General Height - Page 8

Sandy Cowell said on 4/Jan/23
@ Gian - Many thanks! 😁👍🏼

Poster said on 3/Jan/23
@Jdubbz: I don't fully agree with that. My method is better. It's more accurate and more realistic. I explained why. The weights are too high for short women and too low for tall women. Many women have muscle weight too. Muscle weighs more than flab. I know some fat skinny short girls. Female athletes and female bodybuilders should weigh more than sedentary women at the same height. I also think that the charts are too complicated. My chart makes much more sense, and it's easy for people to follow. I'll stick with it.

Alex 6'0 said on 3/Jan/23
Jdubzz, so 6'6 guy equals 6'0 female. Makes sense because i feel i see more 6'5 guys than 6'0 women.

Leesheff85 said on 3/Jan/23
No way is the woman in black noirs photo 174cm she wouldn't be taller than big rob!! No way. Looks average height at best

Peter 180cm said on 3/Jan/23
Yeah BMI formulas are often crap at estimations. I'm now roughly 83kg and roughly 1.80 so that would make me look slightly overweight or just normal weight,but people often comment that I've lost weight and that i need to eat up lolz. I think the taller someone is,the more weight he/she can put on and still look normal or lean. It's just a matter of dimensions-it's easier to balance and even out weight on a taller body than on an average/shorter one.

Bobby said on 3/Jan/23
@Poster

A disturbing proportion of people tend to write poorly, but I am not one of them. I also don't fret over insignificant fractions such as quarters and half inches. I measure a quarter below 5'10 in the evening, but I always describe myself as a 5'10 guy.

I used to be much more captivated by human height, but I have lost interest now that I am older and wiser. I suppose I get along more with people ten years older than me than with people my age or younger. If nothing else, it does interest me to try and figure out how tall some of my favourite video game characters might be if they were real, but that's more of a head exercise than anything else.

I don't know what 2023 has in store for you or me, but I hope it will bring forth great opportunities and memories!

Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 3/Jan/23
6'1.75" at noon is outstanding tall

Gian 181cm said on 3/Jan/23
@Sandy Cowell
Thank you so much Ms.Sandy Cowell, I wish you all the best for this year.

rlheight5'11 said on 3/Jan/23
@Bobby
I didn't say that but he isn't breaking any rules nor is he annoying Rob.

Moneymaker! said on 3/Jan/23
How tall would you estimate Liver King? The guy looks 5'5" maybe 5'6" to me.

Black Noir said on 3/Jan/23
Hey rob would u say he looks 190 cm? How many inches is between him and my uncle on the far left?

Sandy Cowell said on 3/Jan/23
A Happy New Year to you too, Gian - for the entire 12 months! 🔔

Peter 180cm said on 2/Jan/23
@jokey Well obviously he thought you were huge,i would think the same for someone over 1.90, it's all a matter of perspective.

viper said on 2/Jan/23
At 6-3 I feel like I stand out a bit

I think even at 6-2 I would feel like I stand out a bit

Alex 6'0 said on 2/Jan/23
Progking, you and jawilder would be exactly the same. Possibly 1/8 difference no more. Have a good cm over me.

Original said on 2/Jan/23
SDs from average 0.5 = above average 1 = tall 2 = very tall 3 = extremely tall 4 = freakish

5'10 as average
5'11.25 above average
6'0.75" tall
6'3.75" very tall
6'6.75" extremely tall
6'9.5"+ freakish

Sandy Cowell said on 2/Jan/23
The very same to you, Gian. XX

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 2/Jan/23
Hey Rob, I know I've asked before but any idea how tall comedian David Earl is? I thought he could look 5'10 maybe 5'10.25 in Brian and Charles movie.

adrianjacobs said on 2/Jan/23
@dreus23
No, the average swedish man is totally way below 6ft. Since the average swedish man is "5'9.5-5'10", the average american or british man must be around 5'7-5'8 according to you? Or you know what? Swedish men are probably the same height or even shorter than americans.
And yes, swedish women are extremely petite of course and barely 5ft. Swedes must know better than anyone else how to properly measure themselves.

Gian 181cm said on 2/Jan/23
Happy new year everyone.

Sandy Cowell said on 2/Jan/23
You know you’re either short or tall when people use your size as a talking point.

I had an incident in hospital on Friday, just before I left, in which the lady in the bed next to me, named Valerie, felt too ill to eat her dinner, so she asked me what my cats might like. I replied, “They love chicken.”

When the dinners arrived, Valerie duly gave me hers, together with a doggie bag, and I sat there with two dinners, hers having been emptied into the bag, and I was nibbling at the mixed veg. The orderly who had come in with the dinners returned, and saw me with two plates and stopped and stared, open-mouthed, for quite a few seconds. Valerie, who’s 84 and a touch under 5ft3, started laughing because ‘the sight of a person my size eating two dinners tickled her!’

The orderly was told about the arrangement that my cats should have Valerie’s chicken, and they darted on the bag and tore it open as soon as I arrived home! 😻

Black Noir said on 2/Jan/23
Hey rob, with these peoples permission all there footwear is pretty similar, how tall do u think the man on the far right is my uncle, if the lady in the middle is 174 cm?

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Jdubbz said on 1/Jan/23
@Poster

Weight and height charts like BMI (which I assume you’re referring to here) are accurate enough for average height people. Especially the average woman, who most certainly does not have enough muscle or a wide enough frame for a false positive overweight or obese BMI value. Where it completely breaks down is with people on the extremes of height. The creator of the BMI formula foolishly assumed that weight scales with height squared. As if humans are two dimensional and don’t grow in width and depth as they grow in height. An absolutely moronic assumption. It assumes tall people are more overweight than they really are, and short people are less overweight than they really are.

Jdubbz said on 1/Jan/23
Meltdown said on 31/Dec/22
@ adrianposter said on 26/Dec/22

The problem with charts like these is you can't have overlap. 5'5 and 5'7 and 5'9 etc. are all in multiple categories. You need distinct boundaries.

Maybe 5'3 to 5'4.5 and 5'5 to 5'6.5, etc.

There is no perfect solution. The problem with what you propose is that you’re leaving out a ton of heights that are on the boundaries.

rlheight5'11 said on 1/Jan/23
Rob said on 22/Dec/22
One thing that's helped is slowly reducing and eliminating unnecessary stuff online.

Also, I feel I'm dealing with Time Thieves better as I age.
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Every little helps! I can see why you look for ways to work efficiently given your hectic routine.

rlheight5'11 said on 1/Jan/23
Rob said on 24/Dec/22
Also screams when she don't like the song or if I'm being too loud with my own singing
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Your own singing? Did I read that right😄

rlheight5'11 said on 1/Jan/23
@Editor Rob
That's fair and it sounds like you've seen enough of the Christmas trees. It's normal to get fed up/lose interest anyway.

Jdubbz said on 1/Jan/23
Alex 6'0 said on 31/Dec/22
Jdubzz, 6'0 female should be just as common as a 6'5-6'5.5 guy I'd assume

Nah, not quite. The standard 5” difference becomes closer to 6” when comparing a very tall man and women. It’s a ratio, not a fixed value.

Poster said on 1/Jan/23
@Bobby: I feel the same way about you. Your posts are coherent and cohesive, and they make sense to me. They're not confusing gibberish. I wish that more people could express themselves in such a clear, concise manner. I have a feeling that you're also like me in that you don't fret over half inches or quarter inches. Most people won't even notice such minor differences in real life, but I get why people talk about them on a height board. They make my eyes glaze over, though. I hope that 2023 is the best year yet for you!

Jdubbz said on 1/Jan/23
Progking185 said on 30/Dec/22
@Italianguy yeah I think 190-191 or right around 6'3 is occasionally very tall but more of a big regular tall height. It standouts most places but not enough to feel very tall a lot and tower more

Yeah I think you’re spot on. It’s occasionally very tall, but generally speaking it’s on the upper end of the regular tall range. Among the general population it can definitely stand out and sometimes be very tall, but for younger people (especially white and black men), 6’4 is a better start of very tall. Perhaps even 6’4-5. Whatever 99th percentile is for that demographic.

I used to categorize the various tall groups (tall, very tall, extremely tall, etc.) by standard deviations, but I think percentiles might be more intuitive. Tall = 90th percentile or 1/10 guys, very tall = 99th percentile or 1/100 guys, extremely tall = 99.9th percentile or 1/1000, super/outstanding tall = 99.99th percentile, etc. The only issue is that each inch becomes more and more rare as you get further from average, so a 1/100,000 and a 1/1,000,000 height may only be 1-2” apart.

Progking185 said on 1/Jan/23
@Jawilder you can claim 6'1, probably would look about that in some footwear. I'm about 6'0.5 low otherwise a little over during day and with some shoes I measure 6'2, and could probably pass as 6'1. If closer to 6'0 night that's more of a 6'0 claim

Progking185 said on 1/Jan/23
@Meltdown yeah most places 6'6 is kind of rare except my grocery store I work at i see a few 6'6+ guys daily, it's weird, and 6'2-6'4 seems kind of common lol. I live in a small town where the average can seem a bit higher at times. Though other places a 6'3-6'4 guy is one of the tallest around, it just depends on the area if there are more tall people out

Jdubbz said on 1/Jan/23
@Meltdown

I agree completely. Among younger people, 6’1.75-2 isn’t even in the top few percentiles. It’s closer to 90th percentile than 97-99th. It’s a fantastic height, but nowhere near rare enough to be “outstanding tall”, whatever that even means. I agree that 6’6+ is a better benchmark for that. Maybe even 6’8+. I’m a fraction over 6’6 at my lowest, and I genuinely haven’t seen anyone taller than me since October. That’s not a common experience though, generally I can go 3 weeks to a month without that happening.

dreus23 said on 1/Jan/23
@adrianjacobs

Tell that to Michael Nyqvist lmao

But yeah, sure, every man in Sweden is 6'8 and every woman is petite and 5'0 max, whatever makes you happy dude

rlheight5'11 said on 1/Jan/23
@Editor Rob
Happy new year 😀

Honest5'11" said on 1/Jan/23
In most european countries for men: 5'2" extremely short, 5'4" very short, 5'6" rengular short, 5'8" below average, 5'10" average, 6'0" above average, 6'2" regular tall, 6'4" very tall, 6'6" extremely tall.

Honest5'11" said on 1/Jan/23
@adrianposter I'd say that saying anything above 180 cm flat is average in Sweden is crazy, but less than a strong 179 cm is also not probable. The tallest ones in the Scandinavian countries (and in the world) are Estonians and Finns easy, probably around 181cm average in height.

James Edward Crowley said on 1/Jan/23
Hi Rob now it is 2023, I wonder if you will be 5ft 8in, and will your hair, and beard get anymore greyer it is a miracle your 5ft 8im what is your secret you haven't lost any height at 46 yet when will it happen will you ever lose height, and drop to 5ft 6.5in,I predict you will start to lose height at 90 if you ever live that long you seem to be anti height loss maybe you have some anti height lost formula.

Alex 6'0 said on 1/Jan/23
Canson, if you met jdubzz it would be an interesting pic. I know its kinda seldom you see guys taller than you.

