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c-mo said on 18/Aug/19
@Arthur

I am a strong 176cm not a weak one . I am 176cm or slightly above even in the afternoon after being awake for 6 and more hours . and at night I only slightly fall below 176cm like 175.9 or 175.8cm or something . it is also hard to measure it exactly to the point even with a stadiometer because of how hard you press etc. . but I am around the 176cm mark even in the evening pretty much so thats a STRONG 176cm not a weak one . I am 177cm after being awake for 1.5 - 2 hours so if anything I am a weak 177cm man not weak 176cm . and I wont even argue about this because it would be silly . weak 176cm ....lol .....


@Greg

I dont only notice taller men . and I live here since around 30 years . the official average height for germany is 5'11 without old men . and it is correct . ajax509 also lives in germany and he also said that average for germany is around 179cm . for only the younger generation it is rather 180cm easily . there is no room for discussion ....you cant know it better than us living here and the official stats are also clear


@ajax509

I am not complaining about my height . whats wrong with you people do you have processing issues ? I say A and you understand it as B . enough with this please . I already said often that I have a decent height and feel quite good . I just with I was a little taller thats all . you have guys here who are 6'0 or even taller who wish they were taller but I dont see you accusing them about complaining their height . are you guys gathering and conspire on me or what ? lol :D
Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 18/Aug/19
@Greg
Technically, we don't have complete freedom of speech on this site though. There are Terms Of Service. It's owned and operated by Rob, so he has the right to approve or delete any comment he wants to. 1st Amendment doesn't apply to CelebHeights.
Editor Rob
Yeah, I am lenient at times with the terms, but maybe I should watch a few more comments closely as it's easy for things to escalate.

It's just different opinions on height - I don't agree with a lot of comments or opinions, but I'm not going to get upset over it. In fact adding the voting option a few years ago means I see a lot more varying opinions in the form of guesses.
Luca said on 17/Aug/19
Rob, these days I ve been really thoughtful about it, and I'd like to know your opinion : since what I wrote you in my last post, should I consider as my "realest" height the one with Feet apart or the one with them together?
Editor Rob
It's recommended by practitioners in the medical field to have pateints stand with feet closer together for measuring.
Bobby 178cm said on 17/Aug/19
@Arthur

Nah, I'd say I'm a solid 177cm discounting that I can dip under at an extreme low. Unless you're accounting for extreme lows too. But I still don't see how 5'10 could be average amongst younger Greeks, unless we're counting morning height or something, in which case, I'm exactly 5'10.5 in the morning. Other statistics place 5'9.75 or about 5'10 as the average for young Greeks. It doesn't explain me feeling above average there though.
Bego said on 17/Aug/19
Wealth has nothing to do with heights. Thats a myth and bs. Height is associated with genetics mostly and lifestyle (food, exercise etc..) in minority which might help you only to gain 1inch more max. Height is usually nature's giving alot too. I know some dudes who are like over 190cm but their dad is 175cm where as i know my friend who is 176cm but his dad is my height 184cm.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 17/Aug/19
How tall is Mr Viper? 🐍
avi said on 17/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19

6'0 is more a tallish / above average height.

It's not really that tall. In the Western world especially. I agree that in 3rd world countries it would be tall sometimes very tall.

6'0 is one of the most unique heights as it's obviously not short , it's not really average but it's also not really tall
So people will have varying opinions on whether 6'0 is solid tall.

6'1 I would classify as tall.

I don't think you need to take things so personally on here as I said on Rob's page

You are saying "I didn't do anything wrong..." Or "I don't think you even know how tall legitimate 182cm and 183cm men really are"
These types of things are actually provoking others and you have no call to make a conclusion on what someone does or doesn't know.

It's like you are always trying to convince yourself or reassure yourself or something.

I think your comment is frankly very rude to @C-mo

Telling him to pi$$ off and saying he doesn't "know sh$t"

It's honestly quite hypocritical as it would appear you'd be the one doing the harassing and you have the audacity to say "you'd go to Rob to report him"


@jdubbz

I would agree that strong 6'3/6'4 would be start of very tall.


@Greg

Hey Greg!

I don't know I don't think 6'2 is very tall. It's just a tall height. Like I said it would be the highest optimal height for everyday living.

I see 6'2 guys almost everyday i normally am just local and at work so not like I'm in large crowds.



But at least we can disagree about something and not rip each other's heads off like most people seem to be doing here now :)
Greg said on 17/Aug/19
@C-mo I see well it definitely could have been interpreted as such but I see where you are coming from and you know I like you as a poster I have no issues with you and never had any in the past. In terms of what you said about Cranston he is a legit 5’10 peak I think he was the full 5’11 if not really close because he managed to look tallish in Malcom in the middle. With that being said I think the averages Vary everywhere you go and sometimes people in taller countries can be shorter my Bus driver for the tour was Serbian and he was around Robs height more or less so that’s under their average by a decent bit. I think generally speaking the European average is marginally higher than the U.S but it would all depend. I wish I was Connors height too he’ll i wouldn’t mind growing another inch I’m sure you wouldn’t either.

@ellis Maybe not a flat 5’9 and 5’10 but if you compare 5’9 to 5’10.5-5’11 which is basically in the same catagory you will see what I mean. Not just making a case for 5’9 and 5’11 because that’s obviously a two inch different and most people will agree that 5’10 and 6’0 are in two different catagories and that’s represented by again 2 inches.
kamb246 said on 17/Aug/19
chill out @Connor Simpson you're just insulting people. chill out bro. no problem
Littlelee5ft6 said on 17/Aug/19
C-mo you see 172 as short but not 173??? Nobody can notice 1cm. Sorry but if 172 is short so is 173cm anything below the UK average of 177cm is heading into short category
c-mo said on 17/Aug/19
Bobby 178cm said on 15/Aug/19

177cm is closer to 180 than 175.


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uhm I think any mathematician will disagree with you xD
cmillzz said on 17/Aug/19
@c-mo
Would you really take 5’10 over 6’2 though?
Jdubbz said on 16/Aug/19
@Ellis:

Do you mean that both 6'1 and 6'3 guys are tall, but your cutoff for very tall is 6'5? If so I agree, though I'd push the threshold for very tall down to flat 6'4 or perhaps Canson's height rather than legit 6'5. And don't get me wrong, I consider 6'1 guys tall too, but I think of tall, standout tall, very tall, etc. as separate things. Like if I see a 6'1 guy and a 6'5 guy, both will appear tall though obviously the 6'5 guy is in a different league. I agree though, after 6'3 things get much rarer. I read a statistic somewhere that there are 20 6'3 guys for every 6'6 guy, and that sounds about right judging from what I've seen. In your case there are probably like 50 6'3 guys for every legit 6'7. It's pretty cool to think about, since you are to a 6'3 guy what a 6'3 guy is to the general population in terms of rarity.
Jdubbz said on 16/Aug/19
@Cmillzz:

I agree. 6'10+ guys are truly rare, like maybe once a year rare. It's pretty easy to pick them out considering how much they massively dwarf the entire population. I'd look tiny next to one of those guys. It's easier for me to tell whether someone is 6'7 compared to an average height guy for obvious reasons, and if you don't count the guys I've seen multiple times, I see a new one maybe once every week or two. That's still obviously a very rare height, but it's nothing compared to 6'10+.
Jdubbz said on 16/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson:

I don't see how he insulted you exactly...sure calling you deluded isn't exactly nice, but it's not like he personally insulted your character or anything like that. This seems like a big misunderstanding to me.
Editor Rob
Folk should try to refrain from throwing insults, even if a persons opinion is far off from your own.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Ellis
But I'm around 6'5" and I don't encounter anyone my height or taller for at least a whole week, sometimes even a couple weeks, and I live in a big populated area like LA.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
I know some might disagree, but anything 6" taller than the average is "very tall" in my book. So in the US it would be 6'3"+. I know that the average is around 5'9.5" where you live, so it might be 6'3.5" for you. And "giant" would be over 11" taller, so 6'8"+ IMO.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Canson
Do you believe that HGH is administered to some basketball players when they're young to make them super tall though? I don't doubt that for a second.
Canson said on 16/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: I agree with everything Ellis said. You may go days without seeing a guy over 6’3”. I am often the tallest person in the room unless I’m around one of my close friends, 3 of which are taller than me and one of which is pretty much a solid 6’3 (6’2 7/8 at 60)
Greg said on 16/Aug/19
@Bobby Agreed Napoleon aka Ajax has been trolling this forum for the past 2 weeks now it’s a shame he won’t come to his senses 😂
ajax509 said on 16/Aug/19
Yeah it's my fault, sorry for that! I'd just missed you're a Yankee, it's not about measurements, it's about alternative facts 🇺🇸. Either you agree on a size difference 👍 or you just spread untruths.

By now, I think it would be best to start a CelebHeights.com fundraiser, Headline: Leg lengthening surgery for our beloved board member 'Bobby 178cm'.
I'm sure, if you stop idiotic comments on this thread a large donation will come together.
And if that isn't enough 📏, we just ask Elon Musk to shoot you into space 🚀 so you can keep your morning height 24/7.
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Bobby 178cm said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
I forget what his low is personally. I can't remember if I'm half an inch or three quarters of an inch taller than he is, but my point was that I don't place 175 in the same category as 177 let alone 178. Even if the difference is just 2cm, 177cm is closer to 180 than 175.
@Ajax509
You're an idiot, C-Mo and I have established in the past that we are half an inch apart, which is 1.3cm. Just because our morning measurements are close doesn't mean we are under 1cm apart. I wasn't downgrading anyone. I can't remember what his low was.
@C-Mo
I didn't mean to offend you. I honestly couldn't recall what your regular low was. Mine is 177.2cm, what was yours again? Like 176cm? Well, let's say that. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I didn't mean for it to escalate like this.
ajax509 said on 16/Aug/19
@c-mo
maybe quit complaining about your height, it is like every once in a week we read "bla bla 180-184cm golden range". Accept your own height! For a solid 5ft 9, many men would swap their own height within the blink of an eye!! In my opinion, your height is much more ideal than any height over 6ft 2. Carry it!
Greg said on 16/Aug/19
@c-mo I disagree 5’10 can’t really be the average all around Europe you are most likely walking around town and paying attention to the taller guys as opposed to the shorter guys. Sometimes it can feel that way but I’m telling you that is now the case. Sure you could feel the younger generation in Germany might average 5’10-5’11 because you notice the tall guys but that’s not true.

@Mikeg 5’11 Well personally once you hit 6’0 you should be viewed as tall especially if you’re a legit 6’0 in most places hitting around 6’1 range in shoes that’s a tall guy. Also again proportions have a lot to do with it so if you have good proportions in decent footwear that will increase the perception. It’s also different in retrospect to who’s observing your height.
Greg said on 16/Aug/19
@Jddubz Freedom of Speech 1st Amendment Connor can post and say whatever he wants it was a Disagreement between the two C-mo seems to have explained himself a little bit more, but I agree with Connor though it seemed like c-mo was purposely trying to make it seem so that Connors height was only viewed as above average whilst all of a sudden .5 inches taller or up was tall lmao like no it don’t work that way.
Arthur! said on 16/Aug/19
If c-mo wakes up at 178.3 cm he can't be under 175.5 cm at his worst. He is a weak 176 cm guy. Bobby is more of a flat 177 cm guy than a solid one. You guys are only half an inch apart, you both are in the same category. 5'9 to 5'11 is average range. That doesnt mean of course that 5'9 is the same as 5'10 nor the same as 5'11. Every 1 cm counts in the average range, that's the truth.

Why does everyone find it so hard to believe that young greeks are at least 5'10? In the UK average height is 5'9 and for youngsters it's 5'10. Wikipedia pegs are our average down as 5'9.5, so young greeks average at 5'10.5, which makes sense because I am 178.5 cm at my usual low and I feel quite average amongst the younger generation, but since I live in the more wealthy suburbs of Athens I sometimes tend to feel 1 or 2 cm below against the YOUNGER, I REPEAT, YOUNGER GENERATION. I feel 2 cm taller against the whole male population. I never said the average male height of all ages is 5'10, of course it's in the 5'9 range, but your own out of nowhere 5'8 range estimates for the male greek average are hilarious. There is no way IN HELL you d see more 5'5 young guys than 6'3, so that's why Im suggesting the average's at least 5'10 or a bit more for youngsters.
cmillzz said on 16/Aug/19
@Greg
If 5’7 is short, then 5’11 is tall. I don’t know about you, but I would never describe a 5’11 guy as being “tall”.
Paycho said on 16/Aug/19
Hey rob
What is the difference between "medium height" and "average height". People sometimes use them interchangeably. But i get the sense that "medium height" is more broad and covering a wider range like 5"7-5"11 maybe less (including below and above average). While average height is a narrow range, even one number. "Medium height" is more a normal range than average range for most people. Do you agree? I would really like your input on this subject?
Thanks
Editor Rob
I've never really used that term, I think most who do are probably thinking of an average range, maybe 5ft 8-10?
Importer said on 16/Aug/19
Good to know
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Aug/19
@Cmillzz
It also depends on what type of place they live. Seeing a 6'10"+ guy is more common if you live in a big populated city. A 6'7" guy can never see anyone taller than him for years, if he lives in a rural area.
Luca said on 16/Aug/19
@K.A.188 what is your absolute lowest height ever reached?
c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
@ Johan 185 cm

nah ... 172 - 175cm are not in the same category really . 175cm is only 2-3cm below average for young men and almost bang on average when you include older men too . while 172cm is 5-6cm below average . a 175cm man will look fairly average height while 172cm is a bit short

look at Robert Knepper for example . he is a weak 175cm even so not even the strongest 175cm guy and when I watched prison break I NEVER thought his height as short . I also thought he has a nice and aesthetic height always. while at the same tiem look at actor aron paul . I dont know if you watched breaking bad and he doesnt look that "short" to me either but he does seem a bit shortish or below average

compare him with bryan cranston who is 5'10

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he is 172cm (at least he is listed at that and I think rob listed him correctly) . a 175cm man would look different next to bryan cranston be sure of that

in fact I have a 181cm friend and the difference between me and is less than between these both actors


a 175cm man will wake at 177cm or so so he will be closer to 180cm even than to 172cm in the morning while a 172cm man will wake at 174cm or so so he will not even be 175cm even in the morning . it is a difference trust me .

grant heslov seems to be a strong 175cm and compare him with 5'10 range george clooney

