BradMcKenzie says on 8/Feb/10
6'1.5" - 6'2" Arnold Schwarzenegger in 1979 (at 210 lbs) with celebheight listed 6'5" Danish Sven Ole Thorsen (at 320 lbs) BAREFOOT!!!!
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p.s. This shot was taken just when Arnold started training hard and putting muscle mass on for "Conan the barbarian" when he had leaned out to only 199 lbs for competitive running. He also was thinking about competing at the 1980 Mr. Olympia as well.
I would seriously like to see someone dare say Arnold was wearing lifts in this picture to look only 2.5 - 3 inches shorter. LOL
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Metric says on 8/Feb/10
Arn has sure as hell NEVER looked 6-3.5 in ANY of his movies like Guy suggests he can!! Shaking my head. He has looked as short as 5-10 in 6th day and NEVER taller than the 6-1 he looked in The Terminator (and that was in HUGE heeled rocker style boots). Actually itīs very obvious when watching Arnolds films that he is in NO WAY a particular tall or gargantuan guy. All I can say is that if Arnold really was 6-2 then Hollywood is swarmed with 6-4 to 6-5 men, including the extras. Now, maybe if this was Denmark. But itīs not. Itīs US where average height is 5-9. (Or 5-6.5 if you ask G (The departed) lol.)
Do the math people. Metric says on 8/Feb/10
Oh no, Guy talking about Schortzenegger looking 6-8??? This just shows the level of delusion these fanboys suffer from. They sit all day long in their tiny rooms at home with the parents and dream about gargantuan 7-0 Arnie Superman saving the world and kicking the as* of every bully that ever teased them in highschool! Goddamn, the level of this board is going down. Someone needs to TAKE THEIR MEDS! *** Metric says on 8/Feb/10
Jesse Ventura looks a good 3-4 inches shorter than Ralph Moeller in the prison scene from Batman & Robin. Ralph said HIMSELF on german television in 2006 that he is 6-5. Do the math! Jesse is 6-1 to 6-2 max. He was 1 inch shorter than Sven Ole Thorsen in Running Man. Sven on danish television has NEVER looked 6-5. He looked 6-2 on a danish show some years ago. DO THE MATH! Schortzenegger wish he was Jesses height. But he isnīt. Arn was 5-11.5 prime. Now he is between 5-10.5 to 5-10.75. Looking 6-0.5 in stealths. Do the math... derek d says on 8/Feb/10
By the way my last post was referring to the move The Running man. derek d says on 8/Feb/10
Imperial says on 6/Feb/10
He looked 6'1"-ish in The Terminator, about 6'0.5" in Commando, and 6' in most other movies of him, I recall - including Predator, and Terminator 2. He did, however, look VERY 5'11"-ish in The Running Man, which made me wonder...
People tend to forget that Arnold stood along side with most actors ranging from 6'2 to 6'5 the entire movie. He appeared a solid 6'0.5 - 6'1, at worst, if you ask me. chris says on 7/Feb/10
FunkyM says on 6/Feb/10
Chris: Warrior's billed weight was 275 pounds. Arnold never stood next to warrior in his 260 pounds form so you do not know. Arnold was naturally thin boned (ecto-morph) so bone density is never apparent by just look at height and weight. Plus Arnold had a measured 33 inches waist even in off-season 260 pounds and his legs were not very big.
Again, Warrior's was "billed weight". You need to understand the difference between "billed weight" and real weight. Warrior in reality was never over 250 pounds. WWF/WWE greatly exaggerates the height and weight of their wrestlers.
Are you insane? check out warriors earlier matches when he was dingo warrior. he was massive, he was at least 270. GUY says on 7/Feb/10
Imperial says on 6/Feb/10
He looked 6'1"-ish in The Terminator, about 6'0.5" in Commando, and 6' in most other movies of him, I recall - including Predator, and Terminator 2. He did, however, look VERY 5'11"-ish in The Running Man, which made me wonder...
You are discerning a very small amount of height difference without ever being there to assess in person. Come on, you can distinguish 1/2 inch difference in how you think he appears between Terminator and Commando. There's no margin of error? He was measured 6'1 1/2" as his actual height. He's going to easily appear 2 inches + shorter or taller depending on the scene, footwear, fellow actors for comparison, or level of ground. To say he looked one inch less than his actual height is very perceptive (unrealistic) as one inch is too little a difference to make such a call on. Heck I could say Arnold looked 6'8" in that scene in Terminator where he's buying firearms in that gun shop. He looks huge in front of the store clerk.
Predator was cast with very large actors. Without taking that into consideration you could say Arnold looks average there as he's not the biggest guy. Intellectual laziness aside, you can easily cross reference 6'4" Bill Duke, 6'4" Jesse Ventura, 6'2" Carl Weathers, 6'3" Sonny Landham. There's also a scene in Running man where Arnold really does not look too much shorter than 6'5" Sven Thorsen. So you see, not actually being there in person to quantitatively judge someone's height is flawed since judgement will be based on other actors you see on screen. Without knowing the heights of those other actors, judgement will always be skewed. Imperial says on 6/Feb/10
He looked 6'1"-ish in The Terminator, about 6'0.5" in Commando, and 6' in most other movies of him, I recall - including Predator, and Terminator 2. He did, however, look VERY 5'11"-ish in The Running Man, which made me wonder... Lucio says on 6/Feb/10
Brian says on 6/Feb/10
About this whole discussion with Lowe: Rob is listed at 5'10", but go to his celebheights page first:
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You'll see 5'10.5" Alan with Rob at the top, and Lowe looks .5"-1" taller than him. This either means that Lowe was not listed right or that he is a confirmed lift wearer. I'm leaning toward the latter, but what's important here is that this photo can be used as an index for Arnold's height. If a 5'10.5" man is .5"-1" shorter than Lowe (At least with footwear in play), and Arnold is a solid inch taller than him, than that puts Arnold in the 6 foot range today. That's pretty much that.
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Yes Brian, is the same doubt that came to me.
In fact, if we compare a legit 5'11" man like Jay Leno, just to name one, with Arnold, we realize that there is almost more height difference between him and Arnold than between Arnold and Lowe, which should be 5'10" (178 cm) .
As indeed, the photo on his page with 5'10.5" Alan Light, me think more of a man tall 180 cm, rather than a man tall 178 cm, which would bring me to conclude that he habitually wears lifts (doubt moreover advanced by commentators of his page).
Don't we forget that photos with Blair in particular, but also with Clinton, Eastwood, Harrison Ford and others, leave NO DOUBT in holding that the height of Arnold IS, and i EMPHASIZE "IS", around a strong 6'.05". FunkyM says on 6/Feb/10
Chris: Warrior's billed weight was 275 pounds. Arnold never stood next to warrior in his 260 pounds form so you do not know. Arnold was naturally thin boned (ecto-morph) so bone density is never apparent by just look at height and weight. Plus Arnold had a measured 33 inches waist even in off-season 260 pounds and his legs were not very big.
Again, Warrior's was "billed weight". You need to understand the difference between "billed weight" and real weight. Warrior in reality was never over 250 pounds. WWF/WWE greatly exaggerates the height and weight of their wrestlers.
For example, Batista has been billed at 6'5" when in reality is 6'2.5".
WWF wrestler Billy Graham who used to train with Arnold said of Arnold in his book "I trained regularly with Arnold because he was 6'2" 250 pounds. He was big and very strong who pushed me to my limits". RisingForce says on 6/Feb/10
Phil Bronstein stood up and made a point of comparing his height to Arnold's, he's met him numerous times and he told me that Arnold at 6'1" today is definitely possible. This confirms that Arnold did indeed stand taller than 6' Bronstein in that video. GUY says on 6/Feb/10
ACG says on 5/Feb/10
It's funny how Metric claims anyone seeing Arnold over 6 foot is on a strict agenda to satisfy their fanboyesque wet-dreams.......but this juvenile accusation is quite obviously a thinly-veiled attempt to distract people from seeing the fact that METRIC is trying to satisfy HIS own fantasy of the great and mighty Arnold Schwarzenegger being shorter than he is, as Metric himself claims to be 5'11.
You really thought you could fool us with that "magic trick", Metric?
That's funny because you're not the first to come to that conclusion. It's funny how Metric even cites allegence with Ali. Ali is probably the only one here more pathetic. Brian says on 6/Feb/10
About this whole discussion with Lowe: Rob is listed at 5'10", but go to his celebheights page first:
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You'll see 5'10.5" Alan with Rob at the top, and Lowe looks .5"-1" taller than him. This either means that Lowe was not listed right or that he is a confirmed lift wearer. I'm leaning toward the latter, but what's important here is that this photo can be used as an index for Arnold's height. If a 5'10.5" man is .5"-1" shorter than Lowe (At least with footwear in play), and Arnold is a solid inch taller than him, than that puts Arnold in the 6 foot range today. That's pretty much that. ACG says on 5/Feb/10
It's funny how Metric claims anyone seeing Arnold over 6 foot is on a strict agenda to satisfy their fanboyesque wet-dreams.......but this juvenile accusation is quite obviously a thinly-veiled attempt to distract people from seeing the fact that METRIC is trying to satisfy HIS own fantasy of the great and mighty Arnold Schwarzenegger being shorter than he is, as Metric himself claims to be 5'11.
You really thought you could fool us with that "magic trick", Metric? chris says on 5/Feb/10
how is it that ultimate warrior(hellwig) whos about the same height as arnie was heavier in his prime at nearly 290,while arnies peak weight was about 260.Arnie looks a bit bigger if not about the same size as warrior? Metric says on 5/Feb/10
Brad McKenzie - Harrison Ford is listed 5-11.5 at Celebheights.com. He is NOT 6-1 !! But thatīs typical fanboy tactics to UPGRADE everyone to make Arnold look taller. Retarded.
And the only "potty mouth" here is YOU, McKenzie! Your tongue seems to be permanently glued to Arnies b**tcra*k and that surely qualifies you for the title. Mr. Potty mouth. RisingForce says on 5/Feb/10
6'1.75" Arnold and Ronald Reagan Click Here
Arnold looked like a tall man and was known as a tall man when he was younger. Now as he's shrunnk to about 6'0.5" and the average white for a white man has jumped to 5'10.5", he no longer seems as tall to people, particularly people expecting the big action star from his films. Danimal says on 5/Feb/10
samson27 says on 4/Feb/10
arnold always was average height or 6'0 tops max peak.
Wrong FunkyM says on 5/Feb/10
Metric. PLEASE!!! Say no more! You have humiliated yourself too much down to the ground. I understand you are a bully and an e-thug. Being, a Danish guy as I understand, you are a Viking keyboard warrior with your e-thugging. Still, you got knocked down to the ground by too many people.
Your ignorance, hatred, denial and petty mentality has shown itself way too many times. Your efforts to downgrade Arnold relentlessly have failed miserably too many times. I could care less what you say since it has no impact whatsoever since everyone takes it with a grain of salt and as a good comic relief, but if you have some self esteem left over, I would stop talking if I were you! Lucio says on 5/Feb/10
Metric says on 5/Feb/10
Lucio - Are you BLIND!!??? In your socalled "restored" pics Arnold looks 5-11 MAX!! In the first one Lowe has pi*s poor posture while Arnold is standing military straight. Still there is not more than 1 inch between them.
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I blind?
Arnold looks 5'11" max???
1 inch between them???
But what are you talking about?
Metric, i understand that you're frustrated and humiliated because lately don't you go a straight one, but it's not denying the evidence that you'll make Arnold short! Lol.
Watch the lines I have drawn on the line of sight of Arnold and Rob.
You'll notice that the green line on the visual Rob, coincides with the bottom of the Arnold nose.
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If you measure it, (even on yourself) you will realize that there are good 5 cm of difference.
Therefore in that photo, we see clearly this one: 5 cm difference considering that the Arnold posture doesn't certainly among the best.
Instead of staying awake all night seeking like a fool a "crappy" photos of short Arnold, it is better to sleep there gains in health. Lol. BradMcKenzie says on 5/Feb/10
P*ttymouth Metric: mor*n if you call Tom Arnold 5'11". Just to downgrade Arnold's height, you are downgrading just about every person who was photographed with Arnold and a legit 6 footer. There were tons of other pictures posted with 6 footers like James Cameron (6'2"), Harrison Ford (6'1"), Carl Weathers (6'1") and the list goes on. Arnold still looks in the 6 foot range even after shrinking by 1 - 1.5 inches.
Your bias and hatred against Arnold has been exposed time and again without any doubts! Calling Reeves 4 inches taller than Arnold is ludicrous that could come from only your th*ck p*ttymouth full of hatred! Arnold was a maximum 2 - 2.5 inches shorter than Reeves as shown in the 1986 picture.
It is impossible to determine the difference in CJ's pictures since it is taken at a low angle and Reeves is standing closer to the camera (since Arnold is looking to the left) while Arnold is standing farther away from the camera giving Reeve the advantage.
You are a pathetic little l*ser and a petty little man who is here just for kicks and giggles or just out of simple hatred and jealousy against Arnold. No doubt about that. Metric says on 5/Feb/10
Lucio - Are you BLIND!!??? In your socalled "restored" pics Arnold looks 5-11 MAX!! In the first one Lowe has pi*s poor posture while Arnold is standing military straight. Still there is not more than 1 inch between them.
In Cjs Reeve pic prime Arnold simply looks like a little kid next to Superman. The ceiling only shows that if anyone has the advantage its Arnold. Reeve is demonstrating his notorious slouching posture while Arnold is standing military straight and even tilting his head upwards (thus appearing taller). Still Reeve is a good 4-5 inches taller. Imagine if Reeve straightened out! The pic as it is shows a 6-0 prime Arnold. If Reeve stood straight Arnold would be excruciatingly humiliated and not look more than 5-11. However I will acknowledge that a shot from below might exaggerate things a bit. So let me be fair and give Arnold 5-11.5 to 6-0 in that prime shot.
6-2 is GODDAMN F**KING ABSURD! Metric says on 5/Feb/10
Brad McKenzie - If Tom Arnold is a "legit" 6-2 then Steven Seagal is 6-7. Because he was 4-5 inches taller in that movie they did together. You need to shut the f**k up and get your tongue out of Arnolds as*! GUY says on 5/Feb/10
Metric says on 4/Feb/10
Schortzenegger BUSTED again!
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He is MUST closer to the camera than 5-10 Rob Lowe and still looks only 1 inch taller. If they stood straight side by side I doubt there would be much difference at all? Anyone still believes he is 6-2 or 6-1 today???
1 inch? What are you smoking? Without taking anything into consideration Arnold would appear an easy 3 inches taller there by looking at top height and eye measure. Bring Arnold back a bit or Lowe forward a bit and maybe there's an extra inch to subtract.
