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Brad says on 6/Nov/09
G's medical friend was the guy from Cannonball Run. "Yeah and lots of my fawends say I look like 5' 9"" Vince is almost correct but then maybe not, I knew a Basile and that wasn't his name it was Basilluccio or something like that.
Heightcritique says on 6/Nov/09
Metric says on 5/Nov/09
Yes of course, Heightcritique. Itīs just angles. In reality Arnold is DWARFING Graham and we are all just fooled by the weird camera perspective!
Jeesuz christ man. Get a pair of glasses will ya!?. Governator is a friggin child next to this legit 6-4 man! Their legs are NOTHING the same length! Look at Grahams femur. ENDLESSLY longer than Arnolds! (heightwise) as he is in for example the Graham pic!??
Itīs getting old by now...
Metric: Let me repeat facts slowly and in detail so you can understand: (1) it is a high angle photo (2) Governator is slouching (3) anybody who slouches next to a man of similar or slighter taller height will look shorter (4) their legs are similar in leght (observe the brick wall in the background and the equal level of both men's torsos begin compared to it).
As far as your last comment "I canīt believe these same numb excuses about camera angles etc. keep coming up whenever Arnold is so clearly humiliated"...the following is evident: it is easy to avoid and mask humiliation when one is ignorant of a subject matter in this case camera angles. The humiliated in this case is not the man being assessed in height, but the man who is self-asessing the height of his own ignorance and deceit. Heightcritique says on 6/Nov/09
Vegas says on 5/Nov/09
Heightcritique; except graham wasn't 6'4 (that was his wrestling billing, he wasn't taller than 6'2), we have a long time member on here that lived near graham in the 1980s and says graham wasn't taller than 6'1
if arnie was 2.5 inches shorter than graham then he was steve keirns height, keirn was no more than 5'11 Click Here here is keirn with a leaning 6ft listed jack brisco (most likely 6ft legit because i met brisco a few years back and he looked very close to 6ft even at 65) Click Here
personally i would pay no attention to the arnie/graham photo because its rubbish, i don't think arnie was any 6'2 now that we have video of him at peak and bush sr but trying to make excuses for that photo is a waste of time
Vegas: the empirical evidence clearly show a young 6'2" Governator in his prime, as is evident in the pictures I posted next to 6'0 Waller and 6'1" Park which show that Governator was 6'2". Care to discuss those photos or are you mute in awe? I am sure anybody with a IQ 0f 25 and even glaucoma can tell that Governator is 6'2" in this prime next to 6'1" Reg Park and 6'00" Ken Waller. Those photos I am sure you agree are better for comparison since all subjects are standing up straight and there is very few room for speculation and error.
Also, the pictures I posted of Bush Sr. next to 6'2" Clinton (who I can verify is 6'2")show that same height difference as is the case with Goverator Click Here Click Here Click Here so your argument has no validity. Both 6'2" Clinton and Governator look similar in height next to Bush Sr. which indicate that Bush Sr. was over 6'2" in his prime.
As far as Governator and Graham the only photos available of both men togeter show a Governator slouching so they are not reliable for comparison and only limited for speculation (and not entirely rubbish since they are guenuine photos that deserve a fair and objective discussion) and utility because the only deduction derived from them is that there is no more than 2.25" in height difference as both of their legs are similar in length.
And your claim that Graham was not 6'4" because you claim you knew somebody that says he was 6'2" without providing a hair of evidence, and dismissing all the pictures of Graham on the web that show a 6'4" man? That is deceit to support a desperate claim tailor for the docile, dumb, and untelligent. Vegas, stick to facts supported by evidence not to unverifiable third party hearsay which amounts to squat in an intelligent and objective discussion. Guy says on 6/Nov/09
Those Billy Graham photos are CRAP! Please tell me why all the thousands of perfectly legit photos of Arnold, many barefoot next to other bodybuilders of known height, are ignored for these. It's so typical that Metric etc all clamor for these photos, but the photos must be excused for for such things as: Graham wearing shoes vs Arnold barefoot, Graham standing very straight in a pose vs Arnold severely hunched with his head dipped, and Graham standing closer to the camera. So the only photos Metric etc use to combat the thousands of photos that disprove his views, are so terribly flawed for comparison yhey can't be taken seriously. Those photos are crap. Next Metric is going to show us picture of Arnold sitting down and explain if he stood up he'd be so much shorter. Those photos are too weak to prove a threat to the thousands of others that show Arnold near 6'2". Guy says on 5/Nov/09
Metric says on 4/Nov/09
Lucio - Problem is Arnold looks nowhere near Jims height. Jim is at least 1 whole inch taller, probably more. I would say 183 cm (6-0) is generous for Arnie in the above pic. And itīs not Jims big har. Its obvious his skull ends much higer up than Arnold = he is TALLER. Arnold has never seen 6-1.5 in his life. File Vince Basile under Gs "medical friend". Lol.
You are making things up again Metric! You have taken Jim's big hairdo and used it to your advantage. You are also probably thrilled that Arnold has a very flat hair style of his own to maximize the difference. A guy like you loves that type of thing because you can make up things that can never be known for certain. THE FACT IS THEIR EYELINES ARE ALMOST AT THE SAME LEVEL!
Jim's head is on an angle so his one eye is raised above the other. His left eye is pretty much at the exact same level as Arnold's. So how can Jim in fact be 1 1/2 inches or more taller than Arnold there? Does Jim have a 6 1/2" - 7" forhead and cranium? He would have to in order for your claim to be true. That's just stupid. Since we don't know (only you make up things that can never be known) we can only use human anatomy to estimate where the top of Jim's head is. It would probably be about only 1 cm or a half inch above Arnold's going by eye line estimation.
It was the 1980's and people had big hair. Jim had big hair. You can see how it's fluffed on top there. Jim looks like he could have been one of those guys who bragged to his friends that he's "bigger than Arnold Schwarzenegger!" Arnold is just standing normally, not particularly slouched but not fully straight either. Jim looks almost like he's jumping up Arnold's side. Arnold's head is hung a bit while Jim's head is thrown up and back. You can tell by the angle of Jim's head that he is trying to be as tall as he can be. He's probably able to stand a little straighter by supporting himself on Arnold's shoulder while inadvertantly not allowing Arnold to stand as tall he can. With all this, it's not just conceivable but expected that Jim will be 1 cm or 1/2 inch taller in that photo. But if a guy like Jim is going around saying he was like 2 inches taller than Arnold, I say I don't see it Jim. Maybe if he teased his hair up a little more he can go after Ferrigno and make the same claim. He's proven wrong by anyone with a brain. This is a closed issue!!
With that, Vince Basille seems the more honest one of the two. Metric: you need to prove that Vince Basille is either lying or wrong. The burden of proof is on you. Eye witness testimony is used all the time in a court of law. If the eye witness is shown to reliable, it is used as evidence. Only Metric would have exception to this solid system and deny a witness only because he doesn't like what he's saying! You are just wrong on so many levels. Lucio says on 5/Nov/09
Metric says on 5/Nov/09
Jim is clearly taller than Arnold.
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Don't overdo it, Jim is slightly taller than Arnold, but as I said in my previous post, is a biased opinion because the assessment is inadequate for certain information such as ground type, shoes wear, leg position, posture.
Metric Sorry, but as you said in a previous post, only a full body shot is almost conclusive proof of the height of a person (of course without angle and perspective) that is not the one with Jim.
So we can say that "yes" Apparently Jim is slightly taller than Arnold, but really don't know for sure.
Metric then must explain why when Arnold speaks he only says lies, when others talk about (Jim in this case) they tell the truth.
Too easy!
I seems that objectivity doesn't be your peculiarities. Vegas says on 5/Nov/09
Heightcritique; except graham wasn't 6'4 (that was his wrestling billing, he wasn't taller than 6'2), we have a long time member on here that lived near graham in the 1980s and says graham wasn't taller than 6'1
if arnie was 2.5 inches shorter than graham then he was steve keirns height, keirn was no more than 5'11 Click Here here is keirn with a leaning 6ft listed jack brisco (most likely 6ft legit because i met brisco a few years back and he looked very close to 6ft even at 65) Click Here
personally i would pay no attention to the arnie/graham photo because its rubbish, i don't think arnie was any 6'2 now that we have video of him at peak and bush sr but trying to make excuses for that photo is a waste of time Anton says on 5/Nov/09
I watched a video where he presented a trophy to Kai Greene ( a 5' 8" body builder who was barefooted on stage) In the Arnold Classic 2009, he was very close to Kai's height, first time I have seen him and thought WOW! he is getting old :( ... he is starting to look significantly shorter, he lost his posture big time Metric says on 5/Nov/09
Yes of course, Heightcritique. Itīs just angles. In reality Arnold is DWARFING Graham and we are all just fooled by the weird camera perspective!
Jeesuz christ man. Get a pair of glasses will ya!?. Governator is a friggin child next to this legit 6-4 man! Their legs are NOTHING the same length! Look at Grahams femur. ENDLESSLY longer than Arnolds! I canīt believe these same numb excuses about camera angles etc. keep coming up whenever Arnold is so clearly humiliated (heightwise) as he is in for example the Graham pic!??
Itīs getting old by now... Heightcritique says on 5/Nov/09
Hugh says on 4/Nov/09
Click Here to see Arnold with Reg Park, listed 6'1" in celebsheight and clearly at least 1 full inch taller.
Hugh: I don't know about you but I grew a lot after 16 years old. Governator post-puberty is clearly over an inch taller than 6'1" Reg Park: Click Here Click Here Click Here
In his prime Governator was around 6'3" in shoes: Click Here Heightcritique says on 5/Nov/09
Fundamentally, Hugh's photo is taken at a high angle which is not good for comparisons because it has a dramatic effect distorting actual height of subjects: Click Here For the untrained eye as is the case with Hugh, he sees 5" difference, but that is not the case. To illustrate this point, there is a bar in the background (above Governator's head) which goes across and passes behind Graham's head at about his eye level. If Governator will stand up straight the top of his head will be at least the level of the top end of the bar or at Graham's eyebrow level. Graham footwear appears to be a pair of Adidas Roma, which have a .5" sole in them, and if that height heel increase is taken into account it will raise Governator's head half and inch and it will place its top axis somewhere in the middle of the Graham's forehead level, and from there to the top of Graham's head will be about 2.25" making Governator 6'1.3/4" as claimed.
In the following photo Click Here which is better for comparison because the angle is not as high and because both are barefoot, one can see that both men have similar leg length even when Governator's legs are further apart decreasing his height slightly. If Governator will stand up straight the top of his head will be above Graham's eyebrow and about 2.25" from the top of his head, again making Governator 6'1 3/4" as claimed.
I note however, that a neutral angle photo where both men are standing barefoot and straight will be better for comparison.
In similar comparison with one of his comtemporaries Governator maintains his 6'1 3/4" height (1 3/4" taller than 6'00 Ken Waller) Click Here derek d says on 5/Nov/09
Hugh says on 5/Nov/09
Derek I said "if Arnold stood straight he would be 5 inches shorter". Because of his head down and bending he looks 7 inches shorter than graham.
Shoes are so flat that we can take no account of them (I can guess 1/4" or 1/5").
