General Height

avi said on 14/Jun/25
@Mike190 said on 13/Jun/25

Agreed that it seems 6'2 nowadays isn't the same as it was in past
Obviously now people have gotten taller
Due to nutrition and the additives in food (growth hormones) many of these kids growing larger and wider too at times.

So 6'4 definitely would have a better standout value that 6'2

5'11-6'1 is not that tall anymore.

However when we discuss ideal height I am discussing it in terms of "optimal height " for humans
What height is the "best" for daily living
I agree proportions are definitely a large factor
The 6'10ish guy you mentioned who looked 5'10 ish (average) from afar is interesting.
I was a way a few days and walked around the city (not a largely populated city but enough ppl to get a good height comparison going)
At roughly 6'0 I felt average at best
I saw a good bit of 6'1-6'3 men
A few 6'4-6'5 popped up
Didn't see anyone over 6'6 (I think! Lol)
One older guy (60s) looked about that range while I was sitting down
Didn't look good at all.

Anyway I saw men who from afar looked 5'10-6'0 but were 6'2-6'3 close


It's hard to imagine 6'10 can look 5'10! But I guess possible

However it's not relative. If you are 6'10 and look 5'10 or 6'1 or whatever it doesn't matter. It's still but no means ideal. Period.
6'10 will never be an ideal height as it's not an optimal living height..human body is not meant to be that large
We know for a fact cancer is more prevalent as well as joint, back and knees issues etc
So in my model I factor everything that comes along with the height
At 6'1-6'2 you really won't have issues
However the odds of having longer legs and trunk to the point of starting to wear down the body increase at 6'3+

I do agree that a badly proportion 6'2 (very long legs or very long trunk) vs a more balanced 6'3-6'4 man , the 6'3-6'4 many may be more "ideal" relative to that.
So I suppose it's not as "black and white" as 6'1-6'2 as ideal and that's it

But I guess in MOST cases many agree 6'1-6'2 is ideal
Some will say 5'11-6'1
Some may say 6'2-6'4
Many will not say 5'9-5'10
Or 6'5+

But yes if ones goal is to be basically taller than everyone than obviously 6'5-6'6 would win
But that is not the goal of defining ideal or.optimal height
It's about being tall enough and still being a versatile height and not detrimental to daily living and aging

So its a balance

Garrett Thompson said on 14/Jun/25
And lastly, the lot of you all need to touch grass. This website gets its fair share of crazies, schizos, autists, etc.

Stop underlisting people's heights so much (looking at you lot Canson, viper, jawilder, etc.)

And "Big" Rob, take care of your health. For a guy in his 40s or early 50, feel like running this degenerate autistic site does more harm than good (see Tarif and Greg Lurik). It's unfortunate what people on LooksMax.org have said about Rob and Jenny, but that reflects the degeneracy and obessive stupidity of the average user on here - fighting over millimeters and cringe 1/8 listings. No one can discern a 1/8 listing. Per my email, thompsongchess@gmail.com - the most you can discern is 1/4 if someone edges someone else LOL (that's crazy wording). When in doubt, list someeone higher and then downgrade by quaters as necessary.

I've already posted my email in other comment threads. But if anyone wants to disagree with my opinion and takes, feel free to correspons at thompsongchess@gmail.com

Goodbye everybody. May the schizo vision bless you all! - Garrett Arthur Thompson (self-proclaimed 6'3 / 190 guy)

c-mo 176-177cm said on 14/Jun/25
@adrianposter

i am about 5'9.25 at my low (can even fall slightly below that on harder days) and i live in germany and i dont feel short here nor do people perceive me as short . there are some situations when there are many tall guys around at the same time and in such situations i can feel below average but in general my height feels solid even here in germany . i talked about it a little in my last post here ....scroll a little down to see my post

grizz said on 14/Jun/25
@Aznn, good for you for going to a professional to fix your posture. 1st time I went there I had zero to none expections (fixing my neck pain was all I've asked for). But, lo and behold, not only he fixed my neck pain, he readjusted my vertebraes (that made me stand tall naturally), my brain started working without any setbacks, I felt more positive and confident, my fitness shape was so advanced that I felt like Captain America.
Honestly, I was shocked how much can deteriorated spine and posture destroy your entire life. I feel sorry for not taking the necessary measures during my puberty, my whole life would have been dramatically different now.

Garrett Thompson said on 14/Jun/25
Proper Height Bins in North America for men

Sub 170/5'7 = short
[170,175) / [5'7,5'9) = below average
[175,180) / [5'9,5'11) = average
[180,185) / [5'11,6'1) = above average / tallish (most girls will call you tall at this point, 180-183 guys are more above average and 183-185 guys more tallish)
[185,190) / [6'1,6'3) = tall / solid tall (with men 6'2+ being solid tall, while those in the 6'1-6'2 are still tall)
[190,195) / [6'3,6'5) = very tall
[195,200) / [6'5, 6,7) = giant
200+ / 6'7+ = if you're not in the NBA, you're cooked at this height - sorry Barron Trump

For women, the same bins apply, just subtract roughly 4 inches or 10 cm from each bin. So the start of tall for a woman begins around 5'9-5'10 (even though you'll have 5'7-5'9 women claiming they're tall, they're more above average / tallish)

Com said on 14/Jun/25
Rob, has the average height increased by an inch today? I’m seeing loads of people saying 5ft 10 is the new average

Gianni 5' 7 said on 14/Jun/25
Hi Rob,

How tall would you Say Is the guy in the middle if Rafa Leao is around 6ft2?

Click Here

Emil said on 14/Jun/25
@Andrea

You dug deep on the one haha.
And if she was almost 18 back then, I strongly doubt she has grown more. I always doubted she was over 6 feet

MatPit said on 14/Jun/25
Hi Rob, I was thinking about this height-related phenomenon and wanted to hear your opinion. I've noticed that across different countries with differing average heights people tend to perceive the average to be about 0.5 - 1.0 inches higher than what it actually is, even if we're talking about young adult averages only. I was wondering if this could be because we naturally pay more attention to taller people than shorter? I know that human mind is kind of threat-focused so we remember threatening encounters better than non-threatening ones so maybe we remember better moments when someone dwarfed us than moments when we were dwarfing someone. I feel like this happens both with male and female averages.

adrianposter said on 14/Jun/25
Hey Rob,

Would you say that 5’9 is a little on the shorter side for young western men nowadays?

Aznn said on 14/Jun/25
@Mike190 6'4" is when I had to check my height cause people were constantly commenting on it, I found it strange because I thought i was like 6'2 due to forward head and bad posture, but after I did some physiotherapy and gained back the height the difference was really big, at 6'2 you're solidly tall no doubt but 6'4 is when you can look over men's heads and go even a week without seeing anyone taller than you, even though 6'4 is equally 2 inches away from 6'2 and 6'6, I'd actually consider it closer to 6'6" in terms of perception because it's when you can look over men's heads, feel towering and as you're taller an extra inch makes less of a difference, people also say it depends where you live but genuinely in places like germany or poland i still felt equally as tall, it's also a height where sometimes I subconsciously slouch because if i stand up at my tallest sometimes i feel like i stick out a bit lol

bmb said on 13/Jun/25
Rob, no idea if this has been brought up but may take awhile for me to find it. But what is an average amount of shrinkage you get from first thing you wake up to lunch and dinner hours (say on a lazy day)? I'm thinking ⅝ and ¾ of an inch respectively, but I could be wrong.

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 13/Jun/25
@Mike190

I've seen it happen, but obviously much less often than with 6'4+. One time in college a girl of average height (5'5 or so) said to a guy while we were all waiting in line, "You're so tall, you're what, 6'3?" and he replied "6'2" and he looked like a solid 6'2 guy to me. He was east Asian, so maybe that made his height more noteworthy compared to a 6'2 white guy.

At 6'1 in the US it's just short enough that usually nobody will comment on your height or see you as "the tall guy" (even if they subconsciously acknowledge that you're on the taller side) and I prefer it that way. But of course, I can totally see why many people think 6'2 or even 6'4 is ideal.

grizz said on 13/Jun/25
Mike190
So my point is the ideal height is relative without a doubt. If you base your ideal height on the average proportions associated with each height, then sure it is somewhat indepenent. 6ft1 simply cannot be ideal if you live in the balkans where the average man is 187cm, nor where the average man is 161cm in central america.
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I'm from the Balkans (Croatia) and the average definitely isn't 187 cm, even if only young people were included. That's only correct for men in Makarska, a small 10k coastal city. Everywhere else the average is in 180-185, more closer to the lower end of the range.

And I can assure you, 185-188 cm is a very desirable height even for our tall Balkan girls. Sure, if you ask them about the perfect male height, they'll say 190. But they're not all too crazy about 195+ guys, most of them even prefer an 185 cm guy. What they insist on more than height is having some meat around the bones."What is a man without 100 kg" is a popular saying in our parts.

Andrea said on 13/Jun/25
That Marie Temara girl actually hinted that she got measured under 6' in 2012... Click Here

Sam the 5'11.75 said on 13/Jun/25
Hi Rob

How accurate are average height statistics and height percentiles?. Supposedly in the UK 5'10 is in the 99th percentile for a adult Woman and I just find this so hard to believe. I work in a retail store and I'd say the average being 5'3.5 and 5'10 being 99th percentile just seems wrong to me. Probably every one in 50 Women I see every day are at least 5'10 and would think 99th percentile is more likely 5'10.5.

Thoughts?. I live in the South. Do you think regional variation might explain this?

Gianni 5' 7 said on 13/Jun/25
Hi Rob

How tall would you estimate the shorter guy if Hakimi is 5ft11 flat?

Click Here

Emil said on 13/Jun/25
@Rob

You make a solid point.

I think I've found her old college profile. There it has her height at 6'1, which is believable. Anywhere between 6'0-6'2 is likely what she measures

Click Here

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 13/Jun/25
6ft3 in most countries should be heading into very tall range…..places like The Netherlands it’s a bit more common though so perhaps it’s on the slightly lower-end of tall, their equivalent to what 6ft-6ft1 is in Ireland/UK/USA…..but absolutely never ever outside of tall range

Giovannino said on 13/Jun/25
Hi Rob,
I wanted to share a recent measurement and get your opinion. Exactly 3 hours after waking up, I went to the doctor and they measured me 2–3 times under a stadiometer just to be sure. I checked myself as well, and I was somewhere between 184.5 and 185 cm — depending on posture. In the end, they recorded 185 cm on the medical form.

Since I play tennis, I was curious — if I were a celebrity, based on your way of assessing heights, where would you place me on the tennis players’ page?

Do you think 3 hours after waking up might be too soon?

thanks Rob

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 13/Jun/25
Can you add Tim Robinson, Rob? I watched the Friendship movie yesterday and he wasnt much taller than Paul Rudd. I Think 5'9.5 is a fair listing.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 13/Jun/25
I think 6'3 is start of very tall. Legit 6'3ers like Sacha baron look more than just tall.

Emil said on 13/Jun/25
@Rob

Ever come across the TikTok blogger Marie Temara who claims to be 7'0?

I honestly doubt she's even over 6'0 lol.

Here she is in what looks like 3" heels with Glenny Balls from Barstool Sports - Click Here

And Glenny doesn't look more than 5'5 range next to Floyd Mayweather. Maybe 5'6 on the dot with better posture - Click Here

grizz said on 13/Jun/25
c-mo 176-177cm said on 12/Jun/25
my height chart for non elderly men in the western world would be like this :
164 - 169 = short
170 - 172 = a little short . 172 more "average-ish" than 170 obviously
173 - 174 = below average but not short . maybe slightly so ...173 more so
175 - 180 = average / medium
181 - 182 = above average but not tall . maybe slightly so ....182 more so
183 - 185 = a little tall
186 - 191 = tall
192 - 193 = starting to get to approach the very tall range
194 - 199cm = very tall
200 - 205 = huge
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I'd say your chart is bang on the money.

Mike190 said on 13/Jun/25
6ft2 does not get "how tall are you" at all in my experience. Only maybe from short grandmas or third world immigrants. 6ft4 is where you start to stick out and your height becomes somewhat of an inconvenience, as well as a part of your identity. There are too many 6ft1-3 guys nowadays for 6ft2 to stand out.

I do agree though 6ft2 / 188cm just sounds right, aesthetic and is still a very normal convenient height. My late grandfather was 6ft2 and in the 50s it was a legit standout height. He towered over 95% of people in the photos I've seen of him.

The average North American man born in the 1930's was 173-4cm and the generation born in the 1980's and onwards are 178-9cm. That's a ~2.88% increase. In other words, 6ft2 in the 50's/60's looks the same as 6ft4 these days.

Just think about it, back then 6ft was widely considered the ideal height, whereas 6ft2 was very tall. That's why all the superheros that were created back then where made 6ft 1-3: Captain America, Batman, Superman, etc. If those superheros were created currently they'd all be in the 6ft4-7 range.

These days 6ft2 is generally considered ideal, with 6ft4 being the start of very tall. Although with the current dating culture it seems even 6ft2 is no longer enough for some women.

