How tall is Arnold Schwarzenegger - Page 30

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Average Guess (928 Votes)
Peak: 6ft 1.02in (185.5cm)
Current: 5ft 11.12in (180.6cm)
mike said on 9/Feb/06
I bet the costars of these controversial celebs such as Arnie and Stallone must know their real heights, or at least with a 1-2 inch radius. I mean take Tom Arnold, for example who worked with Arnie and did alot of scenes together(where they looked the same height or Arnie by a inch) in True Lies, between these 2 they know whose taller, or if their the same height, also Arnie has worked with Jesse Ventura in 2 films whose 6'4 i think or used to be, these guys gotta know the truth.The T3 chick is supposively 5'11, i wonder whose taller between her and Arnie. Also photos can be decieving, i've seen plenty of Arnie and Bush pics where its anhywhere from Bush being an inch taller to Arnie being 3 inches taller, just google or yahoo them. Ive seen Stallone and Arnie pics where Arnie's 2-4 inches taller, but ive seen the Stallone pic with Denzel Washington whose listed at 6 feet like Arnie, where Stallone is the same height as Denzel. I also seen one pic of Arnie visiting a museum in 2002 with some dude and they had a couple of photos which Arnie is wearing regular sneakers, and i couldnt see what the other guy was wearing for shoeware but Arnie was taller, he looked a good six feet but he didnt have that 6'2 look, the only reason i say that is because the pic had their whole body from head to toe in it.i just cant believe with Arnie it's like a 4 inch gap, he can be anywhere from 6'2 to 5'10. myself im 6'2 people say i'm 6'1 to 6'3, but usually it's 6'2
Jason said on 9/Feb/06
2.5'' tops? He looks 3 + inches taller again in that pic, too ... though he's slightly closer to the camera. At any rate, he appears a substantially taller man than Arnold even in his old age. He was 6'3'' in his prime, so most likely only 6'2'' and change at best in 2002 at around 67 years old.
CelebHeights Editor said on 9/Feb/06
Here is that Richard E Grant Quote. In his book he also described Robbins as 6ft 4.

"I meet the financial and physical muscle of Tinseltown, in the form of Stallone and Schwarzenegger, both of whom are taking turns to bear-hug Bruce. Both of whom are substantially shorter than six foot. Which surprises."
Elio said on 9/Feb/06
Rafer Johnson looks 3-4" taller?

More like 2.5" tops.

And now I'm going to test if html tags work on these forums.
This work?
Jason said on 9/Feb/06
Arnold had an awesome build in Conan the Barbarian (the first Conan movie) if you've seen it.
Alex said on 9/Feb/06
I am into working out a lot, I been into it for about 3 years now. I am in good shape and built pretty good. I wouldn't really wanna look like Arnold when he was at his peak anyway. I'd wanna look like say Kurt Angle or John Cena from WWE. Where you're big and built but not like a freak or something, for example like Ron Coleman.
Alex said on 9/Feb/06
Damn, that pic with Arnold I just saw that Rob posted about his body looking old and creaky. He looks like crap there.
Alex said on 9/Feb/06
Arnold I think was at least 6'0 in his prime, but possibly could have been closer to 6'1 probably, but not under 6'0 though. Today he's 5'11 I'd say. Could Arnold have lost 2 inches over the years?
Viper652 said on 9/Feb/06
Brett, the 6-1 and 6-2 heights were MAJOR exaggerations.
Jason said on 9/Feb/06
There's a pic of 6'3'' former Olympic gold medalist decathlete Rafer Johnson handing the Olympic torch to Arnold in 2002 in this article:

Johnson looks 3-4 inches taller despite being 67 years old at the time of the pic.

[Editor Rob: yeah, Rafer Johnson, in 1960 time article was described as 6ft 3...he was brought up a while ago here on the Tom Cruise thread where Cruise was beside the 5ft 5 girl, klitscho and rafer at the 2004 olympic thing - here

Arnies shoes and another pic]
Jason said on 9/Feb/06
Yeah, well that's my whole point, that he was very big naturally for his age. The sooner pubery sets in, the sooner your growth plates close. That's why people with the condition precocious puberty tend to end up being short adults. Your bones continue to develop thickness wise, and your muscles and ligaments etc. continue to develop for years after you cease growing in height, though. The end of growth in height doesn't mean the end of growth elsewhere.
Jason said on 9/Feb/06
I know how you felt, Brett. I'm a big Arnold fan (of his movies at least) and I always thought he was 6'2'', as well. About 5 years ago I read his height (from a bodybuilding competition) as 6'1 1/2'', though ... so went with that from then on. No biggie, being 6'1 1/2'' instead of 6'2'' doesn't subtract from his image. Then a couple of years back I find out he's not even 6'0'' lol! Now being 5'11'' instead of 6'2'' DOES subtract from his whole image.
Elio said on 9/Feb/06
Jason, very few teenagers take bodybuilding as seriously as Arnold did. Most don't have a clue how to train properly, hence why so many go on to either injure themselves or show little or no development after years of 'training'. Either way, it's incredibly difficult to know with 100% accuracy whether a teenager is taking steroids. They're never going to admit to it if they are. Ronnie Coleman did a talk to young people about 3 years ago where he himself DENIED ever having used any form of steroids. Unbelievable!! :)

The majority of Arnold's first 'bodybuilding' photos are from when he was 16, just after a years of training. Although he looks big for a 16 year old, he looks very small in comparisson to how he would end up at age 20 and beyond.

As for his chest size, 40 inches is average for a male. So while he had a large chest for his age... it may have gone on to be 45" by age 18 if he had never picked up a weight. Instead it went up by at least 10 inches through training.

On other words, anatomical size alone cannot prove someone's stage in puberty. Children of tall parents are often taller than their peers well before puberty. So the fact that a kid may be 6 foot with a large chest at age 15 does not necessarily indicate that they have reached the end of puberty. They may go on to grow several more inches and end up with an even larger chest by the time they reach adulthood.

Also, the age Arnold starting taking steroids is NOT up in the air. It is age 15 as confirmed by his trainer. Nobody who knew him has ever claimed anything younger. I'm not sure, but I imagine the only professional who may have indicated it was any earlier may have been Wendy Leigh, whose book has been proven by a court to be full of lies.
Height Tracker said on 9/Feb/06
Wow Rob! I can't believe Arnie really looked like that. What year was that picture taken?

[Editor Rob: it was early 2005...but given he's late 50's, not as if he's doing movies anymore...

I remember around the time of T3 there were other pics of him and a story about digitally enhancing arnie was floating about...his physique in 2002 was better and back in 2000 you can see how he looked: Arnie in 2000.]
Brett said on 8/Feb/06
I cannot comment on his peak height, only on his current height, as thats all I have evidence on, and from what Ive said, he really is closer to 5'11" then 6'0". I mean I was always a big Arnie fan, prior to seeing the pic of him with my friend I thought he was a good 6'2", haha the whole thing has ruined the Image I had of my child hood action hero. One thing I find hard to believe is that if he was supposedly 6'2" or 6'1.5", how would he have dropped like 2.5 odd inches or more in height? especially when one considers he had pretty good posture, and 2.5-3 inches is big height drop?

[Editor Rob: even Arnie's body a few years ago was beginning to show old and creaky.]
Viper652 said on 8/Feb/06
Ive learned over the last couple of years that most bodybuilder heights are inflated.
Jason said on 8/Feb/06
Lots of teenagers train their asses off. Just go to any bodybuilding forum lol. It's very rare, however, to see one who's physique resembles Arnold's at a corresponding age. The age at which Arnold began using steroids is also up in the air. Many teens unfortunately use them anyways, and again, it's very rare to see one with an Arnold-like physique for their age even so.

Besides this, Arnold already had the build of an athletic full grown man *before* he even started weight training if you read his books. His relaxed chest measurement prior to weight training was 41'' despite him being very lean. This in itself clearly shows he was an early developer.
MHouillon said on 8/Feb/06
5'11.5" (182cm) (obey his footwear).
Elio said on 7/Feb/06
The real question regarding Arnold's 'advanced' physique at 15, is :

'how many teenagers train as much and as hard as he did, and take the steroid 'dianabol'?

I agree that on average an early developer will finish earlier than a late developer, but this is not always the case. So by assuming that Arnold was an early starter AND early finisher, it leaves far too much doubt in my (and others here) eyes that he definately stopped growing UNDER 6 feet.

The chances are that the guy started puberty around 11-12 and finished at 17-18 like most people. Don't mistake a 15 year old who takes steroids and trains with heavy weights to be an advanced developer in the realms of puberty.

I think it's important to reach a decision on these things based purely on facts and not guesses and assumptions.
Elio said on 7/Feb/06
Jason, saying he was an early developer is a unproven statement.
Saying that early developers necessarily stop growing at 15 is also an unproven statement. Although it seems that there is some truth in disc compression from VERY heavy weights, we have to remember that it hasn't been 'proven'.

here are some facts:

1) One reputable source claims to have measured arnold as 5'11 3/4 at age 15.
2) One reputable source claims to have measured arnold as 6'1 1/2 at age 21
3) Arnold claimed in 1969 (aged 21) to be 6'2"
4) Arnold claimed in 1980 (aged 32-33) to be "about 6'1.5" "
5) During the height of his movie fame (1982-2000) he claimed 6'2"
6) In 2003, One person on his staff said 56 year old Arnold was exactly 6' when several people claimed he was under 6'2". There is no evidence to prove Arnold was measured or contacted prior to this information being given, e.g it was going off the staff member's 'guess'.

I think it's completely unfeasible to believe that Arnold was 5'11.5" at his tallest. He was PROBABLY NEVER as tall as 6'2". But probably was AT LEAST 6'1.5" at his tallest. He still looks 6'0" minimum today, and that's taking his shoes into consideration too.

