General Height

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Olympian said on 21/Jan/21
@AlphaBeta

Yes, but the British descended population of Canada is mainly concentrated in Newfoundland. In Ontario, mostly Toronto and the GTA, there are fewer white people around. Such white people could be descendants of other European immigrants too such as Portuguese, Italians, Dutch, German, Greek, et al. The majority of whites here are of Celtic descent, however. For example, in Markham, Ontario, there's a huge influx of Asians compared to Toronto.
G Suave said on 21/Jan/21
@181guy you just have to have a good eye for height.
Solid 5'11 said on 21/Jan/21
@rob

I measured my height alone in my home and I got 1.80.5 facing the wall, but when my friend measured me (also facing the wall) i was surprisingly 180.7. and we did it over and over again in the same location. what could be the reason for that?
Moreover, when I measure myself always the first measurment is higher, I start with 1.80.5 and I drop to 1.80.3, and if I continue I become 1.80.2. what can be the reason for it? i measure with a big book
Editor Rob
for such a small difference it may well be the floor has a subtle slope that you would struggle to notice...of course the other option is teensy better posture one way than the other.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 21/Jan/21
ChaosControl 6'2 1/2 said on 15/Jan/21
Do we all at least agree that 220cm is the start of supergiant height?
(BTW my name is different because it was claiming my supplier details were invalid)

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@Chaos
As far as I'm concerned though, "giant" is the highest category, so I don't think adding "super" in front of it emphasizes anything.
Progking184 said on 21/Jan/21
@Nono19 probably 184.7 or 6'0.75, I'm guessing your 185+ in the afternoon assuming average 3-6 mm shrinkage by evening, so you can claim that or just say 6'1.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 21/Jan/21
@Glitch
Trick could be around 174cm or a hair over 6 hours out of bed, but everyone loses at different rates and time frames, so I can't say for certain.
RL said on 21/Jan/21
@Dan84

Out of bed Tallest height: 175cm
Lowest Shortest height: 173cm
Reach/Wingspan: 181cm
Inseam: 86cm
Feet length: 25cm
RJT said on 21/Jan/21
@Winkler91

Would a 189.5-190cm Asian dude stick out in Germany?
ZigZag said on 21/Jan/21
@Trycik that’s one of those borderline heights, this is the relevant position of my bracket.

5’5”_5’6” short
5’7”-5’8” shortish
5’9”-5’10” average

So when you do brackets in this fashion there’s always kind of a dead zone/borderline inch between each brackets. My rule is whatever brackets it’s closer to is the brackets it’s mostly in. So idk what height you are at afternoon I’m bad at accounting for this because I lose quite a bit more height than most people throughout the day. I’m guessing you are something like 5’8.75”? That’s probably close enough to average to usually not be thought of as short in America. It’s the range a lot of guys will claim 5’10” and often 5’11”.
burneraccount412 said on 20/Jan/21
Hey Rob, I have noticed even as I get older, I still have continued to grow at a similar rate as when I was 16. Since turning 16, i have been growing a consistent .5-.75 inches per year, suprisingly. I thought I was done this time last year, measuring in at around 5'11 3/8". Suprisingly, I have continued to grow and was just measured at almost 5'11 and 7/8" 1 year later! My parents have also noticed I have been growing at an even faster rate than last year as well. Is it really possible I still have quite a bit of growth left? I no doubt will hit 6'0" at a low by the time I turn 19 this april, but what are my chances of growing to 6'1, or even 6'0.5"? Will I grow past 19?
Editor Rob
on average from 18 to 21 about 1cm gain is possible, but a fair percentage at 18 are finished, some gain 1cm, a proportion gain 2-3cm and a smaller proportion more than that.
Sean95 said on 20/Jan/21
The ideal male height in my opinion would be 6'2-6'5 and for females 5'7-5'10 but I acknowledge for the majority, the most desired would be much less
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Jan/21
@Blanc
While I don't know if Garrison's legit short, at least he's short for his demographic (young/middle aged white American male). He's max 5'6.5", which is over 3" shorter for his demo. (5'9.5"-5'10" average)
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Jan/21
@Nono19
But the thing is, spine length isn't always correlated with the amount of height loss, so you could lose anywhere from 5/8"-7/8", or even a full inch if you're very heavy.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Jan/21
@Genau
Hair doesn't actually add to your height, though some haircuts may make you appear taller. I measure the same height whether I have a small afro or completely shaved.

@Blanc
It would be an interesting experiment, though a lot of people might be weirded out by it.
Poster said on 20/Jan/21
@AlphaOmega: That's true. I'm 5'10, and they often guess me as 6'0 or even taller. This is especially true for the tiny girls in the 4'10 to 5'0 range. Some of them guess that they're up to four inches taller!
Trycik said on 20/Jan/21
@Glitch it depends, after 6 hours out of bed I'm about 174.5
ChaosControl 6'2 1/2 said on 20/Jan/21
@Blanc I tried asking a friend to guess me. Guy’s known me since we were about three. He’s heard me claim 6’2 and 6’3 before (I don’t know how tall he is). He guessed me as 6’4
G Suave said on 20/Jan/21
I think height is interesting, it varies from person to person and people perception of different things height related also vary. Some people tend to overestimate your height and some under estimate it, also some things can throw perception and measurements off making it a little harder to gauge how tall someone really is. Most people would really be surprised to find out they are not as tall as they think or vice versa.
181guy said on 20/Jan/21
@G Suave Yeah, if you looked closely enough.
Glitch said on 20/Jan/21
@Genau

You will be

178cm at 16

179cm at 17

180cm at 18

181 at 19

182 at 20

183 at 21

And 184 at 22

I’m pretty sure you won’t be less than that
G Suave said on 20/Jan/21
@Genau Probably like 178-180cm
AndrewV said on 20/Jan/21
@Genau

184cm is possible if you have a grandparent around that height but in your case I think 5'11 range is more likely based on growth charts and your parents' height.
Brewster said on 20/Jan/21
As a 22 Y/0 male who wakes up at 174cm and goes down to 172cm would i be considered on the low end of average?
winkler91 said on 20/Jan/21
@ChaosControl:
You are my height, maybe 1/4inch taller. On normal active days I dip below 189 in the afternoon. (188,7)
I was guessed ''maybe 1,85'' by 1 girl once but they were like 1,65 so probably bad judging
Then I was guessed 1,88 and 1,90. Once I walked around the city and a 1,65-1,70 guy said: ''oh 2 meter man''. This was ridicolous :D

I have a brother who is very strong 6'1 (1,87) but I sometimes feel I am not really much taller. But my parents said I am a little bit taller when they see us.
winkler91 said on 20/Jan/21
@Nono19:

186,7 ouf of bed or after like 1hour awake?
If its out of bed first thing you could drop a hair below 185 in the afternoon I would guess. Maybe 184,5 or 184,6 before bed. Maybe So its a weak 6'1 on these site standards. 1,85 is a good claim in metric, but sure you can also say 6'1 (doctors measurement possible) or about 6'1.
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 20/Jan/21
Looking at someone like Lane Garrison he doesn't even look short next to people
Genau said on 20/Jan/21
I have a question how much height do Undercut haircuts add i mean for example this one: Click Here
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 20/Jan/21
@Nono19 chance of full inch, 184.2-184.7
Genau said on 20/Jan/21
@Trycik assuming you are in the USA or Europe you would be low average or shortish but not short average for young guys in European Countries excluding Scandinavia is about 5ft10
Genau said on 20/Jan/21
If my parents are 175 cm and 158 cm how tall will i be i am 15 yrs 7 months old and 177 cm?

is 184 possible?
Genau said on 20/Jan/21
@Nono 19 could be 184.5
Glitch said on 20/Jan/21
@Trycik

What’s your height in Noon? Or 6hours out of bed?
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 20/Jan/21
Going up to random people and asking how tall they think you are would be an interesting experiment to see the guesses you get.
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 20/Jan/21
@ChaosControl 6'2 1/2 Some kid (well actually the same age as me but looked a lot younger) when I was 14(?) claimed to be 5'6" himself when he was no more than 5'2" and said there was no way I was 5'5" like I claimed and had to be "ATLEAST" 5ft 8 or 5ft 9, which is outrageous. Another guy claimed 5ft 7 when he was more like 5ft 3 1/2. That was a pretty weird scenario because I was somehow the tallest person there lol.

I got guessed as 5ft 8 once after that when I was 5ft 6 flat at best.

Then another time I got guessed by my 5ft 8 1/2 friend as "5 foot 4" when I was 5ft 6-6.5 range and got described as "very short" which is ridiculous.
Jdubbz said on 19/Jan/21
@Yharnamman

I mean, there's no such thing as a "height league". It's all subjective. I don't think 6'6 is insanely tall, and I'd put 6'10-7'0 in a different category than 6'9. That's just my opinion though.
Nono19 said on 19/Jan/21
I'm 186.7 Cm the morning what would be my lowest height provided i have a long torso ?
AndrewV said on 19/Jan/21
I don't really see how 179cm can feel above average around younger Germans, I'm 184cm and I never felt tall in Germany, just high average and sometimes even just solid average. At the same time, I wouldn't think they're a solid 6'0" on average, more like 5'11".
AndrewV said on 19/Jan/21
@Blanc (1.69m)

You would be in the solidly short range for young white and black adult males in the US and UK (like 10th percentile) but in the general population of all races and ages you'd just be at the start of short range (~20th percentile). I would say you're short but definitely not exceptionally so, I see a lot of guys your height everyday.
181guy said on 19/Jan/21
@Rob Do you usually feel towered by big 6'3/6'4 guys? In person you might feel even more shorter because you are looking from where your eyes are while forgetting where the top of your head hits.
Editor Rob
it becomes a more visually striking difference standing beside 6ft versus 6ft 3-4, I think because you are now looking a few inches under the taller person's chin.
winkler91 said on 19/Jan/21
@Christian
Thanks, I have used one today with my back against the wall measurement and I figured my aerosole can measurement facing the wall was pretty exact.
G Suave said on 19/Jan/21
@Chaos Control 6’2 1/2 The weirdest guesses I’ve ever gotten where 6’1 and 6’2 but that was because the girl was much under 5’0, one of them asked me if I was 6’2, ive also been guessed as 6’0 several times before.
G Suave said on 19/Jan/21
@AlphaOmega I don’t really care that much to know what school he goes to, I’m just saying most likely if you go to his University and examine the population difference in terms of ethnicity you will see it’s predominantly white. This is my educated guess, most likely I am right, not that either one of us can check anyways. But my hypothesis stands. And it doesn’t matter because neither he or you knows exactly the ethnicity break down of my demographic and it doesn’t even matter because again like I said this is all opinion based. I don’t associate with Olympian anymore and haven’t in a while, so I don’t really care all that much no offense. I doubt there’s only 2 white guys in his class, highly doubt it unless he goes to some segregated College which again I doubt.. if only I cared more; but I don’t 🤷‍♂️
G Suave said on 19/Jan/21
@Olympian Lol misquoting you? You’re a funny guy. You literally said that you felt above average on campus and that majority of the campus is White. Okay hold up I never said “Toronto” specifically is mainly white. I was just talking about your University, don’t get it twisted every city is going to have diversity. Some more than others, and okay it doesn’t matter where in Canada you live or have been. I’m sure nobody has literally been in every part of their region. So before you want to get all defensive, read what I write carefully and stop being all reclusive and just in your own world as per usual 👍.
Canson said on 19/Jan/21
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Jan/21
@Canson
6'3" is around 2 SD's from average, so I can see it being classified as very tall, though any less than that may be just regular tall. 6'3" IMO is also the starting point where being any taller doesn't give you added advantages, unless if you're a pro athlete. I'd even say 6'2.5"

