How tall is Andre The Giant

Andre The Giant's Height

7ft 0 (213.4 cm)

Andre Rene Roussimoff was a French Wrestler and Actor from The Princess Bride. His official site gives him 7ft 4, also shows his 'measured' height from wrestlemania 3 (1987) as a whopping 7ft 5. He suffered from acromelagy and was supposedly 6ft 7 age 17. His spine took a lot of damage over his career. In 1971 Andre claimed to be "214cm" (Just over 7ft) at a weight of 171kg.

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6ft 11.99in (213.3cm)
Sotiris Gravas said on 12/Nov/18
@Pdoggy Shaq and LeBron... Click Here

LeBron and 6'10.25" Chris Bosh... Click Here
Gretz said on 12/Nov/18
There is not a vid or pic where Andre looks his billed 7'4",i thought we all knew this.And Stan does look tall in that last pic with Andre.But,he is standing tall as he can though Andre is not slouching,you can`t quite see how much of a boost his foot ware is giving him.While Andre has his low to no soul wrestling boots on,Stan is in the fore ground but is so heavy you can barley tell.Add it all up and Andre is 7'0" in that pic.I would love to see a pic of Ernie Ladd and Stan.
Pdoggy said on 12/Nov/18
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This is the kind of pic that needs to be posted. Back to back.

Now tell me again how is Shaq is not over 7ft compare him to Wilt and Andre there you have it.

If you want to say LeBron is 6 ft 7 6 foot 8 makes no difference Shaq is definitely over 7ft in this picture no doubt about it there is at least six or 7in between the two of them
tree said on 12/Nov/18
michael loughrie said on 11/Nov/18
Andre was 7' 4" at peak, he had some really bad back problems which lower him to 7' 0".

Can u back it up with evidence?Of course not.
michael loughrie said on 11/Nov/18
Andre was 7' 4" at peak, he had some really bad back problems which lower him to 7' 0".
Pdoggy said on 11/Nov/18
Barry and maybe 6'11" Bill Walton (and Dave Cowens)... Click Here

Or 7', 6'9 & 6'7.



Let's downgrade EVERYONE just to bring Andre down 2 inches.
RP said on 11/Nov/18
Thanks, Knoici !
Knoici said on 11/Nov/18
RP said on 10/Nov/18
Also, anyone know who the big dude in the flannel shirt & cowboy boots to the far right of Studd is ?

Probably,His name was Mike Dogendorf billed 195cm.
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Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Nov/18
@RP Yeah, I liked seeing DiBiase there; pretty cool pic that JT tracked down. DiBiase could easily pass for 6'2.5" (but I've always seen him as 6'2", given that he was billed as 6'3"). Also, we don't know what footwear Studd had on... but he does look more 6'6" in that pic.

We've all seen the pic of Studd w/ Rick Barry (listed 6'7", but that was a shoe measurement, or rounded up)... Click Here


Now, compare that w/ these nice JT pics of Barry w/ 6'4" DDP... Click Here ,
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I now see that height-loss Rick Barry is now around 6'4" next to 6'4.5" Charles Barkley (2015):
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Both Rick Barry and Dr. J were listed as 6'7" and are now the same height... Click Here

Barry and 6'11.5" Shaq (2016)... Click Here

6'4" Rick Barry w/ 6'8" Alonzo Mourning and 6'11.5" Shaq... Click Here
Alonzo and 6'7" Magic (2011)... Click Here


Final thought: I recall someone saying that Shaq used to wear insoles for support, I wonder if that still holds true... Shaq looks a lot shorter in the pic w/ just Rick Barry than the group photo w/ Alonzo. Hmmm...
Barry and maybe 6'11" Bill Walton (and Dave Cowens)... Click Here

And finally, Barry and another big dude, maybe 7'0.5" Ralph Sampson... Click Here
62B said on 10/Nov/18
RP said on 10/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Stan Frazier was indeed a legit 6’8”..good Call.
Big John Studd & One Man Gang? Well, More 6’6” than than 6’5”...I used to have Studd @ 6’6-1/2” & OMG @ 6’6”. In that pic you posted (great pic BTW) they are with a young & peak 6’2-1/2” Ted Debiase. They both look a Strong 6’6” there with Ted. They both could actually appear 6’6-1/2” in the photo with young/peak 6’2-1/2” Debiase..IMO. Also, anyone know who the big dude in the flannel shirt & cowboy boots to the far right of Studd is ?
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Ted is one of those guys I will always argue a solid strong 6'3" peak. I stood right next to him in a room full of mirrors. He was my height easy. Definitely taller than a peak Luger in person.
RP said on 10/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Stan Frazier was indeed a legit 6’8”..good Call.
Big John Studd & One Man Gang? Well, More 6’6” than than 6’5”...I used to have Studd @ 6’6-1/2” & OMG @ 6’6”. In that pic you posted (great pic BTW) they are with a young & peak 6’2-1/2” Ted Debiase. They both look a Strong 6’6” there with Ted. They both could actually appear 6’6-1/2” in the photo with young/peak 6’2-1/2” Debiase..IMO. Also, anyone know who the big dude in the flannel shirt & cowboy boots to the far right of Studd is ?
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Nov/18
Andre and 6'5" One Man Gang (billed 6'9")... Click Here
Andre and One Man Gang as Akeem... Click Here

6'5" One Man Gang and 6'5" Studd... Click Here
And here, way in the back, a nice JT pic... Click Here



@Xavier Nice pic of Uncle Elmer and Andre. Love it! Though, Frazier is definitely shorter (billed as 6'10", more like maybe 6'8").

Frazier and 5'10" Jimmy Hart... Click Here
Andre (bad posture) and Jimmy Hart in 1991... Click Here

Uncle Elmer and 5'10" Chief Jay Strongbow... Click Here
Elmer w/ 5'10.5" Jerry Lawler... Click Here
Halb said on 9/Nov/18
Looking at André square up to Big John Studd at WMv and in previous years, there doesn't seem to be any. I wouldn't be surprised to know there was some in the final years when he struggled to walk
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Nov/18
I can't buy a full 7 feet peak myself. Not barefoot at least. The full photos JT posted of Andre with Arnold and Piper where footwear is seen are surprising. The scale seems to show Arnold between the 6'2" and 6'3" marks in shoes with Andre "only" 6'10", which doesn't seem off in that pic since Arnold reaches Andre's nose or a little higher. Similarly, Piper looks 9" shorter at the absolute most and really a bit over 8" since he's clearly above Andre's mouth and a bit below his nose. I buy the 6'1" and 6'1.5" peak listings for Piper and Arnold, respectively. Some of the height difference is valid, but I think you can still get an idea of what a 7 footer looks like. Look at the photo JT posted of presumably 6'2" Brock Lesnar with cowboy boots and a big hat with the very top of his hat struggling to reach Shaq's mouth! And Hulk Hogan wasn't so far we couldn't compare and Andre was what? Maybe 5" taller? Same thing with 6'5" Chuck Wepner a decade earlier. 6'11"-6'11.5" range peak wouldn't be that surprising, but can anyone tell me if there's definitive evidence he lost a noticeable amount of height by the mid to late 80's?
Halb said on 8/Nov/18
André looks closer to the camera to me from the feet. From looking at the arch, there is a slight tilt to the perspective as well.
Pdoggy said on 8/Nov/18
I also never noticed that there are two faces in the background behind wilt who were they part of the crew stage crew?
Pdoggy said on 8/Nov/18
A couple of things about the original pics of Wilt Arnold and Andre is that Andre actually looks the same height if not a little bit taller and the camera is closer to Wilt you can tell by where they're looking Andres kind of looking across on an angle and Wilt is looking straight across so the camera angle favors Wilt.
184guy2 said on 7/Nov/18
@Boss
Thank you for posting a pic that have been posted millions of times
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Nov/18
Sorry, guys... I kinda mixed up some pics of Dino Bravo, Bruno Sammartino, and Gino Brito. I meant to post this... Click Here

This guy is actually Franz Van Buyten (billed as 6'1") from 1968... Click Here


Just for the hell of it, here's Andre w/ another guy billed as 6'1", Terry Funk:
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Funk and Sting height comparison... Click Here



Here's Andre w/ another cowboy, Frankie Lane (billed as 6'0")... Click Here





Here's Matt Morgan next to Cowboy Bob Orton (billed as 6'1")... Click Here

Morgan and Piper... Click Here

Morgan and Mike Miller (the politician, not the basketball player)... Click Here
Miller and 5'9" Marco Rubio for comparison... Click Here


So... how tall is a barefoot Matt Morgan...? One thing's for certain, there's NO way in hell that he's 6'8.5".
Xavier said on 7/Nov/18
Peak Andre the Giant and Stan Frazier look a similar height
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Boss said on 6/Nov/18
Andre, Arnold and Wilt from Arnold Schwarzenegger's twitter page.

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Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Nov/18
Andre and Larry Zbyszko (billed as 5'11")... Click Here

Hogan and Zbyszko... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Nov/18
This is the kind of pic that made me think Andre wasn't "so" tall: here he is w/ 5'11" Click Here Dino Bravo:
Click Here (FYI, a 5'11" dude comes up to my lips, and I'm only 6'7").

Another... Click Here



Bravo and 6'4.5" Hogan... Click Here

Bravo and 6'3" Rick Rude... Click Here

Bravo and 5'9" Bruno Sammartino... Click Here Gino Brito looks shorter here:
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I now see that Carpentier was more like 5'8", not 5'9"... Click Here

Andre and 5'8" Carpentier... Click Here


Andre and 5'9" Gino Brito... Click Here
Andre, Gino and Paul LeDuc... Click Here

Bravo and Brito... Click Here
Bravo and LeDuc... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Nov/18
Sorry, guys. I forgot to post that Steve Keirn/Jimm Garvin pic showing both men are around the same height: 5'10"... Click Here

Mike Graham was 5'6" in the pic w/ Andre, same as 5'3" Debbie Harry (5'6" in heels):
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@Pdoggy Here's Ladd (closer to camera) next to 6'2.5" Billy Graham... Click Here

A bigger pic of Billy and the 5'7" Grand Wizard... Click Here



Just for the hell of it... here's Andre w/ 6'1.5" Bigelow... Click Here
RoelC said on 4/Nov/18
Editor Rob said on 2/Nov/18
The 7ft 1 (and a bit) measurement is certainly an interesting tidbit, because why would this be made up or a lie...it seems to fit in with a rough 'in shoe' measurement.
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Editor Rob, why is the 7ft1 (and a bit) measurement more interesting than the 6’9 ¾” measurement claimed by Meltzer?

Neither measurement is backed up by the slightest bit of proof. Boss can keep claiming it’s the most detailed account of a measurement, but the fact is that Jody Hamilton hardly gave any details.

He basically just said that Andre was measured by some guy at a tv-show and he was measured over 7ft1. Oh and the guy gave a favourable review in the newspaper the next day.

Wow some details there! He doesn’t give the name of the tv-host, the name of the tv-show that Andre was supposedly measured at and also doesn’t mention the name of the newspaper the review was posted in. Every info one needs to track down proof of that measurement has been (purposely?) left out by Jody Hamilton. And I’ve tried to find some supporting evidence to Hamilton’s claim. But the more evidence you find, the more unlikely his story sounds.

When exactly did the measurement took place? On Kayfabememories he claimed the measurement took place in 1968, but in his book he mentioned that Rod Fenton send Andre on a publicity tour. Fenton sold NWA All-Star Wrestling in late 1967 and wasn’t an active promoter anymore in Vancouver from 1968 onwards. The active promotes in 1968 were Sander Kovac & Gene Kiniski.

He also claimed their tv-show was aired all over Canada, but again that didn’t happen until Fenton left. TV-syndication for NWA All-Star Wrestling happened somewhere in 1968.

Here’s were Jody Hamilton’s claim doesn’t fit: are we supposed to believe that Andre was measured at 7’1+, yet was still being billed below 7ft until he went to Japan in 1970. Sorry but the idea of a 7ft1 giant being listed inches below his actual height is kinda hard to swallow.

We have a video of Andre in 1968 (the same year Andre was supposedly measured) where they claimed he was 2m11 (6’11”). That’s 2 inches less than what he was supposedly measured at. Even in shoes he wouldn’t have measured 7’1” if he was only 6’11” at the time. And that measurement wasn't a morning measurement as it took place prior to a tv-taping of their wrestling show.

Secondly there’s absolutely zero proof that Andre appeared in Canada in the 60’s. If Hamilton’s claim is true than the biography’s on Andre need to be rewritten as every biography claims his first appearance in Canada was in 1971. And it was in the Montreal territory, not the Vancouver territory. As far as I know, no one besides Jody Hamilton ever claimed Andre appeared in Canada prior to 1971. A bit odd that such an important piece of wrestling history (Andre appearing in North America for the first time) seems to have been completely forgotten by anyone except Jody Hamilton. Even more odd is that Frank Valois & Edouard Carpentier are being credited with bringing Andre over to North America, when according to Jody Hamilton he already appeared in the territory three years prior to that.

Say what you want about Meltzer’s claim, at least his claim matches up with Andre’s career timeline (even though some here have claimed it doesn't), as Andre was wrestling in France when he was 24 years old. Plus a 6ft10 wrestler being billed at 7ft+ is much more believable in the world of pro-wrestling than a 7ft1 wrestler being billed at 6ft10.
Pdoggy said on 4/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Why not this pic with Heenan, Ladd and Raschke. Much better for height estimate. Quality not quantity pics.

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Pdoggy said on 4/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Thanks I have seen pics of them before. You certainly post plenty of pics.
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Nov/18
The debate on Ernie Ladd's true height rages on. Here he is w/ billed 5'7" Ernie Roth (aka The Grand Wizard)... Click Here Trust me, a legit 6'9" guy would look WAY taller, I assure you.

