How tall is Andre The Giant

Andre The Giant's Height

7ft 0 (213.4 cm)

Andre Rene Roussimoff was a French Wrestler and Actor from The Princess Bride. His official site gives him 7ft 4, also shows his 'measured' height from wrestlemania 3 (1987) as a whopping 7ft 5. He suffered from acromelagy and was supposedly 6ft 7 age 17. His spine took a lot of damage over his career. In 1971 Andre claimed to be "214cm" (Just over 7ft) at a weight of 171kg.

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7ft 0in (213.4cm)
HarveyFinkelmatter said on 21/Feb/19
Hey Gravas, how tall do you think John Wayne is? A Photoplay article from 1930 describes him as 6'2 and 198 pounds. Your posts are the best. Thanks.
RoelC said on 21/Feb/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Feb/19
@Boss We all hear rumors that wrestlers wore lifts... seeing it in print in a book like "Sex, Lies, and Headlocks," or having Jesse Ventura say that it was indeed the case definitely lends credence to it being factual and not just something to dismiss as mere hearsay. Thanks for posting that. I wonder how many others might have worn lifts...
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It might not be hearsay, but just because it's written in a book does not make it true. Mike Mooneyham was one of the co-authors of the book 'Sex, Lies & Headlocks' and he also claimed that Big John Studd wore 4-inch lifts in his boots so he could look eye to eye with Andre the Giant.

The same book also claims Andre was about 6'11".

I would take anything Jesse Ventura says about Hogan or anything Hogan says about Ventura with a huge grain of salt. It's no secret that those two guys hate each other and have been bashing each other in interviews for over 25 years.

If Hogan wore lifts, it does not make Andre any taller. It would make Hogan shorter. Hogan stood next to many people besides Andre, and he never looked more than 6'6" in his footwear, unless he was wearing cowboy boots. Hogan only looked 4 inches taller than Vince McMahon and about 3 inches taller than Tony Atlas back in his early WWF days.
Besides, why in the blue hell would Hogan were lifts when he's facing off a guy like Andre. Who was the giant in the WWF again?
Boss said on 20/Feb/19
I don't know how anyone could read that whole thing and have any doubt about what Jody Hamilton saw unless they're just trying to support their own agenda. He was very adamant about it and detailed or he wouldn't even have mentioned it. Just by reading the emotional response to the Fabe comments I have absolutely no doubt he was telling the truth. I would love to find that old tv footage from NWA Allstars wrestling in Vancouver of the measurement but maybe someday it will pop up online somewhere. Haystacks Calhoun was wrestling for them in this era as well which adds more credence to the story. He also mentions the fact that Andre wasn't wrestling in North America at this time which was absolutely correct and he's going back 35 years here. Andre's enormous head size and posture make him look shorter in comparison with tall people as his head was 3" longer or more than most people he's being compared to. So their natural height reference points are higher but Andre's head is much longer than their heads which we can see in the Wilt pics.
Andre definitely lost height over his life but could still look 6'10" even at the end. He was too big to fit in the crematorium in France which could only accommodate up to a 6'10" man. I believe the whole 6'10" thing came from Andre's earlier billings as Andre still grew in height until early 1970's. He started wrestling at 17 in 1964 and grew in height till age 24-25. Anything else is just speculation or guessing.
Boss said on 19/Feb/19
Here is Terry Todds full response that didn't post for some reason


terry todd, July 12, 2010:

JT,

I just became aware of your post and thought I’d respond. I agree that the Big Show of ten years ago would be very close to Mark in shoulder breadth. I saw him many times during that period and he was truly broad–and also very strong in his shoulders even though he didn’t push it in the gym even then. Regarding his hand size relative to Andre’s, having been around both quite often I have to disagree as I believe Andre’s hands were significantly wider than Big Show’s–just as
Andre’s feet were much larger in both length and width than Show’s.

I agree with your general points about Howard, although he’s so much wider than almost all of the other NBA big men that his measurement would be interesting to see–although not up in the Henry, Williams, and Show category. As for Andre’s height, he was a good 7′ early in his career, and maybe a bit more, but age, a terrible back, and gravity brought him “down” a peg or two. I saw him on several occasions when he weighed over 500 pounds, but I also saw him in Georgia shortly after he cam down from Canada and I suspect he was within 15 pounds of 400, one way or the other. This was about 40 years ago; I went backstage to meet him, interview him, and take a few photos with him. I still recall how “inhuman” he looked and how amazingly agile he was. For example, at one point in the match he ran across the ring, jumped over the top rope, caught the top rope in one hand for contril as he went over, and landed on the floor just outside the ring
Halb said on 19/Feb/19
I like listening t James E Cornette on the vangaurd channel on yt. He mentions André in a recent one, that 'André was 7 feet, or close to.' Back in the 70's at his heyday.
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Feb/19
Sorry, I forgot to post the pic of Iceman Parsons next to 6'3" (billed 6'6") Terry Gordy (1987):
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Here's Gordy next to ANDRE (1992)... Click Here


Gordy w/ 6'5" (billed 6'8") David Von Erich... Click Here


Von Erich and a tiptoeing ANDRE... Click Here
Boss said on 18/Feb/19
Here is Terry Todd who was 6'2" spenthe time with both Andre and Paul Wight replying to JT on who was taller and bigger of the 2 giants.

JT, May 29, 2010:

Dr. Todd,

If you have the opportunity, your getting some shoulder, wrist and hand measurements of Paul Wight (wrestler Big Show) could be revealing. He’s probably close to Mark Henry’s width.
Wight back in 1999-2000 was arguably wider than he is now. His hands are also about as wide as Andre the Giant’s were but not as long. Like Wight and Andre, Dalip Singh (wrestler Great Khali) has a huge frame and hands as well due to acromegaly/gigantism and is the tallest of the three.

A shoulder measurement of Dwight Howard sounds interesting but would probably be disappointing. With television screens now in the 16:9 format, everyone looks wider than they really are. If you switch the screen to the old 4:3 format, Howard still looks wide but not quite as impressive. His square (rather than sloped) shoulders and narrow waist also add to the illusion of width. At a legit 6’10”, he’s still a remarkable athlete.

I really enjoyed your SI article about Andre the Giant. As Andre has since passed away, can you share some insight on his real height and overall size? After factoring in the afro and cowboy boots that he almost always wore outside the ring, my best guess is that he was actually closer to 6’10” and probably around 425-450 lbs. when you interviewed him. Wight is roughly 7’0” (he was listed as 7’1” as a center for Wichita State) and generally looks at least 2 inches taller when standing next to the same people that Andre did (or when standing next to persons of the same height that Andre did). Thanks!
Boss said on 18/Feb/19
Here is the whole story about the measurement in Vancouver aka Traveller mentioned Jody Hamilton was not trying to Fabe us and Jody Hamilton who was present for measurement sets record straight



 


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In 1968 in Vancouver, BC. Andre was measured on TV and Haystack Calhoun was weighed, the measurement and the weigh-in was legit. Andre measured 7ft. 1 & 1/4 in. and Calhoun who claimes to weigh 601 lbs. actually weighed 558-I think. I know it was 550-something.
 travlrMarch 17th, 2004 23:11 GMT 


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1968?

[ponders]

Andre made his debut in 1964, and wins the IWA tourney in Japan in May 1971.  First Toronto appearance (after wrestling in Montreal for a year or more) was Oct. 17/71.

When did Carpentier and Valois bring him over from France again?  Thought it was '69.......?

(Note:  I'm not doubting it was done, I'm just a little mystified on the timing of it.....)
The Traveller
a fan since '68....

"The reason so many of us fans here complain about wrestling today is because Mr. Thesz spoiled us" -- barry jordan
 MWThomasMarch 17th, 2004 23:19 GMT 


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Maybe it was really one of those Jack Pfeffer sound alike wrestlers.

You know, like Laundry the Giant and Hayseed Calhoun.


 Knight of DarknessMarch 18th, 2004 06:49 GMT 


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Quoted from: joe hamilton, ---

In 1968 in Vancouver, BC. Andre was measured on TV and Haystack Calhoun was weighed, the measurement and the weigh-in was legit. Andre measured 7ft. 1 & 1/4 in. and Calhoun who claimes to weigh 601 lbs. actually weighed 558-I think. I know it was 550-something.



How do you know the measurements were legit?  Those guys gimmicks were their sizes, why would they risk hurting their ticket sales by letting shoot weights and heights be made public?  Andre also had big hair.  He could have been 6 ft. 9 with three or four inches of hair
 travlrMarch 18th, 2004 08:35 GMT 


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I have absolutley no reason to doubt that Mr. Hamilton saw what he saw, or is trying to "'fabe us".

I'm just wondering about the time-line....
The Traveller
a fan since '68....

"The reason so many of us fans here complain about wrestling today is because Mr. Thesz spoiled us" -- barry jordan
 clawmasterMarch 18th, 2004 08:49 GMT 


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Well The Assassins and Haystack Calhoun were in Vancouver during 1968 on the card listed below and several there after.

May 6, 1968 - Kovacs; Vancouver
The Assassins b. Don Leo Jonathan & Sky Hi Jones ... Paddy Barrett b. Abdullah the Butcher ... Haystacks Calhoun b. Bad Boy Shields & Jack Bence -Handi-cap match ... Tex McKenzie b. Karl Von Steiger ... Armand Hussein b. Eric Froelich

Vance's site only lists house show cards for Vancouver. No TV listings.
Heh, if we counted all the held up titles in particular AWA areas and cities, Nick Bockwinkel is a 50+ time Champion--khawk20
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Quoted from: travlr, ---

I have absolutley no reason to doubt that Mr. Hamilton saw what he saw, or is trying to "'fabe us".

I'm just wondering about the time-line....


I don't have to "FABE" you as you put it, you do that to yourself. In case you haven't heard Kay-Fabe in wrestling died about 15 yrs. ago. It remains alive and well in other pro-sports however. When I attempt to answer questions I do it with the purpose in mind of being as accurate as I can, but when we talking well over 35 yrs, ago I may not have the dates exact, but if I tell you something happened it DAMN well happened and I remember it well or I don't mention it. The TV station that carried our wrestling show had coverage all over Canada, and Andre, who had not started wrestling there yet was doing advance publitity and a commentator on that station didn't believe he was that big or Calhoun weighed that much, so to prove him wrong, they taped a segment for his show pryor to taping our wrestling show. If you knew the commentator, who was always knocking wrestling you would know it was legit.
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Excellent!

Well, to add some to Mr. Hamilton's notes, the TV show was carried via most of the CTV Network stations throughout Canada (although not by the network itself, which was a little strange).  The announcer in question might have been Ron Morrier, who was brought in by Gene Kiniski.  Ron worked for Vancouver All-Star for over 20 years, as well as working at BCTV in other capacities.  Big Thunder never told Ron what was going to be happening, so he was always surprised, and showed it.  He was prettymuch loved by the local/regular workers in
Boss said on 18/Feb/19
This is the most detailed account out there of Andre being legitimatey measured. Andre was probably in shoes or wrestling boots for the measurement.

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Boss said on 18/Feb/19
62B said on 17/Feb/19
@ Boss. What year did Hogan go AWA? I was certain that when I saw him in 1980 he was AWA and a little taller than my 6'4" grandfather. If Hogan was wearing lifts in 1980 then I cant even put him at 6'5".


In 1981 after filming Rocky against the bosses wishes he started with AWA. He wrestled with WWWF from late 1979 to 1980 with him having a fued with and losing to Andre at Showdown at Shea in August. He went to Japan and then made his debut in AWA in 1981.
62B said on 17/Feb/19
@ Boss. What year did Hogan go AWA? I was certain that when I saw him in 1980 he was AWA and a little taller than my 6'4" grandfather. If Hogan was wearing lifts in 1980 then I cant even put him at 6'5".
Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Feb/19
Andre and maybe 6'5" Don Slatton... Click Here


Andre and 6'7.5" Giant Haystacks... Click Here


Just for fun, here's Andre coming out of a car... Click Here Getting in and out of a car must have been sheer agony for this guy.

Here's Giant Haystacks getting out of a car... Click Here



And, of course, for my pal Pdoggy... Click Here :)




I WANT YOU GUYS TO SEE THIS:


Tiger Conway Jr. w/ Don Slatton (1979)... Click Here
Tiger w/ Ernie Ladd (1978)... Click Here
Tiger w/ Johnny Valentine, billed 6'4" (1975)... Click Here

Tiger and Iceman Parsons... Click Here
Parsons and 6'3" Terry Gordy (1987)


Tiger Conway Jr. (billed 5-11) with Steve Keirn. .. Click Here
Steive Keirn and 5'10" Rick Martel... Click Here


Steve Keirn and Andre the Giant and maybe 5'6" Mike Graham... Click Here
Same pic, but w/ more tiptoe... Click Here



So, how tall do you think Don Slatton, Ernie Ladd, Johnny Valentine, and Andre looked here by using Tiger Conway Jr. as a benchmark...?
Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Feb/19
@Boss We all hear rumors that wrestlers wore lifts... seeing it in print in a book like "Sex, Lies, and Headlocks," or having Jesse Ventura say that it was indeed the case definitely lends credence to it being factual and not just something to dismiss as mere hearsay. Thanks for posting that. I wonder how many others might have worn lifts...
Canson said on 17/Feb/19
Barkley is not 2” taller than Jordan even in that pic. Also realize that people on the right side look taller than those on the left. Jordan also has said that Barkley and he are the same height and Jordan is 6’4.5 as well. As for the pic with Barkley and Magic it is not a good pic. Obviously the first one below shows Magic looking much taller but if Barkley is really 6’6 and Magic 6’7 which he is today that would not appear that much of a difference

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Terry porter with 6’4.75 measured Michael Redd (looks the same amount of difference with barkley and porter) if not more

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Boss said on 16/Feb/19
Charles Barkley is not a good person to use for judging heights cause alot of times he looks at least 6'6" range. Like here standing perfectly in line with Jordan. Barkley looks almost 2" taller than Jordan.

