General Height

Emil said on 24/Jun/25
Emil said on 23/Jun/25
Emil said on 22/Jun/25
@Rob

Chris Bumstead measured 6'1.5 barefoot Click Here


Here you can see the head piece and the lines a bit better

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Editor Rob
Interesting seeing the second angle to the measurement. That platter is very wobbly, but I believe it was clear that it's close enough to 186.5cm (about 6ft 1.4).

So if this were earlier in the day he's got to be 6ft 1.25 at lunch



@Rob

Yes, I always thought he'd be closer to 6 foot flat, but I guess this verifies that he's actually in the 6'1 range. Are you thinking of adding Cbum to the site, or would you need more proof?
Editor Rob
It was clear enough to me he cleared 186cm that moment, so I think as a lunchtime height 1.25 is fair enough. I will give him a page.
However, that youtuber Kanevsky held the tape beside him at 6ft 1 range (in a sneaker), so I don't know!


@Editor Rob

Kanevsky measured Larry Wheels in shoes at 6'1.5 with his method. I'm not sure if you can take it at face value

Click Here

Siner739 said on 24/Jun/25
it doesn’t make sense for c bum to be 6’1 when we know how he looks compared to 6’2 david laid. weird.

Alex174cm said on 24/Jun/25
Hey Rob,

If I’m 174.4cm first thing in the morning and 172.8cm end of day, what would you list me as?

avi said on 23/Jun/25
@Dave5ft7ish said on 21/Jun/25

I mean I know a guy at work who's maybe 5'5 and he married someone 5'7
So it depends
It's just not as common


Agreed all have different experiences and philosophies
Some ppl just don't even notice or care about height so it's not even a factor to them
And yes then newer generation is obsessed with appearances quite a bit
It definitely stems from dating apps and all that

labubu said on 23/Jun/25
hey big rob, was wondering about BMI, calorie trackers and whether to use morning, night, or average height of the two. I always use my first thing in the morning weight, fasted, but my BMI fluctuates a bit depending on which heights I use. I'm around 179cm first thing in the morning and typically 176.5cm at night, with an extreme low of 176. What do you think I should put for this?

ithadtobeyou1924 said on 23/Jun/25
@Emil And yet a lot of people on the internet go on about how he's got to be 5'11 or 6'0. There is probably a ton of celebrities on this site listed as 6'0 who are probably more like 6'1-6'2 in reality.

Emil said on 23/Jun/25
Emil said on 22/Jun/25
@Rob

Chris Bumstead measured 6'1.5 barefoot Click Here


Here you can see the head piece and the lines a bit better

Click Here
Editor Rob
Interesting seeing the second angle to the measurement. That platter is very wobbly, but I believe it was clear that it's close enough to 186.5cm (about 6ft 1.4).

So if this were earlier in the day he's got to be 6ft 1.25 at lunch



@Rob

Yes, I always thought he'd be closer to 6 foot flat, but I guess this verifies that he's actually in the 6'1 range. Are you thinking of adding Cbum to the site, or would you need more proof?

Gerald S said on 23/Jun/25
Rob, is 6’0” likely for a young Ian Fleming?

Siner739 said on 22/Jun/25
@Mike190 said “Just think about it, back then 6ft was widely considered the ideal height, whereas 6ft2 was very tall. That's why all the superheros that were created back then where made 6ft 1-3: Captain America, Batman, Superman, etc. If those superheros were created currently they'd all be in the 6ft4-7 range.”

Disagree with this. superhero comics became popular in the 40s and the average male height was 5’9 then. it’s not even a full inch taller now in the present day. height hasn’t grown as much as people say according to studies.

JGN said on 22/Jun/25
Rob, how tall does Jordan Barrett look next to Elizabeth Debicki wearing heels?

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ithadtobeyou1924 said on 22/Jun/25
@sofar Ngl, if they didn't know your measurements (and maybe even if they did), you'd probably be listed at 183cm at this site lmfao. The more you downgrade others, the more accurate

Progking185 said on 22/Jun/25
@sofar claim 187, you can say 188 too as you measure it and more honest than those who inflate their height haha. My range is about 187 morning, 184.7/6'0.75 night and I just claim 185 or 6'1 as I'm right around 185 for most of the day. I don't claim 187 but people guess me as that or even 188/6'2 anyway.

Emil said on 22/Jun/25
@Rob

Chris Bumstead measured 6'1.5 barefoot Click Here


Here you can see the head piece and the lines a bit better

Click Here

grizz said on 22/Jun/25
@sofar, just go with 187. You'll sound like a kid if you say I am 186 and a half cm tall :D
Nobody can spot that 0.5 cm in real life, not even our esteemed celebheights colleagues.

Drewy said on 21/Jun/25
@Rob, what height would you give Jungkook from BTS? Similar to your height?

Gerald S said on 21/Jun/25
Rob, I’ve seen 6’1.5” listings for Sonny Rollins. Do they add up?

avi said on 21/Jun/25
@rlheight5'11 said on 20/Jun/25

Hmmmm. Bond is 6'0ish is Fleming's books

So someone like me 5'11.8 - 6'0.2 would fit as in have darker brown hair as well
Maybe I can lose 10 lbs though lol
But I think 5'11-6'1 is good for Bond
6'2 max
Bond was never meant to be some lanky guy 6'3+

He's the versatile ideal height for male.
5'11-6'2 (6'1 zone max probably for Bond)

Hopefully they choose someone in this zone

Connery, Lazenby and Dalton all were around same height 6'2ish and I felt Connery and Dalton pulled it off ok

Kiers said on 21/Jun/25
Hey Rob, 14 hours out of bed after a working semi relaxed day with no weights after getting up from lying on a sun lounger for an hour I clocked in just after 10pm at 172.5cm. Weight was 66.5kg.

Can lying down prior to an evening measurement boost our height ?

Giovannino said on 21/Jun/25
rob if a person gets out of bed with a height of 6ft 1, do you think it is better (using the metric system) to declare 184cm or 183cm.
thanks Rob

sofar said on 21/Jun/25
I measured myself for the first time at several points throughout the day. Here's how it went:
Out of bed : 188.1-188.2cm
1h out of bed : 187.4cm
5h out of bed : 186.7cm
8h out of bed : 186.3cm
at my lowest after walking for hours : 185.9-186.1cm

What would my listing be on this site according to my height pattern?

Chris Paul said on 21/Jun/25
Hey Rob what’s the height difference between these guys
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rlheight5'11 said on 21/Jun/25
@Rob
Yeah pretty much, I don’t think anyone would believe me if I told them I was under 6ft and probably pull off looking it at times due to my frame/build. The part where I said I have the height to be the next bond was a joke.

Dave5ft7ish said on 21/Jun/25
I don't find any issue with the stereotype of women having preferences of wanting a tall man, because we all have over-the-top preferences all the time.
It's human nature to want the best, if given the opportunity.

But, Preferences don't necessarily mean it'll be a dealbreaker.

More often than not, Those women will be ready to put their height preferences aside in a heartbeat if the person in question really passes the vibe check.
And If someone is using height as an excuse for rejection, that someone is either purely superficial or it's a simple way of expressing their lack of interest.

Dave5ft7ish said on 21/Jun/25
avi said on 19/Jun/25
"I think a man who is even over 5'7 should be fine because a lot of shorter women 4'11-5'3 will be perfectly fine with that"


Sounds like bad news to me, I prefer woman over in the tall range above even if I'm 5'7ish man myself.

Anyways, I ain't gonna change my preference and settle for the tiny 5'2" just because I'm 5'7".

And so far, my 5'7" height never troubled me even a tiny bit. And due to my preference, I often prefer taller ones than me TBH


And about earlier comment, Ok I agree that philosophies on height varies from person to person. And it's all about what the individual feels comfortable with, it's a confidence boost for some after all.
And yes, modern generation has become too superficial and so, I understand where many sentiments are coming off from. And not judging

Gerald S said on 21/Jun/25
Rob, would you go along with 5’11” peak for Alan Greenspan?

grizz said on 21/Jun/25
@Mike190, our girls don't care much about Arnold look.
They mostly want a big guy with big arms, legs and chest, 6 pack is not important.
They prefer the powerlifter look over bodybuilder.

A cousin of mine, who is 5'11, she is built like a model, literally she could pick any guy in this world. She chose a 6'4 280 lbs guy (far from 6 pack physique), I guess so she appears more feminine (less imposing) next to her husband.

Younger women (under 23 y.o.) have the hots for shredded guys, but their taste also changes eventually .

rlheight5'11 said on 20/Jun/25
@Rob
I never go below 180 at my extreme low, I’m a comfortable 5’11. Not to brag but I have the height to be the next Bond.

Gerald S said on 20/Jun/25
Rob, what height might you give Robert Goulet?

avi said on 20/Jun/25
@Ziren said on 19/Jun/25
" Yeah maybe 0,1% of women prefer average let alone a short man. Haha!"


Nah lol I think many ppl overestimate height and women thing

It is skewed nowadays due to take off from tik tok and YT and all the narcissistic tendencies of people posting videos showing themselves off on social media

There are a lot of women creeped out by overly large men
Obviously MOST women want men 5'11-6'3 with 6'1-6'2 being a gold standard unless the woman is 5'10+ they may prefer 6'4-6'7 men. So there's no doubt most women want men at least taller than average. But there's a cutoff.

even women 5'9-5'11 I have seen many with semi tall guys in the 5'11-6'1 zone

I'd say maybe 20% prefer men more average than tall
If you go on some dating app and the pool of girls you see are mostly sorority types and self absorbed then obviously that throws off the numbers
Most of those types look 6'0+

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 20/Jun/25
I thought the last survey they did in UK had a 177.5cm average for young guys, i might be wrong.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 20/Jun/25
My dads only an inch taller than my mum, she told me she doesn't care about a guys height as long as they are taller than her, I think most women have the same feeling. Yes, you get done girls who are shallow and only want 6 foot fellas. And my mum is about 5'6 so most guys are taller than her.

rlheight5'11 said on 20/Jun/25
@ObliviousOblivion
One height survey before showed 178-178.4 for younger men in the us/uk.

Sam the 5'11.75 said on 19/Jun/25
Hi Rob.

Does a 5'11 and 1/4 extreme low seem plausible for someone who is over 6 foot out of bed and then 5'11 and 3/4 for most of the rest of the day (lazy day)

This was a measurement I got after a long day of pulling boxes about at work and the lowest I've ever measured myself to be

Mike190 said on 19/Jun/25
@grizz

Well I am 70kgs so I guess I would be cooked then. There is no way that I could get to 100kg lean without steroids, no chance in the world. I would have to be over 200cm tall to weigh 100kg lean naturally.

85kg would be a much more reasonable target weight at ~6ft2 if you want to appear muscular, maybe 90kg at the absolute most. 100kg is overweight and requires steroids if you want to be lean.

Do the girls there not mind if you're chubby or do they want the bodybuilder look? I personally feel much better being lean and light. Don't care if women think I'm too skinny since I care about my health above everything else.

Mike190 said on 19/Jun/25
@avi

Look at this guy for example: Click Here

From a distance no way he looks close to 7ft. Sure he has long limbs but based on his overall look and face he could easily appear 6ft flat from a distance.

There are cases in the opposite direction as well were people look much taller than they are due to wonky proportions despite being below average height.

rlheight5'11 said on 19/Jun/25
@Giovannino
Ronaldo’s son jr first started training in the gym from the age of ..like 9 lol, probably even had the same diet program as him.

Ziren said on 19/Jun/25
@avi Yeah maybe 0,1% of women prefer average let alone a short man. Haha!

avi said on 19/Jun/25
c-mo 176-177cm said on 19/Jun/25


Yes there definitely is a large pool of women who are fine with shorter men
Many women I've talked to don't care about height
I don't think a lot of women would desire a 6'4+ man as the aesthetic starts to wear off at 6'3
There's a study out there that shows it peaks around there
More isn't always better maybe with money it is lol


But there's enough taller women with men a few inches shorter so it's not that rare.

