General Height

Please use this page as a 'free for all' forum to talk about height in general. Stuff like average heights in countries, how height affects your job and how people perceive height etc or any suggestions for new heights or height quotes you find for stars not already added to the site. If you want to request a height to be added, please use the Height Request page.

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c-mo said on 14/Oct/19
if you are 177.4cm at night you have to claim 175cm because 7.4 rounds down to 7 and 7 rounds down to 5 since it is closer to 5 than to 10 in the gret scheme of things and even 177.4 is in the 5'9 range I mean it is something like 5'9.8 or so so might as well say 5'9
ajax509 said on 14/Oct/19
@c-mo Everyone goes through bad times, see the website as entertainment. 👍
Litenko said on 14/Oct/19
guys, is it true that in california, florida, new york, hawaii the average height is 5'8 or a stronger 5'7?
Greg said on 14/Oct/19
@Vitto most people who are non binary go with they/them right? Or other cases it might be either or. Anyways I think you should claim “ around 5’11 or about 5’11 here in real life you could definitely say 5’11 if you’re 5’10.75 at a low or afternoon. Outside of celeb heights it doesn’t really matter that much. The only time you could claim 5’10 is if you wanted to troll someone who’s lying about their height say shorter than you and claiming 6’0 or something like that.
Greg said on 14/Oct/19
@Canson yeah it’s messed up, but it’s not even about offending someone it’s just when someone’s lying they refuse to believe you and in most cases refuse to get measured again. Because they must be x height or a doctors measurement got them down at that inflation. Which is a stupid excuse and you’re right it screws up the system and makes everyone think that everyone else is taller.
Greg said on 14/Oct/19
@Canson yeah I thought it was a week too.
Sean william Winter said on 14/Oct/19
greg doesnt it annoy u that were under 180 cm. at night 6 pm i was 178.4 cm.but with decent sneakers i can hit 182 cm range. i feel that extra inch of hieghyt with good sneakers makes a small difference but none less still a difference.like rob said everyone should do a hieght vidoe not that i dont belive u guys i want to see what u measure around 6 pm moderately active day with small peroids of sitting. not lifting heavy weights all day.
Vitto said on 14/Oct/19
@ c-mo I NEVER said I identify as a man, I just said I was born a woman to underline the fact that I am very tall. You did read it wrong, I said I Identify as genderqueer/non-binary as I told Greg. I don't want to argue over this, though. Anyway, it's ok if you call me with masculine pronouns, but I wouldn't be offended by feminine either. Masculine is ok by the way. Anyway, my measurement was taken in the afternoon.
@ Johan My measurement wasn't taken straight out of bed but in the afternoon after 5-6 hours out of bed so I remember Rob said you can claim that height if it has passed that much time. Yes, I'm 180cm. Do you think almost 5'11 (5'10 7/8) is tall for someone born a woman?
khaled taban said on 14/Oct/19
@greg , Statistics claim 5'9" is an average height , I know but for me It's quite short and not even short-ish.
By saying "king of short height" I mean that 5'9" is the last height at the short category , since 5'10" isn't short from my perspective , even still It's not perfect by any means , having said It's barely good or acceptable.
However being 5'9" has a benefit : I have nothing to lose since I am short .
I have to thank my parents on public , Thank you both my dad and mom for making me short , thanks for making me suffer every single day of my life !
khaled taban said on 14/Oct/19
@greg , I don't need psychiatrist , you just don't see the problem .
At age 21 years old , I am old enough to know that we don't always get what we want , but I am kind of guy who got nothing in life , I am even not good looking .
When I was 15 , I wanted to be 6'0" because I knew how 6 foot men,who were treated respectiely by society and how much attractive were they to girls.
But day after day and exactly when I was 5'8" at 18 years old , I realized that I will never ever be 6'0" and afterwards my words have became a fact and I am nowhere near 6'0" .
I am saying this with all proudness , 5'9" is a rediculous height for a man , It's inferior and far from good or attractive.
Everything was good until I have stopped growing , I worries all the time and wherever I lay my head , I am thinking more and more about my height , my friend noticied that I am somewhat disspaointed and there is something which has destroyed my mood .
Bego said on 14/Oct/19
@Greg I think its because some people just dont know how tall they are. But its true some will fraud and act that way.
khaled taban said on 14/Oct/19
@Johan 185 cm ,I am upset because I could have been simply tall ,I got somewhat lucky with genes as my father is only 5'5" and the majority ot men in my family are below 5'7" , on my mother side (she is 5'2") there is an uncle who is 5'10" , and he clearly the one who provided me with that gene since there is no another explaination for being 5'9".
So It's obviously that If my dad was a bit taller , I could have been at least 5'10" and even a good chance of 6'0".
The problem is feminity that comes with being a height which girls can reach to so easily , I've never been convinced that 5'9" is a rare height for girls , I see them daily and It's really like a pain in the as*.
Big Ben said on 14/Oct/19
@pierre - I'm still here just lurking in the shadows👻
I haven't been able to comment for 2 months for some reason it just says "details invalid". I added a last name and now it works 🤷‍♂️
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 14/Oct/19
@Greg

Yeah, I think claiming anything you actually measure is okay to say. I know this is CelebHeights but some of the posters need to stop being so pedantic over fractions like K.A 188 has said. Arguing over 2cm is one thing but if you're going to give someone a hard time over a 1/4 of an inch then you need to stop and take a breath and maybe realize that you're policing someone. Policing people over fractions is not okay and that has to stop. Let someone claim their morning height if they want too, it's still a valid measurement.
Bego said on 14/Oct/19
@Animus How tall are you?
Canson said on 14/Oct/19
@Greg and Editor Rob: I was under the same impression about Connor that it was just for 1 week. I thought he said that he wasn’t coming back which we heard from Greg
Bobby 1.78m said on 14/Oct/19
@K.A 188 !

I agree. I'm 177.5cm in the afternoon and round that to 178cm and now I'm getting into pointless arguments over 5mm 😂 The people on this site, I tell you.
Johan 185 cm said on 14/Oct/19
Importer said on 11/Oct/19
Solid 2.5 inch difference example :
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Click Here

I will take this one, although Vin has more footwear so its more 3" in reality. In the pic solid 2.5 inches.

3" over the average is definetly tall and 6" over average for sure very tall, that would mean 6'4" starts the very tall range in taller countries in Europe.

I will settle on 2.75" difference for tall and 5.5" for very tall. 6'3.5" is very tall to me and most people.
Sakz said on 14/Oct/19
@c-mo He probably will be told that but only for the purpose of this site. He can claim whatever he wants and in reality 5'11 would be perfectly reasonable. I wouldn't take it too heart this site and reality are two different things.
Johan 185 cm said on 14/Oct/19
Vitto said on 11/Oct/19
@ Rob, If during a certain time of the day I measured exactly 180, how much that would be in inches? It's not 5'11 exactly because it's minus the 3 mm so in inches would it be 5'10 7/8? Moreover, I was born a woman so it's that considered tall in the UK where I live? And what about men? Is it still above average for men? Thanks.

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As long as you're not measuring straight out of bed I would just go with 5'11" if you're 180 cm.

My idea on height claims for example 5'11.25" rounds down to 5'11", over 5'11.25" rounds to 5'11.5", over 5'11.5" down to 5'11.5", 5'11.75" up to 6' .

So if you're the 3/4 mark at least then you can round up, if not take the 1/2 mark.
Johan 185 cm said on 14/Oct/19
khaled taban said on 13/Oct/19
@Kourosh , What is good about being mediocre ?
5'9" is the king of short heights , It's just as bad as 5'3".
I am only one cm shorter than you , It's horrible how many girls I see whom are around 5'9" .
Take it from 5'9" guy who has done growing :(

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I understand you're upset that you didn't grow to be tall but comparing yourself to a very short guy is shameful. You feel bad? Imagine what it would be like to be 6 inches shorter, thats the bridge of your nose to the top of your head.

Here look Click Here

"Short" 5'9" guy with 5'2" guy.

Click Here

And Jamie foxx was in a relationship with 5'9" Katie Holmes, guess being 5'9" isn't that much of a problem in that area either.
Canson said on 14/Oct/19
@Greg: what’s even worse is that people don’t disagree with the ones who lie in many cases. Instead they say to the honest person “no you’re taller than that”. Ridiculous as it is I don’t know if it’s because people don’t want to offend someone by telling them they aren’t as tall as they claim but I find it equally offensive (if not more) to tell someone that they’re taller than they are. That makes it sound as if someone doesn’t know how tall they are or that they are downplaying their height or are clueless all because someone else has to be insecure and really to be blunt selfish
c-mo said on 14/Oct/19
@ Vitto

well there you go ...I said vito because I cant even concentrate and read properly anymore because of my real life problems . I am extremely anxious and in panic mode these days .

I used a masculine pronouns to not disrespect you because you said that you identify as a male despite being born a woman... or did I get this wrong ? I thought you would WANT us to say "he/him"

either way I am not interested in this new age gender stuff and dont want to discuss it....just tell me how you want me to call you and I will do

you should claim 5'11 of course lol . if you are 180.1cm at night I would even claim 181cm if I were you but thats up to you . but nothing below 5'11 for sure . saying 5'10 wouldnt make any sense

if you are 180.1cm in the morning though I would go with 179cm but saying 5'11 or 180cm in this case wouldnt be bad either . because might as well just say 180cm instead of "179cm" ....lol . and technically you are not lying

but I guess you are 180.1cm at night so definitely claiming anything below 5'11 doesnt make any sense


@ Greg

thanks bro
Importer said on 14/Oct/19
@K.A 188 !
If you stand close to a stadiometer or a tape measure you can differentiate 1/8” though
Importer said on 14/Oct/19
Rounding up should be no more than 0.5”
Vitto said on 13/Oct/19
@c-mo you brought me and my height up so I will reply to you. First, I don't care that you call me with masculine pronouns because for me masculine or feminine is the same. As I explained some comments below, I don't identify with either of the two. Second, what do you think I should claim 5'10 or 5'11? 5'10 in my honest opinion would be absurd so I prefer claiming 5'11 since it's just a few mm as you said. Third, the context of the speech was different, I was just asking Rob how much 180.0 cm would be in feet since I am not very familiar with the latter. Then my nickname is Vitto not vito. And I have serious problems in life too but that doesn't mean that I won't reply anymore. That's all.
K.A 188 ! said on 13/Oct/19
@C-MO
Lol i agree with what you said.
Even though i am a frequent poster here it still makes me cringe when i see people passionately arguing over milimiters....

I can understand a 2cm argument but passionately arguing over less than a cm is ridiculous and vain.
Greg said on 13/Oct/19
@Pov yeah but the imperial system makes it easier to inflate, there’s probably height frauders in the metric too but feet and inches tends to have the most boosters. I think claiming a morning height or rounding up a bit is okay but adding fake inches isn’t. Like I know guys who are 5’9 range at best claiming 5’11-6’0. The 6’0 foot range claiming 6’2 is pretty common too as well as 6’2.5-6’2.75 claiming to be 6’4-6’5. Which makes everything skewed and people assume everyone’s taller/shorter than they really are. I think I only heard one legit 6 footer claim the mark.
K.A 188 ! said on 13/Oct/19
@C-MO
Lol i agree with what you said.
Even though i am a frequent poster here it still makes me cringe when i see people passionately arguing over milimiters....

I can understand a 2cm argument but passionately arguing over less than a cm is ridiculous and vain.
Greg said on 13/Oct/19
@Pierre Ben still posts occasionally and wait Rob I thought Connor was temporarily banned for a week? So he’s permanently banned? Serves him right anyways he needs to control his temper tantrums. I mean he did say that he does not wish to visit the site anymore. Besides it’s not like we want him too lmao
Editor Rob

Getting really riled up over other height opinions or obsessing over your own height is not conducive to mental health.

There are some posts that don't appear which can be reason enough to ban someone. I am forgiving up to a point.
mrfunnyguy said on 13/Oct/19
Rob, is there still a chance I might have measured myself wrong, even though I have measured myself at different places with different rulers and measuring tapes and I've always gotten the same result?
Editor Rob
If you are getting similar figures in different rooms, then I would go with that.

