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Jdubbz said on 16/Mar/23
@Alex:

Ah ok, so you're a solid/legit 6 footer then. I bet you're taller than 90% or more of guys IRL who claim to be 6 foot, lol. Also I agree completely on the sedan vs SUV argument for taller guys. SUVs are better no doubt, but it's not like driving a mid sized sedan or coupe is torture for us or anything.

Tbh I actually prefer the tight leg room, and driving my friend's ford fusion (way roomier) feels off to me...how is leg room in your 2013 coupe? I didn't have any issues with that until after 6'3, but I know guys your height who also start to run into that problem.
adrianjacobs said on 16/Mar/23
@Henrik
Obviously it's at least 6ft, it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who lives here and has a realistic perception of height. That was also back in 2010, so the average have probably gone up slightly by now.
So I take you don't have a link to the place where you read it btw?
Henrik said on 16/Mar/23
According to ChatGPT, there was a study published by Acta Paediatrica which found the average height of Swedish 17-year olds to be 182.4cm (5ft 11.8) in 2010. If we take into account that boys can still grow some after 17, we may actually get an average of a solid 6ft. I cannot find the citing or survey online.

However, every other study I have seen on Swedes and Scandinavians has suggested the figures of 5ft 11 to 5ft 11.5. It may be that the Acta Paediatrica, headed by Karolinska Institutet, study represented the younger population of Stockholm, and it is in fact somewhat taller.
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 16/Mar/23
Alex @ is height inflation quite common in the states, I remember you saying a 5ft 10 dude openly claimed 6ft in front of you
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 16/Mar/23
I no some of you weren’t a fan of c-mo but personally I think he was a pleasure to have on this site. C-mo if you are reading this I hope that life is treating you alright, truly!
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 16/Mar/23
adrianjacobs@ you look tall in the pictures you took mate, you measured 6ft 1, regardless if that was at noon or at night you are tall, not really tall, or a little tall, just tall. Don’t let anyone tell you your not!
adrianjacobs said on 16/Mar/23
@GucciGang
How old are you now and how old were you when you measured yourself last time?
How do you measure yourself?
GucciGang said on 16/Mar/23
I notice some strange claims about average height in Sweden. I am 180 cm and comfortably average or even above average in one of the largest cities in Sweden. More or less half of all men are under that height. 180 cm is taller than most people think due to widespread height frauding.
Progking185 said on 16/Mar/23
@Jdubbz yeah compared to very tall/extremely tall like your height of just over 6'6 then yeah 6'1-6'2 doesn't look that tall. It's very much an average tall height. I'm a bit shorter than that and consider most guys around my height fairly tall, but to your height it doesnt look tall as it's below your eye level. Kind of similar to how I think guys below mine(~5'7.5) start to look short
adrianjacobs said on 16/Mar/23
@Henrik
Not representative, because they are definitely unusually short compared to most people I see on the street.
And more like barely a quarter, not a third. That if the SD isn't ridiculously narrow like in Sweden.
adrianjacobs said on 16/Mar/23
@Tallish guy
An inch and you feel bad about it? I'm about 2-3 inches shorter than my dad.
adrianjacobs said on 16/Mar/23
Jdubbz said on 14/Mar/23
"he's frustrated that people who are not from Sweden seem to know the average height better than he does."

Yeah, and Swedes who deflate height, such as @dreus23 for example.
adrianjacobs said on 16/Mar/23
@FiveNine
Did you watch my measurement video?
Henrik said on 16/Mar/23
@Jdubbz

Well, there's no denying that there is a big difference between 6ft 1 and 6ft 6. Colin Mochrie said that people think he is short at 6ft 1 when compared to 6ft 6 Ryan Lee Stiles who he works with. So I have no trouble believing that you'd feel much shorter at 6ft 1-2.

@adrianjacobs

Well, don't know if you could take a group of eight people to be representative of a country's national average. But at an average height of 6ft 2, you could probably expect like one third of the population to fall below 6ft.
Tallish guy said on 16/Mar/23
Guys, is anyone here an inch shorther than their father?
It's so strange because i am and I always feel like i stunted my growth for that one inch...
Matt Shannon said on 15/Mar/23
Hey Rob how tall do you think Jazz Jennings is some websites have described her as 5’2 what you think and she also needs a page as well.
Editor Rob
That's not an unreasonable guess for her.
John marks said on 15/Mar/23
Rob, if I’m lying down for 8 hours but only sleep for 5, would this affect morning height as opposed to full 8 hours sleep?
Editor Rob
Yes, the mere act of lying down releases the pressure on discs, so they can start to rehydrate or 'thicken' again.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 15/Mar/23
adrianjacobs said on 13/Mar/23

Adrian, stop this talk. You're tall and lanky. Last time i wasn't so obsessed with these photos, but I take slow and focused look on your photos. You're def much taller than avg male person!
It's like somebody will thinking that EVERYBODY has a cool crazy fast BMV, because he have it!

I know about your problem/disease and hope you will never take any vaccines ("covid too") or stuff like this.

My advice, if you have dumbbells, start to workout, doing pull-ups and push-ups everyday, running and good breakfast, man ;)
Alex 6'0 said on 15/Mar/23
Jdubzz, honda accord sedan are very good cars. People automatically think taller guys need an suv but cars still work. Sometimes suvs have much more cargo space but the front seats aren't as roomy. I drive a 2013 Honda accord coupe. I have comfortable room. Back seat another story lol
AverageSlovene said on 15/Mar/23
Rob, how tall would you say my friend is, if the shorter guy is 5ft8 range? I think he is standing a bit behind.
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Editor Rob
First thought was 6ft there, but the angle and position is tricky.
Alex 6'0 said on 14/Mar/23
Jdubzz, I'm more 6'0 low aside extreme low days. 6'0 1/8 is more a lunchtime or early afternoon. Definitely solid 6'0 whereas you and canson are both strong 6'4 and 6'6. 1/4 over mark normal low. And rob is strong 5'8. Hes 5'8.25 normal low
Alex 6'0 said on 14/Mar/23
Rockaway, i agree pretty much. Strong 6'0 is 1/8-1/4 over at their low
Alex 6'0 said on 14/Mar/23
Canson, id say I'm more a solid/legit 6'0 than strong. Strong 6'0 to me is a guy who at his low still hovers 6'0 1/8-6'0.25. We're talking a tiny fraction but still nonetheless. Weak 6"0 to me is 5'11.75 or 5'11 5/8 normal low
FiveNine said on 14/Mar/23
adrianjacobs said on 13/Mar/23
… I should look taller than I am too btw,
because I'm pretty skinny, and yet I look short af …
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You definitely look skinny in your recent picture and it
gives you a taller looking appearance …
… But …
You can easily pass for a skinny 5’10 …
5’10 is a great height …
Yes … You can still embrace it even if your not a 6footer …
Just Come Clean Dude … You will feel better …
Jdubbz said on 14/Mar/23
@Bobby:

I don't blame people for getting on his case, but he doesn't strike me as a troll. At the very least, he's being (mostly) cordial to the people who are calling him out and not going full blown ad hominem mode like a few previously notorious trolls did.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting his comments or just not paying enough attention, but my impression is that he's frustrated that people who are not from Sweden seem to know the average height better than he does. He does seem insecure about his height, but surely most of us here can relate to that.

His views are certainly rather unorthodox (I don't agree with most of what he says), but hey, at least the celebheights general height page is a little less boring at the moment than it usually is. I'd rather deal with him than actual trolls like Ajax and little G, or super annoying people like C-mo and Avi.

Speaking of C-mo, what ever happened to him? Usually he leaves in an overly dramatic fashion then ends up coming back a few weeks later. Was he banned or something?
Jdubbz said on 14/Mar/23
adrianjacobs said on 13/Mar/23
@Jdubbz
Maybe you can understand why I don't think 6'4 is super tall in Sweden, if you were insecure at 6'3 in America, which is the equivalent of a 6'5 guy being insecure about being too short in Sweden.

Yeah I can certainly understand why you'd think that. Most of the people here who are hyping 6'4 up to be some giant super rare height everywhere in the world are nowhere near 6'4, so I can't really blame them for being so shocked by what you're saying. It's obviously a very tall height in MOST of the world, but not in countries with an average height very close to 6 foot/183.

6'4 in your country is probably the equivalent of 6'1-2/187cm in the US, at least in cities like Stockholm. Now I'm not saying 6'1-2 isn't tall, but it is literally my eye level or a tiny bit under. I haven't been 6'1-2 since I was 15, but all I know is that if I shrunk 4.5-5 inches to reach my current eye level height, I'd feel a hell of a lot shorter than I do now. For every guy I see who is my height or taller, I see at least 50x as many 6'1-2/187cm guys, if not closer to 100x. It's not a small difference.

6'4 in the US is a different story, but it's not some super towering height like some people think. I was 6'4 for several years, and I felt tall to very tall depending on my environment. I didn't start to feel solidly very tall in the US until I got closer to 6'5 (around 194-195cm to be precise), so that would be the equivalent of 6'7/201cm in your country. 193 to 201cm is a big jump in terms of perception and especially in terms of rarity.
Emil said on 14/Mar/23
@(Billythetreesurgeon)

I'm Danish and I live in Copenhagen, the capital of Denmark.

What about yourself?
adrianjacobs said on 14/Mar/23
@Henrik
Almost no young ethnically Swedish guys under 6ft in Östermalm, where I live. It pretty much doesn't happen, yes. I honestly do believe the average ethnically Swedish guy aged 20-30 living here is about 6'2, and the standard deviation is narrow.
The average is probably lower in other parts of the city and the country (maybe as low as 6'0 in Skåne). I actually do have two "kursare" (course mates?) who are ethnically Swedish and are probably shorter than 6ft, and that's about it. Maybe one who is right around 6'0 or slightly under. All of them are not from Stockholm and this is out of eight guys who are ethnically Swedish.
Progking185 said on 14/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs I'm about 6'0.75 midday and my eye level is pretty low as well, like 5'7.5 maybe? About 4.75 is average for our height, 5-5.25 is below average but not rare
adrianjacobs said on 14/Mar/23
@Bobby
How am I "whining" about the average being taller than 6ft if other people who have been here thought that as well?
@John185 thought it was 6'1-6'2 midday and 6'0.5 in the afternoon.
And I'm not ignoring people shorter than me. Almost every single guy here is taller than me, like literally 9 out of 10 passing me on the street.
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 14/Mar/23
Emil@ what nationality are you, and where do you live?
Sandy Cowell said on 14/Mar/23
@ Mariana - Oooooh! I’ve just banged my face! It hurts!

I’m watching the Chase, and I love Bradley Walsh, especially when he’s laughing his arse awf!

Oh dear! I’ve banged my face, yet I haven’t looked in the the morror!

Thank you for writing to me. XXX
jokey said on 13/Mar/23
Gian 181cm said on 12/Mar/23
@jokey
hey bro,
what measurements are you currently on? I remember I was 5ft10 7/8 at the start of the evening (I think).

hey dude, i'm a hair under 5'11 at my normal low and 5'10.75 at my absolute lowest
Okidoki said on 13/Mar/23
@Adrianjacobs Yes. Well, most of the time, most people walk around the park, walk through the streets, nature and around the city or through the centre of the city.

