General Height

Henrik said on 2/Dec/23
@Poster

Sometimes tall women can be bullied for their height. Or they just don't like hearing comments about being tall. For example, they used volleyball comments as ad hominems against the 5ft 10 (1.78m) anti-feminist YouTuber Pearl Davis. Although tall guys can hear basketball comments too, but it seems maybe it can be worse for women, IDK. Funnily enough, I saw a 6ft 7 (2m) YouTuber engage in the volleyball bullying of Pearl. 🤔 That's why I was surprised to hear that tall women add extra inches; I kind of thought being too tall as a woman was a bit of a 'negative' thing that caused the need to work on their self-confidence.

But yeah, Taylor Swift is 5ft 9 and claims 5ft 10 (1.78m) as well as 5ft 11 (1.80m), so I guess tall women can develop confidence to inflate their height.

Abdul-5'10 said on 2/Dec/23
c-mo 5'9.25 said on 30/Nov/23
Harris Bhatti said on 29/Nov/23
187 cm is the most aesthetically pleasing height proportion wise.

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nah . 180cm is
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I say it’s around 181-183

rlheight5'11 said on 2/Dec/23
@Rob
I didn't know until a few days ago, it's good to have them back 👍

Poster said on 1/Dec/23
I'm somewhat surprised that tall women add inches to their height too. I guess that Henrik and I aren't around women like that. I know short girls who add inches to their heights, though. A 5'0 girl claimed to be 5'4!

rlheight5'11 said on 1/Dec/23
@Rob
So.. the comments are back 😀

ZDA said on 1/Dec/23
Hi Rob, what’s your take the beginning of tall in cm in the U.K?

Nik Ashton said on 1/Dec/23
Our female friend popped into see us yesterday and she claimed to be 5’11”!

Nik Ashton said on 1/Dec/23
@ pov - 6’0” is still tall and 5’11.5” is maybe tall too. Average is 5’8”-5’10.5”. There are more taller people than in years gone by but the average hasn’t changed by as much as people think.

John 6'0.75 said on 1/Dec/23
@ c-mo 5'9.25

You're right, the most balanced proportions are in the 5'11 range, and this is very apparent in real life.

I think a compromise between good proportions and sufficient height is generally achieved at anything between 183cm and 186cm, although the midpoint of 184cm to 185cm would be the maximum to strike this balance. This is especially pertinent to overall head size.

It's difficult of course to negate bias - but it's easier to assess heights similar to one's own with greater accuracy.

Gibson Bradford said on 30/Nov/23
Rob, I measure at 6'1"3/4--6'2" right out of bed, then shrink down to 6'1" or 6ft 7/8 of an inch by the end of the day....absolute lowest after walking and running was a millimeter over 6ft 3/4 of an inch. Can I just claim 6'1" no problem?

adrianjacobs said on 30/Nov/23
@Sagenn "usually you would find a lot of attractive and socially active people accross your way espacially in small clusters such as parties, bars and affluents neightboorhoods, and of course they're taller, healthier and are disporportionately more to be seen in those nightly contexts than they are in daily life so effective average will clearly differ from the 177-178 official western countries numbers. in my experience, healthy/socially active people i've talked about are more around 180-181 or even 181-182 at a low. being a college student who is used to go out quite a lot i just cannot stick with the conventional 5'10ish, this is why i would set up my tall benchmark somewhere around 188-189"

Do you realize how disrespectful you sound? What if I started saying that socially active people are more white than non-social people? Would that sound okay to you? Height and skin color are both things you have no influence over.
You also must be European if you think it's fine to generalize attractive and non-attractive people in this kind of way.

John 6'0.75 said on 30/Nov/23
pov said on 28/Nov/23
@John 6’0.75, as mentioned to @Progking, I think tall should be decided from a common sense point of view, as opposed to stats. We get too tied into them, and from there technically anything above average can be argued as tall, even though in real life a 180cm guy wouldn’t even be described as a “tall guy” if you know what I mean. Even me at 184cm, no one really describes me as “the tall guy”. I think 187cm is the start of a proper tall IMO.


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@pov

I get the point you're making, but I wouldn't say that anything above average could technically be considered tall, and that's why statistics are important. If a given average range is 5'9 - 5'11 then 6'0 surpasses high average, and whilst debatable as to whether this appears sufficient to be considered the starting point of tall, statistically speaking it isn't.

The 184cm/185cm range I would argue becomes more than just tallish, it's only going to stand out moderately, but looks tall in real life in my opinion.
But 1 standard deviation above the mean will be seen as tall in the general population.

In Holland, Scandinavia, and parts of the Balkans I could say that at 190cm I'm never known as the tall guy.
If I were 187cm in these regions it would place me in the average range - so it's all relative.

ZDA said on 30/Nov/23
Hey Rob, how do you view a guy 180 cm before bed In general in the U.K.?

c-mo 5'9.25 said on 30/Nov/23
Harris Bhatti said on 29/Nov/23
187 cm is the most aesthetically pleasing height proportion wise.

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nah . 180cm is

Henrik said on 30/Nov/23
@Darksol64

I didn't know 5ft 10 (1.78m) women added inches to their height. That is very tall for a woman, equivalent to a 6ft 3-4 (1.90m+) man. Usually when a woman that height tells me her height, I'm inclined to believe it without any suspicion. That is interesting. I would have thought if anything, they'd downgrade.

rlheight5'11 said on 30/Nov/23
@Henrik
Yup prob temp, idk they never used to go down like that.

Darksol64 said on 29/Nov/23
@Henrik

I have some experience with the numbers game there and dating, haha.

Have dated a girl that claimed to be 6 ft and I was damn near looking over her head, and that shouldn't be the case as I'm a strong 187 weakish 6'2 with a 5'9 and change eyeline. My online profile I just put 6'1 so I guess she was probably surprised when I showed up near over 4 inches over her, especially if she thinks she's 6'0 and was about to date a 6'1 guy haha. When she's like 5'10 at best in reality.

Few years later did a date with a short girl probably 5'1 and she tells me I'm the tallest guy she's ever been on a date with. I'm thinking to myself really? Sure I'm a good 4-5 inches above average but still a good 2 inches under the very tall range which is like 1/50 guys. Oddball statistically or maybe she just hasn't been with many guys. r was a subtle innocent compliment.

Fun times, either way.

zairphoenix said on 29/Nov/23
Hey Rob,

I just went back for my yearly physical and measured 177cm at 4:00 P.M.
Would 5'10 be reasonable to claim?

Maricks said on 29/Nov/23
Rob, What height listing would you give based on these stats 6'1.75 is my morning height and during evening and night go down to 6'0.875?

KyleJoshua said on 29/Nov/23
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James B 172cm said on 29/Nov/23
I have an associate that I see from time to time who always claims to be 6ft6 so I assume he’s being honest. I am only 5ft7.5-5ft8 but last time I saw him up close he did look exceptionally tall sure but not freakish or anything like that.

Met some guys before who claim 6ft5 that give a taller impression than my friend. I’d be surprised if he turned out to be only 193cm though because why would a 6ft4 man feel the need to claim 6ft6?

Harris Bhatti said on 29/Nov/23
187 cm is the most aesthetically pleasing height proportion wise.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 29/Nov/23
For UK, I think 6ft is tall in gen pop but around 18-25yr old males I think you need to be 6'0.5 to be considered tall.

chad michaels said on 28/Nov/23
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pov said on 28/Nov/23
@HarrisBhatti, basing it on a +10cm range. E.g. short 167cm, average 177cm, tall 187cm. In between these figures you also have ranges, e.g shortish, below average, above average, tallish. Also, I would argue that Cristiano is 186cm, I know he’s listed as 185cm, but that measurement was taken after exercise, so he’s at his lowest. I would say he’s on the borderline, high end of tallish but not a solid tall guy. He’s touching that borderline. He’s got the body proportions of a 6”2 guy though, so that helps.

@Progking Exactly. I think when we describe tall we need to use a common sense perspective as opposed to stats. If we used stats technically anything above average could be argued as tall. I’d say 187cm+ is a proper tall.

@John 6’0.75, as mentioned to @Progking, I think tall should be decided from a common sense point of view, as opposed to stats. We get too tied into them, and from there technically anything above average can be argued as tall, even though in real life a 180cm guy wouldn’t even be described as a “tall guy” if you know what I mean. Even me at 184cm, no one really describes me as “the tall guy”. I think 187cm is the start of a proper tall IMO.

Henrik said on 28/Nov/23
What is tall is subjective. You will meet people who'd say tall begins at 1.95m (6ft 5).

Although I think quite a few 5ft 10 (1.78m) guys claim to be 6ft (1.83m) like Harry Styles. Simply because some girls and women are fixated by the 6ft number and refuse to date anyone shorter than that on the apps. This skewers the perception of how tall a true 6ft really is.

c-mo 5'9.25 said on 28/Nov/23
regarding what is tall this is my opinion

this is my height chart for men between 18 and 50 in the western world

all heights are about 5 hours out of bed


the more below 164 the more it becomes very short . and at a certain point extremely short

164 - 169 = short

170 - 172 = a little short

173 - 174 = below average but not short . ( maybe slightly so . but less so 174cm which is almost comfortably medium range) . basically a grey area

175 - 180 = medium range

181 - 182 = above average but not tall (maybe slightly so . especially 182) . grey area like 173 - 174

183 - 185 = a little tall . just like 170 - 172 being a little short

186 - 191 = legit tall

192 - 193 = this is starting to touch the very tall area . depending on the situation this might already be very tall

194 - 200 = very tall

above 200 = huge

above 207 = extremely tall and becoming giant like

213 / 7' + = gigantism



but this is just a rough idea and the heights are somewhat fluid . and there are also factors like body build , body proportions , shoes , posture etc. to be taken into account . for example when you are 184cm and have a lanky build and solid shoes you will likely already be seen as legit tall by most people . when you are 172 you are hardly different than a guy who is 173 for example . you dont suddenly become very different with 1cm more . or the medium range of 175 - 180 . at the higher ends you will feel and be seen as tallish in a good amount of situations . while at 175 you might feel slightly shortish at times especially when you have thin footwear and bad posture etc.

also if you are 177.5cm which is exactly in the middle of 175 - 180 you are medium height in the western world but you are tallish when you include more countries in the world and also include older men . and also taller than vast majority of women etc. so even though 177.5 is medium height in the west for non elderly men it is still on the taller side of the spectrum when you consider these things

this is just a rough height chart but i am pretty content with it . this chart shows reality in my experience and according to my observations

John 6'0.75 said on 28/Nov/23
I think 6'1.5 - 6'2 is more solid and for that reason alone I can certainly understand why it is more desirable than 6'0.5 - 6'1.