Arnold still looks a good 6' there. People don't always look their exact height. Arnold is leaning back a bit for the camera while Lowe is standing pretty straight. Overall it's not good picture for comparison, but as usual you parade around like a clown as if it has it all.
Arnold and Lowe are not standing directly side by side so too much conjecture and speculation are needed. But that is nothing new as I would say ALL the great photos you've presented are flawed in some way. But you keep your big mouth shut when it's clear Arnold DOESN'T look 5'10"-5'11" next to Tony Blair. No crappy photo is going to make that go away.
Arnold DOESN'T look 5'10"-5'11" next to Harrison Ford at the Avatar premier. Arnold't DOESN'T look 5'10"-5'11" next to James Cameron. Those are way better photos and last I checked 3 beats 1. But you'll stay up all night searching obsessively for another "short" Arnold photo. In your little head you'll think that will simply cancel out the thousands of others you just ignore. Sorry buddy, life doesn't work that way. Lucio says on 4/Feb/10
Metric says on 4/Feb/10
Schortzenegger BUSTED again!
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He is MUST closer to the camera than 5-10 Rob Lowe and still looks only 1 inch taller. If they stood straight side by side I doubt there would be much difference at all? Anyone still believes he is 6-2 or 6-1 today???
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Metric, in order to avoid bad figures like that with Reinsfeldt, i suggest you be less hasty and document yourself better next time. Lol
Here are restored proportions.
Arnold looks a strong 6'.05" and minimum 2 inches taller than Lowe here.
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Case closed... AGAIN! Lol. Ace says on 4/Feb/10
That's shot from to low an angle metric. It is impossible to tell. Anonymous says on 4/Feb/10
nice pic cj. he looks 6'1 max there next to reeve. GUY says on 4/Feb/10
Cj says on 4/Feb/10
The other Christopher Reeve and Arnold Schwarzenegger picture: Click Here
All i will say is unknown footing.
A better explanation can be derived by looking at the ceiling. This is a low angle shot, shooting up. It's not straight across like the other. By looking at how each is facing each other, Reeve is slightly closer to the camera. Arnold is a little more turned to face the front compared to Reeve which shows Reeve is slightly more in the foreground. A low angle shot will exaggerate any height differences. Even still, measuring by eye level and top height differences, Arnold still looks only 3 inches shorter there. Arnold's eye level is at the bottom of Reeves nose which is 3 inches. The bad upwards angle makes it appear much more. If it was a straight across shot where both were standing side by side with the same posture, Arnold would probably only be about 2 inches shorter there. samson27 says on 4/Feb/10
arnold always was average height or 6'0 tops max peak. BradMcKenzie says on 4/Feb/10
Metric: For f... sake! Give up your idiocrisy and trolling tendencies. You are here with an agenda without a doubt! You picked the one picture where no one knows if they are standing on level ground and make an entire conclusion? How about Rob Lowe being the one wearing lifts? He appears 2.5 - 3 inches shorter than Arnold in many pictures, but then he appears much closer to 6'2" Tom Arnold and 6'1" Arnold in another one. Visit the Rob Lowe page and it is well known that like Sly Stallone, he wears monster shoes. My God you are full of hatred, jealousy and possibly have an inferiority complex.
Rob Lowe with Arnold (Rob closer to camera, yet Arnold is clearly 2.5 - 3 inches taller than him):
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Arnold with legit 6'2" Tom Arnold and Rob Lowe (in lifts). Oh wait, that means Tom Arnold must be short too.
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If you want to see what type of shoes Arnold wears, this is a typical example where his foot is raised in the air with his socks exposed. Those shoes he wore in twins give on 0.6 - 1.0 of an inch maximum. They have a thin rubber sole:
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Everyone knows you are here just to troll this website just out of sheer hatred, agenda or just to have some fun stirring the pot. The pictures you post make no sense yet, you completely ignore all of the mountain of evidence that favors Arnold being 6'1" + in his prime. There is a reason why Rob has not even changed it one bit over the year. Still, it is too difficult for it to get in your st***d th*ck head! Metric says on 4/Feb/10
Schortzenegger BUSTED again!
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He is MUST closer to the camera than 5-10 Rob Lowe and still looks only 1 inch taller. If they stood straight side by side I doubt there would be much difference at all? Anyone still believes he is 6-2 or 6-1 today??? Cj says on 4/Feb/10
The other Christopher Reeve and Arnold Schwarzenegger picture: Click Here
All i will say is unknown footing. Cj says on 4/Feb/10
FunkyM says on 3/Feb/10
CJ: That is ridiculous. You should think before you write. I have heard Fredrik is closer to 6'2" and you downgrade it to 5'10"?? WTF???
I should think before i write? didnt you read what i said FunkyM?I didnt downgrade anything about his height,i used the internet and thats was his listed height bar 1 or two 5ft 11in listed ones for him on all the written info i came across said,so i must of thought enough to check and cross reference enough height listings of his before writing that height,the way you replied in a way to me is semi insulting(well thats the way i perceived it) and a reason i steer clear of getting into written discussions on here and just leave it to posting pictures and let everyone else discuss.
So in other words dont insult me for sharing info widely available whether right or wrong and claim its ridiculous and telling me to think before i write and no I didnt downgrade his height 5ft10in "WTF??"did you read? jk, i said 5'10ū" as i said earlier thats what most of the written research i came across said,not my words,just passed on info.
God,didnt anyone read my 2/Feb/10 about comprmise for the good of discussion here instead of arguing (yeah i know i kinda argued back with my last few sentences there but atleast i comprimised with the Fredrik listings "whether right or wrong"comment and its info found on the web its not like i made up out of thin air,im open to hearing thing other whys but there are ways to write things without seeming like a ass about it.
I have always said i believe Arnie is still around the 6ft mark albeit aging and relaxed/poor posture may make him look less,peak height 6ft 1 and 1/2in as stated by Joe Weider in one of his books. GUY says on 3/Feb/10
Metric says on 3/Feb/10
Remember how the Twit pic showed Arnold wearing ridicoulusly built up clown shoes?? Looked like something out of Robert Downeys shoe cabinet lol. The pic was ignored by the fanboys with an almost eerie silence.
Dude is a lift monger. Plain and simple.
No, that pic wasn't ignored. It was discussed. What was ignored was your stupid logic that it somehow proved Arnold was ALWAYS a lift wearer even if a photo was 20, 30, 40 years old. That's what you were doing. Also it was never concluded they were ever "lifts" but probably just a chuncky stylish boot. Remember Arnold was wearing ordinary dress shoes and looked slightly taller than 6' Tony Blair. Your claim that "IF" Arnold was wearing lifts or even a chuncky shoe in your "twit pic" is not proof in claiming Arnold has to have been 5'10" or 5'11". The pic with Blair proves that is a plain wrong assumption. Do you understand this? Maybe I'll type a little slower for you. Arnold might have been 6' 1/2" in your pic but wanting to still look in the 6'2" range as he still does from time to time. Your photo proves nothing so don't come back in another month and claim no one gives you any attention. You could fill this entire page with posts and photos you've just ignored. Your entire argument and position here demands you ignore most of what everyone here brings. That's the only way your little dream in your little world can keep on existing. Hunke says on 3/Feb/10
Lol, Fredrik Reinfeldt is 189 cm what i have heard, so minimun 186 cm since he is taller then Obama, GUY says on 3/Feb/10
Lucio has shown that the evidence for Reinfeldt is at most inconclusive. I don't know about these 5'10 3/4" listings but it doesn't check out with cross reference to Blair and Obama. FunkyM says on 3/Feb/10
Rob G: Problem is Fredrik has a loose posture in every single picture. Look at the twist in his torso.
Look at Fredik walking beside Obama. He has a much loose posture than Obama and no hair volume because he is bald. Yet, Obama is shorter than Fredik. Obama is 6'1".
Fredrik as stated at many different places is closer to 6'2". FunkyM says on 3/Feb/10
CJ: That is ridiculous. You should think before you write. I have heard Fredrik is closer to 6'2" and you downgrade it to 5'10"?? WTF???
Looking at Metric jumping up and down with his "gotcha" politics without even investigation of what he reads is simply pathetic! Chaz says on 3/Feb/10
Anonymous,if Arnold was only 5'11''peak then Christopher Reeve must have been only 6'1.5'' I don't think so" Rob G says on 3/Feb/10
Lucio says on 2/Feb/10
As you can see from these photos, Fredrik Reinfeldt is tall MINIMUM 6'1.25"(186 cm), because do you explain me, Metric, how can a guy tall 180 cm (5' 10ū") to be taller than a legit 6'.00" as Tony Blair and taller than a strong 6'.1.25" (186 cm) Barak Obama?
Ha, yeah, you're absolutely right Lucio. Reinfeldt looks strong 6'1"ish in your pictures, 5'10.75" is impossible for him. So, Arnie looks 6'0"ish beside Reinfeldt. Cj says on 3/Feb/10
Lucio says on 2/Feb/10
Fredrik Reinfeldt tall 5'10ū" ????? But where do you come from a crap like this? Lol.
A google search gave me that and only that listed height for him,there wasnt much info on his height from what i could see.
Sorry,some poor spelling and 2 sentences appear twice for some reason in my 2/Feb/10 post. Shaun says on 3/Feb/10
Am I the only one who still thinks Arnie looks 6'' - 6'1" even in those "short" pics below. He has easily 2 inches on that Swedish prime minister, 3 inches on Worthington etc. I do not see him under 6'. I see him more 6'-6'0.5". Metric says on 3/Feb/10
Remember how the Twit pic showed Arnold wearing ridicoulusly built up clown shoes?? Looked like something out of Robert Downeys shoe cabinet lol. The pic was ignored by the fanboys with an almost eerie silence.
Dude is a lift monger. Plain and simple. Anonymous says on 2/Feb/10
Arnold prime 5'-11"/11.5" now 5'-10/10.5 Rob G says on 2/Feb/10
Cj says on 1/Feb/10
Fredrik Reinfeldt 5' 10ū" swedish prime minister and Arnie: Click Here Click Here
Sam Worthington 5ft 9in and Arnie: Click Here
Branson,Blair and Arnie: Click Here
Arnie and Blair: Click Here
Wow, if Reinfeld is truly just shy of 5'11" Arnie looks in the second picture with him to be 5'10"ish. Makes you wonder...this picture indeed is baffling. Lucio says on 2/Feb/10
Metric as usual you sang victory too soon...
First consideration: in the first picture we see Arnold at least 1 inch taller than Fredrik Reinfeldt while shaking hands.
Second consideration: the second picture is distorted and with a weird shooting angle, and as if that were not enough, shot from above that, as well you know, completely distorts the proportions of things.
It's always the same speech: Metric, Lynn and Ali, they would like that one or two shabby and ramshackle photos, sweep away the vast majority of photos well done.
Illusion: it is not.
And now the strong piece.
Fredrik Reinfeldt tall 5'10ū" ?????
But where do you come from a crap like this? Lol.
As you can see from these photos, Fredrik Reinfeldt is tall MINIMUM 6'1.25"(186 cm), because do you explain me, Metric, how can a guy tall 180 cm (5' 10ū") to be taller than a legit 6'.00" as Tony Blair and taller than a strong 6'.1.25" (186 cm) Barak Obama?
This one you must really explain to me!
Fredrik Reinfeldt with Tony Blair
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Fredrik Reinfeldt with Obama.
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In this video, Arnold, even though closer to the camera, looks consistently taller than Fredrik Reinfeldt.
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Metric, you should drink more that to victory, to an umpteenth defeat! Lol. FunkyM says on 2/Feb/10
That is ridiculous. Arnold is still somewhere in the 6 foot range. Since Avatar picture was posted below, I am posting some true side by side pictures of Arnold from 'Avatar' premier in December 2009:
Arnold with 6'1" Harrison Ford on Avatar premier:
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Arnold with 6'2" James Cameron on Avatar premier:
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James Cameron with 5'9" Sam worthington:
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Look at recent pictures of Arnie with 6'2" James Cameron. Click Here Click Here Cj says on 2/Feb/10
Bob Delmonteque was 6ft and 195lbs at age 16 and at age 84 nothing has changed acording to this: Click Here he is around age 91 these days though.more info and pictures on Bob: Click Here
Metric - i know it may seem like a victory for you and others and Arnold may seem under 6ft but MY PERSONAL OPINION is he is still in the 6ft region albeit a combination of aging,poor posture or naturally very relaxed posture may make him seem smaller than 6ft,but when he wants to,he seems to measure up well near genuine 6 footers but some may say lifts,big heeled shoes or cowboy style footwear play a part but you never know he could be below 6ft.
Bob Delmonteque was 6ft and 195lbs at age 16 and at age 84 nothing has changed acording to this: Click Here he is around age 91 these days though.more info and pictures on Bob: Click Here
Metric - i know it may seem like a victory for you and others and Arnold may seem under 6ft but MY PERSONAL OPINION is he is still in the 6ft region albeit a combination of aging,poor posture or naturally very relaxed posture may make him seem smaller than 6ft,but when he wants to,he seems to measure up well near genuine 6 footers but some may say lifts,big heeled shoes or cowboy style footwear play a part but you never know he could be below 6ft.
On this sight i rarely get into discussions about Arnies height,i just add fuel to the flames so to speak with pictures i come across then let you guys do the discussing,to many insults are thrown around here coupled with highly self opinionated views with no room for compromise or reasoning,everyone should look at each others side of the argument and see the pro and cons of each side then form more of a sensible argument. Metric says on 2/Feb/10
Brian - LIFTS! After comparing with Bob Delmonteque/Seagal this should be a no-brainer! Arnold didnīt have his magic shoes on with Bob. With Reeve he knew in advance he was attending a major public ceremony and that he would be photographed next to Superman. Do you really think Schortzenegger would let 6-4 Reeve DESTROY him in public?? No, of course not.
Then why wouldnīt he be wearing lifts with Bob Delmonteque and why doesnīt he wear lifts 100% of the time?? The explanation is simple: Arnold is a calculating media wh*re. He knows how to present himself and more importantly with WHOM and WHEN. He knows someone like Reeve was world famous and that EVERYBODY around the globe knew of his proud 6-4 height. "Big" Arnold simply could NOT allow this man to HUMILIATE him and expose his "big man" lie in broad daylight and at a huge public event. Someone like Mr. Delmonteque is known only to a small audience and as such he is someone who cannot really threaten Arnolds reputation. Only bodybuilding connoseiurs like myself will ever come across that pic. Thatīs why Arn doesnīt give a f**k next to Bob and left his magic shoes at home.
