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Anonymous says on 4/Jul/09
btw, i forgot to mention that with Dantes, Arnold is shifting all his weight on one leg while bending the other. This causes the hips to lower on one side and the opposite shoulder shifting the opposite direction to compensate. This overall arcs the spine to the side from front view. In short, Arnold is not standing his straightest. If he was he'd prolly look 6-3! Plus Dantes got shoes on! Case closed Ali! Pwned!
Aims says on 3/Jul/09
Arnold rocks! 6'0 is like absolutely perfect for a guy, especially since they shrink as they get older. Ali says on 3/Jul/09
If I think Arnold is 4'9 I'll write it. I did
never call anyone here an idiot. Even if this person
claimed Arnold was 6'3.
If I would come to your house and say Arnold is
this height and you would not like it, you could
call me names. However this is not your home and there
are rules of this forum. So Jonathan, Marc what you writing
is complete nonsense.
What is this nonsense that I am a liar.Jonathan, Marc, did any
of you two guys measure Arnold? NO! You are like me giving
your estimate of Arnold's height.
Did I write Arnold is 177.44cm or something like that? No,
I gave an estimate of his height, which I believe to be
5'10 ish. Did I ever say I measured Arnold or so?
I am not asking you to be nice. I don't care about you. There
are rules about posting here. And calling me things like f****
id*** or a** is against the rules. You understand! Not my rules,
but the rules of this forum. Therefore I asked the moderator Rob
to take some actions to prevent these things from happening in the
future? Is dat wrong in any way?
Marc, I actually like Arnold movies a lot. I don't know anything
about his politics and I don't care. I believe he has always been
5'10 and I have given pictures with explanation to show why
I think that way. So don't come with the ''playing victim'' thing.
I am just asking the moderator to stop the things which are against
the rules here, I am not asking for a special treatment.
Perhaps Marc in your world namecalling/swearing to a person is very normal.
I don't know.
Jonathan what is this nonsense you write about well established and concluded
fact that Arnold was over 6 feet? What are we all doing on this forum? There
is no such thing as fact that Arnold's height was 6feet+ peak. vince Bassile
measurement fact? Not in my book.
I don't care about downgrading Arnold's height. If Arnold was listed as 5'8,
I'd say he was 5'10 ish, he is listed as 6'1.5 peak and again I say I believe
he was 5'10 ish because that is what I really believe. Anyone may disagree, but please keep the filth inside of you(not you personally-in general)
If Arnold would have been over 6 foot, I would never even bother to discuss
his height. But Arnold's height for me is so obviously much less that the 186-187 that I find it ridiculous that he is listed at that height.
Everybody knows that a lot of hollywood heights are bogus; Brad Pitt isn't
5'11; Sly isn't 5'9. Mel Gibson isn't 5'9.5(not even close) and Arnold for me
isn't even close to 6'1.5 and has never been.
I emailed the response from Sarah Douglas(conan movie) in which she says
Arnold was the same height as her. I wrote about it again and it was questioned. So I gave everybody here Sarah Douglas' email address so you guys could ask yourself. Nobody of you guys did.
I showed you the Roland Dantes picture in which Arnold is slight taller, tiptoeing and standing closer to the camera. Immediately a few of you were
no the picture is fake and photoshopped. The picture is real.
I showed you the picture of Arnold with Andre the Giant and Chamberlain
and you could measure yourself(comparing heihgts) that Arnold was under
6 foot without even knowing how much extra height he got from his boots. Jonathan says on 3/Jul/09
Instead of being a cry-baby, look at how belicose and ignorant you sound making ridiculous claims and not listening or registering what everyone else is saying on this board.
You don't like discussing Arnold's height. You like downgrading and downplaying his real height and refusing to accept the well established and concluded fact that he was well over 6 foot in his prime. There are no two ways about it. Marc says on 3/Jul/09
Ali: Look at what you do first before trying to play the "victim" bullsh*t here. You don't discuss. You already rambling and ranting about "2 inches lift" when my close up of Arnold's footwear with minimal heel and shallow top makes it impossible to stuff anything. You downgrade and downplay ignoring everything other people show, prove and deduce. You are a pathalogical liar and a demented dumba**.
I am not a fan of Arnold. I think he s*cks as a politician and needs to be thrown out of California for doing unimaginably foolish things. I don't like many of his movies. However, I am realistic enough to believe the mountains of
You have no reason to be here on this board at all. Even an annoying guy like Metric seems to be half reasonable when it comes to Arnold's prime height. You are the only person on this board that gets ridiculed because you make a complete a** out of yourself by claiming ludicrous things that have absolutely no merit. Yet, you continue to ignore what everyone else says. You don't even realize how big of an a** you look when you make those ludicrous and baseless claims.
Please continue making those ludicrous claims of 5'9" + 3 inches lifts or whatever you make and you will continue make yourself look like an a** without even realizing it. Ali says on 3/Jul/09
Dear editor Rob. I like discussing on this page
about Arnold's height.
People here are calling me names and liar etc... This is
unacceptable. RisingForce says on 3/Jul/09
Arnie does have better posture than Obama who is hunching a bit, but 6 foot seems plausible there for Arnie since Obama is supposedly over 6'1". Lucio says on 3/Jul/09
Roland dantes is officially the Ali hero.
He is the only body builder who has dwarfed Arnold.
This is the only truth.
Case closed. Lucio says on 3/Jul/09
And what would his price Roger?
I find this very interesting.
Metric, the only obvious thing here is your unjustified hatred for Arnold.
You give you the hoe on the foot, before showing me an article on the alleged hip surgery and then the same article that you shows, denies you.
You are so blinded by hatred for Arnold, that you are not be able to see things with lucidity.
But Arnold has done you something personally? Guy says on 3/Jul/09
Good find Marc. So it's safe to say if Arnold wasn't wearing lifts to meet the tall President Obama, there is no better reason for him to do so any other time. That is to say accusing Arnold of wearing lifts can't be acceptable if there is no good reason or proof for it. If there was one time Arnold would wear lifts, it would be meeting 6'1"-6'2" Obama. Arnold really only looks about one inch shorter than Obama here and no more.
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Ali: the Roland Dantes photo is very simple to explain
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Dantes is wearing magic lifts. He's 5'10" + his 2 inch magic shoe lifts = 6'. That's why Arnold is standing on his toes. Dantes wears magic lifts. It's a fact. Case closed. 177cmmm says on 2/Jul/09
Arnold says in his book that when he was like 25 he wrecked his knee Haze says on 2/Jul/09
i think arnie was 6'1.5 max back in the day. today more 5'11.5ish Marc says on 2/Jul/09
Geez. Enough with the lift bullsh*t, Ali! Keep sounding like dumba** idiot
Here is an extreme close-up of Arnold's shoes in his press conference with Obama. The shoes are perfectly normal and have only a tiny heel and a very shallow top:
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Even my shoes have a bigger heel than those shoes Arnold is wearing and they do not give me more than 1 inch boost. Roger says on 2/Jul/09
Lucio is very funny! He's sure Arnold still stand 6'1'', lol!
We do know for sure that Arnold, like everyone who used steroids, has a price to pay. derek d says on 2/Jul/09
Arnold is obviously still pretty height conscious, as he tells that interviewer Bronsien? that he is still 6'1 - 6'1.25( yes, people tend to forget he told that guy that after he stood completely straight after being measured at 6'1 that he gained additional quarter inch.) So Arnold still thinks he's in the 6'1 range when he clearly looks closer to 6 ft nowadays. Yet, we NEVER see Arnold is any kind of lifts, so he can't be THAT height conscious. I mean, he was a body builder for years and has had A LOT of injuries. He's lucky still 6 ft. Jonathan says on 2/Jul/09
Ali: You really know it well that it is not working. You really know you are a complete liar and a very dumb one I say.
Nothing could be more crystal clear (as much as your agenda against Arnold is. Not even a shadow of a doubt left) than Arnold being 6'1.5" - 6'2" in his prime. That is what he was. That is how big he always looked in the 70s, 80s and 90s. That is what all his measurements said and that is what people in all his circles have attested to including the person who measured himself.
You should be given the dumba** of the year award for not realizing how stupid you look saying those things. Metric says on 2/Jul/09
Oh dear, Lucio you are pretty dense aren't you??
That deluded statement about Arnolds health comes out of his own camp!!
Of course his own people would lie and twist the truth. Image is everything.
The show must go on!
Further down expert Charles Yesalis says that Arnold seems to have ALOT of health problems for someone who is not overweight and lives an athletic lifestyle!
This section cannot have escaped your eyes, Lucio!??
But this just shows once again how you ignore ANY evidence that shows that Arnold is NOT the superman you wish he were!
This is also why I know you are enourmously biased and can't judge his height since your emotions and not logic do the thinking for you!
Last but not least take a look at this, Lucio:
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Lol. Ali says on 2/Jul/09
Doug, both Seagal and Lundgren were/are big guys. Both
are 190cm at least. And Dolph probably 194cm. He himself
stated 193cm.
Why do you bring these two up? Have I written
these guys were under 6'0? No. These guys
are genuine big guys. No fake 6+ like Arnold.
Did he have surgeries in 1969? No, he was in his
best shape and peak height in those days. He was
roughly the same height as Dantes. 5'10 ish.
Case closed. Lucio says on 2/Jul/09
Metric, read careful the article because also says:
"Despite Schwarzenegger's travails, his doctor says he is in great shape for a man his age, though few details about the governor's condition are ever released. Schwarzenegger's office says such information is private.
The governor "is in excellent physical condition and his health is very good. He has fantastic muscle tone, excellent bone health and is in great cardiovascular shape. The governor's health is in the top 5 percent of people his age," said Dr. Kevin Ehrhart, his orthopedic surgeon."
= OWNAGE!!!
;) Lucio says on 2/Jul/09
Metric, you arrive late, I have already read this Click Here here is the same article, but from a different source.
With all the garbage that's on the internet, I do not believe this, although I would not rule out completely.
Even if so did, would have been as a result of skiing accident occurred to him in 2006, certainly not for the ages or even for the roids that "slowly dissolving his body"!!! LOL! LOL! ;) Doug says on 2/Jul/09
Ali you are fool. Dolph Lundgren and Steven Seagal also "never over 6'? Lucio says on 2/Jul/09
Guy: excellent comparison.
Obviously, we can not know on what kind of ground Matthew Arnold are relying your feet, so you can not shear definitive judgments.
Similarly, I think that you should stop to comparing the people heights so clearly dissimilar from Arnold as Franco Columbu.
Franco Columbu is not a midget, but there is too difference in height between him and Arnold, so any comparison is of little use.
As Guy correctly points out, is better to compare people who have more or less the same Arnold height. Lucio says on 2/Jul/09
The only case closed, is the Ali mind. Metric says on 2/Jul/09
Lucio says on 1/Jul/09
If we exclude some fragmentary information found on any internet website, a still today, there aren't no clear evidence that Arnlod had a surgery for hip replacement.
Simply there isn't reliable evidence regard this, so we can make all the speculation that we want, but they are just rumors.
AHEMM. Well then, Lucio. Let's hear it straight from the horses mouth itself!
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Scroll down. Arnold admits he has had a hip replacement.
= OWNAGE!!!
