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Lozzer says on 20/Nov/09
Chump!
That's an easy 5'9" in my opinion! Nobody would argue, but if you want to be real honest go for 5'8.5" or 174cm. It is nowhere near 5'8". I measure exactly half an inch below you and I claim anything from 5'8" to 5'8.5" (173-174cm...not a big difference really)
James says on 20/Nov/09
L.K you might reach 186cm or 187cm. If your lucky yes possilbly a full 188cm but NO way more. AKK says on 20/Nov/09
ZAQ: Interesting. I do wish sometimes that 5'7-9 girls were more common where I live, because for the most part, girls under 5'4" just feel too much like I'm dating a child(and many of them have personalities to match, except when they rage, then they're crazy dangerous to be around). I do wonder though, whether for example, a girl who was always the tallest in the class(even taller than the boys, until male puberty kicked in), would have a different personality compared to a girl who only shot up during the tail end of her puberty, by which point, she would be either "catching up" to the boys, or growing at/about the same pace. For me, for much of my early school life, I was always in the smallest 5 guys(out of ~20 guys in a class of ~40) until about age 14. Interesting thing, I'm lactose intolerant, but I suspect that during my pre-teen years, taking cultured milk drinks(y'know, those with "live and active cultures") helped me to overcome it(or at least suppress it enough to absorb the calcium from those milk products I didn't avoid). This was what probably allowed me to get the full 10 inches per year from ages 11-15. So umm, yeah, those of you still going through puberty who can't drink milk(but are not vegan/vegetarian), remember that yoghurt is pre-digested for you, so you should still be able to get the calcium you need for growth. :) James says on 20/Nov/09
Once this 6'1-6'2 guy called my 5'11 friend short and even rubbed in the fact that he was taller and had a bigger build tham him.
Also I saw this 184cm guy call a 5ft10-5ft11 guy short. Its a bit silly really a 6ft guy calling a 5ft11 man short. James says on 20/Nov/09
Vibram listen a lot of people face all kinds of injutice in this world. I have friends with red hair who get mocked for having that hair colour and I have seen black people in my own hometown get mocked for being afro carribean. Some of my friends who have red hair struggle to get dates and some black people I know struggle to find jobs or settle down with a partner, in fact I know this black guy who is 6ft3 and is struggling to settle down and have kids becasue of the colour of his skin. L.K says on 20/Nov/09
GUYS,I HAVE MEASURED MY HEIGHT SINCE I WAS 8 YEARS OLD AD MY GROTH CHART IS;
8 - 4'9.5
9 - 5'0.5
10 - 5'3.7
11 - 5'6
12 - 5'7
13 - 5'8.5
14 - 5'10
15 - 5'10.5
16 - 5'11
17 - 6'0.5
GUYS DO U THINK CAN I REACH 6'2 - 6'4 BY 20? IS IT POSSIBLE.? Tony M says on 20/Nov/09
How many zones of height would people say there are? i.e -1)FREAK, 1) Very Short, 2) Short, 3) Average, 4) Above Average, 5) Tall, 6) Very Tall, 7) FREAK.
How do we classify the ranges? I think the peopple in the Above average height category could abuse the figures because by saying your above average will lead most people to think they are tall. Another battle the 5ft9rs have against the 5ft10rs! lol
Also, does anyone think that the Alexander Technique is a good way for sorting posture problems out and as a way of measuring your height i.e By Balancing a Hard Strong Text Book On The Top Of Your Head and Marking It Of With A Pen and Tape Measure - Or Would that be Way Wrong?
Because some peoples posture is that bad they only know how to stand straight when they have to balance something on head! LOL Jake says on 20/Nov/09
5'3 and under - extremely and very noticeably short
5'4/5'5 - very short
5'6/5'7 - short
5'8/5'9 - below average
5'10/5'11 - average
6'0 - above average
6'1/6'2/6'3 - tall
6'4/6'5 - very tall
6'6 and over - extremely and very noticeably tall
I agree with your chart Vibram John says on 19/Nov/09
Vibram you are very very ill...I am serious, I truly question the extent of your mental disorder. I worry for you brother. Clay says on 19/Nov/09
I agree with all of that Vibram. dmeyer says on 19/Nov/09
under 5 FT 10 is considered kinda short Matt says on 19/Nov/09
Speaking of confidence and growth rate, I saw a guy on MTV's "True Life" that was like this. He competes in "World's Strongest Man" but he was sort of a late bloomer. Although he is very big, he said that when he looks in the mirror, he still sees a skinny little kid. The Dutchguy says on 19/Nov/09
Mmm..i think that when a guy is 5'9, or shorter, he is short, regardless of his build, however, there is nothing wrong with being short, for example; when im riding the train, im hardly ever the tallest guy in the wagon(6'4'' here), there are always a couple of 6'4-6'8 guys there, and school.. im slightely above average there(and this is not one of those ''Durr, Dutch people are like, Huge! posts, trust me, this is sincere(''hateful'' comments will be ignored)
at my school,
6'-6'3 is about average
6'4-6'10 is tall(tall, very tall, all the same to me)
And when you're 5'10 or shorter, you're considered short, but you wont get harrassed, never Ever, not even if you are 25 stone or 6 stone,us (15-18 year old!)schoolkids know better then that..
I think that the only people who harrass ''shorties'' are either Douchebags, or mentally challenged jocks,and keep in mind that there will always be people who are Taller/shorter/bigger/smaller/more handsome/less handsome then you..no need to feel insecure,Peace Vibram says on 19/Nov/09
As I was only 5ft4 and only 88lbs (maybe even hair shorter; 5ft3.5 probable) at 16, this may have shot my esteem for the rest of my life without me knowing it? I am a 5ft9.5 guy who still thinks he's viewed at 5ft4 through the worlds eyes? To be honest, I remember how awful I felt standing in ques ready for my GCSE exams and all other guys towered me and seemed at least 8 out 10 stages through their physical development, me at about stage 3; early puberty. I would say my class averaged 5ft8 - 5ft9 at age 15 / 16 for guys. With 3 or 4 guys (out of 17 guys) standing over 6ft. There was one guy smaller than me in my class, by 1 inch, but he had numerous health problems (chronic asthma) and wore a hearing aid, and was from a large poor family I might add to. I'm middle class.
It was only made worse that I was one of the oldest in the year (September 4th; if I was just born 4 days earlier I would of been in the year above). A lot of peers even had goatee beards (lol I didn't even start to shave until 23). Girls weren't interested in me cos I was "too young" even though they would date other guys the same year as me, even many, many months younger. All these things can effect esteem for sure.
Sucks to have gone through that crap a? Vibram says on 19/Nov/09
Tony M says
"No matter what people say about 5ft 10 it’s considered a nice healthy height. Obviously the 6 footers won’t say that. Whereas 5ft 9s seem to create great indifference."
Exactly. And I only think the over 6-footers will verbally mistreat a 5ft10 guy man if involves rivalry over a woman. People are generally cautious at bullying a guy over 5ft10, regardless if he's slim build or doesn't look very powerful, but it seems they do it at free will to guys that are 5ft9 and below and lack "heft" (don't look strong). It's like how women think 6ft male = protection, where as 5ft8 male = can't protect. I think men think the same, it's like they are programmed to think men below 5ft10 "need to be tested for manliness to see if they can defend themselves or are they a pu**y boy". It's like people are trying to crush you to make feel like your small and worthless.
From my experience, if your a well built (tank-like say 190lbs ) 5ft9 guy, fair game - people wouldn't dare call you small, but slim and slight / low muscle mass 5ft9 guy with a 'nerd' or young (not rugged & manly) face, people will be inclined to call you small and treat you abjectly, like a bully would do to very small victim. No matter how inclined people are to my views, I KNOW WELL ENOUGH 5'9' is the commonest height to fall under severe scrutiny. You only have to look on this website that male celebs who are listed 5ft9 receive the lions share of debates.
Some common remarks on a popular 5ft9 celeb guy here (I won't give his name)
Guy1: "he looks average to me, he passes for 5ft10"
Guy2: "No way is he average!!....this guy is TINNNYYY, like 5ft7". Mike says on 19/Nov/09
Vibram says on 19/Nov/09
Mike says on 18/Nov/09
Do people agree with this chart for the 18-30 age range in the UK?
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Yes, spot on man more or less. Without faffing on I still think 5ft11 should be in the average range for 18-30 along with 5ft10.
Revised IMO:
5'3 and under - extremely and very noticeably short
5'4/5'5 - very short
5'6/5'7 - short
5'8/5'9 - below average
5'10/5'11 - average
6'0 - above average
6'1/6'2/6'3 - tall
6'4/6'5 - very tall
6'6 and over - extremely and very noticebaly tall
Ideal height range - 5'11 - 6'3 (180cm - 190cm)
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Your height chart doesnt actually work Vibram. As was pointed out to me in previous posts, the value for each height below the average should correlate with the heights above. For example, this is what you have:
5'8/5'9 - below average
5'10/5'11 - average
6'0 - above average
6'1/6'2/6'3 - tall
This is what it should be:
5'8/5'9 - average
5'10/5'11 - average
6'0/6'1 - above average
6'2/6'3 - tall
If you put 5'10/5'11 as the average and 5'8/5'9 as below average, then 6'0/6'1 has to be above average, otherwise it doesnt make sense.
IMO 5'11 is not average height for 18-30 year olds in the UK, maybe in another 10-20 years.. jed says on 19/Nov/09
Vibram has a point actually. In Freakonomics it talks about how a guy who is tall at 16 will be more confident than a guy who only gets tall at 20. If you are 5'9 and grew later on, then although average at full height, you were small throughout your teenage years. Thus feel less confident. c-mo says on 19/Nov/09
its very confusing to be between 173cm (5'8) and 177cm (around 5'9.5) because you are not really short but not really solid average too :-D .....like i said before my height is 177-178cm first in the morning and 176cm most of the day (like vibram) ....and most men at the same height like me will agree with me at this point that our height is really tricky and weird Tony M says on 19/Nov/09
Hi Guys, I'm laughing my backside off here!
I think what Vibram is trying to say here is that 5ft 9 is a real watermark/crossover point/twilight area or whatever you want to call it.
I myself tried the Alexander Technique the other day by trying to stand straight whilst balancing a hard book on my head and measuring the bottom of the book edge with a tape measure bare foot. Now my posture is really bad and the reason for doing all this is because my posture is starting to give me back pain. I’m trying a number of things throughout the day to alleviate the pressure on my lumber and then measuring it the following day.
I can measure anywhere between 5ft9 ½ solid to 5ft 9 ¾ but never anything either way.
My point being is that I feel that missing quarter inch off 5ft 10 (double figures) does have the tendency to make you feel short. Crushed even. It’s a real strange height to be at. You feel very square. Whereas if I see anyone smaller than me I consider them all to be very small. Even if it’s only a ¼ inch smaller than me. So I know I must either be small or on the cusp of smalldom.
Whereas someone 5ft 7 knows they are small period and someone 6ft knows they are tall period. Whilst someone 5ft 10 would never consider themselves small even if they felt small, thought they had bad posture or felt small around 6ft people because at the end of the day when it comes down to it they are 5ft 10. Which is a nice clear height to be at.
To me it’s like a safety zone or the finishing line. You’ve made it!
No matter what people say about 5ft 10 it’s considered a nice healthy height. Obviously the 6 footers won’t say that. Whereas 5ft 9s seem to create great indifference.
Although, I myself feel short I’ve got a work friend who I often regard as being a height I’d love to look like and when I stand toe to toe with him I am actually the same height! I just can’t work it out. I feel when I’m not around him about 3inches smaller. Whilst when I stand around him it gives me more of an insight to my actual height rather than perceived height.
But at the end of the day, I don’t feel his height and that’s the problems 5ft9s have to deal with. I think anyway.
VIBRAMS POST
Simpleton, most chicks don't think 5-9 is 5-10 or 5-11. In my experience you’re more likely to be seen as the 5-7 "Tom Cruise range & media insults" guy as I've said many times.
I would like to live where you live if those chicks see 5ft9 as 5ft11. G.G says on 19/Nov/09
Age: 15 years and 21 days
Height: 186.5cm
Morning: 188.35cm
Afternoon: 186.5cm
Evening: 186.3cm
Weight: 72.7kg
Armspan: 191 - 192cm
Shoe Size: US 11.5 - 12
My dad is 172cm, my mum is 170cm, my older bro is 178cm, my older sister is 170cm. My cousins and uncles from my mum's side are in the 180 - 190cm range. How tall do you think i will be when fully grown? Estimates?
@ mike i think the average in the UK is 177cm as claimed by Daniel Craig "Well I do really think im at an very average height and will fulfill the role as James Bond well". And Daniel Craig is 177cm, according to this site.