@Christian: well said! The longer I’ve been here the more I have begun to agree with you about that being the perfect height for tall (6’3)”. 6’2.5” is a very good one too. Really all things considered, 6’2” may be universally the best. It’s tall but not very tall. I have always said 6’4” but it’s because I am that height
Progking said on 19/Jan/21
@ChaosControl6'2.5 i was guessed at 6'4 by relatives i was maybe 6'0.75 or 185 cm when i saw them(6'0.5 afternoon) but still thats kind of crazy.
Sakz said on 19/Jan/21
@ChaosControl 6'2 1/2: 6'2 and 6'3 are perfectly reasonable in your case because the average person can barely spot 1/2". There are many factors which can negate small fractions such as that. At around 6'1 I generally just get tall comments, though I was once asked if I'm 6'2 by someone a few inches shorter.
181guy said on 19/Jan/21
@Sakz I agree
Sakz said on 19/Jan/21
@MaskDeMasque I think claiming a half is generally reasonable but still comes across as being a bit too pedantic to the average person. Rounding up is better than rounding down in that situation because, to use your height as an example, you'll never measure as low as 5'9 but you will measure 5'10 early in the day.
MaskDeMasque said on 19/Jan/21
@Blanc

5'6.5 is short for a guy, but i don't think it's an impacting height. Your still taller than like 75% of women. I think 5'5 and under can seriously disadvantage a bloke though.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Jan/21
@Trycik
Definitely not short, although often on the below average side. Rob's 173cm flat and he usually doesn't feel short even among young people.

@Olympian
How do you feel Montreal compared to Toronto? I imagine Montreal being slightly taller, because most of the population is of French descent and less diverse than Toronto. But I can't say for sure because I've never been to either city. I did visit Vancouver once though, and it felt 5'8.5"-ish like most major North American cities.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Jan/21
@Blanc
Your New Yorker friend is really height blind, lol. 6'0"+? He must think he lives in the Dinaric Alps or something.

@Chaos
Other than the one time I got guessed as a 7 footer by a child, it's 6'8". And the shortest I got was 6'4".
John124 said on 19/Jan/21
Modelling heights for men are generally:

5'11 - 6'2

6'4+ men also have certain options although at above 6'2 or 6'3 opportunities reduce substantially.


Modelling heights for women are generally:

5'8 - 5'11

6'1+ female models have options but these decrease significantly above 5'11 or 6'0

5'2 - 5'6 women are considered petite models in the industry and still have a variety of options.


Modelling heights typically:

Male runway models 6'0 - 6'2

Female catwalk models 5'9 - 5'11


A lot of 5'11 male models are simply billed at 6'0 and they often get a pass. The same is applicable to women - 5'8 female models often get billed at 5'9 and they too get a pass.

Most Dutch people would say that a man needs to be not less than 190cm to be considered tall, though from a visual perspective they would probably still consider a 188cm/189cm person tall.

Anything above 188cm looks too tall in my estimation, perhaps not in photos and on-screen, but in real life it's pretty clear to me. As a personal preference I rate 183cm - 185cm ideal overall for male height. 186cm - 188cm is also good, but there is no real advantage to being over 185cm in everyday life. The best height range to be when travelling the world is around 183cm - 185cm. As a personal trainer based on observations I would consider 182cm - 184cm as having the most perceptively balanced proportions if the individual is in reasonably good shape. This range appears tall enough (even if it doesn't sound it) but isn't at all lanky.
winkler91 said on 18/Jan/21
You said Airmax 90 give 3,2cm while mine give more 2,9cm (1 year old)
(Measured 191,7 wearing them (188,8 without) at 3pm...thought would be 192 on dot)
Is the 3,2cm boost only for newe ones and the height boost will slighly decrease ?
Editor Rob
for a new pair compared to year old pair you could expect a couple of mm difference
Rapha said on 18/Jan/21
@ Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Jan/21
@Canson
6'3" is around 2 SD's from average, so I can see it being classified as very tall, though any less than that may be just regular tall. 6'3" IMO is also the starting point where being any taller doesn't give you added advantages, unless if you're a pro athlete. I'd even say 6'2.5"

Hi Christian

What do you mean by " doesn't give you added advantages " ? In which context ?
Solid 5'11 said on 18/Jan/21
I was walking around berlin in germany and in the whole population the average height seems to me as 1.77-1.78 cm. probably the very younger population with average of 1.79-1.80 (evening height).
I agree with the people here
Sorta6 said on 18/Jan/21
@winkler91
I've often found that out of bed height can fluctuate up to 1cm depending on the quality and length of sleep. There's been mornings when I've managed to measure a few mm's taller than my usual peak and that's usually when I've had a good 8 hours on a comfortable bed.
Olympian said on 18/Jan/21
@Christian

I don't think "busting a gut" is cheating. Standing at your absolute tallest for measurement would make sense since humans stand less than their erect stature on average. Lifting your heels would be cheating, however.
G Suave said on 18/Jan/21
@Canson Yeah I remember you talking about that before, I hate when already tall guys lie about their height. It skews the system even more i have witnessed guys who where close to 7’0 lie about their height and I also experienced most of my friend group giving themselves 1-2 inches casually thinking nobody was going to notice. I remember a guy who was like 5’10 at the absolute most would describe himself as 6’0, and I was like “ there’s no way he’s 6’0, I edge him out “ and another time a 5’9 and change guy tried saying he was 5’11, but there’s no way he can be that height barefoot.
G Suave said on 18/Jan/21
@Zober my weird logic? Because I am taller than that and am above average. Why don’t you think before you emit more moronic words from your mouth.
G Suave said on 18/Jan/21
@Bwk There aren’t any LOL, unless he’s talking about guys getting measured out of bed in shoes, rounded up.
ChaosControl 6'2 1/2 said on 18/Jan/21
@MaskDeMasque at a half inch measurement I have the same problem as you. Depending on time of day, level of activity and who I’m talking to I claim anywhere from 6’2 to 6’3
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 18/Jan/21
@Italian Guy
Sorry if this is a bit personal and unrelated to height, but are you still in a relationship with her, or did you two move on?
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 18/Jan/21
@Bwk
And even then, stats are often a bit sketchy and not completely reliable. My rule of thumb is to subtract 1cm from a stat for a better estimate. So if the US male average is 176cm from stats, I'd guess more 175cm.

@Winkler
I recommend using a spirit level, in case the angle might be off. That's how I solved my issue when measuring my height. I was baffled that I got different measurements from different sections of my house, so one day I used a spirit level to measure all the sections of my house, and it turned out that a few sections of my house wall weren't at a perfect angle.
ZigZag said on 18/Jan/21
Something weird about the Canada thing that you guys probably don’t know. The other night I googled something like “why are Canadians shorter than Americans”. The only results I got were on that yahoo answers type site I can’t recall the name of right now, other forums as well. Anyway there were multiple questions involving the assumption that Canadians were actually taller than Americans? Another post about Australians and Canadians being taller. This memory is so vague I have a hard time believing it happened but it did lol. There was one post I didn’t even fully open where the person said something about being 5’10” and that the average male Canadian height was 5’5”. They even stated that many of the men came up to their belly button? My point is that the internet is really weird.
Italian guy said on 18/Jan/21
winkler91 said on 16/Jan/21
How much can the out of bed height vary? I measure 190,5 or 190,6 but sometimes 190,4...today 190,3. I haven't drunk any water in 11 hours but I didn't feel really dehydrated.

Also, does it make a difference if you sleep on a bed or a couch? I only sleep on a sofa bed for years.

Also mine varies like even 0,5 cm difference from 191.9 to 192.3 cm, I think the amount of hours you sleep amd hydratation play a role...
AlphaOmega said on 18/Jan/21
@Bwk, someone here posted it before. I don't have the link. All the white Anglo countries have 5'10 average for white men. Not one white Anglo country has 5'9 average for white men. 5'9 is the average when a large percentage of non-whites are included in the sample size. I've been to Canada quite a few times (I live near the border) and the white people there are no different in height than the US.
MaskDeMasque said on 17/Jan/21
Are there more really tall people or really short or is it even Rob? For example, are 6'8 guys more common than 5'0 guys?
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 17/Jan/21
@ Boyg - Does a netball ball count?

🤓😉😄 Nice to meet you, Boyg! 🏀⛹️‍♀️
Trycik said on 17/Jan/21
Rob and guys, I'm 173.8 cm at nightz at my lowest and 26 years old. Would I be average or short among young guys?
Inches_to_cm said on 17/Jan/21
Rob, would a daily shrinkage of 2-3 cm be considered abnormal for someone south of 6'4? Basically anyone short, average or tall, but perhaps not in the "very tall" category.
Editor Rob
1.5-2 would be less than you'd expect, 2.5-3cm for guys near 6ft 4 could be a more common occurence.
Olympian said on 17/Jan/21
@G Suave

Dude, stop misquoting me. I never said my campus is mainly white. You're inserting inaccurate information. I said I felt above average in general, not specifically around white people. How could I feel above average all over Canada when I've only been to Montreal, Quebec once in my life, and left Ontario only within the last few years? Maybe around some white guys who happen to be shorter than average will I be taller, but the few I've seen actually measure up to me.

