How tall is Arnold Schwarzenegger - Page 27

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Average Guess (739 Votes)
Peak: 6ft 1.06in (185.6cm)
Current: 5ft 11.18in (180.8cm)
Danimal said on 19/Jan/06
Since when was there a consensus 16 year old guy? I don't think Arnold was 6'0". He was at least 6'1", seeing Reg Park was 6'2": http://ironage.us/gallery/bodybuilders/park.jpg
Danimal said on 18/Jan/06
1974 Mr. Olympia with Lou Ferrigno and Arnold: http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/994433/1850393/23562703.jpg

This is what I commented on just below.
Danimal said on 18/Jan/06
Take into account that Joe Weider was 5'10" and wearing shoes... Arnold was 6'1"-6'2" and Lou was 6'4"-6'5".
6 foot 1, 16, still growing said on 17/Jan/06
You guys have done a good job with this one. arnie is no 6 foot 2 guy. he's 6 foot. good job.
Buster said on 17/Jan/06
Arnold was clearly around the same height as 6'1" Reg Park.

Steve has been smoking crack if he honestly thinks 5'9"
Danimal said on 16/Jan/06
UK Terminator fan, I think you're mistaken? I was the one who provided those 3 pics...BTW, Arnold was NO less than 6'0". Also, I think Jone is a guy, not a girl! I may be wrong though ;).
UK Terminator fan said on 16/Jan/06
Excellent picture Jason. A barefoot extremely, muscular, youthful Arnold looked no more than 5ft 11.5.

The only height growth Arnold managed from there was his choice of footwear.

A picture of Arnold in barefeet with definite 6ft ers does not lie.

Jone u r one crazy gall!!!
Gramps said on 16/Jan/06
Danimal, did you notice that Arnold was the SAME height as Draper in your first photo? Now, realizing that the angle in your second photo is detrimental to Arnold, doesn't he nevertheless look a bit puny compared to the other two guys? I'd have to give Arnold >6'0" but <6'1". Whatcha think Danimal? (BTW, Rob is right, I believe 6'1" is correct for Reg.)

Jason said on 16/Jan/06
Reg Park was most probably 6'0'' and change given there's also a 6'0'' listing for him, as well.
Viper652 said on 15/Jan/06
"Hey viper, what do you think of a 5'11 1/2'' peak height for Arnold?"

That is probably right Jason.
Danimal said on 15/Jan/06
Gramps, GREAT pic! I've never seen that one before. My question to you is where exactly are you getting 6'0 1/2" for Reg Park? He is both listed as 6'1" and 6'2". You are accurate in stating that Dave Draper was in fact 6'0".

Here is a pic taken from the early seventies with 6'0" Dave Draper and 6'1" "Big" Mike Katz and Arnold of course: http://davedraper.com/photo-katz-arnold.html

Here's a pic with 6'0" Dave Draper, 6'1"-6'2" Reg Park and Arnold: http://davedraper.com/photo-park-draper-front.html

Dave Draper with 6'0" Serge Nubret (note: Dave is in shoes, hence the 1"+ height difference.: http://davedraper.com/photo-draper-nubret.html

[Editor Rob: it's been mentioned before. Park has gone onrecord as saying he was measured 6ft 1. Was he the kind of guy to lie about his height? I've no idea...]
Gramps said on 15/Jan/06
So I guess Arnold grew a few inches since his twenties, following this photo of him with the 6'0.5" Reg Park and the 6'0" Dave Draper?
http://davedraper.com/draper-park-arnold.jpg
Jason said on 15/Jan/06
6'3'' in shoes there is pushing it. 6'2'' maybe. Personally, I'm starting to believe Arnold really was 5'11 1/2'', which would see him at 6'2'' in shoes with lifts and make him appear a 6'1'' guy.
elio said on 15/Jan/06
Danimal,
In Jone's defense, I think the 'being in a plane' story belonged to someone else, not Jone. :)

Personally, my favourite was when he said Arnold had been measured with a tape measure that had the first two inches cut off the end of the tape measure, making him seem two inches smaller! :) . I don't think he thought the logic of that one through.


Glenn,
He looks to be standing as high as 6'3" in shoes in the pic of you two (despite you being slightly further back). Would he really be able to walk properly in lifts that give about 5 inches of extra height (if he was 5'10")?
Danimal said on 15/Jan/06
Jone, you've been on a plane with Arnold several times? You have seen him on the beach. You cousin measured him personally in a storage room in 1982 and now you workout with him too? Do you actually believe your own stories. More importantly, how do you expect us too? You are the only person in the world, including Arnold himself, who states that Arnold is 6'4", YET, you give men like The Undertaker as less height than Arnold???
Glenn said on 15/Jan/06
ive heard 5-10 as well.possible.he was big in 1992.lifts?
notadumbass said on 15/Jan/06
arnold does not wear risers and i have seen him in several pictures and on tv and videos where he stands next to people 5'10 and he looks at least a few inches taller then those people, he is 6'2 for for, i remember he stood next to a 5'11 man he he looked considerably taller, btw dont u people ahve a life stop talkin about this
Antony said on 14/Jan/06
Jone, i cant believe we have such a difference of opinion. he is only 5ft 10. I stood next to him 2 years ago, said hello and shook his hand. Im 5ft 10 too, hes no taller than me.
Gramps said on 14/Jan/06
For you guys unfamiliar with Jone, you should know he went to high school with Arnold ijn Austria, was Arnold's coach and training partner during his Mr. Olympia years, appeared in all his movies as Arnold's stunt man, and now serves as Arnold's Border Security Czar for the State of California. He bodyguards and measures Arnold in his spare time. At least in the World According to Jone.
Antony said on 13/Jan/06
Im 5ft 10 inches tall, i shook hands with Arnie at a film premiere, trust me hes 5ft 10.
elio said on 13/Jan/06
The pic with stallone looks like it might be more than 2 inches to me. More like 3.

Either way... stallone has been seen standing almost exact height as 6'1 listend Denzel Washington (6'0 on here). So Stallone could be around 5'11/6'0 with 'shoes' on. Add 2-3" for Arnold and it paints a picture of Arnold standing 6'2"-6'3" in shoes. You have to remember that someone who stands 6'3" in shoes will only look as if they're 6'1"-6'2" to everyone else.
Anonymous said on 13/Jan/06
Well, Jone, here's Arnold with Stallone, and only about 2" separating them:
http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1116994885.93974.jpg
TheMan said on 13/Jan/06
About Steve Austin he's almost deffently lost some height in the 6 years of the mugshot. How much is the question?
Cobra said on 13/Jan/06
Everyone can see that Arnold in the picture with Glenn (and its not his peak height) is for sure 6ft2 or 6ft1,5.
Jason said on 13/Jan/06
Hey viper, what do you think of a 5'11 1/2'' peak height for Arnold?
Jason said on 13/Jan/06
Actually, I reckon if you did a search you'd find some proof steroids can shrink people. Steroids can indeed affect bone integrity, so it only seems logical they can lead to shrinkage. Of course, it would depend on the amounts used.
Danimal said on 12/Jan/06
Jone, you're quite the comedian. Ever consider taking your routine on the road ;). BTW, there is no conclusive medical evidence to prove that steroids shrink people..Age, surgeries, poor posture and perhaps very HEAVY weightlifting will contribute, but NOT steroids. They have other side effects. Do your research Jone and seriously consider stand up as a new profession.I believe it's your NEW calling ;).
OnCapeCod said on 12/Jan/06
5'11". That's it. It's CRAZY how insane people get here.
elio said on 12/Jan/06
Jone,

Arnold showed you his hollowed out shoes that time when he went on a camping trip with you and your cousin in the mountains of Austria. Then he proved that he was 6'6" by extending his neck fully (he has a retractable neck... like a tortoise). To end the night you all took 'shrinking pills' (TM) over the campfire, whilst toasting marshmellows.
Jason said on 12/Jan/06
http://www.celebheights.com/s/Leonardo-DiCaprio-15.html

Glenn said Arnold always looked 6'2'' to him. Weird. That pic is from 1992.
Anshelm said on 11/Jan/06
To Jone: I'm 180 cm (5'11"), my dad's 164 cm (5'4
Rodney said on 11/Jan/06
Arnold doesn't need enhanced footwear. He is already 6-2, so why would he need them?
dmeyer said on 11/Jan/06
i think arnie was 187 188 cm at his peak and 6'1" nowadays i just saw a pic of arnie and sly who is 5'9 or 10 and arnie looked 3 to 4 inches taller so arnie is of corse no shorter than 6' or 6'1" also he looks 6 inches taller than glenn so he is 6'1" aleast also if he pretends to be 6'2" it means he has to be near it
Jason said on 11/Jan/06
Standard wrestling boots don't add 2 1/2'' to your height. Knowing Arnold, he probably demanded that no wrestlers he's in the ring with wore big boots or lifts (and wore them himself).
elio said on 11/Jan/06
Bizarre how Arnold can be at least 2" taller than Steve Austin and yet Arnold is listed as 6'0" (with many people trying to get him downgraded further) and Austin is listed as 6'1.5".

So Austin was wearing a 1" shoe and Arnold was wearing a 4.5" shoe?

http://www.schwarzenegger-arnold.de/news/wwf111153arnold.jpg

Better still, let's say Arnold is 5'10 like some people are trying to make him and then he's wearing shoes that had 6 and a half inches in height.

Or howabout Arnold is 5'10 and Austin was wearing a standard 2.5" wrestling boot. Arnold would need 8 inch shoes to become 2 inches taller than a 6'1.5" Austin in this case.

( PS - download the video to this off a p2p program and you'll see this difference in height is consistant all the way through - A DEFINATE MINIMUM OF 2 INCHES betwen Arnold and 6'1.5" listed Steve Austin)

Bear in mind, Austin's mugshot PROVED that he stood at 6'2.5" inches in UNKNOWN shoes ... he may be smaller. But a realistic minimum would be 5'11.5" (3" shoes)

[Editor Rob: yeah, this was 6 years ago...Austin's height has been slowly creeping down in 1/2 inch measures...with the recent comparisons he is starting to lose height faster than Clint Eastwood!

The mugshot - Depending on how close to the wall and the height of the camera the range could be 6ft - 6ft 2.5. Actually it's more deceptive than most of us probably think...]
Gramps said on 11/Jan/06
I have seen too many pics of Arnold looking short (<6') that I believe his "tall" photos result from enhanced footwear. Arnold has so much invested in his size, I think it would be a terrible blow to his ego and reputation if it came out that he was really 5'11". Think about it - - how can you have a 5'11" Governator, or worse yet, a 5'11" Terminator! (BTW, I do believe he was just a bit over 6'0" in the '70s, perhaps approaching 6'1" - - but no more!)
Danimal said on 11/Jan/06
316, Check out HillbillyJim.com. I can't get enough of that site...Some AMAZING and SHOCKING PICS of Hulk Hogan next to Hillbilly and you will see the severe height loss...