I also somewhat disagree that the ideal height is not relative. Every human has different proportions. I met this one giant man in the States a few years ago who claimed 7 feet (I think he was a weak 6ft 11), and from a distance I kid you not he looked like he was 5ft10. He had very very good proportions, a massive frame and attractive face. On him his height looked excellent.

I have another 5ft 6 friend who has extremely long legs & arms and a very short torso. In fact we compared wing spans and his was longer than mine (190cm), and he has size 14US feet. From a distance he looks like he should be well over 6ft.

So my point is the ideal height is relative without a doubt. If you base your ideal height on the average proportions associated with each height, then sure it is somewhat indepenent. 6ft1 simply cannot be ideal if you live in the balkans where the average man is 187cm, nor where the average man is 161cm in central america.

In conclusion: I think there are two ideal height ranges nowadays in developed countries.

If you value convenience and don't want to stick out 185-190cm is ideal, but if you want to be able to have your tall height as part of your identity 195-200cm is optimal. 190-195cm is a mix between both.

A good rule of thumb for determining the ideal height where you are is calculatte the ratio between the average man and woman and then multiply that by the average male height.

179cm/165cm = 1.085

179cm x 1.085 = 194cm (6ft4 and change)

c-mo 176-177cm said on 12/Jun/25
my height chart for non elderly men in the western world would be like this :



164 - 169 = short

170 - 172 = a little short . 172 more "average-ish" than 170 obviously

173 - 174 = below average but not short . maybe slightly so ...173 more so

175 - 180 = average / medium

181 - 182 = above average but not tall . maybe slightly so ....182 more so

183 - 185 = a little tall

186 - 191 = tall

192 - 193 = starting to get to approach the very tall range

194 - 199cm = very tall

200 - 205 = huge

Orf 5'9 1/2 barefoot said on 12/Jun/25
Hey Rob can you add the new prime minister of Canada? I personally think he is in the 5’9 range

Progking185 said on 12/Jun/25
@Mike190 I class start of tall as about an inch lower but yeah I get that. And as I mentioned below I think 6'1.5-6'2 is great lol

Aptz said on 12/Jun/25
Rob if the guy on right is 6’6(white guy) how tall you reckon the guy on the left is Click Here think the hair and the fact he is tilting his head up makes him look 6’4 but I reckon he looks around 190cm

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 12/Jun/25
@Progking185

6'1.5-6'2 is an incredible height aesthetically. Classic tall. I think I would still take a flat 6'1 over 6'2, though. Slightly more convenient for everyday life and strikes a good balance between being tall yet not standing out. A 6'2 guy will stand out a bit and start getting the "how tall are you" questions which is annoying IMO.

Gianni 5' 7 said on 12/Jun/25
Hi Rob. Italian football player Sebastian Giovinco Is listed 5 ft3 or 160 cm. How tall would you say is the guy beside him? Do you think they have similar footwears?


Click Here

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 11/Jun/25
When creating height categories it also depends where you live. I used to live in a village and there was a guy that went to the pubs whose nickname was giant. He was like 6'4.5. certainly a very tall guy but if this was in a big town or city he probably wouldn't be known as the giant lol.

rlheight5'11 said on 11/Jun/25
@Rob
What height looks imposing/impressive to you while out and about?

rlheight5'11 said on 11/Jun/25
@Rob
Yeah, London seems pricey these days and the scottish coast probably safer. My city has looked run down ever since the Covid pandemic.

bmb said on 11/Jun/25
Rob, in your opinion, which height should we use, if say we want to calculate BMI. Peak, low, or somewhere in the middle is ok? or if it doesn't matter at all?

Mike190 said on 10/Jun/25
Here are my categories for men in Northern America aged 20-40:


Little person: Less than 4’10

Extremely short: 4’10 - 5’0.5

Very short: 5’1 - 5’3.5

Short: 5’4 - 5’6.5

Below average: 5’7 - 5’9.5

Average: 5’10

Above average: 5’10.5 - 6’1

Tall: 6’1.5 - 6’4

Very tall: 6’4.5 - 6’7

Extremely tall: 6’7.5 - 6’10

Giant: Over 6’10


In my opinion, a guy isn’t truly short unless he’s under 5’7, and isn’t genuinely tall unless he’s over 6’1.


My rankings of the above height ranges from most desirable to least would be:

Tall Very tall Above average Average Below average Extremely tall Giant Short Very short Extremely short Little person

Progking185 said on 10/Jun/25
@Kevin6'0.25 I mainly agree with your chart, I think 6'1.5-6'2 is my "perfect" height, or say around 187 cm. Pretty tall but still kind of within the start of tall range and not standing out much. I've been around there as I'm 6'1.5 or bit over in morning. Legit that height is pretty tall and probably gets called 6'3 or even 6'4 by some hahaha. But I'm close enough at about 6'1 and barely feels like any difference.

Giovannino said on 10/Jun/25
rob a question, a 19 year old boy who wakes up at 7am in the range 186-186.5, in your opinion three/three and a half hours later if he goes to the doctor, so 10/11 am, how much can he measure? I ask you because tomorrow I have a medical visit from the doctor around that time.
thanks a lot Rob

avi said on 9/Jun/25
@c-mo 176-177cm said on 8/Jun/25


Hmmm that's a good point maybe be in a place where average height is more
6'4-6'5 may be suitable IF one wishes to still retain a solid tall position. But then get into being tall just to edge people out not for aesthetics.

But that's a good point
if more men let's say in a place like Holland or Croatia or something are 5'11-6'2 than perhaps 5'8-5'11 like in UK or US then being 6'1-6'2 won't have that effect of being tall.
But as I said it shouldn't matter if certain places 6'1-6'2 is hardly over average.
I think optimal height, imo, is not relative.
No matter where in world 5'11-6'2 zone looks great. I really think that's the optimal range
But as I said golden height is between 6'1-6'2 imo of course can deviate one inch either way IF proportions are good

6'4-6'5 just seems too massive. Even a legit 6'2 is huge

As you point on some people like Manganiello may have a good build for their height (and id rather be him with his build than 5'8 and similar build) but still fact remains at 6'4-6'5 issue smore project to pop up and you lose versatility and grace

Nothing can beat a 5'10-6'1 well built man who is balanced
Building muscle comes easier as well at heights that are closer to average.

As you said proportions are a big factor

So to your answer about being 5'9 better proportioned than 6'2 and not that makes sense because 5'9 and a good build can look damn good vs 6'2 and huge torso or super long legs and lanky
Or as you said about facial attractiveness a HOT 5'9 guy vs 6'1-6'2 and not good face obviously 5'9 with great face will propel them further 6'2



And yes if you are what 5'9.5ish then your 6'2 friend technically won't tower but it will be a large difference as you'd come up to his eyeballs probably if lucky eyebrows.
It probably feels like a large difference but when you see it doesn't look too bad
I haven't seen myself next to anyone that equivalent that be like 6'4.5 almost 6'5 for me. And that's rare to come about and have opportunity to be in picture or by a mirror / glass reflection with them
I had a friend 6'2-6'2.5 max had a pic with him years ago and I looked 2-2.5 shorter
Same footwear.
If he was 2 inches taller I'd be at his eyebrows probably like you are with your friend and I'd say it's a good difference but not a towering difference
Tower to me is 5.5-6 inches need to be



And yes I'm about 183cm - 6'0 flat
I hover between 5'11.8 and 6'0.25

My absolute low may be 5'11.75 but as I was telling Rob I been doing some stretches last 2 years or so hoping to hold 6'0 flat...

It's a decent height but it's not in my view the most optimal

If I was 6'1.5-6'2 I feel like that's what I'd feel most comfortable with
But to someone else they may think 5'11-6'0 is better than 6'2 or even 5'10 is better than 6'1 or whatever.

When I was your height age 16-17 I felt at times even over average. It wasn't like a world of difference when I was 5'9.5-.75 vs 6'0ish maybe because it took a long time for me to get from 5'9.5 to 6'0 into my twenties when I stopped.

So your height is solid. And definitely above average for your ethnicity
And yeah wouldn't worry about your arms or legs.
I too wish I had arms a little longer as they are like 5'9 wingspan
Seems like most my gain after 17-18 was torso
I'd say I'm fairly balanced proportionally. 32 inseam
Legs pretty muscular.

If I grew two inches in my torso I'd probably be considered a short legged 6'2 er ! Lol

What's your wingspan?
Also how tall is your dad and mom?

My dad is 5'9 peak possibly 5'9.2
My mom leak was 5'2 maybe weak 5'2
She's probably 5'1 now

My parental grandfather was supposedly 5'10.5-5'11 range
My maternal grandfather peak under 5'8
And my grandma's and great Grandmas 5'1.5-5'3 zone
I did hear my paternal great grandfather was 6'2ish (so 6'1-6'3 range let's say)
And some great uncles 5'11-6'2
They from war torn Poland

So I guess I can't complain too much...

HackGod10 said on 9/Jun/25
How much height do you think Yeezy slides and foam runners add?

sf181 said on 9/Jun/25
Could Tim Robinson get a page? He's listed 174 cm on IMDB and looks about the same as Paul Rudd in Friendship.

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 9/Jun/25
@Mike190

I'm in the US. I'm basing my height chart off of when I attended a mostly white university about 10 years ago.

Little person: 4'11 and below
Extremely short: 5'0-5'2
Very short: 5'3-5'5
Short: 5'6-5'7
Below average/shortish: 5'8
Low average: 5'9
Average: 5'10
Upper average: 5'11
Above average/tallish: 6'0
Tall: 6'1-6'3
Very tall: 6'4-6'6
Extremely tall: 6'7-6'9
Giant: 6'10+

6'3 and 6'6 are kind of in-between heights that could go in either category but I think there were too many 6'4+ guys at my university for a 6'3 guy to stand out that much. And 6'1 was really the bare minimum to be considered legitimately tall.

As a 6'0 guy, I often felt like I was in purgatory between average and tall while living on campus. Neither here nor there, hence why I gave it its own category. I feel like 5'8 would be a similar gray area kind of height.

rlheight5'11 said on 9/Jun/25
@Rob
I have read the scottish coast is better than Glasgow.

falsehero said on 9/Jun/25
Ron Paul consider any of these people for a page please


Alton Mason - 5’11 (lies 6’2)
Sam Sulek - 5’10
Jesse James West - 5’9.5 (Measured)
Alex Eubanks - ~5’9.5
Bradley Martyn - 6’0 5/8 (lies 6’3)
Togi - 6’0 3/4 - 6’1
Shizzy 6’0 3/4 (lies 6’4)
XQC - 6’0 (proven next to NFL player) (lies 6’2)
Marlon 6’2.5 (claimed 6’6)
Lamine Yamal - ?
Duke Dennis 6’0.5
Hasan 6’2.5 (small head)

Mike190 said on 9/Jun/25
Not sure what happened with my comment there. It's either a formatting issue or I'm being trolled.

labubu said on 9/Jun/25
Big Rob, do you know any ways to raise the height floor? For example, I've heard glucosamine as an option, and/or core strengthening.

I've heard cases of people 'growing' a half inch or so from optimizing posture i.e. yoga, but what do you think?

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 9/Jun/25
@rlheight5'11

Yeah there were a lot of older people for sure. If I walk around the mall I still feel tall but less so and will see more 6'1-6'3 young guys.

On casino floors on the reservations, I feel solid tall range but again it's a lot of older folk.

rlheight5'11 said on 9/Jun/25
@Kevin 6'0.25
I experience that sometimes myself, not as much around the youth though.

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 8/Jun/25
I went shopping at Costco a couple days ago and surprisingly only saw one person taller than me in the 30 minutes or so I was there. Went to a grocery store the next day (granted, I was only there a few minutes) and was tallest person out of maybe a dozen other guys I walked past.

Not the norm for me to see almost nobody than me in public places like that, but I just found it interesting and I think it goes to show that 6ft is still reasonably tall in the US.

bmb said on 8/Jun/25
Rob, would you say from the top of the skull to the eyebrows on average is 4 inches?

