How tall is Andre The Giant

Andre The Giant's Height

7ft 0 (213.4 cm)

Andre Rene Roussimoff was a French Wrestler and Actor from The Princess Bride. His official site gives him 7ft 4, also shows his 'measured' height from wrestlemania 3 (1987) as a whopping 7ft 5. He suffered from acromelagy and was supposedly 6ft 7 age 17. His spine took a lot of damage over his career. In 1971 Andre claimed to be "214cm" (Just over 7ft) at a weight of 171kg.

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Average Guess (520 Votes)
7ft 0.01in (213.4cm)
Oitheremate said on 20/Jan/20
Well this whole height thing about andre is starting to annoy me
To sum it all up

When he was 19 when he did his first interview as jean ferre where he even stated he was 6'11
So because he had gigantism his height wouldn't stop until age of 25

Now when he went to japan and canada andre was in fact measured twice and both estimates place andre at roughly 217 cm or 7'1
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The Saddest part about all of this is that andre didn't take really good care of himself
If andre wouldn't gain weight, Not Have a curved back, And probably treat acromegaly andre might've been at least 7'3

Because you can clearly see here
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That even after losing height andre biggest problem was his posture, he was always hunched over and even then he was nearly as tall as prime big show which wasn't hunched over and had a perfectly straight back unlike andre's

So andre at his peak was 7'1, later in life probably 6'10 or even 6'9 when he couldn't even walk
Big ed said on 18/Jan/20
Some billed heights are there actual heights some get added 1" others 4 or 5" im not sure what method they use when using billed heights warrior billed 6'2 typhoon sometimes 6'3 or 6'6 Mr perfect 6'1 Bret 6' Andre 7'4 so again there's nothing to say Jake Roberts wasn't a legit 6'5 I think he was definitely close to it he was rarely billed 6'6 aswell
Halb said on 17/Jan/20
Jake's billed height was 6'5.
Big ed said on 15/Jan/20
Well if we put Jake Roberts at 6'5 which everyone nearly agrees on some might say 6'4 then Hogan had to be around 6'5.5" or 6'6 which would make giant baba around 6'8 so Andre around 6'11 1989 he probably lost 1.5" the rest is just poor posture which made him appear far shorter sometimes he seemed 6'9 late in his career but id say slightly above 7ft at his tallest
Nippu said on 7/Jan/20
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I am Younger than him but started to do age 12 martial arts with him. Since that i make very good career. I was pretty close to top of the world. Marko was slim 140-150kg only pure mucle. Now he is doing ironman competitions and do a lot of long distace running etc. So if you are only mucle you can be slim 6`10. In youtube u can see videos about him. But i have friends even taller/bigger than him. Marko is probably strongest one still even he is i guess really slim 110-120kg.. Marko did stop strong man career because he did get too many back problems. Still he is super active around age 51 or so. Running also maratons etc. He was also really promosing in boxing. But he choose strongman career.
Roderick said on 6/Jan/20
@Nippu My closest friend is 6'10". He weighs around 285, yet looks skinny.
Nippu said on 5/Jan/20
I know personally plenty of 7 footers. 6`8 is not actually really tall for my standards. 6`10 and more start look tall to me. My tallest close friend is 212cm tall. And tallest ”friend” who i meet sometime but mostly because my job is legit 218cm tall. To me 6`10 and 350lbs is more impressive than 7`3 and 240lbs. I weight more than 240lbs so it is not only height what matters. Andre was his prime in 70`s and early 80`t. After that he was too big and too slow to even look good at the ring. He was way too massive to move around fast at that stage. If u ask person who is 6`9 does 6`11 look tall for u answer is no.
Nippu said on 5/Jan/20
I know personally plenty of 7 footers. 6`8 is not actually really tall for my standards. 6`10 and more start look tall to me. My tallest close friend is 212cm tall. And tallest ”friend” who i meet sometime but mostly because my job is legit 218cm tall. To me 6`10 and 350lbs is more impressive than 7`3 and 240lbs. I weight more than 240lbs so it is not only height what matters. Andre was his prime in 70`s and early 80`t. After that he was too big and too slow to even look good at the ring. He was way too massive to move around fast at that stage. If u ask person who is 6`9 does 6`11 look tall for u answer is no.
cmillz said on 3/Jan/20
Still don’t rule out 6’11 range peak, but probably safe to say he was never the full 7’0.
J. B said on 2/Jan/20
Between 6'11 and 7'1 is not super tall? Lol. Let's just look at 6'11 super tall? I mean a very tall man I say is a good 6'4 - 6'5 - super tall has to be 6'8 and above??
Nippu said on 1/Jan/20
Who cares was Andre 6`11 or 7`1. His size was not his height. He was BIG not actually super tall.
UndertakerFrank said on 31/Dec/19
RP You are correct he did not have the Surgery that could have prolonged his life and i dont believe Andre was ever 7ft Barefoot!! When he was young & thin he was being billed @ 6ft 10 and i do believe that was probably his tallest Barefoot Maybe 6ft 11 but im being alittle generous here
Roderick said on 30/Dec/19
He wasn't over 7', lol. Max 6'10.5"
RP said on 30/Dec/19
@ guy who is really worried about his height.
1) Andre “declined” to have the pituitary gland surgery.
2) having the surgery does not make you lose size! It only makes you finally stop growing.
3) Andre lost height from being 450-530 lbs for the better part of 10-12 years & having a failing back & joints that were filled with fluid & inflammation from his disease and excessive consumption of alcohol. Andre was indeed right at 7’0” at his peak...Somewhere between 6’11.5” to 7’0.25”..IMO. And he did indeed lose height down to approximately 6’10.5” to 6’10” by 1988’ish. But, not for the reasons you are giving. Andre IMO bottomed out @ 6’9.75” by 1992’ish.
Guy who is really worried about his heig said on 27/Dec/19
He was 7 above in his youth, he was slim and muscular then, but when he went to wrestling he had been through his surgery. Pituitary surgery decreases height significantly. I had a friend who was 7 feet 2 and after surgery he was 6 foot 8. Andre was about 6 feet 10 but wwf still kept his original height . He being 6 foot 10 becomes apparent when you look at him in various talk shows .
62B said on 27/Dec/19
I should have put in parentheses that i think Andre wasn't quite a half head shorter than Smits, but close.
Kyle J said on 26/Dec/19
Don Lane looked to have 1.5"-2" heeled boots on, you can see them better when Andre lifts him up, so he could be 6'5.5" and Andre with boots off, would have to be at least 6'10.5-11" if we assume that guys like Hogan or Wepner were a full 6'5" as Andre seemed to have 5-6" or half a head above them in certain photos.
Kyle J said on 25/Dec/19
In the end, it's mostly speculation on my part, I can try to round up numbers, but it's very likely Andre may have been a sub 7ft, but he was still very close to that mark in his youth, and he was an undeniably broad and powerfully built man.
62B said on 25/Dec/19
Rik Smits was listed as 7'4" by the NBA. He had what looked like an very average size head on a very tall body. One can play with factions to get a desired result. But if Smits had a 9" long head and Andre came up to his eyes, which is where I believe he would have. Then Smits was about 4.5" taller using the eyes as the middle of Smits head. If Smits was really 7'4" then Andre was about 6'11.5" when I saw him. With the NBA though its quite possible that Smits was 7'3" making Andre about 6'10.5" when I saw him. Of course a person can try to guess footwear, exact fractions, and question my estimates to come up with their own desired results. But realistically Andre in 1988 mid morning was around 6'11". He was probably closer to 6'10" by evening. I don't think its likely that Andre had lost more than an inch of true height by that time, if even that much. My guess is a Peak Andre would have been right around 7' in the morning and probably dropped to around 6'11" evening.
UndertakerFrank said on 24/Dec/19
Kyle J How can you make that assumption he was wearing lifts ??? Lane was a tall man and no need for lifts ??? Andre had the footwear Advantage Besides Look how Andre appeared next to 6ft 5 guys like Don Leo Jonathan Chuck Wepner Hulk Hogan back in the day all about the same Height Difference I do believe Andre was taller than 6ft 9 !!
Kyle J said on 24/Dec/19
In the aforementioned Don Lane interview, when watching the whole thing, I think Lane was wearing boots with 2" lifts, putting him around 6'6" or so, and he comes up to Andre's nose, if Andre stood fully straight, even with the odd camera angles, I'd guess 7' maybe a bit more but he is wearing cowboy boots, putting him in 6'10.5"-11" range barefoot. He may have been a bit taller in the early 70's but he was starting to put on more weight, which affected his posture.
treefroggy said on 19/Dec/19
Frank, you do notice that Don Lane is also wearing boots right? Andre may still have a bigger heel.The way your comment reads though may be misleading to those that are not aware of the actual video and circumstances.
62B said on 19/Dec/19
@ UndertakerFrank, I also know that when Andre stood tall I was looking at his upper chest. It felt like he was a head taller, but in reality the top of my head was probably at his bottom lip, maybe middle of his mouth. I was 6'3 1/4" at the time. No he wasn't wearing cowboy boots.
62B said on 19/Dec/19
UndertakerFrank said on 18/Dec/19
62B Does Andre look 7 inches taller than Don Lane ?? Even with Footwear Advantage
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I think people have a habit of seeing what they want to see in video and pictures. I can tell you that Andre was taller than a 6'9" guy that was in the same motor pool as me, and that Andre was noticeably shorter than Rick Smits. Maybe 4" shorter than Smits, but certainly not 6".
UndertakerFrank said on 18/Dec/19
62B Does Andre look 7 inches taller than Don Lane ?? Even with Footwear Advantage
62B said on 18/Dec/19
Undertaker Frank said on 16/Dec/19
Don Lane was 6ft 4 Andre with Cowboy Boots looks 5 inches taller def not near 7ft
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He was more 6'11" than 6'10" when I saw him. Although I believe in the evening its possible he may have been closer to 6'10". I just didn't see him in the evening to know this for sure.
Undertaker Frank said on 16/Dec/19
Don Lane was 6ft 4 Andre with Cowboy Boots looks 5 inches taller def not near 7ft
Halb said on 16/Dec/19
Meltzer doesn't contradict himself. THe 6'¾" is from a French athletic board he dug up. The 6'11½" is Meltzer's own estimation from pics.
Kunoichi said on 16/Dec/19
Alex Katch