Clearly in his twenties Arnold wan't over 6' flat. (Grown up in his thirties??)
I know what you meant. Well thats saying Arnold was only 5'11 in his prime? Which can't be true. Graham is also closer to the camera and has excellent posture, you should really look at at better shots of Arnold barefoot next to other people. Metric says on 5/Nov/09
Jim is clearly taller than Arnold. Hugh says on 5/Nov/09
Derek I said "if Arnold stood straight he would be 5 inches shorter". Because of his head down and bending he looks 7 inches shorter than graham.
Shoes are so flat that we can take no account of them (I can guess 1/4" or 1/5").
Clearly in his twenties Arnold wan't over 6' flat. (Grown up in his thirties??) Danimal says on 4/Nov/09
Vegas says on 4/Nov/09
graham wasn't 6'4, that was his wrestling billing like andre was listed at 7'5, hogan at 6'8, john studd at 6'10
He had 2" on Vince McMahon in 1980. You do the math pal. ACG says on 4/Nov/09
Arnold is clearly taller than Jim. Metric says on 4/Nov/09
LOL, no way does Arnold look 6-1 next to Graham. The difference between them in height is VAST. Even counting in the shoes, Arnold bending and all. Graham makes "big" Arn look like a kid. derek d says on 4/Nov/09
Hugh says on 4/Nov/09
Click Here to see Arnold with Billy Graham, somewhere listed 6'4" somewhere 6'3". Clearly if Arnold stood straight he would be at least 5 inches shorter..
Can you see that Arnold has his head down and is bending, not to mention Graham is in shoes while Arnold is not?? With all those factors I'd say he would look around 6'1 next to him. Hugh says on 4/Nov/09
Click Here to see Arnold with Reg Park, listed 6'1" in celebsheight and clearly at least 1 full inch taller. Vegas says on 4/Nov/09
graham wasn't 6'4, that was his wrestling billing like andre was listed at 7'5, hogan at 6'8, john studd at 6'10 Hugh says on 4/Nov/09
Click Here to see Arnold with Billy Graham, somewhere listed 6'4" somewhere 6'3". Clearly if Arnold stood straight he would be at least 5 inches shorter.. Metric says on 4/Nov/09
Lucio - Problem is Arnold looks nowhere near Jims height. Jim is at least 1 whole inch taller, probably more. I would say 183 cm (6-0) is generous for Arnie in the above pic. And itīs not Jims big har. Its obvious his skull ends much higer up than Arnold = he is TALLER. Arnold has never seen 6-1.5 in his life. File Vince Basile under Gs "medical friend". Lol. Rob G says on 4/Nov/09
Heightcritique, for the record I said Arnold was clearly taller than 6'1" in his prime, so he was indeed about 6'2" (he himself claimed 6'1.75"). You obviously misread my post. What is Arnold's height today? I really haven't make up my mind yet. Lucio says on 4/Nov/09
Metric says on 3/Nov/09
Arnold looks exactly 6-0 in Jims pic. Not one inch more! Jim is speaking the truth.
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Well, according to what you say that?
I am curious to know.
Beyond any consideration you can do about the picture with Jim and with all the unknown variables (position of the legs, worn footwear, ground, posture, etc. etc, I think the only sure thing we can say is this: Arnold in the picture with Jim is not less than 185 cm.
Obviously with all the variables involved.
Indeed, an Anglo-Saxon foot is equal to 30.48 cm.
English inch is equals 2.54 cm.
So Jim is tall 6'1-3/8" which corresponds to
186.37 cm.
Arnold at his peak, was 6'1.5" which corresponds to 186.69 cm. Give and take an cm.
Therefore in the picture with Jim the only thing you can say is that they are almost identical as height, maybe Arnold a little less, but because we don't know what shoes they wear, and how is the ground beneath them.
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Not least, as rightly Guy says, when we measure the height, we are much more straight than how we normally (It 'a matter of course, but Metric is not expedient to point this out and then deliberately omits)!
Not to mention that Jim really gives the impression of leaning to Arnold with all his weight. Heightcritique says on 4/Nov/09
Rob G says on 3/Nov/09
Original says on 2/Nov/09
Peak Height is 6'0.5", now is 5'11.5".
Original, you seem right on the money with many of your estimates IMO, but Arnold was clearly taller than 6'1" at his peak. Now certainly 5'11.5"-6f range.
Rob G: I suggest you look at the Honner clip, and the photos of Governator next to Obama, Clinton, Clint Eastwood, Harrison Ford, Tom Arnold, etc. and gauge Governator's present height again which is 6'1 1/8". Peak height is 6'2" not 6'1" or are you blind? Click Here Heightcritique says on 4/Nov/09
Danimal says on 3/Nov/09
Original says on 2/Nov/09
Peak Height is 6'0.5", now is 5'11.5".
He was measured at 6'1.5" for crying out loud.
Original: in addition to what Danimal said, I suggest you look at this picture again and gauge Governator's peak height: Click Here if you can't see a 6'2" man (with low heel shoes which also debunks the lift argument) next to a 5'9" man, than you have a serious eye problem. Guy says on 4/Nov/09
Rob G says on 3/Nov/09
Original says on 2/Nov/09
Peak Height is 6'0.5", now is 5'11.5".
Many here seem to think that Arnold's height is disputable based on their opinion. That's well and fine, but he was measured on a stadiometer at 6'1 1/2". If he was in fact only 6'0.5", he would have been measured as such. He wasn't. Since you don't give any examples of why this measured height is wrong, we'll just assume it is just your personal opinion. Remember poor posture can make anyone seem shorter, and Arnold has never stood with great posture. A persons official height is always measured standing as straight as possible, usually much straighter than normal. Arnold probably appeared 6'0.5" because he was a notorious sloucher, but when standing perfectly straight he would have gained some height. Even Vince Basille was doubtful about Arnold's claimed height, probably due to his poor posture. But Arnold made a believer out of him by standing straight for measurement on a professional device. This is common with many guys over 6'. I'm 6' tall and got estimated at only 5'10" by a much shorter guy once. He seemed shocked and convinced when I said I was actually 6' and then stood up straight. He then replied I should stand like that all the time. Work it. alexiel says on 4/Nov/09
he didn't look 187 cm in his movies and in pictures above Metric says on 3/Nov/09
Danimal - Was he?? He was SUPPOSEDLY measured! There is NO photographic evidence of this! Having Vince Basille claiming 6-1.5 in a stupid email is as trustworthy to me as Glenns "medical friend" claiming 5-8 for the G. Dwight Schultz says on 3/Nov/09
the man was 6'2" at his prime, just like I was, and we're both 6'1" now. Vegas says on 3/Nov/09
Brad says on 2/Nov/09
6' 2" peak, 6' now. Reset and go to another celeb.
he is over an inch shorter than bush sr on video at peak, no chance he was 6'2 Metric says on 3/Nov/09
Arnold looks exactly 6-0 in Jims pic. Not one inch more! Jim is speaking the truth. Metric says on 3/Nov/09
"Halfgod"??? Fanboy puke at its worst. **BAARF** Hugh 191cm says on 3/Nov/09
6ft2 peak and 6ft0.5 now Danimal says on 3/Nov/09
Original says on 2/Nov/09
Peak Height is 6'0.5", now is 5'11.5".
He was measured at 6'1.5" for crying out loud. Rob G says on 3/Nov/09
Original says on 2/Nov/09
Peak Height is 6'0.5", now is 5'11.5".
Original, you seem right on the money with many of your estimates IMO, but Arnold was clearly taller than 6'1" at his peak. Now certainly 5'11.5"-6f range. derek d says on 3/Nov/09
Hate to sound stupid, but what the hell is 6' - 1 3/8? Is that Closest to 6'1 3/4? I never really hear people say that measurement... Henk82 says on 3/Nov/09
Look at the jim pic above, probably jim have dressshoes and arnold sneakers and jim is maybe 1 cm taller or the same height if u shave of his hair. look at glenn pic with arnold, look at Arnolds ex girlfriends barbaras pics where arnold towers her(5.3) with a head. Look at stay hungry and he is same height as Jeff bridges almost. Listen to Vince basile and his measure of Arnie.
Arnold peak height and up to late 90s is around 185 cm. Im pretty sure he is 6.1 peak and claims 6.1 3/4 which he is in shoes, and now he shrunk to about 6 (183-184 cm) Only a idiot claims Arnold is shorter then 6.1 peak, and 6 feet today. Arnold looked 6.2 sometimes in 80s and 90s because he used cowboys then, today he use regular shoes and lost 2 cm and got more fat around the hips, thats why he look so much shorter, very common phenomen in older men
The jim pick is the best proof so far that Arnold was about 6.1.
A 185 cm, 100 kg Badass Austrian halfgod with a 10 inch v2 rocket under his zipper. Lucio says on 3/Nov/09
Lynn says on 2/Nov/09
These are the above Jim words. Itis easy to find them on the net.
...So, while I don't know what Arnold's exact height is, the picture shows he is shorter than I am.
So, no 6-3/4 at all!
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Lynn, please, exempts us from these stupid things!
Thank you.
P.S.
Are you from Italy? k85 says on 3/Nov/09
peak height 182-184 cm nothing more derek d says on 3/Nov/09
Heightcritique says on 2/Nov/09
Henk82 says on 1/Nov/09
"Metric: It may be a bad photo also, out of a thousand pics of Arnold he looks 6.1-2 on all, expect 10 or so. If arnold is wearing lifts(iīve never seen any suspicious footwear on him)then he must have been doing it even since 1969...Arnold could never wear 3 inches lifts and get away with it, cuz his legs are already natural Very long! He would look like a freak on stilts."
Henk82: I don't think is necesary to drag or question the lift argument any further based on one suspicious picture. Focus, don't be sway by one suspicious photo. The Cameron photo is obviously suspicious, which can only be explain in two ways: (1) Cameron is standing in a higher surface or (2) is a photoshop. In all the other photos Governator is at same height or slighly below Cameron.
Governator was clearly 6'2" in his prime. In this whole body picture wearing top side shoes with 1/4" heel, he is 5" taller than 5'9" Sly in 1" sneakers: Click Here This picture in my opinion debunks the lift argument completely.
Governator in his prime was without much movie props a natural 6'2" Conan the Barbarian character: Click Here
Everything you stated is true, except no way Sly is only wearing 1 inch sneakers in that picture with Arnold. Lol those shoes look very suspicious. Heightcritique says on 2/Nov/09
Henk82 says on 1/Nov/09
"Metric: It may be a bad photo also, out of a thousand pics of Arnold he looks 6.1-2 on all, expect 10 or so. If arnold is wearing lifts(iīve never seen any suspicious footwear on him)then he must have been doing it even since 1969...Arnold could never wear 3 inches lifts and get away with it, cuz his legs are already natural Very long! He would look like a freak on stilts."
Henk82: I don't think is necesary to drag or question the lift argument any further based on one suspicious picture. Focus, don't be sway by one suspicious photo. The Cameron photo is obviously suspicious, which can only be explain in two ways: (1) Cameron is standing in a higher surface or (2) is a photoshop. In all the other photos Governator is at same height or slighly below Cameron.