Mike190 said on 8/Jun/25
For the in UK/US/CAN/AUS/NZ what would your cutoffs be for little person, extremely short, very short, short, below average, average, high average, tall, very tall, extremely tall, and giant for young men (~20-29 years old)? This is a barefoot late-morning or early afternnon measurement as you would at the doctors office. Mine are as follows:



Little person: 6ft 10

c-mo 176-177cm said on 8/Jun/25
@avi

hmm i personally find 6'5 still good . it is "unnecessarily tall" but still a good height . especially if you live in a tall country . and if you have a heavy frame at 6'5 with a fit body you will look really strong and good . think of someone like joe manganiello . he also has a page here on celebheights

by the way here in our city there is a festival right now and i was nearby today with my friend who is 6'2 and we saw many people and i gave attention to height and compared my height with many men . my height felt very solid . i can say for sure that my height of about 176cm afternoon is not short even here in germany . there are times where my height can feel below average here but in general it is quite a solid height even here

i think my height is about average for my own ethnic group (Kurdish) for a young man .

i also looked at the reflections on windows / doors etc. of my 6'2 and me today and he doesnt tower me or something . he is taller but not as much as making me look short at all . 176-177 is definitely a solid height . just wanted to mention this . i am happy but i would still prefer to be between 179 and 185 afternoon/evening . with my current proportions and body structure ...i am very happy with my proportions and body structure . only my arms are a little too short and i would like to have a little longer legs but other than that i am very happy

you are 183cm evening right ? thats a perfect height . if you have decent proportions it doesnt get better than that to be honest imo


you asked :
"Guess it begs the question would you rather be a well proportioned 5'9 man (balanced legs and torso) or 6'2-6'3 long torso compared to legs, not looking as aesthetic in build?"


i would take to be a well proportioned 5'9 over a not good proportioned 6'2-6'3 . 100% it is not even close . same goes for 5'8 too i think . 5'7 i would have to think about it and i would take a not good proportioned 6'2 over 5'6

i would also take good proportioned 5'10 over good proportioned 6'5 and over and would take good proportioned 5'11 over good proportioned 6'3 and over . and maybe even over 6'2 but unsure on that

Matt N said on 8/Jun/25
My eye level for much of the day fluctuates around the 5’5.5” mark (maybe 5’5 5/8” or so 1-2 hours of out of bed and 5’5 3/8” by the afternoon. By the evening, it is no lower than 5’5.25”). Straight out of bed, my eye level does not exceed 5’6”, and is maybe even a fraction below (5’5 7/8” or so, perhaps 5’5.75” at very lowest?).

The tip of my nose is around 5’4” or fractionally below (perhaps between 5’3.75” and 5’4”) for the bulk of the day, my chin level sits at around 5’1” (although I’m less sure on this one), and my fringe/hairline is around 5’8.5” or fractionally below (slightly above 5’8”, but definitely below 5’9”).

What sort of height range seems plausible for me (I’m male, if it’s relevant) based on these proportions?

Unt0ld said on 8/Jun/25
I believe Sam Sulek is at least 5'9-10 range with potential for over 5'10.

With Arnold Click Here
Seemingly eye level with 5'9.5 measured Jesse James West Click Here
Has at least an inch on Jay Cutler Click Here

Also it's important to note if you watch clips like this that Sam wears super thin sneakers most of the time (I believe this is the same day he met Jesse too) Click Here

What do you think Rob? Potential he could be 5'10?

Wolfy said on 8/Jun/25
Hey @Rob i have to ask if i shoud face a digital stadiometer front or should i turn my back for a better measuerment?
I am around 194 cm when i face front but when i measure from behind i am 189
And i am 193-194 cm

avi said on 8/Jun/25
@Slim1.74m said on 7/Jun/25
@Rob could I recommend pages for Dwight Eisenhower & Harry Truman.

I agree with that!
Both very pivotal presidents

Both a big part of WW2 success as well.


Truman was not 5'9
5'8 seems more likely

Eisenhower I think was 5'10.25-5'10.5 until age 60s or so
With Nixon looked almost same and Nixon was 5'10.5

With Kennedy thought it was 1.5-2 inches shorter but he was in his 70s maybe was down to 5'9.5

5'11james said on 8/Jun/25
Rob, how tall do you think the late Japanese actor Ken Takakura was in his peak? He appeared in films outside of Japan such as “Ridley Scott’s Black Rain” (1989), and “Mr. Baseball” (1992).

He allegedly was 5’11, he’s been listed as that height everywhere on the internet. Even on his Wikipedia page.

Here’s a picture of him when he was in his prime, he gives me an impression that he was in the 5’10-5’11 range. And I don’t think he’d be the type of person to lie about his height if he was questioned.

Click Here

Giovannino said on 8/Jun/25
Hi Rob, how are you? I wanted to ask you something. A friend of mine told me that after 10 hours of restorative sleep, he quickly went to the wall and measured himself using an object on his head, being careful to do it properly. He said that after several measurements to make sure it was accurate, he came out at 6 ft 1 1/4.
After 5–6 hours, though, he drops to 6 ft 1/2.

He asked me: do you think it's accurate to say he's 184 cm in metric, or would it be better to tell people 185 cm?
Thanks so much, Rob, and sorry to bother you.

falsehero said on 7/Jun/25
Hello rob please make a page for these two people

Sean O'Malley

Sam Sulek

Slim1.74m said on 7/Jun/25
@Rob could I recommend pages for Dwight Eisenhower & Harry Truman.

avi said on 7/Jun/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

I come and go on this site
Things get busy
Hope you're doing ok


Yeah I totally agree proportions can be just as important

I really think 6'5 or 6'8 no matter it's just not good heights
It's too large and abnormal for every day living
Maybe if make money from it like basketball and volleyball

And to your point most men those ranges are going to have some facial issues
Or lanky or elongated looking.

There are well built 6'4-6'6 guys I've of seen (rarely) but to be anything in the optimal height range nah it's too much IMO

I'd rather be 6'5 than 5'5 or 5'7 or something though

184-185cm definitely good heights but I think 6'2 is still good
Getting past 6'2 or 188cm area into the 190s cm feel it's not as ideal

I did not see the height for vitruvian thought it was modeled after proportions where did you see it was 5'11 specifically?


But It's not the first time I heard 5'11 as the most aesthetic height
There was some study where 5'11 for man and 5'6 for woman was most optimal height so maybe there's something to that
It's definitely a solid height
But more definitely isn't always better
But if I had to choose right now what height I'd be probably choose 6'1.5 maybe 6'2

It's funny because I wouldn't look much taller probably especially if height in torso

Some people I've seen 6'2-6'4 range sometimes they get the height in the torso more and they don't look that tall

Guess it begs the question would you rather be a well proportioned 5'9 man (balanced legs and torso) or 6'2-6'3 long torso compared to legs, not looking as aesthetic in build?

rlheight5'11 said on 7/Jun/25
5’11” is a good height for men but it’s not all that tbh, still tall enough to look kind of tall until the taller guys come around. Height doesn’t mean strength, I think some want to be well over 6’ to have this super imposing look, it’s not my thing.

Chris Paul said on 7/Jun/25
Hey Rob,
How tall does UFC fighter Alexander Volkov look with Brian Shaw, Eddie Hall, and Shavkat Rakhmonov
Click Here
Click Here

Mike190 said on 7/Jun/25
Rob, in the spirit of the NHL Stanley Cup Finals could you please add some hockey players? I think the GOAT Wayne Gretsky, and the current best player Connor McDavid should be the first on the list.

Gretsky was listed at 6ft, but is allegedly 5ft 11 barefoot.

Here he is with Reagan 1982: Click Here

and here with Trump in 2024: Click Here

McDavid is listed 6ft 1 and I think he looks just under it.

With 6ft 4.5 listed Milos Raonic in 2016: Click Here

and here with Gretsky himself in 2023 who has probably shrunk a fraction in his 60s: Click Here

Tallishguy said on 7/Jun/25
Hi Rob. I’m now 22, turning 23 in 2 months. Through puberty I was not one of the guys with sudden big growth spurts, instead I was growing slowly and steadily. I started measuring myself every year from like 19 to now and every year there were micro gains in height like halfs of centimeter. So when I saw that I was expecting same every year. So now I want to ask you - would it be realistic for me to accept my present height as my final adult height and not expect more?​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Yongzhong26 said on 7/Jun/25
Hi Rob

How tall would you say Jean-Jacques Burnel from The Stranglers is?

rlheight5'11 said on 7/Jun/25
@Rob
I would prefer to move to a quiet town rather than live in the city. From research, some towns have surprisingly handy shops and cafes, even takeaways.

Anon 184.5 said on 6/Jun/25
Hey Rob, great to see the comments back on. Hope all is well. I’m interested casually in the bodybuilding scene and two up and comers I’d like to see listed would be Urs Kalecinski and Sam Sulek. I have heard Urs (German) claim “5’11” and a quarter” in a youtube video. I think Sam has claimed 5’11”. He looks a little shorter than Urs. Recently I discovered threads online suggesting Sam was as short as 5’8 to 5’9 so I wanted to hear your expert opinion. Thanks - A

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 6/Jun/25
There's a lot of people on here and in general that would rather be super tall than short. Give me 5'6 or 5'7 anyday over 6'8 or 6'9. At an average of 5'9.5ish though id rather be extremely tall than extremely short, I'd rather be 6'7 than 5'0.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 5/Jun/25
@avi

hi mate . hope you are well too

in my opinion 6'5 is still a pretty good height . not ideal but still good . i even find up to 6'8 decent if you can pull it off . and it is better than being short for sure

in my experience 5'11 - 180cm looks actually the best as i said often before . it is the most aesthetic height and i think there is a reason why the vitruvian man is 180cm

however the problem with 180cm as i said is that when very tall men are around you will look a bit short next to them . but i would still count 179-180cm as an ideal height

but IF you have good proportions and a good build and good facial / skull aeshtetics then the ULTIMATE height is around 184-185cm . nothing beats a harmonic looking 184-185cm

so for me the ideal range is something like 179 - 185 at nighttime

186 - 191 is also phenomenal if you can pull it off . but a good proportioned and good looking 175cm is better than a taller height with bad proportions and not so good looks

to make it simple i would list height like this : (assumed that the proportions and face is good at every height)



all night heights :

172cm = meh . not (really) bad but slightly short

175cm = decent height

178cm = good height

181cm = very good height

184cm = perfect height

Gerald S said on 5/Jun/25
Rob, what’s your estimate on Ginger Baker’s peak?

Has been described as 6’4” in places but from what I’ve seen, 6’2” or less seems more arguable.

grizz said on 5/Jun/25
@Rob, could measurement after such conditions be considered as my absolute lowest height: after 1 hour of walking, 50 min of moderate exercising, 2 hours of moderate housework?

sf181 said on 4/Jun/25
Tim Heidecker is worth a page. Listed 6' but maybe more like 5'11?

avi said on 4/Jun/25
@Mike190

Mike, no 6'1-6'5 is too broad and high a range

5'11-6'2 as per my other comment

6'3-6'4 (legit) is fairly large and will stick out a lot
Can't be ideal

Male models are 5'11-6'3 generally.

Agreed clothes fit for 6'1-6'2
6'3 may be pushing it
But actually 5'9-6'3 is VERY easy to find clothes
At ~6'0 I have no issues
32 inseam generally is what I take
Large or medium shirts depending on brand
Since my wingspan less than height a bit sometimes they make sleeves too long on some coats or jackets


You speak of height of models but it's not height only it's also proportion, bones,build, obviously face

To c-mo point there is a negative relationship (to a certain degree) between height and facial aesthetic
sometimes larger men have a face that can seem slightly elongated or "acromelagic "
Perhaps due to excess growth hormone release during puberty

So it's not black and white

But 6'4 plus definitely too much for ideal model


@c-mo 176-177cm said on 24/May/25

200-205 cm (legit) is HUGE
Can look freaky past 6'4-6'5 depending on proportions and build of person.

Other issues come up past 6'4 especially more prominent as one nears 6'10-7'0

Back, joint, knees etc are part of issue but cancer risk, heart pump ability
Blood clots etc
Another reason why 5'11-6'2 would be highest I'd say

avi said on 4/Jun/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

How you've been well.

I agree that ideal range is probably 5'11 at least
So 181cm maybe solid 5'11
185 is barely 6'1

I think your range needs to bump to 187cm

So 181-187cm
That's basically 5'11 to weak 6'2
I do agree once get over a certain height the chances or facial aesthetic decreases as well as proportions issues

It's hard to pick ONE height as ideal

Like I can't say that 6'1.5 is optimal height in ALL circumstances
Though I believe it is probably in this day in age

But a range is more realistic because it's not just height it's the proportions, weight, body muscle mass, bone structure etc

But 5'11-6'2 seems a good range

I really fail to see how 6'3-6'5 zone can be ideal these "gym bros" are out of touch
I see no circumstance where 6'4-6'5 is desirable even in Holland.
It's still too large for the human body.

5'10 is a decent height and your height is average
You may want to be a bit over 180cm but as someone who is 183cm ish it's good but it's not THAT much different
A lot of men are eye to eye with me
And still a good bit 2-3 inches

So your point about the 191 or 193cm + dwarfing at 180cm is a good point
Even 183cm someone 193cm is about 4 inches taller and I feel quite small
Feel smaller than it probably looks

But the goal I don't think is to just be taller so no one is taller than you
That is not necessarily a good thing
Objective to "height mog" or something.

