General Height

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Miss Sandy Cowell said on 26/Sep/20
Don't be nasty and sarcastic to Greg, cmillz. He SO doesn't deserve it.
Greg said on 25/Sep/20
@Public Enemy That’s a solid height you’re essentially a weak 6’2, I wouldn’t mind being that height at all. That would be nice and yeah I’m doing it for as long as possible. I also hang from a bad at the gym do it for 3-4 sets of 15-20 seconds each it helps decompress the spine.
Public Enemy said on 25/Sep/20
@QM6’1QM
*swimming 2 or 3 times per week
Greg said on 24/Sep/20
Some people here are spending too much time “reading between the lines” and trying to find meanings to every little thing said and it becomes falsely misinterpreted. For the most part everything is opinion based, instead of spending times literally judging and analyzing every little claim and observation. Be it average or how tall someone feels it’s just a waste of time, and to bash someone for their views is completely hypocritical. Especially since opinions are different from facts and each persons opinion is going to be different from the next. Some people don’t even think 6’0 is that tall really which is absurd, and in reality it’s fairly tall. However, you don’t see me bashing people for believing in that. Some people want to claim lows others wants to claim morning height, a measurement is a measurement. A round up or round down is just fine. There’s no height terminator walking around laser checking every person who makes a claim and saying “ oh you’re not 6’0 you are 5’11.85.999% prepare to be destroyed!” People are spending more time worrying about the little things, instead of looking at the bigger picture. Average is going to change from place to place and guarantee if someone thinks it’s one “Mark” and if it is actually measured it will be completely different from most peoples estimate. Stay classy people and get your heads out of the dirt..
Nik Ashton said on 24/Sep/20
Respect, help, and admire, others unless they cause substantial harm to a person or animal.
Public Enemy said on 24/Sep/20
@Greg
My new low is 187cm which is due to an improvement in posture. Thing is you have to stick with posture related exercise every day ie 15 mins morning and 15 mins in evening.
@QM6’1QM
Am not sure if it’s just fish oil and glucose amine that is solely responsible for posture improvement as now 2-3 times a week for the last couple of months which is an overall good work out without joint pressure.
Nik Ashton said on 24/Sep/20
I was taller than the majority of the men I observed in the Pontefract branch of Home Bargains but a fair minority of the member were close to my height, there were plenty of men in the shop and they were diverse in terms of age! 👌
Canson said on 24/Sep/20
I’m good Slim! How are you?
Canson said on 24/Sep/20
c-mo 176.2cm said on 22/Sep/20
Canson you are even more annoying than him .
and now be silent please . it is getting repetitive . stop talking about me and get over it already . enough is....

@C-Mo: first of all C-Mo, where am I talking about you? I am directing what I am saying directly to you. Notice how all of my posts are directly to you? I don’t talk behind people’s back I say it directly to them. But of course, Yet another straw man argument. And number 2, go re-read my last post to you. I didn’t discredit you at all. See what I mean with straw man arguments? I defended you. How is what I said discrediting you?

Canson said on 9/Sep/20
cmillz said on 7/Sep/20
If C-mo is a 5’9 guy, then it’s totally fair game to call Greg a 5’10 guy. Don’t see how anyone can argue against this.

Yea if you saw them back to back it’s gonna be 1” in appearance. C-Mo claims to have gained a small fraction but even if he were still at 5’9.2 or a hair over that’s gonna just look a full inch. You don’t see a difference until you get around 1.25–1.3”. If you use the numbers Greg would be Close enough to have and if C-Mo truly grew to 5’9.3 range then he’s close enough now but at 5’9.2 I think that’s closer to 5’9”. I don’t look at what someone is when they wake up per se. I look at normal low and 5 hours after being awake which is 1/8” over that mark. Like for me I elect to claim 6’4” but I used to claim 6’4 1/2” years back. I stopped when I realize I’m 6’4.25 so now I just say I’m 6’4”. I think anything in that 1/4-3/8” range is probably a weak half but 3/8 is about enough imho

Canson said on 21/Sep/20
c-mo 176.2cm said on 15/Sep/20
@Greg . wow you are one annoying brat ....

I am 177cm 2 hours out of bed . not 176.5cm . this is such a weird accusement and a weird way to discredit me . if I was 176.5cm 2 hours out of bed I would say it ..but I am not lol . I am 177cm 2 hours out of bed

have you understood it now ? I will repeat it one last time for you : 2 hours being awake I am 177cm !

Too many caveats here. And Greg isn’t talking about your height. You’re once again using straw man arguments to dismiss the real topic which is you getting upset when people tell you you aren’t a certain height yet you telling people they shouldn’t round down. If you want to claim 5’9.5 that’s fine. Don’t tell others they’re “autistic” for rounding down then. As far as Being realistic, we use afternoon heights so rounding up to 5’9.5 is fine at 5’9.3”. For Greg rounding up from 5’10 3/8 and claiming 5’10.5 is fine. But don’t get upset when people round down their own height

You do that to both of us and did it with JDubbz and Christian where you try to take the attention away from the real issue and play the persecution card when in reality it’s you that has the issue. So what if he says your low is a certain amount etc. that isn’t the point. And Why is it annoying, C-Mo? Because you’re insecure with your height? You get angry at everyone else here who doesn’t use a morning height of some sort. I really don’t think you want me to go resurrect older posts of you calling the act of rounding down autistic or other diatribes of yours in that regards.

So now all of these people ganging up on Greg can’t be done this time because I posted the posts in question right here so you can’t go and try to change the topic or embellish what someone else says like you do me and him at times. That’s why all of this has happened. Greg began the discussion (and ill provide proof if needed) to say that you go in on people who claim their lows. If you don’t believe in it then fine. But you in turn got upset with Greg for not considering you 5’9.5”. Talk about a double standard? And you deviated the discussion from that topic to one that has to do with your height in an attempt to make it look as if you are being victimized. That’s the real story and you and I both know it (along with Greg). Whatever you all are discussing about your personal height being 5’9.7 or 5’9.5 no one cares. I’ve said many times that you claiming 5’9.5 is fair which you can see in my posts above. So all of these guys jumping in and saying Greg is out of line need to really see what is going on. They haven’t seen it because the posts leading up to it aren’t read and the discussion has gone way off topic with your wild tangents and Straw man arguments.
Greg said on 24/Sep/20
@Ricky84 Again, you’re misinterpreting what I am saying. 6’4 is fairly tall but it’s not going to be tall enough to the point where everyone is going to be staring you down and random strangers will be asking your height. Maybe a few times at parties with friends or something they might ask your height but on the street you won’t be stared down or approached. 6’6+ however many will start to look at you while you are walking. Eye catching to me personally would be over 6’6+ 6’8+ definitely. That’s also the height where life starts to get a little difficult, Canson can vouch that 6’4 is a good height and isn’t going to bring you too many difficulties in life. Stop twisting my words.
Greg said on 24/Sep/20
@cmillz No by percentiles a 5’10 flat guy is 64th percentile which is above average 5’10.5+ afternoon is start of tallish for me. So 5’10.5-5’10.75” is definitely tallish/ above average. 6’0+ is tall and 6’2+ is very tall this is all in U.S and from my observation many will agree with me and some won’t so I could care less who does or doesn’t. 👍
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 24/Sep/20
@ Blanc - Just go ahead and join in!

😁👍
Darren B said on 24/Sep/20
Greg, this is a question for you or anyone else who can answer it, Greg I am just about the same height as you I think 5’10.5 or 5’10.75 I have long legs, my legs are the same length as my 6’2 friend and it’s longer than my mate who is 6’ft, I should be taller than my 6ft friend but he’s torso is longer than mine, I have a short/medium torso, do you think my torso can ever get longer with exercise etc? I am 26

I’m fairly happy with my height I was just wondering cos of I’ve seen a comment about Greg & we have similar proportions and height
cmillz said on 24/Sep/20
So Greg, by your logic, a 5’10 guy must be way above average and entering the tall category, right?
Blanc said on 24/Sep/20
@Van Halen Hey, how can I join the chat group?
Nik Ashton said on 23/Sep/20
@ Slim 6'1" - I-N-T-E-R-E-S-T-I-N-G!
Slim 6'1" said on 23/Sep/20
Life’s hard, but it’s all about looking on the bright side of it all
Slim 6'1" said on 23/Sep/20
Canson, how are you bro?
Slim 6'1" said on 23/Sep/20
Canson I talk about evening lows not afternoon and out of bed heights
Zober said on 23/Sep/20
@181guy Just stop replying to him. I have given up. No one agrees with him but he still thinks he is right. If he fells above average it is because he compares himself to hispanics and asians. When he doesnt know how to reply he ignores comments.
AndrewV said on 23/Sep/20
@Olympian

I was speaking about my experience around White Americans in particular, not among Asians or on a global scale. That's why I made a point to say that no one except Asian friends or family remarked on my height when I was 179cm: I was above average and fairly tall around Asians but very average around white and black americans. Also, you're wrong on Greeks, the average for young Greeks ages 18-26 is 178.1 cm based on measured military data: Click Here.

5'10" is the measured average height for White American men ages 20-39 (Click Here), the average is 5'9" when ALL age groups and races are included. I'm sorry, but the idea of you only knowing two guys who your height while living in Canada is laughable considering that the US and Canada have similar averages. I'm 6'0.5" and while I feel slightly tall I still see men my height or taller literally every time I go out here in the US. I agree that 179cm is slightly tall for young Asian men, but it is an average height around non-hispanic white Americans. At 179cm, I was always described as "normal" or "average" (which it objectively is) by white and black friends in the few times my height even came up.

I don't know what your angle is, but you and Greg seem to have this selection bias where you try to make yourselves out to be taller than you actually are. I'm sorry, but at 5'10" you're very average in the Western world, including in Greece and North America; you'd only be marginally above average if we were to include shorter minorities and old people. In some taller Western countries, you'd be below average. There's no need to act so smug and smarmy just because I don't think you're above average, much less tall.
Olympian said on 23/Sep/20
@Slim

Do you mean me? I am very confused right now. If you were referring to me, then I grew an inch and change from 5'9 to be the height I am today. I was probably a weak-flat 5'9 before my 21st birthday where I seemed to grow an inch and a change. I seem to buffer around 5'9 7/8s these days, so 5'10. That's just the average.
Greg said on 23/Sep/20
@Canson I agree a lot of guys here are using straw men arguements and keep trying to attack me. I see other users like Zober, 181guy and C-mo himself of course projecting insecurities and trying so hard to say anything to prove their points which don’t exist to begin with. Also in my case I could claim anything between 5’10-5’11 depending what I wanted too. I normally just say 5’11 in real life. And on here I say almost 5’11, but usually I will be 5’10 5/8ths a few hours out of bed that just easily rounds up to 5’11. C-mo seems to be an angry man like Gerson aka Van Halen and the Brady bunch along with Zober and the peanut gallery.
Greg said on 23/Sep/20
@Zober you’re getting to worked up about this I never said that I am very tall nor do I want to be. I get referred to as “ kind of tall or tallish usually” and that’s not much of an achievement you sound very salty. Lol, keep getting those looks for walking around there might be another reason behind it like Jdubbz said. Also you’re projecting pretty hard, I wasn’t insulting you just speaking the truth but if the shoe fits wear it and run in the fields. Since when is about 5’11 average in America? But okay whatever floats your boat and it gets it across the river! Little jimmy is angry he is projecting 😂 I’m literally saying how I feel when I walk around and also what other people say about me never have I been called average nice try though.
Greg said on 23/Sep/20
@181guy I measure 5’11 early in the day and I am close to it literally a fraction away? What lol you’re also delusional I am 5’11.75 in my airmaxes and in my 720’s I am 6’0 3/8ths so try again. I am also referred to as “tallish or kind of tall” and by guys who are a little taller than me. I think you should stop being so one sided an open to other views that way you won’t be so closed minded. I’m from the United States. You sound like you’re projecting pretty hard.
Greg said on 23/Sep/20
@181guy I did respond to you, my post got lost in the other comments. You’re acting as if what you say can’t be argued for opinion. I said the average is 5’9 in America, Zober doesn’t even live in America and is being extremely bias. No one takes you seriously because you are insecure at 5’11 range which makes me even question your height because 5’11 guys should feel above average and even tallish. That’s first and foremost. Also your statistic can be argued this is all opinion based even what I say because we didn’t personally go and measure a sample size of people. And that moron is trolling and is jealous that I regained some height because I’m correct my scoliosis and I think it’s entertaining somebody actually went out of their way to try and make up fake scenarios they must have a lot of time on their hands. 5’10.5 is about 70ths percentile in U.S maybe a little less like 68 which still rounds to 70. 5’10.75” is about 70 range too. I don’t understand what the issue is with what I’m saying. Nice try there.
Greg said on 23/Sep/20
@Public Enemy oh cool, how tall are you now? Yeah I’ve been doing the same thing. I haven’t gotten a chance to go swimming, but honestly stretching and doing solo drills and exercises. My friends gym has a stretching machine and that also helps as well.
Canson said on 23/Sep/20
@Slim: if anything, I grew to 6’4.25-.3 from the full 6’4” when I was around 18. Perhaps even 17. I measured 6’4” flat I believe my Junior or senior year and got 6’4.5 when I was measured at basketball practice as a freshman in college. Then again it was probably not a low and probably rounded up a bit
QM6'1QM said on 23/Sep/20
Public Enemy said on 22/Sep/20

Does glucosamine and fish oil have any difference ?!
It's just interest, but i trust you.