More pics of both men... Click Here , Click Here


Ladd and Baron Von Raschke (billed 6'3")... Click Here



Wizard and Billy Graham (billed 6'4", was maybe 6'2.5")... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here
Graham (closer to camera) and 6'1" Vince back in 1977... Click Here



Wizard and another BIG man, 6'5" Blackjack Mulligan (billed 6'9")... Click Here



Wizard and Stan Stasiak (billed 6'4")... Click Here
Stasiak w/ 6'5" Don Leo Jonathan (billed 6'6)... Click Here
Stasiak and 6'1" Vince... Click Here




And finally, compare Wizard and Killer Kowalski (billed 6'7", was maybe a weak 6'6") to that of Ernie Ladd and Wizard... Click Here

Kowalski and a young 6'2" Triple H... Click Here , Click Here
Is it possible that Kowalski was as low as 6'5"...?
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Nov/18
If Steve Keirn (billed 6'0") was really around 5'10" as seen here compared to billed 5'10" Jimmy Garvin, then Mike Graham is shorter than his billed 5'8", and consequently, so is Andre... Click Here


Here's Graham next to 6'4" Barry Windham (bad posture) for comparison... Click Here



Here's billed 5'10" Jimmy Garvin and 6'5" Big John Studd (closer to camera): Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Nov/18
@Pdoggy Here's around 5'11.5" Joe Theismann when he's not being held up like a trophy by Andre:
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Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Nov/18
Sorry guys. This isn't Andre w/ a young Jim Neidhart, like I previously posted here. It's actually around 5'9" Eddie Gilbert (billed 5'10")... Click Here

Here's Gilbert and Andre seated (a pic I've never seen before)... Click Here

Gilbert and 6'2" Sting for comparison... Click Here , Click Here

Gilbert and Curt Hennig (a weak 6'2")... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here



I think this Curt Hennig here on the left w/ Andre at the back.... Click Here


Gilbert and around 5'9" Paul Heyman... Click Here
62B said on 2/Nov/18
JT I thought Terri Todd was around 6'2". That's not exactly short. Also Todd has been up close to a whole lot of tall athletes including Paul Wight and Wilt. Why would he not be a decent judge of Andres height? I would think he would be at least as good as Chet Coppock.
Pdoggy said on 2/Nov/18
@JT Thanks... but:

Editor Rob help me out.

@JT What is it going to take for you to realize that Andre's peak height was just over 7'. Terry Todd was no slouch and around people of size all the time. He is most certainly qualified to gauge height. So many examples of Andre pictured with people in the 6'10 range and he has them all beat. Doorway pics.Not to mention the "ORIGINAL WILT PICS" that have not been tilted. Under 7' is simply impossible. Lastly Andre was measured on Canadian TV which has also probably been squashed by Vince also because he was only 7'1. I agree he was embellished by boots and Afro but that was for 7'4" and up Kayfabe.

Like everyone you are most certainly entitled to your opinion. But something seems to sway you away from the truth with Andre. Not sure what it is.
Editor Rob
The 7ft 1 (and a bit) measurement is certainly an interesting tidbit, because why would this be made up or a lie...it seems to fit in with a rough 'in shoe' measurement.
JT said on 2/Nov/18
Pdoggy said on 31/Oct/18
….Why didn't you post the interview when it was still available??

It’s on this site now Click Here As I said earlier, there was too much of a height difference with Andre for Todd to pinpoint Andre’s height and that’s not even factoring in the Afro effect and any enhanced footwear that would have made it even more difficult.
RoelC said on 1/Nov/18
JT said on 30/Oct/18
YouTube had a recent interview with Terry Todd that’s since been pulled where Todd said Andre was 7 feet.

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Are you referring to this interview

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At 1:31 the interviewer asks him how tall Andre was and Todd's response was 'right at 7ft'.

I highly doubt Terry Todd knew Andre's legit height. He probably just guessed his height as almost everybody did.
Andre's legit height is wrestling's best kept secret and probably a secret that we'll never find a real answer to. Even today wrestler's will not break kayfabe and tell reporters how tall Andre legitimately was. Probably because the majority of wrestlers don't know Andre's legit height either.
berta said on 1/Nov/18
i believe andre was 7 foot legit out of bed and closer to 6 foot 11 in the evening
Boss said on 1/Nov/18
Boss said on 30/Oct/18
Maybe this was an early morning measurement but it's the most detailed account of Andre ever actually being measured.

Click Here

Editor Rob

In shoes I can believe that, but barefoot I am not 


More than likely Andre was in dress shoes or his ring gear for this measurement because it was well before his wearing cowboy boots days.
Canson said on 31/Oct/18
@184guy: you definitely have a little bit of both on this site I do agree.

@RP: being far away in height can make it tricky. I do agree. To be honest, I’ve never been able to pin down Andre’s height. As a wrestler, it makes it even tougher due to the extent of the inflation
Pdoggy said on 31/Oct/18
@JT
YouTube had a recent interview with Terry Todd that’s since been pulled where Todd said Andre was 7 feet.

Why didn't you post the interview when it was still available??
Boss said on 31/Oct/18
Billy Batts said on 29/Oct/18
Andre 6'9" peak height. His boots and afro added a few more inches. It was his sheer mass and bulk which made him standout. Back in the 60s and 70s there weren't many huge guys in wrestling. Guys 6'4" and over were few and far between so Andre was truly one of a kind in that era. In today's era with guys like Big Show, Kane, Khali, Strowman, etc he would just be another big guy.

Andre was and always will be The Giant. His massive overall size and features would always make him stand out no matter who he was next to or what era he was in. Wilt Chamberlin who is a giant in his own right looks like a toothpick beside Andre. His head was one of the largest heads in human history. Andre is what people picture in there heads when they hear the word giant.
Boss said on 30/Oct/18
Maybe this was an early morning measurement but it's the most detailed account of Andre ever actually being measured.

Click Here
Editor Rob
In shoes I can believe that, but barefoot I am not so sure.
RP said on 30/Oct/18
I agree with Canson...Sotiris makes a lot of good points & brings some great evidence to the table. And as a 5’11” man
When I walk by a 6’4.5” to 6’5” man, I can be like “wow, he’s a big dude, must be 6’5” or 6’6” ?? While Sotiris as a 6’7” man can walk by a 6’4” to 6’5” man and get a more accurate & precise eyeball measurement of them & be able to say, “nah, he’s more like 6’4.5” rather than 6’5” & change to 6’6”.
JT said on 30/Oct/18
Click Here Piper’s on a platform with Kareem if it’s not obvious.

A pic of Andre in the Bigfoot costume I have not seen before. Click Here Would be interesting to know if Ted Cassidy wore that same costume when he played the character in a subsequent Six Million Dollar Man and if so whether the suit had to be altered. Cassidy was listed as 6’9” in college but looked 6’7”ish in Beverly Hillbillies and I Dream of Jeanie.

YouTube had a recent interview with Terry Todd that’s since been pulled where Todd said Andre was 7 feet. Andre’s at least 7-8 inches taller than Todd though. With that large a height gap, Todd’s estimate is basically reduced to a guess unless he’s got photos standing side by side with Andre and Andre’s not in cowboy boots. Chet Coppock and Chuck Wepner are 3-4 inches taller than Todd and would be in a better position to estimate Andre’s height than Todd, although there would still be some speculation on their part too.
Billy Batts said on 29/Oct/18
Andre 6'9" peak height. His boots and afro added a few more inches. It was his sheer mass and bulk which made him standout. Back in the 60s and 70s there weren't many huge guys in wrestling. Guys 6'4" and over were few and far between so Andre was truly one of a kind in that era. In today's era with guys like Big Show, Kane, Khali, Strowman, etc he would just be another big guy.
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Oct/18
I guess I shoulda posted these two pics as well. Here's Andre next to Eric the Red (billed as 6'1) w/ Takahashi up front... Click Here

Here's 5'5" Takahashi next to Haystacks Calhoun in sandals (billed as 6'4"): Click Here

One more, just for the hell of it of Takahashi w/ Bad News Brown, Tito Santana, and Dusty Rhodes:
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Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Oct/18
Here's a nice pic I've never seen before of Andre w/ a young Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart sans facial hair:
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Here's a photo of Andre and Don Leo Jonathan (maybe 6'5") from 1972 that I've previously posted, only bigger... Click Here And another for the 1st time... Click Here

Andre (closer to camera, w/ what looks to be cowboy boots) and Rene Lasartesse (said to be 6'6"): Click Here




@Rob When will we see a section devoted to Ernie Ladd...?

Here's Ladd w/ Jack and Jerry Brisco, billed 6'0" and 6'2" respectively... Click Here

Here's Ladd as compared to 5'5" Takahashi... Click Here



Takahashi w/ Andre... Click Here

Takahashi w/ Hogan (and Stan Hansen)... Click Here , and here:
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W/ Iron Sheik... Click Here

W/ Nikolai Volkoff... Click Here
184guy2 said on 29/Oct/18
@Canson

Sotiris starts the arguments from assumptions , saying that someone is 1'' shorter than the reality to make other person shorter in comparsion . This isn't a fair game . Of course we still have a lot of upgraders here .
Canson said on 29/Oct/18
@184guy: I don’t think Sotiris is deliberately shaving an inch off of all the celebs. That’s prob just how he perceives their heights. You see people like Johnson also making comments such as “I assess them at morning heights” and he inflates everyone that he comments on
Pdoggy said on 28/Oct/18
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Pdoggy said on 27/Oct/18
Thank you Boss.
As for Andre’s height, he was a good 7′ early in his career, and maybe a bit more, but age, a terrible back, and gravity brought him “down” a peg or two.

I remembered that in this email Terry Toddy did not Kayfabe. The SI article he said 7'4".

So there you have it.... again.
Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Oct/18
How tall was Tex McKenzie (billed as 6'9")? Here he is w/ Andre... Click Here

Here he is next to the ropes to gauge height... Click Here
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Here's Tex w/ Haystacks Calhoun (billed as 6'4") and Mario Milano (billed as 6'5"):
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Mario Milano next to ropes... Click Here
Milano w/ Red Bastein (billed as 6'2")... Click Here



Here's 5'9" Mil Mascaras (billed 5'11") w/ Giant Baba (and Dory Funk Jr.)... Click Here
As compared to Mascaras and Andre... Click Here

Andre w/ 5'9" Pedro Morales... Click Here

Gorilla Monsoon w/ Pedro... not looking very tall... Click Here

Gorilla does look tall in this group shot, though... Click Here

Pedro Morales w/ Mil Mascaras and 5'11" Victor Rivera (billed 6'1")... Click Here
Morales and Rivera... Click Here
Pdoggy said on 26/Oct/18
Just too many pics where Andre is standing in front of a doorway in a doorway that is definitely a traditional doorway and Andres head the top of Andres head is above the 2 in trim that is around the six-foot-nine doorway.
Again normal doors in the U.S. are 80 to 81 inches. The doorway must be taller to accommodate the door. Andre's head is above the trim. So there goes any chance of a peak Andre under 7'.

The pic from Andre's house in France was certainly not a traditional doorway however so many others were.
62B said on 25/Oct/18
@ Sotiris. The Andre by the door pictures are interesting. Not optimal because Andre isn't standing with the best posture or square with the door in any of the pictures. That being said, the last picture it looks like Andre could be 7'1" in his boots and to me is the best of the three. The first picture looks to have the most severe angle and the second picture Andre is dropping his shoulder a pretty good amount. 7'1" in boots probably means a little under 7' barefoot. Again its a picture with lots of variables that would have to be taken into consideration. Just look at the locker room pictures JT posted a few days ago. They are a pretty good example of how a few inches and different angles can add or subtract a few inches.
184guy2 said on 25/Oct/18
@Sotiris Gravas
Please , stop shaving everyone 1 inch

Mike Rotumda AKA IRS wasn't 6'1 , he was at least 6'2
Look him with strong 6'3er peak Ted Dibiase:
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Now before you try to downgrade Ted Dibiase , ask to @62B how tall he looked in person ...

Him with Barry Windham , Hillbilly Jim and Hogan
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No 6'1 man would look that tall beside 6'5 range guys
Boss said on 25/Oct/18
Chett Coppock was same height as Hulk Hogan and Andre was a half foot taller than Hogan. Hogan stood next to Andre all the time but Chett Coppock who was Hogan's height was told not too. Doesn't make any sense.
Pdoggy said on 25/Oct/18
Andre sure looks 7' easy with Jay Strongbow. Andre is not standing straight Jay is and Andre looks great there.
Boss said on 25/Oct/18
terry todd, July 12, 2010:

JT,

I just became aware of your post and thought I’d respond. I agree that the Big Show of ten years ago would be very close to Mark in shoulder breadth. I saw him many times during that period and he was truly broad–and also very strong in his shoulders even though he didn’t push it in the gym even then. Regarding his hand size relative to Andre’s, having been around both quite often I have to disagree as I believe Andre’s hands were significantly wider than Big Show’s–just as
Andre’s feet were much larger in both length and width than Show’s.

I agree with your general points about Howard, although he’s so much wider than almost all of the other NBA big men that his measurement would be interesting to see–although not up in the Henry, Williams, and Show category. As for Andre’s height, he was a good 7′ early in his career, and maybe a bit more, but age, a terrible back, and gravity brought him “down” a peg or two. I saw him on several occasions when he weighed over 500 pounds, but I also saw him in Georgia shortly after he cam down from Canada and I suspect he was within 15 pounds of 400, one way or the other. This was about 40 years ago; I went backstage to meet him, interview him, and take a few photos with him. I still recall how “inhuman” he looked and how amazingly agile he was. For example, at one point in the match he ran across the ring, jumped over the top rope, caught the top rope in one hand for contril as he went over, and landed on the floor just outside the ring.

JT, May 29, 2010:

Dr. Todd,

If you have the opportunity, your getting some shoulder, wrist and hand measurements of Paul Wight (wrestler Big Show) could be revealing. He’s probably close to Mark Henry’s width.
Wight back in 1999-2000 was arguably wider than he is now. His hands are also about as wide as Andre the Giant’s were but not as long. Like Wight and Andre, Dalip Singh (wrestler Great Khali) has a huge frame and hands as well due to acromegaly/gigantism and is the tallest of the three.

A shoulder measurement of Dwight Howard sounds interesting but would probably be disappointing. With television screens now in the 16:9 format, everyone looks wider than they really are. If you switch the screen to the old 4:3 format, Howard still looks wide but not quite as impressive. His square (rather than sloped) shoulders and narrow waist also add to the illusion of width. At a legit 6’10”, he’s still a remarkable athlete.