;) miko says on 2/Jul/09
Late at night in 2009 I put Arnold at close to 5"11, maybe 6"0 out of bed.
As for his peak around 6"1. He wasn't 6"2 at night at his peak, perhaps close out of bed. He looked 6"1 more often than 6"2, he wasn't under 6"0 for sure at his peak. Metric says on 2/Jul/09
What is this LSU guy talking about???
Arnold still trains.
But he looks bad today because he entire bone structure has changed!!
It is most evident in his hip region and lower torso. It seems like he has been compressed.
His backside looks like a 80 yr old granny! He already had this look in 6th day!! (HUGE butt and widened hips)
And it came suddenly. In the course of a few years from late 90s and on.
Also you will notice that beginning in his early 50s Arnold was already walking and moving like a geriatric citizen.
Compare him to Harrison Ford who is older but still looks fab and moves like a fighter.
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Arnold today has become an old lady.
Sorry to say.
But it's the truth.
He is certainly no superman anymore. Marc says on 2/Jul/09
JamesZ says on 2/Jul/09
I put him at 5'10. He is fairly tall yes but not quite 6'1....my dad saw him once about 25 years ago and my dad is 6'1 and he made the reference of looking down at him a bit which to me would put him at 5'10 or 5'11.
JamesZ: Yeah, my dad saw Arnold once too about 25 years ago and my dad is 6'3" and he was looking up to Arnold so Arnold must be 6'4" in his prime.
See how easy it is to make up bullsh*t?? I can bet you seem to be the dumba** Ali with a different log in. Don't make bullsh*t up!
He is widely acknowledged by everyone in IFBB for 30 years as the "Only Mr. Olympia champion who stood over 6 foot". NO ONE ever disputed that in 30 years. NO ONE!
It is iron clad and proven beyond any kind of doubt whatsoever in his 5000+ pictures barefoot that Arnold was 6'1.5" and was measured by Vince Basilli in 1969 (who hated Arnold because he was unfair to him as a judge in Mr. Australia contest).
He towered barefoot over just about every other bodybuilder except 6'4.5" Lou Ferrigno who was only 2.5 inches - 3 inches taller.
He has shrunk to a weak 6 foot due to four joint surgeries due to accidents including a hip surgery. JamesZ says on 2/Jul/09
I put him at 5'10. He is fairly tall yes but not quite 6'1....my dad saw him once about 25 years ago and my dad is 6'1 and he made the reference of looking down at him a bit which to me would put him at 5'10 or 5'11. Lucio says on 1/Jul/09
Roger, I don't only think this, but I am sure! Ali says on 1/Jul/09
Arnold was the same height as Dantes(5'10) in
1969.
So you can bring up all excuses that you want. He was always
under 6 foot.
Case closed. Guy says on 1/Jul/09
Metric: what difference does a photo with Matthew McConaughey matter. He's listed as 5'10 1/2" here, but it's clear this guy can look 6' whatever the reason. He always listed 6' on the internet and has his "exact" height of 5'11 3/4" written in his housecoat. Besides that he really DOES look 6' here next to 5'9 1/2"-5'10" Lance Armstrong and 6' Jake Gyllenhaal.
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Whether Matthew wears lifts, I don't know, but he does come off as tall in photos and his films. If you think Arnold in the end would come off looking 1/2 inch taller than McConaughey, then it pretty much confirms again the photos with Tony Blair and Obama where Arnold does look a shade over 6'. It makes no difference.
Second you whine about me hand picking two photos where only torso and above is visible. What about the Arnold/Matthew photo? I don't see their legs. Gee, maybe Matthew's standing on a grassy knoll. The extra photo's I provided of Arnold and Ralf show there is wide discrepancy. Such a tall guy like Ralf, if he's only a little closer to the camera will throw things off as likely he's going to be much taller than most photographers. Even still the blond guy is German American actor Thomas Gottschalk who is 6'4". Arnold certainly doesn't look just 5'11" here.
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Ralf is clearly favored here.
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For starters the other men are standing parallel while Moeller is standing on an angle with his one shoulder closer to the camera. You can see it better in this photo
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Observe how much closer Ralfs one foot is compared to those in the back. Also there's no way Ralf is just 6'5". I've seen him listed as 6'8" in muscle magazines. He even makes 6'4" Thomas Gottschalk look "short". In this photo 6'1" Gunter Schlierkamp second from left looks a good 6" shorter than Ralf though the photo is not the best for comparison.
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Looks at least 2 inches taller than Dolph Lundgren.
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Lundgren is anywhere between 6'4" and 6'5". Either way Ralf's a huge guy and comparing heights to such a very tall guy will run you into problems. It's much more accurate to compare people of known heights who are around the same height as Arnold. LSU Alum says on 1/Jul/09
Also to threw more gas on the fire,Mueller was listed as 6'8"in his early bodybuilding days,so 6'6.5"is not out of the question for him. LSU Alum says on 1/Jul/09
I hate to talk bad about anyone,but this Metric,is well insane.Steroids have not destroyed Arnold.By his own admission he is too busy running the Cal.government to put much time into his body. Metric says on 1/Jul/09
Ed Kline - We've been over this before.
Do some research on the net, dude.
There is plenty of SCIENTIFIC evidence backing the fact that steroids DISSOLVE your bone structure.
Thank you. Marc says on 1/Jul/09
Ed kline: Arnold has had 4 joint surgeries also that truly took the toll on his body. All of them were accident related. 1 hip replacement surgery, 1 broken knee surgery, 1 broken ribs surgery, 1 broken leg surgery in a motorcycle accident.
Without any doubts, Arnold was 6'1.5" - 6'2" prime and now has shrunk to somewhere in 5'11" - to weak 6'. Roger says on 1/Jul/09
Lucio, so Arnold is 6'1'' out of bed - well if you really think that, I just feel sorry for you. Ed Kline says on 1/Jul/09
Metric, you're claims about Arnolds height, and the long term effects of steroids are absurd. Vince Basilles letter pretty much cements Arnolds peak height at 6'1.5, and Arnold seemed to age overnight after he had valve replacement surgery on his heart. This might have been a consequence of steroids, but they dont dissolve your bones. Lucio says on 1/Jul/09
Metric, I agree with you on roids, but when you say crap such as that the Arnold height in his prime was 6 ' that no one believe you ,do you realize?
There are hundreds, thousands of proof, for photographs that say exactly the opposite, that you continueing on this road will continue to lose credibility and no one will give you more listening.
In this respect i show you my preparation made with a CAD program on this photo that shows Arnold, Lou Ferrigno, and Serge Nubret perfectly matched with a good angle viewing, although not perfect.
In order to do this, I scaled upon the whole picture of Serge Nubret height that in many sites on the Internet, ranging from a minimum of 5'11 to a maximum of 6 '
If you do not believe me, do a search on your behalf.
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Roger: yes, it's only estimation nothing more, but the Rob's estimation are very accurate, as the Ferrigno case, but I could cite many others, Rob pays close attention to details such as: type of shoes worn, type of sole, posture etc. etc.
So I do not think he fired at random in assessing the height of Arnold.
However, it is logical to assume its assessment refers presumably to the course of the day, maybe in the afternoon and as we all know, our height also decreases by 1" for the gravity effect.
As you can see, according to this reasoning, Arnold just out of bed, can still be 6'1" - 6'1 .25" Metric says on 1/Jul/09
Lucio - Arnold was 6-0 prime. IMO. Metric says on 1/Jul/09
Lucio - Arnold is not in good health. The steroids are slowly dissolving his body.
That's the real reason of his shrinkage.
His bones are so weak. I find the hip replacement story totally believeable. You can see in the 6th day that his torso and hip region has dramatically changed. He looks stiff, fat and he obviously has problems running in that movie. He really looks decades older than his real age which was only 53 yrs back then.
Arnold looked fab up until his late forties. At around 49-50 yrs age it was like he suddenly aged 10 or 20 yrs in a matter of no time!
Arnold said himself in an interview once that pro bodybuilders skin starts to "go" at 47 yrs of age. He claimed it was due to sun exposure. BS!!
It's steroids!
Roids made him age BEYOND his natural age.
Roids made him shrink.
Roids made him weak (in the end).
Never touch roids!
That's just the way it is. Lucio says on 1/Jul/09
If we exclude some fragmentary information found on any internet website, a still today, there aren't no clear evidence that Arnlod had a surgery for hip replacement.
Simply there isn't reliable evidence regard this, so we can make all the speculation that we want, but they are just rumors.
For the heart surgery, the ski and bikes accident on the other hand there are the official proof.
On all the stupidity that Ali said, there is one that is true: that is Arnold with the exception of the operations that I mentioned above, is a man who enjoys good health, so it is perfectly useless to insist on topics on which no you have supporting evidence (as the hip replacement). 177cmmm says on 1/Jul/09
When Arnold was young in the middle of his bodybuilding career he had a bit of surgery done that could have made him shorter. Metric says on 1/Jul/09
I think the last two photos I posted of Arn/Moeller and Arn/McConaughey were pretty conclusive.
To have Guy coming out now and saying the angle favors McConaughey when CLEARLY Matthew is hunched forward and bending his torso downwards thus favoring Arnold TREMENDOUSLY just shows how futile it is to discuss with these types of simpleminded, ignorant people.
Guy even has the nerve to dismiss my pic of Ralph and Arn where they are clearly seen standing side by side, no weird angles, both with upright postures and full length shots with shoes visible! Arnold is DWARFED!
Instead Guy handpicks strange photos where we can only see the two men torse up and furthermore pics where Ralph is bending his head VERY much downwards thus making the gap between him and Arnold USELESS for height estimation! (Still he DWARFS Arnold however!)
Take notice that many of the fanboys have not yet commented on my two pics. Of course they wouldn't because these two pics simply DESTROY their pathetic 6-1 case for Arnold!!
As for you Guy I would say your credibility and certainly your integrity is down the sh**ter by now!
You (and the other fanboys) display an ignorance and blind devotion to Arnold that is so embarassing I would have to take you for a couple of 13 year old fanGIRLS if I didn't knew any better??
But you are supposed to be grown men, aren't you??
Seriously, time to get a grip, GIRLS! Lucio says on 1/Jul/09
A good end Metric, and then how much was tall Arnold in his prime? Roger says on 1/Jul/09
Lucio, why is his height at the top of the page his minimum height? It is an estimate, nothing more.
Guy, again my question: how can Arnold be shorter than 184 cm max. Tiger Woods, but be taller than Tony Blair??? Why don't you accept this man has shrunken beyond what most of us thought is possible? Guy says on 1/Jul/09
Sorry to disappoint you Roger but I debunked the Tiger Woods photo some time ago. Towards the end of the video you'll see Tiger doesn't look so tall next to Arnold.