Governator was clearly 6'2" in his prime. In this whole body picture wearing top side shoes with 1/4" heel, he is 5" taller than 5'9" Sly in 1" sneakers: Click Here This picture in my opinion debunks the lift argument completely.
Governator in his prime was without much movie props a natural 6'2" Conan the Barbarian character: Click Here Anonymous says on 2/Nov/09
Metric says on 1/Nov/09
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Arnold next to 5-8 Don Johnson. Looks NOTHING 6-2. 6-0 MAX, could be less.
Metric: 5'8" Johnson usually wears mega lifts and is 5'9"+ with them, and next to Governator he is 5" shorter: Click Here Try again... Lynn says on 2/Nov/09
These are the above Jim words. Itis easy to find them on the net.
""Arnold is less than 6' - 1 3/8". That is what my height is. The
attached JPEG picture was taken at the Arnold Classic in 1988 in
Columbus, Ohio, USA. Me and about 1000 others paid $35 to have our
picture taken with Arnold. There were two lines; Arnold took two
steps to his right, put his arm around the "fan" and the picture was
shot. Immediately he would take two steps to his left and another
picture was taken and so on. I recall that Arnold told us not to
waste time just standing on line: "Do some calf raises!" he said.
I hope this picture will put an end to the disscussion on what
Arnold's height is. Being a big fan of Arnold for almost 20 years now
I always wanted to be 6'-2" like the magazines and books say that
he is (see "Education of a Bodybuilder" by Arnold himself). So I
always measured myself throughout my teen years but all I
eventually ended up with is my present hieght: 6' - 1 3/8". So, while
I don't know what Arnold's exact height is, the picture shows he is
shorter than I am.
Sincerely,
Jim Gurtner
jgurt...@mindspring.com "
So, no 6-3/4 at all! Brad says on 2/Nov/09
6' 2" peak, 6' now. Reset and go to another celeb. Original says on 2/Nov/09
Peak Height is 6'0.5", now is 5'11.5". Lucio says on 2/Nov/09
Metric says on 1/Nov/09
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Arnold next to 5-8 Don Johnson. Looks NOTHING 6-2. 6-0 MAX, could be less.
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Metric, Don Jhonson is tall 5'9.5"
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I wanted to make some considerations:
1) You say that Arnold was in his first 6'0 "max.
Well, in your photo, Arnold looks like a legitimate 178ish at best, so much less than 6ft max as you say and in your photos dating around the early 90s, we can say that Arnold was in his first and that is 6ft, according to you.
But then you are at odds with yourself, because if he was 6ft max, then how does one be 178 cm?
2)You, too, if you'd not taken the heat to show that Arnold was never tall, you would have noticed.
3) In your opinion, as to be 10 cm difference between the waist of these two?
You understand that there is something wrong?
Click Here Henk82 says on 2/Nov/09
Metric: face it, you have like at most 10 pics of a short Arn or suspicious lifts, compared to thousands where he look at least 6.1.
You are kinda like the creationists trying to falsifie the theory of evolution by throwing in some half-lame counter evidence:) Henk82 says on 2/Nov/09
Metric says on 1/Nov/09
Henk82 - Didnīt you see the Twitpic I posted some while ago??? Arn was wearing MEGA munsters on that one! It was obvious.
Yeah i did, thats the only pic iīve seen with Arnold in suspicious footwear, maybe it was just big boots?. I have compared arnolds legs proportions without clothes and with. Nothing is pointing towards he is a lift wearer in my opinion.
Metric says on 1/Nov/09
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Arnold next to 5-8 Don Johnson. Looks NOTHING 6-2. 6-0 MAX, could be less.
Don Johnsson is a famous lift wearer(5.8 to 5.10) and its a bad picture angle. Heightcritique says on 2/Nov/09
Governator next to 6'3.5" 'The Rock' has only 1.5" height disavantage (stop and watch at neutral still 0:09 & 0:21): Click Here Heightcritique says on 2/Nov/09
Metric says on 1/Nov/09
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James Cameron is a legit 6-2. NUFF SAID!!
Metric: I am proud of you for posting evidence. However, you're "NUFF SAID" based on one picture is 'Tom Thumb' against all the existing empirical evidence. Of all the pictures posted on the web of Governator and Cameron, you picked the only one where Cameron is a lot taller than Governator. In reference to the photos posted by Henk82 where the height difference is a slight .5" to .75", as it is the difference between Cameron with 6'1" Tom Arnold, as I expected, 6'2" Cameron is only slighly taller than 6' 1 1 /8" Governator: Click Here and that falls more in the 'NUFF SAID' category, or do you have another picture to refute this contention? Metric says on 1/Nov/09
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Arnold next to 5-8 Don Johnson. Looks NOTHING 6-2. 6-0 MAX, could be less. Guy says on 1/Nov/09
That photo of Arnold with Cameron is interesting and anyone could draw conclusions from it. But if you notice in this photo...
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...it is obviously taken from the same night as they are wearing the same cloths. This photo has been circulating around for some time and of course ignored entirely by Metric. So, sorry buddy, but a simple cross reference from the same night function cancels out your latest attempt. And if you want to dispute which photo is better, obviously for you the one where Arnold looks shortest will always be best.
Look at it this way, Arnold has a pretty big head, but Cameron would appear to have an enormous noggin IN YOUR photo when compared to Arnold's. This is a strong indicator that Cameron is standing much closer to the camera. The other guy in the photo must have a very unusually large head if we were to take it at face value. But you seem to lack the ability, either cognitively or by selective choice, to make such observations. So this photo...
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...which is very balanced and not distorted is the clear winner for comparison. Cameron and Arnold look about the same height. NUFF SAID!! Lucio says on 1/Nov/09
Metric, we are the usual.
The photos in question is a freak like this
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Anyone would tell you that something doesn't come back, because just look at the difference between the waist of Arnold and those to Cameron to understand that this is a graphic elaboration.
Arnold has always had long legs, while here he seems to be a dwarf, come on!
too Metric you would notice that the strangeness is macroscopic if you were objective, but since you're a troll makes you comfortable don't to notice!
Simple.
For me the issue of this photos ends here. Metric says on 1/Nov/09
Henk82 - Didnīt you see the Twitpic I posted some while ago??? Arn was wearing MEGA munsters on that one! It was obvious. Brian says on 1/Nov/09
Metric, it seems that whenever someone finds evidence that Arnold is his stated height, you just say that he is wearing lifts or that the celebrity he is standing next to is shorter than they were actually confirmed as being without any evidence whatsoever, but when someone finds evidence that Arnold is closer to your idea, you don't even consider the possibility that he is slouching or the person next to him is wearing lifts. Why is this? Your little ungrounded excuses are the reason this argument never gets anywhere.
Anyway, the link has been posted before where Arnold says that he's gone from 6'1.75" to 6'1", as measured by another person (His daughter) and confirmed by an unbiased third party (The journalist). Heightcritique and Lucio have also presented plenty of visual proof that Arnold is still 6'1", so what's the issue here? Henk82 says on 1/Nov/09
Metric: It may be a bad photo also, out of a thousand pics of Arnold he looks 6.1-2 on all, expect 10 or so. If arnold is wearing lifts(iīve never seen any suspicious footwear on him)then he must have been doing it even since 1969. I have read his ex girlfriends book, barbara outland baker, where she has published several private photographs of Arnold and her from the late 60s, and he looks more then a head taller then her, and she mentions she is 5.3(160 cm)
I even have her on facebook and she says he was 6.1-6.2 but have shrunk a little now.
Arnold could never wear 3 inches lifts and get away with it, cuz his legs are already natural Very long! He would look like a freak on stilts. Danimal says on 1/Nov/09
Metric says on 1/Nov/09
Henk82: Lifts. Need I say more??
Troll, need I say more?? Ace says on 1/Nov/09
One photo is hardly definitive Metric. Metric says on 1/Nov/09
Henk82: Lifts. Need I say more?? Henk82 says on 1/Nov/09
Metric: Thats the shortest iīve ever seen Arnold, lol he looks 5.10 on that pic.
So weird, iīve seen 10 pics of Cameron and Arnie where they look the same height, or arnold a little shorter like 6.1
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James Cameron is a legit 6-2. NUFF SAID!! Anonymous says on 31/Oct/09
no, Arnold is 6'1". Guy says on 31/Oct/09
Ali says on 26/Oct/09
Arnold was under 6 foot even in his prime.
Clinton was never any taller than 6'1.
Eastwood was never 6'4. More like 6'2-6'3.
Then prove it! You are inventing things. You have NEVER backed your idiot claims up ever! We ALKL know you lower the heights of those to be compared to Arnold. That show's you have an agenda. Anonymous says on 31/Oct/09
He's closer to the camera and his hair is makin him taller. And The Rock is 6,3. So Arnold looks about 5-11. McBain says on 30/Oct/09
Arnold is 6'2" people come on why are we even arguing about this? Lucio says on 30/Oct/09
John J says on 30/Oct/09
Arnold is tall 6' 2" (1.88 m).
In a picture together Dwayne Johnson he is almost tall as The Rock that is tall 6' 4" (1.93 m) . Look There this picture dated 2003, when they have plays after the movie "The Rundown":
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John J, the link doesn't work, try it again. derek d says on 30/Oct/09
John J says on 30/Oct/09
Arnold is tall 6' 2" (1.88 m).
In a picture together Dwayne Johnson he is almost tall as The Rock that is tall 6' 4" (1.93 m) . Look There this picture dated 2003, when they have plays after the movie "The Rundown":
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This picture is not good for judging height, Dwayne is bending his head down and is a few inches behind Arnold (notice how Arnold's head is slightly larger in comparison of what it should look next to Dywane's). Still, Arnold looks like a strong solid 6 ft next to the Rock, if not maybe a little more. John J says on 30/Oct/09
Arnold is tall 6' 2" (1.88 m).
In a picture together Dwayne Johnson he is almost tall as The Rock that is tall 6' 4" (1.93 m) . Look There this picture dated 2003, when they have plays after the movie "The Rundown":
Click Here Shaun says on 30/Oct/09
Eastwood was never 6'4. More like 6'2-6'3. WRONG. I have pics of Eastwood barefoot in his biography and he was in the 6'4" range barefoot on the beach as a lifeguard. The proof that he was 6'4" is overwhelming. Trust me. Today he is struggling with 6'1", more like 6'0.5". Heightcritique says on 29/Oct/09
Danimal says on 27/Oct/09
"Heightcritique:...AGAIN, you do realize that this is a recent height, right and yet you're claiming that Arnold is 6'1 3/4"? ... Timeline my friend..."
Danimal: If you really believe in your statement, then you affirm his height at 6'1 1/8" barefoot then. The clip posted by Honner was recent and reliable; it is footage from a professional journalist during a serious interview with the Governor of California. Some people need a picture drawn to get it, but in this case Honner provided actual footage, proof that cannot be dismissed unless you are arguing that the reporting was staged and without integrity? I don't think so...
BTW: If you read my posting carefully, I am not claiming a 6'1 3/4" actual size Governator; recent pictures show that he has lost some height and I am fair and objective to see and recognize that fact. From my personal experience, I have uncles that were 6'3" in their prime and now are 6'2" in old age (6'1" in bad posture; specifically when hunching or in the oldagehump posture as it is commonly known). It is a common fact that height loss is a natural effect of old age. Governator in the Honner clip openly discloses this fact without reservation. But, based on recent evidence mentioned Governator's present height is 6'1 1/8" barefoot and a 6'2" in shoes.