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Charles Barkley and Magic from playing days.
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Charles and Magic more recently.
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Also Hogan isn't great for comparison because of his height loss and when Hogan was hired by WWF back in the day. Vince Sr gave Hogan a thousand dollar sequence robe and a pair of boots with lifts in them so they could bill him taller than his 6'5" range height. Hogan had much bigger boot souls on the outside if his boots than Andre. We know now he was getting more help with internal lifts so Andre would be an extra 1.5" - 2" more barefoot than Hogan in any wrestling boot comparison photo. This is also probably why Hogan gets a 6'6" barefoot height because of his lifts. Jesse Ventura also said Hogan wore lifts and Jesse is a pretty straight forward kind of guy.
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Sotiris Gravas said on 16/Feb/19
@Canson Here's a pic our good friend aaronius might enjoy: 6'4.5" Charles Barkley and 6'2 3/8" (not 6'4 3/8") Shawne Merriman... Click Here

Merriman and 6'0.5" Trump... Click Here

W/ 6'7" Magic... Click Here

Reality... Click Here vs. fiction... Click Here


Just for fun... 6'4.5" Charles Barkley, Hulk Hogan, and the same person... Click Here Hogan would like ppl to think he's still 6'4.5", when he clearly isn't. The photo wasn't even superimposed properly, as Hogan and that guy should be slightly lower.


The Rock still tells ppl he's still 6'4.5", even though he's now 6'2" and was once 6'3"... Probably b/c of fiction like this which claimed he was 6'5"... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Feb/19
@Halb It's always weird when someone on here thanks me rather than calling me a troll. Thanks, Halb. And thank you for putting in the effort to spell my name correctly. :)
JT said on 15/Feb/19
Kritiker said on 30/Jan/19

With all due respect: Some of the pics used here for comparing are relatively useless. Here is why:

- In many photos you can´t see their feet. Stance, footwear, ground, angle etc. will change the whole situation. See the infamous Wepner/Andre staredown. First, Andre is looking way down on. Second, there are other pics from this encounter where you can see Andre is in wrestling boots, while Wepner wears cowboy boots. Mystery solved.

Mystery solved – Wepner was not wearing cowboy boots with Andre. Click Here The doctor wasn't either....

Boss said on 13/Feb/19

Here is Andre and Studd both in dress shoes with Andre closer to the camera. There is a huge difference.

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Andre was wearing brown cowboy boots in that Micki and Maude movie Click Here Not sure what Studd's footwear was.
Halb said on 13/Feb/19
The pics do help Sotiris, thanks for them
Boss said on 13/Feb/19
Here is Andre and Studd both in dress shoes with Andre closer to the camera. There is a huge difference.

Click Here
Boss said on 13/Feb/19
Big John Studd is way closer to the camera in that pic with Andre which makes him look taller than he actually is.
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Feb/19
@Pdoggy The man who posts nothing but useless comments and no pics wants ppl to post what he determines to be "quality," not quantity. Dude, you wouldn't know quality if it hit you in the face (not that I'm advocating violence, mind you, only humor)... Click Here , Click Here

I'm just teasing, of course. You know how fond I am of you.


As for Facebook, here's 6'7" Mathias Doepfner w/ 5'7" Mark Zuckerberg enjoying each other's company, the way we do... Click Here
Texas Tom said on 13/Feb/19
That definitely isn't Bockwinkel in the pic with Studd and Andre.
rawdshaq said on 12/Feb/19
I think Giant Baba was a legit 6'10".
Sotiris Gravas said on 12/Feb/19
I forgot to mention that I think the guy in the middle of Studd and tiptoeing Andre was Nick Bockwinkel (billed 5'10").


@Canson :)


@62B Nice pic of Dusty and Mascaras. Here's another one I found, though, not good for gauging heights... Click Here

Dusty wearing his own mask as Uvalde Slim... Click Here

Here's a pic I've never seen before of Dusty (far left) and Giant Baba (1982):
Click Here
Pdoggy said on 11/Feb/19
Just a reminder just because you find a picture of two people does not mean you need to post it this is not Facebook. Post pics of quality not quantity
Texas Tom said on 11/Feb/19
I've usually been in the Andre 6-11 camp, but have to admit in the latest pic with 6-6 and 1/2-ish BJS, he seems to be struggling with 6-10, and this is Andre in his prime, standing straight and even on his toes a bit. The only way I can see to upgrade Andre is to upgrade Studd too, who did not look a full 6-7 next to Fralic.
Canson said on 10/Feb/19
@Aaronius: JT and Sotiris are nothing alike with their estimates so I don’t believe that they’re the same person. JT while fair has also said that Barkley And Jordan are 6’6. Sotiris says that both are 6’4-6’5 which they are. Even though Sotiris has low estimates at times as well. Nobody is perfect here. But it’s not right to accuse JT of being Sotiris
62B said on 9/Feb/19
@ Soritis here is a good example of why pictures are not always what they seem. In your picture of Andre, Dusty and Milmascaras, Mil and Dusty look about the same height. And it looks like for all intent and purposes a good picture to judge height. Here at the same event and probably time Click Here Dusty looks several inches taller than Mil, and also looks to be a good picture to judge height.
Canson said on 8/Feb/19
@aaronius: it’s no different than Shawne Merriman’s 6’4 3/8 measurement. His Pro Day was 6’2 3/8. That’s also supposed to be barefoot yet he’s over a full inch shorter than 6’4 3/8 measured Shilique Calhoun and shorter than other guys who are 6’3 and 6’4”. If you see the video with Martellus Bennett 6’6 1/8 that’s near a 4” difference. Not to mention that the combine is held early morning. Truth is NFL can make mistakes just as anyone else could and who is to say someone doesn’t pad their socks if they aren’t asked to remove them
Canson said on 8/Feb/19
@aaronius: it’s no different than Shawne Merriman’s 6’4 3/8 measurement. His Pro Day was 6’2 3/8. That’s also supposed to be barefoot yet he’s over a full inch shorter than 6’4 3/8 measured Shilique Calhoun. If you see the video with Martellus Bennett 6’6 1/8 that’s near a 4” difference. Not to mention that the combine is held early morning. Truth is NFL can make mistakes just as anyone else could and who is to say someone doesn’t pad their socks if they aren’t asked to remove them
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Feb/19
Nice pic of Andre on his tippy toes w/ Big John Studd... Click Here





Dusty Rhodes and Gorilla Monsoon... Click Here
Footwear... Click Here

Dusty and Flair w/ Giant Baba... Click Here
Flair and Blackjack Mulligan... Click Here

Dusty and Superstar Billy Graham... Click Here





Dusty and Andre (w/ Mil Mascaras) for comparison... Click Here

Giant Baba w/ Mil Mascaras (and Dory Funk Jr.)... Click Here



Hope this meets aaronius' stringent approval, LOL. Heaven forbid they're not to his liking...
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Feb/19
Here are some nice pics Vegas has posted in the past, as well as others I'm including...



1) An autograph seeker and 6'5" Tarik Glenn... Click Here



2) Same guy and 6'6" (not 6'6.5") Viscera... Click Here

a) Viscera and Kane (footwear?)... Click Here
b) Viscera and maybe 6'1" Rikishi (current height 6'0")... Click Here



3) Same guy and John "Earthquake" Tenta... Click Here

a) Tenta and Giant Baba... Click Here
b) Baba and 6'1.5" Inoki... Click Here
c) Baba and Hogan... Click Here
d) Baba and Andre... Click Here
e) Baba listed as 6'6" as babaseball player... Click Here




4) Same guy and The Rock... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Feb/19
@aaronious I love your erroneous claims, aaronious... NFL draft measurements are morning heights, mind you... and 6'2.5" peak height is what Rob the editor has him at. He'll be happy to know that you think he, too, is a downgrader. Before he died, Vader was shorter than 6'2.5", as is clearly visible when he was dwarfed by 6'3.5" Snoop Dogg. (To be fair, JT and I have never been seen together in the same room, so, you never know...)
aaronius said on 7/Feb/19
how many people here think Sotiris is actually JT in diguise, using crappy angles in less than adequate pictures, and downgrading everyone, as if everyone in the world, all all liars about their height
aaronius said on 7/Feb/19
i love how everyone wants to downgrade Leon White to 6'2.5" for his peak height, which he may very well have been before he died, just so they can downgrade Hogan.

his draft measurements for the los angeles rams put him at 6'4 1/4" in 1978, thats legit. NFL draft measurements are ALWAYS barefoot
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Feb/19
Ozzy Perhaps 6'2" is too low for Hogan. 6'2.5" seems fair.


Here's Hogan w/ 6'4" Dusty Wathan (2018)... Click Here

Dusty Wathan and 6'3" Jason Kelce (2018)... Click Here

Hogan and 75-year-old 6'4 peak height Charlie Manuel (2018)... Click Here


Hogan and 6'3" Titus (billed 6'6") (2015)... Click Here
Boss said on 7/Feb/19
Whether you believe Andre was 6'11" or 7'1". He was a true giant. They don't come any bigger than Andre.

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NCL said on 7/Feb/19
Regardless of whatever their heights were in these pics, I'd say there's a 4" difference here Click Here and a 5" difference here Click Here

What are all your thoughts?
Ozzy said on 6/Feb/19
@Sotiris Gravas .. yeah mate. I think today Hulk is around 6'2.5"(my guestimate) Prob 6'3 in boots. In his prime I thought a long time ago he was max 6'5". I used to have a hard time believing he was 6'6" let alone 6'8" lol... He always looked 2" shorter than Sid Eudy & Taker.... I seen an article about 15 years ago that said Andre was actually measured at 6'10", when you compare Hulk if 6'5 & chuck Wepner 6'5"? ... it seems more likely ...
Pdoggy said on 6/Feb/19
@Tree
Quality pic from wm3
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Feb/19
@Kritiker The footwear on 100% 6'2" IRS is clearly visible, he's not in Big Show heels. Do Hillbilly and Hogan look more than 6'4.5", maybe 6'5" next to him...? No, they don't, regardless of Windham, who I know was 6'4", despite ppl here thinking he was taller. Hogan was never 6'6".

As for Hogan being over 6'3" today, the short answer is no... Click Here I post pics like this and ppl still want to say he's 6'3" or over; come on, guys, seriously...


@Pdoggy Let me get this straight... if ppl post pics you like, all is well w/ the world. If they don't... they're trolls. Got it. FYI: the pics I post are not doctored in any way, shape, or form. The "lonely" comment did make me laugh, though. I can't decide whether you're a clown or a comedian.


@RP Agreed on 6'5" for Coppock.
tree said on 5/Feb/19
@Sortis U want a fair pic with Hogan AND andre? Click Here
Higan may have shrunk to 6ft4.5 in by 1944 but he was closer to 6ft6 peak in WSM3
A 6ft6 Hogan makes a 6ft11 Andre by WSM3.
Kritiker said on 5/Feb/19
@Sotiris Gravas I get your point. But most of your pics are misleading.

For example the pic of Hogan, Hillbilly, IRS and Windham:
- All of them are looking down with Hogan and Hillbilly even leaning on the interviwer.
- Nobody said Windham was a short man. At least 6´4" back then. But as you can see he is wearing cowboy ring boots with high heels.

The you compare 70 year old versions (Slaughter) to men in their prime. That just does not work. My father was measured at 6´3.5" for military and was down to 6´1.5" in his mid 50´s. Of course you loose height with age. And most wrestlers who normally weigh more than average people, compete in a physical sport and get injured can loose more than we might think.

I estimate Hogan at a little over 6´3" nowadays and 6´5.5" in the 1980´s. In the HBO documentary photos about Andre he has Triple H by a good 2 inches at least.
Pdoggy said on 4/Feb/19
@Boss
You got to know that there are trolls on here downgrading by a couple inches year after year we see them come and go and they never last all they do is come up with lower Heights by a couple inches they downgrade everybody just to Spur people into conversation or debate with no real factual evidence. Maybe they are lonely, not sure. Your post on the other hand are pics that actually can be used in some fashion to determine a closer actual height for these celebrities
Sotiris Gravas said on 4/Feb/19
@Boss Hogan and 6'2.5 Vader (1994)... Click Here

6'3.5" Snoop Dogg and Vader... Click Here

6'6.5" Sid Eudy and Vader... Click Here , Click Here
Sid and maybe 6'3" Robert Fuller... Click Here


Sid and Hogan... Click Here , Click Here





6'2.5" Vader and Andre... Click Here
Hogan and Andre... Click Here , Click Here
RP said on 4/Feb/19
@ Sotiris ...a strong 6’5” barefoot...a weak 6’6” in dress shoes & a strong 6’6” in sneakers for a Peak Chet Coppock...IMO, from sizing him up with WWF, NBA & NFL players from that era.
rawdshaq said on 4/Feb/19
Lets be be honest, doesn't that claim that he was measured 6'9 3/4" seem legit? I have Andre at 6' 10 1/2" - 6' 11" right now, but after photos the 6'9 3/4" claim does seem legit.
Boss said on 3/Feb/19
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Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Feb/19
@Gretz Sorry, I goofed and forgot to include the Hogan/Covert/Otis/Coppock pic. Here it is now:
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@Boss Coppock is closer to the camera. They do look close in height. In this e-mail he says that Jordan was only "a little shorter"... Click Here The problem is despite being listed as 6'6", Jordan was never more than 6'4.5".

This is Coppock nowadays next to 6'5" peak height Reggie Theus... Click Here

Here's Theus nowadays next to now 6'4" Rick Barry... they're now both 6'4", putting Coppock at around 6'2" now... Click Here

Here he is next to Road Warrior Animal, who's only 6'0" now... Click Here So, Coppock is now 6'2". Do I think he was really 6'6" back then and that he lost 4 WHOLE INCHES...? No. He was never more than 6'5".

So, just a reminder: a 70-year-old Coppock who used to be 6'5" is now around 6'2".

Hogan is now 65 years old. And I do think Hogan is closer to 6'2" than he is 6'3".
Boss said on 3/Feb/19
Hulk was same height as 6'5 Tiny Lister in platform shoes. He was taller than many 6'5 range guys here.

