General Height

Please use this page as a 'free for all' forum to talk about height in general. Stuff like average heights in countries, how height affects your job and how people perceive height etc or any suggestions for new heights or height quotes you find for stars not already added to the site. If you want to request a height to be added, please use the Height Request page.

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cmillzz said on 24/Aug/19
@C-mo
The only person who was actually insulting you was Connor. He was out of line and probably should get at least a temporary ban. Other than him though, I don’t see how anyone else is trying to belittle you or put you down. You kinda do seem insecure about your height though, which I don’t really understand.
Jdubbz said on 23/Aug/19
@paul97:

To feel tall but not stand out too much, I’d say the ideal height is around 186cm. So 3-4” above average.
Jdubbz said on 23/Aug/19
@paul97:

To feel tall but not stand out too much, I’d say the ideal height is around 186cm.
Jdubbz said on 23/Aug/19
@Ellis: yeah my mom is 5’2-5’3 so a good 15” shorter than me. She wasn’t stepping on a stool or anything and used a horizontal softcover book. Definitely possible she misread the mark or got the angle wrong. I did have an endocrinologist consultation earlier this month (thyroid issues) and an approx 6’0 male nurse measured me at 198cm during an early afternoon appointment. I’d trust the measurement done by a 6’0 guy with a stadiometer over one done by a 5’2.5 woman with a soft book, plus it’s more in line with my actual home measurements. But yea I’m never letting my folks measure me again 😅
Jiggity said on 23/Aug/19
@pov That's funny I'm 6' throughout the day and most people call me tall. I don't feel short at all, and many people would consider 6'-6'2 a tall height. Only time I feel short is when I play men's league with my friends who are between 6'4-6'8. I'd even consider 5'11 as somewhat tall.
Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Ajax509: But i have to respect Greg and Bobby’s opinions as they are entitled to them. They may feel strongly about certain things due to some of the comments being made around them on this page though. I also respect yours
Myself said on 23/Aug/19
@Canson
Yeah I agree that it may draw unwanted attention...i still have the thought that between 196-198 would be ideal for me. But there's no real point in thinking about it since i'm probably 100% done growing now. I'd like to gain another random 1/8" though...just the last hope left. I'm doing some lower body and spinal stretches lately; maybe it could slightly straighten my lumbar scoliosis...I believe that if I didn't have it I would've been at least 193+ cm at the lowest (maybe up to 1 cm gain, but idk). It's not a very big curve (nobody notices it), but it's still there, and it makes my hips slightly uneven.
Luca said on 23/Aug/19
@K.A.188 As I told you some time ago, I am exactly 1 cm taller than u... Since I'm Italian too, and I noticed that you had the same curiosity, what's your guess on Mario balotelli?Up to you what's his height in relation to ours?
Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Christian: I think when I had longer hair it did. I only figured it out because I grew it out recently before cutting again and same thing.
Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Greg: unfortunately there are some here too that can say anything and get away with it.
ajax509 said on 23/Aug/19
178cm average
184-186 tallish
= near 2.5 inches
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Paul97 said on 22/Aug/19
What would you guys say was, in terms of the number of inches above average, the ideal height for feeling tall but at the same time not too tall or standing out too much?
ajax509 said on 23/Aug/19
@puppy bobo My fingers were faster on the keyboard than me reading. You're absolutly right with the percentiles and your conclusion!!
I was simply a bit puzzled about the inches translation.
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ajax509 said on 22/Aug/19
@puppy bobo
Are you stupid? First of all, the difference betweeten 5'11", 6' and 6'1" always remains 1 inch = 2.54 centimetres! Second, the jump from the 5'11" percentile to the 6' is way smaller than from 6' to 6'1", check Laplace-Gauss on Wiki Click Here

puppy bobo said on 22/Aug/19
I see alot of people making meaningful distinction betwwen 6' and 6'1 but I beg to differ! 6' is 183cm and 6'1 is 185cm. that's only 2cm difference, which is bigger than that between 5'11 (180cm) and 6'.

if we assume the average height of young males in the US and UK is 177cm which is kinda correct, then according to CDC:

Click Here

5'11 - 67th percentile
6' - 81st percentile
6'1 - 88th percentile

way bigger gap between 5'11 and 6' than 6' and 6'1!

I think 6' is underrated in people's minds because so many 5'10 and 5'11 guys fraud their height in order to meet that magic number, but a legit 6' guy is actually taller thank you think.
Zeke said on 23/Aug/19
I always thought about this: even if you wear shoes that give you almost an inch of in height, wouldn’t people really not notice? Considering that most shoes in general happen to give roughly the same boost, it can be stated that relatively speaking, you probably wouldn’t look that much shorter or taller in a group of people who are all wearing shoes (heels being the exception, of course, let’s assume everybody’s wearing sneakers).
Johan 185 cm said on 23/Aug/19
puppy bobo said on 22/Aug/19
I see alot of people making meaningful distinction betwwen 6' and 6'1 but I beg to differ! 6' is 183cm and 6'1 is 185cm. that's only 2cm difference, which is bigger than that between 5'11 (180cm) and 6'.

if we assume the average height of young males in the US and UK is 177cm which is kinda correct, then according to CDC:

Click Here

5'11 - 67th percentile
6' - 81st percentile
6'1 - 88th percentile

way bigger gap between 5'11 and 6' than 6' and 6'1!

I think 6' is underrated in people's minds because so many 5'10 and 5'11 guys fraud their height in order to meet that magic number, but a legit 6' guy is actually taller thank you think.

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Well that shows as expected there is a massive jump going from 5'10" to 6'.

Interesting to see that 175 cm is only the 40.9 percentile. So under average while 178 cm is 57.5 percentile.

Even just 5'11" flat is 69.8 percentile. 180.34 cm to be exact. So a massive jump from 5'9" to 5'11".

However a 181-182 cm is also a 5'11" range guy and they come in at 77.6 percentile so the gap isn't that big since 183 cm is 81.6 percentile.

185 cm is 88.1 percentile but a 187 cm guy is 92.9 percentile and close to what many consider Strong tall.

As i thought myself around 189 cm is when you cross into that range where you are at all times considered tall. Its in the 95th and also backing up another of my assumptions that its 6'6" that starts real uncommon heights. (198 cm).

All I take from this is that 5'10-6' is a bridge between average and tall which many here already know i think and that around 6'3" you get into very tall range. Nice to have stats that support own beliefs.
Bobby 5ft 10in said on 23/Aug/19
@puppy bobo

This reminds me of an ideal height survey which I read several years ago. The consensus was that 6'1 was considered the perfect height for a man, with 6'2 not falling far behind, however, the jump to 6'3 was drastic insofar as undesirability went. What was also interesting was that 5'10 was much more appealing than 5'9 despite it being only an inch but that 5'11 was less so, if I recall. It was a weird survey.
cmillzz said on 22/Aug/19
ok 176cm is in the same category with 140cm and is a midget and 183cm is in the same category as 220cm and a giant . happy everybody ? :D be happy

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lol
cmillzz said on 22/Aug/19
@Greg
I was just correcting you. I’m sure if I referred to you as 5’9, you’d correct me too.
pov said on 22/Aug/19
I dont think people realise how small an inch actually is. For example i’m two inches taller than my cousin, but until we both measured we both thought I was only an inch taller. That’s why I don’t feel 6 foot as being tall. Most 5”9 (average) guys are slightly over my eyebrows I don’t feel that makes me tall. I feel you need to be atleast 5 inches over average to be considered “tall”. I think 6”2 is the start of tall, thats when people start referring to you as the “tall guy”. At 6”0.5 no one really calls me tall and I don’t feel it either.
Goel175cm said on 22/Aug/19
@c-mo
Why are you thinking about the average young European male height?
U are from turkey ri8? So you have got genes from Turkey
In Iran and Turkey , for age 18-30, the average is definitely no more than 5’9 or 175cm. The average 175cm has been proven by many sites. So At 176cm at night you are actually a bit above average for Turkey and Iran.
So you are actually from Western Asia.
The average 178cm at night for Europe is for those who belong to European ethnic background.
So you are not under average by 2cm. Intact you are 1cm above average for your country.
Waiting for your reply.
Ellis said on 22/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: Did your mother really measure you at only 6'4.25?, and you routinely get 6'5.5-75 at a low, that is pretty strange, but I think I might know why. I let my mom take my height once, she couldn't read the number, she took a picture at a really bad angle and it said 78 inches, bear in mind that I'm a foot and a couple inches taller than her. Since my dad and brother are closer in height I let them take it, even my dad at 6'3 has problems taking my height, since my brother is taller than my dad he can accurately take it.
Canson said on 22/Aug/19
@Myself: I would hate to duck all the time and looking at how hard it is at 6’4” to build muscle I surely wouldn’t want 2-3” more. It also just draws unwanted attention and hard fits on planes vehicles even chairs
Greg said on 22/Aug/19
@C-mo that’s Ajax for you he hits everybody in the face or at least tries too with his short reach, but at the end of the day what goes around comes around he will soon realize that it will come back and hit him in the face.
Greg said on 22/Aug/19
@Christian I think you’re not understand what I am trying to say so this is going to be my last response to you about this topic. I never said this has anything to do with the government and I know this website isn’t government funded lmao. However, if you think the Government is responsible for our freedom then you have another thing or two to think about. Anybody is free to post what they want hear as long as it’s not threatening or offensive and should mainly correlate to height as it is a height forum. Gee Rob isn’t British no way?! I know Glasgow was in Britain? I’ve been lied to my entire life I blame Australian Big G and his Girlfriend Big Roberta who’s a Spanish Immigrant from the Spanish part of Scotland.
Greg said on 22/Aug/19
@puppy bobo 177cm isn’t the Young average, wth lol. Average is more 175-176 cm maybe at a push. 5’11 is like 72nd percentile or something even 5’10.5 is like 67-68th percentile but each calculator will tell you something different. 6’0 is around 83rd and 6’1 most likely like 85-86th.
K.A 188 ! said on 22/Aug/19
@EVERYONE.....
Start of tall is 182 in my opinion
Dom 184cm said on 22/Aug/19
In my opinion 5'11, 6'0, and 6'1 are in a limbo position. You're not tall, you're not short, but you're not average either.

6'2 is when a guy begins as tall in the eyes of others in my opinion.

Been told I am tall by people but I don't see it. Women have told me in different contexts (dating, friends, strangers, co-workers, peers), but it's something I don't see. I'm open to the idea that I have a body image problem.

I told a few people in one of my high school English classes that I felt short and they were shocked and they said I was tall. Keep in mind I'm in a nice shoe and hitting 6'1.

Meanwhile, there were two football players in there who stood 6'3+. So yes, compared to those guys I am not tall. And a guy in there I became friends with was 6'2 barefoot because I asked him and he told me.

My plan is to buy insoles and try them out to hit 6'2 in a nice shoe.
K.A 188 ! said on 22/Aug/19
@C-MO
No one is trying to belittle you here on celebheights if anything you are the one projecting your insecurities unto other poster to be honest....
K.A 188 ! said on 22/Aug/19
@C-MO
No one is trying to belittle you here on celebheights if anything you are the one projecting your insecurities unto other poster to be honest....
QM6'1QM said on 22/Aug/19
Johan 185 cm said on 21/Aug/19

Literally my opinion about this comment.
Paul97 said on 22/Aug/19
What would you guys say was, in terms of the number of inches above average, the ideal height for feeling tall but at the same time not too tall or standing out too much?
ajax509 said on 22/Aug/19
IMO ideal would be at 50% (in my gender and age group). For Germany, that would be 178.9cm in the afternoon, so I fall short of by 1.7cm. Personally, I prefer "medium", some like "tallish" and many on CH - for whatever reason - "tall" or "very tall".
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john1 said on 20/Aug/19
Obviously the average height varies depending on things like the age group as well as the area you live in, so it would be interesting to hear what your guys 'ideal' percentile for height would be.
ajax509 said on 22/Aug/19
@Greg When have you ever made constructive comments? Bobby and 'little Greg' are only tolerated here, in school they call it inclusion.
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Greg said on 20/Aug/19
@Canson you’ve never had any issue with him but me and tons of others have he just isn’t trolling you. I think the kid might seriously be special needs not that there’s anything wrong with such but that would explain his irrationality. That being said ever since day 1 there’s been arguments here and will continue always because that’s just how it is unfortunately.
guythinkingaboutheight said on 22/Aug/19
@puppy bobo The difference between 6' and 6'1 is exactly the same as between 5'11 and 6', it's 2.54 cm (one inch); 5'11 is 180.34cm, 6' is 182.88cm, and 6'1 is 185.42cm.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 22/Aug/19
@Canson
Sorry, I'm confused. Did hair affect your measurement or not?
puppy bobo said on 22/Aug/19
I see alot of people making meaningful distinction betwwen 6' and 6'1 but I beg to differ! 6' is 183cm and 6'1 is 185cm. that's only 2cm difference, which is bigger than that between 5'11 (180cm) and 6'.

if we assume the average height of young males in the US and UK is 177cm which is kinda correct, then according to CDC:

Click Here

5'11 - 67th percentile
6' - 81st percentile
6'1 - 88th percentile

way bigger gap between 5'11 and 6' than 6' and 6'1!