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Metric, your arguments are demented. To compare how "tall" Arnold appears in his films compared to other tall actors shows how simple you are. Arnold's film's were loaded up with VERY TALL actors. That's a fact. I don't think Connery's films regularly pitted him next to 6'4"-6'5" actors. If that were the case he would also not appear so tall. It's all relative. Conan, Predator, Running Man, True Lies, etc etc all surrounded Arnold with exceptionally large guys. I don't think the motivation was the same with Connery. All you have to do is Google actors heights in Arnold's films. To take all films at face value to assume only average height actors are cast is a very simple mentality. Guy says on 1/Jul/09
Metric, your arguments are demented. To compare how "tall" Arnold appears in his films compared to other tall actors shows how simple you are. Arnold's film's were loaded up with VERY TALL actors. That's a fact. I don't think Connery's films regularly pitted him next to 6'4"-6'5" actors. If that were the case he would also not appear so tall. It's all relative. Conan, Predator, Running Man, True Lies, etc etc all surrounded Arnold with exceptionally large guys. I don't think the motivation was the same with Connery. All you have to do is Google actors heights in Arnold's films. To take all films at face value to assume only average height actors are cast is a very simple mentality. Metric says on 1/Jul/09
EXACTLY, Roger!!
Arnold NEVER looked 6-2.
Not even in his younger days.
In fact when you look at his movies today you kind of get surprised at how "not tall" he looks in many of them. Compare to a man like Sean Connery. He ALWAYS looks HUGE. Arnold doesn't.
It's almost like his big muscles fooled us all and made us think he was taller than he really is? Or maybe we wanted him to be taller?
The truth is he was never 6-2!
Never. Lucio says on 1/Jul/09
The height at top of this page, 6 '(183 cm) estimated by Rob, relates to his height during the day, this means that this is the minimum height below which he can not go down, so it doesn't to refer to his maximum height.
If his height during the day is 183 cm, this means that in the morning, fresh out of bed, your maximum height could be 185 - 186 cm that is quite plausible for him.
Everything depends on the extent of loss of height during the day which is subjective to each one of us. Guy says on 1/Jul/09
Arnold looks every bit 6' today next to Tony Blair with excellent photo criteria such as standing position and posture. There is also no reason or any noticeable evidence for Arnold wearing lifts that day. Arnold still looked possibly 1/2 up on 6' Tony Blair. There are also dozens of photos from that day to choose from. Metric as usual parades a new found photo to meet his agenda where Ralf Moeller is clearly closer to the camera. Does he think we're all idiots here? On countless times I've googled the same photo sessions from his various claims and shown the photos he's obviously chosen to ignore. Does he not think we can do this? Does he think we would always take his chosen (and usually always flawed) photos at face value without any further research. Yes this guy will use any tactic to win some kind of personal obsession with Arnold being much shorter than what is proven fact. Arnold and Ralf appear to be standing side by side in this photo and Arnold looks easily a strong 6' when factoring in Ralf's head tilt.
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Again Arnold might be favored a little, but nonetheless Ralf doesn't seem to look towering over Arnold here.
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Either way, there are not really any great photos for comparison between Arnold and Ralf at that recent event. To describe it as some kind of smoking gun is laughable. We've got a whole series of excellent photos with Tony Blair plus recent photos with Obama which all show Arnold is still very minimum 6' today and can look even a little more.
As far as McConauhey, he's listed pretty extensively as 6' everywhere. He has 5'11 3/4" written in his housecoat. I don't know. He looks tallish in his films. The photo with Arnold is not a great angle as Matthew is favored. Arnold could still look up to 2 inches taller if they stood side by side. Again the fact these poor angle shots are used as some kind of golden proof only shows the lengths these guys resort to. 177cmmm says on 1/Jul/09
i have seen arnold in his prime and he is 7 ft 3inches tall without a doubts maybe even 7ft 5 Lynn says on 30/Jun/09
Cj says on 30/Jun/09
marc:did you maximize the picture i posted i put the same picture that georgestrombo did with lines that proove my point that franco was closer to his chin than his shoulder which strombo insists.
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Correct,
so Franco 5'2", add 10" and...Arnold was 6' peak.
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CJ: Fair enough. I think you might be right that difference between Arnold and Franco was around 10 inches or so. Maybe, 11 inches at the most.
I don't believe Franco was 5'5" at all. No way. But, he could be 5'3" or a weak 5'4" at best. Roger says on 30/Jun/09
What does amaze me in general is how often wishful thinking grabs hold of some here. I myself don't have any anti- / or pro agenda against any celebrity, I just like facts. Arnold himself rarely looked 6'2'' imho, even in his max. days. Just remember how 6'2'' actor Ronnie Cox was taller than him in "Total Recall". Roger says on 30/Jun/09
It's great to see how the vast majority has come to the correct conclusion.
Let's also not forget Glenn who early on reported how Arnold looked a shocking 5'11''. So funny how Arnold himself still says "I'm 6'1''". When he obviously isn't.
Metric, I said and will say again that Arnold dropping to 5'11'' is totally imaginable, though as of now less it certainly isn't. Let's not forget, 5'11'' is 180.3 cm. What I still cannot judge - and no one can, as we simply don't have the possibility to measure Arnold fresh out of bed, is if Arnold can reach 182.5 cm peak. Or if 182 cm peak today are his max height after hours of sleep.
Heightloss during waking hours is very individual, so there's no way we can make safe assumptions about this.
I do strongly believe that Arnold has joined the "lifted fraction", too, for some time now. He probably wishes he had worn them when the photo with Tiger Woods was shot, as this was the single most embarrassing moment exposing Arnold's height (or lack thereof, lol)
I believe if Arnold and Matthew McC stood face to face, barefoot, you'd see almost no difference between the two. But let's in all fairness not rule out that Matthew himself is maybe even 180 cm. Maybe only 178 cm. That we again don't know for sure. Marc says on 30/Jun/09
CJ: Agreed with you on all points. 10 inches seems plausible between Arnold and Franco. Doug says on 30/Jun/09
5'11.5" would seem plausible. All we know is that he not above 6' legit today. So 5'11. something. Cj says on 30/Jun/09
marc:did you maximize the picture i posted i put the same picture that georgestrombo did with lines that proove my point that franco was closer to his chin than his shoulder which strombo insists.
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also if you had taken time to read what i said,the pictures are of arnie and franco in close proximity hitting or standing in the same pose or of equal posture.in the pictures you and strombo have shown to say franco's head was shoulder level are wrong as i by >MY< eye franco's head reaches at the >MAX< Arnie's chin in equal or similiar pose's and show even more with the lines i have added.
Franco may indeed hover around or just below arnold's chin but Arnold doesent have over a 10inch head Arnie's head is 8 1/2 inches max from the chin to the very top of the skull fact as i have worked on the laser scanned T3 movie Arnie head take that fact for whatever its worth.i dont want to argue about this it's the internet lol it my opinion and yours who really cares?
And i have said i believe the peak listed height for arnie as to me he looked it imho. Marc says on 30/Jun/09
Doug: Thanks. I firmly believe Arnold is no more than a weak 6' today and possibly as low as 5'11.5". He shrunk by 2 inches or probably more in the wake of his 4 surgeries and aging. Pretty much what most people believe here. Still, some people on here need to be a complete jacka** to say pretty much what everyone else has been saying. It simply blows my mind.
Like the pictures I posted of Arnold with Ralf in the 90s, he was 3 - 4 inches shorter than Ralf, but now he has a good 4 - 4.5 inches difference Ralf.
CJ: I have to agree with George Strombo. Your picture evidence is downright pathetic favoring Franco due to Arnold's poor posture. Looking at all on-stage pictures (not the one's you posted of Franco being closer to the camera) that Strombo posted, Franco is indeed close to 11 inches shorter barefoot with Arnold when both were standing full straight. The problem is Arnold's posture which always was hunched and with a twisted waist with Franco.
Borrowing picture Strombo posted of Franco and Arnold on-stage with Arnold fully upright (which he rarely was), Arnold towers over him by almost a foot. He does not even reach Arnold's shoulder level.
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Franco is closer to camera, but Arnold's fully upright back and side-chest allows him to bring his full height out towering over Franco by 1 foot.
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There is no need to debate something that is so clear and obvious. Metric says on 30/Jun/09
I agree, Doug. No need for any future hostility over 0.5 inch.
I was angry with the idiot GeorgeStrombo and that rubbed off on you I guess.
I apologize for that.
At least you and I both agree that Arnold is BELOW 6-0 today.
Unlike the fanboys who still dream of him being 6-1 and 6-2.
Thatīs just pure fantasy really. Metric says on 30/Jun/09
Rob - you need to ban this a**hole, GeorgeStrombo!
His mouth is dirtier than a countryside waste tank.
And look how he carries on in the spirit of Glenn Cunningham insulting and verbally abusing ANYONE who disagrees with him.
He posts pathetic pictures with 1/20 of a car in view and will not admit that we can never be sure of the brand. Then he goes apesh*t and fills this board with the most foul language seen on here SO FAR!
Yes, in fact he surpasses good ol' Glenn in being a little dirty mouth and "proud" keyboard "warrior"!
Are you as "brave" in real life, GeorgeFOOL!!???
I bet you wouldn't talk trash like that to my face.
I sure wish we lived near each other so we could meet IRL.
Then we could see how brave you really are, you pathetic 13 year old BOY!
Would love to see you run home to mama like a little mutt with its tail between its legs!
Lol.
Keep em'coming, GeorgieBOY.
F**k*ng MUTT !!
Ban him, Rob. Thank you. Vegas says on 30/Jun/09
tiny lister is also in that universal soldier photo (2nd from left), he claims 6ft 5 for his height JAK says on 30/Jun/09
If Arnold has had multiple joint and hip surgery his height would have suffered. My dad just broke his rib and he lost an inch of height for a while. if you are just tired or ill in general you will notice that standing up completely straight is almost impossible. Doug says on 30/Jun/09
Great pics Marc. Moeller looks 3 inches taller than Arnie max. Anybody who think he makes Arnie look like a little boy is absurd. If you compare the recent picture to the old pictures you can see that Arnie has lost a good 2 inches in height. Not hard to imagine given that he devoted his life to lifting heavy weights. I think Arnie is about 5 '11.5" today. Metric thinks 5'11". Is there really a need to be so rude about other peoples views Metric? It is obvious you like to think of Arnie as a little boy. Metric says on 30/Jun/09
Anonymous: In your pic Lundgren is clearly hunching his head forwards and downwards! Kinda like the same posture as the hunchback of Notre Dame!!
Lol.
If he straightened up he would be hardly any shorter than Moeller.
This pic just shows 6-5 for Moeller and 6-4 Lundgren in their primes. Metric says on 30/Jun/09
Lynn - Click Here
Many speculate that he is even shorter though. Roger says on 30/Jun/09
Another great find, Metric. And again, 5'11.5'' on this photo for Arnold. Anonymous says on 30/Jun/09
Geez, the Metric universe just continues to shrink just so Metric can lower Arnold, lol. So Dolph Lundgren is now shorter than 6-4? Lou Ferrigno 6-3? Wtf?! It's so laughable that whenever it's crystal clear Arnold is 6-2 in some pic, like in the Chris Reeves / Manute photo, Metric can't come up with anything that makes sense so he throws the "lifts" card, hahaha. What a joker!
Here's a good front-view pic of the entire Universal Soldier cast.
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Moeller clearly has Lundgren by 2 inches or so. Eat cheese Metric! 177cmmm says on 30/Jun/09
does anyone reckon arnold will ever come back to acting? Cj says on 30/Jun/09
Georgestrombo here is the inconclusive proof main word inconclusive mind you,
Your choosen picture for the argument: Click Here with lines added to highlight my point.
