How tall is Adolf Hitler

Adolf Hitler's Height

5ft 8 ½ (174 cm)

Infamous Austrian German leader. He was supposedly measured at 173cm for a physical by the Austrian Army, although In a book by David Irving "The War Path", he mentioned that "As seen by his doctors in 1939, Adolf Hitler stood 5 foot 9 inches in his socks and weighed about 155 pounds."

How tall is Adolf Hitler
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Average Guess (135 Votes)
5ft 8.55in (174.1cm)
Nik Ashton said on 5/Sep/19
The average guess is 5’8.55” (135 votes!)!
Bernd said on 23/Jun/19
Hitler certainly did not have an inferiority complex about being too short. He was neither short nor of medium height. Gâring's stature ("Gestalt") was tall ("groß") according to this passport (Click Here).
Bernd said on 23/Jun/19
Hello Rob, please write into the description that Hitler was 175 cm tall in 1923 when he entered Landsberg prison (Click Here). Secondly, there is not a single document that proves that he was measured by the Austrian Army.
MD said on 26/Apr/19
That is a load of rubbish. When you take the most recent comprehensive study done of height in Germany, the average for all adult males is 5'9" literally the same as that for all adult males in the U.S., meaning if you just took the the younger generation you'd maybe get an 1-1.5 inches higher. It's nowhere near 6'0".
david hyatt said on 23/Apr/19
Hitler was slightly above average height for Germans in his time - but now the average height for young Germans is easily 6 foot....this astonishing increase in just a couple of generations is due to a ruthless Nazi-style selective breeding campaign by young German women who have been grimly determined to mate with the tallest male they can get their hands on
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 20/Apr/19
My Birthday guess for Hitters is 5ft8.25. 🐝

Well, it IS his Birthday! 🐝

⭐️ Today he would have been 130.
Mr. Newman said on 29/Mar/19
Does someone know the height of the terrace of the Palais de Chaillot in Paris? If so, we could calculate Hitler's height.

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Miss Sandy Cowell said on 12/Mar/19
🐝 "Just after my honey sandwich and before my bathtime, I was watching 'The Chase' with my human companion/owner. There was a question asking, "Which German politician went to prison in 1924 for Treason?"

My dumb-assed owner, one Sandy Cowell, didn't know the answer! I, of course, did!

If you want a pretty little pet with a mighty sting in more ways than one, adopt a Bumble Bee!




Today, Hitler gets 5ft8.25. I, as in Sandy, saw a picture of him on the telly the other day and he was one of the shorter blokes featured. He didn't even look average, which, I must agree, is fairly unusual for him.
'Annonymous' said on 12/Mar/19
Hi Rob! I found something that could be useful, Hitler's medical report from 1936, in the second page of these documents Hitler was described in the "General" gap as 70 kg and 176 cm tall. Please look at: Click Here
Editor Rob
Yes it's been mentioned before that in medical files he was given 5ft 9 range for his height. Barefoot though? I am not sure about that...
Stephen Richards said on 10/Mar/19
Average height for this period of time
James G. said on 29/Jan/19
Sandy Cowell said on 23/Jan/19
😀🐝 5ft8.5 in all seriousness.
Tunman said on 21/Jan/19
Actually I was speaking of the average in the 1910's back when Hitler was in his 20's.Anyways comfortably over average yet maybe not tall.I doubt any serious person here tries to convince us he was a giant.Just upper average like a solid 6'german youngster would look today,in other words very common but still with more people shorter than taller
Christian 6'5" 3/8" said on 18/Jan/19
If the average height in Germany during Hitler's era was 172-173, then he wasn't considered tall at 174. That's only 1-2cm above average. I don't get why people are making him out to be a giant.
Derek Haberer said on 18/Jan/19
5'8 1/2" seems right to me
HonestSlovene said on 15/Jan/19
Young man in Germany in 1930s was probably 172-173 cm and today 179-180 cm (substract 1 cm for the general average), the height hasn't changed that much since the industrial revolution. Hitler always seemed slightly taller than most of his peers, even today he would be shortish at best.
Tunman said on 11/Jan/19
Yeah,today german youngters might be 179-80 on average.6'2" is still a solid tall height.In Hitler time youngsters might have been 170 on average so he was 4-5cm taller.Probably like a 184 today.Rather tallish than tall but it's indeed ridiculous to say he was short.But there was an important point back then:Nobility(from which most generals came)had much higher living standards than the rest of society so Hitler looked very average among them
HonestSlovene said on 9/Jan/19
@Firelight That's a bit extreme, I'd say 5'9" was the same as 5'11" today in Germany: Solid/upper average, common height.
Sandy Cowell said on 4/Jan/19
Firstly, Hitters can have 5ft8.25.

Secondly, I'm here to report that I am watching an Australian edition of 'The Chase' and Anne Hegerty and the contestant she's taking on just had a question asking "Who was voted man of the year in Time magazine in 1938?"

Yes, you're right everyone! It was Hitler himself, and everyone got it right, including me! I must say, a certain bee (Jaffa, of course, the history-loving bee) is feeling rather nauseous!

Blaaa! Hughie! 🐝 "I'm off to bed!"
Firelight said on 27/Dec/18
Rob, it's so silly media put him as midget, while being 5ft9 100 hundreds years back then was the same as 188 cm today in Germany according to percentile graph. He was ineed tall for his times
Editor Rob
He certainly wasn't a short guy by German standards of that 1930-40 era.
Tunman said on 14/Dec/18
5'8.5-9 is Ok for him.I think one could rule out heights over this since Irving himself described him 5'9
MrFish said on 5/Dec/18
Rob, do you think that if I met Hitler is his 20s or 30s, we would be almost indistinguishable in height? Or might I have had a slight edge?
Editor Rob
In photos you might look indistinguishable, I think in the morning 9-10am he would be over 5ft 8.5.
Rising - 174 cm said on 13/Nov/18
I see about 6.5" there as well. I do believe the 50 year old Hitler was a full 5'9", but he likely lost height in the last few years of his life and who knows just how much of a height loss would be possible in the final 6 years he lived considering the enormous stress, his odd and unhealthy sleep habits and rapidly deteriorating health. He may have been the full 5'9" peak, but closer to 5'8" when he died.
Tunman said on 24/Aug/18
Yeah,Kaltenbrunner was among the tallest,his papers gave his height as 192.
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Skorzeny was also among the tallest though maybe a little smaller than Kaltenbrunner.In another similar pic the difference seemed no more than 5.5" but it seems more like 6.5" here.Assuming Hitler may have lost a fraction by late 1943 and headed towards 5'8-8.25" Skorzeny was likely 6'2.5" or even 6'2.75".Just strange how we always have fluctuation in the sources.He was described as 6'4,his papers gave 192 and Guido Knopp in his book about the SS described him as a 190cm Standartenfuhrer (most believable)
Mark Harrison said on 19/Aug/18
Kaltenbruner was the tallest at 6'4".
Sandy Cowell said on 18/Aug/18
@ Christian 5ft5 and 3/8ths - It is possible that your cousin genuinely overestimates his own height and therefore yours as well. I used to honestly think I was 5ft4, one-and-a-half inches more than my peak and I have never been anywhere near that. I thought I saw eye-to-eye with 5ft4 people until I saw the evidence in a window reflection. I'm lucky if I'm 5ft1 now!
Sandy Cowell said on 16/Aug/18
⭐️ Christian and Canson - I omitted to mention that my Mum had two German/Austrian half-brothers, much older than she was. Although I was only 7,8 and 9 when I met them, I remember them to be very kind - and very much below average height! I doubt they were even as tall as my Mum!
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Aug/18

It sure is kinda funny. He's the same guy who called me 6'7" when I met him a number of years ago. I've never had a chance to call him out on it, but I will when I see him again. I live on the west coast of the US and he lives across on the east coast so I rarely see him unless on family reunions.
Sandy Cowell said on 15/Aug/18
@ Canson - You're very tall as well, aren't you? Over 6ft4 if my memory serves me correctly! I've walked about in shoes with 7" heels before, and I can best liken it to it feeling a little akin to a fairground ride, coming right back down to Earth when I take them off again!

