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great says on 29/Jul/10
good on you, GUY. you know, i was thinking about this. arnie displayed this ectomorphic tendencies. i may expose myself to ridicule but if you take a closer look he sometimes looked quite small guy, scaled out to tremendous proportions
phil says on 29/Jul/10
probably 6ft 1/6ft 1.5 in his younger days. 6ft 5ft11.5 now. Case closed. Stop whining as Arnold said in Kindergarten Cop. phil says on 29/Jul/10
probably 6ft 1/6ft 1.5 in his younger days. ^ft 5ft11.5 now. Case closed. Stop whining as Arnold said in Kindergarten Cop. Lucio says on 29/Jul/10
GUY says on 29/Jul/10
Metric says on 28/Jul/10
Guy - nobody reads your endless long stories. You are out of control.
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It's clear you don't because you continue to spout out the same garbage over and over even after I've debunked it over and over. If you weren't such an idiot I probably wouldn't have to write so much.
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Hahaha!! Well done, Guy. You send back to him! Cj says on 29/Jul/10
A guy who has had his picture taken with Arnold Click Here
Has given a email address to contact him if you want some commision work done,maybe someone could email him and ask what his height is and then see how tall Arnie looks in the picture.
Thats providing the guy is willing to answer height related questions. Metric says on 29/Jul/10
I never write under different names. GUY says on 29/Jul/10
ACG says on 29/Jul/10
RisingForce says on 27/Jul/10
Who was that on July 27th? Metric or Ali?
I'll place my bets on Metric, due to the use of the word "fanboys". haha
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It's funny because Metric is the biggest "fanboy" here. He is the one most obsessed about his disdain for Arnold to his core personality and values. He deviates in an entirely unique manner from discussions on height, to the fact he feels passionately Arnold isn't a real man and doesn't meet his expectations of masculinity. Even Ali and Lynn don't seem to care about these strange deeper obsessions. Metric is the ultimate "fanboy". He's the ultimate "fan" of the total desecration and destruction of the Arnold brand. GUY says on 29/Jul/10
Metric says on 28/Jul/10
Guy - nobody reads your endless long stories. You are out of control.
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It's clear you don't because you continue to spout out the same garbage over and over even after I've debunked it over and over. If you weren't such an idiot I probably wouldn't have to write so much. ACG says on 29/Jul/10
RisingForce says on 27/Jul/10
Who was that on July 27th? Metric or Ali?
I'll place my bets on Metric, due to the use of the word "fanboys". haha GUY says on 28/Jul/10
One thing thing that should be mentioned here
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is how it's obvious the body type differences between Arnold and Waller. Waller had endomorphic/mesomorphic characteristics with a larger stocky torso and shorter legs. Waller also got rounder when he wasn't competing. Arnold clearly showed ectomorphic/mesomorphic characteristics with long legs and a short narrow torso. Arnold tended to get skinnier when he wasn't competing. This is why Arnold weighed less than people assumed he must have as he crammed tons of muscle on a smaller skeletal frame. GUY says on 28/Jul/10
Viper says on 27/Jul/10
Obviously I meant Arnold was 6'0 1/2 you idiot. Not surprised you couldnt decipher that though.
Same difference. Either way you're wrong. RisingForce says on 28/Jul/10
Burt Reynolds at 5'8" is WAY off. Even now after losing a lot of height at 74 years old, he's still atleast 5'9". Bronson at 5'7" doesn't make sense to me, but I use to buy it so I won't comment, but Arnold at 5'10" now, or especially in the 90's is hilarious. RisingForce says on 28/Jul/10
Even recently, Arnold wasn't that much shorter than James Cameron. I think he could be 6'0.5" today. anonymous says on 28/Jul/10
Viper says on 27/Jul/10
Obviously I meant Arnold was 6'0 1/2 you idiot. Not surprised you couldnt decipher that though.
no you did not, you know you meant the rock. Metric says on 28/Jul/10
Guy - nobody reads your endless long stories. You are out of control. jtm says on 28/Jul/10
i remember the washington newspaper had him at 5'10, burt reynolds at 5'8, and charles bronson at 5'7. GUY says on 28/Jul/10
Good points Lucio. Whoever needs to be reduced in height by Ali to fit his 5'10" bullsh*t, he'll simply make the adjustment no sweat. Since Arnold is apparently standing on his toes in his one and only holy picture, there is no need for his typical meddling. If the photo was cut off before the feet, though, I guarantee 100% Ali would reduce Dantes height by whatever necessary amount. And he would talk like he knows Dantes as if he was his next door neighbor.
I'm waiting for him to declare Ken Waller 5'8". Or will he bite his tongue like with Sergio and Zane. Or maybe I'm a jerk so he doesn't feel the need to give me the time.
As I explained before, the golden rule that EVERYONE in Hollywood lies about their height by 2 inches is a cheap "hasty generalization tactic". Here's a definition
Sweeping generalization (The fallacy of accident, dicto simpliciter): Applying a general rule to special case; A general rule is applied to a particular situation, but the features of that particular situation mean the rule is inapplicable.
"Christians generally dislike atheists. You are a Christian, so you must dislike atheists."
Sweeping generalization includes a common misunderstanding the nature of statistics:
“The majority of people in the United States die in hospitals, so stay out of them.”
"Men are statistically more aggressive than women. Therefore, I, a male, must be more aggressive than you, a female."
Hasty generalization is the converse of sweeping generalization: A special case is used as the basis of a general rule. A general rule is created by examining only a few specific cases which aren't representative of all possible cases.
"I know a union representative and he's a terrible person. I wouldn't trust any of them."
"Jim Bakker was an insincere Christian. Therefore all Christians are insincere."
"This schizophrenic has paranoid delusions. It stands to reason that they all do."
Hasty generalization includes another common misunderstanding of statistics called the statistics of small numbers:
“My parents smoked all their lives and they never got cancer.”
"The five subjects in our experiment responded well to our intervention. We can therefore recommend the procedure to everyone."
Another version is called observational selection: pointing out favorable circumstances while ignoring the unfavorable. For example, at any gambling institution, a great deal of fuss is paid to those who win, while those who lose are quietly encouraged to sneak out the back. This way, winning seems much more likely that it is!
"All of these people who prayed for a cure survived their disease. Prayer is clearly to be recommended!"
And observational selection includes anecdotal evidence:
“Just last week I read about a girl who was dying of cancer. Her whole family went to church and prayed for her, and she was cured. That only proves the power of prayer!"
"Uncle Joe got over his rheumatism by drinking his own urine!"
“Urban myths” are usually good examples!
Whether Ali or Metric can understand this I really don't know. My guess is no. Ali will likely repeat it in his next post and after that infinity. He's not here to debate as the actual concept is lost on him. He gets discouraged when a real debate arises because he now is expected to back up his claims. He doesn't like that. He'll continue with the banter that Arnold chronically wears lifts but never post a single photo. He doesn't think he has to back up his claims as if he thinks himself special. He's special alright. Clay says on 27/Jul/10
sean89 says on 27/Jul/10
ths some ridicolous bs arnold 5'10 peak ahahaa joke hes 6'1 today 6'1.5 in his prime lol idiots 5'10.
Agreed. Whoever is throwing out 5'10 peak for Arnols needs to be put down. Viper says on 27/Jul/10
Obviously I meant Arnold was 6'0 1/2 you idiot. Not surprised you couldnt decipher that though. RisingForce says on 27/Jul/10
Who was that on July 27th? Metric or Ali? sean89 says on 27/Jul/10
ths some ridicolous bs arnold 5'10 peak ahahaa joke hes 6'1 today 6'1.5 in his prime lol idiots 5'10. klem says on 27/Jul/10
He was probably 6-1.5 in the morning in his peak, he is concious of his height and porbably got measuser out of bed to appear taller, so he was really just weak 6-1 in the evening at his peak. Now he is 1 inch shorter, 182-183 cm which is no ta standout height. lol @ Fanboys thinking arnie is 6 foot says on 27/Jul/10
Lmao Are the saddo's on this site still saying arnie is 6'2? He has never been near lol,always been 5'10 and has never given the impression of a 6 footer. He can wear all the built up shoes he wants, still doesnt change the fact he is not 6 foot and never has been. unkown says on 27/Jul/10
that picture posted by guy before is a different one than the one i was refering to the one i saw on google is a very recent picture the rock is about 2 and a half inches taller Lmeister says on 27/Jul/10
Here Arnold is dwarfed by former prime minister of Finland Matti Vanhanen(197cm) Click Here Lucio says on 27/Jul/10
Ali, why the TWO inches holliwood golden rule is one-way?
If it's true for Arnold, Pitt, Gibson, Cruise etc. then logically it must also apply to Estwood, Connery, Hugh Jackman, etc.. and finally also for Roland Dantes, because he too was part of the Hollywood star sytem, or not?
They too have lied about their heights?
Ali, do you see the little man in the photo on the right? Click Here
Is Roland Dantes.
And do you see the guy much taller on the left? Is Ken Waller.
Suppose i dont know how much they are tall, but this picture shows that Dantes is a little guy compared to Waller, I could say about 170 cm.
If Roland Dantes was really 5'10"ish, why he is so much shorter than Waller?
Ali, lastly: you would tell me, where is the proof that politicians ridiculed Arnold because he has always wears lifts?
I understand that you feel make fun of, but if you bring me the proof of what you say, we may talk about it.
Or maybe you just want to provoke?
In this case, you would be dishonest. GUY says on 27/Jul/10
Viper says on 26/Jul/10
Rock in that picture is really 6'0 1/2 Guy
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HaHaHa! It's good that we can both laugh at how wrong you are. GUY says on 27/Jul/10
Ali says on 26/Jul/10
The guy is only 5´10ish peak. He tiptoed
with Roland Dantes to look taller than him.
Can you imagine a 6´2 guy tiptoeing next
to a 5´10 guy to look taller. Hilarious.
Even tiptoeing Arnold looks only
2 inches taller.
He has been wearing lifts to look
taller forever. His good friend Stallone
wears them too. They give them 2 inches
and sometimes even more.
Arnold is/was ridiculed in the press and
by his political rival because he wears lifts.
He could very easily prove them wrong by letting
himself be measured, but he won´t cause he knows
he is only average height. The fanboys can not
answer why Arnold does not let himself be measured
so the speculation about his height can end.
He tells BS that his daugter measured him at 6´1.
The guy is hilarious. Arnold is very sensitive
about his height.
peak height of these actors:
Arnold - 5´10
Stallone - 5´7
Mel Gibson - 5´7
Tom Cruise - 5´6
Brad Pitt - 5´9-5´10
they add to their height the special hollywood 2
inches extra height,some even more.
Metric don´t wast too much of your time with these
guys. They know Arnold was never 6´2. They just
want to keep alive the fantasy that Arnold was a big
tall guy.
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What it comes down to Ali is that for whatever reason you just don't get the process of proving a point or position. This is not a snarky or jerky insult but something that is clear to me and everyone else here. It's fine that you have these ideas and beliefs but your opinion is ALL you ever discuss in your posts.
The most crucial part of your claim is that Arnold has cheated everyone for decades wearing massive lifts. That's your strongest assertion and yet it receives the least devotion to evidence from you. I asked you to post these so called instances of Arnold wearing lifts, as they must be overwhelming considering, and you ignored this request. I posted a huge number of mixed photos of casual and formal where it was clear Arnold was NOT wearing lifts, and you ignored that as well. You made no comment. It's clear you have NO evidence at all for anything you spout out and make no effort to defend yourself of anyone's demands of you. And yet you think you're somehow a premiere player here? You're a joke.
You seem very much in denial and entirely isolated in your beliefs. It seems like a personal obsession and you are not willing to understand how anyone could have differing positions. I mean, do you REALLY think anyone with half a brain would read this last post of yours and be swayed by it on it's own. It's just you saying things with absolutely nothing to back it up. NOTHING! This is the way you've been for years without any change and it's really quite pitiful. And the moment anyone gets you on the run, like explaining Sergio Oliva and frank Zane's, you disappear only to return again with an empty declaration like this. That's why it's clear you live in your own little world and are either intellectually challenged or mentally warped. Probably both.