I think 6' is underrated in people's minds because so many 5'10 and 5'11 guys fraud their height in order to meet that magic number, but a legit 6' guy is actually taller thank you think.
Littlelee5ft6 said on 21/Aug/19
No c-mo this is the first comment I've seen from you or noticed and I didn't know your height so I certainly didn't say anything below 177cm is heading towards short just because you were slightly under this mark. I said it because it's true though I'd say you'd have to be 3 inches below the average height of 5ft 9 to be considered short so 5ft 6 is short the same as 6 foot (3 inches above average) is the start of tall whereas 5ft 11 isn't seen as tall by many and 5ft 6 for a woman isn't seen as tall but 5ft 7 can be
Sakz said on 21/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm I think you just don't feel tall I used to feel the same. It wasn't until I realised how many people I edged out that I truly understood how tall I actually am. It's not about how many people you tower but rather how many you're taller than, and at 6'0 you're not going to tower people who are average height.
Myself said on 21/Aug/19
@Canson
Well yeah, but I just don't know if that's really such a huge issue...I guess you just get used to it.
Chris brady said on 21/Aug/19
@ importer your middle eye level is 5-7.4 and you are about 5-11.75? I would have thought you would be an even six foot.
Johan 185 cm said on 21/Aug/19
c-mo said on 19/Aug/19
@Johan 185 cm

172cm and 175cm are definitely different because as I said 172cm is 5-6cm below average while 175cm is only 2-3cm below average and is in the average range

and I am 176cm at night and one of my friends is 184cm and I dont look short next to him

even my 189cm friend doesnt tower over me or anything and he even thought I am 180cm in the beginning until I corrected him

and yes I am sure my 184cm friend is 184cm . I measured him 3 times and he claimed 184cm before I measured him

I somehow have the feeling that you guys are trolling me

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I just am trying to understand the logic in your statements.

175cm is average you say but 172 cm starts short? 183 cm is above average?

For instance in the UK, Rob has said average is 175-176cm, so short starts around 170 cm. Solid 2 inches gap. Anything between that 171-174 is under average, 177-180cm would be above average.

We however are talking about Europe where 178 cm is more average overall so thats 2cm more on each bracket at least. I view things objectively and am actually curious how you come to these outcomes.

A 3 inch gap while not huge is a noticeable difference. Being eyelevel with someones mouth is far different than their nose for instance.

If your other friend is legit 189 cm then he borderline towers you, he can look clear over your head?? Its the same as you standing with a 5'4" person.
ajax509 said on 21/Aug/19
@Jdubzz
Right, you measured yourself at 6ft 5.75-5 and your mother got 6ft 4.25? That's quite a difference! You might be able to post a measurement video?
ajax509 said on 21/Aug/19
@Bobby and Greg
Dom 184cm was joking. Also he wrote his eye-level is at most people's forehead, so he clearly states he's taller than average.
ajax509 said on 21/Aug/19
@c-mo you're a decent enough poster, I truly hope you'll stay.
Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 20/Aug/19
@Bego
184 may not be tall for you since you live in one of those Dinaric countries. But globally and even in most European countries, it's considered tall.

@Greg
But this site has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment. 1st Amendment only protects your speech from the government. First, this site isn't funded or operated by the government. It's privately owned, just like Youtube, Google etc. Second, Rob isn't American, he's British. No such thing as 1st Amendment in Britain. Maybe there's a British equivalent to it though.
Editor Rob
There are some limits, people at times do step over and need a break for their own sake.
avi said on 20/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm said on 19/Aug/19

Yes 6'0 isn't that tall but most of time you will feel solidly above average. So it's still a decently large height. I am maybe 1.5 cm less than you at night so basically weak 6'0 I consider myself I do notice alot of guys are barely above my eyebrows so at 6'0ish I would think most guys would be a bit below your mid forehead. Sometimes you think they are taller than they are if you look in mirror you will see different.

The guys who are taller than me I normally am in the middle of their forehead. Rarely will someone tower me (where I'm under their eyebrows) that would be a strong 6'4 guy.

@Greg

Yeah 6'0 is considered tall maybe weak tall but I think the point guys like me or Dom are making is that it's not that tall or where you'd feel solid tall.
To me solid tall is 6'1 maybe 6'1.5.

I guess sometimes I focus on the taller people and can get caught up in them lol

And yes I'm in that range (weak 6'0) so to me 6'4 would be very tall.
6'3 I'm still above the eyebrows by almost an inch in most cases so no big deal
At this point I don't care about comparing to people too tall.
To me 6'3 is too gawky of a height but it bothers me a bit when I see people 6'1 to 6'2ish as 6'1-6'2 range is where I want to be.
And not sure where you live but I'm in an area with maybe 60-70k population and some more affluent areas around me so I'm getting a large diverse group here so me seeing 6'2-6'5 is going to be more common.
If I go to a mall I will definitely see some 6'2-6'4 people for sure. Even one or 2 6'5-6'6 would be expected.

yeah thanks man you're a cool poster too .
People here get too wound up at times. We all need to calm down and respect other's opinions. :)
See ya around
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
But it doesn't mean that I live in the downtown area or anything like that. I live in a suburb, that's why I don't often encounter as many people as I would If I'd lived downtown. Btw, didn't you mention before that you live in a college town or something like that? That could be the reason why the average is taller and you encounter more tall people.
Greg said on 20/Aug/19
@Canson you’ve never had any issue with him but me and tons of others have he just isn’t trolling you. I think the kid might seriously be special needs not that there’s anything wrong with such but that would explain his irrationality. That being said ever since day 1 there’s been arguments here and will continue always because that’s just how it is unfortunately.
Greg said on 20/Aug/19
@Ajax and does that mean you’re demoted back to primary school?
@Bobby he might be just as bad if not worse than the Australian Big G, which makes me wonder since his maths is 2 cms off he is most likely 175 cm or 5’9 Yeah Ajax around 5’9 is a fair claim for you 👍
Dom 184cm said on 20/Aug/19
@Greg

I'm not eye level with most men. I am at forehead level. I'm either looking at a guys forehead or just over his head.

I don't tower over people unless they're less than 5'8. 6'1 in a nice shoe I am comfortably taller than most men but not towering over them.

184 is upper average out here. 190 is where it really gets real.
Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Christian: I confirmed what I suspected before about my hair being shorter being why I measured differently. I used to get around 6’4.5 at a low when I first began on the site and that was likely why. It’s possible I did lose maybe 1/8” max as even when I gradually cut it shorter I was only 6’4 3/8 and now I’m barely over 6’4.25. However that is all different under a stadio as a doctor measured me 6’4 3/8 on that a few years back looking at a physical from back then
Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Ellis: 6’4 is the cutoff on the low end or high end? I disagree on both. Low end 6’3” flat 6’6 high end. 6’6.5 or maybe 2M is where you hit the extreme category
Jdubbz said on 20/Aug/19
@Myself: haha I was doubting myself for a couple of days, but stadiometers, aerosol cans, mirrors, and tape measures don’t lie.

My area is definitely strange, but yours sounds like it is as well based on how you describe it. Not seeing anyone above 194 at a shopping center is really hard for me to imagine. Then again you’ve said that people guess you at 2 meters fairly often, which is pretty crazy for a 192cm range guy. I guess your average really is on the shorter side if people overestimate you that much. What would you say the average is in your area?
Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Christian: other than the Guys I hang out with currently that are taller, I rarely see someone my height. I’m in the DC suburbs though in Virginia. Even when I go into city, I see someone taller once in a while probably on average 30% of the time. Otherwise I see someone my height probably 60% of the time. My height meaning a solid 6’4” or over as I would have a more difficult time gauging a solid 6’4” or 6’4 1/8” from myself
Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: I think a solid 6’3” at a low is very tall
Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Dom184: me being a 193-194 guy, 6’0” is tall
Sakz said on 20/Aug/19
@Canson I agree with that. A lot of people have stated they don't believe 6'0 is tall, but I understand everyone has different opinions and experiences. It's what makes height an interesting topic and I think that should be embraced.
QM6'1QM said on 20/Aug/19
Dom 184cm said on 19/Aug/19

At least 75% of guys noticeable shorter than 6'/ 183 cm, i'm about 3 cms taller (185.7-8 cm) and must say: 6ft is a tall, especially in the US and all around the world for men.
I don't know, it was my 16yrs old height and i felt and saw me tall (especially beyond the edge of my room), lol.
Your comment sounds a little bit of goofy.
john1 said on 20/Aug/19
Obviously the average height varies depending on things like the age group as well as the area you live in, so it would be interesting to hear what your guys 'ideal' percentile for height would be.
Bobby 178cm said on 20/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm

So, you're stating for the record that you are eye level with the top of people's foreheads or looking at the top of their heads but you think you're not tall? I don't know about that. You're almost 6'1. I'd love to be 184cm.
c-mo said on 20/Aug/19
ajax509

its very low from you to hit me in the face that I repeat myself often . I also already often said that I repeat myself often when I repeat myself

btw. that study is 12 years old :D which doesnt mean that it doesnt have any legitimacy but people most likely grew a bit since then

look at some of the average for 18 - 39 year olds (which matters the most to me ) in big cities . some are 5'11.5 and even 6'0 . Hamburg even 6'1 . and overall 5'11 which is what I was saying from the beginning . and yes it seems overall for whole germany young men average at 178.9 in that study . today it is closer to 180cm
ajax509 said on 20/Aug/19
@Bobby I'm so proud of you! You're promoted to the next grade, junior high.
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Bobby 178cm said on 19/Aug/19
@C-Mo

You misunderstood my statement entirely. Out of the two: 177 and 175, which one is closest to 180? It's 177, right? That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that compared to 175 and 180, that 177 is much closer to 180. I know that mathematically the difference is only 2cm.
Myself said on 20/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
Maybe your mother's measurement (of you) was actually right and you're just 6'4.25!
You probably only grew in your head, each time unconsciously angling the can higher and higher until you became fully satisfied with the result! Maybe the cause was Glenn's curse and only Rob will be able to open your eyes to the reality of your shortness!
Jk hahah

But on a serious note, It's really strange...how can the average possibly differ THAT much from your place to mine? I know it's possible of course, but it's not like it's the Netherlands!
I rarely see someone above 6'1; usually I feel like the tallest guy I encounter is someone in 6'2 maybe 6'3 range. When I go to the shopping center or to the waterfront though, out of many people I may see like a couple or 3 max (if I've been walking for a long time) guys between 189 and 194, but still pretty much never someone more than 1 inch taller.
Bego said on 20/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm 190cm is true start of tall height. Thats a legit tall height with a good definition of tallness. 184cm is just tallish, not above avg and not tall just something in between. I have never considered my self tall, but i can be considered big especially with muscules on, thats a thing. And when you say most, elaborate it, most can be anywhere from 55% to 90%.
ajax509 said on 20/Aug/19
Yeah, by the time of his death, his body was measured 168.5cm. French army soldiers averaged at 164cm by then. So quite a myth!
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Miss Sandy Cowell said on 19/Aug/19
....but Napoleon wasn't even that short for his day!
Greg said on 20/Aug/19
@Dom 184 that’s a lie you’re not eye level with most Men unless you’re living in holland or something so either you’re lying or you need to check your height again 184 is 85th percentile in America try again buddy.

@c-mo don’t go please bb I’ll buy you a weiner schnitzel and a apfel strudel if you stay 😉.
Greg said on 20/Aug/19
@cmillzz Well I don’t remember how tall you are so idrc.
Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Myself: 6’6-6’7 is too tall for Me. Constantly hitting doorways etc
ajax509 said on 20/Aug/19
@Greg Praise the Lord, your limited vocabulary reminds of a mexican immigrant. In real life, you'd need an even bigger reach advantage to out run me nerf. 🔫 After I'm done with you, 'little Greg' can join the exclusive 0ft 0in club! Watch out 👀, 'Big G' 🗽 is bouncer in front of the 'Manlet Hell' 🔥, you know he's an expert for shoe lifts. ;) Then again, next to G himself, you'd probably still pull of your hilarious 5ft 11 claim. 📏🤣🤣🤣
#SovietsInTexas #ManletsInHell💪🔥
ajax509 said on 20/Aug/19
@Bobby How do you measure outseam, do you mean navel height? If so, you'd pretty much pressed the measuring device into your crotch - I hope you still have the same pitch!

E.g., mine is 84 and 108cm respectively.
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Bobby 178cm said on 18/Aug/19
@ajax509

I need leg lengthening surgery? LOL. What's wrong with you? My legs are already quite long for my height. My inseam is 34 inches and my outer seam is 41 inches long.
Ellis said on 19/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: That is actually really cool to think about, and yeah I meant what you said. I agree the cutoff for very tall is 6'4.
@Christian: That's interesting.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Aug/19
@Canson
I agree, words like "average" and "tall" are all relative. If I was in the NBA, I'd be considered average heighted, but I wouldn't get upset over it at all. I have nothing against Connor, but he shouldn't have gotten uptight about being called above average.
cmillzz said on 19/Aug/19
@Greg
I’m comfortably taller than 5’8, dude.
Dom 184cm said on 19/Aug/19
An anecdote to add to the 6'0 debate.

I am a measured strong 6ft barefoot at the doctor's office at 4:00 the afternoon. I am a 20 year old American man. 184cm barefoot for my friends outside the states.

I am at eye level with most guys foreheads or the top of their head.