I will study a lot. Thank you.
But,I think that Shohei Baba was at least 200cm.
NCL said on 15/Dec/19
This may have been posted here but just in case, a great video if you're an Andre fan: Click Here
Edward Saulin said on 15/Dec/19
One more thing I have seen interviews with Big John Studd and Ernie Ladd. In one interview wag looks a good 2 inches plus poor than Big John Studd. And the other interview I seen stud looks a little taller than lad, does anybody think. Possibly stud would have been wearing something in his boots to boost his height a little bit?
Edward Saulin said on 15/Dec/19
Also gravis posted a picture up Gorilla Monsoon and Ernie Ladd. Monsoon had his head down but you can tell lad has him by at least 5 in or so. I think lad was legit six nine maybe six and nine and a half whatever NFL team measured him I think he was at 6 9.5 and he sure looks it. Now I've seen matches with Andre where he looks about three inches taller than lad which would give him the 7-foot mark. In regards to Gorilla Monsoon I met him when I was 12 years old on the Wildwood Boardwalk he was selling tickets but he was sitting down older later on in the night I seen him standing and his feet were at least size 16 I remember he had leather Adidas on. He was so big that I was afraid to ask him for his autograph. I really think he was closer to 6 5 than 6 4. I think it would be cool if you put Gorilla Monsoon on his own page Rob.
Edward Saulin said on 15/Dec/19
Rob I would post this on the Richard kill site but hardly anybody reads it, he claims a height of 7 ft 1.5 but usually rounds it up to seven foot two. Absolutely someone posted a pic of Andre and Richard kill both appearing on the David Letterman show and they caught them at the doorway before they were coming in and they pretty much look the same height. When Keel appeared in the golf movie with Adam Sandler he was on crutches and didn't look any taller than 611 Maybe how much do these guys lose these Giants in height when they get older.
Editor Rob
I still feel Andre was shorter than Richard at his peak
Edward Saulin said on 15/Dec/19
Also besides the Abdullah the Butcher match, he also looks very tall besides Gorilla Monsoon in an unlikely boxing match in fact I don't know if it's the camera but he looks oh my God almost 8 in tall or 9 inch taller than him although it's the camera angles he has to be around seven foot there at least
Edward Saulin said on 15/Dec/19
I'm sorry for all the typing errors I have a central Tremors which means I use the speaker all the time. I've heard a thousand times about this Meltzer thing where Andre was supposedly measured in Japan at six nine and three quarters. How could he have access to a person's private medical records also he contradicts himself in the wilt photo he has to make them at 6:11 and 1/2 in 1984. He was 13 at the time he got measured there are a lot of photographs out there as I pointed out where he was measures 7 ft or a little more. where he ckearly lost some height.
iconjj said on 15/Dec/19
Alex Katch said on 7/Dec/19
Dave Meltzer says 6'9 3/4 in his book Tributes II when André was 24 and I think it's highly unlikely that he would have grown another almost four inches after that.
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Yeah Dave and I had this debate on Twitter yesterday. I called him out to provide proof. I'm sorry just because its Dave saying it does not make it fact. My take on Dave is that he is an arrogant know it all who believes his own press clippings. He assumes that if he says it, then it is fact. He's intelligent yes, informed very, but now thinks he is above longtime wrestling fans, and I'm not buying into his bs. When he can provide documented proof, we can let it go. Until then all he has is hearsay, just like the rest of us
RP said on 13/Dec/19
The Abdullah The Butcher match is the most massive & tallest I’ve ever seen André look on film! Abdullah was a legit 350-400 lbs depending on time of year, LOL! The question is?...was his true barefoot height truly 5’10” ?? I’ve also heard 5’9” & 5’8” for him before? The heels on his wrestling boots were huge! He was billed @ 6’0” ...which is total bunk! Like I said, I’ve heard his real barefoot height was anywhere from 5’10” to 5’8” ??? Anyone have any better knowledge of this for input? If he was 5’10”? Then Andre was without a doubt 7’0” to 7’0.5” there! Also, keep in mind! Abdullah has a massive footwear advantage over Andre in that match!
Alex Katch said on 13/Dec/19
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Brian Norton (6' 10" - 208,3cm)
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Kevin Nash (6' 9½" - 207cm)
Robert Leo (6' 9" - 205,7cm)
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Giant Darko (6' 9" - 205,7cm)
Jeff Bearden (6' 9" - 205,7cm)
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Matt Sforcina (6' 8" - 203,2cm)
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Mark Calaway (6' 7½" - 201,9cm)
Martin Ruane (6' 7½" - 201,9cm)
Joseph Rudd (6' 7¼" - 201,3cm)
Manny Yarbrough (6' 7" - 200,6cm)
Sid Eudy (6' 6¾" - 200cm)
John Minton (6' 6½" - 199,4cm)
Nelson Frazier Jr. (6' 6½" - 199,4cm)
George Gray (6' 6½" - 199,4cm)
Adam Scherr (6' 6½" - 199,4cm)
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Edward Spulnik (6' 6" - 198,1cm)
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Matt Bloom (6' 6" - 198,1cm)
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Andrew Hankinson (6' 5" - 195,6cm)
Michael Hettinga (6' 5" - 195,6cm)
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Pdoggy said on 12/Dec/19
@Roderick
There have been others and probably still are, but peak height Andre was a little taller. As far as the butcher match Andre looks just massive in height and sheer mass.
Roderick said on 11/Dec/19
Am I the only person who thinks Big Show was taller than Andre?
Dustin Mark Williams said on 10/Dec/19
Meltzer is notoriously full of you know what as well. Meltzer also pegs him at 6'11.5" 450 lbs in the Wilt photo.
Andretg said on 10/Dec/19
If you watch this match Click Here
Andre vs Abdullah the butcher, and pause at the 12 second mark, it shows Andre looking taller and straighter than anything else I have seen. He looks absolutely enormous in this match, especially considering the size of his opponent.
Alex Katch said on 7/Dec/19
Dave Meltzer says 6'9 3/4 in his book Tributes II when André was 24 and I think it's highly unlikely that he would have grown another almost four inches after that.
Edward Saulin said on 7/Dec/19
I'm sorry I forgot to say that Andre was standing next to the cinder block wall with Bob Backlund who is usually listed at 61 but was probably 6 foot. After that I believe he slowly started losing height until that bam bam picture in 1991 where he looks about six nine and a half.
Edward Saulin said on 7/Dec/19
Hey guys I have been posting here since 2006. I have seen Andre lives and been within 10 feet of him, and I have over 300 videos of him some closer to his prime( by the way I post as gretz) I believe the best evidence for Andre being 7 foot plus is in the cake picks From I think 1972 just searched for them you will find them I posted them before. I believe his top height could have reach 7 ft .75 inches. Search for the Bobby hull photo he was measured by scientist at 5 foot 10 so that's a definitive height and Hull is on higher ground. Andre appears to be at least 15 inch taller than him.Also in a pick with Wahoo mcdaniel( who is listed at 6 foot one by the Denver Broncos I believe appears definitely be about 5-10 Andre appears to look at least 7 foot in this picture and they both have cowboy boots on I believe. Also I believe the last time Andre was around seven foot was in I think 1979 in the background pic when they are near a cinder block wall other that's hardly accurate measurement to go by. I was measuring cinder block walls in a fire tower where I used to work and I always came up with a different measurement so you can't really use it. But I think I his Peak Andre was between 7 ft and 7 ft .75, even in the world pick in 1984 Andre seems to still be around six foot 11.5. Popeye WrestleMania 3 he seems to be about 6:10 and 3/4 and even a backstage hand try to confirm that by measuring a door that he always walk through. But I will say by 1991 when he was wrestling Bam Bam I don't even know if he's six nine and a half he lost quite a bit of height
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Dec/19
@Cedric
I don't think that a peak Big Show was ever taller than a peak Andre.
Undertaker Frank said on 4/Dec/19
Trust me guys Wilt was the Taller Man !!! atleast by 2 inches
Roderick said on 4/Dec/19
How strong do you guys think Andre was? Would you guys say if he had some powerlifting training, he could have potentially squatted 1000lb+?
ken6-3 said on 3/Dec/19
To me that pic confirms that Wilt was taller. Andre had the footwear advantage
If Andre was not 7' peak he was damn close.
And if Tyler Mayne was a legit 6'8" back then, broke down andre still had him by an inch or 2

"Oitheremate said on 26/Nov/19
I legitimately believe that andre was around 7'2 or even 7'3 by looking at this image Click Here"
ken6-3 said on 3/Dec/19
To me that pic confirms that Wilt was taller. Andre had the footwear advantage
If Andre was not 7' peak he was damn close.

"Oitheremate said on 26/Nov/19
I legitimately believe that andre was around 7'2 or even 7'3 by looking at this image Click Here"
184guy2 said on 29/Nov/19
Here Andre looks an easy 7+ inches on 6'3.5 Jesse Ventura ( 1986 )
Also Jesse by that time used a lot of cowboy boots and Andre stopped using them by early 1980's
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Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 29/Nov/19
@Oitheremate said on 26/Nov/19

Wilt is standing behind. If Wilt is about 7'0 3/4 a low then i guess 7'0 is a low for Andre. 7'2-7'3 can only be some thicker cuban boots height.
Njp said on 28/Nov/19
Maybe he did push 7 feet. We’ll never know but around WM3 he was definitely hovering around the 6’10” mark vs Hogan at 6’5”
Johnny John said on 27/Nov/19
Andre was being billed at 6'9 0r 6'10 in France in the mid 1960's, but he was still in his late teen years or early 20's at the time, he could've grew a few inches after that. But by the early 1970's he was being billed at 7'4. The Pic with 7'1 Wilt Chamberlain shows he was at best 6'11, with the cowboy boots on 7'1 or so. Wilt with his boots & big wig would've been 7'3 or 7'4. The Match with 6'8 Tyler Mane in 1990 shows at broken down Andre only a few inches taller, & Mane would've been 6'9 in his wrestling boots. So 6'11 bare feet peak height 7'1 in his cowboy boots.
ASC said on 27/Nov/19
I watched a few early matches of André as Geant Ferre. Here are some announced heights:
(Rounding to the nearest quarter inch)
Feb. 1966 - 2.15 m (7’0 1/2”) - 19 yo
Jan. 1968 - 2.11 m (6’11”) - 21 yo
Dec. 1968 - 2.12 m (6’11 1/2”) - 22 yo
Oct. 1970 - 2.14 m (7’0 1/4”) - 24 yo

In a 1972 magazine, as Monster Rousimoff: 2.18 m (almost 7’4”).

He looked long-necked with a straight posture. Maybe his fitness and his growth condition could have gotten him to stand at nearly 7’0” in his early 20s.
Oitheremate said on 26/Nov/19
I legitimately believe that andre was around 7'2 or even 7'3 by looking at this image Click Here
Texas Tom said on 22/Nov/19
@DMWDRUMZ Agreed, I don't think the scale works. No way Kiel's head and hands would look that big next to Andre's. Actually that seems to be the case with a lot of the composites people put together.
DMWDRUMZ said on 19/Nov/19
Everyone can google the image Josey is talking about. At first glance, it is hard to take that picture as an indicator of reality. To me it looks like it is not to scale. I do think Kiel was the taller man, but why would one what to use a picture of of two separate images combined, and possible not to scale, when the Andre Wilt pictures exist, and they were taken when the two men were ACTUALLY side by side. Just food for thought.
Halb said on 18/Nov/19
THe ceiling lines in the Wilt/André favour Wilt, that can be clearly seen, and even without taking that and André's huge heels into consideration, Wilt edges out André.
GST said on 18/Nov/19
@Josey Wales: Take a picture of the picture with your phone and email it or text it. I’m sure someone will give you a phone # / email address.
Josey Wales said on 16/Nov/19
Saw a Pic of the late Richard Kiel who claimed 7'2' for himself along brece shedley, Jim breaks and a young Andre the giant in wrestling gear. Andre looks atleast 3 inches shorter if not more. Unfortunately I don't know how to post it here..
Roderick said on 16/Nov/19
@Texas Tom

Dude, well said. Andre was 6'10.5" peak IMO, I'm not even sure he ever hit a full 6'11".
Big ed said on 16/Nov/19
Ye I believe he was around 6'11" at wm3 but that certainly wasn't his peak. I'd estimate close to 7'1 mid 70s. worst posture of any professional wrestler in history
Pdoggy said on 14/Nov/19
Shadows and lines don't lie. They do not have an agenda. The Andre Wilt pics with Arnold have been tilted in both directions you can see the difference when one person is taller than the other and how the lines are skewed and the shadows are skewed.The original pic is out there and shows Andre looks slightly taller because of his footwear advantage. Then because of that we have people trying to correct the photo by tilting it to suit their argument. Pics can be very deceptive.
viper said on 13/Nov/19
As a little kid I remember him being billed at 7-4 but not 7-5
Texas Tom said on 13/Nov/19
There is little if any proof that Andre ever reached the full seven feet. Shots with people of considerable height put him close, but not quite there, 6-11ish give or take a half inch. Standing next to Studd, Fuller, Frazier, Ladd and Wilt, he looks close, but not quite there.
Njp said on 11/Nov/19
That famous picture of him and Wilt Chamberlain holding up Arnold, the size of the heels Andre was wearing. Then when you consider the difference in height between him and Hogan in the ring. I’d say peak was 7’, by WM3 he was 6’10”
ken6-3 said on 8/Nov/19
All i know is Sotiris Gravas has a ADS, Andre derangement syndrome

Face it. Andre was 7' tall at one point and of course he lost height in his older years

I see you on here crying about kane, show and everyone.... You are 6'5". big deal
ReturnofG said on 6/Nov/19
Peak 7'1.5
WM3 6'11
ASC said on 2/Nov/19
@ Nik Ashton: With 495 votes, I wonder:
1. Is 7’0” accurate thanks to the “wisdom of the crowd” theory, or
2. Is it skewed just a little because of the romantic notion of Andre’s height?

