How tall is George Foreman

George Foreman's Height

6ft 3 (190.5 cm)

Former American heavyweight boxer. In The Washington Post (14/4/91) he said "I was 6-3 when I was champ.". He bumped his claim up a bit in 1999, saying "I'm 6 foot 4"

How tall is George Foreman
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People talk about [George] like he's a giant. Foreman is 6-2½ I'm 6-2½. Foreman is 217 [pounds] when he's in shape. I'm 214 when I'm in shape.
-- Ali in July 1974

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Average Guess (49 Votes)
6ft 3.15in (190.9cm)
Harry Sachs said on 3/Oct/19
Click Here Here is the good picture of George Foreman with the listed 6'4 1/2 Riddick Bowe.
Canson said on 2/Oct/19
@BoxingFan07: Holyfield was a 6’1” range guy. Rob met him and has a picture with him and he looked the same height as Will smith. Maybe the camera angle gave that impression but between Holyfield and Foreman at their peaks it would’ve been about a 1.5-2” difference imho. Holyfield also looked taller than Tyson by around 3” and Tyson looks 5’10” in person
Harry Sachs said on 1/Jul/19
@Boxing fan 07 you clearly just ignored my video with Holyfield standing right next to Foreman? Let me put up the link again. Click Here Go to the 1:55 mark. Foreman is clearly more than .5 inches taller than Holyfield.
Boxing fan 07 said on 18/Jun/19
I say Foreman is 6’3”. He looked 1.75” taller than Morrison. Even though he only looked .5” taller than Evander.
But I can’t picture him being under 6’3”. Just look at him with Frazier who is 5’11.5
Canson said on 17/Jun/19
@Jordan: peak heights may have Foreman the full 6’3 maybe 1/8” over and Norton a weak 6’3 6’2.5-.75. Ali May have dipped to 6’2.25
Harry Sachs said on 17/Jun/19
Lol Jordan87 you know George Foreman has his head titled down and Ken Norton has his head straight up?
Jordan87 said on 13/Jun/19
Harry Sachs.

Norton looks taller. Foreman has a big hair advantage there. Norton look taller in the picture you posted. Look at it again.
Harry Sachs said on 30/May/19
Click Here

Foreman and Holyfield back before they fought. Go to 1:55 in the video.
Harry Sachs said on 7/May/19
@Junior Hernandez 1990 Foreman is probably around 6'1 now.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 5/May/19
Unfortunately Jeff Dye only look at most 6'3.25" on Jimmy Fallon show.
Harry Sachs said on 23/Apr/19
Click Here

Here is the measured 6'2 3/4 Ken Norton and the 6'3 George Foreman
Tall In The Saddle said on 20/Apr/19
@Canson - Essentially the same stuff that I've already thoroughly addressed.

It takes some obvious nipping and tucking to keep GF at a flat 6'3" - and that's what I am still reading.

Why isolate only Ali's lowest ever listing to make room to assume even less when less isn't being assumed for the lowest ever listings for fellow athletes GF and LH? Why assume 6'3" (Ali's listing 99.9% of the time) to necessarily be a round up for Ali as opposed to a possible high?

Why isolate LH appearing taller than GF in some photos while ignoring the previously acknowledged fact that GF also appeared taller than LH in some photos too? Why first reject any height diff. in the Zaire face off and then only allow for just 2 cm max. "perhaps"? It all serves to keep a lid on GF at 6'3".

Ali was mainly listed at 6'3" - so much for those inclined to link one listing after another to present as so called weighted "evidence" of height - if that's the case then we can link almost every TOTP and reference otherwise for Muhammad to conclude that Ali MUST'VE BEEN 6'3", right? - well no, Ali wasn't a full 6'3". That height has now been reasonably reduced to 6'2.5" - based on just a few isolated reference points to that height - no reason to assume less - IF there is reason to assume even less for Ali based on the assumption of athlete measurements being made early - then that same rationale/assumption is not being applied in kind to the lowest ever 6'3" listings for GF and LH, is it? The treatment isn't even.

No reason to change here. Ali reasonably set at 6'2.5" - and appeared as such by most comparisons - GF held 1" advantage over Ali - perfectly exemplified in the Zaire face off - square shot, evenly framed, equal footwear, no deceiving angles, no camera advantage - that puts GF at about 6'3.5" peak - and even an older GF with less than perfect posture still broke even with 6'3.25" Conan O'Brien.
Harry Sachs said on 17/Apr/19
Click Here

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Here is a few pictures of Larry Holmes and Foreman back in the late 90's.
Canson said on 16/Apr/19
@Tallinthesaddle: there’s always room to assume less because the 6’2.5 was likely rounded to 6’3”. But 6’2.5 was a measurement he received at some point during the day. It’s not clear what time of the day. His passport stated that he’s 6’2.5 so that means he wasn’t over that mark and you also see above that he himself stated that he’s 6’2.5 214lbs meaning he measured that at some stage. Some stage could mean he woke up at 7 am and measured at 10 or even earlier. I’m going to assume that he’s not much less but I still don’t rule out 6’2.25 being Celebheights uses a normal low for the day. Most athletes measure earlier in the day. IMHO Ali looks similar to someone like Michael phelps who could be 6’2.25-.5 as well. And Harry Sachs made a great point. Ken Norton Sr measured 6’2.75. Norton is taller than Ali as well and shorter than Foreman by a hair. Again don’t know if that’s a low but I will assume he’s 6’2.5-.75. While Foreman could be a little bit over 6’3 and I don’t rule that out, a little bit above means 6’3 1/8 perhaps. Meaning he’s closer to 6’3” than 6’4”. I don’t even have him waking to 6’4”. He has always looked a proper 6’3” guy at a low whereas Larry Holmes also did. But as I mentioned, I’ve seen pics that suggest Holmes is taller which is likely posture related. Either way, I think Rob has GF listed appropriately. It matches what the person who I know has met him estimated him at.

My guesses:
Ali 6’2.25-.5 at a low
Norton 6’2.5-.75 at a low
GF and Holmes 6’3-6’3.25 max at a low

A guy falling inside of the 6’3-3.25 range is in essence a legit 6’3 guy
Tall In The Saddle said on 13/Apr/19
@Canson - I've seen numerous pics also and plenty of boxing vision on top of that. Ali's listing of 6'2.5" is on the money at the very least - again already .5" down from Ali's popularly listed height of 6'3" - no reason to assume any lower. The faceoff vision in Zaire is as good as it gets - GF has a clear 1" adv. - and I've read a number of people seeing it the same way as me.
Canson said on 12/Apr/19
Foreman actually does not even look as tall as guys like Buster Douglas or even Holmes in some pics but the latter due to better posture. I genuinely believe he was a legit 6’3” like Rob lists him which would make him probably close to 6’4 out of bed and perhaps 6’3 1/4-1/2 if he received an early morning measurement.
Canson said on 11/Apr/19
@Tallinthesaddle: in pics I’ve seen which are numerous he is not over 6’3”. This includes with Larry Holmes, Riddick Bowe, Ali and many others. Ali measuring or listing 6’2.5 again does not mean that’s his low and GF does not have an inch on Ali.
HarrySachs said on 11/Apr/19
Click Here Here is a tale of the tape between Foreman and Ken Norton. George Foreman was 24 here and was listed at 6'3
HarrySachs said on 9/Apr/19
@Canson there is no point in keep trying to explain this to @Tallinthesaddle either he is a troll or he is one of those people who can't be told. As you stated and others stated Ken Norton was 6'2 3/4 according to him and George Foreman was only slighter taller. Here is the video of Foreman vs Rocky Sekorski again doing Foreman's comeback. Foreman is listed at 6'3 and 244. Foreman was 38 here.

Click Here 0:42 time stamp.
Tall In The Saddle said on 9/Apr/19
@Canson - I don't doubt that the person you know genuinely perceived 6'3". Problem is there are numerous similar testimonies that also claim 6'3.5-6'4" by people who claim to be in a similar height range.

Also if one believes that Ali's perception was genuine (I don't) when he said that he and GF were the same height then we can perhaps accept at least that a .5" difference might not be discernible in an informal face to face without a formal comparison - but then as I have said before Ali was able to view Eastwood as taller face to face - I saw no more than .5" between them if that - and I don't think Eastwood was taller than Foreman at all - IMO Clint being no more than 6'3" peak and perhaps a shade less.
Canson said on 7/Apr/19
@Tallinthesaddle: according to a person who I know that has met him in his prime he was nothing more than a classic 6’3”. The person who met him was 6’3 as well
Tall In The Saddle said on 6/Apr/19
@Canson - In stating that he and GF were the same height Ali was simply trying to offset the general (and correct) perception that GF was clearly the bigger man (size and height) - that was the context. Ali often talked himself up beyond the facts - filtering out anything that could chip his confidence -

Ali specifically avoided watching GF hit the heavy bag in Zaire - who would want to see GF denting the bag as he did before fighting the man?. I doubt very much that Ali believed he and GF were the same height - Eastwood for example barely had .5" on Ali IMO but Ali still noted Clint as being taller - and IMO GF was that bit taller again.

The height advantage GF held over Frazier in face offs was obviously greater than Ali held over Joe.

Again I don't see why we would muse over Ali being even lower than his lowest ever listed height of 6'2.5" - a height that I think reconciles with most reasonable comparisons and already .5" less than his popularly listed height of 6'3".
Chucky said on 5/Apr/19
I met George 30 years ago, I am 6 feet 4 and he was easily as tall as me. I suspect he has shrink an inch as we all do
Canson said on 1/Apr/19
@Tall in the Saddle: the most I can see is 2cm perhaps. Even then it’s not shrinking Ali to accommodate anyone because Ali has also admitted to the two being the same height so he must suspect that they’re pretty close in height. And if Ali measures 6’2.5 at some point he may be less if including a low. I won’t completely rule out 6’3 1/8 perhaps for a peak Foreman but much more I would.
Sonny Black said on 1/Apr/19
Most people aren’t gonna agree with this estimation but I got Foreman under 6’3, I think Ali was 6’2 flat and Foreman was about 6’2.75inches.
Tall In The Saddle said on 31/Mar/19
@Canson - thanks. I don't think they look the same at all. Foreman is clearly the taller of the two - in my estimate by 1". Also, Foreman does not have camera advantage - both men are facing (one another) at an almost perfect 90 deg. to the line of the centred camera view - if anyone is closer it is Ali ever so slightly.

I don't know that I would shrink Ali anymore than 6'2.5" to accommodate George being a flat 6'3" - Ali was popularly listed at 6'3" and has already be downgraded by .5" which I think is probably fair because I always suspected Ali wasn't quite the full 6'3" - and at 22 yo Ali was orig. listed 6'2.5" for the first Liston fight.

Also as to whether 6'2.5" was Ali's true low at peak - well, listings/official records for everyone else could be questioned similarly if we feel what we think we see somehow doesn't fit.

As to Ali's passport listing him at 6'2.5":- I checked online and came up with 3 passports -

one that Ali used between 72-74 listing him at 6'3":-Click Here

Another issued 1974 listing 6'2.5" - which was used for both Zaire and Manilla Click Here

and finally this passport used between 76-81 which listed him at 6'3" - Click Here.