My opinion : PEAK = 6'1.5" , NOW = 6'0"
Anonymous said on 6/Feb/06
Yeh id agree, he may have had an inch on my friend, so thats why I dont so much care that hes listed at 6'0" even, 1/2 an inch here or there isnt much
Jason said on 6/Feb/06
I'd give him around 5'11 1/2'' when he was younger for now, Brett. He was measured at 182cm (almost 5'11 3/4'') at age 15 by his bodybuilding trainer ... by the looks of things and taking into account he was an early developer, that was most likely his final adult height. Agree he's shrunk some & all that weight lifting didn't do him much good in the height department, though.
Jason said on 6/Feb/06
5'10-5'11 isn't short, Leung. I guess you must be one of those people who think they're taller than they are...
Brett said on 5/Feb/06
Viper for once I agree with you and Jason, the dude is under 6'0", as I said, he was barely taller then my 5'10"- 5'10.5 friend, although I suppose its feasible he was once upon a time 6'0", I mean the extreme weightlifting wouldnt do him any good in maintaing his peak height. All you guys need to do is see the size of Arnies heels in the Hummer shot( like 2.5 inches or so) and youll see that he really isnt tall.
Leung said on 5/Feb/06
Standing 6
Jason said on 5/Feb/06
Exactly, Viper. I don't know how people can believe he's 6'1'' and 6'2'' when the guy's own reps state he's 6'0'' and add 6'2'' is incorrect. What more do you want?
1234 said on 5/Feb/06
It was believed that Arnold would have a crane hidden in the buildings so that he could be lifted off the grounds during a photo shoots.
Viper652 said on 4/Feb/06
Shoot, even Arnolds reps now give him a height of just 6-0. That is even inflated. The dude is 5-10.5 now.
Jason said on 4/Feb/06
I mean hordes and hordes of people who saw the man in person and estimated him to be below 6 foot. There's just too many of them. I realize many people would have expected him to be huge in height as well, but still, you're just not going to mistake a 6'1''-6'2'' man for 5'10''. You just don't get these kind of estimates and stories etc. with legitimate 6'2'' guys like Hugh Jackman and Eric Bana.
cantstop25 said on 4/Feb/06
well he looks minimum 2 inches taller then clooney in that pic so I do not see how this proves arnie is under 6'

"you sure as hell wouldn't have hordes and hordes of people estimating him to be 5'10''-5'11'' over the years"

its simple arnie is this larger then life individual and everybody wants to think they can be the next arnold and look huge and menacing on camera, and with camera effects they can (stallone is only about 5'8") however arnold really is a taller then most people. The same applies to prowrestlers though some may not be quite as tall as there listed height they are still very tall guys.
Jake said on 4/Feb/06
Sure, Arnold looks tall next to Glenn, but his height is innconsistant. Look at him with George Clooney who falls short of 5'11". (I believe this picture was brought up before, but I think it has to be looked at agian.)
I don't see Arnold over 6 feet. I know there are some pictures that make him look taller, but inconsistant height is a sign of lifts/elevator shoes.
Jason said on 4/Feb/06
If he were really 6'1 1/2'' you sure as hell wouldn't have hordes and hordes of people estimating him to be 5'10''-5'11'' over the years...
Warlord said on 3/Feb/06
You people who think he's 5'11" or less are fools. I know people who have met him. He might not be a 100% full 6 foot 2, but he's certainly taller than 6 foot 1. It's amazing how foolish some people are.
cantstop25 said on 3/Feb/06
looks atleast an inch taller then eric bana who after watching munich I believe to be a legit 6'3"

n this picture of arnold with ferrigno arnold looks about .5 inch shorter, though obviously arnolds shoes are likely to be bigger due to the fact that lou is probably in trainers lou is about 6'4" and I dont see how arnold can possibly be under 6'1"
cantstop25 said on 3/Feb/06
The man is a legit 6'2" probably taller then many other celebs who claim that they are 6'2" the only reason that he does not look it is because of his massive build and that he has a very big head. Is arnold listed on this site at 6'0" simply because of the photos of him stading next to President Bush because like a previous poster stated bush himself could have been in lifts.
Anonymous said on 3/Feb/06
Arnie is the only guy/actor Ive seen who openly wears monster heels, I think that explains the diff between my friends pic where arnies like 5'11", and Glenns pic, and others. If you look at the Hummer pic, youll see arnie has some serious whopper heels on
Anonymous said on 3/Feb/06
when i saw the movie the run down n when arnold walk past THE ROCK arnold looked 2 inches shorter than 6'4'' rock so 6'2'' is da best result for arnold
Chris said on 2/Feb/06
if you watch the making of the terminator, james cameron states that he is huge and at 6'3..

I'm so confused.. >_<
Jason said on 1/Feb/06
Arnold has proportionately very long legs if you've ever checked out his bodybuilding pics. 5'11 1/2'' in his prime makes sense taking his leg length into account, he does indeed have the leg length of a taller man.
Mario said on 1/Feb/06
Glenn's picture suggest that he was 6 ft 2 at his prime. In Twins he barefoot next to DeVito who is 4 ft 10, and Schwarzenegger can't be much than 6 ft 2, unless DeVito his under this mark.

There are plenty of movie's in wich we see him barefoot and his legs are long. I tottaly agree with Rob that he was 187 cm at his peak and I think that he is 6 ft 0.5 nowedays.
Jason said on 1/Feb/06
I reckon Arnold was 5'11 1/2'' in his prime and slightly shorter today.
Buster said on 1/Feb/06
You misunderstood Brett. I'm not saying he's 6'3". But IN SHOES he stood at 6'3" next to the hummer. That means if he was wearing 2 inch heel shoes he'd be 6'1", 3" shoes 6'0, and so on.
Brett said on 1/Feb/06
Leave him at 6'0", but he really isnt, and he does not look 6'3" next to the hummer , what a joke Buster.
Dex said on 31/Jan/06
I have looked at a lot of bodybuilding pictures of Arnold in his early days when he was say 21 to 24. In these pictures he stands beside other Bodybuilders like Bill Pearl and Sergio Olivia (all barefeet) who accurately claim to be between 5'9 and 5'10. Arnold was taller than these guys in the late 60`s and early 70`s but only by two inches at the MOST leaving him between 5`11 and 6'0
and I would say closer to 5`11 but definately not over 6`0. I think it is possible that by the mid 70`s and early 80`s. Arnold as a mature adult was probably over 6`0 and maybe even 6`1 or 6`1 1/2. However, based on pictures I have seen with him standing beside George Bush and George Clooney recently (1995-2005)I think it is safe to conclude he has "shrunk" back to the height of his youth of between 5`11 and 6`0. Hey, where there is smoke there is fire. If Arnold was an unquestionable 6` 2'' why would so many people be casting doubht on it! In Pumping Iron, Arnold was described as 6`2 and 240lbs. When he stood up after breakfast with Lou and his dad he looked like a dwarf beside both of them! In Pumping Iron he was huge. But he partly looked huge because he was probably under 6`0. At 6`2 his 240lbs would not have filled out his frame the way it would at 5`11 or 6`0. Finally, after much inquiry Arnold`s press people reported his height at EXACTLY 6`0 during the California governor race. First of all, nobody is exactly anything. His own press people issued a statement he was 6`0 rather than 6`2 and I bet you anything that they rounded up. Enough said!
Buster said on 31/Jan/06
actually he 'stood' at 6'3" next to that hummer if you measure it correctly. Which suggests he is 6'0" / 6'1"
Brett said on 31/Jan/06
yeh but Arnold always looks 6'2", but he is one of the few guys who openly has humungus heels. Ive seen him with my 5'10 friend and he was barely an inch taller then him, so if you want to be ultra generous, give him 6'0", but 6'2" youve got to be joking. Ive seen visual proof too, I could get lots of witnesses who met him with my friend to vouch for this too. He really isnt tall. If any of you have seen The pic with Arnie and the hummer in his big heals,youll lose the idea that hes 6'2".You know the height of the hummer is like 77 inches or something ( it was posted on here ags ago) you can see arnie is hardly more then a 6'0" guy would be next to the hummer, but he had like 2 inch or more heels on, so I am damn sure he isnt 6'0" now, maybe in his prime.
cantstop25 said on 30/Jan/06
glenn said himself that arnold looked 6'2". I think that this man should be immedaitely upgraded to 6'1"
Danimal said on 29/Jan/06
I agree with the Judge and Jone, you are hilarious.
The Judge said on 27/Jan/06
Mr.Arnold certainly loses 1 or 2 cm because of his age but no more. He's 58 years old ,not 75 !! There's no doubt : Mr.Arnold was and is a tall man, probably 6'1" or 6'1,5" in the 80's...So he's 183-184 cm now, maybe 185 cm.
Leung said on 26/Jan/06
Come on people! I have to repeat dennis' comment, Arnold is 6'2".

Joe said on 25/Jan/06
wow, if clooney is 5'9 then i'd give arnold 5'10.5 in that pic.
Brett said on 25/Jan/06
In his dreams, I dont think hes ever been more then 6'0, and hes under it now.
dennis said on 25/Jan/06
arnold is 6''2 and always has been
elio said on 24/Jan/06
Yeah Danimal, looking a second time I see between 1.5" - 2"
No less and no more. However, my apologies for my initial remarks, Gramps.

I don't think it helps Arnold that he has his head leaned back in this photo.

6ft does seems right though.

Danimal said on 23/Jan/06
Elio, actually, I don't even a see 2.5" difference there. Maybe 1.5" or MAX 2"
elio said on 23/Jan/06

Only 1 inch between Clooney and Schwarzenegger?


2 1/2 inches ... easy!
Danimal said on 22/Jan/06
My apologies Cycklops.
Cycklops said on 22/Jan/06
Danimal, don't talk crap about other people on the site. Especially behind their back.

You're "bias" accusation is meaningless and annoying.
Danimal said on 22/Jan/06
Take into account that pic was taken 8-9 years ago and Arnold may have shrunk a bit since then as well, dropping him below 6'1".
Danimal said on 22/Jan/06
Either way, I see a 3" difference between Holyfield and Tyson and Arnold is at least a half an inch taller than Holyfield. Arnold = 6'1 1/2". Minimum 6'1" if in fact Holyfield is only 6'0.5".
Gramps said on 22/Jan/06
Gotxo, Arnold's head position (tilted back) only gives the photographic illusion of added height. If his head moved forward, like Clooney's, it would be more clear that Arnie only has a slim 1" advantage.
Jason said on 22/Jan/06
Holyfield's straight, Tyson's leaning into him. I think that pretty much cancels out Tyson being on his toes on ONE foot. *rolls eyes* Are you dyslexic? No offence ... I just seriously do wonder.
Danimal said on 21/Jan/06
And Jason, can't you see that Tyson is on his tippy toes in that last pic??? Jason, I thought only Cycklops was biased, but you sometimes only see what you want to see as well. Arnold is a tall man. Not as tall as he used to be, but still a 6 footer, or damn near close to it.
Danimal said on 21/Jan/06
Oh come one Jason, you are SO biased. Holyfield CLEARLY has 3 inches on Tyson in that first pic where their hands are being raised. He was listed at 6'2 1/2", but is NO less than 6'1". I am a HUGE boxing fan. Arnold was 6'1"-6'1 1/2" in his prime and today is 5'11 1/2"-6'0", but NO LESS. None of this 5'10" crap!
Gotxo said on 21/Jan/06
Gramps, in my opinion he has more than one inch on Clooney, but as we know, Mr. R has nailed him down as a shade under 5'10" so..
Gramps said on 21/Jan/06
Sorry, Jason, but Arnie is only 1" taller than Clooney in that photo.
crazylarry said on 21/Jan/06

chyna is 5'10" arnold is about 4 inches taller. and chyna is 5'10" she was the same exact height as 6'2" colin mocrie(spelling?) in whose line is in anyway
elio said on 21/Jan/06
Height Detective,

Arnold looks to be standing about 2 1/2" taller than Clooney in your posted pic

If Clooney is 5'10.5" (as listed on here) and a FAN of big shoes (proven by many eye witnesses) then Arnold (assuming he's wearing the same type of shoes as Clooney) would be standing around the 6'1" mark (barefoot).
Jason said on 21/Jan/06
Holyfield's only like 6'0'' - 6'1''. They boosted his height big time.