But that's why I think 186m or 187cm is a height where you have to be over 6'5 to really make someone feel really small
A classic 6'1 may be the best as it's versatile and not overly tall
Facial features most likely not stretched by excess growth hormone/ testosterone effects
Those saying 6'3-6'5 say it because objective is just primitive instinct to be taller than most and not thinking of the factors like proportion and none construction etc
Which also come into play


Anyway that's my view on it

simlest12 said on 4/Jun/25
Thanks for the insight rob, I'll claim about 5'10 or 177 from now. Wanted to ask if you know anything about how to retain morning height - would yoga, stretching, and glucosamine help me? I want to not dip below 177 at night, and do have a bit of anterior pelvic tilt when I stand straight - working on improving my core and posture as of late. I've searched online and glucosamine seems to be tossed around as an option to retain more morning height.

avi said on 4/Jun/25
@Rob

Should Olivier Rioux who is worlds tallest teen severe a page?
Claims 7'9

Saw him next to Mr. Beast on Nicholsons son page
I think 7'7-7'7.5 makes Sense
If 7'9 in basketball ball shoes which give 1.5-1.7 inches if imagine

rlheight5'11 said on 4/Jun/25
@Rob
That’s fair, considering you’re just outside gsw.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 3/Jun/25
I think nathan fielder is worth a add Rob, he's become more welcome known in recent years. His 5'11 claim could be earlier in the day in shoes. I think 5'9.75 is a good shout.

simlest12 said on 3/Jun/25
Hey Rob,

I am a bit confused on what height I should claim. I've been measured with a stadiometer at the doctor's around 45mins after waking at 178.6cm, but with a measuring tape and home measurements either by myself or others I am getting around 176cm or 176.5cm at night before bed. This confuses me because my eye level is around 166cm at night, and I thought that the eye level is typically 4.5 inches shorter than the top of head.

Does this mean I am 179cm in the morning right out of bed, and what height can I claim? Is 178cm a fair claim or would 177 be more appropriate?

bmb said on 3/Jun/25
Rob, would you say about 5ft 5 would be a typical eye level for my height?

Tallishguy said on 2/Jun/25
@Mike190

I heard that he used a invention table for some time before that measurement, so he somehow temporarily increased his height. So in usual life he is never as tall as what was measured.

Drewy said on 2/Jun/25
Hey rob, what celebrities would I be looking eye to eye with having a 171 cm eye level at my morning height of 184 cm and having an eye level of 170 cm during my evening low- my height at my evening low is 182.5 cm.

Giovannino said on 2/Jun/25
Click Here



Hi Rob, do you think the guy in the middle could really be 187 cm tall like Google says? I’d be curious to know what height you’d estimate for him just by looking at him. Thanks a lot for your time, Rob.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 2/Jun/25
@sf181

Could be an in shoe claim or a lie. I think he looks a weak 5'10 on Nathan for you. I think he's my height or a tad taller at 5'9.75 but I'm not buying full 5'10 let alone 5'11.

Mike190 said on 1/Jun/25
@Tallishguy

Chris Bumstead was measured 6'1 & 3/8ths (rounded to 6'1.5) at Mr. Olympia 2024. I think it was an early morning measurement personally and he's 6'0.5 but can look 6 foot flat bc of his posture and physique.

Gorgoroid said on 1/Jun/25
Hi Rob, i wake up at around 178, spend most of the day around 176.6-176.8 and i’m 176cm flat at the lowest after standing and sitting for 8+ hours. Is weak 5’10” a fair claim?

tinnho said on 1/Jun/25
Rob, a guy who wakes up at 1:12 PM after an 11-hour sleep, has lunch and then, one hour later at 2:12 PM, measures himself against a wall using an object on top his head. With excellent posture, he measures 185.8 cm.
According to your website, what height would most likely be listed for him?
What is the most probable height he would get?

Thanks a lot!

Chris Paul said on 31/May/25
Same guys here at 1:00:36. How much is the difference?
Click Here

Chris Paul said on 31/May/25
Hey Rob,
What would you say is the height difference between both guy at 1:14:50
Click Here

sf181 said on 31/May/25
How about Nathan Fielder? Claims 5'11" here: Click Here

TL said on 31/May/25
hey Rob how tall do you think Grian Chatten is from Fontaines D.C.?

Bo Chow said on 31/May/25
Hi Rob!

Could you add Young Mazino? Starred in Beef and The Last of Us.

Click Here

He is listed as 6ft and 174 pounds (probably heavier now, he bulked up for his more recent roles), and he can easily look what his Resume claims next to Steven Yeun, and Gabriel Luna, the later of whom is close to his height, but Young looks taller still.

bmb said on 31/May/25
@Rob What term fits if say they don't fall much under the half integer? Does a solid x and a half work?

rlheight5'11 said on 31/May/25
@Rob
Why don’t you plan to live there? You could always move to a seasidey town.

grizz said on 30/May/25
I second the idea for adding Cro Cop and Fedor.

Also, Bryan Johnson, then man who wants to live forever, is getting increasingly popular. There are a couple of pictures of him with Dana White and other celebrities for height reference.

rlheight5'11 said on 29/May/25
Hopefully we see Bobby and sandy post again. They were here before me .

Tallishguy said on 29/May/25
Rob can you make a page for a Canadian bodybuilder Chris Bumstead, he is well known and has a few videos where he is measured taller than his claim and what people guess him. Also you can add some mma Pride legends like Mirko cro-cop Filipovic and Fedor Emalianenko, they also have false heights on web.

rlheight5'11 said on 29/May/25
@Rob
I would prefer quieter shopping hours too, I live with parents.
I’m not a big fan of queues and kids running around the shops.
And …You live in a quite quiet town, maybe settled down town?

tinnho said on 29/May/25
Hi Rob, i hope you're doing well.

I just wanted to ask a quick question.Let's say a very famous celebrity claims to be 184.35 cm tall, and they measured themselves late in the day(7:46 PM), after having been awake since 7:10 AM. Based on how you evaluate heights, how tall would you list someone who measured 184.35 cm at that time of the day? Would you round them to 6'0.5", 6'0.25", or list them as a weak 6'1"?

Thanks for your time and all the work you do!

James B 172cm said on 29/May/25
Rob on the UK is it rare for legit 6'4 guys to claim 6ft5?

Tangman said on 28/May/25
Rob, in your honest opinion, what do you think is the actually average height for a male in the US? wiki says 5'9 but i wonder if it would be shorter considering most measurements are in the morning

Ziren said on 28/May/25
Hey Rob. Would you mind adding the MMA fighter Tom Aspinall to your page sometime? Also how tall do you think he is? I think 6'3.75-6'4 maybe..

Aznn said on 28/May/25
Hey rob, is an eyelevel of 180.5-181 typical for a 6'4 guy?

falsehero said on 27/May/25
Rob please add XQC who is a solid 6ft to 6ft flat. here he is with 6ft 1/8th measured football player

Click Here

Yongzhong26 said on 27/May/25
Hi Rob

I measured 172cm flat yesterday at 4pm (been up for quite a while). Am I too low to claim 5’8?

rlheight5'11 said on 27/May/25
@Rob
Good old routine , I kinda have a routine myself but I don’t schedule it. You go to the shops at the quietest time of the day. Is your town busy during the day? Out of curiosity.

MD said on 26/May/25
@Rob,

How tall do you think the main cast of the new The Librarians series are? The men look averagish-to-short, and the women look above average, to me.

Click Here

Bluey Robinson looks rather short. Here he is with Liam Payne:

Click Here

And Labrinth:

Click Here

Though on the show, he can almost come off as average height. Which means that that is probably the max for Callum McGowan.

Caleb 5'10.25"/178.7cm said on 26/May/25
@Philip Z and Editor Rob

I doubt Caitlin Clark is taller than I am.

Kevin 6'0.25 said on 26/May/25
@viper

Yeah, I can agree with 5'9 being the average, maybe 5'9.25. But at my workplace everybody is tall AF for some reason so I don't even feel tall there. We have two women who are 6' and a bunch of 6'2-6'4 guys.

If I walk around some place like a fairground, mall or an airport I feel comfortably above average like 85 percentile.

Gav16 said on 26/May/25
Hey Rob, I'm just curious, has one (or more?) of the celebrities you've listed ever contacted you, or tried to because of their listing on here?

Yongzhong26 said on 26/May/25
Hi Rob

What would you say British rapper Central Cee height is? Online it is listed as anything between 5’6 to 6 feet. Will be good to have your verdict on it

Canson said on 26/May/25
@Editor Rob: another example is Julius Randle. He was listed 6’9 when he came into the league and dropped to 6’8 in 2019 when they remeasured. He was listed 6’8 from 19 until 24 when he was traded to Minnesota. He measured 6’7.75 at combine and now that he was traded to Minnesota from New York they list hjm at 6’9 again. Randle next to Kobe was at most 3” taller than him so he definitely didn’t grow between last yr and this yr at 30 something. What it is is that the nba is relaxed on the measurements. There is no consistency. Some teams list with shoes on. Look at Bradley Beal and Devin booker snd KD

Kd measured 6’9.5 with the nets and was listed 6’10 through his first season in phoenix. When Monty Williams left and Vogel came as coach they bumped him to 6’11”

Bradley Beal was listed 6’3 in 2019 and admitted he’s that. He was bumped to 6’4 at some point

Booker measured 6’4.5 and was listed 6’5 in 2019. He’s back up to 6’6 now

Shai is lanky so he looks taller than he is at times. He is no taller than Jalen Williams tho at 6’4.5”

Canson said on 26/May/25
@Editor Rob: he didn’t grow. He called Jalen Williams who measured the same as he did 6’4”. He said “our height”. shai looks same physically as Michael Jordan did just a lot thinner. In 2019 when they remeasurrd everyone some players didn’t change. Look at harden and Westbrook and Lebron got taller. Shai looks what he measured as that is likely near a low for him. With Williams and SGA it is touch and go. At times SGA can look taller but Williams does in other pics

Click Here

Gianni 5' 7 said on 26/May/25
Hi Rob,
If Bonucci is around 188 cm, how tall might be the guy beside? Thank you very much

Click Here

Click Here

5'11james said on 26/May/25
Rob, would you please give Mike Shinoda from Linkin Park a page?
I think he’s anywhere between 179.5-181.

He looked around an inch taller than 177.2-178.5 Chester Bennington.
Click Here

Gianni 5' 7 said on 26/May/25
@Mike 190
Talking about Italy, I'm quite sure that the average height of the young generation (18-25 y.o) is no more than 5 ft9.5. If the average was over 5ft 10, we should have had more guys who are 6 ft and taller than 5ft8 and under. But it's the opposite: young men who are 5ft8 and shorter are still MORE common than 6 footers. How many young guys are 6ft and taller? I'd say one out of five, and I'm being generous. How many are 5 ft8 and shorter? From what I've seen I'd bet they are very close to 30th percentile. At 5 ft7 (170 cm afternoon height) I still find that I'm around 20th percentile when I'm among young crowds (One out of five is shorter than me). And I'm talking about NORTH Italy, where the population is taller

falsehero said on 26/May/25
Add streamer XQC. He is around 6ft exactly. Here he is with a NFL player who measured 72.13 inches.

Click Here

Mike190 said on 26/May/25
@MaskDeMasque 5'9.5

Fun question, both are somewhat famous people actually. Tallest male that I've ever seen was Olivier Rioux in an airport just a few months ago who claims 7ft 9 in shoes. I think he's somewhere between 7ft 6 and 7ft 7 barefoot. Tallest female was Ekaterinia Lisina in a hotel elevator a few years ago, and she's a weak 6ft 9 as listed.

If I go to the biggest mall in my city and walk around all day I will normally see at least one woman over 190cm and man over 205cm.

falsehero said on 25/May/25
Hello rob. Im happy to see you return.

Take a look at alton mason. He is a model who I believe is 5'11 at max but he is listed aat 6'2.

Here he is with 6ft jordan barrett

Click Here

Here he is wearing giant boots with 6ft austin butler

Click Here

He also is always wearing heels.

Mike190 said on 25/May/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

Just curious what part of the world do you live? In my country the average young male is ~179cm (barefoot measured, not self reported).

Breaking down the statistics roughly:

-3SD (0.2 Percentile): 157cm / 5'1.75"

-2SD (2.3 Percentile): 164cm / 5'4.5"

-1SD (15.9 Percentile): 172cm / 5'7.75"

0SD (50.0 Percentile): 179cm / 5'10.5"

+1SD (84.1 Percentile): 186cm / 6'1.25"

+2SD (97.7 Percentile): 194cm / 6'4.5"

+3SD (99.8 Percentile): 201cm / 6'7"


In my view, nothing less than +1SD can be considered "tall", therefore it cannot be considered optimal. Like you, I agree anything beyond +3SD is too much, however it's still better than being -1SD or shorter. As a man in his 20s, +1SD seems to be the average height in nightclubs. I encounter more men in the +2SD range at parties, than men in the -1SD range. Of course this is not representative of the true average, given the fact that taller men tend to go out more because they have a much higher chance of sucess than their shorter counterparts. But still, this shows just how important height is in this day and age.

I have a rock solid 6'6" / 200cm friend (claims 6'8"), who is skinny fat, with an average face, is not particularily confident or outgoing, yet when we go clubbing he gets approached by women regularily just based off his height alone. He sticks out and women are drawn to him immediately, whereas I completely blend in the crowd and go unnoticed at 6'2".

So all in all I think +1SD - +3SD is the ideal zone to be for your respective country, with +2SD probably being the sweetspot. Less than +1SD is not tall, and more than +3SD is too tall.

Kevin said on 25/May/25
@LB

That's a lot of height to lose so quickly. I'm only 160lbs and about 185.7cm immediately out of bed. After 2 hours being awake I'm usually 184.5cm. If I'm working and on my feet all day I can hit my normal low of 183.5cm after about 7 hours. 183.2cm I can sometimes hit at an extreme low if it's an especially strenuous day. If I'm just lounging around the house on my day off I can still hold the full 184cm at bedtime.

