In this video I talk about Perceived Height vs your Measured height, and how various factors can come into play in determining how tall you look to other people. I also mention a few areas that you can work on to improve your height in public.
Everybody has a barefoot measured height. No matter what anyone says or thinks about your own height, you know yourself exactly how tall you measure and nobody can take that away from you.
There's another type of height, one that I call Perceived Height. That is, the height other people around you, in public, see you as.
As grown adults, we can't really alter our barefoot measured height much - unfortunately the only option is leg-lengthening surgery - but we can, to a certain extent, change or influence our perceived height.
Factors Effecting Perceived Height
Your Body Frame. Whether it is narrow and thin, or a wider frame.
Your Leg Length. Whether it is short or long. Longer length adds to an illusion of greater height.
Your Physique. The amount of muscle you have, especially in upper body and around shoulder area.
Your Head Size. The longer your head, the more shorter you can look to people. In photos, if two people are of similar height, but one has a longer head, invariably that person is thought/seen of as being smaller. It ties in a bit to the Muller Lyer Illusion and how the brain interprets visual clues (like chin/shoulder/eyes) and makes a judgement that is different than reality (the actual top of the head).
Your Hand Size.
Your eye-level. This is probably the most important aspect effecting perceived height. When you think about height, most people are judging other heights based on their own eye-level. On average a man has a 4.5 inch eye-level, with ladies slightly smaller. Imagine the scenario of 2 people the exact same measured height, but one person has a head size that is small and an eye-level closer to 4 inches. The other person has could have an eye-level closer to 5 inches. The person with the higher eye-level might view the person with the lower eye-level as nearly an inch smaller, whereas the person with the lower eye-level may see the person with higher eye-level as nearly an inch taller, even though they are both the same physical height.
How to Look Taller - Influencing Your Perceived Height
Footwear is an important part of that. If you wear thin sneakers or shoes, like half inch styles, you are typically lowering your perceived height, because your footwear is less than the typical average that people wear (close to an inch).
This is why lifts and elevator shoes (and high heels) were invented. They are designed as a means of influencing and raising your perceived height in public. A 2.5 inch elevator shoe might be giving you 1.75 inches above the average type of shoe, which is quite significant in altering your own height in public. In this photo below, I am wearing 2.3 inch elevator shoes and because I'm a little taller than Jenny I am a comfortable 2.5 inches taller than her.
5ft 8 Rob and 5ft 8 Jenny
Of course the percentage of people who wear lifts or elevator shoes is quite small. As an alternative, many men choose to wear boots (timberland or caterpillar) or thick running shoes (like Nike Shox) or Cowboy Boots (giving 1.5-2 inches).
The kind of clothing you wear can also have an effect. The smarter you dress, the greater the influence you might leave with people.
Also, how you groom yourself can be important. Being well presented, having a nice shaped or even voluminous hairstyle can all add to the illusion of height.
Measured Height vs Standing Height - Improving Posture
Everybody has a measured height, but we also have a standing height. The kind of height you normally stand at. That is one are we can work on to improve our perceived height. On average, people might stand a half inch or even 3/4 inch shorter than what they measure. If you begin or take up some basic stretching routine or hanging routine, which helps your muscles in your core and back, you may be able to hold yourself taller and have a standing height that is much closer (and feel natural) to your measured height.
There are various celebrities who have worked on their posture and look to have a standing height that is very near their measured height. People like Tom Cruise, Sly Stallone, Vin Diesel and Henry Cavill spring to mind. This certainly can influence how tall they look in public to their fans. Here I am demonstrating tall pristine posture beside Jenny who is at a normal type of standing height:
5ft 8 Rob and 5ft 8 Jenny
Subconscious and Conscious Factors that Influence Height
Your own personality. If you are a confident individual, well-spoken, friendly, positive, these all help leaving a lasting impression with others. In their mind they will think of you as taller. The reverse can be true; if you are more downbeat, negative, have a chip on your shoulder, are a bit timid or mumble a lot, these kind of personality traits may well be leaving am impression with people of you being a smaller individual.
The pitch of your voice can also influence how others think of you. Typically, the taller you are, the lower your pitch. So if you have a higher-pitched voice, you may be leaving a shorter impression. Can you work on your voice? Yes, with practice you may be able to change it slightly and testosterone levels could effect it.
Your circle of friends. You could be average height, but your group is of friends is taller, so people in your group think of you as the short guy. Other people seeing you in this group may also remember you as the short guy, even though you are 5ft 9 or 10.
In films this can be important as many stars want to be seen taller, so casting directors may hire shorter or average individuals to make it appear the star is taller.
Summary of Perceived Height
Those are some of the factors to consider when we talk about perceived height.
Unfortunately we can't really change our barefeet height much. But we do have the scope to alter or influence our perceived height in public. Whether it's your clothing, footwear, posture, personality or group you surround yourself, you may not physically be able to grow, but there is room for growth in height perception.
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Lisa said on 7/Sep/17 Is it normal for a female to have a 5-5.5 inch eye level? I'm 5'7 but my eye level is under 5'2. I have a high forehead and head shape that is sloping (much higher in back). Not sure if race has got something to do with it as I'm East Asian and noticed that we have disproportionately large heads (mine is 10 inches). I always get mistaken for being shorter by people slightly shorter than me (like 5'4) who think they are the same height as me
[Editor Rob: 5.5 would be in the 99.9th percentile, you'd expect a very tall person to have such an eyelevel, but at 5ft 7 with an eyelevel quite low, you would feel 1-1.5 inches shorter than you measure!]
vmkkgfbb said on 5/Sep/17 My eye level is 5ft8 but i am 6ft1 is it real rob
[Editor Rob: 5 inch is a bigger eyelevel, the average is more 4.5-6 range.