Obviously MOST women prefer men 5'9-6'3 range (at least average to solid tall)
Again that 5'11-6'2 zone comes into play
But agreed personality, charisma and face are more important
All those things including height work in synergy

One really can't say "oh 6'1 or 6'2 is 100% perfect or ideal" as we discussed lot of factors come into play
I think a man who is even over 5'7 should be fine because a lot of shorter women 4'11-5'3 will be perfectly fine with that
Not every women is acting on a primal urge to be "defended or protected" by guys 9 inches + taller

c-mo 176-177cm said on 19/Jun/25
@avi

you said :

"In fact there's a large pool of women who prefer men shorter side or average as opposed to ~6'0"

that is not true . if women could choose the height of their men most of them would choose something between 5'11 to 6'3 and many would also like 6'4+ too (but 5'11 - 6'3 range is most desired) and many also like 5'8 and over or are at least okay with it but most women would not want a guy who is below 5'7 . doesnt mean that men below 5'7 cant get women but they have it harder 100% .

it is when you are a legit 5'8 barefoot where you can not blame your lack of success with women on your height anymore . but most women if they can choose they will take a high end of average to normal tall man with good proportions and a mesomorphic body structure

but face and personality / game are the most important things to get women . after 5'8 it motly about face and body frame . most women would take a 5'9 - 5'10 guy with a good looking face and good body structure over a tall guy who is not so good looking and / or has bad proportions .

avi said on 18/Jun/25
@Dave5ft7ish said on 17/Jun/25


You make a lot of assumptions from just reading my one comment

Who said to impress ladies?? Lol
That's your opinion and mentality
Plenty of shorter guys do fine with ladies
In fact there's a large pool of women who prefer men shorter side or average as opposed to ~6'0

Some people may do it for themselves
Possibly for financial reasons think like models or those in a business where height (to a certain limit) is an asset

I do agree 5'8 is probably too tall for it
But look at it this way
5'3 guy gets 4-5 inches he's still barely even average
5'7-5'8 can get to 5'11-6'1 zone

And actually be tall

I just made a comment that to me personally if I was 5'7-5'8 I would consider it
Didn't say I'd actually do it
And yes as I said it's kind of crazy but we all have different philosophies and opinions


And I'm well aware it's painful
I know people who broke legs and it's a lot to deal with

Ideally everyone can be happy with who they are but we are in an age where people want to be things they are not and put a lot of store in altering their appearance

Chris Paul said on 18/Jun/25
Hey Rob, what is the height difference between these two guys
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Yongzhong26 said on 18/Jun/25
Hi Rob

Your website has provided a lot of entertainment for me over the last few years - I was wondering if there was any way to donate/ become a subscriber or something?

Also can I request pages to be added to these people? They will provide a lot of traffic from the younger generation and I’ve noticed they are not on here:

Central Cee (British Rapper) [lots of comparisons with other people]
Cole Anderson-James (British YouTuber)
Mashtag Brady (British YouTuber)
Angry Ginge (British YouTuber)
DDG (American Rapper and YouTuber)
Mya Mills (Internet Personality)
Burna Boy (Nigerian Singer/songwriter)
Bryce Hall (Tiktoker)

Cheers

MatPit said on 18/Jun/25
Hi Rob, would you say that a typical celebheights listing for a roughly 6ft tall person is around 3/8 inch above their extreme low (very physical day lowest) or closer to 1/4"?

Gerald S said on 18/Jun/25
Rob, can you add NEIGHBOURS star, Ian Smith?

Listed commonly as 5’11”, but I have my doubts about that figure for Ian. He could be more 5’10”…

avi said on 17/Jun/25
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 17/Jun/25

Yes it seems very painful
If it was like a one month thing and bam everything normal and walk perfectly fine even with $50-100k cost I'd do it for sure if I was 5'7-5'8 to get to 5'11-6'1 zone

But yes not worth it being only are alive 80-90 years or so
As get older I think things like height matter less

MatPit said on 17/Jun/25
@c-mo 176-177cm
The last statistics I saw was 180.4cm for 19-year-olds in Finland, I'd guess we can take that as a lunch time/ noon measurement on average.
I also feel like the likelihood for a person to hold other aspects of beauty like good proportions in body or face gets smaller the further we go from average height, so tall height has usually some "cost". I guess when we think about ideal we like to think what if there wasn't this cost and the person was visually ideal otherwise too...
Tall is good but sometimes you also want to blend in better... different heights seem to have their own benefits.
But yeah I think the few centimetre difference we have in the perceived ideal could be explained by refering to different national averages.

Chris Paul said on 17/Jun/25
Hey Rob what does the height difference between Flight and Julian Newman look like.
Click Here

Dave5ft7ish said on 17/Jun/25
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5

Finally, someone with sense!!
If a guy is even 5'6", getting leg lengthening surgery is kinda crazy.(a little understandable but still).
Let alone the people unironically saying they'd consider it even at 5'7 or 5'8 🤦‍♂️, to go through all that pain and suffering.
All for impressing some ladies?? Idk, it's just crazy.
Ofc, anyone would want to be taller than they are, if they are shorter than Average but leg lengthening surgery is such a sadistic approach.
Maybe people aren't aware of how much painful and tough it is.

Giovannino said on 17/Jun/25
Message in perfect English:

Hi Rob, I have a very specific question for you.
Let’s say you find out that a celebrity measures somewhere between 6ft 5/8 and 6ft 3/4 after standing for three and a half hours.

In that case, would you prefer to:

round down and list them at 6ft 1/2, since three and a half hours is not yet five or six hours and therefore their height hasn’t fully "stabilized"?
or

would you rather go with 6ft 3/4, based on the actual measurement at the time?


Thank you very much!

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 17/Jun/25
@avi

If a guy was like 5'3 I kinda understand leg lengthening but 5'7-5'8 is no where near short enough to be worth the pain you go through.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 17/Jun/25
@MatPit

would the 180cm average for finland be a morning - early noon value or would it be evening height ? i guess late morning / early noon right ?

by the way i have known a guy who was around 187cm (if i remember right he told me he is 187cm but i dont remember well anymore . maybe i am wrong that he told me this . it was 15 years ago . but regardless of that he definitely was around 187cm) who told me he is too tall . he looked lanky / gawky and seemed a little clumsy too

to be honest proportions and aeshtetics wise (both body aeshtetics as well as face and skull) men around 174 - 180cm look the best in my experience . i am in this range myself and am very happy with my proportions and facial aeshtetics (i would like to have a little bit longer legs and arms though) . yeah yeah i know some guys here will think i say this only because i am in this range and will accuse me of coping or whatever . but it is really my experience . especially around 180cm looks best in my experience but as i said before the problem with 180cm is that even though it is a upper average height and even a bit tallish... it can look / feel a bit short in some situations where you are suddenly surrounded by very tall dudes

thats why around 183 - 184cm at night with good proportions and good facial and skull aesthetics is best in my eyes . because at around 184 you have enough height and are a little tall and wont look or feel short EVER unless you are surrounded by nba players lol . like extremely rare situations . i mean most people will look short next to men above 200cm ...thats normal

above ~185cm is not perfect anymore in my eyes . in my experience . because at that point it looks vertically "too long" to be perfect. not sure how to explain it lol . it just seems like the glass is already full around 185 and more than that is a bit too long . but 186 - 191cm range is still phenomenal especially if you can pull it off . i find heights up to around 194cm to be GOOD and up to 203/204cm to be decent . and it is better to be "too tall" than to be below 173-174cm especially below 170cm . i would rather be 6'9 than 5'6 ...100%

avi said on 16/Jun/25
@c-mo 176-177cm said on 15/Jun/25

Yep we all have different opinions and perceive height differently

I think most agree that 6'1-6'2 is most ideal male height
Of course there's some who view 5'10- 5'11 or even 6'5 as ideal

As we said here's more to it than height itself
Proportions and build etc

So 5'10 could be better than 6'2 depending on those other variables

But speaking general assuming one has a decent face and build, 6'1-6'2 is golden range.

5'10 is a decent height
Even 5'9 wasn't horrible
But I just think it's not enough.
To me even at 6'0ish I feel it's not enough
Maybe I pay to much attention to comparing to others and notice tall people but I'm fairly confident that 6'2 would be my "ideal" height

If I was 5'7 possibly even 5'8 I'd definitely consider Leg lengthening
Kinda crazy right lol

avi said on 16/Jun/25
@Kevin 6'0.25 said on 15/Jun/25

Yes I'm basically a weak 6'0
But have used "0.5 lift" (which give like 0.25-0.3 boost) so I'm like 6'0.2 equivalent barefoot let's say when walking around

It could be my perception or as I mentioned to Rob about sidewalk heights and pavement maybe I'm overestimating on har type of terrain
Plus I tend to notice taller ppl more

But either way I don't feel that tall most of the time walking around.
I'm on East Coast
It could be a "feeling" and when next to people I feel are taller by 2-3 inches maybe it's less.

But there are a lot of people 5'11-6'3 it's not that uncommon

If I walk around a mall I see good amount of men 5'11-6'2/6'3

The thing with 6'0 is it's hardly over average
A 5'9.5-5'10 person will be in middle of your forehead so just doesn't feel tall
Maybe it's the area
Funny how we can all perceive things differently!

@Kellan
Agreed! Not sure why anyone would want to be that large
There's a sweet spot and that appears to be 5'11-6'3
With 6'1-6'2 possibly most desirable

Gianni 5' 7 said on 16/Jun/25
Hi Rob,
Considering the camera angle and their footwears, would you say that the two guys who are being interviewed are in the same height range?

Click Here

MatPit said on 16/Jun/25
As a Finnish guy I'd say that depending on proportions, the likelihood that you are perceived as "tall" rather than "tallish" in real life encounters is somethin like this:
182 cm : 5%
183 cm : 15%
184 cm : 20%
185 cm : 40%
186 cm : 55%
187 cm : 75%
188 cm : 90%
189 cm : 99%
I'm not saying this is accurate, just chose numbers based on how I feel it is. So it kind of rapidly changes at the 184cm - 188cm area, I personally take 188cm as the first tall height. In Finland the average young adult man is 180cm (5'11").

I'd say 186-187cm as an evening height is ideal. I think the main thing in ideal height is never to seem short unless it's already obvious to everybody that the height environment is exceptional (some sports teams etc...). 185cm already does that but then again you'd rather seem tall most of the time than just something above average. 188cm is the first height where I've heard some people complain about their tallness, and it's more likely for 188cm to seem a bit too lanky than for 186cm to seem too average. 186-187cm really seems a place where men are least likely to complain about their height.

Kevin said on 16/Jun/25
@Kellan

6'4+ has it's advantages. It's an imposing height and people take you more seriously when you're very tall. Some guys just like being taller than almost everybody. I think at 6'6+ the disadvantages become too much, though.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 16/Jun/25
@ MaskDeMasque 5'9.5

there are many positive things about 5'9 - 5'10

healthy height , taller than majority of women , good height for body proportions and aesthetics , good height for many sports , good height for fighting , one of the best if not best heights for building a muscular physique , cars busses beds clothes everything is comfortable , wont stick out in public . etc. etc.

sure it could be even better and at our heights we will always dream of being a little taller . but our heights are still decent / good tbh

Alex174cm said on 16/Jun/25
Hey Rob,

Is it possible to get a page for NFL legend Barry Sanders? His playing height was recorded as 5'8 173cm.

He measured 172cm 5 ft7 5⁄8 in in the NFL combine Click Here

Here he is with 6'2 1/2 Derek Jeter Click Here

Here he is with Kevin Dillon 5ft 8 ¾ , both wearing same footwear Click Here

Here he is with Marlon Wayans 6ft ½ Click Here

Here he is with Saquon Barkley who measured 183cm/6 foot at the combine Click Here

Based on these photos, do you think his combine measurement of 172cm / 5 ft7 5⁄8 is accurate?

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 16/Jun/25
How about adding stewart lee Rob? Compared with weak 5'6 Herring i think he can look 5'10.5-5'11 range.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 16/Jun/25
I see 5'9 and 5'10 as neutral heights. Neither good or bad. Being one of these heights isn't going to hold you back in life but at the same time it's not gonna do you any favours.

avi said on 15/Jun/25
@Garrett Thompson said on 14/Jun/25

Take a chill pill dude
Lol

It's a hobby
Accusing everyone of autism or mental illness here is really ignorant

Of course some here may be weird or have but a large amount of us are just giving our opinion on height as fun and it's a sort of hobby

No need for the pontification

Kellan said on 15/Jun/25
I don’t get people saying they wish they were 6’4”+. People don’t realize the extent of disadvantages after 6’2”.

Gerald S said on 15/Jun/25
Rob, a woman wakes up at 172.7cm, still holds 172cm at midday, and is 170.8cm last thing at night. She claims 5’8”. What listing might you give her on Celebheights?

chad michaels said on 15/Jun/25
Hello Rob,
How much height do you think these shoes give?
Click Here

Giovannino said on 15/Jun/25
Click Here

rob look at this photo, crazy he has already surpassed his father

c-mo 176-177cm said on 15/Jun/25
@avi

but bro 5'9 and 5'10 are good heights to be honest . especially 5'10

some will accuse me of coping and will say that i say this only because i am between 5'9 and 5'10 but the thing is that because i am this height i can tell you how this height feels with years of experience being the height . it is definitely good . not the perfect height to be (which is something in the 179 - 185 range at night imo as i said . i would say a good proportioned mesomorphic 183-184cm at night with good face and skull aeshtetics is perfection) . but good still

i would say 5'9 flat is a "decent height" and 5'10 is a GOOD height

i mean if anybody disagrees with me thats totally okay . i am just sharing my own thoughts being this height :)

MatPit said on 15/Jun/25
@Garrett Thompson I think when people suggest 1/8 listings it's usually not about claiming to discern such accuracy but more about coming into a compromise when for example someone usually looks x.0 but sometimes (less often) x.5

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 15/Jun/25
@avi

Are you in the US? I'm surprised you only felt average at 6'0. I feel fairly tall when walking around Seattle or Las Vegas in standard 1 inch shoes. Solid tall? Maybe not, but definitely not average. I think universities have a taller than average height because of athletes and socioeconomic factors which is the only place I don't feel tall at a strong 6'. But I don't think the youth in general is any taller than in the 90s/00s.

