How tall is Adolf Hitler

Adolf Hitler's Height

5ft 8.5in (174 cm)

Infamous Austrian German leader. He was supposedly measured at 173cm for a physical by the Austrian Army, although In a book by David Irving "The War Path", he mentioned that "As seen by his doctors in 1939, Adolf Hitler stood 5 foot 9 inches in his socks and weighed about 155 pounds."

How tall is Adolf Hitler
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Average Guess (90 Votes)
5ft 8.51in (174cm)
Luke said on 10/Oct/17
Well,lost the bet , my friend was closer , than what I though! Thank-you & good nite.
Bobby said on 26/Sep/17
Google lists him at 175cm, I wonder if Hitler was 5'9 in his 20s or something and lost a fraction by his 50s, especially since he was riddled with problems, such as Parkinson's but I don't know if that can affect a person's height or not.
Nik said on 11/Sep/17
@ Sandy Cowell - Hey!

Guess what I missed as well three days ago? Thankfully there are repeats of it like you said.
Yes, a girl couldn't ask for more than what Jaffa brings to the table, and I don't just mean his honey!
Who knows, we may even revise our estimates on Adolf's height after seeing the programmes!

You have a great week too Sandy!
Sandy Cowell said on 11/Sep/17
@ Nik - Absolutely! The reason I suggested that the dudes who visit this page watch the 'Supernatural Nazi' series of programmes was because it would appeal to their historical interest. I do hope some visitors got something from the programme. What I saw was very informative and the footage of Hitler and others was amazing.
If I come across any more interesting programmes I will let the people who take an interest in this historical period know as soon as I find out about them. It might be worth mentioning that they show war programmes on the 'Yesterday' Channel ever so often. If we can't come to some reasonable conclusion as to Hitler's height soon, I'll be most surprised!
And no more messing about from me!
Apart from 🐝, and that's because he is a seriously nice fellow who loves history! πŸ“š
And takes canaries to bed!
Especially this one - 🐦(Twitty!)
Sandy Cowell said on 10/Sep/17
@ Nik - Hey! Guess what I missed yesterday?
Would you believe it? I had been waiting for it all week as well! Ah well, I can always catch it Wednesday night/Thursday morning when it is repeated. Until then, I'm sure Jaffa will fill me in! 🐝He's such a wonderful young bumble bee! I have yet to meet one with such impeccable manners πŸπŸ’¨ and so much joie de vivre in general! AND he is interested in history! What more can a girl ask for?
The only trouble is, the Police are beginning to suspect him of leading the local canaries 🐀πŸ₯🐦 astray! They knocked at my door last week, (NOT the canaries!) asking if I knew someone fitting his πŸπŸ‘”πŸ‘–πŸ’ΌπŸ’°description. Of course, I denied ever mixing with his kind!

Have a great week Nik!

James said on 10/Sep/17
Just to clarify, lack of oil was the main reason Hitler invaded the Soviet Union in 1941. Obviously he wanted to invade anyway for other reasons, but the oil crisis was why he launched Barbarossa while the war with the UK was still ongoing.
James said on 9/Sep/17
If Hitler had worn lifts someone like Speer would have mentioned it after the war.
Nik said on 9/Sep/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Yes,I will be watching out for people to compare him to and for images of him being stood up straight! Maybe the programme would be a good watch for all people who frequent this page, and for 🐝! amd 🐦! of course!
anon176 said on 9/Sep/17
Yeah it was oil hahaha
Sandy Cowell said on 8/Sep/17
@ Nik - I have to agree that a programme has to be paused at the relevent parts as and when necessary in order to take in someone's height as thoroughly as possible! πŸ‘Œ
Good luck with that!
James said on 7/Sep/17
War between Germany and the Soviet Union was clearly inevitable, and in any case Hitler needed more oil to continue the war against the British Empire. Delaying Barbarossa would have given Stalin more time to rearm and modernise the Red Army.

I do think there is probably a tendency to portray Hitler as short simply because he was an evil dictator.
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Sep/17
I'm inclined to agree with James/Richard. I don't see any proof or any real reason to believe Hitler wore lifts. 5'9" in socks at age 50 sounds plausible to me. I do believe the stories of Stalin wearing them, though because specifics are included and there are so many different reports of Stalin's insecurity about his height. I don't think Hitler was that bothered with his height or had much reason to be either. I think in the absence of some solid evidence of lifts, the 1939 measurement adds up quite well with most of the reference heights we know.

The truth about the Soviets was buried and obscured for so long. It took 3 decades for the general public to know The Allies made a deal to repatriate Soviet POWs. This is such a heinous crime because under decrees like Stalin's Order. 270, all captured Soviet soldiers were considered traitors and typically shot, or at best(or worst?), sent to the Gulag or Lubyanka to die a slower death. This was not unknown by the Allies either. I won't get into all of the enormous blunders(or treason in some cases considering the State Department in those years) such as not taking Berlin, but it's incredible how much even that Molotov-Ribbentrop pact even got overlooked. Many also don't seem aware that Stalin wasn't much more fond of Jews than Hitler was.
Nik said on 6/Sep/17
@ Sandy Cowell

I most certainly will watch it! I think the programme on Saturday will have to be recorded, and when I watch the recording you will not be surprised to know that the pause button will be pressed a lot in order to take in Hitler's height!

Sandy Cowell said on 5/Sep/17
I am with Nik, Grey and
🐝Jaffa🐝: Hitler was 5ft8 or thereabouts.

There is a very interesting programme called 'Supernatural Nazis' on Channel 5 on Saturday evening at 8 o'clock. The third and final one will be this Saturday, but you can catch the repeat of the second one on Wednesday at 3.10 in the morning, inconvenient I know, but you can always set your recorders! There are many opportunities to see him on the programme, which contains a great deal of good quality footage! πŸ˜‰
Kev said on 3/Sep/17
Mussolini could have been wearing lifts in that photograph. Hitler was still easily 2.5 inches taller than his Italian ally.
Nik said on 3/Sep/17
I am with Grey. Hitler was 5'8" range!
Richard said on 2/Sep/17
Who do you think supplied the fuel used by the Germans in 1940-41?

Hitler was obviously 5'9".
Kev said on 1/Sep/17
Hitler and Stalin allied to invade Poland and other countries from September 1939. The Soviet Union supplied the fuel the Germans used in 1940-41.

Hitler was obviously taller than 5'8", but below 5'10".
MJKoP said on 1/Sep/17
"You may be interested: Donald Trump"

S*** just got real!
Grey said on 30/Aug/17
@ James You made me laugh :D
James said on 30/Aug/17
Hitler NEVER wore lifts. That was his ally Stalin.
Doubtful said on 29/Aug/17

Mussolini with Chamberlain: Click Here
Hitler with Chamberlain: Click Here
Grey said on 29/Aug/17
How do you know Hitler didn't wear lifts? I can see, he's wearing lifts for some events- Rob agreed with that. In the pic with Mussolini Hitler clearly doesn't look 8 cm taller!
James said on 28/Aug/17
Hitler didn't wear lifts, that was Stalin. He is clearly 3 inches taller than Mussolini. The West basically went to war to help Stalin overrun half of Europe, beginning with eastern Poland in September 1939.
Grey said on 28/Aug/17

Contrary to what you seem to be claiming, Hitler looks no more than 173-174 cm compared to 169 cm Mussolini.

Here's the pic: Click Here

Additionaly in the pic you can clearly see some bulgings in Hitler's boots, which can indicate possible lifts and Hitler even shorter.
Pictures comparing Hitler with 167-168 cm Rommel: Click Here

If you are objective about Hitler's height you can't state he's 5ft9 tall. That's, to put it mildly, irrational.
Doubtful said on 27/Aug/17

Please stop spreading this Austrian Army hoax. I have searched through English and German literature, but I found no such statement.
MJKoP said on 26/Aug/17
Grey said on 24/Aug/17
I don't know why people want to make Hitler taller than his most likely height 173-174.

In light of recent events, I kinda have a hunch.
James said on 25/Aug/17
The height difference between Hitler and Mussolini shows he was clearly taller than 5'8".
Nik said on 25/Aug/17
@ Sandy Cowell @ Grey

His proportions don't look like that if a 5'9" guy, he gave a 5'8" look and this is what the Austrian Army had him as.

