xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 11/Feb/12
@SAK..Yes u r right..No doubt..even taller people exaggerate their height(loads of 6ft 5 guyz claim 6ft 6-7).If a guy at 6ft 4 doesn't feel tall enough..then he seriously has some mental issues..btw that's not a reason to include it in the ideal range.
Coming back to my question I m asking them on what basis have they written it..that's my question..whats so special about this 6ft 4-6 range which the 5t 11-6ft 3 range cannot fulfill..like i have given full reasons in this as well as my other posts so as to y i think 5ft 11-6ft 3 is an ideal height range.People here have appreciated my view...similarly i just want to know the same from those people who think such big heights can be included in the ideal range.
@others Those who are 6ft 3+ and they don't feel tall enough or are not satisfied..and others who think the same..i request them not to reply to my query..!!

jake, 1.82 m- 1.83 m- 1.84 m says on 10/Feb/12
I agree Larc, 6ft- 6ft4 is best range to fall in, with the median of those heights (6ft 2, 1.88 m) being what I consider ideal.

Iam 6 3 says on 10/Feb/12
6 foot to 6 foot 4 are the best heights. As soon as you hit 6 foot 5 you have shock value.

Gemma Louise says on 10/Feb/12
My sister used to live in Germany and she says the average woman is like 6ft 7in? Is this anywhere near true? I'm 5'7/8 and I already feel massive enough!

J.J. says on 10/Feb/12
Do you guys know that at least half of women(5'4.25" & under) think anything above 5'10" is tall?

So I strongly believe once you fall within 5'10.25"-6'4.2" you really are in the ideal range & substantially taller than 99% of women

One can argue that 5'9.5" should be the bare minimum to feel ideal!

So I think anyone in between 5'9.5" - 6'4.2" (50%tile-99%tile) shouldn't worry about their height at all.
As well as 5'4.25"-5'10.25" females Don't Worry at all because in my opinion non of these ranges are short in any shape or form

tom234 says on 10/Feb/12
@Everyone Why do u think that 6ft 4-6in heights can be included in the ideal range of 5ft 11-6ft 3???

dunno for me the absolute perfect height is 6'4 or 193cm in the evening. you are a full 6'4 and you are only too tall to those under 5'10. you are solid solid tall.

Shaun says on 10/Feb/12
Wow so you lose 2 cm just in the morning? I just scrape over 6'2 in the morning JJ, not as high as 189, and I'm about 6'1.25" at worst. So almost an inch yeah. Any days I'm rushed on my feet though and get up early I'm unlikely to have time to measure myself or even think about height! How did you manage that? But its interesting that there could be a variation in that. But yes I can recall sometimes I've done a lot of walking in the morning around town or along the cliff tops down the coast and come back lunch time having walked a good few miles and felt near my lowest from being knackered but haven't measured myself to see. The next time I go into Cardiff shopping I'll measure myself when I come back lunchtime. Usually on those days I get up at around 7 am and leave about 8:30. I'll allow a good 6 hours before measuring and see.

I think maybe Henrik and James there are quite a lot of skinny blonde endomorph celebs like Beckham. Pitt, Paul Walker and Ewan Mcgregor which might make James think that.

SAK says on 10/Feb/12
@Cindy, got it, and it makes sense what your saying,

SAK says on 10/Feb/12
xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 10/Feb/12
@Everyone Why do u think that 6ft 4-6in heights can be included in the ideal range of 5ft 11-6ft 3???
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Because everyone is different, and see different heights as ideal. Majority might prefer, 6ft1,6ft2, etc,, But I know a few guys who don't feel tall enough even @ those heights.

BigSean says on 10/Feb/12
Rob what would you consider someones actual true height,
(a)somebody standing straight and relaxed shoulders? (natural posture) OR
(b)somebody standing straight wit military posture,stretching their body up as far as they can. (forced posture). I find there is 1inch plus in the difference.

James says on 10/Feb/12
i'd just describe 6'5.5 or 6'6 as the upper end of very tall.

would u not agree? I think 6'7.5 like peter crouch height is the start of extreme tall.


shaun that 6'5.5-6'6 basektball player on take me out did not give much shock factor in terms of height did he? i expected 6'5-6'6 range too look taller although possibly he would look bigger in person than he did on TV?

Triplescrew says on 10/Feb/12
@Shaun

If 34 inch pants are long for a 6'2" guy I must have super long legs for a 5'11" guy...

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 10/Feb/12
@Larc 6ft 2in I sort of agree with u that if somebody is 6ft 4.5-5in at his lowest is still in the very tall category..But these heights are quiet big heights..like avi says..shock values..so i don't think they can be included in the ideal range..they are excellent heights..my teacher at 6ft 4 looks huge as always..stands out from the normal crowd like a tree..!!
Talking about a guy who is like above 6ft 5.5 at his lowest..what do u have to say..??
I think this height surpasses the 'very tall' category and it clearly goes a bit towards the extreme side...6ft 7+ is definitely freakish..no second thoughts.

@Everyone Why do u think that 6ft 4-6in heights can be included in the ideal range of 5ft 11-6ft 3???

Mathew says on 10/Feb/12
Tommy says on 9/Feb/12
It's surprising that 5'10 - 6'1 was seen as the overall ideal. Huh. I always hear women go on about liking tall guys, and they really seem to flock to them. Perhaps the women in that study didn't want to appear to have as high standards, or couldn't estimate the heights properly. Maybe it's just the novelty factor that makes them talk about tall guys.

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I saw a poll online once about women and their preference for height, and 5'10" - 6'3" was the best range with 6'1" winning overall. Each inch below 5'10" and above 6'3" there was a significant fall off.

Shaun says on 10/Feb/12
There's a difference though Rob between somebody who gets up at 6 am and is standing up all day at noon and somebody who gets up at 10-11am and is mostly sitting down surely? After 6 hours on your feet you'd likely be near your lowest at noon but hardly if you've been up an hour and sitting down.

Shaun says on 10/Feb/12
Thanks Pete. I had a bit of stomach fat back then though, its gone now! Yeah James as I'm getting slimmer I am starting to look split meso and endo but I've always considered myself a typical meso.

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I'm definitely looking slimmer now, took this last night out of curiosity. Spot the Tyler Durden jacket LOL! I wear 34 inch leg jeans which Rob thinks is quite long for a 6'1.5" guy. The thinner you are you know the longer you really look in the mirror. Its not that easy to see how I look from that mirror shot but you should be able to see by the length of my legs and torso in relation to the floor I'm quite tall. Ideally of course we'd all have stadio photographic "evidence" to show what we are. I think if I was like 3 or 4 inches taller on a slim frame I'd be starting to look too tall I think. Still there are some 6'4"-6'5" guys who look great but there's not too many men who look good at that height. Its definitely a sort of height most people would find quite impressive and should feel very big indeed if you are that height.

J.J. says on 10/Feb/12
@Shaun I shrink from 189.4cm(after 9-10hrs sleep) first thing in the morning to 187.4cm by lunch time 1pm. I hold on to 187.4cm for quite a long time until about 10:30pm when I still measure 187.2cm on good times & 187.014/6'1.625" at my worse. So basically I shrink 0.8" on a regular basis & 0.9" at my worst. No matter how overworked I am I never measure under 187cm.

How tall are u & by how much do u shrink?

Henrik says on 10/Feb/12
James says on 9/Feb/12
u look like you have a meso or endormorphic build which is not that common since many fair haired guys such as yourself tend too be hardgainers



Doubt that it has any connection to hair color. Northern and Eastern Europeans tend to have body frames that are more robust when compared to many other populations, even though Dolph Lundgren is extreme in all senses and should never be used as a typical example.

Dmeyer says on 10/Feb/12
I âgree Rob normal low is 181.5cm but weight lifting aérobic or overstanding on m'y feet CAN knock 2-3mm extra

Brazilian Fellow 5ft11.25in says on 10/Feb/12
@CK

exactly. I also think 6'1"-6'2" is ideal, but compared to my 5'11", its just "a little bit better", and not a huge advantage. In this case, other things such as a nice looking face, good job, thick wallet, among others, play a much bigger role. Once you are taller than at least 90% of women no matter which heels they wear, your pretty safe, height-wise.

Henrik says on 10/Feb/12
Tommy says on 10/Feb/12
I did know that taller people lose more height. Hmm. What do you think: a guy is 6'2 at his prime, another guy's 6'4 at his prime--which will be taller by the time they're in their 70s, on average? I know taller people lose more, but I wonder if it would be enough to go below what the 6'2 guy would be.

I think 6'4 is probably at the higher end of ideal actually. I would say, yes, the ideal range starts at 6'. Also, where would you guys say really tall starts? I would put it around 6'4.



I doubt that 6'2" would be tall enough to have back problems and shrink more than the average. Then again, Schwarzenegger is said to have lost about 2" at the age of 60.

A legitimate 6'4" (and not one of those 6'2" guys who claim 6'4") is a really massive height, in my opinion. I would say that it's "closer related" to 6'6" than 6'2"-6'3". But the "giant range" is usually considered to start at 6'5".

Still, being 6'4" is of course better than being 5'7" and there are some proportionate 6'4" types that I wouldn't mind switching body with, like Jared Padalecki or why not a peak Christopher Reeve and Dolph Lundgren. 6'1"-6'3" is probably more ideal in the end because it simply won't "stand out" and it won't be seen as "goofy" at times.

Tommy says on 10/Feb/12
Lillo, I measured my doorframes and they go from 6'3 to 6'7. 6'5 is the average.

CK says on 10/Feb/12
Tommy says on 9/Feb/12
Maybe it's just the novelty factor that makes them talk about tall guys.
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@Tommy: I think it's this ^ Plus, women do want tall guys but usually that means tall without being too tall with 6'1" being the epitome of this. And that's why most men seem to think 6'1" is the perfect height, for emphasis, it's tall without being too tall. In the past, I've said here that anything between 5'10" and 6'2" (at your lowest) is an ideal height for a man IMO and based on that study, I wasn't too far off, was I? I know a lot of guys here tend to downplay heights of 5'10", 5'11", and 6'0" here, but really those are still great heights to be for a man. For all the guys here: If you are between 5'10" and 6'2", you should be content with your height and stop bitching.

Tommy says on 10/Feb/12
I did know that taller people lose more height. Hmm. What do you think: a guy is 6'2 at his prime, another guy's 6'4 at his prime--which will be taller by the time they're in their 70s, on average? I know taller people lose more, but I wonder if it would be enough to go below what the 6'2 guy would be.

I think 6'4 is probably at the higher end of ideal actually. I would say, yes, the ideal range starts at 6'. Also, where would you guys say really tall starts? I would put it around 6'4.

John says on 10/Feb/12
Henrik good post, shows that probably between 6 foot and 6 foot 2 is ideal.

Pete Procrastinator says on 9/Feb/12
@Shaun That's some size of physique you've got! Plenty of bench presses and pec dec flyes.

Cindy says on 9/Feb/12
@SAK-

No, I totally get what you are saying. Dont worry, that's not how I meant it:)
I meant that, if the average difference between guys and girls is 5-6inches, then I know so many girls at school and uni who've dated/are dating guys only a few inches taller than them, and they are all about 5'4"-5'5".
I was saying that being a below average guy is not so bad, even if most women prefer taller guys. Do you get what I mean now?:)

kurp182.5 says on 9/Feb/12
@ Lillo Thomas says on 9/Feb/12
I don't know about standard doors being 6-6 . All doors in my house are 80 inches 6-8 tall.

In my experience, ordinary door frames range from about 6'3 to 6'8. Most of the ones I've come across are around 6'5 - 6'6. Wonder if anyone has data on door frame heights, might google it..

Shaun says on 9/Feb/12
Only a few mm between lunch and last thing at night? That's odd as I've measured myself at around 186 before bed. Do you think weight lifting in the evening has anything to do with it Rob? I think I lose about 2 cm in a day. Is that abnormal?

Larc-186.7cm-188.6cm says on 9/Feb/12
6'5 is already looking a bit too tall, but it's still normal.
Freakish would be over 6'7 in my opinion.