And my choosen pictures (lines added)in which both men as i said yesterday have the same posture and pose:
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Also you said the picture i choose where pathetic(Harsh)because arnold was not standing straight but im sure the same could be said for franco also i said they where pictures in which they had the same pose and/or posture so we could get roughly the best view and im sure your gonna say arnold wasnt standing at his straightest in the picture you choosen to say franco doesent even come upto arnold's shoulder even though with or without lines the top of franco's head appears to be in line with his chin,a fair point from my observation skills wouldnt you say? all im judging this by is pictures and clips i have seen i cannot deny the fact the top of franco's head in the picture i have provided at the MAX reaches Arnie's chin,picture and videos are not the best proof as i said its all inconclusive unless i witness it in the flesh or read or hear it from a reputable person with no reason to lie then its all variables atleast in pictures and video. Marc says on 29/Jun/09
Here are picture of Arnold with Ralf Moeller and Clint Eastwood. Arnold and Clint Eastwood look almost identical in height (Arnold about 0.5 inches shorter) and Ralph towers over both by 4 - 5 inches:
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There is another picture of Arnold and Ralph with 5'10" Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi looks 4 inches shorter than Arnold. Moeller looks again about 4 inches taller than Arnold. Lynn says on 29/Jun/09
Metric,
in your McConaughey pic the two men seem to be the same height.
How tall is McConaughey? I do not know him. Cj says on 29/Jun/09
GeorgeStrombo:pathetic evidence?could you have come across as anymore of a nice person with you first sentence?any way i actually choose 3 or 4 pictures where they are both in the same pose or posture and shows Franco came upto Arnold's chin and the lat spread picture you posted contradicts whats you saying as it clearly shows once again Franco comes upto Arnie's chin lat spread or not,the only reason that franco looks close to Arnie's shoulder level (even though he still reaches his chin)in the lat spread pose is the shoulders always raise slightly to make the lats pop out more thats why is chest is much closer to his own chin aswell.I also believe in his prime arnold was the height that this site has him listed at peak and if Franco is the height of 5ft 5in that would support that Arnie peak height as a 6ft 1.5to2in person generally has just about a full head over a 5ft5in person depending on posture.
Georgestrombo you believe as i do Arnie was 6ft 1to2in peak?if so why do you keep insisting franco closer to 5ft2in that would make Arnie smaller than what we believe maybe these pictures Click Here Click Here with Danny Padilla who is 5ft 2in are the reason?
based on picture and video evidence a 5ft 2in person dosent reach a persons of 6ft 1.5/or 2in chin thats probly why you keep on insisting franco doesent reach Arnies chin in the first place but Franco does infact reach Arnies chin whether you see or you dont,maybe i have to question my belief Arnie was his peak listed height if franco was only 5ft 2in and manages to reach a 6ft1.5in mans chin because thats the tallest 5ft 2in man i have seen or the smallest 6ft1.5 man i have seen.
I await your one sided view on the franco only reaches Arnolds shoulder view with bated breath,inspite of the the evidence shown and to be re shown in more detail later with inconclusive proof,and please take in the fact i have levelled with you the fact franco may actually be closser to 5ft2in but that probably wont stop you jumping on my back with my views and opinions though will it lol. Doug says on 29/Jun/09
Metric you have shown a lot of disrespect for me and have called me names just because I think he is 0.5 inches taller. Think about it. Doug says on 29/Jun/09
Yeah cos in Denmark all the guys are 6'8" blond giants and eat huge meals. OK Moeller is 6'5" barefoot as he now claims. That makes Arnie roughly 5'11", so what? I claim he is 5'11.5 you claim he is 5'11. Look at the difference on a height chart, extremely small yet you claim I am a deluded fanboy just because I think he is 0.5 inches taller than you think he is. You really need a few lessons in respect Metric not to mention reality because the way you speak to people really shows how immature you really are. greg says on 29/Jun/09
metric, 5ft11, 6ft big deal they are similar heights! Vegas says on 29/Jun/09
Moeller isn't 6'7 he claims 6'5.5 for himself, a photo of moeller and lou ferrigno from 1998, most claim ferrigno has lost height or lost height before the 1990s?? Click Here Marc says on 29/Jun/09
Roger: Aside from this d*mb idiot named Metric that possesses enormous hatred for Arnold. It is not even worth responding.
Dolph Lundgren has always claimed to be 6'5" when he did Rocky 4. He was asked his height in the audition for Rocky 4 and he told them 6'5". The video is on youtube. He may have shrunk recently. Still he is over 6'4".
Here are transcripts of his interview exactly in his own words:
"I was turned down at my first audition for Rocky 4 for being too tall, I was 6ft 5in and you were supposed to be 6ft 3in maximum. I didn't know what the casting call was for and I just showed up, they asked me how tall I was, I said 6ft 5in and they said "Next!".
I have given a range of 6'5.5" - 6'7" for Ralph Mueller because he was taller than Dolph by more than 2 inches easily in Universal Soldiers.
Regardless, I have clearly stated what you are saying that Arnold today is between 5'11" - 6' and the difference with Ralph is 4 - 5 inches in the recent pictures.
In his prime, there is no doubt Arnold was 6'1.5" - 6'2". He was maxium 4 inches shorter in the 1993 picture of Arnold with Ralph I posted when "Last Action Hero" came out. Roger says on 29/Jun/09
Want another example of the endless proofs that Arnold is 6' max? Click Here the interviewer Carlos Watson said of himself that he has Michelle Obama's height (in a washington post article), he appears to be half an inch shorter in this video.
I think there's really tons of evidence that Arnold cannot be 6'1'' today. Why do some continue to insist he is???? Lucio says on 29/Jun/09
AAAARRRRRRGGHHH.... I'M REALLY SHOCKED! LOL!
Metric, Guy he is right when he says that you are the STRAW MAN ARGUMENTS.
And who tells you that McConaughey is not wearing lifts?
Metric.. Metric .. bring me a single photo with McConaughey and Arnold side by side JUST ONE and perhaps, and I say "perhaps" i can reconsider the issue. Metric says on 29/Jun/09
Oops. I meant Lundgren was never 6-5.
He was 6-4. Metric says on 29/Jun/09
Roger - I'm very interested in your opinion on the pic with Arn and Matthew??
You seem like one of the few reasonable guys on here.
Don't you think a flat 5-11 is possible for Arnold after seeing this pic???
Thank you. Metric says on 29/Jun/09
Click Here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arnold looks 1 inch taller MAX!
But McConaughey is hunched forward. If he straightened up there would be around 0.5 inch difference in height in Arnolds favor at the very max.
(And is Schwarzenegger wearing lifts???)
I would say this pic is yet another smoking gun that proves Arnold 5-11 today!
Now we are only waiting for the fanboys... Roger says on 29/Jun/09
Ralf Moeller is listed at 196 cm (6'5.5'') on his very own, official site, so no reason to make him taller than he is.
As every photo points out to a weak 6' Arnold, is this topic really that interesting anymore? I still doubt whether Arnold really can drop to 180 cm straight, but 181.5 cm is entirely possible. Marc says on 29/Jun/09
Here is another one from 1993 (Arnold wearing 'Last Action Hero' T-shirt) of Arnold with 6'5.5" - 6'7" Ralf Moeller. He looks perfectly around 6'1.5" - 6'2" confirming it 100% that Arnold has shrunk by about 2 inches or probably more:
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A more recent picture of Arnold with 6'6 - 6'7" Ralf Moeller and Slyvester Stallone wearing his trademark monster stilletos footwear looking almost equal to Arnold in height at around 6' or so (Everyone is unanimous that Arnold barefoot demolishes Sly by more than 4 inches):
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To sum it up, Arnold used to be a strong 6'1.5" - 6'2" until his age and 4 joint surgeries and hip replacement cost him well over 2 inches in height. He could be even as low as 5'11" today. Who knows?
Slyvester Stallone is altogether a different story. As time went by, with age his footwear and monster stilletos grew. Today it is so ridiculous that this average 5'9" guy wears huge platform shoes and matches people of around 6 foot height. It is completely laughible. Anonymous99 says on 29/Jun/09
I rarely post on this arnold page, it seems silly and mundane at this point, I really enjoy all these pictures you all go search for on the web, saves me time, so thanks yall. Metric says on 29/Jun/09
You are a fool, Marc!
Moeller says 6-5 HIMSELF!!
Get it through your thick skull!
Lundgren was never 6-4.
And of course you pick a picture where Moeller is hunched forward and tilting his head down!!
And then you have the nerve to call it "more reasonable" over my excellent pic from the Audi Show!!???
My pic showed Arn/Moeller head to toe, with floor level and footwear clearly visible!!
You can't get a better picture than that!
Marc, you seem to be yet another one of these deluded fanboys totally disconnected from reality.
May I suggest you hook up with ACG??
Picket fences and all ;) Marc says on 29/Jun/09
Here is a more reasonable picture showing both guys up close.
Arnold does not look more than 4 - 5 inches shorter than Ralf Moeller:
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Again, Ralf has been widely claimed to be closer to 6'7". Remember he towered over legit 6'5" Dolf Lundgren in Universal Soldiers by 2 inches or so. He could be closer to 6'7". Marc says on 29/Jun/09
Can anyone explain if this Metric guy has an agenda against Arnold??? Geez!
All he seems to be doing is thrashing Arnold left and right unfairly. He seems to be completely biased and unreasonable. Then again. he seems to have a history of skewing facts to his likings.
Arnold was a legit 6'2" back in the 80s and it is crystal clear he has shrunk to 5'11.5" - 6'. The picture of Arnold with Christopher Reeve was taken back in 1984 when Arnold was near his peak height. How hard is to understand??
Ralf Moeller has been listed even at 6'7" and sometimes 6'6" and the lowest I have seen is 6'5.5" on this board. Arnold still looks easily 5'11.5" - 6' in that picture with Ralf Moeller. No questions. Lucio says on 29/Jun/09
Roger says on 29/Jun/09
Lucio, "I was expecting me"? Please explain, I find this interesting.
Hi Roger!
In the sense that Ali big shot and then he can't explain the why of his stupidity. GeorgeStrombo says on 29/Jun/09
Marc: Great picture. Christopher Reeve was a strong 6'4" and Arnold looks perfectly 6'2" in that picture next to Christopher Reeve.
What makes me laugh is the black guy (Manute Bol that was 7'7") on the extreme left that makes these very tall guys 6'4" Christopher Reeve and 6'2" Arnold look like tiny midgets. They were well below the Manute's shoulder level. LOL. Manute Bol was simply gigantic. GeorgeStrombo says on 29/Jun/09
Cj: Pathetic evidence. None of the pictures you posted have Arnold standing straight.
I had posted 3 - 4 pictures where Franco never reached Arnold's shoulder level even on stage especially with a lat spread where both have to stretch their rib cage and spine to the max thus bringing out the maximum height, which is why I selected those pictures since Arnold stood upright in those pictures.
All the pictures you posted have Arnold with his usual waist-twist causing him to lose height as well.
If both men stood fully straight Arnold towered Franco by 11 inches to 1 foot. No way was Franco 5'5" since he was shorter than Tom Platz (who was 5'5") and Chris Dickerson in the 1981 Mr. Olympia.