There may be an error, but I doubt it's very big, maybe a few mm.
Greg said on 13/Oct/19
@Khaled Taban you must have some sort of mental issue if you are saying 5’9 is short, literally there was a 5’2 guy talking about how it’s hard for him to be that height and you’re almost a head taller talking about “short king” lol wtf. I barely see 5’9+ women at all I might have come across like 1 or 2 in the past month. It’s really not as common as you think. I think you need to see a psychiatrist or something.
Greg said on 13/Oct/19
@c-mo it’s not that deep man, but some posters retire celeb heights. I hope your situation gets better as I’m sure you know we all have problems to deal with outside in the real world. However, if you need anything don’t hesitate to reach out. Hope things get better for you.
Greg said on 13/Oct/19
@Vitto Right I see, that’s still a tall height either way.
houss said on 13/Oct/19
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 12/Oct/19
@Houss

So, you're 185cm?
No , 182,5 cm at night
Vitto said on 13/Oct/19
@Greg No, I just identify as genderqueer/non-binary but I underlined that I was born a woman so as you said I am very tall for the gender that was assigned at me.
Goel175cm said on 13/Oct/19
@ pov
If you are interested about people living in India, Just go through this website once
Click Here
This site claims that an average indian height has regress a bit in most States or remained same in some states. This site has analyzed the data based on nfhs 2015-16 that is national health survey.
I don't know how Indians average in European countries but here in India it is bang on 165cm
c-mo said on 13/Oct/19
if vito will be told to claim 5'10 7/8 or "u are not 5'11 because you are 180.1cm" or if he will do it himself or even worse if he will claim 5'10 then I will not post here anymore lol no joke . I already post less and think of leaving for good . I am having a bad phase in my life tighf now and while dealing with real world problems I see how ridiculous and useless these discussions about milimeters here are ....just lol

btw I officially claim 170cm to people now to be an "honest guy" and I am very "confident" and dont need to make myself "taller" like 177cm
khaled taban said on 13/Oct/19
@Kourosh , What is good about being mediocre ?
5'9" is the king of short heights , It's just as bad as 5'3".
I am only one cm shorter than you , It's horrible how many girls I see whom are around 5'9" .
Take it from 5'9" guy who has done growing :(
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 12/Oct/19
@Houss

So, you're 185cm?
Greg said on 12/Oct/19
@Vitto you’re trans? Okay well 5’10 7/8ths is like 180.1 cm maybe more or less and that’s above average for men in most places and for woman that’s very tall.
Greg said on 12/Oct/19
@Sakz a legit 6’0 is definitely tall, some people confuse it with very tall but it’s just plain tall. Also most people have a case of tallitis as diagnosed by Dr. BigRobPhD himself where you only pay attention to people taller than you. I notice myself even doing it from time to time and it skews your perception.
Greg said on 12/Oct/19
@Ajax509 actually I would actually be Like Jack Nicholson In Anger Management except you would take on Sandler’s Role we would police your height and surrounding heights until we came to a conclusion and you could maybe graduate from my program.
Greg said on 12/Oct/19
@Kourosh where do you live? Just over 5’9 is as average as it gets. With the exception of a few tall average countries. However you shouldn’t feel that short seeing you would be just a little below it. Assuming that 176cm measurement was legit, I’m assuming afternoon?
pov said on 12/Oct/19
I believe most people tend to exaggerate their height by 1.5 inches. For example I’m 185.8cm in the morning, but I don’t claim 6”1 because I’m around 184cm most of the day. If I go gym or have had a extreme strenuous day I’m 183.4cm at low. I claim 184 because it’s the mid range between my tallest and shortest. Most people my height claim 6”1 which is fair enough as they may very well be 6”1 in the morning or they are rounding up to the nearest whole number. Which I don’t mind at all. But lot of people my height also claim 6”2 as they probably got measured in shoes and are close to it.
Goes to show height exaggeration occurs at all levels. I don’t know one legit 6 foot guy who has claimed a humble 6 foot. Most people 183-184cm claim 6”1-6”2.
Pierre Etienne said on 12/Oct/19
Hey Rob, what happened to the user Ben and Connor? I haven't seen them comment in months.
Editor Rob
Connor was banned a while ago.
pov said on 12/Oct/19
@Christian 6”5,3/8
Those stats may apply to the Netherlands only. Which I expect seeing as they are a tall population, maybe due to globalisation, the younger generation have incorporated a more of an American diet, leading to a height decrease in many areas, but also you can’t forget immigration, the Netherlands have a large moroccan, Algerian, and Turkish influx in 1985 and after, also many Somalian asylum seekers, this could also have resulted in an average height decrease for younger generations. Also most of my friends and cousins are taller than their parents peak heights, surely if the majority end up being taller, that means they are getting taller? I remember my uni graduation ceremony for example most of the kids had surpassed their parents heights. What about you? Are you taller than your parents? Are your friends / cousins etc taller than theirs? When walking across university/college campuses 5”10+ is very common.
Goel175cm said on 12/Oct/19
@ Kourosh
Where are you from?
Kourosh said on 12/Oct/19
@rob
thank you rob you were measuring is the best way to conclude one's height.
Kourosh said on 12/Oct/19
@ajax509

i measured myself and guess what, i was 176 cm. i feel short from time to time but as short as 5'7 is just abit ridiculous. Average height in my country is 5'9.

i decided not to give a damn what women say since they dont even have a clue about height. It is funny i was never called short by other males in my life.

thanks for feedback though
TheBat said on 11/Oct/19
@Bego

I live in South Carolina.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Oct/19
@pov
It's mostly a myth that the younger generation in the West is getting taller. Johan provided us with the stats that the tallest age group in Netherlands is 30-50, not 20's. It's similar in the US. The middle aged are right around the same as the youth, if not, even a bit taller. The "young generations are getting taller" theory is so prevalent because young people tend to exaggerate height more than the older generations, plus old people start to lose height, often unknowingly, so they just assume that the youth is getting taller. I do agree with you however, that poorer and developing countries like India are getting taller due to improved nutrition and health care.
houss said on 11/Oct/19
Hi , this is my measurement video , it was made at 10:45 pm , and I was barefeet
Click Here
I'm 108kg
ajax509 said on 11/Oct/19
Greg said on 11/Oct/19
@Ajax good for you would you like that tattooed on your forehead? I’ll come by tomorrow afternoon and as an added bonus I’ll tattoo your height of 5’9.25 on your neck.
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You'd end up like Marsellus in Pulp Fiction. #HeightPolice
KONE said on 11/Oct/19
Rob, please add Juice WRLD
Sakz said on 11/Oct/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8" I agree with that. 6 inches and more is definitely the start of very tall and towering. The rest is about right aswell.

@Greg Not being much taller than the average person seems to be the basis for not considering 6'0 tall, which isn't how it's calculated. It's probably not considered as tall as in the olden days, but it still makes the mark in a lot of places especially since a weak 6 footer can feel tallish. Everyone has their own perception though.
Animus said on 11/Oct/19
@pov

I'm from Denmark and I visit Sweden once a month and my clear impression is that the data accurately reflects the reality. The data generally suggests that average height of men in Denmark and Sweden are 180-181cm. Whenever I walk around in urban areas of these countries, that seems about right. In Gothenburg I feel a bit taller than I do in Copenhagen, although I am not sure whether this feeling can be backed up by statistics. But basically 5'11 is the average height, not 6'0 or anything like that.
Vitto said on 11/Oct/19
@ Rob, If during a certain time of the day I measured exactly 180, how much that would be in inches? It's not 5'11 exactly because it's minus the 3 mm so in inches would it be 5'10 7/8? Moreover, I was born a woman so it's that considered tall in the UK where I live? And what about men? Is it still above average for men? Thanks.
Chris brady said on 11/Oct/19
hey guys i was curious to know how much could an oldish cloth tape measure stretch to make it inaccurate? Would it be like 1/4 of an inch or something bigger like 3/4 or a full inch?
Greg said on 11/Oct/19
@TheBat Yeah I mean the average in Pennsylvania is about 5’8-5’9 for Men I find that I’m often taller than most people I come across but of course there will be some taller than me. I rarely encounter taller girls but right now I’m talking to a tall Russian girl who’s just come to America she claimed 5’11.25 but I haven’t met her in person yet so not sure if she’s being honest or what, she could look tall in her photos but she could also be anywhere between 5’9-5’11 because they use metric over there so there’s a possibility she could be like 178.5 and just said 5’11 because of converting issues but who knows. I also saw a 6’1 range cashier the other day. I had my boots on so a I was around 6’0 and she seemed to edge me out because she was 6’2 in casual shoes so I took away the difference and she would have been around 3 inches taller than me. That’s not common at all here. I could go months without seeing a girl taller than me especially by a few inches.
Greg said on 11/Oct/19
@Ajax good for you would you like that tattooed on your forehead? I’ll come by tomorrow afternoon and as an added bonus I’ll tattoo your height of 5’9.25 on your neck.
Greg said on 11/Oct/19
@importer looks closer to 2 inches but I could see how it might be 2.5
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 11/Oct/19
@ajax509

Nah, I'm a lot more practical than that.
Nik Ashton said on 11/Oct/19
@ LimePie - I like your name.
Importer said on 11/Oct/19
Solid 2.5 inch difference example : Click Here
Nik Ashton said on 11/Oct/19
@ mrfunnyguy - You need to look at the whole population to work out what the average height in a country is.
pov said on 11/Oct/19
@mrfunnyguy
I believe you. As I have mentioned before, North Europe appears to be a special case. Northern Europeans are just taller than the rest, no idea why, but they are. It’s like me constantly emphasising my point that the dutch are 184cm on average. I think swedes average 181-182cm along with the danish. In these countries you wont be recognised as tall until you’re around the 190cm mark at-least. Now in your case you may have been with a taller pocket of people, as you will always find pockets of people above average. But I do believe the swedish average height is over 5”11 flat.
Bego said on 11/Oct/19
@TheBat What state do you live in?
ajax509 said on 11/Oct/19
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 10/Oct/19
@ajax509

Si, senor? You hollered my name, right? Oh, that's right. I never said anything about 6/8ths, it was Greg. Why are you putting words in my mouth? Look before you hit the submit box, it'll make you seem less foolish.
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What an honest mistake! Don't you always have the same opinion? ;) Though, it would be 5/8ths as Rob's 5ft 8 1/8 in the evening.
pov said on 11/Oct/19
@PJ Dalton I couldn’t agree with you more.
Most children in my experience do surpass their parents heights regardless if their parents are short/average/tall. It’s evolution, we have access to better nutrition and lifestyle, medicine etc. I think average height goes up each generation. I was born in the mid 90’s, and I can say in my generation 6”0 definitely is not viewed as tall. I think 6”2+ is the real definition of tall. I’m half white british half Indian, and even my Indian cousins 80’s and after average around the 5”10/11 when their parents are much shorter, and I have quite a lot of 6 footers on that side too. 6 foot is very common nowadays for people born in the 80’s and after. 6”2 is the new 6”0 in the west I believe
Greg said on 10/Oct/19
So this guy I seen had 5’10 written on his license was probably looking just over my mouth while I was at my low. I would say he could have been anywhere in the 5’7.5-5’8 range. Did not seem 5’9 let alone 5’10. It’s amazing what people will really right down. When someone tries to use their Drivers License height as proof I always laugh hahah.
Greg said on 10/Oct/19
@LimePie yeah you’re around my friends height, a legit 6 footer is most certainty tall. The people who say it isn’t either live in a tall Country or are being bias. I think it depends on height, footwear and proportions combined that could give you a taller vibe or if you slouch heavily.
Greg said on 10/Oct/19
@Sean you did ok seeing those where your parents heights, I think you had a chance of being 5’11 range maybe? Not sure about 6’0.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 10/Oct/19
@Bego
175-176 is about right, as it's slightly taller than California. Pacific Northwest probably represents the US average accurately.

@Johan
I'd say that 6"+ is the start of very tall though. Only 5" doesn't have that same towering aura that 6"+ has.
I'd say:

12"+ giant
9"-11" extremely tall
6"-8" very tall
3"-5" tall
1"-2" above average

So 2.5" would be right at the cusp between above average and tall.
TheBat said on 10/Oct/19
@Greg
It's interesting how they would find that out. The difference in average height in the state I live in and in California is actually very noticeable from seeing it myself. Many guys I see in Cali are usually in the 5'8"-5'9" range. Friends of mine who live there and I usually edge those men out by 2-2.5" inches maximum. I use to live in LA county but I visit there every now and then.

@Sean William Winter
I feel tallish deepening on where I go. If I'm in a state like NY or Cali, I feel relatively tall, but in the state I live in I feel a little over average but a bit taller by .25 to .5 than 50% of the population.
mrfunnyguy said on 10/Oct/19
I have one more argument why the average height in Sweden is taller than 5'11-range for young guys. When I graduated, which in Sweden is called studenten, I was about the same height as I am now, 6'1. In my class there were six guys taller than me and five shorter. We all graduated the year we turned 19, so some of the guys might even have grown a little bit after that. Nuff said?
Lkkss said on 10/Oct/19
Just a question to Editor Rob, which is the lowest height possible to have an eye level of 170cm or 5'7.
Editor Rob
Some folk could be 5ft 11-11.2 range with that eyelevel. Others may be as tall as 6ft
PJ Dalton said on 10/Oct/19
Hi Rob -- question -- why is it when I look at my 14 year old son, he appears to be an inch or so shorter than me...but when we look at a mirror together, side by side, he's taller? I am a 5'9" mom. Why does that happen?

I wish this discussion forum site was set up like Facebook's format so we can comment right below on the person's statement.

I just read the past month's comments. I have to agree with the fellow who mentioned Minnesota state. I live here now, for 7 years, when I first moved here, I noticed right away that many women both young and old are taller than me...everywhere I go, all the stores, church, gatherings, etc. Now, I am used to it. But when I see a tall 6 foot 70 year old woman, I gasped.

Another fellow's comment was about is the younger generation growing taller than their parents. I have to say yes. I see this all the time. As much as 90%, sons, especially, are much taller than their short or even average height dad parents.

I have to agree with a few comments that to me. 6 feet male is not tall. I am 5'9" so that's probably why I never see a 6' feel man tall. But a 6'2 or higher, to me i consider tall.
Editor Rob
Might be different eyelevels or you hold your eyes higher and he lowers his head at times when speaking? In the mirror, sometimes also our eyes interpret objects as being taller or shorter
Bego said on 10/Oct/19
@LimePie Avg in Pacific Northwest is 175 or 176cm. It could be 177 in some places. But i heard Portland in Oregon is taller than other cities in that state.
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 10/Oct/19
@ajax509

Si, senor? You hollered my name, right? Oh, that's right. I never said anything about 6/8ths, it was Greg. Why are you putting words in my mouth? Look before you hit the submit box, it'll make you seem less foolish.
Johan 185 cm said on 10/Oct/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8"

I sometimes think you could argue 2.5 inches as the difference instead of 3". Most people agree that 5" taller is the start of the very tall range ( 6'3 in most places) so seems logical.

Still means 6' is tall even if we take 5'9.5" as the average.
Johan 185 cm said on 10/Oct/19
Emil said on 9/Oct/19
@Johan 185

Yes I am Danish, bro. What about you?
I read somewhere that the average male height for younger guys is around 182.5 cm, but they were self reported claims. I still find it believable as an average for early morning/noon though. That'd put the average low for young Danish guys around 181 cm, which is plausible to assume

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Dutch. I think Denmark is very close to the Dutch average, also other countries like Sweden, Finland are in the 180 range. Followed up by Belgium, Austria, Germany in the 178-179 range.