At 6'0.75 I already feel that I stand out moderately here in the UK and wouldn't really want to be any taller. There have also been times that I have barely had enough legroom in cars, planes/trains, and as a traveller this becomes particularly relevant to me.
I also think that the aesthetics and proportions in real life of 6'0.5 - 6'1 are better than that of 6'1.5 - 6'2. But in films the reverse is generally true.

In reference to male modelling photos I think the most aesthetic range is 184cm - 186cm.

It's probably easier to assess slightly taller or shorter heights in relation to oneself.

John 6'0.75 said on 28/Nov/23
@pov

If you would consider 6'1.5 the starting point of tall on the basis that it generally appears lanky then I would agree with you. Though from a statistical standpoint 1 standard deviation above average is accepted as the starting point of tall.

This would mean collectively that worldwide tall starts at 5'10 or 5'11, and collectively in Europe at around 6'0.5 or 6'1.

Sagenn said on 28/Nov/23
at 188/186 out of bed/evening height would i be considered as being 187cm tall on this site? seems like a lot of people here are going by different standards when it comes to actual height
according to my experience i think i'm indeed a bit shy of being true tall guy, especially since i'm not referring too much on everyday life where height fluctuates a lot due to the heterogeneity of people
we encounter, my way to go is night time life, this is when things get interesting, usually you would find a lot of attractive and socially active people accross your way espacially in small clusters such as parties, bars and affluents neightboorhoods, and of course they're taller, healthier and are disporportionately more to be seen in those nightly contexts than they are in daily life so effective average will clearly differ from the 177-178 official western countries numbers. in my experience, healthy/socially active people i've talked about are more around 180-181 or even 181-182 at a low. being a college student who is used to go out quite a lot i just cannot stick with the conventional 5'10ish, this is why i would set up my tall benchmark somewhere around 188-189 evening time, going back to my height i'm a fairly above average/tallish comparatively to the young & healthy average man, which is fine, albeit kinda frustrating sometimes, i mean im stuck in the tallish to tall border so im not able to fully enjoy the benefits of being tall like the 6'3 and 6'4 guys do!

Progking185 said on 27/Nov/23
@pov I think anything over 6'0 is tall, but 6'0 with the general 5'9 population I guess. I just say 6'0.5-6'1 is fairly tall, but I can see why you wouldnt call it tall, not too noticeable. 6'1.5-6'2 is start of solidly tall.

Harris Bhatti said on 27/Nov/23
@pov
What are you basing that on ? A standard deviation is about 3 inches so start of tall is about 185cm and it does make sense. So your saying someone like Ronaldo isn’t tall ?

pov said on 26/Nov/23
I’d say 6”1.5 (187cm) is the minimum requirement to be considered tall in the UK and US, in my opinion. This term of “6 foot” being tall is outdated. As average height has gone up, so should the benchmark for “tall”. I would say someone like Will Smith at 6”1.5 starts off the “tall” benchmark. I’m 184cm (6”0.5) and I am above average / tallish, but not a solid tall. I would never say tall. 6”1.5 is where I would say tall starts.

Henrik said on 25/Nov/23
@Progking185

Temporarily at least, it would seem.

Progking185 said on 24/Nov/23
Are the comments back up yet? Anyways still walking tall at around 185 lol

popyou004 said on 27/Sep/23
So is 5’8 still average range and is 5’7 short ? Like where would a guy like zayn Malik fit ? Short ? Average ? Considering average is close to 5’10

Kevin said on 27/Sep/23
@John185

Great post, I agree. Yeah, there really isn't any downside to being 6'1 that I can think of. It's an ideal height in almost any situation. 6'0-6'2 is also widely considered the ideal height for male models. Coincidence? I think not.

dreus23 said on 27/Sep/23
@Darksol

I've noticed I can lose quite a lot of height standing relaxed compared to standing at my tallest, I think I have a fairly long neck that I guess isn't always stretched out and I've noticed that in a few other people as well who also have long necks (that they look shorter until standing straight)

For example in my country our stores put up these height markers at the entrance/exit (it's used to capture criminals, it's just that it's completely worthless lmao) and walking by them (in shoes) I don't think I'm anything over 170 cm. A few weeks ago I tried standing straight next to the markers and I was suddenly reaching over 175 cm. Similarly at home I have a 164.5 cm marking from a few years back and my dad who's like 170-171 cm nowadays can look only a couple cm taller than that marking standing relaxed

Big Ben said on 27/Sep/23
@SZ - oh, right, yes maybe. I meant for example when you have your neck forward relaxed, and a completely relaxed spine, hips and knees. And me lowering my eye level might exaggerate my perception. I normally have a good posture.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 27/Sep/23
I read somewhere UK young male average is 177.5cm measured. But you can shave off a few mms from that as most people aren't measured in the evening. So about 5'9.75 I'd say. I feel within average amongst younguns(I'm 32) but at lower end. If we are talking evening heights most 18-30s are 5'9.5-5'10.5 range.

Abdu-5'10" said on 27/Sep/23
SZ said on 27/Sep/23
Average in the U.K. overall is 175 cm. 5 ft 9

Young guys though are a little taller at around 177 cm 5 ft 9.5

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Average range seems to be at least 174-178

Sam83 said on 27/Sep/23
Hi rob, thank you for looking! Would have been interesting if I had compared at the time, but sounds like she may have had a good chance of edging me out by an inch or so maybe, if she reached 6ft compared to my 5’11! It’s always surprising seeing someone appear a lot taller than you are used to, when they wear heels!

John185 said on 27/Sep/23
It's fair to assume that if the available data is indicative of a global male average of 171cm for all age groups, then young men might average 173cm.

Statistically tall therefore starts at around 180.5cm worldwide for the younger generation.

The corresponding percentiles are as follows:

178cm =
75th Percentile
0.7 Standard Deviation Above Mean

179cm =
79.1st Percentile
0.8 Standard Deviation Above Mean

180cm =
82.7th Percentile
0.9 Standard Deviation Above Mean

181cm =
86th Percentile
1.1 Standard Deviation Above Mean

182cm =
88.7th Percentile
1.2 Standard Deviation Above Mean

183cm =
91.1st Percentile
1.3 Standard Deviation Above Mean

184cm =
93.1st Percentile
1.5 Standard Deviation Above Mean

185cm =
94.7th Percentile
1.6 Standard Deviation Above Mean

186cm =
96th Percentile
1.8 Standard Deviation Above Mean

187cm =
97th Percentile
1.9 Standard Deviation Above Mean

188cm =
97.8th Percentile
2.0 Standard Deviations Above Mean

John185 said on 27/Sep/23
@186-187cm

In affluent parts of the UK the average for young men could be 180cm - 181cm, but in certain working class areas it's no more than 175cm - 176cm.
Overall I would say the average still doesn't exceed 178cm.
Also bear in mind that there are more middle-class people at college, so the average in settings such as that could be closer to 179cm - 180cm.

I reached my final height of 6ft 0.75/184.8cm at 16, but it's probably more common for men to grow until 18. Of course a minority will keep growing into their early 20's.

SZ said on 27/Sep/23
Average in the U.K. overall is 175 cm. 5 ft 9

Young guys though are a little taller at around 177 cm 5 ft 9.5

Canson said on 26/Sep/23
@J-Dog: great seeing you post again!

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Darksol64 said on 26/Sep/23
@ BigBen

That's not right at all. Maybe you're mixing up relaxed versus slumping?

I'm strong 187 stretched up and I might drop to 186 relaxed at most. I can still see over the top of the average 5'9 guys head even without stretching up.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 26/Sep/23
Any idea on Tim Robinson, Rob? From detroiters and I think you should leave. Compared with 5'10.25ish Sam Richardson I think he looks 5'9.5 maybe 5'9.75.

Big Ben said on 26/Sep/23
@Rob - yes, I also think it’s not normal to lose that much. I feel like Clark Kent transitioning to Superman when I fix my posture. Although it was just an estimate, it might just be 2 inches but I’m probably lowering my eye level subconsciously which might make it seem like 3 inches. But I do have a longer and thicker neck than most and that might be why.

5'11james said on 26/Sep/23
Hey Rob, ive found a pretty accurate way of measuring your height recently, here's how to do it:

1. Get a tape measure, get it at what your certain that your height is at, (I did 180cm)

2. Step on the metal part of the tape (the bottom of it with your toes) and make sure it's on the blank side when you look at it, and hold the hard part of tape measure, and make sure the tape is straight, and press the button to keep the tape in place.

3. Grab a phone and go on the camera and you can check if the hard part that your holding is close to the top of your head. Depending where youve set it at (for me again, it's 180cm).

If your head is pretty much bang on what CM you've set it to, then boom. That's your height. If not, press the tape measure to unhold it in place, and lower the tape down a bit, and use the camera app to check if the top hard part of the tape measure is touching the top of your head.

That's it.

Sam83 said on 26/Sep/23
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186-187cm said on 25/Sep/23
Amongst the younger generation in the UK age 18-25 would you say the average height is around 178-179 cm for males? I just started college and I’m a strong 186cm and whilst i do feel quite tall there are still many taller than me so I struggle to see how an average young male can be in the 5ft 9 range.Also what would you say the average growth between the ages of 16-18 are between males 2-3cm’s?

Adam10 said on 25/Sep/23
I measure 5'9.25" out of bed and am around 5'8.7" by afternoon/night after a typical day. After running or weight lifting I can measure as low as 5'8.5", is it disingenuous to claim 5'9?

popyou004 said on 25/Sep/23
Rob there’s something I don’t understand. If an average let’s say is 5’10. Will there be as many 5’8 guys as there will be 6’0 guys ? Or is it the taller the rarer it is. Will there be more 5’8 guys than 6ft or equal

popyou004 said on 25/Sep/23
Rob are you sure 5’10 is the average height among younger generations. I think it’s still under it. I see so many 5’8 people. If average height is 5’10 is 5’8 considered short or is it still average ? I think average might still be 176-177

J-Dog said on 25/Sep/23
Hey Rob, have you considered adding Will Reeve. Christopher Reeve's youngest son? He is on ABC Good Morning America and claims a height of 6'4" like his father.