I really enjoyed your SI article about Andre the Giant. As Andre has since passed away, can you share some insight on his real height and overall size? After factoring in the afro and cowboy boots that he almost always wore outside the ring, my best guess is that he was actually closer to 6’10” and probably around 425-450 lbs. when you interviewed him. Wight is roughly 7’0” (he was listed as 7’1” as a center for Wichita State) and generally looks at least 2 inches taller when standing next to the same people that Andre did (or when standing next to persons of the same height that Andre did). Thanks!
Billy Batts said on 24/Oct/18
Andre 6'9"
Studd 6'5.5"
Hogan 6'4.5"
Uncle Elmer 6'7
Hilbilly Jim 6'3.75"
oRiOn said on 24/Oct/18
He looked about 7'0 at his peak.
Sotiris Gravas said on 24/Oct/18
How was Chris Taylor really 6'5"?! look at him next to Dusty Rhodes... Click Here Taylor is even closer to the camera.
Andre and Chris Taylor in the mid-'70s... Click Here
How tall was Rhodes at his peak, 5'11"?

Dusty and 6'1" IRS... Click Here for comparison

Dusty and 5'9" Bruno Sammartino... Click Here

Dusty and The Godwins... Click Here "Mideon" on the right was billed as 6'3". I stood next to him back in 1997 (he was in construction boots, so looked taller)


Dusty and Andre next to a door in 1976... Click Here , Click Here ,
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 24/Oct/18
Here's a nice pic of Andre (closer to camera) and Bill Anderson from back in 1974 that I've never seen before... Click Here Anderson was never 6'2". He was around 6'0", but even looked 5'11" in some pics. Compare w/ Anderson and Big Show... Click Here If I'm not mistaken, Show is in Wrestling boots.


Here's some more Anderson pics I haven't seen... Here he looks about 5'11" next to Vince in this big photo... Click Here


Anderson and little maybe 5'9" Chris Jericho in this big photo... Click Here

W/ Hercules (Billed as 6'1")... Click Here

W/ Bruiser Brody (billed as 6'8" LOL!)... Click Here

W/ The Road Warriors... Click Here

W/ The Sheik... Click Here


I've seen this one before, but here's a big pic of Anderson and Big Boss Man:
Click Here Was Boss Man as low as 6'2"? Click Here

Big one of Anderson and OJ... Click Here
Gregory McCray said on 24/Oct/18
JT you are wasting your time trying to contact Terry Todd...he died July 7, 2018.
Sotiris Gravas said on 23/Oct/18
I just saw that I screwed up the Bruno Sammartino/Dean Ho pic... Here it really is (I hope):
Click Here The guy on the right is, of course, 5'10" Chief Jay Strongbow (billed as 6'0") as seen here again w/ Andre... Click Here

Bruno looks about 5'9" (closer to camera) next to Strongbow... Click Here

Strongbow w/ Larry Zybszko (billed 5'11")... Click Here

Strongbow w/ 5'9" Pedro Morales... Click Here


Nice Bill Watts pic, JT.
JT said on 23/Oct/18
62B said on 22/Oct/18
…Any chance you can post your Q@A with Terry Todd?

I emailed him from an old work account I don’t have access to any more and can’t screen cap. I posted his comments on this site. I can't recall if he estimated Andre’s actual height but did believe Andre’s hands were larger than Big Shows. Someone posted a link here years ago where Todd admitted that Andre was actually under 7’0” even though he stuck with 7'4" for the Sports Illustrated article.
RP said on 23/Oct/18
Chet Coppock Looked 1.25” to maybe 1.5” taller than Michael Jordan.
62B said on 22/Oct/18
JT said on 20/Oct/18
Here’s Chet Coppock’s email to me where he said Andre was around 3 inches taller than him and that the WWF officials asked him to not stand too close to Andre. Click Here Coppock with Dominique Wilkens, who’s around 6’7”. Click Here John Studd was a good inch shorter than Rick Barry (bottom right), who was also around 6’7”. Bill Russell was probably a strong 6’9” at this point.
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Any chance you can post your Q@A with Terry Todd?
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Oct/18
@Vegas I agree that heights are inflated in the NHL; same goes for the NFL... As for Chara, I think 6'9" is a morning height.


@Gretz Glad you liked the hockey pics, dude. I agree that they were barefoot, especially for 6'1" Esposito.


Here's Tony Garea (billed 6'1") w/ Dean Ho (billed as 6'0" LOL) and Andre back in 1973... Click Here
Garea and Ho... Click Here Ho is not very tall.

I think Bruno Sammartino and Dean Ho were about 5'9", Here they are together, Bruno closer to camera:
Click Here


Garea with Larry Zbyszko (billed 5'11") ... Click Here , Click Here They look about the same height.

Finally, I don't think Coppock was more than 6'5"... 6'6" was most likely his shoe height.
Here's a recent pic of Coppock w/ Reggie Theus (peak height 6'5", listed as 6'7")... Click Here
JT said on 22/Oct/18
Speaking of Lesnar, Shaq and the hockey players Click Here Lesnar’s in cowboy boots with Shaq.

Gretz said on 18/Oct/18
…..So in stead of trying to steal a half inch by tipping why didn`t he simply wear better than flat healed souls,give me a break.

Andre tried the big boots when he was young Click Here Even back in the early 1970s, he started looking pretty uncoordinated and cumbersome in the ring so that may be why he stopped using them. As Roel’s comarison photo shows, he probably gained around an inch with modest tip toes (e.g., in the pics with Fuller, Keirn, Rick Martel, David Von Erich...) and over two inches in full tip toe mode with the two promoters, Missing Link (Dewey Robertson).....

Sotiris Gravas said on 20/Oct/18
….Here's a color photo of a B&W pic I already posted of tippy-toe action... Click Here

Here’s Bill Watts with the same two promoters Click Here Watts was billed at 6’3” in wrestling and listed as 6’2” in football. Watts better be wearing cowboy boots here Click Here

BTW, for the Gonzalez/Napolitano photo, that came from a website that said (incorrectly) the individual was Billy Crystal, which is why I scaled the ruler that way. Regardless, both he and Napolitano are probably the same height (~ 5’6”).

Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 18/Oct/18
Interesting. Andre had cowboy boots on and host Don Lane is only 6'4 not 6'6-6'7.
Click Here this interview was likely in the mid 80s.

That was 1978. Lane had cowboy boots on too Click Here Still unclear who this guy is with Lane Click Here (it’s not Chris Greener - agree with Chaz as the nose is too small and he's too short) although he’s significantly taller than Andre.
Pdoggy said on 22/Oct/18
@JT
How does the Tony Garea interview prove anything??

Because you say Garea looked a certain height with Larry Z??

You need to do better than that.
Vegas' said on 21/Oct/18
Sotiris, I don't follow NHL but is pretty obvious alot of the players in that league are overlisted. Chara looks nowhere near 6'9 with Shaq. Blake wheeler is listed 6'5 with Lesnar (6'3 in dress-shoes) Click Here Dustin Byfuglien also listed 6'5 looked similar height as Lesnar in sandals.

As for doors they can be any height especially in Europe. I have seen doors no more than 6 foot in really old buildings and have a photo next to what is probably 6'2 front door on my old nokia phone (see if I can dig it up)
Gretz said on 21/Oct/18
Gravas i don`t know how you find these pics,but thank you so much for posting them.(I am a huge hockey fan and know all these bruins guys you posted)But as far as height goes i am going to assume Andre has his cowboy boots on that probably give him at least 2 or more inches and some of the bruins have to be barefooted.He totally dwarfs 6'1"Esposito and the pic with Hull never seen that one but if there is a height you can document it`s his he has been tested many times with scientists.Unfortunatly we can`t see the footware in any pics and in the one with Hull he is looking down darn it.So i am not going to make an estimate here to me he certainly seems like a 7 footer there but it`s just speculation as they are not full body pics.But these pics are a treasure to me thank you Gravis!and Rob can we get a Gretzky(5'11" as a guess and Mario Lemieux 6'4.5" page please).
Sotiris Gravas said on 20/Oct/18
Here... Andre is described as 6'11"... Click Here , Click Here

Here he's described as 209cm tall in 1966, when Andre was 20 years old... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 20/Oct/18
For ppl who might think Andre was ever 7'4", or even 7'5"... Here's George Napolitano w/ 7'6" (not 7'7") Giant Gonzalez... Click Here

Compare that w/ Napolitano and Andre... Click Here (1974) , Click Here

Here's Napolitano w/ Studd... Click Here

Napolitano w/ Hogan nowadays... Click Here



Here's some more tiptoeing pics of Andre:
Both Andre and Eric the Red (billed as 6'1") are on their tippy toes. Takahashi (5'5") isn't: Click Here

Here's a color photo of a B&W pic I already posted of tippy-toe action... Click Here

Just for fun, here's Hogan and Honky Tonk Man getting into it as well... Click Here


Here's an Andre/Hogan pic I've never seen before... Click Here


Lastly, here's a nice group shot w/ Andre way in the back... Click Here
RP said on 20/Oct/18
@ Gretz,
Yeah Metzler was always contradicting himself. One week he’d say 6’9.75” for Andre...next week he’d claim 6’11.5”...6 months later he’d claim 6’9.75” again. Two years later he’d say 6’11.5” again.
Pdoggy said on 20/Oct/18
@Junior Hernandez
The Don Lane show was from 1978
Pdoggy said on 20/Oct/18
@Junior Hernandez
Yes Andre does have boots on but so does Don. I really don't see a great point to compare heights. What is interesting to me is he doesn't say 7'4 he says 7'or in excess of 7'.
JT said on 20/Oct/18
Tony Garea looked only a little taller than Larry Zbysko and Dino Bravo, so there goes any chance of a 6’5” Dick Graham. Click Here 6’5” Crush/Brian Adams and Garea at WM 9. Click Here

Halb said on 18/Oct/18
62b, well I forget the bloke's name! I did go and look back to see if I could find what I thought was posted, but everyone said the WM2 announcer said 6'10, which seems more reasonable at least, and it was only an estimate.

Here’s Chet Coppock’s email to me where he said Andre was around 3 inches taller than him and that the WWF officials asked him to not stand too close to Andre. Click Here Coppock with Dominique Wilkens, who’s around 6’7”. Click Here John Studd was a good inch shorter than Rick Barry (bottom right), who was also around 6’7”. Bill Russell was probably a strong 6’9” at this point.

I’d need to see more proof whether Coppock was a legit 6’6” or if that is a round up. Click Here I stood right next to Volkoff backstage at a WWF event that same year (1986) and he was around 6’2”. Of the wrestlers I saw backstage (JYD, SD Jones, Adrian Adonis, Corporal Kirschner), IIRC Volkoff was the only one who was not wearing cowboy boots.
Sotiris Gravas said on 19/Oct/18
Here are some more Andre/NHL pics:


W/ 6'1" Phil Esposito (perhaps barefoot here)... Click Here

W/ 5'11" Darryl Edestrand... Click Here

W/ 5'11" Dallas Smith (maybe barefoot here)... Click Here

Rare pic w/ 5'10" Bobby Hull... Click Here

W/ 5'10" Dave Forbes... Click Here

W/ 5'8" Ross Brooks... Click Here




Here's 21-year-old Andre at his parents' home in France... Click Here What height was that doorway...?

(Just for fun, here's an Ernie Ladd/doorway pic)... Click Here



Andre w/ 6'3" Baron Scicluna... Click Here


Andre w/ Eddie Marlin (billed as 6'0")... Click Here


Andre in a nice Superman tee w/ The Hangman... Click Here
Undertaker Frank said on 19/Oct/18
Halb That announcer i believe said Andre had about 3 inches on him and he was 6ft 6 i dont believe he said 6ft 10
Gretz said on 19/Oct/18
! read an article that all the back stage rumors were that Andre was 6'10.75" at W.M.3.someone had been measuring a door that Andre always passed,and for what it is worth it came out to that.And even though I think he peaked at 7'0" and a fraction(or maybe even 7'1" in the morning)so i can even buy this measurement against hulk.I even read an article were college students did an analysis of pixels And found Andre to be 5 inches taller than Hogan,now hulk had a slight foot ware advantage and it is not an exact measuring tool it still seems pretty close to me opinions?
RoelC said on 19/Oct/18
Halb said on 18/Oct/18
62b, well I forget the bloke's name! I did go and look back to see if I could find what I thought was posted, but everyone said the WM2 announcer said 6'10, which seems more reasonable at least, and it was only an estimate.
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Coppock estimated Andre about 3inches taller than himself.

Again, I've seen several height estimations for Andre by a wide range of people (wrestlers not included). Seeing as there are so many different estimations, I personally don't hold much value for a personal estimation.

The lowest height estimation I've seen for Andre was 6'8". A sports photographer estimated him at that height when he was in the Boston Bruins locker room back in 1974.

Andre's brothers both independently said Andre was 2m18. That's apparently also the height that was listed on Andre's passport.
62B said on 18/Oct/18
JT said on 17/Oct/18
tree said on 16/Oct/18
Lets say Andre was 7ft tall,i wonder how big he would looks next to 7ft8 Igor Vovorosky,someboy could make a comparison in photoshop?

Click Here Dr. Oz is supposedly 6’1” per that “other site” so I assumed he was 6’0”. Igor’s shoes are huge, including the heels, but still likely less than the boost given by Andre’s cowboy boots. As huge as Igor is, including his feet, his hands really don’t look acromegalic.
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JT. Regardless of the height difference, you know that even if Andre's cowboy boot heels are a little bigger, the toe is normal where this Igor's shoes are about the same from heel to toe giving him a more overall height boost. I think at at best the footwear would be negligible. FYI, I have no clue how tall Dr. Oz is
Gretz said on 18/Oct/18
I was looking at old Andre match results from 1971 and 1974,and in either of these years did I see one single match from France(mid-atlantic gateway by the way I will list my source unlike Meltzer).And I can`t find one match from france,I have U.S.A,Canada,Japan and even Australia.Wow looks like this measurement from this unknown athletic commission in France never happened,you know the one where they gave out private medical evidence that Andre was a mere 6'9.5".How could it have happened if he wasn`t in the flipping country.I have seen people that e-mailed him before and he won`t even tell you what city this happened in,or if this commission even still or if it ever existed.this is the internet era I can`t get an address or phone number to ask about this,it`s not top secret it`s a lie plain and simple.Meltzer himself says Andre is 6'11.5" in the Wilt pic,the problem is the story is a contrived piece of nonsense.I bet I could find the number of the new york state athletic commission,why is the one in france such a secret the war has been over for 73 years.
Gretz said on 18/Oct/18
Keirn,pic shows me nothing JT.even his right foot( and he has his less than 1/4 inch soules as far as i can aqueous)even his right foot looks on the ground to me.The left without question,this shows he wasn`t trying to gain height in the ring and that most guys where gaining a half inch or more against Andre for the most part(that includes Hulkster,even if it was unintentional.So in stead of trying to steal a half inch by tipping why didn`t he simply wear better than flat healed souls,give me a break.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 18/Oct/18
Interesting. Andre had cowboy boots on and host Don Lane is only 6'4 not 6'6-6'7.

