General Height - Page 2

Greg said on 30/Aug/19
@mrfunnyguy Okay now I see you’re trolling, the average in the US is 5’9 if that so if a guys 6’1 they are 4 inches above the average that’s very tall, people out here saying 6 isn’t tall like it is. Most of these people who are a certain height and claim to not feel tall or whatever are probably not the height they claim or are obviously trolling a legit 6’1 is taller than people think and with the right proportions you would look taller being 6’2 in shoes is very tall to me.👌

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 30/Aug/19
@Ellis
It also depends on the thickness of the eyebrows. You can have a 10" head and still have an eyebrow level of 3.5" if you have thin ones. I have a 9.75" head but my eyebrow level's 3.75" since mine are on the thicker side.

Chris brady said on 30/Aug/19
Guys I am trying to be replicate the alternate method that rob used by building a stadiometer of sorts to get my first true measurement since injury. I was going to put some big books and cds on a 67 inch dresser. How do I make sure the piece of wood I am standing under is straight and not dipping or rising?

Sakz said on 30/Aug/19
@Mark O' Connor In Italy you're definitely tall so I'm not surprised you're taller than a lot of people you see.

Greg said on 30/Aug/19
@Jdubbz I just don’t see the point in that, I get it some guys want to be imposing or look taller but if you’re wearing anything more than like a 2 inch lift and especially at that height where you are already stand out tall why would you want to even more? That’s just absurd nobody I know in real life at least not in my friend group wears lifts.

Greg said on 30/Aug/19
@Lell not saying I don’t believe you on the fact the source exists, however I don’t believe the source, 181.5 cm for average seems way too high and would more likely be somewhere like Denmark or Amsterdam/Dinarc Alps. I think that the average young Swedish man might be anywhere between 177-179. That would sound more accurate to me but who knows.

mrfunnyguy said on 30/Aug/19
@Greg By the way, even if the average in Sweden really is 178-179cm, which I find totally absurd, 6'2 still can't really be called "very tall". I think almost no one would call 6'1 very tall in the US, where the average height is at least an inch shorter than Sweden.

Ellis said on 30/Aug/19
@Rob: True, my eye level appears slightly below the lips, which if I'm correct if my eye level is on level with the lips that is a 3 inch difference. I would reckon it was a 3.5 inch difference. Then again, the person taking the picture is much shorter, keep in mind that I'm extremely tall, it's really hard to find someone to take a great picture. My eye level was literally just below the lips, like I'd say half an inch, no more, the picture makes it look like my eyes are on level, but I can tell by giving a firm look at the photo, that is not the case.

Bobby123 said on 30/Aug/19
Rob, i measured my height 16 hours after bed and it was 183.3cm. What should I claim in cm/feet?

c-mo said on 30/Aug/19
@Rob

did you ban connor ? if yes please unban him because I dont mind that he insulted me . if you ban him because of me I will feel guilty . give him another chance please

Mark O' Connor said on 30/Aug/19
@ajax509 I live in Italy, yes I measure 184 cm in the evening, but I feel like I'm taller than 90% of people, so I feel solid tall, but maybe is just my perception

Lell said on 30/Aug/19
There is also a PDF-file on 18 year old Swedish recruits and the 1998 average was 179.8 cm tall, which is around 180 cm. And it says in the same documents that most people were in the 178-183 cm range. I don't know how to link it here but another user did that some time ago.

Lell said on 30/Aug/19
@Greg

I dunno dude but here is my source for the 181.5 cm measurement.

Click Here

Scroll down to Sweden and it says 181.5 cm measured 2008 ages 20-29 years old.

Sakz said on 30/Aug/19
@Mark O' Connor Depends where you live but in a lot of places that'd be in the tall range.

ajax509 said on 30/Aug/19
You'd stand 184cm in the afternoon so more in the tallish range (at least for younger generation).
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Mark O' Connor said on 29/Aug/19
I was measured 185 cm 1 hour after bed is this tall or just above average?

mrfunnyguy said on 30/Aug/19
@Greg I guess I could be wrong about what I think, but the average is really 181.5cm in Sweden, you can look it up.

Jdubbz said on 30/Aug/19
@Greg: Some already tall guys are obsessed with being taller. I know this guy who is very similar to me in height (maybe a quarter inch or cm taller than me barefoot), but he wears lifts to look like a barefoot 6'7-6'8 when he's in public. A 6'2 guy wearing lifts to be 6'6 makes no sense to me. I can't imagine what kind of damage that thick of a lift would do to the feet over time.

Jdubbz said on 30/Aug/19
@Mark O' Connor: Somewhere in the middle imo (I'd say tallish) but many here will say tall.

Ellis said on 29/Aug/19
@Rob: Hey Rob, if I come up to a guys eye brow, like not above not below, what would the height difference be? Let's say we are talking about a really tall guy, like a 10 plus inch head, would that affect it?

Nik Ashton said on 29/Aug/19
@ Mark O’ Connor - Tall!

Greg said on 29/Aug/19
@Christian I thought it was, unless I am mistaken? I don’t see too many people with V in their username here but you know which guy I’m talking about he says he makes a custom lift and shoe to appear 6’6 to people. Now that’s just absurd.

@mrfunnyguy lol your username is accurate to that statement, the average is not 181.5cm wtf? That would be absurd it’s no more than 178ish if the average in Sweden was as high as Netherlands then I would be shocked at 6’1 you should feel tall, Bens friend is 6’2 and he’s always referred to as very tall. I don’t agree with that I’ve been to Sweden and felt above average there at 179 lol.

Greg said on 29/Aug/19
@Bego The average in Sweden isn’t 180cm it’s more like 179cm but truthfully it’s probably bang on 178cm Slovenians are generally taller.

Bego said on 29/Aug/19
@Lell Maybe thats your region? 6ft is definitely not avg in Sweden at max 180cm. I have seen plenty of your people here and while some were taller alot of them were shorter than me. The best i can compare Swedes with is Slovenians for example. I have never been to Sweden so i cant tell anything but just because you see some taller guys around doesnt mean anything. I have seen in Turkey plenty of taller man and avg is 175cm apparently.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 29/Aug/19
@Greg
Isn't RobV the one who's 6'2.5" and brags about wearing thick lifts and elevators? Or is RobV and AndrewV the same person?

mrfunnyguy said on 29/Aug/19
@Greg I live in Sweden and definitely don't think the average height for young guys is shorter than the official average of 181.5cm. I'm 6'1 and sometimes feel below average. When I walk around in a university where there a lot of young people, the most common height I see in guys is without any doubt around 6'1-6'3.

Sakz said on 29/Aug/19
@Greg Right ok haha yeah she can't have been serious unless she was just pure deluded.

Sakz said on 29/Aug/19
@avi Yep I was exactly the same when I was younger. I was often described as tall but never really felt it because of the false expectation that I had to tower people, and because I didn't pay attention to height. It wasn't until I became more height aware and better understood the concept of being tall that I realised how tall I am. Lol seeing myself in the mirror next to other people did actually help because it gives perspective. The average person (5'9 where I live) reaches right around my eyebrows so while I won't quite tower them, I'll know I'm comfortably taller.

Mark O' Connor said on 29/Aug/19
I was measured 185 cm 1 hour after bed is this tall or just above average?

Lell said on 28/Aug/19
@Greg

Not necessarily in Sweden as a whole but at my school I do feel slightly below. Haven't measured in a long time so not sure if I've gotten taller or not, but last time I checked I was a bit over 179 cm. According to Wikipedia, the average for guys 20-29 is 181.5 while for all ages it is 179 cm.

According to my observations of my surroundings (note: MY surroundings, not the whole country)
I'd say that the average is:

Around 5'10" for all males

Hovering around 6'0" for young people 17-25.

So basically I'm quite average, but you will sometimes see girls that are taller than you just so you know. I see lots of them in the food court.

So you feel more on the tallish/tall side in the US? That's quite cool, my friend who was 177 cm at the time he visited the US said that everybody was shorter, maximum his height. Does that sound true to you?

Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 28/Aug/19
@Rob
Do you think that the younger generation have stagnated when it comes to height? I don't really see young people being taller than middle aged people, at least not in the West and developed countries. I only see the youth getting taller in developing countries, due to improved nutrition and healthcare.

Greg said on 27/Aug/19
@Goel175cm so assuming 5’9 is the average how is 5’10 average then wouldn’t that be above average?

Greg said on 27/Aug/19
@cmillzz let’s also not forget you’re speaking with a guy who’s apparently 6’2.5” and wears lifts+custom elevators to reach 6’6, like why he would need to do this, leaves me just as confused as the next person. If I was 6’2 I would never even care about wearing any height increasing footwear.

Greg said on 27/Aug/19
@Sakz hahah yeah I was taller than her and she claimed 5’7 I guess she was 5’7 more or less, I was basically comfortably taller and she was in regular footwear so maybe I had a footwear advantage. I think she was just trying to make that statement out of sheer pettyness and immaturity lol because we fell out. But she commented on my Facebook status saying I’m 5’6 and my friends and I all had a good laugh we lit her up in the comments. My eye level is 5’6 range so there’s no way unless I was an alien or something but who knows 👽.

avi said on 27/Aug/19
@Lell said on 25/Aug/19

Well it's not unusual for sons to be shorter than father...

In my case my dad was peak 5'9. My mom 5'1-5'2 area I'm a weak 6'0. My sister 5'3.5.
My dad's father was weak 5'11ish (5'10.5 most likely based on my grandmother's analysis) . My dad's mother was 5'2.

My maternal uncle is 5'9 maybe peak 5'9.25, his father (my grandfather) peak 5'7 range.
The mom (my grandmother) peak strong 5'2 range.

A friend I had was 5'10 tops and his dad was 6'1.5 area maybe almost 6'2 when young. His mom maybe 5'4ish.

Another friend is 5'9.5ish and father weak 5'8. Mother 5'3.5 maybe.

I know 2 brothers from high school who had a 6'5 father and mother maybe 5'7ish and the elder brother was 6'1ish
Younger was 6'6ish.

Look at some celebrities out there too however remember with these people they are more likely to reach full potential due to their wealth and higher living standard.


@Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 25/Aug/19

I have been noticing that as well. Sometimes it seems younger generation is so tall with 6'0-6'2 being very common, but then I see a bunch of college aged kids 5'4-5'7. I start to think twice.

I do think there are a bit more 6'0+ in younger generation due to the diet of mother during prenatal care and throughout childhood.

All this stuff in the food nowadays definitely is making kids bigger.
But it's not like 5'8 kids are becoming 6'3 it's more like a child who is 6'2 may get 6'4-6'5 if pushed.
If you look at some tribes in Africa where there are cases of malnutrition and these people still grow tall but maybe would be taller in Western world.


@Sakz said on 26/Aug/19

I agree.
It's all how you feel. There are days I feel tall. Days i feel a bit above average and days I feel barely average.

I do look for tall people so if you concentrate on them it can cause a false perception.

I must say that 6'0 really isn't that tall though.

When you say:
"and at 6'0 you're not going to tower people who are average height."

That is very true. That is why I think I feel average only a lot of times.
I have this false expectation that at 6'0 I should be solidly taller than most people. That's just not true.

6'0 really only towers guys 5'7ish and under.
Average guys will pretty much be over your eyebrows and in your mid forehead so won't feel that much bigger than them

A lot of times when i compare height I'm in mid stride as I'm walking so maybe my posture is off.
I wonder if I was to look in the mirror and stand decent if I would be taller than those I feel are same or slightly taller than me?
Am I underestimating how tall I really am?
But I doubt I can get my co workers to agree to stand in front of the restroom mirror so I can compare height! :)

K.A 188 said on 27/Aug/19
@LUCA

There was a picture of Mario with Pogba who we all know is a solid 6ft3 191cm and Balotelli was noticeably 5cm shorter look it up on google image.... And they were both wearing same shoes and outfit.
But to be honest he does give a 6ft2ish impression but I still think he is probably 186-187 range barefoot maybe at most he is 189 out of bed and 187 at low barefoot but again the picture with Pogba really clears away any chance of Mario being over 6ft2.

Bobby 5'10 (178cm) said on 27/Aug/19
@ajax509

That video is very telling about why he's so delusional about height and unit conversions. He let slip that he was like 5'8-5'9 before, so probably would be barely taller than Rob by a 1/4 of an inch, maybe 1/2 of an inch. Now he's saying claiming to be 6'4 which is laughable. Even when I used to claim to be taller, due to never measuring myself and just guessing, I knew I had to be around the 5'11 area which to be fair, 5'10 is close to 5'11. So, anyway, Bartolongsleeve may not be the perfect specimen, but he is an exotic one.

