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avi said on 7/Sep/19
@Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 5/Sep/19

I don't know. On campus there are definitely more 5'11-6'3 guys.

I have been some larger campuses to visit and normally in a larger function like a job fair or student event there are a handful of 6'4-6'6 guys.
When I visited I was probably 5'11 flat maybe 5'11.25 and I felt barely over average.
I feel 6'1 on campus is still tall but barely.
I can attest that even in the strong 5'11 range I was very rarely under someone's eyebrows.



@Chris Brady

Yeah at 6'2-6'3 one will never feel towered in fact they may be the one who "towers" others.
Even in the supposed giant land that is the Netherlands. 6'3 is still tall there too. So he's probably not a legit 6'2.75 and is one of those people who feels shirt even if next to someone same height or marginally taller. I've been in that situation before but the mind plays tricks. The difference feels overstated.

Tower is generally 4-5 inches taller
Nik Ashton said on 7/Sep/19
@ Bego -5’10” is tall in a lot of countries and it is a tall height in some parts of some western countries!
Bego said on 7/Sep/19
@Emil You need to measure most of population to get better results
Bego said on 7/Sep/19
@Emil Any university you do the test here will be 181 to 185cm on avg. In Herzegovina i believe they can measure more than 185 in universities.
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 7/Sep/19
@aalo1

Foot size isn't indicative of one's stature. I am 2 inches shorter than you and my foot size is 10 inches from heel to toe and I wear a size 11 shoe. Are your feet small? No, they're bigger than mine, aren't they? I wouldn't be concerned with your foot size, it's got nothing to do with your height. Most guys have a size 10 foot.
Bego said on 7/Sep/19
@viper I heard in Maryland even at 178cm you will feel tallish there.
aal01 said on 7/Sep/19
Just curious, what's an average shoe size for a 6'0 man? I'm 6'0 give or take (not sure of exact measurements) and my foot measures about 10.75" heel to toe. My shoes all range from 10.5-11.5 depending on the brand but most consistently 10.5. Is this a normal size, I feel like my feet are a bit small?
Emil said on 7/Sep/19
Dutch people aren't even the tallest in the world, and they barely surpass the Scandinavians.
Even the 183.9 cm average for Bosnians isnt reliable at all, since that only involved students from a certain university - not to mention that there were likely tons of students who weren't willing to participate out of deterrence. The same accounts for a height study that was conducted for students in a Serbian university, where the average turned out to be 182 cm - not reliable at all since it only involved a narrow segment of the total population.

There was even a study conducted in Montenegro which pertained to the younger people between 17-20. Average height for men was 183.2 - it involved several regions though.. but still, I doubt it's reliable.

Only measurements you can really lean towards are those conducted by the military
viper said on 7/Sep/19
When I go to Maryland football games the average height is around 5-9 for the students.

That guy is trolling
Bego said on 6/Sep/19
@Johan 185 Do you have Facebook or Insta?
avi said on 6/Sep/19
@ifkyou said on 5/Sep/19

If you are 6'2-6'3 , 6'4 isn't "tower" you...

So what you see some college kids who are standing outside and you pass by and notice the tall ones that stick out.

Out of 200 males I would expect a handful of 6'2-6'5 range.

Plus you probably overestimated thebl height on some
You may see someone and think "6'5" and they are barely 6'4.

You'd be surprised that those who you feel shorter than or actually you're height sometimes even a bit smaller.

I do agree though it seems the younger generation are taller. But it's not like a bunch of 6'4-6'6 guys roaming around.

From my experience it's 5'11-6'2 as being more common. With 6'3 popping up as well
6'4-6'5 is still massive nowadays.

No surprise. The food these kids are raised on is full of hormones , fortification and additives. So it's not really "natural" growth a lot of times.

I have been to a few colleges and noticed more taller people of course but as Greg said 6'5-6'6 really is the top still
I do recall seeing one or 2 6'7-6'8 guys
Basketball player of course.

@PJ Dalton said on 5/Sep/19

If he took a nap for more than an hour he regained some height.
In morning or after sleeping for awhile we are all taller.
Our spine gets stretched out and discs rehydrate. During day gravity compresses the spine.

I remember one time when I was a strong 5'10.5 (maybe 8 or 9 years ago)at a low I was in bed for a solid day and when I woke up my parents were like what happened?? As I was just about 5'11.5 (they measured me) so it was actually noticable.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Sep/19
@Johan
I don't really consider my self as that, but thanks anyway!
Bego said on 6/Sep/19
@Gyro Where you from in Australia? And how do you feel walking down the street?
Greg said on 6/Sep/19
@Christian well I’m not talking about baits, those are different and specifically designed to provoke a user on a sensitive topic or form of information. However, between the arguments with you and Andrea or even them and myself it’s mainly Andrea’s fault I noticed. Sure you can say it’s partially yours for firing back but who would blame someone? They always stick their nose in everyone’s business and thinks they are right. But if people like that didn’t exist the forum would be a better place.
Greg said on 6/Sep/19
@Pj Dalton you can’t grow taller from a nap lol.. if that was the case I would have taken many naps and grown well over 6’0 as a kid. I think you guys might have thought he was shorter and measured him to find out he’s “grown” but it was most likely over a bigger course of time. almost 5’10 at 13 years old I would be surprised if he ended up below 6’0, he’ll i was 5’1 at 13, so I’m guessing he will grow to at least 6’2, maybe max 6’4, because kids who hit big spurts earlier could also stop early. Hell he could end up like Rob and stop growing at 14 and be a 5’10 guy.
Blake said on 6/Sep/19
@PJ Dalton If you measure your height out of bed you are on average about a couple of cm taller than in the evening after a day at work or school.
Dhrew Ghelani said on 6/Sep/19
@Johan, whereabouts in the Netherlands are you from? No way in hell 181cm is average. I lived in Breda, North Brabant for 13 and a half months, I'm 184cm barefoot, and I noticed a lot of tall people everywhere, I was also the shortest out of my housemates except one Bulgarian one who was shorter than me. I would say I was the lower end of the average range in South Holland I'd say 186cm is average for Young Dutch people, North Holland has a lot more immigrants (Algerians, Moroccans, Surinamese, Indonesians) which may make the average height lower.
Dhrew Ghelani said on 6/Sep/19
@Johan, whereabouts in the Netherlands are you from? No way in hell 181cm is average. I lived in Breda, North Brabant for 13 and a half months, I'm 184cm barefoot, and I noticed a lot of tall people everywhere, I was also the shortest out of my housemates except one Bulgarian one who was shorter than me. I would say I was the lower end of the average range in South Holland I'd say 186cm is average for Young Dutch people, North Holland has a lot more immigrants (Algerians, Moroccans, Surinamese, Indonesians) which may make the average height lower.
cmillzz said on 6/Sep/19
Everyone ignore @ifkyou, he’s obviously a moron and a dumb troll. He’s posted under many different names on here as well.
Johan 185 cm said on 6/Sep/19
pov said on 4/Sep/19
Also @christian 6”5. I lived in the Nethlerlands for just over a year at 184cm I was below average. Visit and you will see for yourself :)

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I am dutch and can tell you the average isn't over 182 cm. The overall average was documented at almost 181 cm.

I am 185 and get told that I am 188 cm, people boost themselves here as well :)
Johan 185 cm said on 6/Sep/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8"

You're one of the voices of reason on the site, if only more followed your example.



@Grayloth

Thats actually pretty interesting. When I served 20 years ago it was around 6am the measurements were done. I see you're from Sweden, I wonder how many other countries use that system.
Gyro said on 6/Sep/19
@6footTom

I'm in the exact same position as you except in Australia. I'm 6'0.5" and have always been described as tall by people, which baffles me. Although like you, I'm also 85 - 90% taller than everyone in my class atm apart from 2 guys who are in the 6'2 - 6'4 range.

I will say though, that recently when I've seen myself in tall mirrors around my campus, I can see why people might refer to me [as "tall"]. I definitely don't feel like it, as there are way bigger dudes walking around campus everyday, but on your own or around the average guy you probably look lengthier in comparison which just pushes you out of the idea of "average" in people's minds.

I mean heck, my brother is 5'11 flat and he looks tall to me from afar, even though when I put him next to our 5'9 dad he barely looks taller.
Canson said on 5/Sep/19
@Christian: I’ll say this and leave it alone, but I agree to an extent about a permanent ban. I didn’t think a week was a big deal, but I’ve really noticed with some people that they will request or suggest that Rob ban someone else, then when someone requests or suggests the same of them to Rob, they get upset.
Arnold6672 said on 5/Sep/19
@6footTom
Chicago is a multi race city, lot of people coming from other parts. What @ifkyou was saying, is a mostly white campus
PJ Dalton said on 5/Sep/19
Hello -- I have to agree with some of the comments. I believe the boys, men are growing taller in this generation. First all, I know probably 70 or 80 short men, short dads, and each of every one of them, their sons are taller. And overall, I just see more and more 6' teenagers boys and young adults.

My question -- my youngest son, 13, took a nap and when he woke up from his nap, we all noticed, his siblings and myself that he was remarkably taller, like an inch taller. We measured him at almost 5'10". The next day and now a week later, he's measured at 5'9"... so what happened? Why is he shorter. How is it possible that he was literally taller for one day. Any medical explanations?
Greg said on 5/Sep/19
@ifkyou lol you’re trolling Boss, gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8. 7 foot college students, the tallest I have ever seen on campus was maybe a 6’5-6’6 range guy and even that is rare. You’re obviously making this up, I’ve been to a few colleges and guys average about 5’9 in the U.S. I’ve heard stories about colleges in Amsterdam or Balkans where a lot of the guys there are above 6’0, but even in Holland I’m sure you won’t see that many 7 footers, probably more than the U.S.
Greg said on 5/Sep/19
@Canson yeah definitely I agree, it seems not a lot of people know a lot about height changing throughout the day. Hell some people I speak too think you stay the same height throughout the day. Like my one friend claims 5’11 and he looks legit but I wonder if he ever drops below the mark or like how many hours out of bed he got measured after. I think some people just measure at any point throughout the day and claim that or round up/ down. However it seems to have become the norm of guys claiming precise figures they can’t measure or just throwing out random claims like my 5’9 and change friend saying he was measured 5’11 at the doctors im less inclined to believe seeing he never strikes me as above average just average range.
Chris brady said on 5/Sep/19
@ifkyou you sure you are 6-2.75 bro? You should not be feeling towered by a 6-4 guy at that height. 5-11 range with 6-4 I could understand feeling a bit eclipsed. Feeling like people are throwing the word towered around too liberally nowadays.
Bobby 5ft 10in (178cm) said on 5/Sep/19
@6footTom

I'm entering my third year at university right now and from being on campus for so long, I can attest to you that the average height in university is in no way 6'0, let alone 5'11. I would actually say the average height there is a modest 5'9 for men. That doesn't mean there aren't taller guys because I have seen them but choosing to focus on so many people taller than you will skew your perception of what is average height. At 5'10 myself, I am actually one of the taller students walking about the halls and going around and the few people taller than me don't actually tower me either. They are at most 2-3 inches taller. You might say 3 inches is a towering difference but I would beg to differ. Really, a decent enough 5'10 is actually still above average on a university campus, at least in Toronto, where the diversity population is very high. The tallest people on campus tend to be African and European descent people, I'm talking at least 5'9 on average. At the college campuses though, the average is even less. It baffles me.
PJ Dalton said on 5/Sep/19
Hello -- I have to agree with some of the comments. I believe the boys, men are growing taller in this generation. First all, I know probably 70 or 80 short men, short dads, and each of every one of them, their sons are taller. And overall, I just see more and more 6' teenagers boys and young adults.

