How tall is Shawne Merriman - Page 6

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6ft 2.66in (189.6cm)
Canson said on 2/Jul/18
@Viper: yea with wall that has to be camera. Davis is def taller than Wall
Canson said on 2/Jul/18
@Viper: I can agree on the Edwards pic. There are several occurrences of him looking 6’2”. I’ve seen just as much of that as well of him looking 6’2/6’2.5. That’s odd tho that his combine was 6’4.3. But then again Lavar shows 6’3.3 and draftscout shows him 6’2.2 which is weird. Btw, another one there, Darnerian McCants is listed 6’4” flat (6040) on the combine listing but 6’3” here on Draftscout and the NFL listed him 6’3” when he played
Canson said on 2/Jul/18
@Viper: it depends on camera angle. Lavar looks taller at other points in the video. That’s odd that he’s listed 6’2.2??? Wow!
viper said on 2/Jul/18
6-3 Vernon looking shorter than John Wall. Click Here
Canson said on 1/Jul/18
@Junior and Viper: have to remember Rob has Ben Affleck at 6’2.5 when he really can look 6’1” range. He also had several other celebs overlisted by more than just half inch and they haven’t been adjusted. Merriman may be no different. Now to be fair Merriman may not have stood at his tallest when Viper met him but to be fair as well, I’m also from the Washington DC area and have a friend who has met Merriman. I asked him how tall and was he as tall as listed and he said no way. When I mentioned What Viper said about 6’2” he said he looked 6’2” ish or about 6’2”. Now coincidentally, the MD game Viper met Merriman at, I believe I was there too. I saw Merriman as well but he was at a distance so I assumed he was prob his listed height but because I wasn’t close enough.
viper said on 1/Jul/18
6-2 Geno Smith has been guessed at 6-4 on Twitter.

Also, Merriman did not deny the 6-2 statement from Rudy Gay in his tweet back to him.
viper said on 1/Jul/18
0 percent chance Merriman is 6-4. His posture looked fine to me when I saw him at 6-1.5-6-2. Not 6-3 either
viper said on 1/Jul/18
What's really interesting is that couchscout has Lavar at 6-2.2 Click Here

6-2 Gilbert Arenas looks a hair taller than Lavar at the 17 second mark Click Here
viper said on 30/Jun/18
Canson how tall does he look to you next to 6-1.5 Donnie Edwards Click Here

I see no taller than 6-2
Canson said on 30/Jun/18
@Viper: Lavar looks every bit of 6’3” in games and from a couple people I know that have met him. And I agree with your comment you made because there are quite a few pics where Merriman doesn’t look anything remotely close that I have posted alone. He looks 6’2” range with Beast Mode as well
Canson said on 30/Jun/18
@Viper: Lavar looks every bit of 6’3” in games and from a couple people I know that have met him.
viper said on 29/Jun/18
Just because Rob doesn't have him as that doesn't mean so.

Junior, I've seen him in person and he's nowhere close to 6-3 range. He looked 6-1.5-6-2 honestly.

He could be as high as 6-2.5 but that's it.
Canson said on 29/Jun/18
@Junior: rob is great but doesn’t mean he’s perfect. He had Pamela Anderson Lee an inch higher until he met her then dropped her. To be fair he hasn’t met Merriman so if he did he would be able to make a better assessment. And who knows maybe he really is 6’4” but maybe he really is only 6’2” range. Gotta remember he’s never met Affleck either and he’s likely overlisted
Canson said on 29/Jun/18
@Andrea: to be fair there is no proof that the person you met on Twitter actually knows how tall Merriman is, either. So just because the guy has pics with him (and you also threw a range out there to him that you thought he was as Viper and I both saw). Therefore, just because there is a picture with Merriman, doesn’t make it any more credible.
viper said on 29/Jun/18
So many people think Barkley is taller than his 6-4 5/8-6-4.75 measurements. He can look taller

And alas, Shawne Merriman looks 6-2 next to Barkley
viper said on 29/Jun/18
I'm not so sure Lavar is 6-3. He looks the same height as 6-2 Gilbert Arenas playing basketball on YouTube.
viper said on 29/Jun/18
Sorry Andrea, he doesn't look taller than every single athlete in that range. In fact he has looked shorter with the examples I've provided.

And again, I'm not going to misjudge a 6-4 guy at 6-1.5-6-2.

And also, a guy who played a whole basketball game with him and said 6-2
Canson said on 29/Jun/18
Vince Young was also measured in the 6’4 range at 6046 (morning height) as was Vincent Jackson. Merriman is nowhere near as tall as either of them

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Merriman with Brees (5’11 7/8) at the Aloha Bowl

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Canson said on 28/Jun/18
@Viper: true there is no 6’3” measurement. But there was “allegedly” a 6’4 3/8. Oddly enough although he didn’t measure it, 6’3” is how he can look at times. But can look 6’2 or 6’4 too
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 28/Jun/18
If Shawne Merriman is only 6'2-6'3 like some people posted then why do Rob listed him 6'4. think. 6'3 1/2 will be his low not under.
Andrea said on 28/Jun/18
I'm going to rule out 6'2.5, based on ALL the pics I have posted with other MEASURED athletes, not only based on Tebow's pic, Christian. As I said, there's no way a 6'2-6'2.5 guy can look taller than every single athlete who was measured in that range, and even more so, there's no way a 6'2-6'2.5 guy can look taller than every single athlete who was measured around an inch taller than that. And, unlike Boris, it is true that Shawne's height can really look all over the place at times, but generally he can look anywhere between 6'3 and 6'4.
And since you give so much importance to random people "meeting" celebrities and keep considering it evidence, I suggest you to take a look at my older comments because I did post 2 people who met him and both of them guessed him near 6'4. And in that case, it's certainly much stronger evidence, considering that they both had a picture with him (so they met him for a fact). To me it is not evidence at all, but for a guy like you who seems to base everything on that, it should be indeed, although I'm sure you will hypocritically disregard that for the simple fact that it doesn't fit your narrative...
Canson said on 28/Jun/18
Merriman with Drew Brees who measured a hair under 6’0” at the Aloha Bowl (5’11 7/8)

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Canson said on 28/Jun/18
@Christian: another variable is the floor. In the pics that have been posted where people assume he’s 6’4 or more this has to be taken into consideration. Below he is with 6’3” Lavar Arrington. No way that Arrington would make him look that small unless he’s standing on something similar to Merriman with Tebow shouldn’t look that tall. Even if he were nearer 6’4. According to those who have met Lavar in the area when he played here, he’s legit 6’3 in person

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Canson said on 28/Jun/18
@Viper: in the pic with Spiller, he’s not even standing straight. You’re right that’s his max if he were to stand straight. Spiller doesn’t have 4” deficit with current stances tho
Canson said on 27/Jun/18
@Christian: even discounting my buddy who met him and Viper, I can see him next to Shawn Kemp and how he stacked up with LT vs how Vernon Davis stacks up with him and tell Merriman isn’t 6’4”. Also you bring up a good point. If Merriman is 3” taller than Tebow, and Tebow measures 6’2.75, then Merriman should’ve been close to 6’6 in the AM like 6’5.5 minimum when a 6’8 range Shawn Kemp had him by much more than 3” it was close to 6” assuming Kemp is even the 6’8.5 and not less. Even if he is Merriman is 6’3” max next to him. Not to mention a 6’4.3 guy isn’t going to be taller than his Combine measurement nor will he be a weak 6’4 from a morning measurement an hour out of bed. He would be 6’3 7/8 or 6’4” similar to Calhoun who is also taller than Merriman by a good inch to inch and a half.
Canson said on 27/Jun/18
@Viper: that’s odd because Tebow really doesn’t look over 6’2”. He must have poor posture. A 6’2.75 or 7/8 morning height should be 6’2.25 no lower at their lowest. Perhaps even 6’2 3/8. Something has to give here
viper said on 27/Jun/18
He's a measured 6-2. Not 6-3
viper said on 26/Jun/18
6-2 Max with 5-10.2 pro day measured CJ Spiller. Click Here
viper said on 26/Jun/18
Merriman looks the same with Tebow here as 6-2 Justin Hartley Click Here
viper said on 26/Jun/18
He looks 6-1 with 6-2 Armin Van burren.

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Canson said on 26/Jun/18
@Viper: maybe he didn’t stand at his tallest next to you but I can agree he likely is not 6’4” or close. Maybe he is close to 6’3” if he didn’t however
viper said on 26/Jun/18
Tebows was measured at 6-2.6-6-2.7 3 different times.

At the combine, senior bowl, pro day
Canson said on 26/Jun/18
Another video of Titus O’Neil and Merriman

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Canson said on 25/Jun/18
If we Compare Titus O’Neil with LT. LT is 5’10.25 morning height so maybe 5’9 3/4-5’10 at a low. Then compare that with how he looks with Merriman. I agree with Christian 6’4 3/8 is impossible even an hour out of bed. He doesn’t look anything more than 6’2.5 in this pic same with Shawn Kemp, same with Beast Mode

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Canson said on 25/Jun/18
Compare Titus O’Neil with LT. LT is 5’10.25 morning height so maybe 5’9 3/4-5’10 at a low. Then compare that with how he looks with Merriman. I agree with Christian 6’4 3/8 is impossible even an hour out of bed. He doesn’t look anything more than 6’2.5 in this pic same with Shawn Kemp, same with Beast Mode

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viper said on 25/Jun/18
No taller than 6-2 next to 6-1.5 Donnie Edwards. Click Here
viper said on 25/Jun/18
A tad shorter than 6-2 Matt Kemp. Click Here
Canson said on 25/Jun/18
Agreed Christian
viper said on 25/Jun/18
Man, Tebows 6-2.75 is a trillion times more accurate.

Anyway, there is no way I could be off that much seeing a supposed 6-4 guy at 6-1.5-6-2. Rudy Gay playing a whole basketball game with him and seeing him at 6-2
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 25/Jun/18
@Andrea

In the second pic with Shawne and Tebow, it looks about a 3" difference, making Shawne look 6'5" range. If you're gonna rule out the 6'2.4" measurement based on that pic, then by that same logic, you should rule out the supposed 6'4 3/8" measurement as well, since a 6'4 3/8" (especially morning) measured guy shouldn't be looking 6'5". This just goes to show you that at times Shawne can look much taller or shorter and his height is all over the place, similar to Boris. Depending on pics, (including pics with decent camera angles) Shawne can look 6'2", 6'2.5", 6'3", 6'3.5", 6'4" and even 6'5". But the main reason why I rule out the supposed 6'4 3/8" measurement, is because 2 different people met him and said he looked about 6'2" range. And also looking shorter than Boris, the guy whom several people met him and said he looked 6'3" range. No 6'4 3/8" measured guy should be looking shorter than a 6'3" range guy.
viper said on 25/Jun/18
6-2 Geno Smith looks noticably taller than a lot of athletes. He looks much taller physically than Merriman. A couple of people on Twitter thought he was 6-4 in person.
viper said on 25/Jun/18
Merriman looks 6-1 with 6-2 Armin Van Buren. Click Here
viper said on 25/Jun/18
Sorry Andrea, the guy was listed at 6-3 in college his first 2 years. So he's not 6-4. There are more pics that shows he's 6-2 that I've shown over the years.