Sandy Cowell said on 25/Aug/17
@ Grey - Well said!
MJKoP said on 24/Aug/17
Five nine? More like Five NEIN!!!!!!!!!! j/k
Grey said on 24/Aug/17
In my opinion Hitler used lifs for special events. Personally I don't see him as tall as legit 5ft9 in his prime. He never appeared as tall as legit 175 cm. His German peers were on average 167 cm tall. In that case Hitler would be 8 cm taller than the average height. That's like 188cm tall young bloke today in Germany- such a guy appear much taller among his peers than Hitler did among his peers.

As I said, it's very possible that Hitler's a lift wearer. He's very conscious about his presence. Another lifer was Himmler in my opinion. GΓΆring wasn't that type of a man, he didn't care about such a thing, and that's the only reason I can assume GΓΆring as 175-176 cm tall. To be honest, I think it wasn't an accident Hitler being measured at 173 cm by the Austrian Army.

I don't know why people want to make Hitler taller than his most likely height 173-174.
Nik said on 24/Aug/17
@ Grey

Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Aug/17
I'll just add to my previous post that I'm saying 5'9" in his prime, but by the last few years of the war with his health deteriorating rapidly with Parkinson's and coronary sclerosis, there's a good chance he would have lost at least 1 cm.
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Aug/17
I compared Hitler to all the heights measured by the allies and on average, I'd say Hitler looked a good 176 compared to them. The Goring comparison is an example of this since to the best of my knowledge, Goring was supposedly 5'10", but I'll have to look into that more when I have a chance. Of course, this is without knowing if they were barefoot measurements, but Hitler himself was specifically recorded by his doctor as having measured 5'9" in socks. I see no reason to doubt this or the accuracy of the measurement, but I will concede I don't know how long Hitler had been awake. Had it been not long after rising, then he would be closer to 173-174 range. I didn't use the term "morning height" because Hitler did not keep normal hours. I'll eventually look through the other information published on Hitler's medical records and Morrell's diary to see what the specific metric figure was said to be. Until some sort of further information, I can believe 5'9", though. This is about as good of a full side by side pic as we can expect from that period and Hitler looks only about 1 cm shorter than 5'10" Ribbentrop: Click Here On the other hand, here is another full photo where Ribbentrop looks at least 3 taller and has worse posture: Click Here As I've said in the past, I think Rob's 174 listing is probably the safest compromise short of new information or some additional validation of the information we have, though personally, I'm sticking to 5'9" for now.
Grey said on 23/Aug/17
@Rising-174 Hitler looks 173-174 cm.GΓΆring in comparison with Hitler looks shorter than Hitler or the same height as Hitler. But considering his weight and not the best posture I can give him extra 1-2 cm. So in conclusion GΓΆring was max 175-6 cm. So it's approx. 1 inch below what he stated-178 cm. It's more probable he's measured 5ft10 with shoes on and(or) in the morning, his height rounded up etc. Rob, do you mind creating a page for GΓΆring in the near future?
James said on 22/Aug/17
It's possible Goering's 1914 height measurement of 5'10" was when he was wearing shoes.
Sandy Cowell said on 21/Aug/17
@ Chris Kenya - 5ft8? I agree with you there! πŸ‘πŸπŸ»
Rising - 174 cm said on 20/Aug/17
@Grey: If Hitler's height is in question then using him as a reference to determine Göring's height is flawed. I agree on the height difference, but that's because I believe Hitler was 5'9" and Göring more like 5'10". I'll check David Irving's Göring bio when I have a chance. He mentions Göring's exact weights(which fluctuated wildly) in his Nuremberg book so there's a good chance he had access to his medical records as well.
MrFish said on 20/Aug/17
Rob, would you say that it's likely that he was my height?
Editor Rob: it's arguable, he certainly would - in his 30's - look similar range in a photo I feel.
Chris Kenya said on 19/Aug/17
Hitler was 5.8 I agree
The Master said on 15/Aug/17
He was 5'10".
James said on 14/Aug/17
Mussolini was 5'6.5" so Hitler was easily 5'10".
Grey said on 6/Aug/17
Haven't look at them, although Chamberlain doesn't seem taller than 6ft
Doubtful said on 5/Aug/17

What do you think about the height of Neville Chamberlain and Prince Charles?
Nik said on 5/Aug/17
@ Grey

Spot on!

Grey said on 4/Aug/17
Your statements fall into range of speculations.Hitler was 173-174, and that's a fact. He looks that tall. Goering looks 174-175 maximum if we compare him to Hitler. That's all.
Doubtful said on 4/Aug/17

That's speculation. Is there at least one indication?
Nik said on 4/Aug/17
@ Doubtful

I agree with Grey.
Doubtful said on 3/Aug/17

The GΓΆring data is from the U.S. Army, a national institution, and is therefore reliable. If they faked his height, they would have made him shorter, not taller.

The height of diplomat Franz von Sonnleithner is mentioned in his memoirs on page 83.
Grey said on 3/Aug/17
Doubtful, Hitler was 173-174, Goering 174-175 cm at most
Nik said on 2/Aug/17
@ Doubtful

But how do you know the other people are as tall as they are claimed to be?
Doubtful said on 1/Aug/17

The fact that GΓΆring was measured to be 1.78 m tall. Click Here
The fact that there is a photo showing Hitler and a 1.76 m tall diplomat shaking each other's hands. Click Here
The fact that Morell estimated Hitler's height to be ca. 1.76 m. Click Here
The fact that the allegedly 1.88 m tall Neville Chamberlain was about as tall as Hitler. (No, I don't claim that Hitler stood 1.88 m. ;-) I want to emphasize the reason why we think that Chamberlain was taller. It's because he had a slimmer build.)
James said on 1/Aug/17
He gained weight during Operation Citadel.
Nik said on 1/Aug/17
@ Doubtful

And the facts are...?
Slim 182 cm said on 31/Jul/17
Spot on listing tbh but I'm not sure about the weight, he looked like a Skinny-fat guy. Maybe 69 kg.
Slim 182 cm said on 29/Jul/17
Perfect listing imo, may be a quarter inch around, but no more.
Doubtful said on 28/Jul/17

You give him a flat 5'8" because you don't rely on facts.
Nik said on 27/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell - Hi!

When is it voting time for:

🐝! And 🐀! ?

I am going to give him a flat 5'8"!
MJKoP said on 23/Jul/17
You're right, Rob...I guess it's just hard to accurately gauge someone's credibility when they lie about other, much more important things. He could've been a flat 5'9er", but I'd go more with a fraction under, perhaps 5'8.8" :D

Okay, on an even lighter note, here's a pretty popular meme that was being spread around. Some people just need a little more in their lives. :)

Click Here
Editor Rob: I think Hitler had a far greater chance of hitting 5ft 8 than Jolie!
Doubtful said on 23/Jul/17
Here is a photo of Hitler shaking hands with a diplomat: Click Here. The diplomat was 176 cm tall: Click Here. We see Hitler standing with poor posture. So, he was a bit taller than the diplomat. He had poor posture since the lost battle of Stalingrad, and it got worse after the 20 July plot, and perhaps he had parkinson, which causes poor posture.
Doubtful said on 23/Jul/17
@MJKoP Hitler was never measured by the SS. There was no need for it because he was no SS member.

@Sam L We falsely assume that Neville Chamberlain was taller than Hitler because Chamberlain had a slimmer build (ectomorph).
MJKoP said on 22/Jul/17
Okay, to retract my snarkiness, I'll go on the record by saying David Irving is one of the worst excuses for a human being out there - a hardcore Holocaust denier and vicious Nazi sympathizer. I'd take literally nothing he said about anything AT ALL at face value. I don't know if you did your research, Rob, but you should have...wasn't Hitler also measured at a flat 5'8" by the SS? That's the most I'd give him, and with no blinding biases. Here was a guy who wanted everyone to look like Dolph Lundgren, but the only similarities(at least superficially) was part of the first name. If he could, he probably would've dyed his hair blond as soon as he could, but didn't because it was already too late, and he knew how it would come across. Remember, when he made these horrific aspirations that he ultimately was able to almost realize, he didn't have much of a clue that Mein Kampf would be seen by millions. All of the compared heights to warrant the upgrade to 5'8.5 are via comparison to confirmed NAZIS, an organization proven to push every bit of propaganda they could to further a sinister agenda. Whether Hitler was 5'8" 5'8.5" or 5'9", you can bet would and DID employ every trick at their disposal to make their leader appear as strapping and formidable as possible. I'd take Hitler's lowest official measurement to be the very maximum he could be, all things considered.
Editor Rob: Yes, I am aware of Irving.