Purely anecdotal, but my dad used to be 6' in his youth and nowadays at age 62 looks like he's about 5'9. He is 300lbs. Not sure if he's actually lost 3 inches of height or if it is partly due to bad posture because of his weight. Either way, I'm guessing being overweight is probably not great for height loss because of the extra stress on the spine.

viper said on 25/May/25
adrianposter said on 25/May/25
I feel like nowadays, 5’9 isn’t really the “average” height anymore especially among young men. I’d say it skews more towards 5’10-5’11 now.


It's definitely the opposite from what I see whenever I go to University of Maryland sporting events. I see more 5-5-5-6 white students than ever.

Average looks 5-9 to me

Kevin said on 25/May/25
@c-mo

Not often in the US. On my last trip to Las Vegas I saw only one guy who looked 6'7 or 6'8. He wasn't skinny. Medium build and well proportioned, in fact. I also saw two women taller than me who I would've guessed to be 6'1-6'1.5 and 6'3 respectively. Obviously Las Vegas is a crowded tourist destination and I spent several days there walking around the strip, so I think it's safe to say a genuine 6'7+ is pretty rare.

Canson said on 25/May/25
@Editor Rob: how about an add for Shia Gilgeous Alexander? Listed 6’6 but measured 6’4.5 at combine and 6’5 at Kentucky. Looks 6’4.5” most of time

Click Here

Chris Paul said on 25/May/25
Hey Rob, how tall do you think WNBA player Cameron Brink is she’s currently loses at 6’4 and some think she could be a lil higher. Hopefully gets a page soon,

With Jimmy Butler:
Click Here

With Lonzo Ball:
Click Here

Philip Z said on 25/May/25
Rob, would you mind adding a page for Jeff Nippard? Dude gets looked up a lot.

Here he is next to 6ft 0.75 Larry Wheels: Click Here

Both in socks and standing upright, so doesn't get better than that. He's usually described anywhere between 5ft 6 and 5ft 3, but something like 5ft 2.5 is probably closest to what Nippard actually measures.

adrianposter said on 25/May/25
I feel like nowadays, 5’9 isn’t really the “average” height anymore especially among young men. I’d say it skews more towards 5’10-5’11 now.

rlheight5'11 said on 25/May/25
@Rob
Do you still stick to your old routine ? Getting up at 5am to work on celebheights? Since allowing comments back. I use my phone earlier these days but often find myself falling asleep earlier at night.

Philip Z said on 24/May/25
@Paul NS (6ft 0.5)

I wouldn't be surprised if Letterman is down to 6ft flat by now. If so, Clark's looking at most 5ft 10 there. I think anywhere in the 5ft9-10 zone is where she'd end up, and that range would also track with how she stacks up next to Angel Reese (6ft 3), for instance.

LB said on 24/May/25
How quickly does everyone here fall to their low height?

Measuring recently straight out of bed I hit 186-186.2cm but within a couple of hours I’m already down to 183.5, and that’s where I usually end the day give or take a few mm. Do you think being over 300lbs and having a few posture issues (hyperlordosis) is contributing to how rapidly I hit my low?

c-mo 176-177cm said on 24/May/25
today there was a guy in the supermarket who was above 200cm . probably like 205cm . who knows maybe even a little more like 209 - 210 but he was for sure not below 200cm . my guess is 205cm . he was VERY VERY tall

and he was very slim and had a narrow build . it really didnt look good at all . he looked odd

how often do you see men above 200cm ? here in germany it is not all that rare to see them to be honest . not long ago there was another guy i saw in another supermarket who was around 203cm or so too

such very tall heights make you stand out a little . like it is like "dude where the f*** is your head"

as if their head is so much up in the sky that they are in a different place from other people lol

Cooper Clarke said on 24/May/25
Can Anesongib get a listing on here please Rob? He's clearly about 5’8 range as he's claimed 5’8, has measured 5’8 before, and looks roughly 5’8.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 24/May/25
I have a question for Rob and for everyone here, what's the tallest male and female you've ever seen? Tallest guy I've seen was my old college mate who was 6'9 and the tallest girl ive seen was in the high street last year, I reckon she was close to 6'3, prob 6'2.5-6'2.75 range.

joec193 said on 23/May/25
@Rob How tall does this guy on Kill Tony look next to the tape measure?

Click Here

montana16 said on 23/May/25
Rob how tall would you say the streamer jay cinco is
theres pics of him next to kai cenat on his instagram

Paul NS (6ft 0.5) said on 23/May/25
@Philip Z

I can believe Clark at under 5ft 11. With David Letterman, who isn't much over 6ft today: Click Here Click Here (crappy video: Click Here

rlheight5'11 said on 23/May/25
@5'11james
I’m that height 6 hours of bed and 181.5 on a good day.

Okidoki said on 22/May/25
@Rob Hi, how are you. According to sone stats, the average for 19+ is around 178-181 with around 177 cm somewhat less etc though.

Does that mean most in the West are around this though?

Wolfy said on 22/May/25
Rob should a person claim their morning or evening height? I am about 194.5 cm in the morning, what height should i claim?
Thanks

Anp said on 22/May/25
@Phillip Z; Looks sub 5ft 10 with Aaron there

James B 172cm said on 22/May/25
I had a friend once who was 6ft4.5-6ft5 and he was certainly not gigantic just a tall lanky guy.

Philip Z said on 21/May/25
Rob, any guess on Caitlin Clark? Listed at 6 ft, but seeing her next to 6ft 7 Aaron Judge, that figure doesn't really add up: Click Here

American guy said on 21/May/25
Rob I had a doctor appointment today at 10am and woke up at 7 am and measured 173 cm. Can I claim 5’8?

Bo Chow said on 21/May/25
Greetings again, Rob!

To add to Tenoch Huerta (Mejía), someone now edited his height on IMDb to now display as 6’ flat.

Also, looking back at him and Simu Liu’s pics, he is actually noticeably taller than him, and is even slouching a bit to try to close that distance!

I’d say somewhere between 5’11 and 6’0 would fit Tenoch, where exactly in that range? I honestly cannot tell haha.

Thanks again!

Bo Chow said on 21/May/25
Greetings, Rob!

Any chance you could take a look at and add Tenoch Huerta (Mejía)?

Namor from the MCU and one of the lead actors in Narcos: Mexico (and has a prolific career in Mexican cinema and television in general)

Someone on IMDb has been editing his height between 5’7.75, 5’9 flat, and 5’10.75, with that last listing being the most likely.

There are several pictures out there of him standing next to 5’10.5 Simu Liu both in equal footwear, and Simu standing higher on an uneven runway, and Tenoch still manages to edge him out by an iota.

Thank you!

Gav16 said on 20/May/25
Hello sir,

Just wondering, what time of day do you believe is most accurate to measure your height for comparison to the average? Late morning, afternoon, evening? If I'm not wrong, I'm assuming it's from clinical data, so probably the range of afternoon about when most get their appointments?

Chris Paul said on 19/May/25
Hey Rob,
What would you say is the height difference here?
Click Here

serry said on 19/May/25
Rob on your sneakers page I noticed you don't have sneaker height for Nike Air Max Excee. I always considered myself 6'4" but when I went hospital I was measured just over 196cm (6'5") wearing the Excee (this was around 2pm and was awake for about 7 hours). The sneaker height seems just over an inch so maybe I'm wrong!

Gianni 5' 7 said on 19/May/25
Hi Rob,
Ant thought about italian legendary fashion designer Giorgio Armani? He's listed 5'8. Being 90 years old he has certainly lost some inches, but I doubt he was even near 5'8 back in the days..

Maudslay said on 18/May/25
Steven "Destiny" Bonnell II was measured and confirmed to be 5'8 on camera, so maybe you add him, since you have other internet political commentators such as Cenk, Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Crowder, John Oliver, and so on.

BZ said on 18/May/25
Hi rob, right out of bed I measure 194cm. And before sleeping I measure 191cm. Should I claim 6’3 or 6’4?

Hans fikkelden said on 18/May/25
Big rob so if I measure my self at 6'2¾ when I Wake Up And 6'1⅞ Before Bed How Tall Would I Be By Lunch

Gav16 said on 17/May/25
Rob,

Not sure if you'd have any knowledge on this, but would you say height is a bigger factor for attractiveness in the USA compared to Europe, or are they relatively similar? I seem to see a lot more talk of height here in my country (America) compared to most other regions.

Tallishguy said on 17/May/25
Hello Rob, nice to see you again.
I measured myself today with a can method after being awake for 15 hours straight at 183.7- 183.8cm. I had active day, went to grocery shopping immediately after i woke up, did the housework and spent several hours sitting and studying for exams. At night i went outside for training and after that a couple of hours more od sitting. So I was either sitting or on my feet the whole day.
Recently I had a medical check-up where the nurse measured me at 185.3cm using a stadiometer, it was noon and i woke up at 9.
Im wondering what would be my listing on this site, and what to claim?
People often guess me taller than 185cm, but thats because i have long legs, small head and good physique. I walk at around 85-86kg.

Grayloth said on 17/May/25
c-mo

I am speaking of ideal height. Ideal height in Sweden for a man is seen as somewhere between 6’2-6’4. 6’5 is a good height but a little too tall to be ideal.

Chris Paul said on 17/May/25
Hey Rob,
How tall does Robelis Despaigne look next to 6’4 range Alex Pereira
Click Here
Click Here

5'11james said on 17/May/25
Rob, if someone measured between 181-181.5 around 3-4 hours out of bed, what would you class them as in height? Average or tallish?

J0seph.2 said on 16/May/25
Hey Rob, if someone measures, as a low, a little under 5'10 for example, at 5'9.9 on the dot, would you round up to 5'10 and consider 5'10.25 a fair listing ?

rlheight5'11 said on 16/May/25
@Rob
Good, sounds like you are keeping well and healthy.
Do you hear from Bobby and sandy?

HackGod10 said on 16/May/25
Hi rob how tall do you think AP Dhillon is ? he was at the celebrity all star game nba earlier this year, he claims 6 foot but I think he's not over 5 foot 11 maybe even in 10.5 range. Could you please check

c-mo 176-177cm said on 16/May/25
@sofar

you are 188-188.3cm out of bed and 186.5 - 186.6cm after being 7 hours awake and having trained . i would claim 187cm if i were you


@Grayloth

if 190cm is seen as ideal by women then they wont suddenly find a 195cm too tall and undatable . 5cm is not enough to make such a difference . 195cm is a good height and women like that height on men

c-mo 176-177cm said on 16/May/25
@Mike190

bro it was me who answered you not jamss b . he just quoted me

i will answer you now :

- "Yes, that's because the there are a significantly greater number of men within that height range than over 185cm."

surely that is one factor but i am saying that regardless of that if you took 500 random men for example who are in the 5'9 - 6'0 range and compared them to 500 random men who are between 6'2 - 6'5 or higher ...you will find a lot more good looking guys in the 5'9 - 6'0 range . i would bet money on it . but we dont need to discuss this further because it seems we wont agree on it :) thats okay .


- "Yes, but we are discussing optimal height controlling for all variables like proportions. I have seen men over 200cm that have better proportions than men who are 180cm. They are genetic outliers for sure, but you can have optimal proportions at any height."


many men above 185cm simply dont have good proportions . especially above 193cm . sure there are some taller men who do ....but many simply dont . and even if for example a 200cm man has good proportions his height would still be not optimal . it would be best if he was 184cm for example instead of 200cm . but 200cm is still a decent height especially if you do happen to have good proportions . for me anything up to 193cm is good and up to 203cm is decent . above 203cm becomes very excessive . but even above 203cm is better than being short unless you suffer from an illness . if i was very tall i would definitely try to make a career in basketball or at least volleyball .

but either way above 185cm is not perfect anymore in my eyes . because it is vertically too high / stretched . the glass is full at 6'1 as i said . my best friend is 188-189cm btw. so i know how a solid 6'2 looks among people etc. . it is definitely a good height but it is a few cm too much to be optimal . even only the fact that when we are clubbing that he has to bend down when he talks to people especially women is one reason why it is not optimal . i often think that the midway between my friends height and mine would be optimal . which would be about 182 - 183cm . above average but not too much . something around 182 - 185cm at night with good proportions and a mesomorphic build is the sweet spot

but hey no one can choose their height lol . it is how it is


- "Do you seriously think that men like Derek Theler or Clint Walker have/had trouble with women because they are "too tall" and have "bad facial harmony"?"


no of course not . they are good looking and have decent proportions and are very tall . very good to attract women . and they have good heights . i am not saying that being above 185 is bad . i am only saying that it is not perfect

Gianni 5' 7 said on 16/May/25
c-mo 176-177 cm

I don't know how they get those measurements, but they're not reliable at all. There's a good research about the average height of young men (19 y.o.) living in italian urban areas between 1990 and 2020. I quote:

"the average height of young men living in Urban areas fluctuated over the last three decades [...] The lowest average height was observed in 2008 and 2009 with 173.74 cm. In 2020, the average height recorded was 175.36 cm".

rlheight5'11 said on 15/May/25
@Rob
Ok that’s fine, I’ve not been able to post for ages. I didn’t mean to sound rude, I just missed posting and sent you a few emails asking how you were. I got my internet changed to my name so I’m not sure whether my IP address has changed. Anyway, how have you been?

