How tall is Shawne Merriman - Page 4

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6ft 2.67in (189.7cm)
Canson said on 14/Nov/18
@Rising: well said! Yep I’ve seen you do the same. This was also a good gauge due to proximity and both being barefoot. As for the difference, I actually see 4” for most of the video but maybe for a hot second 3.5”. Id say based on this that Merriman could’ve actually been 6’2 3/8” for the combine as opposed to 6’4 3/8. As Viper mentioned he measured 6’2.4 at the Pro Day. All that said, it would put him around 6’2 perhaps even as low as Viper saw him (6’1.75) if Bennett dips from 6’6.1 to 6’5 5/8 or 3/4 like he would from the combine. That’s based on the difference between them. Suffice to say based on this, Viper actually proved you right when you said earlier that sometimes the unpopular vote is the one that wins. Even at a solid 6’2” that’s still closer to what he guessed vs anyone else
viper said on 14/Nov/18
Rob can you downgrade Merriman to 6-2.5 now. It's obvious
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Viper: if that’s accurate it shows that Barkley and Khodjoe aren’t as tall as they’re listed here which I suspected all along. I had Barkley 6’4.5 peak but looks 6’4/6’4.5 there tops and Boris next to them could barely look 6’3 or max 6’3
Rising - 174 cm said on 13/Nov/18
@Canson: I know what you mean. Sometimes I'll ask others opinions before stating my own when I post something significant. @viper: These are screenshots of the main part I based my opinion on: Click Here Conservatively, I wouldn't argue with the 3.5" Christian mentioned or the 3.5"-4" range Canson said either, but in the first and 3rd stills in particular, I see more 4" than 3.5" honestly.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Nov/18
@Canson

I said 3.5" but I was being pretty generous. The difference looks closer to 4" like Rising and Viper said.
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Rising: I agree on Melo and Bosh. I wouldn’t go under 6’6 or 6’10” for either. I think with Melo that Merriman looks around 6’2”. But with the video, you and Christian guessed it just how Viper and I did. I wanted two other sets of eyes because I felt that this was by far the best indicator (credit to Viper for posting it) since Merriman is barefoot here (as is Bennett)
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Rising: i dont rule out 6’2 now honestly

The 6065 could be a measurement in cleats previously. That does about line up with how he would measure barefoot at his low
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Rising: i dont rule out 6’2 now honestly
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
I agree with all three of you. He does look 3.5 and 4 at times. It surely isn’t less and this tells me that he’s not over 6’2 range. @Christian: I wonder if Bennett hits 6’5 5/8 from his combine height.
viper said on 13/Nov/18
During the parts I could estimate, I would have guessed Merriman about 4" shorter, but I could easily be wrong.

No you are definitely right.
viper said on 13/Nov/18
That's as good as it gets. Both are barefoot
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Nov/18
@Canson

I see an easy 3.5" difference between Merriman and Bennett in that clip. If Bennett's 6'5.75", that makes Merriman look max 6'2.25"
viper said on 12/Nov/18
Look at the 2:09 mark
viper said on 12/Nov/18
Bennet is the same height as Anthony Joshua, and they both look the same as The Rock did with Anthony Joshua in the ring.
Rising - 174 cm said on 12/Nov/18
@Canson: Merriman looks quite a bit shorter in that video. During the parts I could estimate, I would have guessed Merriman about 4" shorter, but I could easily be wrong. I remember the Kemp photo and Merriman with his hat looked to reach Kemp's eyes, but Kemp looked to be leaning more. Kemp was supposed to have measured 6'8.75" pre-draft. As for Melo, I think since you saw him a solid 6'6" in person, it's more likely he was simply measured when he was up for a long enough time to be closer to his low than high and was full grown by 19. Bosh's 6'10.25" also looks pretty believable from that class, imo.
viper said on 12/Nov/18
Canson I really doubt he's has high as 6-2.5

But he should be downgraded to at least that
viper said on 12/Nov/18
Lol that video ends any doubt that he's nowhere near 6-3 or 6-4

Look at the 3:02 mark right when it cuts to another frame. Easy 4 inch difference and Bennet is under 6-6.

Merriman looks what I saw him in person.
viper said on 12/Nov/18
The 6065 was just put there when he was in college. It doesn't mean anything

Any college player you see on draftscout is not a real measurement
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Viper: check out Bennett’s combine listing. What does the note about 6065 before the combine mean? Just curious. I wonder if that’s a Pro Day or Senior Bowl listing but the combine is usually held early morning so surprised he has a higher measurment elsewhere. I would’ve thought he would measure out around 6’5.75 or 6’5 5/8 if he measured that at the combine

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@Rising and Christian: how much height difference do you see in the video here? This is good when both are hitting the bag because they close to each other and both are standing barefoot.

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Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Viper: I’ve almost never seen where it’s a 2” difference between Russ and harden. It usually looks about 1-1.5” I easily buy 6’2/6’2.25 for Russ and 6’3/6’3.5 for Harden

@Rising: I agree with what you said! I would like to see Gay with Merriman as well. I think Viper posted one of Merriman and Shawn Kemp though and Kemp is said to be something like 6’8.5.
viper said on 11/Nov/18
Chris Long might only be 6-2
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Christian: for Wade, it wouldn’t surprise me if he measured in shoes honestly and it was moved over. Shane alluded to that as well. The measurements from that year appear afternoon imho. Keith Bogans measured 6’4.5 in 2002 and 6’4.25 in 03. Melo was 6’6.25 but I will say in Melo’s case it’s not entirely impossible for him to have been a morning measurement and have grown a small fraction since the draft since he was 18. He looks a very legit 6’6”. Maybe strong. Wade just looks small imho like other 6’2.5-6’3 guards look in the league
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Christian: he has said both about Rampage before. He said “you love making people taller” as well and even said to me that I “love making people shorter”. I respect him myself but when you see the inconsistencies with his comments it doesn’t help And that isn’t just him that’s a lot of the posters here who claim that Barkley’s measurement didn’t take place. Common sense would say the NBA isn’t gonna make a player shorter. They just won’t do that. That’s a very lazy silly cop out. Especially when someone trusts what Conan says out of his mouth relative to his own height but not Barkley. So we’re going to make Barkley taller just to make Conan the height he claims is what I gather here when in reality it’s known that many men lie about their height. Barkley has even gone on to say before that he’s 6’5” so it isn’t him doing that because he did measure 6’4 5/8. Wouldn’t surprise me if he were just 6’4.5 peak barefoot
viper said on 11/Nov/18
6-6 Martellus Bennet towering over 6-2 Merriman. Click Here
viper said on 11/Nov/18
Merriman needs to be downgraded to 6-2.5 badly.

Hell, 6-1 linebacker Samson Ebukam physically looks taller than Merriman ever did on the football field.
viper said on 11/Nov/18
I wonder If Merriman wears these first pair of shoes. I've seen him wear similar shoes. They give over 2 inches in height. Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Nov/18
@Canson: I meant I should have known my reply would bring up the Barkley debate. As for Danimal, I've disagreed over his speculating over posters' psychology, including my own so I get where Christian is coming from with that, but after seeing him post here for almost a decade now, I think he's a good guy overall. Back to Merriman, the comparisons to basketball players have been some of the most interesting, but I'd really like to see a good pic or video of Shawne and Rudy Gay after Gay referred to him as 6'2".
viper said on 11/Nov/18
I saw a clip the other night of Harden talking to Russell Westbrook. Harden looked about 2 inches taller
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
I do agree. Probably around 4-4.5”
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Rising: you didn’t say anything wrong. Like you’ve said earlier with Danimal, they’re opinions. And I respect his just like Yours and Viper’s
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Nov/18
@Canson

I don't know if I can say the same about Danimal. Once he falsely accused me of wanting Uli Latukefu to be shorter than me, just because I estimated him at 6'4"-6'4.5". He also implied that Rampage was a downgrader (which is strange because many of Rampage's guesses tend to be higher than Rob's).
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Nov/18
@Canson

I think the NBA gives an extra 1/4" boost for some players. There are some who look a full inch shorter than what they supposedly measured, like Wade for example. He was maybe measured 6'3.5" in the morning but was given a 1/4" boost to 6'3.75". That's just my theory though.
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Nov/18
@Canson: I'll reply to anything on Barkley's height on his page, you know what I think of the 6'4 5/8" figure and any alleged or assumed measurements so I don't need to repeat it here. I don't think Conan saying "I'm not" had anything to do with height either. I think he got cut off from finishing his thought, which seemed to me like it was going to be to the effect that he wasn't handsome and an impressive figure like Selleck despite being tall. I agree with you that Conan is not a full 6'4" barefoot. Obviously, most of the things we disagree on concern Barkley or something similar and I don't personally see the parallels between Conan and Barkley, but I agree that taking Conan's claim at face value doesn't make much sense to me regardless. I won't speak for Danimal, but from what I gather, he seems to think most men over a certain height don't lie to make themselves taller, but would only lie to make themselves shorter. I don't agree with that myself, but I think that's his reasoning from what I've read him say on Tim Robbins and others. But this all started because I disagreed with viper's word choice so it's sort of semantics and I'll say that's viper's opinion and he can say it's "safe to say" if he wants. I said why I disagree, but I'll leave it at that. The important thing is that he's going to think Barkley is roughly the height you think he is for any comparison to Merriman so like I said, it doesn't much matter. I probably shouldn't have said anything so my bad.