AndrewV said on 27/Aug/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8"
Among young people of all ethnic backgrounds, 184cm is legit tall imo. However, if we narrow it down to young white guys it’s more on the borderline and 6’1”/185cm would be the start of legit tall. Also, you’re correct that Zoomers aren’t any taller than previous generations. Height has stagnated in the US since the 70s and the CDC data sets back this up.

@Goel175cm

I’d say you’re right, 5’9.5” is average with 6’0” and 5’7” being the start of tall and short, respectively. For white guys though I’d add 1-2cm to each category.

Emil said on 27/Aug/19
@ajax509

That's got to be the most inaccurate method I've ever seen. Pretty sure he over measured himself by a few centimeters

K.A 188 said on 27/Aug/19
@DOM 184CM

I said 182 is the beginning of tall because even at that height with the right proportions you will often give a tall impression especially if you are slim and broad shouldered.
Ofcourse is not a "towering" height but it is still tall...
The mistake people make is everybody this days is so desperate and obsessed with perfection.. .. I mean the most important thing for a MAN is to atleast be taller than 90% of WOMEN ,stop comparing yourself with other guys because no matter how tall or big you are, you will always see someone who is taller.

grizz said on 27/Aug/19
@Rob, I hope the photo is visible to you Click Here How tall is the woman? Guy is 190 cm tall.
Thanks in advance!

In regards to the discussion "is 6' tall or average". I went to a night club in Zagreb (Croatia), at 6' I felt above average and didn't feel towered by anyone. OK, I'm lying a bit, there were two people- one a strong 6'3 240 dude and another 6'4 260 lbs dude. However, these guys were bouncers so...

Greg said on 26/Aug/19
@Lell yeah I think we are, you feel below average in Sweden? 181cm can’t be average there that’s a bit above. I think most surveys have Sweden’s male average between 5’10-5’10.5 which is around an inch higher than U.S male average. I was around 5’9 range in Highschool and felt comfortably average if not a little over it but when I grew to my current height I started to feel comfortably above average and tallish range. I think most measurements/surveys are over exaggerated on and include shoes+morning height if not both or people just adding an inch or two otherwise. Because people say that 5’10 is the male average in America and I assure you it’s not if you’re a legit strong 5’10 you’re taller than most guys you come across. Like 60th range percentile.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 26/Aug/19
@Andrew
Personally I don't really get into the Standard Deviation stuff. I care more about percentiles.

Sakz said on 26/Aug/19
@AndrewV That's spot on. I also had the same experience as you in regards to not feeling tall when I was younger.

Greg said on 26/Aug/19
@Lell well I ended up my dads height more or less and my mom was 5’3 peak. However I know someone with 5’5 and 5’9 parents and they are 6’3 range so not sure where the height came from maybe from a grandfather or uncle. I know a kid who’s 6’4 but his dad was well over 6’0 the mom might have been tall for a lady as well. And I knew a few cases of guys reaching over 6’0 with shorter parents sometimes people win the genetic lottery as I say.

Chris brady said on 26/Aug/19
@ importer have you ever been six feet before bed? Is the highest part of your eyelid 5-7.4 or is that the middle of your eye height?

Public Enemy said on 26/Aug/19
Editor Rob: sometimes on the forum I read ‘ he / she would probably ‘measure taller’ as opposed to normal standing posture. Can these differences be significant and perceptual in nature?

Sakz said on 26/Aug/19
@Lell I can give you my family's example as my parents have a big difference in height. My mum is around 5'0 and my dad is 5'11, with me ending up around 6'1 and my brother around 5'6. I have 2 sisters one is 5'6 and the other around 5'4 so it's quite a mix. Apart from me everyone else is pretty much in the middle of my parents' height.

Bego said on 26/Aug/19
I keep seeing tourists from central and north Europe, i edged out and towered most of them

Sakz said on 26/Aug/19
@ajax509 Yeah that's usually how conclusions are drawn as to whether a height is tall. Percentile wise 6'0 is tall, but whether someone feels it is a different matter.

Sakz said on 26/Aug/19
@Jiggity 6'0-6'2 is a regular tall range. After that you can argue it becomes into the very tall range.

Sakz said on 26/Aug/19
@Greg Wow 5'6 at your height? Did a woman guess you at that?

cmillzz said on 26/Aug/19
@AndrewV
5’11 is further from average than 5’8, so I’m not sure why you include 5’11 in the average range but not 5’8, and why you’re also putting 5’9 in the lower end of average when it’s pretty much solid average? I consider anything within a half standard deviation from normal as “average”. 5’8 is 0.4 SDs from average and 5’11 is 0.6 SDs from average. So technically, 5’11 may be barely out of the average range, but 5’8 still firmly in it.


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And this is of course assuming the average really is as high as 5’9.3 though.

Goel175cm said on 26/Aug/19
@ Andrew V
The average height of youngsters(18-35) is 176.5cm.
Since,The measurements on were taken at mid afternoon so the average might be 176cm at night.
so is this height chart okay?
166-169cm- regular short
170-171cm- shortish
172-173cm- low average
174-178cm- average
179-180cm- high average
181-182cm- tallish
183-186cm- regular tall
The above chart is based on night heights.

mrfunnyguy said on 26/Aug/19
@Lell My parents have a big difference in height I would say. My mom is around 163-164cm, and my dad is around 188-189cm. I ended up around 185-186cm. People say it's common for sons to end up shorter than their dads, but in my experience it happens but is very uncommon.

Luca said on 26/Aug/19
@K.A.188 So you think he is shorter than us? Cause he s usually listed at our height at 188-189 cm

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 25/Aug/19
@Andrew
I guess 6'0.5" would be the start of tall if you're around young people then. To be honest though, I don't really see the younger generation getting any taller. They seem to be the same as middle aged (35-50) people.

Greg said on 25/Aug/19
@c-mo there’s nothing wrong with saying you wish you where a little taller I am sure most of us fall in the same boat, same with wishing you where a little shorter as well. This is a height forum after all and that doesn’t make us insecure if we say that. With that being said I agree a lot of times you can feel pretty solid average at your height. Even at my height I’ll usually be one of the tallest if not the tallest person in line. I agree that 178-180cm at night is a good height and often I’ll even get mistaken for taller like 5’11-6’0 on average. I’ve even gotten guessed taller/shorter so it depends on posture footwear and stuff.

Greg said on 25/Aug/19
@Christian well I got what you meant, and you’re not understanding what I was trying to say. I was saying you’re free to post anything here as you wish however it should somehow relate to height as Robs mentioned previously off topic comments are even deleted at time or not approved.

Lell said on 25/Aug/19
@Greg I think I'm exactly your height but at school most guys are slightly taller than me (6 foot range), so I wouldn't see myself as tallish, more like 45 percentile. When I was 177, I asked my nurse if I was below average and she said yes as the average was measured 181.5 cm for young guys aged 20-29 in Sweden.

In a tourist crowd, I'm definitely tallish/tall.

ajax509 said on 25/Aug/19
Alternative way of measuring height:
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AndrewV said on 25/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm

Being "tall" isn't really a matter of how much you tower over people so much as how many people are shorter than you. 183cm in the US would be in the 85th percentile of height (81st percentile for men under 50) so it's an objectively tall height since it's around 1 SD from average. You could make the case that a flat 6' can often feel only tallish or above average around young whites (like 75th percentile), but it is certainly on the taller side.

I'm basically your height and didn't feel tall either when I was younger. However, people started to regularly refer to me as "tall" or "kinda tall" and I began noticing that I was usually one of the tallest (if not the tallest) guys in most settings, so my perspective changed a bit.

AndrewV said on 25/Aug/19
@Dom184

6'0" is considered tall in the grand scheme of things but of course it's only 2-3 inches above the mean, so you're not exactly towering all the average 5'9-5'11" guys. I dare say even 6'2" really isn't enough to "tower" most people. Two standard deviations (~98th percentile) would be the start of very tall which is about 6'3" (6'4" if only counting young white men) in America. The tallest guys I see in class or at a food hall are generally around 6'3", anything over is pretty uncommon.

Lell said on 25/Aug/19
Hello everybody, what is your experience with parents whose heights have a big difference between each other? What heights did the kids end up?

My half-sister is 5'1" and her husband is about 6'2" (he said that he was 6'4" when young). I joked that if they would have a child he'd end up average, but their almost 9 month son is 99th percentile, everyone thinks he's older and he is bigger than his dad was at the same age. I calculated what height he'd be at the same percentile as an adult and I got between 192 and 194 cm.

My sister is short, but my mom says that her dad was tall at 187 cm, but she inherited her height from her paternal grandmother.

What is your experience of this? Would gladly like a response.

Canson said on 25/Aug/19
@Myself: I guess it varies from one person to the next. 196 probably wouldn’t be that bad at a low but 198 is steep to me. That makes you pending shoes 200-201 or even 201-202 in other shoes. I say steep because of a doorway in most places only being around 203cm.

K.A 188 said on 25/Aug/19
@LUCA
To be fair with Balotelli, he always looks solid tall he is probably between 6t1-6ft2, around 186.7
I remember seeing Mario close to 188 Chiellini and they looked almost similar.
Between I wonder why @ ROB has not given him a page yet?

Importer said on 25/Aug/19
@Chris Brady close to 6ft. I’m 182-183cm rather than 183-184cm.

puppy bobo said on 25/Aug/19
@ajax509
yeah i was a bit mistaken about the inches part, but where I live we usually use metric system and also round up or down, so in many people's minds 5'11 = 180cm, 6'=183cm, 6'1= 185cm. but strictly speaking they are all inches apart.

percentile thing still makes sense tho. 67th percentile simply means 67th out of 100 people. so ofc there's a lot more bodies in between 67th and 81st than 81st and 88th.

Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@Canson sometimes it’s fun to mess with Morons on here, I don’t take offense just merely laugh as it’s good entertainment. Playful banter if you will 😂. But Ajax thinks he’s changing history and making a name for himself so if he would like to be the laughing stock of celeb heights he can be my guest.

Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@Jiggity you deserve a cookie because you got the right idea. 6’0 is tall I would say 5’10.5-5’11 is tallish and anything over 5’11.5 is getting into the tall range. But a legit tall is after 6’1+ these people have a skewed view based on perception it seems.

Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@cmillzz Agreed and then these news might make you happy then Robs smited Angry angry Connor down with his golden stadiometer and this is a prime example why you should not mess with Rob Paul 👹🔥.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 24/Aug/19
@Greg
You're not understanding my point. My point is that 1A has nothing to do with Celebheights. 1A means that you have complete freedom of speech without getting punished or censored for it, but that only applies to government sectors.

ajax509 said on 24/Aug/19
Once you're heading from an average to a tallish height you'll recognize a bigger jump in the percentiles than from tallish to tall or, at times, very tall. There are simply far more men in the medium range. By this theory, 6 feet are definitly a tall height.

@puppy bobo It was not a stupid comment, I have to correct that, in case the first logical explanation for the classification "tall" on celebheights. 👍

Sakz said on 24/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm I think you're confusing tall and very tall. 6'0 isn't solid tall so that could explain why you don't feel and consider yourself tall. Perception has a lot to do with it as well as the people around you.

Sakz said on 24/Aug/19
@Paul 97 I would say 4 inches. If the average is 5'9 and you're 6'1, you'll feel solid tall without standing out as an example.

Nik said on 24/Aug/19
@ K.A 188 ! - I agree!

Jdubbz said on 24/Aug/19
@cmillzz: How tall are you again? I remember you saying either 185cm or 6’1 flat, correct me if I’m wrong.

Jdubbz said on 24/Aug/19
@cmillzz: according to Rob (on Rob’s page) he does appear to be under some sort of temp ban until September 1st.

c-mo said on 24/Aug/19
@cmillz

I am not insecure at all about my height . I dont know why you think that . only because I wish I was a little taller it doesnt mean that I am insecure . we are just talking about height thats what we are here for and I am just talking about height like all of you .

anyway ...

I just came back from the grocery store and I was spending a long time in the store because I was unsure what to buy etc. so I took my time (I also find grocery stores relaxing) . and while I was there I compared my height with other men . I felt very solid heightwise and a lot of men were shorter than me .but many of them were not germans but from countries with shorter people . however many germans (and other europeans) were also around my height and some were also a little shorter . and of course there were also a good amount of tall guys around too

there was a guy where I thought he had the perfect height or at least almost perfect . I compared myself to him and he was only a little taller :D he was probably 179cm at night or something MAYBE 180cm but defintiely not higher than 181cm that I am sure of . his height looked very aesthetic to me which made me also feel even better about my own height since I am only a little shorter than him


so no I really am not insecure . I just like to talk about height and I am a very analytic person . and I wish I was a little taller but that is normal

Bobby 5ft 10in said on 24/Aug/19
@Jdubbz

Yeah, I think you nailed it. A good 6'1.25 at a low or even at midday is a nice height to be. I'd love to be that tall myself.