Click Here this interview was likely in the mid 80s.
Halb said on 18/Oct/18
62b, well I forget the bloke's name! I did go and look back to see if I could find what I thought was posted, but everyone said the WM2 announcer said 6'10, which seems more reasonable at least, and it was only an estimate.
Gretz said on 18/Oct/18
62B,if you think Andre was 6'11"-7'0" at peak then we are very close here.In fact I might have to revise his estimate,and ironically it is because of Dave Meltzer?Because he just estimated in an article I read that he thought Ernie Ladd was 6'9.5".If it is correct I can only say hogan was 6'6"+ and you can add a half inch to anyone who is 6'8" or more.And put Andre at 7'0.5" even in 1975.it`s hard in there matches to get a good comparison but there is no way Andre does not have 3 inches on Ladd.I don`t have time now but i will get into this later,i had even stated in the last pics of Ladd that he looked a little taller than 6'9 to me.so maybe there is something to it thought I still don`t trust Meltzer.
tree said on 18/Oct/18
Hundreds of others I'm sure guessed him 6ft 11-7ft range, as much as those who guess him 7ft to 7ft 1 range.

I know rob i am just kidding lol
62B said on 17/Oct/18
Halb, no insult intended. a little sarcasm maybe. I doesn't matter to me how tall Andre was. I know he was taller than 6'9" 1n 1988 and I know he was significantly shorter than a mid 90's Rik Smits who I stood just as close to as I did Andre
Pdoggy said on 17/Oct/18
So let me get this straight we will accept and use pictures where the camera angle is so blatantly off but we will not use pictures where the camera angle is at a perfect distance setup in the middle both people are standing straight are within a few inches of each other those pics need to be thrown out and we need to use the pictures that are posted probably manipulated with people who are a foot and a half shorter I'm just not getting it.

Why post pics that have people not standing straight camera angle is from the floor I just don't understand what is gained by posting pictures of people slouching leaning way closer to the camera I don't understand what is gained by that.

We accept Chet Coppock's word but not Terry Todd?? Coppock was exactly the same height as Hogan. Anyone care to downgrade Dick Graham?? He is standing over 6'5 with Andre and he is in the middle of Andre's nose. The security guard is at Andre's eyebrow with a slight foot ware advantage putting him closer to 6'9. So how is the security guard 6'5??

WHEN ANDRE IS PICTURED WITH PEOPLE 6'8 TO 6'10 HE ALWAYS HAS INCHES ON THEM.

People need to realize Big Show was shorter than Andre. From Paul's own mouth he claims Andre was taller. Because this is what all the downgrading is about making sure that people believe that Andre was shorter than Big Show .Andre's page is the most commented and he passed away 25 years ago. People can't get enough Andre. He was beloved revered respected he was the man. Vince has been trying to come up with a new giant since Andre started to break down and they still haven't replaced him and they never will.
Halb said on 17/Oct/18
62B said on 16/Oct/18
Halb said on 15/Oct/18
Quite RoelC, there's the WM2 ring announcer (Chuck) who estimated André at 6'9 since they were so close in height, and in the same ring.
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I thought the story was that he thought Andre was 6'9 OR 10. And In the pictures that same 6'6" ring announcer looks a good 4" shorter. Another Story goes that Terry Todd (who has been just as close or closer as Chet Coppock was) says a young Andre was 7' or a little more and that he lost a "notch" or two when he was older. But you're so smart.
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his comments were posted here a while back, I thought it was 6'9. Chet has no bias and this was before any supposed 'height loss'. Please keep your insults to yourself, this doesn't help your argument.
tree said on 17/Oct/18
Click Here
Editor Rob
Hundreds of others I'm sure guessed him 6ft 11-7ft range, as much as those who guess him 7ft to 7ft 1 range.
62B said on 17/Oct/18
JT said on 16/Oct/18
Andre’s on his tip toes with Steve Keirn You can clearly see the shadow created by the edge of the boot which angles opposite the boot angle Click Here There would have been no gap between Andre’s boot and the shadow had he been standing flat-footed. The shadow from the left boot does not extend very far back, which is a dead giveaway that the left heel is also off the ground.

There are several pics of Andre on his tip toes which have been posted on this site over the years so this should not come as any surprise.

Andre and Christine Jarrett Click Here No clue about her height but she was apparently known as "Teeny". Same wall Andre is standing in front of here Click Here and Stan Frazier/Uncle Elmer here Click Here
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Pretty nice find with those pictures JT. Really shows what camera angles and distances can do. In the 1st picture the top of Andre's head appears to be into the 12th tile, but in the 2nd its about half way up the 11th. Uncle Elmer's appears to be just shy of the 12th tile in his picture. To bad Uncle Elmer didn't have a shot like Andre's 2nd picture. In the close up of Andres boots, to me it really just looks like maybe he is lifting up his back foot. Still doesn't look like he is on his tip toes.
JT said on 17/Oct/18
tree said on 16/Oct/18
Lets say Andre was 7ft tall,i wonder how big he would looks next to 7ft8 Igor Vovorosky,someboy could make a comparison in photoshop?

Click Here Dr. Oz is supposedly 6’1” per that “other site” so I assumed he was 6’0”. Igor’s shoes are huge, including the heels, but still likely less than the boost given by Andre’s cowboy boots. As huge as Igor is, including his feet, his hands really don’t look acromegalic.
62B said on 16/Oct/18
Halb said on 15/Oct/18
Quite RoelC, there's the WM2 ring announcer (Chuck) who estimated André at 6'9 since they were so close in height, and in the same ring.
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I thought the story was that he thought Andre was 6'9 OR 10. And In the pictures that same 6'6" ring announcer looks a good 4" shorter. Another Story goes that Terry Todd (who has been just as close or closer as Chet Coppock was) says a young Andre was 7' or a little more and that he lost a "notch" or two when he was older. But you're so smart.
62B said on 16/Oct/18
Gretz, what the heck. lol, Generally I feel Andre was peak between 6'11" and 7'. Most likely if he did hit 7' it was earlier in the day. That's my opinion for Andre's peak height. As for the tip toe photo's. I promise you I have no desperate argument to make Andre any shorter or taller than he was. I just said I thought a few of the shown photo's showed Andre on his toes. Maybe its an optical illusion. I also feel some of them are wishful thinking by the people who posted them.
Prusso said on 16/Oct/18
@undertaker Frank no he doesn't. Hogan and Wepner came halfway up Andre's nose when he had good posture. Just like Dick Graham. 6'5 to 6'6 middle of Andre's nose again with good posture peak. Eyebrows was 6'8 to 6'9. Baba was a little higher than that. Ed Jones would be in that same eyebrow area. Andre needs to be standing straight otherwise things change drastically.
Gretz said on 16/Oct/18
Wow that`s amazing frank how you can say an unknown security gauard who is listed as 6'8",and just decide in you mind he was 6'5".And he is not even in the pic with the guys you are talking about.Do you have godlike height powers or something,i think not you only have the power of having a big head.
Gretz said on 16/Oct/18
roelC it`s odd every pic you show has Andre`s left foot slightly off the ground ,but his right foot is solidly on the ground.This means he gains no height at all,Maybe his left foot was bothering him at the time.But it gains him nothing and why dosen`t he do it next to guys 6'8" and taller?when he pours champagne on hogan in that 1984 back stage vidieo he sure isn`t tip toing and looks a strong 6 inches at least taller than the new champ.
JT said on 16/Oct/18
Andre’s on his tip toes with Steve Keirn You can clearly see the shadow created by the edge of the boot which angles opposite the boot angle Click Here There would have been no gap between Andre’s boot and the shadow had he been standing flat-footed. The shadow from the left boot does not extend very far back, which is a dead giveaway that the left heel is also off the ground.

There are several pics of Andre on his tip toes which have been posted on this site over the years so this should not come as any surprise.

Andre and Christine Jarrett Click Here No clue about her height but she was apparently known as "Teeny". Same wall Andre is standing in front of here Click Here and Stan Frazier/Uncle Elmer here Click Here
Pdoggy said on 16/Oct/18
With what is known of Andre's personality he probably did the raising of his foot as a joke with shorter people. Otherwise he did not need to do it to gain height. It would make more sense to do it with Fuller, Elmer, Baba,the 6'8" officer etc.....he didn't explain that. The point of the raised foot was that he did it to save face with Fulller. He didn't. Then it was Fuller is 6'7 not 6'9 in shoes. Oh how the nay sayers wish there was a pic with too tall. Bull as soon as we discover one they will downgrade Ed Jones as well.
Undertaker Frank said on 16/Oct/18
Pdoggy i dont believe that cop is 6ft 8 because he looks the same height as Chuck Wepner & Hogan did next to Andre i would say 6ft 5 for that cop IMHO
tree said on 16/Oct/18
The guy who takes the interview is supposodly 6ft tall,now 6ft guys always reached atleast andres chin
tree said on 16/Oct/18
Lets say Andre was 7ft tall,i wonder how big he would looks next to 7ft8 Igor Vovorosky,someboy could make a comparison in photoshop?
Igor was 6ft tall at the age of 6,i wonder how strong he was at that age,just think about it 6ft tall but weak as a little kid Click Here
62B said on 15/Oct/18
@RoelC. I can tell you this. I have worked with two 6'9 guys in my life and seen several others. There was a 6'9" guy in the motor pool the same time I saw Andre. I know Andre was taller than 6'9"
62B said on 15/Oct/18
@RoelC. I understand people being skeptical of a personal encounter. But yes, I have always been height conscience, maybe not quite like today, but I payed attention to things like shoes.
Gretz said on 15/Oct/18
62B,i have seen every pic where Andre is supposed to be tip towing,shadow and foot position seem to make it look that way in some .In one his foot is against the cinder block wall and his heel looks a little higher because of it,but i don`t think it changes his height as the another foot is solidly on the ground.i have an idea let`s have JT enhance the pic to prove andre is tip toing .25 inches,there is no space between his heel and the floor And these guys are what 5'10" to 6'0".you don`t do this with guys that are a foot shorter than you(would you tip toe to gain height against your 10 year old nephew?)he certainly isn`t doing it in the wilt pics,if at any time I would think it would be there.and try to tip toe a .25 of an inch it`s hard for me to maintain that posture for more than a 1/4 second.Imagine 500 lbs. Andre trying to do it he would stumble to the floor.Now maybe he could maintain that if he tip towed 2.5 3 inches,fora short time before he stumbled.and check the pic with Andre and Wahoo(a controversial poster named Jason,probably the most infamous poster ever swore Andre was tip toeing because he looked every bit of 7'0" in this pic.Check it i posted it 10 years ago he is doing nothing of the sort again ask Danimal we talked about this subject 10 years ago.Take your desperate out of date argument and go home.
RoelC said on 15/Oct/18
Andre did have a habit of occasionally standing on his toes (or slightly lifting his heels) while taking a backstage pic with other wrestlers.

Here are 2 pretty clear cases of Andre standing on his toes.
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He's also slightly lifting his heels of the ground in the pic with Steve Keirn. You can tell by the shadows.
Click Here

Here are 2 pics of Andre standing inbetween Steve Keirn & Mike Graham.
Click Here (with his feet flat on the ground)
Click Here (with his heels slightly lifted)

Photoshop the 2 images together and you see the result.
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In the pic with Ron Fuller its less obvious if he's slightly lifting his heels. But I have to agree with JT that there's something fishy with that pic. Ron Fuller's head is simply too small.
Halb said on 15/Oct/18
Quite RoelC, there's the WM2 ring announcer (Chuck) who estimated André at 6'9 since they were so close in height, and in the same ring.
RoelC said on 15/Oct/18
62B said on 11/Oct/18
@ RoelC. The biggest problem I have with a peak Andre being 6'10" to 6'10.5" is that he was at least that tall when I saw him in 1988. I know time of day and the fact that he was most likely in his orthopedic shoes factor in when I saw him, but I initially thought he was 7' when he stood straight up. If he truly peaked at 6'10" or so then he couldn't have lost any height by 1988. JT, I have to agree with Pdoggy about the tip toe thing. I think maybe you are being fooled by shadows in that picture. Andre doesn't appear to be intentionally trying to make himself appear taller, his toes aren't bent at all and he is leaning down a little resting his arm on Keirns shoulder.
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No offense 62B, but I don't think a personal encounter with Andre is any solid evidence of his height.
Especially considering the heights that are given for Andre from various people outside the world of pro-wrestling range from 6'8" to well over 7ft tall. It goes to show you how tough it was to accurately estimate Andre's height.

Your encounter with Andre happened 30 years ago. Back then it wasn't as well known that Andre wasn't 7'4" as it is today. Were you really that height conscious back then as you are today? I know I'm not. Through this site I learned a great deal about how to estimate people's heights. Before that, I never really paid attention to postures, footwear, camera angles, etc.

Also you're much shorter than Andre, so I'd be surprised if you could accurately estimate Andre's height in person down to an inch.
62B said on 14/Oct/18
@Gretz. A few of those tip toe pics appear to be legit
62B said on 14/Oct/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 12/Oct/18
If this mattress is 75 inches long... how tall is Andre on this bed? Click Here
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A lot of variables. One Andres appears to have his arms against the wall propping up his head a little so his head could really be past the top of the mattress a little. Two, how far off the edge of the bed are his feet hanging? I did a search for wrestling boot height and found a company advertising their boot as 16" tall, so I think Andre's feet could be hanging over by 10".Three is that a true 75" twin mattress? Or is it a twin XL that would be 80". It looks like it would be the 75" from the picture, but maybe Andre is just making it look small. Personally if its a 75" mattress 7' looks possible for Andre.
Pdoggy said on 14/Oct/18
Yes Gravas in that pic you just posted on 1o/13 his right foot is off the ground. That looks nothing like the other pics that were noted. You can see his boot is higher. I don't know what is gained by it, but I do see it in that pic. However not in the Fuller pic.
62B said on 14/Oct/18
@JT. Rob Fuller was listed at 6'5". He seems to stack up to Andre about the same as a young 6'3" Ted Dibiase did. At least in the picture you provided
Pdoggy said on 14/Oct/18
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Again Andre pictured with a relaxed posture someone who is 6 foot 8 to 6 foot 9 in Footwear comes out right around his eyebrows proves once again Andre is at least 7 ft or more.