Glacierrr said on 25/Sep/23
Hi Rob, do you think Jack Black is losing height in the photo due to his pose?

Big Ben said on 25/Sep/23
Hi Rob, how are you? I have a question, how come I lose around 3 inches when standing with a relaxed posture but my girlfriend who is 161 barely loses anything, maybe only an inch or two? Same with a friend who is a bit over 5’6”, if he stands relaxed he only loses about an inch (only an estimate from my POV).

I was in Barcelona a few weeks ago, the difference in height compared to Scandinavia is quite remarkable. I was always one of the tallest people around, even in big crowds I’d easily be taller than at least 80% of men whereas in Sweden I’m average height. Before Barcelona I spent a few days in Paris where the average was maybe a little taller than Barcelona, but only about an inch.

Progking185 said on 24/Sep/23
@jslatt they both look tall but Chunkz not quite 6'2 there. looks maybe a weak 6'1 and 6'2 could be a shoe measurement.

John185 said on 24/Sep/23
Start of tall = 1 standard deviation above the mean.

Tall for a 5ft 9 average is approximately:
5ft 11.78

Tall for a 5ft 9.5 average is approximately:
6ft 0.28

Tall for a 5ft 10 average is approximately:
6ft 0.78

(Assumming a relatively normal height distribution.)



171cm/5ft 7.32 is the global average height for men - so 1 standard deviation above the mean is 5ft 10.1


Factoring in aesthetics, convenience in everyday life, as well as what I would consider tall enough to moderately stand out but not draw too much attention I deduce that 6ft 0.5 - 6ft 1.5 or 184cm - 186cm is the ideal range.

I think 6ft is very good but a fraction too short, and 6ft 2 is very good but a fraction too tall. But anything from 6ft - 6ft 2 is essentially 100% good.

Strong 181 said on 23/Sep/23
Rob, I think the Seca 213 might undermeasure me slightly. When I measure myself facing the stadiometer ( only so I can max out my posture and stand tall ), the part that touches my head is slightly too short to really measure the highest point of my skull. Can you think of any solution to fix this ? Is there a stadiometer as accurate as the Seca 213 with a longer measuring part ?

5' 11 3/4 " (1.82 m) said on 23/Sep/23
Rob, how tall do you think my wife should be for my children to be 6ft 3?

MD said on 22/Sep/23
@Rob, did you remove the Height Request page, altogether?

Sam83 said on 21/Sep/23
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Jeffery White said on 21/Sep/23
Hi Rob, have had a long day today, got up early and been quite active. I have now been up for about 16 hours, and have measured about 175.1 maybe 175.2cm. Considering I measure about 177-177.2cm in the morning, and 175.3-175.5cm at the end of a normal day, is this still solid 5'9 range? Do you think this would be a 5'9 1/4 listing on your site? Thanks

stephan said on 21/Sep/23
Hello Rob i am 18 years and 3 months old and 181 cm tall, how likely is it i will reach 183-184 cm, my parents at their peak were 175 cm (father) and 158 cm (mother) and what can i do besides getting enough sleep to maximize my chances of growing after 18 now.

chad michaels said on 20/Sep/23
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Glacierrr said on 20/Sep/23
Hi Rob, I was wondering how tall these two guys look next to Jack Black
Here is the photo:
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The guy in the black and red jacket is in this footwear:
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While the other guy in the t shirt is in air force ones (I think).

chad michaels said on 19/Sep/23
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James B 172cm said on 19/Sep/23
pov said on 15/Sep/23
I‘m think I met someone I was at the pub yesterday in Birmingham, UK who has shrank about 7cm! I randomly chatting to a man in the smoking area, he slightly taller than me. (I’m 184cm). I would say he was about 6”1.5 (186cm). Anyways we were talking about football, and he was saying he used to play as a Sunday league football forward, he mentioned he was a “problem for centre backs, at 6”4 ”, first thing I was thinking this guy is lying about his height by a mile 🤣..but later in the convo he mentioned he’s had a metal knee cap put in due to injuries, and he was also 67 years old with back problems. After that I think he’s definitely shrunk, will never know if he was a full 6”4 peak, but know he must have been clearly taller than his current height of what I estimate to be 6”1.5… @Rob is a shrinkage like this possible given the circumstances?


6'4 was probably a shor height

Jeffery White said on 19/Sep/23
Thanks for the reply Rob. Around mid-day I tend to measure around 5'9 1/4. I know by celebheights standards this would make me a probable 5'9 1/4 listing, but I'm not going to claim this in casual conversation obviously. Either 5'9 or 5'9 1/2 would be what I would claim, but I'm reluctant to claim just 5'9 flat as even just before bed I can measure over that by a tiny bit

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 18/Sep/23
@Meltdown

Good list. I think giant starts at 6'9 though. My old mate was 6'9 and looked gigantic plus had all the problems that go with that height.

chad michaels said on 17/Sep/23
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Jeffery White said on 17/Sep/23
Rob, when people are listed on your site, would you say that "solid" range people would appear very similar if not identical to 1/2 inch listed people? E.g. if Person A measures near 5'5 in the morning (like 5'4 3/4) and maintains at least 5'4 all day, maybe is 5'4 flat maybe a bit over just before bed - and Person B is listed 5'4 1/2 on here

Jeffery White said on 17/Sep/23
Hi Rob, if my eye level straight out of bed is around 5'5 1/4 (approx 165.7cm), and around 5'4.5-6 (164cm) just before bed, what would you say my height was and what I would get listed as on this site? Do you think a 5'9 1/2 claim is reasonable enough? Thanks

5'7 and a fraction said on 17/Sep/23
@Meltdown

I can very much agree with that list as well. I did kind of go back and fourth on whether to overlap them or not but your right. It looks a lot more coherent with your adjustments.

5'7 and a fraction said on 17/Sep/23
@Meltdown

I can very much agree with that list as well.

romuald said on 16/Sep/23
If i'm like 187.6 - 187.8 cm out of bed, what kind of 6ft1 would i be and what are my height twins?

rlheight5'11 said on 15/Sep/23
@Strong 181
Get back to rob 😎
I don't care about an extra 1/8inch, I get you were just trying it out. (glucosamine)

5'10.25" said on 15/Sep/23
Sneako is never 6'2" lol. In the pic next to Trump he looks barely 1 cm taller, and Trump is still more or less 184 cm barefoot (187 cm peak). I'd say he's a legit 185 cm and nearer 187-188 cm in normal shoes.

pov said on 15/Sep/23
I‘m think I met someone I was at the pub yesterday in Birmingham, UK who has shrank about 7cm! I randomly chatting to a man in the smoking area, he slightly taller than me. (I’m 184cm). I would say he was about 6”1.5 (186cm). Anyways we were talking about football, and he was saying he used to play as a Sunday league football forward, he mentioned he was a “problem for centre backs, at 6”4 ”, first thing I was thinking this guy is lying about his height by a mile 🤣..but later in the convo he mentioned he’s had a metal knee cap put in due to injuries, and he was also 67 years old with back problems. After that I think he’s definitely shrunk, will never know if he was a full 6”4 peak, but know he must have been clearly taller than his current height of what I estimate to be 6”1.5… @Rob is a shrinkage like this possible given the circumstances?

chad michaels said on 14/Sep/23
Hello Rob, How much do you think these add in inches?
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Arch Stanton said on 14/Sep/23
I remember OK Magazine said Prince William got measured at a "strapping six two and a half" and he was between 18 and 19 at the time.. The question is whether he grew slightly or that is indeed is real height. I do think he generally looks between 6'2.5 and 6'3".

Arch Stanton said on 14/Sep/23
@Jslatttt said on 13/Sep/23
@Arch Stanton it’s at most 0.5 inch. Not enough to justify giving William a 6ft2.75 and Harry Kane a 6.1.75. Especially not giving Declan rice 6ft2 when he is clearly atleast one inch shorter than Kane even with seemingly thicker shoes.

I don't think the Prince is quite standing his tallest, head not straight...

186-187cm said on 13/Sep/23
Hello, why is it that when I measure myself facing the wall I’m a strong 186cm but when I do it with my back against the wall I’m barely over 6 foot 183-184cm? Does this indicate some posture/spinal issue? Also when measuring I do it alone with no assistance which may be the reason for my lower measurement but I would expect this would only result in a small 1cm difference 2 cm at worst but not 3-3.5cm. I know I’m easily over 185cm as my eye level is 174.5 cm so being in the 6 foot range cannot be possible.

@Jslatttt said on 13/Sep/23
@Arch Stanton it’s at most 0.5 inch. Not enough to justify giving William a 6ft2.75 and Harry Kane a 6.1.75. Especially not giving Declan rice 6ft2 when he is clearly atleast one inch shorter than Kane even with seemingly thicker shoes.

Meltdown said on 13/Sep/23
@ 5'7 and a fraction

Some of your designations were logically incoherent. You can't have height listings overlap each other on a chart.

This one is improved:

Under 4'10 = midget
4'10 - 5'1 = tiny
5'2 - 5'4 = very short
5'5 - 5'6 = short

5'7 - 5'8 = below average (shortish)
5'9 - 5'10 = average
5'11 - 6'0 = above average (tallish)

6'1 - 6'2 = tall
6'3 - 6'5 = very tall
6'6 - 6'9 = huge
Above 6'9 = giant

rlheight5'11 said on 13/Sep/23
@Rob
That's exactly why, my height hasn't changed for years.

Arch Stanton said on 13/Sep/23
@Jslatttt Don't be fooled by Harry Kane's hair. William clearly looks taller, about 0.75 inch taller looks right.

Strong 181 said on 13/Sep/23
I started using Glucosamine 5-6 days ago and I can say that it increased my out of bed from 183,5(normal) and 183,7-8(max) to around 184 flat. I hit the flat 184 mark 4 days in a row now. So it looks like I also wake up at my max out of bed with Glucosamine. My low also seems higher now. After gym I can maintain 181,6 and before it was around 181,3 or a little lower. However, my low area is definitely higher now. Could be used by people who really want an extra 1/8 inch. I never dropped below 181 at my extreme low but at my absolute lowest possible I could by a about 2mm . Now I don’t think I can drop below 181 at all at my absolute lowest with Glucosamine. Will report once I hit extreme low zone.