Canson said on 24/Aug/19
@Cmillz: he got one this time

c-mo said on 24/Aug/19
@ K.A 188 !

why ? what did I do ? I am not insecure . where did you get this from ? this is nothing but projection from your side . what exactly have I been insecure about ? I said I like my height but I wish I was a few cm taller which is normal and has nothing to do with being insecure . I also didnt insult any member here and even apologoized if I came of as offensive because that is not my intention . so I dont know what you are talking about but I would like you to explain

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@Goel175cm

bro I know but I am living in central europe so I take that as a reference point .

also turkey and iran are not the only countries in west asia . azerbaijan , georgia, armenia , lebanon etc. are also west asian countries and they also have a similar average as turkey I think so I would be a bit above average for west asia overall yes . I dont count southwest asia (saudi arabia , yemen etc.) because they are different from us northern west asian people ethnically and they are also a lot shorter than us

but yeah I live in germany so I compare myself with european men and I am not short with them either but the average height for a young european man is rather around 178cm (evening) maybe even 179cm . so I am still in the "average range" but a little below the average . which is nothing bad ...I feel decent at my height even here . but I wish I was 180 - 184

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@Johan . I will answer you later mate

Nik Ashton said on 24/Aug/19
@ pov - What country are you from?

cmillzz said on 24/Aug/19
@C-mo
The only person who was actually insulting you was Connor. He was out of line and probably should get at least a temporary ban. Other than him though, I don’t see how anyone else is trying to belittle you or put you down. You kinda do seem insecure about your height though, which I don’t really understand.

Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@Ajax as soon as I joined these forums now you on the other hand unfortunately can’t say the same. Legend says Glenn visited Germany before and met with you... he said you weren’t much over 5’10 which would have been true if Glenn was really 5’8 but seeing hes 5’6 5/8ths and shrinking you wouldn’t be much over 5’9 🥴 bad news mate. Get them platform shoes with lifts 👍.

Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@Pov agreed but disagreed because although an inch or two isn’t much, a 6’0.5 guy Is tall you’re a a decent 6’1 in shoes and you’re telling me no one calls you tall? either you’re not really 6’0.5 or live in the Netherlands. And even then you would be above average lol.

Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@cmillzz Right well how tall are you then? And I’ve been referred to so 5’6 and 6’2 before so idc 🤷🏻‍♂️😂 doesn’t bother me man.

Dom 184cm said on 23/Aug/19
@K.A 188 !

182 is the start of tall? What?

At a little over 6'0 barefoot in the evening, and just under 6'1 barefoot in the morning, I don't feel tall at all.

@Greg

It's real rich when guys who probably aren't even 180 cm in the morning come in and try to invalidate other people's experiences. You say I'm either a liar or that I can't measure right? Yet my 6'0 barefoot was done at the doctors office?

Here's the point myself and other 6 foot guys have been trying to say:

There's a BIG difference between edging a guy out by 2 or 3 inches and completely showing him up by 5 or 6 inches.

The former can be done by a 6'0 guy. I can do the former. The latter, only 6'2+ guys can get away with that. I can't do the latter.

It's not my intention on arguing with you or anybody but you're the only person in this entire forum who accused me of being a liar. Everyone else listened and gave me their thoughts which I took in stride.

AndrewV said on 23/Aug/19
A solid 6'0" can be best described as the start of tall, at least in the US. Whether or not you feel solidly tall at 183cm-184cm depends on the demographic you're around. Walking around a grocery store or cityscape among guys of all ages and backgrounds, 6' is solidly tall at the 85th-90th percentile. However, around young white and black men at my school I feel more tallish than anything else, maybe 75th-80th percentile. I can feel legit tall a lot of the time, but there are many instances where I see a good chunk of white and black guys my height or taller. Around the latter demographic, I'd say a solid 6'1" would be the start of legit tall, at that height you'd feel tall almost all of the time.

CDC stats back this up, the American general male average is 5'9", 5'9.5" for ages 20-29 of all races, and a solid 5'10" for white and black men in their 20s and 30s.

Jdubbz said on 23/Aug/19
@paul97:

To feel tall but not stand out too much, I’d say the ideal height is around 186cm. So 3-4” above average.

Jdubbz said on 23/Aug/19
@paul97:

To feel tall but not stand out too much, I’d say the ideal height is around 186cm.

Jdubbz said on 23/Aug/19
@Ellis: yeah my mom is 5’2-5’3 so a good 15” shorter than me. She wasn’t stepping on a stool or anything and used a horizontal softcover book. Definitely possible she misread the mark or got the angle wrong. I did have an endocrinologist consultation earlier this month (thyroid issues) and an approx 6’0 male nurse measured me at 198cm during an early afternoon appointment. I’d trust the measurement done by a 6’0 guy with a stadiometer over one done by a 5’2.5 woman with a soft book, plus it’s more in line with my actual home measurements. But yea I’m never letting my folks measure me again 😅

Jiggity said on 23/Aug/19
@pov That's funny I'm 6' throughout the day and most people call me tall. I don't feel short at all, and many people would consider 6'-6'2 a tall height. Only time I feel short is when I play men's league with my friends who are between 6'4-6'8. I'd even consider 5'11 as somewhat tall.

Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Ajax509: But i have to respect Greg and Bobby’s opinions as they are entitled to them. They may feel strongly about certain things due to some of the comments being made around them on this page though. I also respect yours

Myself said on 23/Aug/19
@Canson
Yeah I agree that it may draw unwanted attention...i still have the thought that between 196-198 would be ideal for me. But there's no real point in thinking about it since i'm probably 100% done growing now. I'd like to gain another random 1/8" though...just the last hope left. I'm doing some lower body and spinal stretches lately; maybe it could slightly straighten my lumbar scoliosis...I believe that if I didn't have it I would've been at least 193+ cm at the lowest (maybe up to 1 cm gain, but idk). It's not a very big curve (nobody notices it), but it's still there, and it makes my hips slightly uneven.

Luca said on 23/Aug/19
@K.A.188 As I told you some time ago, I am exactly 1 cm taller than u... Since I'm Italian too, and I noticed that you had the same curiosity, what's your guess on Mario balotelli?Up to you what's his height in relation to ours?

Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Christian: I think when I had longer hair it did. I only figured it out because I grew it out recently before cutting again and same thing.

Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Greg: unfortunately there are some here too that can say anything and get away with it.

ajax509 said on 23/Aug/19
178cm average
184-186 tallish
= near 2.5 inches
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Paul97 said on 22/Aug/19
What would you guys say was, in terms of the number of inches above average, the ideal height for feeling tall but at the same time not too tall or standing out too much?

ajax509 said on 23/Aug/19
@puppy bobo My fingers were faster on the keyboard than me reading. You're absolutly right with the percentiles and your conclusion!!
I was simply a bit puzzled about the inches translation.
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ajax509 said on 22/Aug/19
@puppy bobo
Are you stupid? First of all, the difference betweeten 5'11", 6' and 6'1" always remains 1 inch = 2.54 centimetres! Second, the jump from the 5'11" percentile to the 6' is way smaller than from 6' to 6'1", check Laplace-Gauss on Wiki Click Here

puppy bobo said on 22/Aug/19
I see alot of people making meaningful distinction betwwen 6' and 6'1 but I beg to differ! 6' is 183cm and 6'1 is 185cm. that's only 2cm difference, which is bigger than that between 5'11 (180cm) and 6'.

if we assume the average height of young males in the US and UK is 177cm which is kinda correct, then according to CDC:

Click Here

5'11 - 67th percentile
6' - 81st percentile
6'1 - 88th percentile

way bigger gap between 5'11 and 6' than 6' and 6'1!

I think 6' is underrated in people's minds because so many 5'10 and 5'11 guys fraud their height in order to meet that magic number, but a legit 6' guy is actually taller thank you think.

Zeke said on 23/Aug/19
I always thought about this: even if you wear shoes that give you almost an inch of in height, wouldn’t people really not notice? Considering that most shoes in general happen to give roughly the same boost, it can be stated that relatively speaking, you probably wouldn’t look that much shorter or taller in a group of people who are all wearing shoes (heels being the exception, of course, let’s assume everybody’s wearing sneakers).

Johan 185 cm said on 23/Aug/19
puppy bobo said on 22/Aug/19
I see alot of people making meaningful distinction betwwen 6' and 6'1 but I beg to differ! 6' is 183cm and 6'1 is 185cm. that's only 2cm difference, which is bigger than that between 5'11 (180cm) and 6'.

if we assume the average height of young males in the US and UK is 177cm which is kinda correct, then according to CDC:

Click Here

5'11 - 67th percentile
6' - 81st percentile
6'1 - 88th percentile

way bigger gap between 5'11 and 6' than 6' and 6'1!

I think 6' is underrated in people's minds because so many 5'10 and 5'11 guys fraud their height in order to meet that magic number, but a legit 6' guy is actually taller thank you think.

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Well that shows as expected there is a massive jump going from 5'10" to 6'.

Interesting to see that 175 cm is only the 40.9 percentile. So under average while 178 cm is 57.5 percentile.

Even just 5'11" flat is 69.8 percentile. 180.34 cm to be exact. So a massive jump from 5'9" to 5'11".

However a 181-182 cm is also a 5'11" range guy and they come in at 77.6 percentile so the gap isn't that big since 183 cm is 81.6 percentile.

185 cm is 88.1 percentile but a 187 cm guy is 92.9 percentile and close to what many consider Strong tall.

As i thought myself around 189 cm is when you cross into that range where you are at all times considered tall. Its in the 95th and also backing up another of my assumptions that its 6'6" that starts real uncommon heights. (198 cm).

All I take from this is that 5'10-6' is a bridge between average and tall which many here already know i think and that around 6'3" you get into very tall range. Nice to have stats that support own beliefs.

Bobby 5ft 10in said on 23/Aug/19
@puppy bobo

This reminds me of an ideal height survey which I read several years ago. The consensus was that 6'1 was considered the perfect height for a man, with 6'2 not falling far behind, however, the jump to 6'3 was drastic insofar as undesirability went. What was also interesting was that 5'10 was much more appealing than 5'9 despite it being only an inch but that 5'11 was less so, if I recall. It was a weird survey.

cmillzz said on 22/Aug/19
ok 176cm is in the same category with 140cm and is a midget and 183cm is in the same category as 220cm and a giant . happy everybody ? :D be happy

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lol

cmillzz said on 22/Aug/19
@Greg
I was just correcting you. I’m sure if I referred to you as 5’9, you’d correct me too.

pov said on 22/Aug/19
I dont think people realise how small an inch actually is. For example i’m two inches taller than my cousin, but until we both measured we both thought I was only an inch taller. That’s why I don’t feel 6 foot as being tall. Most 5”9 (average) guys are slightly over my eyebrows I don’t feel that makes me tall. I feel you need to be atleast 5 inches over average to be considered “tall”. I think 6”2 is the start of tall, thats when people start referring to you as the “tall guy”. At 6”0.5 no one really calls me tall and I don’t feel it either.

Goel175cm said on 22/Aug/19
@c-mo
Why are you thinking about the average young European male height?
U are from turkey ri8? So you have got genes from Turkey
In Iran and Turkey , for age 18-30, the average is definitely no more than 5’9 or 175cm. The average 175cm has been proven by many sites. So At 176cm at night you are actually a bit above average for Turkey and Iran.
So you are actually from Western Asia.
The average 178cm at night for Europe is for those who belong to European ethnic background.
So you are not under average by 2cm. Intact you are 1cm above average for your country.
Waiting for your reply.

Ellis said on 22/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: Did your mother really measure you at only 6'4.25?, and you routinely get 6'5.5-75 at a low, that is pretty strange, but I think I might know why. I let my mom take my height once, she couldn't read the number, she took a picture at a really bad angle and it said 78 inches, bear in mind that I'm a foot and a couple inches taller than her. Since my dad and brother are closer in height I let them take it, even my dad at 6'3 has problems taking my height, since my brother is taller than my dad he can accurately take it.

Canson said on 22/Aug/19
@Myself: I would hate to duck all the time and looking at how hard it is at 6’4” to build muscle I surely wouldn’t want 2-3” more. It also just draws unwanted attention and hard fits on planes vehicles even chairs

Greg said on 22/Aug/19
@C-mo that’s Ajax for you he hits everybody in the face or at least tries too with his short reach, but at the end of the day what goes around comes around he will soon realize that it will come back and hit him in the face.