In my experience, around 5'11 for the average seems about right for the age group between 20-40. The only thing which is not easy to decide on personally, is if one sees more often 5'11-6'0 guys or 5'10-5'11 guys.

In these occasions,i see as often men between 5'9-5'11 as men between 6'0-6'2 for example.

And these occasions are much more often than when visiting pubs, bars or shopping malls, more crowded places.

In places like pubs, honestly, i do more often encounter 6'0-6'1 guys than say 5'9-5'10 guys for example. From my experience, i do more often see guys taller than 5'11 in these settings for some reason.

So i can understand you're viewpoint, when saying you think the average is much higher than cited.

When we look at the averages where it's stated that people measure them more objectively, like not being self reported, measuring without shoes and using national surveys, then we can see that the averages are reported to be between 5'11-5'11.75. Even when accounting for the tallest cities and tallest regions, the average there doesn't excede 182-183 cm. It's also stated in these that they measure ethnic nordic people too.

For people in Stockholm to be that much taller than people in Copenhagen, the only arguments made could be that they exercise much more, have significantly better living conditions, eat food with more hormones as some people argue that the youth of today are taller because of that. These are only theories ofcourse. All these things are unlikely to have that much of an effect and these 2 countries are probably similar in all these aspects too.

Because these 2 people have also similar origins and genes, so it makes sense that they are close in height.
Bobby said on 13/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs

I don't live in Sweden, but I strongly doubt it's as tall as you're making it out to be.

You are either trolling or are you delusional, so which is it? As Big Ben said, who the f**k cares what the average height is? It could be 6'5 in Sweden.

You seem to have a perception problem if you only notice the people taller than you are.

@Jdubbz

They are getting on his case for a good reason. He's irritating. He's not as annoying as C-Mo was, but his constant whining about the average height of over 6ft in Sweden is getting old. No man or woman is made equal so some people will be taller than he is. I might as well start b******g that I didn't make it to six feet tall, but complaining about it is not going to change anything. He needs to be happy with the height he is and damn what the average height is.
adrianjacobs said on 13/Mar/23
@Jdubbz
Maybe you can understand why I don't think 6'4 is super tall in Sweden, if you were insecure at 6'3 in America, which is the equivalent of a 6'5 guy being insecure about being too short in Sweden.
adrianjacobs said on 13/Mar/23
@Jdubbz
I don't even know exactly how tall I am. I'm 99.99999% sure that Rob would list me at anywhere near 6'1 if I were a celebrity (and if he didn't see my measurement). I uploaded the video of me measuring myself to ask anyone here if they could see what I was doing wrong.
As I told @Cbrady a couple of weeks ago, I think I measured my eye level incorrectly and it probably is right around 5 inches below my height (and not even lower like I used to say). My evening height seems to be about 6'0.75 (that video was 2-3 hours out of bed) and my eye-level about 172 and some change. A solid 6ft person should have an eye level of about 171cm, which means I supposedly do have a higher eye level than those 6ft guys, and yet I can't imagine them being shorter than me at all.
I should look taller than I am too btw, because I'm pretty skinny, and yet I look short af.

One thing I noticed, is that on the very rare occasions when guys only reach up to my eye level, they look like complete meatballs and yet when I see actors in movies who are listed at 5'7-5'8, they have "normal-looking" limbs and don't look like goblins.
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 13/Mar/23
Mariana@ there isn’t a massive difference between 5ft 2 and 5ft 4… in general being short as a woman isn’t seen as a negative trait like it is for men, although you can see many woman are height aware, just like men are
Rockaway said on 13/Mar/23
Weak 6ft = regularly dips to 5’11.75” at a normal bedtime low
Solid 6t = only dips below 6’ on extreme lows and even then barely
Strong 6ft = never dips below 6’ even at an extreme low
Henrik said on 13/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs

In this case, I was commenting on your saying that virtually no Swede was under 6ft. That doesn't make sense even if we take for the sake of the argument that the Swedish average is 6ft, because half of the population is below the average. It would have to be way higher than that if there were virtually no Swedes below 6ft.
Emil said on 13/Mar/23
@Billythetreesurgeon

Yes, exactly. Although, in Scandinavia and the Netherlands we're only about average height regardless of posture, but eh, we still are taller than probably 90% of all grown men on the entire planet, so nothing to complain about really 😉
Emil said on 13/Mar/23
Guys, if we could stop the mouth butchering it would be great. It's just height for crying out loud
Poster said on 12/Mar/23
@5'7 Heaven: I noticed that you're somewhat shorter than your sisters. Are they older or younger? Are they half sisters? I ask because brothers almost always are taller than their full sisters when all are fully grown.
Gian 181cm said on 12/Mar/23
@jokey
hey bro,
what measurements are you currently on? I remember I was 5ft10 7/8 at the start of the evening (I think).
Jdubbz said on 12/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs:

I know people here are getting on your case, but at the end of the day you know exactly how tall you are. You're one of the few people here who has actually proved his height, and your measurement looked perfectly fine to me. You may be eye to eye with legit 6'0 people since you have a relatively low eye level, but that doesn't mean you aren't taller than them.

While I don't necessarily agree with your perspective on the average Swedish height, people accusing you of trolling are taking it too far. For what it's worth, in the other photos you uploaded (especially the last one), you don't look like a below average guy to me.
Jdubbz said on 12/Mar/23
@Emil:

Thank you as well, Emil. Yeah, even though I stopped measuring myself so often after that year, I still felt a little insecure about my height until I hit 6'4-5 or 194-195cm. I guess at 6'3 I was tall but still saw a decent number of guys taller than me. That decreased a lot at 194-195cm and basically never happens now at my current height.

I'm glad you grew out of it as well, but considering where you and AdrianJacobs live, I cannot blame you at all for being insecure about being "only" 6'0 or even considering surgery for it. I felt insecure about being 6'3, and I live in a country that is approx 2" shorter than yours.
Jdubbz said on 12/Mar/23
@Alex:

I drive a 2018 Honda Accord. Legroom is not ideal at all, but I've gotten used to it and I make it work. Luckily after ~6'5 my legs didn't grow at all and the extra inch and change has been in my upper body. An extra inch or inch and a half in my legs would make legroom a whole lot tighter. What car do you drive?
Jdubbz said on 12/Mar/23
Canson said on 11/Mar/23
@Alex: I think even dipping under if it’s your extreme low, you’re a strong 6’0” at worst a legit/solid. You probably don’t go under it at a low. My confusion is the definitions Rob uses as strong to him is someone who doesn’t dip under which is a good way to put it but it could be someone who doesn’t dip under the mark.

I've always seen "strong" as not dipping under the mark even under the worst case scenario (extreme low) and being 1/4" - 3/8" above at a normal low. For example, you and I are strong 6'4 and 6'6, respectively. Your extreme low would be a solid/legit 6'4 guy's normal low, and they may dip to 6'3 7/8 or even 6'3 3/4 at their lowest possible height. I think Alex is a legit or solid 6'0 with his stats, or maybe right between solid and strong. I believe he's like Rob in that his regular low is 1/8" over the mark (I could be wrong on that), so it's a bit trickier to categorize his height.
Caleb 178.8cm said on 12/Mar/23
Sorry I just need to get this off my chest but I think there's no doubt that I overestimate how important a factor height is in women and for my own good should stop being angry over the fact that there aren't as many 6'9"+ women on the planet as I think there should be. 😖
Caleb 178.8cm said on 12/Mar/23
The tallest man I know who doesn't have any growth-related pathological condition and is still alive is 7'8.5" Bob Wegner. He's unofficially the tallest man in the United States. The tallest woman alive without any growth-affecting disorder is Zhang Ziyu, who I suspect might be 7'2.5"-7'3". There might be some naturally-tall women over 6'9" in European countries who just haven't been discovered yet... I mean it's certainly possible for a woman to be over 6'9" naturally since there are naturally-tall males over 220cm. Patiently waiting for the day when people finally discover another woman in Europe who's at least 6'9".
Mariana said on 12/Mar/23
@SandyCowell You're so sweet 😊 Thanks a lot! Yeah I think that in one way 5'4 is kind of like the only height you can feel small like a doll, average/medium and tall like a supermodel in high heels too. Like you can feel three categories all at once being 5'4 as a female. But sometimes I'm so curious what would be like to be 6'0 or 6'1, being taller than almost 100% of other women. As human beings we are so curious and wonder what we would look like at completely another height. All the best 🙌
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 12/Mar/23
Emil@ I’m the same, I was insecure for a bit even though I’m a legit 5.11 3/4 which i guess passes as 6ft anyway just about.. Even my 6ft 6 friend says I’m fairly tall lol.. the thing with someone around my height is you do need fairly good posture otherwise your gunna look 5ft 10 in some situations
Discord said on 12/Mar/23
Rob, how tall a woman could've been in her prime if she was 168 cm when she was 65?
My grandpa in old pics looked same height as my aunt who's 168, she was 65 on that particular picture.
Editor Rob
164-5cm might be a typical range.
adrianjacobs said on 12/Mar/23
@Henrik
I know you're Swedish so you don't like to "stand out" with your opinions, and since everyone here insist the average is like 4'10, you can't express your real opinions. When you first got here, you said you felt upper average at almost 6'2. That would mean the average is nothing below 6ft.
jokey said on 12/Mar/23
dreus23 said on 11/Mar/23

@jokey

To be fair the guy actually did measure 6'1 in a video he uploaded a few weeks ago, and the measurement appeared to be legit. Nonetheless, everyone agrees that his actual perception of height is deluded and that he only notices people taller than him

Also, Jokey, I remember you from about a year ago when you were like the only person who responded to my panic-induced text about realizing that I was barely 5'6.5, you're a great guy. I have grown an inch since then as well

yeah i have seen that video before. I thought it was legit too, but then i remembered the fake measurement video that Rob made when he was measured 5'10 on camera, so i realized that anyone can fake it somehow.

But yeah there are more chances that he is 6'1 and has a wrong perception of his height than he being under that mark.

;) i grew a bit too, around 5/8 of an inch.
Emil said on 12/Mar/23
@Jdubzz

I can absolutely relate to what you're saying and thanks for sharing your own experience.

It's reassuring to hear that even guys at your height can feel insecure, although guys even at my height of 6'0" are comfortably above average height in most places.

At some point, I even contemplated saving up for limb lengthening surgery. Completely absurd, I know, and I'm glad I'm not considering that anymore haha
Sandy Cowell said on 12/Mar/23
@ Mariana - I had a friend called Marianne and sha was a lovey girl, with long, dark, wavy hair. She had two sons with her intelligent boyfriend,

There’s a girl called Marianne who writes on Celebheights.

Have a lovely day, Mariana! 😁🌈
Jdubbz said on 12/Mar/23
@Emil:

Being addicted to measuring your height can be terrible for your mental health. I remember my second year of college I got into a really bad habit of measuring myself multiple times a day. At the time I really wanted to be taller, as I heard guys could grow after 18. I also really didn't enjoy seeing guys on my campus who were taller than me. It got to the point that I was actually insecure about being "only" 6'3, which I know sounds ridiculous. Somehow, each time I measured myself, I thought the result would change. Of course, after repeated measurements, I'd end up even shorter than when I started, which made the cycle even worse. I'm so glad I grew out of that (pun intended), and these days I measure myself maybe twice a year.
Sandy Cowell said on 12/Mar/23
@ Discord - I like your name! It conjures up all manner of catastrophes, but only minor ones….. 😉
Jdubbz said on 11/Mar/23
adrianjacobs said on 10/Mar/23
@Jdubbz
I said it in my comment pretty clearly. Only immigrants and old people are under 6ft, but they exist. A young ethnic Swedish man below 6ft where I live is something out of the ordinary.