How about I live in Toronto and can certify that it's not a "white" city?
ChaosControl 6'2 1/2 said on 17/Jan/21
What are the most ridiculous heights people here have been guessed as? I’m usually estimated at around 6’4 (including by a 6’1 guy, so it’s not just clueless short people) but I’ve also had 6’3 and even 6’5 guesses. I do get guessed 6’2 but 6’2 and 6’5 guesses are rarest
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 17/Jan/21
@G Suave How do you feels above average in Germany if the average is near 5'11"
Zxsh said on 17/Jan/21
Hi Rob. I'm 17 and I measure just under 181cm in the morning and then dip to around 180cm in the early part of the day. Last time I measured at 6pm I was around 179.6cm however I feel like this may be an under measurement due to measuring on carpet. The lowest height I can measure is around 179cm. Can I claim to be a weak 5' 11?
Editor Rob
you could say about/almost 5ft 11...still possibility to become a strong 5ft 11 if you gained another bit of height
Yharnamman said on 17/Jan/21
@Jdubbz I can't really agree with much of that. The height leagues are always 6'1"/6'2" or 6'1"/6'2"/6'3", then 6'4"/6'5", then 6'6"/6'7"/6'8", then 6'9"+

@Christian 6'5 3/8" I think that is a good adjustment. 6'9" is in a different league compared to 6'8", the same as 6'4" compared to 6'3" or 6'1" compared to 6'0" etc.

@Italian guy Yes 6'3" and 6'6" are heights that are hard to categorize. With 6'3", people can't tell if its tall or very tall. And with 6'6", you are considered insanely tall, but its the only insanely tall height that isn't at the 2 meter mark.
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 17/Jan/21
How do you guys consider 5ft 6.5 as a male height? I know it's objectively short I do feel short from my own eye level but honestly looking at guys around my height they don't look too small, neither do people like Messi, Xavi, Raymond Cruz, Michael Mando but some like Martin Freeman do. Depends on company and proportions I guess.

How often do you see guys my height in western countries? Would I feel like somewhat of an outlier as a 169 cm Indian dude in somewhere like New York or London? A true 5'9-5'10" new yorker friend claims the average in New York "has to be 6ft atleast" and some say there are many ethnics so the average isn't particularly high.
AlphaOmega said on 16/Jan/21
@Olympian, it’s not just Newfoundland, over 80% of white Canadians (outside Quebec) are descended from Anglo-Saxons, just like most white Americans. Because I live near the border (I’m in Washington state), I’ve been to Canada quite a few times (BC and Alberta) and I felt average there too. The white people in Canada are no shorter than in the US.


@Poster, short women guess people to be taller than they actually are because just about everyone seems tall to them
AlphaOmega said on 16/Jan/21
@G Suave, you’re not repeating what Olympian said because he never said he goes to a white school. Again, you still think he goes to a white school when he already said he doesn’t. No I don’t live in Toronto, I just go by what he said and he said there’s barely any white guys there. Did you read his recent comment? He said there’s usually only 1-2 white guys in his classes.

@Christian, yeah it’s the whole Canadian population (that includes all races) that’s shorter than US because, like you said, Canada’s minorities are mostly non-black. White Canadians are the same height as white Americans, and white Australians, white New Zealanders, and all the other white Anglo countries. So G Suave is wrong in his assumption that white Canadians are shorter than white Americans. All UK-descended countries have the same average for white men: 5’10.
slim 6'1 said on 16/Jan/21
@ Clif booth
If I were you i would go with 5’10” 178cm
Bwk said on 16/Jan/21
@AlphaOmega Where are the stats that show Canadian men average 5'10"?
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Jan/21
@Rapha
But I've seen some people try to cheat a measurement by lifting their heels ever so slightly, where it's virtually unnoticeable. Or "busting a gut" to squeeze every last mm in. So it's not always a perfect measurement, even with humans.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Jan/21
@Canson
6'3" is around 2 SD's from average, so I can see it being classified as very tall, though any less than that may be just regular tall. 6'3" IMO is also the starting point where being any taller doesn't give you added advantages, unless if you're a pro athlete. I'd even say 6'2.5"

@Boyg
Yes, but not as efficiently as I used to be able to, back when I played ball in high school. I'm probably just rusty.
winkler91 said on 16/Jan/21
Sorry for my english, but I hope you can understand this.

Standing against the wall I am always 1cm shorter than facing the wall.. I know it can be the posture and I tend to bend my spine a little bit when standing against it with my back. But I figured that its also hard to do it alone without help when standing against the wall. Specially because my wall is not a smooth wall (its a wallpaper), so when I bring down the aerosole can it kind of get stuck or it even slips when I turn around. Also I am not sure if the can is in the right angle to the wall.It varies too much.

I am sure my front measurement is correct.


If you want to get a correct against the wall measurement also make sure you can smoothly bring your can down. Like in my bathroom wall. But then the problem is that it can slip when turning around.

Would love to do a stadiometer measurement :D
Italian guy said on 16/Jan/21
@Rob I went out with a girl, she had a 3-4 cm heel (I had normal shoes with 2 cm soles) and she was looking at my mouth when we stood up straight. How tall could she be barefoot? Assuming I am around 190-191 cm, thank you.
Editor Rob
possibly 181cm range maybe pushing 182
Canson said on 16/Jan/21
Boyg said on 15/Jan/21
Can anybody here dunk a basketball?

I can barely dunk with one hand, having long arms helps but no excuses I have a friend that’s 5’10” and can slam it down!

Like most sports though, it’s really all training.

Surprisingly at 39 I still can
G Suave said on 16/Jan/21
@Boyg never tried dunking but I can touch the Rim on a 10 foot net I’m around 5’11.
borat1 said on 16/Jan/21
Hey @Rob!! Why some female's who're 5'6 often look taller or give impression of a 5'8 women along with?? IS it a perception or just posture at play??
Editor Rob
maybe with slender physique and smaller head, this can be equivalent to a taller look.
Sakz said on 16/Jan/21
@George89 Good chart. I agree with your assessment.

@181guy I would say 6'3 is on the low end of 'very tall'. After all, it's 5-6 inches taller than the average male depending on the demographic. I would say that's pretty much a towering difference.
Zober said on 16/Jan/21
@g suave i still dont get your really weird logic. If the average in germany is 178-179 how could you feel above average there if you are barely taller then that.
winkler91 said on 16/Jan/21
How much can the out of bed height vary? I measure 190,5 or 190,6 but sometimes 190,4...today 190,3. I haven't drunk any water in 11 hours but I didn't feel really dehydrated.

Also, does it make a difference if you sleep on a bed or a couch? I only sleep on a sofa bed for years.
ChaosControl 6'2 1/2 said on 16/Jan/21
@Boyg I can’t shoot straight in basketball, let alone dunk. Was ok in defending last time I played (back in school)
Canson said on 16/Jan/21
G Suave said on 15/Jan/21
@181guy I can tell apart 6’3 and 6’4, but when someone is like 6’3.5 they would likely round up. However, some guys will try to say 6’5 or something like that.

I know someone now who is 6’2.5-6’3 range a bartender who’s bar we always go into. He claims 6’3.75 and rounds to 6’4”. Everyone knows he lies and it’s so funny. My legit 6’3 in his prime (today 6’2.75-6’3) was a hair taller last time they stood back to back. He always tries to inflate everyone by an inch too. I remember one day he said to me what are you 6’5” and told my 6’3 friend he was 6’4”. He only gave me 6’5 because I claimed 6’4.5. The funniest was when he told another legit 6’4” guy that I was sitting near that he was 6’5 and they argued. I looked at the other guy and told him that the bartender is delusional when it comes to height and that we should grab a tape measure lol
tajaun gibbison said on 16/Jan/21
@Boyg

It's been about a year since I last played basketball. I could only dunk with one hand and off one leg. Two legged dunks felt uncomfortable, so I never attempted them. I have a friend slightly taller than I am (maybe 188cm) who could do reverse dunks and two legged dunks. He also had a 6'8" wingspan and could palm the basketball, which I think helped. Even though my wingspan is over 5" longer than my height, I think that's pretty normal for Black people. Science says Black people have longer arms than other races at the same height.
Italian guy said on 16/Jan/21
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Jan/21
@Italian Guy
How often would you see 6'6"+ guys in public? I'd see them maybe once or twice every few weeks, but I live in a suburban area that's around 5'8". If I go to the downtown area with a lot more people, then the chances of seeing 6'6"+ is higher.

I used to live in the tallest region of Italy with the average for young guys around 5'11 and I had like 3 or 4 Friends taller than 6'6. However where I am now the average is around 5'9 I would see someone who is 6'6 maybe once a week
pioneeringtown said on 16/Jan/21
Hey Rob, I bought a new aerosol can(room spray), online. Holding it against my door, it stays stable and still, but I noticed there's a slight bend in the sorrounding (ring-shaped portion) of the can's base. I feel It wouldn't cause any errors. I'll link a couple pictures of the can's base. What do you r opinion on it Rob?
Link:
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Editor Rob
it might not effect things much, as long as when you lay the can flat on a surface and there's no real gaps from one end to another, that is a good can to measure with.
ChaosControl 6'2 1/2 said on 15/Jan/21
Do we all at least agree that 220cm is the start of supergiant height?
(BTW my name is different because it was claiming my supplier details were invalid)
MaskDeMasque said on 15/Jan/21
@Blanc

Fair enough.

Most dating sites I've used don't have a half inch option. I'm 5'9.5 and always round up on those sites. Any else feel a bit weird by being a 'half' guy or girl? If I claim my exact height I feel a bit like a nerd lol but if I claim 5'9 I feel I'm cutting myself short but 5'10 is exaggerating. I wish I was
a height that was bang on the nose or thereabouts.
Taklish guy said on 15/Jan/21
Taklish guy

Hey I have an upset stomach so I haven’t been able to drink any water and barely eat anything in 24h. I am fairly dehydrated. Well the results I found were that w extreme dehydration I measure about 185.4 or 6’1. Which also is my extreme low which I barely ever see after like 2-3 hour basketball practice or game measured at 11pm or soemthing. So my conclusion is that dehydration for 24h causes you to lose 3ish mm from your normal evening low. Also yes my hands are absolutely huge. But I am a late bloomer and I went a while ago for injured knee to bone tests. My growth plates are still open in lefs, I am still growing. So my hand size is not as extreme in reality as it seems. It is way more extreme for a 6’1 man than let’s say a 6’2-3 man which is a zone I cold potentially get into in the future
Canson said on 15/Jan/21
@Zigzag: I’ve noticed that certain fighters that are listed at say 6’4 and say 185lbs really aren’t. Being that height myself, i can tell you that 185 would make me look too thin whereas these guys look almost proportionate. I guess that inch or inch and a half difference (I supposed they are 6’2.5-6’3) matters in terms of appearance as that type of height wouldn’t look as thin. I weight 215-220 and look lean but muscular and broad shouldered but not thin or fat. However this is with a decent amount of muscle mass. However a guy this size at 215-220 isn’t going to usually look fat either. They would look normal. 185lbs on a 6’4” guy will look thin almost always

Francis Ngannou doesn’t look 6’4 imho neither do Jon Jones or Israel Adesanya who is listed at 185
Boyg said on 15/Jan/21
Can anybody here dunk a basketball?