Greg said on 22/Aug/19
@Christian I think you’re not understand what I am trying to say so this is going to be my last response to you about this topic. I never said this has anything to do with the government and I know this website isn’t government funded lmao. However, if you think the Government is responsible for our freedom then you have another thing or two to think about. Anybody is free to post what they want hear as long as it’s not threatening or offensive and should mainly correlate to height as it is a height forum. Gee Rob isn’t British no way?! I know Glasgow was in Britain? I’ve been lied to my entire life I blame Australian Big G and his Girlfriend Big Roberta who’s a Spanish Immigrant from the Spanish part of Scotland.

Greg said on 22/Aug/19
@puppy bobo 177cm isn’t the Young average, wth lol. Average is more 175-176 cm maybe at a push. 5’11 is like 72nd percentile or something even 5’10.5 is like 67-68th percentile but each calculator will tell you something different. 6’0 is around 83rd and 6’1 most likely like 85-86th.

K.A 188 ! said on 22/Aug/19
@EVERYONE.....
Start of tall is 182 in my opinion

Dom 184cm said on 22/Aug/19
In my opinion 5'11, 6'0, and 6'1 are in a limbo position. You're not tall, you're not short, but you're not average either.

6'2 is when a guy begins as tall in the eyes of others in my opinion.

Been told I am tall by people but I don't see it. Women have told me in different contexts (dating, friends, strangers, co-workers, peers), but it's something I don't see. I'm open to the idea that I have a body image problem.

I told a few people in one of my high school English classes that I felt short and they were shocked and they said I was tall. Keep in mind I'm in a nice shoe and hitting 6'1.

Meanwhile, there were two football players in there who stood 6'3+. So yes, compared to those guys I am not tall. And a guy in there I became friends with was 6'2 barefoot because I asked him and he told me.

My plan is to buy insoles and try them out to hit 6'2 in a nice shoe.

K.A 188 ! said on 22/Aug/19
@C-MO
No one is trying to belittle you here on celebheights if anything you are the one projecting your insecurities unto other poster to be honest....

K.A 188 ! said on 22/Aug/19
@C-MO
No one is trying to belittle you here on celebheights if anything you are the one projecting your insecurities unto other poster to be honest....

QM6'1QM said on 22/Aug/19
Johan 185 cm said on 21/Aug/19

Literally my opinion about this comment.

Paul97 said on 22/Aug/19
What would you guys say was, in terms of the number of inches above average, the ideal height for feeling tall but at the same time not too tall or standing out too much?

ajax509 said on 22/Aug/19
IMO ideal would be at 50% (in my gender and age group). For Germany, that would be 178.9cm in the afternoon, so I fall short of by 1.7cm. Personally, I prefer "medium", some like "tallish" and many on CH - for whatever reason - "tall" or "very tall".
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john1 said on 20/Aug/19
Obviously the average height varies depending on things like the age group as well as the area you live in, so it would be interesting to hear what your guys 'ideal' percentile for height would be.

ajax509 said on 22/Aug/19
@Greg When have you ever made constructive comments? Bobby and 'little Greg' are only tolerated here, in school they call it inclusion.
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Greg said on 20/Aug/19
@Canson you’ve never had any issue with him but me and tons of others have he just isn’t trolling you. I think the kid might seriously be special needs not that there’s anything wrong with such but that would explain his irrationality. That being said ever since day 1 there’s been arguments here and will continue always because that’s just how it is unfortunately.

guythinkingaboutheight said on 22/Aug/19
@puppy bobo The difference between 6' and 6'1 is exactly the same as between 5'11 and 6', it's 2.54 cm (one inch); 5'11 is 180.34cm, 6' is 182.88cm, and 6'1 is 185.42cm.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 22/Aug/19
@Canson
Sorry, I'm confused. Did hair affect your measurement or not?

puppy bobo said on 22/Aug/19
I see alot of people making meaningful distinction betwwen 6' and 6'1 but I beg to differ! 6' is 183cm and 6'1 is 185cm. that's only 2cm difference, which is bigger than that between 5'11 (180cm) and 6'.

if we assume the average height of young males in the US and UK is 177cm which is kinda correct, then according to CDC:

Click Here

5'11 - 67th percentile
6' - 81st percentile
6'1 - 88th percentile

way bigger gap between 5'11 and 6' than 6' and 6'1!

I think 6' is underrated in people's minds because so many 5'10 and 5'11 guys fraud their height in order to meet that magic number, but a legit 6' guy is actually taller thank you think.

Littlelee5ft6 said on 21/Aug/19
No c-mo this is the first comment I've seen from you or noticed and I didn't know your height so I certainly didn't say anything below 177cm is heading towards short just because you were slightly under this mark. I said it because it's true though I'd say you'd have to be 3 inches below the average height of 5ft 9 to be considered short so 5ft 6 is short the same as 6 foot (3 inches above average) is the start of tall whereas 5ft 11 isn't seen as tall by many and 5ft 6 for a woman isn't seen as tall but 5ft 7 can be

Sakz said on 21/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm I think you just don't feel tall I used to feel the same. It wasn't until I realised how many people I edged out that I truly understood how tall I actually am. It's not about how many people you tower but rather how many you're taller than, and at 6'0 you're not going to tower people who are average height.

Myself said on 21/Aug/19
@Canson
Well yeah, but I just don't know if that's really such a huge issue...I guess you just get used to it.

Chris brady said on 21/Aug/19
@ importer your middle eye level is 5-7.4 and you are about 5-11.75? I would have thought you would be an even six foot.

Johan 185 cm said on 21/Aug/19
c-mo said on 19/Aug/19
@Johan 185 cm

172cm and 175cm are definitely different because as I said 172cm is 5-6cm below average while 175cm is only 2-3cm below average and is in the average range

and I am 176cm at night and one of my friends is 184cm and I dont look short next to him

even my 189cm friend doesnt tower over me or anything and he even thought I am 180cm in the beginning until I corrected him

and yes I am sure my 184cm friend is 184cm . I measured him 3 times and he claimed 184cm before I measured him

I somehow have the feeling that you guys are trolling me

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I just am trying to understand the logic in your statements.

175cm is average you say but 172 cm starts short? 183 cm is above average?

For instance in the UK, Rob has said average is 175-176cm, so short starts around 170 cm. Solid 2 inches gap. Anything between that 171-174 is under average, 177-180cm would be above average.

We however are talking about Europe where 178 cm is more average overall so thats 2cm more on each bracket at least. I view things objectively and am actually curious how you come to these outcomes.

A 3 inch gap while not huge is a noticeable difference. Being eyelevel with someones mouth is far different than their nose for instance.

If your other friend is legit 189 cm then he borderline towers you, he can look clear over your head?? Its the same as you standing with a 5'4" person.

ajax509 said on 21/Aug/19
@Jdubzz
Right, you measured yourself at 6ft 5.75-5 and your mother got 6ft 4.25? That's quite a difference! You might be able to post a measurement video?

ajax509 said on 21/Aug/19
@Bobby and Greg
Dom 184cm was joking. Also he wrote his eye-level is at most people's forehead, so he clearly states he's taller than average.

ajax509 said on 21/Aug/19
@c-mo you're a decent enough poster, I truly hope you'll stay.

Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 20/Aug/19
@Bego
184 may not be tall for you since you live in one of those Dinaric countries. But globally and even in most European countries, it's considered tall.

@Greg
But this site has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment. 1st Amendment only protects your speech from the government. First, this site isn't funded or operated by the government. It's privately owned, just like Youtube, Google etc. Second, Rob isn't American, he's British. No such thing as 1st Amendment in Britain. Maybe there's a British equivalent to it though.

avi said on 20/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm said on 19/Aug/19

Yes 6'0 isn't that tall but most of time you will feel solidly above average. So it's still a decently large height. I am maybe 1.5 cm less than you at night so basically weak 6'0 I consider myself I do notice alot of guys are barely above my eyebrows so at 6'0ish I would think most guys would be a bit below your mid forehead. Sometimes you think they are taller than they are if you look in mirror you will see different.

The guys who are taller than me I normally am in the middle of their forehead. Rarely will someone tower me (where I'm under their eyebrows) that would be a strong 6'4 guy.

@Greg

Yeah 6'0 is considered tall maybe weak tall but I think the point guys like me or Dom are making is that it's not that tall or where you'd feel solid tall.
To me solid tall is 6'1 maybe 6'1.5.

I guess sometimes I focus on the taller people and can get caught up in them lol

And yes I'm in that range (weak 6'0) so to me 6'4 would be very tall.
6'3 I'm still above the eyebrows by almost an inch in most cases so no big deal
At this point I don't care about comparing to people too tall.
To me 6'3 is too gawky of a height but it bothers me a bit when I see people 6'1 to 6'2ish as 6'1-6'2 range is where I want to be.
And not sure where you live but I'm in an area with maybe 60-70k population and some more affluent areas around me so I'm getting a large diverse group here so me seeing 6'2-6'5 is going to be more common.
If I go to a mall I will definitely see some 6'2-6'4 people for sure. Even one or 2 6'5-6'6 would be expected.

yeah thanks man you're a cool poster too .
People here get too wound up at times. We all need to calm down and respect other's opinions. :)
See ya around

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
But it doesn't mean that I live in the downtown area or anything like that. I live in a suburb, that's why I don't often encounter as many people as I would If I'd lived downtown. Btw, didn't you mention before that you live in a college town or something like that? That could be the reason why the average is taller and you encounter more tall people.

Greg said on 20/Aug/19
@Canson you’ve never had any issue with him but me and tons of others have he just isn’t trolling you. I think the kid might seriously be special needs not that there’s anything wrong with such but that would explain his irrationality. That being said ever since day 1 there’s been arguments here and will continue always because that’s just how it is unfortunately.

Greg said on 20/Aug/19
@Ajax and does that mean you’re demoted back to primary school?
@Bobby he might be just as bad if not worse than the Australian Big G, which makes me wonder since his maths is 2 cms off he is most likely 175 cm or 5’9 Yeah Ajax around 5’9 is a fair claim for you 👍

Dom 184cm said on 20/Aug/19
@Greg

I'm not eye level with most men. I am at forehead level. I'm either looking at a guys forehead or just over his head.

I don't tower over people unless they're less than 5'8. 6'1 in a nice shoe I am comfortably taller than most men but not towering over them.

184 is upper average out here. 190 is where it really gets real.

Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Christian: I confirmed what I suspected before about my hair being shorter being why I measured differently. I used to get around 6’4.5 at a low when I first began on the site and that was likely why. It’s possible I did lose maybe 1/8” max as even when I gradually cut it shorter I was only 6’4 3/8 and now I’m barely over 6’4.25. However that is all different under a stadio as a doctor measured me 6’4 3/8 on that a few years back looking at a physical from back then

Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Ellis: 6’4 is the cutoff on the low end or high end? I disagree on both. Low end 6’3” flat 6’6 high end. 6’6.5 or maybe 2M is where you hit the extreme category

Jdubbz said on 20/Aug/19
@Myself: haha I was doubting myself for a couple of days, but stadiometers, aerosol cans, mirrors, and tape measures don’t lie.

My area is definitely strange, but yours sounds like it is as well based on how you describe it. Not seeing anyone above 194 at a shopping center is really hard for me to imagine. Then again you’ve said that people guess you at 2 meters fairly often, which is pretty crazy for a 192cm range guy. I guess your average really is on the shorter side if people overestimate you that much. What would you say the average is in your area?

Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Christian: other than the Guys I hang out with currently that are taller, I rarely see someone my height. I’m in the DC suburbs though in Virginia. Even when I go into city, I see someone taller once in a while probably on average 30% of the time. Otherwise I see someone my height probably 60% of the time. My height meaning a solid 6’4” or over as I would have a more difficult time gauging a solid 6’4” or 6’4 1/8” from myself

Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: I think a solid 6’3” at a low is very tall

Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Dom184: me being a 193-194 guy, 6’0” is tall

Sakz said on 20/Aug/19
@Canson I agree with that. A lot of people have stated they don't believe 6'0 is tall, but I understand everyone has different opinions and experiences. It's what makes height an interesting topic and I think that should be embraced.

QM6'1QM said on 20/Aug/19
Dom 184cm said on 19/Aug/19

At least 75% of guys noticeable shorter than 6'/ 183 cm, i'm about 3 cms taller (185.7-8 cm) and must say: 6ft is a tall, especially in the US and all around the world for men.
I don't know, it was my 16yrs old height and i felt and saw me tall (especially beyond the edge of my room), lol.
Your comment sounds a little bit of goofy.

john1 said on 20/Aug/19
Obviously the average height varies depending on things like the age group as well as the area you live in, so it would be interesting to hear what your guys 'ideal' percentile for height would be.