You simply CANīT argue that Arnold would look like Bob Delmonteque next to Seagal (DWARFED by half a head) and possibly even shorter! Anything else is just pi*s poor excuses and fanboy wishful thinking. Brian says on 1/Feb/10
Metric says on 31/Jan/10
Even if you think Arnold and Bob Delmonteque are the same height (which they are NOT) this pic with Bob/Seagal shows how Arnold would like next to a legit 6-4 man.
You know what would prove how Arnold would look standing next to a legit 6'4" man even better? Arnold standing next to a legit 6'4" man:
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Arnold with 6'4" Christopher Reeve on the left. It's been offered up on this page several times before, but Arnold sure doesn't look half a foot shorter than him like Metric says he should. What say you to that, Metric? Metric says on 1/Feb/10
Cj - Those are friggin unbelieveable pics!!
EXCELLENT work!
Arnold struggles with 5-10 in EVERY ONE of your delightful pics!
Rob, you have to lower his height. 6-0 is pure fantasy.
Arnold is LUCKY if he still hits 5-11?? Personally I donīt think he does anymore. He is somewhere between 5-10.25 and 5-10.75. That is the TRUTH.
Pics like these makes us understand where all the 5-10 sightings are coming from. Lol. Arnold without stealths. What a precious sight! Getting humiliated by a man who is 5-10.75. Hilarious. Iīm out of words, really.
He really is a ***SHORTzenegger*** after all.
I wish Ali was here to enjoy this victory with us. Danimal says on 1/Feb/10
RisingForce says on 31/Jan/10
Definitely 6'0.5".
Definitely? NO. Maybe.. Can be as low as 5'11.5". Everyone assumes that the British Prime Minister is exactly 6'0" and at his age has remained the exact same height. BradMcKenzie says on 1/Feb/10
Metric: Seriously, you either need eyesight glasses or you need to pull your head out of your ...... and realize how big of a petty little man you look continuously and relentlessly trying to downgrade Arnold's height.
Arnold is farther away from Bob Delmontique and Arnold is still is atleast 1.5 - 2 inches taller. Again Bob is much closer to the camera than Arnold and yet Arnold's head is way above Bob's head. Seriously, if you are telling me Bob is taller than Arnold in that picture, you seriously are demented and suffering from paranoid dellusions. Chaz says on 1/Feb/10
Vegas you can forget about Blair being less than 6',because here in the UK one of the things that comes up a lot when people say they met him was how tall he was, LSU ALum says on 1/Feb/10
I want some of what metric is smoking,it must be the most intoxicating substance known to man. Lucio says on 1/Feb/10
Guy did you see?
Metric did not come out with his statement "Great find" and "case closed", but he went VERY VERY CLOSE! Lol.
However in my opinion, missing very little.
Not only because the photo is half-body, but also because Delmonteque in the pictured with Arnie is much younger, i believe in 1987-88 or thereabouts.
I had say that Lynn was approaching to the what I call "THE MOTHER CRAP FOR EXCELLENCE" said by Ali of 178 cm. Arnold prime, but it seems that Metric has wrought Ali and Lynn on the time! Lolz! Cj says on 1/Feb/10
A interesting quote a heard from the creator of the Terminator endoskelton Stan Winston when talking about making the endo for the movie "it has all the same measurment as Arnold,the endo is 6ft 1in tall" i will have to find the exact word for word quote but that im pretty much sure is what he said amongst other things related to making the endo at the time. Metric says on 1/Feb/10
And yeah, gotta say it: Lynn your pic is BRILLIANT!!
It is one of those rare pics that is BEYOND bulls**t !!
Can the fanboys please spell H U M I L I A T I O N for me??
Lol. Lucio says on 31/Jan/10
Lynn, don't you climb over the mirrors.
The photos are almost perfect, not rotated, not tilted, just compare the frame of the picture with the step of the sidewalk to see that they are perfectly parallel. Click Here (Looking at the red line drawn by me on the edge of sidewalk).
Lynn, I see that you're a little spiteful.
Because with all the times when you could stop the video with Bush and Arnold, you have stopped the frame just while they are making the step and, needless to do it on purpose, one the opposite of the other.
It 'obvious that when we are making the step, we are all slightly shorter a few inches and I've never seen anyone compare the height of two people while they are walking!
Normally you do when you stand still! Lol.
Once again, Lynn, leads to support of your arguments easily deniability that would make laugh even a child of three years.
I would say that the primacy of bigger crap still belongs to Ali, which currently is still unsurpassed ... I said at the time!
Yes because if you continue on this way Lynn, very soon the primacy will be yours. Lol.
Try again Lynn, you'll be more fortunate.
In italian:
Riprova che ti andrā meglio, Lynn. Lol. GUY says on 31/Jan/10
Lynn says on 30/Jan/10
Blair is taller.
The ground is not even. And Arnold had very nice big shoes.
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saying that Arnold is clearly taller than Bush.
But are we sure??
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Considering the ground the pic says that day they were same height!
Umm, no and no to the first statement. As far as the Bush and Arnold photo you've just provided, it's just typical. To "give you what you want" you have to relie on a compressed long shot from a vid cap that is fuzzy and blurry. Why is this? What's wrong with the other proper actual photos? You, Metric, and Ali are all essentially the same entitity. You painstakingly search the internet for that one photo that "gives you what you want" while of course stepping over all the hundreds of photos that don't. How many photos of Arnold looking clearly taller than Bush did your eyes pass over before you found this one? Why would you assume ALL those other photos would be just canceled out by this blurry compressed long distance vid cap? I'm just waiting for Metric to come in with his typical "great find", and "case closed" remark. RisingForce says on 31/Jan/10
Definitely 6'0.5". Brian says on 31/Jan/10
Lynn, what are you talking about? There are plenty of full body shots with Arnold and Blair that show that the ground is even and that Blair and Arnold are both in dress shoes. I don't think you could find many better photos proving Arnold's current height.
Your pic of Arnold and Bush in all fairness does make the strongest case that Arnold is below 6' today, but there are a few problems with it: 1) It looks like Arnold is leaning a bit forward while Bush is straigtened out, 2) the camera is so far away that there is no telling if Arnie and Bush are on the same plain, and 3) there are not any lines in the back to get any idea of just how straight the ground is (I also think it's a little strange that you say the ground is uneven in the Blair picks without any evidence that it is but without any evidence you also say that the ground is perfect in your pick). Also, in the video you posted, Arnold looks taller than 5'11" Bush throughout the entire course of the two standing together. Heck, if someone wanted, they could probably post dozens of frames from that video where Arnold looks 6'0" or more next to Bush. However, I've got a bad feeling that Metric will proclaim your photo as being undeniable proof that Arnold is 5'11". . . Metric says on 31/Jan/10
Here are some pictures for comparison that shows how Arnold looks a shocking 5-10 to 5-11 in his PRIME!!
First we have Arnold with Mr. Bob Delmonteque: Click Here
Bob is clearly TALLER than Arnold by at least 1 inch (solid)! Bob is hunching and bending his head down towards Arnold.
Right? Then look at Bob next to 6-4 Seagal: Click Here
I see 4-5 inches difference. Seagal is not even standing straight.
Bob is DWARFED!
Even if you think Arnold and Bob Delmonteque are the same height (which they are NOT) this pic with Bob/Seagal shows how Arnold would like next to a legit 6-4 man.
Just picture Arnold in Bobs place (only a little shorter of course!). Yup, thatīs "big" Arnie getting HUMILIATED by more than 6 inches in Seagals favor!! Do the math = 5-10 to 5-11 for PRIME Arnold!!
Iīm not saying he was only 5-10. What I AM saying is that this lying mofo has NEVER seen 6-2 in his life! Nor 6-1 for that matter! Indeed the 6-0 is starting to look suspicious as well!??
Also consider this: the ideal height for a bodybuilder is 5-11. Arnold was always considered the BEST and most ideal bodybuilder in the world.
Itīs almost too obvious, isnīt it??
Just look at today. How many 6-2 Mr. Olympias do we see or have we EVER seen walk on the stage??? Right. NONE!!
All the most succesful guys in bodybuilding are in the range 5-8 to 5-11.
Arnold at 6-2 might just be the most ridicoulus thing I ever heard.
Excuse while I go have a hysterical one...
Lol. Vegas says on 31/Jan/10
lynn; arnie is taller than bush, i could post 10 more videos of him being taller, he isn't a massive amount taller but he is taller
but and this is a huge BUT, the question is how tall are bush and indeed blair, i was convinced bush was a solid 5'11, however this video throws everything up in the air, kobe bryant claims 6'4 for himself skip forward to 8mins 10seconds, now if kobe is 6'4 like he claims then obama is under 6ft, even if kobe is his listed height of 6'6 (which he ain't) then obama is still struggling with 6'1, now obamas true height brings into question bush and blairs true height and thus arnies Click Here gabe says on 30/Jan/10
I always thought he was around 6'1" flat in all his films in the early days he was shorter than James Earl Jones in Conan The Barbarian, He was shorter than all the guys in Running Man. To me he has always had that whole huge 6'5" hulk like impression because hes always been a big built guy. I think now hes around 6 feet flat hes not as big as he used to be either he looks like a normal sized older man. He looked about the same like Michael Biehn and Robert Patrick in the terminator films. He was about an inch shorter than Carl Weathers in predator. He was a lot shorter than Jessie Ventura in Running man and in Batman and Robin. I just think the way his body is built always made him look a lot taller than what he is. Lynn says on 30/Jan/10
Blair is taller.
The ground is not even. And Arnold had very nice big shoes.
And,
vegas posted this Click Here
saying that Arnold is clearly taller than Bush.
But are we sure??
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Considering the ground the pic says that day they were same height! Lucio says on 30/Jan/10
Thanks Guy, rightly as you say, if Arnold was an inch shorter than Blair, we should appreciate in ALL photos this difference, but as you can see it doesn't.
Metric think that we forget the countless comparisons made here, and punctually, come back to repeat his obsessive-compulsive "refrain".
Guy, to avoid re-post the same photos all the times and given the good criteria of these photos, we could propose to Rob, if he wouldn't consider it appropriate to publish them on top of this page. Danimal says on 30/Jan/10
Arnold's not less than 5'11.5" and not more than 6'0.5". So yes, he's somewhere in that range. GUY says on 29/Jan/10
Lucio says on 28/Jan/10
Yes Metric, pity that these photos say the contrary! Lol.
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In my area there is a proverb: "One swallow doesn't make a spring", but ten swallows YES, I add.
These photos are well known by all us (even from Metric) and I am a little tired to post them, but rather a time in more than one time less.
He is a solid 6'.05" today. No doubt.
Case closed.
Yes I agree. Case closed. These are full body, balanced photos. Both are standing next to each other and even facing each other. What better criteria can you get?! I agree Lucio these old established photos give a strong been there, done that feeling. That's what these trolls like Metric do. They cycle back these old arguments every few weeks like it's the first time. Metric, if you come back in a month spouting the same crap about Blair being taller than Arnold like you have amnesia, you are not just a troll but an idiot. I'll call you on it. If Arnold is one inch shorter as you say, he should appear so in the photos Lucio just provided. He doesn't. There is no way a person one inch shorter could be so consistantly taller given how similar they are standing. ACG says on 29/Jan/10
Whoever says Arnold is still over 6' tall is correct. No doubt he was taller in his prime (strong 6'2" midday), but now he is most likely "only" 6'.5", possibly a weak 6'1". joshwefref says on 29/Jan/10
Arnold's hair adds an inch to him, he is about 5'11 now maybe 6'0 tops, NOW. Fat Bastard says on 29/Jan/10
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w/Premier McGuinty (Ontario), who is 6' 2" rob89 says on 29/Jan/10
I wouldn't be so sure that Arnie is taller than Blair in Lucio's pics. It might appear that way because Arnie looks to have a slight posture advantage in most of them. To me, they seem to be exactly the same height. Cj says on 29/Jan/10
I posted some of these pictures before but they for some reason seemed to get ignored:
6ft 3in listed Athelete Rafer Johnson,Age 74,with Arnie in dress shoes Click Here Click Here i would say Arnie is definitely in the 6ft flat region providing Johnson has not shrank,take into account though he is 74 years old.
5ft 6in listed George Lucas with Arnie in dress shoes Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here a 5ft 6in Lucas is near Arnie's eye line like a 5ft 8in Rob or manum is when he stands near 6ft 2in or so celebs that to me makes Arnie these days around the 6ft flat mark without a doubt. Cj says on 29/Jan/10
I have no doubt Arnie is still in the 6ft range and probably not below it,as he is still close in height with his good friend James Cameron who is 6ft 2in,Cameron and Arnie can be seen in many pictures together in a simple google search. Danimal says on 28/Jan/10
Lynn says on 20/Jan/10
Danimal, sorry
but Flex is a good inch taller than Levrone. Levrone is a weak 5-9.
And yes, you are right Gunter Schlierkamp is 6'0.5" as Arnold peak height was.
All other height are pretty correct.
Arnold was measured by Vince Basille at 6'1.5". How many times do we have to go over this Lynn? How many more times? Shaun says on 28/Jan/10
Neither Blair or Arnie are under 6'. Even accounting for Arnie's high hair I can still buy 184 in comparison. A cm is virtually undetectable but he DOES NOT look shorter than Blair. Anonymous says on 28/Jan/10
blair is taller than arnold. Lucio says on 28/Jan/10
Yes Metric, pity that these photos say the contrary! Lol.
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In my area there is a proverb: "One swallow doesn't make a spring", but ten swallows YES, I add.
These photos are well known by all us (even from Metric) and I am a little tired to post them, but rather a time in more than one time less.
He is a solid 6'.05" today. No doubt.
Case closed. Vegas says on 28/Jan/10
video of blair and arnie, they look extremely close to me Click Here
george w and arnie, arnie stands closer to the camera but at the start he is clearly taller than bush Click Here clearly taller than bush here too Click Here
arnie and clinton, really can't tell if he is closer here or not Click Here GUY says on 28/Jan/10
Metric says on 27/Jan/10
I see 1 inch difference between Arn and Blair in the first pic. Even Arnolds huge hair canīt conceal the truth. He IS shorter than Blair. No doubt.