Yes, but based on the average height you're claiming for ethnic Swedish men, that doesn't make sense. The average height would have to be WAY higher than 6'1-2 or even 6'2 for 6'0 to be out of the ordinary, and that's just not possible.
Canson said on 11/Mar/23
@Alex: I think even dipping under if it’s your extreme low, you’re a strong 6’0” at worst a legit/solid. You probably don’t go under it at a low. My confusion is the definitions Rob uses as strong to him is someone who doesn’t dip under which is a good way to put it but it could be someone who doesn’t dip under the mark.
Canson said on 11/Mar/23
@Alex: A Camry is a good size car. I’ve driven one a few times. My wife has a highlander and we’ve gotten a camry as a loaner before when she’s put her car in for service. Christian 6’5 3/8 drives a camry as well
Henrik said on 11/Mar/23
Now, I don't proclaim to be a math expert, but I do believe that the Swedish average would have to be something like 6ft 6 at the very least if you could say that virtually no Swede was under 6ft...
Big Ben said on 11/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs - I didn’t even vote for Jimmie Åkesson.
Sandy Cowell said on 11/Mar/23
@ Mariana - What a lovely name you have!

I’d be happy to be 5ft4, as you can feel almost tall in high heels. I remember the confidence boost they gave me. After my hip replacement surgery, I’ve found it hard to wear them, but there was a time when I wore them all the time and felt uncomfortable in trainers.

It’s great to have another girl on Celebheights! 👩‍🦰🌈👌🏼
adrianjacobs said on 11/Mar/23
Okidoki said on 10/Mar/23
When going to crowded places such as shopping malls, bars etc, it can often seem that the average is 6'1 for men and around 5'8 for women. I suddenly see groups of 6'1-6'2 guys and women of 5'8-5'9 there for example, so the average can at times seem that high.

Just as often though, the average in everyday life, when walking about around everywhere, can seem anywhere between 5'10-6'0 for men and 5'5-5'7 for women.
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Could you explain to me how the average is 5'11 if the average seems like 6'1-6'2 just as often as it seems like 5'10-6'0? Shouldn't it logically be 6'0.25?
adrianjacobs said on 11/Mar/23
@Jdubbz
Ngl, based on the things people say here, and some of the celebrity listings I see here, I feel like 5'10 very often. That's why I uploaded a video me measuring myself to ask you if you could see any issues with my measurement.

I can't even begin to imagine how some of the actors listed here at around 6ft, like Nicolas Cage and Christian Bale are shorter than me. I'm almost completely sure that they would be at least eye to eye with me if I met them.
Arch Stanton said on 11/Mar/23
Is there any way we could do polls on here, you know like they have on twitter? I think it would be very useful to be able to run polls and see what the average response is and to document it. Or perhaps have a page for polls and each month have a different topic and record what people say. For one, I'd like to see a poll of all users on what their ideal height would be, and what height they start to consider too tall etc.
Editor Rob
I did try a few youtube polls in the past, but never really continued. Might be worth considering again.
dreus23 said on 11/Mar/23
@ Marian

Both 5'2 and 5'4 are definitely within the normal height ranges for women. 5'2 is the lower lower end while 5'4 is near solid average, so yeah there is definitely a difference. With that said, I wouldn't say it's a "big" difference; like standing next to each other, there would be a quite noticeable difference, but in day-to-day life it would take a trained eye to see a solid height difference between the two. How people of these two heights experience things though, I'd say there could be a difference, since 5'4 is pretty much around average height while 5'2 is noticeably below average

@jokey

To be fair the guy actually did measure 6'1 in a video he uploaded a few weeks ago, and the measurement appeared to be legit. Nonetheless, everyone agrees that his actual perception of height is deluded and that he only notices people taller than him

Also, Jokey, I remember you from about a year ago when you were like the only person who responded to my panic-induced text about realizing that I was barely 5'6.5, you're a great guy. I have grown an inch since then as well!
Emil said on 11/Mar/23
@Rob

There have been prolonged periods of time in my life where I would measure myself every single day, 4-5 times a day even, and I noticed it made me develop some sort of short man complex, although I'm 6'0".

Measuring yourself every day doesn't seem good for your mental health. Do you agree?
Editor Rob
It can certainly mess with your mind. You have to watch the signs of change, when you start going from having an interest in a topic to then becoming obsessed with it, to the point it starts forming negative thoughts.
Emil said on 11/Mar/23
Let's tone down the troll accusation, guys. We might disagree, but everyone is entitled to their opinions.
Discord said on 11/Mar/23
@Editor Rob

So you would have list me at flat 5'10, hypothetically?
Editor Rob
Maybe close to that
5'7 Heaven said on 10/Mar/23
Am I likely a legitimate 5'7"? I measured 5'7" at each doctor's appointment I had at 15 and 16 years old. At that point, the GP told me I was probably finished growing.

I was next measured at 17 where I raised up on the heel slightly and reached 5'7.75". I was measured again at 19 where I made sure not to raise up on my heel, but stretched myself up as far as I could to the point I was twitching, and reached 5'7.5".

When I stand up next to a tape measure barefoot, I look like I'm closer to 5'8". In person, most people guess my height at either 5'8" or "5'7 or 5'8"". A few people have guessed my height at 5'9" in the past.

I live in a young major city and I feel like I'm constantly oscillating between feeling very short and very average throughout the course of a given day.

In addition what would a 5'8" or 5'9" person look like to me in similar footware? One of my sisters claims 5'8" but she's very obviously taller than me, she manages to look my height by wearing flat soled shoes and slouching slightly in pictures. The other sister looks noticeably taller than me barefoot, but I look the same or slightly taller if she's wearing flat shoes and I'm wearing 1.2" running shoes.
Poster said on 10/Mar/23
@Mariana: Most people would see 5'4 and 5'2 as normal heights for women. 5'2 is short, but it's not *very* short. 5'4 is close to average in most locations in the USA. Those heights have no disadvantages at all in most areas (the Netherlands might be an exception in some ways).
Jdubbz said on 10/Mar/23
@jokey:

I thought the same, but AdrianJacobs posted a video measurement a few weeks ago. I guess it's possible he faked it, but by all means it looked legit to me. What's far more likely is that he has a major perception issue.
Okidoki said on 10/Mar/23
In everyday settings though, the average is probably around 5'11 and 5'6 overall.
Okidoki said on 10/Mar/23
@Rockaways 193 cm, it's kinda above average, you know XD

I can see what Adrian means and as i am from Scandinavia, i can explain. But that the people in Copenhagen are around 2 inches shorter than people in Stockholm, sounds unrealistic.¨

Because ethnic Nordic people have similar genes, so they should be close to each other interms of height. Atleast stats wise, they are all close. Young people according to valid sources are between 5'11-5'11.75.

So, when i see people between 20-45 years old let's say for example:

When going to crowded places such as shopping malls, bars etc, it can often seem that the average is 6'1 for men and around 5'8 for women. I suddenly see groups of 6'1-6'2 guys and women of 5'8-5'9 there for example, so the average can at times seem that high.

Just as often though, the average in everyday life, when walking about around everywhere, can seem anywhere between 5'10-6'0 for men and 5'5-5'7 for women.

So yes, in crowded settings, the average can often seem higher, but in everyday life, the average that is mentioned looks about right though. Most people i see use 2-3 cm shoes, some use 2 inch shoes though, particularly in the Winter in my opinion.
adrianjacobs said on 10/Mar/23
@John185
Okay, 5'11.5 excluding the financial districts, but if you take them into account as well (I don't really understand why you shouldn't?), the average should be about 6ft, no?
Discord said on 10/Mar/23
Click Here=

Rob, how tall do you think i am(left) if the guy on right is 181 cm?
Editor Rob
Could look 3-4cm difference.
adrianjacobs said on 10/Mar/23
@Rockaway
Okay, I'm saying ridiculous things, I'm delusional, need help, and I will squat and bend down when I measure myself so that I get to 5'10 or 5'11 and I will claim that height.

Will you please answer this now?
"You can source whatever you’d like, I still won’t agree with 6’4 in Sweden being the equivalent of 6’1.8” in the US."- Said by you on 3/Mar/23
adrianjacobs said on 10/Mar/23
@Henrik
Or maybe that's just the way 6'1 (or 6'0.75) looks like in a crowd?
I really don't know how you want me to measure myself to get to the 5'10 you you're saying I look like. Should I bend down when I measure myself?

@Rob
If you watched the video where I measured myself, do you think it looked like I may have overmeasured myself?
adrianjacobs said on 10/Mar/23
@jokey
Here's a video of me measuring myself, which I also uploaded a couple of weeks ago :) It was midday so you can subtract a quarter of an inch to know my evening height. Click Here
adrianjacobs said on 10/Mar/23
@Jdubbz
I said it in my comment pretty clearly. Only immigrants and old people are under 6ft, but they exist. A young ethnic Swedish man below 6ft where I live is something out of the ordinary.
adrianjacobs said on 10/Mar/23
@Ben - 186cm
No, the average is not 5'11 in Stockholm. Most of the non-swedish people here who have been in Stockholm agree that it's over 6feet, because there's simply not much to argue or reflect over. @John185 thought it was 6'1.5 midday and that's fairly reasonable in my opinion.
Sandy Cowell said on 9/Mar/23
@ Rockaway - Joey Ramone is 6ft6, and the second tallest rock singer on the site.
Sandy Cowell said on 9/Mar/23
@ Rockaway - The Ramones have a song called Rockaway Beach. Joey Ramone is HUGE!

Cheers Rockaway! 😁
Rockaway said on 9/Mar/23
@adrian it’s amusing to me that you’re asking me to seriously answer you, after you non-ironically cited a handful of photos with a dozen or so people in them, at varying lengths away from the camera, as “evidence” to support your ludicrous claim. I’ve seen some out of touch things said on this site, but 6’4 being tallish takes the cake. You should really stop obsessing over people taller than you, I hope you find the help you need.
Preeme said on 9/Mar/23
Hey Rob, what would be your estimate on this girl’s height? Click Here
Editor Rob
With her legs spread apart, she's losing at least an inch. I'd have thought in the tall range.
jokey said on 9/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs the fact that someone called you 5'9 out of the blue, you don't look 6'1 in photos (i thought you were around 5'10 first time i saw that pic) and you constantly inflate others height to validate your claim makes me think (and i think now a few of people here do) that you're not a legit 6'1 and not even 6'0.

it's literally impossible to feel below average at 6'1.
Henrik said on 9/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs

I think you look shorter in most of those pics because you're bending your legs. You seem to appear somewhat taller in the last picture (when you're standing more straight).
Alex 6'0 said on 9/Mar/23
6'4 is tall anywhere you go in the world. Most countries its very tall and some extremely tall. The Netherlands it would only be tall not very tall considering an average man of 184cm.
John185 said on 9/Mar/23
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 6/Mar/23
John185@ Of course you will feel tall in general at 185cm, I had a business meeting on the Cornwall and Devon border last week and I was the tallest person out of 12 people in the room, granted I hadn’t picked up a chainsaw that day or done anything really strenuous but even a 5.11 dude like me should sometimes feel tallish in some rare situations.. John do you claim 6ft or 6ft 1 if asked?