He's nowhere close to 6-4. He looks 6-2 in person Max.
Andrea said on 24/Jun/18
Actually, his 6'4 3/8 measurement seems a lot more believable than Tebow's 6'2.75 one, considering that the difference between them can certainly look bigger than what their measurements suggest (1 inch and 5/8): Click Here Click Here
I would safely rule out those 6'2 and 6'2.5 figures for two reasons. First of all, there's no way a 6'2-6'2.5 guy can look noticeably taller than so many athletes, who are supposed to have been measured around the same range, and even more so, there's no way a 6'2-6'2.5 guy can look comfortably taller than so many atheletes, who are supposed to have been measured around an inch taller than that. And second of all, both those pages that provided those figures certainly don't seem the most reliable ones. In fact, that NFL.com page that lists Shawne at 6'2 also lists Jon Condo at 6'2 3/8, which just doesn't add up, considering that this is how Shawne looks next to the same Jon: Click Here And couchscout not only lists (ON THE SAME PAGE) Shawne at 6'2.5, but also lists Shaun Phillips at 6'3 1/8, Nick Hardwick at 6'3 6/8 and Antonio Gates at 6'3 4/8, which again doesn't add up, considering that Shawne does look easily taller than all of them: Click Here Click Here Click Here
That being said, it's funny (but certainly not surprising) how certain people here say that he never looks 6'4. Not only there are many instances where he does look 6'4, if you look at all the pics I have posted on this page, but there are certainly more instances where he looks 6'4 than 6'2 or 6'2.5.
Canson said on 23/Jun/18
@Viper: I can’t speak for English because he could look taller tbh but you’re right about Gates. In the pro bowl pic they’re standing next to each other and Gates has a little on him. Gates isn’t a 6’4 guy either. He was supposedly measured 6’3.5 but not sure if that’s a low either. I mentioned a couple days ago that the pic Andrea posted below with LT and Vernon Davis is on Davis’s FB page. That pic is full and you can tell that LT is standing much further up than Vernon and that LT has footwear advantage with thicker boots. Davis looks taller with LT than Merriman all things considered
Canson said on 23/Jun/18
@Christian: my guess is the senior bowl listing is more accurate or he may dip into the strong 6’2” range. 6’3 is absolute max on a good day. Viper is right in that Rudy Gay called him 6’2” as well and with Shawn Kemp that’s too much for him to be anything over 6’3” and that doesn’t take into account Kemp is leaning like Viper said. For good measure, here’s Kemp with Shaq and Dominique Wilkins (who is said to be 6’6.5 or 6’7 as well). I know someone who has met him and pegged him 6’6” range. Kemp is max 6’8.5. My friend who met him pegged him as around 6’2” and Viper had 6’1.5-6’2 but there’s a chance he wasn’t standing his tallest.

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viper said on 22/Jun/18
Merriman has looked 6-1 quite a bit with Marcus Allen, Omar Benson, Stephen Jackson, Mario, Jamaal Wilkes just off the top of my head. All of those I have shown except Jamaal Wilkes where I can't find the pic.

You can show examples where he looks taller than 6-2 and shorter.
viper said on 22/Jun/18
Not true Andrea. Merriman has looked shorter than Gates and Shaun Phillips.

He has looked the same height as English
Canson said on 22/Jun/18
@Andrea: the pics with Vernon Davis are no good. Davis is leaning in the one pic where we can see their full bodies.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 22/Jun/18
He looks too short to say he measured 6'4 3/8". If the measurement was 6'4" flat then just maybe I can believe it to be legit since most NFL players are about 1/4"-1/2" shorter than their measurements since the most he has looked is 6'3.5", along with 6'3", 6'2.5" and 6'2" in pics. I can confidently rule out the 6'4 3/8" as an error.
Canson said on 21/Jun/18
@Viper: yea Kemp is supposed to be 6’8.5. Merriman is not 6’4 with him for sure. He could be 6’2.5 however to be fair. Kemp may not be even a full 6’8.5 at a low tho either
Andrea said on 21/Jun/18
6'2 or 6'2.5 is quite hard to buy for the simple reason that he looks noticeably taller than every single athlete who was measured in that range, such as:
- 6'2 1/8 measured Larry English ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 4/8 measured Sean Taylor ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 1/8 measured Mark Sanchez ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 6/8 measured Melvin Fowler ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 1/8 measured Jon Condo ( Click Here ): Click Here
- 6'2 6/8 measured (and 6'2.25 listed) Tim Tebow: Click Here Click Here
As for 6'3, he can certainly look closer to that at times, but again, he looks comfortably taller than every single athlete who was measured in that range as well, such as:
- 6'3 2/8 measured Vernon Davis ( Click Here ): Click Here Click Here
- 6'3 1/8 measured Shaun Philips ( Click Here ) : Click Here
- 6'3 4/8 measured Nick Hardwick ( Click Here ) : Click Here
- 6'3 4/8 measured Antonio Gates ( Click Here ) : Click Here
- Indirectly with 6'3 1/8 measured Damien Woody ( Click Here ), considering that they both appeared with Boris and that Shawne looks closer in height to Boris than how Damien does: Click Here Click Here
That being said, even if there are several instances where he looks near enough 6'4, like in those pics with Breazeale (just to mention the most recent one), he may well be more of a weak 6'4, and that 6'4 3/8 measurement could be similar to Tim Tebow's one, who generally doesn't look over 6'2 flat, despite his 6'2.75 measurement.
Canson said on 20/Jun/18
Merriman with a weak 6’1” Ray Lewis. That’s not a 3.5” difference in height

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Canson said on 20/Jun/18
@Viper: if you go to Vernon Davis’s Facebook page (athlete), the pic with LT that was posted below is there. LT has a footwear advantage on him and is further up. Taking all of that into account he is taller than Merriman is with LT as that’s only a 4-4.5” difference in the pic that you straightened out
Canson said on 20/Jun/18
@Christian: that’s correct! In some pics that’s how it is here on this site. Someone doesn’t stand as tall as possible and it’s automatic that the other person looks “XYZ” with them. I can see Merriman maybe dropping to 6’2.25 at a low and it’s possible that the 6’2.4 is really 6’2 3/8 and not 1/2. However, I would say the same as you did he never looks as low as 6’1.5-6’2”.

@Viper: yes . Just because they’re listed at a height on TV means nothing. The NBA routinely lists people 2” or more taller than they are and that means nothing when it comes to their “actual” height
viper said on 19/Jun/18
Kemp is leaning in as well
viper said on 19/Jun/18
With 6-8.5 Shawn Kemp Click Here
viper said on 19/Jun/18
dubbadoughWell, I guess Trumpito is a legit 6’3” if he’s almost as tall as Lights Out.

HAHA
Canson said on 19/Jun/18
@Viper @Andrea:

The measurement for Brown or Merriman in 05 are the measurements that they were given during the combine. That doesn’t make it more official simply because they read it on TV when they announced either of the two as picks. If they screwed up the measurement in the combine then they would once again screw it up there on TV. Not saying either of the two is accurate or not but in Merriman’s case he has a 6’2 1/2” measurement as well as the 6’4 3/8 measurement so we are not sure which of the two is accurate. It could very well be that the former is or the latter. The problem is at times he doesn’t look as low as 6’2 or 6’2.5 in pics but he never looks 6’4” as he would if he really measured that in the morning. Even if that were a morning height, he should still be a solid 6’4 or 6’3 7/8 at a normal low which he clearly isn’t. I’d be hard pressed to say he’s taller than Vernon Davis
Canson said on 19/Jun/18
@Viper @Andrea:

The measurement for Brown or Merriman in 05 are the measurements that they were given during the combine. That doesn’t make it more official simply because they read it on TV when they announced either of the two as picks. Not saying either of the two is accurate or not but in Merriman’s case he has a 6’2 1/2” measurement as well as the 6’4 3/8 measurement so we are not sure which of the two is accurate. It could very well be that the former is or the latter. The problem is at times he doesn’t look as low as 6’2 or 6’2.5 in pics but he never looks 6’4” as he would if he really measured that in the morning. Even if that were a morning height, he should still be a solid 6’4 or 6’3 7/8 at a normal low.
viper said on 19/Jun/18
I'm sure the tv had Andre Rison at 6-1 getting drafted when he's 5-10
viper said on 19/Jun/18
Lol tv. Tv has never lied before :)
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Jun/18
@Canson

You're right. They weren't standing at their tallest and we can't see footwear.

@Viper

I can see 6'2.5" for Merriman similar to how he was measured at Senior Bowl at 6'2.4", but I'm not sure if he's as low as 6'1.5"-6'2". I don't see enough pics of him looking that low. The 6'2" Pro Day listing was probably rounded down from 6'2.4"
viper said on 18/Jun/18
NFLcombineresults is not accurate. It has Tim Brown at 6-0 when he was measured at 5-11
Canson said on 18/Jun/18
This link that Chesterfield provided below puts Brazeale at 6’6” while others say 6’7”. The 6’7”’likely come from the 6’6.5 measurement he was supposed to have received so likely rounded up

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Canson said on 18/Jun/18
@Christian, @Viper: based on what my friend told me the most I could buy is maybe 6’2.5 max. He just said “6’2ish. But In your case you mentioned 6’1.5-6’2 (weak 6’2). Based on some pics he looks taller. For example this pic I would estimate to be “about” a 3” difference. Christian raises a good point about footwear. The pic isn’t the greatest either.

The other variable is that Brazeale looks almost the same height as Anthony Joshua. Maybe half inch difference. Rob estimated AJ as a “weak 6’6”. He mentioned in response to me on his page that he doesn’t think he would measure above 6’6” flat which likely means he’s 6’5.5-6’6” zone. My guess would be about 197 and Brazeale maybe 6’6.25 a low or 6’6-6’6.25 zone. That’s very little between them. Brazeale’s 6’6.5 was likely earlier in the day as most athletes are measured in the morning. While I won’t call it out of bed it may be like a combine where he may only be 6’6 or a 6’6-6’6.25. But Even going off the low, Merriman would likely clear a flat 6’3” based on the pic but not by much. If we go off a 6’6.5 in the pic, Merriman could look close to weak 6’4”. The weak 6’4” just never adds up but neither does 6’3” because he measured “supposedly” 6’4 3/8 and 6’2.5 and supposedly 6’2”.

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Andrea said on 18/Jun/18
Even on TV, during the draft day, he was described as "6'4 3/8, 272 lbs": Click Here
Canson said on 17/Jun/18
@Viper: it’s about 3 the more I see it. About” could be slightly less or slightly more.
Canson said on 17/Jun/18
That may pass for 3” but 3.5 is high. Problem is that we don’t see how either is really standing and we don’t see footwear. This would determine a lot
viper said on 17/Jun/18
I do know Merriman is a real person and that he looked 6-1.5-6-2 fairly up close. Cansons friend saw him at 6-2. Rudy Gay played a whole basketball game with him and said 6-2. He was measured at his pro day at 6-2.

I'm gonna have to put all my money on 6-2
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 17/Jun/18
Assuming Breazeale's strong 6'6", Shawne looks about 6'3.5" next to him. But we don't know their footwear.
Andrea said on 15/Jun/18
If that's a 3-3.5 inches difference, then Breazeale's eyelevel is almost 7 inches, considering that the amount of height that Breazeale has on Shawne is less than half of his eyelevel: Click Here I'm sorry, viper, but I don't believe in aliens 😕
Canson said on 15/Jun/18
@Andrea: he could be 6’6.5 but I would say with how he looks next to AJ that he’s a touch less. I wouldn’t go under 6’6” perhaps 6’6.25 maybe max. I could say Merriman looks 6’3” but not 6’4 and in that pic he isn’t as low as 6’2”
Canson said on 15/Jun/18
@Viper: I will say this. I firmly believe that he doesn’t look more than about 6’3” in the pic. The pic isn’t the best but Merriman still looks max 6’3” imho. Brazeale is listed 6’6.5 and that’s why he got the 6’7” listing Andrea referred to as that’s what he is on the Tale of the Tape or in official listings. But as an athlete, we all know that may just be a morning height as Rob even mentioned on AJ’s page that AJ is not over 6’6” in person which with how he lists the celebs means he’s likely weak 6’6 like he did list him. Rob typically gives a celeb the benefit of the doubt. As for Brazeale, I don’t think he’s under 6’6. My guess is somewhere 6’6-6’6.5 range and Merriman based on the pic 6’2.5-6’3” but then have seen other pics where he looks less or more
viper said on 15/Jun/18
That's a 3-3.5 inch difference. Sorry Andrea
Andrea said on 15/Jun/18
If Breazeale is 6'6.5 range, which is quite possible, considering that he looks AT LEAST 2 cms taller than Joshua, then Shawne certainly doesn't look under 6'4 next to him.
viper said on 15/Jun/18
He doesn't look taller than 6-2.5 there
Canson said on 14/Jun/18
Brazeale is said to be 6’6.5 here. If AJ according to Rob is a weak 6’6 6’5.5-6’6 in person, Brazeale could even be 6’6-6’6.5 but that covers the 6’6.5 measurement as it likely was in the morning

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Canson said on 14/Jun/18
If there’s a difference between Brazeale and AJ it’s maybe half inch. At times they can even look the same. Brazeale is probably a strong 6’6”.

