Jim says on 13/May/08
This is something I have been wondering but I can't seem to get an answer on.

When you give your height are you talking with or without shoes on?????

I looked at Obama's and Jim Carrey's height and they are about as tall as me and to me they look so much taller.

Ever since I was in grade school we always got out height with our shoes on even when I went in for a physical at the doctors. Never once was it without shoes. So it's like everyone I know gives there height with shoes on I figured but maybe I'm wrong.

Just wondering when people say that a celebrity is 6-1 for instance do they mean with or without shoes?

Thanks

Jim

Jim says on 13/May/08
Irishguy and PaulG

There is I'm sure a lot of girls on the dating sites that you would not want to date! But I have had some family members and girls I knew growing up that use them that are pretty and nice girls. They just don't like the bar scene and other ways of dating.

The girls I saw looked like you would see on average at any bar or whatever. Try a search out for yourself you will see what I mean.

The girls I searched I screened for being overweight...maybe I shouldn't have done that I'm thin so I just always use that screen.

As far as the 42% of girls wanting a guy to be 5-9 or above remember this is ALL girls! Meaning that out of that 42% a good number of the girls are 5-9 or above. So if you just searched the girls that were say 5-6 or below it probably works out that 80% of them are ok with a guy that is 5-9.

I don't see anything wrong with a girl wanting a guy of at least equal height. Also if you guys are trying to date girls that are 4 inches taller than you, you know that your odds are probably lower than if you dated a girl that was 4 inches shorter.

I wish I could make all of you guys over 6 foot for at least a week and I think you would see it's not what you may think that it is. Also I think it's kind of funny that people fret over this. Since gradeschool my shorter buddies always did WAY better with girls than me. In my life and in my experiences being shorter might be a disadvantage in putting in lightbulbs but certainly not in getting girls.

Wantingtobe6foot

I wanted to know if you are 5-9 barefoot or in shoes??

Because if you are 5-9 barefoot I would think most people would consider that 5-10. Now growing up watching guys that were 5-5 -5-7 sleep with HUNDREDS of girls I hardly think someone 5-9 is at a disadvantage!!!!!!!!

Also you should never feel you don't deserve your girlfriend because of your height!!!! That is not right!! What if a 6 foot guy dated her and cheated on her??? If you are true to her you deserve her every bit and you would even if you were 5-5.

I had short friends and tall friends and the only time we ever made fun of a guy's height is if he was starting crap. Like we were at a bar when one of my buddies who is about 5-6 starts shoving strangers around and we told him to knock it off before he gets his measly little butt kicked.

With girls I have heard them rip on a guys height when a guy acts all macho and wears muscle shirts and acts like a jerk. The girls I hung out with would rip on those type of guys.

But if guys give you a hard time at work I doubt it's because you are 5-9!! I mean I'm out in public a LOT and I see hundreds of 5-9 guys it's not like you are some freak!

Jim

Jim

5'8 height says on 13/May/08
I totally agree with you Paul. My game hurts being a bit on the short side; however, I have a six pack. I have a v-shape body. I weigh 160. I'm going to medical school next year. Im also 50/50 asian/white, which gives me a cute look as girls would say. However, cute looks don't go that far, just like how height doesn't get you that far.

I realized that, and worked on the flirting game, the confidence game, the success game, the smart game. Basically. Everything. And I have had no problems with the women. I have had issues of respect though. However, if you project that you're comfortable with yourself, and give off a confidence aura of being in control of yourself and your life. Then taller men will respect you. There are some douschebags who think that since they are a few inches taller means they are better then you.

I work on that to. Body, Abs, Muscle, and practicing MMA consistently. Now people don't look down on me. I don't plan on getting in a fight one of these days. But the respect issue goes a long way. Everything goes a long way. Work on everything!

morning-6ft says on 12/May/08
im realising that people of average height who have a height complex,have much deeper issues, probably to do with a fear of lack of attention or respect,they are just very insecure by nature,there are many 5'9 men out there who have probably never thought about the 'averageness'of their height or just are not bothered because they are very secure with themselves and have the confidence to know they can succeed in life regardless.

Britt says on 12/May/08
I think that usually shorter than average parents, have shorter than average children. I am 5'2 1/2 and my dad is 5'5 1/2, and my mom is 5'3 1/2.

Alex says on 12/May/08
Question for you, this is pretty rare but how many people have you come upon who actually say they are shorter than they really are, either because they think they are shorter or just downgrade themselves on purpose. I've come upon people like that before but only a couple or so. Sometimes its fun to downgrade then other people may feel shorter than they really are, haha.

Alex says on 12/May/08
Lilo, I'm 6'0 but I don't really wish to be any taller. Actually I wouldn't mind at all being 5'11 since I kinda feel that ideal height for me.

WantingToBe6FT says on 12/May/08
"RobertJ says on 12/May/08
Wanttobe6feet has the same complex with his height as some men do with there penis size, there race or not being good looking."

Most likely very true, I have complexes not only about height, but other things as well (balding, BDD, penis size, skin complexion, etc)

RobertJ says on 12/May/08
Wanttobe6feet has the same complex with his height as some men do with there penis size, there race or not being good looking.

mcr says on 12/May/08
Lillo is right, being 5"9 is not a big deal at all it is average height I know plenty of guys shorter than that who don't seem to dwell on their height. If you think other guys don't have much respect for you it's probably more due to your attitude than your height because I don't think many people place THAT much importance on height and 5"9 is not short. Not many people are ever completely happy with themselves but even if you'd like to gain a couple of inches (or lose a couple in my case) there's no point beating yourself up about something like height.

There's a million worse things that could be wrong with you, in fact there's nothing wrong with you. You say you've got a beautiful girlfriend, your health and the opportunity to go to college - you should count your blessings and get on with life rather than worry about your height, especially when your average height to start with

lillo thomas says on 12/May/08
Wanttobe6feet you got to be kidding me . You are 5-9 in the average height range and you feel bad because you aren't 6feet ? You got a beautiful girlfriend you said and you complaint ? Do you know that some straight guys in the world die without having girlfriends in their life ? Because different reasons ? And others that have few girlfriends in their life ? ( I'm in this club Like I said many times here before I'm 6-5 and average looking but don't get girls as often as I would like to ) Trust me If you were 6 feet you would feel bad because you aren't 6-4 or bigger . Do you know how many guys like you that are 6-0 tall complaint that they aren't 6-3 or 6-4 on this site ? Jeez . If you ask me I would trade several inches of my height with more luck with woman .

Davey says on 12/May/08
WantingToBe6FT get over it or go and do Limb Lengthening.If you keep dwelling on it and dont make a decision it will lead to depression my friend,So make a decision now.

James says on 12/May/08
I am sure its just your imagination when you think people are taller than you because remember your eyes are not on the top of your head lol.

Brah says on 12/May/08
"i have narrow shoulders,this can look me shorter or taller?"

If you have narrow shoulders, that makes you look shorter. Some automatically think if you are really skiny, that makes them look taller. That is not necessarily the case. Someone who is skinny with narrow shoulders and a big head looks shorter. Example: David Cook on American Idol
If you are skinny with a small head and broader shoulders, you look taller.

Just A Guy says on 12/May/08
Guys, do you think i'm insecure? I'm over 6ft tall, my dad thinks i'm like 1.88-90. I have a friend who is 5'11, could be 5'11.5 and i'm taller than him. I have a friend who is 5'10(could have grown since) and I remember the top of his head reaching my eyes. But I feel short and when i'm near guys who are pretty tall I feel small. I walked past a guy who had to be like 6'4 and I wasn't that shorter than him. I think it has something to do with my weight, i'm 6-8 kg overweight and have terrible posture and by evening I think i lose like an inch in height. But after riding my mountain bike for half an hour or more I feel taller and my posture improves I think.

Man I have issues...

WantingToBe6FT says on 12/May/08
Alex says on 12/May/08
WantingToBe6FT, 5'9 is a decent height. Pretty much average for guys in the USA. Why do you wanna be 6'0 so much?

I know what you mean, but decent just doesn't cut it for me usually. For me, it's more a respect/intimidation factor. I already have a beautiful girlfriend...now I'd just like to feel that I deserve her. When I walk my college halls I see guys that are 6ft+ every day, and I know they look down upon me. Same thing with the gym, guys will say stuff. Not only that, but the guys at my work that are 6ft and over are the ones who get respect, I'm usually taken for a joke. The saddest part is that I know it's something I'll HAVE to live with every day of my life. This isn't something that can be changed easily, whereas working out and getting bigger (which is something I do) or losing weight, CAN be obtained.

Don't get me wrong, I do feel blessed to even be able to be 5'9", since my dad is 5'6" and my mom is 5'5", it's just a rough life.

Alex says on 12/May/08
WantingToBe6FT, 5'9 is a decent height. Pretty much average for guys in the USA. Why do you wanna be 6'0 so much?

Anon2008 says on 12/May/08
Yes ryan! But, if you read the article, it has you measuring your arms not flexed, so maybe adding two inches is what the arms would measure if you did flex them?