But I don't think his mention of Hitler's height is a lie, unlike some of the stuff he has written about.

Other author's have mentioned Hitler's physicals.

For instance, the historian Len Deighton wrote "Hitler's medical reports show him to be without any important physical or psychological handicaps. In 1939, at 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighing 155 pounds..."

Would the Doctor's lie about height and weight in 1939, I don't could certainly argue that he measured 5ft 9 in shoes.
MJKoP said on 22/Jul/17
Just a friendly remind, Rob: David Irving may not be the go-to guy for quotes if you're actively in pursuit of the utmost level of credibility. :-/
James said on 21/Jul/17
He was clearly taller than Field Marshal von Rundstedt.

It is hilarious how after the war Rundstedt tried to blame Hitler for the Halt Order at Dunkirk, when it was actually issued by Rundstedt himself.
Nik said on 20/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell

How tall do you think Adolf is?

ok said on 19/Jul/17
What is his "modern" height?
Sandy Cowell said on 19/Jul/17
@ Nik! Yes, I couldn't have put it better myself! πŸ‘πŸ˜„
Neither could he! 🐝
Nor she! 🐦
Nik said on 18/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell- Hi!

I agree with you, it's best not to bother if this is the only "man" available! He was probably around the 5'8" mark!
James said on 18/Jul/17
However if Hitler was actually 5'10" then Goring was easily 5'10" as well.
Sandy Cowell said on 18/Jul/17
If this is what nature offers women who are looking out for a 'man', I'd rather not bother! There are plenty of prime specimens of phyton, earthworms or Adders Black that would turn my head sooner than this one, 5ft8 or not!
Slim 182 cm said on 17/Jul/17
This man was a Strong 5'8.
James said on 17/Jul/17
Chamberlain was 70 when the UK and France declared war.
Sam L said on 16/Jul/17
I have just seen a picture of Hitler standing next the Chamberlain. They appear to be of similar height, yet Chamberlain is listed on google as 1.88m.That listing is laughable.
Grey said on 16/Jul/17
Accept it, GΓΆring was at most 5ft9 guy. James, he may also br measured in boots, get rounded up and so on.
James said on 16/Jul/17
Goring might not have been measured as 5'10" in 1914. Perhaps he just gave the air force that height?
Doubtful said on 16/Jul/17
We can check if Hitler's height was or was near to 1.78 m (his doctor Morell estimated 1.76 m) by placing a photo of him next to a photo of Prince Charles, who measures c. 5'10" and has a similar physique.
Doubtful said on 15/Jul/17

The Museum of World War II in Natick, MA, is in possession of these detention reports. You may ask them about the reliability of the height data. I don't see where the problem is to accept that GΓΆring was 1.78 m tall.
Grey said on 14/Jul/17
We don't estimate Goering's height by his corpulence, only by comparing his height in comparison to others like Hitler and Hitler vs. Ribentrop. It's clear that Goering wasn't 5ft10 barefoot.
Doubtful said on 13/Jul/17
Kaltenbrunner was the tallest top Nazi defendant, then came Speer and Keitel, who had about the same height. In this document, you can see which physical characteristics of each defendant were recorded by the US Army: Click Here. They had the equipment to measure height. Don't let yourself be misguided by GΓΆring's corpulence. Hindenburg and Hanfstaengl, who were giants, would look shorter than a beanpole of a shorter height if we looked at solo photos.
Tunman said on 13/Jul/17
Is it possible that the 3 most powerful men in Nazi Germany were 174?Hitler and Himmler looked virtually the same for sure.Goering from these pics looks shorter than Hitler but the camera is favouring Hitler most of the time.I would have thought he could push looking slightly taller in 2 of them but wears boots against shoes for Hitler,in other pics he seems absolutely the same when in same boots.174 is very possible yet I'm not ruling out something near 5'9 for Goering when he was young (before getting fat and becoming addicted to drugs).
Also what about these guys:Ribbentrop looks every bit of 5'10 very comfortably taller than Hitler and Heydrich nowhere near 6'3 at the very best 6'1.5 if you consider he's slightly further from the camera
Click Here in another site someone mentioned he was only 185hmmm.There was a pic of Himmler and Heydrich in the Right Academy in 1936 with Hans Frank but couldn't find it.I would have thought 6'1-1.5" max for him and maybe 5'8.5"max for Frank.Would be interesting if someone manages to find it
Robby said on 12/Jul/17
James, the first photo is the one where Goering seems no shorter than Hitler (and it's one of the few, if not the only one), although Goering's boots seem thicker here. Nevertheless, if you take into account 5ft10 Ribbentrop photos vs. Hitler, it's sure Goering wasn't 5ft10. I would be very shocked if he'd hit 5ft10 barefoot!
James said on 12/Jul/17
Goring looks taller than Hitler in that photograph.
Grey said on 12/Jul/17
And here are some pictures of legit 178 cm Ribbentrop with Hitler.

Click Here

What do you think, Rob Paul? What's the GΓΆring's height?
Editor Rob: 5ft 10 for Goring seems too high.
Grey said on 11/Jul/17
GΓΆring wasn't 5ft10 guy, the question is was he 5ft8 or maybe 9 Hitler edges him all the time. Some examples Click Here
James said on 10/Jul/17
Field Marshal Keitel probably was 6'1" when he joined the army. He was an old man by the end of World War II so he could have lost an inch or so.
Tunman said on 9/Jul/17
Rob,if Goering is 5'9 does this mean that the accused in Nuremberg are also an inch shorter?Because they had their mugshots at the same time.
Some were surprisingly tall like Keitel at 185 or Frank at 176 but Rosenberg at 180 or Ribbentrop at 178 seem honest.Maybe they took heights from personal papers rather than measuring?It could explain many things.
Editor Rob: well it's Goering's claim, whether he really was 5ft 10 barefoot is another matter.
Nik said on 7/Jul/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Hi Sandy!

OK, thanks for that!

Sandy Cowell said on 7/Jul/17
@ Nik - Hi Nik!
I'll pop you over to Rob's page because today's news isn't about Hitler really. In fact, it isn't about him at all. Not one iota, in fact!
See you there, then! πŸ¦πŸπŸ‘
James said on 7/Jul/17
The biography I read of Goering said he was measured as being 5'10" when he was 21. It is possible this could be an exaggeration. If Goering had led the Third Reich the Germans would have seized Gibraltar after the Fall of France and focused on the Mediterranean.
RisingForce said on 6/Jul/17
Goering was apparently measured one 178 cm and if that's the case, Hitler looked 176, but if Hitler was only 174 then Goering would have been no more than 176.
Grey said on 6/Jul/17
James, Goering just didn't look as tall as 5ft10. I guess he was measured in thick boots and his height was round up to 5ft10. He's outheighted all the time by Hitler and Himmler (1.74 m). I know his posture wasn't proper, but legit 1.78 m wouldn't be outheighted by 1.74 m guys.
Nik said on 6/Jul/17
Hi Sandy!

I take it was voting time for you, it was for me too. I am writing this as Emmerdale is on! I give Mr *ler a one inch rise from last time, was it deserved or not? That's for everyone to make their own mind up with!
I like Twitty's name! It won't take much pencil lead to draw that *a****ic moustache,would it? It looks like Twitty and Jaffa will be double trouble on this page!

James said on 6/Jul/17
Goering was 5'10" during World War I.
Sandy Cowell said on 6/Jul/17
@ Nik - Hi! Jaffa 🐝 has a new best friend called Twitty! This is Twitty - 🐦! They meet up at the library, where Jaffa reads 20th Century history and Twitty enjoys her nature books as she is learning to draw animals!
She said to Jaffa when she saw Hitler's picture, "I don't think he'd make a very pretty picture!" Jaffa replied "Oh, really! But he's about 5ft8.5 inches tall, so he'd need a lot of paper!"
Now Jaffa is teaching Twitty how to draw items smaller than they actually are! His chosen subject is Adolf Hitler, and will be entitled 'Uncle Ardolf'! 🐝 πŸ’• 🐦
even said on 5/Jul/17
he was 5 foot 8 inches to 5 foot 8.5 inches tall .
Grey said on 5/Jul/17
Rob,can you estimate GΓΆring height? Because I see him personally as 5ft8-9 guy
Editor Rob: 5ft 9 for Goring might be ok.
Nik said on 26/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Sandy Cowell said on 26/Jun/17
@ Grrreat! πŸ‘ 🍺🐝 😊
Nik said on 25/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell

No problem!

