General Height

Please use this page as a 'free for all' forum to talk about height in general. Stuff like average heights in countries, how height affects your job and how people perceive height etc or any suggestions for new heights or height quotes you find for stars not already added to the site. If you want to request a height to be added, please use the Height Request page.

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Greg said on 23/Jun/19
@WatchYourBack yeah .5cm is hard to notice so you can claim 5’11 or 180cm if in metric if you hit rhat as a low what’s your morning height? 181/182? I claim 180 as that’s my out of bed height. And I’m 179ish afternoon.

@Kaysan Yeah I was undermeasured at the docs by a bit due to being on carpet I think by half an inch.
Greg said on 23/Jun/19
@Kerem have you been growing? I feel like every other time you post you are taller lol yeah you can.
Delvin chung said on 23/Jun/19
Do guys shrink more during the day than girls on average ?
Arslan 6'10 210 CM said on 23/Jun/19
This could just be the inaccuracies of the embedded height scale in some pictures (for a best example, in Tim Hopper’s page) or just me, but many of the celebrities have their hair included in their heights. Hopper is a gooe example of this, where the 6’5 mark is truly above even his hair making him look 6’3 max top of head to toe
Luca said on 22/Jun/19
Dear Rob, sorry if I seem repetitive, but I'm really doubtful about my height and I'd like to know your definitive opinion about it...
Specifically I usually measure about 191.25 cm out of bed, but after a long night of sleep I've reached sometimes 191.5 cm;my usual low is about 189,2 cm;my absolute low is 188,85 cm.
How can I honestly claim about myself?
Editor Rob
If you are sure that your method of measuring is reasonable (flat floor and wall, object on top of your head), then it's safe to go with about 189cm.
Kerem said on 22/Jun/19
I am 196cm out of bed so that I can easily say I am 194cm?
Greg said on 22/Jun/19
@Phrygian When you say people don’t believe you do you mean they inflate you or argue you’re shorter? Most people lie or don’t know how tall a certain height truly is, you’re about 1cm taller than me I am 180cm Morning and 178ish at a low and most people guess me to be taller than I am however I’ve had a few people try to argue about my claim. I know a lot of guys between 173-188 Who lie about their height. Most guys who are an inch or two shorter than us claim our range that might be when someone hears someone who’s honest like me or you even if we round up they will most likely hit us with the good ole “ oh you can’t be 5’10/5’11 you’re at least 6’0-6’1” or something ignorant like that. I think with any range it’s common to hear guys exaggerate during common conversation. Truthfully I can’t recall the last time somebody hasn’t claimed their height in shoes or a false height they can’t even measure close to.
Rick1 said on 22/Jun/19
@avi / Johan 185 cm

Not entirely true, yes diet/hormones are a factor but i read from numerous sources that in the Netherlands the most fertile men were seven centimetres above the average height.... and had on average nearly .3 more children than men of average height - with women of average and not short height, in the UK and the US its very common to see a very tall man with a petite woman; from what i have seen in the Netherlands and read it does not appear to be as common. As you mentioned we can inherit from our grandparents, and even great grandparents. An example being of the reverse is that in the US the average height has decreased (very slightly) in the last 20 years , most likely due to immigration.
Greg said on 21/Jun/19
@Adrian 184 Yeah man I’m a Fitness Enthusiast I follow most of those channels, Greg O Gallagher would be a nice listing maybe if enough of us repeat it Rob might cave in and add him 😝 we can only hope but he claims 5’10, generally though to me he looks 5’9.5, I know he got measured at 177cm or 5’9.75” but idk next to 5’8 Listed Damn bilzerian he looked just 1.5 inches taller which even then Dan could be 5’7.75” if not shorter but I don’t see Greg Measuring Anything under 5’9.5. He could be a guy who wakes up around 5’10.25 or 5’10.1 and drops to 5’9.5-.6. Next to 6’0 Nicky Romero who might actually be 5’11.2-5’11.5 range he looked 5’9 range. Now Omar Isuf seems and looks honest about his almost 5’10 5’9.5 claim. I think he could be 5’9 5/8ths maybe? See the thing with JujiMufu is I find it hard to believe he’s only 5’10, he’s always claimed 5’11 and I know the one quote of him in an interview saying 5’10 but he’s always said 5’11 even for a Dexa Scan he told the nurse he was 5’11, maybe he’s 5’11 in the mornings and 5’10.25 at night like me? Probably a 5’10.5 guy who rounds up and down but I’ve always seen him claim 5’11. Haven’t watched the Colab but I’ll check it out. Is he wearing boots? I seen Omar wear these massive boots before and somebody stupidly asked him if he was taller than his claim or his friend was shorter because his friend claimed 5’10 and he edged him in boots so idk it was a while back. Now you know Juji’s friend Nick in his videos? He always claims 5’11 but doesn’t look much taller than Juji, like 1/4-1/2th if that. They did a video where they where measuring arm spans his is long like mine 188cm or 6’2, but when they where measuring them they did it wonky with a tape behind their heads, not under a stadiometer or can against the wall. They got 5’11 for Nick which I didn’t even see him much taller than Juji if at all they looked the same height he had really thick hair it reminded me of a Gylenhaal styled measurement where Jake was under 5’11 but Conan still gave it to him. Anyways yeah I’m curious because guys like Freezma claim 5’11 and he looks similar to Jeff Seid. Jeff is listed as 5’9.5 here but I always thought he could be 5’10. Freezma did a Dexa Scan as well and during the stadiometer part it was an electronic one but he didn’t show the measurement which is suspicious maybe he is shorter than his claim. I’m always curious about Fitness Youtuber heights how about Mike Thurston how tall do you think he might be? He claims 5’11 I think he looks close to it but he could be a tad under. Also Maxx Chewning Claims 5’10 but looks 5’9.5ish and his brother Chase Claims 5’11 but often looks just about an inch or so taller maybe .75 of an inch.
Greg said on 21/Jun/19
@Bego yeah I mean considering at least 7-10 guys across my friend group are well over 6’0. At my college same thing a few 6 footers by not as much as at my gym. My gym has a lot of tall guys it’s insane, you’ll walk in there and immediately notice that many tall guys go there I want to say that the average height at my gym can be 5’11 sometimes. I believe there used to be a woman my height who went but she hasn’t gone in a while. I typically see at least a few guys 6’0 or taller as I am going about my day.
Greg said on 21/Jun/19
@Avi Nice man yeah basically almost the same thing as me just a few different Roots. I’m not sure why they measured my height maybe because it was my first time at the place so they took my height and weight. Your right I’m extremely obsessed with height! I’ve always been this always but I think it’s gotten more extreme as the years went on haha, hence why I’m a regular on this website. I always wanted to be 6’0 that was like a dream for me, ever since middle school and some guys in my grade where already teaching that height and taller. There used to be this really tall African American kid I believe in my 6th grade who was like 6’0/6’1 they called him the “6’0 sixth grader” I was extremely jealous.. i think he is now 6’4 or something? His parents weren’t even that tall. it sucks genetics cut me off before I could reach it let alone 6’2. Yeah I know what you mean though even if I don’t measure I will still be obsessed with height.

@Sakz Yep society views tall people as powerful, wealthy, confident and women want tall children so that’s why why prefer to go after taller guys and such. I think that being kind of tall without standing out is the way to go.
WatchYourBack said on 21/Jun/19
Can I claim "180cm flat" if I'm 179.5cm before bed?
Greg said on 21/Jun/19
@Kayson it’s not a big issue if you fall below 5’9, if youre 5’8.5 Mid day you can claim 5’9 and not get called out as long as you’re not claiming to be 5’10 you’re fine. I’m 5’10.5” and I claim 5’11 without any issues a half inch practically not noticeable.
avi said on 21/Jun/19
@Bryan Wong said on 19/Jun/19

I think most men would like to be 6'0 to 6'3 area with most saying 6'1-6'2.

I am almost 6'0 and to me it's not really that great or what it's cracked up to be.

I can see a solid 6'1 being ideal to most men.
Remember it's not just height itself. There are 6'2 guys who can look barely 6'0 due to proportions and weight.

There is one guy who is probably 6'1 weak 6'2 at my work who has a huge head and his frame is just bulky. He gives a 5'11-6'0 impression.

So I rather be 5'11-6'0 than 6'4 and have a big head and bad proportions.
Kaysan said on 21/Jun/19
How much does carpet affect height measurement because one time in the afternoon I got measured at 5'8.5 but that is not good spot to measure?
Editor Rob
There's a chance you could undermeasure your height on a carpet, depends how thick it is really.
Greg said on 21/Jun/19
@Importer@Johan I believe the average person loses 1.5cm-2.5cm but some more or less. There was somebody on here who said they lose 4-5 cms not sure how credible that is they also mentioned they have a damaged disc.
Johan 185 cm said on 21/Jun/19
Importer said on 19/Jun/19
@Johan 185cm
I don't think everybody loses a full 2cm from morning to evening, 1-1.5cm is not totally out of the question.


Never known anyone who loses only 1-1.5cm over the course of a whole day. Your out of bed height is usually 1cm more than your early morning (9am )height, gravity works that quickly.
Myself said on 21/Jun/19
@C.J Camp
I am pretty much exactly 4 inches shorter than you but my inseam is about 35! Meaning that we have the same torso length?! (Wtf?)
I wear XL-XXL too btw, but I think it's either you that have very long legs or just me with a huge torso, but I think the former.
Interestingly enough, other than getting guessed 2 meters sometimes, a doctor guessed me as high as multiple centimeters over 2 meters (lol).
Btw, what is your eye level? I think it's people your height that start having 5" foreheads more often.
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 20/Jun/19
@Bryan Wong

Well, mathematically, that's 181.5cm, so let's round that up to 182cm.
Kaysan said on 20/Jun/19
The thing is that people say 5'8.5 is 5'8 but I say 5'9 because when I relax and watch YouTube then I measure close to 5'9.
Canson said on 20/Jun/19
@CJ Camp: that’s normal for someone your size. I have a 6’7” friend who today at 40 years old loses around 3/4-7/8 each day. He said his out of bed is between 6’7 3/4-7/8 but in the afternoon a normal low for him is 6’7” flat. Not sure about extreme lows or if he was slightly taller at his peak but I’ve know him since high school and he was 6’7” then always about 3” taller than me. I’m 37 and I’m 6’4.25 at a low usually 193.8 if I don’t hit the gym and 193.6-.7 if I do and 6’5 1/16 approximately out of bed. Then I have a 6’6” friend who loses up to an inch max. He said that he hit 6’7 out of bed or 6’6 7/8-6’7 and usually is 6’6-6’6 1/8. When I measured both they were right on the nose at 6’6 flat and 6’7” flat at last check
Jdubbz said on 20/Jun/19

Well I haven’t grown a mm in nearly 2 months, so yea it’s safe to say I capped out at 197cm lol. I agree that at or above a half it’s fair game to round up, but I don’t feel the need tbh. Hell, I’ve started messing with people and saying that I’m 6’3 lol
Adrian 184 said on 20/Jun/19

I see you’re interested in kinobody and other fitness youtubers. Im assuming you know omarisuf. Who do you think would have the edge? Omar claims “almost 5’10” and other times 5’9. I think it would actually be even. I think it would be a great collab on a side note.. Also, I saw Omar edge out jujimufu in their recent collab, but he did have footwear advantage.

I don’t see why it’s so hard for all these guys to just do an aerosol measurement on camera and put the debate to rest. As long as it’s after a few hours, nobody would really get morning height advantage. I guess some may lose a cm if they measure after a heavy workout as opposed to before, but that is minimal compared to the 2-3 inch inflations by some. What’s your take on this
Canson said on 20/Jun/19
@Jdubbz: I think 6’5 1/2 for you is good. I know if I were like 6’4 5/8 at a low as opposed to 6’4.25, I would still claim 6’4 1/2”. I even round down to 6’4 today. I never claim 6’4 1/2 anymore since I’m 6’4.25. As far as 6’9, I get 6’6 or 6’7 on occasion because people just don’t know how tall they are or someone else is. I even get 6’5 by some that push their height up 1/2-3/4”.
Bego said on 20/Jun/19
@James Edward Crowley I often come across females 180cm and over, there was a girl i saw who edged me out couple of days ago and yesterday saw a group of 4 of them who appeared 185cm.
Jiggity said on 20/Jun/19
My father is 5'11 and change, I am 22 and grew a quarter inch this year at 6'0.5 and just shay of 6' at night. Any chance I'll still grow a bit more?
Lell said on 20/Jun/19
I remember my friend when he said that a guy in his class was 6'11". Another guy I know is in the same class and I measured him last year once for fun as he's known as the tall guy. Back then he was a little over 194 cm, almost 195 and he said "I'm tall, but if you're his height you're gonna get problems."

I was a little bit amazed as the tallest person I knew said that about him, but upon seeing the dude, don't get me wrong he was really tall and wide, but definitely not 6'11". More like 6'6". So that's an example of how people like to overexaggarate a tall person's height to make them seem taller.
Bryan Wong said on 19/Jun/19
Hi guys between the range of 178cm to 185cm, what would be the start of an aesthetically pleasing height ?
avi said on 19/Jun/19
@Chris brady said on 17/Jun/19

A little over 6 feet in morning.
I probably lose .6 - .7 inch throughout the day on average.
So maybe 6'0.3 in morning and 5'11.7 5'11.6 at night.
I need to do another morning measurement height.

I've been doing some stretches and will see if this helps keep me above the 5'11.6 mark. I am fairly sure sitting in the chair at work for 8+ hours has effected me a bit. Not height "loss" but
some decompression.
Importer said on 19/Jun/19
@Johan 185cm
I don't think everybody loses a full 2cm from morning to evening, 1-1.5cm is not totally out of the question.
Bego said on 19/Jun/19
@Greg Is 6ft and over daily encounter in your place?
Phrygian said on 19/Jun/19
I'm a weak 5'11 (181 in the morning and 179 at night) and every other person I speak doubts my claim. Is this something that is common for this height range?
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 19/Jun/19

When I was in Greece, particularly Athens, back in the summer of 2017, I would say the average of a young Greek male in thick crowds such as a concert would have been 5'9 and on the street, even less than that. Maybe 5'7. I felt moderately above average to just over average at 5'10 or 177/178 range. Keep in mind also, that I am ethnically Greek myself. So, it's interesting to compare height in that respect too, how would an Italian American fair to a native born Italian height wise? I'm also not sure if a cold climate has any effect on growth or not, I'm thinking that it may, but then there are people who grow to be over 6'0 living in Russia, so, maybe not.
elfulte said on 19/Jun/19
@Canson @Jdubbz Yes I know I'm closer to 6'5" but I wish I was simply 6'5" the whole time so it would be easier to know my height even though I suppose many people have the same issue. I've measured myself a few more time and I'm actually around 195.20-195.10 CM at night barefoot which would be around 6'4.80" at night.