Typical moron assessment. Metric doesn't say boo about the dozens of full body shots of Arnold and Blair standing side by side with perfect camera level, but he's quick to pounce on a low angle shot with no full body that gives him what he wants. Sorry the other photos are far more accurate because of said criteria and therefore will be used for reference. You have to understand that IF Arnold WAS one inch shorter, he would have appeared as such in those other much more level and balanced full person photos. He doesn't. So the photos below mean jack squat no matter how they appear. Arnold looked slightly taller than Blair in the dozens of better, for the most part perfect, photos that you have kept your crooked mouth shut on. These last photos DON'T cancel out all the others because they are low angle and we can't see their feet. Blair looks to be a little closer to the camera also. A low angle shot will exaggerate this. They are inferior quality. I swear my purpose here is to trim your bull off this page as you say it. Metric says on 27/Jan/10
I see 1 inch difference between Arn and Blair in the first pic. Even Arnolds huge hair canīt conceal the truth. He IS shorter than Blair. No doubt. Anonymous says on 27/Jan/10
he's the same height as tony blair, possibly shorter. if i had to guess who would be taller, it sure wouldn't be arnie. arnie's poofy dyed hair gives the illusion of looking taller than blair. Shaun says on 27/Jan/10
Again the Blair pics proove he is the 6'0.5" I think he is. He looks marginally taller than 6' Tony Blair. It is difficult though to gage where the top of his hair is though as Arnie has always had "high" hair. Brian says on 26/Jan/10
Rob, I know I'm splitting hairs, but if everyone here is listed at their lunchtime heights then shouldn't Arnold be 6'1.75" peak since Vince Basille said the 6-1.5 measurement was in the evening?
[Editor Rob: I think from having measured a fair number of people that the shrinkage from 1pm till 9pm is about 2mm on average]
Rob, I, like Rising, admit I'm getting pedantic, but do you think that lifting weights like Arnold did could have increased his daily height loss, especially where Arnold had a thinner, less sturdy bone structure?
[Editor Rob: I don't know, some people say weight lifting has no effect on height. Maybe excessive forces beyond what normal folk lift might cause more wear and tear to the discs and lead to problems] BradMcKenzie says on 26/Jan/10
Metric: Completely agree with you. Ralf Mueller looked ridiculous in Conan TV show. He was utterly boring. He had no presence whatsoever. His acting skills are extremely poor. Not that Arnold was a great actor, far from it, but he owned the Conan character through his body language, facial expressions, portrayal of mood in the scene, charisma, charm and power of brute force.
Obviously, his sword fighting skills in Conan were amazing as well and swinging the sword around him seem second nature to him. Ralf looks like fool swinging the sword around him.
Then again, Conan had the most amazing soundtrack ever by Basil Poleidrous. Anonymous says on 25/Jan/10
This man is a legend.
Barefeet
Peak Height 6"1.5'
Now??? who knows.. Metric says on 25/Jan/10
Ralph Moeller does not have the looks to carry a big scale Hollywood movie. There is nothing distinctive about his face. Rather he looks sorta like an old and worn out shoe in the face. He looks very tired and like he doesnīt take care of himself very well. Nobody wants to pay to see that.
In the Conan TV-series he was in great physical condition but his face was awful. He looked so tired and drained that it hurt to watch him. Absolutely NO charisma! He was a shadow man. No reference to the Seagal movie. Lol. RisingForce says on 25/Jan/10
Rob, I know I'm splitting hairs, but if everyone here is listed at their lunchtime heights then shouldn't Arnold be 6'1.75" peak since Vince Basille said the 6-1.5 measurement was in the evening?
[Editor Rob: I think from having measured a fair number of people that the shrinkage from 1pm till 9pm is about 2mm on average] Shaun says on 25/Jan/10
6'1.5" barefoot without a doubt in his prime, the proof is overwhelming. We've seen him barefoot and he was noticeably tall for a bodybuilding competitor compared to the others. Today, he has lost an inch or 1.5 I think. In his prime he was 5 inches taller than 5'8.5" Stallone. Shaun says on 25/Jan/10
5'11" for Arnie is bull****. There is a picture of him next to 5'10" Ronnie Coleman in 2003 at powerlineblog.com and in shoes Arnie is four inches taller. He had to be sround 6'2" in shoes compared to Coleman. I'd imageine barefoot Arnie is probably 6'0.5". Heightcritique says on 25/Jan/10
Some franchises intelligently prepared the audience for a sequel in various ways: 1) by adopting the change in character in the storyline (i.e. Bond is an agent perpetually replaced by another agent code name 007), and 2) Star Trek call the new crew and ships the 'New Generation.'
In contrast, some movies end with foreshadows of sequels such is the case with Conan in 'Conan the Destroyer.' There was no closure on the Conan character epic adventures personalized so well by Arnold. Maybe if Conan in the last sequel 'Destroyer' had a son in the storyline, a replacement may work well but I doubt another character can take his place in the pending sequel. Also, some actors play a character so well that they immortalized their roles in the public's conscious; some examples: 1) Harrison Ford playing Indiana Jones and Han Solo, 2) Stallone playing Rocky and Rambo, and 3) Schwarzenegger playing Conan and Terminator.
If Arnold is not cast as the main character in the next Conan, the producers and directors are running a big risk in not scoring a blockbuster IMO. Heightcritique says on 25/Jan/10
Guy, keep in mind the following frachises: Indiana Jones, and Rambo. Steven Spielberg said in an interview that Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones and no one else but Ford will ever play the role in the big screen; and Rambo, I think Stallone will cast no one but himself to play role. Both franchises did extremely well in the box office which shows not only quality movie making but a loyal audience who supports their favorite actors. Evidently, Ford and Stallone both in their 60s (as Arnold) still have the appeal and the mature talent to continue playing these action heroes. IMO the Conan franchise falls in this category.
Kevin Sorbo and Ralph Moeller may be some possible candidates, but they don't have the charisma and brutality of the barbarian character Conan that Arnold personalizes with such naturality and realism. GUY says on 24/Jan/10
I don't think they'd want to put Arnold in the lead of the new Conan film. This follows the lead of the recent trend of rebooting old franchises such as Star Trek, Batman, or Bond. They'd want a fresh young cast where Arnold is also probably too old for the lead. They would probably work him in somewhere in the cast though. Don says on 23/Jan/10
we will get to see him in the upcoming movie The Expendables. Lucio says on 23/Jan/10
Metric, for once we agree.
I also think that the best role for Arnold are those in which he show to be a hard, resolute and determined as Terminator, Conan, Predator, Commando, Red Heat, my favorites Arnold's movies.
Obviously, he has succeeded well in these roles thanks to his powerful physique and somatics characteristics.
Honestly, even me i don't like films such as Twins, Junior, Kindergarten Cop to name a few because in my opinion, given his physical structure, he is not suitable for him to play comedy films or romantic comedies, i too would storch the nose.
Even Clint Eastwood (another of my favorite actors) if they have realized and returned in part to a role of "hard" in "Gran Torino." Heightcritique says on 23/Jan/10
Besides a good story and script, and casting Arnold at 6'2", a bodybuilder and talented actor to play the main character, the movie 'Conan the Barbarian' was also a success because of its outstanding score by Basil Poledouris which surpassed all my expectations and added a certain realistic, ardent, and zealous feeling to the movie. I hope the producers of the remake realize this and bring these epic sounds again.
The supporting cast in the first movie was also very talented. I cannot say the same for the second 'Conan the Destroyer': among them the thief character was a 'moron' and non-comical, and the chick fighting with a wood stick was an over the top character which added unnecessary and unrealistic fantasy to the fighting scenes (i.e. a wood stick vs. a sword); they diverted attention to the natural flow of the storyline and were intrusive to the main character realistic performance. These two characters did not support but oppose the main character and IMO the reason why the movie was a big dissapointment and did poorly at the box office.
With all the new advancements in computer graphics I am expecting an action packed flick, a blockbuster full of realistic new foes either in flesh or in computer graphics. GUY says on 22/Jan/10
Metric I agree and disagree with you on Arnold's career. One thing is for certain, Arnold's broad universal appeal, that at least for a time spread into the female audience, was initiated by the film Twins. Twins, whether you like it or not, was probably Arnold's pivotal film. Before he simply made films where there was little dialoque or range of character, and high violence count. Women have chickflix and men have guyflix. A film like Predator was a high octane testosterone driven film where the premise of hunting and the hunted had most appeal to male audiences. Other films from that era were only moderately successful and by no means signified Arnold as the top box office draw. Raw Deal and Red Heat were not greatly successful films or well recieved, especially as follow ups to Commando and Terminator. If he had continued along that path, his decline might have began ten years earlier.
Twins offered a much more sophisticated acting role that required a broader degree of talent for Arnie. His characters naivity and the humor resulting from it had to be believable or it would seem silly. The juxtaposition of Arnold's imposing physical presense within a romantic comedy film was entirely unique at the time. Ivan Reitman got the most out of him and the rest of the actors were cast brilliantly. Kindergarten Cop, Reitman's other film with Arnold, was similar in being lighter fair that had broader demographic appeal. Both films were a brilliant move on Arnold's part at the time as to prevent him from being permanantly typecast. In doing so, his other films of the time such as Total Recal and T2 had their appeal enhanced for a broader audience which translated into higher ticket sales. BradMcKenzie says on 22/Jan/10
I recently watched 'Commando' on TV in high-definition on my 46 inches Sony Bravia TV.
Just watching the first scene where Arnold is carrying a real tree log (yes, producers and director in the making stated Arnold carried a "real" tree log on his shoulder that no one else in the crew could lift. It is not a prop) on his shoulder and chain saw on the other end really made me think that one scene pretty defines an era right there. I have never seen a scene with that much testosterone in any of the new movies except if I am watching "strongest man" competitions.
No one else could do it like Arnold. The way he combined brute force, chrisma, menacing humor, emotionlessness and ruthlesness is simply unmatched by any other action star.
"You are a funny guy sully. I like you. That's why I am going to kill you last". Metric says on 22/Jan/10
Lucio - I agree that Terminator is purely Arnolds vehicle. Look what happened when they brought on Bale: FLOP FLOP FLOP. The idea of casting Roland Kickinger in the role is downright ABSURD! Anyone ever saw him in that movie where he plays young Arnold?? BAARF!
Arnold may be a fraud and liar in many ways but he was born to play Terminator. There is no denying this. The mistake he made later in his career was trying to broaden his appeal too much (and to the feminine audience). Movies like 6th day flopped big time because NOBODY wants to see Arnold as a sensitive family dad who calls the police and asks them "PLEASE" when somebody kidnaps his family (HORRIBLE scene, really). If somebody kidnaps his wife and daughter we wanna see him steal a Harrier Jump Jet and blow up some serious a** for christs sake!!
The thing with Arnold is that women donīt really find him that sexy. They see him as a protector. So women DONīT wanna se him beg (He does it End of Days, he does it in 6th Day and he does it in Collateral Damage). They wanna see him kick a**. And so does men.
Arnolds major audience in the 80s were MEN. They loved his emotionless and cold demeanor and the way he killed people (on screen) without blinking. Then came the latter part of the 90s where he got soft and touchy-feely and the men just scattered away, repulsed to see him go on the oestrogen-trail (lol) and act like a little sissy.
IMO Arnold made a big miscalculation at this point.
Movies like True Lies were successful because he was everything in that movie that appeals to both the men and women in his audience. And thatīs how you score box office gold.
Now if Arnold is going to have any chance of a comeback in Hollywood he must go back to this formula. Unfortunately I fear that he will demonstrate an even further deroute and maybe try to make something like Eastwoods "Bridges of Madison County"?? That would be a true disaster.
We shall see what he chooses. Metric says on 22/Jan/10
Lucio - That Anonymous was not me!! I agree that Arnold can whip himself into shape fast if he wants to. Since I train myself I know all about muscle memory etc. Please stop assuming that every Anonymoys is me. It happened a few times because of my laptop clearing the cookies apparently. But now I have made it a habit to check the name box every time before I submit a post.
I donīt wanīt to get credit for all these posts Iīm not making lol. Lucio says on 22/Jan/10
Anonymous says on 21/Jan/10
arnold is to old to play conan the barbarian, and is not tall , average height.
if he took any more steroids, or etc.... as he looks now he probably have a heart attack.
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Metric, if Stallone succeeded to get fit who has one more year of Arnold, i don't see why he cannot succeed.
Let us remember that in 2003 he had already had heart surgery, yet he managed to get fit very well for Terminator 3.
Also i, like Heightcritique, I am convinced that if he spends more time in the gym, in a very short time he would able to get one more enviable shape, still worthy of a Conan somewhat in beyond with years.
After all you were just you to say that really you Metric Arnold has a "muscle memory second to no one, TO NO ONE.
As for Terminator, also for Conan i don't see anyone else for this role. GUY says on 22/Jan/10
Mark says on 20/Jan/10
I'm fascinated as to how this topic got on evolution. So, I thought I'd pause to add that I, personally, don't believe in evolution ..as it's taught. Scientists sum up their beliefs, present it as fact, and mock anyone who disagrees. Please note; It's what they don't tell you, and that which they don't know that is the most telling. I'd give Arnie a strong 6'1, never any more. He has never looked like a 6'2 guy to me, ever.
Then I'm sure you're well aquainted with the point of that post. Lucio says on 21/Jan/10
Lynn says on 20/Jan/10
Danimal, sorry
but Flex is a good inch taller than Levrone. Levrone is a weak 5-9.
And yes, you are right Gunter Schlierkamp is 6'0.5" as Arnold peak height was.
All other height are pretty correct.
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Lynn, also "your friend" Giuseppe Trombetta told you that Arnold in his prime was 186 cm, the pics you posted tell us this, but you persevere in your belief.
I think you don't want to believe your eyes at all costs, not you known why. SupermanFreak says on 21/Jan/10
Arnold was 6'1" - 6'1.5" atleast in his prime. There is no doubt about it. He towered over everyone barefoot in his body building days.
Here is 6'1.5" Schwarzenegger with 6'4" one and only superman Christopher Reeve. Arnold even relaxed and not standing straight is 2 - 2.5 inches shorter than Reeve
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arnold is to old to play conan the barbarian, and is not tall , average height.
if he took any more steroids, or etc.... as he looks now he probably have a heart attack. GUY says on 21/Jan/10
Lynn says on 20/Jan/10
Danimal, sorry
but Flex is a good inch taller than Levrone. Levrone is a weak 5-9.
And yes, you are right Gunter Schlierkamp is 6'0.5" as Arnold peak height was.
All other height are pretty correct.
But Arnold was 6'1.5". That's what it says at the top of the page. See, up there. Is that what it says? I guess it does. Heightcritique says on 21/Jan/10
We may get a chance to verify if Arnold is still at 6'1 1/8" as the interview in SF Chronicle confirmed in footage in 2008. The character 'Conan the Barbarian' is being revived in Hollywood TBA in 2011 Click Here
. I hope Arnold is casted again as the main character. If Stallone revived 'Rambo' and has another 'John J.' movie in the works, I am sure Arnold can do it too. We may get a clue if Arnold starts spending more time in the gym which I am sure the press will be covering. I cannot think of a more 'natural' actor who can portray Conan better than him. I would definitely would go see a sequel with Arnold as Conan. Anonymous says on 20/Jan/10
Metric just needs a hug by Arnold Lynn says on 20/Jan/10
Danimal, sorry
but Flex is a good inch taller than Levrone. Levrone is a weak 5-9.