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irishguy says on 12/May/08
Jim:
"Out of 100 women..
..42 required that a guy be 5-9 or above.

Also it proves what I have been telling people and what I have noticed as a 6 foot guy.....height doesn't matter to women very much."

Sorry but if anything the fact that 42% of women don't want guys under 5'9 (40% of male population) proves that height is important.

WantingToBe6FT says on 11/May/08
Davey says on 9/May/08
WantingToBe6FT how tall are you?


5'9"

Chris says on 11/May/08
Rob,i've read the FAQ but i still can't understand something.Are all these celebheights rather morning or evening ones.I know u cant tell me exactly but i would be glad if u give me a clue cause there is almost an inch difference with some people.Thanks.

ryan says on 11/May/08
anon2008 are u serious man LOL

Jordan says on 11/May/08
Piraino, black guys cant average 6'3, that would be too high. I will say that the African Americans here in PA seem taller than 5'10 on average
though......maybe 5'11 to 6'1. I hardly see a Black guy that is lower than 5'11 in PA. WHen i was in Queens it was diffrent though...there i could belive 5'10 for average.

PaulG says on 11/May/08
okay... i think you guys are all right talking about women and height and what have you.
TO JIM and all the other guys who are really saddening me by thinking their height is an obstacle to meeting women :
2 things:
1) women that are on dating sites are there for a reason... they can't get dates !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as simple as that !!!!!!! so a woman who can't get dates is not going to be (very) selective about who she goes out with... that said, i'm sure if she finds a 5ft9 guy and 6ft guy with same attractiveness, humor, intelligence, etc.... SHE WILL MOST LIKELY PICK THE 6ft GUY !!!!!!!!
same thing goes for guys... if you have 2 girls and one have bigger boobs, or nice legs, assuming every thing else is the same GUYS WILL MOST LIKELY PICK THE ONE WITH THE BIGGER BOOBS!!!!!
I mean come on there is no question women prefer taller guys, but the gist of the matter is, luckily, there are other things that matter as well!!!

2) i want to emphasize on the "other things that matter as well", if i were 5ft8-9-10, this is what i would do (read this very well, there is really good advice in there):
* first date women who accept my height as decent, you already lost the battle if the woman is so superficial that she doesn't even think that your height is okay for her (fortunately that's very very few women).
* work on my body and get bigger, stronger, more defined, more cut, nice abs and V-tape shape.
* concentrate on my humor and intelligence, try to be the funny guy, the smart guy, the good guy, etc...
* concentrate on my career, making money, girls want to be with a guy who has his **** together, so BE THAT GUY!!!!
* okay this last one is kind of a random one, but try to work on your "sexual prowess", it's not hard to sleep with a girl one time, but if you want a steady and continuous flow of sex with hot women (and that's what every guy wants i presume), get good at it (even if it's with an average chick initially)...

Hope that helps....
Paul

sven says on 11/May/08
hey some tip to look taller?For example wear dark clothes...
i have narrow shoulders,this can look me shorter or taller?

Teh Pwn says on 11/May/08
"need some answer says on 10/May/08
im 16(male) and only 5.45. i used to quite a short kid before but then i grew about 3 inches in 2 years(from 14- 16). can anyone tell me till what age does an average male grow? and wat exact age is the most difference seen?
share some experience pls."

i think there are a few possibilities, either you arent getting the right diet for optimal growth, you aren't getting good sleep, or its just in your genes. Seems like you haven't had a "real" full fledged growth spurt, because I know most boys will get at least a spurt of 10cm(is that about 3 inches?) in a year once.

Well, if you could do anything about it, its probably to drink more milk(calcium supplements if you're lactose intolerant), sleep at least a full undisturbed 8 hours a day, and get outdoors and pick up a sport (exercise stimulates the release of growth hormones). But alas, if these still don't work, then i guess your DNA would know why.

Klem says on 11/May/08
mr. blue says on 10/May/08
Anybody noticed that Nike (the Clothing Company) writes Heights to each Sizes?
There exist Adult men & women sizes, children sizes and even baby sizes.
But i only know the adult man heights to the clothing sizes from the brand nike:
(Small, Medium, Large, Extralarge and Extraextralarge):
S = 5'8 (173 cm)
M = 5'10 (178 cm)
L = 6'0 (183 cm)
XL = 6'2 (188 cm)
XXL = 6'4 (193 cm)

I noticed that, i have a few shirts from nike that are L and fit well i am 181-182cm, but i have a bigger upper body compared to legs.

Mcr says on 11/May/08
Similar question to 'needsomeanswer' but on average when do most guys stop growing? I've heard anything from 18 to 21 and even 25 but no definitive answer. I know everybody grows at different rates but I'm not sure of the average.

Just wondering because I think I'm still growing at 18 and a half and 6"4.5. It's weird though because at 15 I was only about 5"8/9 and there was a lot of guys I know who were taller than me but now there's no one.

I think what some of you were saying earlier on about sons height correlating with their mothers might be quite accurate. My dad is about 5"7 and my mum 5"10 so I definitely take after my mum. Same with my brother, his dad is a little taller though and he's around 6"1. He also had a very late growth spurt - in fact my mum took him to the hospital to get him checked out when he was 14 or so because he was so short compared to the rest of his peers. Weird

Alex says on 11/May/08
Being tall really doesn't get you girls but can help a bit if a girl tends to like much taller guys. I've known some girls who prefer guys 6'2 plus.

Anon2008 says on 11/May/08
can someone tell me something about measuring arms, i was looking at a men's fitness article and it mentioned: "STEP 4: Record the number. Then add two inches to it when you tell your friends. (It's standard protocol.)"

So you are supposed to add two inches? Like what a lot of celebrities do to their height except it's with arms?

Davey says on 11/May/08
at the end of the only women i see who care about height are the really short ones like eva longoria types who i think want a tall man to correct there own genetic short comings because they are so insecure about themselves.

Davey says on 11/May/08
at the end of the only women i see who care about height are the really short ones who i think want a tall man to correct there own genetic short comings.

TELLEM says on 10/May/08
i'm amazed at how many ppl (typically men) here say their 6 ft. or over...i'm 5 ft. 8 and i'm fine with it as i don't consider myself short. i consider myself average. my childhood friends are in my height range (thats about 5 childhood friends) and many ppl i know and work with are around my height too. i work at a car delear and every single car i've been in i've fit in just fine...even mustangs... therefore i dnt consider myself short. not one bit...i believe 5'6 to 5'10 is average

Viper says on 10/May/08
Height has a few advantages, but getting girls because of it is really not one of them.

mr. blue says on 10/May/08
Anybody noticed that Nike (the Clothing Company) writes Heights to each Sizes?
There exist Adult men & women sizes, children sizes and even baby sizes.
But i only know the adult man heights to the clothing sizes from the brand nike:
(Small, Medium, Large, Extralarge and Extraextralarge):
S = 5'8 (173 cm)
M = 5'10 (178 cm)
L = 6'0 (183 cm)
XL = 6'2 (188 cm)
XXL = 6'4 (193 cm)

need some answer says on 10/May/08
im 16(male) and only 5.45. i used to quite a short kid before but then i grew about 3 inches in 2 years(from 14- 16). can anyone tell me till what age does an average male grow? and wat exact age is the most difference seen?
share some experience pls.

James says on 10/May/08
mee possibly 6ft judging by the fact that your mum is 5ft6. Have you just turned 17? People do grow into thier early 20's but thier usually short and have had a late growth spurt. In my honest opinion I think there might be more of a chance that you will reach 5ft11 1/2 than a full 6ft. You have not really got that much to worry about since you are already taller than your farther. I think you will be at least 5ft11.25 inchs when you have stopped growing or a hair over 5ft11 at worst. Remeber though don't sit around hopping you will grow more just stop thinking about it eat well, get good sleeping habits, exercise and most importantly chill out and you might just make it. Also think positivly not negatively 5ft11 is not short it is actually quite tall to an extent.

If this answer dosen't give you any closure on your question why don't you use a growth calcualtor on the internet or ask your dad how tall he was at your age?

Yaspaa says on 10/May/08
mee.....I am God and even I dont know.

mee says on 10/May/08
please answer me...im 17, and Im 5ft11, my dead is 5ft10 and my mom is 5ft6...can i grow to 6ft...im waiting for the answer....please...

James says on 10/May/08
I know a 6ft2 -6ft3 guy whose dad is 5ft7, and his mom is 5ft5. It's strange as well because I have a male cousin (who is 13) and he is like 5ft or something like that and his older sister is approaching 15 and she is 5ft2 or 5ft3. It's ironic because thier mom is 6ft tall and thier farther is 5ft8.

James says on 10/May/08
I know a 6ft2 -6ft3 guy whose dad is 5ft7, and his mom is 5ft5. It's strange as well because I have a male cousin (who is 13) and he is like 5ft or something like that and his older sister is approaching 15 and she is 5ft2 or 5ft3. It's ironic because thier mom is 6ft tall and thier farther is 5ft8.

fucktheworld says on 10/May/08
Im 15, 5ft 9 . My dad is 6ft and my mom is 5ft 6. My dad was 5ft 6 at my age. My armspan is exactly 5ft 11, so I think its possible for me to reach 6ft.