Obese said on 15/May/25
I hope someone can help me with this. I measure always always 171,5 cm in the morning (5'7.5) but this is usually not with a good night sleep, meaning I probably did wake up in the middle of the night or I woke up and stayed in bed for 10+ minutes on my phone switching positions etc. With good night sleep 8+ hours I am peak 5'8. By the end of the day after like an 8 hours shift at work I am 5'6 lowest and when I am home all day I am around 5'6.25 but if I go and sit on my couch for a bit or in my chair and measure again I am 5'6.5. I quickly lose my morning height.

For context, I do not have any diagnosed back issues. The only issue I have which is something I want to confirm so this isn't a coping mechanism for my height fluctuation and maybe something I ned to contact my GP for is. I weight 92,5 kg. My body fat percentage is somewhat around 35-40% MINIMUM, if not way beyond. I lack back muscle so I don't really have a lot of muscle mass to support my back. I think this might ultimately be the cause of my excessive height compression. I think when I did weight 85 kg 3 months ago or so I was when at home measuring at 5'7 after being on the chair or sofa for a bit and lowest 5'6 or a bit above that after work. I since than gained weight up to 90 kg, still didn't experience much more height fluctuation, got to like a bit under 5'6.5 after work, but than 2 weeks ago I gained up to 98 kg and lost all that weight back to 92 kg and since that I am experiencing the new height fluctuation which is 5'6 lowest after work and 5'6.25 when being stood up for some time.

please help me out and let me solve whether this is an issue being caused by excess weight with mostly fat and low muscle ratio.

sofar said on 15/May/25
sofar said on 13/May/25
i'm 188-188.3cm out of bed
wonder at what figure i would be listed at


i measured myself at 186.5-186.6cm 7 hours out of bed and after an 1h gym session. i wasn't that active during the day tho, only 6k steps

c-mo 176-177cm said on 15/May/25
@Jamss B

of course bro . there are good looking guys of almost every height . i would even say that men between 5'4 and 5'7 (the height range you are asking about) look better facially on average than men who are 6'2+ . again this is MY observation and opinion . but of course there are also enough good looking men who are 6'2+ lol . dont get me wrong. but in my experience best looking men are between 5'8 to 6'1 if you want a very wide range and more so 5'9 - 6'0 as i said

by the way : a celeb example of a good looking guy who is in the 5'4 - 5'7 range would be dave franco for example



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@Gianni 5' 7

hey my friend what do you think about the average height stats of north italy and south italy listed on wikipedia ? apperently they are measured averages of 18 - 21 year olds :

north italy : 179.4cm measured in 2018

south italy : 177.4cm measured in 2018


it is higher than what you feel is the average height in italy

Mike190 said on 15/May/25
@Jamss B

I am simply paraphrasing the dating app studies that I read, not my personal opinion. I also never said that you have to be that tall to be successful with women, of course you can get attention even under 170cm. In my secondary school one of the guys who got the most girls was only 168cm, but he had a very attractive face, he was an extremely fit athlete, and most importantly he was confident and outgoing.

"and most dudes i have known in my life who are sucessful with women have been between 5'9 and 6'1"

Yes, that's because the there are a significantly greater number of men within that height range than over 185cm.

"in my experience / observation many men taller than around 6'0 - 6'1 have either bad body proportions or bad facial harmony etc."

Yes, but we are discussing optimal height controlling for all variables like proportions. I have seen men over 200cm that have better proportions than men who are 180cm. They are genetic outliers for sure, but you can have optimal proportions at any height.

Do you seriously think that men like Derek Theler or Clint Walker have/had trouble with women because they are "too tall" and have "bad facial harmony"?

Mike190 said on 15/May/25
@Gianni 5' 7

Average young male (born 2000) in Italy as a whole is 174-175cm from what I've read so you're correct. However there is a large variance between the north and the south, with the average being above 180cm in Friuli Venezia Giulia and below 170cm in Sardinia.

Grayloth said on 15/May/25
I agree with James. 6’10? That is like one in a million.
I come from Sweden and here in Scandinavia around 190 cm is seen as ideal. So 6’2-6’4. 6’5 or 195 cm is seen as too tall from the girls I have asked.

Gianni 5' 7 said on 15/May/25
I don't know where you all live, but at least here in Italy there is no way that average height is somewhere near 5 ft10. I'm 5ft7, not even a solid one (5 ft 7.5 First thing in the morning and 5 ft 6.75 at night). I've been interested in height for years and I can guarantee that a REAL 170 cm guy doesn't feel short most of the time here. Low average, but not short. Considering the male population of the country, I'd Say that 5 ft7 is around 30 percentile. Obviously, Italy is one of the eldest country in the world. With so many men over 70 y.o., height loss becomes a factor. Average height is no more than 5 ft 8.5, maybe a fraction over that here in the North and a fraction under in the South. I start feeling short only when I'm on a crowd of young guys, the average height of young men being about 176 cm (that's my guess).
Anyway, I've noticed that when I claim 170 cm in public people tend to be surprised. "Wow, you doesn't seem so short!" or "No way you're THAT short". That's their reaction, as if 5ft7 was a super short height.
Truth Is that I know plenty of guys among 175 and 177 cm and 95% of them claim 180 cm. Moreover, almost all the 165-167 cm guys that I know claim 170 or even 172 cm. This height inflation process bring people to consider 180 a perfectly average height. It's not, at least in Italy a real 180 cm man is still quite tall (and he obviously claims 185 cm)

Jamss B said on 15/May/25
c-mo 176-177cm said on 14/May/25
Mike190 said on 12/May/25

"If you want to discuss the optimal height for dating, however, it is a completely different story. The recent studies that I've read all point to the fact that most women in the west want very very tall men: with an optimal range of 195-200cm or specifically 6'6" (198cm) being the most desirable height. The "acceptable" range where more than 50% of women would still date you based off your height alone ranges from 6'0-6'11 in the USA and 185cm-210cm in Europe. I know, it's insane how high the standards are."


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sorry but thats BS . i am 39 years old and am 176-177cm (most people guess my height to be around 180cm btw) and have never ever struggled to get attention from women since i was a teenager . getting checked out , getting phone numbers , getting dates etc. . zero problems. and in my experience as i said in my post below when you hit a solid 5'8 it is mostly about facial attractiveness (facial attractiveness is the most important anyway ) and body frame like proportions and wide shoulders etc. from there and you can not blame your height anymore if you have trouble attracting women . even if being taller than solid 5'8 would be better .

and most dudes i have known in my life who are sucessful with women have been between 5'9 and 6'1 AND most guys who i have seen and known who have good facial aesthetics and good body proportions are also around 5'8 / 5'8 to 6'0 . in my experience / observation many men taller than around 6'0 - 6'1 have either bad body proportions or bad facial harmony etc. . i hope this doesnt offend anyone but thats what i have observed . if you take 500 men between 5'9 and 6'0 and compare them to 500 men who are 6'2 - 6'5 for example you will find way more attractive looking guys in the 5'9 - 6'0 range . i am sure about it . the best looking male celebrities are also between 5'9 and 6'1 with especially around 5'11 having many attractive ones . just to name a few : George Clooney , Orlando Bloom , Leonardo Dicaprio , Brad Pitt , Jamie Dornan , Henry Cavill etc. etc. etc.

the study you are talking about is nonsense . most women ideally if they could choose the height of their men would choose a man who is between 5'11 and 6'2 with a good amount of women also liking 6'3 - 6'5 but the most attractive range for women is 180 - 188cm . but obviously with good proportions and good face . they would rather take a good looking 175cm for example than an unattractive 188cm . and many women will also like the heights of 5'8 - 5'10 especially 5'10 . after 5'8 it is mostly about face and frame as i said

sure when you are 6'5 and above there will be also many women who will like that especially women with a height fetish . but it is not ideal . especially above 6'8 is more niche appeal

and you must also not forget height inflation . when women see a solid 6'1 dude many of them will think he is 6'3 for example .


What about guys who are 5’4-5’7? Can they have good facial proportions?

Unt0ld said on 15/May/25
Hey Rob if excessive exercise is bad for your long-term height then how come people like Mick Jagger, Sylvester Stallone, Chuck Norris and Tom Cruise have all maintained their heights quite well despite having quite psychically active lifestyles?

Gianni 5' 7 said on 14/May/25
@ c-mo 176-177 cm

For what is worth, I perfectly agree with you. The idea that women only want super tall men is false and ridicolous. Generally speaking, irl women prefer men taller then them. Height can be an issue for men who are between 5'6 and 5'8, but I think that it's under the 5 ft5 mark that you struggle to make up your lack of height with facial attractivness and body frame. Under 5 ft5 a good chunk of women are tall as you or taller, so they may refuse you anyway. That being said, I know several short short men (160-165 range) Who have a certain success with women

c-mo 176-177cm said on 14/May/25
from all the reliable data i have seen so far i would say that for europe as a whole the average height for a young to middle aged man is something like 178.5 - 179 cm in the evening

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 14/May/25
5'8-5'11 I meant

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 14/May/25
@ Gianni 5'7

I'm 5'9.5 in the evening and I feel pretty much bang on average in England. I feel 5'7 is start of short and 6'0 is the start of tal but most people I see are 5'8-5'12 range.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 14/May/25
Mike190 said on 12/May/25

"If you want to discuss the optimal height for dating, however, it is a completely different story. The recent studies that I've read all point to the fact that most women in the west want very very tall men: with an optimal range of 195-200cm or specifically 6'6" (198cm) being the most desirable height. The "acceptable" range where more than 50% of women would still date you based off your height alone ranges from 6'0-6'11 in the USA and 185cm-210cm in Europe. I know, it's insane how high the standards are."


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sorry but thats BS . i am 39 years old and am 176-177cm (most people guess my height to be around 180cm btw) and have never ever struggled to get attention from women since i was a teenager . getting checked out , getting phone numbers , getting dates etc. . zero problems. and in my experience as i said in my post below when you hit a solid 5'8 it is mostly about facial attractiveness (facial attractiveness is the most important anyway ) and body frame like proportions and wide shoulders etc. from there and you can not blame your height anymore if you have trouble attracting women . even if being taller than solid 5'8 would be better .

and most dudes i have known in my life who are sucessful with women have been between 5'9 and 6'1 AND most guys who i have seen and known who have good facial aesthetics and good body proportions are also around 5'8 / 5'8 to 6'0 . in my experience / observation many men taller than around 6'0 - 6'1 have either bad body proportions or bad facial harmony etc. . i hope this doesnt offend anyone but thats what i have observed . if you take 500 men between 5'9 and 6'0 and compare them to 500 men who are 6'2 - 6'5 for example you will find way more attractive looking guys in the 5'9 - 6'0 range . i am sure about it . the best looking male celebrities are also between 5'9 and 6'1 with especially around 5'11 having many attractive ones . just to name a few : George Clooney , Orlando Bloom , Leonardo Dicaprio , Brad Pitt , Jamie Dornan , Henry Cavill etc. etc. etc.

the study you are talking about is nonsense . most women ideally if they could choose the height of their men would choose a man who is between 5'11 and 6'2 with a good amount of women also liking 6'3 - 6'5 but the most attractive range for women is 180 - 188cm . but obviously with good proportions and good face . they would rather take a good looking 175cm for example than an unattractive 188cm . and many women will also like the heights of 5'8 - 5'10 especially 5'10 . after 5'8 it is mostly about face and frame as i said

sure when you are 6'5 and above there will be also many women who will like that especially women with a height fetish . but it is not ideal . especially above 6'8 is more niche appeal

and you must also not forget height inflation . when women see a solid 6'1 dude many of them will think he is 6'3 for example .

Rajiv india said on 14/May/25
Hi rob, i thought nz cricekter kane willaismon is 5'8.5". But looks 5'10" for the last 3 years.he is 34 btw.he is the second cricketer after steyn who gained height after growth plate clouser. I am shocked

Sam83 said on 13/May/25
Hi everyone, I just wondered if anyone had measured anyone or themselves with any super high heels, or compared next to each other for comparison? It would be interesting to know how many people have suddenly become shorter than someone they know, once heels are used!
I’m 5’11 and my sister is 5’7.5. She has ordered these super high heels after I said she could never be taller than me, so it’s going to be interesting when she wears these out!l next time! Click Here

Chris Paul said on 13/May/25
Hey Rob,
How tall does Volkov look with 6'4 range Aspinall Click Here

fullduchess23 said on 13/May/25
Click Here

Hi Rob, I wanted to know how tall the player with the hairband is, who I believe is standing slightly on tiptoe. Compared to Van Dijk, who on your site is listed as 6 ft 4 1/2, how tall do you think he is just by looking?

fullduchess23 said on 13/May/25
hi Big Rob
what is the height outside the bed you expect from a 6ft 3/4 guy on this site? obviously not forcing the posture, standing normal.

thanks

sofar said on 13/May/25
i'm 188-188.3cm out of bed
wonder at what figure i would be listed at

Mike190 said on 12/May/25
Continuing on with the ideal height discussion, the vast majority of male models are listed at 183-192cm. Accounting for the outliers who inflate or deflate their heights to fit the standards the absolute max range for legit barefoot afternoon height in high fashion is 180-195cm. Generally those under 185cm and over 191cm are already considered sub-optimal. This is why you see so many 6ft models (such as O'Pry) listed at 6'1", and 6ft4 models (such as Gao) listed at 6'2.5" or 6'3". The sweetspot is exactly 186cm-188cm with 6'2" (187.96cm) being widely considered the prototypical model height.