I guess passport heights are merely quoted to the authorities but at least statistically in that regard 6'2.5" represents Ali's "low" - checked for a GF passport but came up nix.
Canson said on 30/Mar/19
@Harry Sachs: he’s always looked a legit 6’3”. He and Holmes were the same height peak. They definitely were not as tall as Riddick Bowe who was probably 6’4.5ish. He had probably a good 1.5”
Canson said on 30/Mar/19
@Harry Sachs: he’s always looked a legit 6’3”. He and Holmes were the same height peak
Canson said on 29/Mar/19
@Tall in the Saddle: they look the same in the video. Foreman has camera advantage but maybe the 1/2”. That’s also assuming Ali was really 6’2.5 at a low in his peak. 2cm and 1” could be hard to differentiate just from the video
Tall In The Saddle said on 28/Mar/19
@Canson - Disagree. For one thing IMO GF had 1 inch on Ali (listed here as 6'2.5") - as evidenced in general and best by this specific vision of the Zaire face off which is in fact perfect for comparing the two men - see 14 sec mark - Click Here. If anyone disagrees please tell me what difference they see.
HarrySachs said on 28/Mar/19
Tall in the Saddle didn't you just type that before? Then I put up links to videos of Foreman in in his prime being listed at 6'3 and then I put up videos of when Foreman first came back and he was still listed at 6'3.
Canson said on 23/Mar/19
IMHO 6’3.5 looks too tall. I think he would measure 6’3 maybe 6’3 1/8 peak. Rob has the listing perfect
Tall In The Saddle said on 21/Mar/19
IMO GF was 6'3.5" peak - there was no better opportunity to compare GF to Ali than the pre fight instruction/face off in Zaire. Perfectly framed equal footwear. Foreman held a solid 1" advantage over Ali who we have since established was 6'2.5" (not 6'3").

GF was actually described at both 6'3.5" and 6'4" (IMO the latter fig. a round up) during his first career, not just during his second career.

Like a number of 70s HWs who were obviously all not an exact 6'3" (Ali, Norton, Lyle, Al Blue Lewis etc.) -GF eventually got rubber stamped at that height.

Upon his second coming I think GF might've revisited the "round up" figure of 6'4" from the 70s because by the time GF returned in '87 HWs were that little bit taller on average - including a good number of actual 6'4" guys proliferating the scene - GF had to remain size relevant - he had the weight covered so a little tweak in height was the order of the day.

I think the only that thing that "grew" on George from 77 to 87 was his nose. Lol.
texluh said on 6/Mar/19
The two quotes at the top are interesting. I lived, breathed and slept boxing history in the 80s and I can tell you one thing about each quote.

In 1987 when Foreman came back, there was an article in The Ring or KO where Foreman talked about what happened between 77 when he retired (aged 29) and 87 when he came back: "I grew an inch taller and my feet got bigger"....... All I can say is that I believed it, because between age 15 and 20 my feet were a clear size 10, and then through bodybuilding and gaining nearly 2 stone (22 pounds) May to August 91 (aged 20), I had to start wearing size 11 shoes in that short time - and my spine straightened. I speculated that finding peace allowed George to release more growth hormone. Height gain after age 25 is not unprecedented. Certainly bone density in athletes can increase until age 35....

Ali (with his quote) - was the ultimate salesman. He loved to talk. Quality wasn't always important. Simultaneous with making something up, he would wholly believe it himself. The Nation of Islam might not be the best example, but it's a start.

I say Foreman was 6 ft 3 in 74 and 6 ft 4 in 87.
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Feb/19
Here's 6'4" Jeff Dye TOWERING over Foreman (2016)... Click Here , Click Here Safe to say he's no longer 6'3".
berta said on 5/Jan/19
i think he coud have been legit 6 foot 3 maybe fraction over
mohammad said on 23/Dec/18
Excellent-good listing .
Canson said on 25/Oct/18
@Tall in the Saddle: hmm. not sure about Stewart. I have GF at 6’3” flat peak however like Rob lists him
VicLions said on 24/Oct/18
I will give Foreman at least 6ft3.5 in his prime. He looks like he has considerable length and is very proportiante.
Sonnecker said on 28/Sep/18
Big George could have been 6'3" and a half in youth...he haven't lost so much since then, maybe a couple of cm...
McMurphy said on 1/Sep/18
Foreman is listed as 6'4 and 257lbs in his figth against 6'2 listed Holyfield.

Click Here

You can see he has like 2 inches advantage, if Holyfield stands above 6'1 as said in this site, Foreman should be over 6'3.
Tall In The Saddle said on 30/Jul/18
@Canson - well no one could call you out - the height you report is rock solid. Found a pic by accident - didn't expect to see them together - Ali and James Stewart. The image is a bit small but old Jimmy still standing tall and looking taller than Ali though head bowed a bit. Don't know if you've submitted an estimate for Stewart - I actually already have Stewart at 6'3.5" peak (not fixated with that fig.- ha ha) but of course it is an older off peak Stewart.

Click Here
Tall In The Saddle said on 28/Jul/18
Ho hum. Yet again linking less than ideal photos from chest up, foot wear indeterminate etc. The advantage with boxers is that you can actually view them full length in the ring together, identical footwear with plenty of vision to compare. I watched GF v Schulz and GF had a clear edge in height. Here's a link to the weigh in - both men bare feet - again I see GF holding the edge in height after he steps off the scales - even though GF barely stands straight as compared to Schulz

Click Here
Canson said on 27/Jul/18
@Tall in the Saddle: lol yea I’m good at 6’4.25. I just claim 6’4” usually or a hair over 6’4” when someone asks. I used to claim 6’4 1/2 but not as often now. I may have lost height (2-3mm) or May have been because of my hair. As far as benefit of the doubt, I don’t see what good it does people really. The half imho is poorly used. Really half should be reserved for someone measuring above 3/8 and maybe under 5/8.
Tall In The Saddle said on 25/Jul/18
@Canson: Lol not confused just giving you the benefit of your upper range fig. for your low + a wee round up - 194cm = 6'4.377" = 6'4 3/8 - as near to 6'4.5" as it is to 6'4.25". The treatment varies, some are happy to add their high/low and take the average - if you did it that way any way you slice it you'll get at least 6'4.5". Of course that doesn't account for most height (about 80%) being lost in first 5-8 hours after which it plateaus - representing the most reasonably static fig for the greater part of the day with relatively little loss to follow. Anyway, of course as you say in perfect honesty, 6'4.25" (193.67cm) it is.
HarrySachs said on 24/Jul/18
Foreman and the listed 6'3 Axel Schulz. Click Here Here is a picture of Foreman with a few tennis players. Click Here Max Mirnyi the guy with the white shirt 2 spots over with the white shirt on is listed at 6'5. Jonas Bjorkman the guy with the white right next to the left of Foreman is listed at 6'0. The wins to the right of Foreman are Bob and Mike Bryan. I seen some sights that listed Bob as 6'4 and Mike as 6'2 and 6'3
Canson said on 23/Jul/18
@Tallinthe Saddle: it’s all good! No worries! As far as reflection of my true height, I’ve said 6’4.25 is since that’s my low. I used to think 6’4.5 but because I measured taller previously (6’4 3/8) and thought that was my low. Turns out it’s not. 6’4.5 is a morning height for me since it is 3-4 hours out of bed. I think you may have gotten confused when I said that “194cm” would be my claim in Metric but that’s just metric. Feet and inches 6’4 1/4 and I round down to 6’4” not up. example

I wake up 195.5-196 out of bed and am 193.5-194 at a low so I use the 193.5-194 as my true height
Tall In The Saddle said on 21/Jul/18
@Canson - just to you let you know I didn't ignore your last post. I submitted a few posts that didn't get through - perhaps due to content of the "side" discussion going on. My post to you however was strictly in reply to you nothing else. I totally respect Rob, the site he runs and all other contributors. I simply didn't see the other party with a history for same being reigned in at all - which is fine - I can deal with that myself. Just see their last post 15 July 2018 - how does that get through and the right to reply does not? ROB - I hope you understand where I am coming from at least - you can delete this portion if you want but if you could retain the following reply.

@Canson - Just to you let you know I didn't ignore your last post - some of my posts didn't get through. Yes, I understand the morn, noon and night variances. I appreciate the considerate provision and breakdown of your own personal data. We all move to diff. drums so labels such as midday/afternoon height might not hold equal value. Let's say perhaps on average we get 8 hours sleep (hardly true for me - lol) and 16 hours awake. From the min. of the first waking hour we have our HIGH and over next 8 hours we'll lose most of the height we will lose in a day (say 3/4") for our LOW and then maybe another (say 1/4") for an ABSOLUTE LOW over the next 8 hours or more. I could be wrong but I think you have said that 6'4.5" is reflection of your true height - which falls between the two extremes for yourself about 6'5" to 6'4" so 6'4.5 is a more than fair call.

As to this sites height listings - I think I've read site owner Rob state that they are not necessarily meant to represent morn. or afternoon though Rob suggests that he thinks afternoon height (after say 5 waking hours) is the most realistic height to claim OR perhaps a height exactly in the middle of your HIGH and LOW.

As to Ali - like all other celebs - we simply are not availed of the same data from them as you have provided of yourself and what data they do provide - well obviously the integrity of same can be questionable. That leaves some reasonable scope to move them up or down from their listed height if we guess the measurement to be a high, low or max. low but it is still guessing at the end of the day. I would say our main ref. is the vision - how tall we perceive them to be relative to other individuals of "known" height - if the listing suits what we think we can see we agree with it but if it doesn't then we might guess a high or low measurement, a round up or even a flat exaggeration.

I take Ali's 6'2.5" to represent a fair reflection of his true height as I have seen him - similar to the way 6'4.5" represents a fair claim for your own height over a day. We differ in that I don't see GF as only slightly taller - I see 1" advantage to GF just as I see 1" adv to Holmes - this isn't just from photos - but also from watching quite a lot of video involving these guys together. There's quite a few photos of GF with Ali and a few LH that were contained in boxing mags I used to own but I can't find those same pics online. I remember one of GF and LH clasping hands and I think it was LH very early in his reign with GF a few years into his first retirement - they looked about equal in height but the angle wasn't perfect.

Interestingly, You and I agree on Conan's height but we are in the minority - we say about 6'3.25" but most comments disagree and he's listed at 6'4" on this site and the average guess over 137 votes is 6'3.84". As an example, where we see Conan dropping a full 1" to a guest others say they see only .5" or even no diff. at all. Do I think we're right? Of course but to each his own.
Canson said on 16/Jul/18
@Tall in the Saddle: re: midday height. I’m not sure if midday height is the right word or way to describe it. Midday for me means about lunch time or right before but I think the right way to describe it is the afternoon height meaning at your low. Midday can vary from person to person Say if someone wakes up at 7 am and it’s 12 pm when they measure. That’s about 5 hours and you may be 1/8” above. I’d put the true “afternoon height” at about 7 or 8 hours out of bed and that’s your low. For example i wake up at 5 am and if I measure 12-1 pm or 1 at the latest I’m down from 195.7 cm out of bed to my low usually by then, maybe 193.8-.9 best case 193.7 usually is my low (6’4.25). I always hit 193.8 and if I go to the gym 193.7 if I’ve been a bit more active (193.1 is my extreme low if I’m on my feet late night for hours). But 193.7 is what I consider the normal low for me.

As far as Ali, he also stated above that he’s 6’2 1/2 and that Foreman is the same height. I can agree that Foreman is taller, albeit slightly, but Ali may be slightly less than 6’2.5 at a low. We don’t know what time of day he was measured but I suspect that the 6’2.5 is maybe 1/4” off his low max, at least in my opinion
Canson said on 15/Jul/18
This is about how Foreman and Holyfield look which is about the difference of 6’3 and 6’1-6’1.25

Click Here
Canson said on 15/Jul/18
@Tall in the Saddle: only thing about Foreman being 6’3.5 at a low is that Bowe would be a full 6’5” most likely. Bowe has about 1.5” on him like Harry Sachs also said. It’s hard to judge people that close in height with me but Bowe didn’t look any taller than me to be honest and if anything it could be just the difference between what we are if he had a footwear advantage something like 1cm or half inch. If Bowe were measured 6’4.75, he would likely be slightly less at a low maybe 6’4 5/8 or 1/2 since athletes are typically not measured at their normal low. Maybe Bowe is 6’4 5/8 but even at that Foreman doesn’t look more than 190-191 cm next to him (6’3ish) maybe 6’3 1/8 is possible but he looks like Larry Holmes to be honest, a legit 6’3” guy. I’d give both a range of anywhere 6’2 7/8-6’3 1/8 as solid 6’3 guys both and maybe Ken Norton Sr would be something more like 6’2 5/8 (6’2.5-.75 zone), whereas Ali would be 6’2.25-.5 at a low. That’s my opinion at least
McMurphy said on 15/Jul/18
Actually , Foreman looks a bit taller than Derrick Lewis there.
You can see the photo is not straight but tilted down on the right side.
Plus, Derrick is in stance pose with shoulders high.
Canson said on 15/Jul/18
@Harry Sachs: with Derrick Lewis he still looks 6’3
HarrySachs said on 15/Jul/18
If Derrick Lewis is 6'3 like he claims then do you think Foreman lost any height at the point the picture was taken? Click Here
HarrySachs said on 15/Jul/18
Anyway Canson here is a picture of Foreman and Ali. Click Here If Ali is 6'2 1/2 then as you have stated and tons of people have stated then Foreman would be peak 6'3.