Back to Magic and Merriman, I'll look into him a bit more with some of his Showtime era teammates, but I agree that's probably more 4", 4.5" based on what Rob said about Magic's eye level concerning Boris.
Canson said on 10/Nov/18
@Christian: I almost wonder if Chane already did slouch somewhat. But if he didn’t and that’s just a low or an extreme low, then it shows that the NBA measurements are not only early morning but are likely inflated a bit. It’s possible that Chane isn’t even at an extreme low but a normal low instead as it occurred around 1pm.
Canson said on 10/Nov/18
@Rising: my opinion on Magic and Merriman is right in the middle. I have Magic at 6’7” at least today. I doubt he was ever 6’7.5. If we see a guy like Kurt Rambis with him, Magic was shorter than him (clearly). I would say a peak Magic May have been 6’7.25 (201) but no higher. And 6’7 wouldn’t surprise me either. May be as low as 6’6.75 today as some people have pointed out but I’ll leave him at 6’7”. I can see it being 4 maybe 4.5. Merriman at a solid 6’2 seems a bit low. 6’2.5 is about how he looks with Barkley and with Magic.
Canson said on 10/Nov/18
@Rising: I like Danimal as a poster as well and respect him. But my reasoning with everyone and not just him, is that if you are going to accept Conan’s claims is that they are just that, claims. People claim Barkley downplays his height which is BS. Yes his measurements are closer to 6’5 than 6’4 but a guy measuring 6’4 5/8 could easily measure 6’4 1/2 or 3/8 as well if that wasn’t his low. Even at 6’4 1/2; he could round down to 6’4. I do agree with you that he’s not 6’4 flat. I have him precisely around the mark 6’4 1/2 maybe even 6’4 5/8 at his peak.

Conan claimed 6’4 1/2 and Danimal believes that is his height at his peak. Conan has claimed 6’4 more often than not and said 6’4 1/2 then said 6’4/6’4 1/2. He would measure 6’4-6’4 1/2 in shoes and 6’3-6’3 1/2 barefoot. Then said I’m about 6’4 but I’m not with Selleck. I think the latter is most accurate that he would measure almost 6’4 (at whichever point he went to the doctor which was likely earlier in the day). And to digress, Barkley measured 6’4 5/8 at the Olympics yet people are saying that is made up. It’s a bit ludicrous for the NBA to intentionally make up a measurement for him especially one that is very close to what he has claimed (6’4 1/2, 6’4 3/4) and what he “allegedly” measured 6’4 7/8. 5/8 is a very specific figure and it lines up to what most NBA players say he is and most others who have met him. So to me it’s because there are a lot of people here that don’t want to believe he’s not a tall as they think. Difference is that Barkley has at least two measurements here 6’4 5/8 and 7/8 on record whereas Conan has zero. And the “I don’t think that the 6’4 5/8 took place” is a lazy cop out. Several people have said that. One guy years back in Barkley’s forum said “if we keep Barkley at 197cm we don’t have to downgrade anyone”. I don’t know who it was now as that was a few months before my time. That type of statement is a very illogical one and pretty much shows that people think making a celeb taller than they are is respectful where as downgrading them isn’t. And That’s an excuse honestly just because Barkley makes others look shorter than their claims. I understand he can but That’s also a specific figure that he measured. If they were gonna make it up they would’ve just said he was 6’4 or 6’4 1/2 maybe. And if we take into account that most NBA players are listed about half inch taller than they would measure in the afternoon, Barkley is right in line with them as I wouldn’t argue him measuring a full 6’5 in the first hour or two of waking and him dipping to 6’4 5/8 or 1/2. That’s in line with James Harden and Steph Curry (6’3 and change and 6’1 and Change at lows).my point is that we can’t “simply” ignore the measurements for Barkley or sweep them under the rug or make other bs excuses such as the ones that some of the posters you mention make about them being made up and then turn around say that the Rock is 6’3 like one of them often says. One of which took a heavily favored pic of the Rock with another athlete and tried to use that as evidence. Then another pic of the same athlete and Rock was posted and there was “a problem with that pic” although everyone was in agreement that that pic was the best of them but because The Rock looked at best 6’2” it wasn’t good. Everyone acknowledged the bad angle in the pic that poster posted. And that was not Danimal because like you said he believes the Rock is 6’2”. It was one of the ones you mentioned though. Barkley and Tim Robbins are two of the only celebs I don’t agree with Danimal on. He also claims robbins was 6’6/6’7 when he claimed 6’4.5 and 6’5. But I agree with most of his estimates actually to be fair.

So my point is that people can’t accept that someone who was actually measured is not what he measured, then why are we accepting that Conan is 6’4” or over when he was never measured? Just because he claimed it? Especially when 6’3.5 Selleck edged him even if it included a footwear advantage, along with Hasselhoff, Neeson, Lithgow. Even Klitschko at 6’5 1/4 had a good 2” on him. Common denominator is that Conan inflated all of them except Hasselhoff and Lithgow. He even asked Wlad if he were 6’6/6’7 when he was on. I’m in agreement with you on Selleck as I mentioned before and your estimate for Conan is a lot more reasonable. 6’3 1/2 is very reasonable (although I would shoot for 6’3.25). Conan has long hair though so it makes it tricky at times. Not sure if you saw Mickey mention he’s met him (Mickey is from Boston). Now we can’t ever be certain but Mickey seems honest and he is almost right on point when he said that he and Conan are almost exactly the same height. He initially said he couldn’t see him below 191 or above 192. Mickey said he’s 6’3.25 at his low to 6’3 3/8 some days so that said Conan could be a bit less or even a bit more. 6’3 flat or 6’3 1/8 is possible just as 6’3.5 maybe 6’3 5/8 is because if one person is 6’3.25 or 6’3 3/8 at a low then 1/4” isn’t as noticeable. Now I go with 6’3.25 because of how he looks with Barkley Kobe and with Neeson. Neeson had 2cm on Conan when he met him. I would leave some room and say Rob may have underlisted Neeson for his peak by a hair. Maybe 6’4 1/8 or 1/4 although I still think 193-193.5 for him. That puts Conan around Mickey’s height
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Nov/18
@Canson: I'm guessing you're referring to Danimal? There's plenty of things I don't agree with him on, including Conan, but he's been a regular poster for years so his opinion is as valid as anyone's. I wouldn't say it's exactly the same either since Barkley changes his height claim like most people change their socks while Conan has only claimed the 6'4" and 6'4.5" as far as I know. But Conan is apparently not the only reason Danimal thinks Barkley is 6'5.5"-6'6". He recently gave his reasoning on 10/Oct/18 on Rock's page and didn't mention Conan. My point isn't whether all of our reasoning is sound or not. Just that opinion is far too divided on Barkley to say there's a consensus.

Back to Merriman, how tall is he with Magic? Click Here Is that 5" or just 4"? And does Magic have a camera advantage and is one or the other losing more height with posture?
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Nov/18
@Canson

Chane should've slouched a bit for his measurement so he could've passed under the limit.
Canson said on 9/Nov/18
@Rising: I also see that some of the posters below (1 in particular) takes and uses Conan’s claim of 6’4-6’4 1/2 as evidence that he is that height when that’s his shoe height. 191-192 is arguable for Conan as a barefoot height. By deduction he has Barkley at 6’5 1/2 which is his shoe height. That is inconsistent that he takes one’s claims but not the other’s claim.

As for Merriman, I would agree on however and have said he looks 6’2 1/2 vs a flat 6’2 or shorter
Canson said on 8/Nov/18
@Viper: this is an example of a wide variance between a pre draft (NBA). Chane Behanan. His NBA pre draft measurement is 6’6” while his measurement at the PBA (which has a height ceiling) was 6’5 1/16 which is close to an inch. While I think the obvious that the NBA measurement likely isn’t 100% accurate, I also see him possibly going for an extreme low just to make it there

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viper said on 8/Nov/18
They are talking about how short Christian Mccafrey is, yet he measured at 5-11.
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Nov/18
Short video of staredown with 5'11.5" Rampage: Click Here Even with Shawne tilting his head down(though the camera is on his side), I don't see anywhere near 4.5", but here's Rampage with Chuck Liddell: Click Here Click Here Shawne looks 6'2.5" with Rampage, but can look 6'4" with Liddell or at least 6'3"+. I still can't make complete sense of that. The other interesting thing is Shawne telling the nurse he thought he was 6'5" when he measured 6'4.5" when that should come as no surprise if he measured 1/8" below that at the combine or a very pleasant surprise if he was 6'2" range at the combine like when Van Damme was almost literally jumping for joy after his mother measured him 177 cm. It's kind of weird since you'd think he'd remember his combine measurement one way or the other.

