good build)
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Nov/18
@Pierre: The point is Roland is standing straighter than Dolph. You have to look at the top of their heads because Dolph has an unusually big eye level to head of 5"+ and Dolph is lowering his eye level by tilting his head down. I see a 2" difference as the top of Dolph's head is a bit below Roland's hairline, but I'm sure Dolph is losing some in posture and Roland's body might even be positioned slightly closer to the camera. I don't think there's any doubt Dolph can look 6'1.5"-6'2" with loose posture these days, but the question is what he would measure. I think this helps demonstrate how big Dolph's head is because Rob said Hasselhoff has a big head himself, but Dolph does not appear closer to the camera: Click Here The top of their heads are very closely depending on how much extra hair each has, which is tough to tell with both, but Hoff's chin is clearly higher. This suggests to me that Dolph's head is even a bit bigger.
Pierre said on 2/Nov/18
(Mouse=Mouth sorry)
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Nov/18
@Canson: Good posts, I can't really disagree with anything. I'm open to either for Ralf, but I'll say that Dolph measured up noticeably better to him in '03 than Lou Ferrigno did in '97. As for Dolph's posture and height loss, I think it's a combination. He's in impressive shape for his age, but he obviously has some pretty serious ailments to get a double hip replacement before age 60. Dolph mentioned in the past that he injured his back training with Lou Ferrigno in the mid 80's so that could be discs, but I suspect the motorcycle accident and torn ligaments during Missionary Man had something to do with it as well because that's around the time Dolph really started looking shorter. If you look at Dolph on video with 6'2.25" listed Richard Madeley in 2008, he still looks comfortably over 6'3" unless Madeley is much shorter than listed. Even if Madeley was closer to his 6'1.5" current height a decade ago, I could still see Dolph around 6'3.5" at that time. Aside from Dolph's injuries, I do think tall men who slouch for years can be prone to serious height loss due to increased curvature. I think this happened to Clint Eastwood too and might be happening to Goldblum.
houss said on 2/Nov/18
Click Here
This guy is billed 193cm on Google
Pierre said on 1/Nov/18
@Rising= Click Here .Dolph's eyes are a little bit under Roland's mouse and Roland break a little bit his neck/tilt a little bit with his head to watch the camera very low for him.I can not see only 1.5 inches between them even if both were standing perfectly straight=Dolph eyes will be somewhere between Roland's mouse and tip of nose,then the difference will be around 2.5 inches not 1.5 inches.
Canson said on 1/Nov/18
@Rising: I’m a bit torn now especially after I saw the 196 listing as well. While Ralph surely gave an impression of 197 off more so than others listed at 6’5.5 on this site such as Rory McCann etc, I wouldn’t rule out something like 196.5 or 196.3 peak. I’d still say he’s a strong 6’5” at minimum peak if not weak 6’6”.
Canson said on 1/Nov/18
@Rising: I agree that 189 range today. Maybe right where Rob has him or right at 189 (6’2 3/8 or 1/2). He has abysmal posture I agree. I wonder if he really lost true height (reduced disc height and bones etc) or if that’s a matter of him just not being able to stand straight due to health issues (if he has something major that is affecting him)
Canson said on 1/Nov/18
@Pierre and Rising: i think perception will vary from person to person here. Moeller always stood out height wise as did a peak Lundgren
Rising - 174 cm said on 1/Nov/18
@Canson: I agree Dolph looked noticeably taller still in the early 2000's. I'd say more 193 in the gym video since the difference can be barely noticeable at times(though Ralf often leans), but 192 is possible at worst, imo. His posture in that video and today is night and day too. He often stands kind of sideways the last decade much like Hulk Hogan. Though Rock Hudson claimed to shrink an inch by his early 40's, I'd guess Dolph didn't lose much or anything until late 40's. He's actually over 40 in this pic with 6'8" Scott L. Schwartz from Bridge of Dragons(1999): Click Here I see Dolph anywhere from 3"-3.5" shorter there with a probable 1/4" or so footwear advantage so still a solid 6'4" guy through the 90's. As I've said before, the most interesting part of that is Dolph looking taller in regular 1.2" range boots than Seagal did in cowboy boots with Schwartz 2 years earlier for Fire Down Below. His height loss was quite noticeable by the Expendables, but his height loss since then is also noticeable. Compare how he looked in 2010 with Terry Crews to those 2016 pics: Click Here Click Here As for Rob's pic, all I can say is Dolph looks somewhere in the 187 cm range when you account for the fraction less footwear and then you add how much height you think Dolph is dropping. I have no idea just how much height he's losing from his measured height, but when you see the pic, you don't think that's a man over 189. But imagine Dolph standing like John Schneider for a second and instead of a 1/4" less footwear, give Dolph 0.3"-0.4" more footwear like Schneider's Nike Shox. So Dolph's current height is somewhat of a mystery to me since he still looked at least 6'3" with Big D and Rob said Dolph had 3 cm on another 186-187 guy he knows so his height isn't really constant. Roughly 189 is a fair guess overall, but it'd be interesting to see him stand for a stadiometer measurement.

@Pierre: Good find, but Dolph looks 6'2" there with worse posture. If he tilts his head up and stands completely straight like Roland, I'm sure he could squeeze out that half inch. Here's Dolph recently with 5'11.5" listed Christopher Walken: Click Here Not a good angle, but it's obvious Dolph is much taller.
Pierre said on 1/Nov/18
@Rising = Click Here =Dolph next to Roland Kickinger listed 6"4' here
Canson said on 31/Oct/18
@Rising: yea in the 2003 video maybe 192cm range. I don’t have Moeller much less than 197 peak but not less than 196 today. Dolph must have lost his height rapidly in the last 15 years because he did look taller in the early 2000s vs now. Honestly looks 189 max (if straightened up) with Rob
Rising - 174 cm said on 31/Oct/18
@Pierre: You're entitled to your opinion, but the average guess is even a bit over Rob's listing and to be clear, I haven't voted on James. Nolte has said his boots made him look taller than 6'0". Dolph looks a lot taller than James in their scene in Red Scorpion so it's not like James had to be 6'2.5" or even a full 6'2" for Dolph to be at least 6'4" either. You can see this when James arrests Dolph in the film. As for Cypher, if he's significantly shorter than Rob lists him then Rob should downgrade him, but a reliable reference would at least be someone else listed on this site, but not someone only on Google/IMDB. Speaking of which, I hope great character actor M. Emmett Walsh gets added eventually. I can't remember if I've posted a still of them before, but here's a wide shot from Red Scorpion: Click Here But I think if you just look at the shortest someone looks and make up your mind purely on that then you'll be prone to downgrading them. The same way you'll be prone to upgrading them if you only look at the tallest they look. This is especially true in films because it's standard practice to minimize height differences to frame shots.