P.S. And how tall are you ? :)
Jdubbz said on 23/Sep/20
@c-mo:

For what it's worth, your English is great for a non native speaker. Anyone who speaks and understands English will have 0 difficulty understanding what you are trying to say.
Jdubbz said on 23/Sep/20
@Canson:

Not 100% sure, but yeah I'm betting that I'm done for good. I didn't really gain much from 22-23, whereas I gained a good 1.5" from 21-22. My low as of the past 3 months is consistently 6'5 3/4" or 197.5cm, hence why I said 197-198cm in my previous reply to Zober. Whether that was an actual 2mm or so of growth or just a result of reduced activity from staying at home is unknown to me, but in either case it's probably my final height. I don't think I'll ever make it to legit 6'6 territory, but i'll measure myself again in a few years to see. Fingers crossed lol

@Olympian:

AndrewV is quoting actual data whereas you are just referencing anecdotes. It's all fine and dandy that you feel taller than the average greek man, but Andrew is correct that the average young white male in western countries is right around 5'10, and that the overall average in countries like the US is roughly 5'9.5. Also, I find it incredibly hard to believe that you're one of the tallest guys around among a group of young men in Greece at 5'10 or that you were called tall at such a height. I'm not sure about Greece or Canada, but in a typical place in the US, you'd be completely average among young white men. In some places marginally above, in others marginally below.

@Zober:

Chill dude, I wasn't trying to invalidate your experiences. However, you did say on 5/September that you "get many weird looks and comments" at your height, which is different than saying that you get occasional glances. You are 191cm, which is legitimately tall. Of course it's believable that you get glances at that height. I was under the impression you meant that people gave you weird looks or double takes, as if you were a freak or something. Apologies for the misunderstanding. The reason I didn't call out Greg for saying that he's tallish at 179cm even though I disagree with him is that I don't want to get into an argument with him. I was your height not long ago, and I feel I can have a reasonable conversation with you, hence why I'm asking you. I agree with you that some posters here seem to be making country averages lower than they really are, to purposely bolster the perception of their own heights. Greg is saying that the overall US average is 5'8.5, which is about an inch below what the CDC data says, and not what I have personally noticed. Also, as you can see above, Bobby/Olympian is saying that he was repeatedly called tall at 5'9.75 or 5'10, whatever he is, which to me sounds ridiculous. I can buy that he's very slightly above average in certain places at that height, but not tallish, let alone tall.
Ricky84 said on 23/Sep/20
@Greg so someone who is 6'4 is not eye catching for you? Huh. Like is much more taller than you so what are u saying?
Slim 6'1" said on 23/Sep/20
Canson growth ends about 17-20 years old but some on a rare occasion like DiCaprio & Costner grew into their 20s

What did @Bobby reach? U don’t have to share if u don’t want to
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 22/Sep/20
@Greg

You add 1 cm to your low height, that is the reason why i claimed sometimes 171.8 cm in my lowest.
You think you are taller than 5'10.5" guys, so if i say 5'7.75"... you are going to think i am 5'7 3/8 because you add 1 cm to your lowest height.
I am very honest with my height and confident.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 22/Sep/20
@Rob

What is the meaning of Solid? I think that is the low height right?
Editor Rob
They might not fall under 5ft 10, or if they did a tiny amount by night.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 22/Sep/20
@Greg

Nobody think i am under 172.1 cm in the website because i never said i am shorter in my lowest than 171.8 cm.
You said i am 5'7, 5'7.5, 5'7.75 and 5'8...

Even Olympian knows you didnt grow.
Public Enemy said on 22/Sep/20
@Greg
I have been regularly taking glucosamine and perform stretching exercises in the last 2 months and am measuring 1 cm taller. If you want to correct your anterior pelvic tilt would also recommend swimming 2-3 times a week regularly if possible.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 22/Sep/20
@Greg

I destroyed you in the chat group two days ago. Your comments are poems.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 22/Sep/20
@Greg

My diction is perfect in my language and for reed in english.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 22/Sep/20
@Greg I never talk to someone from your friends from celebheights
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 22/Sep/20
@Greg

I never used my mouth for talk to you.... you are crazy of fury.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 22/Sep/20
@Greg

I do not need to respond to your ridiculous and desperate comments. Your comments are because you feel offended with the truth and you try to believe things for avoid hurting you more.
People like you live very frustrated and suffer from problems.
AndrewV said on 22/Sep/20
@stevezero

I can't speak for Minnesota, but in most places on the East and West Coast younger whites seem to be about 5'10" on average. I go to a majority white and upper-middle class university in the South and most white guys I see on campus are 5'9"-5'11".

Here's CDC data from 1974-2016, you will find that the median height for non-hispanic white men in their 20s and 30s has stagnated at around 5'10" for a long time.

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Although there's no national, comprehensive study regarding the height of white college students specifically, I did find one released in 2018 indicating a measured average of slightly under 5'10" (and a self-reported one that is near 5'11") for college students in Utah with over 80% of the sample being non-hispanic white. If you were to exclude the 16% of non-whites sampled, the average would probably be around a solid 5'10" as also seen in the CDC data: Click Here
6'1guy said on 22/Sep/20
@Luke Heinz

In the pic with you he looks 6'1, but you said he has footwear advantage. So my guess is barefoot your dad is probably in the 6'0 - 6'0.5 range. You agree Rob?
Greg said on 22/Sep/20
@Rob Yeah Rob while that holds true you did not answer my question. I’m asking who is behind DojoMaster or do you not recognize this user? Is it someone who’s posted before? Could you please answer my question? Thank you, hope you’re staying safe during this time.
Editor Rob
They used another name once, but I don't know if it's a long-term visitor.
Olympian said on 22/Sep/20
@AndrewV

You couldn't be more mistaken if you tried. Even amongst my countrymen, Greeks, I felt above average. I was frequently told I was tall, not only am I the tallest male in my family but even around younger Greek males, I was above average. There were only two other guys around my height, one who edged me out by an inch or so, and another who I edged out by 3/4s of an inch. And that was at a concert with hundreds of people and I was still one of the tallest people in attendance. I won't even mention the tourists at the Acropolis where I was still above average for a European male, the only guys that towered me were the German tourists. I saw one guy in sandals that I estimated to be over 6'4, perhaps 6'5 or so. But 5'10 is not the average height for a white guy, especially a young one. Far from it. You can argue that 5'10 is the European average, but you're still going to see differences based on where you go in Europe. The Greek average was perhaps 5'9 at a push and that was for younger guys, and you might think that one inch isn't enough to push into the above-average range but it is. In Canada, I only know/knew like two guys my height. But one guy is Romanian and the other guy is maybe Irish/Scottish, and I can tell because of the red hair. For an Asian guy, you were tall at 179cm as most Asians I see, even born here, are under 5'8.

Your argument only has credence in Europe if we tallied up all the height averages for men, but the worldwide average is still 5'8 for men. So, 5'10 is internationally above average and 6'0 is the start of tall.

Kudos for trying though.
181guy said on 22/Sep/20
@Zober ..Greg should get his facts straight. I would be surprised if anyone here agrees with this guy. 5'9/175.2 is the overall height in America and Greg thinks it's "about 5'8.5". It makes no sense. He calls 5'10.5 "or" 5'10.75 around 70th percentile in the U.S. I then proved him wrong and so didn't respond to the post. There's even another user using a different nickname trying to mock him lol.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 22/Sep/20
Slim, a guy that measure close to 186cm should stick with claiming 6ft1 (but would get away with 6ft2) while a 187cm guy is better off claiming 6ft2
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 22/Sep/20
Slim 6'1" said on 21/Sep/20
@Greg, I still think it’s better for 186-187 guys to claim 6’1” & not 6’2

To be honest they could really say either since they’re right between them.
c-mo 176.2cm said on 22/Sep/20
Canson you are even more annoying than him . he said that I am 176.5cm 2 hours out of bed which is NOT true so I had to tell him for the 1000th time now that I am 177cm 2 hours out of bed . maybe he has understood by now ...even though I doubt it because he lives in his own world. lol at you guys just lol . the attempt to discredit me is hilarious . first greg criticizes my english and then he even has the nerve to accuse me of being 176.5cm 2 hours out of bed and now you quote me even though I just told him that I am not 176.5cm 2 hours after waking up . I dont know what the f... you want from me right now . do I have to accept the wrong claims about my height ? wtf

and regarding the claiming controversy ....we already discussed that and its over . you are beating on a dead horse really . everybody shall claim whatever they want . if a 179cm morning and 177.2cm night guy wants to claim 177cm so be it . but I have the right to find it idiotic . but to each their own

and now be silent please . it is getting repetitive . stop talking about me and get over it already . enough is enough
Canson said on 22/Sep/20
Slim 6'1" said on 21/Sep/20
@Greg, I still think it’s better for 186-187 guys to claim 6’1” & not 6’2”

There are too many unknowns. Are we talking 186-187 afternoon height, meaning at a low? Or are we talking a bit earlier in the day? If it’s afternoon height of 6’1.5 or above, I would call it a weak 6’2”. I feel 6’1.5 is a fair claim if someone falls into the 6’1 1/3 to 5/8” range and then above that mark 6’2”.
stevezero said on 22/Sep/20
@AndrewV

Different states have different height of younger White Americans here. You think White students in Minnesota have the same height as peers in California? I think you need to understand studnets are from everywhere in a university. So it dones.t count local students' height. If you want to know height of the newest generation in local, you need to go to each city/towns to visit their high schools. You will see a different situation. To be honest, one of my classes have 2 guys who are above 6'7, and they are not athletes. Since you mentioned athletes, I would like to tell you, most tall Americans are not athletes, they are only tall normal people.

And since you insist on the median height for white Americans hasn't changed since the 1970s, please provide evidence. As far as I know, CDC or other official insitutes have never released the average height of highschoolers or college students in US, not to mention for young White studnets. If you have, please share the links, otherwise don't reply me forever.

And I said I need official articles, don't give some researchers' paper, which are meaningless.
stevezero said on 22/Sep/20
@AndrewV

Different states have different height of younger White Americans here. You think White students in Minnesota have the same height as peers in California?

And since you insist on the median height for white Americans hasn't changed since the 1970s, please provide evidence. As far as I know, CDC or other official insitutes have never released the average height of highschoolers or college students in US, not to mention for young White studnets. If you have, please share the links, otherwise don't reply me forever.

And I said I need official articles, don't give some researchers' paper, which are meaningless.
stevezero said on 22/Sep/20
@AndrewV I don't know how can you be so sure "young whites today have the same average height as millennial and middle aged whites." And there are thousands and thousands high schools in US, how can you be so sure"I doubt there are schools with a 6' average in the US unless you're surveying a disproportionate amount of athletes" . Do you visit each school in US? Do you have each school's measurements? If you don't, why you say no school can be 6' average. Belive it or not, when I was senior, the average height of senior was closed to 6'. Is it too hard for you? There are a huge gap of height among schools and colleges in US.

You went to a university with 5'10 on average, it dones't mean there are not taller schools. I think you use your uni to try to talk about the whole younger generation.

By the way, I have met many freshmen these days, I am junior, they(White & Black) are obviously taller than my peers.Asian and hispinic are still much shorter.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 21/Sep/20
@Olympian

They are a band, Van Halen is not a singer... you still keep playing video games..
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 21/Sep/20
@Olympian

I dont know who are you
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 21/Sep/20
@Olympian

I am a good guitar player, i am a shred and i know a lot about rock and metal music. Even i can play some songs without see the chords.
Slim 6'1" said on 21/Sep/20
@Greg, I still think it’s better for 186-187 guys to claim 6’1” & not 6’2”
Slim 6'1" said on 21/Sep/20
@Greg, read up on rob kardashian & OJ Simpson.
It’s super interesting
Poster said on 21/Sep/20
@Glitch: She would be 5'7. That's equivalent to a 6'0 man.

@Sakz: There are theories that intelligence is linked to height too. I won't open that can of worms since things are so PC and woke now.
Canson said on 21/Sep/20
@Jdubbz: is it safe to say you’re done growing?
Greg said on 21/Sep/20
@Van Halen I said between 5’7 and 5’9 so about 5’8.5 for men overall in America. In no way shape or form are men in the U.S 5’7 on average that’s way below average even entering the short category. And I’m not angry just it’s remarkable that someone can be so stupid like you.
Greg said on 21/Sep/20
@Myself It depends on a few things like where you are, how tall the observer is and what the circumstances are. From my experience 6’4 is pretty tall but not really tall enough that I would “look at heir height” 6’6 is pretty stand out to me though. 6’5 could be that range too, and yeah almost 5’11 is just a few inches shorter than a 6’2-6’3 guy seems Zober is going on a power trip there.
Greg said on 21/Sep/20
Rob who is behind DojoMaster? I’m curious who’s behind that account they likely post under another nick name and I kind of recognize the tone of their text. Could you check their IP address and see who they are?
Editor Rob
there are a few people who have a bit of fun with alter-egos, though it is best to stick with one genuine moniker.
Rodolfo said on 21/Sep/20
Hello, I am 190.3 cm straight out of bed in the morning and a hair over 188 cm at night, how tall should I say I am?
C Brady said on 21/Sep/20
@ greg yes, your proportions are ideal like chris brown in a way, with long arms and legs. you are very lucky because a lot of guys have longer torsos and shorter legs from what i have seen. the shorter torso guys don't shrink as much in a day.
181guy said on 21/Sep/20
@Greg 5'10.5-5'10.75" isn't tallish, in the afternoon or whenever. You aren't close to 6'0 ...and you still measure under the 5'11 mark. I don't believe or trust anything you write about averages or percentiles. Also what part of the world or country are you from?..I'm curious.
Zober said on 21/Sep/20
@greg chill out... You insulted me and i was only defending myself and you say i have only several brain cells? You are insulting me because you are full of crap and make up nonsense to battle your insecurities and i called you out for it. And why do you take glucosamine? You are sad average height guy trolling a forum into believing that you are above average. You dont know how to answer my statements and that makes you very angry.
Zober said on 21/Sep/20
@jdubzz I get glances and looks ocasionaly. Not always. Why is it hard to understand. A guy with your height doesnt think anything special about 191 cm but too a 170 cm man it can look huge... Why is that not believable to you but greg saying that he who is 179 cm gets called tallish is since you arent saying anything to him...
6'3 Julian said on 21/Sep/20
@khaled taban what do you mean “good height”? You judging people’s worth by something they can’t control?
Canson said on 21/Sep/20
c-mo 176.2cm said on 15/Sep/20
@Greg . wow you are one annoying brat ....