Terence says on 10/May/08
"See I dont get this. Like 90% of the people here have stories like these. Parents secretly giving kids GH or something? Wouldnt surprise me.

I remember seeing some asian dude who was 6'4 and his dad 5'5 and mom 4'11. They must have given him GH or he has a pituitary tumor."

Sounds like someone's jealous. But no, not really, it's just that asian people from older generations never got to reach their full potential in height because of malnutrition.

lillo thomas says on 10/May/08
You have to got confidence  and funny attitude to get girls . Being tall isn't a free ticket to get girls . I REPEAT  HEIGHT ISN'T A FREE TICKET TO GET GIRLS . Most guys here don't get . Many factors are important to get girls and height is the least important of them . Being tall at 6-5 I can tell of you all of this . REPEAT WITH ME THE MANTRA  HEIGHT  ISN'T A FREE TICKET TO GET GIRLS .

Jim says on 10/May/08
I just did a little study on a popular online dating website and I thought these results were very surprising.

I did a search on women between the ages of 18 and 45 that are slim fit or average build. I threw out all profiles with only one picture or ones that looked phony. I only took the results from women who actually listed a height preference if they did not answer I did not include it because it would be unknown...here are the results.

Out of 100 women

5 required that a guy be 6 feet tall or over...5 percent!
42 required that a guy be 5-9 or above.
27 required that a guy be 5 inches taller than her or more.

Now for tall girls I considered a tall girl 5-7 or over here are the results there were 30 girls that were 5-7 or more.

Only 2 asked that a guy be 6 foot or more...6.6%
23 or 32% wanted a guy that was 5-9 or taller.
And ZERO wanted a guy to be 5 inches taller or more.

Most of the taller girls were ok with someone their height or a little taller like an inch or two and a few would be ok with slightly shorter.

I'm not doing anything magic you can do a similar search and will likely get similar results.

This is probably the best way to figure out what women think of height....ask them!

Also it proves what I have been telling people and what I have noticed as a 6 foot guy.....height doesn't matter to women very much.

Look at the one statistic I put up there out of 100 women who could put in a minimum height of anything they wanted only 5 percent put in 6 foot or above.

Some of you may not have believed me when I was saying how great my shorter friends did with women. But if this study doesn't make you feel better about not being 6-4 I don't know what will!

Try and do a search of your own and see what you get!

Jim

PaulG says on 10/May/08
error13 says on 9/May/08
You guys have got to be kidding me.
I'm 5-5 and 19 years old and ur all worried bout bein 5-9 etc? Stop worrying about whether you'll make it in life based on ur height and instead go out and MAKE your life happen regardless of any aspect of your appearance.
All this 'prefect height for girls' BS too. A girl who likes you should like you for a lot more than being 6'4".

i absolutely agree... however, there ar what women call PREREQUISITE, and height is often one of them. now realize that this is BS i agree, i honestly don't feel good when i ask my gf what she likes about me and she's like you're tall... but think of it this way, would you date a fat chick ? superficiality is just part of our DNA, for men it's height, for women it's weight...
But fortunately for most people it's a combination of the two, so if you're average in both you'll do fine... if you're less than average in either, then you have to make up with the other one..

WantingToBe6FT, why don't you work on getting down to 5% body fat, a six pack and a nice pair of shoulders/arms? you should get a crapload of hot women man, trust me...

st65 says on 10/May/08
Anonymous, My grandfather is pretty tall.

micheal says on 10/May/08
Mr.Piranio the average black guy is lke 5-10, where do you get your statistics?

Jim says on 10/May/08
Here is another thing to remember with women and height. One of my best friends was 6-5 and he was the second tallest kid in our quad-a HS. He was a big football player and got asked a lot how tall he was. Most of the time it was by girls and most of the time it seemed they would guess him UNDER 6 feet tall! If you would see this guy you would laugh.

What I'm saying is most girls unless they are close to your height probably can't judge how tall you are anyway.

I'm friends with a lady in her 50's who is very smart and successful and is maybe 5-3. She is talking to me about a guy that she estimates is 6 feet tall...he is maybe 6-4 to 6-6 in my estimation. Even really smart women can't judge height on someone that is a lot taller than them.

One other factor with some girls that I have heard from big guys like my 6-5 friend is some are afraid of guys that outsize them by a lot they fear assault...not all girls keep in mind but my friend said he noticed that many girls seemed afraid of him but didn't seem this way around smaller guys.

There was one girl that thought my buddy that is 6-5 was 5-9...I was standing there when she said it.

The next time you are out shopping and see someone that is at least 5 inches taller than you see how accurate you can guess their height.

One last thing that should make you guys feel better that are not 6-4. I tried this. Go onto an online dating site and look at the height that the ladies list as their range they prefer. I'm not surprised but maybe some of you will be. I might do a little study and post the results but just as a guess 8 out of ten girls that list themselves as 5-9 or below do NOT list 6 foot as a minimum height. I see 6 foot and above for girls that are 5-10 and up but shorter girls do not list 6 feet minimums very often. Try it and see.

Jim

Alex says on 10/May/08
I agree, I do here that more than sometimes where the son towers over his mom and dad.

Anonymous says on 9/May/08
"I'm 6'1.5- my father is 5'6 and my mom is 5'3"

See I dont get this. Like 90% of the people here have stories like these. Parents secretly giving kids GH or something? Wouldnt surprise me.

I remember seeing some asian dude who was 6'4 and his dad 5'5 and mom 4'11. They must have given him GH or he has a pituitary tumor.

Anonymous says on 9/May/08
"But hats off to actors like Depp who despite being on the short side of life, is in my opinion an incredibly diverse and talented actor..."


Depp is not on the short side of life he on on top of the world. On a height chart hes an inch under average.

Jordan says on 9/May/08
Anonimous 3--yes i think you can grow after 19--i know for a fact that back in 2002 my cuz was 19 and his doctor told him that he would not grow anymore since he almost had a full beard--but my cuz went from 5'6.25 to 5'7.5 (1.75") so the doc was even wrong. Im not saying your gonna grow 4 inches but u might tack on 1 or 2 more.

gus48 says on 9/May/08
I disagree with Alex. I dont care how big a persons arms are, I would take 6'1 over 5'9 anyday. And morning6ft is right that muscular build grabs people's attention. But if he is shorter than me then I really wont be impressed. I really dont notice anybody that is shorter than me.

HEIGHT EXPERT says on 9/May/08
I'm 6'2" 200lbs. I know weight varies because of body composition and body proportions,I use to have a fat friend that always said i'm skinny but my family and other friends tell me i'm somewhere between medium and large.I think I'm well proportionate,shoulders markedly wider than hips,16 inch biceps 41 inch chest inhaled,37 inch waist,7.5 inch wrist,and a 16 inch neck.

Jez says on 9/May/08
Rob has summed up my rant perfectly. Confidence and humour are the foundations of attractiveness! and Jim, from my experience I'd agree with 5'5-5'9 being a perfectly adequate height. Some of the girls that I could only dream of being with tend to go for Guys a more suited height to them. So Wantingtobe6ft...hang in there mate!

M.Piraino says on 9/May/08
The Average young Black guy has got to be 6'2.

error13 says on 9/May/08
You guys have got to be kidding me.
I'm 5-5 and 19 years old and ur all worried bout bein 5-9 etc? Stop worrying about whether you'll make it in life based on ur height and instead go out and MAKE your life happen regardless of any aspect of your appearance.
All this 'prefect height for girls' BS too. A girl who likes you should like you for a lot more than being 6'4".

WantingToBe6FT says on 9/May/08
Thanks for the comments guys, I'm starting to have a new outlook on life about height...still bugs me though when I go to the gym and there's 2 guys who are 4+ inches taller than me standing by me whispering crap to each other (about me).

Much appreciated

Davey says on 9/May/08
do you guys measure yourselves standing full erect and straight or just in a lazy stand?

Davey says on 9/May/08
WantingToBe6FT how tall are you?

ted says on 9/May/08
height is less important than attitude with women.

If you r confident friendly and outgoing you will do well.
If u r shy, badly overweight, and lack confidence u will do badly.

When I am slim and in a good mood I can be good, when I am overweight, bad mood etc, I can have no luck at all, I couldn't pick up a cold.
But my height hasn't changed.

U need to count your blessings, and concentrate on your perceived strengths, not look at others strengths or focus on your weaknesses.

It's like being bald, if u r self-conscious then people will laugh at u. If u are completely normal about it and dont care, then u give off that confidence and people notice nothing or they can even think u look cool.

It's like if u have to fight someone and u look at their huge arms and size , then u will likely be afraid and u have already lost, if u concentrate on your strength and think, lets see how tough he is when i hit him with my right hand, then u will do well.

And by the way wantingtobe6ft I am 184-185 my brother is 5'8.5 and he has had twice as many women as me, probably well over a 1000.

I tended to be lazy and as a bouncer, or when holidaying I would just find a good place where there were tons of beautiful fun-loving women and just pick them up, 3-5 new ones a week.
didn't even bother with ph numbers, except just to charm a few women and keep in the mood, tell them how gorgeous they were.