My question -- my youngest son, 13, took a nap and when he woke up from his nap, we all noticed, his siblings and myself that he was remarkably taller, like an inch taller. We measured him at almost 5'10". The next day and now a week later, he's measured at 5'9"... so what happened? Why is he shorter. How is it possible that he was literally taller for one day. Any medical explanations?
Bego said on 5/Sep/19
@ifkyou Completely normal to see giants like that especially in US where sports are big part of colleges. So like i said what you described is nothing. Tall guys we have arent atheletes at all.
Bego said on 5/Sep/19
@ifkyou For college with 20k students thats nothing my guy. Try a ty avg college in Bosnia with max 1k students where every 5th guy is 190cm or taller, or every 2nd and 3rd guy you come by is 6ft to 6ft1. Now we do have some dwarfs ofc, but we have more taller guys than you can imagine.
Grayloth said on 5/Sep/19
Click Here

Here are statistics from Swedish army recruit between the year 1994 and 2008. The average have gone up by 1 cm in 15 years time.

”Längd” means length in swedish.
Sakz said on 5/Sep/19
@pov That's not the case for me. I'm not that much taller than you and I've been referred to as the tall guy many times. 6'2 is very comfortably tall but in the 6'0 range you're still just comfortably tall I would say. Standing out is a different matter I don't equate that with being tall because they're two different things.

@Greg I'll check that out. A 7 footer would raise eyebrows anywhere because it's giant tall. I mean someone 6'5 or 6'6 who is already very tall would be shorter by like half a foot so that puts it into perspective.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 5/Sep/19
@ifkyou
What does that have anything to do with being anti-American? I'm an American myself, and I know that the younger generation stagnated. Don't take my word for it, check out the stats and data.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 5/Sep/19
@pov
The average self-reported height in Netherlands for 20+ year old men is 180.8cm, which is around 5'11 1/8". Click Here You either lived in a very tall region of Netherlands or your perception is wrong, if you think that the average's 184+.

@Ellis
It depends on the sneakers, since mine range anywhere from 5/8" to 1 3/8", but if you mean the typical 1" sneaker, I'm around 6'6 3/8" and 6'7 1/8" in the morning.

@Greg
But sometimes you gotta avoid the bait. If you feel like someone's provoking you into a heated argument, it's often best to just brush it off. I'm not gonna entirely blame Andrea for our beef. I must take responsibility for my role as well.
6footTom said on 5/Sep/19
@ifkyou

Interesting, I graduated from my undergrad just a few months ago in Chicago. I was constantly referred to as "tall" despite only being 6'0" flat. I was also taller than at least 85% of the people in my major(film production). Now I'm pursuing grad school in LA, and so far not that much has changed. People around here still describe me as tall although I think the average is marginally taller than my university in Chicago. Still, based on my experiences, it's definitely less than 4 out of every 10 people who are taller than 5'11" in universities.
Canson said on 5/Sep/19
Greg said on 4/Sep/19
@Canson exactly everyone’s height loss is different especially the longer someone’s spine the more likely they will lose more throughout the day. I remember Rob saying there could be two guys claiming the same mark one a little above and the other below and their will be a difference between the two ones just rounding up the other down.

Not only that but we could have two people waking up the exact same and hitting different lows. You may have another guy who wakes to 5’11” and hits 5’10” or 5’10 1/8” or something
Bego said on 5/Sep/19
@ifkyou Idk if you are real American or immigrant there but your english isnt 100% for real american so hmm
Bego said on 5/Sep/19
@Ifkyou Alot of US colleges especially high end ones get annualy tons of students from European countries, wether its permament studying or student exchange. Now your observation of son/father and daughter/mother is kinda flawed, just because you have seen dozens examples like you said doesnt mean anything. Nobody is Anti American here, its a clear fact you stopped growing like you used to before world war 2,you grow like militer or so every decade, but thats because your diet is garbage and according ti alots of surveys you people dont seem to be much physically active too, lots of your people live sedentary lifestyle. Compared to even some poorer countries like developing ones you still lag behind alot. What state do you live in?
ifkyou said on 5/Sep/19
Generally speaking, in a typical U.S College/uni/high school:

the tallest male student maybe between 6'9-6'10;

the tallest female student maybe around 6'4.

Of course, many colleges may have taller athletic students may be 7'1 &7'2, even a very few of them have a 7'4 guy on campus. I don't know why people underestimate new generation's height on this thread, may be you are jealous, or may be you are . 6'3-6'5 is still solid tall among youths, but not uncommon anymore.

I did a project about average height before and got information from student health center. My uni has more than 650 undergrads(freshman-senior) out of 11,000 male students.
WHile 600 guys who are taller than 6'3 walk around campus everyday, I don't think it is fair to call 6'3 guy is very tall.
ifkyou said on 5/Sep/19
Generally speaking, in a typical U.S College/uni/high school:

the tallest male student maybe between 6'9-6'10;

the tallest female student maybe around 6'4.

Of course, many colleges may have taller athletic students may be 7'1 &7'2, even a very few of them have a 7'4 guy on campus. I don't know why people underestimate new generation's height on this thread, may be you are jealous, or may be you are . 6'3-6'5 is still solid tall among youths, but not uncommon anymore.

I did a project about average height before and got information from student health center. My uni has more than 650 undergrads(freshman-senior) out of 11,000 male students.
WHile 600 guys who are taller than 6'3 walk around campus everyday, I don't think it is fair to call 6'3 guy is very tall.
ifkyou said on 5/Sep/19
I am a Junior in one U.S. college with almost 20,000 students there.It is said the number of freshmen this semester is over 5,000, I have met a lot of them last week. Many kids arrive at compus with their parents, and most of them are Obviously taller than their old ones(Son is taller than his father or Daughter is taller than her monther).I say maybe 50% freshmen are taller than their parents, 30% freshmen is the same height and 20% is shorter. I don't know why a lot SOB always claim Americans stop growing taller, OK, I don't want to argue that. I know you fking anti-Americans live under the rock and never open eyes to see the new world.


I would say 6-7 boys out of 10 ones are taller than 5'11, but maybe you think I was trolling. So I may say 4-5 in 10 are 5'11 plus.

When I went to Cafe for Lunch, there were over 300 fresh waiting outside for something check in or whatever. I intentionly passed by and walked around them for seeing their height, I am 6'2.75" without shoes. There might be 200 boys and 100 girls, at least 20 boys were tower than me, when I say "tower", it means they must be 6'4 bareboot in night. The tallest boy I met is no way under 6'9. And tons of them between 6'-6'3.No girl was taller than me but I am sure there were about 6 girls arond 6'-6'1.

There is a rumor said my college recruited a 7'1 and a 6'11 freshman for basketball team, I havent met them yet. But if I narrow those 300 new students(90% are Whites) I encountered, 6' is impossible to be considered tall, the start of tall must be 6'2 for guys. Even though I don't see whole 5K new students, but they are generally taller than my year from personal observation.

Thus, even the average height of newest generation for White American is still the same as old ones(around 5'10), the number of taller ones are much more than the 5 years ago.
@Kyle6'3 said on 4/Sep/19
@Canson great poster and helpfull my childish actitud in the last month make us have some problems so I do apologize I dont spect and apologize for u or simpathy just let it you know that I am ashamed for getting were I shouldnt im just a rookie peace.
Greg said on 4/Sep/19
Click Here So you guys can see what I meant 😂. He initially asked me if I was 6’0 and when I said no he was like “well you look 6’0” so assuming he thinks he’s 5’11 he acknowledged that there was an inch between us. I really wish I could measure us and compare he’s probably going to try and say the tape measure and can method isn’t right or something.
Greg said on 4/Sep/19
@Canson exactly everyone’s height loss is different especially the longer someone’s spine the more likely they will lose more throughout the day. I remember Rob saying there could be two guys claiming the same mark one a little above and the other below and their will be a difference between the two ones just rounding up the other down.

@Avi Yeah well I think most people would feel a solid tall at around 6’1/6’2 same for me if I was 2 inches taller I would feel like tall at almost 6’1, I think that would be a great height and same at 6’1 flat. Also to what you said about a lot of 6’1.5-2 guys claiming 6’3 I see it pretty often. I noticed a lot of 6’0 range guys like to even claim 6’1 or 6’2, and 5’11.5 guys claiming 6’1, my one friend just edges me out and he tries to claim he got measured at 6’1 Lel, he often says 6 foot but that’s most likely a morning height or he might be 5’11.75” out of bed because he looks a bit over 5’11 like i’d Say close to Benedict Cumberbatch or Jimmy Fallon 5’11.5 or 5’11 3/8ths at his lowest because he looked a bit taller than my 5’11 friend but he got edged by my 6 foot friend not by a lot by a half inch so he very well maybe be an inch taller than me. Yeah a case of tallitis where you notice guys taller than you 182 will be tallish in most countries with the exception of Amsterdam and Nordic regions. Yeah I think Amsterdams males average 5’11.5-6’0 perhaps. And yeah honestly she was trolling because she was mad on my Facebook status for some reason, it had more of my friends winded up than me! Because they where like wtf “Greg’s not 5’6 he’s 5’11-6’0” even though I’m 5’11 out of bed lol everybody inflates here, plus I have good proportions for my height so I’m often mistaken for taller. Yeah most people aren’t height aware especially women 😂
Greg said on 4/Sep/19
@Andrew V nah not 177 maybe you can make a case for 176 for the youth but even walking around I don’t see many Young American guys close my height, they will be either shorter or taller in some cases.
Greg said on 4/Sep/19
@Christian alright and thats your opinion which is fine but I’m still going to stand by my opinion. I think anybody who purposes starts arguments in hopes to provoke or wind somebody up should be banned for good. Andrea falls under that example of always constantly starting with you me, and Canson Bobby and a few other posters. I’m sure others will agree with me as well.
Greg said on 4/Sep/19
@Sakz well typically in the U.S 6’2 would standout, regardless of what other heights there might be in a crowd. In the Netherlands perhaps you’d need to be like 6’3-6’4 to standout because people are generally taller there, if you get a chance check out the documentary on Youtube of the Dutch Giant who’s supposedly 7’2 I was recently watching it and seemed every other guy who was taking photos of him or walking by him was over 6’0, he’ll it wasn’t even uncommon for 6’5-6’6 guys to approach him or ask to take a photo but of course he stands out because there’s not many 7 footers even in the Netherlands though I think the odds of running into one are higher there than other parts of the world.
Grayloth said on 4/Sep/19
I think you misunderstood me, Rob. What I meant was how much height do I lose by walking compared to when I stand at my tallest. Let's say I am 191 cms tall and want to pass under low roof which is 190 cms. Do I have duck when doing this or will my walking posture make it so that I become shorter compared to when I stand at my tallest. How much shorter will I get?

The reason I am asking this is because in many grocery stores here in Sweden there are tapes with the heights 160, 170, 180 and 190 cms on it as part of signalement for robbers. I asked one guy who worked in the supermarket at which height those tapes were put and he said they put them at the exact height of 180 cms, not taking into account that everyone are wearing shoes that add maybe 2 cms in height. So if I observe people walking in and out of a grocerystore, how accurate will there height be since they are not standing still at there tallest but wearing shoes also?
Editor Rob
When walking, mid-stride could be a moment at which you are over measured height, obviously at full-stride with one leg in front and other behind you are going to be under your measured height.