Jdubbz said on 1/Jan/23
@dreus23:

Also an unpopular opinion, but "blending in" is super overrated. I really don't understand what's so good about it. No one wants to blend in with the average level of: facial attractiveness, income, wealth, intelligence, social status, physical strength, health, etc. Standing out by being above the average of any of those traits is a highly desirable thing for almost anyone.

The same thing applies to tallness, which is another trait that is almost universally seen as desirable for males. Of course it's more complicated than that since you need to factor things like proportions into the equation, but generally speaking, being an above average or tall man is a very good thing. Just like being above average in any of the other traits I listed.

I also have to disagree with the notion that being shorter or taller than average height increases the likelihood of height becoming a part of one's identity. If anything, most of the people I've seen irl or on the internet who bring up height (be it mine or their own), are average height dudes. They're also the ones most likely to inflate their height by several inches. At the very least, they seem to think and talk about height a lot more often than the 6'2+ tall guys I have conversed with. Again, just my experience.

Meltdown said on 31/Dec/22
@ Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 30/Dec/22

There is nothing "outstanding" about being 6'1.75" or 6'2". Sure you're in the top few percent of people at that height, but we all see hundreds, if not thousands of people every week or two.

The truly rare height for men is over 6'6". You can go out to a grocery store or a downtown area for an hour an actually NOT see someone at that height. But 6'2" is actually quite common enough, considering you are bound to see a few men at that height every day at least.

Meltdown said on 31/Dec/22
@ adrianposter said on 26/Dec/22

The problem with charts like these is you can't have overlap. 5'5 and 5'7 and 5'9 etc. are all in multiple categories. You need distinct boundaries.

Maybe 5'3 to 5'4.5 and 5'5 to 5'6.5, etc.

Jawilder said on 31/Dec/22
@Canson I claim 6’0-6’1. Tho I’m closer to 6’1 than 6’0.

Poster said on 31/Dec/22
AK World linked to a height chart for 19-year-old men and women in each country. I noticed that many female averages are over 5'5. The American height is still around 5'4, though. Would it be higher if it was limited to white girls?

Peter 180cm said on 31/Dec/22
Happy New Year everyone! I wish you all the best and may your life bring joy and prosperity.

Progking184 said on 31/Dec/22
@Jdubbz yeah around 6'3 starts to looks big and very tall to the general public(6'2.75 low?) while 6'2 is regular tall. Its like the average tall guy maybe, though in some cases it looks quite big around shorter people.

Bobby said on 31/Dec/22
@Poster

I understand, and I agree. You seem to be one of the only users I can level with intellectually and emotionally.

Otherwise, I sometimes see posts on here that make no sense to me, and it bothers me deep down because no one else seems to be pointing out the illogical nature of it.

adrianjacobs said on 31/Dec/22
@dreus23
Good luck blending in with guys in Sweden at 5'9.5.

Alex 6'0 said on 31/Dec/22
Public enemy, yea 6'7 thats legitimately extremely tall. You're just under 6'2 thats towering i would agree. I had a friend who was between 6'4.5 and 6'5 and i felt kinda towered myself

Alex 6'0 said on 31/Dec/22
Jdubzz, 6'0 female should be just as common as a 6'5-6'5.5 guy I'd assume

Public Enemy said on 31/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
What is the average distance between the hair line and the top of the head assuming no receding hairline.

Public Enemy said on 31/Dec/22
Have become good friends with a couple and the guy is 200cm. I see this guy regularly (3 times a week) and he has good proportions . For me I do feel towered every time I meet him. It’s a completely different experience with someone whose is say 192 cm. I am
187 cm evening low.. He’s the tallest guy I have seen for a long time.

chad michaels said on 30/Dec/22
@Rob, how much do u think the air max 97s give?
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Alex 6'0 said on 30/Dec/22
6'1-6'2 i see on daily basic out anywhere its easy to find. 6'3 range it becomes less and 6'4 plus when u stand out in crowds typically

Progking185 said on 30/Dec/22
@Italianguy yeah I think 190-191 or right around 6'3 is occasionally very tall but more of a big regular tall height. It standouts most places but not enough to feel very tall a lot and tower more

Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 30/Dec/22
6'1.75"-6'2 is outstanding tall, 6'2.5 is very tall in US

jokey said on 30/Dec/22
Peter 180cm said on 29/Dec/22
@ jokey If your eyelevel is really 5'7 you will probably look 5'11.5-6ft to people, let's say 1.82 for convenience. Do people guess you at 1.83-1.85 often? It would make sense.

two of my short uncles guessed me over 5'11 and were suprised that i was only 180cm. when i first met my 5'5 friend he said i was huge lol.

dreus23 said on 30/Dec/22
Unpopular opinion but 5'9.5-5'10 is literally just perfect height range. You're solid average which means your height is never a big part of your identity, so it's near impossible that you'll get "wow you're tall" or "wow you're short" remarks

If you want to be tall, I completely understand that, and I'd be lying if I said that I haven't fantasized about being like 6'2-6'3; I wouldn't be surprised if most men have done that atleast once. But I personally simply have no interest in being noticeably tall like so many guys have. I wouldn't complain if I suddenly grew to that range, but generally the best thing about being that height is being able to say that you are that height, since society is obsessed with categorization and labels

Personally, I just prefer to blend in as solid average appearance-wise, so that I'm able to focus on my personality and interests instead. You can obviously do that whether you're 5'5 or 6'3 as well, but it's easier if your height isn't the first thing people notice about you

QM6'1.5"QM said on 30/Dec/22
adrianjacobs said on 28/Dec/22
@QM6'1.5"QM
Are you afraid of being called "not tall"?

I'm not afraid to be called "not tall", i been called tall by strong 6'5" guy this summer. For example.

Also i seen so much people and lotta guys who inflated their heights on 1-3inches in reality, no saying about websites, apps, Instagram and other "profiles".
A few years ago i been witness of crazy shocking situation (on my working place), when this guy still claimed he's 6'1" and i said ,"come on, go to the mirror". There's flat floor in the mall. He was around my eyebrows, so it's like good 8cms difference.

Honestly, i have too much crazy height-stories like these.

James Edward Crowley said on 30/Dec/22
Hi rob since 5ft 8.75in is nearly 5ft 9in would that height be considered the transition zone from short to average height once men reach that height, They will get illusion of looking 5ft 10in barefoot if they have a medium build strong 5ft 9in men can is solid average height which is 5ft 10in but weak 5ft 9in men who are 5ft 8.75in can't pass for 5ft 10in guys who are a weak 5ft 9in 5ft 8.75in are losing the short look.

Black Noir said on 30/Dec/22
Hey rob do u think Stan walker is more a strong 5’10r?

Poster said on 29/Dec/22
@Bobby: Please take this in the right way. Our freedoms and our incomes shrink by the day, and you and I likely agree on the reasons for this, but this isn't a political forum. Don't sweat the small stuff. Don't let small stuff bother you, which sometimes is hard to do.

I agree with what you said about the height categories and height chart. It makes no sense. That's what I mean by contradictions in a single sentence. "5'10 women are noticeable in very large groups, but they don't stick out in crowds."

Canson said on 29/Dec/22
@Jawilder: yea that’s similar to me where I get 6’4 1/4” at a low and can get 6’4 1/8 on an extreme low day and the lowest extreme low 6’4” flat. As far as your claim, what do you claim? 6’0 1/2” or 6’1” or almost 6’1”? Not sure how I would in your case but in mine if I were 6’4 3/8-5/8, I’d go with 6’4 1/2” more than likely

Jdubbz said on 29/Dec/22
@James Edward Crowley

6’0 for a female is technically much more common than 6’7 is for a male. The equivalent height is something like 6’5.75 which is 2 or 3 times as common as 6’7.

Jdubbz said on 29/Dec/22
Bobby said on 28/Dec/22
@adrianposter

Your height chart makes no sense. Why do you say that 5'7 is "normal" short, but then call it "shortish?" Why do you lump that in with 5'9 but then call it average height? Why do you refer to 5'11 as average height but then call it tallish? Why do you call 6'1 tallish but then call it normal tall? Finally, why do you say 6'3 is normal tall but then call it very tall?

I’m not 100% sure if this is what he intended, but I do the same thing in my height charts. For example, If I said 6’0 - 6’4 is tall and 6’4 - 6’7 is very tall, I’m not saying 6’4 is simultaneously tall and very tall. Rather, I mean that heights up to and not including 6’4 are in the tall range, while 6’4 itself and heights over 6’4 are very tall. I can see why it is confusing, but it’s easier to say 6’0 - 6’4 = tall and 6’4 - 6’7 = very tall than 6’0 - 6’3.99999999 = tall and 6’4 - 6’6.99999999 = very tall. Of course, 6’3.99999999 and 6’4 are, for all intents and purposes, identical. You just have to draw the line somewhere. That’s my logic, at least.

Arch Stanton said on 29/Dec/22
I think a strong 6 ft 3 will be considered very tall by 99% of the population, even guys like Chris Hemsworth and Sacha Baron Cohen on here at a flat 6'3 most people would call them very tall.. I think 6 ft 5 is the real cut off point between normal tall and unusually tall, 197cm would be the start of seriously tall, which you can also see be how many are 197cm on here compared to 6'3-6'4 range, much rarer. Guys like Wladimir and Howard Stern I'd start to classify as more unusual.

adrianposter said on 29/Dec/22
@Bobby
Your height chart makes no sense. Why do you say that 5'7 is "normal" short, but then call it "shortish?" Why do you lump that in with 5'9 but then call it average height? Why do you refer to 5'11 as average height but then call it tallish? Why do you call 6'1 tallish but then call it normal tall? Finally, why do you say 6'3 is normal tall but then call it very tall?

The whole chart makes no sense. You can't just define the same height in two categories. Like, is it logical to say that 5'11 is simultaneously average and tallish? Or that 5'9 is simultaneously shortish and average?

I recommend that you rethink your chart.


I think you lack context clues or rational thinking. Obviously I’m not gonna say “5’9-5’10.99999999” so I put two heights in one category as it would be difficult including every height any other way.

Peter 180cm said on 29/Dec/22
@ jokey If your eyelevel is really 5'7 you will probably look 5'11.5-6ft to people, let's say 1.82 for convenience. Do people guess you at 1.83-1.85 often? It would make sense.

Gian 181cm said on 29/Dec/22
I think @italianguy meant that 6'2 isn't very tall, apparently it was a mistake.

adrianjacobs said on 29/Dec/22
@Emil
If you'll scroll down to 20 dec on this page, you'll see that @Henrik, who is also from Sweden and says he is 187cm tall, said that "A woman once questioned that I was 6ft 1.75 and thought I was more of a 5ft 11 guy at most, perhaps even 5ft 9".
So no one is trolling, it's just the way swedes are.

Jdubbz said on 29/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm

Thank you for your kind words. I can see why anything in the 180 - 185cm range is desirable as it is above average to tall without any significant downsides. I also agree that many of the criteria that people use to determine whether a height is too tall or too short are overly generalizing in nature. Like you said, a typical example is that many people think that being above a certain height means you're too tall to put on a decent amount of muscle. While it is true that 5kg of muscle will almost always look less significant on a 195 cm man than on a 165cm or 175cm man, just due to the sheer difference in volume between the two, it's not like being above a certain height means you put on muscle at a slower rate. Plus, there are so many factors that affect the outcome such as hypertrophy genetics (as you mentioned), muscle insertions, limb length, frame size, workout intensity, diet, testosterone levels, etc. Plus, if a really tall guy were THAT determined to quickly put on some size, there are of course ways to assist with that process (don't want to get into specifics on this forum, but I assume you know what I'm talking about).

