How tall was Elvis Presley

Elvis Presley's Height

5ft 11 ¾ (182.2 cm)

American Singer best remembered for songs such as "Suspicious Minds", "Love Me Tender", "Jailhouse Rock", "Can't Help Falling in Love", "Viva Las Vegas", "Heartbreak Hotel" and "In The Ghetto" and as an actor in films like Jailhouse Rock, Love Me Tender, King Creole, Blue Hawaii, Wild in the Country, Viva Las Vegas, Fun in Acapulco and Girls! Girls! Girls!
An Army medical suggested he was 6ft 1/2 inch, although site visitor Ramiro got hold of Elvis' army medicals and he is mostly listed 6ft, with one 5ft 11 listing - See Here. A costume designer who worked with him said "[his] Chest was 42, waist was 30, 5ft 11.5, shoe size 9". He also once claimed "Six-One and a half", although on a couple of occasions when asked he claimed an "even six foot".
On his driver's license at age 17 he was listed 5ft 11 and 153 pounds, then subsequently in his 20's 6ft and 170 lbs. In a 1970 firearm application he was listed at 6ft 1 and 160 pounds.

How tall is Elvis Presley
Elvis in Jailhouse Rock
I'm six feet tall and I weigh 195 pounds and I've gained about 20 pounds in the last year.
-- 1956 letter to fan club

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Average Guess (153 Votes)
5ft 11.54in (181.7cm)
Jtm said on 12/Jan/21
Hard to believe that slim 6’1 thinks he would been around same height as Russell Crowe and shorter than brad Pitt.
berta said on 11/Jan/21
he was measured 184 in boots. there is a photo of it somehewere on this site. the boots gave him probably 3 cm maybe 3,5 but lets say 3. that means that he was 181 cm tall. he could have been 182 but i dont think the boots only gave 2 cm and he could have been brad pitts height of 180,5 if they gave 3,5. i think almost 181 is best guess. i have never had any boots that given less than 2,5-3 cm.
slim 6'1 said on 11/Jan/21
Not 181-182 more 179-180
Rising174cm said on 8/Jan/21
Between his 6'0.5" measurement in boots, the 5'11.5" figure from the costume designer and the one 5'11" in his medical records, I'd say 5'11.5" max or somewhere around 181 cm range. There wasn't much more than 2" between Elvis and Charles Bronson in Kid Galahad and Bronson was not only not above 5'9", but also wearing flat boxing shoes.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 8/Jan/21
Elvis Presley was born 86 years ago to the day. With the exception of a few tracks, I was never a massive fan of his music, but I read all about him in the extensive newspaper coverage after he died and reckoned I'd have liked to know him. He sounded full of fun, but the sad truth of the matter is that his drug use had spiralled out of control, messing with his behaviour. 😌

His music played an enormous part in the foundations of Rock 'n' Roll. 🤗

5ft11.75. 🎶🎧🎵

RIP Elvis 🕯️ XX
slim 6'1 said on 7/Jan/21
179cm definitely not 6’ 👍
Bill 6'1.75" said on 27/Dec/20
Just saw Elvis, aged 21 and at his physical and height peek, in his first movie, “Love Me Tender” (1956), where he is third billed. The star of this movie is Richard Egan who is reported on IMDb and else where to be 6’. Elvis is clearly at least an 1” if not 2” shorter than Egan, and that’s giving Elvis credit for the extra height he gets from his mop of hair.
Slim 6'1" said on 20/Sep/20
181-182cm out of bed
Slim 6'1" said on 20/Sep/20
Overlisted 179-180cm
Hulk.23 said on 28/Aug/20
I think Elvis looked anything between 5’11 and 6’ but with the most chances he was 5’11.5/181,5cm...taller than a flat 5’11 but visibly shorter than a legit 6 footer. I bet if he would have meet an honest 5’11 like Ralph Fiennes and an honest 6 footer like Hayden Christensen the. He will be for sure perfectly in the middle between them.
Rich Paul said on 7/Aug/20
There seems to be a plethora of people posting who met or knew famous celebrities. I tend to believe 90% of it is BS. I think Elvis was a strong 5-11. But to look taller than all the male actors he appeared with in later features he wore built-up shoes. But early on he didn’t so that’s the best time period to judge his actual height.
-LORD- said on 6/Aug/20
There are people who met Elvis eye-to-eye at the movie set and gas stations who claimed with all the money they had that Elvis was no more than 5'9" 1/2 - 5'10" with the maximum being 5'10" 1/2. That is a bold statement against someone (like Elvis) who is considered nothing less than 5'11" and over.
Rich Paul said on 31/Jul/20
I watched a Steve Allen program Elvis appeared on. Allen was reportedly 6’3’’. Elvis looked four to five inches shorter. He was no more than 5’11’’. In his later movies he wore boots with large heels and they were probably built up to give him at least two more inches in height.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 21/Jul/20
Ok, I think Vernon looked maybe an inch taller than Elvis but was in his 60’s so might lost a 6ft2 peak, 6ft1 range at the end. Elvis’s mother looked above average, maybe close to 5ft7

How’s that sound, Rob?
Editor Rob
For a peak, Vernon may well have measured nearer 6ft 2 than 1
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 15/Jul/20
Small frame doesn’t mean short at can be 6ft5 and small framed
No name no fame said on 9/Jul/20
5'11.5" at 181.5 cm
gio pizzi said on 24/Apr/20
My guess would be Elvis was 5'11.25 he reached 6'1 because he wore boots with higher heels,which was not uncommon in the 1970's, If I remember correctly higher heeled shoes was the style for that decade.
Hah said on 1/Mar/20
@kap his bone frame is small doesn't mean he's short. Many people has long leg and small bone frame are tall
kap said on 20/Feb/20
Elvis clothes and other paraphernalia of his time was on display at the State Fair of Texas some years back. His clothes were too small for 6". He was maybe 5'9".
Beau Dare said on 14/Feb/20
I once worked with a wardrobe lady at NBC Burbank Studios, in Los Angeles in early 2000, and had an interesting talk with her about Elvis. She had just seen a rerun of the TV series, "Sledge Hammer" where I once played Elvis as an actor. We then chatted about Elvis, and she said she had once been in charge of Elvis's wardrobe on his "1968 TV special", and was quite taken by his modesty and concern for others. She also mentioned he was 6'0" even and weighed 170 lbs, and was rather easy to fit. She then said she was rather nervous as she was new at her job, but Elvis went out of his way to put her at ease and make her feel comfortable.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 8/Jan/20
Elvis would have turned 85 today.

Imagine having so much money that you can afford to throw a champagne bottle through a TV set whenever you don't like something on the TV? That was Elvis alright! If I was that rich, I'd hurl a bottle through my TV every time certain stupid adverts are on!


I always thought the guy was 6ft, having read it many times during my life. As it would have been his Birthday today, that's exactly what he gets!

Ian C. said on 2/Jan/20
Determining Elvis's height is complicated by the variable shapes of his hair. The young Elvis had a pompadour that was at least two inches higher than his scalp; it's as if he had been wearing a shako. So how exactly do we consider hair in assigning anyone's height? Hair is organic material, and intrinsic to the bodies of the people from which it grows. You can grow it longer and pile it on top of your head, or cut it off. Natural baldness can cause it to fall out. It can be suppressed by pushing it down, or flattened by moisture. what is the standard regarding hair here at Celebrity Heights?
Zahid said on 11/Dec/19
If Elvis's wax figure in London is accurate, he is no more than 1.81 m. I am 1.82 m and I was taller by at least a cm.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 13/Oct/19
Rob, was Elvis’s dad 6ft2?
Editor Rob
At least 6ft 1
Rusty said on 10/Oct/19
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When he died, in 1977 at the age of only 42, he weighed 159 kilograms = 350 pounds.
Nik said on 30/Sep/19
Elvis is an absolute legend and I am so honoured to give him his 1770th comment.
Ramiro said on 30/Sep/19
Very few famous people have their heights that repeatedly measured as Elvis. We know even about minute by minute circumstances of these measurements (those in the army). His army records mostly put him at 6 feet tall. In the only one that states less than 6 feet (probably not rounded) we know he didn't go to sleep the entire night before,so he lost quite height for sure. And that's not speculation, that day, as many others, was scrutinize and published minute by minute. Nobody has same height in all circumstances. If Elvis is not a 6 footer, then every single person around 6 feet should not be considered 6 footer.
Beau Dare said on 30/Aug/19
I never met Elvis, but I did play him as an actor on the TV series "Sledge Hammer". (a spoof of Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry films). Over the years I've had many people who knew him come up to me and comment on how I am about his size(I am 6'1"). But they also state that Elvis was very modest about his height, and said at times he was 5'11 3/4" and at other times stated he was 6'0" even. Actually he might never have been measured at his peak height in the morning, and didn't know he was a true 6'0".
Spencer said on 29/Aug/19
Weak 6 footer
Todd A said on 23/Aug/19
Milton Berle was his name
Todd A said on 23/Aug/19
Any chance of a more 5’11-511.5 listing rob? He was measured as 71 inches and 185 lbs in the military. If you see pictures of him barefoot he really strikes me as a 5’11 man but a very strong 5’11 man. He’s got the proprortions of someone a bit taller. Plus his big hair. His mugshot although fake clearly lists him at about 5’10 but that was in his later years after peak height. 5’11 for Elvis, could be the weakest 6 footer in the world. 5’10 as he got older. Even in the clip with the host from the first hound dog performance who is absolutely 5’10 Elvis looks barely taller..
Editor Rob
He's had a variety of 'official' heights from 5ft 11 to 11.5 and 6ft, I've kept him in the middle one.
-LORD- said on 20/Aug/19
Real story.

People I meet and have met have always confidently asked (me) whether I am 6 foot as if I cannot be any less.

A girl (5'3" herself) in the past thought I was 6'3" barefoot (when I was skinnier) and a guy who was 6'2" himself thought I was at least 5'11" 1/2 if not 6 foot.

The last time I measured myself, back in 2016, I was 179 cm in the morning. With shoes, I am around 5'11" 1/2 and if you add the hair on my head, I am 6 foot indeed.

My chest is 44" and I am overweight (96 kilograms). I have broad shoulders but short legs.
Mike 2 said on 16/Aug/19
You can also see online his draft card from 1953 ( before real fame) and his height is precisely listed as 5ft 11 and a half , and weight as 150lbs. He was a tall lanky kid. You can’t use the excuse that he was famous when he had this measurement taken, he was a kid and whoever took the measurement didn’t obviously round it up or down. The only odd thing is that it mentions his eyes as being green, however , Elvis has been listed as having green eyes before.
He was certainly taller than 5ft 10 ins and in my opinion he continued to grow up to 6ft once he reached full maturity.
-LORD- said on 13/Aug/19
I have good reasons to believe Elvis A. Presley was around 5'10" (maximum 5'10.5" out of bed) and not a single cm / inch above that.

The reason why it is so hard to believe that Elvis was not a 6 footer is because:

1) he always wore lifts even at places where everyone else was barefoot (such as the Karate scene) to cover his actual height,

2) the fact that he was, if not the best then, one of the looking men in the history of mankind, and

3) some of us have this preconceived notion that majority of the good looking men are at least 6 foot or above, which is actually wrong.

Moreover, the fact that Elvis was larger than life, the angles at which his photos were taken (which does tend to give one an illusion of the subject's height in relation to the others standing beside him / her), his wide chest which is proportionate to a 6 footer, inter alia, makes it difficult to refute that Elvis was anything below 6 foot.

You can continue to share videos and pictures as evidence that corroborate what you all have to say here, but the truth is, Elvis was blessed with the life he had, but regardless, he was very conscious of his then slightly above average height (which majority of you will laugh it off or find it difficult to accept).

Furthermore, in the only mugshot taken of Elvis Presley, if you can stick a ruler across his head (on your computer screen) exactly from where his hairline starts, you will be surprised with the result.

I know I have been generous when I put him in the 5'10" / 5'10.5" category.

Moreover, what makes it so difficult to take a different viewpoint here is because his height has been billed above 6 foot everywhere, so it is very difficult to bargain / refute / debate for the actual height (which was much less) because no one will now settle for the actual price (i.e., the height) being offered a higher price already.

Needless to say, all these height measurements taken at the army, during issuance of his driver's license, etc., does not matter because he was as giant as the universe for some, not a star, and no one would want their universe, who, I repeat, as large as Elvis, to be below 6 foot.

As one fan had said, he thought Elvis was over 7 foot with an aura around his head, but when they met, it was nothing like that.
Mike2 said on 2/Aug/19
Check out the discharge report from 1960, it also shows Elvis as being 6ft and 170lbs
edwards said on 31/Jul/19
presley along with madonna is one of my favourite singer/people,at time he may have pull over 5'11.but flat 5'11 from me.there was a time o can remember him in las vegas where almost everyone was dressing like presley in 80s in las vegas,had a huge fan base at that time.
linda k christensen said on 30/Jul/19
According to his military identity card he was 6ft tall
Importer said on 10/Jul/19
5'11 1/2 minimum.
maggie lucas said on 30/Jun/19
Who cares what height this beautiful, talented hunk of masculinity was. The world is not a better place without you Elvis. Miss you lots.Always the King, always remembered.
Yang (5 footer 8, 172-173) said on 22/Jun/19
Elvis was just around 5ft 11 180cm during his years before his death.... If Elvis was not dead and still alive as today as a grandpa in 80s, I would've guessed him around 5ft 9 as 2019 height cause people do loose height when they become older...
K.A 188 said on 4/Jun/19
6foot of coolness
King77 said on 1/Mar/19
He got measured with his shoes on in the army. Kinda weird huh? But only Elvis could get away with that. The heels on those shoes seem to be around 1" inch to 1" 1/2 tall.
Here's the footage. Start watching at 3:30...