Back on track though, Stone Cold ain't no 6'1" my man. He's lucky if he's 6'0"..Arnold's about the same..He must have been wearing lifts..
316 said on 10/Jan/06
Danimal, how can u be so sure that Lou is shorter than 6'4, havent u seen his pics next to the 6'2 eric bana, he clearly had atleast 2.5" on him, plus gettin bak to ur other point about lou being shorter than Hogan, we cant determine that accurately jus by seeing those pics posted, coz in some of them even Lou looks slightly taller or equal in height to Hogan.
Now coming back to Arnold, chek out this pic of him standing next to 6'1 stone cold steve austin, do u think arnold is shorter than stone cold, i think not.
http://www.schwarzenegger-arnold.de/news/wwf111153arnold.jpg
Jason said on 10/Jan/06
Not really. Glenn is a long way back. What's Glenn's estimate of Arnold's height?? Rob, did he give you one?

[Editor Rob: I don't think he did...]
Danimal said on 9/Jan/06
316, Lou can NO LONGER be 6'4"-6'4 1/2" guy that he once was. Please understand that Pumping Iron is 30 years old man. Hogan is taller than Lou today and Hogan is NO taller than 6'4" himself..
316 said on 9/Jan/06
Ill agree for the moment that Arnold is 6' . However, all u guys cant deny the fact that Lou Ferrigno is definately in that 6'4-6'4.5" range . In Pumping Iron, in the breakfast scene where both Lou and arnold shake hands, there is a minimum 2-2.5" difference between them. Also towards the end of the movie, when Arnold and Lou work out(both barefeet, there is definately nothing more than the above mentioned height difference between them. So i definately feel frm that evidence that Arnold was indeed 6'1.5 to 6'2" in his prime, possibly 6'0.5" now.
elio said on 5/Jan/06
Lou was only described as being 6'8 by Butler in the 2002 retrospective documentary on the making of Pumping Iron ... NOT in 1974!
Jason said on 5/Jan/06
So, Lou's shrunk 6 inches since then, Jone?
Jason said on 5/Jan/06
I never said they did measure him, Danimal...
elio said on 5/Jan/06
TheMan,

Yeah, Lou Ferrigno was described as 6'8" by George Butler, the director of Pumping Iron in the documentary on Pumping Iron, 'Raw Iron'. In the actual film he is listed as 6'5" though.

Everyone I know who's watched 'Raw Iron' spotted the 6'8" blunder.
Danimal said on 5/Jan/06
Jason, I have as hard a time believing that the source you got Hogan's peak height from, measured him either.
Jason said on 5/Jan/06
I don't think Guiness actually measured him. Didn't Guiness also say he had 22.5'' biceps? *wrings hand* :)
TheMan said on 4/Jan/06
I belive he is 6,1 maybe he never was 6,2 i was watching pumping iron and there was a guy who said lou furrigno was 6,8 lol. Anyone ever see that, one of the funniest things i ever saw?
elio said on 4/Jan/06
Jone,

... YOU DO REALISE that if you cut the first two inches from a tape measure it would actually make you two inches TALLER.

There's no need to make up bogus stories to illustrate that measurements can be flawed.

I will say this though, I've measured myself on a number of height charts over the years, and i'd never noticed any greater than a +/- 0.5" difference in my height on these. But there's a new height chart stand at my local gym and it's 1 1/2 inches off. In fact, it's part of the reason why i've been so obsessed about height (like most people here are) for the past couple of months. I was 'downgraded' by this inch and a half, and so was my friend. Since then i've bought two tapemeasures and have repetively measured myself under strict conditions. Every time i measure myself I'm the original height I thought I was (1 1/2" taller than the one at the gym)... but for some stupid reason, I need to keep proving to myself that i've still got that extra 1 1/2". I've not mentioned it to the people running the gym, because I don't think they'll believe me unless I prove it to them. In which case they'll just think I'm a weirdo with a fascination with height (which, thanks to them... is now true).

Anyway, my point is that even expensive looking measuring equipment can be flawed.
Gotxo said on 4/Jan/06
Jone, that is so unbelivable...How do you think things are made in real life? The Empire State, microprocessors & such? It has no use to sell a tapemeasure that don't measures at all (maybe it tapes? :P) They probably used a Stadiometer, a rigid column of metal that has attached a small bar perpendicular to it that goes up and down trouhgh it axis, thus the person gets trapped between the base and this flat tool measuring it perfectly.
Gotxo said on 4/Jan/06
I agree with Danimal, i read once that he was already 180cm at his sixteen and 185cm & over 100 kg in his eighteens. With 19 he was the youngest finalist of MR.Universe in London (he almost defeated Chester Yorton). It's unlikely that if he had any further growth potential he could deployed it under such circumstances. (sorry i ignore the sorce, the same as Danimal i suposse)
Danimal said on 4/Jan/06
Elio, as I have previously mentioned on here, Arnold was listed as being 6'1" in the early eighties, when he was featured in the Guiness Book of World's Records. At that point, he was in his early to mid 30's and it is rare that the GBOWR would make a mistake with a measurement. They are quite meticulous.
elio said on 4/Jan/06
KEG, I am happy now :) I'm definately more inclined to believe you. The thing is, if you say he was about 5'11. That would mean that in the above pic with Glenn, he would be only 3" taller than him.

I see no evidence of slouching, but Glenn is definately further back from Arnold, and that obviously makes a difference. Either way, Arnold can't be standing any less than 6" taller than Glenn (e.g top of Glenn's head comes a fraction below Arnold's eyes. You'll also notice that Arnold's head is tilted down towards the left too, so Arnold's eyeline is on level with his right eye. (note that tilting you head cannot make an eye appear higher... only lower)

I conclude that in my opinion:

Arnold was 6'1 1/2" in his prime (20s), and rounded up to 6'2.
Arnold was 6'1" by 1990 (possible spinal compression due to back exercise)
Arnold is 6'0" now (further 1" lost naturally due to age)

I also think that Arnold wears what could be considered 'evevator' shoes, but not lifts. I'd guesstimate the height increase he gets is about an inch more than a standard 1.25" shoe. Seeing that he is constantly on the move (view his governor website to see the amount of visits he does), I can't see him wearing the Herman Munster style 3+" shoes which are easy to notice, tricky to walk in, and uncomfortable (even if custom made).

However, like Jason, I am interested in hearing what Glenn has to say on this.
Jason said on 4/Jan/06
What's Glenn's take on Arnold's height??
UK Terminator fan said on 4/Jan/06
You may have a point Elio, picture one could maybe point out a slight error in my statement. However Ronny Cox is leaning against something in picture 2 and Arnold is standing up straight.

Goxto couldn't agree with you more there are certainly scenes in which Arnold does look 1-2 inches shorter.
Gotxo said on 4/Jan/06
Elio i must confirm you that in several scenes of Total Recall Arnold seems taller than Cox, but are the close shots. The most subject ones to "treatment". When the camera is not so close to actors (& we see more of their bodies) Arnold can look near 2" smaller than him.
Viper652 said on 4/Jan/06
It also looks like Glenn could be slouching as well.
Jason said on 3/Jan/06
lmao @ those who don't realize Glenn is further back than Arnold. Give your heads a shake people!
KEG said on 3/Jan/06
OK elio, it was at the Arnold Classic in Columbus Ohio in 1993. I was there as a spectator. He was there as Arnold. I didn't say anything beyond "nice to meet you". I'm 6'2" and he was, in my best estimate, 5'11". Happy now?
elio said on 3/Jan/06
UK Terminator fan, you say that:

'As I said before I believe Arnold to have been 5ft 11.5 bare foot. And if u calcualte this 5ft 11.5 + 1 inch = 6ft 0.5 and 6ft 2 - 1.5 = 6ft 0.5. '

If Ronny Cox is 6'2" ... he'd be standing at just over 6'3" with normal shoes (he wore shoes in the movie).

if Arnold IS 5'11 1/2", he would need to be wearing shoes that give about 2 1/2" extra height.

I seem to remember Cox only being about an inch taller ( in the part where they stand next to each other on the video recording at the end of the movie) , but can't find any shots of this. I've posted links to the only ones I can find:

http://www.homevideos.com/freezeframes918/totalrecall159.jpeg
http://www.americanphoto.co.jp/pages/movie/TO/Previews/Plans-38252.jpg
Gotxo said on 3/Jan/06
Lol, thnx to god for existing guys as Mikex, is he the only to note that?
Just apply common sense, isn't it easier to explain miraculous shrinkages due to the fact that stars boost their height obligued by their contracts or egos?
Leave the stories of shrinking guys to Richard Matheson. :P
Mikex said on 3/Jan/06
There seem to be lots of posts about guys shrinking with age. Men tend not to lose much height until their 60s/70s and even then it generally won't be much more than an inch though some men apparently lose 2 inches. The idea of a guy going from 6'2'' in his 30s to 6' in his 50s is wrong. If any height is lost in that period it's probably no more than a cm.
Viper652 said on 3/Jan/06
Arnold is between 5-10-5-11 barefoot There are just to many sightings of him about 6-1 people towering over him. You dont get that with guys like Hugh Jackman, Eric Bana, real tall guys.
Cobra said on 3/Jan/06
With The Rock:
http://www.dwaynejohnsonfever.net/PhotoGallery/displayimage.php?album=467&pos=0
Zach said on 3/Jan/06
Arnie looks a solid 6'2 there with Glenn
elio said on 3/Jan/06
KEG, don't take this the wrong way, but the old 'I randomly met arnold years ago, shook his hand and was looking down to him' stories such as your version don't seem to have any substance to them.

If you want anyone to believe you, you should explain WHERE you met him, why you were there, why he was there, what you said, what he said, etc.

Otherwise you just end up looking like one of the many 'liars' on these boards, even if you are telling the truth.
Anonymous said on 3/Jan/06
arni looks 6'4" near glenn
UK Terminator fan said on 3/Jan/06
Arnold has never looked short - i've never known someone to be 5ft 11/6ft to be short. However someone standing at 6ft 2/6ft 3 looks very tall.

And from all the pictures and from seeing him on TV unless he was wearing big heeled boots he didn't appear as 'very' tall. The Terminator films and Last Action Hero he was wearing big heels and most probably lifts giving the impression of being 6ft 2/ 6ft 3.

However as Goxto says he looked shorter than 6ft 2 Ronny Cox - i believe there was a clear 1.5 inch difference - his footwear in the film were regulation 1 inch heel boots.

As I said before I believe Arnold to have been 5ft 11.5 bare foot. And if u calcualte this 5ft 11.5 + 1 inch = 6ft 0.5 and 6ft 2 - 1.5 = 6ft 0.5.