Btw, not that it means much, but it seems Dolph towered over everyone he was seen with in Venice recently: Click Here Click Here You can see how he drops height in that first pic, including his bent knees and generally doesn't have good posture, but if nothing else, I think this shows Dolph is still quite a big guy by most standards even after losing a lot of height. Either that or he borrowed a tiny entourage from Stallone so he could still look like Drago.
Pierre said on 31/Oct/18
@Rising= Click Here Click Here Click Here Michael rapaport next to Wentworth Miller listed 6"0.5'= looks more 6"1' than 6"2' no?
Pierre said on 31/Oct/18
@Rising= Click Here Brion James/kurt Russel(in cow boy boots but...)More 6"1' than 6"2' no?
Pierre said on 30/Oct/18
@Rising=Brion James= Click Here
Pierre said on 30/Oct/18
@Rising=Brion James =in "Another 48 hours" next to Ed O'Ross (listed 5"11.5') and Nick Nolte(listed 6"0') i don't see him as tall as 6"2'range
Rising - 174 cm said on 30/Oct/18
@Canson: If that's the case then Dolph is still an easy 193 cm in that 2003 gym video. How tall would you say Moeller was in 2003? Dolph lost height fast, but it's not completely surprising. Some big guys can start losing noticeable height as they approach 50, especially with a lot of wear and tear. The difference between Dolph and Arnold in the 2012 video is not so different from the '96 one, which suggests Dolph's height loss during that time was pretty comparable to Arnold's.

@Pierre: I didn't post that pic, I posted the screenshot where Arnold and Holyfield are face to face. I'm only talking about how tall Arnold and Holyfield were in that Planet Hollywood video. Arnold winds up looking taller in that part of the video, so even if he has an advantage there it points more to them being around the same height, but not Arnold being shorter in that video.
Pierre said on 30/Oct/18
@Rising= Click Here Click Here =Jon Cypher and Matt Mulhern(the right man without mustache) listed 190(6"2.8') and 6"2' in web
Rising - 174 cm said on 29/Oct/18
@Pierre: Of course if you lower Ralf(or anyone for that matter), you can lower Dolph, but I'm not convinced he was below 6'5" in 2003 and even if he were 195 then, Dolph can still look 193 in the gym video or 192 at worst. Matthias would be an interesting height to add, though you can't tell his height from Dark Angel/I Come in Peace because they gave him thick platform boots to make him look even bigger as you can see in this shot: Click Here but if you dropped Dolph below 6'4" peak then you'd have to drop a lot of listings significantly such as 6'2" Jon Cypher: Click Here Dolph was always noticeably taller than 6'2" range guys back in the 80's and 90's with Brion James and Michael Rapaport two more examples.
Canson said on 27/Oct/18
@Rising: wouldn’t surprise me at all if Moeller is still 196.5 or something like that (196 and change). He looks as if he has retained his height well and I wouldn’t argue him being less than 6’5.5 peak. I think 6’5 is too low
Pierre said on 26/Oct/18
@Rising=There is other times in the video Evander is taller than Arnold,Evander break his neck in the pic you posted,here Click Here he's staighter to talk to Dolf and Arnold has to look up with his eyes to watch Evander.Here Click Here at the premiere of Eraser(1996) Evander is more distant to the camera(watch the lines at the floor and the words behind them) but looks taller than Arnold even if he has no hairs
Pierre said on 26/Oct/18
@Rising=Or Ralph was under 6"5' in 2003...
Rising - 174 cm said on 25/Oct/18
@Pierre: Arnold was at least as tall in that video. Look at them face to face around 26 seconds: Click Here And Dolph has more than 3" on Arnold in the video: Click Here Notice Arnold also stands tall while Dolph has loose posture while they're standing. The way you can tell Holyfield is much more than 2" shorter is how he cranes his neck to look at Dolph even though they're standing at a distance while Dolph looks down and bends forward. If Holyfield nowadays is about the same height as Chuck Liddell, then even a noticeably shrunken Dolph would have around 2" on him if he stood decently as he must have with Liddell.
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Oct/18
@Pierre: I'm only going by the consensus on Ralf, which seems to be that he was 197, but is now more like 196. I didn't say how tall Matthias is or if he's lost height. Even if Ralf was only 6'5" flat in 2003, Dolph still looked near his peak height of 6'4" in the gym video. Ralf has lost less height than most big bodybuilders his age, but it's still probable he was taller in '03 than the last few years.
Pierre said on 24/Oct/18
@Rising=by considering Evander is taller than Arnold there is not a big difference between him and Dolph,something like maximum 2 inches imo.
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Oct/18
Yeah, I've always figured Dolph was on a box for close ups with Carl, but he still looked easily 3" taller while fighting. Here's Dolph still looking at or very near his peak height in 1996 with 186 cm Evander Holyfield and Arnold, who looks as tall as Holyfield early in the video: Click Here You can't compare Holyfield to Dolph as well, but you can tell Holyfield is significantly shorter. You can see how tall Dolph is next to Arnold at 1:24-1:25. Just before the timestamp, you can see how Dolph stands out in the crowd. No doubt in my mind Dolph WAS a legit 6'4" in the 80's and 90's. Not only did he look it, but think about it, if he were only 6'3" back then, why lie at the risk of losing the Rocky 4 part?
Pierre said on 24/Oct/18
@Rising=you talk about the loss of height of Ralf by the years,you have to know Matthias(by web source) is born the same year as Ralf.
Rising - 174 cm said on 23/Oct/18
@Pierre: You're right about footwear being unknown in the first 2 pics, though I'd assume footwear was pretty normal in the first pic because they're in the gym. There still could be advantages of course, but Ralf looks further from the camera so I'd think he's at the disadvantage. In the second pic, I agree Ralf must have either ground or camera advantage because he looks too tall. Matthias could be bending his knee more in the 3rd pic because of how they look in the 4th pic. But my point was just that Matthias doesn't look taller in every pic. I think they're probably very close in height, but it's possible Matthias does edge Ralf these days.

@Christian: That's possible. I know I've mentioned this before, but it's important for Terry's height. In my post on 13/Aug/17 on this page, Rob replied to these videos: Click Here Click Here "Editor Rob: Terry can look at most 6ft 2 there, I think dolph about 6ft 3 range at that moment is believable." Terry looking 6'2" max would seem to make a solid 187 at least arguable even though I guess Terry at a solid 6'2" like Brett Favre or 188-188.5 range myself. I'm guessing Rob was referring more to how Terry looked compared to a then presumably 6'3" Dolph since he still looks easily 6'2" with a then roughly 5'11.5" Arnold. But Terry is now 50 compared to 44 in the video so a small loss since then is also possible, but you could argue that height for Terry fits better seeing him next to Dolph at least, both 2012 and 2016.
Pierre said on 22/Oct/18
@Rising=in the pic number four you posted(and so logically the pic number three too) we can see a little bit the shoes and i agree Matthias has an advantage.I don't know if they are Cow boy shoes.But i always see him a little bit taller than Ralf with all the parameters,postures etc.In the pic number one i don't know the shoes ,i can see the angle of the picture is imo in favour of Ralf's height=because all the guys are tilting on their left side.In the pic number two i ask me if the angle of the pic is a little bit in favour to Ralf(particulary when i watch the vertical line of the white door behind Matthias);Ralf seem to stand straighter than Matthias,i agree Matthias is a little bit(not a lot)closer to the camera.I see him always a little bit taller
JamesB172cm said on 21/Oct/18
rob How tall would you say he looks compared too Carl Weathers?