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@(Billythetreesurgeon)

"I had a business meeting on the Cornwall and Devon border last week and I was the tallest person out of 12 people in the room".
- Somehow, I'm not especially surprised by this statement.

I would actually classify 5'11 as the start of tall in parts of Devon and Cornwall as opposed to just tallish.
..Seems to me that some areas have an average of 5'8.5/5'9 for young men. But because these places also have many more inhabitants over the age of 50, the average as a whole can sometimes be as low as 5'7.5/5'8.

I claim 6'1. Although if the topic of height gets discussed in any detail (for example if I'm having a conversation with a woman I'm dating) I might also mention that I'm 6'0 3/4 at a low.
John185 said on 9/Mar/23
adrianjacobs said on 5/Mar/23
@John185
How does it add up to 5'11.5 for all social demographics if the average was 6-6'2 in the financial districts? Was the average 5'10 somewhere?


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@adrianjacobs

181cm/182cm - (5'11.5) seemed to be the collective average for young Swedes in Stockholm excluding the financial districts which by themselves are 6'0.5.
I did say that the average appeared to be 6'1/6'2 after observing around 50 men at midday, but subsequently at 4pm having gauged the heights of several hundred more I revised this to 6'0.5.
The disparity between rich and poor is not quite as pronounced in Sweden as it is in England for example, but the financial districts are a minority subset compared to the population at large.

In the north of Sweden the average is around 178cm - 180cm depending on how northerly you travel. Some of the indigenous or less mixed populations have short averages by European standards.
Big Ben said on 9/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs - I don’t think it’s 177? I’ve said before I’m in the average range. He’s not squatting, just standing with a relaxed posture in selfies with people for some reason. When talking to people he stands straight and I was a little taller than him when he stood straight. But whatever floats your boat.
Vick said on 8/Mar/23
@186 cm-Yeah, it is like trying to find a needle on a haystack of course they are there probably in sports like Volleyball. At 6’1 you definitely will be the tallest guy in the room. If I walked around there as a 6’0 guy I would feel tall too vs above average here in California.
Ben - 186cm said on 8/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs

The tallest country in the world is the Netherlands and their average height is just shy of 6 feet. A quick Google search will show you that average height in Sweden is 5’11.

Either you have a bad perception of height and don’t know what certain heights look like, or you’re insecure and only notice taller guys while ignoring shorter ones, because more than half the men in Sweden are below 6 feet. It may slightly vary between different cities by coincidence, but only slightly. Men in Stockholm are not multiple inches taller than men in Copenhagen lol. You’re imagining it.
Mariana said on 8/Mar/23
Hi everyone! How much advantage or in other words how much better is 5'4 as the height of women versus 5'2 women. What do you guys think? I'm curios to know your opinion because even though 5'4 is considered kind of short nowadays, but I still feel it's a normal height compared to 5'2 which is always considered short. Thanks!
Alex 6'0 said on 8/Mar/23
Jdubzz, what kind of car do you drive? I know guys in very tall range who drive sedans. 6'5 guy drives a camry. He manages.
Discord said on 8/Mar/23
Hi Rob, i want to ask you a question i had in my head for a while now. I have 2 friends who both got measured 181 cm on stadiometer during physical exam, and both of them got measured at 180 cm with my tape measure. Same goes to my older cousin who claims 171 cm, but got measured 170 cm with my tape measure. Mind you, tape measure is quite old one. So would you say they get 1 cm error because tape measure is old, or is that more accurate measurement?
Editor Rob
1cm difference isn't huge, because when people get measured at Doctor offices, there's as much chance they are sitting on say 180.5 as 181 and it will get rounded.

However if you are good at measuring somebody, and you know the tape and wall/floor is flat, then your figure could be bang on.
Ruku said on 8/Mar/23
Rob I am commenting again to let you know the extent to how much people lie about their heights. I am deeply sickened with how much people overinflate their heights that it's not even funny anymore. It's pathetic. Here is the link to the guy who claims to be 6 feet tall.

Click Here
Ruku said on 8/Mar/23
Rob, can you tell me why people like these lie so much about their height? He claims to be 6 feet tall when he hardly looks taller than someone who claims to be 5 foot 9. Even the model, Pia Wurtzbach who you have listed on this sight as 1.70m looks taller than these fake claimers with 3 inch heels.

I'm starting to meet more and more people that make these fake claims that they are actually 6 feet tall, when they are clearly somewhere closer my height (1.74m). I think this is why a lot of people think guys who are of average height are shorter than they actually are.

Click Here
Editor Rob
Some people like to be seen as more impressive than they actually are, and boosting height is an easy one.

Now people who visit sites like this do question these claims! However, the vast majority of fans aren't going to be giving what the celebrity claims that much thought...
Alex 6'0 said on 7/Mar/23
Canson, i do agree with what you said recently. 1/8-1/4 round down. 3/8-5/8 claim the 1/2 and 3/4-7/8 round up. These are obviously for normal lows. Typically I'm 6'0 1/8 lunchtime or 6'0.25 on relaxed days but my life is pretty active so more often I'm going be 6'0 in afternoons or a bit under on really physical days such as work plus gym by the evenings.
Mariana said on 7/Mar/23
Please Guys, discuss female height also, what do you think for example of 5'4 as a female height, which is the average height of USA 🇺🇸, UK 🇬🇧, Spain 🇪🇸, South Korea 🇰🇷 and some other countries in the 🌎
Editor Rob
For 18-30 range in the UK 5ft 4-4.5 starts to look quite average range nowadays.
Emil said on 7/Mar/23
Big Ben said on 7/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs - Bror, tagga ner. It’s just height, Sweden can be 6’4” if you want to. Boom, there you go, you’re short.

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Lmao 💀
Jdubbz said on 7/Mar/23
@Darksol64:

Wow, I'm a bit surprised you experience such persistent back pain at your height. Of course 6'2ish is solidly tall, but most tall guys with moderate to severe back pain are usually over 6'4 or 6'5 at least. The longer torso/shorter legs probably contribute, in addition to your smaller joints for your height, but I'm still surprised. With my stats (7.8" wrists and 37" pants inseam, so average to slightly above average frame size and leg length for my height), I only experience back pain when I go through long bouts of inactivity or if I'm much more overweight than I need to be. Based on the picture you posted a while back, I don't think the latter applies to you.

In my case, any physical activity (especially things like weighted planks and pull-ups, but even walking or running) eliminate or mitigate it pretty quickly. Omega 3 supplementation and glucosamine help too, if you haven't tried those before. Another thing that helped me was sleeping with a pillow under my knees. A while back I also suffered from some postural issues (kyphosis and anterior pelvic tilt) that not only exacerbated back pain but also stole a half inch from my true height. Being very tall and being hunched over a laptop all day is hell on your back. Thankfully I managed to correct and at least slightly reverse those issues with some exercises I found on YouTube.

I still have slight APT, but my kyphosis is all but eliminated, and I went from a weak 6'6 to a strong 6'6 thanks to postural improvements. I'm not sure if Rob allows YouTube links, but the video is called "excercises to correct hunchback posture, kyphosis and forward head carriage". I still do these exercises daily, and they help so much. Even if you don't suffer from those problems, strengthening the underlying muscles should help quite a bit with your back pain. Good luck, and I hope the pain improves for you.
Jdubbz said on 7/Mar/23
adrianjacobs said on 6/Mar/23
@Emil
Sure, it's a very solid 6'1.5 in the afternoon in Stockholm, maybe not 6'2-6'3, and the standard deviation is very narrow. I do see men under 6ft sometimes, but it's nearly always old people and immigrants. Young ethnic swedes are virtually never under 6ft.

This is a bit of a confusing statement...if the average is 6'1.5, how is it so rare to see a young ethnic Swede under 6 foot? Even with a super small 6cm standard deviation, heights under 6 foot would still represent 1/4 of the male population. That's still quite common, relatively speaking.
Jdubbz said on 7/Mar/23
185cmJeff said on 6/Mar/23
@Jonus
We are practically the same height and age, I’m 26 in a few months time. I’m 187cm in the morning.
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Not close to y'alls height, but I'm turning 26 in a few months as well. Any other 25-26 year olds here?
Rockaway said on 7/Mar/23
Guys lets just move on, don't feed the troll. He can believe whatever he wants, no matter how delusional it might be
adrianjacobs said on 7/Mar/23
@Big Ben- Bror, no it's totally 177, 178 or whatever you said because you can obviously not be below average. And I suppose we are supposed to use our imagination to estimate Jimmie Åkesson's height next to you when he is literally squatting?
adrianjacobs said on 7/Mar/23
@Rockaway
This is how I look at 185cm in central Stockholm: Click Here
Is that the way you imagine a person above average height looks like?

I said 6'4 was borderline tallish/tall. I don't know how much above average you need to be to have the title "tallish" or "tall", so it's just the way I call it. If you scroll down to the day before yesterday, 5/Mar/23, you'll see that @John185 also estimated the average height of people in the "financial districts" of Stockholm to be 6'1-6'2 at midday.

And again, would you please answer my question? You call me a troll, but you "refuse" to believe sources that say a 6'4 man is the same as 6'1.8 in America. Why do you think your intuition is more accurate than the statistical numbers? Would you seriously please answer that?
Mickie said on 7/Mar/23
@Rob - how tall is Patrick Bet-David? I heard him claim 6'5" which surprised me, so I looked at some photos of him. He does look a very tall guy, I'm thinking maybe he could measure like a weak 6'4"? Click Here
Click Here
Big Ben said on 7/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs - Bror, tagga ner. It’s just height, Sweden can be 6’4” if you want to. Boom, there you go, you’re short.
Ht said on 6/Mar/23
Rob
How tall do you think Australian horticulturist/HGTV host Jamie Durie is?
Something about his structure looks Tom Cruisey, maybe a little shorter. What do you think?
185cmJeff said on 6/Mar/23
@Jonus
We are practically the same height and age, I’m 26 in a few months time. I’m 187cm in the morning.
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So guys I just recently turned 26 and I think it's fair to say I am now at an age where I don't obsess over my height anymore loool. I am not getting any taller and tbh with you I am very satisfied with my height now, I'm 187cm in the morning and 185.5 at night. Extreme low I'm 185cm or a tad below. I feel tall but not extremely tall, it's a very good looking height. Really happy with that If I'm being honest - I tell the ladies I'm 6'2 hahaha. To all the young folk on celebheights, keep exercising and eat a lot of healthy foods to maximise growth! When I was 18, I was 185cm in the morning and now at 26 I managed to get to 187cm in the morning! Late bloomer. Good luck guys!
Jdubbz said on 6/Mar/23
@Kellan