But I don't consdier 180 - 185cm to be in anyways short.
KEG said on 3/Jan/06
I was close enough to Arnold to shake hands with him about a dozen years ago. I am on the upper side of 6'2" was comfortably taller than him. My best estimate of his height is 5'11".
Joseph said on 2/Jan/06
you are all wrong... Arnie is 188cm (6ft2") when he stands straight. og course he looks shorter now.. he`s older.. but everybody has the same height their hole lifes from they are aldults, when they stand straight of course.
Marc said on 2/Jan/06
He is certainly 6'0" ( could be 6'1") because at the Wax Museum i was only about 2 inches shorter (I'm 5'10") since my eye level was was just below his and the top of my head was at close to his hairline.
Gotxo said on 2/Jan/06
Cobra Kristanna Loker is 5'11" a regular women heel gives 2" not 3". Plus he looks smaller than Ronny Cox (6'2") in Total Recall, watch again that film.
Anonymous said on 2/Jan/06
I think this pic isn't good to prove nothing.the distance is really enormous,moreover Arnie could have lifts.In all cases my trainer who is 180 cm for sure said to me he saw Arnie in a planet hollywood some years ago and he appeared huge,190 cm.I think in his prime he was 185 and now something under 183
elio said on 2/Jan/06
Glenn doesn't seem to be slouching to me, far from it.

And although he is behind them both, it's not by much as he has his arms around their backs. There can't be any less than 6" between them. More likely 7"-8" as I have already said.
CoolJ said on 2/Jan/06
People.. People... Glenn is about a foot back in the picture.

Nevertheless, Arnold does look huge in comparison to Glenn. A good 6'1...

I wonder if Glenn is actually 173cm on the button or was he not done growing in that pic (not sure how old he is there). Should also consider footwear..
Anonymous said on 2/Jan/06
Glen is further back in that pic.

Cobra: you could just as fairly question Arnold's footware. ;)
elio said on 2/Jan/06
Well it certainly looks like Arnold was definately above 5'10" in 1990 doesn't it?

I'd guess Glenn comes up roughly to the bottom of Arnold's nose in that pic. If Glenn's wearing a ~1" shoe then Arnold is standing at about 5'9" + 7-8" (Bottom of Arnold's nose to the top of his head). Which means with 'shoes' he was around the 6'3.5" mark. I think it's highly unlikely Arnold was wearing a shoe that gave him anymore than 3 inches of extra height.

So I put arnold around the 6'1.5" mark from this photo (in 1990 at least).

For Arnold to have been 5'10" he'd need to have been wearing shoes that give him 5-6" of extra height! Ridiculous!

Cobra said on 2/Jan/06
Here Arnold looks definately taller than Kristanna:

http://morgenpost.berlin1.de/images/2003/07/15/feuilleton/71074_normal.jpg
Cobra said on 2/Jan/06
Arnold really look huge in this pic.
@ Jason, Kristanna is wearing the shoes all women wear. ;)
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funkmonk said on 2/Jan/06
that Glenn image is interesting. I really though Arnold was 5'11" now and 6' prime. He 'seems' bigger here. BUT Glen is standing begin Arnold so would look shorter than normal and is he slouching?
Gotxo said on 2/Jan/06
He has more than 4" on Glenn i must admit. Perhaps he really is closer to 6'1". But again he has acted in films with 6'2" stars and was smaller, was he wearing odd footwear there?
Jason said on 2/Jan/06
http://www.japantoday.com/dbfiles/picture/termin.3F4.jpg

Arnold looking the exact same height as 5'11'' Kristanna Loken.
Gramps said on 31/Dec/05
Jone: when Editor Rob pokes fun at your statements, you should know it's time for a change in medication!
elio said on 31/Dec/05
I have mentioned this here before, but Vince Basile, a professional bodybuilder from the 60s/70s wrote the following in a bodybuilding forum:

"I measured Arnold's height in Feb 1969 at Mit's Gym in Honolulu. Several of the guys there claimed certain heights and everyone was at least 1/2 inch shorter on Mit's scale. Arnold claimed 6' 2" but measured 6' 1 1/2" that evening. I did say that he might be 6-2 in the morning. Why? Well there was a famous story of a guy who wanted to get into the police force in New York but failed to meet the minimum height then of 5'8". He succeeded in passing by getting his mates to bring him in on an ironing board in the morning before he stood up! So we do shrink during the day.

In October 1968 I measured his upper arms at 21 1/2" and he was about 62 inches around the shoulders. He wouldn't let me measure calves that day telling me to come back in 2 weeks. I returned to Canada so never got to measure his calves. In those days Arnold was pretty straight forward and posed for photos, etc. I took an image of Arnold that was published in Muscle Training Illustrated. That day that he posed I ran out of film and took only a couple of images. "

Later he wrote:

"I measured Arnold's arm in the change room upstairs at Golds on Pacific Avenue. He finished a workout minutes before but I can't remember what he was training. If he was pumped from arms then they would have gone down a bit by the time I measured them. I mean, you don't go up to a guy that big in the gym with a tape measure. He said he weighed about 245 then. There is that photo in MTI published some time in 69 where he is standing outside Golds with Chuck Fautz and Chip Wilson.

About Arnold's height. The only thing left to check is if that scale in Mit's was accurate. I have no idea but the other fellows who we measured for height all lost half an inch. My opinion is that the height guage was accurate. The guys who claimed they were taller than they were, were all shorter than me. I could care less if tall guys like Arnold are half an inch shorter but for some reason guys who claim they are 5-8 but aren't rather bother me!

Then we have the silly business of Billy Knight and Chuck Fautz claiming they were shorter than they were so they could win a trophy in a shorter class! Ah, the follies of the Ironbrains. "
elio said on 31/Dec/05
OnCapeCod, you mention:

"For purely visual evidence rent the excellent movie "The Long Goodbye" and see a pre-celebrity Arnold dwarfed in height by Elliot Gould!!!Please give it a rest after this.Ciao."

"I guess Elliot Gould must be 6'8" or 6'9" because HE DWARFS ARNOLD (6'4"...your fantasy fact)IN "THE LONG GOODBYE"!!!!!I suppose Gould wore stilts or Arnold walked in trenches for his scene as an unknown.NICE!"

Well here's a link to a clip from that movie, where Gould and Arnold are stood next to each other towards the end.

www.schwarzenegger.com/video/mov/as0215GdByeClothes.mov

Is it just me, or does the 6'3" Gould look roughly the same height as Schwarzengger? Perhaps an inch taller at maximum? I definately don't see any of this 'DWARFING' that you mention, OnCapeCod.
elio said on 31/Dec/05
UK Terminator fan, you claim that:

"In the film Pumping Iron Serge Nubret (6ft) was a finalist with Arnold and Lou in the Olympia that year, well in the encyclo there is pictures of Arnold and Serge on stage and Arnold looked a clear 0.5 - 1 inch shorter."

Well i've just checked all the way through the book. There are 8 shots where Arnold and Nubret are stood next to each other (1 is printed twice). Arnold is taller than Nubret in ALL of them. The only 2 photos where Nubret comes close is one where he is wearing shoes and Arnold isn't, and another (the one that's printed twice) where Arnold is hitting a most muscular pose and is slightly hunched over. Even on this, if you look closely Arnold is taller. In fact, the first time the photo is printed the top is cut off the photo, cutting off part of Arnold's head BUT NOT Nubret's.

I'm pretty sure the only other bodybuilder listed at 6'0" that Arnold is stood next to is Ken Waller... and guess what, Arnold's noticably taller than him too.

Also, with all the photos with Lou Ferrigno he looks a maximum of 3-4" inches shorter to me.
Viper652 said on 31/Dec/05
UK Terminator's post is by far the best on this page.
Height Tracker said on 31/Dec/05
Jone, your claims are bordering on completely ridiculous. I myself believe that Arnold was between 6'0" and 6'1" at his peak, and he has probably lost quite a bit of height, making him a solid 5'11" right now. The claims that he was 6'4" are insane, and your idea that he stood in a pot-hole on stage just doesn't make any sense at all.

[Editor Rob: no, Jone is quite right...everywhere Arnold goes he has a team of construction workers who walk in front of him digging a 3-inch ditch...this maintains the illusion that Arnie is only 6ft 1-2! As I've said before he also wears anti-lifts, so he may in fact be 6ft 6!]
Danimal said on 30/Dec/05
Jone, the only fallacy here is YOU. Arnold was listed at 6'2" years before Pumping Iron came out, or was filmed for that matter. Arnold was NEVER taller than Mike Katz (6'1"), Reg Park (6'1"-6'2) and only marginally taller than Dave Draper (6'0") and was clearly inches shorter than the then 6'4"-6'5" Lou Ferrigno.

UK Terminator fan said on 30/Dec/05
Ok everyone - Arnolds Bodybuilding encyclopedia is a must for those who believe he is or was taller than 6ft.

The book is packed with pictures of Arnold at his youthful bodybuilding prime. What a physique!!! Probably the best ever BUT............... when many of the pictures of him around supposed 6 footers casts a massive cloud over the claim that he is 6ft 2.

On a stage with 6ft 4 Lou Ferrigno in 1973 Arnold looked at least 5 inches shorter.

In the film Pumping Iron Serge Nubret (6ft) was a finalist with Arnold and Lou in the Olympia that year, well in the encyclo there is pictures of Arnold and Serge on stage and Arnold looked a clear 0.5 - 1 inch shorter.

get yourselfs a copy as the camera can't lie and most of the pics in the book are centred around Arnold on stage or in a gym in his barefeet.

I conclude Arnold was 5ft 11.5 barefeet in his prime and in footwear wouldv'e been 6ft 0.5 / 6ft 1.

the heels he wore in The Terminator films were 2.5 inches high - that would make him 6ft 2. And with 2 inch lifts 6ft 4. Maybe this will explain why Jone believes him to be 6ft 4. And hopefully those who say he is less than 6ft will agree with me 2.

And now I believe Arnold to be 5ft 10.5

Thankyou
Cobra said on 30/Dec/05
I think, the only problem is, that when you think about Arnold you look up to him in the mind, so you think you have also to look up in real life.
So when you hear A.S. you expect to look up, you expect somebody who is 6ft6+.
And that`s the problem.
And so is that even when people met him they can`t judge him very well because of that. that`s the reason why 5ft10 or such height judges came along.
I believe that Arnold was about 188 cm peak, 187 cm in his 80movies, 186 cm in his 90 movies and about 185 now.
OnCapeCod said on 27/Dec/05
I have flown into Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket 240-250 times during my life. They are islands! You see the way this works? I really couldn't give 2 craps about Arnold beside the fact that he is 5'11" and NOT freakishly large in overall stature. I guess Elliot Gould must be 6'8" or 6'9" because HE DWARFS ARNOLD (6'4"...your fantasy fact)IN "THE LONG GOODBYE"!!!!!I suppose Gould wore stilts or Arnold walked in trenches for his scene as an unknown.NICE!
Cobra said on 27/Dec/05
You miss understood me...
what I wanted to say that Arnold is about 6ft0,5 to 6ft1.
There are many inches to Ronnie, I know he is barefeet, but it`s too much that Arnold only 5ft11
And Triple H is at least 6ft2,5 more like 6ft3.
Look at this photos:
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/05/hhhrock1.jpg
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/00/hhhhhh.jpg
At both pictures not much smaller.