Wow, I'm surprised your height range is so broad. You sound like the kind of guy who can appreciate the benefits of a huge variety of heights, which is admirable. My range is much smaller. I wouldn't want to be shorter than 6'3 or taller than 6'8. Shorter than 6'3 because I've been 6'3+ since age 18, and have spent the entirety of my adult life above that height. Below 6'8, because while I do enjoy being tall, it has its limits and I wouldn't gain anything from being significantly over 200cm. I can see why you'd like to be 192cm. It's RIGHT on the line between tall and very tall, and height related issues are still somewhat minimal at that point. You clearly stand out (in a good way) without your height being one of your defining characteristics. I was that height for a while so I speak from experience. My country doesn't use the metric system so I preferred 6'4/193cm over 6'3.6/192cm, but it's not like there is a big difference between the two.

Alex 6'0 said on 29/Dec/22
Around guys 6'2-6'3 i dont feel much shorter. 6'4 plus thats when the difference becomes more substantial and nearer towering.

Honest5'11" said on 29/Dec/22
@Daniel Lee I'm a weak 5'11"/strong 5'10" (179.0-180.9 cm) and 170 pounds, I feel average weight for my height (have and athletic build, I'm slightly lean at 13% body fat).

Gian 181cm said on 29/Dec/22
@QM6'1.5"QM
6'0 and 6'3
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6’0.25 and 6’3
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what do you think of these examples? maybe the angle favored Ansel Elgort

5'11 1/4 and 6'2 1/4
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(good angle for the 5'11 1/4 guy)

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(good angle for the 6'2 1/4 guy)

3 inches of difference starts to feel short-ish but 4 inches definitely feels short.

Jdubbz said on 28/Dec/22
@Darksol64

Very well said. I agree that heights between 5’11 and 6’4 would all fall into that ideal height range. Although there is no perfect height, in my opinion the most universally appealing height for men (at least in western countries) would be somewhere in the 6’1 - 3 range. Let’s say 6’2 +/- half inch. I’m not going to be a hypocrite and say that’s THE ideal height, but I think it has the most benefits and fewest drawbacks, especially compared to heights under 6’0. At that height you’re legitimately tall, yet you don’t tower over everyone and absolutely dwarf most women. The height difference between me and a short woman looks comical, as if she could be my daughter. A lot of women also seem to be intimidated by really tall guys. At 6’1-3 you satisfy the “tall guy itch” that many women seem to have, yet you aren’t tall enough to intimidate the crap out of them. Not to mention the other benefits of being tall but not too tall. I wouldn’t trade my height for something in that range as I love being really tall, but objectively it’s a great place to be.

Rockaway said on 28/Dec/22
@adrianposter good list I agree

Emil said on 28/Dec/22
@Adrian

I believe you're 6'1, but I just find your anecdotes absurd. If anyone thinks you're 5'9, it's either because your posture is horrible or they're obviously trolling you.

Jdubbz said on 28/Dec/22
adrianposter said on 26/Dec/22
My own height chart for young US/UK men (Let me know if you guys agree)

Under 5’3 = Extremely Short
5’3-5’5 = Very Short
5’5-5’7 = Normal Short
5’7-5’9 = Shortish
5’9-5’11 = Average
5’11-6’1 = Tallish
6’1-6’3 = Normal Tall
6’3-6’5 = Very Tall
Over 6’5 = Extremely Tall

I agree with everything up to normal tall/very tall. If 6’1 is the start of normal tall (which I agree with), I think 6’3 is too low of a bar for very tall. Also, extremely tall is more like 6’7/200cm+. 6’5 is definitely very tall in the US/UK, but it’s too common of a height to be considered extremely tall. It’s also less than 3SD from a 5’10 average. I wouldn’t even consider myself to be extremely tall (a mm or two under 199cm evening height) let alone a guy 1.25” shorter. 6’4 - 6’7 or 6’4 - 6’6.75 (200cm exactly) is the very tall range, IMO. Everything else you wrote is pretty much spot on.

James Edward Crowley said on 28/Dec/22
Hi Rob i have mentioned this before on my Sims 3 game, I got one male sim who is 6ft 7in, and half Dutch, 6ft 7in is very tall for a Dutch man that height is a equivalent to 6ft 4in for men in the UK, and USA, 6ft 7in is much common height in Holland than it in than is in The UK,and USA since the average male height is 6ft 0in his wife is 5ft 7in full blooded Native American of Powhatan, and Cherokee ancestry the oldest daughter who is the shortest is going to be 5ft 8in as Young Adult the middle daughter is going to be 5ft 10in as a Young Adult, and the yougest daughter is going to be 6ft 0in as a Young Adult, Is it possible for a 5ft 7in woman, and a 6ft 7in man to have a daughter is going to be 6ft 0in as a Young Adult 6ft 0in is still a rare height for women.

Sandy Cowell said on 28/Dec/22
Both heights are tall to me! 🤣😹😂

adrianjacobs said on 28/Dec/22
@QM6'1.5"QM
Are you afraid of being called "not tall"?

Bobby said on 28/Dec/22
@rlheight5'11

That doesn't make C-Mo any less annoying, especially when he's going to keep talking about the same crap all the time.

Just imagine that I tell you something incredibly funny, and you laugh. Then I proceed to tell you the same joke every single day. It might draw an amused chuckle out of you each time, but eventually, you're going to get annoyed because you'll experience the law of diminishing returns. The law of diminishing returns posits that something that once induced significant results gradually loses its potency if continuously experienced. This is why the hypothetical joke I tell you will lose its potency because I repeated it so many times. That's why trends don't last forever. The law of diminishing returns is also related to desensitization, which is why horror movie fans find that watching the same scary movies all the time, no longer induces the same fear in them.

That's C-Mo and his persistent f-ing, "I think 180 cm is the ideal male height, now here's my dissertation on male proportions." Jesus age Christ, WE KNOW, so DROP IT. This is the last time I'm going to justify why I think he's irritating, so I hope you understand my reasoning now.

TLDR: C-Mo's comments are stale and unoriginal.

Bobby said on 28/Dec/22
@adrianposter

Your height chart makes no sense. Why do you say that 5'7 is "normal" short, but then call it "shortish?" Why do you lump that in with 5'9 but then call it average height? Why do you refer to 5'11 as average height but then call it tallish? Why do you call 6'1 tallish but then call it normal tall? Finally, why do you say 6'3 is normal tall but then call it very tall?

The whole chart makes no sense. You can't just define the same height in two categories. Like, is it logical to say that 5'11 is simultaneously average and tallish? Or that 5'9 is simultaneously shortish and average?

I recommend that you rethink your chart.

Jawilder said on 28/Dec/22
@Canson At a low on an average day I’m 6’0 5/8. Extreme activity will push me to 6’0.5. I can get 6’0 3/8 extreme low but that’s as low as I will ever go.

Gian 181cm said on 28/Dec/22
@ Jdubbz
Thanks for the reply, actually what I tried to say was a complement, you were clear and polite.
In my opinion 180cm/185cm/6'0 has a lot of social convention that it is an ideal height, I can't understand that there is a perfect height, this is very subjective, some may argue that too tall a height is harmful to build muscle, but what if the interlocutor of this objection does not care? or if he is 1.95m and has excellent genetics for muscular hypertrophy?
I would not want to be less than 5'8 and more than 6'7, they are heights arbitrarily chosen by me, 5'8 would still be the average in my country and above 6'7 I feel that I would have a lot of difficulty finding clothes, shoes, car seats, etc.
I would like to be 192cm but the height range I quoted earlier would be my minimum and maximum. That's my verdict on height range and "ideal" height.

Alex 6'0 said on 28/Dec/22
6'2 is generally pretty tall but nothing uncommon. Ill see 6'2 range guys daily. 6'3 range becomes bit more rare but 6'4 true start of a smaller % of guys.

Alex 6'0 said on 28/Dec/22
Canson, yea pretty much. And in person we were eye to eye. The 1/2 inch we couldn't notice. In the one back to back pic you can see the slight difference.

QM6'1.5"QM said on 28/Dec/22
Alex 6'0 said on 26/Dec/22

Yeah, a real 6'3" is definitely tower men of 5'9-5'11".
6'3" tall still noticeable taller than 6'1", but 6'0" ... it's very debatable because we have some decent examples like Chris Evans & Chris Hemsworth. In my eyes it's solid height difference between these two. Different skulls, eye level, shoulders etc.
But 6ft and 6'3" both are tall heights. Lowest and tallest end of this range.

This photo below (2015),182.5 vs 190:
Click Here

Black Noir said on 28/Dec/22
Hey rob do u think Stan walker is a strong 178.3 cm man or weak? Or is he 179 cm?

jokey said on 27/Dec/22
adrianjacobs said on 26/Dec/22
@Emil
I was measured by a doctor at the full 6'1, same thing or slightly less when I measure myself at home. I only say between 6ft and 6'1 because my eye level is 171-171.5cm. Any questions?

it's quite strange that you have an almost 6 inches eye level at 6'1.

@Rob is it possible to have it this low?

jokey said on 27/Dec/22
Peter 180cm said on 26/Dec/22
@ jokey My eyelevel is probably around 168,give or take half a cm depending on time of day and activity level (i drop down to a little over 179 at my lowest).My head size is probably 23.5cm i guess,but i meant big because it's rather wide and oval-shaped.

we have similiar measurements, except for the eye level. Mine is 5'7, i'm bang on 5'11 during the day and just under it at night.

TL said on 27/Dec/22
Hi Rob what do you think the heel height of these are? Click Here

rlheight5'11 said on 27/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
Enjoyed themselves 😏
My Christmas was quiet, I do not feel like it's Christmas anymore.

Poster said on 27/Dec/22
I don't believe in height and weight charts because they don't account for frames and muscles. A female athlete often weighs more than an "ordinary" female at the same height. I also think that the weights are too high for short girls. I think that an "ordinary" 5'0 girl should weigh a hundred pounds, and add five pounds for each additional inch.

Emil said on 27/Dec/22
@Adrian

I believe you're 6'1, but I find it silly that most people would guess you to be 5'9, I mean wtf.

Caleb 178.7cm said on 27/Dec/22
Click Here

How tall is this Chinese girl? 183-184cm?

Jdubbz said on 27/Dec/22
SD172 said on 26/Dec/22
Objectively speaking a man who's at least 6'0 feet tall and weighs over 90kgs/200lbs(i.e. isn't rail-thin), is a BIG MAN.
At 6'0 tall you are taller than 88% of the human population...Imagine a room of a hundred people and only 12 are taller than you.

Rail thin for 6'0 would be under 150 lbs. 200 lbs is very much on the larger side for that height. Also, your numbers don't make sense when applied to most Western countries (where most people who post on CH live). 6'0 is on the taller side of average, but it's generally closer to 80th percentile than 88th. Looking at younger men, it's more like 75th percentile.

