How tall is Andre The Giant

Andre The Giant's Height

7ft 0 (213.4 cm)

Andre Rene Roussimoff was a French Wrestler and Actor from The Princess Bride. His official site gives him 7ft 4, also shows his 'measured' height from wrestlemania 3 (1987) as a whopping 7ft 5. He suffered from acromelagy and was supposedly 6ft 7 age 17. His spine took a lot of damage over his career. In 1971 Andre claimed to be "214cm" (Just over 7ft) at a weight of 171kg.

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7ft 0in (213.4cm)
Michael Allen said on 15/Dec/18
7' in the 70s
6'10" around WM 3
6'9" around 1991 (when Earthquake kayfabe broke his leg with Jimmy Hart's megaphone)

I remember watching Wrestlemania 7, where Andre came to the ring with the Big Boss Man (billed at 6'6, but was probably closer to 6'4) Andre looked around 4 inches taller maximum.
RP said on 14/Dec/18
Sotiris, great pic of the folks! You favor your father a lot. Beautiful couple. Great parents are a blessing.
Boss said on 13/Dec/18
Andre at the tailor in early 1970's and the paper in the tailors hand has Andre's actual measurements on it. His backdrop which is from bottom of his shirt collar to the floor is 74" or 6'2". So this is around the top of his shoulders. You still have his massive head and part of his neck to measure. Hard to argue with facts.

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Boss said on 13/Dec/18
Here is Andre and Hogan face to face. You couldn't find a better picture for comparing head sizes. Andre's head comes out 13.05" long. Andre's torso was also very long compared to others. Andre's backdrop measurements from the tailor pics from the early 1970's that were posted here many times before was 6'2" probably in his dress shoes he was wearing that day. Backdrop is from the top of his collar to the floor and is actually supposed to be measured in socks. You still have his head to go on top of that. Andre's head was probably around 3" longer than Wilt's head and Wilt had longer legs than Andre. By the time you reach the tops of their heads they are very close in height.

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Gretz said on 12/Dec/18
Thanks for the kind words GRAVAS MY BIG FRIEND,I don`t know how you found it I have never seen this pic of Arnold and Andre but it looks like circa 1986 and Andre only looks 6'10,5"-6'10,75 at best here.That is his height at WM3 I.M.O.,now the pic with KANE AND Rand Paul(even with his head tilted slightly to the left,I don`t see more then 6'7"-6'7.5.i know he was billed at 7'0" at one time,don`t know why he was never as tall as Big Show and maybe an inch taller than taker.perhaps he lost an inch over the years,i know if he stood next to you he would be lucky to have a fraction on you.I didn`t think Jackman was that tall,all i can tell you Gravis when you work out skip dead lifting a man of your height is going to risk herniated disks.I was only 5'11.5" and went to 5'10" after injuring my back deadlifting,look at poor Ronnie Colman now he can barley walk doing 800 lbs. for a double.and graham and Benoit are tradgedies at the aoutopsy he had the brain of an 80 year old man.And had know idea Arnold lost one of his testicles,the steroids have bad side effects if you take them too long.
Sotiris Gravas said on 11/Dec/18
@Gretz Here's a pic of my mom (and dad) back when she was 57, looking more beautiful... and taller:
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62B said on 11/Dec/18
A young Bigshow with thick boots Click Here Doesn't really look any taller than an older Andre to me
62B said on 10/Dec/18
Pretty sure this match was from 1988 Click Here the same year I stood right behind Duggan and the same year I got knocked down by Andre. I know most on this site think Duggan was 6'2", but really he was a fraction over at the time. Somewhere around 6'2 1/4" to maybe 6'2 1/2".
Pdoggy said on 10/Dec/18
Richard Mulligan 6'1 right next to Andre standing straight lines up the same way all people of similar height do.
Halb said on 9/Dec/18
THat pic of Hugh and Ryan is interesting
Canson said on 9/Dec/18
I swear some of these statements are just lazy and copout statements. Barkley is a sloucher and what if Kobe’s wife measured him at night? The measurement at night is no less valid than one of these athletes measuring less than an hour out of bed and being listed as such. But nothing is ever said about someone who measures at 6 or 7 am but there’s an issue with a measurement at night? An evening measurement doesn’t vary from an afternoon measurement by much maybe 1/8” tops. In many cases, your afternoon and evening measurements will be identical especially if you aren’t on your feet. In fact you can gain height if you are laying around on the couch or sitting on a couch after you get home in the evening
Editor Rob
They were very quick to remove his wife's statement on instagram, I remember when the visitor mentioned, many of us would have read it...the next day it was gone like that. I wonder if Kobe told her 'delete that ****'!
Sotiris Gravas said on 9/Dec/18
Arnie and Wilt (equal 0.5" footwear)... Click Here

Arnie (maybe 6'0.5" peak, footwear advantage) and Andre... Click Here , Click Here


Andre and 6'0" Don Stansauk (1984); nice JT pics... Click Here , Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Dec/18
@Gretz I feel bad for Graham. Even worse for Chris Benoit and his family...

I'm curious, how tall do you think Kane looks next to 5'6.25" Rand Paul...? Click Here
Guanzo said on 8/Dec/18
Andre looks 7ft in this picture

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Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Dec/18
@Gretz Thanks for the kind words about my mom. You're a true gentleman. She's a cute 80-year-old. This is Hugh Jackman (that Rob lists as 6'1.5") next to 6'2" Ryan Reynolds... Click Here , Click Here
Either there's a disparity in footwear... or heavy lifting for Wolverine has taken its toll in terms of height for Jackman. I try not to go too crazy at the gym w/ things that will compress my spine over time. I only recently learned that Arnie lost a testicle due to steroid use. Yikes!


@Johnnywalker... Please expound a little w/ that one, dude. Too much Johnnie Walker, perhaps...?
Gretz said on 6/Dec/18
By the way Mike Graham passed away in october 2012 from a gunshot wound to the forehead,what goes through the minds of all these wrestlers that die young that they either kill them selves or die from steroid abuse just tragic!If you even go through the last 10 years there are hundreds of wrestlers that died under the age of 60 because of suicide or drug abuse.
Gretz said on 6/Dec/18
Gravis that pic with Debra Harry is one of those odd pics where I think Andre should look taller.Just like in the bobby Hull pic he looks very tall(the one on the baseball field and Hull`s height is documented by a team of scientists to be 5'10" and his son Brett looks an inch taller than his father and is almost always listed at 5'11").Anyway I think he looks 16.5 inches taller than Debra to almost 18 inches(as I think Andre had a 12.5 inch head)that makes her around the 5'6" you estimated it`s a hard estimate to say the least and not a pic I would like to use to determine his height i.M.O in those high heels.and if you consider your pupils to the top of your head 5 to 5.5 inches(mine is)valiant could be 8 inches taller than harry,assuming she has large heels on again.but it does get harder to estimate heights when one person is 5'5" and the other 7'0".By the way Gravis you poor guy to shrink to 6'7" in the afternoon,I would have been happy with a 6'0" listing.
Johnnywalker said on 6/Dec/18
Wow Gravis. Most people shrink when they get older but your mom has grown two inches. That has to be a first Gravis.
Michael 5'10", 178 cm said on 6/Dec/18
Andre was at least 7'0", he wasn't that much shorter than Wilt in both of their primes. He was either 7'0" or slightly under 7'1" at his peak. Not 6'10"-6'11" or 7'4"-7'5" like some people say.
Gretz said on 5/Dec/18
Gravis I have no doubt that you are 6'7"(maybe Rob should set up a page for you!)and your mother is a beautiful woman.I.M.O mike Graham is closer to 5'6.5" it`s hard to tell with shorter guys but Andre could easily have 18 inches on him he may even be bent slightly to avoid the pipe at his head level.He is never going to be taller than he is there got to be circa 1976-78,in fact on the W.W.E channel graham claims Andre drank 156 16oz. cans in one sitting!And on a personal note in 1985 when I was in 12th grade i Was measured in gym class in socks at 5'11.5" and at the docs office under one of those machines.Fast forward to 2001 I injure my back dead lifting and measure 5'10" so these wrestlers taking bumps night after night really do lose height.So don`t get injured lifting Gravis you might drop to a mere 6'5.5"!
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Dec/18
@Gretz For what it's worth, I measured my parents again earlier today and told them to stand as straight as humanly possible, to really go for it... My mom measured in at 5'6" and my dad at 5'9.5". Granted, they weren't walking around all day at a shopping mall, so that helps w/ avoiding height loss. Also, I'm pretty sure my mom had on a 1.5" heel in that pic I posted.

So, in shoes, I'm at least 6'8", and my mom was maybe 5'7.5" in shoes, whereas Andre and Graham are in wrestling boots w/ maybe a 0.25" sole.


Here's 5'3" Debbie Harry (5'6" in heels) next to Andre for comparison:
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And of course, Big Show w/ 5'4.5" Kelly Kelly (around 5'8.5" in HUGE heels):
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Just for fun, here's Debbie and Handsome Jimmy Valiant (billed as 6'2")... and the "New York Rangers"... Click Here
Gretz said on 5/Dec/18
Gravis my huge friend,i think I wrote my intentions wrong.I don`t think you ever photo shopped a pic of Andre,I was talking about JT and I apologize to you I had no right to say that(we have been posting here over 12 years,and while we have our differences I don`t think you cheat).In fact betwixt the 3 of us we are usually within an inch or so no matter who we our talking about,so i respect both of you guys opinion.but I still think Andre peaked 6'11.5"-7'0.75 so there LOL,Gravis keep those interesting pics of Andre coming great work!
Sotiris Gravas said on 4/Dec/18
@Gretz I give you my word, I would never Photoshop a pic of Andre or myself. Now, I'm only around 6'7" in the afternoon ... here I am (fairly recent pic, 275 lbs) w/ my mom (around 5'5.5", w/ footwear advantage, 200 lbs)... Click Here


Now, compare that w/ Andre (closer to camera) and a guy who's around 5'6" (JT says maybe 5'5"), Mike Graham: Click Here


Now, how tall do you think I look... and how tall do you think Andre looks...?
Mr. Gadong said on 4/Dec/18
Andre The Giant's Height At Age 30: 7ft 1.25 barefoot, morning time.

Andre The Giant's Height At Age 45 (One Year Before His Death): 6ft 10.25 barefoot, morning time.