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My guess would be 5'10 1/2 to 5'11 tops. He wore 1/2 inch lifts inside his shoes I believe starting in the 60's.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Feb/19
That's very strange. Almost always the doctor or military will round up a measurement. I was measured 6'5 5/8" early day at the doctor's office and I'm rounded up to 6'6" on my medical record.
Colberto said on 15/Feb/19
Hey rob, I have a hypothesis as to why he was listed as 5'11" on one of his military records. They rounded down the fraction over 5'11" he measured. For an example, when I was just under 6'1" I guess, like 184-185 in the 6'0 5/8" range and they said 6'0 3/4" or whatever. They wrote for my height at 6' when I was closer to 6'1". But they just wrote me off at 6ft no fraction. So I suppose the 5'11" military record he was measured at a weak six foot. They just rounded him down. Or the stadiometer is off. I was 184cm or a couple mms under from lunch to end of day most places. They had me at 6' even like 182.5-183cm zone. When I was some fraction over six foot.
Jerome Jackson said on 13/Dec/18
I asked a couple of Elvis friends over the years about Elvis' height and I get different answers. His road manager Joe Esposito said Elvis was 5'11.5" barefoot. Ed Enoch with the Stamps quartet told me 6'2" and his karate instructor Ed Parker told me 6'. From previous posts about Ed Parker that claim he too is 6' tall, that seems to be correct. Plus the barefoot pictures of Ed & Elvis show them both as the same height. My best guess would be Elvis is a solid 6 footer.
Jerome Jackson said on 13/Dec/18
I asked a couple of Elvis friends over the years about Elvis' height and I get different answers. His road manager Joe Esposito said Elvis was 5'11.5" barefoot. Ed Enoch with the Stamps quartet told me 6'2" and his karate instructor Ed Parker told me 6'. From previous posts about Ed Parker that claim he too is 6' tall, that seems to be correct. Plus the barefoot pictures of Ed & Elvis show them both as the same height. My best guess would be Elvis is a solid 6 footer.
Lisa said on 25/Nov/18
To me, Elvis seems to be about 5’10” during his pre army days. Then he’s listed as 5’11” in the army. In later years in the 70s Elvis always seemed taller, at least 6” on stage with those jumpsuits. Is it possible he grew an inch or two after the army? I just read a book by his old girlfriend Linda Thompson who claims he was 6’1”.
MJKoP said on 14/Nov/18
jerri said on 10/Nov/18
I just wanted to add or ask or see if any1 else observes that Elvis always had a bare chest and then later on in some of his concert outfits he has a hairy chest? j/s

It's called a razor blade. 😜
jerri said on 10/Nov/18
I just wanted to add or ask or see if any1 else observes that Elvis always had a bare chest and then later on in some of his concert outfits he has a hairy chest? j/s
jerri said on 10/Nov/18
I just wanted to add or ask or see if any1 else observes that Elvis always had a bare chest and then later on in some of his concert outfits he has a hairy chest? j/s
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 16/Oct/18
Rob, at 0:34 of that clip he says it
Editor Rob
Yes it was included at the end of the description. A rather unbelievable claim really.
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Oct/18
@Robby Harris: He can look 4" taller than Sinatra in some pics, but it actually looks like 3.5" max when they're equal distance from the camera and equal posture in this video: Click Here I don't rule out a slight footwear advantage or even a small lift because I think Elvis had to be 3.5"-4" taller barefoot, but it just struck me how it was a bit less than I expected on that 1960 video. The fact Bronson has flat boxing shoes there is important. There are a few roles where I can see the 5'8" range guesses for Bronson, but what sealed 5'9" for me is how he looked throughout his 60's along with Michael Winner confirming it and the full photo of an aged Bronson and Winner lending more credence to that. But Elvis still looks just a good 2" taller or 5-5.5 cm making him a solid 5'11". There does seem to be a decent possibility Elvis wore lifts at times. Actually, there's more evidence of it than Bronson wearing lifts!

@Rampage: Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's B.B. King with Elvis and Billy Ward with Elvis in the second.

Btw, here's a more reasonable early claim of "an even 6 foot" from Elvis with timestamp back in 1956: Click Here Also, I scrolled down and read some exchanges I unfortunately missed and Tom could indeed be added to the Frank2 aliases as far as I'm concerned. I'm kind of surprised he slipped up saying "everyone in the business knew" more than once implying he was in the entertainment industry himself, much like someone else. On a side note, not EVERYONE in the business knew as Michael Winner was as close to Bronson as anyone in the business. Also, the references to his wife remind me a lot of Frank2. Well, him or Lieutenant Columbo and I think we can rule out Columbo. ;) No comment on the possibility of a 5'6" Bronson, but a 5'7" Bronson would have needed to borrow Burt Reynolds' boots on a regular basis while somehow disguising them far better than Burt ever did. I'll give "Tom" credit for revising his Elvis estimate from 5'10" to 5'11", though.
Someone said on 7/Oct/18
Rampage, I don't know if you're trolling but that's B.B. King, not Chuck Berry.
Robby Harris said on 7/Oct/18
I'd bet he woke up at 6' flat and fell into a strong 5'11" range by afternoon. I personally wouldn't have listed him any taller than 5'11.5". 180-181 cm would be his low range, imo. I will say he could look to have a solid 4" on Sinatra, but only looked about 2" taller than Bronson in "Kid Galahad".

Elvis beside 5'7.5" Frank Sinatra in 1960:
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Elvis beside 5'8.5"-5'9" Charles Bronson in 1962:
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Terry said on 4/Oct/18
184cm. Thank you. Bye!
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 2/Oct/18
Rob, you do know that he did claim 6ft1½, right?

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Editor Rob
It's a big claim, do you remember the time point in the video so I can mention it.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 2/Oct/18
Ok guys...

Elvis looking a clear and formidable 6ft2-3 next Chuck Berry (6ft0½). Standard looking shoes.

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A 5ft11 guy cannot pull that off, I'm sorry. Elvis is getting 6ft from me.
MJKoP said on 20/Sep/18
@Rob S: 5'10" is worse than 6'1.5", IMO
Rob S said on 13/Sep/18
Hi to all that have posted and will continue to post! My Brother is a ETA(Elvis Tribute Artisit) He gets his outfits from the same people at BK who are associated with those who have made elvis's Jumpsuits. Plus my brother met co stars from Elvis films as well as stood right next to Dj Fontana and Joe Esposito in a photo op. My brother is the same height as DJ fontana and he is wearing regular heels and is at least 5 inches taller than Joe Esposito. Elvis standing next to DJ is also the same height. My Brother is 5'10'' flat footed and six with boots( Elvis replica white boots 2" heels).
The co stars my brother met have Elvis somewhat the same height as my brother or just a smidge shorter. Further more I met and interviewed superfoot wallace who is in the Karate documentary film that never was released but the footage is available on youtube. I am just under 5'10" with my shoes on and i have superfoot by 2 inches and he is flat foot. In the karate film Elvis wears boots and also is flatfooted. When he doesn't have the boots on he has superfoot only by 2inches with the boots on about 4 inches.. With those boots a definite 6 footer without. a solid 5'10"s
Im sorry im rambling but i have more resources to back up the height issue. Remember Elvis made comments about himself not being 6ft tall.
We all love the KING OF ROCK! but 5'10" it is...Even Red said it...
Alex B said on 10/Sep/18
Always billed at 6.1 ft if not even 6.2 feet. He always looked tall for his era. He wouldn't be under 5.11 ft I would guess around 6 feet.
Bradley said on 27/Aug/18
6 flat for The King.
Rising - 174 cm said on 25/Aug/18
@Someone: I didn't know that about his DL, but I agree 5'11.5" seems pretty likely. It'd make sense with him claiming 6'1.5" on stage in the 70's(he presumably meant in his stage costume and heeled boots) and the apparent 6'0.5" measurement in army boots since they probably added at least an inch. Anything under 5'11" is too low, imo, but it doesn't seem like he was closer to 6' than 5'11" either, especially in the 50's and early 60's.
Someone said on 14/Aug/18
His driver's license said he was 5'11 1/2".
His costume designer said he was 5'11 1/2".
Multiple people who met him said he was 5'11 1/2".

Conclusion: Elvis was 5'11 1/2".
DanTheGuy said on 30/Jul/18
Rob, I know your probably tired of me posting on this page, but you should really take a look at this...

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The actress is Joan Blackman and she is listed at 168 or 5'6 1/8 here: Click Here. Besides, just look at her, 90% of women are under 170cm and when they are above it, you can tell from a mile away, I myself might have guessed 5'5ish by her proportions. I see no more than 5 inches between them, but look at the ground. Elvis has the high ground which is giving him at least a 1/2 inch maybe 1 full inch making him between 4-4 1/2 inches taller than her MAX.

For me, this is bulletproof evidence that he is around 179-180 because he and her are barefoot and she is an actress with an actual listed height, not hearsay or " I met so and so 40 years ago."
Editor Rob
I've not really looked at Joan, but at age 17 she was described as 5 feet 7 in some papers...
DanTheGuy said on 16/Jul/18
What about the famous mugshot from the 70's where his hair didn't even reach the 6ft mark. My hair gives me between 3-4cm. So at 5'9, with 1.5" lifts and my hair, I end up close to 6'1 or 5'11ish with hair slicked back.
Mike 2 said on 13/Jul/18
Thanks for your comments DanThe Guy, obviously I will always be in the 6ft camp as no one on this site has provided credible evidence to the contrary. After being interested in Elvis’ height for decades and having met his friends, seen official documentation which cannot be disproved by simply casually dismissing them, and seeing him with other 6ft males the evidence to me is overwhelming .
It is amusing when someone just disregards something which adds credibility to Elvis’ 6ft height simply by saying things such as” well they always exaggerate their heights” This isn’t good enough for me to change my mind- prove it!
I don’t think though that there will be any further evidence for us to look at now as it seems that everything has been released. But even we had that last measurement from the autopsy, which wasn’t taken or recorded, that still would have been dismissed either way for all types of probable reasons. So we will just have to go with our own thoughts, but i think it’s fair to say that Elvis stood around 6 ft tall!
Mike 2 said on 12/Jul/18
Hi DanTheGuy, I won’t keep going on about this as I have mentioned numerous times before on here but having met Ed Parker I can say that he was 6ft tall , and in the martial arts world he was as big as Elvis in his day. So I can’t I’m afraid believe anything other than that height for Elvis, who in barefeet was the same height, if not a fraction taller that Ed. The famous picture of Ali is not full length and there is some suggestion that Ali raised himself up onto his top toes, just messing around when it was taken. If you google Vernon Presley and Ali you will notice that standing next to each other that there isn’t much in it, and then compare the photo I have posted of Elvis in his karate gi, barefooted next to his dad.
DanTheGuy said on 12/Jul/18
Click Here Lets look at this again

Take it to photoshop and rotate it. Elvis had no more 2 inches on Linda Thompson (if his posture was better, barely an inch with that posture though) who claims 5'9. She also claimed Elvis was 6ft 1!?! Vernon had on socks, not shoes and had 3-3.5 inches on Elvis. If Linda was truly 5'9 which i find highly unlikely because most of google listing are way higher than actual height for actresses, and Vernon was really 6'2 which he didnt look it, maybe 6'1, that would make elvis right at 5'11 and no more, which is still quite tall, especially with boots on ;-P. That is of course "if" that 5'9 and 6'2 were true.
DanTheGuy said on 12/Jul/18
@Mike2 I am 5'9 but didn't know it until I was in my 20's, know why? Because my father is 5'6.75 but always said 5'9, my grandfather said 6'1-ish but was only 5'11. All women around me claimed heel heights. Because of all of that, I truly thought I was 5'11 until a physical I had revealed I was indeed only 5'9. What I'm saying is that you're only as tall (number-wise) as the other people's claims around you. To my family, I am still 5'10.5 - 5'11, but to the rest of the world, my 5'9 ends up being around 5'10.

While I would love to make comparisons to people he is barefooted with, this site did not exist 60 years ago to refute height claims of those who were less than "stars" at the time. The only thing I can do is compare pictures and heights of people who are listed on this site and make my inference based on those photographs. The evidence of Elvis, particularly in the 50's, shows me that he was obviously no less than 5'10, but not within a 1/4 of an inch of 5'11. The proof to me are the appearances on Milton Berle, with Charles Bronson, Pat Boone, and Glen Campbell, (who Rob had listed at 5'10.5 until I posted a picture of him with Elvis, and upgraded him a full 1.5" to an even 6ft instead of downgrading the mega star Elvis Presley).

As a lift wearer myself (yes, I started wearing lifts because the measured height really messed with my head after thinking I was slightly above average), I can spot them and the height variances a mile away. Not to mention the footwear choices. I went from wearing 3/4'' tennis shoes to wearing 1.5'' basketball shoes and formal shoes with a 1 inch lift inside. I threw out any shoes that couldn't hold that extra 1 inch. To me, it appears that Elvis did the same in the early 60's. The last thing I look for in a persons height is their overall mass. Looking at the 50's photographs, he doesn't look anywhere near as "massive" as a genuine bare-foot 6 footer. In fact, his build looks exactly the same as mine at 5'9, however, I do have relatively wide shoulders for a man of my height, wider than the above picture of Mr. Presley. If you look at a man who is 172 cm but built like a model vs a guy built like a telephone pole, the model looks average height and the light pole looks like a shadow of a man. As Elvis aged, his build (like most) got bigger and more robust.

On a semi side note. My drivers license (still) says 5'11 and even though I wear lifts, no one has ever once refuted those claims or suggested that I was less than that, even on the beach. This tells me that the average Joe (and Jane) are mistakenly guessing their height and the heights of other by at least a full inch.

All of my previous statements about Elvis' height are based off of what I call 50's Elvis. Though it is wildly unlikely, I'm not throwing out the possibility that he grew an inch after 22/23 y.o., I'm just saying that he was already one of the luckiest men in the world, how much more luck could one have? The only way to know for certain would have been by tape measure and that obviously wont happen. Other listed celebrity heights are our best bet, here's another one.

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That is Muhammad Ali who Rob as well as the average guess section have pegged at 6'2.5. He has at least 4 full inches on 1970's boot (not cowboy) wearing Elvis. That would put Mr. Presley at my estimated 5'10.5-.75. I have a picture of myself with a friend who's 6'1 and it looks just like the one with Ali. Remember, I'm only 5'9 and that picture was before my lift wearing days.

If a 5'10 1/2-3/4 man wore my shoes, he would be 6'1-6'1.25. That would make him the same height as a 6ft man in 1 inch shoes. Men who are 6 foot usually claim 6'1 and 6 foot claims go on down to 5'10.5 in some cases or 5'9.5 in Harry Styles case.

P.S. By no means am I discrediting yours, Robs, or anyone else's guess. There is a substantial arguement for 5'11.5-6ft too. I'm just trying to dig a tad deeper because of what happened to me, I'm a little more skeptical of claims and lifts than most.

P.S.S Where ya at Tom, I could use you!!!
Mike 2 said on 10/Jul/18
Hi DanTheGuy ,
I like your opinion, have you seen the barefoot photos of Elvis I have posted on here?
People do seem occupied with lifts etc, but when you have a barefooted Elvis you can ignore all that.
My photos show Elvis with other 6 ft plus other males ( his Dad who was 6ft 1in - 6ft 2ins, and 6ft Ed Parker) from these you can clearly see that Elvis was indeed a six foot male too.
DanTheGuy said on 9/Jul/18
Watch this lesser seen video with Uncle Milty. In a lot of the scenes, Milton surprisingly appears a 1/4'' taller than Elvis. In one scene, Milton's shoes are shown and there is no way he could have had lifts in them. Unless Elvis somehow grew 2 inches in his 20's, the only way he would have hit 6 ft was with his boots on.

On a side note, 99% of men are done growing by 20 and those who do continue to grow, gain on average, less than 1/2''. The only other cases are those who have some extremely rare spinal diseases who continue to grow until a premature death. This would mean that if Elvis did grow beyond the obvious 5'10 that he was here, that unless he was even luckier than the luckiest man in the world, which many saw him as, he would have only ended up at 5'10.5.