I can barely dunk with one hand, having long arms helps but no excuses I have a friend that’s 5’10” and can slam it down!

Like most sports though, it’s really all training.
Canson said on 15/Jan/21
@Christian: I’d put legit 6’3 as very tall
G Suave said on 15/Jan/21
@Solid 5’11 you can claim 5’11.25 or 181cm in metric. Anything you measure throughout the day is fair game so between 5’11-6’0 👍
G Suave said on 15/Jan/21
@181guy I can tell apart 6’3 and 6’4, but when someone is like 6’3.5 they would likely round up. However, some guys will try to say 6’5 or something like that.
G Suave said on 15/Jan/21
@Alpha Again you’re bugging out, I am literally repeating what Bobby (Olympian) previously said to me. Now whether he was over exaggerating or going back on his word that’s totally up to him. I don’t know what goes on in his brain. His college is typical for a Canadian University which is mainly White, I am assuming 75% White 10% African American and maybe 15% Asian/Hispanic and all the other minorities. That’s usually how colleges in CAN/US go. He mentioned he felt above average all over Canada, and there’s been many debates which to be Frank I don’t care about. Don’t shoot the messenger I’m simply repeating what I heard and I could care less what you think about it LOL.
Have you lived in Toronto? How do you know they are mainly non-white and you’re saying in U.S they are white. I think you’re just being bias to believe what you want to hear.
G Suave said on 15/Jan/21
@Winkler yeah I think the average around most of Germany is like 178-179cm 180 would be getting into Dutch territory like 181 I think would be the average in Holland for Men. But there’s also lots of Nords, Dutch and Danes living in Germany so you could see excess of 180cm averages in the taller parts. I felt pretty much above average in Germany.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Jan/21
@Italian Guy
How often would you see 6'6"+ guys in public? I'd see them maybe once or twice every few weeks, but I live in a suburban area that's around 5'8". If I go to the downtown area with a lot more people, then the chances of seeing 6'6"+ is higher.

@Jdubbz
Interesting how your hand length is shorter than mine but your span is wider. It could be that your thumbs and pinkies are longer than mine, or you just have wider palms.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Jan/21
@Alpha
Maybe it's just the Canadian pop. in whole that's shorter. But the strange thing about it, is that Canada has a higher white percentage than America, like I said previously. Maybe white Canadians are exactly the same height as white Americans like you said, but that the minorities in Canada bring down the average more so than American minorities, as Canada has less blacks compared to America, and we all know that blacks are virtually the same height as whites. That's just my speculation though.

@tajuan
I'd rather not put too much thought into it if I were you though. The more you think that way, the more self conscious you become, and that self-consciousness can turn into insecurity and decreased self-esteem. I have thicker eyebrows than most people, and even got teased for it occasionally (though nothing serious), but I'd brush it off and not let it affect me. I'm not sure if you ever got teased for your hand size, but even if you did, I wouldn't worry about it, or better yet, get back at the teaser by teasing him about a body part that's out of proportion, lol.
181guy said on 15/Jan/21
@Italian guy You won't see too many guys taller than yourself often, because you're 6'3. Perhaps 6'3 is borderline 'very tall'. Quite a few posters categorise 6'3 as very tall in their height charts, it's interesting.
Rapha said on 15/Jan/21
Editor Rob

I think it's universally accepted by most physicians or researchers to keep our feet planted firmly when measuring.

I'm glad I don't have to measure animals, imagine some dogs claiming their real height is on their hind legs with back against the stadiometer

"but you humans get to have your height on two feet, why not me!" 🐶


Hehe, that is indeed true :). Btw, how do you explain that phenomena, that you are on one leg taller than on two legs ?
Editor Rob
your hips can adjust and pivot a little bit to add a bit of height.

A couple years ago I did a quick video showing my height increase when shifting weight to one foot.
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 15/Jan/21
@Blanc oh but I did. I answered every question
George89 said on 15/Jan/21
I feel the average for men in UK is 176cm. I go between 174cm in the morning and just above 172cm at night. My height is the low average range but not short in the UK. The 18-30 age range (I'm 31) may average slightly taller but on the whole I think it's their slimmer, younger frames that make them appear taller than they actually are. Here's my height chart for men.
5ft6 and under = short
5ft7 = tall end of short
5ft8 = low average
5ft9 = average
5ft10 = high average
5ft11 = above average
6ft = low tall
6ft1 = tall
6ft2 = high end of normal tall
6ft3 = low end of very tall
6ft4 = very tall
6ft5 = high end of very tall
6ft6+ huge mofo

That's my perceptions from a guy living in the south of England.
Rohon Ray said on 15/Jan/21
If 2 people were to compare their heights back to back and one of them is a 1/2 inch taller, would their height difference be noticable assuming they are on a flat surface barefoot?
Editor Rob
yes, it would be visible if you flattened both of their hairstyles.

If you had a long book or ruler and put it on both heads, it would make it easier to tell small differences like 1/4 inch more easily.
winkler91 said on 14/Jan/21
@Christian 6'5 3/8

Yes could be. I have nevern been in Southern Germany. But I doubt that in Northern Germany the average is 182-184cm or so. By the way I also doubt all the 184cm listings for the Netherlands.

I live in the northern part of Germany and always feel tall with my solid/strong 6'2.
And I have a friend who is 186cm, he is also considered tall.

Im Germany espcially in big cities there are many Immigrants that are shorter than us germans in average. I would believe 182cm for young germans in Northern Germany. But average for the entire male popularity of Northern Germany I think is 180. And in the South I would believe 179cm.
winkler91 said on 14/Jan/21
If you say "my low"....
Are you refering to your normal before bed height or your afternoon height?

I figured that my before bed height is around 3mm lower than my afternoon height in many cases. However this happens when I do things im the evening like walking, standing, sitting and not lying on the coach of course.
On Celebheights I think Rob said its about afternoon listings.

And what would you say, how much can be the extreme low compared to your normal before bed height?
AlphaOmega said on 14/Jan/21
@G Suave, the point you were trying to make is that Olympian feels above average - even for a white male. This is all while you THOUGHT he went to a white school. He just said his school is mostly non-white, so why do you continue to say his school is mostly white? He lives in Toronto, a heavily non-white city.

My point is 5’10 is average for white males (above average for minorities). So of course Olympian will feel above average when his school is mostly non-white.

And what do you mean there are no “majority white” schools? Most of the US (outside of urban areas) are majority white.
AlphaOmega said on 14/Jan/21
@181guy, 6’3 and 6’4 pretty much look the same to me. In fact, most people are far enough away from 6’3-6’4 that those heights get blurred.
AlphaOmega said on 14/Jan/21
@Christian, I’ve been to Canada a few times and the average there feels the same. Stats show white Canadian men are 5’10 (the same as white American men). All white Anglo countries (US, Canada, UK, AUS, NZ) have 5’10 average for white men. If white Canadians (white Canadians only) were shorter than white American men, then so would the UK, AUS, NZ, etc - which isn't the case.
Poster said on 14/Jan/21
@AlphaOmega: You're right about short women. They almost always guess people taller than they are. That's why many people think that 5'6 guys are 5'8 and that 5'8 guys are 5'10. The same girls also often add two or more inches to their own heights.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Jan/21
@Clif
That means your "normal" posture may be quite bad, if there's a 1.3cm discrepancy between the two. I'm only a few mm's taller when I have perfect military posture, compared to my normal one.
ZigZag said on 14/Jan/21
@181guy
Yeah I posted my brackets awhile and for some of them I separated them like for example 5’11” was above average and 6’0” was tallish. I think if It did over again I would still have 6’3” and 6’4” in the same bracket but I’d say 6’3” is “quite tall” and 6’4” “very tall”. I think a good rule for very tall is you must be tall enough that when you have interactions with people your height is almost always the first thing they notice. A weak 6’3” yeah it’s getting there for sure, but it seems most people report that 6’4” is where you get the constant height comments. I’ve also noticed that for celebrities you need to be at least 6’3.5” for your height to be one of the things you are famous for. Examples include Conan, Jeff Goldblum, David Hasselhoff, Jason Momoa, Vince Vaughn. You also might notice none of the actors listed are traditional leading men types. 6’3” and 6’4” are tall enough to be at the very end of what is considered the normal height range. Once you get to say 6’5.5” or so people that aren’t even interacting with you are likely to consciously acknowledge your height even if only briefly.
Jdubbz said on 14/Jan/21
@Yharnamman:

Here's my take on the categorization of tall heights

6'1 - 6'4 = tall
6'4 - 6'7 = very tall
6'7 - 6'10 = extremely tall
6'10 - 7'0 = insanely tall
7'0 and up = gigantic
Jdubbz said on 14/Jan/21
@Blanc:

Height: 6'5.75" at night
Wingspan: 6'5.75", exactly the same as my height

Bike inseam: 39.5"
pants inseam: 37"

My hands are 8.33" long and my "hand span" is 9.75".

I'd love to be 7' tall if there were no health/lifestyle impacts. Hell, I'd rather be 8 feet tall if the world were built around that size and I didn't have any back/knee/joint pain.
Solid 5'11 said on 14/Jan/21
Rob, my neight height is 1.80.4 and my lowest is 1.80.2-1.80 after gym. right out of bed i am 1.82.3, 4 hours out of bed i am 1.80.9. would be more fair to claim 1.81 or 1.80 ?
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 14/Jan/21
@MaskDeMasque Those figures are for 19 year olds
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 14/Jan/21
@MaskDeMasque @Italian guy yeah it seems so, I agree

@c-mo I see, thanks for answering
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 14/Jan/21
@ChaosControl 6'2.5 They're not *important*. Sexual orientation to know if the prospective partner (their ideal height) mentioned is a male or female. Since we're doing body stats we might as well go all in LOL. You don't have to answer every one though.
ajax509 said on 14/Jan/21
@Dan84
179.4 out of bed
177.6 low
176.8 reach
86.2 inseam (wear 32″)
26.4 left foot
26.1 right foot (wear 7 1/2 UK, 8 1/2 US or 41 EU)

@c-mo
Have experienced similar night outs in Germany. Average could be 5ft 11 in this age group.
IpaBega said on 14/Jan/21
@c-mo 176.2 So how do young ethnic Germans range? Like what is the shortest height you see and tallest when walking around? And how are most man height wise?
tajaun gibbison said on 14/Jan/21
@Taklish guy
Wow dude, those are some huge mitts.