Andre's back surgery & growing age made him shorter, Andre was a lot taller in his prime.
Gretz said on 3/Dec/18
Gravis,more great pics from you you have recently have been pacing JT(not you Gravis) for posting the best pics although nothing personal i think you photoshop some of your pics to make Andre to come out at a height that helps you argument)and most people who post here have no idea that you have posted hundreds of pics of Andre around 10 years ago of him being 6'11.And I could actually concede Andre could have been 6'11" to 7'0.75 in his prime,I think in say 1974 andre was 7'0.50" or so out of bed but maybe 6'11"and a fraction by the time he wrestled that night(besides i think JT could kick my ass as he is 6'4",but a guy 6"7" and i read a true giant male is considered 6'6.5" so i don`t want to irritate you to much).i think Andre was at least 7 foot till at least 1978 in that last pic with Backlund.But by ww3 he was still about 6'10.75" 1986?In 1984 in the Wilt pics he still looked about 6.11.5.By the way i read Andre incline benched 475 lbs for 8 reps,using a math formula they estimated he could flat bench 700lbs.anyone think its possible,I know he could dead lift probably a 1000 pounds or even more.Ken Patere once said that if Andre took steroids that he would break the records in the squat and dead lift no problem.
Gretz said on 3/Dec/18
It`s no secret for the past 12 or so years Andre is always 6'10" or 7'0" that is the main argument.As everyone knows I think he peaked at 7'0.5".but I am curious to the people who vwhatever think he didn`t fall in that range,what made you think he was knowing he was the billed 7'4" or I have heard as low as 6'6"(ridiculas in both instances)you do know this skews everone`s height to levels not possible.Hogan at 6'10"-6'1",or a 6 footer at 6'5+ or 5'8".the funny thing is to 90% of the wrestling public will say he is 7'4" or 7'5" just because they where told that.But anyone that posts a 7'2" or 6'9",i will just have to laugh at and say they know nothing about heights.Rob your site seems to be the only truth about actual heights,say they say Sly 6'0"(now with his elevator shoes he may be close to that) but at the pool he seems more like5'7.5 paticularly at his age early 70`s.
JEM said on 28/Nov/18
Andre's peak height looked to be 7'0
Sotiris Gravas said on 28/Nov/18
@JT I used to think that Mean Gene might be 5'9", but am now convinced that his peak was around 5'8".

Here's a recent height-loss pic of Gene (75 years old) w/ 69-year-old Jim Brunzell (billed as 5'10"):
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The reason I think Mike Graham is around 5'6" is b/c he looks around the same height as 5'3" (5'6" in heels) Debbie Harry. If he was really only 5'5", that means other wrestlers like Bruno Sammartino are even shorter than I thought.


Consider the following Bruno pic... Click Here
Compare w/ Graham... Click Here
NCL said on 28/Nov/18
Regarding the Andre and Wilt pic, I think this is the best one. Both are standing straight. I think someone from this site posted the photoshop to give us an idea of Wilt's head: Click Here

Here's another good one with some photoshopped sizes of Wilt's Head (please zoom in):
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IMO, they are NEARLY the same height in their respective footwear in this photo. Maybe Wilt has 1/4" on Andre tops, hard to tell. Andre's eyes, shoulders, etc are lower than Wilt's but Andre's head is absolutely enormous. The lower features gives the allusion Andre's much shorter when in reality he's not because his head is so large.

Now barefoot, that's another story. It really depends on how much height each guys shoes are giving them, and that's still debatable.

Now here's my guess, but again, it's very debatable.

First, here's something that may not be debatable. According to this site, Wilt was measure at 7'1.06" barefoot Click Here

I'm assuming the shoes he's wearing in the picture don't give him much height. This is the best pic I could find: Click Here my guess is .5" tops.

So let's say, Wilt 7'1.56" in his shoes in the photo and Andre at 7'1.25" in his shoes in the photo.

Now it depends on how much height Andre's shoes give him. If it's 3", he was 6'10.25" at the time of the photo. If 2.5", then 6'10.75". If 2", then 6'11.25", etc.
JT said on 28/Nov/18
Halb said on 8/Nov/18

André looks closer to the camera to me from the feet. From looking at the arch, there is a slight tilt to the perspective as well.

The floor is level here unlike the altered tilted pic that Boss keeps posting. Click Here The feet look in similar positions although Andre could be leaning in a bit towards the camera and/or Wilt leaning away from the camera. Despite the probable 2 inch footwear advantage, Andre’s eyes are lower than Wilt’s and Andre’s forehead from the eyes up was probably not any longer than Wilt’s Andre is looking up to Wilt here too Click Here

Sotiris, Kobe’s height is not “100%” confirmed 6’4.75” but he is around that height. 6’4.75” was the height his wife reportedly measured him at but what if she measured him at night? And how exactly did she measure him?

Barkley is a sloucher and is taller than Kobe as well as Michael Jordan. Click Here You can’t have Mean Gene at 5’9” and Barkley at 6’4.75” unless you think Barkley has a 7.75” long head. Click Here Gene was around 5’8” and Barkley, who has a good size noggin, has an easy full head size on him. ~ 6’5” Hulk Hogan needed cowboy boots to have a full head size on Gene.

It was Jim Breaks who looked 5’3” with Dynamite Kid, not Mick McMichael.

Mike Graham was probably around 5’5”. Dan Spivey said he was 5’2” but he wasn’t that short. There used to a match on YouTube of ~ 5’10” Greg Valentine wrestling Graham and it looked like Valentine was wrestling a child.
Canson said on 27/Nov/18
@Boss: so I guess the 6’4 5/8 at the olympics was somehow “altered”? Dan Majerle says here the guy was “maybe 6’5” probably 6’4. Not a flat 6’4 but 6’4 range is what he meant. But Majerle has played with him as have Danny Ainge or Joe Klein etc. who’ve also said that about him. And Rob has said repeatedly that mugshots add if the person is looking down at the camera. You shouldn’t accuse JT of something like that really because your statement about him downplaying his height or about others who perceive his height as 6’4.75 is equally as questionable

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Boss said on 26/Nov/18
JT is a BigShow mark and thinks Paul was 2 or more inches taller than Andre which has been proven wrong here. Andre with a 1" footwear matches up to Wilt better than a peak Shaq who also has a footwear advantage on Wilt. Andre matches up with Arnold better than Shaq too.
Boss said on 26/Nov/18
Anyone on here who uses comparison photos by JT must not realize JT alters all his photos to fit his own arguments which has been proven here many times.
Boss said on 26/Nov/18
Charles Barkley likes to downgrade his own height. Anyone who thinks he was 6'4.75" has no idea what they're talking about when it comes to height. Here is actual proof instead of guessing.
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Pdoggy said on 26/Nov/18
Check Barkley mugshots. He is over 6'7 in the pics
Pdoggy said on 26/Nov/18
Yes all 6'8. Battier, Mike miller

Lebron is at least 6'8. If not more.
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Nov/18
@Gretz The pic you posted of Andre and Dutch Savage didn't show up. Here it is:
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Savage and (always barefoot) Snuka (billed as 5'10")... Click Here

Andre and a barefoot Snuka... Click Here , Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Nov/18
@Pdoggy and JT Look at Barkley next to 100% 6'4.75" Kobe... Click Here ,
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In other words, Barkley is not 6'6", nor was he ever that height.




What I find intriguing is 6'7" Frank Howard next to 5'8" Joey Bishop... Click Here ,
Click Here, in relation to Andre and Joey Bishop... Click Here, which came to my attention when JT posted this great comparison shot... Click Here

It's things like this that made me think Andre was not "that" tall. Let's be honest, Andre does not look that tall there... Maybe Bishop was tiptoeing...
Pdoggy said on 25/Nov/18
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How tall is Sir Charles Barkley again??
Sotiris Gravas said on 24/Nov/18
@Pdoggy. LeBron is 6'6.5" at a low and Battier is around 6'6.25"... so no. LOL.


@JT I have to admit, I remember seeing that for the first time before you posted it here, and I was surprised at how tall Barkley looked. That said, Barkley was closer to the camera. Click Here Based on eyeline, I don't see him as tall as 6'6". One thing's for sure, the camera does add more than 10 lbs to Barkley...

I'd be willing to give Barkley 6'4.75", nothing more. Ppl don't always look as tall as they normally do. Bosh could have been on his feet all day and lost some height...


I remember you saying that Mick McMichael was 5'3" (5 inches shorter than The Dynamite Kid).
That might be the case, but if so, he's tiptoeing a little here... Click Here

For a comparison, here's Andre w/ 5'6" Mike Graham... Click Here (When the smile lines up, it means the other person is 5'6".)

Here's McMichael and Dirty Dan Collins (billed 5'10") back in 1995... Click Here



Just for fun, here's Andre w/ my patented height marker w/ Wahoo McDaniel (both in cowboy boots):
Click Here McDaniel isn't more than 5'9". One thing's for sure, Wahoo was NOT 6'3", LOL:

Click Here Even more laughable than Andre being 7'4".


Guys, feel free to use this gauge which can 100% determine the height of other wrestlers.
Pdoggy said on 24/Nov/18
Furthermore Charles Barkley is at least six foot six maybe a tad more at his peak height

If Ray Allen is roughly 6 foot 5 then Miller and Battier have to be 6 ft 8
Guanzo said on 24/Nov/18
6'8.5" Rashard Lewis with Chris Bosh and LeBron James

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Pdoggy said on 23/Nov/18
Yes all 6'8. Battier, Mike miller

Lebron is at least 6'8. If not more.
Vegas' said on 23/Nov/18
Yes Shaq makes 6'10 Bosh look 'short' in that video.

Re: Piper he was noticeably shorter than Ted Shackelford on the Love Boat. That was filmed in 89 but aired February 90. Rob has Shackelford listed at 185cm so if Piper was 6'1 at any time he lost height before 1989..
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Nov/18
More short guys next to Andre via the specific height marker I've indicated:
Andre and Jim Breaks... maybe 5'4"... Click Here

W/ Tito Montez (cowboy boots)... Click Here

W/ 5'4.5" John Mancer... Click Here


Just a reminder, when someone's mouth lines up like this to Andre here w/ Mike Graham, it means they're 5'6"... Click Here


W/ that in mind, how tall does that make Bruno Sammartino?... Click Here

W/ Bob Backlund (footwear advantage)...? Click Here



Just for fun, here's Mike Graham and Barry Windham... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Nov/18
@Pdoggy Here's Shane Battier w/ Mike Miller... Click Here

Here w/ Miller and Ray Allen (who's around the same height as 6'4.75" Kobe Bryant:
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Kobe and Allen... Click Here



Dude, NBA-listed heights are almost always in shoes and often rounded up. Shane Battier was never 6'8" barefoot.

Then again, Ray Allen is actually listed as 6'5", around his actual height, which is weird.



Now, compare Mike Miller to 6'6.5" LeBron James (6'7.25" is a morning height):
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Here's Battier next to 6'10.25" Chis Bosh... Click Here Does that look like a 6'8" guy to you.

This is a recent pic of 6'8" Alonzo Mourning and Battier. One guy is 6'8" and the other clearly isn't:
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I'd give Battier 6'6.25", nothing more.