I am 177cm 2 hours out of bed . not 176.5cm . this is such a weird accusement and a weird way to discredit me . if I was 176.5cm 2 hours out of bed I would say it ..but I am not lol . I am 177cm 2 hours out of bed

have you understood it now ? I will repeat it one last time for you : 2 hours being awake I am 177cm !

Too many caveats here. And Greg isn’t talking about your height. You’re once again using straw man arguments to dismiss the real topic which is you getting upset when people tell you you aren’t a certain height yet you telling people they shouldn’t round down. If you want to claim 5’9.5 that’s fine. Don’t tell others they’re “autistic” for rounding down then. As far as Being realistic, we use afternoon heights so rounding up to 5’9.5 is fine at 5’9.3”. For Greg rounding up from 5’10 3/8 and claiming 5’10.5 is fine. But don’t get upset when people round down their own height
Dusked said on 21/Sep/20
hi rob, has the average height of a man changed much since 1995-2000 in your country?
Editor Rob
Not changed much more than a several mm's over last 20 years.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Sep/20
Slim 6'1" said on 15/Sep/20
Christian, help me find odd jobs to do nearby, I really need help
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Luke Heinz said on 20/Sep/20
Rob, I’m 5’9.75, how tall do you think my dad is on the right, he probably had somewhere between a quarter and a half inch footwear advantage. He claims 6’2 but I think he’s more weak 6’

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Editor Rob
Wouldn't have thought he was under 6ft there, he may have lost a little height and claimed his shoe height.
Nik Ashton said on 20/Sep/20
All heights (all genders) = cool
All genders = cool
All sexual orientations = cool
All races = cool
All skin colours = cool
All religions = cool

There are many others I haven’t listed.

Basically everything is cool unless harm is done to a person, animal, the environment, anything. 👌
Nik Ashton said on 20/Sep/20
@ khaled taban 175.3cm - It’s what you do with your life that counts. Rob ain’t genetically poor and he does a lot of good things with his life and if he was 4’3” he would wear it with pride. He is an example to us all.
Nik said on 20/Sep/20
@ Minister - You live in a mighty tall region, it ain't even like that in Ho‼️and but your region ain't as tall as basketba‼️❗️and!
Nik said on 20/Sep/20
5'8"🔜🗣 "I'm 6 feet"! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

5'11"🔜🗣 "I'm 6 feet 3"! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hyper said on 20/Sep/20
@Slim 6’1”

A common job to look for is a Janitor. You can work at a retail store, but I heard that can be stressful. You could work as a cashier too or even a mailman or apply for a position at a postal office. No college degrees required.

If you’re looking for a proper Education that doesn’t involve biases, Trade School would be awesome. Though you will need to be specific on which skill set you want to do. I want to get into Trade School as a Locksmith. (I was going to go for a Plumber or an Electrician, but my dad suggested trying out for a locksmith.)
Myself said on 20/Sep/20
@Greg
Well i wouldn't agree with the fact that people don't bat an eye until you're closer to like 2 meters (like you're saying).
At 6'4 i do catch people's attention when passing nearby, of course not always and it's nothing too extreme or anything, but still, the difference is pretty noticeable.
But i agree that from a 6'2-6'3 perspective 5'10.5 certainly wouldn't look short, lol. Even from my perspective i wouldn't feel like i am absolutely dwarfing a person that height, despite the big difference.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 20/Sep/20
When i am in my lowest its very easy for my spine recover 1/4 of inch in some minutes.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 19/Sep/20
CDC says the average height is 5'9 5/8 (a pretty fair average height if we don't count the bust a gut measurement and if we go with 5-6 hours out of bed)
6'0 is the 80 th percentile according to this average height of 5'9 5/8, that means a legit tall height in US.
The 20 th percentile is 5'7.25", but i think that still being short in US because the proportions of 5'7 and 5'7.25 are pretty similar.

Source: Click Here

You need to put 19.9 years for a good calculation.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 19/Sep/20
Greg said on 11/Jun/20
@Tidus0816 I would more or less put 5’7-5’9 as the average range 5’10/5’11 as above average and 6’0 as the start of tall. Despite what anyone says in regards to that this is my opinion and from observing heights across the world I have come to that conclusion. 6’0 seems to be a magical number that guys think is ideal for someone to be. Unfortunately you can’t change society and everyone’s ideal is going to be different from the next persons. I don’t think you should be tired of people saying their opinions. A lot of guys lie about their height and majority of women prefer guys to be 6’0 or taller according to surveys of popular dating apps. Also the guys that can’t pull off trying to claim 6’0 will often claim 5’11 or 5’10. Or even 5’9 and the list goes on height fraud is another contributing factor towards inflation and 6’0 being the GOAT height in a sense.
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@Greg you said even 5'7 is average... you often are very angry with me haha.
Nik Ashton said on 19/Sep/20
@ Greg - I’ve known guys not much taller than me claim 6’0”!
Nik Ashton said on 19/Sep/20
@ Greg - 👮‍♀️!
Jdubbz said on 19/Sep/20
@Zober:

I also find it somewhat hard to believe that you'd get weird looks or comments at 6'3, especially in a country with a 5'10.5+ average. I mean no disrespect, but are you sure that those looks/comments are because of your height alone, and not your appearance in general? I was 191cm several years ago and also got weird looks at the time, but in hindsight it was more because of my fashion sense and overall demeanor. Now at 197-198cm I still get glances and height related questions, but fewer "weird" looks and double takes. I'd think that you wouldn't get gawked at for your height until above the 2 meter mark, especially in taller European countries
AndrewV said on 19/Sep/20
I honestly can't see a 179cm range guy getting described as tallish or even above average in the West. That's only a little over an inch above the national average and at most 1cm over the average for young white men. When I was that height, hardly anyone outside of Asian friends and family ever remarked on my height and the few times my height did come up I was always described as "average" or "regular". Following a normal distribution, you'd probably have to be between 2-3 inches above the average to be tallish/above average (75th percentile) which would be 5'11"-6'0" in the US depending on the age group and demographic. The start of legit tall would be 3+ inches over average (84th percentile), so 6'0"-6'1" again depending on the age group and demographic in question.
AndrewV said on 19/Sep/20
I wouldn't peg a 6'0" average for young Scandinavians and Germans, more like a solid 5'11". The Netherlands and a few Balkan states are the tallest countries on record and they have a ~6'0" average.
179Guy15yrOld said on 19/Sep/20
@khaled taban 175.3cm Unless you live in the Netherlands, 5 10 as a afternoon measurement is solidly above average. In the United States where I live, the average for 20 year old white males, the tallest demographic, is actually a mm or 2 below 177, being 178 cm would make you a solid half inch above average. If anything there is a percentage in the sample that measures less than hour after waking up or don't take their shoes off, so a legit 178 afternoon guy is almost an inch above the average. Also by saying that below 5 10 is short is essentially saying 60 percent, almost the vast majority of the male population is short which is fallacious in many ways.
Olympian said on 19/Sep/20
@Van Halen

I'd be astonished if you even knew the artist/singer, but I won't go that far.

Back when CelebHeights still had the User Heights page, Greg submitted a video of his morning measurement where he came in at 5'11.25. How you think he looks any less than 5'10.5 is beyond me. If anything, 59.75-5'10 is actually my height. Good job, it seems you can't tell the two heights apart after all. I'm the 5'10 guy, Greg is closer to 5'11.
Olympian said on 19/Sep/20
@khalad

I don't think I've ever read anything this moronic on CelebHeights since I first began using it some four years ago. What is your problem, exactly? Are you so unsatisfied with your height that you have to project your insecurity onto others? Do you realize there are men much shorter than yourself that would kill to be 5'9? If it bothers you so much, wear lifts. Or you can spend thousands of dollars to break your legs and spend a year in recovery, so you can be taller. The end result will surely mean spending a fortune because you can't stand being 5'9. You disgust me. I've seen guys as small as 5ft and they don't let it hold them back. What's your excuse? "Oh boo hoo, I'm under 5'10." Grow a pair, seriously. You make all men look bad.
Vaskianino said on 19/Sep/20
Rob what’s your opinion about nike airzoom tempo next , the heel is 4.6 cm
46mm , How much height you think they give ??
Editor Rob
Not seen that one closely, but it's got a moon racer look to it...those don't give as much as you would think (3cm) but the tempo's look like the insole sits higher (the amount of material above the sole is greater than that on the moon racer)...so it may well be closer to 4 than 3cm.
Greg said on 19/Sep/20
@Van Halen172.1cm Lol Van Halen wanna be fan boy, I am not talking you seriously. My friends are not height aware most of them think they are at least 2 inches taller than their true height. Their assesment isn't accurate because at one point my friend who was 5'9 asked me if I was 6'0 and told me "I must be 6'0 because I look like I am that tall" And he was just trying to make his claim work. He's a bit over 5'9 and I am closer to 5'11. I have never been guessed shorter than 5'11-6'2 in photos. Only one person troll guessed me at 5'7. That's funny how you seem to have a poor judgement for height saying at best I look 5'9.75-5'10. I can make a measurement video to prove myself and shut you down. Maybe you look 5'6-5'7 at best and are jealous. Lol I am always 5'11.5-5'11.75 in shoes so it's funny that you say I barely look 5'10, if i use angles to my advantage I can easily look 6'1 in photos.
Greg said on 19/Sep/20
@Zober I have a tilt in my back and got diagnosed with a bit of scoliosis and you're sitting here telling me not to try and improve my posture? Ah, right just say screw everything and not focus on my health at all. You have just about as many brain cells as those fake natural bodybuilders who say they are natural in order to sell and promote their cookie cutter supplements to young kids who don't know any better. Seriously, you have no idea what you're talking about. I do those stretches to improve my posture and health. And since I am gaining some height out of it that's cool too, not my main concern. But since you're sitting here trolling like a clown. I am going to refer to you as the clown of celeb heights. Perhaps you should change your username to such. Also no it is not bs of what I said, you have no idea what you are talking about so I don't agree with a single word that comes out of your mouth.
Greg said on 19/Sep/20
@C Brady actually I have long legs and long arms with my short torso and I think my head is average sized. My proportions are good for my height and constantly makes people guess me to be taller.
Greg said on 19/Sep/20
@Khaled Taban 175.3cm First of all I am essentially 5'11, almost 5'11 is the same thing and no not everybody has to go or judge by evening height that's first and foremost. Secondly, I usually close enough and I just say 5'10.75" over here since I measure pretty close to that several hours out of bed like 5'10 5/8ths-5'10.6 thats basically right there. I never said I was as tall as someone who's like 6'3 or 6'4 but I would say I am kind of tall which is the same thing as tallish. And yeah I would say 5'10 flat is above average, nah closer to 5'11 is tallish say 5'10.5-5'10.75" in the noon. Also last time I checked you are contradicting yourself I remember you said you felt barely average and short at 5'9, insecure you hate your height and wish you where taller. And said 5'10+ is good and you would love to be that height or taller and now you're going back and saying that it's not. You are contradicting everything you are talking about and no one here is going to take you seriously. Most guys won't even make it to 5'10 let alone taller. There's way more guys shorter than 5'10 then there are at that height and taller and if you think otherwise then you must be uneducated. The young generation does not average 5'9.5 at least not in my city. Maybe you can make an arguement for just over 5'9 like 5'9flat maybe a bit over. Europe and some other places perhaps; but it all depends on where you live and everyones perception is going to be different. And no that's not how it works you could not be genetically deficient and still end up short. Dude what on earth are you talking about? Seriously go troll somewhere else. 5'10 is just fine. Just because you're insecure doesn't mean you have to project them onto other people.
karowkel said on 19/Sep/20
khaled taban 175.3cm
" being below 5'10" is obviously an eternal hellfire. "


what a hell are you talking about? ofc height as anything in looks matter, but you acting like its like being in a wheelchair, or being blind.

life is harder when you are short, but its not impossible.
as you or others here said, I think you need some kind of therapy. your problem is not your height, your problem is your mindset.
there are lot of people in the history, in media, or anywhere who was respected, taken seriously, had lot of money etc.. and was below 5'5. so why are you complaining as a 5'9 guy?
Glitch said on 19/Sep/20
If a Male is 6’0 then what height should be considered for a female as same as a male’s 6 feet?
grizz said on 19/Sep/20
Minister said on 17/Sep/20
Someone mentioned Serbia, so to say my impressions
In Serbia there is slight variation between regions, west probably being the tallest, also Belgrade as a capitol, where a lot of people have origin from present day Montenegro, Hercegovina and other DinaricAlps regions, north being the shortest due multicultural structure of the region, but overall I would say that most people fall between 178cm and 193cm, there is approx 17%,18% of people above 190cm, and above 190cm is def. more common then under 175cm. Single most common height for men is probably around 185cm in my opnion. People above 2m are not rare, but not super common either. For women take away 10 to 15cm.
I am 188cm and I feel kind of in upper average zone.