PS: 3 metres is my goal. UNSTOPPABLE IN BASKETBALL! Vibram says on 19/Nov/09
Mike says on 18/Nov/09
Do people agree with this chart for the 18-30 age range in the UK?
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Yes, spot on man more or less. Without faffing on I still think 5ft11 should be in the average range for 18-30 along with 5ft10.
Revised IMO:
5'3 and under - extremely and very noticeably short
5'4/5'5 - very short
5'6/5'7 - short
5'8/5'9 - below average
5'10/5'11 - average
6'0 - above average
6'1/6'2/6'3 - tall
6'4/6'5 - very tall
6'6 and over - extremely and very noticebaly tall
Ideal height range - 5'11 - 6'3 (180cm - 190cm) Chump says on 19/Nov/09
I'm 5'9.25 straight out of bed, 5'9 on the dot a half hour later, and 5'8.75 throughout the day. Before going to bed at night I am 5'8.5. Should I be telling people I'm 5'9? or 5'8? Vibram says on 19/Nov/09
Kristen says on 17/Nov/09
I might understand the origin of Vibram's issues (if he's serious). He was small from the ages of 11 to 16, so maybe his mind is still stuck at that particular time in his life. He doesn't realize that he's average height now. He still feels like the small boy who was towered by other boys and girls.
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You might have some things right there, but at 5ft9.3 I'm still 1" below average for a white British male under 50. There is evidence which suggests a guys height at age 16 has profound influence on how successful he is in adult life. An early maturing boy could reach full adult height by 16, whilst a small minority are just starting puberty and are still short and childlike.
Click Here
" For men, height appears to be the ticket for favoritism.
Economists Nicola Persico, Andrew Postlewaite and Dan Silverman tried to explain the origin of the "height premium." They found that for white men in the United States, a 1.8-percent increase in wages accompanies every additional inch of height. Men's wages as adults can be linked to their height at age 16. For a given adult height, Persico, Postlewaite and Silverman found that increasing height at age 16 by one inch increased adult wages by 2.6 percent, on average. For two adult men of the same height, the one who was taller at 16 would most likely earn the higher wage. " ZAQ says on 19/Nov/09
Vibram
i dont mean to brag but i scored on a hott girl that was probably around 5'9 maybe 5'9 1/2 barefoot
she was same height as me when i had my shoes on and she had thin flats.
but the thing is she was probably never hit on by guys cause she's that tall
so vibram see this is pure confidence i am 5'7 1/2
you have a 2 inch advantage on me you should do better than me at this stuff ZAQ says on 19/Nov/09
Vibram
Can you do a side by side comparison of how old u looked when you were at your actual age.
like from 16 to 24 Bohm says on 18/Nov/09
@Shemp. At least 6'8 Mike says on 18/Nov/09
Do people agree with this chart for the 18-30 age range in the UK?
5'3 and under - extremely and very noticeably short
5'4/5'5 - very short
5'6/5'7 - short
5'8/5'9 - below average
5'10 - average
5'11/6'0 - above average
6'1/6'2 - tall
6'3/6'4 - very tall
6'5 and over - extremely and very noticebaly tall
Ideal height range - 5'11-6'1 shemp says on 18/Nov/09
I'm 6'2.5 now (evening height). Growing up I always wanted to be 6'5, but now I realise I wouldn't want to be that tall. Ideally I'd like to be 6'3 in the evening, I.e. 6'3.5 in the morning barefoot. But I'm pretty satisfied with my height as it is. aramx says on 18/Nov/09
Does any of you guys think it is a myth that shorter people live longer than taller people? I mean excluding pituitary giants I think taller people don't live any shorter or less healthier. jed says on 18/Nov/09
To be that much taller than you at 6'2.5? Well, 10 inch head (being generous) - 4 (for forehead) = 6 inches. So probably 6'8/6'9.
Vibram, man, I think you have confidence issues above all else. I think you should lighten up. If girls were checking you out when you had lifts then you must be good looking, regardless. Being 6'1 in shoes does not equal getting girls without a half decent face! Seriously, if I were you, don't wear stupid lifts, but just put a little extra in your shoes to get you up to a 5'10 bare foot illusion so you look 5'11 in shoes. It must be tough man, but please, don't get worked up on it. You aren't a bad height. I have loads of friends 5'7-5'9 who have hot girlfriends.
6'7 bloody sticks out mate! That's insanely tall. 6'4 is the max you can be without sticking out like a sore thumb. But you stand out at 6'2 half the time.
Ideal height for a man in my opinion is 6'2-6'3.25 (188-191cm) anything over 6'4 is too tall even for an athlete (unless basketballer). klem says on 18/Nov/09
I woulf prefer to be 6-1. Tall among girls(very popular height), quick and agile in sports + good for hitting weights, if you like the athletic look more than stocky and buff. JAK says on 18/Nov/09
The tallest I'd ever want to be is 6'4. 6'7 just seems to be too much of an inconvenience, you would have to duck to get through doors. Mike says on 18/Nov/09
asdf says on 17/Nov/09
I'm 6'5" barefoot... and a little over 6'5" in the morning. My wingspan is about 79", which actually seems low to me. My standing reach is about 8'6"; I can easily press my knuckles against an 8' ceiling. If I could be any height I would choose 6'7"... the upper limit to which you can grow without sticking out like a sore thumb.
When I go somewhere with my brothers we can draw some attention; usually people will think we are part of a basketball team. We are 6'4", 6'5", and 6'7".
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You want to be 6'7?! I'm sorry but at 6'5 you already stick out like a sore thumb. Why on earth would you want to be this tall? Its like a guy who's 5'3 wishing he was 5'1, makes no sense! Zwaard says on 17/Nov/09
Question whats the age at which you start losing height and how much can I expect to lose if I'm 5'11.75? Kristen says on 17/Nov/09
I might understand the origin of Vibram's issues (if he's serious). He was small from the ages of 11 to 16, so maybe his mind is still stuck at that particular time in his life. He doesn't realize that he's average height now. He still feels like the small boy who was towered by other boys and girls.
And another thing, Vibram was wrong about environmental impact on final height. Malnutrition can stunt growth way more than just three inches. William says on 17/Nov/09
I'm kind of weird when it comes to morning/afternoon height. In the morning i can be over 177cm and at the end of the day im usually close to 173cm. One time in a really stressfull week with barely a decent nights sleep i even got close to 171 cm. I think it's a spine problem, iv'e always hade a weak back. Thing is i'm 22 and i live in holland, so i really feel short most of the time. frank says on 17/Nov/09
vibram you are average in height but maybe you are under average in other areas?You catch my drift? It might explain why you are on a constant downer. shemp says on 17/Nov/09
Today I saw this old guy in town. He looked at least 70 years old. I am 6'2.5 barefoot, so slightly over 6'3 in shoes. This old guy was huge. My eyes were below his chin. How tall would that make him more or less. Also he still had very good posture. Mitch says on 17/Nov/09
Your height chart and weight is actually identical to mine Vibram, only I'm 5'8", 130 pounds and 19 at the moment. Bohm says on 17/Nov/09
Vibram should be banned. SV says on 17/Nov/09
Rob why does 182cm get listed as both 5' 11.5 and 5' 11.75? Also at the top of this page what does this mean General Height height: 7 ft 6.5 in (230 cm) ?
[Editor Rob: it's just a random figure because the page is just like any other height page. 182cm is 5ft 11.65 so 11.5 and 11.75 is close to that cm mark.] B-lab says on 17/Nov/09
Vibram says on 16/Nov/09
I don't know why I ended up at just 5ft9.3 (176cm) but my slightly older brother 6ft2 (or 6ft1.75; 187cm). 11cm is a huge difference to brothers born of the same parents 1.5 years aparts.
Two of my frienda are brothers, a year and a half apart. Dad is a solid 6ft possibly weak 6ft1. Mom is 5ft8, maybe 5ft8.5
The older brother is 5ft6.5-5ft7 max (169-170cm), my best friend is at least 6ft2, maybe 6ft2.5 (188-189cm).
Both are skinny, very in athletics, eat healthy, and get plenty of sleep.
Its just genetics man.
Oh and the shorter one has an incredibly smoking hot girlfriend around 5ft4 or 5ft5 and they been going out for over 2 years now, the taller one has had a girlfriend here and there but nothing too serious. Both are very humorous and confident guys too, and neither is ugly Aleks says on 17/Nov/09
I don't think diet has a significant effect on growth. Unless you do eat like those poor kids in Africa. Vibram says on 17/Nov/09
Can guys that are 5ft8, 5ft9, 5ft10 please give me their shoulder heights barefoot please. Other guys that aren't those heights can feel to give their results if they want.
To measure shoulder, stand against a straight wall barefoot, with a pencil mark the wall where the lowest part of your shoulder is (relax the shoulders, be natural - don't shrug or tense up). Now measure up the wall to that mark with a tape measure.
Me
5ft9.3 (176cm) barefoot
Shoulder height: 145cm Simpleton says on 17/Nov/09
What kills me about Vibram is, since he tops out at 5-9.5, he could be as high as 5-10.5 in shoes, and even scraping 5-11 in the best shoes!! Hes full of air.
Most chicks are gonna see a legit 5-9 at 5-10-5-10.5 at least. I dont know why he has this weird agenda on here to make 5-9 seem short. To group 5-9 with 5-7 or shorter tells you he needs help. Even 5-8 can look average half the time. Vibram says on 17/Nov/09
James I knew I grew one inch between 21 and 24 because I measured myself at my parents house. My mums sister was a nurse and emigrated to Canada in the early 80s. She left behind loads of clunky stuff she didn't want to take with her, so my mum saved loads of stuff from otherwise being dumped at the tip. One item was a Stadiometer. I measured myself at 21. I left home to live alone at 21 / nearly 22 but decided to dig out those scales from my parents loft one xmas visit when I was 24. I wasn't surprised I was one inch taller, I had a feeling I'd grown sometime at 23. AKK says on 17/Nov/09
Hmm. I never grew(or if I did, was in fractions of mm per year) since about the age of 15 and a half. That year I was measured at 173cm(being born at the end of the year and all, I was typically half a year or more younger than most people in my class). Recently, I've been re-measuring myself, and I suspect I MAY have snuck up to 174, but it's kind of hard to tell for sure(then again, having been hit on the top of the head a few times over the years could well have thickened my skull enough for that. :P James says on 17/Nov/09
Vibram how do you know that you grew that extra inch when you were in your early 20's? Sorry I know its a bit of a dumb question to ask. save says on 17/Nov/09
woww Vibram you really grew even at 24? i'm hoping i'll grow a little more..i have not grown since i was 17...now i'm 21... btw i agree with you about feeling short at 5'9 sometimes...but most of the time u should feel plain average...which is what u are..i'm 5'10 and sometimes i feel tall, sometimes i feeel short.. depends on the people around.
i can relate to you on the whole sibling thing...except mine is worse...i have a SISTER who grew to be 5'9... so in heels she's taller than me....most of my sister's friends expect me to be about 6'2 before they meet me...just because of how tall my sister is for a girl.......i guess it's all in the genes we inherit. asdf says on 17/Nov/09
I'm 6'5" barefoot... and a little over 6'5" in the morning. My wingspan is about 79", which actually seems low to me. My standing reach is about 8'6"; I can easily press my knuckles against an 8' ceiling. If I could be any height I would choose 6'7"... the upper limit to which you can grow without sticking out like a sore thumb.
When I go somewhere with my brothers we can draw some attention; usually people will think we are part of a basketball team. We are 6'4", 6'5", and 6'7". Vibram says on 17/Nov/09
This is the height chart of me (5ft9.25; b. 09/1978) and my brother (6ft2; b. 05/1977) growing up.
Me (left) / brother (right)
Age
11: 4ft4 / don't know
12: 4ft7 / 5ft
13: 4ft10 / 5ft3
14: 5ft / 5ft8
15: 5ft2 / 5ft9.5
16: 5ft4 / 5ft11
17: 5ft7 / 6ft
18: 5ft7.5 / 6ft1
19: 5ft8 / 6ft2 (final height reached)
20: 5ft8.25 / nil
21: 5ft8.75 / nil
22: don't know / nil
23: don't know / nil
24: 5ft9.3 / nil Vibram says on 17/Nov/09
Simpleton, most chicks don't think 5-9 is 5-10 or 5-11. In my experience your more likely to be seen as the 5-7 "Tom Cruise range & media insults" guy as I've said many times.
I would like to live where you live if those chicks see 5ft9 as 5ft11.
