How tall is Andre The Giant - Page 3

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6ft 11.89in (213.1cm)
Texas Tom said on 9/Aug/19
Andre would definitely not have been in cowboy boots in the douglass shot---he never wore them in his short-haired period when his back was bad.

To me, looking a touch over 6'10" in that shot.
Kunoichi said on 9/Aug/19
In 1992 with 192cm Jumbo Tsuruta

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In 1970 with Michelle Nador

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Dan Trojan said on 8/Aug/19
Roderick that is ridiculous andre never looked 6'7" what are you smoking seriously
cmillzz said on 8/Aug/19
Looking at old photos of Andre in the 70s, I honestly wouldn’t rule out a full 7’0. Maybe he was 6’11.5 peak? I still wouldn’t go under 6’11 range for him.
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Aug/19
@Roderick I already posted that Slick/Andre vid on 6/May/19, dude (love the music; makes me think of "Seinfeld"), and yes, Andre looks "short" there...

In that video clip JT just posted, the other guy is Bill Watts, who was billed as 6'3". Given Watts footwear advantage, Andre looked very short there.

Even w/ 5'8" Mean Gene. Short.

Here's Michael Douglas w/ 5'9" JCVD (circa '90s)... Click Here
Now, check out Andre (maybe in cowboy boots) w/ Douglas... Click Here
At only 6'7", a height of 5'9" reaches my chin. If Andre was wearing cowboy boots, then he definitely wasn't looking very tall here. In no way does he look 7 feet tall, regardless of his big head.
Roderick said on 6/Aug/19
@NINJA Look up on YouTube "Slick wants to be Andre the Giants manager". Andre looks 6'8" max next to Slick who was max 6'3".
JT said on 6/Aug/19
NINJA said on 3/Aug/19
Never seen Andre look 6’8” or 6’7”. Ever. That is ridiculous. Just sayin.

You have now Click Here Click Here Not that Andre was really that height at his peak. He was at around age 17 Click Here
Canson said on 5/Aug/19
@Roderick: I agree with you. Andre was 6’11” range peak and by the time he died may have been sub 6’10”
NINJA said on 5/Aug/19
Please post a picture of Andre looking 6’7”...
Roderick said on 4/Aug/19
@NINJA A slouching Andre in his last years did look as low as 6'7". But when standing straight for a measurement, I think he was about 6'9.25" tops before he died.
NINJA said on 3/Aug/19
Never seen Andre look 6’8” or 6’7”. Ever. That is ridiculous. Just sayin.
JT said on 3/Aug/19
RoelC, the Atlanta Hawks did measure Gonzalez. Click Here Not sure how scientific that measurement was but it guarantees no tip-toeing. The Sports Illustrated writer presumably got the 7’6 ½” measurement from Stan Kasten, then GM of the Hawks but I’m speculating. If true, that could be Gonzalez’s height in shoes. Per Rob, those Converse shoes only give around a 0.5” boost, which would yield a 7’6” w/o shoe measurement for Gonzalez. The shoes may not give that much though when standing on a wooden wedge like Gonzalez is.

iconjj said on 26/Jul/19
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.

Andre and Gonzalez were over-billed by WWF by around 6 inches but for different reasons. I recall reading many years ago that Andre was billed at 7'4" since b-baller Tom Burleson was being listed as 7'3" and WWF wanted Andre to be the tallest athlete. The NBA and ABA had several guys listed as 7’2” back then, including Kareem and Artis Gilmore, which could have also prompted Andre to be over-billed by more than the usual amount for wrestlers back then (around 2-3 inches).

Gonzalez's 8 foot billing just sounded good. Vince Jr. over-billed ~7’1” Giant Silva by only 4 inches at 7’5” (and probably since WCW was billing Big Show at 7’4” at the time). Vince, Jr. initially over-billed Big Show by only around 2 inches. Same with Khali.
iconjj said on 2/Aug/19
Roelc basketball stats is at least something. We have jack squat on Andre. If they were looking to bill him as taller than Kareem they could have done 7'3. 7'4 just seemed like an odd number. looked to me like they (whoever they were) added 6 inches. And vince jr just followed suit because it worked for Andre.
I'm not disagreeing with you, theres no facts per say to back this up just seems to add up to me.
Halb said on 2/Aug/19
André didn't have bad posture until post back surgery in 86/87.
tree said on 2/Aug/19
Undertaker Frank said on 31/Jul/19
The Reason McMahon billed Andre @ 7ft 4 is to make him taller than Kareem Abdul Jabbar who was listed @ 7ft 2

Why not 7ft3 lol
Roderick said on 1/Aug/19
@Creeper There are plenty of photos with Andre standing tall in his prime looking nowhere near 7'1".

Andre was a 6'11"ish guy peak height. He was probably as low as 6'9" when he died. With bad posture in the 90s Andre could easily look 6'7"-6'8" range.

No offense, but Andre wasn't anywhere near your estimate.
Undertaker Frank said on 31/Jul/19
The Reason McMahon billed Andre @ 7ft 4 is to make him taller than Kareem Abdul Jabbar who was listed @ 7ft 2
Creeper said on 31/Jul/19
Andre was 7'1-7'2 peak height. A very tall man with bad posture can easily look 6'10 range in photos, but it doesn't mean that's what he measures.

Andre gets a vote of 7'1.5 from me now I think 7'2 is possible but I just stick with 7'1.5 to be safe....

Honest opinions? I'm open to argue
ASC said on 30/Jul/19
Regarding the Hamilton quote, if he was “kayfabing,” wouldn’t he say Haystack was 600 pounds? This is not to say his recollection or the process was completely accurate, but it doesn’t seem like a straight lie.
Roderick said on 29/Jul/19
Giant Gonzalez was 7'6"-7'7" and billed at 8'0".

Andre was actually listed as tall as 7'6", when in reality he was never even 7 foot.

Big Show was billed at 7'4"-7'5" in WCW, then lowered to 7'2" in WWF, became 7'1" for just a little bit, and eventually just 7'0". IMO, I estimate his peak around 7'0". But by 2008 or so when he got the 7'0" billing, he had already shrunk an inch bc of the morbid obesity + wrestling. He was 6'11" in 2008 IMO.
RoelC said on 29/Jul/19
iconjj said on 26/Jul/19
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.
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Iconjj it's been said here many times, but don't look for any pattern in pro-wrestling billings as there isn't any. There's no billing method for Giants in the WWE. I'm sure Gonzales' 8ft billing had more to do with marketing, than with a billing method of overlisting Giants by 6 inches. Gonzales was a very tall individual and 8ft just sounds a lot better than 7'10" or 7'11".

You're also forgetting that McMahon Sr. wasn't the first one to bill Andre at 7'4". He was already billed at that height in both Canada and the US before he even made his WWWF debut.

And what legit stats do we have on Jorge? The only listings we have are his basketball listings, and we know how trustworthy those can be. Especially with very tall athletes like Gonzales. He might've been the 7'6" he was listed at, but it's not like it's edged in stone.
Guinness listed him at 7'6", but they never measured him personally.
cmillzz said on 29/Jul/19
I personally wouldn’t go lower than 6’11 for peak Andre.
Riccardo 5'7" said on 29/Jul/19
If a 7 foot tall guy stand near an other 7 foot tall guy being shorter then him, it means that the guy is not 7 foot tall. Simple.
iconjj said on 26/Jul/19
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.
Monkey knees said on 25/Jul/19
7ft dead on, early 80s peak. Lost a lot by 1990... Lifestyle, height, wrestling took its toll. Absolute legend, mind. As a kid i was terrified of him!
Roderick said on 24/Jul/19
If Andre was measured a tad over 7'1" (7'1.25" Im guessing) then he was a tad over 7'1", but we have no 100% legit height measurements from Andre so we cant really go by measurements anymore.

I cannot see Andre being 7'1" or even a full 7'0. Maybe for a measurement he could scape 6'11", no taller than that IMO.
62B said on 23/Jul/19
I would be shocked if Andre ever measured 7'1" barefoot. He was just too far away from 7'3" ish Rik Smits when I saw him. He was also visibly shorter than Wilt, who was likely a little under 7'1" at the time. I can see 7'0 early morning, but evening he would most likely have been 6'11" and change peak.
Importer said on 23/Jul/19
@Roderick Okay :)
Boss said on 23/Jul/19
Quoted from: joe hamilton, ---

In 1968 in Vancouver, BC. Andre was measured on TV and Haystack Calhoun was weighed, the measurement and the weigh-in was legit. Andre measured 7ft. 1 & 1/4 in. and Calhoun who claimes to weigh 601 lbs. actually weighed 558-I think. I know it was 550-something.


Quoted from: travlr, ---

How do you know the measurements were legit?  Those guys gimmicks were their sizes, why would they risk hurting their ticket sales by letting shoot weights and heights be made public?  Andre also had big hair.  He could have been 6 ft. 9 with three or four inches of hair
 travlrMarch 18th, 2004 08:35 GMT 


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I have absolutley no reason to doubt that Mr. Hamilton saw what he saw, or is trying to "'fabe us".

I'm just wondering about the time-line....
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Well The Assassins and Haystack Calhoun were in Vancouver during 1968 on the card listed below


Quoted from: travlr, ---

I have absolutley no reason to doubt that Mr. Hamilton saw what he saw, or is trying to "'fabe us".

I'm just wondering about the time-line....


Quoted from: joe hamilton, ---

I don't have to "FABE" you as you put it, you do that to yourself. In case you haven't heard Kay-Fabe in wrestling died about 15 yrs. ago. It remains alive and well in other pro-sports however. When I attempt to answer questions I do it with the purpose in mind of being as accurate as I can, but when we talking well over 35 yrs, ago I may not have the dates exact, but if I tell you something happened it DAMN well happened and I remember it well or I don't mention it. The TV station that carried our wrestling show had coverage all over Canada, and Andre, who had not started wrestling there yet was doing advance publitity and a commentator on that station didn't believe he was that big or Calhoun weighed that much, so to prove him wrong, they taped a segment for his show pryor to taping our wrestling show. If you knew the commentator, who was always knocking wrestling




Quoted from: travlr, ---


Excellent!

Well, to add some to Mr. Hamilton's notes, the TV show was carried via most of the CTV Network stations throughout Canada (although not by the network itself, which was a little strange).  The announcer in question might have been Ron Morrier, who was brought in by Gene Kiniski.  Ron worked for Vancouver All-Star for over 20 years, as well as working at BCTV in other capacities.  Big Thunder never told Ron what was going to be happening, so he was always surprised, and showed it.  He was prettymuch loved by the local/regular workers in
Riccardo 5'7" said on 22/Jul/19
6'10.5 max for his peak. 6'9 in his last day?
RoelC said on 21/Jul/19
Boss said on 18/Jul/19
@RoelC.
I just don't see him making this whole story up. There is a way too many things to the story and Jody seems like a pretty straight shooter to me anyway. He was remembering back 30 years so he might have forgotten the newscasters name as he mentioned. Also, Andre gave a height of 2.18m when asked by family or friends so he might have been giving his height in shoes but it's right in line with Hamilton's account. His tailor measurement's also back up Andre being in 7' range as well.
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Jody Hamilton himself said he remembered it well, or he wouldn't have mentioned it. So why specifically mention the newscaster if he didn't remember his name. That name is crucial into determing if there is any truth in Hamilton's story.
Pdoggy said on 21/Jul/19
The other compelling fact is that Jody Hamilton actually acknowledges kayfabe by saying Andre went from 7 1 to 7 6 in the advertisement. Why would he make up 7 1?? Why not some other arbitrary height??
Roderick said on 21/Jul/19
@Importer I meant he looked short compared to his old self. I'm 5'11" so I have no business calling 6'9" short Lol.
Importer said on 20/Jul/19
@Roderick your comment on 5/Jul/19 certainly gave me that idea.
Roderick said on 19/Jul/19
@Importer When did I call 6'9" short?
Importer said on 18/Jul/19
Lol @Roderick are you seriously calling 6'9 short?
Boss said on 18/Jul/19
Also, Hamilton mentioned Andre wasn't wrestling in North America yet which was exactly right. How would he remember all these fine little details because he was telling the truth. Also, Jody was actually there for the Andre's measurement and the weighing of Haystacks Calhoun.
Boss said on 18/Jul/19
@RoelC.
I just don't see him making this whole story up. There is a way too many things to the story and Jody seems like a pretty straight shooter to me anyway. He was remembering back 30 years so he might have forgotten the newscasters name as he mentioned. Also, Andre gave a height of 2.18m when asked by family or friends so he might have been giving his height in shoes but it's right in line with Hamilton's account. His tailor measurement's also back up Andre being in 7' range as well.
Roderick said on 18/Jul/19
Sorry about my comment.