You might find some men at 6ft 1 with high eyelevels, like 5ft 8.75...if you talked to them you'd feel they were taller, but actually both of you would be the same height.]
Ferdinand said on 2/Sep/17 Hi Rob, just wondering how much of a difference do you think there would be between two guys if the shorter guy's head came up to the tip of the taller guy's nose?
[Editor Rob: in 6-7 inch range]
Blake said on 27/Aug/17 Rob, what height would your head size be typically proportionate for? Obviously its over 5 ft 11
[Editor Rob: you can see number 14 in this chart, taken from a study of head sizes...Click Here. 9.5 is like 99th percentile based on that.
BlueHead said on 30/Jul/17 Hey Rob , a question ,I have big hands. Does that make me look shorter?
[Editor Rob: could depend on the situation, sometimes it might help give people an impression when sitting that you are bigger?]
Crypto139 said on 24/Jul/17 As a person with a deep voice, I've noticed when I say I am just under 5'8" on voice chats people are always in shock lol. So I guess your voice can make you seem taller :p
[Editor Rob: yes, voice is associated with stature by many, so having a low voice is an advantage in fooling others into thinking you are taller than you really are.]
toby said on 20/Jul/17 rob in that pic with jen you look fairly tall for a 174 guy deffo look like a 177cm man there.
Harry said on 3/Mar/17 Hi Rob, do long necks make you look taller or shorter?
[Editor Rob: Harry, I'd say they can add to an illusion of more height, but if very long then the shoulders will look lower and the overall body proportion might actually make the person seem shorter.]
Revisionist said on 20/Feb/17 Simone, without any reference point and without knowing how large your head is, I loosely guess well above average height. Slip on some slim-fit trousers, and you'll look even taller.
Kaneff 6'0.25" said on 17/Feb/17 @Peter175
I agree. In any given location the tallest guys are usually around 6'3" range. 6'4" is more uncommon and 6'5"+ is rare. It makes sense because 6'3.25"/191cm is 2 standard deviations above the average. Anything more than that is statistically rare. This quarter at my community college I've yet to see any legit 6'5+ guys on campus which maybe just goes to show how rare 6'5+ is.
Sometimes I browse r/tall on Reddit and I read stuff like 6'2/6'3 guys saying they don't feel tall, people who say 6'2 is barely considered tall or that 6'1 is average, and I saw a thread once called "Is 6'5" really that tall?" It makes me wonder if half the people on that subreddit really know their true barefoot height.
MaskDeMasque said on 17/Dec/16 @Simone
I'd say you look like a solid 5'9. 176, maybe 177cm. Am i right?
Peter175 said on 5/Dec/16 I legit rarely ever see men above 190cm except on the internet. I think the average is around 175-8. I would consider 183+ to be tall and below 170 to be considered short
JAK said on 27/Oct/16 My dad is six feet tall on the dot yet he has been guessed as high as 6'4", with the consensus being that he is over six feet. My dad always corrects people saying that he is six feet flat and some refuse to believe it. What's strange about it is that his posture is quite poor. I'm six feet as well myself but people tend to guess correctly with me, I've been called 6'1" before.
Simone said on 6/Oct/16 Rob please I'm using shoe lifts but I don't know if people can notice something strange.
I'm using longer paints as you suggested some months ago.
Can you give me your opinion please?
How tall would you guess me?
MB said on 29/Sep/16 Does having an athletic body (muscular) but not too muscular helps giving a taller impression than someone skinny-slim? or the opposite?
[Editor Rob: some people might view the muscle with a positive thought of tallness. A kind of mind association.]
oliver said on 9/Sep/16 I have noticed that I always seem to think people are taller than they are from a distance, even up to a meter away they can look like they are a good inch taller than me from my perspective but then I walk up to them and our eyes will be the same or they will be smaller. Same thing with points on a wall. If I mark a dot on the wall where my eyes are and walk away from it I for some reason perceive it as well above my eye level. Im 186cm before bed how many people rob would you expect to be taller than me on say an average day out of say 100 people?
[Editor Rob: it could be that your internal 'balance' just means sometimes gauging if something is taller/shorter than your eyelevel becomes more difficult, especially when it is within about an inch either way.]
NX said on 25/Aug/16 Hey rob I have a question for you
My legit height is 5'10' at worst 5'9.75, however I have a 30 inch inseam and my body frame is kind of wide insteae of long and slim, when I see my reflections I often have doubts about my measured height because to me I look 5'6. Is it possible to look 10cm shorter than you actually are ?
[Editor Rob: you simply could have a shorter look yes.]
Sam said on 10/Aug/16 Rob would a 9.5 inch head be typical for a 5'10-5'11 male?
[Editor Rob: for 6ft - 6ft 2 man it is more average.]
Dr 188 said on 9/Jun/16 I just love your site , you are doing such a great job Rob
[Editor Rob: it is always worth remembering celebheights is an entertainment site, I am glad some people enjoy visiting it!]
Dyno715 said on 8/Jun/16 Rob, if two people are the same height, under what circumstances can one look shorter to the other (assuming even footwear)?
[Editor Rob: just differences in stances, how much hair each person has, the physical areas like chin height, eye height - these might make some people think one is taller and the other shorter.]
Dr 188 said on 1/Jun/16 Hey Rob please please answer this,I am 188 cm north Indian 18 years old,I will be going to USA next year that is in 2017 , would i be considered tall there?