At the end 6'0-6'4 is the best height range for a male, with 5'11 and 6'5 still very good.

And taller people shrink much more when they get older, that's a fact.

klem says on 9/Feb/12
Tommy says on 9/Feb/12
Women do seem to have a strong preference for taller men. Can you blame us for wanting to be taller? I think the ideal height is 6'4ish. You can be tall without looking freakish. It also means you'll still be pretty tall when you get older and shrink


Most women idealize heights 6-0 to 6-2. Real, not self reported lol. 6-4 woud be pushing it with women, but of course better than being under 5-11.
Being over 180 and under 190 with good looks and personality and solid job/money is somewhat perfect.

avi says on 9/Feb/12
@Tommy says on 9/Feb/12
Women do seem to have a strong preference for taller men. Can you blame us for wanting to be taller? I think the ideal height is 6'4ish. You can be tall without looking freakish. It also means you'll still be pretty tall when you get older and shrink.


Do you realize that really tall men shrink more and are prone to more ailments? I think 6'1-6'2 tops. 6'4-6'8 are like shock value heights

avi says on 9/Feb/12
@xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 8/Feb/12
Ya..that's why i asked 6ft+ people to try the experiment..but only a few did..and they agreed with the difference felt.
When the difference gets to less than 4in..u start to reach the taller persons forehead and if the taller person has a slight relaxed posture..the height difference can be minimized definitely if the shorter person has footwear advantage or stands in military position.
Recently i passed by a man who was about 5ft 10 and soon as he saw me..he came beside me..stood straight and started lifting his head up..it was kind of funny..overall i have seen that those people who are about 3-4in shorter than me..tend to do so..i would say they r just making fool out of themseleves.
I would like to ask you and as well as other people above 6ft that how many of you have faced this situation..FE i have faced it many times..But wait a second if a guy like challenger 15 arrives i might feel a bit odd but i certainly wouldn't try to make myself look taller next to him because i know 4in+ difference is start of towering..!!

Well my friend who is about 2 inches shorter does htis. lofts his head but also people who are barely taller than me. They lift their head but if i was to do it as well i'd be just as tall. i prefer to stand in normal posture not lift my head up like a fool. Challenger 15 was only 6'3.4 or something? thats like 2.5 inches taller than you so he wouldnt even tower me...

George Fergadiotis says on 9/Feb/12
Many people believe that you have to be the perfect height to have girls and they read about how to approach a woman in many books sites etc, we don't need to make it a science. Maybe after all height has nothing to do with money, fame and how many girls you have. Look at Tom Cruise at 5ft 7 and he had a full life.

James says on 9/Feb/12
Shaun says on 9/Feb/12
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I uploaded a picture of my physique in the screen, you need to view it from a distance really to see it clearly. I think I was around 215 when that was taken. I would get somebody to take a full length photo standing up but I really detest having a photo taken of my face. I am my own worst enemy...

u look like you have a meso or endormorphic build which is not that common since many fair haired guys such as yourself tend too be hardgainers

George Fergadiotis says on 9/Feb/12
Rob you said that people shrink more if they are on their feet. Why they can't have a bath before measuring and what time we must wake to measure later in the night? How much time to pass from lying until measuring and what other things we must not do when measuring?

Tommy says on 9/Feb/12
Oh, and talking of shrinking: is there any celebrity who hasn't lost any height at all, even going past 70, or does anyone know of any family members or friends of theirs this applies to? I wonder if it even can happen, or how common it is.

Tommy says on 9/Feb/12
It's surprising that 5'10 - 6'1 was seen as the overall ideal. Huh. I always hear women go on about liking tall guys, and they really seem to flock to them. Perhaps the women in that study didn't want to appear to have as high standards, or couldn't estimate the heights properly. Maybe it's just the novelty factor that makes them talk about tall guys.

yomismo says on 9/Feb/12
I think that there are 2 clear differences with respect to the body. Basically we want to have good physique for two reasons:
attract women or be more powerful than other men

for example you you're like this man, David Gandy. 6'2, perfect facial features and athletic body your're a magnet for women!
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But in a hypothetical dispute-discussion-intimidation of a person's type of k-1 or heavyweight boxer. Examples Badr Hari, Alistair Overeem, Klitschko brothers, etc.. Men's of 1'95-2 meters (6´5-6´7) and 110-120 kg (240-260 pounds) of solid muscle your you feel really small and less manly. Also this type of men as they have an impressive size and are physically powerful also has a large audience among women.

I am speaking about pure attraction (real wet pussy, mot interest for diverse motives. Social or economic), not do them example of millionaires ugly, fat, etc... with beautiful women, that is another issue.

I think that all depends on if they're only like women or you like more feel more powerful than other men.

Henrik says on 9/Feb/12
Tommy says on 9/Feb/12
Women do seem to have a strong preference for taller men. Can you blame us for wanting to be taller? I think the ideal height is 6'4ish. You can be tall without looking freakish. It also means you'll still be pretty tall when you get older and shrink.

I am pretty convinced that the majority of women who want a taller guy would see ~6'1" as ideal before 6'4", except maybe those who are like 5'10" and above. But then again, some really tall girls actually seem to be fond of shorter guys.

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Shaun says on 9/Feb/12
I think the guy in the Letterman clip looks about 2 inches taller than the one in Take me Out in comparison, I maybe be wrong though. I think Paddy is legitimately close to 6'1" though.

Tommy says on 9/Feb/12
Women do seem to have a strong preference for taller men. Can you blame us for wanting to be taller? I think the ideal height is 6'4ish. You can be tall without looking freakish. It also means you'll still be pretty tall when you get older and shrink.

Shaun says on 9/Feb/12
Rob, what's the average height loss do you think from say midday to last thing at night? 4mm strikes me as unusually low after another 11 hours on your feet. I lose almost half an inch from midday to before I go to bed and about half an inch from out of bed to midday.

Lillo Thomas says on 9/Feb/12
I don't know about standard doors being 6-6 . All doors in my house are 80 inches 6-8 tall.

Shaun says on 9/Feb/12
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I uploaded a picture of my physique in the screen, you need to view it from a distance really to see it clearly. I think I was around 215 when that was taken. I would get somebody to take a full length photo standing up but I really detest having a photo taken of my face. I am my own worst enemy...

Larc-186.7cm-188.6cm says on 9/Feb/12
@xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms):
Yeah, that's for sure, but I would still consider 6'1+ as legit tall.

MaskDeMasque says on 9/Feb/12
@Shaun

i lose most of my height very quickly. i wake up at 5'10.25", then in a couple of hours I'm just over 5'10 mark, then by early afternoon i'm usually just under 5'9.75" then drop another 4 maybe 5 mm from mid afternoon to night to become 5'9.5". so yeh, it is possible. thats prob about a 2cm loss for me.

Henrik says on 9/Feb/12
Jack says on 8/Feb/12
Im 6'5 and 15, will i grow anymore people, did you still grow when you got older

Yep, most likely. I would recommend you to try out basketball or volleyball.

interesting experiment says on 7/Feb/12
height can be very misleading. its all down to posture. i measure again at 181 evening

Agreed. I'm a 6'3" (190-191cm) guy who often gets mistaken for being 6'1" (185cm). In my case, I suppose it is rather unfortunate posture. Clint Eastwood too usually came off as being shorter than his 6'4" (193cm) height, although I don't know if it was bad posture in his case that did it.

Benny says on 8/Feb/12
Under 185cm is not counted as a real man. This is a truth. Accept or not! 186-187cm and over for a man is best and under 185cm men are not handsome!

I can at times think that shorter guys were blessed with better-looking faces. James Dean, Paul Newman, Jude Law, Johnny Depp, Clooney, etc. are/were all under 185cm/6'1", even 180cm/5'11". I'd say that all of those tall and muscular John Wayne and Arnold Schwarzenegger Western/action heroes primarily were or are impressing other men rather than women. Most of them, if not all of them, never base(d) their careers on being popular among the female audience.

Myself, height rather helped me with my ugliness when I was in my teens. I was for instance told that the only part I could get in a movie would be Frankenstein's monster. LOL. My most handsome friend is maybe 5'9", weak 5'10" (175-177cm).

tom234 says on 9/Feb/12
MD says on 8/Feb/12
So, now, this is the "Take Me Out" thread, right?

haha apprently so :P. nah it is a good indication as normal guys go on there and are judged by 30 women so the sample size is not bad. everyone time a guy there is taller than paddy a girl will be sure to say 'yeah he's tall' as if to say that by his height alone he's worth a date.

a 6'8 guy went on there and every single girl there loved his height. not one of them turned their light out until he told them more about himself.

i personally believe that the best height for looking attractive and feeling physically dominant is between 188cm-193cm. if you are within that height range at night, then you have no concerns at all about your height.

Vegas says on 9/Feb/12
Shaun says on 8/Feb/12
That guy James is a basketball player 6'8" though isn't he?. He looks more a 6'6" er next to Paddy, probably 6'6.5"-6'6.75"
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well compare him to amare who is a measured 6'8.5 barefoot next to letterman 2min 30secs Click Here

Georgi Iliev says on 9/Feb/12
For me the perfect hight for man is 183cm (in the evening)! To be 195cm or 200cm is very unpleasantly! This is crazy!

Chameleon says on 9/Feb/12
@Vegas Oh if thats the case, Paddy is 185 indeed, so be it :D

SAK says on 9/Feb/12
Shaun says on 8/Feb/12
So you think you are 187.4 cm midday and 187cm right at the end of the day? I very much doubt it. I shrink a good cm from mid afternoon to last thing at night and I'm sure most people would shrink more than 4 millimetres in 11 to 12 hours.
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Everyone is different Shaun.

For example for me:
Morning:183.2cm
Afternoon:182.2cm
Night:181.6cm

All together I lose roughly 1.6cm (give or take 1-2mm), and I only lose 6mm from afternoon till night.

Greg says on 9/Feb/12
Benny says on 8/Feb/12
Under 185cm is not counted as a real man. This is a truth. Accept or not! 186-187cm and over for a man is best and under 185cm men are not handsome!

Oh no Benny you so right! So at night time when thanks to gravity I'm 184cm I lose my looks and my masculinity. I'm lucky I have pretty girlfriend, great family friends a good job and a gym toned physique to console myself with this lack of height.

Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 9/Feb/12
tom234 says on 8/Feb/12
Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 7/Feb/12
@ tom234 - watch this from 4.26-4.56:

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worrying about pulling women at 186cm? see that and tell me its the height right?

yeah but he is exceptionally good looking (without sounding gay) so he could pull any girl at any height annoyingly.

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I wouldnt of said he was particuly good looking let alone "exceptionally".to me he is a solid decent looking guy although not stand out wow..but clearly he is so what do I know? lol.
Plus NO he couldnt pull at any height. If he was under 178cm(or maybe even 180-181cm) he WOULDNT. Sure he'd get a few intrested but he would in no way shape or form get all these jaw dropping comments of how good his tall,brilliant physique is..his whole look of him would change(even if he had his EXACT facial looks). His long legs,long toned physique and the fact hes "tall and I can look up into his eyes and feel feminine" or "I can wear heels and still be smaller" or "I dunno what it is I just feel protected from a tall guy" would disappear and he'd be less datable.
The big word is "subcontious", height will always be a huge factor and bigger than any other single attribute.
I know take me out isnt a good section of the "normal" public but if you see any 6ft+ guy who gets "blacked out" please tell me? Ive witnessed some right wierdos(1 which thinks its ok to cheat whilst with a girl, one who uses parts of his body to do farts, one who basically tells the whole room there second best)..amongst others, yet they always get a date(always 6ft 1 or more).
how many short guys have got rejected? alot of the time when they are PERFECTLY normal looking guys.
I remember a guy once who was good looking facially, built like a brick wall muscular and had a PHD is something - Smart, good looking and well built as well as a good personality and wit, yet he was short..guess what happened? Height, especially in regards to dating but alsoother things in life, is the simple most important physical trate - Its like the unwritten rule, subtle, hidden, not realised - subcontious.
The point I was making is dont ever be disapointed with a perfect height for a height that AT best is level in terms of quality(IMO If I got offered 186 or 188 Id pick 186cm all day).