Anyway thanks for the recommendation!
cmillz said on 19/Jun/19
Are you done growing? I guess you maxed out at 197cm? That’s one hell of a late growth either way, lol.

And personally, I think rounding up to the full number if you’re at the half inch mark at your low is fair game. But if you want to claim the half, that’s fine too.
C.J Camp said on 18/Jun/19
I am usually 6ft9 flat out of bed, though sometimes I have measured almost 6ft9.25 on a good day. (I'm slightly taller than 6ft7 and seven eights at my absolute lowest, given that it's only a couple of mm, I call it 6ft8) So I generally lose an inch give or take a few mm. It's enough to notice that doorframes seem slightly lower in the morning. Also, I'm very long torsoed, having to wear XL shirts and coats, I have a very wide frame and big proportions, such as having size 18 feet (though I have some boots that are labeled 16 but clearly bigger than that), but I also have a 39 in inseam, so I'm long legged too. But despite these facts, I don't lose a crazy amount during the day. It's certainly not noticeable to normal sized people. I've heard some people say guys like me or taller can lose up to 2 in in one day which I just can't imagine.
Sakz said on 18/Jun/19
@Greg I'm not surprised some people 6'0+ say they want to be taller, since it can be one of those things where you always want a bit more especially because being tall is viewed as a positive. Unless you have a cut off point then you'll probably want to be taller. I'm with you though in that 6'3 would be my limit, though I generally tend to go with a range rather than a specific height so anything within that is my preference.

@Johan 185 cm You make an interesting point. I will say though that back in the days 6'0 for example was easily considered tall, whereas nowadays with the average being slightly higher in some countries maybe not quite as much. On the whole though unless the average greatly increases that's not likely to change much.
avi said on 18/Jun/19
@Johan 185 cm said on 17/Jun/19

Yes that's what I have said too.
The human body is designed to be between 5 and 6 feet roughly. Maybe give or take an inch.

So I agree that average will never be more than 6 foot or so.

A lot of height too nowadays is influenced by diet, prenatal care and the excess of hormones in our food.
There is also a study linking height to cancer. I am wondering if deviating outside of norm (5 to 6 foot) the risk of more issues become prevalent.

I think 6'1 is still ok. Once you hit 6'2 you'd be solid tall and really start to be outside of the normal human height range.
Just like most things in life there is a limit and optimal range to be in.


I am more Western Slavic (Polish). Also German and like you mixed with other European descent.

I don't think anyone in my family was over 6'2-6'3 and that would be great grandfather and great uncle.

And yes the problem with the formulas are they account for "regressing towards the mean" where they think a really tall father and really short mother will have a child that is about average.
A lot of times the child may inherit directly from grandfather or father so mother's height has no bearing on the child in that situation.

But yes we both could have been way worse off.

And I have tested with .75 and .5 insoles.
Putting in a .5 (really gives .3 tops I think) gives just that slight edge. I out it in boots (maybe give 1.25) so it's like I'm a strong 6 foot guy.
At 6'2 I wouldn't be wearing them :)

Also that's weird how they measure you at the allergist. After 21 my experience is that doctors don't measure height unless you don't know it or ask them too.

I just tell them my height now because I don't trust their stadiometer or if they round it down/up.
I also try not to measure too much anyway as it causes anxiety and can become obsessive.
James Edward Crowley said on 18/Jun/19
Rob how often do you see women who are 5ft 10in and over in public like,I was in lidl like one monday,and the woman i saw was over 5ft 10in she was 5ft 11in barefoot it's not often you see women that height in public you go out in public everyday without seeing any women over 5ft 10in.
Editor Rob
Every day I might see a few women near that range if I'm at shopping centre for an hour or so...but it's a very small percentage relatively speaking.
The greater volume of public you see, the chances increase of seeing very tall women.
Importer said on 17/Jun/19
How tall do you really think Ian Fleming was Rob? At this point it interests me because he listed his character of James Bomd at 6ft in the books which was supposedly his own height and looks. I'm eager to view your comment on this. Thanks.
Editor Rob
Well in a book about him it mentioned how Blanche Blackwell called him "six foot two inches tall" though the author says "She managed to overstate his height by two inches".

No doubt he was 6ft at least.
Canson said on 17/Jun/19
@elfulte: I personally would claim 6’5 or about 6’5. You won’t look 6’4 at that height
HonestSlovene said on 17/Jun/19
@c-mo There is also 1 study which mentions Greek males at 175 cm, the other one is 178 cm but for young males.
Jdubbz said on 17/Jun/19
@C.J Camp:

I’m not as tall as you, but still pretty tall at 6’5 1/2 give or take. I often get “I have a cousin your height” or weirdly enough “I have a cousin who is 6’9”. It’s always 6’9 for some reason lol
Jdubbz said on 17/Jun/19

195cm at night, I’d go with 6’5. You’re much closer to 6’5 than 6’4 at your low, and throughout the day you’d be right around 6’5. It’s tougher for guys who fall around the half inch mark to decide on a claim I think. I’m 197cm/6’5.6 at night, but 6’6 sounds too tall and I think I’m too far from it to claim it. Then again, I’m well above 6’5, so that’s not exactly accurate either.
irish5ft16 said on 17/Jun/19
Hi Rob. I seem to measure 6ft4.5 in morning and 6Ft4.25 at night. Shouldn't I be lower at night as i am very active and wouldnt shy away from heavy lifting and also im in my mid thirties
Chris brady said on 17/Jun/19
@ Avi Do you measure six foot in the morning dude?
Myself said on 17/Jun/19
C.J Camp
How much do you lose out of bed to your lowest?
I think it's generally overestimated the amount of height an extremely tall person can lose on average. My prediction is that whereas average people lose 1.8-1.9 cm, when someone goes past 6'2 and closer to 7 feet, the loss would be about 2-2.5 cm on average. Imo even a 7 footer wouldn't lose 3 cm on average, but I could be wrong (not talking about extreme lows though).
Myself said on 17/Jun/19
6'5 or 6'4.75 if wanting to be specific.
Johan 185 cm said on 17/Jun/19
The reason even the tallest countries seem to peak around 180 cm is because this seems to be the maximum humans can be before they are tall. I was reading a medical journal and according to specialists the human body wasn't meant to grow much more than 180 cm. They classify anything over that as tall.

It would also explain the various stats and percentiles of height not varying that greatly the taller you get.

For example guys who are 5'9"-5'11" can vary greatly in percentile but the guys who are 6'1-6'3" seem to hold onto their percentile no matter if the average is 5'10" or 5'11". Only in shorter countries does it make some difference pushing the taller guys higher than 90%.

I was amused by this because in the Netherlands we have an average somewhere in 5'11" range and yet 6'1" range is still almost 80th percentile.

In other words I don't see the average going higher than 6foot (183cm) ever unless only tall people start having babies.
HonestSlovene said on 17/Jun/19
@Yoshin Sounds about right, all of the height studies in Sweden place the male average between 179 cm and 182 cm. I'd say it's around 181 cm for the younger crowd and 180 cm overral.
Greg said on 17/Jun/19
@C-mo you must have a lot of people inflate where you live, I know that a lot of my friends/ people that I come across inflate too whether it’s by accident or intentionally (probably a combination of both). I’m like between 179/180cm however you want to view it and I’m guessed anywhere from 5’10-6’2 the 6’2 guesses came from really short girls I was still surprised. I get 6’0 from time to time and 5’11 which is basically my morning height. You’re right that some people can’t guess height although even before I was on CH I would be able to guess height based on my height so if I know I’m like 5’10.5 in the noon I would never guess a guy shorter than me at 5’11. I have a friend who’s exactly your height give or take a fraction and he claims to be 5’11/180cm. My friends think we are the same height yet I know I have the edge.

@Myself I mean it was a little irritating but not a big deal as I’m sure their office didn’t really care it was for an allergist specialist not a doctor. The nurse was also a lot shorter than me maybe close to 5’0/5’1, but the stadiometer was just sitting on a carpet not a thick one but still enough to under measure by a fraction, I’m not sure if it was set up properly I’m assuming it was but I had lose posture. At least she told me to take off my shoes, I’ve been measured in shoes where the people told me to keep them on them they tried to estimate my height sometimes they got it right other times wrong it was like one of those ones with a thicker top part not the SECA Rob uses.

@Avi well yeah it all varies so not everyone is going to have the same thing. And I’m not sure how tall I was at 2 I would have to go check my height chart. I had a great uncle who was 6’6, I’m kind of Slavic decent too, Russian, Ukrainian and German with some other ethnicities mixed in between. My dad was around 5’11ish peak. Most Calculators said I would be like 5’9ish, so I did better than that. Yeah sometimes those things can be wrong I mean you’re lucky in terms that you have a good height even if it’s only an inch taller I think the closer to 6’0 the better if not 6’0 exact, that’s why I am surprised when guys here who are 6’+ wanna be taller and say they wear lifts and stuff, etc.6’2 would be nice too but I don’t think I would ever wanna be taller than that maybe 6’3 but that’s pushing it.
Kaysan said on 16/Jun/19
How much height do Nike air zoom pegus 35 add when I'm 5'9?
Editor Rob
They'll put you in 5ft 10 range, but not 10.25
Luca said on 16/Jun/19
P. S Rob, i finally discovered that the other stuff I used to measure myself was not perpendicular and that the aerosol can/box method is still the most accurate.
Luckily still a legit 189 cm :)
C.J Camp said on 16/Jun/19
I figured this would be the best place to bring this up, I'm not sure how many fellow giants there are on this site, but I'm exactly 6'8" on the dot barefoot at my very lowest, and that's what I claim though I may look more like a 6'9"-ish guy most of the day. I'm from USA, Duck doorways every day, have to wear size 18 EE shoes. I'm bombarded with pretty dumb questions and comments everyday, but one thing that I find particularly amusing is that just about every person who stops to ask me about my size either has a son/nephew/uncle/friend who is 6'10 plus. I have had a few random (short) people recently tell me about some relative they have that is 7'5 - 7'6 in height!! All I could do is laugh, and felt like quipping "you must have Yao Ming as a nephew." Has any fellow tall guys out there had people go on and on about their supposed Giant friends? When people tell me this stuff everyday, I can't help but laugh and say "ooookay, that's cool....!" It's like where are all these 7 ft+ giants at lol? I have only met one person taller than me ever, and he WAS actually every bit of 6'10." Never seen anybody else that tall except for on TV. I've seen even basketball players up close who are listed at my height, yet strangely, shorter than I am. Does anybody else deal with these tall people annoyances?
Luca said on 16/Jun/19
Dear Rob, I'm really confused.
Recently I've been measuring myself with different objects, getting a result's difference of several mms.
Using a box or the aerosol can I got the same results as always, while using other objects (like a 45 degree ruler) I got several mms of difference, In most of the cases in lack...
So, overall, what should I consider as the most accurate and true measurement? I'm so confused!!
Editor Rob
With a set square, you have to make sure it's bang in the middle (or near enough) of your head as if it's off centre, there's a chance it knocks 1-2mm from your height.
Nik said on 16/Jun/19
@ avi - Thanks for that! I often see more short people than people who are tall or average in height!
Myself said on 16/Jun/19
lol that must've been frustrating; the stadiometer was angled away from you, so that the part that should touch your head was angled towards the roof/sky?
What did you tell them?
Yoshin said on 16/Jun/19
For those curious about Sweden's average height, Statistics Sweden - or SCB - releases survey of living conditions almost every year and in there you can find Sweden's BMI statistics which also happen to include data on the population's mean stature by age groups.

In 2016-2017 it was,

16 - 24 180.9cm

25 - 34 180.6cm

35 - 44 180.7cm

Click Here

I'm not sure if these are measured height tho; if they are self-reported, then the mean height for the young Swedish population might be closer to 180 than 181.
elfulte said on 16/Jun/19
Hey guys if I'm 195 CM at night barefoot what height should I tell I am? 6'4" or 6'5"? According to a couple of sites that would be 6'4.77" so I don't know if I should say 6'4" or simply round up to 6'5" since it's quite close to 6'5"
avi said on 15/Jun/19
@Greg said on 15/Jun/19

yes it was slow though. As you can see it was basically spurts of half inches or .25 inches over the course of 5-6 years or so (17 to 22). Really after that spurt from 15 to 16.5 I slowed.
It's weird because based on my parents heights (the formula to predict height) I'm like 5'8ish but I was 36.75 when I was 2 and they say if you add that it gives you an idea of adult height but obviously I'm sure it can be off 2-3 inches at least.
I was predicted at 6'1-6'2 based on that.
I think I was growing at the rate of someone who would be at least 6'0.
I wonder if me only growing from 5'6 to 5'7 was "caught up" later from 18 to 21 area as body hit potential. Who knows.

And I'm not that lucky, I feel the same when looking at a guy 6'1-6'2. So there is always someone bigger and "luckier".
You at 5'10.5 are basically same as me probably only an inch between us.
We are both guys who will never be 6'1-6'2 area which we so desire and must accept it.
I think too if I was even more active at 11 to 15 I would have gotten another inch maybe 2 if I modified diet and did stretches.
Genetics are interesting. Maybe it would not have mattered much no matter what I tried to do to influence it. My body may have been programmed to be 5'11 to 6'0 area and that's it (give or take .5 or something).i was told my dad's father was around 5'11 and I have Slavic descent as well.

So we can't worry about it. Being in the Western world we sure aren't malnutritioned where it would affect height more than 1-2 inches I think...
chuu207 said on 15/Jun/19
Can you still grow at 24?