Sandy Cowell said on 25/Jun/17
@ Nik - Thanks Nik! πŸ˜€πŸΊπŸ
Nik said on 24/Jun/17
@ Madam

How tall are you please?
Sandy Cowell said on 24/Jun/17
...not that I was implying for one minute that you were glamorising him or had any intentions of doing so, James!
Nik said on 24/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell

That's a point well put from you.

I have my main comment ready for you in 2 parts! It's been sent!

Sandy Cowell said on 24/Jun/17
@ James - I don't believe in glamorising them either. I do see where you're coming from with the height thing, James, but I'm only larking about and throwing a bit of historical fact in with it.
James said on 24/Jun/17
Several other people on this site murdered untold people, like Stalin and Churchill. We must separate the person's actions from their height.
Sandy Cowell said on 24/Jun/17
@ Madam - Hi! My Mum and Grandmother came from Hamburg (Hamburg 1 to be precise) and her brother lived in Cologne, where he worked at Cologne University for many years - not as a tutor! My Mum was the brainy one! She also had a sister who died of cancer when she was still relatively young.
Have an enjoyable weekend break, Madam! β›ΊπŸ“ΊπŸ“€πŸ΅πŸ¦β›²

PS My Mum used to call
me 'Madam' sometimes!
🌹 πŸ‘©πŸ‘§ 🌹
Nik said on 23/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell

No problem mate!

Madam said on 23/Jun/17

I'm a German from Berlin.
Sandy Cowell said on 23/Jun/17
@ James - I have humanitarian values and I don't like people like Hitler who murdered untold people. If that leaves you crying into your cocoa, I can live with that.

@ Nik - Thanks mate! I would have missed James's gripe had I not seen your comment! I only returned onto this page to see if my reply to Madam had come up!
Nik said on 23/Jun/17
@ James

Sandy has never done anything like this at all. It's ridiculous for you to say such things.
Hans Meiser said on 23/Jun/17
Not short at all. Average for men born in 1889 would be around 172cm, so he was above average.
Sandy Cowell said on 23/Jun/17
@ Madam - Thank you for taking the trouble to reply.
You'll have to forgive my disliking of the genocidal maniac. I wasn't in any way implying that you were giving out false information. Your Dad had quite a claim to fame then! He would never have had to be afraid of Hitler because it wouldn't have been very advantageous to the fΓΌhrer, would it? Ha ha ha! He would have ended up with some pretty ropy suits if he hadn't been on his best and politest behaviour in front of your Dad!
My Mum was German and used to see Hitler when she was a little girl, before the war, as her school was nearby, if not bang next door to where he was based. Also, her Dad was Austrian, and a very rich diamond merchant. He might even have been half Jewish, or all Jewish, so he wouldn't have faired very well if he had still been around when the war got going.
Are you German, Madam? I assume you probably are!
Cheers, and it has been interesting writing to you! πŸ‘
James said on 23/Jun/17
Sandy Cowell should be blocked for trolling.
RisingForce said on 23/Jun/17
James, there were and still are loads of myths about Hitler. Most people's perception is basically a caricature. I don't think the short myth is that widespread with Hitler, but I think more the fact that being this commanding presence, he wasn't a large or physically impressive man is part of where it started. Also, for hated figures, people tend to try at times to lump every perceived negative attribute or shortcoming onto them.
Madam said on 22/Jun/17

Yes, Hitler took his shoes off. It was important to him to have custom-made suits, therefore everything had to be prepared exactly.
Hijopotamus said on 22/Jun/17
Madam, you are saying Adolf was 180ish with regular shoes?
James said on 21/Jun/17
I wonder if the myth about Hitler supposedly being short was due to Lord Halifax being 6'5"?
Sandy Cowell said on 19/Jun/17
Anyway, Madam, that is a very interesting thing to read! Did he ever talk to you about him and did Hitler really blow off as much as he's reputed to have done? Did Dad ever measure him up while he emitted some noxious gasses?
Do tell!
Sandy Cowell said on 19/Jun/17
I doubt if the fΓΌhrer will have been expected to remove his shoes to be measured up for a suit! My Mum worked in Saville Row, London, and they didn't do it there!
Madam said on 18/Jun/17
The fact is that Hitler's height has not been known to the public until now. Hitler stood 177 and 0.6 centimeters, as has been told to me by my father, who made suits for him.
Rick said on 17/Jun/17
Nik said on 14/Jun/17
What the hell made my iipad type out competition complexions, scrap the word competition and the sentence is correct!
I will probably be back when it's time for voting again!
Nik said on 14/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Ok, I willl do Sandy!

Sandy Cowell said on 14/Jun/17
@ Nik - See you on Rob's page! This is not related to the fΓΌhrer!
Nik said on 13/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell - Hi'

No, but I have been really short changing him! I won't lose any sleep over it though.

My Mum, eldest brother, and myself have brown hair and brown eyes!

I too thought that far more German's had fair competition complexions than darker complexions!
James said on 13/Jun/17
Hitler was above average height. It is a myth that he wanted people to be tall, blond and blue-eyed.
Sandy Cowell said on 13/Jun/17
@ Nik - I wouldn't lose any sleep about short changing Hitler! At all. Ever! 🐝

@ Rita Scott - Hi! My Mum was a German and she said that there are as many brown-haired, brown-eyed German people as those with fair hair and blue eyes! She was dark herself. I saw plenty of pictures of the colouring of the kids in her class at school (all girls; I don't think mixed schools were common in Germany), and they were truly half and half!
My Mum, as a little kid, used to see Hitler as her school was situated next to where Hitler was festering about before the war. The years were anything from late 1929 and upwards. Kids started school at 7 then!
My Mum reckoned him to be 'about 5ft8', though that hardly rules out half-an-inch taller! She didn't like him even before the war! She said he was a seedy little man and would I kindly shut up asking questions about him!
Nik said on 12/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell

Oh I see! I can see why he avoids it then!

I have been worse than you to be honest Sandy, i think that I had better give him a higher vote next time!
Rita Scott said on 10/Jun/17
Why were the top Nazi's short, dark haired $ unattractive? Why were there not the tall, blue eyed blond Aryan specimens Hitler said were the REAL Germans, not in command?
Sandy Cowell said on 10/Jun/17
@ Nik - He says people object to his buzzing noise and try to spray him! πŸ©πŸπŸ“

@ Rob - OK! Enough nonsense for the time being! Jaffa will be back in a couple of months with another historical instalment.
Nik said on 10/Jun/17
@ Rob

Nik said on 10/Jun/17
@ Sandy Cowell

I cast my vote on this page on Thursday too, not the only vote that I cast recently!
Jaffa should have had a lift back to the library! Why didn't he use the library toilet?

Editor Rob: I have to be the Editor here and keep the page on topic as it quickly can get off track.

I did once read a description of Hitler, from a 1943 magazine: "Height 5'8', Weight 170 pounds. Sallow complexion, blue eyes, brown hair, bristly moustache, lunatic expression."

I think that's quite descriptive...
Sandy Cowell said on 8/Jun/17
The bumbly bumble bee is on a toilet paper economy drive, and is just coming out of the local public lavatory. Ah! He's arrived 🍺🐝 so it's over to you Jaffa!
"Hi folks! Don't I look great today? πŸπŸŽ©πŸ‘” I've saved up enough money on loo paper by using the public lav 🐝🚽 that I have been able to buy a brand new history book on 20th Century War History! 🐝 Of course Hitler's in it, and according to the book and my painstaking research, he was a little over 5ft8 on a good day! Don't forget, friends, he was also fighting in the First 🐝World War, where he might have been taller, but being a vegetarian, his diet may well have been lacking in protein, though my bumble bee relatives have assured me that he was extremely fond of beans and pulses, judging from the sound effects emanating from his trouser region! πŸ™‰πŸ‘–πŸ’¨ 🐝
Bye bye! See you again in a few weeks!"
So the happy and slightly inebriated bumble bee put on his hat and coat to do some honey-gathering, before going straight back to his local library - via the public convenience, of course!