1) Overblown unless you're 7 foot tall 2) Overblown unless you're 7 foot tall 3) Preventable with physical activity 4) Economy plus 5) Get an SUV or larger sedan 6) Adjustable shower head 7) Queen or king sized bed 8) Buy online 9) Non issue unless you're 6'8+ or otherwise have terrible spatial awareness 10) This is not a con
186cm said on 6/Mar/23
@Vick
Wow, 6’2” Japanese lady sounds extraordinarily rare. I don’t even think I’ve met a western or African lady over that height. But yeah, For some reason I couldn’t seem to find anybody over 6’2” in Japan. Tallest woman I could spot was probably 5’8” or maybe 5’9”, I couldn’t really pinpoint it. On average, I think the women are shorter than the 5’2” Google has sampled. Not by very much, just like 5’1”. For the men however, 5’7” is probably bang on what the average is. And I was staying in Tokyo, Shinjuku/Shibuya area, which is VERY populated, and still did not see anyone over 188cm. Now I’m in Hakone and I feel like a giant, since it’s a less urban area.
Rockaway said on 6/Mar/23
@Adrian is clearly a troll that has an obsession with only noticing people who are taller than him, and an odd sense of pride in his false claims of seeing 6'2 being an average height when he walks around his city. Just simply impossible statistically speaking regardless of what his delusions may trance him into thinking. Nobody should be taken seriously claiming 6'4 as tallish
Progking185 said on 6/Mar/23
@Jonus yeah its a great height, my range is about 1-1.5 cm below yours(186-184) and i feel fairly tall. In some shoes/boots im about your height i guess, its definitely start of tall around most people, solid tall in general population.
Henrik said on 6/Mar/23
@Darksol64

I am similar to your height and I struggle with back pain too, but I always thought that was due to too much inactivity and not something height-related.
Kellan said on 6/Mar/23
@JDubbz such as life expectancy, increased cancer risk, back and knee pain, planes, cars, shower heads, beds, clothes/shoes, bumping your head, tall comments, and other issues related to being far from the average height of all adults.
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 6/Mar/23
John185@ Of course you will feel tall in general at 185cm, I had a business meeting on the Cornwall and Devon border last week and I was the tallest person out of 12 people in the room, granted I hadn’t picked up a chainsaw that day or done anything really strenuous but even a 5.11 dude like me should sometimes feel tallish in some rare situations.. John do you claim 6ft or 6ft 1 if asked?
Canson said on 6/Mar/23
@Alex: yea if 6’1.75 is his afternoon, unless he dips another 1/4” regularly, I’d round up too
adrianjacobs said on 6/Mar/23
@Emil
Sure, it's a very solid 6'1.5 in the afternoon in Stockholm, maybe not 6'2-6'3, and the standard deviation is very narrow. I do see men under 6ft sometimes, but it's nearly always old people and immigrants. Young ethnic swedes are virtually never under 6ft.
adrianjacobs said on 6/Mar/23
@Rockaway
You said you won't believe any source that says a 6'4 man in Sweden is the equivalent of 6'1.8 in the US. That's what you said. A bit strange of you, given that you haven't been in Sweden, no?
Jooi said on 5/Mar/23
Rob is a skull of 9.5in length and 23.25in circumference average for 174cm
Editor Rob
Length and circumference-wise, it is a decent fraction longer than average.
Jonus said on 5/Mar/23
So guys I just recently turned 26 and I think it's fair to say I am now at an age where I don't obsess over my height anymore loool. I am not getting any taller and tbh with you I am very satisfied with my height now, I'm 187cm in the morning and 185.5 at night. Extreme low I'm 185cm or a tad below. I feel tall but not extremely tall, it's a very good looking height. Really happy with that If I'm being honest - I tell the ladies I'm 6'2 hahaha. To all the young folk on celebheights, keep exercising and eat a lot of healthy foods to maximise growth! When I was 18, I was 185cm in the morning and now at 26 I managed to get to 187cm in the morning! Late bloomer. Good luck guys!
Alex 6'0 said on 5/Mar/23
QM6'1.5, why claim 6'1.5 with a 6'1.75 evening height meaning 6'1 7/8 afternoon and would get a 6'2 listing
Vick said on 5/Mar/23
@186 cm-Tokyo would probably have a greater density of men over 6’2 given the higher population levels (14 million). The northern prefectures tend to be better educated, with adequate nutrition, and access to be better quality health care which is correlated with taller heights. One guy here said he met a 6’2 Japanese lady a few months back, rare but they are out there depends if it’s a metropolitan area and people are still out in the day time.
adrianjacobs said on 5/Mar/23
@John185
How does it add up to 5'11.5 for all social demographics if the average was 6-6'2 in the financial districts? Was the average 5'10 somewhere?
Darksol64 said on 5/Mar/23
@186cm

Wow! I always thought the Japanese were even shorter than that but I just checked the percentage calculator and sure enough the average guy in Japan is a little over 5'7. Almost 2 inches shorter on average than here in the US.

It's showing 6'2 as 98% like you said, or 1 in 65 are taller than that versus 1 in 19 in the US/UK.

So according to the stats it would be roughly equal to seeing a 6'4 guy in the US, which isn't super rare but not common either meaning sometimes you can go out in public and not see a 6'4+ guy, same as 6'2 in Japan.

@ Henrik

I'm a weak 6'2 guy with shorter than average legs and a long, narrow spine with super small joints (Barely 6" wrist, most 6 ft guys would be 8") and I'm always fighting back pain and I'm only 33. However I know bigger-framed guys with shorter spines that have no problems. Some guys well over 6 ft are free of back pain, it just depends on genetics and fitness/health. I drew pretty bad genes for back pain, plus my fitness admittedly isn't great either.

As far as a shorter life goes, that tends to hold true but I'd say for 99% of tall people it's negligible. Richard Kiel who was a towering 7'2 lived to 75, so unless you're near or above the 7 ft range I wouldn't worry about it. I would guess there's very, very little or even no statistical difference for age of death between 5'4 guys and 6'0 guys. Poor Richard was crippled by his 50s though, so fitness and posture is critical especially when you get near the 6'6 zone and beyond. And even that isn't a guarantee but it damn sure can't hurt.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 5/Mar/23
Meltdown said on 5/Mar/23

Yeah, I'm at least 189cms in the morning (book and VHS method, lol).
I know one mate who's claimed 6'2" and we just eye to eye, maybe few mm between us.

186cm said on 5/Mar/23

6'2" is commonly someone of 186-187cms in the evening - so solid 6'1.5", and real/strong 6'2" should be about 188.6-189 afternoon.
A real 6'2" guys have tend to claim 6'3" most of times(

Heights like 6'2-6'3" and over is something about sport context/ football, basketball, baseball.
And people of this tall (including myself) "normally" addicted to the sports and athletism and well conscious their height by mine experience!
adrianjacobs said on 5/Mar/23
@dreus23
Did I say that the average in one country affects the average in another country?
If Sweden is one of the tallest countries in the world and only has an average of 5'10, wouldn't that mean that the average was 5'8 in most other western countries? Does that sound right to you? Please explain that. Seriously, please answer.
Emil said on 5/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs

I think 5'10" as the average height is also off, but so is 6'2-6'3. Not to mention that saying it's very rare to see someone below 6 foot is a quite illogical statement.

And let's imagine for a sec average height really is 6'2-6'3, that'd mean that very very rare is only 2-3 inches below average. Is it also very very rare to see someone who's 2-3 inches above set average then? You've said yourself 6'4 isn't an uncommon height in Sweden, so why would below 6'0" be? Doesn't really make sense.
Emil said on 5/Mar/23
@John185

I think that sounds plausible.
Rockaway said on 5/Mar/23
@adrian why would I need a source to back up my assertion that 6’4 isn’t “tallish” anywhere in the world? It’s just common sense. Anyone who can think objectively without bias understands this. I mean, it’s as simple as, 5’11 is considered tallish in the US, and 5’9 is accepted as the average male height. For 6’4 to be tallish, the average height equivalent would need to be 6’2. Please show me a single article/report of a country with an average height of 6’2?
Alex 6'0 said on 5/Mar/23
Jdubzz, i really can't judge but id try out solid 6'6 for a day and see if i liked it. Had a friend who was almost 6'5. 6'4.75 and he loved his height. Said he'd never wanna be average or short.
Alex 6'0 said on 5/Mar/23
Would i rather gain 5 inches become 6'5 or lose 5 inches and be 5'7? I kinda lean towards 6'5 honestly. 6'5 is very tall and 5'7 is only considered short not very short.
Henrik said on 5/Mar/23
The only backside of being tall that I know of is that it's sometimes said that tall people are more prone to back problems. I think I've also seen somewhere that tall people don't live as long.
adrianjacobs said on 5/Mar/23
@Rockaway
Why do you think you have the audacity to say you won't believe any source that says that? Especially if you haven't been in Sweden?
186cm said on 5/Mar/23
You know, I’ve been in Japan for a couple days, and the Japanese aren’t much much shorter than Americans. I haven’t seen a single Japanese person over 6’2” however. I believe that’s about 98th percentile. Is over 6’2” very very rare? I’m wondering because I’ve seen thousands and thousands of people during my stay here, and like I said, nobody is over 6’2”. I’ve been in very urban areas though. I’ve seen many 6 foot Japanese people though. Seems like the average here is 5’6”-5’7” for men and a little than the 5’2” google provides on average for women I think.
John185 said on 5/Mar/23
Emil said on 3/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs

Sorry, dude, but your perception seems a bit off. Its very very rare to see men below 6'0" in Stockholm? And average height is 6'2-6'3"?
I have friends living in Stockholm and been there a couple times, and that's definitely not my perception. I've seen numerous Swedish guys in Stockholm below 6 foot. I agree that 6'0-6'1 seems pretty average, but it's not uncommon to see Swedes below 6 foot, come on. Complete nonsense

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I think it reasonable for me to chime in on your statement Emil, I have also met plenty of short Swedes, but some were indigenous or otherwise from the central or northern provinces.
My first experience in Stockholm was in the financial districts, and it's pretty fair to say that my conclusion was the average after observing heights of around 50 men appeared to be as much as 6'1/6'2 midday. I was wearing converse shoes so 186cm was probably the adjusted average.
Interestingly, after assessing several hundred people (in suits) around 4pm, the average was around 183.5cm/184cm gauging to the best of my ability.

Having said this I can say with a great degree of certainty that in Stockholm as a collective the young male average for all social demographics is around 181cm/182cm at a normal low.
The evening/late night average is around 181.5cm. (5'11.5cm.)

Speaking of Sweden and Finland - but just as much so Norway, there is a notable disparity of average height between the northern and southern regions.
Emil said on 5/Mar/23
adrianjacobs said on 2/Mar/23
@dreus23
Is there a reason you never ever answer when I ask you something? It's kind of irritating.