Some folk have different walking habits, wider strides and varying postures as they walk.
Ellis said on 4/Sep/19
@Christian: What is your height in sneakers? I'm like 6'8.75 earlier in the day, and 6'8 flat at night. The shoes that I wear are an inch btw. I reckon you would come up to almost the top of my head, just below the hairline. My head is 10 inches I think.
Bego said on 4/Sep/19
@ifkyou Every concert like that is here. Completely normal when everyone is 18-40 years old.
pov said on 4/Sep/19
Also @christian 6”5. I lived in the Nethlerlands for just over a year at 184cm I was below average. Visit and you will see for yourself :)
pov said on 4/Sep/19
I’m 6”0.5 and being the sad guy that I am I conducted a little field experiment, I asked my friends, family, and co-workers, and who majority are 5”9-5”11 (but some are shorter and taller than that range) if they consider me “tall”. The majority they would say im “tallish” or “quite tal” but not but not “tall tall”. Which I agree. No one really refers to you as the “tall guy” until you’re 6”2+. I have come to the conclusion that 6”2 is the start of real tall. These people tend to stand out more in crowds, pictures, and face to face.
Sakz said on 4/Sep/19
@Greg It would depend on how tall the people in the crowd are. Let's say they're 5'10 or under I would say at least 6'3 is when you could start to stand out properly because typically 5 inches or more is when the difference becomes quite big and towering for some. However if there were some say 5'9 guys and under in there then 6'2 could definitely stand out.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 4/Sep/19
@Greg
Only trolls and posters who post very offensive or private posts should be banned permanently IMO. Andrea doesn't fall under either of those.

@avi
Average for Netherlands is actually no more than 5'11". That's for men of all ages though. The youth might be near 6'0".
Grayloth said on 3/Sep/19
Rob, how much height do you lose by walking. Does shoe height and loss of height while walking even out each other?

@Johan 185 cm
When I was recruited for military I was measured during the afternoon. It depends on what you start with. Some do the intelligence test first, some do the strength and fitness test first. Some do something else.
Editor Rob
Walking will put stress on your discs, so after a few hours you should be near your low range.

I find if I put a backpack with some messages and wear it for 30 minutes even, that gets me close to my low - the same with workouts or games of sports - these put more strains on the discs and reduces height towards our low, quicker than just standing about.

If you did a fitness test then got measured afterwards you'd probably find you were near to your low.
Greg said on 3/Sep/19
Funny story guys so my friend who's around 5'9.25-5'9.5, 5'9.5 is his best case I think he'd measure under it like 5'9 3/8ths still thinks he's a legit 5'11 so we are on this group chat and he mentioned he saw a 6'0 girl at the store and felt small in comparison to her. Funny enough if he was actually 5'11 or even close you wouldn't feel small compared to a 6'0 person like Im close to 5'11 and I rarely feel small unless they are over 6'5-6'6 or something like that. But anyways he says the girl could have been anywhere from 5'10-6'0 so I am guessing she wasn't even 6'0.. probably Max 5'10 if he thinks he's 5'11 at 5'9 and change, he would be guessing legit 6 footers at like 6'1-2. But to mess with him I claimed to be 5'8 and he was like "you're 5'8"? I was like "yeah 5'7-5'8 on a good day" lol and he was like "no you're 5'11 like me" and I was like " no the doctors measured me at 5'8, basically using the same excuse he was when he said he got measured at 5'11." LOL. But wait it gets better.

So he called our other friend short, who's around Robs height when in reality he's no more than 1.25" of an inch or so taller than him. My other friend who's about Robs height as well maybe a tad higher at 5'8.5" chimed in and said that I said I was a few inches taller than the 5'9 friend when I said no I am only about an inch and change taller, because we made a bet which we have yet to do due to him never leaving his house kind of like stoop kid from Hey Arnold except he never leaves his "stoop" lol. But I bet $100 that I am an inch+ taller which I know I am and my friends not height aware because I asked him how tall these 2 guys we knew where and he guessed both to be 6'0, when ones a legit 5'11 and the others about 5'10. He's stood next to them before and the one even claimed 6'0 and he got suspicous that he was frauding because there wasn't even close to 4 inches between them, he even said " how can you be 6'0 when you're not that much taller than me " and I was like that's because he's around 5'10 not 6'0, and the kid argued with me and said he was 6'0 it's a shame we didn't have a tape with us. It's funny when guys make claims they can't even measure close to.
avi said on 3/Sep/19
@Greg said on 2/Sep/19
Hey Greg

I think 6'2 will not really stick out in a large crowd.

I think a legit 6'3 is borderline very tall because most guys who say 6'3 are 6'2ish some even 6'1.5 (from my experience)

I know for certain if I was just 2 inches taller I wouldn't really stick out in most situations though I would feel solid tall and like I said 6'2 would be the height of choose.

And as for 182 cm guys feeling average I can say being around that area myself it's because we focus on taller people.

Also depends on the area you live and population.

If I walk in a large crowd or go to a concert being 6'0ish isn't going to make you feel tall. Average at best maybe slightly above depending.

I've walked around NYC, London, Warsaw, cities in Florida and that's been my consensus. I been to Germany too but only airport.

Now that's how I feel. You at my height may feel more solid tall.


For Sweden I would agree. 179cm seems about average. That's pretty tall for an average.
US is definitely not 5'10.

It's 5'9 maybe 5'9.25.

I think Netherlands truly has an average close to 6'0 based on stats.

But if these are self reported or measured with shoes it's bs.

And wow. A woman guessed you at 5'6??
That's like a 6'4-6'5 guy being guessed at 6'0.
She has no idea about height.
My ex did guess me at "around 5'8" when I was a good 5'10 and some. But 4 inches is crazy. :)


@Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 2/Sep/19

Sometimes action needs to be taken.
Like I said before all this fighting and name-calling makes the atmosphere of this site very unwelcome.
We can debate in an respectful and artful manner.
Canson said on 3/Sep/19
Greg said on 3/Sep/19
@Zober between 6’3.5-6’3.75 although some people here might say it would be more 6’3.7-6’3.8”ish.

@Greg: you’re right too. Some guys lose more than others. You have some that may lose 3/4” or 7/8 at that size and then some may lose 5/8” or 1/2”. I remember Berta saying he’s Christian’s size at a low 196.5 maybe even and he is only about 197.5-198 at a low. I’d consider 6’2 7/8 textbook honestly if it’s a normal low
Canson said on 3/Sep/19
@Christian: thanks!!! 🙏
Canson said on 3/Sep/19
Johan 185 cm said on 3/Sep/19
KONE said on 2/Sep/19
Rob and celebheights community,
I recently read that the average height for recruits in Austria is exactly 178cm(5'10).
The measurement was taken by the austrian military in 2017. The people measured were between 17-18 (birth year 1999). So taking this in consideration I would guess the average could be in the 179cm range, 180cm at best. The average height of Austria seems to be pretty similiar to the heights in the US and UK. So what do y'all think?

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Measurements done by the military are early morning I always knock off a cm .


@Johan185: I’ve heard that They are early morning too. Once you get to work. But we also had a poster named Blazer who was ex military that mentioned that some PT is done before being measured. Meaning running a couple miles. He said that once the measurements occurred for him he was close to a low but not quite at it. Maybe around 1/8” over which is equivalent to about 5 hours awake. But he said that this was many years ago and that they don’t do this now a days as regularly and I cannot recall what branch of the Military he was in. And I’ve seen different for others
Canson said on 3/Sep/19
Greg said on 2/Sep/19
@Canson No problem man, you know I got you as you’re an original poster here. We missed you. Despite our bouts in the past I’ve still had more consistent respect for you especially compared to Andrea which I don’t have any for. Hopefully we can avoid future conflicts here!

@Greg: I’ve disagreed with people before even here and still been cool at the end of the day and in some cases never had another argument with them. I respect you as a poster very much!
Canson said on 3/Sep/19
@Greg: 🙏 and I appreciate it all!
mrfunnyguy said on 3/Sep/19
@ifkyou I totally agree with you about what you said about height in Sweden. Seems like a lot of people belittle each other, and I don't understand where people get the idea that the average height in Sweden is 5'9, which is totally absolutely absurd. Finally someone who agrees with me.
AndrewV said on 3/Sep/19
@Greg

174-175cm is average for the general male population, not for young American guys in their 20s, who average at 176-177cm.
Jdubbz said on 3/Sep/19
A legit 6’3 would be anywhere from 6’3.75 to 6’4 out of bed. Some guys that height lose a full inch, but most probably lose 2-2.5cm.
Greg said on 3/Sep/19
@Christian I see where you are coming from but I still think Andrea deserves a permanent ban. Along with Arthur and even Ajax but that’s just my opinion of course Rob isn’t actually going to do that lol. Yes I’ve had many arguments here but I’ve never cursed people off more or so used certain remarks that where still deemed at least PG. That argument with Andrea on the Misha Collins page caused Rob to delete some comments, I actually thought he was going to ban us prior but seems like he didn’t.
Greg said on 3/Sep/19
@Andrew V nah i don’t agree with that how can 182 cm guys feel average even if they are on the taller side lol? Seeing average is like 174-175cm, anything over will feel above average 179+ would feel tallish and not true that they wouldn’t be referred to as such I think your chart isn’t accurate.
Greg said on 3/Sep/19
@Zober between 6’3.5-6’3.75 although some people here might say it would be more 6’3.7-6’3.8”ish.
ajax509 said on 3/Sep/19
@Jiggity Of course, I have to disagree! 5ft 8, 5ft 9 at 60%, 65% is nonsense , this would mean average (50%) at 5ft 7. Maybe in Asia!
ajax509 said on 3/Sep/19
@Zober A legit 6ft 3 guy measures 6ft 3.75+ out of bed.
K.A 188 ! said on 3/Sep/19
@ANDREWV

I agree
ifkyou said on 3/Sep/19
@Lell can't you tell many people here just deliberately belittle people's height. You already share the offical data of the average height of Sweden with them, but they still don't believe them. They only believe their own illusion. Like a ID called Ben, he claims he lives in Sweden and even declares the average height of newest generation in Sweden is under 5'9. That is total BS.
Johan 185 cm said on 3/Sep/19
KONE said on 2/Sep/19
Rob and celebheights community,
I recently read that the average height for recruits in Austria is exactly 178cm(5'10).
The measurement was taken by the austrian military in 2017. The people measured were between 17-18 (birth year 1999). So taking this in consideration I would guess the average could be in the 179cm range, 180cm at best. The average height of Austria seems to be pretty similiar to the heights in the US and UK. So what do y'all think?

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Measurements done by the military are early morning I always knock off a cm .
Johan 185 cm said on 3/Sep/19
Zober said on 2/Sep/19
How tall should a legit 6'3" guy be first thing out of bed?

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At the very least 6'3.75"
Sakz said on 3/Sep/19
@Chris Brady Yeah basically looking straight ahead without tilting your eyes and head up or down.
Sakz said on 3/Sep/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8" I've seen them going back and forth (even on this page) and it really is never ending so something had to be done. If it had just been left alone it would have gotten worse. Also this is something that goes back a while if I'm not mistaken so I can completely understand Rob stepping in, because nothing gets solved otherwise. Hopefully they've learnt their lesson because personally I think a week's ban is quite lenient and reasonable.
ifkyou said on 3/Sep/19
@Bego I remember you mentioned a concert activity in you hometown half of year ago, and there are a large number of tall guys were tower over you with 5K population there, even though you are 183-184cm. And you had met many young ladies are same tall as you. And you even mentioned about 5 tallest guys were closed to 6'11?
Canson said on 3/Sep/19
@Zober: 6’3 5/8 or 3/4 probably
Canson said on 3/Sep/19
@KA188: 🙏
Emil said on 3/Sep/19
@Rob

I measure 185.2 out of bed and 183.3 after having been up for 4 hours, and 182.6 at my absolute lowest. What would be my listing on your site?
Editor Rob
It would depend on how you looked either in person or with others to get a guess.