Gjuka89 said on 12/Sep/23
Hey Rob, I know you don't endorse elevator shoes anymore, but based on your knowledge from when you did, what true height increase should I expect from Guidomaggi 3.1 inch and 4 inch models?

@Jslatttt said on 12/Sep/23
Harry Kane also looks identical height to Prince William who you billed as 6”2 and three quarters. Declan rice who you listed as 6”2 was also in this picture with Kane and William and he is noticeably shorter than both. Maybe he deserves a downgrade?
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@Jslatttt said on 12/Sep/23
@Rob could you make a page for YouTuber Chunkz? He claims 6”2 and was measured in a video on a stadiometer as that but it wasn’t shown if he was wearing shoes or not. Standing with Harry Kane he looks about an inch shorter even with footwear advantage. I think Harry Kane is a solid 6”2 so maybe an upgrade for him? Click Here

Jake: 1.84 m - 1.85 m said on 12/Sep/23
Hey Rob, some great additions of late. A few others to consider below:

1. Hamish Linklater (Midnight Mass - incredible show, and his role was unforgettable). Also, he was very memorable in The Big Short! Gets listed 6ft 4 and looks at least 6ft 3...

2. Christopher Briney (garnering some big roles)

3. Gerardo Celasco - been in a lot of shows...looks near 6ft 1...maybe between 6ft and 6ft 1 perhaps, what do you think? Good pics of him and Jennifer Morrison

4. British character actor Paul Rogers (did a lot of noted work) and won many awards. Gets listed as 6', maybe around that at peak? Was in movies with big stars.

Much appreciated!

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 12/Sep/23
@James B 172cm


Well, we measured my old housemate once and he was 6'3.5. And I remember how tall he looked. This dude looked about 2 inches taller I reckon.

James B 172cm said on 11/Sep/23
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 10/Sep/23
@James B

I think it's a fairly spectacular height. I saw a 6'5-6'6 range guy a couple of months back at the supermarket and he looked huge.


Maybe the guy i knew at college was a 6ft3 inflating to 6'5?

James B 172cm said on 11/Sep/23
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 10/Sep/23
@James B

I think it's a fairly spectacular height. I saw a 6'5-6'6 range guy a couple of months back at the supermarket and he looked huge



How do you he was 6'5-6'6? Did you measure him

Tawehret said on 10/Sep/23
Rob how tall do u think ufc fighter don Frye is?

@Jslatttt said on 10/Sep/23
@Rob can you make a page for streamer Sneako? He claims 6’2 and looks it but maybe you think different.

Jslatt said on 10/Sep/23
Rob can you make a page for Sneako? He claims 6’2. Looks like it but maybe you think otherwise.

dreus23 said on 10/Sep/23
Hey Rob! How about a page for Ari Aster? The director behind Hereditary, Midsommar, and Beau is Afraid, he doesn't have any height listings anywhere either

With Toni Colette in maybe 3 inch heels:

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With the Midsommar cast:

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With Alex Wolff and Gabriel Byrne:

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With Joaquin Phoenix:

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There are a few more pics where Joaquin can look up to 3-3.5 inches taller but there's also a few were they look the same height so this is generally what the difference looks like

I think he's 5'6. He can look as low as 5'5 but has kind of bad posture and can sometimes look over 5'6 as well. He weirdly reminds me of Mac Miller height-wise

Also, feel free to say if these suggestions are intrusive or annoying and I'll stop

Canson said on 10/Sep/23
@Editor Rob: how about an add for Patrick Mahomes? One of the Best QB’s the league. Looks like morning measurement.

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MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 10/Sep/23
@James B

I think it's a fairly spectacular height. I saw a 6'5-6'6 range guy a couple of months back at the supermarket and he looked huge.

rlheight5'11 said on 8/Sep/23
@Rob
I've lost interest in my own height, but not celebrity heights and I said before I stopped growing.

James B 172cm said on 8/Sep/23
My former friends stepfather consistently said he was 6ft6 and if you saw him walking round the streets in my local town really nothing spectacular. He was on the heavy side for his height at 266 pounds which can give the illusion of looking shorter.

James B 172cm said on 8/Sep/23
Knew a guy in my college days who always claimed 6ft5 but I wouldn’t classify him as looking freakish at all even with his long legged lanky proportions. Weather he really was 6ft5 though is another matter but there was also one another on at college who claimed 6ft6 and much 6ft5 I would not stare in disbelief if I saw him on the streets or anything like that.

Caleb 178.83cm said on 7/Sep/23
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From watching these videos, do you guys think it's safe to say that Beau Brown is a legit 7'0"?

Kellan said on 7/Sep/23
@5'7 and a fraction
It's definitely possible for someone to be under 4'10" without having dwarfism, especially women. In the shortest countries, the average height is around 4'11" for women and 5'3" for men. Making women down to about 4'6" and men down to 4'10" relatively common.

dreus23 said on 7/Sep/23
Hey Rob, maybe a page for Jason Mantzoukas? He's been in quite a lot of different popular things, for me most prominently in Brooklyn 99 and John Wick

With Andy Samberg

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(Bad pic) With a heeled Connie Britton:
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With Jake Johnson:
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With Nick Kroll:
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He's billed as 5'10 and I really can't imagine him anything under that. I could see 5'10.25-5'10.5 as well

Tawehret said on 7/Sep/23
Thank you rob, yeah I’ll probly measure myself in them sometime when I buy a tape. Thank you for answering my questions, I always save them to my phone so I don’t ask again

Hope all is well on your end of things, can’t believe the years nearly over, I’m trying not to let that consume me… I always live in the moment. We just keep getting older man!!!

Tawehret said on 6/Sep/23
Hey Rob I don’t have a proper tape at home but I was wondering how much cm u think these puppies give?

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Kandron said on 6/Sep/23
@Rob
Interesting, is there a reason?

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 5/Sep/23
Hey Rob, I think the comedian/actor Larry miller is well over due a page. He's been in like a billion films, the nutty professor springs to mind. Gets listed at 5'11 but looks 3cm taller than Eddie. 5'10.5 maybe 5'10.75 I think.

Kandron said on 5/Sep/23
Hey Rob, GuidoMaggi is having some discounts right now that brings some of their prices close to Don's. I have money for both, so which one do you recommend assuming I want 1.5-1.8 inches (on top of the heel) true increase? Does Midsole Tech make such a difference that Don's is better?

TL said on 4/Sep/23
Hi Rob what’s the heel height of these shoes please? Click Here

5'7 and a fraction said on 4/Sep/23
I know people have done these lists several times now, but I just want to put in my take because I feel like it.

From my perspective personally in the UK, this is what these heights seem to me.

Less than 4'10 = Dwarf
5'0 - 5'4 = very short
5'4 - 5'7 = short
5'7 - 5'8 = below average (shortish)
5'9 - 5'10 = average
5'11 - 6'0 = above average (tallish)
6'0 - 6'3 = tall
6'3 - 6'6 = very tall
6'6 - 6'10 = giant tall
More than 6'10 = giant

Kandron said on 4/Sep/23
I ordered some chelsea boots from Don's Footwear, and I gave them my specific foot measurements to make sure I got the right size. This (Click Here is what arrived. Is this normal? What went wrong? The fit is mostly OK, though my heel slides a bit (fixable with thick socks) but I don't think is how they're supposed to look, they don't fit well around my legs at all and they look deformed. Gotta say, considering all I've heard about them I'm pretty disappointed, the boots didn't even come in a proper case, just tightly packed in a cardboard box.

Tawehret said on 4/Sep/23
Hey rob how tall do think the guy on the right is next to 5’10 keven mealamu?

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Idk whose slouching, u can never trust rugby heights as one day you’ll look 5’10 in a pic the other you’ll look 5’7 with Ritchie mccaw.

XAM3AT ?ETPOB said on 3/Sep/23
rob you operate this site for about 20 years now so do you ever feel burn out and want to take long break?

Jordan Henderson said on 3/Sep/23
Here is a video I made about morning, afternoon, and evening heights. Let me know if you agree...

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Averytin01 said on 3/Sep/23
Rob, you're absolutely right, most peg me as 5'10" despite me falling slightly below the mark. What would be the morning height of a solid 5'10" guy like Andrew Lincoln or similar?

XAM3AT ?ETPOB said on 3/Sep/23
rob have you ever visit russia? if so how tall did average guy look?

189.5cm/Age 15 said on 2/Sep/23
@Arch Stanton
It definitely varies from city to city. In New York I saw no one over 6’6”. In Amsterdam I met a guy who said he was 205cm but looked more like 202. In Tokyo max I saw was maybe 193cm, and I was there for the most amount of time. I met the most people in Tokyo.

rlheight5'11 said on 1/Sep/23
@Rob
Np, it feels weird posting again.

Caleb 178.8cm said on 1/Sep/23
I found an article that says Kristaps Porzingis was measured as 7'2.75":

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I looked at media pics of him with other nba players in gettyimages and he absolutely does look 7'2.75". Looks like he grew 1.5 inches since turning age 19.

c-mo 5'9.25 said on 1/Sep/23
@Nick96

you are a strong 185cm . not weak

Arch Stanton said on 1/Sep/23
The tallest guys almost always seem to be 6'6-6'7 Alex! A genuine 6 ft 8 or taller is super rare! I'd imagine if you live in a city like New York City or one of the European capitals like Stockholm, Amsterdam, Copenhagen or Berlin which tend to have taller than average populations you'd be more likely to see over 6 ft 8 a bit more regularly.

Weak5'11james said on 1/Sep/23
Hey Rob, I recently measured myself on a very flat floor and a good wooden door that's very straight with the aerosol can, and I'm in the 180-180.2cm range 5 hours after waking up! wow...

I'm also 19 years old so, maybe I'm still growing a tad bit.. (or I've stopped recently) I was 5'10 3/4 in the afternoon at February ish earlier this year, and before that, I was in the strong 5'10 range.

Or maybe all that time I was undermeasuring myself, and I really was the height I am now this whole time, or I suddenly grew over that timespan... weird.