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Dude for real, calm down.
dreus23 said on 5/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs

Why would the average height for one country affect the average height for another country? It's not like there's a selective amount of "height points" that every country has to collect for their population. The average male height measured in the UK is apparently 5ft 9, and the average male height in Sweden (no idea if it was measured or self-reported) was 5ft 11. But that hardly means that these are logical "equivalents" of each other in those countries, i.e "a 6'3 guy in the UK would be like 6'1 in Sweden" or "a 5'9 guy in the UK would be like 5'7 in Sweden"; that's not what "average" means

If you are referring to the "Swedish ethnicity", then I'm not sure that I can help you, since I've been referring to the general male average of the Swedish country all this time, regardless of ethnicity, but I guess maybe it would be like one cm higher if we only included "ethnically Swedish people"
Meltdown said on 5/Mar/23
@ QM6'1.5"QM said on 2/Mar/23

If you're 6'1.75" at 9pm, you're easily 6'2.5" out of bed. You'd be a strong 6'2" here at least, if not slightly taller, depending likely on your morning height.
Poster said on 4/Mar/23
Caleb asked a question. Gwendolyn Gillingham is 6'7! She and Jim McIlvaine can make their own basketball team. He's her husband, by the way.
Alex 6'0 said on 4/Mar/23
Viper, some guys like their pants longer but then its too bunched up. No 5'10 man has long legs to fit 34 length properly lol. 32 inseam fits me well. My 6'2.5 friend he even does 32 inseam but hes mostly longer torso
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 4/Mar/23
Could you add Kel Mitchell Rob? I think 5'8 is fair.
Jdubbz said on 4/Mar/23
Kellan said on 2/Mar/23
@5’7” Heaven I agree the benefits of tall are overblown, and being very tall has more cons than pros

Such as? It's always baffling to me how guys who are a far cry from very tall seem to know exactly what it's like.
Jdubbz said on 4/Mar/23
adrianposter said on 1/Mar/23
at what height do you guys think someone starts to have the “tall guy” look i think it starts at like 184-186 cm

I think guys generally have that look at 190cm and up.
Rick84q said on 3/Mar/23
@italianguy me too men at 193cm im so lanky still at 79kg, I mean I weight more than most still look very lanky trying to put some weight to atleast 90 and going to the gym.
Sean Forrest said on 3/Mar/23
Thanks Rob, final question could it be likely to clear 3" height if you picked the 4" style midsoletech from Dons Click Here
Editor Rob
Yes there's a better chance of clearing 3 inch there, especially since the thickness of the sole at the front is quite big!
Rockaway said on 3/Mar/23
No what I said was quite clear. 6’4 is solid tall anywhere on planet earth, and very tall in 99% of situations. You can source whatever you’d like, I still won’t agree with 6’4 in Sweden being the equivalent of 6’1.8” in the US. Which, if you can use a bit of extrapolation logic, does not imply that I think the US and Sweden are similar in height, Sweden is obviously taller. My main point was it’s absolutely lunacy to refer as 6’4 as “tallish” anywhere on planet earth.
adrianjacobs said on 3/Mar/23
@Emil
And you're telling me that my perception is off? What about @dreus23 who says that the Swedish average is 5'10?
adrianjacobs said on 3/Mar/23
@Emil
Uncommon in my experience for sure, I feel very down to earth walking down the streets in Stockholm, which you can probably see in my photos too.
Emil said on 3/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs

Sorry, dude, but your perception seems a bit off. Its very very rare to see men below 6'0" in Stockholm? And average height is 6'2-6'3"?
I have friends living in Stockholm and been there a couple times, and that's definitely not my perception. I've seen numerous Swedish guys in Stockholm below 6 foot. I agree that 6'0-6'1 seems pretty average, but it's not uncommon to see Swedes below 6 foot, come on. Complete nonsense
adrianjacobs said on 3/Mar/23
@dreus23
OK, but I'm just trying to understand one thing. Please answer this. If Swedish men are 5'9-5'11 on average like you say, how tall are men in other western countries outside of Scandinavia? For example the UK? Or America?

Again, please answer that.
adrianjacobs said on 3/Mar/23
@Emil
They are taller than many other regions of Sweden. I've said that several times before.
People in Stockholm are A LOT taller than people in Copenhagen though. Men in Copenhagen in general seem to be more "normal-sized" compared to Stockholm. They really did seem to be 5'11-6'1 on average when I was there last summer and not 6'2-6'3 like Stockholm. It wasn't uncommon for me to see men below 6ft in Copenhagen, which is very very rare in Stockholm.
adrianjacobs said on 3/Mar/23
@QM6'1.5"QM
You would be listed at 6'1.75, since he lists everyone at their evening height, including himself.
Meltdown said on 2/Mar/23
@5'7 Heaven said on 27/Feb/23

This is because too many people inflate their heights. Even taller guys will add an inch or two. In Hollywood, many add two or three inches. It's ridiculous! The end result is all men under 5'9 are considered short, when actually 5'9 is practically 50 percentile.

Take me for example. I'm 5'10 out of bed, so during most of the day I am 5'9.5 barefoot. If I claim that height, people will picture me at 5'8 or less because the common consensus of height is 2 inches taller than the reality. So I claim my morning height of 5'10 and still people are surprised that I am as tall as I am being 5'9.5 mid-day. We need to fix this height bias stigma. It's a problem in our current society.
Zaratustraelsabio said on 2/Mar/23
@Caleb 178.8cm

Thanks Caleb for the Gwen photo, it is sad the lack of protagonism of the women in this forum.

She is very attractive.
dreus23 said on 2/Mar/23
@adrianjacobs

Funnily enough, yeah, one of the guys is a pro american football player who is frequently measured both in height and weight since he's 190-191 cm and weighs like 70 kg. He basically wants to keep track of his weight since he's always been very thin and for the sport being heavy is an advantage, especially if you're around his height

He gets alot of girls, not because he's especially charming, good-looking, funny (I guess he could get one or two points in that aspect if I'm being nice), kind, reasonable, fatherly, good-smelling, smart (definitely has minus points in that aspect), hairy, or even masculine, but because he's an especially tall and lanky guy, who's typically the tallest person in 99% of situations

I feel like the archetypical Swedish guy from a decent middle class suburb is 5'9-5'11, light brown hair, green or blue eyes, has a 5'10-6'0 dad, a 5'4-5'7 mom, one younger brother who's 5'8-5'9 constantly made fun of for being "the small one" while claiming to be "5'11" and thus "average", and one older brother who's like 6'1-6'3 who no one knows where the tall genes came from (most likely from like a 6'3-6'4 grandfather). This is just jokes ofc, but I feel like there is some truth to it based on the people I know lol
Kellan said on 2/Mar/23
@5’7” Heaven I agree the benefits of tall are overblown, and being very tall has more cons than pros. I’m 6’0” flat at a low and wouldn’t want to be taller and would rather be 5’7” than 6’5”+

I usually wear 30 inseam pants, my legs are below average for my height. Some shirts can be too short.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 2/Mar/23
I just measured myself at 187.3cm/ 6'1.75" at 9 pm. I think here on celebheights.com I would get a 6'2" list page.
Honestly i started felt tall into 15-16yrs, so technically 5'11.5"/ ~182 is a tall height. Or start of this category.
Couldn't be unhappy left even with 6'0" as my 16yrs.

By the way, 6'1" is still my perfect height!
adrianjacobs said on 2/Mar/23
@dreus23
Is there a reason you never ever answer when I ask you something? It's kind of irritating.
Emil said on 2/Mar/23
@Adrianjacobs

I could imagine people in Stockholm are taller compared to the rest of Sweden. People in Copenhagen and Aarhus also look noticeably taller compared to the rest of Denmark. Or maybe tall people are more noticeable since the population is bigger in those cities
adrianposter said on 1/Mar/23
at what height do you guys think someone starts to have the “tall guy” look i think it starts at like 184-186 cm
viper said on 1/Mar/23
34 inseam at 5-10 is nuts
Progking185 said on 1/Mar/23
@James172 yeah it doesnt, though I notice 6'6 is usually the tallest around and very standout still. Above that at 6'7-6'8 maybe starts to look "freakish". 6'6 I think is either very tall or extremely tall range but not too towering.
adrianjacobs said on 1/Mar/23
@Rockaway
A 6'4 man in Sweden is actually the equivalent of a guy who's slightly less than 6'2 (about 6'1.8) in America. Source: Click Here

It's strange that it comes as a surprise to you. Are you trying to say that Americans and Swedes are similar in height?
Emil said on 1/Mar/23
@Progking185

183-184 cm is also fairly tallish most places but not in the tallest countries. I've felt quite tall in London and in some US cities, but I feel very average in Denmark lol
Emil said on 1/Mar/23
@Progking185

You live in the US or UK?
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 1/Mar/23
I wonder if me living in an affluent area is why I'm seeing taller girls than guys. Where I live has a population of 120k and when I went for a walk yesterday I saw 3 5'10-5'11 range girls but only one guy who was 6'3-6'4 range. The 3 girls I saw that range were all in trainers so footwear would have been similar, if not in my favour as my Skechers are quite chunky.
Alex 6'0 said on 28/Feb/23
Caleb, with Gheorge Muresan he looks 7'0
Progking185 said on 28/Feb/23
@Emil yeah that sounds right, Add 2-3 cm to that for solid tall. Though 183-184 is tall a fair amount. 178 is pretty average I guess but most times im out I think its a little above, even for young guys. 176-177 maybe solid average.
James.B 172cm said on 28/Feb/23
Used to know a guy who was 6ft6 and walking around in public he did not look freakish or anything like that. Maybe he looked shorter because he was overweight at 19 stone
Emil said on 28/Feb/23
@(Billythetreesurgeon)

Go to downtown Copenhagen and you'll most likely spot a couple 6 foot girls. 6'1-6'2 women aren't super rare either
Antonhy999 said on 28/Feb/23
Rob, do you think flat back posture leads to more daily shrinkage since there is more pressure on the spine?
Editor Rob
Different activities do seem to put more strain on our back. Also, the way we hold ourselves and the muscles we use could also contribute a bit to back pains.
adrianjacobs said on 28/Feb/23
(Billythetreesurgeon)
I wouldn't say Denmark and Sweden are very close. Swedes are quite a lot taller, at least if I compare Stockholm to Copenhagen.
I see women over 6ft1 every time I take the subway in Stockholm.
Big Ben said on 28/Feb/23
@Henrik - Olof Lundh is a legit 6’5” too. I met him a few times last summer when I was working in Kivik. I think he has a house there and we would often run into each other when I was walking to or from my job. He likes to take really long walks and his legs are incredibly long.
Jdubbz said on 28/Feb/23
@Alex:

Lol, even I wear 34" inseam at times but only when I feel like wearing my pants super low without having to cuff. My normal inseam is 37" though.
5'7 Heaven said on 27/Feb/23
I'm not saying that the benefits of being taller aren't real, but sometimes I think that the benefits are overstated by height obsessed communities like ours. I'm always surprised by the number of people who think I'm 5'9"--maybe I just have good proportions?

On the subject of preferred height, I'm not even sure if I'd want to be 5'11" to be honest. I think if I had a choice I'd like to be a legitimate 5'10"--it's just a really solid size with great proportions without being visibly tall.

But to be one hundred percent honest I would have been thrilled to have been one inch taller at a legitimate 5'8"--I think I'd feel a lot less pressure to lie about my height, and worry less about the fact that so many people inflate their own heights. I've met a few 5'5" women who have claimed 5'7". I haven't met many 5'5"/5'6" women who have claimed 5'8".
(Billythetreesurgeon) said on 27/Feb/23
Denmark and Sweden are probably similar for male heights, fair few girls there are near 6ft I can imagine too.
Rockaway said on 27/Feb/23
@adrianjacobs even if we hold your assumption of 6’4 in Sweden being the equivalent of 6’2 in the USA as true (I disagree) that proves my point of 6’4 being SOLID TALL. Anywhere in the world. In 99% of cases, it’s VERY TALL.
Maahin Chowdhury said on 27/Feb/23
6’4 is uncommon but it’s not that rare. I will eventually see 1-3 men that are 6’4 when I go out shopping. 6’5+ is where it gets rare. But somehow, I see slightly more 5’11 women than 6’4 men from my perspective.
Henrik said on 27/Feb/23
Swedish Olof Lundh is listed 6ft 5 (196cm).

