How tall was John Wayne - Page 2

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6ft 3.32in (191.3cm)
Cobra said on 23/Mar/17
"Often billed as 6'4", although Wayne said his exact height was 6'3 3/4."

According to his IMDB page, not sure of the source.
James said on 19/Mar/17
The Quiet Man could never be made today.
Tom said on 17/Mar/17
John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara are my two favorite actors. The Quite Man well what else can yo say. One of the best movies of all time.
Johan said on 11/Mar/17
As listed, a guy like him wouldn't downgrade himself, he gave his height to the quarter inch ffs. As for the guys saying he never looked even 6'4" with lifts, I remember reading a paper where the journalist described him as 6'7"-6'8" with cowboyboots and hat ofc. LOL. Under 6'3".

"A huge man both of girth and height" Something along those lines.
Cal said on 18/Feb/17
James... you seem to have a thing for John Wayne. It's quite distracting from the rest of the conversation. Get well soon.
James said on 17/Feb/17
Ron Howard is 5'7". Why are you not posting this???
Editor Rob: James, you are on thin ground with the perpetual lift claims ☠️ quite a few folk have commented on it, and I would hope you reign it in a bit, thanks 👍
Bruno said on 13/Feb/17
Get me that photo James please, I'd love to see it. Ron Howard must be only 5'6" if so and if that is the case Henry Winkler wouldn't be much more than 5'3".
James said on 12/Feb/17
Wayne was less than 6'3" after he had two ribs removed in 1964. You can tell he was wearing lifts in "The Sons of Katie Elder" where he was very miscast.
Bruno said on 10/Feb/17
Ya see James the barefoot shot with 68yr Wayne and 22yr Ron Howard proves Wayne was around 193. Get me them pics of the lift wearing.
James said on 7/Feb/17
Four inch lifts don't actually make a person look four inches taller. Michael Landon wore four inch lifts throughout "Bonanza" and "Little House on the Prairie" yet still only looked 5'9" maximum.
James said on 7/Feb/17
Wayne was never 6'4". So many people said he wore lifts - Paul Picerni, Capucine, Robert Mitchum, Bobby Darin, Glen Campbell, Rock Hudson etc.
Importer said on 7/Feb/17
i meant 6'4 + 4inch..
Importer said on 7/Feb/17
6'4 with 4inch lifts? That must have been something in those days
James said on 7/Feb/17
Stewart looked taller in "The Man Who Shot Liberty valance" and he was wearing ordinary shoes while Wayne had boots with big heels.
meezemaker said on 6/Feb/17
Just watch that photograph with James Stewart while being around 70 years old both, an inch still less for Wayne. 188-189, and still an huge hat to look bigre.

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meezemaker said on 2/Feb/17
Always looks 4cm smaller than Rock Hudson...considering he had lifts, i guess 188 -189 cm.
meezemaker said on 1/Feb/17
The only way tout know his height is tout watch the scene in thé movie With the 5'5 ursula andress. Both barefoot. No way, no more than 8-9 inches difference.

This man who was hating small People was obsessed by looking very tall. He was probably not feeling confident at 188 cm...
James said on 29/Jan/17
That was the height his character claimed to be in "The Quiet Man".
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 27/Jan/17
I've seen 6ft4½(194cm) listings for Wayne
James said on 16/Jan/17
Lol, obviously Wayne wasn't going to say publicly that he hated Sinatra.

He liked Dean Martin but he never liked Sinatra. His public comments on "The Execution of Private Slovik" forced Sinatra to abandon the film, and caused embarrassment to the Kennedy campaign - as Wayne intended.
Mark(5'9.25 said on 14/Jan/17
@James Um dude, Wayne did like Sinatra.

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I'm not sure where you get the idea of Wayne having a big fight, but the quote where Wayne said "I like sinatra" is enough for me to disagree with you.
Mark(5'9.25 said on 14/Jan/17
@Arch Ohh! That makes sense now! I did look into this guy's pasted behind the scenes and that he wouldn't shoot people out of the blue in respect.

Edit* this guy was comfortably over 6'3" and nearer 6'4" when I watched his movie with Peak Clint Eastwood.
Mark(5'9.25 said on 14/Jan/17
@ArchbOhhh! That makes sense now! I did look into this guy's pasted behind the scenes and that he wouldn't shoot people out of the blue in respect.
James said on 11/Jan/17
He just gave 6'3.75" as his height, he never looked more than 6'3" even with lifts.
berta said on 10/Jan/17
well the height claim was very specific so that was probably his height and he looked it
James said on 8/Jan/17
Wayne didn't like Sinatra, he even forced Sinatra not to hire a blacklisted screenwriter.
Sandy Cowell said on 8/Jan/17
Oh no! It's happened again! I'll have to think of a suitable synonym. I'll have "giggle"! Let's hope it doesn't look like that unpronounceable word...👹🙊😖
Sandy Cowell said on 7/Jan/17
What on Earth has my autocorrect been up to now?
That insane and unpronounceable word was meant to be 'sfugoogle'!
I had to go on my vibrostation for 15 minutes on 43 (which is very fast indeed!) in order to give myself the good shaking up I needed when I read that! I've calmed down now, otherwise I might have even started this comment like so: "Oh ⚾🏉⚽🏈's? What on Earth has my autocorrect...?"
Well you catch my drift! There's nothing quite like a good shaking up at half-past-two in the morning! 🌇 😨🚿 🌆
Sandy Cowell said on 7/Jan/17
@ Arch Stanton - It must be unbelievably annoying when picking a fight with you becomes a mark of bravery! Reading that did afford me a
little sfugoogle!
No wonder Mr Wayne developed a mistrust for short guys if they were using him as some kind of benchmark!
I've never heard that he had to put up with that before, but it doesn't surprise me really!
movieguy said on 6/Jan/17
I think the Widmark quote was made in jest. John Wayne always seemed to be the biggest guy in his films so probably preferred being around smaller people. It fitted with his image as the big strong cowboy. As for the height estimate I'd say under 6'4'' but probably not my much.
Arch Stanton said on 6/Jan/17
That would explain it though, so many little guys probably picked fights with Wayne and developed a mistrust for short people.
Arch Stanton said on 6/Jan/17
Mark(5'9.25 said on 27/Nov/16
Rob, he looks pretty tall, but it is mentioned that Wayne would hate small people. I probably wouldn't want to meet him.
Editor Rob: Mark, some men have a fear of smaller men and vice versa.

Animals put humans to shame at times, they don't give a damn what you look like.

Strange though, as a 6'4 guy shouldn't really have reason to dislike somebody just because they're not near their height. They would appreciate being very tall and that some people are shorter. If he disliked/distrusted shorter guys perhaps it was because hwen younger he had a lot of fight challenges from short/scrappy guys in bars. There are always a lot of those types who pick on big guys to try to prove their worth as a man. Perhaps Wayne faced a lot of Napoleon types, so developed a dislike for guys under 6 ft over time? I read that Wayne generally got on well with Frank Sinatra aside from one carpark incident, and Sinatra was 5'7.5 tops!
Bill said on 5/Jan/17
I met John Wayne on the set of The Alamo when I was sixteen years old and stood 6' 1" at the time. He was at least two inches taller than me and he was wearing Indian moccasins!
Mark(5'9.25") said on 16/Dec/16
In that case, I'm glad I did not meet Wayne in person because imagine him seeing a 5'9" person.

Edit* Like I said, I don't know much about the guy, but it seems like Wayne doesn't have any friends who are guys that are 5'9" or lower. Since I haven't checked out his movie, I'm going to end it here since everyone here knows about him more so than I do.
Mark(5'9.25") said on 16/Dec/16
In that case, I'm glad I did not meet Wayne in person because imagine him seeing a 5'9" person.

Edit* Like I said, I don't know much about the guy, but it seems like Wayne doesn't have any guys who are 5'9" or lower. Since I haven't checked out his movie, I'm going to end it here since everyone here knows about him more so than I do.
Mark(5'9.25") said on 16/Dec/16
In that case, I'm glad I did not meet Wayne in person because imagine him seeing a 5'9" person.
James said on 8/Dec/16
Richard Widmark said small guys made Wayne angry.
Bruno said on 6/Dec/16
Mark(5'9.25 said on 27/Nov/16
Rob, he looks pretty tall, but it is mentioned that Wayne would hate small people. I probably wouldn't want to meet him.