Click Here
Editor Rob
At the start he could be 5 inches smaller but likely on a small platform, otherwise I think 3 inches
Rising - 174 cm said on 21/Oct/18
@Pierre: I don't think Matthias has a page here, is 196/6'5" what he claims himself? Matthias doesn't always look taller than Ralf: Click Here Click Here and Ralf also looks taller in this pic: Click Here Granted, he looks about an inch shorter in this pic from the same day: Click Here but that also shows Matthias has a big footwear advantage. In general, it seems Matthias is a fan of boots: Click Here So footwear would have to be known in any comparison, imo. But if you look at Ralf's page, there's pretty wide agreement that Ralf is/was a legit 6'5" guy in the 196-197 cm range so it would take quite a bit to prove he's shorter. But I agree Nevsky consistently looks a bit taller than Matthias and he's also a bit taller than Ralf, though not in every pic as one of the pics I posted above actually shows Ralf taller, though I assume he has the advantage. Ralf also looks at least as tall in this gym pic, but maybe the photo was taken too close: Click Here In any event, we're talking about Ralf's height back in '03 and it'd be more likely Dolph would have shrunk by that point because he's a year older and he's lost a lot of height while Ralf has maintained his height pretty well to this day. Though I think there's a decent chance Dolph was the same 193 cm he always was in 2003 since he still looked quite tall to me in films at that time.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 21/Oct/18
@Canson

Dolph might be 189 and Terry 187-188.
Pierre said on 19/Oct/18
@Rising=Comparisons Dolph/Ralf Moeller=
Watch pictures in web Ralf/Matthias Hues(listed 6"5'/196 in all the sites i have read)=Matthias always look taller than Ralf
(Matthias Hues standing next to Alexander nevsky -listed 6"6' in all the sites i have read-seems to me always a little bit shorter than him which make me think his 6"5'list would be good )
Pierre said on 19/Oct/18
@Rising=Watch pictures in web Matthias Hues(listed 6"5'/196 in all the sites i have read)/Ralf
Moeller=Matthias always look taller than Dolph.
(Matthias Hues standing next to Alexander nevsky (listed 6"6' in all the sites i have read) seems to me always a little bit shorter than him )
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Oct/18
46 year old Dolph still looked every bit of 193 cm back in 2003 with 196-197 cm Ralf Moeller: Click Here There's one timestamp where they're standing together. You first see Ralf around 1:12, they're also standing together for about 40 seconds from 4:45 on and 3:05 is good as well because while Dolph obviously bends his knees to do the dead lift, but he makes sure his back is straight and Ralf stands behind him. Dolph standing straight in this video is why I say you need to look at Dolph with other big guys, especially video footage. Dolph does mention he was getting back into heavier lifting and trying to add mass again like he did in 1985 so maybe that knocked some height off him in his late 40's. Dolph has mentioned a back injury while training with Lou Ferrigno in the mid 80's so things like that could have taken their toll as years went on along with the motorcycle accident for Missionary Man, getting off steroids in the 90's, double hip replacement etc. Obviously, the latter is in no way an ordinary procedure for a 60 year old man. But you can see Dolph in 2008 still looked noticeably taller than Richard Madeley(listed at 6'2.25" here) Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Oct/18
@Pierre: Rob didn't bust a gut for the photo himself, but Rob said from the very beginning that he believed Dolph dropped more height than he did and imo, that much is obvious, which makes it less surprising than many other listings. A photo just shows a split second and we're left to guess about a lot unless we can hear from someone who was there when the photo was taken. Remember, Rob's photo was about a year before Dolph had his hips replaced and he said himself he was having increasing trouble with them for years by that point. It's not even close to the most surprising photo of Dolph either. The one at the top of Van Damme's page from 2012 when Dolph was still 6'3" is much more because Dolph doesn't look any taller than 6'1": Click Here and posture isn't as immediately obvious, which is why Rob speculated Dolph was arching his back. Van Damme's boots will give him a fraction advantage, but not enough to explain this. However, here's a photo taken minutes apart from that one where you can see Dolph is leaning in: Click Here Van Damme is also leaning in, but Dolph suddenly looks over 6'3" compared to Van Damme's 5'9" listed peak and 5'8.75" listed Statham is standing completely straight yet looks nearly an inch below where Rob does on current Dolph.
Pierre said on 17/Oct/18
Dolph tilt on his left side but Rob break a little bit his posture with his head/neck imo and then the scale of the height chart isn't particulary high imo
Rising - 174 cm said on 15/Oct/18
@Christian: You're right he looks about 6'1.5" in the pic. My bad, I thought you were saying to Canson that Dolph couldn't be above 6'2" because of the pic. I do think Jordan is on to something regarding Kane Hodder's height, but I still firmly believe Dolph will surprise some with a measurement.

@Canson: I think there could just be a half inch between them now, which is why I said a 6'2" flat Dolph would make Terry no more than 6'1.5", but I don't think there'd be less than that, especially in the pic. The exact difference there depends on how high the top of Dolph's head is and how much he's bending his knee. Dolph did still have a good inch on Terry in video from Arnold's 2012 book release and at least that much or more in full pics and video from the first Expendables premiere in 2010 so the height difference between them now depends on how much you think Dolph could have lost since then, imo. Another half inch loss is more than possible between 55-60, but Dolph could already look much shorter than he was in some pics from 2010-2012 so I don't know.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Oct/18
@Rising

I'm not saying that Dolph can't be over 6'2". I'm just saying that he doesn't look over it with Rob.
Canson said on 14/Oct/18
@Rising: while I agree Dolph regularly has poor posture, I don’t see him edging Crews by a lot. They look similar in that pic imho. Maybe half inch for Dolph. But I also wonder how tall Crews actually is. Is 6’2.25 a morning height or afternoon? I could see Crews dip below 6’2 perhaps. I doubt Dolph would however. I don’t see Dolph even being that low. He has ridiculously poor posture in some pics I’ve seen
Rising - 174 cm said on 14/Oct/18
@Canson: The photos with Joe actually prove my point. Joe's height varies from around 6'5" in the top pic(with 1/4" more footwear) when he's standing straight to no more than 6'3" in the one where he's leaning. If Joe's height can vary at least 2" in pics with Rob then surely Dolph with worse posture in general could look an inch shorter than he is. If that one pic were the only one with Joe, we'd have posters insisting Joe was much shorter because he only looks 6'3" in the one photo with Rob. That's why I find some of the reasoning here silly. It completely ignores Dolph with Rob's 6'2" friend Big D as well as Rob seeing Dolph 3 cm taller when he greeted a 186-187 cm friend and Rob's belief that Dolph is at least 189 cm after seeing him in person. All because Dolph looks 187 cm range while leaning in a photo? I think Seagal is more of a case of a photo making him look shorter than he is due to posture and a tilt in a neutral background rather than Rob overestimating him by any significant amount. He's a completely different case than Dolph either way, though. Dolph has a noticeably bigger head/eye level for one and Seagal stands pretty well in general while Dolph does not. I'd expect Dolph to be estimated somewhat shorter than he is in general rather than taller. Estimating him taller than he is with his big head, bad posture and often modest footwear really doesn't make any sense. Dolph's listing is actually much easier to buy with the height chart than Steven's.

