General Height

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Sakz said on 16/Jan/20
@Canson Yeah I would say that's fair. I put 6'6 as the bare minimum because it's 9 inches above the overall average, which is more than just 'very tall' I would say. You're pretty much a whole heads length taller to put it into perspective.
InsecureTeen said on 16/Jan/20
@Mark I feel okay about it, I rarely see girls taller than me unless they're pretty tall in heels. In my college campus though, there's plenty of really tall guys that are 6'4-6'8+ but it doesn't bother me anymore, I'm taller/equal to most people. At most I would like 2-3 more cm but I'm fine where I am..
chevy said on 16/Jan/20
@christian what height do you think is the start of extreme tall for men in the us?
177.8cm said on 15/Jan/20
@rob so I had an x ray of my spine and saw that all my spinal growth plates were shut except for number 2 and 3 which were barely open (see image for number 2 and 3) how much height would one gain when those final two close completely?

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Editor Rob
I don't know exactly, but a Doctor is the best to ask about any x-ray you have.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 15/Jan/20
InSecure Teen...you could say 6ft2 in public and no one would second guess it....but on here you'd be classified as a bit over 6ft1
Canson said on 15/Jan/20
@Sakz: I’d say at around 6’6.5 that would work for extremely tall. Meaning maybe 6’6 5/8 or even 3/4 lunchtime being they stand to lose more
Parker said on 15/Jan/20
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Jan/20
@chevy
I forgot to mention gigantism and other pituitary gland disorders. But other than that, a normal healthy person can't grow beyond his max genetic potential.

My best friend is 5'4 and his wife 5'6. Their son is 6'3.
Mark O' Connor said on 15/Jan/20
@Christian 6'5 3/8" I measured again and my eyelevel is 173.5, so is still quite low but no to much I think...
Mark O' Connor said on 15/Jan/20
@InsecureTeen same height as me, how do you feel heightwise if I can ask?
AndrewV said on 15/Jan/20
@Ere

5'8" is in the average range for the general population at the 35th-40th percentile, but around young white adults it's at the 25th percentile. I wouldn't really call 5'8" a short height overall but around young white people in the US and UK you will have many instances of feeling short.
Progking said on 15/Jan/20
@Mark O Connor, i usually measure 183.5-184 cm in the evening and get a 171 cm eye level, i think i am measuring a bit wrong though. 13 cm is a bit rare(over 5 inches), maybe try measuring again
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Jan/20
@chevy
I forgot to mention gigantism and other pituitary gland disorders. But other than that, a normal healthy person can't grow beyond his max genetic potential.

@Kellan
What you said is pretty much correct. The average height varies by state. In some northern Midwestern states, it could be as tall as 5'10", and the shrotst ones are barely 5'8". I live in Cali, and it's probably one of the shortest, as it doesn't feel much over 5'8", maybe 5'8.5" at a stretch, but no more.

@Mark O'Connor
Yeah, it's possible, but there aren't too many 186 guys with 13cm eye levels. It's definitely much longer than average.
InsecureTeen said on 14/Jan/20
186cm at night, 188cm out of bed, 186-187 during most of the day. What should I claim my height is in feet and inches? also would 187cm be good? 188? 186?
Greg said on 14/Jan/20
@6footTom Yeah I have that too, I always witness guys between 5’9-5’11 claim 6’0, and when I say 5’11 I mean closer to 5’11 flat rather than 6’0. I’ve had someone ask me if I was 6’0 before when I’m over an inch a half shorter than that. And people try to inflate me saying that I “have to be taller” even though I’ve measured myself more times then they did, as much as I would love to be taller unfortunately that is not the case. Also I noticed guys who can’t pull off boosting to 6’0, will just boost to 5’10 or 5’11, like guys between 5’7-5’9. With the exception of 2 5’9ish guys I’ve met before that tried to say they where 6’0, I immediately called them out and they refused to believe the truth. There are 2 kids in mind who are like 5’10 more or less and both try to say 6’0, the one kid tried to say 6’1, and I was like “what do you mean 6’1?” And he tried going back to 6’0 and I said no way, I might have even edged the guy out that was the funny part. As 6 footers sometimes they will say 6’1-6’2 it really depends. Guys in the 5’11 range bracket might try to sneak a 6’1 claim which is funny they think they wouldn’t get called out. That’s why everyone thinks different of all those marks. 5’10 is also the go to for most guys between 5’7-5’8 because it’s like the minimal excepted height in society. It’s a strange system really.
Greg said on 14/Jan/20
@Canson Yeah I’m 24, so haven’t grown since 18, it’s both good and bad having a bad posture well it’s good in the sense that i can bring out ‘hidden height’ through stretches and stuff. Bad is because I’ve developed damaged discs and the posture to begin with. And yeah my pattern constantly changes because not every single night will get a good quality sleep, or sometimes I’ll do more training. On the other hand, I could optimize everything on some days and have more of a relaxed days so measure taller.
Greg said on 14/Jan/20
@Kellan you must not really be 6’0 if you really feel average in the U.S among young white folks. I don’t understand where people get this false perception of the white American average. From what I observed it’s probably 5’9ish at most. I’m just under 5’11 and I feel tallish/above average amongst young white guys. If you’re 6’0 feet you should be feeling tall. There’s really not that many guys 6’0 or over, it’s 83rd percentile that’s no where near average.
Greg said on 14/Jan/20
@Christian yeah think of it this way, depending on your own goal whether it be maintenance, weight loss or gain you have to adjust your calories and macros accordingly. But of course you should be taking in the minimum nutritional needs. Yeah like for me I feel like I need at least 4-6 decently portioned meals to gain weight, my metabolism is pretty fast plus I’m highly active but somebody else might need only 1 or 2, however they would have to be very caloric dense meals.
AndrewV said on 14/Jan/20
@Kellan
Broadly speaking, 6'0" in the US is:
75th percentile around young white and black guys
80th percentile around young people of all races
84th percentile in the general population
95th percentile for young Asians and Hispanics

It's the start of tall, where as 6'1" would be solid tall (85th percentile around young white and black guys).
Myself said on 14/Jan/20
@Canson @Rob
Lately I've been going to the commercial center and to the town center quite a few times per week and tbh I still only saw like 1 person very close in height (looked like a German tourist) and another guy a little shorter than me...I see people 6'6-7+ like 3 times a year.
Sakz said on 14/Jan/20
@Luke Heinz If you don't want to claim the half just say 'about 5'10' because you'll be hovering around the mark for a good portion of the day. The main thing is you're rounding, not inflating.

@Chevy I would say 6'6 as the bare minimum but once you become 2m tall (pretty much 6'7) that's when you're definitely extremely tall.
anonymus pc9 said on 14/Jan/20
@Kellan yea, thats how average works
Bego said on 14/Jan/20
@Kellan Where do you live?
Emil said on 14/Jan/20
@Mark O' Connor

Definitely possible although your eye level would be a tad low
Equal said on 13/Jan/20
@Sean William Winter As of 1/13/2020, I measure 5’7 7/8 or 172.4 cm, so more or less 5’8. I started showing these signs of growth at around mid-December, when I was 5’7 1/2, and I turned 19 last August.
Ere said on 13/Jan/20
Rob do you get grief for being 5'8 irl do people call you short? A strong 5'8 seems solid average in uk I am 174cm and get some short comments but only from people who seem to have a problem with me. There's no way it can be short average is 5'9 and you definitely do not look short to me
Editor Rob
Very rarely would I hear anything like that, and maybe it is more of a bit of banter/humour.

Maybe with younger guys/girls and a wider circle of friends you would hear more comments like that.

Definitely those people that have issues with you would look for something to attack you with, and height might be one of the things that is obvious to them.
Canson said on 13/Jan/20
@Rob: unless I go into the city, I typically don’t see anyone taller than me at 6’4” with the exception of the Couple colleagues who are taller
Editor Rob
Yeah it depends how many people you are walking by during a day. We do go out to the big shopping centre every day and so are probably seeing a fair amount of people, but it is very rare for us to see 6ft 8 or taller in our town, and still quite rare that 6ft 6-8 range.

Going into the city (Glasgow, about 10 miles away) increase the amount of folk you see and there are definitely more sightings of very very tall 6ft 6+ people....
Obsessed With Height said on 13/Jan/20
@Triplescrew Well I don't have a tape measure, I did find a ruler though, turna out I'm 1.5 CMs taller
making me 173 (5'8)
since I'm actually 171.5 at my lowest, I said 171 cm to make it sound fair :P
Kellan said on 13/Jan/20
At 6’0 I can feel average when around young / white guys but feel somewhat tall in the general population in the US as almost all women and 80% of men are shorter. The 5’9 average seems correct but can vary by state, closer to 5’10 in the midwest and 5’8 in areas with larger nonwhite population.
Mark O' Connor said on 13/Jan/20
Is possible to measure 186 cm with a 173 cm eye level?
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Jan/20
@Greg
What you said is true. But even people with faster metabolisms can only eat 1 or 2 meals per day, if they have enough willpower and patience.

@chevy
There's really no exceeding beyond your max potential. One can grow up with having the best nutrition and healthcare in the world, but if his max genetic potential is 5'6" for example, then he won't end up taller than 5'6". The only way you can maybe exceed your potential, is if you were bred in a lab, lol.
Sakz said on 13/Jan/20
@Vsquad On the flip side though you won't be described as short, unless you're surrounded by people a lot taller. In fact you'll rarely even be towered unless 6'4+ is common is where you live. Nowadays those are two big factors considering the emphasis on being tall.
Canson said on 13/Jan/20
6footTom said on 8/Jan/20
@Some anonymous person

A legit 6'0" is quite tall to a lot of people. But because the media treats 6'0" as the standard male height and a lot of 5'10" - 5'11" guys tend to claim 6'0" people don't really consider that number tall and we tend to forget just how tall a legit 6'0" guy can look. I'm the same height and I recently had an interesting exchange with a classmate who asked me about my height.

Classmate: "Wait, how tall are you?"
Me: "I'm around 6 feet."
Classmate: "Really? I thought you were taller than that."
Me: "Yeah, I get that one a lot."
Classmate: "Oh, well at least it's nice that you appear tall."

The last bit is interesting because she was more or less suggesting that she would have considered me as tall if I hadn't told her what my real height was. But now that the cat's out of the bag, I only "appear" tall. It kind of goes to show how 6'0" has become somewhat of an undervalued height these days.

I’ve gotten the you look taller than that a lot. Imagine being a strong 6’4”And constantly being asked if I’m taller
Canson said on 13/Jan/20
@Greg: I wasn’t 100% sure if you still were In college. Yea in your case your pattern will change. You’ll go to being 5’10.5 after two hours and 5’10.25 afternoon (7 or 8) if you wake up 5’11
Delvin chung said on 13/Jan/20
Where does a 5'11 1/2 reach on a 6'3 guy
Editor Rob
Should be above eyebrow a bit, but not that much.
Triplescrew said on 12/Jan/20
@Obsessed With Height

Impossible to say with camera angles. Why not just take out a tape measure and see for yourself?
Triplescrew said on 12/Jan/20
@Luke Heinz

I would just say "almost 5'10"." That's good enough for most people in most situations.
Sean william Winter said on 12/Jan/20
wake up just over 180 cm. evening hold steady at 5'10.25 so anywere from 178.5 to 178.7 cm.
Sean william Winter said on 12/Jan/20
its liek this 5'3 guy wants 5'5 guy wants to b 5'7 guy wants to be 5'9 wants to be 5'11 wants to be 6'1 wna b 6ft 3/ lol/
Sean william Winter said on 12/Jan/20
equal what are you 173 cm? my normal low is 178.5 178.7 cm a strong 5'10. how old are you maybe you can still grow a 2 inches or so.
chevy said on 12/Jan/20
@everyone What height do you think is the start of extreme tall for men?
chevy said on 12/Jan/20
@rob What height do you think is the start of extreme tall for men?
Editor Rob
Up to 6ft 6 I think I can see, but once into 6ft 7-8 range it becomes (from my point) extremely tall and I sometimes might go a week without seeing somebody that tall in my town.
Luke Heinz said on 11/Jan/20
Rob, I am 5’9.5 at my lowest, and wake up at 5’10.25. I claim 5’9, but I’m starting to think that I’m downgrading myself a little, since when I tell people I’m 5’9 they give me weird looks. What do you think I should claim?
Editor Rob
I think half inch over a mark at a low...and then rounding down is probably going to make a few folk raise an eyebrow.

