How tall is Andre The Giant

Andre The Giant's Height

7ft 0 (213.4 cm)

Andre Rene Roussimoff was a French Wrestler and Actor from The Princess Bride. His official site gives him 7ft 4, also shows his 'measured' height from wrestlemania 3 (1987) as a whopping 7ft 5. He suffered from acromelagy and was supposedly 6ft 7 age 17. His spine took a lot of damage over his career. In 1971 Andre claimed to be "214cm" (Just over 7ft) at a weight of 171kg.

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7ft 0.02in (213.4cm)
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 19/May/19
Andre would have turned 73 today. He lived a tragically short life of 46 years.

RIP Andre xxx 💐🌸🌹🏵️🌷🥀💐

7ft.
Ironman092289 said on 18/May/19
A solid 6'11 fellow, maybe close to 7'0 at his full peak. At his death honestly, he lost a lot of height. Maybe 6'9.75" when he died.
JT said on 17/May/19
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Annonymous said on 12/May/19
Hockey skates give you 3.25-3.5 inches, so that is just stupid and not good to use..Probert is standing 6'6.5-6'7 in skates. If you see NHLers in equipment they look ginormous on even ground yet get them out of gear and skates after the game they quickly look more normal.
RP said on 12/May/19
@ 62B...all good points you made.
RP said on 11/May/19
@ Sotiris
Looks like Bob Probert is probably in full uniform & skates with Hillbilly Jim. Those ice skate will give you about a 1.5” to 1.75” footwear advantage over a sneaker. Which is likely what Jim had in seeing HD was wearing zubaz workout pants.
62B said on 10/May/19
Gretz. I know you have spent tons of time researching Andre. Personally I don't think he was ever 7'1". Andre was just to far away from a true 7'3" guy when I saw him, and all of the Wilt pictures back that up. I get it I have no tangible proof, only a personal experience. Still, reality I think is a peak Andre at 7' morning and probably down to 6'11 before bed. Broken down Andre early 90's probably still had an afternoon standing around height of 6'9+ with the ability to stretch out to over 6'10" if he wanted to.
62B said on 10/May/19
RP said on 8/May/19
Sotiris! A very telling video of Andre there with the manager slick ... and yes it is true that Slick’s true legit height was 6’3” ! He often got billed @6’4” & 6’5”. But, he’s actually 6’3”. Slick did wear cowboy dress boots a lot though. Also, take note...That André with shoes on was shorter than that 7’0” doorway. But, we all know that was older broken down André ... approximately 1.5” to 2” shorter than his peak height of the 1970s into the early 1980s. By judging from that 7’0” doorway...André at that point was 6’10.5” with shoes on. Possibly if he was to stretch out as much as possible he maybe could’ve pulled off a 6’11” measurement with those shoes on. But, this does confirm that late 1980s Andre with shoes on and at night time was indeed shorter than 7’0”... The question is how thick were the soles in those shoes ? I’d say 6’9.5” evening barefoot height for a late 1980s Andre the giant is a pretty accurate guess...IMO. If slick was wearing his dress cowboy boots like he did a lot in that era ... he would’ve been standing approximately 6’4.75”... and by taking that into factor along with the doorway ...André looks 6’10.5” (in-shoes) there.

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RP, not sure what year that video was. But if those doors are in fact 7', then the door way itself is at least 7'1". Andre also never even came close to standing straight in that clip. A broken down Andre probably did have a standing around height of 6'9.5", but he also gave up lot in posture in those days. More than a half an inch for sure.
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/May/19
@Gretz To me, Hillbilly Jim and Hogan were around the same height, max 6'5", provided Hogan wasn't in his cowboy boots and they had equal footwear... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here

Hillbilly and Hogan with max 6'2" IRS and max 6'4" Barry Windham... Click Here Hogan looks max 6'5" here, not 6'6" or 6'6.5". At least, IMHO.
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/May/19
@RP Yeah, I definitely agree that Slick's in his cowboys boots there. As for a Andre at this point in his life, he definitely has poor posture and looks to be 6'9.5"... perhaps even as low as 6'9".

Here's max 6'3" Dwyane Wade w/ max 6'8" Alonzo Mourning... Click Here

As compared to Slick and Andre... Click Here





@Gretz Agreed, dude, this is an older Andre, not Andre in his prime. To Andre's credit, a tall guy can easily look 1" shorter w/ bad posture, or a weird camera angle, so maybe he was taller than I believe... That said, maybe he was 6'11" peak height as a young, thin man.

Andre and 6'5" Hogan (1979)... Click Here

6'10" Moses Malone w/ 6'4.75" Charles Barkley... Click Here


Keep in mind, this was 7'1.75" Kareem and 4'11" Bill Shoemaker vs. Andre (no cowboy boots) and Shoemaker... Click Here That's a difference of around 4" IMHO. (I also see Shoemaker as 4'10" online.)


I know you're a hockey fan, so here's Hillbilly Jim w/ 6'3" Bob Probert... Click Here
Probert, Messier, and Gretzky (1988)... Click Here
Gretz said on 8/May/19
the problem is Gravis you are showing an old run down giant.
Gretz said on 8/May/19
How was Andre 6'10" when hillbilly Jim was 6'5 or 6'5.5".and Hogan was an inch taller.Andre at ww3 was 5 inches + taller than him.Backstage they thought he was 6'10.75,he was probably 6'11'.In 1972 he was close to 7'1" look at the cake pics.
Dustin M Williams said on 8/May/19
Sotiris
That is a 7 ft door Andre is standing next to, and this is Andre at his worst physically. Not a good clip to judge by. I don’t know if you noticed all the hunching and hobbling...Look up this version of Andre next to Tenta, who was 6’5” at the bare minimum. Even a broken down crippled Andre looks 6’10” compared to Tenta. Not 7’4” or 5, but definitely taller than 6’9” or 10” peak height.
RP said on 8/May/19
Sotiris! A very telling video of Andre there with the manager slick ... and yes it is true that Slick’s true legit height was 6’3” ! He often got billed @6’4” & 6’5”. But, he’s actually 6’3”. Slick did wear cowboy dress boots a lot though. Also, take note...That André with shoes on was shorter than that 7’0” doorway. But, we all know that was older broken down André ... approximately 1.5” to 2” shorter than his peak height of the 1970s into the early 1980s. By judging from that 7’0” doorway...André at that point was 6’10.5” with shoes on. Possibly if he was to stretch out as much as possible he maybe could’ve pulled off a 6’11” measurement with those shoes on. But, this does confirm that late 1980s Andre with shoes on and at night time was indeed shorter than 7’0”... The question is how thick were the soles in those shoes ? I’d say 6’9.5” evening barefoot height for a late 1980s Andre the giant is a pretty accurate guess...IMO. If slick was wearing his dress cowboy boots like he did a lot in that era ... he would’ve been standing approximately 6’4.75”... and by taking that into factor along with the doorway ...André looks 6’10.5” (in-shoes) there.
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/May/19
Wanna know why ppl think Andre was taller than he really was...?

B/c they look at this... Click Here

Instead of this... Click Here


Remember, kids... wrestling is fake. Also, Hogan once said that Slick (billed 6'4") was really 6'3".
Halb said on 5/May/19
Top line for André's head is too high, we know from pics that he had a very short brow which barely went higher as it got into his hairline
Johan 185 cm said on 4/May/19
Jesica said on 30/Apr/19
Johan 185 cm said on 25/Apr/19
I just watched The Princess Bride and he looks easily a foot taller than 5'11" listed Cary Elwes.

What also shocked me was the size of his head, i think that is a legit 11 inch head.

Closer to 12" if not slightly more.

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That was no analysis just a number I put out there as its over the normal. Yes I agree his head could be that long, its huge because of his condition.
Boss said on 2/May/19
Here Andre and Mauricio Tillet who's head was measured at around 12" compared to Andre. Andre's head was at least 1" longer.
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Boss said on 2/May/19
Here Andre and Hogan face to face. You can't get any better for a comparison than here. Hogan's head was 10.5" range which would put Andre's head at 13.05".
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Jesica said on 30/Apr/19
Johan 185 cm said on 25/Apr/19
I just watched The Princess Bride and he looks easily a foot taller than 5'11" listed Cary Elwes.

What also shocked me was the size of his head, i think that is a legit 11 inch head.

Closer to 12" if not slightly more.
cmillzz said on 30/Apr/19
peak was at least 6’11 imo.
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Apr/19
@Rawdshaq Here's Andre in the mid-'70s w/ 5'9" (billed 5'11") Verne Gagne:
Click Here The guy next to him was 6'5" Chris Taylor... seen here again along w/ Ken Patera... Click Here
Maurice "Mad Dog" Vachon (billed 5'7") and Gagne... Click Here
Now, Johan 185 cm said Andre must have had a head that was 11" long. I say that was too small. Even if his head was at least 12" long, does Andre look more than 6'11" in that pic w/ Gagne...? I don't think so.

Verne Gagne, Arnold Skaaland and Andre in big cowboy boots (1974)... Click Here

Again, Gagne and a young Andre... Click Here




Here's Gagne w/ around 6'7" Ernie Ladd... Click Here

Remember, this was Ladd next to max 6'2" George H.W. Bush... Click Here
Here's Ladd w/ 6'1.5" Vince McMahon (1976)... Click Here
Ladd w/ Ray Candy (billed 6'5") in 1978... Click Here




Andre looked max 6'10" to me, but maybe if he stood w/ perfect military posture he could have hit 6'11" when he was young and thin. As for before he died, I'm not really sure due to his poor posture. He could look as low as 6'9", but maybe he got down to 6'9.5".



@RP Definitely. Almost all old-school bodybuilding heights are inflated. Sadly, I don't think Everson was on his tippy toes.

This was Studd next to 5'11" peak-height George W. Bush Click Here

Studd and around 5'9" Ricky Steamboat... Click Here

Here's a recent pic of height-loss Steamboat and max 6'5" Gene Snitsky... Click Here

Steamboat and max 6'8' Big Cass (who I think is 6'7.5")... Click Here


Steamboat and Flair (2019)... Click Here , Click Here
Recent pic of Flair and 5'8" Ludacris... Click Here
rawdshaq said on 27/Apr/19
@Sotiris how tall do you think Andre was at peak and death?
RP said on 27/Apr/19
At Sotiris,
That’s Jeff Everson. He recently passed away. Back in the 80’s & 90’s all the bodybuilding magazines used to list him @ 6’0”...however, I actually met Jeff once at a fitness expo in Miami, FL in 1997...I was 21 years old going on 22. and I judged him @ only 5’11”... and I’m a pretty good judge of 5’11”. Since I’m also 5’11” barefoot, LOL! That being said, I sure hope he was on his tip toes in that pic with Big John Studd! Otherwise, Studd isn’t even 6’5” in that photo!!!
Texas Tom said on 26/Apr/19
In pictures with guys around 6-5, Andre can look way under 7 feet, probably under 6-10...I.E. Chuck Wepner, Don Leo Jonathan. Ironically, with even taller guys in the 6-8 or 6-9 range, like Ron Fuller and Elmer, he looks closer to around 6-11.
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Apr/19
@Annonymous Here's Big John Studd w/ 5'10" (billed 6'0") Chief Jay Strongbow... Click Here

6'5" (billed 6'6") Don Leo Jonathan and Strongbow (1974)... Click Here

Studd was max 6'5.5" afternoon height, not even 6'6", let alone 6'7". Pics next to 6'4.5" Bill Fralic and 6'6" Rick Barry proves this.





Here are some pics that have been already posted before, but I'll post them again for new ppl to this site:

Strongbow and Andre the Giant... Click Here , Click Here
Strongbow and 6'8" (billed 6'10") Uncle Elmer... Click Here

Elmer and Andre the Giant... Click Here

6'7.5" Giant Haystacks and Andre... Click Here

Don Leo Jonathan and Andre... Click Here , (1972) Click Here

Remember, this was Studd (no lifts) next to Cory Everson's 5'11" husband... Click Here

Studd and Andre on his tippy toes... Click Here






Note: I once thought this was Andre and Don Leo Jonathan Click Here , but it's really Michael Nador... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here
Johan 185 cm said on 25/Apr/19
I just watched The Princess Bride and he looks easily a foot taller than 5'11" listed Cary Elwes.