@ Everyone else - Now as Ive been slated before I will say - I am NOT saying that ANY guy above 6ft will NEVER have ANYTHING to worry about. BUT...in regards to HEIGHT then NO they have NOTHING to worry about. If a 6ft guy has say an ugly face or physique etc then clearly hes not going to be this pin up or this "perfect guy" that sub 6footers might think would happen to them should they be tall.

Yet what tall guys dont realise is that womens natural "subcontious feel" even when standing next to a guy is determining if hes the right "mate" for her and alot of the feel of attraction is subcontiously to do with HEIGHT.

The point of this post really is that any guy 6ft+ really should NEVER complaim in regards to height.

You are clearly insecure about yourself and blame the only good thing you have(your height if 6ft+)..I mean without even seeing any of these complaiming 6footers I know that its more anything other than your height thats making you insecure because:

If your height is 183cm or more and yet its STILL not your BEST trate then clearly to have a better physique/face than your height means you wouldnt be here complaining.
Or if your height is 183+ and is your best trate then clearly that is exactly the reason why you shouldnt wish to change your best trate and focus on the real problems.
Either way its not your height - 100% once you get over 183cm and probably 90% never a problem when over 180cm.

Brian 6ft 4in says on 8/Feb/12
@ThePerfectHeight, agreed. IMO, 6'3" - 6'5" is ideal. 6'5.5" - 6'6"+ is where height-related difficulties in daily life become much more pressing.

@Drew, if you're 5'9"+ out of bed and 5'8.5" at night, you should claim 5'9".

Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 8/Feb/12
@ Klem - Nah I reckon hes more 185cm(maybe 186cm).
Ok granted that "6'1 and a little bit" guy has him by maybe 1-2cm but shoes,posture and/or maybe that guy being maybe a little taller than he claims(certainly looks taller than 6'1 tbh) all could cause this.
He looks solidly 2-3cm taller than a guy claiming 6ft, basically the same height as a guy claiming 6'2 and there was a guy who claimed 6'5 and he held himself really well(Id even say 3 inch, not even 4 let alone 5!)
Now obviously the 6'5/6'2 guys etc could all be lying or rounding up but I have enough evidence to suggest that Paddy is 99% not under 184cm and most probably not under 185cm. Id say 185-186cm is a fair bet for Paddy but maybe 184-185cm range AT WORST but Id be extremely shocked if he measured under 184cm at night.
Whats your opinion rob on Paddy?

Pete Procrastinator says on 8/Feb/12
How to appear taller? Wear a hat, though not pulled down, but just hanging on. For men a suit, or a long coat, make a massive difference. The best colour being a dark blue. Not black (this slims but makes one look smaller altogether). For stocky fellows go for a single-breasted suit. On non-suit trousers have 'piping' (like the Napoleanic-era officers), or 'raised seams' at least. You might need a tailor for these. Obviously wearing high heels works, but disguise them by letting the trouser leg partly cover the heel. The boots/shoes not too chunky. Other tricks being these. When standing, slightly stand on the toes (only within the actual boot/shoe). This can give about quarter of an inch. Legs locked back (but don't do if painful!). Backside held in. Belly pushed back to lessen the curve of the spine. Shoulders pressed down. Chin slightly tilted down, which makes your crown go higher. Alternatively, if face-to-face, partly tilt your head back. Not too much, though, or it can look condescending (the operative word being "descending"). Last trick I know is to deliberately lift the hair up. This can be done by manual scrunching and/or with a blow dryer. This gives at least half an inch extra. When walking, walk from the hip bones, not the knees. And step gently, as if walking on a delicate surface. This type of walking also tones the hamstrings, hips and rump. Win-win!

MD says on 8/Feb/12
So, now, this is the "Take Me Out" thread, right?

Pete Procrastinator says on 8/Feb/12
I use doors to roughly guess heights. The standard door is 78 inches (6ft 6in), the hinges are 4 inches long and placed 6 inches from the top/bottom of the door. If there's a thick carpet, or no carpet, this makes a difference of up to about half an inch. If there is a tough thick carpet then the following can be roughly deduced. Wearing 1 inch heels, the head scraping the top door frame indicates 6'5. Head level with the top of the hinge indicates 5'11. Head midway indicates 5'9. Head at the bottom indicates 5'7. If, however, there's no carpet, and someone also reaches the bottom of the hinge, s/he's probably 5'7.5. Do note that these are the measurements if someone is standing rigid against a wall. Therefore, in normality, they may be around half an inch lower against that door. For example, the 5'9 fellow won't be midway, but approximately half an inch lower. When watching TV etc I like to see where actors come up to a door. I'd be interested to read other views about this.

J.J. says on 8/Feb/12
@Avi she does look 5'10" or closer to that! 5'8.5"-5'10.25" women are tall but they aren't giants or anything like that!

@Theperdectheight what do you see as short & what height is a midget from your 6'3" perspective?
As a 6'1.78"/187.4cm guy I view anything under 5'7" short for men despite 5'7.53" is 25%tile height range

Pete Procrastinator says on 8/Feb/12
@Drew I think you could call yourself 5ft 9in. When judging peoples' height I always round up to what their rising height might be. In other words give them the benefit of the doubt. I understand this is what the police do. Note the amount you personally shrink in a day is the normal amount for a male (between 0.75-1:00in). Females average 0.50-0.75in.

Henrik says on 8/Feb/12
avi says on 7/Feb/12
well i can tell you that girl isnt 5'9. she is in the weak 5'8 maybe 5'7 range. I have been around 5'9 girls before and even 5'10 and they would appear ugly tall in pictures. like skinny and lanky looking.

Tell that to Rob, who has her at 5'9.5".

tom234 says on 8/Feb/12
how accurate is the aersol can method. i was 18 in june and was measured around may at my GP at 185cm in the morning on a stadiometer. i tried the aerosol can method a couple weeks back and measured myself as follows:

morning-188cm
afternoon-187cm
evening-186cm

i have re measured myself numerous times and i am almost 100% sure i am measuring myself correctly with the flat walls and that. surely it is too late for me to have another growth spurt? i am like over 18 and a half??

SAK says on 8/Feb/12
@Reality, i think i did, lol.

George Fergadiotis says on 8/Feb/12
Rob i have a brother he is about 5ft 7.5 who has curvature of the spine (scoliosis) and doctors said to him that he has an immature spine and that he is gonna grow tall until the age of 25.It looks to me impossible to happen. What do you think? Is it possible?

tom234 says on 8/Feb/12
klem says on 8/Feb/12
@Dean 5ft 9.25

Paddy is 6-0. He is solid inch shorter than a guy who claims 6-1 and a bit.

i think paddy is 6'1. people on the show who claim 6 foot are always slightly shorter than him. The majority of the guys who go on take me out are usually paddy's height or taller than him.

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 8/Feb/12
@avi Ya..that's why i asked 6ft+ people to try the experiment..but only a few did..and they agreed with the difference felt.
When the difference gets to less than 4in..u start to reach the taller persons forehead and if the taller person has a slight relaxed posture..the height difference can be minimized definitely if the shorter person has footwear advantage or stands in military position.
Recently i passed by a man who was about 5ft 10 and soon as he saw me..he came beside me..stood straight and started lifting his head up..it was kind of funny..overall i have seen that those people who are about 3-4in shorter than me..tend to do so..i would say they r just making fool out of themseleves.
I would like to ask you and as well as other people above 6ft that how many of you have faced this situation..FE i have faced it many times..But wait a second if a guy like challenger 15 arrives i might feel a bit odd but i certainly wouldn't try to make myself look taller next to him because i know 4in+ difference is start of towering..!!

@Larc 6ft 1.75in Do u agree that if your were 6ft 5 then your height perspective would be different from now..??

Jack says on 8/Feb/12
Im 6'5 and 15, will i grow anymore people, did you still grow when you got older

Benny says on 8/Feb/12
Under 185cm is not counted as a real man. This is a truth. Accept or not! 186-187cm and over for a man is best and under 185cm men are not handsome!

Shaun says on 8/Feb/12
That guy James is a basketball player 6'8" though isn't he?. He looks more a 6'6" er next to Paddy, probably 6'6.5"-6'6.75"

Shaun says on 8/Feb/12
That hockey player looks a bit taller than the guys who've claimed 6'2"....

Shaun says on 8/Feb/12
J.J. says on 7/Feb/12
@tom234 your height is absolutely fine don't sweat it! I'm 187.4cm for most part of the day my lowest is a flat 187cm & in from London .
This is the thing about heights I think we're in the typical tall mans height range:

So you think you are 187.4 cm midday and 187cm right at the end of the day? I very much doubt it. I shrink a good cm from mid afternoon to last thing at night and I'm sure most people would shrink more than 4 millimetres in 11 to 12 hours.

tom234 says on 8/Feb/12
Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 7/Feb/12
@ tom234 - watch this from 4.26-4.56:

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worrying about pulling women at 186cm? see that and tell me its the height right?

yeah but he is exceptionally good looking (without sounding gay) so he could pull any girl at any height annoyingly.

Vegas says on 8/Feb/12
Chameleon says on 7/Feb/12
Click Here

So called 6'1 Paddy is smaller than this guy who is 186cm........
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the other guy is clearly in ~2 inch cowboy boots there though

klem says on 8/Feb/12
@Dean 5ft 9.25

Paddy is 6-0. He is solid inch shorter than a guy who claims 6-1 and a bit.

Reality says on 8/Feb/12
@SAK


Did you copy my comment when you replied to Cindy lol?I totally agree with you.It's amazing how similar our point of views are.And yeah,2" is still noticable and decent difference.

ThePerfectHeight says on 8/Feb/12
Im 6 foot 3 and im not going to lie its great to be tall. I personally believe 6 1 to 6 4 is the ideal height. As soon as you hit 6 5 you start to become freakishly tall.

Oh and i also notice people on here who like 15 fretting about height. If your still a midget at 21, then your probably a midget for life. I did most of my growing when i was 18.

dmeyer says on 8/Feb/12
jake a couple hours out of bed i am 182.8-183cm we can be close then in takes me 5-6 hours to go to 182cm when i mesured at the office 3-4 hours out of bed i am 182.4-182.5cm only 3-4 pm i go under 182cm , up to 2-3pm i am 182cm or over after 4 pm i am 181.9cm or under

SAK says on 8/Feb/12
@Dean 5ft 9.25, Peter Kay is listed as 5ft8 on here and Paddy is at least 5" taller then him. Paddy is likely between 184-186cm, and most likely 185cm.

Both have similar footwear here. Click Here

SAK says on 8/Feb/12
@Cindy, I usually agree with majority of your posts on here but disagree with your following comment:
"Overall though, a lot of the girls I know have dated guys who are too short for them, like they would be 5'4" and their boyfriends have been only 5'7"

How is being 3" taller then your gf mean your too short for them.??

Being too short for your gf is being same height as her or actually being shorter then her. Even if your 2" taller then her its still ok, imo. But ideal difference is 4-6".

Drew says on 8/Feb/12
I need a suggestion here, what should I say my height is if I am a little over 5'9 in the morning and am 5'8.25-5 at night?

jake, 1.82 m- 1.83 m- 1.84 m says on 7/Feb/12
Laser stadiometers can over or under-measure slightly. I measured myself as 183-183.2 cm at home a couple of hours out of bed and the machine measured me as 184 cm.

avi says on 7/Feb/12
@Henrik says on 1/Feb/12
Well, this Darius Danesh seems more than four inches taller than his girlfriend/wife Natasha Henstridge, who is supposedly a weak 5'10":


well i can tell you that girl isnt 5'9. she is in the weak 5'8 maybe 5'7 range. I have been around 5'9 girls before and even 5'10 and they would appear ugly tall in pictures. like skinny and lanky looking.

avi says on 7/Feb/12
@xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 6/Feb/12

yes i agree the pics can make one look shorter or taller. In the case of the taller person it can make him look smaller. Also just because someone towers a 6'0 person doesnt mean its good. It isnt good to be excessively fatter than someone...in fact with height it can be very dangerous (especially with age) to be too tall. 6'3 absolute max with a 6'1-6'2 preferable range.

Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 7/Feb/12
@ tom234 - watch this from 4.26-4.56:

Click Here

worrying about pulling women at 186cm? see that and tell me its the height right?

Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 7/Feb/12
Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 7/Feb/12
Rob how tall does think this guy(17.10 secs on the clip) is from take me out?
View 19.00-19.02 to judge next to paddy?

Click Here

At 19.08 he claims how tall he is(or thinks he is?). Before you view how tall he claims, view 19.00-19.02 and predict is height? be good to hear your opinion because im baffled.

Everyone else who views this do the same(without viewing what he says first) and be honest were you shocked at his claim?

[Editor Rob: his hair looked about Paddy's eyelevel, so near 5 inches might be probable.

It depends what Paddy is, I know he's been described 6 foot and 6 foot 1 in the past, although I'm not sure what he himself has said.]
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I thought the same about 4.5-5inch but think paddy is 6'1 so thought 5'8-5'9 for him so was suprised when he says "im 5'7 ginger and a brummy".
He dont look that short, if he really was 5'7 that would IMO make Paddy a weak 6footer like 182cm right?
I dont think Paddy is less than 185cm because compared to other guys who claim on that show(like Ive seen a 6'5 claim,6'2, 6'3 etc) and all of them suit well next to paddy if he was 6'1 ranged(even 186cm Ive thought?)
Paddy for me cant be less than 184cm? maybe you should list him on this site haha.
I might go on the show and see how a 175.5cm man stands next to him haha

J.J. says on 7/Feb/12
@tom234 your height is absolutely fine don't sweat it! I'm 187.4cm for most part of the day my lowest is a flat 187cm & in from London .
This is the thing about heights I think we're in the typical tall mans height range:

6''1.125"-6'2" that's what is expected of men who are definately tall!

I think the special range is the 95-99%tile 6'2.25"-6'4.2" because at this range your in the top of growth charts & women are also 5'8.5"-5'10.25"

If your just over 6'1" you should be close to 91% taller the men anyway which is a substantial amount

Chameleon says on 7/Feb/12
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So called 6'1 Paddy is smaller than this guy who is 186cm........

Jon says on 7/Feb/12
tom - My best mate is very close to your height. I am 189 at night - it is hard to tell the difference to be honest and your obviously still tall. In fact, you dont quite stick out as much - still considered tall . I dont know your build obviously but 186 ish is probably the max height you can be without looking 'lanky'.

Reality says on 7/Feb/12
@Cindy

I'd MUCH rather date a 5'11 girl than 4'11.

As you said "Overall though, a lot of the girls I know have dated guys who are too short for them, like they would be 5'4" and their boyfriends have been only 5'7"."

Well,actually a 5'7 guy isn't too short for a 5'4 girl because difference between them would be 3 inches and the average difference between men and women is about 5 inches.I also think that 4-6 inches is the best difference between a man and woman.

So if a 5'7 guy (2 inches less) is too short for a 5'4 girl then she must be too short for a 5'11 guy (2 more inches).

Shaun says on 7/Feb/12
Paddy looks the same height as a guy who claimed 6' but he also only looked an inch shorter than a guy who claimed 6'2". I'd say his listing 185cm looks about accurate.

jake, 1.82 m- 1.83 m- 1.84 m says on 7/Feb/12
tom234, you're 6ft1.5, right in the middle of the most desirable height range.

kurp182 says on 7/Feb/12
Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 29/Jan/12
Ok im going to ask a question to everyone. If someone said you can pick the height you want to be, what would you pick? Say in cm's to an EXACT cm

185cm evening.

Ikbob says on 7/Feb/12
@Dean & Rob

Check out this video from "Take me out"

Click Here

check min 03:57 to see height comparison between Paddy and that guy. He is clearly around 1 inch taller than Paddy.

Then look at his height claim at 04:53 (6'1)

Paddy is surely around 5'11.5-6'0.5 tall.

James says on 7/Feb/12
foudn the clip with the 6ft8 guy
Click Here

James says on 7/Feb/12
i remember there was a guy that claimed 6'8 on take me out but cannot find the clip

tom234 says on 7/Feb/12
i am 187cm in the afternoon. you reckon this is a good height? i wish i could be a little taller like 190cm but i dunno. i am from the uk. i cant quite claim 6'2 so i have to always claim 'just over 6'1. i would like to at least be 188cm at night. currently i am 186cm at night.

i dunno what you guys think?

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 7/Feb/12
@Cindy Thnx a lot for replying.

@Larc 6ft 1.75in Man..i bet most of the people were afraid to talk to u in that costume..Talking about that fashion show i somehow think that its a complete publicity stunt the announcer said before that the there could be 'no prize' also.despite of knowing this that guy went on to do the same..!!

interesting experiment says on 7/Feb/12
height can be very misleading. its all down to posture. i measure again at 181 evening

Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 7/Feb/12
Rob how tall does think this guy(17.10 secs on the clip) is from take me out?
View 19.00-19.02 to judge next to paddy?

Click Here

At 19.08 he claims how tall he is(or thinks he is?). Before you view how tall he claims, view 19.00-19.02 and predict is height? be good to hear your opinion because im baffled.

Everyone else who views this do the same(without viewing what he says first) and be honest were you shocked at his claim?

Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 6/Feb/12
@ James - Thats 5'6/5'6.5 guy on take me out looks about 5'4 IMO? not sure what the expert rob thinks? but Id say 5'4ish seems his range(If Paddy is 6'1)

Pete Procrastinator says on 6/Feb/12
@Dean asks what is one's ideal height for a man. I would be very happy between 180-185cm (5'11-6'1).
@Fricaman You're spot on mate: there's far too many obstacles with ladies without adding your own.

interesting experiment says on 6/Feb/12
experiment a success, 184 out of bed.

Shaun says on 6/Feb/12
Yeah Gaga because you are focused on the flaw when you see people you become convinced that's all they can see and so obvious to them and its also the first thing they notice and makes you think you are looking much worse to them than you are when they actually see a quite a good looking guy. The problem for me if I'm out in public is if I walk into a heated shop or room from the cold and can feel my face burning me I start to feel uncomfortable and because I can't see myself and can feel it burning my brain sort of tells me I'm looking hideous and I'll try to avoid looking at people and mirrors in shops while I have those episodes. Once its flared up I'm stuck with it for hours. And then if I have to speak to somebody I sort of feel my power has been taken away from me because I'm not in control of my skin and they can see it, so I probably don't come across as very confident. That's why I even start thinking about other things like height and looks and showing an interest in people who I perceive as looking better than myself and super confident and wishing I had the stability that they have and the feeling of always being as good as anybody and never having to worry about appearance. Most of them though are celebrities like those listed on here, you never see guys looking like Joe Manganiello, Jared Padalecki or Hugh Jackman do you!! I feel quite positive about my height and physique and am content from the neck down really even if I don't think I'm perfect, but the problems I have with my face affecting how sure I am of myself cancels it out and makes me view myself in a way some people would be quite surprised at if they met me. So this is why I tend to get quite annoyed on here by people who seem to think that being on the tall side is more important than anything and that it automatically means you have no problems.

Shaun says on 6/Feb/12
James says on 5/Feb/12
this guy on take me out claims "5'6 1/2"

Click Here

how tall do you think he really is?

Looks about the same height next to 6'-6'1" Paddy as the semi pro surfer they had on the new series who was an "escort" and he claims 5'5" on his site which I saw in the newspaper and looks about that.

Shaun says on 6/Feb/12
@Paul. I'd been on the front row at Def Leppard concerts twice and Joe does look a full 6'2" to me. Vivian Campbell is the best looking one and has a great style. Joe kinda looks like a northern tranny. Phil Collen is 5'7" ish possibly a bit under and must be 140 pounds tops and that's only because he has a bit of muscle. Very lsight of build.

George Fergadiotis says on 6/Feb/12
Rob at what age we men stop to grow taller?

George Fergadiotis says on 6/Feb/12
Rob i measured myself at a legit 180.5 cm in the evening. What height you say you list me if i was a celebrity?

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 6/Feb/12
@Peyman(182.3cm-184.2cm) Thanks for appreciating my view..Talking about your list..it does make sense.
Some people here are talking as if 6ft is an ordinary height..every tom,dick and harry can reach that height easily..whereas reality is something completely opposite.
At the same time i have met people of my height who claim 6ft 3,6ft 4..i can only say that its kiddish..what if they were 5ft 1 instead of 6ft 1..??
I have heard loads of 5ft 5-10in guyz say that they want to be of my height.
6ft 5+ are excessively tall heights..if u r that tall..its good..you would tower over even a legit 6ft person but it has loads of disadvantages.
It ain't useful unless u r involved in sports such as basket ball.

People want to be 6ft 3+ tall because they don't realize how they would feel at these heights..difference between 6ft 5.5 and 6ft 1 is 4.5in but when i stood on the pavement the difference was enormous..and even your experience tells u that.

Talking about height difference..pics can definitely lie..but live experiences can't...My cousin brother is a legit 188.5cms at his lowest..and the difference between me and him is about an inch...But in pics he appears to be equal to me...what i m trying to say that it gets difficult to point out the difference when it goes to less than an inch...of-course to non celebheights visitors..as they are not height detectives like us..;)

Triplescrew says on 6/Feb/12
SAK says on 6/Feb/12
Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 29/Jan/12
Ok im going to ask a question to everyone. If someone said you can pick the height you want to be, what would you pick? Say in cm's to an EXACT cm.

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183cm

cmt3 says on 6/Feb/12
James says on 5/Feb/12
this guy on take me out claims "5'6 1/2"

how tall do you think he really is?
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5'4-5'5. The host is supposedly 6'1". A 5'6.5 guy just doesn't look that short next to 6'1, assuming normal type footwear.

This is a 5'7-ish guy next to the same host. 1:53 min.

Click Here

fricanman says on 6/Feb/12
@Cindy says on 3/Feb/12 - see the thing about girls is, they can be hot at almost any height

Absolutely agree! I would even say ANY height. Can't say I have ever let a girl's height stand in my way. There are far too many other hurdles when it comes to approaching the ladies to start adding your own limits into the mix!!

Paul-181cm says on 6/Feb/12
Take a look at old photos of the rock band Def Leppard. Joe is 6'1, Steve is 5'11, Sav is 5'10.5 Rick is 5'9 Phil is 5'8.
Steve and Sav have a more handsome face than Joe, but Joe's height is just too much of a trump card in overall attractiveness. 6'1 is an awesome height, period.

interesting experiment says on 6/Feb/12
used a stadio, am 182.5cm on the spot now before bed. tomorrow morning will try to wake and take a reading

Cindy says on 6/Feb/12
@xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms)-

Hmm, well I guess it depends on the girl, but the reason short girls prefer tall guys isnt just for their kids to be taller, but for the same reason taller girls want tall guys too- they seem more masculine.

See, if a girl is petite, but not extremely short, then it's okay, because as long as she isnt dwarf height (<4'10" I reckon) she can pass off as cute or even sexy, depending on her looks in general.

I mean, there are average height and above average girls my height, and even taller girls than me, who are just plain ugly, so no one cares about their height, but I have so many pretty friends who are shorter than me, and no one minds their height either- they're either hot or not.

Overall though, a lot of the girls I know have dated guys who are too short for them, like they would be 5'4" and their boyfriends have been only 5'7".

It's not that big of a deal as long as the guy is good looking and nice to talk to.

I personally prefer guys that are 5'11"- 6'2" but I wouldnt be too fussy if a guy was a few inches shorter or taller than that, if I liked everything else about him:)

SAK says on 6/Feb/12
Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 29/Jan/12
Ok im going to ask a question to everyone. If someone said you can pick the height you want to be, what would you pick? Say in cm's to an EXACT cm.
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186 or 187cm imo is ideal.

Peyman(182.3cm-184.2cm) says on 6/Feb/12
@Dmeyer , oh I meant hours by ours in the second line in my post in 2/Feb/12! sorry, but i'm pretty sure I pushed the H button too , maybe it just hadn't work !