Saying 5ft 9 and a half would be fair. It's an extra second really to add 'and a half'. Some don't like claiming fractions though.
AhvazIran said on 11/Jan/20
I am from North Western Asia( Iran, Turkey and Caucasus that includes Azerbaijan, Georgia and Armenia), I am 177cm tall, and below is the height chart for our North western Asian countries for youth aged 18-30 males.
Less than 165cm- Very Short
165cm-167cm- Short
168cm-170cm- Shortish
171cm- 173cm- Lower Average Zone
174cm- 177cm- Average Zone
178cm- 180cm- Higher Average Zone
181cm- 183cm- Tallish
184cm- 186cm- Tall
187cm and above - Very Tall
Anybody from Western Asia to comment on my height chart?
George89 said on 11/Jan/20
@Nikashton I live in Dorset on the South Coast. You?
Obsessed With Height said on 11/Jan/20
If the black mark is 171 cm, how tall would I be now, the blue Mark is my newest measurement, the black mark was made right after I woke up last month and the blue mark was made today, in the evening, I measured once more and the mark was about 3 mms higher than the blue mark shown in the pics.
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Nik Ashton said on 11/Jan/20
@ Equal - 5’8” is just as average as 5’10”!
Bobby 1.78m (5ft 10in) said on 11/Jan/20
@Equal

I'm 5'10, it's a nice height and you'll honestly feel above average at that height, but I would like to be 2-3 inches taller. Ideally, 6'1.25 which I consider a solid 6'1.
Greg said on 11/Jan/20
@Christian yeah but the thing is different people have different body and fitness goals, so what one person might consider good for their digestive system or maybe bodytype might be different from the next. So yeah you’re not wrong but Inter fasting is only for a different type of goal and works better with other body types that don’t have a fast metabolism, for example for me it wouldn’t work. Some bodybuilders do high carbs or low carbs but high protein, most of them that is. But diets different from individuals.
Greg said on 11/Jan/20
@Progking Yeah I know what you mean I feel tallish here in America, white guys definitely do not average more than 5’9 and even then I don’t see many guys close to or over 5’9 like there a few obviously and taller than that but for my observation in many different places that’s what I noticed. Yeah I think 5’10-5’11 range is tallish here. If I didn’t stunt my growth I think I could have ended up at least a legit 5’11 maybe 6’0 or close. Yeah it’s nice to be 6’0 in boots despite it not being legit 😂
Greg said on 11/Jan/20
@Equal While there no particularly good heights or bad ones, there might be some preferred heights. You have guys like Khaled Taban who think 5’9 is short or not good enough when in fact it’s perfectly average, you or Rob at 5’8 are low average in most places, girls wouldn’t be calling you short, but you’re right. 5’10 is just slightly above average in most places, I think an ideal height might be between 5’10-6’2 give or take. But that’s just my opinion.

@Canson so I think I’m 5’11 exactly out of bed this could vary more or less depending on the quality of sleep I get and how hydrated I am during the time being. I’ve been doing these ‘posture correction exercises advised to me by my chiropractor which could increase my height a little bit, it’s not growth however it’s ‘hidden height’ I have damaged discs and terrible posture which causes me to slightly under measure s bit. So I’ve been doing exercises and combined with glucosamine it’s really been helping me. Generally on a non relaxed day I will drop to my low really quickly so while carrying a heavy school bag and walking around for hours I could measure 5’10.25-5’10 3/8ths. That day I was just walking around and laying down every now and then. But I had to measure myself many times to make sure it was the right figure but I double checked and it was 5’10 5/8ths, 5’10.5 is usually what I am in the afternoon. Oh and I don’t wake up at 6-7am, for college I wake up around 10-11am but usually I wake up around 12pmish, so I mean 2-3 hours out of bed I’m 5’10.5 in 5 hours I would be closer to my low usually.
Bobby 1.78m (5ft 10in) said on 11/Jan/20
@George98

We have similar stats. I also wake up at 179cm, but I can fall further than 177.5cm, down to 177.2cm normally. Although I claim 178cm anyway and don't give a hoot if anyone calls me out for it. I can technically fall to 176.5-7cm at an absolute low but this happens rarely. Also depending on sleep and hydration, my morning height can be reduced by a fraction. You might actually measure a fraction taller than me in the morning, perhaps 5'10 5/8s.
Nik Ashton said on 11/Jan/20
@ Triplescrew - I like your name!
Equal said on 10/Jan/20
@Greg I say 5’10 or 5’9 are ideal heights (at least for me) because it’s certainly better than my roughly 5’8. I don’t necessarily care about being tall, I just want to don’t want to be 5’8. I’m perfectly content with an average stature. And I say this because I know for a fact that if a girl rejects because I’m “short”, I know she’s full of baloney cause I’m either towering her and/or incredibly shallow to place importance over something like that.
Equal said on 10/Jan/20
@Greg I say 5’10 or 5’9 are ideal heights (at least for me) because it’s certainly better than my roughly 5’8. I don’t necessarily care about being tall, I just want to don’t want to be 5’8. I’m perfectly content with an average stature. And I say this because I know for a fact that if a girl rejects because I’m “short”, I know she’s full of baloney cause I’m either towering her and/or incredibly shallow to place importance over something like that.
Triplescrew said on 10/Jan/20
@6footTom

I think you're reading too much into that exchange. She responded to what you said, that you "get that one a lot," implying it's a minor annoyance to have your height misjudged as being higher than it is. She replied with "well at least it means people think you appear to be tall," meaning that you should take their guesses as a compliment, not necessarily that 6foot isn't supposed to appear tall.
Sakz said on 10/Jan/20
@Progking Facial proportions aren't an accurate way to determine height because everyone's head size varies. They are a good indicator to determine how other people will perceive your height though, just as eye level would. 7 inches is closer to my upper lip and I have an average sized head. You're right that it can appear anywhere between 6 and 7 inches, and that depends on your head size.

@6footTom Purely based on what you said, the impression I get is she just thought you were taller rather than hinting you're not tall at 6'0. It is the bare minimum in terms of how tall they desire men to be after all. However, it has become an undervalued height now and a lot of women don't know how tall a 6 footer really is, mainly due to inflation.
Kaan said on 10/Jan/20
@Rob
Do you think that If someone works out.Doing Exercises like squats or deadlifts which can heavily Compress the spine.Can permanently make you shorter,If done often and with heavy wheight?Or Is it just for that particular day?
Editor Rob
Workouts or intense weight sessions will push your discs to levels they normally don't expect, and maybe make you measure an extreme low...but your discs can recover after some rest period. Prolonged (years) of really heavy weights (like deadlifts) might increase risks of some degeneration to the discs.
George98 said on 10/Jan/20
@rob Just right out of bed i measure exactly 179cm. I stay about 1-2 hours this tall. Than most of the day I stand at 178cm. In the end doesn't matter whether i jog or not, which i do pretty much everyday, i can go as low as 177,5cm ,but never lower,at least now(I'm 21 years old).I used stadiometer to check all above mentioned figures. So my question would be what height should i claim and how can I maintain my peak height as long as possible? Thanks in advance.
Editor Rob
You don't fall to 5ft 9.5, so I think a claim of 5ft 10 is fair for you.
FiveEightJake said on 10/Jan/20
@Chevy

I think possibly 2-3 inches. My dad is nearly 5’10 and mum is 5’6, I’m only 5’8.5, my two brothers are 5’8 and 6’

My 6’ brother basically did all the right things, exercised everyday, ate well. Me and my 5’8 brother probably didn’t eat as well as we could have, we did do enough exercise I’d say but I avoided vegetables and milk until I was about 17 and by then it was too late for me to grow anymore, I didn’t even become height conscious until last year at the age of 23 lol.

It’s all just guess work really though, my brother may have been that tall regardless, and I may have actually maximised my potential as I do have quite small hands and feet for my height. I may have only been destined for 5’6-5’7 as my size 7 feet suggest :o (btw there is no correlation between feet size and you know what)
Bobby 178cm said on 10/Jan/20
@MtFunnyGuy

I doubt very much that women are as tall as you are. Are you sure you're not like 5'9 or whatever? You have the attitude of a man many inches shorter than yourself. I'd be pleased to be 6'1.
Canson said on 10/Jan/20
Greg said on 7/Jan/20
@Equal 5’10 is ok but I think 5’11.5-6’0 range is better a decent 5’10 though does look tallish from my personal experience as I touch 5’11 first thing out of bed and am 5’10.5/5’10 5/8ths in the noon but I will say this it is a pretty decent height you will be close to 6’0 in most shoes and reach 6’0 in boots.

@Greg: that’s an odd pattern. By noon do you mean 5 hours after waking? The average person loses about 5/8” from the time they wake until lunch. Are you a solid 5’11 or a hair over when you wake up? I could see maybe 5’10 1/2 lunchtime from 5’11 1/8” maybe. But in some cases if someone lays reclined it may cause them to maintain height. I’ve lost Almost all of mine within about 3 hours before once or twice from going to the gym in the AM and lifting where I lost it in two that time and once I went jogging and measured
Progking said on 10/Jan/20
@Triplescrew my eye level is 5'7 at 6'0 so im on the low side, 5'7-5'7.75 covers most of them.
Nik Ashton said on 10/Jan/20
I like your m-e-a-s-u-r-e-d!
yo123 said on 10/Jan/20
i am 18 years and 8 months old and at the moment i am somewhere in between 189190 cm in the morning but id say more like 189.2189.6 cm and my normal midday height is somewhere between 188.5189 cm. and my night height is 188 flat. my dad is 6 feet tall, his brothers range from 6'to 6'4. my mom is 5'4 and my cousins 5'8 to 6'8. i grew 2 inches from 15 to 16. but ive been growing exactly 1 inch a year after 16. so at 16 i was 6 feet tall, at 17 6'1, at 18 6'2 so now 8 months later i am half an inch taller. so judging by my growth i could be 6'3 at 19 exactly. my question is could i keep this growth up from 19 to 20 and end up at 6'4 my dream height. can you guys kindly give your opinions. THANK YOU!
Progking said on 10/Jan/20
@C Bradley, i see 1.25-1.5 inches there. I'd say you are easily 6'1 going by that picture.
@Greg in my town(mainly white) in Canada i would feel a bit above average if i was 5'10.5, maybe tallish among the general population. I started to feel tallish when i was 5'11 range at 16, but since you get to 6'0 in boots that is a nice height to be
@Jose4569 3 inches is perfect, so:
1 inch above: above average
2 inches: tallish
3 inches: tall
In between 2-3 inches can pass for tall though
FiveEightJake said on 10/Jan/20
@George89

173.6 cm as a low here can vouch. Sometimes I feel average, sometimes short and sometimes above average, depends on location really and the event (age group) I had wrote on here I went to Cheshire recently and it felt like 75% of blokes were over 5’10 there, in my nearest town though everyone seems to be a short arse, blame old age.