I doubt you'd get underbilled sub 6ft, may manage 6ft 1/4 or 1/2 even.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 3/Sep/19
@Emil
180cm for a young Swedish guy seems right, since average for Sweden's max 5'10" and the young population usually isn't more than an inch taller in a given country.
Greg said on 2/Sep/19
@Sakz Yeah I agree I mean in most places at 6’0 you’d be taller than most guys even a weak 6 footer will be taller than most. But at 6’1 you reach a different level of tall. 6’2+ is standout for me let’s say a decent 6’2.5 will stand out in a crowd of people and very tall could start after 6’3.
Greg said on 2/Sep/19
@Keith 5’10, you’re a legit 5’10 assuming you don’t drop below it at your low or even if you’re 1/4th under I would still consider you a flat 5’10 guy, you’re most likely done growing unless you noticed growth the last year. Very few guys will gain anything in their 20’s if you reach 180cm then you should feel lucky your heights pretty decent though I feel for you as 181-182 is a better range.
Greg said on 2/Sep/19
@Canson No problem man, you know I got you as you’re an original poster here. We missed you. Despite our bouts in the past I’ve still had more consistent respect for you especially compared to Andrea which I don’t have any for. Hopefully we can avoid future conflicts here!
Sakz said on 2/Sep/19
@Lell I see that explains it. The average is higher there than where I live.
ajax509 said on 2/Sep/19
@c-mo To be honest, the survey isn't really trustworthy. It calculates mean height for both genders 50 / 50%, when there are 52% men / 48% women (age group
Zober said on 2/Sep/19
How tall should a legit 6'3" guy be first thing out of bed?
ggangsta said on 2/Sep/19
@ c-mo

Yea this list looks accurate for most of the countries, but for Montenegro it is too low I have to agree with Bego. Been there, average for young people definitely seems higher than this.
AndrewV said on 2/Sep/19
For young guys in America:

Below 160cm: Exceptionally short, you'll seldomly encounter someone shorter than you.
160cm-163cm: Very short, you're generally going to be the shortest guy everywhere you go.
164cm-167cm: The "regular" short range, you'll almost always feel short and be considered a "short guy" by everybody
168cm-170cm: The start of short, you'll feel short most of the time but will still find a good chunk of guys around your height or shorter.
171cm-174cm: Low average, You'll feel below average and sometimes short, but this is still a very common height range.
175cm-178cm: Solid average, very common and unremarkable heights. With few exceptions, you will never feel tall or short and will never be regarded by others as such.
179cm-182cm: High average, you'll feel a bit on the taller side but still average
183cm-185cm: The start of tall, you'll feel tall most of the time but there are some instances where you'll feel just above average.
186cm-189cm: Solid tall, you will virtually always feel tall and be considered "the tall guy" by everybody.
190cm-193cm: Very tall, you're pretty much going to be the tallest guy almost everywhere you go.
Above 193cm: Exceptionally tall, you can go by multiple days without seeing someone taller than you.
Jdubbz said on 2/Sep/19
@Chris Brady: I’m not sure how others do it, but for me eye level is my pupil height when I’m looking completely straight ahead (head not tilted up or down). That’s also the position I use to measure chin level, etc. I have to measure it in front of a mirror, otherwise it can vary by a cm in either direction.
K.A 188 said on 2/Sep/19
@CANSON
Am glad you are back

@GREG i agree with what you said .
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 2/Sep/19
@Greg
I don't believe that Rob should've banned either Canson or Andrea tbh. I know it's Rob's site so he can pretty much do as he pleases, but most posters here, especially if they're long time posters, will have an argument at one point or another. You've had heated arguments with others, just as bad as Canson and Andrea's, but I don't recall Rob ever banning you.
c-mo said on 2/Sep/19
Rob

I made a comment to Greg regarding hulis post to goel where he asked if 5-9 is average wouldnt 5-10 be above average . can you display it please
Editor Rob
If it didn't appear try again
KONE said on 2/Sep/19
Rob and celebheights community,
I recently read that the average height for recruits in Austria is exactly 178cm(5'10).
The measurement was taken by the austrian military in 2017. The people measured were between 17-18 (birth year 1999). So taking this in consideration I would guess the average could be in the 179cm range, 180cm at best. The average height of Austria seems to be pretty similiar to the heights in the US and UK. So what do y'all think?
Editor Rob
It fits in close to UK, so I'd expect the overall Austrian average 2-3cm less than the (likely) near 179cm 20 year old
Lell said on 2/Sep/19
@Sakz

Yup, I would consider 6'1" tallish. Between 183 to 186 cm is kind of a tallish zone and between 187/88 you're tall imo. I live in southern Sweden and I feel average at 179 cm.
Canson said on 2/Sep/19
@Greg: I appreciate your support! It means a lot.
QM6'1QM said on 2/Sep/19
Jiggity said on 1/Sep/19

I consider that's height start to be tall and 6'2.75" like end of the tall range.
Keith 5'10 said on 1/Sep/19
Hi Rob, I'm almost 19 years old and my height is 179 cm out of bed and around 177 cm before bed. My mother is 163 cm and my father is almost 170. Can i reach 181 or 182 cm?
Bego said on 1/Sep/19
@Jiggity Where you from?
Greg said on 1/Sep/19
@K.A188 Totally unfair in my opinion Andrea is a troll and they always have something to say about everything, I think it should have been on Andrea’s end.
c-mo said on 1/Sep/19
Bego said on 1/Sep/19
@c-mo Sounds like bs. Montenegro 178? Not even close.

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why ? too high or too low ?

I do think that most heights are pretty accurate
Sakz said on 1/Sep/19
@Lell So if you consider 6'2 the start of tall would you consider 6'1 tallish? That's interesting. Whereabouts do you live?
Sakz said on 1/Sep/19
@Greg It does depend on perception there was a time when I was probably near 6'0 and didn't feel tall. It's a height where you've just reached tall territory so I can understand people not feeling it. However, not feeling tall doesn't mean you're not it's just how people perceive it. 6'1 is definitely more solid tall though because then you're a comfortable 4 inches above average. Around 6'3 range is when I'd say you're becoming very tall and can start to stand out.
Bwk said on 1/Sep/19
Rob, are medical examinations for height always accurate?
Editor Rob
It could depend if the equipment is up to scratch and the person actually notes down the right reading.

I'd always say if somebody was measuring you at an appointment, have a look yourself at the stadiometer if you can (assuming it's one that doesn't slip down after coming out from underneath it!).
Emil said on 1/Sep/19
@Bego

The most accurate reports to lean against are measurements of military conscripts, since it encompasses virtually all segments of men/women in a given country.

However, I dont think 181.5 cm is too far off as an average for young Swedish men. Might be off by a cm or two but that's about it I'd say
Bego said on 1/Sep/19
@c-mo Sounds like bs. Montenegro 178? Not even close.
Jiggity said on 1/Sep/19
If I could put my height 6'.05 -to sleightly above (5'11/3/4ths at night) into a chart with my observings id say,

I feel taller than 78% of my peers
5-11,5-11'5 should feel 75% taller than most
5-9, 5'10-5 should feel 65-75% taller (upper average)
5-8, 5-9' should feel 60-65% taller (average)
(Most 6'2-6'5 fellows should feel at least mid 80's-90% taller than others imo.)
This is just my observation! Feel free to agree/disagree!
Jiggity said on 1/Sep/19
If I could put my height 6'.05 -to sleightly above (5'11/3/4ths at night) into a chart with my observings id say,

I feel taller than 78% of my peers
5-11,5-11'5 should feel 75% taller than most
5-9, 5'10-5 should feel 65-75% taller (upper average)
5-8, 5-9' should feel 60-65% taller (average)
(Most 6'2-6'5 fellows should feel at least 90% taller than others imo.)
This is just my observation! Feel free to agree/disagree!
Greg said on 31/Aug/19
@Lell that depends on who’s perceiving it if it’s a guy who’s 6’4 he might think 6’2 is very tall but a 6’2 guy with good proportions and a thick sneaker could fool you into thinking he’s taller anyways.

@Nik glad you agree.
Prog King said on 31/Aug/19
@Greg 4 inches over 5'9 average is not very tall, that would be 6 inches at 6'3. 6'1 is undoubtely tall though so its a perfect height. Noticeably taller than the above average 5'11 guys, it is surely a tall height
Chris brady said on 31/Aug/19
When you guys refer to eye level are you guys referring to the highest possible height your pupil can look over without raising your head?
mrfunnyguy said on 31/Aug/19
@Bego Yeah theoretically there could be giants who bring the average up, but it's not very likely since people's heights often follow normal distribution, if it's a large amount of people of course.
Greyloth said on 31/Aug/19
Mrfunnyguy: It’s common to feel shorter than you really are because your eyes are roughly 10 cms below the top of your head.

I don’t see any point in arguing about the average height in Sweden since it has been measured in army recruits the last 100 years and the average hasnt gone up by more then a centimeter since the 1970s. The average height for ethnical swedish men ARE 180-181 cms.

And a tip for you mrfunnyguy. Most supermarkets/grocery stores in Sweden have tapes by the exit to measure the customers. Stand by an exit for a while and observe the customers height and you will notice that most guys are around 180 cm give or take a centimeter.
Jdubbz said on 31/Aug/19
@Lell: I agree 6’2 isn’t very tall, but 195+ and especially 200cm is way too high of a threshold imo. Depending on the location I think 192-194 is a good threshold. Maybe 195 in some of the really tall countries, but definitely not anything above that.
c-mo said on 31/Aug/19
check this german wikipedia page regarding average heights . the stats are for men and women born in 1994 for 2014

Click Here

the section/list on left is the men + women comibned height average . the middle one is for men and the one on right are female heights

calculate the average height for europe if you want . ....it is a solid 5'10
avi said on 31/Aug/19
@Rob

So would someone short like 5'2 taking a picture of someone around 6'0 and someone else 6'2 , potentially overstate the difference in height between the two?
Editor Rob
It can depend how far away the person is (or camera) for how much extra height is gained.
K.A 188 said on 31/Aug/19
@ROB you banned Canson?
Editor Rob
Andrea/Canson either need to ignore each other or refrain from escalating things.
Nik Ashton said on 31/Aug/19
@ Greg - 👌!
Lell said on 31/Aug/19
In my opinion, 6'2" is not very tall. I would just call it tall, maybe the start of it. Someone who is 195 cm+ on the other hand I would call very tall maybe 2 meters.