Yes, I think there's a distinct possibility that certain official measuring bodies don't insist on shoes being taken off. I have even experienced that myself at the doctor's AND at hospitals, so Christian's ultra tall cousin might easily have received an 'authentic' measurement of 6ft9.

Cheers Canson! πŸ˜‰
Canson said on 14/Aug/18
@Sandy Cowell: a lot of people claim their shoes. Christian’s cousin may be more like β€œnear” 6’9” in shoes in the AM or 6’8.5 and rounded up. But yea I don’t get it either because that’s too tall. Neither is desireable height but if I had to choose 6’7” over 6’9”
Sandy Cowell said on 14/Aug/18
@ Christian 6ft5 and 3/8 - At 6ft7 and a quarter, your cousin has no need to diddle his height by nearly 2 inches! I think it's quite funny really; there won't be many people tall enough to take a really good look at him, unless in pictures. He doesn't wear lifts surely... does he? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

I'm not sure how many of my German relatives are still alive. Three of my German cousins, two especially, were old enough to be my father! The two eldest ones' father was only called Adolf - honest! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜―πŸ˜πŸ˜•πŸ˜­

My Mum pronounced it 'Ar-dolf'. He was supposed to be a lovely man, but I never met him!

Enjoy your week, Christian! πŸ˜‰πŸ‘
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Aug/18

The tallest relative currently I'm aware of is a 6'7.25" cousin of mine, who claims 6'9" for some odd reason. I was told that I have a 6'6" granduncle but I've never met him and I'm not sure if he's still alive or not so I can't confirm it.
Sandy Cowell said on 13/Aug/18
@ Christian 6ft5 3/8 - I had a tall English Uncle who was 6ft1 or 2, probably 6ft2. He was the tallest of the ones I'm aware of!

He was the tallest of my Dad's brothers.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Aug/18

Thank you! BTW, do you have any very tall relatives like 6'3" or taller?
Lapinux said on 10/Aug/18

180 cm I believe. It's 175-178 in rural areas though.
Sandy Cowell said on 10/Aug/18
@ Christian 6ft5 and 3/8ths

That's a very interesting pointer! I have many male German relatives and they are of average or a tiddly bit over average height. My German Grandmother (1897-1970), however, was only about 5ft my Mum said, and her (Mum's, that is!) optimum height was 5ft4.5. Her brother was around 5ft8 and physically very fit. I guess that my below average height might have been inherited from my Grandmother; my Great Grandmother was even smaller but my Great Great Grandmother was positively tall!

One thing's for sure though - if I ever met you, I WOULD get neck strain!

Cheers Christian and have a great weekend! πŸ˜πŸ‘
cmillzz said on 10/Aug/18
What height is considered 50th percentile now in Germany?
Paul Wood said on 10/Aug/18
Heinrich Himmler is often listed as 5ft 8.5in (174cm) and Hitler often appears very slightly taller than him in photos so I'd day 5ft 8.9in (175cm) is correct for Hitler. Martin Bormann is usually listed as 5ft 7in, but to me he often looks shorter than that in photos. Josef Goebbels is listed as 5ft 5in in many places but I think he was 5ft 4in. Goering is usually listed as 5ft 10in but must have had very posture sometimes because he often looks two inches shorter than that. Reinhard Heydrich was over 6ft 3in (191cm).
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Aug/18

Not in Germany but certainly about average in places like US and UK.
Nik said on 9/Aug/18
@ Sandy Cowell - I think you may be absolutely right, Rob is very accurate with his height listings but that is not always the case with everyone else! There is so much human bias in terms of height plus so many people are not that bothered about bang-on accuracy!

I am inclined to agree with Rob's listing, Hitler generally gives a 5'8" impression! Interestingly he is generally down as 5'9" online, but ... On one website he is down as being 5'7" (170 cm)!
Sandy Cowell said on 9/Aug/18
A point might worth bearing in mind is that it only really became a stipulation that shoes be taken off when the Insurance Companies and the NHS were preparing height/weight charts. When they were measuring lads for the Army services in the late 19th century/early 20th century, won't they have all worn exactly the same shoes? Of course they will, and I can't imagine that they'll have deemed it necessary to fiddle around for bang-on accuracy. Some might have found it a bit prissy!

Just a thought...
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Aug/18
Well 5'9" was supposed to be in socks in 1939, but we don't know if that was closer to his high or low because Hitler kept unusual hours.
Nik said on 8/Aug/18
@ cmillzz - Yeah, he would be average range today!

@ Tunman - I agree with you too!
Tunman said on 6/Aug/18
Ultimately one may only wonder if the 175 (5'9)wasn't in a typical 0.5"prison shoes?I think 5'8.5"-9"is the arguable range.I swear he could often look close to Ribbentrop in pics but without any favoring angle or distance he's very likely 3 maybe 4cm smaller max.
Agree,likely upper average for his time.
cmillzz said on 6/Aug/18
@Rampage, it still is average range today.
Nik said on 5/Aug/18
@ tree - I like your name!

Mr Hitler was high average for his time!
Sandy Cowell said on 5/Aug/18
This Sunday evening, I, Jaffa (🐝), the history-loving, humble Bumble Bee and his girlfriend Twitty (🐦), would like to give Hitters a realistic 5ft8.5.
Rising - 174 cm said on 4/Aug/18
I can easily buy 5'9" in 1939 when he was in good health, but his health declined dramatically by '44-'45 and it's probable he lost height considering he may have not lived more than a few more years regardless.
tree said on 3/Aug/18
There is an angle tilt in hitlers favour,this is the real difference Click Here
Mark Harrison said on 12/Jul/18
He holds up well with 6'4" Otto Skorzeny: Click Here
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 2/Jul/18
Was average range for that time
Jake the Snake said on 1/Jul/18
Hey Rob would you say as a young man Hitler would have been prettty close to 5'9 ? For example in his 20s
Editor Rob
5ft 8.5 to 9 might be a range he could have measured. I think the more I've seen over the years, the 5ft 8 flat is too low, but above 5ft 9 too high.
Mark Harrison said on 19/Jun/18
Hitler's medical examination records in April 1924 described him as 5'9" and 169 lbs: Click Here

He reportedly gained weight during Operation Citadel in 1943.
Jaye said on 12/Jun/18
Barefoot 173cm with a possible 1-2cm increase in his boots.
Sandy Cowell said on 7/Jun/18
@ 6ftMedium - Hitler certainly came over that way to my Mum's eyes. She used to see him when she went to school as a very little girl before the war. She was only about seven, a time when adults all seem like giants to children, but she said there was something seedy about him - and I must emphasise that this was long before the war, probably about 1930, so nobody had realised his true evil yet.


She must have had a good instinct for what was bad, but I can't dock his height for it! Hitters gets 5ft8 from me today. πŸ’©πŸ–•πŸ˜πŸ¦‡
6ftMedium said on 4/Jun/18
Actually Hitler was relatively short.And like most dictators he had Napoleon complex.So he is 5'7" at most.
MrFish said on 18/May/18
Rob, what would you estimate for Hitler's weight as Fuhrer? 155-170?
Editor Rob
Maybe 165 pounds at times.
robson said on 30/Apr/18
Anyway he is taller than I thought he was. In history books is always said he was "rather short" or even "short" when 5'8-5'9 is not so short and within those times! It's alike for someone to be about 5'10 in nowdays or so. Is that short person? Maybe not tall but not short for sure.
Floky said on 10/Apr/18
Rob, my grandmother saw Hitler in her childhood and she said me that he was BIIIG! Is that possible that he appeared tall back in the day?
Editor Rob
Hitler may have had an intimidating presence to some people, one that left a greater impression of height on them.
Nik said on 6/Apr/18
@ Sandy Cowell

He was quite tall then for the 1940's!