Too many short guys claim 5’8 as a safe claim and it messes it up for us who are legit. I had a colleague tell me they’re 5’9 and they are two inches shorter than me! I didn’t call them out though I’m not that nasty, If people are insecure or unsure it is what it is.
Mark O' Connor said on 10/Jan/20
@mrfunnyguy I am from northern Italy, the average here is pretty much around 5 9.5 for men so I feel pretty tall. It's very rare for me to meet a woman taller than me here, maybe 1 every 2 months( with same footwear)
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 10/Jan/20
@Greg
Not necessarily. The FDA and the medical industry in general, have conditioned us that the more meals per day, the better. but constantly eating nonstop isn't good, because the GI system won't get a chance to take a break. Eating more meals also speeds up your metabolism, increasing your chances of becoming fat, as well as a host of other issues. And you don't have to eat lots of meals even if you're bodybuilding, as there are plenty of bodybuilders who do IF (intermittent fasting).
pov said on 9/Jan/20
From my experience white british, american and french are actually the shortest groups in the white race. Scandinavians average around 181/182cm, dutch average around 184cm, belgium average 178cm, germany around 179/180cm. I have worked in holland for over a year. And have also worked in germany for 5 months. For my company I travel a lot, especially around western/northern europe.
Vsquad said on 9/Jan/20
@Some anonymous person

I'm 6ft as well and I also hate when people call me tall or make a big deal out of it (usually my family who do it the most). There's so much taller people out there that I feel guilty for even entertaining the notion that I'm "tall"...

It's actually frustrating being 6ft. Taller people who are 6'1+ will tell you "you're not even that tall", but then people below 5'10 won't stop telling you how tall you are which makes you feel guilty like I said.
Greg said on 9/Jan/20
@some anonymous person either you’re trolling or walking around China 😂😂😂
Big Ben said on 9/Jan/20
@mrfunnyguy - Let's meet up in Stockholm one day. @Lell is invited too (if I'm correct @Lell doesn't live much more than an hour away from me). In my experience people claim to taller than what they are in Sweden.
chevy said on 9/Jan/20
@rob what’s the maximum that you can exceed your maximum potential height by? For example let’s say your dad is 5ft 8 and your mom is 5ft 2. And your maximum potential is 5ft 4 to 6ft .
Triplescrew said on 9/Jan/20
@SMark O' Connor

A 5'8" eye level at 6'2" is pretty unlikely. I'll take your word for it, but I'd expect that from somebody around 6'0.5".
Triplescrew said on 9/Jan/20
@Some anonymous person

A legit 6 footer has an eye level (around 5'7.5") that sees above the heads of conventionally tall women and looms pretty large over the 5'4"-ish eye levels of 5'9" men. I don't know if that's worth laughing over or being called "massive," but it's not strange to be seen as a bigger dude at that height.
grizz said on 9/Jan/20
@Some anonymous person, where are you from?
@Alex 6'3.25, your listed height would make you decently above average both in the Netherlands and the Balkans (which are similar in height). Once you're past 188 cm (6'2), there won't be a simple person in the world (mentally handicapped excluded) who will call you average or short.
6footTom said on 8/Jan/20
@Some anonymous person

A legit 6'0" is quite tall to a lot of people. But because the media treats 6'0" as the standard male height and a lot of 5'10" - 5'11" guys tend to claim 6'0" people don't really consider that number tall and we tend to forget just how tall a legit 6'0" guy can look. I'm the same height and I recently had an interesting exchange with a classmate who asked me about my height.

Classmate: "Wait, how tall are you?"
Me: "I'm around 6 feet."
Classmate: "Really? I thought you were taller than that."
Me: "Yeah, I get that one a lot."
Classmate: "Oh, well at least it's nice that you appear tall."

The last bit is interesting because she was more or less suggesting that she would have considered me as tall if I hadn't told her what my real height was. But now that the cat's out of the bag, I only "appear" tall. It kind of goes to show how 6'0" has become somewhat of an undervalued height these days.
Progking said on 8/Jan/20
@Sakz weird i think tip of nose for me is 6.75 inches or so. I think its hard to get an exact height from that as tip can be anywhere from 6-7 inches.
AndrewV said on 8/Jan/20
@Some anonymous person

Do you live in a country where 183cm is exceptionally or very tall? Even if you don't, anyone who's at upper percentiles of height will get comments and remarks from time to time.
Nik Ashton said on 8/Jan/20
@ Some anonymous person - Where do you live?
Grayloth said on 8/Jan/20
@mrfunnyguy:

Like I have said many times before, the average height has been m-e-a-s-u-r-e-d in Sweden every year, up until 10 years ago, since the 1940s in military drafting and it's been around 180 cms since the 1980s (same as the other Scandinavian countries by the way).

You keep making up excuses to yourself because you can't face that you either aren't 6'1 as you say or you can't judge height at all. I am 6'3.25 guy from Sweden and people always refer to me as tall or the tall guy.
Nik Ashton said on 8/Jan/20
@ George89 - You are virtually average for a man! Whereabouts (autocorrect tried to change it to snouts! 🐩!) in the UK do you live?
mrfunnyguy said on 8/Jan/20
@Mark O'Connor I'm half a centimeter shorter than that (about 187.5 cm in the morning), and I see women taller than me literally all the time when along the street downtown. Are you from America if you don't mind me asking?
C Bradley said on 8/Jan/20
Click Here

I am the tall guy in center back with the shades on. do you guys think I look strong, solid, or weak 6-1 with the guy next to/ in front of me who is grant gustin like range 5-11.75?

I am standing a bit behind but good posture and tilting up a bit. he didn't stand as well and may have been tilting down. footwear I am not sure who had advantage between us. I had a bit more hair on top. not sure if balcony was totally level. what do you think?

I am the tall guy in center back with the shades on. do you guys think I look strong, solid, or weak 6-1 with the guy next to/ in front of me who is grant gustin like range 5-11.75?

I am standing a bit behind but good posture and tilting up a bit. he didn't stand as well and may have been tilting down. footwear I am not sure who had advantage between us. I had a bit more hair on top. not sure if balcony was totally level. what do you think?
Some anonymous person said on 8/Jan/20
I am only 183cm or 6ft for short. I know I am still tall but some people treat me like I am some massive guy. There were even some girls laughing at how tall I am. I don't know why I am percieved as so tall
Sakz said on 8/Jan/20
@Mark O'Connor You'd expect them to be about 6'1. That's where 5'7 reaches on me.
Mark O' Connor said on 8/Jan/20
I talked to a woman and she looked taller than me and I am 188 cm in the morning, but she had about 4/5 cm heel. I have a quite low eyelevel, at around 173 cm at night, while she had a small head and a higher eyelevel of course, do you think it is only a perception and she could have been as tall as me or even shorter? I had flat vans
chevy said on 8/Jan/20
@rob do you think Yao ming’s height is extraordinary?
Editor Rob
There's not many basketball players who have been taller and had a global impact like Yao has.
c-mo said on 7/Jan/20
simple height chart . night heights . non elderly men from europe and nearby regions :



167.5cm = short

172.5cm = borderline short/medium

177.5cm = medium

182.5cm = borderline tall/medium

187.5cm = tall


the closer you are to a certain height I listed the more you fall in that category
Sakz said on 7/Jan/20
@Equal To add to that point a lot of women don't even know what a 5'10 or 6 footer looks like, which is why I think their 'ideal height' is quite pointless. For example a lot of 5'10 males will claim 6'0 and women will believe it. Basically if you were 5'10 or 5'11 they wouldn't even notice that you're not the desired 6'0, not that it should dictate a relationship.

@Visitor Yeah something like that is definitely down to injury. A lot of people have slight variations and assume it's height loss, but that can't happen unless you have an injury or a spinal condition. Of course posture also plays a big role.
George89 said on 7/Jan/20
Just chucking it out there I don't feel short at 173cm at night in the UK. Feel taller than most people I come across and by that I mean most women, old people and a good 30% of men. I have good posture and usually wear at least an inch shoe or trainer. I think most people are measuring themselves wrong or are lying if they feel short at 5ft8. Yes there are situations when you're around 6ft+ people that can make you feel short but on the whole it's not a bad height. Just saying!
anonymus pc9 said on 7/Jan/20
@Nik Ashton it depends on the state
anonymus pc9 said on 7/Jan/20
@Visitor consider that in the past average was lower. I don't know where you and your grandfather from, but in the 1910-1950/60 average was around 5'5-5'8 in the most country
Greg said on 7/Jan/20
@Equal 5’10 is ok but I think 5’11.5-6’0 range is better a decent 5’10 though does look tallish from my personal experience as I touch 5’11 first thing out of bed and am 5’10.5/5’10 5/8ths in the noon but I will say this it is a pretty decent height you will be close to 6’0 in most shoes and reach 6’0 in boots.
Grayloth said on 7/Jan/20
@Andrew

I have linked that alot of times but he doesn’t seem to get that into his head.

Click Here

This is army recruit average measured heights

Click Here

As you can see the average height is around 180-181 for young swedish men.


And also, average height is around 182-183 for young ethnic dutch men. (182,5 for young men born in 1994 and add 0,5 cm to get young ethnic dutch men).

Click Here
AndrewV said on 7/Jan/20
@Jose4569

It really depends on the standard deviation of a population. The higher the standard deviation, the further you'd have to be from average to be at a higher/lower percentile.
mrfunnyguy said on 7/Jan/20
@AndrewV All statistics from Sweden will probably show that the average is in deed around 5'11.5, but since many people lie about height, the self reported statistics are not very reliable. Here in Sweden many people tend to downgrade their height instead of inflating it like in many other countries, which probably means that the real average is a bit higher than the self reported. I even know a guy who knows himself that he is around six foot but calls himself 175 cm (5'9) for example.
As for the official measured average, I would guess that it's incorrectly measured, even though I know it sounds ridiculous when I say it. When I measure myself on the height markings in stores here in Sweden, I often end up like 5'11-5'11.5, but sometimes 6'1 like I have measured myself at home. I've measured myself with different measuring tapes, rulers and even yardsticks, in different places, and I always get that I'm about exactly 6'1 (185.4-185.5cm) in the evening, so I don't believe I've overmeasured myself. Still, very often (but not always), I measure myself as 5'11.5 or something like that in stores.
Some other guy here from Sweden (I think it was Lell but I'm sorry if remember it wrong) told me that people often underestimate his height, and I've also noticed that people here for some weird reason have an incorrect perception of height. Which is the opposite from a lot of other countries where people often overestimate other people's heights instead.
Alex 6'3.25 said on 7/Jan/20
Guys, which height do you consider more ideal in Netherlands to be perceived decently tall?
Lell said on 7/Jan/20
@Glitch

Age 15: 174.5 cm

Age 16: 176 cm

Age 17: 176.5 cm

Age 18: 178 cm

Age 19: 179 cm
Mhmdmahmoud said on 7/Jan/20
Who is better elevator shoes or shoe lifts? Advice me please because I'm confused to buy one of them.
Editor Rob
If you are on a tight budget, lifts are the cheap option. But they move about a bit. Elevators usually have the lift built into the shape, although some have removable lift portions (but still manufactured to the shape of the shoe). I think overall elevators would be more comfortable, but they are generally quite expensive.
Visitor said on 7/Jan/20
My grandfather was REALLY short (but stocky and very strong). Barely over 160 cm. I ended up being the 181-183 cm that I am. Going back even that one generation, you can't basically predict your height at all.
I also grew significantly after age 17. The last step took many, many years. I was measured 180 cm flat at age 20, but after that I've been measured significantly taller many, many times. I was over 181 cm 30 minutes ago. I'm not sure how common this is, but if you're that young, I mean still a teenager, don't think you're definitely done growing at that point. I also continued growing a thicker and fuller beard literally all through my twenties, I don't think that's related to height at all.