@Christian
Wish my hands were at least 8.5" length and 9" span. I think my hands look really small compared to my height.
Rapha said on 14/Jan/21
Hi Rob

I have made the same experiment as you when measuring with one leg and I came up with the same results as you, I am 1.5 to 2 cm taller when measuring with only the right leg. Would you say that this is a valid measurement ?
I would argue that it is as you are not "cheating" while standing on your toes for example, you still remain with the the feets on the ground (only if it is with one).
It might be the "maximum" height someone can achieve, maybe even more than the busting gut technique because it seems that it does straighten your spine and body to the fullest extent.

What are your thoughts on that ?
Editor Rob
I think it's universally accepted by most physicians or researchers to keep our feet planted firmly when measuring.

I'm glad I don't have to measure animals, imagine some dogs claiming their real height is on their hind legs with back against the stadiometer

"but you humans get to have your height on two feet, why not me!" 🐶
Olympian said on 14/Jan/21
@Christian

The white populace in Canada is actually spread out, not concentrated in Toronto. Therefore, Toronto has an average that does not reflect 5'10 at all. I really think the average here in Toronto is 5'8-5'8.5 overall. Only in Newfoundland would the average height for men be closer to 5'10 because the white populace in Newfoundland is those descended from Anglo-Saxons, the Irish, and Scots.
Solid 5'11 said on 14/Jan/21
Rob, do you suggest to bust a gut while i am measuring height? that will be my real height?
Editor Rob
If you want to get a few more mm, then it's your maximal height.

In the notes for the National health survey (in the UK) which records height, it suggests the health workers when measuring to ask participant to breathe in and stand at their tallest.
G Suave said on 14/Jan/21
@Christian Going back to what you said about eye levels, most of the Tall guys I saw had average eye levels, oddly enough I seen more slightly average to above average guys with higher eye levels than taller guys, but they did have a larger head size usually.
G Suave said on 14/Jan/21
@Yharnamman You can throw 6’0 in there as well.
G Suave said on 14/Jan/21
@Christian Exactly, which kind of blew my mind when Olympian said he didn’t go to a predominantly white school, because I could have sworn he mentioned there was mainly White students, with the exception of a few minorities. He also used to always say he felt above average on campus, so either he was exaggerating or didn’t pay attention to anyone taller ( which I doubt). And he said if someone was to be taller than him it would usually be by an inch or two. I remember that very well.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Jan/21
@181guy
I get where you're coming from. 6'4" noticeably sticks out in a crowd more so than 6'3", though those two are the borderline between regular tall and very tall. 6'4"+ is very tall for sure though.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Jan/21
@Yharnamman
It's a decent chart, but I'd first and foremost tweak "giant" to 6'8" or 6'9"+ rather than 7'0"+. I don't think that there's a 6'11" guy on earth who doesn't often get referred to as a giant, unless if all he lives around are NBA players. Even I sometimes get called a giant at my height, lol.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Jan/21
@Chaos
I know, it otherwise would be a completely normal height survey if it wasn't for those questions. I don't see how those two have anything to do with height. It's a common misconception that the male "private area" is correlated with height.

@tajuan
I wouldn't worry about having "oversized" or "undersized" body parts. Virtually nobody has perfect proportions all throughout their body. I have disproportionately long legs and and a short torso for some reason, though most other body parts are around average.
Sorta6 said on 14/Jan/21
@Dan84
Height out of bed:185.6
Height before bed:183.5
Inseam: 33 inch
Wingspan:76.5
Shoe size: UK 13
Clif booth said on 14/Jan/21
How should I stand for measurement ? When I stand normal I am 176'5cm and with very good posture I am 177.8cm . What height should I claim
Editor Rob
I would go with a standing tall measurement.
Heightist9999 said on 14/Jan/21
Blanc (1.69 m) And I just found out what Inseam is. Thought it was waist circumference, you probably mean leg lenght right? Never measured that, sorry :D
Heightist9999 said on 14/Jan/21
Blanc (1.69 m), Yes, I noticed im somehow shorter when sitting. I have relatively long legs and smaller torso and arms. No one has ever commented on it. Actually, people usually think im taller than 170 cm. And Im a guy.
Italian guy said on 14/Jan/21
Yharnamman said on 13/Jan/21
Do you think this is a good height chart for tall heights(North America/Europe)?
I would put 6'1-6'2 as tall and 6'3-6'5 as very tall
Italian guy said on 14/Jan/21
Guys what would you describe as a rare height in public? For me it's 6'6 and up. Because Everyday I see at least 3-4 people around my height or a bit taller like in the 6'4- 6'5 range. But anything taller than that is pretty uncommon. However I would describe someone as very tall already at 6'2.5- 6'3.
Italian guy said on 14/Jan/21
181guy said on 13/Jan/21
6'3 is quite tall but I feel a 6'4 guy is a real standout height, thoughts?

I am 190.5-191 in the afternoon, I feel very tall most of the time. For me already strong 6'2 range Is very tall. Btw I live in a place with 175 cm average.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Jan/21
@Yharnamman
186 for a Korean is maybe like 6'3" or 6'4" for a westerner, so I wouldn't say "unique" or "rare", but very tall nonetheless. I've actually seen a few Asian guys around or close my height on a couple of occasions, though they may be Asian Americans and not native Asians.

@Alpha
Greg made a good point bringing up Canada. Several stats show that Canadian men on average, are slightly shorter than American men, and Canada has a higher white population percentage than America.
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 14/Jan/21
@Blanc I did your survey, why are sexual orientation and size “down there” important?
Italian guy said on 14/Jan/21
@Dan84
Height out of bed:192 cm
Height at a low:190 cm
Inseam: I wear 32-3 inch inseam jeans
Foto size:10.5 us
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Jan/21
@Korean
I heard that Korea is the tallest East Asian country though. Whenever I go to Koreatown in my city, I notice that the local Koreans are a bit taller than other Asian groups like Chinese or Thai, and the younger Koreans aren't that far off from young whites and blacks in terms of height. I don't know exactly about native Koreans, but I'd estimate young Korean Americans to be around 5'8.5" based on what I see.

@tajuan
Just measured mine, and it was around 8.75" in length, 9.5" in width (fingers spread wide as possible), and 3 5/8" for palm width. I'd say overall, it seems either pretty average or ever so slightly above average.
slim 6'1 said on 14/Jan/21
In Australia 181-182 is tallish but a solid tall is 183-184
slim 6'1 said on 14/Jan/21
Young Aussie men are pretty tall, the average I think is 178.5cm
Yharnamman said on 13/Jan/21
@Korean Yes that is a pretty unique height for an East Asian. At 186 cm you'd still feel tall if you visited Northern/Central Europe.
Yharnamman said on 13/Jan/21
Do you think this is a good height chart for tall heights(North America/Europe)?

6'1"-6'3" tall
6'4"-6'5" very tall
6'6"-6'8" insanely tall
6'9"-6'11" extremely tall
7'+ giant

I don't know about height ranges 6'9"+, but the rest of the heights are generally grouped together that way.
Yharnamman said on 13/Jan/21
@Canson I think he was just never properly measured and was thinking thats what his height was. I've known people at the 2 meter mark(6'7"), its an unreal height. The fact that he claimed even taller than that, theres no way that was the case. He was 6'6", give or take a 1/4".
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Jan/21
@Alpha
I see women 6'0"+ probably less frequently than you do. Maybe twice a month at best, sometimes even longer. Even guys around my height, I see maybe one every 2 weeks or so. Then again, I live in an area that's probably only 5'8" for men and 5'3" for women.

@winkler
But it may depend on the area in Germany. I heard that northern Germany is taller than southern, and can rival Scandinavia or even the Netherlands in terms of height. But I don't doubt that 6'1" would still be considered tall there, but maybe the low end of tall though.
181guy said on 13/Jan/21
6'3 is quite tall but I feel a 6'4 guy is a real standout height, thoughts?
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Jan/21
Dan84 said on 10/Jan/21
I intrigued to see what measurements people have compared to me, especially those of a similar height. Here are some of mine to start things off:
Height out of bed: 185.5 cm or so.
Height as a low- 184cm or there abouts.
Wingspan- 186cm
Inseam: generally wear 33 inch inseam
Foot length- bang on 11 inches.

-

Out of bed: 198.4cm
Low: 196.5cm
Wingspan: 194-195cm
Inseam: 36 (pants), 38.5 (bike inseam)
Foot length: 29cm-ish (so around 13.5-14 US)
But the cm shoe sizing system is strange, because I wear 14's and all of the tags say 32cm, when it should be 29-29.5cm.
181guy said on 13/Jan/21
@AlphaOmega I do the same thing. If I see a woman taller than me I immediately look to see if they are wearing heels. I work at quite a busy store so I see people of all heights, It's completely normal to see 6'1-6'3 guys walking around.
Zaratustraelsabio said on 13/Jan/21
Does somebody has one projector?... Is it possible use it to project pics about height people?

Click Here
Italian guy said on 13/Jan/21
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 11/Jan/21
All wrong
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 13/Jan/21
Hi, I made a survey. Would be nice to have as much data as possible for height and certain stats. I'll plot the info conveniently after.