I used to be James (178.3cm) Jones on this website around Xmas season 2022, and I was in that 5'10 range then, so yeah, a minor growth spurt definitely is possible..

Nick96 said on 1/Sep/23
Rob

Hi Rob. We talked about an year ago and now i’m back with some new curiosities and i would really appreciate your opinion. My dream would always have been to try to be a model, where very often a minimum height of 185 cm is required. Then it depends because I believe the heights of many models are approximated. So i refresh your memory with my measurements that are pretty the same obviusly. First thing of the morning around 186,5. During the day always between 185 and 185.5 and even at night. This situation is when I don't do particularly heavy activities, for example in a quiet day, maybe in the mountains or at the sea, commercial centers stuffs like these, 10 thousand steps…so a light physical activity. But things change when I go to the gym, not always, after some workouts I'm always in the range of 185, but in other cases instead, maybe in the heavier ones, I go a fraction below, like a little more than 184.5, an average of 184.7/8, in fact it's when my back hurts from the effort where maybe I did groundlifts or squats. However, I specify that already after like 30-60 minutes that I rested, my height is “restored” and until I go to sleep, I go back to being a little more than 185, like 185.1-2. I'm not stupid, I know I can safely say that I'm 1 meter and 85 tall, but since some time ago we talked about the differentiation between strong solid and weak, I was wondering if despite some intense days I go a few millimeters below 185 returning to more than 185 in the evening after resting, I can consider myself a strong 185. Sorry for the message lenght and thanks for the time, hi rob!

5'7 and a fraction said on 1/Sep/23
@Rob, I was just wondering, seen as there are people who can get well over 7 feet tall like Neil Fingleton and Shawn Bradley without any condition related to Acromegaly or Gigantism, is it possible that there are people who can be well under 4'10 without any condition related to dwarfism? I think I only ever came one scenario like this on some documentary on dwarfs in the acting business (idk if you've seen it) in which this lady was referred to as the "fake dwarf" as she was generally just really short in stature but other that I haven't really seen anyone else like that.

c-mo 5'9.25 said on 31/Aug/23
@Allheightsaretooshort

well what can i tell you . in my 30s (now at 37 too) women from 20 up to my age range check me out and smile my way and find me attractive still . real life that is . i am one of the least photogenic people on earth haha . and i am overweight right now (but even now some women show interest). i have been called handsome etc. since i was 15 . i have a good looking face but you might not see it that way if you saw my pics . i dont have hunter eyes or whatever . i have almond eyes and good facial harmony . i am content with how i look except my weight these days . and i am bald ...which looks manly and suits me in real life but on pics it looks weird . i look like a peanut head on pics lmao

not sure but i have the feeling you are posting in those lookism or looksmax or whatever the names was kind of forums . trust me many things of what the guys say there are nonsense . i lurked a few times in such forums out of interest . they will say stuff like 6'4 or its over 6'3 or death etc. which is just ridiculous for example . not sure if they are trolling but many seemed serious . some things they say are true but a lot of things are not . they also exeggerate certain stuff

and let me tell you . nowdays online dating is NOT representative of real life . of how you look. i know guys who are not good looking (and on top of them one of them was even often made fun of in school back then i remember . because of the way he talked and acted etc. ) have success online while i know good looking guys who have no success online .

if you dont have success online it does NOT mean that you are not good looking . trust me on that

rlheight5'11 said on 31/Aug/23
@Height Analyzer 2
I don't recognize your name, you're not new, are you? And
Do you think height is overrated in general, I've even seen 5'7 guys with attractive girls before.

rlheight5'11 said on 31/Aug/23
@Rob
It's nice to see the comments are back, hope everything is good with you.

Height Analyzer 2 said on 31/Aug/23
Wanted to thank Rob for this great site. I had some fun conversations on here, but won't be logging on or commenting anymore from September 1. Keep standing tall like 5'8.25 Rob Paul!

5'10.25" said on 31/Aug/23
@Allheightsaretooshort I agree with this. Older millenials aged 34-42 had it the best. I just missed the cut. Oh well...

Height Analyzer 2 said on 31/Aug/23
If you're tryna maximize height though, I recommend not wearing elevator shoes and add a pair of 2 cm lifts to some of the shoes Rob listed that give over 1.5 inches (3.8 cm). I think a 6 cm gain (from shoes) is more than enough to look taller without it being too noticeable

Height Analyzer 2 said on 31/Aug/23
To everyone who claims height is a huge benefit in nightclubs, I live in the city with arguably the best nightclubs in the USA, and while I'm tall (weak 6'5 at worst), I think height is very much overrated once you clear 5'11 barefoot (6'0+ in shoes). Attractiveness, charisma, and money talks a lot more than being tall. A good-looking 5'11-6'0 dude is gonna beat out a mediocre looking 6'3 guy any day where I'm at (think of something similar to NYC/LA)

Allheightsaretooshort said on 30/Aug/23
c-mo 5'9.5, You're 37. So most of your experience was in the golden era, when quality of life already peaked, but social media didn't ruin the sexual market yet (Late 2000s - early 2010s) Back then the woman standards according men was mostly based on reality around us. Now young girl spend a lot of time on tiktok, instagram and etc. where they see 11/10 male models who look like plastic mannequins that you'll never see in real life and start thinking that it is a norm, that it is how men supposed to look. Not even mention that nightclubs are losing its share to online dating where you don't have a chance to show your excellent game, because everything is based on profile photo there, that wasn't the case in 2010. Height requirements also increased by a couple inches, even though the average height didn't change much during last few decades. And if you still have a remarkable success with women at 37 these days, then most likely either these woman are your age or older, which means they're far out of prime or you just got top tier face with hunter eyes, cheekbones, strong defined jaw and chin that easily compensate your height disadvantage (yeah, I know you are average height, but nowadays among zoomers you're supposed to be far above average to be considered average due to inflation of everything in our twisted digital world)

Alex 6'0 said on 30/Aug/23
I had a friend years ago who was 6'4.5-6'4.75 and it was fairly rare he seen guys taller. When with him only a couple times i seen him come across guys taller than him. The guys were in 6'6-6'7 range. My friend's face u could see it that he wasn't used to seeing guys taller much lol

James B 172cm said on 30/Aug/23
Prince was only 5ft2 and could probably get laid by every girl in a nightclub

TaylorBee said on 30/Aug/23
Hello @Rob
If a female with a very curvy body (think Kim K) measured herself against a wall, would that affect the results? (because the curves naturally push her body away from the wall)? If yes, would it give a higher or a lower reading?

Kanderior said on 30/Aug/23
Hey guys, GuidoMaggi have some pretty big discounts right now which puts a lot of their stuff around the same price range as Don's Footwear. In fact this happened right after I ordered some chelsea boots from Don's Footwear (the MST Frangou) and I feel kind of annoyed now cause GuidoMaggi is considered a luxury brand and a lot of celebs who wear elevators buy from them (allegedly).

To those who have tried both, how do the two companies compare? Should I order something from GuidoMaggi while the discounts are going or is Don's equally good or better?

Caleb 178.8cm said on 30/Aug/23
Great to see this site's comments active again Rob. Hope you've been doing well.

Progking185 said on 30/Aug/23
@Maskdemasque maybe 5'8.5 in the Hijack show recently Idris looked a lot taller than him

5'10.25" said on 30/Aug/23
@c-mo Yes if you're at least decent facial wise and 5'8"+ in the western world + have game you can pull decent numbers. It's not my thing but kudos nonetheless (I'm 30 btw).

Abdul 5'10 said on 30/Aug/23
c-mo 5'9.25 said on 29/Aug/23
i dont want to sound as if i am showing off here and not trying to sound like a bighead but regarding nightclubs i have a lot to say . i have been to nightclubs very very often especially between ages 18 and 24 . but also after that . sometimes even 3 days in a row (thursay , friday , saturday) lol . i am 37 now . living in Germany . and i have had a lot of success with women . i never counted but i kissed estimated around 50 women or even more . got a lot of phone numbers . have sleptwith a decent amount . even 2 times IN the club xD (restroom) . lol . and i am between 5'9 and 5'10 . 5'9 range most of the day (178.4 out of bed and 175.9 evening) and was slightly shorter back then than i am now . so dont worry about being "too short" for nightclubs if you are my height . thats my message . and no i am not making these things up . these are my real experiences . so please dont try to discredit it ...i am not a liar

however i can understand when someone doesnt like nightclubs , it is full , loud , people are drunk etc.


and yes i am back on CH :) missed you guys
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I’d say it’s about charisma and being a good player to attract women and to enjoy time with them… but overall I’d say that short guys who are like 5’3-5’7 might have a pretty difficult time with women, since most girls or women prefer guys of at least average height or at least low average or something like that. But myself I am 178 cm, and i never had any good experiences other than dancing with women. lol!

I am a virgin and I am about 20, and I don’t care about women to be honest. I’ll rather find the true woman to date than sleeping with women.

But yeah, that’s my point.

Alex 6'0 said on 29/Aug/23
Progking, my 6'2.5 friend when we use to go out to bars often back then he generally was one the tallest and definitely the tallest when not crowded

Alex 6'0 said on 29/Aug/23
Progking, 6'0-6'1 in non big crowds definitely tall but big crowds you'll see more guys 6'3-6'4. 6'4 out will be taller than many in the bar or club.

c-mo 5'9.25 said on 29/Aug/23
i dont want to sound as if i am showing off here and not trying to sound like a bighead but regarding nightclubs i have a lot to say . i have been to nightclubs very very often especially between ages 18 and 24 . but also after that . sometimes even 3 days in a row (thursay , friday , saturday) lol . i am 37 now . living in Germany . and i have had a lot of success with women . i never counted but i kissed estimated around 50 women or even more . got a lot of phone numbers . have sleptwith a decent amount . even 2 times IN the club xD (restroom) . lol . and i am between 5'9 and 5'10 . 5'9 range most of the day (178.4 out of bed and 175.9 evening) and was slightly shorter back then than i am now . so dont worry about being "too short" for nightclubs if you are my height . thats my message . and no i am not making these things up . these are my real experiences . so please dont try to discredit it ...i am not a liar

however i can understand when someone doesnt like nightclubs , it is full , loud , people are drunk etc.


and yes i am back on CH :) missed you guys

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 29/Aug/23
Hey Rob, how about the actor Neil Maskell from films like Kill List and the TV show Utopia? Compared to 5'9.5-5'9.75 range Michael Smiley in Kill List, he looks about 5'8.