Sandy Cowell said on 4/Apr/18
This time round, I'd 🐝 inclined to agree with the average and put 5ft8.5 as there is plenty of evidence to support this.
Tunman said on 2/Apr/18
Since he could look 2.5"taller than Mussolini,it's definitely possible he was 5'9 but anything over that is a joke.He was also listed at 175 in Landsberg prison records.So the question is whether Mussolini was indeed 5'6.5" and whether Hitler was measured barefeet in prison.Btw he looked anywhere from 174-5 with Ribbentrop anywhere from 173-5 with Himmler,anywhere from 174-5 with Goering (assuming the latter was much more like 5'9).I read many sources that gave 174 which could really be a possiblity but I just wonder from where the figure was taken.
MrFish said on 31/Mar/18
Rob, what's the tallest you could possibly believe that Hitler was?
Editor Rob
5ft 9 is always an arguable figure, given what he was supposed to have been measured at...
D-dragon said on 15/Mar/18
How tall was the average german in ww2 ?
MrFish said on 5/Mar/18
Rob, here's a photo of his prison record that lists him 175 cm and 73 kg. Do you think peak 173-4 range?

Click Here
Editor Rob
175cm is the kind of height I'd expect Hitler to have claimed himself. I still feel 174cm is possible, over 175 I can't believe.
Rick1 said on 4/Mar/18
Rob looking at this how tall would you say Gobbels is ? According to Wikipedia he is 5’5 but I would say he is more 5’4?Click Here
Editor Rob
He looks barely 5ft 8 there, but there's other shots out there of him looking 3,4 inches on Joseph.
MAD SAM said on 31/Jan/18
@ Tunman
WW1 did not benefit Russia because of the civil war within the country that led to collapse of the eastern front in 1917
MAD SAM said on 16/Jan/18
Look at his photos with Neville Chamberlain if Neville was 6’2” then Adolf Hitler is 5’11” or even close to 6’0”
Mark said on 14/Jan/18
I would be surprised if Hitler ever wore lifts, because it has never been mentioned by anyone who knew him.
Letorgi said on 5/Jan/18
173 cm for me
Tunman said on 29/Dec/17
Could have been a way to put Europe under full dictatorship,Richard but the question is whether Stalin would have accepted that most of eastern Europe be under Nazi control,not sure.We will never know,but the tense relations between germans and soviets after July 1940(i.e Annexation of Baltic States and Bessarabia by the soviets and German treaties with Romania and Finland)show that both countries were hardly accepting each other sphere of influence.Hmmm,I don't know if the apparent cold war that prevailed in 1940-41 between the reich and USSR would have lasted eternally.Also peace with Britain was impossible after Hitler invaded Northern and Western Europe,as too many interests and friendly nations have been affected.Ironically,every time someone brought war in Europe(cossacks,swedish,ottomans,french,germans),it turned to Russia's advantage since mid 17th Century onwards (except WW1).
Richard said on 27/Dec/17
5'8.5" may have bee his height in middle age, but he was probably 5'9" as a young man.

Hitler should have formed a full alliance with the Soviet Union after the British rejected his peace offers in July 1940.
MAD SAM said on 15/Dec/17
The leader of third reich was indeed 5’9” tall
marshall said on 12/Dec/17
i think he is 5ft 9in
James said on 7/Dec/17
He took German citizenship. He was 5'10", same height as Chamberlain.
Xavier said on 3/Dec/17
Lol his moustache.
He was Austrian. Born in Braunau am Inn.
5 foot 8.
James said on 28/Nov/17
What was Neville Chamberlain's real height?
Nik said on 18/Nov/17
@ Raj

Before I hit the sack I will answer your comment. Yes, 5'8" is a good height and even nowadays it is a solid average worldwide, and historically it has always been above average or tall. The facts you gave were fascinating!
Finally, you have 22 cm on me! Welcome to celebheights!
Rajz said on 18/Nov/17
Regarding Charles de Gaulle, I think the members here are right......he seems to be 192-193 likely.
James said on 18/Nov/17
The Vikings were before the Middle Ages.
Rajz said on 18/Nov/17

5'8" is indeed a decent height.

Most of the people in the world live in the Tropical locations, especially Asia,
here 5'8" is above average due to the conditions of heat and humidity.

Exceptions will always be present, like many tribes on the Afghanistan frontier are known for their towering traits.

5'8" may be called "short" in Scandinavian nations, New Zealand and like Nik mentioned in some Eastern European countries.

If you scour through the internet you will find that even the fearsome Vikings of the middle ages were 5'7" in their era.
James said on 17/Nov/17
De Gaulle did not look 6'5" during World War II.
Nik said on 17/Nov/17
@ Sandy Cowell @ Rajz

You came up with a great point Rajz in that neither Hitler nor Napoleon were short for their eras. I don't even think Hitler would be short nowadays! Not in height anyway! I have seen many sites on the Internet listing famous short men from the past and incredibly these sites typically list men who were 5'8", which was probably never short at any time in previous centuries throughout any country in the world. Even now 5'8" is only short in some Eastern European countries really. Listen to this, a few sites even classify famous men of 5'9" from previous centuries as short!

Have a great weekend both of you!
anon176 said on 17/Nov/17
In that pic Hitler appears 7cms taller (Mussolins Eyes at 88 mouth). I can buy the 192 figure for de Gaulle, 6ft 5 range is a myth.

I think you should keep silent about the history, neither we nor historians have a real plan.
Rajz said on 17/Nov/17
de Gaulle and Churchill,I think de Gaulle is wearing those army style boots....don't know about Churchill's footwear...

Click Here
Rajz said on 17/Nov/17

Interesting insight on de Gaulle.

I took the Wikipedia reference of 196 cm on de Gaulle. French army wasn't very professional in those days so a inaccurate reading could be expected :P

Maybe we need some photographs on de Gaulle.
James said on 17/Nov/17
Since Mussolini often appeared barefoot in public we can safely discount the possibility of him wearing lifts. If he had fought a limited war in the Mediterranean he might have succeeded. Instead of invading Greece he should have focused on taking Malta, as that would have dealt a crippling blow to the British Empire and encouraged Spain to officially join the conflict. Mussolini's main mistake was not joining the war when it began, because then the Germans would have been more willing to help him.
Rajz said on 17/Nov/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Hi, this page is the first one on which I made a comment, though I had visited this site before.

I am slightly below 193 cm, though I am excercising to close the gap :P
Tunman said on 17/Nov/17
De Gaulle was measured at 192 in Saint Cyr.He was also described in a documentary as the tallest person to have ruled in France along with King François 1er.Most french sources give him 193 though.
Rajz said on 16/Nov/17
Does anyone know the height of Lord Mountbatten?

You could compare all of South Asian leaders with its help :P
Rajz said on 16/Nov/17
Mussolini was very retro in his objectives, bringing the Roman salute, trying to redeem the Ethiopian defeat of 1890s and still looking for colonies as late as 1920s.

The Italians had not fielded a decent army in almost 1600 years, so getting into the modern Blitzkrieg war was never going to work.