Now why would male model heights have anything to do with the ideal height for general life? Model agencies design their clothes to fit men who are in the 6'1-3" range for a good reason: they have the best aesthetic look. Men in this range are certainly tall, but not gawky awkward tall. 6ft1-3 men also generally have an inseam of no more than 34", and shoe size no more than 13US which makes shopping very convenient.

If you want to discuss the optimal height for dating, however, it is a completely different story. The recent studies that I've read all point to the fact that most women in the west want very very tall men: with an optimal range of 195-200cm or specifically 6'6" (198cm) being the most desirable height. The "acceptable" range where more than 50% of women would still date you based off your height alone ranges from 6'0-6'11 in the USA and 185cm-210cm in Europe. I know, it's insane how high the standards are.

How much is this due to selective bias and height inflation (particularily in USA where claiming 2 inches above your actual height seems to be the norm)? It's hard to say. But insisting that the ideal male height is sub 180cm is ridiculous to me given all this information, and even under 185cm is hard to argue unless you have plans on becoming a gymnast or jockey.

All factor considered I believe 6ft1-5 (185-195cm) is the optimal range for a man in 2025 in the western world. Which height is optimal for you in that range depends on your values in life.

aaronj00 said on 12/May/25
Hey Rob, I measure at 176cm at night and 178cm in the morning. I currently weigh 98kg and I'm planning on losing some weight. If I lose about 20kg, do you think it's possible that I can have a slightly higher height at night time (maybe 176.5cm) if I lose some weight given that there may be less pressure on my body?

Caleb 5'10.25"/178.7cm said on 12/May/25
@Editor Rob
Don't think she's over 6'10 though right?

MD said on 12/May/25
Really quite interested to know how tall actor Danny Ramirez is.

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The Top Gun Maverick cast was quite above average, but I'm not sure if the 5'9" are quite right.

Gianni 5' 7 said on 12/May/25
Hi Rob,

The vast majority of people would define short a guy who's 5ft6 flat (let's say between 167 and 168 cm). At the same time, I know several guys who're around 172-173 cm barefeet and it's pretty rare for them to be called "short",at least here in Italy. That being said, do you think that a guy who's in the middle between those marks (170 cm on the nose, afternoon height) has a greater chance to be viewed as short or average?

Caleb 5'10.25" (178.7cm) said on 11/May/25
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How tall does she look in each of the videos?

Vick said on 11/May/25
Hi Rob,
I’m been measuring my height over the day, on lazy days I can hold 6’ 5 hours, on work days I’m hitting 511.75 but I also work and carry things and walks down stairs in a building. What do you think qualified as a legite 6’? Does it need to be 6’ at a evening or low or can 5 hours still count?

Mike190 said on 11/May/25
Rob do you think it would be possible to gain 1cm in height through stretching and core strengthening exercises in a person that is completely untrained with average posture to begin with?

grizz said on 11/May/25
I'm back! Thanks,Rob!
Lots changed with my height perspective and my actual height.
I used to be 182-183 cm. Went to an MRI scan of vertebrae and several physical therapies later, I gained 2cms due to extremely weak back muscles that couldn't handle the burden (ironically, I thought I was relatively strong).
With regular morning stretches I'm maintaining- 186.5 cm straight out of bed, 184.2 at my absolute worst. What is more, turns out one leg is shorter than the other by a cm. Theoretically, with some brave experts willing to extend the shorter leg I might add another cm.

Now with improved posture I can stand tall and boy, the difference is HUGE.
I used to think I was @ lower average walking down the streets in Croatia (I was prob 178-180 while walking due to weak muscles). Now I can say that I'm comfortably average and 95% of women are shorter or as tall as I am.

My perfect height?
I agree with Kevin's arguments, although I think his current height is my perfect height already.
1) you can still be a perfectly fine gymnast at that height
2)this is the last last height for someone to fit inside and drive a F1 car (my dream)

Gerald S said on 11/May/25
Rob, I can often pass for near 5’11” with others as I wear orthotics, I practice better than average posture, and yes I do indeed claim 5’10”. So would you probably give me 5’10” on here?

Jake: 1.84 m - 1.85 m said on 11/May/25
Still think a solid 182 cm tends to be the figure when one starts to appear tallish entering tall zone. A bit below that mark = still in the above average range.

fullduchess23 said on 11/May/25
rob 2 hours and a little more after waking up, wearing a pair of fairly used classic vans (8 months of use) I measure (using good posture) about 6 ft 1 1/2, overall do you still think that 6 ft 3/4 is good for me or do you think that 6 ft 1/2 is better, obviously I am in this range not more I am sure, you advised me 6 ft 3/4 several times but here I wanted to let you know with the shoes how much I measure.

thanks

Gerald S said on 11/May/25
Rob, at the start of the day, I measure 179.0cm barefoot and at the end of the day I measure 177.0cm barefoot. What club would you put me in if I was a celeb on here?

Gianni 5' 7 said on 11/May/25
There's no way that the average height of the male population in France is 180 cm. Not even close. I've worked in France for a year and travelled across the country several times. I'd say 176 cm at most, maybe just slightly more that here in Italy.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 10/May/25
@Kevin

hey bro . i would say the minimum height that is arguably / possibly the bottom end of what is in the ideal range is 178cm evening / low . below that is 100% not "ideal" anymore . i mean i am around 176cm in the evening (i dip a little bit below 176 at the very end of the day after 12-13+ hours unless i am at home the whole day ) and i can definitely say that my height is pretty good and i am not unhappy . but it is not ideal for sure . i wish i was at least 2-3cm taller and ideally 5-8cm taller

178 evening would be bare minimum for that but even 178 might be a little bit too low too . so rather around 179-180 tbh . so yeah i kinda agree with you

as i said my personal ideal range is 179 - 184 range evening height . possibly 185 - 186 too if the proportions are good . imo even though 187cm and above are still really good heights it is "too long" vertically to be ideal anymore . hard to explain what i mean but i think above 185/186 is not ideal anymore because it looks too stretched virtually lol . the glass is already full at a weak 6'1

the problem with the lower ends of my ideal range is that you will look and feel short when very tall men are around . like lets say you are surrounded by a couple of dudes who are all around 190 - 199cm . you will feel a bit short in such situations. you dont have that problem at 184 185 . for a 184-185 guy to feel or look short there has to be men around who are minimum 198+ which are very rare heights .therefore i would say IF body proportions are good and IF facial and skull proportions are good then 184-185cm evening height is the very best height to be for a man . there is a user here who is a personal trainer who says the same . he has trained many dudes of all kinds of heights and he also says around 184 is perfect and and also looks the best

so again to summarize it : mesomorphic body structure + good proportions + broad shoulders + good facial harmony and good skull shape + around 184cm height in the evening = the perfect height to be

and being lanky is not the only downside that tall heights often have mate. but i dont want to say anything more regarding this because i feel bad doing so . i dont feel any members here to feel bad or something

but anyway . just want to add this too : when it comes to attracting women i have observed and experienced myself that once you reach around 173cm evening height it comes down mostly to facial attractivness and body frame from there and you can not blame your lack of success on your height anymore .

183 cm traveller said on 10/May/25
I’ve travelled through Western and Central Europe. I now live in Romania, which is the only Eastern European country I’ve been to. I’d say the average male height in Europe is around 180–184 cm. In France, where I’m from, it’s about 180 cm. In Central Europe I visited Austria and the Czech Republic the average seems to be around 182 cm. In Romania, I’d estimate it at around 179 cm, maybe 178 cm at worst. I’ve never been to the Netherlands, but reports say the average is 183–184 cm, and I’d trust those numbers. Based on my observations, 190 cm is above average but still fairly common.

TL said on 10/May/25
Hi Rob how much height do we lose within 30 seconds of getting out of bed? 1-2mm?

fullduchess23 said on 10/May/25
rob I need your help, so, a friend of mine told me after 5 hours and a little more from waking up standing against the wall with an object you recommended on your channel on his head, it measures exactly 6 ft 0.63 in, he would like to know on your site how it would be inserted, thank you very much for your help rob, and maybe some advice on what height he should declare to people.

thanks

fullduchess23 said on 9/May/25
Rob my height after 17 and a half hours is 183.950 cm, I'm tired and I measured myself with relaxed shoulders and not tense.
between 183.5 cm, 184.2 cm, 184.8 cm, 185.4 cm, for how you reason which one do you tend to prefer

thanks

rlheight5'11 said on 9/May/25
@Rob
How do they know when to post? With all due respect, what is going on with the forum?

Gianni 5' 7 said on 9/May/25
Hi Rob,
As of today, would you still say that 170 cm and 180 cm barefeet are respectively the start of short and the start of tall in a country like UK?

TL said on 8/May/25
Hi Rob how much height would these give? Click Here

Kiers said on 8/May/25
@Jamss B

Welcome to the 172cm club. My 10pm low is 172 flat. I find its not a bad height, shorter than average but not tiny. Wouldnt say it has any downsides. When I was younger was a bit of a hang up but being 29 this September find theres more important things in life.

fullduchess23 said on 8/May/25
Rob do you agree that Calafiori is 188 cm?

Jamss B said on 8/May/25
Rob would you say 172cm is a bad height for a guy?

Chris Paul said on 7/May/25
Hey Rob,
How tall does this guy look with Demetrius Johnson
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Grayloth said on 7/May/25
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In Scandinavia and Netherlands the average height reached a plateue already in the early 1990s. Dutch conscripts measured 181.2 cm back then. You grow another half a cm after the year of 18 and if you take into account ethnic dutch there is another half a cm. Dutch men aren’t taller than 182 cm.

Chris Paul said on 7/May/25
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Hey Rob what would you say is the difference between these two guys

Mike190 said on 6/May/25
@fullduchess23

You're supposed to stand at your tallest when you measure yourself. Refusing to claim your measurement with good posture is like saying your bench press PR isn't legit because you were well rested beforehand and wouldn't be capable of matching it after a long day of physical work.

If you are 185.4cm in the evening you should claim 6ft 1 or 185cm worst case. Anything less than that is fallacious.

Mike190 said on 6/May/25
@Grayloth

For the general population, including older generations and immigrants yes 182-182cm is the average in the Netherlands. I'm talking about young ethnic Dutch men which are 183.8cm on average nationally and 185cm on average in the northern regions (Friesland, Groningen).

Yes it does seem that the Dutch reached a plateau in the 1980s, with evidence suggesting that the population born in 21st century is even slightly shorter, but this is not the case in the Balkans. Young men in the Montenegro are 183.3cm on average with the populations living along the Adriatic sea in Dalmatia being the tallest in the world. Makarska, Croatia has a mean height of 187.6cm (almost 6ft 2)!

I have been to both these regions and can say without a doubt that Dalmatia has taller men on average. I felt very average at my height and my Father did not stick out at all at 196cm like he would back home. There were 2 meter men on every corner, it was insane.

This is why I personally am not satisifed with my height and hope to grow an inch taller. Anything less than 190cm in these tallest countries is average at best. At 6ft 3 you can atleast call yourself above average in every country in the world.

Kevin said on 6/May/25
@c-mo

180cm is the lowest height I could see one arguing as being ideal. Male models are usually between 5'11-6'3 so it's in that range but barely. 6'1 is exactly in the middle of that range. I don't think lankiness is an issue until you're 6'2+. Have definitely seen a few 6'2 guys whose proportions looked off because they're too skinny.

I remember being 180cm when I was 16. I thought it was a pretty good height back then. Felt tallish. Never felt inadequate about it. But I like being 184cm more. Actually, if I could only choose between my current height (184cm) and 188cm I would choose to stay 184cm. To me it's a great height, nearly perfect.

fullduchess23 said on 6/May/25
c-mo 176-177cm

Hey man,

Just a quick note: if I’m standing absolutely straight—like, maxed out tension, back tight, neck long, everything stretched to the limit—I just about reach 185.4 cm. I’m brushing it. Barely.

It’s 7:54 PM right now, and I’ve been awake since 7 this morning. I haven’t done much physically today—nothing intense or tiring—so this is me at the end of a chill day, but fully upright. No tiptoes, no cheating. Just maximum effort posture.