Hey guys, I'd like to know if it's possible to still grow at 24, I don't know, back when I was 21-23 I used to measure myself a lot and I kind of knew what was my height through the day. After measuring me so many times I realized right before going to sleep (at night) my height was around 194-195 CM which would be 6'4" - 6'4.5" or something like that.

Last night after almost a year without measuring me I decided to measure myself, it was very late, like 3 AM so I grabbed a tape measure and I proceeded to measure myself and I was a bit surprised with the results because as I said, I had already measured myself many many many times and I always got the same height but this time it was a bit different, I got 195.5 CM, I found it weird and I thought maybe it I didn't measure myself correctly but then I did it again and I still got the same height. Today I measured myself after like 4 hours after waking up and I got 196 CM.

Those who know a lot about this topic, do you guys know if it's possible to still grow at 24?
c-mo said on 15/Jun/19
@Greg I am 176cm in the evening and have been guessed as 180cm a lot . but always by men . women never guess my height . I do think I could claim 180cm and get away with it to many people . not to celebheight members obviously ;) but trust me people are bad in judging height and because of all the height lies people have a wrong image of heights . they will think a guy my height is 180cm and a 180cm guy is 184cm etc


you are saying that young greek men were measured at 178cm and that it was probably a morning measurement so how can you say that the average will be strong 175cm range ? . thats not possible . when the greek guys woke up it probably took minimum 1 hour if not more like 2-3 hours until they went there to get measured and by that time you already lose easily 1cm . so they cant go down to 175cm range . 177cm or MAYBE strong 176cm range is more realistic but not 175cm range lol
Greg said on 15/Jun/19
@Myself interesting how he was measured an inch taller at the doctors, maybe the surface was slanted upwards or down or it could have been on carpet I know I was under measured before at the Doctors because they had a carpet on which the stadiometer was on and it was sinking inwards so they got me like .5-.6 of an inch shorter than what I would measure at home on a flat tile surface can against the wall however.

@HonestSlovene, lol Arthur’s statements are laughable he is just trying to prove Bobby wrong in every way he can whilst failing to do so, the average in Young Greece can’t be 5’11, there’s just no way, Greeks are around the same height on average as Albanians, Turks etc. Those where probably early morning or in shoe measurements most likely if that. I wouldn’t expect the average to be much over 5’9 if at all.
Kapp said on 15/Jun/19
I may be very subjective and perceptions may be far from truth but Greeks seemed to me shorter than other South Europeans as well(obviously other than Central/Northern Europeans) average did seem easily a few inches below 180cm. In fact, 180cm would be the start of tall range there as opposed to it being only tallish in the US or the UK.
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 15/Jun/19

I appreciate the well-constructed response and because we share the same heritage and ethnic background I don't want to fight with you either. Perhaps you are correct in your assessments but I attended a concert while in Athens, and even witnessed the changing of the royal guard in Syntagma. There was another guy standing next to me who seemed to have an inch and change on me, so was 5'11 range, but other than that, I was the taller one in the crowd but everyone else there was likely tourists or non-Greek. I felt above average in Athens next to other Greek youth that I saw, but at the concert I felt bang on average height or slightly above. Two other guys were standing next to me, the one guy looked to be 183 or so, I didn't feel much shorter, and the guy next to him was shorter than I was, possibly 5'8-5'9. I'd say the average all-around is 5'9 for Greek males.
HonestSlovene said on 15/Jun/19
@Arthur! LOL Greek average for younger males was documented at 178 cm, and this was probably an early morning measurement so the average is most likely strong 175 cm range or 176-177 cm. If it was 180 cm, then it would be comparable to Scandinavian or some central european countries. Even young Germans according to documents average 180 cm AT MOST in urban areas and 178 cm in rural areas.
Greg said on 15/Jun/19
@C-mo the only issue with that is if he comes across a woman who’s actually like 5’9, especially 5’10 or 5’11 she will call him out if he’s claiming 5’11, if he’s 5’9.5 and says 5’10 he could get away with that in shoes but like saying you’re 5’11 will get you called out, that would only probably work to a really short woman. And yeah I guess I’ve never been so not too sure.

@Avi Jesus some people have all the luck, you have grown past 18? We literally have a similar growth chart except I just stopped at 5’10.5” noon, like I don’t understand genetics I really don’t. I wish I had your height. You’re basically 6’0, I always said to myself if only I exercised and ate better and slept properly while going through puberty maybe I would have ended up a legit 5’11 or 6’0, but alas there’s nothing I can do.
avi said on 14/Jun/19

I'm 5'11.5 to 6'0 area.

And sometimes I may notice more tall than short or average. I try not to!


At around 6'0 you would be above average or tallish.
6'2 guys (which are also not so uncommon) will not be much taller than you , even 6'3 or 6'4 won't tower you.

But even next to someone an inch taller I feel small but the difference is not so big in reality.

I think solid tall is a strong 6'1.

The lifts aren't really as much as advertised. The half inch one I experimented with only gives .3 or so of actual height.

The 1 inch maybe gives.75. Rob has a video.

I've seen some 6'2-6'3 guys and it can look really awkward and gawky.
That is why I'm hesitant on ever wanting to be over 6'1.5 - 6'2.

If I could blink my eyes and choose any height I'd want to be I'd be a bit indecisive but would probably choose 6'2 even 6'3 only because I am one of those people who feel smaller than I actually am.

I would not choose 6'5 or 6'8 or something crazy like that. Though it would be interesting to be 6'8 for like a month just to see how life would be. :)
Canson said on 14/Jun/19
@Rob: in regards to your response to Luca, how would you classify weak 6’3? I thought your definition was 5/8-3/4 or 2/3-3/4” whereas Luca dips slightly under half. I agree with 6’2.5 for his height however
Editor Rob
It's probably towards the bottom of weak zone, mostly 1/4 or 1/3rd I'd say puts you into it
Myself said on 14/Jun/19
Yeah, my 175 cm friend that I measured multiple times properly with can+wall method (on different walls too), just got measured 178 by the doctor again. Now he used a pencil, without stadiometer...he was previously measured at the same mark twice; once with a stadiometer and the other with an electronic measuring machine.
I don't understand how they can be so inaccurate, considering those are all barefoot and afternoon measurements too...complete incompetence.
Arthur! said on 14/Jun/19
Bobby, I live in Greece and trust me, the male greek average is at least 176 cm considering all generations. But from my sightings and since I hang out and go to places were 20-30 year olds go, the average amongst that age group seems to be around 180 cm. Your sightings of greek people happen during summer in Athens, when most young native greeks are on islands for vacations. I don't want to argue with you anymore since we share the same heritage, but your sightings do not happen in accurate times of the year. We are not a short nation by any means. We are probably taller than Italians, Frenchmen, Albanians and Turks but not as tall as Germans of course.
Paycho said on 13/Jun/19
Hello rob
You mentioned alot that the younger generation in the UK got taller (5"10).
Iv read some articles claiming that the average height in the US decreased, they say americans got shorter.
What do you think? And if it is true what might be the causes of that?
Editor Rob
There was a link on here a few months back about the national health survey - from what I remember, the young 20-30 range had regressed a little bit like a couple of mm from the previous year...but the sample sizes weren't huge, I think the national health survey each year has a decreasing amount of participants in it.

I am not sure americans have got shorter, but have settled or stagnated.
Nik said on 13/Jun/19
@ avi - How tall are you please?

I know this is not the case with you but I am sure that some people's minds filter out all the 5'6" - 5'7" guys in suits and only notice the tall guys!
avi said on 13/Jun/19

I'll go back to 15.

15 yrs old: 5'7

16 yrs old: 5'9.25

17: 5'9.5

18: 5'10 (doctor measurement mid to later morning that I distinctly remember and have records.)

19 years old: 5'10.5 (I think this year I was too distracted to care about measuring so can't recall 100% what I was)

20 years old: 5'11

21 years old: 5'11.25

22: 5'11.6

23: 5'11.8 (I think this was it but it may be small margin of error I may have been this since 22)

I can say with utmost certainty that at 17 I was not even 5'10 because I remember specifically measuring around 5'9.5 in the bathroom and wishing I was over 5'10 lol.

I'd say I probably stopped growing at 22. As you can see by 16- 17 it was slow
Almost like a 2 inch spurt was spread out for 5 years. Very strange.

I did do stretches at 21 to 23 on and off.
I also believe I triggered a 2 inch + growth spurt from 15 to mid 16 because I lost weight and became very active.

I still believe it I made some minor changes I would be 6'1 give it take a half inch.
But who knows. One can say I reached my potential or damn close to it.
Wish I was born in Holland!
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 13/Jun/19

Yeah, I would say 10 years ago when I was looking up height averages, it was generally accepted that the average German man was 5'11 and the average Greek man was 5'10. These averages have changed though, over time, but they may have always been self-reported. Nowadays, I am reading an average of 5'10.5 for Germans and 5'9.75 for Greeks, but even that I find to be a little too high.
Luca said on 13/Jun/19
Dear Rob, if I measure 191,3 cm out of bed, and I usually finish my day at about 189,2 cm (with an absolute low of 188,9 cm) how would you define my 189 cm? (legit, solid eccetera)
Editor Rob
You are in weak 6ft 3 range, though a solid 6ft 2.5.
c-mo said on 13/Jun/19
@ Luke Heinz I am the same height as you :D maybe 1-2mm difference . lol nice . I wouldnt claim 5'10 but you can claim it if a woman asks your height . the reason is that many men lie about their height or dont know how tall they really are and claim a higher height so why shouldnt you claim your morning height which is actually your height right ? I mean women do care about height so I see no reason why you shouldnt claim 5'10 to a woman . even 5'11 she would believe . but I think 5'9.5 is ok to claim in general

@Greg . the average height for a non elderly man in the western world is 5'10 . I am from Turkey (of kurdish origin) and "even" our average for young men seems to be around 176cm . for europe proper it is roughly 177-178cm (night height) . so 6'0 is only 2 inches above average . I dont care if the average is lower when you count grandpas and people from countries with low average heights tbh....

@AndrewV yes it is true . the average height for young german men is around 180-181cm
Progking said on 13/Jun/19
@avi i am normally around 6-6'0.25 and wore shoe lifts that made me an inch taller. I didnt really notice the difference that much. So i think 6'0 should be at least tallish. I consider myself borderline tall. People i see who are taller than me i consider tall, people shorter than me are just above average/average. If they are below my eyes they are getting short
Bego said on 13/Jun/19
@AndrewV Click Here This is a way better link, it shows why avg is purportedly 178cm, picture you see here are measured whites, blacks are 0,5 to 1cm shorter, here's the backup link Click Here, in text it clearly shows that man lie about height, by 2.5cm and woman by 1cm usually. So substract 2-3cm from average's in each state and you'll have true avg. Even if stadiometer was used, doesnt mean height isnt reported wrong, they will usually give you 1 or 2cm after measurement, think of rounding up i.e. when someone was measured 181,5cm or 182cm they will give him 183cm or 6ft, since metric isnt used by US it can be easier in inflating because 6ft ranges from 182cm-185cm (low 6ft and strong 6ft). Look up Size Code Height on Google, Bobby has mentioned that site couple of times, it perfectly compares heights.

Yes avg has stopped in some countries like NL, Poland and Sweden i think. Not sure about Germany i think they stopped growing too. There's still a high rate of height growth in some parts of Balkans, Turks are getting taller, i have seen many many guys 6ft and over in Istanbul but its a huge city of 15mill people, and many people there are of west Balkan origin, Bursa also... Now here where i live in north east Bosnia, there are days when avg feels 177-178cm among youth and next day and day after that avg will feel 182-185cm, it varies from day to day at times. This summer during night life when 80%of people you see are youth, you will feel quite shortish at 180cm, not really short just bellow avg, many will edge you and tower you.
Glitch said on 13/Jun/19

Cam you give me your growth chart from 16-21?
Greg said on 12/Jun/19
@Asthon99 As a 5’9 guy you would be just about average at about any Univeristy in America and U.K. often times you’ll see people shorter and sometimes taller but you’re not short by any means.
Greg said on 12/Jun/19
@Chris Brady my advice for you would be see a Doctor and a Chiro, they will help you restore that to normally. Also measure yourself properly make sure you are measuring yourself correctly, if so then yeah there’s some posture regaining excercises you can do to recover height that’s what my Doctor told me to do and I’m working on it I might gain anywhere from 1/4th-1/2th inch I think anymore would just be impressive.
Osiris123 said on 12/Jun/19
Hey rob,
Would a 5"8 guy (172cm) feel within the average range in the us? I have Several friends around that height who live in the us and claim that they do.
Like the site
Editor Rob
He should feel within average a fair bit, but I'm sure many situations might result in him feeling in the short category, because 5ft 8 is a solid inch under average, so if around younger crowd (in which the average is over 5ft 9) I think there could be such situations that occur.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 12/Jun/19
@ Chris - Firstly, I'm sorry to read about your unfortunate accident. If you are fit enough to play basketball, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't make a complete recovery. Just take it easy for a while.

Cheers Chris!

Sandy Cowell 😁👍
avi said on 12/Jun/19
@Chris brady said on 10/Jun/19

I don't think that would effect at least not more than .25 if an inch.

Unless it affected your posture.

I used to measure around 6'0 even , 5'11.8 and now have trouble with 5'11.5 often.
I think in my case sitting in chair last 3 years or so made my spine compress a but and affect my posture. I am

I'd say rest for awhile and monitor. Maybe do some stretches when better.
Kaysan said on 12/Jun/19
How did you hurt your back when playing basketball that never happened to me not even once and maintain posture which I'm 5'8.5-5'9 barefoot and 5'9.5-5'10 In shoes and 17 unless you were playing competitively?
AndrewV said on 12/Jun/19
A weak 5'9" would be low average. Generally, people wouldn't think you're short or tall until you're a flat 5'8" or a solid 6'0", respectively.

178cm is the measured average for white American guys in their 20s and 30s. For the general population of men in their 20s, the average is closer to 176cm: Click Here, see page 15. Also, I read somewhere that young generations in Europe have also stopped growing with the exception of certain Balkan countries.

