Brad says on 7/Nov/09
"I met Sly for 20 years in all types of footware (sic) who have you met, your postman?" "I'm 5 feet 8, Rob, tell Brad to stop saying I'll measure under 5' 7", I'm serious". Imagine hearing "Bud, ya gotta move, we got hotel guests who need to get in and taxi drivers who need to get by" a thousand times...that's sorta like being at Rikers Island hearing bells every 1/2 hour. The G. Burby, bake him a cake with a sharpie on top.

Anonymous says on 6/Nov/09
Rising needs to understand that Sly isn't a 5'9" man, just ask Rome, they have a pic to prove it. 5'9.5" is a lame joke for sly. Glenn yelling and hollering "5'10.75" lowered this site to the bottom.

Brad says on 6/Nov/09
Jackie is short in every photo, to say she is 5' 6" is ridiculous, Sly would be 5' 10". "Maybe he is under 5' 9" now". Hey G, you hear that. "Who have you met your...., I've met him in all...., he's 5' 10.75""

Harry Lime says on 6/Nov/09
I met Tom Cruise. He is not 5-8. Im 6-2 and I was a head taller.

RisingForce says on 5/Nov/09
Wrong, Brad. I don't have an over 5'10" agenda right now. I'll say that at this point even a hair OVER 5'10" in the 70's, 80's, 90's or recent is 95% impossible IMO. Maybe he's even under 5'9" now, but I believe somewhere in the 5'9"-5'10" range at one point in his life. I'll man up and say he's not 5'10.5" nor 5'10.75" and never was. I was wrong on that.

Yes, he did give illusions of a 5'11" man who is even taller with his lifts from about 2004-2007 to me, but maybe that was his weight gain that made him seem bigger overall.

And back to Jackie Stallone's height. Who said she was actually 5'6"? I said that was the only listing that came up and even that was hard to find. I said there's basically no evidence to give her ANY height. So you giving her 5'4" because you see 4.5" between her and Sly and that would fit your estimate is nothing short of ridiculous.

Just admit it, that photo with his mother is worthless as of now because we have no idea how tall she is or was.

Brad says on 5/Nov/09
You got Sly right at 5' 8.5", Cruise is a tad shorter with G Volvo'd at 5' 7".

Danimal says on 5/Nov/09
Brad says on 5/Nov/09
Caan has never been 5' 9" since Nixon was in office. What kid of idiot thinks Mama Stallone is 5' 6"?, that would make Sly in G actualized guessed height. Rising still has that over 5' 10" agenda for this guy who has never been over 5' 9" in his life. Cruise is 5' 8" in military, Stallone 5' 9" in his "effect". Hey Burby I got great G tales that can't be printed here. I'm sure Rob has some also. We should be glad he's gone, and not just for his ridiculous height affirmations of green cheese on the moon like Willis and Sly & himself...GC had mas grande problemas.

Cruise is 5'7" in military posture and Sly 1-1.5" taller.

Brad says on 5/Nov/09
I'd market NYC sandals for those who are 5' 6" or under who are doing scenes with Sly. Woody sandals would be fine, Farrell mocassins too. Downey Jr. can buy some Morristown Bronx Portmans, hopefully a dark color.

burby says on 5/Nov/09
Saw Copland again yesterday, guess what I saw? An under 5'9" Stallone. Maybe Harvey Keitel is 5'9"? I can't believe there are people here who think this guy is 5'10", especially after that Rome photo with Sly in regular shoes. Maybe Jen really was in NYC sandals.......

Don says on 5/Nov/09
Well Sheen is slouching in the first two pictures and even with the slouch, he doesn't seem all that much shorter than sly really. Third picture is not a good one as sheen is pretty much bending forward.

I could see sheen being roughly sly's height or maybe a tad bit shorter if he straightens out making him 5'10, assuming he's wearing normal footwear. Sheen's hardly known as a lift wearer so that's probably the case. That being said, sly's probably got at least an inch on sheen in footwear anyway but we will never know.

Brad says on 5/Nov/09
Caan has never been 5' 9" since Nixon was in office. What kid of idiot thinks Mama Stallone is 5' 6"?, that would make Sly in G actualized guessed height. Rising still has that over 5' 10" agenda for this guy who has never been over 5' 9" in his life. Cruise is 5' 8" in military, Stallone 5' 9" in his "effect". Hey Burby I got great G tales that can't be printed here. I'm sure Rob has some also. We should be glad he's gone, and not just for his ridiculous height affirmations of green cheese on the moon like Willis and Sly & himself...GC had mas grande problemas.

Parker says on 5/Nov/09
Here's some pics with Charlie Sheen, and another with Sheen and Danny Devito.

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He looks taller than Sheen in the pictures, and I know a lot of you will shout 'lifts', but reading what people say about lifts on this site, I sometimes think some people think Stallone and Cruise are the same height as Devito and wear 12 inch lifts to disguise it haha!!

5'9 barefoot for Sly is a realistic and sensible estimation. 5'7 is even more ludicrous than 5'11 in my opinion.

Aleks says on 4/Nov/09
Caan looked 5-10 in The Godfather. But again, it could be the footwear.

Midget says on 4/Nov/09
I watched an early sly movie yesterday, "Over The Top", and to me he never looked over 5'8"-5'8.5" plus boots in every scene.He was much smaller than most other male actors in the film. Defenitely not over 5'9".

RisingForce says on 4/Nov/09
See, exactly what I'm talking about. Brad just magically gives Jackie Stallone a height of 5'4" to fit his agenda.

And as far as Flavin's height. It's true that women might lie, but Kate Moss(at 5'4"-5'5") would certainly have more incentive to lie than Flavin who regardless of her exact height is quite a bit taller than Moss.

derek d says on 4/Nov/09
One thing that always struck me was Sly's 5'10 claim. I mean most celebrities who are even a little self conscious about their height will lie and add AT LEAST 2 inches to their height. This usually goes for 5'7 to 5'10 men and I can name a hand full that are taller than 6 ft. Sly is probably the most self conscious of them all, so why would he just push up his height one inch in his claim?

burby says on 4/Nov/09
James Caan next to his 5'5" son Scott
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That's not 5'9" next to his son. Sorry if Glenn didn't meet him, but Brad did.

Brad says on 4/Nov/09
Jackie Stallone has never been over 5' 4" in her life. 5' 6" is a laugher. Sly was a solid 5' 8.5" next to her barefoot. Stop wasting your time with the Sly is over 5' 9". He got burnt in Rome and on the beach. Riser was a "yer right G" guy for years. A Portmanized 5' 6.5"er thinking Sly is 1/4" under 5' 11" was what we had as the expert height witness.

vaj says on 4/Nov/09
Zach thanks for previous comments I have been very busy at work so I don't get to get on here as much. The pic's from Rome clearly proofs he is NOT 5'10", 5’10.5", 5’11", 6’, 6’1" as posted about his height. If you are not blind the Rome pictures prove he was shorter than his 5'9 wife! He was caught trying on regular shoes next to his wife in sandals. I guess that also prove G's was wrong when you claimed Sly being 5'11" in sandals in one of his pic's.

Zach says on 4/Nov/09
Two very good points Mickey. Flavin was a model, the usual female range for which being 5'8-5'11. In the modelling field, the taller the better. If you were a male model you'd rather be 6'1 than 5'11, even though both are above average height.

And since we are using extremely weak evidence, sure lets use Glenn's estimates for Flavin. Glenn said she was 'around his height' and 'between 5'7-9'. So clutching at what is now a handful of straws, Flavin is somewhere between 5'6.75 and 5'9.5 not saying she is but its just plain silly to rule anything in that range out. In fact lets be fair about this and use the midpoint. Flavin is 5'8.125 based on all the evidence we have. Settled.

Brad says on 4/Nov/09
Zach attack on the Riser. Imagine G here now, he'd be crying in his cocoa puffs "I seen him 20 times, sob, in awl types of footware, and I prooved it with my photos at 5' 8", sob, he's 5' 10.5" lowest at over 60 years old sob, Flavin owned me by 1.5". I hear he said he was busy on April 9th 2010. Sal, the Volvo.

Annoyed says on 4/Nov/09
Flavin is 5'9" in my opinion.

Mickey says on 3/Nov/09
Well she did used TO BE A MODEL, Kate Moss claimed 5'6" for years and we know she is 5'4"-5'5". Saying Jennifer looks tall is pretty irrelevant as the only person to compare her too is Sly most of the time. You could say she has tall proportions but so does Kylie Monique who is 5'1" or so.

And who is to say she isn't shorter than 5'9"? Glenn said he saw her at 5'7" if i remember correctly, not saying she is. She could be 5'8.5" and rounded it up a whole inch. The whole "specific height figure must be true" theory is bogus to me as i could say im 5'9.72." and that would be true(which it isn't).

Even with all that, she was noticably taller then Sly at Rome, she really did make Sly looks 5'7ish factoring in his slight shoe advantage and her posture compared to his. Showing me mid-stride pictures on a sloping beach is not going to sway me. But these are my views anyway.

Brad says on 3/Nov/09
To those who were not here in '06, there were lots of people who accepted the height expert ("I seen him in all types of footwear 20 times, he's 5' 10.75" who have you met your postman?") G and his crew of "He's over 5' 10"". Rome and beach photos just nail what Frank2 saw: under 5' 9" or 5' 9" in military effect.

RisingForce says on 3/Nov/09
One thing I find funny is whenever I say something here it's because I'm a "delusional fanboy", but if someone else says it then nobody cares. for example, Bam ALSO said he thought Flavin was 5-9.5. Did anyone call him ridiculous? Did anyone say he was grasping at straws or did anyone say he was a fanboy? Nope. Why? When I say that I get those reactions.

Here's an even better(and funnier) example. Many of you, particularly Zach, love to say I have an agenda. But yet, when Brad CLEARLY twists things to fit a 5'8.5" Sly. You stay silent. Why? Because you agree with his figure.

Remember when Brad was constantly using the barefoot picture of Sly with his mother? He just pulled a 5'4" figure out of nowhere for Jackie Stallone because it fit his 5'8.5" belief. Except one problem. Not only were there no pictures of jackie standing with known celebs for a reference to her height, but she was also NEVER listed at 5'4". In fact the ONE listing that did come up was in a People Magazine article that Leonari found that had her at 5'6".

Except Zach and the rest were silent, rather than calling Brad out about his obvious agenda, nobody said a word. Which makes it obvious that it's ok to have an agenda as long as it fits your belief.