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I mean you might argue that Aron Paul might be a little shorter than 172cm ? maybe . but I doubt it . either way 172cm and 175cm are pretty different because as I said at 175cm you are only a bit below average while at 172cm you fall more strongly below average .

in before "gEoRgE cLoOnEy Is 5'9" ....nope he isnt


I have the feeling that people want to put 175cm with 172 or even 170cm here just because I am 176cm in the evening . as if you dont want to "grant me" to be in the same category with 178 - 180cm or even 177cm . lol . wtf is going on haha


I mean you can think what you want of course . but I can tell you that 172cm and 175cm even are pretty different and the jump from 172cm to 175cm is pretty big because you jump from a bit short to average height



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@Greg

I didnt even attack bobby nor was I "defensive" . you shouldnt take the way I am writing the wrong way . I might sound like a know it better person or even angry sometimes but thats only because it is hard to talk on the internet . if you talked to me in real life you would know what I mean . I was not attacking bobby or anybody . nor did I try to disrespect connor or anybody . I just wanted to state my opinion nothing more


to answer your questions :

I live in southwest area of center germany so I am not even living in the north where people are even taller . average here is 5'11 for non elderly ethnic german men and 5'10 if you include the older ones too and probably around 5'9 when you also include immigrants . as I said I dont feel short here at 5'9.25 night height . also southern europeans and people like russians are rather around my height on average ...south europeans might even be a bit below my height on average . I think I am also a bit above average for turkey where I am from (I am kurdish btw.) . but people like germans , croats , serbs etc ? they are easily 5'11 on average ..... easily


regarding Rob . no I dont think Rob is "short" . but Robs height is what I consider the buffer zone or borderline height as I wrote in my height chart below . it is below average but not properly "short" yet and can look and feel average often . Rob also says the same btw. about his height . he said this a couple of times already too so I am not making it up either thats how Rob feels how 5'8 is . 173 - 174cm at night is the buffer zone and anything below 173cm at night starts to become short and anything above 174cm at night is definitely not short at all anymore and will be average for sure . of course at heights like 172cm you will not be suddenly become strongly short and a 172cm man and even a 170cm man can look and feel average and wont stand out but it definitely starts to fall in the "shorter side" a bit . and of course at 175cm you will not start to tower all the 170-172cm men all of a sudden lol but at 175cm you definitely are out of the "short side" and will look and feel fairly average most of the time ....but you can sometimes of course feel a bit shortish at 175cm even but not nearly as much as with 172cm and below

Rob has very good proportions btw. . he has very aesthetic proportions


and regarding connor :

I know I sounded a bit fussy and also as if I dont grant him his opinion . which was not my intention . I respect his opinion and if he feels tall then I believe him of course . he is above average height anyway . and 6'0 is a perfect height to be I wish I was his height :D
Ellis said on 15/Aug/19
@Jbubbz: I agree with what you are saying. 5'9 and 5'10 are not in two different categories, 5'9 and 5'11 can definitely make a case for it.

I think being a legit 6'7 guy, that even 6'0 is not by any means average. Actually, by some notions it could be accountable as tall. Somebody posted that they don't feel tall at 6'0.5, it's hard for me to tell because I dwarf everyone, but I feel as if 6'1 is a tall height. 6'3 is really the cutoff, after that the heights become rarer and less frequent, but even 6'1 is a tall height, despite the fact that is accompanied by a much larger count then people 6'3, it is a tall height. However, 6'3 is a height you will always see, I believe the cut off is at 6'5, at 6'5 flat at night, there is a chance you might not see anyone that height the whole day. That is why when some people see me they acknowledge my presence, it really showed when I was recently in a populated area, and I stood next to a measure up thing, and when I say everyone, literally everyone, like 15 people stopped to look at how tall I was, it was kinda weird, but shows just how insecure people can be with height, there had to be like 20 people in the room.
Jdubbz said on 15/Aug/19
@Canson: Idk if I'd call 190cm very tall. A 6'2.8" guy doesn't give the same "tall guy" impression that someone of your height does. I'd argue that the 190-193cm range is the borderline area between tall and very tall, since it is standout tall in public (especially 192-193cm) but doesn't really tower average height guys like a 194cm+ guy would.
Bego said on 15/Aug/19
@pov 185cm is what i consider start of tall. 182 to 184cm is just tallish.
Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz This has nothing to do with him disagreeing with my opinions and that he doesn't consider me tall thats fine idc but its nothing to do with that.

Im angry with him because he wasnt respecting me and Bobby when he said to us that we were deluded just for having different opinions than his, now you cant seriously tell me that's acceptable. He was out of order and i wasnt just going to sit back and not do anything, i had every right to speak out against him. I dont condone what he did and if i feel like giving people a piece of my mind when they provoke me i will do and ill continue to defend myself and other people whether you like it or not, so sorry to disappoint you but im sticking to my guns with this.
Canson said on 15/Aug/19
@Christian: that’s interesting about Yao. I’ve never heard that until now. Even if it isn’t true I still never heard Eugenics associated with him
Canson said on 15/Aug/19
@Christian: that’s interesting about Yao. I’ve never heard that until now
Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19
@c-mo I was offended because of how you spoke to me and Bobby and no you didn't respect our opinions at all because if you did you wouldn't have said to us that we were deluded so quit the BS, and i know the average height here way better than you do Mr Know it all.

For the last time it's not 5'10, for the young generation perhaps but overall for all ages and all races, even for European men it is still much less than 5'10, trust me ive seen way more 5'9 and 5'8 men than 5'10, and i guarantee you its not just where i live, the average would be lower everywhere else too. Just because some surveys report the UK average to be 5'10 doesn't necessarily mean that its true, thats just what some people think it is.

And how is 182-183cm "rather a little above average"? that makes no sense. I don't think you even know how tall legitimate 182cm and 183cm men really are, in that range you are clearly taller than most men you walk past, ill even show you my percentile for my height in the UK since you think you know everything:

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And as usual you keep refusing to acknowledge that the average height wont be the same in other countries so its quite obvious that you still didn't do any research, you dont know s**t. The global average IS less than 5'10 because most men are below it, i even proved it to you and yet you are still denying it, im not going to argue with you anymore and my patience is wearing thin, ive had a pretty stressful day today so im not in the mood for this.

Now let me set the record straight to you, i dont like you i dont think you respect me and Bobby at all or anyone else for that matter, and if you reply to me again then i will report you to Rob for harassment, now piss off.
Bobby 178cm said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz

I forget what his low is personally. I can't remember if I'm half an inch or three quarters of an inch taller than he is, but my point was that I don't place 175 in the same category as 177 let alone 178. Even if the difference is just 2cm, 177cm is closer to 180 than 175.

@Ajax509

You're an idiot. C-Mo and I have established in the past that we are half an inch apart, which is 1.3cm. Just because our morning measurements are close doesn't mean we are under 1cm apart. I wasn't downgrading anyone. I can't remember what his low was.

@C-Mo

I didn't mean to offend you. I honestly couldn't recall what your regular low was. Mine is 177.2cm, what was yours again? Like 176cm? Well, let's say that. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I didn't mean for it to escalate like this.
ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
Let me finish my comment on height in Germany:
I'm from Germany too and I can verify average is 178.9cm
Connor Simpson said on 15/Aug/19
@ajax509 Ive not done anything wrong, i have every right to stand up for myself after how rude c-mo was to me and Bobby calling us deluded all just because we had different opinions than his, if you got a problem with that then take it up with Rob, but he acted like everything he was saying was factual, if anyone is deluded it's him because its all subjective. There's no right or wrong answer and he needs to realize that.
Jdubbz said on 15/Aug/19
@Ajax: I’d say very tall is 193+ rather than 190+. Everything else is spot on though.
Jdubbz said on 15/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson: Jesus Christ dude, you don’t have to go off on a rant just because C-mo disagrees with your views and doesn’t consider you tall. It’s really not that big of a deal, you know if you’re tall and you don’t need someone else’s approval for that.

@Bobby: you and C-mo are most certainly not in a different category. He’s not a flat 175cm, closer to 176cm I think. That’s a half inch difference between you and him. Different category would be like if C-mo was a weak 5’9 and you were a strong 5’10 or weak 5’11. Weak 5’10 and strong 5’9 aren’t that different.
ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
If c-mo's a solid 175cm then you're a flat 176. Do the math 179.1-178.3cm = 0.8cm
I don't respect posters who downgrade others. Whilst upgrading yourself, that's pretty steep!! 😂
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Bobby 178cm said on 13/Aug/19
@C-Mo

Actually, given your low as being around a solid 175 and myself a solid 177 at a low, I am 2cm taller than you. Almost an inch taller. My height is in a different category to yours. Anyway, my comment wasn't meant to attack you, I just don't agree with categorizing 5'9 and 5'11 in the same category as each other. A 181cm man is going to be seen as tallish whereas a 175 man will feel average height. That's 6cm apart, not in the same category. If you had said something like 180 to 183 or something, it'd make more sense. A 6cm difference is almost 3 inches or about 2.5 inches.
c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
bobby

I didnt get it as an attack and I also didnt attack you either . I am just saying that what you are saying doesnt make sense .

I am 176cm in the evening or slightly below . not 175cm . so you are 1.3cm taller than me . make it 1.5cm if you want doesnt matter . so you are basically only a bit taller than me but place me with 170cm men in a category and yourself with 181cm men ? really ? lol wtf bro

I am also closer to 180cm than to 170cm . you are just a little closer to 180cm than me but to place yourself in the same category with 181cm (which is not wrong btw.) but placing me with 170cm men .....nah thats total bs

I am 5'10 in the morning and 5'9.25 at night and get placed with 5'7 men in a category by a guy who is not even 1 inch taller than me who places himself with 5'11.25 men in one category but leaving me ...his fellow average height bro out :p hehe
Emil said on 15/Aug/19
@Houss

It's hard to assess based on that picture taken the angle and perspective into account, but I'd go with 6-7 inches (15-18 cm).
Bego said on 15/Aug/19
I was on concert yesterday here in Modrac lake in Robinzon, there were about 1k people there. Avg seemed by height, i felt bellow avg few times, there was a huge security guard About 195cm possibly larger i didnt pay much attebtion, he was so huge and wide, he is the legit biggest guy i have saw in my life, all muscular.
ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
c-mo wrote multiple times his range is 178.3-175.8cm, damn get you're own facts right! I'm from Germany too and I can verify average is 178.9cm for
K.A 188 ! said on 15/Aug/19
@MYSELF
For the generations born in the 90's just like you and me . I think the average is 175-180 cm, of course exception are always there but generally speaking thats the average.
At times i wonder if the average will keep increasing or stabilize? Like in Holland or Germany.
Canson said on 15/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: I’d start very tall at about 190 and go up to 200. 180-189 would be tall imho
ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
@Connor
Last days, you are running out of control. Calm down mate!
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Connor Simpson said on 13/Aug/19
@c-mo you act like you know everything Mr Know it all, let people have their opinions about heights they are entitled to them and you were out of line for what you said about us, if you reply to me again im not even going to bother messaging you back, ive got better things to do with my time than waste it on toxic people like you, you're a waste of space.
ajax509 said on 15/Aug/19
If both barefooted/same stance, 6.5 inches.
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houss said on 13/Aug/19
How much is the difference between the two
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c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson

why are you so angry though ? and why are you insulting me ? xD lol

I have posted links of average heights for europe 2-3 hours ago or so and they will be up later or maybe the post will be up before this one which I am writing right now and you can see there that average is in the around 178cm evening for young european men .

5'10 is the average height for european men not 5'9 and for sure not 5'8 . if it is around 5'8 where you live then it is only because of all the people who have foreign ancestry and hail from shorter countries and when you also include old men . if you want to include them to measure the average then you can do it of course . it is up to you .

in that case yes 6'0 would be tall . and 6'0 is also tall outside of europe of course. and even for europe it is above average as I also said . you talk as if I said that 6'0 is short or something lol . I just dont think it is solid "tall" you know .....and I said 6'0.5 because that would be imo the bare minimum height where you could argue that is tall for an ethnic young european guy . basically 184cm at night . but 185cm and over I would say is where real tall starts . 182-183cm is rather a litle above average . of course there will be a decent amount of people who will see a 6'0 man as tall of course ....it is a bit of a difficult matter . I didnt try to lecture you about your heihgt and didnt want to offend you . I just gave my opinion . and I respect your opinion . I also think 6'0 is the perfect height btw. :) so I am a fan of your height

and here in germany average is AT LEAST 5'10 but rather 5'11 for ethnic young german men btw. . I dont think anywhere in germany the average for young german guys is any less than 5'10 on average and if it is then such cities/regions would be atypical . I am not even in the north btw.

and I am not 175.1-2 cm at night . I am 176 - 176.1 cm in the afternoon after being awake for 6+ hours and 175.9cm at night or slightly below like 175.8cm . so I am "CLOSER" to 180cm than to 170cm . you know what CLOSER means right ?

I am not saying that I am "close to 180cm" like a 179cm guy or whatever . my point was that I am always closer to 180cm than I am to 170cm on any time of the day so you can not put me in the same category as 170cm . and if we take your view on average height then it would make even less sense to put me in the same category with 170cm because you say average is 5'8 - 5'9 and I am 5'10 in the morning and a little above 5'9 even at night so I would be above average according to that and if you put me with 5'7 in the same category you would basically put an above average guy with a below average height in the same category which doesnt make any sense

also bobby is only 1.3cm or so taller than me thats why I found it weird how he lists himself with 181cm in the same category but I am with 170cm in the same cateogry according to him even though he is barely taller than me and we are both around average height lol .

thats like putting a 180.3cm man in the same category with 184cm but a 179cm man in the same category with 173cm . it doesnt make any sense . you can not even put a 174cm guy in the same category with 170cm because a 174cm guy is 3-4cm below average while a 170cm guy is 7-8cm below average . my brother is 174cm at night and he looks pretty average even though on the weaker side... or at worst a little below average while 170cm men look very obviously below average

I am actually quite surprised by your reaction . I wouldnt have thought that you will talk like this lol

I didnt want to offend you
Greg said on 15/Aug/19
@Ajax You make absolutely no sense, If by Napoleon you are referring to yourself Than yes Mr. Dynamite we might not Vote for Pedro’s compaign after all Lord Manlet wouldn’t want to get angry as you’re the overseer of them. I don’t agree with this unless you are talking about some European Countries. Anything over 176 is above average in US and UK. So 177 is marginally above average even ask Bobby he’s form Canada so going by their average . 179-180 is above average to tallish. 182+ is getting into the tall range and 185 is legit tall and anything 188+ will be a standout tall.
cmillzz said on 15/Aug/19
A 6’10 guy could go years without seeing someone his height or taller. 6’7, I doubt, unless they never leave their house.
Johan 185 cm said on 15/Aug/19
I would say that 172-175 cm belong more together as they are under average but not short heights.