As I said before, 6 foot is above average but you will not be noticed as the tall guy hanging with average 5'10" guys. But that is my opinion
Bego said on 31/Aug/19
@mrfunnyguy Avg of 181.5 is probably because some measurements were lucky to have some giants that put avg up. That can be the case, if you have plenty of 177cm to 182cm guys avg will be 179 or 180cm depending on wich height was measured more, avg wont be 180cm and will be 182cm if there are some over 190cm guys there which will add 1 to 3cm to avg depending on how much they measured. This is why i prefer to see what i see not what was reported. Avg might be 175cm but when theres every 5th guy around who is 190cm and im 184cm then in my head i dont feel tall.
Greg said on 30/Aug/19
@c-mo Connor says he’s never coming back to the website despite the Ban. I think he’s bluffing lol he’s said that before he might be back at some point. Not sure though. His case I think it was fairly placed, although I don’t agree with Cansons Ban I think that was unjust but unfortunately our opinions don’t matter here we aren’t the site master so I’m guessing Rob didn’t want to deal with it fair enough because it’s his rules not ours.
Greg said on 30/Aug/19
@mrfunnyguy Okay now I see you’re trolling, the average in the US is 5’9 if that so if a guys 6’1 they are 4 inches above the average that’s very tall, people out here saying 6 isn’t tall like it is. Most of these people who are a certain height and claim to not feel tall or whatever are probably not the height they claim or are obviously trolling a legit 6’1 is taller than people think and with the right proportions you would look taller being 6’2 in shoes is very tall to me.👌
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 30/Aug/19
@Ellis
It also depends on the thickness of the eyebrows. You can have a 10" head and still have an eyebrow level of 3.5" if you have thin ones. I have a 9.75" head but my eyebrow level's 3.75" since mine are on the thicker side.
Chris brady said on 30/Aug/19
Guys I am trying to be replicate the alternate method that rob used by building a stadiometer of sorts to get my first true measurement since injury. I was going to put some big books and cds on a 67 inch dresser. How do I make sure the piece of wood I am standing under is straight and not dipping or rising?
Editor Rob
If you don't have a spirit level, then sometimes using our eyes can determine if an object has a tilt, though it might be hard for people to notice small tilts.

If you only use a few objects on top of bigger ones (like say a solid plastic box and then books) that might help?
Sakz said on 30/Aug/19
@Mark O' Connor In Italy you're definitely tall so I'm not surprised you're taller than a lot of people you see.
Greg said on 30/Aug/19
@Jdubbz I just don’t see the point in that, I get it some guys want to be imposing or look taller but if you’re wearing anything more than like a 2 inch lift and especially at that height where you are already stand out tall why would you want to even more? That’s just absurd nobody I know in real life at least not in my friend group wears lifts.
Greg said on 30/Aug/19
@Lell not saying I don’t believe you on the fact the source exists, however I don’t believe the source, 181.5 cm for average seems way too high and would more likely be somewhere like Denmark or Amsterdam/Dinarc Alps. I think that the average young Swedish man might be anywhere between 177-179. That would sound more accurate to me but who knows.
mrfunnyguy said on 30/Aug/19
@Greg By the way, even if the average in Sweden really is 178-179cm, which I find totally absurd, 6'2 still can't really be called "very tall". I think almost no one would call 6'1 very tall in the US, where the average height is at least an inch shorter than Sweden.
Ellis said on 30/Aug/19
@Rob: True, my eye level appears slightly below the lips, which if I'm correct if my eye level is on level with the lips that is a 3 inch difference. I would reckon it was a 3.5 inch difference. Then again, the person taking the picture is much shorter, keep in mind that I'm extremely tall, it's really hard to find someone to take a great picture. My eye level was literally just below the lips, like I'd say half an inch, no more, the picture makes it look like my eyes are on level, but I can tell by giving a firm look at the photo, that is not the case.
Editor Rob
It could be around 3.5 inches then.
Bobby123 said on 30/Aug/19
Rob, i measured my height 16 hours after bed and it was 183.3cm. What should I claim in cm/feet?
Editor Rob
You're a solid 6ft range...'just over 6ft'
c-mo said on 30/Aug/19
@Rob

did you ban connor ? if yes please unban him because I dont mind that he insulted me . if you ban him because of me I will feel guilty . give him another chance please
Editor Rob
He was given a time out till 1st September.
Mark O' Connor said on 30/Aug/19
@ajax509 I live in Italy, yes I measure 184 cm in the evening, but I feel like I'm taller than 90% of people, so I feel solid tall, but maybe is just my perception
Lell said on 30/Aug/19
There is also a PDF-file on 18 year old Swedish recruits and the 1998 average was 179.8 cm tall, which is around 180 cm. And it says in the same documents that most people were in the 178-183 cm range. I don't know how to link it here but another user did that some time ago.
Lell said on 30/Aug/19
@Greg

I dunno dude but here is my source for the 181.5 cm measurement.

Click Here

Scroll down to Sweden and it says 181.5 cm measured 2008 ages 20-29 years old.
Sakz said on 30/Aug/19
@Mark O' Connor Depends where you live but in a lot of places that'd be in the tall range.
ajax509 said on 30/Aug/19
You'd stand 184cm in the afternoon so more in the tallish range (at least for younger generation).
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Mark O' Connor said on 29/Aug/19
I was measured 185 cm 1 hour after bed is this tall or just above average?
mrfunnyguy said on 30/Aug/19
@Greg I guess I could be wrong about what I think, but the average is really 181.5cm in Sweden, you can look it up.
Jdubbz said on 30/Aug/19
@Greg: Some already tall guys are obsessed with being taller. I know this guy who is very similar to me in height (maybe a quarter inch or cm taller than me barefoot), but he wears lifts to look like a barefoot 6'7-6'8 when he's in public. A 6'2 guy wearing lifts to be 6'6 makes no sense to me. I can't imagine what kind of damage that thick of a lift would do to the feet over time.
Jdubbz said on 30/Aug/19
@Mark O' Connor: Somewhere in the middle imo (I'd say tallish) but many here will say tall.
Ellis said on 29/Aug/19
@Rob: Hey Rob, if I come up to a guys eye brow, like not above not below, what would the height difference be? Let's say we are talking about a really tall guy, like a 10 plus inch head, would that affect it?
Editor Rob
You might be 4 inches or so smaller, but always remember it depends on the height of the camera.

You could stand beside a taller person and the camera makes the top of your head appear at their eyeline, when in reality it's at the eyebrows.
Nik Ashton said on 29/Aug/19
@ Mark O’ Connor - Tall!
Greg said on 29/Aug/19
@Christian I thought it was, unless I am mistaken? I don’t see too many people with V in their username here but you know which guy I’m talking about he says he makes a custom lift and shoe to appear 6’6 to people. Now that’s just absurd.

@mrfunnyguy lol your username is accurate to that statement, the average is not 181.5cm wtf? That would be absurd it’s no more than 178ish if the average in Sweden was as high as Netherlands then I would be shocked at 6’1 you should feel tall, Bens friend is 6’2 and he’s always referred to as very tall. I don’t agree with that I’ve been to Sweden and felt above average there at 179 lol.
Greg said on 29/Aug/19
@Bego The average in Sweden isn’t 180cm it’s more like 179cm but truthfully it’s probably bang on 178cm Slovenians are generally taller.
Bego said on 29/Aug/19
@Lell Maybe thats your region? 6ft is definitely not avg in Sweden at max 180cm. I have seen plenty of your people here and while some were taller alot of them were shorter than me. The best i can compare Swedes with is Slovenians for example. I have never been to Sweden so i cant tell anything but just because you see some taller guys around doesnt mean anything. I have seen in Turkey plenty of taller man and avg is 175cm apparently.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 29/Aug/19
@Greg
Isn't RobV the one who's 6'2.5" and brags about wearing thick lifts and elevators? Or is RobV and AndrewV the same person?
mrfunnyguy said on 29/Aug/19
@Greg I live in Sweden and definitely don't think the average height for young guys is shorter than the official average of 181.5cm. I'm 6'1 and sometimes feel below average. When I walk around in a university where there a lot of young people, the most common height I see in guys is without any doubt around 6'1-6'3.
Sakz said on 29/Aug/19
@Greg Right ok haha yeah she can't have been serious unless she was just pure deluded.
Sakz said on 29/Aug/19
@avi Yep I was exactly the same when I was younger. I was often described as tall but never really felt it because of the false expectation that I had to tower people, and because I didn't pay attention to height. It wasn't until I became more height aware and better understood the concept of being tall that I realised how tall I am. Lol seeing myself in the mirror next to other people did actually help because it gives perspective. The average person (5'9 where I live) reaches right around my eyebrows so while I won't quite tower them, I'll know I'm comfortably taller.
Mark O' Connor said on 29/Aug/19
I was measured 185 cm 1 hour after bed is this tall or just above average?
Lell said on 28/Aug/19
@Greg

Not necessarily in Sweden as a whole but at my school I do feel slightly below. Haven't measured in a long time so not sure if I've gotten taller or not, but last time I checked I was a bit over 179 cm. According to Wikipedia, the average for guys 20-29 is 181.5 while for all ages it is 179 cm.

According to my observations of my surroundings (note: MY surroundings, not the whole country)
I'd say that the average is:

Around 5'10" for all males

Hovering around 6'0" for young people 17-25.

So basically I'm quite average, but you will sometimes see girls that are taller than you just so you know. I see lots of them in the food court.

So you feel more on the tallish/tall side in the US? That's quite cool, my friend who was 177 cm at the time he visited the US said that everybody was shorter, maximum his height. Does that sound true to you?
Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 28/Aug/19
@Rob
Do you think that the younger generation have stagnated when it comes to height? I don't really see young people being taller than middle aged people, at least not in the West and developed countries. I only see the youth getting taller in developing countries, due to improved nutrition and healthcare.
Editor Rob
In some countries it's still increasing, but in America, from the stats it definitely seems to have plateaued.
Greg said on 27/Aug/19
@Goel175cm so assuming 5’9 is the average how is 5’10 average then wouldn’t that be above average?
Greg said on 27/Aug/19
@cmillzz let’s also not forget you’re speaking with a guy who’s apparently 6’2.5” and wears lifts+custom elevators to reach 6’6, like why he would need to do this, leaves me just as confused as the next person. If I was 6’2 I would never even care about wearing any height increasing footwear.
Greg said on 27/Aug/19
@Sakz hahah yeah I was taller than her and she claimed 5’7 I guess she was 5’7 more or less, I was basically comfortably taller and she was in regular footwear so maybe I had a footwear advantage. I think she was just trying to make that statement out of sheer pettyness and immaturity lol because we fell out. But she commented on my Facebook status saying I’m 5’6 and my friends and I all had a good laugh we lit her up in the comments. My eye level is 5’6 range so there’s no way unless I was an alien or something but who knows 👽.
avi said on 27/Aug/19
@Lell said on 25/Aug/19

Well it's not unusual for sons to be shorter than father...

In my case my dad was peak 5'9. My mom 5'1-5'2 area I'm a weak 6'0. My sister 5'3.5.
My dad's father was weak 5'11ish (5'10.5 most likely based on my grandmother's analysis) . My dad's mother was 5'2.

My maternal uncle is 5'9 maybe peak 5'9.25, his father (my grandfather) peak 5'7 range.
The mom (my grandmother) peak strong 5'2 range.

A friend I had was 5'10 tops and his dad was 6'1.5 area maybe almost 6'2 when young. His mom maybe 5'4ish.

Another friend is 5'9.5ish and father weak 5'8. Mother 5'3.5 maybe.

I know 2 brothers from high school who had a 6'5 father and mother maybe 5'7ish and the elder brother was 6'1ish
Younger was 6'6ish.

Look at some celebrities out there too however remember with these people they are more likely to reach full potential due to their wealth and higher living standard.


@Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 25/Aug/19

I have been noticing that as well. Sometimes it seems younger generation is so tall with 6'0-6'2 being very common, but then I see a bunch of college aged kids 5'4-5'7. I start to think twice.

I do think there are a bit more 6'0+ in younger generation due to the diet of mother during prenatal care and throughout childhood.