- Holyfield with 5'10'' Tyson at the weigh-in for their 1997 fight.

- Another one with Tyson slouching.

- In the ring with Tyson.
Gramps said on 21/Jan/06
Arnie is obviously wearing magic shoes in that Holyfield photo. Today at work I double-checked a co-worker's photo on his office wall of he and Arnold wearing suits during Arnold's gubernatorial campaign. My buddy is 5'10.5" and Arnold was about 1" taller than him in the photo. Do the math!
Height Detective said on 20/Jan/06
Height Detective said on 20/Jan/06

He is more near the 5ft 11 than 6 ft...
Mario said on 20/Jan/06
Watch his movie's with DeVito. In twins we see Arnie Barefoot and he doesn't look any shorter than 185 cm, most likely 188 cm.

There is so much Arnie hate, and since he has sentenced that Tookie guy there are more and more Arnie haters. He is a great guy and tall too, accept it.
Jason said on 20/Jan/06
I'd take a lot of that stuff with a grain of salt, Danimal. Arnold stated himself in his books that he's never weighed more than 245 - 250lbs at any point of his life. Yet I see claims of him being 260 - 265 in there.
CoolJ said on 20/Jan/06;topic=7149.0;id=9829;image

Holyfield was always about 6'1.. and Arnold appears 6'2 in this picture.

Brett said on 20/Jan/06
Hes no way 6'2", and he openly wears lifts, I am sure he is under 6'0" nowadays, he wouldnt have looked my 5'10" friend in the eye if he were 6'2", just as I dont. This is guy is one of the few of my friends I would believe , and as that quote above goes "He wears risers in his boots. He's a 5ft 10in citizen of Austria who believes his real place in history is to be president of the United States". I dont really care that his listed height on here is 6'0" because I still want to believe that Arnie is of reasonable size, and has just shrunk 3.5-4inches haha.
Danimal said on 20/Jan/06
A REAL STORY from a former PRO-Bodybuilder: Vince Basile
Olympia Level

Well, gentlemen, I measured Arnold's height in Feb 1969 at Mit's Gym in Honolulu. Several of the guys there claimed certain heights and everyone was at least 1/2 inch shorter on Mit's scale. Arnold claimed 6' 2" but measured 6' 1 1/2" that evening. I did say that he might be 6-2 in the morning. Why? Well there was a famous story of a guy who wanted to get into the police force in New York but failed to meet the minimum height then of 5'8". He succeeded in passing by getting his mates to bring him in on an ironing board in the morning before he stood up! So we do shrink during the day.

In October 1968 I measured his upper arms at 21 1/2" and he was about 62 inches around the shoulders. He wouldn't let me measure calves that day telling me to come back in 2 weeks. I returned to Canada so never got to measure his calves. In those days Arnold was pretty straight forward and posed for photos, etc. I took an image of Arnold that was published in Muscle Training Illustrated. That day that he posed I ran out of film and took only a couple of images.
Danimal said on 20/Jan/06
Arnold and Evander Holyfield in the the 1990's:;topic=7149.0;id=9829;image
Danimal said on 20/Jan/06
And More: In this thread, I attributed Frank Zane with making a comment about Arnold's bodyweight being 265lbs. during the summer of 1972. After doing a literature search, I found the reference that I thought that I had remembered. Actually Zane was commenting on Arnold's bodyweight during the summer of 1970. The reference is Iron Man, May 1972, Vol. 31 No. 4 with Chris Dickerson on the cover, page 16 and Frank states "This year I feel Arnold made a mistake in his training. Whereas he weighed 235 at the Mr. Olympia, he went up to 260 afterwards and stayed there. He ate like a horse all year...The result was that he was much smoother than he was the year before. Nevertheless he made up for his overbulking craze by training relentlessly hard that summer". I think he did the same thing in summer of 1972. He was certainly huge. Accompanying this article were 2 striking photos of Arnold taken by Christine Zane that I do not believe have ever been posted on the internet. The one on page 16 is a back double biceps shot where Arnold's calves look absolutely huge and the one on page 17 is a side single arm (right) biceps shot. The caption on page 17 says the photos were taken " the time he won the most recent Mr. Olympia title and while he was giving some shows in England." This would be the 1971 Olympia. The lighting looks minimal, perhaps a single overhead spotlight, hence giving some striking effects. Perhaps David would know when this exhibition occurred.
Danimal said on 20/Jan/06
More from Iron Age: Re:Arnold Schwarzenegger's "REAL" Height!!!-and he's NOT 6-'2"
Danimal said on 20/Jan/06
If any of you are interested in finding out how LARGE Arnold had gotten in his bodybuilding heyday, then look at this article posted on the Iron Age Forum:
Re:Arnold Schwarzenegger's "REAL" Height!!!-and he's NOT 6-'2"
Glenn said on 20/Jan/06
he always looked 6-2 to me.time to update certain heights.
Brett said on 19/Jan/06
As I told Rob privately, I have a good friend doing business in China, and Arnie was over in Shanghai in the last couple months, and my friend attended the meeting and shook hands with arnold. The first thing he said to me was " hes really not tall at all" , now this shocked me as A) my friend is only like 5'10." and B) Ive always percieved Arnie to be HUUGE.
He said he was within a half inch of his own height, and that he was not even six feet tall. Now usually when I see an encounter im skeptical about it, but seeing this is one of my closest friends, and he had no reason to lie, I do believe him.
Had I not heard this I would be on here writing that only idiots/jealous types would bother saying he is under 6'0", and that it is pathetic to suggest it, but I do believe now it is not the case, and if he appears to be 6'2" he must have a near 4 inch heel in his shoe. Plus in the picture with him next to that H2 hummer, he is in a huuge pair of heels, and is still barely over 6'0" if you compare him to the roof height of the car. So Its not like hes never worn huge shoes before.
Cantstop25 said on 19/Jan/06
arnold does look 6'2" in that pic, he looks a lot taller then heath ledger did next to glenn. Glenn how tall do you think he was?
Danimal said on 19/Jan/06
Joe Weider hailed from my hometown and he indeed was 5'10" and between 160-165 pounds in his younger days. Arnold was always a good 3-4 inches taller than him. Arnold was at least 6'1", compared to Dave Draper, Serge Nubret, Reg Park, Lou Ferrigno, Mike Katz, and the list invariably goes on...
Anonymous said on 19/Jan/06
That photo of Arnold "being measured,"...if Arnold backed up eight feet and the camera was elevated to six feet off the ground, by my precise calculations he would have been EXACTLY 6'0.5".................. :-)
elio said on 19/Jan/06
Danimal, Joe Weider was 5'11" from everything I've heard.

If there's one person on this board who can potentially get Arnold downgraded further... it's got to be Jone.
Jason said on 19/Jan/06
If Reg Park were really 6'2'', there wouldn't be 6'1'' and 6'0'' listings for him, also. Not to mention the man himself said a friend measured him at 6'1''. He was most likely around 6'0 1/2''.
Danimal said on 19/Jan/06
Since when was there a consensus 16 year old guy? I don't think Arnold was 6'0". He was at least 6'1", seeing Reg Park was 6'2":
Danimal said on 18/Jan/06
1974 Mr. Olympia with Lou Ferrigno and Arnold:

This is what I commented on just below.
Danimal said on 18/Jan/06
Take into account that Joe Weider was 5'10" and wearing shoes... Arnold was 6'1"-6'2" and Lou was 6'4"-6'5".
6 foot 1, 16, still growing said on 17/Jan/06
You guys have done a good job with this one. arnie is no 6 foot 2 guy. he's 6 foot. good job.
Buster said on 17/Jan/06
Arnold was clearly around the same height as 6'1" Reg Park.

Steve has been smoking crack if he honestly thinks 5'9"
Danimal said on 16/Jan/06
UK Terminator fan, I think you're mistaken? I was the one who provided those 3 pics...BTW, Arnold was NO less than 6'0". Also, I think Jone is a guy, not a girl! I may be wrong though ;).
UK Terminator fan said on 16/Jan/06
Excellent picture Jason. A barefoot extremely, muscular, youthful Arnold looked no more than 5ft 11.5.

The only height growth Arnold managed from there was his choice of footwear.

A picture of Arnold in barefeet with definite 6ft ers does not lie.

Jone u r one crazy gall!!!
Gramps said on 16/Jan/06
Danimal, did you notice that Arnold was the SAME height as Draper in your first photo? Now, realizing that the angle in your second photo is detrimental to Arnold, doesn't he nevertheless look a bit puny compared to the other two guys? I'd have to give Arnold >6'0" but <6'1". Whatcha think Danimal? (BTW, Rob is right, I believe 6'1" is correct for Reg.)

Jason said on 16/Jan/06
Reg Park was most probably 6'0'' and change given there's also a 6'0'' listing for him, as well.
Viper652 said on 15/Jan/06
"Hey viper, what do you think of a 5'11 1/2'' peak height for Arnold?"

That is probably right Jason.
Danimal said on 15/Jan/06
Gramps, GREAT pic! I've never seen that one before. My question to you is where exactly are you getting 6'0 1/2" for Reg Park? He is both listed as 6'1" and 6'2". You are accurate in stating that Dave Draper was in fact 6'0".

Here is a pic taken from the early seventies with 6'0" Dave Draper and 6'1" "Big" Mike Katz and Arnold of course:

Here's a pic with 6'0" Dave Draper, 6'1"-6'2" Reg Park and Arnold:

Dave Draper with 6'0" Serge Nubret (note: Dave is in shoes, hence the 1"+ height difference.:

[Editor Rob: it's been mentioned before. Park has gone onrecord as saying he was measured 6ft 1. Was he the kind of guy to lie about his height? I've no idea...]
Gramps said on 15/Jan/06
So I guess Arnold grew a few inches since his twenties, following this photo of him with the 6'0.5" Reg Park and the 6'0" Dave Draper?
Jason said on 15/Jan/06
6'3'' in shoes there is pushing it. 6'2'' maybe. Personally, I'm starting to believe Arnold really was 5'11 1/2'', which would see him at 6'2'' in shoes with lifts and make him appear a 6'1'' guy.
elio said on 15/Jan/06
In Jone's defense, I think the 'being in a plane' story belonged to someone else, not Jone. :)

Personally, my favourite was when he said Arnold had been measured with a tape measure that had the first two inches cut off the end of the tape measure, making him seem two inches smaller! :) . I don't think he thought the logic of that one through.

