pov said on 2/Sep/23
I’d give him a legit 5”11. Back in those days that was considered fairly tall. Just shows how much the average height has increased. Imagine being a 5”11 heavyweight in this day and age, you’d have to be incredibly heavy to match the weight of these 6”7 lads.
181cmguy said on 1/Sep/23
5'9 and 3/4 max.
Mipha said on 12/Mar/23
He did not look more than 4 inches shorter than George Foreman (6ft 3, 191 cm). He always gave out that pretty tall height. I think at least 5'11 or even taller. Maybe 5'11 1/4 or 1/2.
said on 28/Feb/23
Rob what height is his son Marvis, also boxer.He is listed online as 184cm and his dad Joe as 182cm.
Closer to 6ft than Joe was.
Lokas said on 2/Sep/21
Max 5’9.5 out of bed
said on 27/Aug/21
Idk he seems like a legit 5-11 to me. He often looks 3 inches shorter than Ali which would make him 5’-11.5, some of this may be do to foot wear and camera angle and for the fact the Ali wasn’t a legit 6’3. But someone who was a legit 6-3 was George Foreman which Joe looks at at least 4 inches shorter than Foreman.
Most of the photos I find of Joe standing beside them, most of the time Ali and Foreman are hunching down a couple inches which makes it appear Joe might be a weak 6-0 when in reality there’s a lot more of a difference than that.
A shorter Frazier has fought was named Jimmy Ellis who was listed at 6-1 but was more of a 6-0 to 6-0.5 kind of guy. Click Here
take a look at the link and you’ll see their face off where Joe looks a good inch shorter.
So IMO Joe Frazier was a legit 5-11 but no more. In some photos with Ali he appears to be 5’10 and other he looks 5-11.5, there’s really no way to tell without a real measurement
Tall In The Saddle
said on 16/Aug/21
An usual clip which has been on YouTube for years but I only found it the other day. Frazier vs Ryan O'Neal in a boxing exhibition. Maybe it's been previously referenced on O'Neal's page, not sure.
Hard to make a perfect comparison, O'Neal looks a bit taller but I don't know if it's as much as 1 1/2" difference as per their respective listings. Ali also looks a bit more than 2 1/2" taller than O'Neal but Ali is in street shoes. You see O'Neal bouncing around and looking half decent. That's all well and good but Joe kept the big left hook well in check. It would've only taken one and they could've counted to 1000 without a twitch from "Oliver", homicide charges to follow.
One of the comments below the clip said that Joe broke O'Neal's collarbone. That wouldn't surprise me and that would've been Joe taking it easy. Frazier was a beast!
ALEXIZ/180cm said on 19/Apr/21
178 cm max
Tall In The Saddle
said on 13/Apr/21
Here's a great, less often seen photo of Ali and Joe when young. The natural assumption is some advantage to Ali in dress shoe heel vs Joe in flat boxing shoes. Possibly the biggest height pull I've seen Ali hold over Joe in any given photo.
Canson said on 9/Apr/21
@Tall In the Saddle: interesting. Lol I would’ve given him 5’11 before but now I see more pics and that is a good estimate (5’10.5).
Tall In The Saddle said on 1/Apr/21
Nice addition to the site.
Personally, I think 5'10.5" is a good estimate. Joe wore decent heels a lot. Next to Ali, Joe always appeared that bit taller outside the ring than in. I don't think Joe was insecure or trying to give a false impression. It simply would've been preferable, at least outside the ring, to be able to better "face up" to opponents that were almost always notably taller.
There's a clip on You tube of Joe back in 1973 on Johnny Carson. Carson used to box in the Navy with a none too shabby 10-0 amateur record. They put on a boxing demo with both in flat boxing shoes. Carson gave good account of himself. Though mainly executing boxing moves with decreased posture, I think Joe held a slight edge in height. Johnny is listed 5'10.5" on this site.
As at the time of the clip, Carson was in his late 40s so some height loss possible but not so likely. Carson was fit for his age and his posture was good. It's also possible that Carson might've been a flat 5'10" peak, a height I would've casually guessed him to be. Like Tyson, Joe should garner even more credit given the limited dimensions (height and reach) he had to work with. Great fighter. Great man.
ArjunaKorale said on 1/Apr/21
@MikeSui: I think Joe was a fraction taller but yes, I agree that they were v similar in height. I’d give Frazier a peak, fighting height of 5 ft 10.5 to 5 ft 11 (179 - 180 cm) and Tyson a peak fighting height of 5 ft 10 to 5 ft 10-and-one-quarter (around 178 cm).
Mike Sui said on 31/Mar/21
Same as Mike Tyson 178cms.
heyyyyyyyy said on 30/Mar/21
5'10.5 is more likely
Mickie said on 26/Mar/21
Maybe his 5'11.5" claim was an in shoes height.
said on 25/Mar/21
I can easily believe Frazier wasn't much taller than Rob by his late 60s, but I always thought he was more 5'9" range peak than a full 5'10". If you look at this scene from Rocky, he only looks about an inch or so taller than 5'8.75" or 5'9" max Stallone: Click Here
yet you can see Frazier also has a noticeable enough advantage with a decent-sized heel typical of the 70s compared to boxing shoes.
He did sometimes wear decent heels...there was a show with Cavett and Michael parkinson
and Joe seemed taller than Michael I thought, but those heels are quite big.
ArjunaKorale said on 25/Mar/21
I thought that Frazier was 5 ft 11 (180 cm) tall during his peak fighting yrs, so I can accept your 5 ft 10.5 (179 cm) height estimate for him. I still think Fraz could have been a max of 5 ft 11 tall as he didn’t seem 4 inches shorter than 6 ft 2.5 inch tall Ali. I always saw a 3 to 3-and-a-half inch gap between Ali & Fraz. However, I did feel that Fraz was towered by the 6 ft 3-and-a-quarter inch tall Foreman. So your 5 ft 10.5 inch estimate for Joe might just be perfect!
Tall Sam said on 24/Mar/21
He was a badass Philly icon, I’d say he can look in the 5’10.5”-5’11” range.
Big T said on 24/Mar/21
There are plenty of photos out there of Frazier, in his 60s, with Mike Tyson. Frazier looks to be 5’8 to 5’ 8 1/2” range. Did he really lose 2 inches + by his 60s?
Miss Sandy Cowell
said on 24/Mar/21
@ Rob - It's amazing how many stars you've seen in your lifetime! Christophers Lee and Walken are more my cup of tea, but I feel it's a major privilege to see and meet the stars who entertain us!
Sometimes they are fleeting moments, but are lasting memories, especially if you get photos with celebrities.
said on 23/Mar/21
Rob, could you add Joe Louis?
Click Here Click Here
Mainly given 6ft2 but Boxrec.com (the official website for boxing records) has him at 6ft1½ Click Here
. I'd go with that for his prime. Like Henry Cooper I think he was a guy that held up well as he aged and didn't lose much. He only a little shorter than peak Ali
Miss Sandy Cowell
said on 23/Mar/21
Great addition, Rob! I remember him well, and he can have 5ft10.75. 💪
I did once see Joe up close a decade or so ago, it was at one of the NEC birmingham events, he really wasn't that much taller than myself, I was surprised. But he did look like he'd lost over an inch in height as in the 70's seemed over 5ft 10 I thought.
Soetan said on 23/Mar/21
Looks a perfect 5'10¼ to me
Mickie said on 23/Mar/21
I always thought 5'11", but I can believe this listing.