6'0 is NOT tall. Trust a 6'0 guy.
c-mo said on 19/Aug/19
@Johan 185 cm

172cm and 175cm are definitely different because as I said 172cm is 5-6cm below average while 175cm is only 2-3cm below average and is in the average range

and I am 176cm at night and one of my friends is 184cm and I dont look short next to him

even my 189cm friend doesnt tower over me or anything and he even thought I am 180cm in the beginning until I corrected him

and yes I am sure my 184cm friend is 184cm . I measured him 3 times and he claimed 184cm before I measured him

I somehow have the feeling that you guys are trolling me


I really dont know whats going on . only because I said 6'0 is above average and not tall imo and only because I said average height for europe is 5'10 which IS the truth everybody seems offended and now we have a bunch of guys here acting like vulvultures and try to discredit me and my height and try to put me down

ok 176cm is in the same category with 140cm and is a midget and 183cm is in the same category as 220cm and a giant . happy everybody ? :D be happy
cmillzz said on 19/Aug/19
@LittleLee
There has to be a cut-off somewhere (even though I disagree with C-mo that 172cm is the start of short). Think of it like the age of majority, there has to be a cut-off for that too. Sure, 17 and 18 are only one year apart, but in the eyes of the law there is a big difference between those ages in that a 17 year old is a minor and an 18 year old is an adult.
Totigno said on 19/Aug/19
178cm or 175cm is the same height than 165cm
well i don't think this way but some taller guys and heightist girls do, anything below 180cm

I heard it!!
Jdubbz said on 19/Aug/19
@Christian: that’s shocking to me as I assumed there would be a lot of very tall men in a place like LA. I have a cm on you and if I go anywhere remotely populated it’s not that uncommon to find guys who are my height. As for 6’3.5” being the start of very tall in my area, I can agree since it’s close enough to 6’4. Anything under that though (even 6’3.25) id call tall rather than very tall..
Bobby 178cm said on 19/Aug/19
@C-Mo

You misunderstood my statement entirely. Out of the two: 177 and 175, which one is closest to 180? It's 177, right? That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that compared to 175 and 180, that 177 is much closer to 180. I know that mathematically the difference is only 2cm.
Greg said on 19/Aug/19
@c-mo sorry bro I respect your opinion but we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one because I think you’re over estimating the average a bit. You can make an argument for 5’9.5-5’10 for the Younger generation as it’s a shade higher than the U.S avg but 5’11 average no way even in Germany I get it you have been living there your entire life but outside of the Netherlands or Dinarc Alps/ perhaps Bosnia and Norway. Those stats aren’t measured more likely surveyed and or shoe measurements out of bed. Don’t believe most “data” that has been gathered it’s usually exaggerated.

@Christian You missed the point, I didn’t say you could post anything here. I know the TOS and Rob as the site master approves what goes and doesn’t here. However, the first amendment should and does apply here as long as you are polite and respectful here, and try to be on the topic of height or at least close. I do believe many posters are going out of line here like ajax and guest66 that are borderline harassing posters over little nonsense but Rob doesn’t seem to bat an eye after all he’s given guys like Arthur a second chance from the Ban Hammer. Seems to me his trusty golden stadiometer still shines bright though.

@Avi aye what’s going on. well that’s fair because also 6’2 isn’t much taller than you to be fair it’s not that much taller than me but it’s a reasonable amount. I feel like anything that’s perhaps 4-5 inches of margin over your height should be considered very tall for example say you’re 5’11.5-.75 don’t quote me I kind of forgot but say 6’3 range and 6’4 would be considered very tall to you or even a weak 6’4. It’s also standout at least in US/UK and a few other countries. 6’2 isn’t really common here I mean I’m sure if you walk around a busy mall or town center you’ll find a few 6’2 guys but truthfully not that many. Outside of my friend group I really don’t know that many 6’2 guys thus it makes me come to the conclusion it’s pretty tall at around 93rd percentile. I agree though we manage to compromise but that’s because you’re a chill poster and one of the few people here that doesn’t spew bs and try to wind people up by making up illogical random facts 👌.
K.A 188 ! said on 19/Aug/19
@LUCA
My absolute lowest ever measured was 187.6 after 8 hours of work.
But usually during the day i measure 188.4
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Aug/19
@Bego
Wealth certainly is linked to tallness to some degree. It's not even up for debate. Why do you think that the upper class of a third world or underdeveloped country is always the tallest group? Even in more developed countries like the US, I notice that the wealthy are on average a bit taller than the rest. I'm not the only one who notices it. Just ask any other poster and they'll tell you the same thing. More wealth = better nutrition and healthcare.
ajax509 said on 19/Aug/19
@c-mo We don't have Alzheimer's, it's ok to comment "golden range is 180-184cm", but not once every week! By the way, overall average at 179cm is nonsense.

In Germany overall mean height (men 18-79y/o) is 175.4cm, younger men average 178.9cm. IMO the study Click Here is trustworthy, sample population (N= m/f:19,768) was wide enough.

@c-mo I classify you as a solid 176cm and Bobby flat 177.
185cmJeff said on 19/Aug/19
I am 185cm and I feel that I’m roughly in the 85%-90% I do above average/tall but there’s some situations where I will encounter people taller than me on a daily basis as I live in a city.
Myself said on 19/Aug/19
@Christian
I agree with your classification.

I also saw only like 3-4 max guys very close to or over 2 meters in an entire year. The most recent one was a week ago in a bar; I was sitting reading the newspaper and while finishing my cappuccino I saw this obviously tall aged man from the corner of my eye. When I stood up I realized he was like 4 inches taller! (3.5-4.5" max my estimation)
It was the tallest person I've seen in more than a year.
After seeing him I actually had my first doubts on wanting to be that tall, but at the end of the day I would probably still take it, provided that my proportions remain the same at least. (I'd rather be 6'6-6'7 I think though)
c-mo said on 19/Aug/19
Littlelee5ft6 said on 17/Aug/19
C-mo you see 172 as short but not 173??? Nobody can notice 1cm. Sorry but if 172 is short so is 173cm anything below the UK average of 177cm is heading into short category

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as I said (and I guess you missed my height chart) 172cm is the start of short and 173-174cm is borderline / buffer zone and a bit shortish . a 172cm wont be that short and a 173cm man wont look different much all of a sudden compared to a 172cm man . but there needs to be a cutoff point and that cut off is around 172cm imo . height is a spectrum basically .

a 172cm will look fairly average often and wont stand out as the short guy often . but it is definitely starting to be a bit short

also what you are saying doesnt match with what connor is saying ...hmmmmmmmmmmm ....he says that 5'8 - 5'9 is average and now you are saying that anything below 177cm is heading into short category .

you see guys ? this is when you have people letting their personal issues with other posters (in this case with me) get in their way of judging things objectively

you only say that below 177cm is heading towards short because I am 176cm in the evening . oh I missed it by 1cm right ? yeah seems legit . you are just offended because I say 172cm is short but my height is not so you see the need to "put me in my place" which is also most likely because you feel attacked about your own height by me

this is ridiculous


@Rob

if this nonsense doesnt stop and if people here dont stop to be offensive towards me for no reason then I will quit posting here
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Aug/19
@Canson
How often do you see someone your height or taller? I know it depends on how populated a city is, and also how often you go outdoors. I'm in the LA metro area, so I see at least one person taller than me every week on average, but if I lived in a more rural place, it can probably go a month or two.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 19/Aug/19
....but Napoleon wasn't even that short for his day!
Jdubbz said on 18/Aug/19
@Canson: that hasn't been my experience at all, but judging from what other posters have said here it's possible that there's just an unusually high concentration of tall guys where I live (city near Dallas TX). I definitely see 6'3+ guys each and every time I go out, and guys my height (I consider guys "my height" to be 6'5 3/8 - 6'6 since it's hard for me to discern cm differences irl), at least once a week, more often than not several times a week. I have no doubt that what I'm seeing is a bit of an anomaly, even I'm shocked how many guys around my height and even taller I see.
Canson said on 18/Aug/19
@Christian: I totally believe that!
Greg said on 18/Aug/19
@Christian @Canson wouldn’t surprise me, I think some doctors might give them out to people even if they aren’t behind in growth I can’t imagine if I had some I would be well over 6’0 even if I did not wish to get into pro sports, it’s interesting to think about.
Bobby 178cm said on 18/Aug/19
@ajax509

I need leg lengthening surgery? LOL. What's wrong with you? My legs are already quite long for my height. My inseam is 34 inches and my outer seam is 41 inches long. I don't get you, I really don't. I think you need a psychiatrist to evaluate you. If Sigmund Freud were still alive, he'd probably conclude you have some unrepressed sexual motivations towards your mother and is the reason for your moronic comments. Also, what the hell does my previous comment have anything to do with what you just said? You're conflating the issue. I think you're very confused. You need help big time.
Greg said on 18/Aug/19
@cmillzz 5’11 is tallish, even a strong 5’10 can be described as tallish what you wouldn’t describe as tall is different then someone else he’ll at a weak 5’11 I’ve gotten referred to as tall or “kind of tall” while it’s not on the same tall as say a 6’1 guy it’s still above the average and with the right proportions you can look seem taller. 5’7 is below average actually closer to your height which is 5’8 if I remembered correctly so unless you think you’re short lol I don’t want to hear it.
Canson said on 18/Aug/19
@Ajax509: I don’t wanna say one height is ideal or not but i am over 6’2” but I wouldn’t be switching being 6’4” for being 5’9” anytime soon. Not saying one is bad and the other is not but I think that both should be accepted by the person
Canson said on 18/Aug/19
@Greg: to be honest, I don’t get why people have those types of arguments and why people get uptight and upset about their height being called average on this forum. We know that 6’0” isn’t average so no need for anyone to be upset about it. If someone called 6’4” average height of course I wouldn’t agree but I probably would just laugh at the same time because it’s false but probably wouldn’t bother with an argument because it’s so laughable
Canson said on 18/Aug/19
5’9” is likely avg not 5’10
Canson said on 18/Aug/19
@Greg: I’ve never had an issue with Ajax509
Johan 185 cm said on 18/Aug/19
c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
@ Johan 185 cm

nah ... 172 - 175cm are not in the same category really . 175cm is only 2-3cm below average for young men and almost bang on average when you include older men too . while 172cm is 5-6cm below average . a 175cm man will look fairly average height while 172cm is a bit short .

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Has to be a cut off point somewhere. Could also argue that 179 cm isn't just average in some countries or that 183 cm is tall and not upper average where I put it.

I put 172 cm and 175cm together because they are imo under average. One comes under my eyes and the other is just over. A 172 cm guy will not feel different next to a 175 cm guy. 2-3 cm is not alot when interacting with people.

I see you said to Connor that 6ft is above average. 183 cm is 8cm taller than a 175cm guy. Even a 176cm guy is short next to a 183 cm.
JD1996 said on 18/Aug/19
I seem to be a little taller lately used to be 199.1 cm for the longest time now I seem to be 200 cm which is a little surprise. Haven’t really said before where I think tall starts but I would say around 6’1” is where people can look pretty tall at times to me. I think very tall starts somewhere between 6’3”-6’4”.
Jdubbz said on 18/Aug/19
@Greg:

I just meant that he overreacted a little bit, not that he wasn’t allowed to say what he did. Also I’m pretty sure he’s British (as is this site) so I’m not sure how the 1st amendment plays into things lol
Connor Simpson said on 18/Aug/19
@Greg Thanks yeah exactly, im glad not the only one who thinks what c-mo said was embarrassing lol 😂
Greg said on 18/Aug/19
@ajax509 Gee you’re creative, I would rather be a yank than a brain dead Nazi who’s not even sure on measurements himself. How can you ask people for their papers if you never learned how to write? 😭 poor little timmy mad he isn’t a legit 5’10, you’re a 5’9.5 guy face the facts you can join the club, maybe with your big boy boots on 🥴. Ask any poster here when have I ever mentioned I drop to 177.9cm, I’m always above 178 and by a good amount my lows around 178.5ish. Case dismissed we are now talking you to Court Big Robs the judge and Big G is the Plantiff, my Lawyer is Josh the case of man (little Ajax) vs height. Stop telling c-mo what to do perhaps in the time you spent trying to control him you could have worked on gaining brain cells to get your facts straight and come across as more smart, mature etc. but you don’t have many to begin with I rest my case sauerkraut.
cmillzz said on 18/Aug/19
@Paycho
How I view it:
5’6 and under: short
5’6.5-5’7.5: below average/shortish
5’8-5’10.5: average
5’11-6’0: above average/tallish
6’0.5-6’3: tall
6’3.5-6’5.5: very tall
6’6-6’8: extremely tall
6’9+: giant
c-mo said on 18/Aug/19
@Arthur

I am a strong 176cm not a weak one . I am 176cm or slightly above even in the afternoon after being awake for 6 and more hours . and at night I only slightly fall below 176cm like 175.9 or 175.8cm or something . it is also hard to measure it exactly to the point even with a stadiometer because of how hard you press etc. . but I am around the 176cm mark even in the evening pretty much so thats a STRONG 176cm not a weak one . I am 177cm after being awake for 1.5 - 2 hours so if anything I am a weak 177cm man not weak 176cm . and I wont even argue about this because it would be silly . weak 176cm ....lol .....


@Greg

I dont only notice taller men . and I live here since around 30 years . the official average height for germany is 5'11 without old men . and it is correct . ajax509 also lives in germany and he also said that average for germany is around 179cm . for only the younger generation it is rather 180cm easily . there is no room for discussion ....you cant know it better than us living here and the official stats are also clear


@ajax509

I am not complaining about my height . whats wrong with you people do you have processing issues ? I say A and you understand it as B . enough with this please . I already said often that I have a decent height and feel quite good . I just with I was a little taller thats all . you have guys here who are 6'0 or even taller who wish they were taller but I dont see you accusing them about complaining their height . are you guys gathering and conspire on me or what ? lol :D
Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 18/Aug/19
@Greg
Technically, we don't have complete freedom of speech on this site though. There are Terms Of Service. It's owned and operated by Rob, so he has the right to approve or delete any comment he wants to. 1st Amendment doesn't apply to CelebHeights.
Editor Rob
Yeah, I am lenient at times with the terms, but maybe I should watch a few more comments closely as it's easy for things to escalate.