Who posts this rubbish.
Mark(5'9.25 said on 1/Dec/16
You have a point Rob. While I wouldn't want to detest humanity like that, I do agree that some people are prideful and mean.
Mark(5'9.25 said on 27/Nov/16
Rob, he looks pretty tall, but it is mentioned that Wayne would hate small people. I probably wouldn't want to meet him.
Editor Rob: Mark, some men have a fear of smaller men and vice versa.

Animals put humans to shame at times, they don't give a damn what you look like.
LoganNoll1996 said on 9/Nov/16
tex, Wayne was slightly taller than Tyrone Power Sr. But he was wearing flats to Tyrone's boots(big ones I might add).

Nice try though.
Bruno said on 5/Nov/16
Ah Text the lift obsessed poster is back hurrah.
tex said on 3/Nov/16
Paul Picerni, the great character actor said in his book that Wayne wore lifts, so did Bobby Darin, Rock Hudson, Capucine and even Ron Howard. So many have said Wayne wore lifts-it has to be true. If you watch him as a young man in the Big Trail with Tyrone Power Sr., who was listed at 6'1", Wayne is not really taller.
James said on 3/Nov/16
Wayne was 6'3" at his peak.
Mark said on 2/Nov/16
Either way, this guy looked an honest 6'3.75". if he wanted to round up, he can since 6'3.75" isn't far off 6'4".
Arch Stanton said on 21/Oct/16
Clint and Wayne always looked the exact same height to me on screen.
Mark said on 19/Oct/16
Rob, I don't know much about this guy, but who he measure taller than Peak Clint Eastwood and be similar to Lee Pace who i consider a full 6'4"
Editor Rob: I think Wayne was honest with the 6ft 3.75 claim..naturally any other occasion you'd round it to 6ft 4, I think Clint was similar, a bit shy of 6ft 4.
James said on 16/Oct/16
He never injured his shoulder, that was just a story.
James said on 16/Oct/16
Actually, Wayne did always wear a wig in public after 1960, except at Gary Cooper's funeral and when he visited Vietnam in 1966. He said it was so fans wouldn't be disappointed.
LoganNoll1996 said on 14/Oct/16
Now you're just talking rubbish, James. He DID have a football career in High School and USC before he injured his shoulder during a body-surfing accident. As to whether or not they measured him can be open to speculation. Would either of those places he attended even still have his measurements/statistics?
newbie said on 14/Oct/16
Whilst some of the lifts comments can be dismissed I think there are answers to some of the others. As has been pointed out, his height seemed to go above 6'3-6'4 range but never below it. So if anything he wore lifts when wanting to add to that not reach it. If we're going to believe the 'he refused to work with x' stories then I'll assume we're also going to have to believe the ones about the number of big guys, much bigger than him, e.g. James Arness, he continually wanted to work with. And he didn't have a problem with being shorter than guys like Arness and Hudson, so the idea he wore lifts out of vanity doesn't stack up. It is also well known that the hair piece was just for films and he didn't wear it in his normal life, preferring hats and didn't have an issue with people knowing he was bald either. Harry Carey Jr covered the walk in his book about the John Ford stock company and it was invented for Wayne by someone else, early in his leading man career, long before suggestions of lifts and was designed to give him a kind of strut/stalking walk because he struggled to be comfortable walking on film and presenting the right image doing it. It is quite possible that he wore lifts when working with other actors he knew were wearing them, to emphasise the height difference again. He also wore them to draw away from the fact he no longer had the shape of body to give the impression he wanted. The Ron Howard photo, where there is direct comparison, with bare feet etc is about as much proof as anyone should need of his height near the end of his life and he wasn't getting taller at that stage. Or are people going to suggest the man had lifts stitched under his skin? Later in life when he was struggling to be the imposing character he'd become he may have been wearing lifts, but there is the bare foot and earlier beach shoes evidence from earlier in his life that he wasn't far off a genuine 6'4 man. As for Mitchum's comments, aside from anything else this was a guy who gave his own height at 6'0 because he didn't have a clue but knew he was above average and 6'0 sounded right. The photos of Wayne and Stewart constantly show that slight edge from early years into the end and the way that stayed pretty much consistent throughout would be difficult for him to have balanced his own and Stewart's loss of height with lifts that maintained a constant difference. Again the evidence is there that he probably was around 6'4 at his peak.
James said on 11/Oct/16
They might not have actually measured him. I heard he dodged being drafted into the football team.
Don said on 10/Oct/16
We keep seeing all of this guessing about his height. Hasn't anyone ever thought of checking his college football stats? Wouldn't they have a true record of height and weight?
CNROM89 said on 5/Oct/16
Rob, what dou you think about average shoe size for a 6'4 guy?

I am 6'4 (193.1 at night) and ı wear 12 UK. İs it normal?
Editor Rob: yeah you might find a 11.5-12UK a more typical shoe size for 6ft 3-4 men.
Borats Chicken said on 4/Oct/16
'he had small feet'

Rob, possible for a man whos near 6'4 to have size 10.5 or 11 1/2 to 12?
Editor Rob: yeah some big guys have small feet
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 25/Sep/16
He could look just 6ft3 at times also
Arch Stanton said on 28/Aug/16
When I say Harry Cohn and George Raft were more hated in Hollywood, I mean by people in the industry, literally IN Hollywood. Both would have been more widely disliked that Wayne inside Hollywood.
Tyler said on 25/Aug/16
Wayne had not had several ribs removed in 1945.
Tom said on 23/Aug/16
It's foolish to even imagine him wearing lifts. Watch They Where Expendable. Wayne towers over 6' Robert Montgomery.
Disco1964 said on 21/Aug/16
This is what I found about the height of John Wayne

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6'4" and 240 Ibs
Diana 107 said on 19/Aug/16
What difference does it make whether or not Wayne wore lifts? He was a "giant" of men! He brought acting to great "heights",
James said on 5/Aug/16
It's a different "Tom".
LoganNoll1996 said on 30/Jul/16
So what finally convinced you Wayne was 6'3.75" - 6'4", Tom?
Tom said on 21/Jul/16
Great photos! Thanks Gonzalo.
Gonzalo said on 20/Jul/16
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I don´t think Wayne wore lifts on his wedding day. Looks tall to me

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Wayne and Sidney Poitier. I guess Wayne has ground advantage. Wayne without his rug.

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Wayne and John Ford. Beautiful picture

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Tom said on 19/Jul/16
James, give it up. You're full of it.
James said on 19/Jul/16
You can tell Wayne was wearing lifts in "The Sons of Katie Elder" in the long shot of him walking towards the camera.

Kirk Douglas wasn't actually that complimentary about Wayne until long after his death. He only worked with him because his career had declined so much after "Spartacus".
Tom said on 18/Jul/16
James, you might be able to tell, but no one else can.

George Raft was hated by those who worked with him. Kirk Douglas, God bless him, was not very popular with those he worked with because he was reportedly a pain to work with. But Douglas, a very strong liberal Democrat, really respected Wayne. The two worked well together. Wayne had the highest respect for Douglas who is amazing. The man will probably live to be 100! I had the pleasure of meeting him many years ago when he was signing a book he wrote. He was extremely nice.
James said on 18/Jul/16
Most people outside Hollywood had never heard of Cohn. Wayne was the most hated man in Hollywood due to his support for the illegal US involvement in an unwinnable war in Vietnam.
Arch Stanton said on 18/Jul/16
Harry Cohn and George Raft would have been more widely disliked than Wayne!!
James said on 17/Jul/16
You could tell Wayne was wearing lifts in "The Sons of Katie Elder".
Tom said on 16/Jul/16
James is ignorant. If Wayne was the most hated person outside Hollywood, then how come he ranked at the top for drawing people into movie theaters? And for decades! As for being hated the most in Hollywood, that's utter nonsense. He was extremely well liked. But more importantly, he was respected.