I'll give Danimal credit though, he was consistent and has called out Brad for having an agenda as well on the Cruise page. And I'll give Mickey credit as well. Rather than reacting like Zach did, he merely asked he to explain my opinion. Which is exactly how these debates should go.

Another good example was recently when Burby tried to twist the pictures of Sly and Glenn into evidence that he's 5'8.5" and when I pointed out the flaws in that(one being that Glenn's height is up for debate and it's not proven he's as low as 5'6.5") and another being that the difference between the 2 was about 2.5", something that Rob agreed on. When I pointed that out, a few said "That shows how desperate you are, using the Glenn pictures to support your argument that he's 5'9"-5'10". The problem was that I wasn't using that as any kind of proof, just pointing out that he didn't look 5'8.5" in the pictures either. Yet I'm called out and not Burby who was using the pictures to support his argument.

I'd love to see someone claim there are no double standards. I admit, that really use to get under my skin, but after seeing how blatant it is, I honestly find it funny. I'm predicting that Zach will use his favorite "essay" comment referring to my long post, or something similar. If I bother any of you that much then just ignore my comments.

RisingForce says on 3/Nov/09
Hahah, when did I say beach photos are GREAT evidence, Anonymous? I said they're one of the few times we see Sly barefoot and they shouldn't just be ignored. I don't ignore evidence anonymous. I said that he looks 5'8.5" in those Rome pictures, and read my other post, I said that he could be that low these days. But keep reaching. And how is "inflating" Jennifer to 5-9.5 ridiculous? A half inch higher than you have her is ridiculous? Ok buddy that makes sense.


Except for one difference, Zach. Jennifer at 5-9ish is a woman WELL over average height for a woman(which is 5'3.5" give or take). That's equal to a 6-2ish man. Whether Sly is 5'8", 5'9" or 5'10" we know he's a man who is a modest height, particularly for an action star and he's clearly bothered by that fact. His incentive to deceive people about his height is far greater.

Yeah, she's listed at 5-9 across the net, but guess what? Most of the listings originate at I M D B. Watch when someone is listed at something on that site, most other sites follow that listing. I noticed this twice with 2 of Brad Pitt's listings at I M D B. When he was listed at 5-10.75, many other sites listed him at that, same thing when he was changed to 5-11.5. I pointed that out before, but you ignored that or didn't see it. The 5-9.5 figure was printed in an actual newspaper atleast. I'm not saying you have to agree with it, but to act like it's crazy is nonsensical.

And 3 years? It's November 2009 right now, I didn't start posting on the Sly page regularly until shortly before Glenn was first banned which iirc was in June or July 2008. So I've probably been posting on this page for a year and half and not that often until Glenn's first ban. I first starting posting on this site on some heavy metal musicians pages about 2 years ago. I changed my estimate for Sly about a year after I started posting here regularly.

How is saying Caan is around 5'9" upgrading? You downgraders are absolutely ridiculous. Caan is listed at 5'9" here, he's taller than 5'8" Mark Wahlberg on the golf course and he held his own with Bruce Willis and Arnie at the Rocky Balboa premiere. Glenn never saw Caan in person, he just always thought he was 5'8". And I love how you ignore Glenn's estimates when they're too high for you and you mock his estimates constantly, but when one of them fits your agenda you gladly use it.

You can't have it both ways, either his estimates are reliable to you or they're not. Either he can judge height or he can't. Besides here's what Glenn said on the Caan page, note the part where he said that he never met him.

Glenn says on 30/Jul/06
Never met him.but can look between 5-7 and 5-10.people I do know that met him say 5-8.no doubt he is on the short side.5-7 minimum.

Don says on 3/Nov/09
"Plus I tend to think that such a specific figure may come from somewhere." So THAT's why you were pushing for our boy sly at 5'10.75 for the longest time. It all makes sense now. I mean it MUST come from somewhere right, lol.

What makes you suppose that we think Flavin is 5'9 with 100% conviction? We are just going by what she's listed at in 90% of sites out there, which is the most logical thing to do at this point as we are devoid of pictures that show her standing straight with conclusive footwear beside someone other than sly. Whether she's 5'9 or not, she's well above average height for a woman so she has no reason to fudge her height unlike our boy here. It makes plenty of more sense than you using your gorilla math, adding and subtracting inches as you please and spitting out 5'9.5 out of left field.

"Once again, I think 5'9.5" is believable for several reasons. She looks tall even to be that height" She looks tall in flat sandals...next to sly. I would look like andre the giant next to danny devito. A girl who is 5'6+ and up would look tall in heels in any picture. What is more ridiculous is your basis for thinking that flavin's 5'9.5; bringing up bridgette nielson out of left field, see how stallone roughly measures up to her even though there exists no picture that shows both of them standing straight with clear footwear. Then comparing that so called measurement with how flavin mesaures up. At least you have a ton of imagination. But anything to bump up sly's height right?

As Rob G said, even if flavin is 5'9.5 that doesn't change much from how sly measured up with her in rome. But you will probably cry your usual "oh but it's just 1 PICTURE" and prepare a thesis to bump flavin to 5'10. Nothing would shock me though. After all here's a guy who rallied for 5'10.75 for sly the longest time and even teammed with glenn trying to convince posters that sly claims his "night height" of 5'10.

Anonymous says on 3/Nov/09
Correctomundo Dejavu. Rising inflating Flavin to 5'9.5" is ridiculous. Rising ignores great evidence, but yet suggests horrible beach photos of sly and flavin are GREAT evidence just to solidify his near 5'10" sly claim.

Rob G says on 3/Nov/09
Even if Flavin is indeed 5'9.5" that still doesn't change much (see Rome pictures). Sly is clearly shorter than her, he is no taller than 5'9".

RisingForce says on 3/Nov/09
It's funny because I could say the same thing. I could say that you say she's 5'9" instead of 5'9.5" to downgrade his height. There's no more evidence that shes 5'9" than 5'9.5".

Once again, I think 5'9.5" is believable for several reasons. She looks tall even to be that height and if she's already close enough to 5'9" why would she bump her height by a half inch? Plus I tend to think that such a specific figure may come from somewhere. Just like Marlon Brando being listed as 5'8 3/4" in a biography(which caused Rob to downgrade him to that). So it's not just me who thinks that such specific figures may come from somewhere.

I think the fairest thing would be to give her a range of 5'9"-5'9.5" for now, but ruling out 5'9.5" makes zero sense to me.

Zach says on 3/Nov/09
RisingForce says on 2/Nov/09
it's such a specific figure for height and weight that it was likely her claim.

Isn't that the same excuse you gave when you and Glenn tried to push the bizarre 'Sly is 5'10.75 cos it so specific' campaign day and night for three years?? Every result on the net says Flavin is 5'9. One aberrant one says 5'9.5 and bingo, latest straw to clutch at to make Sly seem taller.

Brad says on 3/Nov/09
Caan hasn't been 5' 9" in decades. Yes Zach, if G were here he'd be laughed off this site with his 5' 10.75". Explain the beach photo. "Jennifah is much tallah den 5' 9", she was tallah dan me by 3 inches". Here's a cookie G, Fred Durst will be out in 2 hours.

burby says on 3/Nov/09
Rising also thinks Caan is 5'9" in order to push up the height for Stallone. Both Brad and Glenn saw him at 5'8". Caan had some serious heel action in the movie Thief.

DejaVu says on 2/Nov/09
Rising thinks Jennifer is 5'9.5 in order to push up the height for Sylvester Stallone.

Zach says on 2/Nov/09
If Sly is 5'10.75 surely Jennifer Flavin is a 6 footer? 5'11 at least.

Don says on 2/Nov/09
There is really no valid reason for thinking flavin is 5'9.5 over 5'9 unless you want to bump up sly's height which is in some people's agenda obviously. I mean based on what proof are some of you willing to give her that extra 0.5 inch?

A vast majority of her pics are with sly whose height is the biggest mystery in the world, or with her in inconclusive (in terms height) heels on so there is no distinct clear cut way of judging that she's 5'9.5 instead of 5'9. hell, she might even shrink more than that throughout the day. Barefoot beach pics are not reliable due to uneven ground level, as mentioned ten million times already. Take a walk on the beach with a person close to your height and you will see exactly what i mean. Neither are walking pics of any kind.

RisingForce says on 2/Nov/09
A few reasons Mickey. As Bam pointed out, it's such a specific figure for height and weight that it was likely her claim. It seems odd for an obviously tall woman to begin with to claim such a specific figure.

And how is me giving her 5'9.5", any different than others here assuming she's just 5'9"? But unfortunately, you're right, there isn't much good evidence on her height. I saw a picture of her with James Caan who I feel is about 5'9" these days, but we couldn't see how big her heels and his shoes were. If there are more from that series then maybe that could give us a reference to start. But I'd also imagine her being taller than Katie Holmes for example(listed here at 5'9"). And she seems taller compared to Sly than 5'8"-5'8.5" Sharon Stone. And if you compare what Sly looked like next to 6-0ish Brigitte Nielsen then 5-9.5 for Flavin isn't that hard to believe. It seems that at a lot of events Sly was looking similar to Nielsen who I think rarely wore heels and it seems that Sly is usually similar to Flavin at events when she's in heels.

I'm not giving her 5-9.5 as a confirmed height, don't get me wrong, but it makes atleast as much sense to me as 5-9.

Mickey says on 2/Nov/09
Rising may i ask why you think Jennifer is 5'9.5"? She is never really pictured with anyone else but Sly and/or is wearing decent heels. Even in her pics with Arnie she is wearing heels and we don't know if Arnie is packing lifts, he height is also widely disputed nowadays too. Don't tell me because one article on the net claimed that height, she used to be a model, they always bump up their heights. Even if multiple articles claimed that height, they have been many articles saying Sly is 5'7-5'8", doesn't mean its true.

Brad says on 2/Nov/09
Damon the same height as Pitt & Clooney is as bad as G saying he is 5' 8" or Sly is 5' 10.75" or Willis is 6' 1". File under Sean Penn's smirk with Emile Hirsch. "The worst time". He was so free that day in that Volvo reading his magazines and having Sal deliver the bags of fries n shakes it isn't funny. Hey Joey I got 4, dats right four! signed Fred Durst baseball caps for ya. I only wanted 2 hours diss time in da dwizzle. George The Animal Steele tongue out face. Stallone 5 feet 8 and a half: bank it.