He looks to be standing as high as 6'3" in shoes in the pic of you two (despite you being slightly further back). Would he really be able to walk properly in lifts that give about 5 inches of extra height (if he was 5'10")?
Danimal said on 15/Jan/06
Jone, you've been on a plane with Arnold several times? You have seen him on the beach. You cousin measured him personally in a storage room in 1982 and now you workout with him too? Do you actually believe your own stories. More importantly, how do you expect us too? You are the only person in the world, including Arnold himself, who states that Arnold is 6'4", YET, you give men like The Undertaker as less height than Arnold???
Glenn said on 15/Jan/06
ive heard 5-10 as well.possible.he was big in 1992.lifts?
notadumbass said on 15/Jan/06
arnold does not wear risers and i have seen him in several pictures and on tv and videos where he stands next to people 5'10 and he looks at least a few inches taller then those people, he is 6'2 for for, i remember he stood next to a 5'11 man he he looked considerably taller, btw dont u people ahve a life stop talkin about this
Antony said on 14/Jan/06
Jone, i cant believe we have such a difference of opinion. he is only 5ft 10. I stood next to him 2 years ago, said hello and shook his hand. Im 5ft 10 too, hes no taller than me.
Gramps said on 14/Jan/06
For you guys unfamiliar with Jone, you should know he went to high school with Arnold ijn Austria, was Arnold's coach and training partner during his Mr. Olympia years, appeared in all his movies as Arnold's stunt man, and now serves as Arnold's Border Security Czar for the State of California. He bodyguards and measures Arnold in his spare time. At least in the World According to Jone.
Antony said on 13/Jan/06
Im 5ft 10 inches tall, i shook hands with Arnie at a film premiere, trust me hes 5ft 10.
elio said on 13/Jan/06
The pic with stallone looks like it might be more than 2 inches to me. More like 3.

Either way... stallone has been seen standing almost exact height as 6'1 listend Denzel Washington (6'0 on here). So Stallone could be around 5'11/6'0 with 'shoes' on. Add 2-3" for Arnold and it paints a picture of Arnold standing 6'2"-6'3" in shoes. You have to remember that someone who stands 6'3" in shoes will only look as if they're 6'1"-6'2" to everyone else.
Anonymous said on 13/Jan/06
Well, Jone, here's Arnold with Stallone, and only about 2" separating them:
TheMan said on 13/Jan/06
About Steve Austin he's almost deffently lost some height in the 6 years of the mugshot. How much is the question?
Cobra said on 13/Jan/06
Everyone can see that Arnold in the picture with Glenn (and its not his peak height) is for sure 6ft2 or 6ft1,5.
Jason said on 13/Jan/06
Hey viper, what do you think of a 5'11 1/2'' peak height for Arnold?
Jason said on 13/Jan/06
Actually, I reckon if you did a search you'd find some proof steroids can shrink people. Steroids can indeed affect bone integrity, so it only seems logical they can lead to shrinkage. Of course, it would depend on the amounts used.
Danimal said on 12/Jan/06
Jone, you're quite the comedian. Ever consider taking your routine on the road ;). BTW, there is no conclusive medical evidence to prove that steroids shrink people..Age, surgeries, poor posture and perhaps very HEAVY weightlifting will contribute, but NOT steroids. They have other side effects. Do your research Jone and seriously consider stand up as a new profession.I believe it's your NEW calling ;).
OnCapeCod said on 12/Jan/06
5'11". That's it. It's CRAZY how insane people get here.
elio said on 12/Jan/06

Arnold showed you his hollowed out shoes that time when he went on a camping trip with you and your cousin in the mountains of Austria. Then he proved that he was 6'6" by extending his neck fully (he has a retractable neck... like a tortoise). To end the night you all took 'shrinking pills' (TM) over the campfire, whilst toasting marshmellows.
Jason said on 12/Jan/06

Glenn said Arnold always looked 6'2'' to him. Weird. That pic is from 1992.
Anshelm said on 11/Jan/06
To Jone: I'm 180 cm (5'11"), my dad's 164 cm (5'4
Rodney said on 11/Jan/06
Arnold doesn't need enhanced footwear. He is already 6-2, so why would he need them?
dmeyer said on 11/Jan/06
i think arnie was 187 188 cm at his peak and 6'1" nowadays i just saw a pic of arnie and sly who is 5'9 or 10 and arnie looked 3 to 4 inches taller so arnie is of corse no shorter than 6' or 6'1" also he looks 6 inches taller than glenn so he is 6'1" aleast also if he pretends to be 6'2" it means he has to be near it
Jason said on 11/Jan/06
Standard wrestling boots don't add 2 1/2'' to your height. Knowing Arnold, he probably demanded that no wrestlers he's in the ring with wore big boots or lifts (and wore them himself).
elio said on 11/Jan/06
Bizarre how Arnold can be at least 2" taller than Steve Austin and yet Arnold is listed as 6'0" (with many people trying to get him downgraded further) and Austin is listed as 6'1.5".

So Austin was wearing a 1" shoe and Arnold was wearing a 4.5" shoe?

Better still, let's say Arnold is 5'10 like some people are trying to make him and then he's wearing shoes that had 6 and a half inches in height.

Or howabout Arnold is 5'10 and Austin was wearing a standard 2.5" wrestling boot. Arnold would need 8 inch shoes to become 2 inches taller than a 6'1.5" Austin in this case.

( PS - download the video to this off a p2p program and you'll see this difference in height is consistant all the way through - A DEFINATE MINIMUM OF 2 INCHES betwen Arnold and 6'1.5" listed Steve Austin)

Bear in mind, Austin's mugshot PROVED that he stood at 6'2.5" inches in UNKNOWN shoes ... he may be smaller. But a realistic minimum would be 5'11.5" (3" shoes)

[Editor Rob: yeah, this was 6 years ago...Austin's height has been slowly creeping down in 1/2 inch measures...with the recent comparisons he is starting to lose height faster than Clint Eastwood!

The mugshot - Depending on how close to the wall and the height of the camera the range could be 6ft - 6ft 2.5. Actually it's more deceptive than most of us probably think...]
Gramps said on 11/Jan/06
I have seen too many pics of Arnold looking short (<6') that I believe his "tall" photos result from enhanced footwear. Arnold has so much invested in his size, I think it would be a terrible blow to his ego and reputation if it came out that he was really 5'11". Think about it - - how can you have a 5'11" Governator, or worse yet, a 5'11" Terminator! (BTW, I do believe he was just a bit over 6'0" in the '70s, perhaps approaching 6'1" - - but no more!)
Danimal said on 11/Jan/06
316, Check out I can't get enough of that site...Some AMAZING and SHOCKING PICS of Hulk Hogan next to Hillbilly and you will see the severe height loss...

Back on track though, Stone Cold ain't no 6'1" my man. He's lucky if he's 6'0"..Arnold's about the same..He must have been wearing lifts..
316 said on 10/Jan/06
Danimal, how can u be so sure that Lou is shorter than 6'4, havent u seen his pics next to the 6'2 eric bana, he clearly had atleast 2.5" on him, plus gettin bak to ur other point about lou being shorter than Hogan, we cant determine that accurately jus by seeing those pics posted, coz in some of them even Lou looks slightly taller or equal in height to Hogan.
Now coming back to Arnold, chek out this pic of him standing next to 6'1 stone cold steve austin, do u think arnold is shorter than stone cold, i think not.
Jason said on 10/Jan/06
Not really. Glenn is a long way back. What's Glenn's estimate of Arnold's height?? Rob, did he give you one?

[Editor Rob: I don't think he did...]
Danimal said on 9/Jan/06
316, Lou can NO LONGER be 6'4"-6'4 1/2" guy that he once was. Please understand that Pumping Iron is 30 years old man. Hogan is taller than Lou today and Hogan is NO taller than 6'4" himself..
316 said on 9/Jan/06
Ill agree for the moment that Arnold is 6' . However, all u guys cant deny the fact that Lou Ferrigno is definately in that 6'4-6'4.5" range . In Pumping Iron, in the breakfast scene where both Lou and arnold shake hands, there is a minimum 2-2.5" difference between them. Also towards the end of the movie, when Arnold and Lou work out(both barefeet, there is definately nothing more than the above mentioned height difference between them. So i definately feel frm that evidence that Arnold was indeed 6'1.5 to 6'2" in his prime, possibly 6'0.5" now.
elio said on 5/Jan/06
Lou was only described as being 6'8 by Butler in the 2002 retrospective documentary on the making of Pumping Iron ... NOT in 1974!
Jason said on 5/Jan/06
So, Lou's shrunk 6 inches since then, Jone?
Jason said on 5/Jan/06
I never said they did measure him, Danimal...
elio said on 5/Jan/06

Yeah, Lou Ferrigno was described as 6'8" by George Butler, the director of Pumping Iron in the documentary on Pumping Iron, 'Raw Iron'. In the actual film he is listed as 6'5" though.

Everyone I know who's watched 'Raw Iron' spotted the 6'8" blunder.
Danimal said on 5/Jan/06
Jason, I have as hard a time believing that the source you got Hogan's peak height from, measured him either.
Jason said on 5/Jan/06
I don't think Guiness actually measured him. Didn't Guiness also say he had 22.5'' biceps? *wrings hand* :)
TheMan said on 4/Jan/06
I belive he is 6,1 maybe he never was 6,2 i was watching pumping iron and there was a guy who said lou furrigno was 6,8 lol. Anyone ever see that, one of the funniest things i ever saw?
elio said on 4/Jan/06

... YOU DO REALISE that if you cut the first two inches from a tape measure it would actually make you two inches TALLER.

There's no need to make up bogus stories to illustrate that measurements can be flawed.

I will say this though, I've measured myself on a number of height charts over the years, and i'd never noticed any greater than a +/- 0.5" difference in my height on these. But there's a new height chart stand at my local gym and it's 1 1/2 inches off. In fact, it's part of the reason why i've been so obsessed about height (like most people here are) for the past couple of months. I was 'downgraded' by this inch and a half, and so was my friend. Since then i've bought two tapemeasures and have repetively measured myself under strict conditions. Every time i measure myself I'm the original height I thought I was (1 1/2" taller than the one at the gym)... but for some stupid reason, I need to keep proving to myself that i've still got that extra 1 1/2". I've not mentioned it to the people running the gym, because I don't think they'll believe me unless I prove it to them. In which case they'll just think I'm a weirdo with a fascination with height (which, thanks to them... is now true).

Anyway, my point is that even expensive looking measuring equipment can be flawed.
Gotxo said on 4/Jan/06
Jone, that is so unbelivable...How do you think things are made in real life? The Empire State, microprocessors & such? It has no use to sell a tapemeasure that don't measures at all (maybe it tapes? :P) They probably used a Stadiometer, a rigid column of metal that has attached a small bar perpendicular to it that goes up and down trouhgh it axis, thus the person gets trapped between the base and this flat tool measuring it perfectly.
Gotxo said on 4/Jan/06
I agree with Danimal, i read once that he was already 180cm at his sixteen and 185cm & over 100 kg in his eighteens. With 19 he was the youngest finalist of MR.Universe in London (he almost defeated Chester Yorton). It's unlikely that if he had any further growth potential he could deployed it under such circumstances. (sorry i ignore the sorce, the same as Danimal i suposse)
Danimal said on 4/Jan/06
Elio, as I have previously mentioned on here, Arnold was listed as being 6'1" in the early eighties, when he was featured in the Guiness Book of World's Records. At that point, he was in his early to mid 30's and it is rare that the GBOWR would make a mistake with a measurement. They are quite meticulous.
elio said on 4/Jan/06
KEG, I am happy now :) I'm definately more inclined to believe you. The thing is, if you say he was about 5'11. That would mean that in the above pic with Glenn, he would be only 3" taller than him.