All this stuff in the food nowadays definitely is making kids bigger.
But it's not like 5'8 kids are becoming 6'3 it's more like a child who is 6'2 may get 6'4-6'5 if pushed.
If you look at some tribes in Africa where there are cases of malnutrition and these people still grow tall but maybe would be taller in Western world.


@Sakz said on 26/Aug/19

I agree.
It's all how you feel. There are days I feel tall. Days i feel a bit above average and days I feel barely average.

I do look for tall people so if you concentrate on them it can cause a false perception.

I must say that 6'0 really isn't that tall though.

When you say:
"and at 6'0 you're not going to tower people who are average height."

That is very true. That is why I think I feel average only a lot of times.
I have this false expectation that at 6'0 I should be solidly taller than most people. That's just not true.

6'0 really only towers guys 5'7ish and under.
Average guys will pretty much be over your eyebrows and in your mid forehead so won't feel that much bigger than them

A lot of times when i compare height I'm in mid stride as I'm walking so maybe my posture is off.
I wonder if I was to look in the mirror and stand decent if I would be taller than those I feel are same or slightly taller than me?
Am I underestimating how tall I really am?
But I doubt I can get my co workers to agree to stand in front of the restroom mirror so I can compare height! :)
K.A 188 said on 27/Aug/19
@LUCA

There was a picture of Mario with Pogba who we all know is a solid 6ft3 191cm and Balotelli was noticeably 5cm shorter look it up on google image.... And they were both wearing same shoes and outfit.
But to be honest he does give a 6ft2ish impression but I still think he is probably 186-187 range barefoot maybe at most he is 189 out of bed and 187 at low barefoot but again the picture with Pogba really clears away any chance of Mario being over 6ft2.
Bobby 5'10 (178cm) said on 27/Aug/19
@ajax509

That video is very telling about why he's so delusional about height and unit conversions. He let slip that he was like 5'8-5'9 before, so probably would be barely taller than Rob by a 1/4 of an inch, maybe 1/2 of an inch. Now he's saying claiming to be 6'4 which is laughable. Even when I used to claim to be taller, due to never measuring myself and just guessing, I knew I had to be around the 5'11 area which to be fair, 5'10 is close to 5'11. So, anyway, Bartolongsleeve may not be the perfect specimen, but he is an exotic one.
AndrewV said on 27/Aug/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8"
Among young people of all ethnic backgrounds, 184cm is legit tall imo. However, if we narrow it down to young white guys it’s more on the borderline and 6’1”/185cm would be the start of legit tall. Also, you’re correct that Zoomers aren’t any taller than previous generations. Height has stagnated in the US since the 70s and the CDC data sets back this up.

@Goel175cm

I’d say you’re right, 5’9.5” is average with 6’0” and 5’7” being the start of tall and short, respectively. For white guys though I’d add 1-2cm to each category.
Emil said on 27/Aug/19
@ajax509

That's got to be the most inaccurate method I've ever seen. Pretty sure he over measured himself by a few centimeters
K.A 188 said on 27/Aug/19
@DOM 184CM

I said 182 is the beginning of tall because even at that height with the right proportions you will often give a tall impression especially if you are slim and broad shouldered.
Ofcourse is not a "towering" height but it is still tall...
The mistake people make is everybody this days is so desperate and obsessed with perfection.. .. I mean the most important thing for a MAN is to atleast be taller than 90% of WOMEN ,stop comparing yourself with other guys because no matter how tall or big you are, you will always see someone who is taller.
grizz said on 27/Aug/19
@Rob, I hope the photo is visible to you Click Here How tall is the woman? Guy is 190 cm tall.
Thanks in advance!

In regards to the discussion "is 6' tall or average". I went to a night club in Zagreb (Croatia), at 6' I felt above average and didn't feel towered by anyone. OK, I'm lying a bit, there were two people- one a strong 6'3 240 dude and another 6'4 260 lbs dude. However, these guys were bouncers so...
Editor Rob
If she was under 5ft 10 I'd be surprised
Greg said on 26/Aug/19
@Lell yeah I think we are, you feel below average in Sweden? 181cm can’t be average there that’s a bit above. I think most surveys have Sweden’s male average between 5’10-5’10.5 which is around an inch higher than U.S male average. I was around 5’9 range in Highschool and felt comfortably average if not a little over it but when I grew to my current height I started to feel comfortably above average and tallish range. I think most measurements/surveys are over exaggerated on and include shoes+morning height if not both or people just adding an inch or two otherwise. Because people say that 5’10 is the male average in America and I assure you it’s not if you’re a legit strong 5’10 you’re taller than most guys you come across. Like 60th range percentile.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 26/Aug/19
@Andrew
Personally I don't really get into the Standard Deviation stuff. I care more about percentiles.
Sakz said on 26/Aug/19
@AndrewV That's spot on. I also had the same experience as you in regards to not feeling tall when I was younger.
Greg said on 26/Aug/19
@Lell well I ended up my dads height more or less and my mom was 5’3 peak. However I know someone with 5’5 and 5’9 parents and they are 6’3 range so not sure where the height came from maybe from a grandfather or uncle. I know a kid who’s 6’4 but his dad was well over 6’0 the mom might have been tall for a lady as well. And I knew a few cases of guys reaching over 6’0 with shorter parents sometimes people win the genetic lottery as I say.
Chris brady said on 26/Aug/19
@ importer have you ever been six feet before bed? Is the highest part of your eyelid 5-7.4 or is that the middle of your eye height?
Public Enemy said on 26/Aug/19
Editor Rob: sometimes on the forum I read ‘ he / she would probably ‘measure taller’ as opposed to normal standing posture. Can these differences be significant and perceptual in nature?
Editor Rob
Some people have standing posture that is poorer than others. They may have more in the tank, when stepping up to the stadiometer for a measurement.

You know a guy like Tom Cruise has nothing in the tank, because he generally has a standing/posing posture near measured height.
Sakz said on 26/Aug/19
@Lell I can give you my family's example as my parents have a big difference in height. My mum is around 5'0 and my dad is 5'11, with me ending up around 6'1 and my brother around 5'6. I have 2 sisters one is 5'6 and the other around 5'4 so it's quite a mix. Apart from me everyone else is pretty much in the middle of my parents' height.
Bego said on 26/Aug/19
I keep seeing tourists from central and north Europe, i edged out and towered most of them
Sakz said on 26/Aug/19
@ajax509 Yeah that's usually how conclusions are drawn as to whether a height is tall. Percentile wise 6'0 is tall, but whether someone feels it is a different matter.
Sakz said on 26/Aug/19
@Jiggity 6'0-6'2 is a regular tall range. After that you can argue it becomes into the very tall range.
Sakz said on 26/Aug/19
@Greg Wow 5'6 at your height? Did a woman guess you at that?
cmillzz said on 26/Aug/19
@AndrewV
5’11 is further from average than 5’8, so I’m not sure why you include 5’11 in the average range but not 5’8, and why you’re also putting 5’9 in the lower end of average when it’s pretty much solid average? I consider anything within a half standard deviation from normal as “average”. 5’8 is 0.4 SDs from average and 5’11 is 0.6 SDs from average. So technically, 5’11 may be barely out of the average range, but 5’8 still firmly in it.


Click Here


And this is of course assuming the average really is as high as 5’9.3 though.
Goel175cm said on 26/Aug/19
@ Andrew V
The average height of youngsters(18-35) is 176.5cm.
Since,The measurements on were taken at mid afternoon so the average might be 176cm at night.
so is this height chart okay?
166-169cm- regular short
170-171cm- shortish
172-173cm- low average
174-178cm- average
179-180cm- high average
181-182cm- tallish
183-186cm- regular tall
The above chart is based on night heights.
mrfunnyguy said on 26/Aug/19
@Lell My parents have a big difference in height I would say. My mom is around 163-164cm, and my dad is around 188-189cm. I ended up around 185-186cm. People say it's common for sons to end up shorter than their dads, but in my experience it happens but is very uncommon.
Luca said on 26/Aug/19
@K.A.188 So you think he is shorter than us? Cause he s usually listed at our height at 188-189 cm
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 25/Aug/19
@Andrew
I guess 6'0.5" would be the start of tall if you're around young people then. To be honest though, I don't really see the younger generation getting any taller. They seem to be the same as middle aged (35-50) people.
Greg said on 25/Aug/19
@c-mo there’s nothing wrong with saying you wish you where a little taller I am sure most of us fall in the same boat, same with wishing you where a little shorter as well. This is a height forum after all and that doesn’t make us insecure if we say that. With that being said I agree a lot of times you can feel pretty solid average at your height. Even at my height I’ll usually be one of the tallest if not the tallest person in line. I agree that 178-180cm at night is a good height and often I’ll even get mistaken for taller like 5’11-6’0 on average. I’ve even gotten guessed taller/shorter so it depends on posture footwear and stuff.
Greg said on 25/Aug/19
@Christian well I got what you meant, and you’re not understanding what I was trying to say. I was saying you’re free to post anything here as you wish however it should somehow relate to height as Robs mentioned previously off topic comments are even deleted at time or not approved.
Lell said on 25/Aug/19
@Greg I think I'm exactly your height but at school most guys are slightly taller than me (6 foot range), so I wouldn't see myself as tallish, more like 45 percentile. When I was 177, I asked my nurse if I was below average and she said yes as the average was measured 181.5 cm for young guys aged 20-29 in Sweden.

In a tourist crowd, I'm definitely tallish/tall.
ajax509 said on 25/Aug/19
Alternative way of measuring height:
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AndrewV said on 25/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm

Being "tall" isn't really a matter of how much you tower over people so much as how many people are shorter than you. 183cm in the US would be in the 85th percentile of height (81st percentile for men under 50) so it's an objectively tall height since it's around 1 SD from average. You could make the case that a flat 6' can often feel only tallish or above average around young whites (like 75th percentile), but it is certainly on the taller side.

I'm basically your height and didn't feel tall either when I was younger. However, people started to regularly refer to me as "tall" or "kinda tall" and I began noticing that I was usually one of the tallest (if not the tallest) guys in most settings, so my perspective changed a bit.
AndrewV said on 25/Aug/19
@Dom184

6'0" is considered tall in the grand scheme of things but of course it's only 2-3 inches above the mean, so you're not exactly towering all the average 5'9-5'11" guys. I dare say even 6'2" really isn't enough to "tower" most people. Two standard deviations (~98th percentile) would be the start of very tall which is about 6'3" (6'4" if only counting young white men) in America. The tallest guys I see in class or at a food hall are generally around 6'3", anything over is pretty uncommon.
Lell said on 25/Aug/19
Hello everybody, what is your experience with parents whose heights have a big difference between each other? What heights did the kids end up?

My half-sister is 5'1" and her husband is about 6'2" (he said that he was 6'4" when young). I joked that if they would have a child he'd end up average, but their almost 9 month son is 99th percentile, everyone thinks he's older and he is bigger than his dad was at the same age. I calculated what height he'd be at the same percentile as an adult and I got between 192 and 194 cm.

My sister is short, but my mom says that her dad was tall at 187 cm, but she inherited her height from her paternal grandmother.