Do you still think Battier is 6'8"...? It's funny how all three men, Battier, LeBron and Mike Miller are listed as 6'8".
184guy2 said on 22/Nov/18
@Danimal
Piper suffered a bike accident on early 1991 . He did it hurt his legs , I don't know if he lost height by that occasion ,probably not . His hips surgery was in late 96 before his match against Hogan on Starrcade . In early 2000 he also had other surgery ( one was from biceps ) . He definetely looked shorter when he met Vince Russo on TNA in 2002 . Russo was like 6'2 and had Piper by a few inches . When Piper returned in 2003 to WWE , he looked like 4 cms shorter than McMahon . 7 years earlier Piper was as tall ( there is a chance that Mcmahon started to use lifts troughout Attitude Era with his character because he looked at times 6'2 being in his mid 50's ). In 2005 he looked shorter than a 40 yro Shawn Michaels. In 2006 he had the remotion of the tumor if I'm not wrong . In 2009 for example , he looked shorter than Ricky Steamboat ( in early 80's Piper had him by 3 inches ) . In his later years he looked 4''+ shorter than Dean Ambrose and only a good inch taller than Daniel Bryan . I believe he went from a legit 6'1 ( until 1996) to an almost 5'9 guy in by the time of his death .
JT said on 22/Nov/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 12/Nov/18
@Pdoggy Shaq and LeBron... Click Here

LeBron and 6'10.25" Chris Bosh... Click Here

Just compare their heights when they are standing by each other
Click Here Shaq is several inches taller than Bosh and Barkley looking around 6’6” with Bosh b/c he was.
Halb said on 21/Nov/18
Roddy's height difference there with Duggan in the two pics is fairly surprising
RP said on 21/Nov/18
184guy2,
I stand corrected...
After watching Piper’s debut in WCW @ Halloween Havoc in October 1996...Piper did still look a solid 6’0” there with Hogan & Paul Wight. However, I stand by that he only looked 5’10”-ish in the very esrly 2000’s! Say, like around 2001-2002....he simply only looks 5’10” to me in the things I pulled up & watched from 2000-2002.
2000 @ 5’10-1/2”
2002 @ 5’10”
2005: 5’9.5”
As Danimal pointed out, his spinal cancer tumor removal surgery cost him a lot of height in that time range. I think he even had some of his large intestines removed, if I’m not mistaken?
My final opinion on Piper:
Peak: 6’0.75”
1990: 6’0.5”
1995: 6’0”
2000: 5’10.5”
2005: 5’9.5”
RP said on 21/Nov/18
Sotiris, yeah... I have him in the 6’0-3/4” to 6’0-1//2” range at his peak... right @ 6’2” in his wrestling boots. His height loss was frightening !!!!
Pdoggy said on 21/Nov/18
Some people actually lose height for various reasons some through surgery some through age.
When did Shane Battier lose 2 inches in height?? 6'8 is his height not 6'6.

Does everyone's height have to be downgraded by 2 inches, just on the off chance there may be a picture trail back to Andre that actually proves to the downgraders that he was just over 7'.

Some do exaggerate height but not everyone. Truly large people do have custom shoes made or wear cushioned insoles because of the pounding there joints take.

Yes Andre's boots gave him a boost in height, not debating that point.

When you spend your life being 7' tall and weighing over 350+ pounds like Shaq or Andre you need support. Their feet take a beating.
Sotiris Gravas said on 20/Nov/18
Here's Andre and 5'6" Mike Graham (billed 5'8")... Click Here

Andre and 5'6" Louie Tillet (billed 5'9")... Click Here

Andre and 5'5" Rick McGraw ( billed 5'7", footwear advantage)... Click Here


Andre and Mike Pappas (fellow Greek) who was very short, maybe 5'4" (billed 5'7"): Click Here

Notice how that height marker on Pappas changes here... one of Andre's feet is off the ground and Pappas is much shorter here (ground could be uneven)... Click Here ,
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Louie Tillet was billed as 5'9" but was around 5'6". Here he is next to 5'7" peak height Maurice Vachon, looking around 5'5", later in life... Click Here


Here's a little pic of 5'5" McGraw and 5'11" Paul Orndorff (1984)... Click Here



@RP It's funny how much shorter Piper looks here w/ Andre, as compared to the other pics I posted:
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I find that pic very odd.
Gretz said on 20/Nov/18
hope I did this right,Dutch Savage always listed as 6'4"(but in all honestley probably 6'2".Just wanted to show how Andre can dwarf a big sized man even though his giant head is leaning over Click Here is unknown to many guys today but in his day considered a big man.
Sotiris Gravas said on 19/Nov/18
@RP Not sure, maybe Piper was 6'0.5" peak. I could be wrong.

Dramatic height loss for him, next to a now 6'1" Duggan... Click Here ,
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184guy2 said on 19/Nov/18
@RP
Pretty bad estimation about Piper :
He wasn't a weak 5'11 until 2004-2005
Fun fact , Piper looked as tall as Vince Mcmahon (listed 6'1.5 peak) in 1996
Do you really think that Piper looks 3inches shorter ?
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Danimal 5'9 3/4" said on 19/Nov/18
RP said on 18/Nov/18
Sotiris, what do you have a peak (1978-1990) Roddy Pipper at?
I have him @ 6’0-3/4”...by 1995 he looked a weak 5’11”....2000 he looked 5’10”-ish....

And when he died he was down to around 5'8" at best. He has huge amounts of his spine removed due to a cancerous tumor. His first height loss was in the WCW when he had a double hip replacement. He went from being at least 6'1" (he had 2-3" on Bruno Sammartino and Paul Orndorff in the mid-80's and was around the same height as Vince McMahon (pre Vince's height loss) until the early 1990's). He had his hip replacement in the mid 1990's and instantly looked shorter, but it wasn't drastic, still looking close to 6'0, but it wasn't until the early 2000's (after the WCW was bought over) that he had part of his spine removed, where you could literally see his stomach protruding under his shirt (as though he had a beer belly), because his upper torso was inches shorter than it had previously been, due to several discs in his spine being removed, where the tumor was. At that time, he claimed that he used to stand 6'1.5" (billed 6'2") and was down to 5'9". He progressively lost even more height throughout the last years of his life, standing around the same height as Mean Gene at the end, a man he used to DWARF in the WWF and even in the WCW. I can provide pics if you don't believe me.
Gretz said on 18/Nov/18
RP i am going to say I agree even before I read it from you that Piper was 6'0.75" at his peak.Even Keith David is listed as 6'1" they co-star in a movie called they live that came out in 1988 so that would be his peak height and they are just about the same height(i don`t see why they would exaggerate an actors height and i`m sure they where measured by a tailor).And the in ring pic with Andre and Piper he`s got piper by 12 inches easy this pic seems to me circa 1978,and I am not trying to say Andre is 7'1" here but man he looks very tall here so 7'0.25" is not out of the question.That`s why i`m trying to say you can`t just use 1 pic there are two many variables.
the two pics with Piper and Hogan,he looks 4 inches in one and 5 inches in the other taller than Piper.And as I said before I think Andre was a 7 footer from around 1969 to 1978,1978 being the last known pic with Backlund close to a cinder block wall they both seem to be their true heights 6'1" and 7'0" respectively.The funny thing is I used to work at a high rise in center city Philadelphia and worked in building maintenance for 14 years,and I measured many cinder block walls in the fire towers and none of them came up to the same height as I thought they would.However in this case it seems to ring true all i can say is by 1990-91 the pic with Bam bam he seems to be about 6'9.5" his body had deteriorated significantly by this point although he was 555lbs. by the time of his death,he must have been in agony for a long time and the alcohol numbed it to some degree.
RP said on 18/Nov/18
Sotiris, what do you have a peak (1978-1990) Roddy Pipper at?
I have him @ 6’0-3/4”...by 1995 he looked a weak 5’11”....2000 he looked 5’10”-ish....
Gretz said on 17/Nov/18
Gravis you certainly didn`t have to remind me that Al was certainly barefoot in that pic with Andre(no way he dwarfs a 6'0" man by that much,and thanks for all the pics with the old bruins a dynasty in their own right)if not for the Habs they would have 4 cups instead of two.And in 1973-74 when my flyers beat the bruins for the cup(thanks mostly to Parent)Sims had an incredible +63 at the age of 20 mostly because he was often paired with the best d-man of all time Bobby Orr,when Orr was paired with Dallas Smith Orr was a +124 a record yet to be beat Smith riding on his coat tails was +94.the pics with the Bruins are all great,but I hesitate to put an accurate height on Andre in them lets just say I.M.O he could well be 7 foot there.Add them with the cake pics from around that time and I would say Andre at his peak was 6'11.5-7'0.5"It`s a shame we can`t see Andre`s foot ware in the pic with Sims as it looks to be about 11:20 a.m so he was probably near the tallest he would get throughout the day.
Gretz said on 17/Nov/18
In the 12-13 years i have been posting here(Rob what was Andre`s top listing when you first started this page?I recall the first time visiting he was way up at 7'1.5",then got short as 6'11".Then it was 6'11.5" maybe back in 2008 we had a vote to add an extra half inch to make him 7'0" the overwhelming consensus is that Andre was 7'0" at his peak.
Now i would like to talk about their first meeting in Hamburg Pa.,(even though they wrestled in the south back in 1978 when Hogan was known as Sterling Golden and they arm wrestled to set up a feud)Back then and in 1980 andre looked a good 6 inches taller than hogan.Even back stage after hogan won the belt Andre is pouring champagne on his head and with the level camera angle Andre still looks 6 inches taller than Hogan.Andre also had that small foot ware advantage although by 1984 i think Andre was no taller than 6'11.5".Even by ww3 these college students made a post that by using pixles they estimated andre to be 5 inches at least taller than Hogan,and by then i think andre was 6'10.75" even back stage someone came up with that measurment but don`t know how he did it.
Sotiris Gravas said on 14/Nov/18
Andre and Piper... Click Here

Andre and Uncle Elmer (1985)... Click Here

Andre and Hogan... Click Here



Piper and Hogan for comparison... Click Here , Click Here
Piper w/ Studd (nice JT pic)... Click Here
P w/ Warrior/DDP... Click Here
P w/ Steamboat, nice BIG pic... Click Here
Steamboat and 5'11" Flair, nice BIG pic... Click Here , and here: Click Here

Piper and Bill Anderson... Click Here



@Gretz Andre and a barefoot Al Sims (6'0")... Click Here

And just for fun, one of Bret Hart having fun... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 12/Nov/18
@Pdoggy Shaq and LeBron... Click Here

LeBron and 6'10.25" Chris Bosh... Click Here
Gretz said on 12/Nov/18
There is not a vid or pic where Andre looks his billed 7'4",i thought we all knew this.And Stan does look tall in that last pic with Andre.But,he is standing tall as he can though Andre is not slouching,you can`t quite see how much of a boost his foot ware is giving him.While Andre has his low to no soul wrestling boots on,Stan is in the fore ground but is so heavy you can barley tell.Add it all up and Andre is 7'0" in that pic.I would love to see a pic of Ernie Ladd and Stan.
Pdoggy said on 12/Nov/18
Click Here

This is the kind of pic that needs to be posted. Back to back.