On your obsession with the Roland Dantes photo, it is NOT enough. Out of all the hundreds of photos of Arnold posted here that show he WAS over 6', why should one grainy poor quality black and white photo cancel everyone elses effort out. Even if you think honestly that Arnold is standing on his toes, why are you completely blind to all the hundreds of other photos that prove you wrong. Is your photo better than this photo with 6' Ken Waller?
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It's not in a million years. If you think Arnold is standing on his toes, so be it! Who cares! It's still not better than this photo. Arnold clearly looks 2 inches taller. Like I proposed to you with Oliva (to which you ignored), Waller must be MUCH shorter than he is supposed to be. Is Waller really just 5'8"? Why are you SO quick to back up Roland Dantes height as completely legitimate, but all others must be way off. You pick and choose.
Because I challenged you and forced you to explain your flawed approach in the past, you declared a while back that you refused to interact with me. I see that as the ultimate proof that you really are a fraud. That's what fraud artists do. You've shown you are definitely a fraud. And not a very good one. Krigare says on 27/Jul/10
As Secureman slowly and excitedly sat down at the local library computer he mumbled, "Now commencing Operation Flamming Troll". At that moment, he knew the world would soon forget about Glenn...forever. Viper says on 26/Jul/10
If Arnold is only 5'10, then Rock is 6'0-6'1. Unless you think lifts are involved. Lucio says on 26/Jul/10
Ali says on 26/Jul/10
The guy is only 5´10ish peak. He tiptoed
with Roland Dantes to look taller than him.
Can you imagine a 6´2 guy tiptoeing next
to a 5´10 guy to look taller. Hilarious.
Even tiptoeing Arnold looks only
2 inches taller..."
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Are hilarious the bestiality that this crazed troll writes, almost MASTERPIECE! Lol!
But where you go to fishing them? Maybe you dreams them at night?
Ali, let me complete your post, because it lacks a finishing touch:
"...not like these legit 6ft+ tall guy like Clint Eastwood (not now, due his really bad back), Sean Connery, Roger Federer, Ralf Moller, Lesnar etc. I have forgot anyone?
Sure, they ARE REAL 6'+ish guys, not like Arnold that with his FAMOUS SPECIAL SHOES that give him inches of extra height is only an average guy..."
Well, now i seem it better, do you think? JOE ARLAUCKAS says on 26/Jul/10
Metric, you are a capullo. You dont have ni puta idea and you only know insultar.
Hasta la vista, baby. great says on 26/Jul/10
no arnold was definetely over 5 10 . i cannot be deemed a fanboy by the way
i am simply trying to be objective.
i mean i would buy 6 1. he probably wasn´t 6 2 at all cost. but i d say 184- 186. a 5 10 man cannot have such a developed body like arnold in his prime.
maybe 6 feet? Ali says on 26/Jul/10
The guy is only 5´10ish peak. He tiptoed
with Roland Dantes to look taller than him.
Can you imagine a 6´2 guy tiptoeing next
to a 5´10 guy to look taller. Hilarious.
Even tiptoeing Arnold looks only
2 inches taller.
He has been wearing lifts to look
taller forever. His good friend Stallone
wears them too. They give them 2 inches
and sometimes even more.
Arnold is/was ridiculed in the press and
by his political rival because he wears lifts.
He could very easily prove them wrong by letting
himself be measured, but he won´t cause he knows
he is only average height. The fanboys can not
answer why Arnold does not let himself be measured
so the speculation about his height can end.
He tells BS that his daugter measured him at 6´1.
The guy is hilarious. Arnold is very sensitive
about his height.
peak height of these actors:
Arnold - 5´10
Stallone - 5´7
Mel Gibson - 5´7
Tom Cruise - 5´6
Brad Pitt - 5´9-5´10
they add to their height the special hollywood 2
inches extra height,some even more.
Metric don´t wast too much of your time with these
guys. They know Arnold was never 6´2. They just
want to keep alive the fantasy that Arnold was a big
tall guy. Metric says on 26/Jul/10
Lucio says on 26/Jul/10
No Metric, i think Arnold was 6'5" prime and 6'4" - 6'3.5" now. ;)
It's useless for you pretend don't to understand, your puerile tactic doesn't stick anymore. Lol.
Yes, you wish...the wet fantasy of a crazed fanboy :) Viper says on 26/Jul/10
Rock in that picture is really 6'0 1/2 Guy Lucio says on 26/Jul/10
Metric says on 25/Jul/10
So you think Arnold was 190 cms prime, Lucio??? That´s what I call one DELUSIONAL fanboy...omg
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No Metric, i think Arnold was 6'5" prime and 6'4" - 6'3.5" now. ;)
It's useless for you pretend don't to understand, your puerile tactic doesn't stick anymore. Lol. GUY says on 26/Jul/10
Viper says on 25/Jul/10
unkown says on 25/Jul/10
in pictures with the rock he looks at least 2.5 to 3 inches shorter
Rock - 6'2-6'2.5
Arnold today - 5'11.5-6'0
Makes sense
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Arnold easily looks 6'1 1/2" next to 6'3" Rock.
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I see you're all over the Rock page with your difference of opinion but I'm not convinced. GUY says on 26/Jul/10
Metric says on 25/Jul/10
Lucio says on 25/Jul/10
Stick this Metric!
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arnoldsbiggestfan says on 25/Jul/10
arnold is the biggest bodybuilder in history with the longest legs. He was clearly 188 cm. I think 190cm out of bed. Look at his long legs, legs of a 188cm body. There is no 185-187 cm Bodybuilder out there who has longer legs. His legs are outstanding long. He was 188cm.
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Music to my ears. Myself I couldn't have said it better!
Absolutely true!
So you think Arnold was 190 cms prime, Lucio??? That´s what I call one DELUSIONAL fanboy...omg
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Are you a f*cking idiot Metric with these non-stop Strawman tactics!?! I mean, do you realize what it is I accuse you of being ALL THE TIME!?! Are you able to understand any of it? Do you realize how weak you seem to everyone every time you make dumb statements like this. No one ever said 190 cm PRIME. 190 cm out of bed is not the same as a height you'd see at the top of this page. It makes you feel like the righteous big man to attack statements taken waaayyyyyy out of context. Viper says on 25/Jul/10
unkown says on 25/Jul/10
in pictures with the rock he looks at least 2.5 to 3 inches shorter
Rock - 6'2-6'2.5
Arnold today - 5'11.5-6'0
Makes sense great says on 25/Jul/10
i see him over 6 now. i mean i remember this scene from the expendables where he faces stallone (probably on a ladder or lifts at 6 ft) and he seems taller.
so considering he has lost a bit due to illness and a lack of roids, i would say he was over 186 peak.
his legs are long thats true, but were they that extraordinarily long?
tohugh his political views may be debatable, he is definetely a great character who has achieved great things. everybody is proud of him, not only in Gratz but all across German speaking Europe. dmeyer says on 25/Jul/10
1988 was his peak height and he looks legit 6 ft 1 no more in the pics above Rillo says on 25/Jul/10
My 2p worth.... to those small number of individuals on this site who seem determined to the point of psychosis to prove Arnold is a dwarf, here is a simple question....
Bearing in mind that he is very very wealthy and his claimed height has always been 6-1 to 6-2, if he were shorter why not just buy good lifts and wear them all the time?? He can afford them. In this way he would always look this stated height.....
Based on the evidence it seems clear he was and is still over 6 feet and the fact he commonly appears in flat shoes seems to show he doesn't have any worries about his true height... Ace says on 25/Jul/10
Metric, i hope you realize that every time you refer to someone who believes arnold was near or around 6`2 as an idiot, you are insulting the moderator of this site. I mean, really!
Anyway, Arnold in his prime really did consistently look in the 6`1-6`2 range. I really am not sure how that is debatable. Metric says on 25/Jul/10
Lucio says on 25/Jul/10
Stick this Metric!
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arnoldsbiggestfan says on 25/Jul/10
arnold is the biggest bodybuilder in history with the longest legs. He was clearly 188 cm. I think 190cm out of bed. Look at his long legs, legs of a 188cm body. There is no 185-187 cm Bodybuilder out there who has longer legs. His legs are outstanding long. He was 188cm.
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Music to my ears. Myself I couldn't have said it better!
Absolutely true!
So you think Arnold was 190 cms prime, Lucio??? That´s what I call one DELUSIONAL fanboy...omg Lucio says on 25/Jul/10
Stick this Metric!
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arnoldsbiggestfan says on 25/Jul/10
arnold is the biggest bodybuilder in history with the longest legs. He was clearly 188 cm. I think 190cm out of bed. Look at his long legs, legs of a 188cm body. There is no 185-187 cm Bodybuilder out there who has longer legs. His legs are outstanding long. He was 188cm.
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Music to my ears. Myself I couldn't have said it better!
Absolutely true! unkown says on 25/Jul/10
in pictures with the rock he looks at least 2.5 to 3 inches shorter Viper says on 25/Jul/10
Only an insecure moron would make the name "SecureMan" as their name, lol. arnoldsbiggestfan says on 25/Jul/10
arnold is the biggest bodybuilder in history with the longest legs. He was clearly 188 cm. I think 190cm out of bed. Look at his long legs, legs of a 188cm body. There is no 185-187 cm Bodybuilder out there who has longer legs. His legs are outstanding long. He was 188cm. SecureMan says on 25/Jul/10
I think it's time for us to completely ignore Metric here. Why bother debating this troll? Shaun says on 25/Jul/10
Metric. Why do you CARE so much whether Arnie was really 6' peak or 6'2" and show so much anger over it??? Seriously your behaviour on here is very worrying. GUY says on 25/Jul/10
Metric says on 24/Jul/10
Lucio even goes so far as to call Vernon Wells a full 6-1 !!??? Let´s leave that standing for a moment...Vernon Wells at 6-1...yes, of course, Lucio. You delusional spambot!!!!!!
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Stick it to him Lucio!!! GUY says on 24/Jul/10
Metric says on 23/Jul/10
OMG, the fanboys are now inflating Vernon Wells by a RIDICOULUS amount to protect their crazed fantasy of a 6-2 prime Schwarzenegger!?? This NONSENSE has to stop!! Pegging Wells at 6-0 when Rob has him at 5-10.5 is just below standard! I´m truly saddened by this development.
Metric says on 24/Jul/10
Lucio even goes so far as to call Vernon Wells a full 6-1 !!??? Let´s leave that standing for a moment...Vernon Wells at 6-1...yes, of course, Lucio. You delusional spambot!!!!!!
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I believe this is the 89th occurrence of Strawman tactic by you this year. No one ever said Vernon Wells WAS 6' or 6'1". You deliberately manipulate the argument and peoples statements so that you can attack that "strawman" instead of what they really was said. Very sad, and pathetic child tactic.
He does LOOK it next to Dan Hedaya for some reason or other. Something is not right there as Wells is supposed to be 5'10"-5'10 1/2" and Hedaya 5'9". Either Hedaya is a lot shorter than he's supposed to be, Wells was taller back in the 80's, or likely Wells benefited from height enhancing footwear. Nuff said. Lucio says on 24/Jul/10
Yes Metric, i confirm: Vernon Wells was closer to 6'1" in Commando.
The cases are two: either Vernon had some aid or Hedaya was not 5'9", either.
At this regard, i refer you to the Guy's post of the 21/Jul/10 on which i agree saw the big height difference between Vernon and Hedaya.
You can beat your head against the wall as long as you want, but 10 cm still remain!! Metric says on 24/Jul/10
JOE ARLAUCKAS says on 23/Jul/10
I think that Arnold is 6,2 (almost 189 cm). Now perhaps 187 cm. The next film (2012) will be directed to James Cameron, the history is yet closed. Sorry for my english. Thanks.
You shouldn´t feel sorry for your english, Joe, but for your stupidity. Thanks. Metric says on 24/Jul/10
I can explain that EASILY, spambot (Lucio)!! There is NOWHERE near 10 cms between Hedaya and Wells!! You are making s**t up out of your delusional craphole. Metric says on 24/Jul/10
Lucio even goes so far as to call Vernon Wells a full 6-1 !!??? Let´s leave that standing for a moment...Vernon Wells at 6-1...yes, of course, Lucio. You delusional spambot!!!!!! Lucio says on 24/Jul/10
Metric says on 23/Jul/10
OMG, the fanboys are now inflating Vernon Wells by a RIDICOULUS amount to protect their crazed fantasy of a 6-2 prime Schwarzenegger!?? This NONSENSE has to stop!! Pegging Wells at 6-0 when Rob has him at 5-10.5 is just below standard! I´m truly saddened by this development.