And yes, you are right Gunter Schlierkamp is 6'0.5" as Arnold peak height was.
All other height are pretty correct. Mark says on 20/Jan/10
I'm fascinated as to how this topic got on evolution. So, I thought I'd pause to add that I, personally, don't believe in evolution ..as it's taught. Scientists sum up their beliefs, present it as fact, and mock anyone who disagrees. Please note; It's what they don't tell you, and that which they don't know that is the most telling. I'd give Arnie a strong 6'1, never any more. He has never looked like a 6'2 guy to me, ever. Danimal says on 20/Jan/10
BradMacKenzie says on 20/Jan/10
Metric everything you write seems to be nonsense rubbish! It could not be more clear that you have an agenda against Arnold claiming those false statements without any evidence to back it up!
Arnold's biggest chest measurement listed in his Encyclopedia of body building is 57 inches. There is not a single place where it says his chest was bigger than 57 inches, let alone 60 inches. Even at a height of nearly 6'2", 57 inches chest even back in the 70s was not a big deal. Half of chest measurement comes from back and latissum dorsi thickness since the tape is wrapped around the chest and back. If you ever had seen Arnold's back and lats, they were enormous! He had one of the thickest backs ever in body building. His side chest pose also is considered the best ever in bodybuilding because of how much depth and thickness his chest had. 57 inches considering all of these factors was modest at best! When chest is measured, it is fully expanded.
Lou Ferrigno at 6'4" - 6'4.5" had a measured 59 inches chest.
Louie's chest was 58" and Arnie's 57". Two of the best chests in the history of bodybuilding. No one has really surpassed either of those men's side chest to this day. Metric says on 20/Jan/10
Lucio - Well, maybe Arnold comes to Aarhus next time! Then I will be ready! Lol.
I will be on the roof of a nearby building armed with a telescopic lens and closing in on my target. Suddenly you hear the sound of whopping helicopter blades and both the FBI, CIA, NSA and danish PET intelligence comes thundering over the sky armed with rifles and loud speakers screaming at me that Iīm arrested and that my terrorist act is OVER!
Anyway thatīs what Guy believes. Lolz. Lucio says on 20/Jan/10
Anonymous says on 20/Jan/10
dont forget arni has 1.4 to 1.5 in dress shoes with obama plus big hair toethr than an easy 1 in advantage so 5 ft11.75 to 6 ft and with thucker he has boots
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Metric, stop with these "anonymous", so we all understand that it's you.
Although english is slightly different, the contents and empty statements are unmistakable! Lol. BradMacKenzie says on 20/Jan/10
I also forgot to mention, if someone had seen Arnold's picture of side chest pose with the top of his chest so parallel to the ground that he could balance a glass full of water at the top of his chest. That picture speaks a million words as to how huge Arnold's rib box and pectorals were.
There is no other body builder ever who has been able to replicate that. derek d says on 20/Jan/10
Thanks for the info Danimal. I found the video with Arnold and Rachel Mclish, he does indeed look at around 200 lbs. Still in great shape though.
Click Here Anonymous says on 20/Jan/10
dont forget arni has 1.4 to 1.5 in dress shoes with obama plus big hair toethr than an easy 1 in advantage so 5 ft11.75 to 6 ft and with thucker he has boots BradMacKenzie says on 20/Jan/10
Metric everything you write seems to be nonsense rubbish! It could not be more clear that you have an agenda against Arnold claiming those false statements without any evidence to back it up!
Arnold's biggest chest measurement listed in his Encyclopedia of body building is 57 inches. There is not a single place where it says his chest was bigger than 57 inches, let alone 60 inches. Even at a height of nearly 6'2", 57 inches chest even back in the 70s was not a big deal. Half of chest measurement comes from back and latissum dorsi thickness since the tape is wrapped around the chest and back. If you ever had seen Arnold's back and lats, they were enormous! He had one of the thickest backs ever in body building. His side chest pose also is considered the best ever in bodybuilding because of how much depth and thickness his chest had. 57 inches considering all of these factors was modest at best! When chest is measured, it is fully expanded.
Lou Ferrigno at 6'4" - 6'4.5" had a measured 59 inches chest.
Let alone the 70s, even in the 1950s all-natural and 100% pure Steve Reeves at 6'1" and 215 lbs (he never even could dream of steroids in those days) had a 50 inches chest measured and verified by other people while he was appearing in the Hercules movies.
Heck, I bodybuild mostly for fitness and fun and have a 46 inches chest. I am not a big guy by any stretch. It is hard for me to imagine Arnold's chest was only 11 inches bigger than mine when I weigh only 185 lbs at 6'1". REX says on 20/Jan/10
Why he is still listed 183cm? I see only 1 cm of difference between him and Obama in almost every photo, he is still 185cm and Obama is 186.
I've seen also a photo with him and Chris Tucker (who is also 185cm) and they are about the same height. I doubt he wear lifts.... Danimal says on 20/Jan/10
Ryan Deluca says on 19/Jan/10
Ronnie Coleman had a 58 Inch & he is 5'10 280 - 300 lbs contest condition, Chris Cormier said he has a 54 inch offseason chest, and he is like 250 lbs @ 5'10 contest... Im afraid arnold is all illusion/camera angles, yes he was big, but you are comparing him to much smaller guys, so ofcourse he will look bigger
Chris Cormier is 5'9"
Ronnie Coleman is 5'10"
Flex Wheeler is 5'9"
Kevin Levrone is 5'9"
Shawn Ray is 5'6"
Jay Cutler is 5'8"
Paul Dillet is 6'1"
Nasser El Sonbaty is 5'11"
Markus Ruhl is 5'10"
Gunter Shlierkamp is 6'0.5"
I can keep going. Metric says on 20/Jan/10
Lucio - Thanks for the pics. Arnold looks small. Especially the last one where you say his biceps are "toned"...erhh, well he doesnīt have ANY biceps in that pic!! Look at his arms they are completely gone there. He has a little biceps in Cph pics but look at his chest and shoulders...GONE! He trains like a p***y these days... Leung says on 20/Jan/10
Also don't bother mentioning Lesnar on this page because Lesnar has a body like a barrel. Leung says on 20/Jan/10
Guys stop comparing the body weight of modern day bodybuilders to Arnie. Arnie was only 28 when he first retired after the 1975 Olympia. The guys winning the Olympia titles of recent years such as Jay Cutler, Dexter Jackson, Ronnie Coleman were only hitting their peaks in their mid 30's, because with those extra years of training comes the muscle maturity and the extra density that you see in competition nowadays. Had Arnie continued training as a pro bodybuilder into his mid-to-late 30's like guys do these days then he would having easily been competing at a much heavier weight then 240lb. GUY says on 20/Jan/10
Metric it's funny how you lie about Arnold's measurements in order make the point Arnold is lying about his measurement. From all I see, Arnold's chest measurement was 57". These are more Strawman tactics. Do you realize you do this? Your arguments are all primarily tied to the Strawman. What does that say about you and your credibility? Do you even know what a Strawman argument is? Read this because this is what I've been reading continuously in your posts.
The term straw man has come to be used metaphorically to describe ideas or things that are meant to be torn apart. Many people who use the term do not realize that its roots are in the sport of rodeo.
In one example of metaphorical use, the straw man rhetorical technique is the practice of refuting weaker arguments than your opponents actually offer. The terminology is based on a combat metaphor--instead of fighting with your real opponent, you set up a straw man and proceed to knock it down. It is not a logical fallacy to disprove a weak argument; rather the fallacy is declaring one argument's conclusion wrong because of flaws in another argument.
One can set up a straw man in several different ways:
Present one of your opponent's weaker arguments, refute it, and pretend that you have refuted all of their arguments.
Present your opponent's argument in weakened form, refute it, and pretend that you have refuted the original.
Present a misrepresentation of your opponent's position, refute it, and pretend that you have refuted your opponent's actual position.
Present someone who defends a position poorly as the defender, refute their arguments, and pretend that you've refuted every argument for that position.
Invent a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs that are criticised, and pretend that that person represents a group that the speaker is critical of.
For example, one might argue "Charles Darwin believed in Lamarckian inheritance of acquired characteristics, which has now been discredited. Therefore, Darwinian evolution by natural selection did not occur." This is a fallacy because the Lamarckian ideas were only a small part of the overall theory; the fact that he was wrong about them does not affect the theory as a whole. Some logic textbooks define the straw man fallacy only as a misrepresented argument. It is now common, however, to use the term to refer to all three tactics. Straw man is also a type of media manipulation.
Often, the strawman set up is a weaker argument because it makes a wider or stronger claim. For example:
Fred: "Poverty is one factor that causes crime".
Alice: "You're wrong to claim that all poor people are criminals. My friend Jack is poor, but he is not a criminal!".
Another example.
Person1: I believe in Evolution
Person2: How can you believe in Evolution?! Has anyone ever seen an elephant evolve into a tree or a rock into a dragonfly?
This creates an absurd perception of what Evolution is in order to make it appear as unbelievable as possible. This is despite the fact it is a complete perversion of Evolution Theory.
Child: Can we get a puppy?
Parent: No
Child: But it'll protect our house
Parent: Still no
Child: How can you just throw away our safety like that!
There might be many reasons the parent doesn't want a dog, but the child uses one very charged example to elicit guilt.
Debating with you is pointless because you are such an idiot when it comes to understanding the finer points of discussion. Arnold WAS an ecto-mesomorph. Lesnar is probably a meso-endomorph. Arnold may have slightly higher bicep peaks but on a smaller bone structure. In UFC Lesnar needed specially made gloves because none were large enough to fit him. Do you think ectomorphs have that problem. Despite what you think, Lesnar just had a much more overall massive torso because he carried a lot more weight around the mid section and had much thicker legs. I wouldn't be surprised if Lesnars arms were close to Arnold's. I wouldn't be surprised if his chest was too if not larger. Arms and chest aren't the only determining factors in weight. They were Arnold's best features. There are guys 170 lbs with 17" arms. It's all proportion. Arnold's legs were not huge and neither was his back. Arnold had a 34" waist but Lesnar was probably 38+. And yet Lesnar walked around at what you say Arnold should have weighed. derek d says on 19/Jan/10
BWD says on 19/Jan/10
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derek d says on 17/Jan/10
BWD says on 17/Jan/10
Obama : 6'1"+
Arnold : Same or taller
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This picture isn't really good for judging their heights, Obama is a mile behind him. But seeing how he is looking down at Arnold and after viewing past photos that actually show them next to each other, its safe to say Obama is taller. Arnold in his prime was probably as tall as Obama though.
derek, I cannot find any pictures where Obama is looking down at Arnold, but I can find many where there are about the same height:
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Those are some good shots of them two. To be fair I might of exaggerated with the whole "looking down at Arnold", yet Obama still seems to have close to 0.5 to a full inch on him in most pictures with them. Notice how Arnold has a lot more hair than Obama. He is his height with his hair but you have to subtract that, which is almost an inch of hair. He looks shorter. And in regards to the first picture you posted on 17/Jan/10, notice how much bigger Arnold's head is. A good foot closer to the camera is major camera advantage. dmeyer says on 19/Jan/10
185 out of bed dmeyer says on 19/Jan/10
he can look 184 185 in thick shoes so near 183 barefeet Chaz says on 19/Jan/10
Arnold never clamed a 60inch chest, he clamed a 58inch expanded chest. Metric you no nothing.bodybuilders measure there chests with a Lat spread which can expand 6-12 inch we are not talking about a OD Wilson or Glenn Ross who had 60+ normal chest measurements,and Arnold had one of the widest Lat spreds of all time,must have had a good 8+inch of expantion. Ryan Deluca says on 19/Jan/10
Ronnie Coleman had a 58 Inch & he is 5'10 280 - 300 lbs contest condition, Chris Cormier said he has a 54 inch offseason chest, and he is like 250 lbs @ 5'10 contest... Im afraid arnold is all illusion/camera angles, yes he was big, but you are comparing him to much smaller guys, so ofcourse he will look bigger Danimal says on 19/Jan/10
derek d says on 19/Jan/10
Arnold's heaviest - 260 pounds
Arnold's lightest - 199 pounds
Something I've been searching on the internet for a while, videos/pictures of Arnold at only 199 lbs?? I once saw an older workout video of Arnold at around 200 lbs it looked like, I hardly could recognize him at first.
Arnold began running in the late 70's. There are some pics on the net of him in full stride. He was said to have been down to 199 pounds at that point. So yeah, the big man lost A LOT of weight. He DID do a workout video with Rachel McLish where he weighed around 200 pounds a well. Lucio says on 19/Jan/10
Look here Arnold at the gym in Copenhagen.
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Big Arnie to grappling with the curling machine, looks with which grit he tackles this series for the biceps!
He seems to have returned Arnold of the old days!
And look which biceps, can still be seen.
Other that cardio-fitness, Metric.
And look on this picture:
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chest well to the fore and also the arms appear to be sufficiently toned and Metric, no lift, only flat sailing shoes!
Why didn't you go find your friend Arnold when he was in Copenhagen?
It was a unique opportunity to see as he is tall. Lol. Metric says on 19/Jan/10
Guy - Lesnar is not much more massive than Arnold. The guy (Arn) was supposed to have a 60 inch chest and 22 inch biceps. Do you realize how these measurements look like for real??? Even the largest and strongest men in the world at 6-7 350-400 lbs donīt normally beat a 60 inch chest. Arnold is and was a lying mofo. Lied about measurements, height and who knows what else???
Oh yeah, donīt forget the waterbuckets Arn. Thatīs how you got your muscles (by your own words). Lolz BWD says on 19/Jan/10
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derek d says on 17/Jan/10
BWD says on 17/Jan/10
Obama : 6'1"+
Arnold : Same or taller
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This picture isn't really good for judging their heights, Obama is a mile behind him. But seeing how he is looking down at Arnold and after viewing past photos that actually show them next to each other, its safe to say Obama is taller. Arnold in his prime was probably as tall as Obama though.
derek, I cannot find any pictures where Obama is looking down at Arnold, but I can find many where there are about the same height:
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Click Here derek d says on 19/Jan/10
Arnold's heaviest - 260 pounds
Arnold's lightest - 199 pounds
Something I've been searching on the internet for a while, videos/pictures of Arnold at only 199 lbs?? I once saw an older workout video of Arnold at around 200 lbs it looked like, I hardly could recognize him at first. GUY says on 18/Jan/10
Danimal says on 18/Jan/10
Guy says on 17/Jan/10
Metric argues Arnold must weigh 289-290 lbs at his claimed height. Compare Arnold to Brock Lesnar who is probably about an inch taller and 265 lbs at the weigh in at UFC. Brock might very well have gone back up to 280 the next day. Lesnar is impossibly thick from head to toe with a huge torso to leg ratio. Although Lesnar might lack the refinement that Arnold did, there is no question his frame and overall size is much more massive. And yet he weighs what metric claims Arnold must have weighed.