I am certain that dutch guys are near 182 cm but somewhere in the high 181 range. What is interesting is that the young gen are shorter than the 30-45 year group. Even the 45-55 year group are marginally taller.
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 10/Oct/19
@Litenko

Oh, right. Got you. I misunderstood that comment.
Sean william Winter said on 10/Oct/19
@greg difficult to say my mom is 5 ft 2 my dad is 5ft 10. at age 13 i was around 5'1 based on photos. some days at school i didnt eat much. but how much would that stunt hieght growth?
Sean 198cm said on 10/Oct/19
@Editor Rob:

Hi Rob, I have a question about a particular measurement technique. I use an aerosol can on a wall like usual, but instead of marking my height on the wall with a pencil, I have already measured out certain marks (eg. 197cm 198cm 199cm). I measure myself with the can like normal, but I press it down on my head and look up at the mark while trying not to move my head. Whatever mark the can is over is my height. My question is that if I do this and I move my head upwards slightly (to better see the mark), would my measurement be affected? Undermeasure/overmeasure?
Editor Rob
When you hold the can, just keep it still and move your head out of the way.

But if you are tilting up, there's a chance of a small difference, though you would feel the can move a bit anyway.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 10/Oct/19
@pov
The tallest state I believe is either Minnesota or North Dakota. Texas may be above average but certainly not as tall as the former two. The shortest may either be California, Florida, New York or Hawaii. I've been to Minnesota and California for example, and the difference in height is very noticeable, once I step outside the airport.

@Johan
I agree, 3" above average is the cut off between medium and tall.
Litenko said on 10/Oct/19
@Bobby. Im not sure you understand me. I was agreeing with you. My comment was an answer for Pov
Greg said on 9/Oct/19
@Sean there isn’t a big difference with a 1/4th of an inch, even being 5’11 you wouldn’t feel much different unless your eye level changed. Let’s say your eye level is 5’5.5 you’d have to have your eye level go to like say 5’6.5 to feel a change a 5’10 and a 5’11 guy can have the same eye level is just one might have a bigger head size or longer legs. You are still above average maybe you stunted your growth through puberty I feel like you should have been near 6’0 at least.
LimePie said on 9/Oct/19
I’m 6’ at night (Almost 6’1 in the morning) and I’ve had many people consider me tall, in fact I’ve never heard someone call me average height. Even my 6’2+ friends call me tall, so I would say 6 foot is a ‘decently’ tall height. I’m from the Pacific Northwest and I would say the average here is between 5’8-5’10. That’s being said I meet at least 1/5 guys that are taller than me In a social setting, so I guess it all depends on location and stuff.
ajax509 said on 9/Oct/19
Greg said on 9/Oct/19
@Kourosh I’m guessing 5’8.75 you’d be about 6/8ths taller than a guy like Big Rob. I remember you mentioned before you where a weak 5’9 if I remember correctly? Also like Rob said measure yourself because for all we know you could be shorter and your friend could not be a legit 5’10, if you get called short by women you’re likely not 5’9 because 5’9 guys don’t really get called short sounds like something that could happen at 5’7.
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@Bobby Lol 6/8ths is the same as 3/4ths!
Nik Ashton said on 9/Oct/19
@ K.A 188 ! - I have a hunch that the average man is shorter than about 6-7% of women. A fair percentage of men find that they are shorter than about 20-25% of women and it is not unusual for a man to 🐝 shorter than most women.
pov said on 9/Oct/19
@Christian 6”5 3/8
I don’t think the entire continent of europe is taller than the US? France, Spain, Portugal and south europe are smaller than the US. I think North Europe much is taller than the US, as well as the UK, and the rest of the world for that matter. And more than 1cm buddy. More like 3-4cm. US average is 176cm to me. But there are some taller states, I think texans are pretty tall for an American state for example.

@Progking. As I said I think we look into percentile’s too much and ignore common sense. Yes I am one of the tallest in the room by technicality, but not much taller than the average, I edge most average out by around 2-2.5 inches which isn’t that much . I don’t feel tall or look tall next to legit barefoot 5”10 178cm man. I feel tall should start at 187cm atleast
Sakz said on 9/Oct/19
@K.A 188 Exactly. I understand why some people don't consider 6'0 tall but I think modern day inflation and the concept of having to tower people plays into it which is wrong. Statistically it's tall in most places, though just about. It is, however, normal to feel tallish in certain situations where there are more people around, in which case the likelihood of seeing tall people increases.
pov said on 9/Oct/19
So basically Wiki descirbes the average dutch man as 180.8cm. But if you type in the “what is the average height for a dutch man” in google in dutch, and go on wiki, and translate the page. It says 21 years and older (dutch origin) average height is 183.8cm, and I estimated 184cm. And the 180.8cm is for cities with ethnic minorities.

I found an article by TNO about obesity in the Netherlands in dutch which I translated in English:
“At the age of 21, boys of Dutch descent are on average 183.8cm and girls are 170.7cm. Children of Turkish and Moroccan descent are longer than they were in 1997, but are 6-8cm smaller than children of Dutch descent”

White dutch average 183-184cm.
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 9/Oct/19
@Litenko

So, you're implying that anything under 170 and 180 are classified as short? I'm not sure I believe that. I'm a 177/178 guy and I felt above average in downtown Athens in Greece. I also went to a concert and I was standing next to two other guys. One was shorter than I was, I'm guessing like a strong 5'8, maybe 5'8.5 and the other one looked like he was 6'0 range as he was noticeably taller than me but not by a lot. Even in that situation, I felt above average because I noticed other people that were shorter than I was. So, I would not say that 180cm is average for Europe as a whole, maybe 178cm is the average for Europe as a whole.
Greg said on 9/Oct/19
@TheBat it depends because I have really tall friends and some of them really short or a couple average. There’s some that are between 6’3-6’5+ a lot of 6’3 guys actually a few 6’2. There’s a 5’11ish guy and a few 5’9s, a 5’8 range guy, a 5’11.5ish guy, one guy who’s like about 5’10 could be a fraction off. And a 6 footer. I think I’m usually in the top few tallest but not the tallest one unless I’m hanging with below 6 footers. Yeah in my state the average for men is definitely not 5’10, more 5’8.5-5’9 or so. I think most averages are skewed because they aren’t measured I doubt that they would be able to measure the majority of the general population and sometimes it could be with shoes/ or self reported. 5’8 is a figure I’m willing to believe for average as opposed to 5’10 even like a weak 5’9.
Bego said on 9/Oct/19
@TheBat What article?
Greg said on 9/Oct/19
@Kourosh I’m guessing 5’8.75 you’d be about 6/8ths taller than a guy like Big Rob. I remember you mentioned before you where a weak 5’9 if I remember correctly? Also like Rob said measure yourself because for all we know you could be shorter and your friend could not be a legit 5’10, if you get called short by women you’re likely not 5’9 because 5’9 guys don’t really get called short sounds like something that could happen at 5’7.
Sean william Winter said on 9/Oct/19
the bat how did you feel at 5.10.5 i measured 5,10.25 at 2 pm stadiometer feel only slight above average my 17 yr old cousin turned 17 8 months ago hes at least 5'11 but prob close to 6ft i wish i was just that little bit taller. id like to hit 180 cm evening hieght. jelous my cousin dad is 6'1 and his mom is 5'5 to 5'6. if i measured him i reckon hed be 182 cm.
Sean william Winter said on 9/Oct/19
the bat how did you feel at 5.10.5 i measured 5,10.25 at 2 pm stadiometer feel only slight above average my 17 yr old cousin turned 17 8 months ago hes at least 5'11 but prob close to 6ft i wish i was just that little bit taller.
Litenko said on 9/Oct/19
Lell said on 8/Oct/19
@Pov

You're absolutely right dude. Here in Europe we have other thresholds for metric and it's basically like:

170 cm: short

180 cm: average

190 cm: tall

That's how we perceive height.



don't take Europe average because it depends on location. like in USA. different states different averages. 180 average is a joke. I can say a lot of country with 173-176 average.
K.A 188 ! said on 9/Oct/19
@EVERYONE
Now let us end this once and for all
6 FOOT barefoot as an evening height is tall.
You don't need to tower everybody you see to be considered tall.

As a man the most important thing is to be taller than 97% of women because for most men nothing is as annoying as seeing women taller than you. And at 6 foot you are comfortably taller than the average woman on heels.
Now as for comparing yourself to other guys keep in mind that the world as never been as populated as it is today so encountering guys your height or taller on daily basis on should not bother you at all...
Have in mind that is not just height that sticks in people's memory... You proportions wide shoulders ,long arms-length ,long face, or thin legs all this affects perception

Look at Angel Did Maria
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Look at this pitture he is with ozil
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Someone may think that Di Maria is atleast 6 foot but in reality he is 177 or 178 but due to this proportions and frame he looks taller.

So 6 foot is still a normal tall height You will never be seen as average at 6 ft.
But of course people this days are obsessed with towering so the desire to be taller will always be there and therefore it depends on the individual.
Kourosh said on 9/Oct/19
@Rob
if my friend is solid 5'10 and when we stand face to face, and my eyes are at middle of his nose,and
and my other friend who is solid 5'8 and my eyes are top of his eyebrow,how tall would you say i am? in metric or foot and inches?

it is funny i get called short often by women
Editor Rob
Sounds like you're near 175 range about 5ft 9 maybe, but always best taking measurments to be sure ;)
Emil said on 9/Oct/19
@Johan 185

Yes I am Danish, bro. What about you?
I read somewhere that the average male height for younger guys is around 182.5 cm, but they were self reported claims. I still find it believable as an average for early morning/noon though. That'd put the average low for young Danish guys around 181 cm, which is plausible to assume
TheBat said on 9/Oct/19
Is anyone here know what your group of friends' heights are in real life? I'm one of the taller ones in my group at 5'10.25"-5'10.5" while two of my male friends are around 5'5" and 5'6", one is 5'11.25"-5'11.5", two others are 6'0 1/8" and 6'1", and three others range from 5'7"-5'9". As for female friends, the four of them range from 5'0"-5'6".

@Greg

Definitely makes sense, especially regarding sleep and tension. I do know the state I live in is quite high in terms of average height at the 5'10". I see a lot of people around that height (especially young college age men) and the NY Times reported that in a article sometime in 2018. I know California is listed at 5'8" when you count the diverse population.
Shaun McCreary said on 9/Oct/19
Hi Rob, are there any reputable online stores (U.S shipping) to buy shoes like the Nike Turbo Shox brand new that you know of? I have never seen any of the Shox shoes in-store and going to non-official brand shoe stores might have them but they are usually used shoes and by that time have been broken in and the height that they give you are worn down by then. I had that experience with Reax where they only gave me about a solid inch rather than about 1.25-ish inch. Thanks in advance!
Editor Rob
They did kind of stop selling shox for a while but on Nike's online store there are some like TL and R4 - the price is ridiculous though. £130 or £150 in the UK for Nike Shox...
Progking said on 8/Oct/19
@pov 4th tallest in room is 85th percentile, that is enough to be considered tall. I am 6'0-6'0.5 and feel tall in a room with a good number of guys, unless they are like all dutch lol. When there are 4-5 guys taller than me i still feel tall but not too tall. I usually feel just a bit above average in more crowded areas, such as downtown in the busy city or in a shopping mall. But i think im still right at the beginning of tall in general.
Tessa Van Nunen said on 8/Oct/19
@Pov, I agree. For a British guy you know a lot about our european perceptions. My mother is from Belgium and father from Holland I have lived in both growing up, currently in Holland. I dont know why British and Americans say 6 foot is 'tall', I originally though 6 foot must have been somewhere like 190-200cm but when I converted it, it's only 182.88, that is basically average if not below average. In holland they say average is 185cm, but realistically it's 183-184cm, and in belgium we say average is 180cm, but realistically it's 179cm. But either way 6 foot' isn't tall, but it is a good height, in the average range. :)
Myself said on 8/Oct/19
@Tessa Van Nunen
Definitely small
Greg said on 8/Oct/19
@Zober yeah you hit the genetic lottery I would consider yourself lucky maybe you took after another family member who was tall.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 8/Oct/19
@pov
Why do you think that the entire continent of Europe is that much taller than US? I'd say maybe Europe's 1cm taller but no more. There are some European countries where the average is lower than US so that brings down the average.