@Minister, I completely agree with you and can confirm that (since I'm from Croatia). It's interesting that 2 m guys are not so common in our region, one would have thought it should be given the tall average height. But that's how it is.
Sakz said on 19/Sep/20
@Poster I understood your point. That's where nutrition can play a role, which is usually the difference between rich and poor countries. Of course there are exceptions too. There is sometimes confusion as some people draw up the conclusion that they could have exceeded genetic potential had they eaten better, slept more or even exercised. Of course that is false and if anything, those factors don't even come into it a lot of the time. That's where it can be tricky to nail down but all in all height is mainly genetic.
Slim 6'1" said on 19/Sep/20
Canson, I’m glad to be back I love this website. Rob is a beautiful man!
Slim 6'1" said on 19/Sep/20
The dairy like heaps of milk has something to do with it

Solid 6’ to be tall in Australia, strong 5’11” is just the top of average
183-184.5cm to be tall
Slim 6'1" said on 19/Sep/20
Young white aussies are ending up 178-181cm
Slim 6'1" said on 19/Sep/20
Short: 172cm and under
Average: 173-182cm
Tall: 183cm & over
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 19/Sep/20
@Greg

I don't care anything about you. Only don't try to lie to the people about my height.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 19/Sep/20
@Greg

I was friendly with you these days. You are angry because i said the truth. In your unconscious you know you aren't 5'10.5".
I wouldn't be surprised if you aren't even a solid 178.4 cm.
That guy Dojomaster only makes fun of you, he knows you didn't recover height.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 19/Sep/20
@Greg

You feel bad with your appearance and you are sick because you often take photos to yourself with very low angles and you measure to yourself all days. You are unhappy with your appearance
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 19/Sep/20
@Greg

I think i am not short and that is the important.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 19/Sep/20
@Greg

You don't do the maths in the correct way. I am 171.8 cm in my lowest, i don't understand why you still saying i am 5'7.5" or a solid 171.2 cm. I never said that.
You still trying think i am shorter than 5'7.75"
You are a solid 178.4 cm, so you are 2 5/8 inch taller than me.
Greg said on 19/Sep/20
I witnessed some serious height fraud the other day. This guy who couldn’t have been much taller than myself claimed to be 6’3.. I was like this guy has to be joking, I figured maybe he would claim 6’0 since he’s around 5’11 I would say thats a generous estimate because we where at eye level but there’s a chance he edges me slightly. But even his brother who’s several inches taller than him claims 6’3 ( but he’s more 6’2 and change) but I can see in his brothers case he’s claiming a morning height or in shoe. With his brother though I am looking right above his mouth so there’s almost a solid 3 and change inches between us. However the inflator guy maybe touches 6’0 with shoes. I remember the few times I saw him he looked close to myself and even gave me a similar impression that my one 5’11 friend does although he has a slim build and this guy has a bit of a heavy frame. I was like thinking to myself that’s crazy how he’s lying by a whole 4 inches there’s no way he could have even been measured anywhere close to that. 1-2 inch error okay but more than that?
khaled taban 175.3cm said on 18/Sep/20
Greg, you are basically 179 cm or 5'10.5" guy , not 5'11". People judge a specific one height based on the evening height , not the morning height.
Also , at 5'10.5" you are not pretty tall , even if some people have referred you as being tall. 5'10.5" is merely tallish , or It's better to say above average height, but above average and "tall" are two different things.
Also , I've seen your comments earlier and you have claimed 5'10" being tallish , I'm telling you that 5'10" is not tallish whatsoever , especially if we are talking about the young generation (average 5'9.5").
5'10" isnt that good height , I would classify it as barely good or okay , It's the same situation as if you get a +C mark in an exam.
However , 5'10" is good enough to pass as person who hasn't genetics deficiency , Because in my opinion if I saw a sub 5'10" guy walking in the streets , I would assume he is genetically poor or has genes deficency.
I'd sum it up , while being 5'10" isn't very good , being below 5'10" is obviously an eternal hellfire.
Zober said on 18/Sep/20
@greg and how am i insecure? You are taking glucosamine and stretching to make yourself taller even though you know you will gain a few mm tops. You are desperately trying to make 5'10" an above average height even though all data points that it is not. And 5'9 american average is all ethnicities combine compared to white race you are average height.
Pepe a said on 18/Sep/20
Is it healthy and normal not to grow from 12/13 years? I stayed at 1.67. I have a brother of 1.82. Parents of 1.77 and 1.57. Sorry for my English I'm using google translator.
I am a man and I am 22 years old
Nik Ashton said on 17/Sep/20
@ Greg - Good reasoning!
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 17/Sep/20
@Greg

I'm not trying to offend you
Dojomaster said on 17/Sep/20
Greg is proof that glucosamine and stretches can increase height.

My brother used to wake up below 5'11" (he used to claim slightly below 5'11" as his morning height), but now he claims 5'11.12" as his morning height. That is a SIGNIFICANT increase and proof that Greg is on the right track to 6 feet tall.

Greg is now a legit 5'11.25" in the morning and 5'10.5" at night, while he used to be 5'10.9" in the morning and 5'10" at night. Congrats to my brother.

Though I see Greg is still a bit crude in his comments, which turns people away and makes him harder to believe. Rob, can you please tell Greg to stop using racist terms like "china men"?
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 17/Sep/20
@Greg

Your friends think you are the same height with your 5'9 friend because you have bad proportions.
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 17/Sep/20
@Greg

You look at very most 5'9.75"-5'10 in those two unique photos where you don't do tricks with the very low angle of the camera.
You pass like a 5'10 guy but you know, people add 1 inch, 1.5 inch to their height, so they think you are 5'11.
181guy said on 17/Sep/20
@Greg I used a height percentile calculator for the US and i found this. 179/5'10.5" = 64.3 percentile. 179.7/5'10.75= 67.7 percentile. 180.2cm/5'11 is precisely 70th percentile. There is an Average range, a Kinda tall range and a Tall range. 5'9/175.3 is the average male height in the US but not every 5'9 guy will be 175.3 exactly, some might be 176...or some may be closer to 5'10 etc... So the typical 5'10 guy might not even be a full inch taller at times. Not above average ..by much is what I think. I reliaze you are a very strong 5'10 too. You are closer to 5'11 than you are to a flat 5'10. I feel above average at 181cm and I'm noticeably taller than 5'9 people.
James Brett 172cm said on 17/Sep/20
nearly every guy i have encountered who claimed "6ft6" were probably no taller than a flat 6ft4.

even very tall men inflate there height
Greg said on 17/Sep/20
@Van Halen what is with you guys and strawman arguments, I have no idea who you are. How can I have something against you? I’m plenty enough to be considered 5’10.5” on celeb heights. In fact I’m I’m 3.25 inches taller than you if you’re 5’7.5, just accept your short height and move on with this Rubbish. No need to keep instigating. I was that height and 15 and it wasn’t that bad relax little Jimmy.
Zober said on 17/Sep/20
@greg
Greg said on 15/Sep/20
@Van Halen My guesses for Croatia average 180-181cm
Bosnia 181-182cm
Germany 178-179cm

So how can you feel above average in germany if that is exactly how tall you are. If you are a cm taller then the average height of a country and feel above average is hard to believe. Sorry te break it to you but that is BS and you know it. If you were to feel above average in germany the average would be 175 or 176 cm. You are contradicting yourself. You sound delusional and you wonder why you get into clashes with other posters. So you claiming that 179 cm is above average and tallish is fine but me saying that i OCASIONALLY get looks and stupid comments is trolling? I never said that people act like im big foot or something. So a 191 cm guy cant get looked at and get dumb comments about his height but you can get called tallish and above average? Again with the lies? I never said 6'2"-6'3" guys consider guys like you short but you might look a little short if you were surrounded by them. I might have made a few straw man arguments but you lie way to much. The truth is you are insecure about your height and try to make country averages lower and you claiming morning height proves it even more. You act like you are tolerant but you get pissed of and angry when someone doesnt agree with you or your claims and write infantile comments (lil jimmy) and everyone who doesnt agree with you or has an opinion is stupid and uneducated and makes straw man arguments.
Mark O' Connor said on 17/Sep/20
Greg said on 15/Sep/20 I am around that height and it's not rare to get stares, Is not so common but it happens. It's still 6 inches above average. (Again I am not reporting my height for flexing, but just to give my experience)
Minister said on 17/Sep/20
Someone mentioned Serbia, so to say my impressions
In Serbia there is slight variation between regions, west probably being the tallest, also Belgrade as a capitol, where a lot of people have origin from present day Montenegro, Hercegovina and other DinaricAlps regions, north being the shortest due multicultural structure of the region, but overall I would say that most people fall between 178cm and 193cm, there is approx 17%,18% of people above 190cm, and above 190cm is def. more common then under 175cm. Single most common height for men is probably around 185cm in my opnion. People above 2m are not rare, but not super common either. For women take away 10 to 15cm.
I am 188cm and I feel kind of in upper average zone.
Slim 6'1" said on 17/Sep/20
Scandinavian young guys would be 6’ on average imho
Slim 6'1" said on 17/Sep/20
Greg, 18-21 year old Germans would easily be 180-182cm commonly
Van Halen 172.1 cm said on 16/Sep/20
@SD172

No way you are 171 cm if they think you are around 5'5, that's a classic short height.
All the people think i am 5'9, even taller.
Nik said on 16/Sep/20
I hope that I live long enough to shrink by a foot.
Nik Ashton said on 16/Sep/20
All heights (all genders) = cool
All genders = cool
All sexual orientations = cool
All races = cool
All skin colours = cool
All religions = cool

There are many others I haven’t listed.

Basically everything is cool unless harm is done to a person, animal, the environment, anything.
C Brady said on 16/Sep/20
Lets remember that Greg has a shorter torso and very long legs so he probably doesn't have as much 'play' in his spine as other guys. The ab exercises really help you to build strength and stand tall i have noticed.

@daad I am very concerned about you dropping to 6-0.25 range now. I really hope you can regain that height!
Greg said on 15/Sep/20
@Van Halen My guesses for Croatia average 180-181cm
Bosnia 181-182cm
Germany 178-179cm
cmillz said on 15/Sep/20
Was in Wisconsin last week and the average felt 5’10 there. Funny though, because in places like New York (particularly NYC) or Florida, the average feels more 5’8 range.
Canson said on 15/Sep/20
Greg said on 14/Sep/20
@Canson You see that? And again he tries to make us the bad guys. Wow it’s almost as if he is pretending to be that ignorant. There’s no way that he actually is like that, he always thinks it’s okay to tell people to round up or claim something. But in this case we don’t even tell him what to claim. Just merely pointing out his logical fallacies and he can’t take the truth.

Agreed!
Slim 6'1" said on 15/Sep/20
Christian, help me find odd jobs to do nearby, I really need help
Slim 6'1" said on 15/Sep/20
Christian, ur fine u can’t be messed with under fbi witness protection,
Poster said on 15/Sep/20
@Sakz: That's true in most cases. There are times when the parents didn't reach their full heights (potentially) due to their environments. In turn, their daughters or sons may also be short due to environment. That's what I meant in my other comment.
Jv said on 15/Sep/20
Hi
On your site, are the height listings what these celebrities are at their absolute lowest ? Or their ‘average mid day height’?
Thanks!
Editor Rob
Not quite at lowest, think more lunch
Hyper said on 15/Sep/20
@Christian

That is true too.
Greg said on 15/Sep/20
@Zober Yes I claim morning height, what's wrong with that? You just questioned my claim and contradicted yourself in your post I used to wake up at 180.3cm or 5'11 but now I wake up a bit over 5'11 like right in between 5'11 and 5'11.25 depending on how much sleep I get. I corrected my back tilt and am working on my posture according to my doctor. So far it's working I claim 5'11 in real life and almost 5'11 or 5'10.5-5'10.75" on celeb heights. I don't care what you or anyone says about it nothing wrong with me claiming 5'10.75" It's still in the 5'10 range 1 and 2 I can measure it early morning and in the noons I would be 5'10 5/8ths which is only 1/4 inch below my claim and nobody is going to call me out for it, in fact most guys guess me to be 5'11-6'0 as I look taller than I am. I am going to essentially be close to 6'0 in shoes as well so it doesn't make a difference. I am not 5'10.25" at my low I used to be before I started correcting my posture now I barely drop below 5'10.5" maybe like 5'10.42" at a low maybe 5'10 3/8ths at an extreme low haven't measured in a while.
Greg said on 15/Sep/20
@181guy I am almost 5'11 so plug in 5'10.5 or 5'10.75" in a calculator for percentiles U.S and you get 70th percentile. In what world is that average? I am never referred to as an "average" guy I am almost always referred to as pretty tall or tallish. just because you feel barely average and are insecure doesn't mean I automatically am.
Greg said on 15/Sep/20
@Myself He is heavy duty trolling, in no way is a 6'3 guy going to get looks unless he is in a short village of China men and women or something. To get looks on the street for your height I would say you'd have to be a minimum of 6'6 in U.S and probably like 6'7-6'8+ in Europe, that's not to say heights shorter aren't pretty tall but nobody is going to be batting an eye. He also says that guys who are 5'10.5-5'11 will be looked at as "short" by 6'2-6'3 guys which is a joke, because it's not much of a difference only a few inches. And I've never been called short in my life even by taller guys, quite frank actually had the opposite happen.
Greg said on 15/Sep/20
@DojoMaster my goal is to become 6’6 and then walk around claiming 5’0, how does that sound?
Mark O' Connor said on 15/Sep/20
@Rob Is possibile that when we measure like compared to a doorframe (without our back out on the wall) we measure slightly shorter?
Editor Rob
Doorframes are ok, but I think measuring facing a wall is much easier and less likely to give as big an error trying to measure yourself with back against a doorframe or wall.
Nik Ashton said on 15/Sep/20
Three men walked past me in quick succession in Pontefract market hall and they were all quite a few inches shorter than my good 5’7.25” self however when we were in one of the shops we did encounter a member of staff from one of the other shops, he’s about 6’0” - 6’1” range!
Zober said on 15/Sep/20
@myself

mrfunnyguy said on 24/Jun/20
@Greg Dude, you should spend some time in Sweden. Live here for a couple of years and try getting some friends, even though I know it's not easy to do that in Sweden. You probably went to some small little town far away from the capital, and probably ignored everyone taller than you.
I know I have been thinking that I might have a skewed perception of height, so I've counted the amount of men taller than me and shorter than me on the street several times. Almost every time I turn out to be third or fourth tallest out of ten, and I do count immigrants who are shorter than swedes on average too.
I don't really want to upload a full video of myself here on celebheights, so I guess I can't really prove to you that I'm 6'1 if your highness doesn't want to check the photos that I uploaded back in March.
_____________________

This is the comment i was refering to. You calling me "confused" (you obviously meant something more insulting since you put the quotation marks) was uncalled for given that you didnt even understand my comment. A lot of people here seem to be defending greg even though it is obvious that he makes country averages lower so he can be above averages.
Van Halen said on 15/Sep/20
I am 172.1 cm 5-6 hours out of bed without going to the bed and Rob 173.3 cm i think
Van Halen said on 15/Sep/20
@Greg If you are a solid 178.7 cm, then you still being 2 5/8 of inch taller than me. You aren't a full 5'10.5" for Celebheights standars. You want to think i am shorter than 5'7.75" because you have something against me.
Van Halen said on 15/Sep/20
If you are a solid 178.7 cm, then you still being 2 5/8 of inch taller than me. You aren't a full 5'10.5" for Celebheights standars. You want to think i am shorter than 5'7.75" because you have something against me.
c-mo 176.2cm said on 15/Sep/20
@Greg . wow you are one annoying brat ....