James, do us all a big favor by taking your political views to a political forum. Politics has nothing to do with a person's height.
James said on 15/Jul/16
He lost height as he aged, especially after having a lung and two ribs removed.
Tom said on 14/Jul/16
It's silly to believe a man close to or at 6-4 would wear lifts.
Bruno said on 13/Jul/16
James said on 11/Jul/16
Wayne was actually the most hated person in Hollywood.

I think sir you need for your own sake to stop posting here. We get it that you don't like the Big Fella.
Tom said on 13/Jul/16
Lifts are not invisible. In order to have a padded insert, the sides of the shoe must be higher, sometimes by an inch or more. The angle of the foot changes.
James said on 13/Jul/16
Most people outside Hollywood had never heard of Curtiz or Cohn, but they knew Wayne. His infamous support for blacklisting, McCarthy, the Iranian and Guatemalan coup d'etats, the Korean War, the Bay of Pigs invasion, the Vietnam War, Nixon, the Watergate coverup etc ensured he was hated more than any other movie actor.
Arch Stanton said on 13/Jul/16
The Sons of Katie Elder is another Wayne film where he looked taller than 6'4. In some scenes in that he looked more 6'5-6'6. Dean Martin wore lifts in that film, I suspect that most of the cast did.
Arch Stanton said on 13/Jul/16
In his films where he wore dress shoes, I've never seen any evidence of Wayne wearing lifts. I certainly don't think he was a habitual lift wearer, but as I say, in some westerns I do think it's possible he had an extra boost. As I say he made Dean Martin look 5 ft 8 range in some scenes in Rio Bravo and in the Fighting Kentuckian made 5'11.5-6' Oliver Hardy look 5'10.5-5'11. He looked 6 ft 5 with Oliver Hardy. And Dean Martin usually wore lifts in his films, most of the films of his I've seen he's obviously wearing lifts. You can't say that about Wayne.
Arch Stanton said on 13/Jul/16
"Tom said on 10/Jul/16
John Wayne never wore lifts. "

How can you be so certain? I've not seen any PROOF that Wayne wore lifts, but we also can't be certain he didn't boost his height in s few films. A lot of actors wore lift cowboy boots in westerns to look more imposing. It's not impossible that Wayne wore bigger boots in some films to look even bigger. Doesn't really matter. The point is that he was genuinely close to 6'4 legitimately.
Tom said on 12/Jul/16
You're proof, James?

I believe lots of people were hated more. Take director Michael Curtiz. He was despised by most actors who worked in one of the many features he directed. And no one was more hated than Columbia Pictures chief Harry Cohn.
James said on 12/Jul/16
Lifts are invisible on the outside. No photographs were allowed of Wayne breathing through an oxygen mask after 1964, or riding a trailer when his stunt double rode over a fence at the end of "True Grit".
James said on 11/Jul/16
Wayne was actually the most hated person in Hollywood.
Tom said on 10/Jul/16
John Wayne never wore lifts. It started out as a joke that was taken to extreme levels of lunacy by people who couldn't stand his politics. And which director said he wore lifts? Show us proof. And please post photos showing him wearing lifts. You'll discover you can't because they don't exist. And no, there is no such thing as invisible lifts.
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jul/16
Wayne genuinely was near 6'4 I think, I've seen probably 75% of his films and looked it in every film except The Big Trail. But given that a major part of his image was being a man mountain figure, I do believe that in some of his westerns he added some extra height just to look that imposing. He did have a thing about size, and that was a major part of who he was, so him occasionally wearing boots with a lift isn't impossible. But he was too big to have only been 6'2 flat.
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jul/16
Shootist said on 9/Jul/16
The Duke is one of my all time favorite actors (and I even share many of his political views. I mean Wayne was an old school conservative, not extremists of any kind), but reading some of these comments are…interesting to say at least. I mean it’s interesting to see that there still exists some kind of a fan denial over the fact that John Wayne indeed did wear lifts. It’s not just some ”joke” Robert Mitchum told, but many actors and directors have said it about Wayne. And there is nothing wrong with that – many actors of all heights wears lifts as we know. That’s Hollywood. Past and present.

As for his real height, I cannot be sure how tall John Wayne was, but I’m guessing 6ft 2” is about right. (6' 4" figures are with lifts or set-up). IIRC his son said that Wayne was 6-2.

You can't be much of a fan then. He was barefoot in the Shootist and still looking at least 6'3. And in flat boat shoes, no lifts with 6'1.5 Lee Marvin in Donovan's Reef and looking 6'4 on the nose. I do believe he had a boost in his boots in a few films though, I don't think it's a running joke and made up as you say. In Rio Bravo for instance in some scenes he makes 5'10 ish Dean Martin look 5 ft 8 range, so I think it was clear he had to have been close to 6'4 but often had a booster or wore big boots to pull off nearer 6'6. But I doubt he ever wore "4 inch lifts".
Bruno said on 9/Jul/16
Shootist where is the proof JW wore lifts, there is not one photo that shows this NOT ONE. Wayne acted with taller men, James Arness, Rock Hudson, Jim Hutton, Alan Napier, Mike Mazurki, Chuck Connors, Fess Parker, Henry Brandon etc.

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Check at 1:40 his son Ethan says he stood 6'4''.
Shootist said on 9/Jul/16
The Duke is one of my all time favorite actors (and I even share many of his political views. I mean Wayne was an old school conservative, not extremists of any kind), but reading some of these comments are…interesting to say at least. I mean it’s interesting to see that there still exists some kind of a fan denial over the fact that John Wayne indeed did wear lifts. It’s not just some ”joke” Robert Mitchum told, but many actors and directors have said it about Wayne. And there is nothing wrong with that – many actors of all heights wears lifts as we know. That’s Hollywood. Past and present.

As for his real height, I cannot be sure how tall John Wayne was, but I’m guessing 6ft 2” is about right. (6' 4" figures are with lifts or set-up). IIRC his son said that Wayne was 6-2.

Yet, even without lifts Wayne was a very imposing character and that’s why he gained attention with his obsession for extra height and lifts. One would think he really did not need them in the first place, but if the Duke himself felt he needed to be tallest man on the set, who are we to judge.

Great site, btw.John Wayne and other actors are not the only ones obsessed with height. Apparently we all are. :)
LoganNoll1996 said on 7/Jul/16
Wayne was one of the most respected celebrities in Hollywood when it came to politics, Tom. He stuck to his guns yet respected other people and their opinions. And you're right, you can't dismiss his character whether or not you disagree with his political opinions. The man was too modest. It's a shame we don't have many people like him anymore.
Gonzalo said on 7/Jul/16
I think there is a lot of garbage about Wayne beliefs, wether you like them or hate them. I mean there are several cases of left wing actors who respected Wayne and liked him. Lauren Bacall or Kate Hepburn worked with him and spoke marvellous things about Wayne. Robert Aldrich was also a democrat and said Wayne was great man and a true friend. Gregory Peck, Elizabeth Taylor or Kirk Douglas supported the motion of award him the Congressional Gold Medal.
Rock Hudson said Wayne was an angel.
What I mean to say is that he wasn´t as bad, cruel and intolerant person as many people want us to believe. He had his beliefs but respected others. And others respected him
Tom said on 5/Jul/16
Dmytryk was hardly a sterling citizen. He ended up naming names in order to get off the blacklist. So did Elia Kazan. At Least Wayne remained true his principles and never double crossed people. You might disagree with his politics, but you cannot dismiss his character.
James said on 3/Jul/16
Yes Wayne personally ruined Dmytryk's life along with Carl Foreman, Stanley Kramer and many other patriotic Americans.
Dan said on 1/Jul/16
The director Edward Dmytryk stated in an interview back in the 90's that he didn't agree with Wayne's political views, but thought he was a great actor, and "...he was 6'4" and moved like an acrobat."
Tom said on 23/Jun/16
Wayne was wearing built up shoes in that terrible film "Blood Alley".
LoganNoll1996 said on 23/Jun/16
6'3.75" - 6'4". No more, no less. Was way too close to Mike Mazurki in height to have been any shorter than this.
Unsub 5'10" said on 22/Jun/16
Standing next to Chuck Connors, Arness, and Henry Fonda, I had the impression he was not over 6' 3, on the other hand he had 2.5 inches on Lee Marvin who I think was 1.84-85m, so, yeah, Wayne could've been 6'3", sure thing....6'3" was pretty much like 6'5" today.
Tom said on 21/Jun/16
He was never 6'4". He was 6'3" at his peak and wore boots with big heels. He was shorter than Rock Hudson.
miko said on 20/Jun/16
Surely if Wayne was a lift wearer, at 6'4 he'd have been looking 6'6 range at times and that never seemed to happen.