Draw a line that is at 5'10 and a half, then add 1 inch for hair and another 2 inches for boots. That would put your mark at 6'1 and a half. Then look at it from about 2-5 feet back. Wouldn't you think that person was at least 6 foot. That is the case with Elvis and most sub 6 ft celebrities. Throw in the larger than life factor and you've got a plethora of height boosting factors.
June Lockard said on 7/Jul/18
You need to fix this because Elvis Presley was 6ft tall without shoes. His eyes were blue and NOT hazel and the fact that you rely on a document that could have been altered shows this site is not reliable. Priscilla Presley is 5'4" tall and Lisa Marie is 5'3" tall, so I hope you FIX these three profiles soon.
DanTheGuy said on 5/Jul/18
Watch the Jailhouse Rock video. Surely someone who was near 6ft would have towered over the other men in the video. The average male height in the 50's was still in the 5'8's. 5'10.5 - 5'11 seems right, but he just didn't quite look it without his boots on. Hmmm.
DanTheGuy said on 5/Jul/18
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I don't care if you're a size 6 or 16 shoe, that slope by the laces is huge. He's getting at least 3 inches from those hooves. They still look good though ;-)
DanTheGuy said on 1/Jul/18
I seem to remember an interview early in his career where he mentions that people often say something like "I thought you were taller" or "you're shorter than I thought", I'm paraphrasing of course. I think a lot of celebrities get this and turn to lifts and or boots to help reduce such occurrences.

He looked about a 1/2 inch taller than 5'10 Milton Berle in Michael Jackson-esque shoes. Just before he was drafted, he started wearing boots and continued to do so for the rest of his career. Any height of lift can fit in boots because they are so high up the ankle and will still provide foot support.

I'd give him 5'11 1/8 out of bed. Right at 5'11 for a small part of the day. 5'10 3/4 around dinner. 5'10 5/8 after a long nighttime concert. These are all barefoot estimates. 6'1 is probable in boots.

Such big stars give off a larger than life appearance, in aura and height.

If the point of the guess option is to pick their compressed height, I'll give 5'10 3/4''. He just didn't look that tall in the 50's
Robby Harris said on 18/Jun/18
Strong 5'11" is obviously more realistic. The height listed above was most likely his morning height. Bronson was 5'9", and you're right about the flat footwear. The ONLY way Bronson could be a 5'7" guy there is if he's somehow managed to hide 3" lifts in his shoes. Anybody who understands how lifts work can conclude that that's clearly impossible!
MAD SAM said on 4/Jun/18
Gonna give him 181 cm
Rising - 174 cm said on 1/Jun/18
I doubt Bronson wore lifts in a film where Elvis was the star and his footwear looked flat anyway: Click Here I think it adds up with Bronson being around 5'9" or slightly under and Elvis being somewhere between 5'11"-5'11.5". Both could look taller than this during their career. I don't doubt the 6'1.5" Elvis claimed on stage was roughly his height in the heels he wore while Bronson could pass for a 5'10" guy even well into his 60's.
Afka9 said on 31/May/18
Was he pretty tall for 1900's Usa ? His height is tall but not too tall for Turkey now
Robby Harris said on 26/May/18
I do wonder if Bronson wore lifts in Kid Galahad...Elvis might have been more a stronger 5'11" than a weak 6'...5'11.5" would be the perfect listing for him, imo. It's the most reasonable to me as he could look anywhere between 180-183 cm. Either way, a desirable height and talented singer/actor with a great physical build (during his prime).

Forgot to add...some of the taller measurements on his army medicals may have been taken early morning, hence the varied heights. 6'0.5" - almost certainly measured with boots on, 5'11" - arguably shoeless in the afternoon or evening. Height above easily could've been his outta bed height.
MH said on 20/May/18
Nixon was 5'11, look at the pic of them next to each other, he was just a little bit taller than Nixon. Elvis costumes would fit me I have a similar build to his but I have a 11.5 shoe. With shoes he most likely hit 6'1. BTW I have 42 chest and have hit the six foot mark without shoes if I don't slouch.
handsomeblackbrady1953 said on 14/May/18
Beau,you should know,having played Elvis,but wasn't he closer to five-ten-and-one-half than six feet?
berta said on 9/May/18
if the guy was measured at 184 in boots. then he wasnt taller than at best 181,5 and could have been 180,5-181. thoose shoes gave about 3 cm in my eyes. i think 1/4 downgrade , maybe half inch
King fan said on 5/May/18
Elvis wasn’t as tall as 6’ but I can’t tell you his real height, as no one other than him will really know. But his costume designer Bill Belew said in an interview that Elvis always wore a size 9 (US) shoe so that solves that. No idea why it says on google that Elvis was a size 11. His personal costume designer stated he was a size 9, what more proof do we need?
Beau Dare said on 1/May/18
I never met Elvis ,but I did play him, as an actor, on the TV series "Sledge Hammer". (a spoof of Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry films).Over the years I've had many people comment on how similar I am in size and height to Elvis.(I am 6'1")Many of these people have told me that they knew Elvis, and he appeared to be just a shade over 6 feet. I'd say judging from this, Elvis was about 6'1/4", and also, a fine actor.
Leno said on 26/Apr/18
Solid 182 cm
Mike 2 said on 25/Apr/18
Hi Amaral,
I think you have asked me this before? Anyway, after Aloha from Hawaii Elvis played Vegas straight away, and then continued to tour the US, as well as playing Vegas twice a year until 1976.
In 1976 he played Vegas once only and this was his final time there, however he continued to tour the large arenas. He was still very popular and was one of the biggest concert artists, certainly up there with other big acts, such as the Stones and Led Zep.
Really he was touring too much and this showed in some of his shows, but he could still pull off great ones. Check out on YouTube Birmingham in Dec 76 to get an idea. The film quality is poor but you can still see that Elvis was in great shape and was still capable of putting on a great show.
I have just recently read Linda Thompson’s book, and she claims that Elvis was 6ft 1in tall !!
Hope this helps.
Amaral said on 23/Apr/18
Hi Mike 2 how are you ?
Just tell after the show in hawai i 1973 , was Elvis forgotten in USA ?
im from brazil and there are friends of mine that went to us tro do english course and they told me that they never heard about elvis while the were there. this was in 1974 till his dearh .
Elvis im the 70 was like sinatra or no ?
M58 said on 24/Feb/18
5'11" is a possibility, considering he didn’t look a lot taller than Charles Bronson in Kid Galahad...Bronson was between 5'8.5"-5'9". I have to admit, I didn’t see a 3 inch difference between them. Overall, 5'11.5" (give or take a half inch) can be argued imo, definitely no less than a solid 5'11" though!

I personally wouldn’t put him above 5'11.5" myself because of his costume designer’s stated measurements. Was it an under measurement? I’d say highly unlikely...
ebcf said on 21/Feb/18
His hair gave him extra height, I'd say he was around 180cm barefoot
Mike O said on 21/Feb/18
When an insanely famous man from the (historically) recent past is of slightly above average but not distinctive or remarkably memorable height the guessing game on his true size takes on a life of its own. From pictures of the time and accounts I've read, Elvis seemed to be probably a slim but solid 6' tall man at his peak height as a young man (maybe another inch for his famous hair) and probably held close to that throughout most of his life. He might've shrunk slightly near the end of his life with all of the weight he put on and the rough shape he was in but even then he likely didn't go much below 5'11" without shoes. He was not a small person. Not massive but solidly built.
Ian C. said on 18/Feb/18
I am already noticed your posts on the Celebrity Heights, MJKoP. That little zinger of yours on the Jerry Seinfeld page was pretty sharp. My own posts are a little, um, indulgent. I try and I try to stick to the subject of height, but I often fly off on tangents relating to other aspects of various celebrities' personalities and careers. (This can get out of hand. I have a near-psychotic scorn for Bob Dylan, for example.)

But height is such a striking personal attribute. People who are unusually tall or short are aware of it all the time, and people who are just midrange in height often want to be taller, especially if they are public figures. My favourite category of post here is, "I met him and there's no way he's five foot eleven." Which reminds me: Elvis wasn't five foot eleven either.
MJKoP said on 18/Feb/18
Ian C. said on 17/Feb/18
Well thank you MJKoP. It's not everyday I get praised for being a sarcastic grouch. And I'm a sarcastic grouch everyday.

Do a search...I'm usually the resident sarcastic grouch. :D

As for his musical influence, Lennon himself once said "Before Elvis, there was nothing"

In regards to his character, yes...he was ridiculously charitable at every opportunity given, and then some. A news anchor once offhandedly mused about Elvis' recent string of car gift-giving by saying "And if you're listening Elvis, I wouldn't mind a new car, too!"

The very next day.... :O
Ian C. said on 17/Feb/18
Well thank you MJKoP. It's not everyday I get praised for being a sarcastic grouch. And I'm a sarcastic grouch everyday.

Oddly, I don't really like a lot of Elvis's songs, and you'd need a shotgun to get me to sit through one of his movies. He interests me because he was an unusually decent man. I think I read somewhere that half of all the records sold in the United States in 1956 were by Elvis. (Or maybe it was half of all the records sold by RCA.) The thing is, he was not just a man but the principal capital asset of an entire industry. Elvis, by dint of a strangely compelling personal appeal, was paying the salaries and wages of thousands of people. He could have been an appalling swine to everybody (as Frank Sinatra sometimes was) and people would have just put up with it. Instead he was compulsively kind and generous to everyone he met, and this was when he was in his early twenties, when many people are barging around doing all kinds of damage because, for the first time in their lives, they can exert power.
MJKoP said on 13/Feb/18
Ian C. said on 7/Feb/18
Elvis Presley was under surveillance by the F.B.I. in the mid-50s because he was suspected of corrupting the morals of American youth. A U2 spy plane was used to take an overhead photograph of him in August of 1956. In the photograph he is standing next to a 1954 Cadillac Eldorado, whose dimensions are exactly known. The resolution of the photograph was so good that it is evident from it that Presley was barefoot at the time it was taken. The exact time of day is known, as well as the latitude at which Presley was standing. Strategic Air Command technicians compared the length of Presley's shadow in the photograph to measured dimensions on the Cadillac and determined that Elvis Presley was exactly six foot and a quarter of an inch tall. (The source for this story is my cousin Murray, who has been sober for five days now.)

Now I don't want to hear any more of this five foot eleven and three-quarters nonsense.

That might actually be the best post I've ever read as a daily visitor and contributor for over a decade.
Ian C. said on 7/Feb/18
Elvis Presley was under surveillance by the F.B.I. in the mid-50s because he was suspected of corrupting the morals of American youth. A U2 spy plane was used to take an overhead photograph of him in August of 1956. In the photograph he is standing next to a 1954 Cadillac Eldorado, whose dimensions are exactly known. The resolution of the photograph was so good that it is evident from it that Presley was barefoot at the time it was taken. The exact time of day is known, as well as the latitude at which Presley was standing. Strategic Air Command technicians compared the length of Presley's shadow in the photograph to measured dimensions on the Cadillac and determined that Elvis Presley was exactly six foot and a quarter of an inch tall. (The source for this story is my cousin Murray, who has been sober for five days now.)

Now I don't want to hear any more of this five foot eleven and three-quarters nonsense.
MJKoP said on 7/Feb/18
Amaral 2 said on 5/Feb/18
Hello Steve where u been ?

He's been around. ;)
Amaral 2 said on 5/Feb/18
Hello Steve where u been ?
There is a pic in film that Elvis and Ursula are in brefeet .
In that pic you can have an idea how tall Elvis was ,
The film was in Acapulco .
David Mortimer said on 28/Jan/18
PEarth187 yes 5,8 was average for a man back then 5,11 was above average but Elvis likes to wear high heeled boots to tip him above the 6ft mark , nothing wrong with 5,11 Elvis was a good height and to see the 69 Vegas come back outfit in reality it shows you how slim a man he was in his prime ..
Psychedelic Earth 187 said on 27/Jan/18
No David, men in the 60’s were 5’8” on average. Elvis was the ideal height back then(5’11” and 6’ range)

But after seeing him on his wife’s documentary I’d peg him at 180cm.
David Mortimer said on 26/Jan/18
I’ve been to see the Elvis Exhibition at the 02 and im surprised how narrow and small the suits seem , the heels he wore as well would give him 2 inches I think Elvis was no more then 5’11 which is a good height for a man , the man seemed far more mortal size wise than the idea he projected on screen which just shows you how much charisma he had , Elvis wasn’t super tall or small he was above average for his time and carried it well ...
assari said on 2/Jan/18
It is said that Michael Douglas is 178 cm (5'10.08) long and Elvis looks taller than him with or without shoes.
avi said on 28/Nov/17

Did you see the police picture where Elvis looks a tad under 6'0?

I'd imagine he'd be in shoes probably dress shoes or boots that would give a solid inch or 1.25.

Is it possible he was just 5'11 flat?
He looks like my build and I'm a weak 6'0.
In shoes I'm definitely over 6 foot. Something doenst add up here.

Also I saw a picture next to Lorne Greene. They look same height. Maybe both were strong 5'11 guys barefoot?
I read somewhere Greene was 5'10.75 barefoot, think his daughter wrote it. Maybe he was by late 1970s. He probably lost .5-.75 after Bonanza.
Slim 185 said on 17/Nov/17
TBH I see more 180-181 for him 179sub and 182plus should be ruled out, he’s just a solid 5’11” guy.
Slim 185 said on 17/Nov/17
MJKoP, he was on meth....
Male Alpha said on 16/Nov/17
Roy Orbison( 5ft 11in (180.3 cm) and Johnny Cash 6ft 1.5in (186.7 cm)
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Johnny Cash 6ft 1.5in (186.7 cm) and Elvis
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Elvis is 5ft 11.72in ,
MJKoP said on 16/Nov/17
Slim 185 said on 14/Nov/17
Editor Rob: doubt he'd be able to walk, though if he could stand up he might not measure above 5ft 9.
Lmao, 82 year olds can walk.
Editor Rob: I doubt Elvis would be walking around, he'd be done in by then through lifestyle and wear & tear.