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viper said on 14/Jun/18
Merriman looks 6-2.5 with 6-6 Dominic
Andrea said on 13/Jun/18
That Dominic Breazeale guy generally gets listed at 6'7 and he does look comfortably taller than someone like Anthony Joshua, if you take a look at them together. So, if Anthony himself is just under 6'6, that guy must be at least 6'6-6'7, which actually puts Shawne near enough 6'4 there as he doesn't look more than 2-3 inches shorter than him (maybe right around 2.5 inches): Click Here
Chesterfield said on 6/Jun/18
Significantly shorter than 6'6 Dominic Breazeale. Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 1/Jun/18
@Christian: Thanks!
Canson said on 1/Jun/18
@Christian: I wonder how far back this goes. I had a former coworker prior to this job, that tried out in the NFL. It was all the way back in 2001 and he measured 6’5 3/8 according to the combine page but when asked how tall he was he said 6’4 7/8 to me and he did look around 6’5 as opposed to near 6’5.5 I never paid attention to it but he and I still talk on occasion and it stood out when I came on this site a few years back and looked his measurement up and remembered that after I began comparing times of day maybe last year
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 30/May/18
@Canson

Very good information
Canson said on 29/May/18
looks like NFL combine is early morning (1 hour or less out of bed). The senior bowl measurements are 3/8-1/2” lower. Below is 2006. The Senior Bowl measurements are early morning these days too as they align with the combine while Pro Day measurements are still lower

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Canson said on 26/May/18
@Christian: yea I’ve seen a lot of evidence that points to him being around 6’2.5
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 24/May/18
Looks about 1.5" taller than Kyrie Irving Click Here
Canson said on 21/May/18
@Christian: yea Beast Mode would likely be a weak 5’11 being he’d be 5’10 5/8-3/4 at a low. However, for Merriman, while there is evidence of him looking close to 6’4, there is just as much of him looking 6’2, 6’2/6’3, and 6’3. His height is all over the place. To add to that, there is a measurement of 6’2, 6’2.4, and 6’4 3/8. But It just doesn’t add up to 6’4 imho. 6’2 and change is my guess
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 17/May/18
@Canson

You're right, Lynch's about 5'10.75" at his low. It's a good rule of thumb to deduct 3/8" from players' combine heights to find out their evening heights, although some are closer to their measurements and others much lower.
Canson said on 16/May/18
a morning measured 5’11 1/8 Marshawn Lynch with Merriman. Say Beast Mode is 5’10 5/8 or 3/4 at a low, once the helmet is accounted for Merriman isn’t anything more than 6’2 or 6’2 1/2 max

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Canson said on 14/May/18
The absolute most he looks in this picture is 6’3” next to Kasim Osgood and Antonio Gates who were 6’4 7/8 and 6’3 1/2, both of which are presumably morning measurements.

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Andrea said on 11/May/18
Rob, here's the answer from the owner of couchscout, where he basically admits that his data aren't always reliable: Click Here
Although we can all agree that that 6'4 3/8 figure does seem too much for Shawne, I highly doubt he's ever measured as low as 6'2.5 as he looks noticeably taller than that with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that... That being said, a weak 6'4 is probably a better shout and maybe that 6'4 3/8 measurement is bit like Tim Tebow's one, who generally doesn't look over 6'2 flat, despite his 6'2.75 measurement.
Editor Rob
Yeah with big datasets there will be errors. I once worked for an organisation with triple redundancy form checking and errors still existed in customer data. Some guys might surprise when they measure and if that over 6ft measurement is correct it would be more like me getting 5ft 8.6 after busting a gut within 90 minutes of wakening
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 9/May/18
@Canson

Agreed 100%
Canson said on 8/May/18
@Christian: I’ve always felt that his Pro Day 6’2 1/2 may be a better Listing than 6’2” flat. If AP measured 6’1 1/2 at the combine he’s probably around a flat 6’1” at a low. Merriman imho looks 6’2-6’3”
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 7/May/18
Looks about 1.5" or 1.75" taller than 6'1" listed Adrian Peterson Click Here
Canson said on 27/Apr/18
@Viper: I doubt Smith is taller than Merriman. But agree that Smith is 6’2” at a low since he measured 6’2 3/8 at the combine
viper said on 22/Apr/18
I bet 6-2 Geno Smith would edge him out. He looks taller than Merriman
Canson said on 20/Apr/18
@Viper:

To be perfectly honest, that really doesn’t tell us that he’s 6’2. It just says that, provided he did not grow from the time he graduated high school until the end of his Sophomore year, that he is not 6’4”. It is, of course, possible that he grew, but less likely once someone hits 18 or 19. I do see your point, to a degree, if what you are saying is that College Football lists players in shoes. However, there are some that aren’t listed in shoes, as well. I’m not disagreeing that Merriman could still be 6’2” range, because that is a possibility. I’m only saying that that isn’t enough to say he’s only 6’2” because his listed height was reduced, on paper, from the time he graduated high school until he was about 20, because that could also mean that he’s 6’3” barefoot, as well
Canson said on 20/Apr/18
@Viper:

To be perfectly honest, that really doesn’t tell us that he’s 6’2. It just says that, provided he did not grow from the time he graduated high school until the end of his Sophomore year, that he is not 6’4”. It is, of course, possible that he grew, but less likely once someone hits 18 or 19. I do see your point, to a degree, of what you are saying is that College Football lists players in shoes. However, there are some that aren’t listed in shoes, as well. I’m not disagreeing that Merriman could still be 6’2” range, because that is a possibility. I’m only saying that that isn’t enough to say he’s only 6’2” because his listed height was reduced, on paper, from the time he graduated high school until he was about 20, because that could also mean that he’s 6’3” barefoot, as well
viper said on 19/Apr/18
No need to measure Merriman Rob. Already measured at 6-2.4
Canson said on 19/Apr/18
@Viper: that comment where I said @Merriman was actually a post to you
viper said on 19/Apr/18
Merriman was listed at 6-3 his first 2 years. He was listed at 6-4 in high school, at least his last 2 years.

Common sense tells you hes 6-2
Canson said on 18/Apr/18
@Andrea: and you call Moe a genuine guy when he not only insulted both Bobby and me but also Joe and several others over the years who have not agreed with him. But that should be expected from you because you’re cut from the same cloth. You do the same thing, which is why you accuse me of doing it knowing that you do. Then you go and try to find posts of disagreements I’ve had like that is supposed to be pertinent information in this discussion about Merriman? Lol. Just like Christian said in the Khodjoe argument. If you don’t like someone’s estimate that’s one thing or even the way they estimated multiple celebs, but you make it personal instead just like Rampage said about you.
Canson said on 18/Apr/18
@Merriman: knowing how football players are overlisted on college rosters, it’s possible he was 6’2 and listed 6’3, at least when he began his college career at Maryland. Now him growing over the course of his career is unlikely but not unheard of. Nor is the possibility he grew from the time he committed. There’s always a possibility his listing was never changed. However, I did see a 6’4” listing at least a handful of times at Maryland for him and never a 6’2” listing. I can recall 6’3” but it’s been so long I can’t remember exactly what he was officially listed at
Canson said on 18/Apr/18
@Andrea: go to Derek Theler’s page on 23 March 2016. That’s where Moe insulted not just me but Bobby and that was the first insult that he made against me and I simply retaliated. It’s funny you don’t mention that but that doesn’t surprise me. Because as Christian and I both said you use any evidence that supports your narrative and conveniently leave out evidence that contradicts it. You can easily tell who started the argument. All I said was that I had a hard time seeing him at that. And it became “nobody cares about your height” and then that. All because I didn’t agree with his 6’6” estimate for Theler. Had I not mentioned it, he likely wouldn’t have argued or even brought it up. And I was justified in my argument back with him. And you’re one to talk because you’ve repeatedly insulted Viper because he doesn’t agree with you and this is even after he even stopped responding to you or mentioning your name in any posts. Oh but no, you don’t realize what an insult is or that you are even doing it because you have been doing it so long to people who don’t agree with you that it is now second nature to you. Please don’t respond back to me. You’re a waste of time to even talk to and a joke.
viper said on 15/Apr/18
No muscular early bloomer like Merriman suddenly grew over an inch at the end of college after being listed at 6-3
viper said on 14/Apr/18
You mean his pro day
Andrea said on 14/Apr/18
Wow, that's all you got? “your bad English, your bad estimating skills”, what a big insult that is. As I said, you're so used to insulting any poster that disagrees with you that you don't even recognize what an insult is anymore. One thing is calling someone's estimates bad, another thing is going personal and insulting people like you often do. Funny how you don't even realize that. Same thing with moe. Sure, I said he lost credibility when he said that Tom Welling looked no more than 6'2 in person, but I've never insulted him. Just like he never insulted you. You did, though. Just because you didn't agree with him, again. I certainly find hard to buy some of his estimates, but to be fair to him, he does seem a genuine guy and certainly a lot more mature than you. How pathetic it is to bring up his job and saying that he's unemployed just because you don't agree with his estimates. You must have a really sad life to do that, constantly. And a lot of issues, of course.
As for the rest, lost cause probably doesn't even cover it...
P.S. Nice English, again! 😊
Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Viper: I think even 6’3 is Better than where he is now but 6’2.5 there is evidence of that since there is a measurement of it at the Senior Bowl.
Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Andrea: 😂 you’re one to talk about anything regarding intelligence or excuses when you walk around saying Jamie Foxx wears lifts! You say anything when someone posts something that doesn’t support your narrative. Not to mention you said there was 2cm difference with Khodjoe and Haysbert and 3 with Kobe and Boris when it’s clearly a significant difference between the pics. And then did it again with Shlique Calhoun and Merriman and Wiley and Merriman. You didn’t like the pics that were posted with them initially because they contradicted your narrative so you chose your own and made an excuse why they were for some reason better? 😂 😂 your pathetic!
Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Andrea: the same way you told 6’3” “your bad English, your bad estimating skills” and have lashed out at Viper, Christian, me of course, Bennett, and of course Rampage. So don’t continue down this path making things personal (just like rampage said you do and I agree with him). You always do this, however, when you see someone doesn’t agree with you. Wonder why that is?

And me saying what I did to all of the ones you just mentioned (funny how you had to search for all of that), was because they attacked me first. I also saw you Disagreed with Moe “saying he lost credibility” etc. that’s before he and I got into it. All I told him was that I had a hard time seeing him at that height and he began insulting me. So it’s ok for him to insult others because they don’t agree but when I respond back I’m the one in the wrong? But You are just like him tho you do it when someone doesn’t agree with you. And very childish going and looking for stuff others did in the past just like you did on Boris’s page with Christian and me. You are doing that once again here. All over the video that I posted to viper that had nothing to do with how tall Merriman was it was to make a point. And you and your comments back just because you don’t agree with something precipitated this one.
viper said on 12/Apr/18
Makes the most sense for Rob to list him at 6-2 1/2
viper said on 12/Apr/18
Well with Julian Peterson its a specific measurement of 6-5.1
Andrea said on 11/Apr/18
Like I said... Delusion at its finest! 😊
And no, I wasn't insulting you, but I was just stating a fact. But well, if you think that you "write very well and intelligently", good for you, LMFAO. Here in Italy we say "L'importante è crederci" which more or less translates to "The most important thing is to believe (in it)", which is typical of delusional people, in fact. Insults are something else. You're so used to insulting any poster that disagrees with you that you don't even recognize them anymore. You want to talk about real insults? Then go take a look at what you said to posters like moe, TheReel, Willes, Wrs567 or even me (just to name a very few, the list is quite long)... Now, what you told them or me (things like "IF you are as bad with your job in show biz as you are with estimating height and with your people skills it makes perfect sense why you are an unemployed troll like you are", "You’re a ****ing piece of ****. Why don’t you go to see a therapist." or "You probably didn't even graduate high school and sell yourself on the street to make money because it's all your good at.") are textbook examples of insults (and getting very personal). So, if anything, you are the one who has his own issues here. And most likely a very sad life too...
Canson said on 11/Apr/18
@Viper: just shows that the data from the site is not always 100% accurate. That could also be the case with Merriman as it was with Darnerian McCants who shows 6040 on Draft Scout but was listed 6’3” his entire professional football career. There are a host of other players that I have seen with similar discrepancies that could be added to that list if we took the time to research.