Brad says on 1/Nov/09
Imagine Rising saying he could be as low as 5' 8.5" 3 years ago, freaking G would be crying on his way in the drizzle to stand 3 hours waiting for Fred Durst to sign a red baseball cap. Put him on a beach with his 5' 9" wife and the gig is up.

burby says on 1/Nov/09
Yeah, Rob picked the worst time imaginable - how dare he!. The Rome shots hurt Sly, and some here want to upgrade Jens height. Going by a beach photo on the sand? Damon almost the same size as Clooney and Pitt? That does not compute, like Gs Colin Farrell 5'11" estimate.

Brad says on 1/Nov/09
G said 1/4" shy of 5' 11", he's the height expert. He never prooved, er proved it. Sal, remember the Big Mac by 4.

RisingForce says on 1/Nov/09
When did I doubt Damon's height? I simply said that at worst he could be 5'9.5" or a weak 5'10". I still have him at 5'10", but I'm not going to pretend like I have him nailed to that last half inch with 100% certainty.

I agree with Parker, except if anything, I saw Sly a half inch taller in the beach photo with Flavin. And he could be as low as 5'8.5"-5'9" IMO now at 63 yrs. old. But definitely taller IMO when he was younger and he made Rocky 3. And I agree with Bam, I think Flavin is more like 5'9.5".

Parker says on 1/Nov/09
Murdock says on 31/Oct/09
Sly was 5'7" flat.

Ridiculous. Look at the beach photo's with his 5'9 wife. He's her height or at most a 1/2 inch shorter. 5'9 is fair listing for Sly, he may be 5'81/2 now in his 60's, but no way as low as 5'7.

Murdock says on 31/Oct/09
Sly was 5'7" flat. The only way he could have looked 5'10" or so was in lifts. Some stars wildly exaggerate their height.

burby says on 31/Oct/09
Gee, now even Rising is doubting 5'10" for Damon. So much for "Rob" having him "nailed", more like Matt nailing the G man to a crucifix with the Bourne booties. Redford and Clooney look down on Matt when he doesn't have the lifts on. Don Cheadle has never been 5'8" in his life, he is yet another lift wearer. That Clooney shot was funny.

bam says on 31/Oct/09
i see damon at 5'10 or really close to it. Clooney and Pitt are all over the place. Cheadle claims 5'8.5 (because he is) so that makes damon 5'10.

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Shaun says on 31/Oct/09
drak avenger says on 30/Oct/09
cmn just look at the guy in shower scene with sharon stone in specialist(or was it sliver) was exactly the same height as her and she is said that she is 5-7 so this guy has to be only 5-7

Are you blind? For a start Sharon Stone is 5 ft 8 (and claims 5'8.5") and Stallone was taller than her.

Brad says on 31/Oct/09
Box work with Cooney. That's a classic Sly shot. The 5' 8.5"er getting destroyed by by a 6' 6", like me. I'm sure Sly did it for fun. Clooney did it for an Esquire shot with a 6' model but showed it for fun. Yes Burby, sometimes I think yer me, that's 100% correct. At 5' 6.5" G got owned by every single male celeb except the shrimps. He made Colin, Woody, Damon, look taller than they are with that reality height and 5' 8" listed as the G height under his pictures.

derek d says on 31/Oct/09
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Here is Sly standing next to 6'6 boxer Gerry Cooney.

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In this shot he appears to be standing on some sort of box for a picture, and is now even in height with him. Interesting.

Brad says on 30/Oct/09
The G said 1/4" from 5' 11". Hey Burby, I woulda loved ya here in '06. I still think yer Vaj homes. You woulda been thrown off here also saying G was 5' 7" and then 1/2" under in photos. The G, long gone but still the celeb height.

burby says on 30/Oct/09
Correct Dural. Damon is a cover-up, sort of like Colin Farrell. Damon is a big time boot/custom dress shoe/custom sneaker guy, Colin is like Kurt Russell and Billy Bob, a custom cowboy boot with lifts kinda guy. No media outlet really is going to cover it, they would rather cover Cruise or Sly on the shoe lift front. There is no way Damon, Farrell, and Sly are 5'10".

Brad says on 30/Oct/09
If Damon was 5' 10" he'd own Cheadle with ease. If Damon were 5' 6.75" at 11 P.M. he'd own Glenn no shoes on each.

Aleks says on 30/Oct/09
The height difference between DiCaprio and Damon is huge in The Departed.

RisingForce says on 30/Oct/09
I saw 1.5" between Damon and Cheadle. Cheadle is 5'8" in my opinion, perhaps a hair over. That'd make Damon 5'9.5" maybe a weak 5'10".

Dural says on 30/Oct/09
If Damon is 5'10", then Cheadle must be about 5'9", which he isn't. Even if he had normal shoes on instead of boots with Glenn, he wouldn't look 5'10".

Brad says on 30/Oct/09
Damon wears lifts because he is 5' 8". Check out his Bourne booties or the shot with Glenn where he had on whoppers. If he were 5' 10" he'd be even with Clooney/Pitt/Redford. He never is. He's always the shorter guy with 5' 10"ers. Sly has the big wedges inside. I pulled some low cut Lugz boots off a rack yesterday, they had 2" easy with room for a 1/2" inside. I don't want to think what Sly gets for 2K with similar boots with a giant wedge and not low cut.3.5" easy.

Shaun says on 30/Oct/09
5'7" for Stallone is BS. Watch him training on Youtube. He is wearing sneakers which I doubt give him much of a lift, not the 3-4 inches people talk about here anyway and he clearly looks inches taller than his trainer Gunnar Petersen, Now I don't know how tall Petersen is but I don't think he is a short man. Stallone looked a decent height in comparison, he really looks a legit 5'9" in comparison, he does look 5'10" at times and reaches 5'11 in his regular lifts. The barefoot pictures with NO shoes prove he is around 5'9" for real. Remember Stallone is obsessed with self improvement and improving his body as much as possible as he "believes it is the step to make to improving yourself, making yourself better than you were the day before". Now if he cares so much about improving himself, this is why I think he wears lifts to look as tall as he possibly can as he believes it is an "improvement". Something tells me though with Sly even if he was 6'2" legit he'd still wear lifts as 6'4" is better. But I honestly think Stallone is close to a legit 5'9". Ego boosting though dictates this is too short for him though, hence the height complex. Most average height men at 5'9" don't resort to measures to boost their height. I just think with Stallone the taller the better in his view and he is not content with his natural height as he can't do much to change it so resorts to lifts to feel better about himself.

drak avenger says on 30/Oct/09
cmn just look at the guy in shower scene with sharon stone in specialist(or was it sliver) was exactly the same height as her and she is said that she is 5-7 so this guy has to be only 5-7

bam says on 29/Oct/09
brad, what makes you think damon wears lifts? He looks like a legit 5'10 guy who can look pushing 5'11 with his good posture.

Zach says on 29/Oct/09
derek d says on 29/Oct/09
Honestly I feel when his legs look shorter then normal at events, its most likely cause his lifts are much "smaller" than usual. I don't think he is ever truly lift less unless he's barefoot. Give it 0.5 inches to 1.5 inches, he always has some sort of advantage. And the whole 3 - 4 gain in height argument, I think Sly's shoes might be up there with Downey's. The difference between them two is Downey actually wants people to notice his shoes, he likes the attention and is open about his height.

100% agree. Sly probably hasnt got as much elevation in Italy as he gets from his munsters, from elevators on golf courses to heels on football (soccer) pitches, from climbing pipes with heels, to street fights in Rocky 5 Sly almost always has some level of elevation. Good point about Downey as well, what colour were his absurd elevators, bright pink I recall? The guys nuts.

Nobody is as paranoid or has worn elevators for as long as Sly. Nobody. Thats why he clearly has the best around.

Brad says on 29/Oct/09
Sly's wife meets him on the beach in barefeet and they are almost the same height. Seriously, are there people here who think Sly is 5' 10" or above? The G said 5' 10.75", he was the height expert til people found out he wore big boots and measured 5' 7" at wake-up.

Anonymous says on 29/Oct/09
he probably is parker, tom cruise is a lift wearer just like sly,brad pitt, and other height conscious basterds in hollywood.

RisingForce says on 29/Oct/09
If Cruise is getting 2"-2.25" over barefoot then he's doing a truly great job there, Parker.

I don't see why Downey would want people to know he's a short man who wears massive shoes, Derek. That would make zero sense. And what about Brando and Burt Reynolds?

Parker says on 29/Oct/09
One poster told me Cruise was wearing hidden 3 inch lifts here

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derek d says on 29/Oct/09
RisingForce says on 27/Oct/09 I'd guess that when Sly is playing golf or wearing normal looking dress shoes and his legs look shorter than normal, then he's likely liftless. I'd also guess that when Sly is wearing big boots or chunky, unusual looking shoes and his legs look to be in proportion to his torso that he's wearing lifts.

Honestly I feel when his legs look shorter then normal at events, its most likely cause his lifts are much "smaller" than usual. I don't think he is ever truly lift less unless he's barefoot. Give it 0.5 inches to 1.5 inches, he always has some sort of advantage. And the whole 3 - 4 gain in height argument, I think Sly's shoes might be up there with Downey's. The difference between them two is Downey actually wants people to notice his shoes, he likes the attention and is open about his height.

Brad says on 29/Oct/09
Those Bourne booties, especially the great shot with him and the director, look like black bricks attached to his feet. Yeah, and I saw da top of Penn's head...meanwhile Penn makes Emile look like a child with G barely taller than Emile. Imagine standing on your toes with Sly in sandals and getting owned that bad....the G and listed at 5' 8" in that shot in '06. He loved it, and the Volvo, Sal's burger runs, I'm busy that set of days (said 6 months before) vwwwwwarry buzzee (Elmer Fudd voice). Downey Jr. raided Madonna's footwear room for those suckers...but can he dance in them?

ACG says on 29/Oct/09
Brad says on 29/Oct/09
5' 10" is ridiculous.


My point is that you probably would've also said Tom Cruise at 5'8 is "ridiculous" before you encountered him.

I'm not going to argue with you any further, but I truly hope that for this board's sake, you meet Sly in his bare feet someday. Ditto Damon.

burby says on 29/Oct/09
Glenn said Matt Damon had on a "workmans boot" AKA a Bourne bootie. Colin had on a moccasin, Woody had a "sandal", just like Sly had a "sandal" AKA the NYC kind. Maybe Emile was standing on a fire hydrant when the pic was snapped.