Thankfully it's not a picture with him with somebody who is 5 foot 6 or 5 foot 7 he's much closer in height to Andre. Much easier to gauge a few inches rather a foot and a half.
Gretz said on 13/Oct/18
Andre is not tip toeing in any of these pics,i can see no space between his heel and the floor.the levels that people go to shrink him is remarkable.In the pic with martel and his partner his heel is mearly closer to the wall.Give me a break he can tiptoe what a 1/4 of an inch you can either tiptoe like 2+ inches or you can`t,and this is with short people why i would think if he would try this it would be in the wilt pics.So get a life guys it`s just not true.the consensus is he was 7'0'Rob has him listed at the 7 foot mark.I remember JaSON years ago said Andre looked 7'0" next to Wahoo Mcdaniel but said he was tip toeing,they both had cowboy boots on and if you check the pic he`s not.Can you really do a 1/4 inch tip at 475+ I think not,but you guys that think Andre was 6'10" peak have been losing for a long time so anything you come up with is a desperate thing.
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Oct/18
Here's yet another Andre pic we can file under the rubric of "Tippy Toes"... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 12/Oct/18
If this mattress is 75 inches long... how tall is Andre on this bed? Click Here
Pdoggy said on 12/Oct/18
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Pdoggy said on 12/Oct/18
Someone needs to find a pic from WrestleMania 2 with Andre and Too Tall. That way people get begin downgrading Too Tall as well.
Pdoggy said on 11/Oct/18
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At the 20 second mark you can see just how much taller Andre is than Dick Graham who undoubtedly has a footwear advantage and that awful toupee. 6'5 Dick Graham.

There are also points in the interview where Andre lowers that huge noggin and can appear much shorter.
JT said on 11/Oct/18
Robert Fuller with Ron Fuller and Robert with Andre Click Here Robert looked around 6’2” in WCW and that’s about how a 6’2” guy measures up to Andre (around 3 inches below eye level). Robert has big heels on here with Ron so he’s maybe 6’4” in shoes with Ron looking 6’7”-6’8” in wrestling boots

Sotiris, I read somewhere that Ed Carpentier (a former gymnast) was 5’7”. He doesn’t look any taller than that here Click Here Click Here With Andre Click Here
62B said on 11/Oct/18
@ RoelC. The biggest problem I have with a peak Andre being 6'10" to 6'10.5" is that he was at least that tall when I saw him in 1988. I know time of day and the fact that he was most likely in his orthopedic shoes factor in when I saw him, but I initially thought he was 7' when he stood straight up. If he truly peaked at 6'10" or so then he couldn't have lost any height by 1988. JT, I have to agree with Pdoggy about the tip toe thing. I think maybe you are being fooled by shadows in that picture. Andre doesn't appear to be intentionally trying to make himself appear taller, his toes aren't bent at all and he is leaning down a little resting his arm on Keirns shoulder.
RP said on 11/Oct/18
Fuller...6’6.75” barefoot ...6’8” in footwear ...From all evidence I’ve seen.
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Oct/18
@Undertaker Frank Wow! Thanks. I'm surprised anyone thinks that, given that I once thought Andre was shorter than 6'10". Pics like this made me think he wasn't soooo tall:
Click Here

Here are some more Andre/Hogan pics where Andre really doesn't look that tall next to a 6'4.5" Hogan:
Click Here , Click Here Of course, Andre's bad posture doesn't help matters...


Putting Andre next to a short guy obviously helps accentuate his height, as seen here w/ Rick "Quick Draw" McGraw (billed as 5'7", but was probably more like 5'6")... Click Here




AS FOR ANDRE ON HIS TIPPY TOES IN SOME PICS:

Sometimes, Andre does try to tiptoe pics, like this one w/ a young Rick Martel:
Click Here, which I previously posted. I do think he was doing it w/ Ron Fuller, and the pic w/ David Von Erich. I think he's even doing it a little bit here... Click Here
Pdoggy said on 10/Oct/18
In February 1966 footage Andre claims 2 meters 10 which basically is 6ft 10.66 inches it is definitely possible that he grew a couple more inches after that because he had just turned 20 very feasible he actually does look smaller there because he's so much younger, thinner and it's obvious he is still timid and shy.
RoelC said on 9/Oct/18
62B said on 7/Oct/18
@ RoelC, the Hurricanes had him listed at 6'8" between 1968 and 1970. Just don't know if that is a shoe listing or barefoot. I'm sure he was at least 6'7". In that picture with Andre its hard to tell what footwear advantage he may have, probably a 1/2" or more. I think with that particular picture its hard to put Andre under 6'10.5". If Fuller was 6'8" Then I think Andre would come out to around 6'11.5" possibly even 7'.
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Yeah I knew he was listed 6'8" in college basketball. He was in his early 20's back then, so that's about the max height he could've been (as college basketball tends to exaggerate the height of its players more often than not).

Seriously he doesn't look that tall to me. With the camera tilt corrected Fuller comes up to Andre's eyebrows. That would put him in the same height range as Big John Studd. And Studd looked no more than 6'6" based on how he measured up against 6'7" Rick Barry and 6'5" Bill Fralic.


Fuller could be taller if Andre is indeed standing on his tippy toes or if Andre is indeed leaning forward. But that doesn't do anything for Andre's height. People who see a 6'8-6'9" Ron Fuller in that pic are ignoring the pics of Andre next to guys like Hogan, Studd, Wepner, Dick Graham, Don Leo Jonathan, Giant Baba, etc.


Here's Fuller next to ~6'5" David von Erich.
Click Here
Doesn't seem to be much difference between the two.
Pdoggy said on 9/Oct/18
Furthermore why would he go up on toes with Steve Keirn then tilt his head as well?? Dude everything isn't a conspiracy.
Pdoggy said on 9/Oct/18
@Jt

What are you talking about??

There is no bend in his shoe at all. With a size 20+ shoe Andre would be far taller if he was actually up on his toes.

Honestly does it matter that much to you that you will flat out make things up?? I know Vince had him stand on boxes but when we can see everything and you still want to just fabricate a solution to why he is looking over 7'.

What is gained from that?? 7'4" myth debunked long ago but really how many more people over 6'8" does he need to be pictured with to make it stick?? His Legacy is set in stone, nothing will change that.
Pdoggy said on 9/Oct/18
@Tree
What I meant was everyone says when someone is closer to the camera they have an advantage. I did not mean that everyone has commented on this pic.
JT said on 9/Oct/18
Andre’s on his tip toes here with Steve Keirn and the boot angles look similar to the pic with Fuller. Click Here In contrast Andre standing flat footed with Debbie Harry Click Here Her head comes out about as big as Fuller’s so he either has the head size of a 5’3” woman or is farther from the camera.
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Oct/18
Andre w/ Edouard Carpentier (billed 5'10") was maybe 5'9" peak height... Click Here
(Guy on the left is Yvon Robert Jr.)
Another pic of Andre w/ Carpentier... Click Here

Here's Carpentier w/ Maurice Vachon (billed 5'7") back in 2003... Click Here

Here's Vachon and Verne Gagne (billed 5'11")#TippyToes... Click Here
Gagne was shorter than 5'11".
Keep that in mind when comparing Gagne to Andre.. Click Here
Gagne and Vince (leaning in) back in 2006... Click Here

Verne and 5'9" Pedro Morales (billed 5'10")... Click Here
Morales and Andre... Click Here
Verne Bruno Sammartino and Andre... Click Here
Sammartino (closer to camera) and Morales... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Oct/18
I already posted a pic of 5'10" Bobby Hull w/ Andre, but here's a BIG one I found:
Click Here
Pdoggy said on 8/Oct/18
@JT
Thank you.

I don't see how anyone could say he is under 7' in this pic.
I definitely don't see tippy toes though. Does anyone else??
Undertaker Frank said on 8/Oct/18
Sotiris, I have to admit your Guesses on Heights might be the most accurate on here !!!
I tip my hat too you
tree said on 8/Oct/18
Everybody says?U are the first to comment on it and he looks 1.5 inch taller but he may be closer.
Kunoichi said on 8/Oct/18
Real World Tag League Opening Event 1983

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184guy2 said on 8/Oct/18
@JT
I believe Barry was just under 6'5 or 6'5 on the dot , while Hogan was a fraction over . Blackjack for sure was taller his son Barry . He probably was 6'5 and change , like Hogan
JT said on 7/Oct/18
Camera tilt in favor of Fuller, which I corrected here Click Here Looking at Andre’s right heel, he may be on his tippy toes. Fuller’s head is still too small for them to be standing side by side. The feet are pretty close but it could be Fuller leaning back and/or Andre leaning forward. Looks like Fuller has dress shoes on.

This was the best I could match up Barry Windham and Fuller from their match in Japan Click Here Windham and Sid Click Here

Blackjack Mulligan was listed as 6’4” when he played semi-pro football and referred to as 6’5” when he was drafted by the NY Jets. Click Here The lowest I would ever go for Barry Windham is 6’4”. He was basically Hogan’s height in the mid-1980s. Click Here (at 4:40 if the video does not jump to that spot).
Pdoggy said on 7/Oct/18
tree said on 6/Oct/18
We can se from the Bugner VS Wepner fight that Chuck was defintley not 6ft6.

WHAT!!!

The pic shows 2 inch difference and like everybody says Wepner doesn't have the camera advantage. What are you looking at??

Tree I respectfully disagree.
62B said on 7/Oct/18
@ RoelC, the Hurricanes had him listed at 6'8" between 1968 and 1970. Just don't know if that is a shoe listing or barefoot. I'm sure he was at least 6'7". In that picture with Andre its hard to tell what footwear advantage he may have, probably a 1/2" or more. I think with that particular picture its hard to put Andre under 6'10.5". If Fuller was 6'8" Then I think Andre would come out to around 6'11.5" possibly even 7'.
Pdoggy said on 7/Oct/18
Don't look now but here come the downgrades on Ron Fuller again.

The reason I believe Ron Fuller is at 6'9 is how he lines up to Andre compared to how Baba does, uncle elmer does, Tyler Mane does etc.

There are many people who Andre has been pictured with who are all in that 6'8 to 6'10 range. Andre comes out at 7' or better in all of them. The issue with the posters who believe Andre is under 7' is that they still want him to look like a traditional 7 footer does next to a 6' tall person. Who cares what he looks like next to a 6 footer. When we have so many pics with people in that higher range.

The pic with Ron Fuller is more proof of the size of Andre's head. I posted about this weeks back. Their chin level starts at the same spot but the TOP of Andre's head is 4 inches higher than Ron's. Even their shoulder level is similar. Andre's incredible mass made him look bigger but took away from his actual height.

I guarantee that if there was a pic posted of Andre and Too Tall Jones people would start downgrading Jones as well. Because Andre was taller than 6'9 by far. I think I've heard that somewhere....
miko said on 7/Oct/18
Hogan was 6'5/6'5.25 and Andre was 5 inches taller from the late 70's to the late 80's.

If Andre was ever 7 foot then Hogan was 6'7, which as we all know is crazy.
tree said on 7/Oct/18
When Andre isnt standing on a box with Vince Click Here
Too bad he wasn't this tall Click Here

But this would have been to much bad mobilty and more back injuries he lookes like 7ft7 here,taller than his billed height Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/Oct/18
Andre (closer to camera) w/ billed 6'2" Tony Atlas... Click Here

Andre (closer to camera) w/ 6'2.5" Vader (billed 6'5")... Click Here

Andre w/ 6'2.5" Ali... Click Here


Ali and Atlas... Click Here

Vader and Atlas in 1992... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/Oct/18
@Vegas' Wow! Great pic of Shaq w/ Chara... Shaq is closer to the camera and maybe 6'9" is a morning height for Chara.
Guanzo said on 6/Oct/18
Andre fans by a years,

Andre is 7'4"! in 90s
Andre is 7'2"! in 00s
Andre is 7'0"! in 2010-2016
Andre is 6'11"! in 2017
Andre is 6'10"! in 2018
Andre is 6'9" 3/4! in 2019

What's next? Andre is 6'8"?
tree said on 6/Oct/18
We can se from the Bugner VS Wepner fight that Chuck was defintley not 6ft6.
Vegas' said on 6/Oct/18
Gretz. My post had nothing to do with Andre (not even sure why you referenced him). I posted that photo because Sotiris Gravas has continually referenced Shaq as being 6'11 range since he started posting here and last couple of days stated that he thought Zdeno Chara was 6'9...just want to show what a 6'9 and 6'11 person :) looked like standing side by side!

Not sure which Shaq and Wilt photo you refer too. If it's the one I am thinking of then top of Shaqs head is taller, but it's not good for comparison purposes given the position photo was taken from.

Re: slaughter, he was billed 6'3 in WWF in 91.

Re: Windham Jr. He was same height as Dustin Runnels in early 90s in same footwear and runnels was shorter than the Conan o'Brien on his show circa 1995-96 so I doubt he was taller than 6'4 peak. If Windham was 6'5 then Sid Eudy was 6'8 peak or very close to it
RP said on 6/Oct/18
Gretz, SGT Slaughter was 6’3” at his peak.
tree said on 6/Oct/18
And Hogan didn't have thicker boots Click Here
7ft is too much for Andre.
tree said on 6/Oct/18
I dont wanna be a parrot but 6ft6 Hogan is just under his eyes guys,so 6ft11.5 was his peak.
RoelC said on 6/Oct/18
JT said on 1/Oct/18
Click Here We can’t see Fuller’s footwear and we can’t tell if Andre is on his tippy toes so there’s no point in speculating about Andre’s height from this pic. Fuller’s also a little farther from the camera unless a witch doctor shrunk his head.

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Credit to Chris from the Andre the Giant facebook page for sending me this fully scaled photo of Andre & Ron Fuller.

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Andre is not on his tippytoes or anything. He doesn't seem to be standing closer to the camera either. He seems to be having around 3 inches on Fuller.
It's unclear what type of footwear Fuller is wearing. He probably has a footwear advantage, but it's unclear how much.