For the purposes of comparing, I'd agree 6'4.75"-6'5" range is fair as middle ground for Barkley or Rob's 6'4.9" listing. 2.5" is possible since it's barely different than 2.25" or whatever I said before. If it were only me that suspected Barkley was taller then I'd say "safe to say" might be a fair way to put it, but with other regulars like Vegas, JT and Danimal along with the average guess, safe to say isn't the right way to put it, but I digress.
Canson said on 8/Nov/18
@Viper: in his prime or near it, he looked close with Chick Hearn and could pull off 6’3 next to Magic at times. Other times he does look 6’2
viper said on 7/Nov/18
West is listed at 6-2. He doesn't look taller than that.
Canson said on 6/Nov/18
@Viper: I’ve heard West is said to be 6’3” as well. Maybe he’s 6’2 1/2
Canson said on 6/Nov/18
@Viper: makes sense given you’ve seen other guys have discrepancies in their measurements such as Kearse. May be a real 6’6.5 guy as well like you mentioned about Osweiler. Does osweiler have any other measurements that you’ve seen?
viper said on 6/Nov/18
6-2 Jerry West claims 6-4.5.
6-2 Rock claims 6-5.

Would they pull that same measuring stunt, lol
viper said on 5/Nov/18
Hughes would look 6-1-6-2 In person
viper said on 5/Nov/18
Jerry Hughes measured 6-2.1 and he's actually a 6-1 1/2 guy
viper said on 5/Nov/18
The 6-7.1 could be legit, since he measured 6-6 5/8 I believe.

So he's a 6-6 1/2 guy rounded down
viper said on 5/Nov/18
If we go by Rob's own Barkley listing at 6-4.75, Merriman looks 6-2.25.

6-2 3/8 Max.
viper said on 5/Nov/18
That's 2.5 inches at least with Merriman and Barkley.

That picture just shows Merriman isn't close to 6-4.

We can safely say Barkley is between
6-4.5 and 6-5.
viper said on 5/Nov/18
Glennon measured 6-6 5/8 another time I think.

Osweiler is really a 6-6 1/2 guy
Canson said on 5/Nov/18
@Viper: I noticed with Glennon that he supposedly measured 6071 and is listed at 6’6 then Paxton Lynch measured 6065 and is listed at 6’7” in the NFL.
Canson said on 4/Nov/18
@Viper: they say Osweiler is 6’8 at times because he was listed at that in college. He is listed at 6’7” today in the programs but he did measure practically 6’7”. 6’6 7/8 is 6’7” for all intents and purposes. Of course on this site we know that height varies but for the NFL it’s just another measurement and is what they go by maybe outside of the organizations themselves. I also think a lot of that has to do with him being very tall for a QB. They play off that
Canson said on 4/Nov/18
@Rising: Merriman can look different heights. There are times when he looks 6’4 as well. It’s possible Viper underestimated him by a tad but I would say maybe by an inch. I agree 6’2.5. And if Viper didn’t see footwear or Merriman had bad posture then not sure
Canson said on 4/Nov/18
@Viper: May very well be a fallacy
viper said on 3/Nov/18
I doubt it. My 71 year old 6-0 dad hasn't lost any height. My 5-8 80 year old Uncle hasn't lost any height.
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Nov/18
Came across the Barkley pic by accident after failing when I actually tried to search for it lol: Click Here Imo, there's more than a 2" difference. I'd say around 5.5 cm or 2.25" minimum assuming Barkley has a 10" head. It's always possible one guy is being pushed down with the arm around shoulder, but it doesn't really look like that to me and Barkley's posture seems casual. I don't see the camera favoring Barkley either and their heads actually look close in size, which seems accurate since Shawne looks to have a big head himself. Of course, Barkley's height is almost as contested as Shawne's, but it's still interesting.
viper said on 2/Nov/18
Ronald Blair is listed at 6-4, yet measured at 6-2.1
viper said on 2/Nov/18
Notre Dame has been listing their players at their real heights which is strange the last few years. And NC State with a few.
viper said on 2/Nov/18
Jerry Hughes was measured 6-1.6 at the combine and 6-2.1 at his pro day.

He's a 6-1 1/2 guy.
viper said on 2/Nov/18
I hate how they call Osweiler 6-8 when he's not even 6-7.

Yeah, I don't know If the 6-7.1 is legit for Glennon.
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Nov/18
I looked into Shawne a little on my own and a couple of comparisons stand out. First, with 6'0.75" listed Chuck Liddell at 2 events: Click Here Click Here First pic he looks about solid 6'3" to me with maybe a little worse posture, but possible camera advantage, but in the second pic he looks closer to 6'4", albeit with better posture. Don't know if there's a camera advantage there. But then there's this with Derek Fisher: Click Here I figure Fisher is around 6'0" next to Kobe and Obama and in that case, I don't see Shawne over 6'2.5" next to him. It's possible there's something as far as posture or camera, but again, I don't know. As for Liddell, I think he has to be close to his listing seeing him with 5'10" Mike Tyson: Click Here He looks a couple of inches taller, but there's no doubt he's losing height from posture and probably camera. Curious what everyone thinks of both comparisons since Shawne does look 6'3"-6'4" range with Chuck, but 6'2" range with Fisher.

@viper: You saw Shawne on the pavement circle around the stadium? I'm not familiar with the stadium since the only sports event I've been to in Maryland was an Oriole game in 1994, but did you notice how level the ground seemed?
Canson said on 2/Nov/18
Happens to the best of us Viper. I’m sure you and I will see some degree of it in the next 7-10. I have likely already lost a mm or two.
viper said on 1/Nov/18
6-0 Joey Connors of UCF was listed at
6-4 in high school
Canson said on 1/Nov/18
@Viper: I’d say if he’s not the full mark he may dip to something like 6’5 7/8 since he was measured earlier in the day. Which still constitutes 6’6”. He does look 6’6 rather often however
viper said on 1/Nov/18
My eye doctor has shrunk from 6-3 to 6-2 and it is so noticeable
viper said on 1/Nov/18
Joe Flacco looks at least 6-6
viper said on 1/Nov/18
I wonder If Mike Vick is really 6-0
viper said on 1/Nov/18
6-1 Rashard Robinson looks 6-3 with 6-0 Patrick Peterson. Click Here
Canson said on 31/Oct/18
@Viper: I remember Booger McFarland said he’s 6’0” during the game he broke the record against the Redskins a few weeks ago and that Drew Brees wasn’t any more than 5’10”. Now that could be a bit of a stretch as Brees measured 5’11 7/8 as well as 6’0.25. Maybe 5’11 is a worst case if he were wearing some lifts in his socks etc. I’ve also heard Booger is really 5’11” in an article about when he was in college and he admitted that to a reporter despite being listed 6’1”. Booger measured 6’0 1/2 at the combine
viper said on 30/Oct/18
Here's a 6-3 listing. Click Here
viper said on 30/Oct/18
Jayron was listed at 6-3 on a couple of sites when he was at Clemson
Canson said on 29/Oct/18
@Viper: that’s odd. His pre draft is 6040 yet they list him 6’3.2 there. That just means that combines aren’t as reliable as people thing
viper said on 29/Oct/18
I'll tell you a measured height that really surprised me is Art Monk at 6-2.

Thought he was 6-3 minimum for sure.

Monk could be a guy for Rob to add.
Canson said on 29/Oct/18
@Viper: that’s not surprising because most people inflate other athletes to make them sound more impressive
viper said on 28/Oct/18
Couchscout has Jayron Kearse's real height of 6-3.2
viper said on 28/Oct/18
6-2 Reggie Gilbert looks way taller than Merriman physically on the football field
viper said on 25/Oct/18
Guy on MSU's board told me Brandon Graham is a solid 6-2, and that he's
6-1.