That's interesting, I read from a study that the average for young German guys is a solid 5'11/181cm, with some specific locales having an average as high as six foot. This could've been self-reported data though.
Greg said on 12/Jun/19
@c-mo 6'0 is 3 inches above the average not 2.
Luke Heinz said on 12/Jun/19
Rob I wake up at 5’10.2 and go to bed at almost a whole inch shorter at 5’9.3, I know I’m not a legit 5’10, but do you think I can get away with claiming that in the everyday world.
Editor Rob
Considering how others view height, you could probably say 5ft 10 and the majority wouldn't question it...but some people who go by afternoon height, they might think you are rounding up.
avi said on 11/Jun/19
@Nik said on 9/Jun/19
avi - In most parts of England you would find that 6'0" is a pretty tall height!

I was in London before and I felt maybe strong average. I know it's a city with many tourists from all over the world and just crowded as heck in general.

I will say it's probably similar to NYC so maybe average in England is same as the US despite thousands and thousands of people I don't think I saw anyone more than 6'6-6'7 when I visited.


"5’7” : starting to get short for sure
5’8”: below average but not really short
5’9”: Low average
5’10”: Bang average
5’11”: High average
6’0”: above average but not really tall (yet)
6’1” : tall"

I agree with that chart. I think it's spot on.

I think 5'11 and 6'0 are same thing pretty much.

Solid 6'1 definitely is tall , not strong tall but it's the start.
6'2 is solid tall.
6'3 very tall
6'4 and 6'5 extremely tall
6'6 gigantic. This is start of being freakishly tall though some will say 6'7 may be.


Yes it's ok but I guess it depends on your mentality. If you want to be solid tall 6'2 is good. At 6'3+ it's gets too inconvenient I think.
I never gave height much thought until I was almost 16. It started when I lost weight and was measured in health class at 15.5 yrs old. I was maybe 5'8ish barefoot almost 5'9 in shoes (they measured me in sneakers). Then I was measured again barefoot at 5'9 when I was a little over 16.

That's when I started noticing everyone's height and wanting to be a few inches taller.
I remember saying I wouldn't want to be over 6'0 maybe 5'11 range but then by 17-18 I wished I would be 6'2-6'3 as I learned quickly that 5'10-6'1 is pretty common.
Wish I never got into worrying about height at all! Ignorance is bliss :)

As for lifts that was an interesting experiment. As Rob said 1 inch lifts shouldn't cause much attention among those you know.
Plus remember some people aren't so cognizant of height they just don't care. We are in the minority. 99%+ of ppl go about their day not worrying about their height. Plus being drunk definitely would make it less likely to notice!

The 1 inch lifts really only give .75 or something of height apparently. Rob has a video out there where he tests them.
I have "half" inch lifts I think they only give .25-.3 boost. Not much at all.

I was thinking of getting the 2.5 inch Don's shoes for when I go to larger outings (wedding, reunion, parties etc).

Guys like you and me are not far from 6ft and can be pushed into that "tall" zone easily.

And yes at the mall and supermarkets
I guess clubs you will see many men 6'0-6'5.
At the mall seeing a few 6'4-6'6 guys isn't shocking. The tallest person I ever met was at a mall. Had to be 6'10. I thought 7'0ish at first.
I was above his shoulder and probably came up to his chin so 6'9-6'10 may be more realistic. Massive though and definitely a curse not a blessing.

The other day at the supermarket (not a big store) I did my own test. One 6'3-6'4ish guy. 2 6'2 ish guys. 2 strong 6'1ish guys. Maybe 1 or 2 6'0 guys.

I thought that was quite a few tall ppl for a smaller sized store...
Martin Olofsson said on 11/Jun/19

Take a look at these statistics of military recruits for the swedish army. They have statistics for average height that goes back to the 60s and as late as 2008.

Click Here

Take year 1999 for example.
Click Here

The average height for all recruits (31 157 measured) was about 179.8 cm. Men grow on average one centimeter from age 18 to age 21, landing on roughly 181 cm for average height.

The average height has been pretty consistent for the recruits, since the late 1970s at roughly about 180 cm, give or take a few mm's.

However, the average has gone up a bit lately, maybe because fewer are recruited to the military nowadays compared to before the mid 90s when pretty much all boys were recruited into the army, one way or another (and only the big and strong get picked 2008). 2008 there were only 6800 guys measured compared to 1999 when over 31 000 guys were measured.
Daycringeothon said on 11/Jun/19
Just wanted to comment. Saw a guy on the TTC train in Toronto easily over 201cm (6’7”). Muslim or Sikh ethnicity I’m guessing. About a head taller than the railing that is roughly 183cm 6’0”. His head was 9.5”-10” long so I’d say he stood 204cm-205cm (6’8 3/8”-6’8.75”) tall minus the snickers he had on. The train ceiling is maybe 212cm 6’11.5” at highest point. He was huge too, not fat but quite buff. Wouldn’t want to be that height.
Tom kjjj said on 11/Jun/19
Anyone here who took accutane as a teenager? Did you still grow taller? Heard it stunts growth
Rick1 said on 11/Jun/19

Would you say people are getting slightly shorter? Perhaps its due to a more multicultural society, i read somewhere that the average American is about half an inch shorter than what it was about 20 years ago.
JD1996 said on 11/Jun/19
I'm going to zadar Croatia tomorrow for a holiday and I think the average height is 2 inches higher than England, so I guess there will be times I won't be so tall even at 199cm. I have a feeling there will be lots more tall people over there.
Greg said on 11/Jun/19
@AndrewV well 5’10 and 5’11 are both above average. I think at like 5’10.5”+ you will be in the phase between tallish and tall if not already tallish because in footwear you would be close to 6’0.
Daycringeothon said on 10/Jun/19
I heard from some news source years ago. That somewhere South of the Yangtze River in China young adult males are basketball centre tall. The NBA scouts were interested since it was a hot spot to see 6’8”+ players. They actually even stated 7 foot tall (of course this is only from an old NBA announcer source.)If anyone who visited this area of the Yangtze has any idea?
Dan UK said on 10/Jun/19

Interesting! People tend to assume that the average height of a country is always steadily increasing but I guess that's not always the case. Any reasons why you think the average height is decreasing?
Chris brady said on 10/Jun/19
Guys I think I'm in trouble. I hurt my back playing basketball and I think i lost some height. My refrigerator is 5-6 and my eye level was usually about 5-8.25 and I was about 6-1 at night. Now my eye level I relation to fridge is like 5-7.5 and I'm down to almost a flat 6. Lower back is hurting and the pain is in my bum and my left arm tingles a bit and is weak. Should I just take it easy and hope I recover?
Ashton99 said on 10/Jun/19
@Andrew V
I am 174.5 cm at afternoon. How would I feel at your University?
c-mo said on 10/Jun/19

I almost agree with your height chart . thats also how it is here in germany

BUT ...

imo 5'8 is not shortish . and 5'7 is rather short but that much is a common height and wont stand out most of the time

I would say it is something like this : evening heights of young men :

5’7” : starting to get short for sure
5’8”: below average but not really short
5’9”: Low average
5’10”: Bang average
5’11”: High average
6’0”: above average but not really tall (yet)
6’1” : tall

I also dont think 6'0 is tall . it is the equivalent of 5'8 . 5'8 can look average or "averageish" not rarely . and 6'0 is "only" 2 inches above average which will make you feel tallish sometimes but it is not legit tall yet among young men in the western world

when you get to 5'7 and 6'1 you are definitely falling into the short or tall category now but even at those heights you are not THAT much drifting away from the average . a 5'7 guy will be on the short spectrum and will definitely look noticable below average but it is not a stand out height just like how you will sense that a 6'1 is definitely on the tall side but he wont be the tallest guy around either

I would say once you get to 5'6 you are definitely starting to be noticable short and will be shorter than most men you encounter . you will be barely taller than the average woman in the western world

and at 6'2 you are taller than easily 90% of people you see daily . you are often one of the tallest if not the tallest guy in the room at this height
Johan 185 cm said on 10/Jun/19
James Edward Crowley said on 8/Jun/19
Rob what weight does a 5ft 8in man to start to look fat,I'm guessing 198 pounds at that weight a 5ft 8in man is heading towards the obese range 198 pounds for a 5ft 8in is on the high end of the overweight range low end of the obese range 190 pounds for a 5ft 8in man is not obese it's still in the overweight range and long way from the obese range.

175 pounds would be the start of getting fat I would say. Depends if you carry alot of muscle or not.
At 198 pounds you would be obese at 5'8".

I see alot of guys who are that weight at 5'11" and they get told to cut back because they are overweight.
mrfunnyguy said on 10/Jun/19
For me personally, it is absolutely astonishing how the male average in Sweden could be, 510, 5'11-5'11.5, or anything like that. I'm a legit 6'1, and the majority of young guys I see here are taller than me. Of course I could be wrong, since this is all just my opinion.
Bego said on 10/Jun/19
@AndrewV I believe if you substract 2-3cm its more accurate, since i read no stadiometer was used and even if it was it was probably with shoes. 5'10" avg for young males in universities is maybe true in mid western states only. What state are you from? And idk how it compares to Europe, europeans grow taller with healthier food and healthier life style overall. I know in my place you will be avg or slightly above at 5'10" only among older people.
Gin said on 10/Jun/19
Hi , Does anyone know how tall is the Italian actor Giovanni Morassutti ? I can´t find that sort of information . Thanks
Bego said on 9/Jun/19
@Ben Make more videos when walking down the street but when its crowded
XIII said on 9/Jun/19
Guys i got a question. What does "weak" 5'10 or "strong" 5'10 means. What is the difference between strong and weak.
Greg said on 9/Jun/19
@mrfunnyguy lmao name to troll ratio is on point.

@Grant you can round up, I wouldn’t think you’d look that much different from a guy who’s 6’0 at his low. A half inch isn’t that noticeable.
Greg said on 9/Jun/19
@Paycho yeah that’s them surveying heights not measuring if they where to measure they would be more 5’8.5-5’9ish 5’10 is above average for males I think around the 60th percentile 🤙.
Canson said on 9/Jun/19
@Grant: I think a fair claim is “about 6’0” or almost 6’0” or 5’11 1/2” perhaps
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 9/Jun/19

Well, I'm a Greek Canadian male, and I am around 5'10 range myself or 177/178 on average, and I would say on a typical basis that white males here are at least as much as 5'8 on average and close to 5'9 at best. In your typical supermarket, some of the white males tend to be about 5'10 on average. Overall, I'd say average height is closer to 5'8 for all ethnicities.
Ben said on 9/Jun/19
@Dan Uk
70's generation might be nearer 5'11" but every other generation is somewhere in the 5'10" range (except for elders who might be 5'9" on average). Young Swedes aren't tall either. 70's generation is the tallest one imo.
Ben said on 9/Jun/19
@mrfunnyguy Yeah you're right it's like 6'5"
Nik said on 9/Jun/19
@ avi - In most parts of England you would find that 6'0" is a pretty tall height!
AndrewV said on 8/Jun/19
Sorry for not replying earlier, that map would be pretty accurate if you subtracted 1cm since it’s self-reported. Most young white guys I see are around 5’10” plus or minus one inch. This would probably be an accurate height chart for white guys at my university:

5’7” and below: Legit short
5’8”: Start of short/shortish
5’9”: Low average
5’10”: Bang average
5’11”: High average
6’0”: Start of tall/tallish
6’1” and up: Legit tall

At 5’8” and 6’0” you’ll feel short and tall most of the time but there will be a lot of instances where you’ll feel closer to average. Push it one inch in both directions to 5’7” and 6’1” and you’ll virtually always feel short and tall, respectively. Would you say this is similar to young people in Europe?
Matt Shannon said on 8/Jun/19
Hey Rob how much does hair add to height?
Editor Rob
There's a lot of variation to that. A very tight/short style might only be 2-3mm, whilst a very thick style could be 2-3 inches.
Greg said on 8/Jun/19
@Ben Honestly I am more inclined to believe the 179 5’10.5” cm average for Sweden over 5’11.5, that would mean that their average is close to the Dinarc Alps or Dutch average. Whilst visiting Sweden I thought their average was similar to the U.S maybe an inch higher it has to be 5’10-5’10.5” I felt marginally above average but not like I do in America. In London I felt their average was in the 5’9 range probably a strong 5’9 5’9.25-5’9.5ish.

@Avi Yep 5’10-6’0 is fine. 5’11 is a nice solid tallish height for instance in most places. A strong 5’10 can be in the same catagory. Genuine 5’10-6’0 footers look taller than people think due to the guy’s 1-2 inches shorter making those heights appear shorter which is why you might get surprised when a true 5’11 guy or say a guy your height claims 5’11, people would say “no way you gotta be at least 6’1” or something along those lines. I wish I was 6’1/6’2 and you didn’t end up a bad height being a solid inch taller than me. You could get away with saying “about 6 feet” though. Yeah the thing with lifts is it’s annoying walking around with them, add a 1 inch lift to a thick dress shoe and suddenly you appear around 2 inches taller but people might notice. Depends how noticeable it is and how inconspicuous you are with them. I did an experiment back in March 2016 where I was trying to see how tall I can make myself appear to others without anyone noticing. I was going out clubbing with some friends and decided to put in a lift maybe about an inch with a thick dress shoe so it would be 2.5 inches maybe a bit less where it actually meets my foot. I would appear a weak 6’1 guy like 6’0.5”ish guy to others and guess what, my friends didn’t even notice 😂 maybe it was because we where piss drunk or the fact that I have good proportions for my height (6’2 arm span) long legs arms and short torso. I felt pretty tall going out only really noticing guys who where 6’2-6’3+ taller. There where some big 6’4+ guys too. My friends around 5’10 more or less and he was looking up to talk to me. For a second I thought he was going to ask “ yo did you get taller or something?” For example yesterday at the mall I seen a massive mall security bloke was maybe 275 pounds and 6’6-7ish in shoes didn’t peek if they where boots or just a thick style of dress shoes but if I where to guess he was maybe 6’5-6’6 barefoot a very imposing guy who could have been a good bouncer or police officer.
James Edward Crowley said on 8/Jun/19
Rob what weight does a 5ft 8in man to start to look fat,I'm guessing 198 pounds at that weight a 5ft 8in man is heading towards the obese range 198 pounds for a 5ft 8in is on the high end of the overweight range low end of the obese range 190 pounds for a 5ft 8in man is not obese it's still in the overweight range and long way from the obese range.
Dan UK said on 8/Jun/19

I'm pretty sure when they say the average is 5'11.5 they mean for young guys as opposed to overall
Daycringeothon said on 8/Jun/19
Question. Does swimming lying forward count as lying down on your back? technically?
Would it significantly stretch the lumbar discs in the spine like when waking up? Like front crawl or butterfly stroke?
Assuming you have been standing for hours in the day.
Paycho said on 8/Jun/19
Hi rob,
The national average height in the usa is 5"9 for males. I was surprised to read a claim that white males are 5"10 on average. the statistic sample size (in wiki) is'nt that representative.