🌷🐝 🌺🐝 🌻🐝 🌸🐝 🌹🐝 πŸ‘πŸ˜—
John said on 3/Jun/17
I think he is supposedly to stand at 5ft 8.4in 173.7cm
RisingForce said on 24/May/17
British commentators led to the perception that Napoleon was a dwarf so it could be similar with Hitler. I still think Hitler was likely measured 5'9" in socks and can easily look it with the measured heights I posted below, but 174 cm is a fair compromise with all the uncertainty for such an old figure. But I've never read too much about Hitler's height coming up in the primary sources with his inner circle. Though his inner circle did tell him his fashion (i.e., mustache, postman's camp, leather boots) should be updated, though Hitler, of course didn't listen. Hitler's health was not good towards the end of the war either. It's been said Hitler had Parkinson's or perhaps something else serious and probably wouldn't have lived too much longer regardless. Back in 1939 when he's supposed to have measured 5'9", he was said to be in good health, so maybe Hitler shrunk closer to 5'8".
Doubtful said on 24/May/17
This photo shows Hitler with 4th grade classmates. He is one of the tallest. (Okay, he might have stood on a chair.)
Click Here

Hitler in WW1. Again one of the tallest.
Click Here

Himmler was 5'9" (Click Here), one inch shorter than Hitler.
Grey said on 13/May/17
And about Goering height, I think he was more 5ft9 than 5ft10, maybe they measured him with boots and in the morning? I know he has loose posture, but anyway, he doesn't look 178 cm for me. What do you think, Rob?
Grey said on 13/May/17
Rob, any idea why people call him not even short but also midget? Being 174 cm German borned in 1889 (average height for 18 years old German borned in 1896 was 167.2cm) makes him look like today 185 cm guy? lol?
Editor Rob: to ridicule?

It's interesting looking at old propaganda from both sides in WW2...

as for his height, you have to leave your feelings at the door when looking at the heights of famous people, regardless of how great or evil they were.

From 62 guesses his average is 5ft 8.5, so I would say people have been quite objective in guessing.

If it was mostly subjective you'd probably see a 5ft 6.5-7 average guess.
prasad said on 13/May/17
same height as me 174 cms
lasla said on 13/May/17
hitler with 174cm listed himmler

Click Here

Click Here

Click Here

Rob, how tall do you think that himmler was? if hitler was 174cm, himmler would be 175/176cm but he was listed at 174cm.
Editor Rob: you could probably find an equal amount of Himmler seeming a bit taller, both roughly similar, and Hitler taller, like Here.

Both probably were reasonably close, I still wouldn't rule out the idea of Hitler wearing lifts at times.
Marshall F. said on 8/May/17
Rob, can you try to get a pic w/ him next time? All his photos seem out dated.

Editor Rob: Marshall, I will, if I can get hold of a blasted IBM 5100 series computer...
Sandy Cowell said on 30/Apr/17
"Hello again!" said the bumble bee. "Have you missed me? Here's my owner's new estimate!" 🐝
Then the bumble bee put his hat and coat on to vanish for another few weeks!
Doubtful said on 23/Apr/17
Hitler actors ranked in ascending order from smallest to tallest:

1. Charlie Chaplin
2. David Bamber: 5'7", acc. to Click Here
2. Robert Carlyle: 5'7", acc. to Click Here
2. Bruno Ganz: 170 cm (5'7"), acc. to Click Here
3. Alec Guinness
4. Oliver Masucci: 188 cm (6'2"), self-report during interview
Nik said on 23/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell

Hi Sandy, I didn't know that you could vote for the same person more than once, I thought that Rob had changed it so that you could only have one vote per celebrity/famous person, (or infamous person in Hitlers case!) thanks for telling me that. Of course it is likely that he wore lifts, right from being very young when he was embarking on his "so called" career he would have wanted to have appeared as tall as he possibly could in order to portray a more macho image, and lie you said because he was an admirer of the tall. There is nothing wrong with men being small, they are no worse than tall men in any way, but that will not have been Hitlers mind set! If Hitler was a 5'6.5" lift wearing guy then I would not be surprised in the slightest. Do you remember those Meerkat adverts Sandy?
Sandy Cowell said on 22/Apr/17
@ Nik - Every few weeks, the voting box reappears, giving us the opportunity to vote for the same person again if we have changed our minds about his or her height! It is something I have picked up on since coming to the site! That is why I tend now to write down in my comments how much someone is! Then in a few weeks, if I have changed my mind, I can vote again.
Yes, I think the likelihood of Hitler wearing lifts is high! If they were around in his day, of course he'll have worn them as he was an admirer of the tall! Simples!
Nik said on 21/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell

I don't know if you have noticed but Mr Hitler has been relegated from having the16th most popular page to the 20th most popular page! I found this out in the last week when I navigated his page via the "Top 50 Celebs" page. When you said you could vote for him again, do you mean his height? How does it work? I thought you could only guess it once. Maybe you too are open minded to the possibility that Adolf wore lifts!
Sandy Cowell said on 20/Apr/17
@ Nik - Yes, never mind! In a few weeks time I can vote for him again though and this time....well, use your imagination! Poop! 🐝
Nik said on 17/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell

I know it's a shame that we have had our knuckles rapped a bit! But never mind'
Doubtful said on 16/Apr/17
@Editor Rob

Well, Paul Merton was not referring to Hitler, but to Charlie Chaplin in the role of Hitler. By the way, almost all Hitler actors were too small. Alec Guinness had the right height.
Editor Rob: do you mean to tell me that this portrayal by Chaplin wasn't the truth!

that Adolf cared less about his height and wasn't vain in the slightest!

I am glad the topic is back to height...πŸ‘

I've never looked at all the actors who have played Hitler in Movies, TV or film, but it would be interesting who was the tallest actor or shortest to play him.
Sandy Cowell said on 16/Apr/17
@ Rob - Thanks, and thank you also for mentioning my messages regarding Trump. πŸ‘

@ Nik - C'est la vie! Yes, it's a shame and I enjoyed reading and writing about flatulent dogs on Hitler's page, but all good things come to an end! 😭
Nik said on 16/Apr/17

Ok I understand.

@Sandy Cowell

Yes good old Paul Merton!
Nik said on 16/Apr/17

That would not make him self conscious abiout his height though!
Puma said on 16/Apr/17
Upgrade to 174, Rob?I remember 173 that.
Editor Rob: I think the 174 mark is a real possibility.
Sandy Cowell said on 16/Apr/17
@ Rob - OK! I quite understand! πŸ‘
That's an interesting and amusing, not to mention very agreeable comment from Paul Merton!
Good old Paul Merton! πŸ‘
Editor Rob: I understand, and similarly regarding Trump...for readers, if they browse comments they want to see mostly height-related, the odd digression is forgiveable though.
James said on 16/Apr/17
"Little man" could just mean a petty man, obsessed with trivial issues.
Nik said on 16/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell

Yes I think I know which ones you were talking about, they were from the 11th April I think. I kept on adding symbol after symbol as incredibly I kept finding ones that you could derive apt words from! It's a shame the comments have been removed.
Sandy Cowell said on 16/Apr/17
@ Nik - You did! Our off-topic chats about dogs and others have been removed, as you can see, after being complained about!
Editor Rob: things can easily veer off-topic.

there is more give and take on the rob paul page.

back to Hitler, I read a quote a while ago from Paul Merton, saying "Adolf Hitler. a vain little man, terribly self-conscious about his height".
Albert said on 15/Apr/17
An acquaintance of mine has a suit worn by Hitler. I tried it on and it fitted. The sleeves were not too short. I'm 5'10.5" tall.
James said on 15/Apr/17
Rob, why don't you remove this off-topic posts?
Editor Rob: There's some leeway allowed at my discretion, but you are correct in that the page has gone off-topic, it's about Hitler's height.
Nik said on 15/Apr/17
@Sandy Cowell

Which emojis? Who sent them and what date are they from?
James said on 12/Apr/17
The idea that Hitler wanted the Germanic people to be tall, blond and blue-eyed is just another urban myth.