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Canson said on 11/Apr/18
@Andrea: Dialectical and speaking skills of a 10 year old? I think we can agree that I write very well and intelligently. No need to try to insult someone because they don’t agree with you which is what you have done with Rampage, Christian, Viper, and me. Sounds to me like you have your own issues which is why you do that
Canson said on 10/Apr/18
And that is essentially the case here because those pics you posted aren’t the best either. Not saying they’re better or worse than Vipers but they’re not enough to tell he’s a certain height when he can look shorter in several others which he does
Canaon said on 10/Apr/18
Of course they can look 6’2-6’3 if the 30 pics aren’t good pics and the 2-3 are.
viper said on 9/Apr/18
Look at this. Nfldraftscout has 6-3 Julian Peterson at 6-5.1 Click Here
Andrea said on 9/Apr/18
And also delusional, apparently...
"Make everything about volume"? What the f**k is that even supposed to mean? LMFAO As I said like 100 times (which is a constant in all my debates with you, I'm wondering why), I simply disagree with your "logic" that since a celebrity may have looked a certain mark one or two times, that means that mark is as possible as the mark they generally and more often look, or that "there are pics in either direction". It simply doesn't work this way! If a person looks say 6'4 in 30 pictures and 6'2-6'3 in 2-3 pictures, that certainly doesn't mean that 6'2-6'3 is as possible as 6'4 because 1) any person can look shorter than they are at times for one reason or another and 2) you can look shorter than you are by dropping your posture (which sometimes is hard to say), but you CANNOT look taller than you are with any kind of posture. And hey, I am the first one to say that quality is better than quantity, but most of your "arguments" are based off of a few poor pictures with bad angles, so not only you lack of quantity, but you also lack of quality. And of course you say that my evidence is not any different than yours... That's because, as I said, you have no clue about camera tricks, so every picture or video is the same in your mind (as long as the celebrity in question looks as tall as you want them to be, of course). At the same time, though, and here comes the even funnier part, you sometimes RANDOMLY bring camera angles up as some kind of "unknown entities" just to "explain" those pictures that are not convenient for your "arguments".
But again, I don't expect a guy who claims to be 36 and who has the dialectical and speaking skills of a 10 years old kid like you to understand something like that. Don't worry! 👍👍👍
viper said on 9/Apr/18
Johnson is clearly taller
viper said on 8/Apr/18
Looks no taller than 6-2 with 6-2.5 Ben Lever. Click Here
Canson said on 8/Apr/18
@Andrea: if you read my comments since this began I have said he can look multiple ranges. So for every pic you posted supporting your side of the debate, there is one that supports what Viper says. Now Viper is saying under 6’2 that I do not believe. If you remember I actually said he looks 6’3” at times or closer to it based on pics. My point that I’m making to you is that you are accusing me of doing what you’re doing here. Any pics that are posted where he looks under your argument you simply disregard or say there is an issue with the picture. There is not an issue with every pic where he looks 6’2” or 6’3. Everyone else here knows that too. There is not an issue with every pic you posted but some are not good either. That’s a fact because none of these pics is perfect. Of course there are some issues with some of the ones Viper posted and that video that I posted at the Espys was not evidence I was using. It really has no bearing other than to say that Davis doesn’t look 2” taller like Viper is saying. But this all goes back to what I said on Boris’s page to you early on that you make everything about volume. And I’m saying that respectfully. What I mean is that you say that because he looks taller in more pics (in your opinion) that those carry more weight. All I’ve said is that you could have 20 pics that show him as tall as you think and 10 where he isn’t but if those 10 are better pics than most of the 20, the sample you post is not as good. And I’m not saying 20 of yours are bad because I see you arguing that back to me. I’m simply using an example. At the same time not all of them are good at gushing height. And let’s be fair and honest here, this is a debate just like a political debate. Of course you’re going to choose pics that support your narrative which is what most did. That’s what you did. In the large post with all of your pics you don’t post any of Shawn’s (in your opinion) looking 6’2 or 6’3, you chose the ones where he looks 6’3.5+ (in your opinion) regardless of camera angle etc. if you read below I even (beginning of March or so) said on multiple posts back to you that he looks several different heights yet because I don’t agree that he definitively looks 6’3.5 like you think, I’m all of a sudden wrong. I admit with other posters I’ve jumped but only when I feel something is silly. Truly here in this debate nothing is off limits as you said it yourself his measurements are all over the place. Even though you don’t think 6’3 carries weight I think it can since there are pics where he looks 6’3 such as with Marcellus Wiley and also Shilique Calhoun (he actually looks less than 6’3” in one). That’s another example tho because you chose a different pic of them and used the perceived height diff in that pic to definitively say what it was and disregarded the pic of Shilique and Merriman that Viper posted when to be honest there is nothing wrong with the pic. But you disregarded it because it didn’t fit your argument. I’m being respectful to you in this post as well.

And what you said about me hearing or seeing something from encounters is not all true. But sometimes common sense. I actually thought he was closer to his listed height when I saw him but because he wasn’t right in front of me. So I disagreed with Viper on that initially until I saw more pics and asked someone I know who has met him that is honest about his own height and good at judging height
Canson said on 8/Apr/18
@Andrea: thanks for the compliment! You are too!
viper said on 7/Apr/18
A Merriman Hulk Hogan pic would blow up the Universe
Canson said on 7/Apr/18
@Viper: that ones not a great angle. His shoulders actually like higher than Johnson’s. But then again assuming Johnson isn’t lower than that being a morning likely
Andrea said on 6/Apr/18
LOL, you really are hopeless, Canson...
viper said on 5/Apr/18
Canson, how tall go you think he looks with 6-2.7 Spencer Johnson. Click Here

I think he looks just 6-1 there
Canson said on 5/Apr/18
@Viper: hard to tell from that video. People have different proportions so can’t tell if he’s 6’2” or not really
Canson said on 5/Apr/18
@Andrea: lol and that’s exactly what you are doing here once again. You say “I don’t see any pictures where he looks below XYZ”. Then you say that because I don’t see Merriman as taller than Davis in your pics. Then you throw in camera tricks etc. how convenient that you don’t mention that in any pic that Merriman “to you” looks 6’3.5? lol that’s common sense though because you cherry pick and are biased and take whatever supports your narrative for each celeb. You’re a hypocrite as stated before. And at least for me I have been objective here saying that his height looks all over the place but once again if someone doesn’t “agree with you on how someone looks in a pic” all hell breaks loose on the forum. And you’re so sure of yourself too. Quite funny with Marcellus Wiley three other people have said Merriman looks at best 6’3” yet you say “on authority” that he is not. Instead, you “cherry pick” a different picture where he does look taller than Wiley and say that the pic that was posted first is no good because it doesn’t support your narrative. So really let’s cut the crap, Andrea

My pics are at a disadvantage? Yours really aren’t better. The only reason that you say they are is because you can see footwear which in some pics with certain celebs appear to be the only ones available which is what a handful of other posters do when it comes down to a pic with no ground footwear etc vs a pic with all of it shown even if there is a poor angle of the camera or if someone is leaning and that pic is used as evidence all of a sudden. So you don’t say anything about Viper’s pic that he posted (regardless of not seeing footwear etc) but yours where Davis is leaning very clearly is a good pic. And the video I posted of them at the Espys was actually not meant to say that Merriman is only this or that. Viper initially said that Davis is 2” taller and I happened to find the video and I actually disagreed with him. All I said was my opinion that the diff would be at most an inch or that they would be similar in height with one another not 2” like Viper said. Yet you’re attacking me because I posted it? It was a simple response because Viper said before “I posted pics back about 10 years ago that Davis edged Merriman by 2”. I found the pics and simply said how I felt which was disagreeing with him on it being a 2” diff
viper said on 4/Apr/18
He looks 6-2 physically here Click Here
Andrea said on 4/Apr/18
LOL, that's exactly what you always do, Canson. With every celebrity. Not only with Shawne (or Boris). You cherry-pick only those photos (or videos) that support your narrative and just disregard all the other stuff that go against it or, when openly challenged, you just lie and/or make ridiculous excuses. And since most of the time your photos are photos where the celebrity in question is at camera disadvantage (which is something you obviously have no clue about), you regularly accuse people of making excuses whenever they try to explain it to you. You're just a lost cause. It's not surprising that RisingForce, who is one of the best posters on here (meaning that he never posts things with bias and he has a very good knowledge about height differences, camera tricks, etc.), just quitted that very long discussion he had with you on Charles Barkley's page and stopped answering your comments. That's because he realized that he was wasting his time with you. To be fair to him, he's been even too patient... And you even have the nerve to call yourself "objective"? LMFAO Trust me, you're the exact opposite of it. You're one of the most biased posters I've ever seen on here, in fact. You decide how tall a certain celebrity must be, most of the time based only on alleged meetings and random estimates (which you cherry-pick as well, of course), and once you do that, you act consequently and do what I said above. That's like a recurring pattern for every page you comment on.
And no, don't worry, as I said like 100 times, I don't get pissed if someone doesn't agree with me, especially if that's you (believe me, your opinion is not as important as you think it is on here). There's a bunch of posters that I consider very valuable on here, but whose opinions don't always coincide with mine. That certainly doesn't make them less reliable or respectable, though. What I don't like are those ones that comment with bias or hidden agenda and even try to impose their point of view, just like you constantly do on this site. That's all!
That being said, I'm glad we at least agree on something. Let's just end this discussion here because I've already seen that. It would obviously bring nowhere and just make us waste our time. I think that's pretty clear...
viper said on 3/Apr/18
I'm starting to compare shoe sizes from these pics. Merrimans look the same as Tom Brady's size 12's. You can tell Boris's are at least 13.
Canson said on 3/Apr/18
@Viper: thank you for at least conducting yourself professionally and not pouting or ridiculing when someone doesn’t agree with you or support your narrative!
Canson said on 3/Apr/18
Thanks Andrea that’s the best thing for all of us as this discussion is getting just like it did on the Boris Khodjoe page and we don’t need that!

Camera tricks? Hahaha! As Christian and I both said you make excuses about camera angle and grass (with Anthonio Gates) only when Merriman doesn’t look 6’3.5+. Now you’re bringing that up again here because the pics don’t support your narrative. As you see here I tried hard to remain objective here but you don’t allow anyone to. So once again you get pissed at anyone who doesn’t agree with you and bring camera tricks into it like that doesn’t exist in the other pics where Merriman looks over 6’3.5+ (of course you fail to mention that though which is your usual) Only to support your view so I agree let’s end it
Canson said on 3/Apr/18
@Viper: It’s tough to tell from the angle but I would doubt at worst that He’s shorter than Merriman is
Canson said on 2/Apr/18
@Viper: one thing I will say is from the buddy who actually stood face to face that person said about 6’2ish which is similar to how you saw him. Then again I was a couple hundred feet away and really didn’t make anything of it. Assumed he as around my height and my 6’3 friend’s. My guess is he doesn’t dip below 6’2” if he’s that low at all.
viper said on 2/Apr/18
I wonder If 6-2 measured Junior Seau told people he was 6-5 in high school when he was listed as that
viper said on 2/Apr/18
Early muscular bloomers like Merriman and Rock peaked in height at 14, and no later than 15.

Reminds me of the 2 oldest guys in my high school who peaked at 14 and were big dudes, the one being a runningback. They looked 30 at 16, and still look about the same now at 37.