When I go to airports (one of my favorite places to gauge height) in the US, I'm taller than at least a good 80% of men.

Ziren said on 15/Jun/25
Rob i have a suggestion. Please dont let guys like @Garrett Thompson comment here. It does only harm to this site and its users. Guys like him are better to be banned and ignored.

Ziren said on 15/Jun/25
Click Here , Rob, how tall do you think this left side guy is next to 5'7 listed thai boxer Liam Harrison? He claims to be 194-195cm. Can he look that tall?

Gianni 5' 7 said on 15/Jun/25
Hi Rob,
would you say this is a 5 or a 6 inches gap?

Click Here

Giovannino said on 15/Jun/25
rob is it cautious to say I am 185 cm tall to people if in the morning out of bed with a do-it-yourself measurement the result is extremely close to a weak 187 cm?

Ziren said on 15/Jun/25
At what point does height difference start to be noticeable in your opinion, Rob?

avi said on 14/Jun/25
@Mike190 said on 13/Jun/25

Agreed that it seems 6'2 nowadays isn't the same as it was in past
Obviously now people have gotten taller
Due to nutrition and the additives in food (growth hormones) many of these kids growing larger and wider too at times.

So 6'4 definitely would have a better standout value that 6'2

5'11-6'1 is not that tall anymore.

However when we discuss ideal height I am discussing it in terms of "optimal height " for humans
What height is the "best" for daily living
I agree proportions are definitely a large factor
The 6'10ish guy you mentioned who looked 5'10 ish (average) from afar is interesting.
I was a way a few days and walked around the city (not a largely populated city but enough ppl to get a good height comparison going)
At roughly 6'0 I felt average at best
I saw a good bit of 6'1-6'3 men
A few 6'4-6'5 popped up
Didn't see anyone over 6'6 (I think! Lol)
One older guy (60s) looked about that range while I was sitting down
Didn't look good at all.

Anyway I saw men who from afar looked 5'10-6'0 but were 6'2-6'3 close


It's hard to imagine 6'10 can look 5'10! But I guess possible

However it's not relative. If you are 6'10 and look 5'10 or 6'1 or whatever it doesn't matter. It's still but no means ideal. Period.
6'10 will never be an ideal height as it's not an optimal living height..human body is not meant to be that large
We know for a fact cancer is more prevalent as well as joint, back and knees issues etc
So in my model I factor everything that comes along with the height
At 6'1-6'2 you really won't have issues
However the odds of having longer legs and trunk to the point of starting to wear down the body increase at 6'3+

I do agree that a badly proportion 6'2 (very long legs or very long trunk) vs a more balanced 6'3-6'4 man , the 6'3-6'4 many may be more "ideal" relative to that.
So I suppose it's not as "black and white" as 6'1-6'2 as ideal and that's it

But I guess in MOST cases many agree 6'1-6'2 is ideal
Some will say 5'11-6'1
Some may say 6'2-6'4
Many will not say 5'9-5'10
Or 6'5+

But yes if ones goal is to be basically taller than everyone than obviously 6'5-6'6 would win
But that is not the goal of defining ideal or.optimal height
It's about being tall enough and still being a versatile height and not detrimental to daily living and aging

So its a balance

Garrett Thompson said on 14/Jun/25
And lastly, the lot of you all need to touch grass. This website gets its fair share of crazies, schizos, autists, etc.

Stop underlisting people's heights so much (looking at you lot Canson, viper, jawilder, etc.)

And "Big" Rob, take care of your health. For a guy in his 40s or early 50, feel like running this degenerate autistic site does more harm than good (see Tarif and Greg Lurik). It's unfortunate what people on LooksMax.org have said about Rob and Jenny, but that reflects the degeneracy and obessive stupidity of the average user on here - fighting over millimeters and cringe 1/8 listings. No one can discern a 1/8 listing. Per my email, thompsongchess@gmail.com - the most you can discern is 1/4 if someone edges someone else LOL (that's crazy wording). When in doubt, list someeone higher and then downgrade by quaters as necessary.

I've already posted my email in other comment threads. But if anyone wants to disagree with my opinion and takes, feel free to correspons at thompsongchess@gmail.com

Goodbye everybody. May the schizo vision bless you all! - Garrett Arthur Thompson (self-proclaimed 6'3 / 190 guy)

c-mo 176-177cm said on 14/Jun/25
@adrianposter

i am about 5'9.25 at my low (can even fall slightly below that on harder days) and i live in germany and i dont feel short here nor do people perceive me as short . there are some situations when there are many tall guys around at the same time and in such situations i can feel below average but in general my height feels solid even here in germany . i talked about it a little in my last post here ....scroll a little down to see my post

grizz said on 14/Jun/25
@Aznn, good for you for going to a professional to fix your posture. 1st time I went there I had zero to none expections (fixing my neck pain was all I've asked for). But, lo and behold, not only he fixed my neck pain, he readjusted my vertebraes (that made me stand tall naturally), my brain started working without any setbacks, I felt more positive and confident, my fitness shape was so advanced that I felt like Captain America.
Honestly, I was shocked how much can deteriorated spine and posture destroy your entire life. I feel sorry for not taking the necessary measures during my puberty, my whole life would have been dramatically different now.

ObliviousOblivion said on 14/Jun/25
So the average height for a male nowadays is 5'10? @Rob

Garrett Thompson said on 14/Jun/25
Proper Height Bins in North America for men

Sub 170/5'7 = short
[170,175) / [5'7,5'9) = below average
[175,180) / [5'9,5'11) = average
[180,185) / [5'11,6'1) = above average / tallish (most girls will call you tall at this point, 180-183 guys are more above average and 183-185 guys more tallish)
[185,190) / [6'1,6'3) = tall / solid tall (with men 6'2+ being solid tall, while those in the 6'1-6'2 are still tall)
[190,195) / [6'3,6'5) = very tall
[195,200) / [6'5, 6,7) = giant
200+ / 6'7+ = if you're not in the NBA, you're cooked at this height - sorry Barron Trump

For women, the same bins apply, just subtract roughly 4 inches or 10 cm from each bin. So the start of tall for a woman begins around 5'9-5'10 (even though you'll have 5'7-5'9 women claiming they're tall, they're more above average / tallish)

Com said on 14/Jun/25
Rob, has the average height increased by an inch today? I’m seeing loads of people saying 5ft 10 is the new average

Gianni 5' 7 said on 14/Jun/25
Hi Rob,

How tall would you Say Is the guy in the middle if Rafa Leao is around 6ft2?

Click Here

Emil said on 14/Jun/25
@Andrea

You dug deep on the one haha.
And if she was almost 18 back then, I strongly doubt she has grown more. I always doubted she was over 6 feet

MatPit said on 14/Jun/25
Hi Rob, I was thinking about this height-related phenomenon and wanted to hear your opinion. I've noticed that across different countries with differing average heights people tend to perceive the average to be about 0.5 - 1.0 inches higher than what it actually is, even if we're talking about young adult averages only. I was wondering if this could be because we naturally pay more attention to taller people than shorter? I know that human mind is kind of threat-focused so we remember threatening encounters better than non-threatening ones so maybe we remember better moments when someone dwarfed us than moments when we were dwarfing someone. I feel like this happens both with male and female averages.

adrianposter said on 14/Jun/25
Hey Rob,

Would you say that 5’9 is a little on the shorter side for young western men nowadays?

Aznn said on 14/Jun/25
@Mike190 6'4" is when I had to check my height cause people were constantly commenting on it, I found it strange because I thought i was like 6'2 due to forward head and bad posture, but after I did some physiotherapy and gained back the height the difference was really big, at 6'2 you're solidly tall no doubt but 6'4 is when you can look over men's heads and go even a week without seeing anyone taller than you, even though 6'4 is equally 2 inches away from 6'2 and 6'6, I'd actually consider it closer to 6'6" in terms of perception because it's when you can look over men's heads, feel towering and as you're taller an extra inch makes less of a difference, people also say it depends where you live but genuinely in places like germany or poland i still felt equally as tall, it's also a height where sometimes I subconsciously slouch because if i stand up at my tallest sometimes i feel like i stick out a bit lol

bmb said on 13/Jun/25
Rob, no idea if this has been brought up but may take awhile for me to find it. But what is an average amount of shrinkage you get from first thing you wake up to lunch and dinner hours (say on a lazy day)? I'm thinking ⅝ and ¾ of an inch respectively, but I could be wrong.

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 13/Jun/25
@Mike190

I've seen it happen, but obviously much less often than with 6'4+. One time in college a girl of average height (5'5 or so) said to a guy while we were all waiting in line, "You're so tall, you're what, 6'3?" and he replied "6'2" and he looked like a solid 6'2 guy to me. He was east Asian, so maybe that made his height more noteworthy compared to a 6'2 white guy.

At 6'1 in the US it's just short enough that usually nobody will comment on your height or see you as "the tall guy" (even if they subconsciously acknowledge that you're on the taller side) and I prefer it that way. But of course, I can totally see why many people think 6'2 or even 6'4 is ideal.

grizz said on 13/Jun/25
Mike190
So my point is the ideal height is relative without a doubt. If you base your ideal height on the average proportions associated with each height, then sure it is somewhat indepenent. 6ft1 simply cannot be ideal if you live in the balkans where the average man is 187cm, nor where the average man is 161cm in central america.
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I'm from the Balkans (Croatia) and the average definitely isn't 187 cm, even if only young people were included. That's only correct for men in Makarska, a small 10k coastal city. Everywhere else the average is in 180-185, more closer to the lower end of the range.

And I can assure you, 185-188 cm is a very desirable height even for our tall Balkan girls. Sure, if you ask them about the perfect male height, they'll say 190. But they're not all too crazy about 195+ guys, most of them even prefer an 185 cm guy. What they insist on more than height is having some meat around the bones."What is a man without 100 kg" is a popular saying in our parts.

Andrea said on 13/Jun/25
That Marie Temara girl actually hinted that she got measured under 6' in 2012... Click Here

Sam the 5'11.75 said on 13/Jun/25
Hi Rob

How accurate are average height statistics and height percentiles?. Supposedly in the UK 5'10 is in the 99th percentile for a adult Woman and I just find this so hard to believe. I work in a retail store and I'd say the average being 5'3.5 and 5'10 being 99th percentile just seems wrong to me. Probably every one in 50 Women I see every day are at least 5'10 and would think 99th percentile is more likely 5'10.5.

Thoughts?. I live in the South. Do you think regional variation might explain this?

Gianni 5' 7 said on 13/Jun/25
Hi Rob

How tall would you estimate the shorter guy if Hakimi is 5ft11 flat?

Click Here

Emil said on 13/Jun/25
@Rob

You make a solid point.

I think I've found her old college profile. There it has her height at 6'1, which is believable. Anywhere between 6'0-6'2 is likely what she measures

Click Here

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 13/Jun/25
6ft3 in most countries should be heading into very tall range…..places like The Netherlands it’s a bit more common though so perhaps it’s on the slightly lower-end of tall, their equivalent to what 6ft-6ft1 is in Ireland/UK/USA…..but absolutely never ever outside of tall range

Giovannino said on 13/Jun/25
Hi Rob,
I wanted to share a recent measurement and get your opinion. Exactly 3 hours after waking up, I went to the doctor and they measured me 2–3 times under a stadiometer just to be sure. I checked myself as well, and I was somewhere between 184.5 and 185 cm — depending on posture. In the end, they recorded 185 cm on the medical form.

Since I play tennis, I was curious — if I were a celebrity, based on your way of assessing heights, where would you place me on the tennis players’ page?

Do you think 3 hours after waking up might be too soon?

thanks Rob

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 13/Jun/25
Can you add Tim Robinson, Rob? I watched the Friendship movie yesterday and he wasnt much taller than Paul Rudd. I Think 5'9.5 is a fair listing.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 13/Jun/25
I think 6'3 is start of very tall. Legit 6'3ers like Sacha baron look more than just tall.