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Boss said on 3/Feb/19
Chett Coppock was 6'6 and he looks every bit of it with Michael Jordan and plenty of other people of known height. I don't know how anyone could say Jordan was taller than Coppock in that pic.
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Feb/19
@Gretz I'll begin w/ this Mark Henry pic... Click Here

Then this... Sgt. Slaughter/Mick Foley/Booby Roode pic... Click Here

Next, this Brian Knobbs/Norman Smiley pic... Click Here

And I'll throw in this Jimmy Hart pic for good measure... Click Here




Now that that's out of the way, I'll address your thoughts on Hogan. Here's a great pic of 6'2" IRS, along w/ 6'4" Barry Windham (His dad, Blackjack Mulligan, was 6'5). You'll notice Hillbilly Jim and Hogan in back. I really don't think both men tower over IRS or Windham:
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I honestly don't think Hogan was over 6'4.5". Maybe I'm wrong and he was 6'5" and Hillbilly was 6'4.5"...

Here's Hogan next to 6'4" Jimbo Covert and 6'2" Otis Wilson. That other guy is Chet Coppock who claims 6'6". Problem is, he was around the same height as 6'4.5" Michael Jordan:
Click Here Jordan actually seems taller IMHO.

Hogan and Coppock were around the same height in this pic, but we don't know if he was in his cowboy boots... Click Here

For me, 6'5" for Hogan would be the absolute max.

One more pic of Hogan w/ Andre... and Piper (1987)... Click Here
184guy2 said on 2/Feb/19
@Rob

Which is the minimum to Andre's head lenght , in your opinion ???
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Feb/19
6'2.5" Ali & 6'6" Clint Walker (1967)... Click Here ,
The other dude is fellow Greek Telly Savalas, maybe 5'10.5". Who here used to watch Kojak? He was into lollipops long before LL Cool J.

One more of Ali and Walker... Click Here




Ali and 6'7" Ernie Ladd... Click Here





Ali and 6'1.5" Inoki... Click Here , Click Here


Andre and Inoki... Click Here
Gretz said on 1/Feb/19
Gravis and the rest of you consider the fact that Hulk Hogan always would like an inch taller than Hillbilly Jim,back in the day.Now Jim is pretty well verified at 6'5"-6'5.5",this tells me Hogan probably topped out at 6'6".And even in 1984 when he won the belt,Andre came backstage and poured Champagne on Hogan`s head and Andre clearly had 6 inches on him and these are better camera angles than from the ring.So to me Andre was very close to if not 7 foot tall even in 1984,there are reports of back stage people saying Andre was 6'10.75 at WW3(some guy would measure Andre when he went through a certain door where he estimated his height before).and this is all speculation,but even Hogan claimed Andre was weighed on a scale at the air port at 680 although I dobt it.
Boss said on 31/Jan/19
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Boss said on 31/Jan/19
Here are lots of good Andre photos. Andre's head was 13" range which is also shown here in these photos. If someone came up to a tall persons chin say a basketball player and that same person came up to Andre's chin then Andre would be at least 2 to 3 inches taller than the tall person. So the person could come up to the top of Andre's lip or bottom of his nose and come up to the tall man's chin and they would still be same height because of Andre's enormous head size. Also, Andre rarely displayed good posture.

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Phenom89 said on 31/Jan/19
@kritiker

Agree, above all i agree that many of the 6'7 billed guys never saw really that height.
But about the shoes i think kane and big show are on an other level compare to Undertaker, i dont remember super big boots for him.
Kritiker said on 30/Jan/19
With all due respect: Some of the pics used here for comparing are relatively useless. Here is why:

- In many photos you can´t see their feet. Stance, footwear, ground, angle etc. will change the whole situation. See the infamous Wepner/Andre staredown. First, Andre is looking way down on. Second, there are other pics from this encounter where you can see Andre is in wrestling boots, while Wepner wears cowboy boots. Mystery solved.

- Some are really out of proportion. JT has done that on occasion, especially with Andre. It is just impossible for Andre to have the same head, let alone frame size as others. The man had acromegaly and weighed way over 400 pounds for most of his career. Using Mean Gene as a key figure can be misleading, too.

-Footwear in general: I know Andre used to wear cowboy boots in the 1970´s. But not so in the ring. In fact Andre´s boots were relatively flat. Whereas Big Show for example wore pretty thick boots, especially in his WCW days. Let alone guys like Kane or Undertaker.

My thesis may be controversial, but I think both Andre and Big Show at one point in their respective careers peaked at around 6´11". Big Show used thick boots to look over 7 feet, Andre had his afro. Later both lost some height. Andre, due to surgery, weight and untreated acromegaly may have lost a bit more than Show, but I don´t think he got lower than 6´9.5"

I honestly think most wrestlers billed over 6´7" did not even reach that number.
NattyK said on 28/Jan/19
I don't think the dude could stand up straight after age 25. Also there is a really indepth review on Paul Wight actually being taller, with photo evidence.
tree said on 26/Jan/19
Sortis u used to think tenta was 6ft3 when u compared him to mean gene but when i told u his not under 6ft5 u dodnt beleave,well better admitting later then never,looks 6ft5.5 with sting
Pdoggy said on 23/Jan/19
Hogan had about a half inch on Tenta. Who was just under 6'6.
HarveyFinkelmatter said on 23/Jan/19
Great stuff as always Sotiris Gravas. Thanks .
Undertaker Frank said on 22/Jan/19
In some Pictures Tenta looks 1 to 2 inches taller than Ottman I Believe Tenta is probably 6ft 5 @ best and he also can be 6ft 4ish it Ottman is a Legit 6ft 3
Pdoggy said on 22/Jan/19
: Sotiris tries. I’ll give him that but a lot of the pics he’s posted have not been very good for determining height

Nicer not so grinch like. I forgot the world we live in everyone is so sensitive
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Jan/19
@HarveyFinkelmatter Good question dude. Agreed, no way Prowse was as tall as 6'7". Maybe he was a Hulk Hogan 6'4.5" who also likes to lie about his height, LOL... He doesn't look that tall next to a supposedly 6'2" Irvin Kershner... Click Here


Here he is (footwear advantage) next to 5'7" Mark Hammil... Click Here

W/ 5'11" Peter Cushing... Click Here

Cushing and 6'4.5" Christopher Lee... Click Here


5'7" Hammil and 5'11" Cushing... Click Here

Irvin Kershner and 6'2" Sean Connery/footwear advantage (1965)... Click Here


Kershner and Peter Mayhew... Click Here

Prowse (might be on tiptoes) and Mayhew... Click Here

Prowse looking short here w/ Mayhew... Click Here


It's funny how even a tall guy like Mayhew would lie about his height, telling ppl he was 7'3" when he was more like 7 feet tall (currently 6'10").
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Jan/19
@Pdoggy Dude, I recently posted pics of Vince McMahon and Sting, whose heights are not really disputed, against heights that are (guys like Giant Baba and Earthquake), a far cry from your supposed "nothing." It's called comparative analysis. Also, you said the way I post "random" pics proves nothing. Please enlighten me, all-knowing sage, how does one decide which pics are supposedly random and which aren't...? As usual, your comments are the height of absurdity (no pun intended, I think). Happy 2019, grinch.
Boss said on 21/Jan/19
Earthquake John Tenta was legitimately measured for sumo wrestling at 6'5.75". He clearly has several inches on 6'3" Typhoon. Scroll down page and there are lots of examples.


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Canson said on 21/Jan/19
@Pdoggy: Sotiris tries. I’ll give him that but a lot of the pics he’s posted have not been very good for determining height
Pdoggy said on 19/Jan/19
Sotiris as usual all you do is post pics that do nothing in proving height. Just posting random pics does nothing.
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Jan/19
@Pdoggy Giant Baba and 6'1" peak height Vince... Click Here

John Tenta (Earthquake) and Baba... Click Here
Earthquake and 6'2" Sting... Click Here
Baba and Hogan... Click Here


Fred Ottman (Typhoon) was and still is 6'3", seen here w/ Earthquake... Click Here



@HarveyFinkelmatter Thanks, dude. Much obliged, kind sir.
HarveyFinkelmatter said on 18/Jan/19
SotirisGravas - Do you want to take a stab at Dave Prowse? Definitely not 6'7. Thanks.
Pdoggy said on 15/Jan/19
Henry said on 13/Jan/19
Earthquake was measured at a PROVEN 6'5.95" Barefoot so it just proves that everyone on here reduces people's heights by 1.5 to 2 inches.

Agreed.
HarveyFinkelmatter said on 15/Jan/19
Thanks Gravas. You always post great pictures.
Sotiris Gravas said on 14/Jan/19
@Undertaker Frank I agree w/ you about Ladd being 6'7" flat, no way 6'9"... Here's Ladd w/ another Ernie, billed 5'7" Ernie Roth... Click Here

5'5" Takahashi and Ladd... Click Here
Takahashi and Hogan... Click Here , Click Here




@Danimal 5'7" Mad Dog Vachon puts Verne Gagne (tiptoes) at around 5'9"... Click Here

Nice pic of Verne (thin soles) and Andre (cowboy boots/BIG heels) and Arnold Skaaland 1974: Click Here At 6'7", a 5'9" person reaches my chin level.
dewie 5ft9 175cm said on 14/Jan/19
Andre the giant at age 17 was 6ft10 140 pounds age 20 7ft0.25 214cm 475 pounds.
miko said on 14/Jan/19
The same Danimal that is obsessed with Hogan losing 5 inches and Will Smith being 6 foot tall? Haha.
Undertaker Frank said on 13/Jan/19
I believe Ernie Ladd was about 6ft 7 i dont believe he was 6ft 9
Undertaker Frank said on 13/Jan/19
I believe Ernie Ladd was about 6ft 7 i dont believe he was 6ft 9
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 13/Jan/19
JT said on 8/Jan/19
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rawdshaq said on 5/Jan/19
….Peak: 7' 1 1/2"
At death: 6' 10"
(fyi Im just going to the middle and putting 7 feet as my guess)

You may want to reconsider Andre’s height as well Click Here

Still at it, eh JT? You've been on a crusade for over 14 years now. Are you going to be obsessed with Andre's 6'10" peak height until you die? It's really sad how you just can't break free, year in and year out. It never ends, does it?
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 13/Jan/19
Andre with 5'7" (billed 5'9") Maurice "Mad Dog" Vachon in the mid-late 1980's: Click Here
oRiOn said on 11/Jan/19
Mr. McSmack said on 10/Jan/19
If you look at André early in his prime(between 1975-1981), I believe he was almost 7’3”, he stood taller than a lot of big guys like blackjack Mulligan, and Ernie Ladd, who was 6’11”. But because of his acromegaly, it compressed his spine so bad, and by the time WrestleMania 3, he was about 7’1/2”. They exaggerated his height definitely, but not by much. And also in WrestleMania 3, he was listed as 520lbs. When in reality he was about 605lbs. Either way he was one of a kind and still one of my favorite wrestlers ever.

LOL. Ernie Ladd wasn't 6'11. There is a video on YT, where Ernie admits to being 6'9. Andre was about 3-4" taller than him, so that would put Andre around 7'0...maybe 7'0.5 at his peak.
Sotiris Gravas said on 11/Jan/19
@HarveyFinkelmatter I used to think Andre wasn't "very" tall when looking at pics of him next to a 6'5" guy like Chuck Wepner. Maybe he was 6'11" when he was young and thin... Before he died, maybe as low as 6'9.5". To be honest, I'm still not sure... (I once accidentally substituted a Harvey Wallbanger w/ fecal matter in cake recipe; my dinner guests were not amused.)


Here's Andre next to cinematographer Bryan Greenberg (on the right) from the late 70s from the wrestling "documentary" "I Like to Hurt People" (released 1985)... Click Here

Greenberg w/ Bobo Brazil (billed 6'6")... Click Here

5'9" Pedro Morales (billed 5'10") w/ Brazil... Click Here

FYI, at 6'7", the top of a 5'9" guy's head reaches my chin level.
miller said on 11/Jan/19
no more than 6.11 at peak and barely 6.10 at wm 3
edwards said on 10/Jan/19
the guy is legit 7 footer,dont know whether he was strong or weak 7 footer
Mr. McSmack said on 10/Jan/19
If you look at André early in his prime(between 1975-1981), I believe he was almost 7’3”, he stood taller than a lot of big guys like blackjack Mulligan, and Ernie Ladd, who was 6’11”. But because of his acromegaly, it compressed his spine so bad, and by the time WrestleMania 3, he was about 7’1/2”. They exaggerated his height definitely, but not by much. And also in WrestleMania 3, he was listed as 520lbs. When in reality he was about 605lbs. Either way he was one of a kind and still one of my favorite wrestlers ever.
Halb said on 9/Jan/19
Great pic of Studd and André. Look fairly close there. And is André tiptoeing on his rear foot?
HarveyFinkelmatter said on 9/Jan/19
So how tall does Sotiris Graves think Andre really is? You all have a great site. Thanks.
Canson said on 8/Jan/19
@184guy: lol. Maybe the casket
JT said on 8/Jan/19
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rawdshaq said on 5/Jan/19
….Peak: 7' 1 1/2"
At death: 6' 10"
(fyi Im just going to the middle and putting 7 feet as my guess)

You may want to reconsider Andre’s height as well Click Here
Monkey knees said on 7/Jan/19
WWF bumped 4/5 inches on his height in the 80s. Barely touched 7ft peak. Late 80s heyday was 6ft 20in tops. Weight gain/health problems buckled his body, sadly.
184guy2 said on 6/Jan/19
@rawdshaq

HAHAHA Peak and Current ? For who ? His bones and skeleton ?
rawdshaq said on 5/Jan/19
Another wrestler who was a lot shorter than I thought. Andre the Giant was measured at 6' 9 3/4" I read. And based off photo evidence that seems realistic. You can just round up and say he is 6' 10". I love Andre the Giant, not a hater at all. He was still clearly the strongest wrestler and most feared in the locker room. He was easily over 500 pounds, too. Surprised he doesn't have a peak and current height.