Also, there is a huge difference between being 2-3" taller than average (which 6'0 is) and towering over them. I would agree with the poster who said that 6'4 is the start of towering height. 6'0 is above average to tall (depending on your location and opinion), but not a towering height unless you're only around short guys and women.

Jdubbz said on 27/Dec/22
Peter 180cm said on 26/Dec/22
I appreciate your replies but from my perspective 187-188 is not really that much taller than average. I can see that almost every day(except when I'm not going out of home). I can also measure that height if i stand on my tip toes and it definitely feels much different but still not as towering as people think.

You're entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't make much sense. 6'2 is well over the 90th percentile of height in most Western countries and over 3" taller than you. You would be looking below a legit 6'2 guy's mouth. In a previous comment you state that you rarely feel average or below average (implying you're above average), yet you consider a height 8cm above your own to be merely above average? The logic doesn't make any sense. 6'2 is a full standard deviation (actually a bit more) taller than your height. I think you are downplaying the difference a bit.

KD92 said on 27/Dec/22
I measure 177.34 at 19.00 PM can I claim 5ft10

Jawilder said on 27/Dec/22
6’2 is a legit tall height. 6’3 you are pretty much the tallest guy in a room most the time. 6’2-6’3 is the point where you start getting comments on your height.

(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 27/Dec/22
180cm isn’t perfect, as you will feel shortish if your friends/family are mostly over 6ft… it’s still a lovely height though and no one can tell you it isn’t.. I’m a weak 6ft and am one of the shortest in my family so it all depends who you grew up with etc… The Uk is a pretty short country really, even though my eye level is only 5ft 6 at night (10 inch head) I’ll still feel fairly tall most of the time amongst the population

AverageSlovene said on 27/Dec/22
@Daniel Lee
No way its small, i have 170lbs and i am 184/5 cm.

Jdubbz said on 27/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm:

Sorry if my previous comment sounded insensitive, as I do truly believe that 180cm is a good height, and in metric countries it's definitely in the ideal height range (180 - 190cm?). That is a good point you brought up. I just always disagree when people say x height is THE ideal height, because it's such a subjective thing. Peter's comment for example could apply to any height between 5'10 and 6'2, so I don't know what makes 180cm the ideal height when you get the same benefits (or more) at 181cm, 182cm, 187cm, 188cm, etc. Obviously I'm not including my own height in that range as many guys would not want to be over 193cm, but I don't get what makes 180cm so special. I haven't been that height since I was 13-14, so perhaps I just cannot relate.

Happy holidays to you as well. I hope you have a great vacation.

adrianposter said on 26/Dec/22
My own height chart for young US/UK men (Let me know if you guys agree)

Under 5’3 = Extremely Short
5’3-5’5 = Very Short
5’5-5’7 = Normal Short
5’7-5’9 = Shortish
5’9-5’11 = Average
5’11-6’1 = Tallish
6’1-6’3 = Normal Tall
6’3-6’5 = Very Tall
Over 6’5 = Extremely Tall

Meltdown said on 26/Dec/22
@ Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 16/Dec/22

California is a short state? HA! What do you know about California? Since the 1930s it has attracted the many of the taller people throughout the world to be actors and models and heads of companies (males 6'0" to 6'3" and females 5'9" to 5'11". I have lived in LA for well over 15 yrs and I can tell you that aside from the first generation immigrants, the population is at least 1.5 inches taller than the 5ft 9.5 average we are told. I see women over 6 feet every day. Some look over my head in normal shoes and I'm 5'10 1/2"+ in sneakers. Come to LA for a few weeks and walk around in shopping malls and street fairs. You will see what I mean.

Meltdown said on 26/Dec/22
@ dreus23 said on 16/Dec/22

There's a few ways to do it. Since I am male, the two most common are:

Father's height + mother's height + 2.5 in/1 cm = son's height

OR simply add 5 to 5.5 inches to the mother's height and then average it with the father

Either way, I should have been closer to 5'7" and managed a solid morning height of 5'10" (178 cm). Yes, I definitely pulled height from my mother's mother's father who I am told was 6 feet in his youth (around the 1930s). My mother's father was 5'8" and my 3 generation paternal line was 5'3", 5'7", and 5'3". Also my father's mother was 5'0" in youth (now 4'9" at most) and her parents in youth were only 5'4" and 4'11". Short for their day, and tiny for ours.

If I could time travel like 80–100 years, I would be the equivalent to at least 6'4" to them. Funny to consider, seeing that I am merely average by statistics at best. Whatever! I did very good considering.

Rockaway said on 26/Dec/22
6’3.5“ is the start of very tall IMO. I’m a solid 6 ft and start to feel a little short around anyone that height or taller. 6’2 is noticeable that they are taller than me but doesn’t feel like that large of a difference. Not sure I personally would ever want to be taller than 6’2.5”

Darksol64 said on 26/Dec/22
Agree with jdubbz.

There is no single number you can put out as an ideal height. Now an ideal range? Sure. I'd say if you surveyed a bunch of girls to look at a lineup of guys and they were told their heights I would bet you'd find that the ideal range for attractive height would be between 5'11 and 6'4.

A legit bedtime 5'11 is noticeably taller than average and looks great. On the other end a proportional 6'4 can look equally great; with the added benefit of being much more imposing as he will nearly tower the 5'11 guy.

It's not a huge benefit over guys shorter/taller than this range, but I bet it gives you a slight edge.

rlheight5'11 said on 26/Dec/22
@Bobby
You should be used to C-Mo, don't you think? I mean, it's not as if he's new to commenting.

Canson said on 26/Dec/22
@Alex: so In essence, you’d be a solid 6 at a low and Jawilder is probably 6’0 1/2” at a low?

Progking185 said on 26/Dec/22
@Viper 6'2 can be quite common it depends, generally though still pretty tall. I find in places such as in some stores in my small town, 6'1-6'4 is the regular tall range where it looks tall but still fairly common, while other places that range can be the few tallest around. In some stores ive been the tallest at 6'0.5 until a 6'3+ guy comes in. 6'0 is pretty tall in general but won't feel tall all the time, with young guys around 5'10 average.

SD172 said on 26/Dec/22
Objectively speaking a man who's at least 6'0 feet tall and weighs over 90kgs/200lbs(i.e. isn't rail-thin), is a BIG MAN.
At 6'0 tall you are taller than 88% of the human population...Imagine a room of a hundred people and only 12 are taller than you.
Here are some examples:

Triple H who was around 6'2 hosted Mr.Olympia back in 2004, and he looked bigger than all the bodybuilders (including Jay Culter who's 5'9, and Ronnie Coleman who's 5'10) despite wearing a baggy suit that was primarily due to the fact he was over 6'0 tall here's the video: Click Here

Henry Cavill who's around 6'1 looks absolutely massive in this picture next to the cameraman: Click Here

Chris Evans who's 6'0 towers over Joe Russo who's 5'7 granted Chris Evans is much closer to the camera:
Click Here

Okay looking at professional wrestlers and actors who portray larger-than-life superheroes isn't the best.
Let's look at Spiderman actors cause Spiderman is an everyman superhero:Click Here
Andrew Garfield who's 5'10 and a half(which is the average height in some WEST European nations)is visibly taller than Tobey Maguire who's around 5'8 and Tom Holland who's 5'6 and a half, both heights are average height for men in certain nations.

The idea that you have to be around 6'4 to be towering is strange statistically speaking of course.
@Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 25/Dec/22
is 170 lbs small for a 5'8 guy?

As a 5'8 guy, it depends on your frame and body fat percentage, I'd like to get down to around 167-170lbs in 2023

Clockwork said on 26/Dec/22
Hey Rob,

How tall do you think the guy is next to Luma Grothe who you have at 171.5 cm? His agency says 185 but it seems to be unlikely.

Click Here=

Alex 6'0 said on 26/Dec/22
6'3 will tower average men 5'9-5'10 range. Won't tower a guy 6'0-6'1

adrianjacobs said on 26/Dec/22
@Emil
I was measured by a doctor at the full 6'1, same thing or slightly less when I measure myself at home. I only say between 6ft and 6'1 because my eye level is 171-171.5cm. Any questions?

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 26/Dec/22
@Henrik

A 6'3 guy and 5'10 girl will tower over their respective genders.

Gian 181cm said on 26/Dec/22
Jdubbz
If you are talking specifically about the US/UK yes 6'0-6'3 is the ideal range as countries that don't use the imperial system would not mind these heights in that format so I would include 180cm in the desired height range in countries who do not use the imperial system.
By the way, I don't even consider it a question of being far from the average in this regard, but because of the fact that it seems "far from the average"
17xcm to 18xcm
5'x ft to 6'x ft

By the way, merry Christmas to you and everyone at CH, I'm on vacation because it's summer here so I'm coming in less than usual.

Peter 180cm said on 26/Dec/22
@ jokey My eyelevel is probably around 168,give or take half a cm depending on time of day and activity level (i drop down to a little over 179 at my lowest).My head size is probably 23.5cm i guess,but i meant big because it's rather wide and oval-shaped.

Peter 180cm said on 26/Dec/22
I appreciate your replies but from my perspective 187-188 is not really that much taller than average. I can see that almost every day(except when I'm not going out of home). I can also measure that height if i stand on my tip toes and it definitely feels much different but still not as towering as people think.

George89 said on 26/Dec/22
@Daniel Lee I'm 163lbs at 174-172.3cm and I definitely don't feel small at this weight for my height. I occasionally get comments on being well built. I've got a little bit of fat but mostly muscle.

Henrik said on 26/Dec/22
Towering height starts at 6ft 4 for guys and 5ft 11 for girls.

AK World said on 26/Dec/22
Hello @Rob,

How tall do you think Zachary Gordon (played Greg from Diary of a Wimpy Kid) is? Here's him with 5ft 6.75 Robert Capron.
Click Here

Jdubbz said on 26/Dec/22
Canson said on 23/Dec/22
@Jdubbz and Bobby: I’ve seen much worse than Avi here with doing that. There was a bad poster who was banned and who was 6’2 and a bit they thought he was too tall and claimed that anyone over a certain height was doomed. You all probably know who I’m referring to (El Barto Longsleeve was one of his many aliases)

I'm not familiar with El Barto Longsleeve, but I think I know who you're talking about. Did his name start with W and end with 189?

AK World said on 26/Dec/22
@Daniel Lee 173 cm

170 for a 5'8" guy definitely isn't anywhere near small, it's pretty normal for 5'8".

jokey said on 25/Dec/22
Peter 180cm said on 25/Dec/22
@ Honest5'11 You're about half a cm taller than me and our guesses are pretty similar. Most people guess me either 180-181 or 183 as well. On "lazy" days i can maintain 180cm even after several hours, although i may look slightly taller due to my head size and long neck.

whats your eye level and your head size?

viper said on 25/Dec/22
Peter, you're wrong on 6-2. Its pretty tall and you don't see it all that much.