Though Mussolini's manual of "Fasicm for Dummies" did serve as Hitler's guidebook in the early years.
Rajz said on 16/Nov/17

Thanks, yeah maximum 2.5" can be possible in the pic
James said on 16/Nov/17
Mussolini's official height of 5'6.5" sounds correct, especially if it was a police measurement. It is misleading to say Spain was neutral however - Franco sided with Germany for most of the war. Yes Mussolini entered the war in order to seize British and French colonies in Africa and the Mediterranean. He was more of an old-fashioned imperialist like Churchill. It was a good thing that Italy joined World War II as it immediately led to the North African Campaign, the Battle of the Mediterranean and the Siege of Malta. Without these campaigns the British Empire would have lasted for longer and Britain would have continued killing millions of people in India.
Tunman said on 15/Nov/17
Nice pic,Rajz.If anything he looks 2.5"max taller than Mussolini who was measured at 167cm by police so like 173-4.Listing is still fine.
I doubt Mussolini wore lifts,it was never mentioned in any book or article I read about him so far.He had neither Hitler's megalomany nor Stalin's complexes.Just an average dictator with quite "normal" behaviour.His biggest mistake was that he sided with Hitler in the war.Had he stayed neutral,he would have ruled Italy without anyone to remove him to his death,much like Franco or Salazar.Also,fascism was very different from nazism,harsh rule,but not criminal against humanity(no holocaust,no mass executions,no hunger plan or else).Seems like he wanted his own colonies,like UK and France.
Nik said on 15/Nov/17
@ Rajz

No problem , it's a pleasure!
Sandy Cowell said on 15/Nov/17
@ Nik - Oh, I see! I should have worked that one out for myself really! πŸ˜‚
I like 'Hitters' and the reason for that is that it just came out unrehearsed! It sounds like an irksome name, and one which would have driven him crazy if he'd been called that, even in a playful way! You know what I mean? πŸ‘†πŸ
The 'other' version, the one with the 's', is delightful too, of course! πŸ’©

@ Rajz - Hi! πŸ™‹ You are new here, aren't you? πŸ˜• It's good to have your company! How tall are you? πŸ’πŸ“
(Nik will probably ask you this soon, if he hasn't done already!)
Rajz said on 15/Nov/17
@ Nik

James said on 15/Nov/17
Did Mussolini ever wear lifts like Stalin?
Nik said on 14/Nov/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Have a great evening!

@ Rajz

You have put a lot of work into those comments!
Rajz said on 14/Nov/17
Hitler and Mussolini.....would have been more interesting if Mussolini had hairπŸ˜€

Click Here
Rajz said on 14/Nov/17
@ Sandy Cowell @Nik

Nik said on 14/Nov/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Sandy Cowell said on 14/Nov/17
@ Rajz - Interesting comments! πŸ‘
James said on 14/Nov/17
Hitler was 2-3 inches taller than Mussolini.
Nik said on 14/Nov/17
@ Sandy Cowell

S******* means *hitters! I can't write it out in full because Rob has a swear filter to edit out such words!

It looks like Rajz has provided yet more evidence that Hitler was a "flat as a pancake" 5'8", there was certainly no fizz with this guy!

Have a fab week Sandy!
Rajz said on 13/Nov/17
Neither Hitler nor Napoleon were "short" by any stretch of imagination. They were both average or possibly plus.

Its just that their personalities are shaped by historical perspective.

Take Bill Clinton, still quite popular. His was 6'2 at peak, which is indeed tall. But I was surprised at first that he was....only 6'2?.

That is the perception which people make.

Same with Michael Phelps, everyone quotes him as 6'4 regardless of facts.
Rajz said on 13/Nov/17
I highly doubt that Hitler was 5'9 in 1939, he was 50 by then.

Granted that Hitler didn't suffer any limb injuries in WW-1(He had eye troubles with a Gas attack), he kept his peak height intact till 1930s.

Hitler's Doctor was a infamous Munich physician who prescribed drugs and other bizzare remedies, obviously Hitler's health kept deteriorating in late 1930s.

Hitler Peak 5'8, by 1930s 5'7

A 5'9 Hitler should have been well clear over a 5'6 Mussolini, he was clearly not, in any photograph with the "Duce"
Rajz said on 13/Nov/17
@ Sandy Cowell


Few historical perspectives,

Peter the Great - 6'6 to 6'8.....trouble with such personalities is that they are so above the mark for their time that they are open to exxageration

Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia - 6'4 to 6'6, again popular perspective tends to make a exact prediction difficult

We find a range rather than an exact number
Sandy Cowell said on 13/Nov/17
@ Nik - Twitty says thanks! 🐦
So does Jaffa because he cares a lot for his girlfriend!

Enjoy the coming week Nik! πŸ‘
James said on 12/Nov/17
If Hitler was measured as 5'9" in 1939 then his peak height in 1907 could have been 5'9.5". With hindsight it would have been better if the British had allowed the Madagascar Plan to be carried out after the Fall of France, then the Holocaust might not have happened.
Sandy Cowell said on 12/Nov/17
@ Rajz - I think your suggestion of more historical figures going up on celebheights is a brilliant idea!

@ Nik - Yes, it was bound to happen again, wasn't it?
By the way, what does s******* mean? 🍺🐝
Doubtful said on 12/Nov/17
By the way, is there a photo of Hitler with a woman taller than him? I have only seen photos with taller men.
Nik said on 12/Nov/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Error report!

Sorry, I meant 5 of us!

@ Rajz

Well, that's all the proof we need!
Rajz said on 11/Nov/17
@Nik, @Sandy Cowell

Lets give credible Historic figures a place here,
de Gaulle 6'5,
Napolean 5'6(average for his time), Bismarck 6'3(high for his time),

As for Hitler 5'8.....based on Paul Hindenburg, he was 6'5 in his prime and easily trumped Hitler by 1/2 feet even in his 80s....lot of photographs of Hinderburg and Hitler together
Nik said on 11/Nov/17
@ Sandy Cowell - Fancy seeing you on this page! No I am not impressed with s******* this Saturday afternoon or at any time for that matter!

@ Rajz - That makes 4 of us!
Sandy Cowell said on 11/Nov/17
@ Nik - I will also give hitters a flat and unfizzy 5ft8!

@ Rajz - I don't care for him much either! Nor does Jaffa 🐝
or his girlfriend Twitty! 🐦
I'm sure Nik is none too impressed with the H man either!
Rajz said on 10/Nov/17
Don't care much about Hitler,

but Mr.Editor.....Charles de Gaulle deserves a page on here....a strong 6'5"
James said on 10/Nov/17
Halifax was said to be 6'5".
Doubtful said on 10/Nov/17
@Will The minimum is 5'9". He had never been measured smaller.
Will said on 8/Nov/17
I am quite sure that Hitler was 5'8".
Doubtful said on 7/Nov/17
Look at this photo of Lord Halifax and Hitler: Click Here. Skorzeny looks as tall as Lord Halifax, who stood 6'4" (Click Here).
anon176 said on 6/Nov/17
Skorzeny can really measure up to 188.5 depending on his own eye-level.
anon176 said on 6/Nov/17
For me that's a 187 (Otto Skorzeny) if Hitler was 173 at that point. Hitlers eye-level is under his chin.
Tunman said on 6/Nov/17
It was perhaps a requirement but it was never really respected.Guido Knopp in his book about the SS mentions that the Totenkopf Division (formed by KZ guards)were required to be at least 174cm but their leader Theodor Eicke was only 173 according to one listing and actually looked clearly smaller than Himmler no way only 1cm difference,Knopp also mentions further in the book that from 1938 onwards the doctors were asked to soften their standards for recruitement(except concerning hereditary diseases or jewish ancestry)
Click Here tall do you think Otto Skorzeny measured?He's listed at 6'4 and also 192 but I find it a little unlikely,assuming that the pic was taken in 1943 at which time Hitler already developed Parkinson disease and was 5'8-8.25"at best.could he be a legit 189 and 192 in boots?In other pics with Hitler he looks no more than 185 but of course he's taller than thatClick Here
Doubtful said on 5/Nov/17

178 cm was a requirement since December 1936 (Click Here).

The Landsberg prison document is a good source. According to Click Here, Morell measured him in 1937 to be 175.26 cm. But what is confusing is that Morell mentioned 176 cm somewhere else.