I am 177cm 2 hours out of bed . not 176.5cm . this is such a weird accusement and a weird way to discredit me . if I was 176.5cm 2 hours out of bed I would say it ..but I am not lol . I am 177cm 2 hours out of bed

have you understood it now ? I will repeat it one last time for you : 2 hours being awake I am 177cm !
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Sep/20
@Hyper/Dream
Sorry, but that's an absurd reason. Unless there's a risk of being sued over a Celebheights username (which is extremely unlikely), you don't have anything to worry about. That's like me saying that I can't use the name "Christian" on here since Christian Bale is a famous actor who shares my first name.
Dojomaster said on 14/Sep/20
@Van Halen

Glucosamine and stretches will definitely help Greg recover height. He has a severe tilt and I would not be surprised if he recovered up to 2.5". Read the literature on anterior pelvic tilt.

@Zober

c-mo definitely is less infantile than Greg but Greg is right about most of what he says. But c-mo is way better to read because Greg is a mean mean person though I will always defend my brother.
Van Halen said on 14/Sep/20
@Zobber

The average height in Croatia is 180 cm, but in Germany 179 cm.
181guy said on 14/Sep/20
@Greg Go to the link Rob posted. The link contains an image and in that image it says younger guys are 5'9.75 in the UK.
You keep saying 'likely'..... this means you making an assumption. Simply put, you don't know. I look at measured data and stats, don't assume things. Don't use "likely" or "probably". If only you accepted that 5'10 is average range, therefore it would end the clashes with other posters. Plus it makes general look bad. Most people will call 5'10 and yourself average range.
Nik Ashton said on 14/Sep/20
@ SD172 - Just don’t bother, you know the real truth and in any case few people will bother about your height and if they do stuff them, associate with the vast majority who don’t treat you unfavourably. You are at least average in your country but even if you weren’t it wouldn’t make you a better or worse person. I’m surprised people don’t think you are 5’10” or 5’11” to be honest, people are usually out of touch that way!
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 14/Sep/20
@ Olympian - Hi Bobby! Good comedy value is when one remark can produce plenty more in one's own head.

Having thought on those lines myself, for someone to actually come out with it really got my imagination going. That was excellent!

🥂🍰🎈🤭😂
181guy said on 14/Sep/20
@Rob I was thinking it was 175-176 for younger guys. I said 176cm first, give or take. I wouldn't have thought younger adults were closer to 5'10...But they're sample ranges also.
Editor Rob
The samples are a few hundred...not thousands, which might narrow the variation down a bit.
Nik Ashton said on 14/Sep/20
5’9” is solid average in the UK however it may be slightly under average for young guys, but no one else!
Zober said on 14/Sep/20
@greg and one more thing how can your height be 5'10 3/4" be your height if you are 5'11" first thing? You wake up at 180.3 and you claim 179.7? You are claiming morning height... Not saying you cant but come on 5'10.25" is your real height if you wake up at 5'11". You can claim what you want but you are ignoring the standards of the site.
Van Halen said on 14/Sep/20
@Greg

Rob said there is a possibility glucosamine adds height to your out of bed (a possibility, Rob isn't a scientific).
Editor Rob
You can read the full Paper here.

Without testing morning height it's unclear if the overall height shrinkage has been reduced or if the morning height and evening increases a couple of mm on average.

would be interesting to see any visitors testing it for a month, I remember a couple mentioning it in the past on here.
Zober said on 14/Sep/20
@greg being the third or fourth tallest out of ten thing i wrote was what funnyguy said back in june by which he admited he is above average and if the average is 180 than that is how a 6'1" guy should feel if you dont believe me scroll to the comment. That should have been obvious. I dont consider you short at all if that is what you think. Ok man you have the right to write your opinions. Move to germany or scandinavia or other parts of central europe and try living here for a few years only then you would see that what i am saying to you is true. And if the average in sweden is what you say it is how can you feel above average of you are only 1 cm taller than that (that barely makes a difference)? There is an average range you know...
Greg said on 14/Sep/20
@Canson You see that? And again he tries to make us the bad guys. Wow it’s almost as if he is pretending to be that ignorant. There’s no way that he actually is like that, he always thinks it’s okay to tell people to round up or claim something. But in this case we don’t even tell him what to claim. Just merely pointing out his logical fallacies and he can’t take the truth.
Greg said on 14/Sep/20
@Ajax509 Yes I will be and I can make a measurement video, let C-Mo do the same and you will see I am right. He’s not going to be 177cm two hours out of bed he’s already dropping to 176.5ish if not lower I guarantee.
Greg said on 14/Sep/20
@Van Halen It does, depends on how bad your posture is and if you have a pelvic/back tilt or not. Like myself. In my case my Chiropractor said that my posture was bad and that I am not standing at my tallest. It also explains why my back hurts, because I have a weak core that’s what they said. So Glucosamine alone helps you retain some height, as for stretching exercises they can help you gain if you keep up with them by fixing your posture. But it would be as little 1.5-2cm not many would gain even as much as an inch. I’m almost 5’11, so 5’10.5-5’10.75” if you are 5’7 and change I am about 3 inch range taller than you.
Greg said on 14/Sep/20
@Poster He also has a lot of fragment errors and other incorrect tenses. Which is fair, whatever but he starts trying to sound all superior without having attempted to proof read what he wrote. And attempts to say that his English is better than any second language I speak. It’s his superiority complex kicking in. He’s going to get shut down by the Golden stadiometer sooner or later.
Greg said on 14/Sep/20
@Zober How does me not agreeing with the average that you specify make me not a “reasonable” guy. I can say the same thing to you. Just because you discredit my opinion doesn’t mean you have the right to bash me, your opinion isn’t anymore valid than mine. Like I said you need to get a grip on yourself if you don’t feel tall at 6’3 I got news for you. You’re not really 6’3 then. Ask any poster here who’s actually over 6’0, doesn’t matter where you are. I feel comfortably above average in most places, I don’t have to feel like a towering giant to be tall. Because like the other guy said in Germany the average is like a decent 5’10 range, not 5’11, Croatia, Serbia and Balkans average higher than Germany I hope you know that. And stop making up strawman arguments where on earth are you getting 5’8 for the average? Okay we are making up averages now, American average is 6’4 for men. In Europe it’s 6’2 but you gotta be at least 6’7 to feel tall. 👍
Myself said on 14/Sep/20
@Greg
Yeah, i don't know how Zober could be getting "looks" if he says that he's like only the 3rd or 4th tallest out of 10 men. Apart from it being totally contradictory, it's absurd, as that would put him at about 75 percentile, meaning that if he's 6'3 then the average for men in his area must be 6'1. Hmmmm, yeah, i think he's a little "confused", probably not as much as mrfunnyguy but still.
Sakz said on 14/Sep/20
@Poster All in all, that's what it comes down to. If both parents are short, then obviously their children will be too no matter how good their nutrition is. You can't exceed genetic potential, but you can maximise it.
Honest5'11" said on 14/Sep/20
Average I Germany is probably 179-180 cm range midday and 178-179 cm night. Add 2-3 cm for Holland. If people think it's higher then it's probably because they add a few cm to their height :) So 182-183 cm would be just above average in these countries.
Zober said on 14/Sep/20
@c-mo you seem like a very reasonable poster unlike this greg guy, the average for croatia is 180 cm which he agrees with for some reason but he doesnt agree with 180 cm german average which are both measured and proven. He is funny. Even i dont feel really tall and i cant imagine shrinking 12 cm to his height and start screaming on a forum that i am above average in these countries. I am pretty sure if he came to visit the balkans he will start saying that he is above average here to and that the average is 5'8".
Poster said on 13/Sep/20
@Sakz: I think that both nature and nurture play roles in determining height. For instance, I think that the shorter girls, in my town, just have shorter parents. It's pretty basic in that way. Of course, it could be that their parents were more products of their environments, so it's hard to make a definitive statement.

@Zober: You write quite well. In fact, you write better than many American and British people. Not to sound like "that person", but you confuse "than" with "then", which is sadly common among native speakers, so it's definitely forgivable in your case. "I showed that I was taller THAN Amy, and I THEN measured her."
Hyper said on 13/Sep/20
@Rob

I might just change my name to Hyper from Dream. Dream is starting to become a big YouTuber and I rather not take his name.

Sorry for the late decision, rob!
Editor Rob
That's ok. Just don't change it too much or it might trigger the algorithm.
Van Halen said on 13/Sep/20
@Greg

Glucosamine and stretch excersises don't recover height. I reed recently in a medical site this... slight scoliosis doesn't recover height. (Search if you don't believe me). You need to be clearly a type of hunchback.

Greg you know!, i claim 5'7.75" 5 hours out of bed, but you said you are 3 inches taller than me... lol, at most 2 5/8 inches taller than me.
I sometimes claimed a solid 5'7 5/8 because the private group chat had members where they always claimed their lowest height.

Solid* means lowest height i think.
AndrewV said on 13/Sep/20
We have to remember that the 5'9" average in places like the US and UK is the average among men of all age groups and backgrounds. If we're narrowing it town to young people, the average is closer to 5'9.5" and a solid 5'10" for white and black men specifically.
Greg said on 13/Sep/20
@Zober And if I where to make you a super hero it would be called " CelebHeights Delusion King of Logical Phallacies" I am very well aware of my estimates and just because we don't look eye to eye on things doesn't give you the right to bash me and my opinions. And wonder why I shut you down. You're calling me a liar yet you have no idea who I am you're being extremely bias in your information in order to try and take away crediability in mine. How are you going to try and tell me how I feel in my Country. And why am I all of a sudden not allowed to give an opinion in other countries? But I still will nice try Pal. Glenns said hi to you little jimmy.
Greg said on 13/Sep/20
@181Guy "The Truth Hurts" what truth? and what hurts? Rob said it's near 5'10 so that's likely 5'9.5 and if I am being more accurate the average for American men is probably 5'9.25 for young guys and 5'8.5-5'9 for males all groups. 5'10 is not really within the average, within the average is anything close to 5'10, 5'10 is 60th percentile in America so above average. Same way you wouldn't say 5'11 is within average even though some people try to throw it out truth is 5'10.5-5'10.75 is 70th percentile and 5'11 is 73rd percentile in U.S not sure about U.K since I don't live there.
Greg said on 13/Sep/20
@Zober "I am the biggest troll and Liar on this forum" Lol what exactly have I lied and how am I a troll here? Go on, tell me one thing I lied about poor little Jimmy is struggling and can't name anything. So there's something wrong with that or yourself assuming you're a legit 6'3 you should be the tallest out of 10. Even in Sweden maybe occasionaly you'll meet guys that are taller than you but it's super rare 6'3 is still 99.9% go check a height percentile chart if you don't believe me. You sound like a lunatic right now. As for Mrfunnyguy he's a troll and I don't believe a single thing that comes out of his mouth, he never admitted he was above average. He always said he was "barely average" and said he doesn't feel tall. How can you believe someone who claims to be about 6'1 but feels shorter than most people. If anything your views are skewed especially about height and you're projecting heavy. "are you smoking pot?" That's an odd conclusion to draw, no I'll have you know I can pass any drug test and I am a Intern at a Police Department; so if I was smoking pot would I have gotten in? Now you on the other hand I am not so sure about ;). That Research isn't reliable sure you could use it for reference; but since neither you or I where present during the time it was conducted you can't 100% rely on it. The average in Sweden is approximately 179cm for men I never said it was 177cm unless you include all generations then maybe. However, for young guys it's 178-179cm and I have many people from Sweden who agree with me. You literally just said " I get looks from people" so obviously that's suppopsed to be a subtle indicator that you think you're some sort of giant or freak of nature. Nobody is looking at 6'3 guys differently, especially since you're trying to say the average is higher there so wouldn't that make them less likely to look at you? I think you have some serious issues and are contradicting yourself in everything that you say lol.

And again you are with the strawman arguements, I think you need to get a formal education first. Before you attempt to try and insult be because everyone here can tell you are not properly educated and your rhetoric is even a far worse indicator than that. You try to say that I learned english by "hearing Americans talk". Uh, no I learned it in school by practicing and learning how to read and write. The same way you did, you're just jealous and projecting because your english isn't as good as mine (Not that it matters) But since you're trying to bring me below you on some imaginary totem pole I will call that out. Secondly, I learned Russian by the same way at home with my family but practicing reading and writing. How else do you learn foreign languages? Do you think a magical fairy goes into your ear while you sleep at night and whispers secrets that make you learn? Don't kid yourself, because you sound really ignorant right about now.
Now that we got that out of the way, where did you formulate that the average in Russia for men was 5'10? That's funny, the average even in America where most guys will be a little taller than Russian people is 5'9, so how could it be 5'10 over there? Go on find me a legitmate source that's not you looking up some nonsense that Russians average 5'10, and even if they did I would still be above average then. However Russian Men average 5'8-5'9 so it's safe to say that I am comfortably above average there ;). Okay now you are making stuff up to try and make your 'points' work. First of all when did I say that Croatians average 5'8? I think you must be getting me confused with someone else. I've said plenty of times that Croatians average about 5'11 more or less. The Balkans have an average higher than Swedens. But for the record I have met plenty of people from Bosnia that I was taller than, now do I tower everyone there?no. Do I tower everyone everywhere?No and I don't want to, I think if your goal is to be some sort of 7'0 freak that towers everyone you have issues. Sounds like you have a personal complex as well. Work on it. People don't just 'measure' in shoes only in "America". Stop trying to put 'Americans' down with your superiority complex especially when you're poorly educated and ignorant it's not going to back up your points of reference. Nice try though. I am sure all around the world people can measure/claim an in shoe height. Is it part of your body? No, does that make people all of a sudden from claiming it? no.. How is 5'10/5'11 average height? Average where in 2 out of 50 cities in Europe or something? 5'10 and 5'11 is above average in more countries than it is average or below, and I am telling you straight up of what you're trying to say I am above average and a tallish guy which in my case is 5'10.5+ in the afternoon in America I will be using that as my reference point; but I have included many other places. So stop trying to strawman argue this it will not work. I am 179.7cm or almost 5'11 and I have never looked short next to anyone who's 6'2-6'3. Like I said I am usually referred to as a tall guy even though I don't consider myself a tall guy. Usually people will say " oh he's kind of tall or something" And most of those people are like my height and taller not just shorter. So nice try, a 5'10/5'11 will never look short unless they are taking a photo in which they had bad posture and are over weight. I am fairly lean and muscular for my height and have good proportions, I am workin on posture.
Blanc said on 13/Sep/20
@Greg I'm 168 cm range (max 170 cm) and my true inseam is 32.25 inches although I wear a 30 and wingspan is about 5'11" give or take, perfect to be an MMA fighter lol. LL is a risk I'm willing to undertake and just be done with it so I don't think much about my height anymore and feel so weird, and the pain is temporary and it's a much better experience considering the latest tech - which is weight bearing and you can literally walk during the procedure.