I see no evidence of slouching, but Glenn is definately further back from Arnold, and that obviously makes a difference. Either way, Arnold can't be standing any less than 6" taller than Glenn (e.g top of Glenn's head comes a fraction below Arnold's eyes. You'll also notice that Arnold's head is tilted down towards the left too, so Arnold's eyeline is on level with his right eye. (note that tilting you head cannot make an eye appear higher... only lower)

I conclude that in my opinion:

Arnold was 6'1 1/2" in his prime (20s), and rounded up to 6'2.
Arnold was 6'1" by 1990 (possible spinal compression due to back exercise)
Arnold is 6'0" now (further 1" lost naturally due to age)

I also think that Arnold wears what could be considered 'evevator' shoes, but not lifts. I'd guesstimate the height increase he gets is about an inch more than a standard 1.25" shoe. Seeing that he is constantly on the move (view his governor website to see the amount of visits he does), I can't see him wearing the Herman Munster style 3+" shoes which are easy to notice, tricky to walk in, and uncomfortable (even if custom made).

However, like Jason, I am interested in hearing what Glenn has to say on this.
Jason said on 4/Jan/06
What's Glenn's take on Arnold's height??
UK Terminator fan said on 4/Jan/06
You may have a point Elio, picture one could maybe point out a slight error in my statement. However Ronny Cox is leaning against something in picture 2 and Arnold is standing up straight.

Goxto couldn't agree with you more there are certainly scenes in which Arnold does look 1-2 inches shorter.
Gotxo said on 4/Jan/06
Elio i must confirm you that in several scenes of Total Recall Arnold seems taller than Cox, but are the close shots. The most subject ones to "treatment". When the camera is not so close to actors (& we see more of their bodies) Arnold can look near 2" smaller than him.
Viper652 said on 4/Jan/06
It also looks like Glenn could be slouching as well.
Jason said on 3/Jan/06
lmao @ those who don't realize Glenn is further back than Arnold. Give your heads a shake people!
KEG said on 3/Jan/06
OK elio, it was at the Arnold Classic in Columbus Ohio in 1993. I was there as a spectator. He was there as Arnold. I didn't say anything beyond "nice to meet you". I'm 6'2" and he was, in my best estimate, 5'11". Happy now?
elio said on 3/Jan/06
UK Terminator fan, you say that:

'As I said before I believe Arnold to have been 5ft 11.5 bare foot. And if u calcualte this 5ft 11.5 + 1 inch = 6ft 0.5 and 6ft 2 - 1.5 = 6ft 0.5. '

If Ronny Cox is 6'2" ... he'd be standing at just over 6'3" with normal shoes (he wore shoes in the movie).

if Arnold IS 5'11 1/2", he would need to be wearing shoes that give about 2 1/2" extra height.

I seem to remember Cox only being about an inch taller ( in the part where they stand next to each other on the video recording at the end of the movie) , but can't find any shots of this. I've posted links to the only ones I can find:
Gotxo said on 3/Jan/06
Lol, thnx to god for existing guys as Mikex, is he the only to note that?
Just apply common sense, isn't it easier to explain miraculous shrinkages due to the fact that stars boost their height obligued by their contracts or egos?
Leave the stories of shrinking guys to Richard Matheson. :P
Mikex said on 3/Jan/06
There seem to be lots of posts about guys shrinking with age. Men tend not to lose much height until their 60s/70s and even then it generally won't be much more than an inch though some men apparently lose 2 inches. The idea of a guy going from 6'2'' in his 30s to 6' in his 50s is wrong. If any height is lost in that period it's probably no more than a cm.
Viper652 said on 3/Jan/06
Arnold is between 5-10-5-11 barefoot There are just to many sightings of him about 6-1 people towering over him. You dont get that with guys like Hugh Jackman, Eric Bana, real tall guys.
Cobra said on 3/Jan/06
With The Rock:
Zach said on 3/Jan/06
Arnie looks a solid 6'2 there with Glenn
elio said on 3/Jan/06
KEG, don't take this the wrong way, but the old 'I randomly met arnold years ago, shook his hand and was looking down to him' stories such as your version don't seem to have any substance to them.

If you want anyone to believe you, you should explain WHERE you met him, why you were there, why he was there, what you said, what he said, etc.

Otherwise you just end up looking like one of the many 'liars' on these boards, even if you are telling the truth.
Anonymous said on 3/Jan/06
arni looks 6'4" near glenn
UK Terminator fan said on 3/Jan/06
Arnold has never looked short - i've never known someone to be 5ft 11/6ft to be short. However someone standing at 6ft 2/6ft 3 looks very tall.

And from all the pictures and from seeing him on TV unless he was wearing big heeled boots he didn't appear as 'very' tall. The Terminator films and Last Action Hero he was wearing big heels and most probably lifts giving the impression of being 6ft 2/ 6ft 3.

However as Goxto says he looked shorter than 6ft 2 Ronny Cox - i believe there was a clear 1.5 inch difference - his footwear in the film were regulation 1 inch heel boots.

As I said before I believe Arnold to have been 5ft 11.5 bare foot. And if u calcualte this 5ft 11.5 + 1 inch = 6ft 0.5 and 6ft 2 - 1.5 = 6ft 0.5.

But I don't consdier 180 - 185cm to be in anyways short.
KEG said on 3/Jan/06
I was close enough to Arnold to shake hands with him about a dozen years ago. I am on the upper side of 6'2" was comfortably taller than him. My best estimate of his height is 5'11".
Joseph said on 2/Jan/06
you are all wrong... Arnie is 188cm (6ft2") when he stands straight. og course he looks shorter now.. he`s older.. but everybody has the same height their hole lifes from they are aldults, when they stand straight of course.
Marc said on 2/Jan/06
He is certainly 6'0" ( could be 6'1") because at the Wax Museum i was only about 2 inches shorter (I'm 5'10") since my eye level was was just below his and the top of my head was at close to his hairline.
Gotxo said on 2/Jan/06
Cobra Kristanna Loker is 5'11" a regular women heel gives 2" not 3". Plus he looks smaller than Ronny Cox (6'2") in Total Recall, watch again that film.
Anonymous said on 2/Jan/06
I think this pic isn't good to prove nothing.the distance is really enormous,moreover Arnie could have lifts.In all cases my trainer who is 180 cm for sure said to me he saw Arnie in a planet hollywood some years ago and he appeared huge,190 cm.I think in his prime he was 185 and now something under 183
elio said on 2/Jan/06
Glenn doesn't seem to be slouching to me, far from it.

And although he is behind them both, it's not by much as he has his arms around their backs. There can't be any less than 6" between them. More likely 7"-8" as I have already said.
CoolJ said on 2/Jan/06
People.. People... Glenn is about a foot back in the picture.

Nevertheless, Arnold does look huge in comparison to Glenn. A good 6'1...

I wonder if Glenn is actually 173cm on the button or was he not done growing in that pic (not sure how old he is there). Should also consider footwear..
Anonymous said on 2/Jan/06
Glen is further back in that pic.

Cobra: you could just as fairly question Arnold's footware. ;)
elio said on 2/Jan/06
Well it certainly looks like Arnold was definately above 5'10" in 1990 doesn't it?

I'd guess Glenn comes up roughly to the bottom of Arnold's nose in that pic. If Glenn's wearing a ~1" shoe then Arnold is standing at about 5'9" + 7-8" (Bottom of Arnold's nose to the top of his head). Which means with 'shoes' he was around the 6'3.5" mark. I think it's highly unlikely Arnold was wearing a shoe that gave him anymore than 3 inches of extra height.

So I put arnold around the 6'1.5" mark from this photo (in 1990 at least).

For Arnold to have been 5'10" he'd need to have been wearing shoes that give him 5-6" of extra height! Ridiculous!

Cobra said on 2/Jan/06
Here Arnold looks definately taller than Kristanna:
Cobra said on 2/Jan/06
Arnold really look huge in this pic.
@ Jason, Kristanna is wearing the shoes all women wear. ;)
funkmonk said on 2/Jan/06
that Glenn image is interesting. I really though Arnold was 5'11" now and 6' prime. He 'seems' bigger here. BUT Glen is standing begin Arnold so would look shorter than normal and is he slouching?
Gotxo said on 2/Jan/06
He has more than 4" on Glenn i must admit. Perhaps he really is closer to 6'1". But again he has acted in films with 6'2" stars and was smaller, was he wearing odd footwear there?
Jason said on 2/Jan/06

Arnold looking the exact same height as 5'11'' Kristanna Loken.
Gramps said on 31/Dec/05
Jone: when Editor Rob pokes fun at your statements, you should know it's time for a change in medication!
elio said on 31/Dec/05
I have mentioned this here before, but Vince Basile, a professional bodybuilder from the 60s/70s wrote the following in a bodybuilding forum:

"I measured Arnold's height in Feb 1969 at Mit's Gym in Honolulu. Several of the guys there claimed certain heights and everyone was at least 1/2 inch shorter on Mit's scale. Arnold claimed 6' 2" but measured 6' 1 1/2" that evening. I did say that he might be 6-2 in the morning. Why? Well there was a famous story of a guy who wanted to get into the police force in New York but failed to meet the minimum height then of 5'8". He succeeded in passing by getting his mates to bring him in on an ironing board in the morning before he stood up! So we do shrink during the day.

In October 1968 I measured his upper arms at 21 1/2" and he was about 62 inches around the shoulders. He wouldn't let me measure calves that day telling me to come back in 2 weeks. I returned to Canada so never got to measure his calves. In those days Arnold was pretty straight forward and posed for photos, etc. I took an image of Arnold that was published in Muscle Training Illustrated. That day that he posed I ran out of film and took only a couple of images. "

Later he wrote:

"I measured Arnold's arm in the change room upstairs at Golds on Pacific Avenue. He finished a workout minutes before but I can't remember what he was training. If he was pumped from arms then they would have gone down a bit by the time I measured them. I mean, you don't go up to a guy that big in the gym with a tape measure. He said he weighed about 245 then. There is that photo in MTI published some time in 69 where he is standing outside Golds with Chuck Fautz and Chip Wilson.

About Arnold's height. The only thing left to check is if that scale in Mit's was accurate. I have no idea but the other fellows who we measured for height all lost half an inch. My opinion is that the height guage was accurate. The guys who claimed they were taller than they were, were all shorter than me. I could care less if tall guys like Arnold are half an inch shorter but for some reason guys who claim they are 5-8 but aren't rather bother me!

Then we have the silly business of Billy Knight and Chuck Fautz claiming they were shorter than they were so they could win a trophy in a shorter class! Ah, the follies of the Ironbrains. "
elio said on 31/Dec/05
OnCapeCod, you mention:

"For purely visual evidence rent the excellent movie "The Long Goodbye" and see a pre-celebrity Arnold dwarfed in height by Elliot Gould!!!Please give it a rest after this.Ciao."