I can see either possibility.
Roderick said on 1/Nov/19
@Pdoggy I think the quote was, "Andre was big. I believe he was over 7ft, was it 4 inches? Not too sure."

Seriously though its so easy to mistake a 6'10" guy for 7'0". Happens to my 6'10" friend all the time
Pdoggy said on 31/Oct/19
Question:
Why would Vince McMahon in the Andre bio say he was over 7 ft but not Kayfabe 7'4"??

Vince was the king of Kayfabe. Having him stand on a box etc.
Undertaker Frank said on 30/Oct/19
Tyler Mane to me looked to me about 6ft 7 with Ali Baba Andre looked close to 2 inches one Mane
ETLS said on 28/Oct/19
In my opinion, definately looks legit near 6'11-7 ft in the 70s. With peak 6'5 hogan in 1980s he looks 6'10 range. His last days are around 6'9 as seen with 6'8 Tyler Mane during his match in Japan.
JT said on 27/Oct/19
Halb said on 25/Oct/19
André was maybe 2 inches shorter there. He has bigger heels, the picture is angled (look at the floor ceiling) and Wilt was measured at both 7'1 and 7'½.

This is with the photo straightened Click Here and where the top of Wilt's head is under the wig Click Here
Halb said on 25/Oct/19
André was maybe 2 inches shorter there. He has bigger heels, the picture is angled (look at the floor ceiling) and Wilt was measured at both 7'1 and 7'½.
Undertaker Frank said on 24/Oct/19
I had seen a picture many years ago of Andre & Wilt in street clothes in a Magazine
Wilt had Andre by atleast 2 inches A guy i knew showed me the picture and i was shocked because @ that time i believed Andre was 7ft 4 I wish i could contact this guy and ask him what Magazine that was in!!
I dont blame anyone who dont believe me but its 100% true
aaronius said on 23/Oct/19
Forgotmyname,

andre wasnt 2 inches horter than Wilt, yoru estimates are way off, when they are equidistant from the camera, they very nearly the same height, and Wilt is verified legit 7'1". Wilt may have a height advantage of half an inch,

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aaronius said on 23/Oct/19
ASC , Andre's billing were all over the place in Europe, ranging from 210cm to 218cm. he was already much bigger than any other wrestlers at the time, and measurements in meters meant very little to the American market, so there was no need to re-measure him at each promotion/event. Andre continued to grow well into his Mid to late 20's though, and Rob's number is pretty close to the money. I've argued that he was likely closer to 214 cm at his peak in the late 70's, but alas, we may never know. Japanese medical exams have him at 214cm, and that is why i use that figure, but alas, the family of Andre wont release his medical records to confirm.
jron said on 23/Oct/19
i'd say between 7'1-6'10 he was that tall. would you agree rob?
ASC said on 19/Oct/19
1968 match: Click Here

Sounds like the French broadcaster calls André 2.11 meters (a good 6’11”). If I’m translating the weight right, 144 kg (317). André would be 21 or 22 at the time.
Roderick said on 19/Oct/19
@Andre LOL yeah, it seems that way on every page. But sometimes certain people don't have a page on CH, so we just talk about them on normal pages. Sometimes talking about one person's height can help us learn about anothers.

But I'm not sure how Lebron James can help with Andre.

Something like talking about Kane's height on Takers page can help though.
Andretg said on 16/Oct/19
I believe this is Andre the giant's page. We are roaming far into the weeds with basketball players heights.
Just my opinion
Canson said on 15/Oct/19
@Viper: that one is all over the place. 6’8, 6’7 the same year then 6’8.25. I agree he isn’t 6’8” more than likely sans a morning measurement. Maybe more Lebron’s height if he is 6’7.5” early morning but to tel you the truth it wouldn’t surprise me if Lebron edged him slightly. I don’t buy over 6’7” either for taytum and I’m wondering now is the upper 6’6 range weak 6’7” range possible? Jaylen brown is around 6’5” if I had to guess afternoon height. Wouldn’t surprise me if he fell slightly under that mark if he was only 6’5.25 at the combine. Very possible his 6’5.5 was rounded up this year. But I think 6’5” is where he would be tops
viper said on 14/Oct/19
All of Tatum's measurements.

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Mikey97 said on 14/Oct/19
@Riccardo 5'7"

Andre said he was 6'10" and 309 pounds in that second clip I think, there was a translation on the HBO documentary for that clip.

He might have grown to 6'11" at his tallest
Canson said on 14/Oct/19
@JT: the other variable in addition to validity is time of day. I guess one can consider a morning measurement a valid measurement but site standards are afternoon. For me Personally I go with afternoon as well. Rob starts it at 5 hours out of bed which is 1/8” above afternoon for most. So I wake to 6’5” more precisely 195.7cm and measure 6’4.25 or a hair over 193.6 to 193.8cm depending on the day. I never claim 6’5” i round down to 6’4”.
Canson said on 14/Oct/19
@Manson: if I had to bet

6’8.75 Simmons
6’11.25 Embiid maybe even 6’11

@Viper: when did Tatum get measured? I don’t remember him attending the combine
viper said on 13/Oct/19
Tatum is 6-7, not 6-8.

He didn't grow
JT said on 12/Oct/19
manson said on 11/Oct/19
Jt embiid afro is misleading Click Here
....

Embiid would still be significantly taller w/o the afro Click Here

Back to Andre as this is his page Click Here Jason Tatum just measured 6’8” w/o shoes, although I don’t know how much faith we can put in some of these new NBA measurements
Canson said on 11/Oct/19
@Sotiris: I have Commish Silver at 190cm and Simmons at 204-206. 6’8.75-6’9” if he really measured that. 6’9.5 sounds fishy like they wanted to keep him 6’10”. He really looks a weak 6’9” to me. He’s nowhere near Embiid.
manson said on 11/Oct/19
Jt embiid afro is misleading Click Here
i think emmbiid is max 3 inches taller than simmosn.
Ben simmons 6.9 at low
Embiid 6.11 3/4
Canson said on 11/Oct/19
@JT: I didn’t see it mentioning that they were “measured” then. If you can find it please let me know. It just said that the combine events began then that day. But it didn’t explicitly mention the measurements. That’s when it opened to the public. The measurements aren’t open to the public necessarily. I understand what you’re saying but if you’re gonna tell me that then we also can’t assume that they are lows being it’s said before in an article that they do that early morning. And to add, players know that laying down makes them taller as Christian and I both said on Big shows page. That’s what Green likely did here (see the bench and iPod on the bench next to him). Rob seems to understand he did too which is why he only gave him 6’5.25”

As for Embiid and Simmons, I could surely agree with you on that but may be the angle. I’ve seen some pics where they look much closer. They could look less than 3 in one at least. But I would’ve actually thought 3-3.5 before I saw this.

As for Obama, he looks like he’s lost height today. Most here agree. Probably not much though. Just a weak 6’1”. Looking at Draymond with Kobe, they are extremely close in height. Green wouldn’t be 6’5 3/4 with him. Maybe what Rob lists him that’s it.

As for Kerr he is exaggerating both. He’s not 6’2.5 and he’s not 2” shorter. And Curry is that in shoes not barefoot. He’s not as tall as Westbrook. Alvin Gentry also said Green is closer to 6’5” than 6’6”

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Canson said on 11/Oct/19
@JT: I didn’t see it mentioning that they were “measured” then. If you can find it please let me know. It just said that the combine events began then that day. But it didn’t explicitly mention the measurements. That’s when it opened to the public. The measurements aren’t open to the public necessarily. I understand what you’re saying but if you’re gonna tell me that then we also can’t assume that they are lows being it’s said before in an article that they do that early morning. And to add, players know that laying down makes them taller as Christian and I both said on Big shows page. That’s what Green likely did here (see the bench and iPod on the bench next to him). Rob seems to understand he did too which is why he only gave him 6’5.25”

As for Obama, he looks like he’s lost height today. Most here agree. Probably not much though. Just a weak 6’1”. Looking at Draymond with Kobe, they are extremely close in height. Green wouldn’t be 6’5 3/4 with him. Maybe what Rob lists him that’s it.

As for Kerr he is exaggerating both. He’s not 6’2.5 and he’s not 2” shorter. And Curry is that in shoes not barefoot. He’s not as tall as Westbrook. Alvin Gentry also said Green is closer to 6’5” than 6’6”

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Canson said on 11/Oct/19
@JT: I didn’t see it mentioning that they were “measured” then. If you can find it please let me know. It just said that the combine events began then that day. But it didn’t explicitly mention the measurements. That’s when it opened to the public. The measurements aren’t open to the public necessarily. I understand what you’re saying but if you’re gonna tell me that then we also can’t assume that they are lows being it’s said before in an article that they do that early morning. And to add, players know that laying down makes them taller as Christian and I both said on Big shows page. That’s what Green likely did here (see the bench and iPod on the bench next to him). Rob seems to understand he did which is why he only gave him 6’5.25”

As for Obama, he looks like he’s lost height today. Most here agree. Probably not much though. Just a weak 6’1”. Looking at Draymond with Kobe, they are extremely close in height. Green wouldn’t be 6’5 3/4 with him. Maybe what Rob lists him that’s it.

As for Kerr he is exaggerating both. He’s not 6’2.5 and he’s not 2” shorter. And Curry is that in shoes not barefoot. He’s not as tall as Westbrook. Alvin Gentry also said Green is closer to 6’5” than 6’6”

Click Here
Canson said on 11/Oct/19
@JT: I didn’t see it mentioning that they were measured then. It just said that the combine events began then. But it didn’t explicitly mention the measurements. The measurements aren’t open to the public necessarily
JT said on 11/Oct/19
Canson, Embiid has the Andre afro effect going on but unless his head stops at his hairline a la Herman Munster, the height difference over Simmons is at least 3 inches and probably more. Click Here Simmons is a little closer to the camera too.