Graham was measured at 6-0.6
viper said on 25/Oct/18
Brennan Scarlett looks 6-2 and he's listed at 6-5
Canson said on 24/Oct/18
@CM: agreed
Canson said on 24/Oct/18
@Rising: you make excellent points. My main reason for challenging Eli’s measurement is based on how he looks next to Ben. Ben looks taller yet only 1/8” difference exists. I could buy Eli as high as 194cm potentially because the difference with Peyton may appear more than it is at times. It may only be around 2cm
viper said on 24/Oct/18
Yeah I know who Russ Par is
Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Oct/18
Canson: I guess that's possible since many think Eli is more a solid 6'4" than weak 6'5" and he was always shorter than Peyton. It's also possible the 6'4.75" was an hour after waking. Though Eli did have at least 3" on Alex Rodriguez, albeit with thicker sneakers. But Eli being shorter would prove my point even more about how unusual it would be to measure 6'4"+ and be listed 6'3" throughout your college career.
CM said on 23/Oct/18
He really does need a downgrade, he isn't close to 6'4...
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 21/Oct/18
Looks around 6'2"-6'3" with 5'2" listed Rey Mysterio Click Here
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 21/Oct/18
@Canson

Also Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Hernandez.
Canson said on 21/Oct/18
@Rising: it could’ve been an error with Eli Manning. Ben Roethlisberger measured 6’4 7/8 at the same combine and looks taller.
Canson said on 20/Oct/18
@Viper: are you familiar with Russ Parr? How tall would you say he is? I know back in the day he claimed 6’3” on his show
Canson said on 19/Oct/18
@Viper: I’m beginning to question the validity of combines for some. I noticed that listing you sent out for the Redskins where Lavar measures 6’3 and Darnerian McCants measured 6’4. They are 6’2.2 and 6’3 on their listings you sent out and the latter was listed 6’3” his entire career as opposed to 6’4”.
Rising - 174 cm said on 19/Oct/18
@Canson: All I can say is I always thought Wiley looked believable at a legit 6'4" so I bought the measurement when I saw it, but I don't know the time of day and I haven't actually compared his height to any measured guys so I don't know if he drops under it or not. I tend to agree Wiley is taller viewing both pics, but the difference was much smaller in the one Andrea posted and I conceded I can't say with any certainty whether the posture difference is as great as the remaining height difference and footwear difference in that pic. Now in the other pic with Jackson, Merriman looks noticeably shorter than Wiley and doesn't look a believable 6'4" with Jackson while Wiley does, but I did acknowledge from the start that Merriman was at the disadvantage there. The question is how much disadvantage there. For whatever reason, it's often with basketball players that Merriman can really look shorter.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 18/Oct/18
@viper

Khaled's standing closer to the camera, but Merrimam doesn't seem to be over 6'1" in that pic, lol.
Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Oct/18
@Andrea: From what I've seen of Armie, I'd have to agree he's more like 6'4", especially since he does have better posture than many men that height. And you make a good point about those guys measured 6'2"-6'3" at the combine. Certainly, it's difficult to see how Merriman would be only 6'2.5" with those guys as he can pull off 6'4" and I'd also acknowledge that it's particularly difficult with Crews since footwear is seen there. I respect that you acknowledge he can look 6'2"-6'3" and that actual differences aren't always what they seem in photos. With that said, there's enough anecdotal and even visual evidence for me to not rule out 6'2.5" myself until I can explain why he can look that or still look into this guy some more. Rob mentioned thinking he drops quite a bit of height at times and I consider that a possibility, but I'm not sure whether his posture is all that bad yet a lot of the time such as with a presumably 6'0" or so Derek Fisher. The 6'3" college listings are interesting too in that they seem to be official and a constant on the 2002-2005 Maryland rosters even while his weight changed from 218 to 246 to 258 etc. Some NFL players do round down as much as Eli Manning's 6'4.75" combine height being rounded down to 6'4" by the Giants, but I'd think a player still trying to be in the NFL would be more reluctant to be listed shorter. As soon as I'm a bit more sure of this guy, I'll probably be able to narrow him down some more, but I won't rule out your position either. I just made the Seagal comment because Rob himself said he doubted there was much difference. That reminds me, Aaron Hernandez should really have a page here, imo.

Btw, does anyone still have the Barkley photo(s)? I saw them together years ago and specifically remember looking up Merriman's height to see what he was, but saw the 6'2"+ and the 6'4"+ and couldn't make sense of that so didn't look into it further until Shwane got a page here. I was looking at it more to try to judge Barkley's height back then so I don't remember the difference.
viper said on 18/Oct/18
Draftscout has Richard Seymour at 6-6.2 which is wrong.

He was measured at 6-5.2 and 6-5.4
viper said on 18/Oct/18
Merriman with 5-6.5 DJ Khaled. Click Here
Canson said on 17/Oct/18
@Viper: and Vernon is standing poorly with him as he did with Merriman In a couple pics. Shows you he has bad posture on occasion
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Oct/18
@Canson

I'd doubt it. The top of his head reaches to his eyebrow level. But CM seems to have looser posture than Shawne so you might not be off.
viper said on 15/Oct/18
Like I said, Merriman was listed at 6-4 in high school. He goes to Maryland and is listed at 6-3.

He didn't grow. He's simply not 6-4. Still can't believe he hasn't been downgraded
viper said on 15/Oct/18
Cassius Marsh was supposedly measured at 6-4, yet he was listed at 6-2 in high school. Click Here
viper said on 15/Oct/18
I was surprised to see Ken Griffey listed at 6-2. He was always listed at 6-3.
viper said on 15/Oct/18
Vernon Davis with a REAL 6-4 guy Kenny Anunike. Click Here
Canson said on 15/Oct/18
@Viper: the problem is that everyone believes pre drafts. You even pointed out once a 6’3 listed guy being measured at 6’5 (supposedly). Probably an error but still. They make a lot. Chris Cooley is at most 6’3” and was measured 6’3.5. Wouldn’t surprise me if Cooley were actually 6’2.75
Canson said on 15/Oct/18
@Christian: that could even just be 3” with CM.

@Viper: if Calhoun’s measurement was valid then he would likely be 6’4 flat or 6’3 7/8 at a low. I would say Merriman looks about his Pro Day measurement with him (6’2.4). That could be 6’2.5 or 6’2 3/8.
viper said on 15/Oct/18
Laron Profit looked 6-4. He was listed at 6-4 during the draft.

I'm pretty accurate. I'm not going to be off by no more than an inch If I'm wrong.
viper said on 15/Oct/18
I thought Shannon Sharpe was 6-2 and I was off by half an inch at his tallest technically. So off by .5-.75.

He's the only guy I've been off of.

Rickey Jackson looked 6-1, he was measured at 6-1.

Lin Dawson looked 6-3 minimum, he's listed at 6-3.

Nick Faldo I've seen up close and looked his 6-3 listing.

Scott Van Pelt looked 6-6. What he claims.

Phil Ford looks 5-11 Max up close. He was measured at 5-11 3/4 early in his NBA career.
viper said on 15/Oct/18
Interesting how baseball downgraded Dontrelle Willis from 6-4 to his real
6-2 height
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Oct/18
Looks 6'2.75" with 5'11.25" (IMO) CM Punk. Click Here
viper said on 14/Oct/18
Canson, If Calhoun dips under 6-4 even a little Merriman is MAX 6-2 with him
viper said on 14/Oct/18
6-4 for Merriman is crazy.

If he looked a solid 6-2 I could maybe open the door to him being 6-3, but he didn't even look that tall.

He's shorter than 6-3
Canson said on 14/Oct/18
@Viper: wish there were better pics of Merriman with Jared Gaither or Vernon Davis. Davis looked about his listed height 6’3” and Gaither Looks 6’8” (combine shows 6’8 5/8 but morning height)
viper said on 14/Oct/18
Merriman has never looked the same height as 6-3 Vernon, much less taller
viper said on 13/Oct/18
Merriman looks 6-6 If you believe Wilson's 6-1 listing lol
viper said on 13/Oct/18
How do some of these other 6-2 guys like Tyus Bowser and Terence Garvin look 6-4-6-5.

Terence made Sinbad look 5-11 on a perfectly flat looking conference room floor.
viper said on 13/Oct/18
7-1 listed Ronnie Aguilar with James Wilson. Click Here

Merriman with James Wilson Click Here

Merriman looks 6-2 comparing the 2. A commenter states James looks 5-9.
viper said on 13/Oct/18
The 6-2 listed John Cusack gets guessed a lot at 6-3ish.