[Editor Rob: absolutely, you should feel comfortably tall]
James220 said on 28/Jun/15 Rob whats the best way to appear taller in pictures. I assume being closer to the camera and raising the head a little?
[Editor Rob: I mentioned a few things in a video I did called Sly photo tips Here.
There are visual things you can do like hairstyle, raising eyes, having good overall posture and a big chest...slim fitting clothes/suits. Going on one foot, holding the other person down while you are military etc.
Sometimes being nearer won't always make you taller. If the photographer is very tall, standing sometimes further away helps you look taller. But if you are 5ft 8 and the photographer is 5ft 10 and under, this helps the person nearer the camera a little.
But if the person was 6ft tall, you can still move forward a few inches and it won't actually make you taller, because the highest point of your head isn't at the very front, so when you move forward a few inches, the highest point of your head then becomes the same distance from the camera as the eyebrow area of the 6ft man...]
Opia said on 22/Jun/15 Aaaa.. ok rob thats why.. so you mean that reflection in mirror cannot be trusted somtimes? Except your face? Please rob I need your response to help me. Thanks
[Editor Rob: at times it might be unreliable, although generally it gives a rough idea. Some glass might reflect objects differently than other types of mirror/glass.]
Opia said on 21/Jun/15 Rob when a fluffy or muscular person stand next to me in a mirror why does he like he's an inch taller than me? Is it normal? Btw I am slim so..
[Editor Rob: maybe because your eyes are lower the reflection can sometimes make the other person appear slightly taller. I personally don't look in mirrors too much with others!]
CD said on 15/Jun/15 @Giga Sometimes I too find that perspective can be a bit odd. I thought a friend of mine was very similar height but one day someone pointed out he was solidly taller (I believe he is actually about an inch taller), I think sometimes people lower their eyelevel a bit and also have very slight less posture, so you can think they are closer in height. On the other hand though, another person is 1.5 inches shorter than me measured, and looks that when standing in the mirror, but sometimes she seems eye to eye with me (she actually has a smaller head and our eyes are only about 0.75 apart).
brent said on 15/Jun/15 Rob. Sorry if I did say anything. Is that the cause why I cant comment on other celeb page here? I am truly sorry rob.. and btw your site is amazing and helpful. God bless Rob.
brent said on 15/Jun/15 Rob this is me. IDK why I can't add comment on you Rob Paul page. But my big question is how many inches will it added to my height when I wear lifts with 1.3 inch and shoes with 1.3 inch .
[Editor Rob: 2-2.1 in total, the pivot point of the foot means you wouldn't get 2.6 inches.]
Giga said on 11/Jun/15 And ron one more important.. it appears everytime we walk I am behind their back.. will I appear shorter.. and now they believe they are more taller than me.. which is impossible because I'll tell you rob I am seeing just the same as their eye level.
Giga said on 11/Jun/15 Rob sorry I don't mean by standing the same distance.. I mean when we're walking into a road then seeing a glass mirror showing your full body. And it is like 18-20 feet away. And correct me rob of I am seeing the same eye level of a person means we have the same height right? Please reply again really appeciate to help me please rob
[Editor Rob: unfortunately I can't really see what you mean. Maybe the mirror has slight warp in it so one side looks taller? I've looked at me and others in queues when there is glass and sometimes I think I know what you mean - maybe just slight differences in position can make one person appear taller...]
Giga said on 6/Jun/15 Rob, this is important I notice when I'm walking with my friends and I looked into a glass mirror why is it like I am 2 inches shorter than them but in reality I think I am just about the same height as them helpppp please.
[Editor Rob: not sure, because looking in a mirror with Jenny who is roughly same height, it appears similar to what she looks.
Maybe someone else can offer an explanation? Are you sure you are standing the same distance from the mirror as your friend...]
Judd said on 22/May/15 Daf says on 12/Apr/15
Rob how tall do you think the guy to the right is if the guy to the left is 173cm, similar footwear Click Here
[Editor Rob: he could be in 183-4 zone]
rob, i've a question. in a condition similar to the photo's one, for sure there's a problem of the orizontal level of the camera.
you can notice it if you see the line of the mirror behind the two guys.
in those situation, you can estimate the height of people looking at the line of the mirror (behind they) and use it as the orizontal line? it can be a solutions?
[Editor Rob: usually if there is known vertical line near the middle of the picture it can be used to tell if there was a tilt. Unfortunately in some photos it is not obvious if a tilt would exist...and even a camera angle can create a fake looking tilt!]
Daf said on 12/Apr/15 Rob how tall do you think the guy to the right is if the guy to the left is 173cm, similar footwear
[Editor Rob: he could be in 183-4 zone]
CD said on 7/Jan/15 Rob, if you don't judge someones eyelevel and look at the top of their head, is it sometimes possible to think someone is the same height when they are actually 2 inches shorter? I mean someone who is 2 inches shorter is still about 2.5 inches above your eyelevel, if that makes sense.
[Editor Rob: sometimes you could be fooled a bit into thinking that yeah...if a 5ft 7 person is standing and I'm looking at the top of their head it definitely could feel they are a bit taller than they are. When I look at my fridge (174cm) I sometimes think 'Am I really only a fraction less than that'...same with the mark on the wall for my height.]
freddie said on 26/Oct/14 Hey rob I'm 20 and my sleep cycles since the past 3 years have been terrible partly due to chronic insomnia...I barely sleep for 5-6 hours a day sometimes even less and that to not at a stretch...also my sleep timings are terrible and I sleep notouriously late. I'm also into cycling and swimming. Hoewer I feel I have declined in height and appear much shorter now days.is it possible to decline in height due to lack of sleep??