Because faint heart never won the fair lady.
Sure u will get rejected ( a lot) but hey thats all part of being a man, it just means u r trying.

James says on 9/May/08
Personally I think when you reach 5ft10 you have not really got a major problem with getting girls because of your height.

Alex says on 9/May/08
Max, I got about 16 inch arms and they're cut too but not very cut though. I am trying to get to 18 inch arms and still remain cut somewhat at least.

Anon2008 says on 9/May/08
Wow Jim, lots of bull****.

irishguy says on 9/May/08
Good post Jim,

Jim says on 9/May/08
I wanted to comment to Wantingtobe6ft.

I don't know what you would consider my height I have measured my tallest with shoes on at 6-2 standing up as straight as I could but I think this was total peak height and not what I normally measure. I was just under 6-1 my senior year at age 16-17 with shoes on. I have a pretty decent spinal curvature so it's hard to say but we will say I'm a little over 6 foot but I look a little taller. Anyway being my height does NOT do anything to get girls!! In fact my buddy was around my height and my other buddy was 6-5 and we all did not do well with girls.

But I will tell you who did do well. One of my buddies is maybe 5-7 he has slept with probably 100's of girls. Another guy I was friends with is 5-6 at best he had an exotic dancer as a girlfriend and she was super hot. And I could go on and on. I guess what I'm saying is it seems to me guys that are 5-5 to 5-9 are the PERFECT HEIGHT for getting girls.

I'm telling you it's not your height. I walk around all the time over 6 foot and I'm thin and look ok it's not some panacea. It hurts me to hear someone feel so down about their height.

I wouldn't have any dangerous surgeries or whatever.

I'm not sure if you were saying you are 5-9 but if you are I can ASSURE you that is more than sufficient to get girls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you were 5-5 you would do fine! Look at j-lo she has dated some tall guys and the one she is married to can't be more than 5-6 or so and there are probably 100's of examples like that.

If I wanted to I could wear some shoes with a good heel on them and work on straightening my crooked as heck spine and walk into a room and be 6-2 minimum. And you know what it wouldn't help me one bit with women!!!!!!!!

I wish you could see the guys that I hung out with growing up and the super hot girls they got and none were over 5-9!!

Hang in there and don't have one more thought about not being tall enough..it just hurts me to hear someone feel like that!

Your height is fine!! No go get some girls before some 5-5 guys get them all and there is none left!

Jim

anonymous 3 says on 8/May/08
i'm around 5 feet 7.5 inches (roughly 171.5 cm) and am 19. i want to reach at least 175~176 cm. is it still possible for me...keeping in mind that i am 19?

James says on 8/May/08
Jez I agree with you I think that women who only look at how tall a man is are very shallow.

Max says on 8/May/08
Alex, I agree with you. Big pipes are the way to go. I have 20" arms and they attract attention especially with a sleeveless shirt.

Alex says on 8/May/08
I would date a girl who is 5'11-6'0 at the most but I dont find too many girls that height that are hot is the thing.

Greg says on 8/May/08
lol yaaspa bit of a dig at weight training there, personally I think its a great hobby.

Anon2008 says on 8/May/08
I think it would be nice to know exactly how much of a bad diet someone needs in order for their growth to be stunted. Likewise with how overweight, how bad lungs are, etc.

Greg says on 8/May/08
My mate is 5ft7 5ft 8 tops, his girlfriend is 6ft and stunning, all in all he don't care about his height.

Jez says on 8/May/08
WantingToBe6FT...Dude it's sad to hear that you are feeling suicidal about not being 6 ft. If you ask me, thats just a height that psychologically, everyone wanta to be over because apparently it attracts the ladies. Well I say BS to that! I myself am 5'9.5 and have pretty low self esteem about the way I look, but that's just the type of guy I am. Sometimes I feel like hitting the gym and putting on some bulk but then i think being slightly thinner would be better. Anyway enough of the rant- I'd just like to say that Ive seen plenty of shorter guys than us with the most stunning girls, and I dont think that trying to change the way we look is all that helpful. Just be thankful for what you've got and go out there with confidence. After all confidence makes up at least another 3 inches!!!

st65 says on 8/May/08
Though you guys didn't help me so much =) we did end up measuring him and he's 6'4.5
Thanks anyway =)
BTW
I'm 6'1.5- my father is 5'6 and my mom is 5'3
Most of the guys I know are taller than their parents. This guy I was talkin' about is 6'4.5-his father is 6'1 (though peak height was 6'2) and his mom is just 5'7.

Teh Pwn says on 8/May/08
WantingToBe6FT...there are times i feel like i could do with another 10cm..but never have i had suicidal thoughts over my height, i'm under 6ft btw. Please don't make such a big deal out of it, its just your height ok? Just remember there are many many people who are shorter than you and doing much better. This thinking kinda makes me feel like a loser and spurs me on to do my best, whatever my height.

Yaspaa says on 8/May/08
I'm pretty sure a real man doesn't pose in front of mirrors moving iron objects around.

Alex says on 8/May/08
Morning-6ft, I agree with what you just said. I'd rather be 5'9-5'10 with 16-17 inch arms than a guy who is 6'1-6'2 with like 13 inch arms.

morning-6ft says on 8/May/08
ive seen guys shorter then me at the gym who have amazing physiques,i dont even notice they are shorter then me cause im too busy envying thier biceps popping out of thier skin,ive met guys much taller then me who are shocked by my muscular size,so basically those here who are not happy with thier height should start lifting weights,a muscular physique is a true sign of masculinity.trust me when u see a ripped 17 inch arm attached to ur shoulders ,u would soon forget about any short comings of height,

m says on 8/May/08
i'm 5'10, 140 lbs. and i wouldnt consider myself extremely good looking. i get the "cute" comment if anything. i have a decent personality. sometimes girls seem uninterested in me completely, and sometimes they seem overly interested. some are beautiful, some are not. who knows? i think average, cute girls with decent bodies and imperfect faces are the best, and there are a lot of people out there like me and you. any girl that puts height within the top 5 or 10 things she likes about a guy doesnt sound like a keeper to me.

Max says on 8/May/08
Paul G, my point was not to restrict the women he could date but to look on the positive side of things.

Ahleks says on 8/May/08
GSP. Well, according to some people here, upper body weight has a huge influence on how many centimeters you'll lose during the day.

PaulG says on 8/May/08
WantingToBe6FT, dude just think about all these guys terminally ill, or in a wheelchair, or blind... and HAPPY !!! trust me, even if they had the chance to be 5ft3 and normal i'm sure they'd take it ... come on ... don't be greedy, deal with what you have and move on !!!!!!!!!

PaulG says on 8/May/08
Max says on 7/May/08
WTB-6FT, While it is true many women like tall guys, there are some very pretty petite women that are perfect for a shorter guy. i can think of a number of times, when I saw a short girl in bar and thought, forget it I'd look like a building beside her.

i don't think that would make him feel better .. i mean restricting the number of girls the man can date to only petite women is not that great... but i disagree that that's the case.
I've seen tons of HOT 5-7, 5-8 chicks with guys their height or slightly taller... so i don't think height is that important. if a girl doesn't want to date you because of your height, then forget her, there's millions of girls out there who would, so just move on and don't let it drag you down.
I'm 6ft1, 205 lbs, and well built, but i'm shy by nature and SO many times i saw short guys w/charm and good conversation skills meet and hook up with hot average-height chicks... so please man don't feel suicidal it just doesn't make sense! just live your life and if some girls don't like it then screw them...literally... :D

runt says on 7/May/08
Hey WantingToBe6FT
I would get 3" leg extension surgery before I would commit suicide. But that's just me.

Anon2008 says on 7/May/08
Yep i know wantingtobe6ft, i wouldn't go so far as to say suicidal, but i would say i've felt apathetic about life. I don't know what you consider short to be, but let's say that I am 5-9.5 or so. Why even bother if I'm going to be bottom lined? Bruce Lee is one of the greatest martial artists of all time (if not the greatest) and his height is always mentioned...

Yaspaa says on 7/May/08
WantingToBe6FT.......6ft would not make any problems you may have go away,the problems resolved would inherit a whole bunch of new ones. If it is judgement given by the opposite (or same) sex which is the root of the problem then confidence is the only remedy,confidence is far more powerful than height.

Alex says on 7/May/08
Max, some short or petite women will love guys that are pretty tall but some like guys who aren't even average. If a girl is 5'0-5'1 a guy who is 5'6-5'7 is fine for her.

Max says on 7/May/08
WTB-6FT, While it is true many women like tall guys, there are some very pretty petite women that are perfect for a shorter guy. i can think of a number of times, when I saw a short girl in bar and thought, forget it I'd look like a building beside her.

WantingToBe6FT says on 7/May/08
Has anyone ever had suicidal thoughts because of their height? I know I have. Walking around, seeing all these big, tall guys with the beautiful women. Hurts. For some reason or another, I keep plugging on.