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If you want i give you my hanky, Metric. Lol.
I can say the same: pegging Arnie at 6 feet prime when Rob has him at 6'1.5" is simply ludicrous.
The fanboys are methodical, instead to appeal to daddy Rob, why don't you try to explain why there are 4 inches (10 cm) difference between Wells and Hedaya?
Click Here JOE ARLAUCKAS says on 23/Jul/10
I think that Arnold is 6,2 (almost 189 cm). Now perhaps 187 cm. The next film (2012) will be directed to James Cameron, the history is yet closed. Sorry for my english. Thanks. Metric says on 23/Jul/10
OMG, the fanboys are now inflating Vernon Wells by a RIDICOULUS amount to protect their crazed fantasy of a 6-2 prime Schwarzenegger!?? This NONSENSE has to stop!! Pegging Wells at 6-0 when Rob has him at 5-10.5 is just below standard! I´m truly saddened by this development. bam says on 23/Jul/10
call me crazy but he consistently looks 6'0.5 with obama. Lucio says on 23/Jul/10
And another point out by Guy.
How can 5'10.5"(179 cm) Wells being so much taller than 5'9" (175 cm) Dan Hedaya?
Because 179 cm - 175 cm = 4 cm difference, here anything but 4 cm, there are at least 10 cm!
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Just check with a ruler, just above the Wells eyebrow where comes the red line from Hedaya, until the top of the of Wells head.
This can't be explained except with inside built-in lifts that boosted him and give him extra height to bring it up to 6ft (182.88 cm.) which is the risulting difference.
This will be difficult to accept by Metric and other little troll, you will see, they will pretend to ignore it (as has already happened) and you will not give importance, because being a logical deduction that contrasts with their idea, they can't do less of reject it, doesn't being honest enough to admit it.
All calculated.
Case closed. Vegas says on 23/Jul/10
meh, in the final naked gun movie leslie nielsen is decribed as 6'2, nielsen was nowhere near 6'2 in the early 90s Yaspaa says on 23/Jul/10
He would have been in his boots. E says on 23/Jul/10
In the mall scene of Commando the security guards say they are looking for a 6'2" man Peter says on 22/Jul/10
I met him in the mid 80s (right after Conan came out, he still had the longer hair). I am an honest 6-2, and I was at least two inches taller. Lucio says on 22/Jul/10
Metric says on 22/Jul/10
I think those pics with Vernon Wells might be another Arnold height smoking gun. It´s pretty sad to see how some of the fanboys are desperately trying to talk Vernon taller than he really is/was. He is/was 5-10.5. And Arnold looks 5-11.5 to 6-0 (at BEST) next to Wells. Case closed.
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HAHAHA... Case closed a damn, Metric of the ruin!
At the already comprehensive explanation gave by Guy, I remember you the mine:
Q: We see their type of footwear?
A: NO.
Q: Could Wells to have a thick shoes than Arnold to appear taller?
A:YES.
Q: we see the terrain condition?
A: NO.
Q:We see the legs posture?
A:NO.
Q: It's a definitive picture to a proper height assesment?
At this last question, answer me in all honesty. Metric says on 22/Jul/10
I think those pics with Vernon Wells might be another Arnold height smoking gun. It´s pretty sad to see how some of the fanboys are desperately trying to talk Vernon taller than he really is/was. He is/was 5-10.5. And Arnold looks 5-11.5 to 6-0 (at BEST) next to Wells. Case closed. Lucio says on 22/Jul/10
Yaspaa says on 22/Jul/10
I always wondered why so many other people were taller than him in movies, now I know, he was only 6'0.
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Well, now you know this shocking truth, i hope you will sleep better at night! :) Yaspaa says on 22/Jul/10
I always wondered why so many other people were taller than him in movies, now I know, he was only 6'0. unknown says on 21/Jul/10
looks no taller than 6 foot more like 5-11 ACG says on 21/Jul/10
SecureMan, please upload the photo, for the sake of shutting up these morons(who will remain unnamed). GUY says on 21/Jul/10
What it comes down to with Vernon Wells is that at supposedly 5'10"-5'10 1/2" he looks like this next to 5'9" Dan Hedaya
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Now either Hedaya is much shorter than he is supposed to be, Vernon is actually 6', or Vernon had some assistance. We never really see Vernon's footwear so we might never know. But the director may have wanted Vernon to appear even bigger than he was as most are surprised he's not as tall as he looked in the film. Certainly if he appeared only an inch over Hedaya there would be no issue but clearly he doesn't.
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I see a little more than 2 inches and if I measure on myself with a ruler where Vernon's head is on Arnold's forehead, it's closer to 3 inches. The important thing is that Arnold is very relaxed and unassuming with reposed posture while Vernon is clearly trying to be as tall as he can be. His neck is clenched like he's trying to extend it as high as he can, and unlike the photo above with Jim, Vernon is too rigid in his posture to allow Arnold's weight to press him down.
If you look at Vernon's right leg it appears to be bent. If you tip-toe your one foot you can elevate your height which Vernon might be doing there. Either way Arnold deserves extra credit for being much more at ease compared to Vernon's extra effort to appear as tall as he can. In the end, the inconsistencies with with Hadeya and the fact that Vernon is standing with maximum stature render Vernon Wells not the best comparison study. SecureMan says on 21/Jul/10
Jealous much Yaspaa? Haha. The absolute minimum I would give Arnold is 6'2. He had two inches minimum on my 6'0 frame but probably 2.25. Definitely a legitimately tall guy. My bro is a strong 6'1.5 and Arnold was definitely taller. As I said, I'll have the photo up as soon as I get my stuff in order. John says on 21/Jul/10
yes, 182.88 cm or 6 feet flat looks good to me Yaspaa says on 21/Jul/10
@SecureMan - Measured professionally eh? haha, 6'2 my dimpled ass. Trueman says on 20/Jul/10
Arnold with 6'1"25 Fabio Cancellera
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Arnold with 5'9"5 Lance Amstrong
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My opinion: Arnold is 6'0-6'0"5 today. ACG says on 20/Jul/10
Metric says on 20/Jul/10
Anonymous was me
Unnecessary clarification is unnecessary. ;-) Lucio says on 20/Jul/10
Anonymous says on 19/Jul/10
Arnold looks 6-0 at best next to 5-10 Vernon Wells.
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Metric, i too i see 4-5 cm difference here, which would put Arnold in 183-184 cm range if Vernon Wells was 179 cm (5 ft 10.5 in) tall.
But the picture itself didn't anything of definitive, because:
1) The photo is taken with a low angle and as you know, the image is flattened, so you can't do a proper evaluation.
2) We don't see their shoes and legs position, as far as I know, Wells could have a thick shoes, or be on a platform, who knows?
3) Wells was really at 179 cm in 1985? Maybe he was taller than 179 cm and now he may have lost some height at 65 years old. Metric says on 20/Jul/10
Anonymous was me Cj says on 19/Jul/10
There is also another scene in Commando with Arnie and Olson at the end of the film,thats probably overlooked because of the sandy beach,during that scene Arnie is wearing combat style boots and olson is wearing oxford type footwear.
To my eyes in that scene Arnie is smaller than Olson but there on a beach. Anonymous says on 19/Jul/10
Arnold looks 6-0 at best next to 5-10 Vernon Wells. SecureMan says on 19/Jul/10
Nah Yaspaa, I've been measured professionally several times at 6'0 flat in my bare feet. Arnold has a good two inches on me on the photo. I'm just moving apartments now so when I can unpack my stuff I'll upload the photo
Sorry, you're wrong this time kid. Arnold's 6'2. Might want to retract your bull**** before you get owned. GUY says on 18/Jul/10
James says on 15/Jul/10
He was never really 6'2. Nowadays 5'11 flat possibly, I don't know if he's under that mark though? He's nowhere near 6'2 nowadays thats for sure.
With 6'1 Barack Obama
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With 6ft Tony Blair
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With 5'11 Jay Leno
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Any reason why you chose these particular photos as they are all not in Arnold's favor. Hey look everyone, Arnold is shorter than George W Bush!!!!!!!!
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The same but better photo of Bennett and Matrix
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Vernon Wells looks like he's trying to stand as tall as possible as his neck looks clenched while Arnold is just chilln'. Still there is 2 1/2 inches difference there so Arnold looks min 6'1". Well's eyes fall just below Arnold's nostrils but just above his mouth.
Interesting is 5'10 1/2" Vernon Wells and 5'9" Dan Hedaya.
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Looks like more than a 1 1/2 inch difference. You can hear Bennett's big boots as he wades through his scenes. Lucio says on 17/Jul/10
I correct myself: Roland Dantes has actually taken part in bodybuilding competitions, but with the name of "Rolando Pintoy" so why there is nothing under the name of Roland Dantes.
Then, i happened to find this picture
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which refer to Mr.Universo 1974.
As can be seen plain, if the one of the photo is Roland Dantes, he is clearly shorter than Ken Waller.
So, if he is clearly shorter than Waller, who in turn is shorter than Arnold, as Arnold can to be 178 cm peak?
It's not a contradiction?
I can already hear the creaking of the Ali's myth. Lol. lillo thomas says on 17/Jul/10
His peak height was 6-1 Nowdays he is about 6-0 maybe as low as 5-11.5. Lucio says on 17/Jul/10
If we look better this popular picture
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with Roland Dantes "who has killing any our Arnold fantasies, because he was never 6ft or taller" (except with lifts worn for 30 years or so) we realize that:
1) The Roland Dantes family or his entourage are liars (you must never speak ill of the dead) because he NEVER participated at the Mr. Universe 1969, in NO WAY!
Why?
Look here
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As you can see, he doesn't appear anywhere either as a contestant, either as an amateur bodybuilder.
Try a Google search typing "Roland Dantes Mr. Universe 1969" or " Roland Dantes competed Mr Universe" and you will see what comes out.
Nowhere, but absolutely NOWHERE and in NOWAY he was the fourth classified at Mr. Universe 1969.
It's a lie big as a house.
2) The posture: if we look good, the Arnold's left feet, doesn't seem being on tip, it seems lean on the entire foot plant.
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Otherwise, the instep, it would formed a more acute angle than his fingers, and it does not.
This is the most important thing jumping eye across the photo.
3) In your opinion, who would put himself on tiptoe with a bent leg? Come on!
4) The photo seems taken almost in front of both, perhaps with a slight angle to the left.
And then, explain me you, why their shadows are exaggeratedly on the right?
As if shooting was done much more to the left.
There are many, perhaps too many obscure points that should be clarified which just a fool would ignore them. Clay says on 16/Jul/10
Leno is 5'10-5'10.5. Keep in mind probably losing a bit of height over the years.
Ali - that was a great piece of comedy. Danimal says on 16/Jul/10
Viper says on 15/Jul/10
Glenn was 5'7.25 out of bed.
In all fairness to Glenn, you didn't measure him out of bed Viper. You don't know his actual out of bed height. We DID see 5'7 1/8" (his tallest measurement) and we don't know how long he was up for at that point (Brad clearly doesn't like him), or if he laid down before that measurement and if so, how long he had laid down for. Yaspaa says on 16/Jul/10
SecureMan, bad news, your 5'10 Metric says on 16/Jul/10
Lol at the expression on Bennets face LOL! Metric says on 16/Jul/10
No, Lucio. I´m not James. Rubbish. James says on 16/Jul/10
I am not metric GUY says on 16/Jul/10
Ali says on 15/Jul/10
Lol, Jay Leno 5´11. This site
is getting funnier every day.
Jay Leno was easily 4 inches shorter than
a Dutch 6´1 reporter. I saw the show itself.
Leno was much shorter. Was a show on cars
I believe.
Arnold peak height 5´10. 6´0 foot with lifts.
Nowadays 5´11 with lifts.