RisingForce says on 29/Oct/09
Yeah, I personally don't understand it, Parker. When you start talking about a 4inch gain or close to it, these are the shoes that come to mind. Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here

Now, Downey may be a bad example because his shoes are always embarrassingly obvious, but Burt Reynolds used the same shokemaker as Sly and yet his shoes were always far more noticeable. And then you have Marlon Brando who was filthy rich and a legend, he could have anyone make him the best shoes. Look how unnatural his height looks and how massive his shoes are in the front and back.

Compare that to Sly's typical elevators from recent years. Click Here Click Here

Brad says on 29/Oct/09
5' 10" is ridiculous. Cruise and Stallone have similar posture, they add height. I'd probably be surprised how tall Stallone was till I saw the customs and military stance. At 5' 8.5" Sly wears customs, real expensive ones. The garbage Damon had on with G musta been huge, I think G said they were some sort of boot.

Parker says on 29/Oct/09
Rising - couldn't agree more with you on footwear. To a lesser extent same on the Cruise page, to suggest Stallone and Cruise walk around in shoes giving them a 3 inch lift with a flat heel and sole is ludicrous.

ACG says on 29/Oct/09
Brad, I agree with you that Tom is at least 5'8, but don't you think you're being a little stubborn with the likes of Stallone and co.??

You see, you yourself have admitted in the past that when you met Cruise, you were expecting 5'7 max, but were surprised to see he was a strong 5'8 min.

Since you've never met Stallone, could you possibly open up to the prospect that Sly could be around 5'10" or so? Same goes with the other celebs you've never met such as Matt Damon, Mel Gibson, etc...

It seems when you actually see a celeb in the flesh(case in point: Cruise), your height listing is spot-on.

I believe your opinion on Stallone's height would change drastically if you were to encounter him irl.

Brad says on 28/Oct/09
Those fake fronts clowny customs are beautiful for the big slope 3" wedges.

RisingForce says on 27/Oct/09
Honestly, I don't get the whole fake front claim. Those dress shoes simply look like normal dress shoes to me. I think there's a good chance he was liftless and if I had to guess, I'd guess he was. Before anyone says "you can't see inside his shoes" that's 100% right, I'm merely guessing. Just like the people here who act like they know what Sly has in those dress shoes. In my opinion, all of this "fake front" stuff and examining his golf shoes looking for anything you could interpret as lifts is a bit of a witch hunt. And before anyone gets bent out of shape, that's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it. I'd guess that when Sly is playing golf or wearing normal looking dress shoes and his legs look shorter than normal, then he's likely liftless. I'd also guess that when Sly is wearing big boots or chunky, unusual looking shoes and his legs look to be in proportion to his torso that he's wearing lifts.

And I have to laugh at the desperate attempts to try to make Matt Damon seem like some big lift wearer like Stallone. I get why people think Stallone is always in lifts no matter what, and that's because 95% of the time, he is. But Damon? His shoes don't look particularly big most of the time, his height doesn't fluctuate much and I haven't read any reports of him wearing lifts.

Parker says on 27/Oct/09
I think we can put to bed the Sly at 5'7 claims after the beach pics with his wife. He looks around the same height as her. I'd go with the 5'9 Rob has him listed at, he's not that far off. Though how he gets to look over 6' at time I don't know, as I agree with Rising and doubt he's getting over 3 inches from his footwear. Stuffing 3* 1 inch lifts into a tennis shoe is not going to give you 3 inches in height, as Rob eloquently points out in his lifts and heel height articles.

These give 3 inches
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bam says on 27/Oct/09
i think flavin is 5'9.5. So stallone would be 5'9 flat. Thats the absolute
max he could really be at least taking the rome picture into account.

derek d says on 27/Oct/09
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I'm just curious, are those even normal shoes Sly's trying on in this Rome picture?

H.M. Murdock says on 27/Oct/09
I'm gonna agree with the 67 inches remark. Sly wore elevator shoes because obviously he was sensitive about his height.

RisingForce says on 26/Oct/09
I don't why everyone ignores when I say that he could just as well be 5'9" flat. I'm not say he's defintley 5'10" or even that tall, I'm saying somwhere between 5'9" and 5'10".

And it's not the brand of lifts, it's the angle my foot was at. Same as a woman's heel. Picture this, Sly fitting a 4 inch platform woman's high heel in his boot. That's what saying he could gain 4 inches from is like. IF you want to believe he can get that much then fine, you're entitled to your beliefs like I am. I'm not going to try to talk you out of that. But I also think 3 inches is about as much as Sly gets.

Never once did I say there's absolutely no way he gets more than 3"/3.25", I may have said that with his dress shoes and I stand by that statement that he wouldn't even get 3" with those shoes, but I never once said there was absolutely no way he gets over 3 out of his normal elevators, I just said I doubt it.

My beliefs being well known is different than making it sound like I'm saying I'm 100% right and there's no way I'm wrong. I don't know enough about his big elevators to say that. I do however think it's common sense(atleast IMO) that there's no way he gets that out of normal dress shoes.

I'm not saying my opinion is better than yours either. I'm just stating what I believe. When I see shoes that I believe may get 4"(I can recall 3 actors) those look even bigger than Sly's. I'm referring to Burt Reynolds in Gator, Marlon Brando in The Freshman and Robert Downey Jr. on the Iron Man 2 set as well as a couple of premieres. IMO those seem to exceed what Sly wears.

And regarding the Rome picture, what I meant was that this seems to be the one of those photos with conditions that are good for judging height. Click Here Perhaps I should have made that more clear though.

burby says on 26/Oct/09
Hey guys, remember Slys custom dress shoes at that awards show, the ones with the fake fronts?
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Here's Matt Damon, look at his shoes, I swear I've seen similar, I just can't put my finger on it.......
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I guess the wiz shoemakers were working double overtime. How do you walk in those things? I guess you just lift your leg up and hope for the best.

Don says on 25/Oct/09
Rising,

Misquote? Maybe I didn’t quote you verbatim but there is no way that i took your statement out of context. it's a well established fact here that you do NOT believe that non platforms can get you more than 3 inches so i don't think the readers here would have interpreted my statement any differently.

secondly, my point with my previous post is that it is easily possible to gain 3 plus inches from stuffing insoles on high topped tennis shoes alone. I have seen the show that produced the aforementioned pics and he was walking JUST FINE with them while looking natural. and as you know, sly's shoes come in various shape and sizes for ease of putting insoles in and you would be naive to have a staunch belief that you can't gain more than 3 inches by experimenting with one brand of lifts.

would i be making of an assumption when i say that sly can get 4 inches from non platforms? sure, but I don’t see how my thought process is any different that from your assumption that you can't get more than 3 inches. Afterall, we are in level playing field here, thinking hypothetically.

Besides how else would a guy measure up to 6'1 ish with "non platforms" when he barely looks like he's 5'8 with his wife in Rome and AT MOST 5’9 in plenty of pictures? only possible answer for YOU is that sly has to be 5'10 + 3 inch lifts although majority of the posters outside you here somehow don’t seem to believe that. Strange isn’t it? Are we all sly haters? Personally I could care less if the man is 5’5 or 6 feet. I just write my posts as based on what I objectively see.

Finally, i don't know where you get the idea of saying that there is only one picture of him shoe shopping in rome because there is a different angle of that picture showing the same result and another picture showing sly at most as tall as flavin

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those pictures are FAR from fluke and provide far better evidence than your hypothetical '3 inch lifts so he must be 5'10' stuff that you post on here.

Enrique says on 25/Oct/09
alive in the Mexico north and I measure 1.85cm I am but high of my school they are but of 2500 students

burby says on 25/Oct/09
Correct derek d, Sly can custom out a golf shoe, he has the 2 Grand, he can get a mini-boost and still have full mobility. The only way Jack can be 5'9" is if we get Dr. Emmett Brown to fire up that DeLorean. Who have you met, Marty McFly?

Vegas says on 24/Oct/09
stallone and arnie Click Here

1992, some people here have a peak arnie 6'2 and sly 5'8 lol Click Here

Rob G says on 24/Oct/09
Don is right.

Zach says on 23/Oct/09
Don good post. I've long said that Stallone's footwear give a lot more than the regular off the shelf elevators that can be found online. He's clearly been having tailor made elevators for several decades now.

Mickey posted a good picture from Japan a while back if I recall correctly where a low camera shot showed how Stallone's boots incorporated a 'stealth' platform as Brad would call them. If you look carefully at his regular munsters Click Here there's at least an inch thick platform going all the way across.

Regardless, a platform doesnt necessarily have to be visible to prove that it is there and given that Sly has been getting elevator footwear tailor made for several decades now its no surprise his footwear continually add more height whilst getting less and less conspicuous.

Brad says on 23/Oct/09
Sly has custom golf shoes & Jack hasn't been 5' 9" since being photographed with McGovern in '72. 3"+ is easy. 1.5" heel, 1.5"+ wedge. Sly does it all the time. He's never been over 5' 9" in his life.

derek d says on 23/Oct/09
burby says on 22/Oct/09
Sly in his custom golf shoe whoppers. Notice his ankle, it's elevated. Extra "padding" 2" boost.
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Burby, I've never noticed his ankle popping out like that before. Good find. All the people who dismissed the possibility of Sly wearing lifts on the golf field were wrong. He apparently does wear custom made golf shoes or at least inserts lifts into them even though they don't seem to be more than 2 ish inches.

RisingForce says on 23/Oct/09
And Don, when did I say there's absolutely no way he can gain more than 3" without platforms. Nice job misquoting me, I said I'm a strong believer that he can't get more than 3"/3.25" without platforms. I said there's no way he'd get that much out of dress shoes though. And I'm sure I'm not alone in those beliefs.

RisingForce says on 23/Oct/09
Don, it's not just speculation. I tried myself. I have a pair of thick boots that I always wore to work, especially when I'd be stepping around nails, that's how thick they were. I put lifts inside them and I was almost falling out of them and boots were so full that they looked like boats. I was getting about 3". And these boots are pretty thick in the front and back. I'll post a demonstration within the next few days when I get a chance.

Read Rob's heel height section and elevator shoe section. Every heel that gives over 3" has a noticeable platform on it. Why do you think that is? Because the angle 3 inches puts your foot at is so steep that you need a platform to for anything more.