My lower back injury has been x-rayed, my spine has "dropped down" from its natural position and is also slightly curved. I still don't know if it can be corrected somehow. But that's why I've had "height loss" in my early 30's. I really was measured at slightly over 183 cm in the evening when I was 22, these days I only measure even close to that first thing in the morning. The injury probably also has something to do with why my height varies much more than others, the extreme range is 180-183 and I have even measured 179.8 after VERY heavy exercise. I really should get things fixed, my back actually hurts even right now. It's not good.
Glitch said on 6/Jan/20
@Lell

Can you tell me your growth chart age wise from 15-19? I will se if it matches with me
Jose4569 said on 6/Jan/20
Hi Rob in your opinion. Is 3 inches above average and 3 inches below average considered the start of tall/short. Or would you say 4 inches above or below average to be considered short and tall.
Editor Rob
Yeah I think using the plus or minus 3 inch is fair for going from average to then short/tall
Sakz said on 6/Jan/20
@Progking Yeah or maybe 5'9.75 at most. 6'0 is weak low end tall whereas 6'1 is more solid tall.
Equal said on 6/Jan/20
@Lell

Yeah, I hope so too. Honestly, 5’10 5/8 is a pretty killer height. At that point, your so close 5’11 (and 6’, for that matter), that you’d already look pretty tall to most. As such, I would deem 5’10 an ideal height for males. (I feel like it’s a lot of women say 6’, but it’s kind of a stretch and I think being tall is overrated).

I wish I could hit 5’10, but I’ll settle for 5’8 1/2.
Progking said on 6/Jan/20
@Mark o Connor 186-187.5 cm range is likely
AndrewV said on 6/Jan/20
@mrfunnyguy

Please show me a source that provides measured data of young Swedish men. The Balkans and the Netherlands are renowned for having the tallest men on earth and they're no taller than 6'0"-6'0.5" for young white men.
Progking said on 6/Jan/20
@Sakz yeah and i dont think the young adult average is as high as 5'10, maybe a bit under like 5'9.5. If your close enough to 6'1 you are definetely tall but 6'0 can count too
Sakz said on 6/Jan/20
@Dan84 If I looked at that I'd think it was based off the younger generation average which is slightly higher. If you go by the overall average of 5'9 which includes all ages, 5'10 is above average and a 6 footer is tall. 5'6 is short though which I agree with. However that is perception based as you said which can alter it.
Lell said on 6/Jan/20
@Equal

Yeah you must have taken after your mother's side a bit more. My maternal grandparents were 5'5" and 5'4", but I heard that my grandpa was malnourished as a child during Soviet WW2 and ate grass to survive. Their children got good nutrition and my mother grew to 5'6" and my uncle 6'0" (as my mom says, he could've been 5'10" dunno).

My father is 5'8.5" and I heard that my paternal grandma was short, so I guess 5'2" range. His brother is short and so are his children ranging around 5'6/5'7". I have heard stories from relatives that my other uncles were 6'1". Not sure if it is true as it may have been an exaggaration, but they must have definitely been atleast 180cm/5'11" tall.

Growth is undpredictable. I thought at 17 I was done at 176 cm but have added 3 cm since then. So you may hit 5'8" who knows.
Nik Ashton said on 6/Jan/20
@ Dan84 - There is a lot right about what you say but for me average ends below 180 cm and tall starts below 185 cm! Otherwise spot on!
mrfunnyguy said on 6/Jan/20
@AndrewV I didn't say that the average was 6'2 in Sweden, I just said that it's barely over average. It's probably a strong 6'1.
Dakar said on 5/Jan/20
Rob, if I send you a picture of me, can you know my height? the last time I measured myself accurately was at 16 and I was 181 cm
Equal said on 5/Jan/20
@Lell

I turned 19 in August, so not too long ago I would say. It’s worry considering that in terms of height, my father is in the 5’11-6’ range and my mom is (I think) 5’4. So it kind of baffles me how I still ended up being pretty average, but it’s probably because my mom’s side of the family isn’t very tall (my grandpa on her side is 5’6). How tall are your parents?
Poster said on 5/Jan/20
@Ross Galbraith: What part of the USA were you in? Different parts have different heights. You find shorter people in the urban northeast and southwest. You find taller people in the upper midwest.
Nik Ashton said on 5/Jan/20
@ Khaled taban - All the best, take care.

Nik
Nik Ashton said on 5/Jan/20
@ Ross Galbraith - Americans are taller than people in the UK!
Nik Ashton said on 5/Jan/20
5’8” feels at least average a lot of the time in the UK although on others it feels under average and well shorter than a reasonable minority of men are!
Dan84 said on 5/Jan/20
So at my height of 184cm in the evening and 6 foot 1 out of bed, here is how I perceive the height of British men:

Men- 5 foot 6- short
168cm to 173cm- Shortish
173 foot 8 to 180cm - average
180cm to 185cm- tallish
185 cm - 190cm- tall
190cm- 195cm- very tall.
195cm- extremely tall and pretty rare.

Any woman around 5 foot 7 imo is tallish and if they're above my eyeline so 172 cm or so then they're tall.

Anybody agree or disagree?
Sakz said on 5/Jan/20
@Bobby I think 6'3 typically starts to become 'very tall', but some may view 6'2 in that category aswell considering it's 5 inches above average.
Cristi said on 5/Jan/20
Hey @Rob, I'm back with anothe question. How tall are those folks in comparation to Obama&Trump.

Click Here

Romania president is listed at 192cm, but that's too high in my opinion.
Editor Rob
Can seem very close to 6ft 3 I think with obama and trump
Greg said on 5/Jan/20
@progpking Click Here here’s another photo as you can see the guy 2nd from the right is noticeably shorter than the guy in the green hoodie who’s probably like 5’11 3/8ths-5’11.5 himself so he can’t be that range. The shortest guy in the photo is like between 5’2-5’3.
Greg said on 5/Jan/20
@Progking he’s not even close to that, in boots he would probably reach his 5’11 claim 😂 hell that would make me a solid 6’0(I wish) but no he’s max like 5’9 3/8ths barefeet, he might reach 5’9.5 in the afternoons but that would be his low, ill try to get another photo for you guys to show what I mean. The guy on the far right isn’t standing well he’s definitely over 5’7, we measured him he got a little bit over 5’8.
Greg said on 5/Jan/20
@Ross Galbraith Americans aren’t getting smaller they have always been around 5’9 on average as long as I could remember even at 5’10 you would be taller than most, 5’11 is a solid above average the only place you would feel average is in some parts of Europe like Amsterdam or something, thinking your post in itself is enough proof for people here who think Americans average at 5’10.
QM6'1QM said on 5/Jan/20
Lell said on 5/Jan/20

6'2 is a tall height everywhere all over the world!!!
AndrewV said on 5/Jan/20
@Ross Galbraith
Many Western European countries are have a 5'11" or 5'10.5" average, but the UK is actually very similar in height to the US: a 5'9" national average and a 5'10" average for white guys under 40.
Myself said on 5/Jan/20
"mrfunnyguy said on 4/Jan/20
@cristi- I'm from Sweden, and I would say you would probably be barely over average here, probably like one or two centimeters. In some cases, if you would be among a lot of ethnical swedish young guys, you would sometimes even end up a bit below average."
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@mrfunnyguy
Stop being so funny)
AndrewV said on 5/Jan/20
@Cristi
In America you will be in the very tall range, around 95th percentile. Even around the tallest demographic, young white guys, you'd still be above the 90th percentile, you will be universally considered a tall guy in the states. More anecdotally, you'll be the tallest in guy in most social contexts, even on a majority white college campus.

Source: Click Here
AndrewV said on 5/Jan/20
The average for Swedes isn't 6'2, no country or region on earth is nearly that tall. A solid 5'11" for young lads seems likely based on multiple studies, but 6'2" is impossible.
Lell said on 5/Jan/20
@Cristi

I live in Sweden and at 188 cm you'd still be tall but not tower over as many people and not tall to the point that it is anything remarkable really. So you're fine.
Lell said on 5/Jan/20
@Equal

When did you turn 19 bro? I turned on Dec 19 and I grew the same way from 1/2 to measure around 5'10 5/8"/179,5 cm. Hopefully you reach 5'8" and I reach 5'11".
Ross Galbraith said on 5/Jan/20
Rob, first time visiting yer site. I’m a Scot living in Canada. I’m a strong 5’11”, when visiting the US i’m definitely taller than the majority of me. Surprisingly, in the UK and Western Europe i’m about average. Can this be attributed to health care differences? Are Americans getting smaller?
Editor Rob
Well it's interesting. At 5ft 8 I don't feel that short in the UK, but definitely if I observe height I can tell 5ft 8 is less than average for sure, but 5ft 11 I'd never have thought was average in UK.
Ross Galbraith said on 5/Jan/20
Rob, first time visiting yer site. I’m a Scot living in Canada. I’m a strong 5’11”, when visiting the US i’m definitely taller than the majority of me. Surprisingly, in the UK and Western Europe i’m about average. Can this be attributed to health care differences? Are Americans getting smaller?
chevy said on 5/Jan/20
@rob would it be unusual for average height parents to have kids that are over seven feet tall?
Editor Rob
it will be rarer and usually it is some randomness and combination of taller aspects of genes which can result in these very tall kids - of course, in some cases it can be excess Pituitary growth.
Mark O' Connor said on 4/Jan/20
If 5 feet 7 comes to the tip of the nose of another person, what is the person height range?
Big Ben said on 4/Jan/20
@Rob - I still think that standing at his tallest he could measure 194.5-195. I think he'd edge out Zlatan Ibrahimovic by a fraction. Here's another one: Click Here

That feller next to me is 168.5cm under a stadiometer (atleast that's what the stadiometer at. How tall can I look in that picture? I must add that I insist that 194/195 guy is the perfect fit for Dracula. He's got Christopher Lee's nose, he's got black hair, very tall and he's got a deep voice!
Editor Rob
You can appear 2cm taller than your normal height, I think maybe your friend is a little further away which might have made him look more 166 than 168 range.
Bobby 1.78m (5ft 10in) said on 4/Jan/20
@InsecureTeen

If you claimed 6'2, it wouldn't technically be lying as you measure it in the morning, but I would claim 6'1 with those stats. Now, if you measured 6'2.5 in the morning and 6'1.75 at a low, I would claim 6'2 then, or even if you were 6'1.5 at minimum at a low. A height of 186cm is 6'1.25. In metric, I would claim 186cm, since you say you are 186cm for the majority of the day.
QM6'1QM said on 4/Jan/20
InsecureTeen said on 3/Jan/20

That's literally my height, but i was never less than 6'1 (185.4 cm).
Please, keeping yourself honest guy - claim 6'1 to people, please :)
It's finest quality of men.
QM6'1QM said on 4/Jan/20
Cristi said on 3/Jan/20