And on the Arnold/Coleman picture he doesn`t look much taller than Arnold.
Gramps said on 27/Dec/05
Cobra: that photo certainly doesn't do much for Triple H's stock, does it? Even with the favorable camera angle he doesn't show much height against the barefooted 5'9"-5'10" Ronnie Coleman, or the 5'11" Arnold!

[Editor Rob: he doesn't look big there...I missed

This pic of him and Angle.

I'm still looking at Triple H, he hasn't been forgotten...trying to find any fan pics is harder...]
Cobra said on 27/Dec/05
Here are Triple H, ronnie coleman and Arnie:
http://www.abbf.biz/images/comm/up001.gif
elio said on 27/Dec/05
OnCapeCod, so you've been in the same aircraft as him 4-5 times eh? Which was it, 4 or 5? Or was being in an aircraft with Arnold such a mundane experience that you don't know whether it was 4 or 5 times? Perhaps if you cannot remember things accurately then you can't judge height accurately.

Or maybe, just maybe, you're trying to 'Jone' us by bull$hitting.
OnCapeCod said on 26/Dec/05
Arnold is 5'11".The rest is lifts and attitude.Some of these fanboy fantasies are really hyper-detailed to an almost creepy level. I have been in the same small aircraft with him 4-5 times. For purely visual evidence rent the excellent movie "The Long Goodbye" and see a pre-celebrity Arnold dwarfed in height by Elliot Gould!!!Please give it a rest after this.Ciao.
Danimal said on 26/Dec/05
Jone, the evidence is in the pics and live footage of Arnold in his peak compared to other bodybuilders. I already provided that info below. Don't discount that. Why would Arnold oblige to allowing your cousin to measure him in the storage room???? That is ridiculous...Furthermore, Arnold would not have downplayed his height by 2 inches and the man NEVER looked 6'4", which would have put him at equal height with Lou and he NEVER WAS. This is a fanatsy of yours with NO proof, but eye-witness testimonies of you and all your family having met him. That in itself is just a bit far-fetched as well.
Gramps said on 26/Dec/05
Guys, if you believe Jone just happened to walk past Arnold on "Muscle Beach," and that his cousin actually measured Arnold in Austria, I have some future beach property in eastern California I'd like to sell you!
Danimal said on 25/Dec/05
Jone, what is this with your obsession with Arnold having been 6'4" in his peak??? The man was at least 2-4 inches shorter than Lou Ferrigno at the time. Arnold was the exact same height as the 6'1"-6'2" Reg Park, an inch or two taller than the 6'0" Dave Draper, either the exact same height as the 6'1" Mike Katz, an inch or two taller than the 6'0" Serge Nubret, and more recently, the same height as the later years 6'1"-6'2" Clint Eastwood. Arnold was NEVER 6'4". If he was, then he would have said so, to further build his image. He surely wouldn't have downplayed it my man.

I give him a strong 5'11 1/2"-6'0" today and NO less. He towered over the 5'9"-5'10" barefoot Kevin Levrone when he won the Arnold Classic twice in the nineties. The man was 6'1"-6'2" in his prime and the proof is in all of the pics and live barefooted live footage of his competitions and workouts...He was 4 to 5 inches taller than the then 5'9" Frank Zane and had a good 5 inches if not 6'0" over the 5'8" Mike Mentzer at the 1980 Mr. Olympia, as well as 4-5 inches on the 5'9"-5'10" Cuban Sergio Olivia.
Viper652 said on 25/Dec/05
Jone, Arnold never scraped 6-4. That is ridiculous.
nolifts81 said on 25/Dec/05
In 1993 he was at the italian gal
Thomas said on 25/Dec/05
Hey, OnCapeCod, I'm 6'2" (1/8" shy). I was measured a number of times in the Air Force, many times before and many times after. I'm a young man and haven't suffered any spinal injuries or anything else that would shrink my height. I'm 6'2", 6'2", 6'2". I KNOW when someone is my height, and having two friends who were on the same even ground as me and only a few feet away adds more credibilty to my statement. Arnold Schwarzenneger is at the BARE minimum 6'1" and maybe as much as a half inch taller. The only heperbole that's going on in this thread is your miserable estimation of this man's height. I've never met a 5'11" person whom I looked eye to eye with, and won't unless I meet someone with the flattest head you've ever done see.
Danimal said on 24/Dec/05
Jay Cutler has also been listed at 5'8 1/2" and as well as 5'9". Ronnie, used to get 5'10" and then when he became Mr. Olympia for the first time in 1998, he jumped to 5'11". I still go with the 5'10" listing and quite possibly not even that today (he's in his 40's)....To put into perspective, if he is in fact 5'9" we'll say (my exact height), and seeing he ways OVER 300 pounds in competition form, well, that is one Huge dude. His arms alone are 24 inches (unlike the fake measurement of Hulk Hogan's in the eighties). Hulk Hogan's were maybe 21-22 inches at best. Another Huge bodybuilder in perspective to his height, is Lee Priest, who is just under 5'4" and 285 pounds in the offseason, sporting 22 inch guns...These are very big men..What they lack in height for the most part, they make up for in weight and for the most part, that is why they became bodybuilders in the first place. They were all the typical shortish/pencil neck geeks who were picked on. There are exceptions of course.
cool1 said on 24/Dec/05
hi folks. I'm Austrian, same hometown as Arnie. I met him several times (late 90ies). He is around 5'11. I'm very very sure about that.
Gramps said on 24/Dec/05
CelebHeights: Bodybuilding competitions are exactly the venues where you are most likely to see Arnold wearing his "magic shoes," since the contestants are given height listings. Ronnie Coleman may be 5'11" in his cowboy boots but that's about it!
OnCapeCod said on 24/Dec/05
I don't know why my last post didn't show but Arnold is 5'11" FLAT. I have been on the Martha's Vinyard puddle jumper with him MANY. Anything besides that is BS. There is so much hyperbole on this site that it really shows exactly WHY height misrepresentation pays off BIG dividends in the celebrity world!
Viper652 said on 24/Dec/05
Weird sighting. Everyone else says Hugh Jackman is between 6-2 and 6-3.
Cobra said on 24/Dec/05
@ Thomas: also believe Arnold is 6ft1.
Coleman is 5ft11, Cutler 5ft9. Don`t know if this picture is real, because on most of the others coleman is looking taller.
And Cutler get one inch because of his hair, coleman not.
First: Arnold was definately strong.
He could bench press 498 pounds raw for one rep.
(bench pressing for a 5ft4 or 5ft5 (Franco) is much easier than for a 6ft2 (Arnold) athlete, because of the long/short arms)
His training weights with squats is 440 lbs. Not so much, compared to nowadays, but in that time you don`t have to need this gigantic quads.
And everybody who say its nocht much, try it!
On his best condition Arnold could lift maybe about 750 pounds; and that`s much.
In 1967 Arnold was German Master in powerlifting.

Arnold`s height, I saw the World Stunt Taurus Award for a few weeks, and Arnold was standing next to The Rock.
He was about 2 inches or so shorter.
CelebHeights Editor said on 24/Dec/05
Gramps, I'm not sure about Coleman being 5ft 9, but you can see Coleman and Arnie from another angle, which shows that the floor is most likely got a little slope on it...but Coleman is barefoot in anycase...

Coleman and Arnie. I could go to the extreme and say Arnie is only 2 inches taller than 5ft 9 barefoot Coleman in that pic. Arnie has 1.5 inch shoes + 1 inch riser. Therefore Arnie is actually 5ft 8.5.

But I won't make outrageous claims ;)