Peyman(182.3cm-184.2cm) says on 6/Feb/12
@xyz.reg , and about three days ago I met a cousin of mine after not seeing him for about two years he seemed really taller than his previous and I thought he could easily be 184cm and it was his own claim too but for sure I asked him to be measured with the aerosol method and now the interesting part of the story:
I measured him at only 180.3 cm around 11.30 pm !!! 2 cm shorter than me I couldn’t believe it so we also stood in front of a straight mirror and with the eyelevel a weak inch was pretty obvious and he himself accepted it too . I’m now amazed that am I really that tall ? I guess I am!

Peyman(182.3cm-184.2cm) says on 6/Feb/12
xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 31/Jan/12
As i said earlier 6ft has not been given the respect it demands here on this site and i don't think that will change...a legit 6ft is tall by all means..there is no way u can say that its not tall..a legit 6ft guy can getaway by claiming upto 6ft 2 atleast 7 out of 10 times..even if u c this site rob has listed many 6ft 11.5-6ft celebrities at least an inch or an inch and a half higher than their actual height.
@others Guyz try this..specially those who r above 6ft..stand 'barefoot' on pavement or anything else which is more than 4in tall heightwise..don't bend down your face..look straight then just look down to the floor..its not something which we don't know but it can give a close idea about how u would feel if u were that tall.
FE I stood barefoot on a 4.5in tall pavement..i was 6ft 5.5 and felt 'MEGA' tall..i could make out that there was quiete a good difference between my height and that height..guyz plz try this and tell me your experiences by comparing the difference u felt between your actual height and that height..i m sure it would have some effect on your perspective and the definition of tallness....!!
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@ xyz.reg , another perfect post like all the previous ones , your absolutely right 6ft 0in is tall this is the height which I can speak about all day long and say why it is great , you are also right that a 6ft guy could easily upgrade himself to 6ft 2 in , I have experienced that thousands of times, I’ve even been guessed as high as 191 cm= strong 6ft 3in ! but 3 cm taller is still my preference , I learnt many things in your posts dude I mean you made me be more familiar with the truth that the ideal range is (5ft 11in-6ft 3in) , no doubt about that , but now tell me what’s your idea about this list ? (here consider me 6ft ) .
(5ft 11in-6ft 0in) : weak ideal , tallish , this height makes tons of people be happy with .
(6ft 0in – 6ft 2in) : ideal , tall , awesome , perfect to be a model , etc .
(6ft 2in- 6ft 3in) : weak ideal , solid tall , from this height & so on the taller the worse .
6ft 3in+ is the start of very tall & I’ve spoken about it before.
And yesterday when I had a pair of 3cm nike footwear I stood on a 5ft pavement , if we eliminate the shoe effect ( cause everybody have it ) so I was a legit 6ft 5in & I was honestly a real colossus & there is no way I had good feeling with that . I also tried it at home on a 7 in one & that was enough to feel like a giraffe !!

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 6/Feb/12
@Cindy...Your height is kind of perfect height for female IMO..I won't prefer to date a girl who is taller than me..a 6ft 2 girl would stand out like a sore thumb if u talk about females..some of them look quite disproportionate..but still if they have good personality and are sexy and good looking i might change my mind.
It has happened with me that the girls who proposed me were about a foot shorter than me..some of them were quiet pretty.
One thing which i can never forget from my school life was the most famous pair of our school..the guy was about 6ft 3 and the girl was about 4ft 11..they were in a serious relationship.
Whenever they used to roam around in canteens,corridors..people used to pass comments and make fun of them.But they were not at all bothered what other people were saying.
Someone here said that usually short girls prefer tall guyz because they want their kids to be tall..what do u have to say about this..??

Larc-186.7cm-188.6cm says on 6/Feb/12
@xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms):
That happens because here in Italy there are a lot of foreign girls (they are probably originary from countries where the average height is taller than where I live).

Speaking about me, there's absolutely no way I'm doing that, not even for money, but my cousin did a similar thing however, to his 18y birthday...ahahah

I was selected time ago for a medieval fashion show, I had to dress as a silver knight, it was very fun, I was also wearing an helmet and not even my friends recognized me on the street. :)

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 6/Feb/12
@fricanman Yes..being a legit 6ft 1 i feel like giant here most of the times..i solidly tower over 95% of people when i m out on the streets/malls/market places...u would get see a few 5ft 8-10 guyz..but above that would be rare.
About a month back i faced an unexpected situation in which i was surrounded by 6ft 2+ guyz..although it was a "once in a blue moon situation"..but the experience is everlasting.
If u r a legit 6ft here u can get away by claiming upto 6ft 4.If u talk as per average..the overall average is 5ft 4.6in..which has been rounded to 5ft 5..a 5ft 11in person would be 6in above the average..so he will be equivalent to a 6ft 3.5 US/UK guy...similarly i m equivalent to 6ft 5.5in US/UK guy here in my country..Most of the people here think that i m
6ft 4..i get loads of comments from people..when people ask me i say "just above 6ft 1" their eyes are wide open...they ask me whether i m sure or not..lolz!!
But i think its not their fault...taller people here lie about their height and they get away easily..most of the 6ft guys claims 6ft 2-3in..they know nobody can challenge them except a few legit 6 footers who are honest about their height.
Female overall average is 5ft..so u can understand what the situation is..!!
I don't know how tall u r..but if u r above 5ft 10..u will get loads of stares and comments when u walk here in local streets/markets..even in malls..!!

Pete Procrastinator says on 5/Feb/12
@MrKillerShrimp Thanks for your lovely response. And I think the Belgians should already be proud of their WW1 tributes. I was only in Belgium for a day, but was most impressed.

Dmeyer says on 5/Feb/12
I meant at 181.25-181.5cm lowest i aint that Mush over 180cm Mark it feels good , you dont look tall in crowed , my best friend who is 180cm looks gréât and get girls , not tall ones ,

Ikbob says on 5/Feb/12
Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 29/Jan/12
Ok im going to ask a question to everyone. If someone said you can pick the height you want to be, what would you pick? Say in cm's to an EXACT cm.

182-184cm. It is the best height for guys. With ideal proportions, it is perfection. It will give you that tallish look without over-doing it.

James says on 5/Feb/12
this guy on take me out claims "5'6 1/2"

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how tall do you think he really is?

dmeyer says on 5/Feb/12
hey marky i am 181.25 to 181.5cm at lowest so that mush over 180cm and it feels tallish many times , you dont stand out in croweds my best is legit 179.5-180cm at lowest and he looks perfect in proportion and girl like him very mush

Cindy says on 3/Feb/12
@xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms)-

see the thing about girls is, they can be hot at almost any height. But when you get to the ones that are below 5ft and those above 5'9" (assuming average is approx. 5'4.5") then I think it could be a problem when it comes to dating.

Ive mentioned that I have a 4'11" friend, who always gets 'cute' comments and finds it hard to be taken seriously because people treat her like a kid (she's 20years old though). She never leaves the house without at least 3inch heels on because she wants to minimize the difference between her and everyone else, especially the guys. She's quite pretty though, and has had far more boyfriends than I have, but she's never been with anyone taller than 5'10".

One of my other friends, on the other hand, is 5'11", and because she is really skinny (we are almost the same weight at 135 pounds), she sort of hunches her back to try and minimize her height and avoids heels at all costs. She too has a boyfriend though, although I have not met him in person so I dont know his height.

So while height does not matter too much is girls are within that range (5inches above and below average height), I think it is an issue for those who are in the bottom few percent, like above 6ft tall, or Snooki's height.

Those who are really tall can feel manly and giant, while the really short ones would feel tiny and child-like. I guess it depends on the guys' opninions :)

Mr-KILLER-SHRIMP says on 2/Feb/12
@Pete Procrastinator
No need to apologize mate :-) .The languages that are spoken in Belgium are Dutch, German and French. 'Flemish' is the term used to describe the form of Dutch spoken by the people in Flanders, the northern part of Belgium. But Flemish and Dutch are essentially the same, apart from some differences in pronunciation. A person from Flanders will always understand a person from Holland and vice versa.

I've been to Ypres loads of times on school trips, visiting the world war sites. I think the people of Belgium should be grateful to the other countries who sent their troops to save our country. It's our duty to show respect to the fallen. It shows that there are more important things to worry about in life than height lol!

Paul-181cm says on 2/Feb/12
I met a tallish girl and I'm getting ready for our first date. She is nearly a full 5'10 barefoot (at least 5'9.8) I'm just 5'11.3 barefoot so I'm only about 1.5 inch taller :(
Like klem I always wished I was 184-186cm and thought that my height wasn't quite strong enough to have any chance at dating a 5'10 girl. But I was wrong I guess 181-182cm can still be seen as "good enough height" for a tallish girl.
Has any other sub-6'0 guys here had luck getting a date with a strong 5'9 or 5'10 girl?

Gaga-183.2cm-185.1cm says on 2/Feb/12
Correct shaun, i agree with everything you said, but the last two sentences could have been written by myself, i know exactly what you mean, everyone should feel comfortable in their own skin and not thinking too much on what you havnt got or the things you dont like about yourself is the key to success, confidence make it all, we all have insecurities, everyone on earth, we are not different, those people you see as almost perfect might have some inside complexes only they can see, i do somedays feel worse than others, i even feel shorter around the same people, and thinking too much about it ruins my day. During my early teens, i used to think too much about my nose, as it was changing and growing, and i was always so worried about it that i couldnt help hiding myself from some lightening, but as i grew and time past, i have almost forgotten my nose, and i dont really think about it that much, it might not be perfect, but for sure it is worse in my mind, i do have some other complexes, that nobody can notice, but inside of one self it can hurt self esteem. Also so etime, i dont know if it happens to you but i feel so uncomfortable with my self, i dare to say i feel ugly, idk why but i have that feeling inside, but when i look in a mirror i realise it was all in my mind.

Baz says on 2/Feb/12
I have a question:

Is it at all possible to add 1-2 inches of height (even temporarily) by stretching everyday? Or is this just nonsense?

marky says on 2/Feb/12
Im about 188.5cm morning fella and just wondering how it would feel to be a little shorter. Well for me great heights as a male are 180cm-190cm. How would legit 180cm guy would feel in life. Would guess that with girls that would be a nice height to be. In public you wouldnt be noticed because of your height but you would still feel always over average or tallish. You would have this smaller guy pretty boy look without being too small. What do you 180cm guys think about your height?

marky says on 2/Feb/12
Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 29/Jan/12
Ok im going to ask a question to everyone. If someone said you can pick the height you want to be, what would you pick? Say in cm's to an EXACT cm.

Mine would be - 186cm on the dot barefoot at night.

Wear 1cm plyms you'll look tall, wear chunky shoes you'll start to look solid tall or somewhat very tall. Perfect for girls, Perfect for Sports, Perfect for giving off a tall desirable impression, Perfect for not standing out and your height being what your known as, Perfect for modelling and most of all Perfect to fit into the world as a standard tall male height.

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Hey i remember you saying a long time ago that 186.5cm was your ideal. You now fancy a smaller ideal huh?

heh back to the point. Well im like a 188.5cm or something guy in the morning. Minus couple of centimeters and then im at my evening height.

Wrote something about my ideal height a long time ago and mebbe i said 190cm then and im now talking about evening heights. Now im not that sure about that height to be the ideal one.

I agree with you what you said that my current height fit just great to a normal world.:

Use low shoes and you are looking tall.

Use thicker ones and you gonna start to stand out from the groud as a strong tall or start of very tall.

If you want you can even get away with a tallish or start of tall look by using low shoes and slouch, looking like a 183cm guys. (dont slouch btw:) Height wise this actually might be the ideal height from girls aspective. (What do you think chicks?) Now you can get away with even small girls, without looking too ankward.

I personally usually go with thick shoes. Im used to that strong tall look and i like it. With girls my height even can get too tall but with guys around i feel usually really comfortable.