And to address your statement a while back that it was kind of desperate to use Glenn's pictures as evidence, if you go back and read that, I'm the one who brought it up. Burby, brought it up trying to use it as evidence for Sly being 5-8ish and the pictures do not reflect that as even Rob said Sly was looking more like 5'9.5" there compared to how Jenny stood next to Glenn. I haven't brought up the Glenn pictures on my own since the car story was revealed because of all the questions, but when someone tries to use it as evidence he's 5'8" when that's not what the picture reflects(regardless of how tall he really is) then I'll argue back.

I don't ignore the Rome picture, I acknowledge he looks 5'8.5", but I also know it's one picture and one picture is not an exact measurement. Generally to me he looks more 5'9"-5'10" even when factoring in what I think his footwear adds so I believe he is or was more in that range. There's nothing wrong with that and I'm entitled to my beliefs.

Rob G says on 23/Oct/09
Not over 5'9"ish for sure, back then and today.

Don says on 23/Oct/09
Rising,

There you go again saying "there is absolutely no way sly can get over 3 inches without his platform/munsters so he shouldn't be less than 5'9-10" claims. With you, everything is based on hypotheticals. I am not even going to go into the rome pictures, which you deliberately seem to ignore even though they easily provide the best evidence thus far. you seem to have fondness of adding and subtracting inches at your will based on your "beliefs" which well, can be easily proven wrong really.

If you want to play the "hypothetical" card well, I have a pretty good answer to that as well. I've posted this before, and I will post it again. Click on the url below and click on the top left picture. You wil see a picture in which an asian celebrity reveals three one inch insoles inside of what looks to be your normal tennis shoes. he's getting AT LEAST 3 inches from those elevated insoles and add the 0.5 inches that he gets from the tennis shoes' soles already, and you have at least 3.5 inches of elevation, while looking much more natural than how sly usually looks like.

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therefore, you just can't tell me that sly can't gain more than 3 inches without his platforms because the picture proves that you EASILY can. sly can have his lumpy frankensteiners that already gives you more than an inch on the base, stuff three of those puppies in there, and voila, you have ur 4 inch elevation. and god only knows how far sly is taking his insoles because those munsters that he sports, platform or not, can look downright ugly and stiff.

you can strongly believe all you want, i am just showing you that your judgment based on these beliefs can be easily proven wrong.

burby says on 23/Oct/09
Again, Jack is not 5'9" in those golf shots, he hasn't been 5'9" in decades, not without help.

RisingForce says on 23/Oct/09
Still, I did not see any platforms on his shoes on that German show. I am strong believer that without platforms you can only gain 3", maybe 3.25" over barefoot height. That's among the tallest I've seen him look where you could see his feet, as well as the Letterman appearance IMO.

THE REAL ANONYMOUS says on 23/Oct/09
Sly could barley walk in those Monster Munsters that he was wearing on the German show Wetten Dass. I have never seen him wear anything packing so much lift. Please check that video out again, there is a reason why they seated him behind the coffee table, and that was to hide his foot wear.

Brad says on 23/Oct/09
Sly's Insane Sly Posse shoes take the cake. Damon's Bourne booties are like bricks attached to his feet. These way below 6' actors try anything to be 6'. Cruise was 5' 8", 1 foot in front of me. The G got that one. Keep in mind G is 5' 6.5" (5' 6" or less pre '94) and wears Portmans with a possible tip-toe (like with Sly). Great shots Burby. The G trying to explain how Sly is 5' 10.75" in those shots was a comedy show. In full "effect" he is a 5' 9" with a 5' 8" Jack. Look at him with Hopper. 5' 10" is a farce in that shot.

RisingForce says on 23/Oct/09
I'm not talking about jeans and a t-shirt, I'm talking about this look. Click Here Or I'd think he'd atleast wear dress boots like Brad Pitt's which are not embarrassingly big.

I'm still not sure how those golf pictures suggest he's under 5'9", Burby. Jack Nicholson is 5'8.5"-5'9" himself and Sly is taller. More noticeably in the second picture you posted. And Sly has 1.5" on Hopper despite loose posture and the fact that it looks like Hopper has the tilt or ground advantage.

THE REAL ANONYMOUS says on 22/Oct/09
Rising, it would be very uncool for Sly to war his Munsters in Italy. He can get a way with wearing geans,tshirt and Monster Munsters at premiers in the U.S.A, but the very fashion conscious Italians would laugh him out of town in that gear.
I agree with Mickey, until I see where his ankles are in "normal shoes"I will not be convinced that he is not wearing lifts.

burby says on 22/Oct/09
Sly in his custom golf shoe whoppers. Notice his ankle, it's elevated. Extra "padding" 2" boost.
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Barely has 5'8" Jack Nicholson in the side by side.
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Next to 5'7" Dennis Hopper
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Bouncer says on 22/Oct/09
RisingForce says on 22/Oct/09
Bouncer, that other guy in the video is 6'4"?! Sly reaching those heights in shoes is exactly why I find it hard to believe that he's under 5'9".

Yes, Rising Force. Thomas Gottschalk, the german Moderator of the Show "Wetten Dass" is always reported as being 6'4.
He also looked only a few inches shorter when the Klitschko Brothers (6'8 and 6'6 i believe) were on Wetten Dass (btw, you can find a video on youtube too).
I guess you watched the video when Sly was on Wetten Dass and stood beside Gottschalk on the beginning. He looked about 6'1 there, only a few inches shorter than reported 6'4 Thomas Gottschalk!
Dude, that must be some lifts i can hardly believe it!! O-O

burby says on 22/Oct/09
I'm making perfect sense, a below average height action star can't wear boots/dress boots/sneakers all of the time. They have to mix it up, just like everyone else. Slys massive custom shoe arsenal is bigger than that. That's just the way Sly thinks. Throw your hands in the air Rising. You are surrounded. Barely 5'8" in Rome, he got caught, BIGTIME.

Parker says on 22/Oct/09
Metric says on 21/Oct/09
RisingForce - with all due respect. You supported Gs DEMENTED 5-10.75 for Sly for years. You should NOT be calling anyone ridiculous!
I trust whatever Brad says/estimates. After all he was the one who saw through G when no one else had a clue. Show him some respect will ya!??

Brad says on 20/Oct/09. Cruise is 5' 8"

Metric says on 27/Sep/09
If young Glenn was 5-5.5 then Cruise is no more than 5-6.5.

RisingForce says on 22/Oct/09
burby, that made no sense. I asked if he could get 3 inches out of such normal looking shoes then why bother to wear huge boots and elevators so often? The Rocky Balboa premiere was a formal gathering as well and he wore some massive elevator shoes. You'd think Sly would atleast wear dress boots if he was looking to gain a lot of height in Italy instead of dress shoes.

burby says on 22/Oct/09
He's getting owned by the cameras with his mass custom stealth shoes when he walks. Anyone who thinks there are toes in the front of that shoe is not right in the head, and needs to see a doctor dressed up as an astronaut.

burby says on 22/Oct/09
RisingForce says on 22/Oct/09
Metric, anyway you put it, a 3 inch gain out of what look like normal dress shoes is ridiculous. If Sly could get that type of height gain out of those shoes then why would he wear huge elevators/boots 24/7?

It's a formal gathering Rising, he's not going to rock Matt Damon Bourne bootie customs that Matt burned little G with. Sly can get the 3", he wasn't born yesterday, he's a millionaire X times over.

Brad says on 22/Oct/09
"Demented" is correct. Yes Zach, there is nothing at his toes on the red carpet, he's got the massive customs on. Insane Sly Posse shoes I'll call them. You could put a nail in the front and his tootsies are not there.

RisingForce says on 22/Oct/09
Bouncer, that other guy in the video is 6'4"?! Sly reaching those heights in shoes is exactly why I find it hard to believe that he's under 5'9".

RisingForce says on 22/Oct/09
Zach, look at how unusually long his legs look with the brown shoes, it looks like he's getting a noticeably bigger boost there than in Italy if you look at leg length.

That's a fair statement Mickey, I'm not saying anyone should just assume they're normal shoes. I said that 1 inch lift with the 1/1.25" heels is possible, but anything more than that really seems unlikely. At the least, those are the most normal looking shoes I've see Sly wearing in years aside from the Rome picture.

Metric, anyway you put it, a 3 inch gain out of what look like normal dress shoes is ridiculous. If Sly could get that type of height gain out of those shoes then why would he wear huge elevators/boots 24/7?

Mickey says on 21/Oct/09
Burby does bring up a good point about the shoe looking smooshed, it looks really thin i doubt you could fit toes in there. Reminds me of the shoes Pitt was wearing with the fake fronts. Until i see above-ankle shots of the shoes i will not be convinced they are normal shoes. Not because im anti-Sly(im not), but because Sly is seen wearing huge lifts most of the time, so that becomes the standard/default. My opinion though.

Metric says on 21/Oct/09
RisingForce - with all due respect. You supported Gs DEMENTED 5-10.75 for Sly for years. You should NOT be calling anyone ridiculous!
I trust whatever Brad says/estimates. After all he was the one who saw through G when no one else had a clue. Show him some respect will ya!??

Zach says on 21/Oct/09
Burby makes a good point actually. Either Sly has feet akin to something from Lord of the Rings or his shoes are suspiciously extended Click Here The angle his instep is making isn't exactly normal either.

It wouldn't be the first time he's used a well proportioned but overall larger shoe as one of his many tricks to appear taller than average Click Here

lubee says on 21/Oct/09
i agree w/ danimal. Sly is 5'8 and there was no hiding that figure in Rome. He got caught w/ his hand in the cookie jar. The Sly man was finished in Rome, like G's measurements without the portmans.

Bouncer says on 21/Oct/09
Sylvester Stallone besides 6'4 Thomas Gottschalk on "Wetten Dass":

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He must wore HUGE lifts there because he looks 6'1!

Brad says on 21/Oct/09
He has the 1.5" inside, he's Sly, knowing he'd be with a very tall woman onstage. 5' 10" range is something Glenn would say in '09. A sloped 1.5" wedge is easy to build with a 1.5" heel, especially for two thousand euros.

burby says on 21/Oct/09
Uhh, Rising, those are mass customs, bub. The front is smooshed cause there are no toes in there to begin with. His foot is at an "angle" shall we say? Sly can get 3", he's no fool, best stealth whoppers available. Sly and Damon have never been 5'9.5" in thir lives. That astronaut guy is a mean SOB.

RisingForce says on 21/Oct/09
If he could get 3" total out of normal looking dress shoes then why would he bother wearing those 3" frankenstein elevators? Try wearing some lifts for yourself, you need a boot to conceal enough to get a 3" gain. I know, I've tried.