What also shocked me was the size of his head, i think that is a legit 11 inch head.

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Annonymous said on 22/Apr/19
If Studd wasn't 6'7" he was really close like 6 '6.75 evening. He was a next-level kind of big.
62B said on 16/Apr/19
Most everyone here knows how I ran into Andre and got knocked on my butt. You all know I estimate him at the time (1988) at 6'11" in the mid morning. Andre with his massive body and long spine realistically was one of those guys who lost an inch over the course of the day. So Gretz, I believe what you read that an employee figured Andre was 6'10 3/4" at WM3. Likely evening and in his wrestling boots from the sounds of it. Barefoot evening at WM3 he was probably 6'10"-6'10.5". I know his body was breaking down, but I still don't think he would have lost more than an inch peak by then. I think Andre was probably the full 7' peak, but in the morning, maybe even 7'.05". I think if we are going to go by late afternoon/early evening that I would be Okay with 6'11"/6'11.5" for his peak.
Erik C. said on 14/Apr/19
Sotiris

Full one in evening

Dude the door looks like a small toy to me!😂
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Erik C. said on 14/Apr/19
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@Sotiris

My coach measure me. With good posture in shoes i’m 7’2.
Erik C. said on 14/Apr/19
@Sotiris

Sorry it took so long. Sorry that you can’t see my legs I’ll fix that in some days. This is what i meant when i said i can lick my doors and shove my head on them. This is me barefoot afternoon with good posture after playing basketball (staying active, lol). Angles on point. Ill make sure i send you one of my full body.

This door is 6ft8.25. I tilted my head a lil to show you with good posture that it reaches my chin region. Ill send a normal pic soon. :)
Enjoy.
Halb said on 14/Apr/19
Difficult to judge with Studd, since he wore lifts. And he wasn't 6'7
Gretz said on 13/Apr/19
Also I read reports that Andre backstage at WW3 was 6'10.75,A guy that worked there said he would estimate Andre`s height when he went past a certain door.(and know I can`t prove it)and college students estimated him using pixels from a tv that Andre was 5 inches taller than Hogan at the time.It makes sense since in 1984 if Andre raises his huge head he is tall as Wilt,but in another pic when he is looking down he loses 2+ inches.
Gretz said on 13/Apr/19
Hey guys been gone but know im back,just recently watchad a match with andre and big John Studd from circa 1977.I have to say this confirms for me Andre was at some point 7'0".Studd may have been 6'7" at the time and Andre dwarfs him by 5.5 6 inches.I actually think he is close to 7'1" in this video,and Studd is not wide like he was taking growth hormone.its on you tube if you want to see it,and no matter his peak height he is one of the most massive humans that ever walked the earth.i think he was 7'0" till at least 1978 in the pic with Backlund with cinder blocks actually verifing his 7'0" stature.there are 5 or 6 pics with him standing very close to the blocks verifing it(although I know this is not totally accurate)it puts him in the that aria.Watch it and you will see how mobile he is he could probably still do a drop kick at this point but vince sr. told him not to he wanted him to act like an unmovable giant.
Johan 185 cm said on 9/Apr/19
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Like this one
Johan 185 cm said on 9/Apr/19
You have to look at older pics from the 70's and 80's. He was eyelevel with door frames when younger if he wasn't 7'then he was barely off it. Towards the end of his life he has a hunch and couldn't even stand properly.
Kunoichi said on 30/Mar/19
As I have been wondering for many years, the masked wrestler in this video is Ron Reis but his height is said to be 210 cm. His height was 210cm tall even when he was studying abroad in Japan.


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Erik C. said on 29/Mar/19
Sotiris


Its all good, man.:) I will try to send a pic for evidence though. Like maybe in a week or so. I promise im not trolling.


As for Andre the Giant ill give him 6'11 1/2 peak 6'10 3/4 midday.
Ellis said on 29/Mar/19
@The Ben: That's really interesting, I wish I was alive to see Andre wrestle, not that I'm that into to it, but just the fact that Andre was such a huge sports icon.
@Dan Trojan: That's a good point
@Melvin Jones: I agree with that, they always seemed to be around the same height.
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Mar/19
@Erik C. That makes more sense, dude. My bad. I was just foolin', not trying to hurt your feelings or anything. You don't have to prove anything to anyone. That said, if you feel like it, you can also use imgur.com to upload pics here. A cardboard cutout of Andre would be cool, though. :)
Dan Trojan said on 28/Mar/19
If i were to say who i thought was taller between show and andre i'd say show he seemed to always have more height on hogan than andre did
MelvinJones said on 28/Mar/19
I think Andre and Big Show were about the same height. Andre had the bigger chest and hands and wrists. Big Show had bigger shoulders and arms. Both are real giants.
Erik C. said on 27/Mar/19
@sotiris

I'll have a pic in a little bit good sir.👍🏻👍🏻
Erik C. said on 27/Mar/19
Sotiris

If you show me how, I can send a picture of me next to a 6ft8 door.
Erik C. said on 27/Mar/19
Sotiris

Also, Sotiris, idk how to post pics of myself. Do you know how?
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Erik C. said on 27/Mar/19
Sotiris

No. Sotiris, it was a typo. I already tried to post that it was a typo. I meant to say 6 foot FIVE. But it said GIVE instead.
The Ben said on 27/Mar/19
@Ellis
Thats a good one, to me peak Big SHow in 95 looked taller than Andre but WCW did have lots of 5'10 guys at the time.
When you see mid 70's footage of Andre he looks 7ft. Peak height I expect them both to be touching 7ft.
My first WWF in tour in 91 I saw Andre, stooped over on crutches and he was nowhere near 7ft, he was still taller than legit 6'5+ Earthquake though.
I saw Big Show in 03 and he didnt look 7ft either though but both have such strange proportions its hard to tell.
Boss said on 27/Mar/19
Andre and Big Show. Big Show would have the footwear advantage here.

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Sotiris Gravas said on 27/Mar/19
@Erik C. Dude, the reason ppl doubt your height claim is b/c it keeps changing every time you post something, lol. You now say your 6-foot friends come up to your nose/eye level -- as opposed to your previous statement where you allege that you have a full head on 6'1" guys. My best advice, take a full-body pic where you're licking the top of one of your doors and post it here. Preferably while standing next to a life-size cardboard standup cutout of Andre the Giant. Granted, blowing up a photo to accommodate Andre's massive size will be somewhat costly, but it'll be well worth the effort. I trust you'll have this done by the end of the week -- I know you won't let me down. I'll be waiting. Otherwise, ppl will simply assume that for whatever reason, you're telling tall tales (pun intended). Here's a website that can do it for you... Click Here They use better quality foam board.

Don't let us down, bro. Here's a pic of me and two other ppl... Click Here I'm the one w/ the blue pants.
Ellis said on 26/Mar/19
@Boss: Thank you lol
Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Mar/19
@62B Wow, 7" is a lot. I would imagine 4" is closer to normal. When I was 14, my mom and brother went to Greece for a month and they were startled by how skinny I got over the summer, partly due to my growth spurt and going to the local swimming pool every day. The craziest growth spurt would have to be that of Dennis Rodman. Not sure if Rodman's tale is bona fide or perhaps exaggerated poetic license.
Erik C. said on 26/Mar/19
@Boss

Oh my God dude people make freaking mistakes. And also you said ppl this tall would measure themselves for sure. How in the world would you know? I'm ending this conversation in respects to Andre. Whatever if you guys don't believe me. I honestly don't give a crap.
Ellis said on 26/Mar/19
Who do you guys think would be taller, a prime Andre the Giant or a prime Big Show, at their peak heights.
Boss said on 26/Mar/19
Measure yourself with a measuring tape end of story. This site is about Andre's height so I see no reason to be arguing about how tall you are when you could very easily measure yourself and if you were as tall as you say then you would have already measured yourself for sure. Plus how could your 6'7 coach come to your eyes and now your all of a sudden 6'6 coach comes to your forehead.
Erik C. said on 26/Mar/19
6'5*

Spelling errors.
cmillzz said on 26/Mar/19
I may have only seen one legit 7 footer in my life, Bill Cartwright. A legit 7’0 is like 1 in 4 million, so yeah, I’m going to be skeptical.
Erik C. said on 25/Mar/19
Ellis: Yeah I understand that it might seem strange. And I'm dead serious I have three 6 foot give friends who all come EXACTLY at my noseeye level. Depending on how compressed i am. And my 6'6" bball coach comes to my forehead or so.
62B said on 25/Mar/19
@Sotiris just wanted to comment on growth spurts a little. For me I was 5'3" at the end of my freshman year in high school. During the 3 month summer I grew to 5'10" by the beginning of the 10th grade. 7" in 3 months! The growth pains were horrible. People would comment that they thought they could actually see me growing. By the 11th grade I was 6'1"-6'2" and by my senior year I was 6'3". I didn't stop growing until 19 when in the Army at 6'3 1/4". Now at age 50, thanks to ankylosing spondylitis I have shrunk to 6'2 1/2".
Ellis said on 25/Mar/19
@Erik C.: You didn't cause a problem, I was just in disbelief of how tall you are, it just seems extremely rare to me and how you answer and respond makes me very skeptical if you are really that height. You do realize that you are inferring that you are a 7 footer which is crazy, and if it is true than that is amazing.
@Sotiris: I'm not just a normal someone, I literally almost a foot taller right now than I was when I turned 14, I had and am still on a massive growth spurt. I respect what you said I just didn't like how you engaged with me inferring you thought that I was trolling. Honestly, I don't care if people believe me or not because in the end I am 6'8, and that's that.
cmillzz said on 25/Mar/19
And lol @ 7 feet sounding “too good to be true”. I’d rather be 5’5 tbh.
cmillzz said on 25/Mar/19
Simple minded? It’s the internet, anyone can lie about anything. And on a height site especially, there’s probably a good chunk of posters on here who do lie about their height and troll.
cmillzz said on 25/Mar/19
@Ellis

you’re really not very bright and completely lack critical thinking skills if you think there’s even the slightest possibility that I’m Sotiris... LOL
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Mar/19
@Erik C. Dude, the fact that you're on this site and yet still haven't measured yourself as if tape measures don't exist comes across as very dubious. Think about it.
Erik C. said on 25/Mar/19
Lol guys I'm sorry if I caused a problem. 😂I really am being honest. I don't know how tall i am. All i know is i'm way up there and doors are too small for me. Seriously I'm not trying to troll. I can't change people's opinion's so it's completely fine if ppl don't believe me. If people on this site met me they would know. Lol.
Sotiris Gravas said on 24/Mar/19
@Ellis 1) I have a life and 2) the way you answered pretty much solidified what I think of your height. Whatever dude, I honestly couldn't care less.

P.S. Most of someone's growth spurt during puberty is done by age 16. Again, you said you were only 6'1" by age 15.




@cmillzz Maybe he's actually taller and pretending to be shorter...