Bobby 178cm said on 20/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm

So, you're stating for the record that you are eye level with the top of people's foreheads or looking at the top of their heads but you think you're not tall? I don't know about that. You're almost 6'1. I'd love to be 184cm.

c-mo said on 20/Aug/19
ajax509

its very low from you to hit me in the face that I repeat myself often . I also already often said that I repeat myself often when I repeat myself

btw. that study is 12 years old :D which doesnt mean that it doesnt have any legitimacy but people most likely grew a bit since then

look at some of the average for 18 - 39 year olds (which matters the most to me ) in big cities . some are 5'11.5 and even 6'0 . Hamburg even 6'1 . and overall 5'11 which is what I was saying from the beginning . and yes it seems overall for whole germany young men average at 178.9 in that study . today it is closer to 180cm

ajax509 said on 20/Aug/19
@Bobby I'm so proud of you! You're promoted to the next grade, junior high.
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Bobby 178cm said on 19/Aug/19
@C-Mo

You misunderstood my statement entirely. Out of the two: 177 and 175, which one is closest to 180? It's 177, right? That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that compared to 175 and 180, that 177 is much closer to 180. I know that mathematically the difference is only 2cm.

Myself said on 20/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
Maybe your mother's measurement (of you) was actually right and you're just 6'4.25!
You probably only grew in your head, each time unconsciously angling the can higher and higher until you became fully satisfied with the result! Maybe the cause was Glenn's curse and only Rob will be able to open your eyes to the reality of your shortness!
Jk hahah

But on a serious note, It's really strange...how can the average possibly differ THAT much from your place to mine? I know it's possible of course, but it's not like it's the Netherlands!
I rarely see someone above 6'1; usually I feel like the tallest guy I encounter is someone in 6'2 maybe 6'3 range. When I go to the shopping center or to the waterfront though, out of many people I may see like a couple or 3 max (if I've been walking for a long time) guys between 189 and 194, but still pretty much never someone more than 1 inch taller.

Bego said on 20/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm 190cm is true start of tall height. Thats a legit tall height with a good definition of tallness. 184cm is just tallish, not above avg and not tall just something in between. I have never considered my self tall, but i can be considered big especially with muscules on, thats a thing. And when you say most, elaborate it, most can be anywhere from 55% to 90%.

ajax509 said on 20/Aug/19
Yeah, by the time of his death, his body was measured 168.5cm. French army soldiers averaged at 164cm by then. So quite a myth!
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Miss Sandy Cowell said on 19/Aug/19
....but Napoleon wasn't even that short for his day!

Greg said on 20/Aug/19
@Dom 184 that’s a lie you’re not eye level with most Men unless you’re living in holland or something so either you’re lying or you need to check your height again 184 is 85th percentile in America try again buddy.

@c-mo don’t go please bb I’ll buy you a weiner schnitzel and a apfel strudel if you stay 😉.

Greg said on 20/Aug/19
@cmillzz Well I don’t remember how tall you are so idrc.

Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Myself: 6’6-6’7 is too tall for Me. Constantly hitting doorways etc

ajax509 said on 20/Aug/19
@Greg Praise the Lord, your limited vocabulary reminds of a mexican immigrant. In real life, you'd need an even bigger reach advantage to out run me nerf. 🔫 After I'm done with you, 'little Greg' can join the exclusive 0ft 0in club! Watch out 👀, 'Big G' 🗽 is bouncer in front of the 'Manlet Hell' 🔥, you know he's an expert for shoe lifts. ;) Then again, next to G himself, you'd probably still pull of your hilarious 5ft 11 claim. 📏🤣🤣🤣
#SovietsInTexas #ManletsInHell💪🔥

ajax509 said on 20/Aug/19
@Bobby How do you measure outseam, do you mean navel height? If so, you'd pretty much pressed the measuring device into your crotch - I hope you still have the same pitch!

E.g., mine is 84 and 108cm respectively.
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Bobby 178cm said on 18/Aug/19
@ajax509

I need leg lengthening surgery? LOL. What's wrong with you? My legs are already quite long for my height. My inseam is 34 inches and my outer seam is 41 inches long.

Ellis said on 19/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: That is actually really cool to think about, and yeah I meant what you said. I agree the cutoff for very tall is 6'4.
@Christian: That's interesting.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Aug/19
@Canson
I agree, words like "average" and "tall" are all relative. If I was in the NBA, I'd be considered average heighted, but I wouldn't get upset over it at all. I have nothing against Connor, but he shouldn't have gotten uptight about being called above average.

cmillzz said on 19/Aug/19
@Greg
I’m comfortably taller than 5’8, dude.

Dom 184cm said on 19/Aug/19
An anecdote to add to the 6'0 debate.

I am a measured strong 6ft barefoot at the doctor's office at 4:00 the afternoon. I am a 20 year old American man. 184cm barefoot for my friends outside the states.

I am at eye level with most guys foreheads or the top of their head.

6'0 is NOT tall. Trust a 6'0 guy.

c-mo said on 19/Aug/19
@Johan 185 cm

172cm and 175cm are definitely different because as I said 172cm is 5-6cm below average while 175cm is only 2-3cm below average and is in the average range

and I am 176cm at night and one of my friends is 184cm and I dont look short next to him

even my 189cm friend doesnt tower over me or anything and he even thought I am 180cm in the beginning until I corrected him

and yes I am sure my 184cm friend is 184cm . I measured him 3 times and he claimed 184cm before I measured him

I somehow have the feeling that you guys are trolling me


I really dont know whats going on . only because I said 6'0 is above average and not tall imo and only because I said average height for europe is 5'10 which IS the truth everybody seems offended and now we have a bunch of guys here acting like vulvultures and try to discredit me and my height and try to put me down

ok 176cm is in the same category with 140cm and is a midget and 183cm is in the same category as 220cm and a giant . happy everybody ? :D be happy

cmillzz said on 19/Aug/19
@LittleLee
There has to be a cut-off somewhere (even though I disagree with C-mo that 172cm is the start of short). Think of it like the age of majority, there has to be a cut-off for that too. Sure, 17 and 18 are only one year apart, but in the eyes of the law there is a big difference between those ages in that a 17 year old is a minor and an 18 year old is an adult.

Totigno said on 19/Aug/19
178cm or 175cm is the same height than 165cm
well i don't think this way but some taller guys and heightist girls do, anything below 180cm

I heard it!!

Jdubbz said on 19/Aug/19
@Christian: that’s shocking to me as I assumed there would be a lot of very tall men in a place like LA. I have a cm on you and if I go anywhere remotely populated it’s not that uncommon to find guys who are my height. As for 6’3.5” being the start of very tall in my area, I can agree since it’s close enough to 6’4. Anything under that though (even 6’3.25) id call tall rather than very tall..

Bobby 178cm said on 19/Aug/19
@C-Mo

You misunderstood my statement entirely. Out of the two: 177 and 175, which one is closest to 180? It's 177, right? That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that compared to 175 and 180, that 177 is much closer to 180. I know that mathematically the difference is only 2cm.

Greg said on 19/Aug/19
@c-mo sorry bro I respect your opinion but we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one because I think you’re over estimating the average a bit. You can make an argument for 5’9.5-5’10 for the Younger generation as it’s a shade higher than the U.S avg but 5’11 average no way even in Germany I get it you have been living there your entire life but outside of the Netherlands or Dinarc Alps/ perhaps Bosnia and Norway. Those stats aren’t measured more likely surveyed and or shoe measurements out of bed. Don’t believe most “data” that has been gathered it’s usually exaggerated.

@Christian You missed the point, I didn’t say you could post anything here. I know the TOS and Rob as the site master approves what goes and doesn’t here. However, the first amendment should and does apply here as long as you are polite and respectful here, and try to be on the topic of height or at least close. I do believe many posters are going out of line here like ajax and guest66 that are borderline harassing posters over little nonsense but Rob doesn’t seem to bat an eye after all he’s given guys like Arthur a second chance from the Ban Hammer. Seems to me his trusty golden stadiometer still shines bright though.

@Avi aye what’s going on. well that’s fair because also 6’2 isn’t much taller than you to be fair it’s not that much taller than me but it’s a reasonable amount. I feel like anything that’s perhaps 4-5 inches of margin over your height should be considered very tall for example say you’re 5’11.5-.75 don’t quote me I kind of forgot but say 6’3 range and 6’4 would be considered very tall to you or even a weak 6’4. It’s also standout at least in US/UK and a few other countries. 6’2 isn’t really common here I mean I’m sure if you walk around a busy mall or town center you’ll find a few 6’2 guys but truthfully not that many. Outside of my friend group I really don’t know that many 6’2 guys thus it makes me come to the conclusion it’s pretty tall at around 93rd percentile. I agree though we manage to compromise but that’s because you’re a chill poster and one of the few people here that doesn’t spew bs and try to wind people up by making up illogical random facts 👌.

K.A 188 ! said on 19/Aug/19
@LUCA
My absolute lowest ever measured was 187.6 after 8 hours of work.
But usually during the day i measure 188.4

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Aug/19
@Bego
Wealth certainly is linked to tallness to some degree. It's not even up for debate. Why do you think that the upper class of a third world or underdeveloped country is always the tallest group? Even in more developed countries like the US, I notice that the wealthy are on average a bit taller than the rest. I'm not the only one who notices it. Just ask any other poster and they'll tell you the same thing. More wealth = better nutrition and healthcare.

ajax509 said on 19/Aug/19
@c-mo We don't have Alzheimer's, it's ok to comment "golden range is 180-184cm", but not once every week! By the way, overall average at 179cm is nonsense.

In Germany overall mean height (men 18-79y/o) is 175.4cm, younger men average 178.9cm. IMO the study Click Here is trustworthy, sample population (N= m/f:19,768) was wide enough.

@c-mo I classify you as a solid 176cm and Bobby flat 177.

185cmJeff said on 19/Aug/19
I am 185cm and I feel that I’m roughly in the 85%-90% I do above average/tall but there’s some situations where I will encounter people taller than me on a daily basis as I live in a city.

Myself said on 19/Aug/19
@Christian
I agree with your classification.

I also saw only like 3-4 max guys very close to or over 2 meters in an entire year. The most recent one was a week ago in a bar; I was sitting reading the newspaper and while finishing my cappuccino I saw this obviously tall aged man from the corner of my eye. When I stood up I realized he was like 4 inches taller! (3.5-4.5" max my estimation)
It was the tallest person I've seen in more than a year.
After seeing him I actually had my first doubts on wanting to be that tall, but at the end of the day I would probably still take it, provided that my proportions remain the same at least. (I'd rather be 6'6-6'7 I think though)

c-mo said on 19/Aug/19
Littlelee5ft6 said on 17/Aug/19
C-mo you see 172 as short but not 173??? Nobody can notice 1cm. Sorry but if 172 is short so is 173cm anything below the UK average of 177cm is heading into short category

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as I said (and I guess you missed my height chart) 172cm is the start of short and 173-174cm is borderline / buffer zone and a bit shortish . a 172cm wont be that short and a 173cm man wont look different much all of a sudden compared to a 172cm man . but there needs to be a cutoff point and that cut off is around 172cm imo . height is a spectrum basically .

a 172cm will look fairly average often and wont stand out as the short guy often . but it is definitely starting to be a bit short

also what you are saying doesnt match with what connor is saying ...hmmmmmmmmmmm ....he says that 5'8 - 5'9 is average and now you are saying that anything below 177cm is heading into short category .

you see guys ? this is when you have people letting their personal issues with other posters (in this case with me) get in their way of judging things objectively

you only say that below 177cm is heading towards short because I am 176cm in the evening . oh I missed it by 1cm right ? yeah seems legit . you are just offended because I say 172cm is short but my height is not so you see the need to "put me in my place" which is also most likely because you feel attacked about your own height by me

this is ridiculous


@Rob

if this nonsense doesnt stop and if people here dont stop to be offensive towards me for no reason then I will quit posting here

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Aug/19
@Canson
How often do you see someone your height or taller? I know it depends on how populated a city is, and also how often you go outdoors. I'm in the LA metro area, so I see at least one person taller than me every week on average, but if I lived in a more rural place, it can probably go a month or two.

Miss Sandy Cowell said on 19/Aug/19
....but Napoleon wasn't even that short for his day!

Jdubbz said on 18/Aug/19
@Canson: that hasn't been my experience at all, but judging from what other posters have said here it's possible that there's just an unusually high concentration of tall guys where I live (city near Dallas TX). I definitely see 6'3+ guys each and every time I go out, and guys my height (I consider guys "my height" to be 6'5 3/8 - 6'6 since it's hard for me to discern cm differences irl), at least once a week, more often than not several times a week. I have no doubt that what I'm seeing is a bit of an anomaly, even I'm shocked how many guys around my height and even taller I see.