@Greg
So just because Rob lists Rock at 6'3" and 6'2.5", it must be automatically true?
Canson said on 8/Oct/19
@Greg: that’s fair. He has him half inch below as this was recent when he met him. But the pics with Vernon Davis or Barkley are also what I went off
Greg said on 8/Oct/19
@TheBat yeah that girl couldn’t have been more than like 5’9.5-5’9.75 also 5’10 was possible but nothing over she wasn’t 6’0 or even 5’11 I feel that height range usually has a lot of inflators. Yeah I think it depends on the amount of sleep and like how much tension you put on your back. I’m usually bang on 5’11 out of bed, the 5’10.75-5’10 7/8ths was when I woke up at like 6 am but upon going back to bed I managed to retain the normal height. I usually get around 5’10.5 or just over in the afternoon. My usual low is 5’10.25-5’10 3/8ths 5’10 is an extreme low for me I hardly measure I’ve been at least a fraction over even after extreme hard work and exercises.
Greg said on 8/Oct/19
@Shorty Mortyy cmon we gotta go morty let’s go hurry up! Even Mr. Rick Sanchez himself would agree with me, I’m telling you height isn’t that big of a deal as it seems outside in the real world. I am not saying I don’t understand heightism but to be fair yeah it can happen to anyone at any height like Christian and I where saying. I understand you might have a few insecurities but just because you do doesn’t mean they apply to everyone else. Nobody calls a rich short successful guy having a Napoleon complex, look at Danny Devito he’s even shorter than you! I have another friend who’s under 5’6 and he knows he’s short he’s about 5’4 more or less and people like him he’s a chill guy and he’s gotten with more girls than probably myself 🤷🏻‍♂️.
Greg said on 8/Oct/19
@Canson to be fair Rob has him at 6’3 peak and 6’2.5 current I’m more inclined to believe that not to discredit your friend or anything but yeah.
Greg said on 8/Oct/19
@Pov how did you know who was in the 5’10 range and 5’11? Or vice versa where you rounding them up or where they exactly 5’10 or 5’11 flat what if a guy was 5’10.75 would you group him in the 5’10 or 5’11? Same with like 5’11 and 6’0 because I would find it hard to believe that they where all the flat marks unless you rounded them up and did you account for any footwear advantages and disadvantages? Nah 5’10/5’11 is not tall maybe above average getting into the tallish zone like 5’10.5+ afternoon could be viewed as the tallish zone in most places where the average is close to 5’9. And well I’m surprised because if they are a flat 5’10 they would be looking below your nose if you’re 6’0.5, because I’m 5’10.5 and I would most likely be looking just over the tip of your nose in most cases( I’m generally looking at the bridge of a 6 footers nose) 6’2 is a very tall or legit tall height. Both 6’0 and 6’2 are at different two levels even though it’s only 2 inches apart but both are considered tall.
Zober said on 8/Oct/19
My mom is 174, my dad 175 and im 192.6-7 out of bed and 190 at an extreme low, i know people with much taller parents who are shorter than me
Lell said on 8/Oct/19
@Pov

You're absolutely right dude. Here in Europe we have other thresholds for metric and it's basically like:

170 cm: short

180 cm: average

190 cm: tall

That's how we perceive height.
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 8/Oct/19
@khaled taban

You are misconstruing my words outright. A man who is 5'9 will not feel short by any stretch of the imagination, but will he necessarily feel tall? No. I'm 5'10, do I feel tall? No, I don't. I only feel above average in best-case scenarios, but sometimes I can feel average height. Does that mean I am short? No, it doesn't.

Onto the children anecdote. Every child thinks that adults are big. So, to a child who is like 4'10, a person is 5'9 will seem like a tower. It's not an exaggeration. When was the last time you stood next to a child 10 and younger? How did you feel in terms of stature, tall right? It's not insulting to compare an adult height of 5'9 to being tall next to children. Also notice, that wasn't my only comparison. I also mentioned old people, Asians, and women under 5'5. You must have selective comprehension if you only picked up on my example of 5'9 being tall next to children.
Sakz said on 8/Oct/19
@Zeke It's a normal trend if your mum is short. My dad was 5'11.5 peak and my mum is around 5'0, which meant my brother ended up around 5'6 (pretty much in the middle).

@pov Well if you were the 4th tallest you're still tall. You just happened to be surrounded by taller people which is a normal occurrence unless you're very tall. Going by what you're saying you do consider 6'0 tall, just not standout or solid tall which is normal at that height. I consider 6'0 weak tall with 6'1 becoming more solid tall.
Johan 185 cm said on 8/Oct/19
Emil said on 7/Oct/19
@mrfunnyguy

I know us Scandinavian guys are tall, but we're not 184-188 cm on average lol. I'm 183 cm and still slightly above average for instance

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If I remember right you were Danish ? I see that conscripts were measured in the 180 cm range, whats your guess for the overall population? I just wonder since here its not more than 5'11" range 180-182 cm and yet every report says we are the tallest. Without the elderly it was around 183 cm give or take some mm's.
Johan 185 cm said on 8/Oct/19
pov said on 8/Oct/19
6”0 is tall by technicality nowadays. And I think the number has a psychological impact “start of tall”. No european kid who uses the metric system thinks, “I want to be 183cm tall when I grow up!” 😂. More like 190+

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3 inches over average is enough to be classified as tall. So in the vast majority of countries including the UK and US it is tall. I don't think kids really do that here in Europe pov. There is no real milestone that kids reach for like in the imperial system. Most adult men do try for 180 cm though if they are under it.
pov said on 8/Oct/19
6”0 is tall by technicality nowadays. And I think the number has a psychological impact “start of tall”. No european kid who uses the metric system thinks, “I want to be 183cm tall when I grow up!” 😂. More like 190+
pov said on 8/Oct/19
@greg
Out of the 25 people, 3 were taller than me. Let’s say 4 were below 5”9, leaving 15 left. Out of those 15, 7 were 5”9, 7 were 5”10, 3 were 5”11. And me at 6”0.5. So the majority were at 5”9/10 range, and I wes technically taller but not taller by much, not enough to be considered “tall”. My legit 5”10 barefoot friends don’t even consider me tall, and I don’t feel tall next to them either. 6”0 is tall by technicality in the fact that it’s above average, even 5”10 or 5”11 could be considered “tall” by technicality. But realistically it isn’t a distinguishing tall. I think 6”2 is where a real tall starts.
Canson said on 8/Oct/19
@Greg: Rock’s only 6’2” according to my 6’3” friend who met him. Same friend met Charles Barkley not long after retirement and said he looked 6’4/6’5 6’4.5ish
Redwing said on 7/Oct/19
KA 188@

Sorry to hear about you’re mum bro, You’re quite a tall person; you’re parents inc you’re mum was sorta tall and it’s amazing how u outgrew you’re dad. My mum is 162 cm and my dad is about 183 cm.
Nik said on 7/Oct/19
@ mrfunnyguy - There is no way Swedish men are so tall!
Nik said on 7/Oct/19
@ Sakz - That's true!
Tessa Van Nunen said on 7/Oct/19
Hi,
I am from Holland and I am 189cm, in the USA would I be small / medium / tall?
Thanks, best wishes,
Tessa.
TheBat said on 7/Oct/19
@K.A 188

Very interesting. My dad was 5'10" flat at peak and is now currently 5'9 7/8". For him being 65 he's maintained his height very well. As for my mom she was 5'9.25" peak and is now 5'9" flat.
Bobby 1.78m said on 7/Oct/19
@K.A 188 !

It's okay. I had to learn English when I was three since my primary language was Greek at the time. I'm technically bilingual myself, though I will admit that my fluency in Greek has dimmed over the years but I still understand 80% of what I hear.
Greg said on 7/Oct/19
@Pov also I don’t understand how 6’0.5 isn’t tall? If you’re the 4th tallest out of 25 guys wouldn’t that make you tall? 6’2+ is a solid tall and can even be referred to as very tall in most places.
Greg said on 7/Oct/19
@Pov The Rocks 6’3 but I get what you mean on how he inflates to 6’4 and 6’5. I know 2 guys respectively who claim 5’11 and 6’0 ones like 5’9 range and the other around 5’10, both will tell you that they have been officially measured at the doctors without shoes.. 👀 but here’s the funny part. They don’t wear lifts or try to force posture in Fact the one who’s like 5’9 usually wears thin sneakers rarely even a 1 inch style. He’s not bad looking just a little in his shell and rarely goes out anymore. But he would slouch and refers to himself as a tall guy, yet I edge him out noticeably. The other one I’m at eye level with but I edge him out though he puts his hair up so it gives him like over an inch to try and seem taller but when we compared I noticed I was taller he’s probably about 5’10 flat or a few mm over saying he’s a legit 6’0. And exactly they hate when someone calls them out, I usually call anybody who inflates by more than half an inch.
Emil said on 7/Oct/19
@mrfunnyguy

I know us Scandinavian guys are tall, but we're not 184-188 cm on average lol. I'm 183 cm and still slightly above average for instance
Greg said on 7/Oct/19
@Ezy 5’11.25 is above average
K.A 188 ! said on 7/Oct/19
@ZEKE

I think your case is similar to Jaden Smith, Will Smith is a strong 6ft1 while Jaden is 5ft7-5ft8 range,and that's because his Mum is about 150cm or bang on 5ft (153 cm).

But you are 19 and maybe a very late developer... don't be surprise you may still add 2-4 cm if your growth plates are not fused already.
mrfunnyguy said on 7/Oct/19
@Ezy I don't claim 180cm, I claim 185-186cm. I have measured myself with different tape measures, with a ruler and with the height marks that are in the entrances in stores, and I always get the exact same thing. I can honestly say that half, or maybe a little bit more than that, of the young guys I see downtown are taller than me. I'm under the impression too that many swedes tend to underestimate other people's height, and even sometimes downgrade themselves, so I'm not surprised that many people here think that the average in Sweden is 5'11 or something like that.
Nik Ashton said on 7/Oct/19
@ khaled taban - I still think that 5’9” is solid average, I’m not saying it is a tall height but in many situations you can feel tall at 5’9”! My view is that a 5’9” male may on average feel he is tall on more occasions than he feels short.
Nik Ashton said on 7/Oct/19
@ Greg - You are very welcome!
khaled taban said on 7/Oct/19
@Bobby 1.78m ,You didn't say 5'10" is tall , but It's ridiculous that you compared 5'9" to children height by saying 5'9" is only tall among the children , Don't you think It's exaggerating ?
I'd go for Kindergarten and stand next to children there so I can feel tall , according to you !!
Greg said on 7/Oct/19
@K.A 188 Which is fine and I wasn’t making fun of you, I speak 3 languages myself but sometimes proof reading or just double checking goes a long way :) that’s good. And I’m sorry to hear that man, my father passed away a few years ago. I believe mine was around 5’11 peak give or take just guessing based on photos of him earlier and mom I think was between 5’3 and 5’4 peak.
Bobby 1.78m said on 7/Oct/19
@khaled taban

😂 What? I never said that 5'10 was tall, and I never said that 5'9 was short either. What's wrong with you?
K.A 188 ! said on 7/Oct/19
@GREG
Peace and no worries mate. ..
I speak 4 languages between, Italian,English, Creaole, and Spanish maybe at times I explain myself in a difficult way.

Height is an interesting topic between how tall were your parents in their peak?
mine,
Father was 181 peak today 177.
My mum about was about 170 according to my Dad ,(i never met her though but she passed away when I was still an infant).
Nik Ashton said on 7/Oct/19
@ Zeke - Nowt wrong with 5’7.5”! (Or any height.)
Importer said on 7/Oct/19
@Zeke depends on your mother’s height too.
pov said on 7/Oct/19
@greg
Of course the average height in europe is higher than america, who I am disagreeing with that? So I don’t know why you made that point? Lol. I’m addressing the fact that you said that everywhere in America has the ‘same’ average height. I am a brand ambassador for the company I work at, so I am fortunate to travel around a lot not like that should concern you, but I have been to the US on multiple occasions as well as mainland europe. And just like europe’s average vary from countries. E.g. france to sweden. America’s average vary’s from states. E.g. texas to new york. Saying the entire usa has the exact same average height is deluded to say the least.
Nik Ashton said on 7/Oct/19
@ Greg - That’s what I implied!
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 7/Oct/19
@shorty mortyy
I've never heard a short successful man being accused of having Napoleon complex, or at least just for that reason. That term's mostly used when a short guy's preceived to compensate his short height by acting overly macho or aggressive. I do agree with you though that the term is overused and misused. But heightism isn't a one way street. There are stereotypes and derogatory names for tall people as well.
Zeke said on 6/Oct/19
You know you got cucked in the genetics department when your dad is 6’1 and your only 5’7 1/2 at 19 years old. I just hope I get taller in a year or two...
Nik said on 6/Oct/19
@ Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) - You can include older people and people from shorter areas too, also short men of all ages could consider 5'9" to be tall.
Ezy said on 6/Oct/19
@mrfunnyguy
Your'e clearly a "Funny Guy" if you believe the average height to be 184-188 in Sweden, because either you are a 175 guy claiming to be 180 or you are just deluded. I live in Sweden(Kalmar) and from my perspective the average is closer to 178 rather than 188, and I am what is considered average, which is 181.
Importer said on 6/Oct/19
@mrfunnyguy
Average cant be more than 180cm.
pov said on 6/Oct/19
Everyone wants to be taller, even 6”7 tyson fury claims to be 6”9. 6”2 dwayne johnson claims to be 6”5. Everyone feels conscious about things like height, looks, weight, you name it. If they didn't they’d be lying or the perfect human, my bet is lying. I have a cousin for example, really good looking guy, jawline etc, and he’s even a doctor for god’s sake, and he has no problem pulling girls. But he’s honestly the most height conscious person I know, he wears thick soled shoes, hates taking off his shoes, stands on his tiptoes in all our family pictures, you’ll never see him slouching . By my educated guess he’s 5”8.5 but he claims 5”10 sometimes 5”11, and he gets really defensive and angry if someone claims he’s not (which I do all the time 😂). But that goes to show even guys not that short can feel height conscious, yes we have a fairly tall family, but he’s got the looks, job, girls, and he’s still conscious. So it really happens to anyone.
Greg said on 6/Oct/19
5’9 is average but I guess if a 5’9 person is among a group full of 5’0ers they can feel tall so it’s all relative but to the general population probably not.
Greg said on 6/Oct/19
@K.A I am free to say whatever I want as my opinion towards height and will Continue to do so, height doesn’t matter in the real world but it still interests me. A lot of people want to be taller and some want to be shorter it varies from person to person. I don’t usually talk about wanting to be taller that much out of this web site. My height is pretty decent actually but as the saying goes the grass is always greener on the other side.

@Nik Thank you at least somebody here understands 🤷🏻‍♂️ I feel like some posters here are hard headed.