Tony Blair is not 6 foot. He is/was clearly shorter
than 6ft Turkish PM Tayip Erdogan. Blair 5´11.
Arnold with lifts shorter than 5´11.5 Tiger
Woods. Tiger woods 1.5 inches shorter than
Roger Federer 6´1.
Arnold same height as Roland Dantes in his peak
years. to look taller he tiptoes.
Arnold afraid to let himself be measured, his political
enemy jokes about him wearing lifts to appear bigger. Arnold
no response because he has been wearing lifts for 30 years or
so.
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HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GUY says on 16/Jul/10
Matrix and Bennett
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Metric says on 15/Jul/10
Ok, to answer your question Guy yes there is a slope...in the BACKGROUND. It´s very wrong of you to assume this slope is the exact same at the spot where Arnold and Olson stands. As you have said numerous times the scene plays out on a mountain. The surface is ever changing and sloping either this or that way. For all we know there could be a slope in Arnolds favor!!???
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It's good to see you understand how logic works and it shows how you're learning. You can now understand how your photo with a hunched Olson could never be assumed to represent the entire scene. But let's take a look at this photo which actually has proven quite useful
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It is useful in that we can actually see what could not be seen in the film. We can see the terrain behind, ahead, and below them and even the location of Olson's helicopter. If you watch the scene again from the film
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you can see Arnold and Olson pass the pointed rock in the upper photo at the 0:51 mark. We also see the tip of the helicopter propeller at 1:06.
What it comes down to is the photo you provided does clearly show that Olson does have elevation advantage through most of the scene. When you see them walking and having their discussion, Olson has both elevation and camera advantage. You can see when they first begin walking that the camera shot then zooms in, becomes low and swings around to Olson's favor. That's why Arnold suddenly seems to lose height when compared to the first long shot of the scene. That is what everyone has been saying here for years to deaf ears. From the photo you provided I can't see how Arnold could have any elevation advantage anywhere along that scene as the land is all sloping down against his favor.
The bottom line is even if they were both on equal ground, which wasn't the case considering how the terrain was, Olson still had the camera advantage. I can see the back of Olson's head and not Arnold's here.
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That's why simply drawing a height line across wherever and expected it to accurately denote the height difference is just nonsensical. SecureMan says on 15/Jul/10
Look guys, I've met Arnold and have been photographed with him. I'll have to dig around for the photo but it has me, a measured 6'0, standing next to Arnold with both of us in flats. He has an easy 2 inches on me, maybe 2.5. Metric, you're embarassing yourself. Ali says on 15/Jul/10
Lol, Jay Leno 5´11. This site
is getting funnier every day.
Jay Leno was easily 4 inches shorter than
a Dutch 6´1 reporter. I saw the show itself.
Leno was much shorter. Was a show on cars
I believe.
Arnold peak height 5´10. 6´0 foot with lifts.
Nowadays 5´11 with lifts.
Tony Blair is not 6 foot. He is/was clearly shorter
than 6ft Turkish PM Tayip Erdogan. Blair 5´11.
Arnold with lifts shorter than 5´11.5 Tiger
Woods. Tiger woods 1.5 inches shorter than
Roger Federer 6´1.
Arnold same height as Roland Dantes in his peak
years. to look taller he tiptoes.
Arnold afraid to let himself be measured, his political
enemy jokes about him wearing lifts to appear bigger. Arnold
no response because he has been wearing lifts for 30 years or
so. Viper says on 15/Jul/10
Glenn was 5'7.25 out of bed. Ace says on 15/Jul/10
James, Arnold always looked very close to 6`2 in his prime. How you can say otherwise is beyond me. And he looks 6`0 in almost all of those photos you posted. Lucio says on 15/Jul/10
James says on 15/Jul/10
He was never really 6'2. Nowadays 5'11 flat possibly, I don't know if he's under that mark though? He's nowhere near 6'2 nowadays thats for sure.
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Metric, are you? Lol.
I bet that is you. Same spelling, same ****.
These pic are already been discussed here so many times, that i have no longer wish to go back on it.
At the end, these trolls blindside you to tiredness. anonymous says on 15/Jul/10
looks 5'11.5-6'0" next to 5'10.5-5'11" jay leno Metric says on 15/Jul/10
Ok, to answer your question Guy yes there is a slope...in the BACKGROUND. It´s very wrong of you to assume this slope is the exact same at the spot where Arnold and Olson stands. As you have said numerous times the scene plays out on a mountain. The surface is ever changing and sloping either this or that way. For all we know there could be a slope in Arnolds favor!!??? Metric says on 15/Jul/10
GUY says on 15/Jul/10
...That would explain why Arnold looked more like 6'3" in that photo...
Funny you should say that. I remember the pic vividly. And I always thought Arnold looked exactly 6-0 in that pic. GUY says on 15/Jul/10
Metric says on 14/Jul/10
GUY says on 13/Jul/10
A guy named Glenn who used to contribute lots of photos said Arnold was easy at around 6'2" in the early nineties
I wouldn´t rely too much on what Glenn said. He is a guy who believed he was almost 2 inches taller than was his actual height. So it´s only natural to assume he must have been upgrading every celeb with around 2 inches.
Now where does that leave us with Mr. Schwarzenegger?? 6-2 minus 2 inches = 6-0 prime Arnold. Yup.
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My point was that at least Glenn had photographic evidence for his claim. Although Mamun has amassed a sizable collection here and has made a good contribution, I'm not going to believe a 5'10" claim from him or anyone without a photo. There is an age old adage where "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." That could not be more true here. It means basically if you have a claim that is radically apart from what is common accepted knowledge, you need very good evidence and lots of it if you want your idea to seem the best.
Mamun saying he "saw......" is not better than me looking at the top of this page and seeing Jim and Arnold looking about the same height. like I said if Arnold was 5'10" in that photo with Jim, his eye level would be at Jim's mouth or even a little lower. What do I choose to believe? Do I believe someone's opinion from 20 years ago or a photo I can see with my own eyes and an opinion I can make in my own head.
As far as I know with Glenn, Rob personally measured him at 5'6 3/4" and 5'7" so Glenn was off by an inch. That would explain why Arnold looked more like 6'3" in that photo. Even that is just my opinion as I can't find that photo anywhere so you can choose to believe that or not. My point was that Mamun seems like a good guy and he's filling in here like Glenn used to but he has no photo of the event so I won't buy it.
Making the claim that Glenn was off 2 inches from his claimed height so then ALL of his celebrity estimates are therefore off 2 inches is another hasty generalization. It's a fallacy argument just like the idea ALL actors lie about their heights if a few do. To claim that 6'2" sighting by Glenn subtract 2 inches equals 6' is a better system than all the other photos out there is very weak. It's bottom of the barrel like someone desperately trying to still believe with whatever shred they can come up with. Remember there are many, many other photos out there that show Arnold looking 6'1 1/2" that don't involve Glenn. So that little equation really doesn't work does it.
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GUY says on 13/Jul/10
Will I see an answer that that doesn't point out my poor spelling?
I can give credit where credit is due. And I admit your spelling is quite good, Guy. It was the other fanboys I was referring to.
I have said before that you come across as an intelligent man, Guy. That´s why I find it so difficult to understand how you can let yourself be duped by the Arnold circus (and believe the 6-2 hype)? Surely you must know better??
I appreciate your complement but with it you have avoided my question again. In this photo
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all you have to do is either say
a)yes there is a slope there and Arnold is on the lower part of it. Yes the camera advantage is clearly in favor of Olson
b)no there is no slope or uneven terrain there as it is all flat. No the camera advantage is not in favor of Olson
c)yes there is a slope there but it makes no difference. Yes the camera advantage is in favor of Olson but it makes no difference.
d)no comment GUY says on 15/Jul/10
A short video with 6'2" James Cameron.
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Glenn nearly two inches shorter then he claimed? He was 5'6.75 at his lowest, and 5'7.5 out of bed most likely. Nice try. Lucio says on 14/Jul/10
Metric says on 14/Jul/10
GUY says on 13/Jul/10
Will I see an answer that that doesn't point out my poor spelling?
I can give credit where credit is due. And I admit your spelling is quite good, Guy. It was the other fanboys I was referring to.
I have said before that you come across as an intelligent man, Guy. That´s why I find it so difficult to understand how you can let yourself be duped by the Arnold circus (and believe the 6-2 hype)? Surely you must know better??
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Surely it's very difficult to be duped by you and your lies.
They are so obvious and childish that even a retarded monkey (as you say) wouldn't believe it. SecureMan says on 14/Jul/10
Arnold = 6'2 prime. Metric says on 14/Jul/10
GUY says on 13/Jul/10
Will I see an answer that that doesn't point out my poor spelling?
I can give credit where credit is due. And I admit your spelling is quite good, Guy. It was the other fanboys I was referring to.
I have said before that you come across as an intelligent man, Guy. That´s why I find it so difficult to understand how you can let yourself be duped by the Arnold circus (and believe the 6-2 hype)? Surely you must know better?? Metric says on 14/Jul/10
GUY says on 13/Jul/10
A guy named Glenn who used to contribute lots of photos said Arnold was easy at around 6'2" in the early nineties
I wouldn´t rely too much on what Glenn said. He is a guy who believed he was almost 2 inches taller than was his actual height. So it´s only natural to assume he must have been upgrading every celeb with around 2 inches.
Now where does that leave us with Mr. Schwarzenegger?? 6-2 minus 2 inches = 6-0 prime Arnold. Yup.
6-0. SoLLoS says on 14/Jul/10
I don't know why but 2 of my posts regarding Arnold's height didn't show up, I don't remember using any bad words or something.
Anyway, I just posted a few pics with him from the movie "Conan the Barbarian" from an article where it was shown with good proof (footwear, postures, etc.) that he was 5'11 (180 cm) and other pictures from "Terminator 2" where he was 6' (183 cm) barefoot and 6'1 (185 cm) with boots.
Personally I think Arnold was 187 cm peak and around 183 cm now. GUY says on 13/Jul/10
Metric says on 12/Jul/10
I accused Jonathan of being schizophrenic because he said he wouldn´t bother giving a comment and then he goes ahead and does it anyway in the next sentence (!) This sort of ambivalence is a sure trait of the schizophrenic mind. So you see, Guy, my insult was not lame at all but highly sophisticated AND grounded in modern medical science! :)
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He said in sarcastic manner he didn't want to, not that he wasn't going to. Again you nit-pick these little unrelated things to keep up the chatter but completely avoid the actual discussion. It's what you call a lot of hot air. It's what people do when they can't account for anything but don't want to admit it. Well do you admit the terrain is hilly in Olson's favor and the scene ends up with the shot being in Olson's camera favor? Will I see an answer that that doesn't point out my poor spelling? Clay says on 13/Jul/10
Arnold with a peak of 5'10-5'11 is even crazier than 6'2'' SecureMan says on 13/Jul/10
Again, Arnold was 6'2 prime. Sorry James. GUY says on 13/Jul/10
James says on 13/Jul/10
Well Piers may be something like 184cm and he is slouching next to Arnie and would be taller if he stodo straighter.
Remember Mamun saw Arnie at 5'10 or 5'11 and he looked that in Batman and Robin.
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Piers "may" be 184 cm? Is there a source for that or is this an Ali/Metric/Lynn like move to alter anyone's height for your own purpose. All I see is 6'1" everywhere so we should stick with that. As far as Piers slouching in that photo, I rather think Arnold is the one with lesser posture. Arnold is standing with his typical rounded shoulders and head stooped across while Piers has his head reared up like he's pretending to bully Arnold there.
A guy named Glenn who used to contribute lots of photos said Arnold was easy at around 6'2" in the early nineties. He even had a good photo for us all to see unlike Mamun. If Mamun can produce a photo of Arnold at 5'10"-5'11" then we'll talk. Plus all anyone needs to do is look above at 6ft 1 and 3/8th Jim. Discounting Jim's big hair, it's clear the two are around the same height especially since Jim is pressing his weight against Arnold's shoulders. If Arnold was 5'10"-5'11" his eye level would be at around Jim's mouth level. It obviously is not. And what about Almost 6ft 1 Jonathan, 2002. He has camera advantage and yet Arnold still looks taller there. These are just two examples that are as easy as just scrolling to the top of the page. Where in Batman and Robin did Arnold look 5'10" or 5'11"? Metric says on 13/Jul/10
The photo with Piers is from 1993. James says on 13/Jul/10
Well Piers may be something like 184cm and he is slouching next to Arnie and would be taller if he stodo straighter.