How tall was Ron Fuller though?
Ton said on 5/Oct/18
I followed Andre's career ever since I was a child, and if you look up him versus Abdullah the Butcher on youtube, he looks taller than anywhere else I have seen him. Pause at 10 and 11 seconds, and he looks every bit of 7 feet or more. He is still somewhat trim, and I'm guessing this was circa late 1970's.
Love this site.
tree said on 5/Oct/18
In the pic Wepner looks to stand a bit closer giving him an advantage.
tree said on 5/Oct/18
6ft4 Joe Bugner with Wepner too bad we don't see there shoes Click Here

Click Here
Gretz said on 5/Oct/18
I well,really my sister met sgt. slaughter at the wildwood convention center in 1980.He shook my sister`s hand and dwarfed my 6'1"father I estimate him at about 6'4.5" am I in the ballpark anyone.Hogan was taller in his prime.
Gretz said on 5/Oct/18
Vegas we can`t even see the foot ware they have on in the Shack pic,and yes he does look tall next to Chara there.No one is saying Chara is as tall as Wilt.But if you insert Shack in the pic with Andre and Wilt they are all going to look around the same height,so your attempt to shrink Andre fails again(and yes i know Andre has a foot ware advantage in the wilt pic but wilt has a big wig on too).So you have proved Shack is taller than Chara great work.An old Wilt in dress shoes looks taller than a prime height rookie Shack with thick soul size sneakers on probably 19.So Shack ain`t all of that either.
Gretz said on 4/Oct/18
Gravis,i have always thought windham was a legit 6'5" and his father Mulligan 6'6".And if you think he was 6'11" at his peak we are not far off my friend.I think in the early 70`s out of bed he could be 7'0.50" to 7'0.75".But I only think he was this height for a decade or so(I have watched his career since 1974 when he always wore a brown leather vest to the ring).Now by the time he showed up to actually wrestle i`m pretty sure he was 7'0" even but even in 1976 like when he fought Wepner who was listed from 6'5" to 6'6.5.although I suspect he was at the time 6'5.5" even his manager said he was 6'6" and Andre made him look like a pygmy.This match did not look to be scripted and Andre took a hard shot got mad and simply picked up a 250LB man and threw him over the top rope.The last time i can say I felt Andre was at THE 7'0" MARK was in a pic with bob Backlund in 1978,they were both dead on 7'0" and 6'1" against a cinder block wall and they were almost against it.however as a building maintenance guy i personally measured many cinder block walls in the fire towers,and they always come out at a certain height so take it with a grain of salt.I think he was at one point 7 foot,I posted many years ago the 1969 promo pics he sure looks 7'0" there.Really what I would like to see the report when Andre was arrested in I think iowa i`m sure they must have measured him this was like 1989-90 so im sure was was in the 6'10" range by that point.
Vegas' said on 4/Oct/18
Shaq making Zdeno Chara look "short" Click Here

Looks similar height actually to next to Shaq as Deontay Wilder Click Here
James Keffer said on 3/Oct/18
Weird. I always thought he was around 6'9, 6'10.
Gretz said on 3/Oct/18
Gravis i have no problem with Chara at 6'9",and that slap shot around 110 m.p.h incredible.Would have loved to see a pic of him with his skates on next to Andre it would have been very close.
tree said on 3/Oct/18
Rob what u think Andres eyelevel was,if 6ft6 Hogan is under peak Andres eyes u think he was still 7ft?
Editor Rob
Somewhere in 5-5.25 inch range might have been possible for his eyelevel.
tree said on 3/Oct/18
The best posture we have seen from Andre ,there is Bob Heenan,Haku and Rick rude Click Here
And it looks like the distance from his eyes till the top of his head wasn't more than 13cm
6FT6 Hogan was just under his eyes,unless Andre had a 14cm eyeleve i can't see him at 7ft Click Here
Here the biggest difference in that clip Hogan just under Andres eye Click Here
Older Andre has the same amount on hogan in wm3 maybe Hogan shrunk a bit too Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Oct/18
@JT Great pic of Studd w/ Kowalski and Don Leo Jonathan and Andre! (I was under the impression that Barry Windham was more 6'4" and that his dad, Blackjack Mulligan, was more 6'5".)

I also see Ladd as being more 6'7", not 6'9". Here he is w/ Vince... Click Here
Looking very short here w/ Vince when not standing straight... Click Here

As compared to Ladd w/ 6'1" Jack Kemp... Click Here


Here's Studd w/ Andre back in 1983 on the set of "Micki and Maude"... Click Here




@Gretz It's funny you brought up Zdeno Chara. I actually forgot to post some pics on him along w/ big Mario Lemieux... He looks 6'9" to me...
Click Here

Here's Chara w/ 5'10" Tomas Tatar... Click Here looking at least 6'9". (The worst pain was getting a hockey puck to the knee via a slapshot, w/o wearing protection.)


As for Andre, I think he might have been 6'11" barefoot peak height when he was young and thin. Later in his career, he looked around 6'10" and would even look 6'9" in the years leading up to his death when he didn't stand straight. For 7 feet tall, it would have to be in the morning hours. My 2 cents.

Here's Andre w/ another "Gentle Giant," Buddy Baker (1979)... Click Here Thing is, I've heard Baker described as both 6'6" AND 6'4". How tall was he really...?
RP said on 1/Oct/18
JT, Kawolski has last about an inch by age 50....and 2” by age 67...at age 67 his back was a mess & his posture completely shot! And it looks as if 6’6” John Studd was wearing cowboy boots in the pic with Ron & Kowalski? Peak Kowalski in his prime 25-40 years of age was closer to 6’6” than 6’5”...IMO
Pdoggy said on 1/Oct/18
Click Here

Straight from the horses mouth. Episode 49.
He says he is a good 6'9 and Andre was 7 foot something.
JT said on 1/Oct/18
Ron Fuller did not look any taller next to ~ 6’5” Barry Windham than did Sid Eudy so maybe 6’7” for Fuller (listed as 6’8” at University of Miami for basketball). Click Here Robert Fuller looked a little shorter than Rick Rude so he may be around 6'2".

Click Here We can’t see Fuller’s footwear and we can’t tell if Andre is on his tippy toes so there’s no point in speculating about Andre’s height from this pic. Fuller’s also a little farther from the camera unless a witch doctor shrunk his head.
RP said on 1/Oct/18
Sotiris,
Ron’s true height was said to be 6’7” by people in the know. His 6’8” & 6’9” listings were just random wrestling Billings. And if people close to him say his real height was 6’7” ?? Then, we can’t rule out even 6’6.75” to 6’6.5” as an accurate true barefoot measurement. I’ve heard that Robert was really 6’4”? But, you’re right...he looks more 6’3” & change in those pics. I guess we can’t rule out that at some point in his life he did measure 6’4”? I’ll comptomise & call Him 6’3.5” & Ron 6’7” (max) Ron’s cowboy boots would’ve gave him something like a 0.875” to 1” footwear advantage over Andre’s wrestling boots. So?...I think we can safely say that peak Andre was 4.75” to 5” taller than Ron Fuller.
Sotiris Gravas said on 30/Sep/18
@Gretz Here's Gretzky w/ around 6'4" Mario Lemieux... Click Here

W/ around 6'4.5" Michael Jordan... Click Here , Click Here ,
Click Here

W/ around 6'4.5" Charles Barkley... Click Here
JT said on 30/Sep/18
Click Here Same hallway at least...

Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Sep/18
How tall was Killer Kowalski (billed as 6'7")?....

Maybe 6’5” peak (billed at 6’7”). Kowalski was shorter than John Studd when they tag-teamed in the mid-1970s but he was around 50 years old at the time and could have lost some height by then. at around the 1:55 mark, Vince refers to both Studd and Kowalski as 6’6”-6’7” and near 300 lbs. Click Here

Here’s Kowalski (age 67) with Studd and ~7’1” Ron Reis from 1993 Click Here

Gretz, Don Leo Jonathan was referred to as 6’5” at age 22. Click Here
tree said on 30/Sep/18
Even a 6'8 hogan would make andre under 7ft4
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Sep/18
We've all seen the pic of Andre and Ron Fuller; here it is again... Click Here But how tall was Ron Fuller... really?

Here's Robert Fuller w/ Bob Armstrong (billed as 5'11")... Click Here
Click Here I think Robert Fuller was more 6'3", not his billed 6'5".

Here's Robert Fuller w/ Jimmy Golden (billed as 6'5")... Click Here , Click Here Golden is definitely taller.

Robert Fuller w/ Stone Cold, not looking very tall... Click Here


And finally, here's Robert Fuller (in cowboy boots... heel size?) w/ Ron Fuller:
Click Here


So, how tall was Robert Fuller ... and Ron Fuller... and Andre...?
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Sep/18
Sorry, I already posted this pic of Andre w/ 6'5" David Von Erich, but I just noticed this... Is Andre tiptoeing here..? Click Here

Compare flat foot w/ not-so-flat... Click Here

Even Big Show is doing it here, but it's very subtle; blink and you'll miss it: Click Here Kidding.
Gretz said on 29/Sep/18
Gravis,sometimes we would use pucks the orange ones weighted with 30 b`bs and in the winter that really hurt really.What is your opinion on chara`s height he looks every bit of 6'9'to me.And before we forget this is an Andre page,What`s your opinion on his height too.Out of bed maybe around 7'0.50" by the night match 6.11'75" guess well never really know.All i know is all the guys we listed at 6'8"-6'10" he is taller than all of them.
Gretz said on 29/Sep/18
Man I can`t find who posted the pic earlier who showed Don Leo Johnathan 6'6" inch with 2.5 inch heels on.But it is close to the the pic with Andre and the 6'8" security gaurd,he looks 7'0" in both those pics.And D.L.J may have been a small fraction over this mark.I am not trying to say Andre was over 7'1' by any means just that he was 7'0" and a tad at his peak.
Pdoggy said on 29/Sep/18
@RP I remember Bruno going off script with Hogan as well back in the late 70's he said exactly that. Leave it to Bruno to keep it real.
RP said on 29/Sep/18
@ Sotiris! LMAO! Amen!
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 29/Sep/18
@tree

Also, the same people who think Andre was 7'4", probably also think that Hogan was at least 6'8" and The Rock at least 6'5".
Gretz said on 29/Sep/18
tree don`t get fooled you are into heights the general population dosen`t know or care about Andres height.They see Hogan billed at 6'8" at WM3.And they see Andre a lot taller not 8 inches taller and they don`t even think about it.Therefore Andre is 7'4" to them,90+% of people are going to think that even 20 years from now!
Pdoggy said on 29/Sep/18
What's funny about so many posters on this site is that we are to believe what they say about people's height but not what the actual people say about their own height.for example one might say they are 6 foot 5 and we need to believe it but if the celebrity says they're 6 5 and they're a liar. Ernie Ladd doesn't say he is a shade under 6 10 he says 6 9. Furthermore why would the article say a shade under 6 10 why wouldn't they just say 6 10 if they were going to be exaggerating his height anyway.
Sotiris Gravas said on 28/Sep/18
@RP To borrow a line from Star Trek: "Live long and prosper, my friend." (I just feel bad for the folks that have to eventually lift my heavy casket after I shuffle off this mortal coil.)


@Gretz Thanks, dude; you're A-OK in my book; long live hockey! (I remember getting slapshots in the eye w/ those orange rubber balls. The worst was during winter... damn that hurt!)
RP said on 28/Sep/18
Sotiris,
Kowalksi,
Was 6’6” in his prime according to an old interview with Bruno Sammartino way back in the mid 1990’s. Bruno was reflecting on the history of wrestling & it’s great champions & it’s giants & big men at that moment of the interview. Bruno was always pretty honest about heights & sizes. In that same interview he referred to himself as a little over 5’10” & any where from 245 to 265 lbs during his prime....he said Hulk Hogan was about 6’6” in ring gear and was once well over 300 lbs with 22” inch arms, but Wayne’s were Bigger and that Hogan was now a lot smaller, like I said this interview was right after a graduated HS (1994-1995) time frame...maybe even 1996? I’m going to research & try & find it later today. Also, in saying Wayne he was referring to Superstar Billy Graham. Bruno also was doing the mic work on Hulk Hogan’s 1st match in the WWF back around 1978 or 1979. And he went off script and said Hogan was 6’5” or 6’6” & I think he said 305 or 310 lbs? When at the time the WWF & Vince SR we’re billing him @ 6’8” & 320-325 lbs. he talked a lot about Andre too. Said he never really knew Andre’s true height because Hs never saw him actually measured...only weighed ...said the heaviest Andre ever was when they would tag team & wrestle was 450-455 lbs...but, Andre would often be as low as 400-420 & was quick as a cat at that weight. He said Andre hit 500 lbs in the early 1980’s. He later mentioned again that Andre was “right at” 7’0” ...but, he never knew exactly how tall he was. He also referred to The Undetaker as a 6 foot 7 & 300 pound man...once again...this was the mid 1990’s. Oh, and on Gorilla Monsoon...Bruno said he was 6’4”...6’5” & 400 lbs.
Gretz said on 27/Sep/18
big Tuzac i always thought was 6'7",the thing is we start talking about so many other peoples height I do it too.I think we sometimes lose sight of the fact we are trying to figure out how tall andre is,and then we get into different years and Andre`s height was variable to me depending on the time or decade whatever getting a true peak height on him is not easy,and that is not even counting the foot ware issue or weather his head is tilted down and the angle of the pics.He towers over a peak hogan in 1984 when he is pouring champagne over his head,and he has his thin souled boots on so give hogan a litle extra boost there.
tree said on 27/Sep/18
Some people think Trump is 6ft3 so..in the same bucket as Andres 7ft4..
What kind of hopes this planet has when there are so many sheeps.
tree said on 27/Sep/18
98 precent?I dont think there are so many more and more people know he was far from it.
I can't imagine how dumb u have to be to belave he was 7ft4,and those people after seeing him with Wilt still think he was that,well i can't even find words for them.
Some say he lost height or he did not reach full height bla bla bla then when in the earth he was 7ft4??
Answers:I don't know but he had to be cuz WWF sad so..and he was measured at WM3.
And when u say if he was really 7tf4 they would bill him 7ft7,some still think he was that,this guys need a bullet i dont care.