Emil said on 13/Jun/25
@Rob

Ever come across the TikTok blogger Marie Temara who claims to be 7'0?

I honestly doubt she's even over 6'0 lol.

Here she is in what looks like 3" heels with Glenny Balls from Barstool Sports - Click Here

And Glenny doesn't look more than 5'5 range next to Floyd Mayweather. Maybe 5'6 on the dot with better posture - Click Here

grizz said on 13/Jun/25
c-mo 176-177cm said on 12/Jun/25
my height chart for non elderly men in the western world would be like this :
164 - 169 = short
170 - 172 = a little short . 172 more "average-ish" than 170 obviously
173 - 174 = below average but not short . maybe slightly so ...173 more so
175 - 180 = average / medium
181 - 182 = above average but not tall . maybe slightly so ....182 more so
183 - 185 = a little tall
186 - 191 = tall
192 - 193 = starting to get to approach the very tall range
194 - 199cm = very tall
200 - 205 = huge
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I'd say your chart is bang on the money.

Mike190 said on 13/Jun/25
6ft2 does not get "how tall are you" at all in my experience. Only maybe from short grandmas or third world immigrants. 6ft4 is where you start to stick out and your height becomes somewhat of an inconvenience, as well as a part of your identity. There are too many 6ft1-3 guys nowadays for 6ft2 to stand out.

I do agree though 6ft2 / 188cm just sounds right, aesthetic and is still a very normal convenient height. My late grandfather was 6ft2 and in the 50s it was a legit standout height. He towered over 95% of people in the photos I've seen of him.

The average North American man born in the 1930's was 173-4cm and the generation born in the 1980's and onwards are 178-9cm. That's a ~2.88% increase. In other words, 6ft2 in the 50's/60's looks the same as 6ft4 these days.

Just think about it, back then 6ft was widely considered the ideal height, whereas 6ft2 was very tall. That's why all the superheros that were created back then where made 6ft 1-3: Captain America, Batman, Superman, etc. If those superheros were created currently they'd all be in the 6ft4-7 range.

These days 6ft2 is generally considered ideal, with 6ft4 being the start of very tall. Although with the current dating culture it seems even 6ft2 is no longer enough for some women.

I also somewhat disagree that the ideal height is not relative. Every human has different proportions. I met this one giant man in the States a few years ago who claimed 7 feet (I think he was a weak 6ft 11), and from a distance I kid you not he looked like he was 5ft10. He had very very good proportions, a massive frame and attractive face. On him his height looked excellent.

I have another 5ft 6 friend who has extremely long legs & arms and a very short torso. In fact we compared wing spans and his was longer than mine (190cm), and he has size 14US feet. From a distance he looks like he should be well over 6ft.

So my point is the ideal height is relative without a doubt. If you base your ideal height on the average proportions associated with each height, then sure it is somewhat indepenent. 6ft1 simply cannot be ideal if you live in the balkans where the average man is 187cm, nor where the average man is 161cm in central america.

In conclusion: I think there are two ideal height ranges nowadays in developed countries.

If you value convenience and don't want to stick out 185-190cm is ideal, but if you want to be able to have your tall height as part of your identity 195-200cm is optimal. 190-195cm is a mix between both.

A good rule of thumb for determining the ideal height where you are is calculatte the ratio between the average man and woman and then multiply that by the average male height.

179cm/165cm = 1.085

179cm x 1.085 = 194cm (6ft4 and change)

c-mo 176-177cm said on 12/Jun/25
my height chart for non elderly men in the western world would be like this :



164 - 169 = short

170 - 172 = a little short . 172 more "average-ish" than 170 obviously

173 - 174 = below average but not short . maybe slightly so ...173 more so

175 - 180 = average / medium

181 - 182 = above average but not tall . maybe slightly so ....182 more so

183 - 185 = a little tall

186 - 191 = tall

192 - 193 = starting to get to approach the very tall range

194 - 199cm = very tall

200 - 205 = huge

Orf 5'9 1/2 barefoot said on 12/Jun/25
Hey Rob can you add the new prime minister of Canada? I personally think he is in the 5’9 range

Progking185 said on 12/Jun/25
@Mike190 I class start of tall as about an inch lower but yeah I get that. And as I mentioned below I think 6'1.5-6'2 is great lol

Aptz said on 12/Jun/25
Rob if the guy on right is 6’6(white guy) how tall you reckon the guy on the left is Click Here think the hair and the fact he is tilting his head up makes him look 6’4 but I reckon he looks around 190cm

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 12/Jun/25
@Progking185

6'1.5-6'2 is an incredible height aesthetically. Classic tall. I think I would still take a flat 6'1 over 6'2, though. Slightly more convenient for everyday life and strikes a good balance between being tall yet not standing out. A 6'2 guy will stand out a bit and start getting the "how tall are you" questions which is annoying IMO.

Gianni 5' 7 said on 12/Jun/25
Hi Rob. Italian football player Sebastian Giovinco Is listed 5 ft3 or 160 cm. How tall would you say is the guy beside him? Do you think they have similar footwears?


Click Here

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 11/Jun/25
When creating height categories it also depends where you live. I used to live in a village and there was a guy that went to the pubs whose nickname was giant. He was like 6'4.5. certainly a very tall guy but if this was in a big town or city he probably wouldn't be known as the giant lol.

rlheight5'11 said on 11/Jun/25
@Rob
What height looks imposing/impressive to you while out and about?

rlheight5'11 said on 11/Jun/25
@Rob
Yeah, London seems pricey these days and the scottish coast probably safer. My city has looked run down ever since the Covid pandemic.

bmb said on 11/Jun/25
Rob, in your opinion, which height should we use, if say we want to calculate BMI. Peak, low, or somewhere in the middle is ok? or if it doesn't matter at all?

Mike190 said on 10/Jun/25
Here are my categories for men in Northern America aged 20-40:


Little person: Less than 4’10

Extremely short: 4’10 - 5’0.5

Very short: 5’1 - 5’3.5

Short: 5’4 - 5’6.5

Below average: 5’7 - 5’9.5

Average: 5’10

Above average: 5’10.5 - 6’1

Tall: 6’1.5 - 6’4

Very tall: 6’4.5 - 6’7

Extremely tall: 6’7.5 - 6’10

Giant: Over 6’10


In my opinion, a guy isn’t truly short unless he’s under 5’7, and isn’t genuinely tall unless he’s over 6’1.


My rankings of the above height ranges from most desirable to least would be:

Tall Very tall Above average Average Below average Extremely tall Giant Short Very short Extremely short Little person

Progking185 said on 10/Jun/25
@Kevin6'0.25 I mainly agree with your chart, I think 6'1.5-6'2 is my "perfect" height, or say around 187 cm. Pretty tall but still kind of within the start of tall range and not standing out much. I've been around there as I'm 6'1.5 or bit over in morning. Legit that height is pretty tall and probably gets called 6'3 or even 6'4 by some hahaha. But I'm close enough at about 6'1 and barely feels like any difference.

Giovannino said on 10/Jun/25
rob a question, a 19 year old boy who wakes up at 7am in the range 186-186.5, in your opinion three/three and a half hours later if he goes to the doctor, so 10/11 am, how much can he measure? I ask you because tomorrow I have a medical visit from the doctor around that time.
thanks a lot Rob

avi said on 9/Jun/25
@c-mo 176-177cm said on 8/Jun/25


Hmmm that's a good point maybe be in a place where average height is more
6'4-6'5 may be suitable IF one wishes to still retain a solid tall position. But then get into being tall just to edge people out not for aesthetics.

But that's a good point
if more men let's say in a place like Holland or Croatia or something are 5'11-6'2 than perhaps 5'8-5'11 like in UK or US then being 6'1-6'2 won't have that effect of being tall.
But as I said it shouldn't matter if certain places 6'1-6'2 is hardly over average.
I think optimal height, imo, is not relative.
No matter where in world 5'11-6'2 zone looks great. I really think that's the optimal range
But as I said golden height is between 6'1-6'2 imo of course can deviate one inch either way IF proportions are good

6'4-6'5 just seems too massive. Even a legit 6'2 is huge

As you point on some people like Manganiello may have a good build for their height (and id rather be him with his build than 5'8 and similar build) but still fact remains at 6'4-6'5 issue smore project to pop up and you lose versatility and grace

Nothing can beat a 5'10-6'1 well built man who is balanced
Building muscle comes easier as well at heights that are closer to average.

As you said proportions are a big factor

So to your answer about being 5'9 better proportioned than 6'2 and not that makes sense because 5'9 and a good build can look damn good vs 6'2 and huge torso or super long legs and lanky
Or as you said about facial attractiveness a HOT 5'9 guy vs 6'1-6'2 and not good face obviously 5'9 with great face will propel them further 6'2



And yes if you are what 5'9.5ish then your 6'2 friend technically won't tower but it will be a large difference as you'd come up to his eyeballs probably if lucky eyebrows.
It probably feels like a large difference but when you see it doesn't look too bad
I haven't seen myself next to anyone that equivalent that be like 6'4.5 almost 6'5 for me. And that's rare to come about and have opportunity to be in picture or by a mirror / glass reflection with them
I had a friend 6'2-6'2.5 max had a pic with him years ago and I looked 2-2.5 shorter
Same footwear.
If he was 2 inches taller I'd be at his eyebrows probably like you are with your friend and I'd say it's a good difference but not a towering difference
Tower to me is 5.5-6 inches need to be



And yes I'm about 183cm - 6'0 flat
I hover between 5'11.8 and 6'0.25

My absolute low may be 5'11.75 but as I was telling Rob I been doing some stretches last 2 years or so hoping to hold 6'0 flat...

It's a decent height but it's not in my view the most optimal

If I was 6'1.5-6'2 I feel like that's what I'd feel most comfortable with
But to someone else they may think 5'11-6'0 is better than 6'2 or even 5'10 is better than 6'1 or whatever.

When I was your height age 16-17 I felt at times even over average. It wasn't like a world of difference when I was 5'9.5-.75 vs 6'0ish maybe because it took a long time for me to get from 5'9.5 to 6'0 into my twenties when I stopped.

So your height is solid. And definitely above average for your ethnicity
And yeah wouldn't worry about your arms or legs.
I too wish I had arms a little longer as they are like 5'9 wingspan
Seems like most my gain after 17-18 was torso
I'd say I'm fairly balanced proportionally. 32 inseam
Legs pretty muscular.

If I grew two inches in my torso I'd probably be considered a short legged 6'2 er ! Lol

What's your wingspan?
Also how tall is your dad and mom?

My dad is 5'9 peak possibly 5'9.2
My mom leak was 5'2 maybe weak 5'2
She's probably 5'1 now

My parental grandfather was supposedly 5'10.5-5'11 range
My maternal grandfather peak under 5'8
And my grandma's and great Grandmas 5'1.5-5'3 zone
I did hear my paternal great grandfather was 6'2ish (so 6'1-6'3 range let's say)
And some great uncles 5'11-6'2
They from war torn Poland

So I guess I can't complain too much...

HackGod10 said on 9/Jun/25
How much height do you think Yeezy slides and foam runners add?

sf181 said on 9/Jun/25
Could Tim Robinson get a page? He's listed 174 cm on IMDB and looks about the same as Paul Rudd in Friendship.

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 9/Jun/25
@Mike190

I'm in the US. I'm basing my height chart off of when I attended a mostly white university about 10 years ago.

Little person: 4'11 and below
Extremely short: 5'0-5'2
Very short: 5'3-5'5
Short: 5'6-5'7
Below average/shortish: 5'8
Low average: 5'9
Average: 5'10
Upper average: 5'11
Above average/tallish: 6'0
Tall: 6'1-6'3
Very tall: 6'4-6'6
Extremely tall: 6'7-6'9
Giant: 6'10+

6'3 and 6'6 are kind of in-between heights that could go in either category but I think there were too many 6'4+ guys at my university for a 6'3 guy to stand out that much. And 6'1 was really the bare minimum to be considered legitimately tall.

As a 6'0 guy, I often felt like I was in purgatory between average and tall while living on campus. Neither here nor there, hence why I gave it its own category. I feel like 5'8 would be a similar gray area kind of height.

rlheight5'11 said on 9/Jun/25
@Rob
I have read the scottish coast is better than Glasgow.

falsehero said on 9/Jun/25
Ron Paul consider any of these people for a page please


Alton Mason - 5’11 (lies 6’2)
Sam Sulek - 5’10
Jesse James West - 5’9.5 (Measured)
Alex Eubanks - ~5’9.5
Bradley Martyn - 6’0 5/8 (lies 6’3)
Togi - 6’0 3/4 - 6’1
Shizzy 6’0 3/4 (lies 6’4)
XQC - 6’0 (proven next to NFL player) (lies 6’2)
Marlon 6’2.5 (claimed 6’6)
Lamine Yamal - ?
Duke Dennis 6’0.5
Hasan 6’2.5 (small head)

Mike190 said on 9/Jun/25
Not sure what happened with my comment there. It's either a formatting issue or I'm being trolled.

labubu said on 9/Jun/25
Big Rob, do you know any ways to raise the height floor? For example, I've heard glucosamine as an option, and/or core strengthening.