But here is a picture of Foreman and Shannon Briggs who claims to be 6'4 which clearly he isn't. But since Foreman is 6'3 how tall would you peg Briggs. Click Here

Here is a picture of Ron Lyle, Joe Louis and George Foreman Click Here

Here are some other videos of Foreman in his comeback being listed at 6'3 before he started lying about being 6'4 Click Here 4:04

Click Here 0:43

Click Here The begging of the video.
HarrySachs said on 15/Jul/18
Why is this thing Tall In the Saddle still typing to me? If he sexually attracted to the way I typing? Lol everybody else here thinks Foreman is 6'3. Foreman said he is 6'3 and you say he is 6'3 1/2. Because you know more about Foreman than he does. I ignored you already and you keep typing to me. I couldn't care less about you. You are just words on a computer screen. Now be a dear and stop typing to me.
Canson said on 14/Jul/18
@Harry Sachs: here’s one of he and Ali in the good ole days

Click Here
Tall In The Saddle said on 13/Jul/18
@Canson - First, several posts I have made have yet to appear - at least to me.
I understand the methodology. This site lists Ali at 6'2.5" - which we assume this site accepts as Ali's mid day height - and I agree. Remember this is already a .5" drop from Ali's popularly listed height. I haven't mentioned low/high at all. You stated that it is possible low/high either way but then suggest it is high and only a lower height can be argued for.
Having followed boxing I have always seen GF and LH as over 6'3" (not by a mere 1/8th I wouldn't -bother with that). I agree prev. 6'4" listings were exaggerated round ups but not likely a full 1" jump up from a flat 6'3" - more like from an actual 6'3.5" or close to which both GF and LH were previously listed as also.
It was actually me who suggested the difficulty in comparing oneself to another when only .25"-.5" diff. is involved - particularly when the other party is not privy to or straightening themselves for the comparison. Sachs followed that with a ques. to you on same. Sachs also previously mused to you the possibility of GF being 6'3.5" - this after rejecting my rationalised suggestions that GF was 6'3.5" peak. You see, Sachs rejects an idea then tries to adopt it in another post - sad.
I saw older GF and Conan as equal and you know I est. Conan to be 6'3.25". Sachs actually saw Conan as taller - if I were bias I could've said same to suit my est. on GF - but no, I only saw them as even but reasonably stated that it was an older GF. I've also pointed to the see-saw height adv. exchanged between GF and LH over diff. pics - in some pics angles are obv. playing a big part - I also agree GF appears to have lost more than LH over time.
I always saw both GF and Holmes having up to 1" adv. in height over Ali so 6'3.5" still holds for me.
Est. height is hardly an exact science or something to get one's knickers in a knot over - no one should pretend that it is - there's the ques. as to whether a listing is morning, noon or night and the height range "play" involved with same. Neither pics or videos are perfect - people just get their own feel over a broad range of references. Sometimes contributors will disagree, neither having greater weight to their argument - and that's all there is to it - problem is some contributors do not rationalise themselves and simply can't cope with anyone not "seeing" it the way they do.
Sachs has presented himself as the board IDIOT via numerous imbecilic responses to a number of contributors. A virtual troll. Please read posts carefully. He has invoked ad hominem attacks on several contributors in lieu of on point rational response - Jordan87, Reece and myself to name a few. Who else labels people as idiots, dumb, liars etc. in response to their opinions - clearly it's a projection of the dim view he has of himself. I am more than capable of treating in kind - Sachs isn't even good at talking smack which I will never initiate but will return if necessary. Sachs has been proven wrong over and over and to have contradicted himself - he can't even stick to ignoring after making a proclamation to do so.
Btw the pic of Foreman and Bowe - yes perhaps one might argue for 1.5" diff. on that pic alone but to be fair there are other shots and vision with Bowe and GF doesn't appear to be dropping as much height.
Tall In The Saddle said on 13/Jul/18
Sachs - YOU have already proven yourself to be the board IDIOT - and you continue to reaffirm it. YOU said you would ignore my posts - but you can't because you are aware that you have been dissected, proven wrong and shown to have contradicted yourself.

I've had no issues with anyone else but YOU. Yet, you as the common denominator, have had issues with Jordan87, Reece and myself to name a few calling people idiots, morons, liars, dumb dumbs etc - how revealing is that as to who the problem child is? - you become insecure the instant anyone presents a view that isn't your own, clearly projecting the dim view you have of yourself onto others by lashing out like a 2 year old and calling other contributors names. It is you who seeks attention via ad hominem attacks in lieu of remaining on point.

I actually read, comprehend and address each and every point put to me - you either ignore or cannot comprehend anything that is put to you and it seems it takes you a good while to muster what ultimately is a puerile, meaningless response each and every time. Btw, just as I did, Jordan87 absolutely schooled you - yes SCHOOLED YOU - Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

I remain with a well rationalised 6'3.5" max. peak and at least 13" fists for GF.

Now by all means ignore my posts - you're too imbecilic to comprehend anything anyway.
Canson said on 13/Jul/18
@Harry Sachs: I couldn’t tell if someone is that much taller you’re right. My point with Bowe was just to say that he’s somewhere between 6’4-6’5. That’s why I mentioned he really didn’t look any taller than me. Now if it’s a clear half inch you may be able to see it but I didn’t see that with Bowe to be honest but that’s why I mentioned the footwear too. I agree with Bowe and Foreman that’s 1.5” between them.
Canson said on 12/Jul/18
@Tall in the Saddle: thing to remember with these heights is that while Ali likely measures 6’2.5 at some point doesn’t mean it’s a low for him. Celebheights is supposed to be based off afternoon heights. It’s a possibility he measures 6’2.5 at a low but just as good as shot at measuring 6’2.25. The one fact tho is that he isn’t taller than 6’2.5 if that’s what he measured. The only argument is if he’s lower than (alive and in his prime) In the afternoon.

As far as Conan, the pics could vary. He may be shorter in some and taller in others. Same with Foreman and Holmes, it can go both ways. One thing with Foreman is that he doesn’t always have good posture. But I think he’d be the same as Holmes peak 6’3. Maybe we could argue that he is like 6’3 1/8 as both could’ve been peak
Canson said on 12/Jul/18
@McMurphy: I firmly believe they were in their peak both 6’3”. Harry Sachs made a good point too that Foreman appears taller in some pics but I see where Holmes does. Holmes’ proportions do him more justice as he has the length of a 6’3” guy whereas Foreman is chubby and has a longer torso. Holmes may give a taller impression but I would believe that they’re the same like you said. I think both were legit 6’3” guys like Rob lists them
HarrySachs said on 12/Jul/18
Canson to be fair Tall in the Saddle is a moron who just wants attention. I put up links that Foreman is 6'3. Foreman himself said he was 6'3 when he was champ. You think Foreman is 6'3. You gave reasons why Foreman is 6'3. I put up links that said Foreman's hands were 12 inches. I put up a few videos stating this. Tall In The Saddle will ignore anything you type to try to prove his little point. Which is why I will ignore anything he types from now on.

If you are 6'4 1/4 inches Canson do you honestly think you could tell if a person was 1/4 1/3 taller than you are just be meeting them? I think you actually put up a picture of Foreman in the 90's standing next to Riddick Bowe. They both had dress shoes on and Bowe looked at least 1.5 inches taller than the 6'3 Foreman.

I can't find any pictures of young Foreman and young Larry Holmes standing next to each other. I can only find pictures from when they were suppose to fight from the early 2000's to recently. Back in the early 2000's Foreman and Holmes looked around the same height.
Tall In The Saddle said on 12/Jul/18

Personally I wouldn't go lower than 6'2.5" for Ali. I see 1" adv. for GF over Ali. I've linked pre fight instructions in Zaire before to uphold same -Click Here - freeze at around 20.14. I've also frozen the action at other points in the fight and I see the same height diff. - a diff. I have also seen in photos. I agree GF has lost some height over time.

I give LLewis 6'4.75" which I think is reasonably accurate (If only we could have a peak John Cleese standing beside him, lol). I've only viewed LLewis and Bowe together on 2 occasions - their 1988 Olympic encounter and their post fight confrontation after the first Bowe-Holyfield fight.
For their Olympic bout Bowe and LLewis are listed 6'4.5" a piece aged 23 and 21 respectively. I see a slight edge to Lewis. So if Bowe was in fact 6'4.5" (which appears to reconcile with your encounter with Bowe) then I think 6'4.75" for LLewis fits nicely into the big picture.
As to the encounter after the Holyfield - Bowe fight, the angles vary but I still see Llewis holding the edge - though Bowe would be wearing flat boxing shoes while you would guess LLewis is wearing dress shoes.

1988 Olympic Bout - Click Here
1992 Post Holyfield-Bowe fight confrontation - Click Here

Re Ken Norton - estimating his height relative to Holmes, Foreman etc. outside the ring was somewhat problematic - Norton was prone to wearing some seriously big heels that the other fighters didn't necessarily wear - Click Here
HarrySachs said on 11/Jul/18
Canson Click Here Click Here Here is a couple of pictures from around 2000. Foreman looks just as tall as Larry Holmes if not taller.

Bowe is listed at 6'5 but is around 6'4 3/4 in his prime just like Lennox Lewis.
Canson said on 11/Jul/18
@Harry Sachs: to be fair though, Tall in the Saddle has made some very very good estimates on other pages. I guess it comes down to appearances meaning how we all see them. Foreman did look more whole in his prime. Today he has very poor posture. Having seen Mike Tyson in person, he looks almost the same with my 5’7.75 wife as he does with Rob and to us he was 5’10 When we met him. Tyson doesn’t look to have lost any height as of about 10 years ago. And Bowe really didn’t look taller than me in person and if he were it was maybe like a cm max and I’m 6’4 1/4. I never paid attention to footwear though so he may have been the same height. With Foreman and Holmes at their peaks I was never able to tell who was taller because they were so close in height whereas both were slightly taller than Ali. Even Norton Sr looked close at times but he may have been a cm shorter than them. I would say the most I could see Foreman based on someone else who met him is maybe a very fine hair over 6’3” like 6’3 1/8 and wouldn’t surprise me if he just hit 6’3” at a low and no less or more. I think Holmes may have been very much the same.
McMurphy said on 11/Jul/18
@Canson I've seen a lot of stills of Foreman and Holmes together. They are the exact same height for me.
As you say, Holmes built is different, he has more of a belly and slimmer chest-shoulders. He has a smaller head too. A person with small head always looks taller at the same height.

Thats the trick with proportions and photoshoot models. You can be short but with a small head you can look taller on photos.
Tall In The Saddle said on 11/Jul/18
Sachs - Riddle me this: Every village has one. So too it seems every discussion board. Guess what? YOUR it. 24 Carat.

Canson is a polite civil poster I respect and like to read - you can't pull him into your delusional world that is high on rhetoric and short on facts and common sense. Canson writes perfectly well for himself.

You have been proven wrong at every turn, you haven't proven anyone else wrong. So preoccupied with playing the troll you can't even get it right as to who you're trying to argue with - you argued over fighters Ali fought in the 60s with Jordan87 on the Ali thread just recently, NOT MYSELF. Apparently you're not smart enough to know that myself and Jordan87 are two different posters. Golf clap for that.

YOU also wrote:-
HarrySachs said on 24/Jun/18
"Canson Foreman looks taller than Conan in that video don't you think? We can't see their shoes but if you think Conan at his peak was 6'3 1/2 to 1/2 then would you round Foreman's prime height up to maybe 6'3 1/2?"
As per the above post I see you are steadfast against the possibility of GF being 6'3.5". Seriously.