So i would say that 188.5cm as an evening height would be perfect. You could use any kind of low shoes or slippers and you would appear like im now in my thick shoes. I think i said some time ago that 190cm would be my choice but i think its mebbe a notch too tall. Not with guys but with girls. I dont wanna dwarf girls i want to fit with their heights at least some kind of way. So 188.5cm

fricanman says on 2/Feb/12
@xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms)- Apologies for my "height imperialism" in previous post! I straight away presumed we were talking Europe/US averages, presumptuous of me. In countries with lower average height, like India, it is obviously more likely to find men under 5'. I still think they wouldn't be very common though.
In a "small" society I'd guess the insecurities would fall more on the "tall" individuals. A six footer would really stick out like a sore thumb in a nation averaging 5'5/6"

Peyman says on 2/Feb/12
@Dmeyer , how about you type my name correctly!!! ( Paymen =pay men = LOL ) . NP , vow is the meaning of my name ,but for your height claim : you know dude I don’t have that much shrink you have during my waking ours , for me it’s 1.9 cm but for you 2.8 cm ! so I agree with jake that 5ft 11.5in is the best claim for you (and remember anything between between 181cm-182cm seems to be fair for you , and 182cm 182.5cm is the best range for me to claim , .)

tom234 says on 2/Feb/12
Dean 5ft 9.25 says on 29/Jan/12
Ok im going to ask a question to everyone. If someone said you can pick the height you want to be, what would you pick? Say in cm's to an EXACT cm.

Mine would be - 186cm on the dot barefoot at night.

Wear 1cm plyms you'll look tall, wear chunky shoes you'll start to look solid tall or somewhat very tall. Perfect for girls, Perfect for Sports, Perfect for giving off a tall desirable impression, Perfect for not standing out and your height being what your known as, Perfect for modelling and most of all Perfect to fit into the world as a standard tall male height.

yours?

i would choose 190cm at night. you are solid tall and never dip below 6'3 but at the same time you are not awkwardly tall.

kurp182.5 says on 2/Feb/12
@ Otis ;
I had a friend who was always the shortest and a late bloomer - I was the opposite. At 15 he was about 5'5 and I was 5'10. By 16 he was 5'7 and I was 5'11. 17 he was 5'11 and I was 6'0. 18 He was 6'0.5" and I was still 6'0. 19 he is now about 187 / 6'1.5" and I am still 6'0, so he has outgrown me. Being a late bloomer, it is very likely that you will grow past 17, which gives you at least another 2 years. That's easily enough time to achieve 6'1, And I'd be a bit surprised if you didn't reach 6'0. Your parents are both solid heights as well, which may help.

Shaun says on 2/Feb/12
Nah James, he loves himself I think. I saw him on Pop Idol boasting about how many albums he would sell and his mannerisms which wreaked of a pretentious douchebag. And you can tell when he is interviewed by a female presenter he really thinks he is the s**t but he does have good reason to feel very confident I think.

Shaun says on 2/Feb/12
Yeah I apologise Gaga if I've come across badly to you. But I try to be as honest as possible about my appearance and situation as its good to share how you feel or think with people even if at times they don't want to hear it as it is too embarrassing to discuss with people face to face. Sometimes I can rant on about the tall dark and handsome thing a bit because I'm blond and blue eyed and far from "polished" looking and some days I feel less positive about it than others. Some days I'll be more positive about it if my skin is feeling cooler and think I look quite good but it really gets to me at times and I often wonder what things would be like if I was looking a lot different. The worst part for me is the dry skin and burning I have which never makes me feel quite right in myself, luckily I am seeing a specialist on that sometime.

Yes Tom Cruise is a very handsome guy but yeah that is his least attractive part for sure, but nobody is perfect. I can understand how people can be conscious of it because its stuck right in the middle of your face! For me my nose shape itself looks fine but the skin on it is often red and pigmented like my cheeks and I am drawn to that when I look in the mirror and I dislike that. But you are a model and stuff so you must generally have a great look and have quite sharp features to do that. And you can always aim to bulk up if you feel you are a bit skinny, you can change that!

I tend to forget at times that most people have insecurities of some kind so this is why I like posting here as I know there are people here who also have hang ups, even not solely on height. Alex is a regular poster on here and for some reason is interested in height and he's also on the higher side of '6 I think and like you or I, generally feels plenty tall enough in public. All I know is if you're anything like me its not your height that is mostly on your mind, that is a more positive thing for you really, but its some aspect of your appearance which leads you to think about how people look and be interested in things like height or physique and compare yourself to other people. I'm a bit obsessed with the idea of feeling "secure" and physically and mentally being as good and developed as you can possibly be, I'll admit that. Which I why I work out quite a bit and eat very healthily as I feel I am improving myself as I can set myself a goal with it but it bugs me that I can't change my face and colouring! I think its because there are so many people in the world its wanting to feel you are 100% as good as anybody else wherever you go. For me life is pointless if you can't strive to constantly improve yourself and achieve something. And where ever you go you'll always see a massive range of different looks and people living life from a completely different body and perspective. So that's why I tend to talk about darker people or/and very athletic and confident 6'4" guys as there are some people like that and I view that as looking more "secure" and as some sort of optimum when it comes to physical appearance and feeling very positive about it, not that their height is actually ideal compared to the general population which I'd agree with Greg on. And there are plenty of guys who are average or short in stature and good looking and should feel "secure" too and I'm sure there are a great number of average height blokes who feel very confident. It is difficult to explain but I'm sure some people here can understand a little on what I mean in regards to wanting to feel you are as good as anybody. Some things in life help put things in perspective for you and see that what you've got is actually quite good but I think for success it is vital you are overall quite comfortable in yourself and not think about it too much, even if there are certain things you wish you could change.

Henrik says on 2/Feb/12
Ikbob says on 1/Feb/12
@Henrik

About the Swedish average, something that I have noticed is that most men tend to fall in the average category around 180cm (177-183) putting most at average and less being short/tall. However when it comes to women I usually get astonished by how many tall women there are even with an average of 166cm. It always feels like there are loads of women in the 174-178 range on a regular basis. I don't really understand why there is such huge variation when it comes to swedish women. Have you also noticed this or is it just me?

I have felt something similar. I feel like women most of the time either are tall or shorter (like the beginning of 160cm). More rarely do they fall into the average range. I have also seen plenty of families where there's a lot of height gap (at least 15-20 cm) between the males and females.

Brian 6ft 4in says on 2/Feb/12
@Henrik, Danesh appears to be 6'3.5" - 6'4.5". His weight is more difficult guess. He doesn't seem to have a particularly large frame, so I would estimate him at 170 - 180.

@fricanman, agreed, that question is not fair. Assuming an average height of 5'9.5" and a standard deviation (SD) of 2.75", three SDs below the mean is 5'1.25"; this is the bottom .25% - .3% of all men. A 5' man would, of course, be well past 3 SDs below the mean, perhaps the bottom .1% or so? (At this point, the estimations become exceedingly difficult.)

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 2/Feb/12
@Fricanman I not going to disagree with what u said..I would just add that it becomes very difficult for guyz below 5ft to adjust themselves in this society...In my country India u would find loads of such guys..even in urban society..overall the male average is 5ft 5 and the female is 5ft.
This goes to show that height is an important factor which can't be ignored just like a trash..but at the same it is 'not a big thing' to be worried about.If u have made a good life for yourself nobody can harm or affect u..but yes in dating n all he would be a complete flop..!!

@Kristen..I think u again missed my post..!!

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 2/Feb/12
@Cindy..Yes for sure u will dominate him..and even 99.999% girls/women/ladies would give me the same answer.For girls i think the ideal height range is 5ft 5 to 5ft 9..so u r in my 'ideal' range..what is your view about girls much taller than u..say above 6ft...do u think they have trouble in dating if they are average looking..??

Pete Procrastinator says on 1/Feb/12
@MrKillerShrimp: Oops! Sorry mate! I think in Belgium your languages are Dutch, French and Flemish. BTW, Ieper (Ypres) is a lovely place. I visited the Flanders WW1 sites in 2008. I think we should thank the Belgians for the respect shown to 'the fallen'. Likewise in France. @Kristen: You're nearly right. The Norwegian Vikings settled in the NE Highlands, Orkneys & Shetlands. And in my experience, there are more fair-headed and tall there. The western islands I understand are predominately Gaels, but again in my experience, they're mostly a short people. There are conflicting views about the Picts, but where they were the inhabitants, there are lots of people with jet black hair, swarthy skin colour and elfin-shaped faces. Similarly Ireland has many with this appearance. My guess being that the Picts were generally very short, but with the mixing in later centuries, you will also see tall raven-haired people and short blonde people. In the south-west of Scotland were mainly Scots (who were actually from Ireland, like with the Gaels) and some Picts. In the south-east many were a mixture of Scots and Angles (ie. English). It is said that the Picts (being dark featured) are descended from the Lost Tribe of Israel (Thirteenth). Whether correct, or not, a great story.

Otis says on 1/Feb/12
I have a quick question guys, I'm 15 1/2 and about 179 cm tall. I really want to get to 185 but I'm not sure if I will make it.
My dad was 5'9 peak and my mum 5'7 but they both come out of rather poor families so I doubt my ancestors had ideal nutrition and grew to their potential.
I was quite a late bloomer, always the shortest, high pitched voice and so on.
Now I'm becoming manlier but I'm still behind my friends. Was anybody similiar/was the same height at my age? How tall did you end up?Do you think I'll reach 185?

Pete Procrastinator says on 1/Feb/12
@Cindy, and subsequently @CK, ask a valid question (IMO) about what is considered "short". And @Cindy's point (about our comments) got me thinking to be extra careful in what I state. @MD I accept your contribution re who's the tallest (Americans or Brits). I do think you might agree, that if present trends continue, the British will be the taller.

Brazilian Fellow 5ft11.25in says on 1/Feb/12
@Gaga.

Agreed. We think that it plays a huge role, because in fact, if you ask women whether they'd date a short guy, 50% of them will straight out answer NO. In reality, many of them hope "Mr. Right Guy" to have a good 6in on them, more due to social pressures than to anything else. Once your 5'9" girl whom rules anyone under 6ft out of her dating pool, realize that Mr. Right Guy is actually 5'4", she'll perhaps not even realize those 5in until someone asks whether he bought his ladder to reach her mouth. A clubber mate is one those persons. Last week, I saw the whole 5'10" frame of hers, holding hands with a 5'7" boy. He's not rich I reckon. Oh, and she'd some heels.

Raaj yadav says on 1/Feb/12
My height is 170cm. I live in india. Is it perfect? Am i too short?

Dmeyer says on 1/Feb/12
Thanks Jake , you are about perfect height

Gaga-183.2cm-185.1cm says on 1/Feb/12
Ok, fair enough, also i would like to thank you for responding to some of my kind of agressive posts with reasonable and humble arguments ;), we all have complexes, i do, i dont like my tom cruise nose, and some little thing only i can notice about myself, also sometimes i think i am too thin, but then i also think that i would probably be doing some of the things that i do if i hadnt my physique even with the things i dont like, same applies to any other aspect of ours, little things make everyone special or not, but at least define us some way.

Jazzy says on 1/Feb/12
I think he's like 6'3

CK says on 1/Feb/12
Kristen says on 30/Jan/12
@CK: The Canadian averages came from studies with older or somewhat older participants. There was a chart for the youngest adult Americans but there was no chart for the youngest adult Canadians. That's what made it confusing. Perhaps we have some Canadian posters who know more about it. Anway, you and Shrimpman both made excellent points about the reasons behind the decline of language skills. BTW, I could read that sentence of text gibberish. I'm bilingual. ;)
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Do you happen to know the exact age ranges for Canadians vs. Americans? And thanks for the compliments :) Oh, and I have a friend who actually writes text like that all the time, LOL. Really annoying.

tyshawn smith says on 30/Jan/12
hi my name is tyshawn smith iam a promisinig basketball guard iam 16 at the moment and iam 6 foot 1 my father is 6 foot 3 and i would like to end up somewhere between 190 to 193 so i can make it into the nba because height is an important factor please help!
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Eat right, exercise, increase protein in your diet or take a protein supplement, take a daily vitamin, some fish oil, and try to get at least 8 hours of sleep a night.

@Greg: Oh, so that explains it. I must say that was probably the longest post I've ever seen anyone write here.