Any I don't care who you are, but if you're a guy and you've reached 6 ft, get on your knees and thank the Lord right now! It eats me alive and kills me every time a guy complains about being "only" 6 ft. Seriously, wtf is wrong with these guys? If you've got the height, then you've won half the battle!

Benji says on 7/May/08
I didn't mean that it was the main factor determining whether an actor will be successful but I think that being tall and muscular probably helps boost their career somewhere along the line. I mean there are too many films out there which rely on being tall and masculine. Admittedly, yes they are mainly action movies etc but someone like vin diesel wouldn't be where is is today without the "masculine" factor. But hats off to actors like Depp who despite being on the short side of life, is in my opinion an incredibly diverse and talented actor...

GSP says on 7/May/08
GSP do you think some people just stop growing that early? i too am just over 5`9 but i was this height in high school and i am now 26? is this possible? did you use drugs or cigarettes?

Yes I think some people just stop early but yes I also did smoke alot and smoke weed multiple time a day every day so if there was growth left im sure it was stunted.

I have a feeling I probably could have reached my dads height of 5'11 under better circumstances but will never know for sure.

I also seemed to be sexually mature a bit earlier than others so that ccould have played into it.

ON my moms side my grandpa looked to be about my height so I could have just got his genes. He had 2 sons 2 of them 6'2 and 1 5'9. On my dads side the uncles are mostly 5'10-5'11 but the cousins are alot 5'11-6'1.

Either way I dont care. Im not getting any taller and im not getting any younger either. Worrying with your height does nothing but waste valuable time that could be better spent developing skills, abilities and relationships. Those are much more important than where you lie on the height chart.

GSP says on 7/May/08
"Do you people think there is a possibility to add muscle without losing more height during the day?"

lol what?

GSP says on 7/May/08
Benji wrote

"most actors have gotten where they are for being the ultimate male- tall and muscular."


thats complete bs. Rarely is an actors success due to being tall and muscular. Swartzeneger yes but not alot others really. Part of van damme and Srallones sucess was due to being miscular but not tall. Its a minor thing unless all your movies are is mindless action flicks.

Anon2008 says on 7/May/08
Well if they are already active then yeah, it helps maintain health. Being unhealthy can effect growth. I suppose if a kid isn't fat then he's doing the right thing. I think it's more of a case that being active helps prevent things that could effect your growth in a negative way.

Anonymous says on 7/May/08
the truth is that whites in america are getting shorter and fatter. i was walking around campus and all the white kids looked under avg 5'9. blacks are geting taller as they've always been tallest and asian countrries like india, china are getting very tall in a short amount of time. india and chinas growth is attributed mainly to the fact that both tend to get high paying jobs and have rich families and livelihoods. euorpeans are leveling off heightwise. i can see it as an indian male who is 6'6 and have cousins hitting 6'4 and such growing like a foot taller than some of their parents. one of my female cousins is 5'11 and she's 16. its just crazy. one indian kid i know is 6'2 and 15 and his dad is only 5'7 an mom 5'3. and my chinese neighbor has 2 sons both 6'4, well their dad is tall but still. i say asians will be the second tallest behind blacks.

Yaspaa says on 7/May/08
The thing is though,kids exercise by just being kids,they are very energetic by nature,but you cant expect to start playing volleyball every day and then for it to make you taller,exercise comes in the last 5% along with other factors which influence height,waaaay behind nutrition and genetics. Eat right get big,eat right and exercise get big and fit.

Greg says on 7/May/08
I didn't realise there was such a genetic stringent growth pattern in relation your parents heights. My dads 5ft 9.5 my mum 5ft3.5, I'm 6ft my brother is 6ft1.5

Anon2008 says on 7/May/08
Though I've also seen studies that don't correlate asthma with height. But I also see exercise mentioned as being important for height, two reasons must be that it would prevent being overweight (obesity especially) and it would also help promote growth hormone.

Anon2008 says on 7/May/08
Well if you don't exercise during your teenage years and become fat. I think fatness would effect height. Also, if you have issues with lungs such as asthma, and you aren't active, I think this can effect height. It's mostly indirect things with exercise I think, besides it helping HGH.

If someone can remain healthy without exercising then exercising shouldn't make you grow taller.

Davey says on 7/May/08
GSP do you think some people just stop growing that early? i too am just over 5`9 but i was this height in high school and i am now 26? is this possible? did you use drugs or cigarettes?

Ryan says on 7/May/08
Hey all, quick question. I have flat feet and the condition has become a bit painful recently. I'm also 5'7.5 and I'd like a slight boost. Is there something I can put into my shoes that will help my flat feet and also add 1-2 inches in height? Thanks

Ahleks says on 7/May/08
Do you people think there is a possibility to add muscle without losing more height during the day?

Terence says on 6/May/08
"the effect on a guys height is highly influenced by their mum and vice versa. But there is one fact though, It balances out in both parents under normal conditions and in majority of people, even though there might be exceptions. This is how is works when a 6'0" male and a 5'5 female have a son the child will be likely about 5'11" meaning the boy will never be taller than the girl and if the woman is taller than the man, their son will be taller than his dad. females are generally shorter than males but if their dads and mums are really tall, say 6 feet: 6 feet respectively, their daughters tend to grow shorter than both parents maybe 5'10" max. this is what i have noticed. also all tall women start from the heights of 5'7" and men at 6'0" with these heights their children will become the same height as them(daughter 5'7" & son 6'0") or maximum an inch taller UNDER NORMAL GROWTH CONDITIONS. IT IS THE 5 INCHES GAP THAT GIVES THE SAME RESULTS AS THE PARENTS. if you are a guy and 5 INCHES taller than your wife then there is a large percent chance your son will be the same height as you or maybe just an inch taller. in order to have tall sons who will be taller than you, then your wife should either be taller than you or you should be anything under 5 inches taller than your wife. OFCOURSE THERE WILL BE EXCEPTIONAL CASES IN MY PREDICATIONS AND THIS OCCURS WHEN GENES MUTATE."

Haha that's weird, my mom is 5'2" and my dad is 5'9" and I'm 6'1"

Yaspaa says on 6/May/08
Thanks for that Jordan,you may possibly have a future career as a statition for the American Health dept lol.

(different subject) You know,people who are hung up on their height tend to focus on the negative,like only focusing on people taller (or shorter which ever the case) and not noticing the other 30 people that walked by. Remember,confidence is worth 10 inches.

Benji says on 6/May/08
its all pretty depressing stuff being short compared to all the top A lists- but you've got to remember along with all their talent (well most of them anyway), most actors have gotten where they are for being the ultimate male- tall and muscular. But look around you- I stand at 176.5cm, which isnt exactly tall but at the same time there are plenty of people much shorter. Sure, i'd like to grow another inch or so but who wouldn't? From reading all of these comments, including my earlier posts, ive learnt that ill probably never grow any more. But I keep myself in good shape, and always have a smile on my face. I bet there are plenty of ladies out there who will accept the fact that im a couple of inches shorter than your average A list! I'm just waiting to meet them all...
peace

Max says on 6/May/08
Davey, I have travelled quite alot and have found height varied alot from place to place. I have a friend who is 5'9" and says he feels like a midget with me because I have 8.5" on him. I tell him I judge my friends by their kindness not a tape measure. If you are nice that is the best characteristic to aim for.

glenn says on 6/May/08
this bull**** with clooney has got to stop.saw him last night again and he gave illusions of 6-1.so he is still 5-11ish.

Jordan says on 6/May/08
OK Yaspaa today the results were a little different as I walked though the halls. The height that I saw the most of these male freshman was 5'8 with a good number's of 5'10 and 5'11, one giant 6'3 and a decent number's of 5'6 and 5'7. So the most i saw in the freshman were prolly 40% that were 5'8, maybe 30% that were around 5'7 and then the rest (30%) 5'10 and 5'11. So this time they didn’t appear as tall but still pretty shocking the average would be around 5'9.

There was about 2 kids i saw that looked over 6'0 and one kid that had to be 5’0.The other strange thing is I walked though the sophomore tower and they appeared shorter than the freshman based on the ones I passed. I would still conclude though that the average freshman in my sisters school is 5'8 or 5'9. SO yeah the first time I walked through might just have been a coincidence that they looked to be 5’10 or 5’11 but the 5’9 average would still be considered tall for 14 year olds I would guess.

Another thing is my sister’s friends Ben and Nick are both 5’9 and are freshman yet her other friend that is a Sophomore is 5’7, so it’s a strange situation there.

As Far as my sisters knowledge she says MOST of the males in her grade (Freshman) are between 5’8 and 5’10 for the black kids and 5’7 to 5’9 for the white kids. She also tells me that there are a few football athletes in her science class that are from 5’11 to 6’1 but she also knows this one kid that is 4’10.

Yaspaa says on 6/May/08
Anon2008. How can a lack of exercise stunt growth? 75% genetics,20% diet,5% environment.Exercise makes you fit..yes,helps you grow..no.

GSP says on 6/May/08
I was 5'9 before I was even in high school. Still 5'9. Not that bad. Guys dont let this site screw with your head. Its a cool site and all but if you spend too much time here it messes with your head and screws your perceptions.