Vij said on 29/Aug/23
Hey Rob, guy on the left claims 185cm. How tall does the guy on the right look?Click Here

Progking185 said on 29/Aug/23
Comments finally back nice
@Alex6'0 yeah I notice in big crowds 6'0-6'1 can be on the tall-ish side at times, but its pretty tall generally. I guess a very tall height like around 6'4 is pretty much always tall in a crowd. Few guys that height or taller

Darksol64 said on 29/Aug/23
@Alex

Sounds pretty spot on the average guy around here is between 5'6-5'9 it seems and 19 out of 20 of them are paired up with a cute girl.

6'0+ certainly doesn't hurt your chances and you'll likely have an edge over the shorter guy if you can talk to girls at the same level he can...but at the end of the day it's not a deal breaker.

The challenge definitely ramps up below 5'6 for sure. 5'2-5'5 I'd say are probably the most challenging heights for a guy that's not famous. You'd be better off to be in the 4'8 range or something because at that point you are at least pretty unique statistically, and you'll probably find a quirky girl with a thing for unusually short guys that she rarely ever sees in public.

Alex 6'0 said on 29/Aug/23
I don't go out often but when i do its bars or maybe a lounge. Never clubs. Depending where I'm at ill feel tall or above average. Local spots I'm definitely on tall side but big places not as much. I'll see guys below average height talking to women. I don't believe height matters so much with talking to women or them accepting you unless you're really short. But guys 5'6-5'8 u shouldn't have problems. Its more about your game and how you talk to women.

5'10.25" said on 28/Aug/23
@James I'd say nightclubs are a waste of time for most people, unless you are going there say once per month. That's it.

Averytin said on 27/Aug/23
Hi Rob, I'm exactly 178.6 cm first thing out of bed, then drop to around 176.9 cm by around 6pm, possibly more if I'm on my feet longer. Would I be considered a solid 177cm / 5'9.75" guy by celebheights standards?

Abdul 5'10 said on 27/Aug/23
James B 172cm said on 27/Aug/23
Apparently men under average height are invisible to females in nightclubs. Basically in a club size seems to matter.

What are your views on this?
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I don’t go to clubs or bars any longer, it’s a waste of time and waste of money too. Since things are pricey in those places. But I used to go clubbing kinda often back in late 2021 , 2022 and in the earliest part of 2023. After I started to train from late march, then I quit going to those places. It’s not worth my energy either because my rest day is supposed to be very relaxing.

But I used to be in the 5’9 range and about 5’9.5 when I went to those places, and most were ignoring me. But I did have some dances with some women . But that’s it .

James B 172cm said on 27/Aug/23
Apparently men under average height are invisible to females in nightclubs. Basically in a club size seems to matter.

What are your views on this?

SZ said on 27/Aug/23
Hello Rob, would you consider a guy 181 cm before bed into the low tall range or upper average? Feels like 181-182 range is a confusing range like a grey zone/area.

Subi Wu said on 27/Aug/23
Robertson, my man, love that the comments are back, but a part of me wishes they stayed closed

Height Analyzer 2 said on 26/Aug/23
Rob,

Hope you're doing well. You should have kept the comments closed on this site. It was so much more peaceful for the last two months

jokey said on 11/Jun/23
@Rob

i measured myself after 15 hours just to make my back cry and turns out i was 180.1 or 2 cm. What height would you list me at?

I think we have exactly 7cm apart.

5'10 Abdul said on 11/Jun/23
Emil said on 10/Jun/23
@rlheight'11

Gsuave, Tyjule & Tarif lmao those were some real characters 😂
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They are all banned from the site anyway, because they are unwanted. A HUGE LOL!

Caleb 178.8cm said on 11/Jun/23
Click Here

Another picture my brother took of me. I measured myself under my stadiometer just after this pic was taken at just under 5'10 1/4".

Another picture taken a couple hours before: Click Here
I measured just under 5'10 3/8" after that pic and I look that height in the pic.

Six foot 1 said on 10/Jun/23
Rob do you think vaping/consuming nicotine can stunt height growth during puberty?

N Okanovich said on 10/Jun/23
Hello @Rob, what do you think the height difference is here? The person on the right claims 6 foot 6 inches tall. The person on left claims 6 foot 5 inches tall. What do you think their actual height is? Thank you.

Click Here

N Okanovich said on 10/Jun/23
Can anyone guess the height difference between these two? The person on the right claims 6 foot 6 inches. The guy on left claims 6 foot 5. What are their heights?

Click Here

Caleb 178.8cm said on 10/Jun/23
Click Here

Interesting photos that my brother and mom took of me holding a tape measure right in front of me. My 5’1 mom took the second photo squatting down to a low angle. Right after those photos were taken, I measured myself on my stadiometer at just over 5’10.25”.

Jdubbz said on 10/Jun/23
Alexthegreat said on 9/Jun/23
@5'10.25"

30 percentile equals short, in my opinion.

It means almost 60-70% people are taller than you, which it is must be short.

In the real life, even a guy reaches the average height, he may also feel he is pretty short among his peers.
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So by that logic, you’d say a 5’10.5-11 guy is tall?

Sandy Cowell said on 10/Jun/23
rlheight5ft11 - It’s occurred to me that seeing the late Sookie’s picture could be upsetting for Rob and Jenny. Maybe someday Sookie will return and I would be very pleased to see her face again.

We can still communicate with one another on Rob’s page though. I always enjoy hearing from you and my phone knows your name!

Here’s wishing you a great weekend,

All the best,

Sandy XX 😁

adrianjacobs said on 10/Jun/23
@Jdubbz
I was about 6'1 at my evening low. I think I did notice the change. I see a lot more women now who are as tall as me and taller.
Some of my coursemates who were noticeable shorter than me 3 years ago are now about the same height as me. They had no way of growing because they were 20 then and 23 now.
I don't know if you can see it, but here's a picture of me
at 18: Click Here
and from last year when I was 22: Click Here

adrianjacobs said on 10/Jun/23
@Emil
I have no idea, but I suspect that it was a herniated disc. I had a lower back pain that worsened when I leaned forward, which seemed like a symptom of herniated discs. It also radiated into my right leg and hip. It started at the same time as I started shrinking and then gradually went away.
I can't completely rule out osteoporosis due to testosterone deficiency, because I look extremely young for my age and my beard stopped developing when I was about 17-18. I can barely grow any beard at all now.
The doctor didn't take me seriously so I had no way of finding out what it was.

5'10.25" said on 10/Jun/23
@alexthegreat

I'd say it's like this from my experience:

2-3rd percentile very short
10-15th percentile short
20th-25th percentile below average
30-70th percentile average
75-80th percentile above average
85-90th percentile tall
97-98th percentile very tall

you should feel/be short if 3 in 4 guys or 6 in 8 guys are taller than you. At average height you should feel equal amounts tall and short.

@Johan 185 cm


1sd is 7 cm for men. If 178 cm is 50th percentile, then 185 cm is 84th percentile, not 88th percentile. That is somewhat tall, but still a pretty common height. In random 1000 on the street, 100 would be solidly taller and 100 around the same height.

Emil said on 10/Jun/23
@rlheight'11

Gsuave, Tyjule & Tarif lmao those were some real characters 😂

Big Ben said on 10/Jun/23
I think I’ve strained in my back. I really only feel it if I do a Sphinx stretch or something similar, or try to force myself to stand very straight. It’s very minor pain and localised so I know it’s not a problem with a disc or a vertebrae, it’s definitely a muscle spasm or strained muscle. It doesn’t bother me at all, I just thought it was interesting and I first noticed it when I woke up about 2-3 days ago. I might have slept in a bad position.

James.B 172cm said on 9/Jun/23
I knew 2 guys in college one being 6ft5 and the other 6ft6. Certainly not giants by any means but tall and towering never the less.

Oddly enough I didn’t know any 6’4 guys at the college.

Alexthegreat said on 9/Jun/23
adrianjacobs said on 22/May/23
Ipa said on 21/May/23
@adrianjacobs
I'm from Tuzla, Bosnia.

Btw, just yesterday and night before we had beer fests in downtown, it was pretty crowded, one in four was over 6'2, couple were shorter than 5'10' shortest probably about 5'7 and tallest up to 6'7, majority being 5'11 to 6'2. I blent in fairly well at between 6' and 6'1. On couple of occasions i was towered by group of dudes. Later last night i went to local night club again it was mostly filled with 18 to 22 yo's i felt somewhat on shortish side. Only fewer were head shorter. Many girls were up to 5'11 in heels.

-In that case, people who to clubs in Sweden where I live might even be taller. I think at least 1 in 3 are easily 6'2+ here and not a few girls are 6'1 without heels.

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In that case, high school students what I saw in Serbia and Montenegro are way taller. I lived in there 1 month ago and visited several local schools. Averagely, each class has 1-2 out of 15-25 boys who is 200 cm or taller. Even a few of ones have 5-7 giant kids(above 2 Meter). Montenegrin Gen Alpha are usually 183-188cm on average, but Serbian peers are more likely 182 - 186cm(Depends on different classes and schools). However, the extreme exception is one class I saw in Serbia, 7 in 12 boys were taller than 200 cm, even 4 of them were around 210 cm. Of course, it is an exception but still.

As a man who is 193cm barefoot in night, I only feel average/slight above average there, which is considered very tall in US.

BillMe said on 9/Jun/23
Best case - out-of-bed height: 5 11.5
Typical 1pm height: 5 11
Worst case - end of day: 5 10.5

Rob - By your system, can I claim 5'11 or is 5 10 1/2 more honest?

Alexthegreat said on 9/Jun/23
@5'10.25"

30 percentile equals short, in my opinion.

It means almost 60-70% people are taller than you, which it is must be short.

In the real life, even a guy reaches the average height, he may also feel he is pretty short among his peers.

TL said on 8/Jun/23
Hi Rob what would the heel height of these be? As advertised? Click Here

rlheight5'11 said on 8/Jun/23
@Sandy Cowell
I miss the Sookie den and Rob Paul pages, especially that sookie one tbh😿
Rob says that they are only hidden, not deleted.

rlheight'11 said on 8/Jun/23
Bobby said on 23/May/23
I would say that this forum generates an IQ well below average, however.
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Internet forums attract all kinds of people.