Now tell me again how is Shaq is not over 7ft compare him to Wilt and Andre there you have it.

If you want to say LeBron is 6 ft 7 6 foot 8 makes no difference Shaq is definitely over 7ft in this picture no doubt about it there is at least six or 7in between the two of them
tree said on 12/Nov/18
michael loughrie said on 11/Nov/18
Andre was 7' 4" at peak, he had some really bad back problems which lower him to 7' 0".

Can u back it up with evidence?Of course not.
michael loughrie said on 11/Nov/18
Andre was 7' 4" at peak, he had some really bad back problems which lower him to 7' 0".
Pdoggy said on 11/Nov/18
Barry and maybe 6'11" Bill Walton (and Dave Cowens)... Click Here

Or 7', 6'9 & 6'7.



Let's downgrade EVERYONE just to bring Andre down 2 inches.
RP said on 11/Nov/18
Thanks, Knoici !
Knoici said on 11/Nov/18
RP said on 10/Nov/18
Also, anyone know who the big dude in the flannel shirt & cowboy boots to the far right of Studd is ?

Probably,His name was Mike Dogendorf billed 195cm.
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Nov/18
@RP Yeah, I liked seeing DiBiase there; pretty cool pic that JT tracked down. DiBiase could easily pass for 6'2.5" (but I've always seen him as 6'2", given that he was billed as 6'3"). Also, we don't know what footwear Studd had on... but he does look more 6'6" in that pic.

We've all seen the pic of Studd w/ Rick Barry (listed 6'7", but that was a shoe measurement, or rounded up)... Click Here


Now, compare that w/ these nice JT pics of Barry w/ 6'4" DDP... Click Here ,
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I now see that height-loss Rick Barry is now around 6'4" next to 6'4.5" Charles Barkley (2015):
Click Here

Both Rick Barry and Dr. J were listed as 6'7" and are now the same height... Click Here

Barry and 6'11.5" Shaq (2016)... Click Here

6'4" Rick Barry w/ 6'8" Alonzo Mourning and 6'11.5" Shaq... Click Here
Alonzo and 6'7" Magic (2011)... Click Here


Final thought: I recall someone saying that Shaq used to wear insoles for support, I wonder if that still holds true... Shaq looks a lot shorter in the pic w/ just Rick Barry than the group photo w/ Alonzo. Hmmm...
Barry and maybe 6'11" Bill Walton (and Dave Cowens)... Click Here

And finally, Barry and another big dude, maybe 7'0.5" Ralph Sampson... Click Here
62B said on 10/Nov/18
RP said on 10/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Stan Frazier was indeed a legit 6’8”..good Call.
Big John Studd & One Man Gang? Well, More 6’6” than than 6’5”...I used to have Studd @ 6’6-1/2” & OMG @ 6’6”. In that pic you posted (great pic BTW) they are with a young & peak 6’2-1/2” Ted Debiase. They both look a Strong 6’6” there with Ted. They both could actually appear 6’6-1/2” in the photo with young/peak 6’2-1/2” Debiase..IMO. Also, anyone know who the big dude in the flannel shirt & cowboy boots to the far right of Studd is ?
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Ted is one of those guys I will always argue a solid strong 6'3" peak. I stood right next to him in a room full of mirrors. He was my height easy. Definitely taller than a peak Luger in person.
RP said on 10/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Stan Frazier was indeed a legit 6’8”..good Call.
Big John Studd & One Man Gang? Well, More 6’6” than than 6’5”...I used to have Studd @ 6’6-1/2” & OMG @ 6’6”. In that pic you posted (great pic BTW) they are with a young & peak 6’2-1/2” Ted Debiase. They both look a Strong 6’6” there with Ted. They both could actually appear 6’6-1/2” in the photo with young/peak 6’2-1/2” Debiase..IMO. Also, anyone know who the big dude in the flannel shirt & cowboy boots to the far right of Studd is ?
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Nov/18
Andre and 6'5" One Man Gang (billed 6'9")... Click Here
Andre and One Man Gang as Akeem... Click Here

6'5" One Man Gang and 6'5" Studd... Click Here
And here, way in the back, a nice JT pic... Click Here



@Xavier Nice pic of Uncle Elmer and Andre. Love it! Though, Frazier is definitely shorter (billed as 6'10", more like maybe 6'8").

Frazier and 5'10" Jimmy Hart... Click Here
Andre (bad posture) and Jimmy Hart in 1991... Click Here

Uncle Elmer and 5'10" Chief Jay Strongbow... Click Here
Elmer w/ 5'10.5" Jerry Lawler... Click Here
Halb said on 9/Nov/18
Looking at André square up to Big John Studd at WMv and in previous years, there doesn't seem to be any. I wouldn't be surprised to know there was some in the final years when he struggled to walk
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Nov/18
I can't buy a full 7 feet peak myself. Not barefoot at least. The full photos JT posted of Andre with Arnold and Piper where footwear is seen are surprising. The scale seems to show Arnold between the 6'2" and 6'3" marks in shoes with Andre "only" 6'10", which doesn't seem off in that pic since Arnold reaches Andre's nose or a little higher. Similarly, Piper looks 9" shorter at the absolute most and really a bit over 8" since he's clearly above Andre's mouth and a bit below his nose. I buy the 6'1" and 6'1.5" peak listings for Piper and Arnold, respectively. Some of the height difference is valid, but I think you can still get an idea of what a 7 footer looks like. Look at the photo JT posted of presumably 6'2" Brock Lesnar with cowboy boots and a big hat with the very top of his hat struggling to reach Shaq's mouth! And Hulk Hogan wasn't so far we couldn't compare and Andre was what? Maybe 5" taller? Same thing with 6'5" Chuck Wepner a decade earlier. 6'11"-6'11.5" range peak wouldn't be that surprising, but can anyone tell me if there's definitive evidence he lost a noticeable amount of height by the mid to late 80's?
Halb said on 8/Nov/18
André looks closer to the camera to me from the feet. From looking at the arch, there is a slight tilt to the perspective as well.
Pdoggy said on 8/Nov/18
I also never noticed that there are two faces in the background behind wilt who were they part of the crew stage crew?
Pdoggy said on 8/Nov/18
A couple of things about the original pics of Wilt Arnold and Andre is that Andre actually looks the same height if not a little bit taller and the camera is closer to Wilt you can tell by where they're looking Andres kind of looking across on an angle and Wilt is looking straight across so the camera angle favors Wilt.
184guy2 said on 7/Nov/18
@Boss
Thank you for posting a pic that have been posted millions of times
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Nov/18
Sorry, guys... I kinda mixed up some pics of Dino Bravo, Bruno Sammartino, and Gino Brito. I meant to post this... Click Here

This guy is actually Franz Van Buyten (billed as 6'1") from 1968... Click Here


Just for the hell of it, here's Andre w/ another guy billed as 6'1", Terry Funk:
Click Here

Funk and Sting height comparison... Click Here



Here's Andre w/ another cowboy, Frankie Lane (billed as 6'0")... Click Here





Here's Matt Morgan next to Cowboy Bob Orton (billed as 6'1")... Click Here

Morgan and Piper... Click Here

Morgan and Mike Miller (the politician, not the basketball player)... Click Here
Miller and 5'9" Marco Rubio for comparison... Click Here


So... how tall is a barefoot Matt Morgan...? One thing's for certain, there's NO way in hell that he's 6'8.5".
Xavier said on 7/Nov/18
Peak Andre the Giant and Stan Frazier look a similar height
Click Here
Boss said on 6/Nov/18
Andre, Arnold and Wilt from Arnold Schwarzenegger's twitter page.

Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Nov/18
Andre and Larry Zbyszko (billed as 5'11")... Click Here

Hogan and Zbyszko... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Nov/18
This is the kind of pic that made me think Andre wasn't "so" tall: here he is w/ 5'11" Click Here Dino Bravo:
Click Here (FYI, a 5'11" dude comes up to my lips, and I'm only 6'7").

Another... Click Here



Bravo and 6'4.5" Hogan... Click Here

Bravo and 6'3" Rick Rude... Click Here

Bravo and 5'9" Bruno Sammartino... Click Here Gino Brito looks shorter here:
Click Here , Click Here

I now see that Carpentier was more like 5'8", not 5'9"... Click Here

Andre and 5'8" Carpentier... Click Here


Andre and 5'9" Gino Brito... Click Here
Andre, Gino and Paul LeDuc... Click Here

Bravo and Brito... Click Here
Bravo and LeDuc... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Nov/18
Sorry, guys. I forgot to post that Steve Keirn/Jimm Garvin pic showing both men are around the same height: 5'10"... Click Here

Mike Graham was 5'6" in the pic w/ Andre, same as 5'3" Debbie Harry (5'6" in heels):
Click Here


@Pdoggy Here's Ladd (closer to camera) next to 6'2.5" Billy Graham... Click Here

A bigger pic of Billy and the 5'7" Grand Wizard... Click Here



Just for the hell of it... here's Andre w/ 6'1.5" Bigelow... Click Here
RoelC said on 4/Nov/18
Editor Rob said on 2/Nov/18
The 7ft 1 (and a bit) measurement is certainly an interesting tidbit, because why would this be made up or a lie...it seems to fit in with a rough 'in shoe' measurement.
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Editor Rob, why is the 7ft1 (and a bit) measurement more interesting than the 6’9 ¾” measurement claimed by Meltzer?

Neither measurement is backed up by the slightest bit of proof. Boss can keep claiming it’s the most detailed account of a measurement, but the fact is that Jody Hamilton hardly gave any details.

He basically just said that Andre was measured by some guy at a tv-show and he was measured over 7ft1. Oh and the guy gave a favourable review in the newspaper the next day.

Wow some details there! He doesn’t give the name of the tv-host, the name of the tv-show that Andre was supposedly measured at and also doesn’t mention the name of the newspaper the review was posted in. Every info one needs to track down proof of that measurement has been (purposely?) left out by Jody Hamilton. And I’ve tried to find some supporting evidence to Hamilton’s claim. But the more evidence you find, the more unlikely his story sounds.

When exactly did the measurement took place? On Kayfabememories he claimed the measurement took place in 1968, but in his book he mentioned that Rod Fenton send Andre on a publicity tour. Fenton sold NWA All-Star Wrestling in late 1967 and wasn’t an active promoter anymore in Vancouver from 1968 onwards. The active promotes in 1968 were Sander Kovac & Gene Kiniski.