So I think the average white male is still in the 5"9 range (maybe above by a fracture). (My opinion is based on a visit i had to the us)
What do you think?
Do you think its truly 5"10 or just an exaggeration?
Thank you
Editor Rob
For white males it could be slightly greater than the overall average including all ethnicities...but overall average still seems to be reported in 5ft 9 range.
mrfunnyguy said on 8/Jun/19
@Ben I'm sorry but I disagree with you about the average height in Sweden. I am under the impression that the average is a couple of inches taller than 5'11.5, maybe 6'1 or 6'2.
Johan 185 cm said on 7/Jun/19
daad1234 said on 4/Jun/19
Rob, how much height has the average 40 year old lost, is it a fraction or is it nothing?


I am almost there and haven't lost a mm yet. Rob hasn't lost anything either.
Johan 185 cm said on 7/Jun/19
Grant said on 5/Jun/19
I wake up around 183.5cm and drop to 182cm at night. I would normally just say I'm 6 foot, But if like to here what others think. A safe claim I'd say?


You probably drop to 5'11.5" given your morning height but around 5'11.75" for a portion of the day. I wouldn't worry most guys your height try to claim my height.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 7/Jun/19
Classic/flat 6ft2: Should hovering around 188cm by evening/bedtime +/- a couple of millimeters, should wake up in and around 6ft2¾ (between 189.5-190cm, closer to the latter). Examples - Gene Hackman, George Lazenby, Hugo Weaving, Paul Walker, Jim Broadbent, Julian Assange, Alan Alda

Strong 6ft2 (6ft2⅛): Should be closing the day somewhere between 188-188.5cm and NEVER below a flat 188cm. Out of bed should measure just about 6ft3 (within the 190-190.5cm zone). Lot of these guys claim 6ft3 but a reasonable number go conservative and stick with 6ft2 when asked. Examples - John Cusack, Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynolds, Sean Connery, Donald Trump, Harold Ramis, Brett Favre, Billy Baldwin and Eric Bana

On a final note, I forgot to include Bill Murray and Dan Aykrots as strong and flat 6ft1 examples
Ben said on 6/Jun/19
I see people writing the average in Sweden looks 5'11.5". I seriously doubt it's over 5'10". Here's me in a very crowded area from last year: Click Here

I'm supposedly below average if the average is 5'11".5" and I'm always taller than most people. At worst I feel average. Also, when I was in London back in april the average seemed nearer 5'8" than 5'9", I did feel quite tall in every situation. But this all in my opinion.
avi said on 6/Jun/19
@c-mo said on 4/Jun/19

I agree. 5'11 is a very good height pretty much the same as 6'0.

I do think you need to increase the range to 185-186cm.
Almost everyone would agree 6'1 is an ideal height.

6'2 is a gray area. It can be too tall and start to look funny but its not really THAT tall either.

To me strong 5'10 to strong 6'1 would be my range.

Being close to 6 foot I can tell you it's not really a tall height in Western world.

My issue is I sometimes base the ideal height relative to other people.

Like if I see 5 guys all over 6'0 up to 6'4 I'll say wait 5'11-6'0 can't be that great because it seems others are a good bit taller.

I feel there are too many people nowadays who are 6'1 to 6'3. In order to feel tall most of the time you need to be 6'1 to 6'2 imo.
Doesn't mean it's ideal for optimal living though.

The human body really is supposed to be between roughly 5'0 and 6'0

I wish I could feel like I'm thankful as I'm a strong 5'11.5 but I feel that there is no reason I couldn't be 6'1 to 6'2 area as a lot of others are.
Maybe I need to stop focusing on others.

For you being 5'9.5 isn't bad you can just put a 1 inch lift in and you are basically a weak 5'11...
Importer said on 6/Jun/19
Thanks for the response on my last question btw Editor Rob. Would claiming 6ft with a 170.5-171cm eye level be plausible and non suspicious ? I mean barefoot of course.
Editor Rob
It wouldn't be that unreasonable, because that is a common eyelevel range you'd find in near 6ft men.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 6/Jun/19
Importer this how I look at it…

Weak 6ft1 (6ft0⅞) : By evening/bedtime should be hovering around 185cm flat, at worst a couple of millimeters shy but not a serious plummet into 184cm zone. Out of bed - clearing 6ft1 by a comfortable margin and scraping 6ft1½ (minimum 186.5cm). A 6ft0¾ listing worst case scenario. Examples - Jon Hamm, James Gandolfini, Paul Ryan, Dean Ambrose, Fetty Wap

Classic/Flat 6ft1: Should be a stay a bit above 185cm flat by days end. Out of bed should clear 6ft1½, into the 6ft1¾ zone (between 187-187.5cm). Examples - Sam Waterston, Roger Federer, Ed O’Neill, Isaiah Washington, Cary Grant, Busta Rhymes, Luke Bryan, Burt Lancaster

Strong 6ft1 (6ft1⅛): By evening/before bed still close to 186cm (no less than 185.5cm) or slightly above 6ft1. After a good nights rest should be about 6ft2 or within a small indistinguishable fraction of it (within 187.5-188cm) Examples - Ronaldo, Mark Gatiss, Kevin Costner, Luke Mitchell, Colin Hanks Josh Holloway, Quentin Tarantino. Guys in this range have good odds of getting 6ft1½ measurements earlier in the day and will claim 6ft2 off that

Weak 6ft1½ (6ft1⅜): Safely above 6ft1 flat at a low (evening/before bed 186-186.5cm) and out of bed at least 6ft2 if not a fraction over (between 188-188.5cm) Examples - Colin Firth, Pierce Brosnan, Gerard Butler, Greg Wise, Will Smith, Roger Moore. Many round up to 6ft2

Strong 6ft1½ (6ft1⅝): Hovers around 187cm by evening/nighttime -/+ a couple of milimetres. Out of bed safely clears 6ft2 and measures close to 189cm. Examples - Mark Strong, Corey Stoll, James Earl Jones, Mahershala Ali, Kevin Kline, Rainn Wilson, David Letterman, Jim Carrey. Most will claim 6ft2

Weak 6ft2 (6ft1⅞): Doesn’t fall under 187.5cm in the evening. Straight out of bed should clear 189cm with ease. Examples - Michael Caine, Julian McMahon, Tom Hiddleston, David Gandy, David Hayes, Clive Owen, Rodrigo Santoro
Chris brady said on 6/Jun/19
@ Hoss. That is a pretty nifty trick. I would try it but all the walls in my home have baseboards. Would facing a wall and placing the can on my head be accurate? I'm talking about guiding the can off the tip of my skull as a starting point. My can isn't long enough to hit my top of skull off the wall.
Glitch said on 6/Jun/19

How Old Are you now?
Hoss said on 6/Jun/19
@Progking I am about half an inch shorter than you; 184.3cm waking up & drop to 182.4cm (can drop another 5mm with heavy exercise) I'd have to say it's an odd height because I feel I am neither one of the short nor the tall guys but I don't necessarily feel bang on average either though. I'm always tallest amongst shorter guys and shortest of the taller group, does that just make me average? I always think damn if they're taller than me then well they're over 6 foot and tall.

It is weird though I always meet people and think they're edging me out but when pictures are taken it's always the other way around and I just about edge them out, maybe I have a height complex haha.

I feel in the past I've been told a lot I am tall and big but I think that's more because of my build I am broad and bulky in general but also my hair adds like 2-3 inches on top.

I would say that in the UK I am Upper average/Above average height especially amongst 18-35 year olds.

I am also of egyptian heritage and when I am in egypt I get called tall all the time and whilst I certainly see tonnes taller than me I would say it is a solid tall height out there.
HonestSlovene said on 6/Jun/19
@Progking Yeah, it depends where you live, but any height from 5'11" to 6'1" in 1st world countries can be seen anywhere between medium and tall. 6'1" + is tall even in the Netherlands (actual average there is around 5'11.5" to 6'0" for younger guys under 40).
Hoss said on 6/Jun/19
@Chris Brady Hey man I have measured to the mm where 182cm is on a wall which doesn't have a skirting board (this did cause deviations in the past) I get a book or a piece of wood which has a perfect right angle and turn my back to the wall and lower it until it touches top of my head, I then hold it in place on the wall until I make a marking then I just measure the deviation from 182cm. This won't be as 100% accurate as a stadiometer however I reckon it's almost as accurate.

What I've realised is that from 18 I did grow another 1cm-1.3cm or so
Importer said on 5/Jun/19
I insist you to correct me if I'm wrong @Editor Rob.
Weak 6'1 (6' 1/2"- 3/4") = 185.5cm-186cm in the morning. Example: Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto
Can get away with claiming 6'1 (6' 7/8") or so to say "flat 185cm" = 186.5cm-187cm in the morning. Example: Roger Federer, Keanu Reeves (peak height imo)
Flat 6'1 (6'1") = 187.5cm in the morning. Example: Colin Hanks, Quentin Tarantino,
Classic 6'1 (6ft1 1/8")= 187.8cm (6'2") in the morning. Example: Mark Gatiss
Strong - Very Strong 6'1 (6'1 1/4" - 1/2")= 188cm-188.5cm in the morning. Example: Gerald Butler, peak Colin Firth, peak Pierce Brosnan, Mark Strong. These group of people are tricky to tell the difference. To me Mark Strong would be perceived to be the tallest out of the other three due to his slim physique.

I might be wrong by a maximum of 0.5cm on some 6'1 catagories but it's plausible right?😂. To me personally a strong 6'1 to flat 6'3 is a sweetspot for tall height if you live in the U.K, almost everyone would think you're atleast 6'2 😂 Since the general depiction of a 6'0 man has changed over the years and to some it is not perceived as tall as it used to be and people as low as 5'10 claiming 6'0 does indeed escalate this issue 🤦‍♂️. So if your atleast 180cm many people would think you're actually 6'0 or even 6'1!... . The perfectionist tall height would be a flat-classic 6'2 like Sean Connery, Ryan Reynolds as it has been for about a century imo. A flat 6'3 is the favoured height for people who are always amongst 190cm+ friends (people) on a daily basis.
Editor Rob
I'd say those actors potentially fit those figures, to within a very small margin of error I believe.
Nik said on 5/Jun/19
@ Totigno - There are no hard and fast rules!
Nik said on 5/Jun/19
@ Hoss - I like your name!
Kaysan said on 5/Jun/19
If I'm 5'9 without shoes how much does a regular Nike size shoe add to your height my size is 9.5.
Progking said on 5/Jun/19
@cmo its high average/above average if 5'11.5-6'0 is tallish. 6'0.5 is the true start of tall imo, i am around that height and am seen by others as a pretty tall guy. However i remember when i was 5'11-5'11.25 at 16 i felt tall sometimes walking around, and was one of the taller guys in my classes at school.
Chris brady said on 5/Jun/19
@ Hoss Hey dude how do you measure your height hroughout the day to get such accurate measurements? Curious about how all of you guys do this.
Greg said on 5/Jun/19
@Arthur That’s cute I figured you’d at least upgrade your cave to a tent or a Hut but due to the budget cuts in the height fraud department I take it they aren’t paying what they used to, so no worries I get you have to pinch every penny 😂. And oh man do you have anything that shrinks you horizontally I think I’m big enough down there I know they say sharing is caring and if I could I would share with you boi but it’s just out of my ability, best of luck on the hair formula I’m sure if you wanted to glue some grass on your head that would do the trick, cheers 👌
c-mo said on 5/Jun/19

and other members

help me out with this one

Mike Tyson and Mark Hunt are both 178cm as we know .

how tall does boxer Tim Tszyu look next to them ? he is listed as 174cm . seems accurate to me but I wouldnt rule out 175cm . what do you think ?

Click Here

with mike tyson he might not have been fully grown yet I dont know ...looks very young there

Click Here
Editor Rob
His boxing listing seems like it might be accurate.
Psycho said on 5/Jun/19
Hi rob,
How accurate is the tanners formula of height? How common is it that people get more inches than calculated in this formula?
Thank you
Editor Rob
I haven't read about it for years.
Greg said on 5/Jun/19
@Progking I agree with you, even 5'10 range can be up there but 6'0 is my favorite height if not 6'2.
Greg said on 5/Jun/19
@Avi Yep I know tall guys who are like 6'3 and claim 6'4, not even talking about ones in the 6'3.5 range, even know 6'2 guys who say they are 6'4. It's all an ego thing. Also it's funny how you mention that some people are novices when it comes to guessing height, most of my friends seem to be in that catagory. I think my one 5'9ish friend would get along with your friend who claims 5'10, except this guy claims he got measured 5'11 at the Doctors, my guess is he either got measured in thick boots and rounded up or he is just lying about that all together. When standing with him I have the edge though my friend thinks we are the same height, most likely because when we went back to back (on carpet) I was unknowingly tilting my head slightly backwards along with my back but we are going to be doing a measurement can against the wall soon (hopefully as he rarely comes out) so we have to find a situation where we are at someones house I bet my friend money lol this should be interesting seeing he won't can against the wall at 5'11 let alone 5'10, I am 5'10.25/5'10 3/8ths at a low depending on my activity level.
Grant said on 5/Jun/19
I wake up around 183.5cm and drop to 182cm at night. I would normally just say I'm 6 foot, But if like to here what others think. A safe claim I'd say?
Gleb said on 4/Jun/19
I would consider 6 foot (183 sm) as an ideal height.It is where tall starts and agile in living,life.
Canson said on 4/Jun/19
@K.A.188: for me dipping maybe 1/8” under is fair since that would be lunchtime height but any more wouldn’t. So 6’1 7/8 at a low is 6’2 or if you use halves 6’2 3/8 is 6’2.5. But halves aren’t used right. It’s always an excuse for people to round up so that’s why I don’t use them as often as I used to claim 6’4 1/2 when I measured 6’4 3/8. Got tired of “you can claim 6’5 too” or “why bother with the half? You’re tall enough at 6’4” like I was trying to magnify it. It is annoying because it’s like “no sh*t” (especially when it’s roundung up). I know what I can claim. And it’s because everyone for some reason thinks making people taller is complimenting or making them better when I don’t see it like that. Never have. I see it as each person has their own qualities regardless of stature. I could claim either or but I go with 6’4” as I am more in line with a 6’4 person than 6’5”. I also don’t see it fit when someone is much under half at any point in the day to be rounding up to the next inch. That’s a bit much imho. I guess if you’re 6’1.75 then round up and say 6’2 or about. I would round up but to me it isn’t quite solid. I’m 6’4.25 at a low sometimes a mm over 6’5 or a mm over out of bed) and I still just say 6’4 or about 6’4 since I’m a hair over. I only qualify strong etc on this site not outside of it. If I lived in a country using CM it’d be 194 probably as 193.6-.8 is a normal low for me depending on how active I am
avi said on 4/Jun/19
@K.A 188 said on 4/Jun/19

Well nowadays 177cm (5'9.5ish) is barely average for younger men. So I think 179 to 180 you're a strong 5'10 weak 5'11 then you are solidly average almost above average for younger men.
The problem is margins. At 6'2-6'3 most men will be smaller and you can tower 5'7-5'8 guys. At a weak 6'0 you can't. But I agree you won't ever feel short at 5'10ish unless you're around 6'2+ guys.