Against other 6'4 guys he just about held his own through his career, whether that was footwear orientated who knows.
James said on 17/May/16
Wayne was 6'3". He was only slightly taller than James Stewart in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" because he was wearing cowboy boots with lifts, while Stewart had ordinary shoes.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 15/May/16
Same range as Eastwood, near 6ft4. He'd get irritated if he had to work with a taller actor because he always prided himself on being the biggest, baddest youknowwhat around
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 13/May/16
194cm out of bed, Rob?
Editor Rob: 6ft 4.5-.75 maybe...
Gonzalo said on 11/May/16
Very, very hard to believe Wayne was under 1`90. 1`87 sounds unrealistic to me. The debate for me is between 1-90 or 1´93.
Sixseven said on 4/May/16
Gary Cooper 189,John Wayne 187,all books says it.
Gonzalo said on 27/Apr/16
Worden looked tall to me. At least 1`85. He was very funny in The searchers
LoganNoll1996 said on 26/Apr/16
Is it possible that we can get a page for Hank Worden, Rob? He was in a lot of John Wayne films and is interestingly described as 6'1.5" even though he looked shorter than that next to Wayne. I would say he was 5'11" - 6'0" range.
Tom said on 24/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was 6'1". It was 180,20 who said Wayne was 6'2", not me.
LoganNoll1996 said on 22/Apr/16
Lee Marvin at 6'1" would put Wayne at 6'3.5" which is still taller than what you're claiming him to be(6'2-6'3). But Lee Marvin was 6'1.5" putting Wayne at 6'4". Wayne himself wrote down 6'3.75" as his height and he certainly does look it in a lot of his films even in barefoot scenes. I still will continue to describe him as 6'4".

If Wayne was only 6'2-6'3 then everyone in Hollywood is, according to you(Tom), 1-2" shorter than what Rob has them listed at - and a lot of people agree with Rob's listings.
Tom said on 21/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was 6'1".
LoganNoll1996 said on 18/Apr/16
6'2" peak for Wayne is ridiculous. He was taller than near 6'2" actors like Ward Bond and Lee Marvin by 2-2.5 inches even when in flats. Not to mention he looked towering even when next to 6'2" guys. 6'3" peak is debatable since there's an image online where he was fractionally taller than Stewart who himself was 6'3".
Bruno said on 18/Apr/16
Wayne might have worn "half-inch lifts" so he looked taller compared to other actors in the film like James Stewart and Richard Boone,

What good would that be to a man that stood at nearly 76''.
James said on 18/Apr/16
Bacall was wearing heels.
180,20 said on 17/Apr/16
6"2-6"3 on his prime.... No More Than that...
Bruno said on 16/Apr/16
LoganNoll1996 said on 16/Apr/16
I need EVIDENCE, not a simple claim like Ron Howard being 5'7" peak when clearly he wasn't. He was noticably taller than Lauren Bacall in "The Shootist" and she's 5'7.5" so I am to believe she's only 5'5.5" then since Ron Howard was 5'7"? I will admit that Wayne was a flat 6'3" in that film but he was in his late 60s, was overweight, and developed health problems so he clearly lost some height.

6'3.75" - 6'4" at peak and down to 6'3" by his later years.
Tom said on 15/Apr/16
Ron Howard is actually 5'7".

Wayne might have worn half-inch lifts so he looked taller compared to other actors in the film like James Stewart and Richard Boone.
LoganNoll1996 said on 13/Apr/16
Ron is around 5'7 - 5'8 nowadays but was definitely 5'9 in his younger years and was completely DWARFED by a barefoot Wayne who was in his late 60s at the time. I need more than just empty claims by other celebrities and celebheights contributors to convince me that Wayne wore lifts. Cause there's evidence to prove otherwise such as his barefoot scenes in "Donovan's Reef" and "The Shootist".
Bruno said on 13/Apr/16
James said on 12/Apr/16
Ron Howard is 5'7".

We will have to downgrade every actor's peak height Rob because James says so.

What height is Henry Winkler 5' tall?
James said on 12/Apr/16
Ron Howard is 5'7".
Bruno said on 11/Apr/16
LoganNoll1996 said on 10/Apr/16
Fact is that he didn't look much shorter barefoot than he did with shoes on. Was well over 2 inches taller than a 6'1.5" Lee Marvin in "Donovan's Reef" and he was barefoot and sometimes in flats throughout the majority of the movie.

And how do we know he didn't just wear 0.25" lifts to bring his barefoot 6'3.75" height up to the full 6'4"? Everyone assumes he wears 2-4" lifts which is a load of crap.

Well said but you are never going to convince these people who believe JW wore lifts otherwise. Yet ask them to produce evidence that he did and they just talk BS. All one needs to do is look at a barefoot Wayne in 1976 The Shootist and see him tower over a 22 year old Ron Howard who is of average height at 5'9''.
LoganNoll1996 said on 10/Apr/16
Fact is that he didn't look much shorter barefoot than he did with shoes on. Was well over 2 inches taller than a 6'1.5" Lee Marvin in "Donovan's Reef" and he was barefoot and sometimes in flats throughout the majority of the movie.

And how do we know he didn't just wear 0.25" lifts to bring his barefoot 6'3.75" height up to the full 6'4"? Everyone assumes he wears 2-4" lifts which is a load of crap.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 10/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was 6ft1-2 range peak, possibly closer to the latter (6ft1¾). I think John Wayne had 2in on him so this height fits.
James said on 8/Apr/16
Capucine said Wayne wore lifts in 1960, five or six years before Mitchum worked with Wayne.

Wayne wore a wig from 1948 onwards so it isn't surprising he wore lifts as well.
Gonzalo said on 8/Apr/16
Lee Marvin looked very similar in height to Gene Hackman or William Hurt, who are undoubtedly in the 1´86-88 area.
LoganNoll1996 said on 7/Apr/16
Just because someone says something doesn't make it true(rumors). If I'm not mistaken, Robert Mitchum was the one to start the lifts controversy. But it could've been as much as a joke poking fun at Wayne's height since he was known for being so towering next to his costars.

He was wearing flats in "The Big Trail" and was still taller than a 6'1-6'2 Ian Keith and a 6'0-6'1 Tyrone Power who both had a footwear advantage over him. And Lee Marvin was definitely not under 6'1. A flat 6'1 is as low as he would've been with his 6'1.5" claim being accurate.

Rob's listing for Wayne is accurate even though it wouldn't surprise me if he was a full 6'4". Even when in flats,socks, or bare feet the man was just massive back in his day.
James said on 7/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was just under 6'1". Wayne was 6'3".
Arch Stanton said on 5/Apr/16
Yes, you only have to watch Donovan's Reef with Wayne in boat shoes to see he was near a genuine 6'4. You could see his feet in them and definitely no lifts, The man was between 2 and 3 inches taller than than 6'1.5 Lee Marvin
Tom said on 2/Apr/16
Probably because so many people who worked with him said he wore lifts.
LoganNoll1996 said on 1/Apr/16
My bad, I never watched Donovan's Reef yet(only the beginning). Elizabeth Allen is listed on these sites as 5'9". GIven how she worked as a fashion model, it's possible that is not her actual height. She could've been as low as 5'8" - 5'8.5" for all we know. And Wayne appeared to be at least a head taller than her in that scene I posted which would put him as a 6'3ish - 6'4" guy barefoot.