In contrast, Governator's Peak height as shown next to Ferrigno in competition, clearly show a 6'1 3/4" barefoot man and as the clip next to Letterman shows a 6'3" man in shoes. Heightcritique says on 29/Oct/09
Danimal says on 29/Oct/09
The absolute most I can buy for Arnold nowadays is 6'0" max.
Danimal: in the following picture Clint is around the same height as 6'2" Freeman Click Here and next to Governator he is aproximately the same height: Click Here
Do you need subtitles to gauge his height? I think is self-explanatory.
Take into account that Governator is 60+ and has sometimes has bad posture which makes him appear shorter than his actual size, nothing more, nothing less. Google for pictures of him and Clint when both were younger and you'll see the same height difference.
Vegas: the Anonymous post on 29/Oct/09 was from me; forgot to write my profile name. Heightcritique says on 29/Oct/09
Metric says on 27/Oct/09
Heightcritique: Bush is 1000 yrs old in your pathetic picture! He has lost ALOT of height since the vid from 1987 where he was a legit 6-2 and simply TOWERS Arnold!!
You, my sir, are about as biased as they come.
Fanboy.
Metric: any opinion is bias, the only difference is that when is supported by evidence or based on empirical fact, in this case in the form of clips and photos, it becomes not a bias opinion but a fact. In your case, you don't provide a hair of evidence to your outlandish claim of a 5'11" present and 6'00 peak Governator because I think you cannot upload pic or clips to this website, and also because there is no evidence. In your case, you bias opinion is not bias, but insanity. You have seen all the picture and clips posted herein and you have not argue anything of essense against it or provide any shred of evidence to refute it. All you do here is insult, and try to ban people by crying to the editor. I have respect for all opinion when is backed by evidence by in your case I simply think you are here to get attention and nothing more...if someone should be ban from this site is you.
If I was the editor I would consider you a hair below the threshold of tolerance. Do yourself a favor and start posting something and respect others opinions and maybe people here will start at least respecting your opinion. And if I was you I will start treating the editor with a little respect and stop insulting his intelligence. He was intelligent enough to create this site and he is intelligent enough to ban when someone get out of line and threatens his site with profanity, and untolerable disrespect. Hugh 191cm says on 29/Oct/09
6ft0.5 nowadays with good posture. 6ft2 peak Danimal says on 29/Oct/09
The absolute most I can buy for Arnold nowadays is 6'0" max. Anonymous says on 29/Oct/09
Vegas says on 27/Oct/09
Heightcritique; watch the video, that not a 6'1 3/4 man and a 6'2 man, there is a clear 1.5 inches between both men and sorry but posting a photo of a near 90 year old bush sr leaning over doesn't cut it
sly and arnie, no doubt some (those claiming 5'8 barefoot for sly) will say sly is wearing footwear giving him 5 inches here Click Here
Vegas, there is only a slight difference between Bush Sr. and Governator, as is the case between Bush Sr. and Clinton. The pictures have neutral angles and thus reliable.
In regards to Sly, there is about 3 1/2" to 4" difference between the two in the clip you posted, and if you see Sly shoes at 3:03 you can see the slanted sole going upwards and dissapearing on an extra long hem which covers the tall heel of the shoe and possibly lifts therein. There is a picture of those suspicious Sly's shoes under his thread if you want more reference. However, to discuss a 5'9" man next to a 6'1 1/8" man is folly. Look at the post by Conansidekick for further reference. But in general Sly was, is, and never will be taller or as tall as Governator: Click Here Click Here Click Here There is club of fascinators on this subject of 'let's see how tall Sly appears next to Terminator in lifts', but I am not one of them, sorry.
As far as the outlandish claims that Governator is not 6'1 1/8" presently, one only needs to compare Bruce Willis who is a tad below 6' next to Governator: Click Here and since we are on the subject, also Sly's actual size at 5'9" without enhanced footwear. ACG says on 28/Oct/09
Wow....Metric. IT WAS A JOKE.
Why don't you go on just about any popular internet forum and post about how beautiful you think Arnold's kids are.
While slightly weird and creepy, some joker with a good sense of humor is bound to make a "To Catch A Predator" reference- in good strides.
My only mistake in this manner was failing to remember it was you, Metric, whom I was dealing with- a mentally slow stick-in-the-mud who wouldn't understand any sort of such joke.
tbh, I believe that you actually may not be *THAT* dim, and you're merely over exaggerating how offended you are in an attempt to get Rob to ban me.
This is most likely part of your vendetta against people like me; you have requested Rob ban me in the past for defending glenn. Hell- you've asked him to give me the boot because I suggested Tom Cruise could be over 5'8".
No wonder everybody here makes fun of you and how ridiculous you are.... Elizabeth says on 28/Oct/09
I would believe Vince Basile - know him for nearly 30yrs Metric says on 28/Oct/09
Only someone with your SICK SICK SICK desires could misunderstand what I said, ACG. If I lived in US I would have reported your a** to the authorities already!! I donīt even wanna know what you store on your computer???
This is too much, Rob. We canīt have someone like that on here. Metric says on 28/Oct/09
ACG - Your implications with that pic of Chris Hansen just shows your DISGUSTING way of thinking!!!!
Until now I thought you were only demented??? But now I see that you are also a VERY SICK and TWISTED person. Seek medical help IMMEDIATELY before your sick desires make you molest and abuse someone!
Rob, I think a BAN for this little MISFIT is in order?... Vegas says on 27/Oct/09
Heightcritique; watch the video, that not a 6'1 3/4 man and a 6'2 man, there is a clear 1.5 inches between both men and sorry but posting a photo of a near 90 year old bush sr leaning over doesn't cut it
sly and arnie, no doubt some (those claiming 5'8 barefoot for sly) will say sly is wearing footwear giving him 5 inches here Click Here ACG says on 27/Oct/09
Metric says on 25/Oct/09
Lol. NO WAY is Christine Schwarzenegger 6-3 (!!). She is most likely 5-11 maybe 6-0 max. If she is 6-0 that would explain how she looks taller than her 5-11 dad. BTW I donīt understand why people say she is so ugly. I think Arnold has beautiful children.
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Seriously, though Christina S. could very well be 6'3. To look taller than her dad when she was in ballet slippers and he was in possibly lifted boots is a very 6'3ish characteristic. lol Heightcritique says on 27/Oct/09
Metric says on 25/Oct/09
"...I think Arnold has beautiful children..."
Metric: for once I agree with you on something. With due respect to Governator, his daughters are beautiful as is his elegant and pretty wife Maria: Click Here Click Here
In regards to your other comment, Governator is taller than both his daughters: Click Here This picture was already posted so why can't you register it in your head?
On the same note, why don't you allow a fact to be processed in your underdeveloped and subnormal miniature peanut you call your brain: Governator is 6'1" barefoot and close to 6'2" in shoes. The obvious question is begging to be asked: are you retarded? AustrianOak says on 27/Oct/09
people that's enough. I am 6'2" not 6'0". Come on everybody knows that. And I did not shrink, it's a lie! Danimal says on 27/Oct/09
Heightcritique says on 23/Oct/09
Vegas says on 22/Oct/09
at last found it, i was a strong believer or a 6'1+ arnie before i saw this on tv, its from 1987, a 6'2 listed george bush senior at 68 years old and a 39 year old arnie, forget 6'2 for arnie anymore, 6'1 is probably too tall now too, i think 6'0.5 for a peak arnie is fair based on this, fast forward to 4mins 30 seconds Click Here
Vegas, do you need subtitles:
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As claim, Governator 6'1 3/4" next to 6'2" George Bush Sr.
AGAIN, you do realize that this is a recent height, right and yet you're claiming that Arnold is 6'1 3/4"? Are you the guy that said a David Letterman clip from 1989 was recent? Timeline my friend. It is there for a reason to be used in numerical order. Heightcritique says on 27/Oct/09
derek d says on 24/Oct/09
"...That picture with Clint is a tricky one, he is actually a fraction taller than Arnold if you look closely. Don't count Arnold's hair and also notice how Clint's forehead is noticeably longer. Ford may be as low as 5'11.5 now a days but I do agree Arnold probably is still at least 6 ft."
Derek: there is a horizontal white line on the background behind their heads that you can use to compare the top of their heads Click Here
, and if you follow it across their heads you'll notice that Governator is slightly taller.
Here are a couple of more pictures for comparison which shows Governator at same height and slightly taller than Clint:
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As far as Clint's present height, he is around 6'2" in good posture and 6'1" in bad posture. Next to 6'2" Freeman he looks approximatelly the same height: Click Here Sam says on 27/Oct/09
Man!! Arnold is shrinking. I would give him 6ft 0.5 in. ..I had always though he was 6 ft 2 in. Oh well....HOLLYWOOD Metric says on 27/Oct/09
Heightcritique: Bush is 1000 yrs old in your pathetic picture! He has lost ALOT of height since the vid from 1987 where he was a legit 6-2 and simply TOWERS Arnold!!
You, my sir, are about as biased as they come.
Fanboy. Heightcritique says on 27/Oct/09
6'2" Bush Sr. is only slightly taller than 6'1 3/4" Governator: Click Here
And as it was mentioned formerly and similarly, the same difference appears between 6'2" Clinton and Bush Sr. as well: Click Here Click Here Click Here Ali says on 26/Oct/09
Arnold was under 6 foot even in his prime.
Clinton was never any taller than 6'1.
Eastwood was never 6'4. More like 6'2-6'3. Metric says on 25/Oct/09
Lol. NO WAY is Christine Schwarzenegger 6-3 (!!). She is most likely 5-11 maybe 6-0 max. If she is 6-0 that would explain how she looks taller than her 5-11 dad. BTW I donīt understand why people say she is so ugly. I think Arnold has beautiful children. I just donīt hope she has inherited Maria Shrivers incredible shrill and annoying voice!?? Thatīs one thing I respect Arnold for: That he has been able to put up with listening to that voice for 30 yrs + now. Thatīs a feat unto itself. duder says on 25/Oct/09
He was 6'2" when he was 18, he did massive weight lifting and that would definitely compress you permanently if you do it so much. That along with him being 60+ years old now makes him most likely 6' give or take a .5 Anonymous says on 25/Oct/09
his 16 year old daughter Christine is taller than him, so she must be at least 6'3". Math says on 25/Oct/09
Arnold was never a 6.2 Guy BAREFEET.
He was 6'1.5" at maximun height barefeet.
Then it all go down... to whathever he is today derek d says on 24/Oct/09
Heightcritique says on 22/Oct/09
Governator at 60+ years old next to his contemporaries Clint Eastwood and Harrison Ford has kept his height well:
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Compared to Clint at 6'1" (6'3" peak), and Ford at 6'0" (6'1" peak), Governator is around 6'1" barefoot and 6'2" in shoes in good posture now a days.