For me, the vision is the foremost evidence. Physical records can be called in for support but in no way present as absolute evidence in their own right. Foreman was listed as 6'5" at one stage - I wouldn't disingenuously offer that listing and argue for that height. IMO, Foreman appeared between 6'3" and 6'4" and there are listings of 6'3.5" that agree with this. Ali was almost uniformly listed as 6'3" but it seems he was in fact 6'2.5" - the most often listed heights are not necessarily the be all and end all. You do understand that a single statistic can replicated over and over from a single erroneous source don't you? Boxers were not literally measured for each and every fight.

As to visual evidence - if they uniformly listed Foreman's fist at 11" would you buy it? The scary answer is - probably. Check the supplied pic, Ali's fist was almost always listed at 13" - please anyone tell me that they can't see that Foreman's fist is OBVIOUSLY bigger:-

Click Here - there are testimonials from people who have shaken GFs hand and they uniformly comment that his hands are huge - I've not read similar comments re Ali, Frazier, Norton etc.

Here endeth the lesson
Canson said on 10/Jul/18
Foreman and Bowe who in person was between 6’4 and 6’5 when I met him

Click Here
Canson said on 10/Jul/18
@Tall in the Saddle: I would say Foreman is taller than Ali. It’s possible that Ali measuring 6’2.5 gets down to around 6’2.25 at a low and that Foreman at his peak was 6’3” flat. I would say today Foreman has poor posture or he’s shrunken a bit as he does not look 6’3” now. The thing is if you look at him with Larry Holmes, Holmes actually looks taller today. Holmes still looks 6’3” in pics and with Rob whereas Foreman looks smaller than Holmes now. But then again I’m sure in person Holmes would give the false impression just because of how he is built. Foreman has a “fatter” appearance and isn’t as long limbed as Holmes.
McMurphy said on 10/Jul/18
Here's George Foreman listed at 6'3.5" killing a skinny 6'7 Bob Hazelton with a jab.

Click Here
HarrySachs said on 10/Jul/18
Canson is Tall In The Saddle wants to believe Foreman was 6'3 1/2 or 6'4 and Larry Holmes was teh same just let him. No matter what information you give him he will find something to type. I told him that back int the 70's there was numerous heavyweights 6'3 plus fight. You know what he did? He kept bringing up heavyweights Ali fought in the 60's. I don't think he is smart enough to know the 60's and 70's are two different decades.
HarrySachs said on 10/Jul/18
McMurphy in the Ken Norton vs George Foreman fight they stated the same thing. Click Here
HarrySachs said on 10/Jul/18
Tall In the Saddle You keep repeating the same dumb wrong information even when proven wrong. I posted so much information with Foreman being 6'3 and even stating in the 1990's he was 6'3 before he started lying and saying he was 6'4. Some times Foreman was listed at 6'3 1/2 in his 70s I assume before of his afro. Also Foreman's fist were 12.5 inches. Click Here Click Here

On that note I will ignore everything you type. There needs to be option here where you can just put somebody on ignore so you can't see their post.
Tall In The Saddle said on 9/Jul/18
I'll just add even without calling in GF and Ali's exact heights I would say as an ABSOLUTE - there is/was 1" height advantage to GF. Back in the day when Ali's 6'3" listing wasn't questioned it appeared then that GF was a solid 6'4" - same for Joe Bugner who appeared to have 2" on Ali thus Joe was afforded 6'5". However, since then we have Ali officially listed on his passport at 6'2.5" so if only based on that I still give GF 6'3.5" and Bugner 6'4.5" - and when Joe fought legit 6'5" Chuck Wepner it can be seen while close in height Wepner has the edge on Bugner.
Tall In The Saddle said on 8/Jul/18
Foreman's fist is clearly larger than 12" - at least 13" if not a bit more. Ali was obviously trying to talk Foreman's size advantage down - GF was clearly the taller and bigger man and Ali knew it. Ali's smack was meant to boost his own confidence just as much as it was meant to dent the confidence of his opponent. The pre fight instructions vision from Zaire shows a clear 1" height advantage to GF. Holmes was also touted to be 6'4" and 6'3.5" at various times during his career. Some pics GF appears equal to Holmes whilst others show GF having the edge or Holmes having the edge.
Canson said on 8/Jul/18
If Ali is calling him 6’2 1/2, he is not 6’4 or even 6’3.5 I doubt. 6’3” is the most frequent listing and he looks the same height as Larry Holmes
McMurphy said on 7/Jul/18
@HarrySachs that's an error for sure.
Foreman hands are huge even for a heavyweight. See Dino and George hands here:

Click Here
HarrySachs said on 5/Jul/18
Click Here Here is George Foreman in the late 70's being listed at 6'3 231 pounds. With a 78.5 inch reach and his fist being 12 inches. 2 inches smaller than the guy he was fighting John Dino Dennis.
Tall In The Saddle said on 5/Jul/18
@Canson - with all comparisons taken into account I'd still give GF 6'3.5" at absolute best - could be wrong of course.
Interesting question on reach. Agree GF was generally listed at 78.5" and it looked about right though impossible to say exactly with confidence. Ali's reach was sometimes listed at 80" and 82" but also at about 78.5" also - the latter measurement being more close to the true mark in my opinion.
The boxer Sonny Liston at about 6'.5" in height was almost always afforded an incredible reach of 84" (7 feet!!) and his arms did look disproportionately long relative to his height. Some have called his exact reach into question - this is partly attributed to Liston's reach being listed at 80" prior to his fight with Leotis Martin much later in his career.
Sonny had huge hands and when curled into a fist they measured 15.5". Both the width of Liston's shoulders and length of his hands obviously factored into his overall reach measurement.
However, it is possible that despite obviously long arms and hands Liston's stats may've been inflated. His reach was always listed as 84" until the Martin fight - however, his fists prior to 1964 were listed as 14.5" (still huge) but somehow "grew" an inch larger for the first Ali fight. Ali's own reach for that fight was listed at 82" - exaggerated I believe but inflated so as to approximate to Liston's own 84" reach.
Anyway, check the mitts on Charles "Sonny" Liston:-

Click Here

Click Here
Canson said on 28/Jun/18
@Tall in the Saddle: I would put Conan slightly taller peak. Conan may have been 191 range whereas Foreman looks a solid 6’3” guy
HarrySachs said on 28/Jun/18
McMurphy Foreman's reach was around 78.5 inches when he was in his prime. I don't see why his arms or shoulders would have grown in retirement.
Tall In The Saddle said on 28/Jun/18
Re Foreman and Conan. The angle definitely creates an illusory disadvantage for O'Brien. Allowing for same which I don't think is too difficult - I guess them to be about equal in height. I take each comparison as it comes - even if the next individual comparison contradicts a prev. comparisons with other individuals. Fortunately for me, prev. assumptions appear to reasonably fit - I peg O'Brien at about 6'3.25" peak and Foreman about 6'3.5" peak - I believe Foreman is 55 yo in the clip so to have lost .25" isn't a stretch I don't think.
McMurphy said on 27/Jun/18
Renegader im pretty sure his reach is at least 80 inches. He has big forelimbs and constitution in general, very broad shoulders and one the biggest hands in boxing history.
Click Here

But it depends how reach is measured, because there are many ways to do it, and boxers often do the trick with it.
Renegader said on 24/Jun/18
@Canson And everyone else what do you think george foremans reach is ...on various sites it states his reach is 6'6 1/2 (78 1/2 inch)..... and a smaller amount saying that he has a 6ft 8 - 6ft 9 reach... what is your opinion and i also heard that he would downplay his reach and wouldnt let anyone measure it .. so from some evidence could you all come up with some accurate ideas to how long his reach is....
Canson said on 24/Jun/18
@Harry Sachs: maybe footwear or camera angle. I have a hard time bumping Foreman to 6’3.5 but for sure he is a solid 6’3” peak
Canson said on 24/Jun/18
@Renegader: that’s my guess 6’3.75 would be out of bed 6’3” would be his normal low during the day. As far as true height, if there is any such thing, it would be 6’3” for him as that’s what he would maintain longer but I don’t believe in a “true height” per se. he would just be 6’3” since that’s the “range” he falls into for the entire day
HarrySachs said on 24/Jun/18
Click Here

Foreman maybe 10 or so years ago with the listed 6'3 Derrick Lewis.
HarrySachs said on 24/Jun/18
Canson Foreman looks taller than Conan in that video don't you think? We can't see their shoes but if you think Conan at his peak was 6'3 1/2 to 1/2 then would you round Foreman's prime height up to maybe 6'3 1/2?
Renegader said on 23/Jun/18
I have done extensive research into George foreman, him being my favourite boxer of all time and idol.... So I have compared him to many other fighters and celebs and it would take to long to post everything here so you will have to take my word for it...( i was looking into his height years before this made) ... I have concluded that his height in the morning is extremely likely to be 6'3.75 inches and after a good long sleep on his bak he may just touch 6'4 but throughout the day his height would shrink to around 6'3.25-6'3.5 inches... Could i get everyone elses opinion on this statement....(also could we possibly discuss how Foreman got such incredible power)-:) My height vote will be the provided (6'3/4) - as I go by morning height as real/true height...Thanks all
Canson said on 20/Jun/18
@Harry Sachs: not sure if Foreman had lost height by then. I believe he was a legit 6’3-6’3 1/8 peak but Conan I never believed 6’4” for him. I always thought 6’3.25-.5 peak tops perhaps just 6’3.25 and a morning measurement of close to 6’4 which he rounded
HarrySachs said on 19/Jun/18
Click Here Here is Foreman with Conan O'Brien
HarrySachs said on 19/Jun/18
Click Here Here is Foreman and David Letterman
Richie said on 12/Jun/18
I saw George Foreman close up at the Cardiff Arms Park back in 93' when Lewis fought Bruno, he was working for HBO as a commentator. I would say he was a strong 6'3"and not 6'4" as his stats suggest.
Tall In The Saddle said on 5/Jun/18
I prev. linked the McMahon-Foreman clip on the Clint Eastwood page. They are very close in height. I would give Foreman the slight edge but the diff. is nothing to write home about. Aside from and before Celebheights McMahon was uniformly listed as 6'4" - as he described himself - doesn't mean that height was exactly correct but it was the more common listing. Celebheights has Ed at 6'3.25" but the analytical discussion on Ed is just a few posts. Ed is about 50 yo in the clip. If he was 6'4" peak I wouldn't drop him below 6'3.5" at age 50 and the man still stood very straight - possibly retaining most if not all of his peak height. Ed enlisted in the Marines 1941 age 18 so it would be interesting if his recorded physical stats could be obtained - there are a lot of celebs to compare him against - but advancing years and some height loss have to be accounted for.
HarrySachs said on 2/Jun/18
Click Here Here is the 6'3 Foreman with the listed 6'3 Ed McMahon.
Tall In The Saddle said on 20/May/18
McMurphy - I've seen the first pic before and have to admit, Holmes looks clearly taller than Foreman but the perspective appears to favour Holmes and footwear is indeterminate.
As I estimate them, Foreman and Holmes should be equal in height (6'3.5" a piece) and there are a few photos out there to support that but it appears that older George has dropped more height than older Holmes.
McMurphy said on 16/May/18
Foreman and holmes. In the first pic Holmes looks a bit taller, his shoes may have a bit more heel height by the style. A bit of perspective advantage too. Foreman is wearing loafers.
Click Here

In this second pic they look the same height.
Holmes has a slender neck/head, Foreman higher shoulders.
Click Here
Tall In The Saddle said on 11/May/18
Link to a contemporaneous RING article author Nat Loubet on then 19 YO GF fresh off Olympic victory looking ahead to turning pro - height listed as at that time 6'3.5"

Click Here (scroll down about 80% of the page)

Of course such citations aren't be all end all proof on their own but given all other ref. points I think 6'3.5" is a fair call.