James, I ate very well growing up except at 19. At 19 (1997) I was a student living in halls and didn't eat very good and sometimes got no or little sleep. I was already 5ft8 by then though and I was no different to other guys in my sleeping and eating habits. I did look way younger than them in face and build. I did eat a lot of cheese, bread and milk(protein) but hardly any veg, maybe 1 onion in the evening meal and a tomato. Some fruit, maybe 1 apple a day.
I also stayed off the drugs, heavy drinking and smoking that was rife in the halls.
I grew quite late until 23/24 so maybe I could of got 5ft10 instead of 5ft9.25 from one bad college term? Besides, diet doesn't play much role in reaching your final height, it's very small percentage. I knew a guy that smoked pot and took drugs since 11, got fed rubbish tinned stuff from his mum and he got to 6ft3.
I also ate better than my 6ft2 brother - he wouldn't touch milk and was a vegetarian from 10.
When my mum made sunday roast I had to eat his portion of cauliflower. So he just had roast potatoes, yorkshire puddings and carrots. I had roast potatoes, yorkshire puddings, carrots, roast beef, cauliflower and gravy. So I got way more veg (vitamins) and meat (protein) several days a week.
I read even in the worst cases of poor diet, environmental stresses, neglect and childhood illnesses', growth is only only compromised 3" max in those situations.
When your being made in your mums tummy is far more important than what your exposed to from 0 - 18 years old. G.G says on 17/Nov/09
Something to sway away from Vibram's stupid comments:
Age: 15 years and 19 days
Height: 186.5cm
Morning: 188.35cm
Afternoon: 186.5cm
Evening: 186.3cm
Weight: 72.7kg
Armspan: 191 - 192cm
Shoe Size: US 11.5 - 12
My dad is 172cm, my mum is 170cm, my older bro is 178cm, my older sister is 170cm. My cousins and uncles from my mum's side are in the 180 - 190cm range. How tall do you think i will be when fully grown? Estimates?
PS: vibram stop posting your bullsh*it james K says on 17/Nov/09
Zwaard says on 15/Nov/09
I'm kinda depressed about my height. When I was 14 I had a huge growth spurt and grew to 5'9-5'10, I was one of the tallest people in my class. I thought I was going to be really tall but completely stopped growing when I was 16. Now I'm 19 and 6'0.2 in the morning and 5'11.6 at night, which isn't too bad but I'm afraid of losing height when I'm a bit older. Is it strange to have stopped growing that young? (I checked and I haven't grown even a little bit since then)
hey im a bit like you i have just turned 19 and i had a bit spurt betwwen 13-14. At 14 i was about 5'9-5'10. Then i stopped growing at around 16-17. I only grew around 3 inches. My height now is 1.84 evening and 1.86 morning. i Guess we just grew quickly when we were young. G.G says on 17/Nov/09
Vibram says on 16/Nov/09
You wouldn't believe how differently I was treated. A few young women came up to
me and started talking and flicking their hair, complete female strangers trying to make small talk. This had never happened to me at 5ft9.25. The amount of smiles from females I got as well. I don't even think I'm good looking.
People were much less insolent and ignorant. I got called "Sir" numerous times, which I hardly ever get at 5ft9.3. The only times I get called Sir at 5ft9.3 are when being served in an Indian Restaurant. Female shop cashiers would talk to you more, they would give more "hello's". The other non-verbal clues as well were interesting. For instance I'd be ordering a coffee in a takeaway, some females would be behind me in the que (obviously noticing my height). After I finished my order and went and sat down, a few of these females would make an effort to sit near me, when there was plenty of other tables free in the cafe they could have gone to. This is in almost empty cafes. Again this has never happened to me at 5ft9.3. Stuff like that must really boost a tall guys confidence towards getting women, at least females initiate their interest a lot more, a hell of a lot more.
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Wow, Roll on floor laughing... its on in your head.
Vibram can you post a picture of yourself please?
This should settle the "5'3" theory of you.
HAHA peace Brian says on 16/Nov/09
Vibram, I think you should just cut it with these kinds of posts. Being shocked that you're treated like a person at 5'9"-5'10" just makes you look insane. It's the really big tall people that have trouble with that.
Last year, to give us an idea of a character in a novel, my English teacher called people who are super tall (6'6"+) and heavy "Things", citing her own x-brother-in law as an example. I'm no small guy myself, but I still think I'd fit her definition of a human, however I have a 6'8" cousin (Certainly not a bafoon like she thinks of tall people as), so I kind of took offense. And I doubt that she'd say that about average-sized guy like yourself. So, tell me, Vibram, would you really want to give up your current height to be 6-and-a-half-feet tall, which in some people's eyes denotes a loss of humanity? Would you want to be a "Thing"?
I honestly think that you're in need of a psychiatrist. Having a 6'2" brother obviously made you envy the 6'+ crowd. You have some deep-seated mental problems with the idea of not measuring up to others. Now, can we move on from these Vibram debates after this? This page is being flooded with it. Just wanted to get my two cents in first. avr says on 16/Nov/09
I agree with jed too, girls always think i'm about 6 feet tall, and I'm not. Also short people in general, now that I just turned 16 I'm 5'11, a year ago about 5'7, and in the last 5 months I grew from 5'8 to 5'11, I encountered a guy who is about 5'7 whom I knew from school last year (when I was his height or 1 inch taller) and he said "wow, you have grown a lot, are you about 6'2?" I am 6/6'0.5 feet tall with shoes. Big height differences tend to make height guessing unaccurate.
And Vibram, confidence is important, there are a lot of 5'9 guys who don't give a damn about height, only people who care about it feel short. A lot of men are under 5'9. The Pretender says on 16/Nov/09
I have been doing some research for quite some time and what I've found out is that doctors/orthopedists either don't know what ideal/optimal MAN height is or are they avoiding this question as much as possible due to racist claims... However I have found out that optimal, full grown man should be no more or no less than 6'3" to round up or 190cm. This is just the best MAN height. One of best representors of this ideal height is Michael T. Weiss (The Pretender) J.J. says on 16/Nov/09
Well 5'9.5" is the true average in western countries . With northern Europe being 5'10.5"-6'0.25" (Holland). But this range is within 3" which doesn't really make the Dutch people much taller than the rest of the West. The average Dutch woman is still under 170cm(it's actually 169cm).
If anyman is 5'9.5" or over I don't think you have a problem at all. In Holland most tall guys are easily 187cm/6'1.5" & their true average is 6'0.25". They still consider the good old 6'2" as tall. & a 185cm man would never be called short. But the difference us that so many tall men I've noticed are easily 6'2.5" that's when tallness really begin. Then is you hit 190cm/ pretty much 6'3" you start getting the same tall comments a 6'1" person gets in the rest of europe.
So 5'11"-6'0.5" is kind of falling on the tall outside of Holland
& 6'1.5" is falling on the tall side in holland & Northern Europe. A full 189cm/ 6'2.5" will be tall in Holland keegan says on 16/Nov/09
vibram my friend 176cm is not bad at all man .i wud love 2 be around your height. lets be honest your taller then majority of girls , so wat more do ya need ? urve gotta work on ur personality it seems , or work on things u can change such as phyisique ( bro get ripped as and ull pull more seriously lol )
bro im 168cm with a bulky / stocky frame , and short legs( so i can look smaller than wat i am) and still pull chicks ae , just gotta have a half decent face , n gotta portray urself as a confident guy , and from experience a degree of cockiness can help to lol , just not too much
so vibram bro , just b glad your not 5'6 or sumthin , 5'9 is fukin a class height bro , urve got nuthin 2 worry bout at all Anonymous says on 16/Nov/09
vibram my friend 176cm is not bad at all man .i wud love 2 be around your height. lets be honest your taller then majority of girls , so wat more do ya need ? urve gotta work on ur personality it seems , or work on things u can change such as phyisique ( bro get ripped as and ull pull more seriously lol )
bro im 168cm with a bulky / stocky frame , and short legs( so i can look smaller than wat i am) and still pull chicks ae , just gotta have a half decent face , n gotta portray urself as a confident guy , and from experience a degree of cockiness can help to lol , just not too much
so vibram bro , just b glad your not 5'6 or sumthin , 5'9 is fukin a class height bro , urve got nuthin 2 worry bout at all shemp says on 16/Nov/09
Vibram. So let me get this straight. You are 5'9.5 barefoot, so over 5'10 in shoes. When you are this height, random girls laugh at you and people make fun of you for being this height. Yet when you are 2 inches taller, people treat you with respect and women throw themselves at you? Kris says on 16/Nov/09
Finnian says:
5'6 1/2" to 5'7 1/2": Below Average. May feel short, especially around tall guys. Still taller than many women. May start getting hard to find clothes that fit. Still a good height as you can drive small cars, save money by eating less, etc.
Haha. People this tall don't have to drive smaller cars or eat significantly less. You're a buffoon. Don says on 16/Nov/09
nothing you can do then dave. stop whining and get your legs on the operating table. best of luck though. Simpleton says on 16/Nov/09
Man, I think Vibram needs to be in a 4 walled padded room. What a wackjob.
LOL, no chance anything you say is true. Most chicks think a legit 5-9 looks 5-10-5-11. Again, you must be a guy at 5-3. Dave says on 16/Nov/09
Vibram i am the same mate women want to chat to me at bars and are all friendly but the moment i stand up they are off like a shot. It is likely your height as well that is putting them off as it is the same for me and no it is not a convenient excuse like a number of people claim women are hugely height prejudiced. I hope there is a 'cure' in the future and we can shift the balance of power in our favour. Aleks says on 16/Nov/09
I wonder if Vibram could maybe, maybe have a point.
I think I'm good looking, but almost never, do I get stares from women I could be blind, who knows, but my best friend is six feet, and it seems, everytime we encountered girls when we were together, they were always after him. Always. Aleks says on 16/Nov/09
I'm 5'7" and I never had any troubles finding clothes. My pants are size 32 and my t-shirts are medium size. Don says on 16/Nov/09
Vibram,
Then stop the whining and wear your lifts when you go out ala sly stallone. You are so insecure about your height that you whine at strangers on the internet 24/7 but at the same time you don't have the stones to wear them because you are afraid of living in false reality. You sound like an indecisive little girl going through puberty.
If that experience was so worthwhile, why just stop at only one occasion? No one outside of your potential first girlfriend in your life will follow you home so what's the big deal about anyone caring about your 'false reality'?
If you are so convinced height is important in getting a girl, use your lifts to get you over six feet and get some girl to go on a few initial dates with you. During the latter dates, the attraction goes beyond physicality and the ball's in your court to win her over with your personality, your career path, etc. A guy could look like model but when he's an absolute jerk with no career, no girl is ever going to want to continue the relationship. But you wouldn't know this...it's like an uncharted territory so appreciate the lesson you are getting.
Even if she finds out that you are only really 176 cm, odds are that she won't leave you if you have already won her over through various other means. She might if she is absolutely shallow but you can probably gauge that from few 1-2 dates so you can probably pull the plug early on. God, I feel like I am lecturing a junior high kid about getting his first girlfriend lol. But you know where I am getting at. Understand boy? I expect a thank you letter to Don on your next post. Maddy says on 16/Nov/09
Hello Vibram, I believe you, that you are treated differently when wearing your lifts etc. I know that by myself, I am 5'3 ft barefoot. When I wear flats people tend to oversee me or don't listen to what I say. When I wear high heels and reach 5'5 ft, I feel more respected by people. I don't know if this is just my imagination. Maybe I feel more confident when wearing heels and that is why people respect myself better? Maybe you look more confident and positive, too, when you walk in your lifts? And this helps you attract people? Just an idea. Klem says on 16/Nov/09
Zwaard you are same height as me, around 5-11.5 evening. yeah it suck being so close to 6 foot but don't quite make it. But its pretty ok height overall, I agree 6-1 would be perfect for me too. Not too tall but you can look pretty big when solid build. James says on 16/Nov/09
Vibram growing up did you get enough sleep or eat the right kind of diet to help reach your full potential height? Mike says on 16/Nov/09
Vibram says on 16/Nov/09
You wouldn't believe how differently I was treated. A few young women came up to
me and started talking and flicking their hair, complete female strangers trying to make small talk. This had never happened to me at 5ft9.25. The amount of smiles from females I got as well. I don't even think I'm good looking.
People were much less insolent and ignorant. I got called "Sir" numerous times, which I hardly ever get at 5ft9.3. The only times I get called Sir at 5ft9.3 are when being served in an Indian Restaurant. Female shop cashiers would talk to you more, they would give more "hello's". The other non-verbal clues as well were interesting. For instance I'd be ordering a coffee in a takeaway, some females would be behind me in the que (obviously noticing my height). After I finished my order and went and sat down, a few of these females would make an effort to sit near me, when there was plenty of other tables free in the cafe they could have gone to. This is in almost empty cafes. Again this has never happened to me at 5ft9.3. Stuff like that must really boost a tall guys confidence towards getting women, at least females initiate their interest a lot more, a hell of a lot more.