Im 5'9 and its a fine height and I dont really feel very short when out and about. Slightly under average but whatever. Be a man and accept yourself for who you are .

Life's too short and height is overrated. ;-)

James says on 6/May/08
It's quite common for some young African Americans to stand at 6ft2 or 6ft3.

Anon2008 says on 6/May/08
Yaspaa, exercising can make you taller if lack of exercise is stunting your growth. Though you still need to have the ability to grow taller (growth plates not closed). That's what I'm referring to at least.

Yaspaa says on 6/May/08
Pennsylvania dutch,I think are of german descent whether that has any relation to their height I dont know. Keep us informed, bientot.

Jordan says on 6/May/08
Yeah to me it sounds crazy and I dont know if them being African American is the reason either. I dont know ifs it accurate that african americans are taller than casucasion. But the school is about 65 percent african american and the rest are Pensslyvania dutch, so that could account for the tallness. I am picking my sister up every tuseday and thursday so i will look again but ive went in twice and the case was alot of these freshman were in the range of 5'9 to 6'0 range. I know its sounds crazy but i walked past them and they were able to look me in the eye and again im a 5'10 hispanic male. i will check again today when i go thought the halls to get my sis from band.

Yaspaa says on 6/May/08
Actually I could'nt remember exactly I was just guessing but I did stop growing at 16. Does 5'10+ for about 50% of 14 year old kids at this school just sound unbelievable though,it means more than half of them will grow to over 6'0 thats over three times the amount there would normally be.

Jordan says on 6/May/08
I agree Yaspaa--I was shocked when I walked in a saw these Freshman that were so tall. Again Most of the shcool is african american and sicne im hispanic i guess i felt short, but the thing is 5'10 is pretty good for a hispanic yet compared to these african american freshman, i was average height. It was quite embarrising to be honest. I also know Yaspaa that african americans reach their full height earlier than Hispanics and Casucasions so that could account for the tallness in the school. But again I dont lie when i say that I was eye level with 4/10 students there and about 3 or 4 out of 10 were in fact a bit taller then me.

James says on 6/May/08
Wow Yaspaa thats quite a grow spurt from when you were 14.

annonymous says on 6/May/08
the effect on a guys height is highly influenced by their mum and vice versa. But there is one fact though, It balances out in both parents under normal conditions and in majority of people, even though there might be exceptions. This is how is works when a 6'0" male and a 5'5 female have a son the child will be likely about 5'11" meaning the boy will never be taller than the girl and if the woman is taller than the man, their son will be taller than his dad. females are generally shorter than males but if their dads and mums are really tall, say 6 feet: 6 feet respectively, their daughters tend to grow shorter than both parents maybe 5'10" max. this is what i have noticed. also all tall women start from the heights of 5'7" and men at 6'0" with these heights their children will become the same height as them(daughter 5'7" & son 6'0") or maximum an inch taller UNDER NORMAL GROWTH CONDITIONS. IT IS THE 5 INCHES GAP THAT GIVES THE SAME RESULTS AS THE PARENTS. if you are a guy and 5 INCHES taller than your wife then there is a large percent chance your son will be the same height as you or maybe just an inch taller. in order to have tall sons who will be taller than you, then your wife should either be taller than you or you should be anything under 5 inches taller than your wife. OFCOURSE THERE WILL BE EXCEPTIONAL CASES IN MY PREDICATIONS AND THIS OCCURS WHEN GENES MUTATE.

Bruce, interesting, this is exactly the case in my family. My father is 6'0, my mother is 5'5, and I'm 5'10 1/2, 5'11 morning height. My two sisters who are older than me are, the older one 5'8, and the other one 5'7. My height comes from my mother, and sisters got their height from my father. I agree with you that this is the way that height works out most of the time.

Yaspaa says on 6/May/08
Davey as long as a person eats well they should grow fine,using illegal drugs however when young can damage mental growth and change the way the neural pathways were mean't to be formed in the brain,leading to psychosis and or schizophrenia.

klem says on 6/May/08
It seems like suddenly here is a bunch of 5-9 to 5-10 who desperately wants to get taller, common thats not so bad at all, 2 of my close friends are around that height and they dont have any troubles with girls and they dont seem short to me, they look normal height. Its not tall but its not short either, and in good shape with looks and confidence it will be desirable to most girls.

Yaspaa says on 6/May/08
Jordan,I was 5'10-5'11 when I was 14,I'm 6'4 now,are you telling me that 5 out of 10 freshmen at that school will be around that height when fully grown,If it is true I might send my kid there.

Davey says on 6/May/08
When people say drugs and cigarettes stunt growth,How much do they mean by? maybe 1 inch or two? or is like 4 inches or more? very confusing.

Davey says on 6/May/08
Gsp i agree but from 5`10 to 6`2.5`9 is still short without good footwear.Im 5`9 and a half (176cm) and without my timberland boots on i feel like an absolute midget here in australia.

GSP says on 6/May/08
"Ok, so it is possible that I may grow another inch or so over the next couple of years, which is great! But that still only gets me to around 5'10.5, which I guess isn't exactly small! So, directed at the ladies out there, is 5'10.5 a desirable height for a male lol? ;-)"

Of course it isnt desirable. Just ask Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Matt Damon (probabaly shorter) ect ect..

Seriously though 5'10.5 is pretty damn close to perfect height. Anywhere 5'9-6'2 imo is a nice height.

GSP says on 6/May/08
"Man, reading these comments have made me depressed. I'm 20 years 3 months and 5'10 and 3/4'' I wanted to stop at 6'1'' anyone got any ideas how to gain an inch or 2 and I'm not talking about hgh injections or any type of surgical procedure. I've researched stretching and taking arginine/orthinine/glutimine but nothing has seemed to work as of yet."

Give me a break. LOL

WantingToBe6FT says on 5/May/08
"Hatredandanger says on 3/May/08
I hate women.Why doesnt a 5`3 go for a 5`9 guy? Why do all stupid women love tall guys.It makes me furious!! and depressed."

Don't go getting too depressed!! I'm 5'9" and I have a hot girlfriend who is 5'3", so don't give up hope!

WantingToBe6FT says on 5/May/08
"Depressed says on 1/May/08
This site has damaged my self esteem big time.I am 176 cm tall and after hanging around this site for a year ive decided to get limb lenghtening to 180cm.Thanks so much for destroying my confidence.Rob if you dont show this post you are not a real man.You have to take the good with the bad."

Totally agree with that statement. This world is frickin cruel, I'm trying to scrape up some extra cash to have limb lengthening done.

Benji says on 5/May/08
Ok, so it is possible that I may grow another inch or so over the next couple of years, which is great! But that still only gets me to around 5'10.5, which I guess isn't exactly small! So, directed at the ladies out there, is 5'10.5 a desirable height for a male lol? ;-)

Anonymous says on 5/May/08
brue the statement you maid only applies to cacusains, as i am an indain most famlies i know have fathers arouund 5'9'' and mothers 4'10'', yet all the famalies i know have sons taller then their dads even if they have been on the same diet, for example my dad and uncle grew up on the same diet as their dad in india my dad is 5'9'' and uncle 5'10'' yet my grandfather was only 5'7'' and his wife 4'10'', plus my mum is 4'10' and i'm 15 but i'm about 5'7'', i see your point about sons being smaller then their dads but even in cacuasain famalies i only see that when both parents are tall say mum 5'8 and dad 6'3''the son will be about 6foot. Editor rob what is your take on this?

Euan says on 5/May/08
well my dad's 5'10 and my mum is 5'2 and im 6'1 and my sister is 5'7, i tell you were they are tall though, denmark! im not used to feeling short!
however, my maternal grandmother is 4'10 (though she has shrunk) and my grandfather used to be 5'10 (he has shrunk too and he slouches, but he still looks tall when he stands up tall)

my paternal grandafather was 5'6 (5'7 at his peak) and my grandmother was 5'0 peak so perhaps the short people=tall kids is not entirely inaccurate

however my best friend stuart is also 6'1 his two older brothers are 6'2 and 6'1.5 and his parents are not short his dad is 5'11 and his mum is 5'7

Yaspaa says on 5/May/08
Sounds more like he needs an excuse for his poor putting of late.

Yaspaa says on 5/May/08
So people who don't fall into your theory Bruce,are mutants.

Teh Pwn says on 5/May/08
hey bruce, my mum is only 5'1, my dad is 5'10, im a little over 5'11. My dad probably reached/hit close to his genetic potential as he was from a well to do family and had access to food all the time. My mum on the other hand was from a poor family and sometimes had to skip meals due to a lack of money. Therefore, her genetic potential was never reached. Based on my height, can you calculate roughly how tall she'd be if she wasn't malnourished when growing? Thanks!

runt says on 4/May/08
Phil Michaelson just said he has recently become an inch taller from stretching and has had his golf clubs resized for his new height.