@62B Most short ppl have no clue as to the height of tall ppl. They usually just ask how tall I am while giggling and don't take a stab at it. I hate entering and leaving a restaurant b/c ppl are seated and my height is accentuated. That's when ppl really gawk and that irks me somewhat. This one time, a lanky dude seated near me at a restaurant kept staring b/c I have a long torso and he was surprised that I was taller. At first I thought he was flirting or something, but he had his lady friend w/ him. Suffice it to say, we got up and left at around the same time and b/c of his long legs, we were pretty much the same height. What I really hate is when guys will actually get off the sidewalk and go on the street rather than walk by me, whereas women are super friendly and show no sign of being intimidated. That being said, at night, I will always cross the street rather than walk behind a woman who's by herself. That's when terror sets in and the cellphone gets whipped out, pretending to be on the phone w/ somebody, which is totally understandable. Sorry for rambling. Actually, one more thing... when I go speed-walking is the worst. That's when ppl look back in fear b/c they hear me coming, lol. I'm only 275 lbs now, but when I was 305 lbs, ppl were genuinely afraid, I kid you not. Having a beard makes it worse.
Ellis said on 24/Mar/19
@Cmillzz: It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if you are Sotiris, not saying that you are him but I mean come on man such a simple minded comment.
cmillzz said on 24/Mar/19
@Sotiris, wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if both were trolling.
cmillzz said on 23/Mar/19
I’m really struggling to see him at only 6’10” peak... Maybe near his death he was down to 6’10”, or possibly even a bit under.
Ellis said on 23/Mar/19
@Sotiris Gravas: Well it's quite simple actually, first off I had a massive growth spurt and I'm still growing bro, secondly when I say lip area I mean just under the nose. If you are looking for beef to satisfy your social needs this isn't the site for that, I just so happened to get caught up with a person who sounds 7 feet tall which sounds to good to be true, get a life.
62B said on 22/Mar/19
Sotiris, was wondering how often people guess you taller than you are, and by how much? Most people seem to guess me at 6'4" when my true barefoot afternoon/early evening height is now 6'2.5".
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Mar/19
@Ellis If I understand correctly, you've said that you're 6'8" in the morning. That would make your "real" height around 6'7.5" later in the day. How can a 6'1" person reach your lips? I wake up at 6'7.5" (sometimes 6'7.75"), and 5'11" reaches my lip area. Please explain. You said at 15 you were only 6'1", which I also find very odd. I was maybe 6'4.5" at 15. What you say doesn't add up, dude. Not sure if Erik C is trolling, but I'm left wondering if you are...
Halb said on 21/Mar/19
miko said on 18/Mar/19
If Andre ever saw 7'0 it was straight out of bed.

He looked 6'10/6'10.5 range in the 70/80's, could only look taller with cowboy boots or a box.

From around 1988/89 onwards when his health starting failing at times he could look under 6'10.
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I concur with that
Erik C. said on 21/Mar/19
@Ellis


Nah bro, im not trolling. Perhaps the adoms apple comparison was slightly exaggerated bc that's what it LOOKS like to me. It's more like i have a full head on a 6'1 guy and a 6'5 guy comes up to maybe my eyes. And ya dunk is easy.
Ellis said on 20/Mar/19
@Erik C: Lol you funny bro, a 6'1 guy comes up to your adams apple, last time I checked a 6'1 guy comes up to my lips. It's either you are a 7 footer or you are trolling. I can do two handed dunks on a 10 foot rim, can you do two handed dunks on an 11 foot rim, nice, want a medal?
Ellis said on 19/Mar/19
I truly believe that when he was younger and slender, mid 20s he saw 7 foot and yes closer to the morning but still he saw it if he ever checked, then after that he started gaining weight and the pressure on his spine gradually lessened his height. Yea guys he did see the 6'10 range but that was decades into grabbing people and picking them up 300 days a year, I think anyone would experience that much of a height loss if they were sporting 400 pounds of weight and constantly harming their spine. I let my case rest lol.
miko said on 18/Mar/19
If Andre ever saw 7'0 it was straight out of bed.

He looked 6'10/6'10.5 range in the 70/80's, could only look taller with cowboy boots or a box.

From around 1988/89 onwards when his health starting failing at times he could look under 6'10.
Tall In The Saddle said on 17/Mar/19
Agreed - never saw 7' let alone 7'4".

Height exaggeration is a professional obligation in wrestling. No harm no foul.

Was about 6'10" IMMHO but given acromegaly - even at that massive height - Andre still had the oversized hands, head etc. that would proportionally fit someone well in excess of 7 feet - so passing him off at 7'4" or more had some decent support - albeit illusory in respect of Andre's true height.
cmillzz said on 16/Mar/19
Peak height was pretty much 7’0. At worst maybe a fraction under.
Heisenberg89 said on 15/Mar/19
This guy never saw 7'.
Always been 6'10" range
Erik C. said on 15/Mar/19
@ Ellis

When ppl say, "wowww! you're so tall!". I just say. No i'm not, you're so short. Or when ppl ask me how tall I am, it annoys me so much I just reply, I don't talk about it. All i know im absolutely tower over my 6'1 sports coach. He doesn't even make it to my adoms apple. And i have a 6'5" coach who comes up to my mouth. My 6'7" former basketball coach comes up to my eyes. And i can literally lick my house doors if i wanted to caz they're so short. Which would make me over 6'8 i think bc i heard something about doorways only being 6'8". Also, perhaps i should go purchase a measuring tape bc i have what i would consider a "low" ceiling in my house and my head literally no joke is like a few inches away from the top. My dream is to keep growing and growing which hopefully i have loads of time since im 15 yro.
Erik C. said on 15/Mar/19
@Ellis

Yea, that's exactly what I do. Always make a serious face in public. It makes me extremely uncomfortable when ppl stare at me. I actually have never bothered to measure myself lol. All i know is i have to duck really far underneath doorframes and I've never met a single person in my lifetime that's taller than me since i was a kid (which i still am a kid lol). And to make me even more noticeable my legs make up like 95% of my body so i look freakish.
Ellis said on 15/Mar/19
@rawdshaq: I'm roughly 180 right now I think, I'm quite the slender fella at 6'8
rawdshaq said on 14/Mar/19
Just going to jump into this conversation but I was always a short fat kid growing up, I was about 5'4" I think at 15 and weighed around 210, and when I got out of high school I was 300 pounds and now I am gonna be 42 soon and I weigh 230 pounds and stand at around 5'9"
Ellis said on 13/Mar/19
@Erik C. How tall are you?, and you said you're fifteen, if so then that is really young, at 15 I was 6'1, I'm 18 and 6'8 now lol. But yeah, a tip is too always make a very serious face when walking and people will avoid you. Like I swear lol, just yesterday my friend and I were hanging out and he started talking to this girl next to us, and the first thing she did was walk up to me and said, "wow you are sooo tall" lol.
rawdshaq said on 11/Mar/19
Peak: 7'0 1/4"

1987: 6'10"

1993: 6'9"
Erik C. said on 9/Mar/19
@Ellis

Lmaoo that is so true that people only really ever ask if you make eye contact back at them. I thought i was the only person in this universe who understood that!😂😂😂

Tell me, does it annoy you when ppl ask caz i get asked 15 times a day at my gym when i duck through equipment, door frames, etc and it's annoying as hellllll to me. Especially when you're a 15 year old kid at that and you absolutely tower over grown men.
Azad said on 8/Mar/19
Wasn't he billed at 6ft 10 in the 1960s?
Ellis said on 7/Mar/19
This guy is a tough one, I'll give a shot though,
1970s: 7'0.25
1980s: 6'11
1990s: 6'10
Kinda like the Big Show and his height loss over the years.
@burnitdownhomies: I'm 6'8 in the morning, and I get asked a lot about my height the key is when you make eye contact then people ask you. Anyways, he was never 6'8 fully grown, he was mostly 6'10-6'11 range, at his peak when he was at his peak fame I would peg him at 6'10.5 which is quite a bit taller than I.
rawdshaq said on 2/Mar/19
Andre could have been 6'9 1/2" when he died.
oRiOn said on 27/Feb/19
burnitdownhomies said on 26/Feb/19
He was only 6'8. His billing at 7'4 is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes, his billing of 7'4 was ridiculous, but your claim that he was only 6'8 is even more ridiculous!!
Andre was 7'0 at his peak or very close to it. He was down to about 6'10 at the time of his passing.
RP said on 27/Feb/19
@rawdshaq, I think you have him mistaken for The Earthquake aka John Tenta.
burnitdownhomies said on 26/Feb/19
He was only 6'8. His billing at 7'4 is absolutely ridiculous.
rawdshaq said on 26/Feb/19
I heard Studd got measured at exactly 6'5.95"
Halb said on 25/Feb/19
Studd was 6'5½ - 6'6½" imo
RandomFan said on 24/Feb/19
Cool topic—maybe 7ft morning measurement when young, got gradually less over time. Andre also had longer arms than Big Show if you look at comparisons, and arm length “kinda” plays into height also, along with shoulder width for reaching and grabbing, etc. I saw a pic of Big John Studd a number of years ago with a guy who is in my profession who was about 6’0 225 and could bench press 430 lbs. The guy was dwarfed by BJS but BJS also gained fat after he retired when the pic was taken, and he surely had tall boots on cuz I was told by the “small guy” that BJS was 6’9....anyway, BJS was a big step down from André, and most of us are two big steps down from BJS!!!
Kunoichi said on 23/Feb/19
I think that Studds must have wore platform boots in this match.


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Matthew james hill said on 23/Feb/19
Peak andre barefoot was 5.5inches taller than big john studd making him 7ft tall barefoot so if studd was a full 6ft7 andre was 7fthalf a inch barefoot in the 1970s in my opinion
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Feb/19
Bruce Prichard (aka Brother Love) said Undertaker wore lifts in his boots. Should we believe him? Isn't this the face of a man you can trust...? Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Feb/19
@HarveyFinkelmatter Thanks, dude. I'll have to look into it. Given that it was believed The Duke wore lifts, it would be hard to say for certain. For all we know, maybe he wore custom-made cowboy boots giving him more height than the standard 1.75" heel. When he appeared on "Phil Donahue" (1976), a 6'0" Donahue referred to him as possibly being 6'2", to which he quickly interjected, "Four!" He looked more 6'2.5" in that video clip, and Wayne was getting on in years, so height loss was a definite reality. Of course, he could've been in lifts there, too. :) Whereas Jesse Ventura wasn't a fan of Hogan and could have said Hogan wore lifts just to spite him, Rock Hudson and Wayne were supposedly friends and Hudson still claimed Wayne wore lifts and had small feet.



@RoelC The fact that said co-author believed Studd wore 4" lifts to be eye-to-eye w/ Andre certainly detracts from his credibility... Whether Hogan wore lifts or not, both he and John Wayne benefited from a cowboy boot boost.
HarveyFinkelmatter said on 21/Feb/19
Hey Gravas, how tall do you think John Wayne is? A Photoplay article from 1930 describes him as 6'2 and 198 pounds. Your posts are the best. Thanks.
RoelC said on 21/Feb/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Feb/19
@Boss We all hear rumors that wrestlers wore lifts... seeing it in print in a book like "Sex, Lies, and Headlocks," or having Jesse Ventura say that it was indeed the case definitely lends credence to it being factual and not just something to dismiss as mere hearsay. Thanks for posting that. I wonder how many others might have worn lifts...
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It might not be hearsay, but just because it's written in a book does not make it true. Mike Mooneyham was one of the co-authors of the book 'Sex, Lies & Headlocks' and he also claimed that Big John Studd wore 4-inch lifts in his boots so he could look eye to eye with Andre the Giant.

The same book also claims Andre was about 6'11".

I would take anything Jesse Ventura says about Hogan or anything Hogan says about Ventura with a huge grain of salt. It's no secret that those two guys hate each other and have been bashing each other in interviews for over 25 years.