...I do think Arnie even in the 90's *looked* 6ft 1 easily, now I just think that in the last few years he's maybe lost a little bit...
BrianJ said on 23/Dec/05
I was in the capital building in Sacramento last year with a friend and Arnold walked right past us (with 6 or 7 other staff members/bodyguards) on his way to a news conference. I'm 6'2" and I swear on a big stack of Bibles that Arnold is no taller than 5'10". My friend and I were shocked. I thought he would be at least as tall as me. It's possible that he's become shorter over time due to steroids, etc. but he is certainly not either 6' or 6'2".
Gramps said on 23/Dec/05
Jone: Ronnie Coleman is 5'9" at best. Here he is posing down right next to the 5'9" Jay Cutler:
http://www.5ifit.com/content/images/bodybuilding/ronnie_coleman_jay_cutler_2001MrO_prejudging_0010.JPG
Mikex said on 23/Dec/05
The 6'2'' actor Richard E Grant wrote a memoir a few yrs ago in which mentioned seeing both Sly and Arnie in Hollywood and being surprised that they were both well short of 6'. I read somewhere that famous people are never the size you imagine them to be in real life. Guys you think are average turn out to be huge in the flesh, whereas the guys you think of as man mountains are often small. Maybe there's something in this.
cendrin rovini said on 23/Dec/05
I mean that really sucks, doesn't it? You train hard to gain muscles, to look like the incredible Hulk just to gain muscles becoz you want to attract women. But after all you're shrunk 10cm and you feel bad again losing attractivity. Arnold was big, now no longer, is that the reason why he's an angry poltician now?
Gotxo said on 22/Dec/05
Elio thnx for your comments, they are pretty interesting. We see that the man who lost more height was the one that used steroids (nasty thing that must trash hormonal balance). Yeah, it's a scientific fact that Halterofilia (sorry ignore the translation for that kind of weight-lifting) reduces the length of the tendons of the groin. It must afect to those of the backbone in some manner too.
Cobra said on 22/Dec/05
Arnold did a 710 Pound Deadlifts when he was 20
Danimal said on 22/Dec/05
Elio, Arnold WAS a VERY powerful man he did very heavy lifts with men like Dave Draper, Franco Columbo, Frank Zane and later Jusup Wilkoscz (2 of which were ex-powerlifters themselves). Arnold would squat in the neighborhood of 400-500 pounds and do VERY heavy deadlifts. Being an ex power-lifter myself, I have lost an inch an height as well. I had measured myself twice when I was 23-24 at the height of 5'10" and now, at 28 years old, having given up all weightlifting in general, I MAX out at 5'9" first thing in the morning. I am not sure if this is due to poor posture on my part. I slouch to often when sitting at my computer, or bad sleeping habits, or the heavy weightlifting itself. I know it can't be my age, because I am still young...
Gramps said on 22/Dec/05
Okay, JONE, we're ready to see those photos of Arnie at 6'3"+. Bring them on...
Jason said on 21/Dec/05
Actually, it's likely Arnold stopped growing early. Being a mesomorph, they're early developers and early developers tend to stop growing earlier. Sometimes as early as 12 - 13 let alone 15. With that in mind, I'd say it's more likely Arnold didn't grow after 15 than did.
cendrin rovini said on 21/Dec/05
Hans Meiser (cult-presenter in Germany) said he met Schwarzenegger and he was his height (188cm). Maybe he shrunk almost 10cm because of his age and training. PS: I'm from Germany, next to Austria. Not to kill someone for crimes is a part of our culture, I'm disappointed and it makes him small in my eyes...
Danimal said on 21/Dec/05
McFly, you still state FACTS my friend. Can you not see that your Facts are merely YOUR subjective opinions, which I might reiterate, are being based on absolutely NO evidence whatsoever...I have to side with Elio 100%.. Lou is not and was not 6'2" in his prime. Do all of us a favor and look at his stacked up to his former Olympia competitors. In 1975, Serge Nubret was 6'0" even and Lou towered over him. In fact, Lou had at least 3 inches on the 6'1"-6'2" Paul Dillet in the 1993 Mr. Olympia as well..Furthermore, your claim of Arnold being only 5'10" in his prime, would in fact reduce him to 5'8"-5'9" today by your logic, but again, you seem more fixated with magic 5'10" mark being his prime height, that I've noticed you've failed to mention was you belive his current height to be. Why don't you enlighten us all....Besides, the man was measured at 15 at a height of 5'11 1/2", so he was NO WAY less than that and I am quite certain he grew after that. 15 is by no means an age where young men stop growing..
Gramps said on 21/Dec/05
I think McFly and Jone are really the same guy, just playing all of us from both ends! Our reactions to their (his) ridiculous assertions must make for great laughs.
Jason said on 20/Dec/05
It's funny that Arnold is listed here as 6'0'' with those quotes at the top of the page underneath. Same with Stallone's page ... lol.
elio said on 20/Dec/05
McFly, your repetitive claim that Arnold is 5'10" is almost as crazy as the stuff Jone is coming out with. Whereas he is biased in favour of Arnold as he is a fan, you are biased against Arnold because you clearly hate the man.
Danimal said on 20/Dec/05
Jone, at LEAST 6'4"??? Where do you get this from? If Arnold was indeed 6'4" then wouldn't he have ever wanted to announce that height? Arnold only faced Lou ONCE in 1975. I believe that Lou was indeed 6'4" back then, if not 6'5", but Arnold? lol...NO WAY!!! 6'1"-6'2" MAX and today, 6'0" MAX....I am a HUGE fan of Arnold, but I won't make him seem literally larger than life as you are attempting to do!
Gramps said on 20/Dec/05
Jone, you're hilarious!
CelebHeights Editor said on 20/Dec/05
In that 'infamous' Qui interview back in 77 he did say: "I'm 6'2", and 240 pounds is the perfect weight for me" so he's been consistant.
Anonymous said on 19/Dec/05
After seeing a photo of my co-worker standing beside the campaigning Arnold (in a suit), I am now convinced Arnold is below 6 feet barefooted, by at least an inch.
Mr. R said on 19/Dec/05
Again, I will note that when he ran for governor of my state, they first released the 6-2 figure. But when they were challenged by keen height observers, his own press spokesman said he was 6 feet. He is certainly not above that!
elio said on 19/Dec/05
LOL. I must have missed the 'Let's measure Arnold on TV' show. Damn.
Viper652 said on 19/Dec/05
I call it as I see it as well, and Arnold looks 5-10.5 to me without his lifts. Shoot, even I think Bil Murray looks 6-2 to 6-3 sometimes.
Danimal said on 19/Dec/05
I see Arnold as NO less than 5'11 1/2" today. I've ALWAYS been a fan of him, since Pumping Iron came out in 1977 (the year I was born). I am a VERY good judge of height, as well as weight and perhaps he was never a solid 6'2" (probably closer to 6'1"), but today, he is hovering around the 6'0 mark and proof of that is him standing next to tall men, ie: Lou Ferrigno, Reg Park, Dave Draper, David Letterman, etc.)...
Cobra said on 19/Dec/05
A legit 6ft4 with the shoes he had in T1 can be right.
his barefeet height nowadays I think is about 184/185.
I really can`t believe this 5ft10 storys.
Jason said on 19/Dec/05
I just call it as I see it, Danimal. The sad fact is the vast majority of celebrity's heights are exaggerations/lies. The only listings here I posted agreeing with lately I can recall are Hugh Jackman & Bill Murray.
Danimal said on 18/Dec/05
McFly, read back what you wrote and tell me how much sense this makes: "Arnold was only 5'10 at his peak. I saw him during his campaign for Governor in 2003 --- you did not." Not to prove you wrong, but you mention that Arnold was 5'10" at his peak and in the same sentence you mention how you saw him in 2003? My friend, 2003 shows a 55-56 year old man and not a 22-28 year old Arnold at his peak and HOW do you know I did NOT see him as you claim you did? All we have to go by are your opinions McFly, for you offer no real evidence, YET, you claim your subjective opinions are FACTS, of which they are NOT.

BTW, on a side note, Jason, it appears that you like to prove points as to how SHORT most people are. You rarely if ever give the benefit of the doubt. That was just an obsevration my man.
Gramps said on 18/Dec/05
Jone: I love the way you just inject flat-out nonsense into the conversation! You're a riot!

McFly: So you think Arnold was at his peak height when you saw him during his 2003 gubernatorial campaign? LOL (again!)

tgri: Sorry to say but these guys don't lie when they say the Governator is less than 6 feet these days. Sad but true!
Jason said on 18/Dec/05
If you believe that tgri, you'll believe anything.
Cobra said on 18/Dec/05
In 1974, one year before Pumping Irion, competition weight of Arnold was 240 pounds, that was his best shape, in 1980 he weighed about 229 pounds.
Offseason he had about 260 pounds and still good defined, you can see this in "Hercules in New York".
In the first Conan movie Arnold was about 225 pounds, in the second about 235, in Conan the destroyer he is close to his shape in his BB-competition days.

Danimal said on 17/Dec/05
One more thing Elio. In the filming of Pumping Iron, which took place in 1975, while filming the pre-training schedule of several 1975 Olympia contestants, including Arnold S. and Lou Ferrigno, it is clearly stated that Arnold is 6'2" and 240 pounds and that Lou was 6'5" and 275 pounds. In fact, that was there off-season weight, for Arnold did trim down a bit for the competition (not sure how much), as did Lou, who was 268 pounds in November 1975 for his competition (his lightest competition by FAR). In 1993 Lou competed at 318 pounds and the following year at 298, listed at being just over 6'4".
Danimal said on 17/Dec/05
Gramps, Arnold averaged 220 pounds for Conan the Barbarian and reduced his weight to 212 pounds for one scene, where he is left for dead. For his filming of Terminator he had beefed up to 240 pounds according to him, in the December 1984 issue of Muscle and Fitness. In the movie Twins, Danny Devito made a point to state that his brother (that being Arnold) is a 230 pounds virgin...In the early nineties, he reduced that bodyweight to 210-215 pounds...

Another point that Elio made was when he mentioned the former 3 time Mr. Olympia who stood 5'9" (my exact height) and weighed 185-190 pounds for the 1980 competion. Well, if that was the case, Arnold had a good 4-5 inches on Frank and back then there was NO lifts. Anold either worked out barefoot, or with ballet slippers..No excpetions. Yes, the 1980 Mr. Olympia was indeed quite controversial, seeing that Mike Mentzer should have won it that year and because he didn't, he chose to retire that same year from professional bodybuilding competitions. Two other great competitors were Casey Viator and Tom Platz...

In order for Anrold to be able to have a lean 235 pounds of muscle in competion, he had to gain weight in the offseason and he did. He was 250-260 pounds for many years in his early competion days and in later ones, he was between 240-250 pounds and for most of his films in the eighties before and including 1986 he was 240 pounds..Gramps, Arnold was 212-220 pounds in 1981 and he was very lean and muscular. In 1984 at 240 pounds, he was much more massive, with less definition. Arnold weighed 250 pounds at his first Mr. Olympia in 1969, but people like Frank Zane and Sergio Olivia were far more cut and defined, so Arnold reduced his weight to 230 pounds for the 1970 competition and won it that year. The following year he found his groove at 235 pounds, but remember, this was his competion weight and NOT his offseason weight. He was a VERY large man back then, well, at least his upper torso was.
Zach said on 17/Dec/05
Regarding the weight issue, Arnold says in his encyclopedia that the heaviest he's been is 240Ib and that off season he had a tendency to slim down rather than gain weight since he was an ecto-mesomorph.
Jason said on 17/Dec/05
Depends how tall he really was. I'm a Conan and Arnold fan and have been watching the 2 Conan movies since I was a kid. Being a large man myself, I can see Arnold only having weighed 220 in Conan the Barbarian. Though I reckon he was no more than a solid 5'11''. I remember reading the producers wanted him to have a build in the movie that looked like it came from heavy labour (not weight lifting) and not a ''super hero'' physique.

Thanks for that interesting snippet, elio.
Gramps said on 17/Dec/05
McFly, are you still here? Arnie only 212 pounds in Conan? That would be possible if he was about 5'6". Even at a height back then of around 6 feet, Arnold would have weighed at least 240 to achieve that massiveness.
Gramps said on 17/Dec/05
Jone, you made a little mistake in your research on lifts: "Magnum" lifts are to raise boats, not feet. Nice try, though.
elio said on 17/Dec/05
Danimal. I actually meant to type 1974, not 1973 :) . You are right he was bigger in 1974... around 240lbs. However since then (including the 1975 olympia) he was been lighter.

Arnold dropped from 235lbs to 220lbs when he learned that Serge Nubret would be competing in the 1975 olympia and realised he posed a bigger threat than Lou Ferrigno. He wanted to make sure Nubret's definition and seperation didn't overshadow his own.

Also he competed in the 1980 olympia (not the 1990 as you have mistyped) under a similar lighter weight. This was probably due to the fact that he only decided to compete several weeks before the contest and also that at the time the judges had begun to award more marks for aesthetics with less emphasis on mass (180lbs 5'9" Frank Zane had won the 3 previous olympias). Most people estimate Arnold was around the 215lbs mark for the 1980 olympia.

The film studio wanted to shoot some footage of Arnold as King Conan, fully bearded and sitting on his throne surrounded by beautiful women in the fall of 1980. They were going to use that footage for a trailer that was going to run before some of the big Christmas movies later that year. Arnold was told to get in shape quick because he had to be big for the footage of him as King Conan. He started training seriously in the summer of '80 and everyone was telling him he should compete in the Olympia that year since he wasn't promoting it for the first time since he retired in 1975. I think as the Olympia got closer and he got in better shape, he thought that coming out of retirement and winning another Olympia title would provide great publicity for the new movie. Unfortunately, it didn't quite work out that way. His win was very controversial and CBS didn't even broadcast the footage they filmed at the show because of the controversy. Arnold started principal shooting on the movie in Spain on January 7th, 1981 and finished in May of the same year. The movie wasn't released until May 14, 1982. Arnold's weight was roughly the same for conan as it was for the '80 olympia. Perhaps as heavy as 220lbs, but he definately was not 240-250lbs beforehand as you have stated. You can't (effectively) go from 215lbs up to 250lbs then back down to 220lbs in 3 months.