Canson said on 18/Aug/19
@Christian: I totally believe that!

Greg said on 18/Aug/19
@Christian @Canson wouldn’t surprise me, I think some doctors might give them out to people even if they aren’t behind in growth I can’t imagine if I had some I would be well over 6’0 even if I did not wish to get into pro sports, it’s interesting to think about.

Bobby 178cm said on 18/Aug/19
@ajax509

I need leg lengthening surgery? LOL. What's wrong with you? My legs are already quite long for my height. My inseam is 34 inches and my outer seam is 41 inches long. I don't get you, I really don't. I think you need a psychiatrist to evaluate you. If Sigmund Freud were still alive, he'd probably conclude you have some unrepressed sexual motivations towards your mother and is the reason for your moronic comments. Also, what the hell does my previous comment have anything to do with what you just said? You're conflating the issue. I think you're very confused. You need help big time.

Greg said on 18/Aug/19
@cmillzz 5’11 is tallish, even a strong 5’10 can be described as tallish what you wouldn’t describe as tall is different then someone else he’ll at a weak 5’11 I’ve gotten referred to as tall or “kind of tall” while it’s not on the same tall as say a 6’1 guy it’s still above the average and with the right proportions you can look seem taller. 5’7 is below average actually closer to your height which is 5’8 if I remembered correctly so unless you think you’re short lol I don’t want to hear it.

Canson said on 18/Aug/19
@Ajax509: I don’t wanna say one height is ideal or not but i am over 6’2” but I wouldn’t be switching being 6’4” for being 5’9” anytime soon. Not saying one is bad and the other is not but I think that both should be accepted by the person

Canson said on 18/Aug/19
@Greg: to be honest, I don’t get why people have those types of arguments and why people get uptight and upset about their height being called average on this forum. We know that 6’0” isn’t average so no need for anyone to be upset about it. If someone called 6’4” average height of course I wouldn’t agree but I probably would just laugh at the same time because it’s false but probably wouldn’t bother with an argument because it’s so laughable

Canson said on 18/Aug/19
5’9” is likely avg not 5’10

Canson said on 18/Aug/19
@Greg: I’ve never had an issue with Ajax509

Johan 185 cm said on 18/Aug/19
c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
@ Johan 185 cm

nah ... 172 - 175cm are not in the same category really . 175cm is only 2-3cm below average for young men and almost bang on average when you include older men too . while 172cm is 5-6cm below average . a 175cm man will look fairly average height while 172cm is a bit short .

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Has to be a cut off point somewhere. Could also argue that 179 cm isn't just average in some countries or that 183 cm is tall and not upper average where I put it.

I put 172 cm and 175cm together because they are imo under average. One comes under my eyes and the other is just over. A 172 cm guy will not feel different next to a 175 cm guy. 2-3 cm is not alot when interacting with people.

I see you said to Connor that 6ft is above average. 183 cm is 8cm taller than a 175cm guy. Even a 176cm guy is short next to a 183 cm.

JD1996 said on 18/Aug/19
I seem to be a little taller lately used to be 199.1 cm for the longest time now I seem to be 200 cm which is a little surprise. Haven’t really said before where I think tall starts but I would say around 6’1” is where people can look pretty tall at times to me. I think very tall starts somewhere between 6’3”-6’4”.

Jdubbz said on 18/Aug/19
@Greg:

I just meant that he overreacted a little bit, not that he wasn’t allowed to say what he did. Also I’m pretty sure he’s British (as is this site) so I’m not sure how the 1st amendment plays into things lol

Connor Simpson said on 18/Aug/19
@Greg Thanks yeah exactly, im glad not the only one who thinks what c-mo said was embarrassing lol 😂

Greg said on 18/Aug/19
@ajax509 Gee you’re creative, I would rather be a yank than a brain dead Nazi who’s not even sure on measurements himself. How can you ask people for their papers if you never learned how to write? 😭 poor little timmy mad he isn’t a legit 5’10, you’re a 5’9.5 guy face the facts you can join the club, maybe with your big boy boots on 🥴. Ask any poster here when have I ever mentioned I drop to 177.9cm, I’m always above 178 and by a good amount my lows around 178.5ish. Case dismissed we are now talking you to Court Big Robs the judge and Big G is the Plantiff, my Lawyer is Josh the case of man (little Ajax) vs height. Stop telling c-mo what to do perhaps in the time you spent trying to control him you could have worked on gaining brain cells to get your facts straight and come across as more smart, mature etc. but you don’t have many to begin with I rest my case sauerkraut.

cmillzz said on 18/Aug/19
@Paycho
How I view it:
5’6 and under: short
5’6.5-5’7.5: below average/shortish
5’8-5’10.5: average
5’11-6’0: above average/tallish
6’0.5-6’3: tall
6’3.5-6’5.5: very tall
6’6-6’8: extremely tall
6’9+: giant

c-mo said on 18/Aug/19
@Arthur

I am a strong 176cm not a weak one . I am 176cm or slightly above even in the afternoon after being awake for 6 and more hours . and at night I only slightly fall below 176cm like 175.9 or 175.8cm or something . it is also hard to measure it exactly to the point even with a stadiometer because of how hard you press etc. . but I am around the 176cm mark even in the evening pretty much so thats a STRONG 176cm not a weak one . I am 177cm after being awake for 1.5 - 2 hours so if anything I am a weak 177cm man not weak 176cm . and I wont even argue about this because it would be silly . weak 176cm ....lol .....


@Greg

I dont only notice taller men . and I live here since around 30 years . the official average height for germany is 5'11 without old men . and it is correct . ajax509 also lives in germany and he also said that average for germany is around 179cm . for only the younger generation it is rather 180cm easily . there is no room for discussion ....you cant know it better than us living here and the official stats are also clear


@ajax509

I am not complaining about my height . whats wrong with you people do you have processing issues ? I say A and you understand it as B . enough with this please . I already said often that I have a decent height and feel quite good . I just with I was a little taller thats all . you have guys here who are 6'0 or even taller who wish they were taller but I dont see you accusing them about complaining their height . are you guys gathering and conspire on me or what ? lol :D

Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 18/Aug/19
@Greg
Technically, we don't have complete freedom of speech on this site though. There are Terms Of Service. It's owned and operated by Rob, so he has the right to approve or delete any comment he wants to. 1st Amendment doesn't apply to CelebHeights.

Luca said on 17/Aug/19
Rob, these days I ve been really thoughtful about it, and I'd like to know your opinion : since what I wrote you in my last post, should I consider as my "realest" height the one with Feet apart or the one with them together?

Bobby 178cm said on 17/Aug/19
@Arthur

Nah, I'd say I'm a solid 177cm discounting that I can dip under at an extreme low. Unless you're accounting for extreme lows too. But I still don't see how 5'10 could be average amongst younger Greeks, unless we're counting morning height or something, in which case, I'm exactly 5'10.5 in the morning. Other statistics place 5'9.75 or about 5'10 as the average for young Greeks. It doesn't explain me feeling above average there though.

Bego said on 17/Aug/19
Wealth has nothing to do with heights. Thats a myth and bs. Height is associated with genetics mostly and lifestyle (food, exercise etc..) in minority which might help you only to gain 1inch more max. Height is usually nature's giving alot too. I know some dudes who are like over 190cm but their dad is 175cm where as i know my friend who is 176cm but his dad is my height 184cm.

Miss Sandy Cowell said on 17/Aug/19
How tall is Mr Viper? 🐍

avi said on 17/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19

6'0 is more a tallish / above average height.

It's not really that tall. In the Western world especially. I agree that in 3rd world countries it would be tall sometimes very tall.

6'0 is one of the most unique heights as it's obviously not short , it's not really average but it's also not really tall
So people will have varying opinions on whether 6'0 is solid tall.

6'1 I would classify as tall.

I don't think you need to take things so personally on here as I said on Rob's page

You are saying "I didn't do anything wrong..." Or "I don't think you even know how tall legitimate 182cm and 183cm men really are"
These types of things are actually provoking others and you have no call to make a conclusion on what someone does or doesn't know.

It's like you are always trying to convince yourself or reassure yourself or something.

I think your comment is frankly very rude to @C-mo

Telling him to pi$$ off and saying he doesn't "know sh$t"

It's honestly quite hypocritical as it would appear you'd be the one doing the harassing and you have the audacity to say "you'd go to Rob to report him"


@jdubbz

I would agree that strong 6'3/6'4 would be start of very tall.


@Greg

Hey Greg!

I don't know I don't think 6'2 is very tall. It's just a tall height. Like I said it would be the highest optimal height for everyday living.

I see 6'2 guys almost everyday i normally am just local and at work so not like I'm in large crowds.



But at least we can disagree about something and not rip each other's heads off like most people seem to be doing here now :)

Greg said on 17/Aug/19
@C-mo I see well it definitely could have been interpreted as such but I see where you are coming from and you know I like you as a poster I have no issues with you and never had any in the past. In terms of what you said about Cranston he is a legit 5’10 peak I think he was the full 5’11 if not really close because he managed to look tallish in Malcom in the middle. With that being said I think the averages Vary everywhere you go and sometimes people in taller countries can be shorter my Bus driver for the tour was Serbian and he was around Robs height more or less so that’s under their average by a decent bit. I think generally speaking the European average is marginally higher than the U.S but it would all depend. I wish I was Connors height too he’ll i wouldn’t mind growing another inch I’m sure you wouldn’t either.

@ellis Maybe not a flat 5’9 and 5’10 but if you compare 5’9 to 5’10.5-5’11 which is basically in the same catagory you will see what I mean. Not just making a case for 5’9 and 5’11 because that’s obviously a two inch different and most people will agree that 5’10 and 6’0 are in two different catagories and that’s represented by again 2 inches.

kamb246 said on 17/Aug/19
chill out @Connor Simpson you're just insulting people. chill out bro. no problem

Littlelee5ft6 said on 17/Aug/19
C-mo you see 172 as short but not 173??? Nobody can notice 1cm. Sorry but if 172 is short so is 173cm anything below the UK average of 177cm is heading into short category

c-mo said on 17/Aug/19
Bobby 178cm said on 15/Aug/19

177cm is closer to 180 than 175.


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uhm I think any mathematician will disagree with you xD

cmillzz said on 17/Aug/19
@c-mo
Would you really take 5’10 over 6’2 though?

Jdubbz said on 16/Aug/19
@Ellis:

Do you mean that both 6'1 and 6'3 guys are tall, but your cutoff for very tall is 6'5? If so I agree, though I'd push the threshold for very tall down to flat 6'4 or perhaps Canson's height rather than legit 6'5. And don't get me wrong, I consider 6'1 guys tall too, but I think of tall, standout tall, very tall, etc. as separate things. Like if I see a 6'1 guy and a 6'5 guy, both will appear tall though obviously the 6'5 guy is in a different league. I agree though, after 6'3 things get much rarer. I read a statistic somewhere that there are 20 6'3 guys for every 6'6 guy, and that sounds about right judging from what I've seen. In your case there are probably like 50 6'3 guys for every legit 6'7. It's pretty cool to think about, since you are to a 6'3 guy what a 6'3 guy is to the general population in terms of rarity.

Jdubbz said on 16/Aug/19
@Cmillzz:

I agree. 6'10+ guys are truly rare, like maybe once a year rare. It's pretty easy to pick them out considering how much they massively dwarf the entire population. I'd look tiny next to one of those guys. It's easier for me to tell whether someone is 6'7 compared to an average height guy for obvious reasons, and if you don't count the guys I've seen multiple times, I see a new one maybe once every week or two. That's still obviously a very rare height, but it's nothing compared to 6'10+.

Jdubbz said on 16/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson:

I don't see how he insulted you exactly...sure calling you deluded isn't exactly nice, but it's not like he personally insulted your character or anything like that. This seems like a big misunderstanding to me.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Ellis
But I'm around 6'5" and I don't encounter anyone my height or taller for at least a whole week, sometimes even a couple weeks, and I live in a big populated area like LA.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
I know some might disagree, but anything 6" taller than the average is "very tall" in my book. So in the US it would be 6'3"+. I know that the average is around 5'9.5" where you live, so it might be 6'3.5" for you. And "giant" would be over 11" taller, so 6'8"+ IMO.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Canson
Do you believe that HGH is administered to some basketball players when they're young to make them super tall though? I don't doubt that for a second.