If Hogan wore lifts, it does not make Andre any taller. It would make Hogan shorter. Hogan stood next to many people besides Andre, and he never looked more than 6'6" in his footwear, unless he was wearing cowboy boots. Hogan only looked 4 inches taller than Vince McMahon and about 3 inches taller than Tony Atlas back in his early WWF days.
Besides, why in the blue hell would Hogan were lifts when he's facing off a guy like Andre. Who was the giant in the WWF again?
Boss said on 20/Feb/19
I don't know how anyone could read that whole thing and have any doubt about what Jody Hamilton saw unless they're just trying to support their own agenda. He was very adamant about it and detailed or he wouldn't even have mentioned it. Just by reading the emotional response to the Fabe comments I have absolutely no doubt he was telling the truth. I would love to find that old tv footage from NWA Allstars wrestling in Vancouver of the measurement but maybe someday it will pop up online somewhere. Haystacks Calhoun was wrestling for them in this era as well which adds more credence to the story. He also mentions the fact that Andre wasn't wrestling in North America at this time which was absolutely correct and he's going back 35 years here. Andre's enormous head size and posture make him look shorter in comparison with tall people as his head was 3" longer or more than most people he's being compared to. So their natural height reference points are higher but Andre's head is much longer than their heads which we can see in the Wilt pics.
Andre definitely lost height over his life but could still look 6'10" even at the end. He was too big to fit in the crematorium in France which could only accommodate up to a 6'10" man. I believe the whole 6'10" thing came from Andre's earlier billings as Andre still grew in height until early 1970's. He started wrestling at 17 in 1964 and grew in height till age 24-25. Anything else is just speculation or guessing.
Boss said on 19/Feb/19
Here is Terry Todds full response that didn't post for some reason


terry todd, July 12, 2010:

JT,

I just became aware of your post and thought I’d respond. I agree that the Big Show of ten years ago would be very close to Mark in shoulder breadth. I saw him many times during that period and he was truly broad–and also very strong in his shoulders even though he didn’t push it in the gym even then. Regarding his hand size relative to Andre’s, having been around both quite often I have to disagree as I believe Andre’s hands were significantly wider than Big Show’s–just as
Andre’s feet were much larger in both length and width than Show’s.

I agree with your general points about Howard, although he’s so much wider than almost all of the other NBA big men that his measurement would be interesting to see–although not up in the Henry, Williams, and Show category. As for Andre’s height, he was a good 7′ early in his career, and maybe a bit more, but age, a terrible back, and gravity brought him “down” a peg or two. I saw him on several occasions when he weighed over 500 pounds, but I also saw him in Georgia shortly after he cam down from Canada and I suspect he was within 15 pounds of 400, one way or the other. This was about 40 years ago; I went backstage to meet him, interview him, and take a few photos with him. I still recall how “inhuman” he looked and how amazingly agile he was. For example, at one point in the match he ran across the ring, jumped over the top rope, caught the top rope in one hand for contril as he went over, and landed on the floor just outside the ring
Halb said on 19/Feb/19
I like listening t James E Cornette on the vangaurd channel on yt. He mentions André in a recent one, that 'André was 7 feet, or close to.' Back in the 70's at his heyday.
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Feb/19
Sorry, I forgot to post the pic of Iceman Parsons next to 6'3" (billed 6'6") Terry Gordy (1987):
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Here's Gordy next to ANDRE (1992)... Click Here


Gordy w/ 6'5" (billed 6'8") David Von Erich... Click Here


Von Erich and a tiptoeing ANDRE... Click Here
Boss said on 18/Feb/19
Here is Terry Todd who was 6'2" spenthe time with both Andre and Paul Wight replying to JT on who was taller and bigger of the 2 giants.

JT, May 29, 2010:

Dr. Todd,

If you have the opportunity, your getting some shoulder, wrist and hand measurements of Paul Wight (wrestler Big Show) could be revealing. He’s probably close to Mark Henry’s width.
Wight back in 1999-2000 was arguably wider than he is now. His hands are also about as wide as Andre the Giant’s were but not as long. Like Wight and Andre, Dalip Singh (wrestler Great Khali) has a huge frame and hands as well due to acromegaly/gigantism and is the tallest of the three.

A shoulder measurement of Dwight Howard sounds interesting but would probably be disappointing. With television screens now in the 16:9 format, everyone looks wider than they really are. If you switch the screen to the old 4:3 format, Howard still looks wide but not quite as impressive. His square (rather than sloped) shoulders and narrow waist also add to the illusion of width. At a legit 6’10”, he’s still a remarkable athlete.

I really enjoyed your SI article about Andre the Giant. As Andre has since passed away, can you share some insight on his real height and overall size? After factoring in the afro and cowboy boots that he almost always wore outside the ring, my best guess is that he was actually closer to 6’10” and probably around 425-450 lbs. when you interviewed him. Wight is roughly 7’0” (he was listed as 7’1” as a center for Wichita State) and generally looks at least 2 inches taller when standing next to the same people that Andre did (or when standing next to persons of the same height that Andre did). Thanks!
Boss said on 18/Feb/19
Here is the whole story about the measurement in Vancouver aka Traveller mentioned Jody Hamilton was not trying to Fabe us and Jody Hamilton who was present for measurement sets record straight



 


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In 1968 in Vancouver, BC. Andre was measured on TV and Haystack Calhoun was weighed, the measurement and the weigh-in was legit. Andre measured 7ft. 1 & 1/4 in. and Calhoun who claimes to weigh 601 lbs. actually weighed 558-I think. I know it was 550-something.
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1968?

[ponders]

Andre made his debut in 1964, and wins the IWA tourney in Japan in May 1971.  First Toronto appearance (after wrestling in Montreal for a year or more) was Oct. 17/71.

When did Carpentier and Valois bring him over from France again?  Thought it was '69.......?

(Note:  I'm not doubting it was done, I'm just a little mystified on the timing of it.....)
The Traveller
a fan since '68....

"The reason so many of us fans here complain about wrestling today is because Mr. Thesz spoiled us" -- barry jordan
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Maybe it was really one of those Jack Pfeffer sound alike wrestlers.

You know, like Laundry the Giant and Hayseed Calhoun.


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Quoted from: joe hamilton, ---

In 1968 in Vancouver, BC. Andre was measured on TV and Haystack Calhoun was weighed, the measurement and the weigh-in was legit. Andre measured 7ft. 1 & 1/4 in. and Calhoun who claimes to weigh 601 lbs. actually weighed 558-I think. I know it was 550-something.



How do you know the measurements were legit?  Those guys gimmicks were their sizes, why would they risk hurting their ticket sales by letting shoot weights and heights be made public?  Andre also had big hair.  He could have been 6 ft. 9 with three or four inches of hair
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I have absolutley no reason to doubt that Mr. Hamilton saw what he saw, or is trying to "'fabe us".

I'm just wondering about the time-line....
The Traveller
a fan since '68....

"The reason so many of us fans here complain about wrestling today is because Mr. Thesz spoiled us" -- barry jordan
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Well The Assassins and Haystack Calhoun were in Vancouver during 1968 on the card listed below and several there after.

May 6, 1968 - Kovacs; Vancouver
The Assassins b. Don Leo Jonathan & Sky Hi Jones ... Paddy Barrett b. Abdullah the Butcher ... Haystacks Calhoun b. Bad Boy Shields & Jack Bence -Handi-cap match ... Tex McKenzie b. Karl Von Steiger ... Armand Hussein b. Eric Froelich

Vance's site only lists house show cards for Vancouver. No TV listings.
Heh, if we counted all the held up titles in particular AWA areas and cities, Nick Bockwinkel is a 50+ time Champion--khawk20
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Quoted from: travlr, ---

I have absolutley no reason to doubt that Mr. Hamilton saw what he saw, or is trying to "'fabe us".

I'm just wondering about the time-line....


I don't have to "FABE" you as you put it, you do that to yourself. In case you haven't heard Kay-Fabe in wrestling died about 15 yrs. ago. It remains alive and well in other pro-sports however. When I attempt to answer questions I do it with the purpose in mind of being as accurate as I can, but when we talking well over 35 yrs, ago I may not have the dates exact, but if I tell you something happened it DAMN well happened and I remember it well or I don't mention it. The TV station that carried our wrestling show had coverage all over Canada, and Andre, who had not started wrestling there yet was doing advance publitity and a commentator on that station didn't believe he was that big or Calhoun weighed that much, so to prove him wrong, they taped a segment for his show pryor to taping our wrestling show. If you knew the commentator, who was always knocking wrestling you would know it was legit.
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Excellent!

Well, to add some to Mr. Hamilton's notes, the TV show was carried via most of the CTV Network stations throughout Canada (although not by the network itself, which was a little strange).  The announcer in question might have been Ron Morrier, who was brought in by Gene Kiniski.  Ron worked for Vancouver All-Star for over 20 years, as well as working at BCTV in other capacities.  Big Thunder never told Ron what was going to be happening, so he was always surprised, and showed it.  He was prettymuch loved by the local/regular workers in
Boss said on 18/Feb/19
This is the most detailed account out there of Andre being legitimatey measured. Andre was probably in shoes or wrestling boots for the measurement.

Click Here


Click Here
Boss said on 18/Feb/19
62B said on 17/Feb/19
@ Boss. What year did Hogan go AWA? I was certain that when I saw him in 1980 he was AWA and a little taller than my 6'4" grandfather. If Hogan was wearing lifts in 1980 then I cant even put him at 6'5".


In 1981 after filming Rocky against the bosses wishes he started with AWA. He wrestled with WWWF from late 1979 to 1980 with him having a fued with and losing to Andre at Showdown at Shea in August. He went to Japan and then made his debut in AWA in 1981.
62B said on 17/Feb/19
@ Boss. What year did Hogan go AWA? I was certain that when I saw him in 1980 he was AWA and a little taller than my 6'4" grandfather. If Hogan was wearing lifts in 1980 then I cant even put him at 6'5".
Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Feb/19
Andre and maybe 6'5" Don Slatton... Click Here


Andre and 6'7.5" Giant Haystacks... Click Here


Just for fun, here's Andre coming out of a car... Click Here Getting in and out of a car must have been sheer agony for this guy.

Here's Giant Haystacks getting out of a car... Click Here



And, of course, for my pal Pdoggy... Click Here :)




I WANT YOU GUYS TO SEE THIS:


Tiger Conway Jr. w/ Don Slatton (1979)... Click Here
Tiger w/ Ernie Ladd (1978)... Click Here
Tiger w/ Johnny Valentine, billed 6'4" (1975)... Click Here

Tiger and Iceman Parsons... Click Here
Parsons and 6'3" Terry Gordy (1987)


Tiger Conway Jr. (billed 5-11) with Steve Keirn. .. Click Here
Steive Keirn and 5'10" Rick Martel... Click Here


Steve Keirn and Andre the Giant and maybe 5'6" Mike Graham... Click Here
Same pic, but w/ more tiptoe... Click Here



So, how tall do you think Don Slatton, Ernie Ladd, Johnny Valentine, and Andre looked here by using Tiger Conway Jr. as a benchmark...?
Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Feb/19
@Boss We all hear rumors that wrestlers wore lifts... seeing it in print in a book like "Sex, Lies, and Headlocks," or having Jesse Ventura say that it was indeed the case definitely lends credence to it being factual and not just something to dismiss as mere hearsay. Thanks for posting that. I wonder how many others might have worn lifts...
Canson said on 17/Feb/19
Barkley is not 2” taller than Jordan even in that pic. Also realize that people on the right side look taller than those on the left. Jordan also has said that Barkley and he are the same height and Jordan is 6’4.5 as well. As for the pic with Barkley and Magic it is not a good pic. Obviously the first one below shows Magic looking much taller but if Barkley is really 6’6 and Magic 6’7 which he is today that would not appear that much of a difference

Click Here

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Terry porter with 6’4.75 measured Michael Redd (looks the same amount of difference with barkley and porter) if not more

Click Here
Boss said on 16/Feb/19
Charles Barkley is not a good person to use for judging heights cause alot of times he looks at least 6'6" range. Like here standing perfectly in line with Jordan. Barkley looks almost 2" taller than Jordan.