176-179cm as being average and maybe 180-183 as being above average. Anything over 184 cm being regular tall and over 190 cm very tall.

All low heights.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Aug/19
@Importer
It's possible. After all, some athletes are known to use steroids and other performance enhancements, and there are more that use them but we just don't know about it. I saw a conspiracy theory online that in China, they even use eugenics to breed people to be extremely tall in order to play basketball, It's been rumored that Yao Ming was bred via eugenics, but I l'd doubt it.
mikeg5'11 said on 15/Aug/19
c-mo I dont think that 6'0.5 is the bare minimun to be considered tall I mean is the same as 6'0 and you dont considered that tall tbh 6'1.5 is the bare minimun to be tall since average is atleast 5'10
c-mo said on 15/Aug/19
@Importer

The average height for young men worldwide is rather 5‘7.5 ....no way is it 5‘9

Has any of you seen this site/forum ? the thread is about average male height and it looks reasonably accurate to me

Click Here

Stats are between 2006 and 2010 though

another site with averages but the values are all at point zero and probably rounded up or down or something . (it is in german)

Click Here


also take a look at this site this one is really cool . probably the most up to date site . it seems the stats are for 2017-2018 :

Click Here

you can change the gender when you click on the top left where it says “women” and you can change it to map view by clicking on top right on “switch to map” . you can also choose the birth year of the men on the bottom. It seems that it calculates only the heights of 18 year olds no matter what birth year you are putting it on . correct me if I am wrong . which would mean you might add 1-2cm for possible late growth but I doubt this is necessary


The first link (the one from the forum ) says that the average height for young european men is 177.5 cm .

I also calculated the average height for european men from the second link/site but without turkey and georgia , even though they are borderline european countries (armenia and azerbaijan and cyprus are not on the list ) . and I didnt include romania and moldavia because their average is low compared to their neighbors ....a reason for that could be that they have a lot of romanis in their country who are not really ethnic europeans but might have been included in the statistics thats why I didnt include them . the same problem applies to other countries in the balkan area and even other european countries too but I still included them . I also didnt include albania at 174cm because that value seems unrealistic to me ...there are also some other heights which seem unrealistic to me like 178cm for montenegro seems too low or 179cm for france seems too high .

anyway I got an average of 178.857 cm with this calculation . when I DO include romania/bulgaria/albania/turkey/georgia I get 178.325cm

with the third link I adjusted the birth year to 1996 and I got these average heights for europe :

I didnt include turkey/armenia/georgia/azerbaijan/cyprus because they are borderline european countries .

I have done 2 calculations . one without russia , moldova , romania , albania and one with them . the reason why I excluded russia is that russia has many different ethnic groups and also people who are of east asian or similar ethnic make up and not ethnic european . and moldova + romania are most likely that low because of the romanis as I said . I actually would have also exclude some other countries from the balkan area + hungary because of the romanis and I think the UK average would also be higher without the all immigrants . but I didnt exclude them because that would be too many countries to exclude. and albania is a mystery to me too . I highly doubt the average height for ethnic albanians is that „low“ .

so the results are :

without russia/moldova/romania/albania = 179.12 cm

with russia/moldova/romania/albania = 178.67cm

wow ....

so since it seems that the stats are for 18 year olds we could even add 1-2cm because some will grow a little until 20 – 25 . some might even grow more than that and have a late growth spurt . that would make the average easily 180cm or even a bit more for ethnic european men in 2019 . I do think that these measurements are from earlier in the day . maybe some are even self reported ? I dont know . but it does seem that the average height for a young european man is around 178cm in the evening either way . all data points us to that value roughly . definitely no lower than 177cm evening either way . so 6‘0 is NOT „tall“ as I said . and the average height for europe is NOT 5‘9 let alone 5‘8 but a solid 5’10 or even a bit more . average range is 5‘9 – 5’11 even though 5'9 is almost already a bit below the average range . 5‘8 and 6‘0 are buffer zone or borderline heights . 5‘7 is starting to get short and 6‘1 is the start of tall

so the notion that "average is 5'8-5'9" or "6'0 is tall ! " are not accurate .
Paycho said on 14/Aug/19
Hey rob,
The comments below ,which debates the average height range in europe is interesting,but contradicts alot of the statistics iv seen. What do you think is average range in europe and what would be considered short there?(im not from europe so i really dont know) and what european coutries would be below that average of europe?
Thanks
Nik Ashton said on 14/Aug/19
I agree with Connor about the average being 5’8” - 5’9”!
cmillzz said on 14/Aug/19
Bobby at 177cm is barely above average.
cmillzz said on 14/Aug/19
@C-mo
I think of 168-169cm as being the start of short rather than 172cm.
Luca said on 14/Aug/19
Rob, just one last thing:I noticed that if I stand with my feet at my shoulder width I measure a hair more than with my feet together, feeling that this way I can stretch better my legs: since that, should I use to measure myself with my feet a bit apart?
Editor Rob
if you want another mm on your height, then stand with feet 6-8 inches apart!
Bobby 178cm said on 14/Aug/19
@Jdbubbz

Nah, I don't consider myself above average because I want to make my height seem glorious or anything of that nature. I'm just going based off observation and experience as living in one of the most diverse cities in the world: Toronto. Also, considering I measure or am close to 178cm in the afternoon, I feel as though 5'10 is on the higher point of average in Toronto. Tall average, I'd think. I just disagreed with C-Mo saying that 5'9 and 5'11.25 belong in the same category. I mean, be honest, out of the two, which do you think is going to be called tall versus average? The guy who measures 5'11.25, right? My statement wasn't meant to attack C-Mo or his height, we just had a disagreement on height categories. And to be fair, I even consider a man of C-Mo's stature to be slightly above the average height too. I only say this because I see a lot of 5'7-5'8 guys here in Toronto. I'm taller than a good share of people at the supermarket and on campus I feel between average and above average, it's a little weird sometimes. I think 5'10 is average on my campus but sometimes it can be above average depending on the time of day.
pov said on 14/Aug/19
In my opinion speaking for the younger generation in the UK. (90’s kids) 6”3 is the new tall. I’m 6”0.5 and im rarely referred to as tall, I don’t feel tall, I was never considered “tall” in school or at uni. im only slighly taller than most my friends who mostly sit in the 5”9-5”11 range with a few shorter ones and taller ones outside that bracket. Only elder relatives refer to me as “tall”. I don’t even view 6”1 as tall. I’d say 6”2 is quite tall. 6”3 is a solid tall.
Bego said on 14/Aug/19
When i was in Graz Austria i could never tell whats the avg i have seen both short and tall Austrians, older people were usually shorter and i saw one taller one. Half of people were immigrants i edged out and towered so idk what avg id give them. 180cm estimate for young and 177cm for all ages
Importer said on 14/Aug/19
@c-mo I think @Bobby meant to say that he feels more often above average than just average and for @Connor Simpson he feels more often tall than just above average, so at the end of the day that feeling is going to count really. @Jdubbz I agree it depends. You live in an area where your height feels very tall rather than freakish. If you moved to Bobby’s or Connor’s area you’d feel taller I say.
Importer said on 14/Aug/19
@c-mo I think @Bobby meant to say that he feels more often above average than just average and for @Connor Simpson he feels more often tall than just above average, so at the end of the day that feeling is going to count really. @Jdubbz I agree it depends. You live in an area where your height feels very tall rather than freakish. If you moved to Bobby’s or Connor’s area you’d feel taller I say.
cmillzz said on 14/Aug/19
Tbh, I don’t really think any height should be grouped with each other. Because even an inch can make quite a big difference between a lot of heights.
Connor Simpson said on 14/Aug/19
Height comparison between a 6 footer and someone at 6'0.5:

Click Here
Greg said on 14/Aug/19
@C-mo I think you’re misunderstanding what Bobby and Connor are trying to say or maybe it was miscommunicated, whatever the reason is I’ll break it down to you. So first of to what you said about Greeks averaging 5’10, that is not true I’m sure their are tall Greek men but their average is probably more 5’8-5’9 I’ll say 5’8.5 just for the sake of this argument. What part of Germany do you live in again ? I feel like you are basing this around your town and while to be fair I will agree with you some parts of Germany 5’10 can seem the average for Young men or at least 5’9.5 I’ve seen tall people in Switzerland and in Austria plus some parts of Germany even the elder generation. Now I’m about an inch and change taller then you, I would put your height in the average catagory. Maybe sometimes you would feel below average in certain places as sometimes I even feel about average or barely above it in Europe but sometimes I will feel above it just depends. 5’7 is short 5’8 isn’t really that short although I’ve had some 5’8 friends feel like they where short at a bar before I felt comfortably above average I mean this was in America but generally I will feel taller in my town than in Europe. Now here’s another thing I disagree with you about 6’0.5 being a minimum to be tall just lol at that? So how is Connor above average he’s perfectly tall at around 80 something percentile in the UK. You’ll be taller than most Men you meet not counting taller countries where the average is say 5’11 so he will be above average there. As for Bobby I think you thought he was attacking you and got super defensive relax. He was trying to act better than you he’s not taller than you by much. I noticed the taller posters here have more strict standards about what is tall so the taller they are the taller you would have to be to be categorized by them. I wouldn’t group 5’9-5’11 as average and nobody is saying 5’9 is a bad height it’s not bad. 5’10 and 5’11 are above average in most places with the exception of a few tall Countries. 5’8 isn’t short would you call a guy like Rob short? No he holds up well with most celebs I think you need to chill out bro forreal.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Aug/19
@K.A
You're not going to get an accurate measurement unless you use a aerosol can or a thick hard book. Those two methods are the best alternatives for a stadiometer. Using only a ruler isn't enough.
Redwing said on 14/Aug/19
K.A 188@

Hey man, yeah bro that’s quite the trip so you too grew like 7 cm since 2014; height system here in NZ is quite inaccurate too as I’ve measured 175 cm before and etc. Which is strange as I’m a fraction shorter than my stepdad who’s you’re 1.88 cm tall. This was this year as well it blew my mind, and doesn’t add up since I was nearly 7 cm shorter than a 194 cm man. Do you look younger than you’re age? I think that might help too with growing huh
Luca said on 14/Aug/19
Rob, if busting a gut and just standing tall I measure exactly the same, it means that I have an impeccable posture?
I remember you that I made posture exercises for different months, which made me gain about 7-8 mm of height
Editor Rob
It shows you have a very good posture.

Someone like Tom Cruise when he poses is probably near his measured height in many photos.
Jdubbz said on 13/Aug/19
@c-mo: I'd place you both in same category. I’d say 5’9-5’10 is average, with upper average beginning at 179cm/5’10.5 night height. That’s just my opinion, but yeah 5’7 and 5’9 definitely aren’t in the same group. I don’t think Bobby meant to offend you. We all like to view our heights in the best way possible. Bobby considers himself to be above average at 177cm (I don’t think he is, but that’s just based on my area and I don’t mean to insult him), and I think of my height as very tall but not freakish at all. Not everyone sees things that way, so there’s bound to be some disagreement when it comes to categorizing heights.

As for your height chart, I mostly agree though I’d call 186cm - 192cm tall (I think of 192-193cm as a buffer zone) and 194-200cm very tall. Also I’d insert a tallish or above average category between 181cm and 186cm.
Bobby 178cm said on 13/Aug/19
@C-Mo

Actually, given your low as being around a solid 175 and myself a solid 177 at a low, I am 2cm taller than you. Almost an inch taller. My height is in a different category to yours. Anyway, my comment wasn't meant to attack you, I just don't agree with categorizing 5'9 and 5'11 in the same category as each other. A 181cm man is going to be seen as tallish whereas a 175 man will feel average height. That's 6cm apart, not in the same category. If you had said something like 180 to 183 or something, it'd make more sense. A 6cm difference is almost 3 inches or about 2.5 inches.

I understand what you're saying, but by your logic, I am considerably closer to 180cm, I wake up at 179cm and in shoes I am 181+ and in boots, I am 182cm. Also, I consider myself a 177/178 guy. What I'm getting at is that 5'10 can be called tallish, especially if it's a big 5'10, like 5'10.5.

And I'm sorry to say, C-Mo, but I've been to Greece, and I can tell you for a fact, that the average height for young Greeks is not 5'10. I even asked Rob for his opinion and he doubts it too. From what I noticed, I'd say a strong 5'8 is average, maybe a legit 5'9.
Connor Simpson said on 13/Aug/19
@c-mo I know i said i wasnt going to message you again but first i need to get something else off my chest, you need to think before what you type, you keep forgetting that 5'10 is not the average height everywhere and besides thats only for the young generation and in some parts of the world the average for younger people is even lower than that, 5'10 may be the average in some parts of Germany but its not that for the most part and 5'10 looks more slightly above average than just bang on average, you need your eyes testing maybe you should have gone to Specsavers? 😂 just an idea.

Also WRONG Greeks dont average at 5'10 its 5'9.5, dont believe me? take a look at this link, Click Here do some research of the average heights for different countries and see for yourself im not telling you any more because im a lot smarter than you. 😀

Ive just looked up the global average height for men and women again and they said it is more like 159.5cm for women and 171cm for men so you're wrong again lol, i was wrong too but at least i can actually admit that im not always right.

So yeah a lot of men are under 5'9 and even 5'8 but obviously youre too thick to understand that, and the fact that you keep repeating the same s**t proves my point, even after seeing what ive posted you'll probably still argue the toss with me, because you dont like it when you're wrong and that someone else is right. ☺️

And if you can actually be bothered to read some of my messages you'd know that im not from Germany where you live, i live in the UK so the average here is 5'9 so 6'0 is quite tall in our country, 6'0 really is 3 inches above average here and i could even argue that the average might be less than that because of how little the amount of 5'9 guys is, it probably is more like 5'8 in the UK so therefore 6'0 is indeed a tall height, 5'11.5 could even be the start of tall because its 3.5 inches taller than that.

Oh yeah i hate to break it to you but you're no where near 180cm not even close to it. Youre 178.3cm out of bed and in the afternoon you're what like 5'9 3/8ths? thats 176.2cm and in the evening youre a little above 175cm so im assuming youre 175.1 or 175.2cm at your low, you're no where near 180cm.