He also claimed their tv-show was aired all over Canada, but again that didn’t happen until Fenton left. TV-syndication for NWA All-Star Wrestling happened somewhere in 1968.

Here’s were Jody Hamilton’s claim doesn’t fit: are we supposed to believe that Andre was measured at 7’1+, yet was still being billed below 7ft until he went to Japan in 1970. Sorry but the idea of a 7ft1 giant being listed inches below his actual height is kinda hard to swallow.

We have a video of Andre in 1968 (the same year Andre was supposedly measured) where they claimed he was 2m11 (6’11”). That’s 2 inches less than what he was supposedly measured at. Even in shoes he wouldn’t have measured 7’1” if he was only 6’11” at the time. And that measurement wasn't a morning measurement as it took place prior to a tv-taping of their wrestling show.

Secondly there’s absolutely zero proof that Andre appeared in Canada in the 60’s. If Hamilton’s claim is true than the biography’s on Andre need to be rewritten as every biography claims his first appearance in Canada was in 1971. And it was in the Montreal territory, not the Vancouver territory. As far as I know, no one besides Jody Hamilton ever claimed Andre appeared in Canada prior to 1971. A bit odd that such an important piece of wrestling history (Andre appearing in North America for the first time) seems to have been completely forgotten by anyone except Jody Hamilton. Even more odd is that Frank Valois & Edouard Carpentier are being credited with bringing Andre over to North America, when according to Jody Hamilton he already appeared in the territory three years prior to that.

Say what you want about Meltzer’s claim, at least his claim matches up with Andre’s career timeline (even though some here have claimed it doesn't), as Andre was wrestling in France when he was 24 years old. Plus a 6ft10 wrestler being billed at 7ft+ is much more believable in the world of pro-wrestling than a 7ft1 wrestler being billed at 6ft10.
Pdoggy said on 4/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Why not this pic with Heenan, Ladd and Raschke. Much better for height estimate. Quality not quantity pics.

Click Here
Pdoggy said on 4/Nov/18
@Sotiris
Thanks I have seen pics of them before. You certainly post plenty of pics.
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Nov/18
The debate on Ernie Ladd's true height rages on. Here he is w/ billed 5'7" Ernie Roth (aka The Grand Wizard)... Click Here Trust me, a legit 6'9" guy would look WAY taller, I assure you.

More pics of both men... Click Here , Click Here


Ladd and Baron Von Raschke (billed 6'3")... Click Here



Wizard and Billy Graham (billed 6'4", was maybe 6'2.5")... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here
Graham (closer to camera) and 6'1" Vince back in 1977... Click Here



Wizard and another BIG man, 6'5" Blackjack Mulligan (billed 6'9")... Click Here



Wizard and Stan Stasiak (billed 6'4")... Click Here
Stasiak w/ 6'5" Don Leo Jonathan (billed 6'6)... Click Here
Stasiak and 6'1" Vince... Click Here




And finally, compare Wizard and Killer Kowalski (billed 6'7", was maybe a weak 6'6") to that of Ernie Ladd and Wizard... Click Here

Kowalski and a young 6'2" Triple H... Click Here , Click Here
Is it possible that Kowalski was as low as 6'5"...?
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Nov/18
If Steve Keirn (billed 6'0") was really around 5'10" as seen here compared to billed 5'10" Jimmy Garvin, then Mike Graham is shorter than his billed 5'8", and consequently, so is Andre... Click Here


Here's Graham next to 6'4" Barry Windham (bad posture) for comparison... Click Here



Here's billed 5'10" Jimmy Garvin and 6'5" Big John Studd (closer to camera): Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Nov/18
@Pdoggy Here's around 5'11.5" Joe Theismann when he's not being held up like a trophy by Andre:
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Nov/18
Sorry guys. This isn't Andre w/ a young Jim Neidhart, like I previously posted here. It's actually around 5'9" Eddie Gilbert (billed 5'10")... Click Here

Here's Gilbert and Andre seated (a pic I've never seen before)... Click Here

Gilbert and 6'2" Sting for comparison... Click Here , Click Here

Gilbert and Curt Hennig (a weak 6'2")... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here



I think this Curt Hennig here on the left w/ Andre at the back.... Click Here


Gilbert and around 5'9" Paul Heyman... Click Here
62B said on 2/Nov/18
JT I thought Terri Todd was around 6'2". That's not exactly short. Also Todd has been up close to a whole lot of tall athletes including Paul Wight and Wilt. Why would he not be a decent judge of Andres height? I would think he would be at least as good as Chet Coppock.
Pdoggy said on 2/Nov/18
@JT Thanks... but:

Editor Rob help me out.

@JT What is it going to take for you to realize that Andre's peak height was just over 7'. Terry Todd was no slouch and around people of size all the time. He is most certainly qualified to gauge height. So many examples of Andre pictured with people in the 6'10 range and he has them all beat. Doorway pics.Not to mention the "ORIGINAL WILT PICS" that have not been tilted. Under 7' is simply impossible. Lastly Andre was measured on Canadian TV which has also probably been squashed by Vince also because he was only 7'1. I agree he was embellished by boots and Afro but that was for 7'4" and up Kayfabe.

Like everyone you are most certainly entitled to your opinion. But something seems to sway you away from the truth with Andre. Not sure what it is.
Editor Rob
The 7ft 1 (and a bit) measurement is certainly an interesting tidbit, because why would this be made up or a lie...it seems to fit in with a rough 'in shoe' measurement.
JT said on 2/Nov/18
Pdoggy said on 31/Oct/18
….Why didn't you post the interview when it was still available??

It’s on this site now Click Here As I said earlier, there was too much of a height difference with Andre for Todd to pinpoint Andre’s height and that’s not even factoring in the Afro effect and any enhanced footwear that would have made it even more difficult.
RoelC said on 1/Nov/18
JT said on 30/Oct/18
YouTube had a recent interview with Terry Todd that’s since been pulled where Todd said Andre was 7 feet.

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Are you referring to this interview

Click Here

At 1:31 the interviewer asks him how tall Andre was and Todd's response was 'right at 7ft'.

I highly doubt Terry Todd knew Andre's legit height. He probably just guessed his height as almost everybody did.
Andre's legit height is wrestling's best kept secret and probably a secret that we'll never find a real answer to. Even today wrestler's will not break kayfabe and tell reporters how tall Andre legitimately was. Probably because the majority of wrestlers don't know Andre's legit height either.
berta said on 1/Nov/18
i believe andre was 7 foot legit out of bed and closer to 6 foot 11 in the evening
Boss said on 1/Nov/18
Boss said on 30/Oct/18
Maybe this was an early morning measurement but it's the most detailed account of Andre ever actually being measured.

Click Here

Editor Rob

In shoes I can believe that, but barefoot I am not 


More than likely Andre was in dress shoes or his ring gear for this measurement because it was well before his wearing cowboy boots days.
Canson said on 31/Oct/18
@184guy: you definitely have a little bit of both on this site I do agree.

@RP: being far away in height can make it tricky. I do agree. To be honest, I’ve never been able to pin down Andre’s height. As a wrestler, it makes it even tougher due to the extent of the inflation
Pdoggy said on 31/Oct/18
@JT
YouTube had a recent interview with Terry Todd that’s since been pulled where Todd said Andre was 7 feet.

Why didn't you post the interview when it was still available??
Boss said on 31/Oct/18
Billy Batts said on 29/Oct/18
Andre 6'9" peak height. His boots and afro added a few more inches. It was his sheer mass and bulk which made him standout. Back in the 60s and 70s there weren't many huge guys in wrestling. Guys 6'4" and over were few and far between so Andre was truly one of a kind in that era. In today's era with guys like Big Show, Kane, Khali, Strowman, etc he would just be another big guy.

Andre was and always will be The Giant. His massive overall size and features would always make him stand out no matter who he was next to or what era he was in. Wilt Chamberlin who is a giant in his own right looks like a toothpick beside Andre. His head was one of the largest heads in human history. Andre is what people picture in there heads when they hear the word giant.
Boss said on 30/Oct/18
Maybe this was an early morning measurement but it's the most detailed account of Andre ever actually being measured.

Click Here
Editor Rob
In shoes I can believe that, but barefoot I am not so sure.
RP said on 30/Oct/18
I agree with Canson...Sotiris makes a lot of good points & brings some great evidence to the table. And as a 5’11” man
When I walk by a 6’4.5” to 6’5” man, I can be like “wow, he’s a big dude, must be 6’5” or 6’6” ?? While Sotiris as a 6’7” man can walk by a 6’4” to 6’5” man and get a more accurate & precise eyeball measurement of them & be able to say, “nah, he’s more like 6’4.5” rather than 6’5” & change to 6’6”.
JT said on 30/Oct/18
Click Here Piper’s on a platform with Kareem if it’s not obvious.

A pic of Andre in the Bigfoot costume I have not seen before. Click Here Would be interesting to know if Ted Cassidy wore that same costume when he played the character in a subsequent Six Million Dollar Man and if so whether the suit had to be altered. Cassidy was listed as 6’9” in college but looked 6’7”ish in Beverly Hillbillies and I Dream of Jeanie.

YouTube had a recent interview with Terry Todd that’s since been pulled where Todd said Andre was 7 feet. Andre’s at least 7-8 inches taller than Todd though. With that large a height gap, Todd’s estimate is basically reduced to a guess unless he’s got photos standing side by side with Andre and Andre’s not in cowboy boots. Chet Coppock and Chuck Wepner are 3-4 inches taller than Todd and would be in a better position to estimate Andre’s height than Todd, although there would still be some speculation on their part too.
Billy Batts said on 29/Oct/18
Andre 6'9" peak height. His boots and afro added a few more inches. It was his sheer mass and bulk which made him standout. Back in the 60s and 70s there weren't many huge guys in wrestling. Guys 6'4" and over were few and far between so Andre was truly one of a kind in that era. In today's era with guys like Big Show, Kane, Khali, Strowman, etc he would just be another big guy.
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Oct/18
I guess I shoulda posted these two pics as well. Here's Andre next to Eric the Red (billed as 6'1) w/ Takahashi up front... Click Here

Here's 5'5" Takahashi next to Haystacks Calhoun in sandals (billed as 6'4"): Click Here

One more, just for the hell of it of Takahashi w/ Bad News Brown, Tito Santana, and Dusty Rhodes:
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Oct/18
Here's a nice pic I've never seen before of Andre w/ a young Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart sans facial hair:
Click Here

Here's a photo of Andre and Don Leo Jonathan (maybe 6'5") from 1972 that I've previously posted, only bigger... Click Here And another for the 1st time... Click Here

Andre (closer to camera, w/ what looks to be cowboy boots) and Rene Lasartesse (said to be 6'6"): Click Here




@Rob When will we see a section devoted to Ernie Ladd...?