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Charles Barkley and Magic from playing days.
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Charles and Magic more recently.
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Also Hogan isn't great for comparison because of his height loss and when Hogan was hired by WWF back in the day. Vince Sr gave Hogan a thousand dollar sequence robe and a pair of boots with lifts in them so they could bill him taller than his 6'5" range height. Hogan had much bigger boot souls on the outside if his boots than Andre. We know now he was getting more help with internal lifts so Andre would be an extra 1.5" - 2" more barefoot than Hogan in any wrestling boot comparison photo. This is also probably why Hogan gets a 6'6" barefoot height because of his lifts. Jesse Ventura also said Hogan wore lifts and Jesse is a pretty straight forward kind of guy.
Click Here
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Sotiris Gravas said on 16/Feb/19
@Canson Here's a pic our good friend aaronius might enjoy: 6'4.5" Charles Barkley and 6'2 3/8" (not 6'4 3/8") Shawne Merriman... Click Here

Merriman and 6'0.5" Trump... Click Here

W/ 6'7" Magic... Click Here

Reality... Click Here vs. fiction... Click Here


Just for fun... 6'4.5" Charles Barkley, Hulk Hogan, and the same person... Click Here Hogan would like ppl to think he's still 6'4.5", when he clearly isn't. The photo wasn't even superimposed properly, as Hogan and that guy should be slightly lower.


The Rock still tells ppl he's still 6'4.5", even though he's now 6'2" and was once 6'3"... Probably b/c of fiction like this which claimed he was 6'5"... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Feb/19
@Halb It's always weird when someone on here thanks me rather than calling me a troll. Thanks, Halb. And thank you for putting in the effort to spell my name correctly. :)
JT said on 15/Feb/19
Kritiker said on 30/Jan/19

With all due respect: Some of the pics used here for comparing are relatively useless. Here is why:

- In many photos you can´t see their feet. Stance, footwear, ground, angle etc. will change the whole situation. See the infamous Wepner/Andre staredown. First, Andre is looking way down on. Second, there are other pics from this encounter where you can see Andre is in wrestling boots, while Wepner wears cowboy boots. Mystery solved.

Mystery solved – Wepner was not wearing cowboy boots with Andre. Click Here The doctor wasn't either....

Boss said on 13/Feb/19

Here is Andre and Studd both in dress shoes with Andre closer to the camera. There is a huge difference.

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Andre was wearing brown cowboy boots in that Micki and Maude movie Click Here Not sure what Studd's footwear was.
Halb said on 13/Feb/19
The pics do help Sotiris, thanks for them
Boss said on 13/Feb/19
Here is Andre and Studd both in dress shoes with Andre closer to the camera. There is a huge difference.

Click Here
Boss said on 13/Feb/19
Big John Studd is way closer to the camera in that pic with Andre which makes him look taller than he actually is.
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Feb/19
@Pdoggy The man who posts nothing but useless comments and no pics wants ppl to post what he determines to be "quality," not quantity. Dude, you wouldn't know quality if it hit you in the face (not that I'm advocating violence, mind you, only humor)... Click Here , Click Here

I'm just teasing, of course. You know how fond I am of you.


As for Facebook, here's 6'7" Mathias Doepfner w/ 5'7" Mark Zuckerberg enjoying each other's company, the way we do... Click Here
Texas Tom said on 13/Feb/19
That definitely isn't Bockwinkel in the pic with Studd and Andre.
rawdshaq said on 12/Feb/19
I think Giant Baba was a legit 6'10".
Sotiris Gravas said on 12/Feb/19
I forgot to mention that I think the guy in the middle of Studd and tiptoeing Andre was Nick Bockwinkel (billed 5'10").


@Canson :)


@62B Nice pic of Dusty and Mascaras. Here's another one I found, though, not good for gauging heights... Click Here

Dusty wearing his own mask as Uvalde Slim... Click Here

Here's a pic I've never seen before of Dusty (far left) and Giant Baba (1982):
Click Here
Pdoggy said on 11/Feb/19
Just a reminder just because you find a picture of two people does not mean you need to post it this is not Facebook. Post pics of quality not quantity
Texas Tom said on 11/Feb/19
I've usually been in the Andre 6-11 camp, but have to admit in the latest pic with 6-6 and 1/2-ish BJS, he seems to be struggling with 6-10, and this is Andre in his prime, standing straight and even on his toes a bit. The only way I can see to upgrade Andre is to upgrade Studd too, who did not look a full 6-7 next to Fralic.
Canson said on 10/Feb/19
@Aaronius: JT and Sotiris are nothing alike with their estimates so I don’t believe that they’re the same person. JT while fair has also said that Barkley And Jordan are 6’6. Sotiris says that both are 6’4-6’5 which they are. Even though Sotiris has low estimates at times as well. Nobody is perfect here. But it’s not right to accuse JT of being Sotiris
62B said on 9/Feb/19
@ Soritis here is a good example of why pictures are not always what they seem. In your picture of Andre, Dusty and Milmascaras, Mil and Dusty look about the same height. And it looks like for all intent and purposes a good picture to judge height. Here at the same event and probably time Click Here Dusty looks several inches taller than Mil, and also looks to be a good picture to judge height.
Canson said on 8/Feb/19
@aaronius: it’s no different than Shawne Merriman’s 6’4 3/8 measurement. His Pro Day was 6’2 3/8. That’s also supposed to be barefoot yet he’s over a full inch shorter than 6’4 3/8 measured Shilique Calhoun and shorter than other guys who are 6’3 and 6’4”. If you see the video with Martellus Bennett 6’6 1/8 that’s near a 4” difference. Not to mention that the combine is held early morning. Truth is NFL can make mistakes just as anyone else could and who is to say someone doesn’t pad their socks if they aren’t asked to remove them
Canson said on 8/Feb/19
@aaronius: it’s no different than Shawne Merriman’s 6’4 3/8 measurement. His Pro Day was 6’2 3/8. That’s also supposed to be barefoot yet he’s over a full inch shorter than 6’4 3/8 measured Shilique Calhoun. If you see the video with Martellus Bennett 6’6 1/8 that’s near a 4” difference. Not to mention that the combine is held early morning. Truth is NFL can make mistakes just as anyone else could and who is to say someone doesn’t pad their socks if they aren’t asked to remove them
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Feb/19
Nice pic of Andre on his tippy toes w/ Big John Studd... Click Here





Dusty Rhodes and Gorilla Monsoon... Click Here
Footwear... Click Here

Dusty and Flair w/ Giant Baba... Click Here
Flair and Blackjack Mulligan... Click Here

Dusty and Superstar Billy Graham... Click Here





Dusty and Andre (w/ Mil Mascaras) for comparison... Click Here

Giant Baba w/ Mil Mascaras (and Dory Funk Jr.)... Click Here



Hope this meets aaronius' stringent approval, LOL. Heaven forbid they're not to his liking...
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Feb/19
Here are some nice pics Vegas has posted in the past, as well as others I'm including...



1) An autograph seeker and 6'5" Tarik Glenn... Click Here



2) Same guy and 6'6" (not 6'6.5") Viscera... Click Here

a) Viscera and Kane (footwear?)... Click Here
b) Viscera and maybe 6'1" Rikishi (current height 6'0")... Click Here



3) Same guy and John "Earthquake" Tenta... Click Here

a) Tenta and Giant Baba... Click Here
b) Baba and 6'1.5" Inoki... Click Here
c) Baba and Hogan... Click Here
d) Baba and Andre... Click Here
e) Baba listed as 6'6" as babaseball player... Click Here




4) Same guy and The Rock... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Feb/19
@aaronious I love your erroneous claims, aaronious... NFL draft measurements are morning heights, mind you... and 6'2.5" peak height is what Rob the editor has him at. He'll be happy to know that you think he, too, is a downgrader. Before he died, Vader was shorter than 6'2.5", as is clearly visible when he was dwarfed by 6'3.5" Snoop Dogg. (To be fair, JT and I have never been seen together in the same room, so, you never know...)
aaronius said on 7/Feb/19
how many people here think Sotiris is actually JT in diguise, using crappy angles in less than adequate pictures, and downgrading everyone, as if everyone in the world, all all liars about their height
aaronius said on 7/Feb/19
i love how everyone wants to downgrade Leon White to 6'2.5" for his peak height, which he may very well have been before he died, just so they can downgrade Hogan.

his draft measurements for the los angeles rams put him at 6'4 1/4" in 1978, thats legit. NFL draft measurements are ALWAYS barefoot
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Feb/19
Ozzy Perhaps 6'2" is too low for Hogan. 6'2.5" seems fair.


Here's Hogan w/ 6'4" Dusty Wathan (2018)... Click Here

Dusty Wathan and 6'3" Jason Kelce (2018)... Click Here

Hogan and 75-year-old 6'4 peak height Charlie Manuel (2018)... Click Here


Hogan and 6'3" Titus (billed 6'6") (2015)... Click Here
Boss said on 7/Feb/19
Whether you believe Andre was 6'11" or 7'1". He was a true giant. They don't come any bigger than Andre.

Click Here
NCL said on 7/Feb/19
Regardless of whatever their heights were in these pics, I'd say there's a 4" difference here Click Here and a 5" difference here Click Here

What are all your thoughts?
Ozzy said on 6/Feb/19
@Sotiris Gravas .. yeah mate. I think today Hulk is around 6'2.5"(my guestimate) Prob 6'3 in boots. In his prime I thought a long time ago he was max 6'5". I used to have a hard time believing he was 6'6" let alone 6'8" lol... He always looked 2" shorter than Sid Eudy & Taker.... I seen an article about 15 years ago that said Andre was actually measured at 6'10", when you compare Hulk if 6'5 & chuck Wepner 6'5"? ... it seems more likely ...
Pdoggy said on 6/Feb/19
@Tree
Quality pic from wm3
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Feb/19
@Kritiker The footwear on 100% 6'2" IRS is clearly visible, he's not in Big Show heels. Do Hillbilly and Hogan look more than 6'4.5", maybe 6'5" next to him...? No, they don't, regardless of Windham, who I know was 6'4", despite ppl here thinking he was taller. Hogan was never 6'6".

As for Hogan being over 6'3" today, the short answer is no... Click Here I post pics like this and ppl still want to say he's 6'3" or over; come on, guys, seriously...


@Pdoggy Let me get this straight... if ppl post pics you like, all is well w/ the world. If they don't... they're trolls. Got it. FYI: the pics I post are not doctored in any way, shape, or form. The "lonely" comment did make me laugh, though. I can't decide whether you're a clown or a comedian.


@RP Agreed on 6'5" for Coppock.
tree said on 5/Feb/19
@Sortis U want a fair pic with Hogan AND andre? Click Here
Higan may have shrunk to 6ft4.5 in by 1944 but he was closer to 6ft6 peak in WSM3
A 6ft6 Hogan makes a 6ft11 Andre by WSM3.
Kritiker said on 5/Feb/19
@Sotiris Gravas I get your point. But most of your pics are misleading.

For example the pic of Hogan, Hillbilly, IRS and Windham:
- All of them are looking down with Hogan and Hillbilly even leaning on the interviwer.
- Nobody said Windham was a short man. At least 6´4" back then. But as you can see he is wearing cowboy ring boots with high heels.

The you compare 70 year old versions (Slaughter) to men in their prime. That just does not work. My father was measured at 6´3.5" for military and was down to 6´1.5" in his mid 50´s. Of course you loose height with age. And most wrestlers who normally weigh more than average people, compete in a physical sport and get injured can loose more than we might think.