Almost 180cm is more like 179-179.5cm you are just about 5cm shorter so youre more 175ish than nearly 180cm, sorry but you cant argue with facts.

Also you attack Bobby about his opinions of what he thinks of certain heights on whats tall, average and short yet you say 6'0 isnt tall but 6'0.5 is? lol 😂😂😂 its only a half an inch difference, they would look virtually the same in comparison, what you say is so inconsistent it's laughable. Im even laughing now as im writing this hahaha.

But whatever im done with you now its like talking to a brick wall, im going to do something proactive now and enjoy life, you keep on being a s**t human being and a loser, after all its all youre good at it, go and hang out with your good bald friend Arthur and have a sleepover at his cave and you can both go and look for a cure for your hair losses, see ya. 😀👋
Myself said on 13/Aug/19
@K.A
Alright, that's a city not too far away and similar in size to mine, with 25% more inhabitants though. What do you think the global average height is there? What about younger generations 18-30 yo? Here I think it's at most 175-176 for global. Even though sometimes the younger average could seem near enough 5'10 (expecially in University), I still regularly see young guys in 168-173 range.
houss said on 13/Aug/19
How much is the difference between the two
Click Here
ajax509 said on 13/Aug/19
My father used to be 5ft 10.25, mother 5ft 1. Grandparents on fathers side 5ft 11 and 5ft 6 (uncles: 6ft and 5ft 10.75), whilst on mothers side 5ft 8.25 and 5ft 1.25 (uncle: 5ft 6). I measure 5ft 9.75, my brother 5ft 7.75.

Would you say I ended up taller than expected?

How tall are your parents/family members?
Editor Rob
I think you probably ended up a bit above the figure a Doctor may have predicted.

I know my Father was 5ft 10 peak (although he has always maintained his army measured height of 5ft 9.75), mother around 5ft 5 peak.

Sometimes you scratch your head at children heights.

For instance here is my Father beside a couple: Click Here. The lady beside my Father was 5ft 4 and her husband on far left was 5ft 5-5.5 range, yet they had 4 sons about 5ft 10 to 6ft range.
Connor Simpson said on 13/Aug/19
@c-mo you act like you know everything Mr Know it all, let people have their opinions about heights they are entitled to them and you were out of line for what you said about us, if you reply to me again im not even going to bother messaging you back, ive got better things to do with my time than waste it on toxic people like you, you're a waste of space.
ajax509 said on 13/Aug/19
What do you guys think of my height chart, was it accurate to you? To be fair, I only include white males (caucasian) who are let's say younger than 40.
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ajax509 said on 10/Aug/19
When we speak in terms of young adults (afternoon height) this would be my classification:

very tall 190cm
tall 187cm
tallish 184cm
average 178cm
shortish 172cm
short 169cm
very short 166cm
Connor Simpson said on 13/Aug/19
@c-mo so were deluded for having an opinion are we? Lol whatever dude
ajax509 said on 13/Aug/19
Bobby's 179.1cm first thing so he's exactly 0.8cm taller than you c-mo.
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c-mo said on 12/Aug/19
@Bobby . I like you as a poster but this is ridiculous ....you can not put 170 – 175/176 in the same category wtf .

you are only 1cm or 1.3cm or so taller than me and you say you are above average and in the same category with 181cm men but I am in the same category with 170cm men ? really ? dude wtf .....
ajax509 said on 13/Aug/19
For 'Mr. Napoleon, PA' it's even worse than offending his mother LOL
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Greg said on 12/Aug/19
@Canson Yeah don’t get me wrong it’s a cool website and all but too much toxicity and stupidity over there. I feel like the term manlet is always thrown out there just like certain morons on here
pov said on 12/Aug/19
Hi Rob, I’m 6”0.5 and a half and my uncle is 5”10.5 but he always looks taller than me in photos even though im clearly 2 inches taller than him. Why is this? I must admit I do slouch slightly but not a lot and he has a straight posture, he’s also bald so it helps him look taller because people see the top of his head instead of his forehead
Editor Rob
That seems bizarre, you must really have terrible stances in photos to be able to look shorter.

Maybe work a bit on posture or remember to stand taller if you want to look taller, though some people have a natural tendency to slouch in photos.
Myself said on 12/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
Well, I only saw about 3 guys around 2+ meters in the last year.
c-mo said on 12/Aug/19
@Bobby . I like you as a poster but this is ridiculous ....you can not put 170 – 175/176 in the same category wtf .

you are only 1cm or 1.3cm or so taller than me and you say you are above average and in the same category with 181cm men but I am in the same category with 170cm men ? really ? dude wtf .....

yes 5’11 is more desirable than 5‘9 but the average height is around 5’10 or so for europe and the western world (without elderly men ) so take 1 inch above and below and that makes 5‘9 – 5’11 the average range . also 5‘9 is not a bad height either ....5’11 is of course a lot better and one of the best heights imo but 5‘9 is still a decent height and both are equally far from the mean average height . you might argue that nowdays for certain places the average is closer to 5’11 than 5‘9 ...ok ....but still when we count all european countries and not only the taller ones then 5’10 seems about right

and you do know that I am closer to 180cm than to 170cm right ? I wake at 178.3cm and I am 177.5cm so (basically only a hair under 5’10) after being awake for 30 mins to 1 hour or so . and even in the evening I am a little above 175cm so how can you put me in the same category with 170cm ? even 174cm is not in the same category as 170cm ....why ? ....because 174cm is 3-4cm below average while 170cm is 7-8cm below average . it is not the same . a 175cm is pretty medium height and will look fairly average while 170cm is rather short and will not look average except sometimes .it is not THAT short but it is definitely on the shorter side . the difference between 170cm and 175cm is higher than between 175cm and 180cm because at 175cm you are only a bit below the mean but at 170cm you are strongly below the mean

it is actually very outrageous of you to put yourself in the above average category along with 181cm men but putting 175cm and even 176cm men in the same category with 170cm men despite you being only a bit taller than 175cm men let alone 176


@Connor Simpson

1. the average height for greeks is 5’10 not 5‘8-5‘9

2. 6‘0 is 2 inches above average not 3-4 inches

3. 6‘0 is not tall . it is above average but not solid tall . you need to be a t least 6‘0.5 at the bare minimum to be tall and even then you are on the very start of being solid tall because actuall tall is 185cm + . 182-183cm is above average but not tall . it is similar to 173-174cm ...173-174cm is below average and maybe slightly shortish (especially 173cm) but not „short“ just like how 182-183cm (especially 182cm) is above average and tallish but not „tall“ . if you cal 6‘0 tall then you have to call 5‘8 short . some of you guys are a bit deluded thinking 5‘8 is average.. no offense . average height is 177-178cm at night
ajax509 said on 12/Aug/19
Last year, I bumped into a man (around 25-30y/o) who stood well over 7 feet. I know for sure because he was walking with a 5ft 8 range guy who didn't come up to his shoulder level.
Literally, folk around wiped their eyes. 👀
Probably one of the tallest persons in Europe!

And yeah... when I observe the city I find 6ft 7+ men every day. Then again, I've never made it across the pond.
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Greg said on 11/Aug/19
@Jddubz I beg to differ maybe that’s just your gym, I don’t know any 6’7 guys off of the top of my head. 6’7 is a very rare height. There used to be a guy at my gym who’s around your height maybe a bit taller and he hasn’t showed up in a while. I did see a 6’8-6’9 guy once at my gym it was a Young kid too but that was the first time I ever saw that. Otherwise it would be once a year at an airport or something I’ll see a 6’7-6’8 guy. While not impossible but a 6’7 guy can go almost years without seeing someone their height or taller at least in America when I say their height I mean 6’6ish-6’7 not like 6’4-5 those heights while rare are a bit more common than the latter. Maybe in Europe it’s different as the men there are taller than average certainty in a Dutch or Nordic Country. For instance, I’m visiting Switzerland and Austria and I’ve seen a couple 6’4-6’6 guys but only a handful this is more than i see back in the United States.
K.A 188 ! said on 12/Aug/19
@MYSELF
I live in Parma
Greg said on 12/Aug/19
@Canson Yeah don’t get me wrong it’s a cool website and all but too much toxicity and stupidity over there. I feel like the term manlet is always thrown out there just like certain morons on here
Sakz said on 12/Aug/19
@Connor Simpson I know I said it's the start of tall.
Ben said on 12/Aug/19
@Jdubbz - lol no, I measured him.
Nik Ashton said on 11/Aug/19
@ Connor Simpson - Too true!
Myself said on 11/Aug/19
@K.A
Ah ok. But I guess the afro also makes you look taller too.
I personally don't think I have really good tall/lanky proportions or anything, despite me being now at my all-time (adult life of course) low of 93 kg, but I still got guessed today for the third time above 2 meters (lol, at 192.5-8 cm, although I often am around 193.1 when i come back from a 1-1.5 hour walk 5 hours out of bed). Of course those weren't the most deeply thought guesses ever, nor they were given by the most "competent" guessers, but still, dam... (Btw I was also casually guessed at around 2 meters like 3 other times, but yeah, lol)

In which Italian city do you live? I am in Rimini.
Luca said on 11/Aug/19
Dear Rob, I ascertained that my extreme low height is basically a hair over 188,7 cm, which I reached twice or max 3 times in over a year.
Since that what height should I claim to be if someone asks to me?
Editor Rob
Still say 189cm. Even saying 190cm won't raise eyebrows.

188cm would be too low a claim I feel, you'd get far more people raising their eyebrows if you say that.
Prog King said on 11/Aug/19
@c-mo, i agree with this, but i would bump it up to 185 cm when taking into account young white men. At 6'0 i definetely feel in that transition zone a good number of times. With lifts i get up to 6'1 and definetly feel tall walking around, not the tallest in the room, but still tall enough for daily life
Nik said on 11/Aug/19
@ K.A 188 ! - I agree!
K.A 188 ! said on 11/Aug/19
@CHRISTIAN
I think when measuring yes it does add a bit because the ruler does not rest on the scalp. But with a stadiometer that can compress the hair and touch the scalp then the measurement should be more precise.
Greg said on 11/Aug/19
@Pov I agree the Dutch are insanely tall every other guy i saw whilst in Amsterdam was over 6’0, in Austria/Bavaria guys are also really tall I felt barely average at 5’10.5 179cm, sometimes above other times very low if not average. There where many 6 footers I think you would have to be a minimum of 6’0 to feel above average and 6’1-6’2 to feel tall.
Greg said on 11/Aug/19
@Canson the one that I responded to you.

@Jddubz I beg to differ maybe that’s just your gym, I don’t know any 6’7 guys off of the top of my head. 6’7 is a very rare height. There used to be a guy at my gym who’s around your height maybe a bit taller and he hasn’t showed up in a while. I did see a 6’8-6’9 guy once at my gym it was a Young kid too but that was the first time I ever saw that. Otherwise it would be once a year at an airport or something I’ll see a 6’7-6’8 guy. While not impossible but a 6’7 guy can go almost years without seeing someone their height or taller at least in America when I say their height I mean 6’6ish-6’7 not like 6’4-5 those heights while rare are a bit more common than the latter. Maybe in Europe it’s different as the men there are taller than average certainty in a Dutch or Nordic Country. For instance, I’m visiting Switzerland and Austria and I’ve seen a couple 6’4-6’6 guys but only a handful this is more than i see back in the United States.
Bobby 178cm said on 11/Aug/19
@C-Mo

I wouldn't class 175 and 181 in the same category honestly. A good solid 5'11 is going to be seen as much more desirable a height to be as opposed to 5'9 even if the difference is 2 inches. On that same note, I would classify 170-175 as medium, maybe 176 at a push. I would classify 177 to 181 as above average and 182 up to 186 as tall.
Importer said on 11/Aug/19
Sorry bad English on my last comment, I only meant to say that it’s untold of.
K.A 188 ! said on 11/Aug/19
@REDWING
I remember very well my height in 2014 summer because it was during the fifa world cup.
I was 16 going to 17 years, I measured 181cm before school ended and 3 months after in september I measure 186cm barefoot and weighed 5 kg more.
Then from 17 to 19 I added full inch measuring 188.4 at noon.
I was always tallish in my early things but really grew more in my late teens. Between i am not American, i am an Italian citizen as i explained in my previous post.
K.A 188 ! said on 11/Aug/19
@REDWING
I remember very well my height in 2014 summer because it was during the fifa world cup.
I was 16 going to 17 years, I measured 181cm before school ended and 3 months after in september I measure 186cm barefoot and weighed 5 kg more.
Then from 17 to 19 I added full inch measuring 188.4 at noon.
I was always tallish in my early things but really grew more in my late teens. Between i am not American, i am an Italian citizen as i explained in my previous post.
Johan 185 cm said on 11/Aug/19
Canson said on 8/Aug/19
I saw something very interesting today in an article. The seven countries with the tallest people

Czech Republic, Latvia, Estonia, Belgium, Serbia, Denmark, Netherlands (back to front). So I guess what someone said earlier about the Netherlands having that is the truth

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Yes and thats what I have said many times here on General. I work in Belgium and out of the neighbouring countries they are the tallest compared to The Netherlands.