Well, the "lifestyle and wear & tear" is what killed him in the first place, so it's kinda moot point!
Slim 185 said on 15/Nov/17
Editor Rob: I doubt Elvis would be walking around, he'd be done in by then through lifestyle and wear & tear.
Good point, Same as Marilyn Monroe, The Hollywood lifestyle does age the body rapidly.
Anonymous said on 14/Nov/17
fairly big head.
Slim 185 said on 14/Nov/17
Editor Rob: doubt he'd be able to walk, though if he could stand up he might not measure above 5ft 9.
Lmao, 82 year olds can walk.
Editor Rob: I doubt Elvis would be walking around, he'd be done in by then through lifestyle and wear & tear.
Denis said on 11/Nov/17
how tall would he be today if he were still alive?
Editor Rob: doubt he'd be able to walk, though if he could stand up he might not measure above 5ft 9.
MJKoP said on 9/Nov/17
Male Alpha said on 8/Nov/17
5ft 11.72in Exactly , On Stage 6' 1"

You hear that, Rob? The King needs a .03 inch downgrade!
Editor Rob: it's not a lot to ask for, but I think he's ok where he is!
Male Alpha said on 8/Nov/17
5ft 11.72in Exactly , On Stage 6' 1"
Slim 184 said on 3/Nov/17
5’11.5” absolutely maximum. I wonder who’d be taller between Brad Pitt and Elvis, it’d be interesting to see.
Slim 6' said on 29/Oct/17
181 would be a better listing.
Mike 2 said on 29/Oct/17
Hi Amaral, I do see other people’s points of view, but when you see these photos in barefeet it’s difficult to see Elvis as being anything else but around 6’. I do think that Vernon was still slightly taller but not by much. TCB
Amaral said on 28/Oct/17
Hello Mike2 ,I finally am convinced that Elvis is 6” or a bit less after you posted the pics where Elvis , linda and his father are in barefoot .
There are guys here that posted pics where Elvis looks short beside his father but we can’t see what are they wearing .
Mike 2 said on 26/Oct/17
Hi Amaral, it is hard to see, however I think they both could be, even though the other two men are barefooted. I have looked through many photos from this session and in some Elvis and Ed are barefooted but in others they appear to be wearing some type of black shoewear. The one I posted I think Elvis looks taller than usual next to Ed, as when barefooted they are virtually the same, perhaps with Elvis having half an inch. Hopefully you have seen the other photos of Ed with Joe Lewis and Bruce Lee. Ed Parker was obviously a true legend in the martial arts world, even helping Bruce Lee to become famous, and he was described in the martial arts world as being 6ft tall, long before his association with Elvis.
All the best.
Amaral said on 25/Oct/17
Hello Mike 2 how are you ?
In that pic that you posted of Elvis and Parker in black outfit are they wearing shoes ?
MJKoP said on 23/Oct/17
Teapot, kettle.
Tom said on 22/Oct/17
I think some of you need to get a life. I’’m done in this thread.
MJKoP said on 21/Oct/17
Tom said on 20/Oct/17
MJKoP, of course they’re ‘horrible’ because they prove my point. Nothing on earth wrong with any of them.

Okay, if you're one to talk about objectivity, you might need to take a few pages out of your own book. :) But seriously, using blanket such as "they prove my point", is quite irresponsible because, yes, if those pictures you selected to share were the only things we had to gauge ABC's height(as this applies to *so* many people on this site, and, no, not just former members whose names began with the letter "F" with a number on the end), of course it would suggest that you COULD be right. But we frequently see pictures passed off as hardcore "proof" where A. Ground/footwear not visible and/or obscured B. Deceptive angles C. Making assumptions that XYZ standing next to ABC is of whatever given height.

RisingForce quite frankly irritates the heck out of me when it comes to his views on world politics, as we got into a heated debate over it and I was quite appalled by what I considered flat-out ignorance of the worst type imaginable. But I have to hand it to him - he's probably one of, if not THE, best and most comprehensive height sleuths ever to have graced this website. He backs his estimations up with rationales that actually make sense, and it more than willing to amend his guesses if he feels someone has proven him wrong. He also never fails to humbly acknowledge where he could be mistaken, but cogently explains why he is inclined to stick to his convictions. I think we could BOTH learn from his methods of arguing about height.

Tom said on 19/Oct/17
MJKoP, you say everyone overwhelmingly disagrees with me therefor I’m wrong? I don’t know whether to just laugh at such a remark or to comment that you tend to be a bit over the top.

Whether Bronson was 5'5", 5'7", 5'9", or 6'2", he did indeed have a specific height that defined him, so it wasn't a matter of opinion how tall he was a fact. We here just try to pinpoint that specific figure as closely as we can. Most of us like to try to look at the all of the evidence available and arrive at what we consider to be an intelligent, reasonable and educated guess concerning what a celeb's true height is or was. If you've reviewed everything pertaining to Bronson's vertical stature, and still conclude he was 5'7" or 5'6", then I respect that, as it's your personal opinion. Just like my opinion is that you're disregarding some very glaring evidence which strongly suggests he was taller. Of course, I'm sure your rebuttal will again be that he wore lifts and I'M the one who is being fooled, which I can respect as well.

I never implied that when the vast majority of a crowd has a differing opinion, the minority is wrong by default. But when it comes to the context of this site, what are the odds that one man(Tom), would be the one guy who somehow is on to something, and practically everyone else is just blind to the facts? I mean, the statistical probabilities of that being the case are fairly low, no? Which is all the more evidence(but obviously not PROOF!), to suggest that one could reasonable deduct that you could be Frank2/KnowitAll/Steve/et al because they all had identical unpopular opinions, so if at least four apparently separate individuals held whatever controversial viewpoints, it could bolster the case. I definitely despise Glenn far more than Frank2(whom, incidentally I really hold no grudge against, as I stated earlier), but you felt the need to clarify that you weren't Glenn either - to which I responded that I never accused you of there is NO evidence to suggest that. I presented my case for the potential of you being Frank2, and I'll let the readers and site contributors analyze it and judge for themselves. But for your sake, hopefully they're better at interpreting purported false identities than they are at guessing heights. :D

Take care.
Mike 2 said on 21/Oct/17
Hi Tom, yes Elvis would have been 6ft 2 in in his films and we all know that he wasn’t this height, even Elvis himself stated that he was only 6ft.
I disagree with the height growth in a persons twenties, unusual yes but not never. Like I said it’s well documented that Johnny Cash grew by almost two inches when he was on National service, what age he was I don’t know, but at a guess he would have been twenty plus?
Anyway , I’m sure you agree from my barefoot photos of Elvis that he and Ed Parker were the same height?
I have now submitted the photo of Parker with 6ft Joe Lewis and likewise they are also the same height, both towering over Bruce Lee. So it’s pretty obvious surely that Elvis was this height because you can’t lie with my barefoot photos.So what do you think now?????
Tom said on 21/Oct/17
Mike, people don’t grow in height in their 20’s. When Elvis entered the army he was 23. Elvis was no more than 5’11’’. I recently watched Tickle Me. Elvis wore height increasing boots. I noticed 5’10’’ Jack Mullaney wore tennis shoes with hardly any heel. That made Elvis look a lot taller than him.
Mike 2 said on 21/Oct/17
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Here you are Tom, Ed Parker with karate champ Joe Lewis who is also listed as 6ft!!!!
That is 5ft 7in- 5ft 8in Bruce Lee in the middle and he was a good friend of Parker’s.
Both Ed and Joe are wearing the same outfit so probably in the USA team and most probably the same footwear , so I am trying to find these other six footers for you!
Mike 2 said on 21/Oct/17
Tom - Ed Parker photos are with a six footer- Elvis! It wouldn’t matter what I show, you wouldn’t accept it. I don’t have to prove anything, I’ve met him and so I know and it’s not an issue for me if you can’t accept that.
Ed Parker is listed online as being that height and so if that, like Elvis’ height isn’t believed then really everyone’s listed height is incorrect and people you refer to about being a certain height can’t be believed either.
It’s not nonsense either about the height growth in the army, unlikely I accept but a possibility as it has been reported by a journalist Nancy Anderson who said that he had grown when she met him during his service.
So, Ed Parker wasn’t six foot, neither was Vernon and Linda Thompson isn’t 5ft 9in; How convenient? I think someone here is in denial.
Tom said on 20/Oct/17
MJKoP, of course they’re ‘horrible’ because they prove my point. Nothing on earth wrong with any of them.

And Mike 2, this constant referring to Ed Parker being 6’ doesn’t mean much unless you can show us photos of Parker with true six footers.

Elvis grew late? Prove it. And how late? In his twenties? Nonsense.
Mike 2 said on 20/Oct/17
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Elvis with 6 ft Ed Parker, probably barefooted Click Here
Elvis with Vernon Presley who was between 6ft 1” and 6ft 2” tall.
This is a barefoot photo and can be verified by viewing a full length shot which I submitted a few days ago.
I still believe that Elvis grew late just like Johnny Cash apparently did by up to two inches when Cash went into the airforce!
This is why barefoot photos beat anything else hands down as you can’t argue about lifts or shoe wear etc, but of course the same applies in relation to camera angles.
You can clearly see though that Elvis was tall and not an average 5ft 10in or indeed 5ft 11in . For me a definite six footer.
People can say that Ed Parker’s height and even Vernon’s can’t be verified, however to us Elvis fans and in my case 57 years and counting we know that we are correct.
MJKoP said on 19/Oct/17
Tom, these Bronson pictures are horrible for the sake of comparison. At least now you concede that Elvis was 5'11" when before you seemed pretty adamant that he was under. But the boxing ring shot shows nowhere near four inches between Charlie and Presley, which presents a major problem for a 5'7" Bronson.
Tom said on 19/Oct/17
MJKoP, you say everyone overwhelmingly disagrees with me therefor I’m wrong? I don’t know whether to just laugh at such a remark or to comment that you tend to be a bit over the top.

Elvis was most likely 5’11” but later in his career wore shoes and boots designed to boost his height to well over 6’.

Bronson was 5’7”.

I have a right to my beliefs just as you have the right to your own. But to put me down for mine tells me you’re the one needing introspection.
MJKoP said on 19/Oct/17
@Tom I've explained why I see things the way I see them, and the fact that almost everyone else agrees with me. When you're in a situation where the overwhelming majority is in opposition to you, it may call for some introspection.
MJKoP said on 18/Oct/17
@Harris Don't forget "Steve"....and perhaps a few others. ;)
Tom said on 18/Oct/17
OK. My last post on Bronson. Check out this photo. That’s Borgnine peeking over Lancaster’s left shoulder. And Bronson is on the left. Tell me Borgnine isn’t at least two inches taller. Click Here

Bronson was 5’7’’. Elvis was 5’11’’. And for the people thinking I’m someone else in a effort to belittle my views, all I can say is try to remain objective.
Tom said on 18/Oct/17
Incredibly unreasonable simply because people disagree with you? Bizarre estimates? Sounds like unless people tow the line, they’re singled out. It sadly sems to be the way of things these days.
Harris said on 18/Oct/17
Tom and our dear friend Frank2/KnowItAll would have certainly made great friends and profuse agreements with each other if both were to post their borderline bizarre estimates...unless their the same person of course!
MJKoP said on 18/Oct/17
And I never accused you of being I'd have no reason to do so.
MJKoP said on 18/Oct/17
Sorry, but this is absolutely ridiculous...the photo YOU shared, Tom, shows that Elvis was NOT a lot taller than Bronson, contrary to what you just stated on the 16th. It's one of the best shots for comparison purposes due to it being full-bodied, on a flat surface, *and* with identical footwear. I saw a solid two inches of difference - perhaps a bit more, but perhaps not. It certainly shatters the belief that Elvis was a 6'2" guy barefooted, but Elvis is still easily a very strong 5'11", and almost unquestionable over that mark. Since Bronson and Presley's heights are therefore now dependent upon one another, you definitely went far overboard with your Bronson estimates when you say he was nothing over 5'7" and possibly 5'6".

Go to the Bronson page here. Plenty of evidence presented by RisingForce showcases a 5'9" peak Bronson. Check it all out, and report back; Rising makes some very compelling arguments. Since you are absolutely not Frank2(at least according to you), I expect you to come around on this one, since Rising sells his case very well, and leaves little to no room for any counterarguments. Frank2, as entertaining as he was, could be one seriously stubborn S.O.B., to the point where he stuck to his stories of Stallone at 5'7", Gary Oldman at at least 5'10" barefoot, Michael Jackson at 5'7", et al., even when the overwhelming evidence belied his vast proclamations many times over. Frank2 was known to be incredibly unreasonable when it came to budging from his initial height estimations, but since I now am willing to accept that you are not him, I'm sure you'll read the comments and view the links on Bronson's page and come back fully convinced. ;)
Tom said on 17/Oct/17
Scroll down to the section on Vera Cruz to see how short Bronson was next to everyone else. Click Here
Harris said on 17/Oct/17
Nope. Bronson still doesn't look your insistent 5'7" claim in the group photo with Crawford, Meeker and Talman either imo. 174 cm is still passable there. And Elvis certainly didn't tower above Bronson in Kid Galahad either.
Tom said on 17/Oct/17
Scroll down to the second photo. That’s 6’ Broderick Crawford, 6’1” Ralph Meeker, 5’10” William Talman and 5’7” Charles Bronson.

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Tom said on 17/Oct/17
Rising, Borgnine himself claimed to be 5’9’’. Why would he lie? It’s extremely unusual for an actor to claim a height shorter than they really are. But I have to say that Borgnine looked more like a 5’10” guy. But no way was he 5’11’’. He’s obviously shorter than actors listed as being 6’. And he wore obvious lifts in From Here to Eternity to look taller than 5’10’’ Montgomery Clift. Borgnine admitted wearing lifts in the film in an interview I read. He said Clift was an inch taller than him.
Editor Rob: there was another quote I found for Ernest, it's on his page and he also claimed six feet earlier in his career!
Mike 2 said on 16/Oct/17
Further to my last I actually think that Vernon is wearing dark socks and not shoes.
Mike 2 said on 16/Oct/17
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I know people on here seem to prefer waist up shots with different footwear, and dislike the full length barefoot photos which actually do give you a better perspective of the real height of Elvis, however here is another one of Elvis next to 5ft 9ins beauty queen and long time girlfriend Linda Thompson. 6ft 1in - 6ft 2in Vernon Presley is also here but in shoes. It doesn’t prove everything, but it’s far better to look at and get an idea from, rather than these other photos of various films/ actors in all kinds of shoes and boots which prove absolutely nothing! TCB
Tom said on 16/Oct/17
Bronson was short. No question. There are more photos of Curtis with Bronson I couldn’t link. There was a two inch difference. But then since both men wore lifts, it’s amusing to think what they’d look like without then standing barefoot. After Douglas’s accident, he lost height. And he wasn’t that tall to begin with. For those who doubt Bronson was short, there’s nothing more to be said except camera angles can change actor’s heights as they appear together. Obviously Elvis was a lot taller than Bronson. Watch the movie.
Harris said on 16/Oct/17
@Tom, that's not a two inch difference between Tony Curtis and Charles Bronson. At the VERY most that's a one inch difference, most likely less. Their eye-levels and body frame are close, but of course Curtis has the longer head. And the pic with Douglas is hard to tell due to the camera angle, they look close in height there nonetheless. As for you saying Bronson could have been 5'6" -- you have got to be joking right!? Elvis wouldn't have been over 5'8.5" by that bizarre logic!
Tom said on 15/Oct/17
Elvis looked considerably shorter next to Walter Matthau.

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And Elvis wasn’t that much taller than 5’9” Vic Morrow.

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Tom said on 15/Oct/17
Not to belabor the point....