Here's Ladd w/ Jack and Jerry Brisco, billed 6'0" and 6'2" respectively... Click Here

Here's Ladd as compared to 5'5" Takahashi... Click Here



Takahashi w/ Andre... Click Here

Takahashi w/ Hogan (and Stan Hansen)... Click Here , and here:
Click Here


W/ Iron Sheik... Click Here

W/ Nikolai Volkoff... Click Here
184guy2 said on 29/Oct/18
@Canson

Sotiris starts the arguments from assumptions , saying that someone is 1'' shorter than the reality to make other person shorter in comparsion . This isn't a fair game . Of course we still have a lot of upgraders here .
Canson said on 29/Oct/18
@184guy: I don’t think Sotiris is deliberately shaving an inch off of all the celebs. That’s prob just how he perceives their heights. You see people like Johnson also making comments such as “I assess them at morning heights” and he inflates everyone that he comments on
Pdoggy said on 28/Oct/18
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Pdoggy said on 27/Oct/18
Thank you Boss.
As for Andre’s height, he was a good 7′ early in his career, and maybe a bit more, but age, a terrible back, and gravity brought him “down” a peg or two.

I remembered that in this email Terry Toddy did not Kayfabe. The SI article he said 7'4".

So there you have it.... again.
Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Oct/18
How tall was Tex McKenzie (billed as 6'9")? Here he is w/ Andre... Click Here

Here he is next to the ropes to gauge height... Click Here
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Here's Tex w/ Haystacks Calhoun (billed as 6'4") and Mario Milano (billed as 6'5"):
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Mario Milano next to ropes... Click Here
Milano w/ Red Bastein (billed as 6'2")... Click Here



Here's 5'9" Mil Mascaras (billed 5'11") w/ Giant Baba (and Dory Funk Jr.)... Click Here
As compared to Mascaras and Andre... Click Here

Andre w/ 5'9" Pedro Morales... Click Here

Gorilla Monsoon w/ Pedro... not looking very tall... Click Here

Gorilla does look tall in this group shot, though... Click Here

Pedro Morales w/ Mil Mascaras and 5'11" Victor Rivera (billed 6'1")... Click Here
Morales and Rivera... Click Here
Pdoggy said on 26/Oct/18
Just too many pics where Andre is standing in front of a doorway in a doorway that is definitely a traditional doorway and Andres head the top of Andres head is above the 2 in trim that is around the six-foot-nine doorway.
Again normal doors in the U.S. are 80 to 81 inches. The doorway must be taller to accommodate the door. Andre's head is above the trim. So there goes any chance of a peak Andre under 7'.

The pic from Andre's house in France was certainly not a traditional doorway however so many others were.
62B said on 25/Oct/18
@ Sotiris. The Andre by the door pictures are interesting. Not optimal because Andre isn't standing with the best posture or square with the door in any of the pictures. That being said, the last picture it looks like Andre could be 7'1" in his boots and to me is the best of the three. The first picture looks to have the most severe angle and the second picture Andre is dropping his shoulder a pretty good amount. 7'1" in boots probably means a little under 7' barefoot. Again its a picture with lots of variables that would have to be taken into consideration. Just look at the locker room pictures JT posted a few days ago. They are a pretty good example of how a few inches and different angles can add or subtract a few inches.
184guy2 said on 25/Oct/18
@Sotiris Gravas
Please , stop shaving everyone 1 inch

Mike Rotumda AKA IRS wasn't 6'1 , he was at least 6'2
Look him with strong 6'3er peak Ted Dibiase:
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Now before you try to downgrade Ted Dibiase , ask to @62B how tall he looked in person ...

Him with Barry Windham , Hillbilly Jim and Hogan
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No 6'1 man would look that tall beside 6'5 range guys
Boss said on 25/Oct/18
Chett Coppock was same height as Hulk Hogan and Andre was a half foot taller than Hogan. Hogan stood next to Andre all the time but Chett Coppock who was Hogan's height was told not too. Doesn't make any sense.
Pdoggy said on 25/Oct/18
Andre sure looks 7' easy with Jay Strongbow. Andre is not standing straight Jay is and Andre looks great there.
Boss said on 25/Oct/18
terry todd, July 12, 2010:

JT,

I just became aware of your post and thought I’d respond. I agree that the Big Show of ten years ago would be very close to Mark in shoulder breadth. I saw him many times during that period and he was truly broad–and also very strong in his shoulders even though he didn’t push it in the gym even then. Regarding his hand size relative to Andre’s, having been around both quite often I have to disagree as I believe Andre’s hands were significantly wider than Big Show’s–just as
Andre’s feet were much larger in both length and width than Show’s.

I agree with your general points about Howard, although he’s so much wider than almost all of the other NBA big men that his measurement would be interesting to see–although not up in the Henry, Williams, and Show category. As for Andre’s height, he was a good 7′ early in his career, and maybe a bit more, but age, a terrible back, and gravity brought him “down” a peg or two. I saw him on several occasions when he weighed over 500 pounds, but I also saw him in Georgia shortly after he cam down from Canada and I suspect he was within 15 pounds of 400, one way or the other. This was about 40 years ago; I went backstage to meet him, interview him, and take a few photos with him. I still recall how “inhuman” he looked and how amazingly agile he was. For example, at one point in the match he ran across the ring, jumped over the top rope, caught the top rope in one hand for contril as he went over, and landed on the floor just outside the ring.

JT, May 29, 2010:

Dr. Todd,

If you have the opportunity, your getting some shoulder, wrist and hand measurements of Paul Wight (wrestler Big Show) could be revealing. He’s probably close to Mark Henry’s width.
Wight back in 1999-2000 was arguably wider than he is now. His hands are also about as wide as Andre the Giant’s were but not as long. Like Wight and Andre, Dalip Singh (wrestler Great Khali) has a huge frame and hands as well due to acromegaly/gigantism and is the tallest of the three.

A shoulder measurement of Dwight Howard sounds interesting but would probably be disappointing. With television screens now in the 16:9 format, everyone looks wider than they really are. If you switch the screen to the old 4:3 format, Howard still looks wide but not quite as impressive. His square (rather than sloped) shoulders and narrow waist also add to the illusion of width. At a legit 6’10”, he’s still a remarkable athlete.

I really enjoyed your SI article about Andre the Giant. As Andre has since passed away, can you share some insight on his real height and overall size? After factoring in the afro and cowboy boots that he almost always wore outside the ring, my best guess is that he was actually closer to 6’10” and probably around 425-450 lbs. when you interviewed him. Wight is roughly 7’0” (he was listed as 7’1” as a center for Wichita State) and generally looks at least 2 inches taller when standing next to the same people that Andre did (or when standing next to persons of the same height that Andre did). Thanks!
Billy Batts said on 24/Oct/18
Andre 6'9"
Studd 6'5.5"
Hogan 6'4.5"
Uncle Elmer 6'7
Hilbilly Jim 6'3.75"
oRiOn said on 24/Oct/18
He looked about 7'0 at his peak.
Sotiris Gravas said on 24/Oct/18
How was Chris Taylor really 6'5"?! look at him next to Dusty Rhodes... Click Here Taylor is even closer to the camera.
Andre and Chris Taylor in the mid-'70s... Click Here
How tall was Rhodes at his peak, 5'11"?

Dusty and 6'1" IRS... Click Here for comparison

Dusty and 5'9" Bruno Sammartino... Click Here

Dusty and The Godwins... Click Here "Mideon" on the right was billed as 6'3". I stood next to him back in 1997 (he was in construction boots, so looked taller)


Dusty and Andre next to a door in 1976... Click Here , Click Here ,
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Sotiris Gravas said on 24/Oct/18
Here's a nice pic of Andre (closer to camera) and Bill Anderson from back in 1974 that I've never seen before... Click Here Anderson was never 6'2". He was around 6'0", but even looked 5'11" in some pics. Compare w/ Anderson and Big Show... Click Here If I'm not mistaken, Show is in Wrestling boots.


Here's some more Anderson pics I haven't seen... Here he looks about 5'11" next to Vince in this big photo... Click Here


Anderson and little maybe 5'9" Chris Jericho in this big photo... Click Here

W/ Hercules (Billed as 6'1")... Click Here

W/ Bruiser Brody (billed as 6'8" LOL!)... Click Here

W/ The Road Warriors... Click Here

W/ The Sheik... Click Here


I've seen this one before, but here's a big pic of Anderson and Big Boss Man:
Click Here Was Boss Man as low as 6'2"? Click Here

Big one of Anderson and OJ... Click Here
Gregory McCray said on 24/Oct/18
JT you are wasting your time trying to contact Terry Todd...he died July 7, 2018.
Sotiris Gravas said on 23/Oct/18
I just saw that I screwed up the Bruno Sammartino/Dean Ho pic... Here it really is (I hope):
Click Here The guy on the right is, of course, 5'10" Chief Jay Strongbow (billed as 6'0") as seen here again w/ Andre... Click Here

Bruno looks about 5'9" (closer to camera) next to Strongbow... Click Here

Strongbow w/ Larry Zybszko (billed 5'11")... Click Here

Strongbow w/ 5'9" Pedro Morales... Click Here


Nice Bill Watts pic, JT.
JT said on 23/Oct/18
62B said on 22/Oct/18
…Any chance you can post your Q@A with Terry Todd?

I emailed him from an old work account I don’t have access to any more and can’t screen cap. I posted his comments on this site. I can't recall if he estimated Andre’s actual height but did believe Andre’s hands were larger than Big Shows. Someone posted a link here years ago where Todd admitted that Andre was actually under 7’0” even though he stuck with 7'4" for the Sports Illustrated article.
RP said on 23/Oct/18
Chet Coppock Looked 1.25” to maybe 1.5” taller than Michael Jordan.
62B said on 22/Oct/18
JT said on 20/Oct/18
Here’s Chet Coppock’s email to me where he said Andre was around 3 inches taller than him and that the WWF officials asked him to not stand too close to Andre. Click Here Coppock with Dominique Wilkens, who’s around 6’7”. Click Here John Studd was a good inch shorter than Rick Barry (bottom right), who was also around 6’7”. Bill Russell was probably a strong 6’9” at this point.
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Any chance you can post your Q@A with Terry Todd?
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Oct/18
@Vegas I agree that heights are inflated in the NHL; same goes for the NFL... As for Chara, I think 6'9" is a morning height.


@Gretz Glad you liked the hockey pics, dude. I agree that they were barefoot, especially for 6'1" Esposito.


Here's Tony Garea (billed 6'1") w/ Dean Ho (billed as 6'0" LOL) and Andre back in 1973... Click Here
Garea and Ho... Click Here Ho is not very tall.