Btw, it was stated earlier in the thread that Foreman was measured as a 19 yo amateur at 6'3" - can the author of that claim point to a source/link?
Canson said on 8/May/18
Out of bed 192.4 peak
Before bed 190.5 peak

Solid 6’3” as listed
Tall In The Saddle said on 8/May/18
IMO GF was about 6'3.5" at absolute peak - during prefight instructions GF was clearly about 1" taller than Ali and Lyle.

Here is the perfect view point to judge Foreman relative to Ali - go to 20:14 of the footage in Zaire:-

Click Here

I see the GF v Lyle fight linked earlier in thread to suggest GF and Lyle of equal height. Look again Grasshopper, Foreman is clearly taller.

Click Here

Look further into clip at 16:52 when GF and Lyle face off at the end of the round - up close and personal and again, Foreman is clearly taller than Lyle despite Ronnie standing as straight as possible to get all up in Foreman's grill (pun intended).
AAAA said on 5/Mar/18
If Foreman is 6'3 so if Harry Carson and Lawrence Taylor. Carson is RIGHT next to Foreman and they look dead even, despite George tilting his head up a bit. Shortest guy there is Thomas Hearns (listed 6'1, many claim closer to 6'2, but many also lie). Tallest guy is Spencer Haywood (6'7-6'9 listings, call it 6'8)

Click Here

What do you all peg the heights at. I have pics of Carson on the Lawrence Taylor Page, as well as one with him next to Jeter. Check em all out.
even said on 27/Feb/18
prime = 6 foot 3 , age 69 = 6 foot 2
Jordan87 said on 12/Feb/18
@ Even,

He was 220-226 lbs during his younger years, as in when he fought Ali, Lyle and Frazier. He was only 250+ when he came back in the late 80's. He also weighed once up t 265 pounds.
even said on 25/Jan/18
as a champ George Foreman was 6 foot 3 inches tall , he also weighed 250 pounds . today he cant be under 6 foot 2 .
Canson said on 17/Jan/18
Peak 6’3 flat as listed
Dwain said on 28/Dec/17
Foreman is defo taller than Ali. Ali looked about 6-2 1/2. Foreman is at least 6-3 if not 6-3 1/2 he was defo taller than Ali.
Canson said on 10/Dec/17
@Harry Sachs: I wouldn’t doubt him having lost height at that age honestly. I know I saw Robert Broome post on Larry Holmes page that he met him recently and he’s still 6’3 surprisingly tho
Harrysachs said on 9/Dec/17
Well I can't find many pictures with Foreman and other boxers anymore Canson. That is the most recent picture/video of him with somebody with a confirmed height. That guy in the video claims to be 6'2. Foreman looks shorter than that guy. So based on that I doubt Foreman is even 6'2 anymore.
Canson said on 5/Dec/17
@Harry Sachs: you think he’s dipped 2”? May be right but I figured he’d still be similar height although I haven’t seen him lately
HarrySachs. said on 4/Dec/17
Click Here The guy in the video is 6'2. Foreman looks shorter than him. Foreman appears to have lost a lot of height. I doubt Foreman is even 6'2 now.
Canson said on 12/Nov/17
Agree with Danimal.

A peak foreman was for sure 6’3”. I know someone who met him at 6’3” and they were the exact same height. Holmes was also 6’3” peak while Ali was 6’2-6’2.5 peak
Danimal said on 10/Nov/17
I read 6'3.5" claims back in the 90's. I could believe the flat 6'3" for him though. Ali was clearly shorter (6'2"-6'2.5") during his prime.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 20/Oct/17
No less than 6ft3
Canson said on 19/Oct/17
@Harry Sachs: as for Foreman he obviously isn’t 6’4”. He was likely at most 6’3” prime. Ali actually said he’s 6’2.5 or the same height as him but that’s also an assumption that Ali and he were the exact same and that Ali measured at his lowest at the 6’2.5. Both could be off and likely foreman is taller as the person I know who who met the guy is 6’3” today even in his 50s (190.3cm at night) and said that he and foreman are eye level. My guess is if foreman and Ali are eye level that foreman is still slightly taller. Even if the difference is 6’3 to 6’2.5 or 6’2 3/4 or 7/8 to 6’2.5
HarrySachs said on 13/Oct/17
Is something wrong with you Reece? Well that is the rhetorical question because clearly something is very wrong with you. You disagree with the people who measured Foreman as a 19 year old amateur at 6'3 230 and you disagree with the people who measured Foreman as a 28 year older against Jimmy Young at 6'3 and around 230? Great for you.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 28/Sep/17
I actually thought 191-192cm range for Foreman
Canson said on 28/Sep/17
@Reece: he wasn't an inch taller I aveee with Harry Sachs. Maybe 1/2" Ali at 6'2.5 is no guarantee that's his lowest. I claimed 6'4.5 for the longest but come down to 6'4.33 and some days 6'4.25 if I go to the gym. Ali could be the same meaning foreman wasn't over 6'3.
Canson said on 28/Sep/17
@Harry Sachs I saw Rob's quote above but I went more off how he looked with Wade. Now the pic with wade may not be accurate enough. But I highly doubt Dwayne wade is over 6'3" flat I think foreman prime may have really been 6'3 tho because someone who met him said they were the same height. Maybe worst case he was 6'2.75 at his lowest. But he was taller than Ali was imho. Ali was prob 6'2.25-.5 foreman could been 6'3 flat max
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 28/Sep/17
Rob, how likely is 189cm?
Editor Rob: I don't think Ali and foreman were that far apart, but 1.5 inches apart seems too much, I think Foreman was giving a shoe height when he claimed 6ft 4.
Reece said on 27/Sep/17
@HarrySachs. I disagree. You don't have to message me if you don't want to.
HarrySachs said on 26/Sep/17
Canson have you seen him with any current heavyweights recently? I tried to find pictures with him with any current fighters. That would show how tall he is today.
HarrySachs said on 26/Sep/17
Reece wave discussed this 1 billion times. Foreman was measured barefooted at 19 and he was 6'3. His last fight against Jimmy Young when he was 28 he was still measured at 6'3. Ali was 6'2.
Reece said on 22/Sep/17
Foreman must be 6-3.5 then because Ali was 6-2.5 at least.
Canson said on 22/Sep/17
He's nothing more prime than 6'3" but likely didn't dip below it. Today at his age likely 6'2 range based on how he looks
Editor Rob: I added a quote above by Ali, he was saying in 74 that both he and Foreman were 6ft 2.5.
Aswin MK said on 9/Sep/17
Rob - I don't remember clearly, but I read somewhere in a boxing site that he was measured as 6 foot 3.5 inches when he won the gold medal. 6 foot 3 is just about right, but having seen his matches again Ali, 6 foot 2ish Ron Lyle and around 6 foot 3 Ken Norton, I would easily say he was around the 6 foot 3.5 mark, might need an upgrade to 6 foot 3.25 atleast as he is at least 0.75 to 1 inch taller than the 6 foot 2.5ish Muhammed Ali.
Editor Rob: it would be interesting to find this 6ft 3.5.
Canson said on 18/Aug/17
Peak height 6'3" like Harry Sachs said. That is evident with Ali Holmes and Norton

Maybe only 6'2" range today since he is in near 70
Logan said on 16/Aug/17
About 6,3-6,4 probaly 6,3 now
harrysachs said on 10/Aug/17
Agreed KH. Ken Norton was measured by the Marines at 6'2 3/4 and was clearly taller than Ali. So I don't see why people like Reece still insisting Ali was 6'3. Ali was 6'2, Ken Norton was 6'2 3/4 and Foreman was 6'3 in his prime. Most likely today Foreman is shorter than 6'3
KH said on 7/Aug/17
Ali was more like a strong 6'2 then 6'2.5 or 6'3. Foreman was about an inch taller. 6'3.5 peak for Big George in his prime.
Canson said on 31/Jul/17
@Harry Sachs: agreed solid 6'3" at his peak may be shorter today by a fraction
Reece said on 24/Jul/17
Looked a full inch taller than Ali but no more. 6-3 and 6/4 seems fair.
McMurphy said on 20/Jul/17
Weak 6ft4 - 193 cm range.
He looked less than an inch taller than Ali, a couple centimeters no more.
Reece said on 6/Jul/17
190 is hard to believe. He looked a inch bigger than a 6-2.5/6-3 Ali. 192-193cm range
even said on 5/Jul/17
190 cm is the real height of the real champ
harrysachs said on 19/Jun/17
Canson I was typing to the other guy who claims Ali is 6'3 so Foreman was 6'4 plus. I already stated that Foreman was measured at 6'3 and then I put up tons of pictures of him to prove my point.
Canson said on 5/Jun/17
@Harry Sachs: you posted that to James and me like we are upgrading foreman. I had him af 6'3" all along and just said there is a possibility he's 6'3.25 not that he for sure is. That for sure would be the max however
Leon said on 28/May/17
Foreman was a inch taller than Ali who was not fully 6-3 but 6-2 1/2. Ali was billed 6-3 1/2 on a show with Howard Cossel but i think he had a 1 inch heel advantage. Foreman was 6-3 1/2 tops.
HarrySachs said on 28/May/17
Reece. 95 percent of the contenders in the 70s were beween 6'2 to 6'6 just like today. Being a certain height in the 70s is the same height is it today. Ron Lyle was listed at 6'3. Could he have been 6'2 1/2? Possibly but I never seen him listed at that height.

Shannon Briggs is taller than Foreman. You are just using one picture to try prove your point. You can't see George feet so you don't know if he is standing on something or not. I saw that picture and thought to myself Foreman is 6'3 and Briggs is basically the same height as him. But in the ring Briggs looked taller than Foreman.
Reece said on 27/May/17
Click Here Even Ignoring the Afro is easily looking tall. Lyle used to tower over oppenents in the 1970s he must be 6-2.5 at least. and Briggs was not a inch taller than Foreman his hair is fooling.Click Here. if u ignore the hair they look about the same. Briggs has likely lost some height. look well shorter than Wlad Kiltschko in the Gym. Briggs is probably more a Broad 6-3 guy.
HarrySachs said on 27/May/17
Ryan Shannon Briggs claims 6'4 and is taller than George Foreman by at least a inch.
Ryan said on 12/May/17
Looks very tall here. he claimed to be 6-4 in his older years and looks it legit.
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ArjunaKorale said on 9/May/17
@177 cm (m / GER/NRW/CGN)
I can understand why u might put your faith on today's Big Guns - all of them being huge...all of them as tall as fcuk as u so eloquently point out, lol! But bigger doesn't always mean's heavyweight fighters are big, clumsy & cumbersome (just my opinion)....come on, man, do any of them have the grace of an Ali, Holmes or even a Tyson...hell, they don't even come close to the elegance & grace of the heavyweights of the past (upto the end of the 1980s)...I prefer to watch Ali, Liston, Patterson, Machen, Folley, Jerry Quarry, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Shavers, Lyle, Young, Holmes, Michael Spinks, Pinklon Thomas & Mike Tyson over today's super-heavyweight behemoths any day!!!
P.S. What do u mean when u say that today's heavyweight champions are 'all on stuff'? Do u imply that they are taking PEDs?
HarrySachs said on 1/May/17
177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN)You should learn how to type better. I am sure most people here can't understand what you are trying to get across
177 cm (m|GER/NRW/CGN) said on 29/Apr/17
Honestly each of the big names today would knock him in the first round. Wether that's Fury, Klitschko, Joshua or Wilder... all on stuff all tall as fcuk