I'm 6-3 and I seem to tower over most

rlheight5'11 said on 25/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
I hope you and Jenny had a nice Christmas (day) 🎅🙂

Poster said on 25/Dec/22
@Bobby: Ha! There are a lot of contradictions, in the same sentence, posted here. You see comments like "not many women are taller than 5'5, and you see many girls and women taller than that every day". What? My other pet peeve is seeing walls of text about boring and mundane things like morning height and quarter inches. The dullest posts tend to be the longest posts. Of course, I almost always post about female height, so I can't throw too many stones. Maybe C-Mo will post a dissertation about female height next.

Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 25/Dec/22
is 170 lbs small for a 5'8 guy?

Black Noir said on 25/Dec/22
Peter 180cm
You’re coping if you don’t think 6’2 is tall, that’s taller than 95% of the human population, it’s still in the high percentile of heights even amongst youth. Pretty sure the average height for a man from 20-30 is 5’9 or 5’10.

Jawilder said on 25/Dec/22
Yeah I had been up since 6 am had maybe 2-3 hours of sleep passed out on a bathroom floor after clubbing, let’s not talk about it actually 🤣. By the time me and Alex had walked around I was bordering extreme low. We both said we felt super similar when we met. Alex guessed me at 6’1 and he wasn’t far off me either at all.

QM6'1.5"QM said on 25/Dec/22
Peter 180cm said on 25/Dec/22

You have to know that a real 6'2" man wakes up at 190-190.5cms. You're more than tall enough.
90% (93?!) of men will never reach this height!
You're already about 2.5 inches taller than average in the Netherlands.
From my perspective every 1/4" over 6'2" making you more standout, marked and really tall!
Yes of course, 6'2" is not a determination of "very tall", but "very tall" it's still about ~6'4".

Maahin Chowdhury said on 25/Dec/22
@Peter 180cm

My mate is around 6’2 and I can feel shortish at times next to him, my eyes come up to his lips. But yea I do agree that 6’2 isn’t very tall, is just a solid tall height. I think very tall starts somewhere between 6’3-6’4.

Jdubbz said on 25/Dec/22
Peter 180cm said on 25/Dec/22
C-mo may be right about saying 1.80 is the ideal height. Great for dating, clothing,most sports,everyday life in general. Looks 6 feet to most people and it's every man's "dream" when he is shorter than 1.75 because it's right in the cusp of average and tall.

Nah. 180cm is a good height, but ideal for most men seems to be in the 6’0-3 range, so perhaps 186 - 187cm. 180cm is a bit too close to average height to be considered ideal, IMO. If saying “looks 6 feet” is a perk, then wouldn’t 183cm itself be slightly more ideal? It’s not like those 3cm introduce any problems.

Bobby said on 25/Dec/22
@Peter 180 cm

The problem isn't the declaration itself since ideal height is subjective. The issue is that he keeps talking about 180 cm being the ideal height. It's obsessive and obnoxious. If you asked me, I think the ideal height for men is 6ft because it has all the benefits of being average height, but has the advantage of being considered tall everywhere you go. I like being able to blend in, which is why I love being 5'10, but if I were 6ft tall, it wouldn't be a big adjustment for me.

Progking185 said on 25/Dec/22
@Peter180 yeah 6'3-6'4 is more very tall. Around 6'2 looks tall for sure but not standing out much from a crowd. 6'4 is 6-7 inches taller than average which is quite significant so I think its definitely very tall most places

Peter 180cm said on 25/Dec/22
C-mo may be right about saying 1.80 is the ideal height. Great for dating, clothing,most sports,everyday life in general. Looks 6 feet to most people and it's every man's "dream" when he is shorter than 1.75 because it's right in the cusp of average and tall. I've never been considered short and rarely felt just average. But yeah, C-mo's obsession with something he cannot change naturally is repetitive.

Peter 180cm said on 25/Dec/22
@ Honest5'11 You're about half a cm taller than me and our guesses are pretty similar. Most people guess me either 180-181 or 183 as well. On "lazy" days i can maintain 180cm even after several hours, although i may look slightly taller due to my head size and long neck.

Honest5'11" said on 25/Dec/22
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 I've been guessed at 5'10", 5'11" and 6'0". I'm 180.0-180.2 cm after a few hours awake. Most people are suprisingly accurate or they add an inch to their height so they think I'm taller.

Peter 180cm said on 25/Dec/22
6'2 is not very tall. It's just taller than people think and noticeably taller than the average person. I don't feel dwarfed next to a height like that,for reference i have a wardrobe exactly 187cms tall or roughly 6'1.75 and sometimes think im pretty close to it from a bigger distance (couple of meters or a little more).190-191+ is where it really starts to stand out alot in my opinion.

Black Noir said on 24/Dec/22
Hey Rob I know I already asked but do u think Stan walker is more 179 cm or ?

AK World said on 24/Dec/22
Hello @Rob,

How tall does Kai Cenat look next to the tape measure?
Click Here

QM6'1.5"QM said on 24/Dec/22
Canson said on 23/Dec/22

It's only my opinion, but i think a real 6'2" is a bit very tall, this isn't my point or mantra, but 6'2"= 70% is tall, 20% is very tall, 5-10%= above average, "not tall" and other...
This height is not like yours or 6'5" guys or Jdubbz, but the average men and people are nowhere near to this tall (barefeet of course).
I'm generally 1/4" (6'1 5/8" in the evening) under 6'2" and if i could be legit 6'2"range then it's def making myself very solid tall or like "low very tall" or something like that, lol, because I've always seen 6'1"range as solid tall or classic tall.

Bobby said on 24/Dec/22
@Poster

I don't read every post he writes, but every time I come on to see what's new, I see his username glaring at me with the same content as before, "I think 180 cm is the ideal male height after thinking about it long and hard." Then he launches ad verbatim to this lengthy dissertation about proportions.

Then he comes back again to write the same crap. It bothers me so much because it's all he writes about. After that, he dares to downplay five-and-a-quarter inches, and he contradicts himself by noting the difference is significant but not huge. The two words are synonyms of each other.

Yes, I never took a blood oath to read everything he writes, but that doesn't mean I can't tell him he's being an obnoxious, obsessed cretin.

Crypto139 said on 24/Dec/22
Oh I think quality of sleep makes a difference too. I slept for over 8 hours for once and woke up at 8:40. Measured a tiny bit after 11:00 so near 2 and a half hours. Bang on 173.

Emil said on 24/Dec/22
Alex 6'0 said on 22/Dec/22
Gian, ive had guys 6'4-6'5 still consider me tall as well

@Alex

I have as well. I think guys at that height are just so used to towering everyone, so when they see someone within their eye level's reach, they consider you tall

Alex 6'0 said on 24/Dec/22
Canson, also when i met Jawilder in July we measured 6'0 5/8 and 6'0 1/8 at about 1pm. We couldn't even tell the 1/2 and most probably couldn't either on the street. The back to back shot you could see it but still looked pretty close

Alex 6'0 said on 24/Dec/22
Canson, i do agree totally if someone falls at X height and 1/4 normal low they can claim either one. At that point a 1/2 inch nobody gonna notice lol.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 24/Dec/22
No one's ever guessed me shorter than I am. No one's even guessed me the height I am, always taller. 90% of the time I'm guessed at 5'10 and 10% I get 5'11 guesses.

Canson said on 23/Dec/22
@Jdubbz and Bobby: I’ve seen much worse than Avi here with doing that. There was a bad poster who was banned and who was 6’2 and a bit they thought he was too tall and claimed that anyone over a certain height was doomed. You all probably know who I’m referring to (El Barto Longsleeve was one of his many aliases)

Canson said on 23/Dec/22
@Bobby: I agree with you that C-Mo is unhappy with his height. I’ve seen other comments where he encourages people to claim a middle ground etc or round even when they are content with say a 5’10 1/2 claim if they are 5’10.6”. I witnessed him get demonstrative and tell someone they are 5’11 when they were 5’10 2/3 at a low. Not saying they can’t claim 5’11 but why can’t he claim 5’10 1/2”? That’s the same as me rounding down to 6’4 from 6’4.25” when he insists I’m 6’4 1/2”. Sure I can clsim 6’4 1/2 but I can also claim 6’4”. I think he writes rules for others to align with his principles to rationalize his own height. He got upset with Greg before because he considered him 5’9 when he’s 5’9.2-.3. Now Greg May have exhibited a bit of a double standard since he rounded his own height to 5’11 but C-Mo getting upset was because he wants to feel taller. C-Mo has every right to claim 5’9 1/2 but he was obsessed about it. If Greg hadn’t done the opposite with his own height, he’d have had a very valid case. And I remember C-Mo getting excited about having gained a small fraction here. That doesn’t change the perception of him from a view of him. He will still look what he looked before unless he changes footwear to give a slight boost

I don’t write rules but logic has to be in order

In your case it’s open/shut since you’re 5’9.75 at a low and 5’9 7/8 at lunch where Rob lists people here. You’re essentially going to get a 5’10 listing here or 5’9.75 worst case depending on when he saw you. But either way it rounds to 5’10”. You’re too tall to claim 5’9” and I wouldn’t even advise it

For someone like Jdubbz or me, we could claim 6’6/6’4 or 6’6.5/6’4.5”. Either or works but it’s primarily preference based. When you have taller friends like me, I don’t see the point and they claim their lows mostly. So I have a 6’2.75 at a low friend who was 6’3 peak and claims 6’3 still which is fair and a 6’5.25 friend at a low who claims 6’5 then one who is 6’6 at his low. So I claim 6’4”. Fact of the matter is that if I claim 6’4 1/2 or 6’4 it will not make a difference and the half isn’t necessary for me or Jdubbz. Christian claimed the half but it’s because he’s closer to it than we are and that’s a full centimeter above 6’5” which is where it gets to be noticeable.

Emil said on 23/Dec/22
@Adrian

You're getting guessed 175 cm when you're 184 cm? Sounds like you're spewing tall tales, m8

FiveNine said on 23/Dec/22
@Jdubbz — Both Avi and Connor were about 6ft in the evening and insisted on being
listed as 5’11+ … Research indicates there are some dudes out there who really do not
like being called a 6footer … Definitely is different from the norm
Jdubbz said on 22/Dec/22
In Avi’s case, you’re spot on. Someone mentioning the disadvantages of being very tall is fine with me.

rlheight5'11 said on 23/Dec/22
@Sandy Cowell
Nearly Christmas 🎄🎁

rlheight5'11 said on 23/Dec/22
Rob said on 16/Dec/22
I figured out why she liked watching Youtube on the Computer...I have adblock on, and the TV has ads at which she screams at me to 'skip'.
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YouTube show so many ads nowadays anyway and It's funny that she doesn't like TV ads. Just goes to show children pick up on things quickly.

Jawilder said on 23/Dec/22
I will never complain about my height. However, if I was 6’3-6’4 I’m sure I wouldn’t wanna go back down to my actual height.

Alex 6'0 said on 22/Dec/22
Gian, ive had guys 6'4-6'5 still consider me tall as well

Poster said on 22/Dec/22
@Bobby: You can just scroll through C-Mo's posts if they bother you so much. As far as I know, you didn't take a blood oath to read all of them. I just scan and skim on this board because many comments and subjects bore me, especially the repetitive dissertations that turn into walls of text over something like morning heights. I concentrate on the posts that interest me on the rare occasions that I find them.