It's just different opinions on height - I don't agree with a lot of comments or opinions, but I'm not going to get upset over it. In fact adding the voting option a few years ago means I see a lot more varying opinions in the form of guesses.
Luca said on 17/Aug/19
Rob, these days I ve been really thoughtful about it, and I'd like to know your opinion : since what I wrote you in my last post, should I consider as my "realest" height the one with Feet apart or the one with them together?
Editor Rob
It's recommended by practitioners in the medical field to have pateints stand with feet closer together for measuring.
Bobby 178cm said on 17/Aug/19
@Arthur

Nah, I'd say I'm a solid 177cm discounting that I can dip under at an extreme low. Unless you're accounting for extreme lows too. But I still don't see how 5'10 could be average amongst younger Greeks, unless we're counting morning height or something, in which case, I'm exactly 5'10.5 in the morning. Other statistics place 5'9.75 or about 5'10 as the average for young Greeks. It doesn't explain me feeling above average there though.
Bego said on 17/Aug/19
Wealth has nothing to do with heights. Thats a myth and bs. Height is associated with genetics mostly and lifestyle (food, exercise etc..) in minority which might help you only to gain 1inch more max. Height is usually nature's giving alot too. I know some dudes who are like over 190cm but their dad is 175cm where as i know my friend who is 176cm but his dad is my height 184cm.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 17/Aug/19
How tall is Mr Viper? 🐍
avi said on 17/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19

6'0 is more a tallish / above average height.

It's not really that tall. In the Western world especially. I agree that in 3rd world countries it would be tall sometimes very tall.

6'0 is one of the most unique heights as it's obviously not short , it's not really average but it's also not really tall
So people will have varying opinions on whether 6'0 is solid tall.

6'1 I would classify as tall.

I don't think you need to take things so personally on here as I said on Rob's page

You are saying "I didn't do anything wrong..." Or "I don't think you even know how tall legitimate 182cm and 183cm men really are"
These types of things are actually provoking others and you have no call to make a conclusion on what someone does or doesn't know.

It's like you are always trying to convince yourself or reassure yourself or something.

I think your comment is frankly very rude to @C-mo

Telling him to pi$$ off and saying he doesn't "know sh$t"

It's honestly quite hypocritical as it would appear you'd be the one doing the harassing and you have the audacity to say "you'd go to Rob to report him"


@jdubbz

I would agree that strong 6'3/6'4 would be start of very tall.


@Greg

Hey Greg!

I don't know I don't think 6'2 is very tall. It's just a tall height. Like I said it would be the highest optimal height for everyday living.

I see 6'2 guys almost everyday i normally am just local and at work so not like I'm in large crowds.



But at least we can disagree about something and not rip each other's heads off like most people seem to be doing here now :)
Greg said on 17/Aug/19
@C-mo I see well it definitely could have been interpreted as such but I see where you are coming from and you know I like you as a poster I have no issues with you and never had any in the past. In terms of what you said about Cranston he is a legit 5’10 peak I think he was the full 5’11 if not really close because he managed to look tallish in Malcom in the middle. With that being said I think the averages Vary everywhere you go and sometimes people in taller countries can be shorter my Bus driver for the tour was Serbian and he was around Robs height more or less so that’s under their average by a decent bit. I think generally speaking the European average is marginally higher than the U.S but it would all depend. I wish I was Connors height too he’ll i wouldn’t mind growing another inch I’m sure you wouldn’t either.

@ellis Maybe not a flat 5’9 and 5’10 but if you compare 5’9 to 5’10.5-5’11 which is basically in the same catagory you will see what I mean. Not just making a case for 5’9 and 5’11 because that’s obviously a two inch different and most people will agree that 5’10 and 6’0 are in two different catagories and that’s represented by again 2 inches.
kamb246 said on 17/Aug/19
chill out @Connor Simpson you're just insulting people. chill out bro. no problem
Littlelee5ft6 said on 17/Aug/19
C-mo you see 172 as short but not 173??? Nobody can notice 1cm. Sorry but if 172 is short so is 173cm anything below the UK average of 177cm is heading into short category
c-mo said on 17/Aug/19
Bobby 178cm said on 15/Aug/19

177cm is closer to 180 than 175.


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uhm I think any mathematician will disagree with you xD
cmillzz said on 17/Aug/19
@c-mo
Would you really take 5’10 over 6’2 though?
Jdubbz said on 16/Aug/19
@Ellis:

Do you mean that both 6'1 and 6'3 guys are tall, but your cutoff for very tall is 6'5? If so I agree, though I'd push the threshold for very tall down to flat 6'4 or perhaps Canson's height rather than legit 6'5. And don't get me wrong, I consider 6'1 guys tall too, but I think of tall, standout tall, very tall, etc. as separate things. Like if I see a 6'1 guy and a 6'5 guy, both will appear tall though obviously the 6'5 guy is in a different league. I agree though, after 6'3 things get much rarer. I read a statistic somewhere that there are 20 6'3 guys for every 6'6 guy, and that sounds about right judging from what I've seen. In your case there are probably like 50 6'3 guys for every legit 6'7. It's pretty cool to think about, since you are to a 6'3 guy what a 6'3 guy is to the general population in terms of rarity.
Jdubbz said on 16/Aug/19
@Cmillzz:

I agree. 6'10+ guys are truly rare, like maybe once a year rare. It's pretty easy to pick them out considering how much they massively dwarf the entire population. I'd look tiny next to one of those guys. It's easier for me to tell whether someone is 6'7 compared to an average height guy for obvious reasons, and if you don't count the guys I've seen multiple times, I see a new one maybe once every week or two. That's still obviously a very rare height, but it's nothing compared to 6'10+.
Jdubbz said on 16/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson:

I don't see how he insulted you exactly...sure calling you deluded isn't exactly nice, but it's not like he personally insulted your character or anything like that. This seems like a big misunderstanding to me.
Editor Rob
Folk should try to refrain from throwing insults, even if a persons opinion is far off from your own.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Ellis
But I'm around 6'5" and I don't encounter anyone my height or taller for at least a whole week, sometimes even a couple weeks, and I live in a big populated area like LA.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
I know some might disagree, but anything 6" taller than the average is "very tall" in my book. So in the US it would be 6'3"+. I know that the average is around 5'9.5" where you live, so it might be 6'3.5" for you. And "giant" would be over 11" taller, so 6'8"+ IMO.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Canson
Do you believe that HGH is administered to some basketball players when they're young to make them super tall though? I don't doubt that for a second.
Canson said on 16/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: I agree with everything Ellis said. You may go days without seeing a guy over 6’3”. I am often the tallest person in the room unless I’m around one of my close friends, 3 of which are taller than me and one of which is pretty much a solid 6’3 (6’2 7/8 at 60)
Greg said on 16/Aug/19
@Bobby Agreed Napoleon aka Ajax has been trolling this forum for the past 2 weeks now it’s a shame he won’t come to his senses 😂
ajax509 said on 16/Aug/19
Yeah it's my fault, sorry for that! I'd just missed you're a Yankee, it's not about measurements, it's about alternative facts 🇺🇸. Either you agree on a size difference 👍 or you just spread untruths.

By now, I think it would be best to start a CelebHeights.com fundraiser, Headline: Leg lengthening surgery for our beloved board member 'Bobby 178cm'.
I'm sure, if you stop idiotic comments on this thread a large donation will come together.
And if that isn't enough 📏, we just ask Elon Musk to shoot you into space 🚀 so you can keep your morning height 24/7.
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Bobby 178cm said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
I forget what his low is personally. I can't remember if I'm half an inch or three quarters of an inch taller than he is, but my point was that I don't place 175 in the same category as 177 let alone 178. Even if the difference is just 2cm, 177cm is closer to 180 than 175.
@Ajax509
You're an idiot, C-Mo and I have established in the past that we are half an inch apart, which is 1.3cm. Just because our morning measurements are close doesn't mean we are under 1cm apart. I wasn't downgrading anyone. I can't remember what his low was.
@C-Mo
I didn't mean to offend you. I honestly couldn't recall what your regular low was. Mine is 177.2cm, what was yours again? Like 176cm? Well, let's say that. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I didn't mean for it to escalate like this.
ajax509 said on 16/Aug/19
@c-mo
maybe quit complaining about your height, it is like every once in a week we read "bla bla 180-184cm golden range". Accept your own height! For a solid 5ft 9, many men would swap their own height within the blink of an eye!! In my opinion, your height is much more ideal than any height over 6ft 2. Carry it!
Greg said on 16/Aug/19
@c-mo I disagree 5’10 can’t really be the average all around Europe you are most likely walking around town and paying attention to the taller guys as opposed to the shorter guys. Sometimes it can feel that way but I’m telling you that is now the case. Sure you could feel the younger generation in Germany might average 5’10-5’11 because you notice the tall guys but that’s not true.

@Mikeg 5’11 Well personally once you hit 6’0 you should be viewed as tall especially if you’re a legit 6’0 in most places hitting around 6’1 range in shoes that’s a tall guy. Also again proportions have a lot to do with it so if you have good proportions in decent footwear that will increase the perception. It’s also different in retrospect to who’s observing your height.
Greg said on 16/Aug/19
@Jddubz Freedom of Speech 1st Amendment Connor can post and say whatever he wants it was a Disagreement between the two C-mo seems to have explained himself a little bit more, but I agree with Connor though it seemed like c-mo was purposely trying to make it seem so that Connors height was only viewed as above average whilst all of a sudden .5 inches taller or up was tall lmao like no it don’t work that way.
Arthur! said on 16/Aug/19
If c-mo wakes up at 178.3 cm he can't be under 175.5 cm at his worst. He is a weak 176 cm guy. Bobby is more of a flat 177 cm guy than a solid one. You guys are only half an inch apart, you both are in the same category. 5'9 to 5'11 is average range. That doesnt mean of course that 5'9 is the same as 5'10 nor the same as 5'11. Every 1 cm counts in the average range, that's the truth.

Why does everyone find it so hard to believe that young greeks are at least 5'10? In the UK average height is 5'9 and for youngsters it's 5'10. Wikipedia pegs are our average down as 5'9.5, so young greeks average at 5'10.5, which makes sense because I am 178.5 cm at my usual low and I feel quite average amongst the younger generation, but since I live in the more wealthy suburbs of Athens I sometimes tend to feel 1 or 2 cm below against the YOUNGER, I REPEAT, YOUNGER GENERATION. I feel 2 cm taller against the whole male population. I never said the average male height of all ages is 5'10, of course it's in the 5'9 range, but your own out of nowhere 5'8 range estimates for the male greek average are hilarious. There is no way IN HELL you d see more 5'5 young guys than 6'3, so that's why Im suggesting the average's at least 5'10 or a bit more for youngsters.
cmillzz said on 16/Aug/19
@Greg
If 5’7 is short, then 5’11 is tall. I don’t know about you, but I would never describe a 5’11 guy as being “tall”.
Paycho said on 16/Aug/19
Hey rob
What is the difference between "medium height" and "average height". People sometimes use them interchangeably. But i get the sense that "medium height" is more broad and covering a wider range like 5"7-5"11 maybe less (including below and above average). While average height is a narrow range, even one number. "Medium height" is more a normal range than average range for most people. Do you agree? I would really like your input on this subject?
Thanks
Editor Rob
I've never really used that term, I think most who do are probably thinking of an average range, maybe 5ft 8-10?
Importer said on 16/Aug/19
Good to know
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Cmillzz
It also depends on what type of place they live. Seeing a 6'10"+ guy is more common if you live in a big populated city. A 6'7" guy can never see anyone taller than him for years, if he lives in a rural area.
Luca said on 16/Aug/19
@K.A.188 what is your absolute lowest height ever reached?
c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
@ Johan 185 cm

nah ... 172 - 175cm are not in the same category really . 175cm is only 2-3cm below average for young men and almost bang on average when you include older men too . while 172cm is 5-6cm below average . a 175cm man will look fairly average height while 172cm is a bit short

look at Robert Knepper for example . he is a weak 175cm even so not even the strongest 175cm guy and when I watched prison break I NEVER thought his height as short . I also thought he has a nice and aesthetic height always. while at the same tiem look at actor aron paul . I dont know if you watched breaking bad and he doesnt look that "short" to me either but he does seem a bit shortish or below average

compare him with bryan cranston who is 5'10

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he is 172cm (at least he is listed at that and I think rob listed him correctly) . a 175cm man would look different next to bryan cranston be sure of that

in fact I have a 181cm friend and the difference between me and is less than between these both actors


a 175cm man will wake at 177cm or so so he will be closer to 180cm even than to 172cm in the morning while a 172cm man will wake at 174cm or so so he will not even be 175cm even in the morning . it is a difference trust me .

grant heslov seems to be a strong 175cm and compare him with 5'10 range george clooney

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I mean you might argue that Aron Paul might be a little shorter than 172cm ? maybe . but I doubt it . either way 172cm and 175cm are pretty different because as I said at 175cm you are only a bit below average while at 172cm you fall more strongly below average .

in before "gEoRgE cLoOnEy Is 5'9" ....nope he isnt


I have the feeling that people want to put 175cm with 172 or even 170cm here just because I am 176cm in the evening . as if you dont want to "grant me" to be in the same category with 178 - 180cm or even 177cm . lol . wtf is going on haha


I mean you can think what you want of course . but I can tell you that 172cm and 175cm even are pretty different and the jump from 172cm to 175cm is pretty big because you jump from a bit short to average height