Brock is down to 220 pounds since his illness. There are a TON of articles on the net about this.
Arnold's heaviest - 260 pounds
Arnold's lightest - 199 pounds
Your point? I wasn't talking about Lesnar right now this second. In his last two fights before his illness, he came in at 265 for the weigh in. Lesnar could have put 10-15 pounds on by the fight time time the next day. Even GSP regularly fights at 180-185. The point was how dumb it was arguing Arnold could not have been 6'1 1/2" because he should have weighed 280-290. Unlike today's pro bodybuilders, Arnold was an iron ager and it was about aesthetics. Todays pros are oversized everywhere despite lack of symetry and proportion. It's become more about absolute mass. Arnold lacked the distended gut from HGH. Today's pros compensate by becoming oversized everywhere else and so resemble bowling balls. That photo of Cutler on his page you might be forgiven to mistake him for a very obese man. Arnold never gave that impression. LSU ALum says on 18/Jan/10
It appears some on this sites only reason for living is to convince others that Arnold is a short man.Well if it makes you feel more like a man,have at it.Any reasonable person knows that Arnold was/is a tall man,6'1.5",6'2".prime.All you little people keep posting if it makes you feel more secure. BWD says on 18/Jan/10
derek d says on 17/Jan/10
BWD says on 17/Jan/10
Obama : 6'1"+
Arnold : Same or taller
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This picture isn't really good for judging their heights, Obama is a mile behind him. But seeing how he is looking down at Arnold and after viewing past photos that actually show them next to each other, its safe to say Obama is taller. Arnold in his prime was probably as tall as Obama though.
A mile behind him? The picture looks like it was taken in dim lighting, which suggests a wide open f-stop of 2.8 or lower, although there is not a huge amount of bokeh on the door in the background, so it could even be an f-stop approaching f/4 or so (I can't imagine anything above f/5.6 here). Obama would have to be standing close to Arnold; if Obama was farther away from Arnold, his appearance would be blurred in comparison, as he would be out of the depth of field for this shot. Although there is no EXIF data in the file, the interior shot with dim lighting suggests a larger aperture. Obama looks to be standing within a foot of Arnold, so a faily accurate height comparison can be made. They appear very close in height here, with Obama's eyebrows being perhaps a 1/2 inch above Arnold's at the most. Heightcritique says on 18/Jan/10
Danimal says on 18/Jan/10
Heightcritique says on 17/Jan/10
"Jay Leno is 5'11" and about 2" shorter than Governator..."
You're delusional.
Danimal: Anybody who argues a 5'11" position without proof and especially with malice (i.e. defamation) harbors ill-intent if not psychotic. A healthy objective discussion is based on evidence or tangible facts not on empty and irrational statements.
As far as your insult is concern (dilusional?), and as far as I know, dilusional is a false belief strongly and irrationally held in spite of invalidating evidence; and in this case it appears to be deluded on jealously and hate.
Arnold was 6'2" in his prime, and now due to age and spinal compression 6'1". If that awakes psychotic irrationality, then as far as know it should not be disregarded with a grain of salt. The State of California contributes about 12% of the US GDP, and it can feed the whole world for a year with its economy, and its Governor is of extreme importance not only to Americans but to other leaders in the international community. Only a psycho does not care or observes this fact... Metric says on 18/Jan/10
Heightcritique - You are right!! Right now Iīm sh***ing my pants waiting for the PET (danish intelligence service) to bust down my door any second because of the things I write about Arnold here!
Erhh, well NOT...
BTW Iīm NOT every "anonymous". Lucio also made the mistake of thinking I was the "anonymous" claiming 5-10 and 5-11 in shoes. Look at the posts. My english is not that bad. It should be quite easy for you to distinguish my posts from the others.
PS. Heightcritique nobody will listen to you anymore after that crazy post about the FBI. Youīre tripping, man.
On a final note: I think Arnolds lightest bodyweight is actually right now today. When he was in Copenhagen he looked THIN. I doubt he was much over 185-190 lbs at the time? He doesnīt look like he has trained for a very long time. Itīs funny because danish newspapers posted an article about him from a fashionable gym in Copenhagen but apparently he mostly does cardio these days.
I also saw him on 60 minutes yesterday and he was soo thin. His chest, biceps everything was gone. The suit almost kinda hang on him. Pretty sad. Also he looked very old and tired. He tried to be the usual charming Arnie but it didnīt really work. His charisma was also gone somehow. It was the show about the delta smelt if anyone else saw it? ī
He sure has aged tremendously just the last 2-3 yrs. Danimal says on 18/Jan/10
Guy says on 17/Jan/10
Metric argues Arnold must weigh 289-290 lbs at his claimed height. Compare Arnold to Brock Lesnar who is probably about an inch taller and 265 lbs at the weigh in at UFC. Brock might very well have gone back up to 280 the next day. Lesnar is impossibly thick from head to toe with a huge torso to leg ratio. Although Lesnar might lack the refinement that Arnold did, there is no question his frame and overall size is much more massive. And yet he weighs what metric claims Arnold must have weighed.
Brock is down to 220 pounds since his illness. There are a TON of articles on the net about this.
Arnold's heaviest - 260 pounds
Arnold's lightest - 199 pounds Danimal says on 18/Jan/10
Heightcritique says on 17/Jan/10
Jay Leno is 5'11" and about 2" shorter than Governator Click Here which proves that Arnold is still 6'1 3/8" as he claims, and factual proof that he has lost less than an inch from his 6' 1 3/8" peak height. Claiming that Arnold is 5'11" is a insane height estimate not only because there is no proof, but because it simply shows irrational, neurotic, and unstable psychotic behavior
a red flag worthy of psychological profiling when it comes to prevent potential threats which I am sure the federal agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA) in the US are tracking since Arnold is not only an important politician in the US as 'Governator of Kalifornia' but also a member of the Kennedy clan as well. I am sure all these strange 'anonymous' posts are being tracked as well...strangely all claiming the same psychotic low height estimate and the same underlying tone of hate and mock...
You're delusional. Brian says on 17/Jan/10
Anonymous says on 16/Jan/10
Guy - That is simply NOT true! There is a 4-8 midget at my gym and he weighs 100 lbs (told me so himself). He is EXACTLY the same size as me musclewise (proportionally speaking) and his strength is like mine (He is one strong little mofo). Still I weigh more than DOUBLE his weight at 210 lbs/5-11. According to your theory I should be only 170 lbs. WRONG. Height and weight is logarithmical NOT linear. Thatīs why Arnolds weight so RUDELY exposes his height lie. Because his numbers just donīt make any sense. Arnold forgot to think about this. He thought we were stupid :)
You can compare the builds of you and someone who is x number of inches shorter and x number of pounds lighter than you, or you can view the empirical truth:
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This is a body mass index calculator administered by the National Institute of Health. Now, Metric, argues that a 6'0" individual at 235 lbs would need to be about 50 lbs heavier at 6'1.5" to look around the same size. However, a 6'1.5" guy would actually only need to be 10 lbs heavier than a 6'0" 235 lb guy to maintain the same BMI. A 285 lb 6'1.5" guy would have a BMI of 5.2 points greater, which is an astounding difference, considering that a BMI boost that great could make the difference between normal, healthy weight and full-on obesity.
Also, the difference a 6'1.5" 235 lb Arnold would only need to way 9 pounds more than a 6'0" man of the same BMI. Honestly, you couldn't notice a difference of 10 pounds or less for a body builder to determine a "height lie" as Metric suggests. And even if 6'1.5" and 235 lbs is on the light side for a body builder, that would make perfect sense, since Arnold is a known ectomorph.
Other than the fact that weight doesn't pose a problem for a 187 cm peak Arnold, the most important thing to take away from this is that the irony is palpable that Metric accused someone else's numbers as not making any sense. Heightcritique says on 17/Jan/10
Jay Leno is 5'11" and about 2" shorter than Governator Click Here which proves that Arnold is still 6'1 3/8" as he claims, and factual proof that he has lost less than an inch from his 6' 1 3/8" peak height. Claiming that Arnold is 5'11" is a insane height estimate not only because there is no proof, but because it simply shows irrational, neurotic, and unstable psychotic behavior
a red flag worthy of psychological profiling when it comes to prevent potential threats which I am sure the federal agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA) in the US are tracking since Arnold is not only an important politician in the US as 'Governator of Kalifornia' but also a member of the Kennedy clan as well. I am sure all these strange 'anonymous' posts are being tracked as well...strangely all claiming the same psychotic low height estimate and the same underlying tone of hate and mock...
In perspective, A 5'11" man in the US and most of Europe is of average height. In Denmark, for example, where the average height of a male is 61, a man of 511 will look short and develop a napoleon complex and anger towards taller individuals if he does not have any self-esteem. Governator next to other important politicians (Obama, Clinton, Blair, Bush, etc.) looks a solid 6'1" nowadays, as the vast evidence posted hereunder shows. Lucio says on 17/Jan/10
Well, we learn that the real Metric's height is not 5'11", but 5'10", or rather, 5'11" with shoes.
As a logical consequence, one can not help but to downgrade the Arnold's peak height from 6'0" to 5'10" - 6'0" Max. Lol. I don\'t promise says on 17/Jan/10
I met him in 1992 at the MTV Movie Awards in Burbank and he was much taller than me(5 11).I'd say he was 6'2" then, maybe 6'1". RisingForce says on 17/Jan/10
6'1.75" peak and 6'0.5" is spot on. Look at him with James Cameron today. Guy says on 17/Jan/10
Metric, what does using an extremely exaggerated example prove. 4'8" is very, very short so to say he has exactly the same proportions and build as you is an opinion. At that height, his bones are going to be shorter and less massive so a direct comparison to someone that short is going to be inaccurate and skewed. But if he equals you in strength and suprises, he might be more muscular. But I guess seeking out the legit midget at your gym to disprove a theory is to you a cunning tactic. Did you see me compare Arnold's height and weight to a midget? I was comparing Arnold to himself. Comparing two people of extreme height difference is a different story than just comparing a person to themself. If you want to say that 1 1/2" extra on Arnold means he should have been 50 pounds heavier than you really are doing what you do best. Make excuses.
Here's a height and weight chart. I would believe Arnold would have been in the large frame category.
Height & Weight Table For Men2
HeightFeet Inches
Small Frame
Medium Frame
Large Frame
5' 2" 128-134 131-141 138-150
5' 3" 130-136 133-143 140-153
5'' 4" 132-138 135-145 142-156
5' 5" 134-140 137-148 144-160
5' 6" 136-142 139-151 146-164
5' 7" 138-145 142-154 149-168
5' 8" 140-148 145-157 152-172
5' 9" 142-151 148-160 155-176
5' 10" 144-154 151-163 158-180
5' 11" 146-157 154-166 161-184
6' 0" 149-160 157-170 164-188
6' 1" 152-164 160-174 168-192
6' 2" 155-168 164-178 172-197
6' 3" 158-172 167-182 176-202
6' 4" 162-176 171-187 181-207
Weights at ages 25-59 based on lowest mortality. Weight in pounds according to frame (in indoor clothing weighing 5 lbs.; shoes with 1" heels)
Now with large amount of musculature, maybe it's not perfectly accurate, but it's good for a rough guide. But you making claims that Arnold is fine proportionately at 6' and 235 lbs contest, but must weigh 280-290 lbs at 6'1 1/2" is retarted. I promise says on 17/Jan/10
I met him in 1992 at the MTV Movie Awards in Burbank and he was much shorter than me (6 1.5). I'd say he was 5'11" then, maybe 5'10". derek d says on 17/Jan/10
BWD says on 17/Jan/10
Obama : 6'1"+
Arnold : Same or taller
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This picture isn't really good for judging their heights, Obama is a mile behind him. But seeing how he is looking down at Arnold and after viewing past photos that actually show them next to each other, its safe to say Obama is taller. Arnold in his prime was probably as tall as Obama though. Lucio says on 17/Jan/10
The pre-contest Arnold weight and off-season is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT for a physical structure such as his.
Arnold when he was competed had into a higher gear than any other bodybuilders of his era, and especially and emphasize ESPECIALLY on those of today: THE ARMONY OF PROPORTIONS!
Today bodybuilders however, ignored this fundamental aspect in their preparation and they pay special attention to pure muscle mass to detriment of proportions and lines.
This one may be well to note in the abnormal development of their thighs and they look like caricatures of themselves.
Of course, Arnold would have weighed more than his 106.5 kg in competition, but would have been fat and out of proportion!
In Pumping Iron Arnold said: ".. a bodybuilder is like a sculptor, he shapes his body like a sculptor shapes the clay so that on completion, everything is proportionate ...".
And at Mr.Olympia 1975, for me, he has achieved the best balance between muscle mass, definition and proportion.
Indeed in the Olympia 1974 he was bigger but less defined, nell'Olympia 1980 he was more skinny but had lost some mass.