I haven’t seen any official listing of Draymond Green at 6’5” flat. Based on this Click Here he’s about the same height he measured at in the 2012 combine (6’5 ¾”) Steph Curry just claimed he measured 6’2 ¾” if we are going to rely on the “official” listings. Steve Kerr claims he (Kerr) is currently 6’2 ½ and Green is around 2 inches taller so Kerr is obviously wrong on Green’s height and probably his own Click Here

Obama’s height (6’1”) is one that basically everyone agrees on and what’s curious is why just about every NBA player who has a combine height never looks shorter than that combine height when standing next to him. I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head who did.

Re: Tacko Fall, an article about his combine measurement mentioned other players entering the draft being measured “earlier in the day”, which logically implies Fall was measured later in the day.
Canson said on 10/Oct/19
@JT: I actually agree with most of your post below tho. The NBA forced them into this so it’s likely the teams may not cooperate out of spite. Lonzo was only 6’4”? Interesting because that’s still how he looks with Magic. And see what I wrote about Liangelo on his page. The one reporter said they were the same height at 6’2”. That’s how they look next to each other lol. LaMelo if anything is 6’4 or 6’5”. He’s taller than Gelo today. Max 6’5” not more but possibly 6’4.5”. Maybe both he and Lonzo measure around 6’5 out of bed today
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Oct/19
Measured 6'9.5" w/o shoes morning Ben Simmons w/ maybe 6'1" Jay-Z (2016)... Click Here

6'9.5" Kevin Durant w/ Jay-Z (2013)... Click Here

Simmons/ Embiid... Click Here , (Embiid in flip-flops) Click Here

Simmons in socks w/ Shaq (2015)... Click Here , (2018) Click Here

W/ Dirk (2018)... Click Here

W/ 6'3" Adam Silver (2016)... Click Here
W/ Dwyane Wade height comparison... Click Here

Interesting pic w/ Barkley... Click Here
viper said on 10/Oct/19
Reddick was measured 6-4, supposedly
JT said on 10/Oct/19
Click Here Probably before 1975 or 1976 as Andre's not in cowboy boots.

Canson, we can’t assume any measurement time unless it’s documented. Regardless, you have to question how serious some of these measurements really are and if the teams and/or some players are doing something fishy in response to this NBA mandate. I haven't seen anywhere that Harrison Barnes is now officially listed as 6'6" but he's clearly taller than the official listing of 6'6.75" for Doncic Click Here The few Maverick listings that I have seen do seem legit. I'm not surprised Deandre Jordan has an official 6'11" listing with the Nets as he always looked taller than what he measured coming out of college (IIRC 6'9.75").

There’s no way Embiid is only 2 ¼ inches (or only even 3 inches) taller than Simmons. Celtics officially list Gordon Hayward at 6’8” and he's not that tall. Click Here Celtics officially list Tacko Fall at 7’5” (shorter than his afternoon measurement a few months ago) and he said his official listing is wrong and that he is really 7’6”. I also doubt Dwight Howard legitimately measured a flat 6’9” either considering how he matches up to guys like Chris Bosh.

I stood next to Lonzo Ball when he was at UCLA (18 and listed at 6’6”) and he was around an inch
shorter than me (6’5”). I haven’t seen anything indicating that he’s grown since college so if Pelicans officially list him at 6’6” or close to it, that’s a B.S. measurement. Same goes if Pelicans list JJ Redick at 6’4” as I stood next to him getting on an airplane around 4 years ago and he looked 6’2”- 6’3” tops.
viper said on 9/Oct/19
IMO Simmons measured 6-9 3/8 rounded up to 6-9.5
viper said on 9/Oct/19
People thought Ben Simmons was near 7-0, lol.

Click Here
Canson said on 8/Oct/19
@JT: well Viper has a point. most of them were early morning. That’s if they are correct to begin with. Most teams have players losing just an inch or some none at all. That’s awfully fishy since a lot of guys may measure 6’6.25 and get listed 6’8” and don’t grow after being drafted. Jimmy butler is now listed 6’7” (down from 6’8) and he’s hardly any taller than Draymond. Butler isn’t even as tall as Kawhi. I wouldn’t have expected higher than 6’6” for Butler if it is early morning and afternoon he would be rounded down to 6’5” too most likely. Al horford was 6’9.25 as opposed to 6’8.75 which he was afternoon. Also look at Dallas’s where Barea and Doncic measured. Doncic is clearly shorter than Harrison Barnes who is now listed 6’6” and Barnes is like 1.5” taller than Draymond at best. Maybe less. And It does say it there that he found out this morning (Barea). Training camps begin in the morning and I don’t see why the teams would measure them after they’ve been working out knowing it will make them shorter. The teams are aware of the morning/evening shrinkage. I’m sure that most do what they have to. But I Don’t know about the Warriors or Lakers. Maybe mid morning. I always had Draymond 6’5” (as you know) so that shows his pre draft was early morning since he’s 6’5.75. He’s now listed at 6’5” and Lebron is now 6’7” which I’ve pretty much had him before which he measured this time.
Riccardo 5'7" said on 8/Oct/19
Click Here

Probably someone already posted it, but this is a nice video from 1960.
JT said on 7/Oct/19
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viper said on 7/Oct/19
Joel Embiid just measured 6-11.75 early morning, a guy everyone thought was
7-0 at worst afternoon height.

And Ben Simmons just measured 6’9.5” Click Here so I doubt these measurements are going to end the debate here.

Can you post the link showing that all of these measurements took place “early morning.”
viper said on 7/Oct/19
Joel Embiid just measured 6-11.75 early morning, a guy everyone thought was
7-0 at worst afternoon height.

It's really hard to see Andre as tall as him.

At most I can buy for Andre is 6-11, and maybe just 6-10.5
Wang hung said on 3/Oct/19
More like 6'10
JT said on 1/Oct/19
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Halb said on 29/Sep/19
There's no real reason, or evidence posted to suggest André lost any height up until the mid/late 80s. I can see how his back surgery could have delivered this, but even comparing pics of André and Studd at WM1 and WM5, the difference seems the same. When he had his later issues post WM6, then it seems he had real trouble in standing straight without support.
Ancient Aztec Guy said on 29/Sep/19
Hey Gertz, to respond to your comment from last summer, I agree that a lot of younger people don't take into consideration late 60s and early 70s Andre, you have to look back then to appreciate the height of a prime Andre. Also, long time no see DANIMAL!!!
ASC said on 28/Sep/19
He’s a tough one. The 1976 video I recently posted shows him ducking under doors as much as a seven footer would. (But I don’t know about footwear.) Also that year, though, he’s described by some sports writers as looking five inches taller than 6’5” Chuck Wepner. I’m more interested in his early career because his aging was not the same as an average person in their 30s and 40s.
Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Sep/19
@JT

You're right; my bad... you did say you thought Backlund was around 6'0" peak when standing straight:

JT said on 28/Nov/17
Here’s how Backlund (around 6’0”) would look standing straight with Andre Click Here If Backlund was really standing straight with Andre, he’s no more than 5’10” Click Here as Debbie Harry's no more than 5'6" in high heels.

That being said, here he was next to max 5'11" peak Bret Hart, looking shorter:
Click Here Backlund's puffy hair made him look taller.
JT said on 25/Sep/19
Re: Maurice Tillet, he was 5’8.5”, or a bit taller than Editor Rob Click Here IIRC, Rob’s head is around 9.5” long so Tillet’s is probably a little over 11” long, far below the 13.5” claim but still huge especially for his height. Big bone structure too. Here's a rough idea how Andre and Tillet would have measured up Click Here

Sotiris, I never thought Backlund was that short. He was probably at least 5’11” and maybe closer to 6’0” peak. In the pic with Andre he’s just craning his neck forward Click Here
cmillz said on 25/Sep/19
When did Andre start losing height?
Roderick said on 23/Sep/19
Rob, I'm curious really, how tall do you think Andre was before his passing?

I think he could have been as low as 6'9" flat.... maybe 6'8.5"..... he lost a LOT of height.
Editor Rob
Might have seemed near 6ft9, but I feel anywhere in 6ft 9-10 range is possible at his lowest point before passing.
Mm said on 23/Sep/19
JT,

That image of Andre with Hogan shows a past peak Andre. He had already been through back surgery by that time.
Canson said on 23/Sep/19
@JT: I’ve seen pics where he looked shorter than Phil on occasion and only 1.5-2” taller than Jordan on occasion. Jordan was a barefoot 6’4.5” so I would put Pippen minimum 6’6.5” still since he did edge Penny Hardaway who was probably a legit 6’6”. Pippen didn’t look the full 6’7” with 6’7” Grant Hill or 6’6” Penny Hardaway but he does look to be a weak 6’7”.
Riccardo 5'7" said on 23/Sep/19
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Sep/19
@Sotiris
I believe that some of the dimensions are exaggerated in order to make the wrestlers seem bigger. For example, in the WWE, they say that their ring's perimeter is 20" x 20", but it could be more 19" x 19". And also I've heard rumors that the WWE ropes are 5'0" tall, but that's BS. More like 4'6" max.

I think you're definitely right...
ASC said on 22/Sep/19
One thing to remember with these basketball comparisons is that Andre’s proportions are not like an average NBA player. He would not have such long legs, meaning he would not step step over the rope as easily as Kanter or Shaq.

Also, Andre’s head would be significantly larger than most, so shoulder height could be misleading.

It’s clear to me that Andre was never as tall as Wilt, but I also believe he had an appearance of height loss even by Wrestlemania III. Could be neck angle, spine, joints.

Footage of him from Dallas in 1976 shows a much different build: Click Here
iconjj said on 22/Sep/19
The top rope comes to Andre's belly button. So use 4'6 as the barometer and you will have Andre's height... if the 4'6 is accurate.
Canson said on 22/Sep/19
@Sotiris: yea 6’7” max for Pippen. At times he did look taller than Dennis Rodman but at times they were the same and I could even argue Rodman being taller in one or two pics. Pippen didn’t look by maybe 1/2” or 2cm taller than penny hardaway in pics
JT said on 22/Sep/19
Another example of what a real 7 footer is supposed to look like with a 6’5” guy. Click Here

Re: Scottie Pippen Click Here that’s what he generally looked with MJ and Phil Jackson, who NBA listed at 6’8” and still looked 6’7” up until even a few years ago, meaning he was a little taller when coaching the Bulls. Click Here Click Here Pippen does look like he’s lost some height currently, which would be surprising for his age although it may be posture-related to some extent.

That comparison looks pretty close, RoelC. Gordon Solie is another guy who stood next to Andre (in cowboy boots here) and Undertaker (as Mean Mark in WCW). Click Here The interview with Mean Mark was from Great American Bash 1990 but it does not look to be online anymore.
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Sep/19
Boss said on 20/Sep/19
Regarding Andre's head size.

Here with Hogan face to face Andre's head comes out 13.05".
Click Here

Here is Maurice Tillet head mold measured at 13.5". The head mold itself measures 13.5" as any of you can verify by going to Maurice Tillet website and the guy who owns the mold will give you any details. Maurice's actual head would be 12" range.
Click Here
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Andre's head was longer than Maurice's head.
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You're assuming those Andre/Hogan/Tillet comparison pics are 100% to scale... which isn't a foregone conclusion.

As for Tillet's supposed life-size head sculpt, that's something I already posted here, and is clearly false advertising, when his head was actually around 11.5" long, not 12" range... Click Here It was documented that the root of his nose to his chin measured 7".