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I can see that being only an inch under makes tallish. 🙄
Daniel Lee said on 26/Feb/23
Basketball:

Best height = 6'7. 6'8 is good height too but not like 6'7.

Best height for excelñent mobility, dribling, agility = 6'2. Of course, if a player is shorter than 6'2, he could get a better mobility but he will have problem with the blocks of taller players.

Best height for blocks having good mobility = 6'10
Sean Forrest said on 26/Feb/23
Hiya Rob I was curious on your guess for how much these elevator shoes would give if possible please -
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And 3.5" style Click Here thanks again
Editor Rob
I'd knock at least 2cm from their claims, so likely under 3 inches in actual height.
James.B 172cm said on 26/Feb/23
Talking to a guy last night who claimed to be 6ft5 and its certainly an imposing towering height
Emil said on 26/Feb/23
Globally, probably 1 in 500 young men are 6'4 or taller. For women it would likely be close to 1 in every 1 million
Emil said on 26/Feb/23
@Rockaway

I don't know how it is in Sweden, but 6'4 is definitely standout tall even amongst young guys in Denmark. Tallish is 6'1-6'1.5, whereas legit tall starts at around 6'2" I'd say.

I measure 6'0-6'0.5 most of the day, which is in the upper average zone
Emil said on 26/Feb/23
@adrianjacobs

A narrow SD pretty much indicates homogeneity
Alex 6'0 said on 26/Feb/23
Bobby, yea 34 inseam at 5'10? I'm also 235lbs though my waist isnt lean but im pretty big so it fits my body. I like the 32 length better on me. 36 waist in certain brands bit too tight it depends
Editor Rob
Speaking of inseam and waist, I was ordering some joggers for my Father and we weren't sure about sizing.
So I got a 31 inseam and 32-3 waist. It was too long for him, where in the past he'd be wearing 31-2 inseam. His knees are a bit permanently bent now, so I think that's knocked some height from below the waist. I got the 29 inch and it wasn't short on him.

I can still fit 32 waist, but 33 at the moment is about right. Inseam I would go either 30 or 31 as it's between the two. Or if a 32 I would ask Jenny to re-hem to 30.5"

I hadn't weighed myself for ages but my Mother has new scales and I am currently 175 lbs.
Rockaway said on 26/Feb/23
Start of tall isn’t the same thing as tallish. Tallish, in the US, is generally agreed to be 5’11. To equate 5’11 to 6’4 in even the tallest country in the world is madness. Even so, I would argue that saying 6’4 is the start of tall anywhere in the world is also madness. For that to be the case, let’s assume a city center of 100k people. The average male height ages 18-50 would need to be roughly 6’2 for that to be true. That simply doesn’t exist. Let’s stop playing games, 6’4 is bare minimum SOLID TALL anywhere on planet earth. In 9/10 situations, it’s VERY TALL. Case closed…
adrianjacobs said on 26/Feb/23
@Rockaway
It's not just "not uncommon" in Sweden. It's a very common and normal height here. It's tall but does not stand out. It's the equivalent of a 6'2 guy in the US or UK.
MD said on 26/Feb/23
@Rob, it seems that not only is the Height Request page is closed, but you've removed it altgoether? Or was it just after a certain page? I get a 404 Page Not Found Error.
Editor Rob
I'd removed it a few months ago. It had been deactivated for a few years by that point.
Nike Q said on 25/Feb/23
Any ideas how much height these could add, Rob?

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Look not too dissimilar to the 2090s.

I’m transitioning away from wearing lifts. Do any of you gents recommend any trainers/sneakers that add 1.5+ inches aside from the ones listed on this site?
Editor Rob
I thought I'd measured them once in store, but unfortunately didn't. I'd expect over 1.25 inches.
Rockaway said on 25/Feb/23
Just because 6’4 isn’t uncommon in Sweden doesn’t make it “tallish”. That’s utter nonsense.
Public Enemy said on 25/Feb/23
@Alex 6’0
I’m 34 waist and 34 trousers
Bobby said on 25/Feb/23
@Alex 6'0

We have similar inseams. Mine are 38x34 usually, although I always wear belts with my jeans, so my waistline is likely a 36 instead of 38. I feel 32 is a bit small on me, but 34 is perfect.
adrianjacobs said on 25/Feb/23
@Jdubbz
Well, it's nonetheless definitely not homogenous. The standard deviation is narrow though, like you say.
adrianjacobs said on 25/Feb/23
@QM6'1.5"QM
There is nothing uncommon and unnormal about 6'4 in Sweden. Would you say there's anything uncommon and unnormal about a 6'2 guy in the US? Please just answer this.
Jdubbz said on 25/Feb/23
@adrianjacobs:

Compared to the US, it is pretty damn homogenous. That's my only frame of reference.
Alex 6'0 said on 25/Feb/23
6'4 is very tall in most countries. Certain countries just solid tall. Its prob giant like in Certain countries too. Its definitely start of standout tall where 6'2-6'3 isn't.
Arch Stanton said on 25/Feb/23
Arch Stanton said on 24/Feb/23
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Editor Rob
That looks like it packs a lot of vitamins and minerals!

And tastes good even if you don't like the taste of broccoli and spinach due to the sweetness in the fruits! Chlorella Click Here is amazing stuff and one of the most nutrient dense things you can consume. A bit fishy by itself but fine blended in with the others. Add a little Himalayan salt to water in the morning and there's 84 minerals in that too!
Emil said on 25/Feb/23
@Jdubbz

Thanks for championing our pov. Although I do understand if people don't believe Adrian and I haha.

I think the SD is quite low in Denmark, around 6-6.5 cm. We're quite homogeneous.
adrianjacobs said on 25/Feb/23
@dreus23
Did you estimate these "tall lanky guys" to be 6ft3 or were they actually measured?
I mean, you're most likely underestimating their height and the same with the "6ft1" guys.
Not a single person would consider A LEGIT 183cm "a bit above average" in Sweden. 184-185cm is considered the start of tall in countries like the US and UK and you're saying Swedes are the same height? 😊
I remember when I posted the photos of me in a crowd a couple of months ago, and you told me that I look about three inches taller than a guy who according to you looks like 5'8-5'9, so 5'11.5. Obviously, as you see, you have a tendency to downplay people's height.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 25/Feb/23
If you want to see how tall are you really is, then you can pretend and make fake video or prank. A view to a blogger, lol. With a little help from friends.
But ground and floor should be flat and normal.
So you can compared your height vs others.

This is my idea to you.
adrianjacobs said on 25/Feb/23
@Jdubbz
Sweden homogeneous? Are you kidding?

The standard deviation is probably very narrow, it's Sweden after all, no one would dare to "stand out".
QM6'1.5"QM said on 25/Feb/23
Guys, please, stop this meaningless talk, I'm just going crazy!
6'4 and 6'5" both are very tall heights everywhere in the world.
Not giant or freak for sure, but still nothing about "tallish" or other bs.
These heights is "common and normal" only at nba court and sports. Even 6'3" goes in this category.

Also I don't believe that avg height is growing up every month and every second ... it's long progress like 15-25-30yrs and would be 1/4 to 1" inch!
Henrik said on 25/Feb/23
Very few would consider a legit 6ft 4 guy tallish in Sweden, lol. One of my 6ft 5 friends is sometimes called "the Hulk". If you have a relative or friend who is his size, then not many would dare lay a finger on you.
Jdubbz said on 25/Feb/23
@adrianjacobs:

What you say is very interesting, especially regarding how all the guys you saw were taller than you, but in a relatively narrow range of 185-190cm. Perhaps the average is indeed as high as you claim it is, but the standard deviation is much narrower due to the fairly homogenous population?
Jdubbz said on 25/Feb/23
@Rockaway

184cm isn't 60th percentile anywhere in the world? Maybe fact check yourself before accusing others of posting nonsense. There are countries in the world with an average height over 183cm, so in those countries, 184cm would be UNDER 60th percentile.
Kellan said on 24/Feb/23
@Daniel Lee
5'8" by far. I wouldn't want to be 6'5", that's 8" above average here.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 24/Feb/23
Any idea on comedian Stewart Lee, Rob? And is he worth adding? I've seen 5'11 and 5'11.5 listings online for him and he does appear 5'11 range on his standups.
Editor Rob
I'm not too familiar with him. At a glance I wouldn't have guessed as tall as 5ft 11.
dreus23 said on 24/Feb/23
@Jdubbz

6'3/190 is definitely solid tall, if not standout tall. I know around 4 guys that height and they are all considered to be noticeably very tall, they're the "tall lanky guys" in pretty much every friend group

Something as low as 185/6'1 could be considered tall in some social circles (in my opinion, most), and pretty much everything over that is at least "tall". There's not a single human being in Sweden not under severe delusions that would describe a 6'2 guy for example as "a bit above average", that's just a rock-solid tall if not very tall height to most people here. Something like 183 cm could be "a bit above average", but over 184 and you're into tall territory

Similarly, something like 174 could be "a bit below average", but most people wouldn't consider it a "short" height. I know that our former prime minister Stefan Löfven is billed as 175 cm but my buddy who's around 173 cm met him and they were the exact same height (I've seen them together as well), and if you look at pictures with Löfven he hardly comes across as a short guy.

But to answer your question; yes, 191-193 cm are very tall heights in Sweden. And 195 cm is just huge. Tall begins at around 185 cm, and the typical average heights are anywhere from 175-183 cm
Alex 6'0 said on 24/Feb/23
Whats everyone's pants size? I do typically 36x32. 38x32 if i want bit room
Emil said on 24/Feb/23
@Rockaway

We're not posting nonsense. People in Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Nothern Germany and some Balkan countries are just very tall compared to the rest of the world.

I know 184 cm is not average height in most places
Emil said on 24/Feb/23
@Jdubbz

Yes, 193-195 cm is when you begin to stand out. But extremely tall starts around 197-198 cm. Over 2 meters is 1 out of 1000 men territory I'd say
Emil said on 24/Feb/23
@Rockaway

In Denmark, 184 cm is definitely not much above the 60% percentile for 20-30 year-old men. In the Netherlands it's average height.
MaskDeMasque 5'9.5 said on 24/Feb/23
@Rockaway

184cm could be around 60th percentile for young people in Holland. I felt average young guy there when I went was around the 181-182 cm mark.
adrianjacobs said on 24/Feb/23
@Jdubbz
If "tall" means so much above average that you begin to stand out in a crowd, I would say 195cm could be the start of tall where I live, yeah.
Arch Stanton said on 24/Feb/23
Super breakfast recommendation for anybody who wants to increase their energy and feel good: Broccoli, spinach, cucumber, tomato, lemon, tangerine/orange, apple and banana with a bit of soya or almond milk/or milk and chorella powder in a blender, pour and mix up in a bowl of oats and mix in nuts and sultanas. The nutrient content is off the charts! I have it every morning now and can get away with only a tomato and carrot smoothie and vegetable soup for lunch and just a eat one big meal for tea! The key is avoiding foods which spike your blood sugar (which increase hunger pains).
Editor Rob
That looks like it packs a lot of vitamins and minerals!
Rockaway said on 24/Feb/23
6’4 is not “tallish” anywhere in the world… that’s a ridiculous statement to make! You’re literally taller than over 99% of the human population. A lot of nonsense being posted lately… 184cm isn’t 60th percentile anywhere in the world either, regardless of what demographic you look at.
QM6'1.5"QM said on 24/Feb/23
Jawilder said on 23/Feb/23

Yeah, he's probably about yours height, so 184.5cms is possible, but it's still solid 2cms there and back then my low (evening barefeet) was 186-186.2cms.
I believe today, at 187cms, I'm like ~4inches taller than Allen Iverson, if we really take honest and fair comparison!
Celeb Photos is incredible thing and proof of our guesses:)
Jdubbz said on 24/Feb/23
Alex 6'0 said on 23/Feb/23
Jdubzz, solid 6'6 you prob can go months without seeing anyone taller lets say at least 6'7?