I don't think "carpet muncher" is appropriate.
Editor Rob: yes, I think trying to stay to topic of height as much as possible.
Doubtful said on 8/Apr/17

Hitler wasn't obsessed with height in the sense that he was worried about his height. But he admired tall people. 178 cm was the minimum height for a soldier of the "Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler".
Doubtful said on 8/Apr/17
It is variously recorded that Hitler developed a poor posture in 1943. He told his secretaries (among them Traudl Junge), "Eva wants me to keep my back straight." So from 1943 on, Goering's posture was not necessarily looser than Hitler's.
Sandy Cowell said on 8/Apr/17
@ Nik - I saw a programme about Hitler and how hell-bent he was about getting his own back for the First World War. He wasn't right in the head and had a power complex. Yes, I agree he is a good contender for the most evil human ever and should be on a programme entitled 'Most Evil', that's if he hasn't been already! He would score top marks!
PS 🐝
RisingForce said on 7/Apr/17
Tunman, yeah, there were other mini-Stalinists. That was a standard early on in the Soviet bloc, and guaranteed you a good shot at leadership. I think that Stalin's violence continues for his entire reign with most of it during a time of peace that astounds me so much, not that the war was any better with order no. 270 declaring all Soviet POWS as traitors. Pol Pot had Stalin's paranoia and certainly violence, but I think he was much less stable. Stalin may have been reprehensible, but was underestimated and really outmaneuvered all his rivals. Pol Pot's quick demise is proof of the difference. As a free market libertarian, I never condone any firm of totalitarianism, but objectively both Stalin and Hitler had talents that explain their meteoric ruses. Both had strong wills and Hitler's oratory skills cannot be underestimated. Back to height, I can agree with 175 cm. I'm operating on the assumption that those measurements were barefoot, if this is shown to be false, I'll probably amend my guess to 173-174 cm.
Nik said on 7/Apr/17
@Tunman @Sandy Cowell

I wouldn't rule the lifts out!

Most evil person ever?
Sandy Cowell said on 7/Apr/17
@ Tunman - Your comment is also very interesting, but doesn't it make you want to give him SUCH a kicking? Yes, it was sick how he was obsessed with a master race and considered so many good, hard working people to be sub-human, or 'untermensch'.
(I'll have to check the spelling of that awful word with my Dad).
Tunman said on 5/Apr/17
Actually both were unusual dictators but for different reasons:under Stalin no one was able to say where he would end the day,the process was under a single rule:Randomness,even for commies themselves.
Actually many communist leaders followed Stalin's pattern like Mao,Rakosi,Pol Pot and Kim il sung.No one was certain to be spared which made people living under a constant fear for their lives.Just think that Eastern dictators like Dimitrov,Ulbricht,Dej...were just smaller copies of Stalin perhaps with less sadistic tendancies.
Under Hitler as you said the vowed enemies were indeed the ones that expected to be persecuted which should make Hitler more predictable than Stalin from this side at least.Hitler's evil was to be shown much more during the war instead of "peacetime"(33-38) because his ideology was based on the superiority of "Aryans" and "aryan blood" hence the harsh rule was to be imposed not on the "superior german" but "inferior slavic people"or jews etc.
A rare example for Hitler's ideology was in Japan in 1930-45 (superior race,vital space for that race,extermination of so called subhumans).Hopefully his case was extremely rare.And unlike Stalin,the regimes of eastern Europe that were backed by the Nazis in early 40's were not aligning themselves for ideology but for another reason that coincided perfectly with far right ideology at that time:Irredentism.
Hope I made everything clear!
Back to height I know that Hitler wasn't that obsessed with height and I doubt he wore lifts.But keep in mind that he was perfectly aware of the importance of image, had techniques about voice,tone and gestures almost brought them to an art level.I think that cameramen worked in that sense which although not always probably often included height aspect.
I reckon he often looks 175 but that also depends whether guys at Nuremberg were measured barefeet?And whether he was at Landsberg.Again anything between 173 and 175 is arguable.If you look at some pics with 180 Rosenberg he could look anywhere in that 5'8-9 range.174 is still a good compromise.
Sandy Cowell said on 3/Apr/17
@ RisingForce - Your comment from 2nd April made for some very interesting reading! πŸ‘
RisingForce said on 2/Apr/17
Stalin was actually a lot more petty, sadistic and arbitary than Hitler and don't mistake this as an endorsement for Hitler or to say that Hitler couldn't be incredibly brutal like his statement to his secretary after the Night of Long Knives purge, military methods like Einsatzgruppen etc. but Hitler murdered his avowed enemies for the most part and was more detached from it leaving it to Himmler, Heydrich, Eichmann etc., mostly during a time of war, while Stalin obviously murdered opponents as well like so-called "Kulaks", but also murdered masses of loyal Communists including his inner circle through the Yezhovshchina/Great Purge. I've not heard Hitler was overly concerned with height to that point. As for with Goering, we'll posture is why Hitler looks about 177 cm there and I know he's not that tall, but the difference can't be more than an inch standing properly, imo. I see Hitler at least 175 cm in the 2 photos posted below with Ribbentrop as well. Either way, no photos are perfect, but full shots like this are about as good as we can expect, imo so I have to go with what he looks next to measured people. I believe the 5'9" in socks measurement in 1939, though I do remember Hitler looking a bit shorter compared to Mussolini. As for Stalin, I've heard he got lifts made in the early 30s and some who knew him like Bukharin said he had a height complex. This makes sense since Stalin was 165-166 cm max, imo if Churchill was 169 cm max and Tito 169-170 cm range.
Sandy Cowell said on 2/Apr/17
@ James - You're right about the 5ft8. That's what my Mum said he was (approx), and she used to see him on her way to school before the war got going. Children in Germany didn't start until they were 7 then, so this will have been 1929/30 onwards!
James said on 2/Apr/17
People lied about Hitler's height for propaganda reasons, the same way they did with Napoleon's height.
Tunman said on 1/Apr/17
175 is the max arguable since he was measured at that mark in prison.173 is the minimum.Virtually looked about the same as 174 Himmler but still shorter than Ribbentrop.I remember having thought there was 6cm difference between him and Mussolini.Again depends whether you think the latter is 167 or 169.5'8.25" or 173,5 still seems very reasonable.
Trust me Goering is one of least reliable guys to compare with due to very poor posture.I swear I always thought he was the same as Himmler tops
Plus Hitler was often, really often given camera advantage.I read enough on him and Stalin to tell you that anyone undermining them was exposed to death,cameramen were probably asked to put him on advantage.After all he was the Fuhrer...
A strong 5'8 is what he looks generally.
RisingForce said on 29/Mar/17
Based on the visual evidence then the only way Hitler wasn't 5'9" in socks is if all of those measurements such as Goering's 178 cm were in shoes and I know of no reason to suspect that.
Sandy Cowell said on 29/Mar/17
Sandy Cowell said on 28/Mar/17
😈 - 5ft8.25 of πŸ’©πŸ˜·
Ely said on 20/Mar/17
No way Hitler was 176..He was 173-174
RisingForce said on 19/Mar/17
Yeah, they do look similar, but I think Goering's posture is a bit looser. In any event, he does consistently look at least 176 cm compared to 5 measured heights so I can only estimate Hitler to have been 176 cm, or at least 175 cm.
Doubtful said on 12/Mar/17

In that picture, Goering appears taller than Hitler, but when I draw a line from Hitler's scalp to Goering's scalp there is no difference. Anyways, Goering (178 cm) might have been a bit taller than Hitler, just 1 or 2 cm. Anything from 176 to 178 cm is possible. Morell suggested 176 cm.
Orlando said on 11/Mar/17
Benito Mussolini was 1.67 m according to his police file in Forli, Italy (quoted by Jasper Ridley, "Mussolini, A Biography", 2000, page 35). Or 1.692 m, according his Swiss police file when he was arrested in Bern, 1903: Click Here
RisingForce said on 10/Mar/17
Doubtful, based on those measurements, Hitler does actually look a good 175-176 cm! With Goering: Click Here With Doenitz: Click Here With Rosenberg: Click Here Click Here With Keitel: Click Here
Sandy Cowell said on 10/Mar/17
πŸπŸ’¨ πŸπŸ’¨ πŸπŸ’©that's got it!
Sandy Cowell said on 5/Mar/17
Sandy Cowell said on 3/Mar/17
@ Nik - Yes, it would come very low down on my list of preferences!!! πŸ˜–πŸšΏ
Nik said on 3/Mar/17
@Sandy Cowell

Yeah a Personnel officer is not bad as a boss and neither is a Charity shop Manager, but an SS officer, the very worst boss to have.
Powerhouse said on 2/Mar/17
How tall was Benito Mussolini? Was he the reported 5'6.5?
Nik said on 1/Mar/17
I do not know how tall he was. I am of the opinion though that because he was a dictator he was more likely than most to have sneaked things into his shoes to make himself appear taller than what he was. Whether he did this or not I don't know.
Sandy Cowell said on 27/Feb/17
I still think Hitler was 5ft8 on the dot, but I've been through everybody's comments, so this time I shall give him a little rise because I have b🐝n
upsetting a few of you with my un-height-related comments! Sozz about that!