Andre enthusiasts earnestly cling to the misbegotten notion that his head was bigger so as to justify an inflated height. Andre's head was max 12" long and his height never exceeded 6'10.5". Pics next to Wilt Chamberlain prove this. Venturing to suggest anything to the contrary is pure folly and an exercise in futility.

My best advice: find a useful distraction to try and numb the pain of reality:
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Sep/19
Here's Shaq getting into the ring to compare w/ Andre... Click Here Again, Andre was never 7 feet tall.


@Forgotmyname
Here's max 6'4" Barry Windham w/ Mike Graham... Click Here , Click Here

Superimposed Andre pic w/ 5'3" (5'6" in heels) Debbie Harry & Mike Graham... Click Here

While true that my comparison pic w/ Andre wasn't 100% to scale, saying that it was "totally out of proportion" is nonsense. Part of the reason I look big next to Andre is b/c I am big. Currently at 285 lbs, I'm not exactly a lightweight. That said, we're agreed that Andre was probably 6'10.5". Wilt's heels were 0.5" BTW. Also agree that Andre's height came more from a long torso, not crazy long Conan O'Brien legs...


@JT
I sent a post where I basically agreed w/ you that comparison pics can't be 100% accurate if they have a different camera height/angle... but it never went through for some reason.

I differ w/ you on Pippen being 6'7.5". I doubt he was ever more than 6'7" and looks to be under it now. Pippen next to a bald 6'7" Magic... Click Here Also, my head isn't exactly small... it's around 10.5" long and part of the reason it looks bigger is b/c my mouth is open, causing my chin to obviously hang lower.

Going back on old posts, I saw that you thought Bob Backlund might have been as low as 5'10", something I also agreed w/. This was your superimposed pic of Backlund/Debbie/Andre Click Here

Here's your pic of Backlund w/ mabye 5'10.5" Jerry Lawler... Click Here
In these pics, Backlund looks much shorter... Click Here , Click Here Both Jerry Lawler and Tommy Rich were billed as 6'0", whereas Backlund was billed as 6'1". Here's a recent pic of Backlund w/ 6'1" Ryback in a "Battle of the Backs" pic... Click Here Video footage of Lawler w/ max 5'11" Ric Flair... Click Here





Barefoot Andre w/ max 5'11" peak height (currently max 5'10") Bret Hart... Click Here
Bret w/ a height boost of max 1.25" puts Andre at max 6'10.5", even w/ a max 12-inch-long head... never Rob's listing of 7 feet.
184guy2 said on 20/Sep/19
@RoelC
Well Done !!! Andre looks no less than 3-4 inches taller than Taker , in 1991 when he was already broken Down . He also had good inches on Jake the Snake .
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Sep/19
@Sotiris
I believe that some of the dimensions are exaggerated in order to make the wrestlers seem bigger. For example, in the WWE, they say that their ring's perimeter is 20" x 20", but it could be more 19" x 19". And also I've heard rumors that the WWE ropes are 5'0" tall, but that's BS. More like 4'6" max.
Canson said on 20/Sep/19
RoelC said on 19/Sep/19
JT said on 15/Sep/19
Here are a few comparison photos with Andre/Hogan and others from close camera angles
Click Here Pippen measured 6’7.5” w/o shoes so that’s basically how Undertaker or Kane would have looked next to a 1987 Andre
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Although we have yet to find any footage of Andre & Undertaker together, both men did appear at a WWF event in MSG in 1991. They were both interviewed seperately by Sean Mooney on the same spot.
Click Here

With the aid of PS you can blend the 2 images together.
Click Here
And get something like this
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Andre is on crutches there, so he's probably unable to extend to his full height. Undertaker isn't standing straight either.

I have a very hard time believing Pippen was ever that tall. He’s not even as tall as Magic who measured around that mark. I wonder if he was really close to half and not just over 7 and they didn’t round him up. Also don’t know what time of the day. I think Rob’s 6’7” listing is an absolute best case seeing as how Michael jordan was only 6’4.5”. Magic may be closer to the camera and Scottie very well having had a longer career than Magic and several back and knee surgeries could’ve lost height today but Pippen is still shorter even with that. Pippen is 6’6” range at best today at least. I don’t disagree with JT about them being similar in height because Taker may have just been 6’7” peak too or a hair over (201)

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Boss said on 20/Sep/19
Regarding Andre's head size.

Here with Hogan face to face Andre's head comes out 13.05".
Click Here

Here is Maurice Tillet head mold measured at 13.5". The head mold itself measures 13.5" as any of you can verify by going to Maurice Tillet website and the guy who owns the mold will give you any details. Maurice's actual head would be 12" range.
Click Here
Click Here

Andre's head was longer than Maurice's head.
Click Here
Riccardo 5'7" said on 20/Sep/19
Sotiris Gravas

I think this one is a better comparison ropes/wrestlers Click Here
RoelC said on 19/Sep/19
JT said on 15/Sep/19
Here are a few comparison photos with Andre/Hogan and others from close camera angles
Click Here Pippen measured 6’7.5” w/o shoes so that’s basically how Undertaker or Kane would have looked next to a 1987 Andre
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Although we have yet to find any footage of Andre & Undertaker together, both men did appear at a WWF event in MSG in 1991. They were both interviewed seperately by Sean Mooney on the same spot.
Click Here

With the aid of PS you can blend the 2 images together.
Click Here
And get something like this
Click Here

Andre is on crutches there, so he's probably unable to extend to his full height. Undertaker isn't standing straight either.
Creeper said on 19/Sep/19
I am going with 7'1 minimum. Im not seeing what you guys are seeing. 6'10 range estimates are way too low
Forgotmyname said on 18/Sep/19
Forgot the pic Click Here
Forgotmyname said on 18/Sep/19
Oh by the way. For the 7 foot fraction I have another one. Andre and Wilt sans Arnold. You see, there are some factors to be considered here. First of all, yes Andre wears boots with larger heels here. But if you zoom in you will see that Wilt also has a little heel on his boots and his thick wig pretty much nullifies Andre´s advantage here. Second, Andre is standing further in the background. If he came closer he would look bigger. Nonetheless, you can also see that Chamberlain is the taller man. If he´d stand up straight he would have Andre by 2 inches. Andre was between 6´10" and 6´11" depending on physical health. He had very poor posture from the mid 80´s on and slouch down to looking 6´9". Same with Big Show today. I personally don´t think Big Show was ever much taller than Andre. He wore very thick boots early in his career and later with large opponents. Look what height he looks like right now. Do wrestler´s tend to lose so much height?

As for Kanter: That´s because he has longer legs, just like Kevin Nash.
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Sep/19
That's me in my early 20s standing inside something that's 4 feet high... Click Here , Click Here I'm slouching and my pants are very low on my hips, but that's what I would look like next to a WCW top rope that's 4 feet off the mat... Click Here

Wrestlers next to ropes that are supposedly 4'6" off the mat:

Andre... Click Here , Click Here , (1976) Click Here
Silo Sam... Click Here
Big Show... Click Here , Click Here
Uncle Elmer (barefoot)... Click Here
Tex McKenzie... Click Here
Giant Baba... Click Here
Matt Morgan... Click Here
Ernie Ladd and Gorilla Monsoon... Click Here , Click Here
Bobo Brazil... Click Here
Studd... Click Here
Hogan... Click Here


Check out Undertaker nowadays next to the ropes... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Sep/19
When I first came to this site over a year ago, I actually thought that Andre might be as low as 6'8", given how tall I looked next to ppl, believing I was only 6'6" (boy, did I get bashed over that)... Obviously, knowing I'm really 6'7" puts things into perspective. I find it interesting that Vitali Klitschko has said that he's really 6'6", even though I peg him at 6'6.5" and Editor Rob lists him as 6'7". The absolute best was a poster named Daniel reynolds who thought that Vitali was 6'11". Andre was never even 6'11" IMO. Max 6'10.5".



@Editor Rob

What's the likelihood of you ever downgrading Andre the way you did Big Show?
Editor Rob
He's held this mark a long time now, I have not seen enough to think a drastic change was possible.
Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Sep/19
@Christian

I definitely agree that Andre plodded his way into the ring due to his excess weight, as opposed to a far more lithe Kanter -- who tippytoed his way -- but I was implying that Andre was certainly never 7 feet tall by comparison -- much closer to 6'10". It has me wondering if maybe the ring ropes were perhaps higher back then...


Anyone know if the height of the ropes has been set in stone since day one? Online, I saw 4'6" above the mat for the WWE and 4'0" for the WCW...
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 17/Sep/19
@Mm
I agree that it's not the best comparison, but at least it was an illustration to see how a 6'7" guy could possibly look next to Andre.
Kyle Johnson said on 17/Sep/19
Personally I've always said a solid 7ft, with either a 1/4"-1/2" above or below that mark up to the early 80's. His poor posture in certain pics does belie this because of his build. By the time of the Wilt photos, Andre was 37 or 38, with the wear and tear from wrestling, his then diagnosed but never treated Acromegaly,and a broken ankle, he was a solid 6'11" outside of his boots. By Wrestlemania 3 and his back surgery, his poor posture made him 6'9" in the staredown with Hogan, but was likely 6'10". By 1992, Andre who couldn't stand up straight anymore, and was pushing 550lbs, was likely 6'9.5" but slouched so low in his crutches he would often look 6'7.5" or so.

Peak Andre: 7', 7'0.5" Max
Past peak/early 80's: 6'11"
Early 90's: 6'9.5"
Total height loss of 2.5-3" due to surgeries, lifestyle, and the rapid aging effects of untreated Acromegaly.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 17/Sep/19
@Sotiris
I think the fact that Kanter's a lot slimmer and agile than Andre was is the reason why, it has nothing to do with height.
Mm said on 16/Sep/19
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Sep/19
@Forgotmyname
I don't think Sotiris is implying that he was as tall as Andre. He was just using it as a comparison.

As soon as I looked at the images I knew it wasn’t a good comparison. Andre looks smallish, which is enough for me to know the scale is off.
edwards said on 16/Sep/19
Sotiris gravas is a big guy.actually he is one of those people who wants people to believe in reality rather than any Kay-Fabe and blind beliefs on height .like some of the posters here believe.unlike sime fanboys who claims hogan 6’7 and taker 6’8/9 .
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Sep/19
@Forgotmyname
I don't think Sotiris is implying that he was as tall as Andre. He was just using it as a comparison.
Sotiris Gravas said on 16/Sep/19
Here's Andre getting into the ring... Click Here

Now, compare that w/ 6'9.25" Enes Kanter doing it far more effortlessly Click Here

Big difference (pardon the pun).

Kanter next to maybe 6'11.5" Shaq... Click Here

In other words, Andre was never 7 feet tall. Does that mean Editor Rob should downgrade him? It most certainly does... the same way he did Big Show, who also was also never 7'0".
JT said on 15/Sep/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 14/Sep/19
@Roderick

Me vs. Andre... Click Here

The camera angle is too high with you and your mom to make a good comparison, which is evident by the angle of the floor and your feet and the fact that your head ends up looking around the size of Andre’s b/c of the higher camera. Not sure if Graham is a full 5’6” though. Graham looked a little shorter next to Andre than Debbie Harry in heels did so he may be under 5’6”. Dan Spivey said Graham was 5’2” but he wasn’t that short.