I've heard cases of people 'growing' a half inch or so from optimizing posture i.e. yoga, but what do you think?

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 9/Jun/25
@rlheight5'11

Yeah there were a lot of older people for sure. If I walk around the mall I still feel tall but less so and will see more 6'1-6'3 young guys.

On casino floors on the reservations, I feel solid tall range but again it's a lot of older folk.

rlheight5'11 said on 9/Jun/25
@Kevin 6'0.25
I experience that sometimes myself, not as much around the youth though.

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 8/Jun/25
I went shopping at Costco a couple days ago and surprisingly only saw one person taller than me in the 30 minutes or so I was there. Went to a grocery store the next day (granted, I was only there a few minutes) and was tallest person out of maybe a dozen other guys I walked past.

Not the norm for me to see almost nobody than me in public places like that, but I just found it interesting and I think it goes to show that 6ft is still reasonably tall in the US.

bmb said on 8/Jun/25
Rob, would you say from the top of the skull to the eyebrows on average is 4 inches?

Mike190 said on 8/Jun/25
For the in UK/US/CAN/AUS/NZ what would your cutoffs be for little person, extremely short, very short, short, below average, average, high average, tall, very tall, extremely tall, and giant for young men (~20-29 years old)? This is a barefoot late-morning or early afternnon measurement as you would at the doctors office. Mine are as follows:



Little person: 6ft 10

c-mo 176-177cm said on 8/Jun/25
@avi

hmm i personally find 6'5 still good . it is "unnecessarily tall" but still a good height . especially if you live in a tall country . and if you have a heavy frame at 6'5 with a fit body you will look really strong and good . think of someone like joe manganiello . he also has a page here on celebheights

by the way here in our city there is a festival right now and i was nearby today with my friend who is 6'2 and we saw many people and i gave attention to height and compared my height with many men . my height felt very solid . i can say for sure that my height of about 176cm afternoon is not short even here in germany . there are times where my height can feel below average here but in general it is quite a solid height even here

i think my height is about average for my own ethnic group (Kurdish) for a young man .

i also looked at the reflections on windows / doors etc. of my 6'2 and me today and he doesnt tower me or something . he is taller but not as much as making me look short at all . 176-177 is definitely a solid height . just wanted to mention this . i am happy but i would still prefer to be between 179 and 185 afternoon/evening . with my current proportions and body structure ...i am very happy with my proportions and body structure . only my arms are a little too short and i would like to have a little longer legs but other than that i am very happy

you are 183cm evening right ? thats a perfect height . if you have decent proportions it doesnt get better than that to be honest imo


you asked :
"Guess it begs the question would you rather be a well proportioned 5'9 man (balanced legs and torso) or 6'2-6'3 long torso compared to legs, not looking as aesthetic in build?"


i would take to be a well proportioned 5'9 over a not good proportioned 6'2-6'3 . 100% it is not even close . same goes for 5'8 too i think . 5'7 i would have to think about it and i would take a not good proportioned 6'2 over 5'6

i would also take good proportioned 5'10 over good proportioned 6'5 and over and would take good proportioned 5'11 over good proportioned 6'3 and over . and maybe even over 6'2 but unsure on that

Matt N said on 8/Jun/25
My eye level for much of the day fluctuates around the 5’5.5” mark (maybe 5’5 5/8” or so 1-2 hours of out of bed and 5’5 3/8” by the afternoon. By the evening, it is no lower than 5’5.25”). Straight out of bed, my eye level does not exceed 5’6”, and is maybe even a fraction below (5’5 7/8” or so, perhaps 5’5.75” at very lowest?).

The tip of my nose is around 5’4” or fractionally below (perhaps between 5’3.75” and 5’4”) for the bulk of the day, my chin level sits at around 5’1” (although I’m less sure on this one), and my fringe/hairline is around 5’8.5” or fractionally below (slightly above 5’8”, but definitely below 5’9”).

What sort of height range seems plausible for me (I’m male, if it’s relevant) based on these proportions?

Unt0ld said on 8/Jun/25
I believe Sam Sulek is at least 5'9-10 range with potential for over 5'10.

With Arnold Click Here
Seemingly eye level with 5'9.5 measured Jesse James West Click Here
Has at least an inch on Jay Cutler Click Here

Also it's important to note if you watch clips like this that Sam wears super thin sneakers most of the time (I believe this is the same day he met Jesse too) Click Here

What do you think Rob? Potential he could be 5'10?

Wolfy said on 8/Jun/25
Hey @Rob i have to ask if i shoud face a digital stadiometer front or should i turn my back for a better measuerment?
I am around 194 cm when i face front but when i measure from behind i am 189
And i am 193-194 cm

avi said on 8/Jun/25
@Slim1.74m said on 7/Jun/25
@Rob could I recommend pages for Dwight Eisenhower & Harry Truman.

I agree with that!
Both very pivotal presidents

Both a big part of WW2 success as well.


Truman was not 5'9
5'8 seems more likely

Eisenhower I think was 5'10.25-5'10.5 until age 60s or so
With Nixon looked almost same and Nixon was 5'10.5

With Kennedy thought it was 1.5-2 inches shorter but he was in his 70s maybe was down to 5'9.5

5'11james said on 8/Jun/25
Rob, how tall do you think the late Japanese actor Ken Takakura was in his peak? He appeared in films outside of Japan such as “Ridley Scott’s Black Rain” (1989), and “Mr. Baseball” (1992).

He allegedly was 5’11, he’s been listed as that height everywhere on the internet. Even on his Wikipedia page.

Here’s a picture of him when he was in his prime, he gives me an impression that he was in the 5’10-5’11 range. And I don’t think he’d be the type of person to lie about his height if he was questioned.

Click Here

Giovannino said on 8/Jun/25
Hi Rob, how are you? I wanted to ask you something. A friend of mine told me that after 10 hours of restorative sleep, he quickly went to the wall and measured himself using an object on his head, being careful to do it properly. He said that after several measurements to make sure it was accurate, he came out at 6 ft 1 1/4.
After 5–6 hours, though, he drops to 6 ft 1/2.

He asked me: do you think it's accurate to say he's 184 cm in metric, or would it be better to tell people 185 cm?
Thanks so much, Rob, and sorry to bother you.

falsehero said on 7/Jun/25
Hello rob please make a page for these two people

Sean O'Malley

Sam Sulek

Slim1.74m said on 7/Jun/25
@Rob could I recommend pages for Dwight Eisenhower & Harry Truman.

avi said on 7/Jun/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

I come and go on this site
Things get busy
Hope you're doing ok


Yeah I totally agree proportions can be just as important

I really think 6'5 or 6'8 no matter it's just not good heights
It's too large and abnormal for every day living
Maybe if make money from it like basketball and volleyball

And to your point most men those ranges are going to have some facial issues
Or lanky or elongated looking.

There are well built 6'4-6'6 guys I've of seen (rarely) but to be anything in the optimal height range nah it's too much IMO

I'd rather be 6'5 than 5'5 or 5'7 or something though

184-185cm definitely good heights but I think 6'2 is still good
Getting past 6'2 or 188cm area into the 190s cm feel it's not as ideal

I did not see the height for vitruvian thought it was modeled after proportions where did you see it was 5'11 specifically?


But It's not the first time I heard 5'11 as the most aesthetic height
There was some study where 5'11 for man and 5'6 for woman was most optimal height so maybe there's something to that
It's definitely a solid height
But more definitely isn't always better
But if I had to choose right now what height I'd be probably choose 6'1.5 maybe 6'2

It's funny because I wouldn't look much taller probably especially if height in torso

Some people I've seen 6'2-6'4 range sometimes they get the height in the torso more and they don't look that tall

Guess it begs the question would you rather be a well proportioned 5'9 man (balanced legs and torso) or 6'2-6'3 long torso compared to legs, not looking as aesthetic in build?

rlheight5'11 said on 7/Jun/25
5’11” is a good height for men but it’s not all that tbh, still tall enough to look kind of tall until the taller guys come around. Height doesn’t mean strength, I think some want to be well over 6’ to have this super imposing look, it’s not my thing.

Chris Paul said on 7/Jun/25
Hey Rob,
How tall does UFC fighter Alexander Volkov look with Brian Shaw, Eddie Hall, and Shavkat Rakhmonov
Click Here
Click Here

Mike190 said on 7/Jun/25
Rob, in the spirit of the NHL Stanley Cup Finals could you please add some hockey players? I think the GOAT Wayne Gretsky, and the current best player Connor McDavid should be the first on the list.

Gretsky was listed at 6ft, but is allegedly 5ft 11 barefoot.

Here he is with Reagan 1982: Click Here

and here with Trump in 2024: Click Here

McDavid is listed 6ft 1 and I think he looks just under it.

With 6ft 4.5 listed Milos Raonic in 2016: Click Here

and here with Gretsky himself in 2023 who has probably shrunk a fraction in his 60s: Click Here

Tallishguy said on 7/Jun/25
Hi Rob. I’m now 22, turning 23 in 2 months. Through puberty I was not one of the guys with sudden big growth spurts, instead I was growing slowly and steadily. I started measuring myself every year from like 19 to now and every year there were micro gains in height like halfs of centimeter. So when I saw that I was expecting same every year. So now I want to ask you - would it be realistic for me to accept my present height as my final adult height and not expect more?​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Yongzhong26 said on 7/Jun/25
Hi Rob

How tall would you say Jean-Jacques Burnel from The Stranglers is?

rlheight5'11 said on 7/Jun/25
@Rob
I would prefer to move to a quiet town rather than live in the city. From research, some towns have surprisingly handy shops and cafes, even takeaways.

Anon 184.5 said on 6/Jun/25
Hey Rob, great to see the comments back on. Hope all is well. I’m interested casually in the bodybuilding scene and two up and comers I’d like to see listed would be Urs Kalecinski and Sam Sulek. I have heard Urs (German) claim “5’11” and a quarter” in a youtube video. I think Sam has claimed 5’11”. He looks a little shorter than Urs. Recently I discovered threads online suggesting Sam was as short as 5’8 to 5’9 so I wanted to hear your expert opinion. Thanks - A

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 6/Jun/25
There's a lot of people on here and in general that would rather be super tall than short. Give me 5'6 or 5'7 anyday over 6'8 or 6'9. At an average of 5'9.5ish though id rather be extremely tall than extremely short, I'd rather be 6'7 than 5'0.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 5/Jun/25
@avi

hi mate . hope you are well too

in my opinion 6'5 is still a pretty good height . not ideal but still good . i even find up to 6'8 decent if you can pull it off . and it is better than being short for sure

in my experience 5'11 - 180cm looks actually the best as i said often before . it is the most aesthetic height and i think there is a reason why the vitruvian man is 180cm

however the problem with 180cm as i said is that when very tall men are around you will look a bit short next to them . but i would still count 179-180cm as an ideal height

but IF you have good proportions and a good build and good facial / skull aeshtetics then the ULTIMATE height is around 184-185cm . nothing beats a harmonic looking 184-185cm

so for me the ideal range is something like 179 - 185 at nighttime

186 - 191 is also phenomenal if you can pull it off . but a good proportioned and good looking 175cm is better than a taller height with bad proportions and not so good looks

to make it simple i would list height like this : (assumed that the proportions and face is good at every height)



all night heights :

172cm = meh . not (really) bad but slightly short

175cm = decent height

178cm = good height

181cm = very good height

184cm = perfect height

Gerald S said on 5/Jun/25
Rob, what’s your estimate on Ginger Baker’s peak?

Has been described as 6’4” in places but from what I’ve seen, 6’2” or less seems more arguable.

grizz said on 5/Jun/25
@Rob, could measurement after such conditions be considered as my absolute lowest height: after 1 hour of walking, 50 min of moderate exercising, 2 hours of moderate housework?

sf181 said on 4/Jun/25
Tim Heidecker is worth a page. Listed 6' but maybe more like 5'11?

avi said on 4/Jun/25
@Mike190

Mike, no 6'1-6'5 is too broad and high a range

5'11-6'2 as per my other comment

6'3-6'4 (legit) is fairly large and will stick out a lot
Can't be ideal

Male models are 5'11-6'3 generally.