5’9’’ Tony Curtis is two inches taller than Bronson. Click Here

And here in this photo taken of him with Kirk Douglas who was still recovering from his near fatal helicopter crash the men are roughly the same height. You can see the bruises still on Douglas’s face. That accident compressed his spine. He had been 5’8’’, but lost a couple of inches from the accident. Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 15/Oct/17
@Tom: Bronson is standing noticeably behind Borgnine, which alone will make him look shorter, but you can see his knee bent and with them outside as opposed to on solid ground like he is with Sean Penn and Chuck Norris. I've seen many Bronson films and he mostly looks like a completely average height man to me. Including films he appeared in barefoot. Whether he wore lifts at times, he wasn't wearing Bogart's Casablanca shoes or Karloff's Frankenstein boots. I think we'll have to agree to disagree because I just don't see a possibility Bronson was under 5'8", much less 5'7". Incidentally, I can't believe Ernest Borgnine was only 5'9" in his prime. I saw him listed 5'11" in an old article and I'd bet he was closer to that than 5'9" so he was undoubtedly taller than Bronson, but not as much as that still favoring him shows.

But I can agree with you on the possibility of Elvis being 5'11" and the fact it can be tough to see an inch difference at times.
Tom said on 15/Oct/17
You seem obsessed with this person known as Frank2. I assure you that’s not me. Never has been me. Nor am I that other character Glenn. Nor am I anyone except who I am. I would never put my picture on the web. Nor would I ever use my own name. Anyone who does is a fool asking for trouble. The web can be entertaining, even enlightening. But lurking out there is a bevy of weirdos and crazed individuals. I constantly chide my wife for having a social media account.

It’s common knowledge in the industry that Bronson was 5’7’’. All you have to do is watch his films. He’s consistently shorter than other actors listed at being 5’9’’ or more. Unless Ernest Borgnine lied about his own height being 5’9’’, Bronson is nor more than 5’7’’. He could have even been 5’6’’.
MJKoP said on 14/Oct/17
@Tom: Well, according to that boxing picture with the even footwear, Elvis would have to be *under* five ten if Bronson was five seven. Such a mind blowing coincidence that you aren't Frank2, yet your height estimates mirror his like a carbon copy. Since you are a completely different person, I have to now inform you that yes, Frank2 DID consistently insist Bronson was only five foot seven, despite so many here arguing otherwise. Seeing your posts is almost literally like experiencing Déjà Vu, Tom.

Hey, could do me and the others here a small favor to ease our crazy and imaginative minds? Frank2 once posted a picture of himself standing next to others, so we all(or at least *I*) know what he looks like. Just take a quick, clear selfie of yourself holding a piece of paper that says "Tom, NOT FRANK2 @"????? Just so we can finally have proof positive that you two are different people. Since you, as someone who isn't Frank2, and seems to be a very reasonable and rational individual would have to objectively say that our suspicions are rightfully aroused. Just humor us and put our silly little minds at ease once and for all. One quick and simple photo....and I swear on my life, you won't ever have to hear the name 'Frank2' from me ever again. :)
Tom said on 14/Oct/17
Rising, check out how short Bronson is next to Ernest Borgnine. Click Here
Mike 2 said on 14/Oct/17
The article regarding the hairpiece is from a’ joke’ magazine. Elvis had white hair, dyed black and this would run into his eyes constantly under the stage lights. It’s a pity he felt the need to dye it, but I suppose it was the image thing.
Also recently heard that in ‘74 Led Zep’s management were interested in taking Elvis from the Colonel. Now that would have been interesting.
Tom said on 13/Oct/17
‘’Who cares if he wore a hairpiece anyway? He apparently contracted a disease from the army which led to hair loss, so it's not wrong or weird he wore a hairpiece. And what significance does it have to his height exactly?! None.’’

It has lots of significance because that rug added three inches! I don’t believe Elvis got some disorder in the army leading to hair loss. I believe that’s a false story. I’m good at spotting toupees. Elvis had his own hair at least until the 1970s when he was appearing on stage in Las Vegas. He might have worn that hairpiece which looked like it was made by the same person who made Liberace’s wig because it meant Elvis didn’t have to spend time having his own hair styled. Or he could have started to suffer from male pattern baldness. Dying his hair black over many years couldn’t have been beneficial to the health of his scalp.
Tom said on 13/Oct/17
Bronson was short. Watch House of Wax. No way was he anywhere near being 5’9’’.

As for Elvis being 5’11’’, I must admit that’s possible. He tended to slump a bit next to 5’10’’ Milton Berle. Also seeing an inch difference is difficult, especially considering camera angles.
Harris said on 12/Oct/17
I still think a 5'11.5" listing for Elvis might make more sense overall than a weak six foot. Bronson would have to be more 5'9.5" if Elvis was nearer 6', I admit.
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Oct/17
Bronson did not have lifts in his bare feet and some, including Rob thought Bronson looked about 5'9" in his barefoot appearances. There's also a scene early in Death Wish 3 where Bronson is sitting on a bench and his pant leg comes enough to see he doesn't look to be wearing lifts yet he was still not much shorter than 5'8.5" Deborah Raffin who was wearing heels. Keep in mind, Bronson was 63 by that point. Frank2 actually mentioned Bronson having one leg shorter than the other(Frank2 was also of the opinion Bronson was only 5'7" ;) ) and Bronson does often look to me like he has one shoe with a higher heel than the other, which actually might have mistakenly led people to believe he wore big heels when only one of his heels were big. I've only seen a few occasions where I thought he might be wearing lifts, though, and even if he did, that'd explain why he could look his official height of 5'10", which would be almost impossible if he were 5'7". As a man a bit over 5'8", I have a pretty good idea of how a 5'7" man looks and Bronson just doesn't have the build of a man that short. Although even if I'm right about Bronson being 5'9" or 5'8.5" absolute minimum, I'm still not seeing Elvis much more than 2" taller.

Although I do find Tom's photo of Elvis interesting as it may substantiate some of the lift rumors. There is at least a chance, imo, that Elvis measured 5'11" barefoot and then the 6'0" were shoe measurements. That seems much more likely than repeatedly getting measured his high and then once at his low. Though it could also be a case of an error, or some rounding.

@Rob: If Elvis measured 6'0.5" in boots, wouldn't that make 5'11.25"-5'11.5" most likely barefoot?
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 11/Oct/17
I've seen the shoes he wore on stage and in public, the heels massive. Easily add 2in+. I'm sure in person he was never without them and appeared at least 6ft2. The people at Graceland described him as being just that.
Harris said on 11/Oct/17
Who cares if he wore a hairpiece anyway? He apparently contracted a disease from the army which led to hair loss, so it's not wrong or weird he wore a hairpiece. And what significance does it have to his height exactly?! None.
Tom said on 10/Oct/17
Bronson was 5'7'' and wore lifts.

What do you make of this? Click Here

Elvis definitely wore a black full hairpiece on stage the last few years he performed. Just look at it. Click Here

Nobody has natural hair like that. It looks like a helmet.
Harris said on 1/Oct/17
Rob, since you list Elvis as a weak six foot, what do you make of the 5'11" documented on his army medical? Why would they list him that low?
Editor Rob: there's a few army related listings, even as much as 6ft 1/2 inch, though that seems to be in boots.
Tom said on 30/Sep/17
An uncle was in the US Navy. He was measured at 6'1''. His true height was slightly over 5'11''. Never trust the government!
Mike 2 said on 30/Sep/17
Tom- with all due respect , if the US army isn’t an authorised body which can’t be believed then nothing is- not even an autopsy!
Tom said on 28/Sep/17
Most actors did not wear lifts. Only the short ones or those who were of medium height who wanted to look tall. I never saw Richard Widmark wear lifts yet he was no more than 5'10''. Perhaps even 5'9''. I never saw lifts on Jack Lemmon who was reportedly 5'9''. Nor on many actors under six feet. Ty Power wore lifts in The Long Gray Line. But that was the only feature I spotted them in.

And we have no proof of anyone's height. Think about it. Unless measured and recorded by an irrefutable source such as during an autopsy, everything is pure speculation. And official heights with celebrities are always suspect.
Mike2 said on 27/Sep/17
Hi Amaral, this is from the NewGladiators film and you can see that Elvis was quite happy to be filmed barefooted with others around him. He was obviously not that bothered about his height. The person he is training with was I believe his stepbrother David and he is a bit taller than Elvis. Towards the end of the film when you see Elvis enter the lesson he is followed by Rick Stanley who has the blonde hair and he was six foot, the same height as Elvis. TCB
Amaral said on 26/Sep/17
Hello Mike 2 how r u ?
Could u go YouTube and watch Elvis presely - karate 6 !
In this video Elvis is praticsing karate with a tall guy , for me seem to be his stepbrother Bill or Rick .
Do u know how tall they are ?
Tom said on 26/Sep/17
Check out the shoes, especially the rear on how high up they go. Definitely lifts. They gave Elvis an extra inch. Click Here
Editor Rob: there's certainly room for a lift in a shoe like that.
Tom said on 26/Sep/17
Hebler is obviously bending his knees while Elvis is more recent. That said, I hardly see much of a difference. How do you know Hebler is exactly 5'10"?

Hebler is in the first photo linked by me. Scroll down to the third to see the boots Elvis wore. Click Here
Harris said on 26/Sep/17
I agree the 182 cm might certainly be a bit too high, but 5'11"-5'11.5" seems spot on. Elvis didn't quite look Rob's listing with Charles Bronson in Kid Galahad. If Bronson really was never over 5'8.5", then a solid 5'11" might be the most there, though I agree Bronson could look taller than his listed height at times.

Considering the fact there was a height listing of 5'11" flat on his medical record, and a 5'11.5" claim from his costume designer (who would have obviously measured him), I'm not seeing how this current listing works.
Harris said on 26/Sep/17
Tom can't be serious! Elvis wasn't under 5'11".
Mike 2 said on 25/Sep/17
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Here is Elvis with 5ft 10in Dave Hebler. Another almost barefoot photo ( Elvis has one sock on- maybe it’s to hide a lift!!)
Tom said on 25/Sep/17
Bronson was a notorious lift wearer. He also had one leg shorter than the other so perhaps without shoes he was 5'7'' on one leg and 5'8'' on the other.😂
Tom said on 24/Sep/17
Mike 2, Kirk Douglas claimed to be 5'11''. He was more like 5'8''. Peter Sellers' wife Brit Ekland claimed Sellers was 5'11''. Sellers was more like 5'8''. Tyrone power claimed he was 6' yet it's obvious watching his films he was around 5'10". My point is people inflate heights. I guess it's human nature. Nobody wants to be known as being short except really short people. For them there's no reason to lie. If Danny Devito claimed he was 5'6'' we'd all have a good chuckle.
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Sep/17
@MJKoP: Seems we're close here as I think the range has to be the range of his medical records with 5'11" the low and 6' the high, so I think 5'11.5" would be the safest guess.

@Tom: I can't see the 5'7" stuff for Bronson. I'm almost positive a 65 year old Bronson was taller than 5'8.5" Chuck Norris: Click Here and a 69 year old Bronson was definitely taller than 5'8" Sean Penn: Click Here Click Here Bronson looks like he may have a bit extra heel, but the front of the shoe would look different if he had a big internal lift. A supposedly 5'8" Dennis Hopper looks shorter than both, but I think Hopper was more 5'7.5" or so. But even if I'm right about Bronson at 5'9", I still don't see Elvis above 5'11"-5'11.5" range with him. Certainly, a 5'7" Bronson would suggest Michael Winner was more like 5'7" than 5'9" as well.

@Mike 2: It's important to remember not everyone is precise with fractions when it comes to height either. Most I know don't include 1/4" and some don't even include half inches, but rather round to the nearest inch. Although I don't think Elvis was taller than 5'11.5" myself, if he was 5'11.75" as listed here for arguments sake, most would probably call that 6' anyway. Many wound round 5'11.5" to 6' as well. And not everyone can tell the difference visually either. I think it's silly to say disregard anything where they happen to have shoes as well. 95% of the comparisons available will be with shoes. Imo, it'd be foolish to base an estimate on just one comparison. Besides, shoes are only one variable and typically the easiest to estimate. Posture, ground level and camera angles are all constant factors and can be much more difficult to estimate. For instance, if you see a pair of cowboy boots, you can say the heel is likely about 1 3/4", which will give perhaps 1 5/8" in actual height over bare feet. Angles, posture and ground can't really be quantified like that.
Mike 2 said on 23/Sep/17
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Here is a prime example of why photos in shoes can’t be relied upon. I am not 100% sure but I believe that Johnny Cash in his prime was 6ft 1.5ins, so in boots he could have been as tall as 6ft 3in.
The photo in which Elvis is in a tux and most probably normal shoes is usually the one shown, but in this JC is in a western outfit

and most probably wearing high heeled cowboy boots.
The other less seen photo of EP and JC shows them to be of similar height, so JC wasn’t much taller, if any, it’s just that people see one photo and assume things.
Tom said on 23/Sep/17
Bronson was about 5'7''. I watched Kid Galahad. They obviously used angles and tricks to adjust everyone's height. Problem besides making short actors appear taller is simply getting them into the frame. People have different heights. Imagine you're directing a movie with an actress who's barely five feet where she does a standing love scene with an actor who's well over six feet. The actress has to stand on a box, otherwise all we'd see in the frame is the tall actor. Gig Young was 6'1''. In most shots he and Elvis look to be the exact same height. But if we look at photos of Elvis with people who are 6'1" such as Johnny Cash, Elvis is shorter.

As for this character Glenn, I think spending time discussing him is a waste of time. He sounds like a total flake.
Mike 2 said on 23/Sep/17
We will have to agree to disagree, if Ed Parker had been 5-10 when I met him then I would be with you, but I can’t, he was 6ft.
Have you viewed the New Gladiators film Tom? I’m trying to offer other examples here where Elvis is barefoot. I don’t understand the obsession with film or photos which have everyone wearing all sorts of different footwear.
I think we have to be careful not to be disrespectful to people such as Col Parker’s widow who has nothing to gain, just like Linda Thompson.
Once again whenever evidence is put forward for the 6ft argument, the comments are simply dismissed saying that these people have simply inflated the heights of their husbands/ partners. These people knew them better than us! I
MJKoP said on 22/Sep/17
@Rising - You seriously crack me up. I'm sure Rob read my comment before replying to Tom's on the 13th...yeah, the whole witchcraft thing I found to be quite odd. Shows how easy it is to fool some people, I guess.

I also see Bronson as at least a strong 5'9". Elvis looks to be a weak 6'0" tops in comparison. I personally see under 5'11" as an impossibility, but maybe Tom is onto something.
Rising - 174 cm said on 20/Sep/17
Why did I talk to Glenn for several years and have no idea he believed in things like casting spells? Maybe after he measured 5'6.5", he found someone to cast a spell that made him 5'8" and that's why he disregards the measurement? Does Glenn not consider there were witnesses to Hitler's final days as well? In fact, we even have accounts of his top men trying to convince him to leave Berlin while Hitler obviously insisted on staying. If a few affidavits convince him, how about affidavits signed by Rob and Jenny swearing Glenn measured 5'6.5" without shoes...would affidavits still be compelling to him? ;)

As for Elvis' height, it's a fair point about shoes, but what about Charles Bronson? He wore flat boxing shoes with Elvis: Click Here And the height difference is never much more the 2" in the film. These stills are pretty representative: Click Here Click Here Keep in mind I believe Bronson was 5'9", but many think he's shorter. Rob has him 5'8.5" and many others believe he was only 5'7"-5'8". I can see Elvis 5'11", maybe 5'11.25" with Bronson, but no more. And remember, this was a film Elvis starred in.
Tom said on 19/Sep/17
Then Milton Berle was six feet. And Steve Allen was 6'5''.