I estimate Hogan at a little over 6´3" nowadays and 6´5.5" in the 1980´s. In the HBO documentary photos about Andre he has Triple H by a good 2 inches at least.
Pdoggy said on 4/Feb/19
@Boss
You got to know that there are trolls on here downgrading by a couple inches year after year we see them come and go and they never last all they do is come up with lower Heights by a couple inches they downgrade everybody just to Spur people into conversation or debate with no real factual evidence. Maybe they are lonely, not sure. Your post on the other hand are pics that actually can be used in some fashion to determine a closer actual height for these celebrities
Sotiris Gravas said on 4/Feb/19
@Boss Hogan and 6'2.5 Vader (1994)... Click Here

6'3.5" Snoop Dogg and Vader... Click Here

6'6.5" Sid Eudy and Vader... Click Here , Click Here
Sid and maybe 6'3" Robert Fuller... Click Here


Sid and Hogan... Click Here , Click Here





6'2.5" Vader and Andre... Click Here
Hogan and Andre... Click Here , Click Here
RP said on 4/Feb/19
@ Sotiris ...a strong 6’5” barefoot...a weak 6’6” in dress shoes & a strong 6’6” in sneakers for a Peak Chet Coppock...IMO, from sizing him up with WWF, NBA & NFL players from that era.
rawdshaq said on 4/Feb/19
Lets be be honest, doesn't that claim that he was measured 6'9 3/4" seem legit? I have Andre at 6' 10 1/2" - 6' 11" right now, but after photos the 6'9 3/4" claim does seem legit.
Boss said on 3/Feb/19
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Feb/19
@Gretz Sorry, I goofed and forgot to include the Hogan/Covert/Otis/Coppock pic. Here it is now:
Click Here


@Boss Coppock is closer to the camera. They do look close in height. In this e-mail he says that Jordan was only "a little shorter"... Click Here The problem is despite being listed as 6'6", Jordan was never more than 6'4.5".

This is Coppock nowadays next to 6'5" peak height Reggie Theus... Click Here

Here's Theus nowadays next to now 6'4" Rick Barry... they're now both 6'4", putting Coppock at around 6'2" now... Click Here

Here he is next to Road Warrior Animal, who's only 6'0" now... Click Here So, Coppock is now 6'2". Do I think he was really 6'6" back then and that he lost 4 WHOLE INCHES...? No. He was never more than 6'5".

So, just a reminder: a 70-year-old Coppock who used to be 6'5" is now around 6'2".

Hogan is now 65 years old. And I do think Hogan is closer to 6'2" than he is 6'3".
Boss said on 3/Feb/19
Hulk was same height as 6'5 Tiny Lister in platform shoes. He was taller than many 6'5 range guys here.

Click Here
Boss said on 3/Feb/19
Chett Coppock was 6'6 and he looks every bit of it with Michael Jordan and plenty of other people of known height. I don't know how anyone could say Jordan was taller than Coppock in that pic.
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Feb/19
@Gretz I'll begin w/ this Mark Henry pic... Click Here

Then this... Sgt. Slaughter/Mick Foley/Booby Roode pic... Click Here

Next, this Brian Knobbs/Norman Smiley pic... Click Here

And I'll throw in this Jimmy Hart pic for good measure... Click Here




Now that that's out of the way, I'll address your thoughts on Hogan. Here's a great pic of 6'2" IRS, along w/ 6'4" Barry Windham (His dad, Blackjack Mulligan, was 6'5). You'll notice Hillbilly Jim and Hogan in back. I really don't think both men tower over IRS or Windham:
Click Here

I honestly don't think Hogan was over 6'4.5". Maybe I'm wrong and he was 6'5" and Hillbilly was 6'4.5"...

Here's Hogan next to 6'4" Jimbo Covert and 6'2" Otis Wilson. That other guy is Chet Coppock who claims 6'6". Problem is, he was around the same height as 6'4.5" Michael Jordan:
Click Here Jordan actually seems taller IMHO.

Hogan and Coppock were around the same height in this pic, but we don't know if he was in his cowboy boots... Click Here

For me, 6'5" for Hogan would be the absolute max.

One more pic of Hogan w/ Andre... and Piper (1987)... Click Here
184guy2 said on 2/Feb/19
@Rob

Which is the minimum to Andre's head lenght , in your opinion ???
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Feb/19
6'2.5" Ali & 6'6" Clint Walker (1967)... Click Here ,
The other dude is fellow Greek Telly Savalas, maybe 5'10.5". Who here used to watch Kojak? He was into lollipops long before LL Cool J.

One more of Ali and Walker... Click Here




Ali and 6'7" Ernie Ladd... Click Here





Ali and 6'1.5" Inoki... Click Here , Click Here


Andre and Inoki... Click Here
Gretz said on 1/Feb/19
Gravis and the rest of you consider the fact that Hulk Hogan always would like an inch taller than Hillbilly Jim,back in the day.Now Jim is pretty well verified at 6'5"-6'5.5",this tells me Hogan probably topped out at 6'6".And even in 1984 when he won the belt,Andre came backstage and poured Champagne on Hogan`s head and Andre clearly had 6 inches on him and these are better camera angles than from the ring.So to me Andre was very close to if not 7 foot tall even in 1984,there are reports of back stage people saying Andre was 6'10.75 at WW3(some guy would measure Andre when he went through a certain door where he estimated his height before).and this is all speculation,but even Hogan claimed Andre was weighed on a scale at the air port at 680 although I dobt it.
Boss said on 31/Jan/19
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Boss said on 31/Jan/19
Here are lots of good Andre photos. Andre's head was 13" range which is also shown here in these photos. If someone came up to a tall persons chin say a basketball player and that same person came up to Andre's chin then Andre would be at least 2 to 3 inches taller than the tall person. So the person could come up to the top of Andre's lip or bottom of his nose and come up to the tall man's chin and they would still be same height because of Andre's enormous head size. Also, Andre rarely displayed good posture.

Click Here
Phenom89 said on 31/Jan/19
@kritiker

Agree, above all i agree that many of the 6'7 billed guys never saw really that height.
But about the shoes i think kane and big show are on an other level compare to Undertaker, i dont remember super big boots for him.
Kritiker said on 30/Jan/19
With all due respect: Some of the pics used here for comparing are relatively useless. Here is why:

- In many photos you can´t see their feet. Stance, footwear, ground, angle etc. will change the whole situation. See the infamous Wepner/Andre staredown. First, Andre is looking way down on. Second, there are other pics from this encounter where you can see Andre is in wrestling boots, while Wepner wears cowboy boots. Mystery solved.

- Some are really out of proportion. JT has done that on occasion, especially with Andre. It is just impossible for Andre to have the same head, let alone frame size as others. The man had acromegaly and weighed way over 400 pounds for most of his career. Using Mean Gene as a key figure can be misleading, too.

-Footwear in general: I know Andre used to wear cowboy boots in the 1970´s. But not so in the ring. In fact Andre´s boots were relatively flat. Whereas Big Show for example wore pretty thick boots, especially in his WCW days. Let alone guys like Kane or Undertaker.

My thesis may be controversial, but I think both Andre and Big Show at one point in their respective careers peaked at around 6´11". Big Show used thick boots to look over 7 feet, Andre had his afro. Later both lost some height. Andre, due to surgery, weight and untreated acromegaly may have lost a bit more than Show, but I don´t think he got lower than 6´9.5"

I honestly think most wrestlers billed over 6´7" did not even reach that number.
NattyK said on 28/Jan/19
I don't think the dude could stand up straight after age 25. Also there is a really indepth review on Paul Wight actually being taller, with photo evidence.
tree said on 26/Jan/19
Sortis u used to think tenta was 6ft3 when u compared him to mean gene but when i told u his not under 6ft5 u dodnt beleave,well better admitting later then never,looks 6ft5.5 with sting
Pdoggy said on 23/Jan/19
Hogan had about a half inch on Tenta. Who was just under 6'6.
HarveyFinkelmatter said on 23/Jan/19
Great stuff as always Sotiris Gravas. Thanks .
Undertaker Frank said on 22/Jan/19
In some Pictures Tenta looks 1 to 2 inches taller than Ottman I Believe Tenta is probably 6ft 5 @ best and he also can be 6ft 4ish it Ottman is a Legit 6ft 3
Pdoggy said on 22/Jan/19
: Sotiris tries. I’ll give him that but a lot of the pics he’s posted have not been very good for determining height

Nicer not so grinch like. I forgot the world we live in everyone is so sensitive
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Jan/19
@HarveyFinkelmatter Good question dude. Agreed, no way Prowse was as tall as 6'7". Maybe he was a Hulk Hogan 6'4.5" who also likes to lie about his height, LOL... He doesn't look that tall next to a supposedly 6'2" Irvin Kershner... Click Here


Here he is (footwear advantage) next to 5'7" Mark Hammil... Click Here

W/ 5'11" Peter Cushing... Click Here

Cushing and 6'4.5" Christopher Lee... Click Here


5'7" Hammil and 5'11" Cushing... Click Here

Irvin Kershner and 6'2" Sean Connery/footwear advantage (1965)... Click Here


Kershner and Peter Mayhew... Click Here

Prowse (might be on tiptoes) and Mayhew... Click Here

Prowse looking short here w/ Mayhew... Click Here


It's funny how even a tall guy like Mayhew would lie about his height, telling ppl he was 7'3" when he was more like 7 feet tall (currently 6'10").
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Jan/19
@Pdoggy Dude, I recently posted pics of Vince McMahon and Sting, whose heights are not really disputed, against heights that are (guys like Giant Baba and Earthquake), a far cry from your supposed "nothing." It's called comparative analysis. Also, you said the way I post "random" pics proves nothing. Please enlighten me, all-knowing sage, how does one decide which pics are supposedly random and which aren't...? As usual, your comments are the height of absurdity (no pun intended, I think). Happy 2019, grinch.
Boss said on 21/Jan/19
Earthquake John Tenta was legitimately measured for sumo wrestling at 6'5.75". He clearly has several inches on 6'3" Typhoon. Scroll down page and there are lots of examples.


Click Here
Canson said on 21/Jan/19
@Pdoggy: Sotiris tries. I’ll give him that but a lot of the pics he’s posted have not been very good for determining height
Pdoggy said on 19/Jan/19
Sotiris as usual all you do is post pics that do nothing in proving height. Just posting random pics does nothing.
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Jan/19
@Pdoggy Giant Baba and 6'1" peak height Vince... Click Here

John Tenta (Earthquake) and Baba... Click Here
Earthquake and 6'2" Sting... Click Here
Baba and Hogan... Click Here


Fred Ottman (Typhoon) was and still is 6'3", seen here w/ Earthquake... Click Here



@HarveyFinkelmatter Thanks, dude. Much obliged, kind sir.
HarveyFinkelmatter said on 18/Jan/19
SotirisGravas - Do you want to take a stab at Dave Prowse? Definitely not 6'7. Thanks.
Pdoggy said on 15/Jan/19
Henry said on 13/Jan/19
Earthquake was measured at a PROVEN 6'5.95" Barefoot so it just proves that everyone on here reduces people's heights by 1.5 to 2 inches.

Agreed.
HarveyFinkelmatter said on 15/Jan/19
Thanks Gravas. You always post great pictures.
Sotiris Gravas said on 14/Jan/19
@Undertaker Frank I agree w/ you about Ladd being 6'7" flat, no way 6'9"... Here's Ladd w/ another Ernie, billed 5'7" Ernie Roth... Click Here

5'5" Takahashi and Ladd... Click Here
Takahashi and Hogan... Click Here , Click Here




@Danimal 5'7" Mad Dog Vachon puts Verne Gagne (tiptoes) at around 5'9"... Click Here

Nice pic of Verne (thin soles) and Andre (cowboy boots/BIG heels) and Arnold Skaaland 1974: Click Here At 6'7", a 5'9" person reaches my chin level.
dewie 5ft9 175cm said on 14/Jan/19
Andre the giant at age 17 was 6ft10 140 pounds age 20 7ft0.25 214cm 475 pounds.
miko said on 14/Jan/19
The same Danimal that is obsessed with Hogan losing 5 inches and Will Smith being 6 foot tall? Haha.
Undertaker Frank said on 13/Jan/19
I believe Ernie Ladd was about 6ft 7 i dont believe he was 6ft 9
Undertaker Frank said on 13/Jan/19
I believe Ernie Ladd was about 6ft 7 i dont believe he was 6ft 9
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 13/Jan/19
JT said on 8/Jan/19
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rawdshaq said on 5/Jan/19
….Peak: 7' 1 1/2"
At death: 6' 10"
(fyi Im just going to the middle and putting 7 feet as my guess)

You may want to reconsider Andre’s height as well Click Here

Still at it, eh JT? You've been on a crusade for over 14 years now. Are you going to be obsessed with Andre's 6'10" peak height until you die? It's really sad how you just can't break free, year in and year out. It never ends, does it?
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 13/Jan/19
Andre with 5'7" (billed 5'9") Maurice "Mad Dog" Vachon in the mid-late 1980's: Click Here
oRiOn said on 11/Jan/19
Mr. McSmack said on 10/Jan/19
If you look at André early in his prime(between 1975-1981), I believe he was almost 7’3”, he stood taller than a lot of big guys like blackjack Mulligan, and Ernie Ladd, who was 6’11”. But because of his acromegaly, it compressed his spine so bad, and by the time WrestleMania 3, he was about 7’1/2”. They exaggerated his height definitely, but not by much. And also in WrestleMania 3, he was listed as 520lbs. When in reality he was about 605lbs. Either way he was one of a kind and still one of my favorite wrestlers ever.