Agreed clothes fit for 6'1-6'2
6'3 may be pushing it
But actually 5'9-6'3 is VERY easy to find clothes
At ~6'0 I have no issues
32 inseam generally is what I take
Large or medium shirts depending on brand
Since my wingspan less than height a bit sometimes they make sleeves too long on some coats or jackets


You speak of height of models but it's not height only it's also proportion, bones,build, obviously face

To c-mo point there is a negative relationship (to a certain degree) between height and facial aesthetic
sometimes larger men have a face that can seem slightly elongated or "acromelagic "
Perhaps due to excess growth hormone release during puberty

So it's not black and white

But 6'4 plus definitely too much for ideal model


@c-mo 176-177cm said on 24/May/25

200-205 cm (legit) is HUGE
Can look freaky past 6'4-6'5 depending on proportions and build of person.

Other issues come up past 6'4 especially more prominent as one nears 6'10-7'0

Back, joint, knees etc are part of issue but cancer risk, heart pump ability
Blood clots etc
Another reason why 5'11-6'2 would be highest I'd say

avi said on 4/Jun/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

How you've been well.

I agree that ideal range is probably 5'11 at least
So 181cm maybe solid 5'11
185 is barely 6'1

I think your range needs to bump to 187cm

So 181-187cm
That's basically 5'11 to weak 6'2
I do agree once get over a certain height the chances or facial aesthetic decreases as well as proportions issues

It's hard to pick ONE height as ideal

Like I can't say that 6'1.5 is optimal height in ALL circumstances
Though I believe it is probably in this day in age

But a range is more realistic because it's not just height it's the proportions, weight, body muscle mass, bone structure etc

But 5'11-6'2 seems a good range

I really fail to see how 6'3-6'5 zone can be ideal these "gym bros" are out of touch
I see no circumstance where 6'4-6'5 is desirable even in Holland.
It's still too large for the human body.

5'10 is a decent height and your height is average
You may want to be a bit over 180cm but as someone who is 183cm ish it's good but it's not THAT much different
A lot of men are eye to eye with me
And still a good bit 2-3 inches

So your point about the 191 or 193cm + dwarfing at 180cm is a good point
Even 183cm someone 193cm is about 4 inches taller and I feel quite small
Feel smaller than it probably looks

But the goal I don't think is to just be taller so no one is taller than you
That is not necessarily a good thing
Objective to "height mog" or something.

But that's why I think 186m or 187cm is a height where you have to be over 6'5 to really make someone feel really small
A classic 6'1 may be the best as it's versatile and not overly tall
Facial features most likely not stretched by excess growth hormone/ testosterone effects
Those saying 6'3-6'5 say it because objective is just primitive instinct to be taller than most and not thinking of the factors like proportion and none construction etc
Which also come into play


Anyway that's my view on it

simlest12 said on 4/Jun/25
Thanks for the insight rob, I'll claim about 5'10 or 177 from now. Wanted to ask if you know anything about how to retain morning height - would yoga, stretching, and glucosamine help me? I want to not dip below 177 at night, and do have a bit of anterior pelvic tilt when I stand straight - working on improving my core and posture as of late. I've searched online and glucosamine seems to be tossed around as an option to retain more morning height.

avi said on 4/Jun/25
@Rob

Should Olivier Rioux who is worlds tallest teen severe a page?
Claims 7'9

Saw him next to Mr. Beast on Nicholsons son page
I think 7'7-7'7.5 makes Sense
If 7'9 in basketball ball shoes which give 1.5-1.7 inches if imagine

rlheight5'11 said on 4/Jun/25
@Rob
That’s fair, considering you’re just outside gsw.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 3/Jun/25
I think nathan fielder is worth a add Rob, he's become more welcome known in recent years. His 5'11 claim could be earlier in the day in shoes. I think 5'9.75 is a good shout.

simlest12 said on 3/Jun/25
Hey Rob,

I am a bit confused on what height I should claim. I've been measured with a stadiometer at the doctor's around 45mins after waking at 178.6cm, but with a measuring tape and home measurements either by myself or others I am getting around 176cm or 176.5cm at night before bed. This confuses me because my eye level is around 166cm at night, and I thought that the eye level is typically 4.5 inches shorter than the top of head.

Does this mean I am 179cm in the morning right out of bed, and what height can I claim? Is 178cm a fair claim or would 177 be more appropriate?

bmb said on 3/Jun/25
Rob, would you say about 5ft 5 would be a typical eye level for my height?

Tallishguy said on 2/Jun/25
@Mike190

I heard that he used a invention table for some time before that measurement, so he somehow temporarily increased his height. So in usual life he is never as tall as what was measured.

Drewy said on 2/Jun/25
Hey rob, what celebrities would I be looking eye to eye with having a 171 cm eye level at my morning height of 184 cm and having an eye level of 170 cm during my evening low- my height at my evening low is 182.5 cm.

Giovannino said on 2/Jun/25
Click Here



Hi Rob, do you think the guy in the middle could really be 187 cm tall like Google says? I’d be curious to know what height you’d estimate for him just by looking at him. Thanks a lot for your time, Rob.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 2/Jun/25
@sf181

Could be an in shoe claim or a lie. I think he looks a weak 5'10 on Nathan for you. I think he's my height or a tad taller at 5'9.75 but I'm not buying full 5'10 let alone 5'11.

Mike190 said on 1/Jun/25
@Tallishguy

Chris Bumstead was measured 6'1 & 3/8ths (rounded to 6'1.5) at Mr. Olympia 2024. I think it was an early morning measurement personally and he's 6'0.5 but can look 6 foot flat bc of his posture and physique.

Gorgoroid said on 1/Jun/25
Hi Rob, i wake up at around 178, spend most of the day around 176.6-176.8 and i’m 176cm flat at the lowest after standing and sitting for 8+ hours. Is weak 5’10” a fair claim?

tinnho said on 1/Jun/25
Rob, a guy who wakes up at 1:12 PM after an 11-hour sleep, has lunch and then, one hour later at 2:12 PM, measures himself against a wall using an object on top his head. With excellent posture, he measures 185.8 cm.
According to your website, what height would most likely be listed for him?
What is the most probable height he would get?

Thanks a lot!

Chris Paul said on 31/May/25
Same guys here at 1:00:36. How much is the difference?
Click Here

Chris Paul said on 31/May/25
Hey Rob,
What would you say is the height difference between both guy at 1:14:50
Click Here

sf181 said on 31/May/25
How about Nathan Fielder? Claims 5'11" here: Click Here

TL said on 31/May/25
hey Rob how tall do you think Grian Chatten is from Fontaines D.C.?

Bo Chow said on 31/May/25
Hi Rob!

Could you add Young Mazino? Starred in Beef and The Last of Us.

Click Here

He is listed as 6ft and 174 pounds (probably heavier now, he bulked up for his more recent roles), and he can easily look what his Resume claims next to Steven Yeun, and Gabriel Luna, the later of whom is close to his height, but Young looks taller still.

bmb said on 31/May/25
@Rob What term fits if say they don't fall much under the half integer? Does a solid x and a half work?

rlheight5'11 said on 31/May/25
@Rob
Why don’t you plan to live there? You could always move to a seasidey town.

grizz said on 30/May/25
I second the idea for adding Cro Cop and Fedor.

Also, Bryan Johnson, then man who wants to live forever, is getting increasingly popular. There are a couple of pictures of him with Dana White and other celebrities for height reference.

rlheight5'11 said on 29/May/25
Hopefully we see Bobby and sandy post again. They were here before me .

Tallishguy said on 29/May/25
Rob can you make a page for a Canadian bodybuilder Chris Bumstead, he is well known and has a few videos where he is measured taller than his claim and what people guess him. Also you can add some mma Pride legends like Mirko cro-cop Filipovic and Fedor Emalianenko, they also have false heights on web.

rlheight5'11 said on 29/May/25
@Rob
I would prefer quieter shopping hours too, I live with parents.
I’m not a big fan of queues and kids running around the shops.
And …You live in a quite quiet town, maybe settled down town?

tinnho said on 29/May/25
Hi Rob, i hope you're doing well.

I just wanted to ask a quick question.Let's say a very famous celebrity claims to be 184.35 cm tall, and they measured themselves late in the day(7:46 PM), after having been awake since 7:10 AM. Based on how you evaluate heights, how tall would you list someone who measured 184.35 cm at that time of the day? Would you round them to 6'0.5", 6'0.25", or list them as a weak 6'1"?

Thanks for your time and all the work you do!

James B 172cm said on 29/May/25
Rob on the UK is it rare for legit 6'4 guys to claim 6ft5?

Tangman said on 28/May/25
Rob, in your honest opinion, what do you think is the actually average height for a male in the US? wiki says 5'9 but i wonder if it would be shorter considering most measurements are in the morning

Ziren said on 28/May/25
Hey Rob. Would you mind adding the MMA fighter Tom Aspinall to your page sometime? Also how tall do you think he is? I think 6'3.75-6'4 maybe..

Aznn said on 28/May/25
Hey rob, is an eyelevel of 180.5-181 typical for a 6'4 guy?

falsehero said on 27/May/25
Rob please add XQC who is a solid 6ft to 6ft flat. here he is with 6ft 1/8th measured football player

Click Here

Yongzhong26 said on 27/May/25
Hi Rob

I measured 172cm flat yesterday at 4pm (been up for quite a while). Am I too low to claim 5’8?

rlheight5'11 said on 27/May/25
@Rob
Good old routine , I kinda have a routine myself but I don’t schedule it. You go to the shops at the quietest time of the day. Is your town busy during the day? Out of curiosity.

MD said on 26/May/25
@Rob,

How tall do you think the main cast of the new The Librarians series are? The men look averagish-to-short, and the women look above average, to me.

Click Here

Bluey Robinson looks rather short. Here he is with Liam Payne:

Click Here

And Labrinth:

Click Here

Though on the show, he can almost come off as average height. Which means that that is probably the max for Callum McGowan.

Caleb 5'10.25"/178.7cm said on 26/May/25
@Philip Z and Editor Rob

I doubt Caitlin Clark is taller than I am.

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 26/May/25
@viper

Yeah, I can agree with 5'9 being the average, maybe 5'9.25. But at my workplace everybody is tall AF for some reason so I don't even feel tall there. We have two women who are 6' and a bunch of 6'2-6'4 guys.

If I walk around some place like a fairground, mall or an airport I feel comfortably above average like 85 percentile.

Gav16 said on 26/May/25
Hey Rob, I'm just curious, has one (or more?) of the celebrities you've listed ever contacted you, or tried to because of their listing on here?

Yongzhong26 said on 26/May/25
Hi Rob

What would you say British rapper Central Cee height is? Online it is listed as anything between 5’6 to 6 feet. Will be good to have your verdict on it

Canson said on 26/May/25
@Editor Rob: another example is Julius Randle. He was listed 6’9 when he came into the league and dropped to 6’8 in 2019 when they remeasured. He was listed 6’8 from 19 until 24 when he was traded to Minnesota. He measured 6’7.75 at combine and now that he was traded to Minnesota from New York they list hjm at 6’9 again. Randle next to Kobe was at most 3” taller than him so he definitely didn’t grow between last yr and this yr at 30 something. What it is is that the nba is relaxed on the measurements. There is no consistency. Some teams list with shoes on. Look at Bradley Beal and Devin booker snd KD

Kd measured 6’9.5 with the nets and was listed 6’10 through his first season in phoenix. When Monty Williams left and Vogel came as coach they bumped him to 6’11”

Bradley Beal was listed 6’3 in 2019 and admitted he’s that. He was bumped to 6’4 at some point

Booker measured 6’4.5 and was listed 6’5 in 2019. He’s back up to 6’6 now

Shai is lanky so he looks taller than he is at times. He is no taller than Jalen Williams tho at 6’4.5”

Canson said on 26/May/25
@Editor Rob: he didn’t grow. He called Jalen Williams who measured the same as he did 6’4”. He said “our height”. shai looks same physically as Michael Jordan did just a lot thinner. In 2019 when they remeasurrd everyone some players didn’t change. Look at harden and Westbrook and Lebron got taller. Shai looks what he measured as that is likely near a low for him. With Williams and SGA it is touch and go. At times SGA can look taller but Williams does in other pics

Click Here

Gianni 5' 7 said on 26/May/25
Hi Rob,
If Bonucci is around 188 cm, how tall might be the guy beside? Thank you very much

Click Here

Click Here

5'11james said on 26/May/25
Rob, would you please give Mike Shinoda from Linkin Park a page?
I think he’s anywhere between 179.5-181.