[Editor Rob: I've not looked into that or know someone who I could find out, but I wouldn't really expect it to effect your height, apart from maybe your morning height never quite being reached.]
De said on 25/Aug/14 Rob,can you predict the couple's height diffrence please.The guy is listed as 5'9(176cm) and the girl 5'9(175cm).Don't you think the girl is shorter than that?
Click HereClick Here
[Editor Rob: from that it's hard to see them both the same height, you would think she was at least 2 inches smaller (she may be standing a bit looser) ]
Simone said on 14/Jul/14 Rob,please can you give me your estimate about the guy on the right?
Guy on left is 186cm
[Editor Rob: 177cm is possible]
J.Lee said on 3/Jun/14 Rob you what's weird? I have seen a girl that was taller than another girl. However, the shorter girl was taller than a girl who was taller than the taller girl. And this was all in the same day, so they all had their same heels on. It's hard to put together. From one angle, two girls can look the same height. Then another angle, one can look 1.5 inches taller.
[Editor Rob: some angles, different postures and positions can change things around when looking at heights.]
James said on 26/Mar/14 Is there a easy way with measuring between yours to the top of your head
lelman said on 29/Jan/14 When stood with somebody who's exactly the same height as you, from your perspective, would you feel they are shorter than you? I've had times where I've looked at somebody and deduced that i'm slightly taller, however when looking in a reflection we're basically the same height.
[Editor Rob: I think it can go both ways, sometimes the tilt of your own head can make you feel taller/shorter.
sometimes what's interesting is seeing someone approach you from a distance and thinking they are one height and the closer you get realising they are another height.]
bob said on 21/Jan/14 How tall is a UK bedroom door 1.on its own ,2. The whole door frame
Emily said on 20/Dec/13 PS: My face length (bottom of chin to hairline) is 7,5 inches too. Does that mean my head is near 9 inches long as well? How much deviation in head length could there be with many people all having a 7,5 inch long face? That kinda confuses me.
[Editor Rob: with a near 4cm/1.5 inch hairline then 9 inches it would be, but if it was 3cm a bit under 9]
Emily said on 20/Dec/13 @Rob, addressing your answer to cd: Why did you say "unless your hairline was really high"?
You already said he has an average head with around 9 inches, then why would the level of his hairline make a difference there? It wouldn't change his head length.
[Editor Rob: cd is talking about chin-hairline of 7.5 inches - I don't know how high/low his hairline is, hence his head could be 8.5 even 9.5 if his hairlevel was quite low]
James said on 6/Dec/13 What is the highest and lowest height you've been measured at?
[Editor Rob: not counting wonky walls? A proper measurement for me at low is typically just about 173cm, and absolute best nearly 175cm although last 2 times I checked a morning height it was right on 5ft 8.75 against the wall.]
Grottesca said on 25/Nov/13 LMAO @ 171.5 cm being "an absolute dwarf" :P
cd said on 15/Nov/13 Rob, my head is about 7.5 (perhaps a small tad less) inches long from chin to hairline and I'm 17 years old. However, I'm only 162cm. Is this bigger than average for my current height? I'm fairly certain I'm not done growing yet and probably have somewhat more growth left than the average 17 year old because I hit puberty very late (the head apparently reaches full size before everything else), but it still seems quite a lot out of proportion to me.
[Editor Rob: it's pretty average head, well unless your hairline was really high, but your head should be near 9 inches in total.]
nofearsorregrets said on 6/Nov/13 I`m 171.5cm tall(yeah I`m an absolute drawft I know) and I want a girl that doesn`t tower over me when she is in heels.what shold be her height then?
jb1987 said on 1/Oct/13 A friend of me is 6"2.75. And shes a girl...but height never had influence on her life^^
Pascal Souvage said on 20/Sep/13 How come if a guy's head is 23cm long that is considered average but if someone of the same height has a head that's 25 cm long he gets called Mellon head or his head is considered large.Does 1 inch make a big difference when comparing proportions?.I know two girls that are close in height but one of them has slightly longer legs 4-5cm at most.And the girl with the shorter legs always complains to me how long and beautiful her friends legs are.That looks like an obsessive compulsive disorder to me.
[Editor Rob: 1 inch can make a lot of difference with heads]
Basketball Freak said on 20/Sep/13 Rob how many centimeters from the hairline to the top of the head for an average 5'9.5 5'10 guy.This considering that his skull cap is normal.For instance Scumbagsteve has a face that's 8 inches long.How long is his whole head on average.That way we can get an accurate idea of the average head size for men and women.
Pesky Freak said on 8/Sep/13 Rob how long/big is the average head for guys. 5"9 to 5"11.I know it varies but you are an expert so you can give me a rough estimate.Also what is considered a long neck for both men and women.I'm curious.
[Editor Rob: I'm not sure about necks as that is harder to measure than a head...about 9 inch and a fraction is typical for 5ft 9-10 men.]
Scott five eleven said on 7/Sep/13 I also agree with multiplace below, a 5'9 guy with a good masculine build would look better than a 6'2 guy who is a complete weed. If your proportions are good then it's all good. I'm athletic built and some people say I'm skinny. At 5'11 and 166 lbs I'm fairly lean but my job requires fitness. Most people would class me as proportionate.