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@Greg

I didnt even attack bobby nor was I "defensive" . you shouldnt take the way I am writing the wrong way . I might sound like a know it better person or even angry sometimes but thats only because it is hard to talk on the internet . if you talked to me in real life you would know what I mean . I was not attacking bobby or anybody . nor did I try to disrespect connor or anybody . I just wanted to state my opinion nothing more


to answer your questions :

I live in southwest area of center germany so I am not even living in the north where people are even taller . average here is 5'11 for non elderly ethnic german men and 5'10 if you include the older ones too and probably around 5'9 when you also include immigrants . as I said I dont feel short here at 5'9.25 night height . also southern europeans and people like russians are rather around my height on average ...south europeans might even be a bit below my height on average . I think I am also a bit above average for turkey where I am from (I am kurdish btw.) . but people like germans , croats , serbs etc ? they are easily 5'11 on average ..... easily


regarding Rob . no I dont think Rob is "short" . but Robs height is what I consider the buffer zone or borderline height as I wrote in my height chart below . it is below average but not properly "short" yet and can look and feel average often . Rob also says the same btw. about his height . he said this a couple of times already too so I am not making it up either thats how Rob feels how 5'8 is . 173 - 174cm at night is the buffer zone and anything below 173cm at night starts to become short and anything above 174cm at night is definitely not short at all anymore and will be average for sure . of course at heights like 172cm you will not be suddenly become strongly short and a 172cm man and even a 170cm man can look and feel average and wont stand out but it definitely starts to fall in the "shorter side" a bit . and of course at 175cm you will not start to tower all the 170-172cm men all of a sudden lol but at 175cm you definitely are out of the "short side" and will look and feel fairly average most of the time ....but you can sometimes of course feel a bit shortish at 175cm even but not nearly as much as with 172cm and below

Rob has very good proportions btw. . he has very aesthetic proportions


and regarding connor :

I know I sounded a bit fussy and also as if I dont grant him his opinion . which was not my intention . I respect his opinion and if he feels tall then I believe him of course . he is above average height anyway . and 6'0 is a perfect height to be I wish I was his height :D
Ellis said on 15/Aug/19
@Jbubbz: I agree with what you are saying. 5'9 and 5'10 are not in two different categories, 5'9 and 5'11 can definitely make a case for it.

I think being a legit 6'7 guy, that even 6'0 is not by any means average. Actually, by some notions it could be accountable as tall. Somebody posted that they don't feel tall at 6'0.5, it's hard for me to tell because I dwarf everyone, but I feel as if 6'1 is a tall height. 6'3 is really the cutoff, after that the heights become rarer and less frequent, but even 6'1 is a tall height, despite the fact that is accompanied by a much larger count then people 6'3, it is a tall height. However, 6'3 is a height you will always see, I believe the cut off is at 6'5, at 6'5 flat at night, there is a chance you might not see anyone that height the whole day. That is why when some people see me they acknowledge my presence, it really showed when I was recently in a populated area, and I stood next to a measure up thing, and when I say everyone, literally everyone, like 15 people stopped to look at how tall I was, it was kinda weird, but shows just how insecure people can be with height, there had to be like 20 people in the room.
Jdubbz said on 15/Aug/19
@Canson: Idk if I'd call 190cm very tall. A 6'2.8" guy doesn't give the same "tall guy" impression that someone of your height does. I'd argue that the 190-193cm range is the borderline area between tall and very tall, since it is standout tall in public (especially 192-193cm) but doesn't really tower average height guys like a 194cm+ guy would.
Bego said on 15/Aug/19
@pov 185cm is what i consider start of tall. 182 to 184cm is just tallish.
Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz This has nothing to do with him disagreeing with my opinions and that he doesn't consider me tall thats fine idc but its nothing to do with that.

Im angry with him because he wasnt respecting me and Bobby when he said to us that we were deluded just for having different opinions than his, now you cant seriously tell me that's acceptable. He was out of order and i wasnt just going to sit back and not do anything, i had every right to speak out against him. I dont condone what he did and if i feel like giving people a piece of my mind when they provoke me i will do and ill continue to defend myself and other people whether you like it or not, so sorry to disappoint you but im sticking to my guns with this.
Canson said on 15/Aug/19
@Christian: that’s interesting about Yao. I’ve never heard that until now. Even if it isn’t true I still never heard Eugenics associated with him
Canson said on 15/Aug/19
@Christian: that’s interesting about Yao. I’ve never heard that until now
Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19
@c-mo I was offended because of how you spoke to me and Bobby and no you didn't respect our opinions at all because if you did you wouldn't have said to us that we were deluded so quit the BS, and i know the average height here way better than you do Mr Know it all.

For the last time it's not 5'10, for the young generation perhaps but overall for all ages and all races, even for European men it is still much less than 5'10, trust me ive seen way more 5'9 and 5'8 men than 5'10, and i guarantee you its not just where i live, the average would be lower everywhere else too. Just because some surveys report the UK average to be 5'10 doesn't necessarily mean that its true, thats just what some people think it is.

And how is 182-183cm "rather a little above average"? that makes no sense. I don't think you even know how tall legitimate 182cm and 183cm men really are, in that range you are clearly taller than most men you walk past, ill even show you my percentile for my height in the UK since you think you know everything:

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And as usual you keep refusing to acknowledge that the average height wont be the same in other countries so its quite obvious that you still didn't do any research, you dont know s**t. The global average IS less than 5'10 because most men are below it, i even proved it to you and yet you are still denying it, im not going to argue with you anymore and my patience is wearing thin, ive had a pretty stressful day today so im not in the mood for this.

Now let me set the record straight to you, i dont like you i dont think you respect me and Bobby at all or anyone else for that matter, and if you reply to me again then i will report you to Rob for harassment, now piss off.
Bobby 178cm said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz

I forget what his low is personally. I can't remember if I'm half an inch or three quarters of an inch taller than he is, but my point was that I don't place 175 in the same category as 177 let alone 178. Even if the difference is just 2cm, 177cm is closer to 180 than 175.

@Ajax509

You're an idiot. C-Mo and I have established in the past that we are half an inch apart, which is 1.3cm. Just because our morning measurements are close doesn't mean we are under 1cm apart. I wasn't downgrading anyone. I can't remember what his low was.

@C-Mo

I didn't mean to offend you. I honestly couldn't recall what your regular low was. Mine is 177.2cm, what was yours again? Like 176cm? Well, let's say that. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I didn't mean for it to escalate like this.
ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
Let me finish my comment on height in Germany:
I'm from Germany too and I can verify average is 178.9cm
Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19
@ajax509 Ive not done anything wrong, i have every right to stand up for myself after how rude c-mo was to me and Bobby calling us deluded all just because we had different opinions than his, if you got a problem with that then take it up with Rob, but he acted like everything he was saying was factual, if anyone is deluded it's him because its all subjective. There's no right or wrong answer and he needs to realize that.
Jdubbz said on 15/Aug/19
@Ajax: I’d say very tall is 193+ rather than 190+. Everything else is spot on though.
Jdubbz said on 15/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson: Jesus Christ dude, you don’t have to go off on a rant just because C-mo disagrees with your views and doesn’t consider you tall. It’s really not that big of a deal, you know if you’re tall and you don’t need someone else’s approval for that.

@Bobby: you and C-mo are most certainly not in a different category. He’s not a flat 175cm, closer to 176cm I think. That’s a half inch difference between you and him. Different category would be like if C-mo was a weak 5’9 and you were a strong 5’10 or weak 5’11. Weak 5’10 and strong 5’9 aren’t that different.
ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
If c-mo's a solid 175cm then you're a flat 176. Do the math 179.1-178.3cm = 0.8cm
I don't respect posters who downgrade others. Whilst upgrading yourself, that's pretty steep!! 😂
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Bobby 178cm said on 13/Aug/19
@C-Mo

Actually, given your low as being around a solid 175 and myself a solid 177 at a low, I am 2cm taller than you. Almost an inch taller. My height is in a different category to yours. Anyway, my comment wasn't meant to attack you, I just don't agree with categorizing 5'9 and 5'11 in the same category as each other. A 181cm man is going to be seen as tallish whereas a 175 man will feel average height. That's 6cm apart, not in the same category. If you had said something like 180 to 183 or something, it'd make more sense. A 6cm difference is almost 3 inches or about 2.5 inches.
c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
bobby

I didnt get it as an attack and I also didnt attack you either . I am just saying that what you are saying doesnt make sense .

I am 176cm in the evening or slightly below . not 175cm . so you are 1.3cm taller than me . make it 1.5cm if you want doesnt matter . so you are basically only a bit taller than me but place me with 170cm men in a category and yourself with 181cm men ? really ? lol wtf bro

I am also closer to 180cm than to 170cm . you are just a little closer to 180cm than me but to place yourself in the same category with 181cm (which is not wrong btw.) but placing me with 170cm men .....nah thats total bs

I am 5'10 in the morning and 5'9.25 at night and get placed with 5'7 men in a category by a guy who is not even 1 inch taller than me who places himself with 5'11.25 men in one category but leaving me ...his fellow average height bro out :p hehe
Emil said on 15/Aug/19
@Houss

It's hard to assess based on that picture taken the angle and perspective into account, but I'd go with 6-7 inches (15-18 cm).
Bego said on 15/Aug/19
I was on concert yesterday here in Modrac lake in Robinzon, there were about 1k people there. Avg seemed by height, i felt bellow avg few times, there was a huge security guard About 195cm possibly larger i didnt pay much attebtion, he was so huge and wide, he is the legit biggest guy i have saw in my life, all muscular.
ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
c-mo wrote multiple times his range is 178.3-175.8cm, damn get you're own facts right! I'm from Germany too and I can verify average is 178.9cm for
K.A 188 ! said on 15/Aug/19
@MYSELF
For the generations born in the 90's just like you and me . I think the average is 175-180 cm, of course exception are always there but generally speaking thats the average.
At times i wonder if the average will keep increasing or stabilize? Like in Holland or Germany.
Canson said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: I’d start very tall at about 190 and go up to 200. 180-189 would be tall imho
ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
@Connor
Last days, you are running out of control. Calm down mate!
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Connor Simpson said on 13/Aug/19
@c-mo you act like you know everything Mr Know it all, let people have their opinions about heights they are entitled to them and you were out of line for what you said about us, if you reply to me again im not even going to bother messaging you back, ive got better things to do with my time than waste it on toxic people like you, you're a waste of space.
ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
If both barefooted/same stance, 6.5 inches.
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houss said on 13/Aug/19
How much is the difference between the two
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c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson

why are you so angry though ? and why are you insulting me ? xD lol

I have posted links of average heights for europe 2-3 hours ago or so and they will be up later or maybe the post will be up before this one which I am writing right now and you can see there that average is in the around 178cm evening for young european men .

5'10 is the average height for european men not 5'9 and for sure not 5'8 . if it is around 5'8 where you live then it is only because of all the people who have foreign ancestry and hail from shorter countries and when you also include old men . if you want to include them to measure the average then you can do it of course . it is up to you .

in that case yes 6'0 would be tall . and 6'0 is also tall outside of europe of course. and even for europe it is above average as I also said . you talk as if I said that 6'0 is short or something lol . I just dont think it is solid "tall" you know .....and I said 6'0.5 because that would be imo the bare minimum height where you could argue that is tall for an ethnic young european guy . basically 184cm at night . but 185cm and over I would say is where real tall starts . 182-183cm is rather a litle above average . of course there will be a decent amount of people who will see a 6'0 man as tall of course ....it is a bit of a difficult matter . I didnt try to lecture you about your heihgt and didnt want to offend you . I just gave my opinion . and I respect your opinion . I also think 6'0 is the perfect height btw. :) so I am a fan of your height

and here in germany average is AT LEAST 5'10 but rather 5'11 for ethnic young german men btw. . I dont think anywhere in germany the average for young german guys is any less than 5'10 on average and if it is then such cities/regions would be atypical . I am not even in the north btw.

and I am not 175.1-2 cm at night . I am 176 - 176.1 cm in the afternoon after being awake for 6+ hours and 175.9cm at night or slightly below like 175.8cm . so I am "CLOSER" to 180cm than to 170cm . you know what CLOSER means right ?

I am not saying that I am "close to 180cm" like a 179cm guy or whatever . my point was that I am always closer to 180cm than I am to 170cm on any time of the day so you can not put me in the same category as 170cm . and if we take your view on average height then it would make even less sense to put me in the same category with 170cm because you say average is 5'8 - 5'9 and I am 5'10 in the morning and a little above 5'9 even at night so I would be above average according to that and if you put me with 5'7 in the same category you would basically put an above average guy with a below average height in the same category which doesnt make any sense

also bobby is only 1.3cm or so taller than me thats why I found it weird how he lists himself with 181cm in the same category but I am with 170cm in the same cateogry according to him even though he is barely taller than me and we are both around average height lol .

thats like putting a 180.3cm man in the same category with 184cm but a 179cm man in the same category with 173cm . it doesnt make any sense . you can not even put a 174cm guy in the same category with 170cm because a 174cm guy is 3-4cm below average while a 170cm guy is 7-8cm below average . my brother is 174cm at night and he looks pretty average even though on the weaker side... or at worst a little below average while 170cm men look very obviously below average

I am actually quite surprised by your reaction . I wouldnt have thought that you will talk like this lol

I didnt want to offend you
Greg said on 15/Aug/19
@Ajax You make absolutely no sense, If by Napoleon you are referring to yourself Than yes Mr. Dynamite we might not Vote for Pedro’s compaign after all Lord Manlet wouldn’t want to get angry as you’re the overseer of them. I don’t agree with this unless you are talking about some European Countries. Anything over 176 is above average in US and UK. So 177 is marginally above average even ask Bobby he’s form Canada so going by their average . 179-180 is above average to tallish. 182+ is getting into the tall range and 185 is legit tall and anything 188+ will be a standout tall.
cmillzz said on 15/Aug/19
A 6’10 guy could go years without seeing someone his height or taller. 6’7, I doubt, unless they never leave their house.
Johan 185 cm said on 15/Aug/19
I would say that 172-175 cm belong more together as they are under average but not short heights.