@ Nik - Yes, indeed! An SS Officer is never going to be the ideal boss!
Nik said on 25/Feb/17
@Sandy Cowell

Yes I am glad I have never had a boss like that.

@Editor Rob

Do you think he could have worn lifts to increase his height by a few inches?
Editor Rob: in a quote I mentioned a few weeks ago, there was some talk that he might have worn lifts...but such things are hard to ever prove.
Doubtful said on 24/Feb/17
I wonder why no one refers to the detention reports. These are official measurements. Did Hitler wear shoes that were two inches higher than Goering's? ;‑)

Goering (1.78 m)
Click Here

Frick (1.78 m)
Click Here

Doenitz (1.79 m)
Click Here

Rosenberg (1.80 m)
Click Here

Keitel (1.85 m)
Click Here
James said on 23/Feb/17
These irrelevant comments must be removed.
Editor Rob: yes, we must stick as much as possible to Hitler's height.
Sandy Cowell said on 23/Feb/17
@ Nik - You're right! My Mum absolutely loathed Himmler 😝, but she was still drafted in to work for the SS. People had no say in the matter! She was 20/21 when she stood up to an SS Officer saying, while pointing to his picture, "he's got the hands of a murderer!"
The officer said back, "be quiet! He's your boss!"
He was, my Mum described him, "very, very tall", unlike Hitler 😝 and Himmler 😝, who were it could be argued, slightly above average for their day.
My Mum also got into trouble for refusing to go to shooting practice, which was compulsory! When cornered about the matter, she was asked, "what would you do if the enemy was trying to shoot you?"
Her reply was, "if I was carrying a gun he'd shoot me. If I wasn't, I don't think he would! I am a woman and one day I will give life, not take
it away!"
He secretly respected her for that AND he fancied her and had tried it on, to no avail, but said, "you do realise I have to punish you, don't you?"
She was made to work night and day for weeks on end to wear her down physically and mentally. Then she got badly wounded in a bombing. She was hit by pieces of shrapnel in the back of her head, her leg and her back. She said that it stopped her from being worked into the ground.
So you could say that she wasn't too fond of Hitler 😝 or Himmler! 😝
Nik said on 22/Feb/17
@Sandy Cowell

No I had not read it to be honest Sandy before your posting. Yes it is clear what your Mum thought of him, you can be proud of the bravery that she showed in stranding up for what is right. I do not think she thought very much of Himmler (also about 5'8") either to be truthful,
Sandy Cowell said on 22/Feb/17
@ Nik - Oh yes! There would have been tears, tantrums, screaming and angry words - from my Mum alone!
I don't know whether you've read my first Hitler contribution (from November), but if you did, you'll know what my German Mum thought of the guy! She used to see him as he was based next to or very near to her Primary school! She didn't like him before the war, not to mention when it all got going!
Well, my Mum would have taken the Hitler-containing box of crackers back to the shop and kicked up a real to-do, demanding her money back and more! She was a stickler for what was right!
PS 🐝!
Doubtful said on 21/Feb/17

Some people think that he had a Napoleon complex. He certainly did not have a Napoleon complex.
Nik said on 21/Feb/17
@Sandy Cowell

I bet when you were a little girl you would have run out of the room crying if a Hitler doll had popped out of your Christmas Cracker!


Yes I fully agree with you. Why is it that some people in the western world call men, past and present midgets if they are under 5'10"?
Me said on 19/Feb/17
Why people make him a midget,while in real he was even taller then average in his times?
Doubtful said on 18/Feb/17
Irving's source was Morell.

Morell said: 70 kilograms
Irving translated: 155 pounds
Morell said: 176 centimetres
Irving translated: 5 foot 9 inches
RisingForce said on 15/Feb/17
Not to deviate from height too much, but I wouldn't believe everything you hear about the drug stuff. From what I remember, Morell gave virtually everything to Hitler in injections, but some of the stuff you now hear sounds a bit dubious and sensationalist to me.
Sandy Cowell said on 15/Feb/17
Very interesting Hijopotamas! That is lethal, horrid 'speed-like' stuff which makes the user anxious, paranoid and depressed. Hardly the sort of thing to be prescribed to someone with serious responsibilities. It really is outrageous how easily things like that were to get hold of and how little they knew about the consequences of taking it.
RisingForce said on 14/Feb/17
Funny enough, I'm also close to 5'8.5". As far as the measurement, I know Irving's books are edited a bit differently in terms of expressions for both English and American audience, so it's very possible he said 5'9" for an American audience and used the metric system for the British. This could imply either 174 cm rounded up, or possibly 175 cm, but we'll have to find out more. He can look both closer to 5'8" and 5'9" so this does seem the most logical listing until we get more information.
RisingForce said on 14/Feb/17
I don't know the details of Ribbentrop's measurement, although the 5'10" does look believable. If it was an accurate barefoot measurement then I do believe Hitler looks near 5'9" in comparison, of course he could still just as easily be 5'8.5". I can't measure people precisely in photos of course, though I personally see more of an inch rather than 2 inches. David Lloyd George actually looks closer to Hitler's height in those two photos than Mussolini does, but assuming those heights, I think Hitler looks closer to 5'8", albeit a strong 5'8" such as 5'8.25" with George and closer to a weak 5'9", say 5'8.75" with Mussolini.
Sandy Cowell said on 14/Feb/17
@ Nik - Nowhere near as 🐝disappointed as I'd have felt if a Hitler doll had popped out! 🍌🐝🐝
Though I would have cheered up immediately if I'd have known that many years later, it would have been used to completely 🐝obliterate the credibility of Hitler on his height page and fill it with utter nonsense! 🐝
MrFish said on 13/Feb/17
Rob, do you think that the 5ft 9in measurement may be a round-up of 174cm? I think that Germany would have used the metric system. I think that there is sufficient evidence that Hitler's height was near 5ft 8in, but I can't really see more than 5ft 8.5in (coincidentally my own height).
Editor Rob: as I mentioned, we don't know if he was listed in feet/inches or metric in his Doctor's report, Irving called it 5ft 9...

always possible it was rounded up, I think 174 is probably the best compromise, the general opinion from users is that he was probably a bit over a flat 5ft 8.
Hijopotamus said on 13/Feb/17
Doubtful, Morell was Hitler's personal drug dealer. Would you trust any of his reports?
Hitler became a drug addict after meeting Morell who first prescribed him metheanphetamine.
Rz said on 13/Feb/17
Solid 5'9

Hitler and Mussolini (169cm) side by side:
Click Here

Hitler and David Lloyd George (168cm) side by side:
Click Here
Nik said on 12/Feb/17
@Sandy Cowell

Yes I can imagine the disappointment you would feel as a little girl if a moustache popped out of your christmas cracker!
Doubtful said on 11/Feb/17
His height was estimated to be 176 centimetres by Theo Morell, his personal doctor. In my opinion, this estimate is still too low, but closer to reality than the fake 173 centrimetres.