Bruce says on 4/May/08
the effect on a guys height is highly influenced by their mum and vice versa. But there is one fact though, It balances out in both parents under normal conditions and in majority of people, even though there might be exceptions. This is how is works when a 6'0" male and a 5'5 female have a son the child will be likely about 5'11" meaning the boy will never be taller than the girl and if the woman is taller than the man, their son will be taller than his dad. females are generally shorter than males but if their dads and mums are really tall, say 6 feet: 6 feet respectively, their daughters tend to grow shorter than both parents maybe 5'10" max. this is what i have noticed. also all tall women start from the heights of 5'7" and men at 6'0" with these heights their children will become the same height as them(daughter 5'7" & son 6'0") or maximum an inch taller UNDER NORMAL GROWTH CONDITIONS. IT IS THE 5 INCHES GAP THAT GIVES THE SAME RESULTS AS THE PARENTS. if you are a guy and 5 INCHES taller than your wife then there is a large percent chance your son will be the same height as you or maybe just an inch taller. in order to have tall sons who will be taller than you, then your wife should either be taller than you or you should be anything under 5 inches taller than your wife. OFCOURSE THERE WILL BE EXCEPTIONAL CASES IN MY PREDICATIONS AND THIS OCCURS WHEN GENES MUTATE.

Buttercutter says on 4/May/08
Actually, it depends on the genes. Let's see: t=small T=tall
If the kid gets a hybrid tT gene from his parents, it will have hybrid height resulting in average height.
a pure TT=tall kid
a pure tt=short kid

Example: my mom is 5'6, my dad is 5'11... I am 6'2, my brother is 5'10 and my other brother is 6'3.5. As you can see one of my brothers is shorter than my father. My friend is 6'0 and his mom is 5'0 and his father 5'7-5'8. :D

Jordan says on 4/May/08
No Yaspaa, the facts are that alot of the the freshman in the my sisters school are taller than me (5'10). I would say at least 5 out 10 were taller then me. It is not a basketball school, it is a moslty african american school though with no hispanics like myself to bring down the average height.

ted says on 4/May/08
generally taller parents will have taller children, and shorter parents shorter kids but there are lots of genes affecting height, so there are a lot of random permutations, which will run counter to this. In fact the exception is more noticeable because it is an exception.

James says on 4/May/08
I agree Annoymous

Jay says on 4/May/08
Man, reading these comments have made me depressed. I'm 20 years 3 months and 5'10 and 3/4'' I wanted to stop at 6'1'' anyone got any ideas how to gain an inch or 2 and I'm not talking about hgh injections or any type of surgical procedure. I've researched stretching and taking arginine/orthinine/glutimine but nothing has seemed to work as of yet.

Davey says on 4/May/08
With all the steroids in food these days even people with short parents are growing very tall.Im 176 cm and feel like a midget when i walk around.

Shawn says on 4/May/08
annonymous i don't agree.I strongly believe that sons follow their mothers' line,and daughters their fathers'...There are too many cases so I find it difficult to consider it coincidental..My father is just about 170-1 cm tall,my mum's peak height was about 175-4(a lot above average) ,now at the age of 42 174-3..I'm exactly 188 out of bed at the age of 17,my brother who is 2 years my senior is about 185 cm tall(not a morning measure)... I tell you ,mums affect their sons' height,and fathers their daughters'...But as always there are exceptions...

Annonymous says on 4/May/08
James, any proof that shorter parents produce taller kids and teller parents - shorter kids? Consider this explanation. The chances of being close to average height are the highest. So if you have parents shorter than average or parents taller than average the children in both cases will most likely be of average hight. Hence if parents are short(er) (than average) they (likely) produce tall(er) children and if parents are tall(er) (than average) they (likely) produce short(er) children... In other words there is no genetic "anomaly" or irony it is simple (and in no way arrogantly presented) statistical fact.

ns says on 3/May/08
im 6ft and just turned 15 last week how tall dou think ill get my parents are 5'4 and 6'1 i take after my dad whose 6'1

sexyman says on 3/May/08
when you guys measure yourselves do you stand as straight as you can or just relaxed?

Max says on 3/May/08
Morning/Evening heights. I notice many put emphasis on morning heights, technically everbody is at their tallest in the morning so no advantage is had. I quote my evening height and drop the 1/2". I notice some 5'10, 5'11" guys quoting themselves as 6'0" and then over estimating others to keep their measurement plausible.

Max says on 3/May/08
00Fatman, I don't think weight as much as level of fitness has to do with it. I have never lost more than 3/4" in a day and I am 325lbs, but quite fit. If weight was an issue I'd be losing 2" or more.

Hatredandanger says on 3/May/08
I hate women.Why doesnt a 5`3 go for a 5`9 guy? Why do all stupid women love tall guys.It makes me furious!! and depressed.

Shawn says on 3/May/08
Depressed says on 1/May/08
Ive spoken to a doctor he says pain is managed and because i only need 4 cm it wont be that bad.Its only painfull for people who try to gain 10 cm because of strecthing of muscles and ligaments.I will be fine.

Why don't you buy a pair of Air Max Ltd sneakers.They will give you about 3-4 cm.It's cheaper and totally painless.Seriously..

Shawn says on 3/May/08
Depressed says on 1/May/08
Ive spoken to a doctor he says pain is managed and because i only need 4 cm it wont be that bad.Its only painfull for people who try to gain 10 cm because of strecthing of muscles and ligaments.I will be fine.

Why don't you buy a pair of Air Max Ltd sneakers.The will give you abot 3-4 cm.It's cheaper and totally painless.Seriously..

Charliemoto says on 3/May/08
i haven't seen your face ROB thanks to a white box, but from the many ones i've seen and the shape of your face i can conclude you look really similar to GORDON FREEMAN (from Half_life 2 the videogame). cool hey?

try google image and type Gordon Freeman.

st65 says on 3/May/08
A friend of mine claims 6'2 but I think he's way taller.
Click Here
(the guy with on the right side)

I'm the guy on the left side (with the buzzcut) and I'm 6'1.5
How tall is he? I'd guess that something like 6'4 or 6'4.5

Davey says on 3/May/08
When people say drugs and cigarettes stunt growth,How much do they mean by? maybe 1 inch or two? or is like 4 inches or more? very confusing.

jedk says on 3/May/08
James, that's true. If taller parents just had taller kids all the time then people would just keep on getting taller and taller until eventually everyone would be 6'4"! :D

OOFatman says on 3/May/08
Question for anyone on the board: When asked your height, do you reply with your morning height, night height, or an average of the two?

MisterLaBouche says on 2/May/08
question about weightlifting: I do really low weights but I do it each day for 30 minutes. Does this affect the growth? I also heared many body builders loose height is that true?

OOFatman says on 2/May/08
morning-6ft says on 1/May/08
. . . im guessing the amount u loose has more to do with having weak abdominal and lower back musculature.

That could have something to do with it. At least the rate at which I lose my height anyway. I'm not one to work out my abs LOL!

Jordan says on 2/May/08
NO Yaspaa it is a regular school that has mostly white Penssyvania Dutch in in. I will tell you they are facts as in I am 5'10 and i WAS shorter when i walked through the halls. I looked up to alot of freshman. Im not saying the average freshman is 5'11 throughout the country, just in my area as it was not a guess when i had to look up to these kids. Most were taller then me or my height. Maybe 5 out of 10 freshman were a little shorter than me and remember im 5'10.

Yaspaa says on 2/May/08
James I fit into that category. I'm 4.5" taller than father and 12" taller than my mother,however my granfdather is tall at 6'2, (he has lost very little height from what I can tell and is 85 years old)my sister is 5'8.5 and my brother is 6'2.5. I'd like to think that the height thing maybe skips a generation but no,my son is large also.

James says on 2/May/08
Teh Pwn well my friend has had problems in the past with his stomach e.g having to have his apendix removed and he used to be sick a lot and eat a lot of chocolate so that could be a factor. I think the problem is that all of his ancestors on his farthers side of the family are Argentenian and on his mothers side he is half Irish/English. That said my friend is quite athletic and sporty and plays Basketball so who knows he is only 18 so he could possibly grow more but I dont think he will reach 6ft7.

Alex says on 2/May/08
Derek, how fast do you lose height? How long are you 6'2.25 for? What times of the day are you what certain height?

When I was in 9th grade where the kids are 14-15 there was this kid who was 6'5. He winded up being 6'8 by 12th grade. He may have grown a bit more after that.

Heightwatcher says on 2/May/08
Also the belgiums belong to the taller countries Click Here

Yaspaa says on 2/May/08
Jordan those aren't facts they are your guesses. 14 year olds over 5'10. Does your sister go to a basketball school or something.

Teh Pwn says on 1/May/08
James the case you cited is indeed remarkable, if your friend ate well and had good sleeping habits, I think it might be possible that he got a genetic mutation somewhere. Or, his parents both had a recessive gene each that resulted in a lower height potential when put together.

Depressed says on 1/May/08
Ive spoken to a doctor he says pain is managed and because i only need 4 cm it wont be that bad.Its only painfull for people who try to gain 10 cm because of strecthing of muscles and ligaments.I will be fine.

Derek says on 1/May/08
Alex- I lose 3/4" as well, from 6'2.25" to 6'1.5". If I'm on my feet for most of the day, it's probably closer to 1".