In a lot of his movies since 1985 INCLUDING Twins, Red heat, and Predator he was actually only 210lbs. He was a bit heavier in Commando, Terminator and Conan the Destroyer.

You are correct that he is much lighter today, but i think 180lbs seems just a bit too light. Probably closer to 200lbs? I saw a picture of him with Jackie Chan recently and he was definately looking lighter.
Jason said on 16/Dec/05
Danimal, what did Arnold weigh in Conan the Barbarian? I heard 228 somewhere, but 220 sounds more like it.
Danimal said on 16/Dec/05
Elio, you are very much wrong about Arnold not having weighed over 230 pounds since 1973. Funny, but he won both the 1974 and 1975 Mr. Olympia at 235 pounds, as well as the 1990 Mr. Olympia at that weight. In 1981 while filming Conan the Barbarian, he reduced his weight from 240-250 pounds to 212-220...He later gained back that weight for Terminator, whereby he weighed 240 pounds..In 1988, he weighed 230 pounds for Twins and maintained that weight until the early 1990's, until True Lies, where he reduced his weight to 210-215 pounds...I don't believe he is even close to that weight today. I have read that he is somewhere around 180 pounds today...This is a man who at his peak was said to have ballooned up to 280 one offseason...When he first came to the US he was an imposing 250 pound man standing 6'1"-6'2", but is probably 5'11 1/2"-6'0" today...
Jason said on 16/Dec/05
Elio, steroids can indeed affect bone integrity which would lead to some shrinking. Not necessarily due to the muscle gained via their use itself (though it sure wouldn't help).
Jason said on 16/Dec/05
I agree with what you say Codex, but it depends on the person, too. My Grandfather was 6'1 1/2'' in his prime and he's still a hair over 6'1'' today at 73 years old despite having been overweight for the last 30 years. He's lost a little weight this year but he always weighed around 225lbs.
Codex said on 15/Dec/05
Being of a heavy build accelerates shrinking, this is actually the case.
Do your homework and you will find the scientific evidence.
This is the reason tall people can carry a substantial weight load that would cause a shorter person to be podgy.
For example a man of 6 ft4 could be 200lbs easily and would still be of a lean build rather than over muscular.
While a man who was 5 ft7 could weigh 200lbs, but his build would be much heavier and dense, the muscles would be more apparent,or he would be over weight.
So in conclusion a man who was bettwen 6ft and 6ft2 could indeed be 230lbs without being overweight, but its still too much weight to carry for a man of that height without shrinking a small amount.
I would estimate you would have to be at least 6ft4 to be 230lbs and not shrink over the years as a result, probably even 6ft5.
It is not the muscle which causes shrinkage, it is the body weight, and even if Arnold was 6ft2...its still not tall anough to accomadate 230lbs without loosing some height as a result over time.

Below i have linked a page that confirms by post, from Wikipedia,
where it quite clearly states that height is related to weight....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_weight
elio said on 15/Dec/05
He probably has shrunk. However there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that 'steroid use' causes or accelerates 'shrinking'.

Why would muscle cause shrinking anyway? It doesn't 'hang' from the spine. If anything it would reduce spine compression. Also, Arnold hasn't been over 230lbs since 1973. Even then, is 230lbs that heavy that it could compress the bones in your legs?

I can't help but feel that the assumption that muscle makes people shrink stems from jealousy
Gramps said on 14/Dec/05
Based on bodybuilding photos from 35 years ago, I believe Arnold was exactly the same height as Elvis - - 6'0.5". But at 5'11" today, I suspect Arnie is a tad taller than Elvis is!
Height Tracker said on 14/Dec/05
I agree with Codex. And anybody who says that Arnie was max 5'10" in his prime is really dilusional.
Codex said on 14/Dec/05
Points to bear in mind about him..
1) Arnie is not a young man anymore, is anyone going to seriously oppose this fact? The man has clearly lost a little height.
2) With all the body building hes done in his life(not neglecting the possiblity of steroid use), we can certainly say this extra muscle and weight has taken its toll on his frame.
3) He has obviously worn lifts in a lot of his films, that may have given the impression he was in the 6ft3/6ft4 range.
I find it plausible that he was 6 ft 2 in his prime. With an actor like Arnie, height would be a big thing, with his image as a tough guy type its doubtlful he could have pulled the wool over peoples eyes and claimed he was much taller than he was(at least in his prime).
Nowadys id put him in the 5ft11 range, 6 ft not out of the question though.
Gramps said on 13/Dec/05
Great picture, Bakane! Here's another, just showing how enigmatic Arnold is, height-wise, anyway:
http://ralfmoeller.com/fotogalerie/zoom.php?backurlid=2&fileid=26
Here he is with the legit 6'6" Ralf Moeller and the fading Clint Eastwood.
Gotxo said on 13/Dec/05
Elio, i read once a similar or the same article, but translated to metrics,it gave 183cm for the age of 15 and 185 at sixteen. The conversion, however can be biased by the well-know issues on conversion (seeking the cultural references). I think both those figures where rounded up.
Bakane said on 13/Dec/05
If G.W. Bush is 5'11". Arnie is the same height.
Look at this picture:
http://www.americanpatrol.com/CALIFORNIA/SCHWARZENEGGER/IMAGES/Bush-Arnie031016SBdo293x347.jpg
elio said on 13/Dec/05
the magazine 'Iron Man', Volume 26 No. 5, July 1967 and, on page 22, had Albert Busek's introductory article on Arnold that was reprinted courtesy of 'Man's World'. In it, Herr Busek gives Arnold's measurements as taken by Kurt Marnul when he started training at the age of 15

"Bodyweight 154; Height 5'11 1/2"; Upper arm 13; Chest 41 1/3; Waist 27 1/2; Thigh 21; Calf 14 3/4."

In Arnold's autobiography he states his height at 15 as 6 feet. This could just be a minor round-up from 5'11 1/2 which probably doesn't constitute as 'lieing about his height'.

Either way i think it's pretty clear he was around 6 foot at 15. It seems perfectly feasible that he gained another two inches over the following 3 years.

Jone's claims of 6'2 at 14 and 6'4 now are ridiculous and completely without evidence.
Codex said on 13/Dec/05
http://ralfmoeller.com/fotogalerie/zoom.php?backurlid=2&fileid=26
An interesting picture id say, make of it what you will.
Granted Arnie is in the foreground , but despite the angle he looks almost as tall as Clint Eastwood in this picture.
Jason said on 11/Dec/05
I only wish I could go on down to the TAB and put my life savings on that thing about Arnold not being true (staged, rumour, etc.).
Gotxo said on 6/Dec/05
Gramps: Lou looks tall, dunno if 6'3,or a little over.
But Arnie is possing, very conscious of his imga, he's closer to the camera,and we
know he likes to wear boots. No need of lifts at all to appear like that (if you're 6' or similar). 5'10 is stupid, but about six feet makes sense to me.
Gramps said on 6/Dec/05
So here's Arnold next to Lou Ferrigno, and Lou next to the 6'2.5" Eric Bana:
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/pg2/2003/0307/photo/a_lou_i.jpg
link
It's obvious that Big Lou is still around 6'3" and McFly says Arnold is 5" shorter? Yeah, right! Oh, I forgot, Arnold is wearing his 4" lifts! Ha-ha!
Jason said on 5/Dec/05
If he was really 6'2'' (or even over 6'0'' for that matter) we wouldn't have had all these droves of people saying he's 5'10'' and 5'11'' since the 70s.
F. Lee Barely said on 5/Dec/05
Schwarzenegger was measured and confirmed at 6'2" during his competitive years - apparently he'd been at that height since his early teens. If in fact he is only around 5'11" these days, it's shockingly bad news that one can lose THAT much height over the years. (I shudder to think where I'LL end up...)
Anonymous said on 5/Dec/05
McFly, what is up with you and your facts?? You bring no evidence to the table to back up your statements...Your facts are just your opinions, of which you are entitled to, but the way you are making yourself come across is quite ignorant and very closed-minded, refusing to look at the evidence...
Gramps said on 5/Dec/05
McFly, you are so obviously just trying to rattle cages with your ridiculous statements. Buh-bye!
Danimal said on 4/Dec/05
The 1983 Guinness Book of World Records listed Arnold as the 6'1" former Mr. Universe and then listed his other measurements...This was the first and only time he was ever listed anything other than 6'2"...I find that interesting...Arnold had always been the same height as David Letterman, who is supposedly 6'2"-6'2 1/2"....Arnold hasn't always carried around 250 pounds btw...The man went as low as 210-220 pounds as well...I really have no idea how much he weighs today...I've heard as low 180 pounds, which wouldn't surprise me...I do not give him less than 5'11"...No way is he 5'10" and to say he was 5'10" in his prime is just absurd...The man was taller than Dave Draper, who is 6'0". Arnold was the same height as Reg Park, who was 6'1"-6'2"...Lou wasn't 6'3" in his prime. He was always over 6'4" until a few years ago...He is probably 6'3" today, or slightly under that....
Gramps said on 4/Dec/05
Cobra, I share your sentiments, but still don't think Arnie was 6'1" or more - - mostly likely slightly less, but still over 6' even in his twenties. I think the thousands of hours of weight lifting combined with carrying around 250 pounds or so for so many years (+ the effects of steriods?) has taken it's toll. Arnie is certainly under 6'0" barefooted today, maybe by an inch or so. My co-worker has a recent campaign photo of himself with Arnold wearing a suit, and Arnold is DEFINITELY under 6 feet compared to my friend, both wearing suits. My best guess: 6'0.5" in his prime, and 5'11" today.
Cobra said on 4/Dec/05
5ft10 at his peak, you are crazy guy. Arnold was 187 or 188 (morning, evening ;)) in his prime.
He never took care about his height with shoes or such stuff because he knew he was tall enough. Nowadays I think 185 is right.
Gramps said on 2/Dec/05
When Wilt turned pro he was measured at 7'1-1/8". Check out this photo of Wilt "boxing" with the young 6'3" Muhammad Ali. Wilt actually looks WAY over 7 feet!
http://ibbab.free.fr/Hall_fame/Wilt/images/wilt7_jpg.jpg
Jason said on 2/Dec/05
I think so. He was listed as tall as 7'2'' in the NBA ... no doubt an in shoes measurement. People used to swear he was really at least 7'3'' but Wilt always insisted he was only 7'1''. He's the only man to ever score 100 points in an NBA game I believe ... entire teams score 100 points in a game!
Jason said on 2/Dec/05
Who says Wilt was 6'11''? I've heard Rob say that, but know where he got it from. The guy looks 7'1'' to me ... and you know how skeptical I am lol.