Quit frankly I don't buy it.

As for Col. Parker's widow's claim on his height, I hear lots of people inflate heights. And even by several inches. So I go by photos as well as watching movies and TV.
Mike 2 said on 18/Sep/17
Hi Tom,
Did you know that Col Parker's widow described him as being 6 ft tall!
Elvis with his large heels would have made him a good 6ft 2in in these types of boots, so I don't get the point you are trying to make. On stage Elvis stood around this same height, it's never really been disputed.
Like I said it was the fashion, even though Elvis liked wearing low heeled loafers.
My point is that you can't argue with barefoot comparisons, and surely you have to agree with this?
It's up to you if you don't accept my view about Ed Parkrt's height,
but I am telling you he was six foot tall, and yes I believe that Elvis had a slight edge which would bring him in just over 6 ft, just like Linda Thompson has said!!
Ed Parker is described on the internet as being 6 ft tall and surely from your observations of these photos you have viewed you could tell that he was definitely over 5 ft 10 ins!!
Even in the 50's Elvis was described as being tall and lanky and referred to as being taller than imagined by journalists when they met him. How tall did they think he was- 5 ft 7ins??
When Elvis says that he is six foot it is not disputed, and one journalist has him down as 6ft 2ins, so Elvis was not it appears exaggerating.
I am pleased that you think that Ed Parker was the same if not shorter than Elvis as this confirms to me that Elvis was indeed 6ft tall. I have met other friends of Elvis, and looked at photos of these people with Elvis, but the difference is that they have shoes or boots on. So I disregarded these photos, just like Berle and Allen.
Have a look at the New Gladiators film on YouTube and look at the film of Elvis doing Karate both in boots and bare feet , and see him next to 5ft 10 in Bill superfoot Wallace, and 5 ft 10 in Dave Hebler.
At least we are discussing the height of Elvis instead of talking aboutGlen whoever and other ' Mumbo jumbo'
All the best Tom.
Tom said on 15/Sep/17
"Forget all this Steve Allen and Milton Berle stuff"

Why? We know Steve Allen was quite tall and Milton Berle was 5'10". I have no proof Ed Parker was six feet. Only what you claim. I've looked at dozens of photos of Parker. In some he appears an inch shorter than Elvis.

And lots of photos taken of Elvis show him wearing shoes or boots that increased his height by at least two inches.

Early in his career before he wore such footwear he looked shorter. Just compare photos of him with Col. Parker. In the 1950's Elvis is the same height. Then into the 1960's Elvis is two to three inches taller. I doubt Col. Parker lost that much in height. In 1957, Col. Parker was 48. In 1966 he was 57. Too young to have lost two to three inches. There are lots of photos taken early on in his career showing Elvis with people who he either appears to be the same height or shorter while later shots show him being taller.
Mike 2 said on 13/Sep/17
Hi Tom, Elvis in the early years does look shorter, I agree but how do we know that the others weren't wearing lifts and built up shoes.
Perhaps you can answer this- how come a barefoot Elvis is the same height as a barefoot and 6 ft tall Ed Parker? Out of these two examples which one is the easiest to prove ?
Forget all this Steve Allen and Milton Berle stuff, surely it's far easier to compare Elvis to Ed Parkers height as they are both in bare feet?
What could be easier?
The answer is six foot and I know this because I've met Parker, just like thousands of other people have, and he was known as a 6 ft fighter decades before this site.
Have a look at images online to gauge Parker's height so that you can compare to get an idea. There are some with 5ft 7in - 5ft 8in Bruce Lee, and although it looks as though shoe wear is worn,Parker dwarfs Bruce.
Just for information the photo of Elvis and Lee is a fake , Elvis was really standing next to a Wayne Carmen.
There are many barefoot photos of Elvis but the one with Parker offers the best for comparison. Yes, Elvis wore two inch heels in the 70's , but so did I and everyone else, it was the fashion.
To try and balance things out I think I am right in saying that just about everyone interested in how tall Elvis was agrees that he was no shorter than 5-11 but I respect your opinion. TCB
MJKoP said on 13/Sep/17
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Sep/17
Wow, did Glenn really believe in that stupid Hitler/Argentina myth?

Yes...yes, he did. I was fb friends with him for many years, so I saw all of his status update alerts. He would always chime in on random UFO/paranormal/"cryptozoology" mumbo-jumbo. When it came to the Hitler escape theory, he offered that he had seen sworn affidavits from Argentinian residents. If anyone were to even gently challenge his notions, he'd blow a fuse like you wouldn't believe it - as most of us here already know all too well. "Guarded" isn't even a strong enough word to describe how I would have to handle myself whenever interacting with him.

I can now 100% confirm that he is mistaken in at least some of his beliefs because he also believed in casting spells, hexes, and I'd definitely be dead by now. :D
Tom said on 13/Sep/17
I have it on good authority with lifts Glenn topped three feet.
Editor Rob: be careful, else a spell may be cast upon you!
Mike 2 said on 13/Sep/17
Hi John 1, I'm sorry I don't know Jerry's official height, but he and Elvis were almost the same height. My problem with some of these photos is that we don't know the real heights of the other stars involved and they tend to be all wearing different footwear, and of course in movies all sorts of camera angles would be used.
There is no way that Elvis was 5ft 10 as an adult, but I see how people believe this when they see these early films. This is why I keep on banging the drum about full length bare foot photos, because height can't be disguised by lifts etc. Linda Thompson is a 5ft 9 ins former beauty queen, and karate master Ed Parker was 6 ft tall and it's clear to see that Elvis in bare feet was the same height as Parker and a few inches taller than Linda, who has nothing to gain by claiming that Elvis was 6ft 1in. She might be rounding up the possible 6ft .05 figure, but why should we ignore this, especially from a person who lived day in and day out with Elvis. She didn't exaggerate Bruce Jenner's height in her book.
Like I previously said, sometimes in photographs you don't look as tall as you imagine, and I'm sure that we have all thought this at one time, but look at the barefoot photos of Elvis and you will be able see that he was tall and in the six foot region, and definitely taller than 5 ft 10in. All the best.
John 1 said on 12/Sep/17
Hi Mike 2 , do you know how tall was jerky shilling ?
The pic that Tom posted of Elvis and Glenn shows that t Elvis is maximum 510feet .
Tom said on 12/Sep/17
Mike, please explain why Elvis was the same height as Milton Berle. Or why if he was at least six feet was he several inches shorter than Steve Allen? Or Other actors who were definitely over six feet? I think early in his career he didn't wear lifts. Then as he got older he did wear them. In photos they are easy to spot. Boots with two-inch heels, possibly built up inside.
Tom said on 12/Sep/17
This Glenn character is like out of a bad comedy movie. I had no idea such a person existed for real. Kind of sad really. But still a funny commentary by the moderator. What was Glenn thinking? If he was shorter than he advertised, then how on earth could he pull it off if he had to meet with the forum moderator?
Mike 2 said on 11/Sep/17
The plot thickens! According to Linda Thompson Elvis was 6ft 1ins and in July 1972 weighed a slender 165-170 lbs. Elvis certainly was in good shape for his August '72 stint at the Hilton, and Linda correctly refers to her Husband to be Bruce Jenner as 6ft 2ins, so why can't she be correct when mentioning Elvi's height.
Linda lived with Elvis for almost 5 years, and she herself stands st 5ft 9 ins , so she can speak with an authority on the subject.
It makes me smile when I keep on seeing these waist up film shots when who knows what lifts the other actors were wearing. Elvis in these early films was playing a young kid, so could it have been filmed this way, so that Elvis looked smaller.
Once again people on here live in denial. We have Elvis in bare feet next to a six foot man and a 5ft 9 ins woman and it's so ovious to see that he was a six foot male. No lifts, no waist up shots or shoe wear. You don't need this stuff and it makes me laugh that when I give my honest view on Ed Parker's height, who we can see that in bare feet he was the same size as Elvis, people including Tom simply airbrush it, or casually ignore it because it doesn't suit, and then post a waist up shot which could have involved all types of shoe wear and camera angles. Believe me, I'm 6ft 1ins and in some photographs I don't look that tall,even walking down the street there are plenty of people who are taller than me. 6 feet although classed as tall isn't huge. TCB
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Sep/17
Wow, did Glenn really believe in that stupid Hitler/Argentina myth? Look, I don't dismiss all conspiracies until I've at least read or heard the case--except for the truly outlandish like Elvis somehow being alive--but I don't know of any serious Hitler/WW2/Third Reich scholar who believes that. That was mostly fueled by Soviet propaganda and Soviet propaganda was probably the most unreliable in history until North Korea the last few decades. Other than that, it's a stupid marketing ploy used by the History Channel along with other sensationalist angles they argue weakly and then concede at the end of the program that it's not true while offering no new information. It kind of annoys me as someone with such an interest in history, particularly that period and Germany. Maybe I'm being unfair, but I highly doubt Glenn even knows much about Hitler.

As for Frank2, I'm 100% sure KnowItAll was him, I believe Steve is/was a better disguised version, but I'm not sure about Tom, who seems a decent enough poster either way regardless of the fact that I personally don't believe Elvis could have been less than 5'11". But I'll take Tom's word at face value as I'd have to see a pattern like the other aliases on other pages. Not that any of this is important.

Of course, if Glenn had been old enough to meet Elvis, how tall would The King have been? 6'1.5"?
Tom said on 10/Sep/17
Elvis with Wendell Corey who was around 6'1.5''. Click Here
Slim said on 10/Sep/17
MJKoP said on 4/Sep/17
MJKoP said on 1/Sep/17
Tom said on 30/Aug/17
I found a photo of Glenn with Elvis. Click Here

LOL, good one! It actually wouldn't shock me one bit if G thinks Elvis is still alive...he bought into pretty much every conspiracy theory imaginable. For example, he truly believed Hitler died in Argentina at the age of 95!!
Editor Rob: it's true, Hitler, the Abominable Snowman and Moth-man all lived in the picturesque Pueblo de Falsificaciones

....with a lakeside view of the Loch Ness Monster.
If Glenn was still secretly active in this site, who would you guess him to be?
Editor Rob: I wouldn't have a clue.!
MJKoP said on 4/Sep/17
MJKoP said on 1/Sep/17
Tom said on 30/Aug/17
I found a photo of Glenn with Elvis. Click Here

LOL, good one! It actually wouldn't shock me one bit if G thinks Elvis is still alive...he bought into pretty much every conspiracy theory imaginable. For example, he truly believed Hitler died in Argentina at the age of 95!!
Editor Rob: it's true, Hitler, the Abominable Snowman and Moth-man all lived in the picturesque Pueblo de Falsificaciones

....with a lakeside view of the Loch Ness Monster.
Tom said on 3/Sep/17
I read the article on Glenn and found it extremely amusing. What a character!

Steve Allen was supposed to be 6'3'' but in this photo he looks a good four to five inches taller than Elvis. Click Here

So either Allen was near or at 6'5'' or Elvis wasn't anywhere near 6', much less 5'11''. And check out the shoes on Elvis in that photo. Compare them to Allen's. Lifts?
PPPeter said on 2/Sep/17
5ft 11.75in his top !
5ft 11.5in is good for him ;)
MJKoP said on 1/Sep/17
Tom said on 30/Aug/17
I found a photo of Glenn with Elvis. Click Here

LOL, good one! It actually wouldn't shock me one bit if G thinks Elvis is still alive...he bought into pretty much every conspiracy theory imaginable. For example, he truly believed Hitler died in Argentina at the age of 95!!
Editor Rob: it's true, Hitler, the Abominable Snowman and Moth-man all lived in the picturesque Pueblo de Falsificaciones
Tom said on 30/Aug/17
I found a photo of Glenn with Elvis. Click Here
Mike 2 said on 30/Aug/17
Forgot to mention that ithe exhibition is being held at the 02 and tickets are now on sale.
Mike 2 said on 30/Aug/17
For anyone living in the U.K., there will be a new exhibition between November and February called Elvis on Tour which is apparently going to feature about 40 original jumpsuits and other articles from the 70's. It will probably be worth visiting, and will also allow a close up of his stage height and footwear, although the last one didn't have any heads on the mannequins, but it will still give you an idea.
MJKoP said on 29/Aug/17
Tom said on 29/Aug/17
By the way who is Glenn? I feel like Cary Grant in North by Northwest where he's mistaken for Kaplan. I don't know a Glenn, much less despise one. MJKop, I think you're suffering from hallucinations.

Fair enough. Perhaps it was all just one giant mix-up. Go to the "Height Articles" section and select "The Big Grapple" for a brief(relatively speaking) synopsis on G:The celebheights legend who only needs one single solitary letter. :P
Tom said on 29/Aug/17
By the way who is Glenn? I feel like Cary Grant in North by Northwest where he's mistaken for Kaplan. I don't know a Glenn, much less despise one. MJKop, I think you're suffering from hallucinations.
MJKoP said on 28/Aug/17
Frank2: No more trolling from me, I'm going to speak to you - man to man.

I don't have any real issues with you. I know you despised Glenn, and you understandably despised me too, for coming to his aide all those times, but in case you haven't been kept abreast, I now dislike Glenn more than probably everyone here combined. I realize that I've been quite the jackass and somewhat under Glenn's spell, but believe you me, I'm now permanently cured of that!

I'd like to apologize to you for whenever I lashed out and made you feel not welcome here. Our opinions on height may differ, but that doesn't mean I have anything against you personally. I know you were involved in the industry for many, many years and you gave us some truly astounding first-hand non-height-related stories and anecdotes about legends spanning numerous decades; some tales that were truly priceless from a true insider.

I'm aware that you exited in a huff, due to disrespectful people like myself(primarily), and I also recognize that you claimed you were never returning, so if this is all about pride and/or fear of me ridiculing you, I ask you humbly to please drop it...what you did was understandable, and nobody is going to judge you for wanting to get back in on the fun! I won't say "told ya so", or anything of the sort.

However, making multiple pseudo-comebacks with a variety of usernames(KnowItAll, Steve, Tom, et al), is kinda pointless because we know who you are, and the repeated denials of your true identity just aren't very flattering, to be frank(excuse the expression!)

Can we please have the triumphant return of the Frank2 that we all knew and loved?? You really added a lot to celebheights, and if you got past whatever irrational fear or stigma you might have of showing your face, er, name(?) around here, I think it could be a really wonderful thing.