@Editor Rob
What's your belief?
ArjunaKorale said on 28/Apr/17
@david. You make some valid points...but I still believe that Ali was easily the best World Heavyweight Champ ever. Come on, David, as skilled & as marvellous as Joe Louis & Jack Johnson were for their time, neither would have had the style to beat Ali. You say that Ali had a lot of close fights...and, yes, the two opponents that come to mind are Frazier & Ken Norton. The Ali, however, who lost to Joe Frazier was not a peak fighter...a peak Ali was the Ali of the 1960s, who was TRULY A DANCE MASTER...1960s ALI WAS CLOSE TO BEING THE PERFECT HEAVYWEIGHT in my book. I'd pick a 1960s Ali over Holmes too...just too much speed (of hands & feet) & too much mental strength/confidence. And then we have KEN NORTON...I have watched all three Ali vs Norton fights & I have Ali ONLY winning their second fight...Ken beat Ali 2 out of 3 in my opinion (I strongly believe that)...but STYLES MAKE FIGHTS and Ali's boxing style was tailor made for unorthodox Norton...yet Ali was easily able to handle a bruising, clubbing, super-puncher like George Foreman...the same Foreman who totally annihilated Norton in less than 2 short rounds - go figure!!! AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I LOVE THE SWEET SCIENCE!
david said on 25/Apr/17
@ArjunaKorale. Their all great Champions. however we all define Greatness in loads of ways. i say their is no best ever. it is way too tough. Ali beat some of the Greatest Boxers but he had a lot of close Fights he struggled in he wasnt the Dance Master he was portrayed as. the Foreman and Young was actually quite close. Jack Johnson was great but i felt he was a bit overlooked he lost 13 times but deserves a lot of credit for being the first black champion. Larry Holmes and Foreman were close the Fighting in 1999 but i agree Holmes would have outboxed Foreman.
Canson said on 24/Apr/17
Luke he's either 4 or 5. He's 6'3
ArjunaKorale said on 24/Apr/17
I see a peak, 1970s Foreman at around 191 cm (6 ft 3.25) tall & nothing more. Foreman was without question one of the best heavyweight champions ever, but THE best ever? I don't think so! In the May 2017 issue of The Ring magazine, a large panel of experts ranked Foreman the number 7th greatest heavyweight of all time. Ali was ranked by all experts as the number 1, Joe Louis as number 2, Jack Johnson at number 3 and Larry Holmes as number 5. I agree with them wholeheartedly. Ali walloped Foreman out in 8 rounds & even Jimmy Young, a talented yet unlucky, heavyweight boxer hammered Foreman over 12 rounds, knocking him down to the canvas. The 190 cm tall Holmes was every bit as big physically as Ali & had great stamina just like Ali. Holmes was tough enough, clever enough, mobile enough & quick enough to expose Big George. Foreman always had trouble with clever boxers like Ali & Young and I'm 100 percent certain that Larry would have beaten George too.
luke said on 23/Apr/17
Hello their Rob! which of these do you think is more likely for George Foreman Peak Height
2. 194/192
Rory said on 13/Apr/17
I reckon 6'3.25 peak.
Canson said on 10/Apr/17
@Harry Sachs: i agree. I'm positive he was not 6'5" looking at him next to Ali. Ali was 6'2" and change 189cm peak. That's the problem here on this site is when someone has an idea for someone else's height they always inflate the people around them to make that person the height they want them to be. I see that every day in general a self proclaimed 6'4 guy who is 6'3 barefoot sometimes even 6'2.5 (claiming shoes) stands next to me at a weak 194cm and is nowhere near in height. But afros They all wore afros in the 70s. Foreman at a strong 6'3 (6'3-6'3.25) makes the most sense as the person I know who met him would've immediately spotted that he was taller than him. He said Forman and him were eye to eye when he met him. Maybe foreman was 1/4" taller because that won't be as noticeable but a full inch I agree is noticeable enough especially when foreman himself said he's 6'3"
George said on 8/Apr/17
HarrySachs.i dont think he is 6-4 like Reece i would say he was 6-3.5 tops and i would go with that. but It is his view just leave him to it. no need to get so emotional about it.
HarrySachs said on 6/Apr/17
Canson/James Click Here Go to the 7:00 mark. Foreman is listed at 6'3 224. Norton At 6'3 212. I put up pictures of Norton standing side by side with Ali and Norton is taller. Ali had a higher hair style which made him look closer to Norton's height. I put up links Foreman being measured as a 20-21 year old barefooted at 6'3 230. I put up pictures of Norton and Foreman standing side by side. No pictures of Foreman or Norton closed to the camera. But pictures that show them side by side and Foreman is only slightly taller than Norton.

We are talking about Foreman's barefooted height. Not his height in shoes. Just because Reece has some sexual thing for his hero Ali and keeps trying to put him at 6'3 1/2 even though he is shorter than the 6'2 3/4 inch Norton proves nothing.

Then he is one of these people who isn't smart enough to admit he is wrong. So he just lies about it. He claims Lyle is 6'3 and Foreman is 2 inches taller than him. Which of course lie. That would make Foreman 6'5. Which is funny because I put up a picture of a 40 year old Foreman next to the 6'4 1/2 Riddick Bowe and clearly Bowe is more than a inch taller than Foreman.

Reece will look at pictures where one guy is closer to the camera and try to use that to prove his little point. He isn't smart enough to realize guys lie about their height. So because Lyle said was 6'3 didn't mean he was.

Click Here There is the actually stare down between Lyle and Foreman. Foreman and Lyle are clearly the same height. Foreman just had a much higher afro than Lyle. Which again just proves how Reece lies to prove his point
Canson said on 1/Apr/17
@James: I agree 100%. He maybe was a 6'4" out of bed guy in the 70s or 60s and maybe 6'3.25 at his low which still makes him a strong 6'3". A lot of "6'4" guys will get measured early morning and be an entire inch shorter than I am (6'4.33) because they were measured early AM and rounded up and loosely claim it
Canson said on 1/Apr/17
@Reece: the person who met him is in his early 60s and he met him in the 80s in pretty sure. That's fine if you believe Chucky. We're all here to debate but why is that you take the person who claims the most height for someone instead? You do that for every person you comment on including Deontay Wilder
James said on 31/Mar/17
He was 6'4 with shoes on
Reece said on 29/Mar/17
Chucky said on 15 may 2016
Met him 15 years ago,easily 6-4 i am also 6-4 eye to eye. so Chucky and the person you know both meet Foreman and say different things. i still am sticking to 6-4 or close. just because one person says that but then Chucky who claims to met him too says different. oh and did the person you say met him meet him in the 70s or 90s or when he would have started losing some Height? Dundee said Ali was 6-2 but before the Terell Fight he said Ali was 6-4,Ali was not 6-4 but many commentators used to refer to him as a Touch under 6-4 which would mean 6-3 to 6-3.5.Sachs says Norton is taller than Ali,but i looked at them in the RING in flats Norton could have more in footwear in sachs pictures. they were the Same Height or Ali looked a touch taller in some bits. Norton was not taller in the Staredowns.Ali was listed 6-2.5 then moved up to 6-3 and he did look it next to Sonny Liston. my opinion still stands.
Canson said on 27/Mar/17
Man "can" grow until 25 but doesn't mean they do. How are you so sure Ali grew? Or Foreman? Harry Sachs said it well that he's shorter than Norton as well. So for that to be true it would mean that Norton grew. In short, what you are claiming is too many people grew. Foreman in his peak was 6'3 range. Sure maybe he was a strong 6'3" maybe he only came down as low as 6'3.25 but if a 6'3" person has met him and said they were the same height it's more likely that Foreman isn't 6'4".
Reece said on 26/Mar/17
Physlogical advantage. When Foreman had his height measured he often used to slouch a lot. Look at Ring stare downs. Lyle and Norton and Ali were all shorter than George. Lyle looked almost 2 inches shorter and Ali and Norton were shorter by a inch. Ali could have grown another inch because men can grow till 25. Ali put 6'2.5 but without knowing he grew another inch. Physiological ploy to intimate oppenents in the Ring when the look up and see how big he is. Wlad Kiltschko seems to do the same. I wonder why when he fights in Germany he is billed 6,6.5 but he claims to be 6-5.
Canson said on 26/Mar/17
@Harry Sachs: I agree with everything you said about Ali and Norton. Ali had 6'2.5 on his passport which is likely rounded my guess is he could be 6'2.25 and norton 6'2.75.

@Reece: why would foreman claim 6'3" like he did above when he is truly 6'4"? Most guys do not undercut themselves they inflate
Reece said on 24/Mar/17
apa rava said on 26/Oct/13
I think George was about 6.3 and a half. He is about one inch taller then muhammad ali and ken norton, both of them were about 6.3(between 190-191 cm).

I have no doubt that George is strong 6.3 and a half. maybe even 6.4.