And I honestly wouldn't say you are that lucky..your parents are tall especially for Italy. So your height would be in the realm of expectation albeit maybe higher end.
A lot of times males take after mother's height and 5'7 is I'm sure very tall for a woman in Italy. Also consider your parents may not have hit their potential. From my experience most women 5'6+ have children 5'11 + especially if the father is over 5'10.
If you have a tall uncle or grandfather it helps too obviously
Simon E said on 4/Jun/19
Rob if I wake up at 184.7cm what height shall I claim?
Editor Rob
You could go with 183cm and mostly everybody will say that guy is honest about his height!
daad1234 said on 4/Jun/19
Rob, how much height has the average 40 year old lost, is it a fraction or is it nothing?
Editor Rob
Generally 40 is an age you should reach without losing visible height, but that doesn't mean measurable amounts like 2-3mm aren't lost.
Arthur! said on 4/Jun/19
Nah, it's summer time now, I need some sunshine, I'll go back to my cave in the winter. I guess you'll have to bear with me for a while, I've missed all of you guys :)

I haven't come up with a hair formula yet unfortunately, but, I've created a formula that helps you grow a few inches horizontally just for you Greg! Thank me later and leave me your shipping adress ;)
c-mo said on 4/Jun/19
a solid 5'11 is high end average . nothing more nothing less

it is definitely not tall . but it will be tall or tallish for some people because it is a bit over average height for western man . and especially because of all the height inflations which are going on a good amount of people will guess you easily 6'0 and some even 6'1 especially with thick shoes and good posture . I am 5'9.35 (to be exact lol) and people often guess me 5'11 but a real 5'11 guy will be taken as 6'0.5 or something by many

one thing is for sure though ... you will NEVER be short to anybody . not even a little . the only time where you POSSIBLY might get called short are the very rare odd situations when you are in giantville or when there is a 6'0 woman who has complexes and will call you short only because she wished you were taller because she finds you attractive (but even most very tall women will still date a 5'11 guy) . other than that 5'11 is 100% safe from the short thing .

imo 5'11 is the most aesthetic height there is . it never looks too short or too tall to me. it looks very proportionate . and women love that height on men I noticed . also many of the best looking male celebs in the world like george clooney , leonardo dicaprio , jamie dornan etc. are around 5'11 give or take a little . I noticed that men around 5'11 often have the best proportional aesthetics

I am ~178cm in the early morning and ~176cm in the evening and if I was 3-4cm taller I would feel perfect height tbh. already at my height I feel solid most of the time and am feeling to be a decent height .

I think the terms to label my height correctly are :

"quite good"



etc. . not sure if you agree

if I was lets say 3.5cm taller it would be as if I wore 2cm shoes with a 1.5cm lift in it even though I am BAREFOOT ....if I was that tall I would feel ideal height and imo it IS in the perfect range (as I said in my experience the ideal range is 178 - 184cm with the higher end range like 182-184cm being the very best)

anybody who is 5'11 barefoot should thank god for it
Hoss said on 4/Jun/19
Also guys, my brother who I would say is in the weak 5 foot 11 range, he recently started seeing a chiropractor, he has a few spinal imbalances. I tell you what he now seems a strong 5 foot 11 and they've really sorted out his spine and he walks so much taller now without it looked like a forced posture.
Hoss said on 4/Jun/19
@rob been on this following this site for years absolutely love it.

I've got a what can I claim question please.

Morning height ranges from 184-184.5cm but I drop to 183.5 within a couple of hours. 9 hours into the day I am 182.5cm. After the gym I go down to 181.8cm but back up to 182cm before I sleep.
Editor Rob
A modest claim is 182, a middle ground claim is 183cm.

Generally with those stats, I feel you clear 6ft enough in the morning to be able to claim about 6ft as your height.
K.A 188 said on 4/Jun/19
@CANSON: i my opinion a solid height should not be more than 5 milimiters below his given height at low, for example a solid 6ft2 guy should never deep below 187.5 at his absolute lowest at night worst case 187 flat at night.
But is really hard for most people not to go below their mark except they really have long legs and short torso.

@AVI : Honestly in my opinion anybody who is 177+ barefoot has no reason to be insecure if you are 177 flat barefoot you will never be the shortest in Hall, class, room or any crowded place.
The mistake most ppeople make
is they think that their height is at their eye -level forgetting that above the eyes you still have 5-8 cm (depending) .
Sometimes when i see a a very solid 6ft guy let's say a 184ish guy am like this guy is decently tall, but if i look at the mirror or window behind him i can clearly see that i am easily and noticeably 2inches (5cm) taller.
When i was small i have always wanted to be 190cm because here in Italy and the rest of Europe it is seen as the beginning of very tall.
I actually clearly 190 out of bed though.. .. But am mostly 188 and a change 3-6 milimiters during the day.
Considering my parents height 181cm peak for my Dad, and 170 for my Mom i am even lucky to be over 6foot.
Ben said on 4/Jun/19
@Rob - yeah this might be my final height but you never know, my older brother grew 0.75 inches from 19-21. I do claim 178 in public bcuz I like how it makes 5'10" look better. That 178.7 measurement might've been my low, I wonder what my extreme low would be.
Editor Rob
Well, worth reporting back up till age 21 to see if your body has any final half inch or so left in it.
Canson said on 4/Jun/19
@Avi: agreed
Greg said on 3/Jun/19
@Paycho @Rob Russians might be 5’8.5-5’9 my friend has been living in Russia for 2 years now and he’s around my height maybe a bit shorter so 5’10.25-5’10.5” and he says he feels above average although he’s convinced he’s 6’0 lol typical inflation. But Russians are getting a bit taller this generation I feel like.
Greg said on 3/Jun/19
@francis might want to get yourself checked out, how can you wake up at 6’0 and go down to 5’10.5 lol? Normally guys at that height would dip to 5’11.25” or so.

@Arthur hyahya wow, it’s a lunar eclipse on celeb heights the rare occurance when a wild Arthur comments on here. He has emerged from his cave at last! Did you see your shadow? What’s the prediction for celeb heights this year. Or perhaps he found the ultimate hair growth formula you should share some with me so I can grow my beard tall like Rob Paul. It’s a shame that you’re so stuck on Bobby and his measurements that you keep bringing up the past. Yes he claimed 6’1 and 6’0 but he was guessing now he claims 5’10 but I know that gets under your skin that he’s taller than you 😮. Cheers Arthur hope the cave is nice and warm until next time.
Littlelee5ft6 said on 3/Jun/19
See arthurs back to his vile ways. Always picking on Bobby. Clearly jealous that's Bobby is closer to 5ft 10 than he is
avi said on 3/Jun/19

Well I meant absurd to want to be like 6'6 unless you do sports or want to be in movies typecast as " the big guy".
For a guy like me who doesn't like to stand out it's odd how I'd like to be 6'2ish

Since you are already 6'4 you are used to it so I can see why you'd choose it over 6'2.

There was a time when I wanted to be really big like 6'5+ but after getting older and wiser I saw
1). Not convenient or optimal in everyday life
2). It isn't as unique or "special" as I thought when younger because if you go in a large crowd you're bound to see some 6'4-6'6 guys.
3). It doesn't make one look better or provide many advantages

But again it's relative to one's perception. I just think if average height falls in the 5'8 to 6'1 range (roughly) why would one wish to deviate from this range by more than an inch?
I'm sure there's a reason most human males fall in this range because it's most optimal for the body.

Almost every really big guy I met said "you don't want to be this height"

I had a math teacher around 6'6 who said he had back problems since his early 30s. And most 6'5 I've met seem to stoop a lot.
Normally the college and High school kids who aren't socially awkward are the ones who think it's cool to be really tall.

And your friend is probably a weak 6'3 just like I'm a weak 6'0 except he's claiming his height with shoes probably.
I have a friend who says 6'3 but in pics with me he is barely 2.5 taller if lucky. Most ppl inflate by an inch even tall guys.

I wouldn't press the point to him why make someone feel bad over a little exaggeration? :)
But I get how it's annoying. My friend in the 5'9 probably 5'9.5 as his medical record said 69.5 when he showed me his physical paperwork, he says 5'10 and then had the audacity to say "what are you like 5'10.5?" ! Based on pictures there is a solid 2 inch difference. Probably 2.5 to 2.7.
Some people don't know how to tell height or know the eyebrows are 4-4.25 inches or know most male heads are 9 to 9.5 inches etc so have no reference.
I try not to be too hard on height novices :)
Most people actually don't give 2nd thought to their height and go about their day. I wish I was like that!
avi said on 3/Jun/19
@grizz said on 31/May/19

I would agree that 183cm to 187cm is ideal. I think 181cm to 188cm would be my range.
I think a man in the 5'11 range is a very good height. The problem with 5'11 to 6'0 zone is you are not too much taller than most men. That is the zone I'm in.
5'9-5'10 are well above my eye brows so I don't feel tall most of the time but
my perception may be skewed (as many here) by selectively focusing on men 6'0+

I think past 6'2 you are prone to more health issues.
6'1 actually may be the perfect height now that I think about it.

@Kaysan said on 31/May/19

That is similar to me. 5'2 at 12 into 13th birthday which was 7th grade. Then growth spurt to 5'6 by 8th. It sounds like you had a 5 inch growth spurt and are slowing now.

I am assuming you are ethnically Bangladeshi? You seem to be above average if so. You will probably hit close to 5'10.
Bego said on 3/Jun/19
@Emil Do you have any group photos?
Canson said on 3/Jun/19
@K.A.188: for sure purposes, I would classify myself as a strong 6’4” more than solid because I’m 1/4-3/8” over the mark at a low. I class them as follows:

6’4 out of bed/6’3.25 at a low would be strong 6’3
6’4.25-.5/ 6’3.5-.75 at a low is a weak 6’4”
6’3.75-6’3 7/8 at a low is sorta purgatory. I would say one is just above weak and the other just below strong.
True solid to me is 6’4 at a low and
Progking said on 3/Jun/19
@Avi 5'11-6'3 imo. Any taller is unneccesary. 5'11 is the best height for daily life, 6'1 is the best if you want to be a tall guy walking around, and 6'3 if you want to start to stand out in public without the drawbacks of being too tall. Therefore 6'0 really is a good balance
Canson said on 3/Jun/19
@K.A.188: in the 4 years I’ve been on the site, 193.1 is my extreme low once or twice I believe. Other times it’s 193.2-.3. My normal is anywhere from 6’4.25-6’4.3 (193.6-.8) depending on whether I hit the gym. but at 37 And with some back issues although still good posture, I don’t rule out having lost 1/8” in height or maybe a couple mm minimum.
Progking said on 3/Jun/19
@Avi 5'11-6'3 imo. Any taller is unneccesary. 5'11 is the best height for daily life, 6'1 is the best if you want to be a tall guy walking around, and 6'3 if you want to start to stand out in public without the drawbacks of being too tall
c-mo said on 3/Jun/19
avi said on 31/May/19
@c-mo said on 30/May/19

You are saying 178cm to 184cm is best range but 6'7 can be ok?

I think if you are between 5'9.5 and 6'2 that is a good range. 6'7 is way too tall.
I agree 6'5 and decent build can be ok but really it's still way too tall.

But everyone will have different opinions.


oh I am 0.25 of an inch too short to be in your good range :)

and yes 178 - 184cm is the best range (in my experience) but 6'7 can not be ok can be GOOD . it is too tall to be ideal but with the right build and proportions it can be a good height
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 3/Jun/19

You're back again for more? Why don't you bloody leave me alone and shove off mate?

Well yeah, duh, I wasn't height conscious back then. Stop bringing up the past and leave me alone now, you hear? Jeez.
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 3/Jun/19
@Francis Paul

183 in the morning but 179 at night? That's an excessive amount lost. You should be 181 at night.
AndrewV said on 3/Jun/19

The average in Belgium for young guys is definitely a solid 5'10", maybe even 5'11" for Flemish men.
Ben said on 3/Jun/19
Hey Rob!

When I did the physical tests and examinations I was measured around 11:30am and I had been up on my feet since 5am. I achieved roughly 5'10.5". 178.7 to be exact 🙄. Wonder if I grew at little bcuz after 6.5h on my feet I'd expect to be hit my low of roughly 5'10".
Editor Rob
Maybe you have managed to top out around almost 179, it's fair to claim it if you want...certainly if you round down to 178cm nobody is ever going to be thinking you are shorter than you are.
Glitch said on 2/Jun/19

Are you sure about your growth pattern between your 17-20?
Nik said on 2/Jun/19
@ viper - That may well be the case if there were a lot of older folk about!
Kerem said on 2/Jun/19
The best accurate height calculation is, take your out of bed height! Substact 1.5cm... that’s your true, claming height to others. I am 196cm out of bed, so my real height is 194.5cm but I should not round it to 195cm... I am just 194cm.
HonestSlovene said on 2/Jun/19
@Totigno It's tall-average for most european countries, which average around 5'10". 6'0" is low tall range.
Lell said on 1/Jun/19
I'd not be sure if I had stopped growing until I'd be like 21 years old.