When he claimed at 24 just over 7ft they still insist like he was growing but he had surgeries and did lost it,like Andre is the incredibly shrinking man but growing in the same time,give me a break..many many very stupid people live on this earth lol.
62B said on 27/Sep/18
JT I agree that in that episode of Hunter you couldn't really tell who whos taller, just that they were similar in height.
62B said on 27/Sep/18
Pdoggy said on 26/Sep/18
@Rob
I have a question why are some posters aloud to post pics that have been altered?? For example recently a poster put a pic on here claiming 6'1" however when they did their line graph measurement they came out to be 6'3" even though they stated 6'1" in their post. Possibly an error or they thought we would only look at the 7' tall person as opposed to the 6'3" wink wink person.

Rob if you don't know maybe others here could chime in.

@62b what do you think??
Editor Rob
I didn't click the link to see it, but if others see something off, do comment or call it out.
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I think I know the picture you are referring too. I don't think a person could possibly have all the information they need or the technology to correct camera angles and distances so that people in a picture look the exact heights they are. So these altered photos are really no better than the originals in my opinion. A lot of the pictures being shown lately are just plain awful for judging heights.
Pdoggy said on 27/Sep/18
Plenty of Andre/ Wilt photos but we must post pics that aren't slanted one way or the other or Tilted that just does nothing to prove height for anyone. So if that makes you feel better by posting pics that are tilted in your favor go ahead and post it. However no one is fooled by it or shouldn't be on this site.
Gretz said on 26/Sep/18
i have a possible game changer for everyone,consider this.I have been posting here since early 2006.In that period of time I have never seen Andre in a pic with someone taller than him except Wilt,and that only happened because he had a foot ware advantage and thought he could look Wilt in the eye while he was buzzed.He had strict orders from Vince Sr. not to have his pic taken with anyone taller than him,and guys very tall like Ernie Ladd,uncle Elmer,John Studd,tyler Mane,Giant Baba,giant Haystacks,all just off the top of my head.Even Don leo Johnathan billed at 6'9 but probably shorter then you Gravis at 6'6".Even Stan Frazier got a billing of an incredible 7'9" at one point He could not have been taller than 6'9.5" at his peak.But just saying none of these guys where as tall as Andre so thats pretty impressive in fact minute Bol when he played for the sixers wanted to meet him sometime in the early 80`s And Andre would not come out he knew he would have been dwarfed by the 7'6.75" Bol and like i said HE was forbbiden to be seen with someone taller than himself,but you have to be pretty tall for that situation to ever hardly come up.
Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Sep/18
How tall was Killer Kowalski (billed as 6'7")? Here he is in cowboy boots w/ Andre, though I'm unsure as to the size of the heel... Click Here

When I first saw this pic, I thought it was Kowalski and Gorilla Monsoon, but I think it's 6'8" Scott L. Schwartz... Click Here

Here's Kowalksi w/ Triple H back in 1987... Click Here
Here they are in 2005... showing height loss... Click Here
Gretz said on 26/Sep/18
Gravas I am glad your not going to beat me up(LOL).And it`s funny you say that about hockey.I used to practice every day just street hockey when i was like 4 to 15.And I would always get drafted to be the goalie by the older kids I had all the equipment but the cup yes I can still feel the pain!Anyway thanks for sharing those pics with me!And i still think Andre peaked at 7'0" even if it was only for about a decade.But it just goes to show even though we disagree you seem like a hell of a good guy!
Pdoggy said on 26/Sep/18
Okay people with all we know now Baba, Too Tall Jones, Mane, Ron Fuller,Ernie Ladd, Uncle Elmer all in that 6 8 to 6:10 range and Andre has them all beat by 3 to 5 inches whether he is in his prime or not.
Gretz said on 26/Sep/18
Man I`m sorry JT i actually think you are a very good person,but that photo with Andre next to Shack is quite laughable you have him about 4 inches smaller than Shack.When in 1984 there pics of him as tall as Wilt(yes Andre has a foot ware advantage but Wilt still has that big wig on)I seen a pic of Shack with Wilt in i think his rookie year 1993?And Wilt with dress shoes on edges out Shack in height who has a thick pair of sneakers on so you are telling me if all three where to pose together in the same Foot ware Andre is going to magically be 4 inches shorter I know you will never revise your estimate of Andre being 6'10".But for three years or so you where showing pics of Andre at 6'11".I have been posting here for over 12 ears brother,only you and Danimal have been here longer.Vegas somehow changed your mind,but you are a smart man and I know you can photo shop Andre to what ever height you want.I bet you could bring him 6 inches to Wadlow.Hey if you think Andre was 6'10" thats fine I happen to think he peaked at 7'0",you must be aware that the public at large think he was 7'4".And I bet thats like 98% of the public.That`s why i`m glad Rob has this site easily the most accurate gage of heights on the net and Jt i have enjoyed our debates over the years,that`s what it`s all about.And like i said i like you and it`nothing personal,glad to debate with a knowledgable person like yourself.
Pdoggy said on 26/Sep/18
@Rob
I have a question why are some posters aloud to post pics that have been altered?? For example recently a poster put a pic on here claiming 6'1" however when they did their line graph measurement they came out to be 6'3" even though they stated 6'1" in their post. Possibly an error or they thought we would only look at the 7' tall person as opposed to the 6'3" wink wink person.

Rob if you don't know maybe others here could chime in.

@62b what do you think??
Editor Rob
I didn't click the link to see it, but if others see something off, do comment or call it out.
RP said on 26/Sep/18
Kunoichi, I agree on Baba.
6’7-1/2” early 1990’s & 6’8” & change at his peak.
tree said on 26/Sep/18
I wanted to say Wilt shoes gave only 2cm Click Here Click Here
Arnold shoe also gave around two Click Here

So if Andre had those 6cm boot he looked 6ft11-6ft11.5 there
tree said on 26/Sep/18
To be fair Andres boots look to give only 6cm next to the 4cm cuban heeled boots
But in that photo with thin shoes enxt to Arnold,he looks max 6ft11,even if Arnold shoes are a bit thiscker.
And if his boots were 6cm with Wilt whos shoes gve only 4 then Andre could be MAX 6ft11.5,he looked the same height or half inch shorter than Wilt,and had a head on Arnold,also there is a chance Andre is a little bit closer to the cam.
with Muhamad Ali he looked max 6ft10.5 there he was only 31 Click Here
Kunoichi said on 26/Sep/18
Ring shoes and shoes actually used by Giant Baba.The unit of length is cm.

Click Here

MY estimates about Baba’s height are about 202 cm in the 1990's.
Because Baba told that his height was 202 cm at that time at the TV show.

I assume that Baba's heyday was 204 - 205 cm.
tree said on 26/Sep/18
Dynamite Kid is billed at 5ft8,its wierd if he is really 5ft9
richardd said on 26/Sep/18
Some of these downgraded heights are idiotic. Bret Hart at 5'10?! lol. For the record, I'm from western Canada and stand 5'10. I stood one on one, talking to Owen Hart one evening for over an hour, and he was clearly a shade taller than me 5'10.5 to 5'11. Bret in turn in clearly a couple of inches over Owen. Note as well that Davey Boy Smith is NOT 5'9! lol. I stood beside him as well - not talking to him, and he was most definitely taller than I am. Dynamite Kid too - while shorter than me, was not much shorter. I'd put him at 5'9. Again, I can promise all of you that Owen Hart was just over 5'10. I'd love to say I was the same height but I wasn't.
JT said on 26/Sep/18
Gretz, remember that Andre most likely had around 3 inch heels with Wilt and Arnold. These are his boots from October 1983 Click Here or the same month that the photos with Wilt and Arnold were taken. This is only 2 months later Click Here

There’s no speculation about Andre’s footwear here with Arnold Click Here from that same time period and he’s not looking so tall assuming Arnold is around 6’1”. Click Here Click Here It’s a similar angle to Andre in Piper’s Pit from early 1985 Click Here with Arnold looking roughly Piper’s height, maybe a little taller.

Wilt’s wig looks like it adds significant height but that’s only because it extends so far down his forehead, making his head look smaller than it really is. Click Here

62B, there is no good shot of Studd and Fred Dryer from that Hunter episode where we can gauge who’s taller. BTW Dryer looked shorter than a 6’6” listed guy on the LA Rams (Mike Fanning) and looked no more than 6’5” with John Matuszak. I stood next to Matuszak in a record store in LA back in the mid-1980s and he seemed around 6’7”. Dryer did look more than 6'5" though next to Jesse Ventura from a Hunter episode where Ventura (~6’2”ish) was wearing around 3 inch heels and Dryer dress shoes. Click Here
RP said on 25/Sep/18
So, let’s address Baba & the 209cm monument. If it’s a legit 209cm, would mean we can peg Baba’s legit height down to 6’8” barefoot. 209cm = 6’10-1/4” & Baba appears to be 6’9” in shoes assuming the monument is a legit 6’10.25” ?? This would make Baba approximately 6’8” barefoot. Now, knowing that...we can start comparing pics from the past of many wrestlers ...Andre, Hogan, Studd, Mulligan ...etc and pretty much peg their heights. Only thing is, we’ll never know if these men used footwear tricks back in the day? Which many of them have been accused of.
184guy2 said on 25/Sep/18
C'mon he had to be at least 6'11 by 1987 :
Click Here
Click Here

Look how he towered One Man Gang ( 6'6) , King Kong Bundy ( 6'4 ) and Rick Rude ( 6'3 )
Halb said on 25/Sep/18
Probability wise I don't think André was 7 feet, but he and Wilt do look much taller than AhNold.
Undertaker Frank said on 25/Sep/18
Gretz, Go to youtube and see the Andre vs Wepner you will see Monsoon is shorter than Wepner who is listed @ 6ft 5 So i cant believe Monsoon was 6ft 5 Maybe 6ft 3ish to 6ft 4 @ best
RP said on 25/Sep/18
Sotiris, I hear ya big man! I’m 5’11” & 223-225 lbs right now. And @ age 42...43 this November, I need to trim back down to 212-215. For better cardiovascular health. Years of heavy lifting & contact sports have left my old ass with achy joints. So, Cardio gets neglected often, LOL! But...the iron is in my DNA...I’ll be lifting when I stroke out in my golden years for sure. My wife has been on my ass to start running with her again. It’s on the to do list. Stay strong & healthy, Friend!
Gretz said on 24/Sep/18
Rob i have been watching videos of Andre and Arnold and Andre just comes out too tall next to him.I know a friend of his measured him at 6'1.5" back in 1969,this has to be enhanced as Wilt and Andre in the pics where they are the same height(I know Andre has a foot ware advantage)but man they look very tall next to Arnold,Wilt has moccasins on so he gets what a quarter inch but you have to include the wig it may give him close to another inch.I may have to revise my estimate of Andre in 1984 to still being 7'0" unless Arnold only reached 6'0" even,they just totally dwarf him.And as an Olympia winner a scant 4 years ago they dwarf him in mass as well.I would love to here opinions on this.
Editor Rob
I don't think he was good friends with the guy who measured him!
Capt.Nobody said on 24/Sep/18
If that stone is legit 6-10 then that Baba shot could be a game changer.
Guanzo said on 24/Sep/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Sep/18

Finally, if Studd was 6'5", Andre was 6'10" here... Click Here

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Andre looks 6'8" max in that pic.
Demento said on 24/Sep/18
Here is an interview where Andre and Baba are stood next to each other.

Click Here

Looks around 4 inches to me.
Sotiris Gravas said on 23/Sep/18
@Gretz Glad you liked the hockey pics, dude. (Don't worry, I'm a gentle giant.) My brother and I began playing street hockey at the age of about 3. My mom would always be surprised when 16 and 18-year-old neighbor kids would ring the doorbell 'cause they needed a goalie, that happened to be only 3 years old. (I probably weighed about 140 lbs at the tender age of 8.) I think you might be right about "The Great One" being around 5'11".


@RP I was about 305 lbs (possibly 310 lbs) back then. Am now a more healthy 265, but go back to around 275 in the winter. (Hopefully, there's no heart attack in the offing.) The other dude was around 185 lbs, I think.
Gretz said on 23/Sep/18
If Andre lifted that head up with terry O`reilly just slightly he is in fact 7'0".most people have to recognize larger man almost always have their head tilted slightly downward in pics.He is I.M.O 7'0" in every pic with the bruins no problem.And I have seen 6'2" listings for O`reilly.Can people still say he was a mere 6'10" in light of all these photos.If he ever stood tall with his chin jutted out 7'0.5'until at least 1976
Gretz said on 23/Sep/18
Man I am tired of people listing Monsoon at 6'4",I met him outside of the old Wild Wood convention center when i was 12 or 13 in 1979-80 he was selling tickets out front and my dad was a solid 6'1" and he dwarfed my father in every way he was at least 4 inches taller and was still 400+ pounds at the time.(keep in mind it`s hard too admit to a 13 year old boy that someone is that much bigger than your father)and his feet where huge he had white addidas on and they had to be size 16 or 17.And if anything my dad had a foot ware advantage as he had big clodhopper boots on I used to call them Herman Munster shoes,I have no doubt he was 6'5" at the time.I was so intimidated by him I was scared to ask him for an autograph,and Ladd I keep saying even next to Monsoon looks 6'9.5".Although I admit I can`t see there foot ware i will do more home work on this.(and Rob maybe it`s time for a Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux page) I have them at 5'11" and 6'5" respectively,Lemieux is usually listed at 6'4" but when he stands next to a 6'4" player he is always taller you can use 6'4"Eric Lindros as an example as he looks an inch taller than him.So I don`t buy anything under 6'4.75 for Super Mario.
62B said on 23/Sep/18
Sotiris its typical you want to down grade someone like Reeves to get Studd to be your wanted 6'5". Even if Reeves was 6'3" I think Studd comes out looking 6'5.5" min and if Reeves is 6'3.5" then Studd is for sure 6'6". That picture with Dryer is a joke. they are on steep incline favoring Dryer. watch the episode. a few frames later and Studd is looking taller than Dryer. You are so blatant, how do you expect to be taken seriously?
Gretz said on 23/Sep/18
Studd was in no way 6'5,he was probably an inch taller than HOGAN+ in that match with Studd when it started to rain.Studd was 6'6.5-6'7".lets not forget hogan was an inch taller than 6'5".5 hillbilly jim,i know you guys want Andre to be smaller because of the people around him but it throws all other heights into chaos.Andre was at least 7'0.5" out of bed in 1972 get over it the world won`t end.
tree said on 23/Sep/18
Demento said on 22/Sep/18
Take Baba's shoes off and move his feet flat against the monument and he comes out at 6ft7.