"I guess Elliot Gould must be 6'8" or 6'9" because HE DWARFS ARNOLD (6'4"...your fantasy fact)IN "THE LONG GOODBYE"!!!!!I suppose Gould wore stilts or Arnold walked in trenches for his scene as an unknown.NICE!"

Well here's a link to a clip from that movie, where Gould and Arnold are stood next to each other towards the end.

Is it just me, or does the 6'3" Gould look roughly the same height as Schwarzengger? Perhaps an inch taller at maximum? I definately don't see any of this 'DWARFING' that you mention, OnCapeCod.
elio said on 31/Dec/05
UK Terminator fan, you claim that:

"In the film Pumping Iron Serge Nubret (6ft) was a finalist with Arnold and Lou in the Olympia that year, well in the encyclo there is pictures of Arnold and Serge on stage and Arnold looked a clear 0.5 - 1 inch shorter."

Well i've just checked all the way through the book. There are 8 shots where Arnold and Nubret are stood next to each other (1 is printed twice). Arnold is taller than Nubret in ALL of them. The only 2 photos where Nubret comes close is one where he is wearing shoes and Arnold isn't, and another (the one that's printed twice) where Arnold is hitting a most muscular pose and is slightly hunched over. Even on this, if you look closely Arnold is taller. In fact, the first time the photo is printed the top is cut off the photo, cutting off part of Arnold's head BUT NOT Nubret's.

I'm pretty sure the only other bodybuilder listed at 6'0" that Arnold is stood next to is Ken Waller... and guess what, Arnold's noticably taller than him too.

Also, with all the photos with Lou Ferrigno he looks a maximum of 3-4" inches shorter to me.
Viper652 said on 31/Dec/05
UK Terminator's post is by far the best on this page.
Height Tracker said on 31/Dec/05
Jone, your claims are bordering on completely ridiculous. I myself believe that Arnold was between 6'0" and 6'1" at his peak, and he has probably lost quite a bit of height, making him a solid 5'11" right now. The claims that he was 6'4" are insane, and your idea that he stood in a pot-hole on stage just doesn't make any sense at all.

[Editor Rob: no, Jone is quite right...everywhere Arnold goes he has a team of construction workers who walk in front of him digging a 3-inch ditch...this maintains the illusion that Arnie is only 6ft 1-2! As I've said before he also wears anti-lifts, so he may in fact be 6ft 6!]
Danimal said on 30/Dec/05
Jone, the only fallacy here is YOU. Arnold was listed at 6'2" years before Pumping Iron came out, or was filmed for that matter. Arnold was NEVER taller than Mike Katz (6'1"), Reg Park (6'1"-6'2) and only marginally taller than Dave Draper (6'0") and was clearly inches shorter than the then 6'4"-6'5" Lou Ferrigno.

UK Terminator fan said on 30/Dec/05
Ok everyone - Arnolds Bodybuilding encyclopedia is a must for those who believe he is or was taller than 6ft.

The book is packed with pictures of Arnold at his youthful bodybuilding prime. What a physique!!! Probably the best ever BUT............... when many of the pictures of him around supposed 6 footers casts a massive cloud over the claim that he is 6ft 2.

On a stage with 6ft 4 Lou Ferrigno in 1973 Arnold looked at least 5 inches shorter.

In the film Pumping Iron Serge Nubret (6ft) was a finalist with Arnold and Lou in the Olympia that year, well in the encyclo there is pictures of Arnold and Serge on stage and Arnold looked a clear 0.5 - 1 inch shorter.

get yourselfs a copy as the camera can't lie and most of the pics in the book are centred around Arnold on stage or in a gym in his barefeet.

I conclude Arnold was 5ft 11.5 barefeet in his prime and in footwear wouldv'e been 6ft 0.5 / 6ft 1.

the heels he wore in The Terminator films were 2.5 inches high - that would make him 6ft 2. And with 2 inch lifts 6ft 4. Maybe this will explain why Jone believes him to be 6ft 4. And hopefully those who say he is less than 6ft will agree with me 2.

And now I believe Arnold to be 5ft 10.5

Cobra said on 30/Dec/05
I think, the only problem is, that when you think about Arnold you look up to him in the mind, so you think you have also to look up in real life.
So when you hear A.S. you expect to look up, you expect somebody who is 6ft6+.
And that`s the problem.
And so is that even when people met him they can`t judge him very well because of that. that`s the reason why 5ft10 or such height judges came along.
I believe that Arnold was about 188 cm peak, 187 cm in his 80movies, 186 cm in his 90 movies and about 185 now.
OnCapeCod said on 27/Dec/05
I have flown into Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket 240-250 times during my life. They are islands! You see the way this works? I really couldn't give 2 craps about Arnold beside the fact that he is 5'11" and NOT freakishly large in overall stature. I guess Elliot Gould must be 6'8" or 6'9" because HE DWARFS ARNOLD (6'4"...your fantasy fact)IN "THE LONG GOODBYE"!!!!!I suppose Gould wore stilts or Arnold walked in trenches for his scene as an unknown.NICE!
Cobra said on 27/Dec/05
You miss understood me...
what I wanted to say that Arnold is about 6ft0,5 to 6ft1.
There are many inches to Ronnie, I know he is barefeet, but it`s too much that Arnold only 5ft11
And Triple H is at least 6ft2,5 more like 6ft3.
Look at this photos:
At both pictures not much smaller.

And on the Arnold/Coleman picture he doesn`t look much taller than Arnold.
Gramps said on 27/Dec/05
Cobra: that photo certainly doesn't do much for Triple H's stock, does it? Even with the favorable camera angle he doesn't show much height against the barefooted 5'9"-5'10" Ronnie Coleman, or the 5'11" Arnold!

[Editor Rob: he doesn't look big there...I missed

This pic of him and Angle.

I'm still looking at Triple H, he hasn't been forgotten...trying to find any fan pics is harder...]
Cobra said on 27/Dec/05
Here are Triple H, ronnie coleman and Arnie:
elio said on 27/Dec/05
OnCapeCod, so you've been in the same aircraft as him 4-5 times eh? Which was it, 4 or 5? Or was being in an aircraft with Arnold such a mundane experience that you don't know whether it was 4 or 5 times? Perhaps if you cannot remember things accurately then you can't judge height accurately.

Or maybe, just maybe, you're trying to 'Jone' us by bull$hitting.
OnCapeCod said on 26/Dec/05
Arnold is 5'11".The rest is lifts and attitude.Some of these fanboy fantasies are really hyper-detailed to an almost creepy level. I have been in the same small aircraft with him 4-5 times. For purely visual evidence rent the excellent movie "The Long Goodbye" and see a pre-celebrity Arnold dwarfed in height by Elliot Gould!!!Please give it a rest after this.Ciao.
Danimal said on 26/Dec/05
Jone, the evidence is in the pics and live footage of Arnold in his peak compared to other bodybuilders. I already provided that info below. Don't discount that. Why would Arnold oblige to allowing your cousin to measure him in the storage room???? That is ridiculous...Furthermore, Arnold would not have downplayed his height by 2 inches and the man NEVER looked 6'4", which would have put him at equal height with Lou and he NEVER WAS. This is a fanatsy of yours with NO proof, but eye-witness testimonies of you and all your family having met him. That in itself is just a bit far-fetched as well.
Gramps said on 26/Dec/05
Guys, if you believe Jone just happened to walk past Arnold on "Muscle Beach," and that his cousin actually measured Arnold in Austria, I have some future beach property in eastern California I'd like to sell you!
Danimal said on 25/Dec/05
Jone, what is this with your obsession with Arnold having been 6'4" in his peak??? The man was at least 2-4 inches shorter than Lou Ferrigno at the time. Arnold was the exact same height as the 6'1"-6'2" Reg Park, an inch or two taller than the 6'0" Dave Draper, either the exact same height as the 6'1" Mike Katz, an inch or two taller than the 6'0" Serge Nubret, and more recently, the same height as the later years 6'1"-6'2" Clint Eastwood. Arnold was NEVER 6'4". If he was, then he would have said so, to further build his image. He surely wouldn't have downplayed it my man.

I give him a strong 5'11 1/2"-6'0" today and NO less. He towered over the 5'9"-5'10" barefoot Kevin Levrone when he won the Arnold Classic twice in the nineties. The man was 6'1"-6'2" in his prime and the proof is in all of the pics and live barefooted live footage of his competitions and workouts...He was 4 to 5 inches taller than the then 5'9" Frank Zane and had a good 5 inches if not 6'0" over the 5'8" Mike Mentzer at the 1980 Mr. Olympia, as well as 4-5 inches on the 5'9"-5'10" Cuban Sergio Olivia.
Viper652 said on 25/Dec/05
Jone, Arnold never scraped 6-4. That is ridiculous.
nolifts81 said on 25/Dec/05
In 1993 he was at the italian gal
Thomas said on 25/Dec/05
Hey, OnCapeCod, I'm 6'2" (1/8" shy). I was measured a number of times in the Air Force, many times before and many times after. I'm a young man and haven't suffered any spinal injuries or anything else that would shrink my height. I'm 6'2", 6'2", 6'2". I KNOW when someone is my height, and having two friends who were on the same even ground as me and only a few feet away adds more credibilty to my statement. Arnold Schwarzenneger is at the BARE minimum 6'1" and maybe as much as a half inch taller. The only heperbole that's going on in this thread is your miserable estimation of this man's height. I've never met a 5'11" person whom I looked eye to eye with, and won't unless I meet someone with the flattest head you've ever done see.
Danimal said on 24/Dec/05
Jay Cutler has also been listed at 5'8 1/2" and as well as 5'9". Ronnie, used to get 5'10" and then when he became Mr. Olympia for the first time in 1998, he jumped to 5'11". I still go with the 5'10" listing and quite possibly not even that today (he's in his 40's)....To put into perspective, if he is in fact 5'9" we'll say (my exact height), and seeing he ways OVER 300 pounds in competition form, well, that is one Huge dude. His arms alone are 24 inches (unlike the fake measurement of Hulk Hogan's in the eighties). Hulk Hogan's were maybe 21-22 inches at best. Another Huge bodybuilder in perspective to his height, is Lee Priest, who is just under 5'4" and 285 pounds in the offseason, sporting 22 inch guns...These are very big men..What they lack in height for the most part, they make up for in weight and for the most part, that is why they became bodybuilders in the first place. They were all the typical shortish/pencil neck geeks who were picked on. There are exceptions of course.
cool1 said on 24/Dec/05
hi folks. I'm Austrian, same hometown as Arnie. I met him several times (late 90ies). He is around 5'11. I'm very very sure about that.
Gramps said on 24/Dec/05
CelebHeights: Bodybuilding competitions are exactly the venues where you are most likely to see Arnold wearing his "magic shoes," since the contestants are given height listings. Ronnie Coleman may be 5'11" in his cowboy boots but that's about it!
OnCapeCod said on 24/Dec/05
I don't know why my last post didn't show but Arnold is 5'11" FLAT. I have been on the Martha's Vinyard puddle jumper with him MANY. Anything besides that is BS. There is so much hyperbole on this site that it really shows exactly WHY height misrepresentation pays off BIG dividends in the celebrity world!
Viper652 said on 24/Dec/05
Weird sighting. Everyone else says Hugh Jackman is between 6-2 and 6-3.
Cobra said on 24/Dec/05
@ Thomas: also believe Arnold is 6ft1.
Coleman is 5ft11, Cutler 5ft9. Don`t know if this picture is real, because on most of the others coleman is looking taller.
And Cutler get one inch because of his hair, coleman not.
First: Arnold was definately strong.
He could bench press 498 pounds raw for one rep.
(bench pressing for a 5ft4 or 5ft5 (Franco) is much easier than for a 6ft2 (Arnold) athlete, because of the long/short arms)
His training weights with squats is 440 lbs. Not so much, compared to nowadays, but in that time you don`t have to need this gigantic quads.
And everybody who say its nocht much, try it!
On his best condition Arnold could lift maybe about 750 pounds; and that`s much.
In 1967 Arnold was German Master in powerlifting.