Remember Mamun saw Arnie at 5'10 or 5'11 and he looked that in Batman and Robin. GUY says on 13/Jul/10
Lucio says on 12/Jul/10
Metric says on 10/Jul/10
Look how Olson despite his mega hunch still towers Arnold. If he straightened out he would literally be something like half a head taller than the austrian. I would say Arnold looks 6-0 dead on next to 6-3 Olson.
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I wanted to emphasize how much spurious and flawed are your thoughts.
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Arnold has the legs to scissor, then opened, because he is making the step. As a result he is a bit shorter than Olson which has already done the step, and his legs are straight.
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Arnold has already done a step and his legs are straight as Olson, in fact he is almost at the same Olson's height, which has already done the step, so both their legs are straight.
Metric, Olson doesn't hunched for the duration of the interview, but only in your photo and there are two points to make:
First, Arnold certainly didn't a straight posture, his head is low and has his hands in pockets.
Second, as anyone can see, as they walk, the terrain tilts more, so at the end of the interview (when they are one in front each other) the height difference is greater than when they started to walk.
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Exactly Lucio. That's why I chose that first photo because Arnold and Olson are in similar stride. Walking photo comparisons are never really completely reliable but Arnold does clearly look the height he's supposed to in that photo. GUY says on 13/Jul/10
James says on 12/Jul/10
Here is Arnie in 1985 with Piers Morgan who is 6ft or slighty more. I remember Mamnun also stated that Arnie appeared 5'10 or 5'11 to him.
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Rob Do you think 6'1.5 might be too high for Arnies peak height becasue here he looks only 5'11 if that.
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Piers Morgan is/was 6'1". They look around the same height there as 1/2 inch difference in height would hardly be that noticeable. I can't see 5'11" as they look like they are standing side by side. It just looks like they aren't because Piers is angled differently. That's because he's playing around with a clenched fist like he's giving Arnold the business. Both of their head dimensions are identical which indicates they are standing side by side.
At that angle Piers is not looking straight ahead like he would if he was behind Arnold. His eyes are completely looking to the side like someone angled who's still trying to make direct eye contact. Confirms Arnold looks at least minimum 6'1" in this photo. If Anything Arnold seems a slight bit taller. GUY says on 13/Jul/10
Metric says on 12/Jul/10
I love how all the fanboys are trying to bring me down in their hugely flawed english. I bet most of you are native english speakers but damn nobody understands what the he*l you are typing. Lol.
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I also love how Metric contradicts himself either before or after making a stupid statement. He has done this before.
Metric says on 12/Jul/10
WATCH THE COMMANDO MOVIE CLIP! Arnold is NOT NEVER in a million years close to Olson in height! I can´t believe this BS!
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So Arnold is "NOT NEVER in a million years close to Olson in height." So HE IS close to Olson's height? Is that a Freudian slip or is this just flawed English on your part? I see the grammar Nazi is on the prowl. I always laugh when someone makes a call on proper language while using incorrect grammar or spelling. Good way to create a diversion. The debate is not about that. To me it displays if someone can't properly attack the arguments in question they will attack some other area not related to the debate. It's a good indicator Metric has nothing to contribute anymore.
No matter how much you rant about Arnold being dwarfed by Olson in that scene, everyone but you can see the terrain issues. Everyone but you can see the shot as it progresses becoming in favor of Olson. Olson is closer to the camera here and on higher ground
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so how can this ever be a shot to end all shots. If anything it clearly shows Arnold looking every bit 6'1 1/2". SecureMan says on 12/Jul/10
I think Arnold was 6'2 flat in his peak. He just dwarfs most of his co-stars. Anybody who thinks he was 5'11 prime needs to lay off the crack. He looks no shorter than 6'0.25 now and he's clearly lost quite a bit as most bodybuilders do. Lucio says on 12/Jul/10
Metric says on 10/Jul/10
Look how Olson despite his mega hunch still towers Arnold. If he straightened out he would literally be something like half a head taller than the austrian. I would say Arnold looks 6-0 dead on next to 6-3 Olson.
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I wanted to emphasize how much spurious and flawed are your thoughts.
One should notice in this frame
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Arnold has the legs to scissor, then opened, because he is making the step. As a result he is a bit shorter than Olson which has already done the step, and his legs are straight.
In this second frame
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Arnold has already done a step and his legs are straight as Olson, in fact he is almost at the same Olson's height, which has already done the step, so both their legs are straight.
Metric, Olson doesn't hunched for the duration of the interview, but only in your photo and there are two points to make:
First, Arnold certainly didn't a straight posture, his head is low and has his hands in pockets.
Second, as anyone can see, as they walk, the terrain tilts more, so at the end of the interview (when they are one in front each other) the height difference is greater than when they started to walk. Lucio says on 12/Jul/10
James says on 12/Jul/10
Here is Arnie in 1985 with Piers Morgan who is 6ft or slighty more. I remember Mamnun also stated that Arnie appeared 5'10 or 5'11 to him.
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Rob Do you think 6'1.5 might be too high for Arnies peak height becasue here he looks only 5'11 if that.
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Well, a further proof of 6'1.5" peak for Arnold.
Arnold is slightly hunched and however, stands over Morgan about 2 / 3 cm
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Oh, I forgot: Pierce Morgan is tall 6'1" (185.42 cm), as from many sources on google.
Therefore, add 1 more cm and get 6'1.5" prime for Arnold. Jonathan says on 12/Jul/10
Metric: No one gives a hoot about what you believe or not believe since it is skewed. Listen to yourself. You sound beyond ridiculous little cry baby. You just simply don't get it! You are arguing about a measly 1 inch. You believe Arnold was 6'0.5" while the most common measured height of Arnold is 6'1.5". You are crazy!.
DummyBoy, Lucio, Guy and PhiliKing have done all of my work already.
Look at how high the soldiers are standing. Arnold is on lower ground than James Olsen. They both are walking looking down and Arnold is hunched as well, which is why his shoulders are slumped and his chest is sunk into his sternum.
I enhanced the Guy and Lucio pictures and you can clearly see the soldiers are standing extremely high and 6'3" James Olsen is walking on higher ground than Arnold.
It is a mountainous terrain and 6'3" James Olsen is walking on higher ground than Arnold giving him a big boost in leverage:
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Click Here Metric says on 12/Jul/10
I accused Jonathan of being schizophrenic because he said he wouldn´t bother giving a comment and then he goes ahead and does it anyway in the next sentence (!) This sort of ambivalence is a sure trait of the schizophrenic mind. So you see, Guy, my insult was not lame at all but highly sophisticated AND grounded in modern medical science! :) James says on 12/Jul/10
Here is Arnie in 1985 with Piers Morgan who is 6ft or slighty more. I remember Mamnun also stated that Arnie appeared 5'10 or 5'11 to him.
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Rob Do you think 6'1.5 might be too high for Arnies peak height becasue here he looks only 5'11 if that. unknown says on 12/Jul/10
just saw the 6th day terry crews has a good 2 inches on arnald Lucio says on 12/Jul/10
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Lol, Guy. Thanks for posting that video clip. Pause at 1:23. That´s the real height difference between Arnold and Olson. Looks like an easy 2 inches. Olson is HUNCHED. Arnold is not. Add 1 more inch. 6-0 prime Arnie and 6-3 hunched over Olson. You just proved my point. Thank you! :)
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Metric, we have said you in any sauce that the ground is tilted because we are in the mountains, yet you ignore it, and then, what we go to debate?
If you don't have the honesty to admit the evidence, confirm you for that you're: a dishonest troll, like Ali.
The sarcasm will not serve to your own cause. Metric says on 12/Jul/10
I love how all the fanboys are trying to bring me down in their hugely flawed english. I bet most of you are native english speakers but damn nobody understands what the he*l you are typing. Lol. Metric says on 12/Jul/10
WATCH THE COMMANDO MOVIE CLIP! Arnold is NOT NEVER in a million years close to Olson in height! I can´t believe this BS! GUY says on 12/Jul/10
Metric says on 11/Jul/10
Lol, Guy. Thanks for posting that video clip. Pause at 1:23. That´s the real height difference between Arnold and Olson. Looks like an easy 2 inches. Olson is HUNCHED. Arnold is not. Add 1 more inch. 6-0 prime Arnie and 6-3 hunched over Olson. You just proved my point. Thank you! :)
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Alright here's the image from that time stop. Notice the terrain issues and how it all seems to be sloping down. Look at the two army guys in the background and how they are on different levels. Notice how Olson is closer to the camera. He has the advantage. Notice how Arnold and Olsen still seem to be eye to eye.
Finding a production still that shows Olsen in a certain posture does NOT indicate his posture throughout the entire shot. That is logically flawed. That is a weak underhanded tactic on your part. Especially when it's obvious that he isn't standing with that posture here
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We can all see he's not that slouched.
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Jonathan says on 10/Jul/10
That picture you posted of Arnold with James Olsen is so ludicrous that I don't even want to comment (Hint: James is closer to the camer and it is a mountain Wink! Wink!).
Are you schizophrenic, Jonathan???
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So you don't observe that the terrain is very hilly against Arnold's favor and Olson is closer to the camera. This is common sense that everyone can see. And yet you accuse Jonathan of being crazy. That's the best you can come up with. Lame. DummyBoy says on 11/Jul/10
Metric: Jonathan is correct. It is just that you are an obsessed, biased, demented when you completely ignore the fact that James Olsen has the ground advantage. He is walking on higher ground and you being you are trolling fool.
If 6'3" James Olsen is hunched, Arnold is also walking in a very relaxed posture and has a big hunch on the back (like he always walks with his spine curled in). His huge chest is sunk in that proves Arnold is walking with a hunch as well.
If they both were walking on level ground and James Olsen stood up straight, the difference would be no more than 1.5 inches.
I drew the lines on the rough mountainous terrain and how 6'3" James Olsen is walking on higher ground than Arnold:
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Lol, Guy. Thanks for posting that video clip. Pause at 1:23. That´s the real height difference between Arnold and Olson. Looks like an easy 2 inches. Olson is HUNCHED. Arnold is not. Add 1 more inch. 6-0 prime Arnie and 6-3 hunched over Olson. You just proved my point. Thank you! :) Metric says on 11/Jul/10
Jonathan says on 10/Jul/10
That picture you posted of Arnold with James Olsen is so ludicrous that I don't even want to comment (Hint: James is closer to the camer and it is a mountain Wink! Wink!).
Are you schizophrenic, Jonathan??? GUY says on 11/Jul/10
Ali says on 9/Jul/10
Lucio, you can try all your life, Arnold
was never 6´2, not even close, even in
with his lifts.
PLEASE post evidence of lifts. I have shown you're an idiot by you continuously posting remarks on Arnold's lifts without ever addressing the proof of it. I have asked you to do this and yet you continue posting these matter of fact statements. Here's a clue for you Ali: Arnold has never worn lifts! No matter how much you say it, it will never be true, you nutcase. Prove it. Here's Ali's next post:
"Arnold was never as tall as Sean Connery or other tall guys. He was 5'10" and only looked 6' with his magic lifts. Roland Dantes photo shows Arnold in tip toes and kills everything."
Ali, feel free to copy and paste this as I give you permission. It's probably better worded and you can conveniently just copy/post with each entry. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't tell the difference anyways. You post the same damn thing every time. GUY says on 11/Jul/10
So here we have Metric claiming my photos is absolutely flawed in every way. He asserts it should never be thought of as "proof".
Metric says on 10/Jul/10
This bullsh*t has to end! Guy you deliberately pick pictures where the other guy is terribly HUNCHED over so Arnold automatically appears taller than he is. Your tactics are as sad as they are flawed. Get a life mate.
He then proceeds to post this photo.......
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....and claims all sorts of superlatives of measurement as if this should be the gold standard for the Olson/Arnold comparison.