@Canson Well yeah diet plays a role and so do environmental factors of course I know people who slept poorly and ate awfully and did not exercise and still managed to be very talk due to genetics alone. Well I’m not exactly sure on my fathers height he might have been somewhere like 5’11ish peak and before death I think he was 5’8.5-5’9ish and my mom probably like 5’3-5’4. My great uncle however was about 6’6-6’7 so in his day that was extremely tall seeing he grew up in the early 20th century. My dad would always say he was scared that I would end up that tall I guess his wish came true 😂 I wouldn’t want to be that tall but 6’1-6’2 wouldn’t hurt. My posture is awful I find myself standing awfully and hunched over when walking in the mirror, when my chiro examined my back she said something was uneven so it might be causing me to under measure but just by how much is a good question. She told me to do posture correcting exercises and other stuff that will help me recover from the damage and my accident so hopefully even if I gain a fraction I would be delighted.
Greg said on 6/Oct/19
@Pov half of what you said can also be referred to as “the dumbest thing I heard” lololol, Europe and America are close to each other in size but that does not have anything to do with it! The average in Europe without a doubt is going to be higher than America that’s just a given. Yes all the states basically will have similar averages maybe they will differ by what 0.01 or something ?! Oh whoa such a big difference that’s crazy man go preach nonsense somewhere else. Did you personally go around the world conducting the studies for measurements? No didn’t think so who are you trying to fool buddy?
Greg said on 6/Oct/19
@K.A 188 Now you’re just making false assumptions, I was simply being polite and telling you to type properly because it’s hard to understand you sometimes. I would say that to any poster taller or shorter my height or whatever it has nothing to do with it. It wasn’t meant with any disrespect height has nothing to do with it, notice how I am not aggressive towards Christian and Canson, even Ellis who are much taller than you.
Greg said on 6/Oct/19
@mrfunnyguy no it won’t.
pov said on 6/Oct/19
Went to my mates uni flat party yesterday. Everyone there was either a uni student or recent graduates born “96 or after. There were about lets say approx 25 men in the room. At 6”0.5, and I was the 4th tallest guy in the room. The 3 people who were taller than me was around 6”4 one was around 6”3 one was around 6”1.5. I’d say the average guy in the room was around a strong 5”10. From this I gathered two points, the 90’s/2000’s generation are slightly taller than the previous generation who’s average is 5”9.5. And 6”0 is not tall. 6”2 for me remains the start of a solid tall.
Nik Ashton said on 6/Oct/19
@ grizz - Overall 5’9” may not be a tall height in any western country but it is slightly above average in a few western countries. In many social situations in the west a man of 5’9”
can feel tall on occasions.
Sakz said on 6/Oct/19
@Bobby Well among short people someone 5'9 would feel tall so technically it's not entirely false. Of course it's not going to be a regular occurrence and the likelihood of it happening may not be high in the West, but there are countries with low averages. Also I believe Nik lives in a small village where there are shorter people if I'm not mistaken so his perception is different.

@Johan 185cm Exactly it's blown out of proportion. You don't have to be tall to tower people.
khaled taban said on 6/Oct/19
I admit that 5'9" isn't tall and even short , but It's not nice from you what you said. And what do you mean exactly by "children" , boys who are 5 years old or what ??!! It's clearly an insult, It's laughable that you aren't even that far off 5'9" , and 5'10" isn't tall anyway.
And if you compare 5'9" to kindergarten children , then you have to compare 6'0" to school boys since the difference is only 3 inches.
khaled taban said on 6/Oct/19
@grizz , I really doubt that you will feel tall there ! 3 days ago , I saw a girl who is 12 and 5'9" , I took antidepression that day.
khaled taban said on 6/Oct/19
@Nik Ashton, No It's nowhere near tall , not even 5'10".
You CAN call yourself "tallish" , If you are at least a strong 5'10" guy (5'10.5" min) , with being 6'0" and up the start of "tall".
So 5'9" isn't a tall height , It's barely an average height unless you are talking about Asia , that's another story.
Nik Ashton said on 6/Oct/19
@ Grizz - No, no, no!

Not all men in the world are young western men, most aren’t!
mrfunnyguy said on 6/Oct/19
@Rampage(-_-_-)Clover
Visit Sweden, and your perception of average height will be altered, I can guarantee you.
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 6/Oct/19
@Nik Ashton

I understand what you're trying to do, Nik, but please stop saying things like that.

A height of 5'9 isn't short by any means, but I doubt a guy who is that height will be called tall except by children and Asian people, and to an extent, certain women who are under 5'5.

@Grizz

Maybe not in Kindergarten, but certainly only by children and certain women.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 6/Oct/19
Ok, 188cm is not average ANYWHERE in the world
grizz said on 6/Oct/19
Nik Ashton said on 5/Oct/19
Men of 5’9” can definitely feel tall at times!
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Yeah, sure... in kindergarden.
Canson said on 6/Oct/19
@C-Mo: my intent isn’t to upset you but I simply took some of what you said about people who do this are....... and dissected it and I’m showing you how it sounds When it comes out. And I didn’t say anything about you (C-Mo) make yourself taller. I said the logic of that is. You consider that bean counter I also consider what you are saying the same in the other direction is what I was saying.

Canson said on 5/Oct/19
@C-Mo: but by that same logic “bean counter” I can say that not rounding down because you don’t fall all the way there, is a bit of a “bean counter” or a bit “pressed” to make yourself taller due to insecurity
Canson said on 6/Oct/19
@Greg: yea I know what you meant. Unfortunate that it couldn’t be a bit higher. lol I ate lots of junk food growing up. In your case, it may be genetics. How tall is your father and your mother? Also with your posture, I didn’t realize it was bad. But if it is you may have some height in the tank.
K.A 188 said on 6/Oct/19
@GREG
you tend to be a bit aggressive towards the taller posters here why?
And again you are always the one who says that height does not matter yet every time you keep talking about how you wish you were taller,not just here on celeb-.heights but even in other sites
shorty mortyy said on 6/Oct/19
Johan 185 cm
dont expect Greg to understand short males problems, when he is not under 5'6.
heightism is real. studies have shown it
as I can see Greg is trying to say that if people want to bully someone they always will have a reason. but that is simply not true. your appearance influence how people will treat you(it includes height) its not just black and white.
for example if you are short and succesfull people will say you have napoleon complex
K.A 188 said on 6/Oct/19
@GREG
you tend to be a bit aggressive towards the taller posters here why?
And again you are always the one who says that height does not matter yet every time you keep talking about how you wish you were taller,not just here on celeb-.heights but even in other sites
Johan 185 cm said on 6/Oct/19
Grayloth said on 5/Oct/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8
"Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 4/Oct/19
@mrfunnyguy
Average for Swedish men is 184-188? Lol, even Dutch men aren't that tall."

Don't feed the troll.

@Johan 185 cm

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These are the only statistics I found on CBS.nl (they are 5 years old) and they state that the average reported height is 182,4 cm for men in 20-30 years of age and 182,8 cm for men 30-40 years old. I would then argue that one would remove at least a half a cm from those numbers because many, especially young, people tend to exaggerate their height.

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Johan 185 cm said on 6/Oct/19
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@Johan Yeah because my point is nobody really cares the quicker you realize it the better your life will be. People are going to find anything to single out and just try to put somebody down over be it their looks, hobbies, personality or just interests. You shouldn’t worry about what others think of you I’ve seen really tall people get treated like circus acts so again you should just not worry about it I know plenty of short people that don’t experience any mistreatment that’s just a shallow mindset.

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The difference being Greg is that it is acceptable in our society to disrespect the very short. Weight/appearance/gender/sexual orientation for example are different. Negative comments are frowned upon by society in the west, making jokes at the expense of some short guy at work? Just a bit of fun. It would be great if heightism didn't exist but it does and it requires more attention not people telling short guys to get over it, or that it doesn't exist.

Height is more important to some than others, look at how popular this site is for one, people do care and my point is that a bunch of 5'9"-5'10 guys should stop whining as they have nothing to complain about.

They literally tower a guy who is 5'4" and under.
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@Canson when I say unfortunately I don’t mean my height I mean the fact that I didn’t end up a little taller makes me wish I actually didn’t mess up my discs, slept longer and had a better diet growing up I think I had a chance for a strong 5’11 or at least a legit 5’11. Sleeping like 2-3 hours while I was still growing really took its toll. I do take glucosamine and I do posture exercises because my posture is awful and I have some damaged discs so maybe I could increase my height by .5-.75 or an inch of hidden height but I wouldn’t be growing by any means. I notice I have terrible posture.
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@Khaled Taban okay so if you’re a legit 5’9 guy you shouldn’t be feeling short amongst people. It’s perfectly average. The reason why I said 5’7 is because at that height you’re a few inches below the average which is 5’9 in most places. I know what 5’7 and 5’9 is in cm lol, your heights fine perhaps take a break from height or this forum if it’s really bothering you that much bruv.
Grayloth said on 5/Oct/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8
"Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 4/Oct/19
@mrfunnyguy
Average for Swedish men is 184-188? Lol, even Dutch men aren't that tall."

Don't feed the troll.

@Johan 185 cm

Click Here

These are the only statistics I found on CBS.nl (they are 5 years old) and they state that the average reported height is 182,4 cm for men in 20-30 years of age and 182,8 cm for men 30-40 years old. I would then argue that one would remove at least a half a cm from those numbers because many, especially young, people tend to exaggerate their height.
Nik Ashton said on 5/Oct/19
@ Meltdown - I like your name!
Nik Ashton said on 5/Oct/19
@ Greg - I agree with everything you said to khaled taban on 4/Oct/19!
Nik Ashton said on 5/Oct/19
Men of 5’9” can definitely feel tall at times!
TheBat said on 5/Oct/19
@Greg

Funny how the 5'9.5" girl claimed 6'0" and you noticeably edged her out, shows how ridiculous people can be with their claims. I as well haven't seen many girls inflate dramatically. Also I believe saw you mention that you measured at the 5'10.75" mark as well, interestingly I have sometimes been measured at 5'10.25" in early evening and weirdly even 5'10" flat at an extreme low after doing hard exercises one time. But around noon to 5:00 I consistently measure at 5'10.5" both with a stadiometer and in home measurements with a 10 inch can or a book.
pov said on 5/Oct/19
@greg
The ‘same average across america’, wow.. That’s probably one of the dumbest things ive ever heard. You do know the USA is 9.8km2 and Europe is 10.8km2. Usa is pretty much the same size as the whole of europe. Some states are twice if not three times the size of some european countries. Americans averages do vary from states. The english and welsh, and scottish average different. What makes you think the entire 50 states of america have the same average? In my experience texans are taller and slightly on the heavier side then other american states. New yorkers tend to be on the shorter side, high levels of ethnic diversity etc. There isn’t the ‘same’ average across america my friend.
Canson said on 5/Oct/19
@Greg: I wouldn’t call it unfortunate because it’s still above average. You’re not as tall as you desired to be but you’re not by any means a midget or even short. I know what you mean too about your out of bed. Try glucosamine and staying hydrated as you may be able to retain more height for longer periods with it. Maybe not 5’10.5 but you may still hit a solid 5’10 3/8 at a low with it
c-mo said on 5/Oct/19
@ Canson

I am neither a bean counter nor "pressed" nor do I make myself taller ....this s*it is starting to make me angry . how am I making myself taller are you kidding me or what

I claim either "176-177" or just 177cm to people . I am claiming a height that I AM and that I actually measure .

5'9 is 175.26cm . I wake at 178.3cm , after half an hour I am 177.5cm , after 2 horus I am around 177cm or a little bit below . after 5-6 hours I am 176.1 - 176.2cm . at the end of the day I am 175.9cm and on heavy days I can fall a smidge below that but I am always around the 176cm mark in the evening and never far off .

I do measure around / not far off 177cm for at least 3 horus a day and especially around 176cm (give or take a bit) for most of the day . 177cm is 5'9.7 and 176cm is 5'9.3 . on no time of the day I measure 5'9 flat and in the early morning I am even 177.5 - 178cm range so basically around 5'10 . and before you come up with "but you can measure 5'9.22 at nightz which is basically 5'9" ....no it doesnt work like that ...even 5'9.22 is still higher than 5'9 ...and that is a NIGHT height and it is a height I measure on heavier days where I walked a lot and maybe carried heavy bags from the grocery stores home etc. ....on no time of the day do I measure 5'9 flat . I am a weak 5'9.5 guy . in metrics I claim 177cm OR "176-177" which is absolutely fair ...but you will not understand and agree with me anyway ...

making myself taller by claiming 177cm ....LOL . it is the other way around you want me to claim 5'9 flat even though I am taller than that on every part of the day (even at night) and even though I even am 5'10 in the morning . so YOU want to make me shorter than I am ...I am not trying to make me taller than I am .


this is just silly . and I am fed up with discussing this . you can think what you want . if you want you can have the opinion that I shall claim 5'7 I dont care ....it will not change reality and it wont change my height .

case closed for me . I dont want to discuss this nonsense any further . I like to talk to you but if you want to talk with me choose another topic because I am sick of this one


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@ khaled taban

you seem to ignore what I am telling you....and you talk as if 5'9 is 5'5 or something

you say :

"Being 6'0" is something totally different , everyone respects you , most girls won't reject you for being short , and no shallow girl would say ( I don't date a guy below 5'10" ) to you"


but I already told you that people respect me , I have no problems with dating and it is very easy for me to get women (no brag) , and I feel to have a decent height in general . I am around your height . so whats going on with you ? it is just in your head tbh . I think you have confidense issues ...thats your problem ...not your height

and I live in germany which is a tall country ...I doubt you live in a country where the average height is as high as germany so you should feel even more solid where you are than I do


so lol at 5'9 being a bad height ....it is not a perfect height but it is not bad at all ...it is a decent height to be and I really can not understand why you talk like that . and yes I also wish I was taller like around 6'0 but I still KNOW that my height is decent . we also are talking about evening heights here and 5'9 in the evening is a VERY average height . I am 5'9.25 in the evening


btw. as I told you I was training in boxing and other sports for years and I never officially competed but I have done a lot of heavy full contact sparring with guys of all kind of heights and in the gyms I was there were a bunch of tall guys who were impressed by me and respected me a lot . there was even a 6'4 german guy who found me very strong and tough . a 6'1 guy said to my brother " your brother showed everybody ! " ....a lot of tall guys respect me and would not want to f*ck with me . so how does this work with you saying that you wont get respected at 5'9 ? ...and not I am not making this all up either . and no I am not saying "I am the best and toughest man in the world" ...I am just telling you my experiences


and one more f**king time regarding women : I have ZERO problems to attract women . no matter where I go there have been a lot of women who were interested in me . they often check me out . I have kissed more than 30 women in my life probably (definitely more than 20) . and I was even 2cm shorter a few years ago due to back problems . I actually think before my back damage I was a bit shorter than I am now in my 30s . I think at age 20 for example I was rather 175cm at night instead of 175.7 - 176cm like now

the only time I have problems to attract women is when I am overweight and/or have bad days where I am not in good mood or have confidense issues due to other problems in life


btw. there are also tall men who wish they were shorter . dont believe that men only want to be taller ...there are also men who would like to be shorter .