@Rob: There's no doubt Hoff has been taller for at least a decade, but I don't believe for a second he'd measure 2" taller. I wouldn't rule out the difference seeming greater than it was, but I'm just saying Hoff was probably still close to 6'4" when you met him while Dolph may have been down to 6'2.5" so it'd make sense Hoff seemed more than an inch taller even without those differences. But 4 years earlier, Dolph was still 6'3" so add in thicker sneakers and Hoff perhaps leaning in a bit and you have them looking almost the same height together. It's worth noting Dolph measured up noticeably better next to Hasselhoff in 2012 than The Rock did in 2017. I think at least a lot of this has to be posture. Aside from Dolph looking taller with Big D, it's worth pointing out Dolph actually looks to be standing straight there too.
morteza hoseini said on 13/Oct/18
though I think the dolph is at most 193cm and it should be known, usually starting from the age of 35 to 40, and, according to his age, probably shortens by about 2cm and is now 191cm, but I think the imperialist measurement system ) Has some drawbacks. For example, in the FIFA game, when you enter a player to build a player based on the pound currency and the English system, or you need to enter 6ft4in, that is, 192.5cm or 6ft3in, 190.5cm, so you can build a player with a precise stature 191cm or 192cm or 193cm in particular, and you have to enter the system based on the metric and the dollar ...
Canson said on 12/Oct/18
@Rising: actually I would expect Rob to overestimate him. Seagal doesn’t look over 6’3” yet Rob has him 6’3.5. Same with Mangianello. He doesn’t look 6’5 yet he had him at that even after he met him. Joe is now 6’4.75 but I estimate him 6’4.5. Max,a poster here, said he met him and had flip flops on (exact same footwear) and that he was an inch taller. Max is 6’5.5 so that rules out 6’5 for sure. I guess 6’5.5 is possible but joe never gives that tall of an impression off imho. Joe looks similar to Cam Heyward who measured a morning 6’4 5/8 at the combine. Meaning 6’4.25 prob
Canson said on 12/Oct/18
@Christian: you know something. You’re right in that pic for sure. I gave him benefit of the doubt but he’s under 6’2 in the height chart. Not sure if he’s over if he stood straight
Rising - 174 cm said on 12/Oct/18
@Christian: That's because he's not standing straight. You give Terry Crews 6'2"-6'2.25" yet Dolph was flat out taller than Terry the same year(2016) Rob took a photo with him: Click Here They had similar footwear and we can even ignore Dolph bending his knee in that pic. 6'2" flat Dolph would make Terry 6'1.5" and that would make Ryan Reynolds 6'1.25" max, which you literally just said was too low. If you want to change your estimates for those guys then that's fine, but that's what a 6'2" max Dolph would mean. You guys are treating one photo like it's a measurement yet if you just looked at their photos with Rob, you'd think Hasselhoff was 2" taller than Dolph, but when the two of them actually stood together 1 year before Hoff's photo with Rob and 4 years before Dolph's photo with Rob, Hoff only had 1 cm on Dolph with about 1 cm less sneakers. You said Hoff had to be at least 192 with Rob so that means 2012 Dolph was still 190 minimum(which would also make Terry just 187 6 years ago) and that would mean Dolph lost another 2 cm minimum between 2012-2016, which is not believable. Jordan also said on 22/Feb/17 "Dolph Is clearly losing more height than Rob. Clear as day." and I agree with that.
Editor Rob
Hoff is noticeably taller in person than Lundgren, though...I had a bit more than Dolph and a bit less than Hoff, so I remember the difference as greater than it might be if measuring them barefoot.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Oct/18
@Canson

Jordan is correct. He's nothing over 6'2" with Rob.
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Oct/18
@Jordan: Weathers is at least 6'0.5" in the recent pic with Rob since Rob comes up exactly to his eye level, but Rob has said Weathers has consistently still looked close to 6'1" to him and 6'0.5" would be the minimum rather than maximum. I don't think he'd be wrong on that after seeing him 3 times. The November pic favors Weathers in both camera and posture, yet Dolph still looks a good 3 cm taller. He looks 2"+ taller in both the May pics and I already said Dolph had a camera advantage in the first, but nothing noticeable in the second considering the difference in head size looks close to reality: Click Here His posture is worse if anything in that one. Carl still has a pretty straight back even when he's leaning, but you can see Dolph is standing sort of sideways and you can see he drops height in his hips as well, which should be no surprise. He'd still easily be 6'2.5" for a measurement. 6'1.5" in bad posture and his large eye level will make him look a half inch shorter than he is to people on top of that.
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Oct/18
@Canson: I still wouldn't go under 6'2.5" myself, but since he's even 6'1.5" in this photo while visibly leaning, it is clear he'd be 6'2" at the very least if he stood straight. The problem is, I can't remember the last time I saw Dolph look like he was busting a gut. I've assumed he's basically standing tall when he still looks tall, but he never looks to have great posture anymore. For instance, in the two 2012 photos where Dolph looks close to Hasselhoff's height, I assume he's basically standing tall and that's about as well as I've seen him stand the last decade and it still only looks like ok casual rather than perfect posture. He appeared to be standing a bit better post hip replacement with Weathers in May '17 too, but still somewhat sideways. That makes him very difficult to guess exactly these days, but yeah, 80's Dolph was what a legit 6'4" looked like. Lou Ferrigno for instance never looked that tall to me.

@Rampage: Yeah, he actually measured up well to Florian Munteanu on set, but we'll see how they look in some better shots.
Jordan87 said on 10/Oct/18
RIsing,

No, the Angle and Posture Favors Lundgren in those Pictures my Friend. Weathers is not 6'1 with Rob either. He is more 6'0 to 6'0.5 Tops. Lundgren nowadays is not taller than 6'2.
Canson said on 10/Oct/18
I don’t think he’s less than a strong 6’2 today. Maybe 6’2.25 or 6’2 3/8 but no less. Genuinely looks 189cm. Peak 6’4 however imho
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 9/Oct/18
It’ll be interesting to see how he fairs in Creed 2
Truly Madly Deeply said on 28/Sep/18
6ft 1½
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Sep/18
I do believe he was 6'4" or 193 cm and while the 193 claim was around 2005, iirc, he did even refer to his Rocky 4 era height as 6'4" in Sports Illustrated. But I don't think he should be downgraded with a guy like Seagal given 6'4 1/8", especially since Dolph measured up better to Ultimate Bad Guy in flat boots than Seagal did in cowboy boots. Knowing prime Dolph is what a legit 6'4" looked like, it's amazing quite a few people thought Louis Gossett Jr. was 6'4": Click Here Click Here Click Here John Finn also looked a good 5" shorter than Dolph in Cover Up, though I don't know how tall he is/was, but probably not shorter than Brandon Lee considering Brandon was at least 5" shorter than Dolph even with a camera advantage: Click Here Click Here I posted those comparisons about a year ago, but I'm just making the point that with Brandon listed 5'11.6" and Gossett listed 6'3", it's not surprising some would guess Dolph 6'4.5" from '89-'91. Maybe this should have gone on their pages, but with peak Dolph more of a flat 6'4", I think Brandon had to be a flat 5'11" and Gossett more like 6'2.5". Dolph was probably a guy who didn't drop under 6'4" in his prime, or at least not more than a mm while Seagal was more likely a 6'4" flat/193 guy at lunchtime, imo.