[Editor Rob: I buy the 7ft 1, he looks it]
sam said on 2/Dec/05
That picture is awesome Charles, they just need Kevin Peter Hall in it and Arnold looks about 5'4" compared to other guys.
MEK said on 2/Dec/05
Hummm that picture is interesting! Andre looks to me 3 or 4 inches shorten then Wilt Chamberlain. If Chamberlain was 6'11" then this will put Andre only at 6'7" range???
Charles said on 2/Dec/05
5'10 seems like a very short assumption. After all there really wasn't that much of a difference between him and the Rock who's supposedly 6'3.5"
Jason said on 2/Dec/05
Wilt was 7'1'' ... that puts Arnold at 5'11'' at best around 1983/1984.
Charles said on 2/Dec/05
A pic of Arnold next to Andre the giant and Wilt Chamberlain.
http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=andrearnoldwilt1vh.jpg
CelebHeights Editor said on 2/Dec/05
From wonkette.com, "I turn to my left, and did a double take as I saw the Gubernator himself, Arnold Schwarzenegger, walking with Maria Shriver. He's not particularly tall, as I was taller than him (I'm 5'11" or so)"
Glenn said on 1/Dec/05
he does look 6-2 whenever I see him.but anything is possible
Anonymous said on 1/Dec/05
arnie looks 6'2" next ot 174 chan
J-Sinn said on 1/Dec/05
I met him back in 90 at a fitness conference, I was shorter then but he only looked as tall as my dad, my dad is only 5'10". I thought he would have been bigger when I met him, so did my mother. I think maybe 5'll, 6 foot at most.
N/A said on 30/Nov/05
He's about 5'10" 5'11 1/2" at the most.
Zach said on 30/Nov/05
A few pictures of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jackie Chan...

http://www.thearnoldfans.com/news/940.htm
Gramps said on 29/Nov/05
I think you're both right (A-Bomb and Gotxo). Maybe the steroids HAVE hastened skeletal shrinkage. And yes, I'm sure Arnold has "over-heighted" himself in a lot of his roles.
Gotxo said on 29/Nov/05
The exercise stimulates the osteogenesis, but if it's excesive leads to a bone tissue degradation. It's obvious that in both chaps case it was, that combined with the use of steroids had had to make bone wear. In a degree more noticeable (visually, i mean) that the avg fella? Maybe, but i still think on him like in a guy that played the star-system of Hollywood, a 1-2 inches taller by written :P
A-Bomb said on 29/Nov/05
It seems like both Lou Ferringo and Arnold may have lost height in the inches from what they once were in the bodybuilding days. I was thinking then is it perhaps not caused from the actual lifting itself, but the steroids they used (both have admitted to be being on them (for a laugh just listen to Lou's voice in Pumping Iron compared to it today) and infact it's a given that they are used in competitive bodybuilding still to this day). I read that steroids can cause bone to be removed faster than it is formed, and loss of bone density can occur. Steroids can induce osteoprosis which in-turn obviously affects height. Both Arnold and Lou may have quite a bit more shrinking to go through if this is the case. Any thoughts?
Gramps said on 28/Nov/05
My God, Sly must be on stilts in that picture with Hogan!
Gramps said on 28/Nov/05
Lou is hunched over a bit in this pic, too. Interesting about Triple H, as I have him pegged at 6'1" based on his impromptu appearance on "Punk'd."
Danimal said on 28/Nov/05
That picture with Hogan and Stallone STILL baffles my mind...Hogan TOWERED over Stallone in the early 80's..Poor guy had shrunk SO MANY inches...
Jason said on 28/Nov/05
Also, if Stallone can get up there with Hogan ( http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=52581802&cdi=0 ), then Arnold can get up there with Lou.
Jason said on 28/Nov/05
Eric Bana is slightly shorter than Hugh Jackman (who's 6'2 1/2'' at best). I dunno, maybe it's his shoes there? I remember looking at a WWE magazine earlier this year and it had a pic of Lou with Triple H at last year's Mr Olympia, and the height difference between them was slightly less than that.
Gramps said on 28/Nov/05
I still think Lou was 6'4" in his prime. I thought he had lost a lot of height since then, but here he is recently an inch or more taller than the 6'2.5" Eric Bana:
link
Jason said on 27/Nov/05
Possibly Arnold was 6'0'', I mean I don't know for sure of course, just doubt it. Have you seen the recent pics of Lou with Hulk Hogan? Lou is a good inch or so shorter than Hogan even ... I don't believe he was ever 6'4'' or 6'5''. They just exaggerated in Pumping Iron (and bodybuilding in general).
Cobra said on 27/Nov/05
There`s a scene in Pumping Iron on the stage, where Arnold and Lou are standing together.
I would say, Arnold was about 2 inches smaller.
Arnold was for sure l88 or at least 187 in his prime.
Gramps said on 26/Nov/05
Jason, Jason! Lou Ferrigno was always listed as 6'5" and Rob lists him here at 6'3.5". Now, I KNOW that Arnold wears lifts, but how could the "aging" Arnold be this close in height to Big Lou if Arnold was only 5'11" in his prime? Ya gotta give Arnold at LEAST 6'0" in his prime, if not even a bit more. Will you give me that much?
Jason said on 26/Nov/05
I don't think he was ever more than a solid 5'11''. He has very long legs for his height which makes him appear taller.
Zach said on 26/Nov/05
Couple of stills with 6'1 Carl Weathers:

http://www.yuanlei.com/movies/big/predator.jpg

Could be uneven ground though.

[Editor Rob: the only scene in predator worth comparing is the meeting in the hut at beginning. It 'appeared' arnie may have been marginally taller]
Gramps said on 25/Nov/05
Jason, I MIGHT believe (someday) that Arnie hit 6'1" in his twenties, but never any taller. I'm thinking more like 6'0" to 6'0.5", and today maybe 5'11". What say you?
Jason said on 25/Nov/05
I don't know about a full 6'1'' for Reg Parks, Gramps. But, he's at least 6'0''. And if Arnold looks 6'1'' or 6'2'' (disregarding comparing him to Reg Parks and Dave Draper) in that pic, I'll eat the bumper off a car lol.
Gramps said on 24/Nov/05
Check out the 40-something Reg Park here with a youthful Lou Ferrigno:
http://www.newyorkimages.com/Regparke.jpg
Gramps said on 24/Nov/05
Jason: Reg Park, who is listed more often at 6'2" than 6'0", says himself on his website that he was measured in 1956 (age 28) at 6'1". The guy has always looked at least 6'1".
hugh said on 24/Nov/05
I talked to one of his bodyguards in Germany and he said Arnold is very short
Elton said on 24/Nov/05
The picture with Park and Draper is a dodgy angle, Arnies furthest from the camera, so that makes him look shorter to start with, and if Park and draper, are both 6'1, then why dont they look the same height? reason, dodgy angle. There are plenty of pictures of Arnold with guys who are 6'2 and above, and he looks like he's in there height range.
Jason said on 24/Nov/05
Reg Park probably wasn't even a full 6'1'', Gramps. He's listed at both 6'0'' and 6'2'', and has said himself 6'1''. My hunch is he was 6'0 1/2'' and they just called it 6'0'' for that listing, the 6'2'' was in shoes, and his own 6'1'' was being generous.

And we can't really gather anything from that pic with Ali, Zach. Ali was 6'2 1/2'' in his prime and shrunk/hunches big time, otherwise it would be good.
Zach said on 24/Nov/05
Schwarzenegger and Muhammad Ali:

link
Gramps said on 24/Nov/05
Here's an interesting early photo of Arnold alongside Reg Park and Dave Draper, both 6'1":
http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.gmv.com.au/images/catalog/DaveDraper1.jpg
Even though the camera angle is not ideal, it's clear that Arnie is not as tall as the other two - - meaning he was maybe about an even 6'0" in his prime.
Jason said on 24/Nov/05
Bush Senior is no taller than Bill Clinton (who's listed here as 6'1''). I agree with Gotxo, I can still see Bush having a couple of inches on Arnold.
A-Bomb said on 24/Nov/05
Jason,
It's true Howard could be as low as 5'6" maybe slightly less. All I know is this. There was a report on Today Tonight 5 years ago on height. They mentioned Howard of course and gave this anecdote. That Aust PM Bob Hawke during the 80's used to call John Howard "The Little Man" despite Hawke actually being 2cm shorter than Howard - they never gave either of their heights. I'm very curious as to how tall both of these men are. Howard certainly gets ridiculed a lot for being "little".
A-Bomb said on 24/Nov/05
Yeah I'd say Bush is 5'11" first thing in the morning and 5'10 1/2 by the afternoon. They seemingly exxagerate about everything else I can't see why they wouldn't do the same about his height.
Gramps said on 23/Nov/05
Viper: When Arnold is clearly shown as the near-equal of George Bush, Sr. - - both in dress shoes - - how can you possible believe he is only 5'11"?
Gotxo said on 23/Nov/05
Nope, i was not saying that about the shoulders but about the term used by Arnie. Ectomorph and such jargon gives him no more authority.
Yes Bush junior is no more than 5'11" wich is not bad, but maybe he is near that, not it full
Zach said on 23/Nov/05
goatxo I see you have a personal issue with Arnold 'austriac son of a pro-nazi not being able to write something cultural' Schwarnzenegger, but anyway like Rob says from that pic theres visually any difference. If Bush stood military style, maybe thats a different story, my point was Bush Senior always stands like that due to old age and with his son he's still a couple of inches clear. Which means something fishy is going on with Bush junior's height when with Arnie and I suspect Bush Jnr is using lifts.

And with regards to shoulders, what you say bout ectomorph is bull, I'm a 5th year medic, trust me they're not a stationary entity to analyse height from so much is their variation amongst individuals of the same height.

And Arnie does have an encyclopedia: http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0684857219.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

gotxo said on 23/Nov/05
A pic from Arnie's own page, yet it's poor in quality is from the same series of shots than the one you posted Zach. Concentrate on their skulls, look at Bush dome, it has less hair tha Arnie's revealing beter where the skull ends. It's up to 2" taller than the other's, in spite of governators brushed hair.
http://www.schwarzenegger.com/en/news/uptotheminute/images/GeorgeBushAward-1.jpg
gotxo said on 23/Nov/05
Zach, you're you own ideas enemy by posting pics as that one, check it again if your mind works slow, and you'll see that arnie is smaller. Bush senior is a tall guy still in his old age, Arnie is tallish about 6'-to 6'0.5". Never in hell his 6'2" claimed height. Ectomorph only means out+shape and its used to describe in bodybuilding the kind of bodies with problems to improve areas of the body and to retain the aquired gain, Arnie is an Austriac son of a pro-nazi guy not able to write something as cultural as an Encyclopedy.
A-Bomb said on 23/Nov/05
Zach,
Taking into consideration that Bush is not standing in the best posture I'd say he looks an inch taller than Arnold in that picture. I reckon Bush is 6'1" these days making Arnold around 6'0". I agree though that shoulders can be deceptive in ascertaining heights. Rob who do you think looks the taller of the two based on that picture?