For its time, just another bodybuilder was proportioned as Arnold, these was Steve Reevs. Anonymous says on 17/Jan/10
i measure im 5'10 tall, not 5'11 was in shoes and forgot to -1 inch off.anyways my brother is 6'3 1/2 measure take off his shoes , barefooted -1/2 inch. anyways arnold looks arnold 5-10-6'0 max peak, next to 6'3-6'4 very tall guys he close as me in height.... height lifters-shoes or boots ....makes him taller. and a shorter stocky man can look more stocky and mass in build than a very tall man 6'3-6'4 if their just tall and lacky and slim.i seen this at the gym lots of guys are 6' and under and more mass and thicker....the natural way i mean .... Guy says on 17/Jan/10
Metric argues Arnold must weigh 289-290 lbs at his claimed height. Compare Arnold to Brock Lesnar who is probably about an inch taller and 265 lbs at the weigh in at UFC. Brock might very well have gone back up to 280 the next day. Lesnar is impossibly thick from head to toe with a huge torso to leg ratio. Although Lesnar might lack the refinement that Arnold did, there is no question his frame and overall size is much more massive. And yet he weighs what metric claims Arnold must have weighed. BWD says on 17/Jan/10
Obama : 6'1"+
Arnold : Same or taller
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if arnold, jay leno, and other people shreak before the age of 70, i guess all be 5'4 at 50 yrs old im 5'11 know. Anonymous says on 16/Jan/10
Guy - That is simply NOT true! There is a 4-8 midget at my gym and he weighs 100 lbs (told me so himself). He is EXACTLY the same size as me musclewise (proportionally speaking) and his strength is like mine (He is one strong little mofo). Still I weigh more than DOUBLE his weight at 210 lbs/5-11. According to your theory I should be only 170 lbs. WRONG. Height and weight is logarithmical NOT linear. Thatīs why Arnolds weight so RUDELY exposes his height lie. Because his numbers just donīt make any sense. Arnold forgot to think about this. He thought we were stupid :) Guy says on 16/Jan/10
I agree with Brian about the fact Metric is arguing a measley 1 1/2 inches. Metric seems to think it's OK for Arnold to be 6' and 235 lbs but 6'1 1/2" and 235 lbs is outrageous. There's roughly 5 lbs gained per extra inch of height. So Arnold would weigh about 7 1/2 lbs less if he was 6'. The difference is not that much but as usual Metric blows everything way out of proportion. Arnold would look downright skinny today compared to Coleman, Yates or Cutler. Arnold had huge arms and chest but a 34" waist. I doubt Coleman had a 34" waist. Coleman's legs were about twice the thickness of Arnold's and overall looked bloated. Anonymous says on 16/Jan/10
Good point Guy, and dont forget Arnold had a 31 inch waist when competing 31! and not competing 32 to 33. Don says on 16/Jan/10
I read sumwhere that the Terminator(played by arnie)is 6'2" and also during the filming of Predator Arnie was supposely 6'2"and they had to find someone taller and bigger than him to play the Predator.He might have a lost a good 2 inches now. Chaz says on 16/Jan/10
Jon Pal Sigmarson was 310lbs in 1987 when he beat capes and Kaz in Pure Strenth contest,that was the biggest he was,4 months after when in won the Mr Iceland contest he was only 244lbs all 6'3.25''of him. you do not wont to take any notice of all these Bodybulides claming 300+lbs in contest shape with 22'' arms thats what they are bulked up takeing HGH and 5 grams of Test a week not riped on stage, Guy says on 16/Jan/10
Metric says on 14/Jan/10
Anonymous says on 13/Jan/10
Go to 27 March 2008 picture on the Jeff Bridges page. he looks about 5'9! he looks shorter than his 5'10'' brother! Jeff was probably 5'11 / 11.5 peak, now about 5'10 max! the picture is shocking....the plot thickens!
Interesting pic. If Bridges was only 5-11 Arnold has never been more than 5-10! I find this unlikely for some reason. HOWEVER it certainly would explain how he was able to carrt monstrous mass but still weigh "only" a "measely" 235 lbs. And that at "6-2"??? I mean WTF??? Lol.
I see guys in my gym 6-2 all the time weighing 230-240 lbs and they look NOWHERE near as big as Arnold did. Go figure. It doesnīt take a rocket scientist. A legit 6-1 to 6-2 man with Arnolds body would be 280-290 lbs.
Thanks to anonymous for an interesting post.
Arnold was 235-240 lbs CONTEST weight. How many guys at your gym are walking around contest weight. Arnold was more 260 lbs pre-contest. He was also ecto-mesomorph which meant he had a smaller bone structure. Someone might not look as big but weighs a lot while another might be very muscular but weigh not as much. Arnold had very long legs and a short torso. You again are not basing your point on any quatitative basis but your own personal opinion. It's your opinion Arnold couldn't weigh that little at that height. That's not proof. Brian says on 16/Jan/10
Metric says on 13/Jan/10
Guy - Ignoring every other film Arnold made??? Hardly. I was being generous by mentioning "Stay Hungry" only. Arnold has made plenty of flicks where he looks even shorter than in that one. Take "Running Man" where he consistantly looks 5-10 to 5-11 next to 6-4 Yaphet Kotto. Take "Commando" where he looks 5-11.5 next to 6-3 James Olson. Take "6th Day" where looks 5-10 most of the time. He is downright SHORT in that movie. EVERYONE in the male cast are taller. Even the midget Robert Duvall looks as tall as Arnold in a few scenes. The list goes on...
The ground looks straight to me, and if it was sloping it doesn't look like it could be more than a fraction of an inch, but here's the thing: Arnold is contracting his abdominal muscles which detracts from posture, meaning that any infinitesimal disparity between the ground Arnold is standing on and the ground Park is standing on would easily be eliminated. But now, all of a sudden, you're saying that Draper is actually standing in back of everyone else. First of all, they are clearly in a bodybuilding show, meaning that everyone would be standing side-by-side. What, is Draper purposely standing in the background to make at that time a relatively unkown Arnold seem taller?Second of all, the fact that Arnold's feet extend maybe half an inch closer to the edge than Draper's would probably mean that he had longer feet, which would make sense, since, I don't know, he was actually measured 4cm taller than Draper. Thirdly, like Guy said, you can't "give" someone a height other than what they were confirmed at like you did when you just decided to downgrade Draper by an inch.
Also, Metric, if you're relying on photos like this Click Here (Look at the slope of the line in the background to see how terrible the perspective is) to support your claims, how can you say that the Park/Draper photo is untrustworthy?
Metric says on 14/Jan/10
HOWEVER it certainly would explain how he was able to carrt monstrous mass but still weigh "only" a "measely" 235 lbs. And that at "6-2"??? I mean WTF??? Lol.
I see guys in my gym 6-2 all the time weighing 230-240 lbs and they look NOWHERE near as big as Arnold did. Go figure. It doesnīt take a rocket scientist. A legit 6-1 to 6-2 man with Arnolds body would be 280-290 lbs.
Your opposition is arguing that Arnold was roughly 6'1.5" peak. You are arguing that Arnold was 6'0" peak. So, if a 6'0" man 230-240 lbs would have the same proportions as a 6'1.5" man 280-290 lbs, that would mean that one would need to gain about 34 pounds per extra inch to maintain their BMI, whereas it is in actually 7 pounds. The inaccuracy speaks for itself. My point is, your numbers aren't making sense. 6'1.5" and 235 pounds look perfectly reasonable for a peak Arnold. And I honestly can't even imagine what argument you'll come up with next. Anonymous says on 15/Jan/10
arnold looks short in movies next to 6'3=6'4 guys, he is 5'10-6'0 max at peak.
he wears boots in almost all his movies. camera angles , stand on box etc.just to say if he was 6'1 or 6'2 then he would be almost 6'3 range in regular shoes, he towered over by very tall guys though. watch the movie TWINS WITH DEVITO AND ARNOLD IN THE BATHROOM SCENE HE LOOKS ONLY 5'10-6'0 MAX NEXT TO DEVITO.STANDING UP TO HIM, AND DEVITO'S HEIGHT 5'2-?ARNOLD IS SHORT JUST LIKE ME AT 5'11 MY PEAK HEIGHT. HE LOOKS THE SAME HT AS ME STANDING NEXT TO MY BROTHER WHO IS 6'4 PEAK RIGHT KNOW.AND TOWERS OVER ME .... Lucio says on 15/Jan/10
Metric says on 13/Jan/10
"Ground is obviously sloping upwards in Arnolds favor..." ???
"Drapers feet that he is FAR behind Arnold on the posing platform thus a FARTHER distance from the camera than Arnold..." ???
Seriously Metric, but do you really believe in what you say?
First picture taken from the site "www.arnoldheight.com" is perfectly horizontal and doesn't rotated and it can be inferred from the fact that the edge of the platform on which are the contestants is parallel throughout its length to the frame of the photo.
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The second photo Click Here is taken from the site "www.schwarzenegger.it" is the same as before with the only difference that is rotated in favor of Arnold, and this is obviously due to an insertion error and can be seen by anyone (see the photo frame with the edge platform).
Finally, Draper is not a step back to Arnold, but approximately 2-3 cm from the platform edge (zoom to enlarge).
The Draper's arm in front of that's Arnold was simply due to a rotation Draper's torso for not hitting the arm of Arnold.
This picture weighs as a rock on the absurd Metric's 6'0" prime for Arnold.
Nothing to do again this time.
Try again, "Anonymous". Danimal says on 15/Jan/10
Chaz says on 15/Jan/10
Anonymous,no one in contest shape weighed 280-290lbs in 1975,and in the off season in the NABBA days he was 260lbs and 253lbs at the 1969 Universe, even Lou Ferrigno at 6'4.5''was only 268lbs at the 1975 Olympia most of the guys at the time riped was under 210lbs Mentzer was only 209lbs at the 1979 Olympia and Zane who won it was only 187lbs,
Arnold was only 225 pounds for the 1975 Mr. Olympia. Chaz says on 15/Jan/10
Anonymous,no one in contest shape weighed 280-290lbs in 1975,and in the off season in the NABBA days he was 260lbs and 253lbs at the 1969 Universe, even Lou Ferrigno at 6'4.5''was only 268lbs at the 1975 Olympia most of the guys at the time riped was under 210lbs Mentzer was only 209lbs at the 1979 Olympia and Zane who won it was only 187lbs, lsu alum says on 14/Jan/10
Just finished watching Predator.Arnold was taller than 6'2"listed Carl Weathers.Arnold could very well have been 6'2" in his prime. Metric says on 14/Jan/10
Anonymous says on 13/Jan/10
Go to 27 March 2008 picture on the Jeff Bridges page. he looks about 5'9! he looks shorter than his 5'10'' brother! Jeff was probably 5'11 / 11.5 peak, now about 5'10 max! the picture is shocking....the plot thickens!
Interesting pic. If Bridges was only 5-11 Arnold has never been more than 5-10! I find this unlikely for some reason. HOWEVER it certainly would explain how he was able to carrt monstrous mass but still weigh "only" a "measely" 235 lbs. And that at "6-2"??? I mean WTF??? Lol.
I see guys in my gym 6-2 all the time weighing 230-240 lbs and they look NOWHERE near as big as Arnold did. Go figure. It doesnīt take a rocket scientist. A legit 6-1 to 6-2 man with Arnolds body would be 280-290 lbs.
Thanks to anonymous for an interesting post. Guy says on 14/Jan/10
Metric says on 13/Jan/10
Ok, let me comment on the Draper/Arnold pic ONCE AND FOR ALL: The ground is obviously sloping upwards in Arnolds favor. This can be clearly seen in the pic. Furthermore you can see by looking at Drapers feet that he is FAR behind Arnold on the posing platform thus a FARTHER distance from the camera than Arnold. This can also be seen by how his arm that is way BEHIND Arnolds arm. Safe to assume that if Draper stepped to the front like Arnold and we level the ground (rotate it x number of degrees to flat) the difference between Draper and Arnold will be FAR less if anything at all!?? Also Drapers billed 6-0 doesnīt matter s**t to me! He was a Weider posterboy and as a consequence 99% suspectible to be lying about his peak height. I give 5-11 for Draper.
OK Metric GOD. You "give" Draper 5'11". Whatever you say GOD. It's the same with Lynn and Ali that you can just alter whoever's height because you say so. If Weider was such a crook he's more honest than you. You are someone who relies on unsubstantiated conpsiracy theories made up by you to appease your deluded theories. It's your wildcard you use. You think Weider is a lyer as you've said many times, so that gives you the wildcard to reinterpret the whole universe. According to you bodybuilders all lie about their height, so that gives you the justification to make "what's right" whatever suits your agenda. That's another deviant tactic. You can do the same thing with Hollywood actors. They ALL lie about their heights so you can just adjust whatever number suits you for the moment. Class act.
Draper is far behind Arnold by....an inch? That's what it looks like according to their feet. If you think Draper will gain 2 inches by standing right next to Arnold you need to cut back the dose. That's also the fact Arnold is using an ab curl and therefore not standing as straight. There is also no real slope or at least one that would cause such a skew in comparison 3 feet away. Correcting for it makes no real difference as it's just an excuse. As much an excuse as dropping Draper down to 5'11". They're all just excuses. Guy says on 14/Jan/10
Metric says on 13/Jan/10
Guy - Ignoring every other film Arnold made??? Hardly. I was being generous by mentioning "Stay Hungry" only. Arnold has made plenty of flicks where he looks even shorter than in that one. Take "Running Man" where he consistantly looks 5-10 to 5-11 next to 6-4 Yaphet Kotto. Take "Commando" where he looks 5-11.5 next to 6-3 James Olson. Take "6th Day" where looks 5-10 most of the time. He is downright SHORT in that movie. EVERYONE in the male cast are taller. Even the midget Robert Duvall looks as tall as Arnold in a few scenes. The list goes on...
You are so predictable it makes me laugh. At least you are somewhat engaging in something of a debate. But like I said last time, without officiation like a referee, boneheads will bring up the same dead issues over and over. Lucio has shown quite clearly that you are just wrong with stay hungry. He even provided photos to back himself up unlike you. That issue is over and yet you keep beating that dead dog like nothing ever happened.
Commando and James Olson? Another dead issue that has been disected and refuted long ago. You aren't some guy who comes on a couple times a month. You are here everyday and yet presume to act like your little pet theories have never been disproven. In the scene where Arnold and Olson are walking (the part you use as evidence), Arnold is walking with Olson at the bottom end of a slope. Like I've said before, you use evidence that seems to support your claim only when flaws and imperfections allow it. If you don't watch that scene and admit that then you really are a fool.