Although Flanders is taller than Wallonia. I guessed their height as 5'10.5" in Flanders and 5'9.5" in Wallonia. The women average 5'5.5"-5'6".
Canson said on 11/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: yea in my case 6’7” would be too tall. Doorways mainly but also tighter fits in vehicles and headroom. I think once you get over 6’2” it gets more expensive. Even a very long legged 6’2” guy may have to shop at a big and tall and have a hard time if he’s built like I am at 6’4”
Canson said on 11/Aug/19
@Ben: your friend looks like he has the proportions of a 6’4-6’5 range guy too. Although he is pretty thin as well
Canson said on 11/Aug/19
@Greg: I feel you about Bodybuilding.com. I’m on that site myself and I see a lot of guys there that act out
Canson said on 11/Aug/19
@Greg: lol no problem! Which post?
Greg said on 11/Aug/19
@Importer 720’s look sick honestly, they won’t be hard to walk in and nah they give as much of the boost because most shoes with flexible heels don’t make you walk shorter, even after wear and tear they will probably give you about 1.5 inches which is more than Shox I might get a pair they look comfortable.
Editor Rob

If you want a decent boost of height, they are comfortable sneakers.
Greg said on 11/Aug/19
@Jddubz you see what I mean though? 👀😂 now another thing that I find funny is Arthur wants to come at me for that yet let’s not forget he was the one who got banned before for calling a user a manlet. This isn’t the misc teen section of Bodybuilding.com like this is celeb heights for Christ sake. So why is it not okay for Arthur to use that term but not Ajax. Not that I care because it’s an ironic/moronic statement at that point but seriously #Double standards if I could locate Big G in the streets of New York i would let him loose here to sort anybody and everybody out.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Aug/19
@K.A
Did hair have any affect on your measurement? It didn't with me. One point I had long hair, almost an afro but not quite, and at one point was almost bald, but no difference between the two measurements.
Redwing said on 10/Aug/19
KA 188@

That is a tall height, And a cool mix of ethnic groups that you are tbh. How tall were you tho at the age of 18? I was sorta average standing at 180 cm. Now I’m 3 inches taller, Are you an US citizen?
Importer said on 10/Aug/19
Do you guys believe that bright NBA players are given access to additional HGH hormones during peak of puberty to grow to around 7’0”? It’s untold of but I only heard this.
Importer said on 10/Aug/19
Do you guys believe that nba players use additional hgh during peak of puberty to grow to around 7’0”? It’s untold of but I only heard this.
Ben said on 10/Aug/19
@Cmillz - He does look very tall and is called very tall by most even in Sweden. He's currently shooting season 2 of a tv show and said he was guessed as 6'5" a few days ago by the crew. He has a v-shape body with very broad shoulders which might help him look very tall.

Here's a still from the show where he's in a crowd from season 1(he's on the far left): Click Here

Here's a video of him in that crowd: Click Here

And here's a picture which shows you he's a broad guy and pretty muscular: Click Here

As a bonus here's my friend who's an actual 6'4.5"-6'4.75" guy (that guy is heading into that extremely tall range with boots on). He might be just about a cm, or a few mm under a cm, taller than @Canson: Click Here
Importer said on 10/Aug/19
Ouch wasn’t aware of the drama.
c-mo said on 10/Aug/19
height chart for men . I am VERY sure that it is realistic give or take a bit

all heights are supposed to be evening heights and centimeters and it is meant to be for caucasian males between ages 20 - 50 or so :


the heights where I didnt write anything about are meant to be "borderline/transition heights" between the both categories that are above / below them


220 + : big giant . at this height there is a big chance that your height is known in your country or even worldwide . "even" at 218cm the dutch giant is known . needless to say that at such extreme heights there will be a handful of people on the whole world that will be around your height

218 - 219 :

211 - 217 : "small" (lol) giant

209 - 210 :

202 - 208 : huge or unusually tall

200 - 201 :

193 - 199 : very tall

191 - 192 :

184 - 190 : tall

182 - 183 :

175 - 181 : Medium

173 - 174 :

166 - 172 : short

164 - 165 :

158 - 163 : very short

156 - 157 :

149 - 155 : extremely short

147 - 148 : borderline dwarf

below 147 : dwarfism


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the transition zones of each 2cm are good becuase they allow you make proper categories where you transition smoothly without the problem of jumping from one category into another without having a buffer zone .
Jdubbz said on 10/Aug/19
@Greg: 6’7 isn’t as rare as you think, and at that point each additional inch becomes exponentially rarer. At my gym alone I usually see a guy my height, a 6’7 range guy and a guy who has me by 2-3 inches. These are the only people of that size I regularly see, but a 6’7 guy wouldn’t have to go years to see someone his height or taller.
Connor Simpson said on 10/Aug/19
@Sakz Of course 6'0 is tall theres no doubt about it, it's like 3-4 inches above the average height, at least 3 inches.
pov said on 10/Aug/19
@c-mo whilst I was at university, I did my work placement year in the Netherlands in a city called Breda (Near Rotterdam) I was there for 14 months. I am from the UK and I’m 184cm barefoot most of the day, I lived in a student accommodation with 3 dutch flatmates and 1 Bulgarian one, all of my dutch flatmates were taller than me, I asked how tall they were and they all gave heights ranging from 186cm-194. Even when attending meetings and walking in the street, I was slightly below average. If you have never been there it is hard to believe the average height of a country is so much more than the rest of the world , but I suggest you visit, Amsterdam won’t really give you a good idea as it’s full of tourists and multicultural. Try going Rotterdam, Breda, Eidenhoven, Utrecht, and you will understand they are a nation of giants!
Jdubbz said on 10/Aug/19
@Canson: We probably disagree on this point, but I’d rather be too tall (within reason) than not tall enough and try to compensate via artificial means. I’d choose 6’7 over anything under 6’2 and 6’8 over
Lell said on 10/Aug/19
In my opinion I'd call 6'2" tall.

6'0" is definitely above average and you will be one of the taller ones most of the time, but it's not tall enough to be considered "The tall guy" really.

My opinion of tall is when you kind of stand out more, get more comments and usually is the tallest in the room, which I guess happens at 6'2" more often. 6'/6'1" is more tallish.

In other countries I would definitely say that 180 cm+ is tall. I traveled recently and I was legit one of the tallest around tourists (I'm between 179-80 cm) which was a huge difference compared to where I come from where most are my height.

So if you're short: Move to another country, simple XD
ajax509 said on 10/Aug/19
When we speak in terms of young adults (afternoon height) this would be my classification:

very tall 190cm
tall 187cm
tallish 184cm
average 178cm
shortish 172cm
short 169cm
very short 166cm
Jug said on 9/Aug/19
Rob,

If my elevator boots make me 6'5, how tall would I appear to most people--6'4? Do we generally take into consideration that everyone around us is already wearing about an inch over their barefoot height? I guess typical footwear makes most men three quarters of an inch to an inch taller.
Editor Rob
Yes, you definitely would look that kind of 6ft 4 range to most people, even taller at times from people who aren't aware of a genuine 6ft 4.
mrtguy said on 9/Aug/19
Rob, how tall does the guy look on the left to you??
Click Here
Editor Rob
Looks over 5 inches taller than the shorter fellow, so over average range
Jdubbz said on 9/Aug/19
@cmillzz: yeah I find it hard to believe as well. Perhaps Ben is underestimating others and the “6’2” guys he’s seeing are really like 6’4 or 6’5. Otherwise it makes no sense, since 6’2 is just tall in the US and probably the equivalent of 6’0-6’1 in Sweden. That’s a far cry from very tall.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Aug/19
@Canson
I've never imagined that Czech Republic and Belgium are in the top 7 tallest countries. I thought it would've been the Scandinavian countries like Norway, Sweden or Finland. Surprised that none of the three are on the list.
LDS said on 9/Aug/19
@Nik. That's probably about right to be fair as I think it works out at just over 5 foot 5 for 10% percentile. That height and below always comes across as very small for a guy.

It really is all semantics though to be honest. I don't personally but you could technically argue that 5 foot 10 for a guy is "tall". 5 foot 10 is more than the average height which is literally the definition of "tall" (heights based on the UK). However nobody is going to look at a guy who's 5 foot 10 and say "wow he's tall".
Ellis said on 9/Aug/19
@Canson: I meant wouldn't it, I was trying to imply that 6'7 is the height that would be taller than every single girl with heels, not 5'9 lmao, just in case you didn't get it, my bad.
@Christian 6'5 3/8: Yeah I'm starting to agree with you, I would definitely take 6'7 over 5'9, for 6'8 that is kinda a toss up, but I would still probably go with 6'8. Idk, maybe if 5'9 was higher to like 6'2, because I would probably take 6'10 over 5'9 tbch.
mrfunnyguy said on 9/Aug/19
@cmillzz I agree with you that 6'2 isn't "very tall", but merely "tall". Since most people wouldn't even call 6'2 "very tall" in the US, 6'4 can't be called "very tall" in Sweden, because the difference in average height between the US and Sweden is about two inches I think. I assume "very tall" in the US starts at 6'3, which means that "very tall" in Sweden must be 6'5 and taller.
Jdubbz said on 9/Aug/19
@Greg: Lmao I’ll admit to that 😂😂😂
Importer said on 9/Aug/19
@Arthur! I agree I like celebh's pg factor.
Importer said on 9/Aug/19
@cmillzz I seen those 720s, imo looks a bit weird. I think your going to walk shorter in those due to its flexible heel.
Sakz said on 9/Aug/19
@K.A 188! You could make a case for that aswell considering it's very close to 6'0. Most in that position would also just claim 6'0.
Sakz said on 9/Aug/19
@Prog King Yeah that's about right. I would say 6'0 is just the start of tall.
K.A 188 ! said on 9/Aug/19
@MYSELF
My measurements are all before i grew my hair. When i kept my hair short and trim . But is been over a almost a year ever since i measured myself.
Straightout out of bed i am 190.1 and my absolute lowest i have ever measured after 8 hours of work is usually 187.6 .I have a wardrobe that measures exactly 192.5 so i often marked my height on it ,so am few milimeters over 6ft2 during the day at 188.4 .
I did atletica(track and field sports) while growing up as teenager so maybe that helped in growing, i am in my early twenties now though.

I am actually a Mulatto (half Italian and Nigerian) so i got the nice afro. ...but i just happen to look like an afro Brazilian or Dominican lol..anyways as I have said before i don't even consider myself very tall but at times i can really stand out i just feel like 6ft2 is the begining of "standing out " is like
a "bridge height " if you have a nice proportion like in my case broad shoulders and long wingspan (My wingspan is 201cm which is equivalent to Michael Phelps's wingspan)
So in my opinion proportion play a big role in what we perceive as tall.
Connor Simpson said on 9/Aug/19
@Greg Exactly Arthur has done worse things than what you said about the d**k thing, Arthur is such a massive hypocrite he's a joke.
Greg said on 9/Aug/19
@Importer Yeah me too probably 6’2.5 at a compromise though if I was 6’1 range I wouldn’t mind at all.
Greg said on 9/Aug/19
@cmillzz Lol Ben’s right, 6’2 is a very tall height. It’s not extremely uncommon but how many 6’2 people do you know and see every day? I have friends who are 6’2 range and they get referred to as very tall. That’s over 5 inches the U.S male average.
Johan 185 cm said on 9/Aug/19
Csimpson6ft said on 4/Aug/19
What grade do you guys think my height is? Id give it a B+ i feel 6'0 is a fairly good height but it's nothing special, an A+ for me would be 6'1 or 6'2, definitely 6'2.

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I agree with 6' being B+ but I would make a range say :

6'-6'1 B+
6'1'-6'2" A
6'2"-6'3" A+

And then going back so

6'3-6'4" A
6'4-6'5" B+

So maybe 6'5-6'6" would be a B and also 5'11"-6'.

6'6-6'7" and 5'10-5'11" being C+ and the last heights I personally wouldn't mind being.
K.A 188 ! said on 9/Aug/19
@Cmillzz
how tall are you?
Canson said on 9/Aug/19
@Cmillz: there are a lot of ways to look taller. That’s why I’ve always been an advocate of it’s harder to lose height than gain
Emil said on 9/Aug/19
@LDS

I agree - the 90% percentile in Denmark is 190 cm for men (which is probably 189 at normal low since most people are measured earlier in the day), and I really don't think you stand out in terms of height until you hit that mark.
I myself measured 184 cm last time I went to the doctor, but I claim 183 since that's my normal low, and that corresponds to the 68-69 % percentile here in Denmark.
Greg said on 9/Aug/19
@Christian aren’t you still a towering giant at 6’7? You could walk around for years and not find anyone taller than you. I think the jump from 6’7-6’8 isn’t much both are very tall heights.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Aug/19
@Jdubbz
Sorry if I misunderstood you. I swear that I read "6'2-6'3" instead of "6'1-6'2" in one of your posts though.
Greg said on 9/Aug/19
@Canson sorry that lost post was meant to go to you not Christian I was half asleep and got your names mixed up lol.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Aug/19
@cmillzz
True, and I'd go as far as to say that people are getting less height aware, if anything. Height inflation seems to be getting worse as the decades go by. Older people are more honest about their height, from what I've seen.
Jdubbz said on 9/Aug/19
@Bobby 178cm:

And that makes perfect sense since you’re accustomed to being 5’10. 6’6 would be a totally different experience. For me I’d rather stay my current height than drop down to 5’10, cause it would obviously be very weird for me to drop 8 inches. For a 6’2 guy (right in between those heights), I imagine it’s a much harder choice.
Jdubbz said on 9/Aug/19
@Bobby 178cm:

And that makes perfect since you’re accustomed to being 5’10. 6’6 would be a totally different experience. For me I’d rather stay my current height than drop down to 5’10, cause it would obviously be very weird for me to drop 8 inches. For a 6’2 guy (right in between those heights), I imagine it’s a much harder choice.
ajax509 said on 8/Aug/19
@Antonio55
Yohan Blake was never a holder of anything, Jamaican U20 😂 come one.
cmillzz said on 8/Aug/19
@Canson
You’d easily pull off looking 6’5 in a pair of 720s. Pretty wild the amount of height those give.
cmillzz said on 8/Aug/19
I’d just call 6’2 tall, nothing else.
cmillzz said on 8/Aug/19
@Ben
Find it very hard to believe most Swedish people would refer to a 6’2 guy as “very tall”. Even here in the US, I’ve never heard of anyone call a 6’2 guy very tall, because it simply isn’t a very tall height.
Nik Ashton said on 8/Aug/19
@ LDS - Then small should be 10% percentile and down.
Prog King said on 8/Aug/19
@LDS i agree with this, when you are 6'1 or near enough it you are legit tall. I am 6'0 and just feel borderline tall.
@Sakz i think you are start of tall, as i recall you saying you are around 185 cm or 6'0.75?
Canson said on 8/Aug/19
@CSimpson: he sorta towered me Connor. But not extremely. I think a best case is 204 range. Not sure about a full 205. He easily had 4” on me and I had on sneaks and so did he. I would say even footwear. It could’ve been maybe a bit over 4” which would put him at 6’8.5-.75 perhaps or maybe just 6’8.25 but he was relatively honest either way because even at the lower, he would still measure 6’9” in the AM and I could easily see someone that size lose an inch. He at least said 6’8/6’9 and not 6’9”
Ellis said on 8/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: Lol, and yeah I completely agree, I think that tall starts at 6'1-6'2, 6'2-3 is already solidly tall. I did a height chart down below, although it might be biased because I'm extremely tall, I thought it to be correct. I remember being each height, and frankly it was not too long ago that I was those heights, I remember being 14 at 5'9 and most of my friends were taller than me by an inch or two, and now I'm taller than every childhood friend I know except for one that had a monster growth spurt like me, and is an inch taller than me. But he was always like 4 inches taller than me until about 15-16 when I started catching up, and now it is an inch difference.
@Canson: Altered footwear would suck big time lmao, and wouldn't be cool to be taller than every single girl wearing high heels lol, even the 'very tall' ones that are like 5'9 at most and claim 5'11.
Canson said on 8/Aug/19
@Ellis: yea that’s about right. I’d probably be roughly 7cm shorter than you are. That’s probably just a little more than an inch between you too. The guy that was in the store probably has you by 3-4 cm. He may have been at least a very strong 6’8” or best weak 6’9”. Youre about 200.66 at a flat 6’7”
Canson said on 8/Aug/19
I saw something very interesting today in an article. The seven countries with the tallest people

Czech Republic, Latvia, Estonia, Belgium, Serbia, Denmark, Netherlands (back to front). So I guess what someone said earlier about the Netherlands having that is the truth
K.A 188 ! said on 8/Aug/19
@Everyone...
In my opinion tall starts at 182cm.Or 5ft11 and half.
Importer said on 8/Aug/19
@Greg I'll take 6'2"-6'3" anyday.
Connor Simpson said on 8/Aug/19
Oh BTW Arthur the average height for Greeks is 5'8-5'9 not 6'0, but yeah get your facts right.
Connor Simpson said on 8/Aug/19
@Canson I would say 5'11.5 is more tallish or borderline tall but I respect your opinion, for me tall starts at 6'0.
Connor Simpson said on 8/Aug/19
Lol you're one to talk Arthur, what about you? Remember when you used to keep picking on Bobby and winding him up, you did this with other posters too and you enjoyed doing it because you love making them angry and get a reaction out of them, you get a kick out that don't you?