That picture with Clint is a tricky one, he is actually a fraction taller than Arnold if you look closely. Don't count Arnold's hair and also notice how Clint's forehead is noticeably longer. Ford may be as low as 5'11.5 now a days but I do agree Arnold probably is still at least 6 ft. Mike says on 24/Oct/09
Arnold can be equal/lil shorter/taller then pres Clinton (6'1??) Arnold is a bit shorter then Obama (peak Arnold would prolly have him) Arnold is even or an inch taller then Blair (6) Arnold is even or a hair shorter then Tom Arnold (6'1) Arnold is easy 2 inches taller then Willis (5'11 maybe 6 no way 6'1) Arnold is 1 to 3 inches on Sly depending on day and Sly's shoes (we dont know Sly peak height with lifts ...6 maybe??)Arnold is even or inch taller then Eastwood (6 to 6'1 currently) Arnold is taller then Harrison Ford (5'11 or 6), Bronstein said Arnold was 6'1, but they do look similiar in height (6) In conclusion in most pics Arnold looks easy 6 occasionally 6'1 plus hes prolly 6 even JT says on 24/Oct/09
He looks under 6'1" in that video Click Here Vegas, but I don't think it's enough to rule out Arnold at 6'1". The camera angle is on Pres. Bush's side. Plus Bush could have been a strong 6'2" as he usually looked taller next to others listed at 6'2", such as Bill Clinton.
This is probably the best evidence for those claiming Arnold (in 1983) is at or even under 6'0", as it sure looks like 7'1" tops Wilt dwarfs him by more than one foot. Click Here It's only one photo but Wilt has mocassins on and a wide stance and Arnold's boots have a heel on them. Click Here Heightcritique says on 23/Oct/09
Vegas says on 22/Oct/09
at last found it, i was a strong believer or a 6'1+ arnie before i saw this on tv, its from 1987, a 6'2 listed george bush senior at 68 years old and a 39 year old arnie, forget 6'2 for arnie anymore, 6'1 is probably too tall now too, i think 6'0.5 for a peak arnie is fair based on this, fast forward to 4mins 30 seconds Click Here
Vegas, do you need subtitles:
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As claim, Governator 6'1 3/4" next to 6'2" George Bush Sr. Heightcritique says on 23/Oct/09
Metric says on 22/Oct/09
Guy - Arnold IS reading this page! Iīm sure one of you three stooges; Yourself (Guy), Heightcritique or GeorgeStrombo is Arnold himself! He is sitting in the Govenors office all day long posting on this site trying to convince everyone he is still 6-2.
Lol.
Let it go, Arnie. You were NEVER that tall!!
Governator, if you are reading this page I think I know who Metric is. He is a T-girl Dannish dwarf bodybuilder who holds a grudge against you because he was not allowed to compete against you in Mr. Olympia. In any case, he/she is a loser who has dilusional fantasies that you rather read his moron lines instead of running a State. Why don't you send your pal Lou to give him a couple of head scones? Heightcritique says on 23/Oct/09
Metric says on 23/Oct/09
Oh, man! Listen to this!
Click Here
Right at the beginning they say Arnold was 6-0 PRIME!
EAT THIS ALL YOU FANBOYS!! Lol.
[Editor Rob: it was mentioning him as 6ft 15 year old...]
Editor Rob, this can only mean two things: Metric the moron has an auditory subnormality (in addition to the peanut he calls his brain), or (2) he has a developmental disorder and did not grow after 15 years old....no wonder he is so furious with Governator since he represents what he can never be. Heightcritique says on 23/Oct/09
Danimal: In regards to Clint, I find it hard to believe that a 6'4" man can loose 3" in old age. Unless Clint had a vertebrae removed I don't think that is possible but I read an article a long time ago that he had a series of surgeries on his back so maybe that is the reason. He was probably 6'4" at peak but I am not convinced since he wore boots in most movies. Clint next to 6'3" Heston he does look 6'4" so maybe you are right if he is not wearing boots: Click Here
Now, your claim that Clint's present height is now only 6' will place Ford at 5'11" and that is not possible. Clint is 6'1" now and Ford is a legit 6'0 now (if you want to argue this look at this pic of Ford next to 6'2" Connery: Click Here). But going to the main topic, those photos for reference and comparison indicate a 6'1" Governator.
As far as Arnold, all the pictures of him in competition next to 6'0 competitors clearly shows an average of 2" difference, so I believe Governator's admission based on the empirical evidence in the form of multiple photos and clips posted herein that he was 6'1 3/4" tall in his prime. As far as his present height, the clip posted by Honner on 22/Sep/09 closes the debate beyond a reasonable doubt on Governator's present height at 6' 1 1/8". Notice that the 6' 1 1/8" was reported and physically verified on film by a prestigious newscaster whose reputation is at stake during a serious political interview with the Governor of California. Lucio says on 23/Oct/09
Metric says on 22/Oct/09
Jeff is in regular dress shoes? Still Jeff is clearly taller than Arnold. Look at the distance from the top of their hair to the top frame of the pic. Jeff looks taller.
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Metric, if you want to tell you that Arnold in this scene looks shorter than Bridges if this can make you feel better, but neither I, neither you nor anyone else we know is not true.
Then come on! Saying that the Bridges hair are closer to the image frame of those of Arnold is something so obvious that even an moron would know to give you an answer.
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In this shot, Arnold looks taller than Bridges
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In that as well
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Yet in this
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If you want i can go on, but doesn't seem the case.
Metric says on 23/Oct/09
Oh, man! Listen to this!
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Right at the beginning they say Arnold was 6-0 PRIME!
EAT THIS ALL YOU FANBOYS!! Lol.
[Editor Rob: it was mentioning him as 6ft 15 year old...]
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Metric, you're so caught up in the heat of your enthusiasm against Arnold that you don't even listened well the video and you doing correct even from Rob.
Shacking my head ...
Lynn, on the fact of listen, the speech is also true for you ...
Lynn says on 23/Oct/09
Vegas,
good find. As I am saying since 2006 Arnold was 183-184 cm ( 6'.05" ) peak.
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Metric, Lynn, before speaking of Arnold rinse your mouth.
Because here, dulcis in fundo, two other frames that I have taken, not by chance, for last since they are what I call "the queen proof of the height of Arnold."
In the first we see Arnold is rubbed oil on his hips girdling with his own arms and arching his back
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The second, which is the most important, we see Arnold in BAREFOOT with his back completely upright in perfect posture, be to the SAME HEIGHT of Bridges WITH SHOES, thus EXACTLY 6'1.5" (186.69 cm.)!!!
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Metric, NO MAGIC SHOES, here, NO INVISIBLE LIFTS, NO CAMERA ANGLE, NO "STILETTO POSE" lol, Arnold simply BAREFOOT!
If here you see again Bridges taller than Arnold, then I'm Santa Claus! Guy says on 23/Oct/09
Metric says on 23/Oct/09
Oh, man! Listen to this!
Click Here
Right at the beginning they say Arnold was 6-0 PRIME!
EAT THIS ALL YOU FANBOYS!! Lol.
Yet again, Metric deceitfully omits important details in evidence, then dances around like he's just cleaned up. What does that tell about someone who only can feel they can win an argument by cheating. Metric has absolutely NO credible evidence to back him up. Any ordinary intelligent person might question their beliefs when faced with that. It goes to show that Metric has a bizarre deep emotional hating obsession with Arnold as a man. He lives in a fantasy world where evidence that omits very important details (that would invalidate his claim) are consistently used. His last two proposals are well in line with this kind of thinking. Arnold doesn't look 6'1.5" next Jeff Bridges in Stay hungry. He forgets to mention Arnold is barefoot and Bridges is in shoes. Ah, yes. Forgot. Now his last post reveals further the typical troll he is by omitting that Arnold was 6'.....at age 15. Thank you Rob for stepping in and bitch slapping this kid. He has no respect for any of us at this level. It's obvious you read his last ranting and thought what we've all thought for some time. WTF is this guy saying!?! RisingForce says on 23/Oct/09
I agree Danimal, the man was defintley 6'1.5"/6'1.75" peak, basically as tall as he claimed. Danimal says on 23/Oct/09
Heightcritique says on 22/Oct/09
Governator at 60+ years old next to his contemporaries Clint Eastwood and Harrison Ford has kept his height well:
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Compared to Clint at 6'1" (6'3" peak), and Ford at 6'0" (6'1" peak), Governator is around 6'1" barefoot and 6'2" in shoes in good posture now a days.
So, you just feel like going with Ford's peak height of 6'1", but knock an inch off of Clint's peak height?? Furthermore, Clint is a FLAT 6'0" IF THAT and so is Arnold. Danimal says on 23/Oct/09
Vegas, go on getbig.com, or ironage.us and ask to speak to Vince Basile. He WILL respond to your email. He was around Arnold since the 1960's. A friend of the Weider's and one of the most well respected competitor and later official and esteemed expert of the sport of bodybuilding. Her NEVER liked Arnold as a person. He found him cocky, arrogant and annoying. He was there at the 1980 Mr. Olympia and he was on Mike Mentzer's side when Mike challenged Arnold into a fight backstage. Anyways, Vince CHALLENGED Arnold's 6'2" listing and Arnold AGREED to be measured (just like GLENN DID) and so Vince had Arnold take off his shoes and measured him at 6'1.5".
SO NO, Arnold was not only 6'0.5" at his peak. If he was, then Lou Ferrigno was an inch shorter too. Lynn says on 23/Oct/09
Vegas,
good find. As I am saying since 2006 Arnold was 183-184 cm ( 6'.05" ) peak. Metric says on 23/Oct/09
Oh, man! Listen to this!
Click Here
Right at the beginning they say Arnold was 6-0 PRIME!
EAT THIS ALL YOU FANBOYS!! Lol.
[Editor Rob: it was mentioning him as 6ft 15 year old...] Metric says on 23/Oct/09
Wow. GREAT find, Vegas! Heightcritique says on 22/Oct/09
Governator at 60+ years old next to his contemporaries Clint Eastwood and Harrison Ford has kept his height well:
Click Here Click Here Click Here
Compared to Clint at 6'1" (6'3" peak), and Ford at 6'0" (6'1" peak), Governator is around 6'1" barefoot and 6'2" in shoes in good posture now a days. Heightcritique says on 22/Oct/09
Metric says on 21/Oct/09
Heightcritique: Arnold is NOT taller than Jeff Bridges in ONE SINGLE SCENE in Stay Hungry!!! You pick some RETARDED pic where neither shoes nor ground is visible. Your claim is so plain STUPID and UNTRUE that you should be BANNED forever from this thread!!! You drag this debate down to a delusional state with such comments.
Leave this site, please.
You have NO business here.
Metric: I see that is that time of the month again...why don't you take some medication for your PMS and don't forget to take the pill for your Tourette also. Governator is 6'2" in shoes, and is taller than Bridges when he is in shoes. I think everybody here is tired of outlandish claims. I see that you do not have any pride left so all you have is jealous and resentment against this successful man who you fantasize with your detestable freakish boyfriends who join you in this thread.