Peak: 7' 1 1/2"

At death: 6' 10"

(fyi Im just going to the middle and putting 7 feet as my guess)
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Jan/19
Maybe Bigelow was as low as 6'1", seen here again w/ 6'2.25" Lawrence Taylor:
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I'm guessing there was some tiptoe action here, LOL... Click Here


Look at how short DiBiase looks here w/ Bigelow, despite being in he foreground:
Click Here One of many pics where DiBiase does NOT look tall.
Dustin M Williams said on 5/Jan/19
Old 1992 Andre with Bam Bam looks taller than a peak Nash to me.
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Jan/19
6'1.5" Bigelow and Nash... Click Here , Click Here


Bigelow and Andre... Click Here


Bigelow and 6'2.25" Lawrence Taylor... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jan/19
Andre and Rene Goulet (billed 6'0") in 1981... Click Here

Goulet and Chris Taylor (supposedly 6'5") in 1973... Click Here


Andre and Iron Sheik (billed 6'0")... Click Here
5'5" Takahashi and Sheik... Click Here


Just for fun, Andre and Flair, similar pose... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jan/19
Andre and Karl Gotch (billed as 6'0.5" as well as 6'2"), seen here in flip-flops:
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In the ring... Click Here

In dress shoes... Click Here


Gotch and Giant Baba... Click Here

Gotch and Inoki in the ring... Click Here
Gotch, Inoki and Lou Thesz (billed 6'2") in dress shoes... Click Here
Gotch, Inoki, and Billy Robinson (billed 5'11") in dress shoes... Click Here
62B said on 30/Dec/18
184guy2 said on 28/Dec/18
@Sotiris
Here we can clearly see theirs feets and Andre looks taller than in the first pic
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BTW:
Rick Rude 6'3-6'3.25
King Kong Bundy 6'4
One Man Gang 6'6ish
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Great footage. I would have been about the same height as Rude when I saw Andre in 1988, and he stacks up pretty much how I thought I did. Eyes around Andres collar bone area and top of head around the bottom of Andre's mouth
Sotiris Gravas said on 30/Dec/18
@184guy2 Here's King Kong Bundy next to 6'1" peak height "Al Bundy":
Click Here Not so sure the King Kong Bundy was really 6'4".

Here's a recent pic of now 6'0" Ed O'Neill (Al Bundy) next to Rick Barry, who's now 6'4":
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Rick Barry and 6'4.5" Charles Barkley (2015)... Click Here
62B said on 28/Dec/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/Dec/18
Andre w/ Bundy and One Man Gang promo pic... Click Here

Now, same group shot, but notice how Andre looks WAY(!!!) taller, most likely standing on a "Hogan Rocky III box"... Click Here

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I agree, probably standing on something in the second picture, He was the furthest away from the camera in both pictures though so not really the greatest for height comparisons. Looking at his hair though (as this was the time frame I saw him) I'm not sure its a full inch thick from the top of his scalp like I was thinking. Thick for sure though.
Canson said on 28/Dec/18
@62B: I certainly agree and I feel that those estimates are superb! I could buy a near 7’ Andre in his early 20s and 6’10-11 later in life
184guy2 said on 28/Dec/18
@Sotiris
Here we can clearly see theirs feets and Andre looks taller than in the first pic
Click Here
BTW:
Rick Rude 6'3-6'3.25
King Kong Bundy 6'4
One Man Gang 6'6ish
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/Dec/18
Andre w/ Bundy and One Man Gang promo pic... Click Here

Now, same group shot, but notice how Andre looks WAY(!!!) taller, most likely standing on a "Hogan Rocky III box"... Click Here
62B said on 27/Dec/18
@Canson. I am guessing The top of Andre's head coming up to the bottom of Smits eyes, because I felt the top of Andre's hair would have been about brow level to Smits
62B said on 26/Dec/18
Canson said on 25/Dec/18
@62B: I’d say 7’3” barefoot
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That's what I have mainly been basing my guess of Andre's height on. That and the fact that he was taller than a guy I knew at the same time who was 6'9". Smits was not quite a half head taller than a 1988 Andre. His head looked to be average on a very tall lanky body giving him the appearance of a pin head. I'd Guess Smits head no longer than 9.5" with Andre coming up just under eye level so probably about 4"shorter giving me my guess of 6'11" for Andre in 1988. I have no problem believing a 6'11" morning Andre dropped closer to 6'10" in the evening and probably being 6'10.5" in the afternoon. A younger peak Andre was probably at least a 1/2" taller and probably held his height longer throughout the day. I don't think its unreasonable to believe a peak Andre could have been 7' out of bed and held it for an hour or so, probably dropping to 6'11" evening and being somewhere in between through out the day. So that is how my brain is working. Let me know if you think I'm off somewhere, because I certainly could be. Lol
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 26/Dec/18
rawdshaq said on 23/Dec/18
I watched the movie on Andre on HBO and they said he was 7-4. I think he got back surgery and went down to 7 feet tall.

You need to rewatch it, because they never said he was 7'4". They said he was 214cm, which is 7'0.25", which was his tallest height BEFORE he started to shrink, both due to posture, ankle injury, back surgery and knee surgery.
RP said on 25/Dec/18
Meltzer has also claimed 6’11.5” for Andre. He’s actually claimed 6’11.5” for Andre just about as many times he’s claimed 6’9.75”...so, which is it Dave? 6’11.5” or 6’9.75”??? Maybe Dave thinks a peak André was 6’11.5” & the broken down late 1980’s to early 1990’s André was 6’9.75” ??? Which is pretty accurate. Give or take a 1/2” inch.
Kunoichi said on 25/Dec/18
IMO,Dave Meltzer does not even know whether this match was held in Japan or in Montreal.

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Canson said on 25/Dec/18
@62B: I’d say 7’3” barefoot
62B said on 25/Dec/18
@Vegas. First I have heard of that
Vegas' said on 24/Dec/18
62B, Meltzer met Andre. He he wrote about the time he brought his legit 6'8 basketballer friend along to size Andre up with him.
62B said on 24/Dec/18
@Soritis. What height would you give a peak Rik Smits? I stood just as close to him as I did Andre.
Chaz Howell said on 24/Dec/18
JT said on 18/Dec/18
Click Here Not sure who the other guy is but he’ll be around 6’2”.
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Click Here I assume Goliath is a reference to Giant Haystacks
Click Here (she’s not 5’9”….)


yes that is Haystacks,he was billed as The 7' 35st Mighty Goliath,down under.that should tell you something about Andre's real height,that they had to up Haystacks billed height,
Sotiris Gravas said on 24/Dec/18
I posted some new Andre pics w/ Pat Patterson on Kevin Nash's page. Go check it out.
Sotiris Gravas said on 23/Dec/18
@62B a short Arnie (not 6'2") makes sense when looking at him w/ a 5'9" Bruno Sammartino:
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Here's a fairly recent one of Arnie, Bruno and a 6'0.5" Trump... Click Here

Look at him w/ a 5'9.5" Sarah Douglas... Click Here


Here he was w/ 6'2" peak height George H.W. Bush (RIP)... Click Here ,
Click Here Bush was maybe 6'1" in those pics w/ Arnie, back in 1988.. That puts Arnold at around 5'11", a man who might wear lifts nowadays. I used to think he was no more than 6'0".
Sotiris Gravas said on 23/Dec/18
@Takerfan Sorry if I goofed and confused one guy for the other, but are you sure that's Ted Whitten...?
JT had posted this pic recently, and it says Larry O'Day, not Whitten:
Click Here There's no indication of anyone on their tippy toes...

It does make more sense that O'Day is taller than 6'0"...
RM2 said on 23/Dec/18
Andre is a tough person to peg as far as height goes. He had such unusual proportions, plus a wide, often bent-knee stance. I don't buy anything under 6'10", though. I'm 6'1" and I believe it would take more for me to be eye-to-eye with him than stepping up on the first step of an average staircase.
rawdshaq said on 23/Dec/18
I watched the movie on Andre on HBO and they said he was 7-4. I think he got back surgery and went down to 7 feet tall.
RoelC said on 23/Dec/18
62B said on 21/Dec/18
@Gretz Click Here I know Arnolds height was a hot topic during the Conan movies. My chiropractor met Arnold and got a picture with him in the early 2000's. Arnold had obvious footwear advantage and poofy hair but was still noticeably shorter than my chiropractor who was just shy of 6'2". I also have a 6'2" high school friend that met him and said he thought Arnold was really short.
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This website has several measurements from Arnold in the 60's. They were posted in bodybuilding magazine IronMan way back in July 1967. It looks like he was measured at 6'1 at age 17 and still measured at that height at age 19.

6'1" sounds a believable height for a peak Arnold. The purpose of the pics of Arnold, Wilt & Andre was to show how small Arnold was compared to those two giants. They might've used some trickery to make Arnold look smaller than he really is.
RoelC said on 23/Dec/18
Takerfan said on 22/Dec/18
Sotiris, I don’t know where you are from and not sure where you get your heights from but the guy on the left with that Ron Miller pic is Ted Whitten an AFL footballer.
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The guy on the left is Larry O'Day not Ted Whitten. Him and Ron Miller were an Australian tag-team with the very original name called "The Australians".
Several websites have Ron Miller listed at 5'11" or 6'. Not sure what the sources for those listings are. I haven't seen much of Australian wrestling, so I don't know what Miller was billed at while being a pro-wrestler.
Takerfan said on 22/Dec/18
Also in that pic, Ted is on his Tippy toes.. I think your trying to degrade Andre
Takerfan said on 22/Dec/18
Sotiris, I don’t know where you are from and not sure where you get your heights from but the guy on the left with that Ron Miller pic is Ted Whitten an AFL footballer. I’ve met him and I’m 6ft on the dot, he was a tad taller than me. So I’m not sure where you got Ron Miller at 6ft 🤔 just to let you know that in 1984 I met Andre in a bar in Melbourne Australia.. Trust me he would’ve been very close to 7tf if not a tad above. Not only was he tall but massive all round. I’ve seen 7ft Basketballers and they looked around that height guys like Andrew Bogut I’ve met so on. There’s no way Andre was under 6’11 around that time..
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Dec/18
Andre and 6'0" Ron Miller JT pic enlarged... Click Here

Andre and then 6'2" Trump... Click Here

W/ 6'2" Beefcake (1991)... Click Here



Stu Hart (billed 5'11") and The Mongolian Stomper (billed 6'2")... Click Here
Stu Hart and Andre (big pic, both in cowboy boots)... Click Here
Stu and 5'10" Bobby Hull w/ Andre (big pic)... Click Here
One more time for comparison , Mongolian Stomper and Andre... Click Here
62B said on 21/Dec/18
@Gretz Click Here I know Arnolds height was a hot topic during the Conan movies. My chiropractor met Arnold and got a picture with him in the early 2000's. Arnold had obvious footwear advantage and poofy hair but was still noticeably shorter than my chiropractor who was just shy of 6'2". I also have a 6'2" high school friend that met him and said he thought Arnold was really short.
62B said on 21/Dec/18
RP said on 20/Dec/18
@ 62B in the Duggan vs Andre staredown pic.
6’11” vs 6’2.5” IMO. Is that pic from 1988? I think that’s when Andre & Duggan had a little mini feud ?
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I believe that was from 1988. I'd say your guesses are pretty good for both, but would most likely be morning heights. I figure Duggan probably didn't drop below 6'2 1/4" back then as he was 34. Andre's body was already breaking down in 1988 even though I think he was only 42 and had probably started to loose height. I thought Andre was more 6'11" than 6'10" when I saw him, but it was mid morning. He probably wasn't over 6'10.5" by the time he got into the ring with Duggan that night.
Pdoggy said on 21/Dec/18
Tall thin 7 Foot people usually stand straighter than somebody who 7 ft tall and over 300 pounds Andre was 200 plus pounds heavier than that so when you're that big you tend to Lumber not stand perfectly straight. Thin pencil neck geeks don't get that.

@Boss
You are correct in saying we need not go with opinion or speculation or guessing we need to go with fact. Guessing from pics is an awful way to gauge people's Heights you don't know if the ground is level or the thickness of the shoes are none of it is certain and it is all speculation.
62B said on 20/Dec/18
michael loughrie said on 19/Dec/18
If you watched the documentary on him this year, they stated he was actually measured at 6' 9" 3/4, and weighed 477 pounds
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That's a Dave Meltzer claim. He claims he talked to a French athletic committee that has no real name, no telephone number, no name of the person he "talked" to verify said claim. What it really is, is a Dave Melter opinion. If a peak Andre was 6'9 3/4" then so was a peak Paul Wight. Terry Todd's answer to a direct question from JT was that Andre was 7' or a bit over when younger and lost a peg or two when older. He also went on to say Andre's hands and feet were bigger and longer than Paul's. So who do you believe? A guy like Meltzer who thinks its his calling to dispel all kayfabe and get noticed, or a guy like Todd, who in the past stayed in kayfabe during the 70's or 80's sports illustrated article, but was fairly direct in his answer to JT? Personally. For myself, I know a late 80's Andre was between 6'10" and 6'11". I'm a tall guy (6'3"at the time) that stood right next to Andre and was able to size him up. I'm pretty sure unlike Todd, that Meltzer never met Andre
Gretz said on 20/Dec/18
Look I want to bring up the the Andre,Arnold,Wilt photos up,apparently after seeing 6 or 7 of them now something is wrong(in some pics when Andre brings up his huge head they look nearly the same height,I know Andre has a foot ware advantage but lets not forget Wilts big wig).Yet in those pics they look up to 15.5-16 inches taller than a 6'1.5" inch Arnold this is not possible.The only way I can reconcile this is Arnold was never more than 5'11",the heights just don`t add up it`s the only way these pics work.i mean I think Andre was only 6'11.5" here,anyone have any thoughts on this?
RP said on 20/Dec/18
@ 62B in the Duggan vs Andre staredown pic.
6’11” vs 6’2.5” IMO. Is that pic from 1988? I think that’s when Andre & Duggan had a little mini feud ?
michael loughrie said on 19/Dec/18
If you watched the documentary on him this year, they stated he was actually measured at 6' 9" 3/4, and weighed 477 pounds.
62B said on 18/Dec/18
Yep, because that's where 6'2"+ Jim Duggan came up to Andre Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Dec/18
@JT Great pic of Andre and Studd together. Too bad about Fralic...