Despite what you may believe, I really did(and still do!) admire you, and for a lot of different reasons.

As far as I know, Rob never banned you, so you have nothing at all to lose from "officially" returning, and literally everything to gain - including a lot more respect from myself and the many other Frank2 fans who miss you and still visit this site. It may very well even bring some other old timers back out of the woodwork, or encourage some of the fading original members to increase their activity!

I'll try not to keep hounding you if you want to keep up the "Tom" charade(you have a right to your privacy), but please....please try to let my words of sincerity sink in, and reconsider.

Best of regards, to you.

-ACG/MJKoP and most of the audience
MJKoP said on 28/Aug/17
Tom said on 25/Aug/17
MJKoP, read what I wrote. I never said Elvis was real and genuine. I said he was a true star based on his talent.

Well, we were previously discussing how legit these "stars" were on the pretense of their height claims, so it would be only logical for me to deduct...well, let me just quote you directly:

Tom said on 24/Aug/17
I will say Elvis was a true star. Not a fake one like we see today.

Last time I checked, real was the opposite of fake. You never mentioned talent as a factor it seems as though you're now just backpedaling.

And of course, we've established many times over that talent really has nothing to do with either height NOR honesty.
Slim183 said on 26/Aug/17
5'11" barefoot,

With boots is a long story.....
Tom said on 25/Aug/17
MJKoP, read what I wrote. I never said Elvis was real and genuine. I said he was a true star based on his talent.
Denis said on 25/Aug/17
Steve are you still around? I agree with you 100%
Slim 182 cm said on 25/Aug/17
I wouldn't argue below 180.

182 is a stretch, I doubt elvis would've been eye to eye with travis fimmel and grant Gustin.
MJKoP said on 24/Aug/17
Tom: You didn't happen to meet The King of Pop at a recording studio in 1988, per chance...did you???
Slim183 said on 24/Aug/17
Strong 5'11".
MJKoP said on 23/Aug/17
Tom said on 23/Aug/17
I was wrong. It's probably more like 90% BS.

Why couldn't you just have stopped after the first sentence?
Tom said on 23/Aug/17
I was wrong. It's probably more like 90% BS.
MJKoP said on 23/Aug/17
And how tall do you think Michael Jackson was....."Tom"?
MJKoP said on 23/Aug/17
Tom said on 22/Aug/17
Frank2? Who?

As for what people claim, I think 3/4ths of what show biz people claim is pure BS.

If Elvis lost his pigmentation, he must have suffered from vitiligo, the same disease Michael Jackson had. Two kings with the same disease! What are the odds?!!

Steve, there is SKIN pigmentation and HAIR pigmentation...of course, the former is much rarer and can be classified as vitiligo(as MJ suffered from), but the latter is almost inevitable when it comes to getting older. Elvis was only 42 when he passed, yet those preparing his body said they had to improvise and used black eyeliner as hair dye to conceal his pure white roots before the public viewing at Graceland.

And he never had jet black hair to begin with, he was a natural blond and for almost all of his life, he compulsively dyed his hair into those jet black locks which became one of his trademarks.

I'm familiar with a lot of random and fascinating celeb-related trivia, but I don't ever claim to KnowItAll. ;)

And I'd love to know how you arrived at that 75% statistic of BS claims in showbiz....sounds like a BS claim in of itself. :D
Tom said on 22/Aug/17
Frank2? Who?

As for what people claim, I think 3/4ths of what show biz people claim is pure BS.

If Elvis lost his pigmentation, he must have suffered from vitiligo, the same disease Michael Jackson had. Two kings with the same disease! What are the odds?!!
MJKoP said on 21/Aug/17
Tom said on 18/Aug/17
People claim Parker was 6'. But is there any conclusive proof?

I stand by my belief Elvis was no more than 5'10 1/2". In Love Me Tender he was around the same height as actor Bill Campbell who was 5'10''. And Elvis looked shorter next to Richard Egan who was 6'.

One thing I've always wondered was why towards the end of his life did Elvis appear to wear a thick black wig. Was he suffering from thinning air? He did have a thick head of hair when he was younger.

What's up, Frank2? The lowest of low bare BARE minimum he could've been was 5'11.5", as described by his costume designer. But most likely he was Rob's listing, if not that full, coveted six feet. I would say max 6'0.5".

As for his hair, his close confidants divulged that The King hadn't *lost* any hair upon his death in '77, but that it HAD lost all pigmentation...and I mean ALL. As in literally snow white. He had been dyeing his locks for quite some time, apparently.
Mike 2 said on 20/Aug/17
Hi Tom, Ed Parker is listed as being 6 ft, and having met him face to face I can confirm this, we were eye to eye, Ed was in formal shoes and I was wearing training shoes. If Elvis was 5ft 10.5, then so was Ed Parker, which would make me 5ft 11.5, however I am 6ft 1in.
Tom said on 18/Aug/17
People claim Parker was 6'. But is there any conclusive proof?

I stand by my belief Elvis was no more than 5'10 1/2". In Love Me Tender he was around the same height as actor Bill Campbell who was 5'10''. And Elvis looked shorter next to Richard Egan who was 6'.

One thing I've always wondered was why towards the end of his life did Elvis appear to wear a thick black wig. Was he suffering from thinning air? He did have a thick head of hair when he was younger.
Denis said on 18/Aug/17
my guess he was 179cms in the evening and 181cms in the morning put him in army boots and you get 184cms he was not as tall as you all think because if you look at the photo of him and ali, he is at least 3 inches shorter than ali and he's not standing there barefoot he would have boots on for sure if he was 6 foot even and 2 inch heel boots he would almost be the same height as ali but he is clearly 3 inches shorter in that pic 5 11'' at his tallest and 5 10 half inch at night check out the picture with 6 foot jack lord he looks an inch or so shorter so for mine he is no way 6 feet barefoot 5 11 at best but no more
Amaral said on 17/Aug/17
Hello Tom
I agree with you about Berle at the same time there is a pic of Elvis and Ed Parker side by side in barefoot and they have the same height and Mike 2 told me that Ed is 6"
Who should I believe ?
Have u ever search in the web to get a pic of Ed and somebody else who Has his height ?
Im trying to do this but it is dificullty
Rising - 174 cm said on 17/Aug/17
@Mike 2: I appreciate your comments and the way you make your arguments, but personally, I've always been skeptical of most anecdotes of late growth spurts. The average man reaches their full height by age 18, but obviously it varies as it won't be uncommon to finish growing as early as 15 while others do grow to 21. There are rare exceptions of growth to 25 or so, but it's outside the norm. It typically seems to be someone like Ralph Macchio who seems to effectively be a teenager ten years later. In Elvis' case, he looked pretty grown to me, not like a Ralph Macchio, Leo DiCaprio type, but I do agree with you and Tom that he seemed taller than he did in the 50s. However, I think this is most likely footwear. That's the most common reason someone seems to grow in their 20s. Whether it was just the Cuban type heels he started wearing or whether the lift rumors or true is something I don't know. Elvis may very well have been taller than 5'11". but for the reasons stated, I'd personally be surprised if he was taller than 5'11.5". One thing is for sure, this will remain a mystery. At least Rob reopened the comments on this page. But I do see why you take note of Elvis' height being mentioned without shoes, but surely the other costume designer who claimed Elvis was 5'11.5" was referring to him without shoes as well because I think most of us will agree Elvis was taller than that with shoes.
Tom said on 16/Aug/17
It's like there were two Elvis Presley's. One in the 1950s who appeared to be no more than 5'10''. He was identical in height to Milton Berle. And Berle was 5'10". Berle was slightly shorter than Jerry Lewis in the Bellboy. They stand erect, side by side. Lewis looks half an inch taller.

Then we have Elvis who from the 1960s on who always looked tall. At least six feet.

So what's the answer?

Lifts. And camera angles. Plus Elvis was skinny until he gained a lot of weight in the 1970s. If Elvis was 5'10'' then lifts could easily make him over six feet. He weighed around 160 lbs.

Had Elvis looked two inches taller than Berle, I'd not be arguing his height. And in Love Me Tender as well as Jailhouse Rock Elvis looked no more than 5'10''.
Mike 2 said on 16/Aug/17
Hi Amaral, I like to think that we aren't arguing, and I think we have come to a natural conclusion. I'm sure that Rising-174cm will agree when I say that he isn't disputing that Ed Parker and Elvis were virtually the same height, he is just disputing that Ed was also 6ft, and he is obviously entitled to his opinion. I think we all have our views on this and I think that you and I are firmly in the 6 ft camp.
Forty years ago today we lost Elvis- how time flies! TCB
Amaral said on 15/Aug/17
Hello Mike 2
Why don't u stop arguing with Rising 174 and show him the pic with Elvis and Parker in barefoot .
And tell him to search in the web how tall was Parker ,
Mike 2 said on 15/Aug/17
Hi Rising-174cm
Thanks for your comments and for taking a look at the link. It's just interesting that this designer makes a specific reference to Elvis being 6ft without shoes, on the army medical notes it doesn't mention this.
Regarding shoe wear , Elvis took up to a US12 depending on the fit, he actually mentions his size 12's in a 1975 concert. The problem is that Elvis doesn't seem to be believed whatever he says. You can however see his shoes/ boots up close and I did put mine against his and they were at least the same size, and I take a UK 11.
So did he grow in his 20's? I have previously mentioned that in a Photoplay magazine printed just after Elvis passed away a reporter who followed Elvis throughout his career, and was on pretty good terms with him, described him as being taller when she met him after a few weeks of basic training. There are people who have themselves mentioned on this site that they grew up to the age of 25! However I don't want to go any further with that.
Personally I think that Elvis was bigger in reality than he looked on TV. Having been eye to eye with Ed Parker, who was in formal shoes and I am 6ft 1in, I can't see Elvis being 5ft 11 ins , but that's my opinion, and usually when asked I say that Elvis was around 6 ft tall. All the best.
Rising - 174 cm said on 13/Aug/17
@Mike 2: Thanks for the link. It's a valid reference, but Elvis just doesn't look as tall as a full 6 feet without shoes to me, unless, he got measured in the morning. But you mention discrepancies with the costume designer who said Elvis was 5'11.5", but they both measured Elvis with a 42" chest. A difference between a shoe size of 9 and 10 isn't enormous, especially since shoes fitting differently depending on the style can account for at least half a size itself. I believe a UK 9 is also roughly the equivalent of a US 10. We have a number of conflicting heights and measurements reported between 5'11", 5'11.5", 6'0" and 6'0.5". There's no way to know who did the most accurate measurement, or how long Elvis was had been awake at the time of each measurement. So it really comes down to which you think looks the most likely. Often, I think the more precise figure is the most convincing since so many people round. I can believe he was around 6'0" out of bed and would measure between 5'11"-5'11.5" later in the day, which would be normal height loss throughout a day.
Slim 182 cm said on 13/Aug/17
Guys, elvis didn't measure 6', maybe 5'11.5 at best, sticking to 181 guesstimate though. But 5'11 back in his days was really tall, wether as today, no offence to 5'11 guys but they don't give off a towering aura nor are complemented on their stature like 6'+ guys are.
Mike 2 said on 10/Aug/17
Click Here

Hi again Rising 174cm, here is the link to the Gold Suit with Nudie Cohn's measurements next to it and as you can see he specifically lists the height of Elvis as being 6ft in stocking feet without shoes. This is a very respected designer; what do you think?
Surely if Elvis had been 6 feet in shoes then he would have said so?
No ifs and buts here, just s factual statement by a respected designer who has actually listed a barefoot height measurement- how can this be dismissed ?
All the best.
Mike 2 said on 10/Aug/17
Hi Amaral, I'm sorry but I don't know whether that is BH or not in the film, but it's good viewing.

Hi Rising -174cm, if you look closely at the army photo I'm sure that Elvis is in his own footwear, as the guy behind him has his own shoes on, so the measurement wouldn't have been in army boots, if I'm correct. Also the reference to 6ft 1/2 ins is not listed anywhere official, it's a press entry, so who is it from and is definitely with shoes or not, it doesn't actually say, but rather you have to assume that it's withshoes because of the photo next to it. Like I have said, Elvis was measured several times during this induction.
What's your view on the gold suit reference to the barefoot height of Elvis- it's the only one we have seen, nothing else actually states barefoot or otherwise. This is the point I am trying to put across.
If you haven't seen it then please look back on this site as I have previously posted it.
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Aug/17
@Mike 2: I don't much about Elvis' feet so I can't really comment. But if true, then that is a cause for skepticism. Though is there a chance he means UK 9 rather than US 9? I ask honestly because you seem to have more knowledge on this than myself. However, I do happen to think 5'11.5" is believable. I personally can't see him any taller than that in bare feet. As for the photo, well I only know of one actual military measurement and that is the apparent photo of Elvis in underwear and boots with the caption saying he measured 6'0.5". I think it's a pretty reasonable assumption he was measured that time at 6'0.5" and in boots given the caption. I don't know of any other proven measurements other than that one 6'0.5" and the other 6'0" measurements with one 5'11". Otherwise, Rob would surely mention another measurement if there was enough proof. My theory is either that Elvis was rounded up from 5'11.5" to 6'0" for those and then maybe measured 5'11" at his low height, perhaps as an error or rounded down from 5'11.25". The other possibility I see would be that the 6'0" measurements were all in shoes and then the 5'11" measurement was the one barefoot measurement. Based on how tall Elvis looks to me before the years he wore big heels, I wouldn't be surprise if he was 5'11" in bare feet.

As for Parker, being listed at 6 feet does not necessarily make someone that height, otherwise, there'd be no debate on Elvis. In fact, there'd be no point in this site if listed heights were accurate. This includes athletes. At the very least, they're usually rounded to the nearest inch, so like I said, Parker could have been 5'11.5" and rather than list the half inch, they'd just round up to 6 feet. For instance, Chuck Norris has claimed to be 5'10", but he was described as 5'9" back in his own karate days, but in reality, I think he was more like 5'8.5" barefoot, just as Rob lists him. In short, I think Parker's height needs to be shown as 6'0" against at least several other people with known heights before we can use it to determine whether Elvis was in the 5'11" range or a full 6'0".