You're tall man, somewhere around the world!
Progking said on 4/Jan/20
@InsecureTeen, just claim 6'1, or a little over 6'1. If you were 6'1.5-1.75 for the majority of the day claiming 6'2 is fine
Progking said on 4/Jan/20
@Cristi at almost 6'2 you will feel solid tall in America, in Netherlands maybe just above average
Progking said on 4/Jan/20
@Greg guy in back looks 5'11.25-5'11.5. No more than that. Claiming almost 6'0 isnt a bad claim. Guy with blue shirt looks a little under 5'6 probably if he stood straight. Guy on far right looks around 5'7 as well if he was standing a bit closer to you.
mrfunnyguy said on 4/Jan/20
@cristi- I'm from Sweden, and I would say you would probably be barely over average here, probably like one or two centimeters. In some cases, if you would be among a lot of ethnical swedish young guys, you would sometimes even end up a bit below average.
Greg said on 4/Jan/20
@Rob Spot on guess with the guy in the blue shirt he’s never looked more than a solid 5’6 for me as for the guy on the far right do you think he’s around 5’8 and change? The guy behind me is actually not even 5’11 range let alone 5’10, the only way he would be 5’11 range was if I was a legit 6’0 which I’m not 😝. I’m probably about 5’11.5 there in footwear. I haven’t measured him but I think he would be in the 5’9 range this is as close to a measurement as he’s done to try to convince us he’s 5’10.5-5’11, notice how the tape is bent?Also not sure if he had footwear or not but I think he looks at best 5’9 range not counting his hair and how the tapes bent. his 5’11 claim is not believable Click Here
Editor Rob
Far right guy could be at least my height.
It's useful for guys who are not sure on their height to be measured by somebody who at least knows how to measure like yourself!

I don't think the guy's tape is bent too much, but it is trickier to tell exactly how high he is. Tell him he needs a proper measurement, somebody who at least knows how to measure like yourself 😎 Although, sometimes people don't want the truth...they have a figure, and any measurement might upset their own belief.
Cristi said on 4/Jan/20
Hey @Rob, can you estimate how tall I look beside my friends?

In this picture my friend is 168 (measured) and we have the same footwear advantage.
Click Here

Thanks, hope you approve my comment.


In this picture, my friend is 182cm measured and we have exactly the same footwear advantage.

Click Here
Editor Rob
You can appear near 190cm range with those guys.
Bobby 1.78m (5ft 10in) said on 4/Jan/20
@Cristi

Nah. A 6'2 guy would be considered very tall even in America and Sweden, but in the Netherlands, you might encounter guys your height more often. Although I'd say even for the Netherlands, you'd be considered above average height, as their average is generally accepted to be a solid to strong 5'11 range, with the youth possibly measuring closer to 6'0.
Myself said on 4/Jan/20
@Greg
Yeah, that's a very big shoe size for someone of that height... sometimes when I look in the mirror and see myself in shoes I still am kinda impressed by how big they look (wearing 14 now usually), but on a shorter person they would be very noticeable.
Interestingly enough my hands are about 90-95 percentile in terms of length, but they are pretty much of the same size as my mother's (mine maybe slightly wider). It's still something I can't wrap my head around...her hands for a woman are huge, yet mine aren't really THAT big for a man. Genetics are weird sometimes, hehe
Canson said on 4/Jan/20
@Greg: most people, but not all, who refuse to be measured or measured properly especially when someone challenges their height typically know that they’re not being truthful. I heard 1 or two people say something along the lines of “not right now” or “I don’t have time” or “why does it matter” or why do we need to do this. Of course the ones who bring up the argument in the first place or who insinuate that they’re taller than they are or that you’re taller than you are
Equal said on 3/Jan/20
Earlier in December, I measured at 5’7 1/2 (I’m 19, mind you). Now, I measure 5’7 5/8 (I check consistently to ensure that I’m not over measuring since I walk and stand around a lot during the weekends). This wasn’t always the case earlier in 2019, where I was only 5’7 1/4. I know these differences in height are very minor, but I hope that this pattern of growth continues in the next couple of months to where I’m a strong 5’8.
Greg said on 3/Jan/20
Rob in this photo how tall do I look amongst my friends bearing in mind their claims? Also how tall would you say they actually look to you? The guy on the far right claims 5’8/5’9. Guy with blue shirt claims 5’7- 5’7.5 guy in the back claims 5’11 and has claimed almost 6’0..🤕 My friends think that he’s the same height as me what do you think? Despite him standing further away from the camera. I believe footwear was pretty close amongst us all except the guy with glasses had vans and I was in 1 inch air maxes. Click Here Also I have no idea why it’s saying erotic images when you click the link there’s nothing inappropriate about the photo.
Editor Rob
the guy in the middle can seem 5ft 6ish at most given he might be a bit looser. I could envisage the guy behind you being 5ft 11 range.
It would be interesting actually if they were measured.

No man should refuse a measurement under the stadiometer or a tape measure 😎

However, in my experience getting people to agree to appear in a video is harder than I thought...maybe other folk can have better luck, height comparison videos I think are useful.
Mark84 said on 3/Jan/20
Hi Rob I am 35 years old man from Northern Italy. I am 174 cm tall just out of bed and about 172.5 cm at dinner time. Young people are very tall even in Italy these days. How would u classificate my height among European men my age?
Editor Rob
Overall in Europe you'll find some countries it's bang on average, but some Scandinavian countries maybe feel short.

Italy isn't a 'short' country, though I'm sure in some people's minds they might think of it as such!
Cristi said on 3/Jan/20
I am 189.5cm in morning and 187.5cm in evening. In my country, Romania, I tower over most of population, and I rarely see a guy taller than me. Do you think if I go in Netherlands, Sweden, America, I will be considered average?
Cristi said on 3/Jan/20
Hey Rob, How tall do you think Romania president is? His name is Klaus Iohannis, you can search photos of him with Donald Trump and Obama so you can give me an estimate, please?
Editor Rob
About 6ft 3, though could have lost height
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 3/Jan/20
@ Khaled Taban - Peace to you too, bruv! Should you wish to come back, you know where we are! 😘

It's been a great pleasure knowing you! 😁👍
Trigueros-5ft9.5 said on 3/Jan/20
@Khaled Taban You should've gone for a therapist rather than leaving the website , It's sad you've left celebheights over height obsession. However , It's your choice after all ...
Greg said on 3/Jan/20
@Kenny I think it’s fair for you to claim 5’10.5 or 179cm you’re likely over at or around 5’11 in the mornings 5’10 sounds like a low for you.
Big Ben said on 3/Jan/20
@Rob - It's funny, he thinks he might be even taller than 195 now but I beg to differ. He can barely look 6'4.25" in person mainly due to not having exactly a military posture. But standing tall he's in that upper 6'4"/6'5" range.
Editor Rob
Maybe he could stretch up taller when being measured...
InsecureTeen said on 3/Jan/20
If my height a few minutes after getting out of bed is 188cm, and approx 186cm for the majority of the day, while probably 185.5 at minimum most days, seldom 185 I think, can I claim 6'2" if I don't want to be too technical?
Joe J said on 2/Jan/20
Hi Rob,

A YouTuber who goes by the named of JMX claims 6”5, he’s done some YouTube boxing matches and an MMA match recently and there will definitely be some pictures of him with other listed YouTubers. Do you think he is the full 6”5?
Editor Rob
Wouldn't have thought a big 6ft 5, but a bit under it.
F97 said on 2/Jan/20
What would be a low respectively high eyelevel for a 183-184cm guy?
Greg said on 2/Jan/20
@Khaled Taban I don’t think 5’10 is a ‘barely good height’ for a guy, I think it’s decent same with 5’9 granted you’re legit then I wouldn’t give both heights a bad grade, remember you could always be 5’5 or shorter that would be a worse type of scenario. However, I do agree with you that one Czech there are more tall girls, Slavs can be tall sometimes same with Polish, Denmark and Nordic people as well. 6’0 isn’t common there but I would say it’s more common than America or like the U.K. Jeez Man I think the problem is more personal than just height related maybe you have body dysmorphia or something have you tried seeing a therapist? Maybe it could help and that’s not really how that works dating a tall girl doesn’t make your height obsession alone better or worse it’s a shame you’re leaving the website. 5’9 really isn’t that bad and you don’t have to be 6’0+ to date a tall girl.
Greg said on 2/Jan/20
@Myself oh yeah your Russian right? I forgot and yeah true but my father did not have flat feet, I remember that perfectly he just had a larger than average shoe size for his height because most 5’10/5’11 guys might wear either 10 or 11, but getting into the 12-14 range U.S is bigger than average for a man of said height. And yeah I know what you mean
Big Ben said on 2/Jan/20
Hey Rob, my friend here was measured 194.5cm in the noon a year ago (he might be as tall as 6'4.75" now but slightly under is a possibility). Was wondering how tall I look next to him? Click Here
Editor Rob
I think if you are 179-80, 194-5 looks very likely for that tall guy.
Kenny said on 2/Jan/20
Hi Rob, If my height at 8.30PM is 178.1CM would it be unreasonable if I claimed 179CM as my height?

Thanks.
Editor Rob
for a portion of the day you'll measure near 179, so it's not unreasonable to go with that figure if you want.
khaled taban said on 1/Jan/20
@Greg, let me tell you about my experience in dating a tall girl , It's disgusting !
I wish I would never have dated a tall girl, tall girls are only for tall guys , not for short men like me , having a bull*hit height and trying to fix your ego with dating a taller girl never works out , trust me , in fact it would turn back on you so badly.
Tbh with you I dated a 5'10" girl and she was always my love but also I aimed to satisfy myself and to get rid of my feeling of lacking height , I thought I'd have been retired from height obsession ,but no it never happened.
After that we have broken up (height has nothing to do with it) but we met each other coincidentally later , she asked me shyly " Are you still obsessed with height?" , I replied " I've to deal with it all of my life , It's my problem and I know how to deal with it ".
Only 6 footers are proper for tall girls , otherwise you are putting yourself into impressive situations , just like me 😉
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I am leaving the site 👐
I am happy that I wrote someday on this amazing website and It used to be a part of my life.
From now on I will no longer write on my lovely site , Thanks for Greg , Nik and Sandy for helping me previously and Thanks Rob for creating this nice site ❤❤❤😍
Peace.
khaled taban said on 1/Jan/20
@Greg, 5'10" is a great height for a female , no doubt. Unfortunately for a male , It's barely good , like "-D" or "D" since 5'9" is "F" just like any height below it.
5'10" women isn't that rare in the world , especially if we take tall countries in account , I was shocked of how tall Czech girls are , I went there last year and the amount of tall girls there could've blown my mind , just tons upon tons of 5'8" , 5'9" , 5'10" and even 5'11" and you could see 6'0" as more common height than normal country in Czech (for women I mean) yet still an uncommon height generally.
Myself said on 1/Jan/20
@Greg
Yeah, it's only partially related. It also depends on whether you have flat feet or not, because in case you do, your shoe size wouldn't realistically represent what you would wear in case your feet had a normal arch.