I have read of 2 guys online who were 186cm who wished they were 180cm and I knew a guy from a martial arts school who was around 187cm and he told me that he thinks he is a little too tall . I even read a post of a guy who is 182cm who said he wished he was 176cm lol


anyway ...trust me 5'9 is not a bad height at all . in fact it is a pretty cool height to be . it is not perfect and I can understand that you would like to be taller . but it is not short nor is it a bad height
khaled taban said on 5/Oct/19
@Greg , I am not 5'7" , that's 170cm and It's short as you claims because I know my height well . I am taller than actors like Tom Cruise , and Justin bieber who fall within the 5'7" range.
khaled taban said on 5/Oct/19
@Greg , I am real 5'9" guy , I've measured my height more than million times . My morning height is 176.5cm , and just before bed I am 175.1-175.4 depending on the daily activites , most of the time my low is 175.2cm unless my posture get worse , so I fall to 175cm flat.
khaled taban said on 5/Oct/19
@c-mo, "if we go by your logic then 6'0 is also a " woman height " because I sometimes see women who are 6'0" " .
I really doubt it , 5'9" is the 94-95% at best the 97% perecntage which isn't "rare" as you said , while 6'0" is taller than 99.5% , so It's definitely rare.
Take this list : (Kendall Jenner , Gigi Hadid , Kate Holmes , Taylor Swift , Kate Middelton , Ashley Graham , Zendaya , Kristen Ritter , Melania Trump , Mia Pia , Sophie Turner , Elle Fanning and Blake Lively.)All these women are nearly 5'9" , Do you want more ??
pov said on 5/Oct/19
@KhaledTalban I can see how 5”9 guys can feel short to be honest, but I wouldn’t say it’s “short”. You will always find pockets of people above average sometimes. For example, I was at a party the other day, and I was chatting to 3 men all of which where taller than my 6”0.5 frame. I could say wow i feel small, but I know im taller than the average person on the street. My opinion 5”9.5 is average, so if you’re 5”9 flat maybe you are ever so slightly below average, but not short
Canson said on 5/Oct/19
@Greg; I wasn’t really offended by it but annoyed is the word and not just what was said but because it appears he’s bashing people who round down just because that doesn’t favor him
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@Pov it’s not just Americans that inflate, everywhere around the world has height boosters as you may call it. The issue is it’s easier to inflate with the Imperial system compared to metric which is more precise but that still doesn’t stop people. Americans are not supposed to be “Big” unless by Big you meant fat stereotype which some of them are but not all. Maybe 5’8.5-5’9 is the average height for an American male, I don’t think Texans average 5’10-5’10.5 lololol where the hell did you pull that figure out of? It’s the same everywhere across America. The thing is people inflate due to one of two things and ego thing where they want to seem taller or because they have been measured incorrectly/ and or think they are taller so as a result claim a higher number just because someone else did and they did not bother to check.
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@Khaled Taban 5’9 is as average as it gets you are definitely not seeing many girls your height especially in America! Where the average is 5’4 you would be taller than most of them 🤯🤯. You’re either not 5’9 and most likely 5’7 and just haven’t measured yourself correctly. Being 5’9 is neutral it’s a decent height because would you rather have been 5’2 or something? Like genetics play a role in height but doesn’t mean just because your father was “short” that you ended up shorter because I know guys who ended up way taller than their fathers. Even when both parents where short, so that can’t be it 😂😂 any girl who says they want a guy 6’0+ can go and screw themselves that’s why many guys just inflate to reach imaginary cut off points. Firstly, You do not get respected more for being 6’0, it’s a good height yeah but at the end of the day if you’re a 5’9 loser you would be a 6’0 loser you don’t magically become a god. It’s all in your head. I was 5’9 at one point too and guess what I’m not that much taller now and when I was I didn’t give a damn I was still taller than most girls so you’re being bias and noticing taller heights because I gaurentee you that not all girls are taller than you.
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@Johan Yeah because my point is nobody really cares the quicker you realize it the better your life will be. People are going to find anything to single out and just try to put somebody down over be it their looks, hobbies, personality or just interests. You shouldn’t worry about what others think of you I’ve seen really tall people get treated like circus acts so again you should just not worry about it I know plenty of short people that don’t experience any mistreatment that’s just a shallow mindset.
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@Lell Yeah we are the same height then. I usually say almost 5’11 since we claim feet and inches here. On relaxed days I can get a higher measurement but if I have a lot of things to do that puts a strain on my spine I will drop to my low quickly.

@Canson Yeah usually 5’10.25 5’10 3/8ths is my low unfortunately.
Lell said on 5/Oct/19
@Greg

I measured about 179.5 cm lunchtime today. Yeah I used to get varying measurements because I tried out different ways of measuring but I'm never really sure how to do it correctly, if I have to bust a gut, how hard you need to press the cylinder and so on. I just go with 179 cm, or about 180 cm if somebody asks, I'm not short anyways so no idea to worry about the exact millimeter.
Canson said on 5/Oct/19
@Bobby: yea he said it was faulty too. Meaning if he’s 5’11” out of bed he’s 5’10.25 at a low most likely.
pov said on 5/Oct/19
I find Americans exaggerate their height the most. No idea why, I suppose it’s the idea of masculinity culture. In general, I find Americans quite short for a western and developed country. (not to offend anyone) In the UK we have a stereotype that Americans are big and tall, but in reality it’s not the case. From my experience I’d say the average american is around 176cm, but there are some taller and smaller states, Texans I would say average around 178-9m. In New York id say the average is around 174-5cm. But overall a strong 5”9 is the american average.
Canson said on 5/Oct/19
@C-Mo: but by that same logic “bean counter” I can say that not rounding down because you don’t fall all the way there, is a bit of a “bean counter” or a bit “pressed” to make yourself taller due to insecurity
khaled taban said on 5/Oct/19
@c-mo,I know exactly what I am saying and I am 5'9.1" , so I have the right to give my opinion about my height .
To be honest with you , I've never been happy with my height , considering the fact that I see girls about my height almost daily, which is merely laughable .
Convincing myself that being short is not a problem in the first place is better than convincing myself that 5'9" is not short ,as It would be only a waste of time.
I know many friends who tried to refer to 5'9" as a good height , but the majority of them are atleast 5'11" -6'0" so It doesn't make any sense.I know some claim I am trolling ...Well , I am not , and by the way there is no point from that , It wouldn't change anything.
The dissapointting fact , because your father is short , you have to be like him even If you wished your whole life to be tall.
Being 6'0" is something totally different , everyone respects you , most girls won't reject you for being short , and no shallow girl would say ( I don't date a guy below 5'10" ) to you . 6'0" is just a nice height.
At end of the day you probably disagree with me , however It's okay since everyone has a specific way of thinking.
As a 21 years old guy ,there is nothing I can do , I am trying to avoid thinking much of it .
All respect !
mrfunnyguy said on 5/Oct/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Just my opinion. Based on how tall I am and how tall people around me are, I can pretty sure say that the average swedish guy is a strong 6'1 or weak 6'2. So I think the average is around 184-188cm maybe.
Johan 185 cm said on 5/Oct/19
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@Johan that can literally happen to anyone of any height, even very tall guys sometimes get the Chitty end of the stick, this one 6’3ish kid I went to Highschool with was always made fun of for being tall and lanky and called stretch and a bunch of other nick names. If you’re short you should worry about what shallow girls say? Who cares like “do you actually want to date someone who is insecure with themselves to the point that they are nitpicking height?” Something that’s out of your control, damn like I have a big nose people bust on me all the time I just laugh it off lol. Like who cares? I even roast myself for it my point is there’s always going to be something someone’s going to pick out that they don’t like, you shouldn’t try to impress people. I think girls who are shallow are doing decent guys a favor by showing them who they shouldn’t be going after. And your friend didn’t get cheated on because he was short, just insecure childish women who don’t care about feelings want to prove something but in reality they are just showing how degenerate they are. I’m not short I’ve been cheated on more than just twice. People are scummy and you have to be careful who you trust.

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Greg are you really comparing someone who is very short to someone being very tall and saying its similar in our society? The guys who are very short do have it harder than anyone else and its not just the dating aspect. They get disrespected in their daily lifes all the time, its not in their heads and anyone over 5'6" does not experience this.

A guy like my friend who is 5'3" is 3.5 inches under the FEMALE average here. He is 8 inches shorter than the average guy. Thats like 5'1" in the US? Him getting cheated on is just a knock on effect of the direspect he receives. He also dates under his own value purely because of height. Like I said for the rest he is healthy/financially stable/home owner etc at only 28 years old.
Johan 185 cm said on 5/Oct/19
Importer said on 4/Oct/19
@Johan 185 cm
How tall do you think Rich Piana was. 6’1” ? He didn’t look much shorter than 6’3” Micheal O’hearn.

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3" approx shorter than O'Hearn. I don't believe he is 6'3" more like 6'2-6'2.25". He only had a good 6" on 5'8" Jay Cutler. Alot of guys claim a shoe height so I am not surprised Michael does that. Piana was 5'11"-5'11.5" max.
Importer said on 5/Oct/19
@pov lmao
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@Pov your situation kind of reminds me of what I described with my 5’9 friend who claims 5’11 except he inflates people by a lot and thinks we are the same height. Our eye levels are even different and not just a fraction apart I think his eye level is probably 5’4.5ish and mines just over 5’6. If you’re 6’0.25 or whatever then a 5’8.5 should be looking right at your chin or slightly below. I think 1.5 inch inflations are common, almost like the good ole 2 inch inflation. I think it’s funny because I also brought up measuring to my friend and he was like “what’s their to see we are both 5’11” when he doesn’t even reach the mark in shoes so I’m not sure where he got this “5’11 Doctors measurement” which is literally impossible. So he calls you 5’11 or 5’11.5? And thinks he’s 5’10 when you have about 3.5-4 inches on him. Interesting. I think he’s just insecure and doesn’t have anything better to do. My friend usually brings up height when he wants to call himself tall or if someone tall is hanging with us he not only inflates himself but them as well. He constantly refers to himself as “5’11” and even says “hey my license says it so it must be true” if somebody folds from a tape measure with a can against the wall or stadiometer they are likely lying.
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@c-mo I see, I literally must have missed that because I don’t recall you saying that. I wasn’t offended some people can misinterpret and others get offended easily especially on here where sometimes they just expect you to be PC all the time. I hate being PC like that’s just not possible, people will usually find something to give you a hard time over be it claims or like certain terms..
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@Johan that can literally happen to anyone of any height, even very tall guys sometimes get the Chitty end of the stick, this one 6’3ish kid I went to Highschool with was always made fun of for being tall and lanky and called stretch and a bunch of other nick names. If you’re short you should worry about what shallow girls say? Who cares like “do you actually want to date someone who is insecure with themselves to the point that they are nitpicking height?” Something that’s out of your control, damn like I have a big nose people bust on me all the time I just laugh it off lol. Like who cares? I even roast myself for it my point is there’s always going to be something someone’s going to pick out that they don’t like, you shouldn’t try to impress people. I think girls who are shallow are doing decent guys a favor by showing them who they shouldn’t be going after. And your friend didn’t get cheated on because he was short, just insecure childish women who don’t care about feelings want to prove something but in reality they are just showing how degenerate they are. I’m not short I’ve been cheated on more than just twice. People are scummy and you have to be careful who you trust.