Some people are convinced that he had a Napoleon complex.
Editor Rob: they couldn't have stored the data as 175.26 though, it must have been stored in 5 feet 9 inches and the person writing down that 175.26 has converted it.
Tunman said on 5/Nov/17
Click Here could look slightly shorter than 5'9 Hess,like 0.5"-0.75"max.Also,I saw that some sources gave him 5'8.5,which are more credible than 173 I think.To be that precise could mean it stemmed from a measurement?Here is a very good pic of Hitler with Ribbentrop that shows he's definitely shorter than him,if anything he's a genuine 174 and again a chance for 175 but no moreClick Here
Anonymous said on 4/Nov/17
I am not sure why some sources want to portray Hitler as a very short guy. He was not tall but he wasn't short either.
Tunman said on 4/Nov/17
Doubtful said on 2/Nov/17
Everybody in the Leibstandarte had to be at least 1.78 m tall so that they were able to protect Hitler from bullets
B*llsh*t!Even their leader general Sepp Dietrich was probably no more than 167 (and anyways listed 170 which is generous compared to Hitler and Himmler looks a good 7cm smaller).
Once and for all,it's a pure legend that the nazis were tall or even had organisations based on height,the only fact,which also applies to the Red Army is that generals,basically all born before 1900 enjoyed higher life standards and were already adults for most of them at the outbreak of WW1 in 1914 and the subsequent hardships (famine,disease...)
Yes Hitler certainly shrunk by 1944,I just saw a documentary about his health and at one moment they made a comparison between his posture in 1940 at the time of the Battle of France where his posture was still impeccable and 1944 where he clearly had a poor posture.How much actual loss though is the question.Anyways again the max arguable is 175cm since that's what he was measured in prisonClick Here always a possibility but anything more is a joke and he was definitely smaller than Ribbentrop.174 is still my opinion though.
Doubtful said on 2/Nov/17

Speer would have done so for sure.


Yes, he shrunk. Look at his posture in 1944 (Click Here). Traudl Junge, who had served him as secretary, recalled him saying (Click Here), "Eva always wants me to keep my back straight."
Doubtful said on 2/Nov/17
Everybody in the Leibstandarte had to be at least 1.78 m tall so that they were able to protect Hitler from bullets.
Nik said on 29/Oct/17
@ Sandy Cowell - Hi!

Voting time! I think I will stick with 5'8"!

James said on 29/Oct/17
Many other people said he was 5'9". His main mistake was not declaring war on the United States in September 1940 after the Destroyers for Bases Agreement.
MrFish said on 22/Oct/17
Rob, I think it's reasonable that, in his prime, Hitler would have been about 174 cm, and that he might have shrunk down to 173 cm by the 1940s. After all, many of the testimonials of people who met him say 5ft 8in, so I really don't think he was much taller than that. What do you think?
Editor Rob: somewhere in 174 range I think is probably reasonable based on all information at hand, but I can see how anywhere from 5ft 8 to 9 range could be argued.
Luke said on 10/Oct/17
Well,lost the bet , my friend was closer , than what I though! Thank-you & good nite.
Bobby said on 26/Sep/17
Google lists him at 175cm, I wonder if Hitler was 5'9 in his 20s or something and lost a fraction by his 50s, especially since he was riddled with problems, such as Parkinson's but I don't know if that can affect a person's height or not.
Nik said on 11/Sep/17
@ Sandy Cowell - Hey!

Guess what I missed as well three days ago? Thankfully there are repeats of it like you said.
Yes, a girl couldn't ask for more than what Jaffa brings to the table, and I don't just mean his honey!
Who knows, we may even revise our estimates on Adolf's height after seeing the programmes!

You have a great week too Sandy!
Sandy Cowell said on 11/Sep/17
@ Nik - Absolutely! The reason I suggested that the dudes who visit this page watch the 'Supernatural Nazi' series of programmes was because it would appeal to their historical interest. I do hope some visitors got something from the programme. What I saw was very informative and the footage of Hitler and others was amazing.
If I come across any more interesting programmes I will let the people who take an interest in this historical period know as soon as I find out about them. It might be worth mentioning that they show war programmes on the 'Yesterday' Channel ever so often. If we can't come to some reasonable conclusion as to Hitler's height soon, I'll be most surprised!
And no more messing about from me!
Apart from 🐝, and that's because he is a seriously nice fellow who loves history! πŸ“š
And takes canaries to bed!
Especially this one - 🐦(Twitty!)
Sandy Cowell said on 10/Sep/17
@ Nik - Hey! Guess what I missed yesterday?
Would you believe it? I had been waiting for it all week as well! Ah well, I can always catch it Wednesday night/Thursday morning when it is repeated. Until then, I'm sure Jaffa will fill me in! 🐝He's such a wonderful young bumble bee! I have yet to meet one with such impeccable manners πŸπŸ’¨ and so much joie de vivre in general! AND he is interested in history! What more can a girl ask for?
The only trouble is, the Police are beginning to suspect him of leading the local canaries 🐀πŸ₯🐦 astray! They knocked at my door last week, (NOT the canaries!) asking if I knew someone fitting his πŸπŸ‘”πŸ‘–πŸ’ΌπŸ’°description. Of course, I denied ever mixing with his kind!

Have a great week Nik!

James said on 10/Sep/17
Just to clarify, lack of oil was the main reason Hitler invaded the Soviet Union in 1941. Obviously he wanted to invade anyway for other reasons, but the oil crisis was why he launched Barbarossa while the war with the UK was still ongoing.
James said on 9/Sep/17
If Hitler had worn lifts someone like Speer would have mentioned it after the war.
Nik said on 9/Sep/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Yes,I will be watching out for people to compare him to and for images of him being stood up straight! Maybe the programme would be a good watch for all people who frequent this page, and for 🐝! amd 🐦! of course!
anon176 said on 9/Sep/17
Yeah it was oil hahaha
Sandy Cowell said on 8/Sep/17
@ Nik - I have to agree that a programme has to be paused at the relevent parts as and when necessary in order to take in someone's height as thoroughly as possible! πŸ‘Œ
Good luck with that!
James said on 7/Sep/17
War between Germany and the Soviet Union was clearly inevitable, and in any case Hitler needed more oil to continue the war against the British Empire. Delaying Barbarossa would have given Stalin more time to rearm and modernise the Red Army.

I do think there is probably a tendency to portray Hitler as short simply because he was an evil dictator.
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Sep/17
I'm inclined to agree with James/Richard. I don't see any proof or any real reason to believe Hitler wore lifts. 5'9" in socks at age 50 sounds plausible to me. I do believe the stories of Stalin wearing them, though because specifics are included and there are so many different reports of Stalin's insecurity about his height. I don't think Hitler was that bothered with his height or had much reason to be either. I think in the absence of some solid evidence of lifts, the 1939 measurement adds up quite well with most of the reference heights we know.

The truth about the Soviets was buried and obscured for so long. It took 3 decades for the general public to know The Allies made a deal to repatriate Soviet POWs. This is such a heinous crime because under decrees like Stalin's Order. 270, all captured Soviet soldiers were considered traitors and typically shot, or at best(or worst?), sent to the Gulag or Lubyanka to die a slower death. This was not unknown by the Allies either. I won't get into all of the enormous blunders(or treason in some cases considering the State Department in those years) such as not taking Berlin, but it's incredible how much even that Molotov-Ribbentrop pact even got overlooked. Many also don't seem aware that Stalin wasn't much more fond of Jews than Hitler was.
Nik said on 6/Sep/17
@ Sandy Cowell

I most certainly will watch it! I think the programme on Saturday will have to be recorded, and when I watch the recording you will not be surprised to know that the pause button will be pressed a lot in order to take in Hitler's height!

Sandy Cowell said on 5/Sep/17
I am with Nik, Grey and
🐝Jaffa🐝: Hitler was 5ft8 or thereabouts.