So in Metric's photo it is clear
1)there is a downward slope to a hill to which Arnold is not favored.
2)Olson is closer to the camera. It's not a straight side to side photo but an overlap photo where Arnold is more distant.
3)Olson is hunched in Metric's photo but Arnold is also scissor stepped in mid stride compared to Olson's straight leg.
4)Can you verify your photo was taken at exactly the same time as mine. A person could have different body postures that change continuously. Your photo likely doesn't meet up with mine as we don't know when your photo was shot. It could have been at any place as it looks like a production photo.
5)How hunched is he? With terrain advantage and supposedly hunched they look close in height.
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But watching the footage Olson really doesn't look overtly hunched as he does in your photo
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So the two don't necessarily meet up. It's taking one separate photo and trying to make it out like it represents the entire sequence of film for that scene. That doesn't work.
So in the end Metric contradicts himself once again by trashing my effort but promoting his own of much worse criteria. What's the word? Hippocrate. Viper says on 10/Jul/10
LOL, Rampage why not 6'3, why not 6'4, better yet why not 6'5 peak for Arnie? RampageClover 190.8cm says on 10/Jul/10
Out of curiousity how tall is Serge Nubret? Jonathan says on 10/Jul/10
Metric: You left once before after getting humiliated from this board because your exposed agenda without shadow of a doubt. When are you going to actually leave??
That picture you posted of Arnold with James Olsen is so ludicrous that I don't even want to comment (Hint: James is closer to the camer and it is a mountain Wink! Wink!). Metric says on 10/Jul/10
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Look how Olson despite his mega hunch still towers Arnold. If he straightened out he would literally be something like half a head taller than the austrian. I would say Arnold looks 6-0 dead on next to 6-3 Olson.
And Guy - your feeble attempts at creating a 6-2 prime Schwarzenegger just cracks me up every time. Keep em´ coming. It´s good fun. RampageClover 190.8cm says on 10/Jul/10
Looks 6ft2in next to Nealon and more or less the same height as that 6ft3in guy.....I think 188cm for his peak could be on the money. Lucio says on 10/Jul/10
Interesting Jonathan, I knew that Arnold had lost weight to play "Stay Hungry" and was to gain some weight to compete at Mr.Olympia, but I didn't know the backstage of the history.
As they say in Pumping Iron, I knew Nubret had decided to participate at the last minute at Mr.Olympia 1975.
However, further evidence that Arnold was 6'2 peak.
Metric will also as you say, but if Nubret had said that Arnie was 6 feet max, I'm sure as hell, you would jumped on the chair of your laptop by joy! Lol.
Ali, but don't tell me anything new.
It's clear that Nubret is a liar, anyone who says that Arnold was 6'2" is a liar, is axiomatic.
Of course, Nubret lying blatantly to avoid that all people world may think, that he was only 5'7", it is clear!
As everyone knows, the only thing that matters to Nubret, in his life, is to hide the fact that he was only 5'7", the rest can go to hell. Lol.
Ali, you can also try your whole life and even in the afterlife, but you will not even convince a child of your delusional beliefs.
It's pathetic, all your pomposity is based on a single photo (which is not really a photo but a photo montage) and nothing more.
Sorry, but is too little. Metric says on 10/Jul/10
This bullsh*t has to end! Guy you deliberately pick pictures where the other guy is terribly HUNCHED over so Arnold automatically appears taller than he is. Your tactics are as sad as they are flawed. Get a life mate. GUY says on 10/Jul/10
Arnold easily looking the claimed 6'1 1/2" next to 6'4" Kevin Nealon.
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Not looking a great amount shorter than 6'3" James Olson in Commando. Olson might even have terrain advantage
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Lucio, you can try all your life, Arnold
was never 6´2, not even close, even in
with his lifts.
Nubret´s statement has no meaning. By saying
Arnold was 6´2, he can increase his peak
height, simple as that. If he´d say
Arnold was 5´10, he would have to lower his
own peak height by 4 inches as well.
Arnold was never 6ft or taller. The picture
with Roland Dantes has killed this fantasy
of Arnold. Jonathan says on 9/Jul/10
Lucio: Also one should notice, Serge hates Arnold because Joe always wanted him to win fair or unfair. Serge Nubret has been known for his endless rants against Arnold and that Joe Weider wanted Arnold to win in 1975.
This story from his recent interview tells that:
His side of the story is, Arnold could not put all his mass back on after he lost 40 pounds for movie "Stay Hungry" and came in at 228 pounds in 1975 Mr. Olympia. Nubret arrived in South Africa at 215 pounds. According to him, Weider felt he was too close to Arnold in mass and had better muscle definition and conditioning.
So what does Weider do (according to Nubret), he tells Nubret that he is carrying too much water on the back and tells him to lose 10 pounds immediately. Nubret has to do what Weider says and ends up losing 15 pounds and down to 200 pounds. By the time, he realizes he looks too skinny next to Arnold and Ferrigno, it was too late.
Case in point, if Nubret confirms Arnold was around 6'2". That is one more proof he was in the 70s. Yaspaa says on 9/Jul/10
Well you can count me in with the trolls (or people with different opinions, whatever), that means nothing. Metric says on 9/Jul/10
Lucio - Serge is not a native english speaker. Maybe he doesn´t know what 6-2 means??? Maybe he just said "yes" because he didn´t wan´t to get busted for his lack of knowledge?? Maybe Serge is just bad at judging height??? There can be a millions reasons for his answer. It would be foolish to take it for gospel. I for one refuse to do so! Lucio says on 9/Jul/10
Anonymous says on 9/Jul/10
Serge Nubret made this post on bodybuilding.com in 2006 when asked about Arnold's height
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Great find Anonymous!!
Although it's a statement, it's come from a very prestigious figure as Serge Nubret, which has nothing to lose or gain by telling the truth.
He doesn't a fool any but a guy who has been in close contact with Arnold, having competed with him in competitions like Mr. Olympia.
So please, now you (Metric & Ali) don't come out with yours usual TROLL delusional crap like "he was part of the Weider circus" or "bodybuilders inflate their height" because they are not standing anymore! Anonymous says on 9/Jul/10
Serge Nubret made this post on bodybuilding.com in 2006 when asked about Arnold's height
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elio - That is the funniest thing ever, lol. GUY says on 8/Jul/10
Cj says on 7/Jul/10
This info might or might not interest any one here but it could so here goes.
From what i have heard,read and seen Arnold Schwarzenegger back in his competion days during the afternoons or probably after working out used to take "power naps" a siesta if you will.They can last anywhere from 20 mins to a 1 hour maybe more,obviously i dont know how long Arnies naps where,but your probably asking why is this info relevant.
Im just playing with theories here with this becaue i believe Arnie was at his peak 6'1.75" - 6'2" but here goes with the theory of the power naps and Vince Basille measurment maybe Arnie had a power nap not long before the measurment took place in which he got back some of his "morning height" from being lied down during his nap extending his spine in the process.
I know that theory is more so for the non believers of 6'1.75" - 6'2" Arnie,i just thought i would throw it out there for possible discussion,i dont personally believe it but you never know and im suprised a certain 1 or 2 persons on here havent brought something like this before.
Dont flame me for this theory lol,its just food for thought.
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Nothing wrong with this and in theory it could be the case. If you lay down for an hour you might gain 1/4-1/3 of an inch after getting up. But it would probably be all gone in 30 minutes though. RampageClover 190.8cm says on 8/Jul/10
elio, unbelievable....lol 'half the kids in kindergarten are taller than him'
I think 184cm/6ft0.5in is about right today looking at recent pics next to George Bush. Metric says on 8/Jul/10
elio - That´s f**king hilarious! LOL. Masterpiece. Cj says on 7/Jul/10
This info might or might not interest any one here but it could so here goes.
From what i have heard,read and seen Arnold Schwarzenegger back in his competion days during the afternoons or probably after working out used to take "power naps" a siesta if you will.They can last anywhere from 20 mins to a 1 hour maybe more,obviously i dont know how long Arnies naps where,but your probably asking why is this info relevant.
Im just playing with theories here with this becaue i believe Arnie was at his peak 6'1.75" - 6'2" but here goes with the theory of the power naps and Vince Basille measurment maybe Arnie had a power nap not long before the measurment took place in which he got back some of his "morning height" from being lied down during his nap extending his spine in the process.
I know that theory is more so for the non believers of 6'1.75" - 6'2" Arnie,i just thought i would throw it out there for possible discussion,i dont personally believe it but you never know and im suprised a certain 1 or 2 persons on here havent brought something like this before.
Dont flame me for this theory lol,its just food for thought. Brian says on 7/Jul/10
@ Philiking:
Prowse is kind of a rare case. We know he lost a lot of height from his hip replacement, and in recent years he's lost much more height in his upper body than other guys his age. Plus, he's 75 vs Arnold who's 63, and more age means more height loss. Still, I doubt 4-5" of height lost by your 70s is typical even for a bodybuilder.
And you're not always shorter after breaking bones. You said that one of those injuries was in 1974. Well, obviously Arnold was still 6'1.5"-6'2" after 1974, so that injury must not have affected his height anyway. The only thing that may have had a major affect on Arnie's height was the hip replacement. If the artificial hips were smaller, Arnold could have lost height due to that, but there probably would have been a lot of buzz about that if it did.
And look, every bodybuilder has a different body type, workout, and different health problems as they get older. I would bet that they lose more height than the average guy, but there is definately not a single rule to how much shorter a bodybuilder will become in old age. So I wouldn't be so quick to say that Arnold has lost 2" in height.
And don't forget that Arnold still looks a strong 6' today next to other celebrities and politicians without a noticeable footwear advantage. We've seen these and many more on this page before, but look at him next to Blair, Cameron, Obama, Frederick Reinhart, Rob Lowe, Bush Jr, etc. Personally I think Schwarzenegger looks like 184cm today, but it seems that everyone on this page minus Metric/Ali can agree Arnold could be 6'0" flat today, so I guess that works as his current height for now. GUY says on 7/Jul/10
Since Ali refuses to post photos where Arnold is constantly wearing lifts, I will post some where it's obvious he's not.
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So we have a good mix of formal and casual that's a good representation of Arnold's regular lifestyle. Ali claims Arnold must always wear lifts to keep his true 5'10" stature a secret. The very instances you would truly expect him to be wearing lifts, such as with Tony Blair, the Arnold Classic, or out in public at the basketball game, he clearly is not.
Ali claims Arnold is very self conscious about his height and yet we see him wearing tiny soled boat shoes on a couple occasions, and regular sneakers plus very light footwear in others. It would seem the opposite is true that Arnold really isn't self conscious about his height at all.
Now Arnold does have a penchant for wearing cowboy boots and other large heeled boots and shoes on occasion. Nothing wrong with that. That doesn't mean someone is cross the board guilty of any crime. Even taller guys like to feel even taller sometimes. Since I've amassed so many mixed photos where Arnold isn't sporting huge heels, that would probably be the case. elio says on 7/Jul/10
Even a former dictator has an opinion on Arnold's height:
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Guy: Arnold and Frank Zane are the two people in that picture who are doing a twist-curl on the waist losing easily 1 inch or more. Chris Dickerson and Mentzer are fully stretched and standing upright with their rib boxes fully expanded.
Mentzer had a bitter feud with Arnold in the 70s and 80s. Mike Mentzer himself said in a 1984 interview that at a height of 5'8", he weighed the same at 225 pounds that Arnold did at a height of 6'2". This comes from an enemy who called Arnold "a prussian son of a bitch". GUY says on 7/Jul/10
Metric says on 7/Jul/10
Guy - Arnold is much closer to the cam in your pic than Mentzer.
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Looks about eyline so 4.5" max, but that photo wasn't shot straight, everything is slanting to the right.
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I wouldn't say Arnold is MUCH closer to the camera than Mentzer. Dickerson yes. Zane is a bit further. Not a perfect picture. I didn't take it. Arnold is more tensed in an ab curl and it's clear his spine is curved compared to Mentzer's straight double bicep so he'll lose some height. His head is also dipped. Eye level is only a rough estimate. Mine is 5 1/4". Hard to say exactly what Arnold's is as he has a pretty big head.