Shaun says on 21/Oct/09
Maria Grazia Cucinotta was that seriously fit bird from World is Not Enough right in the red leather jacket? Sizzling hot. She claims 179cm I believe.

Brad says on 21/Oct/09
"Maybe". Try 1.5" of beautiful Italian custom wedge and 1.5" of heel. I think Rome has been unkind to the Slyster for height, he ought to do L.A. munster action or stand by a 5' 8" G in sandals. I have to meet my astronaut.

RisingForce says on 21/Oct/09
Sly in 3 inch heels? Are you kidding me, Brad? Those are max 1.25" heeled dress shoes. We have no way of knowing if he has anything inside, but 3 inch heels would look like woman's heels. That was among your most ridiculous comments.

Yes I did look at him on the beach and in the photos I posted he looked in the 5'9"-5'10" range. I can agree on 5'9", but he can look taller even when considering the lifts.

Brad says on 21/Oct/09
She's just destroying him and he's in 3" heels. Look at him on the beach. Give it up over 5' 9".

RisingForce says on 21/Oct/09
Uhh, Burby, he's walking, of course the front of his shoes are going to be smooshed. Those look like dress shoes with maybe a 1.25" heel at the most to me. Not particularly thick. Maybe he has an inch of lifts in there, that's possible, but that'd still put him at a solid 5'9" barefoot if that was the case.

burby says on 21/Oct/09
Sly doesn't wear normal shoes.(except in the Rome shot) Look at his left foot. The front is smooshed, no foot or toes in there, they are customs of the wedged massive variety.
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RisingForce says on 21/Oct/09
5-9.75? So that puts her at what? 6-1 in heels? I don't see more than a 2 inch difference between them in the pictures and that's factoring in his slight camera advantage.

Nolifts81 says on 21/Oct/09
RisingForce- The woman besides Sly at the Venice film festival is Maria Grazia Cucinotta. She is a very famous actress and model. She said a lot of times that she is 177 cm tall. So 5'9.75 . She is not 5'10.5. Yes is True that Sly that evening(I was at the venice film festival so I saw Sly, that evening)had on normal dress shoes. Sly was 5'10" with shoes on. He can't be more than 5'9".

derek d says on 21/Oct/09
THE REAL ANONYMOUS says on 20/Oct/09
derek d, Okay then it must be SLY himself.
Seriously though, derek you have posted some real good pics in here. Thanks for taking the time to do that.

No problem THE REAL ANONYMOUS, glad you appreciate them.


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Here's a third beach picture of Sly and Flavin from that same day, one I hadn't seen till just now.

As for more Flavin/Sly comparisons, here's a few more new pictures. Slys in what looks to be normal shoes (lets hope) while Flavin is barefoot.

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RisingForce says on 20/Oct/09
No Zach, I wanted to find something that wasn't from a random internet site, those sites seem to get their listings either from this site or I M D B I've noticed. For example when Brad Pitt got listed at 5-10.75 on I M D B or 5-11.5 on that site I noticed most of the other sites listed him at that shortly after.

I actually typed in "Jennifer Flavin 5 foot 9" in Googles News Archives search and the 5-9.5 listing was the first thing that came up. If you don't believe me, try it for yourself. I never tried searching for 5-9.5, I tried 5-10 and 5-8 as well, but got no results for that.

And Danimal, I'm not trying to make Sly taller. What I've noticed is that nothing gets posted here unless it backs up Sly at less than 5'9". Everything else is now ignored based on one photo in Rome which is foolish IMO. To base an entire estimate off of one picture and rule out things based on one.

In fact I noticed you doing that on the Clint Eastwood page, Danimal. Because of a picture where Clint looked less than 6 ft, you automatically assumed he was. But then there were perfects from the same night that showed Clint looking 6'1". One off pictures can be good, but to act like a one time picture is an exact measurement is pretty nonsensical.

I actually was leaning towards 5'8.5"-5'9" max until I read comments on the Brad Pitt page by ACG and Leung. They went something along the lines of "just because someone looks a height in a picture doesn't mean they are that height". And that made sense to me. It makes more sense to me o go by what someone usually looks like.

The thing that sealed it for me that Sly wasn't less than 5'9" is that Mark Wahlberg seemed to be agreed on at 5'8" and I highly doubt Wahlberg and Stallone are about the same height.

THE REAL ANONYMOUS says on 20/Oct/09
derek d, Okay then it must be SLY himself.
Seriously though, derek you have posted some real good pics in here. Thanks for taking the time to do that.

Brad says on 20/Oct/09
Frank Stallone jokes about Sly's height, he's not a Sly backer by any means. I bet G still thinks Sly is 5' 10.75". I bet Sly says he's over 5' 10". I wish I saw a shot of Sly by Emile Hirsch. I need a Hirschy Bar and a visit to my postman. Hey Burby, I met Roger Daltrey an hour ago, G is one short dude brother!

burby says on 20/Oct/09
Check it out guys! It's Sly ard Carl!!!!
Click Here

derek d says on 20/Oct/09
THE REAL ANONYMOUS says on 20/Oct/09
Danimal, its quite simple. Rising is really Frank Stallone.

That makes no sense, if anything Frank would want everyone to know that Sly is shorter. I've heard he's even mentioned he is taller in interviews.

burby says on 20/Oct/09
Yes Danimal, he's grasping at Portman boot laces. I think I know who to ask about Sly Slys height.....

Brad says on 20/Oct/09
Sly did everything that MGM could give him to make himself taller. The ring training footage is hilarious, he actually leaps off the canvas with each punch....you have to if you are 5" shorter. Wedged up boots, up shots, Carl got himself a 5' 11"er on film.

Zach says on 20/Oct/09
Clutching at straws, apt description Danimal. Google Jennifer Flavin height and almost every single result says she's 5'9, these are all the ones from the first page without exception:

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What did you search for exactly Rising? 'Jennifer Flavin 5'9.5' in hope that a random quote makes Sly look taller?

Hell even if Jennifer is 5'9.5 which she isnt, she's a minimum half inch taller than Sly in Rome AND sly has a minimum half inch shoe advantage, so we're back down to 5'8.5 regardless. 5'8 if she's 5'9 which is the most likely scenario.

Brad says on 20/Oct/09
If G is scouting out the Slyster he's been up for hours a full borough away from wake-up. He waits for another duece outside. Glenn is 5' 6.5" with the Slyster. Young G could very well be even under 5' 6" he's getting destroyed so bad by Sly in wizard sandals. He admits 5' 7" in that picture, start subtracting hoss. Good question Danimal. After Rome he's burnt toast.

THE REAL ANONYMOUS says on 20/Oct/09
Danimal, its quite simple. Rising is really Frank Stallone.

Don says on 20/Oct/09
rising,

The clip where apollo and rocky are walking around on beach preparing for the FIRST race provides HARDLY ANY tangible evidence for height comparison purposes

1. we cannot even see their feet
2. The slopes in the sand area make the ground level uneven.

not to mention sly probably used all the tricks in the book to make himself measure up respectably to carl weathers in that movie. all the shots in that movie should not be given too much weight as far as comparing heights is concerend as sly has too much room to manipulate in this aspect. bringing up glenn pix is futile as glenn was eventually proven to be far from a credible source to put it mildly and we cannot even see footwear in his sly pictures to begin with. rising, no offense but you are truly grasping for straws if you are trying to get the glenn/sly pictures back into the conversation.

to this day, the rome pictures provide the most tangible, clear cut evidence of sly's true height and until someone comes up with irrefutable evidence that proves otherwise, i'd say arguing for anything over 5'9 is truly illogical at this pt

Danimal says on 19/Oct/09
Rising, why are you clutching at straws? Why is it so important to you for Sly to be taller?? WHY?? Why???

burby says on 19/Oct/09
With my very limited connections, I'm going to get someone to ask for me how tall Sly is. Who am I going to ask? What movie did he star with Sly in? Will I get a "I don't know" or "I don't remember"? But it's worth a shot, and I'm not kidding. Glenn is under 5'7" next to Sly Sly there.....

RisingForce says on 19/Oct/09
Don, it's a video of them walking. Not a still picture. That's different, you can see their entire strides. A picture captures them in one part of their stride.

Salem says on 19/Oct/09
I'm gonna agree with Sly being 5'7". Janice Dickenson and a shoemaker wouldn't lie. -- Salem Saberhagen AKA Salem

RisingForce says on 19/Oct/09
As Rob said, Sly looked more like 5'9.5" in the more recent picture with Glenn. Possibly more if you remember what Glenn said and that was that the picture was taken around 5 PM and he had "just woke up" which probably meant an hour or so up. That puts him atleast at his highest measurement taken by Rob(5'7 1/8") and there's a minimum 2.5" difference between them. Jenny was a bit shorter than Sly compared to Glenn.

derek d says on 19/Oct/09
Rising - I forgot about that scene, looks 5'10 there to me too but he is on the higher end up the slope.

Don says on 19/Oct/09
Rising,

You can't tell the height of his heels in that picture with the 5'10.5 actress, so it doesn't really make sense to "assume" that those are normal dress shoes. if anything, he could be wearing "normal" dress shoes with higher heels, or he could be sporting some added insoles under there. i do agree though with you that those are probably not his normal custom lifts. i'd say the actresses reaches around 6'1 with heels as she's not standing full striaght and has about 2.5, 3 inches on sly.

as for the jogging scene in rocky, judging heights based on that scene pretty much goes against all your principles in comparing heights as

1. they are in a beach with no even ground level
2. they are not only NOT in mid stride, but they are jogging!

if you are going to disregard the picture with sly and janice dickenson walking because they are in mid-stride, then you should apply the same reasoning for the jogging scene in rocky III as well.

bam says on 19/Oct/09
flavin at possibly 5'9.5 explains a lot. The number for her weight is too precise to not come out of flavin's mouth. Which means her height is likely her claim as well.

RisingForce says on 19/Oct/09
The jogging scene I was referring to was when they're wearing sweatshirts.

RisingForce says on 19/Oct/09
Derek, look at Weathers and Sly when they're jogging on the beach, not sprinting. Sly looks no moe than 3 inches shorter. Jumping in the water is hardly an accurate time to gauge height. I can't see a 3 inch difference between the 2, not in the famous slipper scene either or any of the training scenes. 4 inch difference max, but more like 3.

Vaj actually had a great idea. It'd be interesting if Rob contacted Sly's management to see what there reaction was to Sly getting measured for the site.