Click Here
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 13/Jan/21
My hand length is bang on average / 9.7 cm-ish. Feet 9 7/8 inches, I generally wear an 8 UK, feel like that's on the smaller side.
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 13/Jan/21
@Heightist9999 that's pretty interesting. Do you feel particularly short sitting down? Does someone ever comment on your proportions in any way?
You're a guy, right?
G Suave said on 13/Jan/21
@Zober I am 5’10.75” and I never said I was “a tallish Tower of a man” you are overexagerrating I just said I feel tallish and above average. Doesn’t mean I don’t wish to be taller. It’s not the end of the world, but yeah I know your bias towards me is leading to these ignorant and stupid remarks.
G Suave said on 13/Jan/21
@Winkler91 Yeah 6’1 is tall universally, 6’0 is a solid tall in most places. But in Germany I think it would be the start of tall, depending on where you go the average varies. However, I think in places like Holland and Dinarc Alps the average is higher.
G Suave said on 13/Jan/21
@Alpha How are you going to try and explain to me what “my” point was? Are you inside my brain right now, are you a magician, a miracle worker. Go on enlighten me. He is in Canada and his school is likely mainly white, they have their minorities however. As does mine and yours, no school is “Majority white “ since the 1960s. That being said Bobby (Olympian) has mentioned before he felt above average on campus. He described the general average of men in Canada to be like 5’8-5’9 or something like that. Give or take. So baring that information in mind. He never said he felt average, notice how you’re trying to speak for him and I both. I don’t even care if you disagree at this point, because I don’t agree with you are likely not gauging the average correctly. Or happen to go to an exceptionally tall school.
Taklish guy said on 13/Jan/21
Taklish guy
@tajuan gibbison

I am a hair over 6’1 at my low. Like 6’1 1/8 or 185.7. I consider myself by this sites standards as a 186 guy. My feet are small for at just 10.75 inches long/ I usually wear Us 10.5. My hand span so from thumb to pinky is every so slightly above 10 inches. And my hand length is about 9 inches. I belive I have very big hands for my height. Especially my hand span. Also I wake up at around 187.8 if that’s useful
c-mo 176.2cm said on 13/Jan/21
@Blanc (1.69 m)

well i would say that the average height for young ethnic german men is around 5'11 . sometimes it even feels like 6'0 - 6'1 at some nights in a nightclub or back then when i was on campus no joke (but rarely) . anything below 178-179cm nighttime for young ethnic german men is a joke claim that much i can tell you .

i am ethnically kurdish and i am pretty average for young men of my ethnicity ...maybe a little taller than average

and even though ethnic germans are pretty tall i still dont feel short most of the time and feel pretty medium . sometimes even very slightly tallish . but as i said there are some evenings or situations where even my height feels a little shortish here . for example on the night of new year 2019 to 2020 i was clubbing with a buddy who is 184cm and he brought a friend who was around 181cm or so and believe it or not my 184cm looked to be the average height in the club . the 181cm guy seemed almost weak average . i kid you not . and no i didnt just notice taller guys . it caught my eye and i looked at guys heights and it was really odd . or i remember in winter 2019 i was on the christmas market with a friend who is i guess around 178cm at night and i compared his height with those of other men and he seemed low average at best ...even a little below average . and there was a kid who was easily 205cm or something and many tall men in general i was like wtf is going on here ....


@Christian 6'5 3/8"

well i do like my height . it is definitely a "quite good" or "decent" height to be . i wouldnt want to be much taller either

and my height personally feels like as if i was a few centimeters taller that it would be perfect . something around 180-184cm

dont get me wrong though your height is also good of course . i am not saying that heights above 6'0 are bad . but i do think anything above 185cm can not be considered perfect from my own analysis

the most harmonic proportions i have seen on other men were almost always roughly 175cm - 182cm . and also the best looking guys facially i have seen (and also celebs) were in this height range . i have good proportions myself if i dare to say ...and i am considered good looking by many people . but below 180 (or at least 178cm ) has some problems . for example heels that women wear ...when you have a woman who is 172cm she is shorter than me barefeet but if she wears 10cm heels and i see her in a club then she will be taller than me which sucks . or you can feel a bit shortish on certain evenings that i described above with my 184cm buddy . therefore being something around 180-182cm is the best . if proportions are very good then 184-185cm ...
Taklish guy said on 13/Jan/21
Taklish guy
@tajuan gibbison

I am a hair over 6’1 at my low. Like 6’1 1/8 or 185.7. I consider myself by this sites standards as a 186 guy. My feet are small for at just 10.75 inches long/ I usually wear Us 10.5. My hand span so from thumb to pinky is every so slightly above 10 inches. And my hand length is about 9 inches. I belive I have very big hands for my height. Especially my hand span. Also I wake up at around 187.8 if that’s useful
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Jan/21
@G Suave
Very tall guys tend to have a higher than average eye levels, because their heads are bigger than average. That was my point. Your average 5'9" guy may just have a 4.5" eye level.

@Tomi
So you're saying that you measure with your boots on?
slim 6'1 said on 13/Jan/21
G suave, you stunted your growth right? Weren’t you meant to end up at 5’11.5” or something?
MaskDeMasque said on 13/Jan/21
@Blanc

Some of those figures seem iffy. I don't believe the average Spanish man is 5'9.5, maybe for the younger generation but I've been to Spain a few times and I'd say the average for guys like 40+ is no more than 5'8.5. I'm 5'9.5 and felt slightly taller than most guys there.
John124 said on 13/Jan/21
c-mo 176.2cm said on 27/Dec/20
@John124 and some others

what is this "alpha male" thing supposed to be ? being alpha has little to do with height . if you cant be "alpha" at 5'11 then you wont be alpha at 6'4 either

furthermore in my experience if we are talking about fighting then the most dangerous men are around 5'10 - 6'0 with a heavy frame since you are tall enough to not have all that much weight and reach disadvantage but short enough to make taller men problems due to cutting the distance and have the advantage in infighting and also overhand right punches etc

like a prime mike tyson or david tua basically

of course being really tall and heavy has its own advantages no question . but you get the point

180cm - 185cm is without a doubt the best height range to be in ...taller than that is still good but not perfect anymore . even 185cm can be a little bit "too tall" to be ideal since some 185cm guys can look goofy already

but provided that the proportions are good and even better with a mesomorphic build too then 180 - 185 is the ULTIMATE height range to fall in

but i am repeating myself again ....

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@c-mo 176.2cm

It is reasonable for you to question what was said about 'alpha' heights. I also considered responding to Oded's comment by saying that being alpha is a state of mind and has nothing to do with height. But unfortunately height does factor to some extent. If a man is in the 5'5 - 5'7 range it becomes more difficult for him to feel alpha in relation to someone 6'2 - 6'4. But it should ideally be possible to feel alpha at any height, and being the most relaxed and confident individual in any group definitely makes up for a shorter stature.

Mike Tyson was very effective with his tight defense style - a 5'10 average height guy who was far from average. Some thought of him simply as a brawler which he certainly was not, there was a lot of skill in how he defended and created angles in order to counter attack. He was certainly an alpha male in some sense, but this also depends on what constitutes an alpha male. He controlled and expertly utilised range and the rage within him in the boxing ring, but outside of the ring was plagued by depression, drug addiction, fear, and anger. He was far from stable. The true alpha male in this scenario was his trainer Cus D'Amato, who is considered by many as the best boxing coach in history. Mike, these days in his 50's however, certainly gives off more of an alpha male vibe.
AlphaOmega said on 13/Jan/21
@Tomi, some people call 5’11 tall because if the observer is short enough, that height would seem tall. To a 5’0 woman, even a 5’7 man would seem tall. Just about any height can seem short or tall, depending on the height of the observer.
AlphaOmega said on 13/Jan/21
@G Suave, no your point wasn’t that Olympian feels above average. Your point was you thought he feels above average, while thinking he goes to a white majority school. Now you know his school is mostly non-white. So of course he feels above average in a mostly non-white school. (minorities are mostly shorter)
5’10 is only above average for the whole population. 5’10 is average for white males in most of the US.
AlphaOmega said on 13/Jan/21
@Christian, yeah if you’re defining average as exactly 50th percentile, then a hair over that would be literally “above average”. But when people here discuss “average”, we’re not talking only 50th percentile, we mean anything that LOOKS average. So anything within 1 inch of the average, most people would still consider average. It’s impractical to only define “average” as only 50th because that’s not how the world views it.

You probably see more guys your height because, naturally, you’re going to notice people your height much easier than someone 5 inches shorter than you (they easily blend into your field of vision). I don’t know about 6’0 women, because I can’t tell people’s exact height, but I do see women taller than me (I’m 5’10.5) a few times a month. (and no they’re not wearing heels. Every time I see a girl taller than me, I look at down at her shoes to make sure it’s not a 5’7 woman wearing heels). Last year, I saw 4 women (in separate encounters, they weren’t together) in public who were so strikingly tall that I asked them their height (6’2, 6’2, 6’3, 6’4 – not wearing heels either). I see guys your height at around the same frequency as women taller than me. (a few times a month)
AlphaOmega said on 13/Jan/21
@181guy, I don’t know about 6’0 women, because I can’t tell people’s exact height, but I do see women a little taller than me (I’m 5’10.5) a few times a month. (and no they’re not wearing heels. Every time I see a girl taller than me, I look at down at her shoes to make sure it’s not a 5’7 woman wearing heels). Last year, I saw 4 women (in separate encounters, they weren’t together) in public who were so strikingly tall that I asked them their height (6’2, 6’2, 6’3, 6’4 - not wearing heels).
thatmanoverthere said on 13/Jan/21
Rob, would going from 183.9 cm first thing in the morning to 182.6 cm after a long day be significantly less than the average amount of shrinkage for someone around my height?
Editor Rob
yeah that's less than average for your height range
Korean said on 13/Jan/21
@Blanc Im 186 south korean. my height is 185.5 15:00 hospital stadiometer. i feel like very tall at any seoul place. most south koreans are short. average young peoples = ♂173 / ♀159, average 30 ~ 50s peoples = ♂170 / ♀156. hahaha ;)))
winkler91 said on 13/Jan/21
I just want to add that in Germany a legit/solid-strong 6'1 guy is considered tall my most people here. 6 footers are avove average, maybe tallish. Some very strong 6footers (weak 6'1) might be considered rather tall especially with the right proportions. 6'2 range guys are considered tall. 6'3 guys solid to very tall. Everything above is very tall 6'4 ...etc etc
winkler91 said on 13/Jan/21
My guess for my Country - Germany

200 giant
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Jan/21
@Chaos
Nope, I keep my posture the same for both methods. Even if I subconsciously bust a gut, I would notice it right away.

@Yharnamman
Probably the worst inflation I've seen coming from a very tall guy, is a 6'6.5" guy who claimed 6'9". I chuckled when I heard that. But generally, very tall guys like 6'6"+ don't inflate by a crazy amount, unless if they're athletes or wrestlers, etc. In fact, I've seen a quite few who round down, most notably a near 6'9" guy who told me that he claims 6'8" to people because he doesn't like his height.
winkler91 said on 12/Jan/21
@Canson: Yesterday I woke up at 8, went to the supermarket and then worked at my PC. At 1pm I left house and was over 1 hour walking outside. I came back and measured 188,7. Even though I wake up at 190,6 first thing (after 8h sleep) I guess the 188,7 nothing more, and this is more my afternoon height.
winkler91 said on 12/Jan/21
Canson you are right. But I think Ou cannot generalize in a way that every guy (lets say above 6 foot or 6'2) loses 1,8-1,9 cm on a normal day. It can always be lets say 2-3mm more or less.

I am 190,6 after 8 hours sleep. After like 15min standing I am already down to 189,8 or so. Typically measure 189,5-,6 after 1hour so this actually my "starting height" people could see me at. I will measure 189,2 (6'2.5) after 3-4h but not more.

I definitl dip below 189 after mid-day expect on lazier days. So I will measure 188,6-,7 in the afternoon. At 9pm after 13h awake I might fall to 188,4.