There is a very interesting programme called 'Supernatural Nazis' on Channel 5 on Saturday evening at 8 o'clock. The third and final one will be this Saturday, but you can catch the repeat of the second one on Wednesday at 3.10 in the morning, inconvenient I know, but you can always set your recorders! There are many opportunities to see him on the programme, which contains a great deal of good quality footage! πŸ˜‰
Kev said on 3/Sep/17
Mussolini could have been wearing lifts in that photograph. Hitler was still easily 2.5 inches taller than his Italian ally.
Nik said on 3/Sep/17
I am with Grey. Hitler was 5'8" range!
Richard said on 2/Sep/17
Who do you think supplied the fuel used by the Germans in 1940-41?

Hitler was obviously 5'9".
Kev said on 1/Sep/17
Hitler and Stalin allied to invade Poland and other countries from September 1939. The Soviet Union supplied the fuel the Germans used in 1940-41.

Hitler was obviously taller than 5'8", but below 5'10".
MJKoP said on 1/Sep/17
"You may be interested: Donald Trump"

S*** just got real!
Grey said on 30/Aug/17
@ James You made me laugh :D
James said on 30/Aug/17
Hitler NEVER wore lifts. That was his ally Stalin.
Doubtful said on 29/Aug/17

Mussolini with Chamberlain: Click Here
Hitler with Chamberlain: Click Here
Grey said on 29/Aug/17
How do you know Hitler didn't wear lifts? I can see, he's wearing lifts for some events- Rob agreed with that. In the pic with Mussolini Hitler clearly doesn't look 8 cm taller!
James said on 28/Aug/17
Hitler didn't wear lifts, that was Stalin. He is clearly 3 inches taller than Mussolini. The West basically went to war to help Stalin overrun half of Europe, beginning with eastern Poland in September 1939.
Grey said on 28/Aug/17

Contrary to what you seem to be claiming, Hitler looks no more than 173-174 cm compared to 169 cm Mussolini.

Here's the pic: Click Here

Additionaly in the pic you can clearly see some bulgings in Hitler's boots, which can indicate possible lifts and Hitler even shorter.
Pictures comparing Hitler with 167-168 cm Rommel: Click Here

If you are objective about Hitler's height you can't state he's 5ft9 tall. That's, to put it mildly, irrational.
Doubtful said on 27/Aug/17

Please stop spreading this Austrian Army hoax. I have searched through English and German literature, but I found no such statement.
MJKoP said on 26/Aug/17
Grey said on 24/Aug/17
I don't know why people want to make Hitler taller than his most likely height 173-174.

In light of recent events, I kinda have a hunch.
James said on 25/Aug/17
The height difference between Hitler and Mussolini shows he was clearly taller than 5'8".
Nik said on 25/Aug/17
@ Sandy Cowell @ Grey

His proportions don't look like that if a 5'9" guy, he gave a 5'8" look and this is what the Austrian Army had him as.

Sandy Cowell said on 25/Aug/17
@ Grey - Well said!
MJKoP said on 24/Aug/17
Five nine? More like Five NEIN!!!!!!!!!! j/k
Grey said on 24/Aug/17
In my opinion Hitler used lifs for special events. Personally I don't see him as tall as legit 5ft9 in his prime. He never appeared as tall as legit 175 cm. His German peers were on average 167 cm tall. In that case Hitler would be 8 cm taller than the average height. That's like 188cm tall young bloke today in Germany- such a guy appear much taller among his peers than Hitler did among his peers.

As I said, it's very possible that Hitler's a lift wearer. He's very conscious about his presence. Another lifer was Himmler in my opinion. GΓΆring wasn't that type of a man, he didn't care about such a thing, and that's the only reason I can assume GΓΆring as 175-176 cm tall. To be honest, I think it wasn't an accident Hitler being measured at 173 cm by the Austrian Army.

I don't know why people want to make Hitler taller than his most likely height 173-174.
Nik said on 24/Aug/17
@ Grey

Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Aug/17
I'll just add to my previous post that I'm saying 5'9" in his prime, but by the last few years of the war with his health deteriorating rapidly with Parkinson's and coronary sclerosis, there's a good chance he would have lost at least 1 cm.
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Aug/17
I compared Hitler to all the heights measured by the allies and on average, I'd say Hitler looked a good 176 compared to them. The Goring comparison is an example of this since to the best of my knowledge, Goring was supposedly 5'10", but I'll have to look into that more when I have a chance. Of course, this is without knowing if they were barefoot measurements, but Hitler himself was specifically recorded by his doctor as having measured 5'9" in socks. I see no reason to doubt this or the accuracy of the measurement, but I will concede I don't know how long Hitler had been awake. Had it been not long after rising, then he would be closer to 173-174 range. I didn't use the term "morning height" because Hitler did not keep normal hours. I'll eventually look through the other information published on Hitler's medical records and Morrell's diary to see what the specific metric figure was said to be. Until some sort of further information, I can believe 5'9", though. This is about as good of a full side by side pic as we can expect from that period and Hitler looks only about 1 cm shorter than 5'10" Ribbentrop: Click Here On the other hand, here is another full photo where Ribbentrop looks at least 3 taller and has worse posture: Click Here As I've said in the past, I think Rob's 174 listing is probably the safest compromise short of new information or some additional validation of the information we have, though personally, I'm sticking to 5'9" for now.
Grey said on 23/Aug/17
@Rising-174 Hitler looks 173-174 cm.GΓΆring in comparison with Hitler looks shorter than Hitler or the same height as Hitler. But considering his weight and not the best posture I can give him extra 1-2 cm. So in conclusion GΓΆring was max 175-6 cm. So it's approx. 1 inch below what he stated-178 cm. It's more probable he's measured 5ft10 with shoes on and(or) in the morning, his height rounded up etc. Rob, do you mind creating a page for GΓΆring in the near future?
James said on 22/Aug/17
It's possible Goering's 1914 height measurement of 5'10" was when he was wearing shoes.
Sandy Cowell said on 21/Aug/17
@ Chris Kenya - 5ft8? I agree with you there! πŸ‘πŸπŸ»
Rising - 174 cm said on 20/Aug/17
@Grey: If Hitler's height is in question then using him as a reference to determine Göring's height is flawed. I agree on the height difference, but that's because I believe Hitler was 5'9" and Göring more like 5'10". I'll check David Irving's Göring bio when I have a chance. He mentions Göring's exact weights(which fluctuated wildly) in his Nuremberg book so there's a good chance he had access to his medical records as well.
MrFish said on 20/Aug/17
Rob, would you say that it's likely that he was my height?
Editor Rob: it's arguable, he certainly would - in his 30's - look similar range in a photo I feel.
Chris Kenya said on 19/Aug/17
Hitler was 5.8 I agree
James said on 14/Aug/17
Mussolini was 5'6.5" so Hitler was easily 5'10".
Grey said on 6/Aug/17
Haven't look at them, although Chamberlain doesn't seem taller than 6ft
Doubtful said on 5/Aug/17

What do you think about the height of Neville Chamberlain and Prince Charles?
Nik said on 5/Aug/17
@ Grey

Spot on!

Grey said on 4/Aug/17
Your statements fall into range of speculations.Hitler was 173-174, and that's a fact. He looks that tall. Goering looks 174-175 maximum if we compare him to Hitler. That's all.
Doubtful said on 4/Aug/17

That's speculation. Is there at least one indication?
Nik said on 4/Aug/17
@ Doubtful

I agree with Grey.
Doubtful said on 3/Aug/17

The GΓΆring data is from the U.S. Army, a national institution, and is therefore reliable. If they faked his height, they would have made him shorter, not taller.