he was 192 or 192.5 cm

Ali was about 190 or 190.5
Chazlinc said on 30/Sep/15
6'4" in 70s prime maybe shorter now. George was a hustler. He also undersold his height and reach. It was part of his schtick. He wouldn't let the commission measure his reach. He'd hunch over to register 6'3" when they measured him.....then in ring Center at the instructions he'd pull back his shoulders and stand up straight..look at the ali and lyle fights...Ron was every bit 6'3"...when George stood up straight he was a full inch...maybe more..taller
these are some that agree with me than George was a strong 6-3 and one guy says 6-4. all you need to do is check staredowns. Foreman was taller than Lyle who looked every bit for you thinking 6-3 do you know it all? its my opinion grow up.
Reece said on 24/Mar/17
Click Here. 3.01 ALI is not shorter than Norton at all your pictures Ali could have a disadvantage in footwear. Norton has a better posture he is not taller than Ali all you need to do is look at is the stare down with 0.5 inch boxing shoes. Ali posture is not always the best and Norton no in the Ring Norton actually looked a tad shorter than Ali. if i am deluded then so is Christopher Lee who is 6-5 and said Ali was a tall man and all the Boxers like Cooper and Bugner saying he was 6-3. Click Here. Ali in Fight 3 with Norton and he is at the very least the same if not slightly taller. Sachs if i am so wrong so me a picture of a good angle in the boxing ring not outside we know the footwear could be keyed norton could have a dresser shoe on. both in Flats Ali was actually slightly taller and Foreman was taller than both. i stand by 6-4.Click Here min 6.43 Foreman a inch taller than Norton. my pictures are with both in flats so this is better proof Foreman could be 6-4.
HarrySachs said on 23/Mar/17
Carson clearly Reece is one of those people who just think he knows is all. Just ignore people like that. He is not worth trying to explain anything too. But since you already understand that Foreman is/was 6'3 at his peak then let me show you this. Reece in his child like mind said Ali is 6'3 right? Norton is 6'2 3/4 and is taller than Ali. Here are various pictures in their primes and old age to prove this Click Here Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 22/Mar/17
As listed
Canson said on 22/Mar/17
@Reece: Ali was 6'2.5 tops and that may not be his lowest. Like I said Foreman was a strong 6'3". Don't know why Foreman would downgrade his own height. And the person that met him was younger at that point and a solid 6'3" then. Of course foreman may have had him by .25" but nothing more as it would've been noticeable
Reece said on 21/Mar/17
@Canson.did that person meet Foreman in the 70s. Foreman was a taller than Norton,Ali and Lyle in the RING with Flats on.Many people think Foreman was 6-4 it is far from a silly estimate.Sachs has just got problems with somebody disagreeing with him. i still stand by my opinion.all you need to do is check the stare down to see he had a inch on ALI who was a proper 6-3. Ali towering of the Beatles by like a head is proof. and why did Ali oppenents say he was 6-3. Henry Cooper said Ali was 6-3.5 and he was Taller than Liston who was 6-0.5 a strong 2.5 inches and tall man Chris lee in his book said He was 6-5 and Ali was a tall man who can look him in the eye.
Canson said on 20/Mar/17
@HarrySachs: yes there are always people who enjoy inflating heights as well. Not saying that is Reece but it seems like guys over 6'0" are primary targets to be inflated. Rob has him listed 6'3" he claimed 6'3. And someone who is reliably 6'3" that met him said he's the same height as he is.
Bizzare Oaks said on 20/Mar/17
@ Harrysachs. Harry just stop. he disagrees with your opinion just stop. Foreman to me is 6,3.5 but no more. he was a bit taller than lyle in their fight. Insults are not needed on this site
Danimal said on 20/Mar/17
Foreman was on Saturday Night Live in 1994 when he was 45 years old. The then 6'4" Kevin Nealon was clearly taller than Foreman by quite a noticeable amount. Foreman looked under 6'3" next to Nealon for sure. He was never over a flat 6'3" in his prime. Today at 68 years old he appears to be in the 6'1"-6'2" range.
HarrySachs said on 19/Mar/17
Canson don't even bother with people like Reece. There will always be people who think they know more than they do. As I said I just put up 2 picture of the 6'2 3/4 Norton and Foreman is barely taller. Maybe even the same height. He will still go on and on about this guy being a certain size and Foreman being taller.
HarrySachs said on 19/Mar/17
Lol Reece you are a fool . You can't argue with a fool . Foreman wasn't taller than Lyle. That was the camera angle. I gave you a picture of Norton and Foreman side by side and they are the same height. But hey in your little fantasy world you want to believe Foreman was 6'4 plus even though he said he was 6'3 and he was measured barefooted at 6'3 in his 20s good for you. I will ignore now because you are too pathetic to even type too.
Reece said on 18/Mar/17
Foreman was a inch taller in the Fight no way were they the same height Foreman is wearing a hat in those pictures so I cannot see the Height Difference. Foreman was taller than Lyle who claims 6-3 check the touch gloves on YouTube. I don't mean to keep going back and Forth with You about this. I know Foreman was rounding down when he said 6-3 he was taller than Lyle,Norton,Ali who were all 6-3 or very close. I am not continuing this dissertation. Have a good day harry xxx
harrysachs said on 16/Mar/17
Beautiful story Reece. Click Here There is a better picture of Foreman and Norton. Unlike the picture you put up where Foreman is way closer to the camera. This picture they are right side by side. Amazing how Foreman barely looks taller right. He might even be the same height as the 6'2 3/4 inch Norton. So as I said you are one of those people who think they know more than they know. You will give them facts and they will give you their opinion. Foreman was measured at 6'3 230 pounds as a 20-21 year old. Oh and here is another picture of Norton and Foreman side by side Click Here
Canson said on 13/Mar/17
@Reece: in the 70s he was a strong 6'3". He was never 6'4". That just shows the slew of 6'3" guys claiming 6'4" is out of control
Reece said on 12/Mar/17
You don't seem to get upset when people disagree with you. You think 6-3 and I think 6-4. Foreman was a inch taller so by you saying Norton is 6-2.75 that means Foreman in 6-3.75. They were close in Height but both Foreman and Holmes were a inch taller. Just because I disagree does not mean I don't understand logic
HarrySachs said on 12/Mar/17
Reece you are one of those people who can't understand logic. Foreman was measured barefooted when he was 20. He was 6'3. Foreman was only slightly taller than the 6'2 3/4 Norton but whatever. You will believe what you want to believe.
Reece said on 11/Mar/17
Foreman lost height now days. he looked 6-4 in the 1970s 1980s and early 1990s to me.
Reece said on 11/Mar/17
You know somebody who met Foreman nowdays or 70s. Foreman is easily 6-4 in peak to me but looks more 6-2 nowdays.
Canson said on 9/Mar/17
He's 6'3".Maybe 6'3.25 but not 6'4". I know someone who has met him and said they were identical in height looking directly in the eye
Reece said on 7/Mar/17
Click Here both standing still in the Fight,Foreman is a inch taller and Holmes was taller than Norton too.
Reece said on 7/Mar/17
If Norton is 190cm their is more than 0.25 inches difference it was a full inch difference. 6,3.5 is very possible but I still go for 6,4.
HarySachs said on 7/Mar/17
Reece Norton wasn't 6'3. He was 6'2 3/4 according to himself. That picture you put up off is off keyed. Foreman was only slightly taller than Norton. Measured barefooted when he was 20 George was measured at 6'3 and weighed 230 pounds.
HarySachs said on 7/Mar/17
ArjunaKorale what does your opinion on boxing have anything to do with Foreman's height? But since you brought it up Holmes got called out by Foreman in the late 70's and refused to fight Foreman. I think he knew more about his skill set than you. Ali laid against the ropes ( which wasn't his plane according to Ali) and got lucky. Foreman toyed with Jimmy Young According to Gil Clancy and didn't go for the knock out until until he already was suffering from a heat stroke. You don't know anything about boxing so don't bring it up. But anyway Foreman was 6'3 to 6'3 1/2 tops
Reece said on 4/Mar/17
Click Here. Foreman is taller than 6,3 Norton. Norton is likely not standing properly but look how tall Foreman looks. Foreman is 6,4 for sure.
ArjunaKorale said on 2/Mar/17
George was just around 191 cm or 6 ft 3 (perhaps 6 ft 3.5 at the v most) in his peak fighting days...6 ft 4 or anything above is ludicrous in my book. George was great against smaller, shorter men (as well as giant, slower men like Cooney) who stood right in front of, if you gave Big George lateral movement, speed, elusiveness & guile, he was way out of his depth...that's why Ali & Jimmy Young beat him without too much fuss...and that's why Larry Holmes would have beaten him too...I'd bet my house on it.
Reece said on 25/Feb/17
Foreman 6'4 in the 70s his peak but now clearly shorter likely around the 6'2 mark
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 23/Feb/17
Rob, is a fraction over 6ft3 peak possible?

He may have rounded down slightly
Height Freak said on 19/Feb/17
Harrysachs.Tucker was 6,5 at peak,him and Lennox Lewis were the same Height and Lennox is legit 6,5. to say Ali was under 6,2 is false. the guy is tall by the way he was clearly taller than most oppenents in the Ring i doubt Ali was under 6,3. I dont think he was any more than 6,3 but 6,3 seems good for Ali. Ali was 3 inches taller than 6,0 George chuvalo easily.
Muhammad Ali Fan said on 16/Feb/17
I met Ali in the 1971.i was 6,4.5 at the Time and Ali was not too much shorter but he for sure was not as tall as me. i think he was 6,3 on the Dot i am confident he was no less. it is Strange Foreman said he was 6,3 in his younger years,Norton,Lyle and Ali were 6,3 and Foreman had a inch on all three. Foreman and Holmes both look to be taller than Ali. i think Holmes was 6,4 too in his peak he looked to have a inch on Norton.
Reece said on 11/Feb/17
Click Here Foreman and Ali are very close it could be anywhere from 0.5-1 inches their are pictures of it looking more 0.5inches idm sending more to prove it.
Will Johnson said on 10/Feb/17
Ali was not 6,4 but i struggle to believe under 6,3. Foreman looked to have 2cm on him when they fought. Ali 6,3,Holmes 6,3.5,Foreman 6,4 i think those were the peak heights of the 3, IMO
Reece said on 9/Feb/17
Why would Dundee say Ali was 6'4 in 1967 then. Boxing commentators say Ali was a touch other. Cleveland Williams was 6'3 and Ali was every bit as big as his. Cooper said 6'3.5. Ali was 3 inches taller than Chuvalo in the RING to. Not too much shorter than giant terell. Burner said 6'3. All of his 60s and 70s listing before illness and change of posture know Ali as no less than 6'3. He looks every bit after age 21. Foreman was large he look bigger than 6'3 I think he was 6'4 and Ali was closer to 6'3. Some pictures have Ali and Foreman half a inch in height apart they are close. I respect your opinion but I disagree
Reece said on 9/Feb/17
Terrell was gigantic look at the way he towered over ring oppenents. Pierre Cortez's was 6'4 and Foreman was eye to eye. Foreman was 6'4 in the 70s to me. Ali even got measured and had a tail of the tape of 6'3.5 when on to with wilt chamberlain. You think Ali was under 6'2. Look at him towering of Luther king by 9 inches and the Beatles with flat boxing shoes. Liston was 6'1 and Ali had 2.5 inches on him and no less than 6'0.5. If Ali is your claim then Liston is 5,11 only if Ali is under 6'2. Look at Ali towering over a 5'10 member of the Beatles. It is silly to think Terell is not close to 6'6 he may be shorter but he is certainly no less than 6,5. Ali was listed in his Prime and the 70s at 6'3 and not your under 6,2 claim for good reason
Harrysachs said on 8/Feb/17
Touching story Reece as I said Terrell was never 6'6. That is the height he used. Kind of like Tony Tucker claiming to be 6'5 when he was 6'3. Foreman was measured at 6'3 barefooted. Ali was more than .5 inches shorter. But you are the type of dude who will just believe whatever you want to believe.
Harrysachs said on 8/Feb/17
Good God almighty Foreman was measured barefooted at 6'3 and Ali was clearly at least a inch shorter than Foreman. Could you stop with the 6'4 crap and Terrell was never 6'6. It is just like boxer Jeff Merritt claiming to be 6'5 when he was 6'3 Click Here Anyway this thread is about Foreman not building up Ali because he is your TV hero.

Foreman at peak was 6'3
Tall guy said on 30/Jan/17
wow. never knew Ali was that tall i always thought he was 6,2 but after seeing the Pictures below of Ali and with the Beatles he looks 6,4!
Boxing Fan said on 28/Jan/17
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Ali looks tall in the pictures above. Terell was huge and Ali never look more than 2 inches shorter! this is to all the people who think Ali is 6,1 and 6,2. a 6,1 man could not look so tall next to 6,6 listed terell he would be towered over. Ali looks 9 inches taller the luther king who was 5,6.5. Ali looks a solid 6,3.5 in the pictures above
Boxing Fan said on 28/Jan/17
Thanks Rob that really helps!
Boxing Fan said on 28/Jan/17
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Boxing Fan said on 28/Jan/17
can anybody tell me how to send pictures to caleb heights
Editor Rob: if a link to something like then please use tinyurl or to shorten the link, then paste it into a comment.
Reece said on 25/Jan/17
you think Ali was 6,1.75? how can a man only than tower over George Harrison in flat boxing shoes. Ali was measured on TV with Chamberlin the great basketball player and the Tale of the Tape had him at 6,3.5. if Ali was 6,2 or even less why did a legit tall 6,6 Terell not tower over him. Ali was also taller than George Chuvalo who was 6,0 and he had him by 3 inches. Henry cooper said Ali was 6,3.5. Dundee his own coach said he was 6,4 in 1967 the listings of 6,2 were before Ali was 21. Anything under 6,3 is likely to low. Foreman was 0.5 inches-1 inch taller. Foreman 193cm Ali 191 cm. or Foreman 194cm and Ali 192 cm.
HarrySachs said on 24/Jan/17
Movieguy people will believe what they want to believe. George Foreman was measured at 6'3 and weighed 230 as a 19 amateur. Like you said he was clearly 1 inch taller than Ali when they fought. But some people because of their hero worship over certain people and how they want to act like their TV heroes are bigger than they are. They will believe Ali was 6'4 when clearly Ali was 6'2 at his peak and maybe even slightly shorter.
Reece said on 24/Jan/17
When Dundee stated Ali was 6'2 he was younger. He stated in 1967 when Ali was fully grown men grow in height till 21 at least some of them do. My dad was 6,1 at 17 but he grew to a full 6'4 by the age of 21. Dundee said before the Terrell Fight Ali was 6'4. The 6,2 listing must have been earlier on. Anyway look at Ali towering of the Beatles in flat boxing shoes.look at him with Martin Luther king who was 5,7 and Ali could look 8.5 inches taller. Foreman was tall too he looked half a inch taller than Ali maybe a full inch but nothing more. Ali was 6,3.5 I am sure. 6'3 is possible to but anything under is unlikely highly.
movieguy said on 15/Jan/17
Reece, Angelo Dundee has stated Ali was 6'4'' but he has also stated Ali was 6'2''. I don't why he gave 2 different heights for Ali. Jim Brown the football player and actor said Ali was 6'2''. I think this is more likely. Foreman maybe was an inch taller. Both Ali and Foreman were given as 6'3'' in their prime but when they met in the ring Foreman looked a bit taller. There is a clip of George Foreman on a Bob Hope special posted on YouTube after he won the title and compared to the great comedian who was about 5'10'' I guess he does look a genuinely big guy.
Reece said on 3/Jan/17
Alan Brisco no way was Ali was 6,1.5 in the 1960s-1970s-1980s. Ali was baely 6,0 when he died but in the 60s and 70s no way was Ali any less than 6,3. Foreman was 6,3.5 or 6,4 in peak you can see he has a shade taller than Ali. Dundee said Ali was 6,4 even in 1967! look at Ali in the ring with Terell and tell me if you think he was less than 6,3.
Borats Chicken said on 23/Dec/16
a pic rob pls
HarrySach said on 20/Dec/16
Click Here Ken Norton and Foreman. Foreman is closer to the camera though
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Foreman and Hulk Hogan Click Here
Foreman and President LBJ Click Here
Foreman and Larry Holmes Click Here
Foreman vs Holyfield Click Here
Foreman and Jay Leno Click Here
Foreman and 6'7 Scott Feldman Click Here
Foreman and the 6'2 or 6'3 Donald Trump Click Here
Foreman and Riddick Bowe Click Here
Foreman and 6'4 Kevin Nealon Click Here
Click Here Various pictures including him with George Bush.
HarrySach said on 19/Dec/16
Click Here George Foreman and Magic Johnson