I thought all those listings were common knowledge, didnt know it was rumor. Thanks for pointing that out guys.

Aside from those, I think Andre was 6'11" max peak, and probably more like 6'10.5".

I wont go by rumor anymore, only direct fact.
RoelC said on 17/Jul/19
Boss said on 16/Jul/19
The measurement was probably in shoes or ring gear. What are we just supposed to ignore it. You provide something with as much detail of Andre being measured and Jody completely back up his story when you guys questioned him on it and I didn't see you arguing with him about it because he was clearly telling the truth.
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Jody Hamilton is just telling you exactly what you wanna hear: that Andre was over 7ft tall. We all know that's all you're interested in! Any info that points in that direction is accepted without questions asked and every info that points the other direction is flat out ignored by you.

I wasn't part of the original discussion back then on Kayfabememories. Don't know why you're implying like I was. But the people who were, were also questioning the timeline and all Jody Hamilton replied was: If I tell you it happened, it damn well happened.
Yeah that's one way to end a discussion. He provided no back-up to his claim. Why do you keep telling he did! Hamilton might've written an interesting story, but he doesn't back it up with evidence.
You tell me why he didn't mention the name of the person who measured Andre and weighed Calhoun. He made a big deal about the guy on 'kayfabememories', saying that the measurements were legit and that the guy who measured them both was always knocking pro-wrestling. Yet not once, does Hamilton mention the guy's name and instead refers to him as the 'tv-guy'.

Hamilton's claim holds no more value than Meltzer's claim of Andre being measured in France. As neither one has any back-up proof. And you're probably one of the most vocal persons to have spoken against Meltzer's claim. You even posted Andre's match listings back then and trying to prove Andre wasn't in France at the time. There are no match results of Andre wrestling in Canada in 1968 either, yet now you don't seem to have any problem with that. Why's that I ask?

If Andre was measured in shoes or ring gear he would've still been over 7ft barefoot and according to his billings at the time, he clearly wasn't. No way would a 7ft+ wrestler get listings of 6'10"-6'11" in pro-wrestling. Especially considering his size was his gimmick.
If Andre was measured over 7ft1 why did he allow himself to be listed inches under that mark for several years.
edwards said on 17/Jul/19
@ johan the second picture of andre and vince ,andre is standing on something that's why he looks taller
@dan trojan agreed dude
ASC said on 16/Jul/19
Years ago I read that Andre was measured at 6’10” after passing away. I recall this being reported in Sports Illustrated but I cannot find that quote in their archive, so it’s possible it was a different publication. I know without the text, this post is suspect, but I’m throwing it out there in case it leads to that text.
Sotiris Gravas said on 16/Jul/19
@ken6-3 It's definitely you, lol. I would never, ever want to be Andre's size.
Boss said on 16/Jul/19
@ROELC

The measurement was probably in shoes or ring gear. What are we just supposed to ignore it. You provide something with as much detail of Andre being measured and Jody completely back up his story when you guys questioned him on it and I didn't see you arguing with him about it because he was clearly telling the truth.
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Mm said on 16/Jul/19
@RoelC,

It’s not a “theory”—it’s from Andre’s mouth. I also heard him say that.
ken6-3 said on 15/Jul/19
post these docs please.thanks

Roderick said on 7/Jul/19
Sotiris actually might be right...

The France military listed Andre as 6'10".

He was listed both as 6'9" and 6'10" in medical documents.

He wore cowboy boots to literally everywhere except the ring.

The thought of a 6'10" peak Andre bothers me... especially when growing up I thought he was 7'6"!
ken6-3 said on 15/Jul/19
is it me or @Sotiris seem to be jealous of these big guys? Guy should have his posting privileges revoked.

ps. 1987 was not peak Andrea.
RoelC said on 15/Jul/19
Boss said on 13/Jul/19
Andre was growing throughout the 60's into at least 1971 by his account. His billings were increasing into the early 70's because he was still getting taller. Andre started wrestling at age 17 and grew in height until age 24 or 25.
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That theory doesn't hold up when you look at all his billings and not just handpick a few of them like you're doing for obvious reasons.

Yes his billings in France were slowly increasing, but not by much.
His common billing in France was 2m10 and 140kg in 1966 and 1967, 2m11 and 144kg in 1968 and early 1969. He also had a few 2m08 billings in 1966 and 2m12 billings in 1969. It wasn't until he returned in 1970 that they started billing him at 2m14 and 171kg.

In the UK however he was billed 6'10" when he arrived in May 1969 and during the 2nd leg of his tour (from September onwards) he was billed at 6'11". Out of 5 promoters only one billed him at 7'.
So the UK billings obviously do not support the theory he was still growing at the time. 6'11" is the same height he was billed at in France from 1968 onwards and 6'10" was even less than his common billings from 1966 onwards. And the UK was a totally new territory for Andre, so excuses of UK promoters using old billings don't hold up.

His billings in the 70's are clearly exaggerated unless you believe he had a 2nd growth spurt at age 23.

And where does your Jody Hamilton claim fit into the theory of Andre still growing? You posted that claim about a million times over the past 4 years and always like to tell people how legit that measurement was. Hamilton claimed a measured height of over 7ft1 for Andre, yet he didn't even get billings that high until he went to Japan in 1970. Up until he made his North American debut in mid-1971 he was never billed taller than 2m14 in Europe.
Dan Trojan said on 15/Jul/19
Johan that second picture of andre and vince andre us standing on something that's why he looks taller
Johan 185 cm said on 14/Jul/19
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Old pic of Vince and Andre.

Cowboyboots or vince in a hole?

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Looked here huge as well.

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Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Jul/19
@Kunoichi Bill Eddy saying Andre was 7'1" before he died makes Daniel reynolds look intelligent by comparison. Believing in something so ridiculous doesn't speak well of your intelligence, either.


It's like you're a cult member who needs to be deprogrammed. Kinda scary.
Boss said on 13/Jul/19
Andre was growing throughout the 60's into at least 1971 by his account. His billings were increasing into the early 70's because he was still getting taller. Andre started wrestling at age 17 and grew in height until age 24 or 25.

Here is Andre being billed at 7' in 1969.
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Here in late 60's or early 70's in France at 2.14m.
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Here in 1971 in France at 2.14m.
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Here on his first Japan tour at 2.18m
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cmillzz said on 13/Jul/19
I think what 62B estimated him at back in 1988 was what he actually was mid-morning. That would mean his low height would have been 6’10.5, maybe even a bit lower, but from what I’ve seen he had already lost an inch of height by then at least. I think a strong 6’11 range would be reasonable for Andre at his peak. Honestly even 7’0 wouldn’t have surprised me, but he probably never was that tall at a low.
Kunoichi said on 12/Jul/19
Bill Edie said once Andre's height was 7 ft 1 in one year before he died. Bill Edie is a very intelligent person and I would like to believe in his remarks.
Pdoggy said on 12/Jul/19
@RoelC

Well put. I may not agree with what your height estimate is on Andre but I certainly agree we need to stick to facts rather than speculations.
Roderick said on 11/Jul/19
When I watched a video on YT, it described Andre as 6'10" going into the France Military.

I don't make stuff up, I just write from observations. I have no reason to lie.

Also as for him being listed as 6'9" and 6'10", I thought that was common knowledge. I don't know where that's from.

I think Andre was 6'10.5"-6'11" and shrank to 6'9" before he died from my own observations, never 7'0".
Importer said on 11/Jul/19
A real life Spartan. Rest In Peace.
viper said on 10/Jul/19
No way he was only 6-10 peak
RoelC said on 10/Jul/19
Roderick said on 7/Jul/19
Sotiris actually might be right...
The France military listed Andre as 6'10".
He was listed both as 6'9" and 6'10" in medical documents.
He wore cowboy boots to literally everywhere except the ring.
The thought of a 6'10" peak Andre bothers me... especially when growing up I thought he was 7'6"!
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Where are those medical documents then? I've been posting here for over 13 years, yet I've never seen anyone post any medical document on Andre. But I have seen plenty of people claiming they saw such a document and funny enough the height in said document never seems to match with one another. People who want Andre to be 7ft or taller will claim they saw a document that has him at precisely such a height, and people who want Andre to be shorter than 7ft will claim they saw a document that has him below 7ft.

The documentary makers from HBO with all there money, resources and contacts couldn't find any official document that showed Andre's true height. They claimed medical documents were all destroyed. People that might've known Andre's true height were either sticking to kayfabe (like Hogan), exagerrating his height (both his brothers claimed Andre was 7ft2) or pretending they didn't know exactly how tall Andre was (like Vince McMahon). They apparently went to great lenghts to find an answer to Andre's true height & weight, but in the end they couldn't get a definitive answer to that question and support it with evidence. Yet here you are claiming you saw such documents!

According to the A&E biography Andre was rejected for service in the army. They might've measured him during his physical, but would such document still excist after 50+ years? And the French military wouldn't list people in feet and inches as they use the metric system.


If you wanna prove Andre was less than 7ft you could've just referred to his early height billings in Europe during the 60's. No need to make stuff up.
MelvinJones said on 10/Jul/19
Andre was only Wilt's height wearing his big heeled cowboy boots. Why do people still believe Andre was 7 feet or taller?
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Jul/19
@GST I agree that Andre was never more than 6'10.5".

As for everything else you said... Click Here

Just kidding, bro. This pretty much sums it up... Click Here
GST said on 9/Jul/19
@Sotiris you can’t call me bias, I rarely post here. And for the record Andre’s peak height is 6’10.5 peak imo. He never saw 7 foot.

That picture you used is awful regardless.
Pdoggy said on 9/Jul/19
@Roderick
Sounds great can you post the Military records you are referencing. I think it would be great info to have. All I have read is he was denied entry due to his size but I know of no measurements but they must have occurred.
cmillzz said on 9/Jul/19
6’10 peak would really surprise me. I thought even at the time of this death he was still near 6’10.
Sotiris Gravas said on 9/Jul/19
@RP Thanks, dude; I appreciate it. :)
ReturnofG said on 9/Jul/19
I'm sorry far too much evidence points to a plus 7 foot Andre in his prime.
Canson said on 8/Jul/19
@Boss and Dan Trojan: I never see anyone say that about Daniel Reynolds and he inflates immaculately. I agree with Dan trojan. People always pick on the person who estimates lower than Rob lists not the one who upgrades everyone
RP said on 8/Jul/19
@ Canson @ Sotiris....
Same here, Gentlemen.
I never really considered morning vs evening heights before discovering this site several years ago. My barefoot height would typically always get taken in the morning when doing sports physicals or yearly physicals @ the DR. Typically always between 8:30AM to 10AM. Even my own personal yearly physicals are still at age 43 done in the early AM... because they include yearly bloodwork. Which requires 8 hours of fasting. So, we schedule them early. Always between 8:30-9:30am. So, my entire life I thought I was over 5’11” @ 5’11 1/8” to 5’11 1/4”....however, actually going by This site’s Standards, I’m a hair under 5’11” @ 5’10 3/4” to 5’10 7/8”..and I’m just like Canson, when I do an evening height, my low depends on if I hit the gym hard that day or night. And Sotiris...keep up the posting, Big Man. Your estimates are almost spot on. I’ve meet many of these guys ...and you’ve been within a 1/2” on every single one I’ve met personally. When I say “these guys” ...I’m referring to the Pro Wrestlers, pro football players, body builders & strength athletes.
Roderick said on 7/Jul/19
Sotiris actually might be right...

The France military listed Andre as 6'10".

He was listed both as 6'9" and 6'10" in medical documents.

He wore cowboy boots to literally everywhere except the ring.