James says on 1/Feb/12
Shaun says on 1/Feb/12
Darius actually strikes me as quite arrogant and a bit of a pretentious twit. I don't think he's perfect at all but he certainly has the sort of look I'd personally feel much happier with...

i thought he was the opposite?

Cindy says on 1/Feb/12
@xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms)- below 5ft? I dont think so. Im 167-168cm (5'6") so anything above that would be okay, but I dont think Id feel comfortable with someone shorter than me.

@jay- yeah you have a point, but most of those girls I mentioned actually think he's good looking. I honestly dont know what they see in him, and I definitely wouldnt date him just because he's a famous singer if I didnt think he was attractive. But there is women who go after men for their money, fame, power etc, so you are right.

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 1/Feb/12
@Larc-186.7cm-188.6cm What..girls taller than boys..that's quiet odd and rare.
When the situation moves to serious things such as matrimony..girls still lie..the thing is that people don't pay attention to height unless it comes to serious things such as marriage.
Tall girls here in India are quiet honest about their height..at least the one's which i have met...and the surely don't like guyz below 5ft 5.
U know ones in some private fashion show/party..they asked guys from the audience to volunteer for random disguise...and there was cash reward which was kept secret..One guy..he was about 6ft 3 was selected...he was quiet lanky..and when they asked him if he could dress up like a girl and walk the ramp...he agreed.
Within half an hour they got him ready..1st he had to wear indian saree..and then a western dress..i mean u need guts to do so..and he did...there were over 700 people..they were hoarding..screaming..whistling just to make fun of that guy..but he never paid a heed to what we were saying..he walked the ramp twice in two different dresses and he earned the price reward of $150..First i thought he was in need of money..later on i came to know that he was quiet a wealthy person..I can bet that not many guyz(including me) here on this site would prefer this for fun even if they r wealthy...What about u..??

Ikbob says on 1/Feb/12
@Henrik

About the Swedish average, something that I have noticed is that most men tend to fall in the average category around 180cm (177-183) putting most at average and less being short/tall. However when it comes to women I usually get astonished by how many tall women there are even with an average of 166cm. It always feels like there are loads of women in the 174-178 range on a regular basis. I don't really understand why there is such huge variation when it comes to swedish women. Have you also noticed this or is it just me?

fricanman says on 1/Feb/12
@xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 1/Feb/12
@Cindy Would u ever date a man below 5ft..??

Is that even a fair question? No-one could be that sure of anything just based on height! You would have to meet someone in that bracket and then make the call.
The other thing is how often would @Cindy even meet a guy under 5' - if ever. I just did a check of this site and with almost 5300 celebheights listed, there appear to be around thirty or so listings between 5' and 5'3" that's low and around what you might expect statistically. Even if the standard deviation (SD) was as high as 4" (its usually around 2.8") male height below 5' would be way outside 2xSD from an average of 5'9" making it exceedingly rare. Yeah, I know a lot of people say the average is higher but that just makes sub-5' males even rarer.
Finally, I know that, personally, a woman's height is NEVER a deal-breaker one way or the other.

Shaun says on 1/Feb/12
Darius actually strikes me as quite arrogant and a bit of a pretentious twit. I don't think he's perfect at all but he certainly has the sort of look I'd personally feel much happier with...

Shaun says on 1/Feb/12
@ Gaga. He's not under 6'4". I weigh about 195 pounds currently and am trying to get some abs! I measure a 33 waist now. When did I say I have a perfect body?? I said I like to keep in shape as I feel better when I look in the mirror and am naturally quite big framed anyway and find I'm very responsive to weight training, but far from the tub of lard I think you think I am. You strike me as jealous of guys who weigh around 200 pounds for some reason. Dark, cleancut good looks are far from what I 've got and that's why I cite somebody like him as more of an ideal and also because he looks good at 6'4" and doesn't look awkward. No I don't need to be any taller or bigger framed to feel any better! As I said I prefer the lean muscle look rather than the bulky muscle look but my natural body type is one who is bulkier.

Larc-186.7cm-188.6cm says on 1/Feb/12
@xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms):
People tend to do the same also here in Italy...they add at least a couple of inches to their real height, and I'm not talking about short people, they are clearly average or even above average sometimes.

When I choose a girl, I don't care at all about her height (anywhere between 5'0 and 5'11 is pretty good to me).

I've noticed that women are more honest about their height, in fact some of them (especially the very tall ones) hide their true height.
Speaking about Italy, girls seems taller than boys here, (at least where I live), but that happens maybe because there are a lot of foreign women.

Henrik says on 1/Feb/12
Well, this Darius Danesh seems more than four inches taller than his girlfriend/wife Natasha Henstridge, who is supposedly a weak 5'10":

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kurp182.5 says on 1/Feb/12
@ J.C. Parker
He'd be almost 5'10 which would make you pretty much an inch taller, so you would feel that you're very similar in height.
I'm 6'0" and my friend is 5'9". When he wears 1.3inch trainers and I am barefoot, I feel barely taller than him If we're not standing right next to each other.

Gaga-183.2cm-185.1cm says on 1/Feb/12
Also i know a guy who is legit 6'4 and darius danesh body type and claims 165lbs, he is thin like dariush but he is 6'4 and dariush isnt, so you tell his weight...

Gaga-183.2cm-185.1cm says on 1/Feb/12
Sorry, shaun, but i think you are wrong with dariush danesh, you always talk about him and comment on how perfect looking he is, but you always say how insane it is to be around 150lb at 6ft wich i am, but that supposed 6'4 guy you always talk about, who is clearly 6'2, is not over 170lbs, as he looks to be around my height -weight ratio, but he is 2 in taller, 3 max, and an adult over 30, so...he might have a 33in waist, but overall he is a skinny guy for sure, idk why are you on him so much when you ussually comment on how perfect your body is at 6'1.5 and 205lb, or on how good muscular 6'4 guys look....but at the same time you always comment on how good this 6'2-6'3 175lb max guy looks. I agree his body looks good, long and smart, just like models but a lil bigger, but it doesntrelate to other guys you idolatre, so maybe you should lern not only to tell height but also weight man, because any guy over 200lbs, no matter his height( maybe it does at over 6'5) looks too big and buff if he is muscular and too fat if he is not, so check some real people's weight and compare, not only yours, because your own perception might be skewed. My father weights 190lb at almost 6ft and i consider him a big person, wide shoulders, arms, bones and all, but he told me that at his peak, when he was extremely fit without all the belly fat he has now, he weighted 165lbs( that time he was in the armyas a volunteer)and in the photos he still looks like a big person at 6ft and 165 lbs without any belly fat, didnt look long like darius danesh, but i do look long at 6f at a lil less than 150lbs. Also for the record the biggest person i know his real measurements is a 6'5.5 250lbs guy, and even with his impressive frame, arms and legs, if he cut off all of his belly fat, wich is quite a bit, he told me the doctor said he would weight around 205 lbs, wich for his frame would be perfect, and his frame i tell you is enourmous.

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 1/Feb/12
@Cindy Would u ever date a man below 5ft..??

J.C. Parker says on 1/Feb/12
Hey Rob... how would i FEEL around a 5ft 9.25 in guy (176 cm) if im a little more than 5ft 11, like 181 cm, if he´s with vans sneakers on and im barefoot?
thanks

Mr-KILLER-SHRIMP says on 31/Jan/12
Pete Procrastinator thanks for complimenting me on my English skills, but I'm not a Dutchman, I'm from Belgium. People speak Dutch there too :-) .

jake, 1.82 m- 1.83 m- 1.84 m says on 31/Jan/12
Dmeyer, if I were you I'd certainly claim 5ft 11.5, that's more than fair I think as it's your normal low.

avi says on 31/Jan/12
@xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 31/Jan/12
@avi..Well if u ask me..In this particular pic u look 2in max taller than him.
The person on the left is standing absolutely straight..and u have bit relaxed posture..so that can make him look slightly taller..also your hair style is making it slightly difficult to see where his top of the head is reaching if compared to your forehead..since u r taller than him and u saw him live..if u r able to make out that u r 3in taller than him..then i don't think u r wrong..!!

ha thanks. the good news is many people dont appear to have as much height(at best same amount) on me as i do on him. which makes sense as 6'2-6'3 range is last common tall range. This is why i think it must be misleading in photos as in real life i have almost 3 inches on him (he has shoe advantage of .5-.6 inch (1.5 inch heels on and mine are barely .6 or .7 and 5 years old). Sorry didn't clarify that! so a strong 2.5 inches would be plausible being i am lax and major shoe disadvantage... also my head stops where my hair is dude it isnt spiked up. at most it give .1 inch or 1/8 inch TOP. thanks

Kristen says on 31/Jan/12
@Maddy: Perhaps you could change your user name to Miss Maddy to avoid future confusion. ;) If the other Maddy was a guy, he probably wondered why I replied like I did.

@Fricanman: I agree with most of what you posted. Like you, I believe both nature and nurture play roles in determining outcomes. I suppose their roles can vary in indivdual lives since experiences can be so different for everyone. However, I might place more emphasis on the role that genes play in determining such traits as height and IQ. All things being equal, I think genes give a significant edge to certain individuals. I also think IQ tests are often accurate measures of intelligence and other traits, such as future income, occupation etc. Many studies show this to be true. If I had my way, they would just be meaningless tests, but I can't dispute the facts.

@Pete: Could it be that more Gaels and Scandinavians settled in the Highlands, making that region taller? I assume that people from the islands tend to be taller too. Of course, like you said, population movement between and within countries change the statistics so that regional differences can't be so readily delineated.

Jules says on 31/Jan/12
This site is quite amusing I have to say - never gave much thought to peoples height untill I recently started to notice some celebs 'increase' their listing on profile's

Generally though people really are REALLY BAD at estimating / guessing other people's heights so surely this is to blame for the inaccuracies most of the time? If I had a Euro (no Nickels or Dime's here in Belgium:-) for every time some guy in the gym says 'yeah I'm like 1.88 ' when he's clearly not taller than me...LOL. I had myself 'stadiomeasured' for our basketball team and was surprized I was 'just' 1.84

Guess that it's just human to 'overestimate'....

french dude says on 31/Jan/12
lol, this study is non-sense, danish men who were born in 76-80 are one inch taller than 70-75....
And according to conscription youth in demark averaging 180-180,5 cm.
And it's 179,5-180 for young norwegian.
But, i read that norwegian people just grew of one centimeter in 20 years.

Gaga-183.2cm-185.1cm says on 31/Jan/12
IMO all of us have a height obssesion, due to some personal experiences or coyuntural situations, but being realistic, not even a height like 5'6 is that short, i would say when down to 5'4 you would appear too short to the average person and short to the average girl, but see way too many guys that height that have a life, so height is not even close to a determinant factor of success, not even half of my college teachers reach 178, wich is supposed to be average, but, in random circumstances it might appear height is related with success, as it happens in my neighbourhood, wich is a upper middle class and half of them reach 6'1 but none of them is over 6'4, and none is under 5'10, so in a 32 families upper middle class bussinesmen neighbourhood with an adult male
average height around 6'1, it might seem there is some height segregation, but i dont think this cases are common enough to make a relation between height and success, not even in finding a partner, if 70% of the adult population is having a love relationship, it's not like the 30% is under 5'8, i see the same number of 5'8 guys with girlsfriends as i see 6 footers.

Triplescrew says on 31/Jan/12
@Shaun

Hmm I dunno that guy does look like he is 6'2" so maybe his claim is correct? I know he's leaning but he looks barely taller than I do next to a 5'2" person (who I'm a full head taller than).

I'm guessing America is 5'3" in those heels and he looks to have about 11 inches on her so I'd say strong 6'2" is reasonable for him.

There's a pic on Jared Padalecki's page of what a true strong 6'4" looks like next to a 5'0" girl haha.

mike says on 31/Jan/12
In my opinion its all about how you carry yourself if you have a presence about you most likely you will be percieved bigger. I am just at a hair under 5'10. And only a few people have called me short or average. most times people think im like 6'. My younger brother is a solid 6'1,5 and said once you use foot instead of feet to discribe your height, thats the imaginary line between tall and average.