Interestingly enough, wearing lifts to 171-1.5 cm I felt completely normal and not short in the slightest which just 3 cm, so an 8 cm gain + some stretching, glucosamine sulphate + potential natural growth of few mm since I'm 17 + core strengthening + posture improvement and following the Alexandra technique would put me at about 5'10" which is a height I would be very happy with - although I think my posture is already good, I don't wanna be 5'9" though, but 10 cm would be really pushing it for my torso so I should stick with 8 which looks perfectly fine visually.

The problem is my sitting height, I sit lower than most guys of average height and sometimes my own height and mostly on level with women who are about 5'3" so that's something I have to live with. Mine is 86 cm and a 5'10 guy's is on average apparently 92 cm but I have met exceptions where an average sized guy sat similar or even LOWER than me so hopefully it isn't a big issue.
grizz said on 13/Sep/20
@John124, an interesting assessment technique, but agree with you on the results.
ajax509 said on 13/Sep/20
@Greg You won't be 1.25in taller than c-mo after 2h. I don't know how often he should repeat himself, he is exactly 177cm at that stage.
c-mo176.2cm said on 13/Sep/20
@Greg

2 hours out of bed I am 5'9.7 ...not 5'9.5

and at night I am 5'9.3


@Zober he doesnt accept any data or any other values other than the made up averages in his head making him think he is "above average"

I live in germany since 30 years and told him he will not be above average here among young ethnic german men but he doesnt understand
Greg said on 12/Sep/20
@Blanc Also I would extremely advise against limb lengthening because of the pain and suffering. I think you should just stretch maybe try to take Glucosamine and use an inversion table. You might not gain a whole not depending on your posture but maybe a little bit.
Alex87 said on 12/Sep/20
Hey Rob! Just wanted to ask when is the perfect time to measure? The height that you want to claim it. Let's say when you have a normal routine, waking up, walking a bit,shopping, PC, etc. 5 hours after you wake up is accurate to claim your height? Or yo need to wait more until night time? Thank you!
Editor Rob
5 hours always seems a fair mark to go with and whether you go with a fraction or round to nearest figure, it's really up to yourself.
Olympian said on 12/Sep/20
@Sandy Cowell

I am prone to producing humour even when I am writing a sincere comment. Either that is a component of my wit or my tendency to make dry comments. I guess everybody has their moments, so I have mine too. I'm glad my comment was able to lighten your day up after so much gloom and doom the past year.
SD172 said on 12/Sep/20
Hi guys, quick question,I'm very insecure of my height I'm 172cm/171cm(5'8/5'7.5).I live in Kenya, where I'm statistically average height but every time someone says I'm 5'6 or 5'5 something I bellow out to correct them. How do I overcome this? Occasionally I met tall attractive women and I can't help but feel uncertain especially when they point it out(MY height).
Second, I sometimes find it to be a bit strange that we can argue over a centimeter/half an inch that can be changed by posture/hairstyle and footwear.
Sakz said on 12/Sep/20
@Poster Absolutely. It's quite fascinating how height has evolved throughout history. While the average hasn't changed much in my country, I do find it interesting to observe in other countries to identify disparities. Inadequate nutrition for poorer countries plays a role, as they don't reach their genetic potential.
Canson said on 12/Sep/20
Greg said on 10/Sep/20

@Canson who Willes? He’s a weak 6’2 at best.

Nah he’s at least a strong 6’2”. He mentioned before that his extreme low was 188.5-189 range. If that’s true (???) then he’s prob a decent 189.
Greg said on 12/Sep/20
@Rob you guys got put on Lockdown again? That sucks hopefully the same doesn’t happen around here. I think they need to accept cases will still happen and just have people practice safety regulations, it’s pointless to lock places down only to have the same thing happen again.
Editor Rob
Yeah, it's more not allowing people to come into households for visits as a lot of spread is house transmission.
Greg said on 12/Sep/20
@Blanc Yeah I mean I wear a 34/34 I think my actual inseam is like 32 so I can fit in a 32/34 too. I think that inseam is average for 6 footers if I’m not mistaken. How tall are you again?
Greg said on 12/Sep/20
@Blanc For that I would need someone else to do it or I guess I could try, I mean I know my legs are like 42 inches and my wing span is 6’2. I have long proportions for an almost 5’11 guy. You know what’s interesting there’s a website with people who submitted photos of them with their height and weight. It’s called like height/weight chart.com But it seems most guys over there where exaggerating their height a bit. The women seemed honest though lol,
Zober said on 12/Sep/20
@greg you are the biggest liar an troll on this forum. Funnyguy litteraly admitted later that he is actually above average height in sweden back in june.

I know I have been thinking that I might have a skewed perception of height, so I've counted the amount of men taller than me and shorter than me on the street several times. Almost every time I turn out to be third or fourth tallest out of ten...

You only remember stuff which helps your ridiculous claims...
177 cm average in sweden and germany...
Are you smoking pot? Wake up man you are not above average there at all and stop trolling. Military research and university papers state that the average is 180 cm. So you believe that you are smarter than the swedish military? You are not. You are not making educated guesses, you are making up nonsense so you can feel above average in your made up world. I didnt say im a giant at 6'3" but i do get weird looks sometimes and stupid comments...

You learned english from listening to americans talk and day to day life. You grew up in america so what you wrote doesnt help you much. I learned english from a textbook so offcourse my english will look terrible TO YOU! Compared to other people who learned the english the way i did my english is better then average. If you really think my english is mediocre at best than 90 percent of the croatian population are uneducated morons. So your learned russian from hearing your parents talk as a baby? You really are a handfull.. I meant that the language you learned in school sucks compared to my english. If you learned spanish or something i bet 100k dollars that your spanish is worse than my english. Stop playing dumb you know exactly what i am trying to say so stop being like that.
Dude the russian average is literally 5'10" so you are within the average range but coming from you this nonsense doesnt surprise me. The measured average for russians is 5'10", you probably think that they got measured in shoes or something but believe me outside off america it is practically unheard off to measure your height in shoes. Because it is common sense that shoes are not a part of you body. I mentioned to some people that you can measure your height in shoes and they looked at me like i am crazy. You should visit croatia soon. I cant wait to hear your balkan adventures and how you towered over the average 5'8" croatian man.

So many people like yourself have a misconception about height and probably don’t know how tall anyone is if you think 5’10-5’11 is pretty short. Let me Guess 6’2 is just barely tall to you? But 6’3 is tall goes to show how you use your own height and false beliefs to try and reinforce arbitrary opinions..

5'10"-5'11" is an average height guy. You are the biggest liar i have ever met. I didnt say anything which you accuse me off. A 6'2" guy is solid tall. A 178 cm man looks short next 188-190 cm guys.

And stop calling me uneducated. You dont know who i am so you cant know if i am educated or not. You are calling me uneducated because my english (which i barrly use) sounds bad to a native english speaker? This proves that everything you say about me is basically who you are.

If you were a superhero your name would be "The Above Average Man" with the superpower to know the average height in every country and having the ability to be "tallish". Jokes aside you cant prove anything you say which means you are a liar and a troll. You coming to a country a spending several days there cant give the actual perception how tall people are there. So you walk around and all of a sudden you know the average height of the whole country? You dont. It is very hard ti guess someones height to the cm. Yiu could be off as much as 2 cm.
Van Halen said on 12/Sep/20
I don't know how my sister had a 5'4.5" measurement in the clinic at 11 am when she woke up at 7 am I need to buy a stadiometer, maybe i am a full 5'8" at worst. In my country we don't use bust a gut measurement.
Van Halen said on 12/Sep/20
Me 172.1 cm, exactly 5'7.75"
Brother 187.9 cm, just 1 mm under 6'2"
Sister 162.6 cm, exactly 5'4 (last time i checked)
Mother 5'3" peak
Father 5'9.25" peak
____________________

With those parents' heights i should be a weak 5'9, but a weak 5'8 is an average height for a son with those parent's height
c-mo 176.2cm said on 11/Sep/20
@Canson

after 5 hours being awake I am 176.2 - 176.4 depending on activity (176.2 on normal days and 176.4 on very relaxed days where I am mostly sitting around etc.) . but lets say 176.2

anyway I think we talked enough about me . I would like this to end now . as usual greg and you try to force their opinions on others and act as if your "way" is the true way . I dont want to be a part of this silly discussion anymore . claim whatever you want and I claim what I want
Slim 6'1" said on 11/Sep/20
Average height in dinaric alps is 186cm 6’1.25-5”
So yeah I’m above average worldwide 👍
Slim 6'1" said on 11/Sep/20
Willes and I are 2.0cm apart,
181guy said on 11/Sep/20
@Greg Rob and some other people say it's closer to 5'10 for younger adults aged 18-30 UK/US. 178cm or 5'10 isn't 'above average' in Europe, UK or the states. The truth hurts. 5'10 is still within the average 'range'. Also in my last comment I was speaking specifically for younger people not the overall average. That's why I said 177cm maybe for 'younger people' in particular. The overall average height in the UK/US is 5'9/176.
Editor Rob
You can see the stats Here. That is the study health workers do around households, so they visit homes and part of the big health survey is height/weight measurements around the UK.
Close to 5ft 10 for younger guys, it dropped a bit back down in 2017 but these sample ranges are hundreds rather than thousands, so I'd still go with close to 5ft 10 20-30 and 5ft 9 average in UK.
Greg said on 11/Sep/20
@181guy Yeah there’s a few ways to get guessed taller, Rob mentions hair styles, certain clothing I think clothing with stripes and stuff. There’s a couple of them I forget lol. But yeah a lean build with good proportions is good for getting guessed taller in addition to most people automatically guessing you 1-2 inches taller if they aren’t height aware. And I know I didn’t think you said 5’10 was a bad height, surely being above average in most places isn’t bad. And yeah it’s more annoying when people inflate you to make their inflation work like if a 5’9 guy wants to claim 5’11 he will guess me to be 6’0-6’1 to try and make that inflation work. Well the thing is I went to another Chiropractor appointment and they said my posture was bad, I have a weak core and need to work on those muscles. I can probably gain 1.5-2cm or something after I complete the exercises and maintain them so we will see. Yeah we would look similar in person and only if you looked closer you would see you edge me by like half an inch or so. Even my 5’11 friend who’s about your height, haven’t measured him but I’m guessing he’s a little taller than me and shorter than my 5’11.5ish friend who I used to think was 6’0 until I saw him with my legit 6’0 friend who could clear it by a fraction and seen a noticeable difference but while going back to back with him he thought he was the same height. He also originally thought I was 6’0 until we went back to back. My 5’6.25 eye level helps with that. Generally speaking the guys who are your range claim 6’0 and I don’t even mean guys who are 5’11.5-5’11.75” not even sure if most of them realize they hit it out of bed. But thanks man I just want to fix my posture and relieve the back pain.
Greg said on 11/Sep/20
@Canson Yeah pretty much, I mean a 1 inch difference is noticeable but some people are pretty bad at seeing even a 1 inch difference let alone half of an inch. Obviously 2 inches + will be easily noticeable even to people who are not height aware. If we are going by heights 2 hours out of bed I will be 1.25 inches taller than C-Mo my 5’10.75” to his 5’9.5” now let’s assume that his low is the 5’9.25-5’9.3 that he says he grew too. My low is essentially 5’10.5” give or take a few mm, but on some days I’ve measured bang on 5’10.5 many hours out of bed on hectic days. So the 1.25-1.3 inches needed to see a difference, while it’s certainly not big you will notice it. Especially. If you’re judging eye levels his is probably like 5’4.5-5’5ish mines in the 5’6 range so you will surely notice it. And yeah anything you measure is fair game, fractions are rarely used but occasionally I will see people claim them.
Also to what you where saying it’s leech behavior, people who suck the life and money out of you and try to make it seem like they are above you but in reality they are not.
Blanc said on 11/Sep/20
@Greg If you don't mind, could you measure your seating height? It would be really helpful to know the proportions of a normal 5'11-10 guy. Most guys I encounter have it around 90 cm so it's good to know people who are naturally lower (assuming that, given your leg length). Thanks.

Curiously my legs are 95.5 cm / 82cm true inseam and have been referred to as long on a few instances.
Blanc said on 11/Sep/20
@Greg May I know your true inseam? I read somewhere you have 42 inches long legs which is interesting since that would be extremely similar if I got a 10 cm leg lengthening and was worried about proportions. Are your proportions generally looked at positively?
Slim 6'1" said on 11/Sep/20
I need some company 👍
Slim 6'1 said on 11/Sep/20
Will, Greg and rob can come visit me.
Editor Rob
Our area is back in lockdown, no visiting from any other households...