But it always depends. I work from home and I can also measure 189 flat after 8 hours sometimes.

Though here in my country we use cm and I claimed 1,89 (never said 188 or 190), even though I am probably 6'2.25 on this site. On official measurements between 10am and 4pm I would be 189,3-188,6. Thats enough for me to claim 189.

However my extreme low might be still 6'2 or a hair over but never measured.
tajaun gibbison said on 12/Jan/21
Seems like I'm oversized in every metric relative to my height except my hands which I believe to be relatively small. They measure 8" long and 8.5" span and my palm breadth is around 3.3"-3.4". Would be interesting to know how the other members on the site measure up in terms of hand size and height.
tajaun gibbison said on 12/Jan/21
@Dan84
For me:
Height out of bed: 188.9 cm
Height as a low- 187 cm(thought that 186.7 was my low, but I guess that's an extreme low, since I hit that after doing squats at the gym)
Wingspan- (6'6.75 or 78.75 inches or 200 cm)
Inseam: generally wear 32 inch inseam although a 33 fits as well; never tried 34
Foot length- 11⅝-11¾ inches. I generally wear US 12½.
Mario95 said on 12/Jan/21
Hey Rob I´m 177 cm out of bed at morning and night 174.6-7 cm ¿ what´s my height 175 or 176 cm?
Editor Rob
I'd say 5ft 9, either 175 or 176 is fine, whatever you claim it's still going to be a valid measurement.
G Suave said on 12/Jan/21
@Tomi It’s best to measure yourself at home on a flat surface either with a stadiometer or can against wall method. The digital stadiometers can be wrong sometimes that’s what I heard. But also you could be 180cm out of bed for example and drop to 179cm by noon due to height loss throughout the day so that could be it. We are similar stats, I tend to lose a decent bit. However, I’ve not measured myself on a digital stadiometer yet. The one at my gym is totally broken so I don’t really have access to a good one.
G Suave said on 12/Jan/21
@ChaosControl 6’2.5” Busting a guy can give you a few mms more or less for some it gives more than others. Also it’s weird when you measure on one foot you can gain upwards an inch. I basically am like 5/8ths of an inch taller when measuring on one foot, but I also have scoliosis and a pelvic tilt. So maybe that’s why that is the case for me.
Heightist9999 said on 12/Jan/21
@Blanc (1.69 m), Yes I am sure. What doesn't sound right? I know my 36 inch inseam is really weird for my height and mainly weight (150 pounds, 68 kg). And I kinda have short arms so that might explain my small wingspan.
Canson said on 12/Jan/21
Yharnamman said on 12/Jan/21
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Regarding the 6'10.25" guy, yes the guy might be completely bluffing or giving himself a few inches. Believe it or not, I've seen people in the insanely tall range (6'6"-6'8") claim to be taller than they are. I always remember I was talking to this Native American kid in high school, I suggested hes 6'6" but then he said "no I'm 6'8". Of course I didn't believe it but he likely eventually found out thats not the case.

I’ve seen that too but a lot of times it’s just by maybe an inch. If it’s a former athlete maybe it’s because they didn’t know their actual height
Progking said on 12/Jan/21
@Dan184 yeah those are pretty much my stats i am somewhere 185.5-186 when waking and on a more active day im maybe 183.5 night
@GSuave makes sense so at that height 5 inch eye level is not rare. Mine seems to be a bit over 5 inches when looking in the mirror so id say its pretty uncommon for a 6'0.5 guy. Unless im just measuring wrong and its really more like 4.75-5 inch range.
Zober said on 12/Jan/21
@g suave but if you are already a tallish tower of a man at 5 ft 10.5 why do you want to be 6 ft or 6 ft 1-2?
Neige said on 12/Jan/21
@Rob
Hello, I am exactly 5 ft 11. Is it kinda tall ?
I am a school teacher, and I spend my days standing. Will I shrink more than average ?
Cordially.
Editor Rob
In France, 5ft 11 is above average. It's within what I'd call a crossing over zone, going from upper average to start of tall.

You might find you do get near your very lowest range by mid to late afternoon after a day teaching.
IpaBega said on 12/Jan/21
@Shazz Where you from? And do you have Insta or Facebook?
Rapha said on 12/Jan/21
Hi Rob

By busting a gut when measuring, what was the maximum height increase you could achieve ?
Editor Rob
I did a video a few years ago busting a gut...you can gain a few mm. If you manage more than 5mm you maybe weren't standing tallish to begin with or it's a sign that you can work on your posture a bit more and achieve a better measurement.

I tested it again just now and got 3-4mm difference from decent standing measurement versus busting the gut.
Rapha said on 12/Jan/21
Hi Rob

Do you think that footballers exagerate their height ? It seems that many sportsman do, especially boxers.
Editor Rob

a proportion do round up or inflate, but is it as big as the general population? I don't know.
Rohon Ray said on 12/Jan/21
Is a 1cm difference of height between 2 people noticable if the 2 people are standing back to back?
Editor Rob
it can be spotted if you look for it, but hair/posture/shoes could easily reduce or exaggerate the difference.
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 12/Jan/21
@Christian can’t you gain 3mm from busting a guy (honestly I don’t know how to do it myself) cause way I’m suggesting is you subconsciously try to “correct” your measurement by unknowingly gut-busting
@Yharnamman yeah I’ve seen that. My ex maths teacher claimed 6’6 in a lesson once, then went on to say it was 205cm
Sorta6 said on 12/Jan/21
@Dan84
It's funny, I actually wake up slightly taller than you but I shrink down to just over 183cm before going to bed.
G Suave said on 12/Jan/21
@Slim 6’1 Nah your height is better than 5’10, I would choose 6’0 over 5’10 any day same with 6’1 and 6’2.

@Tomi it depends on a few factors, one who’s observing and two where you are. If you’re in Amsterdam or something 5’11 is going to be average. 5’11 is actually tallish in most places outside of Europe. So 5’11 would be like 70th range percentile. Doesn’t mean it’s average. But it’s not super tall more like tallish.
G Suave said on 12/Jan/21
@Christian That’s a bit above average for eye level 4.5 is the average but you could have someone with a lower/higher eye level, just like head size, shoe size etc.
Sakz said on 12/Jan/21
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Agreed.

@MW0808 I also think being tall has become overrated. It provides an advantage and is ideal for many but it's not the key to a long lasting relationship. Many people nowadays are content with being in the average range because there are other redeeming factors too.

@Inches_to_cm I like that you've included different perceptions because it does vary for many. Assuming you are going by the overall average of 5'9, I would say 6'0 is tall and 6'3 is very tall.
Tomi said on 12/Jan/21
Hey Rob, I have recently measured myself countless amount of times at boots with their digital stadiometer, majority of the time I get measure 1.8m, however sometimes I get 1.79m. Which should I choose?
Editor Rob
Could be time of day difference or you are hovering between the 179-80 range and sometimes closer to 180 than 179.

Claim what you feel comfortable saying.
Canson said on 12/Jan/21
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 10/Jan/21
@Canson why you lumping me and Viper in with 6’4+ guys? Also I know you hate him but isn’t Willes my height range too?
@Christian maybe you pay less attention to posture when facing away from the wall or subconsciously bust a gut when facing it

@Chaos Control: I wasn’t lumping you and Viper in. More or less going tallest to shortest. If anything, it would be the ones I mentioned before then you, Viper, etc. correct on the other name you mentioned but he’s no longer here. However he would be in that category too in your height range
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Jan/21
@G Suave
A typical 6'6" guy is expected to have a 6'1.25" eye level, and a 6'7" guy 6'2.25"
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Jan/21
@Chaos
I can assure you that I don't bust a gut whenever I'm measuring my height. But the discrepancy between facing foward and backward is quite small, like 3mm tops, so I don't think it should be a big deal.

@vastly
That's about right, because I'm in that height range as well and mine's 24.8cm and it's very proportionate and average looking.
Yharnamman said on 12/Jan/21
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Regarding the 6'10.25" guy, yes the guy might be completely bluffing or giving himself a few inches. Believe it or not, I've seen people in the insanely tall range (6'6"-6'8") claim to be taller than they are. I always remember I was talking to this Native American kid in high school, I suggested hes 6'6" but then he said "no I'm 6'8". Of course I didn't believe it but he likely eventually found out thats not the case.
slim 6'1 said on 12/Jan/21
Bigger doesn’t equal better, flat 5’10” is pretty average but is one of the best heights to be
Tomi said on 11/Jan/21
Hey! Why do some people call someone who is 5’11 tall when 5’11 doesn’t tower over 5’9-5’10 dudes, if anything a 5’11 would blend in quite nicely in a group of average height guys?
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 11/Jan/21
United States: 5'9.5" / 177 cm
United Kingdom: 5'10" / 178 cm
France: 5'10.5" / 179 cm
Germany: 5'11" / 180 cm
Australia: 5'10.5" / 179 cm
Canada: 5'10.5" / 179 cm (not sure about this one..)
Spain: 5'9.5" / 176 cm
Italy: 5'8.5" / 174 cm
South Korea: 5'9" / 176 cm
India: 5'8.5" / 174 cm
Turkey: 5'9.5" / 176 cm
China - Beijing: 5'9.5" / 177 cm
Philippines: 5'5" / 165 cm
Japan: 5'8" / 172 cm
Hong Kong: 5'9" / 175 cm
United Arab Emirates: 5'8.5" / 174 cm

Thoughts on these figures and the others on the wikipedia link? Rounded to the nearest half inch
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 11/Jan/21
Hi, what are your thoughts on the averages for 19 year olds listed here? Click Here

It seems like you need to be around 5ft 11 to be a comfortable height in most western countries
Solid 5'11 said on 11/Jan/21
@Inches_to_cm-
Thats true for white population. For whole population the average is 5'8.5- 5'11. strong 5'11 is above average definitely, 6'0 is kinda tall. Very tall- 6'3 and above
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Jan/21
@Mia
You'd be pretty much considered tall everywhere (except for maybe Netherlands and a few other countries and regions), but that's only assuming you're actually a woman and 5'8.25", lol.
181guy said on 11/Jan/21
@Rob Is it possible to measure a few mms taller on lazy days? I sometimes feel slightly taller too but I think its just my mind or something.
Editor Rob
yeah, some days your spine will be thankful for a bit of laziness, and as a result you might find a slightly higher measurement.
G Suave said on 11/Jan/21
@Christian @181guy Funny enough 6’0+ tall women are more common on dating apps, I’ve even seen a couple 6’4 women on dating apps (they seemed legit). 5’10/5’11+ seems to be common for girls on dating app at least more common than real life for some reason. Because I’ve only met/seen a handful of 6’0+ women in real life. But it’s interesting, I guess these women find it harder to date in real life; so it brings them to the dating apps. Most of them are seeking taller men as well, so that could be part of it.
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 11/Jan/21
Does anyone else get particularly annoyed when someone is 1 inch taller than them when opposed to 2-3+?
Johnny Cash said on 11/Jan/21
Hey Rob how much does voice affect your height perception?
my voice is very deep, say im 5’11 next to a 6 feet guy with high voice would i be perceived taller?
Editor Rob
I believe there is something to the perception of size and vocal range.