He looked around an inch taller than 177.2-178.5 Chester Bennington.
Click Here

Gianni 5' 7 said on 26/May/25
@Mike 190
Talking about Italy, I'm quite sure that the average height of the young generation (18-25 y.o) is no more than 5 ft9.5. If the average was over 5ft 10, we should have had more guys who are 6 ft and taller than 5ft8 and under. But it's the opposite: young men who are 5ft8 and shorter are still MORE common than 6 footers. How many young guys are 6ft and taller? I'd say one out of five, and I'm being generous. How many are 5 ft8 and shorter? From what I've seen I'd bet they are very close to 30th percentile. At 5 ft7 (170 cm afternoon height) I still find that I'm around 20th percentile when I'm among young crowds (One out of five is shorter than me). And I'm talking about NORTH Italy, where the population is taller

falsehero said on 26/May/25
Add streamer XQC. He is around 6ft exactly. Here he is with a NFL player who measured 72.13 inches.

Click Here

Mike190 said on 26/May/25
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5

Fun question, both are somewhat famous people actually. Tallest male that I've ever seen was Olivier Rioux in an airport just a few months ago who claims 7ft 9 in shoes. I think he's somewhere between 7ft 6 and 7ft 7 barefoot. Tallest female was Ekaterinia Lisina in a hotel elevator a few years ago, and she's a weak 6ft 9 as listed.

If I go to the biggest mall in my city and walk around all day I will normally see at least one woman over 190cm and man over 205cm.

falsehero said on 25/May/25
Hello rob. Im happy to see you return.

Take a look at alton mason. He is a model who I believe is 5'11 at max but he is listed aat 6'2.

Here he is with 6ft jordan barrett

Click Here

Here he is wearing giant boots with 6ft austin butler

Click Here

He also is always wearing heels.

Mike190 said on 25/May/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

Just curious what part of the world do you live? In my country the average young male is ~179cm (barefoot measured, not self reported).

Breaking down the statistics roughly:

-3SD (0.2 Percentile): 157cm / 5'1.75"

-2SD (2.3 Percentile): 164cm / 5'4.5"

-1SD (15.9 Percentile): 172cm / 5'7.75"

0SD (50.0 Percentile): 179cm / 5'10.5"

+1SD (84.1 Percentile): 186cm / 6'1.25"

+2SD (97.7 Percentile): 194cm / 6'4.5"

+3SD (99.8 Percentile): 201cm / 6'7"


In my view, nothing less than +1SD can be considered "tall", therefore it cannot be considered optimal. Like you, I agree anything beyond +3SD is too much, however it's still better than being -1SD or shorter. As a man in his 20s, +1SD seems to be the average height in nightclubs. I encounter more men in the +2SD range at parties, than men in the -1SD range. Of course this is not representative of the true average, given the fact that taller men tend to go out more because they have a much higher chance of sucess than their shorter counterparts. But still, this shows just how important height is in this day and age.

I have a rock solid 6'6" / 200cm friend (claims 6'8"), who is skinny fat, with an average face, is not particularily confident or outgoing, yet when we go clubbing he gets approached by women regularily just based off his height alone. He sticks out and women are drawn to him immediately, whereas I completely blend in the crowd and go unnoticed at 6'2".

So all in all I think +1SD - +3SD is the ideal zone to be for your respective country, with +2SD probably being the sweetspot. Less than +1SD is not tall, and more than +3SD is too tall.

Kevin said on 25/May/25
@LB

That's a lot of height to lose so quickly. I'm only 160lbs and about 185.7cm immediately out of bed. After 2 hours being awake I'm usually 184.5cm. If I'm working and on my feet all day I can hit my normal low of 183.5cm after about 7 hours. 183.2cm I can sometimes hit at an extreme low if it's an especially strenuous day. If I'm just lounging around the house on my day off I can still hold the full 184cm at bedtime.

Purely anecdotal, but my dad used to be 6' in his youth and nowadays at age 62 looks like he's about 5'9. He is 300lbs. Not sure if he's actually lost 3 inches of height or if it is partly due to bad posture because of his weight. Either way, I'm guessing being overweight is probably not great for height loss because of the extra stress on the spine.

viper said on 25/May/25
adrianposter said on 25/May/25
I feel like nowadays, 5’9 isn’t really the “average” height anymore especially among young men. I’d say it skews more towards 5’10-5’11 now.


It's definitely the opposite from what I see whenever I go to University of Maryland sporting events. I see more 5-5-5-6 white students than ever.

Average looks 5-9 to me

Kevin said on 25/May/25
@c-mo

Not often in the US. On my last trip to Las Vegas I saw only one guy who looked 6'7 or 6'8. He wasn't skinny. Medium build and well proportioned, in fact. I also saw two women taller than me who I would've guessed to be 6'1-6'1.5 and 6'3 respectively. Obviously Las Vegas is a crowded tourist destination and I spent several days there walking around the strip, so I think it's safe to say a genuine 6'7+ is pretty rare.

Canson said on 25/May/25
@Editor Rob: how about an add for Shia Gilgeous Alexander? Listed 6’6 but measured 6’4.5 at combine and 6’5 at Kentucky. Looks 6’4.5” most of time

Click Here

Chris Paul said on 25/May/25
Hey Rob, how tall do you think WNBA player Cameron Brink is she’s currently loses at 6’4 and some think she could be a lil higher. Hopefully gets a page soon,

With Jimmy Butler:
Click Here

With Lonzo Ball:
Click Here

Philip Z said on 25/May/25
Rob, would you mind adding a page for Jeff Nippard? Dude gets looked up a lot.

Here he is next to 6ft 0.75 Larry Wheels: Click Here

Both in socks and standing upright, so doesn't get better than that. He's usually described anywhere between 5ft 6 and 5ft 3, but something like 5ft 2.5 is probably closest to what Nippard actually measures.

adrianposter said on 25/May/25
I feel like nowadays, 5’9 isn’t really the “average” height anymore especially among young men. I’d say it skews more towards 5’10-5’11 now.

rlheight5'11 said on 25/May/25
@Rob
Do you still stick to your old routine ? Getting up at 5am to work on celebheights? Since allowing comments back. I use my phone earlier these days but often find myself falling asleep earlier at night.

Philip Z said on 24/May/25
@Paul NS (6ft 0.5)

I wouldn't be surprised if Letterman is down to 6ft flat by now. If so, Clark's looking at most 5ft 10 there. I think anywhere in the 5ft9-10 zone is where she'd end up, and that range would also track with how she stacks up next to Angel Reese (6ft 3), for instance.

LB said on 24/May/25
How quickly does everyone here fall to their low height?

Measuring recently straight out of bed I hit 186-186.2cm but within a couple of hours I’m already down to 183.5, and that’s where I usually end the day give or take a few mm. Do you think being over 300lbs and having a few posture issues (hyperlordosis) is contributing to how rapidly I hit my low?

c-mo 176-177cm said on 24/May/25
today there was a guy in the supermarket who was above 200cm . probably like 205cm . who knows maybe even a little more like 209 - 210 but he was for sure not below 200cm . my guess is 205cm . he was VERY VERY tall

and he was very slim and had a narrow build . it really didnt look good at all . he looked odd

how often do you see men above 200cm ? here in germany it is not all that rare to see them to be honest . not long ago there was another guy i saw in another supermarket who was around 203cm or so too

such very tall heights make you stand out a little . like it is like "dude where the f*** is your head"

as if their head is so much up in the sky that they are in a different place from other people lol

Cooper Clarke said on 24/May/25
Can Anesongib get a listing on here please Rob? He's clearly about 5’8 range as he's claimed 5’8, has measured 5’8 before, and looks roughly 5’8.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 24/May/25
I have a question for Rob and for everyone here, what's the tallest male and female you've ever seen? Tallest guy I've seen was my old college mate who was 6'9 and the tallest girl ive seen was in the high street last year, I reckon she was close to 6'3, prob 6'2.5-6'2.75 range.

joec193 said on 23/May/25
@Rob How tall does this guy on Kill Tony look next to the tape measure?

Click Here

montana16 said on 23/May/25
Rob how tall would you say the streamer jay cinco is
theres pics of him next to kai cenat on his instagram

Paul NS (6ft 0.5) said on 23/May/25
@Philip Z

I can believe Clark at under 5ft 11. With David Letterman, who isn't much over 6ft today: Click Here Click Here (crappy video: Click Here

rlheight5'11 said on 23/May/25
@5'11james
I’m that height 6 hours of bed and 181.5 on a good day.

Okidoki said on 22/May/25
@Rob Hi, how are you. According to sone stats, the average for 19+ is around 178-181 with around 177 cm somewhat less etc though.

Does that mean most in the West are around this though?

Wolfy said on 22/May/25
Rob should a person claim their morning or evening height? I am about 194.5 cm in the morning, what height should i claim?
Thanks

Anp said on 22/May/25
@Phillip Z; Looks sub 5ft 10 with Aaron there

James B 172cm said on 22/May/25
I had a friend once who was 6ft4.5-6ft5 and he was certainly not gigantic just a tall lanky guy.

Philip Z said on 21/May/25
Rob, any guess on Caitlin Clark? Listed at 6 ft, but seeing her next to 6ft 7 Aaron Judge, that figure doesn't really add up: Click Here

American guy said on 21/May/25
Rob I had a doctor appointment today at 10am and woke up at 7 am and measured 173 cm. Can I claim 5’8?

Bo Chow said on 21/May/25
Greetings again, Rob!

To add to Tenoch Huerta (Mejía), someone now edited his height on IMDb to now display as 6’ flat.

Also, looking back at him and Simu Liu’s pics, he is actually noticeably taller than him, and is even slouching a bit to try to close that distance!

I’d say somewhere between 5’11 and 6’0 would fit Tenoch, where exactly in that range? I honestly cannot tell haha.

Thanks again!

Bo Chow said on 21/May/25
Greetings, Rob!

Any chance you could take a look at and add Tenoch Huerta (Mejía)?

Namor from the MCU and one of the lead actors in Narcos: Mexico (and has a prolific career in Mexican cinema and television in general)

Someone on IMDb has been editing his height between 5’7.75, 5’9 flat, and 5’10.75, with that last listing being the most likely.

There are several pictures out there of him standing next to 5’10.5 Simu Liu both in equal footwear, and Simu standing higher on an uneven runway, and Tenoch still manages to edge him out by an iota.

Thank you!

Gav16 said on 20/May/25
Hello sir,

Just wondering, what time of day do you believe is most accurate to measure your height for comparison to the average? Late morning, afternoon, evening? If I'm not wrong, I'm assuming it's from clinical data, so probably the range of afternoon about when most get their appointments?

Chris Paul said on 19/May/25
Hey Rob,
What would you say is the height difference here?
Click Here

serry said on 19/May/25
Rob on your sneakers page I noticed you don't have sneaker height for Nike Air Max Excee. I always considered myself 6'4" but when I went hospital I was measured just over 196cm (6'5") wearing the Excee (this was around 2pm and was awake for about 7 hours). The sneaker height seems just over an inch so maybe I'm wrong!

Gianni 5' 7 said on 19/May/25
Hi Rob,
Ant thought about italian legendary fashion designer Giorgio Armani? He's listed 5'8. Being 90 years old he has certainly lost some inches, but I doubt he was even near 5'8 back in the days..

Maudslay said on 18/May/25
Steven "Destiny" Bonnell II was measured and confirmed to be 5'8 on camera, so maybe you add him, since you have other internet political commentators such as Cenk, Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Crowder, John Oliver, and so on.

BZ said on 18/May/25
Hi rob, right out of bed I measure 194cm. And before sleeping I measure 191cm. Should I claim 6’3 or 6’4?

Hans fikkelden said on 18/May/25
Big rob so if I measure my self at 6'2¾ when I Wake Up And 6'1⅞ Before Bed How Tall Would I Be By Lunch

Gav16 said on 17/May/25
Rob,

Not sure if you'd have any knowledge on this, but would you say height is a bigger factor for attractiveness in the USA compared to Europe, or are they relatively similar? I seem to see a lot more talk of height here in my country (America) compared to most other regions.

Tallishguy said on 17/May/25
Hello Rob, nice to see you again.
I measured myself today with a can method after being awake for 15 hours straight at 183.7- 183.8cm. I had active day, went to grocery shopping immediately after i woke up, did the housework and spent several hours sitting and studying for exams. At night i went outside for training and after that a couple of hours more od sitting. So I was either sitting or on my feet the whole day.
Recently I had a medical check-up where the nurse measured me at 185.3cm using a stadiometer, it was noon and i woke up at 9.
Im wondering what would be my listing on this site, and what to claim?
People often guess me taller than 185cm, but thats because i have long legs, small head and good physique. I walk at around 85-86kg.

Grayloth said on 17/May/25
c-mo

I am speaking of ideal height. Ideal height in Sweden for a man is seen as somewhere between 6’2-6’4. 6’5 is a good height but a little too tall to be ideal.

Chris Paul said on 17/May/25
Hey Rob,
How tall does Robelis Despaigne look next to 6’4 range Alex Pereira
Click Here
Click Here

5'11james said on 17/May/25
Rob, if someone measured between 181-181.5 around 3-4 hours out of bed, what would you class them as in height? Average or tallish?