Both Rock and Merriman looked old in high school
Andrea said on 2/Apr/18
Whatever you say, Canson. After your last comments, I'm honestly done talking to you. You have no clue about camera tricks such as camera angles and camera positions (my pictures are not better than that clip... really?) and you regularly accuse people of making excuses whenever you don't understand these things. I don't want to start another endless debate, though, so let's just end this here. From now on, I'll just ignore any comment of yours...
Goodbye Canson!
Canson said on 2/Apr/18
@Andrea: you’re wrong. Davis is clearly standing worse with LT than Merriman. The picture Viper posted where he enhanced Merriman is standing perfectly with LT while Davis is leaning like he has in many of the other pics. The difference in the pic Viper posted is clearly around a 4” difference with Merriman and LT. maybe it’s 4-4.5” but not higher than that
viper said on 2/Apr/18
It's amazing how other actors say Tom Welling is 6-5 lol. I'm still unsure on his height.
viper said on 1/Apr/18
Obviously it's not the best camera angle favoring Vernon, but you can still easily tell he's taller. You can also tell Merrimans eyes are looking UP at Vernon no question
Canson said on 1/Apr/18
@Viper: assuming the Rock is still a full 6’2 (he may be under by a hair) Merriman doesn’t have more than maybe 1/2” or 2cm on him but that’s still gonna put Merriman at at least 6’2 maybe even 189cm
Canson said on 1/Apr/18
@Viper: I’d have a hard time seeing him measure only 6’1.5-.7. A 6’2 1/2 Senior Bowl even if that were morning would make him around 6’2-6’2.25 range. It’s difficult to see him less than that to be honest. And to have the audacity to say he’s 6’5 lol. But it’s difficult to see him any higher than maybe 6’2.5-6’3 at the same time. When you met him he may not have been standing his tallest or maybe someone had an advantage or disadvantage with footwear. But I’d be hard pressed to see him less than 6’2
Canson said on 1/Apr/18
@Andrea: when you say Merriman looked noticeably taller with too many people what about the others like Vincent Jackson, Vince Young etc. he’s clearly 2” shorter than both guys. Antonio Gates is also taller than him btw. They’re standing on level ground so I can’t see an advantage Gates would have that Merriman won’t. That sounds more like an excuse to be honest. But if you want to say he looked noticeably taller I can say he looked 6’2” or maybe 6’3 in some and between the two numbers I see more evidence of him being either of the two than 6’4. The 6’3.5 even tho he can look it I agree, doesn’t seem right if he accurately measured 6’4 3/8? He would still be 6’4” or 6’3 7/8. I think it’s more likely that he’s 6’2 range maybe not flat but the 6’2.4 could be about what he looks.
Canson said on 1/Apr/18
@Andrea: it is the case. Boris has a footwear advantage on him. A canvas shoe is not as much as what Boris has on. I understand your view but you can’t say something isn’t true or isn’t the case just because you don’t believe it or choose not to believe it.

As far as Merriman and Davis in that clip I actually was telling viper that it is difficult to determine their exact difference. He was saying it’s 2” when I can’t tell. All I can tell is that they look about the same and from the view I would have to say Davis probably is the taller of the two or they’re around the same height

As far as biased, you do pick and choose what you want to believe when you say “there is no evidence of so and so looking less than....”. Your pics with Merriman and Davis really are no better than the video and to be honest I’m not seeing Merriman taller than Davis in them. Your pics are not better than the one that Viper posted to be honest other than that we can see footwear but Davis’s posture (I think everyone here will agree except you) is worse than Merriman’s.
Andrea said on 1/Apr/18
Who said that Condo looks taller, Canson? Condo does look noticeably shorter than Shawne: Click Here And he's supposed to have been measured at 6'2 1/8 on draftscout: Click Here Or even 6'2 3/8 on that page that has Shawne down at 6'2 flat...
As for Ladainian, I don't see the connection, but I don't think he looks just about 4 inches shorter than Shawne like you say. If that's only 4 inches, then the difference between Vernon and the same Ladainian is no more than 3 inches: Click Here And no, before you say that, Vernon isn't standing any worse than Shawne next to Ladainian. And, if anything, Shawne looks more disadvantaged than Vernon, considering that he looks further away from the camera compared to him!
Canson said on 31/Mar/18
@Andrea: when you said Condo looks taller he may in fact be. Remember you also said Merriman looks more than 4” taller than Lt when with the pic viper posted (even ground) it’s abojt 4”. So not sure your pic is anymore reliable than the other one. We honesty will never know which is more reliable
viper said on 31/Mar/18
That's the one I'm talking about. Even with the camera angle Vernon is clearly taller
Andrea said on 31/Mar/18
LOL, that clip is awful, Canson. Shawne could still be easily taller than him there and it would be impossible to tell, considering that Vernon is standing noticeably closer to the camera...
Funny how those two standing side by side pictures are not enough to tell that Shawne is taller than Vernon, according to you, but at the same time this clip is. As I said, it is certainly not my intention to start a new fight, but this is called being biased.
viper said on 30/Mar/18
Andrea, upgrading a guy by 2 inches....

Pics don't tell the whole story when he looked 6-1-6-2 up close, Cansons friend seeing him at 6-2,

Rudy Gay playing basketball with him in a charity basketball game and saying he's 6-2, different sources saying he's 6-2 along with a 6-2.4 exact.

If he was measured at 6-1.5-6-1.7 I could have easily bought that since that's what he looked like in person
Andrea said on 30/Mar/18
That's not really the case, Canson. At the very worst, you can say he looks 6'3.5 with Kobe, assuming that Kobe really is as low as 6'4.75, but overall even that mark does seem too low for him. 6'3 is BS. That being said, I don't know why you always bring Boris up, but I'm not going to start any new discussion about him with you. You think he's no more than 6'3? That's fine. As I said, I certainly don't need your approval or to convince you he's comfortably taller than that...
As for Shawne, regardless of any measurement, I think he generally can look anywhere from 6'3 up to 6'4, but 6'2? That certainly seems too low. He has looked noticeably taller than that with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that...
Canson said on 29/Mar/18
@Viper: in the video I posted of Davis and Merriman The camera angle is bad. But I could see Merriman being no taller than Davis as a best case for him. Worst case he’s prob an inch shorter. That clip wasn’t enough for me to say 2” tbh but Davis’s shoulders appear higher and he’s imho taller
Canson said on 29/Mar/18
@Viper: yea it’s at the Espys but prob not the same one you’re thinking of. I posted below.

Click Here

As far as Sharpe, he may be 6’1 and change easily and could’ve had footwear advantage which is why you thought he was 6’2. I saw Merriman from max couple hundred feet and assumed he was close to me in height but then again saw James Brown up close and thought he was a fraction taller. Brown called himself 6’4.5-6’5 maybe he’s 6’4 5/8-.75 which explains why he looked a fraction taller than me
viper said on 29/Mar/18
What's really preposterous in thinking he's 6-4 is that he did not grow an inch from his listed 6-3 after his sophomore year. A fully developed guy like that similar to Rock.

Use your head. That and the 6-2 from different sources and 6-2.4
Canson said on 29/Mar/18
@Andrea: he looked well under 6’4” with Kobe. He also had a footwear advantage on Kobe. He looks Max 6’3” with Kobe. And he also looked about that with michael Jordan same with Jamie Foxx. Now many of the ones you posted he can look taller but from what I’ve seen I never thought Boris was that tall. Now Shawne he can look all over. There are times he looks 6’4 or close to it in some pics prob a bunch to be honest but then 6’2” in a bunch then actually surprisingly 6’3” in many but no measurements in that range. To be honest I have had times where I could almost argue 6’3” over 6’2 at least a weak 6’3 based on appearance, but I think about the measurements where they fall
Andrea said on 29/Mar/18
Canson, I don't think that Shawne looks shorter than Gates in that other picture. Plus, it's an outside picture, on the grass, so there's always a chance the ground is uneven and advantageous to either person. Look at Nick Hardwick on the right. He looks taller than Shawne, but I find it hard to believe he really is because he did look comfortably shorter than him in that famous picture with Ladainian: Click Here The other picture I've posted is a lot more reliable than that because it's taken inside, so the ground isn't uneven for sure. And Shawne does look taller than Gates: Click Here
Andrea said on 29/Mar/18
Yeah, viper, too bad that Shawne's listing doesn't fit with those other ones (such as Condo's on NFL.com and Gates' and Rivers' on couchscout). Here's (one of the many reasons) why 6'2 (or even 6'2 4/8) is BS. Fake news at its finest, just like you...
viper said on 29/Mar/18
Sorry Andrea you are
viper said on 29/Mar/18
David Haye looks the same next to Rock as Merriman does
Canson said on 28/Mar/18
@Andrea: to be fair Len Pasquereli is going to take whatever Merriman is officially listed as. If he hasn’t seen Merriman up close which he likely didn’t before the combine he will just take what another reporter says at face value. He isn’t going to call Merriman shorter than he is listed as I’ve nevrr heard him downgrade a listing from a combine or college listing/ maybe someone like Skip Bayless but not Len. But the 6’2” listings didn’t all come from the same site. One is 6’2” the other 6’2.4. As far as Merriman Gates and Rivers, that pic is not good because the Pro Bowl pic Viper posted Gates is about half inch (at least) taller than Merriman is. It’s not hard to believe Gates at 6’3.4 because the pic with Rivers and them is not the best to determine their heights. I would think Rivers is that height at least on a morning measurement and likely not lower than a weak 6’5 afternoon worst case. Gates however has no combine measurement but does have the 6’3.4 which we aren’t sure when that was taken but Viper has a point he did get listed 6’3 in college. Chances are he’s even lower than that but if he’s not means Merriman once again looks max 6’3 just like he has in many other pics we’ve seen here (most of these actually 6’2 range).
viper said on 28/Mar/18
Merriman looks 6-2 max with Binn
viper said on 27/Mar/18
I did think Shannon Sharpe looked about 6-2 from a close range. I was wrong
viper said on 27/Mar/18
What Vernon video clip are you talking about. On the 2008 Espys red carpet Vernon looked 2 inches taller than Merriman with the camera closer to him.

Too bad it's not on YouTube anymore
viper said on 27/Mar/18
Heres why the 6-2 is legit, because both NFL.com and couchscout have him at 274 pounds.

That paper description has him at 275. So a different source. The fake news 6-4.3 has him at 272.

Another paper has him from that same other source at 6-2 274
Canson said on 27/Mar/18
@Viper: Andrea really doesn’t upgrade people like that. I can say that with honesty and am sure because others he doesn’t upgrade. Technically Merriman and Boris aren’t upgrades since Rob lists them at the heights he does here. If anything the only upgrade would be if He advocated them being taller than they are. I only say what I do because people accuse me (as well as you) of downgrading people here when I don’t. I just know people lie about their height. Being a 6’4” guy who does not lie about his, it is pretty clear when I can wear different footwear including flats or casual shoes on occasion and spot a difference there and still tell the person is nowhere near their claim. I mean it’s more prevalent and visible to me now because of this as I do see people claim something like 6’4 when they have more footwear on and I still edge them that’s pretty bad. Most will try every excuse in the book until either two other honest people are there or until a measuring tape is In sight and they have no way out is my experience
Andrea said on 27/Mar/18
You wish I were, viper. You wish...
Btw, learn to read because that's not what I said! 😉
Andrea said on 27/Mar/18
I disagree, Canson. In Boris' case, there aren't "several occurrences where he looks under 6'4", but he basically always looks at least 6'4 with every person he appears with. That being said, there are definitely a VERY FEW occasions where you could say that fraction under 6'4 isn't impossible for him (like that picture with Kobe, in fact). 6'3 certainly is though, IMO.
As for Shawne, he certainly seems trickier than Boris because, unlike him, his height can vary a lot, BUT there are a lot more pictures where he looks nearer 6'4 than 6'2, hence why I can't buy any 6'2 estimate for him (besides the fact that I'm not even sure there is even one single DECENT picture where he can really look as low as that).
And, as I already said, I don't agree with your logic that since a person may have looked a certain mark one or two times, that means that mark is as possible as the mark they generally and more often look, or that "there are pics in either direction". It simply doesn't work this way! Look at Colin Salmon. He doesn't look over 6'3 with Rob, so there is certainly at least one occasion where he looks 6'3. Does that mean that 6'3 is as possible as 6'4? I certainly wouldn't say so, considering that he generally looks at least 6'4 in every movie I've seen of him...
viper said on 27/Mar/18
Yes Andrea, that 6-2.4 exact measurement certainly came from the same source. Hahaha

As usual you are upgrading another person.
Canson said on 27/Mar/18
@Viper: Gates wasn’t invited to the combine either. Not sure if the 6’3 1/2 that Andrea found is his lowest or not but I doubt he’s under 6’3 nonetheless. He’s likely a hair over 6’3 more likely
Canson said on 26/Mar/18
@Viper: you are a year or so older than me. I’m 36 myself. Been a MD fan too and a Hoyas Fan since the 80s
Canson said on 26/Mar/18
@Viper: Booth in person looked my height or maybe at best a half inch taller. It’s possible we were the same tho because at times he didn’t look any taller.

@Andrea: I agree with some of your points as well as Viper’s
viper said on 26/Mar/18
In the newspapers Gates was listed at
6-3 in college
viper said on 26/Mar/18
Not sure If Keith Booth is as low as 6-4. I saw him listed at 6-4 on a NBA draft site. I know 6-4 listed Laron Profit in the newspaper is 6-4 max seeing him up close.