The thought of a 6'10" peak Andre bothers me... especially when growing up I thought he was 7'6"!
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Jul/19
I don't want my previous post to get lost in the shuffle.

Look at the 6'10" Joonas Suotamo and 5'8.75" John Boyega pics I posted vs. Andre and 5'9" Verne Gagne.

W/o question, Suotamo TOWERS over Boyega. The same cannot be said of Andre and Gagne:
Click Here Only while wearing his cowboys boots did Andre look as tall as Suotamo next to Gagne... Click Here

No way in hell Andre was ever 7 feet tall. This is my opinion based on photographic evidence.

As far as I'm concerned, I've already proven Rob's listings for guys like Andre, Hogan, Undertaker, Lou Ferrigno, Arnold Schwarzenegger, etc. are far too generous, yet the listings remain the same. I've reconciled myself to the fact that this is unlikely to change.
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Jul/19
@GST When someone posts a photo that favors Andre, it's perfection. If someone posts a pic where Andre isn't closer to the camera, it's laughable according to you. Thanks for your keen and biased insight, lol.


@Canson The most I ever wake up at is around 6'7.75". Other times, it's only 6'7.5". If I'm lounging around the couch all day on a lazy Sunday, my height can actually stay at 6'7.25" all day.

I can go speed-walking for 4 hours, come back and still be 6'7" at the end of a the day, though I also drop down to 6'6.75", especially after hitting the gym hard for 3 hrs, including the 4-mile to-and-fro walk.

(I actually did 20-mile walks for 3 days in a row recently and probably broke some of the metatarsal bones in the ball of my right foot b/c I was wearing old, worn-out sneaks w/ only 0.25" sole up front. The constant impact of my 285-lb frame certainly didn't help matters. I was also forced to rip off a big patch of skin due to the big blister that formed, exposing the very sensitive dermis layer underneath. Good times!)


@Boss Dude, you basically come out and say I have no credibility, you think I'm gonna just smile and say thank you...? Defending myself is not me being a bully. I have no problems w/ anyone thinking Andre was taller.
Dan Trojan said on 7/Jul/19
Boss i'll have to disagree with what you're saying now i know sotiris may argue with some people on here but it's not like sometimes they don't instigate it you're right everyone is entitled to their opinion including sotiris don't get me wrong me and him have got into it a few times but i can't really say that i didn't start it i don't agree with most of his estimations but on the other hand some of them he is spot on we've just gotten to the point where we can agree to disagree just leave it at that and you won't have problems
GST said on 6/Jul/19
@Sotiris - that photo you posted of Wilt has him a lot closer to the camera than Andre. Not as good of a photo as the one with Arnold in between them. No doubt Wilt is taller, but the photo you used is laughable to use it as a comparison.
Boss said on 6/Jul/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Jul/19
@Boss First of all, I don't give a (bleep) what you think, you posturing little court jester.

Before I stumbled upon CelebHeights last year, I didn't even know about things like "morning height" and thought I was actually shorter than I really am, not having bothered to really measure myself since high school. Having my past ignorance relitigated here by a pompous (bleep) like you serves no purpose other than to stroke your own ego.

I've used Twitter since 2011 and have posted around 21.5 thousand tweets, half being retweets, almost all of them dumb jokes, and can count the number of times I've mentioned Andre's height on the fingers of maybe one hand.

I based my opinion of Andre's height on a small handful of photos. Since then, I've done my due diligence and have posted more photos on this site than maybe anyone, and realize that Andre was at least 6'10" evening height, maybe 6'10.5" peak height.

You say I post JT photos which are "flawed," yet you just used a JT pic when responding to Pdoggy, lol. Are you even capable of understanding how ridiculous that makes you look?


This was Andre back in 1976 next to 5'9" Verne Gagne (billed 5'11"), looking around 6'10" when excluding the afro he obviously grew to make himself look taller... Click Here At 6'7", a 5'9" guy reaches my chin level. I already posted pics proving my height, and I always back up my opinion w/ photographic evidence, not just my word, you bloviating little


Think you can bully people here and I've seen you do it alot here. People should be free to post what they believe here without any name childish calling. You were the one claiming Andre was 6'8" peak height so it pretty much tells where your mindset is on this debate. You can easily respectfully disagree here. You would never talk like that to someone's face so don't be a keyboard coward. Andre was 7' range peak height and 6'10 range at the end as the evidence all points toward for me anyway.
Canson said on 6/Jul/19
@Sotiris: I never knew about morning and evening until after I came here. Even then I still didn’t realize little things like sitting recliner just a bit influenced your measurement. I remember I measured about a year after I came here once and was 6’4.5 I believe. Then I measured another time after work and got 6’4 3/8 or 1/4 so I figured it was from laying down. But I’ve repeated it several times and got the same. 195.7 out of bed 193.8 before if I don’t hit the gym. Today I have mornings when I’m right at 6’5 if I get less sleep and 6’4.25 at a low when I hit the gym. Other days it’s 6’5 1/16 and 6’4.25-.3
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/Jul/19
@Gretz The other guy w/ Bobby Orr was Carol Vadnais... Click Here

Wilt Chamberlain was measured on a table in his 40s at 7'0.5". A standing measurement would be closer to 7'0.25"... and he was 48 when he did "Conan the Destroyer" in 1984, so he wasn't at his peak height of around 7'0.75". Also, his footwear consisted of heels w/ only 0.5" as compared to Andre in cowboy boots... Click Here

Factoring Andre's footwear advantage, and Wilt's height loss over the years, Andre is still seen looking up at Wilt... Click Here

There's no way a cowboy-boot-wearing Andre was 6'11.5" barefoot in that pic next to Wilt who was max 7'0.75" in those shoes. A 6'11.5" Andre would have been 7'1.25" if his cowboy boots had a standard 1.75" heel. If Andre's boots were custom-made, a heel of 2" or more would make him being 6'11.5" barefoot even more impossible next to a taller Wilt.
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/Jul/19
Andre, 5'9" Verne Gagne, and 6'5" Chris Taylor in 1976... Click Here Compare this pic, as well as the other one I previously posted to 6'10" Joonas Suotamo and 5'8.75" (according to Rob) John Boyega (2019)... Click Here Footwear... Click Here

Here they both are w/ Suotamo not even standing straight and still looking taller than Andre w/ Gagne from way back in 1976... Click Here , Click Here

Still think Andre was 7 feet tall peak height? Never happened. Don't like it? Too (bleep) bad.
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Jul/19
@Boss First of all, I don't give a (bleep) what you think, you posturing little court jester.

Before I stumbled upon CelebHeights last year, I didn't even know about things like "morning height" and thought I was actually shorter than I really am, not having bothered to really measure myself since high school. Having my past ignorance relitigated here by a pompous (bleep) like you serves no purpose other than to stroke your own ego.

I've used Twitter since 2011 and have posted around 21.5 thousand tweets, half being retweets, almost all of them dumb jokes, and can count the number of times I've mentioned Andre's height on the fingers of maybe one hand.

I based my opinion of Andre's height on a small handful of photos. Since then, I've done my due diligence and have posted more photos on this site than maybe anyone, and realize that Andre was at least 6'10" evening height, maybe 6'10.5" peak height.

You say I post JT photos which are "flawed," yet you just used a JT pic when responding to Pdoggy, lol. Are you even capable of understanding how ridiculous that makes you look?


This was Andre back in 1976 next to 5'9" Verne Gagne (billed 5'11"), looking around 6'10" when excluding the afro he obviously grew to make himself look taller... Click Here At 6'7", a 5'9" guy reaches my chin level. I already posted pics proving my height, and I always back up my opinion w/ photographic evidence, not just my word, you bloviating little (bleep).
Roderick said on 5/Jul/19
I can't see 7'0" for Andre but I can easily buy 6'11". He might have honestly been as low as 6'9" or even 6'8.5" before he died. He lost a LOT of height. He looked very short.

Peak: 6'11"
Death: 6'9"
Boss said on 4/Jul/19
Pdoggy said on 3/Jul/19
If the death height of 6'10 is legitimate then even the peak height was under 7' club must see he lost height.....probably not.

Boss great facts as usual, especially the tailor info reposted again, nice.

Thanks Pdoggy.

Here clearly shows Andre's height loss done by JT I believe.

Click Here
Boss said on 4/Jul/19
Chuck Wepner was wearing cowboy boots with Andre in ring gear and Andre's head is pointing down in the pics your posting.

Here is Andre and Wepner both in cowboy boots but Andre's head is still titled down some.

Click Here
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Boss said on 4/Jul/19
@ Sotiris Gravas 
For starters a 6'8" peak Andre is a joke so your word on this page is pretty much pointless. You downgrade everyone in the world so I guess your the only person who gives his true height or do you really. You bash people with you snarky little comments when you don't think it fits your estimates. Thing is your estimate of Andre is wrong. You have provided nothing here but a tonn of pointless pictures and JT comparisons which are also flawed. You reference Melzters 6'9.75" guess but don't mention the fact Meltzer also had a past peak Andre at 6'11.5" in 1984 and 6'11 before he came to North America. Again with all the evidence we have on Andre we come out right around 7' for a peak and probably 6'10" when he passed. This is why Rob put his height at 7'. Also, Rob is probably one of the best judges of height on this planet so I'll take his estimate's over yours or anyone else's. You never reference this measurement of Andre which is the best and most detailed account of Andre ever being measured. He was probably in shoes or ring gear for measurement and it was well before he ever wore cowboy boots. Just read it you can tell by all the details it's legit.
Click Here
Roderick said on 3/Jul/19
There are medical reports from the 70s that list Andre as both 6'9" and 6'10". With the disease he had, I could imagine he grew into his 30s. I would say he was a legitimate 6'11" peak and shrunk to 6'9" before he died. No matter how tall he was though, he was always remain the greatest giant in all of sports entertainment history ;)
Pdoggy said on 3/Jul/19
If the death height of 6'10 is legitimate then even the peak height was under 7' club must see he lost height.....probably not.

Boss great facts as usual, especially the tailor info reposted again, nice.
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Jul/19
@NINJA 'Fro, bro.
Undertaker Frank said on 3/Jul/19
To Sotiris defense Andre did appear about 6ft 8 in those pics with Wepner & Jonathan but if you see the actual fight with Andre & Wepner Andre did have Wepner by atleast 4 inches minimum
Boss said on 3/Jul/19
NINJA said on 2/Jul/19
Sotiris- 6'8" bro???? Come on now!!!!!!! I think most of the evidence shows him to be 7ft or maybe a hair better in his prime, and gradually losing down to 6'10" ish during the twilight of his life.

Exactly right Ninja. That's the way the evidence points toward.
Gretz said on 2/Jul/19
Gravis and 62B i think we are close in our estimate of Andre`s peak height(and Gravis thanks for posting the hockey pics,if you get the time could you repost the pics of Andre back stage with the bruins.Who is the other guy Andre is picking up with Bobby Orr?)I met Andre at the philly spectrum in 1983 he was by far the biggest human I have ever met,I patted him on the back his torso was like a 55 gallon drum.If his legs where longer like Kevin Nash he would be 7'3" no question.i first posted pics of Andre in 1969 about 12 years ago,but most of the pics are with guys unknown to us.So I don`t think we will ever know his exact height.But my best estimate(and I also have 300 plus tapes of his matches)Is that if you measured Andre in 1972 out of bed he would be 7'.75".The pics with Wilt in 1984 he looks 6'11.5" to me,I have heard rumors that at wm3 Andre was 6'10".75.
NINJA said on 2/Jul/19
Sotiris- 6'8" bro???? Come on now!!!!!!! I think most of the evidence shows him to be 7ft or maybe a hair better in his prime, and gradually losing down to 6'10" ish during the twilight of his life.
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Jul/19
@Boss Thanks for stalking my Twitter posts, freak show. I used to think Andre was as low as 6'8", thanks to pics like this w/ 6'5" Chuck Wepner back in 1976 Click Here Does Andre look very tall there? No, he doesn't. Did he look especially tall next to 6'5" Don Leo Jonathan in 1972 or 6'4" Don Lane in 1978? No, he didn't. Guess what? W/ poor posture and certain angles, in certain pics he did look 6'8".