Franco was never more than 5'2" and Arnold was 6'1.5" - 6'2" in his prime. Metric says on 29/Jun/09
That pic with Reeve just shows how Arnold is a HUGE liftmonger!!
Moeller is 1 inch taller than Reeve but ALWAYS DESTROYS Arnold by 5-6 (7 ??) inches !!
But mysteriously Arnold is only 1-2 inches shorter than Reeve???
LIFTS, my fanboys.
Lifts...
LOL. Roger says on 29/Jun/09
Lucio, "I was expecting me"? Please explain, I find this interesting. Metric says on 29/Jun/09
Here are some other pics from that event:
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Scroll down and look at picture no. 4 from the bottom!
Perfect camera angles, Moeller and Arn are standing equally as close to the camera and footwear and level ground is clearly visible!!
Arnold stands with Stallone like posture, Moeller is relaxed and has somewhat bad posture.
Still there is almost A FULL HEADs difference!!
If you count in Moellers posture disadvantage I would say Arnold looks even shorter in this pic than the first one I posted!!!
Eat pizza fanboys!! ;) Metric says on 29/Jun/09
Doug - Moeller is 6-5 BY HIS OWN WORDS!!! So according to your own theory that would make Arnold 5-11 in my pic!!!
That's what I have been saying for years. Metric says on 29/Jun/09
Doug - I see you know better than the celebs themselves how tall they are???
Are you Glenn??
Moeller said himself on a big german television show in 2006 that he is: "Hundert sechs und neunzig" = 196 cm = 6-5 !!!
I trust the man a little more than some deluded fanboy who only wants to make Arnold look tall.
BTW Moeller did NOT dwarf everybody on that show. He looked tall but no more.
Arnold on the other hand is often dwarfed in (recent) pictures. If he was still 6-1 there sure is alot of 6-2, 6-3 men walking around on this planet!!??
If Arnold was being photographed in Denmark (where I live) I could believe it.
Maybe.
But he lives in USA where the average height for males is 5-9 (According to this site)!!! Still he almost never comes across tall and in fact often gets owned and look shortish in pics. Such as this one with Moeller.
Incredible that the fanboys still try to explain this pic away with their camera angles, perspective and "Moeller is 7-0" CRAP!!!
Arnold gets DESTROYED!
Period. Lucio says on 29/Jun/09
Ali, take a pair of glasses.
Besides to be tilted the angle of the photographer, is also the ground tilted, look better and don't see, as usual, omly what convenience you.
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How wanted be demonstrate, you have completely ignored my request to look for a picture with Arnold and Lou side by side.
I was expecting me.
You are only chat and no evidence. Cj says on 29/Jun/09
Georgestrombo Franco columbu's head was always above Schwarzeneggers shoulder level and i think its quite apparent in these pictures Click Here
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the very top of columbu's head clearly at the max comes upto arnold's chin,even the piture you posted saying he only comes upto his shoulders is clear proof he comes upto arnold's chin its clear as day to me. Marc says on 28/Jun/09
A picture of 6'4" strong Christopher Reeve and 6'2" Arnold in 1985. Arnold looks every bit 6'2" in that 80s pictures without any doubts.
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Arnold is third from the left and Christopher is 2nd.
He has suffered terrible shrinkage is most likely 5'11.5" - 6' today. GeorgeStrombo says on 28/Jun/09
Metric: Whoa!! LOOK AT THE HOSTILITY! you are a proven dumba** and look at your attitude!!!! You have before been caught lying. I caught you red handed when you blatantly lied that Arnold's measurements were taken from the 1974 Mr Olympia when I quoted exactly what was written in the "Arnold: 50 years portrait of an icon" magazine.
It was 6'1.5" taken from the 1974 Olympia when you blatantly LIED THAT IT WAS TAKEN FROM HIS PASSPORT!! YOU LITTLE SH*T!!
Secondly, you were royally embarassed when you were forced to put your foot in your mouth when you kept insisting "Bronstein" was taller than Arnold and everyone else including Rob verified Arnold was taller than Bronstein.
YOU LITTLE DUMBSH*T!, regardless of what Arnold owned as a Mercedes in the 70s, THAT MERCEDES IN THE BACKGROUND OF THIS PICTURE IS A W123!!! I HAVE PROVEN IT BEYOND ANY DOUBTS THROUGH SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISONS YOU LITTLE SH*T!!!
IT IS A W123 Mercedes that was 4'8" (58 inches tall) regardless of what ARNOLD OWNED!!! YOU DUMBF*CK!!
Click Here Lucio says on 28/Jun/09
Metric: i don't know which car driving Arnold in the 70s, but the mercedes in the photo is own a W123 model and as well as are correct technical data exposed by George. Ali says on 28/Jun/09
Lucio, what the ground is tilted?
The picture is not taken completely in front of the
three gentlemen. There is no ground height difference.
Look at the line where the floor touches the wall. The line
is not going straight, because the crazy photographer is not
taking a straight picture. You think Arnold is standing on
such an uneven floor while taking a picture?
This is how it is:
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Metric, great picture! Arnold completely owned.
Arnold did not forget his lifts in this picture
Metric. He got owned while wearing his lifts!! Doug says on 28/Jun/09
How Moeller looks is basically how a legit 6'6" (around) will appear compared to a 6' flat guy. Barefoot Arnie is roughly 5'11.5 and Moeller 6'5.5". Doug says on 28/Jun/09
If Moeller is 6'6.5"-6'7" in shoes as I'd estimate given that he is 6'5.5" barefoot then in that pic Arnie is 6'0.5"-6'1" in shoes. Swing the picture round and Arnie really doesn't look like a little boy. Most people would be dwarfed by Moeller. Doug says on 28/Jun/09
Moeller is also taller than a flat 6'5" and has been known to look as high as 6'7". Barefoot he is 6'5.5" so in good shoes as maybe here he will be 6'6.5"-6'7". Doug says on 28/Jun/09
If you swung the angle round taking over the top of Arnie pushed up hair Arnie is level with the bottom of Moeller's nose. Roughly a 6 inch difference. Doug says on 28/Jun/09
Not really Metric. The angle is awkward and Moller is standing at the side and nearer the camera. If level I only see about a 6 inch height difference. If Moeller is 6'5.5" that still puts Arnie at 5'11.5". As for lifts I have no idea. Roger says on 28/Jun/09
Metric, terrific find, this photo. But 5'10'', no. He looks 6' ( a weak 6'), like I and some others here say for ages. greg says on 28/Jun/09
metric arnie looks 6ft in that pic.iv seen pictures of 6ft5 people next to legit 6fters and it looks like that. Metric says on 28/Jun/09
Here is a little slice of truth pizza for all the deluded Arnold worshippers out there:
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6-5 (legit) Ralf Moeller just DESTROYS the sh*t out of Arn here!!!
Arnold literally looks like a boy next to him. There is almost a full head difference in height!!!
NO FRIGGIN WAY is that a 6-2, 6-1 or even 6-0 man standing tall next to a 6-5 Moeller here!!!
Schwarzenegger looks no more than 5-10 in this pic!
That's the sad truth.
Probably forgot his lifts at this event.
Happy "eating"! Metric says on 28/Jun/09
GeorgeStrombo: Show me a link to the documentaries about Arnold you talk about!!???
I have seen them. And the Merc he drives in those documentaries is a W116 !!!!
Post a link to ANY kind of evidence showing that Arnold EVER owned a W123 !!????
I NEVER NEVER EVER heard that he owned such a vehicle!!
The W116 on the other hand has been pictured in Musclemag!
I even think there is a pic of Arnold, Robert Kennedy and the W116 in that infamous "50 yrs edition" you say you "own", George!!??
That's why I know you don't have the mag. And if you do indeed own it you have only just shown what a BIG liar you are!!
Conclusion about your pic of Arn and car is this:
Worthless!! First of alle we cannot be sure of the brand of the car!! Thus we don't know the height of the roof line and where is the point in comparing it with Arnold then???
Major FLAW!
Second of all camera angles, perspective etc. are way to messed up for an even somewhat decent comparison between the car and Arnold.
Don't post crap like this in the future, GeorgeFool!
Just another desperate attempt from a deluded fanboy to prove Arnold a GIANT towering everyone!
Lol.
Pure fantasy. GeorgeStrombo says on 28/Jun/09
Lucio: Excellent point! The ground in that picture is tilted in favor of Franco and Dan. I posted tons of pictures of Arnold and Franco in a pose-down on-stage barefoot. Franco never even reached Arnold's shoulder level. NEVER! In that particular picture, Franco and Dan are standing at a higher ground level than Arnold.
There is no way Franco and Arnold's difference was less than 11 inches to 1 foot. Franco never reached Arnold's shoulder level in barefoot on-stage pictures. GeorgeStrombo says on 28/Jun/09
Metric says on 28/Jun/09
GeorgeStrombo = FAIL FAIL FAIL !!!
Arnold did NOT own a Mercedes W123 E-class in the 70s!!!
Reply:
Metric, you are an id*t! THAT IS A W123 Mercedes that is 58 inches ( 4'8" inches tall). You are again having that "bullsh*t Bronstein foot-in-your-mouth moment"! I was graceful enough to not rag on you when I caught your blatant lie when you claimed "Muscles and Fitness: Arnold 50 years portrait of an icon" had Arnold's 6'1.5" height from his passport when I verified in the copy of that magazine I have at home that the measurements were taken from the 1974 Olympia. That 6'1.5" in the 1974 Olympia were taken from his official 1974 stats. YOU ARE DUMBA** FOOL!!!!
THAT MERCEDES IN THE PICTURE IS A W123 Mercedes LIKE I STATED BEFORE!!! I found rear three quarter angle pictures of a W123 Mercedes and it LOOKS IDENTICAL! IT HAS IDENTICAL FENDERLINE, IDENTICAL ROOFLINE, IDENTICAL SIDEMOULDINGS, IDENTICAL REAR BUMPER, IDENTICAL TRUNKLINE to the w123 Mercedes:
W123 Mercedes rear quarter angle compared to Mercedes in Arnold picture:
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THEY LOOK IDENTICAL!! THE MERCEDES IN THE PICTURE IS A W123 THAT WAS 4'8" tall! PERIOD! Metric says on 28/Jun/09
Arnold looks 5-11 max in that pic. Lucio says on 28/Jun/09
Lynn, but don't you see that the ground is tilted?
Click Here Ali says on 28/Jun/09
Danimal I can't see the pictures
of ARnold and Ferrigno. Lynn says on 28/Jun/09
Vladimir says on 28/Jun/09
franco is short man but not midget like, no way he was only 5'2"...
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Dear Danimal, Guy and others....so I never souced my statements.
Franco Columbu was max 5'2".
Look at the pic with Dan Lurie
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And Dan Lurie was max 5'5"
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And really I DO NOT see 9" difference between Dan and Arnold.
Considering the ground level the difference appear to be around 7" max. Metric says on 28/Jun/09
GeorgeStrombo = FAIL FAIL FAIL !!!
Arnold did NOT own a Mercedes W123 E-class in the 70s!!!
He drove the S-class W116 !!
Also the car in the pic is NOT any kind of Mercedes at all!!