Click Here George Foreman and the listed 6'3 Axel Schulz
Click Here Foreman and the listed 6'5 Gerry Cooney
Flyin said on 6/Dec/16
Clearly shorter than this now, 186cm.
JoMama said on 24/Oct/16
YLYL Sergei Liakhovich is listed at 6'4 on boxing sites second go to the 7:00 mark of that video. Briggs is shorter than Liakovich? Then you are either blind of stupid. In any case Foreman was listed at 6'3 230 pounds as a 19 year older. He was never 6'4. He was clearly slightly shorter than 6'4 Shannon Briggs and clearly 1 1/2 inches shorter than 6'4 1/1 Riddick Bowe.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 19/Sep/16
Peak: 191-192cm
Today: 189-190cm
Brandon said on 12/Sep/16
6'3.5" peak
He is 67 years old so he is probably 6'2" range nowadays.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 28/Aug/16
I think a strong 6ft3 is possible. Could look 6ft4
Jason said on 18/Aug/16
I met George in 1999 and had a picture taken with him. I am exactly 5'10" right out of bed, 5'9 1/2" around midday, and 5'9 1/4" at night. Maybe it was just my perception at the time (or maybe the lighting or posture issues), but I didn't think Foreman looked all that tall; of course, maybe it had to do with his bulk and large build. But if I knew how to do it, I would post a snapshot of the picture of George and I (and my sister); in the photo, George doesn't look 6'3 and definitely not 6'4". And this photo was in '99, so George was barely 50 at the time.
Candyman said on 12/Jul/16
He was listed at 6'3" as a youth but upgraded to 6'4" in his 40's during his comeback. I believe he is somewhere in between the two having seen him in passing a few years ago with his huge sons. He can easily get away with being mistaken for 6'4" to this day.
movieguy said on 25/Jun/16
Stig, Cassius Clay as he was then known was more than 6'1''. I'd give Foreman an inch on Ali when they fought, Foreman had an awesome physique as a young man. He wasn't a gym bunny or steroid freak like many of today's athletes he was just naturally blessed. Most people these days probably think of him as the fat guy who sells grills and won the championship in his 40s but the young Foreman was a superbly conditioned sportsman.
Canson said on 22/Jun/16
@Ed: foreman was 6'3 maybe 6'3 1/4 never a full 6'4. Out of his own mouth he said 6-3. Ali was 6'2.5. There was 1/2-1" tops between them.
ED said on 22/Jun/16
Kev said on 4/Jun/16
I find it funny how so many comments are rude and convinced they can't be wrong. George probably knows how tall he is. Perspective in photos and life can be deceiving. I would be willing to bet he is closer than any of those infallible guesses.
Stig.. said on 4/Jun/16
Cassius Clay was 6ft 1.. theres a good pic of him with Bobby moore who was 5ft 11.. Clay maybe inch & half taller.. 6, 1 Max..
YLYL said on 3/Jun/16
Jo Mama Shannon Briggs is only 6'2 he is shorter then Sergei Liakhovich who is listed 6'3.5 and actually claims it too!
Chucky said on 13/May/16
Saw him 15 years ago, was easily 6 feet 4. I am also 6 feet 4, was eye to eye.
Candyman said on 30/Oct/15
I've seen him in person a few times along with his sons. He seems like a SOLID 6'3" now even with his pronounced slouch when out of the eye of the camera, which (to me) means he was probably close to 6'3.75 in his youth and is around 6'3.25 to 6'3.5 today standing tall.
Chazlinc said on 30/Sep/15
6'4" in 70s prime maybe shorter now. George was a hustler. He also undersold his height and reach. It was part of his schtick. He wouldn't let the commission measure his reach. He'd hunch over to register 6'3" when they measured him.....then in ring Center at the instructions he'd pull back his shoulders and stand up straight..look at the ali and lyle fights...Ron was every bit 6'3"...when George stood up straight he was a full inch...maybe more..taller
Art said on 3/Apr/15
George really impresive me when I saw him for the fist time. That was on March 1977,in San juan P.R., in his fight against Jimmy Young. Easily he was at least 6'3 . In general he was a big & powerful guy.
james said on 4/Feb/15
If foreman was 6'3 at his peak than Ali was really 6'2 and not 6'3 them get instructions from the ref before their fight in ziare ..foreman was an in taller
Jo Mama said on 25/Oct/14
Shannon Brigg is listed at 6'4 which seems about right because he is only slightly shorter than Lennox Lewis who is 6'4 1/2. In any case after Briggs fought Foreman toward the end of Foreman's interview you could see Foreman was close to Briggs height.

Foreman tends to slouch something fierce. Sometime Foreman looks as tall if not taller than 6'3 Larry Holmes then again sometimes he looks shorter.
Alucard said on 24/Oct/14
I think he was around 6'2.5-6'3 max when young during 60s and 70s... Today seems he lost a bit of height, probably 6'2 max... A guy who always slouched a lot also...
Sackballs said on 18/Oct/14
Right Danny then you realize Ken Norton was measured by the marines at 6'2 3/4 so if he was taller than a prime Norton then he had to be taller than that not shorter. Good grief some people are clueless
Danny said on 10/Aug/14
George is about 6'2 and a half, just a shade taller than Ali and Norton. He only looked about an inch taller than Holyfield
MikeHawk said on 1/Apr/14
Here is Ken Norton with George. Given that Norton is 6'2¾. He looks to have a little edge on Foreman. Click Here
apa rava said on 26/Oct/13
I think George was about 6.3 and a half. He is about one inch taller then muhammad ali and ken norton, both of them were about 6.3(between 190-191 cm).

I have no doubt that George is strong 6.3 and a half. maybe even 6.4.

he was 192 or 192.5 cm

Ali was about 190 or 190.5
Sackballs said on 30/Jul/13
Ken Norton was 6'2 3/4 and Foreman was taller than him so in his prime Foreman was 6'3 at least in of story.
Rey said on 18/Jul/13
Big George was never 6"3"--the height of Kevin Sorbo --no way!! I have seem them both. Without the afro--he was 6'2" in his prime and a weak 6'2". He more big and wide than tall. Holyfield another misleading --not even close to 6'2"
alan brisco said on 4/Mar/13
bob, i always said that holyfield was not so tall as listed,6'2.5". He is shorter, for sure. I saw a paper where holyfield was listed 6'1". It was for the olympic games 1984 in L.A., Holyfield at that time was 22 y.o., so no more growing. So he is 6ft-6'1", no way he is taller than 6'1". He had a good advantage on tyson, who is realistic tall 5'9"-5'10". But he was towered by lennox lewis, who is a legit 6'4.5"- 6'5". About Foreman i think he was 6'2"-6'3" at his peak, probably 6'2.5". He was approx. an inch taller than alì, who was always overestimated, i said alì was more realistic tall 6'1.5".
Sackballs said on 2/Mar/13
Funny when people will dispute you about something like they know it is a fact. Foreman in his prime was always listed as 6'3 and was most likely that in his prime. In his comeback with all of the weight he gained he was most likely shorter.
bob said on 20/Jan/13
U idiot if you check evander holyfield with 6'"1 will smith. You can easily see will is atleast 2inches taller and that would put evander at max 5"11, so if u say he is 6"2 your wrong and if you say foreman is 6"4 your wrong. If u do say foreman is 2-3inches taller. That would put him at 6"2 max. Lets not forget that boxers bull**** so much about their height so take that into consideration.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 17/Sep/12
I think he may have been 6ft3.5(192cm) at peak
Mark said on 8/Feb/12
George Foreman has never been 6'3" maybe 6'2" in his prime.....before he returned to boxing he came to my high school in Houston. First thought, this guy is big, but not that tall. My friend Eric who is 6'3" and was on the swim team and basketball team stopped to say hello. Eric always wore "Chucks" --no heel and had more than an inch on the champ. I will say this...George does slouch when he walks, but was never 6'3".
ArjunaKorale said on 21/Jan/12
You have got this listing spot on, Rob! At no point in his career was Foreman 6ft 4 (163cm) tall, as the great man readily admits to himself! Those people who cite 6ft 4 as his height are only deluding themselves (the fools!). A lot of the heights of heavyweight boxers that "Marcus" mentions need to be downgraded e.g. Ron Lyle was actually more like 6ft 2 (188cm) tall & Muhammed Ali at his peak was around 6ft 2 (188 or 189cm) & never a full 6ft 3 tall. Good on you, Rob, for sticking to your guns & not letting anyone change your mind on Foreman's height listing (I believe you & the team are right)!!!
Marcus said on 25/Oct/11
George was 6 ft 3.5 minimum but I think he actually was 6'4. Ron Lyle,Ken Norton were both 6'3 and George looked an inch taller than each. Pierre Coetzer was 6'4 and George looked to be the exact same height! Holyfield is an even 6'2 and George was at least 2 inches taller. Michael Moorer was 6'1 and Foreman was 3 inches taller. George was 6'4 fully grown.
Balthier said on 30/Sep/11
"Sandra says on 3/Feb/11
I met George Foreman at an auto shop while he was making a commercial in Houston, TX. He didn't impress me as being 6'3". He looked more like 5'10". I am 5'9". And he had a big tummy. He smiled a lot." Ffs, get a grip.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 24/Aug/11
Minimum 6"3 in his prime, possibly 192cm.
neal said on 18/Jul/11
they never were the same height
you're absolutely right.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 28/Apr/11
192cm peak
190cm now
Mathew said on 17/Mar/11
Yeah he was 6'3", not much debate about it.
d wade said on 5/Feb/11
lol 5,10 what a fake story yes and tim allen is 5,4 Click Here
Sandra said on 3/Feb/11
I met George Foreman at an auto shop while he was making a commercial in Houston, TX. He didn't impress me as being 6'3". He looked more like 5'10". I am 5'9". And he had a big tummy. He smiled a lot.
AAAA said on 22/Nov/10
Here we go... Thanks Rob, I've always wanted to bring up Big Georges height.

So here he (george) is with Harry Carson (listed 6'2 all over the internet) and Thomas Hearns,(listed at 6'1, so believe he may have actually been taller and subtracte an inch to entice welterweights to fight him) and monster Spencer Haywood

Click Here

But, here we have Carson with Derek Jeter (I think even the legendary Viper said Jeter was 6'3) Click Here

And here we have him with LT, also listed here and, for the majority, accepted to be 6'3 (Click Here)

IMO, Carson was a full 6'3 man when he was younger, and still is at worst a weak 6'3 man. The 6'2 listing confuse the hell out of me, given the photos I just showed.

Back to Big George. He is still a 6'3 guy in that photo, when he is older and much heavier. I don't think he got any taller after he was 24 (age during The Rumble), especially considering that after he retired from boxing at 27 he ballooned up to 300+lbs for 10 years before returning to fighting. If anything, I'd be more likely to believe he had shruken a 1/2 in by this point.

I always figured him to have been 6'3.5 (maybe even a full 6'4 in his youth) and a solid 6'3 when he returned for his second career. Here he is claimed 6'2.5 Holyfield (6'1 on this site, i believe he is like 6'1.5 at his peak when this photo was taken) and he looks about 1.5in taller to me.

Just food for thought guys. Haven't posted in forever but I still follows these convos on heights once in a blue moon. Hope all is well, especially with you Rob. Glad to see the site still runs

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