If you think about it - longer vocal chords (of taller gentlemen) can produce lower voices.
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 11/Jan/21
Here's one for you guys: would you rather be 7ft tall with no lifespan consequences or 5ft 6/7?
Canson said on 11/Jan/21
@Christian: yea Tarinator may have been joking. I saw the same emoji from Rob though lol
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Jan/21
@Chaos
How big is your head exactly? Mine's 9.75", and that's either average for my height, or maybe a hair below average.
181guy said on 11/Jan/21
@Christian 6'5 3/8" it's not very rare if you live in a city but it's rare. I live in a city but it's not often I see females around my height or taller than me. I think it's quite rare to see guys your height as you are in the 99th percentile, you will be taller than everyone lol, you're a big guy. Even a 6'3 guy is considered standout in crowds but I think more 6'4.
vastlybetter566 said on 11/Jan/21
Christian, a 10 inch head at 5'10 is what I would consider a HUGE head proportionwise.
Hulk said on 11/Jan/21
Hey Rob,
Please do add Delilah Belle Hamlin to the page.
She claimed her height to be 5'7.5" recently-
Click Here

Here's she with Emily Ratajkowski-
Click Here
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 10/Jan/21
@c-mo
While I wouldn't say it's the "perfect" height either, it can be the most practical, meaning it's very balanced and can be applied to almost everything.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 10/Jan/21
@winkler
People have different facial proportions, even if both have the same head size, so you can't base it on size alone.
MaskDeMasque said on 10/Jan/21
I find it strange when average heighted men and women use the term "I'm only". There are quite a few quotes on this site from guys saying "I'm only 5'10" and girls saying "I'm only 5'5". I feel the "I'm only" tag should be used when you are legit short.
Editor Rob
maybe on some occasions the quote is referencing a discussion which makes the 'only' part make more sense.

Like maybe people think the guy is tall and he says "I'm only 5ft 10".
181guy said on 10/Jan/21
@Rob if the average for young white males is nearer 5'10 then maybe you mean 5'9 7/8ths? Not a full 5'10 but quite close?
Editor Rob
well in the UK for instance in 2016 the 25-34 range was 178.4, but the next year it was 177.

This is from the national health survey, but sample size around 400.
Honest5'11" said on 10/Jan/21
@Christian yes, I think tallish in NL is 185-187 cm range, 188 cm + is tall. In most countries in Europe tallish range is 182-184 cm and 185 cm + tall. So at 185 cm I can understand if someone wasn't felling tall in the NL with that height.
181guy said on 10/Jan/21
@Rob How much height is lost 2 hours out of bed?
Editor Rob
you could lose near half of your total shrinkage by 2-2.5 hours
Shazz said on 10/Jan/21
@boyg, yea I claim 6” and people don’t believe me they think I’m 6”1-6”2. Granted I’m a body builder and have extremely long limbs 6”5 arm span and long legs so I give a taller impression due to my proportions

And @proking184, yea I feel the same way. “ only “ 6 foot but usually the tallest in 80% of situations. I mean in shoes I’m 6”1+ Which is the cut off mark for legit tall as in, you’re just physically taller than 90%+ of people whether it’s by .25” or 10” it’s just that mark that few really see truly. You’re functionally 6”2 in foot wear, everyone gets at least 1” -1.25” from normal footwear ( running shoes, sneakers, dress shoes, boots, etc)

Generally, after being awake for a solid bit and walking 20-30 mins to the gym, and lifting genuinely ridiculous weights ( free weight rowing the max weight at the gym, tricep pressing 90 lb dumbbell, shoulder pressing 100 lbs etc), I can measure around that 5”11.75 mark. With some rest etc I jump back up to 5”11.8+

And normally on normal- people days and not following extreme workout routines, I’m generally still 5”11.75+, anywhere from 5”11.75 to 5”11.81 after 6-9 hours of being awake

I’m not counting lazy days where I’m literally just sedentary cause then I can theoretically measure over 6” after being awake if I’m lounging or 5”11 7/8+ easily.
Sorta6 said on 10/Jan/21
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Yeah I'll probably just stick to six or a little over six, something like 183.5cm.
Dan84 said on 10/Jan/21
I intrigued to see what measurements people have compared to me, especially those of a similar height. Here are some of mine to start things off:
Height out of bed: 185.5 cm or so.
Height as a low- 184cm or there abouts.
Wingspan- 186cm
Inseam: generally wear 33 inch inseam
Foot length- bang on 11 inches.
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 10/Jan/21
@c-mo Hey, what would you say is the average among young people 18-35 in Germany? And a common range of heights you see

@taklish guy interesting.

@Heightist9999 that doesn't sound right, are you sure?
G Suave said on 10/Jan/21
@Olympian I am saying that’s because that’s what you told me, so unless you told me the wrong thing that would make sense. You did say you felt above average on campus which was the main point I was trying to get across. 5’10 is above average in most places.
G Suave said on 10/Jan/21
@5’10(178cm) Yes Height and genetics do vary from person to person. Some people just hit the genetic lottery. 5’10 although being decent isn’t my ideal height personally.
G Suave said on 10/Jan/21
@Progking 4.5 inches is the average height level so if a guys 6’6 his eye level is about 6’1 range for 6’7 about 6’2 range.
Canson said on 10/Jan/21
@Winkler91: losing 2.2 cm, while not completely abnormal, is uncommon for someone that size. That said, your normal low should be more 188.7 as around 1.8-1.9 should be the norm. Even at my height or Christian or Vincent Caleb’s we don’t lose but 3/4” up to 2cm tops. Chaos Control is more your size and he only loses 3/4. I wonder if you are just more active and the 188.4 is an extreme low? Meaning your ultimate extreme low is probably 188.1
winkler91 said on 10/Jan/21
I have exactly 4.72nch eye level (12,1cm from middle of my eyes to top of my head).
Is this normal range for a 6'2-6'3 range guy. As far as the perceived height is concerned, is still total normal or the start of being guessed smaller?

A friend of mine is only 4mm taller than me when measured together but he has a visible small head for his height (strong 6'2) with only 4.3inch (11cm) eye level. Thats why based on his eyes I always thought he was around 1-2cm taller but I knew that it would be much closer just looking at his head.

Question:
Does that mean I have already a low eye level or is his just a very high eye level?
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 10/Jan/21
@Canson why you lumping me and Viper in with 6’4+ guys? Also I know you hate him but isn’t Willes my height range too?
@Christian maybe you pay less attention to posture when facing away from the wall or subconsciously bust a gut when facing it
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 10/Jan/21
@Progking
Maybe 4.75" or so. 5" would still be above average. Mine's around 4.75" at 6'5"-6'6" range.
vastlybetter566 said on 10/Jan/21
Rob, proportion-wise, is the average person of any given height always about 7.8-8 heads tall? I remember you saying in a Youtube comment that the average head size for guys in the 6ft5-6ft7 range is about 25cm. Could I apply that rule to other height ranges as well?
Editor Rob
there is a correlation with height and head size...but for females the overall average length is slightly smaller.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 10/Jan/21
@181guy
Seeing women 6'0"+ is quite rare, at least in my neck of the woods, where the average may only be 5'3"-ish. TBH I spot 6'5" guys more commonly than 6'0" women for some reason, even though they're supposedly the 6'5" male equivalent.

@Canson
You also have Tarinator who claims to be 6'10.25" or thereabouts, but I take his claims with a small grain of salt, as his story about his parent's heights and his growth pattern at his age is very hard to believe. Even Rob posted a Pinocchio emoji to his response, implying that he may be lying, lol. But assuming he's really the height he claims to be, then he'd be the tallest current regular here.
Mia (the girl) said on 10/Jan/21
I'm from the United States, toole county Montana. I'm 18. Everyone thinks I'm pretty, have nice long blonde hair and long legs, natural D cup. I got measured 8 hours after waking up from bed, I'm exactly 5'8 1/4 barefoot. Is that tall for a girl in Europe? Would I be tall in California, Florida, New York, Vegas?

I don't how tall my boyfriend is, but he towers over me.
Editor Rob

if you are going to pretend to be from Montana, at least try not posting from a well known British Phone provider 😆
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 10/Jan/21
@Taklish
Obviously, you won't feel that tall at 6'1" around your basketball peers. And I'm kind of in the same boat as you, as my wingspan's no longer than my height, even though my arms aren't short, my shoulders are probably a little narrower than average for a guy my size.

@vastly
Now seeing him recently, my 5'8" friend could have a more 9.7"-ish head than 10". Still quite big for his height. But a 7-head ratio for men isn't than uncommon to see. I see 5'10" guys with 10" heads walking in the steets on occasion. My head/height ratio is around 1:7.9 and it looks very proportional.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 10/Jan/21
@Olympian
A 5'9.5" average also makes sense, but that might be the lowest I'll give.

@tajuan
Yeah, people's preference for wearing pants is a factor as well. Some like to wear all the way up to their waist, and others like them sagged down. I'm probably in the middle. I either typically wear a 36" or 37", though the latter is a rare find. At times, I have to buy 38's and cuff them a bit, as not all manufactuer sizes are equal, much like shirt or shoe size.
Glitch said on 10/Jan/21
@winkler91

How old are you?
Inches_to_cm said on 10/Jan/21
This is just my perception of what people in the UK think, nothing factual.
Inches_to_cm said on 10/Jan/21
Height perceptions in different countries....I'll start with my idea of what it's like in the UK as a 20-something mixed race (Indian and White) male (I have lived in London and the South-East my entire life except for a few years in India).

Male

5'7 and under- Short
5'8: Short/Below Average/some might say average
5'9-5'11: Average
6'0: Above average/some might say average or tall
6'1-6'3: Tall
6'4 and above: Very tall

Female

Under 5'3: Short
5'3: Short/Below Average
5'4-5'6: Average
5'7: Above average/Some might say average or tall
5'8-5'10: Tall
5'11 and above: Very tall
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 10/Jan/21
My head seems pretty average, my 5’5.5 grandfather comes up to halfway between my lips and chin

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