@Gretz Thanks for the kind words, dude. Much obliged. I'm not really sure about Dutch. Don't think he was ever more than 6'2". Here he is again w/ a barefoot Snuka... Click Here

Compare that w/ 5'10" Snuka and Bruiser Brody... Click Here , Click Here

Andre and the Mongolian Stomper (billed as 6'2")... Click Here
Abdullah the Butcher and Mongolian Stomper... Click Here
Bruiser Brody and Butcher... Click Here

Andre and barefoot Butcher... Click Here

Snuka and Ox Baker (billed 6'5")... Click Here
Ox Baker and Studd... Click Here

Snuka (barefoot) and Paul Orndorff... Click Here
Canson said on 18/Dec/18
Maybe 7’1”-7’1.5 in shoes if he measures right out of bed at his absolute peak.
Boss said on 18/Dec/18
RP said on 17/Dec/18
@ Boss, looks like the measurements were taking with his shoes on? Your theory would suggest about a 7’2” Andre with shoes on? IMO, his peak height with dress shoes on was 7’1”...7’0”-ish barefoot.

Yep I mentioned that he was probably wearing his dress shoes for the measurement but I do think it's his legitimate measurements as the writing on the paper is not meant to be seen. It's not my theory I just rather see facts then guessing.
JT said on 18/Dec/18
Click Here Not sure who the other guy is but he’ll be around 6’2”.
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Click Here I assume Goliath is a reference to Giant Haystacks
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RIP Bill Fralic Click Here
RP said on 17/Dec/18
@ Boss, looks like the measurements were taking with his shoes on? Your theory would suggest about a 7’2” Andre with shoes on? IMO, his peak height with dress shoes on was 7’1”...7’0”-ish barefoot.
Sotiris Gravas said on 16/Dec/18
@RP God bless you, dude! I'm very thankful to still have them in my life.
Canson said on 16/Dec/18
6’11 range peak
Gretz said on 16/Dec/18
Gravis your parents are very good looking people you should be very proud of your heritage.And thanks for posting that pic of Andre and dutch Savage it`s actually better then the one I tried to post.I know we disagree on Andre`s peak height by an inch or so,but i feel like I have met a true friend posting with you and that`s hard to come by.In fact if i ever have problems with anyone I will tell them I will send my monster friend Gravis to take care of you.And Boss you have been carrying the banner for A 7 foot Andre proudly for many years.Just take a look at his year book of Andre and it might just change your mind.Gravis what is your opinion of Savage`s height I am thinking billed 6'4" but closer to 6'2".
Michael Allen said on 15/Dec/18
7' in the 70s
6'10" around WM 3
6'9" around 1991 (when Earthquake kayfabe broke his leg with Jimmy Hart's megaphone)

I remember watching Wrestlemania 7, where Andre came to the ring with the Big Boss Man (billed at 6'6, but was probably closer to 6'4) Andre looked around 4 inches taller maximum.
RP said on 14/Dec/18
Sotiris, great pic of the folks! You favor your father a lot. Beautiful couple. Great parents are a blessing.
Boss said on 13/Dec/18
Andre at the tailor in early 1970's and the paper in the tailors hand has Andre's actual measurements on it. His backdrop which is from bottom of his shirt collar to the floor is 74" or 6'2". So this is around the top of his shoulders. You still have his massive head and part of his neck to measure. Hard to argue with facts.

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Boss said on 13/Dec/18
Here is Andre and Hogan face to face. You couldn't find a better picture for comparing head sizes. Andre's head comes out 13.05" long. Andre's torso was also very long compared to others. Andre's backdrop measurements from the tailor pics from the early 1970's that were posted here many times before was 6'2" probably in his dress shoes he was wearing that day. Backdrop is from the top of his collar to the floor and is actually supposed to be measured in socks. You still have his head to go on top of that. Andre's head was probably around 3" longer than Wilt's head and Wilt had longer legs than Andre. By the time you reach the tops of their heads they are very close in height.

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Gretz said on 12/Dec/18
Thanks for the kind words GRAVAS MY BIG FRIEND,I don`t know how you found it I have never seen this pic of Arnold and Andre but it looks like circa 1986 and Andre only looks 6'10,5"-6'10,75 at best here.That is his height at WM3 I.M.O.,now the pic with KANE AND Rand Paul(even with his head tilted slightly to the left,I don`t see more then 6'7"-6'7.5.i know he was billed at 7'0" at one time,don`t know why he was never as tall as Big Show and maybe an inch taller than taker.perhaps he lost an inch over the years,i know if he stood next to you he would be lucky to have a fraction on you.I didn`t think Jackman was that tall,all i can tell you Gravis when you work out skip dead lifting a man of your height is going to risk herniated disks.I was only 5'11.5" and went to 5'10" after injuring my back deadlifting,look at poor Ronnie Colman now he can barley walk doing 800 lbs. for a double.and graham and Benoit are tradgedies at the aoutopsy he had the brain of an 80 year old man.And had know idea Arnold lost one of his testicles,the steroids have bad side effects if you take them too long.
Sotiris Gravas said on 11/Dec/18
@Gretz Here's a pic of my mom (and dad) back when she was 57, looking more beautiful... and taller:
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62B said on 11/Dec/18
A young Bigshow with thick boots Click Here Doesn't really look any taller than an older Andre to me
62B said on 10/Dec/18
Pretty sure this match was from 1988 Click Here the same year I stood right behind Duggan and the same year I got knocked down by Andre. I know most on this site think Duggan was 6'2", but really he was a fraction over at the time. Somewhere around 6'2 1/4" to maybe 6'2 1/2".
Pdoggy said on 10/Dec/18
Richard Mulligan 6'1 right next to Andre standing straight lines up the same way all people of similar height do.
Halb said on 9/Dec/18
THat pic of Hugh and Ryan is interesting
Canson said on 9/Dec/18
I swear some of these statements are just lazy and copout statements. Barkley is a sloucher and what if Kobe’s wife measured him at night? The measurement at night is no less valid than one of these athletes measuring less than an hour out of bed and being listed as such. But nothing is ever said about someone who measures at 6 or 7 am but there’s an issue with a measurement at night? An evening measurement doesn’t vary from an afternoon measurement by much maybe 1/8” tops. In many cases, your afternoon and evening measurements will be identical especially if you aren’t on your feet. In fact you can gain height if you are laying around on the couch or sitting on a couch after you get home in the evening
Editor Rob
They were very quick to remove his wife's statement on instagram, I remember when the visitor mentioned, many of us would have read it...the next day it was gone like that. I wonder if Kobe told her 'delete that ****'!
Sotiris Gravas said on 9/Dec/18
Arnie and Wilt (equal 0.5" footwear)... Click Here

Arnie (maybe 6'0.5" peak, footwear advantage) and Andre... Click Here , Click Here


Andre and 6'0" Don Stansauk (1984); nice JT pics... Click Here , Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Dec/18
@Gretz I feel bad for Graham. Even worse for Chris Benoit and his family...

I'm curious, how tall do you think Kane looks next to 5'6.25" Rand Paul...? Click Here
Guanzo said on 8/Dec/18
Andre looks 7ft in this picture

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Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Dec/18
@Gretz Thanks for the kind words about my mom. You're a true gentleman. She's a cute 80-year-old. This is Hugh Jackman (that Rob lists as 6'1.5") next to 6'2" Ryan Reynolds... Click Here , Click Here
Either there's a disparity in footwear... or heavy lifting for Wolverine has taken its toll in terms of height for Jackman. I try not to go too crazy at the gym w/ things that will compress my spine over time. I only recently learned that Arnie lost a testicle due to steroid use. Yikes!


@Johnnywalker... Please expound a little w/ that one, dude. Too much Johnnie Walker, perhaps...?
Gretz said on 6/Dec/18
By the way Mike Graham passed away in october 2012 from a gunshot wound to the forehead,what goes through the minds of all these wrestlers that die young that they either kill them selves or die from steroid abuse just tragic!If you even go through the last 10 years there are hundreds of wrestlers that died under the age of 60 because of suicide or drug abuse.
Gretz said on 6/Dec/18
Gravis that pic with Debra Harry is one of those odd pics where I think Andre should look taller.Just like in the bobby Hull pic he looks very tall(the one on the baseball field and Hull`s height is documented by a team of scientists to be 5'10" and his son Brett looks an inch taller than his father and is almost always listed at 5'11").Anyway I think he looks 16.5 inches taller than Debra to almost 18 inches(as I think Andre had a 12.5 inch head)that makes her around the 5'6" you estimated it`s a hard estimate to say the least and not a pic I would like to use to determine his height i.M.O in those high heels.and if you consider your pupils to the top of your head 5 to 5.5 inches(mine is)valiant could be 8 inches taller than harry,assuming she has large heels on again.but it does get harder to estimate heights when one person is 5'5" and the other 7'0".By the way Gravis you poor guy to shrink to 6'7" in the afternoon,I would have been happy with a 6'0" listing.
Johnnywalker said on 6/Dec/18
Wow Gravis. Most people shrink when they get older but your mom has grown two inches. That has to be a first Gravis.
Michael 5'10", 178 cm said on 6/Dec/18
Andre was at least 7'0", he wasn't that much shorter than Wilt in both of their primes. He was either 7'0" or slightly under 7'1" at his peak. Not 6'10"-6'11" or 7'4"-7'5" like some people say.
Gretz said on 5/Dec/18
Gravis I have no doubt that you are 6'7"(maybe Rob should set up a page for you!)and your mother is a beautiful woman.I.M.O mike Graham is closer to 5'6.5" it`s hard to tell with shorter guys but Andre could easily have 18 inches on him he may even be bent slightly to avoid the pipe at his head level.He is never going to be taller than he is there got to be circa 1976-78,in fact on the W.W.E channel graham claims Andre drank 156 16oz. cans in one sitting!And on a personal note in 1985 when I was in 12th grade i Was measured in gym class in socks at 5'11.5" and at the docs office under one of those machines.Fast forward to 2001 I injure my back dead lifting and measure 5'10" so these wrestlers taking bumps night after night really do lose height.So don`t get injured lifting Gravis you might drop to a mere 6'5.5"!
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Dec/18
@Gretz For what it's worth, I measured my parents again earlier today and told them to stand as straight as humanly possible, to really go for it... My mom measured in at 5'6" and my dad at 5'9.5". Granted, they weren't walking around all day at a shopping mall, so that helps w/ avoiding height loss. Also, I'm pretty sure my mom had on a 1.5" heel in that pic I posted.

So, in shoes, I'm at least 6'8", and my mom was maybe 5'7.5" in shoes, whereas Andre and Graham are in wrestling boots w/ maybe a 0.25" sole.


Here's 5'3" Debbie Harry (5'6" in heels) next to Andre for comparison:
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And of course, Big Show w/ 5'4.5" Kelly Kelly (around 5'8.5" in HUGE heels):
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Just for fun, here's Debbie and Handsome Jimmy Valiant (billed as 6'2")... and the "New York Rangers"... Click Here
Gretz said on 5/Dec/18
Gravis my huge friend,i think I wrote my intentions wrong.I don`t think you ever photo shopped a pic of Andre,I was talking about JT and I apologize to you I had no right to say that(we have been posting here over 12 years,and while we have our differences I don`t think you cheat).In fact betwixt the 3 of us we are usually within an inch or so no matter who we our talking about,so i respect both of you guys opinion.but I still think Andre peaked 6'11.5"-7'0.75 so there LOL,Gravis keep those interesting pics of Andre coming great work!
Sotiris Gravas said on 4/Dec/18
@Gretz I give you my word, I would never Photoshop a pic of Andre or myself. Now, I'm only around 6'7" in the afternoon ... here I am (fairly recent pic, 275 lbs) w/ my mom (around 5'5.5", w/ footwear advantage, 200 lbs)... Click Here


Now, compare that w/ Andre (closer to camera) and a guy who's around 5'6" (JT says maybe 5'5"), Mike Graham: Click Here


Now, how tall do you think I look... and how tall do you think Andre looks...?
Mr. Gadong said on 4/Dec/18
Andre The Giant's Height At Age 30: 7ft 1.25 barefoot, morning time.

Andre The Giant's Height At Age 45 (One Year Before His Death): 6ft 10.25 barefoot, morning time.

Andre's back surgery & growing age made him shorter, Andre was a lot taller in his prime.
Gretz said on 3/Dec/18
Gravis,more great pics from you you have recently have been pacing JT(not you Gravis) for posting the best pics although nothing personal i think you photoshop some of your pics to make Andre to come out at a height that helps you argument)and most people who post here have no idea that you have posted hundreds of pics of Andre around 10 years ago of him being 6'11.And I could actually concede Andre could have been 6'11" to 7'0.75 in his prime,I think in say 1974 andre was 7'0.50" or so out of bed but maybe 6'11"and a fraction by the time he wrestled that night(besides i think JT could kick my ass as he is 6'4",but a guy 6"7" and i read a true giant male is considered 6'6.5" so i don`t want to irritate you to much).i think Andre was at least 7 foot till at least 1978 in that last pic with Backlund.But by ww3 he was still about 6'10.75" 1986?In 1984 in the Wilt pics he still looked about 6.11.5.By the way i read Andre incline benched 475 lbs for 8 reps,using a math formula they estimated he could flat bench 700lbs.anyone think its possible,I know he could dead lift probably a 1000 pounds or even more.Ken Patere once said that if Andre took steroids that he would break the records in the squat and dead lift no problem.
Gretz said on 3/Dec/18
It`s no secret for the past 12 or so years Andre is always 6'10" or 7'0" that is the main argument.As everyone knows I think he peaked at 7'0.5".but I am curious to the people who vwhatever think he didn`t fall in that range,what made you think he was knowing he was the billed 7'4" or I have heard as low as 6'6"(ridiculas in both instances)you do know this skews everone`s height to levels not possible.Hogan at 6'10"-6'1",or a 6 footer at 6'5+ or 5'8".the funny thing is to 90% of the wrestling public will say he is 7'4" or 7'5" just because they where told that.But anyone that posts a 7'2" or 6'9",i will just have to laugh at and say they know nothing about heights.Rob your site seems to be the only truth about actual heights,say they say Sly 6'0"(now with his elevator shoes he may be close to that) but at the pool he seems more like5'7.5 paticularly at his age early 70`s.
JEM said on 28/Nov/18
Andre's peak height looked to be 7'0
Sotiris Gravas said on 28/Nov/18
@JT I used to think that Mean Gene might be 5'9", but am now convinced that his peak was around 5'8".