Why don't go back to the bowling alley and stay there. You are a moron and whatever history you have with Governator you should give it a rest. He is a better man than you and you are a loser. And if you have any nuts below your skirt, stop being a queen and begging for sympathy and discuss facts like a man or find another mean and venue to vent your closet issues. Vegas says on 22/Oct/09
at last found it, i was a strong believer or a 6'1+ arnie before i saw this on tv, its from 1987, a 6'2 listed george bush senior at 68 years old and a 39 year old arnie, forget 6'2 for arnie anymore, 6'1 is probably too tall now too, i think 6'0.5 for a peak arnie is fair based on this, fast forward to 4mins 30 seconds Click Here Metric says on 22/Oct/09
Henk82: Go drink your swedish beer and leave discussion for the ADULTS! Metric says on 22/Oct/09
Guy - Arnold IS reading this page! Iīm sure one of you three stooges; Yourself (Guy), Heightcritique or GeorgeStrombo is Arnold himself! He is sitting in the Govenors office all day long posting on this site trying to convince everyone he is still 6-2.
Lol.
Let it go, Arnie. You were NEVER that tall!! Metric says on 22/Oct/09
Your last pic is just pathetic, Lucio. Bridges is cowering in a corner ridiculously bent down and you are trying to use it as proof of Arnolds height??? Too retarded, man. Really below your standards. In fact I wonīt even comment further on that. Thatīs how dumb it is.
As for the other pics they are from the party scene. I seem to remember Arnold is wearing some big as* cowboy style boots in this scene??
Jeff is in regular dress shoes? Still Jeff is clearly taller than Arnold. Look at the distance from the top of their hair to the top frame of the pic. Jeff looks taller.
Also it seems that Arnold is closer to the camera. This could very well be a fact due to the cameramans attempt to make Arnold look even BIGGER than he did IRL. Remember that the Joe Santo character is supposed to be a truly HULKING dude and at a measly 210 lbs Arnold just wasnīt that big in this movie. I would almost have to go out on a limb here and say that they probably used camera tricks to make Arnold appear more intimidating. I know initially the director wanted him to lose weight for the part but I think they realized (too late) that he was too small to be convincing as a larger than life bodybuilder.
So they used camera tricks.
This is also the scene where Arnold intimidates a redneck by his sheer size. Well I donīt know anyone who would be awe struck by a 210 lbs guy in my social scene. But if you use camera tricks to make him look 280 lbs for this particular scene, then yes it makes alot more sense. This is also why I suspect Arnold is wearing possible lifts in this scene.
I know Iīm gonna get NUCLEAR heat for saying this so bring it on! Lol. Anon says on 22/Oct/09
Reeve was a super sloucher - Click Here - He was slouching down to 6'2" there. Looks like he snuck in between the two guys at the last second to get the picture. Manute on the other hand is erect as a tree. I doubt Arnold ever wore lifts. Reeve is standing much straighter in the pic of them in the 70's which is why he looked 3 inches taller there and only half an inch taller in this pic. Lucio says on 22/Oct/09
Metric says on 21/Oct/09
Watch Stay Hungry. That is NOT a 6-1 man!! He was/is WELL below this number.
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Metric, honestly i do not understand how you can say this if not for a troll matter!
In fact with all my good intentions i just can't see Arnold shorter than Bridges in these pictures:
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Moreover, Bridges has also the advantage to a better posture than Arnold which has a more relaxed posture therefore not completely straight.
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Metric says on 20/Oct/09
Stay Hungry is probably the single best movie for judging young Arnolds prime height. He plays opposite a major star whose height is well known. NOWHERE in the move does Arnold look ANYWHERE near 6-1 Jeff Bridges. He consistantly looks 6-0 throughout the entire movie....
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Even this claim is completely contradicted by the two pictures i posted above.
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Metric says on 21/Oct/09
Heightcritique: Arnold is NOT taller than Jeff Bridges in ONE SINGLE SCENE in Stay Hungry!!! ....
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Another claim is completely contradicted:
Click Here Metric, in order to avoid other fool, i suggest you look better things. Peter says on 22/Oct/09
and my uncle knows him too ; he told me that he was 187-188 cm in 80's Henk82 says on 22/Oct/09
Guy: Yeah, Metric truly forgot that arnold were barefoot in Stay Hungry and with shoes they would be about the same height(+/- 1 cm) The aggresive dane must have some kind of agenda towards Arnold. JAK says on 22/Oct/09
It's likely that Jeff Bridges was 6'2 when Stay Hungry was filmed. And when combined with the fact he was wearing shoes, which typically would have had big heels in the '70's, then its no wonder that 6'1.5 Arnold looked shorter next to him barefoot. Anonymous says on 22/Oct/09
he was 6'2" in that movie with bridges because he was only slightly shorter and bridges was in shoes and bridges was 6'2". He's probably 6'1" now. He's noticibly shorter than his 15 year old daughter christina who is at least 6'2" barefoot. In this photo Click Here she's just as tall as him only he's standing straight up and she's stooping and he's in high heeled dress shoes and she's in no heeled vans.
In this photo Click Here she's just barely shorter than him but she's in ballet flats and he's in shoes. In this photo Click Here she's taller than him even though she's in ballet flats and he's in his high heeled clogs. alexiel says on 22/Oct/09
my uncle knows him;he told me that he was 182-185 cm in 80's Guy says on 21/Oct/09
Metric says on 20/Oct/09
Stay Hungry is probably the single best movie for judging young Arnolds prime height. He plays opposite a major star whose height is well known. NOWHERE in the move does Arnold look ANYWHERE near 6-1 Jeff Bridges. He consistantly looks 6-0 throughout the entire movie. Also notice how Arnold is painfully aware of this and tilts his head upwards to appear taller whenever he is in a scene with Jeff. In many scenes Arnold even looks 5-11 only. That must be due to camera angles however. 6-0 is the number IMO.
Stay Hungry is the best film for judging for YOU because Arnold is barefoot most of it while Bridges is in shoes. A typical troll like Metric will omit that detail as he parades around in a victory dance. Only Metric deliberately chooses unlikely comparisons that are only fair to his agenda. The only way he can feel he can still be in this thing after months of posting is to cheat. He is a classic cheater. Whether you want to believe Bridges was 6'1" or 6'2" prime, this photo from Lucio shows Arnold looking 6'1"-6'2".
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That's because of what.......? What's that? Yes. Bridges is in shoes and Arnold is barefoot! That's the other part Metric hoped we'd all overlook so he could continue using it to support his claims.
Metric says on 21/Oct/09
Heightcritique: Arnold is NOT taller than Jeff Bridges in ONE SINGLE SCENE in Stay Hungry!!! You pick some RETARDED pic where neither shoes nor ground is visible. Your claim is so plain STUPID and UNTRUE that you should be BANNED forever from this thread!!! You drag this debate down to a delusional state with such comments.
Leave this site, please.
You have NO business here.
Wow! Sounds like someone is very, very, frustrated here. Perhaps he feels this guy seems to always get the best of him whenever he spews his usual garbage. It's a typical frustrated lashing out. The kids who couldn't play together very well in the schoolyard used to do that when their cheating ways didn't work with the other kids. That's all Metric can do these days is pray to Rob to make these people disappear so he rule the page with his own personal agenda. Being so full of himself, he has no clue how he is the one acting clearly the belligerent troll with aggression and name calling. This Metric guy seems to think he can just say what he pleases as it comes into his mind. He has no edit function for content, and yet attempts to play up to Rob that he is the victim of abuse. And all this over someone's height. I wonder what Arnold would think reading this page. kjs86 says on 21/Oct/09
Arnold is no taller than six foot i met him at a lake in Arizona which we were both standing barefoot on a dock and i had two inches on him for sure, and i am 6'2 Metric says on 21/Oct/09
Henk82: Watch the clip again. Bridges has HORRIBLE posture he is not even standing straight. Arnold on the other hand is pulling a Stallone and furthermore tilting his head upwards in a frantic attempt to even out the CONSIDERABLE difference in height. I know Jeff is in shoes but they are very very thin soled. NO WAY Arnold could have been ever 6-2 or even 6-1 judging from this movie. 6-0 is what he appeared. 5-11 today. Henk82 says on 21/Oct/09
Metric: Arnold looks 2-3 cm shorter then bridges when arnold are barefoot and bridges in shoes= Bridges and Arnold are the same height, maybe arnold are 1 cm shorter. Iīve seen the clips myself on youtube.
Arnold is probably 185-186 cm peak.
It weird he is listed 6.1 5/8 in american guinees from 1978 when i read an old swedish version of guiness and he was listed 185 cm. Hmmm Mr. X says on 21/Oct/09
Great! Now I know that he was 187cm. Great! burby says on 21/Oct/09
I don't think he can reach 5'9" in effect, that's the thing. The Sly/G photos are good for conversation, but like the photo with Emile, there is no real explaination, other than you know who is quite (sub 5'6.75") short. The Rome and golf photos with Hopper and Jack are best IMHO. If Emile is only 5'5" flat, then I believe young G might have him by .5" or .75" Metric says on 21/Oct/09
Watch Stay Hungry. That is NOT a 6-1 man!! He was/is WELL below this number. mId says on 21/Oct/09
6'1 for arnold in the day sounds about right. he could be lower but I'm gonna go with 6'1. didn't guinness measure morning and evening and take the average? meaning 6'1 evening height for arnold sounds about right. he don't look taller than 6'1 in his movies my opinion. Metric says on 21/Oct/09
Heightcritique: Arnold is NOT taller than Jeff Bridges in ONE SINGLE SCENE in Stay Hungry!!! You pick some RETARDED pic where neither shoes nor ground is visible. Your claim is so plain STUPID and UNTRUE that you should be BANNED forever from this thread!!! You drag this debate down to a delusional state with such comments.
Leave this site, please.
You have NO business here. Brad says on 20/Oct/09
Young G is a weak 5' 6" tops, most probably under 5' 6". He's a shrimp with Stallone. A 5' 9" in effect Slyster creaming a G means G was under 5' 6" in the early 90's. Anonymous says on 20/Oct/09
the guiness sports record book from 1978 listed arnold as 6'1 5/8"
FYI people.. guinness measured him themselves. Metric says on 20/Oct/09
Stay Hungry is probably the single best movie for judging young Arnolds prime height. He plays opposite a major star whose height is well known. NOWHERE in the move does Arnold look ANYWHERE near 6-1 Jeff Bridges. He consistantly looks 6-0 throughout the entire movie. Also notice how Arnold is painfully aware of this and tilts his head upwards to appear taller whenever he is in a scene with Jeff. In many scenes Arnold even looks 5-11 only. That must be due to camera angles however. 6-0 is the number IMO. Elma says on 20/Oct/09
merry berry ARNOLD has 6'2 in his shoes Heightcritique says on 19/Oct/09
Jeff Bridges by his own admission in the 70s said he was 6'2", and was measured in 2008 at 6'1" so during "Stay Hungry" he was slighly taller maybe at 6'2"+ in shoes. Conan was 6'1 3/4" tall barefoot (per his own admission) and thus the pictures and height differences in "Stay Hungry" when Conan is barefoot makes sense. However, when Conan was in shoes he was taller than Bridges:
Click Here burby says on 18/Oct/09
Sorry about that Rising, if it was young Glenn, 5'6" TOPS. Lenad says on 18/Oct/09
Looked 6ft2ish in predator. But he probably was 6ft1ish at peak Hans says on 17/Oct/09
only 6.1 Arnold is good for food and not good for bananas? derek d says on 16/Oct/09
SkyScrape says on 15/Oct/09
I just watched the old movie "Stay Hungry" with him and Jeff Bridges who you have listed as 6'1 and Jeff was at least 2 or 3 inches taller all throughout the movie! Check it out its weird!