Jdubbz said on 22/Dec/22
@Bobby:

Regarding C-mo, I definitely get where you’re coming from. Of course it’s ok for people to have their ideal height, but constantly repeating it, especially when much of the justification is highly subjective in nature, gets old quickly. My ideal height is around 6’5, but I’d never just constantly make posts about that because 1) that would sound absolutely insane to the average guy here, 2) while it’s a fantastic height for me, it’s objectively NOT ideal for the vast majority of people, and 3) Who cares about my highly subjective and biased opinion enough to tolerate repeated posts about that? Probably no one here.

In Avi’s case, you’re spot on. Someone mentioning the disadvantages of being very tall is fine with me. I’m not delusional enough to think that it’s all roses and sunshine. But when that person focuses on those negatives to the point that it’s almost all they post about, and do it constantly, that’s when it really starts to irritate me. Especially when they never once mention the upsides and exclusively focus on the downsides. It would be bad enough for a tall or very tall guy to do it, but it’s so much worse coming from a guy like Avi, because he truly has no experience to back up his opinions. The type of person who does that sort of thing is almost always immensely insecure about his/her height.

Peter 180cm said on 22/Dec/22
@ Maahin Chowdhury He's probably somewhere between 176-178 given that people guess him 175. Worst case scenario you're going to look 2-3cm shorter because of bad posture/maybe flat shoes. But yeah,an 184 guy with good posture and decent footwear is gonna look atleast 185 to the average person,if not 186.

Progking185 said on 22/Dec/22
@Gian181 yeah I can look 185-186, 1 cm isn't much difference

chad michaels said on 22/Dec/22
@Rob, how much do you think these shoes add?
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Alex 6'0 said on 22/Dec/22
6'0.5 getting tting guessed 5'9 thats insane. 90% time people will be guessed taller than they really are and if its shorter its within an inch less. I typically get 6'1-6'2 guesses. Occasionally my actual height. If ever guessed less its 5'11 and thats rare. Only once got an adsurd 5'8 guess.

Black Noir said on 22/Dec/22
You know what’s funny rob I bn waiting for u to answer haha mate thank you, u just gave one of our biggest celebrity a height! Cheers

Gian 181cm said on 21/Dec/22
@Progking184
Yeah, my barber is 6'4 and he was one of the few guys who made that comment considering me kinda tall.
6'0.5 isn't short close to 6'4 but starts to get above that in my opinion, however as heights of 6'4+ are relatively uncommon a strong 6'0.5 will look tall in most cases. places and will probably give an impression of 185cm at times.

Black Noir said on 21/Dec/22
Hey rob how tall do u think nz singer Stan walker is? For years I’ve tried finding or seeing celebrities that have a pic with him,

Bobby said on 21/Dec/22
@Jdubbz

I have a pet peeve concerning people who constantly repeat themselves. C-Mo has been talking about the ideal male height for at least five years now, and probably longer if he was here before I was. How is he not sick of rehashing the same topic all the time? The obsession behind this screams insecurity and toxicity. The former is because he's dissatisfied with his height on some level, and the latter is because he's unintentionally insulting people who are not that ideal height.

As for that Avi guy, I know the person you're talking about. If I was very tall, I would find Avi just as irritating. Although, I know others have brought up what they perceive as drawbacks of being very tall. I don't mind people who have opinions, but repeating opinions get stale.

Maahin Chowdhury said on 21/Dec/22
@Peter 180cm

I’m about as tall as you and I usually get guessed anywhere between 5’10-6’0. A 6’0.5 person being guessed at 5’9 is just bs.

rlheight5'11 said on 21/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
You get up way too early Imo and yeah your daily routine sounds too much. Perhaps it is necessary to you, from your perspective.

rlheight5'11 said on 21/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
That's a lot of layers but it is needed for bitterly cold weather especially fleecy clothing. I've noticed people with snood scarves on very cold mornings.

Jdubbz said on 21/Dec/22
@Honest5'11:

Lol, that’s what I’m thinking as well. A supposedly 184cm guy claiming that other people constantly guess him at 175cm and that other supposed 6’1-2 guys purposely downgrade themselves to 180cm? To top it all off, he feels below average at “184cm”? I wonder what’s more likely. Everyone else downgrading him and themselves, or that he’s shorter than he thinks he is (by a significant margin) and is upgrading everyone else to compensate. I’m going with the latter. Sweden is a pretty tall country, but not tall enough that a strong 6 footer would consistently feel below average. It ain’t the Netherlands.

adrianjacobs said on 21/Dec/22
@Henrik
You don't come across as a "medium-sized persona". It's just swedes being swedes. I honestly would have known that woman was from Sweden even if you wouldn't have told me.

Honest5'11" said on 21/Dec/22
Average for younger non shrinking Swedes (20s-40s) is a weak 5'11" and for females a weak 5'6".

Alex 6'0 said on 21/Dec/22
Vick, i really don't check my height much but possibly can hit that after full day of work plus gym. Last i got 5'11 7/8 post gym and work

Harold Green said on 21/Dec/22
Hi Rob,

Did you watch the FIFA World Cup before and how was the outcome for this match? For me personally, I was rooting for France to win but Argentina has beaten them in the penalties. I would say it was an amazing match and it was a really close match. Aside from the outcome of the FIFA World Cup, I would like to talk about this Argentina Player name Angel Di Maria who is a midfielder. There has been a mix of online sources that bills his height as either 5’10 or 5’11 (well most of them are 5’11). There are some photos I’ve seen where Angel is a bit taller than Mbappe but also a bit shorter than Mbappe and it does get really confusing on whether which one shows an accurate estimation. Angel does look around 3 inches taller than Neymar whom you’ve listed at 5’8 and also 4-5 inches taller than Messi whom is listed at 5’6.5. If I was to give my estimate on Angel Di Maria’s height, I would say he is definitely between 5’10-5’11 for afternoon height but I could say maybe 5’10.5 could be accurate for him. I would love to hear your thoughts on Angel Di Maria’s height whether you believe he is 5’10 or 5’11 range and if there are any other sources that you can find that matches well with his true accurate height, that would be great to share as well. I will provide some photos.

With Lionel Messi:
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With Mbappe:
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With Neymar:
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Peter 180cm said on 21/Dec/22
@ QM6'1.5QM It's not impossible, it's just unusual. Once you get past 1.80 people actually struggle to guess accurately because they have to look UP to you while you're looking down mostly and that's confusing to some.

Peter 180cm said on 21/Dec/22
@ adrianjacons So you're basically 1.84 and have been guessed as low as 1.75? That doesn't make any sense at all. The shortest I've heard is 1.76 by a guy 8-10cm shorter than me. Maybe you really need to remeasure yourself properly imo.

Big Ben said on 21/Dec/22
Hello Rob. My teacher claims 197.5 cm, what do you think? I'm in the middle in the blue jacket and he's on your far right.

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Rockaway said on 20/Dec/22
6’0 - 6’1 getting guessed at 175cm? That doesn’t really make sense. Feeling below average also strikes me as odd. Average, I can see - for Sweden

Progking184 said on 20/Dec/22
@Gian181 yeah 5'11 range tends to look a bit above average even for young guys. I think to 6'4 guys 6'0+ generally would still look quite tall. Strong 6'0 would be a bit above their eyebrow. Some 6'2-6'3 guys thought I was around their height at first lol and I'm 6'0.5

Jdubbz said on 20/Dec/22
@Peter 180cm:

I agree, he’s likely closer to 175cm than 6’0. A lot of people who think the average is way higher than it really is (I believe he’s the one who thinks it is 6’1+ in Sweden, unless I’m mistaken), are shorter than they think they are. There is no way that he’s constantly guessed 7cm shorter than he really is. People aren’t THAT bad with height.

Jdubbz said on 20/Dec/22
@Bobby:

I feel you Bobby. C-mo doesn’t bother me, but I can understand how that would get annoying after a while. The only (unbanned) CH poster who really irritates me is that Avi guy, who has to post about how being very tall is so horrible at least a few times a year. He always vanishes when when I call him out and returns a few months later to do the same thing. Some people just don’t know how or when to keep their unwanted opinions to themselves, I suppose:

QM6'1.5"QM said on 20/Dec/22
Peter 180cm said on 19/Dec/22

Yes of course, Peter. The same with me.
Honestly, Adrian is sounds very confusing.
Back then at 6'1"flat i been guessed like 6'3" by 5 or 6times.
Tallest I've heard about me was over 6'3".
I just don't believe how real 6ft tall guy (normal body and straight spine) could be guessed at "175cms" ... It's impossible!!!

adrianjacobs said on 20/Dec/22
@Peter 180cm
It's usually the other way around in other countries than Sweden. That's what I was saying in my previous comment. People over here mostly underestimate height instead of overestimating like in America for example. I've been guessed as 190cm by relatives from an other country.
I'm also a pretty ugly and weird looking guy, which I think makes the "short impression" even stronger. Swedes are pretty shallow and unfriendly people if you actually get to know them, and I think that plays a role too.
I was measured at 6'1 by a doctor and it's only when I measure myself that it seems to be between 6ft and 6'1.

Henrik said on 20/Dec/22
@Jdubbz

6ft 7 (2 meters) would be seen as very tall or huge for sure, but not freak height or abnormal. I have distant family of that height myself. The brother of my cousin's wife is that tall (and their son seems to be taking after it, he was called huge when he was two). My 6ft 3.5 maternal uncle also told me that he wasn't the largest in my mom's side of the family, apparently. But being that tall isn't so common as you'll be guaranteed to see it in every environment, IMO.

6ft 5 can (196cm) also be seen as huge (my friend has been called The Hulk, but he's also largely built, though I'm sure his height contributed to it as well), while it's a bit more common to see.

Honest5'11" said on 20/Dec/22
@adrianjacobs LOL it looks like you're upgrading everyone to a taller height in order for the swedish average to be taller. It's probably 5'10.5"-5'11" or 179 cm - 180 cm like most of Scandinavia.

Henrik said on 20/Dec/22
@adrianjacobs

I live in central-east Sweden, but not in Stockholm. I feel kind of small next to 6ft 5 guys. Actually, I can even feel small next to my 6ft 3.5 (192cm) uncle. Guys who are steadily into the 190cms (6ft 3-5) I'm pretty used to.

A woman once questioned that I was 6ft 1.75 and thought I was more of a 5ft 11 guy at most, perhaps even 5ft 9. Maybe I come across as more of a medium-sized persona. But some people are quite bad at estimating height.

Vick said on 19/Dec/22
@Alex-How often do you get to 5’11.75 as a low? For me it’s 6 hours of sleep and walking all day

Gian 181cm said on 19/Dec/22
I feel short next to a person when my eyes are looking at the person's mouth, so in my case it would be somewhere around 6'3, but I can feel short-ish next to guys 6'2- 6'2.5 .
Ironically, I've been considered tall-ish by 6'3.5 - 6'4 guys, maybe because I can at least stand at eye level with them.

Bobby said on 19/Dec/22
@Jdubbz

It's not your fault. I've been secretly harbouring these feelings about C-Mo for a while now. It has become extremely tiresome. "Hey, everybody, I think the ideal height for a man is 180 cm because it's not too tall and not too short. Is anyone listening to me!?" It's how he acts any time he brings it up, again and again, and again. It's irritating. The first time he talked about it was interesting and perhaps a couple of other times after that, but now he sounds like a broken record.