176-179cm as being average and maybe 180-183 as being above average. Anything over 184 cm being regular tall and over 190 cm very tall.

All low heights.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Aug/19
@Importer
It's possible. After all, some athletes are known to use steroids and other performance enhancements, and there are more that use them but we just don't know about it. I saw a conspiracy theory online that in China, they even use eugenics to breed people to be extremely tall in order to play basketball, It's been rumored that Yao Ming was bred via eugenics, but I l'd doubt it.
mikeg5'11 said on 15/Aug/19
c-mo I dont think that 6'0.5 is the bare minimun to be considered tall I mean is the same as 6'0 and you dont considered that tall tbh 6'1.5 is the bare minimun to be tall since average is atleast 5'10
c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
@Importer

The average height for young men worldwide is rather 5‘7.5 ....no way is it 5‘9

Has any of you seen this site/forum ? the thread is about average male height and it looks reasonably accurate to me

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Stats are between 2006 and 2010 though

another site with averages but the values are all at point zero and probably rounded up or down or something . (it is in german)

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also take a look at this site this one is really cool . probably the most up to date site . it seems the stats are for 2017-2018 :

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you can change the gender when you click on the top left where it says “women” and you can change it to map view by clicking on top right on “switch to map” . you can also choose the birth year of the men on the bottom. It seems that it calculates only the heights of 18 year olds no matter what birth year you are putting it on . correct me if I am wrong . which would mean you might add 1-2cm for possible late growth but I doubt this is necessary


The first link (the one from the forum ) says that the average height for young european men is 177.5 cm .

I also calculated the average height for european men from the second link/site but without turkey and georgia , even though they are borderline european countries (armenia and azerbaijan and cyprus are not on the list ) . and I didnt include romania and moldavia because their average is low compared to their neighbors ....a reason for that could be that they have a lot of romanis in their country who are not really ethnic europeans but might have been included in the statistics thats why I didnt include them . the same problem applies to other countries in the balkan area and even other european countries too but I still included them . I also didnt include albania at 174cm because that value seems unrealistic to me ...there are also some other heights which seem unrealistic to me like 178cm for montenegro seems too low or 179cm for france seems too high .

anyway I got an average of 178.857 cm with this calculation . when I DO include romania/bulgaria/albania/turkey/georgia I get 178.325cm

with the third link I adjusted the birth year to 1996 and I got these average heights for europe :

I didnt include turkey/armenia/georgia/azerbaijan/cyprus because they are borderline european countries .

I have done 2 calculations . one without russia , moldova , romania , albania and one with them . the reason why I excluded russia is that russia has many different ethnic groups and also people who are of east asian or similar ethnic make up and not ethnic european . and moldova + romania are most likely that low because of the romanis as I said . I actually would have also exclude some other countries from the balkan area + hungary because of the romanis and I think the UK average would also be higher without the all immigrants . but I didnt exclude them because that would be too many countries to exclude. and albania is a mystery to me too . I highly doubt the average height for ethnic albanians is that „low“ .

so the results are :

without russia/moldova/romania/albania = 179.12 cm

with russia/moldova/romania/albania = 178.67cm

wow ....

so since it seems that the stats are for 18 year olds we could even add 1-2cm because some will grow a little until 20 – 25 . some might even grow more than that and have a late growth spurt . that would make the average easily 180cm or even a bit more for ethnic european men in 2019 . I do think that these measurements are from earlier in the day . maybe some are even self reported ? I dont know . but it does seem that the average height for a young european man is around 178cm in the evening either way . all data points us to that value roughly . definitely no lower than 177cm evening either way . so 6‘0 is NOT „tall“ as I said . and the average height for europe is NOT 5‘9 let alone 5‘8 but a solid 5’10 or even a bit more . average range is 5‘9 – 5’11 even though 5'9 is almost already a bit below the average range . 5‘8 and 6‘0 are buffer zone or borderline heights . 5‘7 is starting to get short and 6‘1 is the start of tall

so the notion that "average is 5'8-5'9" or "6'0 is tall ! " are not accurate .
Paycho said on 14/Aug/19
Hey rob,
The comments below ,which debates the average height range in europe is interesting,but contradicts alot of the statistics iv seen. What do you think is average range in europe and what would be considered short there?(im not from europe so i really dont know) and what european coutries would be below that average of europe?
Thanks
Nik Ashton said on 14/Aug/19
I agree with Connor about the average being 5’8” - 5’9”!
cmillzz said on 14/Aug/19
Bobby at 177cm is barely above average.
cmillzz said on 14/Aug/19
@C-mo
I think of 168-169cm as being the start of short rather than 172cm.
Luca said on 14/Aug/19
Rob, just one last thing:I noticed that if I stand with my feet at my shoulder width I measure a hair more than with my feet together, feeling that this way I can stretch better my legs: since that, should I use to measure myself with my feet a bit apart?
Editor Rob
if you want another mm on your height, then stand with feet 6-8 inches apart!
Bobby 178cm said on 14/Aug/19
@Jdbubbz

Nah, I don't consider myself above average because I want to make my height seem glorious or anything of that nature. I'm just going based off observation and experience as living in one of the most diverse cities in the world: Toronto. Also, considering I measure or am close to 178cm in the afternoon, I feel as though 5'10 is on the higher point of average in Toronto. Tall average, I'd think. I just disagreed with C-Mo saying that 5'9 and 5'11.25 belong in the same category. I mean, be honest, out of the two, which do you think is going to be called tall versus average? The guy who measures 5'11.25, right? My statement wasn't meant to attack C-Mo or his height, we just had a disagreement on height categories. And to be fair, I even consider a man of C-Mo's stature to be slightly above the average height too. I only say this because I see a lot of 5'7-5'8 guys here in Toronto. I'm taller than a good share of people at the supermarket and on campus I feel between average and above average, it's a little weird sometimes. I think 5'10 is average on my campus but sometimes it can be above average depending on the time of day.
pov said on 14/Aug/19
In my opinion speaking for the younger generation in the UK. (90’s kids) 6”3 is the new tall. I’m 6”0.5 and im rarely referred to as tall, I don’t feel tall, I was never considered “tall” in school or at uni. im only slighly taller than most my friends who mostly sit in the 5”9-5”11 range with a few shorter ones and taller ones outside that bracket. Only elder relatives refer to me as “tall”. I don’t even view 6”1 as tall. I’d say 6”2 is quite tall. 6”3 is a solid tall.
Bego said on 14/Aug/19
When i was in Graz Austria i could never tell whats the avg i have seen both short and tall Austrians, older people were usually shorter and i saw one taller one. Half of people were immigrants i edged out and towered so idk what avg id give them. 180cm estimate for young and 177cm for all ages
Importer said on 14/Aug/19
@c-mo I think @Bobby meant to say that he feels more often above average than just average and for @Connor Simpson he feels more often tall than just above average, so at the end of the day that feeling is going to count really. @Jdubbz I agree it depends. You live in an area where your height feels very tall rather than freakish. If you moved to Bobby’s or Connor’s area you’d feel taller I say.
Importer said on 14/Aug/19
@c-mo I think @Bobby meant to say that he feels more often above average than just average and for @Connor Simpson he feels more often tall than just above average, so at the end of the day that feeling is going to count really. @Jdubbz I agree it depends. You live in an area where your height feels very tall rather than freakish. If you moved to Bobby’s or Connor’s area you’d feel taller I say.
cmillzz said on 14/Aug/19
Tbh, I don’t really think any height should be grouped with each other. Because even an inch can make quite a big difference between a lot of heights.
Connor Simpson said on 14/Aug/19
Height comparison between a 6 footer and someone at 6'0.5:

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Greg said on 14/Aug/19
@C-mo I think you’re misunderstanding what Bobby and Connor are trying to say or maybe it was miscommunicated, whatever the reason is I’ll break it down to you. So first of to what you said about Greeks averaging 5’10, that is not true I’m sure their are tall Greek men but their average is probably more 5’8-5’9 I’ll say 5’8.5 just for the sake of this argument. What part of Germany do you live in again ? I feel like you are basing this around your town and while to be fair I will agree with you some parts of Germany 5’10 can seem the average for Young men or at least 5’9.5 I’ve seen tall people in Switzerland and in Austria plus some parts of Germany even the elder generation. Now I’m about an inch and change taller then you, I would put your height in the average catagory. Maybe sometimes you would feel below average in certain places as sometimes I even feel about average or barely above it in Europe but sometimes I will feel above it just depends. 5’7 is short 5’8 isn’t really that short although I’ve had some 5’8 friends feel like they where short at a bar before I felt comfortably above average I mean this was in America but generally I will feel taller in my town than in Europe. Now here’s another thing I disagree with you about 6’0.5 being a minimum to be tall just lol at that? So how is Connor above average he’s perfectly tall at around 80 something percentile in the UK. You’ll be taller than most Men you meet not counting taller countries where the average is say 5’11 so he will be above average there. As for Bobby I think you thought he was attacking you and got super defensive relax. He was trying to act better than you he’s not taller than you by much. I noticed the taller posters here have more strict standards about what is tall so the taller they are the taller you would have to be to be categorized by them. I wouldn’t group 5’9-5’11 as average and nobody is saying 5’9 is a bad height it’s not bad. 5’10 and 5’11 are above average in most places with the exception of a few tall Countries. 5’8 isn’t short would you call a guy like Rob short? No he holds up well with most celebs I think you need to chill out bro forreal.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Aug/19
@K.A
You're not going to get an accurate measurement unless you use a aerosol can or a thick hard book. Those two methods are the best alternatives for a stadiometer. Using only a ruler isn't enough.
Redwing said on 14/Aug/19
K.A 188@

Hey man, yeah bro that’s quite the trip so you too grew like 7 cm since 2014; height system here in NZ is quite inaccurate too as I’ve measured 175 cm before and etc. Which is strange as I’m a fraction shorter than my stepdad who’s you’re 1.88 cm tall. This was this year as well it blew my mind, and doesn’t add up since I was nearly 7 cm shorter than a 194 cm man. Do you look younger than you’re age? I think that might help too with growing huh
Luca said on 14/Aug/19
Rob, if busting a gut and just standing tall I measure exactly the same, it means that I have an impeccable posture?
I remember you that I made posture exercises for different months, which made me gain about 7-8 mm of height
Editor Rob
It shows you have a very good posture.

Someone like Tom Cruise when he poses is probably near his measured height in many photos.
Jdubbz said on 13/Aug/19
@c-mo: I'd place you both in same category. I’d say 5’9-5’10 is average, with upper average beginning at 179cm/5’10.5 night height. That’s just my opinion, but yeah 5’7 and 5’9 definitely aren’t in the same group. I don’t think Bobby meant to offend you. We all like to view our heights in the best way possible. Bobby considers himself to be above average at 177cm (I don’t think he is, but that’s just based on my area and I don’t mean to insult him), and I think of my height as very tall but not freakish at all. Not everyone sees things that way, so there’s bound to be some disagreement when it comes to categorizing heights.

As for your height chart, I mostly agree though I’d call 186cm - 192cm tall (I think of 192-193cm as a buffer zone) and 194-200cm very tall. Also I’d insert a tallish or above average category between 181cm and 186cm.
Bobby 178cm said on 13/Aug/19
@C-Mo

Actually, given your low as being around a solid 175 and myself a solid 177 at a low, I am 2cm taller than you. Almost an inch taller. My height is in a different category to yours. Anyway, my comment wasn't meant to attack you, I just don't agree with categorizing 5'9 and 5'11 in the same category as each other. A 181cm man is going to be seen as tallish whereas a 175 man will feel average height. That's 6cm apart, not in the same category. If you had said something like 180 to 183 or something, it'd make more sense. A 6cm difference is almost 3 inches or about 2.5 inches.

I understand what you're saying, but by your logic, I am considerably closer to 180cm, I wake up at 179cm and in shoes I am 181+ and in boots, I am 182cm. Also, I consider myself a 177/178 guy. What I'm getting at is that 5'10 can be called tallish, especially if it's a big 5'10, like 5'10.5.

And I'm sorry to say, C-Mo, but I've been to Greece, and I can tell you for a fact, that the average height for young Greeks is not 5'10. I even asked Rob for his opinion and he doubts it too. From what I noticed, I'd say a strong 5'8 is average, maybe a legit 5'9.
Connor Simpson said on 13/Aug/19
@c-mo I know i said i wasnt going to message you again but first i need to get something else off my chest, you need to think before what you type, you keep forgetting that 5'10 is not the average height everywhere and besides thats only for the young generation and in some parts of the world the average for younger people is even lower than that, 5'10 may be the average in some parts of Germany but its not that for the most part and 5'10 looks more slightly above average than just bang on average, you need your eyes testing maybe you should have gone to Specsavers? 😂 just an idea.