It's still better than it has been since Gsuave was banned, though.
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Yeah, Gsuaves main YT channel got banned recently. His name hasn't been mentioned on this forum in a while.

rlheight5'11 said on 8/Jun/23
@Rob
I hadn't checked your local weather and yes it has been a good few wks.

cdst said on 8/Jun/23
Hey @rob I am 187 cm, can I claim 6’2

rlheight5'11 said on 7/Jun/23
@Charline
You're 5'5 yet you dislike 5'2 for some reason.. Why?

jokey said on 7/Jun/23
Brother1727271 said on 3/Jun/23
What could be my possible height matchs ?
Solid 6'1

James B 172cm said on 7/Jun/23
I wouldn't mind trading my height of 5ft7.75 for 5ft4 or 5.

Being shorter is better for longetivity

Jdubbz said on 7/Jun/23
@AdrianJacobs:

Interesting, so you were more like 6’1.5 at your peak? Sorry to hear you lost height, especially when you’re close to the average height in your area. Did you feel noticeably shorter relative to other people in Stockholm after it happened?

Emil said on 7/Jun/23
@adrianjacobs

Did you herniate a disc or something?

Kevin said on 6/Jun/23
@Baller7

It's extremely unlikely you've lost any height in your mid 20s unless you have osteoporosis or suffered a spine crushing injury. The vertebrae doesn't even finish ossifying until age 25 and bone mass doesn't peak until age 30. Height loss before then seems impossible barring extreme circumstances. Maybe your posture is just terrible? I'm 29 and have no height loss at all. I grew a fraction of an inch between ages 19-22.

Sandy Cowell said on 5/Jun/23
Please, Rob, could we have a page for Animals singer Eric Burdon? I’ve been watching the band from 1965 singing ‘It’s My Life’ and Eric looks considerably shorter than the others. I found 170cm for him, though he’s likely to be less today.

Eric had solo hits in the 70s and very good they were too.

Thanks Rob!

Weak5'11james said on 5/Jun/23
Hi Rob, could you please add AnEsonGib to Celebheights? I think he looks like a 5'8 1/2 to weak 5'9 guy...

JS230 said on 5/Jun/23
@Baller7, it is fairly unusual to lose height in your 20s. I would attribute that more to posture than anything, particularly if you are sitting more for like an office job versus your more active high school and college years.

That said I did know of a guy who had a medical condition following a military deployment who did “shrink” though that was isolated. If you want to chat on it, reach out to me — jsmith230@yahoo.com

Adrian 6'0.9" said on 5/Jun/23
@5’10.25 We’re literally on a height forum where people are represented to fractions of an inch. 2” is absolutely significant. Of course in practice and in public it’s not a big deal, I grant you that, but in terms of documenting with precision, it’s definitely meaningful. That’s the way I meant it..

Adrian 6'0.9" said on 5/Jun/23
@Jawilder Yeah fair, I just saw it for the first time. I guess he’s just a solid guy where most people exaggerate. Be interesting to follow his page if he ever gets listed here

Tawehret said on 5/Jun/23
Rob, in how many years do u think 6’2 will be considered average height? At this rate it’ll take 200 years at least… 6’2 is pretty tall too, to me that’s very tall

Caleb 178.8cm said on 3/Jun/23
@Editor Rob
How tall do you think Kristaps Porzingis is? I think he's definitely taller than the 7'1.25" he was measured at. I think he's at least 7'1.75".

adrianjacobs said on 3/Jun/23
@Baller7
Yup, and in my early twenties. I lost 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch when I was about 20-21 year old, accompanied by a back pain I had back then. The doctor didn't take me seriously and I don't even know if anyone here is going to do it. I just accepted it and moved on, but both my evening height and morning height were slightly taller back then.

Brother1727271 said on 3/Jun/23
What could be my possible height matchs ? Im interested to see how guys of my height potentially look in real life compared to other people.
I'm 187.3-187.5 cm out of bed, 185.4-185.8 cm midday, 185.1 at my low and 184.5-184.8 at my extreme low.

Jdubbz said on 3/Jun/23
@Baller7:

This could be caused by a number of things. Luckily, it’s most likely reversible. The first thing I’d check out is your posture. Not just whether you stand up as straight as you can, but whether you have any degree of excessive spinal curvature. This can manifest itself as kyphosis (upper back curvature), lordosis (lower back curvature) or scoliosis (lateral curvature). Also google anterior pelvic tilt and see if you have it.

I personally “suffered” from kyphosis and APT because of my sedentary lifestyle (I’m on the computer for a good chunk of the day). I grew in my 20s, but I thought I capped out at 6’5 3/4”. When I corrected those issues (which I still do, every day) I “regained” a bit over a half inch of lost height

If your spine doesn’t have excessive curvature, there are only a few other reasons you’ve lost height. The thickness of the discs in your vertebrae may have thinned out for some reason, or you may have slipped a disk. Typically this is very painful, so you would probably know about it.

The other reason (which is related) is that you could have very low bone density in your spine, putting you in the range of osteopenia (moderate) or osteoporosis (more severe). If this applies to you, it could certainly have contributed to height loss. This is very rare for a young man, but it can be caused by certain things. One - low testosterone. Two - it could be induced by certain medications. I know steroids (not anabolic steroids, but stuff like prednisone) are known to lower bone density over long periods of time.

If I were you, I’d see a doctor and get a spinal X-ray done. See if there are any obvious issues with your spine, then address them. You should be able to regain some height.

Jdubbz said on 3/Jun/23
Dimplesncheeks5feet3 said on 1/Jun/23
I'm 5feet3. I'm not sure why,but often I get attitudes from people who are shorter than me at grocery stores. I'm talking like under 5feet tall. It really bothers me that someone who is shorter than me,acts like they can throw me across a grocery store. I am the same height as one of my favorite actors,Joe Pesci. If only I had the witty comebacks he has in films. Being as this just happened I wanted to post it.

Hmm, that’s a strange situation. Are you getting that kind of response from women or men? It could be that you carry yourself in a confident way and they’re (obviously insecure about their height) giving you attitude to feel better about themselves. Kind of like “Who do you think you are? You’re no better than I am - you’re short too.”

I could be way off though. Honestly, I’m not too sure why you’d get that sort of response. I’ve heard of short or below average people punching down at even shorter people, but never the other way around.

Jdubbz said on 3/Jun/23
@dreus23:

Look dude, I see where you’re coming from. It looks like I’m punching down with my response. That being said, this guy randomly insulted me for NO reason and very clearly said being tall is the only thing I have going for me. I don’t even know this guy and have never interacted with him before, and he comes at me like that?

Of course I responded in kind - he insulted me so I insulted him back. What exactly did I do to deserve it? In the past I’ve brought up how being very tall doesn’t suck (when certain posters insisted it does) and brought up some arguments as to why being my height can be desirable. Countless others have done the same, so why is it only bad when I do it? Because I’m tall?

Going back to his comment, you seriously think that all he did was mention me being tall? Did you miss this?

“Sad that your tall height is probably your only redeeming quality“

Sorry if I went overboard, but I’m not taking that insult lying down. If you think that makes me an asshole, whatever. Idgaf about using a guy’s insecurities against him when he randomly attacks me out of the blue. It’s fair game as far as I’m concerned. As the saying goes, people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

chad michaels said on 2/Jun/23
@Rob, how much do you think these shoes give in inches?
Click Here

Johan 185 cm said on 2/Jun/23
5'10.25" said on 30/May/23
@Johan185 But 178 cm isn't that far off 180 cm. If your talking about under 175 cm then I would agree yeah. In Germany average height is at least 177-178 cm and at most 181-182 cm according to most studies.

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From what I saw its around 178 cm. From my perspective thats a difference. 7 cm is very noticeable unlike in The Netherlands where alot of men are 182-183 cm. Thats not a real difference unless you actually measure with someone up close.

Ofc our perception is tied to our own heights, to me someone who is 181-182 cm is not short and neither is someone 188-189 cm tall. Its the same if i was to stand near a 192 cm guy, you would notice I am shorter, he would notice and I would notice.

And looking at heights measured in 5'10" countries , 6'1 is 88% percentile. Thats tall no doubt.

Baller7 said on 2/Jun/23
Hey everyone! Just curious if anyone here has experienced any height loss near their mid 20s? Ever since graduating from high school several years ago, I noticed that I'm not the same height as I was then. I'll admit that I'm not as physically active as I was back in high school. My posture isn't all that great either and I do experience some back pain from time to time, but I feel like it's not right or normal to lose height early. I told my doctor about it once and I wasn't satisfied with him basically brushing it off saying I shouldn't worry about it. I definitely feel and look a little bit shorter based on my own measurements over the years. I know we experience height loss as we age, but it definitely doesn't boost my confidence knowing I shrunk in height this early. When I put a lot of thought into it, it can honestly be somewhat depressing and even frustrating at times. Thanks in advance.

dreus23 said on 1/Jun/23
@Jdubbbz

Look, I know littlelee quite unjustifiably "started" it (for admittedly incomprehensible reasons) but chill out a bit. You're allowed to say whatever you want, but I frankly can't see anything constructive about basically roasting the guy and toying with his insecurities, especially as you clearly are aware of them

I would say he "deserved" it if it wasn't for the fact that you've, on multiple occassions, outright claimed that being tall is a desired trait. In other words you're smearing the guy's lack of desired traits in his face for... basically calling you tall? Something which you consider a positive trait? Pardon my confusion I guess

186cm said on 1/Jun/23
@Jdubbz
Well said.

5'10 Abdul said on 1/Jun/23
How tall is ‘Fedor Emelianenko’ ?

I think he is 181.5-182 cm.

@Rob will you consider adding Fedor?

5'10 Abdul said on 1/Jun/23
5'10.25" said on 1/Jun/23
Average in Canada is probably the same as UK, USA etc. Strong 5'9" to flat 5'10" (176-178 cm).
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Average male height in North America is 173-176 cm.