What you say is inconsistent, seriously you're such a hypocrite you don't mean any of it, you're also a sad insecure person, that's why you do that, it's not their fault that you're a s*** human being, aww what's wrong? you're still worried about everyone calling you out on your height? What happened to your 5'10.5 claim?

I heard you are saying you are barely that height now so that just proves my point, that's why you're not posting any proof of your height on here because deep down you know you're not as tall as you say you are, I wouldn't be surprised if you're only in the 5'9 range, why don't you do us all a favor and do something proactive that will benefit you like finding that cure for your hair loss and do some research on the Greek average height because it's not 6'0, that's incorrect 6'0 is not average anywhere except for in the Netherlands. You must not have any brain cells, thats one of the reasons that explains why you're so dumb.

Oh yeah next time think before you speak ok? Otherwise don't bother posting comments again, besides it's not like you have any fans on here is it?
Greg said on 8/Aug/19
@!Arthur also forgot to mention, you’ve been out of hand. Everything you say is either trolling or just trying to downgrade people. Besides your information has been inconsistent you don’t even realize what you’re talking about I’m not going on a rant just because we don’t like each other doesn’t give you the right to spew bs. Your opinion isn’t needed here.
Greg said on 8/Aug/19
@Canson yeah I mean that’s why I say tallish, anything at least an inch more than average I think can fit so 5’10.5 is 1.5 inches above the 5’9 average. 5’11 of course is tallish as it’s around 2 inches over average if not a bit more. I mean some people would consider 5’11.5+ as tall but also from 6’4 it would be a little different but yeah I usually look 5’11 to others most people guess me at 5’11/6’0 my proportions help and yeah lifts are usually too much for me I could wear a thick pair of boots and be 6’0 in them so I could appear a legit 5’11 there and yeah you could probably pull off 6’5-6’6 with lifts and right footwear.
Greg said on 8/Aug/19
@Arthur@Rob@Jdubbz Hey I wasn’t the one that brought it up, Jddubz did lol, I usually keep it G you know that’s the first letter of my name. Rob knows Jddubz brought it up and even as a joke that still was out of line I just added spice to the mixture kind of like the time Rob jokes saying they don’t just call him big Rob for his height 😂 he’s got jokes and so do i, he understands. Arthur so If anything Direct it towards J as well. I know you like like to come out of your cave from time to time to stir the pot but I assure you won’t find the missing link there. Always looking for trouble, but no matter how hard you look it won’t make Bobby 5’9.5. Nor will you find the special hair growth formula. It’s a shame this site has changed over the years and there’s more toxicity and arguments, I don’t understand why everyone can’t just get along? I’m just done dealing with idiots I mean if they can’t even comprehend basic information what is the use in trying to reason them. This is worse than the Ultimate A-hole case.
Bobby 178cm said on 7/Aug/19
@Canson

Honestly, I'd remain 5'10 if I had a choice of 6'6 as that's over the ideal height, in my preferences, but if you gave me a choice of 6'4 over 5'10, it'd be a bit of a toss up but I'd select to be 6'4, and if you brought the choice down to 6'3, the choice gets easier. Generally though, I think a solid 6'0 is an all-around good height to be.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 7/Aug/19
@Canson
Choosing between 5'9" and 6'7" is difficult for me too, but I'd choose 6'7". If it was between 6'8" and 5'9" though, I'll go with 5'9". I'd rather be average than a towering giant.
Daycringeothon said on 7/Aug/19
I heard that male to female transsexuals before going on hormone replacement therapy are taller by an inch. Then when nearly finished and by that time technically a pseudo woman some extra height shrinkage. I have no proof but it could be fact.
LDS said on 7/Aug/19
What counts as tall for me I would say is probably heights of round about 90% percentile and up. In the UK 90% percentile would give you roughly 5'7 1/2 for women and just under 6 foot 1 for men apparently. There's a whole variety of things that can change your perception on this though with your own height being a major one as pointed out by Christian.

I also believe a lot of people think they're taller than they actually are too which doesn't help with perception of height and what's tall etc.
Antonio55 said on 7/Aug/19
@ajax509 Of course record holder doesn't have to mean world record holder. Have you never heard of European record holder, U21 record holder, national record holder and so on?

Blake is listed at 177, which only emphasises my point that on average sprinters are not very tall
Myself said on 7/Aug/19
@K.A
How do you even measure with an afro?
Jdubbz said on 7/Aug/19
@Ellis: That’s pretty damn crazy. I was 2.5” taller than you at age 14, but you still ended up 1.25” taller than me. A lot of my growth happened this year from 21-22, so you could end up towering me some day 😂
Jdubbz said on 7/Aug/19
@Christian: I disagree only because I don’t consider someone under my eye level to be tall. I realize that’s very biased, and I understand that most people don’t feel the same way. I wouldn’t set the threshold as high as 6’2 or 6’3 though, more like 6’1-6’2.
Mark Warren said on 7/Aug/19
@Christian Yes, also the taller people get, the taller their perceived 'ideal' height tends to be.
Ellis said on 7/Aug/19
@Canson: That's pretty cool, to have someone ask that person his height. Like I said before, I don't really get asked my height that much, maybe once or twice a day not in confrontations. However, if someone starts talking to me then they will almost always ask the question. You would probably stand a bit above my eyebrows, and I'm probably about an inch shorter than that guy.

Also, I'm pretty bad at height inferences in person, but I'm really good when I see pictures. I met two guys that claimed 6'8, very big guys, I felt quite a bit shorter, then we took a picture, and the difference was about 3 quarters of an inch. I was the same height as one of em, but 3 quarters shorter than the other one. It's funny how they could barely dunk and I was doing windmills in slow motion. The difference between the taller one was really small, definitely less than an inch.
Greg said on 7/Aug/19
@cmillzz Perhaps and frankly I don’t care but that’s me expressing when I think somebody is being moronic and crossing the line. Celeb heights isn’t meant to be for arguments but general height discussions. However people never learn.
Greg said on 7/Aug/19
@Christian it’s all subjective for me based on American standards. 5’8-5’9 low average 5’10.5-5’11.5 tallish, 6’0-6’1 legit tall, 6’1-6’2 pretty tall, 6’3-6’4 very tall anything over 6’4 you’re standout tall, 6’6+ extremely tall. Most would agree with me.

@Canson Maybe i’ve Not looked much into bolt but I think he could have lost some height.

@Importer Bruh you’re taller than me, if you really don’t like your height trade with me 😏 but you’d probably hate that. 6’0 would be nice and 6’2 is the tallest I wouldn’t mind being.
Myself said on 7/Aug/19
@K.A
Yeah my parents are similar in height to yours too. My father had 185 as his official height until like maybe his mid to late 50s; now he has 183 cm. I don't know if he ever was even 183 or how tall exactly he is now in reality (his posture is terrible and I rarely see him). My mother on the other hand has always claimed 168-169 cm, and recently at almost 60 yo i measured her at 167-167.5 at night. I'm kinda lucky to be 192.5-8 cm.

Btw recently I met a guy that was probably your height or 1-2 cm max taller and he claimed 196 cm, lol.


And hmm...10 cm means he is above your eye level...I don't feel like I really tower in that situation (I would call it partial towering).
Canson said on 7/Aug/19
@Greg: I would say for me and I’m not as conservative as others in that aspect that I see that height as getting tall, that it is a slightly above average height. Other taller guys don’t see it but I have a friend who is a solid 6’0” at a low and he actually looks tall in person. But with the right footwear and proportions you could pull off a taller look. 5’11 is easy to look at your size if you threw in maybe an orthotic and some very thick footwear. If you’re at a low 5’10 1/4-3/8 that’s similar to how I could pull off 6‘6 in shoes and look a legit 6’5” to some if I’m in a pair of thick boots in an orthotic. I would consider tall more like 5’11.5 and above. Some day 6’0” but a well proportioned 5’11.5 with good posture especially in a good pair of sneaks like Jordan’s can look 6’0” without trying.
Arthur! said on 7/Aug/19
Rob, are you even reading the comments you approve? Greg has been getting really out of hand lately. These aren't comments, they are delusional rants. He is talking about measuring d*cks for God's sake!
Editor Rob
Yeah, it is stretching the bounds of respect (from a few folk).

I would hope they can reign in some of their comments and remember to try to keep things pg.
cmillzz said on 7/Aug/19
@K.A
Think it’s all in your head. Most people in the real world aren’t very height aware at all.
Ben said on 7/Aug/19
@ajax509 - ahaha that gave me a good laugh 😂
Csimpson6ft said on 7/Aug/19
@Canson So he was like 6'8.5 or something? How did you feel next to someone that tall? It's pretty rare to see guys of that height, if someone was 4.5-5 inches taller than me i feel they somewhat tower over me but when someone is 6 or 8 inches taller than me thats when i really start to feel short, a few months ago in the bus station there was this one time when i saw this burly bald guy with a beard he was definitely the tallest guy that ive stood next to so far he had to be 6'10.5 at least 6'10, the top of his shoulder was right at the middle of my forehead, it seemed like he was somewhere in the 6'10 range thats what i estimate him at, the guy was huge and i felt like a shrimp stood next to him lol.
Canson said on 7/Aug/19
@Greg: I think for Bolt that it may be due to his scoliosis. He may actually be as low as 192 now though based on how he looks with both Kobe and Barkley, as well as Peyton Manning and Michael Jordan
Greg said on 7/Aug/19
@cmillzz higher chance of Clooney being a flat 5’10 than Pitt 5’10.25 or Gosling 5’11.5.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 7/Aug/19
@Ellis
I've noticed that most tall guys here (except for Canson and I) set a higher standard when considering someone tall. Jdubbz I think doesn't consider anyone under 6'2" or 6'3" as tall, and a former poster named Jason 193cm had a similar opinion as well. My definition of tall is anything above 6'0", but most tall guys here seem to disagree.
Canson said on 6/Aug/19
@Mark Warren: I agree! And very difficult. I’d take 5’9 over 6’7” honestly. And 6’6 vs 5’10 major tossup. It’s only 2” taller than I am now but that’s a major inconvenience to be that tall as I see friends that are and deal with it. Lol if I were 5’10” I could at least look taller if I altered footwear. Hell guys do it all the time
Canson said on 6/Aug/19
@Ellis: I would take 5’9” over 6’7”. I throw some lifts on and I can look taller. Or wear thick footwear all the time. At 6’7” I would have to try to wear very very flat shoes just to avoid doorways
Sakz said on 6/Aug/19
@Csimpson6ft I think people usually base their 'perfect height' on what looks good aesthetically and ideal for day to day life (so not too tall or short). I also don't believe in a perfect height but rather an ideal range, which for me is anything from 5'11-6'2 if you want to be tall without standing out.

@c-mo I understand what you mean. As for lankiness yeah it will be more obvious the taller you are, and bad posture associated with very tall heights also makes it very apparent.
Canson said on 6/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: The wife and I went to the grocery store yesterday and I ran into a guy that from a distance I figured to be at least 6’11 maybe 7’. Turns out getting closer to him that he’s only probably 6’8-6’9 tops when I walked right past him. He had very long hair and very good posture matching mine which is impressive for someone that tall. Normally it takes a person that type of height to have to adjust their posture stand straight for me to believe them. I’d hear someone say they are 6’7” and they look max 6’5-6’6” but then stand straight and it’s different. And then heard someone ask and he said “about 6’8/6’9”. Not a bad estimate just eyeballing pretty much. I just figured I was right around his eyebrows or maybe a bit under so gave him the extra little bit. Either way an honest claim
Canson said on 6/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: The wife and I went to the grocery store yesterday and I ran into a guy that from a distance I figured to be at least 6’11 maybe 7’. Turns out getting closer to him that he’s only probably 6’8-6’9 tops when I walked right past him. He had very long hair and very good posture matching mine which is impressive for someone that tall. Normally it takes a person that type of height to have to adjust their posture stand straight for me to believe them. I’d hear someone say they are 6’7” and they look 6’5-6’6”. And then heard someone ask and he said “about 6’8/6’9”. Not a bad estimate just eyeballing pretty much. I just figured I was right around his eyebrows or maybe a bit under so gave him the extra little bit. Either way an honest claim
Importer said on 6/Aug/19
@Greg I'm just under 6'0" but I guess wanting to be 6'2-6'3 is related to my ego and to compensate for something else lol
Greg said on 6/Aug/19
@Guest66 I wasn’t whining relax pin head, I stand my ground just like other posters do when someone comes at them so easy there sally. Ain’t nobody being a doctor or anything you’re just speaking out of line sounds like you’re the toxic one it’s funny how everyone wants to gang up on me just because you dislike me, it doesn’t give you the right but then again I don’t take you or any other losers attempting to attack me seriously get lost.
K.A 188 ! said on 6/Aug/19
I begin to notice that more and more people are becoming height awared this days just the other day when I was in a line waiting to pay for what I bought, I noticed that a lot of people were staring at me maybe it is my curly afro hair that makes me look taller. But the thing is despite being solid tall I see myself as normal and it's because I probably subconsciously compare myself to people who are noticeably taller than me usually the 193+ which I see once or twice a week depending where I go.