My father at 6'1 peak claimed height wears 11-11.5 (US), while my mother 9-10 (US) at 5'6 (today), maybe 5'6.5 (possible peak).
My Russian grandad also wore 11-11.5 (US), but I don't know how tall exactly he was, my mother (his daughter) estimates him as being taller than my dad, but she's pretty bad at height guessing, so yeah...
(When talking about someone 5'10 or taller she usually refers to them as "tall" regardless)
Sean william Winter said on 1/Jan/20
rob what woudl you say is when short begins for a male in the uk?? young person 18 to 40. woudl you say 5'7 or less than that? what is very short for a smale??
Editor Rob
Once you get into 5ft 7 range, the percentage who would class you as short increases, but when you head into 5ft 6, I think most people are viewing you as short.
daad1234 said on 1/Jan/20
I have a similar question here as someone else had. Why is is that average height and short parents often can produce tall kids, but tall parents never have short kids?
Editor Rob
Tall parents sometimes do end up with shorter kids, look at Zendaya at 5ft 8 range with a 6ft 3 and 6ft+ father.
Rosario Dawson has a 6ft father/mother too.
chevy said on 1/Jan/20
@rob do you think average height parents can produce extremely tall kids?
Editor Rob
It can happen that the kid ends up with some of the genes that make them significantly taller than expected
See said on 31/Dec/19
Rob I wear uk 11 size is that big for 174cm what's average 9/10?
Editor Rob
It's quite long for 174cm. size 8-9UK would be a common range, 7 small, 10 big...
Greg said on 31/Dec/19
@Lime Pie I agree with you, especially with Athletes like Sports players or Professional Fighters, For example I was training at an MMA gym where my trainer met Randy Couture who Rob has listed at 5’11.5 and the trainer who might have been around 6’0 peak is like 2.5 inches taller than him idk how much height he’s losing with posture but I wouldn’t have guessed him over 5’9-5’10 in the photo because the trainer is close to my height just barely edges me out maybe 5’11 range. I’m surprised how overlisted a lot of these fighters are.
Greg said on 31/Dec/19
@Johan I think you provided an accurate estimation of the Dutch average, I felt basically average in Holland but on the lower side of it. So 181-182cm would be the younger average and for the older population it may very well be between 179-180cm. I agree that the majority of people want Holland to have a 6’0.5 average or whatever but realistically that’s not the case. Same with the American average they desperate want it to be 5’10 for young American males when in reality it’s in the 5’9 territory.

@Khaled Taban I think a size 8/9 U.S is average for a 5’9 guy, 10+ would be on the higher end and 7 on the lower. Also yeah 5’10 is very tall for a girl, I rarely see girls around that height I actually saw one girl who was close to my height I edged her in boots but she had a 1 inch sneaker maybe she was 5’10-5’11 and young probably in her 20’s. But other than that haven’t seen any girls close to my height or taller in a while.
Greg said on 31/Dec/19
@Nik technically I am a very weak 5’11 and a very strong 5’10, according to Rob.
QM6'1QM said on 31/Dec/19
Happy New Year to everyone, guys.
I love y'all!
Canson said on 31/Dec/19
Durant just measured 6’9.5 so I’m not able to see how he is 7’0” tall. Durant doesn’t have but 4” or so on 6’5” range Draymond Green
AndrewV said on 31/Dec/19
Rob, what would be your standard for "tallness" and "shortness"? Do you go by percentiles (ie like one standard deviation above/below average) or by societal perception?
Editor Rob
I would broadly class 6ft plus tall and 5ft 6 as short in Scotland.
AndrewV said on 31/Dec/19
@Johan 185cm
Since the overall average is 181cm/167cm, would you say a solid 6'0" for men and 5'7" for women is the average for young ethnic Dutch? I've been to the Netherlands once (Groningen and Amsterdam) and I felt solidly average at 184cm, most young guys I came across were either around my height or 1-2 inches taller/shorter.

@Progking
You pretty much sum up my experiences being 6'0.5". I feel pretty tall in general but if I'm on a college campus or around a place with a lot of young white people I feel more tallish than legit tall. That said, most guys who are taller than me on a daily basis are only taller by 1-3 inches. A legit 6'4" is pretty uncommon, even around young white guys.
Nik Ashton said on 31/Dec/19
@ Lime Pie - I like your name!
Johan 185 cm said on 31/Dec/19
Daycringeothon said on 29/Dec/19
Tallest women in World are actually Latvian at 5’6.375”. Dutch Women are second tallest. This is based only on there being more Latvian women in proportion to their total population. Dutch women are 5’6.875”-5’7” but are in smaller numbers relative to Latvian.

Dutch males are still the tallest average by population. 182.8cm 5’11.9” for young males (18-36).

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167 cm for women as of this year here in the Netherlands.

For men its 181 cm in general here.

I also looked up some other details.

A woman who is 183- 187 cm is only 1.6 % of the population. Still high when compared to many countries.

For men 198 cm or higher its 2.1 %

Even guys who fall 193-197cm are just 5.9 %.

And just to prove my point for the 100th time on this forum. There was a guy here who claimed 187 cm average in the shortest part of our country.

In Zuid Holland/Noord Brabant where this person worked, the average is now reported as being barely 180 cm.

While in the north as I said for example in Friesland and Groningen the average is 182 cm. There is even a part of the country where it is 179 cm.

A solid 5'11" is average here many won't accept it as it means their country is shorter than they think.
khaled taban said on 30/Dec/19
Rob , I am 5'9" and have shoe size 7 US . How small is that ?
Editor Rob
It is on the lower end of expected range for 5ft 9.
Lime Pie said on 30/Dec/19
I’ve noticed some athletes are shorter/taller in person when you meet them. I am 6’0.25 barefoot and met Damian Lilliard who is listed at 6’2-6’3 and he seamed maybe a half inch taller than I am. Also I’ve met Kevin Durant (a kind of rude guy) who is listed at 6’9-6’10 and is easily almost 7 foot in person, taller than listed forsure.
Kaan said on 30/Dec/19
Hey Rob Im 17 years old and my night height without socks is around 184.6 -9 cm
But My eye level Ievel is 172.4 -7 depending on day
Is that long eye level?It does look pretty long to me.Its not really my forehead but the top of my skull that looks high

Also do you think I can Claim 185 cm?
Editor Rob
Yeah it's a bit longer than average, so other people might not guess you as tall as 185 range because a lot will go by eyelevel and assume they are similar.
khaled taban said on 30/Dec/19
@Greg , CDC growth charts says 5'10" is the 98.5% percentage for girls , I don't know why I feel It's less than that !
Honestly , I regret dating a girl taller than me because I've never accepted my height after that.
Greg said on 29/Dec/19
@Justanotherguy to be fair I also used to have a listing(not an individual page) on user heights along with Bobby, Ben, Connor, Josh, Mamun, Ali Baba and CD to name a few. Since you seem obsessed with me and my legendary height measurement I figured you should know this information. I accidentally overmeasured by a bit hence my generous listing, I know another user had the same I was using a small can and it was tilting a little. I don’t think there’s an argument of whether or not I am 5’10, because clearly I’m over the mark even at my lowest. I am similar to the Celebheights user Big Josh who if memory serves correct is 5’11 out of bed and 5’10.25 at a low, though I’ve measured 5’10 3/8ths many hours out of bed my stretching routine and glucosamine is helping me correct my horrible posture (my chirp agreed) too so maybe when I have it corrected I might measure taller who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️. I read a comment on Robs video of a guy who used to measure 5’10 in the evenings and now measures 5’10.75” at his lowest so even if I managed to gain half an inch it would be good enough for me I doubt I would gain as much as a full inch though. Anyways my haters are my motivators so if anybody wants to keep hating they can do as they wish.
Daycringeothon said on 29/Dec/19
Tallest women in World are actually Latvian at 5’6.375”. Dutch Women are second tallest. This is based only on there being more Latvian women in proportion to their total population. Dutch women are 5’6.875”-5’7” but are in smaller numbers relative to Latvian.

Dutch males are still the tallest average by population. 182.8cm 5’11.9” for young males (18-36).
Nik Ashton said on 29/Dec/19
@ Big Ben - That was a wonderful gesture to Rob!
Dlsl said on 29/Dec/19
Rob is a size 11 big for 174cm?
Editor Rob
if US 11, it is a big size yeah
Nik Ashton said on 29/Dec/19
khaled taban - I agree, America is a tall country!
Nik Ashton said on 29/Dec/19
@ Justanotherguy - Greg is a strong 5’10”.
Greg said on 29/Dec/19
@Khaled Taban okay so a weak 5’10 by your standards not the sites because according to CH a weak mark only goes down to like .75 or slightly below but not as much as half. That’s a nice height for a girl to be I like girls who are between 5’9-5’11. Especially 5’10, yeah I mean I know the average for men is like 5’9 ish because majority of young guys I see are that height it can’t be 5’10 or 5’11.
Greg said on 29/Dec/19
@Sean he looks 5’10-5’11ish, I doubt he’s 6’1 because proportionally he doesn’t even look it he measured an incorrect way.
Canson said on 29/Dec/19
Big King said on 28/Dec/19
People, I was always measuring my height at the doorframe about 2 or 3 hours after being awake. When I measured my height 10 years ago 2 or 3 hours after being awake, my height result was 6'5.5" or 197cm and nowadays I measure my height only 6'5" or barely 196cm, 2 or 3 hours after being awake at the doorframe. So what happened to my stature?

Could be a wide range of factors. Hair, posture, back or other structural issues, carpet, and measuring technique. Could’ve also been accuracy and level of activity if you’re more active now. Possibly you were in college and maybe laid around more back then throughout the day than now? Very possible if someone were say 19 or 20 and now 29 or 30 with structure and working full time? There could be a variety of things. It may be best to see a doctor and possibly have a mri if you do have ailments. But overall I think at 6’5” that you are tall enough. So I’m assuming if you measure Where you do that your afternoon height is only 6’4 3/4 or 6’4 7/8? That would be you’re true height imho Since it’s the one you maintain throughout the day. Try measuring yourself out of bed and then several times in a day over an 8-10 hour timeframe. Your loss should stop around hour 7 or 8 or even before. That’ll give you a better idea. By the way I’ll be 38 on Sunday and I have lost around 2mm or maybe 1/8” to date.
Greg said on 29/Dec/19
@Justanotherguy I think you have got me confused for Bobby also since I can’t run IP addresses like Rob can I’m not sure if this is another poster who goes as someone else. I mean I know I’m really ‘over 5’10’ because I’ve been measured many times and measured myself too many times to count and not that it matters. You seem a bit dimwitted what do you mean ‘the Greg’ first of all I’m not some super villain just call me Greg and second of all you just sound like a hater projecting their insecurities into others lol. I’ve probably accomplished more in my life in a month than you have over the course of your life. For your information I did have a page on user heights although the measurement was a little messed up by 1/4th of an inch I am similar to the posted Big Josh if memory serves me correctly he is 5’11 out of bed and 5’10.25 at his lowest, I usually drop to 5’10 3/8ths a few hours out of bed 5’10.5 in the noon and 5’10.25 before bed. I’m glad I managed to rustle your jimmies though I guess you’re a little dink that’s also my biggest fan thanks for commenting! I’m guessing you’re pretty short since you sound insecure cheers.
Sakz said on 29/Dec/19
@HeightLossAtYoungAge It's probably best to get it checked out because then you'll know for sure. You shouldn't lose noticeable height at a young age. There can be small variations depending on hydration levels but that's about it.
Canson said on 29/Dec/19
Greg said on 28/Dec/19
@cmillzz 2 meals is not enough for the average person. even if you are eating 1000 calories in each, you’re supposed to eat several smaller meals throughout the day, at least a breakfast lunch and dinner and maybe a snack but maybe you have your reason for it so that’s fine. As a bodybuilder I’m eating larger big quality meals throughout the day to put on size and mass, but your goals might be different from mine.