Sometimes it happens that I think I'm definitely done growing but I suddenly gain a cm out of nowhere. Just wait and see what happens.
Emil said on 1/Jun/19

I'm from Denmark, so I'm a whisker above average height here - which is between 180-182 depending on the area I'd say.

Where are you from?
Francis Paul said on 31/May/19
If i am 183 cm first thing in the morning and 179 cm at night when my back hurts a little bit
What height should i claim?
I have scoliosis so back problems and aches are a daily thing unfortunately
avi said on 31/May/19
@c-mo said on 30/May/19

You are saying 178cm to 184cm is best range but 6'7 can be ok?

I think if you are between 5'9.5 and 6'2 that is a good range. 6'7 is way too tall.
I agree 6'5 and decent build can be ok but really it's still way too tall.

But everyone will have different opinions.
Arthur! said on 31/May/19
I doubt you grew an inch after 18 too. 3 years ago you were leaving comments saying you were 6'0 or even 6'2 on a lot of sites. You obviously didn't have a clue about your height so there is no way in hell you know you grew an inch after 18. Stop lying and accept your 5'9.7 height.
Daycringeothon said on 31/May/19
Average height in Benelux 5’11” ish. Luxembourg 5’10 3/8”, Belgium 5’9” ish, Netherlands 6’ 1/4”.

Scandinavia conservative guess

Sweden 5’11.5” (mid-day) for 18 to 34 year old males.

Iceland 5’10.75” —5’11” (mid-day) same demographic

Norway 5’11”—5’11 3/8” same time of day and demographic

Denmark 5’11 7/8” same as above

Faroe Islands 5’10.75”
Paycho said on 31/May/19
Hi rob,
Me and my friends where checking the heights of russian presidents and important figures. And they all fall in the 5"6-8. What would be the average height in russia? There are alot of different numbers in different sites. My bet on 5"9 (175 cm)?
Thank you for the site
Editor Rob
I'd believe in 5ft 9-10 range these days for Russians.
c-mo said on 31/May/19
175guy said on 30/May/19
Rob, i'm 176.5 cm in the morning and 175.2 at night. Is that considered a weak 5'9 or a solid 5'9?

Editor Rob
It's not a big amount of shrinkage, I'd call you a reasonable 5ft 9 as you don't really fall much under the 5ft 9 mark.


not fall much under ? he doesnt fall below 5'9 at all ...5'9 is 175.26 ...he is 175.2 at night . you wont count that 0.06 as "falling below" will you ?....rob seriously whats going on ...this is absurd

he is a STRONG 5'9 . lol ...
Editor Rob

Solid/strong/weak/legit are used quite commonly on here, but it's not unreasonable to throw a few others into the mix.
Sakz said on 31/May/19
@Totigno I would describe a 5'11 man as 'tallish', as he would be between above average and tall. He could probably on occasions even pull of being tall depending on how tall people around him are, as it is close to 6'0 after all.
Kaysan said on 31/May/19
I got two uncles that are probably 5'10 and my dad is 5'9 and mom is 5'0 and plus I'm from Bangladesh and my dad stop growing at 19 or 20 and also I think I was 5'2 at 12 but can't recall, 5'7 at I believe 7th grade, 5'7-5'8 8th grade, and 5'9 freshman year and now still 5'9 sophmore year and now about to become a junior
K.A 188 said on 31/May/19
What was is your absolute lowest? you have ever measured after a hectic day.

Mine is 187. 7 after 8 hours of work but normaly if i am not to active i measure 188.6 at times 188.3.
Am just curios to know your own idea of solid and weak 6ft4.
Chris brady said on 31/May/19
@ Greg. My aunt does really seem a legit 5-7. @ Progking. Maybe my cuz does break into six foot club. @ Bobby 5 ft 10 my cuz may be six foot but i am not as eagle eyed as most of you are.
Sakz said on 31/May/19
@Kapp It depends whether you're talking globally or a certain place aswell. A height that is rare in one place may not necessarily be globally, though anything that is extremely tall and approaching giant territory will be pretty much anywhere.

@Chris Brady Assuming he has an average eye level he would be very close to 6'0, so somewhere between 5'11.5 and 6'0.

@Johan 185cm I know, which is why people's perception is thrown off therefore they don't believe you.
Bego said on 31/May/19
@viper Maybe he was among central and south americans? I doubt he would be avg among american europeans and afro americans.
grizz said on 31/May/19
Having a week off gave me too much time to think about everything, including ideal height.
After some serious research and a bit of personal perspective, I've got to this results.

Ideal male: 183-187 cm 84-88 kg. Guy with that height/weight range will excel in almost every sport, it's a perfect modelling height, he won't have any trouble finding fitting clothes or in using public transportation. This is also the tipping point when you aren't prone to back problems due to height issues. It's also the sweet spot height when you still aren't perceived as too tall, you're just about the right in tallness. Not to mention 99% of women would gladly date a guy with these stats.
Celebrities with these stats: Bradley Cooper, Sean Connery, Paul Walker.

Ideal female: 166-170 cm 56-60 kg with 90-60-90 or 100-60-90 measurements. This is something that isn't based on my personal observations, rather through Internet research that's purely about attractiveness rather than general daily conveniences (especially the bust-waist-hip measurements!).
Celebrities with these stats: Kelly Brook (back then), Amber Heard, Jessica Alba.
Canson said on 30/May/19
@Cmillz: depends on how you define a range. If 0-.99 then it is. Weak would essentially be .5-.75 or the way Rob describes it 2/3-3/4 or 5/8-3/4. I’m a bit more liberal with my definition as I feel over 1/2 at a low. So in that instance a 5’8.5-.75 guy could still fall into 5’8 range
avi said on 30/May/19

5'11 is considered the ideal height for optimal well being according to a yougov survey. But most will say 5'10 to 6'3. I think no more than 6'2 for ideal. I'd like that height too.

@ Kaysan said on 29/May/19

I didn't grow much at 16 . At 15 I was 5'7 and when I was 16 was 5'9 to 5'9.25. probably only 5'9.5 at 17th birthday.

At 18 I was 5'10.
19 5'10.5
21 5'11ish
By 22-23 I maxed out close to 6'0. I could have been done by 22 though I can't recall 100 But I definitely grew from 18 to early 20s.
My growth spurt was about 4 inches at 13 to 14 yrs old. 5'2 to 5'6
So you can grow a bit more.
What's your growth pattern from 12 to 16?
Also how tall are your parents and grandparents? Uncles?
Greg said on 30/May/19
@SD172 you’re not short bro you just are edged out a bit by Rob, a guy your height is below average but I wouldn’t throw you into the short catagory. I get it I too would like to be 181cm 5’11.25 or 188 6’2 I think those are great heights with 6’0 and 6’1 183 and 185 cm respectively in that range. You just have to stop comparing yourself to taller people that’s really what it all comes down to. In a larger setting you’ll find quite a few taller people but the same thing goes for shorter people. I think it’s rare to find 14 year olds who are your height. At 14 I was like 5’3 maybe pushing 5’4. But then again fellows like Big Rob where already smashing the 5’8 mark at 14 😦.
Greg said on 30/May/19
@Kaysan First of all you didn’t mention your current height and I’m assuming you meant over a period of a year? Or 1/4th in like a month or so. You’re likely almost done growing if not completely finished most guys will be done by 17 for instance I grew like an inch to 1.5 from 17-18. But everyone’s different also you have to take into consideration your parents heights and your diet, sleep schedule and excerise regime.

@Chris Brady granted your Aunt is a legit 5’7 he would be 5’11.5-6’0 range maybe even a 5’11.75 guy.

@Adrian sounds like you’re projecting your own insecurities onto others even if that’s not the case and you’re not insecure why do you assume they aren’t confident and you “feel” sorry for them hate to break it to you mate but you’re barely taller than them only by a few inches it’s not like you’re a 7 footer or something. Just realize that human height differs from person to person and go on with your day.

@Canson interesting I guess some people are not height aware.
viper said on 30/May/19
There's a 5-8 guy on another forum saying he feels tall in a Florida grocery store. Said he felt taller than 80 percent of the shoppers
175guy said on 30/May/19
Rob, i'm 176.5 cm in the morning and 175.2 at night. Is that considered a weak 5'9 or a solid 5'9?
Editor Rob
It's not a big amount of shrinkage, I'd call you a reasonable 5ft 9 as you don't really fall much under the 5ft 9 mark.
Progking said on 30/May/19
@ChrisBrady I am 6'0.25 and that is around my eye level, i think he could be anywhere from 5'11.5-6'0.25 at the maximum. So he can claim 6 foot!
Littlelee5ft6 said on 30/May/19
Cmillz 5ft 6 isn't that much shorter than 5ft 8 both are below average I wouldn't feel small next to some one 5ft 8 and most of the time given the thick footware I wear there wouldn't be as big a differential and nobody has to bend down when talking to me if they are very tall if your 6 foot or 6ft 6 I'd rather you a good up tall next to me as mark labbett did once
Kaysan said on 30/May/19
My dad stop growing at 19 or 20.
c-mo said on 30/May/19
as I said anything above 6'1 is not ideal anyway . if you disagree I respect it but thats my experience and opinion

but 6'7 is not "freakish" and 6'7 can easily be a good height with the right proportions and build

look at people like Daniel Cudmore , Deontay Wilder , Vitali Klitschko and the like ....nobody can tell me that their height is bad

I would take 6'7 even over 5'8 I think . I would take 5'9 and especially my height of 5'9.35 (to be exact) over 6'7 but 6'7 definitely has the potential to be good .

I wouldnt call anybody a freak because of his height but "freakish" starts at 6'9 ...MAYBE 6'8 . but not 6'7 imo

6'5 question that it can be an awesome height . I would probably take to be a good proportioned and well build 6'5 over my own height . but I would take a solid 5'10 over 6'5

but anything over 185cm is not ideal . it can be great but it is too much to be ideal . and the best range is 178 - 184 . but to each their own ...
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 30/May/19
@Chris Brady

With an eye level in the solid 5'7 range, your cousin should be 5'11.5 to 5'11.75. Does he look around 6ft tall to you?
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 30/May/19

You still have room left to grow. I grew an inch after 18 years old, even though some people like Andrea doubt that, I went from 5'9 to 5'10, so it's possible you can still grow even up to an inch or more.
Totigno said on 30/May/19
i think it is hard to describe a 5ft11 man correctly , you would not say short nor average
but tall not , but it is a height which is not too far from a 6 footer which can fool people easily

and legit short guys ,average height girls and older people think it is the start of tall
even in 2019 i sometimes heard tall for 5ft11(180cm) which is ridiculous.
Canson said on 30/May/19
@Avi: that’s not absurd on your part at all. A lot of guys would rather 6’2-6’3 or even just 6’2” over 6’4”. I only choose 6’4” because I already am that. Now for me I would rather 6’4” flat or maybe even fall a small non measurable amount (in appearance) under 6’4” like 6’3 7/8 as opposed to the 6’4.25 that I currently am (a mm or so over 6’5 out of bed) only because in some of the thicker sneaks and boots I’m 197cm. But push came to shove and I’d take 6’4.25 over 6’2”. It’s just funny because this one guy I know in my area lies about his height claiming 6’4 (6’3.75) and always inflated others. Then someone tells him he’s not 6’4 he doesn’t wanna hear it. I’ve seen it so many times it’s not even funny. He bartends and is on his feet at night and falls under 6’3”. There are times when I’m a about 1.5” taller next to him even in same footwear. On a very good day he’s 6’3” flat and it wouldn’t surprise me if he hits 6’2.5 or weak 6’3 on a day at an extreme low just as I hit 6’4” or a mm or so over on an extreme low
Canson said on 30/May/19
@Avi: that’s not absurd on your part at all. A lot of guys would rather 6’2-6’3 or even just 6’2” over 6’4”. I only choose 6’4” because I already am that. Now for me I would rather 6’4” flat or maybe even fall a small non measurable amount (in appearance) under 6’4” like 6’3 7/8 as opposed to the 6’4.25 that I currently am (a mm or so over 6’5 out of bed) only because in some of the thicker sneaks and boots I’m 197cm. But push came to shove and I’d take 6’4.25 over 6’2”
Johan 185 cm said on 30/May/19
Sakz said on 28/May/19
@Johan 185cm Do you just claim 6'1 then?


Yes I claim 185 ( 6'1) and noone believes me unless they are tall.
Most people seem to exaggerate nowadays by 4cm (1.5 inches) its a total joke.
Canson said on 30/May/19
@Cmillz: I agree with you. If it came to 5’10 and 6’5 I’d take 6’5 but 5’10 and 6’7 I’d take 5’10. I csnt Imagine how much attention i would get at 6’7” being I already get it at 6’4”. 6’7” would also be very uncomfortable for living. 6’5 however wouldn’t be much more than my 6’4.25 than I am now but if I had to choose between gaining and losing height from where I am now say if it were 2.75” in each direction I would take 6’1.5 over 6’7” so I’d lose height before gaining it. And yes there is a huge difference between 6’5 and 6’7”. One you can comfortable wear a thick pair of sneaks and maybe be 198-199 the other you’re 203-204 and hitting head on doorways.
Fouat said on 30/May/19
Hey rob,
Would a 5"8 guy feel average in england? Iv read somewhere that the average range is 5"8-5"10? So would he be seen as average height guy?
Editor Rob
At times you will feel average, but other times short - especially if you are in a group of 18-25 year olds in which the average is more a solid 5ft 10.
Matt Shannon said on 30/May/19
Hey Rob in one of your videos, Best and Worst Surface To Measure Your Height. Why did you get a different measurement at 3:35 when you were in the kitchen and at 4:40 when you were in the living room?
Editor Rob
There can be very small differences with floors/walls that can give you 1-2mm difference, even if they both look quite flat.
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 29/May/19
@Adrian 184

Well, at 5'10, I have experienced my own fair share of scenarios where I can tower most people, but instead of trying to lose height I just lower my head to make eye contact with them.
Greg said on 29/May/19
@Bego in U.S I see a lot of 5’6-5’9ish guys and maybe 5’1-5’5 girls. That’s insane how you are saying 5’11/6’0 are common heights I only see a few of those every now and then.
Kaysan said on 29/May/19
I think I grew 1/4 inch after 16 because I check my height ln late afternoon and then check it this year of 2019 which was April in the evening and I think have growth left what you guys think because I think I start puberty at 12 and almost 17 and turning June 6?
Chris brady said on 29/May/19
My cousins eye level is about 5-7 or 5.725 because his mom (my aunt) says she is that height and his eyes are at the top of her head.. I don't have my measure on me though. What range of height would he fall in?
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 29/May/19

That's not very common in my opinion. What I mean is, that's a variety. I would say that 5'8 is the most common male height that I see followed by 5'10 on occasion.
Kapp said on 29/May/19
I wouldn't say that there even is a most common height, human height is more variable than people think as opposed to people claiming 5'9 and 5'10 are the most common heights, I could totally come across 5'0 and 6'7 guys quite randomly, both of which are usually considered rare heights but I don't think they truly are, I think starting from something like 6'9 is rare, this word is overused, rare is more than something that you normally wouldn't come across which would be uncommon, rare is a height which you would see a few times in a year and in my opinion 6'7 and maybe 6'8 do not seem uncommon enough in the developed world.
Myself said on 29/May/19
Yeah, I have kinda the same habit sometimes, or at least I tend to slouch (mostly in the head/neck area) more with guys that are below 5'10. With my 6 feet friend I tend to have better posture though (I am 192.5-192.8 cm).
Johan 185 cm said on 29/May/19
Comparing heights up to 2 inches I think is ok even although thats a difference between low and high points of a height range but 3/4 inches is too great I feel.