I did see Keith Booth sitting underneath the basket at a Maryland game his freshmen year standing at the foul line. My dad said he looked huge. Back then at 13 believing in listed heights I would have thought 6-5. He was listed at 6-5 his first 2 years, then 6-6 his last 2.
Andrea said on 26/Mar/18
Sorry viper, but the only thing that is not a coincidence here is you downgrading a celebrity... Another one! 😊
Those 6'2 descriptions (on NFL.com and in papers) probably all came from the same place that was uncorrect. I mean, that NFL.com page also lists Jon Condo at 6'2 3/8. Now it is certainly hard to believe that Shawne is 6'2 and Jon 6'2 3/8, considering that this is how they look next to each other: Click Here
As for couchscout, we've already been there. It's an unofficial site that has also been proven to be not exempt of errors. Plus, as I recently showed, the same couchscout also has Antonio Gates and Philip Rivers down at 6'3 4/8 and 6'5 respectively, ON THE SAME PAGE. Again, Shawne's listing certainly doesn't fit with theirs, considering that he looks taller than Gates and a bit shorter than Rivers: Click Here
Apart from those two sites, Merriman is listed and described as 6'4 everywhere. Click Here Here they even say: "Merriman measured 6-feet-4 and 272 pounds on Saturday and looked like his frame could handle another 10-15 pounds with no problem". And that was stated by Len Pasquarelli from ESPN.com, who I'm sure has a lot more knowledge about football than you...
Canson said on 26/Mar/18
@Andrea: in regards to Camera Tricks, I understand what you are saying but you also need to keep that in mind because other pics that are against an argument you have that can be the case as well. That’s all I’m saying
Canson said on 26/Mar/18
@Andrea: agreed I think we are having a more civil discussion now and I would like to continue! All I was saying is that if there are pics in either direction (which i admit I’m guilty of as well with Boris) they have to be considered too and can’t just be disregarded. As far as Boris tho there are several occurrences where he looked under 6’4 as well like with Kobe and Jamie Foxx and some others (I only say that because you mentioned Boris always looks 6’4). Now with Merriman I have to admit he looks different heights. With Trump I think it’s a good 2” to be honest where he looks 6’2 range and you could be right maybe 6’3”. But the 6’3” is what I mentioned before when you said there were no measurements at that but there is evidence. Then he can look close to 6’4” still looking 6’2 in pics Viper has posted. You have to admit with Antonio Gates in the pic he just posted with Binn Merriman at best looks 6’3”. Gates is taller than him there
viper said on 25/Mar/18
6-3 David Binn is clearly taller than Merriman. Click Here
viper said on 25/Mar/18
Sorry Andrea, the 6-2 on NFL.com, 6-2 in papers, and 6-2.4 on couchscout arnt a coincidence
viper said on 25/Mar/18
Gates looks taller than Merriman there
Canson said on 25/Mar/18
@Andrea: I wonder if the 2004 data exists. You found 2005 and posted below. I ask because I’m curious to see what Eli measured. He doesn’t look 195cm. He’s not as tall Ben Roethlsberger. Just curious to see what he measured outside the combine
Canson said on 25/Mar/18
@Andrea and Viper: to add to my last post to Viper, I can’t see the 6’2.4 or 6’2 being misprints only because there are two measurements of him at 6’2 vs only the one combine at 6’4 3/8. For Merriman being an undersized Defensive End in college I can easily see them listing him 6’4” when he was shorter. I can see a mistake there or even possibly them giving him the benefit of the doubt possibly which they do in the NBA all the time. Look at guys like Dwayne Wade he for sure does not look anything remotely close to 6’4” without shoes. I even know a scout who has interacted with him and said that he’s nowhere near as tall as Lebron james. He said Lebron himself looked 6’7” but that Wade is roughly his height of 6’2 or maybe a hair taller essentially saying as well he’d be surprised if he is 6’3” as there was a minimal difference at best. I’d also be surprised if he’s as tall as Viper looking at him. Wade doesn’t look as tall as Bradley Beal to be honest. Beal measured 6’3.25 (morning) but Is said to have grown. My guess is maybe he’s 6’3-6’3.5 today at a low. John Wall has also said before he himself Is 6’1” (probably more like 6’1.5-.75). Also know two people who’ve met Wall and both said they be surprised if he’s 6’2” or over. One is 6’3 the other 6’0”. Now with Merriman he can give off a taller impression in some pics but I would be hard pressed to have him anything over maybe 6’2.5. 6’2” like Viper says makes sense if his measurement was really 6’2.3 vs 6’4.3 as the combine is AM. But I’d say he could be a touch over 6’2 to be honest
Andrea said on 25/Mar/18
Canson, just because you aren't (or at least you don't seem to be) aware of camera tricks such as camera angles and camera positions doesn't mean that I make excuses. We've already been there, though, and I certainly am not gonna start a new discussion. If the picture is good and Shawne looks shorter than what I may think he is, I have no problem to "admit" it. For example, I am the first one who posted that picture with Trump by saying that I wouldn't have guessed him over 6'3 with him (certainly not as low as 6'2 either, though). I mean, that's a decent picture and a good example of Shawne looking no more than 6'3. As for that picture with Vince Young, I agree that Shawne can seem at least a couple inches shorter than him, but again, the camera is low and Vince's head is closer to the camera, hence I am sure he has some camera advantage over him...
P.S. Since you brought up Boris again, I must say that I am a lot more sure about Boris than about Shawne because, unlike Shawne, Boris' height doesn't vary so much, but he basically always looks the same range with every celebrity he meets: at least 6'4. In Boris' case, in fact, I am 100% sure he's comfortably over 6'3 and, as I said, I would bet all of my money on it. In Shawne's case, I would just say that it is very, very, very unlikely that he's nearer 6'2 than 6'4 because he looks too tall with way too many people (the majority of whom was measured as well) to be as short as that...
Canson said on 25/Mar/18
@Viper: I’m definitely not seeing a weak 6’2 with Castillo. I doubt Merriman is that low and he never really looks less than 6’2”. I can make my argument that he looks a strong 6’2” most of the time and even a weak 6’3” in addition to your argument and Andrea’s. But Castillo and Merriman look close in height to Andrea’s credit but in no way is Castillo shorter than Merriman to my eye. If he is it isn’t anything that we would be able to judge without them back to back. Meaning the best I can see for Merriman is 6’2 1/2 maybe. And Jackson being a morning measurement would put him 6’4.3 max like his senior Bowl. So Castillo likely is more like 6’2 1/4 or 3/8 too but even if we were to say that there is a camera angle there which there could be, it is not enough to say that Merriman is a full inch taller than Castillo let alone 1.5”. To me a best case is if there is a camera angle that those two could be the same height or thereabouts but it’s clear that both are shorter than Jackson even with an advantage. My point to Andrea was, in fairness, that evidence exists on both sides. His and yours both. We can’t simply negate pics or say there is no evidence of him looking 6’3.5-6’4 because there is but we also cannot hide the fact that he does often enough look the height you say he is. And in this case, the pic with Davis that you posted (in my honest opinion) is no worse than the ones Andrea posted as there is some degree of camera angle influence or posture etc in each of the 3 or 4 pics we’ve seen. So my point is that one is just as good as the next as a result. In addition, the pic with Jackson shows your point along with the one with Vince Young and the Espy video with Davis that you posted on a different page. I posted it here but not sure where it went or whether rob posted it. I’ll find it tho and repost it because it’s there on this site. In addition there are other pics where he looks 6’2”.

To Andrea’s credit tho, James Brown pic along with the one with Condo where he looks close in height with him but the other guy in the pic he looks around same. Then the pic with LT he has a point that Merriman looks 6’3.5 maybe with Osgood but with Lorenzo Neal and LT Merriman looks 6’2” range. So even in one pic Merriman can give an appearance of multiple different height ranges.

As for when you met Merriman, it’s possible he wasn’t standing at his tallest but I doubt that is going to make him 2” taller either maybe 1/2” (you said he could look sub 6’2 possibly). Also possible there was a footwear difference between you two. But I see Davis with him and it is hard for me to say Merriman is taller than Davis let alone even as tall. Davis to me looked roughly 6’3”. Despite the poor posture he exhibits in some of these pics that we’ve seen in this debate, he stood tall next to me. For comparison one of my best friends is your height. He is 60 years old as well and dips a hair below 6’3” at night to 190.3 I believe. He looks pretty much the same as Davis imho. But Davis is built better and doesn’t have the body fat he has so I could argue either way but with a 6’3.25 combine I am hard pressed to put Davis much above 6’3 (even tho with good posture he had he could look it) and to me there’s a better chance he’s under the mark than over now that I see that the combine was early morning the year he was drafted. I guessed Davis 1-1.5” shorter than me. Possible it was a full 1.5 or close but There’s always a chance there’s a footwear advantage of some sort even the slightest fraction impacts the measurement or comparison.
viper said on 25/Mar/18
No, Laron Profit was always listed at 6-5.

Some other site had Keith Booth at 6-4
viper said on 25/Mar/18
Antonio Gates is strange. He looked shorter than 6-3 Terrell Suggs on family feud.
Andrea said on 25/Mar/18
Wow, Canson agrees with you, viper??? Then you must be right for sure. To be fair, Canson is the only guy on here who still takes you seriously...
Andrea said on 25/Mar/18
Unfortunately, that clip with Vernon is useless because Vernon is standing noticeably closer to the camera and it's impossible to tell any height difference (or even who is the taller one)...
Andrea said on 25/Mar/18
Canson, to be fair, Vernon isn't standing any different than Shawne next to Ladainian. And, if anything, Shawne looks more disadvantaged than Vernon, considering that he looks further away from the camera compared to him!
Canson said on 25/Mar/18
@Andrea: but you keep saying because Rivers or Gates aren’t much taller. That’s In that particular picture they aren’t but look at Vince Young with Merriman he’s clearly 2” taller same with Jackson. There are def pictures you posted where Merriman looks the height you think he is but you can’t simply make an excuse for the ones where he looks 6’2 or negate them and say well they don’t exist. They count as evidence too. That’s why I mentioned before and agree with you that his height is all over the place even more than Boris. I think Boris could edge him out to be honest. The more I see of Boris the more I believe he’s a solid 6’3 and that Merriman could be a strong 6’2 to be honest. And Castillo doesn’t have much advantage on Merriman by the way. Look at their eye levels and their heads are similar size and look at how they stack up to Jackson. They line up to their combine measurements and Merriman lines up to 6’2 pro day and 6’2 1/2 Senior Bowl imho
viper said on 24/Mar/18
I'm more excited about Rob adding the only New Orleans Saints player in the Hall of Fame on here, Rickey Jackson.
viper said on 24/Mar/18
Still can't believe Andrea thought Castillo looked shorter. No way
viper said on 24/Mar/18
Sorry Andrea, that's at least an inch difference with Maybin and Maybin's posture isn't even as good. Merriman looks 6-2 range there and with better posture by Maybin Merriman looks a weak 6-2.

So to say Vernon is taller in the same pic when Merriman looks 6-2 range next a guy with worse posture......