Although Rob said he thought Dolph was dropping more height than he was, I'm glad to see the mugshot added because I had guessed the difference correctly a year ago at 5"-5.5" lol. But this shows Rob measures up almost as well to current Dolph as Brandon did to prime Dolph. It's also funny to note the supposedly 5'10.5" Alan Light measured up at least an inch worse to a slouching 1990 Dolph than Rob here even though I don't think Dolph was dropping as much height. At the very least, it seems Rob made the right move limiting photo contributors to himself and people he's measured like Jenny. Dolph looks 6'1.5" range or 187ish before considering posture so it's pretty easy to see him measuring comfortably in the 6'2" range. I also have little doubt Dolph is still a good 4 cm taller than Carl even after the double hip replacement because while one or of the May 2017 photos must favor Dolph, he looks 2" taller in the other and this November 2017 photo favors Carl and Dolph is still about 3.5 cm or 1.25" taller: Click Here Dolph looks like he's leaning more, but Carl's head winds up looking as big as Dolph's in the photo and Rob said Dolph had a good 10" or 10.25" head in person and I'm pretty sure Carl's head isn't THAT big.
Neelasish Sen Roy said on 14/Sep/18
In my opinion he would 6'4.5" tall at max and now 6'3" or under,Rob?
Editor Rob
I wouldn't argue as tall as 4.5, I think either 6ft 4 or 4.25 is more arguable a peak and at least over 1 full inch lost by now.
Rising - 174 cm said on 13/Sep/18
@Pierre: I don't know, but he could be standing a bit better after surgery because he's in less pain. He said his hips had been bad enough for 3-4 years before that he couldn't do much as far as kicks. Hulk Hogan claimed to gain back a little height after one of his back surgeries. But I forgot that Rob said he saw Dolph greet a 186-187 cm man at the convention and that Dolph looked 3 cm taller so I don't think Dolph was incapable of standing tall yet, but of course you'll stand better when you're in less pain.
Pierre said on 11/Sep/18
@Rising,in my memory you can gain a little bit height after hip surgery,like Sarah Douglas in my memory?
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Sep/18
@Canson: I pretty much agree. Dolph still looks taller than Terry Crews, who looked taller than Ryan Reynolds himself. I won't argue Dolph can look a weak 6'2" at times, I just think he's going to measure taller than he usually looks, imo. His posture wasn't even good in a lot of 80's and 90's photos. I'll change my mind if someone can show me a comparable amount of comparisons of Dolph alongside other tall men. Imo, a photo of Dolph with someone your height or viper's height is more likely to show Dolph's height. Here's an example of what I'm talking about.

Dolph with 6'0.5"-6'1" Carl Weathers in May 2017(after Dolph's double hip replacement): Click Here Click Here

Now look at Dolph in 2010 when he was noticeably taller than he is now with Stallone in similar shoes: Click Here Obviously, he's losing noticeable height, but sometimes that isn't easily apparent in photos. I've seen the same thing of Dolph with Van Damme and Statham. Maybe he perfected not towering shorter men so Sly would give him roles again lol.

@viper: That's true, but if Rob were off, I'd expect him to underestimate Dolph due to his posture, big head and 1/4" less footwear rather than overestimate him. Especially since a now shrunken Dolph will be shorter than people expect rather than taller. If Dolph is a weak 6'2" then Rob's friend Big Dale would have to be closer to 6'1". You're right that nobody will be right 100% of the time short of some sort of Terminator-type scanning vision that detects height. But imo, Rob's estimate at least has to be kept in mind when determining height from one of Rob's photos. A photo is just a split second snapshot of that day that can capture someone while they're dropping height or gaining height. I just trust Rob's judgement more than a photo where Dolph's leaning since we have to guess how much height he's actually losing. But I don't mind disagreeing with you because at least you're open to changing your mind if you see something new and both you and Pierre will try to back up your opinions so I respect that.
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Sep/18
@Pierre: Obviously and I've said Winchester could be 6'0.5" too just like Carl nowadays, but there's no evidence Carl wears lifts and Rob didn't mention any heels. Winchester is clearly taller than Sam Waterston nowadays and I think most still have Waterston around 6'0". Ultimately, we'll never get anywhere without references. If Rob says someone has suspicious footwear, but he's unsure then I'll grant you that, but he's seen Carl 3 times and never with any unusual shoes nor do Carl's shoes look unusual at any public appearances so saying he COULD wear lifts is technically possible, but it's much more probable he doesn't. Even when Rob was still doing the mugshots for his photos, he only did it for the recent photo as he thought that one was more representative of how Carl looks and he never did one for Dolph.
viper said on 7/Sep/18
Weak 6-2. Rob is great but he's not going to be perfect
Canson said on 7/Sep/18
@Pierre and Rising: I still have him over 6’2”. Probably is about what Rob lists him. Worst I could buy now is maybe 189ish 6’2.25-.5 sane as Michael Phelps
viper said on 7/Sep/18
IMO Rob and even guys like Mr R are as good as it gets for in person height estimation. Obviously Rob also has pics to back it up.

I thought even Frank2 was good for the most part.

Yeah, nobody is going to be right 100 percent of the time. Impossible and If you were I would find it crazy weird lol.
Pierre said on 6/Sep/18
@Rising,Rob speaks only about what he can see, internal heels are generally not really visible or maybe only when the elevator shoes are so advantageous,but not only 3 cm.Philip Winchester is listed 6"1',if all the official heights were exact, we would be not here to discuss about this heights here no?
Editor Rob
There's very few actors I ever seen in obvious elevators. Some have worn big heels though, like 1.6-2 inch styles, but only a tiny minority anything noticeable.

But spotting a half to 3/4 inch lift in a boot or shoe is really hard, I think you'd need to really look hard and see trousers/jeans above ankle to spot something like that.
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Sep/18
@Pierre: And pictures can be more misleading than in person estimates. Carl Weathers is a perfect example. Rob confirmed Weathers was not shorter in the older pic and didn't have big heels in the newer one so that just proves my point. Weathers was the same height as his co-star on the short-lived series Chicago Justice Philip Winchester and he's listed 6'1". Maybe Carl is 6'0.5", but no shorter. It just happens that the recent pic is better for comparison. He must not have the same posture or it's the camera. Even IF the other tall men is a little generous, it'd have to be very generous for Dolph to be under 6'2". Dolph had a larger head(especially eye to head) even for the 6'4" man he was in his prime, so it's especially large now for a man in the 6'2" range and you can tell he's leaning. It stands to reason that he looks shorter because of posture if he can stretch up with tall men, including Rob's 6'2" friend.
Pierre said on 6/Sep/18
@Rising,it's only an estimation,Rob has a good eye but he has not the bionic eye of Arnold in Terminator,and so probably can not always give an exactly height,it's too hard with the hairs,the difference of shoes,the postures,the other person always moves a little bit too,and it's even harder to be very precise when you're standing next to a person who is significantly taller or shorter than you imo.You talk about Carl Weathers height =in the oldest picture next to Rob(imo same posture than in the other pic next to Rob)he looks at least 3 cm shorter,that's why i can ask me what type of shoes he was wearing in the second pic.By the first pic i see him around 6"0'. The height of the others tall men is just an official height,which can be sometimes a little bit generous.
Rising - 174 cm said on 5/Sep/18
@Pierre: I never said Dolph can't look under 6'2" when slouching or leaning, but you disregard Rob's estimate, which has never been below 6'2" in person. He confirmed when asked that Dolph is still a good 4 cm taller than Carl Weathers, who isn't less than 184 cm he looks in Rob's 2016 picture. And you completely ignore the pics of Dolph with taller men. If he were under 6'2" then he shouldn't look taller than Rob's 6'2" friend Big D. Nor should he look nearly as tall as he does in 2015-2016 pics and videos with 6'2.25" listed Terry Crews, 6'0.75" listed Chuck Liddell and 6'0.5" listed Michael Jai White. All need major downgrades if Dolph was below 6'2" in 2015-2016 as does 5'11.5" listed Randy Couture. The type of minor downgrades you can always argue wouldn't cut it for Dolph to be just 187. Dolph mentioned his hips were a problem for him 4 or 5 years before he finally got the double hip replacement so it's not surprising he doesn't stand tall often. That's often the case with men who have lost significant height, much less someone as banged up as Dolph. Rob has said Danny Glover definitely still seemed over 6'1" flat when he met him yet he looks maybe 6'0.5" in the photo for the same reason.