That was then, this is now. Those tweets I posted were dated Nov 6, 2017 and Jul 18 2018. Since then, I realized that he was max 6'10.5", maybe as low as 6'10" evening height, and easily looked 6'9" when slouching. Both Chuck Wepner and Chet Coppock thought he was 6'9". Did his giant afro make him look taller? Sure. I'm not counting his hair.

Do you still see me saying Andre was only 6'8"...? No. So, maybe shut the (bleep) up.


One of my tweets said this was Don Leo Jonathan... Click Here Since that tweet, I also corrected myself here by stating that was really Michael Nador.
Boss said on 1/Jul/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jul/19
@Boss The autopsy for Andre has him at 6'9.75". There's no way in hell he was 6'10.75" when he died. Stop pulling info out of your (bleep).

There was never a height given for Andre's autopsy only that the crematorium could fit a 6'10" man and Andre was too large to fit in and had to be cremated in America. These are facts.


Here are some are Sortiris Gravas estimate's of a peak Andre. You are truly trolling here. Where did you pull these from ?

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Click Here
NINJA said on 1/Jul/19
Sotiris/Boss,
Would it be possible to produce proof of said autopsy measurements? I have heard talk of these measurements, but only talk, no proof. If no proof can be produced, then its just two guys arguing senselessly over what they thought they read. Produce proof and put this baby to bed...
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jul/19
@Boss The autopsy for Andre has him at 6'9.75". There's no way in hell he was 6'10.75" when he died. Stop pulling info out of your (bleep).
Boss said on 28/Jun/19
Here is how a tailor does a backdrop or back length measurement and it's supposed to be done barefoot. It measures from bottom of shirt collar to the floor.

Click Here

Here we have a prime Andre's actual back length measurement of 74" or 6'2". You still have to add his head length and some neck to get his full height. Even if it was done in the 1" shoes he was wearing he would still be over 7'. You can't even read the measurements on paper looking at the picture but with auto zoom now it's easy to see so they are definitely his real measurements. He was being measured for a new suit.

Click Here

Again I will go with the actual facts over any guessing.
Canson said on 27/Jun/19
I agree with 62B. I think tip top peak 6’11” for Andre. Not 7’0”
Boss said on 27/Jun/19
Andre's autopsy Andre was actually supposedly 6'10.75" not 6'9.75". Though there has never been proof shown except the crematorium in France could fit up to a 6'10" man and Andre was too big to fit in it and had to be cremated back in America.
Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Jun/19
@Myself Love it! :D
62B said on 26/Jun/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Jun/19


@62B Andre is said to have been measured at 6'10" at the age of 24, which would have been in 1970. His autopsy records him as being 6'9.75" -- which I'm sure is more than he would've been if it were taken while standing.

I don't think he was ever more than 6'10.5" (big head or not, height is height) and he was maybe 6'9.25" by the end of his life, thanks to morbid obesity. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. What are your precise estimates? I could understand how some ppl might think he was 6'11" peak height, but as for 7 feet tall -- no way. There's no way he was around 2" shorter than Kareem -- zero chance.

I think I will always believe Andre was 6'11" when I saw him. I did debated between 6'10" and 6'11", but in the end I felt he was closer to 6'11". Seeing as I bumped into him in the morning I figure realistically evening he could have been 6'10.25"-6'10.5". I just don't know how much height he may have lost by the time I saw him. He did go out of his way to stand tall when he saw that I was fairly tall myself.
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Jun/19
@Boss Look at the image of Andre at the top of this page. Do you think that 6-inch-high afro was simply a stylistic choice on his part that was independent of the height he wanted to portray? What of his custom cowboy boots, w/ heels that were as big as 3" in some cases. Was that someone who wasn't height-conscious? Mark Twain famously said, "It's easier to fool ppl than to convince them that they've been fooled."

Look at the pics I already posted comparing Andre to 7'1.75" Kareem using Bill Shoemaker and Bill Anderson as benchmarks... Suggesting Andre was 7 feet tall is simply wrong based on photographic evidence... not vague recollections of ppl who might have seen him in the past. Eyewitness testimony is hardly reliable, especially from ppl that aren't "height experts."

As for why Rob lists Andre at 7 feet... This is his site. He's free to do as he pleases... It doesn't mean he's always right. Rob has Hogan at 6'6" peak height, which is also 100% wrong IMO. Hogan was max 6'5" -- and by 6'5", I don't mean maybe 6'5.5", I mean he was most likely only 6'4.5"... the same height as Bruiser Brody, as evidenced via pics of them standing beside Stan Hansen. Look at 6'4" Don Lane w/ Andre (both in cowboy boots) from 1978. Did Hogan look substantially taller than Lane? No, he didn't. Hogan almost always wore cowboy boots to look taller, not as a fashion choice.

I already posted video footage of John Studd looking max 6'5.5" next to 6'4.5" Bill Fralic, not the 6'6.5" that Rob has him at -- and Hogan was obviously shorter than Studd.

A shorter Hogan means a shorter Andre.




@62B Andre is said to have been measured at 6'10" at the age of 24, which would have been in 1970. His autopsy records him as being 6'9.75" -- which I'm sure is more than he would've been if it were taken while standing.

I don't think he was ever more than 6'10.5" (big head or not, height is height) and he was maybe 6'9.25" by the end of his life, thanks to morbid obesity. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. What are your precise estimates? I could understand how some ppl might think he was 6'11" peak height, but as for 7 feet tall -- no way. There's no way he was around 2" shorter than Kareem -- zero chance.
JT said on 25/Jun/19
Here’s Dominique Wilkins with Bill Russell (~ 6’10”), Michael Jordan (~6’5”), and Rick Barry (~6’7” and a solid inch taller than Big John Studd). Click Here wilkins was not over 6'7".

62B, if the camera angles are fairly close, you can get a pretty good idea how people will measure up height-wise in comparison photos. Click Here Scaling based on the same size object (the basketball), I come out a little over 2 inches shorter in socks than Carmelo Anthony, who’s probably a little over 6’7” in shoes, and a little over 3 inches shorter than Lebron James, who has always looked a solid inch taller than Anthony. Click Here I measured 6’5” at a physical a few months ago so the comparison again is pretty close to reality.

Just eyeball the pic of a young Andre with his 5’11” aunt (6’1” in heels) or 6'1" Frank Valois and a 7 foot b-ball player next to a guy around 6’1” or 6'2" in shoes and it should be obvious Andre was never close to 7 foot barefoot.

The Andre-Wilt photos are useless b/c these are the heels on Andre’s cowboy boots. Click Here

Your encounter with Andre is a great story to tell but, without a photo or video of the two of you, you would not be able to peg his height within probably 2-3 inches given the size difference between him and you. Just like I don’t believe the estimate of Chet Coppock (RIP) that Andre was only 3 inches taller than him, even though Coppock should have been able to estimate Andre's height more accurately than you as the height differential is less and he saw Andre numerous times. Coppock was also around many Chicago Bulls players who were taller than Andre (Bill Cartwright, Bill Wennington, Will Purdue, Luc Longley, Toni Kukoc, etc.)

Here’s Coppock next to Nikolai Volkoff Click Here who I stood next to backstage at the LA Sports Arena in 1986 and looked around 6’2” (and one of the few wrestlers who was not walking around in cowboy boots out of gear). Coppock may have a footwear disadvantage with Volkoff and Wilkins so maybe he’s around 6’5.5” and rounded up to 6’6”, which is fair.
Myself said on 24/Jun/19
@Sotiris
Yeah, DD's 6'3 friend was probably measured by Trump's doctor, lmao
Boss said on 23/Jun/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Jun/19
@Boss You have habitual liars like The Rock and Hogan who like to tell ppl that they're now 6'5". Who gives a crap what Andre told ppl his height was? These guys had a vested interest in promulgating their kayfabe BS.


Andre wasn't giving his kayfabe height of 7'4" and I think it is definitely relavent to his height discussion. Andre was a lot more truthful man than Hogan.
With all the proof presented here over the years Andre gets a 7' listing so you JT and some others are just not as good at judging height as you think. If so then why doesn't Rob have him at 6'10"?
62B said on 23/Jun/19
Sotiris, how much height, if any, do you figure Andre would have lost from say the mid 70's to 1988?
Lanky said on 23/Jun/19
Guys, what would we say is the lowest Andre could have possibly measured during his final years?
62B said on 23/Jun/19
Sotiris you cant just take two different photos, put them together and have them be anywhere near accurate for height comparisons. Its just not how it works. The camera angles and distances from the camera of both pictures would have to be spot on, which isn't likely to happen. JT superimposes pictures of Andre and basketball players, but none of them look anything like the real pictures of Andre and Wilt together.

Having stood right next to both Andre and listed 7'4" Rik Smits, I thought Andre was about 4" shorter. I can see Smits being a little under 7'4" due to basketball players of his era generally being listed as a shoe height. But if you scroll down this article about Smits, there is a picture of him looking comfortably taller than Shaq Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Jun/19
@Boss You have habitual liars like The Rock and Hogan who like to tell ppl that they're now 6'5". Who gives a crap what Andre told ppl his height was? These guys had a vested interest in promulgating their kayfabe BS.

Anyone w/ eyes can look at Kareem and Shoemaker vs. Andre (no cowboy boots this time) and Shoemaker and know for a FACT that Andre looked to be around 4" shorter.



@62B Wilkins was indeed 6'7" back then and Coppock was clearly 6'5" next to him... in other words, I wasn't downgrading him, despite your opinion to the contrary. As for JT's photos not being of any use, your comment is far too dismissive. While not 100% to scale, what he posts are close approximations. Why in the world would that be of no use?

Here's 6'7" Magic w/ Reggie Theus, maybe 6'5" peak (listed 6'7") in 2016... Click Here

Recent pic of height-loss Coppock w/ Theus... Click Here



This was 6'5" Theus and 6'10" Moses Malone (listed 6'10")... Click Here

Hogan (max 6'5" peak) and max 6'10.5" peak Andre (1987)... Click Here

6'5" Chuck Wepner and Andre (1976)... Click Here , Click Here
62B said on 21/Jun/19
The best pictures out there so far, for height guestimates, are of Wilt and Andre. JT, I know you mean well, and its kind of a hobby for you, but most, if not all, of the Altered Photos you post just aren't of any use. Not anymore than my personal experience with out any photographic proof. I'll give you that Coppock looks an inch and a half to maybe two inches shorter than Dominique Wilkins in your video, but do you really know he was 6'7" flat? Do his basketball shoes give him an advantage over Coppock? We don't really know. And why should we take Coppocks estimate of Andre's height if you don't even want to believe what he said his own height was?
Boss said on 21/Jun/19
myself


Welcome DD. Here is the most by far the most detailed account of Andre ever being measured. Probably in his wrestling boots or early morning measurement.

Click Here


Andre claimed a height of 2.14m in 1971 video of him in France. Also, when Andre was asked his height by friends or family he always said 2.18m or 7'1.5" we learned from Andre's nephew Boris Rousimoff. Frenchy Bernard said Andre was measured while in Japan being diagnosed for his condition Andre was measured at 7'0.5" by a doctor. Andre's head was 12.5" to 13" range which makes other tall people look taller in comparison because of their height view points are higher than Andre's but Andre's torso and head are much longer.

Here Andre standing in exact same spot with same camera angle with his head up and with his head slightly down. There is a 2" difference when he stands straight. Andre rarely stood with posture as to be measured as most tall men do.

Click Here

Here are Andre's cowboy being measured with a 2" heel. The same style boot as with Wilt.
Click Here

I would take these facts over any guessing that's done here. The comparisons here are altered and suited to fit people's guesstimate's and everyone in the world is 1" or 2" then they say they are or they were actually measured at.
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Jun/19
@D.D. Guns Your post was definitely entertaining. Not in the least bit informative as per reality, mind you, but entertaining nonetheless.

You say you (6'0") look just as tall as your 6'3" friend, and sometimes taller in most of your pictures together... That's nonsense.

You'll forgive me if I don't believe anything you have to say. No offense.
D.D. Guns said on 20/Jun/19
I love this site. Longtime follower.

That said, there is no way this guy was under 7 feet peak. I hate to be a cliche but this place consistently downgrades people.