And I had set up some folk to come buy sneakers too!
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 11/Sep/20
@ Bobby - Not a great deal has made me laugh over the past few days - I've been ill with a temperature and mysterious hemorrhaging, but that Comment of yours brought so much fun and frivolity into my head in an instant that this time I was bent up double - for all the right reasons!
Editor Rob
sounds bad, hope you recover!
Heightguy said on 10/Sep/20
If you measure 67.5 at about 1pm, and then 67.46 at 4, and at night about 67.37, are you a legit 67.5? Is that how you would list them?
Editor Rob
I think listing and claiming 5ft 7.5 is good for him.
Nik Ashton said on 10/Sep/20
I celebrate everything about an individual unless it causes harm to themselves (in terms of health) but I would still celebrate the individual always (and every individual) unless they harmed another person or animal.
Nik Ashton said on 10/Sep/20
@ Olympian - I do! 🎂 🎈

I celebrate all genders, sexualities, skin colours, etc etc
Greg said on 10/Sep/20
@Van Halen Unfortunately Robs too lenient now a days and let’s too many things slip through the cracks, like DojoMaster I would have instantly banned that nonsense. But who knows he banned Arthur for calling someone a manlet before so. But then he let him back in although he doesn’t visit the site anymore.

@Canson who Willes? He’s a weak 6’2 at best.
Editor Rob
I keep an eye to see if things naturally calm down at times, it is a bit silly getting into arguments (or losing temper really) over some random person's height, belief or claims.
John124 said on 10/Sep/20
Best heights:

1.) 184cm/185cm.
Great height, Tall enough, Perfect proportions at late morning/midday.

2.) 186cm/187cm.
Great height, Tall enough, Good proportions at late morning/midday.

3.) 182cm/183cm.
Great height, Just about tall enough, Perfect proportions at late morning/midday.

4.) 188cm/189cm.
Great height/Lanky proportions.

5.) 190cm/191cm.
Great height/Lanky proportions.

6.) 192cm/193cm.
Great height/Lanky proportions.

7.) 181cm/182cm.
Good height, Barely tall enough, Perfect proportions at late morning/midday.

8.) 179cm/180cm.
O.k height, Barely tall enough, Quite good proportions at late morning/midday.
Zober said on 10/Sep/20
@grizz yeah it is sad how many people are like this... especially in our country (i think i seen in your comments that you are from croatia?). The funny thing is all the women who called my dad short were much shorter then he was lol. Imagine a 160 cm woman calling a 176 cm man short. People should be judged by what they say and their personality not how tall they are or skinny or fat. Some people would litteraly force me to do more work cause im a "big strong guy" while they slack off.
Greg said on 9/Sep/20
@Zober I am making educated guesses based on my observation and information I’ve gathered from other people who live in that Country lol. I can say the same thing to you about what you think the average is because it’s merely because opinion. And what you say isn’t going to change what I think. How’s it fair that what you say has to be the truth; but what I say should all of a sudden be dismissed. And also, your “definition” of fine in regards to your English is different from the actual definition of fine. When I talk about fluency I mean that people not only understand you; but your grammar is good. And you type error free, which you do not. I will say your English is mediocre at best. Maybe that’s not the truth that you wanted to hear lol. But it’s true. Just because it was your favorite subject in school, doesn’t automatically make your Diction A+ material. But for all I know maybe you slept through your English classes 😉. That argument that you made saying “ I bet my English is better to non English speaking people” is irrelevant. That’s like me saying oh my basketball skills are better than people who don’t play at all and I only practice like 2 times a month lol. Again with the strawmen arguements maybe that’s your specialty. Also just to make you feel dumb about what you said. I speak Russian fluently and I’m willing to bet my Russian is better than your English. So how much money exactly are you betting? Because you’re about to go bankrupt but if you want to pay for my tuition I won’t say no 😂😉.
Ah again, with another logical fallacy. You think I only care about money and designer clothing. Lol, where did you draw that conclusion from? Other than your handbook of strawman arguments. And you’re wrong yet again, because you think you’re so smart and know everything. English was a 2nd language to me, I learned Russian first so for a while I was only listening to Russian and had trouble speaking and understanding English. But eventually I learned, so my Russian to match your Croatian which has nothing to do with your poor grammatical structure. It wouldn’t hurt you to take an extra minute to proof read or maybe look up the spelling some words if you’re not so sure Mr.Wise guy over there.

So going back to Swedish average, why is it that when I say things that are backed up by evidence and people’s observation that I am trolling? The Swedish average is 178-179cm five or take. Now going along the lines of comparing me to “Mrfunnyguy” who claims he feels barely average and even a bit short at 6’1 which is laughable a 6’1 guy is tall everywhere it doesn’t matter in which part of the world. You could take a 6’1 guy literally to any country as most people will say they are tall. Now you want to compare me to the average White Russian Male who averages 5’8-5’9 maybe LOL and I’m about average? That’s a funny one. You’re really good at analogies and making comparisons still above average. Even if you compare me to the majority of Europe because I’m taller than more country averages I am shorter. So that was a false statement. I can say the same thing about what your saying. I don’t agree with your opinion where as you don’t agree with mine. So me saying something that’s common sense is not trolling. Unless that’s your definition of it then so be it. I’ve never been called short even my 6’3 friend said I was almost his height and he was serious the difference isn’t big at all. “ you might not look short but you kind of do” since is a 4 inch range difference towering? 6’2 guys never call me short. I never said I feel like a giant but I’m comfortably taller than most men I see and shorter than a few it’s not a big deal. You’re not a giant either a 6’3 just kind of tall and In Europe just casual tall as opposed to very tall in U.S/U.K. Lol I’ve been called tallish by many observers of all heights as a matter of fact so that dismisses your argument. The definition of kind of short would be below 5’7, and even 5’7 guys in America can appear low average. So many people like yourself have a misconception about height and probably don’t know how tall anyone is if you think 5’10-5’11 is pretty short. Let me Guess 6’2 is just barely tall to you? But 6’3 is tall goes to show how you use your own height and false beliefs to try and reinforce arbitrary opinions..

Lol you should try to be a comedian you’re a funny kid. You’re saying that i am rude because you don’t agree with my opinions and are offended by the truth. But it’s better than me lying to you and telling you are well educated and have amazing English skills. Because it’s pretty bogus, I’m not angry I really could care less, I don’t know you like that or care enough to get offended by some nonsense on the Internet 😂. You’re projecting again all these insecurities. The Swedish and German average is not 180cm maybe in your made up fantasy and delusional word; but in reality it is not. And I’m sure you care so much about my back tilt and me gaining height. I honestly could care less I’m not insecure I’m fine with my height and anything else I gain of hidden height I’ll take as a bonus 😉 I don’t need your trolling and straw man arguments to tell me what I am or “how should I feel”. Only one that’s delusional here is you. 6’1 is tall in Europe. It’s still tall in Netherlands, Balkans and even Dinarc Alps, may not be super tall but tall enough. Most of the European average is 5’9/5’10 not 5’11/6’0 so you wonder why I feel a bit average there?
Greg said on 9/Sep/20
@cmillzz But do I care if someone calls me a 5’10 guy? I already said I’m a very strong 5’10 and a very weak 5’11. Even strong 5’10 by the sites standards. Lol I can be called a 5’11 guy, a 5’10 guy. That doesn’t bother me, I just pointed out to someone that I’m not a flat 5’10. I’ve even been referred to as a 6’0 guy because someone was inflating me. I even was guessed at 6’2 by a really short girl. So does that change what I measure?Nope. Hell I’ve even been called a 5’6 guy. I don’t measure close to it and I haven’t been 5’6 since like 14ish. However, C-Mo is going off on a tangent for some reason. Like Canson was saying he’s attempting to draw away attention from others calling him out on inconsistencies. So I guess let’s decide he’s 5’9.5 and I’m 5’10.75” There we meet the midpoint of what’s okay and what’s not 😂😂.
Greg said on 9/Sep/20
@DojoMaster Nice troll, I’ll give you an A for effort lol. So that’s funny apparently I don’t interact with anyone my height or shorter? So everyone here must be around 5’11 then right? That’s interesting guess Robs had a growth spurt as well. But the almighty Dojo Master who is which on his feet. And the eye of the tiger all 5’5 inches of pride that runs and keeps the Dojo healthy and clean. I really appreciate you taking the time to scrub the floors of the Dojo’s and mop everything. Must help you after you try to catch some flies on the door. These flies seem to have bugs that pollute your brain and chance the way of normal thinking.

It seems you live in a backwards universe and such, Ryan is your imaginary friend? Oh good heavens I didn’t mean to bully your imaginary friend. And wait I thought you where jimmy, how many genders do you identify with. Is Jimmy one of your identities. Interesting enough. I think you got me confused with someone else Glenn. After your battle with Rob under the stadiometer I don’t think you have much room to talk. I think I can recommend a good shrink located in Scotland eh.
Greg said on 9/Sep/20
@181Guy No it’s not, in the U.S 176cm stays the average. It’s not 178cm, in Europe I think some countries average might be developing but an influx of immigrants brings it down. 178cm or 5’10 is above average in the U.S and likely in the U.K as well.
181guy said on 9/Sep/20
@Greg Yeah..unless it's obvious that one is smaller lol. Lean people or people with long legs, arms or torso, often are perceived taller because of an illusion I think, rob might have mentioned it before. Any person that knows their true height will be able to guess other's people's better. You're being guessed taller rather than shorter and that's a good thing although sometimes annoying..but can it be annoying for you sometimes? When you're perceived taller then I think folks are convinced that you're at least 6'0. 5'10 truly is a solid height, here or abroad, anyone should tell you that. Btw I'm not saying 5'10 is short. I'm less than an inch taller than yourself too. Do you want to grow another 7-8mm or something? If 178.8-9 is your low? And I have poor posture too so I understand..but hopefully you regain your lost height and get things fixed.
Poster said on 9/Sep/20
@Sakz: You can look at history in the same way. At one time, European Americans and Plains Native Americans were the tallest demographic groups in the world, and there was a time when Dutch people were the shortest demographic group in Europe. During the Industrial Revolution, there was a record-setting height disparity between income groups. I see that kind of thing here with girls from poor/rich sections of town, but it's definitely not as pronounced.

@Nik: It's interesting, but I don't attach PC outlooks to it. I'm neutral on it.
Canson said on 9/Sep/20
Greg said on 8/Sep/20
@Canson yep, sounds all too familiar. Reminds me also of a person I used to be friends with. The people that engage in strawmen arguments are also manipulative and sly. It’s funny Ted Bundy was like that too and low and behold he was a serial killer. It also could be narcissism and anti-social personality sometimes. And yeah it’s annoying these people must think that they run stuff and the world revolves around them. God forbid you make one mistake they try to capitalize on it. However, when you need something especially if money is involved they won’t be there unless it benefits them.

@Greg: the one that I’m referring to is equally as bad. We’re talking someone who will say he’s broke last minute after he planned a get together and expect others to pick up slack or one where you pay for him then another time if it’s say something he does for you he expects you to repay him. I know exactly what you’re talking about. Exactly why I had to distance myself from him
Canson said on 9/Sep/20
cmillz said on 7/Sep/20
If C-mo is a 5’9 guy, then it’s totally fair game to call Greg a 5’10 guy. Don’t see how anyone can argue against this.

Yea if you saw them back to back it’s gonna be 1” in appearance. C-Mo claims to have gained a small fraction but even if he were still at 5’9.2 or a hair over that’s gonna just look a full inch. You don’t see a difference until you get around 1.25–1.3”. If you use the numbers Greg would be Close enough to have and if C-Mo truly grew to 5’9.3 range then he’s close enough now but at 5’9.2 I think that’s closer to 5’9”. I don’t look at what someone is when they wake up per se. I look at normal low and 5 hours after being awake which is 1/8” over that mark. Like for me I elect to claim 6’4” but I used to claim 6’4 1/2” years back. I stopped when I realize I’m 6’4.25 so now I just say I’m 6’4”. I think anything in that 1/4-3/8” range is probably a weak half but 3/8 is about enough imho
QM6'1QM said on 9/Sep/20
Van Halen said on 6/Sep/20

Agreed :)
Olympian said on 9/Sep/20
@Nik

He doesn't "celebrate" anything. He just brings forth statistical information on height averages, that's all. Let's not bring out cakes and balloons because one guy is 5'7 and the guy next to him is 6'1. Genetic diversity is a thing, not everybody is going to be the exact same height.
Nik said on 8/Sep/20
@ Poster - I hope that in the future everyone celebrates height diversity, I know you do.
Nik said on 8/Sep/20
@ Comment95j - In the UK it depends on county!

@ Cindy Pall - How tall are you?
Nik said on 8/Sep/20
@ Yongkulai - You could claim to be 5'7.25"!
Nik said on 8/Sep/20
@ Greg - Thanks!