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This is quite amusing. Vibram, did you ever stop to think it might all be in your head? Do you actually beleive that the average woman is so shallow that 2.5 inches extra in height will make all the difference for her?
You need to snap back to reality mate. Noel6 says on 16/Nov/09
I was measured at 5'9" when I entered the US Army. 20 years later when I retired I was measured at 5'7 1/2. I have a nephew that is 5'3" and is a little sensitive about being short but has a great physique. I asked him whould he give up his body shape and build for 5 + more inches in height. He said H..L NO! He's ok with his height now. Vibram says on 16/Nov/09
I don't know why I ended up at just 5ft9.3 (176cm) but my slightly older brother 6ft2 (or 6ft1.75; 187cm). 11cm is a huge difference to brothers born of the same parents 1.5 years apart. In my late teens (aged 19), other brothers in my college would rarely be +/- 5cm apart. I might not know it, but this could be why I'm overly height conscious. I just feel i should be 6ft at least from genetics. My dad was apparently my height (5ft9.5 [he left when I was 3] ) and my mum was 5ft7 peak. It sucks being the "lil bruv". I remember once when I was about 12.5 and my brother 14, he tried to pick me up by the ankle and dangle me upside down. He was trying to replicate that scene in the film Commando where "Matrix" (Arnold Schwarzenegger) picks up the character "Sully" and hangs him over a cliff edge.
The only brothers with the same mum & dad I can remember where there's a huge difference in height are footballers Bobby and Jack Charlton. Bobby was 173cm and slightly older Jack 191cm. Vibram says on 16/Nov/09
Do any of you remember my lifts experiment about 9 months ago? Well, to recap, I wore 1.75" lifts and 1.75" boots, so I was 5ft9.3 barefoot + 1.75 lifts + 1.75" boot soles = roughly 6ft1. This made me appear I'd be about 5ft11.75 - 6ft barefoot; i.e. borderline tall for male.
You wouldn't believe how differently I was treated. A few young women came up to
me and started talking and flicking their hair, complete female strangers trying to make small talk. This had never happened to me at 5ft9.25. The amount of smiles from females I got as well. I don't even think I'm good looking.
People were much less insolent and ignorant. I got called "Sir" numerous times, which I hardly ever get at 5ft9.3. The only times I get called Sir at 5ft9.3 are when being served in an Indian Restaurant. Female shop cashiers would talk to you more, they would give more "hello's". The other non-verbal clues as well were interesting. For instance I'd be ordering a coffee in a takeaway, some females would be behind me in the que (obviously noticing my height). After I finished my order and went and sat down, a few of these females would make an effort to sit near me, when there was plenty of other tables free in the cafe they could have gone to. This is in almost empty cafes. Again this has never happened to me at 5ft9.3. Stuff like that must really boost a tall guys confidence towards getting women, at least females initiate their interest a lot more, a hell of a lot more.
So don't tell me sh*it about confidence.
I really can't go back to wearing lifts cos I feel though I'm living a false reality. Then you have that horrible feeling of taking your boots off being close to 6ft1 all day suddenly truncated to 5ft9. It might help get a female, but she's gonna know eventually... when I'm barefoot around the house. G.G says on 16/Nov/09
Vibram what the hell are you talking about? Im 186cm 15 yr old and all the juniors think im 190cm - 192cm. I SWEAR TO GOD, your full of trash.
and where do you get all that statistics? Your height-obsessed peanut brain of yours? most definitely! Your a small, small, tiny, tiny little boy. Get out of your mom's basement and open your door.
PS: Chris brown is only 183cm? i cannot believe that but all the evidence are pointing to him being 183cm? Im confused :S avr says on 16/Nov/09
I do agree with Vibram in the sense that most guys' ideal height would start at 180 cm. and up, and since 5'10 is pretty close it would fit too, but there is no way 5'9 is short, not tall either, but never short, it's all about confidence. Alex5 says on 15/Nov/09
Just posting an unrelated note here. I'm not sure what the disparity is when you measure yourself by sticking a tape measure from the ground up, flat, not tilting it to one side or another. When I personally do this, 6'0" comes up to my lip, and I'm not stretching all that much. And yet when I've tried on previous occasions to measure my height by marking a straight line from my head, I get quite a short measurement. I don't know what it is at the moment, but it's quite a bit less than makes sense on the "how to measure a celebrity's height" page of 4.5" from the top of the head to the eyes etc. I don't see how the measurements can be so off. I still do come near the top of many door frames, so I'm not misjudging this. Simpleton says on 15/Nov/09
Jake says on 15/Nov/09
I think short guys have no chance with girls. Here is why... Short girls like tall guys just like tall guys feeling attracted to short girls. Opposites attract! short girls are more insecure and feel confident this way. Yet, tall girls also like tall guys because women never want their men to be shorter than them.
Actually the hottest chicks I see are usually with short guys. Go figure
And this Vibram guy has to be a parody. Either that or hes really a 5-3 dude. Simpleton says on 15/Nov/09
Actually women tend to guess much higher than your actual height. Is Vibram getting paid money to be wrong all the time? Anonymous says on 15/Nov/09
"I think short guys have no chance with girls"
Have you never left the house? I see short guys with hot girls all the time. Zwaard says on 15/Nov/09
Okay let me clarify I don't feel short but I feel right on the verge of being short. Ideally I would want to be 6'1.. wow that would be great. Zwaard says on 15/Nov/09
I'm kinda depressed about my height. When I was 14 I had a huge growth spurt and grew to 5'9-5'10, I was one of the tallest people in my class. I thought I was going to be really tall but completely stopped growing when I was 16. Now I'm 19 and 6'0.2 in the morning and 5'11.6 at night, which isn't too bad but I'm afraid of losing height when I'm a bit older. Is it strange to have stopped growing that young? (I checked and I haven't grown even a little bit since then) AKK says on 15/Nov/09
Women(especially those below 5'5) are probably overall worse at height judgement in part because so many of them are wearing heels/platforms/wedges a large majority of the time, so they forget to add a couple inches to the guy to account for the footwear, or if they're not wearing their height-enhancement that day, they think he's even bigger than he was the last time they saw him(when they were wearing the H-E shoes). The secondary reason would be that they're usually shorter than the guy they're observing, so if he's above a certain percentage taller(like a head or more? Given that height is about 6 heads, +17-20%) than she is, she will probably wildly over-estimate the height difference. The tertiary reason would be all the insecure little ****s who inflate their heights by 2 or more inches. I'm 5'8(and some change) barefoot, and the only time I ever claim 5'9" is if I add "in my shoes". duncan says on 15/Nov/09
Agreed Jed. At my high school, we have a very popular University of Dayton basketball recruit who is 6'6. He is even listed as 6'6 on recruiting websites. The first time I saw him, as a freshman last year, I thought "Wow he has to be 6'6". I guess I'm kind of good at guessing height!
Anyways, my 5'1 senior sister knows him. The other day, we were talking about him after he officially signed with Dayton and she said, "He is so tall, he's like 6'9". I can't say I was surprised she said that, her being so short. And I know with people so tall it is hard to tell how tall they really are, but to be off by 3 inches? That's some extreme overjudging, but its not too uncommon.
Even my sister's friend, who is a little shorter than me so probably around 5'7, thought I was much taller than I really am. I'm nearly 5'8 in the morning (just turned 15 and have more to grow) and probably 5'7.5 overall, but when she asked my height and I told her, she thought I said 5'10. She believed me too, but I had to tell her "oh no I don't even think I'm 5'8".
Just goes to show that most people think you are taller than you really are. And some think you are WAY taller than you really are.
And Vibram, if you read this, my sister's friend I was talking about is downright gorgeous and a pretty nice person and her boyfriend is a legitimate 5'10. So stop getting down on your height dude because average (5'9-5'10 isn't small) guys with decent personalities can still get great girls. Finnian says on 15/Nov/09
@James
I think over 6'3" starts to look "too tall."
My new male height chart:
4'7 1/2 and below: Legal Dwarf. The height of children. May not be able to drive at all and has a hard time reaching anything.
4'8" to 4'10": Upper Legal Dwarf. The height of 10 and 11 year old children. May require pedal extenders to drive.
4'10" 1/2 to 5'0 1/2": Extremely short. Probably the shortest in a room of adults. Everyday life starts to be difficult. People may mistake men this height for kids.
5'1" to 5'3 1/2": Very short. Shorter than most adults, men and women. People may make height comments.
5'4" to 5'6":Short. Around the height of women, and shorter than most guys. Most everyday things aren't hard because women are this height. Most women think this height is too short. May need tailoring of clothes.
5'6 1/2" to 5'7 1/2": Below Average. May feel short, especially around tall guys. Still taller than many women. May start getting hard to find clothes that fit. Still a good height as you can drive small cars, save money by eating less, etc.
5'8" to 5'10": Average. Half of guys are taller, half are shorter. Taller than most girls.
5'10 1/2 to 6'0" Above Average. Taller than almost all girls and 2/3 or 3/4 of guys. A good height range with few disadvantages.
6'0 1/2" to 6'2 1/2": Tall. Taller than most guys. May start to have difficulties with cars, public transportation. Starts to stick out slightly. Probably the ideal height range for men.
6'3" to 6'5 1/2": Very Tall. Usually the tallest person around. May go a day or more without seeing someone taller. Have to be careful about cars, plane rides are hell, Bumps head often. Strangers may ask your height. May require "Big & Tall" clothes.
6'6" to 6'8" 1/2": Extremely tall. May not see anyone taller for weeks. Everyday life is difficult and you can drive few cars. Strangers may comment/point/ask your height frequently. Probably needs "Big & Tall" clothes and probably has a hard time with shoes. May have to duck through doorways.
6'9" to 6'11 1/2": Abnormally tall. Have to duck through standard doorways and always watch your head. Probably have to drive an SUV/truck. Good luck finding clothes or shoes anywhere. Probably the tallest person most people have seen.
7'0" and up: Insanely tall. May have gigantism/ growth hormone issues. Everyday life is almost impossible, everything must be custom made. Almost everyone comments/ asks questions. May not see anyone taller than them their entire life. Jake says on 15/Nov/09
Here is the height statistics for Turkey (for both men and women)
Turkey – Ankara 174.0 cm (5' 8.5") 158.9 cm (5' 2.5") 18-59 Measured 2004–2006
Turkey – Ankara 176.1 cm (5' 9.3") 162.0 cm (5' 3.7") 18-29 Measured 2004–2006
Turkey – Edirne 173.7 cm (5' 8.4") 161.4 cm (5' 3.5") 17 Measured 2001
Turkey – İzmir 181.0 cm (5' 11.3") 48 on average Measured 2009
Average adult Turkish men is 5'9" (175cm) in most of the statistics in the country general. Yet, Turks think they are almost short. So 5'9" doesn't seem to satisfy any nation as an average. However,the new generation feels more confident about height. One single thing that draws attention is that in Izmir, Turkish third largest city with a population over 2 million people, height average is dramatically higher with 181 cm for males. (5'11") That's because many Balkan Turks live there. So race makes significant changes. Lozzer says on 15/Nov/09
Joshua. I stopped growing as far as I know before I was 16. I'm 16 now and haven't seen any massive growth spurts recently. :S Future says on 15/Nov/09
They expect that in the year 2100 the average height is almost 10 centimeters more than nowadays. So male average height could be somewhere near 185 cm!! That's hell insane :0 Balkan says on 15/Nov/09
Firstly, a nation is one thing and a country's citizens is another. Yugoslavs as a nation, as you'd see here, are a group of people scattered throughout its former region who choose that particular identity. For the majority of the people, we need to state examples such as: Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, Montenegrins etc., but more so on regional grounds than self-designation. So, South Slavs rather than Yugoslavs might be more appropriate and less offensive, or better still, regions within, namely Herzegovina which is best known for its tall people. But now I will put the boot in: Serbs on the whole are not tall people, no they are not. Having once lived in Belgrade myself, most of the people as tall as myself all came from somehwere near me - I am from Dubrovnik and most 6'6-ers were from places closer to my region. In Vojvodina, they are mostly small, in Central Serbia they are mostly small - only down in Sandžak to people begin to get taller as the imaginary frontiers are quickly forgotten that you see that in Southern Bosnia and Montenegro, the height increases more and more, and this is the centre of it. Yes there are ethnic Serbs and who I agree, do contribute to this huge height average, because Serbs are not all living in Serbia itself. Bosnian Serbs from the western areas of Bosnia, and pockets of regions once home to Croatian Serbs (mainly Lika, like Tesla), are very tall - no question - but the millions of Serbs from Serbia make up the bulk, and sadly friends - they are not tall on average. Belgrade is cosmopolitan, so are Nis and Novi Sad for their sizes but to a lesser degree. It means that people from far away get to live in these places - so you cannot assume that Mr.Big in Novi Sad really does come from Novi Sad unless you know him personally. The term Dinaric Alps is not political, as it does not conform to a country. In honesty, this makes it good for the topic, but then it is slightly inaccurate. Even the Dinaric regions vary in height and some of them are quite small too - such as Northern Adriatic Croatia and Slovenia, and north-western Bosnian regions caught witihin. Also, Western Serbia in places like Kopaonik - part of those Alps but not home to tall people as such. So, looking at this, we can say that South-Slavs, or Yugoslavs if anyone still insists from certain areas are tall, not all of them - Macedonians, definitely not, and neither are Bulgarians who still qualify as a South Slavic nation. Then there is one more aspect: Albanians - they Dinaric Albanians are not Slavs of any kind but they too are tall, and the Dinaric Alps do cover Northern Albania anyhow. Of course, to state that Albanians are tall might also be ridiculous as central and southern Albanians and even those of Kosovo and Presevo Province are on the small side. So, the information is accurate when it states that 185cm is average for the Dinaric Alps, and applies to both the Slavic peoples and the Albanian groups. 186 cm says on 15/Nov/09
How tall are Croatians on average?176cm,this means i was right when i said that Croatias and Serbs are not tall as a whole nation.For younger generations it is like 180 cm on average.This is a very low result for Croatia,because it was thought to be among the tallest countries and yet it seems it,s among the shortest in Europe. I wouldn not be surprised if it was also the case with Serbia.Actually I think i have a proof for this,just need to find the link... 186 cm says on 15/Nov/09
How tall are Croatians on average?176cm,this means i was right when i said that Croatias and Serbs are not tall as a whole nation.For younger generations it is like 180 cm on average. Derek says on 15/Nov/09
ZAQ says on 14/Nov/09
"women dont randomly approach guys first, its the man who does, you have to be starting conversations to actually get somewhere"
Don't underestimate women these days. Many are getting tired of waiting and approach first. James says on 15/Nov/09
One of my friends who is 6ft6 said the other day that "For pitys sake if short guys are so insecure abou thier height why don't they stand on thier tip toes?" Don't know what to make of his comment? Don says on 15/Nov/09
Vibram,
When a guy of average or below average height has nothing else going for him, I can see how easy it can be to blame his height for his failures in life. I've never really thought about it that way.