I think Bruno Sammartino and Dean Ho were about 5'9", Here they are together, Bruno closer to camera:
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Garea with Larry Zbyszko (billed 5'11") ... Click Here , Click Here They look about the same height.

Finally, I don't think Coppock was more than 6'5"... 6'6" was most likely his shoe height.
Here's a recent pic of Coppock w/ Reggie Theus (peak height 6'5", listed as 6'7")... Click Here
JT said on 22/Oct/18
Speaking of Lesnar, Shaq and the hockey players Click Here Lesnar’s in cowboy boots with Shaq.

Gretz said on 18/Oct/18
…..So in stead of trying to steal a half inch by tipping why didn`t he simply wear better than flat healed souls,give me a break.

Andre tried the big boots when he was young Click Here Even back in the early 1970s, he started looking pretty uncoordinated and cumbersome in the ring so that may be why he stopped using them. As Roel’s comarison photo shows, he probably gained around an inch with modest tip toes (e.g., in the pics with Fuller, Keirn, Rick Martel, David Von Erich...) and over two inches in full tip toe mode with the two promoters, Missing Link (Dewey Robertson).....

Sotiris Gravas said on 20/Oct/18
….Here's a color photo of a B&W pic I already posted of tippy-toe action... Click Here

Here’s Bill Watts with the same two promoters Click Here Watts was billed at 6’3” in wrestling and listed as 6’2” in football. Watts better be wearing cowboy boots here Click Here

BTW, for the Gonzalez/Napolitano photo, that came from a website that said (incorrectly) the individual was Billy Crystal, which is why I scaled the ruler that way. Regardless, both he and Napolitano are probably the same height (~ 5’6”).

Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 18/Oct/18
Interesting. Andre had cowboy boots on and host Don Lane is only 6'4 not 6'6-6'7.
Click Here this interview was likely in the mid 80s.

That was 1978. Lane had cowboy boots on too Click Here Still unclear who this guy is with Lane Click Here (it’s not Chris Greener - agree with Chaz as the nose is too small and he's too short) although he’s significantly taller than Andre.
Pdoggy said on 22/Oct/18
@JT
How does the Tony Garea interview prove anything??

Because you say Garea looked a certain height with Larry Z??

You need to do better than that.
Vegas' said on 21/Oct/18
Sotiris, I don't follow NHL but is pretty obvious alot of the players in that league are overlisted. Chara looks nowhere near 6'9 with Shaq. Blake wheeler is listed 6'5 with Lesnar (6'3 in dress-shoes) Click Here Dustin Byfuglien also listed 6'5 looked similar height as Lesnar in sandals.

As for doors they can be any height especially in Europe. I have seen doors no more than 6 foot in really old buildings and have a photo next to what is probably 6'2 front door on my old nokia phone (see if I can dig it up)
Gretz said on 21/Oct/18
Gravas i don`t know how you find these pics,but thank you so much for posting them.(I am a huge hockey fan and know all these bruins guys you posted)But as far as height goes i am going to assume Andre has his cowboy boots on that probably give him at least 2 or more inches and some of the bruins have to be barefooted.He totally dwarfs 6'1"Esposito and the pic with Hull never seen that one but if there is a height you can document it`s his he has been tested many times with scientists.Unfortunatly we can`t see the footware in any pics and in the one with Hull he is looking down darn it.So i am not going to make an estimate here to me he certainly seems like a 7 footer there but it`s just speculation as they are not full body pics.But these pics are a treasure to me thank you Gravis!and Rob can we get a Gretzky(5'11" as a guess and Mario Lemieux 6'4.5" page please).
Sotiris Gravas said on 20/Oct/18
Here... Andre is described as 6'11"... Click Here , Click Here

Here he's described as 209cm tall in 1966, when Andre was 20 years old... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 20/Oct/18
For ppl who might think Andre was ever 7'4", or even 7'5"... Here's George Napolitano w/ 7'6" (not 7'7") Giant Gonzalez... Click Here

Compare that w/ Napolitano and Andre... Click Here (1974) , Click Here

Here's Napolitano w/ Studd... Click Here

Napolitano w/ Hogan nowadays... Click Here



Here's some more tiptoeing pics of Andre:
Both Andre and Eric the Red (billed as 6'1") are on their tippy toes. Takahashi (5'5") isn't: Click Here

Here's a color photo of a B&W pic I already posted of tippy-toe action... Click Here

Just for fun, here's Hogan and Honky Tonk Man getting into it as well... Click Here


Here's an Andre/Hogan pic I've never seen before... Click Here


Lastly, here's a nice group shot w/ Andre way in the back... Click Here
RP said on 20/Oct/18
@ Gretz,
Yeah Metzler was always contradicting himself. One week he’d say 6’9.75” for Andre...next week he’d claim 6’11.5”...6 months later he’d claim 6’9.75” again. Two years later he’d say 6’11.5” again.
Pdoggy said on 20/Oct/18
@Junior Hernandez
The Don Lane show was from 1978
Pdoggy said on 20/Oct/18
@Junior Hernandez
Yes Andre does have boots on but so does Don. I really don't see a great point to compare heights. What is interesting to me is he doesn't say 7'4 he says 7'or in excess of 7'.
JT said on 20/Oct/18
Tony Garea looked only a little taller than Larry Zbysko and Dino Bravo, so there goes any chance of a 6’5” Dick Graham. Click Here 6’5” Crush/Brian Adams and Garea at WM 9. Click Here

Halb said on 18/Oct/18
62b, well I forget the bloke's name! I did go and look back to see if I could find what I thought was posted, but everyone said the WM2 announcer said 6'10, which seems more reasonable at least, and it was only an estimate.

Here’s Chet Coppock’s email to me where he said Andre was around 3 inches taller than him and that the WWF officials asked him to not stand too close to Andre. Click Here Coppock with Dominique Wilkens, who’s around 6’7”. Click Here John Studd was a good inch shorter than Rick Barry (bottom right), who was also around 6’7”. Bill Russell was probably a strong 6’9” at this point.

I’d need to see more proof whether Coppock was a legit 6’6” or if that is a round up. Click Here I stood right next to Volkoff backstage at a WWF event that same year (1986) and he was around 6’2”. Of the wrestlers I saw backstage (JYD, SD Jones, Adrian Adonis, Corporal Kirschner), IIRC Volkoff was the only one who was not wearing cowboy boots.
Sotiris Gravas said on 19/Oct/18
Here are some more Andre/NHL pics:


W/ 6'1" Phil Esposito (perhaps barefoot here)... Click Here

W/ 5'11" Darryl Edestrand... Click Here

W/ 5'11" Dallas Smith (maybe barefoot here)... Click Here

Rare pic w/ 5'10" Bobby Hull... Click Here

W/ 5'10" Dave Forbes... Click Here

W/ 5'8" Ross Brooks... Click Here




Here's 21-year-old Andre at his parents' home in France... Click Here What height was that doorway...?

(Just for fun, here's an Ernie Ladd/doorway pic)... Click Here



Andre w/ 6'3" Baron Scicluna... Click Here


Andre w/ Eddie Marlin (billed as 6'0")... Click Here


Andre in a nice Superman tee w/ The Hangman... Click Here
Undertaker Frank said on 19/Oct/18
Halb That announcer i believe said Andre had about 3 inches on him and he was 6ft 6 i dont believe he said 6ft 10
Gretz said on 19/Oct/18
! read an article that all the back stage rumors were that Andre was 6'10.75" at W.M.3.someone had been measuring a door that Andre always passed,and for what it is worth it came out to that.And even though I think he peaked at 7'0" and a fraction(or maybe even 7'1" in the morning)so i can even buy this measurement against hulk.I even read an article were college students did an analysis of pixels And found Andre to be 5 inches taller than Hogan,now hulk had a slight foot ware advantage and it is not an exact measuring tool it still seems pretty close to me opinions?
RoelC said on 19/Oct/18
Halb said on 18/Oct/18
62b, well I forget the bloke's name! I did go and look back to see if I could find what I thought was posted, but everyone said the WM2 announcer said 6'10, which seems more reasonable at least, and it was only an estimate.
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Coppock estimated Andre about 3inches taller than himself.

Again, I've seen several height estimations for Andre by a wide range of people (wrestlers not included). Seeing as there are so many different estimations, I personally don't hold much value for a personal estimation.

The lowest height estimation I've seen for Andre was 6'8". A sports photographer estimated him at that height when he was in the Boston Bruins locker room back in 1974.

Andre's brothers both independently said Andre was 2m18. That's apparently also the height that was listed on Andre's passport.
62B said on 18/Oct/18
JT said on 17/Oct/18
tree said on 16/Oct/18
Lets say Andre was 7ft tall,i wonder how big he would looks next to 7ft8 Igor Vovorosky,someboy could make a comparison in photoshop?

Click Here Dr. Oz is supposedly 6’1” per that “other site” so I assumed he was 6’0”. Igor’s shoes are huge, including the heels, but still likely less than the boost given by Andre’s cowboy boots. As huge as Igor is, including his feet, his hands really don’t look acromegalic.
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JT. Regardless of the height difference, you know that even if Andre's cowboy boot heels are a little bigger, the toe is normal where this Igor's shoes are about the same from heel to toe giving him a more overall height boost. I think at at best the footwear would be negligible. FYI, I have no clue how tall Dr. Oz is
Gretz said on 18/Oct/18
I was looking at old Andre match results from 1971 and 1974,and in either of these years did I see one single match from France(mid-atlantic gateway by the way I will list my source unlike Meltzer).And I can`t find one match from france,I have U.S.A,Canada,Japan and even Australia.Wow looks like this measurement from this unknown athletic commission in France never happened,you know the one where they gave out private medical evidence that Andre was a mere 6'9.5".How could it have happened if he wasn`t in the flipping country.I have seen people that e-mailed him before and he won`t even tell you what city this happened in,or if this commission even still or if it ever existed.this is the internet era I can`t get an address or phone number to ask about this,it`s not top secret it`s a lie plain and simple.Meltzer himself says Andre is 6'11.5" in the Wilt pic,the problem is the story is a contrived piece of nonsense.I bet I could find the number of the new york state athletic commission,why is the one in france such a secret the war has been over for 73 years.
Gretz said on 18/Oct/18
Keirn,pic shows me nothing JT.even his right foot( and he has his less than 1/4 inch soules as far as i can aqueous)even his right foot looks on the ground to me.The left without question,this shows he wasn`t trying to gain height in the ring and that most guys where gaining a half inch or more against Andre for the most part(that includes Hulkster,even if it was unintentional.So in stead of trying to steal a half inch by tipping why didn`t he simply wear better than flat healed souls,give me a break.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 18/Oct/18
Interesting. Andre had cowboy boots on and host Don Lane is only 6'4 not 6'6-6'7.