An old Andre had 4 inches on Baba in their wrestling gear.

No way his shoes give 1 inch and he isnt evn stretched for a measurment
Gretz said on 23/Sep/18
Gravis,i did make a post earlier that never made it,yes i am one of Wayne Gretzky`s biggest fans.and thanks for posting that pic with him and Hogan,i think Gretz was 5'11" although he gets a lot of 6'0" listings.I think hogan looks a good 6'5"there,and the pic with Orr and Phil Esposito is another I haven`t seen.i have no problem with Andre being 7'0") there,also the pics with the old montreal players is cool.And i better stop arguing with you as you are a giant in your own right
Pdoggy said on 23/Sep/18
Like I said downgrading everyone by 2 inches to get the desired height.
tree said on 22/Sep/18
Older Andre looked about 2 inches Taller than Baba Click Here
And we know he had to be 6ft10 even at 44 he had easy 2 inch on Tyler Mane
tree said on 22/Sep/18
Great find man Baba looks like he could strech to 6ft10 in shoes,i taught he looked 6ft8-6ft9 with Jeff Butch
Jeff was taller than 6ft8 Tyler Mane
I dont know where that 6ft6 listing came for BABA it to low Click Here
at 1:05 u can compare mane and Jeff
Demento said on 22/Sep/18
Take Baba's shoes off and move his feet flat against the monument and he comes out at 6ft7.

An old Andre had 4 inches on Baba in their wrestling gear.
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Sep/18
Slick was billed as 6'4". How tall does Gorilla Monsoon look next to him? Click Here
The answer? Not very tall.

Here's Monsoon w/ 6'3" (MAX) Ventura... Click Here

Monsoon and 6'2.5" Vader... Click Here , Click Here

Monsoon and 6'2.5" Ali (in socks)... Click Here

Monsoon and 6'4"/6'4.5" Hogan (head tilted up)... Click Here


Maybe Monsoon was 6'5" peak, but I don't think so. I say no more than 6'4" peak. Also, why would they only bill a 6'5" guy as 6'5"?
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Sep/18
Here's 6'5" Studd w/ Christopher Reeve, who I think might have been more 6'3" than 6'3.5":
Click Here

Here's Reeve and his 6'4" stand-in, Donald Standen (perfect name for a stand-in):
Click Here Standen is taller of the two.

Reeve looks 6'3.5" w/ 6'2" Gene Hackman... Click Here
Compared to Hackman and 6'5.5" Clive Mantle... Click Here

Reeve barely looks 6'3" w/ 5'9" peak height Jimmy Carter... Click Here

Reeve looks 6'3" w/ 6'1" peak height Roger Moore... Click Here

Reeve looks 6'3" next to 6'1" peak Arnie... Click Here

Here's a nice pic JT posted online of Studd and 6'6" Fred Dryer... Click Here


Finally, if Studd was 6'5", Andre was 6'10" here... Click Here
62B said on 21/Sep/18
Lots of debate over Ladds true height. Any chance of giving him a page Rob? I do think its possible that Ladd was given a little boost in height in football. Its not like that doesn't ever happen. I just don't think its as common or to the degree they do it in wrestling.
Editor Rob
Ladd claimed 6ft 9, but he has been called 6ft 8,9,10...i'd rule out 10 anyway.
RP said on 21/Sep/18
Sotiris! Looking huge! You look like 300 lbs & a mountain of a man in the statue pic with the 5’11” chap. Who’s my height.
Gretz said on 21/Sep/18
OH and the pic you posted with Orr you can also i think see phil Esposito in the back.and i have know problem with Andre being 7'0" there.But some great pics I have not seen before.Oh and those pics look from around 1973-4.
Gretz said on 21/Sep/18
Yes Gravis i am one of the great one`s biggest fans(i can even tell you his stats season by season over 185 numbers)i would like to thank you for posting that pic of Gretzky and Hogan.I think Gretz was about 5'11" though he gets a lot of 6'0" billings,still i think Hogan is a solid 6'5" there Gretz`s daughter Paulina is about 3 or so there so this pic is probably circa 1992-93.and thanks for the pic of the old montreal guys.And i better not argue with you too much anymore i had no idea you where a giant in your own right.
tree said on 21/Sep/18
Nobody can't prove Andre was 7ft tall lol,sometimes u can push things and say he is but most of the times he looks under it dumbs
Matthew Riddell said on 21/Sep/18
I disagree with 7'0"
Although he was definitely not 7'4" as billed, it's almost certain that he was around 7'1 anda half.
The best example of this is when you compare his entry photo onto letterman with the actor who played Jaws.
They are almost exactly the same height, just a shade under 7'2...
He also was officially measure in Canada by skeptics alongside Giant Haystacks and came in at over 7'1...
Who knows. But I'm pretty sure it should at least say 7'1.
Taker74 said on 21/Sep/18
RP said on 17/Sep/18
Taker74...
Pau Gasol Saez
Was measured barefoot by The FIBA Euro Baskerball League (Spain) in 2006 @ 212.5 CM... 6’11-5/8”

Well my cousin who was invited to the Gasol foundation was told by the man himself that he was a tad over 7 feet. She is 5'3 and had an inch footwear at the time the photo was taken. Both brothers looked ginormous next to her. I'll look for the link or photo and post it. You be the judge and I know 'fact' she's 5'3
tree said on 21/Sep/18
I mean Ladd looks max 6ft8 so Andre was good inches taller,a Legit 6ft9 would not be towered by andre ,he would have MAX 3 inches on him
tree said on 21/Sep/18
Click Here no wonder if he was max 6ft8 and 6ft9 in shoes
JT said on 21/Sep/18
Monsoon may have been 6’4” peak but was around 6’3” by the 1980s.

6’6” John Studd had him by around 3 inches in 1983 Click Here

Dave Winfield, listed at 6’6” by MLB (which exaggerates nost everyone’s height) but 6’5” at Univ. of Minnesota playing basketball at age 20 was noticeably taller in 1986 as well even with the low camera angle and Monsoonn closer to the camera Click Here Monsoon was around ~ 6'3" King Kong Bundy's height.
Sotiris Gravas said on 20/Sep/18
@Kuoichi I think it was JT who posted this online Click Here showing that Giant Baba was really 6'6", so, a 6'7" Ernie Ladd would obviously have a higher eyeline.


Giant Baba and 6'2.5"? Antonio Inoki W/ FOOTWEAR: Click Here , Click Here


Inoki and 6'2.5" Ali W/ FOOTWEAR SHOWN (Ali looking TALLER than Inoki)... Click Here

Inoki and Ali... Click Here



Baba and 6'4" John Tenta... Click Here
6'2" Sting and 6'4" Tenta... Click Here
Sting and 6'6.5" Sid... Click Here


Once again, Baba and Andre (closer to camera)... Click Here

Andre was at least 6'10" early days, maybe 6'11" peak height... not 7 feet tall.
Johnnywalker said on 20/Sep/18
Time for you to finally face reality Gravas, Ernie Ladd was taller than you and a whole lot better athlete than you. You don't like facts to well huh pal. Gravas is always good for a laugh. Keep it up pal!
Kuoichi said on 20/Sep/18
Monument with a height of 209 cm and Giant Baba.

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Gretz said on 20/Sep/18
i have actually measured my pupils to the top of my head and i will have to check again,but i think it was 4.5 at least and I have a shaved head(I peaked at 5'11.5" but at 50 with back damage from dead lifting I have dropped to 5'10".I would think A man of Ladd`s size it would be about 5 inches).And thanks Danimal I thought Monsoon hit 6'5 also,I met him at the wildwood convention center he was selling tickets outside I was like 12 or 13.he was so massive i was scared to ask Him for his autograph,my father was a big 6'1" and monsoon dwarfed him in every way.That night he was standing at the door and the size of his feet i could not believe they had to be size 15 or 16 Addidas he had on and he waqs still around 400+ pounds at the time.Depending on foot ware ladd looks 6'9.5 to me,using him to make Andre shorter is not a good idea.
Sotiris Gravas said on 19/Sep/18
@tree Nice birthday cake pic. If only we knew the height of the statue next to Andre:
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Back of the photo taken in 1974... Click Here

Just for the hell of it, here's a statue that makes me look very small (guy on the right is around 5'11"), taken in 2012... Click Here
Halb said on 19/Sep/18
Ladd looks about the same height as Studd there?
Duhon said on 19/Sep/18
@Canson that Griffin pic with a female fan I think you're referring to was a Photoshop fake. This is the fake one Click Here, this is the real picture Click Here
Pdoggy said on 19/Sep/18
@Tree If you can't tell that John Studd is standing on something or has lifts or both then there is no hope for you. Studd actually looks taller than Ladd there. He even says he stands tall with Ernie Ladd, lol.

As far as Ron Fuller goes or anyone else none of us have a tape measure pic of them rolling out of bed first thing in the a.m. I knew when I posted that pic of Fuller just like Gretz said there would be people ready to downgrade him. You can't downgrade everyone just to suit your own agenda. If you downgrade him then you got to start downgrading everybody else and before you know it everyone is downgraded inches just so that you can say you were right about Andres actual height. Just for giggles let's say he is only 6'9" with shoes on in the pic because he has the footwear advantage. Andre is over 7' in the pic. Even with downgrading Fuller Andre is taller than you think he is and hits the mark that Rob has him at on the top of this page just over 7'.
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Sep/18
@Gretz Are you a Wayne Gretzky fan?

Andre and 5'10" Bobby Hull... Click Here

Andre and 5'11" (not 6'0") Bobby Orr (might be barefoot here)... Click Here

Andre (closer to camera) and 6'1" Terry O'Reilly... Click Here


Here's Hogan w/ 6'2" Nick Fotiu... Click Here
Hogan and your namesake, Gretzky... Click Here


Here's my brother (around 6'4") next to another French giant... "Le Gros Bill", 6'3" Jean Beliveau back in around 1992... Click Here
(Other players from left to right are 5'7" Henri Richard, 5'10" Dickie Moore, and 5'9" Bernie Geoffrion in shoes.)

Just for the hell of it, here's my bro (only 170 lbs back then/closer to camera) and me (around 6'7", 270 lbs) from 1995, when he got married... Click Here
Canson said on 18/Sep/18
I think Gasol is max 7’0”. Odom is about 6’9” maybe 6’8.5 worst case
RoelC said on 18/Sep/18
tree said on 16/Sep/18
Arnie ladd looked under 6'9 with Jon Studd Click Here
We dont knpw if he was really 6ft9 often players are measured in shoes or in the morning,Studd may have big boots there or stand on a small box but maybe not..
And is there any evidence ron fuller was really 6ft9?
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Ernie Ladd was listed at 6'9" in the AFL. That doesn't mean he was measured at that height. Listed heights in football are no more accurate than the heights in pro-basketball. And like in basketball, some heights were accurate and some were clearly exaggerated.

In pro-wrestling Ernie Ladd never looked 6'9" to me. He was barely taller than John Studd. And the excuses of Studd wearing lifts really need to stop. Studd didn't need to wear lifts next to Ladd. Ladd was billed 7ft, while Studd was billed 6'9" when they tagged together.

Here are screencaps from one of their tag matches, with a clear visual of both men's footwear.
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It seems to me like they were wearing the same type of boots.

They once stood together, side-by-side in the ring, but for some reason the camera didn't show them both at the same time. With a little help from Photoshop, you can merge 2 shots together.
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Ladd barely edges out Studd.

Now compare Ladd next to McMahon with Nash next to McMahon
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It's pretty clear that Nash looks several inches taller next to McMahon than Ladd ever did.
BURN IT DOWWWWWN! said on 18/Sep/18
@Sotiris Keep in mind pictures alone aren't always accurate for judging height. There's so many factors to consider with the main being footwear, camera and posture.
UndertakerFrank said on 18/Sep/18
I dont believe Monsoon was 6ft 5 he was shorter than Chuck Wepner
Pdoggy said on 18/Sep/18
yes it's all a giant conspiracy everyone is actually a couple inches shorter than they actually say they are. Also in on it or all the people who said Ernie Ladd was just a shade under 6'10 they were in on the conspiracy too with Ron Fuller and of course John Studd is the perfect person to compare Heights with because he wore lifts all the time to appear taller next to Andre.

I guess it comes down to this people don't want to admit they're wrong I always thought growing up as a little kid that Andre was 7 feet 4 inches tall he wasn't he was somewhere just over 7 ft tall he was not under 7 feet tall that's what people have to come to terms with when he's with people over 6 foot 8 he still has 4 plus inches on them. Here is the people over 6'8" that he has been photographed with:
Giant Baba
Ron Fuller
Uncle Elmer
Ernie Ladd
Gretz said on 18/Sep/18
gravis i made a post that never showed up detailing every pic,lets just say they are weak and you are clutching at straws.lets just say that the one with Heenan proves he was 6'9" and i think he was actually closer to 6'9.5".The pic with Ali who is in the foreground is a joke and he still looks 6'9" anyway(more proof of him being slightly over that mark)if you think pictures of Ladd are going to make Andre under 7 foot forget about it it only proves Andre was 7'0"!
Gretz said on 18/Sep/18
Tree that is the exact video I was thinking of,Studd actually looks taller than Ladd.In an interview from like a year or so earlier Ladd was 2 or 2.5 inches taller than Studd,he probably figured because he was going to be the next giant in wrestling after Andre.That he should enhance his foot ware to even things up.i.M.O he should not be used in any comparison photos you never know when he will enhance his size.He should have done it with the wrestlmania when 6`5" Bill Fralic was probably only an inch or so under Studd at the time(I have always maintained that Studd was 6'6.5" maybe a fraction taller at his peak).When he wrestled hogan in an outdoor stadium it actually started to rain,he looked a solid inch or so taller than Hogan.By the way Studd had shoulders that where much higher than fralics he took hgh but i don`t know if he took steroids and at the time he had to get it from human cadavers.This may have contributed to his death as he may have contracted a form of bovine spongiform encephlalpathy(mad cow disease).I seen him wrestle Andre in 1978 while thinner he looked very tall maybe he hit 6'7" out of bed?

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