What is your experience of this? Would gladly like a response.
Canson said on 25/Aug/19
@Myself: I guess it varies from one person to the next. 196 probably wouldn’t be that bad at a low but 198 is steep to me. That makes you pending shoes 200-201 or even 201-202 in other shoes. I say steep because of a doorway in most places only being around 203cm.
K.A 188 said on 25/Aug/19
@LUCA
To be fair with Balotelli, he always looks solid tall he is probably between 6t1-6ft2, around 186.7
I remember seeing Mario close to 188 Chiellini and they looked almost similar.
Between I wonder why @ ROB has not given him a page yet?
Importer said on 25/Aug/19
@Chris Brady close to 6ft. I’m 182-183cm rather than 183-184cm.
puppy bobo said on 25/Aug/19
@ajax509
yeah i was a bit mistaken about the inches part, but where I live we usually use metric system and also round up or down, so in many people's minds 5'11 = 180cm, 6'=183cm, 6'1= 185cm. but strictly speaking they are all inches apart.

percentile thing still makes sense tho. 67th percentile simply means 67th out of 100 people. so ofc there's a lot more bodies in between 67th and 81st than 81st and 88th.
Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@Canson sometimes it’s fun to mess with Morons on here, I don’t take offense just merely laugh as it’s good entertainment. Playful banter if you will 😂. But Ajax thinks he’s changing history and making a name for himself so if he would like to be the laughing stock of celeb heights he can be my guest.
Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@Jiggity you deserve a cookie because you got the right idea. 6’0 is tall I would say 5’10.5-5’11 is tallish and anything over 5’11.5 is getting into the tall range. But a legit tall is after 6’1+ these people have a skewed view based on perception it seems.
Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@cmillzz Agreed and then these news might make you happy then Robs smited Angry angry Connor down with his golden stadiometer and this is a prime example why you should not mess with Rob Paul 👹🔥.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 24/Aug/19
@Greg
You're not understanding my point. My point is that 1A has nothing to do with Celebheights. 1A means that you have complete freedom of speech without getting punished or censored for it, but that only applies to government sectors.
ajax509 said on 24/Aug/19
Once you're heading from an average to a tallish height you'll recognize a bigger jump in the percentiles than from tallish to tall or, at times, very tall. There are simply far more men in the medium range. By this theory, 6 feet are definitly a tall height.

@puppy bobo It was not a stupid comment, I have to correct that, in case the first logical explanation for the classification "tall" on celebheights. 👍
Sakz said on 24/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm I think you're confusing tall and very tall. 6'0 isn't solid tall so that could explain why you don't feel and consider yourself tall. Perception has a lot to do with it as well as the people around you.
Sakz said on 24/Aug/19
@Paul 97 I would say 4 inches. If the average is 5'9 and you're 6'1, you'll feel solid tall without standing out as an example.
Nik said on 24/Aug/19
@ K.A 188 ! - I agree!
Jdubbz said on 24/Aug/19
@cmillzz: How tall are you again? I remember you saying either 185cm or 6’1 flat, correct me if I’m wrong.
Jdubbz said on 24/Aug/19
@cmillzz: according to Rob (on Rob’s page) he does appear to be under some sort of temp ban until September 1st.
c-mo said on 24/Aug/19
@cmillz

I am not insecure at all about my height . I dont know why you think that . only because I wish I was a little taller it doesnt mean that I am insecure . we are just talking about height thats what we are here for and I am just talking about height like all of you .

anyway ...

I just came back from the grocery store and I was spending a long time in the store because I was unsure what to buy etc. so I took my time (I also find grocery stores relaxing) . and while I was there I compared my height with other men . I felt very solid heightwise and a lot of men were shorter than me .but many of them were not germans but from countries with shorter people . however many germans (and other europeans) were also around my height and some were also a little shorter . and of course there were also a good amount of tall guys around too

there was a guy where I thought he had the perfect height or at least almost perfect . I compared myself to him and he was only a little taller :D he was probably 179cm at night or something MAYBE 180cm but defintiely not higher than 181cm that I am sure of . his height looked very aesthetic to me which made me also feel even better about my own height since I am only a little shorter than him


so no I really am not insecure . I just like to talk about height and I am a very analytic person . and I wish I was a little taller but that is normal
Bobby 5ft 10in said on 24/Aug/19
@Jdubbz

Yeah, I think you nailed it. A good 6'1.25 at a low or even at midday is a nice height to be. I'd love to be that tall myself.
Canson said on 24/Aug/19
@Cmillz: he got one this time
c-mo said on 24/Aug/19
@ K.A 188 !

why ? what did I do ? I am not insecure . where did you get this from ? this is nothing but projection from your side . what exactly have I been insecure about ? I said I like my height but I wish I was a few cm taller which is normal and has nothing to do with being insecure . I also didnt insult any member here and even apologoized if I came of as offensive because that is not my intention . so I dont know what you are talking about but I would like you to explain

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@Goel175cm

bro I know but I am living in central europe so I take that as a reference point .

also turkey and iran are not the only countries in west asia . azerbaijan , georgia, armenia , lebanon etc. are also west asian countries and they also have a similar average as turkey I think so I would be a bit above average for west asia overall yes . I dont count southwest asia (saudi arabia , yemen etc.) because they are different from us northern west asian people ethnically and they are also a lot shorter than us

but yeah I live in germany so I compare myself with european men and I am not short with them either but the average height for a young european man is rather around 178cm (evening) maybe even 179cm . so I am still in the "average range" but a little below the average . which is nothing bad ...I feel decent at my height even here . but I wish I was 180 - 184

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@Johan . I will answer you later mate
Nik Ashton said on 24/Aug/19
@ pov - What country are you from?
cmillzz said on 24/Aug/19
@C-mo
The only person who was actually insulting you was Connor. He was out of line and probably should get at least a temporary ban. Other than him though, I don’t see how anyone else is trying to belittle you or put you down. You kinda do seem insecure about your height though, which I don’t really understand.
Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@Ajax as soon as I joined these forums now you on the other hand unfortunately can’t say the same. Legend says Glenn visited Germany before and met with you... he said you weren’t much over 5’10 which would have been true if Glenn was really 5’8 but seeing hes 5’6 5/8ths and shrinking you wouldn’t be much over 5’9 🥴 bad news mate. Get them platform shoes with lifts 👍.
Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@Pov agreed but disagreed because although an inch or two isn’t much, a 6’0.5 guy Is tall you’re a a decent 6’1 in shoes and you’re telling me no one calls you tall? either you’re not really 6’0.5 or live in the Netherlands. And even then you would be above average lol.
Greg said on 24/Aug/19
@cmillzz Right well how tall are you then? And I’ve been referred to so 5’6 and 6’2 before so idc 🤷🏻‍♂️😂 doesn’t bother me man.
Dom 184cm said on 23/Aug/19
@K.A 188 !

182 is the start of tall? What?

At a little over 6'0 barefoot in the evening, and just under 6'1 barefoot in the morning, I don't feel tall at all.

@Greg

It's real rich when guys who probably aren't even 180 cm in the morning come in and try to invalidate other people's experiences. You say I'm either a liar or that I can't measure right? Yet my 6'0 barefoot was done at the doctors office?

Here's the point myself and other 6 foot guys have been trying to say:

There's a BIG difference between edging a guy out by 2 or 3 inches and completely showing him up by 5 or 6 inches.

The former can be done by a 6'0 guy. I can do the former. The latter, only 6'2+ guys can get away with that. I can't do the latter.

It's not my intention on arguing with you or anybody but you're the only person in this entire forum who accused me of being a liar. Everyone else listened and gave me their thoughts which I took in stride.
AndrewV said on 23/Aug/19
A solid 6'0" can be best described as the start of tall, at least in the US. Whether or not you feel solidly tall at 183cm-184cm depends on the demographic you're around. Walking around a grocery store or cityscape among guys of all ages and backgrounds, 6' is solidly tall at the 85th-90th percentile. However, around young white and black men at my school I feel more tallish than anything else, maybe 75th-80th percentile. I can feel legit tall a lot of the time, but there are many instances where I see a good chunk of white and black guys my height or taller. Around the latter demographic, I'd say a solid 6'1" would be the start of legit tall, at that height you'd feel tall almost all of the time.

CDC stats back this up, the American general male average is 5'9", 5'9.5" for ages 20-29 of all races, and a solid 5'10" for white and black men in their 20s and 30s.
Jdubbz said on 23/Aug/19
@paul97:

To feel tall but not stand out too much, I’d say the ideal height is around 186cm. So 3-4” above average.
Jdubbz said on 23/Aug/19
@paul97:

To feel tall but not stand out too much, I’d say the ideal height is around 186cm.
Jdubbz said on 23/Aug/19
@Ellis: yeah my mom is 5’2-5’3 so a good 15” shorter than me. She wasn’t stepping on a stool or anything and used a horizontal softcover book. Definitely possible she misread the mark or got the angle wrong. I did have an endocrinologist consultation earlier this month (thyroid issues) and an approx 6’0 male nurse measured me at 198cm during an early afternoon appointment. I’d trust the measurement done by a 6’0 guy with a stadiometer over one done by a 5’2.5 woman with a soft book, plus it’s more in line with my actual home measurements. But yea I’m never letting my folks measure me again 😅
Jiggity said on 23/Aug/19
@pov That's funny I'm 6' throughout the day and most people call me tall. I don't feel short at all, and many people would consider 6'-6'2 a tall height. Only time I feel short is when I play men's league with my friends who are between 6'4-6'8. I'd even consider 5'11 as somewhat tall.
Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Ajax509: But i have to respect Greg and Bobby’s opinions as they are entitled to them. They may feel strongly about certain things due to some of the comments being made around them on this page though. I also respect yours
Myself said on 23/Aug/19
@Canson
Yeah I agree that it may draw unwanted attention...i still have the thought that between 196-198 would be ideal for me. But there's no real point in thinking about it since i'm probably 100% done growing now. I'd like to gain another random 1/8" though...just the last hope left. I'm doing some lower body and spinal stretches lately; maybe it could slightly straighten my lumbar scoliosis...I believe that if I didn't have it I would've been at least 193+ cm at the lowest (maybe up to 1 cm gain, but idk). It's not a very big curve (nobody notices it), but it's still there, and it makes my hips slightly uneven.
Luca said on 23/Aug/19
@K.A.188 As I told you some time ago, I am exactly 1 cm taller than u... Since I'm Italian too, and I noticed that you had the same curiosity, what's your guess on Mario balotelli?Up to you what's his height in relation to ours?
Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Christian: I think when I had longer hair it did. I only figured it out because I grew it out recently before cutting again and same thing.
Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Greg: unfortunately there are some here too that can say anything and get away with it.
ajax509 said on 23/Aug/19
178cm average
184-186 tallish
= near 2.5 inches
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Paul97 said on 22/Aug/19
What would you guys say was, in terms of the number of inches above average, the ideal height for feeling tall but at the same time not too tall or standing out too much?
ajax509 said on 23/Aug/19
@puppy bobo My fingers were faster on the keyboard than me reading. You're absolutly right with the percentiles and your conclusion!!
I was simply a bit puzzled about the inches translation.
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ajax509 said on 22/Aug/19
@puppy bobo
Are you stupid? First of all, the difference betweeten 5'11", 6' and 6'1" always remains 1 inch = 2.54 centimetres! Second, the jump from the 5'11" percentile to the 6' is way smaller than from 6' to 6'1", check Laplace-Gauss on Wiki Click Here

puppy bobo said on 22/Aug/19
I see alot of people making meaningful distinction betwwen 6' and 6'1 but I beg to differ! 6' is 183cm and 6'1 is 185cm. that's only 2cm difference, which is bigger than that between 5'11 (180cm) and 6'.

if we assume the average height of young males in the US and UK is 177cm which is kinda correct, then according to CDC:

Click Here

5'11 - 67th percentile
6' - 81st percentile
6'1 - 88th percentile

way bigger gap between 5'11 and 6' than 6' and 6'1!