The bottom line is posture can explain Dolph looking below 6'2", but it can't be explained how he looks so much taller with men closer to his height, including a man Rob has told us is around 6'2" himself. If Dolph is below 189 then he's lost more height since 2016, which isn't that unlikely, but that doesn't look to be the case if Florian Munteanu is anywhere near his 6'4" listing: Click Here Click Here Of course, we'll get a better idea of his height and the difference between them when the film comes out.

@Junior: That makes sense as Dolph looked too close to Hoff not to have some sort of sneaker advantage, but 6'3" makes sense for late 2012 with Hoff and Crews, but he looks to have lost more height in the 6 years since. You could see he was shorter for the Expendables 3 than he was in the first 2.
Pierre said on 5/Sep/18
Sorry Rising by this two pics next to Big G and Rob i see him a little bit under 6"2'
Rising - 174 cm said on 4/Sep/18
@Pierre: Even in this pic, he's more than a forehead taller than Rob. Rob's head comes around the lower part of Dolph's eye level and Dolph has a very big eye to head area. He doesn't quite LOOK 6'2.5" here even considering footwear, but a solid 189 man can look 187 in photos with loose posture. The posture difference was more noticeable with Big Jay. You can tell the height difference by how Big Jay had to reach to put his arm around Dolph's shoulder. Again, Dolph is obviously taller than 6'2" Big D, so he's not 187. That's just bad posture of a man who has been banged up pretty good in his career.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 4/Sep/18
@Gracian said on 25/Aug/18 The full picture from google atually Lundgren had a 3/8th inch more footwear and he probably was still close to 6'3 with Hoff.
Neelasish Sen Roy said on 4/Sep/18
Do you think that Dolph lungdren, Jeff Goldblum and sir Christopher Lee all were 6'4.5".
Editor Rob
More chance of Lee hitting that mark than Lundgren I'd say.
Pierre said on 3/Sep/18
But your head tilt a lot Rob,without considering your posture and his posture a little bit on your side and 0.25 less shoe he looks only a good complete forehead taller than you here ,that's why i ask me if he's as tall as 6"2.5'.My eyes don't see him as tall even next to Big Jay,more 6"1.5'/6"1.75'.
Nice picture.
Sandy Cowell said on 3/Sep/18
...and I always saw him as quite a giant!

6ft2.5 now, 6ft4.5 for once before.
Der Titan said on 3/Sep/18
How come Daniel Majstorovic looks so much taller next to you than Dolph when you have them listed at the same height? Explain plz.
Editor Rob
I have a fraction more footwear than Dolph, Daniel has more footwear than me...so that's at least a difference to begin with.
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Sep/18
@Rampage: It's weird, but if Brandon Lee, Louis Gossett Jr, Scott L. Schwartz, Brion James, Grace Jones, Alan Light, Michael Rapaport and Jon Cypher are/were all around the heights we believe them to be then I'd say Dolph LOOKED around 195 cm with them or at least 6'4.5". But then I'd guess more of a flat 6'4" with solid 6'5" Tiny Lister.

@Rob: What made you change your mind? You had Dolph at 190 for quite some time after meeting him and said then that you thought weak 6'3" range fit him and he doesn't really look less than that to me with Big D. Was it that you were on the fence and his hip replacement last year made you more certain he'd measure below 190?
Myself said on 1/Sep/18
@Rampage
Well...it's not like even 6'3 flat or a little over would be small anyway...
I think the legit tall range ends at about 187 cm (this figure being between "tall" and "very tall"), and the very tall range begins at 188 and goes up to 196; over 196 i would consider extremely tall.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 30/Aug/18
There's a behind the scenes photo from Rocky 4 where he makes Stallone look like a child. I think it is fair to say that he was genuinely a bit over 6ft4. In the film itself they made him look even taller. Not too dissimilar to what they did with Michael Clarke Duncan in The Green Mile. A strong 6ft4 guy with the right frame can be made to look gigantic on screen.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 29/Aug/18
Rob, could Dolph still possibly hit 190cm?
Editor Rob
I am not so sure about that.
Rising - 174 cm said on 27/Aug/18
@Gracian: Dolph is slouching too much in the third pic with his arm around the woman, but you can see from the first two how tall he could still look when he stood well. I wish the video of the Conan appearance was still up. I do remember Dolph shorter, but I don't know how much shorter. It was shocking to even see him shorter as I have no doubt an 80's or early 90's Dolph would have been taller. I had actually forgot about this, but look at Dolph in 2016 with Rob's 6'2" friend Big Dale: Click Here That was one of the many things that convinced me Dolph is still taller than he often looks. I'd take any comparisons of Dolph with a grain of salt unless the other person is relatively close to his height.
187.5 cm said on 25/Aug/18
6ft 1½
Gracian said on 25/Aug/18
I wonder why in 2012 Dolph did not look much shorter than David Hasselhoff: Click Here
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I am also interested in the performance of Dolph and Conan O'Brien in his program in 2009 during Dolph's 52th birthday, he then looked much shorter than Conan: Click Here
Rob, what's your opinion about height from Dolph?
Editor Rob
I think Dolph in person doesn't seem as tall as he used to in 80's films, I mean if you put him beside guys like Routh/Welling, he won't look taller.

Although very fit, I do think he has suffered with injury and wear&tear more than 98% of guys his age would have done.
Rising - 174 cm said on 25/Aug/18
@nymph: He could be 193 peak and 190 current, but the man had a double hip replacement so a more than 3 cm loss makes sense and the height difference between Dolph now and Dolph in his prime looks unusual. Here's Dolph around '88 with a wide stance and possibly not much shoes(he's supposed to be a lifeguard) with 5'9" Charlie Sheen: Click Here The difference between prime Dolph and Sheen looks bigger than current Dolph and Rob even with Sheen's hat.

@Junior: Not that strange. Dolph is dropping height as he always does now when standing with men considerably shorter than he is. Even if Dolph lost another cm between 2012-2016, you'd expect him to look shorter than he does with Hasselhoff based on their respective photos with Rob.
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Aug/18
Well Hoff was taller than him in 2012, but not by much: Click Here Click Here When did Dolph say he was measured? I can actually believe 191.5 cm standing for a measurement in 2010 or even 2012 if Hoff was still near 193. Here's a better shot of Dolph's shoes: Click Here

I've posted this before, but he didn't look less than 3 cm taller than apparently 188.5 cm Terry Crews in 2010: Click Here Click Here or even late 2012 again: Click Here I think Dolph has lost about 1 cm more the last 5 years, but you can pretty much expect him to look shorter than he is unless he's with another tall man.