I don't blame you at all though. You've probably been rejected by so many girls in your life that sometimes you wonder to yourself why you even exist in the first place. So blaming height, while it may sound repulsive to us normal human beings, plays as a defense mechanism on your part and helps you cope with all your daily failures. You inherently believe that height is the reason for all your shortcomings and you feel better about yourself through this way since there are a lot of guys your height around you to share your troubles with.
I think you should be thankful that you are 176 cm, not 183 cm because otherwise there would really be no reason for your existence. Thanks for opening my eyes. l0ck n l0ad says on 15/Nov/09
jed, I remember the same thing in high school. When I turned 16 I had no idea how tall I am, just that I was the tallest guy in my year or 2nd tallest. So I asked people how tall am I, and a few classmates told me 'oh you are like 6'3"', so I used to tell people I'm 6'3" but then a week later when I got measured I was really 6'1.5". l0ck n l0ad says on 15/Nov/09
jed, I remember the same thing in high school. When I turned 16 Jacob says on 15/Nov/09
@ Jed
completely agree with you. A few years ago, when i was younger and smaller, a girl once said to me 'wow you've grown a lot the past couple of years, you're getting tall'. I replied 'so how tall do you think i am?'. She said 'like, tall, you're at least 177 cm!'
There are two weird things about this, first being that at that time i was measured 182 cm, secondly that girl thought she was 175 but in fact she was 177 or 178 herself.
It's funny how some people have no clue on height.. jed says on 15/Nov/09
People in general cannot judge height. Especially women. When I was 5'11 everyone insisted I was 6', when I was 6' it was either 6'1 or 6'2, and now that I'm 6'1 it's normally 6'3.
A small guy at school who is 5'7ish, described me as very tall, and when I said 'mate there are a fair few guys taller than me like X' (who happens to be 6'3) he said 'really? I thought you were taller than him.' The other 6'1/6'2 guys often think they are taller than they are. So most 6'2 guys think they are 6'3 (usually 6'3.5 for some reason) and also say they wish they were '6'1' which in their terms would mean 6' even. Most of the guys taller than me (there aren't that many tbh) before I started growing again and was 6' used to think I was at least 6'1 or 6'2, then most of the guys 5'10/5'11 thought I was 6'1 (because they try and say they are 6')
Girls too, normally think I'm taller than I am. Only one girl has ever said I was shorter than I stated. Basically I was 6'0.75 morning height (ish) and had been out all day (it was 1am ish) so I was likely 6' even. She for some reason thinks she is a little taller than she is, probably around 5'7 and when I said 'i'm 6'1' just because I couldn't be bothered with the whole 'I'm 6' and a half' and then she said 'no you're not my mum's that height.'
Point is, everyone overjudges height. So I can't take most people seriously on here. Jake says on 15/Nov/09
I think short guys have no chance with girls. Here is why... Short girls like tall guys just like tall guys feeling attracted to short girls. Opposites attract! short girls are more insecure and feel confident this way. Yet, tall girls also like tall guys because women never want their men to be shorter than them. kev says on 15/Nov/09
saw a guy in the libary the other week who looked about 6'10 in his foot wear. he must have been 6'9 6'8 3/4 bare foot. people like that kinda make you feel small lol kev says on 15/Nov/09
talking about height is addictive. uk guy says on 15/Nov/09
Vibram get a girlfriend mate stop worrying about height i don't think about it 24/7 if you are 5"9 your average height you speak like a 5"5 guy which i think you are really i find height interesting but i'm not obsessed with it. Vibram says on 15/Nov/09
O.K haters. This is what I reckon is so TRUE and why 5ft9 men are 'slightly feeling nerved' more and more.
• 90% of single women want guys ideally to fall between 180cm - 196cm. Lets not deny it. That's 5ft11 to 6ft5 in inches btw.
• At 178cm / 5ft10 a guy has a good chance as passing for 180cm; with good posture, good footwear, people aren't going to notice a 2cm difference, so 5ft10 fits into the accepted sexually attractive range, albeit the lower range, he's 'in' nevertheless.
• A 175cm, 176cm (5ft9 - 5ft9.25) guy doesn't pass for 180cm, he is a chunk below the ideal range, even with good posture he can only pass as 178cm max. This is a massive blow to his sexual attractiveness because women look at height and a mans outline first.
• Women are pretty useless at guessing heights and tend to guess lower. When I was at university in 1997/8 (I was 5ft8 and 130lbs skinny at 19) one women, 5ft4, said I was a "short arse shrimp" and told people "he's only about 5ft5...ewww" in a dismissive way. She thought I was about her height, lol the stupid assumptive b*itch. 5ft8, 5ft9 men do tend to get 'treated' as if they were shorter. That's why i think so many of them, including me, are unstable. You have to built very big (170lbs+) to be accepted as a regular guy if your 5ft8 and 5ft9.
• Where i live 6ft1 - 6ft2 tends to be a very very common height in the bars and nightclubs and other socially activities. Now, a 5ft9 man is going to be 'dwarfed' , 'dominated' call it what you like, when standing next to men those heights . A 5ft10 and 5ft11 man doesn't look 'dwarfed' just "slightly shorter" next to 6ft1, 6ft2 men in females eyes. I think dwarfing starts if you are 4 - 5 inches lesser.
• 6ft3+, 6ft4+ guys are still quite rare - only about 5% in night life, but 6ft1, 6ft2 guys a numerous: I'd say they make up 35 - 40% easily at night life. Tropico says on 15/Nov/09
Clay, I'm 6ft and I'm considered tall/pretty tall (a word my teacher used on me the other day, after he realised how tall my 6ft3/6ft4 was up close - and then made a comment on me) amongst my peers. Although I'm an ectomorph and have a pretty athletic build too, which I feel makes me appear taller tbh. Other than that, your post is correct. Fawn says on 14/Nov/09
JAK, I would go with the man that made me feel the best!
I am female, 5'10", long blonde curly hair, blue eyes, very pale skin, very feminine. My bone structure is large, I weigh about 170. I wear a size 11 shoe. I have a small upper body with small breasts with all my weight being in my lower body. My legs are very long with a 35" inseam. I work out a lot so I am very fit. I wear a lot of makeup and wear modern, stylish clothes.
I have never had trouble attracting men and have always been in a relationship. I was a late bloomer and didnt start dating until I was 18 but since then I have pretty much remained in relationships.
I dont like a very tall man because they scare me. I do think they look very nice. But I feel too vulnerable next to them. Most of the men I have dated have been around 6'. Taller than that would be OK but not much taller. I think the max I could go would be 6'3". ZAQ says on 14/Nov/09
JAK
def the 5'10 guy
women dont randomly approach guys first, its the man who does, you have to be starting conversations to actually get somewhere
the 6'2 guy could beat the 5'10 guy into getting women easily if he's more funnier, confident and outspoken Phil says on 14/Nov/09
Vibram says on 12/Nov/09
Lets face it, at 5ft9 you occasionally get stick for being "short" but not 5ft10, it just stops. It's amazing, its the psychological line, the schizophrenic line. Why?
Are 5ft10, 5ft11 and 6ft the best 'social' heights? I think so. People aren't afraid / cautious of you like they would be a 6ft2, 6ft3+ guy and you aren't an adolescent boy sized 5ft7, 5ft8 either.
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I've always thought 5'10"-6'0" were the most comfortable and versatile heights.
@Finnian: I'd choose 5'10" (for the above reasons). Kristen says on 14/Nov/09
I think Vibram is just making things up to have a laugh at our expense. My second theory is that some of these things really do happen to him, but he's 5'3 instead of 5'9. Mike says on 14/Nov/09
@Don,
Great response to Dave, I totally agree. Mike says on 14/Nov/09
JAK says on 14/Nov/09
So lets say they are two men that a woman is checking out:
One is 6'2 and plain looking, a bit quiet
The other is 5'10 and good looking, is outspoken and confident
Do some people here believe that she will pick the 6'2 man just because he is 4 inches taller?
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Yes they do, because many of the people posting on here are so fixated on height that they beleive it is the source of all their problems, and they have convinced themselves that everything would be great if they were just a few inches taller. uk guy says on 14/Nov/09
when it comes to dating and relationships i don't think height is that important i think the perfect height for attracting girls is about 5"10-6"1 i think its more personality than anything and although looks help a bit that's what i have found from relationships in the past. James says on 14/Nov/09
What height do you think starts to look too tall for a guy? Ben says on 14/Nov/09
I am 6' 1" (185/186 cm) and I saw a quite small woman. She lolt me 'hmmm, you are nice and that you are 6' 2" tall', I told her 'yeah...about that'. She told that she loves guys of this height but she was just about 5' 3". i just wanna say that it's funny if very small girls loves tall men. I think that from 6'1" - 6'2" guys looks tall... Denis says on 14/Nov/09
JAK says on 14/Nov/09
So lets say they are two men that a woman is checking out:
One is 6'2 and plain looking, a bit quiet
The other is 5'10 and good looking, is outspoken and confident
Do some people here believe that she will pick the 6'2 man just because he is 4 inches taller?
I don't think so.
I'm 6f1-6ft3 (most likely 6ft2 when I was measured as 1m89 as well) and I've quite often lost against those 5ft10 guys when they looked a lot better than me, height is not everything l0ck n l0ad says on 14/Nov/09
JAK, I believe she will go for the 5'10" good looking, outspoken and confident guy in *most* situations. Just standing there looking tall (even if the 6'2 guy is good looking) won't always make the cut. I am 6'2+ myself so I'm talking from experience :P
P.S. You didn't specify how tall the girl is but assuming she is the same height or no taller than the 5'10" guy then most likely she'll go for him. uk guy says on 14/Nov/09
5"9 is not a bad height sure you may feel short next 6"1 + guys but even if you feel a bit short you still look solidly average when i was 5"9 i looked in a mirror in a shopping mall and i looked very average and didn't look short i think you feel short becuase of eye levels and poor posture so 5"9 is a pretty decent height to be. JAK says on 14/Nov/09
So lets say they are two men that a woman is checking out:
One is 6'2 and plain looking, a bit quiet
The other is 5'10 and good looking, is outspoken and confident
Do some people here believe that she will pick the 6'2 man just because he is 4 inches taller? AKK says on 14/Nov/09
Chris Brown at 183? Yeah, I can believe that. Rihanna doesn't really look that much smaller than him, and she's what, 175? I might even believe he's 180 out of the monster Timberland boots most rappers wear. Anonymous says on 14/Nov/09
G.G, well anyway he's tall and I see him as 6'1'' at least. Don says on 14/Nov/09
Dave, nobody in here is ‘delusional’ to say that height does not play a major factor in attracting females. It has been since the birth of men and always will be. But you are also being delusional when you say that height is the only major factor in attraction and is the ‘be all and end all’ factor in relationships.