Comparing 5'8" to 5'11" let alone 6' is a bit of a stretch. Under average compared to above average/tallish.

Its the same as comparing 6' to 6'3/6'4, completely different or 5'4 to 5'7/5'8.
Johan 185 cm said on 29/May/19
cmillzz said on 27/May/19
Also, a weak 5’9 guy isn’t a “5’8 range guy”


Weak 5'9= Strong 5'8
Greg said on 28/May/19
@Crab weak 5’10 as in 5’9.5-5’9.75”? That’s pretty much average if not a tad above in most places. I think someone might have been kidding when they called you tiny. I’m a weak 5’11/strong 5’10 and am usually referred to as tallish. I feel a solid above average when walking around also a lot of guys inflate themselves and others to try and make the claims believable most people don’t have a clue how tall someone is.
SD172 said on 28/May/19
As a man whose morning height is 5'8(173cm)then 171cm(5'7.5) in the evening hours, I tend to be extremely height conscience. I honestly feel short and would happily wish to be taller.5'11(181cm)seems to be a good height for a man not too tall or too short...However, I always wish that I was around 6'2(188cm).
I'm currently 23years old and it's weird to see teenagers(14-year-olds)now taller than me. It wasn't until recently that I discovered that there are several men my height doing well in life...Tom Cruise, Robert Downey Jr, etc who are also extremely height conscious.
According to this article: Click Here The average male Global height is 5'7.5(171cm)...which makes sense every time I'm at an international airport...I feel average but in other settings...I feel short.
Sakz said on 28/May/19
@Johan 185cm Do you just claim 6'1 then?

@Adrian 184 That would vary for everyone. I'm around that height and my brother is around 5'6 but I don't find myself losing height when talking to him. While around 7 inches is a big difference, it's not massive to the point where it looks weird. I can imagine to some people it may come across as a bit insulting if you're constantly lowering your body to talk to them, but I don't find myself doing it even if someone is much shorter. A lot of the time it's just instinctive and some people do it more than others.
avi said on 28/May/19
@Johan 185 cm said on 23/May/19

5'9 to 6'0 is that area where you are basically average.
But it seems a lot of people are never satisfied. A lot of people 6'5+ seem to wish they were shorter (sans those in sports who rely on it)
I think if you really fine tune the most ideal height in Western standards it is 6'1 to 6'2.5. A strong 6'3 is too big and 6'0 just isn't tall enough imo. Now for actual living it probably is 5'8 to 6'0. Generally people too tall or too short will be more at risk for health issues so I can't see a height like 6'3 or 6'4 ever being an optimal height.


I agree 6'7 isn't by any means a desirable height. Nor is 6'6. Normally 6'4-6'5 would the last height range where life is somewhat normal.
It's absurd to want to be taller than this.
It's strange that I would like to be 6'2-6'3 because I'd stick out more. And I'm an introvert. I don't like a lot of attention or anything that may draw it to me.
Bego said on 28/May/19
Guys in your places whats the most common height and heights you see? Most common height i see is 5'11" and 6ft among young but most common heights 5'8.5" to 6'2"
Johan 185 cm said on 28/May/19
Adrian 184 said on 28/May/19
When talking to people standing up in a group, at what height difference would you feel too tall? I sort of felt bad today talking to two 5’6 range guys at 6’0.75”. We were all in roughly equal footwear and I was actively trying to lose height to make the environment more easy going. Normally with mates my height, I stand quite well. Maybe I am underestimating the confidence of the other people. But if these people are insecure of their height, you can pick it up and the mood is worsened. Do other people experience this, either being the tall standout or the short standout?


I prefer to go sit down as its bad for your neck/back. I had it lately at a party where alot of people there were short. Once you're 5-6 inches taller I feel then its better to go take a seat. On the other end I don't stand around with many groups of 6'6-6'7" guys so wouldn't know. Same principle really though i would think.

cmillzz said on 27/May/19
why group 5’6 with 5’8 though? There’s a pretty massive difference between the two from my experience in real life and percentile wise. 5’6 is legit short, while 5’8 is in the average range.

I group them together because its heights that are below average but not so short that you have serious issues.

I then group 5'9"-5'11" together because you're in the average range from the lowest point to the highest. A 5'11" guy is not described as tall unless people are short, its average/above average at best.

The next range would be 6'-6'2" which also people would argue but again thats both sides of regular tall spectrum. Those are the regular tall people you see on a daily basis.
Bobby 5ft 10 said on 28/May/19

Ah, that's interesting. Yeah, I'm technically a weak 5'10 myself by CelebHeight standards, I've got a normal low of 5'9.75 and extreme low of 5'9 5/8s but I am usually 5'11 in most footwear, so I've always felt above average, even barefoot, a lot of times. I'd call myself tall average, if that makes any sense. I think that 5'10 is at the higher end of the average spectrum and enough to call yourself above average whereas 5'8 can be seen as being barely average height to solid average height. At least where I live, a good solid 5'8 looks to be the average height out on the streets and maybe 5'10 is average on a university campus here. I do know that 6'0 is almost always regarded as the start of tall, which makes 5'10 above average height and 5'11 at least tallish.
mrfunnyguy said on 28/May/19
To be honest, I don't think the average male height in Sweden seems to be anything below 6'2.
Kaysan said on 28/May/19
@Johan 185 Because I am 5'8.5 during the day but at night I grow back up to around 5'9 when I relax
cmillzz said on 28/May/19
I know you said you had a difficult time choosing between 5’7 and 6’7, but ultimately chose 6’7, which is understandable because you’re already very tall. But if choosing between 5’10 and 6’7, I’m guessing you’d take 5’10 at that point?
cmillzz said on 28/May/19
Yeah 6’7 is too tall and is getting freakish. 6’5 is okay though, and it’s still a pretty normal height, but definitely is very tall.

The difference between 6’5 and 6’7 is pretty huge to me in my opinion.
cmillzz said on 28/May/19
The fact that all it takes is a disc injury on just ONE disc to lose that much height is a bit unsettling to me. I almost don’t want to believe it.
Crab said on 28/May/19
@Bobby 5ft 10

Definitely. 5'9-5'11 (Might even broaden it to 5'8-6'0) is also the limbo of heights in which you are not short and not tall so you sometimes fall into either of those categories, depending on the context. I think the not knowing quite where you fall on the spectrum makes you more conscious of it, whilst if you are definitively short or definitively tall, you know exactly where you stand and can make peace with it.

I'm a weak 5'10 and have been called tiny before, but I've also been guessed at "well over 6ft". I think anybody who is 5'8-6'0 will experience a similar contrast from time to time, but since most people think in the dichotomy of "short" and "tall" rather than "short", "tall" and "average", you will get pigeonholed into one of the two, and obviously "tall" is the preferred one so you go out of your way to get put into it.
Crab said on 28/May/19
Rob, I know you say in the FAQ that you don't claim the height to be either their high or low, but is that different dependant on how much material there is online?

For example you've got guys on here listed at 5ft 10 who you think would measure at 5ft 10 at their lowest, but you've also got people listed at 5ft 10 who you think could be in the 5ft 9-10 range, so could dip well below 5ft 10. Is you guess for those guys more "vague" since there is less content for you to assess, or because you haven't assessed them as closely? It just seems some actors "get off easy" as it were, and get 5ft 10 flat listing despite looking anywhere from 5ft9-10, whilst others who are around the same height get 5ft 9 1/4 - 3/4.
Adrian 184 said on 28/May/19
When talking to people standing up in a group, at what height difference would you feel too tall? I sort of felt bad today talking to two 5’6 range guys at 6’0.75”. We were all in roughly equal footwear and I was actively trying to lose height to make the environment more easy going. Normally with mates my height, I stand quite well. Maybe I am underestimating the confidence of the other people. But if these people are insecure of their height, you can pick it up and the mood is worsened. Do other people experience this, either being the tall standout or the short standout?
Jdubbz said on 28/May/19
@James Brett 172cm

That's because 6'3.5 is in no way a freakish height. It's still really normal looking, at least from my perspective.
cmillzz said on 27/May/19
I disagree that 5’6 should be grouped with 5’8, and also disagree that 5’9 should be grouped with 5’11. In fact, I don’t really think 5’11 should be grouped with 5’10 or anything under, but to each their own.
cmillzz said on 27/May/19
5’11 is close to 6’0, yes. 5’9-5’10 really aren’t though.
Johan 185 cm said on 27/May/19
Kaysan said on 24/May/19
What time of day would your actual height be Evening, Afternoon, or Night?


People use those terms alot here but there are no strict rules for such things.

Example: I wake up in the week at 5.30am at 6'1.75 roughly and at 6.45am I am down to 6'1.25" - why? I am already working. Around 1pm I take lunch and have reached my normal low of 6'1" and this continues until night outside of a few mm's. Ofc if I hit the gym hard I will dip even further I have seen extreme lows of 6'0.75" but for that you really need to compress your spine, alot of people never see their extreme lows.

Now weekend - I get up at 9am clocking in at 6'1.75" I don't do alot just eating breakfast, chatting, Still 6'1.5" an hour later.

Around lunch I usually am down to 6'1.25" but in between I am sitting or resting in a chair/sofa.
Near night I dip to 6'1".
Canson said on 27/May/19
@Cmillz and C-Mo: I disagree about up to 6’7” being good. I think you could argue 6’5 still being decent for very tall (maayybee 6’6”) but 6’7” is too tall. You’d be hitting your head on doorways at that stage. I’ve always said it’s easier to gain height for a guy who is shorter and wants to be taller than it is to lose height for someone who is 6’7” needing to fit. My personal opinion is it ends at 6’5 barefoot at a low 6’6 in shoes. 6’6” in shoes is still manageable whereas every bit after is doorway territory. The sweet spot imho is (afternoon height) 5’10 flat up to 6’5 flat
Canson said on 27/May/19
@Kaysan: I tend to go with an afternoon measurement but what Rob uses is pretty adequate. 5 hours or so out of bed should only be about 1/8” above your normal low for the day. If the halves were used appropriately and not just for rounding people up, I would say that we could round in half inch increments based on where you fall in the spectrum. Example 5’11-5’11.25 afternoon = 5’11, 5’11.25-5’11 5/8 = 5’11 1/2, 5’11 5/8 = 6’0”. It’s just that people who claim half either round up or get rounded up. I measure 6’5 or a mm and change over the mark straight out of bed and 6’4.25 or a mm more in the afternoon and used to claim 6’4 1/2 when I was younger as my measurements would always come out around 6’4 3/8 or 1/2 but I got tired of hearing people ask either why do I bother with half or why not round up to 6’5”.
Canson said on 27/May/19
@Kaysan: I tend to go with an afternoon measurement but what Rob uses is pretty adequate. 5 hours or so out of bed should only be about 1/8” above your normal low for the day. If the halves were used appropriately and not just for rounding people up, I would say that we could round in half inch increments based on where you fall in the spectrum. Example 5’11-5’11.25 afternoon = 5’11, 5’11.25-5’11 5/8 = 5’11 1/2, 5’11 5/8 = 6’0”
cmillzz said on 27/May/19
Also, a weak 5’9 guy isn’t a “5’8 range guy”
Greg said on 27/May/19
@Canson well shorter people tend to over estimate or under.
Greg said on 27/May/19
@Adrian just pull out the tape and show them lol,

@Sean it would take about 6-8 months with a good diet and sleep schedule as well as training routine but in a year a newbie can gain up to 10-15 lbs of muscle depending on their regime.
cmillzz said on 27/May/19
Even from 5’6 to 5’7 the difference is pretty big despite it being only one inch. My dad is legit 5’7 and never gets called short, and commonly gets guessed at 5’8-5’9. On the other hand, a coworker I know is around 5’6 and does unfortunately get some for being a bit on the short side.
cmillzz said on 27/May/19
why group 5’6 with 5’8 though? There’s a pretty massive difference between the two from my experience in real life and percentile wise. 5’6 is legit short, while 5’8 is in the average range.
grizz said on 27/May/19
@Kaysan, 5-6 hours after you wake up (because, you know, some people work night shifts) is generally considered as an OK height to claim.
Myself said on 26/May/19
@James Edward Crowley
You can see in Hafthor's page on this site there's this guy in his early 30s, "Swede" if I'm not wrong, that talked about how he lost about 1 cm from his 20s due to competitive lifting like heavy squats/deadlifts. He did an MRI and it was visible how his L5S1 disc was smaller than it was supposed to be.
Sakz said on 26/May/19
@cmillzz I would agree with that, although some would argue 6'3 is the start of 'very tall' to them. It also depends whether you're talking based on the average or just by looking, since both can appear very tall if you're talking the latter.

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