Canson said on 16/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: I agree with everything Ellis said. You may go days without seeing a guy over 6’3”. I am often the tallest person in the room unless I’m around one of my close friends, 3 of which are taller than me and one of which is pretty much a solid 6’3 (6’2 7/8 at 60)

Greg said on 16/Aug/19
@Bobby Agreed Napoleon aka Ajax has been trolling this forum for the past 2 weeks now it’s a shame he won’t come to his senses 😂

ajax509 said on 16/Aug/19
Yeah it's my fault, sorry for that! I'd just missed you're a Yankee, it's not about measurements, it's about alternative facts 🇺🇸. Either you agree on a size difference 👍 or you just spread untruths.

By now, I think it would be best to start a CelebHeights.com fundraiser, Headline: Leg lengthening surgery for our beloved board member 'Bobby 178cm'.
I'm sure, if you stop idiotic comments on this thread a large donation will come together.
And if that isn't enough 📏, we just ask Elon Musk to shoot you into space 🚀 so you can keep your morning height 24/7.
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Bobby 178cm said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
I forget what his low is personally. I can't remember if I'm half an inch or three quarters of an inch taller than he is, but my point was that I don't place 175 in the same category as 177 let alone 178. Even if the difference is just 2cm, 177cm is closer to 180 than 175.
@Ajax509
You're an idiot, C-Mo and I have established in the past that we are half an inch apart, which is 1.3cm. Just because our morning measurements are close doesn't mean we are under 1cm apart. I wasn't downgrading anyone. I can't remember what his low was.
@C-Mo
I didn't mean to offend you. I honestly couldn't recall what your regular low was. Mine is 177.2cm, what was yours again? Like 176cm? Well, let's say that. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I didn't mean for it to escalate like this.

ajax509 said on 16/Aug/19
@c-mo
maybe quit complaining about your height, it is like every once in a week we read "bla bla 180-184cm golden range". Accept your own height! For a solid 5ft 9, many men would swap their own height within the blink of an eye!! In my opinion, your height is much more ideal than any height over 6ft 2. Carry it!

Greg said on 16/Aug/19
@c-mo I disagree 5’10 can’t really be the average all around Europe you are most likely walking around town and paying attention to the taller guys as opposed to the shorter guys. Sometimes it can feel that way but I’m telling you that is now the case. Sure you could feel the younger generation in Germany might average 5’10-5’11 because you notice the tall guys but that’s not true.

@Mikeg 5’11 Well personally once you hit 6’0 you should be viewed as tall especially if you’re a legit 6’0 in most places hitting around 6’1 range in shoes that’s a tall guy. Also again proportions have a lot to do with it so if you have good proportions in decent footwear that will increase the perception. It’s also different in retrospect to who’s observing your height.

Greg said on 16/Aug/19
@Jddubz Freedom of Speech 1st Amendment Connor can post and say whatever he wants it was a Disagreement between the two C-mo seems to have explained himself a little bit more, but I agree with Connor though it seemed like c-mo was purposely trying to make it seem so that Connors height was only viewed as above average whilst all of a sudden .5 inches taller or up was tall lmao like no it don’t work that way.

Arthur! said on 16/Aug/19
If c-mo wakes up at 178.3 cm he can't be under 175.5 cm at his worst. He is a weak 176 cm guy. Bobby is more of a flat 177 cm guy than a solid one. You guys are only half an inch apart, you both are in the same category. 5'9 to 5'11 is average range. That doesnt mean of course that 5'9 is the same as 5'10 nor the same as 5'11. Every 1 cm counts in the average range, that's the truth.

Why does everyone find it so hard to believe that young greeks are at least 5'10? In the UK average height is 5'9 and for youngsters it's 5'10. Wikipedia pegs are our average down as 5'9.5, so young greeks average at 5'10.5, which makes sense because I am 178.5 cm at my usual low and I feel quite average amongst the younger generation, but since I live in the more wealthy suburbs of Athens I sometimes tend to feel 1 or 2 cm below against the YOUNGER, I REPEAT, YOUNGER GENERATION. I feel 2 cm taller against the whole male population. I never said the average male height of all ages is 5'10, of course it's in the 5'9 range, but your own out of nowhere 5'8 range estimates for the male greek average are hilarious. There is no way IN HELL you d see more 5'5 young guys than 6'3, so that's why Im suggesting the average's at least 5'10 or a bit more for youngsters.

cmillzz said on 16/Aug/19
@Greg
If 5’7 is short, then 5’11 is tall. I don’t know about you, but I would never describe a 5’11 guy as being “tall”.

Paycho said on 16/Aug/19
Hey rob
What is the difference between "medium height" and "average height". People sometimes use them interchangeably. But i get the sense that "medium height" is more broad and covering a wider range like 5"7-5"11 maybe less (including below and above average). While average height is a narrow range, even one number. "Medium height" is more a normal range than average range for most people. Do you agree? I would really like your input on this subject?
Thanks

Importer said on 16/Aug/19
Good to know

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Cmillzz
It also depends on what type of place they live. Seeing a 6'10"+ guy is more common if you live in a big populated city. A 6'7" guy can never see anyone taller than him for years, if he lives in a rural area.

Luca said on 16/Aug/19
@K.A.188 what is your absolute lowest height ever reached?

c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
@ Johan 185 cm

nah ... 172 - 175cm are not in the same category really . 175cm is only 2-3cm below average for young men and almost bang on average when you include older men too . while 172cm is 5-6cm below average . a 175cm man will look fairly average height while 172cm is a bit short

look at Robert Knepper for example . he is a weak 175cm even so not even the strongest 175cm guy and when I watched prison break I NEVER thought his height as short . I also thought he has a nice and aesthetic height always. while at the same tiem look at actor aron paul . I dont know if you watched breaking bad and he doesnt look that "short" to me either but he does seem a bit shortish or below average

compare him with bryan cranston who is 5'10

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he is 172cm (at least he is listed at that and I think rob listed him correctly) . a 175cm man would look different next to bryan cranston be sure of that

in fact I have a 181cm friend and the difference between me and is less than between these both actors


a 175cm man will wake at 177cm or so so he will be closer to 180cm even than to 172cm in the morning while a 172cm man will wake at 174cm or so so he will not even be 175cm even in the morning . it is a difference trust me .

grant heslov seems to be a strong 175cm and compare him with 5'10 range george clooney

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I mean you might argue that Aron Paul might be a little shorter than 172cm ? maybe . but I doubt it . either way 172cm and 175cm are pretty different because as I said at 175cm you are only a bit below average while at 172cm you fall more strongly below average .

in before "gEoRgE cLoOnEy Is 5'9" ....nope he isnt


I have the feeling that people want to put 175cm with 172 or even 170cm here just because I am 176cm in the evening . as if you dont want to "grant me" to be in the same category with 178 - 180cm or even 177cm . lol . wtf is going on haha


I mean you can think what you want of course . but I can tell you that 172cm and 175cm even are pretty different and the jump from 172cm to 175cm is pretty big because you jump from a bit short to average height



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@Greg

I didnt even attack bobby nor was I "defensive" . you shouldnt take the way I am writing the wrong way . I might sound like a know it better person or even angry sometimes but thats only because it is hard to talk on the internet . if you talked to me in real life you would know what I mean . I was not attacking bobby or anybody . nor did I try to disrespect connor or anybody . I just wanted to state my opinion nothing more


to answer your questions :

I live in southwest area of center germany so I am not even living in the north where people are even taller . average here is 5'11 for non elderly ethnic german men and 5'10 if you include the older ones too and probably around 5'9 when you also include immigrants . as I said I dont feel short here at 5'9.25 night height . also southern europeans and people like russians are rather around my height on average ...south europeans might even be a bit below my height on average . I think I am also a bit above average for turkey where I am from (I am kurdish btw.) . but people like germans , croats , serbs etc ? they are easily 5'11 on average ..... easily


regarding Rob . no I dont think Rob is "short" . but Robs height is what I consider the buffer zone or borderline height as I wrote in my height chart below . it is below average but not properly "short" yet and can look and feel average often . Rob also says the same btw. about his height . he said this a couple of times already too so I am not making it up either thats how Rob feels how 5'8 is . 173 - 174cm at night is the buffer zone and anything below 173cm at night starts to become short and anything above 174cm at night is definitely not short at all anymore and will be average for sure . of course at heights like 172cm you will not be suddenly become strongly short and a 172cm man and even a 170cm man can look and feel average and wont stand out but it definitely starts to fall in the "shorter side" a bit . and of course at 175cm you will not start to tower all the 170-172cm men all of a sudden lol but at 175cm you definitely are out of the "short side" and will look and feel fairly average most of the time ....but you can sometimes of course feel a bit shortish at 175cm even but not nearly as much as with 172cm and below

Rob has very good proportions btw. . he has very aesthetic proportions


and regarding connor :

I know I sounded a bit fussy and also as if I dont grant him his opinion . which was not my intention . I respect his opinion and if he feels tall then I believe him of course . he is above average height anyway . and 6'0 is a perfect height to be I wish I was his height :D

Ellis said on 15/Aug/19
@Jbubbz: I agree with what you are saying. 5'9 and 5'10 are not in two different categories, 5'9 and 5'11 can definitely make a case for it.

I think being a legit 6'7 guy, that even 6'0 is not by any means average. Actually, by some notions it could be accountable as tall. Somebody posted that they don't feel tall at 6'0.5, it's hard for me to tell because I dwarf everyone, but I feel as if 6'1 is a tall height. 6'3 is really the cutoff, after that the heights become rarer and less frequent, but even 6'1 is a tall height, despite the fact that is accompanied by a much larger count then people 6'3, it is a tall height. However, 6'3 is a height you will always see, I believe the cut off is at 6'5, at 6'5 flat at night, there is a chance you might not see anyone that height the whole day. That is why when some people see me they acknowledge my presence, it really showed when I was recently in a populated area, and I stood next to a measure up thing, and when I say everyone, literally everyone, like 15 people stopped to look at how tall I was, it was kinda weird, but shows just how insecure people can be with height, there had to be like 20 people in the room.

Jdubbz said on 15/Aug/19
@Canson: Idk if I'd call 190cm very tall. A 6'2.8" guy doesn't give the same "tall guy" impression that someone of your height does. I'd argue that the 190-193cm range is the borderline area between tall and very tall, since it is standout tall in public (especially 192-193cm) but doesn't really tower average height guys like a 194cm+ guy would.

Bego said on 15/Aug/19
@pov 185cm is what i consider start of tall. 182 to 184cm is just tallish.

Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz This has nothing to do with him disagreeing with my opinions and that he doesn't consider me tall thats fine idc but its nothing to do with that.

Im angry with him because he wasnt respecting me and Bobby when he said to us that we were deluded just for having different opinions than his, now you cant seriously tell me that's acceptable. He was out of order and i wasnt just going to sit back and not do anything, i had every right to speak out against him. I dont condone what he did and if i feel like giving people a piece of my mind when they provoke me i will do and ill continue to defend myself and other people whether you like it or not, so sorry to disappoint you but im sticking to my guns with this.

Canson said on 15/Aug/19
@Christian: that’s interesting about Yao. I’ve never heard that until now. Even if it isn’t true I still never heard Eugenics associated with him

Canson said on 15/Aug/19
@Christian: that’s interesting about Yao. I’ve never heard that until now

Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19
@c-mo I was offended because of how you spoke to me and Bobby and no you didn't respect our opinions at all because if you did you wouldn't have said to us that we were deluded so quit the BS, and i know the average height here way better than you do Mr Know it all.

For the last time it's not 5'10, for the young generation perhaps but overall for all ages and all races, even for European men it is still much less than 5'10, trust me ive seen way more 5'9 and 5'8 men than 5'10, and i guarantee you its not just where i live, the average would be lower everywhere else too. Just because some surveys report the UK average to be 5'10 doesn't necessarily mean that its true, thats just what some people think it is.

And how is 182-183cm "rather a little above average"? that makes no sense. I don't think you even know how tall legitimate 182cm and 183cm men really are, in that range you are clearly taller than most men you walk past, ill even show you my percentile for my height in the UK since you think you know everything:

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And as usual you keep refusing to acknowledge that the average height wont be the same in other countries so its quite obvious that you still didn't do any research, you dont know s**t. The global average IS less than 5'10 because most men are below it, i even proved it to you and yet you are still denying it, im not going to argue with you anymore and my patience is wearing thin, ive had a pretty stressful day today so im not in the mood for this.

Now let me set the record straight to you, i dont like you i dont think you respect me and Bobby at all or anyone else for that matter, and if you reply to me again then i will report you to Rob for harassment, now piss off.

Bobby 178cm said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz

I forget what his low is personally. I can't remember if I'm half an inch or three quarters of an inch taller than he is, but my point was that I don't place 175 in the same category as 177 let alone 178. Even if the difference is just 2cm, 177cm is closer to 180 than 175.