With all taken into consideration, Arnold does appear a bit over 6' even taking everything into consideration. Exactly how tall, it's impossible to say. We can't always ascertain exact precise estimates from every shot. But Arnold does look big there compared to 5'8" Mike Mentzer.
This was really more for Ali and his non-stop trolling of his 5'10" banter. I was interested to see what bull**** excuse he'd concoct if he say anything at all. Taking several inches off Mentzer and Arnold being WAY closer no doubt. He's got to come up with something. Perhaps Arnold's even wearing his magic lifts there. Yaspaa says on 7/Jul/10
Looks about eyline so 4.5" max, but that photo wasn't shot straight, everything is slanting to the right. Jonathan says on 7/Jul/10
Vegas: Read Basilli's email. He clearly says Arnold was most likely 6'1.75" - 6'2" barefoot straight out of bed in the morning.
Basilli had measured Arnold in the evening and Arnold measured at 6'1.5".
Again, Basilli had stressed he has no reason to be lying about it since he has never talked to Arnold in decades since he holds aminosity against him as Arnold effectively ended his bodybuilding career when he was the only judge in 1974 to put him last in the Mr. Australia contest. Metric says on 7/Jul/10
Guy - Arnold is much closer to the cam in your pic than Mentzer. saumya deep says on 7/Jul/10
arney is not an inch more than 6'... thats for sure.... Metric says on 7/Jul/10
That´s a very good question, Vegas. I bet Fatso doesn´t have any answers!? Smirk. GUY says on 7/Jul/10
Arnold looking very tall next to 5'8" Mike Mentzer. Looks like at least 5 inches and Arnold's performing more an ab curl with a slight curved spine. Easily looks 6'1"-6'2". So Ali, time to downgrade Mentzer's height to 5'4"-5'5" if Arnold really is only 5'10" there. Make it happen.
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danimal how come you don't believe arnie himself when he recently claimed to have been measured at 6'1 down from 6'1.75
thats what i cannot understand on here, basilles word is gospel but arnies own word isn't, i don't believe either of em Metric says on 7/Jul/10
People quote each other on here quite alot these days. Can everyone please use the SPACE (or ENTER) button when putting in their own comments beneath the quote???
Like this:
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Bla bla bla bla bla. Bla bla, bla.
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I think you are full of s**t bla bla bla. Bla bla bla, bla bla.
Right now it´s a friggin puzzle to find out where the quote ends and the new poster himself starts typing. GUY says on 6/Jul/10
Ali says on 6/Jul/10
6´1.25 Federer with Tiger Woods.
Federer more than an inch taller than Woods.
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Tiger clearly taller than Arnold:
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Tiger standing in the back and still
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First off we have this footage where at around 49:00 we have Tiger accept his award from Arnold.
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Tiger doesn't look taller there. Nor does he here
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Tiger's posture is good but his head is dipped a bit. Not a great photo for comparison but it's clear Tiger does not look like the bigger man by shoulder and neck level. Here's another where Arnold is slightly in favor.
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Again Tiger does not appear taller. Again if Tiger is about 6' 1/2" than once more it confirms most examples we see from Arnold today.
Your pictures of Tiger and Federer are all dismissible. Your first picture has Tiger with an unusually small head compared to Roger's unusually large head. That means it's not any kind of fair photo as Roger is heavily favored. Second photo is on the greens. We don't know how level the ground is as it looks pretty hilly in the back. Third picture again shows another trademark cherry-picked photo chosen to make Federer appear that much taller than Tiger. It's even worse than the first photo
Ali says on 6/Jul/10
Arnold stands at best 5´11.5 nowadays
WITH HIS FAMOUS LIFTS
6´1 is a fantasy of Arnold. He is very
sensitive about his height, that is
why he tiptoed in the picture with
Roland Dantes. He was never 6 ft.
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The most important part of your argument is also your weakest. You have not provided a shred of anything to support your lift obsession. So it cannot be believed or taken seriously. You seem to think you can just say it over and over until it becomes fact. I've asked you to provide several examples, if its so common, to which you suddenly decided to refuse addressing my demands. So no. Anything you use lifts as an excuse for will be thrown out the window and I will do it every time.
Roland Dantes height, no surprise, is the only height on this site you won't meddle with. Everyone else gets deducted like crazy. But what's that? We have to believe Arnold is standing on his toes? A fair enough proposal I guess. But is it something that is necessary when you compare him to his other peers at the time. Out of thousands of photos from Arnold's barefoot bodybuilding era, you only speak of one photo. The other thousands are useless to you because they don't give you what you want. You ignore them.
If Arnold seriously only looked 5'10" next to 5'9" Frank Zane and 5'10" Sergio Oliva then it might be something to look into. He doesn't. Like I said Dantes height is solid gold to you but everything else in the universe is just plain wrong. So you declare Oliva was under average. I asked you to admit Oliva must have only been 5'5"-5'6" for your little dream to come true.
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You have remained silent. This is a VERY important piece of information that easily shows how impossible your claims are. But you don't care about that and don't want to even think about it let alone comment.
So the question is, why isn't Arnold always standing on his toes. He never seems to be in Pumping Iron. He never is in any other photo. Was Dantes the only person in the world not to lie about his height by 4 inches and Arnold knew this? Was this world-wide height conspiracy so sophisticated and efficient that Arnold could walk around and claim 6'2" and look it with all those bodybuilders and actors who also lied about their heights. But Roland Dantes was the only honest person who's height was what he claimed so Arnold had to stand on his toes in this one of thousands of photos. Makes no sense.
So in the end the Dantes photo is interesting but there are too many photos out there that have to be severely compromised. Metric says on 6/Jul/10
Arnolds steroid abuse is slowly but surely dissolving whatever he has left of bonestructure today. This is where his "compressed" look originates from. It´s the roids. Eating away his bones. I´m sure he can´t even lift heavy anymore because of this condition. PhiliKing says on 6/Jul/10
Brian: A few things to consider here:
- Arnold used to lift very heavy weights (just like Ferrigno), which accelerates the process of "spinal compression". The organs as they age also get compressed. Arnold's spine started compressing both because of lifting heavy weights and his tall man "hunch". Have you looked at David Prowse?? (Darth Vader). He used to be a legit 100% 6'7" guy back in his hey day, but due to being a weight lifter, he has lost over 5 inches in height and now is barely 6'2" in his 70s.
- Arnold has had 4 surgeries directly involving bones. 1- 1974 when he broke a leg when he fell from a posing platform 2 - Ski accident again causing his leg to break 3 - Motorcycle accident causing his ribs to break 4 - Hip replacement surgery, which resulted in Arnold now having an artifical hip.
Ofcourse, all these factors make it easy to understand when Arnold shrunk from 6'1.5" - 6'2" to 5'11.5" - 6'.
Look at Arnold's gym pictures taken from the back in his bodybuilding days. He used to have the "tall man syndrome" where he used to hunch a lot losing 2 inches easily.
Look at the enormous hunch a 260 pounds Arnold has while standing relaxed taken in 1974:
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That huge hunch making Arnold's spine curl concavely makes him lose 2 inches easily (which is why many times he appeared 6' even in his prime when fully upright and with the neck stretched, he was easily 6'1.5" - 6'2").
Most of those other guys who lost height due to hunch (Louis Gossett Jr. and Clint Eastwood) lost mostly because of their bad postures. They never lift even moderate amounts of weights, let alone 500 - 700 lbs (1000 + lbs for calf raises) that Arnold and Ferrigno used to lift. Danimal says on 6/Jul/10
I can live with Arnold being slightly over 6'0" (6'0.25"-6'0.5") today, but not more than that. GUY says on 6/Jul/10
PhiliKing says on 6/Jul/10
Danimal, Lucio and Guy:
Please don't feed the retarded, dumb troll! You know I am talking about Ali!
The rubbish he writes is so ludicrous, I can only laugh at his demented state of mind.
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I agree with you in a lot of ways. But Ali needs to be called on EVERY time he posts his retarded banter. When everyone ignores him, he feels uncontested which is victory for him. Then he'll continue posting the same posts over, and over. I had him pinned against the fence until he basically declared he didn't want me answering his posts anymore. I had to laugh as he then headed each paragraph and point with "Lucio" to avoid any doubt he DID NOT want me answering. He'd rather go after the person without English as his first language because he thinks it might be easier for him to sell his weak arguments.
It's really the sign of an ignorant fool who makes every excuse to not account for themselves and avoid rules of a real debate. He's in no right to tell anyone when to post and when not to post. I have a right to address whoever I want. He has every right to ignore me though. My demands and arguments are obviously too much for him to handle so telling me not to answer his posts is a quitters way of saying he can't. Ali will not go away. Even if he's too dumb, deranged, or brainwashed to ever be convinced he is in the wrong, we still can't let him think he has the benefit of the doubt. Brian says on 6/Jul/10
DummyBoy says on 5/Jul/10
Yaspaa: If you do not believe people lose height when the get to 50+ then you must be living in a cave. As simple as that. Especially bodybuilders and weightlifters whose spinal chord ages a lot faster than people who never lift any weights.
The phenomenon is known as "spinal compression". Even people who never have seen weights in their life such as, Louis Gossett Junior everyone knows has lost more than 3 inches in height. He used to be 6'4" in his prime and is not even 6 foot anymore. Samething with Clint Eastwood who was 6'4" in his prime and now is 6'0.5".
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What you forgot to mention is that Eastwood has developed a hunchback and that Gossett Jr. also looks to have major posture problems today. Arnold can still stand straight, so I seriously doubt he's lost as much height as either of them.
It should also be noted that Arnold's legs were very long for his body, and since you don't lose height in your legs with age, Arnold should have been able to retain more height than other guys in their 60s. And he still often looks 6'0.5" today. I don't buy 5'11.5" for him at all today. Losing 2 inches in height, literally like 3 times the average height loss for men his age, where you don't have any spine curvature, major injuries, and should actually not even lose the average amount of height for your 60s sounds implausible. Hell, it practically sounds like a medical mystery.
I think the reason so many people think Arnold is below 6' today is because he's grown fatter and his features don't have the "long look" anymore (This argument has actually shown up here before), but if the guy can still look 6'0"-6'1" wearing the same dress shoes as other politicians, why not give him 6'0"-6'1"? Lucio says on 6/Jul/10
PhiliKing says on 6/Jul/10
Danimal, Lucio and Guy:
Please don't feed the retarded, dumb troll! You know I am talking about Ali!
The rubbish he writes is so ludicrous, I can only laugh at his demented state of mind.
I fully agree PhiliKing.
It's waste time. PhiliKing says on 6/Jul/10
Danimal, Lucio and Guy:
Please don't feed the retarded, dumb troll! You know I am talking about Ali!
The rubbish he writes is so ludicrous, I can only laugh at his demented state of mind. Yaspaa says on 6/Jul/10
That's another exaggeration, Gossat jr wasn't 6'4, in his boots maybe, and how come this spine compression effects actors more than others? Nah, not convinced. Ali says on 6/Jul/10
6´1.25 Federer with Tiger Woods.
Federer more than an inch taller than Woods.
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Tiger clearly taller than Arnold:
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Tiger standing in the back and still
taller than straight standing, no excuses
Arnold:
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Obama is 6´1 and is clearly more than
an inch taller than Clinton.
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There are many more picture like this and
Obama is always, I repeat always taller by
more than inch over Bill Clinton.
Clinton is 6ft at best today.
Arnold stands at best 5´11.5 nowadays
WITH HIS FAMOUS LIFTS
6´1 is a fantasy of Arnold. He is very
sensitive about his height, that is
why he tiptoed in the picture with
Roland Dantes. He was never 6 ft.
Nobody talks about legit 6ft+ guys like Hugh Jackman,
clint Eastwood(not now), Roger Federer, Lesnar,
Mir, Will Smith and many more guys because they ARE
REAL 6ft guys not average guys with big shoes like
Arnold, stallone, gibson etc... GUY says on 5/Jul/10
Metric says on 5/Jul/10
GUY says on 5/Jul/10
Arnold can easily look a strong 6' here
So FINALLY you are admitting that Arnold doesn´t look 6-1 !!??
What is the world coming to!??? Lol.