Scott five eleven said on 7/Sep/13 @isaiah- at 5'9 your no dwarf so you shouldn't worry. And I also am not concerned at being shorter than my dad haha ;-)
@Rusty - I agree totally. I was predicted to be 6'0 during early medicals etc. When I was 17 I joined the British infantry. Of course I had to complete a medical and I was then 176cms (strong 5'9) bearing in mind I'd been on my feet for a few hours travelling and carrying luggage. I've grown over an inch and a half recent height measurements show but these have been early morning. I stand 180cms or 5'11 but highly likely I'm more 5'10.75 throughout the day. Still I'm not tall or short. There are a load of guys I know shorter and a load taller. I'm quite happy being in the middle. I suppose I repeat myself here but the moral is you'll be what you'll be. Embrace it cos it's not physically changeble (or has science developed more?lol). What are peoples opinions on their partners height ? I for one tend to date girls who are around 5'2-5'3 (just through coincidence). It's nice to know that as no giant I'm still a good bit taller than my partner if she is in heels!
Ghostbuster said on 6/Sep/13 Rob,could you tell me if it's possible that I'm 2 inches taller then someone and our shoulders are the same height.How does this happen.My neck is 6 inches long and I think it's just a tiny bit above average.Also what is your opinion on head size.My face is 8 inches long from my chin to the top of forehead and I'm 5.9 and a half.How big is the head supposed to be so that it's proportional to the height.I would be gratefull if you give me your expert advice and opinion.
[Editor Rob: between 9-9.5 inches would be typical for a head on your body]
Scumbagsteve said on 27/Aug/13 Rob,I want to ask you what do you think is the average head length for a man.I'm a 5'9 and a half (176cm) and my face is 8 inches long when I measure it from my chin to my hairline.Yet I see guys who are like 6"2 and they have freakishly small heads.Is my head considered too big for my height and what is your opinion on the average head size by looking at people you know or celebrities.
[Editor Rob: it depends how high your hairline is, but 8 inches from hairline to chin is a little more than average for 176cm]
Rusty said on 24/Aug/13 @Scott 5/11
What you say is true. I am 6'3" and my dad is a weak 6' and my mom was a weak 5'9" in her prime i believe and at 56 she is now a very strong 5'8.5". Tall mothers tend to have tall sons and tall fathers have tall daughters. I have read this in multiple places, i wonder if Rob agrees with me on that one. I am much taller than my dad as states earlier, I passed him just after turning 16 if i remember right. I was average height for my age until I was 14 or 15 or so. I had a later puberty and once i entered high school at 5'9" i really started growing and was 6'2" by the time i started junior year. stayed at that height until after high school and then grew another inch in college.
When doctors did all the height tests on me when i was young such as doubling the height at age 2, measuring my legs, etc. it was predicted i'd be 6'1". However, i grew to 6'3", much to my parents' surprise. my younger brother is 18 and as tall as me already. my point is you are gonna be as tall as you're gonna be and that's that. its not over until its over
Yeah said on 20/Aug/13 I forgot to include the images
Here, the same Ernesto with 5-7 or 8 Zac Efron Click Here
Can't see him being over 5'10 or 11 at most (Tim Lopez is the guy next to Efron)
Tim, who's atleast an inch taller than Ernesto, with 6-3 or 4 Tom Brady, Tim's on the left from Ernesto, I can see at least 4 inch difference Click Here
Yeah said on 20/Aug/13 Click Here
Hey Rob! Please clarify this. Here Bill Rancic (Giuliana's husband) listed 6' 3'', you could see how accurate it is with his pictures with Guiliana and Donald Trump, with the other guy Ernesto, they seem around the same height, worse Ernesto could be is maybe 6'1'' or 2''.
Then, Tim Lopez, the guitarist from Plain White T's who's picture I saw with Tom Brady and Robert Plant (can provide if you need) shows that he's 5'10 or 11 at most, and is clearly taller than Ernesto by at least one or 2 inches. So there must be something seriosly wrong with one or more of the people I listed here! (some of whom you have estimates for)
Or possibly there's something really wrong with the picture, but I can't see how. Please let me know what you think, it's been really bugging me a lot, and sorry for the complication (I had to make too many comparisons...)
Firestarter said on 22/Jul/13 Rob,could you tell me if having a four finger forehead adds inches to your height.Is it possible that i'm 177 cm because my forehead is a little above average.Would i still be this height if i had a little smaller forehead.Also if you're a medium height guy with a long face could this mean that your body is shorter.My head looks pretty proportionate to my body but i can't figure out does the size of the head matter when judging height or it doesn't make much of a difference.
[Editor Rob: longer heads can fool people especially when compared against someone of similar size who has a small head.
the smaller your forehead the higher you can appear to others because your eyes would be higher - and since many people are looking at eyes as a gauge for height, the higher the better.]
issuetall said on 7/Jun/13 Viel Eingepuller says on 17/Sep/11
@Hansen I'm from Northern Germany. Average for young males is exactly 180,1 cm. For all males it's 179. So your friend at 191 wouldn't be especially tall. Just 'tall'. I'm 170 cm in the morning but can sometimes feel ordinary height as I live in Hamburg, where a lot of people from southern Europe live, who are often around my height. In my circle of friends there should be around 10 guys my height (+/- 3 cm) as well as 10 guys your friends height (+/- 3 cm). The rest is somewhere inbetween. So it amounts to 180 cm again. Average for young women is 165,8 cm, for all women it's 165. So overall German average height is 172 cm.
Man! I have to say, As a Northern German, you are too short. I am 189cm, have travelled Northern Germany some years ago, never felt I am tall in there. The Northern Germen are usually tall and big, especially for young kids. They are huge percent over 190cm+, at least 10%. And I remebered one day, I walked back the hotel, then stopped by a local high school or university, I was not sure. Just happened to those kids classes were over. I went over in front of them, most guys were as tall as I am, even quite a few of them are much taller than me(around 196-203). Maybe the tallest Germany boy among them was over 220cm. To be hoest, I usually has been considered as "tall guy", not so tall, but still tall. However, in that time, I never felt one teeny, tiny close to "tall". The first impression come to my mind is " I became a short man!"