Here are a few comparison photos with Andre/Hogan and others from close camera angles
Click Here Pippen measured 6’7.5” w/o shoes so that’s basically how Undertaker or Kane would have looked next to a 1987 Andre.
Click Here
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Sep/19
@Roderick

A height of 6'7" really isn't that tall, but does look more freaky when wearing shoes. For a while I was wearing beat-up sunken-in running shoes due to my weight and overuse that gave me very little height boost. Now, w/ new sneaks, I look even taller and get stared at more -- which I hate. My dad was supposedly 5'11.5" peak height. I thought he was only 5'9" now, but he's really 5'9.5". As for my grandfather, he died before I was born and would have to ask about his height. My head is definitely more than 10" long.

As for the Andre pic I paired w/ myself... it's impossible to match up pics like that w/ 100% accuracy when they're taken from different heights/angles. I ended up looking 6'8", 6'9" in shoes, next to a maybe 6'10.5" barefoot Andre who was wearing thin, maybe 0.25-inch soles. So, trying to gauge Andre's height from my pic won't be precise. I simply wanted to show that Andre was never 7'5".
Forgotmyname said on 15/Sep/19
Sortiris, with all due respect: I honestly don't think you are as large as a professional wrestler with acromegaly who weighs over 400 pounds. Your picture is totally out of proportion. Looking at this, you are as large there as The Big Show in some of your own comparison pics.
If Mike Graham is 5'6", how tall does that make Kevin Sullivan? Click Here or even Gene Okerlund? Click Here

Ron Fuller was supposedly measured at 6´7" in basketball and usually billed at 6´9". Give or take an inch. Here he is with Andre. If anyone would be wearing cowboy boots here, it would be Fuller. (not saying he does) Andre dwarfs him here. Click Here

For comparison: Ron Fuller and another tall guy David von Erich Click Here
Forgotmyname said on 15/Sep/19
Sortiris, with all due respect: I honestly don't think you are as large as a professional wrestler with acromegaly who weighs over 400 pounds. Your picture is totally out of proportion. Looking at this, you are as large there as The Big Show in some of your own comparison pics.
If Mike Graham is 5'6", how tall does that make Kevin Sullivan? Click Here or even Gene Okerlund? Click Here

Ron Fuller was supposedly measured at 6´7" in basketball and usually billed at 6´9". Give or take an inch. Here he is with Andre. If anyone would be wearing cowboy boots here, it would be Fuller. (not saying he does) Andre dwarfs him here. Click Here

For comparison: Ron Fuller and another tall guy David von Erich Click Here
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Sep/19
@Canson
It could've been around a foot long. Certainly not anything over 13" though.
Roderick said on 14/Sep/19
@Sotiris WOW, you are tall. When people meet you, do they ever guess you as being like 6'9" or 6'10"? How tall was your dad, or grandfather?

To be honest, those photos aren't proportioned identically and Andre looks smaller there. Honestly I'm not an expert on head size, but if Andre's head was 12", and yours is lets say, 10", I think Andre looks 6'9.5" there, because you look to have the edge as far as the shoulders, but I'm not convinced your head was as big as his. If your head is 10.5", then I think he looks just 6'9" there. If your head is just 9.5", then I think Andre looks 6'10" there, you get the idea right?

But even you say he was at least 6'10" peak so we agree right?
cmillz said on 14/Sep/19
Even 6’10 peak is too low imo. I wonder if some people are underestimating him a bit because of his gigantic head. I mean, he had at least a 12 inch long head, right?
Sotiris Gravas said on 14/Sep/19
@Roderick

Me vs. Andre... Click Here
Riccardo 5'7" said on 13/Sep/19
@RP

I would say 6'10" max André and at least 5 inches shorter hogan, so I agree.
On hogan's weight I would say 270 more than 280 but not 295.
Roderick said on 13/Sep/19
IMO, his peak was minimum 6'10".
Mm said on 11/Sep/19
@ marley,
That’s too low. His peak height was somewhere between 6’11-7’0.
Andre had at least 12” over 5’11 Bob Uecker (MLB listed height @6’1). And that interview of Andre was in 1988, which was post back surgery. One could make a reasonable argument of 6’11ish peak height, but he was certainly taller than 6’8 /6’9,
RP said on 11/Sep/19
@ Riccardo 5’7”
I’ve seen that match a few times. Classic AWA action. It was filmed standard, with NO camera angle tricks. And I’ve got to admit...both Hogan & Andre look smaller there, than they did in matches filmed with camera angle tricks. By knowing how big Bockwinkle & Heenan were in real life, to me...Hogan only looks 6’5” & 280-285 lbs there. And Andre looks 6’10”-ish & 430-440 lbs. could Hogan have been 295 instead of 285 there? Sure, but...that would be my absolute max guess in that match. No way was Andre over 440 lbs in that match. And, I don’t even see him clearing 6’11” there...6’10” to 6’10.5” max is all I can honestly give him from that match filming. As much as I’d love to give Andre a legit 7’0”...I’m now saying 6’10.5” true barefoot height in the early 1980’s.
edwards said on 10/Sep/19
weak 7 feet can be likely for andre the jiant at peak.maybe 6'11.5 is also possible.
Riccardo 5'7" said on 9/Sep/19
Click Here

A rare match with Hogan and Andre
tree said on 9/Sep/19
@marley
Newcomer?
Roderick said on 8/Sep/19
@tree He's referring to a book I believe. Honestly I doubt the legitimacy of those measurements, they could have counted his hair height (which is probably the case). I don't know where he got the 6'2" shoulder measurement from, however. That's interesting.

IMO 6'11" is ok for his peak
Canson said on 8/Sep/19
@Christian: how large would you say his head is? Also I doubt he was ever 7’. I would say 6’11 range peak and 6’10 when he died
Canson said on 8/Sep/19
@Christian: how large would you say his head is?
marley said on 7/Sep/19
andre was a kind gentle person. however, i don't see him as a 7 footer. youtube has an interview done by don lane who is 6'4" and andre is seen standing side by side with him wearing cowboy boots. i would put andre at 6'8"-6'9" at best. he was a strong, wide, large man for sure.
cmillzz said on 7/Sep/19
I still think 6’11.5” peak is fair.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Sep/19
@Creeper
How do we know if the measurement was even in barefoot, or what time of day it was taken?
tree said on 5/Sep/19
Creeper said on 4/Sep/19
There's a lot of evidence that supports Andre being 7ft+ in his prime. We have a 7'1.25 measurement and a measurement to his shoulder region of 6'2. Assuming his head was around 11.5 inches that would place his height at 7'1.5, just like i said.

I would go 7ft1 minimum for Andre in his youth, perhaps even taller at peak 7'1.5.

SHOW ONE
Creeper said on 4/Sep/19
There's a lot of evidence that supports Andre being 7ft+ in his prime. We have a 7'1.25 measurement and a measurement to his shoulder region of 6'2. Assuming his head was around 11.5 inches that would place his height at 7'1.5, just like i said.

I would go 7ft1 minimum for Andre in his youth, perhaps even taller at peak 7'1.5.
JT said on 3/Sep/19
Andre and Scott Casey. Click Here Casey was billed at 6’0”.

Another pic of Richard Kiel and Jerry Lewis Click Here and a rough idea how Kiel would have measured up to Max Palmer Click Here
62B said on 1/Sep/19
Hogan was never 6'6" in my opinion. Simply wasn't 2" taller than my Grandfather.
Roderick said on 31/Aug/19
@tree Well obviously he was taller than 6'9" peak
Pdoggy said on 31/Aug/19
Ok one more time. Hogan was a little over 6 6 peak he claimed when he met Andre that Andre had at least 6 inches on him. Andre just over 7 feet peak and Hogan just over 6 6 peak.
tree said on 25/Aug/19
Click Here taller then peak nairn who was6ft9
Pdoggy said on 25/Aug/19
Somebody needs assistance in the math department. Just saying.
Halb said on 24/Aug/19
Nice COlumbo work, JT.
JT said on 24/Aug/19
Since no one goes to Richard Kiel’s page
Click Here
Click Here
Click Here
That’s Bill Engesser with Kiel. Engesser was listed as 7’3’ in college. The woman is Lola Falana, whom Rob has at 5’5” and is likely in high heels here.

Another pic of Kiel and Engesser from the early 1960s Click Here The first guy to Engesser’s left is Mike Love of the Beach Boys, who is Kevin Love’s’ uncle.
Another pic of Engesser
Click Here
Kiel was also a spokesperson for a meat company
Click Here

Duhon said on 20/Aug/19
Andre and Richard Kiel at the same spot in the Letterman studio Click Here

Here's Andre and Kiel actually standing in the same spot in the Letterman studio and what their respective footwear was. Click Here Kiel was around an inch taller than Wilt and Wilt was taller than Andre in cowboy boots so they’re not going to look the same height even with Andre’s footwear advantage. Kiel would have been at least 3 inches taller than Andre in comparable footwear.
Halb said on 23/Aug/19
André wearing his normal (pre-surgery)supercowboy boots there in the chatshow clip.
ASC said on 23/Aug/19
Biff, that’s a great comparison of Kiel and Andre. However, Andre has a clear footwear advantage—boots vs sneakers. Even so, this comparison makes him look 7’. With weight, posture, injuries at this point, he may appear slightly shorter than at his peak. I can see at least 214 cm (7’0 1/4”) peak.

Impressive size, no matter our estimates!
Duhon said on 20/Aug/19
Andre and Richard Kiel at the same spot in the Letterman studio Click Here
SeanR said on 19/Aug/19
Easy 7’0” early in his career, probably 6’10” towards end of career. Very similar to Big Show past and current.
bifftannen said on 19/Aug/19
Final Evidense that andre was around 216 to 218 cm, richard kiel is a legit 217 cm, look at these klips from letterman when they walk in the studio, same door same sign, so if richard kiel is a legit 217 cm andre must be to, and this i from the same year. Click Here Click Here
bifftannen@cool.dk said on 19/Aug/19
Final Evidense that andre was around 216 to 218 cm, richard kiel is a legit 217 cm, look at these klips from letterman when they walk in the studio, same door same sign, so if richard kiel is a legit 217 cm andre must be to, and this i from the same year. Click Here Click Here
Creeper said on 17/Aug/19
Andre did look short with bad posture I do see what youre saying Roderick but even 6'10.5 is too short for Andre he was definitely a 7'1.5 guy in his prime and as he got older he appeared shorter because of his posture but he didnt actually shrink he was still a solid 7ft when he died.
Creeper said on 17/Aug/19
Andre did look short with bad posture I do see what youre saying Roderick but even 6'10.5 is too short for Andre he was definitely a 7'1.5 guy in his prime and as he got older he appeared shorter because of his posture but he didnt actually shrink he was still a solid 7ft wgeb
Roderick said on 11/Aug/19
I'm not saying Andre measured as low as 6'7", I'm saying he could have looked it with bad posture. In the post match interview with Bill Watts, he did look 6'7" when he was talking to him. You can keep denying it if you want, I don't really care Lol.

In case you are wondering, I think he was 6'9.25" when he died. And at his tallest, 6'11", or probably just 6'10.5".
Pdoggy said on 11/Aug/19
@Boss
Just watched the Andre the Giant HBO documentary again on Daily Motion and at the 5:55 Mark he States He 7 1 376 lb appears to be right around the same time frame possibly after the measurement that happened that Jody Hamilton is referencing
Billy Batts said on 10/Aug/19
Andre's peak height when young and healthy- 6'10.5"

Andre's height when he became famous in the WWWF in the 1970s- 6'10"

Andre's height in the late 80s/early 90s when he was in bad health- 6'9"

1.5" total height loss only over his lifespan
K.A 188 ! said on 10/Aug/19
@Roderick your comments are always fallacious, Andre as never looked as low as 6ft7.
edwards said on 9/Aug/19
Roderick said on 6/Aug/19
@NINJA Look up on YouTube "Slick wants to be Andre the Giants manager". Andre looks 6'8" max next to Slick who was max 6'3".
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Honestly dude are you trippin ,dont get me wrong but andre being 6’7 or 6’8 is ridiculous troll.i simply cant see that.
Roderick said on 9/Aug/19
@Dan Trojan I will remain the adult and not ask someone if they are smoking bc of their estimate, Lol.