Arnold`s height, I saw the World Stunt Taurus Award for a few weeks, and Arnold was standing next to The Rock.
He was about 2 inches or so shorter.
CelebHeights Editor said on 24/Dec/05
Gramps, I'm not sure about Coleman being 5ft 9, but you can see Coleman and Arnie from another angle, which shows that the floor is most likely got a little slope on it...but Coleman is barefoot in anycase...

Coleman and Arnie. I could go to the extreme and say Arnie is only 2 inches taller than 5ft 9 barefoot Coleman in that pic. Arnie has 1.5 inch shoes + 1 inch riser. Therefore Arnie is actually 5ft 8.5.

But I won't make outrageous claims ;)

...I do think Arnie even in the 90's *looked* 6ft 1 easily, now I just think that in the last few years he's maybe lost a little bit...
BrianJ said on 23/Dec/05
I was in the capital building in Sacramento last year with a friend and Arnold walked right past us (with 6 or 7 other staff members/bodyguards) on his way to a news conference. I'm 6'2" and I swear on a big stack of Bibles that Arnold is no taller than 5'10". My friend and I were shocked. I thought he would be at least as tall as me. It's possible that he's become shorter over time due to steroids, etc. but he is certainly not either 6' or 6'2".
Gramps said on 23/Dec/05
Jone: Ronnie Coleman is 5'9" at best. Here he is posing down right next to the 5'9" Jay Cutler:
Mikex said on 23/Dec/05
The 6'2'' actor Richard E Grant wrote a memoir a few yrs ago in which mentioned seeing both Sly and Arnie in Hollywood and being surprised that they were both well short of 6'. I read somewhere that famous people are never the size you imagine them to be in real life. Guys you think are average turn out to be huge in the flesh, whereas the guys you think of as man mountains are often small. Maybe there's something in this.
cendrin rovini said on 23/Dec/05
I mean that really sucks, doesn't it? You train hard to gain muscles, to look like the incredible Hulk just to gain muscles becoz you want to attract women. But after all you're shrunk 10cm and you feel bad again losing attractivity. Arnold was big, now no longer, is that the reason why he's an angry poltician now?
Gotxo said on 22/Dec/05
Elio thnx for your comments, they are pretty interesting. We see that the man who lost more height was the one that used steroids (nasty thing that must trash hormonal balance). Yeah, it's a scientific fact that Halterofilia (sorry ignore the translation for that kind of weight-lifting) reduces the length of the tendons of the groin. It must afect to those of the backbone in some manner too.
Cobra said on 22/Dec/05
Arnold did a 710 Pound Deadlifts when he was 20
Danimal said on 22/Dec/05
Elio, Arnold WAS a VERY powerful man he did very heavy lifts with men like Dave Draper, Franco Columbo, Frank Zane and later Jusup Wilkoscz (2 of which were ex-powerlifters themselves). Arnold would squat in the neighborhood of 400-500 pounds and do VERY heavy deadlifts. Being an ex power-lifter myself, I have lost an inch an height as well. I had measured myself twice when I was 23-24 at the height of 5'10" and now, at 28 years old, having given up all weightlifting in general, I MAX out at 5'9" first thing in the morning. I am not sure if this is due to poor posture on my part. I slouch to often when sitting at my computer, or bad sleeping habits, or the heavy weightlifting itself. I know it can't be my age, because I am still young...
Gramps said on 22/Dec/05
Okay, JONE, we're ready to see those photos of Arnie at 6'3"+. Bring them on...
Jason said on 21/Dec/05
Actually, it's likely Arnold stopped growing early. Being a mesomorph, they're early developers and early developers tend to stop growing earlier. Sometimes as early as 12 - 13 let alone 15. With that in mind, I'd say it's more likely Arnold didn't grow after 15 than did.
cendrin rovini said on 21/Dec/05
Hans Meiser (cult-presenter in Germany) said he met Schwarzenegger and he was his height (188cm). Maybe he shrunk almost 10cm because of his age and training. PS: I'm from Germany, next to Austria. Not to kill someone for crimes is a part of our culture, I'm disappointed and it makes him small in my eyes...
Danimal said on 21/Dec/05
McFly, you still state FACTS my friend. Can you not see that your Facts are merely YOUR subjective opinions, which I might reiterate, are being based on absolutely NO evidence whatsoever...I have to side with Elio 100%.. Lou is not and was not 6'2" in his prime. Do all of us a favor and look at his stacked up to his former Olympia competitors. In 1975, Serge Nubret was 6'0" even and Lou towered over him. In fact, Lou had at least 3 inches on the 6'1"-6'2" Paul Dillet in the 1993 Mr. Olympia as well..Furthermore, your claim of Arnold being only 5'10" in his prime, would in fact reduce him to 5'8"-5'9" today by your logic, but again, you seem more fixated with magic 5'10" mark being his prime height, that I've noticed you've failed to mention was you belive his current height to be. Why don't you enlighten us all....Besides, the man was measured at 15 at a height of 5'11 1/2", so he was NO WAY less than that and I am quite certain he grew after that. 15 is by no means an age where young men stop growing..
Gramps said on 21/Dec/05
I think McFly and Jone are really the same guy, just playing all of us from both ends! Our reactions to their (his) ridiculous assertions must make for great laughs.
Jason said on 20/Dec/05
It's funny that Arnold is listed here as 6'0'' with those quotes at the top of the page underneath. Same with Stallone's page ... lol.
elio said on 20/Dec/05
McFly, your repetitive claim that Arnold is 5'10" is almost as crazy as the stuff Jone is coming out with. Whereas he is biased in favour of Arnold as he is a fan, you are biased against Arnold because you clearly hate the man.
Danimal said on 20/Dec/05
Jone, at LEAST 6'4"??? Where do you get this from? If Arnold was indeed 6'4" then wouldn't he have ever wanted to announce that height? Arnold only faced Lou ONCE in 1975. I believe that Lou was indeed 6'4" back then, if not 6'5", but Arnold? lol...NO WAY!!! 6'1"-6'2" MAX and today, 6'0" MAX....I am a HUGE fan of Arnold, but I won't make him seem literally larger than life as you are attempting to do!
Gramps said on 20/Dec/05
Jone, you're hilarious!
CelebHeights Editor said on 20/Dec/05
In that 'infamous' Qui interview back in 77 he did say: "I'm 6'2", and 240 pounds is the perfect weight for me" so he's been consistant.
Anonymous said on 19/Dec/05
After seeing a photo of my co-worker standing beside the campaigning Arnold (in a suit), I am now convinced Arnold is below 6 feet barefooted, by at least an inch.
Mr. R said on 19/Dec/05
Again, I will note that when he ran for governor of my state, they first released the 6-2 figure. But when they were challenged by keen height observers, his own press spokesman said he was 6 feet. He is certainly not above that!
elio said on 19/Dec/05
LOL. I must have missed the 'Let's measure Arnold on TV' show. Damn.
Viper652 said on 19/Dec/05
I call it as I see it as well, and Arnold looks 5-10.5 to me without his lifts. Shoot, even I think Bil Murray looks 6-2 to 6-3 sometimes.
Danimal said on 19/Dec/05
I see Arnold as NO less than 5'11 1/2" today. I've ALWAYS been a fan of him, since Pumping Iron came out in 1977 (the year I was born). I am a VERY good judge of height, as well as weight and perhaps he was never a solid 6'2" (probably closer to 6'1"), but today, he is hovering around the 6'0 mark and proof of that is him standing next to tall men, ie: Lou Ferrigno, Reg Park, Dave Draper, David Letterman, etc.)...
Cobra said on 19/Dec/05
A legit 6ft4 with the shoes he had in T1 can be right.
his barefeet height nowadays I think is about 184/185.
I really can`t believe this 5ft10 storys.
Jason said on 19/Dec/05
I just call it as I see it, Danimal. The sad fact is the vast majority of celebrity's heights are exaggerations/lies. The only listings here I posted agreeing with lately I can recall are Hugh Jackman & Bill Murray.
Danimal said on 18/Dec/05
McFly, read back what you wrote and tell me how much sense this makes: "Arnold was only 5'10 at his peak. I saw him during his campaign for Governor in 2003 --- you did not." Not to prove you wrong, but you mention that Arnold was 5'10" at his peak and in the same sentence you mention how you saw him in 2003? My friend, 2003 shows a 55-56 year old man and not a 22-28 year old Arnold at his peak and HOW do you know I did NOT see him as you claim you did? All we have to go by are your opinions McFly, for you offer no real evidence, YET, you claim your subjective opinions are FACTS, of which they are NOT.

BTW, on a side note, Jason, it appears that you like to prove points as to how SHORT most people are. You rarely if ever give the benefit of the doubt. That was just an obsevration my man.
Gramps said on 18/Dec/05
Jone: I love the way you just inject flat-out nonsense into the conversation! You're a riot!

McFly: So you think Arnold was at his peak height when you saw him during his 2003 gubernatorial campaign? LOL (again!)

tgri: Sorry to say but these guys don't lie when they say the Governator is less than 6 feet these days. Sad but true!
Jason said on 18/Dec/05
If you believe that tgri, you'll believe anything.
Cobra said on 18/Dec/05
In 1974, one year before Pumping Irion, competition weight of Arnold was 240 pounds, that was his best shape, in 1980 he weighed about 229 pounds.
Offseason he had about 260 pounds and still good defined, you can see this in "Hercules in New York".
In the first Conan movie Arnold was about 225 pounds, in the second about 235, in Conan the destroyer he is close to his shape in his BB-competition days.