Also WRONG Greeks dont average at 5'10 its 5'9.5, dont believe me? take a look at this link, Click Here do some research of the average heights for different countries and see for yourself im not telling you any more because im a lot smarter than you. 😀

Ive just looked up the global average height for men and women again and they said it is more like 159.5cm for women and 171cm for men so you're wrong again lol, i was wrong too but at least i can actually admit that im not always right.

So yeah a lot of men are under 5'9 and even 5'8 but obviously youre too thick to understand that, and the fact that you keep repeating the same s**t proves my point, even after seeing what ive posted you'll probably still argue the toss with me, because you dont like it when you're wrong and that someone else is right. ☺️

And if you can actually be bothered to read some of my messages you'd know that im not from Germany where you live, i live in the UK so the average here is 5'9 so 6'0 is quite tall in our country, 6'0 really is 3 inches above average here and i could even argue that the average might be less than that because of how little the amount of 5'9 guys is, it probably is more like 5'8 in the UK so therefore 6'0 is indeed a tall height, 5'11.5 could even be the start of tall because its 3.5 inches taller than that.

Oh yeah i hate to break it to you but you're no where near 180cm not even close to it. Youre 178.3cm out of bed and in the afternoon you're what like 5'9 3/8ths? thats 176.2cm and in the evening youre a little above 175cm so im assuming youre 175.1 or 175.2cm at your low, you're no where near 180cm.

Almost 180cm is more like 179-179.5cm you are just about 5cm shorter so youre more 175ish than nearly 180cm, sorry but you cant argue with facts.

Also you attack Bobby about his opinions of what he thinks of certain heights on whats tall, average and short yet you say 6'0 isnt tall but 6'0.5 is? lol 😂😂😂 its only a half an inch difference, they would look virtually the same in comparison, what you say is so inconsistent it's laughable. Im even laughing now as im writing this hahaha.

But whatever im done with you now its like talking to a brick wall, im going to do something proactive now and enjoy life, you keep on being a s**t human being and a loser, after all its all youre good at it, go and hang out with your good bald friend Arthur and have a sleepover at his cave and you can both go and look for a cure for your hair losses, see ya. 😀👋
Myself said on 13/Aug/19
@K.A
Alright, that's a city not too far away and similar in size to mine, with 25% more inhabitants though. What do you think the global average height is there? What about younger generations 18-30 yo? Here I think it's at most 175-176 for global. Even though sometimes the younger average could seem near enough 5'10 (expecially in University), I still regularly see young guys in 168-173 range.
houss said on 13/Aug/19
How much is the difference between the two
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ajax509 said on 13/Aug/19
My father used to be 5ft 10.25, mother 5ft 1. Grandparents on fathers side 5ft 11 and 5ft 6 (uncles: 6ft and 5ft 10.75), whilst on mothers side 5ft 8.25 and 5ft 1.25 (uncle: 5ft 6). I measure 5ft 9.75, my brother 5ft 7.75.

Would you say I ended up taller than expected?

How tall are your parents/family members?
Editor Rob
I think you probably ended up a bit above the figure a Doctor may have predicted.

I know my Father was 5ft 10 peak (although he has always maintained his army measured height of 5ft 9.75), mother around 5ft 5 peak.

Sometimes you scratch your head at children heights.

For instance here is my Father beside a couple: Click Here. The lady beside my Father was 5ft 4 and her husband on far left was 5ft 5-5.5 range, yet they had 4 sons about 5ft 10 to 6ft range.
Connor Simpson said on 13/Aug/19
@c-mo you act like you know everything Mr Know it all, let people have their opinions about heights they are entitled to them and you were out of line for what you said about us, if you reply to me again im not even going to bother messaging you back, ive got better things to do with my time than waste it on toxic people like you, you're a waste of space.
ajax509 said on 13/Aug/19
What do you guys think of my height chart, was it accurate to you? To be fair, I only include white males (caucasian) who are let's say younger than 40.
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ajax509 said on 10/Aug/19
When we speak in terms of young adults (afternoon height) this would be my classification:

very tall 190cm
tall 187cm
tallish 184cm
average 178cm
shortish 172cm
short 169cm
very short 166cm
Connor Simpson said on 13/Aug/19
@c-mo so were deluded for having an opinion are we? Lol whatever dude
ajax509 said on 13/Aug/19
Bobby's 179.1cm first thing so he's exactly 0.8cm taller than you c-mo.
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c-mo said on 12/Aug/19
@Bobby . I like you as a poster but this is ridiculous ....you can not put 170 – 175/176 in the same category wtf .

you are only 1cm or 1.3cm or so taller than me and you say you are above average and in the same category with 181cm men but I am in the same category with 170cm men ? really ? dude wtf .....
ajax509 said on 13/Aug/19
For 'Mr. Napoleon, PA' it's even worse than offending his mother LOL
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Greg said on 12/Aug/19
@Canson Yeah don’t get me wrong it’s a cool website and all but too much toxicity and stupidity over there. I feel like the term manlet is always thrown out there just like certain morons on here
pov said on 12/Aug/19
Hi Rob, I’m 6”0.5 and a half and my uncle is 5”10.5 but he always looks taller than me in photos even though im clearly 2 inches taller than him. Why is this? I must admit I do slouch slightly but not a lot and he has a straight posture, he’s also bald so it helps him look taller because people see the top of his head instead of his forehead
Editor Rob
That seems bizarre, you must really have terrible stances in photos to be able to look shorter.

Maybe work a bit on posture or remember to stand taller if you want to look taller, though some people have a natural tendency to slouch in photos.
Myself said on 12/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
Well, I only saw about 3 guys around 2+ meters in the last year.
c-mo said on 12/Aug/19
@Bobby . I like you as a poster but this is ridiculous ....you can not put 170 – 175/176 in the same category wtf .

you are only 1cm or 1.3cm or so taller than me and you say you are above average and in the same category with 181cm men but I am in the same category with 170cm men ? really ? dude wtf .....

yes 5’11 is more desirable than 5‘9 but the average height is around 5’10 or so for europe and the western world (without elderly men ) so take 1 inch above and below and that makes 5‘9 – 5’11 the average range . also 5‘9 is not a bad height either ....5’11 is of course a lot better and one of the best heights imo but 5‘9 is still a decent height and both are equally far from the mean average height . you might argue that nowdays for certain places the average is closer to 5’11 than 5‘9 ...ok ....but still when we count all european countries and not only the taller ones then 5’10 seems about right

and you do know that I am closer to 180cm than to 170cm right ? I wake at 178.3cm and I am 177.5cm so (basically only a hair under 5’10) after being awake for 30 mins to 1 hour or so . and even in the evening I am a little above 175cm so how can you put me in the same category with 170cm ? even 174cm is not in the same category as 170cm ....why ? ....because 174cm is 3-4cm below average while 170cm is 7-8cm below average . it is not the same . a 175cm is pretty medium height and will look fairly average while 170cm is rather short and will not look average except sometimes .it is not THAT short but it is definitely on the shorter side . the difference between 170cm and 175cm is higher than between 175cm and 180cm because at 175cm you are only a bit below the mean but at 170cm you are strongly below the mean

it is actually very outrageous of you to put yourself in the above average category along with 181cm men but putting 175cm and even 176cm men in the same category with 170cm men despite you being only a bit taller than 175cm men let alone 176


@Connor Simpson

1. the average height for greeks is 5’10 not 5‘8-5‘9

2. 6‘0 is 2 inches above average not 3-4 inches

3. 6‘0 is not tall . it is above average but not solid tall . you need to be a t least 6‘0.5 at the bare minimum to be tall and even then you are on the very start of being solid tall because actuall tall is 185cm + . 182-183cm is above average but not tall . it is similar to 173-174cm ...173-174cm is below average and maybe slightly shortish (especially 173cm) but not „short“ just like how 182-183cm (especially 182cm) is above average and tallish but not „tall“ . if you cal 6‘0 tall then you have to call 5‘8 short . some of you guys are a bit deluded thinking 5‘8 is average.. no offense . average height is 177-178cm at night
ajax509 said on 12/Aug/19
Last year, I bumped into a man (around 25-30y/o) who stood well over 7 feet. I know for sure because he was walking with a 5ft 8 range guy who didn't come up to his shoulder level.
Literally, folk around wiped their eyes. 👀
Probably one of the tallest persons in Europe!

And yeah... when I observe the city I find 6ft 7+ men every day. Then again, I've never made it across the pond.
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Greg said on 11/Aug/19
@Jddubz I beg to differ maybe that’s just your gym, I don’t know any 6’7 guys off of the top of my head. 6’7 is a very rare height. There used to be a guy at my gym who’s around your height maybe a bit taller and he hasn’t showed up in a while. I did see a 6’8-6’9 guy once at my gym it was a Young kid too but that was the first time I ever saw that. Otherwise it would be once a year at an airport or something I’ll see a 6’7-6’8 guy. While not impossible but a 6’7 guy can go almost years without seeing someone their height or taller at least in America when I say their height I mean 6’6ish-6’7 not like 6’4-5 those heights while rare are a bit more common than the latter. Maybe in Europe it’s different as the men there are taller than average certainty in a Dutch or Nordic Country. For instance, I’m visiting Switzerland and Austria and I’ve seen a couple 6’4-6’6 guys but only a handful this is more than i see back in the United States.
K.A 188 ! said on 12/Aug/19
@MYSELF
I live in Parma
Greg said on 12/Aug/19
@Canson Yeah don’t get me wrong it’s a cool website and all but too much toxicity and stupidity over there. I feel like the term manlet is always thrown out there just like certain morons on here
Sakz said on 12/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson I know I said it's the start of tall.
Ben said on 12/Aug/19
@Jdubbz - lol no, I measured him.
Nik Ashton said on 11/Aug/19
@ Connor Simpson - Too true!
Myself said on 11/Aug/19
@K.A
Ah ok. But I guess the afro also makes you look taller too.
I personally don't think I have really good tall/lanky proportions or anything, despite me being now at my all-time (adult life of course) low of 93 kg, but I still got guessed today for the third time above 2 meters (lol, at 192.5-8 cm, although I often am around 193.1 when i come back from a 1-1.5 hour walk 5 hours out of bed). Of course those weren't the most deeply thought guesses ever, nor they were given by the most "competent" guessers, but still, dam... (Btw I was also casually guessed at around 2 meters like 3 other times, but yeah, lol)

In which Italian city do you live? I am in Rimini.
Luca said on 11/Aug/19
Dear Rob, I ascertained that my extreme low height is basically a hair over 188,7 cm, which I reached twice or max 3 times in over a year.
Since that what height should I claim to be if someone asks to me?
Editor Rob
Still say 189cm. Even saying 190cm won't raise eyebrows.

188cm would be too low a claim I feel, you'd get far more people raising their eyebrows if you say that.
Prog King said on 11/Aug/19
@c-mo, i agree with this, but i would bump it up to 185 cm when taking into account young white men. At 6'0 i definetely feel in that transition zone a good number of times. With lifts i get up to 6'1 and definetly feel tall walking around, not the tallest in the room, but still tall enough for daily life
Nik said on 11/Aug/19
@ K.A 188 ! - I agree!
K.A 188 ! said on 11/Aug/19
@CHRISTIAN
I think when measuring yes it does add a bit because the ruler does not rest on the scalp. But with a stadiometer that can compress the hair and touch the scalp then the measurement should be more precise.
Greg said on 11/Aug/19
@Pov I agree the Dutch are insanely tall every other guy i saw whilst in Amsterdam was over 6’0, in Austria/Bavaria guys are also really tall I felt barely average at 5’10.5 179cm, sometimes above other times very low if not average. There where many 6 footers I think you would have to be a minimum of 6’0 to feel above average and 6’1-6’2 to feel tall.
Greg said on 11/Aug/19
@Canson the one that I responded to you.

@Jddubz I beg to differ maybe that’s just your gym, I don’t know any 6’7 guys off of the top of my head. 6’7 is a very rare height. There used to be a guy at my gym who’s around your height maybe a bit taller and he hasn’t showed up in a while. I did see a 6’8-6’9 guy once at my gym it was a Young kid too but that was the first time I ever saw that. Otherwise it would be once a year at an airport or something I’ll see a 6’7-6’8 guy. While not impossible but a 6’7 guy can go almost years without seeing someone their height or taller at least in America when I say their height I mean 6’6ish-6’7 not like 6’4-5 those heights while rare are a bit more common than the latter. Maybe in Europe it’s different as the men there are taller than average certainty in a Dutch or Nordic Country. For instance, I’m visiting Switzerland and Austria and I’ve seen a couple 6’4-6’6 guys but only a handful this is more than i see back in the United States.
Bobby 178cm said on 11/Aug/19
@C-Mo

I wouldn't class 175 and 181 in the same category honestly. A good solid 5'11 is going to be seen as much more desirable a height to be as opposed to 5'9 even if the difference is 2 inches. On that same note, I would classify 170-175 as medium, maybe 176 at a push. I would classify 177 to 181 as above average and 182 up to 186 as tall.
Importer said on 11/Aug/19
Sorry bad English on my last comment, I only meant to say that it’s untold of.
K.A 188 ! said on 11/Aug/19
@REDWING
I remember very well my height in 2014 summer because it was during the fifa world cup.
I was 16 going to 17 years, I measured 181cm before school ended and 3 months after in september I measure 186cm barefoot and weighed 5 kg more.
Then from 17 to 19 I added full inch measuring 188.4 at noon.
I was always tallish in my early things but really grew more in my late teens. Between i am not American, i am an Italian citizen as i explained in my previous post.
K.A 188 ! said on 11/Aug/19
@REDWING
I remember very well my height in 2014 summer because it was during the fifa world cup.
I was 16 going to 17 years, I measured 181cm before school ended and 3 months after in september I measure 186cm barefoot and weighed 5 kg more.
Then from 17 to 19 I added full inch measuring 188.4 at noon.
I was always tallish in my early things but really grew more in my late teens. Between i am not American, i am an Italian citizen as i explained in my previous post.
Johan 185 cm said on 11/Aug/19
Canson said on 8/Aug/19
I saw something very interesting today in an article. The seven countries with the tallest people

Czech Republic, Latvia, Estonia, Belgium, Serbia, Denmark, Netherlands (back to front). So I guess what someone said earlier about the Netherlands having that is the truth

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Yes and thats what I have said many times here on General. I work in Belgium and out of the neighbouring countries they are the tallest compared to The Netherlands.