I thought he was originally shorter than that.
Andrea said on 12/Oct/18
Rising, it is possible that Shawne's head size is a bit enhanced there, but nonetheless I believe he has a naturally bigger head size and eyelevel than Terry. Plus, if you look at the background, it looks like there's also some tilt in Terry's favor, so the height difference between them is probably no less than 2 inches in that picture. Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean that the actual height difference between them is as much as that, but I certainly have a hard time believing that they're only within half an inch of each other, which would be the case if Shawne was truly as low as 6'2.5 and Terry 6'2-6'2.25.
But again, that's just one of the many reasons why I struggle to see him as low as that, considering that this how he looks with people who were supposedly measured between 6'2 and 6'3, so anywhere around that 6'2.5 mark:
- with 6'2 1/8 measured Larry English ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 4/8 measured Sean Taylor ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 1/8 measured Mark Sanchez ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 6/8 measured Melvin Fowler ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 1/8 measured Jon Condo ( Click Here ): Click Here
- with 6'2 6/8 measured (and 6'2.25 listed) Tim Tebow: Click Here Click Here
Other than looking taller than 6'3+ measured guys, such as Shaun Philips, Nick Hardwick, Antonio Gates and Vernon Davis, of course.
As for Armie Hammer's pic, I am well aware of the fact that a pic like that is hardly conclusive, but it goes to show that he can even look taller than guys who are supposedly over 6'4, like Armie (although I personally have never guessed him much over 6'4), which certainly makes that 6'2.5 figure even harder to believe (let alone viper's 6'1.5-6'2 "estimate"). (Also, bear in mind that Armie is a guy who generally stands with great posture in pics, so I highly doubt he could potentially be standing much worse than Shawne, and in fact he seems to be standing quite well there.)
That being said, me neither, I still haven't made up my mind yet, but, as I said, I certainly have a hard time believing he's as low as 6'2.5 (or even lower), considering how often he looks noticeably taller than that.
Canson said on 11/Oct/18
@Rising: the combine heights are all early morning however. So Osgood is likely 6’4.5 or 6’4 3/8. I’ve seen Merriman with Shaquille Calhoun who also measured 6’4 3/8 (morning) and Calhoun is at least an inch taller which again puts Merriman at a solid 6’3 best case. Marcellus Wiley looks taller than Merriman imho and we aren’t sure if Wiley is a legit 6’4”. If he measured that at the combine, then I can bank on him being lower than that in the afternoon. I don’t have Merriman as low as Viper but 6’2.5 imho
Canson said on 10/Oct/18
@Viper: I could buy flat 6’2” for him. 6’1.5 looks a bit short. He may even be over 6’2” as I’d have guessed 6’2.5 in many pics. That’s why he and Davis can look close in height at times although i still give the edge to Davis
viper said on 10/Oct/18
A 6-2 Shawne Merriman adds up with 6-4.5 Barkley
Canson said on 9/Oct/18
@Viper: Davis may be 6’2 7/8 at a low because he looks 6’3 in person. He looks within 1/2” of his combine
viper said on 9/Oct/18
A 6-2 Shawne Merriman adds up with 6-4.5 Barkley
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Oct/18
@Andrea: I meant all things being equal Shawne winds up looking a tiny bit shorter as in maybe 1 cm to a half inch and mostly because Shawne has about 1/8" hair while Wiley has a completely shaved head. I should have clarified what I meant by solid 6'3" range. I'll agree he looks to be dropping more height with his lean, but I don't know whether that posture difference is more than the footwear difference. Merriman standing up to Wiley's height doesn't look impossible in that photo. As for the Terry Crews pic, the top of their heads look a good 1.5" apart, maybe even 2", but do you think the difference in their head size is really as big as it looks in the photo? I honestly hadn't thought about how big either of their heads were, but it looks like about 1.5 to 2 cm difference in head size while the difference in eye level seems only around 3.5 cm difference to me since Terry's higher eye is a bit above the bottom of Merriman's nose.

Merriman does look roughly half an inch or so taller than 6'3.1" Shawn Phillips without considering there's some variables with Merriman slouching and further from the camera while Phillips is leaning in some himself. In those 2007 group photos, Shawne does look a bit taller than 6'3.75" Nick Hardwick and a bit shorter than 6'4.9" Kassim Osgood so I'd agree he looks a solid 6'4" or even a bit over in those pics depending on what the low angle does and how LT and Lorenzo Neal factor in. The pic with 6'3.5" Antonio Gates is a bit trickier, though. Gates is closer to the camera and the top of Merriman's head might still be a tiny bit higher, but he has his arms around Gates' shoulder while Gates is leaning in and actually has a higher eye level. Imo, there's too many variables in that photo. 6'3"-6'3.25" Vernon Davis is tricky too because they look very close to me in the waist up photo where they seem to be standing similarly side by side. The top of their heads can look almost indistinguishable to me, but Merriman barely has any hair and his eye level does look higher, but I can't tell from the full photo where Vernon is standing closer, but slouching off to the side. Of course there's the other photo where Vernon looks like he'd be taller: Click Here It's a flawed photo, but I think this shows how much height can vary in photos from the waist up with the camera close. Otherwise, the pic where he's looking taller posing with a supposedly 6'4.5" Armie Hammer would be pretty shocking as I think we can agree Shawne is not 6'5" since even the nurse measurement and other draft measurement put him a half inch or 5/8" below that. The photo where he towers Reggie Bush by 5" while visibly leaning does make him look like he'd easily clear 6'3" and might be closer to 6'4", but as I mentioned with some of viper's pics as well, ground level on grass is always a variable. This guy still confuses me, though as he does genuinely look a solid 6'4" in some of your photos and at least 6'3.5" in others, but then you have him in a seemingly good pic with 6'1" listed(6'1.5" combine) Adrian Peterson and he doesn't look anywhere near it. So I still haven't made up my mind yet.
viper said on 9/Oct/18
6-2 Jonathan Allen looks taller with 6-3 Dexter Manley than Merriman does. Click Here
viper said on 8/Oct/18
6-3 Vernon is taller than Merriman in pics and video
viper said on 8/Oct/18
There was a pic from 2005 where 6-3 Vernon was clearly taller. I remember Vegas commenting on it.

And Merriman looks 6-1.5 in that 2006 pic, even If it's tilted a bit. That's 1.5 inches at least.
viper said on 8/Oct/18
Flat 6-2 is what he really is
viper said on 8/Oct/18
I'd be surprised If Merriman is the same height as 6-2.5 Wiz
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 8/Oct/18
Looks 6'3" next to 6'0" listed D'qwell Jackson Click Here
Canson said on 8/Oct/18
@Rising and Viper: imho 6’3” would be a good start for him esp since Rob has a lot of other athletes 1/2” or so taller than they would measure at a low. Not fully convinced he’s as low as Viper pegged him (sub 6’2) but I can totally buy solid 6’2 range to a weak 6’3”
Andrea said on 8/Oct/18
Not so sure about that, Rising. I don't think Merriman looks any shorter than Wiley there. And while it is true that Wiley isn't standing as tall as he can, so isn't Merriman, who I think could be losing even more height than Wiley with that stance (albeit in bigger footwear). All things considered, I doubt Shawne would be much different than him, let alone over one inch shorter...
As for Crews, if he is somewhere in 6'2 range, I think Shawne looks much closer to 6'4 than 6'3 with him, or at least he looks like that in that picture I have posted: Click Here
184guy2 said on 8/Oct/18
@Andrea
I'm assuming that Armie is dropping more height because he is bending his knees . Shawne is loosing in his spine but the legs are straight . Anyway , he looks taller in the pic that you sent but we can't see the full body to analyze the posture ans shoes ( probably similar ) . With Marcellus I also would say that he look about 6'3 or just over . Don't think he is only 6'2 though .
viper said on 8/Oct/18
6-2 Deshaun Watson with 5-11 Fabolous.
Click Here
Rising - 174 cm said on 7/Oct/18
@Andrea: Thanks, I appreciate that. As for that pic, Merriman does only look about 1 cm to a half inch shorter than Wiley there while leaning, though Wiley's stance does look like a bit like the one Hugh Jackman does that drops some height. Without knowing the exact shoes they're wearing it looks like Merriman could have near 1 cm or at least 1/4" advantage as he has a decent heel while Wiley looks to have flat sneakers. All things considered, I'd still say Shawn looks solid 6'3" range there, which he did also look with Terry Crews as I mentioned. I'm not sure about him yet either so I haven't entered a guess. I'll go back with your posts about as far as I did with viper's posts and even then there's no guarantee I'll be sure. It's pretty crazy that between some of the early listings and his own claim, his height has been given anywhere from 6'2" to 6'5".
Canson said on 7/Oct/18
@Viper: even 6’3” is a good start
Canson said on 7/Oct/18
@184guy: most I could buy is 6’3” but I’d say 6’2.5
viper said on 7/Oct/18
6-2ish Wiz sure looks longer
Andrea said on 7/Oct/18
Yeah, 184guy2, that video is obviously useless and proves nothing (like basically every other video that viper has posted so far), but the same goes for that picture with Hammer, in which none of them are standing tall and it's obviously impossible to tell how much height either of them are losing with those stances. In this other pic Shawne actually looks a bit taller than Armie: Click Here
Myself said on 6/Oct/18
@viper
I think he's not over 6'2.5.
viper said on 6/Oct/18
If I had a chance to win Powerball money and the question was is Merriman 6-2, I'd say yes without blinking. He was measured as that and looks it in person. In fact looked a weak 6-2.
viper said on 6/Oct/18
6-2 Tyus Bowser looks 6-4-6-5.