I think 6' is underrated in people's minds because so many 5'10 and 5'11 guys fraud their height in order to meet that magic number, but a legit 6' guy is actually taller thank you think.
Zeke said on 23/Aug/19
I always thought about this: even if you wear shoes that give you almost an inch of in height, wouldn’t people really not notice? Considering that most shoes in general happen to give roughly the same boost, it can be stated that relatively speaking, you probably wouldn’t look that much shorter or taller in a group of people who are all wearing shoes (heels being the exception, of course, let’s assume everybody’s wearing sneakers).
Johan 185 cm said on 23/Aug/19
puppy bobo said on 22/Aug/19
I see alot of people making meaningful distinction betwwen 6' and 6'1 but I beg to differ! 6' is 183cm and 6'1 is 185cm. that's only 2cm difference, which is bigger than that between 5'11 (180cm) and 6'.

if we assume the average height of young males in the US and UK is 177cm which is kinda correct, then according to CDC:

Click Here

5'11 - 67th percentile
6' - 81st percentile
6'1 - 88th percentile

way bigger gap between 5'11 and 6' than 6' and 6'1!

I think 6' is underrated in people's minds because so many 5'10 and 5'11 guys fraud their height in order to meet that magic number, but a legit 6' guy is actually taller thank you think.

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Well that shows as expected there is a massive jump going from 5'10" to 6'.

Interesting to see that 175 cm is only the 40.9 percentile. So under average while 178 cm is 57.5 percentile.

Even just 5'11" flat is 69.8 percentile. 180.34 cm to be exact. So a massive jump from 5'9" to 5'11".

However a 181-182 cm is also a 5'11" range guy and they come in at 77.6 percentile so the gap isn't that big since 183 cm is 81.6 percentile.

185 cm is 88.1 percentile but a 187 cm guy is 92.9 percentile and close to what many consider Strong tall.

As i thought myself around 189 cm is when you cross into that range where you are at all times considered tall. Its in the 95th and also backing up another of my assumptions that its 6'6" that starts real uncommon heights. (198 cm).

All I take from this is that 5'10-6' is a bridge between average and tall which many here already know i think and that around 6'3" you get into very tall range. Nice to have stats that support own beliefs.
Bobby 5ft 10in said on 23/Aug/19
@puppy bobo

This reminds me of an ideal height survey which I read several years ago. The consensus was that 6'1 was considered the perfect height for a man, with 6'2 not falling far behind, however, the jump to 6'3 was drastic insofar as undesirability went. What was also interesting was that 5'10 was much more appealing than 5'9 despite it being only an inch but that 5'11 was less so, if I recall. It was a weird survey.
cmillzz said on 22/Aug/19
ok 176cm is in the same category with 140cm and is a midget and 183cm is in the same category as 220cm and a giant . happy everybody ? :D be happy

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cmillzz said on 22/Aug/19
@Greg
I was just correcting you. I’m sure if I referred to you as 5’9, you’d correct me too.
pov said on 22/Aug/19
I dont think people realise how small an inch actually is. For example i’m two inches taller than my cousin, but until we both measured we both thought I was only an inch taller. That’s why I don’t feel 6 foot as being tall. Most 5”9 (average) guys are slightly over my eyebrows I don’t feel that makes me tall. I feel you need to be atleast 5 inches over average to be considered “tall”. I think 6”2 is the start of tall, thats when people start referring to you as the “tall guy”. At 6”0.5 no one really calls me tall and I don’t feel it either.
Goel175cm said on 22/Aug/19
@c-mo
Why are you thinking about the average young European male height?
U are from turkey ri8? So you have got genes from Turkey
In Iran and Turkey , for age 18-30, the average is definitely no more than 5’9 or 175cm. The average 175cm has been proven by many sites. So At 176cm at night you are actually a bit above average for Turkey and Iran.
So you are actually from Western Asia.
The average 178cm at night for Europe is for those who belong to European ethnic background.
So you are not under average by 2cm. Intact you are 1cm above average for your country.
Waiting for your reply.
Ellis said on 22/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: Did your mother really measure you at only 6'4.25?, and you routinely get 6'5.5-75 at a low, that is pretty strange, but I think I might know why. I let my mom take my height once, she couldn't read the number, she took a picture at a really bad angle and it said 78 inches, bear in mind that I'm a foot and a couple inches taller than her. Since my dad and brother are closer in height I let them take it, even my dad at 6'3 has problems taking my height, since my brother is taller than my dad he can accurately take it.
Canson said on 22/Aug/19
@Myself: I would hate to duck all the time and looking at how hard it is at 6’4” to build muscle I surely wouldn’t want 2-3” more. It also just draws unwanted attention and hard fits on planes vehicles even chairs
Greg said on 22/Aug/19
@C-mo that’s Ajax for you he hits everybody in the face or at least tries too with his short reach, but at the end of the day what goes around comes around he will soon realize that it will come back and hit him in the face.
Greg said on 22/Aug/19
@Christian I think you’re not understand what I am trying to say so this is going to be my last response to you about this topic. I never said this has anything to do with the government and I know this website isn’t government funded lmao. However, if you think the Government is responsible for our freedom then you have another thing or two to think about. Anybody is free to post what they want hear as long as it’s not threatening or offensive and should mainly correlate to height as it is a height forum. Gee Rob isn’t British no way?! I know Glasgow was in Britain? I’ve been lied to my entire life I blame Australian Big G and his Girlfriend Big Roberta who’s a Spanish Immigrant from the Spanish part of Scotland.
Greg said on 22/Aug/19
@puppy bobo 177cm isn’t the Young average, wth lol. Average is more 175-176 cm maybe at a push. 5’11 is like 72nd percentile or something even 5’10.5 is like 67-68th percentile but each calculator will tell you something different. 6’0 is around 83rd and 6’1 most likely like 85-86th.
K.A 188 ! said on 22/Aug/19
@EVERYONE.....
Start of tall is 182 in my opinion
Dom 184cm said on 22/Aug/19
In my opinion 5'11, 6'0, and 6'1 are in a limbo position. You're not tall, you're not short, but you're not average either.

6'2 is when a guy begins as tall in the eyes of others in my opinion.

Been told I am tall by people but I don't see it. Women have told me in different contexts (dating, friends, strangers, co-workers, peers), but it's something I don't see. I'm open to the idea that I have a body image problem.

I told a few people in one of my high school English classes that I felt short and they were shocked and they said I was tall. Keep in mind I'm in a nice shoe and hitting 6'1.

Meanwhile, there were two football players in there who stood 6'3+. So yes, compared to those guys I am not tall. And a guy in there I became friends with was 6'2 barefoot because I asked him and he told me.

My plan is to buy insoles and try them out to hit 6'2 in a nice shoe.
K.A 188 ! said on 22/Aug/19
@C-MO
No one is trying to belittle you here on celebheights if anything you are the one projecting your insecurities unto other poster to be honest....
K.A 188 ! said on 22/Aug/19
@C-MO
No one is trying to belittle you here on celebheights if anything you are the one projecting your insecurities unto other poster to be honest....
QM6'1QM said on 22/Aug/19
Johan 185 cm said on 21/Aug/19

Literally my opinion about this comment.
Paul97 said on 22/Aug/19
What would you guys say was, in terms of the number of inches above average, the ideal height for feeling tall but at the same time not too tall or standing out too much?
ajax509 said on 22/Aug/19
IMO ideal would be at 50% (in my gender and age group). For Germany, that would be 178.9cm in the afternoon, so I fall short of by 1.7cm. Personally, I prefer "medium", some like "tallish" and many on CH - for whatever reason - "tall" or "very tall".
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john1 said on 20/Aug/19
Obviously the average height varies depending on things like the age group as well as the area you live in, so it would be interesting to hear what your guys 'ideal' percentile for height would be.
ajax509 said on 22/Aug/19
@Greg When have you ever made constructive comments? Bobby and 'little Greg' are only tolerated here, in school they call it inclusion.
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Greg said on 20/Aug/19
@Canson you’ve never had any issue with him but me and tons of others have he just isn’t trolling you. I think the kid might seriously be special needs not that there’s anything wrong with such but that would explain his irrationality. That being said ever since day 1 there’s been arguments here and will continue always because that’s just how it is unfortunately.
guythinkingaboutheight said on 22/Aug/19
@puppy bobo The difference between 6' and 6'1 is exactly the same as between 5'11 and 6', it's 2.54 cm (one inch); 5'11 is 180.34cm, 6' is 182.88cm, and 6'1 is 185.42cm.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 22/Aug/19
@Canson
Sorry, I'm confused. Did hair affect your measurement or not?
puppy bobo said on 22/Aug/19
I see alot of people making meaningful distinction betwwen 6' and 6'1 but I beg to differ! 6' is 183cm and 6'1 is 185cm. that's only 2cm difference, which is bigger than that between 5'11 (180cm) and 6'.

if we assume the average height of young males in the US and UK is 177cm which is kinda correct, then according to CDC:

Click Here

5'11 - 67th percentile
6' - 81st percentile
6'1 - 88th percentile

way bigger gap between 5'11 and 6' than 6' and 6'1!

I think 6' is underrated in people's minds because so many 5'10 and 5'11 guys fraud their height in order to meet that magic number, but a legit 6' guy is actually taller thank you think.
Littlelee5ft6 said on 21/Aug/19
No c-mo this is the first comment I've seen from you or noticed and I didn't know your height so I certainly didn't say anything below 177cm is heading towards short just because you were slightly under this mark. I said it because it's true though I'd say you'd have to be 3 inches below the average height of 5ft 9 to be considered short so 5ft 6 is short the same as 6 foot (3 inches above average) is the start of tall whereas 5ft 11 isn't seen as tall by many and 5ft 6 for a woman isn't seen as tall but 5ft 7 can be
Sakz said on 21/Aug/19
@Dom 184cm I think you just don't feel tall I used to feel the same. It wasn't until I realised how many people I edged out that I truly understood how tall I actually am. It's not about how many people you tower but rather how many you're taller than, and at 6'0 you're not going to tower people who are average height.
Myself said on 21/Aug/19
@Canson
Well yeah, but I just don't know if that's really such a huge issue...I guess you just get used to it.
Chris brady said on 21/Aug/19
@ importer your middle eye level is 5-7.4 and you are about 5-11.75? I would have thought you would be an even six foot.
Johan 185 cm said on 21/Aug/19
c-mo said on 19/Aug/19
@Johan 185 cm

172cm and 175cm are definitely different because as I said 172cm is 5-6cm below average while 175cm is only 2-3cm below average and is in the average range

and I am 176cm at night and one of my friends is 184cm and I dont look short next to him

even my 189cm friend doesnt tower over me or anything and he even thought I am 180cm in the beginning until I corrected him

and yes I am sure my 184cm friend is 184cm . I measured him 3 times and he claimed 184cm before I measured him

I somehow have the feeling that you guys are trolling me

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I just am trying to understand the logic in your statements.

175cm is average you say but 172 cm starts short? 183 cm is above average?

For instance in the UK, Rob has said average is 175-176cm, so short starts around 170 cm. Solid 2 inches gap. Anything between that 171-174 is under average, 177-180cm would be above average.

We however are talking about Europe where 178 cm is more average overall so thats 2cm more on each bracket at least. I view things objectively and am actually curious how you come to these outcomes.

A 3 inch gap while not huge is a noticeable difference. Being eyelevel with someones mouth is far different than their nose for instance.

If your other friend is legit 189 cm then he borderline towers you, he can look clear over your head?? Its the same as you standing with a 5'4" person.

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