Although Flanders is taller than Wallonia. I guessed their height as 5'10.5" in Flanders and 5'9.5" in Wallonia. The women average 5'5.5"-5'6".
Canson said on 11/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: yea in my case 6’7” would be too tall. Doorways mainly but also tighter fits in vehicles and headroom. I think once you get over 6’2” it gets more expensive. Even a very long legged 6’2” guy may have to shop at a big and tall and have a hard time if he’s built like I am at 6’4”
Canson said on 11/Aug/19
@Ben: your friend looks like he has the proportions of a 6’4-6’5 range guy too. Although he is pretty thin as well
Canson said on 11/Aug/19
@Greg: I feel you about Bodybuilding.com. I’m on that site myself and I see a lot of guys there that act out
Canson said on 11/Aug/19
@Greg: lol no problem! Which post?
Greg said on 11/Aug/19
@Importer 720’s look sick honestly, they won’t be hard to walk in and nah they give as much of the boost because most shoes with flexible heels don’t make you walk shorter, even after wear and tear they will probably give you about 1.5 inches which is more than Shox I might get a pair they look comfortable.
Editor Rob

If you want a decent boost of height, they are comfortable sneakers.
Greg said on 11/Aug/19
@Jddubz you see what I mean though? 👀😂 now another thing that I find funny is Arthur wants to come at me for that yet let’s not forget he was the one who got banned before for calling a user a manlet. This isn’t the misc teen section of Bodybuilding.com like this is celeb heights for Christ sake. So why is it not okay for Arthur to use that term but not Ajax. Not that I care because it’s an ironic/moronic statement at that point but seriously #Double standards if I could locate Big G in the streets of New York i would let him loose here to sort anybody and everybody out.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Aug/19
@K.A
Did hair have any affect on your measurement? It didn't with me. One point I had long hair, almost an afro but not quite, and at one point was almost bald, but no difference between the two measurements.
Redwing said on 10/Aug/19
KA 188@

That is a tall height, And a cool mix of ethnic groups that you are tbh. How tall were you tho at the age of 18? I was sorta average standing at 180 cm. Now I’m 3 inches taller, Are you an US citizen?
Importer said on 10/Aug/19
Do you guys believe that bright NBA players are given access to additional HGH hormones during peak of puberty to grow to around 7’0”? It’s untold of but I only heard this.
Importer said on 10/Aug/19
Do you guys believe that nba players use additional hgh during peak of puberty to grow to around 7’0”? It’s untold of but I only heard this.
Ben said on 10/Aug/19
@Cmillz - He does look very tall and is called very tall by most even in Sweden. He's currently shooting season 2 of a tv show and said he was guessed as 6'5" a few days ago by the crew. He has a v-shape body with very broad shoulders which might help him look very tall.

Here's a still from the show where he's in a crowd from season 1(he's on the far left): Click Here

Here's a video of him in that crowd: Click Here

And here's a picture which shows you he's a broad guy and pretty muscular: Click Here

As a bonus here's my friend who's an actual 6'4.5"-6'4.75" guy (that guy is heading into that extremely tall range with boots on). He might be just about a cm, or a few mm under a cm, taller than @Canson: Click Here
Importer said on 10/Aug/19
Ouch wasn’t aware of the drama.
c-mo said on 10/Aug/19
height chart for men . I am VERY sure that it is realistic give or take a bit

all heights are supposed to be evening heights and centimeters and it is meant to be for caucasian males between ages 20 - 50 or so :


the heights where I didnt write anything about are meant to be "borderline/transition heights" between the both categories that are above / below them


220 + : big giant . at this height there is a big chance that your height is known in your country or even worldwide . "even" at 218cm the dutch giant is known . needless to say that at such extreme heights there will be a handful of people on the whole world that will be around your height

218 - 219 :

211 - 217 : "small" (lol) giant

209 - 210 :

202 - 208 : huge or unusually tall

200 - 201 :

193 - 199 : very tall

191 - 192 :

184 - 190 : tall

182 - 183 :

175 - 181 : Medium

173 - 174 :

166 - 172 : short

164 - 165 :

158 - 163 : very short

156 - 157 :

149 - 155 : extremely short

147 - 148 : borderline dwarf

below 147 : dwarfism


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the transition zones of each 2cm are good becuase they allow you make proper categories where you transition smoothly without the problem of jumping from one category into another without having a buffer zone .
Jdubbz said on 10/Aug/19
@Greg: 6’7 isn’t as rare as you think, and at that point each additional inch becomes exponentially rarer. At my gym alone I usually see a guy my height, a 6’7 range guy and a guy who has me by 2-3 inches. These are the only people of that size I regularly see, but a 6’7 guy wouldn’t have to go years to see someone his height or taller.
Connor Simpson said on 10/Aug/19
@Sakz Of course 6'0 is tall theres no doubt about it, it's like 3-4 inches above the average height, at least 3 inches.
pov said on 10/Aug/19
@c-mo whilst I was at university, I did my work placement year in the Netherlands in a city called Breda (Near Rotterdam) I was there for 14 months. I am from the UK and I’m 184cm barefoot most of the day, I lived in a student accommodation with 3 dutch flatmates and 1 Bulgarian one, all of my dutch flatmates were taller than me, I asked how tall they were and they all gave heights ranging from 186cm-194. Even when attending meetings and walking in the street, I was slightly below average. If you have never been there it is hard to believe the average height of a country is so much more than the rest of the world , but I suggest you visit, Amsterdam won’t really give you a good idea as it’s full of tourists and multicultural. Try going Rotterdam, Breda, Eidenhoven, Utrecht, and you will understand they are a nation of giants!
Jdubbz said on 10/Aug/19
@Canson: We probably disagree on this point, but I’d rather be too tall (within reason) than not tall enough and try to compensate via artificial means. I’d choose 6’7 over anything under 6’2 and 6’8 over
Lell said on 10/Aug/19
In my opinion I'd call 6'2" tall.

6'0" is definitely above average and you will be one of the taller ones most of the time, but it's not tall enough to be considered "The tall guy" really.

My opinion of tall is when you kind of stand out more, get more comments and usually is the tallest in the room, which I guess happens at 6'2" more often. 6'/6'1" is more tallish.

In other countries I would definitely say that 180 cm+ is tall. I traveled recently and I was legit one of the tallest around tourists (I'm between 179-80 cm) which was a huge difference compared to where I come from where most are my height.

So if you're short: Move to another country, simple XD
ajax509 said on 10/Aug/19
When we speak in terms of young adults (afternoon height) this would be my classification:

very tall 190cm
tall 187cm
tallish 184cm
average 178cm
shortish 172cm
short 169cm
very short 166cm
Jug said on 9/Aug/19
Rob,

If my elevator boots make me 6'5, how tall would I appear to most people--6'4? Do we generally take into consideration that everyone around us is already wearing about an inch over their barefoot height? I guess typical footwear makes most men three quarters of an inch to an inch taller.
Editor Rob
Yes, you definitely would look that kind of 6ft 4 range to most people, even taller at times from people who aren't aware of a genuine 6ft 4.
mrtguy said on 9/Aug/19
Rob, how tall does the guy look on the left to you??
Click Here
Editor Rob
Looks over 5 inches taller than the shorter fellow, so over average range
Jdubbz said on 9/Aug/19
@cmillzz: yeah I find it hard to believe as well. Perhaps Ben is underestimating others and the “6’2” guys he’s seeing are really like 6’4 or 6’5. Otherwise it makes no sense, since 6’2 is just tall in the US and probably the equivalent of 6’0-6’1 in Sweden. That’s a far cry from very tall.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Aug/19
@Canson
I've never imagined that Czech Republic and Belgium are in the top 7 tallest countries. I thought it would've been the Scandinavian countries like Norway, Sweden or Finland. Surprised that none of the three are on the list.
LDS said on 9/Aug/19
@Nik. That's probably about right to be fair as I think it works out at just over 5 foot 5 for 10% percentile. That height and below always comes across as very small for a guy.

It really is all semantics though to be honest. I don't personally but you could technically argue that 5 foot 10 for a guy is "tall". 5 foot 10 is more than the average height which is literally the definition of "tall" (heights based on the UK). However nobody is going to look at a guy who's 5 foot 10 and say "wow he's tall".
Ellis said on 9/Aug/19
@Canson: I meant wouldn't it, I was trying to imply that 6'7 is the height that would be taller than every single girl with heels, not 5'9 lmao, just in case you didn't get it, my bad.
@Christian 6'5 3/8: Yeah I'm starting to agree with you, I would definitely take 6'7 over 5'9, for 6'8 that is kinda a toss up, but I would still probably go with 6'8. Idk, maybe if 5'9 was higher to like 6'2, because I would probably take 6'10 over 5'9 tbch.
mrfunnyguy said on 9/Aug/19
@cmillzz I agree with you that 6'2 isn't "very tall", but merely "tall". Since most people wouldn't even call 6'2 "very tall" in the US, 6'4 can't be called "very tall" in Sweden, because the difference in average height between the US and Sweden is about two inches I think. I assume "very tall" in the US starts at 6'3, which means that "very tall" in Sweden must be 6'5 and taller.
Jdubbz said on 9/Aug/19
@Greg: Lmao I’ll admit to that 😂😂😂
Importer said on 9/Aug/19
@Arthur! I agree I like celebh's pg factor.
Importer said on 9/Aug/19
@cmillzz I seen those 720s, imo looks a bit weird. I think your going to walk shorter in those due to its flexible heel.
Sakz said on 9/Aug/19
@K.A 188! You could make a case for that aswell considering it's very close to 6'0. Most in that position would also just claim 6'0.
Sakz said on 9/Aug/19
@Prog King Yeah that's about right. I would say 6'0 is just the start of tall.
K.A 188 ! said on 9/Aug/19
@MYSELF
My measurements are all before i grew my hair. When i kept my hair short and trim . But is been over a almost a year ever since i measured myself.
Straightout out of bed i am 190.1 and my absolute lowest i have ever measured after 8 hours of work is usually 187.6 .I have a wardrobe that measures exactly 192.5 so i often marked my height on it ,so am few milimeters over 6ft2 during the day at 188.4 .
I did atletica(track and field sports) while growing up as teenager so maybe that helped in growing, i am in my early twenties now though.

I am actually a Mulatto (half Italian and Nigerian) so i got the nice afro. ...but i just happen to look like an afro Brazilian or Dominican lol..anyways as I have said before i don't even consider myself very tall but at times i can really stand out i just feel like 6ft2 is the begining of "standing out " is like
a "bridge height " if you have a nice proportion like in my case broad shoulders and long wingspan (My wingspan is 201cm which is equivalent to Michael Phelps's wingspan)
So in my opinion proportion play a big role in what we perceive as tall.
Connor Simpson said on 9/Aug/19
@Greg Exactly Arthur has done worse things than what you said about the d**k thing, Arthur is such a massive hypocrite he's a joke.
Greg said on 9/Aug/19
@Importer Yeah me too probably 6’2.5 at a compromise though if I was 6’1 range I wouldn’t mind at all.
Greg said on 9/Aug/19
@cmillzz Lol Ben’s right, 6’2 is a very tall height. It’s not extremely uncommon but how many 6’2 people do you know and see every day? I have friends who are 6’2 range and they get referred to as very tall. That’s over 5 inches the U.S male average.
Johan 185 cm said on 9/Aug/19
Csimpson6ft said on 4/Aug/19
What grade do you guys think my height is? Id give it a B+ i feel 6'0 is a fairly good height but it's nothing special, an A+ for me would be 6'1 or 6'2, definitely 6'2.

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I agree with 6' being B+ but I would make a range say :

6'-6'1 B+
6'1'-6'2" A
6'2"-6'3" A+

And then going back so

6'3-6'4" A
6'4-6'5" B+

So maybe 6'5-6'6" would be a B and also 5'11"-6'.

6'6-6'7" and 5'10-5'11" being C+ and the last heights I personally wouldn't mind being.
K.A 188 ! said on 9/Aug/19
@Cmillzz
how tall are you?
Canson said on 9/Aug/19
@Cmillz: there are a lot of ways to look taller. That’s why I’ve always been an advocate of it’s harder to lose height than gain
Emil said on 9/Aug/19
@LDS

I agree - the 90% percentile in Denmark is 190 cm for men (which is probably 189 at normal low since most people are measured earlier in the day), and I really don't think you stand out in terms of height until you hit that mark.
I myself measured 184 cm last time I went to the doctor, but I claim 183 since that's my normal low, and that corresponds to the 68-69 % percentile here in Denmark.
Greg said on 9/Aug/19
@Christian aren’t you still a towering giant at 6’7? You could walk around for years and not find anyone taller than you. I think the jump from 6’7-6’8 isn’t much both are very tall heights.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
Sorry if I misunderstood you. I swear that I read "6'2-6'3" instead of "6'1-6'2" in one of your posts though.

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