But nevertheless I can not complain considering my parents height 181 peak for my dad and 170 for my mum, I am even lucky to be over 6foot. I know someone whose parents have the exact same height with my dad and mum yet he is 5ft11 max.
Greg said on 6/Aug/19
@Canson I would say my height and up is tallish, definetly not legit tall which I think starts after 6’0 but I’ve been referred to as “tall or kind of tall” although I don’t consider myself as so 5’10-5’11 is tallish or above average range both mean the same thing. C-mo is average in Germany maybe on the lower end because Germans tend to be tall at times if he was in America he’d be bang on average.

@Jddubz shame if it was a dick measuring contest Ajax and I both know he’d lose ;) so luckily for him it’s not 😂🤷🏻‍♂️ and he’s the one trying to be a smart ass and call me a manlet I wasn’t trying to one up him joke was on him I’m taller thats what makes the statement even more ironic.
ajax509 said on 6/Aug/19
Holder is for me the abbreviation of world record holder. I've never heard "he's the world title holder" 😂
by the way, Powell never had the honor of becoming world champion.

In any case, Yohan Blake is a joke. Claiming 185cm when he's clearly shorter than Serena Williams Click Here
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Antonio55 said on 3/Aug/19
The average Olympic 100m sprinter is around 183cm (Bolt (195cm) is the exception, but former holders are Gay (180cm), Blake (177cm), Powell (190cm), Gatlin (185cm)
Antonio55 said on 5/Aug/19
@Ajax509 I didn't say that Blake or Gay set the world record in the 100m (my opening was on Olympic sprinters) but if we want to get into details Gay, Blake, Powell and Gatlin hold the 4 best times in 100m history after Bolt's WR of 9.58s
cmillz said on 6/Aug/19
Calling people “retarded” or using retard as an insult is rather immature to say the least.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 6/Aug/19
@ Ben - It NOTICES! Anyway, I'm very pleased for you. I hope you manage to shoot up a bit more. I know it will make you happy! 😁👍

Cheers Ben - I hope you're enjoying your Summer! 😋🌞🕶️🏖️🍨
cmillzz said on 6/Aug/19
ajax509 said on 5/Aug/19
I have Pitt at 5ft 10.25 and Gosling 5ft 11.5

Yeah, that’s pretty much what I have them at too. And Clooney is right around the 5’10 mark.
K.A 188 ! said on 6/Aug/19
@MYSELF
A 10 cm difference it's really towering. Just look at the difference between Liam Hemsworth and current Harrison Ford.
ajax509 said on 6/Aug/19
Click Here 😆
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Ben said on 5/Aug/19
@ajax509 - if Greg's a manlet then you're a humonculus. We both edge you out.
185cmJeff said on 6/Aug/19
Hello Rob, I’ve found when I went to the hospital on my 17 birthday (now just turned 22) and I was measured then at 180.5cm now I am 185cm roughly at a low and getting very close to 187cm in the morning. My question is I’ve grown roughly 4cm-4.5cm is that common after 17? my physio said I need to strengthen my core back muscles which will help my over exaggerated posture in my lumbar region.
Editor Rob
It's more than average
Greg said on 6/Aug/19
@Ajax509 that must not be the only thing you can’t comprehend for the life of yours probably because you don’t have any life. What are you 12? Grow up oh wait you can’t pun intended. So let me try to dumb it down for you. Again I’m 5’11 out of bed and 5’10.25 and other days I’ll end up 5’10 3/8ths on more relaxed days the average person loses 3/4th of an inch. An inch is on the bigger side of what somebody might lose, you’re acting like I’m the only one. Unfortunately being an idiot does not make most of your insecurities go away lol. I wish you luck, if anyone needs a psychiatrist it’s you but they wouldn’t want to deal with you, I’ll hug my trees with my massive arm span and that’s not the only thing I’m going to hug little lad 😉.
Greg said on 6/Aug/19
@Christian It’s just an estimate lol he might be more 193 or 194 he’ll he could be 192 we wouldn’t know because we never measured him.

@Bobby I agree, the kids going through a rough time period and is mad about his stature so he has to whine and cry about it by making stupid assessments about old Gregg. His mangina is showing ;)
Canson said on 5/Aug/19
@C-Mo and Greg: I would define C-Mo as around that mark because it’s a very average height or slightly over so I think C+. As far as Greg, it’s tougher to say because it’s above average but still not into tall category but getting there. In reality it’s not much more than C-Mo but just like Greg said, with the right build and proportions, you can start to look tall
Jdubbz said on 5/Aug/19
@Cmillz I was working out today and I noticed that I was a head taller than half the guys in the gym and taller than all of them (big gym, at least 100 guys). I’m more 6’6 than 6’5, but a 6’5 guy would probably see the same thing. So I’d say 6’5 isn’t freakish, but very noticeably tall even in places with a lot of tall men (like a large gym). I think there is a threshold where you go from tall to noticeably tall in public, and I’d place that threshold around 6’4-6’5.
Jdubbz said on 5/Aug/19
@Myself: I feel like I’m getting towered when a guy is 2-3 inches taller than me (though that’s super rare these days) and I feel like I tower anyone under 6’1
Jdubbz said on 5/Aug/19
I know it’s not right to call people manlets, but getting into a d*ck measuring contest over a fraction of an inch and trying to one up @ajax509 is frankly a bit pathetic 😂😂
Greg said on 5/Aug/19
@Lell have you ever been to Switzerland? If so how do you think their average compares with Sweden over there I thought it was higher than what Ben describes but it’s all on perspective. They say average here is 5’9 sometimes I’ll walk around and be taller than most guys but then I’ll see those big 6 footers like today I was a 6’5-6’6 guy at a bar and then a few 6’2+ guys while walking around the city. Even saw a girl around my height. I know what C-mo means by sometimes you can walk around Germany and think 6’1 is average when it’s not because you see so many tall guys there’s a lot of German, French and Italians even Portuguese people here some of them look like ethnic Swedes but they might be mixed anyways I’m seeing a fair amount taller than me but I’m also taller than a lot so I can’t decide on the average.
Greg said on 5/Aug/19
@C-mo yeah only thing I will say is Jake is not 5’11.25” maybe out of bed but not in the afternoon he was measured under 5’11 on the Conan show even with the camera angle he seemed more 5’10 range and I feel like that’s how he looked with Kimmel on his show. But he still has a good height 5’10/5’11 range is definitely an aesthetic range I seen a guy today who looked my height maybe a little taller he did have thicker boots so it was a bit difficult to estimate from a distance but he had good proportions could even fool you for being taller and there’s this guy in my tour group has a good height but bad proportions and posture. He might be 5’11 range or a weak 6’0 he’s also a little difficult to estimate I seen his license briefly while he was taking it out for something but I’m not sure if I saw 5’11 or 6’0 but he def looked over 5’11 flat could have been like 5’11.5 maybe he had a thick shoe that brings him over 6’0.
Greg said on 5/Aug/19
@Ajax when you try to be funny but you’re not 😭. It all depends on what you think is ideal so someone like Jddubz would grade 6’1 a C and 6’6 an A. I think my heights not bad a guy between 5’10 and 5’11 can most certainly look tallish with the right proportions and you would be taller than both females plus it wouldn’t be hard to fill out your frame despite having long arms I manage. C-mo feels that average isn’t that good so he’s giving it a mediocre grade, for him 5’11/6’0 would be an A. More examples for Ellis 6’5 would be a C or B but 6’9-7’0 probably an A or so forth. 6’1 and 6’2 are definitely ideal for a lot of people but not everybody. Depends on how you feel about standing out or towering people.

@Guest66 Lol you again, sounds like somebody is also insecure and jealous and is attempting to project their insecurities well keep your boyfriend company over there hope you’re keep his coffee warm. I’m not flaunting my 6’2 wing span if anything it’s more of an annoyance, I just talk about it when it gets brought up. But Rob isn’t going to ban me because he likes me and I’m not doing anything to harass posters kind of like you and Ajax are doing well he’s just being stupid so obviously I’m going to use terms like that don’t like it don’t post anything. It’s funny because last I remembered you where submitting troll guesses and arguing that you think celebs are way shorter then listed.
Greg said on 5/Aug/19
@Importer how tall are you? You can’t be that short I don’t think I thought you where at least average. Many people aren’t obsessed with height, some people might think it’s weird but I would say own it there’s definitely weirder obsessions out there 6’2/6’3 would be alright but I would be fine with being 6’0 or 6’1 I don’t see it as an importance to be really tall unless you want to standout.
Guest66 said on 5/Aug/19
Yo Greg, who was whining recently about some folks on here being “doctors” and giving other people mental diagnoses ?? Well guess what, you do the exactly same thing you pathetic little hypocrite. You’re the most toxic person on this forum and many would agree.
Greg said on 5/Aug/19
@Ajax509 it seems to me you just look for any reason to argue, learning from my mistakes of dealing with foolish posters and engaging in dumb arguments with the likes of Andrea on the Misha Collins page plus a few outbursts here on General is why I’m attempting to steer clear but for the sake of shutting you down I’ll finish this. Okay posters who here saw me ever say that I measured Barely 5’10? If so speak up 🤔... Yes I over measured before and I also under measured it depends on many factors but now what I am saying is correct. I won’t even go below 5’10 at an absolute low I would be exactly 178cm at an extreme low which if we do basic math you can see it’s over 177.8 or 177.9 besides I usually don’t hit an extreme low I will measure at least 178.5cm or 5’10.25-3/8ths by the end of the day. That would be your height lol 177.9 or 177.8 you probably dip below 5’10 if you’re 178.5 30 mins out of bed you would drop to 177-177.5 territory now to mention at en extreme low you would probs hit 176.8-177ish. And never said I would tower you just find it funny that an insecure dude such as yourself is trying to make a funny by calling me a manlet, Reminds me of the time Arthur was attempting to hype up the fact he was supposedly 1/8th of an inch taller than me turns out that wasn’t the case infact it was the opposite. So will that help you sleep better at night? 😂 if so okay I’m a manlet, probably as tall as they come right? Seems to me you’re presenting false information. The only thing I said was I used to claim 5’10 “back when I was like 5’9ish more or so 5’9.5 or over. And most of the time I would say I’m around 5’9/5’10 because I wasn’t sure and at the time I was most likely 5’10 range in the morning. I was measured at 5’9 a few hours out of bed before my 17th birthday the school nurse called out 5’9 idk if I was over or what but I didn’t bother to check it was a measurement done like 3-4 hours out of bed so maybe I was like 5’9.75 then besides I didn’t start to become height aware and care that much until like my senior year. However when I was getting my height measured for a physical for my permit the nurse goofed and didn’t tell me to take off my shoes and as a result I got 5’10 whilst wearing dress shoes. I was probably 5’8.5-5’9 then and she said “you grew” but I knew that wasn’t right. Turns out by my 18th birthday I reached a weakish 5’11/strong 5’10 however you want to look at it. Sometimes I’ll say almost/around 5’11 just to not be so technical Rob said it’s fine for me to claim “Almost 5’11 in the morning” but that’s a mouthful especially considering in real life people don’t account for height loss majority outside of celeb heights will think you don’t shrink. It shouldn’t matter how tall someone is, the whole purpose of this forum is to discuss height as a general topic. Not to argue, especially over something so dumb because in the real world it doesn’t matter how tall you are unless you’re like 4’0 or 7’0 no one will care. But obviously I’m going to respond back if someone is going to say some nonsense that isn’t true I’m not taking it as an attack more like laughing about this whole thing really it’s actually quite entertaining keeping me occupied 😂
Mark Warren said on 5/Aug/19
Rob please could you consider adding some of the following popular fitness youtubers: David Laid, Connor Murphy, Bradley Martyn, Mike Tornabene, Merijn. My guesses:

David Laid: 6ft2.25 (claims 6ft2)
Connor Murphy: 6ft2 (claims 6ft3)
Bradley Martyn: 6ft1.75 (6ft3 when search online)
Mike Tornabene: 6ft0.5 (6ft1 when search online)
Merijn: 6ft1 (6ft1 when search online)
Ellis said on 5/Aug/19
@Jdubbz: I was 5'9 at 14, so I'm guessing you had a big growth spurt as-well. I was measured in the morning though, I remember so I was more like 5'8.25-5'8.5 at that time. And they take it with shoes, I just remembered, damn, so I grew a foot since that time. I could barely touch the bottom of the net. Currently, I can easily touch the net standing.
Ellis said on 5/Aug/19
@Canson: You would take 5'9 over 6'7, really? that is pretty crazy, but I respect that. Like I said before, I wouldn't downgrade my height for anything, so maybe it would be a different bias towards me and since I'm a legitimate 6'7. I have a good friend of mine that is 5'9 and I colossally dwarf him, like it is unhealthy, we look like two different species. My giant shoulders loom over him, my head is a little over his, not sure of my head size though.
I also have a friend that is 5'10 that claims 5'11, and he hates to take pictures with me because I make him feel small, I joke about it a lot and I know it bothers him but it is like an inside joke.
My height scale:
5'9-5'10: Average, A lot of these 5'10 guys claim 5'11, so it makes it seem like a legit 5'11 is average but it really isn't
5'11-6'0: Above Average
6'1-6'2: Tall
6'3-6'4: Solid Tall, Kinda Very Tall
6'5 flat: Very Tall
6'5+-6'6: Starting to look Extremely Tall
6'6+: Extremely Tall.
Mark Warren said on 5/Aug/19
@c-mo These guys are attractive because of their good looks and fame, not their height. I think their height is having a neutral effect on their attractiveness. So if they were taller, they would be even more attractive - a tall height can make a more average looking guy (facially) much more attractive. The height range of 5ft9-5ft11 tends to be just 'fine', and it doesn't really add or take away from a man's attractiveness. Also, a large reason so many of these guys are around that height, is simply because it's the most common height range.
Antonio55 said on 5/Aug/19
@Ajax509 I didn't say that Blake or Gay set the world record in the 100m (my opening was on Olympic sprinters) but if we want to get into details Gay, Blake, Powell and Gatlin hold the 4 best times in 100m history after Bolt's WR of 9.58s
Canson said on 5/Aug/19
@Guest66: in fairness though, I don’t agree with Greg about Ajax 509 because I’ve had only a couple interactions with Ajax and they were both pleasant and positive
Canson said on 5/Aug/19
@Guest66: but there are others who have called people mentally retarded here too on different pages and they weren’t banned. In fact Rob never says a word to one of them so I don’t see why Greg should have anything said to him
Canson said on 5/Aug/19
@Greg: I actually have Usain Bolt at 192 as well. 192.5 more specifically. He isn’t as tall as Jordan or Barkley and both of them are like 194-195 peak. Maybe Bolt was taller and lost the height due to Scoliosis though. I’ve seen people lose 2” easily to that so no guarantee he didn’t lose an inch maybe
Chris brady said on 5/Aug/19
Since my walls and floors are so dodgy and I am trying to get a measurement since my injury I am laying down on a bed. I am letting the top of my head touch the headboard and am placing a hardcover book on the bed at around the 6-1 mark and trying to touch it with my heel. Is this method reasonably accurate?
Importer said on 5/Aug/19
@Chris Brady you might be 6ft 1/2 atleast, possibly 6ft 3/4, judging by your current eye-level.
Bobby 178cm said on 5/Aug/19
@ajax509

I honestly cannot for the life of me understand where your comprehension is coming from. I've been on CelebHeights for a couple of years now and I've never once ever heard Greg establish he was barely 5'10 let alone what you've been prattling on about for a while now. He's always maintained a figure of 5'11 in the morning and 5'10.25 at night. That places him as being an entire inch taller than C-Mo.
ajax509 said on 5/Aug/19
The ultimate CelebHeights.com logic test:

We have a dude who claims to have measured 5ft 11.25 first thing and 5ft 10.25 last thing.
Then it turns out he over measured himself - for whatever reason - by 0.25in. He admits to 5ft 11 out of bed.