Isaiah said on 28/Apr/13 Scott 5'11 My mom is 4'10 & my dad is 6 feet. I'm considered lucky to be standing at a strong 5'9 (177cm out of bed). Some people in south east Asia especially would kill to be your height lol just saying don't take it too harshly
Scott 5'11 said on 5/Feb/13 Just a quick not to a few of the younger site visitors I am almost 21 years old, 5'11 out of bed and just under for the rest of the day, my dad is 5'11.5 and mother is 5'4, your genes only play a certain part as I am shorter than my father although it's barely noticeable - half an inch makes a difference in photos but otherwise pointless. My point is you'll grow to what you'll grow - just accept it and embrace it as there's nothing you can do about it. Yes I'm unhappy I'm shorter than my dad (the father/son competitiveness growing up) but at 5'10.75-5'11 I'm not unhappy as I'm not short. Chin up.
Joseph said on 17/Jan/13 P says on 3/May/11
Hi i'm 19 years old indonesian and i'm 177 cm tall. is it tall for asian posture at that age? and how much is it counted in feet? thank you
It is rather tall for most asians. It would equate to 5 feet and 9,75 inches.
Aragorn 5'11 said on 17/Jan/13 Rob, in your opinion, what do you think is the best height to have?
[Editor Rob: a lot of men might say 6ft 1-2 would be a good height.
for me, I have made a living off the topic of height, so for me at 5ft 8, that's turned out to be a fine height for me.]
Multiplace said on 13/Jan/12 I think that if one man, which is tall only 175cm, have very good proportions
can look taller than a man which is tall 185 cm. Do you think like me ?
Arik said on 5/Oct/11 Hey rob! i have a question... I'm 16.10 years old, I'm from Israel and my height is 1.74~ actually, i'm not pretty happy with that, cause all of my friends are taller than me, about 1.80++
is that because i'm short or because they are tall? but in the other hand, i'm taller than all of the girls in my grade, but there are only 7~8 girls that they are taller than me.
and another question: how can i improve my height? I do eat fruits, vegtables and cheeze and staff. could it help? since i started eating those, I feel I'm growing up.
[Editor Rob: not everybody can be the same height. Personally, I do not think different of a 5ft man or a 6ft man, height is just a number that people are interested in, it doesn't make you a better or worse person, if you're not tall.]
Viel Eingepuller said on 17/Sep/11 @Hansen
I'm from Northern Germany. Average for young males is exactly 180,1 cm. For all males it's 179. So your friend at 191 wouldn't be especially tall. Just 'tall'.
I'm 170 cm in the morning but can sometimes feel ordinary height as I live in Hamburg, where a lot of people from southern Europe live, who are often around my height. In my circle of friends there should be around 10 guys my height (+/- 3 cm) as well as 10 guys your friends height (+/- 3 cm). The rest is somewhere inbetween. So it amounts to 180 cm again.
Average for young women is 165,8 cm, for all women it's 165.
So overall German average height is 172 cm.
Pesky Freak said on 10/Sep/11 Rob,at what age do people start to shrink in height ?
[Editor Rob: an injury could cause height loss in your 20's, but natural loss, by 50 you might notice a fraction lost.]
Pesky Freak said on 8/Sep/11 Rob, i want to ask you a question.How is it possible that my brother measures 1.83 m and when i stand next to him i'm over his forehead,but the tape measurer says i'm only 173 m which is too low for me.My father is 5'11 and we are basicly the same height! Please answer me! I think its the tape that is wrong,not my head!
[Editor Rob: what point of your brother face do you look at - his end of nose, his mouth?]
Hansen said on 22/Aug/11 one of my tallest friend who was a german-american born male friend studying in singapore with me he stand nothing less 6ft3.5 and he came from a tallish family average male 6ft2.5 female 5ft7 and he consider himself average height in family while travel back to germany he say he feel like a 6ft1 guy walking down the street.
rob, how tall is german average height?
r3v001 said on 16/Aug/11 Maximus I agree, Really curious about Rob(s) perspective on ideal height and weight for men and women, Rob hasnt responded lately he must be travelling, prob getting more height photos for the site (hard workin man) I think a guy really cant complain if he is between 5`10-6`5 even 5`9 is not so bad cause normal 1 in shoes can help you out 5`8 is the minimum height to get any reasonable respect in this society. 5`7 3/4 and lower and you gotta wear lifts to get respect and even then when you go to peoples houses and have to take there shoes off it game over. on the other hand if you are 6'5 you are the ultimate repected height without being considered by some freakish personally I think 6'9 is still ok but taller than that and you do start to look strange unless you are proportioned like basketball players but avaerage people that reach 6'10 and up always look off. plus above 6,6 and you are never flying coach or economy class again without feeling like a pretzel at the end of the flight. for weight respective to my opinion of ideal height 5'10-6'5, 180lbs and then 10 lbs for every inch up to 6'5 250 is max ideally you work out to attain these weights not being just fat.
[Editor Rob: for men I hear 6ft 2 mentioned as a height which is tall but not too tall. Similarly 5ft 9 for a women, but in order for those heights to be 'ideal' you need a bunch of the population under that mark, only a certain proportion of the population can be in the tall range.]