They recommend eating 5-6 small meals per day. What Cmillz is saying though if you eat two very substantive meals that may work. They’re also now recommending something called intermittent fasting meaning eat all of your meals within an 8 hour timeframe each day. This will probably also allow you to eat the carbs you ordinarily would pass on if you’re on something like a Keto diet. They also recommend carbs be eaten early in the day as opposed to late
Canson said on 29/Dec/19
Greg said on 28/Dec/19
@cmillzz 2 meals is not enough for the average person. even if you are eating 1000 calories in each, you’re supposed to eat several smaller meals throughout the day, at least a breakfast lunch and dinner and maybe a snack but maybe you have your reason for it so that’s fine. As a bodybuilder I’m eating larger big quality meals throughout the day to put on size and mass, but your goals might be different from mine.

They recommend eating 5-6 per day. What Cmillz is saying though if you eat two very substantive meals that may work. They’re also now recommending something called intermittent fasting meaning eat all of your meals within an 8 hour timeframe each day. This will probably also allow you to eat the carbs you ordinarily would pass on if you’re on something like a Keto diet. They also recommend carbs be eaten early in the day as opposed to late
Sean william Winter said on 29/Dec/19
what is real hieght after squatting 200 lbs at gym?. or after sitting at pc. obvisous after squatting your disc get squashed so you will measure even lower than your normal low??
Justanotherguy said on 29/Dec/19
Blows my mind how the last 5 years general has been dominated by discussion of weather or not Greg is really 5'10.

Who the is Greg and why hasn't he done anything else with his life by now? And Rob, why doesn't Greg just have his own page by now?
Editor Rob
Here's a link to Greg's page on Youtube. I am sure one day he might get round to doing an out of bed measurement video.
cmillz said on 28/Dec/19
@Ben
I work out a few times per week, but not really doing heavy weight training.
cmillz said on 28/Dec/19
Breakfast and lunch I meant
Greg said on 28/Dec/19
@!Arthur *ExBoyfriend there I made the correction for you it’s okay, I think Greece has been a bit more lax with the LBGT community. It’s okay to come out of the closest Arthur I’m sure you and your boyfriend where a cute couple it’s a shame you guys broke up i am sorry to hear that 😐. He wrote you a letter? That’s awesome did it include your real measurement or not? Gee idk I type really fast and think quickly so it’s nothing for me to write that. No MLA format sorry I know you and your boyfriend were recently engaged and supposed to marry outside of the cave but I’m sorry to hear that the wedding plans crashed. Yeah I know you’re so much taller than me in a reverse backwards matrix universe that doesn’t exist 😂 what a shame. You can’t even join the 5’10 club. Yeah I do take Glucascomine you should too maybe you would edge Bobby would and not be looking at the bridge of my nose 😆 cheers my great Greek friend. Hope to hear you soon. P.S the jig is up we all know you’ll never prove your height but it’s okay maybe if you move to China you’ll feel tall best wishes :)
Greg said on 28/Dec/19
@cmillzz 2 meals is not enough for the average person. even if you are eating 1000 calories in each, you’re supposed to eat several smaller meals throughout the day, at least a breakfast lunch and dinner and maybe a snack but maybe you have your reason for it so that’s fine. As a bodybuilder I’m eating larger big quality meals throughout the day to put on size and mass, but your goals might be different from mine.
Greg said on 28/Dec/19
@Myself it’s interesting because my father who was 5’11, wore a size 13/14 and he had really big feet for his height. My shoe size is more average at 10.5-11. I know shoe size doesn’t always correlate to height but in most cases it does.
Big Ben said on 28/Dec/19
@Cmillz - Correction:

"Bodybuilding"**

"You can't build muscle or keep muscle"**

*obviously worked"**
Big King said on 28/Dec/19
People, I was always measuring my height at the doorframe about 2 or 3 hours after being awake. When I measured my height 10 years ago 2 or 3 hours after being awake, my height result was 6'5.5" or 197cm and nowadays I measure my height only 6'5" or barely 196cm, 2 or 3 hours after being awake at the doorframe. So what happened to my stature?
khaled taban said on 28/Dec/19
@Greg , I don't think It's true to consider weak 5'10" as something like 5'9.75" or 5'9 7/8ths , however this site really believe that.
By weak 5'10" I mean anything above 5'9.5" so anywhere in the 5'9.6-5'9.9" range.
khaled taban said on 28/Dec/19
@Greg, I dated a 5'10" girl (5'9.7" to be exact ) about 2 years ago , at that time I was 18 y/o and roughly 5'8" , I remember that we both wore an inch sneakers and I felt my GF was somewhat tallish next to men we walked next to.
Also , I feel I am nearly half an inch below average of younger Americans .
So based on that , your prediction of 5'9.25"-5'9.5" could be truev, I guess.
Sean william Winter said on 28/Dec/19
Click Here hey rob how tall is this he says 6'1 maybe bit less? i thought he was like 5'11 tops
Editor Rob
The only way he's 6ft 1 is if he's raised up his phone higher up than 6ft 1 and it's making him look shorter...
Myself said on 28/Dec/19
"Greg said on 25/Dec/19
Rob typically on average how tall would you expect a guy with size 13/14 feet US to be?
Editor Rob
6ft 3-4 range."
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Yeah, that's about what I wear
Big Ben said on 28/Dec/19
@cmillz - Yeah but you're probably not doing bodybuildimg like me. Look it up, I must have 0.8-1g per pound of bodyweight. That's extremely important and it has onviously worked. You can build muscle or keep those muscles you've spent years working on when losing fat if your diet is not on point. And little to no carbs (slow carbs only like brown rice or couscous) along with healthy fats like avocado or 100% natural peanut butter. I view food like the matrix. Also I must add you have to drink atleast 10 cups of water everyday to help your body's metabolism which will make you recover faster and burn more fat.
Yashgupta said on 28/Dec/19
Hey rob can hanging for few minutes increase height
Editor Rob
Lying down for 10 minutes will recoup height easier than hanging on a bar would.
HeightLossAtYoungAge said on 28/Dec/19
@daad1234: That could be it. At my last physical, my levels were like 380ng/dl, which is quite low for a 24 year old. I also have other *ahem* relevant problems. I'll definitely look into that.

@Sakz: Definitely not posture related for me. Of course since I'm tall I look down a lot, but I'm no hunchback. I try to keep my shoulders back and chest up at all times. It's certainly no worse than it was a few months ago before I lost height. I'm thinking it could be early onset osteoporosis or something, because there is no denying that I've shrunk half an inch. I just hope that it doesn't continue and reverses over time if I treat it properly. It's really strange though, I get absolutely no lower back pain. In all honesty I'd rather be 196.8cm than 198cm, but I definitely don't want to see this get worse.
cmillz said on 28/Dec/19
@Christian
I generally only eat two meals per day too, though it’s more like breakfast and dinner in my case.
cmillz said on 28/Dec/19
170g of protein seems pretty damn high for a 1500 calorie diet. I’m probably at 100g with my 2000 calorie diet.
Sakz said on 27/Dec/19
Unless you have a spinal condition or somehow damage it severely, you can't just automatically lose height at a young age. Generally it's posture related. If you continuously walk around with poor posture your body becomes used to it over a period of time, thus making you shorter. It's not permanent height loss though because you can correct it with posture exercises.
daad1234 said on 27/Dec/19
@HeightLossAtYoungAge I've read that low testosterone levels could cause osteoporosis, and therefore cause height loss. It's not common among young people, but it can happen. Google the symtoms of low testosterone levels and see if you match any of the them.
Dsmo6 said on 27/Dec/19
@HeightLossAtYoungAge
taller people usually starting to lose height sooner, and more height loss has higher chance too
EricThompson said on 27/Dec/19
I’m 5’11.5” and my shoe size for some reason has grown from a 13 to a 14. I haven’t gained much weight or anything but haven’t grown in 2-3 years. I’m 18 right now so could It be a future sign of something? I can grow a beard too which I think means the end of growth so it might just be nothing.
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 27/Dec/19
@HeightLossAtYoungAge

That username is a mouthful. But I strongly doubt you've lost any height at all. I think what's likely is that your poor posture is contributing to a measurement that is less than your optimal measurement. Additionally, how much sleep are you getting, and are you well-rested in the morning? Anyway, you're already super tall, so I wouldn't be too bothered about it. You still tower over every single guy outdoors.
Greg said on 27/Dec/19
@Bobby Arthur isn’t going to forget the past which is why I brought up what I did and it triggered him. I would just ignore him at this point he is very insecure and is demonstrating grade A projecting right now. Usually people who project their insecurities into others demonstrate the same behaviors as him. Petty insults is his speciality he received a degree for it. You’re claim is perfectly fine. I hope we are going to go back to the one year where every other post was about your height and you claiming 5’10, Arthur implies you are 5’9.5, coincidence I think not? That’s Arthurs real barefoot height 😂😂.
Greg said on 27/Dec/19
@Khaled Taban according to this site a weak 5’10 would be defined as 5’9.75-5’9 7/8ths. The American male average would not even be as high as that barefoot. It would most likely be something around 5’9.25 maybe 5’9.5 at a push but I think that would be on the higher end of average.
Arthur! said on 27/Dec/19
By the way, I didn't take the photo down. The link expired, doofus. Ask Rob.
Arthur! said on 27/Dec/19
Holy s**t lil Greg. Your essay-reply reminds me of my ex-girlfriend's rants lmao. Sure, I haven't gotten under your skin, that's why you devoted so little time to answering me!
So you are taking glucosamine too huh? I don't, so now I know I'm definitely taller than you, thanks!
HeightLossAtYoungAge said on 27/Dec/19
For those that say height loss in 20s is not possible, tell me how this happened. I'm 24, and used to consistently measure 200cm out of bed and 198cm at night in the last year. Lately, I've been measuring 199cm out of bed and 196.8cm at night for two months. Everything is the same - location of measuring, method of measuring, time of day, activity level, hydration, posture during measurement, etc. Yet I am over 1cm shorter than I used to be. How could this have happened? My posture isn't the best, but I have no lower back pain at all.
@Bego said on 27/Dec/19
@Visitor How did man range in Sweden? Like what was the most common height?
Animus said on 27/Dec/19
@Visitor

While I have a bit of lower back pain while sitting, I would be surprised if I had lost height. I hurt my back deadlifting a month ago and when I took a break, I recovered 90% within 9 days or so. I feel my back is stiffer now, but I do have a few nagging injuries/tightness in my legs that might contribute to it.
Anyways, I'm 24, so I should be good. If I have lost any height, it should be a very small amount but hopefully I haven't. If I have, that's life.
Grayloth said on 27/Dec/19
The average height of Sweden has been measured and it's around 180-181 cms for ethnial swedes. mrfunnyguy can't judge height even if his life depends on it.
mrfunnyguy said on 27/Dec/19
@Visitor Since you say that the average could be 179 cm for young swedes (guys I presume you mean), do you mean that there are more young swedish guys who are 169 cm than 190cm? Isn't that ridiculous?
Visitor said on 27/Dec/19
I see a lot of talk about Sweden here. I HAVE been to Sweden and no, there's nothing special or that different about anyones height there. It's not some mythical place where every other kid is 6'2".
I'm 181-182 cm, less than 6ft in any case and walking around Stockholm I did not feel "short" or below average at any point. The barkeep was shorter than me, one (yes, white ethnic Swede) guy who stopped me on the street to ask me if I have GPS on my cell because his battery had died or something, was about 175 cm et cetera. Whatever the statistics around the web say are probably correct. The average COULD be 179 cm or something for younger people, but more than that is like confusing inches with cm's. And people do that a lot. A cm is not much, one inch on the other hand is a VERY notable difference. Both in person and statistically.
Visitor said on 27/Dec/19
Concerning the one previous comment about a month back, about "lowballing" myself... it's not that simple. Like right now, I'm a little bit over 182 cm but I've only been up for a few hours. And I really do regularly measure absolutely anything between 180 and 183 cm. On one or two occasions in the last year, I've even measured 179.8 or 179.9 after VERY strenuous exercise.