Danimal said on 17/Dec/05
One more thing Elio. In the filming of Pumping Iron, which took place in 1975, while filming the pre-training schedule of several 1975 Olympia contestants, including Arnold S. and Lou Ferrigno, it is clearly stated that Arnold is 6'2" and 240 pounds and that Lou was 6'5" and 275 pounds. In fact, that was there off-season weight, for Arnold did trim down a bit for the competition (not sure how much), as did Lou, who was 268 pounds in November 1975 for his competition (his lightest competition by FAR). In 1993 Lou competed at 318 pounds and the following year at 298, listed at being just over 6'4".
Danimal said on 17/Dec/05
Gramps, Arnold averaged 220 pounds for Conan the Barbarian and reduced his weight to 212 pounds for one scene, where he is left for dead. For his filming of Terminator he had beefed up to 240 pounds according to him, in the December 1984 issue of Muscle and Fitness. In the movie Twins, Danny Devito made a point to state that his brother (that being Arnold) is a 230 pounds virgin...In the early nineties, he reduced that bodyweight to 210-215 pounds...

Another point that Elio made was when he mentioned the former 3 time Mr. Olympia who stood 5'9" (my exact height) and weighed 185-190 pounds for the 1980 competion. Well, if that was the case, Arnold had a good 4-5 inches on Frank and back then there was NO lifts. Anold either worked out barefoot, or with ballet slippers..No excpetions. Yes, the 1980 Mr. Olympia was indeed quite controversial, seeing that Mike Mentzer should have won it that year and because he didn't, he chose to retire that same year from professional bodybuilding competitions. Two other great competitors were Casey Viator and Tom Platz...

In order for Anrold to be able to have a lean 235 pounds of muscle in competion, he had to gain weight in the offseason and he did. He was 250-260 pounds for many years in his early competion days and in later ones, he was between 240-250 pounds and for most of his films in the eighties before and including 1986 he was 240 pounds..Gramps, Arnold was 212-220 pounds in 1981 and he was very lean and muscular. In 1984 at 240 pounds, he was much more massive, with less definition. Arnold weighed 250 pounds at his first Mr. Olympia in 1969, but people like Frank Zane and Sergio Olivia were far more cut and defined, so Arnold reduced his weight to 230 pounds for the 1970 competition and won it that year. The following year he found his groove at 235 pounds, but remember, this was his competion weight and NOT his offseason weight. He was a VERY large man back then, well, at least his upper torso was.
Zach said on 17/Dec/05
Regarding the weight issue, Arnold says in his encyclopedia that the heaviest he's been is 240Ib and that off season he had a tendency to slim down rather than gain weight since he was an ecto-mesomorph.
Jason said on 17/Dec/05
Depends how tall he really was. I'm a Conan and Arnold fan and have been watching the 2 Conan movies since I was a kid. Being a large man myself, I can see Arnold only having weighed 220 in Conan the Barbarian. Though I reckon he was no more than a solid 5'11''. I remember reading the producers wanted him to have a build in the movie that looked like it came from heavy labour (not weight lifting) and not a ''super hero'' physique.

Thanks for that interesting snippet, elio.
Gramps said on 17/Dec/05
McFly, are you still here? Arnie only 212 pounds in Conan? That would be possible if he was about 5'6". Even at a height back then of around 6 feet, Arnold would have weighed at least 240 to achieve that massiveness.
Gramps said on 17/Dec/05
Jone, you made a little mistake in your research on lifts: "Magnum" lifts are to raise boats, not feet. Nice try, though.
elio said on 17/Dec/05
Danimal. I actually meant to type 1974, not 1973 :) . You are right he was bigger in 1974... around 240lbs. However since then (including the 1975 olympia) he was been lighter.

Arnold dropped from 235lbs to 220lbs when he learned that Serge Nubret would be competing in the 1975 olympia and realised he posed a bigger threat than Lou Ferrigno. He wanted to make sure Nubret's definition and seperation didn't overshadow his own.

Also he competed in the 1980 olympia (not the 1990 as you have mistyped) under a similar lighter weight. This was probably due to the fact that he only decided to compete several weeks before the contest and also that at the time the judges had begun to award more marks for aesthetics with less emphasis on mass (180lbs 5'9" Frank Zane had won the 3 previous olympias). Most people estimate Arnold was around the 215lbs mark for the 1980 olympia.

The film studio wanted to shoot some footage of Arnold as King Conan, fully bearded and sitting on his throne surrounded by beautiful women in the fall of 1980. They were going to use that footage for a trailer that was going to run before some of the big Christmas movies later that year. Arnold was told to get in shape quick because he had to be big for the footage of him as King Conan. He started training seriously in the summer of '80 and everyone was telling him he should compete in the Olympia that year since he wasn't promoting it for the first time since he retired in 1975. I think as the Olympia got closer and he got in better shape, he thought that coming out of retirement and winning another Olympia title would provide great publicity for the new movie. Unfortunately, it didn't quite work out that way. His win was very controversial and CBS didn't even broadcast the footage they filmed at the show because of the controversy. Arnold started principal shooting on the movie in Spain on January 7th, 1981 and finished in May of the same year. The movie wasn't released until May 14, 1982. Arnold's weight was roughly the same for conan as it was for the '80 olympia. Perhaps as heavy as 220lbs, but he definately was not 240-250lbs beforehand as you have stated. You can't (effectively) go from 215lbs up to 250lbs then back down to 220lbs in 3 months.

In a lot of his movies since 1985 INCLUDING Twins, Red heat, and Predator he was actually only 210lbs. He was a bit heavier in Commando, Terminator and Conan the Destroyer.

You are correct that he is much lighter today, but i think 180lbs seems just a bit too light. Probably closer to 200lbs? I saw a picture of him with Jackie Chan recently and he was definately looking lighter.
Jason said on 16/Dec/05
Danimal, what did Arnold weigh in Conan the Barbarian? I heard 228 somewhere, but 220 sounds more like it.
Danimal said on 16/Dec/05
Elio, you are very much wrong about Arnold not having weighed over 230 pounds since 1973. Funny, but he won both the 1974 and 1975 Mr. Olympia at 235 pounds, as well as the 1990 Mr. Olympia at that weight. In 1981 while filming Conan the Barbarian, he reduced his weight from 240-250 pounds to 212-220...He later gained back that weight for Terminator, whereby he weighed 240 pounds..In 1988, he weighed 230 pounds for Twins and maintained that weight until the early 1990's, until True Lies, where he reduced his weight to 210-215 pounds...I don't believe he is even close to that weight today. I have read that he is somewhere around 180 pounds today...This is a man who at his peak was said to have ballooned up to 280 one offseason...When he first came to the US he was an imposing 250 pound man standing 6'1"-6'2", but is probably 5'11 1/2"-6'0" today...
Jason said on 16/Dec/05
Elio, steroids can indeed affect bone integrity which would lead to some shrinking. Not necessarily due to the muscle gained via their use itself (though it sure wouldn't help).
Jason said on 16/Dec/05
I agree with what you say Codex, but it depends on the person, too. My Grandfather was 6'1 1/2'' in his prime and he's still a hair over 6'1'' today at 73 years old despite having been overweight for the last 30 years. He's lost a little weight this year but he always weighed around 225lbs.
elio said on 15/Dec/05
He probably has shrunk. However there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that 'steroid use' causes or accelerates 'shrinking'.

Why would muscle cause shrinking anyway? It doesn't 'hang' from the spine. If anything it would reduce spine compression. Also, Arnold hasn't been over 230lbs since 1973. Even then, is 230lbs that heavy that it could compress the bones in your legs?

I can't help but feel that the assumption that muscle makes people shrink stems from jealousy
Gramps said on 14/Dec/05
Based on bodybuilding photos from 35 years ago, I believe Arnold was exactly the same height as Elvis - - 6'0.5". But at 5'11" today, I suspect Arnie is a tad taller than Elvis is!
Height Tracker said on 14/Dec/05
I agree with Codex. And anybody who says that Arnie was max 5'10" in his prime is really dilusional.
Codex said on 14/Dec/05
Points to bear in mind about him..
1) Arnie is not a young man anymore, is anyone going to seriously oppose this fact? The man has clearly lost a little height.
2) With all the body building hes done in his life(not neglecting the possiblity of steroid use), we can certainly say this extra muscle and weight has taken its toll on his frame.
3) He has obviously worn lifts in a lot of his films, that may have given the impression he was in the 6ft3/6ft4 range.
I find it plausible that he was 6 ft 2 in his prime. With an actor like Arnie, height would be a big thing, with his image as a tough guy type its doubtlful he could have pulled the wool over peoples eyes and claimed he was much taller than he was(at least in his prime).
Nowadys id put him in the 5ft11 range, 6 ft not out of the question though.
Gramps said on 13/Dec/05
Great picture, Bakane! Here's another, just showing how enigmatic Arnold is, height-wise, anyway:
Here he is with the legit 6'6" Ralf Moeller and the fading Clint Eastwood.
Gotxo said on 13/Dec/05
Elio, i read once a similar or the same article, but translated to metrics,it gave 183cm for the age of 15 and 185 at sixteen. The conversion, however can be biased by the well-know issues on conversion (seeking the cultural references). I think both those figures where rounded up.
Bakane said on 13/Dec/05
If G.W. Bush is 5'11". Arnie is the same height.
Look at this picture:
elio said on 13/Dec/05
the magazine 'Iron Man', Volume 26 No. 5, July 1967 and, on page 22, had Albert Busek's introductory article on Arnold that was reprinted courtesy of 'Man's World'. In it, Herr Busek gives Arnold's measurements as taken by Kurt Marnul when he started training at the age of 15

"Bodyweight 154; Height 5'11 1/2"; Upper arm 13; Chest 41 1/3; Waist 27 1/2; Thigh 21; Calf 14 3/4."

In Arnold's autobiography he states his height at 15 as 6 feet. This could just be a minor round-up from 5'11 1/2 which probably doesn't constitute as 'lieing about his height'.

Either way i think it's pretty clear he was around 6 foot at 15. It seems perfectly feasible that he gained another two inches over the following 3 years.

Jone's claims of 6'2 at 14 and 6'4 now are ridiculous and completely without evidence.
Codex said on 13/Dec/05
An interesting picture id say, make of it what you will.
Granted Arnie is in the foreground , but despite the angle he looks almost as tall as Clint Eastwood in this picture.
Jason said on 11/Dec/05
I only wish I could go on down to the TAB and put my life savings on that thing about Arnold not being true (staged, rumour, etc.).
Gotxo said on 6/Dec/05
Gramps: Lou looks tall, dunno if 6'3,or a little over.
But Arnie is possing, very conscious of his imga, he's closer to the camera,and we
know he likes to wear boots. No need of lifts at all to appear like that (if you're 6' or similar). 5'10 is stupid, but about six feet makes sense to me.
Gramps said on 6/Dec/05
So here's Arnold next to Lou Ferrigno, and Lou next to the 6'2.5" Eric Bana:
It's obvious that Big Lou is still around 6'3" and McFly says Arnold is 5" shorter? Yeah, right! Oh, I forgot, Arnold is wearing his 4" lifts! Ha-ha!
Jason said on 5/Dec/05
If he was really 6'2'' (or even over 6'0'' for that matter) we wouldn't have had all these droves of people saying he's 5'10'' and 5'11'' since the 70s.

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