Don't know why people still persist that he wore lifts.
Bruno said on 1/Apr/16
She is listed as 5'9'' on a well known movie site. Lifts me a**e Tom.
Gonzalo said on 31/Mar/16
That´s not Ursulla Andress, that´s Elizabeth Allen in Donovan´s reef. Wayne appeared barefoot in several movies and he didn´t look much shorter than with shoes on. I am thinking of The quiet man, The searchers or The shootist. In all those movies he looked very big barefoot
James said on 31/Mar/16
Isn't that from the awful film Donovan's Reef?
LoganNoll1996 said on 28/Mar/16
John Wayne barefoot with 5'5" Ursula Andress though there isn't a shot of them both standing straight but Wayne looks like he could be a little over a head taller. Click Here

Notice how he's doing his signature walk despite not wearing any form of footwear.
Tom said on 27/Mar/16
Stewart was probably wearing ordinary shoes whereas Wayne was wearing lifts.
Height ain't nothin' said on 25/Mar/16
I met The Duke in 1977 in L.A. I am 6'5.75" . Remember he was 70 and I 21. he was a legit 6'4". I also met Jimmy Stewart and I can say Mr. Stewart was shorter then The Duke. In my opinion 1.5"
LoganNoll1996 said on 20/Mar/16
Can't tell whether or not Wayne is closer to the camera than Cooper but he is leaning a bit whereas Cooper is standing straight with his arms crossed. Have no clue who the little guy is though.

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Sam said on 20/Mar/16
Rampage, take into consideration Widmark's comment, he was actually surprisingly kind towards Rock Hudson and even at the point where he was producing and directing films he was seemingly ok with appearing with other guys 6'3" or over.
Tom said on 17/Mar/16
That's probably why he wore lifts.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 16/Mar/16
I reckon Wayne resented guys who were taller than him because he was so used to being the biggest guy around and didn't like to be out-sized physically. Clint Walker or Rock Hudson would piss him off. Real masculine thing...
James B said on 15/Mar/16
I thought he looked 6'4.5 in some of his westerns.
AlexMahone said on 11/Mar/16
Wayne was about 193cm.
Tom said on 7/Mar/16
In Munn's book - where he quotes many people, most of whom were dead - he quoted Wayne as asking, "Do I seem short to you?". He didn't say that Wayne said how tall he was.
Tom said on 7/Mar/16
Wayne was 6'3".
LoganNoll1996 said on 6/Mar/16
Just curious, Tom, how tall do you think Wayne was?
PLB said on 6/Mar/16
The idea that he wore 4 inch lifts had always seemed improbable to me. I was always an honest 6'4" barefoot but to correct a problem with my foot I once wore some three inch lifts. Jesus. What pain. My back was killing me and I stumbled around like I was drunk. I don't know how the ladies manage. OTOH I liked being taller.

But maybe Wayne did wear big lifts. Herbert Marshall lost a leg and appeared in many movies thereafter looking completely normal. But if he did wear such big lifts there would have had to have been a big conspiracy involving everyone on the set. I think a normal man can get away with funny shoes that add as much as two inches. But I find four inches unlikely. That's almost a stilt.

BTW I watched 'The Alamo' for the first time the other night. Wayne was no director.
Rory said on 5/Mar/16
Rob, with all the conspiracies about Wayne and lifts what do you think the chances are that he was more like 6'2 and wore lifts to look about 6'4, or do you rule them out completely and think he was genuinely around 6'4 ?
Editor Rob: there's no smoke without fire.

In Wayne's case though, maybe there is a kind of myth and an element of Chinese Whispers to it. A joke that grew legs...
Tom said on 2/Mar/16
Was anything Munn wrote true?
LoganNoll1996 said on 23/Feb/16
Rob, may I suggest reading "John Wayne: The Man Behind the Myth" by Michael Munn? There's an interview in there in which Wayne talks about the lifts rumors.
LoganNoll1996 said on 23/Feb/16
Tyrone Power could've lost height but I see him as still being a 6 footer by then. So 6'0" - 6'0.5" which would put him at 6'1" - 6'1.5" when accounting for footwear advantage and Wayne is still taller.

There's also a pic of Wayne with Ward Bond from that film in which Wayne is visibly taller despite having a noticeable footwear disadvantage and Bond himself was a 6'1" - 6'2" guy.
movieguy said on 23/Feb/16
I don't think he was a full 6'4'' but doubt if he was much less than this. Yeah I can believe he wore lifts as he was same height as 6'5'' Jim Hutton in films they made despite being considerably older. Looked very different as a young man from the more well known middle aged superstar. Much lighter in build and more typically a Hollywood good looking leading man. I actually think he was a brilliant actor although to the younger generation his films probably don't have widespread appeal which I suppose is understandable.
Ice said on 21/Feb/16
Im 6'2.5'' in the morning and waer shoe lifts , bc I just feel too short around guys my age
Patricia 02/20/16 said on 20/Feb/16
So many comments about John Wayne 's height. Also, someone said he had small feet. Between small feet & lifts,
could those two things together, have been the reason, John Wayne's walk was , lets say, a little different.
Tom said on 15/Feb/16
Many celebrities who were 6'1" said they were 6'2".

Tyrone Power was about sixty in "The Big Trail" so he probably wasn't at his peak height.
LoganNoll1996 said on 8/Feb/16

Just about all the sites on here list Keith as 6'2".
Tom said on 5/Feb/16
Ian Keith was 6'1".
LoganNoll1996 said on 31/Jan/16
Go watch "The Big Trail", John Wayne's first film as a lead role. Wayne obviously is not wearing lifts in that film if you look at his footwear and he was a little taller than Ian Keith who was regularly described as 6'2". He was also taller than Tyrone Power, Sr. who was wearing boots - and Tyrone Power, Sr. is described on most sites as being 6'1". The lowest I would argue for a young John Wayne is 6'3.5" but no lower.
Tom said on 16/Jan/16
Also don't forget Wayne had lung cancer when "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" was filmed, and therefore may not have appeared at his peak height without help.
Tom said on 16/Jan/16
Stewart did not wear lifts, but Lee Marvin was only six foot.

Since Wayne wore a wig in every film from 1948 onwards, why do you think he wouldn't have worn lifts as well? He wouldn't allow Jack Elam to be cast in "The Train Robbers" because Elam stole "Rio Lobo" from him, and he refused to work with Robert Mitchum after the younger actor stole "El Dorado" from him.
marcus said on 14/Jan/16
Disregard last. I was wrong Van Cleef was in the movie as well.
marcus said on 14/Jan/16
It was Lee Marvin, not Lee Van Cleef.
Bruno said on 14/Jan/16
Tom said on 13/Jan/16
Wayne was probably wearing lifts in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". He was playing a character 30 years younger than his real age. They had to cut the film because Wayne couldn't disarm Van Cleef's lightning fast draw.

And was Stewart and Marvin wearing lifts as well, because Wayne and Stewart looked pretty close in height and Marvin about 1.5-2'' lower. Please refrain from talking rot.
184.3cm (Night) said on 14/Jan/16
Wayne at 188cm? Then you need to downgrade alot of other big names im afraid. I do think he looked 6'3 at times in some of his older movies when he had flat footwear but he never looked as short as 6'2.
Tom said on 13/Jan/16
Wayne was probably wearing lifts in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". He was playing a character 30 years younger than his real age. They had to cut the film because Wayne couldn't disarm Van Cleef's lightning fast draw.
Gonzalo said on 13/Jan/16
LoganNoll1996 said on 4/Jan/16

I've noticed people on here claiming him to have been 6'2" - even using a Mexican visa as "proof". In my opinion he was taller than 6'2" guys like Lee Van Cleef in his prime. He just doesn't look that short