How tall is he in the evening? 🤣
ajax509 said on 5/Aug/19
Yes, on valentines day he hugs trees with his impressive arm span. I hope there's an experienced psychiatrist near his gym.
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Guest66 said on 4/Aug/19
@Ajax, ignore Greg, he’s just an attention whore who has history of arguments with many posters here. If he’s not arguing with somebody, he’s complimenting himself on having good proportions and 6’2” wingspan, it’s not even funny how many times he stated that.

And you Greg are lucky Rob didn’t ban you yet for calling people morons and retards left and right.
ajax509 said on 5/Aug/19
I have Pitt at 5ft 10.25 and Gosling 5ft 11.5.
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Greg said on 4/Aug/19
@Ajax you have a tendency to downgrade why are you saying bolt is 192cm? See at this point you’re subtracting 2 cm’s from peoples heights, I noticed your troll pattern let me guess you think Brad Pitt is 5’9 and Gosling is 5’10 too
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 5/Aug/19
@Greg
In Ajax's defense, Bolt's likely more 192 than 195. Look at him next to people like Kobe and others. He's also not wrong about other Olympic athletes having their heights exaggerated.
ajax509 said on 5/Aug/19
The comment ("barely 5ft 10") is not older than 12 months I'm sure many posters can confirm that.

You are absolutely towering me, let's do the math 180.34 - 178.95cm = 1.39cm or 0.54in. Classic case of A+ vs F 🥂
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Greg said on 4/Aug/19
@Ajax LOL i can’t argue with mentally retarded people sorry bruv, I don’t think this is an attack but merely a display of your poor intelligence. Best be careful throwing around the term manlet. You’re shorter than me so if I am King of Manlets that must make you my servant then 😉. Yes “at one point” I measured under it not now what are you bad at math and logic? Must have some sort of disability or something. Let me educate you class is in session so it’s called “ a growth spurt” jeez I feel sorry for the people reading this because you’re legit mentally not there 😂 like hollow I’m talking hamsters running through cobwebs and all. I was 5’8.5 at 16 5’9-5’9.5 at 17 and 5’10.5-5’11 at 18 up until now. No it does not seem to me that you know the imperial system because if you did you would realize. Obviously you could care less about comprehending and understanding about 5’11 or 180.3cm in the morning and 178.3 or so at a low 5’10.25 isn’t 177.8cm or below go back to school numb nuts.
Myself said on 5/Aug/19
@K.A
Well...9-10 cm advantage I wouldn't exactly call it legit "towering"...more like being "much taller".
I feel like I kinda "tower" somebody when they are at least 1 cm below my (about) 181.5 cm eyelevel.
mrfunnyguy said on 5/Aug/19
@Lell I am almost exactly 6'1 (about 185.5cm in the evening). I was estimated by a girl to be "around 175cm", which is about four inches shorter.
Mark Warren said on 5/Aug/19
@canson I completely agree with that list up until number 7, where the decisions start getting difficult.
Mark Warren said on 5/Aug/19
@cmillz 6ft5 isn't quite freakish, although it is very, noticeably tall. Looking massive is more about build/ physique than height.
Importer said on 5/Aug/19
@Csimpson6ft i wouldn't of given height much thought if I was comfortably tall tbh, say 6'2"-6'3". But currently sometimes feel tall and short it disturbs me.
ajax509 said on 5/Aug/19
To be honest you are not much different from c-mo. First thing in the morning he measures 178.3cm, you're basically 2.04cm taller. How can 2cm make up a whole grade?

Then again, it makes little sense to claim ideal height is between 6ft 1 and 2.

A+ 187cm Ideal height
A-/B+ 178cm Greg's height
B-/C+ 176cm c-mo's height

When you check your own exams 😂
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Greg said on 4/Aug/19
@C-mo yeah I knew what you meant tbh I feel like a lot of those could be debated Rob has Clooney at almost 5’11, Clooney himself claims a modest 5’11.5 however with other celebs like Brad Pitt or Matt Mcon. He struggles with 5’10, Dornan I think manages to Look close to Garfield and a bit below Redmayne, personally Garfield seems taller than 5’10.5, especially if Redmayne is 5’11-5’11.25”. Also we could through in Owen Wilson and Peak Cranston in there both men look tallish on screen, being connected to what Canson was saying about 5’10 range+ looking tallish with the right proportions. Also I would grade your height between C+/B- and mine would be between B+/A- borderlining.
Ben said on 5/Aug/19
@ajax509 - if Greg's a manlet then you're a humonculus. We both edge you out.
cmillz said on 5/Aug/19
@Canson
Based on what you said, I’m guessing you’d also have a tough time choosing between 5’8 and 6’8?
Greg said on 5/Aug/19
Rob how tall would you guess my dad to be if he straightened out?My mom was like 5’3-5’4 range. My grand father was like a decent 5’7 peak so might be 5’6ish by the time of the photo. What do you think his estimated Peak was? he was maybe in his 50’s there along with some medical issues which made him lose height in addition to aging. Click Here
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he can look over 5ft 9 maybe possible 5ft 10, but he is losing more height and in 50's might have lost a bit.
c-mo said on 4/Aug/19
I want to continue with what I have to say because there was not much space anymore after my last comment I was just submiting 1 minute ago and hope that it will be displayed because I refreshed the site and I hope it didnt get lost

@Nik

there are many men who also look good and are around 5'8 like Zac Efron , Milo Ventimiglia (5'8.5 though) , Tom Cruise etc. . but at a height of bruno mars you have a problem ....

but the very best looking men are around 5'11 - 6'0 or a bit more or less and they also have a better height than 5'8 men

as I said :

Leo - 5'11.25

Clooney - 5'10.5

Theo James - 6'0

Jamie Dornan - 5'10.25 / 5'10.5

Tyson Beckford - 6'0 / 6'0.5

Colin Farrell - 5'10 (even though imo he is 5'9.25 - 5'9.5 but ok)

David Beckham - 5'11

Jake Gyllenhaal - 5'11.25

Joe Lando - 5'11

Henry Cavill - 6'0.5

Ryan Guzman - 5'11

Daniel Craig - 5'10.25

Michael Fassbender - 5'11 (or slightly less)

Jensen Ackles - 6'0

Adan Canto - 6'0

not only are these men facially good looking ...I mean you can also be facially good looking at any height (even though a lot of the good looking men will be around these heights from what I can tell) but look at their body proportions and how their heights look next to people . very aesthetic . and not too short and not too tall in any way


5'11 - 6'0 are really the best heights to be and a solid 5'10 is also good and a well proportioned 6'1 is awesome and arguably perfection too but any other height will never be as good as these imo ....at 5'9 you have a decent height but your height is not nearly as good as 5'11 - 6'0 ....at 6'5 you are really tall and have certain specific advantages which can be cool for example but your height will never be as good as 5'11 - 6'0 imo even if you have good proportions at 6'5

provided you have good body proportions and a healthy weight then 180cm to 184cm (maybe 179cm and 185cm too . especially 185cm ) at night without shoes is the most aeshtetically pleasing and comfortable height range you can fall in

my views and opinion is based on observations and analysing since many years in all kind of places (bars/nightclubs , gyms , school and university , grocery stores , downtown area , movies/celebrities etc. etc.)
c-mo said on 4/Aug/19
@Canson and @Greg . thank you both :)

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@Sakz and @6footTom

you CAN have lanky proportions when you are below 6'1 ...as I said I have a friend who is around 181cm and he is a bit lanky

BUT ....

1. it is less common than at above 185cm

2. it still looks less lanky overall when you are lanky and below 6'0-6'1 than when you are taller and lanky because when you are lanky AND tall ...it is way more noticable and the height adds extra lankiness .

you will basically be more like a "stick" or street lamp no offense .

I also noticed some tall men have crooked legs/knees ...as if they are broken

go to the height challenge page and click on the photo of Challenger 5 . I noticed it on his legs for the first time . I guess it is what we call "x legs" and it seems way more common among tall men...I dont want to offends Robs friends but compare Rob and him or Rob with the other tall challengers . Robs proportions look WAY better than all of them imo even though challenger 8 also has decent proportions . Rob has a nice shoulder width and his legs dont look too long but the legs of the tall men do imo (again ...no offense) . and Robs overall body proportions are more aestheitc because they look more harmonic and also more compact . even though 5'8 is not exactly a bad height... if Rob had the same proportions but was 5'11 - 6'0 it would look totally awesome and he would also "hold his own" better next to taller men and would high average - above average height and the glass would be full

as I said when you are tall you have specific advantages for being tall and it will always be perceived better than short . however as I said when you get taller than like 6'1 or so you start to be "too long" and tall men also often have less aesthetically proportionate bodies than even 5'8 men like Rob

you can disagree if you want . and of course there are also tall or even very tall men with great proportions like Joe Manganiello for example . he is around 195cm and looks very good . there is no way that his height is bad . it is great to be as tall as him and have such a good build and good proportions for that height . however it is still too much height to be ideal imo . it is just unneccesary to be above 183cm especially above 187 and imo the best range as I already said is something around 180 - 184 at night with great body proportions and build . as I said I have a friend who is 189cm and he doesnt have bad proportions either but it is just a bit of an overkill ....he is "unnecessarily tall" ....when we are in clubs he has to duck too much to talk to women , he has to eat more food and train more to build muscle mass , he is often one of the tallest guys around and in some gatherings even the tallest . if he was 5cm shorter it would be better . but his height is still good of course and he has the advantage that women who are 175-185cm will prefer his height (he often had women around 5'10 be attracted to him)


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the ideal body proportions in my view is basically prime Mike Tyson . but he was a bit too muscular at times

also this boxer named Obie Walker had almost the ideal proportions imo . he was just a little too bulky otherwise it is basically close to perfection

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he was 5'8 or 5'9

if you took his build and proportions but a little less bulky and a little less stocky and combined it with the height of 6'0 - 183cm then you would have the ideal height and body

but he (and mike tyson too) was a black gentleman and there are differences between their build and structure from ours

but some examples of caucasian men with good proportions would be David Beckham , Channing Tatum , Ryan Gosling , George Clooney , Brad Pitt , Stephen Amell , and there are probably many more who I can not remember right now . will post them later when I remember



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Nik said on 3/Aug/19
@ c-mo - Bruno Mars ain't 5'11" though!

Nik said on 3/Aug/19
@ c-mo - Tom Cruise ain't 5'11" though!


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I dont find Bruno Mars that good looking but ok lets say he is a good looking man too ....his height is a big problem from an aesthetic point of view . he looks plain short and sometimes even very short . sure you can still attract women and also be sucessful at Bruno Mars height ....but it is way less aesthetic and will also be a disatvantage . I dont want to say more because I dont want to make short men feel bad


Tom Cruise is around 5'8 or a bit less and that is not a bad height but he is often getting talked abotu as if he is short ....would that be the case if he was 5'11 ? lol no way . I mean I have seen some women talk about brad pitt and george clooney as if they are short ...it can happen even at 5'10-5'11 sometimes but I dont take such people serious anyway and since these men are superstars they will get to hear such things more because people expect superstars to be tall lol . but yeah if Tom Cruise was 5'11 then his height would be almost a non topic and he would also look better if he was 5'11 you can not deny that because 5'11 is a way better height than 5'7.5 - 5'8

Milo Ventimiglia is a very good looking man and he is 5'8.5 which is an okay height and his height is not talked about but he seems a bit height concious . if he was 5'11 he also w
Canson said on 4/Aug/19
@Christian: I poorly worded that my bad. I meant to say for very tall guys because you aren’t the only one. I’ve heard that from several people our size or taller.

@Greg: I didn’t mean it that way. What I meant is that the only way someone can spot the difference if someone is 1/4” under the Mark is if they’re like 1/8 or 1/4” over themselves. Even then that person may not believe that they’re over the mark if theyre not made aware of it. Some nurses or doctors may measure in the afternoon at say 5’10.25 and just tell someone that they’re 5’10” which by deduction makes a person 1/2” shorter 5’9 1/2”. I didn’t mean that they would necessarily tell them that. I was just saying it to Connor as an example that it could work that way
Chris brady said on 4/Aug/19
@ Ajax I have been measured under a staduometer at 6--1 before though I hurt my back. I don't feel I lost a full t inches. My chin height still seems to be about 5-3 and I can see two inches over my 5-6 fridge.
cmillzz said on 4/Aug/19
For me personally maybe 6’6 is getting too tall, or perhaps 6’7+ would be too tall.
cmillzz said on 4/Aug/19
a family friend of mine is 6’5. Just saw him today actually. Honestly, he doesn’t give off an impression of being too tall, nor does he look freakish. He actually looks pretty normal height-wise and doesn’t seem “massive”.

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