Well Bridges was in shoes in most of those scenes and Arnold was not.
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Still I would imagine him looking taller than he did. Anyone know how much those shoes Bridges wore give? Lucio says on 16/Oct/09
Oh Metric, how long you didn't you hear? Thank goodness because the debate to Arnold height was dramatically still! lol.
This gives me the opportunity to post two videos I extrapolated from "Stay Hungry" which were on my computer desktop for some time and now finally i've got the chance.
Here they are.
Arnold barefoot Vs. Bridges with shoes:
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Arnold Vs. 6ft Ken Waller:
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And here's another screenshot of Bridges in shoes and Arnold barefoot where we can appreciate about 2.5 / 3 cm. difference as shown by the lines I outlined at the top of their heads.
Click Here RisingForce says on 16/Oct/09
Well, you're correct about Arnold atleast, Burby. RisingForce says on 16/Oct/09
Brad, you didn't answer my question. If you go with lows then you should admit that Arnold was under 6'2" peak because he measured as low as 6'1.5". bam says on 15/Oct/09
isnt it weird that his whole body looks shorter today than before? He clearly lost close to 2 if not 2 inches. TELLEM says on 15/Oct/09
jeff bridges and arnie from "stay hungry" Click Here they look the same height. Metric says on 15/Oct/09
Yes, Bridges was clearly taller than Arnold throughout the movie. SkyScrape says on 15/Oct/09
I just watched the old movie "Stay Hungry" with him and Jeff Bridges who you have listed as 6'1 and Jeff was at least 2 or 3 inches taller all throughout the movie! Check it out its weird! Brad says on 15/Oct/09
Peak at 6' 2" is correct. Glenn was a stone joke listed at 5' 8" under himself with Arnold when I got to this site. I doubt Glenn was over 5' 6" in that shot. He admitted 5' 7" so 5' 6" is accurate. burby says on 14/Oct/09
True Rising, as I stated before:
Arnold: Weak 6'2" peak, 6' on and off currently.....
Glenn: 5'6.5" Conansidekick says on 14/Oct/09
I remenbered my master asking me "Conansidekick, what is best in life?" I responded: "To see my enemies humiliated in disbelief, and to hear the lamentations of their nuts." (watch at 4:40) Click Here
No descendant of Crom is below 6'1" infidels! Click Here Metric says on 14/Oct/09
How can Arnold have been 6-2+ when he looked exactly 6-0 next to 5-6 (young) Glenn??? RisingForce says on 14/Oct/09
Brad, I thought you went with someone's lowest height? Well it's been documented that Arnold was as low as 6'1.5". So it's hypocritical for you to say he wasn't under 6'2" since he measured that low. If you're going to insist on using Glenn's absolute lowest height then you should atleast be consistent. Brad says on 14/Oct/09
He was 6' 2"+ in Predator. He was a freaking building in that film with boots and camera angles. The guy was at least 6' 3" in dress shoes 1 foot from me in the early 90's. Anything below 6' 2" peak is a farce. He's a height mess now with slouching, body building at older age chemical reactions. Just ask Superstar Billy Graham what happened to him after all those years building up, his height collapsed. Danimal says on 13/Oct/09
5'11.5"-6'0" today. TELLEM says on 13/Oct/09
those pics aren't good lucio. the only good ones are the last two, where arnold is standing straighter than blair. arnold is 5'11.5 these days. Hugh 191cm says on 13/Oct/09
5ft11ish with Bad posture. maximus says on 13/Oct/09
It can be difficult to tell sometimes true height. I have known people who, when they actually stood up straight, seemed to increase their height an easy 1"...but looking at them, for example, you might think they are 6'...but they are actually 6'1"....posture is important. A person who is 6' can appear to be 5'10 1/2 to 5'11 with bad posture. Lucio says on 12/Oct/09
TELLEM says on 12/Oct/09
bad posture 6'0? what pictures were you looking at? because the pics i was looking at showed arnold in great posture even w/ a terribly postured 6'0 blair.
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I refer in particular to these photos:
those in bad posture Click Here Click Here
those in good posture
Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Yes Arnold seems more straight next to Blair, but CERTAINLY Blair is not in a slouching position! Conansidekick says on 12/Oct/09
In all the pictures with Blair Conan is .5" to an 1" taller. It is difficult to see an inch difference between a six footer and a six one since the slighest bad angle or bad posture can distort their height. The camera is not a magical and precise instrument so a bad angle or a bad posture can distort a 6'1" next to 6' Blair (who happens to have good posture - the chap is and ex-royal navy officer I think). Doubts? Look at the picture of Blair next to Clinton and Obama then. Blair looks slighly shorter and the same height next to a 6'2" peak Clinton and looks only half an inch shorter than 6'1.25" Obama which shows my point. In all the pictures posted Conan is taller than Blair so he cannot be 6", he is 6'1".
For reference, 6' = 1.83 meters so whoever is arguing that height for Conan after all the evidence posted here needs a serious eye exam and is a candidate for exile to the lands of the Bulgars. Clark says on 12/Oct/09
I remember that scene with LOU and John L. Lou was barefoot. TELLEM says on 12/Oct/09
bad posture 6'0? what pictures were you looking at? because the pics i was looking at showed arnold in great posture even w/ a terribly postured 6'0 blair. Lucio says on 12/Oct/09
Well, it seems to me that, thanks to the countless photographics contributions made recently by us all and indirect comparisons between Clinton and Obama and between Blair and Obama, we have reached a conclusion that, without fear of to be contradiction, in bad posture Arnold is 6'0" in good posture is a full 6'1" barefoot.
Therefore i would say that the height at the top of the page could easily be extended to a middle way that is 6'.05". Rob G says on 11/Oct/09
Hugh 191cm says on 8/Oct/09
182cm is ridiculous. He's clearly taller than that. 184cm is probably is height now. 6ft2ish peak.
182 cm is not ridiculous at all, though it would be close to the lowest possible height he is today. Peak about 6'2" for sure. Guy says on 10/Oct/09
Ace says on 8/Oct/09
To be fair Guy, while I strongly disagree with Metric about Arnold's peak, and i cannot understand why many of the photos where arnold looks blatantly 6`2 don't seem to sway him, but he seems to genuinely believe what he says, whereas Ali's statements just seem to as you say: Trollish!
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I think Ali honestly also believes his claim as well. Both Ali and Metric are very similar in that regard. Both hold on to their beliefs entirely from an emotional level. It is quite obvious that is the case. Ali claimed he himself is 5'10 1/2". I think he heard the rumor years ago that it was suspected Arnold was only in fact 5'10". I think he's held out in a fantasy world ever since where this bigger than life action hero would actually look up to him. It's the decision to either face the facts and overwhelming evidence why this is wrong, or shatter his dreams and ego. For many people logic doesn't rule their reasoning. There are many people who still believe the universe is only 4000 years old or that star constellations trillions of miles away govern our lives. Those people aren't interested in the facts and evidence of why they're wrong if it means accepting a dark empty nothingness in it's place. Both Ali and Metric have strong personal affinities to their beliefs that prevent them from properly being fair with evidence. It's the epitome of closed mindedness which is why both are classic trolls. Hugh 191cm says on 8/Oct/09
182cm is ridiculous. He's clearly taller than that. 184cm is probably is height now. 6ft2ish peak. Conansidekick says on 8/Oct/09
Dexter, infidel: seen the movie a couple of times and saw a 6'2" Bodybuilder at around 240 lbs looking tall and built next to other actors in the movie. Pause it and compare his height next to 6'4" Bill Duke when they are fighting in the hotel, and next to the General (6'3" James Olson), and he looks 6'2". He is also 5" taller than 5'8" Raw Dawn Chong. Your claim that Arnold is below the 6'2" mark is insane. Watch Predator also he looks 6'2"+ next to other actors. Ace says on 8/Oct/09
To be fair Guy, while I strongly disagree with Metric about Arnold's peak, and i cannot understand why many of the photos where arnold looks blatantly 6`2 don't seem to sway him, but he seems to genuinely believe what he says, whereas Ali's statements just seem to as you say: Trollish! alexiel says on 8/Oct/09
182 cm peak,for sure. Guy says on 7/Oct/09
Ali says on 6/Oct/09
Arnold has always been smaller than 6'0.
He was never tall. 5'10 ish. Face it
Ali is the ultimate troll. I like this definition.
"troll:
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue."
Whether Ali can understand it or not, he is a classic troll. He leaves for several weeks and comes back with this last post. He has never been able to provide any sound evidence for his argument or even put in any effort, so he now just states it on it's own, alone, with no further elaboration. It's laughable that after this time, he comes back with just that empty statement. That's his big comeback.
The definition above also sums up Metrics PR as well. It uncannily predicted Metrics use of the term "fanboy" and his never ending bombardment of straw man arguments. As homework, I'd suggest both read the above definition and explain exactly how their not classic trolls. DEXTER says on 7/Oct/09
Conan side kick:
RENT COMMANDO AND PAUSE IT A COUPLE TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE ARNOLD IN A FULL BODY SHOT AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN. Danimal says on 7/Oct/09
Ali wants a reaction out of you guys. All you're doing is feeding the troll by trying to reason with him. Metric says on 7/Oct/09
JAK - Bodybuilders LIE about numbers ALL THE TIME!!!
If there is ANY sport where lying is an almost compulsory discipline itīs BODYBUILDING!! Conansidekick says on 7/Oct/09
In the movie 'Commando' during the fight in the Shopping Mall, the security guard reports on the radio Arnold's stats to other guards and in his words: "we got a 6'2" guy and he is a big mother......"
Dexter, Isu Alum and Ali: you guys are visually impaired and infidels. I exile you to the land of the Bulgars!
Which one of you is Metric with a new screenname? JAK says on 7/Oct/09
Ali says on 6/Oct/09
Arnold has always been smaller than 6'0.
He was never tall. 5'10 ish. Face it
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Impossible. Arnold was a bodybuilder. A sport that is all about measurements. There is no way he could have gotten away with claiming 6'2 if he wasn't anywhere near, It would be cheating! Lucio says on 7/Oct/09
Ali, please, look what we're not all morons here eh?
I remember well that when i showed you this picture, Click Here you said: "Taller than I expected, not 178 cm as i thought, but i place him in the 179-181 cm range"
Unfortunately your post was already deleted, but you're honest with yourself you'll remember what you wrote. Ali says on 6/Oct/09
Arnold has always been smaller than 6'0.
He was never tall. 5'10 ish. Face it Anonymous says on 6/Oct/09
6'2 rodney rowland looks a good 4 inches taller than him(schwarzenegger) in the 6th day. DEXTER says on 6/Oct/09
Isu alum;
please rent commando and tell me he is 6`2. Mike says on 6/Oct/09
I just atteneded a political event in LA and stood next to the governor as he was leaving. I am 6' 1 1/2" and he was much shorter than me. I didn't look at his shoes to see if he was wearing lifts. But my guess is that he is about 5'10". lsu alum says on 5/Oct/09
Dexter Arnold at 5'10".come on are yo a buffon TELLEM says on 4/Oct/09
Heightcritique says on 2/Oct/09
TELLEM: Unless you are ready to apologize for insulting me and be prepare to engage in civil and objective dialogue, do yourself a favor: refrain from directing comments at me.