In Liberty Balance Wayne had two inches on Lee Van Cleef. He was taller and much bigger tan him
marcus said on 10/Jan/16
High School physical said 6' 4''
Tom said on 10/Jan/16
Mitchum said Wayne wasn't 6'4".
Arch Stanton said on 9/Jan/16
Basically we can't prove he wore lifts or didn't wear them. But I think too many people talked about it to dismiss entirely. The only 6 ft and wore 4 inch lifts is certainly utter nonsense though. But until we actually have concrete proof, like an old studio photo of his boots on set with inserts poking out the top or whatever then it's pure speculation. All I know is that in a lot of his films his boots did look really bulky and difficult to walk in, and at times he could pull off looking taller than this listing. But you could say the same thing about any actor walking in those big style of boots.Just look at Burt Reynolds, at times he could look near 6 ft 1 in them!
Arch Stanton said on 9/Jan/16
There's certainly no point in debating that he was just 6 ft. In The Shootist I think it was we see him barefoot and clearly he looked a decent 6'3" er even at that age. He was genuinely a big man, and had the frame of a 6'4 man, regardless of footwear. You can't dismiss all the claims as false rumours though, even Mitchum admitted Wayne was 6 ft 4 and wore lifts. In a lot of his films his footwear does look really bulky and difficult to walk around in. There's no proof I've seen of him wearing lifts, but it isn't impossible that he had a booster in his boots in some films to pull off looking even more imposing. That was part of the package he was selling to the public, and his "man mountain" larger than life American image was crucial to his career. I would doubt he ever wore "4 inch lifts" though. As Sam said previously in some films he could really look more massive than others, in certain scenes in fact he could look like a man closer to 6 ft 6. It isn't impossible that he had something in in those films to pull off looking even bigger. But I think it's very clear from watching him in so many films he was genuinely a very tall man even without them.
Tom said on 8/Jan/16
George Kennedy said Wayne and Dean Martin both wore lifts in "Rio Bravo" and "The Sons of Katie Elder".
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 5/Jan/16
There are rumours that the man was barely over 6ft and wore massive lifts.

Rob, is there any point debating that or is it a complete myth?
Editor Rob: as many know, the more often a lie is repeated, the greater the chance it becomes accepted as the truth.

I think if you watch his movies and see the types of boots men wore, were his much different or could somehow conceal 3 inches worth of lifts?
Arch Stanton said on 4/Jan/16
I've seen some of his rarer mid 30s films of late and he looked close to 6'4 in all of them. Too tall to be under 6'3". The only film I saw of his where he looked 6'2.5 was The Big Trail wearing flat mocassins. In all others his body looks too big to have only been 6'2 range.
Jake: 1.84 m- 1.85 m said on 3/Jan/16
He did look huge in 'Rio Bravo'.
Unsub 5'10" said on 2/Jan/16
I never believed he was close to 6'4, I think he was more like a strong 6'2 or perhaps 6' 2.5 .
jessman said on 1/Jan/16
Pete, for me 188cm is very believable for Wayne. I just do not see him as 192cm. There seems to be general acceptance of hollywood 2 inch height inflation, but seemingly not when it comes to Wayne.
Pete said on 31/Dec/15
Came across this photo (I believe) Mexican visa dated 1948 of John Wayne. Interesting - his height here is listed as 188cm. Click Here
Tom said on 6/Dec/15
In 1955 Wayne was 6'3" and Mazurki was 6'4".
Sam said on 3/Dec/15
"Close to 6'5"" for Mazurki according to a newspaper article and Rob's listing, i.e. 6'4.75", consistent with his being roughly an inch over Wayne who wrote for himself 6'3.75". I was wondering if his in character claim of "six four and a half" in The Quiet Man might have reflected a morning measurement Wayne had off-screen.
Tom said on 1/Dec/15
Even Mazurki said he wasn't 6'5".
Tom said on 30/Nov/15
I've read that Wayne was 6'3.5" at his peak, and 6'3" by his fifties.
Gonzalo said on 30/Nov/15
Mike Mazurki looked definitely 6`5. Watch The unconquered
Tom said on 26/Nov/15
Mike Mazurki was 6'4".
Tom said on 25/Nov/15
Mike Mazurki wasn't really 6'5".
Sam said on 20/Nov/15
IMO only a small portion of lift-wearers in earlier Hollywood were caught in photos in them, some actors are more obviously wearing lifts in some roles than Wayne generally was.
Tom said on 19/Nov/15
Good lifts should be invisible from the outside.
Bruno said on 18/Nov/15
But why didn't he wear lifts in The Undefeated, when acting with Rock, he looked about an inch lower or so than Rock and if he was worried about his height he defo would have worn them then. If he had 2'' lifts in his boots with Rock then he should appear taller which is not the case.

Check out 1970 Swing out sweet land at about 6 minutes forward you can clearly see his shoes and no lifts and see him stand close to Dan Blocker they are pretty close in height. Why didn't he wear lifts then , why didn't he wear them in Brannigan????
Gonzalo said on 18/Nov/15
Ferrer still looked tall in the 80`s, when he appeared in Falcon Crest. Close to 1`90.

The lifts rumour about Wayne is widely spread. It is true that we have not seen any real evidences so far (as we have with other people). But it is also true that there are films of Wayne in which he looks tall (for instance, In harm´s way or The longest day) and others in which he looks huge (The shootist, Rio Lobo). Probably Wayne started wearing lifts in the 60`s when he began to lose height and he wanted to be as tall as he was in his prime. I think we will never know.

Misteries of height. That´s why this site exists
Bruno said on 17/Nov/15
Plenty of actors pictured wearing lifts, Bogie, Martin, Glenn Ford, if Wayne wore lifts there defo would be pictures of it either on or off set.
Pete said on 17/Nov/15
By 1975 both Ferrer and Wayne had probably each lost about an inch in height (older). I believe most people lose 1/4" of height per decade after turning 40. So, Ferrer was probably closer to 6'2", and Wayne 6'2.5" or 6'3". Makes sense.
Bruno said on 16/Nov/15
Get them pics Rob, haven't seen any!!!
Editor Rob: there are definitely a few actors who talked about it but I doubt anybody took photos of them...

It may have been one of those rumours that others fuelled with fire.
Bruno said on 15/Nov/15
It's strange with all the lifts talk, there is no picture of him wearing any. In 1975 Brannigan wearing regular shoes he appears nearly 1'' taller than 6'3'' Mel Ferrer. In 1976 The Shootist Wayne looks huge compared to Ron Howard. Wayne barefoot and Ron with boots. I have said it a lot Wayne lost very little height with age.
Editor Rob: Here's another quote from actor Russell McCubbin: "[Wayne] wore lifts in his shoes and he wore a hairpiece. he was a good fella...I got along with him fine."
Sam said on 13/Nov/15
I go back and forth on whether Wayne was wearing lifts in movies, I feel like he did as well...I feel like some films like The Big Trail or Angel and the Badman he's clearly not wearing any and there's too many films where he looks exactly like a man with his listing, wearing average cowboy boots, should look with his often well known co-stars. But then there's some films like El Dorado where he seems more enormously tall than he should at 6'3.75" & it keeps me guessing.
Larry said on 9/Nov/15
Carter and Clinton never said Wayne was their favourite actor.
Mike Horn said on 7/Nov/15
I love it when these idiots say John Wayne was not at least 6 3 or better when anyone who met him said he was huge with a personality to match. People want to tear down a man if he has strong beliefs and is still adored by most people. Some people are just plain cynical asses. I won't even get into politics but almost every president including Carter and Clinton said he was their favorite actor and had great respect for him. He is getting even more popular in recent years to the dismay of aforementioned idiots. By the way could a short man have had huge paws like he did? Or maybe those were props
Gonzalo said on 4/Nov/15
Editor Rob, seems that you have recovered old comments. Thank you!! Good to see my old Pals Patrick an Mike C posting. It´s been a while since I first posted in this site. I´m getting old. And celebheights too!!
[Editor Rob: even Big G returned from the dead...

in web terms, 11 years is quite old for a site...but hopefully it will continue.]
Larry said on 31/Oct/15
It depends if Wayne was wearing built up shoes.
LoganNoll1996 said on 29/Oct/15
If Rock Hudson did have 4 cm on Wayne then wouldn't that have made Wayne 6'3.5 in his later films? So that would mean he only lost a quarter of an inch at that point.
Gonzalo said on 27/Oct/15
John Wayne and Gary Cooper

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Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 25/Oct/15
Looked 189-190cm in his last movie.
Larry said on 15/Oct/15
I think that was just a line in the script.
Sam said on 14/Oct/15
I wonder if ever claimed 6'4.5" off screen as his character did in The Quiet Man.
Larry said on 24/Sep/15
Dean Martin may have been less than 5'9", he always wore huge lifts.