The height of diplomat Franz von Sonnleithner is mentioned in his memoirs on page 83.
Grey said on 3/Aug/17
Doubtful, Hitler was 173-174, Goering 174-175 cm at most
Nik said on 2/Aug/17
@ Doubtful

But how do you know the other people are as tall as they are claimed to be?
Doubtful said on 1/Aug/17

The fact that GΓΆring was measured to be 1.78 m tall. Click Here
The fact that there is a photo showing Hitler and a 1.76 m tall diplomat shaking each other's hands. Click Here
The fact that Morell estimated Hitler's height to be ca. 1.76 m. Click Here
The fact that the allegedly 1.88 m tall Neville Chamberlain was about as tall as Hitler. (No, I don't claim that Hitler stood 1.88 m. ;-) I want to emphasize the reason why we think that Chamberlain was taller. It's because he had a slimmer build.)
James said on 1/Aug/17
He gained weight during Operation Citadel.
Nik said on 1/Aug/17
@ Doubtful

And the facts are...?
Slim 182 cm said on 31/Jul/17
Spot on listing tbh but I'm not sure about the weight, he looked like a Skinny-fat guy. Maybe 69 kg.
Slim 182 cm said on 29/Jul/17
Perfect listing imo, may be a quarter inch around, but no more.
Doubtful said on 28/Jul/17

You give him a flat 5'8" because you don't rely on facts.
Nik said on 27/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell - Hi!

When is it voting time for:

🐝! And 🐀! ?

I am going to give him a flat 5'8"!
MJKoP said on 23/Jul/17
You're right, Rob...I guess it's just hard to accurately gauge someone's credibility when they lie about other, much more important things. He could've been a flat 5'9er", but I'd go more with a fraction under, perhaps 5'8.8" :D

Okay, on an even lighter note, here's a pretty popular meme that was being spread around. Some people just need a little more in their lives. :)

Click Here
Editor Rob: I think Hitler had a far greater chance of hitting 5ft 8 than Jolie!
Doubtful said on 23/Jul/17
Here is a photo of Hitler shaking hands with a diplomat: Click Here. The diplomat was 176 cm tall: Click Here. We see Hitler standing with poor posture. So, he was a bit taller than the diplomat. He had poor posture since the lost battle of Stalingrad, and it got worse after the 20 July plot, and perhaps he had parkinson, which causes poor posture.
Doubtful said on 23/Jul/17
@MJKoP Hitler was never measured by the SS. There was no need for it because he was no SS member.

@Sam L We falsely assume that Neville Chamberlain was taller than Hitler because Chamberlain had a slimmer build (ectomorph).
MJKoP said on 22/Jul/17
Okay, to retract my snarkiness, I'll go on the record by saying David Irving is one of the worst excuses for a human being out there - a hardcore Holocaust denier and vicious Nazi sympathizer. I'd take literally nothing he said about anything AT ALL at face value. I don't know if you did your research, Rob, but you should have...wasn't Hitler also measured at a flat 5'8" by the SS? That's the most I'd give him, and with no blinding biases. Here was a guy who wanted everyone to look like Dolph Lundgren, but the only similarities(at least superficially) was part of the first name. If he could, he probably would've dyed his hair blond as soon as he could, but didn't because it was already too late, and he knew how it would come across. Remember, when he made these horrific aspirations that he ultimately was able to almost realize, he didn't have much of a clue that Mein Kampf would be seen by millions. All of the compared heights to warrant the upgrade to 5'8.5 are via comparison to confirmed NAZIS, an organization proven to push every bit of propaganda they could to further a sinister agenda. Whether Hitler was 5'8" 5'8.5" or 5'9", you can bet would and DID employ every trick at their disposal to make their leader appear as strapping and formidable as possible. I'd take Hitler's lowest official measurement to be the very maximum he could be, all things considered.
Editor Rob: Yes, I am aware of Irving.

But I don't think his mention of Hitler's height is a lie, unlike some of the stuff he has written about.

Other author's have mentioned Hitler's physicals.

For instance, the historian Len Deighton wrote "Hitler's medical reports show him to be without any important physical or psychological handicaps. In 1939, at 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighing 155 pounds..."

Would the Doctor's lie about height and weight in 1939, I don't could certainly argue that he measured 5ft 9 in shoes.
MJKoP said on 22/Jul/17
Just a friendly remind, Rob: David Irving may not be the go-to guy for quotes if you're actively in pursuit of the utmost level of credibility. :-/
James said on 21/Jul/17
He was clearly taller than Field Marshal von Rundstedt.

It is hilarious how after the war Rundstedt tried to blame Hitler for the Halt Order at Dunkirk, when it was actually issued by Rundstedt himself.
Nik said on 20/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell

How tall do you think Adolf is?

ok said on 19/Jul/17
What is his "modern" height?
Sandy Cowell said on 19/Jul/17
@ Nik! Yes, I couldn't have put it better myself! πŸ‘πŸ˜„
Neither could he! 🐝
Nor she! 🐦
Nik said on 18/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell- Hi!

I agree with you, it's best not to bother if this is the only "man" available! He was probably around the 5'8" mark!
James said on 18/Jul/17
However if Hitler was actually 5'10" then Goring was easily 5'10" as well.
Sandy Cowell said on 18/Jul/17
If this is what nature offers women who are looking out for a 'man', I'd rather not bother! There are plenty of prime specimens of phyton, earthworms or Adders Black that would turn my head sooner than this one, 5ft8 or not!
Slim 182 cm said on 17/Jul/17
This man was a Strong 5'8.
James said on 17/Jul/17
Chamberlain was 70 when the UK and France declared war.
Sam L said on 16/Jul/17
I have just seen a picture of Hitler standing next the Chamberlain. They appear to be of similar height, yet Chamberlain is listed on google as 1.88m.That listing is laughable.
Grey said on 16/Jul/17
Accept it, GΓΆring was at most 5ft9 guy. James, he may also br measured in boots, get rounded up and so on.
James said on 16/Jul/17
Goring might not have been measured as 5'10" in 1914. Perhaps he just gave the air force that height?
Doubtful said on 16/Jul/17
We can check if Hitler's height was or was near to 1.78 m (his doctor Morell estimated 1.76 m) by placing a photo of him next to a photo of Prince Charles, who measures c. 5'10" and has a similar physique.
Doubtful said on 15/Jul/17

The Museum of World War II in Natick, MA, is in possession of these detention reports. You may ask them about the reliability of the height data. I don't see where the problem is to accept that GΓΆring was 1.78 m tall.
Grey said on 14/Jul/17
We don't estimate Goering's height by his corpulence, only by comparing his height in comparison to others like Hitler and Hitler vs. Ribentrop. It's clear that Goering wasn't 5ft10 barefoot.
Doubtful said on 13/Jul/17
Kaltenbrunner was the tallest top Nazi defendant, then came Speer and Keitel, who had about the same height. In this document, you can see which physical characteristics of each defendant were recorded by the US Army: Click Here. They had the equipment to measure height. Don't let yourself be misguided by GΓΆring's corpulence. Hindenburg and Hanfstaengl, who were giants, would look shorter than a beanpole of a shorter height if we looked at solo photos.
Tunman said on 13/Jul/17
Is it possible that the 3 most powerful men in Nazi Germany were 174?Hitler and Himmler looked virtually the same for sure.Goering from these pics looks shorter than Hitler but the camera is favouring Hitler most of the time.I would have thought he could push looking slightly taller in 2 of them but wears boots against shoes for Hitler,in other pics he seems absolutely the same when in same boots.174 is very possible yet I'm not ruling out something near 5'9 for Goering when he was young (before getting fat and becoming addicted to drugs).
Also what about these guys:Ribbentrop looks every bit of 5'10 very comfortably taller than Hitler and Heydrich nowhere near 6'3 at the very best 6'1.5 if you consider he's slightly further from the camera
Click Here in another site someone mentioned he was only 185hmmm.There was a pic of Himmler and Heydrich in the Right Academy in 1936 with Hans Frank but couldn't find it.I would have thought 6'1-1.5" max for him and maybe 5'8.5"max for Frank.Would be interesting if someone manages to find it
Robby said on 12/Jul/17
James, the first photo is the one where Goering seems no shorter than Hitler (and it's one of the few, if not the only one), although Goering's boots seem thicker here. Nevertheless, if you take into account 5ft10 Ribbentrop photos vs. Hitler, it's sure Goering wasn't 5ft10. I would be very shocked if he'd hit 5ft10 barefoot!
James said on 12/Jul/17
Goring looks taller than Hitler in that photograph.
Grey said on 12/Jul/17
And here are some pictures of legit 178 cm Ribbentrop with Hitler.