J0seph.2 said on 16/May/25
Hey Rob, if someone measures, as a low, a little under 5'10 for example, at 5'9.9 on the dot, would you round up to 5'10 and consider 5'10.25 a fair listing ?

rlheight5'11 said on 16/May/25
@Rob
Good, sounds like you are keeping well and healthy.
Do you hear from Bobby and sandy?

HackGod10 said on 16/May/25
Hi rob how tall do you think AP Dhillon is ? he was at the celebrity all star game nba earlier this year, he claims 6 foot but I think he's not over 5 foot 11 maybe even in 10.5 range. Could you please check

c-mo 176-177cm said on 16/May/25
@sofar

you are 188-188.3cm out of bed and 186.5 - 186.6cm after being 7 hours awake and having trained . i would claim 187cm if i were you


@Grayloth

if 190cm is seen as ideal by women then they wont suddenly find a 195cm too tall and undatable . 5cm is not enough to make such a difference . 195cm is a good height and women like that height on men

c-mo 176-177cm said on 16/May/25
@Mike190

bro it was me who answered you not jamss b . he just quoted me

i will answer you now :

- "Yes, that's because the there are a significantly greater number of men within that height range than over 185cm."

surely that is one factor but i am saying that regardless of that if you took 500 random men for example who are in the 5'9 - 6'0 range and compared them to 500 random men who are between 6'2 - 6'5 or higher ...you will find a lot more good looking guys in the 5'9 - 6'0 range . i would bet money on it . but we dont need to discuss this further because it seems we wont agree on it :) thats okay .


- "Yes, but we are discussing optimal height controlling for all variables like proportions. I have seen men over 200cm that have better proportions than men who are 180cm. They are genetic outliers for sure, but you can have optimal proportions at any height."


many men above 185cm simply dont have good proportions . especially above 193cm . sure there are some taller men who do ....but many simply dont . and even if for example a 200cm man has good proportions his height would still be not optimal . it would be best if he was 184cm for example instead of 200cm . but 200cm is still a decent height especially if you do happen to have good proportions . for me anything up to 193cm is good and up to 203cm is decent . above 203cm becomes very excessive . but even above 203cm is better than being short unless you suffer from an illness . if i was very tall i would definitely try to make a career in basketball or at least volleyball .

but either way above 185cm is not perfect anymore in my eyes . because it is vertically too high / stretched . the glass is full at 6'1 as i said . my best friend is 188-189cm btw. so i know how a solid 6'2 looks among people etc. . it is definitely a good height but it is a few cm too much to be optimal . even only the fact that when we are clubbing that he has to bend down when he talks to people especially women is one reason why it is not optimal . i often think that the midway between my friends height and mine would be optimal . which would be about 182 - 183cm . above average but not too much . something around 182 - 185cm at night with good proportions and a mesomorphic build is the sweet spot

but hey no one can choose their height lol . it is how it is


- "Do you seriously think that men like Derek Theler or Clint Walker have/had trouble with women because they are "too tall" and have "bad facial harmony"?"


no of course not . they are good looking and have decent proportions and are very tall . very good to attract women . and they have good heights . i am not saying that being above 185 is bad . i am only saying that it is not perfect

Gianni 5' 7 said on 16/May/25
c-mo 176-177 cm

I don't know how they get those measurements, but they're not reliable at all. There's a good research about the average height of young men (19 y.o.) living in italian urban areas between 1990 and 2020. I quote:

"the average height of young men living in Urban areas fluctuated over the last three decades [...] The lowest average height was observed in 2008 and 2009 with 173.74 cm. In 2020, the average height recorded was 175.36 cm".

rlheight5'11 said on 15/May/25
@Rob
Ok that’s fine, I’ve not been able to post for ages. I didn’t mean to sound rude, I just missed posting and sent you a few emails asking how you were. I got my internet changed to my name so I’m not sure whether my IP address has changed. Anyway, how have you been?

Obese said on 15/May/25
I hope someone can help me with this. I measure always always 171,5 cm in the morning (5'7.5) but this is usually not with a good night sleep, meaning I probably did wake up in the middle of the night or I woke up and stayed in bed for 10+ minutes on my phone switching positions etc. With good night sleep 8+ hours I am peak 5'8. By the end of the day after like an 8 hours shift at work I am 5'6 lowest and when I am home all day I am around 5'6.25 but if I go and sit on my couch for a bit or in my chair and measure again I am 5'6.5. I quickly lose my morning height.

For context, I do not have any diagnosed back issues. The only issue I have which is something I want to confirm so this isn't a coping mechanism for my height fluctuation and maybe something I ned to contact my GP for is. I weight 92,5 kg. My body fat percentage is somewhat around 35-40% MINIMUM, if not way beyond. I lack back muscle so I don't really have a lot of muscle mass to support my back. I think this might ultimately be the cause of my excessive height compression. I think when I did weight 85 kg 3 months ago or so I was when at home measuring at 5'7 after being on the chair or sofa for a bit and lowest 5'6 or a bit above that after work. I since than gained weight up to 90 kg, still didn't experience much more height fluctuation, got to like a bit under 5'6.5 after work, but than 2 weeks ago I gained up to 98 kg and lost all that weight back to 92 kg and since that I am experiencing the new height fluctuation which is 5'6 lowest after work and 5'6.25 when being stood up for some time.

please help me out and let me solve whether this is an issue being caused by excess weight with mostly fat and low muscle ratio.

sofar said on 15/May/25
sofar said on 13/May/25
i'm 188-188.3cm out of bed
wonder at what figure i would be listed at


i measured myself at 186.5-186.6cm 7 hours out of bed and after an 1h gym session. i wasn't that active during the day tho, only 6k steps

c-mo 176-177cm said on 15/May/25
@Jamss B

of course bro . there are good looking guys of almost every height . i would even say that men between 5'4 and 5'7 (the height range you are asking about) look better facially on average than men who are 6'2+ . again this is MY observation and opinion . but of course there are also enough good looking men who are 6'2+ lol . dont get me wrong. but in my experience best looking men are between 5'8 to 6'1 if you want a very wide range and more so 5'9 - 6'0 as i said

by the way : a celeb example of a good looking guy who is in the 5'4 - 5'7 range would be dave franco for example



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@Gianni 5' 7

hey my friend what do you think about the average height stats of north italy and south italy listed on wikipedia ? apperently they are measured averages of 18 - 21 year olds :

north italy : 179.4cm measured in 2018

south italy : 177.4cm measured in 2018


it is higher than what you feel is the average height in italy

Mike190 said on 15/May/25
@Jamss B

I am simply paraphrasing the dating app studies that I read, not my personal opinion. I also never said that you have to be that tall to be successful with women, of course you can get attention even under 170cm. In my secondary school one of the guys who got the most girls was only 168cm, but he had a very attractive face, he was an extremely fit athlete, and most importantly he was confident and outgoing.

"and most dudes i have known in my life who are sucessful with women have been between 5'9 and 6'1"

Yes, that's because the there are a significantly greater number of men within that height range than over 185cm.

"in my experience / observation many men taller than around 6'0 - 6'1 have either bad body proportions or bad facial harmony etc."

Yes, but we are discussing optimal height controlling for all variables like proportions. I have seen men over 200cm that have better proportions than men who are 180cm. They are genetic outliers for sure, but you can have optimal proportions at any height.

Do you seriously think that men like Derek Theler or Clint Walker have/had trouble with women because they are "too tall" and have "bad facial harmony"?

Mike190 said on 15/May/25
@Gianni 5' 7

Average young male (born 2000) in Italy as a whole is 174-175cm from what I've read so you're correct. However there is a large variance between the north and the south, with the average being above 180cm in Friuli Venezia Giulia and below 170cm in Sardinia.

Grayloth said on 15/May/25
I agree with James. 6’10? That is like one in a million.
I come from Sweden and here in Scandinavia around 190 cm is seen as ideal. So 6’2-6’4. 6’5 or 195 cm is seen as too tall from the girls I have asked.

Gianni 5' 7 said on 15/May/25
I don't know where you all live, but at least here in Italy there is no way that average height is somewhere near 5 ft10. I'm 5ft7, not even a solid one (5 ft 7.5 First thing in the morning and 5 ft 6.75 at night). I've been interested in height for years and I can guarantee that a REAL 170 cm guy doesn't feel short most of the time here. Low average, but not short. Considering the male population of the country, I'd Say that 5 ft7 is around 30 percentile. Obviously, Italy is one of the eldest country in the world. With so many men over 70 y.o., height loss becomes a factor. Average height is no more than 5 ft 8.5, maybe a fraction over that here in the North and a fraction under in the South. I start feeling short only when I'm on a crowd of young guys, the average height of young men being about 176 cm (that's my guess).
Anyway, I've noticed that when I claim 170 cm in public people tend to be surprised. "Wow, you doesn't seem so short!" or "No way you're THAT short". That's their reaction, as if 5ft7 was a super short height.
Truth Is that I know plenty of guys among 175 and 177 cm and 95% of them claim 180 cm. Moreover, almost all the 165-167 cm guys that I know claim 170 or even 172 cm. This height inflation process bring people to consider 180 a perfectly average height. It's not, at least in Italy a real 180 cm man is still quite tall (and he obviously claims 185 cm)

Jamss B said on 15/May/25
c-mo 176-177cm said on 14/May/25
Mike190 said on 12/May/25

"If you want to discuss the optimal height for dating, however, it is a completely different story. The recent studies that I've read all point to the fact that most women in the west want very very tall men: with an optimal range of 195-200cm or specifically 6'6" (198cm) being the most desirable height. The "acceptable" range where more than 50% of women would still date you based off your height alone ranges from 6'0-6'11 in the USA and 185cm-210cm in Europe. I know, it's insane how high the standards are."


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sorry but thats BS . i am 39 years old and am 176-177cm (most people guess my height to be around 180cm btw) and have never ever struggled to get attention from women since i was a teenager . getting checked out , getting phone numbers , getting dates etc. . zero problems. and in my experience as i said in my post below when you hit a solid 5'8 it is mostly about facial attractiveness (facial attractiveness is the most important anyway ) and body frame like proportions and wide shoulders etc. from there and you can not blame your height anymore if you have trouble attracting women . even if being taller than solid 5'8 would be better .

and most dudes i have known in my life who are sucessful with women have been between 5'9 and 6'1 AND most guys who i have seen and known who have good facial aesthetics and good body proportions are also around 5'8 / 5'8 to 6'0 . in my experience / observation many men taller than around 6'0 - 6'1 have either bad body proportions or bad facial harmony etc. . i hope this doesnt offend anyone but thats what i have observed . if you take 500 men between 5'9 and 6'0 and compare them to 500 men who are 6'2 - 6'5 for example you will find way more attractive looking guys in the 5'9 - 6'0 range . i am sure about it . the best looking male celebrities are also between 5'9 and 6'1 with especially around 5'11 having many attractive ones . just to name a few : George Clooney , Orlando Bloom , Leonardo Dicaprio , Brad Pitt , Jamie Dornan , Henry Cavill etc. etc. etc.

the study you are talking about is nonsense . most women ideally if they could choose the height of their men would choose a man who is between 5'11 and 6'2 with a good amount of women also liking 6'3 - 6'5 but the most attractive range for women is 180 - 188cm . but obviously with good proportions and good face . they would rather take a good looking 175cm for example than an unattractive 188cm . and many women will also like the heights of 5'8 - 5'10 especially 5'10 . after 5'8 it is mostly about face and frame as i said

sure when you are 6'5 and above there will be also many women who will like that especially women with a height fetish . but it is not ideal . especially above 6'8 is more niche appeal

and you must also not forget height inflation . when women see a solid 6'1 dude many of them will think he is 6'3 for example .


What about guys who are 5’4-5’7? Can they have good facial proportions?

Unt0ld said on 15/May/25
Hey Rob if excessive exercise is bad for your long-term height then how come people like Mick Jagger, Sylvester Stallone, Chuck Norris and Tom Cruise have all maintained their heights quite well despite having quite psychically active lifestyles?

Gianni 5' 7 said on 14/May/25
@ c-mo 176-177 cm

For what is worth, I perfectly agree with you. The idea that women only want super tall men is false and ridicolous. Generally speaking, irl women prefer men taller then them. Height can be an issue for men who are between 5'6 and 5'8, but I think that it's under the 5 ft5 mark that you struggle to make up your lack of height with facial attractivness and body frame. Under 5 ft5 a good chunk of women are tall as you or taller, so they may refuse you anyway. That being said, I know several short short men (160-165 range) Who have a certain success with women

c-mo 176-177cm said on 14/May/25
from all the reliable data i have seen so far i would say that for europe as a whole the average height for a young to middle aged man is something like 178.5 - 179 cm in the evening