I’m 44, I have been in the wrestling business since I was 23. I myself am 72 inches tall barefoot. I got measured last week as I am still in the military. I have worked with guys from 5’6 to 7’0. Anything less than a peak 6’8 taker, peak 6’8 Kane, and peak 6’10 Nash is insane. I am talking barefoot height. Big show is at least 6’11 now and was minimum 7 at his peak.

It’s easy to judge from a far, but height is subjective. My best friend is 6’3 but we look the same height in most of our pictures together. I even look taller in a few pictures.

6’10 is out of the question for this guys peak height. I would believe 7’2 before 6’10. Bring the hate.
JT said on 19/Jun/19
Here’s Chet Coppock with Dominique Wilkins, who was around 6’7” Click Here

Click Here The top video shows poor Andre getting out of a car in 1985 although wearing cowboy boots did not help. The heels on those boots Click Here


cmillzz said on 17/Jun/19
6’10 peak is way too low. Maybe in his later years, but not in the early 70s.

Click Here This is 1970 when Andre supposedly stopped growing. Andre’s 5’11” aunt is around 6’1” in heels; Darren Collison measured 6’1.5” in shoes. Roy Hibbert is probably strong 7’2” in shoes. There’s no way Andre came close to 7’0” barefoot at his peak; in cowboy boots, yes.
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Jun/19
@Mm Yeah... :)... I know. What I posted is what I think of Pdoggy's comments. In other words: not much. Maybe I should've posted something like this for him, lol... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Jun/19
@62B You're right, Coppock did indeed claim 6'6", but I think He was 6'6" in shoes from pics that are available. I put Jordan max 6'4.75" peak and I don't consider Coppock having been noticeably taller based on a pic like this... Click Here This was him w/ Hogan... Click Here

Coppok w/ Hogan, along w/ Jimbo Covert (listed 6'4") and Otis Wilson (listed 6'2"): Click Here

Here he was w/ Mike Ditka (listed 6'3")... Click Here , Click Here

W/ maybe 6'0.5" Arnie.... Click Here

This was a much older Coppock w/ Otis Wilson and Andre Dawson (listed 6'3" peak): Click Here I doubt he was ever 6'6" barefoot.


Andre was never more than 6'10.5" IMO, and I really do think he could have been as low as 6'10", that short ppl could have easily mistaken for taller -- especially b/c of his big afro... and was max 6'9.5" when he passed away. This was Andre at the age of 30 in 1976 w/ 5'9" (not 5'11") Verne Gagne: Click Here Remember, he's said to have been measured as 6'10" when he was 24. Even w/ a huge head, Andre looks max 6'10" there, not 6'11", definitely not 7 feet tall. Again, this was Andre in his prime, not looking taller than 6'10".
cmillzz said on 17/Jun/19
6’10 peak is way too low. Maybe in his later years, but not in the early 70s.
62B said on 16/Jun/19
Sotiris. A 1988 Andre was still in the 6'10"-6'11" range. Coppock always claimed 6'6" and was noticeably taller than guys like Jordan who were right around 6'5". No need to down grade anyone.
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Jun/19
@Dan Trojan You have tall 6'5" guys like Chuck Wepner and Chet Coppock (who tragically passed away recently), who thought he was only 6'9", so, I'm pretty sure Andre was never 6'11", let alone 7 feet tall.

Supposedly, his autopsy had him at 6'9.75". However, being measured on a table is not the same as standing and having all of that weight bearing down. Also, supposedly, he measured in at 6'10" at the age of 24.

Many ppl think Andre was easily 7'0" b/c Hogan was 6'7"... but Hogan was never more than 6'5" peak height... making something like 6'10" a lot more believable. (I actually think Hogan might have been 6'4.5" peak.)

One more thing: ppl love saying Andre's head was HUGE. The thing is, all of that head size doesn't translate to added height... Some of that is simply a bigger acromegalic jaw which hangs lower... not more height. Many ppl fail to understand this. Keep in mind that Maurice Tillet's big head was under 11.5" long... Click Here The head sculpt which shows Tillet's head as 13.5" is bogus:
Click Here
Mm said on 14/Jun/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Jun/19
@Pdoggy Hahahahaha. Definitely, brother... Click Here

@Sotiris
Pdoggy might be referring to some of your comparisons. Just saying.
Dan Trojan said on 14/Jun/19
Honestly sotiris i know i don't agree with you on much but i do with andre the giant i truly think he was never more than 6'10"
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Jun/19
@Pdoggy Hahahahaha. Definitely, brother... Click Here
Pdoggy said on 11/Jun/19
Like I said.

Haven't been on for a very long time still see all the hilarious way out of wack comparisons comments made just comical.
Big ed said on 11/Jun/19
How big do reckon Anderson's head is because if you put another of his heads on top he still wouldn't be as tall as Andre most adult male be 9-10" his head looks quite big with ultimate warrior so again Andre taller than 6'10 and he wouldn't have been as tall then anyway compared to a 1972 Andre
Sotiris Gravas said on 11/Jun/19
@Halb Much obliged, good sir. (Always nice to get some positive feedback.)
Halb said on 8/Jun/19
Some good work there Sotiris Gravas, I reckon you're bang on for most of it.
JT said on 7/Jun/19
Click Here Nick Pond (top left photo) was listed as 6’4” when he played basketball at North Carolina State in the mid-50s.
JT said on 7/Jun/19
Click Here The woman (Kristin Chenoweth – 4’10” per Rob) would probably be close to 5’1”, or around an inch taller than 4’11” Bill Shoemaker in shoes, if standing straight in those boots. Boban Marjanovic looks strong 7’2” to 7’3”.
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Jun/19
@Big Ed This is Andre vs. 7'1.75" Kareem.... Click Here Does Andre look 6'11" there? The answer to that is a resounding NO. He looks max 6'10.5", I daresay, as low as 6'10".

Bill Anderson w/ Kareem (not standing straight)... Click Here

Anderson w/ Andre (closer to camera)... Click Here
Anderson/Andre (closer) in 1974... Click Here

Anderson w/ Khali... Click Here

JT superimposed pic of Andre vs. Ernie Ladd (6'7" peak height) w/ Anderson... Click Here
Ladd w/ 6'2" peak height George H. W. Bush... Click Here

As for Anderson's height, here he is w/ Ultimate Warrior... Click Here , Click Here

Anderson/6'1" Vince McMahon... Click Here

W/ 5'9" Van Damme... Click Here
MelvinJones said on 6/Jun/19
I still can't believe that people think that billed heights are actually real. Vince McMahon luvs you guys!
Big ed said on 5/Jun/19
Sotiris gravas all your comparasions are way off proportion just to suit wat u want, giant Baba was 3" taller than Hogan Andre was 4" taller than Baba there's only 1 picture of Andre were he looks under 7ft and thats with wilt an even then we don't know were the camera was it could easily have been angled in favour of wilt not intentionally cameras are usually angled left to right that's why people standing on the left look taller he may have been 6'11 anything less peak I don't think so
Sotiris Gravas said on 4/Jun/19
Elgin Baylor w/ Kareem (and Wilt, etc.) in 1992... Click Here , Click Here

And in 2017... Click Here

Compare this w/ my previous post.
Sotiris Gravas said on 4/Jun/19
Kareem and Arnie on the set of "Commando" (1985)... Click Here

Arnie and Andre... Click Here

Some JT composite pics of Andre:
Andre vs. Kareem... Click Here
Vs. 6'8" James Worthy... Click Here
Vs. Elgin Baylor (listed 6'5")... Click Here

6'7" Magic and Baylor (2014)... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 4/Jun/19
This is for Gretz:

Maybe 7'0.5" height-loss Kareem and Wayne Gretzky (2014)... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 4/Jun/19
Pdoggy Great to have you back, dude... Click Here
Pdoggy said on 3/Jun/19
Haven't been on for a very long time still see all the hilarious way out of wack comparisons comments made just comical.
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Jun/19
Another guy whose height gets inflated is Nikolai Valuev. Supposedly once listed as 7'4", then 7'2", now 7'0". Editor Rob lists "Nicolai" as 6'11", though, I think he might just be 6'10", even w/ that big head of his.

Seen here w/ 6'2" David Haye... Fact Click Here vs. Fiction Click Here

Remind you of anybody, lol ... Click Here


This doesn't look like 6'11" next to 6'1" Evander Holyfield... Click Here He looks taller here... Click Here Andre/6'1" Frank Valois... Click Here

Holyfield and maybe 7'0.5" Roy Hibbert (not standing straight)... Click Here


Here's a superimposed image of Hibbert w/ Andre crafted by fellow poster JT Click Here

Here's a composite pic of Hibbert w/ Big Show... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jun/19
Kareem (maybe 7'0.5" now) and 6'0.75" Obama (2016)... Click Here

Andre and 6'1" Frank Valois (1975)... Click Here

Does Andre look around the same height as Kareem? Obviously not. Remember, that was way back in 1975. Regardless of whether or not Editor Rob ever downgrades him, Andre was never 7 feet tall. It has less to do w/ my opinion and more to do w/ fact.

Even debating whether or not he was 7 feet tall is silly... Click Here He was probably max 6'10.5" peak height.
Sotiris Gravas said on 31/May/19
@Jesica It's always nice to hear from a lady... I'm honored. Truly.

Harley Race (billed 6'1") w/ max 5'10" Mr. T... Click Here

Race and maybe 5'8" peak height Sly Stallone (circa 1978)... Click Here

Race and Backlund... Click Here

Race, Backlund, and Vince Sr. Click Here

Maybe 6'1" peak Vince Jr. and Sr. Click Here


If Backlund ever looked 6'0", it was 100% thanks to footwear. Here's a nice recent pic of Backlund w/ 6'1" Ryback (billed 6'3")... Click Here Backlund w/ Sid Eudy Click Here

Backlund, Nick Bockwinkel (billed 5'10"), and Harley Race... Click Here

Andre was never as tall as most ppl swear by. A 6'10.5" guy can easily be mistaken for 7 feet tall by short ppl. At least, that's my humble opinion.
RP said on 31/May/19
Bob Backlund peak: barefoot: 5’11 1/2”
In regular shoes: 6’0 1/2” to 6’0 3/4”
IMO
Big ed said on 31/May/19
Thanks rp ye had about 5" on studd certainly around 1983 studd had higher heals and around 6" on Hogan early 80s then around 5 by wrestlemania 3 although Hogan has his head well raised in the standoff hard to get him in a good picture wi Ernie Ladd most evidence points to 7ft for Andre that I've seen he rarely stands to his full height in pictures
Jesica said on 30/May/19
Sotiris,

I think Bob Backlund was 6'0 or very close to it. I remember reading stats on him when he was wrestling in the NCAA. They listed him at 6'0. This was before his WWF days, which listed him at 6'1(probably with shoes on). As for Andre, I think he approached 7'0. I can't see him less than 6'11.5 at his peak.
RP said on 30/May/19
@ Big Ed
Ron Fuller: 6’7 1/2”
Hulk Hogan: 6’5 1/4”
Big John Studd: 6’6 3/4”
Giant Baba: 6’8”
iconjj said on 30/May/19
I'm going to say at this point that the 6'10 was an accurate average height and I'm not ruling out that he could have hit 6'11 at some point. The wwf actually gives this away in a sense by adding 6 inches to his height, which is why you hear 7'4/7'5-...6'10/6'11. They actually did the same thing with Gonzales 7'6- 8'0... Doing the math is irrelevant here look at how wwf did their inflations. Makes sense.
But if you start with the 6'8 junk you've lost any credibility in my eyes as that has been disproved multiple times here already before half of you started posting. When you have to start downgrading everyone else's height to make your point then you're really reaching.
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/May/19
Mm Bob Backlund was billed as 6'1", but that obviously wasn't his real height. Here he is w/ Nick Bockwinkel (billed 5'10")... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here

Backlund and Andre... Click Here

5'11" (billed 6'1") Ric Flair (maybe 5'10.5") and Andre... Click Here

5'11" (billed 6'1") Dino Bravo and Andre... Click Here


Backlund and 5'9" Ricky Steamboat (billed 5'10")... Click Here

Flair and Steamboat... Click Here , Click Here


In other words, Backlund wasn't 6'0"-6'1"... and Andre was NEVER 7 feet tall.
Big ed said on 29/May/19
What height was Ron fuller John studd giant Baba Hulk Hogan these should be the comparasions made these were the tall men around him the most no point in trying to estimate his height with guys like Bruno it doesn't make sense he was around the 7ft mark or a little above peak then a little under that in his last 5 years
Big ed said on 29/May/19
What height was Ron fuller John studd giant Baba Hulk Hogan these should be the comparasions made these were the tall men around him the most no point in trying to estimate his height with guys like Bruno it doesn't make sense he was around the 7ft mark or a little above peak then a little under that in his last 5 years
Halb said on 28/May/19
THere's a new match on WWE yt. André and Hulk tag, both at peak height.
Mm said on 28/May/19
Andre’s height varied quite a bit depending on his posture. He never had very good posture. Obviously it was worse when he was 500lbs+. The one photo that still has me convinced that he was 7’0 was the photo with 6’0-6’1 Bob Backlund. Andre has relatively good posture in that photo and he’s a full head(12”) over Bob, and Andre was wearing thin wrestling shoes. Bob has thick heeled wrestling shoes.
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/May/19
Andre and Frank Valois (listed 6'1") Click Here from 1975... Click Here

6'0.5" Andy Richter w/ maybe 6'11.5" Shaq (2019)... Click Here

That's a BIG difference. Andre was obviously nowhere near 7 feet way back in 1975 when not in custom-made cowboy boots w/ massive heels.