@Ajax509

You're an idiot. C-Mo and I have established in the past that we are half an inch apart, which is 1.3cm. Just because our morning measurements are close doesn't mean we are under 1cm apart. I wasn't downgrading anyone. I can't remember what his low was.

@C-Mo

I didn't mean to offend you. I honestly couldn't recall what your regular low was. Mine is 177.2cm, what was yours again? Like 176cm? Well, let's say that. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I didn't mean for it to escalate like this.

ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
Let me finish my comment on height in Germany:
I'm from Germany too and I can verify average is 178.9cm

Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19
@ajax509 Ive not done anything wrong, i have every right to stand up for myself after how rude c-mo was to me and Bobby calling us deluded all just because we had different opinions than his, if you got a problem with that then take it up with Rob, but he acted like everything he was saying was factual, if anyone is deluded it's him because its all subjective. There's no right or wrong answer and he needs to realize that.

Jdubbz said on 15/Aug/19
@Ajax: I’d say very tall is 193+ rather than 190+. Everything else is spot on though.

Jdubbz said on 15/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson: Jesus Christ dude, you don’t have to go off on a rant just because C-mo disagrees with your views and doesn’t consider you tall. It’s really not that big of a deal, you know if you’re tall and you don’t need someone else’s approval for that.

@Bobby: you and C-mo are most certainly not in a different category. He’s not a flat 175cm, closer to 176cm I think. That’s a half inch difference between you and him. Different category would be like if C-mo was a weak 5’9 and you were a strong 5’10 or weak 5’11. Weak 5’10 and strong 5’9 aren’t that different.

ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
If c-mo's a solid 175cm then you're a flat 176. Do the math 179.1-178.3cm = 0.8cm
I don't respect posters who downgrade others. Whilst upgrading yourself, that's pretty steep!! 😂
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Bobby 178cm said on 13/Aug/19
@C-Mo

Actually, given your low as being around a solid 175 and myself a solid 177 at a low, I am 2cm taller than you. Almost an inch taller. My height is in a different category to yours. Anyway, my comment wasn't meant to attack you, I just don't agree with categorizing 5'9 and 5'11 in the same category as each other. A 181cm man is going to be seen as tallish whereas a 175 man will feel average height. That's 6cm apart, not in the same category. If you had said something like 180 to 183 or something, it'd make more sense. A 6cm difference is almost 3 inches or about 2.5 inches.

c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
bobby

I didnt get it as an attack and I also didnt attack you either . I am just saying that what you are saying doesnt make sense .

I am 176cm in the evening or slightly below . not 175cm . so you are 1.3cm taller than me . make it 1.5cm if you want doesnt matter . so you are basically only a bit taller than me but place me with 170cm men in a category and yourself with 181cm men ? really ? lol wtf bro

I am also closer to 180cm than to 170cm . you are just a little closer to 180cm than me but to place yourself in the same category with 181cm (which is not wrong btw.) but placing me with 170cm men .....nah thats total bs

I am 5'10 in the morning and 5'9.25 at night and get placed with 5'7 men in a category by a guy who is not even 1 inch taller than me who places himself with 5'11.25 men in one category but leaving me ...his fellow average height bro out :p hehe

Emil said on 15/Aug/19
@Houss

It's hard to assess based on that picture taken the angle and perspective into account, but I'd go with 6-7 inches (15-18 cm).

Bego said on 15/Aug/19
I was on concert yesterday here in Modrac lake in Robinzon, there were about 1k people there. Avg seemed by height, i felt bellow avg few times, there was a huge security guard About 195cm possibly larger i didnt pay much attebtion, he was so huge and wide, he is the legit biggest guy i have saw in my life, all muscular.

ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
c-mo wrote multiple times his range is 178.3-175.8cm, damn get you're own facts right! I'm from Germany too and I can verify average is 178.9cm for

K.A 188 ! said on 15/Aug/19
@MYSELF
For the generations born in the 90's just like you and me . I think the average is 175-180 cm, of course exception are always there but generally speaking thats the average.
At times i wonder if the average will keep increasing or stabilize? Like in Holland or Germany.

Canson said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: I’d start very tall at about 190 and go up to 200. 180-189 would be tall imho

ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
@Connor
Last days, you are running out of control. Calm down mate!
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Connor Simpson said on 13/Aug/19
@c-mo you act like you know everything Mr Know it all, let people have their opinions about heights they are entitled to them and you were out of line for what you said about us, if you reply to me again im not even going to bother messaging you back, ive got better things to do with my time than waste it on toxic people like you, you're a waste of space.

ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
If both barefooted/same stance, 6.5 inches.
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houss said on 13/Aug/19
How much is the difference between the two
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c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson

why are you so angry though ? and why are you insulting me ? xD lol

I have posted links of average heights for europe 2-3 hours ago or so and they will be up later or maybe the post will be up before this one which I am writing right now and you can see there that average is in the around 178cm evening for young european men .

5'10 is the average height for european men not 5'9 and for sure not 5'8 . if it is around 5'8 where you live then it is only because of all the people who have foreign ancestry and hail from shorter countries and when you also include old men . if you want to include them to measure the average then you can do it of course . it is up to you .

in that case yes 6'0 would be tall . and 6'0 is also tall outside of europe of course. and even for europe it is above average as I also said . you talk as if I said that 6'0 is short or something lol . I just dont think it is solid "tall" you know .....and I said 6'0.5 because that would be imo the bare minimum height where you could argue that is tall for an ethnic young european guy . basically 184cm at night . but 185cm and over I would say is where real tall starts . 182-183cm is rather a litle above average . of course there will be a decent amount of people who will see a 6'0 man as tall of course ....it is a bit of a difficult matter . I didnt try to lecture you about your heihgt and didnt want to offend you . I just gave my opinion . and I respect your opinion . I also think 6'0 is the perfect height btw. :) so I am a fan of your height

and here in germany average is AT LEAST 5'10 but rather 5'11 for ethnic young german men btw. . I dont think anywhere in germany the average for young german guys is any less than 5'10 on average and if it is then such cities/regions would be atypical . I am not even in the north btw.

and I am not 175.1-2 cm at night . I am 176 - 176.1 cm in the afternoon after being awake for 6+ hours and 175.9cm at night or slightly below like 175.8cm . so I am "CLOSER" to 180cm than to 170cm . you know what CLOSER means right ?

I am not saying that I am "close to 180cm" like a 179cm guy or whatever . my point was that I am always closer to 180cm than I am to 170cm on any time of the day so you can not put me in the same category as 170cm . and if we take your view on average height then it would make even less sense to put me in the same category with 170cm because you say average is 5'8 - 5'9 and I am 5'10 in the morning and a little above 5'9 even at night so I would be above average according to that and if you put me with 5'7 in the same category you would basically put an above average guy with a below average height in the same category which doesnt make any sense

also bobby is only 1.3cm or so taller than me thats why I found it weird how he lists himself with 181cm in the same category but I am with 170cm in the same cateogry according to him even though he is barely taller than me and we are both around average height lol .

thats like putting a 180.3cm man in the same category with 184cm but a 179cm man in the same category with 173cm . it doesnt make any sense . you can not even put a 174cm guy in the same category with 170cm because a 174cm guy is 3-4cm below average while a 170cm guy is 7-8cm below average . my brother is 174cm at night and he looks pretty average even though on the weaker side... or at worst a little below average while 170cm men look very obviously below average

I am actually quite surprised by your reaction . I wouldnt have thought that you will talk like this lol

I didnt want to offend you

Greg said on 15/Aug/19
@Ajax You make absolutely no sense, If by Napoleon you are referring to yourself Than yes Mr. Dynamite we might not Vote for Pedro’s compaign after all Lord Manlet wouldn’t want to get angry as you’re the overseer of them. I don’t agree with this unless you are talking about some European Countries. Anything over 176 is above average in US and UK. So 177 is marginally above average even ask Bobby he’s form Canada so going by their average . 179-180 is above average to tallish. 182+ is getting into the tall range and 185 is legit tall and anything 188+ will be a standout tall.

cmillzz said on 15/Aug/19
A 6’10 guy could go years without seeing someone his height or taller. 6’7, I doubt, unless they never leave their house.

Johan 185 cm said on 15/Aug/19
I would say that 172-175 cm belong more together as they are under average but not short heights.

176-179cm as being average and maybe 180-183 as being above average. Anything over 184 cm being regular tall and over 190 cm very tall.

All low heights.

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Aug/19
@Importer
It's possible. After all, some athletes are known to use steroids and other performance enhancements, and there are more that use them but we just don't know about it. I saw a conspiracy theory online that in China, they even use eugenics to breed people to be extremely tall in order to play basketball, It's been rumored that Yao Ming was bred via eugenics, but I l'd doubt it.

mikeg5'11 said on 15/Aug/19
c-mo I dont think that 6'0.5 is the bare minimun to be considered tall I mean is the same as 6'0 and you dont considered that tall tbh 6'1.5 is the bare minimun to be tall since average is atleast 5'10

c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
@Importer

The average height for young men worldwide is rather 5‘7.5 ....no way is it 5‘9

Has any of you seen this site/forum ? the thread is about average male height and it looks reasonably accurate to me

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Stats are between 2006 and 2010 though

another site with averages but the values are all at point zero and probably rounded up or down or something . (it is in german)

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also take a look at this site this one is really cool . probably the most up to date site . it seems the stats are for 2017-2018 :

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you can change the gender when you click on the top left where it says “women” and you can change it to map view by clicking on top right on “switch to map” . you can also choose the birth year of the men on the bottom. It seems that it calculates only the heights of 18 year olds no matter what birth year you are putting it on . correct me if I am wrong . which would mean you might add 1-2cm for possible late growth but I doubt this is necessary


The first link (the one from the forum ) says that the average height for young european men is 177.5 cm .

I also calculated the average height for european men from the second link/site but without turkey and georgia , even though they are borderline european countries (armenia and azerbaijan and cyprus are not on the list ) . and I didnt include romania and moldavia because their average is low compared to their neighbors ....a reason for that could be that they have a lot of romanis in their country who are not really ethnic europeans but might have been included in the statistics thats why I didnt include them . the same problem applies to other countries in the balkan area and even other european countries too but I still included them . I also didnt include albania at 174cm because that value seems unrealistic to me ...there are also some other heights which seem unrealistic to me like 178cm for montenegro seems too low or 179cm for france seems too high .

anyway I got an average of 178.857 cm with this calculation . when I DO include romania/bulgaria/albania/turkey/georgia I get 178.325cm

with the third link I adjusted the birth year to 1996 and I got these average heights for europe :

I didnt include turkey/armenia/georgia/azerbaijan/cyprus because they are borderline european countries .

I have done 2 calculations . one without russia , moldova , romania , albania and one with them . the reason why I excluded russia is that russia has many different ethnic groups and also people who are of east asian or similar ethnic make up and not ethnic european . and moldova + romania are most likely that low because of the romanis as I said . I actually would have also exclude some other countries from the balkan area + hungary because of the romanis and I think the UK average would also be higher without the all immigrants . but I didnt exclude them because that would be too many countries to exclude. and albania is a mystery to me too . I highly doubt the average height for ethnic albanians is that „low“ .

so the results are :

without russia/moldova/romania/albania = 179.12 cm

with russia/moldova/romania/albania = 178.67cm

wow ....

so since it seems that the stats are for 18 year olds we could even add 1-2cm because some will grow a little until 20 – 25 . some might even grow more than that and have a late growth spurt . that would make the average easily 180cm or even a bit more for ethnic european men in 2019 . I do think that these measurements are from earlier in the day . maybe some are even self reported ? I dont know . but it does seem that the average height for a young european man is around 178cm in the evening either way . all data points us to that value roughly . definitely no lower than 177cm evening either way . so 6‘0 is NOT „tall“ as I said . and the average height for europe is NOT 5‘9 let alone 5‘8 but a solid 5’10 or even a bit more . average range is 5‘9 – 5’11 even though 5'9 is almost already a bit below the average range . 5‘8 and 6‘0 are buffer zone or borderline heights . 5‘7 is starting to get short and 6‘1 is the start of tall

so the notion that "average is 5'8-5'9" or "6'0 is tall ! " are not accurate .

Paycho said on 14/Aug/19
Hey rob,
The comments below ,which debates the average height range in europe is interesting,but contradicts alot of the statistics iv seen. What do you think is average range in europe and what would be considered short there?(im not from europe so i really dont know) and what european coutries would be below that average of europe?
Thanks

Nik Ashton said on 14/Aug/19
I agree with Connor about the average being 5’8” - 5’9”!