LOL. Ernie Ladd wasn't 6'11. There is a video on YT, where Ernie admits to being 6'9. Andre was about 3-4" taller than him, so that would put Andre around 7'0...maybe 7'0.5 at his peak.
Sotiris Gravas said on 11/Jan/19
@HarveyFinkelmatter I used to think Andre wasn't "very" tall when looking at pics of him next to a 6'5" guy like Chuck Wepner. Maybe he was 6'11" when he was young and thin... Before he died, maybe as low as 6'9.5". To be honest, I'm still not sure... (I once accidentally substituted a Harvey Wallbanger w/ fecal matter in cake recipe; my dinner guests were not amused.)


Here's Andre next to cinematographer Bryan Greenberg (on the right) from the late 70s from the wrestling "documentary" "I Like to Hurt People" (released 1985)... Click Here

Greenberg w/ Bobo Brazil (billed 6'6")... Click Here

5'9" Pedro Morales (billed 5'10") w/ Brazil... Click Here

FYI, at 6'7", the top of a 5'9" guy's head reaches my chin level.
miller said on 11/Jan/19
no more than 6.11 at peak and barely 6.10 at wm 3
edwards said on 10/Jan/19
the guy is legit 7 footer,dont know whether he was strong or weak 7 footer
Mr. McSmack said on 10/Jan/19
If you look at André early in his prime(between 1975-1981), I believe he was almost 7’3”, he stood taller than a lot of big guys like blackjack Mulligan, and Ernie Ladd, who was 6’11”. But because of his acromegaly, it compressed his spine so bad, and by the time WrestleMania 3, he was about 7’1/2”. They exaggerated his height definitely, but not by much. And also in WrestleMania 3, he was listed as 520lbs. When in reality he was about 605lbs. Either way he was one of a kind and still one of my favorite wrestlers ever.
Halb said on 9/Jan/19
Great pic of Studd and André. Look fairly close there. And is André tiptoeing on his rear foot?
HarveyFinkelmatter said on 9/Jan/19
So how tall does Sotiris Graves think Andre really is? You all have a great site. Thanks.
Canson said on 8/Jan/19
@184guy: lol. Maybe the casket
JT said on 8/Jan/19
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rawdshaq said on 5/Jan/19
….Peak: 7' 1 1/2"
At death: 6' 10"
(fyi Im just going to the middle and putting 7 feet as my guess)

You may want to reconsider Andre’s height as well Click Here
Monkey knees said on 7/Jan/19
WWF bumped 4/5 inches on his height in the 80s. Barely touched 7ft peak. Late 80s heyday was 6ft 20in tops. Weight gain/health problems buckled his body, sadly.
184guy2 said on 6/Jan/19
@rawdshaq

HAHAHA Peak and Current ? For who ? His bones and skeleton ?
rawdshaq said on 5/Jan/19
Another wrestler who was a lot shorter than I thought. Andre the Giant was measured at 6' 9 3/4" I read. And based off photo evidence that seems realistic. You can just round up and say he is 6' 10". I love Andre the Giant, not a hater at all. He was still clearly the strongest wrestler and most feared in the locker room. He was easily over 500 pounds, too. Surprised he doesn't have a peak and current height.

Peak: 7' 1 1/2"

At death: 6' 10"

(fyi Im just going to the middle and putting 7 feet as my guess)
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Jan/19
Maybe Bigelow was as low as 6'1", seen here again w/ 6'2.25" Lawrence Taylor:
Click Here
I'm guessing there was some tiptoe action here, LOL... Click Here


Look at how short DiBiase looks here w/ Bigelow, despite being in he foreground:
Click Here One of many pics where DiBiase does NOT look tall.
Dustin M Williams said on 5/Jan/19
Old 1992 Andre with Bam Bam looks taller than a peak Nash to me.
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Jan/19
6'1.5" Bigelow and Nash... Click Here , Click Here


Bigelow and Andre... Click Here


Bigelow and 6'2.25" Lawrence Taylor... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jan/19
Andre and Rene Goulet (billed 6'0") in 1981... Click Here

Goulet and Chris Taylor (supposedly 6'5") in 1973... Click Here


Andre and Iron Sheik (billed 6'0")... Click Here
5'5" Takahashi and Sheik... Click Here


Just for fun, Andre and Flair, similar pose... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jan/19
Andre and Karl Gotch (billed as 6'0.5" as well as 6'2"), seen here in flip-flops:
Click Here

In the ring... Click Here

In dress shoes... Click Here


Gotch and Giant Baba... Click Here

Gotch and Inoki in the ring... Click Here
Gotch, Inoki and Lou Thesz (billed 6'2") in dress shoes... Click Here
Gotch, Inoki, and Billy Robinson (billed 5'11") in dress shoes... Click Here
62B said on 30/Dec/18
184guy2 said on 28/Dec/18
@Sotiris
Here we can clearly see theirs feets and Andre looks taller than in the first pic
Click Here
BTW:
Rick Rude 6'3-6'3.25
King Kong Bundy 6'4
One Man Gang 6'6ish
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Great footage. I would have been about the same height as Rude when I saw Andre in 1988, and he stacks up pretty much how I thought I did. Eyes around Andres collar bone area and top of head around the bottom of Andre's mouth
Sotiris Gravas said on 30/Dec/18
@184guy2 Here's King Kong Bundy next to 6'1" peak height "Al Bundy":
Click Here Not so sure the King Kong Bundy was really 6'4".

Here's a recent pic of now 6'0" Ed O'Neill (Al Bundy) next to Rick Barry, who's now 6'4":
Click Here

Rick Barry and 6'4.5" Charles Barkley (2015)... Click Here
62B said on 28/Dec/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/Dec/18
Andre w/ Bundy and One Man Gang promo pic... Click Here

Now, same group shot, but notice how Andre looks WAY(!!!) taller, most likely standing on a "Hogan Rocky III box"... Click Here

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I agree, probably standing on something in the second picture, He was the furthest away from the camera in both pictures though so not really the greatest for height comparisons. Looking at his hair though (as this was the time frame I saw him) I'm not sure its a full inch thick from the top of his scalp like I was thinking. Thick for sure though.
Canson said on 28/Dec/18
@62B: I certainly agree and I feel that those estimates are superb! I could buy a near 7’ Andre in his early 20s and 6’10-11 later in life
184guy2 said on 28/Dec/18
@Sotiris
Here we can clearly see theirs feets and Andre looks taller than in the first pic
Click Here
BTW:
Rick Rude 6'3-6'3.25
King Kong Bundy 6'4
One Man Gang 6'6ish
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/Dec/18
Andre w/ Bundy and One Man Gang promo pic... Click Here

Now, same group shot, but notice how Andre looks WAY(!!!) taller, most likely standing on a "Hogan Rocky III box"... Click Here
62B said on 27/Dec/18
@Canson. I am guessing The top of Andre's head coming up to the bottom of Smits eyes, because I felt the top of Andre's hair would have been about brow level to Smits
62B said on 26/Dec/18
Canson said on 25/Dec/18
@62B: I’d say 7’3” barefoot
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That's what I have mainly been basing my guess of Andre's height on. That and the fact that he was taller than a guy I knew at the same time who was 6'9". Smits was not quite a half head taller than a 1988 Andre. His head looked to be average on a very tall lanky body giving him the appearance of a pin head. I'd Guess Smits head no longer than 9.5" with Andre coming up just under eye level so probably about 4"shorter giving me my guess of 6'11" for Andre in 1988. I have no problem believing a 6'11" morning Andre dropped closer to 6'10" in the evening and probably being 6'10.5" in the afternoon. A younger peak Andre was probably at least a 1/2" taller and probably held his height longer throughout the day. I don't think its unreasonable to believe a peak Andre could have been 7' out of bed and held it for an hour or so, probably dropping to 6'11" evening and being somewhere in between through out the day. So that is how my brain is working. Let me know if you think I'm off somewhere, because I certainly could be. Lol
Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 26/Dec/18
rawdshaq said on 23/Dec/18
I watched the movie on Andre on HBO and they said he was 7-4. I think he got back surgery and went down to 7 feet tall.

You need to rewatch it, because they never said he was 7'4". They said he was 214cm, which is 7'0.25", which was his tallest height BEFORE he started to shrink, both due to posture, ankle injury, back surgery and knee surgery.
RP said on 25/Dec/18
Meltzer has also claimed 6’11.5” for Andre. He’s actually claimed 6’11.5” for Andre just about as many times he’s claimed 6’9.75”...so, which is it Dave? 6’11.5” or 6’9.75”??? Maybe Dave thinks a peak André was 6’11.5” & the broken down late 1980’s to early 1990’s André was 6’9.75” ??? Which is pretty accurate. Give or take a 1/2” inch.
Kunoichi said on 25/Dec/18
IMO,Dave Meltzer does not even know whether this match was held in Japan or in Montreal.

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Canson said on 25/Dec/18
@62B: I’d say 7’3” barefoot
62B said on 25/Dec/18
@Vegas. First I have heard of that
Vegas' said on 24/Dec/18
62B, Meltzer met Andre. He he wrote about the time he brought his legit 6'8 basketballer friend along to size Andre up with him.
62B said on 24/Dec/18
@Soritis. What height would you give a peak Rik Smits? I stood just as close to him as I did Andre.
Chaz Howell said on 24/Dec/18
JT said on 18/Dec/18
Click Here Not sure who the other guy is but he’ll be around 6’2”.
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yes that is Haystacks,he was billed as The 7' 35st Mighty Goliath,down under.that should tell you something about Andre's real height,that they had to up Haystacks billed height,
Sotiris Gravas said on 24/Dec/18
I posted some new Andre pics w/ Pat Patterson on Kevin Nash's page. Go check it out.
Sotiris Gravas said on 23/Dec/18
@62B a short Arnie (not 6'2") makes sense when looking at him w/ a 5'9" Bruno Sammartino:
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Here's a fairly recent one of Arnie, Bruno and a 6'0.5" Trump... Click Here

Look at him w/ a 5'9.5" Sarah Douglas... Click Here


Here he was w/ 6'2" peak height George H.W. Bush (RIP)... Click Here ,
Click Here Bush was maybe 6'1" in those pics w/ Arnie, back in 1988.. That puts Arnold at around 5'11", a man who might wear lifts nowadays. I used to think he was no more than 6'0".
Sotiris Gravas said on 23/Dec/18
@Takerfan Sorry if I goofed and confused one guy for the other, but are you sure that's Ted Whitten...?
JT had posted this pic recently, and it says Larry O'Day, not Whitten:
Click Here There's no indication of anyone on their tippy toes...