Another look at Andre (closer to camera) and Valois... Click Here

@Editor Rob Your thoughts...? You pretty much know mine. Andre was never 7 feet tall. Perhaps he was max 6'10.5" peak height.


Here's a 2019 pic of Shaq w/ Kareem, proving Shaq is under 7 feet now... Click Here
tree said on 27/May/19
Too bad Andre was not this tall 6ft10 Martyn Bayfield with hagrid costume Click Here
Canson said on 27/May/19
@Cmillz and Viper: he didn’t look over 6’11 flat with Wilt
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/May/19
@JT Nice 1975 video of a 29-year-old Andre. This is Andre in cowboy boots in 1978 next to a 6'4" Don Lane, also in cowboy boots... Click Here Andre looks all of 6'10" barefoot here, which means Hogan was never 6'8", lol.

As for Nick Bockwinkel, he was billed as 5'10", whereas Bobby Heenan was billed as 6'0". I'll admit, sometimes Bockwinkel looked taller than he should. Here he is next to Sly Stallone, who I think might have been 5'8" peak height... Click Here

Here's 5'11" Heenan w/ Bockwinkel (and Ray Stevens, billed as 5'8")... Click Here
Heenan/Bockwinkel... (1984) Click Here , Click Here
JT said on 25/May/19
Two new videos from former poster Chris Click Here Frank Valois was around 6’1” so this is before Andre started wearing cowboy boots Click Here

Click Here Add at least an inch to Andre given Shaq’s footwear advantage but the height difference still would have been significant.

Click Here Nick Bockwinkel was a little taller than Bobby Heenan and around Bob Backlund’s height. Andre in cowboy boots would not have been this tall next to Bockwinkel.
Canson said on 24/May/19
@62B: he was noticeably shorter than Wilt Chamberlain. He def wasn’t 7’0” at a low I agree. I think what you guessed him at in person he was. It’s just that most people here won’t accept that. By deduction Hogan would be max 6’5.5
cmillzz said on 24/May/19
Maybe 6’11.5” at a low in his prime?
viper said on 23/May/19
Probably right Canson.

There is a picture of him at a local restaurant there back in the early 70s.

He flat out looks 7-0 physically with others around him.

But 6-11 can give that illusion as well
62B said on 23/May/19
Canson said on 21/May/19
He was peak 6’11 range not 7’
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I have to agree when it comes to peak evening. I was always a pro 7" peak Andre. But 7'0" in the morning makes the most sense. My guess Is that He probably lost a solid inch from the time he woke up until the time he went to bed. Maybe even a fraction more. I will probably always stick to 6'11" in the morning of 1988 when I bumped into him. However I think most of the time in the mid to late 80's evening in video's and pictures he looks more in the 6'10 - 6'10.5" range. No doubts for me that his poor posture has a huge affect in his standing around height. @Sotiris and JT. That picture you guys like to circulate of Andre and Arnold in the ring is useless for height comparison, as the camera angle hugely favors Arnold. All things considered, I don't think Wilt had more than 1.5" on Andre during Conan.
Canson said on 21/May/19
He was peak 6’11 range not 7’
James Brett 172cm said on 20/May/19
Sandy- someone of Andres size would never have been destined too live too 73 sadly
Sotiris Gravas said on 19/May/19
Arnie (looking up) and Shaq... Click Here

Arnie looking up to Wilt... Click Here

Arnie and Andre... Click Here



More Arnie/Wilt pics... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 19/May/19
Andre shaking hands w/ Vince McMahon Sr. Click Here

Sr. and Jr. Click Here

Sr. and Bruno Sammartino... Click Here


Older Bruno and Killer Kowalski... Click Here
Killer and 6'8" Scott L. Schwartz... Click Here
Killer and Studd... Click Here

Bruno and 6'5.5" Primo Carnera... Click Here

Bruno and Giant Baba... Click Here
Vince Sr., Dory Funk Jr., and Baba... Click Here

Andre w/ Bruno and Verne Gagne... Click Here
Vince McMahon Sr. w/ Bruno and Verne Gagne... Click Here


5'9" Bruno and Andre... Click Here
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 19/May/19
Andre would have turned 73 today. He lived a tragically short life of 46 years.

RIP Andre xxx 💐🌸🌹🏵️🌷🥀💐

7ft.
Ironman092289 said on 18/May/19
A solid 6'11 fellow, maybe close to 7'0 at his full peak. At his death honestly, he lost a lot of height. Maybe 6'9.75" when he died.
JT said on 17/May/19
Click Here
Click Here
Annonymous said on 12/May/19
Hockey skates give you 3.25-3.5 inches, so that is just stupid and not good to use..Probert is standing 6'6.5-6'7 in skates. If you see NHLers in equipment they look ginormous on even ground yet get them out of gear and skates after the game they quickly look more normal.
RP said on 12/May/19
@ 62B...all good points you made.
RP said on 11/May/19
@ Sotiris
Looks like Bob Probert is probably in full uniform & skates with Hillbilly Jim. Those ice skate will give you about a 1.5” to 1.75” footwear advantage over a sneaker. Which is likely what Jim had in seeing HD was wearing zubaz workout pants.
62B said on 10/May/19
Gretz. I know you have spent tons of time researching Andre. Personally I don't think he was ever 7'1". Andre was just to far away from a true 7'3" guy when I saw him, and all of the Wilt pictures back that up. I get it I have no tangible proof, only a personal experience. Still, reality I think is a peak Andre at 7' morning and probably down to 6'11 before bed. Broken down Andre early 90's probably still had an afternoon standing around height of 6'9+ with the ability to stretch out to over 6'10" if he wanted to.
62B said on 10/May/19
RP said on 8/May/19
Sotiris! A very telling video of Andre there with the manager slick ... and yes it is true that Slick’s true legit height was 6’3” ! He often got billed @6’4” & 6’5”. But, he’s actually 6’3”. Slick did wear cowboy dress boots a lot though. Also, take note...That André with shoes on was shorter than that 7’0” doorway. But, we all know that was older broken down André ... approximately 1.5” to 2” shorter than his peak height of the 1970s into the early 1980s. By judging from that 7’0” doorway...André at that point was 6’10.5” with shoes on. Possibly if he was to stretch out as much as possible he maybe could’ve pulled off a 6’11” measurement with those shoes on. But, this does confirm that late 1980s Andre with shoes on and at night time was indeed shorter than 7’0”... The question is how thick were the soles in those shoes ? I’d say 6’9.5” evening barefoot height for a late 1980s Andre the giant is a pretty accurate guess...IMO. If slick was wearing his dress cowboy boots like he did a lot in that era ... he would’ve been standing approximately 6’4.75”... and by taking that into factor along with the doorway ...André looks 6’10.5” (in-shoes) there.

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RP, not sure what year that video was. But if those doors are in fact 7', then the door way itself is at least 7'1". Andre also never even came close to standing straight in that clip. A broken down Andre probably did have a standing around height of 6'9.5", but he also gave up lot in posture in those days. More than a half an inch for sure.
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/May/19
@Gretz To me, Hillbilly Jim and Hogan were around the same height, max 6'5", provided Hogan wasn't in his cowboy boots and they had equal footwear... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here

Hillbilly and Hogan with max 6'2" IRS and max 6'4" Barry Windham... Click Here Hogan looks max 6'5" here, not 6'6" or 6'6.5". At least, IMHO.
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/May/19
@RP Yeah, I definitely agree that Slick's in his cowboys boots there. As for a Andre at this point in his life, he definitely has poor posture and looks to be 6'9.5"... perhaps even as low as 6'9".

Here's max 6'3" Dwyane Wade w/ max 6'8" Alonzo Mourning... Click Here

As compared to Slick and Andre... Click Here





@Gretz Agreed, dude, this is an older Andre, not Andre in his prime. To Andre's credit, a tall guy can easily look 1" shorter w/ bad posture, or a weird camera angle, so maybe he was taller than I believe... That said, maybe he was 6'11" peak height as a young, thin man.

Andre and 6'5" Hogan (1979)... Click Here

6'10" Moses Malone w/ 6'4.75" Charles Barkley... Click Here


Keep in mind, this was 7'1.75" Kareem and 4'11" Bill Shoemaker vs. Andre (no cowboy boots) and Shoemaker... Click Here That's a difference of around 4" IMHO. (I also see Shoemaker as 4'10" online.)


I know you're a hockey fan, so here's Hillbilly Jim w/ 6'3" Bob Probert... Click Here
Probert, Messier, and Gretzky (1988)... Click Here
Gretz said on 8/May/19
the problem is Gravis you are showing an old run down giant.
Gretz said on 8/May/19
How was Andre 6'10" when hillbilly Jim was 6'5 or 6'5.5".and Hogan was an inch taller.Andre at ww3 was 5 inches + taller than him.Backstage they thought he was 6'10.75,he was probably 6'11'.In 1972 he was close to 7'1" look at the cake pics.
Dustin M Williams said on 8/May/19
Sotiris
That is a 7 ft door Andre is standing next to, and this is Andre at his worst physically. Not a good clip to judge by. I don’t know if you noticed all the hunching and hobbling...Look up this version of Andre next to Tenta, who was 6’5” at the bare minimum. Even a broken down crippled Andre looks 6’10” compared to Tenta. Not 7’4” or 5, but definitely taller than 6’9” or 10” peak height.
RP said on 8/May/19
Sotiris! A very telling video of Andre there with the manager slick ... and yes it is true that Slick’s true legit height was 6’3” ! He often got billed @6’4” & 6’5”. But, he’s actually 6’3”. Slick did wear cowboy dress boots a lot though. Also, take note...That André with shoes on was shorter than that 7’0” doorway. But, we all know that was older broken down André ... approximately 1.5” to 2” shorter than his peak height of the 1970s into the early 1980s. By judging from that 7’0” doorway...André at that point was 6’10.5” with shoes on. Possibly if he was to stretch out as much as possible he maybe could’ve pulled off a 6’11” measurement with those shoes on. But, this does confirm that late 1980s Andre with shoes on and at night time was indeed shorter than 7’0”... The question is how thick were the soles in those shoes ? I’d say 6’9.5” evening barefoot height for a late 1980s Andre the giant is a pretty accurate guess...IMO. If slick was wearing his dress cowboy boots like he did a lot in that era ... he would’ve been standing approximately 6’4.75”... and by taking that into factor along with the doorway ...André looks 6’10.5” (in-shoes) there.
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/May/19
Wanna know why ppl think Andre was taller than he really was...?