Alex says on 1/May/08
I'll lose 1/4 inch pretty quick, could be around 30 minutes or so.

James says on 1/May/08
Yaspaa its ironic but shorter parents produce taller kids and taller parents produce shorter kids lol.

annonymous says on 1/May/08
My morning height is 180cm. It lasts for about an hour or so. For most of a day I'm 179cm. By the time I go to bad I go down to 178cm, sometimes even to 177cm, it depends if I work or do something more phisical. So I can lose about 3cm during a day or over an inch, but I do have bad posture, which may be the reason why that happens.

Alex says on 1/May/08
Fatman, I normally lose 3/4 but I have lost up to 1 1/4 inch but thats rare though.

morning-6ft says on 1/May/08
oofatman:i think upper body weight has an effect on how fast u loose ur morning height,for instance im 6-0.25 in the morning and im about 5-11.75 after just 1 hour,then i gradually go down to 5-11.25 or 5-11.5 depending on how active ive beene,but the reason i think i loose 0.5 inch in just one hour is because im 245lbs.so i think weight has more to with the rate u loose ur morning height rather then the amount u loose, ,im guessing the amount u loose has more to do with having weak abdominal and lower back musculature.

Jordan says on 1/May/08
Actually Yaspa I said the Average male in my area of PA is over 5'11. Yes that is a fact becasue i went to my sisters High school and most of the freshman there (Age 14) are taller then me and Im 5'10. SO yes those are facts at least in my area.

PaulG says on 1/May/08
James says on 29/Apr/08
I know a 6ft2 guy who's mum is 5ft3 and farther is 5ft8 or 5ft9.

i'm 6'1.5 out of bed, my mom is 5ft1-2 and dad 5ft9

Yaspaa says on 1/May/08
Losing height during the day is completely normal due to spine compression but 1.25 seems quite a lot. I lose 0.75 by the time I go to bed. I'm about 20lbs over weight (still carrying some winter weight),then again everyone is different. It's definitely not something to worry about though.

OOFatman says on 1/May/08
Does anyone on here lose MORE than 1" of height after a long day like me? I normally lose about 3/4" to 1", but I can lose up to 1 1/4" after a long day on my feet. Weight might have something to do with it?

annonymous says on 1/May/08
Shawn, I totally agree with you. There are tall people all around Europe. Dutch average of 6'-6'1" is for younger generations. It is close to but less than 6' for the whole population. The same thing can be said for Dinaric region, which is partly Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, and Serbia. Also, because of large movements of people from this region to other parts of these four countries the average for whole Yugoslavia is probably 5'11. Dutch are probably the tallest, following by Scandinavians, Yugoslavians, other Germanic and Slavic people, but the difference is almost invisible.

Yaspaa says on 1/May/08
Jordan,I dont know where you get your facts. There is no way the average male is over 5'11.

James says on 1/May/08
Teh Pwn the point is he was told by the doctor when he was 10 that he was predicted to be 6ft7 as an adult, but yet he is not even on the 6ft mark. I am just saying that my friend must have been miffed that he didn't have a huge growth spurt. He also told me by tradition every male in his family is 4 inches taller than their farther generation after generation. Ironcily he has broken that pattern and has turned out to be 3 or 4 inches shorter than his farther at 5ft11.

gazinder says on 1/May/08
It's weird people say 5' 9" is the average in UK/US, I'm 5' 11" and feel short, there are loads of guys 6'+.

Teh Pwn says on 1/May/08
"James says on 29/Apr/08
Also funnly enough I know a guy that is 5ft11 or a little over, who's mum is 5ft7-5ft8 and his farther is basketball player and stands at 6ft3. Its ironic because he was predicted to be 6ft7 but at the age of 18 he has only tunred out to be 5ft11 1/2, but he still wants to play in the BBL although not the NBA."

Haha oh ya! I know a guy who's dad is 6'3, but is only 5'11. Not too sure about his mum's height.

Jordan says on 1/May/08
The average 9 year old increases .5 inches per decade in height. So the average height of 18 year olds now is 5'10, so by 2050 it is predeicted the average height for 18 year olds will be 6'0.5 with the regular population of the USA being about 5'11.75. This will happen as long as the nutrition stays the same which might not happen since this country is heading into some **** so who knows.

I know for a fact that in my area of PA, the average male is over 5'11 since I am 5'10 and the freshman in my sister's high shchool are taller then me, and i mean at least half of them.

Teh Pwn says on 1/May/08
Oh no depressed don't do the surgery, it looks so painful, and i always wonder if there'd be any side effects, especially as u grow old. My 177cm brother always gets mistaken as being taller than me (181cm) cos of his large frame and my exceptional skinny-ness. Don't worry, people can't tell the difference okay!

Yaspaa says on 1/May/08
Depressed, a lot of the people on this site are tall probably due to the fact that they searched the net for their percentiles or something and came across this site, so its disproportionate. In the real world there is nothing wrong with your height,there will always be people who are taller not to mention that there will be undoubtedly many exaggerators or down right liars on the site.
The poll that Elvis J and then Alex posted shows that your height of 5'9.29 is not a despisory height getting more votes than 6'3. Incredibly painful surgery that you dont need is crazy mate. With the average girls height of 5'4 (5'6-5'8 in heels) you're fine. You are still taller than 55% of the male population.

Yaspaa says on 1/May/08
5'9 is the uk average (actually it's 5'8.9)

Heightwatcher says on 1/May/08
Click Here check this, this is height curve from people in flenders which is 60 % from belgium. Belgium has 2 parts south and north.
The average guy from the Netherlands must be 6 feet 1!

irishguy says on 1/May/08
Shawn, I totally disagree. Check out holland, the average is 6'0-6'1. Yes, really.
The fact is height is related to diet and healthcare, in general the richer the country (and provided the wealth and quality of life is shared out more among the citizens), the taller the average will be.

morning-6ft says on 1/May/08
Depressed:go lift some weights!

Shawn says on 1/May/08
I wanted to say that MOST of European males are the same height on average...Even if there are differences,they're not so noticable....Tallness can be considered only as a regional characterisic,not as a national one ...But the thing that matters is that the average is always very simmilar.I live in Serbia,Belgrade,and yes young men are tall...but it is the same with young Germans....I hanged out with Italians(from Southern Tirol) a lot and I can say their average wasn't below Serbian.....Listen,I know tne mentality of the people in the Balkans....They're very boastful...BUT,IT IS TRUE THAT PEOPLE FROM HERZEGOVINA,SANDZAK,MONTENEGRO,and SOUTHERN DALMATIA are known for their tall population(6-1 or even more..)But again these are only regional charactristics(in all these areas live Serbs,Croatians,Montenigrins,Bosniaks)But I presume that in other parts of Europe you could also find regions with extremely tall people(like Groningen). But the NATIONAL average is always very similar....Who disagrees?

Depressed says on 1/May/08
This site has damaged my self esteem big time.I am 176 cm tall and after hanging around this site for a year ive decided to get limb lenghtening to 180cm.Thanks so much for destroying my confidence.Rob if you dont show this post you are not a real man.You have to take the good with the bad.

Greg says on 30/Apr/08
Alex, interestingly my 4 best pals average out at about 5ft10 which is the UK average

anonymous says on 30/Apr/08
i seem to notice my hair makes a big difference in height i cut my own hair and when i cut 1/4 inch of hair off my head i seemed to have lost 1/4 inch of height (not literally of course it was just my hair) but i was very surprised none the less and i also had short hair to begin with

annonymous says on 30/Apr/08
Slavic and Germanic people in Europe are close, and probably all average around 5'10, 5'11. Romanic are little bit shorter, my guess would be 5'8, 5'9. Dinaric are the tallest, but because Yugoslavians(Croatians, Bosnians, Serbians, and Montenegros) are partly Slavs, and mixture of some other people they are also around 5'10, 5'11 on average.

Max says on 30/Apr/08
Alex, I find most people guess low on purpose because they don't want to upset me. Also I find past a certain point most peoples estimations go way off.

Morning-6ft, Everyone in our family is tall, even my little sister is 6'0". Size is also a family trait all the guys heavily built. Weightlifting is just something I took up to stay fit, I imagine it added a little size but I am sure I would still be quite big without it.

Daniel says on 30/Apr/08
I stand 6' 2.5" in the morning and just under 6' 2" in the evening! I always wanted to stop growing at 6' 4", maybe even 6' 5", just to stand out from the crowd a little bit!

Alex says on 30/Apr/08
Greg, my best friends are 5'8, 6'0, 6'3 and 6'5. They average out at 6'1.

Yaspaa says on 30/Apr/08
OK Shaun, you are nuts.

Chris says on 30/Apr/08
Hey Shawn, why do you say all European males are the same height? Europe's a very diverse place, each region having it's own story to tell, each area having varying setbacks and opportunities in it's history. That results in our varying appearances.
I guess it's the same as other continents, in Asia for example, where Chinese heights are different to other heights and so on.
Whats your opinion?

anonymous says on 30/Apr/08
cheers glenn. like i said yours and robs opinion comes first, as you guys know your stuff the best. but it would be interesting to see the readers conclusions.