Click Here

What do you think, Rob Paul? What's the GΓΆring's height?
Editor Rob: 5ft 10 for Goring seems too high.
Grey said on 11/Jul/17
GΓΆring wasn't 5ft10 guy, the question is was he 5ft8 or maybe 9 Hitler edges him all the time. Some examples Click Here
James said on 10/Jul/17
Field Marshal Keitel probably was 6'1" when he joined the army. He was an old man by the end of World War II so he could have lost an inch or so.
Tunman said on 9/Jul/17
Rob,if Goering is 5'9 does this mean that the accused in Nuremberg are also an inch shorter?Because they had their mugshots at the same time.
Some were surprisingly tall like Keitel at 185 or Frank at 176 but Rosenberg at 180 or Ribbentrop at 178 seem honest.Maybe they took heights from personal papers rather than measuring?It could explain many things.
Editor Rob: well it's Goering's claim, whether he really was 5ft 10 barefoot is another matter.
Nik said on 7/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Hi Sandy!

OK, thanks for that!

Sandy Cowell said on 7/Jul/17
@ Nik - Hi Nik!
I'll pop you over to Rob's page because today's news isn't about Hitler really. In fact, it isn't about him at all. Not one iota, in fact!
See you there, then! πŸ¦πŸπŸ‘
James said on 7/Jul/17
The biography I read of Goering said he was measured as being 5'10" when he was 21. It is possible this could be an exaggeration. If Goering had led the Third Reich the Germans would have seized Gibraltar after the Fall of France and focused on the Mediterranean.
RisingForce said on 6/Jul/17
Goering was apparently measured one 178 cm and if that's the case, Hitler looked 176, but if Hitler was only 174 then Goering would have been no more than 176.
Grey said on 6/Jul/17
James, Goering just didn't look as tall as 5ft10. I guess he was measured in thick boots and his height was round up to 5ft10. He's outheighted all the time by Hitler and Himmler (1.74 m). I know his posture wasn't proper, but legit 1.78 m wouldn't be outheighted by 1.74 m guys.
Nik said on 6/Jul/17
Hi Sandy!

I take it was voting time for you, it was for me too. I am writing this as Emmerdale is on! I give Mr *ler a one inch rise from last time, was it deserved or not? That's for everyone to make their own mind up with!
I like Twitty's name! It won't take much pencil lead to draw that *a****ic moustache,would it? It looks like Twitty and Jaffa will be double trouble on this page!

James said on 6/Jul/17
Goering was 5'10" during World War I.
Sandy Cowell said on 6/Jul/17
@ Nik - Hi! Jaffa 🐝 has a new best friend called Twitty! This is Twitty - 🐦! They meet up at the library, where Jaffa reads 20th Century history and Twitty enjoys her nature books as she is learning to draw animals!
She said to Jaffa when she saw Hitler's picture, "I don't think he'd make a very pretty picture!" Jaffa replied "Oh, really! But he's about 5ft8.5 inches tall, so he'd need a lot of paper!"
Now Jaffa is teaching Twitty how to draw items smaller than they actually are! His chosen subject is Adolf Hitler, and will be entitled 'Uncle Ardolf'! 🐝 πŸ’• 🐦
even said on 5/Jul/17
he was 5 foot 8 inches to 5 foot 8.5 inches tall .
Grey said on 5/Jul/17
Rob,can you estimate GΓΆring height? Because I see him personally as 5ft8-9 guy
Editor Rob: 5ft 9 for Goring might be ok.
Nik said on 26/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Sandy Cowell said on 26/Jun/17
@ Grrreat! πŸ‘ 🍺🐝 😊
Nik said on 25/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell

No problem!

Sandy Cowell said on 25/Jun/17
@ Nik - Thanks Nik! πŸ˜€πŸΊπŸ
Nik said on 24/Jun/17
@ Madam

How tall are you please?
Sandy Cowell said on 24/Jun/17
...not that I was implying for one minute that you were glamorising him or had any intentions of doing so, James!
Nik said on 24/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell

That's a point well put from you.

I have my main comment ready for you in 2 parts! It's been sent!

Sandy Cowell said on 24/Jun/17
@ James - I don't believe in glamorising them either. I do see where you're coming from with the height thing, James, but I'm only larking about and throwing a bit of historical fact in with it.
James said on 24/Jun/17
Several other people on this site murdered untold people, like Stalin and Churchill. We must separate the person's actions from their height.
Sandy Cowell said on 24/Jun/17
@ Madam - Hi! My Mum and Grandmother came from Hamburg (Hamburg 1 to be precise) and her brother lived in Cologne, where he worked at Cologne University for many years - not as a tutor! My Mum was the brainy one! She also had a sister who died of cancer when she was still relatively young.
Have an enjoyable weekend break, Madam! β›ΊπŸ“ΊπŸ“€πŸ΅πŸ¦β›²

PS My Mum used to call
me 'Madam' sometimes!
🌹 πŸ‘©πŸ‘§ 🌹
Nik said on 23/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell

No problem mate!

Madam said on 23/Jun/17

I'm a German from Berlin.
Sandy Cowell said on 23/Jun/17
@ James - I have humanitarian values and I don't like people like Hitler who murdered untold people. If that leaves you crying into your cocoa, I can live with that.

@ Nik - Thanks mate! I would have missed James's gripe had I not seen your comment! I only returned onto this page to see if my reply to Madam had come up!
Nik said on 23/Jun/17
@ James

Sandy has never done anything like this at all. It's ridiculous for you to say such things.
Hans Meiser said on 23/Jun/17
Not short at all. Average for men born in 1889 would be around 172cm, so he was above average.
Sandy Cowell said on 23/Jun/17
@ Madam - Thank you for taking the trouble to reply.
You'll have to forgive my disliking of the genocidal maniac. I wasn't in any way implying that you were giving out false information. Your Dad had quite a claim to fame then! He would never have had to be afraid of Hitler because it wouldn't have been very advantageous to the fΓΌhrer, would it? Ha ha ha! He would have ended up with some pretty ropy suits if he hadn't been on his best and politest behaviour in front of your Dad!
My Mum was German and used to see Hitler when she was a little girl, before the war, as her school was nearby, if not bang next door to where he was based. Also, her Dad was Austrian, and a very rich diamond merchant. He might even have been half Jewish, or all Jewish, so he wouldn't have faired very well if he had still been around when the war got going.
Are you German, Madam? I assume you probably are!
Cheers, and it has been interesting writing to you! πŸ‘
James said on 23/Jun/17
Sandy Cowell should be blocked for trolling.
RisingForce said on 23/Jun/17
James, there were and still are loads of myths about Hitler. Most people's perception is basically a caricature. I don't think the short myth is that widespread with Hitler, but I think more the fact that being this commanding presence, he wasn't a large or physically impressive man is part of where it started. Also, for hated figures, people tend to try at times to lump every perceived negative attribute or shortcoming onto them.
Madam said on 22/Jun/17

Yes, Hitler took his shoes off. It was important to him to have custom-made suits, therefore everything had to be prepared exactly.
Hijopotamus said on 22/Jun/17
Madam, you are saying Adolf was 180ish with regular shoes?
James said on 21/Jun/17
I wonder if the myth about Hitler supposedly being short was due to Lord Halifax being 6'5"?

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