B/c they look at this... Click Here

Instead of this... Click Here


Remember, kids... wrestling is fake. Also, Hogan once said that Slick (billed 6'4") was really 6'3".
Halb said on 5/May/19
Top line for André's head is too high, we know from pics that he had a very short brow which barely went higher as it got into his hairline
Johan 185 cm said on 4/May/19
Jesica said on 30/Apr/19
Johan 185 cm said on 25/Apr/19
I just watched The Princess Bride and he looks easily a foot taller than 5'11" listed Cary Elwes.

What also shocked me was the size of his head, i think that is a legit 11 inch head.

Closer to 12" if not slightly more.

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That was no analysis just a number I put out there as its over the normal. Yes I agree his head could be that long, its huge because of his condition.
Boss said on 2/May/19
Here Andre and Mauricio Tillet who's head was measured at around 12" compared to Andre. Andre's head was at least 1" longer.
Click Here
Boss said on 2/May/19
Here Andre and Hogan face to face. You can't get any better for a comparison than here. Hogan's head was 10.5" range which would put Andre's head at 13.05".
Click Here
Jesica said on 30/Apr/19
Johan 185 cm said on 25/Apr/19
I just watched The Princess Bride and he looks easily a foot taller than 5'11" listed Cary Elwes.

What also shocked me was the size of his head, i think that is a legit 11 inch head.

Closer to 12" if not slightly more.
cmillzz said on 30/Apr/19
peak was at least 6’11 imo.
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Apr/19
@Rawdshaq Here's Andre in the mid-'70s w/ 5'9" (billed 5'11") Verne Gagne:
Click Here The guy next to him was 6'5" Chris Taylor... seen here again along w/ Ken Patera... Click Here
Maurice "Mad Dog" Vachon (billed 5'7") and Gagne... Click Here
Now, Johan 185 cm said Andre must have had a head that was 11" long. I say that was too small. Even if his head was at least 12" long, does Andre look more than 6'11" in that pic w/ Gagne...? I don't think so.

Verne Gagne, Arnold Skaaland and Andre in big cowboy boots (1974)... Click Here

Again, Gagne and a young Andre... Click Here




Here's Gagne w/ around 6'7" Ernie Ladd... Click Here

Remember, this was Ladd next to max 6'2" George H.W. Bush... Click Here
Here's Ladd w/ 6'1.5" Vince McMahon (1976)... Click Here
Ladd w/ Ray Candy (billed 6'5") in 1978... Click Here




Andre looked max 6'10" to me, but maybe if he stood w/ perfect military posture he could have hit 6'11" when he was young and thin. As for before he died, I'm not really sure due to his poor posture. He could look as low as 6'9", but maybe he got down to 6'9.5".



@RP Definitely. Almost all old-school bodybuilding heights are inflated. Sadly, I don't think Everson was on his tippy toes.

This was Studd next to 5'11" peak-height George W. Bush Click Here

Studd and around 5'9" Ricky Steamboat... Click Here

Here's a recent pic of height-loss Steamboat and max 6'5" Gene Snitsky... Click Here

Steamboat and max 6'8' Big Cass (who I think is 6'7.5")... Click Here


Steamboat and Flair (2019)... Click Here , Click Here
Recent pic of Flair and 5'8" Ludacris... Click Here
rawdshaq said on 27/Apr/19
@Sotiris how tall do you think Andre was at peak and death?
RP said on 27/Apr/19
At Sotiris,
That’s Jeff Everson. He recently passed away. Back in the 80’s & 90’s all the bodybuilding magazines used to list him @ 6’0”...however, I actually met Jeff once at a fitness expo in Miami, FL in 1997...I was 21 years old going on 22. and I judged him @ only 5’11”... and I’m a pretty good judge of 5’11”. Since I’m also 5’11” barefoot, LOL! That being said, I sure hope he was on his tip toes in that pic with Big John Studd! Otherwise, Studd isn’t even 6’5” in that photo!!!
Texas Tom said on 26/Apr/19
In pictures with guys around 6-5, Andre can look way under 7 feet, probably under 6-10...I.E. Chuck Wepner, Don Leo Jonathan. Ironically, with even taller guys in the 6-8 or 6-9 range, like Ron Fuller and Elmer, he looks closer to around 6-11.
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Apr/19
@Annonymous Here's Big John Studd w/ 5'10" (billed 6'0") Chief Jay Strongbow... Click Here

6'5" (billed 6'6") Don Leo Jonathan and Strongbow (1974)... Click Here

Studd was max 6'5.5" afternoon height, not even 6'6", let alone 6'7". Pics next to 6'4.5" Bill Fralic and 6'6" Rick Barry proves this.





Here are some pics that have been already posted before, but I'll post them again for new ppl to this site:

Strongbow and Andre the Giant... Click Here , Click Here
Strongbow and 6'8" (billed 6'10") Uncle Elmer... Click Here

Elmer and Andre the Giant... Click Here

6'7.5" Giant Haystacks and Andre... Click Here

Don Leo Jonathan and Andre... Click Here , (1972) Click Here

Remember, this was Studd (no lifts) next to Cory Everson's 5'11" husband... Click Here

Studd and Andre on his tippy toes... Click Here






Note: I once thought this was Andre and Don Leo Jonathan Click Here , but it's really Michael Nador... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here
Johan 185 cm said on 25/Apr/19
I just watched The Princess Bride and he looks easily a foot taller than 5'11" listed Cary Elwes.

What also shocked me was the size of his head, i think that is a legit 11 inch head.

Click Here

Click Here

Click Here
Annonymous said on 22/Apr/19
If Studd wasn't 6'7" he was really close like 6 '6.75 evening. He was a next-level kind of big.
62B said on 16/Apr/19
Most everyone here knows how I ran into Andre and got knocked on my butt. You all know I estimate him at the time (1988) at 6'11" in the mid morning. Andre with his massive body and long spine realistically was one of those guys who lost an inch over the course of the day. So Gretz, I believe what you read that an employee figured Andre was 6'10 3/4" at WM3. Likely evening and in his wrestling boots from the sounds of it. Barefoot evening at WM3 he was probably 6'10"-6'10.5". I know his body was breaking down, but I still don't think he would have lost more than an inch peak by then. I think Andre was probably the full 7' peak, but in the morning, maybe even 7'.05". I think if we are going to go by late afternoon/early evening that I would be Okay with 6'11"/6'11.5" for his peak.
Erik C. said on 14/Apr/19
Sotiris

Full one in evening

Dude the door looks like a small toy to me!😂
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Erik C. said on 14/Apr/19
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@Sotiris

My coach measure me. With good posture in shoes i’m 7’2.
Erik C. said on 14/Apr/19
@Sotiris

Sorry it took so long. Sorry that you can’t see my legs I’ll fix that in some days. This is what i meant when i said i can lick my doors and shove my head on them. This is me barefoot afternoon with good posture after playing basketball (staying active, lol). Angles on point. Ill make sure i send you one of my full body.

This door is 6ft8.25. I tilted my head a lil to show you with good posture that it reaches my chin region. Ill send a normal pic soon. :)
Enjoy.
Halb said on 14/Apr/19
Difficult to judge with Studd, since he wore lifts. And he wasn't 6'7
Gretz said on 13/Apr/19
Also I read reports that Andre backstage at WW3 was 6'10.75,A guy that worked there said he would estimate Andre`s height when he went past a certain door.(and know I can`t prove it)and college students estimated him using pixels from a tv that Andre was 5 inches taller than Hogan at the time.It makes sense since in 1984 if Andre raises his huge head he is tall as Wilt,but in another pic when he is looking down he loses 2+ inches.
Gretz said on 13/Apr/19
Hey guys been gone but know im back,just recently watchad a match with andre and big John Studd from circa 1977.I have to say this confirms for me Andre was at some point 7'0".Studd may have been 6'7" at the time and Andre dwarfs him by 5.5 6 inches.I actually think he is close to 7'1" in this video,and Studd is not wide like he was taking growth hormone.its on you tube if you want to see it,and no matter his peak height he is one of the most massive humans that ever walked the earth.i think he was 7'0" till at least 1978 in the pic with Backlund with cinder blocks actually verifing his 7'0" stature.there are 5 or 6 pics with him standing very close to the blocks verifing it(although I know this is not totally accurate)it puts him in the that aria.Watch it and you will see how mobile he is he could probably still do a drop kick at this point but vince sr. told him not to he wanted him to act like an unmovable giant.
Johan 185 cm said on 9/Apr/19
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Johan 185 cm said on 9/Apr/19
You have to look at older pics from the 70's and 80's. He was eyelevel with door frames when younger if he wasn't 7'then he was barely off it. Towards the end of his life he has a hunch and couldn't even stand properly.
Kunoichi said on 30/Mar/19
As I have been wondering for many years, the masked wrestler in this video is Ron Reis but his height is said to be 210 cm. His height was 210cm tall even when he was studying abroad in Japan.


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Erik C. said on 29/Mar/19
Sotiris


Its all good, man.:) I will try to send a pic for evidence though. Like maybe in a week or so. I promise im not trolling.


As for Andre the Giant ill give him 6'11 1/2 peak 6'10 3/4 midday.
Ellis said on 29/Mar/19
@The Ben: That's really interesting, I wish I was alive to see Andre wrestle, not that I'm that into to it, but just the fact that Andre was such a huge sports icon.
@Dan Trojan: That's a good point
@Melvin Jones: I agree with that, they always seemed to be around the same height.
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Mar/19
@Erik C. That makes more sense, dude. My bad. I was just foolin', not trying to hurt your feelings or anything. You don't have to prove anything to anyone. That said, if you feel like it, you can also use imgur.com to upload pics here. A cardboard cutout of Andre would be cool, though. :)
Dan Trojan said on 28/Mar/19
If i were to say who i thought was taller between show and andre i'd say show he seemed to always have more height on hogan than andre did
MelvinJones said on 28/Mar/19
I think Andre and Big Show were about the same height. Andre had the bigger chest and hands and wrists. Big Show had bigger shoulders and arms. Both are real giants.
Erik C. said on 27/Mar/19
@sotiris

I'll have a pic in a little bit good sir.👍🏻👍🏻
Erik C. said on 27/Mar/19
Sotiris

If you show me how, I can send a picture of me next to a 6ft8 door.
Erik C. said on 27/Mar/19
Sotiris

Also, Sotiris, idk how to post pics of myself. Do you know how?
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Erik C. said on 27/Mar/19
Sotiris

No. Sotiris, it was a typo. I already tried to post that it was a typo. I meant to say 6 foot FIVE. But it said GIVE instead.
The Ben said on 27/Mar/19
@Ellis
Thats a good one, to me peak Big SHow in 95 looked taller than Andre but WCW did have lots of 5'10 guys at the time.
When you see mid 70's footage of Andre he looks 7ft. Peak height I expect them both to be touching 7ft.
My first WWF in tour in 91 I saw Andre, stooped over on crutches and he was nowhere near 7ft, he was still taller than legit 6'5+ Earthquake though.
I saw Big Show in 03 and he didnt look 7ft either though but both have such strange proportions its hard to tell.
Boss said on 27/Mar/19
Andre and Big Show. Big Show would have the footwear advantage here.

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Sotiris Gravas said on 27/Mar/19
@Erik C. Dude, the reason ppl doubt your height claim is b/c it keeps changing every time you post something, lol. You now say your 6-foot friends come up to your nose/eye level -- as opposed to your previous statement where you allege that you have a full head on 6'1" guys. My best advice, take a full-body pic where you're licking the top of one of your doors and post it here. Preferably while standing next to a life-size cardboard standup cutout of Andre the Giant. Granted, blowing up a photo to accommodate Andre's massive size will be somewhat costly, but it'll be well worth the effort. I trust you'll have this done by the end of the week -- I know you won't let me down. I'll be waiting. Otherwise, ppl will simply assume that for whatever reason, you're telling tall tales (pun intended). Here's a website that can do it for you... Click Here They use better quality foam board.