Not to mention, he contradicted himself by downplaying five and a quarter inches when he said "it's a significant difference, but it's not huge." Significant means huge!

@Canson

I hear you. I'm done now. I just had to get all this off my chest because C-Mo has become an irksome presence on the forum now.

Peter 180cm said on 19/Dec/22
@Maskdemasque That's definitely not an anomaly. I live in an island and i see 175-180cm women very rarely so it really depends on the population of each area.

Peter 180cm said on 19/Dec/22
@adrianjacons You're probably not 6ft range if people guess you 175 often. It's usually the other way around. I'm 180 and the shortest I've been guessed is 178. 180-182 is what i get mostly and sometimes 184-185 which is definitely not the case.

Alex 6'0 said on 19/Dec/22
Jdubzz, yea i typically think of 12 noon for lunchtime height which is typically close to your normal low anyone but sometimes is your low if you're physical earlier in day. Depending on the day and activity i can fluctuate 1/4 inch at lunchtime

dreus23 said on 18/Dec/22
@Maahin Chowdhury

That's interesting, but it really just has to do with better nutrition unless there's other family genes contributing to a taller stature. For example, one of my friends has always been a tall lanky guy. 6'0 in 8th or 9th grade, 6'1 at 16-17, and will more than likely reach 6'2 when he's fully grown. His dad is like 5'9 and his mom like 5'4 if that. However, his maternal grandfather was a solid 6'3, so that's where he got the tall genes from. People just don't mysteriously get taller than what their genes allow them to get; those height genes have to come from somewhere

Bobby said on 18/Dec/22
@c-mo 176 cm

Listen, C-Mo, I have been silently putting up with your nonsense for years. For someone who thinks his height is decent, you spend an inordinate amount of time BSing about what you think is the ideal height for a man. It sounds like insecurity to me. You also downplayed five and a quarter inches even though your friend can see the top of your head. You act like you're above average height when you say nonsense like that.

Who's making assumptions about who? I'm not claiming anything. I am simply implying things, you're the one who's inferring this hogwash.

You literally just said the difference isn't huge after saying it is a significant difference. Which is it? Do you even know what "significant" means? The Merriam-Webster dictionary says: "of a noticeably or measurably large amount." The keyword is "large." What is a synonym of "large"? Let's consult the thesaurus now. Oh, look at that, another word for large is "huge."

Go back to kindergarten, buddy.

adrianjacobs said on 18/Dec/22
@Henrik
Which part of Sweden do you live in? I live in Stockholm and I'm somewhere between 6ft and 6'1. I feel below average for sure, so I can definitely imagine that you feel only average or upper average at 187cm.
I've also noticed the thing with being guessed as shorter than you are. People think I'm 175cm and I've seen countless amount of times guy calling themselves "1.80" when they look 6'1-6'2.

Jdubbz said on 18/Dec/22
@Henrik:

How would 199cm be seen in Sweden? Very tall, or just regular tall? In the US I can go a month or two without seeing anyone taller, but I'm assuming guys over 2 meters are far more common in Sweden.

Canson said on 18/Dec/22
Bobby said on 17/Dec/22
@c-mo 176cm

Yes, you do. You constantly talk about how your height is "decent" and play it up as being "good" even though you live in Germany, where the average German man is 180 cm tall. I know you're not German, so you're below-average height in Germany. Now, I know you're going to ask, "how is saying my height is decent or good the same as saying above average?"

@Bobby: it’s a waste of time and energy talking to C-Mo about this. He has spent his time on this forum trying to rationalize his height being good or bad. No such thing as good or bad height.

Jdubbz said on 18/Dec/22
@Bobby and C-mo:

Yikes...I didn't mean to start anything between you two.

c-mo 176cm said on 18/Dec/22
@Bobby

of course i win ...because you are talking nonsense . and you claim things about me that are not true . but if you think you are winning this argument then so be it ....think what you want

me saying that i feel decent at my height in germany does not mean / imply that i am above average .

also keep in mind that the 180cm fighre is for younger men . and likely mostly ethnic germans . and it is likely an earlier in the day measurement . i have always said that for young ethnic german men my height is at the bottom end of the average range . which is decent enough considering the fact that germans are one of the tallest people on earth . when you include all ethnicities and also not only young men then my height is solid average . among non germans my height feels slightly above average even

but it doesnt matter anyway . when i repeatedly said that my height is decent i just wanted to tell how my own height feels like when i was analyzing heights

and regarding my 189cm friend . as i said the difference is significant of course ...but not huge . i didnt mean to say that it is trivial ....just that he doesnt dwarf me

you should stop accusing me of saying stuff that i dont and stop your misinterpretations

and i am writing quickly and dont bother checking my grammar when i write ...i am not a nerd

Henrik said on 18/Dec/22
Sorry for the errors in my last post, I was typing from my phone.

Jdubbz said on 18/Dec/22
@Alex 6'0. I think lunchtime height usually means being up for 4-5 hours, though most people probably do mean 11am-12pm. It's all relative though. I can get up at 10-11 thanks to my current schedule, so most peoples' lunchtime heights would be my one hour out of bed morning height.

AK World said on 17/Dec/22
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MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 17/Dec/22
@Peter 180cm

When I see women slightly taller than me I usually check out the footwear, so I'm accounting for that. Obviously 5'10 women aren't the norm, I never said it was. I was merely saying I see more 5'10 women than 6'3 guys in my area.

Bobby said on 17/Dec/22
@c-mo 176cm

Yes, you do. You constantly talk about how your height is "decent" and play it up as being "good" even though you live in Germany, where the average German man is 180 cm tall. I know you're not German, so you're below-average height in Germany. Now, I know you're going to ask, "how is saying my height is decent or good the same as saying above average?"

Well, my 'friend,' the answer is simple. Let's use some heuristics. You said your best friend is 189 cm tall compared to your 176 cm. I scrolled down for some contextual evidence and this is what I found, in your own words, "but he doesnt dwarf me nor is there a "huge" difference." I won't mention how atrocious your grammar is, but since you are trivializing such a significant difference in height you are suggesting that you must be above average height. Let's see, 189 cm is commonly thought of as 6'2.5 and 176 cm is 5'9.25. This means you are five and a quarter inches shorter than he is. The eye level of a 6'2.5 guy is 5'10, which means he is looking over your head. Yet, you don't think he's much taller than you are. That's ludicrous.

You claim I am hallucinating, but it's clear you are trying to downplay the difference between you and your friend. You are obsessed and delusional.

Back off, C-Mo. This is a match of wits you won't win.

Alex 6'0 said on 17/Dec/22
Lunchtime height is that 11am-12 noon we're referring to or is that a few hrs up?

Alex 6'0 said on 17/Dec/22
I'm really against claiming out of bed height which you're for under 5 mins and even 1/8 less you're for very short time. If you're up couple hrs thats not bad to claim since decent chunk lost.

Canson said on 17/Dec/22
@Jdubbz: yea that makes no sense what he’s saying to you but that’s typical with height especially when it comes to people either making themselves taller or claiming taller.

Maahin Chowdhury said on 17/Dec/22
@dreus23
Some people nowadays end up taller than their parents. I exceeded my genetic potential as well. My mum is 5’1 and my dad was 5’9, he’s 5’8 now. I’m 5’11 or slightly under it and my brother is 5’10. Apparently I was supposed to end up between 5’7-5’8, probably cuz of my mums height.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 17/Dec/22
@Zaratustraelsabio

I'm from England. In Gloucestershire. No I'm not accounting for heels, I'm talking barefoot height.

Peter 180cm said on 17/Dec/22
@MaskdeMasque 5'9.5 5'10 women are not the norm,maybe they're more like 174-176cm but wear boots with bigger heels. In fact, guessing someone as about an inch taller than he/she is pretty typical because of footwear and posture/hair etc.

Alex 6'0 said on 17/Dec/22
Jdubzz, yea you could say 8 inches plus is start of legit dwarfing. Yes that guy at gym was listed 6'11 on his college basketball team but he looked more like 6'10. I was truley dwarfed.

ZDA said on 17/Dec/22
179 cn 5 ft 10.5, is probably the start of above average/tallish range, at least in the U.K. minimum.

Jdubbz said on 17/Dec/22
@John185:

I'm not assuming anything, I'm just telling you what I've noticed from the people I've talked to irl and on the internet who use "around" or "about" to describe their height. Obviously not everyone who uses "around" is rounding up, it just seems to be the case more often than not. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter.

"You wrote your username height as 198.8cm on this site which is a hair over 6'6.25, so you could claim just over 6'6, or 6'6 and a half. There is no need for you to say "around 6'6" or for me to say "around 6'1"."

I'm not sure what your point is here. I don't use "around" and have never been a fan of that because of how vague it is. My username is very precise because this is a height forum, but I just claim 6'6 irl. Specifying a fraction or saying just over 6'6 is kinda meaningless in my case because it's not like the average person can notice the difference anyways.

Henrik said on 17/Dec/22
@Daniel Lee 173 cm

The average height in Sweden in 2008 was 181.5cm (5ft 11.5) for 20 to 29-year-olds and 166.8cm (5ft 5.5) for females. It's 178cm (5ft 10) and 164.6cm (5ft 5) for all age groups (20-74).

Sam83 said on 17/Dec/22
That’s true, maybe I was not standing up straight, and probably just didn’t feel as tall as usual around people who are normally a lot shorter than me! I know one girl claims 5’7 and she had some super high play for heels on which I guess would have put her close or taller than me. Maybe similar to these Click Here
Would be interesting to see if anyone had pictures of comparison to people without heels and then really high pairs to see what the difference change is like!

It was also in the evening, so maybe I had lost a few mm ;)

AK World said on 17/Dec/22
Hello @Rob,

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UEDO said on 16/Dec/22
Rob, if I am 5'10 1/4 around 12 hours out of bed, what listing would I get online? 178.4cm? 179.1cm?

Black Noir said on 16/Dec/22
Hey rob would u argue then that Chris williamson is 5’10?

John185 said on 16/Dec/22
Jdubbz said on 14/Dec/22
@John185:

"Saying "around 6'1" implies that someone could be a bit over or a bit under, not simply that they are rounding up."

In theory yes, but in my experience, it is far more common for people who use "around" to be rounding up than rounding down.


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If someone says for example "around 6'0" then they could be rounding up or rounding down. You can't simply assume they would be rounding up.
At 6'0.75 I just say 6'1. I could also say "nearly 6'1".

You wrote your username height as 198.8cm on this site which is a hair over 6'6.25, so you could claim just over 6'6, or 6'6 and a half. There is no need for you to say "around 6'6" or for me to say "around 6'1".

chad michaels said on 16/Dec/22
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Meltdown said on 16/Dec/22
@ Darksol64 said on 15/Dec/22

I agree. When it comes to average height ranges, a 5.5–6 inch height differences is the beginning of towering. This is because one man—even if he were a female—would still be the same height or taller than the other man. This is the psychology behind dwarfing. Even the female-converted interpretation of his genetics is larger.

But as you drop down to much shorter heights where 4.5–5 inches is the differential between men and women, that becomes the new dwarfing standard, and likewise for taller people, it could be 7 inches plus that becomes the standard.