I don't own 6th day, but when I've seen it I never got the impression you got. Arnold 5 inches shorter than 6'3" Michael Rappaport is a total laugh. He looked most 2 inches shorter. You are flat up making stuff up due to your hatred of Arnold, or you really are delusional. I don't own either 6th Day or Running man. I do remember a scene from running man where Arnold really wasn't towered by 6'5" Sven Ole Thorsen. How about you provide some vid caps or stills from those films for us rational people to take a look at. You think the midget Robert Duvall looks as tall as Arnold and those scenes, don't just say it but prove it. Considering the fact you allowed Arnold to be shaved off several inches while walking at the bottom of a slope, your reasoning will be more bull. Anonymous says on 13/Jan/10
Go to 27 March 2008 picture on the Jeff Bridges page. he looks about 5'9! he looks shorter than his 5'10'' brother! Jeff was probably 5'11 / 11.5 peak, now about 5'10 max! the picture is shocking....the plot thickens! Metric says on 13/Jan/10
Guy - Ignoring every other film Arnold made??? Hardly. I was being generous by mentioning "Stay Hungry" only. Arnold has made plenty of flicks where he looks even shorter than in that one. Take "Running Man" where he consistantly looks 5-10 to 5-11 next to 6-4 Yaphet Kotto. Take "Commando" where he looks 5-11.5 next to 6-3 James Olson. Take "6th Day" where looks 5-10 most of the time. He is downright SHORT in that movie. EVERYONE in the male cast are taller. Even the midget Robert Duvall looks as tall as Arnold in a few scenes. The list goes on... Metric says on 13/Jan/10
Ok, let me comment on the Draper/Arnold pic ONCE AND FOR ALL: The ground is obviously sloping upwards in Arnolds favor. This can be clearly seen in the pic. Furthermore you can see by looking at Drapers feet that he is FAR behind Arnold on the posing platform thus a FARTHER distance from the camera than Arnold. This can also be seen by how his arm that is way BEHIND Arnolds arm. Safe to assume that if Draper stepped to the front like Arnold and we level the ground (rotate it x number of degrees to flat) the difference between Draper and Arnold will be FAR less if anything at all!?? Also Drapers billed 6-0 doesnīt matter s**t to me! He was a Weider posterboy and as a consequence 99% suspectible to be lying about his peak height. I give 5-11 for Draper. Lucio says on 13/Jan/10
Metric says on 11/Jan/10
Arnolds current height is what is interesting. His prime height was pretty well documented in "Stay Hungry" where he CONTINOUSLY looked 1 inch shorter than legit 6-1 Jeff Bridges. 6-0 prime.
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Sure Metric, Bridges looks 2 inches MINIMUM taller than Arnold barefoot here. Lol.
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The usual Metric's empty chatter with no touch with reality.
Go ahead so if you want Metric, but fewer and fewer people will take you seriously. Guy says on 13/Jan/10
joshwefref says on 11/Jan/10
This is Arnold with Michael Todd (unfortunately don't know what kind of shoes they are wearing): Click Here
and me with Michael Todd: Click Here
notice he isn't standing quite as straight as I am. I have no reason to lie about my height, and I'm 5'11 and 1/4 (barefoot/with socks on). Looking at both pics and assuming regular footwear is worn I think Arnold must be under 6'0... opinions?
For what it's worth, this guy isn't going to throw the operation completely upside down on his own. There are absolute scores of other individuals who line Arnie up well with near 6'2" prime and 6'-6'1" today. It's basically a Mexican stand-off of evidence. The difference is shear numbers. There are far, far too many other pieces of evidence for this to be taken as anything but a curiousity as Arnold's stats are too well established.
On a side note, Michael Todd lists himself as 192cm (6'3 1/2") on his Myspace page. That would easily explain the photo with Arnold, as Arnold looks about 2 inches shorter. As with the photo with you, he looks a good 2 inches taller by first impression. He could conceivibly gain another 2 inches by straightening out his neck and standing straight like you there. You'd be surprised how much height you can lose with bad posture. Guy says on 12/Jan/10
Metric says on 11/Jan/10
Arnolds current height is what is interesting. His prime height was pretty well documented in "Stay Hungry" where he CONTINOUSLY looked 1 inch shorter than legit 6-1 Jeff Bridges. 6-0 prime.
Today however?? Nothing over 5-11 thatīs for sure. My honest guess would be 5-11 flat (MAX) on a good day. But I wouldnīt be at all surprised if he is only 5-10.75". The pics with Branson showed something similar. Aww, Arnie. How low did thou go?? Lol.
And you are how tall? 5'11" according to you. It must give your warped ego joy to believe you are actually 1/4 inch taller than Arnold. That's what it's all about. You and Ali have the same motivations. End of story.
Stay Hungry?!? When have you ever proven anything with that? That's the thing, you come on here with the same stupid evidence that has been refuted time and time again. That's the thing with unofficiated debates in that the same fools spout the same garbage time and time again even though it's shown they're wrong. Metric likes to ignore every other film Arnold's made and only devotes his effort on a film where Arnold was barefoot in most of it. The only way Metric feels confident is comparing a film where Arnold is barefoot and Jeff Bridges is in shoes most of the time. Why do you think anyone here buys these tactics. AND WHAT ABOUT THE PHOTO WITH DAVE DRAPER AND REG PARK! No comment there from Metric. He doesn't want anything to spoil his fantasy world of looking eye to eye with Arnold. What a dream! Vladimir says on 12/Jan/10
Click Here interesting photo..Arnold looks minimum 6'1"
Arnold was 187cm at his peak, 182-3cm today ( can still looks 185 in some photos ) Brian says on 12/Jan/10
Metric, Bridges was in shoes in Stay Hungry, which would have brought him up to 6'2", so a bit taller than a prime Arnold barefoot. Also, Arnold looks taller than Branson in all those photos, so why reference those? And, really hate to sound like a broken record here, but if Arnold was 6'0" prime, the Park/Draper photo shouldn't exist.
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In the middle is the height that Metric claims Arnold was in his prime (183cm). On the left is the height Arnold actually stood in his prime (187cm). Unless you can explain the photo, your "Arnold was 6'0" prime" argument doesn't seem worth considering.
I also don't see Arnold as having lost more than 2 inches since his prime. I believe that people think that because he has lost a lot of muscle mass with old age, making him look smaller/more shriveled in general. I've concluded about 184cm for him now, for he just edges out a strong 6' Tony Blair.
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Considering that both Arnold and Blair appear close to the camera, are wearing similar footwear, and are about on the same plain, I would say Arnold is hovering just above the 6'0" mark now. Probably a bit below 6'.5"-6'1" as Rising argues, but in all fairness Rising isn't trying to inflate Arnie's height as burby put it. He's basing his estimation on a wealth of photos that he showed a few days ago.
That's my opinion. Vegas says on 12/Jan/10
arnold lost height due to heart surgery and smoking, you cannot be serious joshwefref says on 11/Jan/10
This is Arnold with Michael Todd (unfortunately don't know what kind of shoes they are wearing): Click Here
and me with Michael Todd: Click Here
notice he isn't standing quite as straight as I am. I have no reason to lie about my height, and I'm 5'11 and 1/4 (barefoot/with socks on). Looking at both pics and assuming regular footwear is worn I think Arnold must be under 6'0... opinions? burby says on 11/Jan/10
Arnold has lost some serious height. The reasons:
1. He has had a very well documented 1997 heart surgery on his aortic valve. That surgery cost him some height.
2. Steroids, smoking.
3. Just plain aging.
He has lost about 1.75 inches. He's 6' on and off now. Stop inflating, Rising. Good points, Danimal. Midget says on 11/Jan/10
I agree with Risingforce on this, Arnie could still very well be a shade over 6' nowdays without the assistance of a lift or excessively heeled shoe. PatB says on 11/Jan/10
The thing about Schwarzenegger and other bodybuilders is that they are among the only people who routinely appear in public barefoot. Unlike actors like Robert Downey or Pacino they can not always hide their lack of height with funny shoes. OTOH all the "big men" sports like professional wrestling, bodybuilding and basketball regularly add an inch or so their participant's official heights. The terminator is a big man but a rather small big man. Metric says on 11/Jan/10
Arnolds current height is what is interesting. His prime height was pretty well documented in "Stay Hungry" where he CONTINOUSLY looked 1 inch shorter than legit 6-1 Jeff Bridges. 6-0 prime.
Today however?? Nothing over 5-11 thatīs for sure. My honest guess would be 5-11 flat (MAX) on a good day. But I wouldnīt be at all surprised if he is only 5-10.75". The pics with Branson showed something similar. Aww, Arnie. How low did thou go?? Lol. RisingForce says on 11/Jan/10
Except for the fact that Arnold usually looks 6'0.5"-6'1' next to other celebrities, Danimal. So no, I'm not raising his height. Metric says on 11/Jan/10
Any monkey can see that Belushi looks much bigger than Arnold. I just find it funny that a man who built his entire public persona around being the BIGGEST and strongest badass mofo on planet earth is DWARFED in size this way by someone who probably has never lifted a weight in his life and doesnīt give a s**t about his body. Lol. Danimal says on 11/Jan/10
RisingForce says on 8/Jan/10
Danimal, you're suggesting Arnold could have lost over 2 inches in height? The man is 62 and in pretty good shape for his age.
I am indeed. His neck and upper torso have that COMPRESSED look. He doesn't look lengthy anymore. His legs still appear to be long, but that's about it. I think he may have undergone some surgery. I personally believe he is 5'11.5" today (looks barely taller than MAX 5'11" Jim Belushi), but I can live with a MAX 6'0". Anything more than that is you just raising his height to something it is not, as you did with Stallone for years. RisingForce says on 11/Jan/10
Unless someone can provide solid evidence that Arnold is a regular lift wearer(despite usually wearing dress shoes) then the photos I posted with James Cameron suggest that Arnold is still 6'0.5"-6'1". Danimal says on 11/Jan/10
Metric says on 10/Jan/10
Damn, Belushi looks twice as wide as Arnold these days. Looks like he could crush the Terminator if he wanted to!
You're a drama queen and I say this because you make your hatred for Arnold so obvious. You come on here day in and day out to bash Arnold. What do you accomplish in your daily life, other than make enemies? Metric says on 10/Jan/10
Damn, Belushi looks twice as wide as Arnold these days. Looks like he could crush the Terminator if he wanted to! Guy says on 10/Jan/10
Vegas says on 10/Jan/10
well Guy if the first pic is correct then arnie was about 6'3+ barefoot, thats roughly how 6'3.75 measured barefoot (6'5 in sneakers) dwayne wade looks next to shaq Click Here Click Here Click Here
i would bet my house that arnie was never dwayne wades height barefoot :D
see this is why i have said on numerous occasions on this website on various pages that photos are not good to judge height, in the second photo arnies posture is much better, shaqs is worse (he is leaning to one side) and yet is clearly a further 2 inches taller and no he isn't closer than in the first pic
What does this prove. Arnold looks tall next to Shaq. Whatever photo you think is better, Arnold looks more than 6'. As I explained, Arnold is tilting his head and neck back which is why he looks 2 inches shorter in the second pic. But if that photo gives you what you need to serve your purpose, I can't stop you from declaring it the better pic. That is if you're fine admitting Arnold has a 2 inch forehead which he does in the second photo. The idea Shaq is standing any better in either photo is also just an excuse. Lucio says on 10/Jan/10
Lynn, when Arnold arrived in America was 1969 and he was 21 years and is therefore likely that he could grow even a bit.
But is just a hypothesis even though likely.
Secondly, if Trombetta said 186 cm and he wanted to round up, maybe he wanted to round down from measure of 6'1.5" (186.69 cm) not from measure of 6'1" (185.42 cm) that to logic can be rounded down to 185 cm. not round up to 186 cm.
This pics with Belushi has been discussed and archieved some time ago for the follow reasons:
1) Arnold doesn't the same height of Belushi because he is tilted on the left side (hypothetically if you straighten up him, you realize that he is taller.)
2) Don't we see the position of their legs.
3) The camera is much closer to Belushi.
4) But don't you said that you're not interested to the current height of Arnold? Vegas says on 10/Jan/10
well Guy if the first pic is correct then arnie was about 6'3+ barefoot, thats roughly how 6'3.75 measured barefoot (6'5 in sneakers) dwayne wade looks next to shaq Click Here Click Here Click Here
i would bet my house that arnie was never dwayne wades height barefoot :D
see this is why i have said on numerous occasions on this website on various pages that photos are not good to judge height, in the second photo arnies posture is much better, shaqs is worse (he is leaning to one side) and yet is clearly a further 2 inches taller and no he isn't closer than in the first pic Guy says on 10/Jan/10
Lynn says on 9/Jan/10
Guy,
for me numbers are very important.
So 6-1 is 185.42 cm. That is why my friend said Arnold was 186 cm. He simply did what a medical doctor normally do, round up the measure.
My friend Giuseppe Trombetta didn't say 6-1.5 ( 187 cm ) , he said 186 cm, a rounded up measure.
The real Arnold height was reported in an important American bodybuilding magazine of the'80, different from Muscle and Fitness. It said that Arnold was measured 6-1 ( NOT 6-1.5 ) when he arrived in USA.
What Basile emailed to rob is simply FALSE.
But is simply impossible that he was exactly 6-1. He obviusly was a bit less or a bit more.
The magazine reported 6-1, so is VERY VERY possible that he was a bit less.
I have lost that magazine, but it somewhere still exists .
Hope you understand my reasoning.
No I don't understand your reasoning. You are all over the place making excuses that make no sense at all. You spend a lot of time justifying how your "friend" really meant 6'1" and not 6'1 1/2" lost in translation. You shift gears and pull a 180 in trying to persuade everyone Arnold is really your assigned height of 6' 1/2". Where is your argument? Your friend did not say 184 cm, he said 186 cm. Where does 6'1/2" fit into the equation? Besides that 185.42 will always round down. How are your math skills? A doctor, like everyone else, would round 185.42 down to 185. As far as this bodybuilder's testimony, I think you are taking liberties. You have been known to make stuff up, fudge numbers, and alter facts so that they suit your claims. I take whatever you say with a grain of salt as you've proven dishonest in the past.
You say he was actually measured 6'1" and various European magazines printed this during the 80's. Again how does this support your claim? You are making stuff up and taking personal liberties. You must live in a fantasy world to make anything into what you desire it to be. 6'1" is 6'1", not 6' 1/2". Everthing else is pure speculation. Your whole agenda is based on speculation and not fact. You've just spent some time amassing evidence Arnold was actually measured 6'1" and your bodybuilder friend also in your opinion gave a 6'1" figure. Why do you think you can get 6' 1/2" from that? How does 186 equal 184? You really have no argument here and you never have. BWD says on 10/Jan/10
Full head to toe shot of Arnold and Pres. Obama standing close to each other, both in dress shoes. Obama is 6'1"? Arnold looks to be very similar in height.
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another shaq and arnie photo, for some reason arnie looks about 2 inches shorter in this one Click Here
Easy. Shaq looks to be closer to the camera. Look where his feet are compared to Arnold's. Second, Arnold is greatly tilting his head back to look up therefore reducing the visible height of his head. You can do this yourself. Stand with your head straight and place your finger on top of your head. Then securing your finger in that position, throw your head back like you're look up. Compare your height now compared to before. There could be 2 or 3 inches difference there.
Why would that second photo with Shaq be of better comparison quality? The other photo IS better because Arnold is not tilting his head way back. If Arnold was not tilting his head way back, he would look like he does in the first Shaq photo. So anyone thinking with an unbiased mind would use the first Shaq photo as the superior pic. Metric, Lynn, Ali, etc would instinctively choose the second because it would give them what they want while of course ignoring all the flaws. Lynn says on 9/Jan/10
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Same height of Belushi |