Lol.
It looks like a Chevrolet Malibu '77.
Massive OWNAGE!! ;) Vladimir says on 28/Jun/09
franco is short man but not midget like, no way he was only 5'2", he has excellent proportions for a short man Click Here no way he look like this litle guy Click Here Metric says on 28/Jun/09
Columbo is a midget. He was 5-2 MAX.
Even Arnold commented on his midget like proportions.
Just compare him with Michael J Fox. Franco is supposed to be around the same height!??
Lol. Laughable!
Fox looks like a very short man but with normal proportions.
Franco on the other hand does not look like a normal man. He looks like a large midget: His arms and legs are stocky and much too short for his torso. Classic midget proportions.
Only a fanboy of exceptional numbness in the brain could believe the 5-5 claims for Franco! Metric says on 28/Jun/09
Danimal - why do you post links that require login???
Daft. GeorgeStrombo says on 27/Jun/09
HAHAHAHA@Arnold was "Average height" in his prime so means Arnold was 5'9"?? Right?? Hahaha!!:
This picture shows how tall he was barefoot relative to 1970's Mercedes E-class that was 58 inches tall with chasis code W123 was Arnold's own car seen in many documentaries from the 70s (That is exactly 4'8" tall for the Mercedes). That is the actual dimension I got from the Mercedes archives. The roofline of the Mercedes reaches about 4 inches below Arnold's shoulder level. That means barefoot Arnold was well above 6 foot in the 1970s. THERE IS NO F*CKING WAY ARNOLD WAS 5'10" in the 1970s!!! PERIOD! IMPOSSIBLE!!! :
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If still Arnold was only "average height" then
Franco Columbo who Arnold towered barefoot in his prime by 1 foot was a 4'9" and weighed a laughable 190 pounds (he never even reached Arnold's shoulder level and 190 pounds weight for a 4'9" with only 6% fat is almost unimaginable):
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5'10" Joe Weider in dress shoes towered by barefoot Arnold by over 3 inches was actually 5'4". HAHAHAH
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Chris Dickerson's 5'6" height was actually 5'0" and Frank Zane's 5'9.5" height was in reality 5'4" (he competed at 190 pounds. A 5'4" guy that weighs 190 pounds and looks "skinny" for a bodybuilder is downright so ludicrous that one can only laugh):
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Lou Ferrigno's 6'4.5" - 6'5" were in fact 5'11". In this side-by-side posedown of Ferrigno and Arnold shows he was at the most 3 inches taller than Arnold. Most likely 2.5 inches. Don't be fooled by his huge poofy Afro while Arnold's insignigficant hair volume at the top of his head:
Don't forget Ferrigno was measured for the 1977 "World's strongest man contest". They measure exact heights of the athletes competing in the event. Ferrigno was also identical to Olympic shot put champion Brian Oldfield.
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All the other 5 bodybuilders barefoot were midgets from "Snow white and 7 dwarfs" in this picture since an "average" height Arnold towers over everyone by atleast 4 inches (except Dave Draper who is about 2 inches shorter than Arnold):
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5'10" 235 pounds Sergio Oliva was only 235 pounds 5'4" since Arnold is towering over him by 4 inches easily as Arnold is only "average height" barefoot:
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Only 2" difference?? YEAH RIGHT!!! Click Here Danimal says on 27/Jun/09
Only 2" difference?? YEAH RIGHT!!! Click Here unknown says on 27/Jun/09
Vladimir...love the pic, Arnold 6 feet peak is a good laugh lol! Danimal says on 27/Jun/09
Arnold isn't looking only 2.5"-3" shorter than BIG LOUIE here:
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Thank you all guys!
George: Yes, Arnold is slightly compressed as it is straining his abdominal and makes him seem more short then what he is really.
So if he is not tens your abs, would be tall than 1-2 cm.
Ali says on 23/Jun/09
"Look at tall guys like Connery, Eastwood, Hugh Jackman, Eric Bana. These guys
6 + are legit. They always look tall and there is never any doubt about
their shoes. With Arnold there is always the thick shoes with lifts inside (can not be evidence I know). "
Ali says on 26/Jun/09
"Arnold peak height 5'10 inches magic shoes +2 = +2 inches 6ft hollywood
Extra height = 6'2 "
Ali, you contradict itself!
Before you say that you can not prove that he wears lifts, then say that he wears them, in short, clear some your ideas!
Ali says on 26/Jun/09
"Lucio Also you can assume that is 180 cm Nubret all you want.
Why do not you assume he is 6 feet. That would make Arnold 6'3 ".
Worse yet for your ridiculous 5'10 "for Arnold, would say that your argument is even more untenable, and that Arnold is tall 191 cm!
Regarding the viewing angle of my picture, maybe it's taken slightly from below, but even though if it had been better, things would not have changed much.
Finally, I'll check a task Ali: find me a photo on the web between Arnold and Ferrigno side by side barefoot with good viewing angle, because I so far I have not yet found. Vladimir says on 27/Jun/09
Anonymus:"If Arnold was only 6-0 in his prime, all the other bodybuilders like Nubret, Zane, Oliva, etc... would be midgets!!"
Exactly!
Dave Draper, Ric Drasin, Ken Waller are all 6' tall. Arnold is clearly taller. look: Click Here alexiel says on 27/Jun/09
Ali,you re absolutely right,arnold has average height Sashank says on 27/Jun/09
Arnie was somewhere between 6'1.5 and 6'2 when he was the "true arnie" in movies like commando,predator and last action hero.Since 2000 he shrunk hard and you can see that in movies like T3 where kristanna loken kind of dominates him in height.Well.I guess at the moment he is about 5'11.5 Anonymous says on 26/Jun/09
Why does Metric do this?!! If Arnold was only 6-0 in his prime, all the other bodybuilders like Nubret, Zane, Oliva, etc... would be midgets!! Wake up and smell the coffee dude! GeorgeStrombo says on 26/Jun/09
Lucio: Great effort. However, stance wise, you must notice how Arnold's stomach is sucked in and all his abs are visible and his chest is deflated as best as possible (you need to exhale as much as possible and curl the lower back to tense the abs) and he is going for the "proportionate, ripped and aesthetic look" while Ferrigno is trying to go for the "Hurculean look" and expanding his chest and inflating it with air as much as possible by inhaling, which is why his abs are not visible at all.
Due to the fact that Arnold has curled the lower back, he is not as tall in that picture as he could possibly be. If he was going for similar "Hurculean" look of Ferrigno, he might be a few tenths taller around maybe 0.2 - 0.3 of an inch. Ali says on 26/Jun/09
Show me where Ferrigno is measured at 6'4.5
Just saying it makes no point at all. Since you have
seen it, you can show us as well.
Please somebody show a picture of Arnold and
Ferrigno standing side by side in the bodybuilding
contest. There should be no angle. Lucio your picture
is a nice one, but not perfect as the angle is from slightly
below. This makes it impossible to really judge heights differences.
When the camera angle is from below, height differences look less
then they are in reality and people look bigger than they are. This
is done in many hollywood movies.
Even in your picture Lucio, Ferrigno is more than 3 inches
taller. But again a picture without angle is the reall
one I need.
I remember somebody posting such picture where you could
see the left sides of Arnold and Ferrigno. Both were standing
completely straight.
Also Lucio you can assume that Nubret is 180 cm all you want.
Why don't you assume he is 6 feet. That would make Arnold 6'3.
If you want to prove Arnold height,show it without assuming other
people's height. Arnold was never tall. We can see Arnold(with special
shoes) being the same height as Blair(6 feet official height)
A 6'1,6'2 person is a TALL human. Look at Sean Connery,Hugh Jackmann,
Eric Bana. These guys are always tall, they never look 5'10, never.
Nobody is questioning these guys hights. But people are questioning Sly's,
Pitt's, Arnold's and Gibson's. Why? Because these guys wear lifts and every
intelligent,non biased person knows it.
Every time you Arnold fanatics say, well he was barefoot
in the bodybuilding contests. Sure I acknowledge this. Then you go
on '' Reg Park, Draper, Nubret... were this height, so Arnold is 6'2''. If that is true, how do youknow it? Show me where Reg Park is 6'1, show me where Draper is 6 feet and Nubret is 5'11. You CAN'T, because there is absolutely not one shred
of evidence for this!
The only ''evidence'' for Arnold being 6'1.5 is Vince Basille measuring him.
That is no evidence.
Arnold has being lies about his height his whole career. He always wears lifts.
He was about the same height as Roland Dantes who is 5'10. Immediately you
Arnold biased people said the picture was fake, photoshopped.
Also there is the picture of Arnold with Chamberlain and Andre the giant, where
he looks Max 5'11 in that picture.
Georgestrombo you make no sense at all. You said
Arnold was one inch taller than Obama, making Arnold 6'2.25-6'2.5
nowadays. That is quite impressive for somebody who's peak height
was less.
Arnold peak height 5'10 +2 inches magic shoes=6ft+2inches hollywood
extra height=6'2 derek d says on 26/Jun/09
Great picture Lucio. GeorgeStrombo says on 26/Jun/09
By the way, Victor Williams in "King of queens" is 6'6" and not 6'5". Still Ferrigno today is a 6'3" - 6'3.5" max. No doubt he was 6'4.5" in his prime. GeorgeStrombo says on 26/Jun/09
Metric: There we go again. Visit Ferrigno's page on celeb height. He has shrunk to 6'3" now. He used to be 6'4.5" in his prime. He was identical in height to Olympic shot put champion 6'5" Brian Olfield in the 1977 World's strongest man contest. The footage is available everywhere.
Then again, it was stated in his CFL football records when he played for Toronto Argonauts in the late 70s. GeorgeStrombo says on 26/Jun/09
Metric: There we go again. Visit Ferrigno's page on celeb height. He has shrunk to 6'3" now. He used to be 6'4.5" in his prime. He was identical in height to Olympic shot put champion 6'5" Brian Olfield in the 1977 World's strongest man contest. The footage is available everywhere.
Then again, it was stated in his CFL football records when he played for Toronto Argonauts in the late 70s. Zach says on 26/Jun/09
Nice work Lucio. Although I do believe you may be chopping a thin slice of Lou's cranium there. Metric says on 26/Jun/09
Ferrigno has never been close to 6-5. He was towered by legit 6-5 Deacon on King of Queens. He never looked more than 6-3. Vladimir says on 26/Jun/09
Lucio,this is Excellent!! Way to Go, Man!! Lucio says on 26/Jun/09
In response to the Ali to bring a photo comparison between Arnold and Ferrigno with a good viewing angle, there it is satisfied!
I developed this image with a CAD design program, drawing the yellow lines, with good approximation, on the summit of heads of each them.
In order to do this by not precise reference points, I climbed the picture on to Serge Nubret height, assuming that his height is 5'11 "(180 cm found on many websites).
As you can see, I believe to have obtained with good approximation, a good example for comparison.
Obviously I don't pretend that my preparation can be taken as absolute reference, but perhaps a further proof to showing that the Arnold height in his prime, was close to 6'2 ", definitely more than 6'1 ".
You will see that the Arnoldtrolls, Ali for first, their will bring reasons on reasons to discredit and depriving of truthfulness foundation my photos, but many of you, I am sure, will appreciate.