That said, just so you know—in real life, I’m nowhere near that tense. Like, normally I’m way more relaxed, slouchy even. This was me in full-on statue mode. So don’t get used to it.

fullduchess23 said on 6/May/25
rob an opinion from you, do you think the heights 186 cm for szobozlai and 187 cm for yildiz are correct?
what do you think about adding these footballers to the football page, have a nice day

c-mo 176-177cm said on 6/May/25
@fullduchess23

LOL that is an EASY 185cm claim . not only that ...imo you SHOULD claim 185cm . but it is up to you to decide .

many men claim a height at least 1-2 inches higher than what they are sometimes even 3-4 inches .

and on celebheights members claim their height after being awake for 100000 hours , after having been very active and worked out for many hours having stressed their spine aggressively , maybe even being dehydrated , and maybe even not standing as straight as possible on top of it . because they think this will be "modest" and "honest" . just lol . such a nonsense ....

bro is 184.8cm after 6 hours being awake and thinks claiming 185cm is not okay . xD jfl

fullduchess23 said on 6/May/25
c-mo 176-177cm

I’m not sure, but after about 6 hours of being awake I’m around 184.8 cm. In the evening I rarely drop below 184 cm when standing straight.

Gav16 said on 5/May/25
Hello Rob,

I have measured myself at 6'1.3 morning height, 6'0 11/16 afternoon and just a smidge under 6'0.5 like 6'0.4 at my low.

Considering this was with a tape measure (using a can, back to wall) what's the range of what my real height could be? Could I claim 6'1 without being called out or is it a dishonest claim?

And assuming those are all accurate what might I get a listing at here? Thanks!

Grayloth said on 5/May/25
@Mike190

The dutch aren’t 184 cm. They are more 182 cms. They are similiar in height to the Scandinavians since they have roughly the same gene pool and living standards.
The Balkan heights I am also sceptical about. Ideal height from a golden ratio perspective is 6 feet. But you don’t want to be exactly optimum height, since you are standing with one ”feet” on each side of the ideal height so to speak. Instead, you want ro be close to that height so 181-182 cm is ideal and makes sense, and the Scandinavians and Dutch reached that average height already in the late 80s/early 90s.

Grayloth said on 5/May/25
@Rob
Arnie was never taller than 6’0.5”. He was close in height to Reg Park and Reg Park has stated himself he was 6 feet.
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That explains Arnolds ”height loss”. He just did the usual one inch add which is especially common in the US.

fullduchess23 said on 5/May/25
rob a question, if I am 6 ft 0.75 tall, but if I met Roger Federer 6 ft 1, in real life how would I see him? Do people notice the difference from the outside?


thanks rob

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 5/May/25
Could you also add Nathan fielder Rob? I think he looks like a weak 5'10 guy. Probably my height or 5'9.75 at most.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 5/May/25
@fullduchess23

it doesnt matter . you SHOULD stand as tall as possible without tiptoeing to measure your height anyway . and if you are 186.6cm a few minutes out of bed then claiming 184cm is nonsense if you ask me . but you do you . what is your height after being 2-3 hours awake ? i bet you are easily 185cm 3 hours out of bed . you should claim that

Caleb 178.8cm said on 4/May/25
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I'm posting this video here to show how much of an impact the height of the camera above the ground and the positions of your body and the tape measure have on how tall you look in comparison to a tape measure and height chart on camera.

At the beginning of the video, you can see a paper height chart with marks on it. The lowest mark on the chart is 5'3, the next mark above it is 5'4, the one after is 5'5, and the highest mark in the middle of the paper is 5'11. At timestamp 0:50, my feet were touching the wall and I appear over 5'11 in front of the height chart even though my real height was not much over 5'10 that moment. But at 0:25 in the video, I run a tape measure straight up from a spot on the floor that is the same distance away from the camera as my toes are, and on camera the top of my head looks lower than the 5'10 mark on the tape measure. Another thing you might notice is that I appear noticeably taller in front of the height chart at timestamp 0:25 than I do at timestamp 0:50. That was because I was closer to the camera (the backs of my feet were about 9 inches in front of the wall) at timestamp 0:25 than I was at timestamp 0:50 (which was when my feet were touching the wall). At timestamp 2:01, I measured my height on stadiometer as 5'10 1/8. I know you can't see the ground but trust me, this stadiometer measurement was legit and accurate. I recorded the video at 4:02PM so I was at my low height. The camera was about the same height from the ground as my navel.

After this attempt at trying to do the same things Nancy Mulkey did in her videos, I'm having a hard time believing Nancy is as tall as a full 6'9, let alone 6'10, comparing how tall I look on my video vs. how tall she looks on hers. Another thing a friend of mine on discord told me was that she was standing on a carpet behind her which looked higher than the floor in front of her, which may have given her height.

Mike190 said on 4/May/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

Thanks. I'm not quite there (yet), as I chose this name as a positive affirmation/manifestation. I'm around 189.5cm first thing, 187.5cm at night, and just over 187cm at my extreme low. I'm in my early 20s, so hoping I can grow at least one more 1cm, ideally 2-3cm. I have grown 4cm after turning 18, so I think I'm somewhat of a late bloomer. In real life, I claim 6ft 2 (188cm).

I totally agree with what you said about proportions, though. My father in his prime was 196cm and while his height certainly gave him many advantages in life, he is very lanky and was regularly teased for being a too tall "stringbean" throughout his teen years and early adulthood. I myself suffer lankiness but to a lesser degree, thankfully. I would happily be 183-185cm if it meant I had ideal proportions, but I wouldn't go any lower than that.

Gamer Ak said on 4/May/25
Rob please add streamers like Kai Cenat , Duke Dennis , Adin Ross, XQC, and Sneako.

fullduchess23 said on 4/May/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

I measure 186.7 cm with a forced and stretched posture, basically my absolute maximum height after a long sleep. That’s why I’m unsure whether to say 184 cm or 185 cm

Kevin said on 4/May/25
@fullduchess23

You're a weak 6'1 but I think you can safely claim 185cm or 6'1 when talking to people. I'm guessing you only go down to 6'0.5 at an extreme low. I wouldn't claim an extreme low height.

fullduchess23 said on 4/May/25
rob, a guy who in the morning out of bed standing very straight and tense his peak is 6ft 1 ½, on your site how would it be placed?

c-mo 176-177cm said on 4/May/25
@fullduchess23

why would you claim 184cm when you are 186.6cm in the morning ? you should claim at least 185cm IMO


@Kevin yeah i would probably take 184-185cm (weak 6'1) too if i could keep my current proportions and face / head aesthetics . even though 180cm is my favorite height . because 184-185 holds itself better when standing next to dudes up until 197-198cm . but for 6'1 to be perfect good body proportions and face / skull aesthetics are necessary . and in my experience many men above 6'0 simply dont have that (again no offense to anyone)


@Mike190 looking at your username it seems that you are around your ideal height :) thats good bro . and yes 6'3 is a very good height if you can pull it off

fullduchess23 said on 4/May/25
Hi Rob, it's 12:27 at lunchtime, I've been awake for 7 minutes. I measured myself against the wall with an object on my head and got 186.6 cm. I used my maximum possible posture (almost unnatural). Based on this, would you personally list me as 6 ft 3/4 or 6 ft 1/2? And when talking to people, should I say 184 cm or 185 cm?

Thanks, Rob!

chadmichaels said on 3/May/25
Hello Rob, How much height do you think these shoes actually give?

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Kevin said on 3/May/25
I recently measured my tallest morning height ever at age 31. 6'1.125" first thing out of bed. I've measured it several times when I get 8 hours of sleep. In my 20s I would've never measured more than 6'1 flat out of bed. I've also been taking 10,000 IUs of vitamin D3 and 200mcg Vitamin K2 MK7 everyday since last year. Is it possible that I've increased my bone mass by taking these supplements, hence the slight height gain? Just found it interesting that I've apparently managed to gain height in my early 30s, albeit millimeters.

@c-mo

I'm in the US. A rock solid 6'1 at night would be my ideal. It's tall, but not so tall that it becomes a defining feature or a point of conversation. A 6'1 guy can still blend into a crowd easily enough. A 6'1 guy will also be taller than basically 100% of women anywhere they go barring a few rare outliers. Unless you want to be an NBA player, there are no downsides to being 6'1 in everyday life.

MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 3/May/25
I think Mark Heap deserves an add Rob. Gets listed at and looks 6 foot. He may even be 6'0.25 but no more than that.

Kiers said on 3/May/25
Hey Rob

If at 12pm I clock in at around 172.6cm and by 10pm I'm down to a low of 172cm flat would you consider that a more weaker 5'8 guy ?

Mike190 said on 2/May/25
@c-mo 176-177cm

My ideal height for a man would be 6 ft 3, specifically 191.5cm first thing and 189.5cm before bed.

Reasons:
-Maximum height to be a male model
-Maximum height to be an astronaut and glider pilot
-Single and twin mattresses are exactly 75 inches long
-You will be considered tall even in the tallest countries since you are 190cm
-People will universally recognise your height as tall, but will not comment on it directly like they would with a 6ft 4 and above guy
-It is an extremely athletic and well-rounded height given that most sports have an average male height of 6ft1-3 such as NFL, NHL, MLB, tennis, etc and even NBA point guards are 6'2.5" on average
-Public transport, furniture and clothing are generally only designed to accommodate up to the 95th-97.5th percentile in height (6 ft 2- 3)
-Rollercoasters generally have a maximum height of 195cm (in shoes), and you will be comfortably under that mark in normal footwear
-Due to height inflation (particularly in North America), most people in real life think a barefoot 6ft 3 guy is 6ft 4-5
-You can claim very strong 6'2, 6'3, or 6'4 in shoes depending on the situation


This is for countries where the average male born in 2000 is 5ft 10.5 / 179cm (Australia, Canada, Ireland). If I lived in the taller European countries like the Netherlands and Montenegro, where the average is 6ft 0.5 / 184cm and almost up to 6ft 2 in the tallest regions, I'd want to be 6ft 5-6. The same applies to the shorter countries such as Timor-Leste (average height of 5ft 3 / 160cm), where I'd only want to be 5ft 8-9, assuming I never had plans to leave the country.

5'8 Cowboy said on 2/May/25
Rob, I know I already commented earlier so sorry for asking another question, but if I'm 16 and 5'8, and my Mom and Dad were 5'3 and 5'9 at their prime, do you think I have a good chance to reach my Dad's peak height or do you think I might stop a bit short of it? Thanks Rob

08 said on 2/May/25
For me, I think height plays a factor, but probably not a big one. For short people, maximizing every aspect of your life and not worrying about your height can be a substitue for lacking height.

08 said on 2/May/25
Rob, do you believe in the notion that taller people in general have a more successful life (dating, career,etc) than someone whos short? Ive been watching a channel called LiveLifeTaller. They do leg lengthening surgery on people, and a majority of their clients say that their rationale is that they want to have more success in dating and in their career.

A link to a video on their channel
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Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 2/May/25
Cruise has held steady through his 50’s and 60’s. I know all the stunt work he’s done and injuries he’s sustained but I don’t see a noticeable difference from 20-30 years ago…..

Bo Chow said on 2/May/25
Hi Rob! I wake up after 9 or so hours of sleep at 181.9 cm in the morning, what is the most honest/accurate/truthful measurement I should claim as my “actual height”?

Thanks!

08 said on 1/May/25
Rob, if given the opportunity, which celebrity would you want to have measured in person?

c-mo 176-177cm said on 1/May/25
why is the average male celeb height around 180cm ? why that high ?

Rajiv india said on 1/May/25
@rob paul,is it possible to grow taller at the age 40? Cricketer dale steyn looks 6.1 these days and he used to look 6 foot flat.

c-mo 176-177cm said on 1/May/25
it is time to raise up the activity of the site again since comments get approved again :)

i have a question @everyone . i have asked similar questions several times in the past already but cant hurt to talk about it again . what height range do you guys and gals think is the best to be ?

in my opinion it is 180 - 186cm . lets say 179 - 185cm at night more or less . however this is presumed that body and face / height proportions are good . many men who are above 180 especially above 183 have already poor body proportions and also poor facial features / head proportions . and the likelyhood of it increases with each centimeter more and more after 185 . no offense to anybody but that is what i have observed in real life . i would rather be a well proportioned and harmonic looking 175cm than a poor proportioned 185cm with not so good facial features and skull shape

and around 180cm looks best from an aesthetic point of view in my experience but there is a problem with this height . even though it is not short at all and even a little tallish and a little above average it will look short next to very tall men . it will look a bit dwarfed next to men who are 192-193cm and will definitely looked dwarfed by men who are 195 and above. you dont have this "problem" at the higher ends of my ideal range (184 - 186) because for a 185cm man to look short you need to put him next to men who are 198 - 200cm+ or so which is a very rare height . i know that heights above 190 are not that common but still there will be situations where such really tall men are around and in those situations 180cm will look short

nevertheless i do think 179 - 180cm at night are still ideal heights

oh and by the way if you wonder how i feel at my own height at around 176cm evening . it is definitely a good height and i am happy . but i would have liked to be a few centimeters taller ideally

what is your ideal range ?

adrianposter said on 30/Apr/25
Hey Rob,

I notice that when I’m standing, I subconsciously tend to lock my knees and clench my glutes in and I cannot really stand normally. How much height will that add to my measurement?

Drew b said on 30/Apr/25
If I measure 183.8 cm in the morning but stand 182.5 cm at my evening low what height would I be listed on here?