At 171 cm, you are definitely below average but you don’t deviate terribly off what is considered an average height. If you are that concerned about height, maybe you should put 1 inch insoles inside your dress shoes to put you around 176 cm, which puts you a lot closer to the mean. But more importantly bring other factors to the table to make up for your lack of physicality.
You’ve still got a pool of decent sized 5’3 to 5’4 girls that you are clearly taller than (heels or not) and you shouldn’t feel uncomfortable at all standing next to them. Yes, some shallow ones still want a six footer, but a lot also don’t really care, as long as you are taller. To deny this, if I may borrow your patented term would be ‘delusional.’
If you still keep getting rejected by short women, well then maybe height isn’t the only thing you are lacking. But it sure is convenient to make it as an excuse though right? Mitch says on 14/Nov/09
Vibram, your insecurity is disturbing. wood says on 14/Nov/09
Anyone who says 5'8-5'10 isn't average height has their perspective mixed up. 6' + is tall. Obviously the more you clear it the 'taller' you will be in the 'tall' classification.
Anything over 6'3 and you will be known as that 'tall guy' unless you are in a basketball team or hang around with very tall people.
Add 1-2 inches if you are Dutch. frank says on 14/Nov/09
height does kinda matter to women. I met a girl who i'm now dating who from my photo thought I was kinda short like 5ft8 or 5ft 7, she was suprised to mee me that I'm 6ft 1 and quite well built and therefore on a basic level I was more attractive to her.Obviously though personality is the main thing! Matt says on 14/Nov/09
If I could choose a height, I'd pick the unspectacular 5'11.5-6'1" range. Being taller would come in handy for basketball, but other than that, it would probably be wasted. In the range I listed, a person never comes across as awkwardly tall and IMO, clothes tend to fit them better and there is probably never a time when they are too big for something (i.e. fitting comfortably in a smaller car). It also seems easier to pack on aesthetically pleasing muscle mass/proportions compared to very tall guys (think Brad Pitt or Matthew McConaughey even though both aren't quite in that range). G.G says on 14/Nov/09
@ Finnian, i would choose 3 metres, unstoppable at basketball. ;) G.G says on 14/Nov/09
When my friend went to his Brisbane Concert, she had a VIP pass and got take a few photos with chris brown... and damn, he towers over her. My friend, she is like 170cm or something not sure, a lot shorter than me. But when Chris Brown was standing next to 188cm DeRay Davis and 189cm Will Smith at the 2008 Grammys, he goes just above to their eyebrows...??? What!!
@ Oleg, he aint young, he's 21, don't think he can grow anymore at 21. The Dutchguy says on 14/Nov/09
@Finnian
I think...about 6'5.5, 6'4 now Grégory Lacourt says on 14/Nov/09
Vibram does have point. My best buddy is 5-9 - 1.75m and feels short, he's really nervous about it, he never wear Adidas Gazelles or low trainers like rest of us. He has to have the biggest Timberlands on 24/7. My friends that are 5-10 don't have problems with their height. We all 23/24 aged. I live in Brest France where we maybe a bit petite than the English. It is normal be 1.76m men and 1.64m for women in whole of France. 186 cm says on 14/Nov/09
Vibram, Freddie Ljungberg is 176 cm tall.Does he have any problems with girls?I wouldn't say so... Oleg says on 14/Nov/09
G.G, yea man I can believe everyone, but I don't. I always have my own opinion. And yea I see many Vibram haters but I repeat this for the second time, I'm not kind of Vibram's protector or so, I just said that some of his points are right. That's my opinion, but it doesn't mean that I also blame my height in all my misfortunes. Trust me man I take my height easy.
PS: I also think think CB is taller than 6ft. He's young and it seems he's still growing so yea he can be about 6ft2. save says on 14/Nov/09
i'm 178cm or 5'10 and i've been feeling on the short side of average lately :S .. i used to feel on the tall side.. i'm 21 by the way. anyone else feel the same? Clay says on 14/Nov/09
You can be 5'8'' and look average in certain footwear. Never will anything under 5'8 look anything but short. 5'5/5'6 of course comes of as very short for a grown man. 5'9-5'10 comes of as respectable and average. 5'11-6'0 the high end of average but not ''tall'', no way. 6'1 is where some people would think ''That guy is pretty tall''. 6'2 and up is undoubtedly tall. G.G says on 14/Nov/09
@ Oleg, sure man, you can believe Vibram along with y'all minority group who believe him on this site. You ain't gon find the truth with Vibram, look at all the Vibram haters posting every day saying his comments of full of crap?
@ Vibram, its funny how you have time posting your bull over the site, shouldn't you be out on the streets, yelling it out too?
Peace 2 up 2 down
PS: wow, can't believe Chris Brown is only 183cm. Thought he was at least 188cm. He looks tall standing next to my friend ... 0_0 ... Finnian says on 13/Nov/09
Hey everyone, if you could choose your height, what height would you choose?
I'd choose 5'11"(I'm 6'0" now.)
5'9" is average. Not everyone knows what the average height is. Some people might be used to being around tall men, think the average is higher, and call 5'9" men short. ZAQ says on 13/Nov/09
lol vibram
keep those comments coming your on a roll man Cobra says on 13/Nov/09
I meet a ton of <5ft9 guys everyday. Even a lot of guys who are <5f7.
At my university I can be in a class with maybe 20 males and the average can be 5ft8... it`s not uncommon.
Vibram is an interesting guy to chat with. How tall are you exactly, you said 176 cm, morning, evening or inbetween?
btw there are a lot of factors who can "build" or "decrease" height... don`t wanna be offensive, but for example, if you have a nerd face @ 5ft9, you are short, if you look more masculin maybe with a good build, you won`t get seen as short. height is tricky. Dave says on 13/Nov/09
whether 5'9" is short or not i think the point vibram is trying to make is that women discriminate based on height and it is a major factor in sexual attractiveness for women, as i have said before to deny otherwise is delusional or an inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality - end of. I know some people on this board may know some women who date short men but it is of no consolation for the thousands of others who do not get any, remember there are only a small number of women who do this also so the odds are stacked highly against us. Tall men have it made if a tall man fails in life it is because of something he is doing. And yes im sure there are exceptions. Joshua says on 13/Nov/09
I'm tired of seeing height charts like this:
13: 5'5
13.5: 5'5.5
14: 5'6
14.5: 5'6.25
15: 5'6.75
15.5: 5'7.25
16: 5'8
16.5 5'8.25
17: 5'8.5
18: 5'8.5
What pathetic genes anyone with height charts like this must have, to just stop growing at 16, how stupid. Joshua says on 13/Nov/09
Chris L - what kind of bullcrap height chart is that? You grew 5 inches from 8 to 9 and then random growths of 1, 2, and 3 inches (in mixed up order instead of less growth as you get older!) every year after that putting you at 6'3 at 15? Your height chart was annoying to read because it just looks screwed up and illegitimate. Chris says on 13/Nov/09
Im 5 foot 10 vibram....or your magical height. Thats my evening height and i dont measure below it...and i still feel short the majority of places i go. Its like how i imagine 5 foot 11 to be a magical height where i wont feel short anymore. You aspire to the next best thinking itll make eveything right. Being 5 foot 10 would make things in now way better for you Tropico says on 13/Nov/09
Michael Jackson was around 5'9", and people always thought he was a solid height. I know a guy who is 5'8" and he doesn't look short at all. It might be his thin frame, but I estimated him at 5'10"-5'11" before I came up close to him. Your eye line height can make you think you're shorter than you really look I feel. People think 5'11" even looks tall, two inches below that wouldn't suddenly look short! Anonymous says on 13/Nov/09
Vibram I laughed so hard at your last comment that water came out of my nose. You are a measly one inch below the average height for British men, people aren't going to be laughing behind your back when they meet you for god sake. I remember about 2 months back you said that you often hear girls laughing at you when you walk by the bus-stop. All of that is ridiculous, nobody is ever going to notice your height. You're well within the average range. All this crap about people pointing and laughing is all in your head. Either that or they really are pointing and laughing but it's not at your height, maybe you're just really ugly and you want something to blame it on.
And you act as though if you were 2 cm taller all of this would stop. Like all of a sudden as soon as you are dead on the 5'10 mark you get heaps of respect, but if you are a tiny bit under you are reviled by society.
Your comments really are hilarious man. Perhaps you should post a picture of you so we can see if you actually are an average looking man or whether you're just really ugly and that's why you're always turned down. SV says on 13/Nov/09
Vibram go see a therapist. You clearly have some issues that need working out. aramx says on 13/Nov/09
Yeah I would say more like 4,10" under or 6'10" plus for a guy might get stares from the public. If your 7'9" plus or 3'9" under then yes you will get stares everywhere! Kris says on 13/Nov/09
Vibram. Just stop it! You sound so f****** pathetic I just want to pull my hair out. You are 5'9.5", AVERAGE height, and you are letting your sniveling little height obsession and ludicrous assumptions about people get in the way of what could be a better life!
My brother-in-law is your height, actually, just 5'9". I've NEVER considered him short, small, boy-sized, etc. etc. This is because he is self-confident, dresses well, doesn't say stupid things (AHEM...), and more importantly: DOES NOT GIVE A F*** ABOUT HEIGHT.
Keep in mind I'm 6'2" and I don't see 5'9" guy as short. Not in a million years. But it sounds like you have found a way to make 5'9.5" short. So good job. AKK says on 13/Nov/09
James: I think it's something like when a girl gets above a certain height(say 5'7"), she has to be slightly less picky about the height of the guy, so as long as she's not using his head as a nose/chin rest, it's probably "good enough"(after accounting for finances, whether he makes her laugh, his overall "look", etc.), whereas for small(anywhere below 5'2") girls, they either pick somebody a little bigger(just enough that they feel "protected"), or a lot bigger(could stem from insecurity and a need for somebody to project their own voices/opinions through), but seldom the same height. 5'4" to 5'6", they generally go with "about my height, maybe a little bigger" and it feels right to them. That's just my observations from people-watching. Biggest disparaties I've seen in real life was just a couple days ago. Like in my post on the 11th. Sub-5' girl with a 6' guy. For me at least, if the girl is anywhere below my chin, I'd feel incredibly awkward walking beside her(which was why I stopped walking beside my mother past the age of 15. Just felt so out of place). That and apparently, my proprioception sense(one's ability to tell where each body part is at relative to the "core") is shot, which means a careless arm swing could well result in "battery" on a smaller girl(to say nothing of how easily she could slip into my "blind spots" and be in even greater danger from my arms). Oleg says on 13/Nov/09
Don, nobody said I got it overly sensitive. I meant that it was just odd, but of course I know I'm not short, never. 5'10'' is a solid average in sooo many countries, so is in my. No talking about some Asian countries or African where it can be.. actually I don't know but quite shorter, maybe about 5'5''-5'7''. And I don't think I'm done growing, I'm only 17 so I hope I'll hit 5'11 or more. josh says on 13/Nov/09
vibram has clearly smoked too much weed and is paranoid and delusional. He's not worth anyone's time. Don says on 13/Nov/09
aramx,
Of course, that's why I said Vibram's "point" about 5'7-9 guys getting suspicious and wary stares in the public is utterly garbage. It is a range that doesn't deviate too much from the average. Now I would somewhat understand if a guy is let's say 6'7 and up or 5'3 and below. Don says on 13/Nov/09
The biggest joke of all is that Vibram posts like he fully knows women's perception towards men even though he has probably never gotten past maybe 1-2 initial dates, if that, with a girl in his life. Maybe countless hours of sitting at home watching MTV has really screwed his mind, I dunno. And no Vibram, one night stands with prostitutes/drunk girls or flings with girls at Thailand don't count. Once again, no offense to anyone.