It does make more sense that O'Day is taller than 6'0"...
RM2 said on 23/Dec/18
Andre is a tough person to peg as far as height goes. He had such unusual proportions, plus a wide, often bent-knee stance. I don't buy anything under 6'10", though. I'm 6'1" and I believe it would take more for me to be eye-to-eye with him than stepping up on the first step of an average staircase.
rawdshaq said on 23/Dec/18
I watched the movie on Andre on HBO and they said he was 7-4. I think he got back surgery and went down to 7 feet tall.
RoelC said on 23/Dec/18
62B said on 21/Dec/18
@Gretz Click Here I know Arnolds height was a hot topic during the Conan movies. My chiropractor met Arnold and got a picture with him in the early 2000's. Arnold had obvious footwear advantage and poofy hair but was still noticeably shorter than my chiropractor who was just shy of 6'2". I also have a 6'2" high school friend that met him and said he thought Arnold was really short.
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This website has several measurements from Arnold in the 60's. They were posted in bodybuilding magazine IronMan way back in July 1967. It looks like he was measured at 6'1 at age 17 and still measured at that height at age 19.

6'1" sounds a believable height for a peak Arnold. The purpose of the pics of Arnold, Wilt & Andre was to show how small Arnold was compared to those two giants. They might've used some trickery to make Arnold look smaller than he really is.
RoelC said on 23/Dec/18
Takerfan said on 22/Dec/18
Sotiris, I don’t know where you are from and not sure where you get your heights from but the guy on the left with that Ron Miller pic is Ted Whitten an AFL footballer.
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The guy on the left is Larry O'Day not Ted Whitten. Him and Ron Miller were an Australian tag-team with the very original name called "The Australians".
Several websites have Ron Miller listed at 5'11" or 6'. Not sure what the sources for those listings are. I haven't seen much of Australian wrestling, so I don't know what Miller was billed at while being a pro-wrestler.
Takerfan said on 22/Dec/18
Also in that pic, Ted is on his Tippy toes.. I think your trying to degrade Andre
Takerfan said on 22/Dec/18
Sotiris, I don’t know where you are from and not sure where you get your heights from but the guy on the left with that Ron Miller pic is Ted Whitten an AFL footballer. I’ve met him and I’m 6ft on the dot, he was a tad taller than me. So I’m not sure where you got Ron Miller at 6ft 🤔 just to let you know that in 1984 I met Andre in a bar in Melbourne Australia.. Trust me he would’ve been very close to 7tf if not a tad above. Not only was he tall but massive all round. I’ve seen 7ft Basketballers and they looked around that height guys like Andrew Bogut I’ve met so on. There’s no way Andre was under 6’11 around that time..
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Dec/18
Andre and 6'0" Ron Miller JT pic enlarged... Click Here

Andre and then 6'2" Trump... Click Here

W/ 6'2" Beefcake (1991)... Click Here



Stu Hart (billed 5'11") and The Mongolian Stomper (billed 6'2")... Click Here
Stu Hart and Andre (big pic, both in cowboy boots)... Click Here
Stu and 5'10" Bobby Hull w/ Andre (big pic)... Click Here
One more time for comparison , Mongolian Stomper and Andre... Click Here
62B said on 21/Dec/18
@Gretz Click Here I know Arnolds height was a hot topic during the Conan movies. My chiropractor met Arnold and got a picture with him in the early 2000's. Arnold had obvious footwear advantage and poofy hair but was still noticeably shorter than my chiropractor who was just shy of 6'2". I also have a 6'2" high school friend that met him and said he thought Arnold was really short.
62B said on 21/Dec/18
RP said on 20/Dec/18
@ 62B in the Duggan vs Andre staredown pic.
6’11” vs 6’2.5” IMO. Is that pic from 1988? I think that’s when Andre & Duggan had a little mini feud ?
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I believe that was from 1988. I'd say your guesses are pretty good for both, but would most likely be morning heights. I figure Duggan probably didn't drop below 6'2 1/4" back then as he was 34. Andre's body was already breaking down in 1988 even though I think he was only 42 and had probably started to loose height. I thought Andre was more 6'11" than 6'10" when I saw him, but it was mid morning. He probably wasn't over 6'10.5" by the time he got into the ring with Duggan that night.
Pdoggy said on 21/Dec/18
Tall thin 7 Foot people usually stand straighter than somebody who 7 ft tall and over 300 pounds Andre was 200 plus pounds heavier than that so when you're that big you tend to Lumber not stand perfectly straight. Thin pencil neck geeks don't get that.

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You are correct in saying we need not go with opinion or speculation or guessing we need to go with fact. Guessing from pics is an awful way to gauge people's Heights you don't know if the ground is level or the thickness of the shoes are none of it is certain and it is all speculation.
62B said on 20/Dec/18
michael loughrie said on 19/Dec/18
If you watched the documentary on him this year, they stated he was actually measured at 6' 9" 3/4, and weighed 477 pounds
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That's a Dave Meltzer claim. He claims he talked to a French athletic committee that has no real name, no telephone number, no name of the person he "talked" to verify said claim. What it really is, is a Dave Melter opinion. If a peak Andre was 6'9 3/4" then so was a peak Paul Wight. Terry Todd's answer to a direct question from JT was that Andre was 7' or a bit over when younger and lost a peg or two when older. He also went on to say Andre's hands and feet were bigger and longer than Paul's. So who do you believe? A guy like Meltzer who thinks its his calling to dispel all kayfabe and get noticed, or a guy like Todd, who in the past stayed in kayfabe during the 70's or 80's sports illustrated article, but was fairly direct in his answer to JT? Personally. For myself, I know a late 80's Andre was between 6'10" and 6'11". I'm a tall guy (6'3"at the time) that stood right next to Andre and was able to size him up. I'm pretty sure unlike Todd, that Meltzer never met Andre
Gretz said on 20/Dec/18
Look I want to bring up the the Andre,Arnold,Wilt photos up,apparently after seeing 6 or 7 of them now something is wrong(in some pics when Andre brings up his huge head they look nearly the same height,I know Andre has a foot ware advantage but lets not forget Wilts big wig).Yet in those pics they look up to 15.5-16 inches taller than a 6'1.5" inch Arnold this is not possible.The only way I can reconcile this is Arnold was never more than 5'11",the heights just don`t add up it`s the only way these pics work.i mean I think Andre was only 6'11.5" here,anyone have any thoughts on this?
RP said on 20/Dec/18
@ 62B in the Duggan vs Andre staredown pic.
6’11” vs 6’2.5” IMO. Is that pic from 1988? I think that’s when Andre & Duggan had a little mini feud ?
michael loughrie said on 19/Dec/18
If you watched the documentary on him this year, they stated he was actually measured at 6' 9" 3/4, and weighed 477 pounds.
62B said on 18/Dec/18
Yep, because that's where 6'2"+ Jim Duggan came up to Andre Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Dec/18
@JT Great pic of Andre and Studd together. Too bad about Fralic...


@Gretz Thanks for the kind words, dude. Much obliged. I'm not really sure about Dutch. Don't think he was ever more than 6'2". Here he is again w/ a barefoot Snuka... Click Here

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Andre and the Mongolian Stomper (billed as 6'2")... Click Here
Abdullah the Butcher and Mongolian Stomper... Click Here
Bruiser Brody and Butcher... Click Here

Andre and barefoot Butcher... Click Here

Snuka and Ox Baker (billed 6'5")... Click Here
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Snuka (barefoot) and Paul Orndorff... Click Here
Canson said on 18/Dec/18
Maybe 7’1”-7’1.5 in shoes if he measures right out of bed at his absolute peak.
Boss said on 18/Dec/18
RP said on 17/Dec/18
@ Boss, looks like the measurements were taking with his shoes on? Your theory would suggest about a 7’2” Andre with shoes on? IMO, his peak height with dress shoes on was 7’1”...7’0”-ish barefoot.

Yep I mentioned that he was probably wearing his dress shoes for the measurement but I do think it's his legitimate measurements as the writing on the paper is not meant to be seen. It's not my theory I just rather see facts then guessing.
JT said on 18/Dec/18
Click Here Not sure who the other guy is but he’ll be around 6’2”.
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RP said on 17/Dec/18
@ Boss, looks like the measurements were taking with his shoes on? Your theory would suggest about a 7’2” Andre with shoes on? IMO, his peak height with dress shoes on was 7’1”...7’0”-ish barefoot.
Sotiris Gravas said on 16/Dec/18
@RP God bless you, dude! I'm very thankful to still have them in my life.
Canson said on 16/Dec/18
6’11 range peak
Gretz said on 16/Dec/18
Gravis your parents are very good looking people you should be very proud of your heritage.And thanks for posting that pic of Andre and dutch Savage it`s actually better then the one I tried to post.I know we disagree on Andre`s peak height by an inch or so,but i feel like I have met a true friend posting with you and that`s hard to come by.In fact if i ever have problems with anyone I will tell them I will send my monster friend Gravis to take care of you.And Boss you have been carrying the banner for A 7 foot Andre proudly for many years.Just take a look at his year book of Andre and it might just change your mind.Gravis what is your opinion of Savage`s height I am thinking billed 6'4" but closer to 6'2".
Michael Allen said on 15/Dec/18
7' in the 70s
6'10" around WM 3
6'9" around 1991 (when Earthquake kayfabe broke his leg with Jimmy Hart's megaphone)

I remember watching Wrestlemania 7, where Andre came to the ring with the Big Boss Man (billed at 6'6, but was probably closer to 6'4) Andre looked around 4 inches taller maximum.
RP said on 14/Dec/18
Sotiris, great pic of the folks! You favor your father a lot. Beautiful couple. Great parents are a blessing.
Boss said on 13/Dec/18
Andre at the tailor in early 1970's and the paper in the tailors hand has Andre's actual measurements on it. His backdrop which is from bottom of his shirt collar to the floor is 74" or 6'2". So this is around the top of his shoulders. You still have his massive head and part of his neck to measure. Hard to argue with facts.

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Boss said on 13/Dec/18
Here is Andre and Hogan face to face. You couldn't find a better picture for comparing head sizes. Andre's head comes out 13.05" long. Andre's torso was also very long compared to others. Andre's backdrop measurements from the tailor pics from the early 1970's that were posted here many times before was 6'2" probably in his dress shoes he was wearing that day. Backdrop is from the top of his collar to the floor and is actually supposed to be measured in socks. You still have his head to go on top of that. Andre's head was probably around 3" longer than Wilt's head and Wilt had longer legs than Andre. By the time you reach the tops of their heads they are very close in height.

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Gretz said on 12/Dec/18
Thanks for the kind words GRAVAS MY BIG FRIEND,I don`t know how you found it I have never seen this pic of Arnold and Andre but it looks like circa 1986 and Andre only looks 6'10,5"-6'10,75 at best here.That is his height at WM3 I.M.O.,now the pic with KANE AND Rand Paul(even with his head tilted slightly to the left,I don`t see more then 6'7"-6'7.5.i know he was billed at 7'0" at one time,don`t know why he was never as tall as Big Show and maybe an inch taller than taker.perhaps he lost an inch over the years,i know if he stood next to you he would be lucky to have a fraction on you.I didn`t think Jackman was that tall,all i can tell you Gravis when you work out skip dead lifting a man of your height is going to risk herniated disks.I was only 5'11.5" and went to 5'10" after injuring my back deadlifting,look at poor Ronnie Colman now he can barley walk doing 800 lbs. for a double.and graham and Benoit are tradgedies at the aoutopsy he had the brain of an 80 year old man.And had know idea Arnold lost one of his testicles,the steroids have bad side effects if you take them too long.
Sotiris Gravas said on 11/Dec/18
@Gretz Here's a pic of my mom (and dad) back when she was 57, looking more beautiful... and taller:
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62B said on 11/Dec/18
A young Bigshow with thick boots Click Here Doesn't really look any taller than an older Andre to me
62B said on 10/Dec/18
Pretty sure this match was from 1988 Click Here the same year I stood right behind Duggan and the same year I got knocked down by Andre. I know most on this site think Duggan was 6'2", but really he was a fraction over at the time. Somewhere around 6'2 1/4" to maybe 6'2 1/2".
Pdoggy said on 10/Dec/18
Richard Mulligan 6'1 right next to Andre standing straight lines up the same way all people of similar height do.

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