Brad says on 18/Oct/09
Sly can buy the best massive stealth customs money can by. At 5' 8.5" he can't be wearing normal shoes with his job as an A list action actor.

burby says on 18/Oct/09
derek d says on 16/Oct/09
burby says on 15/Oct/09
Hey look! it's Glenn and Sly: 5'6.5" G on the left, 5'6"(if that)on the right
Click Here

Sly basically has Glenn by 2 inches in that picture. He looks the same as Jenny did next to Glenn. So basically Glenn was standing next to a liftless Sly without even knowing it. And if Sly was in lifts then he's no more than 5'8 flat. Think about it.

True, also note that Sly isn't in "Stallone effect posture" (not that it would help much if any) in either shot. IF (and that's a big if) there is nothing funny going on in the left pic, Sly would be 5'8.5" to Glenns 5'6.5". There is nothing "normal" about Slys dress shoes he wore with the 5'10.5" actress. He can afford the best "help" there is. He is comically out of proportion in that pic by the car, toothpick legs. Glenn claimed to have seen the top of Mr. Penns head. In reality, it was the other way around. Think of Rob standing next to Glenn on that one. This is why one shouldn't be wearing boots when gauging height. Anyway, I still have Sly at a strong 5'8", especially after that Rome pic in regular shoes. I love the look on Slys face on the photo w/G on the right. The "why me?" face.......

Noonbory & the Super 7 says on 17/Oct/09
Stallone wears lifts to be 5'10" because come on, no one wears three inch gym shoes, no such thing. I won't doubt he's actually 5'8" maybe 5'8 1/2".

RisingForce says on 16/Oct/09
Don't forget about these pictures. Everyone seemed to think that these looked like normal dress shoes. Click Here Click Here

The actress to his left is listed at 5'10.5" meaning she'd easily be over 6'1.5" in heels. Even if she's not standing as straight, she doesn't look slumped over and there's not a big difference between them. He looks easily over 5'11" in those dress shoes and he's not tip-toeing as you can see in those 2 full body pictures. For Sly to be 5'8", those normal looking dress shoes would have to give over 3 inches which is absurd.

Obviously you can put some lifts in shoes that look like normal dress shoes, but you're not going to gain 3 inches or close to it out of shoes like that. If Sly could, then why would he wear more obvious boots like these all the time? Click Here

I know the actresses his height isn't exactly confirmed, but if we're going to be unbiased on both sides, then it's not less reliable than Flavin's height listing of 5'9" and I couldn't find anything better than an I M D B listing to confirm that. I don't think that Glenn estimating her at anywhere from 5'7"-5'9" is proof she couldn't be taller. He estimated Sean Penn at 5'6"-5'7" and Penn usually looks 5'8" sometimes taller(he's listed a 5'8.25" here) In fact here's a 1992 USA article that has her at 5'9.5".

``I don't want to get too skinny,'' says Sly Stallone's steady, Jennifer Flavin. ``I like having T and A!'' The 5-foot-9 1/2-inch, 123-pound Flavin flaunts

derek d says on 16/Oct/09
burby says on 15/Oct/09
Hey look! it's Glenn and Sly: 5'6.5" G on the left, 5'6"(if that)on the right
Click Here

Sly basically has Glenn by 2 inches in that picture. He looks the same as Jenny did next to Glenn. So basically Glenn was standing next to a liftless Sly without even knowing it. And if Sly was in lifts then he's no more than 5'8 flat. Think about it.


Parker says on 15/Oct/09
What I find so strange is in that beach running scene with Carl Weathers in Rocky 3, he looked a strong 5'10....camera trickery?

Easy, look at still images from that scene. Sly looks as if he is in the air flying next to Carl while they run. He's like more 2 - 3 inches higher off the ground. And he is on the higher end of the slope. If he didn't have those advantages he would be a solid 5 inches shorter. Check out when they hug each other in the water, you get to see the 4 - 5 inch difference.

RisingForce says on 15/Oct/09
That's what I thought in Rocky 3 as well, Parker. He looked like he was a solid 5'10" in all of the training scenes with Weathers. 5'8.5" is defintley possible today based on the Rome picture, but I think he was over 5'9" when Rocky 3 was made.

burby says on 15/Oct/09
Glenn is in full-on Emile mode on the right, thumbs up for ya customs Sly!!!!

Brad says on 15/Oct/09
Correct Burby...heavy on the "if that" and "I'm on my toes" & "Sly is in sandals" and 5' 8" listed under G. Like looking at Post Alphabets floating in a bowl of milk trying to figure out why somebody said it spells something. The beach scene with Weathers was camera tricks. If he is getting destroyed by a 6' Brigette on a beach, he'd be piled on by Weathers by about 5" on his beach. I'd read posts where Glenn would go: "see, see, see, day are on da beach and day are 5' 10.75" & 6' 1".." No Glenn, grab your bag in the rain and wait 3 hours for Fred Durst for Burger King money, it is camera hijinks ordered by the Slyster hoss. Look at G with Jenny then G with a 5' 9" in effect Sly plus I'd give Sly the 1/2" advantage with his whoppers. Fits a 5' 8.5" Sly or 1/2" more in his effect pose. Keep in mind Glenn is a 5' 6.5"er in photos and stone short in his teens 5' 6" or less.

Parker says on 15/Oct/09
Yes Zach. Thanks for posting the pic. Using a simple pencil and rule and measuring their body lengths in mm's, I'd estimate Sly to be 93-94% of Bridgit's height. If she is 6'1,then he is 5'8/5'9, if she is 6' then I see 5'7/5'8. Not very accurate, but from that pic alone I doubt he can be over 5'9.

What I find so strange is in that beach running scene with Carl Weathers in Rocky 3, he looked a strong 5'10....camera trickery?

burby says on 15/Oct/09
Hey look! it's Glenn and Sly: 5'6.5" G on the left, 5'6"(if that)on the right
Click Here

Brad says on 15/Oct/09
Glenn said he was 5' 10.75". He said he was some sort of height expert after seeing him 20+ times in all types of footwear. Imagine Brigitte getting off the slope and standing by him, according to G there would be about 1" difference....try lots more.

Will says on 15/Oct/09
Sylvester Stallone is 5'8". He is not that tall. I mean, come on the man is right now 63 years old. He is a senior citizen. He is not regarded as so-called "tall" for his elderly age. A lot of boys in their teens are 6 feet tall and over. Now that is considered extremely tall people. Stallone was only 5'8" at the age of 31. That is not tall for him at that time in the year 1977. You see, Stallone wore 4 inch elevator shoes and still did not appear to be 5'11".

the shredder says on 15/Oct/09
I think Sly was atleast 5'9 peak , doing Rocky he said he was 5'10.75 , which most likely was in boots , I agree he looks 5'8.5 in recent photos !

Danimal says on 14/Oct/09
vaj says on 14/Oct/09
Rob your site is becoming very popular you should contact Sly's people and see if Sly lets you measure him to put all these rumors to rest. If Sly is a legit 5'10er as he claims to be, he should not have any problem being measured.

If Sly surfs the internet I am pretty sure he knows about this site. Actually, I'm sure most celebs know about this site.

Brad says on 14/Oct/09
I bet his mother calls him short, he's barely taller than her by 4-5 inches barefootin' to sandals. Sly would never be measured. He'd sleep in his Rolls Royce to the measure like the G in a Volvo if he had to and add "effect".

THE REAL ANONYMOUS says on 14/Oct/09
Rising, Sly's family calls him short, because of the shoes he wears. Its the shoes mannnnn!!!

Zach says on 14/Oct/09
Parker this is the beach pic I posted a while back Click Here obviously you cant make an accurate comparison with it being a beach pic and postures etc but they are both clearly barefeet and for a sense of perspective it does show how small Sly really is compared to Bridgitte. He looks like a little 5'7 action man there next to her, she's toying with him.

Vaj - good to see you back, where have you been? Those Rome pictures were actually found by Dural a few months back I just reposted them you're right they are the best around. For once he got caught without elevator shoes. In a shoe shop.

TELLEM says on 14/Oct/09
sly is gaining 2 inches tip toeing and kissing 6'0 briggitte. briggitte is losing 2 inches tilting her head down, and w/ that stance. plus sly looks to be closer to the camera. 5'8+2 = 5'10. 6'0-2= 5'10.

Don says on 14/Oct/09
i think i remember reading something like sly's mom or sister laughing at his 5'10 claims. not sure where i read it, but it's out there.

vaj says on 14/Oct/09
His sister who is 5'9" said he was shorter than her.

RisingForce says on 14/Oct/09
Vaj, when did Sly's family call him short?

Brad says on 14/Oct/09
He was on his toes big in another photo with Brigette moments before or after that shot. His back was turned and she was bending over. It was all over with the Rome shot. He got caught.

vaj says on 14/Oct/09
Rob your site is becoming very popular you should contact Sly's people and see if Sly lets you measure him to put all these rumors to rest. If Sly is a legit 5'10er as he claims to be, he should not have any problem being measured.

vaj says on 14/Oct/09
Zach,
GOOD JOB ZACH! The Rome pic's are the best evidence showing Sly trying on normal shoes(no lift's)is shorter than his 5'9" wife in sandals.
Click Here
Besides all the rumors and his own family admitting Sly is short I believe the Rome pictures are the BEST evidence!

RisingForce says on 14/Oct/09
Again, I don't necessarily disagree that there's a 3 inch difference between them there, but I'd guess more like 2. Hard to tell there. I'm still not sure why everyone is convinced he's tip toeing. I can't really tell there. If anything a photo like the one of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Roland Dantes seemed more like tip toeing, but a lot of people seem unsure of that.

I'm not ruling out tip toeing, all I'm saying is I'm not convinced. If he is then once again I'd think he'd be getting about a half an inch to an inch and no more otherwise the angle would be more noticeable.

I think the big difference is Sly stretching his neck and tilting his head while Brigitte is slouching. As far as head size. I don't think it's an abnormal amount bigger. Just an average man's head which is bigger than a woman's head generally. It was established here with some side by side photos that Sly's head is bigger than Jennifer Flavin's and Brigitte's head doesn't seem any bigger than Jennifer's to me. If anything, Brigitte's head always seemed kind of small for her size if you ask me.