I think in general any heights times 1.09 or greater of the same gender becomes the minimum threshold for dwarfing. Some could argue it to be 1.1 to be safe. That is very reasonable.

Example: 5ft 9.5 × 1.1 = 6ft 4.5 dwarfing height.

Or 5ft 9.5 ÷ 1.09 = dwarfs 5ft 3.75

Zaratustraelsabio said on 16/Dec/22
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 9/Dec/22
I swear i see more 5'10 girls than I do 6'3 guys even though statistically they should be very similar.

Where do you live?... Do the 5'10 girls are wearing heels?

Jdubbz 198.8cm said on 16/Dec/22
Gian 181cm said on 16/Dec/22
@Meltdown
I think this strikes me as a hasty generalization and cherry picking.
Try doing some research on where you live for more reliable information.

Yeah, that guess doesn’t seem accurate to me. California especially is a relatively short state, so an overall 5’10.5 - 5’11 average seems too high (unless he’s only interacting with upper middle class and upper class white dudes).

rlheight5'11 said on 16/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
Yes, we take too few of them especially considering how much time people spend working and raising their children. The importance of breaks probably isn't taken seriously enough

The reason I took time off and claimed furlough was because of someone else in my household, I'll leave it at that. After 6 weeks of furlough, I returned to work.. haven't took a break ever since.

Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 16/Dec/22
Probably 5'10.5" is the average height in Sweden. What do you think

dreus23 said on 16/Dec/22
@Meltdown

If ur mom is 5'6 then I'm pretty sure you just got her genes. That's pretty much the equivalent of a solid 5'11 guy. Sure your dad is short but if you use the traditional formula, dad's height+mom's height+13 divided by 2 then your predicted height really isn't 5'7 tops, more like 5'7-5'8. I guess you exceeded your genetic potential by a bit, but you might as well just have gotten ur mom's genes

(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 16/Dec/22
Sam83@ I measure 182 at night ( not tall not short ) and I’m taller than most girls in heels, you sure you are standing up straight? If I go into town in the day time I’ll more than likely see girls over 6ft without heels on in a busy town

rlheight5'11 said on 16/Dec/22
@Editor Rob
Hands in pockets is more my style nowadays and my job is within walking distance anyway so it does not bother me much. Unless walking home with shopping but gloves were something I wore a few years ago and during my school years. Hats have always seemed too big and uncomfortable for me.

Gian 181cm said on 16/Dec/22
@Jdubbz
I had a colleague who was 6'4 and from the point of view of a 181cm guy he looked much taller than me, sometimes I seemed to be at eye level with him but I still felt a lot of difference.
He looked to be 194cm tbh, he just told me he was over 190cm.

Gian 181cm said on 16/Dec/22
@Sam83
Kinda rare for me to see women with this heel. I remember going to a party and there were a lot of women with heels that were 3-5 inches tops and so they were closer to the average male height.

In general the women I met at parties who were close to my height were wearing sneakers, usually tall women 5'7-5'8 were in heels but a maximum of 3 inches which made them very close to my height.
I should be 183 - 183.2cm in my sneakers.

However if most women wear 6.5 inch heels they will outperform most men. In high heels anyone gets tall lol.

Canson said on 16/Dec/22
@Meltdown: I guess whatever floats your boat

Gian 181cm said on 16/Dec/22
@Meltdown
I think this strikes me as a hasty generalization and cherry picking.
Try doing some research on where you live for more reliable information.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 16/Dec/22
@Meltdown

Are you from UK? Im same height as you basically and I feel solid average in gen pop. If I was surrounded by 18-25 year olds I would probably feel low average tbh.

Sam83 said on 16/Dec/22
Hi all, I’m 181cm and wondered how often you guys see girls (with or without heels) who are taller than this? I’m sure heels are getting higher, such as these! Click Here

I was at a house party recently and all the girls were wearing heels (I had taken my shoes off) and a lot felt close to my height or taller, when they don’t usually feel anywhere near my height! Has anyone else had this before, when someone shorter than you suddenly come close or taller than you when in heels?!

Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 16/Dec/22
Difference of :
- 1 inch = similar height
- 1.5-1.75 = a bit taller
- 2.75 = solid difference
- 3.5 = good difference

Daniel Lee 173 cm said on 16/Dec/22
Alex 6'0 said on 15/Dec/22
Mask, thats debatable it depends. 4.5 usually you'll see top of their head which is towering to some. Sometimes i feel 5-6 inches is start of true towering
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I think a 6'0 guy has a eyelevel nearer to 4.6 inch, easily, not 4.5", it is more common for 5'9 guys.
6'2 guys around 11.7-8 cm

Jdubbz said on 16/Dec/22
@Gian 181cm:

That's a very interesting point. I've noticed that old guys tend to have much higher shoulder levels (or rather shorter necks) for their height. I can't tell if it's because of more exacerbated forward head posture (which is common along old people) or rather actual cervical shrinkage. Or maybe a combination of the two.

Jdubbz said on 16/Dec/22
@ QM6'1.5"QM:

Exactly bro. I agree with you 100%. Physical appearance aside, just look at the difference 5" makes in terms of percentile. You go from 50th percentile (5'10) to 95th percentile (6'3). Or 95th percentile to 99.95th percentile (6'8). For every 6'3+ guy, there are 10 5'10 guys. For every 6'8+ guy, there are 100 6'3 guys. It's a crazy difference, especially when you're already far from the mean. It's basically a 2 standard deviation difference, which is gigantic.

I also think that a 5" difference looks more significant when it's between people of the same gender. A man being 5" taller than a woman doesn't look that huge because it's the standard height difference, whereas a man being 5" taller than another man is very very noticeable.

Darksol64 said on 15/Dec/22
I'm in the camp that thinks 4-5 inch difference is where it really starts to seem alot. Even 2-3 inches at times.

Towering? Maybe 5 inches isn't quite towering but it's close. 5.5 to 6 inches above average really does start to tower though, because the shorter guy be almost eye level with the bigger guy's shoulders which will make you feel short for sure. For example legit strong 6'2 guys like Jack Coleman or Alan Ritchson standing next to Rob. Hell, at almost 6'2 I feel short looking at the lower nose of a 6'4 guy.

This changes a little as the heights go up and body dimensions change; I've seen where a 6'5 guy is still easily looking over the shoulders of a 7'0 guy so it doesn't appear as towering as 7 inches between a 5'8 and 6'3 guy. As you go down it would look even more towering; like an average 5'9 guy next to a 5'2 girl.

QM6'1.5"QM said on 15/Dec/22
It's only my opinion. Ok. It sounds like 5in is nothing and nobody feels and can't read men mind... sometimes even 3/4" or 1in it's like space and earth. This is so funny. If 5in isn't that big difference then 5'3-4" tall guy is ”still average" and not that small compared to regular normal people of average height ...
I really don't like heightism, but nobody thinks like that and man like Rob, a solid 5'8" (1/8), will just towering someone of 5'3-4" tall!

Or just imagine Tom Cruise being 5in taller.

Meltdown said on 15/Dec/22
@ Canson said on 10/Dec/22

I claim my morning height barefoot which is 5ft 10. During the day I'm a strong 5ft 9.5 and by early evening I usually dip to 5ft 9.25.

Why do I claim my morning height? For starters, it's really my raw height each day so I'm not lying. Also 5'10 sounds much better than 5'9 ½ to everyone. Plus most guys my height claim 5'11, so common knowledge is skewed. All good reasons if you ask me. In sneakers I'm a solid 5ft 10 ½ afternoon height. About 5'11 in my cargo boots.

Meltdown said on 15/Dec/22
@ Sinclair said on 10/Dec/22

I must have gotten very lucky. My father was no more than 5'3 (now maybe 5'1 at age 60) and mother nearly 5'6. I was supposed to be 5'7 tops and grew to 5'10 morning height. Big difference if you ask me!

Most of my grandfathers of the 20th century were 5'3 to 5'8 peak height range, so I am the second tallest out of all of them for 4 generations and still barely avg height by today's standards.

Meltdown said on 15/Dec/22
I was just thinking I wake up 178 cm, and most of the day I'm 176.5–177 cm.

In a group of 10 men aged 20 to 55, on avg about 6 will be taller and 3 will be shorter. Or maybe sometimes 5 will be taller, 3 shorter, 1 my height. Point is I am a strong 5ft 9 ½ afternoon height and rarely if ever feel a solid avg like we're always told. And honestly I usually claim about 5'10 which is my daily morning height (5'10 ¼ on good days).

So maybe avg height is to closer 180+ cm morning/179 cm afternoon. Possibly so. I'm in So-Cal BTW.

Jdubbz said on 15/Dec/22
@Bobby

Yeah, I'm not too sure either. Of course C-mo is entitled to his opinion, but I think that kind of a height difference is extremely noticeable and getting really significant. I don't feel THAT much taller than people who are 12-13cm shorter than me, but only because I'm so used to it and because most people are even shorter.

That kind of a height difference doesn't seem so large when the average man is 23cm shorter and the average woman is 36cm shorter, but objectively speaking I still realize that it is. On the very rare occasion I'm around a guy who is 12-13cm taller than me, that difference feels absolutely huge. I'm just not used to being eye level with someone's chin. It's pretty unsettling, in all honesty.

Jdubbz said on 15/Dec/22
@Alex 6'0:

Yes I think I would tower over a solid 6 footer like you, but I definitely wouldn't dwarf you. A guy would probably have to be over 6'8 to dwarf a 6 footer. I remember a while back you posted a picture of a 6'9-10 guy next to you at the gym. I think that kind of a difference is when you really start to dwarf somebody.

I agree, a 6"+ difference is towering. A 4.5 or 5" difference is really big, but I think you can say that you tower over someone when you're clearly looking over their head. At 4.5-5", you may be eye level with their scalp, but if they have any sort of thick hair, you're not gonna be looking over. At 6" you definitely will.

One thing I noticed is that the height difference seems less significant when you're the taller one. I know I'm much taller than 6'0-2 guys, but sometimes it feels like people near my eye level are "close" to my height. On the other hand, on the rare occasion I'm around a 7 footer, I feel pretty tiny. I bet 5'6 people feel tiny around a solid 6 foot guy like you.

c-mo 176cm said on 15/Dec/22
@Bobby

i have never tried to play my height as above average ....wtf are you talking about


and i said that my 189cm friend is significantly taller than me ....i did not once claim that the difference is trivial ....can you read ? or are you just trolling ?

hallucinations should be treated my friend . or just clean your glasses and read my posts carefully

rlheight5'11 said on 15/Dec/22
@Rob
It looks like you're having fun there 😄 and your computer setup kinda looks nice and cozy.

Gian 181cm said on 15/Dec/22
Rob, considering a person close to your height, would it be an indication that an older person has lost height when they have the same shoulder level as you?
I met an older person and he looked about 5'11, I felt his cervical spine was more inclined but I'm not sure.
He looked healthy, so I'm guessing he could have been 5'11.5 at his peak.

Alex 6'0 said on 15/Dec/22
Jdubzz, you're example of a guy who would tower me. Solid 6 inch difference id prob come up to middle of your nose. I feel i definitely tower 5'6 guys. 2 at my job are 5'6 or slightly under. I tower them