Oliver Hardy was only 5'11" by 1949 because he had severe obesity and back problems.
Steve said on 21/Sep/15
Larry, I think Dean was closer to 5'10" while Oliver Hardy was most definitely taller than 5'11".
Bruno said on 21/Sep/15
Brannigan was enjoyable, not meant to be the same as Dirty Harry, good car chase driving the Ford Capri and the pub brawl was fun. I thought he worked well with Sir Dickie.
Larry said on 19/Sep/15
Arch, Dean Martin was 5'9". Oliver Hardy may have been 5'11" by the time of "The Fighting Kentuckian" due to his obesity and health problems.

I don't think Wayne would be such a controversial figure were it not for his support for an unwinnable war in Vietnam.
Larry said on 18/Sep/15
John Wayne was closer to 6'3" by the mid-1950s.

He was too old and ill to play a policeman in "McQ" and "Brannigan", starring in those two films was a mistake.
Bruno said on 15/Sep/15
Arch Stanton said on 12/Sep/15
Brannigan was enjoyable was McQ I didn't enjoy much.

I enjoyed both, the car chase in around Seattle and the final chase on the beach was good. That car he drove was a beauty. Unfortunately it got crushed.
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The music and that big mother weapon.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 13/Sep/15
Rob, is it possible that he was around 6ft3 flat by the time of his death?
[Editor Rob: might have been under...but nevertheless, they still misjudged his coffin and had to actually order one longer than planned...getting buried in lifts and a Stetson will certainly cause such problems ;)]
Arch Stanton said on 12/Sep/15
Brannigan was enjoyable was McQ I didn't enjoy much.
Arch Stanton said on 12/Sep/15
Also Bruno, if you watch War and Peace you could argue a stronger 6'3" for Ferrer with Henry Fonda, he could make Fonda look 6'0.5 in some scenes.
Arch Stanton said on 12/Sep/15
@ Steve, Bruno, Sam. I agree that the idea of him wearing lifts does seem ridiculous, especially as there's barefoot evidence in one of his later films that he was still close to 6'4. Rock Hudson had about 4cm on Wayne, are we to really believe he was only high 6'3" in lifts? But a number of people did claim it. Was it their idea of jest, not sure? But I agree fully with what you say about him being a big framed man and him looking at least 6'4" in many films. He made Oliver Hardy look barely 5 ft 11 and Dean Martin look barely 5 ft 9.
Steve said on 11/Sep/15
Who is Knowitall?

LamarrZG, do you really believe everything some actor or entertainer says? If so, you must be terribly naive. Or have an anti-Wayne agenda.

Check out this photo of Wayne with Gary Cooper. Click Here

If you think Wayne is wearing lifts then you must be blind.
LamarrG said on 7/Sep/15
Sorry to disappoint you Knowitall,John Wayne wore lifts in his shoes,that was verified by people who worked with him,Robert Mitchum,Bobby Darin,Rock Hudson all new he wore them,and they couldn't figure out why...but i know why!
Sixseven said on 13/Aug/15
Well said VC
cobra said on 9/Aug/15
This might not be the most accurate picture ever but when you consider who else is there with an aged Wayne it should without a doubt confirm he was in the 6-3 to 6-4 range: Click Here
Steve said on 8/Aug/15
The lifts claim makes me laugh. Wayne was a truly big man. Big boned. He looked massive in Bannigan. And no lifts. That's clear to see if you watch the movie. Silly movie, but lots of fun all the same.
Bruno said on 6/Aug/15
The lifts stuff is defo BS. The Undefeated was made later with 6'5" Rock. If he was that worried about his height he would have worn them in that movie. However he appears circa 1" lower than Rock.

I posted a link of Wayne with 6'3" Mel Ferrer in Brannigan, no lifts in his shoes watch the movie and stands slightly taller maybe 0.75".
Sam said on 4/Aug/15
I think he looks really massive in El Dorado as well. I don't know where you fall on whether Wayne wore lifts, Arch, but he looked taller than his near 6'4" in these later films.
177cmGuy said on 26/Jul/15
The lowest I would go would go for him is 6'3.50. It would have been interesting to see how he would fare against somebody like Randy orton who is estimated as legit 6'4.
Arch Stanton said on 20/Jul/15
Really looked massive in The Sons of Katie Elder, the biggest in fact I've seen him look but might be the narrow screen format I watched it on. He looked bigger than 6'4 in it and 6'5-6'6.
Jesse Stone said on 18/Jul/15
Well strange is: Lots of people claimed he was wearing lifts, but nevertheless never seemed any taller than a legit 6'4 ( Not even with cowboy-heels and lifts in his movies).
VC said on 16/Jul/15
John Wayne is 6'4" with boots and slightly over 6' without boots.
Sam said on 15/Jul/15
Yeah, I think both Arch and I have been trying to get Cooper uplisted a tad to 6'3.25". Oddly enough Cooper looked very even with Jimmy Stewart as well but Stewart could seem a smidge shorter on screen than Wayne. Hard to see more than a half inch between Cooper and Wayne at any rate.
Arch Stanton said on 30/Jun/15
@Gonzalo I think Robert Stack looked a decent 6 ft guy in his prime, but Rob aint buyin it, but at leats tweaked to 182, Stack was at 180 or 81 at one point!
Gonzalo said on 29/Jun/15
Yes, Bruno, I agree Cooper looks over 6`3 in many movies and pics
Bruno said on 25/Jun/15
Great find Gonzalo, Wayne and Coop look the same height in this pic, although Coop is closer to the camera. I reckon they were very similar in height maybe only a few mm in it. Coop was defo over 6'3'' peak, what do you think Gonzalo?
Gonzalo said on 23/Jun/15
Wayne and Cooper the same day. Never 100% reliable pictures. This one seems a bit more accurate than the one mrbobh5344 posted. But, as Editor Rob has said many times, pics of people walking can be tricky

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Steve said on 22/Jun/15
Gary Cooper was 6'4". He downplayed his height even claiming he was only 6'2 & 1/2".

Copper towered over many true 6' actors.
Gonzalo said on 22/Jun/15
John Wayne and Robert Stack. Stack is listed at 1,82 in this site.
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Gonzalo said on 22/Jun/15
John Wayne and Anthony Perkins
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mrbobh5344 said on 21/Jun/15
Have seen a picture of Wayne and Gary Cooper walking side by side with sandles and boat shoes showing. Picture appears mid 50's.... when both men are 50ish. They look identical height. Exactly the same.
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Sam said on 17/Jun/15
Gonzalo, there's a good chance people might not know you're joking...even Wayne at just six foot is pretty ridiculous!
patrick said on 3/Sep/12
But that means nothing...looking 6'2 young and 4 aged...Antway, i still insist on saying that leads nowhere to compare what is not comparable. I agree with bruno anyway and i just consider the Duke looking mostly huge and very tall. Even beside James Arness who used to make anyine small even 6'4.5 Robert Easton or 6'2.5 Dennis Weaver.
bruno said on 2/Sep/12
And what height did he look barefoot in The Shootist. He was 68 and Ron Howard is 5'10'' with shoes on. I'd say 6'4".
Shaun said on 31/Aug/12
No I don't know what you mean. The photos are not supposed to be ideal to gauge height, far from it. I'm basically saying that in terms of height John Wayne in the Big Trail and somebody like Jeff Goldblum its impossible to figure how they could be the same height. Wayne looks nowhere near as tall in that film. You don't have to get all defensive Patrick, I'm not disputing Wayne was actually 6'4", he looked it in most of his films but he oddly looked 6'2" tops in his early movies, that's what I'm saying.
patrick said on 30/Aug/12
Sorry that serious, i mean those pictures? One showing young Duke alone and another, completely differently shot, with digital camera of aging Goldblum. Sometime i really 'wonder'...know what i mean?
Shaun said on 27/Aug/12
OK, the camera is lower and in favour of making Goldblum look taller but what I'm saying is that it is very difficult to watch the Big Trail and buy 6'4" for Wayne.
Shaun said on 26/Aug/12
John Wayne in the Big Trail:

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Jeff Goldblum:

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See what I mean....
Shaun said on 26/Aug/12
patrick says on 25/Aug/12
In the big trail...he is the only one wearing flat indian mocassins, as if he were bare foot. All the others wear typical western shoes or cow boy boots.