Mickey says on 14/Oct/09
I doubt his head would be an abnormal amount bigger than Brigette's. Even with the bigger head, Sly is tip toeing, to what degree we an uncertain of, but the shoulder difference is big even if Sly wasn't tip toeing. His head would have to be like 3 inches longer than Brigette's to make up the tip toeing and the actual shoulder difference. My opinion anyway.

RisingForce says on 14/Oct/09
Rob, do you think Sly could have lost height? If so, how much?

RisingForce says on 14/Oct/09
Yeah, the shoulder difference is big, but part of what makes up for that is Sly's bigger head.

Mickey says on 13/Oct/09
Yeh, it is probably the best "beach" picture, however rare those are.

With the Brigette picture, take a look at her shoulders compared to Sly's, even if Sly is only getting an inch with tiptoes, the difference in shoulders is big.

RisingForce says on 13/Oct/09
I agree that Brigitte is losing atleast an inch in posture. But I'm not convinced Sly is tip toeing there and certainly not 2 inches, that'd put his feet at the angle of a cowboy boot and I defintley don't see that.

I don't necessarily disagree that there could be 3 inches between them there, but I see more 2 inches there. I'm not going to argue against him being 5'9" either, I think that as good of a case can be made for that as any height.

As far as the beach photo, I agree that beach pictures are flawed, but considering how rare barefoot photos of Sly are, I wouldn't disregard it. It's the only one where they're standing and not walking. So I'd atleast say it's the best beach picture of Sly so far.

Mickey says on 13/Oct/09
Hmmm i dont think the beach picture with Jennifer is that good, here is why i think this:

It is on the beach, soft sand, sloped surfaces, some parts harder than others.
Jennifer has her knees bent, quite a bit too, otherwise it would not be so obvious.
Her her might not be stretched, but could be tilted upwards instead. Or a bit of both.
Can't see what Sly is doing with his feet or how much slope there is.

Compared to the Rome picture where none of these variables are present it makes for a weak case(in my opinion).

With the Brigette picture, Sly is tiptoeing, probably giving him 2 inches, whilst Brigette is not standing as straight, costing her an inch or more(say 3 inches all up). Brigette 6ft minus 3 inches = 5'9" Sly.

Compare Sly's shoulders to Brigette's, there is a big difference, and this is with Sly on his tip toes!

RisingForce says on 13/Oct/09
No Brad, Sly clearly comes out a bit taller there with Brigitte. Even if he is on his toes a bit(and I'm not convinced because it's hard to tell), that'd still put him at 5'9" minimum with Brigitte.

Brad says on 12/Oct/09
Wasn't that Brigette photo posted 2 years ago with Sly on his toes shorter than her and she's leaning over? Yes Parker, you sure were. You shoulda joined me in the ditch with a gun fighting the 5' 10" Sly crowd and Glenn is 5' 7.5"+. We won. We pitched the flag at the top. Yes Burby, that Rome shot is wild. He got caught in regs.

RisingForce says on 12/Oct/09
I agree, Parker. He looks short(under 5-9 probably) in that picture, but contrary to the Rome picture that one does have a lot of variables such as Brigitte bending a lot, the slope and them not being next to eachother.

The Rome picture is the one that made me doubt it more, but the man is 63 so that makes it more confusing.

Danimal says on 12/Oct/09
Zach says on 12/Oct/09
The Rome pictures are number one for gauging Sly's height bar none. The immediate reaction by the posters itself proved what an effective comparison that was.

* It was clearly on a flat indoor surface
* It wasnt a film/stage shot
* Both Sly and Flavin were standing facing and posing for the camera. No cuddling, tip toes or stretching malarky.
* We know Flavin is no more than 5'9 (even Glenn estimated her being 5'7-9)
* And crucially there's clearly no lifts/elevators/heels involved. Flavin is in completely flat sandals whilst Stallone is in regular footwear, probably giving him a 0.5-1inch shoe advantage. Clearly no lifts.

How many other Sly comparison pics have the same number of variables taken care of? None.

Sly destroyed in Rome: Click Here proved what almost all of us knew all along, Sly is clearly in the 5'8 range and most certainly not a hair over 5'9.

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000

Parker says on 12/Oct/09
Rising - I was a Sly 5'10 guy for quite some time, the pic that made me start doubting that was the barefoot pic with Nielson on the beach.....has anyone still got it?
He really looked to be struggling at 5'9 to me in that one.

Zach says on 12/Oct/09
The Rome pictures are number one for gauging Sly's height bar none. The immediate reaction by the posters itself proved what an effective comparison that was.

* It was clearly on a flat indoor surface
* It wasnt a film/stage shot
* Both Sly and Flavin were standing facing and posing for the camera. No cuddling, tip toes or stretching malarky.
* We know Flavin is no more than 5'9 (even Glenn estimated her being 5'7-9)
* And crucially there's clearly no lifts/elevators/heels involved. Flavin is in completely flat sandals whilst Stallone is in regular footwear, probably giving him a 0.5-1inch shoe advantage. Clearly no lifts.

How many other Sly comparison pics have the same number of variables taken care of? None.

Sly destroyed in Rome: Click Here proved what almost all of us knew all along, Sly is clearly in the 5'8 range and most certainly not a hair over 5'9.

Vibram says on 12/Oct/09
True. Stallone couldn't of been more than the Cruiserweight division for Rocky.

He trimmed down to 72kg (159lbs) for First Blood.
read more: Click Here

RisingForce says on 12/Oct/09
This is still the only barefoot pictur of Sly and Jennifer where they're not walking. Click Here

Yes it appears Sly is on slightly higher ground, but it's not like they end up the same height in the picture. The top of Flavin's head minus her hair ends up about 3 inches shorter. Her knees appear to be bent a bit, but she's also stretching her neck while Sly's neck is not completely straight. All things considered, he seems taller than her there and defintley taller than 5'8". I'd bet money that if they were standing in eachother's spots and Flavin was taller that most here would be using that as evidence that Sly is 5'8".

Here's another barefoot photo that I believe is often overlooked. Click Here

Sly is stretching his neck and Brigitte is bending, but he ends up taller than her. Some write it off by saying that he's tip toeing, but his foot doesn't seem tat elevated to me. If he's tip toeing I doubt he's gaining much. It seems less clear to me though than that photo of Arnold barefoot where he appeared to be tip toeing.

Regardless, it's obvious to me that Brigitte is not 4 inches taller than Sly. At most 3, but it doesn't look that much there.

I think those pictures are ignored or forgotten because nobody wants to see the celebrities looking taller. The pics where they look shorter are more interesting. A perfect example is the barefoot picture of Tom and Katie. Most still insist that he's 5'7" max despite the barefoot picture where he looks taller. The opposite is true on the Brad Pitt page where everyone is insisting he's 5'10" max because he looks it in the barefoot picture. Is that photo any better than the Cruise picture? No.

The way I see it is that photos even where Sly is liftless show him at different heights. It's not like all evidence points to him being under 5'9" and it's not like all evidence points to him being 5'9"-5'10". The fact is that you could make a good case for either side, but it's more interesting to go with the lower end because he's a big action star.

RisingForce says on 12/Oct/09
And to be clear the pic in Rome has to rank in the top 3 or 5 for best single pics to gauge his height.

RisingForce says on 12/Oct/09
A stand alone pic is never conclusive. There's too many things that can throw off a picture, sometimes things that aren't visible. I'm not saying it's not great evidence, but one picture never confirms someone's height.

TELLEM says on 11/Oct/09
sly is 5'8. that rome pic killed this whole 5'9 theory of sly.

burby says on 11/Oct/09
Sly was looking barely 5'8" in that Rome shot. Getting owned by a 5'9" flat gal in non-NYC sandals while Sly is in dress shoes is scary.......

RisingForce says on 11/Oct/09
Derek, that photo is clearly mid-stride. There's not even the possibility that their feet are planted just by looking at Sly and Jennifer's legs. The other was harder to tell, but after looking at that photo again I agree with everyone that it's likely mid-stride. Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a photo from the series where they stand barefoot instead of walk.

RisingForce says on 11/Oct/09
That's true about his weight, Brian. I read Sly say that he was 176 in Rocky, 200 in Rocky 2, 163 in Rocky 3 and 173 in Rocky 4. Only in Rocky 2 would he be close, but honestly he doesn't look 200 pounds to me in that movie.

derek d says on 11/Oct/09
Dural says on 11/Oct/09
Here's another barefoot pic of Sly and Flavin on the beach

Click Here

Dural, if you ask me that is probably the most conclusive barefoot picture of Sly we have other than the Claudia Schiffer one (which everyone seems to ignore.) I'm sick of people saying beach photos are useless due to the sand, that is totally wrong I'm sorry. There's no slope there, they're no where near the ocean and the ground seems pretty even. Why judge Sly in lifts (which is 24/7) while this here is the best evidence. He appears this same height next to Flavin in the "imfamous Rome picture". I don't think that is a coincidence. Sly need needs to be downgraded to at least 5'8.5

Dural says on 11/Oct/09
Here's another barefoot pic of Sly and Flavin on the beach

Click Here

Brian says on 11/Oct/09
I must say I'm glad that Rocky IV didn't downplay the fact that Sly would be undersized for a heavyweight (By about 1/2 a foot below average to be exact), what with him standing with big Dolph Lundgren for the final fight scene. I mean, the other movies seemed to just treat Rocky as a normal heavyweight, not dealing with what would probably be a huge reach disadvantage. I seriously doubt Stallone even really reached the actual weight requirement for a heavyweight in any of the movies ar his height. Though Rocky 4 didn't have much charm, it wasn't afraid to have Stallone dwarfed by a larger-sized guy, which Sly seems to try to avoid in real life.

I actually thought the size disadvantage in Rocky 4 gave Rocky all the more of that "underdog" feel. Seems to cohere more with the character of Rocky. I know it's just movies, but it's just such a rarity to see Sly content with such a size difference, which I was fine with myself.

The Seth says on 11/Oct/09
Stallone is 5 ft 9 in (175 cm)
peak height 5 ft 9.5 in (177cm)

Simp says on 10/Oct/09
Aleks is very correct.

RisingForce says on 10/Oct/09
I'm just saying Mickey that Sly pulls off heights that seem impossible for Wahlberg. Sly can easily pull off looking like a solid 5'11", even a 6 ft guy. I'm not sure I've seen Mark look 5'10" and he has worn big boots before.

the shredder says on 10/Oct/09
Rob , do you think 5'8.5 is possible for Sly ?

Aleks says on 10/Oct/09
Wahlberg is 5'7" tops and Sly is 5'8".