6-2 Terence Garvin looked 6-5 with 6-2 Sinbad
viper said on 6/Oct/18
"you always present very-well structured, logical and, above all, unbiased arguments, without the need to be toxic and insult others to prove your points"

So basically the opposite of you. We knew that.
184guy2 said on 5/Oct/18
@Viper
Wiz is 100% nearer 6'3 than 6'2.5
The actual listing is the bare minimum
It's not a good video to conclude anything
But I post a few time in this page a picture where Merriman , in 1'-1'.25 sneaks with better bosture and camera angle advantage , looks no taller than a Barefoot 6'4.5 Armie Hammer .
Click Here
That would put him 6'3.25 max
viper said on 5/Oct/18
Wiz certainly has longer legs than Merriman
viper said on 5/Oct/18
Downgrading Merriman to 6-2.5 would be a good start
Andrea said on 5/Oct/18
Rising, while I agree that he can look as low as 6'2-6'3 with some of those guys you have mentioned (which I've never denied, and which is the reason why I'm still not completely sure about him, unlike I can be with other celebrities), that still doesn't explain how he manages to look taller than so many 6'2-6'3 and 6'3-6'3.5 MEASURED athletes (take a look at the older comments, to see what I'm talking about)... (As for that pic with Marcellus Wiley, I think Shawne is simply dropping more height, other than having some camera disadvantage, because they actually look quite close here, all things considered: Click Here )
That being said, I must say that it's always a pleasure to read your comments and have a discussion with you because, unlike certain other funny posters on here, you always present very-well structured, logical and, above all, unbiased arguments, without the need to be toxic and insult others to prove your points.
viper said on 5/Oct/18
Laron Profit is the guy that really surprised me at a Maryland basketball game. He looked just 6-4. And then I saw he was listed at 6-4 during his draft year.
viper said on 5/Oct/18
This guy is 5-8. Look at him with Merriman. Click Here
viper said on 4/Oct/18
Merriman boxing
6-2.5 Wiz khalifa
Click Here
Canson said on 4/Oct/18
@Rising: I don’t have any trouble believing Viper saw him either especially considering I also saw him and Viper mentioned the game that he saw him at and it was the one I was at. He also mentioned the details (when he was suspended from SD). I didnt see him up close (hundreds of feet away) but Viper did. I think with Dream he genuinely didn’t believe Viper’s estimate. However, with others, it’s because they don’t like him. The argument in question here began on Boris’s page and Viper only became a subject when his estimate didn’t align “properly” although he’s guessed by most people as under 6’4 as well
Canson said on 4/Oct/18
@Christian: very true! And guys who are measured in the morning may be right at their morning height (out of bed) if that is the first or second activity they get. I wonder how John wall and Damian Lillard measured what they did. Dwayne wade is another one. His may have been afternoon and he never looks that tall. I actually would believe that to be a shoe measurement that was placed in the wrong column
Canson said on 4/Oct/18
@Rising: Baker showed up late to the Senior Bowl and was measured at a different time than everyone else and was only 6’0 3/8. This was due to a family issue. His combine is 6’0 5/8. My guess is his low is 6’0 1/4 honestly. So 6’0.25 against 6’2.5 makes sense. Merriman looks at best a 6’3” some times but perhaps a weak 6’3. Even a strong 6’2” is possible.

I wholeheartedly agree with you as I said the same thing when he first got a page! 6’3” is a good start since his pro day is 6’2.4. Not sure if that’s 6’2 1/2 or 6’2 3/8. But 6’3 is a lot closer to the truth than 6’4 3/8. I don’t know where that number came from. Likely had some help.
Canson said on 4/Oct/18
@Rising: Baker showed up late to the Senior Bowl and was measured at a different time than everyone else and was only 6’0 3/8. This was due to a family issue. His combine is 6’0 5/8. My guess is his low is 6’0 1/4 honestly. So 6’0.25 against 6’2.5 makes sense. Merriman looks at best a 6’3” some times but perhaps a weak 6’3. Even a strong 6’2” is possible.
viper said on 3/Oct/18
Myself, you think he's 6-1?. 6-1.75 is not out of the question imo.
viper said on 3/Oct/18
I'm not from Maryland. My dad grew up there and all my relatives on his side of the family reside there. I've lived in NC all my life. I grew up a Maryland and Baltimore Orioles fan.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 3/Oct/18
@Canson

True, some (or maybe even many) players will intentionally lie down or do certain stretches, to preserve as much height as possible, so that they'll measure as tall as possible.
viper said on 2/Oct/18
Looks like they mismeasured JuJu Smith at the combine. He was measured 6-0 at his pro day. Click Here
Canson said on 2/Oct/18
@Viper: just because they measured that late doesn’t negate the fact that they may not be true afternoon measurements. Granted there is a much better chance that they are “closer” to a person’s low than an early morning but who is to say someone didn’t lie down all day before being measured. Kevin Love appears to have as 2008 measurements were afternoon but Love looks more 6’7 (and this is to people who’ve met him such as Dan majerle and the other post I made on his page with an encounter of another person) than 6’8 despite a 6’7.75 measurement. Love also looks 6’7” or so with Joakim Noah and Lebron who is likely no higher than 6’7 or 6’6.75
Myself said on 2/Oct/18
I haven't seen too many pics, but do you guys think he could be an occasional lift wearer? Because from those barefoot boxing videos i have a hard time seeing a legit 6'2 man, but maybe his proportions do not advantage him or i'm not the best at guessing.
You also should not forget that some guys, like Ronaldo for example, use to stand on tip toes (expecially with taller people) during photos!
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Oct/18
I don't have any trouble believing viper saw Merriman, especially since he's said he's from Maryland for years. I'm from New York and I've seen a number of Knicks players. Reviewing some of the comparisons viper has posted in a vacuum, Merriman doesn't look more than 2"-2.5" taller than 5'11.5" Rampage Jackson even considering he's tilting his head down and doesn't really look more than 6'2" with 5'11" Fabolous without knowing what role posture and ground level played. The difference with 184.5-184.8 cm Ray Lewis can vary due to posture and camera distance, but it's never less than 3.5 cm or never more than 7 cm, imo. Solid 6'6"-6'6.25" Melo does look near 4" taller as well since Merriman is just above his eyes or lower eyebrow and 6'6" Stephen Jackson actually looks even taller, but he does have better posture and his arms on both Merriman's shoulder and 6'4" combine measured Marcellus Wiley and Merriman looks near 2" shorter than Wiley, but Wiley might have the camera advantage and better posture. The apparently 6'3" or so Dean Muhtadi's eye level is higher than Merriman's while Merriman's cap ends up above Dean's hair for whatever that's worth. Shawn Kemp was supposedly 6'8.75" before the '89 draft and is leaning more than Merriman, but Merriman's hat only winds up around the lower part of Kemp's eyes. Merriman also looks about 2" taller than 6'0.5" Trump with neither standing with military posture and Merriman looks 2"-2.5" taller than 6'0.6" Baker Mayfield with seemingly worse posture, but Merriman has his arm around Mayfield's shouler.

Footwear is unknown in some of these and posture and camera advantage can vary, but he does look 6'2" in at least a couple lending some credence to viper seeing him at that. Even if Merriman and Seagal are more or less identical with the picture adjusted, Seagal's photo with Rob shows he can look 6'2" in photos meaning it doesn't necessarily disprove viper's claim. In fairness, I'll go back and look at some of Andrea's counter-arguments since Merriman did look easily 6'3" range to me with Terry Crews and if you believe the nurse's measurement then Merriman would have to be measured earlier and in some thick footwear like Nike Shox or Timberlands to wind up closer to 6'2". If the 6'2.4" was his actual measurement rather than a misprint, I'd be skeptical he'd be shorter than that, but I'm also skeptical he'd be any taller than his 6'3" college listing and at the very least, I could see listing Merriman no taller than Seagal as a good start.
viper said on 2/Oct/18
Just showing that a 6-2 guy like Bowser can look 6-4-6-5.
viper said on 2/Oct/18
2002 senior bowl measuring as late as 7:00 pm. Click Here