@Oleg
I wouldn't get overly sensitive about couple of short comments you got from your 4 feet teacher or one of your classmates. I am around 5'9.5/5'10 and I have been estimated at 5'6 by some tiny girl until I got close to her, completely towered her and only then did she admit "oh maybe I was wrong." Bottom line is some women, especially short ones are horrible at judging men's heights because they obviously get towered over by virtually everyone and they really have no perception of what certain height differences are supposed to look like. Vibram's theory however is that every 5'9 and lower guy will get completely humiliated/shunned in public and that couldn't be further from the truth obviously. AKK says on 13/Nov/09
Brian: Lots of jump-rope, and if you wanna do weights, try to find a way to do them suspended upside-down(probably best at a 45 degree angle, rather than straight upside-down). That'll help stretch your back. Oleg says on 13/Nov/09
G.G, I don't believe "all the rubbish, Vibram is saying". Man read my post again, I wrote that feeling short at 186cm is just stupid. And I did not say that Vibram totally right, but he got some points. I repeat not everything but the truth is present The Dutchguy says on 13/Nov/09
Well guys, i dont know about you, aparantly where you live women make a big deal out of heights, but..i really dont know any who do?..so..that might be the difference..and Aleks..''Women can't judge about heights, they usually end up with a dick'' isnt that the whole thing that has been bothering Vibram in the first place?..he wants women to tell him that he aint short, not some random guy on the internet James says on 13/Nov/09
When I say about tall women liking below average height men if you look at how tall the men Princess Diana dated it might be kinda evident but I am not sure? Or Mick Jaggers wife for example. Could just be coincedental? James says on 13/Nov/09
I am not sure if its a myth but I heard that tall women get paired with short men? This might be evident since my uncle is 5'8 (he's not really that short for a man just a bit below average) and his wife is 5'11. The Horse of FUNK says on 13/Nov/09
Yes, Vibram, the whole world is picking on you. Women carry virtual ruler sticks implanted into their eyeballs and rigidly measure and cast out the guys who are 1cm shy of the magical and fabled 5'10" height. You are diminutive, Vibram, you small, small man. Clothing looks goofy on you, like a fat clown. You shall never breed, Vibram, you shall never get a supermodel girlfriend and it's all because you're 5'9". YOU SHALL NOT BREED! lol
I hope this message gets posted because after every message update I'm getting sick and tired of reading the SAME wimpy garbage from Vibram. This is getting ridiculous. Every god freakin' day it's like Vibram needs 10 people on here to make him feel better. HTFU (harden the f*** up). So you weren't dealt an excellent hand in the physical game of life. It's how you play it, ever thought of that?
According to Vibram a 180cm man has no problem getting the ladies and is ideal. But GASP, if he's 4 CENTIMETERS shorter they all point, stare, and laugh at him like a freak. GTFO, Vibram, I'm not buying this act of your's anymore. I think you've been manipulating the people of this website for a while now. You've clearly got some retarded agenda.
Or maybe you look like Shrek. The Truth says on 13/Nov/09
I hope no one takes what Vibram says seriously, he is out of his mind. All of his evidence is anecdotal. 5-9 says on 13/Nov/09
Just kill yourself Vibram for being 1 lousy inch below your perceived socially acceptable height. You treat 5ft10 as some milestone, a shining beacon-- the glowing ring in Stargate that you step through into a different world where people will love you and not give you sh*t. That's all there is left for you at 32? now there's no hope your never going to be mentally stable. I thought you were angst teen going through a bad phase, you act like one, am shocked man your 30s. Your seized in adolescence man. Other guys can tell this--- women can tell --- this thats why they laugh at you not your height. Your nuts man. Totally nuts. The most nutty vain insecure guy I have come across online and I have been online since dial up days in 1999 -- 10 YEARS.
I bet you Vibram, my unstable friend, hasn't been with a lady in many years????? Jake says on 13/Nov/09
I think male height average in the western world is 5'10.5"(178cm) So 5'9" and 5'9.5" is short. 186 cm says on 13/Nov/09
Aleks says on 12/Nov/09
Yes,Alex,that's exactly my point. Oleg says on 13/Nov/09
You know guys you all attack Vibram for his attitude about height, you all say that this bordelrline is illusion and maybe it really is BUT! I had a very curious experience half a year ago. My class prepared a performance to a graduation and our teacher was a director, she wanted us to stand in a row with a girl. Before telling further I say that there's no girl in my class who is taller than me, the tallest was 5ft8. And I'm 5ft10 and in my class 4 of 11 guys are taller than me, one is 6ft6, second is 6ft2.5, third is 6ft and the last is 5ft11. Other guys shorter than me, 5ft8-5ft9.5 range. So I'm solid average. So our teacher, she's about 4ft10, a foot shorter than me!!! She said to me "You're short! I don't know what girl should stand next to you". And one girl(she's about 5ft6) said "ye, he's little!". That day I was in 1.2 inch basketball shoes so I was almost the same as that 5ft11 guy of my class. And even she said "He's the same height as me" - he meant that he's not short lol! But everybody ignored and didn't pay attention on his claim. I was shocked, and really pissed off cause I'm taller than 6 guys in my class and why me?? Girls then started laughing but in 3-4inch heels only one girl is taller than me, she appears about 5ft11.5 and other only aprroaching 5ft8-5ft9.5 but I'm still taller than everyone of them(there were 12 girls in my class). That day I was first and the only time been called short. But I still can't get what happened then and have no clever explanation of why I was picked as short? For me it's 8th world's wonder. G.G says on 13/Nov/09
@ kev, ur full of trash talk... i don't believe one word you say ... you will make me believe you if you post the images of yourself. Until then, your a liar and a half.
@ Oleg, Im a fool? If you believe all the rubbish, Vibram is saying about girls picking guys over a main factor of height, man, you are a fool. Nearly everyone posting on this site aint gon believe Vibram and his rubbish talk.
@ Vibram, i repeat again... your insecurity of your own height is so dominating in your life...wow if i was ur height in life, I wont give a damn and just love life. Im just curious at times when it comes to height and height growth charts cuz im 15 and 186cm and curious at what my final adult height would be. Vibram, please don't waste your life posting comments filled with hypocrisy on this site. Just accept your height and rest your comments.
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Peace Vibram says on 12/Nov/09
c-mo I also think overall fashion is very important at our 176cm height. I avoid baggy combat trousers and long coats because those things make you look shorter. I find it's very difficult to look good. Vibram says on 12/Nov/09
c-mo, yes 176cm is a very tricky height for a grown white man. It just falls short of 178cm and its agonizing. You feel if you were 178cm (5ft10) all problems will cease and you wont feel short or be called short, intimidated as much or embarrassed. At 5ft9 you can just tell if you meet say two guys that are 6ft (like say starting on a new football team), they consider you kinda short.... or they will say that. You hear them laughing behind your back. It's kind of disrespectful. I think 5ft9 looks medium if your big (bodybuilder physique) but small if your slim and no more than medium t-shirt size.
Footwear is paramount for 5ft9 range guys. Just this week I received some new winter boots: Caterpillar Certus boots. With them on I'm 5ft11 flat and I noticed I felt more confident than when I'm standing 5ft10.3 in my old shoes (Merrell Chameleon ISO olive green). 0.7 (3/4) of an inch doesn't seem much but it makes a world of difference psychologically. I don't think I could ever go back to wearing footwear that gives less than 1", only in my own company and family I would.
Most regular guys under 45 seem 6ft - 6ft1 with shoes / boots on around my neck of the woods, so I know barefoot they are in that 5ft10.25 - 5ft11.5 range. I just know 178-179cm (all ages up to 65) & 180cm (youth) are the averages for white men in Derbyshire, England. The 177cm National Average is misleading. aramx says on 12/Nov/09
Well, Don if you were let's say 7'8" people would probably be staring at you at alot! Of course most people would not attract much attention in public from their height unless they were significantly below or above average in height. Aleks says on 12/Nov/09
The Dutchguy says on 12/Nov/09
*Sigh* you know, i wont even try anymore, you guys are só focussed on bringing others/youselfs down..just, with Vibram's drama in the back of my head, i asked a couple of girls in my class what they liked in a man: funny,smart,wide shouldered, lean, nice smile..no one, 6 girls, no one said: he has to be tall, its really just all in your brain, the average women would also reject a random good looking guy if he came up to her and asked her ''don't i know you from somewhere,babe?''
Not trying to sound rude, but since when are women reliable when it comes to those things?
A lot of women always end up with complete jerks, yet, do you think they would say they're looking for a guy who's gonna cheat on them, beat them? Of course not.
What a woman says and what a woman does are two complete different things. Ted says on 12/Nov/09
actually non gold digger women usually dont want warriors, the best fighter, they generally prefer a friendly guy who gives them a good smile and has a sense of humour. So often height doesn't really come into it that much.
Vibram, smile get a sense of humour, not be a downer to everyone u meet. And develop an attitude, be confident, calm and relaxed and girls will be attracted to that. Dave says on 12/Nov/09
the Duthguy said that hes asked women some questions and none of them said he has to be tall, the chances are mate that they would just expect him to be and the other things they wanted would just be bonuses.
Women discriminate against males based on height it applies to around 90% of them, it cannot be denied to say otherwise is a delusion. Dave says on 12/Nov/09
Don i agree with you there a lot of men go to Thailand and boast of how many women 'wanted' them but the truth is they just want out of Thailand period and they have got it into their heads that every white man from the west has bucket loads of cash. The amount of 65 year old men there going out with 18 year olds should be a sign to most men that they do not care who it is with just so long as they are with them they stand a chance of getting out.
The same goes for a number of other countries also namely Nigeria, it amazes me the stories you will get from men when they come back from business trips boasting of how easy it is to get women and they genuinely believe that the women were with them because they were so irresistable.
quasimodo and the elephant man would get women if they went to these countries and thats no disrespect to the women of these places its just a blunt fact im afraid to say.
Thailand could also be dangerous as a huge proportion of them are transgenders and carrying STD's. Kristen says on 12/Nov/09
Aleks is right. You can't compare a 6'7 woman to a 5'8-5'9 man. A 6'7 woman is probably taller than 99.99% of all women on the planet. lol A 5'8-5'9 man is close to the average height in the US, Canada and Europe. There's just no comparison, not even close.
Vibram, NOBODY looks at 5'9 men in a "suspicious" or "wary" way unless he's carrying a bloody knife in a supermarket. You once used the word, fishy, to describe men at this height too. Do you even know what those three words mean? BTW, woman is singular and women is plural. "I saw a short woman standing by a group of tall women." You used "women" instead of "woman" many times in one post. I wouldn't even say this if English was your SECOND language.
I hope this one gets posted. lol Vibram says on 12/Nov/09
Lets face it, at 5ft9 you occasionally get stick for being "short" but not 5ft10, it just stops. It's amazing, its the psychological line, the schizophrenic line. Why?
Are 5ft10, 5ft11 and 6ft the best 'social' heights? I think so. People aren't afraid / cautious of you like they would be a 6ft2, 6ft3+ guy and you aren't an adolescent boy sized 5ft7, 5ft8 either.
Also i think men start to be "dwarfed", or "owned" as the youth call it, when your 4" and more inches below another man. Because 6ft1, 6ft2 are still quite common heights (I would say 7/8 out of 22 young men are reaching this), a 5ft9 man looks dwarf next to those heights. The 5ft11 man doesn't. The 5ft11 man looks small next to 6ft3+, but 6ft3 is still quite rare - only about 1 in 25 men are this or over. The 5ft10 range and 5ft11 men don't look owned next to 6ft1 and 6ft2 men, but 5ft9 men do.
The 5ft9 man standing at a bar, then a 6ft1, 6ft2 guy stands next to him. women notice and give the 5ft9 man a dirty look, like "your boy sized" "he's waaaay taller". It does look comical & weak. The girls pick up on it and their brain feels pity for 5ft9 because women find dominance in men attractive (physical / social). Now a 5ft10 range man doesn't look so dominated next to 6ft1, 6ft2 men. He;s let off the hook. Anonymous says on 12/Nov/09
Rob, is 175-176cm a fair 5-9, and is 157cm a fair 5'2? Brian says on 12/Nov/09
You know what, no matter what anyone says, Vibram will still be convinced that his problems with women are strictly due to his height. You can give him as many examples as you want of under 5'10"s who are super popular with women and tall guys who have trouble with them, but he just does not want to listen and admit his lack of overall appeal to girls.
Now, for those who are sick of this debate, I have some questions, the first of which I have asked several times and has been ignored many times:
1) I am starting wrestling in a few weeks and am thinking of doing some weight lifting. Now, the whole "Lifting weights stunts growth" is a myth, right? I could see that myth forming because building up muscle can make one appear stockier and shorter than they actually are, the ones who do see results from weight lifting are naturally shorter and heavier, and steroid use involved in weightlifting can stunt growth. I'm pretty sure light weightlifting like curls does not affect height, but is there anyone here who is sure that benches and squats that aren't super hardcore don't either? I just wanted to know that for future reference, but I probably won't do much heavy lifting anyway since I'm trying to lose weight, which brings me to my next question.