Here's a recent height-loss pic of Gene (75 years old) w/ 69-year-old Jim Brunzell (billed as 5'10"):
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The reason I think Mike Graham is around 5'6" is b/c he looks around the same height as 5'3" (5'6" in heels) Debbie Harry. If he was really only 5'5", that means other wrestlers like Bruno Sammartino are even shorter than I thought.


Consider the following Bruno pic... Click Here
Compare w/ Graham... Click Here
NCL said on 28/Nov/18
Regarding the Andre and Wilt pic, I think this is the best one. Both are standing straight. I think someone from this site posted the photoshop to give us an idea of Wilt's head: Click Here

Here's another good one with some photoshopped sizes of Wilt's Head (please zoom in):
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IMO, they are NEARLY the same height in their respective footwear in this photo. Maybe Wilt has 1/4" on Andre tops, hard to tell. Andre's eyes, shoulders, etc are lower than Wilt's but Andre's head is absolutely enormous. The lower features gives the allusion Andre's much shorter when in reality he's not because his head is so large.

Now barefoot, that's another story. It really depends on how much height each guys shoes are giving them, and that's still debatable.

Now here's my guess, but again, it's very debatable.

First, here's something that may not be debatable. According to this site, Wilt was measure at 7'1.06" barefoot Click Here

I'm assuming the shoes he's wearing in the picture don't give him much height. This is the best pic I could find: Click Here my guess is .5" tops.

So let's say, Wilt 7'1.56" in his shoes in the photo and Andre at 7'1.25" in his shoes in the photo.

Now it depends on how much height Andre's shoes give him. If it's 3", he was 6'10.25" at the time of the photo. If 2.5", then 6'10.75". If 2", then 6'11.25", etc.
JT said on 28/Nov/18
Halb said on 8/Nov/18

André looks closer to the camera to me from the feet. From looking at the arch, there is a slight tilt to the perspective as well.

The floor is level here unlike the altered tilted pic that Boss keeps posting. Click Here The feet look in similar positions although Andre could be leaning in a bit towards the camera and/or Wilt leaning away from the camera. Despite the probable 2 inch footwear advantage, Andre’s eyes are lower than Wilt’s and Andre’s forehead from the eyes up was probably not any longer than Wilt’s Andre is looking up to Wilt here too Click Here

Sotiris, Kobe’s height is not “100%” confirmed 6’4.75” but he is around that height. 6’4.75” was the height his wife reportedly measured him at but what if she measured him at night? And how exactly did she measure him?

Barkley is a sloucher and is taller than Kobe as well as Michael Jordan. Click Here You can’t have Mean Gene at 5’9” and Barkley at 6’4.75” unless you think Barkley has a 7.75” long head. Click Here Gene was around 5’8” and Barkley, who has a good size noggin, has an easy full head size on him. ~ 6’5” Hulk Hogan needed cowboy boots to have a full head size on Gene.

It was Jim Breaks who looked 5’3” with Dynamite Kid, not Mick McMichael.

Mike Graham was probably around 5’5”. Dan Spivey said he was 5’2” but he wasn’t that short. There used to a match on YouTube of ~ 5’10” Greg Valentine wrestling Graham and it looked like Valentine was wrestling a child.
Canson said on 27/Nov/18
@Boss: so I guess the 6’4 5/8 at the olympics was somehow “altered”? Dan Majerle says here the guy was “maybe 6’5” probably 6’4. Not a flat 6’4 but 6’4 range is what he meant. But Majerle has played with him as have Danny Ainge or Joe Klein etc. who’ve also said that about him. And Rob has said repeatedly that mugshots add if the person is looking down at the camera. You shouldn’t accuse JT of something like that really because your statement about him downplaying his height or about others who perceive his height as 6’4.75 is equally as questionable

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Boss said on 26/Nov/18
JT is a BigShow mark and thinks Paul was 2 or more inches taller than Andre which has been proven wrong here. Andre with a 1" footwear matches up to Wilt better than a peak Shaq who also has a footwear advantage on Wilt. Andre matches up with Arnold better than Shaq too.
Boss said on 26/Nov/18
Anyone on here who uses comparison photos by JT must not realize JT alters all his photos to fit his own arguments which has been proven here many times.
Boss said on 26/Nov/18
Charles Barkley likes to downgrade his own height. Anyone who thinks he was 6'4.75" has no idea what they're talking about when it comes to height. Here is actual proof instead of guessing.
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Pdoggy said on 26/Nov/18
Check Barkley mugshots. He is over 6'7 in the pics
Pdoggy said on 26/Nov/18
Yes all 6'8. Battier, Mike miller

Lebron is at least 6'8. If not more.
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Nov/18
@Gretz The pic you posted of Andre and Dutch Savage didn't show up. Here it is:
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Savage and (always barefoot) Snuka (billed as 5'10")... Click Here

Andre and a barefoot Snuka... Click Here , Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Nov/18
@Pdoggy and JT Look at Barkley next to 100% 6'4.75" Kobe... Click Here ,
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In other words, Barkley is not 6'6", nor was he ever that height.




What I find intriguing is 6'7" Frank Howard next to 5'8" Joey Bishop... Click Here ,
Click Here, in relation to Andre and Joey Bishop... Click Here, which came to my attention when JT posted this great comparison shot... Click Here

It's things like this that made me think Andre was not "that" tall. Let's be honest, Andre does not look that tall there... Maybe Bishop was tiptoeing...
Pdoggy said on 25/Nov/18
Click Here

How tall is Sir Charles Barkley again??
Sotiris Gravas said on 24/Nov/18
@Pdoggy. LeBron is 6'6.5" at a low and Battier is around 6'6.25"... so no. LOL.


@JT I have to admit, I remember seeing that for the first time before you posted it here, and I was surprised at how tall Barkley looked. That said, Barkley was closer to the camera. Click Here Based on eyeline, I don't see him as tall as 6'6". One thing's for sure, the camera does add more than 10 lbs to Barkley...

I'd be willing to give Barkley 6'4.75", nothing more. Ppl don't always look as tall as they normally do. Bosh could have been on his feet all day and lost some height...


I remember you saying that Mick McMichael was 5'3" (5 inches shorter than The Dynamite Kid).
That might be the case, but if so, he's tiptoeing a little here... Click Here

For a comparison, here's Andre w/ 5'6" Mike Graham... Click Here (When the smile lines up, it means the other person is 5'6".)

Here's McMichael and Dirty Dan Collins (billed 5'10") back in 1995... Click Here



Just for fun, here's Andre w/ my patented height marker w/ Wahoo McDaniel (both in cowboy boots):
Click Here McDaniel isn't more than 5'9". One thing's for sure, Wahoo was NOT 6'3", LOL:

Click Here Even more laughable than Andre being 7'4".


Guys, feel free to use this gauge which can 100% determine the height of other wrestlers.
Pdoggy said on 24/Nov/18
Furthermore Charles Barkley is at least six foot six maybe a tad more at his peak height

If Ray Allen is roughly 6 foot 5 then Miller and Battier have to be 6 ft 8
Guanzo said on 24/Nov/18
6'8.5" Rashard Lewis with Chris Bosh and LeBron James

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Pdoggy said on 23/Nov/18
Yes all 6'8. Battier, Mike miller

Lebron is at least 6'8. If not more.
Vegas' said on 23/Nov/18
Yes Shaq makes 6'10 Bosh look 'short' in that video.

Re: Piper he was noticeably shorter than Ted Shackelford on the Love Boat. That was filmed in 89 but aired February 90. Rob has Shackelford listed at 185cm so if Piper was 6'1 at any time he lost height before 1989..
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Nov/18
More short guys next to Andre via the specific height marker I've indicated:
Andre and Jim Breaks... maybe 5'4"... Click Here

W/ Tito Montez (cowboy boots)... Click Here

W/ 5'4.5" John Mancer... Click Here


Just a reminder, when someone's mouth lines up like this to Andre here w/ Mike Graham, it means they're 5'6"... Click Here


W/ that in mind, how tall does that make Bruno Sammartino?... Click Here

W/ Bob Backlund (footwear advantage)...? Click Here



Just for fun, here's Mike Graham and Barry Windham... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Nov/18
@Pdoggy Here's Shane Battier w/ Mike Miller... Click Here

Here w/ Miller and Ray Allen (who's around the same height as 6'4.75" Kobe Bryant:
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Kobe and Allen... Click Here



Dude, NBA-listed heights are almost always in shoes and often rounded up. Shane Battier was never 6'8" barefoot.

Then again, Ray Allen is actually listed as 6'5", around his actual height, which is weird.



Now, compare Mike Miller to 6'6.5" LeBron James (6'7.25" is a morning height):
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Here's Battier next to 6'10.25" Chis Bosh... Click Here Does that look like a 6'8" guy to you.

This is a recent pic of 6'8" Alonzo Mourning and Battier. One guy is 6'8" and the other clearly isn't:
Click Here

I'd give Battier 6'6.25", nothing more.



Do you still think Battier is 6'8"...? It's funny how all three men, Battier, LeBron and Mike Miller are listed as 6'8".
184guy2 said on 22/Nov/18
@Danimal
Piper suffered a bike accident on early 1991 . He did it hurt his legs , I don't know if he lost height by that occasion ,probably not . His hips surgery was in late 96 before his match against Hogan on Starrcade . In early 2000 he also had other surgery ( one was from biceps ) . He definetely looked shorter when he met Vince Russo on TNA in 2002 . Russo was like 6'2 and had Piper by a few inches . When Piper returned in 2003 to WWE , he looked like 4 cms shorter than McMahon . 7 years earlier Piper was as tall ( there is a chance that Mcmahon started to use lifts troughout Attitude Era with his character because he looked at times 6'2 being in his mid 50's ). In 2005 he looked shorter than a 40 yro Shawn Michaels. In 2006 he had the remotion of the tumor if I'm not wrong . In 2009 for example , he looked shorter than Ricky Steamboat ( in early 80's Piper had him by 3 inches ) . In his later years he looked 4''+ shorter than Dean Ambrose and only a good inch taller than Daniel Bryan . I believe he went from a legit 6'1 ( until 1996) to an almost 5'9 guy in by the time of his death .
JT said on 22/Nov/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 12/Nov/18
@Pdoggy Shaq and LeBron... Click Here

LeBron and 6'10.25" Chris Bosh... Click Here

Just compare their heights when they are standing by each other
Click Here Shaq is several inches taller than Bosh and Barkley looking around 6’6” with Bosh b/c he was.
Halb said on 21/Nov/18
Roddy's height difference there with Duggan in the two pics is fairly surprising
RP said on 21/Nov/18
184guy2,
I stand corrected...
After watching Piper’s debut in WCW @ Halloween Havoc in October 1996...Piper did still look a solid 6’0” there with Hogan & Paul Wight. However, I stand by that he only looked 5’10”-ish in the very esrly 2000’s! Say, like around 2001-2002....he simply only looks 5’10” to me in the things I pulled up & watched from 2000-2002.
2000 @ 5’10-1/2”
2002 @ 5’10”
2005: 5’9.5”
As Danimal pointed out, his spinal cancer tumor removal surgery cost him a lot of height in that time range. I think he even had some of his large intestines removed, if I’m not mistaken?
My final opinion on Piper:
Peak: 6’0.75”
1990: 6’0.5”
1995: 6’0”
2000: 5’10.5”
2005: 5’9.5”
RP said on 21/Nov/18
Sotiris, yeah... I have him in the 6’0-3/4” to 6’0-1//2” range at his peak... right @ 6’2” in his wrestling boots. His height loss was frightening !!!!
Pdoggy said on 21/Nov/18
Some people actually lose height for various reasons some through surgery some through age.
When did Shane Battier lose 2 inches in height?? 6'8 is his height not 6'6.

Does everyone's height have to be downgraded by 2 inches, just on the off chance there may be a picture trail back to Andre that actually proves to the downgraders that he was just over 7'.

Some do exaggerate height but not everyone. Truly large people do have custom shoes made or wear cushioned insoles because of the pounding there joints take.

Yes Andre's boots gave him a boost in height, not debating that point.

When you spend your life being 7' tall and weighing over 350+ pounds like Shaq or Andre you need support. Their feet take a beating.
Sotiris Gravas said on 20/Nov/18
Here's Andre and 5'6" Mike Graham (billed 5'8")... Click Here

Andre and 5'6" Louie Tillet (billed 5'9")... Click Here

Andre and 5'5" Rick McGraw ( billed 5'7", footwear advantage)... Click Here


Andre and Mike Pappas (fellow Greek) who was very short, maybe 5'4" (billed 5'7"): Click Here

Notice how that height marker on Pappas changes here... one of Andre's feet is off the ground and Pappas is much shorter here (ground could be uneven)... Click Here ,
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Louie Tillet was billed as 5'9" but was around 5'6". Here he is next to 5'7" peak height Maurice Vachon, looking around 5'5", later in life... Click Here


Here's a little pic of 5'5" McGraw and 5'11" Paul Orndorff (1984)... Click Here



@RP It's funny how much shorter Piper looks here w/ Andre, as compared to the other pics I posted:
Click Here

I find that pic very odd.
Gretz said on 20/Nov/18
hope I did this right,Dutch Savage always listed as 6'4"(but in all honestley probably 6'2".Just wanted to show how Andre can dwarf a big sized man even though his giant head is leaning over Click Here is unknown to many guys today but in his day considered a big man.
Sotiris Gravas said on 19/Nov/18
@RP Not sure, maybe Piper was 6'0.5" peak. I could be wrong.