Ovie Mughelli measured over an inch shorter at 6-0.0. He measured 6-1.1 at the combine.
viper said on 2/Oct/18
It was Jimmy Smith Ozzie was referring to, not Mosely
viper said on 1/Oct/18
Bowser was measured at 6-2.3 at his pro day. Click Here
Canson said on 1/Oct/18
@Viper: Mosley could be the height tou have for Merriman. Combine is 6’2 flat so he’s likely 6’1.5 or 6’1 5/8. Maybe he had thick socks??? At his pro day
Canson said on 1/Oct/18
@Viper: wouldn’t surprise me if Mosley is sub 6’2” at a low especially if Ozzie saw a difference with him and he’s 6’2.5 out of his mouth
viper said on 1/Oct/18
6-2 Tyus Bowser looking the same height with 6-5 Cameron Malveaux. Click Here

Tyus Looks 6-4 with 6-0 Fred Ross. Click Here
viper said on 1/Oct/18
Cris Carter is 6-1. Same height as 6-1 Xavier Rhodes. Click Here
viper said on 30/Sep/18
6-2 Mosley with Ray Lewis. Click Here

He looks taller with Ray then Merriman does.
viper said on 30/Sep/18
Canson, CJ Mosley was measured 6-2.3 at his pro day. Click Here
Canson said on 30/Sep/18
@Viper: the Senior Bowl measurements take place in the morning now a days. Said that Wentz was measured in the AM. It’s identical to his combine so I wonder if he’s not really 6’4.75 or 7/8 at a low. Odd because I always thought he was a legit 6’5 guy at a low. He looks taller than Foles

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Canson said on 30/Sep/18
@Christian and Dream: while I agree that 6’1.5 seems low, I could see a flat 6’2” or 6’2.25. The difference may have been slightly less than Viper thought. Could’ve been where he also had slight advantage in footwear and or posture. It may have been something like a 2 cm difference instead of 1.25. Viper mentioned that he’s around 6’2.75 at a low so 6’1.5-6’2 would mean about an inch. 2cm could easily be mistake for an inch and if he had footwear or posture difference or underestimated him that may explain it
viper said on 29/Sep/18
They just called a 6-4 tight end 6-7 during the Penn state-Ohio State game.

I don't understand announcers inflating players heights inches more than even their listed height!!
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 29/Sep/18
@viper

It's not impossible that you wore an extra pair of insoles or orthotics when you met him, and had footwear advantage without realizing it.
viper said on 28/Sep/18
6-1 Goldberg looks taller. Click Here
viper said on 28/Sep/18
I think I was just wearing regular sneakers. I doubt I had a footwear advantage.

There use to be a bunch of pics of him at that game in 2006 on a photo sharing site standing on the sideline and the pavement circle around the stadium. Looked like regular sneakers
viper said on 28/Sep/18
I see Leveon Bell was measured at 6-1.3 and 6-1.6
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 28/Sep/18
I don't really see Merriman being as low as 6'2", let alone 6'1.5". He's more 6'2.5" but not higher than that. His 6'2" Pro Day listing could've been rounded down from the 6'2.4" Senior Bowl measurement. No offense to Viper, but he could've either lowballed Merriman's height a bit, or he had a lot of footwear advantage over Merriman when he met him. That's just my opinion though.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 27/Sep/18
@Canson I definitely see 6'2.5" as a possibility. I just don't think he's as low as 6'1.5". Viper maybe right about Merriman. Also, for that supposed measurement, it's very likely Shawne had shoes on.

@Viper I apologize for my rude statement. Since you met Shawne Merriman, I'm sure you knew he was well under 6'4". Based on what you've seen, it's very possible that 6'2" is the best listing.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 27/Sep/18
@Canson

Yeah, maybe I took it too far. I still agree with Merriman being well under 6'4" for sure. 6'3" flat or 6'2.5" wouldn't come out as a surprise. However, I don't think he's as low as 6'1.5".
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 26/Sep/18
@viper

Merriman was leaning and lowering his head down though. The difference would've looked around 6 inches had Merriman stood up better. I don't believe that Cung is 5'9" though, maybe around 5'8.5".
Canson said on 26/Sep/18
Viper: it’s also possible you had a footwear advantage on him. He may only be 6’2 or so and be 6’2.5 or 6’2.75 in shoes or you may have had a thicker shoe than him and been over 6’4 in yours.

You just said it perfectly with Junior Seau
Canson said on 26/Sep/18
@Viper: his pro day was 6’2.4 either 6’2 3/8 or 1/2. He’s prob not less than a full 6’2”. Maybe he didn’t stand straight with you only because that would be an awful lot to lose. Most lose 1/4-3/8” after an hour or so of waking which is why combines are usually about 3/8 or 1/2 above senior bowl measurements

@Dream: to be fair Rudy Gay has played ball with Merriman and called him 6’2.” As well, the MD game Viper is referring to, I saw Merriman at that same game but wasn’t as close to him as Viper was. I assumed his 6’3 or 6’4 listing was prob accurate because I couldn’t get close enough to size him up. While 6’1.5-6’2 may be a bit low, Viper may be closer to the truth than the average person saying 6’4 or 6’3-6’4 range. Viper also guessed a couple other guys more accurately like Rising said. Not always popular guess but sometimes the unpopular guess is the right one. My opinion is 6’2” range and doesn’t dip under if not 6’2.5
viper said on 26/Sep/18
Rudy Gay is a lying liar as well. There was no charity basketball game where he played with Merriman and said he was 6-2
viper said on 25/Sep/18
Merriman can look 6-1 a lot. Dream I take great offense to what you said to me
viper said on 25/Sep/18
Rising that pic shouldn't surprise you.

Merriman looked 6-1.5-6-2 up close
viper said on 25/Sep/18
Junior Seau was listed at 6-5 in high school but was measured at 6-2. He could look only 6-1 a lot wearing flip flops.
Canson said on 25/Sep/18
@Christian: 5’8 May make sense for Cung like Viper mentioned
Canson said on 25/Sep/18
@Dream: I wouldn’t go that far to say he lied because according to a friend who had also met Merriman he’s around 6’2” which could mean slightly over that. I doubt he’s under it. Maybe he wasn’t standing his tallest when he met Viper. But I’d also be hard pressed to say the guy is over 6’2.5. 6’3” is tops and only sometimes do I believe. He generally looks 6’2.5. He doesn’t look 6’1 with Mitchell however. Mitchell looks 6’1-6’1.5 with Walt Williams if he’s 6’6. So Merriman looks about 6’3 in the pic
Canson said on 25/Sep/18
@Viper: I disagree. Comparing Merriman and Mitchell to Wiz and Mitchell, Merriman looks closer to 6’3” which is how he looks if Cung is a legit 5’9”. Mitchell looks 6’1.5 assuming Wiz is 6’6”.
Canson said on 25/Sep/18
@Viper: 6’1 7/8 is possible but 6’2 also is if 6’2 3/8 equivalent to a combine measurement
Dream(5'9.5") said on 25/Sep/18
@viper

I agree Merriman isn’t the full 6’4” as he’s listed, but i want to see an ‘actual’ picture of you and Merriman, unless you didn’t bother to take one. Otherwise, I only believe that you just made up the story of meeting Merriman.
viper said on 25/Sep/18
Christian, the top of Cung's head is above his eyebrows
viper said on 25/Sep/18
Sorry Dream, he looked 6-1.5-6-2 to me back in 2006 at a Maryland-Miami football game up close.

He was measured at 6-2 at his pro day
viper said on 25/Sep/18
I saw a 6-3 listing for Jeff Driskell
viper said on 25/Sep/18
The Nike high school combine has measured players almost an inch higher at times
viper said on 24/Sep/18
They just called 6-4ish Juan Pierre Paul 6-8 on Monday night football lol
viper said on 24/Sep/18
Burt Reynolds was listed at 5-10 in college, yet he's 5-11 here.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 24/Sep/18
@viper

Merriman actually looks easily 6 inches taller than Cung, but Cung might not be a full legit 5'9".
viper said on 24/Sep/18
I believe Merriman would have measured 6-1.7 or so at the senior bowl. They usually measure shorter there.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 23/Sep/18
@viper

the pictures you've posted with Seth Mitchell are the pictures where the floors are elevated.

Those seats are actually on different floor levels. It's not the best picture at all.

I get it. Merriman doesn't look 6'4". However, I wouldn't put him as low as 6'1.5".

You know what? I'm beginning to think you've lied about meeting 'Merriman.'
viper said on 23/Sep/18
A guy on Cung Lee's page as met him and says 5-8. That would make Merriman
6-0 there.
viper said on 23/Sep/18
Shouldn't surprise you Rising. Merriman looks 6-1.5-6-2 up close in person
Canson said on 23/Sep/18
I agree with Frost. Ray is around 6’0.5 max. Maybe 6’0.25 honestly. Merriman claiming 6’5 is a joke and him being listed 6’4 is even a joke like Dwayne Wade
viper said on 22/Sep/18
Lifeperformance looks 6-1 Click Here

Here he is boxing Merriman. At times he looks taller. Click Here
viper said on 22/Sep/18
Merriman with Seth Mitchell. Click Here


6-6 measured Walt Williams with Seth Mitchell. Click Here
viper said on 22/Sep/18
Merriman looks 6-1.5 with 5-9 Cung Lee

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viper said on 22/Sep/18
6-2 Ken Griffey looks taller with Mario Abdretti than Shawne Merriman does. Click Here

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viper said on 21/Sep/18
Palmer just called Betances 6-10 lol
viper said on 21/Sep/18
Jim Palmer can't tell height. He said I'm 6-3 and Cody Carroll is 6-7 up close.