If Vernon was standing next to Merriman with the same posture as him he would be looking the same height as Maybin
viper said on 24/Mar/18
It's funny how Andrea doesn't believe I saw Merriman up close. I'm 37 years old and have been a Maryland fan since the 80s. I've been to a million Maryland basketball and football games
viper said on 24/Mar/18
It's funny how Andrea doesn't believe I saw Merriman up close. I'm 37 years old and have been a Maryland fan since the 80s. I've been to a million Maryland basketball and football games
viper said on 24/Mar/18
Canson Merriman looks a weak 6-2 with Castillo
viper said on 24/Mar/18
Andrea, that was such a great try that Canson agrees with me
Canson said on 24/Mar/18
With Ray Lewis he definitely doesn’t look over 6’2.5 maybe. He also has a footwear advantage in one pic and a camera advantage even then Ray is well above his eyebrows. In the other pic it’s about 6’2. Ray has 1 listing of 6’0 5/8 and looks no taller than Trump. Likely 6’0.5-.75 zone

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Canson said on 24/Mar/18
@Andrea: that’s correct and I agree but Vernon davis is clearly not standing straight with Tomlinson. That’s as obvious as you get. If we were to negate some of Viper’s pictures then we should not use these two comparisons of the two because it’s not much better if at all
Canson said on 24/Mar/18
@Viper: I sure do! Wasn’t he listed at 6’6 when he played? At least at one point? Yea I thought he was a legit 6’5” guy. I’ve actually balled with keith Booth before. He’s listed as 6’6” but in reality isn’t noticeably taller than me. Maybe 195cm (6’4.75) but I wouldn’t go much higher than that (1/2”) on me. He could also be 6’4.5 honestly because I felt at times we were the same height and I couldn’t tell 1/4” diff
Andrea said on 24/Mar/18
I couldn't find any draftscout measurement for him, but this Antonio Gates guy is supposed to have been measured at 6'3 4/8 on couchscout: Click Here Click Here
Funny how, according to couchscout, Gates is supposed to have been measured at 6'3 4/8, Philip Rivers (the guy on the right) at 6'5... and Shawne at 6'2 4/8! This goes to show that that 6'2 4/8 figure must have been a typo or something, considering that there's simply no way that Shawne is 1 inch shorter than Gates and 2.5 inches shorter than Rivers.
Andrea said on 24/Mar/18
Well, me, on the other hand, I think that Shawne is taller than Vernon. And I'm not just saying that because I want to say that (or because I think that he looks "physically taller", which admittedly makes no sense), but I have a good reason for thinking that way: 2 good pictures where Shawne looks easily taller.
As for that picture with Castillo and Jackson, the camera angle plays a big role in it, so I don't see how you can say "regardless of camera angle". I agree that Jackson would still be taller taller than Shawne, but I'm sure the difference would be less than how it appears there. The same goes for Castillo.
viper said on 24/Mar/18
Canson do you remember Laron Profit playing basketball for Maryland in the 90s. I thought he was the one legit listed 6-5 until I saw him up close at a Maryland game a few years ago. He looked no more than 6-4 and I was surprised.

Then I see he was listed at 6-4 before the draft.
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Viper: I have to agree Merriman isn’t looking anything over 6’2” or 6’2.5 with Trump
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Viper and Andrea: this is the video you were prob talking about Viper. Sure Davis is closer to the camera but Merriman is definitely not taller than he is. I would think Davis is but not sure they could be about the same

Click Here
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Andrea: An aged Steven seagal with Him. Seagal is likely under 6’4 today and still is taller even with his head tilted somewhat
viper said on 23/Mar/18
Couchscout has Martavis Bryant at 6-3.4
Andrea said on 23/Mar/18
LOL, if anything, that picture should rule out any chance of 6'2 for Shawne, considering that he looks comfortably taller than Vernon and quite close to Aaron. Nice try though, viper. Nice try...
Andrea said on 23/Mar/18
Canson, if Shawne looks only 6'2 with Ladainian, then Vernon looks no more than 6'1...
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Viper: Maybin’s combine is actually 6’3.6 (3/4). Meaning he’s probably not that tall really because it’s morning so I would go with 6’3 3/8 esp since he got one at 6’3 7/8 (from what you’re saying). Still same result if he’s got Shawne by an inch that makes Merriman around 6’2 3/8 prob
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Andrea: I respect your opinion. I don’t think Davis is shorter than Merriman on the other hand. I would have him slightly taller. Jackson does look taller regardless of camera angle. You see Castillo next to both guys and they look (minus Merriman) what their combines would be in the AM. Meaning Castillo and Jackson. And I have to agree with Viper in that Castillo does look taller than Merriman. He’s certainly not shorter than him. Jackson has less difference with Castillo who measured 6’2.6 (likely 6’2 1/4 or 3/8) than with Merriman. Meaning it has to be around a 2” diff with Merriman. The reason the height decreases right to left is because Jackson is the tallest followed (likely) by Castillo followed (likely) by Merriman. Meaning Merriman’s combine measurement is likely an error and he’s more than likely 6’2” range. Maybe not a flat 6’2” but I can see him being a strong 6’2” perhaps
viper said on 23/Mar/18
IMO Rob should bring Merriman down on that pic alone. Absolute perfect posture, footwear and all and looking at least an inch shorter than 6-3.7 Aaron Maybin.
Andrea said on 23/Mar/18
That's not really the case, Canson, but, as I said, I certainly don't need to convince you... Regardless of Shawne's real height, he certainly does look taller than Vernon. How much is arguable, but I highly doubt they are the same height. Let alone Shawne being shorter!
As for Vincent Jackson's picture, I don't quite see as much as 2 inches between them. And that's without taking into account the fact that the camera angle is favoring the right side (hence Vincent). I'm sure the difference would be less than that in an "ideal picture"...
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Andrea: confirmed may be a bad way to describe but what I meant was he looks 6’2 with LT because in other pics he can look where you have him. But it means that there is evidence in both directions
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Viper: the times for the Pro Days is interesting. I wondered how some of the players measured close to their combine in some. Many measure lower though in their pro days. But even an afternoon measurement for some could result in sleep if the players know that it impacts the measurement. I think uniformity would be great tho. However, an example is Baker Mayfield. They stated that his Senior Bowl was private measurement as he was 1/4 below there. I’d be Curious to see how tall he was at his pro day or if he’s aware that laying down impacted it now
Canson said on 23/Mar/18
@Andrea: I respectfully disagree. As a matter of fact that just confirms that Davis is leaning with LT as Merriman only looks 6’2 (4” difference) in the pic Viper provided. Davis is standing poorly in at least 2 of those three noticeably. The first one wth them they look the same height Merriman is not taller than him. As for Jackson that is a 2” difference in height so Jackson at 6’4 3/8 would make Merriman no higher than about 6’2 3/8
Canson said on 22/Mar/18
@Viper: exactly. Rudolph is combine measured 1/2” above his normal height whereas 6’4 5/8 would be a 1 hour out of bed 6’4 1/8 afternoon meaning 1/8” shorter than I am. I would measure about 6’4.75 after an hour or more specifically 1mm (194.8cm) below but of course they only go to the 1/8” and round up so I would be 6046 at the combine as that’s an hour out of bed. And I’m 193.8cm (average) some days 1mm over others 1mm under so 6’4.25. But the norm is 3/8 or 1/2” difference
Andrea said on 22/Mar/18
Well, I am seeing them, Canson:
1. Click Here
2. Click Here
3. Click Here (although this last one is just a rough comparison between them, it clearly shows that Shawne looks easily taller than Vernon next to Ladainian, which certainly makes sense when you look at the first two pictures)
And I'm sorry, but saying that Vernon looks "physically taller" really makes no sense and honestly sounds a bit delusional...
"With Vincent Jackson I agree that he can look closer to 6'3 (not 6'2, though), but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears in that photo: Click Here "
viper said on 22/Mar/18
Uhhhh Andrea, the guy next to Merriman is 6-3.7 Aaron Maybin
Canson said on 22/Mar/18
@Andrea: I agree with some of what you said in the post below but the photo with Vernon Davis isn’t any worse than any of the others that you commented on. All of those have issues tbh Davis is leaning in at least one of the pics as well. The one where he is off to the right. And Davis physically looks taller than Merriman and in the ones where you concluded that he looks taller than Davis i can choose at least another where they are the same Merriman isn’t taller. And in Viper’s Davis edged him out. Merriman may be taller in one of the pics if that.

As for the pic with Petty yes I agree with what you said that it isn’t a good pic it’s terrible I agree too. However, it’s a matter of you and Viper seeing things in different ways because not all of the ones he posted are terrible pics. The one with Vincent Jackson is one of the better ones on this page actually and in this debate
viper said on 22/Mar/18
Sorry Andrea, not even Paul is taking the bait
viper said on 22/Mar/18
Mason Rudolph was measured at:

6-4.5
6-4.3
6-4.1
viper said on 21/Mar/18
Canson check this out. It has specific times for pro days. Click Here
viper said on 21/Mar/18
Obviously the pic is angled more toward Petty. Just thought it was interesting
viper said on 21/Mar/18
Vernon actually looks more 2 inches taller than Merriman
viper said on 21/Mar/18
6-3 Gorka with Trump. Click Here

6-2 Merriman with Trump.
Click Here

Big difference.
Canson said on 21/Mar/18
@Andrea: I’m not seeing 3 pics where Merriman is taller. In the one Viper posted below Davis clearly is. And we can say someone is leaning or we can’t see footwear but that’s also the case in at least one pic that you posted (minus footwear of course) but Davis is leaning. Although I don’t agree with all that Viper has said here I would have to agree with him that he looks physically taller than merriman. I would have a hard time saying that Merriman is taller than him. Maybe Davis really doesn’t edge him by all that much or they’re similar but Merriman really doesn’t strike me as taller.

As for Vincent Jackson he measured 6’4.6 at the combine and 6’4.3 at the Senior Bowl which points to an afternoon measurement which is how his height would really be gauged here on celebheights. Maybe he’s a hair less but prob not any higher. For the sake of argument I’ll keep him at 6’4.3 since that’s about right when you consider difference from 1 hour out of bed. See the first link. If you look at the others in this listing such as Deangelo Williams Marcedes Lewis (who we discussed earlier) and Nick Mangold they’re examples of people listed 3/8 or 1/2” less than their Combine measurements. Not to mention i posted the article previously on Boris’s page to Checker where I made reference to Nick Mangold and the others and it says there that the players had a rise and shine at 6am and got drug tested then measured right after which given the disparity between both means about 1 hour on their feet of that much. Some vary a bit less but most on this list are half inch or 3/8” taller at the combine then their senior bowl listing which makes me believe these are 100% accurate just that they’re normal heights not eye openers. Jackson has more than 1.5” on Merriman. That looks about a good 2” imho. That would have to be a 3cm-3.5 cm diff to make Merriman 6’3”. That difference is more than 3cm. That’s about a 2” difference. If anything I could easily believe the 6’2.4 for Merriman at that stage but he could be a bit less even. But because other pics say otherwise I’d call that around 6’2.4

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Andrea said on 21/Mar/18
Very well said, Paul. But again, it's a classic for viper's photos (and videos). Look at his other "evidence" down below and have fun...
The same goes for the last photo he posted with Shawne and Vernon. Now tell me what you can conclude from a photo like that. It's shot from a very bad angle, you can't even tell whether they're standing tall or not and there's even some tilt in Vernon's favour, yet, according to our Mr "I'm a pretty good judge of height" here, Vernon is "clearly taller than 6-2 Merriman". And that's even funnier, considering that I have already posted two good pictures of them together where it's really the way around: Shawne is clearly taller than Vernon: Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 20/Mar/18
@Viper: the pic with petty isn’t the greatest tbh. That’s hard to tell a diff
Paul NS (6ft0.5) said on 20/Mar/18
Viper, how can you conclude that Petty is taller from that photo? It's a very bad angle for height judgment and you can't see footwear. It's impossible to gauge imo. (Plus, Petty is almost certainly at the age where he'd be losing height.)
viper said on 20/Mar/18
And 6-2.6 Castillo clearly looks taller than Merriman, yet our resident troll here will say different
viper said on 20/Mar/18
6-3 Vernon Davis is clearly taller than 6-2 Merriman. Click Here
Andrea said on 20/Mar/18
To be honest, I don't think Vernon is standing any worse than Shawne next to Ladainian... We now have 3 different photos (although the last one is still just a rough comparison) where Shawne looks easily taller than Vernon, hence why I find it very hard to believe that it's the other way around like you say. Photos certainly tell otherwise (and it's not only one).
As for Vincent Jackson, I'm not sure how tall he "really" is... On draftscout he's down at 6'4 6/8: Click Here Shawne I think can look over 1 inch but not quite 2 inches shorter than him in that picture: Click Here So nearer 6'3 than 6'4, assuming that Vincent is somewhere between 6'4 and 6'5, but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears there.
Canson said on 20/Mar/18
@Andrea: I have to disagree there. It appears Vernon is standing worse to me but maybe I’m wrong. I still have Davis a little taller than Merriman that’s my opinion. And with Vincent Jackson he does in fact look that low. But doubt 6’2” flat around 6’2 3/8 or 6’2.5ish as that’s close to if not a full 2” difference in height. It really doesn’t look less than 2” and not as low as only 3cm. Remember you said that Kobe and Boris were 3cm difference that looks easily higher than that.
Andrea said on 20/Mar/18
Dear viper, Tom and Jared are just two of the many examples I could give. I could go on and on... Oh and let me rectify, you didn't just "guessed" them at 6'1 and 6'3, but you even said that 6'0 and 6'2 were quite possible too at one point. And you call yourself a "pretty good judge of height"? LMFAO
And do you want to talk about the fact that you even needed to use a countless number of "fake accounts" to comment on here in the last years (probably to cover your identity and fuc*ed up reputation on here)??? Come on, don't even get me started...
Andrea said on 20/Mar/18
Actually, Vernon isn't standing much different than Shawne next to Ladainian. Both of them aren't standing at their tallest, just like Ladainian, and, if anything, Shawne looks more disadvantaged than Vernon, considering that he looks further away from the camera compared to him! This means that if Shawne really looks only 6'2 like you say, then Vernon looks no more than 6'1...
As for the other people, he doesn't look as low a 6'2 (or even 6'2 4/8) either and I have already explained why in my last post:
"The only picture we have with Dexter Manley is this one Click Here and Dexter has a noticeable camera advantage over Shawne, given that the camera is behind is back. I dare anyone to tell any height difference in a picture like that! With Vincent Jackson I agree that he can look closer to 6'3 (not 6'2, though), but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears in that photo: Click Here "
viper said on 19/Mar/18
I thought Welling was 6-1 range and Jared 6-3. An inch off.