So, what should I "claim"? Honestly. On one hand you could also say even 181 cm is lying, since I can't guarantee I'm over that mark at any and every time. I do realise that for some reason, my height varies a LOT more than most others say theirs does. After a long nights sleep I really do wake up at 183 cm and like I said, sometimes after a long day (or two days without sleep for example) I really do drop down to flat 180 cm.

I can also say that absolutely "height loss" because of poor posture and spinal problems etc. is possible at any age. I have a "weightlifting" type lower back issue that I think is similar to what Animus described, and also have always had mild scoliosis. The right kind of ab exercises SHOULD correct things and "make me taller", thing is I haven't found which exercises those are yet. When I was younger, I indeed was taller because the back problem hadn't completely manifested yet and back then I could measure even 183.5 cm. But as for "height loss", a few mm's isn't a lot relatively, and 90% of people (even Hollywood celebrities) have backs that are just fine and will measure the same at ages 20 and 45.
BigJosh said on 26/Dec/19
Hey Rob what you classify me on this site if I’m 189 cm as soon as a I wake up and go to bed at around 187 cm (often a few mm above). Also if I just turned 16 a few months ago, could I possible still grow some more even if I haven’t seen much (if any) growth during the last year or two. My wingspan I measured at 197 cm so maybe their is something their but I don’t know.
Editor Rob
Still potential to be 190cm at night, at the moment you will look about 6ft 2 to most people, even though technically you are closer to 6ft 1.5 at night.
Sean william Winter said on 26/Dec/19
what counts as normal hieght after heavy stressful day on your feet for hours after lifting. or evening after sitting at pc and measure on stadiometer i managed as high as 178.8 178.9 cm.
Greg said on 26/Dec/19
@!Arthur oh and I forgot to mention but I think you are lying about your height because of what you say about you being barely average in Greece. There’s no way the average for men is over 5’8-5’9 maybe at the most you don’t live in a Nordic country or somewhere the average is over 5’11. So you feeling average or below average for Greek men is an indicator you aren’t as tall as you claim, prove me wrong by posting a measurement not some random photo with some guy because I can do that too oh x and x is this so I must be this 😂😂 not how that works at all.
Greg said on 26/Dec/19
@!Arthur you want to know what’s funny about that Arthur? In fact you are not 1/8th of an inch taller than me (by your account)lol for one and for two you made that assessment that it ‘got under my skin’ yet there’s no indicators unless you’re projecting. Never have I ever said that it did haha you wish. In your brightest Greek lucid dreams perhaps. Even if you where 5 inches taller than me or shorter (likely the latter I wouldn’t care) it doesn’t matter in the real world. Seems you most likely exaggerating your height because why else would you not upload a measurement video. If you’re that scared to show your beautiful Greek Mug you could always blur out your face and just show the measurement. 👍 First of all way back when I remember you said you where a little over 5’10 at your lowest so wouldn’t that mean you wake up at 5’11? Alright so despite you saying you wake up at 5’11 1/8th and me at 5’11 flat give or take I drop down to 5’10 3/8ths, 5’10 would an extreme low under the worst possible conditions and guess what I haven’t measured that in years! Uh oh bad news for Arthur you can hear the rumbles throughout his cave which bounces right off his shiny bald head 😛 hopefully you polished it nicely for me before submitting this comment. I want it to shine brighter than my future or the Eiffel Tower late at night. I have damaged discs as shown by an MRI and the worst posture that was causing me to not measure to my highest. ( as confirmed by my doctor) capability. perhaps these exercises my chiropractor provided me along with my stretching and routine and glucosamine have been working for the better. I’ve even measured 5’10 5/8ths several hours out of bed uh oh... bad news for Lil Arthur.. I think a few droplets of sweat are proceeding to roll down his nervous forehead as he stares off into the horizon recalculating his calculations.

Oh and as for your ‘picture’ that has got to be the worst indicator of height. Rob said you do look similar but not exactly the same height and there was no way to prove it. You could have been any height +/- 5’9-6’0. You are just thinking of any excuse in the book to not show your height because you’re likely not the height you claim, which is fine as they say history repeats itself and the Big G prophecy has a sequel that’s going to take place this Summer in Greece our favorite Arthur staring in the main role as Big G. Sounds like you’re really insecure about all of that, I wasn’t insulting you just taking funny jabs at you to rustle your Jimmy’s and seems that it worked. I upset the poor lil Arthur. I look taller than you in photos that I have contributed, you barely looked 5’9.5 in that photo which you took down because you realized we where onto you. Also why does it upset you that Bobby claims 5’10? He has every right to claim it, he’s rounding up 1/4th of an inch that somehow mysteriously is responsible for your lack of sleep. How cute, it seems you love projecting your insecurities into others. Definitely a good trait to have. And of course you mention the toxic Andrea as your favorite poster not surprised you guys are both equally delusional. Fyi they still post here, of course you left out actual good contributors like Canson and Christian c-mo etc. speaking of c-mo why does it bother you that he states his opinions? Hell hes more active here than you just go on post a comment and go on a hiatus for a few months. If c-mo wants to repeat his interest in height he is more than welcome too. You just contradicted yourself and obviously don’t know how to plug in and use your brain. As for Connor you are right and he is now banned from this site, that should make you a little happier 1 point to you. At least you won something buddy. And Rob isn’t obligated to follow your dictations, after all it’s his website not yours. Grow up oh wait you can’t. Seems everyone’s gotten under your skin by the sounds of it little one 🙂 enjoy the Greek sun for me, if it even enters your cave.
khaled taban said on 26/Dec/19
@Greg , you could say the average height for young Americans is generally a weak 5'10" , that's the safest bet.
Bobby 5'10 (1.78m) said on 26/Dec/19
@Arthur

Mate, I thought we agreed to burying the hatchet? So, why are you going out of your way to calling me delusional? Pray tell, what have I ever done to provoke this petty insult out of you? If you have a problem with Greg, who in fact provoked you for no reason, then fine but keep me out of it. I want nothing to do with it. I won't justify myself to you anymore. So, bye.
AndrewV said on 26/Dec/19
@mrfunnyguy

A 5’10” average for young Swedes seems rather low but a 6’1” or 6’2” average is just laughable.
Emil said on 26/Dec/19
@Big King

I really doubt you have lost any height. I have measured both 0.25 inch below and 0.25 above my real height depending on the floor and wall I've been measured on.
I know the error margin in my case isn't as remarkable as in yours, but you're also more than 5 inches taller than me.
6footTom said on 25/Dec/19
@Editor Rob

By poorer posture, do you mean that poor posture makes people seem shorter or do you mean that poor posture can actually cause spinal shrinkage even as early as in our 20's? I'm 23 but people have remarked that I have poor posture, I'm starting to get a little concerned now.
Editor Rob
By developing poorer posture, the spine may have some alignment problems, meaning when you stand 'tall' for a measurement, the curvature isn't as optimal as it was age 20....which is why doing exercise/stretching may recover lost postural height.
Greg said on 25/Dec/19
Rob typically on average how tall would you expect a guy with size 13/14 feet US to be?
Editor Rob
6ft 3-4 range.
mrfunnyguy said on 25/Dec/19
@Yeah, because YOU know everything about Sweden, not me, and you are the expert of the average height in Sweden. There are SO many young swedish guys who are 5'10, and of course, there are more swedish guys who are 5'6 than 6'3. That's completely rational. 5'6 is four inches shorter than 5'10 and 6'3 is five inches taller than 5'10. Are you serious? Please tell me that you are joking that there are more swedes who are 5'6 than 6'3. You seriously make me almost angry by saying that.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 25/Dec/19
Height loss in 20’s? No way
Arthur! said on 25/Dec/19
Greg you ve also admitted in the past that you drop down to a 5'10 flat at your worst. I ve always maintained that my absolute lowest has been 5'10 1/8, hence why I am 1/8 taller than you. I also wake up at 5'11 1/8, when you admitted you wake up at 5'11. Since 2019, I started working out more often, maybe my posture is better, so I now measure at 5'10.25 at my worst, usually after working out. By the way, I dont have any feelings about me being 1/8 taller than you. It just got under your skin, so it was fun to point it out. I don't consider 1/8 of an inch a visible difference. Even if you have the exact same stats as I do, it's irrelevant. We live in different continents, it just doesn't matter.
Another thing I want to point out. I don't feel the need to post a video measurement of myself, I ve made quite a few people mad here over the years so anonymity works better for me. The moment I posted a photo of myself with the SOAD drummer and Rob admitted I looked similar range to Serj Tankian (listed here at 5'10.5) you started throwing petty insults about anything but my height (I am on propecia now and it's going great, thanks for motivating me Greg!). But I will say this: if Rob is ever interested in adding John Dolmayan the drummer to the site, I am willing to post a measurement of myself ONLY to help him estimate his height better. It's funny that most of you people on this page have contributed ZERO on the site's main goal, to estimate celebrities' heights. It's all been about autistic Connor's vitriolic rants, Bobby's kind hearted but delusional (rounded up) 5'10 is tall statements, c-mo's pathetic height rate -oh my good 179.5 cm is the best height- spamming etc. Andrea, who was a good contributor has stepped away from the site. Rob needs to to do something about this page, otherwise there's no need for comment moderation.
Editor Rob
This page has always been a free for all, with opinions varying tremendously.

A lot of it I don't agree with, but it's a forum to see what people think about height.

If I don't have the page, this stuff appears on celebrity pages and I have to delete it, but I can move it here.
Animus said on 25/Dec/19
What kind of injuries cause height loss in your 20s? I occasionally have a little lower back pain from a weightlifting injury (nothing insane and it's mostly when sitting on the toilet) and at those times I feel I stand shorter than I can, but I'm guessing you'd need something more major to cause real height loss?
Editor Rob
fractures in spine or some disc damage could cause a bit of loss.
Animus said on 25/Dec/19
Rob, are you aware of any correlation between lower back pain and height loss? And is it possible to experience height loss in your 20s save for a catastrophic injury?
Editor Rob
Some people will lose height in 20's through injuries or developing poorer posture, but I'd have thought a small percentage.
6'1guy said on 25/Dec/19
@A177 I think he's 5'11.5- 6ft range. He never stands tall though, Maybe if he did he'd be a tiny bit over 6 foot.
Poster said on 24/Dec/19
@AndrewV: I usually agree with you, but I disagree with your classifications of shorter women in your height chart. For example, I think that 5'2 could be classified as "short". If you look at 5'0 and 5'1, you'll notice that they're in very low percentiles. I'm just referring to younger white American women, by the way, so disregard this if you were being much more general.
A177 said on 24/Dec/19
How tall do you think Robbie is from Arsenal Fan Tv? he interviews fans a lot face to face
Big Ben said on 24/Dec/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8th" - Keeping the protein at 1g per pound of bodyweight when cutting is incredibly important to avoid losing muscle.

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