Andre has actually looked 6'7" when he was slouched over. He also did look 6'7" next to Arnie before. Do I think he is 6'7"? No.. I think he was about 6'11" max peak height.

Look at JTs post, perfect examples of Andre only looking 6'7".
Texas Tom said on 9/Aug/19
Andre would definitely not have been in cowboy boots in the douglass shot---he never wore them in his short-haired period when his back was bad.

To me, looking a touch over 6'10" in that shot.
Kunoichi said on 9/Aug/19
In 1992 with 192cm Jumbo Tsuruta

Click Here

In 1970 with Michelle Nador

Click Here
Dan Trojan said on 8/Aug/19
Roderick that is ridiculous andre never looked 6'7" what are you smoking seriously
cmillzz said on 8/Aug/19
Looking at old photos of Andre in the 70s, I honestly wouldn’t rule out a full 7’0. Maybe he was 6’11.5 peak? I still wouldn’t go under 6’11 range for him.
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Aug/19
@Roderick I already posted that Slick/Andre vid on 6/May/19, dude (love the music; makes me think of "Seinfeld"), and yes, Andre looks "short" there...

In that video clip JT just posted, the other guy is Bill Watts, who was billed as 6'3". Given Watts footwear advantage, Andre looked very short there.

Even w/ 5'8" Mean Gene. Short.

Here's Michael Douglas w/ 5'9" JCVD (circa '90s)... Click Here
Now, check out Andre (maybe in cowboy boots) w/ Douglas... Click Here
At only 6'7", a height of 5'9" reaches my chin. If Andre was wearing cowboy boots, then he definitely wasn't looking very tall here. In no way does he look 7 feet tall, regardless of his big head.
Roderick said on 6/Aug/19
@NINJA Look up on YouTube "Slick wants to be Andre the Giants manager". Andre looks 6'8" max next to Slick who was max 6'3".
JT said on 6/Aug/19
NINJA said on 3/Aug/19
Never seen Andre look 6’8” or 6’7”. Ever. That is ridiculous. Just sayin.

You have now Click Here Click Here Not that Andre was really that height at his peak. He was at around age 17 Click Here
Canson said on 5/Aug/19
@Roderick: I agree with you. Andre was 6’11” range peak and by the time he died may have been sub 6’10”
NINJA said on 5/Aug/19
Please post a picture of Andre looking 6’7”...
Roderick said on 4/Aug/19
@NINJA A slouching Andre in his last years did look as low as 6'7". But when standing straight for a measurement, I think he was about 6'9.25" tops before he died.
NINJA said on 3/Aug/19
Never seen Andre look 6’8” or 6’7”. Ever. That is ridiculous. Just sayin.
JT said on 3/Aug/19
RoelC, the Atlanta Hawks did measure Gonzalez. Click Here Not sure how scientific that measurement was but it guarantees no tip-toeing. The Sports Illustrated writer presumably got the 7’6 ½” measurement from Stan Kasten, then GM of the Hawks but I’m speculating. If true, that could be Gonzalez’s height in shoes. Per Rob, those Converse shoes only give around a 0.5” boost, which would yield a 7’6” w/o shoe measurement for Gonzalez. The shoes may not give that much though when standing on a wooden wedge like Gonzalez is.

iconjj said on 26/Jul/19
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.

Andre and Gonzalez were over-billed by WWF by around 6 inches but for different reasons. I recall reading many years ago that Andre was billed at 7'4" since b-baller Tom Burleson was being listed as 7'3" and WWF wanted Andre to be the tallest athlete. The NBA and ABA had several guys listed as 7’2” back then, including Kareem and Artis Gilmore, which could have also prompted Andre to be over-billed by more than the usual amount for wrestlers back then (around 2-3 inches).

Gonzalez's 8 foot billing just sounded good. Vince Jr. over-billed ~7’1” Giant Silva by only 4 inches at 7’5” (and probably since WCW was billing Big Show at 7’4” at the time). Vince, Jr. initially over-billed Big Show by only around 2 inches. Same with Khali.
iconjj said on 2/Aug/19
Roelc basketball stats is at least something. We have jack squat on Andre. If they were looking to bill him as taller than Kareem they could have done 7'3. 7'4 just seemed like an odd number. looked to me like they (whoever they were) added 6 inches. And vince jr just followed suit because it worked for Andre.
I'm not disagreeing with you, theres no facts per say to back this up just seems to add up to me.
Halb said on 2/Aug/19
André didn't have bad posture until post back surgery in 86/87.
tree said on 2/Aug/19
Undertaker Frank said on 31/Jul/19
The Reason McMahon billed Andre @ 7ft 4 is to make him taller than Kareem Abdul Jabbar who was listed @ 7ft 2

Why not 7ft3 lol
Roderick said on 1/Aug/19
@Creeper There are plenty of photos with Andre standing tall in his prime looking nowhere near 7'1".

Andre was a 6'11"ish guy peak height. He was probably as low as 6'9" when he died. With bad posture in the 90s Andre could easily look 6'7"-6'8" range.

No offense, but Andre wasn't anywhere near your estimate.
Undertaker Frank said on 31/Jul/19
The Reason McMahon billed Andre @ 7ft 4 is to make him taller than Kareem Abdul Jabbar who was listed @ 7ft 2
Creeper said on 31/Jul/19
Andre was 7'1-7'2 peak height. A very tall man with bad posture can easily look 6'10 range in photos, but it doesn't mean that's what he measures.

Andre gets a vote of 7'1.5 from me now I think 7'2 is possible but I just stick with 7'1.5 to be safe....

Honest opinions? I'm open to argue
ASC said on 30/Jul/19
Regarding the Hamilton quote, if he was “kayfabing,” wouldn’t he say Haystack was 600 pounds? This is not to say his recollection or the process was completely accurate, but it doesn’t seem like a straight lie.
Roderick said on 29/Jul/19
Giant Gonzalez was 7'6"-7'7" and billed at 8'0".

Andre was actually listed as tall as 7'6", when in reality he was never even 7 foot.

Big Show was billed at 7'4"-7'5" in WCW, then lowered to 7'2" in WWF, became 7'1" for just a little bit, and eventually just 7'0". IMO, I estimate his peak around 7'0". But by 2008 or so when he got the 7'0" billing, he had already shrunk an inch bc of the morbid obesity + wrestling. He was 6'11" in 2008 IMO.
RoelC said on 29/Jul/19
iconjj said on 26/Jul/19
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.
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Iconjj it's been said here many times, but don't look for any pattern in pro-wrestling billings as there isn't any. There's no billing method for Giants in the WWE. I'm sure Gonzales' 8ft billing had more to do with marketing, than with a billing method of overlisting Giants by 6 inches. Gonzales was a very tall individual and 8ft just sounds a lot better than 7'10" or 7'11".

You're also forgetting that McMahon Sr. wasn't the first one to bill Andre at 7'4". He was already billed at that height in both Canada and the US before he even made his WWWF debut.

And what legit stats do we have on Jorge? The only listings we have are his basketball listings, and we know how trustworthy those can be. Especially with very tall athletes like Gonzales. He might've been the 7'6" he was listed at, but it's not like it's edged in stone.
Guinness listed him at 7'6", but they never measured him personally.
cmillzz said on 29/Jul/19
I personally wouldn’t go lower than 6’11 for peak Andre.
Riccardo 5'7" said on 29/Jul/19
If a 7 foot tall guy stand near an other 7 foot tall guy being shorter then him, it means that the guy is not 7 foot tall. Simple.
iconjj said on 26/Jul/19
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.
Monkey knees said on 25/Jul/19
7ft dead on, early 80s peak. Lost a lot by 1990... Lifestyle, height, wrestling took its toll. Absolute legend, mind. As a kid i was terrified of him!
Roderick said on 24/Jul/19
If Andre was measured a tad over 7'1" (7'1.25" Im guessing) then he was a tad over 7'1", but we have no 100% legit height measurements from Andre so we cant really go by measurements anymore.

I cannot see Andre being 7'1" or even a full 7'0. Maybe for a measurement he could scape 6'11", no taller than that IMO.
62B said on 23/Jul/19
I would be shocked if Andre ever measured 7'1" barefoot. He was just too far away from 7'3" ish Rik Smits when I saw him. He was also visibly shorter than Wilt, who was likely a little under 7'1" at the time. I can see 7'0 early morning, but evening he would most likely have been 6'11" and change peak.
Importer said on 23/Jul/19
@Roderick Okay :)
Boss said on 23/Jul/19
Quoted from: joe hamilton, ---

In 1968 in Vancouver, BC. Andre was measured on TV and Haystack Calhoun was weighed, the measurement and the weigh-in was legit. Andre measured 7ft. 1 & 1/4 in. and Calhoun who claimes to weigh 601 lbs. actually weighed 558-I think. I know it was 550-something.


Quoted from: travlr, ---

How do you know the measurements were legit?  Those guys gimmicks were their sizes, why would they risk hurting their ticket sales by letting shoot weights and heights be made public?  Andre also had big hair.  He could have been 6 ft. 9 with three or four inches of hair
 travlrMarch 18th, 2004 08:35 GMT 


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I have absolutley no reason to doubt that Mr. Hamilton saw what he saw, or is trying to "'fabe us".

I'm just wondering about the time-line....
The Traveller
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Well The Assassins and Haystack Calhoun were in Vancouver during 1968 on the card listed below


Quoted from: travlr, ---

I have absolutley no reason to doubt that Mr. Hamilton saw what he saw, or is trying to "'fabe us".

I'm just wondering about the time-line....


Quoted from: joe hamilton, ---

I don't have to "FABE" you as you put it, you do that to yourself. In case you haven't heard Kay-Fabe in wrestling died about 15 yrs. ago. It remains alive and well in other pro-sports however. When I attempt to answer questions I do it with the purpose in mind of being as accurate as I can, but when we talking well over 35 yrs, ago I may not have the dates exact, but if I tell you something happened it DAMN well happened and I remember it well or I don't mention it. The TV station that carried our wrestling show had coverage all over Canada, and Andre, who had not started wrestling there yet was doing advance publitity and a commentator on that station didn't believe he was that big or Calhoun weighed that much, so to prove him wrong, they taped a segment for his show pryor to taping our wrestling show. If you knew the commentator, who was always knocking wrestling




Quoted from: travlr, ---


Excellent!