CK says on 31/Jan/12
Cindy says on 31/Jan/12
Guys, you've got to stop saying stuff like 'below 5'9" for men is short' and 'below 5'4" for women is short'. Thse are the approximate average heights for both genders! No wonder people on here are starting to feel as if they have nothing to live for if they are shorter than that.
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Well personally I agree with you, I also think below 5'7" is short for a male but nowadays it seems the general public considers anything below average height as short. That's why I said once you drop below 5'9", many people will still consider you short but maybe it's because so many people are lying about their height and its giving people a distorted view? Are they seeing 5'7" guys and thinking they're 5'9"? I find my height of 5'8" to be a very confusing height tbh... I mean just reading the height charts people post here, it seems we can't agree whether 5'8" is average, weak average, shortish, short or whatever. I use to call myself short all the time a few years back, and I'd get responses like, "you're not that short" from friends and family members etc, so I'm asking what am I then?

tom234 says on 31/Jan/12
what do you reckon the absolute perfect height is for a man and a women is? i believe it is this:

men-191cm in the morning/190cm afternoon
women-174cm in the morning/173cm afternoon

i am 188cm morning so i reckon around 6'3 is perfect for a man and 5'8 for a woman. what do you guys think?

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 31/Jan/12
As i said earlier 6ft has not been given the respect it demands here on this site and i don't think that will change...a legit 6ft is tall by all means..there is no way u can say that its not tall..a legit 6ft guy can getaway by claiming upto 6ft 2 atleast 7 out of 10 times..even if u c this site rob has listed many 6ft 11.5-6ft celebrities at least an inch or an inch and a half higher than their actual height.
@others Guyz try this..specially those who r above 6ft..stand 'barefoot' on pavement or anything else which is more than 4in tall heightwise..don't bend down your face..look straight then just look down to the floor..its not something which we don't know but it can give a close idea about how u would feel if u were that tall.
FE I stood barefoot on a 4.5in tall pavement..i was 6ft 5.5 and felt 'MEGA' tall..i could make out that there was quiete a good difference between my height and that height..guyz plz try this and tell me your experiences by comparing the difference u felt between your actual height and that height..i m sure it would have some effect on your perspective and the definition of tallness....!!

jay says on 31/Jan/12
Cindy says on 31/Jan/12
So, if Justin Bieber can get the girls, then I have no doubt yall can ;)
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yeahhh im pretty sure not evryone has the luxary of being one of the best known singers in the world...that might help just alittle canceling out the height factor...

jay says on 31/Jan/12
Shaun says on 31/Jan/12
@Greg

I agree that 6' is more moderate in height compared to 5'2"-5'4" women but I don't think a well built 6'4" range can also look good in comparison and not awkward although i do know some gangly guys at that range who look too tall.

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Darius Danesh is at least 6'4", probably 6'4.5" and American Ferrara is 5'0 but in heels. He manages to make the height difference look less extreme and although he's not a buff guy I think he looks very good at the size he is.

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thats because hes hunching over quite a bit, if he should straight up, itd prob look extreme

Chameleon says on 31/Jan/12
Shaun thats odd he is supposed to look way taller then that next to her o.O

MaskDeMasque says on 31/Jan/12
@SAK

the girls that go on that show are not girls you'd want to take out, unless by take me out implies with a shotgun.

Henrik says on 31/Jan/12
Wait a second, even the average for people born in the beginning of the 1960s was 181cm.

Henrik says on 31/Jan/12
@Adrian: The average height of an adult Swedish male is 5'10'', so it's safe to say your perception of height is very accurate; I have not looked at the percentile chart for Swedes, but one inch above average is usually at the 65th percentile, so you'd be taller than about 2/3 guys you see.

Now some people might say, "5'10'' is average for just the older people" just like they say "5'9'' is average for older people in the U.K/U.S." I've heard a lot of people on this site say things like this. This is simply an inaccurate observation. 5'10'' is the average overall for adult Swedish men, 5'9'' is the average overall in the U.K. and the U.S. Older people would average under these figures. You cannot discount the average on the basis that it only refers to older people, because it doesn't refer to just older people, it refers to everyone. 5'10'' is the average height of an adult male in Sweden, so you would definitely feel tallish there at 5'11'', Adrian.

A young person is most likely going to be around persons of similar ages, so that is why it's more logical to go by the average for the same generation(s). It works kind of similar to how I do not compare ethnic Swedes to people who have other, significantly different, backgrounds than Swedish. The average for persons born in 1976-1980 was also about the same as it is for aged 20-30 people of today:

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So I would reckon that a young adult would have to be around significantly older people to "feel taller" when compared to the 5'11.5" (181cm) average.

SAK says on 31/Jan/12
I found this article quite interesting. Its about the 5ft4 Joe Mcelderry a singer who won UK X Factor 2009. The article is tad bit harsh.

If you are already down about your lack of height, i dont think it'll be advisable to read the article.

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Ironically, Joe since then has come out as gay, so it doesn't matter if females think hes too short.

fricanman says on 31/Jan/12
@Kirsten, @CK et al, I think the "Canada height" issue probably stems from research by our old chum, Richard Steckel. His paper around 2005 noted that Canadians born since 1970 had continued to grow (averaging ~5'10") while height among our American cousins of the same age had plateaued at 5'9". My understanding is that height for ALL Canadians still trails US slightly. See article with lots of other stuff we have mentioned on the site here Click Here
As to nature v nurture for height, IQ etc. Stating that everything is determined by genetics is very dangerous territory. If everything was "genetically fixed" like that we would still be midget apes dragging our knuckles across the African Savannah! The offspring is not just the sum of the parental parts, that's how we change over time. However, I think it is true to say that genetics set the boundaries of some development, the rest is up to environment. That is everyone has physical and aptitudinal optimums within their genes and whether these are achieved depends upon an optimal environment at key times in the development process. For example a young child in a multilingual environment learns languages almost by osmosis, regardless of education, as this is the time when language-learning is at it's peak in humans. Similarly good nutrition, exercise etc. at key times in development will lead to optimal physical development such as height. In this scenario a well nourished person with "small" genes could easily outgrow a poorly nourished "tall" genes person.
I'm a little more dubious about genetics & intelligence (I personally place no stock in IQ testing and have never been tested). Too often in history "geniuses" have arisen from the most apparently mundane families and backgrounds and their ideas have often left many of their contemporaries baffled. However, I can concede statistical links between 'IQ' and height because it is logical. Those who achieve their optimum development will, based on what I said already, have had all the environmental advantages. In the modern world the best fed are usually the best educated! Of course there will always be those that buck this kind of general trend.

tom234 says on 31/Jan/12
i think i measured myself at 188cm as soon as i woke up. how tall would you expect me to be in the afternoon? i would say around 186cm-187cm.

Shaun says on 31/Jan/12
Funnily though Darius Danesh seems to detest being the height he is and claims to be 6'2"!! So maybe he does feel too tall and awkward!

Shaun says on 31/Jan/12
@Greg

I agree that 6' is more moderate in height compared to 5'2"-5'4" women but I do think a well built 6'4" range can also look good in comparison and not awkward although i do know some gangly guys at that range who look too tall.

Click Here

Darius Danesh is at least 6'4", probably 6'4.5" and American Ferrara is 5'0 but in heels. He manages to make the height difference look less extreme and although he's not a buff guy I think he looks very good at the size he is.

Shaun says on 31/Jan/12
@Greg

I agree that 6' is more moderate in height compared to 5'2"-5'4" women but I don't think a well built 6'4" range can also look good in comparison and not awkward although i do know some gangly guys at that range who look too tall.

Click Here

Darius Danesh is at least 6'4", probably 6'4.5" and American Ferrara is 5'0 but in heels. He manages to make the height difference look less extreme and although he's not a buff guy I think he looks very good at the size he is.

Maddy (the real one ;o)) says on 31/Jan/12
Hi Kristen, that new Maddy wasn't me. Obviously Maddy is an often used name on the net ;o)
I still check this site, but wasn't in the mood to enter the discussion ;o)
Keep up the interesting themes! I enjoy them alot!

Greets
Maddy

klem says on 31/Jan/12
@Dean

I would be 100% happy with anything between 184-186 cm at night, so let say strong 185cm at night.

The Karl says on 31/Jan/12
@CK -- I always figure 5-7 or below is short for a guy, 6-1 and up is tall. Six inches in between is the normal height range, I would bet 90 percent of men fall in that range. 5-4 is really short, and 6-4 is really tall. Balances out evenly.

xyz.reg(185.4cms-186.9cms) says on 31/Jan/12
@avi..Well if u ask me..In this particular pic u look 2in max taller than him.
The person on the left is standing absolutely straight..and u have bit relaxed posture..so that can make him look slightly taller..also your hair style is making it slightly difficult to see where his top of the head is reaching if compared to your forehead..since u r taller than him and u saw him live..if u r able to make out that u r 3in taller than him..then i don't think u r wrong..!!

Cindy says on 31/Jan/12
Guys, you've got to stop saying stuff like 'below 5'9" for men is short' and 'below 5'4" for women is short'. Thse are the approximate average heights for both genders! No wonder people on here are starting to feel as if they have nothing to live for if they are shorter than that.

So if 5'8" is 'short', why isnt 5'10" 'tall, huh? Because both those heights also fall into average. You are all just thinking what seems to be short in terms of numbers, as we always hear these days about 'tall 6ft plus guys' so we automatically assume anything less isnt enough.

Before you post your net comments about what is short and what is tall, just take a look around the streets and see how different everyone is, and at the fact that it isnt just the really tall guys who get the hot girls, but in fact most of the guys on the shorter side too.

If you think you have a problem with your height and obsessing so much about it that it interferes with your everyday life, then obviously, your probem is much bigger and you need to ask yourself why this is so important.

Especially if you are a perfectly acceptable height of 5'7-5'9. Below that, I understand you would feel like your height is a problem, but you still shouldnt let that fact control your life, when you must have so many other good things going for you.

Just look at Justin Bieber- he a short, baby-faced teenager and half the girls & women in the world are crazy about him. He's not even good looking, and my best friend, who on a 1-10 scale is a 9, absolutely loves him, and says she wants to find someone just like him :|

So, if Justin Bieber can get the girls, then I have no doubt yall can ;)

Pete Procrastinator says on 30/Jan/12
@Stephane Being "short" is *no* reason to be suicidal. Your problem will be extremely low self-esteem irrespective of your height, which comes from within and originates from your early childhood. Do consider some counselling. PS: I knew a man of somewhere round 4ft 10in. He served very bravely as a rear gunner throughout WW2 and used to just laugh at his shortness. He was a bigger man than I ever was! @MrKillerShrimp You, a Dutchman, write impeccable English. And I think you're right: some cannot; others cannot be bothered! @Kristen I believe the Highlanders, and also the Borderers, were significantly taller on average than the Lowlanders. It's not so clear-cut now, as a great many emmigrated (hence lots of tall North Americans, eg. actor James Stewart), but many or most left farming/crofting for jobs in the Lowland towns & cities. Hence I suppose those pockets of much variance. Yes, there are lots of Scottish females, including young women, who are just under 5ft. I would say the 'modal' height for 20somethings is around 5ft 5in though. There are also many up to say 5ft 7in, but after that not many. Over 6ft is very rare. Add 5 inches and you can see the men's equivalent heights. Do note these are what I call 'rounded-up' ('rising') heights. They're also my perception, not based on actual scientific data. Over to you...

jake, 1.82 m- 1.83 m- 1.84 m says on 30/Jan/12
So Sean you're virtually conceding that you're more likely 179.5 cm at the end of the day? That's only about a cm more than what you get with the aerosol method. I'd guess you're in between the two measurements and are 179 cm.

MD says on 30/Jan/12
Pete Procrastinator,

To be clear, Americans are slightly taller when the entire population is taken into account, but the UK (England) and American heights for the younger generations is equal: 177.6 cm. There is no case in which the British are taller if the stats are to be believed. And, when you take just take the younger generations of white and black Americans (and, I do this simply because both have been in the country so long that the heights would be similar as opposed to more recent hispanic immigrant families), they average is 178 cm or above.

Just wanted to make this clear, because I keep seeing people thinking the British measure taller, which simply isn't the case.