@Lell yeah in Europe women could be 2-3 inches taller Than American women I can see that without a doubt. How tall are you again? If I’m not mistake you said you’re 179-180? But before I thought you said you where 181ish or something but you might have gotten overmeasured because I do recall you saying something along the lines of 178.5 at some point in the day? I think I’m taller countries you’d have to be taller than say 5’7-5’8 to be taller than most women. In America you just have to be over 5’5 and if you’re over 5’8 than you’re taller than easily 75-80% of women.
Greg said on 5/Oct/19
@Importer Rich Piana was not 6’1 barefoot, he claimed that but my guess is 5’11.5-6’0, better chance for a weak/flat 6’0. My friend who’s about 5’9 met him and took a photo not sure if I can find it but if I do I’ll share it. And he seemed like almost 3 inches taller than him. The one thing that threw me off about Rich’s height was this you tuber ProphetMuscle who’s apparently fake in every aspect was confronting him a few years ago, and he claimed to be 6’2 and seemed to edge Rich out with some research I findout he’s apparently fake (wears some padding and edits his videos) and acts like he’s a pro mma fighter as if he’s going to fight people but yet this guy never gets in the ring. Apparently he’s a stunt double or something who’s listed as 5’10, but if you watch the video with Rich he actually looks a big muscular 6’2 guy. Anyways I thought that was interesting my guess for Rich is probably 5’11.75” 6’1 with shoes.
grizz said on 4/Oct/19
@Totigno, you'd have a bad time in my country then :D In my former workplace we had a 6'2 woman who often wore heels (as she wasn't tall enough already). Another one is 5'9 (but with no affection for heels). The most recent addition to the team is a 6'1-6'2 woman. Only 2 women were 5'5 and they were considered pocket rockets height-wise.
Seeing women over 6 feet (with or without heels) in a corporate environment is not a rare sight, at least in Balkan.
Importer said on 4/Oct/19
I’m probably wrong Johan. They both are so muscular and can’t tell how tall they look through proportions.
Myself said on 4/Oct/19
@Christian
I still am not sure on that category. From my observations in my area, I think would call extremely tall someone that is a couple inches taller than me.
Giant territory could easily be 203+, considering how rare it is for me to see someone even almost that tall, but objectively speaking, I think it would start at about 206-208 cm. 198-203 = extremely tall, 204-206 = almost giantish, 206-208 = giantish, 209-210+ = real giant.
But the thing is that in the "height aware" years of my life I have only seen one person considerably taller than 2 meters, so yeah...
(I know that I saw the Russian boxer Valuev in an airport in Russia, when I was smaller... everyone was taking photos with him, but interestingly enough, from my "childish" point of view, I didn't really get the impression that I saw such an unusually big person).
Importer said on 4/Oct/19
@Johan 185 cm
How tall do you think Rich Piana was. 6’1” ? He didn’t look much shorter than 6’3” Micheal O’hearn.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 4/Oct/19
@mrfunnyguy
Average for Swedish men is 184-188? Lol, even Dutch men aren't that tall.
Greg said on 4/Oct/19
@TheBat interesting, I’m surprised he actually was quiet and didn’t argue with you despite not getting measured in front of you. I have a few 5’11 friends and some will claim 6’0 which isn’t that bad because they could hit it early morning, one of them is lanky but he can’t be more than an inch taller than me. I’m your height btw, but there’s one honest 5’11 friend I have who claims the mark so others might get surprised when they try to inflate in front of him. My one friend is probably also 5’11ish between 5’11.25-5’11.5 but claimed 6’1 and even 6’0, that’s what his license says, I told him he wasn’t 6’1 but he’s insisting his girlfriend measured him at that height and the Dentist got him at 6’2. Lol but he says “I’m not 6’2 I think I’m 6’1 but not fully” I also seen him next to my legit 6’0 friend who’s 6’0-6’0.25” at a low and he edged him. So he might be 5’11.5ish he just doesn’t give me a 6’0 vibe without shoes. Then there’s the case with my 5’9 friend claiming to be 5’11, he insists we are both that height. First he tried to say he was taller but I knew I edged him out, previously he would guess me at 6’0, so if he claims 5’11 he’s admitting that I’m an inch taller. I would peg him around 5’9.25-5’9 3/8 even 5’9.5 would be a stretch for him. However even after being called out many times he refuses to believe it. I’m hoping to measure him this weekend if he comes over my house because my other friend and I have a bet going for $100 bucks who’s taller, should be interesting 😉 I have a feeling he’s going to try and contest the can against wall method. It’s a shame I don’t own a stadiometer or Rob can’t ship me his really quickly 😂.

As for women inflating I don’t see it that common, generally girls 5’7+ will be honest however I catch 5’8.75-5’9 girls saying 5’10 or 5’10 claiming 6’0. I used to have class with this girl who was pretty tall she claimed 6’0 in a presentation she compares herself to a Giraffe and said “ I’m like a Giraffe because I’m tall I’m 6 foot” I walked by her and easily edged her out LUL” she was max 5’9.5 but she was the tallest girl in class. It was even funnier that some of the class made a reaction when she said that I think it would be funny if there was a tape measure near by she would be pretty far from her claim! I was also referred to as “tall and lanky” by my teacher before even though I’m pretty built but I guess with baggy clothes I can seem thinner than I really am. She had me confused with some other kid Joe Shmoe, he was a little taller though I think 6’0.5-6’1 zone. And had a long nose like myself she called me Joe and was like “ well you are both tall and lanky” even though I’m not actually tall maybe tallish. She had to have been like 5’0 range.
Greg said on 4/Oct/19
@Meltdown yeah I agree with you I’m the same way, today I woke up at 6 am and measured 5’10 7/8ths out of bed I was a few mm off 5’11, I rarely wake up that early and when I went back to sleep I managed to recover back as I barely did anything. I think if you said you where “ around 5’10” that’s just about covers your range. People don’t usually claim fractions unless they realize they dip down to one later in the day. Granted your average person isn’t height obsessed as let’s say maybe you and I and they might think they are the same height throughout the day. Some people get measure in shoes and claim shoes, like a guy your height might be 5’10.5 in shoes and just round that up to 5’11, so he might claim 5’11 and when people see 5’11 they will look as 5’9ish just because somebody claimed it and that’s why legit 5’11 or weak 5’11 guys will get inflated to like 6’0-6’1,so on and so on. But I know the average person will get measured at the docs office early morning or afternoon and claim that( assuming without shoes). Sometimes I’ll say 5’10 other times 5’11. I usually just say “around or almost/about 5’11” the only time I will claim a specific fraction like 5’10.5 or 5’10.75” is too mess with friends who inflate because it makes them realize they can’t be x height if I’m x height and taller. If you claimed 5’10 to me and I noticed you where a little shorter I wouldn’t say anything unless you tried to squeeze a 5’11 or 6’0 claim then I would call you out. Same with me and 5’11 I usually get away with it even with legit guys who are honest. I would say if a guys 5’8-5’9 and claiming 5’10 they will get called out(no lifts)I noticed c-mo was mentioning that many guys even in metric claim 5’9 at barely 5’7. In America we use feet and inches which makes it easier to inflatable numerically. And it’s popular for guys who are like between 5’7-5’9 to just claim 5’10 or 5’11 and guys my height 6’0 if not 6’1 it’s insane.
Greg said on 4/Oct/19
@Khaled Taban in America 6’0 is tall even 5’11 gets called tall, Ive seen guys my height get referred to as tall it’s all relative to who’s observing. But generally speaking 6’0-6’2 can be seen as tall each inch after that it goes up to very tall. Also tallish I would say is over 1.5 inches or more above average so let’s assume it’s 5’9 or a bit under than a weak 5’11/ strong 5’10 guy can be tallish. Also footwear and proportions plays a role with it. I’m sure people here will disagree with me and that’s fine, perhaps some will agree it’s my opinion and we each have our own. 👍
Greg said on 4/Oct/19
@Canson as noted before the 5’11.25” was an accidental over measurement I’ve also been under measured at the Docs by like 1/4 inch or a bit more due to stadiometer error and it being placed on carpet because after measuring at home I got like 1/3 higher than at office. But mistakes happen the can’t i used was very small and the wall could have been uneven with the ground but generally speaking I’ll be 5’11 out of bed granted I have 8 hours+ of sleep. It would be nice to be 5’11.25 out of bed because I would end the day at 5’10.5” or if I could end the day at 5’11-5’11.25” that would be better too haha.
Lell said on 4/Oct/19
@Greg

Here 5'9" women are much more common. We are like the same height if maybe I'm not slightly taller, not sure, and I see a few girls my height or taller everyday. Of course most girls here are like 5'6", but seeing 5'9"+ is not uncommon here.
There was another discussion about being a 5'2" male, and in my opinion that is indeed very short. My friend is like 5'4" and he's shorter than almost all the girls in my class and boys tower him. He does not mind it though, as he's used to it.

Bobby (178 cm)
Yeah it's quite weird how height varies with places. At your campus the tallest guys are 6 foot range and girls are tallish at 5'6". At my high school you will see crowds with 6'3" guys and many girls who hover around 5'8"-10" range. Even me and a friend discussed that our school must be higher than the national average, like 6 foot.
Sean william Winter said on 4/Oct/19
hey rob what is your weight and waist measuremnt. im around 176 lbs and 36.5 inch waist measured at belly. am i average or fat.
Editor Rob
At moment I am roughly 156 pounds and my 32 trousers are needing a belt, so must be somewhere in 31 waist range.
pov said on 4/Oct/19
Ive literally got a cousin who is so annoying. He’s literally 5”8.5 but claims 5”10 and he knows i’m a little over 6 foot but says, you’re 5”11.5 max. I was at his house the other day, and he was saying that me and him are practically the same height even though I had 4 inches on him 😂. Even his friends were like noo he’s way taller than you. His 6”3 friend even agreed I’m a strong 6 foot, he guessed me as 6”1. And my cousin responded “he’s only like an inch taller than me” 😂😂. Absolutely delusional, he always stands in such an erect posture, and always tries to bring up the subject of height with me. “Oh you’ve got big feet are they normal for someone you're height”. He always refers to me as 5”11. But funny thing is he describes guys shorter than me, as “tall”. I even offered to get a tape measure out of glove compartment (didn't really have one) but wanted to see his reaction , and suddenly he slowly changed the conversation, knowing I was going to be measured over a little 6ft and he would be around 5”8.5 at most. 😂. Morale of the story, carry a tape measure on you, or pretend you have one!
c-mo said on 4/Oct/19
@ Greg and @ Canson

my comment about autism was meant to mean that the rounding down and also being TOO fussy with height seems too much like a "bean counter" or how do you call it ....I wasnt trying to insult autists ...autists are not any less worth and I dont have anything against them and I apologized for having talked like that ...it was not my intention to offend anybody . I sometimes say things which come off as bad even though I dont mean it in a bad way . I should be more careful with my words



@ khaled taban

5'9 is a decent height to be . I really dont understand why you think the way you do .

what do you mean by "sharing height with females" ? there is not a single country on the planet where the average height even for young women is 5'9

if we go by your logic then 6'0 is also a " woman height " because I sometimes see women who are 6'0

look at this site it shows the average height of 20 year olds in 2014

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on the right you see the average female heights . the tallest women seem to be from Latvia at 169.8cm ...even that is 5.5cm shorter than 5'9 ....look at the rest of the list ...even most european countries have average heights from 163 to 167 for women and non european countries are even lower . so what are you talking about man ...

and as I said I am between 5'9 and 5'10 ...I fall to 5'9.25 in the evening and even to 5'9.22 or so on heavier days so why are you saying "believe me 5'9 isnt a good height" ? I am 5'9 range myself so I know how 5'9 feels like . some years ago I was even 5'8.5 at night due to back problems

as I said I have never had problems to attract women . I already told you how many women I slept with or made out / kissed etc. when I am slim/fit and care about how I look many women look at me and are interested no matter where I am and I am not saying this to show off and dont want to sound arrogant but believe me it is true . and most men have guessed my height to be around 179-180cm so far in life . I have trained in boxing and some other sports for years and many guys see me as a strong and tough guy and respect me ...nobody thinks of me as short (not that being short excludes you from being strong and tough but you know what I mean)

5'9 is a decent height to be . is it perfect ? no ....it is not a perfect height like lets say 6'0 but it is a decent height and you will have no problems at that height . of course there are some situations where you will feel you were taller ....I also wish I was a few centimeters taller ....but saying 5'9 is bad is rubbish tbh


Ian Somerhalder is my height . look how he looks next to people especially with females :

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5'9 is an average / medium height for a man and it is a decent height
Bobby 1.78m said on 4/Oct/19
@Canson

Well, apparrently that measurement was faulty according to him because he's been measuring only 5'11 out of bed every day since.
Greg said on 4/Oct/19
@c-mo That 6’1 guy is trolling, I think it might be mr funny guy pulling a funny next thing you know you’re 5’8, in 5’9 so is Big Josh and Rob himself is a massive 5’7!
Johan 185 cm said on 4/Oct/19
shorty morty said on 2/Oct/19
@Greg
I'm 5'2 male and lot of people disrespect me just because of my height. Lots how time people asking me "how can you be this short?" Once when I was flirting with a girl, her friend asked her how can she date with a midget? Heightism is real. I bet you are +5'5 so you never can understand this struggle. And I'm not saying short guys have no chance. I'm saying its really really harder to be a short guy.
Even Kevin Hart said he is lot of time insecure about himself. If you don't believe me I will link the report where he said that.
BTW sperm donors should be at least 5'7. It's saying a lot I think
Sorry for my english, its not my first languge

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Yes one of my friends is 160 cm (5'3) and its as you say. The disrespect by both genders, the constant comments and he has been cheated on twice by partners. Outside of our height difference we are pretty much the same, he is fit, has his own place, good job, car, I would say more engaging personality but he is 5'3".

Don't expect much in the way of understanding, here you have guys who are 5'9-5'11" always complaining about their height when they are average/above average.

Some will say things like women don't care about that. Thats the nonsense they hide behind, young women in particular are incredibly shallow, i would know during my 20's I was a total prat and yet had to beat them off.
Johan 185 cm said on 4/Oct/19
This page gets sillier and sillier. 5'7" very short? 6' average? 6'1" tallish?

95 th percentile very tall??? 6'2" btw lol. Some very biased comments that favour taller heights here.

5'9.5" is average in most western countries outside of a handful so if 5'7" starts short which most agree with then 6' starts tall. If 5'4.5" starts very short then 6'2.5" starts very tall.

If people were to be measured accurately I think many would be surprised how many 5'6"-5'9" men make up the general population.

Excluding the older population I just take 5'10" as average in the west and so end up with 6'0.5" starting tall and 5'7.5" starting short. Thats my impression of heights in Europe excluding my own country and a few others.
Sakz said on 4/Oct/19
@pov That's not how it works though. The fact is there are more people under 6'0 than 6'0 and over and that's what the stats reflect. Tall people obviously aren't as common as average and short people. To give an example relating to yours, something like 6'3.5 is only 2.5 inches above 6'1, yet that's enough for some to consider the former very tall so it's not necessarily always about the size of the gap. Also, the average as a whole is reported to be 5'9 in the UK and US (probably a bit less because these are self reported), therefore 3 inches is typically enough for the benchmark of tall to begin. That's how the general consensus is but of course individual perceptions won't always be in line with this as I mentioned in another post.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 4/Oct/19
@ c-mo - I watch many of the daft dating programmes on TV and I have noticed how many girls stipulate 'tall' as one of their ideal male requirements. I always think what a negative attitude they have.