[Editor Rob: visually there's barely any difference, but Bush posture doesn't look that good, so Snr if straighter may be a bit more]
Zach said on 23/Nov/05
lol, I had to laugh at that comment Gotxo, I think you're seeing things. How on earth do you work out Bush is 2" taller than Arnie from that pic when its clear that Arnold himself is taller or at least the exact same height!

Anyway with regards to shoulders - they're more to do with genetic build than height. Arnold himself said in his Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding book that he had downwards sloping shoulders (classic ecto-mesomorph characteristic) and that this put him at a disadvantage back in his competing days.
Gramps said on 22/Nov/05
Zach: great pic of Arnie with Bush Sr. They look almost exactly the same height if Bush were standing straight up. So the question is, how tall is the elder Bush these days???
Gotxo said on 22/Nov/05
Zach, watch the pic you posted carefully, note arnie's shoulders are below bush ones. Also the top of the heads do not coincide, thougt the amount of hair of Arnie might be deceptive. Bush's neck is a bit downwards y forward at the same time, and due to age has not a so thick haired top. Draw your atention to their foreheads. He's 2 inches taller than arnie and is an old man.
Viper652 said on 22/Nov/05
Bush is somewhere between 5-9 to 5-11. Pretty much adds up to Arnie being no taller then 5-11,and no shorter then 5-10. I think he could be 5-10.5 on the spot personally.
tybor said on 22/Nov/05
Thanks Rob...great job on the site by the way.
Zach said on 22/Nov/05
Arnie and 6'2 George Bush SENIOR. Yes Bush is in his seventies but even these days he has a clear few inches on his son. I reckon Bush Junior was wearing lifts when with Arnie. You can clearly see Arnold's shoes here, they're definitely not of the Stallone variety.

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51808149.jpg?x=x&dasite=GettyImages&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=AB27D05020109421A8062743E3424C1FCF3BB3212BB6F95D94D2604A015CF9DF
Jason said on 22/Nov/05
Depends if you believe Howard is really 5'6 1/2'', A-Bomb. I doubt he is ... people have been taking the piss about how small he is ever since he's been in office. My guess is he's under 5'6''. A security guard I briefly knew years ago who had seen Howard in Person said he was 5'3'' ... though I think he was underestimating him.
A-Bomb said on 22/Nov/05
Watched some news coverage of Arnold a while back next to 5'6 1/2" PM John Howard (they're on getty images if you like). There seemed to be no more than 6 inches difference between the two of them. Unless lifts were involved he looks a solid 6'0", not under that, not really above it either. He also looks no more than an inch, maybe an inch an half taller than George Bush (5'10 1/2" / 5'11").
Anonymous said on 22/Nov/05
if vincent basile mesured arnie at 6 foot 1 and half at night it means he is aleast 6'2" in the morning
Anonymous said on 22/Nov/05
rob like you said that if you wear regular shoes you can hide 1 inch lift at best arnie looks 6'2" compare to 6'4" rapaport in the 6th day so arnie gotta aleast 6'1" and close to 6'2" at his peak and you right most of his career he looked 187cm range
Gramps said on 21/Nov/05
Rob, that Reg Park quote of being 6'1" is right on with his web site. Reg was 28 at the time of measurement.
elio said on 21/Nov/05
Reg does not look taller than arnold in the pics. In fact Reg looks shorter to me. Reg is on slightly higher ground in one pic and looks the same height as arnold. In another he is stood up much straighter than arnold and they come to the same level.

In the 'regpark1' pic the top of Reg's does look 'higher'. But the picture is obscured, so who knows how level the floor is?

Arnold looks taller in the DaveDraper1 pic. The 2nd one is harder to tell because Reg is closer to the camera and Arnold is on an angle.

Incidently the bodybuilder 'Vincent Basile' who DOES NOT like Arnold in the slightest, recently mentioned that he measured Arnold in the late 60s after evening training and said he was 6'1 1/2 inches exactly.


Mr. R said on 21/Nov/05
McFly, is it me, or did Arnold seem to get smaller after he lost the special election? Soon, he may have to borrow Sly's elevator shoes to pretend he is 6 feet!
Mr. R said on 21/Nov/05
Gramps, I agree. I think that Arnold in his prime was no more than 6-1, and now is no more than 6 feet. When he ran for governor of our state, his height came into question, because NO ONE believed the 6-2 account. Eventually, his own press secretary had to come out with 6 feet even, which may mean a little shorter.
Height Tracker said on 21/Nov/05
To me, the two look pretty much the same height.
Cobra said on 21/Nov/05
"Those Moeller photos support Arnold being TALLER not shorter! "

That`s was the reason I posted them. After the 5ft10 I wrote "very funny" ;)
Anonymous said on 21/Nov/05
reg look easily 2" taller
Gramps said on 21/Nov/05
Bodybuilder Reg Park has been listed at between 6'0" and 6'2" in various places, but his own website says 6'1", so it's a fair bet that he was not ever 6'2", but more likely the 6'1" he claims or just a shade under that. Here are a few early pics of Arnold and Reg together, barefooted:
http://members.aol.com/ArnoldTheLegend/ArnoldRegPark2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/aperezjd/050172d0.jpg
http://www.neogym-online.com/ima24/regpark1.jpg
http://www.gmv.com.au/images/catalog/DaveDraper1.jpg
http://www.gmv.com.au/images/catalog/DaveDraper2.jpg

It's clear from these photos that Arnold was not taller than Park, but maybe 1 cm or so shorter. This would mean that Arnold, barefooted and in his early prime, was less than 6'1", and most likely between 6'0" and 6'0.5". This measurement reconciles nicely with recent estimates of him being under 6'0".

[Editor Rob: I thought I had posted the reg quote on this page when his name was mentioned a while back, maybe I can't see it, but here it is again:

"Ray Beck measured me April 29, 1956 in Vancouver, BC, when I was visiting my aunt and uncle. Weight 230, Height 6'1"

So Ray himself has been measured at that height...]

Anonymous said on 20/Nov/05
6 feet looks pretty accurrate unless he is wearing any kind of special shoes i think...I'll take Arnold for my governor...you can have Grey Davis McFly
Gramps said on 20/Nov/05
Those Moeller photos support Arnold being TALLER not shorter! Assuming Ralf is 6'5", Arnold certainly looks a solid 6'1" next to him, not knowing the footwear of either man. Both guys are standing pretty straight. I am convinced that Arnold was a bit taller than 6 feet in his 20s/30s, but maybe just a hair under 6 feet now. Don't know if there is any veracity to the contention that weightlifting accelerates shrinking, but both Arnold and Ferrigno seem to have lost 1-2 inches since their prime. I'm the same age as them and I have lost only 0.5 cm in the past 35-40 years. Clint is another guy who has pumped a lot of iron over the years and his loss of height is almost shocking, as I believe he really was close to an honest 6'4" back in the '50s and '60s. Just my two cents.

[Editor Rob: you know even in the early 90's in Total Recall Arnie still looked in the 6ft 1 range.]
Zach said on 20/Nov/05
You really see 8 inches there between Moeller and Arnie???
Jason said on 20/Nov/05
Ralf is 196cm according to his official site, and you can bet your ass Arnold is wearing his elevator boots. Look at him trying to stand as straight as he humanly can lol.
Jason said on 20/Nov/05
Well, I wouldn't exactly call it a pencil neck ... the tilt of Arnold's great big jaw adds some to the effect you're talking about, too. Arnold slimmed down when he wasn't filming movies ... he wasn't his ''movie size'' all the time. As to the colouring, I think it's just the lighting - look how ''anemic'' Valentino's neck looks. I don't doubt that it's him.
Cobra said on 20/Nov/05
Pictures with 1,97 Ralf M
Gramps said on 19/Nov/05
Jason: the body has a "pencil neck," the coloring is different, and the upper body is anemic. Any other questions?
Jason said on 19/Nov/05
What makes you think that, Gramps?
A-Bomb said on 19/Nov/05
Icabrera,
That's the whole problem with when you compare celebrities with other celebrities. It's done a lot on this site when they claim somebody is "such" a height because they are next to someone else who is "this" height. Most of the time all they would have to do is look up that other person on this site to see that their height too is in dispute. That Valentino guy really looks to be struggling with 5'4" which actually goes some way in suggesting that Arnold is around 6'0' max.
Gramps said on 19/Nov/05
Hey guys, check out this Gregg Valentino photo (included in the montage presented below by Icabrera) and tell me Arnold's head wasn't pasted onto some other dude's neck!
http://www.greggvalentino.net/images/pictures/greggArnold_89.jpg
Jason said on 19/Nov/05
Greg Valentino is only really about 5'3'' according to IFBB pro bodybuilder Tom Prince -

''No one ever accused me of being tall, but compared to Valentino, I'm a giant. He's at least 5 inches shorter than I am, and I'm only 5'8". If Valentino is more than 13 inches away, I'll be out of reach if he throws a punch.''

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=240309&highlight=valentino+prince
kennethz said on 19/Nov/05
he maybe 6"2approximate (187cm) in his 20s.. lifting weight for body builder like him,it can cos man to be shorten 1 to 6cm maximum.. so i get all feedback and i'm sure his tall ..btw 182-184cm tall..
lcabrera said on 18/Nov/05
Oh man, i don`t know how people could believe Arnold is only 5'10''.
There`s this guy Viper652, how tall are you man? i think you must spend most of your time in this site affirming that all the big guys aren
bernar said on 17/Nov/05
http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9611/21/arnold/link.twins.jpg http://www.seiska.fi/images/filmiopas/titles/26/26447.jpg look at those pictures. you can see that on both images top of DeVito's head is on the height of the fourth Schwarzenegger's button. if we assume that DeVito's height is 147 cm like listed on this page we can calculate that Schwarzenegger's height is at least 185 cm. assuming that DeVito is 150 cm will make Arnold really big guy :)
TheMan said on 17/Nov/05
Arnold is not 5,10 lol. 6,0 minimum.
DDann said on 17/Nov/05
A good friend of mine attended a book signing by Arnold in Wash., DC about 15 years ago. He said when Arnold sat up to stretch that he had to look down at him. The friend is an honest 6 feet even and he guessed Arnold to be about 5' 10" at that time.
ryder said on 16/Nov/05
yeah,i think he was 6'1"in the 80's and certainly loses 1 or 2cm...6'1" is the size that we can find in the guiness book,so it's serious,isn't it??

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