Source: Click Here
Tunman said on 10/Feb/17
@RisingForce Ribbentrop was measured at 178 by the allies the second pic you posted was the one I meant few weeks ago,in the first he definitely seems closer to the camera.
Okay I thought the difference was rather 5cm Rob perhaps thinks it's more likely 4.Actually Ribbentrop's hair is receding so could be a little fooling...hmmm perhaps 173,5cm is still the best answer but yeah 5'8.5 174 is fine,a little over a flat 5'8.
James said on 9/Feb/17
Ribbentrop was listed as 6'1".
RisingForce said on 7/Feb/17
I agree, Rob. It's certainly possible. There is more on the medical records out there so perhaps we can find the answer more definitively. If Ribbentrop truly was 5'10" then Hitler can look around 5'9", imo. Click Here Click Here But for now, I'd split the difference and say 5'8.5" would be the most likely guess.
Editor Rob: 5ft 8.5 may well be a better mark for him...I doubt the medical note about his height was made up, the question was if there was a metric value or just feet/inches.
Sandy Cowell said on 6/Feb/17
@ Nik - Oh, those nasty, uncomfortable moustaches and big fake lips from the crackers! When I was a kid, I took my Christmas cracker toys very seriously indeed! I'd kick up a fuss if I ended up with something like that - a dreadful one with tantrums and tears! I wanted something girlie!
Mind you, those plastic moustaches look better than the one in question, which could pass for something that's been grown to disguise an extra large mole!
Nik said on 6/Feb/17
@Sandy Cowell

Yes I think I remember seeing a moustache in a Christmas Cracker before, a black one I think like those you associate with being worn by private detectives. I got a really small ten pin bowling set in a Cracker last Christmas, my Mum didn't want it!
RisingForce said on 5/Feb/17
Rob, I found a link to a PDF of the book Click Here Scroll to chapter titled "Fifty" and page 343 in the PDF.
Editor Rob: ok thanks for pointing it out, I'll add the quote.

The question is whether this is really accurate and if Adolf truly hit 5ft 9. It's not infeasible to believe.
Sandy Cowell said on 5/Feb/17
@ Nik - Too true Nik! I've found better ones in a Christmas Cracker!
RisingForce said on 3/Feb/17
Rob, here's the quote I was referring to from "The War Path."

"As seen by his doctors in 1939, Adolf Hitler stood 5 foot 9 inches in socks and weighed about 155 pounds."
Nik said on 3/Feb/17
No he's not got much of a moustache.
Sandy Cowell said on 1/Feb/17
Message received and understood! Splendid! πŸ—πŸ’©πŸ˜‚
Sandy Cowell said on 31/Jan/17
Well, well, well! I've wondered about that before! Now I know! Thanks Rob - excellent!
Editor Rob: you could always type s*** the next time, self censor if you like.
Sandy Cowell said on 31/Jan/17
Oh, this again! I said a different word! One beginning in 's' and ending in 't'!
Editor Rob:
I like to keep swearing to an absolute minimum, so that's the swear filter in action.
Sandy Cowell said on 31/Jan/17
What a bagoogle moustache!
RisingForce said on 30/Jan/17
Interesting about Hitler wearing lifts, Rob. I've never read that or even read that Hitler was bothered about his height. Then again, it's a near certainty that Stalin wore some sort of lifts or elevator shoes and we saw Kim Jong Il do it in recent years, so he wouldn't be the only dictator.
James said on 30/Jan/17
Ribbentrop was said to be 6'1".
Tunman said on 29/Jan/17
For those thinking he was 5'10 please google hitler with ribbentrop and lord londonderry he's a solid 2" shorter than ribbentrop.173 maybe 5'8.25 max,period.
RisingForce said on 28/Jan/17
I'll type out the quote verbatim with the page when I time to look through my books, Rob. It's a shame my book is an American edition since I'd imagine that Irving as an Englishman would have used the metric system in the English version.
MrFish said on 28/Jan/17
Rob, what's the tallest that you'd guess Hitler at?
Editor Rob: I can understand 5ft 8.5 guesses for him, that's certainly not impossible.

I'm still undecided about whether Adolf was a lift wearer. In history, propaganda can create all sorts of lies. But I certainly would think it a possibility...

Here is a quote from a book called Hitler's Ashes:

"The authors were surprised to learn that they could not find an official listing of Hitler's height in any of a large number of books about the Fuhrer. Approximately a dozen World War II historians were contacted, none of whom could furnish the desired information. One of these individuals, who had actually met Hitler, thought that he was very short but created an illusion of greater height by wearing elevator shoes and special caps with a very high peak. Others thought that Hitler was as tall as 5 feet, 11"
Doubtful said on 28/Jan/17
Frick (1.78 m acc. to U.S. Army), Hitler and Goering (1.78 m acc. to U.S. Army): Click Here . This link should work.
Hijopotamus said on 25/Jan/17
Also in the original photo Franco had his eyes closed and looks tiny compared to Adolf who had his eyes wide open as usual.
RisingForce said on 24/Jan/17
David Irving's book The War Path mentions him measuring 5'9" in socks in either 1938 or 1939 and also mentioned a specific weight of something like 158 pounds or possibly 162, I don't remember. But in any case, Irving had found Hitler's medical records in the 70's so it may be legitimate. I'd believe anything from 5'8" to 5'9" anyway.
Editor Rob: that's interesting if the 5ft 9 measurement is true, very!
Hijopotamus said on 24/Jan/17
Franco was 160 cm and very conscious about his looks.
That pic with Hitler was "photoshopped" so to make Franco look taller and one cross he was wearing was changed into another type of thing, cannot remember ....but theres a story about that pic and Franco being taller than in reality
lasla said on 23/Jan/17
Rob, do you think that hitler could grow to 175cm in morning?
Editor Rob: lasla, it depends on what you think he was afternoon, 173 or 174cm, but he would surely be near 175 even if he shrunk down to 173.
Doubtful said on 10/Jan/17
@Johnson Sorry, there is a copyright watermark on the image. Google it. You will see Frick, Hitler and Goering standing side by side. Goering appears smaller than Frick and Hitler because he doesn't stand upright.
Johnson said on 8/Jan/17
Upload the img to other source it does not work
Doubtful said on 8/Jan/17
@Johnson The link works again.
James said on 8/Jan/17
Franco was less than 5'4", like Canaris.
Doubtful said on 8/Jan/17
@Johnson I see. "Access is denied." Open and type in: getty images hitler frick goering. The first picture is the right one.
Johnson said on 7/Jan/17
@Doubtful I cannot see the pic
Doubtful said on 7/Jan/17
@Johnson Hitler's height should not be estimated upon Franco's height because we do not know Franco's actual height.

Use the data from the U.S. Army:

Rosenberg: 1.80 m
Doenitz: 1.79 m
Frick: 1.78 m
Goering: 1.78 m
Ribbentrop: 1.78 m

Here we have two (or probably three) 1.78 m people in one picture: Click Here .
MJKoP said on 7/Jan/17
James said on 5/Jan/17
He only wore ordinary shoes.

You knew him?
Johnson said on 6/Jan/17
@James Franco 163 officially. Why did you say 164? There are one pic of both shaking hands and Hitler looks 173-175 but far of 177 cm
Doubtful said on 6/Jan/17
1.78 m or 1.77 m are possible. It says here that 1.73 m was the measurement result by the Austrian Army. But is there any reliable source for this information? I think Goering's height is reliable.
James said on 5/Jan/17
He only wore ordinary shoes.
Hijopotamus said on 3/Jan/17
This guy slept on his military gear and boots so subtract an inch of what you are considering.
James said on 3/Jan/17
The historian was definitely right about Hitler being 5'10". ...
Editor Rob: as I said, let's stick to height, and as much as possible.

I would be shocked if Adolf measured 5ft 10.
James said on 3/Jan/17
I apologise to anyone from the United States who takes offence at criticism of Churchill, they may not realise just how hated he was in the UK.
Sandy Cowell said on 3/Jan/17
@ MJKoP 😝
MJKoP said on 2/Jan/17
MJKoP said on 1/Jan/17
Rob, are you really going to permit disgusting revisionist crap comments like the two on Christmas day?
Editor Rob: I'll take away the comparison comment, but the other? It's an opinion he looked 5ft 10.

Well, the "opinion" was based off of an excerpt from a book that appeared to be authored by a Pro-Nazi psychopath. I see you deleted the link to the highlighted passage, but I don't think any such biased information should be allowed as evidence. And I'm not concluding the guy was Pro-Nazi solely due to the 5'10" claim...I googled the man and many of his viewpoints are very questionable.
Editor Rob: when I clicked the link nothing showed up from the book, it was an empty page, so it was a useless link.
Although it would have been interesting to see what the passage said surrounding this 5ft 10 belief.
MJKoP said on 1/Jan/17
Rob, are you really going to permit disgusting revisionist crap comments like the two on Christmas day?
Editor Rob: I'll take away the comparison comment, but the other? It's an opinion he looked 5ft 10.
Guest said on 25/Dec/16
Please change it. Hitler was approximately 5 feet 10 inches tall (178 cm) tall.

Please also look at pictures of Hitler standing next to Goering. He was about as tall as Goering whose height was 178 cm according to the Nuremberg detention report.

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