Well, to add some to Mr. Hamilton's notes, the TV show was carried via most of the CTV Network stations throughout Canada (although not by the network itself, which was a little strange).  The announcer in question might have been Ron Morrier, who was brought in by Gene Kiniski.  Ron worked for Vancouver All-Star for over 20 years, as well as working at BCTV in other capacities.  Big Thunder never told Ron what was going to be happening, so he was always surprised, and showed it.  He was prettymuch loved by the local/regular workers in
Riccardo 5'7" said on 22/Jul/19
6'10.5 max for his peak. 6'9 in his last day?
RoelC said on 21/Jul/19
Boss said on 18/Jul/19
@RoelC.
I just don't see him making this whole story up. There is a way too many things to the story and Jody seems like a pretty straight shooter to me anyway. He was remembering back 30 years so he might have forgotten the newscasters name as he mentioned. Also, Andre gave a height of 2.18m when asked by family or friends so he might have been giving his height in shoes but it's right in line with Hamilton's account. His tailor measurement's also back up Andre being in 7' range as well.
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Jody Hamilton himself said he remembered it well, or he wouldn't have mentioned it. So why specifically mention the newscaster if he didn't remember his name. That name is crucial into determing if there is any truth in Hamilton's story.
Pdoggy said on 21/Jul/19
The other compelling fact is that Jody Hamilton actually acknowledges kayfabe by saying Andre went from 7 1 to 7 6 in the advertisement. Why would he make up 7 1?? Why not some other arbitrary height??
Roderick said on 21/Jul/19
@Importer I meant he looked short compared to his old self. I'm 5'11" so I have no business calling 6'9" short Lol.
Importer said on 20/Jul/19
@Roderick your comment on 5/Jul/19 certainly gave me that idea.
Roderick said on 19/Jul/19
@Importer When did I call 6'9" short?
Importer said on 18/Jul/19
Lol @Roderick are you seriously calling 6'9 short?
Boss said on 18/Jul/19
Also, Hamilton mentioned Andre wasn't wrestling in North America yet which was exactly right. How would he remember all these fine little details because he was telling the truth. Also, Jody was actually there for the Andre's measurement and the weighing of Haystacks Calhoun.
Boss said on 18/Jul/19
@RoelC.
I just don't see him making this whole story up. There is a way too many things to the story and Jody seems like a pretty straight shooter to me anyway. He was remembering back 30 years so he might have forgotten the newscasters name as he mentioned. Also, Andre gave a height of 2.18m when asked by family or friends so he might have been giving his height in shoes but it's right in line with Hamilton's account. His tailor measurement's also back up Andre being in 7' range as well.
Roderick said on 18/Jul/19
Sorry about my comment.

I thought all those listings were common knowledge, didnt know it was rumor. Thanks for pointing that out guys.

Aside from those, I think Andre was 6'11" max peak, and probably more like 6'10.5".

I wont go by rumor anymore, only direct fact.
RoelC said on 17/Jul/19
Boss said on 16/Jul/19
The measurement was probably in shoes or ring gear. What are we just supposed to ignore it. You provide something with as much detail of Andre being measured and Jody completely back up his story when you guys questioned him on it and I didn't see you arguing with him about it because he was clearly telling the truth.
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Jody Hamilton is just telling you exactly what you wanna hear: that Andre was over 7ft tall. We all know that's all you're interested in! Any info that points in that direction is accepted without questions asked and every info that points the other direction is flat out ignored by you.

I wasn't part of the original discussion back then on Kayfabememories. Don't know why you're implying like I was. But the people who were, were also questioning the timeline and all Jody Hamilton replied was: If I tell you it happened, it damn well happened.
Yeah that's one way to end a discussion. He provided no back-up to his claim. Why do you keep telling he did! Hamilton might've written an interesting story, but he doesn't back it up with evidence.
You tell me why he didn't mention the name of the person who measured Andre and weighed Calhoun. He made a big deal about the guy on 'kayfabememories', saying that the measurements were legit and that the guy who measured them both was always knocking pro-wrestling. Yet not once, does Hamilton mention the guy's name and instead refers to him as the 'tv-guy'.

Hamilton's claim holds no more value than Meltzer's claim of Andre being measured in France. As neither one has any back-up proof. And you're probably one of the most vocal persons to have spoken against Meltzer's claim. You even posted Andre's match listings back then and trying to prove Andre wasn't in France at the time. There are no match results of Andre wrestling in Canada in 1968 either, yet now you don't seem to have any problem with that. Why's that I ask?

If Andre was measured in shoes or ring gear he would've still been over 7ft barefoot and according to his billings at the time, he clearly wasn't. No way would a 7ft+ wrestler get listings of 6'10"-6'11" in pro-wrestling. Especially considering his size was his gimmick.
If Andre was measured over 7ft1 why did he allow himself to be listed inches under that mark for several years.
edwards said on 17/Jul/19
@ johan the second picture of andre and vince ,andre is standing on something that's why he looks taller
@dan trojan agreed dude
ASC said on 16/Jul/19
Years ago I read that Andre was measured at 6’10” after passing away. I recall this being reported in Sports Illustrated but I cannot find that quote in their archive, so it’s possible it was a different publication. I know without the text, this post is suspect, but I’m throwing it out there in case it leads to that text.
Sotiris Gravas said on 16/Jul/19
@ken6-3 It's definitely you, lol. I would never, ever want to be Andre's size.
Boss said on 16/Jul/19
@ROELC

The measurement was probably in shoes or ring gear. What are we just supposed to ignore it. You provide something with as much detail of Andre being measured and Jody completely back up his story when you guys questioned him on it and I didn't see you arguing with him about it because he was clearly telling the truth.
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Mm said on 16/Jul/19
@RoelC,

It’s not a “theory”—it’s from Andre’s mouth. I also heard him say that.
ken6-3 said on 15/Jul/19
post these docs please.thanks

Roderick said on 7/Jul/19
Sotiris actually might be right...

The France military listed Andre as 6'10".

He was listed both as 6'9" and 6'10" in medical documents.

He wore cowboy boots to literally everywhere except the ring.

The thought of a 6'10" peak Andre bothers me... especially when growing up I thought he was 7'6"!
ken6-3 said on 15/Jul/19
is it me or @Sotiris seem to be jealous of these big guys? Guy should have his posting privileges revoked.

ps. 1987 was not peak Andrea.
RoelC said on 15/Jul/19
Boss said on 13/Jul/19
Andre was growing throughout the 60's into at least 1971 by his account. His billings were increasing into the early 70's because he was still getting taller. Andre started wrestling at age 17 and grew in height until age 24 or 25.
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That theory doesn't hold up when you look at all his billings and not just handpick a few of them like you're doing for obvious reasons.

Yes his billings in France were slowly increasing, but not by much.
His common billing in France was 2m10 and 140kg in 1966 and 1967, 2m11 and 144kg in 1968 and early 1969. He also had a few 2m08 billings in 1966 and 2m12 billings in 1969. It wasn't until he returned in 1970 that they started billing him at 2m14 and 171kg.

In the UK however he was billed 6'10" when he arrived in May 1969 and during the 2nd leg of his tour (from September onwards) he was billed at 6'11". Out of 5 promoters only one billed him at 7'.
So the UK billings obviously do not support the theory he was still growing at the time. 6'11" is the same height he was billed at in France from 1968 onwards and 6'10" was even less than his common billings from 1966 onwards. And the UK was a totally new territory for Andre, so excuses of UK promoters using old billings don't hold up.

His billings in the 70's are clearly exaggerated unless you believe he had a 2nd growth spurt at age 23.

And where does your Jody Hamilton claim fit into the theory of Andre still growing? You posted that claim about a million times over the past 4 years and always like to tell people how legit that measurement was. Hamilton claimed a measured height of over 7ft1 for Andre, yet he didn't even get billings that high until he went to Japan in 1970. Up until he made his North American debut in mid-1971 he was never billed taller than 2m14 in Europe.
Dan Trojan said on 15/Jul/19
Johan that second picture of andre and vince andre us standing on something that's why he looks taller
Johan 185 cm said on 14/Jul/19
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Old pic of Vince and Andre.

Cowboyboots or vince in a hole?

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Looked here huge as well.

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Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Jul/19
@Kunoichi Bill Eddy saying Andre was 7'1" before he died makes Daniel reynolds look intelligent by comparison. Believing in something so ridiculous doesn't speak well of your intelligence, either.


It's like you're a cult member who needs to be deprogrammed. Kinda scary.
Boss said on 13/Jul/19
Andre was growing throughout the 60's into at least 1971 by his account. His billings were increasing into the early 70's because he was still getting taller. Andre started wrestling at age 17 and grew in height until age 24 or 25.

Here is Andre being billed at 7' in 1969.
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Here in late 60's or early 70's in France at 2.14m.
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Here in 1971 in France at 2.14m.
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Here on his first Japan tour at 2.18m
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cmillzz said on 13/Jul/19
I think what 62B estimated him at back in 1988 was what he actually was mid-morning. That would mean his low height would have been 6’10.5, maybe even a bit lower, but from what I’ve seen he had already lost an inch of height by then at least. I think a strong 6’11 range would be reasonable for Andre at his peak. Honestly even 7’0 wouldn’t have surprised me, but he probably never was that tall at a low.
Kunoichi said on 12/Jul/19
Bill Edie said once Andre's height was 7 ft 1 in one year before he died. Bill Edie is a very intelligent person and I would like to believe in his remarks.
Pdoggy said on 12/Jul/19
@RoelC

Well put. I may not agree with what your height estimate is on Andre but I certainly agree we need to stick to facts rather than speculations.
Roderick said on 11/Jul/19
When I watched a video on YT, it described Andre as 6'10" going into the France Military.

I don't make stuff up, I just write from observations. I have no reason to lie.

Also as for him being listed as 6'9" and 6'10", I thought that was common knowledge. I don't know where that's from.

I think Andre was 6'10.5"-6'11" and shrank to 6'9" before he died from my own observations, never 7'0".
Importer said on 11/Jul/19
A real life Spartan. Rest In Peace.
viper said on 10/Jul/19
No way he was only 6-10 peak
RoelC said on 10/Jul/19
Roderick said on 7/Jul/19
Sotiris actually might be right...
The France military listed Andre as 6'10".
He was listed both as 6'9" and 6'10" in medical documents.
He wore cowboy boots to literally everywhere except the ring.
The thought of a 6'10" peak Andre bothers me... especially when growing up I thought he was 7'6"!
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Where are those medical documents then? I've been posting here for over 13 years, yet I've never seen anyone post any medical document on Andre. But I have seen plenty of people claiming they saw such a document and funny enough the height in said document never seems to match with one another. People who want Andre to be 7ft or taller will claim they saw a document that has him at precisely such a height, and people who want Andre to be shorter than 7ft will claim they saw a document that has him below 7ft.

The documentary makers from HBO with all there money, resources and contacts couldn't find any official document that showed Andre's true height. They claimed medical documents were all destroyed. People that might've known Andre's true height were either sticking to kayfabe (like Hogan), exagerrating his height (both his brothers claimed Andre was 7ft2) or pretending they didn't know exactly how tall Andre was (like Vince McMahon). They apparently went to great lenghts to find an answer to Andre's true height & weight, but in the end they couldn't get a definitive answer to that question and support it with evidence. Yet here you are claiming you saw such documents!

According to the A&E biography Andre was rejected for service in the army. They might've measured him during his physical, but would such document still excist after 50+ years? And the French military wouldn't list people in feet and inches as they use the metric system.


If you wanna prove Andre was less than 7ft you could've just referred to his early height billings in Europe during the 60's. No need to make stuff up.
MelvinJones said on 10/Jul/19
Andre was only Wilt's height wearing his big heeled cowboy boots. Why do people still believe Andre was 7 feet or taller?
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Jul/19
@GST I agree that Andre was never more than 6'10.5".

As for everything else you said... Click Here

Just kidding, bro. This pretty much sums it up... Click Here

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