2) I'm hoping to lose a few pounds and get down to the 215 weight class. I'm 6'3", could get a 6'4" listing if measured in shoes. Now, I found the stats of some of the top wrestlers in the country, and their BMIS are much greater than mine. But I want a first-hand opinion: Would 6'3" be outstandingly tall for a 189-215 wrestler? I know there is a stereotype that wrestling is meant for stockier boys, but I know plenty of tall wrestlers, so I just wanted to know.
3) I've been jogging several miles each day for this past week, and have noticed that in addition to my legs being increbily sore afterward, I lose slightly more height by night time- about 1/8"-1/4". Is this normal for new joggers? Will this reverse as my legs grow stronger and less stiff and I have less fat weighing my frame down, or are my legs permanately compressing? Chris says on 12/Nov/09
Vibram have you tried grow taller for idiots or other programs like it. from what ur sayin theyd be worth trying for you dmeyer says on 12/Nov/09
rob can you add cobie smulders from how i met you mother seems 5 ft 8 to 5 ft 9 on the show James says on 12/Nov/09
Vibram how tall were your parents? Don says on 12/Nov/09
Vibram,
Has it occurred to you that 99% of people probably don't give a damn about your height or how you look alike when you step outside? You are of an unspectacular height and you are probably not much to look at anyways..trust me when I say this, people probably don't stop in the middle of street to look at you and give you that “wary” or “suspicious” glance.
No wonder you can't get any girls to commit to a long term relationship with you even when you are in your 30s. Girls probably think of you as some ultra self conscious freak who has too low of a self esteem to make anything out of life. I'd be surprised if you got to that stage in a relationship with a girl though. You probably don't have the stones to ask out a girl anyways for whatever petty little things you are worried about about your height, appearance, etc. Even when a girl is smiling at you (which probably doesn’t occur much anyways), you probably twist it around and interpret it as a girl belittling you.
Yeah I am sure those girls in Thailand were a lot easier to get to go out with you and you felt a lot more like a man in that area. But guess what? Girls in those regions throw themselves to every white man they can their hands on as it’s their ticket out of the country and chance at a better life. No offense intended for anyone in that area but I don’t think too many people will severely disagree with me on this point.
What do you do for a living btw? You seem to have too much time on your hands whining about 2 cm your are missing and attempting to drag all the below average-to-short guys’ social lives down the toilet. AKK says on 12/Nov/09
Well, I failed to draw the girl who was 1cm shorter than me, but from what I've heard, her boyfriend is actually smaller than her. So kudos to her. Now, where's my 5'10" lady hiding at...? :P
In all honesty, if your wallet is full of bills, add that to your height, and you'll be fine. Money > Height a lot of the time. Although maybe that only applies to the gold-digging sorts. But hell, look at Bernie Ecclestone(Formula 1 GP founder-guy). I think he's like 165cm with a 175cm (soon to be ex?) wife who's a former model. FarOutPeace\\\'09 says on 12/Nov/09
Average height is "the perfect height".
You won't get stick for being short, because you are not.
You won't get stick for being tall, because you are not.
At average, you get the best of both...just in the middle...PERFECT!
Remember, you are always going to be smaller than someone or something.
A 5' 9" guy may be called "short" next to a 6' 0" guy. But you don't hear a 6' 0" guy get called "tall" next to a 5' 9" guy even though 6' 0" generally is considered tall, it's always the other way round. c-mo says on 12/Nov/09
vibram i know exactly what you mean ....i am exactly your height and i have to say that our height is a really tricky one ...there are days where i feel really short and also days where i feel solid average ....i think that footwear and posture is very important at our height because at 176cm if you have bad posture and thin shoes then you look below average but with good posture and good shoes (but no lifts) you look average ....our height isnt thaaaaaaat bad actually :) i also would love to be 6 feet tall but i am also happy that i am not 5ft5 , 5ft6 or something ...we are above 5ft7 we are ok dude ...bur like i said i know what you mean ....but vibram i would like to know how tall you are when you wake The Dutchguy says on 12/Nov/09
*Sigh* you know, i wont even try anymore, you guys are só focussed on bringing others/youselfs down..just, with Vibram's drama in the back of my head, i asked a couple of girls in my class what they liked in a man: funny,smart,wide shouldered, lean, nice smile..no one, 6 girls, no one said: he has to be tall, its really just all in your brain, the average women would also reject a random good looking guy if he came up to her and asked her ''don't i know you from somewhere,babe?'' Oleg says on 12/Nov/09
G.G, if you think you're short being 186cm then not Vibram, but you are fool. Vibram by the way told lots of truth. Maybe not everything but most. I understand him and respect his opinion and care about his height. kev says on 12/Nov/09
g.g
ye your right spurt at 11 was early , it was strange. first person in my grade year 6 in the uk that is. my mate had his at 12.5 so not much later than 11. my growth has never been predictable. i have 2 pics on the internet 1 when i was 16 n half at my school prom at 5, 8.5. and one at age 21 at about 6'2. but then what is 6'2 can someone give me a celeb pic to look at that is 6'2ish.
my growth pattern is like this really. 11-----12-16---22 Mike says on 12/Nov/09
Vibram, just shutup! I'm tired of reading your dillusional comments. G.G says on 12/Nov/09
Vibram, your so insecure about your height... Height isnt everything, fool.
Look here, i'm 15 and 186cm and i reckon im short... most of my friends are few inches taller than me and do i care about that... i dont think so, curious at times, but i don't ponder on the internet expressing ideas and views of height like what you do for a living.
Open your door and see reality. Aleks says on 11/Nov/09
The Dutchguy says on 11/Nov/09
Vibram, have you tried to look at at it the other way around, would you want to date a 6'7 female?
Bad example. Women reject some men because they're not six feet, but only a few inches taller than them. Say, 5'8" to 5'4" for example.
A 6'7" woman for a man would be about the same as a 4'8" man for a woman. Nobody talked about midgets being rejected by women. Vibram says on 11/Nov/09
The Dutchguy says on 11/Nov/09
Vibram, have you tried to look at at it the other way around, would you want to date a 6'7 female? ofcourse, i understand why you are so annoyed by women rejecting you because of your height, but..try to look at it from a different perspective
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For god sake man, a 5ft9.25 (my height) man is not the equivalent of a 6ft7 women. In terms of gender relativity, a 5ft9 range man It's the equivalent of a 5ft4 range women. I's not too short statistically for a man, but when you combine the "heel factor" women include in their crazy mate selection strategies / sexual pickings, it might be equivalent to a 5ft2 (short) woman.
Now, In terms of desirability towards the opposite sex, a 6ft7 women is the equivalent to a 5ft1 man, not a 5ft9 man. I work this out because....
If 6ft2 is the ideal height for a man, and 5ft6 ideal for a women, then a 5ft9 man would be like the equivalent of a 5ft11 women; "slightly too tall" / too 'manly' dominant looking / not desirable for a lot of men, likewise the 5ft9 man is "slightly too short" / lacks dominant 'manly' appeal / not desirable for a lot of women.
As a guide to how I evaluated this:
Women tend to add 3" to their real height and want their man 2" taller at least added on top that, Ideally 7 or 8" taller. Basically 5" inches taller is the lowest they would prefer. So a 5ft4 women thinks she's 5ft7 (in her head with heels; she can't accept shes psychologically 5ft4), so wants a man 5ft9 minimum (lowest she'd accept), but ideally 6ft.
That would make 5ft3 women perfectly suited to 5ft9 man many of us think? No, more often than not when a women is 5ft3 and below she wants a giant, and I'm talking 9" + 12"+ inches taller. It's not rare for a 5ft3 women to want a 6ft3 guy, at least not look below 6ft. Me and James (another UK guy on here) have spotted such pairings quite often. Certainly more common than seeing a 5ft3 women paired with a 5ft7 man. I don't know why this is? One logical theory is perhaps if a short women (below 5ft3) has both a short mother and father (or short father/ male bloodline), by choosing a very tall man it "levels" any offspring out, reducing their chances of being short and improving their chances of being medium or tall. For male offspring this is especially important. Vibram says on 11/Nov/09
I just don't think 5ft9.25 / 176cm; my height, should be deemed a short, not good enough height, but it is, it's a height that draws suspicion and wary looks and attitudes from others. Read about Gerd Müller - Click Here a German footballer in the 1970s, who was probably the most lethal striker of all time. Well, he was 176cm as well and derided as the "small man" and "stumpy". He didn't like being called this himself as he said he was average height (who wouldn't?). He was stocky, sloped shouldered but didn't look small at all to me. I know he's German and they are taller than Brits on avg. but 5ft9.25 was perfectly normal for a German man in the 70s (the average was 5ft9.8 in Germany at that time). Anyway, It made him more determined to score. It reminds me of Michael Owen, he's 5ft8 (173cm) but always has been known as the "little guy", "Little Michael Owen scores!" etc. Is 5ft8 really that little ? I don't think it is. Robbie Keane is 176cm and he gets small comments occasionally I might add.
In literature, I've never ever read about a 178cm (5ft10) man being called "small" short" and other remarks regarding lack of height. It happens a lot to 175cm, 176cm men though, yet disappears once a man hits 178cm, maybe 177cm. Strange. It's like the 5ft9 range man just missed the cut and he has to consolidate he might be 'treated' like the 5ft6 & 5ft7 little men. That's what us 5ft9 men have to fear on a weekly basis. Dave says on 11/Nov/09
Myth ****s i feel the same as well mate i feel like i am an average height 5'11-6' guy in a short mans body, it is made worse by the fact that my 'short' mates are all 6'0 when out on nights out with them i dont stand a f--king chance. Chris L says on 11/Nov/09
Here's my height chart:
8-4'10
9-5'3
10-5'5
11-5'6
12-5'8
13-5'11
14-6'1
15-6'3 (present day)
Weight: muscular 215
...and yet my rather less handsome 5'6 friend runs circles around me girl-wise.
If you know how to talk to women everything else becomes secondary Jacob says on 11/Nov/09
@L.K
I'm even surprised you got this tall! According to your measurements you were 5'6" (167-8) when being 11 years old, which is unusually tall for that age ... and then you keep growing but less and less and then at age 16 you get another inch and a half growth spurt ... very irregular growth. Mythbastards says on 11/Nov/09
Well I'm 5 ft 7.5 and it really bothers me sometimes because there are days when you realize that you see only quite tall people around you and it pisses me off. I know that I'm not tall, but I've kept in my mind that I'm average height human comparising to female and male population, not only male.
It's really not so easy to be under average height, specially if you are a man. Sometimes it just feels that I'm big guy in shorter man's body. John says on 11/Nov/09
James I have noticed that as well. Interesting... 186 cm says on 11/Nov/09
One more thing.Let's stop complaining.Girls want real men,warriors,testosterone etc.It's not that much about looks,it's about treating them the right way,This means:they should be allowed to talk and express their ideas but we should be the ones to act.I strongly believe in this.WHEN YOU APPROACH A GIRL DoN'T THINK ABOUT HOW YOU LOOK,THINK ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO ... HER.GOOD LOOKS WON't hurt,but that's not gonna help you take a girl home.I am 187 out of bed and about 185 at night ,and I'm not sure weather it helped me or not,probably yes,but certainly not as much as some of you would think.Groetjes Jovan James says on 11/Nov/09
Guys maybe its all in my head but do you find that men are more likely to physically strike a very tall women like 5ft11 or 6ft? Maybe men think shorter women are more prone to getting injured and the feel the need to protect them more? I don't know! JAK says on 11/Nov/09
Vibram, are you saying that if you wore lifts to make you 5'11 the girls will start throwing themselves at you? James says on 11/Nov/09
Vibram just be confident in yourself and then girls might be more comftable approaching you more or hit the gym and pound the weights or whatever floats your boat in general. I mean you wan't to make the very best of your life while your still here right? AKK says on 11/Nov/09
Tall Elle is TALL. I was gonna guess the guy in the video is like 5'6, but given that he's got 10 inch feet(mine are 9.5), he's probably closer to my height of 5'9". That is a HUGE difference there. Now you know how Rey Mysterio feels around the Big Show(well, without the sexual whatever)
Amazon Detri's pretty amazing too. 128cm legs. Wonder if that's inseam or outseam. 50 inches! Egads. If she wore 10 inch platforms, you could park a 5' girl between her legs!
I do notice that lately, it seems like there's a lot more taller(5'7 to 6') teenage boys around than before, but overall, I'd guess that the vast majority of guys here in Singapore still average 5'6". I still think it's weird to see a guy whose shoulder is just about my chin, with a girlfriend whose chin is at MY shoulder. That's easily a foot or more of height difference. |