Don't let us down, bro. Here's a pic of me and two other ppl... Click Here I'm the one w/ the blue pants.
Ellis said on 26/Mar/19
@Boss: Thank you lol
Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Mar/19
@62B Wow, 7" is a lot. I would imagine 4" is closer to normal. When I was 14, my mom and brother went to Greece for a month and they were startled by how skinny I got over the summer, partly due to my growth spurt and going to the local swimming pool every day. The craziest growth spurt would have to be that of Dennis Rodman. Not sure if Rodman's tale is bona fide or perhaps exaggerated poetic license.
Erik C. said on 26/Mar/19
@Boss

Oh my God dude people make freaking mistakes. And also you said ppl this tall would measure themselves for sure. How in the world would you know? I'm ending this conversation in respects to Andre. Whatever if you guys don't believe me. I honestly don't give a crap.
Ellis said on 26/Mar/19
Who do you guys think would be taller, a prime Andre the Giant or a prime Big Show, at their peak heights.
Boss said on 26/Mar/19
Measure yourself with a measuring tape end of story. This site is about Andre's height so I see no reason to be arguing about how tall you are when you could very easily measure yourself and if you were as tall as you say then you would have already measured yourself for sure. Plus how could your 6'7 coach come to your eyes and now your all of a sudden 6'6 coach comes to your forehead.
Erik C. said on 26/Mar/19
6'5*

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cmillzz said on 26/Mar/19
I may have only seen one legit 7 footer in my life, Bill Cartwright. A legit 7’0 is like 1 in 4 million, so yeah, I’m going to be skeptical.
Erik C. said on 25/Mar/19
Ellis: Yeah I understand that it might seem strange. And I'm dead serious I have three 6 foot give friends who all come EXACTLY at my noseeye level. Depending on how compressed i am. And my 6'6" bball coach comes to my forehead or so.
62B said on 25/Mar/19
@Sotiris just wanted to comment on growth spurts a little. For me I was 5'3" at the end of my freshman year in high school. During the 3 month summer I grew to 5'10" by the beginning of the 10th grade. 7" in 3 months! The growth pains were horrible. People would comment that they thought they could actually see me growing. By the 11th grade I was 6'1"-6'2" and by my senior year I was 6'3". I didn't stop growing until 19 when in the Army at 6'3 1/4". Now at age 50, thanks to ankylosing spondylitis I have shrunk to 6'2 1/2".
Ellis said on 25/Mar/19
@Erik C.: You didn't cause a problem, I was just in disbelief of how tall you are, it just seems extremely rare to me and how you answer and respond makes me very skeptical if you are really that height. You do realize that you are inferring that you are a 7 footer which is crazy, and if it is true than that is amazing.
@Sotiris: I'm not just a normal someone, I literally almost a foot taller right now than I was when I turned 14, I had and am still on a massive growth spurt. I respect what you said I just didn't like how you engaged with me inferring you thought that I was trolling. Honestly, I don't care if people believe me or not because in the end I am 6'8, and that's that.
cmillzz said on 25/Mar/19
And lol @ 7 feet sounding “too good to be true”. I’d rather be 5’5 tbh.
cmillzz said on 25/Mar/19
Simple minded? It’s the internet, anyone can lie about anything. And on a height site especially, there’s probably a good chunk of posters on here who do lie about their height and troll.
cmillzz said on 25/Mar/19
@Ellis

you’re really not very bright and completely lack critical thinking skills if you think there’s even the slightest possibility that I’m Sotiris... LOL
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Mar/19
@Erik C. Dude, the fact that you're on this site and yet still haven't measured yourself as if tape measures don't exist comes across as very dubious. Think about it.
Erik C. said on 25/Mar/19
Lol guys I'm sorry if I caused a problem. 😂I really am being honest. I don't know how tall i am. All i know is i'm way up there and doors are too small for me. Seriously I'm not trying to troll. I can't change people's opinion's so it's completely fine if ppl don't believe me. If people on this site met me they would know. Lol.
Sotiris Gravas said on 24/Mar/19
@Ellis 1) I have a life and 2) the way you answered pretty much solidified what I think of your height. Whatever dude, I honestly couldn't care less.

P.S. Most of someone's growth spurt during puberty is done by age 16. Again, you said you were only 6'1" by age 15.




@cmillzz Maybe he's actually taller and pretending to be shorter...




@62B Most short ppl have no clue as to the height of tall ppl. They usually just ask how tall I am while giggling and don't take a stab at it. I hate entering and leaving a restaurant b/c ppl are seated and my height is accentuated. That's when ppl really gawk and that irks me somewhat. This one time, a lanky dude seated near me at a restaurant kept staring b/c I have a long torso and he was surprised that I was taller. At first I thought he was flirting or something, but he had his lady friend w/ him. Suffice it to say, we got up and left at around the same time and b/c of his long legs, we were pretty much the same height. What I really hate is when guys will actually get off the sidewalk and go on the street rather than walk by me, whereas women are super friendly and show no sign of being intimidated. That being said, at night, I will always cross the street rather than walk behind a woman who's by herself. That's when terror sets in and the cellphone gets whipped out, pretending to be on the phone w/ somebody, which is totally understandable. Sorry for rambling. Actually, one more thing... when I go speed-walking is the worst. That's when ppl look back in fear b/c they hear me coming, lol. I'm only 275 lbs now, but when I was 305 lbs, ppl were genuinely afraid, I kid you not. Having a beard makes it worse.
Ellis said on 24/Mar/19
@Cmillzz: It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if you are Sotiris, not saying that you are him but I mean come on man such a simple minded comment.
cmillzz said on 24/Mar/19
@Sotiris, wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if both were trolling.
cmillzz said on 23/Mar/19
I’m really struggling to see him at only 6’10” peak... Maybe near his death he was down to 6’10”, or possibly even a bit under.
Ellis said on 23/Mar/19
@Sotiris Gravas: Well it's quite simple actually, first off I had a massive growth spurt and I'm still growing bro, secondly when I say lip area I mean just under the nose. If you are looking for beef to satisfy your social needs this isn't the site for that, I just so happened to get caught up with a person who sounds 7 feet tall which sounds to good to be true, get a life.
62B said on 22/Mar/19
Sotiris, was wondering how often people guess you taller than you are, and by how much? Most people seem to guess me at 6'4" when my true barefoot afternoon/early evening height is now 6'2.5".
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Mar/19
@Ellis If I understand correctly, you've said that you're 6'8" in the morning. That would make your "real" height around 6'7.5" later in the day. How can a 6'1" person reach your lips? I wake up at 6'7.5" (sometimes 6'7.75"), and 5'11" reaches my lip area. Please explain. You said at 15 you were only 6'1", which I also find very odd. I was maybe 6'4.5" at 15. What you say doesn't add up, dude. Not sure if Erik C is trolling, but I'm left wondering if you are...
Halb said on 21/Mar/19
miko said on 18/Mar/19
If Andre ever saw 7'0 it was straight out of bed.

He looked 6'10/6'10.5 range in the 70/80's, could only look taller with cowboy boots or a box.

From around 1988/89 onwards when his health starting failing at times he could look under 6'10.
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I concur with that
Erik C. said on 21/Mar/19
@Ellis


Nah bro, im not trolling. Perhaps the adoms apple comparison was slightly exaggerated bc that's what it LOOKS like to me. It's more like i have a full head on a 6'1 guy and a 6'5 guy comes up to maybe my eyes. And ya dunk is easy.
Ellis said on 20/Mar/19
@Erik C: Lol you funny bro, a 6'1 guy comes up to your adams apple, last time I checked a 6'1 guy comes up to my lips. It's either you are a 7 footer or you are trolling. I can do two handed dunks on a 10 foot rim, can you do two handed dunks on an 11 foot rim, nice, want a medal?
Ellis said on 19/Mar/19
I truly believe that when he was younger and slender, mid 20s he saw 7 foot and yes closer to the morning but still he saw it if he ever checked, then after that he started gaining weight and the pressure on his spine gradually lessened his height. Yea guys he did see the 6'10 range but that was decades into grabbing people and picking them up 300 days a year, I think anyone would experience that much of a height loss if they were sporting 400 pounds of weight and constantly harming their spine. I let my case rest lol.
miko said on 18/Mar/19
If Andre ever saw 7'0 it was straight out of bed.

He looked 6'10/6'10.5 range in the 70/80's, could only look taller with cowboy boots or a box.

From around 1988/89 onwards when his health starting failing at times he could look under 6'10.
Tall In The Saddle said on 17/Mar/19
Agreed - never saw 7' let alone 7'4".

Height exaggeration is a professional obligation in wrestling. No harm no foul.

Was about 6'10" IMMHO but given acromegaly - even at that massive height - Andre still had the oversized hands, head etc. that would proportionally fit someone well in excess of 7 feet - so passing him off at 7'4" or more had some decent support - albeit illusory in respect of Andre's true height.
cmillzz said on 16/Mar/19
Peak height was pretty much 7’0. At worst maybe a fraction under.
Heisenberg89 said on 15/Mar/19
This guy never saw 7'.
Always been 6'10" range
Erik C. said on 15/Mar/19
@ Ellis

When ppl say, "wowww! you're so tall!". I just say. No i'm not, you're so short. Or when ppl ask me how tall I am, it annoys me so much I just reply, I don't talk about it. All i know im absolutely tower over my 6'1 sports coach. He doesn't even make it to my adoms apple. And i have a 6'5" coach who comes up to my mouth. My 6'7" former basketball coach comes up to my eyes. And i can literally lick my house doors if i wanted to caz they're so short. Which would make me over 6'8 i think bc i heard something about doorways only being 6'8". Also, perhaps i should go purchase a measuring tape bc i have what i would consider a "low" ceiling in my house and my head literally no joke is like a few inches away from the top. My dream is to keep growing and growing which hopefully i have loads of time since im 15 yro.
Erik C. said on 15/Mar/19
@Ellis

Yea, that's exactly what I do. Always make a serious face in public. It makes me extremely uncomfortable when ppl stare at me. I actually have never bothered to measure myself lol. All i know is i have to duck really far underneath doorframes and I've never met a single person in my lifetime that's taller than me since i was a kid (which i still am a kid lol). And to make me even more noticeable my legs make up like 95% of my body so i look freakish.
Ellis said on 15/Mar/19
@rawdshaq: I'm roughly 180 right now I think, I'm quite the slender fella at 6'8
rawdshaq said on 14/Mar/19
Just going to jump into this conversation but I was always a short fat kid growing up, I was about 5'4" I think at 15 and weighed around 210, and when I got out of high school I was 300 pounds and now I am gonna be 42 soon and I weigh 230 pounds and stand at around 5'9"
Ellis said on 13/Mar/19
@Erik C. How tall are you?, and you said you're fifteen, if so then that is really young, at 15 I was 6'1, I'm 18 and 6'8 now lol. But yeah, a tip is too always make a very serious face when walking and people will avoid you. Like I swear lol, just yesterday my friend and I were hanging out and he started talking to this girl next to us, and the first thing she did was walk up to me and said, "wow you are sooo tall" lol.
rawdshaq said on 11/Mar/19
Peak: 7'0 1/4"

1987: 6'10"

1993: 6'9"
Erik C. said on 9/Mar/19
@Ellis

Lmaoo that is so true that people only really ever ask if you make eye contact back at them. I thought i was the only person in this universe who understood that!😂😂😂

Tell me, does it annoy you when ppl ask caz i get asked 15 times a day at my gym when i duck through equipment, door frames, etc and it's annoying as hellllll to me. Especially when you're a 15 year old kid at that and you absolutely tower over grown men.
Azad said on 8/Mar/19
Wasn't he billed at 6ft 10 in the 1960s?
Ellis said on 7/Mar/19
This guy is a tough one, I'll give a shot though,
1970s: 7'0.25
1980s: 6'11
1990s: 6'10
Kinda like the Big Show and his height loss over the years.
@burnitdownhomies: I'm 6'8 in the morning, and I get asked a lot about my height the key is when you make eye contact then people ask you. Anyways, he was never 6'8 fully grown, he was mostly 6'10-6'11 range, at his peak when he was at his peak fame I would peg him at 6'10.5 which is quite a bit taller than I.
rawdshaq said on 2/Mar/19
Andre could have been 6'9 1/2" when he died.
oRiOn said on 27/Feb/19
burnitdownhomies said on 26/Feb/19
He was only 6'8. His billing at 7'4 is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes, his billing of 7'4 was ridiculous, but your claim that he was only 6'8 is even more ridiculous!!
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