As of now, I think Elvis looked to short without heels with the people whose height I have an idea of with Berle, Bronson and Sinatra being a few examples. I do think the 5'11" listing in his medical records provides at least some food for thought as well. To be fair, I'll say there's a chance it was an error, but there's also a chance the other measurements were in shoes or not long after waking. I think we'll need some more information on that before we'll ever truly know.
Amaral said on 9/Aug/17
Hi Mike 2 how r u ?
Can you see in YouTube a video called " Rare colour footage of Elvis , meridian Mississipi , that's all right mama "
In this video we can see Elvis and guy wearing sunglasses , in the comments people say that guy could be Buddy Holly.
I search in the web and Holly was 6" .
Can you confirm this for me , because Elvis and this guy are the same height . And the year is 1955 and back then didn't use boots or hells .
Mike 2 said on 5/Aug/17
Hi Rising 174cm
Thanks for your comments, I will try and keep my response a bit shorter this time.
What are your views on the following;
You mention that Bill Belew has stated 5ft 11.5, but he then said in the same sentence that Elvis wore a size 9 shoe! We know that Elvis had much larger feet . So what else was he incorrect about?
What about the designer of the gold suit, why can't his measurements be accepted as being correct on here? Here we have a photograph which actually makes reference to a barefoot recorded height of Elvis. Doesn't this count for anything? Perhaps it is only the 6 ft height measurement which is incorrect ? What about the pant inseam or the collar measurement; are they ok ? I suspect that it would be posted everywhere if it showed 5ft 11.5, but like I said in my last post, it's just simply brushed aside- why?
Also, with regard to the army height measurements, we can't say that they were taken in boots because it doesn't say on the documents . However, if they were taken in boots then the one listing Elvis at 5ft 11ins would mean that Elvis was shorter than 5ft 10ins when taking at least a one inch heel into account, which is just as crazy as saying that Elvis was 6ft 2 in bare feet!
I know that we are debating something like 1/2-3/4 " , but what does it for me is that when I met Ed Parker he was virtually my height,100% taller than 5ft 11ins. I have been interested in heights for many years and have taken people's height hundreds of times and sadly could mostly guess accurately their height before taking it!
Ed Parker was 6ft tall, just like he was advertised in the Karate world years before being compared to Elvis. He and Elvis were the same height, the height that Elvis said he was in 1956, the height listed on his army records, driving licence, deputy application forms and the height recorded and listed by the gold suit designer. Like you said a half inch difference in estimation can make a difference, but that goes both ways!
Of course Elvis and Joe Esposito met during their service and not at the induction but as they served together I am sure that it was highly likely that they were measured at the same time, however I am skeptical about there being documentation in existence showing heights both with and without boots, but it would be interesting.
All the best and have a good day. TCB
Rising - 174 cm said on 5/Aug/17
I agree, Fisticuffs. Both the 6'1.5" and the 6' even from 1956. It is very possibly, arguably even likely he didn't mean to pass himself off 6'1.5" barefoot, but it is of interest and while I don't believe Elvis was taller than 5'11.5" barefoot, I do believe he could reach near 6'1.5" in some of those boots he wore.
Rising - 174 cm said on 4/Aug/17
@Mike 2: I appreciate your reply, as it's a thoughtful one, but I will say a few things. As I said in my previous post, I thought Elvis may have been claiming 6'1.5" in heeled boots since as we both said, that would be more relevant to the mic stand as he went on stage in those boots, not barefoot. As you see in my previous post, I did post the Hoffer interview, so we know Elvis was claiming 6 feet even in 1956, but I think that makes a 6'0.5" barefoot measurement more unlikely if Elvis even publicly admitted to being shorter. As for the 5'11.75", that's just Rob's estimate and some people may have just seen measurements mentioned at the top along with Rob's estimate and thought the precise figure meant it came from a measurement. I've seen celebheights linked on an Elvis forum discussing his height. For instance, Steve McQueen was measured at 5'9.5", but Rob gives him 5'9.75" so sometimes Rob leaves open the possibility there was a slight error in the measurenment. So we do have to view any unverified claims made on the internet about how tall Elvis measured with skepticism. I'd personally be shocked if Elvis measured 184 cm barefoot and 187 cm in those boots.

But if I'm right and Elvis was around 5'11.5" as the costume designer said, then most would round up to 6' anyway. Of course, some increase their height claims over the course of their careers so it's possible Elvis said 6'1.5" later to fit into people's larger than life perception of him, but it's also possible it was a claim meant to take into account his heels when talking about how tall the mic had to be. It's possible Elvis may have been more honest on a form he didn't think would be viewed by as many.

It's not a full pic, so it's fair to take it with a grain of salt, but Elvis looks like he may be just slightly taller than Lee Majors, who we know was only 5'11" since he admitted it: Click Here
Fisticuffs said on 4/Aug/17
@Rising - 174 cm, yeah he definitely did say "6'1.5". I think that quote should be added.
Mike 2 said on 3/Aug/17
Thinking about it, it's probably irrelevant trying to decipher the height Elvis claims on Desert Storm because if it is 6ft 1.5" he says, then it's obviously relating to his on stage height which we know was around 6ft 2".
There is in existence an interview with Elvis by Bob Hoffer in August 56 in which Bob states that he is impressed with EP's height and that he was taller than he imagined. When he asks Elvis his height, Elvis replies "even 6 Feet". This you can listen to quite easily and is in perfect quality. So if this is not believed then there is no point in debating anything else that Elvis himself says. I have also looked at a Shelby County Deputy application form from November 1974, signed by Elvis and what appears to be completed in the same handwriting, although I can't say for certain, and the height is listed as 6'. This was only two months later after Desert Storm and has I believe Elvis claiming to be the same height as when interviewed in 1956, so he wasn't; trying to pretend on this form that he was taller than 6 foot.
On numerous fingerprint forms available to view his height is listed as being 6ft 1 ins, but we don't know if this was rounded up by the person filling in the form, or whether Elvis was measured at all, but it does appear that Elvis was still happy to put down as being 6ft throughout his career.
I also have to point out that I have never seen the measurement 5ft 11 3/4" listed on any official documents. Where did this height come from. Some people say that it was from the army records, but all the army documents we see attached to this site state 6ft or or 72 ins, apart from one 5ft 11' recording. So, does anyone have a recorded army document stating 5 11 3/4 ?

In my previous message I made an error and meant to say the alleged height of Elvis in his army boots was 6ft 1 3/4 ins, and not 6ft 1.5 ins. This was apparently from Joe Esposito, and someone on a another site has stated that they have seen this army document, however I haven't seen it.
Also again the height 6ft 1/2 '' in boots ( army photo)- where did this come from? Not from any army record I believe, but perhaps a press report. It could have been referring to his height in his socks and because there is a press photo of Elvis being measured in his 'own footwear', the two are linked. I have posted on here previously another press report from when another reporter during the same period describes Elvis as being 6ft 1In!! So who is right?
Finally, why is it that whenever there is documentation proving that Elvis was indeed 6ft tall it is casually dismissed? I include virtually all the army records we have, and also the the Gold Suit designer who lists all the measurements next to the photograph of himself with Elvis in the gold suit. I have previously posted this on here too. On this photograph it clearly reads for us all to see- height in stockinged feet- without shoe 6 feet!!
So if you don't believe this man, the United States Army and also the 'man himself' then you will never be satisfied, because with all this documentation , most of which is official, Elvis will always be known as being a 6 foot male, and that's because he most probably was. All the best!-TCB
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Aug/17
Yes, we'll certainly have to agree to disagree because I never thought for a second it sounded like "foot". Slurring words or not, an "f" doesn't sound like a vowel. I heard the "three" afterwards quite clearly as well when he was referring to the mic I believe. I know others have heard 6'1.5" as well. I just came across a discussion from a decade ago on an Elvis' message board where a couple of other people hear him claim 6'1.5". Joe Esposito was not present when Elvis was measured. Your reference heights haven't been scrutinized enough to use them to determine Elvis' height to the half inch since neither have a page on this site. If both Parker and Hebler are merely a half inch shorter than you believe them to be, then you have Elvis at 5'11.5" based on how you see their height differences. On the other hand, I've never heard of Milton Berle wearing lifts and as I showed, Bronson had flat boxing shoes in that film. Sinatra is a possibility as he did wear lifts at times, but even if he had a 1" lift in his shoes(which doesn't quite add an inch to your height) then Elvis would still look more 5'11" range with him than 6', imo since Sinatra was no taller than 5'7.5". Berle would have to be significantly taller than we think he is for Elvis to be 6 feet with him and as it is, I'm in the minority estimating Bronson at a full 5'0".

There are plenty of people who have said Elvis was under 6' and in the 5'11" range as well. Hell, one of his measurements was 5'11". Maybe a low height on a bad day, but you'd certainly think his costume designer would have to know his height as well. I can't see why a 6' tall man would be rounded down to 5'11.5". If anything, most legit 5'11.5" men will be rounded up to 6'. The caption to the photo of his Elvis in boots was that he measured 6'0.5", so it's not unreasonable assumption he measured 6'0.5" in boots. Why would Elvis be in just his underwear, but still have boots if he wasn't getting measured? Rob doesn't mention any 6'1.5" measurement. I think Frank2's estimates varied in accuracy, but I don't believe he's a liar and he claimed he overheard Elvis admit he had just missed the 6' mark. Kurt Russell stated this as well. If you look it up, this story comes from a lot of people. Doesn't necessarily make it true, but it can certainly be said to cancel out the claims Elvis was 6' or taller.

Here in 1956, Elvis claims an even 6 feet: Click Here

Elvis may have been referring to his height in the heeled boots he wore at the time when he said 6'1.5", because that is all that's relevant when comparing him to the mic as he wasn't on stage barefoot. I've heard or read Elvis described as 6'2" before so I'm not surprised that at least to my ears, Elvis claimed 6'1.5".
Mike 2 said on 2/Aug/17
I've listened dozens of times on headphones and so we will have to disagree. Elvis was measured many times in the army with and without boots. The photograph you are referring to was a promotional shot. If you go back some way on this site there is a person who was Elvis in the army who confirmed this, and that Elvis was 6 feet.
Joe Esposito has stated that measurements were taken both with and without boots and in boots Elvis was 6ft 1. 5 and 6ft .05 barefooted
Also if you look at the Gold Suit designer photograph he actually lists his height as being 6 ft in bare feet . Bill Belew his jumpsuit designer has been known to give various rights when asked.
Regarding the barefoot photos I believe they offer a very good comparison as opposed to photographs in boots etc. There are plenty of photographs and film of Elvis barefooted. Not only his 60's films, but the 1974 karate film where you will see him next to 5ft 10 ins Dave Hebler, who by the way claims that Elvis was indeed 6 ft tall. There are plenty of others too with Ed Parker and it's absolutely obvious that he and Elvis were the same height.
Regarding Desert Storm Elvis couldn't pronounce his words at all if you listen to the whole show, even sounding drunk although we know that he didn't drink, so you won't get correct pronounciation.
Rising - 174 cm said on 1/Aug/17
We can never judge someone only by how they appear barefoot because we never seen someone barefoot enough times, but a measurement is better than an estimate and we know the Army Elvis measured 6'0.5" in boots. Elvis was clearly standing straight as well, therefor, he must have been under 6' and really, no taller than 5'11.5" barefoot, which not surprisingly, his costume designer also apparently measured him at. That'd be a hell of a coincidence and if Elvis were a solid 6 feet, Charles Bronson actually would have been about 5'10", which clearly isn't the case. You could say similar things about Milton Berle, Frank Sinatra etc.

I hear Elvis pretty clearly say 6'1.5" at 32 seconds: Click Here

An F sound would be different. It's pretty clear to me he's saying "Now look, I'm six one and a half" before saying six three and a half as a description after. I can't hear all the words around the six three and a half description he makes afterwards, but I've listened over and over and I'm definitely hearing a "one" and not a "foot", even if you just listen for a vowel, it's clear. Then try again and zero in on just an "f" sound and see if you hear it. If you just listened once, I could see how someone might hear it wrong, but listen a few times, try headphones and at least to my ears, it's 6'1.5".
Mike 2 said on 1/Aug/17
Forget about the boots and heels , just focus on the bare foot photos.
I also believe that Elvis claims to be, and I quote " now look I'm six foot and a half" and not 6 1.5 on the cd Desert Storm. If you listen to the whole show he slurs his words although his singing is quite clear.
Elvis standing bare foot next to 6 ft Ed Parker and being the same height, if not a fraction taller says it all for me.
Rising - 174 cm said on 29/Jul/17
I'd give a 1/4" or even give him the 5'11.5". Those boots could have been one inch and then he called the 6'1.5" in 2" heels, but some do round any fraction to a half. He does look like a 5'11" guy a lot earlier and then taller later when Cuban heels became fashionable.
Slim 182 cm said on 20/Jul/17
5ft11 give or take a quarter inch.
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Jul/17
I doubt these boots he wore for his 6'0.5" measurement added less than an inch: Click Here

That makes 5'11.25"-5'11.5" his most likely range. A strong 5'11" indeed. It would make sense if he was 5'11.5" since he could have arrived at that ridiculous 6'1.5" claim by using the 2 inch rule, or perhaps measured in some of his Cuban heels. The only thing that gives me pause and makes me think more 181 cm is he could look a flat 5'11" at best with Charles Bronson, Frank Sinatra and Milton Berle. But then the costume designer does verify 5'11.5" and the designer has all of Elvis' other measurements so I'd say that's slightly more likely.
Slim 181 cm said on 16/Jul/17
I take that back. Elvis was a strong 5'11. End of the mystery my friends!
Ted said on 15/Jul/17
A weak six footer.
Slim 181 cm said on 13/Jul/17
Surprised fans haven't rigged the votes to 6'0 or 6'1. the guy could of measured 180-182cm , and I don't know which is more likely, but imma take a lucky guess with 5'11.75.
RisingForce said on 7/Jul/17
Amaral, I'm not sure how tall Ed was, but one thing I'm sure about is Elvis was at least 2 inches shorter than the 6'1.5" he claimed to be.
Mike 2 said on 2/Jul/17
Hi Amaral, I have no idea about Milton Betle's height, but Ed Parker is listed as being 6ft tall and this was many years ago long before being compared to Elvis in height. If you search the web you will see for yourself. Like I said earlier I am 6ft 1 ins tall and was eye to eye with Ed when I met him, and he was wearing normal leather shoes,so I am convinced that Ed was indeed 6ft tall.
This is my opinion but like you say Elvis and Ed are the same height in bare feet, what other evidence is needed? All you need to do is verify Ed Parker's height , orLinda Thompson who is listed as 5ft 9ins.
For myself this is the best evidence , comparing Elvis to other stars who were wearing shoes etc and could have had all sorts of help such as lifts etc is completely a waste of time!
You can't lie with bare feet! If Ed Parker was 5 ft 10 ins then I would say that Elvis was that height but I can't because I know that Ed was 6 ft!!
I can't say anymore than that so I hope this helps Amaral TCB
Amaral said on 1/Jul/17
Hi Mike 2 how are you ?
Elvis is the same height of Milton Berle
And people say that Berle was 5 10"
I saw the pic u posted of Elvis and Ed
They really have the same height cause they side side in barefoot and you say that Ed is 6 "
So Berle is 6 "?
King of the hill 91 said on 28/Jun/17
182cm To 183cm peak
Mike 2 said on 25/Jun/17
Hi Amaral, Ed Parker is listed as being 6 ft tall which is the reason I posted that photo of him standing barefoot next to Elvis, who is also in bare feet . They are the same height. No need to look at shoes and possible lifts etc, the proof lies in barefoot photographs. If you read my earlier entries you will see that I have met Ed Parker and can say that in my opinion he was definitely 6 ft tall. Kind regards.

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