LOL AT APOLOGIES. its a height forum on the internet. get over it already. JAK says on 4/Oct/09
Judging from the photos Arnold slouches in casual situations, and stands up straight in formal meetings.
This is why Arnold looks 6'0 or over with other politicians, but looks about 5'11 in street photos. Rugal Bernstein says on 4/Oct/09
Well, on the first pic, Arnold looks only about 2 inches taller and on the second pic he looks 5 inches taller. Well but it isn't a surprize that Sly has an appearance of a big midget with his height of 5'9". I had to laugh when he was fighting Hulk Hogan in a match where Hogan looked almost a foot taller than Sly. Lucio says on 4/Oct/09
Rising, as i said: 4 / 5 cm (about 2 inch) of difference with all the variables necessary, camera angle close to Sly, Sly lifts munster etc. etc.
And despite all these factors to detriment of Arnold, there are still 5 cm. difference in favor of Arnold!
Certainly Rising, not a big difference if taken as is, but a BIG DIFFERENCE if we consider all the factors in Sly favor that i mentioned above.
And remember that two people with 5 cm. difference between them are taken from below, this difference vanishes as in this picture Click Here If we look at this picture what I mean? Click Here
A BIG DIFFERENCE!
Here it seems that Arnold is really a giant, and even the look of Sly seems to confirm it. DEXTER says on 3/Oct/09
Watched Commando a couple of nights ago. I think Arnold struggled with 6`o, more like 5`11. I would not rule out 5`10. There is lots of good shots with his head and feet in the same picture and other people to use as reference. Something that is mysteriously absent in most of his films. Heightcritique says on 3/Oct/09
Since the Blair photos are on the table for analysis then why don't we compare them to these pictures:
6'1.25" Obama next to 6'00" Tony Blair: Click Here Click Here Click Here
Conclusion: President Obama apppears only .5" taller than Blair in both pictures.
6'00" Blair next to 6'1" Bill Clinton: Click Here (angle is slightly in favor of Blair)
Click Here Click Here (neutral angle)
Conclusion: Clinton appears .25" taller than Blair in all the pictures.
Similarly (1) to the Clinton comparison, Governator and Blair at .25" difference Click Here
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Similarly to the Blair and Obama comparison: .5" difference between Governator and Obama Click Here
Overall conclusion: Governator (noted in good posture) is Clinton's same height, slightly shorter than Obama, and taller than Blair, which considering the height of all named places him at 6'1" height. Brian says on 2/Oct/09
I'll take Arnold's word that he has gone from 6'1.75" to 6'1". Look, when you get older, I don't think you care about height as much. Hell, I doubt anyone outside of this site cares about height as much as anyone on these pages does.
Anyway, the only reason I would suspect an aged person is lying about their height is if the claim they haven't lost any height at all, for they're probably in denial that their glory days are over. But the thing is, Arnold isn't doing that, he admits that he has lost almost an inch! If he's willing to admit that, I seriously doubt he cares enough about how tall he is nowadays to act like some 12-year-old obtrusively fudging his height to every peer he meets. Besides, he references his daughter as the one who measured him meaning he has a source to back his claim up, and he still looks 6'1" in the left pick. So, can we please stop saying that Arnold secretly wears lifts, makes sure everyone else is slouching when taking pictures to make himself look taller, pulls any measurement over 6' out of nowhere to throw everyone off, or any other crackpot theories about the Governator's "secret"? Heightcritique says on 2/Oct/09
TELLEM: Unless you are ready to apologize for insulting me and be prepare to engage in civil and objective dialogue, do yourself a favor: refrain from directing comments at me. Heightcritique says on 2/Oct/09
Rising: My participation and interest in this thread is to comment and analyze evidence in order to gauge Governator's actual height at peak and current, not on how a 5'9" in enhanced footwear and distorted camera angles looks next to him. With that in mind, if you know basic photographic concepts which you pretend to know, you would have chosen different photographs to disscuss and based your comparison. But it is obvious that instead you picked the few photos of the series with high and low angles which you conveniently and naively claim to be "good angles" for comparison because they agree with your 1" claim. Conversely, the photos with neutral angles which are better for comparison but do not support your 1" claim you conveniently dismissed as "garbage" which shows not only your lack of objectivity but your unability to choose and discuss sound camera angles and their effects with any level of proficiency .
In addition to what I've already disscuss in detail in my last post which you conveniently did not comment (i.e. how the black stain as a height marker changes dramatically in the pictures you hand picked to support your claim and how you simply don't know how a camera angle obliques or distorts subjects), I want to add three more comments: (1) watch and stop the clip at cut 00:23 which shows a 3" change in height between both men when they stand straight despite the angle of the shot tilted in favor of Sly making him taller (2) Governator and Sly were, are and never will be close in height: Click Here (that is the closest that you will probably see the two men in a full shot photograph at actual peak heights 6'2" and a 5'9" on unquestioned low heel and trainer footwear and in relatively close proximity to each other; clearly 5" difference between the two) and (3) zoom into the picture I've labeled "fake" with a viewer and observe how Governator's arm unnaturally dissapears into the old man's chest, and how the other arm becomes part of Sly's jacket which indicates a bad and poor crop photoshop technique.
One last thing, care to explain your comment: "wow you've sunk to a new low." So according to you what is my old low? Guy says on 2/Oct/09
RisingForce says on 1/Oct/09
Guy, how the hell is a pose like this Click Here better than more normal stances and poses like these? Click Here Click Here
And if you want to mention advantages in the full body shot, how about the fact that Arnold is standing slightly closer to the camera? They're standing close enough to eachother and there isn't a big difference. Full body shots are the best for comparing height. I've posted several other pictures that show the same difference that the full body shots do.
And it's clear that Arnold has better posture than Blair. Arnold is standing in military posture, particularly in the first picture there. Blair is not.
Easy. Sly is closer to the camera just like the other guy across from them.
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In this photo
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I don't see this golden one inch difference. Sly looks 2 inches shorter there. But as the various photos from that night display, a wide variety of impressions can be made from different shots.
To answer your question, a shot like this
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is better because it is a more even shot that doesn't look distorted.
A shot like this
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looks distorted and strange like a zoom lens. It doesn't look right.
For the record, RisingForce, you obviously don't know what military posture is. I suspected it would turn into a war of opinion. You see Arnold standing as perfectly straight as a human can VS Blair hunched and rolled over. Whatever the argument I don't see Arnold perfectly equal with Blair. If they both stood as straight back to back, I would assume Arnold would be a bit taller. RisingForce says on 2/Oct/09
Lucio, in this picture where you said Arnold's back was straight, that's true, but now Sly's head and neck are not straight. Click Here Even with that, the difference is not huge. RisingForce says on 1/Oct/09
Guy, how the hell is a pose like this Click Here better than more normal stances and poses like these? Click Here Click Here
And if you want to mention advantages in the full body shot, how about the fact that Arnold is standing slightly closer to the camera? They're standing close enough to eachother and there isn't a big difference. Full body shots are the best for comparing height. I've posted several other pictures that show the same difference that the full body shots do.
And it's clear that Arnold has better posture than Blair. Arnold is standing in military posture, particularly in the first picture there. Blair is not. TELLEM says on 1/Oct/09
any moron can see that arnold is standing straighter than blair, and blair is in relaxed posture in those photos. Lucio says on 1/Oct/09
Rising looking properly video of the Rambo premiere, I noticed the following aspects: first, the camera angle is slightly in favor of Sly.
Secondly, Arnold and Sly are never still, keep moving, this makes very difficult an accurate assessment of their heights.
Here Arnold leans to his right Click Here Here Arnold looks down and leans back to shake hands with Sly Click Here
Here Arnold raised his head and straightens his back completely Click Here In this other picture, both show good posture by straightening their backs completely. Click Here Here I see about 4 cm. difference in those two pictures, which I think are the best for an objective assessment.
The problem then is not so much how tall is Arnold, but HOW Sly is raised on his MEGA PLATFORMS! Guy says on 1/Oct/09
RisingForce says on 30/Sep/09
But I'll almost always go with full body shots, Guy.
In this picture the angle is just as good as the picture you posted and the difference is similar to the difference in the full body shots I posted. Click Here
Sly is leaning and not looking that much shorter than Arnie who has better posture. Click Here
I respect your opinion, because you did base it on photographic evidence, but I disagree with you based on other photographic evidence.
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I don't think I need to explain my point any more than my last post about it. You seem to have a fascination with Sly appearing at or close to Arnold's height. There are many photos from that series. I think it's strange how you select the one's where Sly looks the tallest as the definitive ones despite criteria. How can this photo be claimed as the perfect photo when both their feet aren't on a level viewing plain.
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Bring Sly a few inches down in the photo and it would be more accurate. If any thing the full body shot reveals this flaw. As I mentioned before, it's also distorted and you can see how short both their legs look because of the high angle shot.
More than 1 inch
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Sly is looking waaay up
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Also you are assuming Arnold has better posture than Blair. It can seem that way because Arnold is taller in those pics. The illusion might make it seem like Arnold is standing very straight compared to Blair because he's taller, but they are both standing very similar.
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Again no real difference. Arnold's head is hung a bit and his shoulders are rolled. I don't see any real difference with Blair.
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Arnold looks almost an inch taller here. If you look closely and without bias, they really are standing very similar. To be generous, I'd give Blair up to max 1/2 inch extra.
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What it comes down to is if Arnold and Blair were exact same height, we would see an even distribution of same height pics and pics where each was a little taller than the other due to posture etc. Instead in just about all Arnold looks taller with a few where they look the same. Blair never looks taller. I don't think posture or footwear are any real factor. With that it's a safe bet that Arnold is a slight bit taller. RisingForce says on 1/Oct/09
Heightcritique, suspicious photos? Look at your first photo which is complete garbage. The second and 3rd photos are obviously tilted a bit in Arnold's favor(and the same photo) and look at how much closer Arnold is in your 4th picture.
This photo is a fake? Click Here HAHAHA, wow you've sunk to a new low. No explanation for that one so you call it a fake? It's on Sly's MSN page under the photo section.
Leveled photo that's not distorted? Look at how much closer to the camera. Arnold is. I might as well post this picture. Click Here
Thank you for posting that video. That confirms the 1" difference I see between them at the premiere. Here are some stills. Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here
You can see that in the 3rd picture where Arnold's head is down Sly can look the same height or taller and in the 4th picture where Sly's head is down Arnold still only has a max of 1.5"-2" on him.
More pictures where they look close in height. Click Here Click Here miko says on 1/Oct/09
I agree with Rising Force, Arnold and Blair were the same height.
Arnold was standing as tall as humanly possible, whilst Blair was standing sloppy. Arnolds shoes were also suspicious and certainly looked to have a bigger heel at the back.
I have no agenda against Arnold like Rising Force doesn't, but the man is not over 6"0 these days. He hasn't looked clearly over 6"0 since the late 90's. |