The girls I know have been quite different. Maybe it's because these girls who go on TV are so fussy that they need to go on a dating show to get a date. 😉🖕

I'm not very tall myself, (5ft1, and peak height 5ft2.5) and I have found that guys of 5ft7-8 have had just as much fun at my expense as the really tall ones. I've grown used to it now and don't take any notice, but it did used to get to me. It would seem that I live in a tall area and went to a school where the kids were above average. There was an 11-year-old girl in my class who was 5ft8. Everybody adored her because she really was a laugh-a-minute type of person.

I knew a woman of 5ft10 whose partner was 5ft4. She had two sons with him and one with her ex; the guy she'd had before was precisely a foot taller - and beat her up. I grew very close to her and she told me all the details, which were horrendous. I was shocked, because the bloke who violated me way back when was, he said, 5ft8 - at least that's what he admitted to, but in all honesty, I'd knock off around one-and-a-half inches! My Mum was a believer to some degree in 'small man syndrome', but I didn't follow suit, as experience taught me otherwise. It's well worth mentioning that the son of the violent man grew up to be a smashing fellow. I met him on a few occasions five years back and reckoned on his height being around 6ft3/4. No way had he taken after his natural father. He'd adopted the placid, warm personalities of his Mum and the man who brought him up, who was ex-Navy and one of the funniest people I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. Tragically, he died at 58 of a long-term illness. (He and my girlfriend got married).

Nice partners come in all shapes and sizes, and any man or woman who insists on a certain height or body shape isn't worth knowing anyway.

Another girl I was friends with, a Mum of three who was 5ft10+ with beautiful hair and a great personality, didn't give a toss about the heights of her fellas! A relationship will last when a partner has an engaging personality, and I feel lucky that my girlfriends are like-minded. Okay, so chaps have made fun of my height, but sometimes, it can be a sign of flirtatious behaviour!

All the best to you c-mo, and do try to hunt around for that Paul McCartney and Wings track 'C-Moon'. I'm sure you'll love it!

Cheers!

Sandy XXX 😁👍
TheBat said on 4/Oct/19
I recently met a guy who was around 5'11" to 5'11.5" claiming he was 6'2". I told him that's a pipe dream lol. He tried to back up his claim saying I'm 6'1" but I told him I'm not 6'1" and I'm between 5'10" and 5'11". He got stunned and the realization made him quiet. And I also met a woman who was like 4'9" claiming 5'1"....
Canson said on 3/Oct/19
@Bobby: I thought Greg was 5’11 flat out of bed. If he dips to 5’10.25 that may be his extreme low if the 5’11.25 is out of bed
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 3/Oct/19
@ Canson - Can you imagine how ill-fated a relationship would be if it was based on an attraction for a tall height? What a joke! Cheers Canson! 😉👍 XXX
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 3/Oct/19
@Myself
I'd call anything 25cm+ the average as extremely tall. So if the average of a place is 175 for example, "extremely tall" would be 200 and taller.
Meltdown said on 3/Oct/19
@Greg

It depends on sleep. If I only sleep 4–5 hours I might wake up 5'9 3/4" and drop to 5'9" flat by the end of the day. If I sleep a full 8 hours I am 5'10" and drop to 5'9 1/4 or 1/8 end of day. If I sleep in 10 or 11 hours I will wake up 5'10 1/4" and drop barely below 5'9 1/2 end of day.

Your starting point and time+wear & tear is the equation to determine end of day height. But I just keep it simple. I wake up 5'10" barefoot on average, and even in the morning after height loss I'm 5'10 1/2" in regular-heeled shoes. So I claim 5'10". If people want to get technical in conversation (which happens rarely) I might mention I'm that I'm five-nine and a half in the afternoon. If they ask what I mean by afternoon it's my cue to educate them on daily height fluctuation which apparently 95+% of the world knows nothing about.
khaled taban said on 3/Oct/19
@pov, 6'0" is taller than 80% of men,so It's enough to make you at least "tallish".
I live in the US , and most people here consider 6'0" guy as tallish or even tall.
ajax509 said on 3/Oct/19
@Myself Technically, the upper extreme value (max.) of a sample is "Extremely tall". In my country, Germany, 223cm.
@Emil Does this table (AVG. 180cm) suit your perception?
Giant territory 99.5% (1/200) 198.7cm
Extremely tall 98% (1/50) 194.84cm
Very tall 95% (1/20) 191.94cm
Legit tall 90% (1/10) 189.29cm
Tallish 75% (1/4) 184.89cm
Medium zone
Shortish 25% (1/4) 175.11cm
Legit short 10% (1/10) 170.71cm
Very short 5% (1/20) 168.06cm
Extremely short 2% (1/50) 165.16cm
Rare territory .5% (1/200) 161.3cm
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Emil said on 3/Oct/19
@ajax509

You seem like one of the only one who's remotely realistic about height perceptions lol.

I'm not totally sure if I agree with you on everything though.
Imo, 66% percentile should just be considered above average, 75% is tallish, 85-90% is legit tall, 95% is very tall, and 98-99% should be considered extremely tall. 99.5% is giant territory.

Again, it's only my opinion and I respect yours to the fullest as well. Where are you from btw?
Bobby 1.78m said on 3/Oct/19
@Person111

I'd say the percentage here is 70% or at least, that's what it feels like because I rarely see Caucasian people on transit anymore. Like, I'm not saying I never see guys 6'0 or taller, I do, but they're not a high percentage so it's uncommon here. Even still, off campus, I barely see guys my height or taller although I've got a friend who works at No Frills that's like 5'11ish, he edges me out. I've even seen guys up to 6'8 on one occasion, he was massive. I also know of one guy who could be close to 6'5. He's African Canadian. As for women, I maybe see 5'9 women a couple times a year, but it's not a common sight. I'm more likely to see 5'6 women but even that's slightly uncommon too.

What's your ethnic background if you're 5'6? Not that it makes a significant difference, but Caucasian women tend to be on the taller side alongside African women. Asians are probably the shortest of the demographics.
Greg said on 3/Oct/19
@Canson don’t recall the autistic comment by c-mo but that’s messed up. Either way, I agree that people are too busy brained washed by claims they forget it doesn’t really matter at the end of the day it’s not going to change how tall you actually look to people. It’s just some people want to round up and others down. Some people don’t use fractions properly I noticed that too. Yeah it is a big height loss for someone of that height, taller guys tend to lose more.
Greg said on 3/Oct/19
@khaled taban do you hear yourself? I think you need a long break from celeb heights and just height in general because you’re sounding overdramatically crazy right about now. C-mo is right 5’9 is a solid average, in most places you shouldn’t feel short your insecurities are coming from somewhere else, I know guy’s shorter than you who doesn’t even care really at the end of the day it’s just a number. Like your life wouldn’t be that much different if you where taller and you could have been much shorter like 5’0. That being said 5’9 or 5’10 doesn’t make you feel weak lol, you must feel weak because you are weak minded. 5’10 is above average in most places and at my height 5’10.5-5’10.75”ish I feel a good amount about average even going into that tallish zone with boots I can hit 6’0 or even a bit over in the afternoon. In most shoes I’m like 5’11.5 and I’m taller than most guys I come across. That being said I don’t see many girls my height and even when I do, I don’t care I think it’s insanely attractive for a girl to be tall and with good proportions it’s even better. Women will be your height some of the time until like even 6’4 or taller lol that’s just how it is. 5’9 isn’t short get that out of your head and having Hispanic genes doesn’t make you shorter there’s plenty of tall Spanish guys well over 6’0, it’s literally genetics and nutrition along with exercise.
Greg said on 3/Oct/19
@Bobby I just want to add I overmeasured by 1/4th of an inch which isn’t a big deal sometimes I’ve even gotten undermeasured before, usually my height is between 5’10 and 5’11 throughout the day about 5’10.5 in the noon on most days. Generally speaking 6’1 guy is trying to pull a funny hehe and is probably shorter than he claims to be 😂 isn’t it magestic how that all works out to be?


@Pov on most places 6ft is 83rd percentile, and that’s different what you consider it and what it actually is. In Amsterdam maybe that’s only a little above average, 6’175-6’2+ is a legit tall getting into a pretty tall range in most places...
Totigno said on 3/Oct/19
@khaled taban

5'9 for women is quite rare ,maybe 5'9 is low average for men especially for the younger generation
but if you tell me that 5ft9 is common for women i don't believe you , it is a small minority unless you live in a taller country like netherlands or northern european countries.
Greg said on 3/Oct/19
@Person111 I am not misreading your comments, you are misreading mine I was by hundreds and hundreds of people I would even argue thousands, I will only see maybe 1 or 2 5’9 women, they are not common at all in the U.S maybe if you’re from Europe they are more common but still not as common as you are making it out to be 🤷🏻‍♂️.
c-mo said on 3/Oct/19
@ Miss Sandy Cowell

thanks for your words . you seem to be a very nice person . but I have to disagree with you on the " All a girl looks for in a man is someone who is interesting AND CAN MAKE HER LAUGH! 😉" comment ....that might be the case for SOME women but a lot of women are a lot more shallow than that . when I am overweight I get almost no interest from women ....when I have bad days where I can not be "cool" and on game this also has an effect ...but when I look my best (slim/fit + well dressed + good skin + good mood etc.) and have good altitute they all come left and right ...hmmmm ...why ? my personality is the same ....when you ask women what they want they always will say "he has to be nice and have humour " etc. but in reality what they want is very different . therefore a man should never ask what a woman wants because that will not be the full truth

as for height : at my height of 5'9.25 evening I have no problems in general but trust me women give a hard time to men who are shorter than 5'8 especially men 5'5 and under have a big big disadvantage . I have a friend who is 5'4 or a bit under and when we went clubbing girls laughed at him ....

and it is often short women who are the most heightist of them all

so we dont need to pretend that it is otherwise :) this is the reality of things

women are actually more shallow than men ...way more


@ Greg no problem mate


@ 6'1 guy . Rob would measure me 174cm only if he pressed the ruler way too hard on my head . I am around 176cm in the evening and 175.8cm or so on harder days . I dont think I measured myself wrong
mrfunnyguy said on 3/Oct/19
Male height chart for Sweden according to me:

Extremely tall: 203cm+ (6'8+)
Very tall: 196-202cm (6'5.5-6'7.5)
Tall: 193-195cm (6'4-6'5):
Above average: 189-193cm (6'2.5-6'3.25)
Average: 184-188cm (6'0.5-6'2)
Below average: 179-183cm (5'10.5-6'0)
Short:176-178cm (5'9.25-5'10)
Very short: 170-175cm (5'7-5'9)
Extremely short: 169cm or shorter (5'6.5 or shorter)

Sorry if someone gets offended by this, but this is just my opinion.
ajax509 said on 3/Oct/19
@Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm)
There are two definitions of Gigantism [Click Here], "Growth hormone overproduction" E22.0 and "Idiopathic (Normal variant tall stature)" E34.4 [Click Here]
Emil said on 3/Oct/19
@ajax509

You seem like one of the only one who's remotely realistic about height perceptions lol.

I'm not totally sure if I agree with you on everything though.
Imo, 66% percentile should just be considered above average, 75% is tallish, 85-90% is legit tall, 95% is very tall, and 98-99% should be considered extremely tall. 99.5% is giant territory.

Again, it's only my opinion and I respect yours to the fullest as well. Where are you from btw?
F97 said on 3/Oct/19
Rob I have seen someone listed as 6'01" what is that in CM? I have never seen that before
Editor Rob
I'd have assumed 6ft 1 inch.
Puddleduck. said on 3/Oct/19
I have always thought i was 5ft 10", but after recently seeing a chiropractor i have discovered i have a leg length discrepancy and am actually measuring 5ft 11". It all just depends on what leg i stand tall on!
Person111 said on 2/Oct/19
@Greg - You're still misreading my comments. How many people do you walk past every week? If you only see 5'9+ women 0-1x per week, that means 5'9+ women are less than 1% of your area, which is way BELOW the national average of 3%.

I'm not talking about global averages. Of course the global average is short because most of the world lives in poverty and can't afford basic nutrition to maximize their height. In the US, 15% of men are 6'0+.
Person111 said on 2/Oct/19
@Bobby 1.78m – Vancouver is around 50% visible minorities too. Most people here are short or average height but tall people are a small percentage, which still translates into quite a few people. In Toronto, the average there should be very similar to here. In a non-tall country like Canada, 5’9 women or 6’2 men should be 2-3% of the population, which means you should be encountering them a few times per week.
Greg said on 2/Oct/19
@Christian oh man I seen 5’11.5 claim 6’1 a lot, I know a few guys who do that one of them is my good friend and he edges me out but I think he doesn’t manage to look over 6’0 in shoes at best like 6’0.25 bare feet I think he would have an inch on me so 5’11 3/8ths-5’11.5 zone
Greg said on 2/Oct/19
@shorty morty, listen I feel for you but a person stature should not and does not define them, I know some people who are extremely tall and people look at them as goofy, awkward or just a walking circus act which in reality they are normal just like you and I. Yeah 5’2 is short but I have a 5’3 friend who might even be 5’2.5 he’s quite a short guy has an attractive girlfriend (who’s taller than him btw) he’s doing good in life and makes a living for himself he’ll he pulls more girls than a lot of taller guys I know! Right now your insecurities are coming down from deep within but you can’t let them get to know. I have plenty of short friends and they manage to get girls just fine, it’s more or so confidence and having a good personality and just being overall nice and genuine rather than how tall you are. And so what dude? Who cares what people say I would say own up to it doesn’t matter who you are flirting with it’s not any of their business. I noticed a lot of people project their insecurities onto others. It’s a matter of how you make it work, Kevin Hart isn’t insecure he used to be growing up but he turned into around and is famous and a great person. I’m between 5’10 and 5’11 I used to be your height at some point, honestly could be worse you could have been a primordial dwarf. I think you need to focus on other aspects of life, sperm donors don’t have a height requirement other than to be of good health.

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