Exactly. And proportionally walking through the doorway next to a woman he looked 6'2" max and looked nowhere near 6'4" in the Big Trail. I've seen the film lot of times and everytime I watch it I try to figure how Wayne could have been as big as 6'4" in it..
Mark said on 25/Aug/12
...I'm not interested in getting into debates, but with a bit of spare time I read some posts here and will add my 3 cents. Regarding Wayn's hands; I've read at least two articles, over my life (I have no clue when or where) that say people who shook John Wayne's hand were amazed at how much of a giant mitt his hands were. I've never seen his handprint, so I can't say what's true, only what I know I read. As for height, He certainly was over 6'2, I have no doubts about that...just by the way he looked and sized up to others. 6'3 or 6'4. It's probably like what I think Eastwood's height was. 6'4 "right" out of bed, 6'3 by day's end seems right, for both men. And, Wane never lost good posture. As for Wayne's acting, I think he was spot on. I often chuckle at criticisms of certain actor's acting. Pretend the average person you run into at Walmart is an actor, acting. Would any of us say they were doing good acting? No. We'd say they say their lines with no emotion and they aren't exciting. My point being, how was Wayne "supposed" to act? I believe him when he's acting. I believe he's that guy. That's good acting. Actually, great comedy is the best acting. I could care less about what the Academy thinks is good acting (always drama. Who "Can't" moan and groan and cry). I digress. My apologies. Wayne, 6'3 to 6'4, with mitts for my opinion.
patrick said on 25/Aug/12
In the big trail...he is the only one wearing flat indian mocassins, as if he were bare foot. All the others wear typical western shoes or cow boy boots. As for the Mann's Chinese Theatre prints...i also saw them many times...It is easy to guess he just did not 'press' a very hard concrete whichis corroborated by then accounts. In fact, considering those prints - which would tend to make us think John Wayne was actually Mickey Rooney - rather than one's own eyes in, for example, just...warching any of his movies, comes close to being stupid or naively blind or both.
Henrik said on 23/Aug/12

Rock Hudson's height was actually lowered on the bill at times. He was listed as 6'3.5" when he came to Hollywood.
idosew said on 22/Aug/12
Are the guesses including the high heeled boots he wore? I have seen the boot prints and hand print in LA. I am 5'7" and mine are bigger. The tiny hand prints shocked me.
Shaun said on 22/Aug/12
He looked 6'2" in The Big Trail but to be fair in most of his movies he looked as big as 6'4". The barefoot seen with that 5'9.5" guy in shoes convinced me that he was legitimately near 6'4". Surprised they didn't inflate his height though as "being big" in that era was desirable. Like I'm surprised they didn't say 6'6" for him, 6'7" for Hudson, 6'8" for Clint Walker and 6'9" for James Arness!
Henrik said on 20/Aug/12
Well, it seems to me that I tripped on some toes. Did I comment on your whole long post? No. I replied to your saying that people wasted time discussing John Wayne's height. Sure, it is wasting time, but also the whole purpose of this page.
JR said on 19/Aug/12
I think he was between 6'3.25 and 6'4 at his peak. Great actor one of my Idols.
John Henrys Hammer said on 17/Aug/12

Thank you for pointing out that this site is for discussing height.

We would all be lost without your wisdom.

Read my comments again, and try harder to understand the point I was making.

Clearly, you missed it the first time you read it.
patrick said on 17/Aug/12
Stone as well as previously JHH, you both wrote 'gold'...I just cannot do anything but agree with you...i could have written those words. Some people can even be 6' 5 or 5'4 and nobody cares because they don't 'have it'. James Cagney, a far more - to me - interesting, weak word, man than the other James, Dean, was probably 5'5 or 5'6 tops...but what a giant! His height was a part of his Mickey Mouse's one - joke but then...The Duke was not only tall, many are tall and who remarks them, but a giant in humanity as Cagney, Bogart, Tracy and even in his own way, Mickey...Rooney. The Duke was huge and the great Rock Hudson could not match him though in this feature film, taller. He was something no one has been before or after him...James Arness, a great man too was possibly two inches taller but finally smaller. I am just sure him or the wonderful Clint Walker would have agreed. I miss the ones Stone mentioned...all of them. I was born in 1953, in France and i all along my life, considered them as landmarks as human beings i wanted to take as examples in my own life as well as actors larger than life. John Wayne's movies are first his own ones, even the less interesting as jet pilot, get benefit of his incredible presence that makes it watchable. There was only one John Wayne and this very world cannot produce another, at least 'known'. Watch movies of the 30ies, 40ies and 50ies...and tell me, comparing to what is on screen now, there is nothing wrong in our values, tastes today, that it is 'better', more intelligent, more profound...actors to day are short or not tall but should they be tall, but a bunch of TV actors, they would be dwarfed by any of the Stone's list.e comments. Height matters only a part of the man's personality. Some can
Stone said on 16/Aug/12
I don't think the Duke cared how tall he was or how much taller others were. He was JOHN WAYNE. He was the man. John Wayne Clint Eastwood and my Dad, they don't make them like that anymore. The attitude, telling people the way it is and never tippy toed around like alot of these fakes do just to be politically correct. James Arness was a great man also. I miss those guys, Clint is still here and still makes a damn good movie. Getting back to the height of actors, I don't think it really matters how tall or big they are, if they make a good movie, and live their life the right way and never deliver any BS, then I'm all for them. Joe Pesci is another great person. He maybe only 5 foot tall but he's a bad dude and can handle anyone.
I miss John Wayne, I love watching his movies it reminds me of those innocent days. Those days are long gone and won't ever come back. So who really cares how tall anyone is, if they live a good life and don't give any BS, who cares.
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Henrik said on 13/Aug/12
patrick, I wrote that the picture I provided was from one of his movies - The Searchers. It might just be the picture that's tricking me. I'm not saying that's an impossibility.

@John Henrys Hammer

This site is about discussing height. And most of us are not denying that Wayne was about 6'4", I think.
John Henrys Hammer said on 12/Aug/12
I find this arguing about the Big Man's height bemusing. Aye, I've always been interested in height (and cursed my body for years for reaching only 6' 1" and not the 6' 2" I expected to be!) but folk are wasting time squabbling over JW's height and size. Frankly, some of the comments are cringeworthy, such as, 'He had small hands!' or 'He was only 5 foot something and they made the sets smaller than normal scale to make him look bigger!". Dear oh dear. John Wayne at his peak was six foot four. This is documentated in his college years. He was clearly a big, big man - even if he lost an inch or so as he went into his sixties. His hands were huge. His feet were average. I mean, what the heck are you lot arguing about?? This is not Frank Sinatra we're arguing about, a little guy who always wore lifts to appear taller. This is John Wayne! He was huge! And yes, even though he was huge, some other actors were even bigger, or at least taller. Rock Hudso is clearly taller (and a whole lot slimmer (sorry Duke)) in The Undefeated. Hudson I believe was six foot five, so even at Dukes peak, Hudson was taller. James Arness was a ridiculous height, six foot six or seven. I don't understand why some folk use some other actors who were taller than Duke as a some sort of weapon against him. A lot of folk are taller than six foot four. The point is, Duke was six foot four at his peak and had an excellent proportion of body, reasonably long legged and massiceve in the torso (look at him next to Dean Martin or Glen Campbell, he towers over them and they, whilst not being greatlt tall, were certainly not short. A good indicator is the scene in Donovans Reef when Duke and Lee Marvin are standing side by side after fighting in the water. Both appear to be wearing flat soled shoes. Wayne is clearly an inch or two taller than Marvin, who was a solid six foot two. Maybe by that time (he must have been around 55 years old) he had lost an inch in height, but he was still huge.
Anyway, point is, debates would make more sense on folk we know aren't as tall they claim or appear.

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