Rob has Spielberg listed today as 5'7 1/2". Arnold looks about 5 inches taller so roughly 6' 1/2" which incidentally is what he looks today next to Obama and Blair. It's also the case with the better photos with Richard Branson. No problems there. You see how we have what we call consistency? Either way he looks taller than 5'11". DummyBoy says on 5/Jul/10
Yaspaa: If you do not believe people lose height when the get to 50+ then you must be living in a cave. As simple as that. Especially bodybuilders and weightlifters whose spinal chord ages a lot faster than people who never lift any weights.
The phenomenon is known as "spinal compression". Even people who never have seen weights in their life such as, Louis Gossett Junior everyone knows has lost more than 3 inches in height. He used to be 6'4" in his prime and is not even 6 foot anymore. Samething with Clint Eastwood who was 6'4" in his prime and now is 6'0.5". Metric says on 5/Jul/10
GUY says on 5/Jul/10
Arnold can easily look a strong 6' here
So FINALLY you are admitting that Arnold doesn´t look 6-1 !!??
What is the world coming to!??? Lol. Yaspaa says on 5/Jul/10
@Danimal
More 'he said she said', not convincing, people dont drop inches in height for no reason. GUY says on 5/Jul/10
Metric says on 5/Jul/10
Why don´t anyone comment on the pic with Spielberg, eh?
**SMIRK**
Arnold can easily look a strong 6' here.
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doesn´t... Metric says on 5/Jul/10
Why don´t anyone comment on the pic with Spielberg, eh?
**SMIRK** GUY says on 5/Jul/10
Metric says on 4/Jul/10
Ali is no wimp. But you´re delusional, Guy. Case closed!
He is and so are you. Danimal says on 4/Jul/10
Yaspaa says on 2/Jul/10
I don't care what Larroquette claimed, he looks 6'4 and Ferrigno looked 6'3 next to him.
You don't care eh? Well, you want Ferrigno at a mere 6'3" at his peak and so, you need Larroquette to have been 6'4". He WAS taller than that. Harry Anderson was a full 6'4" and John Larroquette was CLEARLY taller than him. The producer of the show stated that John was somewhere between 6'4" and 6'6". What's the average of that? Surprise surprise: 6'5". Danimal says on 4/Jul/10
DummyBoy says on 4/Jul/10
Ferrigno with legit 100% 6'2.5" Eric Bana in the late 90s. Ferrigno was every bit 6'4" - 6'4.5" up until back in the mid to late 90s.
John Larroquette has always claimed to be 6'5" and not 6'4". Every single interview where he has talked about his height, he claims he was 6'5". Ferrigno looked 6'4" or so in Night court.
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Ferrigno is clearly 1 - 1.5 inches taller than 6'2.5" back in the 90s. Ferrigno was close to 6'4" back in the 90s and has now lost another 1 inch in the last 10 years.
Arnold's pose-off pictures with Ferrigno from Pumping Iron and the 1974 Olympia completely barefoot is more than enough proof that Arnold was 2.5 - 3 inches shorter than Ferrigno.
So...
John Larroquette 6'4.5" - 6'5"
Eric Bana - 6'2.5"
Lou Ferrigno - 6'4" - 6'4.5" prime (currently 6'2.5" shrunk)
Arnold - 6'1.5" prime (now 6' flat shrunk).
Case closed.
I agree with most of this. I think Ferrigno was a little over 6'4" at his peak and today is about 6'2.75" when fully stretched out. Arnold is between 5'11.5"-6'0" today. We ALL know was his true peak height was: 6'1.5"-6'1.75". PhiliKing says on 4/Jul/10
Metric says on 4/Jul/10
Arnold looking short next to 5-10.5 Richard Branson:
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Branson has horrible posture and Arnold is way closer to the camera.
Needless to say "big" Arn looks around 5-11 here.
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Metric, guy, lucio and other people are completely correct. You are definitely a tool and a work of art with an agenda against Arnold (and Bodybuilding). It has been exposed time and again. You picked a picture in which BOTH Arnold and Richard have poor postures, yet you completely disregarded Arnold's poor posture and only put down as Branson's poor posture. Yet, Arnold is comfortable 2 inches taller than Branson.
Now on to some actual apples to apples picture comparisons with BOTH Arnold and Branson stand upright without slouching or hunching.
Arnold with Tony Blair (who is 6' - 6'0.5") and Richard Branson:
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If Richard Branson is 5'10.5", that only proves Arnold is closer to 6'0.5" and so is Tony Blair since Arnold and Tony look very close in height while Branson is about 2 inches shorter than both Blair and Arnold:
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Arnold with Branson standing straight and again Arnold is about 1.5 - 2 inches taller than 5'10.5" Branson:
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Yet, another picture with Branson and Arnold easily looks 6' or maybe a bit more:
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So we learn here that Metric is a tool (Just like Ali is a demented troll). Somehow these pictures where Arnold looks 1.5 - 2 inches taller than Branson never caught his eye. Yet, a picture with poor slouching postures with Arnold still looking taller than Branson caught his attention. Yet, somehow he had the blatant audacity to call Arnold "short" next to a shorter 5'10.5". It is so ridiculous that I can only laugh. Lucio says on 4/Jul/10
Metric says on 4/Jul/10
Arnold looking short next to 5-10.5 Richard Branson:
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Liar!
Eat this F-BOY!
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and this
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and this
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Arnold looks MINIMUM 185 - 186 cm, next to Branson! Lol!
AHAHAHAH... I'm roar with laughter!!
Enough! I can't laugh anymore!!!*** Metric, stop with crap, Please!!! LOL! Metric says on 4/Jul/10
Holy sh*t! Lucio takes the prize for longest post EVER on Celebheights!!
This is C R A Z Y ! Metric says on 4/Jul/10
Arnold looking 5-11 next to Spielberg:
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Arnold looking short next to 5-10.5 Richard Branson:
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Branson has horrible posture and Arnold is way closer to the camera.
Needless to say "big" Arn looks around 5-11 here.
Here is another pic:
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Look at those HUGE boots Arnie is wearing. Lifts inside??
You bet! Lucio says on 4/Jul/10
Ali, Guy is right to say that we doesn't trust you, because you, whenever the times you come here to debate on this board, you made a clean sweep of all the arguments and all the points made clear in the previous times, as if was the first time you come to speak here.
If you and me, we have clarified a point, for example:
Ali says on 2/Jul/10
Lucio, Ferrigno Usually wears thick sports shoes
or dress shoes. You are correct That We can not
see Frank Mir's shoes."
well, we are agree, then however, between a month or two, you don't come here and say:
"Here is proof That WAS Ferrigno never 6'5. This is Frank Mir
185cm (6'1) with Ferrigno standing face to face. There is
only 1.5 inches difference. HAHAHAHAHAHA." or something like that.
Because then obviously, we can no longer believe you.
You can't contradict yourself each time, or at least, if you want go ahead, but don't complain if others say you are dishonest.
Now entering the substance:
Ali says on 2/Jul/10
WHY would politicians use Arnold´s height as an argument?
Because everybody knows Arnold wears lifts. They could bring
up many things but they bring up his height because Arnold is
not honest about it.
If Arnold is not wearing lifts he could humiliate that politician
who said that by very simply putting of his...."
Here again: i already answered you in my previous post.
Who says??
I have never heard nor read anything I say "nothing" about alleged lifts.
Make me the names and surnames of those who say this.
And for you, what should he do?
Stand stright like a clown without shoes to show their his true height? Come on!
There are most important issue, than to show own height.
Ali says on 2/Jul/10
I wrote on this forum the response from actrice
Sarah Douglas.She played in the movie ´´Conan
the destroyer´´ I think.
She wrote to me that Arnold was about
her height. She is 5´9. Now Lucio if you
do not believe me you contact herself.
And you think I'm going to disturb a famous actress like Shara Douglas, it admitted if not granted that she responds me, to ask if Arnold was taller or not than her?
But please!
Instead, do you can show us this email?
Ali says on 2/Jul/10
The photo does prove Lucio that Ferrigno is just
clearly shorter than 6´5 and 6´4. We both know
that as a person ages there is some shrinkage,but
please lets not use the argument that..."
Honestly, I also find it odd a loss height of about 3 cm (from 6'4.5" peak height 194.31 cm to 6'3" - 190.5 cm present height) at 59 years age, but I can not exclude it because the loss height is subjective for each of us.
One thing to hold in mind: Lou has always had since "Pumping Iron", a bad posture a little slouching like a gorilla, never straight (we can see also in the video with Frank Mir) look this shot
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you can see, that the Lou's neck doesn't very straight as Frank of Mir.
What I can say with certainty is that today, Lou is tall about 192 cm at best.
Look at this picture with 6'4" (193 cm) Louis Leterrier
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there is about 1cm difference.
Then, you must always see type of footwear, of course.
Ali says on 2/Jul/10
Now Lucio another thing. Explain this to me. Arnold claims
6´2 peak. He runs for office and his height
gets discussed and Arnold lowers his height to
6´0. Later he claims his daughter measured him
at 6´1. Come on man, don´t you even acknowledge
this?
Ali, Arnold didn't lower his height to 6 feet, but at 6'1" (185.42 cm).
He claim 6'1-3/4" peak, 6'2" is always been a rounding.
Watch the Bronstein interview, he says clearly he has shrunk from 6'1-3/4" (187 cm NOT 188 cm) to 6'1" due of age, i suppose.
Ali says on 2/Jul/10
Obama is 6´1 and is clearly taller than Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton is clearly taller than Arnold and yet
Arnold claims he is 6ft and later even claims to be
6´1. It just is not true. You cannot deny this Lucio,
impossible.
Arnold claims 6ft for himself??
But where???
Arnold claim himself 6'1".
Bill Clinton clearly taller than Arnold?
Not so, look here
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and here
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There are other pictures on Google of Clinton next to Arnold that more or less saying the same thing, but honestly, i don't fancy to find their.
If you look at the shapes of their heads that I drew, I think quite accurately, we can see that they are practically the same height and that is 6'1" (185.42 cm), maybe Clinton a hair taller than Arnold, but you MUST ALWAYS consider that we don't see such footwear and posture of each one.
Oh, i forgot: Clinton today is tall about 185 cm (6'1"), at his peak he used to be 188 cm (6'2") if you don't believe me look here
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Note that, until last year, Editor Rob had put his height at 6'1", but only lately he has lowered him to 6'.05" (184 cm.). Ask to Rob, if you want.
Therefore you can't say "Bill Clinton is Clearly Taller Than Arnold", you agree to this?
Ali says on 2/Jul/10
Lucio, I rechecked the line I drew and you are
correct. The shape of their heads would be strange.
I think the line should be between yours and mine.
The problem is that the picture is taken from below(technical
term?). It is impossible to really assess the height difference.
Well, thank goodness you admit it!
Ali says on 2/Jul/10
Lucio, Richard Moll is considerably taller than Ferrigno. We
are not talking about 3 inches. More like 5-6 inches difference.
It is very obvious.
We come to Richard Moll:
First, it is not obvious at all.
In fact as you can see in this picture
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they are not completely straight nor have good posture, however, by height lines, you notice that there are about 11 to 12 cm at best of difference.
So, if Richard Moll is tall 6'8" - 6'7.05" (2.03 m - 2.02 m), Lou can't be less than 193 - 194 cm. Indeed (193 cm - 203 cm = 10 cm) difference, which is about the same difference that we can appreciate, with all due variables.
Well Ali, I answered to you point by point.
I want to see the next time that you will write here, how you behave if you will remember your words.
Otherwise, we will get the confirm that you are dishonest.
We'll see.
Oh, by the way: I'm still waiting for your answer on this:
Lucio says on 1/Jul/10
Ali another thing: if you can prove me with irrefutable evidence, or at least plausible proof, that Sergio Oliva is 5'7" (170 cm) and not in the 176 ÷ 178 cm range, then I will believe you.
Until then nothing on the Internet, shows your absurd idea.
Sorry for the long post. Aleks says on 4/Jul/10
At least 6' 1" peak. 6' 2", I ain't too sure. Yaspaa says on 4/Jul/10
He could have been wearing lifts back in the 90's, you don't know, so it's miles away from being case closed. |