"BUT GUIZE THAT MAKES VIPER A TROLL!" Lol
Canson said on 19/Mar/18
@Andrea: I don’t think Viper would have any reason to lie about meeting Merriman in person. Sure he may have (as could anyone) underestimate or overestimate someone’s height but I don’t think that there’s a reason when he’s also pointed out others he’s met where they looked close to what he mentioned. Also because I’ve seen on Twitter where viper has mentioned he met him in person and his story is consistent with it. Not to mention that the game where he met him i believe I was at that game as well and I myself saw him (as I’ve also mentioned). Now I wasn’t close enough to him to gauge his height. But I do have a friend who has stood face to face and his story was closs with Viper’s that he’s no more than 6’2 maybe 6’2/6’3 at absolute best. And Viper was the one that brought the game up that it was at. I just mentioned on Boris’s page that I saw him when he was with the chargers but had come back for a MD game. So I can surely believe he met him. Now it’s still possible his estimate was not very good but to me 6’2” has as much merit as your belief that he’s 6’3.5ish actually would be more likely he’s 6’2” range than that. If he measured 6’4.3 he would likely be 6’3 7/8 or 6’4 at a low which he never really looks (maybe one or two pics if I had to guess). I do think he does look 6’3.5 though in others so I agree with you on that. But he doesn’t look as tall as Tom Brady does either not even close imho. I’ll be honest with you though I first assumed he was 6’4” based on his measurement and based on the fact that he looked tall from a distance. I didn’t know or suspect until Viper said that to me on a different page so I asked someone else
viper said on 19/Mar/18
Even with the camera angle 6-2 Richard Petty looks taller. Click Here
viper said on 19/Mar/18
LT looks as tall as 5-11 Vernon's brother with him
Canson said on 19/Mar/18
@Andrea: Vernon isn’t standing as straight as Merriman. As for Vincent Jackson, Merriman looks just how Viper pegged him 6’2” range. Jackson measured 6’4.3 at the senior bowl and 6’4.6 at the combine so he’s max 6’4 3/8. While maybe 6’2 is too low 6’2.4 could be right. I understand your point with hardwick but that’s just the pic. Merriman can look taller than some guys that height but shorter than others. Like with Jackson and Castillo that’s a clear difference as is the case with Merriman and Manley. He looks 6’2” range with both sets. He looks 6’2 with LT as well in the pic Viper posted. As he also does in the pic that I provided with Vince Young but that goes to support what you said before that his height is all over the place.
Canson said on 19/Mar/18
@Andrea: Vernon isn’t standing as straight as Merriman
Andrea said on 19/Mar/18
Well, if that's only a 4.5 inches difference, then the difference between Vernon and Ladainian is no more than 3.5 inches: Click Here
As for the other picture, if you "see where I'm coming from with Hardwick and Osgood", I don't see how you can say that Shawne looks 6'3 MAX next to Ladainian, considering that he looks no less than 6'3.5 next to Hardwick and Osgood. I mean, a person cannot look two different heights in the SAME PHOTO!
As for the other people you have mentioned, I disagree. He doesn't look as low as 6'2 or even 6'3 with them. The only picture we have with Dexter Manley is this one Click Here and Dexter has a noticeable camera advantage over Shawne, given that the camera is behind is back. I dare anyone to tell any height difference in a picture like that! With Vincent Jackson I agree that he can look closer to 6'3 (not 6'2, though), but again, I think the camera angle is favoring the right side there, so I'm sure the difference between them would be less than how it appears in that photo: Click Here As for Marcellus Willey, I don't think Shawne looks shorter than him: Click Here In that other picture that has been posted Shawne simply doesn't seem to be standing at his tallest and the camera position also seems to be favoring Marcellus's side a bit: Click Here
And I don't agree with your logic that since he may have looked nearer 6'2 than 6'4 in a very few occasions, then 6'2 range is as possible as 6'4. It simply doesn't work this way! A 6'2 range guy can maybe pull off looking 6'3-6'4 in 1 or 2 occasions, but not as often as Shawne does. There are way too many occasions where he looks noticeably taller than 6'2 and your "sometimes photos don't show the real difference" (which, btw, I totally agree with) cannot explain all those photos I have posted. That being said, as always, you're completely entitled to believe what you want, Canson...
As for viper, if you think he's a good poster, good for you. I certainly can't say the same (and I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one on here who thinks that way). To me, he's just a big joke and I cannot take him seriously. And, to be honest, I don't even believe him when he says that he met Shawne...
viper said on 18/Mar/18
Canson look how big the difference is with 6-3.5 Chris Berman. Yet our Stevie Wonder troll here says it's nothing
Canson said on 18/Mar/18
@Andrea: I can agree that some of the estimates may be a bit off that Viper provides but I don’t think that’s the case with Merriman nor do I think he’s trolling. I think with Merriman he did see him at that height legitimately. Maybe He didn’t stand quite his tallest and possible he’s 6’2 and change but I think Viper provides an honest estimate. It’s not much different from Rampage. Rampage is generous with many of his but I think they’re honest estimates on his part as well. I’ve learned from being here that you just have some people you can’t take seriously (Willes189 comes to mind along with a couple others) that will jump on the bandwagon and say Rampage or someone else is correct on a generous estimate because they themselves are prone to inflating which Willes is himself. But it’s a matter of two different perspectives. Rampage may see the listed heights here and likely assessed around those and it’s no secret Rob has a majority here overlisted. But I have mad respect for Rampage because he simply gives his estimate imho and doesn’t force it on someone. It’s no different with Viper he’s a respectable poster himself. Now In your case, it’s hard for anyone (despite the disagreements we’ve had) to call you a troll because you argue both ways. Some to where the person is listed the way Rob has him like Boris and others where you see them not as tall. You have some though like Goose (a previous poster) Willes and Chris (who only pops up once in a blue moon) and they only inflate people. Chris and Willes make no sense in their arguments either but then Goose only inflates everyone and claims he’s met people and that they’re taller than Rob has them listed always by 2” too. Now those are definitions of trolls there and I can’t say that about Viper
Canson said on 18/Mar/18
@Andrea: I have to disagree. With LT I can see max a 4.5” difference. If LT was in the same boat (morning) he likely would be 5’9.75 or 7/8 at a low which would make Merriman right around what he was measured at the Senior Bowl. One thing I will say is when Viper met him and said not over 6’2 he may not have been standing his tallest but to me at least he does not look as tall as Vernon Davis. I see where you’re coming from with Hardwick and Osgood but at the same time with Dexter Manley and with Vincent Jackson he looks 6’2” range for sure. This is one of those cases where either he really is only 6’2 range or where he doesn’t stand well in some pics. In terms of 6’3 he didn’t measure it but he can look it at times imho such as 184guy And Harry Sachs pointed out in the pic with Marcellus Wiley. But to be fair you could easily have two different pics with the same two people and the height difference could look completely different from one to the other which is something you have to take into account. Meaning just because he looks 6’3.5 or weak 6’4 in some pics, the ones where he looks 6’2 range are equally as credible imho since there is no perfect picture

@Viper: Davis measured that early morning correct. That probably would make him around 6’2.75-6’3 at a low. Maybe he was the case where like Rob mentioned that he could’ve been measured behind others and could’ve come down to 6’3.25 after maybe a couple hours and only gets to 6’3. Usually though, I give the person the benefit of the doubt (outside CH) if they are 6’2.75 at a low I think a 6’3 claim is fair. But I estimated 1-1.5” difference with him. Could be either end but it was at least an inch. Maybe 6’2 7/8 is more likely than 6’2.75 but he looked a much better 6’3 than others who claim that height themselves. I would say that he looked the same next to me as my 6’3 friend who measures 190.3ish in the evening. I would be hard pressed to see a difference with the two. In your case you’re an exception (rare) to the norm. A guy measuring 6’3 isn’t gonna just lose 1cm to 1/2”. They normally lose 3/4 or very least 1/2-3/4” per day. I myself have always lost (since I began measuring to that extent 3 years ago when I came here to CH) 3/4” maybe 2cm. A reliable measurement for me is 195.6-195.9 depending on sleep usually 195.7 lately and 193.7-.9 at night which makes me just a strong 6’4”. Similar to how Christian measures an inch taller and strong 6’5. Both of us have claimed 6’4 1/2 and 6’5 1/2 before because we measured close to that but in reality if we hit the 1/4” mark daily then prob 6’4 and 6’5 are enough. People don’t use 1/2” properly imho. I agree with what he said in that people above 1/4” (maybe 1/3-5/8) probably should claim 1/2”. I only stopped because I got tired of people asking why I even bother with the half (instead of claiming 6’4) or why I don’t just round up to 6’5” or people rounding me up on my behalf. I also have a friend Christians size 1” taller than me that claims 6’5 never the change (he only says 6’5 and change to us in his circle) along with two others 6’6 and 6’7.
Andrea said on 17/Mar/18
Sometimes it is easier to call other people trolls rather than to counter their arguments... In viper's case, it's even funnier, given that he himself is one of the biggest trolls ever in CelebHeights story. And Rob is right. Sometimes there is a fine line between a genuine estimate or a trolling attempt, but it is certainly hard to take seriously a guy who thinks that a 6'2-6'3 Jared Padalecki or a 6'-6'1 Tom Welling are even remotely possible. That alone is certainly enough for me to consider him nothing else than a troll.
Getting back to Shawne, Canson, you keep disregarding the fact that Shawne looks comfortably taller than 6'3.5 measured Nick Hardwick in the same photo (and no more than an inch shorter than 6'4 7/8 measured Kassim Osgood). Let's say for a moment that you're right and that Shawne really looks no more than 6'3 next to Ladainian... How do you explain him looking at least, again to be as conservative as possible, half an inch taller than Nick? If Shawne really was 6'3 flat (that, again, is probably the least likely mark, given his alleged or non-alleged 6'2 4/8 and 6'4 3/8 measurements), that would make Nick no more than 6'2.5, which is certainly a bit hard to believe, considering that we know he was measured at 6'3.5 at one point (and that's not an out of bed measurement). I don't know him, but based on that, I would say that at the very worst he'd drop to around 6'3 flat, which would still put Shawne at no less than 6'3.5!
As for the other picture of Shawne and Ladainian, I can see about 5 inches between them, but again Ladainian is standing closer to the camera than Shawne. Actually, Ladainian's position in that photo is not much different than his position in Vernon's photo and Shawne looks easily taller than how Vernon does next to him, which is not a surprising, considering that that's exactly how he looks in both the pictures I have posted: easily taller than Vernon...
Canson said on 17/Mar/18
@Rob: the Chris guy surely is. Comes on every few months and inflates everyone especially basketball players then even claimed to meet Allen Iverson and put him (consistent with his pattern) at 6’1 barefoot. A guy who claims to be 6’5” wouldn’t mistake a 5’10-5’11 guy (like his coach Larry Brown said) with someone who is 6’1”. Not to mention AI measured 5’11.25 at the pre draft (which looks a bit high imho). I could see a morning measurement like they do about an hour out at 5’11 or maybe 5’11 1/8 which is probably what got rounded up to 5’11.25 since the NBA doesn’t do 1/8” increments and him being 5’10 5/8 maybe at a normal low and slightly less after a 48 minute basketball game (really more like a couple hours of standing).

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