185cmJeff said on 1/Jun/23
Hi Rob,
I’ve measured myself for the first time since around near the start of the year, and after being awake for 6 hours and having been out in the garden mowing the grass and stuff I measured right after and I’m 185.5cm?! I’m 25, 26 next month. do you think it could be because I haven’t reached my low or maybe improvement in my posture? As around January I was holding 185cm for the whole day, just a bit confused lol.

Dimplesncheeks5feet3 said on 1/Jun/23
I'm 5feet3. I'm not sure why,but often I get attitudes from people who are shorter than me at grocery stores. I'm talking like under 5feet tall. It really bothers me that someone who is shorter than me,acts like they can throw me across a grocery store. I am the same height as one of my favorite actors,Joe Pesci. If only I had the witty comebacks he has in films. Being as this just happened I wanted to post it.

Jawilder said on 1/Jun/23
@ Adrian 6'0.9" I’d check this video out man. The guy even claims 6 foot himself 🤷🏼‍♂️.

Click Here

He’s max 6 feet. But I could give him that. Better chance a little under the mark than over.

5'10.25" said on 1/Jun/23
@Johan185 I agree yeah, 6'1"/185 cm in the Netherlands would feel exactly how a 5'11"/180 cm would feel in most European countries who average 177-178 cm; upper average range or 60-70th percentile.

5'10.25" said on 1/Jun/23
@adrian 6'2" is not significantly taller than 6'0" lol, he isn't 5'9" or less.

5'10.25" said on 1/Jun/23
Average in Canada is probably the same as UK, USA etc. Strong 5'9" to flat 5'10" (176-178 cm).

Alex 6'0 said on 31/May/23
Whatcaniclaim, to me strong 6'0 your low is over 6'0 still like 6'0 1/8-6'0.25.

Jdubbz said on 31/May/23
@Whatcaniclaim:

I think strong is defined as being around a quarter inch above a height at your low, so 60.25/183.5cm. You're basically right there, so I think you'd qualify as a strong 6 footer

Jdubbz said on 31/May/23
@littlelee1985:

Who the heck is this guy 😂? I swear you trolls are just popping out of thin air at this point. I'm sorry you're 5'6 - I can't imagine being a foot shorter than I am. You're 37 or 38 and that short while (I'm assuming) living in a western country? That's gotta suck. My dad is around 5'6 too, but he's over 60 years old and grew up in poverty in a 3rd world country. He was 5'7 at his peak and would have been much taller than that if he grew up like I did. What's your excuse?

Anyways, you're a foot shorter than me. Maybe more (given how insecure you are, I'm betting you're claiming morning height). That means you're at my shoulder level. Not my chin, my shoulder level. How does that make you feel? Angry? I'm not sure why you're lashing out at me when I've never even interacted with you before. Do you just have a bone to pick with tall guys?

You should seriously consider therapy. There is obviously a lot of pent up rage in that little body of yours, and you should find healthier ways to release it than by acting like a child on the internet. Envy is a terrible trait - be a better person than that.

rlheight5'11 said on 31/May/23
@Rob
Enjoying the nice weather? ☀️😎

rlheight5'11 said on 31/May/23
@Rob
I meant to say the celebheights data preferences tab.

Johan 185 cm said on 31/May/23
Alex 6'0 said on 28/May/23
Johan, so at almost 6'1 you feel pretty average in Netherlands? Makes sense since apparently the average man there is 184cm

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I think its the 5'11" guy experience in most other western countries. Above average but not tall yes. 183 cm seems to be the avg excluding the elderly.

Adrian 6'0.9" said on 31/May/23
@Jawilder There is a video of Cbum being measured to determine his weight cap for the most recent Olympia. From 17:40 of the video below, you can see him get on the stadiometer. The operator says “ 6’2 “. A few seconds later you can hear someone quietly say, “ Just under 6’2 “. Then he immediately gets on the scale and he can be seen to be barefoot. Admittedly, it’s not exactly clear whether or not he had shoes on for the measurement, but if not, it would appear that he’s significantly taller than the 6’ max you pegged him at. Even if he had slides, I’d say he’s still easily in weak 6’1 territory.

Click Here

rlheight5'11 said on 31/May/23
@Bobby
"oxymoronic and paradoxical" 😂

Arch Stanton said on 31/May/23
What happened to the search bar?? I can no longer see the cookies agreement thing either, which I think is related.

Arch Stanton said on 31/May/23
I remember thinking Carlsen looked about 5 ft 11, but I think some have said 5 ft 10. maybe somewhere between those and 179 is about right.

Whatcaniclaim? said on 30/May/23
What would you class as a strong 6 footer which height range? I’m 185cm in the morning and about 183.4cm evening. Walk around 183.7-184cm during the day

Progking185 said on 30/May/23
@Rapha yeah as Rob said it is solid tall, especially around 188/6'2. Here in Canada for guys its like 3.5-4.5 inches over average which is not standout but still pretty tall. You will be called tall at that height, where a few cm shorter at 183-185 range is more start of tall range not as noticeable.

Andrew K said on 30/May/23
Hey Rob,

I get up at 174 cm (5’8.5) and get down to 172.3-172.3 cm at night (5’7.75). Would I be considered a solid 5’8? Or weak 5’8?

littlelee1985 said on 30/May/23
Jdubbs I'm a five six inch man. Does that make you feel big knowing I'd be below your chin? Sad that your tall height is probably your only redeeming quality. And I certainly wouldn't be under your shoulders if both barefoot. Just below your chin not below your shoulders unless you like a pair of heels

5'10.25" said on 30/May/23
@Johan185 But 178 cm isn't that far off 180 cm. If your talking about under 175 cm then I would agree yeah. In Germany average height is at least 177-178 cm and at most 181-182 cm according to most studies.

5'10.25" said on 30/May/23
@Bobby Saying this forum has a low IQ is a bit of an generalisation, don't you think? Anyway it doesn't matter...

Rockaway said on 30/May/23
6’0 is the start of tall in the US

Adrian 6'0.9" said on 30/May/23
I’ve been watching a lot of chess lately. I wonder what you guys think of Magnus Carlsen? I’d peg him around 5’10 at first glance. Maybe 179. Just a rough first impression

Sandy Cowell said on 30/May/23
@ Alex and Johan - If I went to the Netherlands for a proper visit, I reckon the men would look like trees in a forest! I travelled through the entire country by train as an under-10 with my Mum in order to get to Germany, looking out of the window all the time. There were windmills dotted about everywhere and I saw a few people wearing clogs.

Cheers you trees! 🇳🇱🌷

Jawilder said on 29/May/23
@ Gian 181cm Wrong. Cbum is 6 feet max. 5’11.75 is a good height for him tho I can see the full 6 feet sometimes.

5'10.25" said on 29/May/23
@Alex 6'0 It's not 184 cm and it was never measured at 184 cm. Some studies say 183 cm range, some 181 cm.

5'7 and a fraction said on 29/May/23
@Jdubbz
Yeah, no worries. I can definitely relate to that.

Alex 6'0 said on 28/May/23
Johan, so at almost 6'1 you feel pretty average in Netherlands? Makes sense since apparently the average man there is 184cm

Jdubbz said on 28/May/23
@5'7 and a fraction:

Apology accepted, and I'm sorry for being snippy with you. I wasn't having a great day when I wrote that and I interpreted your comment as being more insulting than it really was.

Nirvana said on 28/May/23
Hello Rob, Im 5ft 11 in the morning, and Im 5ft 10.5 at low. What would you claim if you were me?

Poster said on 27/May/23
@Bobby & Jdubbz: The blatant dishonesty bugs. Jdubbz said that 5'5 women seemed short TO HIM, and I said that 5'2 women likely were seen as tallish IN SOME REGIONS OF CENTRAL AMERICA AND SOUTHEAST ASIA. The white knights are just as irritating. It's not a big deal by itself, but it's illustrative of things, in the real world, that are.

5'10.25" said on 27/May/23
@Emil I tend to think northernes are taller and similar genetically to the dutch/danes, southeners are shorter and genetically similar to austrians. But from my experience the average in the south is 178 cm and in the north 181 cm, I've been to Germany two times.

rlheight5'11 said on 27/May/23
@Rob
Data preferences tab looks a bit different on my device.

adrianjacobs said on 27/May/23
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5
Move to Stockholm then

Darksol64 said on 27/May/23
@ Johan

That sounds about right for the taller countries like Netherlands. The height calculator I use says the exact average there is 5'11 and 1/3. That means the average man is almost a weak 6 ft. That would feel really funny to visit when you live somewhere where the average guy is 5'8.

Where my height of strong 187 would be around top 94% in the USA, I'd imagine it would be somewhere around 75% in the tallest countries. 70% at the worst, in busy places I could likely feel only slightly above average at times.

Henrik said on 27/May/23
@jokey

I agree. This subject is hardly worth releasing the blood pressure over, lol.

5'7 and a fraction said on 27/May/23
Jdubbz said on 25/May/23
@5’7 and a fraction:

Sorry, what? You thought I was “disrespecting” women in my comments? Literally the worst thing I said to Charline was that she was acting like a little girl, yet you glossed over the fact that she insulted half the female gender numerous times? Just because I’m a guy?

I understand you made a mistake here, but you should seriously read an exchange (instead of skimming it) before jumping in, otherwise you just look like an absolute fool.


Okay, but there's also no need for name calling mate. I was trying to be apologetic there, you didn't really need the last phrase there. I was aware of the insulting things that Charline was saying about women under 5'2, but maybe I was a bit too quick to address you personally based on my misunderstanding and should've also acknowledged what Charline was saying as well. Again, my apologies.

Emil said on 27/May/23
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5

5'11 isn't uncommon for young women in Scandinavia, but it's still around the 95% percentile. 6 foot is pretty much 2 SD above average, and +6'2 is 3 SD.

I live in Copenhagen and I see 1-2 women who are my height or a little taller than me almost daily - at midday I'm usually 6'0.25-6'0.5"

5'7 and a fraction said on 27/May/23
Jdubbz said on 25/May/23
@5’7 and a fraction:

Sorry, what? You thought I was “disrespecting” women in my comments? Literally the worst thing I said to Charline was that she was acting like a little girl, yet you glossed over the fact that she insulted half the female gender numerous times? Just because I’m a guy?

I understand you made a mistake here, but you should seriously read an exchange (instead of skimming it) before jumping in, otherwise you just look like an absolute fool.


Okay, but there's also no need for name calling mate.