He almost never looks to stand tall anymore, but the difference is he use to tower over average height people even while slouching. Assume Alan Light's 5'10.5" claim was in shoes: Click Here That shows both how bad his posture is now and how much height he's lost compared to 1990. Here's Dolph actually standing tall(but further from the camera) around 1985 with 5'8" Grace Jones: Click Here I just don't understand how people doubt Dolph was 193 cm in the 80's and 90's.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 24/Aug/18
Strange that Brandon Routh look a bit taller than Tom Welling with Rob and Welling look an inch taller than Lundgren with Rob and they're all listed a deads on 6'2 1/2.
nymph said on 23/Aug/18
Unless he has some serious bone issues I doubt such a fit guy has lost 5 cm already at 60, so one either the peak or current height must be wrong
berta said on 23/Aug/18
Click Here in this swedish interview he mentions david hasselhoff and call the hoff taller than him. At 4:50. It would be interesting to know what height dolph think the hoff is. I guess dolph maybe still think he is the 191,5 cm he was measured 2010
Editor Rob
He probably met the Hoff and looked up at him!
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Aug/18
Brion James is listed 6'2.5" here and wasn't close to Dolph's height in Red Scorpion(1988). Here's a timestamp: Click Here And Dolph looked taller than Seagal did in the 90's with 6'8"(?) Scott L. Schwartz, a.k.a. "Ultimate Bad Guy": Click Here Dolph looks to have a normal 1.25" type boot and looks 3.5" max shorter while Seagal apparently had cowboy boots and looks a minimum 4" shorter. With 6'2.5" listed Michael Rapaport in 1995: Click Here Nothing under 6'4" peak. He's lost A LOT of height.
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Aug/18
6'2.5" absolute minimum unless he's lost more height the last year or two. It seems you can only get an idea of his real height when he stands next to other tall men, though his posture is still always loose.

With 6'0.75" listed Chuck Liddell the same year as Big Jay's photo: Click Here (Dolph with at least a half inch more footwear, but bad posture as usual looks at least 2.5" taller considering Rob estimated Dolph has a 10"-10.25" head and naturally a big eye to head. I'm going to attempt to post premiere video from Getty, which supports this: Click Here

With 6'0.5" listed Michael Jai White the same year as Rob's photo: Click Here He looks to have a slight footwear advantage, but he has visibly worse posture and may be at a ground/tilt disadvantage yet still looks over 2" taller. This shows he's still taller than 6'2.25" listed Terry Crews with similar dress boots at the same event: Click Here And you can see he's slouching and looks like he might be bending his knees.
viper said on 9/Aug/18
Could be 6-1 range
Msn1'87 said on 7/Aug/18
Honestly, Dolph looks no more than 6’1 flat with Jay. And perhaps 6’1.75 if he stood straight with Rob.
Pierre said on 6/Aug/18
Imo he looks around 6"1.5' by this too pics next to Big Jay or Rob
tree said on 5/Aug/18
I didn't know what the casting call was for and I just showed up, they asked me how tall I was, I said 6ft5in and they said "Next!"
Thats funny,i imagine him walking there confidently cuz he is very tall and muscular and then when he proudly says he is 6FT5, NEXT
Jim hoppa said on 5/Aug/18
Not a legit 6-5 prime. More like 6-4 or 6-3.5 prime imo.
Batistataker said on 2/Aug/18
In the 2005 movie ''The Mechanik'' as a retired Russian Special Forces soldier Nikolai "Nick" Cherenko he looked 189cm. He lost a cm due to age perhaps.
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Aug/18
I'd be fine with a 6'4" flat listing and we know he was definitely no taller than that by 2005. With that said, out of all the guys right around the 6'4" mark who get argued a bit above it, I think Dolph was the most likely to have actually been taller and if Dolph was never more than 193 cm then there's really no way Brandon Lee was 182 cm because he was a good 5" shorter so Brandon would need a flat 5'11" listing to match up. A lot of formerly 6'4" guys look a lot shorter these days like Jeff Goldblum and Liam Neeson.
Jordan87 said on 1/Aug/18
I would bet Canson would be 100 Percent Taller than Dolph in his prime. Dolph was never over 6'4.
Rising - 174 cm said on 16/Jul/18
@Canson: I'd guess you'd be almost identical in height to an 80's Dolph and have to agree on 193 cm at his low as the most likely guess since it could explain the 195 cm claim as an early measurement or perhaps in thin boxing footwear and he did look about an inch shorter than Tiny Lister in behind the scenes for Universal Soldier. He also claimed 193 cm around 2005 so either he lost a bit of height by his late 40's or he was always a 193 cm guy. As for height loss, he supposedly also injured his back lifting around the time of Rocky 4. Agreed about Moeller. Although he wasn't as big as the guys you mention, Carl Weathers was roughly Arnie's height at a legit 6'1" and peaked 226 pounds so you'd expect him to have lost noticeable height from football, lifting and stunts, yet he's arguably still close to his peak height at age 70! Dolph is also supposed to have said he shrunk to about 191.5 cm on a European TV show around the time of the first 2 Expendables. He still looked 6'3" minimum then when standing straight, but posture has been the big problem estimating Dolph's height the last decade. If we can determine how close to 6'4" Florian Munteanu is then we might be able to get a good idea of Dolph's present height. Dolph does dwarf Montell Williams in most scenes in The Peacemaker(1997) and literally bends forward to shake Roy Scheider's hand and still towers him by half a head making Scheider look like the 5'8" guy he was by the late 90's. I don't know how tall Montell is/was, but I do have an impossible time seeing Brandon Lee a full 182 cm and Lou Gossett Jr. a full 6'3" if Dolph was only a 6'4" flat guy or 193 cm as seems pretty likely even though Gossett could have lost some height by his early 50's.
Canson said on 14/Jul/18
@MrTBlack: I wouldn’t rule that out either. And maybe a medium, I think he may have been a guy like me who woke up a solid 6’5” in his prime and got down to 6’4.25 at a low like me or perhaps even a touch over 6’5. I would say out of bed would range 6’4.75 (worst case) to maybe 6’5 1/4 (absolute best case) and be 6’4 and change on the regular.

@Rising: I agree with you on him as well. I think he’s just conceded to severe height loss over his lifetime which is consistent with may of the bigger bodybuilders. Another example is Arnold. The only one I’ve seen who has maintained his height remarkably well is Ralph Moeller. He looked close to 6’6 maybe 6’5.5 peak (197ish cm) perhaps even a hair more or less than 6’5.5 and still looks as if he is at least 6’5 today maybe even still a strong 6’5. I can say rob has him listed about as well as you could. I could also say Ferrigno but I am unclear as to how tall he really was at his peak. I don’t buy that he was a legit 6’4” prob 6’3” range peak and 6’2”ish today is how he looks to tell you the truth.
James B 171.5cm said on 3/Jul/18
At least hes holding up better than hulk hogan and david prowse
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Jul/18
@Duhon: Yes, you can see in the quote at the bottom, Dolph says he stood on a box. Although he only mentions scenes with Stallone, he must have done this with Weathers as well. Dolph could often look taller than he was back then for whatever reason, but seeing him struggle with 6'3" at 60 even with a double hip replacement makes me think he must have been shorter than he looked in most of his films. I pretty much completely agree with MrTBlack, James B and MAD SAM on Dolph. Nowadays, he can look shorter than he is due to his large head and tendency to slouch a lot, especially with people well under the 6' mark.
Duhon said on 1/Jul/18
He may have been around the 6'4" mark but surely he was made to look taller than 6'4" in Rocky 4?
MAD SAM said on 29/Jun/18
Looked 6’4” in Rocky 4 but gonna give him the benifit of a quarter inch at 193.5 cm, looks a 189.5-190 cm guy these days
James B 171.5cm said on 21/Jun/18
6ft4 1/8 peak
MrTBlack said on 16/Jun/18
@Canson