Cody is listed at 6-5
viper said on 21/Sep/18
He's under 6-3 Neal
viper said on 21/Sep/18
I just had a 5-9 guy at work telling me to lift something up because I'm stronger. I said really? He said yeah look at you. I said thanks for the compliment I guess. He said it's not really a compliment.

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Canson said on 21/Sep/18
@Viper: butler is 6’5” as well. And yes Merriman is nowhere near his height. That can’t be 6’4 3/8 if Butler measured 6’5.25. Doubt Butler is a morning height. He’s 6’5” in person
viper said on 21/Sep/18
I can't explain how Gates looks 6-1 there with those guys
Rising - 174 cm said on 21/Sep/18
Meant to comment back when that Rampage Jackson pic was posted since that one surprised me. Liam Neeson looked much taller next to Rampage in that A-Team film they did.
Frost said on 20/Sep/18
You would have to believe Ray Lewis is 6'2 to believe Shawne is 6'4.

Ray barely looks his listed height next to Bill Burr as well.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 20/Sep/18
@viper

Actually, Merriman was walking while Snoop Dog was standing. Also, I don’t see a 2 inch difference.

I’m not saying Merriman is the full 6’4”. He isn’t in my eyes.
Canson said on 19/Sep/18
@Viper: I noticed Jeff Driskel is 6’4” on his combine too. Likely that the measurements on coach scout (at least some of them) are morning heights. That’s unless he was not actually measured at the combine and they used a different measurement. It seems Pro Days and Senior Bowl measurements are done early morning or at least similar to early morning these days
Canson said on 18/Sep/18
@Viper: I saw the video with he and Glazer. Merriman looks nowhere near 6’4 “physically” in the video. Looks 6’2” and Larry Fitzgerald looks taller with him than Merriman
Canson said on 18/Sep/18
@Viper: those are even morning heights likely. Carlos Dunlap’s combine measurement is 6’5 3/4. And it shows 6’5 7/8. I know previously Vincent Jackson was 6’4 3/4 at the combine but 6’4 3/8 at the Senior Bowl (from Coachscout). I think people are likely measured Early morning now a days. Dunlap likely is not noticeably taller than Christian in reality. Maybe edges him by “up to” 1/8”. I see 6’5 3/8 as Dunlap’s low and Christian comes down to 6’5.25 some days

Sam Hubbard shows 6’5 flat on his combine measurement (one source) and 6’5 3/8 on the other. Yet the coach scout has 6’5.4. Not sure if the 6’5.4 means 6’5 3/8 or 1/2 going by that source because I’ve seen .9 there before.
Canson said on 18/Sep/18
@Viper: those are even morning heights likely. Carlos Dunlap’s combine measurement is 6’5 3/4. And it shows 6’5 7/8. I know previously Vincent Jackson was 6’4 3/4 at the combine but 6’4 3/8 at the Senior Bowl (from Coachscout). I think people are likely measured Early morning now a days. Dunlap likely is not noticeably taller than Christian in reality. Maybe edges him by “up to” 1/8”. I see 6’5 3/8 as Dunlap’s low and Christian comes down to 6’5.25 some days

Sam Hubbard shows 6’5 flat on his combine measurement
viper said on 18/Sep/18
Nick Mangold is a measured 6-3.2 at the senior bowl. Demarcus Ware is 6-3.5 at the senior bowl. Suggs 6-3.3.

Gates only looks 6-1 there
viper said on 18/Sep/18
2:18 mark in slo mo.
Click Here
Merriman is clearly 2 inches shorter than 6-3.5 Snoop.
viper said on 18/Sep/18
Merriman is clearly 3 inches shorter than 6-5 Caron Butler at the 3:27 mark.

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viper said on 18/Sep/18
Excuse me, Patterson was measured at
6-1.7 and 6-2.5
viper said on 18/Sep/18
Coradelle Patterson looks exactly like Merriman physically to me going through photos on Facebook. He was measured
6-1.7 and 6-2.3
viper said on 17/Sep/18
I'm watching the Bears game, and Roquan Smith clearly looks shorter than 6-0 Danny Travathan
Canson said on 17/Sep/18
@Viper: I heard someone say over the weekend that Steve Nash was barely 6’0” in person yet he’s listed 6’3”. I always thought he was a good 6 footer not quite 6’1” but potentially sub 6’0” surprises me until you see him with Kobe or MWP or Marion. He may only be 6’1” in shoes
viper said on 17/Sep/18
Samson was never measured at 6-2.2 that draftscout has him.

He was measured at 6-1.3 at the NFLPA bowl and 6-1.7 at his pro day
viper said on 17/Sep/18
Samson Ebukam's height is all over the place. 6-2.2 6-1.7 6-1.3 Click Here
Canson said on 16/Sep/18
@Andrea and Viper: neither of you are trolls. If you wanna talk about a troll look at someone like Chris or Goose. They are textbook trolls
viper said on 16/Sep/18
Couchscout has Vincent Rey's correct measured height of 6-0.4 Click Here
viper said on 16/Sep/18
Merriman might have a bare knuckle fight with 6-3 Greg Hardy
viper said on 16/Sep/18
So many dubious measurements in the NFL
viper said on 16/Sep/18
Malik Jefferson isn't a measured 6-2. He looks 6-0
Canson said on 16/Sep/18
@Viper: that probably explains why Andrea mentioned that he’s shorter than Merriman. Gates looked taller in a different picture however.

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Canson said on 16/Sep/18
@viper: that’s likely in cleats. He’s prob 6’0” and a little bit
Canson said on 15/Sep/18
Merriman is only about 4-5” taller than ladanian Tomlimson who was measured 5’10.25 in the morning
viper said on 14/Sep/18
Merriman looks 6-1 boxing 5-7 Jay Glazer. Click Here

Glazer may be even shorter than 5-7 seeing other pics of him.
viper said on 13/Sep/18
Vincent Rey is 6-0 yet ourlads has him at 6-1.5 Click Here
viper said on 13/Sep/18
Yeah Davis is 6-2.75 at a low like me
Canson said on 11/Sep/18
@Wayne: I saw the same thing Viper did and Rob posted it above where it says 6’2 274 and he also has a Pro day of 6’2.4 which is 6’2 1/2”. So that’s another thing that says something different but he was listed 6’3” at MD not 6’4. 6’3” was likely in cleats. Honestly, I believe 6’2” range. He’s not as tall as Vernon davis who I’ve met and pegged 6’3”. Now maybe he’s 6’2.75 at a low since I come down to 6’4.25 at a low and used to class myself 6’4.5 but it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s 6’3” on the nose either. 6’3.25 was his combine height (in the early morning). I’d be hard pressed to believe that Merriman is over an inch taller than him. Davis looks taller.
Andrea said on 11/Sep/18
Wayne, that 6'2 4/8 figure comes from couchscout, an unofficial site whose the owner himself admitted that its data aren't always reliable and exempt of errors... Plus, if you take a look at that couchscout page that has Shawne down at 6'2 4/8, you can also see Shaun Phillips at 6'3 1/8, Nick Hardwick at 6'3 6/8 and Antonio Gates at 6'3 4/8, which certainly makes Shawne's "measurement" quite hard to believe, considering that he looks easily taller than all of them: Click Here Click Here Click Here
viper said on 10/Sep/18
Sometimes I wonder If Gates is even 6-3. He doesn't look it here with 6-4.5 Rivers.

Click Here

He looked shorter than 6-3 Suggs on family feud
Andrea said on 10/Sep/18
"viper said on 8/Sep/18
You are great at trolling Andrea",
said one of the biggest, if not the biggest, troll in Celebheights history, LMFAO.
Wayne said on 10/Sep/18
Another link claiming Merriman was measured 6'4" during the pro day Click Here
Wayne said on 10/Sep/18
Well can someone tell me where does that supposed 6'2.4" pro day measurement come from ?
Here it says he was measured at the exact same height during pro day and combine Click Here
viper said on 9/Sep/18
If we are gonna draw lines on hats, Luis Castillos hat is clearly taller
viper said on 9/Sep/18
There is no way Jaylon Smith actually measured 6-2.

Heck, he physically looks shorter than RG3
Canson said on 9/Sep/18
@Viper: I think Dean would be

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