Maximus Meridius said on 15/Aug/11 Rob would you say 6ft 3in is a bad height for men since it's stand out height 5ft 6in and under is even a worser height for men i think i think the best tall height is 6ft 5ft 7in and 5ft 8in are good heights because they are near the average heights of 5ft 9in and 5ft 10in do you agree with me.
r3v001 said on 12/Aug/11 Rob would you agree? I'd say 6 ft is tall no matter where you are from. what do you think is perfect height and weight for men and women?
Maximus Meridius said on 29/Jul/11 Rob is 5ft 11in for men in the UK the end of average and the start of tall 6ft 3in is end of normal tall and the start of very tall standout height for men in the UK.
[Editor Rob: it's in the crossover range yeah, where you can still be tallish at 5ft 11, but at 6ft you'll find a lot more instances of being tall.]
Matt said on 1/Jul/11 @ aly, girls generally don't get much taller if any taller by age 16. Given where your parents are, I'd say you should be done. Your more average height than either of your parents (if you look at white Americans height).
Maximus Meridius said on 26/Jun/11 Hey Rob if the global average male height is 5ft 7.5in does that mean the global average female height is 5ft 1.5in because 5ft 7.5in men are equivalent to 5ft 1.5in women.
[Editor Rob: generally averages can be 5 inches shorter for females, so maybe 5ft 2 range.]
Maximus Meridius said on 12/May/11 If the gobal average male height is 170cm then the gobal average female is 155cm 155cm is not short for women because it's not many cms below average 170cm is not short for men because it's not many cms below average.
P said on 3/May/11 Hi i'm 19 years old indonesian and i'm 177 cm tall. is it tall for asian posture at that age? and how much is it counted in feet? thank you
Aly said on 26/Apr/11 I'm female, 16 and 5'5. My mum is 5'3 and my dad is 5'8.5. We're all Chinese but I was born and raised in Australia. How tall will I be by the time I fully stop growing? Should I be a bit taller taking into concern my parents' heights or am I pretty much where I should be?
SolidSnake said on 21/Mar/11 Fred at 5'6' you are in the bottom 15 percent of heights for men. And 167 cm is actually 5'5.75'
Fred said on 17/Mar/11 Hi friends, i'm peruvian and i´m 167cm (5feet 6 inches)flat.I consider i'm small here in peru ,because my friends are bout 6 foot ....so please comment about my height if i would live here in USA....
V;) said on 11/Mar/11 Im 13 and im 170cm, My mom is 168 and My dad is like 181cm, does someone like know how tall i'll be? And how much is 171cm in feet?
Anonymous said on 8/Mar/11 SolidSnake says on 26/Feb/11
Global average male height is 5'7.5 ish. This is because the giant popualtions of China and India are quite short. If you took a random person who lives on planet earth there is a 1 in 3 chance they are from China or India so it brings down average height a lot. In the US and UK however average is 5'9.5
5'7.5-5'8 are weak average heights.
Jonathan says on 11/Dec/10
@Anonymous I would say taller average. In Mexico, Vietnam or Japan (for example) you are quite tall. In Denmark or Netherlands you are quite short. I think the global average height is 5'8.5-5'9''
Personally, I think male average height starts at 5`8.5. 5`10-5`11 are weak tall heights.
SolidSnake said on 26/Feb/11 Global average male height is 5'7.5 ish. This is because the giant popualtions of China and India are quite short. If you took a random person who lives on planet earth there is a 1 in 3 chance they are from China or India so it brings down average height a lot. In the US and UK however average is 5'9.5
SolidSnake said on 26/Feb/11 And at Anonymous 5'10 is slightly above average height in the US. To be more precise it's 55th percentile. So you are taller than 55 percent of the adult male population in the US.
SolidSnake said on 26/Feb/11 The 4.5 Inch middle eye to top of head is a great indication and it's dead on for me
5foot7 said on 19/Jan/11 bodyshape acccounts for a lot a thin person of the same height appears taller im very broad and appear shorter than most men my height but would never sacrifice my size for height
Jonathan said on 11/Dec/10 @Anonymous
I would say taller average. In Mexico, Vietnam or Japan (for example) you are quite tall. In Denmark or Netherlands you are quite short. I think the global average height is 5'8.5-5'9''
F50 said on 3/Dec/10 @Anonymous: 1,77m is considered average. However, "real" male average height is shorter than 1,77m.
Bart said on 4/Nov/10 It depends on where you live, but it seems to be around average in most countries.
Anonymous said on 1/Oct/10 is 5.10 short, avg. or tall for a man????
lolo said on 18/Sep/10 we actually see people about 1.5-2 cm taller than they actually are because of hair
mitak said on 9/Aug/10 People tell me that from a distance I look 5'8-5'9ish and I'm 6' .How can you explain this ?
K.S said on 9/Jul/10 yes i does. at solid 6ft3(evening height)i usually sees 6ft2-6ft2.75 guy walking front of me makes me think they hit 6ft4 or so. more realistic im taller when they make a turn or standing close next to me.
Alex said on 24/Feb/10 Whenever I see the back of someone, I usually think I'm shorter than him. But when he turns around, I'm taller or the same height. Does anyone else experience this?
yoyo said on 17/Aug/09 sometime from distance when you see a person abit slouch but looks about your height tall when you see him eye to eye level same, but when you get closer to him. resulting might be the guy is few inches over you. never judge by eye level when seeing people from distance. man to man standing close thats the result of real height of both.
yoyo said on 3/Jun/09 i notice sometimes i walk pass some 6ft3 guy they could look even my height (6ft4.5) when i stand near them. must be shoe lift or an uneven floor they walk by..
bill said on 30/Mar/09 I feel that, unless the person is standing next to something in the picture of known height, it would be vertually impossible to know the height of that person.