Agreed. I think he could have been 6’4.5” at peak but no less than a solid 6’4”. I always thought that 6’5” and 6’6” seemed too high for him even when I was 14. Now and days I think anywhere from 6’2.5-6’3” is arguable.
Neelasish Sen Roy said on 15/Jun/18
Now he is 6'3" but his peak height is 6'4.25".
Rising - 174 cm said on 15/Jun/18
Dolph looked massive in Red Scorpion, even when barefoot. I don't know how tall M. Emmett Walsh was(I seem to remember him taller than Chuck Norris in Missing in Action) but even though he's a guy who often doesn't stand straight, he didn't seem like he'd reach much higher than Dolph's nose. Btw, Walsh is always a great character actor. Dolph's other co-star Al White is listed at 6'2" on the internet, but he's noticeably shorter than Dolph so I don't know where that listing originates from. In any case, I can't see Dolph any less than 193 cm in those days.
Rising - 174 cm said on 5/Jun/18
@Robinson: Well, when Arnold was Dolph's current age, Rob listed him at 6'0" with a peak listing of 6'1.5" so that's a similar loss. A height loss survey conducted from the late 50's through the early 90's showed that out of roughly 1,000 men, the average loss by age 60 was 0.8" so if you consider Dolph at 6'4" was much taller than the average man of about 5'9", even an inch loss would be very normal. Then you consider Dolph's injuries such as the torn ligaments while filming Missionary Man over a decade ago and the double hip replacement last year and a 3, even 4 cm loss starts to make sense. Hulk Hogan has lost a lot more height than Dolph due to surgeries and had lost a lot of it by his late 40's/early 50's. As I said, I think it's possible Dolph went from 193 cm peak to 190 cm today so a 3 cm loss while large would not be surprising all things considered.
Robinson said on 3/Jun/18
Incredible height loss.
I can't believe that people bone structure can shrunk that much.Is it even possible?
My grandfather lost 1-1.5cm at age of 78.
In expendables I see him at 190cm atleast that appearing.
Rocky 4...legit 6"4 guy by any means.
Long arms,long torso,really akward to see such a height loss..but yeh..happens.
Rising - 174 cm said on 29/May/18
He was definitely closer to 6'4" than 6'5" in his prime and I think Rob's listing is about right. Could very well have been just a 193 cm or 6'4" flat guy, but he looked taller than a guy like Seagal did back then and he didn't wear the heeled boots Seagal did. He was still at least 6'3" when he filmed the first 2 Expendables and if he stood straight, there would still be a better chance of measuring 6'3" flat than 6'2" flat. I think this 6'2.5" listing is the lowest he could be, but he's looking like he'd be lucky to hit the full 6'3" even with his big head and poor posture. I still think 190 cm or weak 6'3" range is likely. He tore ligaments doing a stunt for Missionary Man(2007) and that may have hastened his height loss.
Miiiiiiighty_- said on 26/May/18
Just fell on " King Rising 2 " on TV a few days ago : hard to believe how much he has shrunk..
And his posture and movements/agility are awful.. He moves like he had serious surgeries ( hip replacement ? ) .. Seriously I was shocked.. He looks like a 70 years old and was only 54 back then..

He seems to have a major case of hunchback too, a la Clint..

He looks around 6'2.5 there but he seems to not be able to stand tall..
And what's crazy is that I just rewatched " The red scorpion " today, one of his action films from late 80's and he was A LOT taller..
He has a good 5-6cm at least on Brion James in this film.

I think ( for I met him at a kyokushin karate seminar in 1999 ) that he was 194 or 195 in his prime.
Remember he mentionned both in French magazines back then.. ( 194cm 108kg from what I recall which is 6'4.5" 240 )..

Really crazy height loss, but I think a good chunk of it is actually due to his HORRIBLE posture ( the rest probably being linked to injuries/surgeries) , like you mentionned Rob, Eastwoodesque as he was a strong 6'4.5 if not borderline 6'5 back in his prime...

What is strange, also, is that I remember him towering most cast members at the Expendables 2 premiere, and also being noticeably taller than Crews back then, so probably 6'3..
Looks like he has lost some height quite fast..
Canson said on 23/May/18
@MrTBlack: the 6’5.5 was likely a shoe height. I can buy him being a solid or even a strong 6’4 like Rob lists him in his peak. Today I still think he’s 189cm. Some are saying he’s under 6’2 but I think if he stood straight he could easily get 189-189.5. Maybe at a pinch a weak 6’3” today still. But that’s the norm for many of the bigger body builders. The only one that doesn’t look like he’s lost any noticeable height is Ralph Moeller. He always appeared to be 197cm imho and today likely isn’t less than maybe 196 range
Jordan87 said on 21/May/18
@ Ken C,

Lets say Dolph is around 6'2 on a good day nowadays, The actor playing his son looks around an 1" Taller in many shots I have seen so 6'3 is possible, not a shock is gets 6'4 listings.

To be honest this Kid is alot bigger than Dolph Was even in his day when he played Drago.

I am not sure how 175 Pounds Michael C. Jordan is going to fight this kid in Creed 2. Florian Munteanu his name is, and with a height of roughly 6'3 and a frame like that he is at the very least 230 pounds.

I do not see them in the same weight class.

When Dolph fought Carl Carl was around 6'1 and 224 as per his own admission ( the weight), and Dolph was Between 230 and 240 during the FIlming of Rocky 4 so there was not that much size between them.
MrTBlack said on 20/May/18
@Canson

Agreed. He even claimed 193cms on a Swedish TV show. He did claim 6’5.5” in the late 80s but that was during his peak.
berta said on 16/May/18
it would be interesting to see ryan reynolds and dolph back to back today. they could be roughly the same. but dolph is probably very legit 189 while ryan is couple mm under
KenC said on 13/May/18
actor who plays his son is a liar about height too. lol
florian munteanu 6'4"??

Click Here
KenC said on 13/May/18
wow

I really thought this guy was 6'5" back in the day

Now i see there was no way
Jordan87 said on 10/May/18
@ Bazza,

Check Rob's Quote from Dolph Himself.

" Whatever it is, there's a big difference between us. But still, to make the difference seem even greater, he had me stand on a box sometimes."

The Man was likely not over 6'4.
Jordan87 said on 7/May/18
@ Bazza,

Nah I think he could have been right at 6'4. 6'3.5 to 6'4. SOmething like 6'4.5 means he would have to loose around 2+ Inches on height if we go by the pics provided to us here by Rob ( Thank God for this guy) and Big J.
Mark D. said on 6/May/18
It's probably a combinations of shoes, and Stallone instructing all press releases exaggerate Dolph's height during the time of the movie. I'd say 6'3.5" peak, possibly 6'3". With shoes on, 6'4 - 6'5" or averaged out to 6'4.5". Add an inch and you get the 6'5.5" we heard often. Clearly 2-3 inches shorter than 6'4.5" Conan when he was on his show. No major hip surgery, or spine issues, no reason he'd lose several inches as he's not old enough for osteoporosis. His height was exaggerated from the beginning.
Bazza said on 4/May/18
If he wasn't at least 6'4 in rocky 4 then the camera work was truly outstanding.
Jordan87 said on 3/May/18
@Richie,

"As Rob has had the privilege of meeting Lundgren, i would say the estimation concerning his peak height and size today, is more than likely accurate"

Yeah and with Big Jay he looks 6'1" nowadays, that's 0-2 for Lundgren being over 6'4 as a prime height. There are two pictures posted here with Lundgren......look again.

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