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Don't American football teams measure players? Frank Stallone says on 26/Jun/09
If seen a lot of pics of Arnie in his Prime and he was a strong 6'1" weak 6'2". However from the mid 90's on you could see that he progressively shrunk some to a now height to a about 6.05". I think in your late 40's is when your ligaments really start to contract. His daughter is pretty tall, about as tall as he is now. Guy says on 25/Jun/09
Wow Lynn, you are absolutely one to talk. You've basically made up heights for many individuals since the beginning of time. You've never sourced or backed any of your ridiculous claims even when asked, so you are nothing but a hypocrite. juggernut7 says on 25/Jun/09
sounds pretty accurate 2 me miko says on 25/Jun/09
As for his "real" height at his peak, he probably was slightly closer to 6"1 than 6"2 in the daytime. Out of bed, close to 6"2. Lynn says on 25/Jun/09
GeorgeStrombo says on 24/Jun/09
derek d: Correct. Ferrigno is now shrunk to 6'2.5" - 6'3" while his prime height was 6'4.5". It was measured and officially stated in his record during his football career with CFL Toronto Argonauts.
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Source please.
There is no proof that Ferrigno was ever measured! GeorgeStrombo says on 25/Jun/09
Guy: Excellent post proving how throwing your weight on another person of similar height and compressing him by putting your arm around him will create the illusion of shorter height for the other person.
If Jim did not have his arm thrown on Arnold's shoulder and not compressing him, I could have seen it is a valid comparison.
Another thing you have to consider, Arnold seems extremely humble in that picture, but he was always known for his huge size. Here is Jim's opportunity to brag to his friends that he is bigger than Arnold. Looking at how Jim is posing for the picture, he seems to be doing absolutely everything he can to look bigger than Arnold. That includes puffing his chest out as hard as he can, throwing his weight on Arnold and compressing him by putting his arms around his shoulder and quite possibly (again, possibly) lifting himself up on his toes as his weight is supported by Arnold so he should not have any issues standing on his toes.
Case in point, that picture with Jim proves nothing. If anything, it is that Jim and Arnold are very similar in height that is getting skewed by Jim throwing is weight on Arnold by putting his arm around Arnold's shoulder. Guy says on 24/Jun/09
This whole taking the Jim photo above literally with no consideration for how Jim is riding up on Arnold is pretty limited in thinking. Jim's full weight is imposed on Arnold and not the opposite. Look at how Jim's arm is rigidly barred across Arnold's shoulder and neck while Arnold's arm is barely touching Jim. One half inch or more is VERY easy to lose due to posture which is why the above photo could never be used as a definitive example. Case in point let's compare Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal. Both look very similar in height but if anything Federer looks slightly taller most of the time.
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But then we have Nadal embracing Federer and you'd be forgiven for thinking otherwise. A more extreme example to the Jim photo, but nonetheless Federer does LOOK shorter there. The concept is the same.
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So it really is quite an easy concept to understand. If someone wants to just draw a line from the top of Jim's head to the top of Arnold's head as easy as that, fine. What's stopping you. But the people here who not just think with intelligence but basic common sense know that such a thing is ridiculous. It's either a sign of someone who lacks the ability to understand the most basic concepts or they are completely biased against it. Or both. Roger says on 24/Jun/09
While Arnold could look a legit 6'2'' in the 80s up to the mid 90s, he certainly was not that tall. The photo with Jim shows Arnold's max height must have been 6'1.5'' in the morning. On the photo with Jim, Arnold looks 6'1'' straight. GeorgeStrombo says on 24/Jun/09
derek d: Correct. Ferrigno is now shrunk to 6'2.5" - 6'3" while his prime height was 6'4.5". It was measured and officially stated in his record during his football career with CFL Toronto Argonauts. bob says on 24/Jun/09
Arnold height was full 188 cm, today 188 would be laughable, today he is 185-186cm. That's the fact, he admitted he is 6'1 today. Lucio says on 24/Jun/09
Ali, how much is tall Reg Park? Zach says on 24/Jun/09
Anonymous says on 20/Jun/09
LOL, Arnold was never a strong 6-2.
Probably not, but certainly a 'weak' 6'2 i.e. close to it in the morning. At the very least in the 6'1-1.5 range peak. 177cmmm says on 24/Jun/09
i can believe some people here are saying in his peak Arnold was around 5 f 9 that is the biggest loud of bull i have ever heard. derek d says on 24/Jun/09
Well the actor he is with in the youtube clip is a strong 6'4. Lou looks 1 - 1.25 inches shorter, so he probably shrank to around 6'2 3/4 - 6'3. bam says on 23/Jun/09
ali, I'm sorry but arnold is a legit 6ft. 6'1.5-6'2 peak. There is a 100 percent chance you are wrong. Sorry. runt says on 23/Jun/09
I was listening to an old episode of the Phil Hendrie radio show where Phil mentions meeting Arnold. He said regarding Arnold: "...first of all he's short. I'm 6 feet and he was shorter than me" This could indicate 5-11.5 for Arnold. However, from seeing Phil Hendrie on a few video clips, I tend to say that Phil Hendrie looks a little taller than his 6 foot claim. GeorgeStrombo says on 23/Jun/09
6'2" for Ferrigno according to Ali?? Hahahaha!!! This keeps getting better and better. This is just too funny. I am really beginning to enjoy it now! Guy says on 23/Jun/09
Ali: blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
Everyone, I sooo predicted Ali would begin using the tactic of lowering everyone else's height around Arnold to fit his needs. This guys got no shame or dignity. If Arnold stood barefoot in his prime next to him, he would even lower his OWN height to make Arnold shorter. GeorgeStrombo says on 23/Jun/09
ACG: Scroll below and see what I had written about this Ali program on crack!
Lucio: No need to ask that question, let alone to a demented troll program that throws some of the most unbelievable cr*p on this board that baffles the mind. I am sure it will exactly be a calculated number of 5'9" for Arnold + 5 inches difference = 6'2" prime for Ferrigno.
Ferrigno was measured 6'4.5" for his football career with CFL where he played for Toronto Argonauts. It is archived in his football records. That is iron clad that Ferrigno was 6'4.5". In 1977, he competed for the World's Strongest Man contest where his stats were 6'5". He was just as tall as shot put champ 6'5" Brian Oldfied with both in training shoes so he could even qualify for 6'5". Vladimir says on 23/Jun/09
Ali:Arnolds peak height is somewhere between 177 cm-180cm.
Yeah right, and all of the other bodybuilders are midgets.. give me a brake..
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Watch case is the current height listed by Rob on this site, even if his peak was 6'4 .5 ".
Ali, how much is tall Reg Park? ACG says on 23/Jun/09
Lucio says on 22/Jun/09
Ali, how much is tall Lou Ferrigno?
Are you really turning to Ali for info on someone's height? I assume you're just baiting him to see what ridiculous number he comes up with.
Ali says on 23/Jun/09
Lucio, Lou Ferrigno is 6'2-6'3. Peak height probably half to
inch more. He is a tall guy, but not overly tall.
Ahhh, yes....I was right! 6'2-6'3 for Ferrigno!! I think you've outdone even yourself this time, Ali!!!!! Ali says on 23/Jun/09
Lucio, Lou Ferrigno is 6'2-6'3. Peak height probably half to
inch more. He is a tall guy, but not overly tall.
The idea that Ferrigno might have shrunk 1.5 inch is
really ridiculous. He is in fine health and stands
completely straight. He looks like very healthy and
not like a slightly shrunken older man. He probably
hasn't lost any height at all.
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Clint eastwood has shrunk 2-2.5 inches, but it is very
obvious. There is no such thing with Ferrigno. Maybe
half an inch and max one inch, although I strongly doubt it.
Ferrigno towers over Arnold in the bodybuilding contest
pictures. Please somebody post picture(s) of Arnold and
Ferrigno standing straight side by side. Pictures without
angle.
The Dantes and Conan cast picture shows Arnold being under 6 feet
even in his prime. There is no reason to debate. All this crap of
''look how tall Arnold is compared to..'' is ridiculous as we do not
know their heights so we can't compare.
Arnold never looked tall. He is always wearing his big shoes.
Look at tall guys like Connery, Eastwood, Hugh Jackman, Eric Bana. These guys
are legit 6+. They always look tall and there is never any doubt about
their shoes. With Arnold there is always the thick shoes with lifts inside(can't be prove I know).
Arnold is clearly shorter than Jim in the 1988 picture and
Jim isn't even standing straight.
Arnold is the same height as Blair, Tiger Woods(even slightly shorter).
He is 6 foot nowadays with his very suspect shoes.
Arnold claimed 6'2, but this height was questioned by a newspaper and
he lowered his height to 6 feet. A while ago he said his daugter measured
him at 6'1! The guy is shrinking and getting taller. A freak of nature.
Arnolds peak height is somewhere between 177 cm-180cm.
The rest is lifts which make him 6'0 or 6'0.5. Guy says on 23/Jun/09
Metric: 5'10" + 4 inches = 6'2". Either way you are ducking the observable fact that Arnold towered over him by creating a petty dispute. This isn't the first time you've grossly exaggerated your opponents claims to suit your own tactic. What is this 5-11 + (at least) 4 inches = 6-3, possibly more like 6-4!! You've just further exampled the STRAW MAN even while trying to defend yourself of that accusation. Dude, whatever prescription you're on, cut the dose. Metric says on 23/Jun/09
GeorgeStrombo says on 19/Jun/09
...Yet, Roger Walker always competed in the "Tall man category". He is listed at either 5'10" or 5'11" and 230 pounds competition weight. Yet, Arnold is towering over him by atleast 4 inches.
Do the math, Guy:
5-11 + (at least) 4 inches = 6-3, possibly more like 6-4!!
Where is the straw man argument, Guy!??
= OWNAGE!
;) Lucio says on 23/Jun/09
Ali complains that we don't believe him, but I can ask myself the same question: why should we believe to idiocy Ali? Big King says on 22/Jun/09
Schwarzenegger used his morning height too. Nowadays he's not less than 6'1". GeorgeStrombo says on 22/Jun/09
Lucio: No need to ask that question, let alone to a demented troll program that throws some of the most unbelievable cr*p on this board that baffles the mind. I am sure it will exactly be a calculated number of 5'9" for Arnold + 5 inches difference = 6'2" prime for Ferrigno.
Ferrigno was measured 6'4.5" for his football career with CFL where he played for Toronto Argonauts. It is archived in his football records. That is iron clad that Ferrigno was 6'4.5". In 1977, he competed for the World's Strongest Man contest where his stats were 6'5". He was just as tall as shot put champ 6'5" Brian Oldfied with both in training shoes so he could even qualify for 6'5". Anonymous says on 22/Jun/09
Good observation Guy... "evidence vs. tactics" - good way to break it down.. seems like the short Arnie supporters can't ever give any concrete proof. They just pull stuff from their asses. Photographic evidence like stuff you, George and a few other guys put up is proof in the pudding. In the end we need them anyways to keep this site fun. Kinda like how good needs evil. GeorgeStrombo says on 22/Jun/09
anonymous99: I knew Arnold's hands were huge (as were Ferrigno's) even when I was a kid and saw him on Larry King where he waved his hand with open palm while talking and promoting "Last Action Hero". A few times Larry King's hand were in front of Arnold and they looked absolutely tiny compared to Arnold's massive hands. His hands and feet are giant. His palms are absolutely flat and really wide. Lucio says on 22/Jun/09
Ali, how much is tall Lou Ferrigno? Hugh 190cm says on 22/Jun/09
187-188cm peak and 183-184cm now. Guy says on 22/Jun/09
Lynn: did you not read the post that went with the picture? Does Bridgette have an abnormal gigantism cone head? Look at Arnold's eye level compared to Bridgette's. Arnold is still taller in that photo. Bridgette's hair is obviously mushroomed up through that head piece. That explains the conflict with her eye level. Women usually have shorter foreheads anatomically anyways. It's official. Lynn: you have never been accurate.