@ Blanc - Yes!
Nik said on 8/Sep/20
@ Poster - She was looking to buy a house!
Nik said on 8/Sep/20
@ stevezero - Absolutely!
Nik said on 8/Sep/20
@ Zober - 176 cm is solid average!
181guy said on 8/Sep/20
Rob, is the national average height slowly rising UK/US? I thought the average height for young people might have been 176cm. If it's really near 178 then maybe 177cm for younger people nowadays?
Editor Rob
over last 20 years there's not much shift, a few mm's really.
Nik Ashton said on 8/Sep/20
@ Greg - 👍
Greg said on 8/Sep/20
@181Guy Having a lean build is good to being perceived taller. Long arms, long legs and a short torso is what I have and people always guess me to be taller. I rarely get guessed my height or shorter. I think both a strong 5’11 and weak 5’11 are good heights, better than being shorter. Unless that’s what you’re into. 5’10 also isn’t bad, I will even say this if I became 5’10.75” at my lowest which is essentially a weak 5’11 I would be perfectly okay with that. There’s been days where I’ve dropped to 5’10.5-5’10.6 close to my low and if I can get my back tilt I fixed I have potential room to get some height. Apparently my posture is worse than I thought and stretching will really benefit me especially since I’ve had some bad back pain, damaged discs are likely causing it.
Nik Ashton said on 8/Sep/20
@ Poster - 2 true!
6'3 Julian said on 8/Sep/20
What is going on in this page? Could somebody bring me up to speed
Greg said on 8/Sep/20
@Canson Yeah he tries way too hard if C-Mo says he’s 5’9.5 but gets offended when I refer to him as a 5’9 guy. Yet he’s just as close to 5’9 as he is 5’9.5. The only time I explain and get really focused on the breakdown of my measurements is when people tell me I’m not a very weak 5’11 guy ( so 5’10.4” at my lowest ) but then also say that I’m a flat 5’10, so I’m simply correct them. But I never claim to be a legit 5’11 and since I’m usually around 5’10.5-5’10 5/8ths a few hours out of bed I can get referred to as as both a 5’10 and 5’11 guy because I’m literally just as close to both marks. Now I don’t think it’s a big deal because anything you measure is fair game.
Greg said on 8/Sep/20
@Canson yep, sounds all too familiar. Reminds me also of a person I used to be friends with. The people that engage in strawmen arguments are also manipulative and sly. It’s funny Ted Bundy was like that too and low and behold he was a serial killer. It also could be narcissism and anti-social personality sometimes. And yeah it’s annoying these people must think that they run stuff and the world revolves around them. God forbid you make one mistake they try to capitalize on it. However, when you need something especially if money is involved they won’t be there unless it benefits them.
Dylan Harris said on 7/Sep/20
@rob yeah I'm around 150 lbs so I suppose I would look lanky enough.
Dojomaster said on 7/Sep/20
My brother, I love you, but I must out you here:

Everyone, do you notice how Greg reacts in an incredibly infantile manner whenever confronted with someone who is either taller or shorter than him? And how he loves talking to people who are around his height (179cm)?

Well I have a big reveal. He has always been this way. Remember how you bullied Ryan (alias) just because he was 183cm and walked with a slouch? You used to call him "Mr. 176cm" and called him "shorty" behind his back, and I imagine it was all done to make yourself feel taller.

And now on this general heights thread Greg is perpetuating the same venomous behavior. Everyone taller or shorter than him is a big joke (or is a "Glen" or "Jimmy"--fyi Jimmy was a 5'8" kid he bullied) while people his exact height are his brethren. Well Greg I tried to be the bigger man here but you bullying me again led us to this point. I just wanted to try and defend your ego so that you'd grow out of your insecurities, but I seem to have just made this worse.
Zober said on 7/Sep/20
@greg i only wanted to know why do you make up averages in your head and get mad when people question you and you call me stupid and uneducated. My english is fine and it was my favorite subject in school. No one ever told me that my english is bad and offcourse it sounds bad to you since you live in an english speaking country but compared to non english speaking people my english is good and i can bet money on the fact that the languages you speak are worse then my english. You remind me off people who insult others for wearing low value brands off clothes because they cant afford better. Learning a foreign language is hard so me making spelling mistakes is to be expected (not that i am trying to) and try using you brain man, you litteraly grew up listening to english and i grew up listening to croatian so offcourse my english will suck compared to yours. Dude swedish average is 180 cm which means you are just as big off a "troll" as funnyguy. I never questioned your height i believe you are what you say(you accuse me off stuff i didnt even say and then i am stupid?). And i never said you are not above average in the united states. I am saying that you are average height compared to white men off european descent (i think you are white). People should compare themselves to their own race. Why would you compare yourself to asian or arab men since their average height is 170 cm? A 180 cm man will feel like a giant if he only hanged around indians or syrians. And you might not think you look short next to 6'2" or 6'3" guys but you really do, you come up to the eyebrows off a 188 cm man and to the eyes of a 6'3" man. You might no feel short but to a observer you will look kinda short.

I really wanted to reason with you but i give up. You are a very rude person full off bitter and rage (you called me stupid, uneducated and insecure several times, when did i insult you? I only said that you make up stuff and that you are a little delusional). I truly hope glucosamine and your chiropractor and stretching will help you gain 1-2 cm so you can be at the very least 180 cm. For the last time:
-you are average height
-swedish and german average is 180 cm
-I really dont get you but ok... Even 6 foot 1 isnt considered particularly tall in the majority of european countries and yet you think you are above average in some european countries.
Canson said on 7/Sep/20
slim 6'1 said on 6/Sep/20
will is a weak 6'3 wether as im a weak 6'2"

He’s a strong 6’2. He said his afternoon is slightly under 189 or right at 189 tops
Sakz said on 7/Sep/20
@Poster Exactly that puts it into perspective. I've always found it quite tricky to guess the average in my country because it varies a lot and there are many factors which influence an individuals height. Not to mention big contrasts between certain countries when talking about the average. It's what makes the topic quite interesting.
cmillz said on 7/Sep/20
If C-mo is a 5’9 guy, then it’s totally fair game to call Greg a 5’10 guy. Don’t see how anyone can argue against this.
Van Halen said on 6/Sep/20
@Greg

There is a guy called Vexacus. He tell me he is 5'9.25". But, he also tell me he was 5'7.25" at 17 although he stopped growing at 14.

Rob should ban that type of guys, Vexacus thinks 6'0 is average in US.
Enrico said on 6/Sep/20
Hi, i throw something in from the other side of the ocean...

6'0 in Germany is not "tall" for males.
5'11 is average for (young) men nowadays in Germany.
100-120 years ago the average for young men was roundabout 5'7 (statista website).
I am approx. 6'1 and i don't really feel tall.
When i was young (with 20), 6'1 was really okay (the girls liked it anyway).
40 years later 6'3 is clearly the new 6'1 for young men!
Sometimes i went with 4 other IT colleagues to lunch break in a near supermarket.
age height
30 6'5
32 6'3
45 6'3
55 6'3 1/2
... so i am the "gnome" in this group. Very very funny... haha.
(Advantage: there is no stupid chat up from others...)
Best regards.
Canson said on 6/Sep/20
@Greg: it’s funny. I know someone who is an acquaintance (won’t call him a friend anymore As I distanced myself from him) who is good at making straw man arguments. He is also good at deflecting attention off himself. Someone who is selfish, a user, narcissistic, etc you name it. You know the one who tries to get stuff for free but isn’t willing to do anything for others and the one who likes to meet up but never has cash on him? But he’s quick to go and call out someone else for stuff that he perceives them doing when he does the same (those people’s actions are peanuts compared to what he does). Then when you call him on something it turns into a straw man argument where he takes the attention away from what is really going on or he goes off on a tangent oh well I wouldn’t do that etc when he has little wisdom to even be qualified to give advice
Van Halen said on 6/Sep/20
Top best heights in my opinion

1)6'1 (6'1.25" best height)
2)6'2
3)6'0
4)5'11
5)6'3 (190 cm and 191 cm)
6)5'10 to 5'7
7)6'4 to 6'9
8)5'6
Greg said on 6/Sep/20
@Zober Interesting so you create a Strawman arguement in order to "validate" your poorly mispelled comment that is infact difficult to read. However, you say just because 'people' speak different languages that makes it okay to not learn how to properly spell in english Lol. That's just laughable. And maybe because 177cm is closer to the Swedish average than 183cm or 6'0. But yeah I am the troll :P Sounds legit. No your guy's english is pretty terrible and I don't mean this in a rude way but from a typical standpoint the average person will have difficulty understanding you especially in person. So you might want to touch up your english. Yes Ben and a few others agree with him, the Swedish average can't be more than 5'10 range that's my opinion based on facts and it stands.

So you want to say that just because somebody is over 5'9 they can't possibly feel above average? I hope you know that in the U.S the average for all males is proably 5'8 range thats young and old combined. So anybody even in the 5'9 range could feel marginally above average and there's no surprise when you hear guys who are 5'10/5'11 feeling above average and tallish because they are. Since you seem to be poorly educated I will take this time to explain percentile charts to you. So let's take a 5'9.25 guy who is 50th percentile in the U.S. This means he is average, now 5'10 flat which I am taller than but for example straight 5'10 is already like 64th percentile which means you will be taller than say 4 out of 10 Men and 4 out of 10 men will be taller than you give or take. Of course this depends on locations, environmental factors and many other things will come into play. So my height right let's take something I can measure several hours out of bed for the sake of this arguement. I will be like 5' 10 5/8ths which puts me at the 70th percentile U.S so I will be taller than supposedly 7 out of 10 Men and only 3 out of 10 Men will be my height or taller based on statistics which have been proven to be true. You ask me how can I feel above average if I am infact above average, it doesn't matter by how much but the fact is that I am. Guys who measure 5'10.5+ start to feel tallish in the U.S that is for sure. Not a lot of guys I see are even my height or taller. I am not saying it's impossible but I rarely even see guys my height. So again you write another 'strawman' arguement saying How can I feel above average if you at supposedly 6'3.25 barely feel taller than your 6'2 range brother. That is an irrelevant statement that has nothing to do with what I am talking about. Obviously if you're 6'3 a 6'2 guy isn't going to seem that much shorter than you, but the difference will be noticable 1 inch differences are noticable. I don't even feel that much shorter than a 6'2 guy sure you can notice it but I don't feel towered at all I hold my own well against 6'2 and 6'3 guys so it's not a big deal. I think you should learn what a strawman arguement is. Ask Canson if you need some help, he will point you to the right direction lol. And it's redundant for you to question my claim, because I've had tons of measurement videos and photos of myself posted. Not that I have to explain myself to you or anyone but I could say the same for you. But honestly I don't really care about you enough to worry about you or your claim for that matter xD just isn't relevant to me in my life. I have no idea where you live maybe you live on an island with midgets and you're the tallest person there so that's why you get 'weird' looks. There's nothing weird about being 6'3 you are tall but not giant range. You do have a few drawbacks at height but not enough to make your life miserable compared to say a 6'7 guy or something like that. You're not a giant unless visting countries where the average is 5'2-5'5 or something. I have no idea what's up with that.

In reality like I said nobody really cares how tall you are unless you're an outlier an when I say outlier I mean extremely short and tall. Many will back me up with my statement. I rarely get asked my height outside of girls who just care about height. Or occasionally if it gets brought up somewhere that I am but other than that I could go even months without being asked my height. And 5'9 isn't really short unless your dad is 5'7.5 or something claiming 5'9 in that case I could see how they would call him short. And maybe those girls have something wrong with their head and or daddy issues and they are taking it out on your father. Women are strange sometimes and project their insecurities onto others maybe they where jealous that they couldnt date your dad and where lowkey attracted to him and that was their coping mechanism. A lot of people have strange ways of dealing with things of that short. And 5'6 is short but from my experience most people apart from shallow women dont care about height. I know plenty of 5'6 guys who slay in fact, I know a 5'3 guy who slays. Sure maybe some women don't want him but why would he want her then. Shallow women aren't attractive.
Greg said on 6/Sep/20
@Dojomaster Glenn, I am sorry man I can change I promise just give me some time ok? I was only telling them the truth if you really wanted to keep your identity a secret like the Clark Kent of Celeb Heights maybe you should have left the switch to the generator of the Height Warping Machine flipped on in public. Despite the fact, I think the majority would have discovered your true self and height warping antics. You cannot surely be 5'8 if you're 5'5. But.. I think we can reason here the Case of Rob Paul's Fraud Height Department Grants you with 5'6 3/8ths Curtosy of our operations in Glasgow Scotland.. How's that sound little Jimmy?
Canson said on 6/Sep/20
c-mo 176.2cm said on 4/Sep/20
Canson there is no need to rationalize anything . I am a 5'9.5 guy period

As I stated earlier you can claim whatever you want. However you do rationalize it. Ok if you claim 5’9.5”, then don’t get upset with people for claiming an afternoon height or with rounding down 177.2 to 177. Or else if you feel compelled to do that, then don’t get upset with Greg for referring to you as 5’9.25 and 5’9”. You can’t have it both ways
Canson said on 6/Sep/20
ajax509 said on 5/Sep/20
@Greg C-mo claimed 177cm 2h out of bed. 5ft 9.5 equals 176.53cm. Check your facts.

His claims have changed. He claims to have grown from 5’9.2 to .3. Truthfully if he falls to 5’9.3 in the afternoon, 5’9 1/2 is a fair claim. But as I mentioned to Greg, C-Mo has claimed to be overweight which may impact his Height loss. However, as I mentioned in my last post, Greg never had an issue with his claim. Instead, C-Mo’s claim has become topic of the conversation and not the real issue which I mentioned earlier. That’s called using a straw man argument to divert the attention because he knows he is guilty of what Greg said which is a double standard. I know so because when I addressed him on the issue, he turned it around on my height claim and said “you just don’t want to be 6’5”. I’m 6’5 out of bed and 6’4.25 afternoon so because I’m not using his logic he flipped it on me. Like I said before, if you tell your boss you can only work a small portion of the day would you have a job? Probably not. So why would I claim a height I measure right out of bed or even 2 hours out? Especially when you are aware it varies? I can see if you do it not being aware but it’s clear here. But to each it’s own. Conventional wisdom says that Rob’s method is appropriate. Which is 5 hours plus. At that stage your normal low and your height around lunch only vary about 1/8”
grizz said on 6/Sep/20
Yeah sure lol... I get many weird looks and comment at "only" 191 cm. My 176 cm dad got called short by loads of women even though he is low average. I went to his work once and the women there startet laughing at how much he was shorter than me and called me tall and him short. I have a friend who is 5'6" what do you thing people say to him if my dad is "short"? Manlet, shorty, midget... Some people keep their opinion so they dont come off as rude.

These people have a ton of personal crap and baggage that they vent out on other people. I have nothing but disrespect for such people. Either you have something nice to say about others or shut up.
slim 6'1 said on 6/Sep/20
will is a weak 6'3 wether as im a weak 6'2"
slim 6'1 said on 6/Sep/20
i can assure u my camels back isnt broken, im fine. if people wnt to limit me they can, but i will not limit myself

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