1234 said on 26/Feb/09 I agree with J.Lee and Jes. I think its the other way around G man. I am five ten and whenever I stand next to someone who is slightly shorter than me I feel as if they are actually slightly taller than me. And whenever I stand next to someone who is my height actually I feel as if they are about an inch taller than me.
aram x said on 16/Feb/09 Photos can be a little misleading at times, and it can be very hard (if not impossible) to tell the exact height of someone with just photos or video footage alone, but from a good photo or footage you CAN AT LEAST TELL A good GUT INSTINCT FEELING of HOW TALL SOMEONE IS. For example, while our height estimates for Stadynk can be a few inches different, it's just blatantly obviously can't be 8,4".
J.Lee said on 7/Oct/08 Yes, G man i agree with jes. but i see your point. the reason is because a lot of times a girl is five foot nine and 3/4. I am five ten. and i usually think they are a little taller. but then when we compare in a mirror, the top of my head is a little higher. and so usually when a women is just a tiny bit shorter than me, i think she is a little taller. if she is five nine, i may think we are the same. but if she is 1 inch taller than me, i actually feel towered. when i measure myself, im shorter than when the doctors office does. cuz we forget that the top of our head is our height. However, when i see actors, i expect them to be super tall and so when they are my height, i tend to think I'm the taller one.
Arthur said on 17/Sep/08 A good way to get a pretty close estimate of a Celebs height is comparing them to a doorway, standard doorways are 6' 8" now, depending on if the Celeb is barefoot or in shoes most people can use common sense, Your averge Tennis shoe adds about 1" some add 1.5" Dress shoes are the same, While you can't get an absolute, certainly you can tell if someone is or is not 5' 8" or not within reason or if someone is claiming to be 6 foot. So, watch those Doorways.
lol said on 6/Aug/08 the truth is that when you see a person about your height you think always to be taller because you want it from afar he looks shorter than you until he gets close to you
T.K. said on 19/Jun/08 Was just next to Lupe back stage at one of the Kanye West concerts he's touring with. I'm 5' 6" and had on about 3" shoes and he was just a little taller than me so I would guess he's between 5'10" and 6 feet tall.
MJlover said on 30/Apr/08 I agree with Myster. I'm short too, and really want to look taller!
Myster said on 6/Apr/08 You should do one for " What makes someone look taller or shorter" because im short and i wanna look taller and maybe someone wants to look shorter
jes said on 1/Apr/08 g-mann wouldn't that work the other way around. people look taller than they actualy are because when u look at someone you can't always tell where the top of your own head is because of where your eyes are. you would only notice u r taller than someone if the top of there head is near your eye level. what do u think rob?
Danielle said on 23/Jan/08 This is great information. However, there's also something to be said about torso length. One of my friends is 5.8" while I am 5'9". I have longer legs than her, and she has a longer upper torso than I do. When we are sitting, she always appears taller than I am, and when we are standing, I am taller. :)
G-MANN said on 7/Jan/08 Here's something for everyone to think about, when you meet something who is close in height to you, it will always seem like you are a little bit taller because of the way your field of vision works, you still see above the top of their head (unless you get extremely close to them, like nose-to-nose) People only seem noticeable taller when they are 2 inches or more taller than you. I'm 6'1", if I was next to a guy who was 6' he probably wouldn't quite that tall from my visual perspective.
Crissy said on 6/Aug/07 Mark D. thats what makes it seem like some celebritys are bigger than they really are because the camera looks up towards them making them seem taller.
Mark D. said on 24/May/07 A lot of times I've noticed this. You can tell when an actor
is tall because the camera seems to be looking up at them...
TJ said on 28/Feb/07 What is Lupe fiasco's height?
Bibi-NL said on 13/Feb/07 Here is a good example of perspective in a picture: http://supernatural.serieunlimit.com/galerie/supernatural/promo/supernaturalpromo024.jpg
Everybody knows Jared Padalecki is a good few inches taller than Jensen Ackles but in this picture they seem about the same height.. combination of angle, and horrible posture in mr. Padalecki
Editor Rob said on 4/Jan/07 Trying to get ideal photos is harder than it sounds, ideally if you are 5ft 11-6ft you'd be in the best range. 5ft 8 is fine for short to 5ft 10, but you find 6ft-6ft 3 guys might have loose posture or slouch a little more than average height guys beside 5ft 8ers. So when you see a photo of a true 6ft 1 standing with same posture beside 5ft 8, many might think 'this guy is 6ft 2-3'.
Not many are like Tom Cruise/Stallone who regardless of who they are photographed with will stand tall. On the street can sometimes be a bit tricky, gotta watch some of those sidewalks.
Alex said on 4/Jan/07 And for example the picture with me and Kurt Angle. We're both the same distance from the camera, the floor was level, the shot was at a good angle, footwear was about the same I believe, but his posture is off and while he was really only 2.5 inches shorter than me, it looked between 3 and 4 inches. Also with a photo if its smaller it makes the difference bigger so you gotta go by it when its enlarged.
Editor Rob said on 27/Dec/06 Yes, its really to show you can never fully trust a mugshot to show the truth unless you have the camera near top of the head...in the Rose McGowan scene the angle doesn't add much to her height because I think the camera is at a decent height.
Alex said on 26/Dec/06 Rob, you're 5'8 and barefoot in the picture but you look over 5'11. I know if the camera is a bit lower it can make someone taller but by that much? Thats almost a 4 inch difference just having the picture take that far below.