Yeah pretty much, but it's very random. The longest stretch I went without seeing anyone taller was 4 months, but that usually doesn't happen. I rarely encounter a cluster of super tall guys (noticeably taller than me) all within a few days of each other, so on average maybe once every 1-2 months.

What's also weird is that if I see someone taller, usually they're much taller and not "just" 6'7. Tallest I saw last semester at my university had to have been around 7 foot. Imagine being 6'6 and turning a corner then suddenly being eye level with a dude's chin. It's pretty jarring lol
Caleb 178.94cm said on 23/Feb/23
How tall does this guy look if his mom is 5'10?Click Here
Editor Rob
Did look about 11 inches taller there. Their claims seemed to add up.
Jdubbz said on 23/Feb/23
@Emil @AdrianJacobs:

Would it be fair to say that 194 or 195cm is when you start getting into the legit tall category in Sweden or Denmark? Or would you say the threshold is lower, like 6'3-4/191-193cm?
Okidoki said on 23/Feb/23
@QM6'1.5 QM Yes and i agree with him that sometimes the average can seem taller, like about 6'1 when going to bars, shopping malls etc and around 5'8-5'9 for women at times.

I am from Scandinavia and all the countries should be close between all the ethnic nordic People.

He has also said the reason why the Swedish average is 5'11.5 is because it was a long time ago, but one of the most reliable sources, the ncd data, says the Swedish average is only 180.5 cm, 5'11, from 2019. Other national sources also say either 5'11 or 5'11.5 range, not many years ago.

Seeing 5'9 women and 6'1 men is quite common, but in my experience, seeing women over 5'10 is not rare, but not really common though.

In my experience, when meeting young men and women in crowded places, sometimes, i get the impression the average is 6'1 and 5'8-5'9, but also other times, i get the impression that the average is between 5'10-6'0 and 5'5-5'7 too, so it varies. Sometimes it can seem 50/50, other times, 5'10-6'0 average can seem more common to see, between young people in particular.

One should use his own head when seeing and analyzing in my opinion, but all the statistical data, both national surveys and international surveys, say that young Scandinavian men average between 5'11-5'11.75 though and those are only a few years ago too.

Also, i personally find it unrealistic that ethnic Swedish people in Stockholm are around 2 inches taller than let's say a smaller city in Sweden. Ofcourse, this is his personal experience and i respect that.

@adrianjacobs I meant that you could maybe try to hold the measuring tape beside you while looking in the mirror, but the method you used was good though. You are probably close to, if not accurate there.
Jawilder said on 23/Feb/23
@QM6’1.5 so you would guess the guy you took a picture with 6’0.5-6’0.75?
5'7 and a fraction said on 23/Feb/23
@Rob, if someone comes below the chin of someone who is 5'6 does that make them around 4'8?
Editor Rob
Yes, you'd expect around 4ft 8 if just under their chin.
adrianjacobs said on 23/Feb/23
@QM6'1.5"QM
Oh, and btw, yes a lot of guys were in that specific range, 6'1-6'3. It's a pretty narrow range where a vast majority of guys I encounter belong to. Not surprising either considering the fact how important it is to "fit in" when you live in Sweden.
adrianjacobs said on 23/Feb/23
@QM6'1.5"QM
It was measured at 5'11.5 for men aged 20-29 in 2008, so I don't know why you assume that it's 5'11 for "high middle class white guys", which it in any case absolutely isn't. Maybe it really is only 6ft for all swedish men, but it most definitely is not a millimeter below 6'1 for the kind of guys you talk about.
Seriously, not to be rude, but shouldn't you at least visit Sweden before you start assuming how tall people are here?
Alex 6'0 said on 23/Feb/23
Jdubzz, solid 6'6 you prob can go months without seeing anyone taller lets say at least 6'7?
QM6'1.5"QM said on 23/Feb/23
adrianjacobs said on 23/Feb/23

I believe that tall/above average people is easier to get job or social activity. Maybe it's a reason why you see more tall people in urban city life. The same resason with colleges/universities/ stuff like this.
I still believe about 5'11" might be like avg height (sweden) of "high middle class" white guy who had good nutrition growing up. Or you're just misunderstanding the difference.
I'm gonna to swear that people/men 1.5-2 inches shorter than you and you feel they're like yours height.

Do you have some mates 5'10-5'11-6'0" ? then you can compared to others.

I think when you sees someone is 2-3inches taller than your eyelevel, you will considering him the same tall as you, it's very possible plus your eyelevel not typical anymore.
"I think actually not one single guy was shorter than me, but not a lot of them were much taller either." - in this case, EVERY single guy was like 6'2" ? LOL.
Maybe you marked 3-4of them and 12-15 been ignored. Idk anyway)
QM6'1.5"QM said on 23/Feb/23
Jawilder said on 22/Feb/23

Yeah, thanks. I still think I'm solid 2cms taller.
Iverson is probably 5'10-10.5" midday and 5'9.75-10.25" in the evening. 5'10.5" is a good list.
adrianposter said on 23/Feb/23
Hey Rob,

Just out of curiosity when you said you stopped growing at 14 was that just upon turning 14 or nearing on 15?
adrianjacobs said on 23/Feb/23
@Jdubbz
I just took the subway yesterday in Stockholm and the vast majority of guys were in the 185-190cm range. I walked with a straight posture through a couple of subway wagons and I think actually not one single guy was shorter than me, but not a lot of them were much taller either. Everyone were slightly taller.
So you'd definitely be very tall at 199cm, but nothing remarkable like you say.
adrianjacobs said on 23/Feb/23
@dreus23
Depends on how many people I see each day, but I wouldn't say I see guys who are 5'5 each day. Among immigrants or really old people perhaps, but definitely not among young ethnic Swedes.
Emil said on 23/Feb/23
@Jdubzz

199 cm is still extremely tall in Scandinavia. You'd stand out.

Guys at Adrian's and my height 6'0-6'1 are super common though. But you begin to stand out at 6'4-6'5
MD said on 23/Feb/23
Rob, can you add English actor Will Sharpe?
Jawilder said on 22/Feb/23
Click Here=

This is the guy QM6’1.5 said was 6’0.75. Steve Nash clearly shorter by about an inch there.
Jawilder said on 22/Feb/23
@QM6’1.5 that’s awesome dude. Yeah that guy is probably 6’0.75 at a low. AI needs a downgrade to minimum 5’10.5. 0% chance he’s over 5’10.5 at a low.
Big Ben said on 22/Feb/23
@Henrik - I doubt Ulf Kristersson is 5ft 7. Click Here

I have met Jimmie Åkesson and I was taller than him (I am 5ft 10.5). I even have a photo.
dreus23 said on 22/Feb/23
@adrianjacobs

Do you ever, at least semi-regularly, see shorter guys? I realize that the average may be higher in downtown Östermalm than say Skärholmen, but I think you should at least once a day see a guy that's like 5'5? Idk, but in my experience there's pretty much always one out of maybe eight guys at the subway that's at least a bit shorter than me and then like one guy around my height or a bit taller

I think your eyelevel is throwing you off a lot, and I think you should try looking at yourself in a nearby mirror (as in, maybe not necessarily a literal mirror, but like a transparent window or something) to see how you actually look next to people. Something I noticed when I was a bit shorter than I am now was that I often overestimated how tall I thought I looked next to someone, only to be shocked by how short I actually appeared in the mirror. Recently I've been feeling the opposite, thinking that I look diminutive only to see that I'm like barely shorter than someone in the mirror. Also, try not to judge people's heights when walking around, it says nothing about the height that they actually measure. Most roads are uneven and walking posture can vary a lot, for example yours doesn't exactly look amazing in the pic you linked, which means you lose more height than someone with better posture
Emil said on 22/Feb/23
@QM6'1.5"QM

Yea, I'm usually 184 cm midday, and 183.0-183.3 at my low.

I think I'm around the 70% for all men, 60% percentile for younger guys, so we're of pretty much the same perception.

What do you mean about problems and disease? Unless it's something the person in question has openly expressed they have or want others to talk about, I don't think it's our business to know or address.
adrianjacobs said on 22/Feb/23
@QM6'1.5"QM
Did you grow in your twenties?
QM6'1.5"QM said on 22/Feb/23
Back then (2020) i stood at 6'1.25" evening and strong 6'2" (188cms) morning.
You can comparing to Allen Iverson.
Click Here
QM6'1.5"QM said on 22/Feb/23
Hey Rob, few yrs ago i met this guy pro-dunker called Smoove, he's about 6'1", i was like 2cms taller. And right now we have incredible photo with Allen Iverson ... unfortunately he's even shorter than we think. 5'10" barefeet max!!!

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Editor Rob
In the photo I could see the 5ft 10-10.5 possibility.
Jdubbz said on 22/Feb/23
A legit evening height 6'4/193cm is indeed very tall in the US and most countries in the world, but I can certainly believe that it's more in the regular tall category in many European countries and getting into the tallish zone in a select few (Netherlands, etc.).

Heck, in countries like the Netherlands or Sweden (according to AdrianJacobs), I'd probably be totally unremarkable and just another tall guy at 199cm. In the US, I have gone months without seeing anyone noticeably taller.
Jdubbz said on 22/Feb/23
Emil said on 20/Feb/23
@Jdubbz

Exactly. And if the average height is 6'4, then 2 SD above average would be around 6'9 lol. 2 SD above average is very tall, sure, but it's not in the rare category.

As a Dane, I can attest it is extremely rare to spot anyone in Denmark who's 6'9 - I highly doubt you'd even see many Dutch men at that height.

I see guys at 6'5-6'6 in Copenhagen weekly, but any taller than that is not common

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Thanks for confirming what I was thinking. I am sure Adrian feels below average to short at times, but not to the point that the average Swedish guy is 6'4/193 or something insane like that, which would be true if 6'1 was only 10-20th percentile like he implied. 185cm isn't short anywhere in the world except maybe a few remote tribes in Africa. I think Adrian is truly average to above average height even for a young Swedish guy, but he just doesn't feel that way. It could be a combination of things - height blindness (only paying attention to taller and ignoring shorter), relatively low eye level, thinking people who are his height are taller, etc. That or he just has bad luck and constantly runs into groups of tall guys.

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