Dramatic height loss for him, next to a now 6'1" Duggan... Click Here ,
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184guy2 said on 19/Nov/18
@RP
Pretty bad estimation about Piper :
He wasn't a weak 5'11 until 2004-2005
Fun fact , Piper looked as tall as Vince Mcmahon (listed 6'1.5 peak) in 1996
Do you really think that Piper looks 3inches shorter ?
Click Here
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 19/Nov/18
RP said on 18/Nov/18
Sotiris, what do you have a peak (1978-1990) Roddy Pipper at?
I have him @ 6’0-3/4”...by 1995 he looked a weak 5’11”....2000 he looked 5’10”-ish....

And when he died he was down to around 5'8" at best. He has huge amounts of his spine removed due to a cancerous tumor. His first height loss was in the WCW when he had a double hip replacement. He went from being at least 6'1" (he had 2-3" on Bruno Sammartino and Paul Orndorff in the mid-80's and was around the same height as Vince McMahon (pre Vince's height loss) until the early 1990's). He had his hip replacement in the mid 1990's and instantly looked shorter, but it wasn't drastic, still looking close to 6'0, but it wasn't until the early 2000's (after the WCW was bought over) that he had part of his spine removed, where you could literally see his stomach protruding under his shirt (as though he had a beer belly), because his upper torso was inches shorter than it had previously been, due to several discs in his spine being removed, where the tumor was. At that time, he claimed that he used to stand 6'1.5" (billed 6'2") and was down to 5'9". He progressively lost even more height throughout the last years of his life, standing around the same height as Mean Gene at the end, a man he used to DWARF in the WWF and even in the WCW. I can provide pics if you don't believe me.
Gretz said on 18/Nov/18
RP i am going to say I agree even before I read it from you that Piper was 6'0.75" at his peak.Even Keith David is listed as 6'1" they co-star in a movie called they live that came out in 1988 so that would be his peak height and they are just about the same height(i don`t see why they would exaggerate an actors height and i`m sure they where measured by a tailor).And the in ring pic with Andre and Piper he`s got piper by 12 inches easy this pic seems to me circa 1978,and I am not trying to say Andre is 7'1" here but man he looks very tall here so 7'0.25" is not out of the question.That`s why i`m trying to say you can`t just use 1 pic there are two many variables.
the two pics with Piper and Hogan,he looks 4 inches in one and 5 inches in the other taller than Piper.And as I said before I think Andre was a 7 footer from around 1969 to 1978,1978 being the last known pic with Backlund close to a cinder block wall they both seem to be their true heights 6'1" and 7'0" respectively.The funny thing is I used to work at a high rise in center city Philadelphia and worked in building maintenance for 14 years,and I measured many cinder block walls in the fire towers and none of them came up to the same height as I thought they would.However in this case it seems to ring true all i can say is by 1990-91 the pic with Bam bam he seems to be about 6'9.5" his body had deteriorated significantly by this point although he was 555lbs. by the time of his death,he must have been in agony for a long time and the alcohol numbed it to some degree.
RP said on 18/Nov/18
Sotiris, what do you have a peak (1978-1990) Roddy Pipper at?
I have him @ 6’0-3/4”...by 1995 he looked a weak 5’11”....2000 he looked 5’10”-ish....
Gretz said on 17/Nov/18
Gravis you certainly didn`t have to remind me that Al was certainly barefoot in that pic with Andre(no way he dwarfs a 6'0" man by that much,and thanks for all the pics with the old bruins a dynasty in their own right)if not for the Habs they would have 4 cups instead of two.And in 1973-74 when my flyers beat the bruins for the cup(thanks mostly to Parent)Sims had an incredible +63 at the age of 20 mostly because he was often paired with the best d-man of all time Bobby Orr,when Orr was paired with Dallas Smith Orr was a +124 a record yet to be beat Smith riding on his coat tails was +94.the pics with the Bruins are all great,but I hesitate to put an accurate height on Andre in them lets just say I.M.O he could well be 7 foot there.Add them with the cake pics from around that time and I would say Andre at his peak was 6'11.5-7'0.5"It`s a shame we can`t see Andre`s foot ware in the pic with Sims as it looks to be about 11:20 a.m so he was probably near the tallest he would get throughout the day.
Gretz said on 17/Nov/18
In the 12-13 years i have been posting here(Rob what was Andre`s top listing when you first started this page?I recall the first time visiting he was way up at 7'1.5",then got short as 6'11".Then it was 6'11.5" maybe back in 2008 we had a vote to add an extra half inch to make him 7'0" the overwhelming consensus is that Andre was 7'0" at his peak.
Now i would like to talk about their first meeting in Hamburg Pa.,(even though they wrestled in the south back in 1978 when Hogan was known as Sterling Golden and they arm wrestled to set up a feud)Back then and in 1980 andre looked a good 6 inches taller than hogan.Even back stage after hogan won the belt Andre is pouring champagne on his head and with the level camera angle Andre still looks 6 inches taller than Hogan.Andre also had that small foot ware advantage although by 1984 i think Andre was no taller than 6'11.5".Even by ww3 these college students made a post that by using pixles they estimated andre to be 5 inches at least taller than Hogan,and by then i think andre was 6'10.75" even back stage someone came up with that measurment but don`t know how he did it.
Sotiris Gravas said on 14/Nov/18
Andre and Piper... Click Here

Andre and Uncle Elmer (1985)... Click Here

Andre and Hogan... Click Here



Piper and Hogan for comparison... Click Here , Click Here
Piper w/ Studd (nice JT pic)... Click Here
P w/ Warrior/DDP... Click Here
P w/ Steamboat, nice BIG pic... Click Here
Steamboat and 5'11" Flair, nice BIG pic... Click Here , and here: Click Here

Piper and Bill Anderson... Click Here



@Gretz Andre and a barefoot Al Sims (6'0")... Click Here

And just for fun, one of Bret Hart having fun... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 12/Nov/18
@Pdoggy Shaq and LeBron... Click Here

LeBron and 6'10.25" Chris Bosh... Click Here
Gretz said on 12/Nov/18
There is not a vid or pic where Andre looks his billed 7'4",i thought we all knew this.And Stan does look tall in that last pic with Andre.But,he is standing tall as he can though Andre is not slouching,you can`t quite see how much of a boost his foot ware is giving him.While Andre has his low to no soul wrestling boots on,Stan is in the fore ground but is so heavy you can barley tell.Add it all up and Andre is 7'0" in that pic.I would love to see a pic of Ernie Ladd and Stan.
Pdoggy said on 12/Nov/18
Click Here

This is the kind of pic that needs to be posted. Back to back.

Now tell me again how is Shaq is not over 7ft compare him to Wilt and Andre there you have it.

If you want to say LeBron is 6 ft 7 6 foot 8 makes no difference Shaq is definitely over 7ft in this picture no doubt about it there is at least six or 7in between the two of them
tree said on 12/Nov/18
michael loughrie said on 11/Nov/18
Andre was 7' 4" at peak, he had some really bad back problems which lower him to 7' 0".

Can u back it up with evidence?Of course not.
michael loughrie said on 11/Nov/18
Andre was 7' 4" at peak, he had some really bad back problems which lower him to 7' 0".
Pdoggy said on 11/Nov/18
Barry and maybe 6'11" Bill Walton (and Dave Cowens)... Click Here

Or 7', 6'9 & 6'7.



Let's downgrade EVERYONE just to bring Andre down 2 inches.
RP said on 11/Nov/18
Thanks, Knoici !
Knoici said on 11/Nov/18
RP said on 10/Nov/18
Also, anyone know who the big dude in the flannel shirt & cowboy boots to the far right of Studd is ?

Probably,His name was Mike Dogendorf billed 195cm.
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Nov/18
@RP Yeah, I liked seeing DiBiase there; pretty cool pic that JT tracked down. DiBiase could easily pass for 6'2.5" (but I've always seen him as 6'2", given that he was billed as 6'3"). Also, we don't know what footwear Studd had on... but he does look more 6'6" in that pic.

We've all seen the pic of Studd w/ Rick Barry (listed 6'7", but that was a shoe measurement, or rounded up)... Click Here


Now, compare that w/ these nice JT pics of Barry w/ 6'4" DDP... Click Here ,
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I now see that height-loss Rick Barry is now around 6'4" next to 6'4.5" Charles Barkley (2015):
Click Here

Both Rick Barry and Dr. J were listed as 6'7" and are now the same height... Click Here

Barry and 6'11.5" Shaq (2016)... Click Here

6'4" Rick Barry w/ 6'8" Alonzo Mourning and 6'11.5" Shaq... Click Here
Alonzo and 6'7" Magic (2011)... Click Here


Final thought: I recall someone saying that Shaq used to wear insoles for support, I wonder if that still holds true... Shaq looks a lot shorter in the pic w/ just Rick Barry than the group photo w/ Alonzo. Hmmm...
Barry and maybe 6'11" Bill Walton (and Dave Cowens)... Click Here

And finally, Barry and another big dude, maybe 7'0.5" Ralph Sampson... Click Here
62B said on 10/Nov/18
RP said on 10/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Stan Frazier was indeed a legit 6’8”..good Call.
Big John Studd & One Man Gang? Well, More 6’6” than than 6’5”...I used to have Studd @ 6’6-1/2” & OMG @ 6’6”. In that pic you posted (great pic BTW) they are with a young & peak 6’2-1/2” Ted Debiase. They both look a Strong 6’6” there with Ted. They both could actually appear 6’6-1/2” in the photo with young/peak 6’2-1/2” Debiase..IMO. Also, anyone know who the big dude in the flannel shirt & cowboy boots to the far right of Studd is ?
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Ted is one of those guys I will always argue a solid strong 6'3" peak. I stood right next to him in a room full of mirrors. He was my height easy. Definitely taller than a peak Luger in person.
RP said on 10/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Stan Frazier was indeed a legit 6’8”..good Call.
Big John Studd & One Man Gang? Well, More 6’6” than than 6’5”...I used to have Studd @ 6’6-1/2” & OMG @ 6’6”. In that pic you posted (great pic BTW) they are with a young & peak 6’2-1/2” Ted Debiase. They both look a Strong 6’6” there with Ted. They both could actually appear 6’6-1/2” in the photo with young/peak 6’2-1/2” Debiase..IMO. Also, anyone know who the big dude in the flannel shirt & cowboy boots to the far right of Studd is ?
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Nov/18
Andre and 6'5" One Man Gang (billed 6'9")... Click Here
Andre and One Man Gang as Akeem... Click Here

6'5" One Man Gang and 6'5" Studd... Click Here
And here, way in the back, a nice JT pic... Click Here



@Xavier Nice pic of Uncle Elmer and Andre. Love it! Though, Frazier is definitely shorter (billed as 6'10", more like maybe 6'8").

Frazier and 5'10" Jimmy Hart... Click Here
Andre (bad posture) and Jimmy Hart in 1991... Click Here

Uncle Elmer and 5'10" Chief Jay Strongbow... Click Here
Elmer w/ 5'10.5" Jerry Lawler... Click Here
Halb said on 9/Nov/18
Looking at André square up to Big John Studd at WMv and in previous years, there doesn't seem to be any. I wouldn't be surprised to know there was some in the final years when he struggled to walk
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Nov/18
I can't buy a full 7 feet peak myself. Not barefoot at least. The full photos JT posted of Andre with Arnold and Piper where footwear is seen are surprising. The scale seems to show Arnold between the 6'2" and 6'3" marks in shoes with Andre "only" 6'10", which doesn't seem off in that pic since Arnold reaches Andre's nose or a little higher. Similarly, Piper looks 9" shorter at the absolute most and really a bit over 8" since he's clearly above Andre's mouth and a bit below his nose. I buy the 6'1" and 6'1.5" peak listings for Piper and Arnold, respectively. Some of the height difference is valid, but I think you can still get an idea of what a 7 footer looks like. Look at the photo JT posted of presumably 6'2" Brock Lesnar with cowboy boots and a big hat with the very top of his hat struggling to reach Shaq's mouth! And Hulk Hogan wasn't so far we couldn't compare and Andre was what? Maybe 5" taller? Same thing with 6'5" Chuck Wepner a decade earlier. 6'11"-6'11.5" range peak wouldn't be that surprising, but can anyone tell me if there's definitive evidence he lost a noticeable amount of height by the mid to late 80's?
Halb said on 8/Nov/18
André looks closer to the camera to me from the feet. From looking at the arch, there is a slight tilt to the perspective as well.
Pdoggy said on 8/Nov/18
I also never noticed that there are two faces in the background behind wilt who were they part of the crew stage crew?
Pdoggy said on 8/Nov/18
A couple of things about the original pics of Wilt Arnold and Andre is that Andre actually looks the same height if not a little bit taller and the camera is closer to Wilt you can tell by where they're looking Andres kind of looking across on an angle and Wilt is looking straight across so the camera angle favors Wilt.
184guy2 said on 7/Nov/18
@Boss
Thank you for posting a pic that have been posted millions of times
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Nov/18
Sorry, guys... I kinda mixed up some pics of Dino Bravo, Bruno Sammartino, and Gino Brito. I meant to post this... Click Here

This guy is actually Franz Van Buyten (billed as 6'1") from 1968... Click Here


Just for the hell of it, here's Andre w/ another guy billed as 6'1", Terry Funk:
Click Here

Funk and Sting height comparison... Click Here



Here's Andre w/ another cowboy, Frankie Lane (billed as 6'0")... Click Here





Here's Matt Morgan next to Cowboy Bob Orton (billed as 6'1")... Click Here

Morgan and Piper... Click Here

Morgan and Mike Miller (the politician, not the basketball player)... Click Here
Miller and 5'9" Marco Rubio for comparison... Click Here


So... how tall is a barefoot Matt Morgan...? One thing's for certain, there's NO way in hell that he's 6'8.5".
Xavier said on 7/Nov/18
Peak Andre the Giant and Stan Frazier look a similar height
Click Here
Boss said on 6/Nov/18
Andre, Arnold and Wilt from Arnold Schwarzenegger's twitter page.

Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Nov/18
Andre and Larry Zbyszko (billed as 5'11")... Click Here

Hogan and Zbyszko... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Nov/18
This is the kind of pic that made me think Andre wasn't "so" tall: here he is w/ 5'11" Click Here Dino Bravo:
Click Here (FYI, a 5'11" dude comes up to my lips, and I'm only 6'7").

Another... Click Here



Bravo and 6'4.5" Hogan... Click Here

Bravo and 6'3" Rick Rude... Click Here

Bravo and 5'9" Bruno Sammartino... Click Here Gino Brito looks shorter here:
Click Here , Click Here

I now see that Carpentier was more like 5'8", not 5'9"... Click Here

Andre and 5'8" Carpentier... Click Here


Andre and 5'9" Gino Brito... Click Here
Andre, Gino and Paul LeDuc... Click Here

Bravo and Brito... Click Here
Bravo and LeDuc... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Nov/18
Sorry, guys. I forgot to post that Steve Keirn/Jimm Garvin pic showing both men are around the same height: 5'10"... Click Here

Mike Graham was 5'6" in the pic w/ Andre, same as 5'3" Debbie Harry (5'6" in heels):
Click Here


@Pdoggy Here's Ladd (closer to camera) next to 6'2.5" Billy Graham... Click Here

A bigger pic of Billy and the 5'7" Grand Wizard... Click Here



Just for the hell of it... here's Andre w/ 6'1.5" Bigelow... Click Here
RoelC said on 4/Nov/18
Editor Rob said on 2/Nov/18
The 7ft 1 (and a bit) measurement is certainly an interesting tidbit, because why would this be made up or a lie...it seems to fit in with a rough 'in shoe' measurement.
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Editor Rob, why is the 7ft1 (and a bit) measurement more interesting than the 6’9 ¾” measurement claimed by Meltzer?

Neither measurement is backed up by the slightest bit of proof. Boss can keep claiming it’s the most detailed account of a measurement, but the fact is that Jody Hamilton hardly gave any details.

He basically just said that Andre was measured by some guy at a tv-show and he was measured over 7ft1. Oh and the guy gave a favourable review in the newspaper the next day.

Wow some details there! He doesn’t give the name of the tv-host, the name of the tv-show that Andre was supposedly measured at and also doesn’t mention the name of the newspaper the review was posted in. Every info one needs to track down proof of that measurement has been (purposely?) left out by Jody Hamilton. And I’ve tried to find some supporting evidence to Hamilton’s claim. But the more evidence you find, the more unlikely his story sounds.

When exactly did the measurement took place? On Kayfabememories he claimed the measurement took place in 1968, but in his book he mentioned that Rod Fenton send Andre on a publicity tour. Fenton sold NWA All-Star Wrestling in late 1967 and wasn’t an active promoter anymore in Vancouver from 1968 onwards. The active promotes in 1968 were Sander Kovac & Gene Kiniski.

He also claimed their tv-show was aired all over Canada, but again that didn’t happen until Fenton left. TV-syndication for NWA All-Star Wrestling happened somewhere in 1968.

Here’s were Jody Hamilton’s claim doesn’t fit: are we supposed to believe that Andre was measured at 7’1+, yet was still being billed below 7ft until he went to Japan in 1970. Sorry but the idea of a 7ft1 giant being listed inches below his actual height is kinda hard to swallow.

We have a video of Andre in 1968 (the same year Andre was supposedly measured) where they claimed he was 2m11 (6’11”). That’s 2 inches less than what he was supposedly measured at. Even in shoes he wouldn’t have measured 7’1” if he was only 6’11” at the time. And that measurement wasn't a morning measurement as it took place prior to a tv-taping of their wrestling show.

Secondly there’s absolutely zero proof that Andre appeared in Canada in the 60’s. If Hamilton’s claim is true than the biography’s on Andre need to be rewritten as every biography claims his first appearance in Canada was in 1971. And it was in the Montreal territory, not the Vancouver territory. As far as I know, no one besides Jody Hamilton ever claimed Andre appeared in Canada prior to 1971. A bit odd that such an important piece of wrestling history (Andre appearing in North America for the first time) seems to have been completely forgotten by anyone except Jody Hamilton. Even more odd is that Frank Valois & Edouard Carpentier are being credited with bringing Andre over to North America, when according to Jody Hamilton he already appeared in the territory three years prior to that.

Say what you want about Meltzer’s claim, at least his claim matches up with Andre’s career timeline (even though some here have claimed it doesn't), as Andre was wrestling in France when he was 24 years old. Plus a 6ft10 wrestler being billed at 7ft+ is much more believable in the world of pro-wrestling than a 7ft1 wrestler being billed at 6ft10.
Pdoggy said on 4/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Why not this pic with Heenan, Ladd and Raschke. Much better for height estimate. Quality not quantity pics.

Click Here
Pdoggy said on 4/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Thanks I have seen pics of them before. You certainly post plenty of pics.
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Nov/18
The debate on Ernie Ladd's true height rages on. Here he is w/ billed 5'7" Ernie Roth (aka The Grand Wizard)... Click Here Trust me, a legit 6'9" guy would look WAY taller, I assure you.

More pics of both men... Click Here , Click Here


Ladd and Baron Von Raschke (billed 6'3")... Click Here



Wizard and Billy Graham (billed 6'4", was maybe 6'2.5")... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here
Graham (closer to camera) and 6'1" Vince back in 1977... Click Here



Wizard and another BIG man, 6'5" Blackjack Mulligan (billed 6'9")... Click Here



Wizard and Stan Stasiak (billed 6'4")... Click Here
Stasiak w/ 6'5" Don Leo Jonathan (billed 6'6)... Click Here
Stasiak and 6'1" Vince... Click Here




And finally, compare Wizard and Killer Kowalski (billed 6'7", was maybe a weak 6'6") to that of Ernie Ladd and Wizard... Click Here

Kowalski and a young 6'2" Triple H... Click Here , Click Here
Is it possible that Kowalski was as low as 6'5"...?
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Nov/18
If Steve Keirn (billed 6'0") was really around 5'10" as seen here compared to billed 5'10" Jimmy Garvin, then Mike Graham is shorter than his billed 5'8", and consequently, so is Andre... Click Here


Here's Graham next to 6'4" Barry Windham (bad posture) for comparison... Click Here



Here's billed 5'10" Jimmy Garvin and 6'5" Big John Studd (closer to camera): Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Nov/18
@Pdoggy Here's around 5'11.5" Joe Theismann when he's not being held up like a trophy by Andre:
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Nov/18
Sorry guys. This isn't Andre w/ a young Jim Neidhart, like I previously posted here. It's actually around 5'9" Eddie Gilbert (billed 5'10")... Click Here

Here's Gilbert and Andre seated (a pic I've never seen before)... Click Here

Gilbert and 6'2" Sting for comparison... Click Here , Click Here

Gilbert and Curt Hennig (a weak 6'2")... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here



I think this Curt Hennig here on the left w/ Andre at the back.... Click Here


Gilbert and around 5'9" Paul Heyman... Click Here
62B said on 2/Nov/18
JT I thought Terri Todd was around 6'2". That's not exactly short. Also Todd has been up close to a whole lot of tall athletes including Paul Wight and Wilt. Why would he not be a decent judge of Andres height? I would think he would be at least as good as Chet Coppock.
Pdoggy said on 2/Nov/18
@JT Thanks... but:

Editor Rob help me out.

@JT What is it going to take for you to realize that Andre's peak height was just over 7'. Terry Todd was no slouch and around people of size all the time. He is most certainly qualified to gauge height. So many examples of Andre pictured with people in the 6'10 range and he has them all beat. Doorway pics.Not to mention the "ORIGINAL WILT PICS" that have not been tilted. Under 7' is simply impossible. Lastly Andre was measured on Canadian TV which has also probably been squashed by Vince also because he was only 7'1. I agree he was embellished by boots and Afro but that was for 7'4" and up Kayfabe.

Like everyone you are most certainly entitled to your opinion. But something seems to sway you away from the truth with Andre. Not sure what it is.
Editor Rob
The 7ft 1 (and a bit) measurement is certainly an interesting tidbit, because why would this be made up or a lie...it seems to fit in with a rough 'in shoe' measurement.
JT said on 2/Nov/18
Pdoggy said on 31/Oct/18
….Why didn't you post the interview when it was still available??

It’s on this site now Click Here As I said earlier, there was too much of a height difference with Andre for Todd to pinpoint Andre’s height and that’s not even factoring in the Afro effect and any enhanced footwear that would have made it even more difficult.
RoelC said on 1/Nov/18
JT said on 30/Oct/18
YouTube had a recent interview with Terry Todd that’s since been pulled where Todd said Andre was 7 feet.

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Are you referring to this interview

Click Here

At 1:31 the interviewer asks him how tall Andre was and Todd's response was 'right at 7ft'.

I highly doubt Terry Todd knew Andre's legit height. He probably just guessed his height as almost everybody did.
Andre's legit height is wrestling's best kept secret and probably a secret that we'll never find a real answer to. Even today wrestler's will not break kayfabe and tell reporters how tall Andre legitimately was. Probably because the majority of wrestlers don't know Andre's legit height either.
berta said on 1/Nov/18
i believe andre was 7 foot legit out of bed and closer to 6 foot 11 in the evening
Boss said on 1/Nov/18
Boss said on 30/Oct/18
Maybe this was an early morning measurement but it's the most detailed account of Andre ever actually being measured.

Click Here

Editor Rob

In shoes I can believe that, but barefoot I am not 


More than likely Andre was in dress shoes or his ring gear for this measurement because it was well before his wearing cowboy boots days.
Canson said on 31/Oct/18
@184guy: you definitely have a little bit of both on this site I do agree.

@RP: being far away in height can make it tricky. I do agree. To be honest, I’ve never been able to pin down Andre’s height. As a wrestler, it makes it even tougher due to the extent of the inflation
Pdoggy said on 31/Oct/18
@JT
YouTube had a recent interview with Terry Todd that’s since been pulled where Todd said Andre was 7 feet.

Why didn't you post the interview when it was still available??
Boss said on 31/Oct/18
Billy Batts said on 29/Oct/18
Andre 6'9" peak height. His boots and afro added a few more inches. It was his sheer mass and bulk which made him standout. Back in the 60s and 70s there weren't many huge guys in wrestling. Guys 6'4" and over were few and far between so Andre was truly one of a kind in that era. In today's era with guys like Big Show, Kane, Khali, Strowman, etc he would just be another big guy.

Andre was and always will be The Giant. His massive overall size and features would always make him stand out no matter who he was next to or what era he was in. Wilt Chamberlin who is a giant in his own right looks like a toothpick beside Andre. His head was one of the largest heads in human history. Andre is what people picture in there heads when they hear the word giant.
Boss said on 30/Oct/18
Maybe this was an early morning measurement but it's the most detailed account of Andre ever actually being measured.

Click Here
Editor Rob
In shoes I can believe that, but barefoot I am not so sure.
RP said on 30/Oct/18
I agree with Canson...Sotiris makes a lot of good points & brings some great evidence to the table. And as a 5’11” man
When I walk by a 6’4.5” to 6’5” man, I can be like “wow, he’s a big dude, must be 6’5” or 6’6” ?? While Sotiris as a 6’7” man can walk by a 6’4” to 6’5” man and get a more accurate & precise eyeball measurement of them & be able to say, “nah, he’s more like 6’4.5” rather than 6’5” & change to 6’6”.
JT said on 30/Oct/18
Click Here Piper’s on a platform with Kareem if it’s not obvious.

A pic of Andre in the Bigfoot costume I have not seen before. Click Here Would be interesting to know if Ted Cassidy wore that same costume when he played the character in a subsequent Six Million Dollar Man and if so whether the suit had to be altered. Cassidy was listed as 6’9” in college but looked 6’7”ish in Beverly Hillbillies and I Dream of Jeanie.

YouTube had a recent interview with Terry Todd that’s since been pulled where Todd said Andre was 7 feet. Andre’s at least 7-8 inches taller than Todd though. With that large a height gap, Todd’s estimate is basically reduced to a guess unless he’s got photos standing side by side with Andre and Andre’s not in cowboy boots. Chet Coppock and Chuck Wepner are 3-4 inches taller than Todd and would be in a better position to estimate Andre’s height than Todd, although there would still be some speculation on their part too.
Billy Batts said on 29/Oct/18
Andre 6'9" peak height. His boots and afro added a few more inches. It was his sheer mass and bulk which made him standout. Back in the 60s and 70s there weren't many huge guys in wrestling. Guys 6'4" and over were few and far between so Andre was truly one of a kind in that era. In today's era with guys like Big Show, Kane, Khali, Strowman, etc he would just be another big guy.
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Oct/18
I guess I shoulda posted these two pics as well. Here's Andre next to Eric the Red (billed as 6'1) w/ Takahashi up front... Click Here

Here's 5'5" Takahashi next to Haystacks Calhoun in sandals (billed as 6'4"): Click Here

One more, just for the hell of it of Takahashi w/ Bad News Brown, Tito Santana, and Dusty Rhodes:
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Oct/18
Here's a nice pic I've never seen before of Andre w/ a young Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart sans facial hair:
Click Here

Here's a photo of Andre and Don Leo Jonathan (maybe 6'5") from 1972 that I've previously posted, only bigger... Click Here And another for the 1st time... Click Here

Andre (closer to camera, w/ what looks to be cowboy boots) and Rene Lasartesse (said to be 6'6"): Click Here




@Rob When will we see a section devoted to Ernie Ladd...?

Here's Ladd w/ Jack and Jerry Brisco, billed 6'0" and 6'2" respectively... Click Here

Here's Ladd as compared to 5'5" Takahashi... Click Here



Takahashi w/ Andre... Click Here

Takahashi w/ Hogan (and Stan Hansen)... Click Here , and here:
Click Here


W/ Iron Sheik... Click Here

W/ Nikolai Volkoff... Click Here
184guy2 said on 29/Oct/18
@Canson

Sotiris starts the arguments from assumptions , saying that someone is 1'' shorter than the reality to make other person shorter in comparsion . This isn't a fair game . Of course we still have a lot of upgraders here .

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