I've noticed that various posters, mostly Metric, Ali and Lynn, don't rely on evidence and facts but rather tactics. It's not so much how they can show Arnold looks a certain way but how he can SEEM to look a certain way. An example is Metric's strong tendency to use STRAW MAN arguments. This is a TACTIC that portrays an opponents argument as being ridiculous by falsely promoting incorrect facts on their behalf. They can then make their position stronger by dismissing this accused position, and hopefully come off sounding authoritative while making their opponent seem foolish. Metric has done this several times. Most recently he accused Georgestrombo of thinking Arnold looks 6'3"-6'4". No one has ever proposed Arnold is/was that height. Yet he attempts to make GS seem like some kind of idiot for something he never proposed himself to begin with.
Ali: well one thing is evident-he's a broken record. He's barely until very recently accounted for what his opponents have demanded of him. Many questions and demands have gone his way to which he's NEVER given response. It really is like a computer program that just randomly posts a series of a few messages= "He's 5'10" plus his 2 inch magic lifts." That's about the extent of his "argument". Ali has had a very hard time delivering any evidence for this claim. We have just only heard his empty statements and never any evidence to prove anything. Ali has scoured the internet for photos of Arnold ( avoiding the mountains of photos that show he was over 6' of course) to reinforce his original claim. This shows his claim was not at all based on evidence originally but his own feeling. It's his personal desire. He's always promoted the same position without any evidence. But he finally thinks he's "found" the proof after years of searching in an ambiguous photo where he thinks Arnold is standing barefoot on his tip toes and the other guy is in shoes. He's so warped to think this strange photo should be more powerful than the tons of other photos existing that say otherwise. That shows how closed minded and selective he is, and how ignorant he is towards anything that doesn't support his agenda.
Ali's second tactic is to propose to me to find a photo or film that clearly shows Arnold being measured by Vince Basille when he was measured at 6'1 1/2". Otherwise Ali is making the claim Arnold's measured height should be dismissed because it wasn't photographed or filmed. This is another STRAW MAN argument. Ali has himself upped the acceptable status of evidence to only include film documentary. There must be film footage of Arnold being measured by Vince Basille or else Ali won't believe anything. If that's the case, much of what you've learned about human history should be dismissed as the photograph and motion picture are relatively recent inventions. 177cmmm says on 22/Jun/09
Hey george strambo i agree with you that there is not 5 inches between ferringo and arnold but there is clearly a diffrence. I do believe in his peak arnold was at least 6ft 1 he was standing around almost naked without shoes most of the time people would know if he was less than 6ft tall. he claims 6 2 i believe him franco claimed himself 6 4.5 in his prime but people would round him of to 6 5 to make him seem impressive. i would say in the afternoon arnold was about
6ft 1.5 and ferringo 6ft 4 the diffrence betwen the 2 is is about 2 to 2 1/2 inches this makes sense to me. anonymous99 says on 22/Jun/09
Damon Igou, yes arnold does have the hands of a giant, if you all ever seen The End of Days, pay close to the last part of the movie where the girl is holding onto his hands, they look absolutely huge. Michael says on 21/Jun/09
Arnie's not as tall as I thought...I always thought he was a giant, way over 6'. But 6' is not that tall... derek d says on 21/Jun/09
Damon Igou says on 21/Jun/09
I met Arnold in 2001. We worked out together and ate breakfast. I got a picture as well. Anyway I am 74"...if anything he is a little taller than me. When we shook hands, I was floored by how huge his hands are......It's like he has the hands of a giant. I was impressed with his strength and endurance...He is still very impressive after all of these years....I hope to be in as good of shape when I am his age
Then would you mind posting the picture? LOL. Damon Igou says on 21/Jun/09
I met Arnold in 2001. We worked out together and ate breakfast. I got a picture as well. Anyway I am 74"...if anything he is a little taller than me. When we shook hands, I was floored by how huge his hands are......It's like he has the hands of a giant. I was impressed with his strength and endurance...He is still very impressive after all of these years....I hope to be in as good of shape when I am his age GeorgeStrombo says on 21/Jun/09
Ali is royally f*cking stupid. 5 inches difference between Arnold and Ferrigno?? Ferrigno himself claimed Arnold was 6'2" in an interview and that he was Ferrigno's idol because he was the first tall man similar to himself in height that became the world bodybuilding champion shattering the myth that very tall men cannot become world champions in bodybuilding.
In an interview 2 months ago with Muscles and Fitness, Ferrigno said "Arnold's large frame could have easily allowed him to carry 280 - 290 pounds of muscle today". Ferrigno himself claims Arnold was 6'2" and called him closest to Ferrigno himself in height, you stupid F!
Anyone who sees 4 - 5 inches between barefoot Ferrigno and barefoot Arnold side by side in this picture is royally demented. Again Ferrigno himself claimed Arnold was 6'2" and "similar to himself in height"
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Ali is royally f*cking stupid. 5 inches difference between Arnold and Ferrigno?? Ferrigno himself claimed Arnold was 6'2" in an interview and that he was Ferrigno's idol because he was the first tall man similar to himself in height that became the world bodybuilding champion shattering the myth that very tall men cannot become world champions in bodybuilding.
In an interview 2 months ago with Muscles and Fitness, Ferrigno said "Arnold's large frame could have easily allowed him to carry 280 - 290 pounds of muscle today". Ferrigno himself claims Arnold was 6'2" and called him closest to Ferrigno himself in height, you stupid F!
Anyone who sees 4 - 5 inches between Ferrigno and Arnold in this picture is royally demented.
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George Strombo, your continuous needs to chop 3" off of Franco Columbo's listed height destroys all credibility you are trying to establish. Franco was NOT only 5'2" for crying out loud. He was taller than 5'2"-5'3" Danny Padilla in 1981 BAREFOOT. J.J. says on 21/Jun/09
Looked 6'0.75"-6'1" on Jay Leno show adam says on 21/Jun/09
He was near 6-2 peak. Nowadays a lot shorter. Jay says on 21/Jun/09
Bush is 5ft 11 or at least was when he stood by Blair. Arnold doesn't wear lifts. He appears to be 6 foot (1.5 inches shorter than peak height) every time presents the Arnold Classis statue to the winner of his show. 177cmmm says on 21/Jun/09
I think Arnold only uses lifts now because hes lost some of his height and as a politician extra height gives the impression of power. Anonymous says on 21/Jun/09
Ali is right about George Bush's height though. Bush is no taller than 5-10 and could be as low as 5-9. Bush looked no taller than 5-9 standing next to 6-1 1/4 measured Glenn Dorsey. GeorgeStrombo says on 20/Jun/09
Arnold wears shorts and normal, casual running shoes outside office on sundays. You can clearly see how long his feet are consistent with the shoe company's claims where Arnold buys his shoes from that he is a size 13 (US):
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According to Editor Rob, these exact shoes do not add more than 0.8 - 0.9 inches max. He is also walking exactly like he does when he wears dress shoes.
In Pumping Iron, ff Arnold was not 6'1.5" or so, the tiny lady in this picture must be complete midget at 4'5". The lady was actually slightly shorter than 5'2" Franco Columbo, which means she was no shorter than 5'.
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As obvious from this picture of barefoot Franco and barefoot Arnold, Franco does not even reach Arnold's shoulder level, which is a clear indication Arnold was 1 complete foot taller than Franco. Franco was no shorter than 5'2" and weighed 190 pounds, Arnold was clearly 6'1.5" - 6'2" in this picture:
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Arnold's famous hunch that made him lose several inches in height due to posture:
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Yet, in reality Arnold barefoot was several inches taller than dress shoe-clad 5'10" - 5'11" Joe Weider:
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LOL, Arnold was never a strong 6-2. Ali says on 20/Jun/09
Ferrigno towered over Arnold. 2.5 inches difference between
Arnold and Ferrigno would only be 6 cm or so. No way. Ferrigno
towered over Arnold. Closer to 4-5 inches difference. GeorgeStrombo says on 20/Jun/09
Metric: Again your Bronstein cr*p is coming back. Robert Duvall taller than Arnold in 6th day?? Are you kidding me?? Arnold towers over him by several inches in every scene.
Do you know the villain in 6th day Tony Goldwyn is 6'1"?? Arnold looks exactly as tall as him. Did you know Michael Rappaport (sidekick of Arnold) was 6'4" and Arnold looked roughly 3 inches shorter than him. Arnold was looking 6'1" in 6th day. Definitely not 6'2", but nothing less than 6'1" either.
Regarding Arnold competitive weight, Arnold was 240 pounds in his competition weight with only 6% bodyfat. He was never huge in his competition form. He was only big, but not huge unless he was in his off-season 260 pounds weight. His waist was only 33 inches. There is no way a 275 pounds 6'2" guy could have a 33 inches waist.
Look at Paul Dillet who is about Arnold's height of 6'2" weighing 270 pounds at the Mr. Olympia. He looks way more huge than Arnold ever did in his competition weight. Arnold weighed 250 - 260 pounds in his off-season weight.
Ferrigno was 2.5 inches taller than Arnold, yet he weighed 268 pounds in the 1975 Olympia vs Arnold's 6'1.5" - 6'2" at 230 pounds. Ferrigno was carrrying more fat and bigger than Arnold, yet could not compete at 275 pounds. How the hell would you expect Arnold to weigh 275 pounds competition weight when Ferrigno could not do it at 6'4.5"??
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Arnold looks every bit as 2 - 2.5 inches shorter than Ferrigno and is a strong 6'2". Doug says on 20/Jun/09
At his peak Arnie had one of the world's most developed physiques. Lets not forget how extraordinary he was in his prime. With Arnie its always been about physique rather than how tall he was. Nowadays however his body is a wreck after all those years of heavy intensive training and he has let himself go. He has lost a good 2 inches in height. P>S I've seen the Conan image on Wilt Chamberlains page and I agree Arnie looked like a small boy in comparison and looked about 5'11". At peak he was 6'1.5", 6'2" out of bed which is reasonably tall but is obviously dwarfed by the giants. Metric says on 20/Jun/09
Arnold looks far from tall in almost all of his movies.
In 6th day he looks borderline shortish. EVERYONE of the male cast are taller.
In some scenes Robert Duvall even looks taller!
Arnold has never been 6-2. He would have weighed 275 lbs. He weighed 240. Do the math. Anonymous says on 20/Jun/09
I might not agree with Ali but he brings some strong points as well. Arnold looks 5-11 tops with Wilt. |