Click Here this interview was likely in the mid 80s.
Halb said on 18/Oct/18
62b, well I forget the bloke's name! I did go and look back to see if I could find what I thought was posted, but everyone said the WM2 announcer said 6'10, which seems more reasonable at least, and it was only an estimate.
Gretz said on 18/Oct/18
62B,if you think Andre was 6'11"-7'0" at peak then we are very close here.In fact I might have to revise his estimate,and ironically it is because of Dave Meltzer?Because he just estimated in an article I read that he thought Ernie Ladd was 6'9.5".If it is correct I can only say hogan was 6'6"+ and you can add a half inch to anyone who is 6'8" or more.And put Andre at 7'0.5" even in 1975.it`s hard in there matches to get a good comparison but there is no way Andre does not have 3 inches on Ladd.I don`t have time now but i will get into this later,i had even stated in the last pics of Ladd that he looked a little taller than 6'9 to me.so maybe there is something to it thought I still don`t trust Meltzer.
tree said on 18/Oct/18
Hundreds of others I'm sure guessed him 6ft 11-7ft range, as much as those who guess him 7ft to 7ft 1 range.

I know rob i am just kidding lol
62B said on 17/Oct/18
Halb, no insult intended. a little sarcasm maybe. I doesn't matter to me how tall Andre was. I know he was taller than 6'9" 1n 1988 and I know he was significantly shorter than a mid 90's Rik Smits who I stood just as close to as I did Andre
Pdoggy said on 17/Oct/18
So let me get this straight we will accept and use pictures where the camera angle is so blatantly off but we will not use pictures where the camera angle is at a perfect distance setup in the middle both people are standing straight are within a few inches of each other those pics need to be thrown out and we need to use the pictures that are posted probably manipulated with people who are a foot and a half shorter I'm just not getting it.

Why post pics that have people not standing straight camera angle is from the floor I just don't understand what is gained by posting pictures of people slouching leaning way closer to the camera I don't understand what is gained by that.

We accept Chet Coppock's word but not Terry Todd?? Coppock was exactly the same height as Hogan. Anyone care to downgrade Dick Graham?? He is standing over 6'5 with Andre and he is in the middle of Andre's nose. The security guard is at Andre's eyebrow with a slight foot ware advantage putting him closer to 6'9. So how is the security guard 6'5??

WHEN ANDRE IS PICTURED WITH PEOPLE 6'8 TO 6'10 HE ALWAYS HAS INCHES ON THEM.

People need to realize Big Show was shorter than Andre. From Paul's own mouth he claims Andre was taller. Because this is what all the downgrading is about making sure that people believe that Andre was shorter than Big Show .Andre's page is the most commented and he passed away 25 years ago. People can't get enough Andre. He was beloved revered respected he was the man. Vince has been trying to come up with a new giant since Andre started to break down and they still haven't replaced him and they never will.
Halb said on 17/Oct/18
62B said on 16/Oct/18
Halb said on 15/Oct/18
Quite RoelC, there's the WM2 ring announcer (Chuck) who estimated André at 6'9 since they were so close in height, and in the same ring.
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I thought the story was that he thought Andre was 6'9 OR 10. And In the pictures that same 6'6" ring announcer looks a good 4" shorter. Another Story goes that Terry Todd (who has been just as close or closer as Chet Coppock was) says a young Andre was 7' or a little more and that he lost a "notch" or two when he was older. But you're so smart.
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his comments were posted here a while back, I thought it was 6'9. Chet has no bias and this was before any supposed 'height loss'. Please keep your insults to yourself, this doesn't help your argument.
tree said on 17/Oct/18
Click Here
Editor Rob
Hundreds of others I'm sure guessed him 6ft 11-7ft range, as much as those who guess him 7ft to 7ft 1 range.
62B said on 17/Oct/18
JT said on 16/Oct/18
Andre’s on his tip toes with Steve Keirn You can clearly see the shadow created by the edge of the boot which angles opposite the boot angle Click Here There would have been no gap between Andre’s boot and the shadow had he been standing flat-footed. The shadow from the left boot does not extend very far back, which is a dead giveaway that the left heel is also off the ground.

There are several pics of Andre on his tip toes which have been posted on this site over the years so this should not come as any surprise.

Andre and Christine Jarrett Click Here No clue about her height but she was apparently known as "Teeny". Same wall Andre is standing in front of here Click Here and Stan Frazier/Uncle Elmer here Click Here
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Pretty nice find with those pictures JT. Really shows what camera angles and distances can do. In the 1st picture the top of Andre's head appears to be into the 12th tile, but in the 2nd its about half way up the 11th. Uncle Elmer's appears to be just shy of the 12th tile in his picture. To bad Uncle Elmer didn't have a shot like Andre's 2nd picture. In the close up of Andres boots, to me it really just looks like maybe he is lifting up his back foot. Still doesn't look like he is on his tip toes.
JT said on 17/Oct/18
tree said on 16/Oct/18
Lets say Andre was 7ft tall,i wonder how big he would looks next to 7ft8 Igor Vovorosky,someboy could make a comparison in photoshop?

Click Here Dr. Oz is supposedly 6’1” per that “other site” so I assumed he was 6’0”. Igor’s shoes are huge, including the heels, but still likely less than the boost given by Andre’s cowboy boots. As huge as Igor is, including his feet, his hands really don’t look acromegalic.
62B said on 16/Oct/18
Halb said on 15/Oct/18
Quite RoelC, there's the WM2 ring announcer (Chuck) who estimated André at 6'9 since they were so close in height, and in the same ring.
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I thought the story was that he thought Andre was 6'9 OR 10. And In the pictures that same 6'6" ring announcer looks a good 4" shorter. Another Story goes that Terry Todd (who has been just as close or closer as Chet Coppock was) says a young Andre was 7' or a little more and that he lost a "notch" or two when he was older. But you're so smart.
62B said on 16/Oct/18
Gretz, what the heck. lol, Generally I feel Andre was peak between 6'11" and 7'. Most likely if he did hit 7' it was earlier in the day. That's my opinion for Andre's peak height. As for the tip toe photo's. I promise you I have no desperate argument to make Andre any shorter or taller than he was. I just said I thought a few of the shown photo's showed Andre on his toes. Maybe its an optical illusion. I also feel some of them are wishful thinking by the people who posted them.
Prusso said on 16/Oct/18
@undertaker Frank no he doesn't. Hogan and Wepner came halfway up Andre's nose when he had good posture. Just like Dick Graham. 6'5 to 6'6 middle of Andre's nose again with good posture peak. Eyebrows was 6'8 to 6'9. Baba was a little higher than that. Ed Jones would be in that same eyebrow area. Andre needs to be standing straight otherwise things change drastically.
Gretz said on 16/Oct/18
Wow that`s amazing frank how you can say an unknown security gauard who is listed as 6'8",and just decide in you mind he was 6'5".And he is not even in the pic with the guys you are talking about.Do you have godlike height powers or something,i think not you only have the power of having a big head.
Gretz said on 16/Oct/18
roelC it`s odd every pic you show has Andre`s left foot slightly off the ground ,but his right foot is solidly on the ground.This means he gains no height at all,Maybe his left foot was bothering him at the time.But it gains him nothing and why dosen`t he do it next to guys 6'8" and taller?when he pours champagne on hogan in that 1984 back stage vidieo he sure isn`t tip toing and looks a strong 6 inches at least taller than the new champ.
JT said on 16/Oct/18
Andre’s on his tip toes with Steve Keirn You can clearly see the shadow created by the edge of the boot which angles opposite the boot angle Click Here There would have been no gap between Andre’s boot and the shadow had he been standing flat-footed. The shadow from the left boot does not extend very far back, which is a dead giveaway that the left heel is also off the ground.

There are several pics of Andre on his tip toes which have been posted on this site over the years so this should not come as any surprise.

Andre and Christine Jarrett Click Here No clue about her height but she was apparently known as "Teeny". Same wall Andre is standing in front of here Click Here and Stan Frazier/Uncle Elmer here Click Here
Pdoggy said on 16/Oct/18
With what is known of Andre's personality he probably did the raising of his foot as a joke with shorter people. Otherwise he did not need to do it to gain height. It would make more sense to do it with Fuller, Elmer, Baba,the 6'8" officer etc.....he didn't explain that. The point of the raised foot was that he did it to save face with Fulller. He didn't. Then it was Fuller is 6'7 not 6'9 in shoes. Oh how the nay sayers wish there was a pic with too tall. Bull as soon as we discover one they will downgrade Ed Jones as well.
Undertaker Frank said on 16/Oct/18
Pdoggy i dont believe that cop is 6ft 8 because he looks the same height as Chuck Wepner & Hogan did next to Andre i would say 6ft 5 for that cop IMHO
tree said on 16/Oct/18
The guy who takes the interview is supposodly 6ft tall,now 6ft guys always reached atleast andres chin
tree said on 16/Oct/18
Lets say Andre was 7ft tall,i wonder how big he would looks next to 7ft8 Igor Vovorosky,someboy could make a comparison in photoshop?
Igor was 6ft tall at the age of 6,i wonder how strong he was at that age,just think about it 6ft tall but weak as a little kid Click Here
62B said on 15/Oct/18
@RoelC. I can tell you this. I have worked with two 6'9 guys in my life and seen several others. There was a 6'9" guy in the motor pool the same time I saw Andre. I know Andre was taller than 6'9"
62B said on 15/Oct/18
@RoelC. I understand people being skeptical of a personal encounter. But yes, I have always been height conscience, maybe not quite like today, but I payed attention to things like shoes.
Gretz said on 15/Oct/18
62B,i have seen every pic where Andre is supposed to be tip towing,shadow and foot position seem to make it look that way in some .In one his foot is against the cinder block wall and his heel looks a little higher because of it,but i don`t think it changes his height as the another foot is solidly on the ground.i have an idea let`s have JT enhance the pic to prove andre is tip toing .25 inches,there is no space between his heel and the floor And these guys are what 5'10" to 6'0".you don`t do this with guys that are a foot shorter than you(would you tip toe to gain height against your 10 year old nephew?)he certainly isn`t doing it in the wilt pics,if at any time I would think it would be there.and try to tip toe a .25 of an inch it`s hard for me to maintain that posture for more than a 1/4 second.Imagine 500 lbs. Andre trying to do it he would stumble to the floor.Now maybe he could maintain that if he tip towed 2.5 3 inches,fora short time before he stumbled.and check the pic with Andre and Wahoo(a controversial poster named Jason,probably the most infamous poster ever swore Andre was tip toeing because he looked every bit of 7'0" in this pic.Check it i posted it 10 years ago he is doing nothing of the sort again ask Danimal we talked about this subject 10 years ago.Take your desperate out of date argument and go home.
RoelC said on 15/Oct/18
Andre did have a habit of occasionally standing on his toes (or slightly lifting his heels) while taking a backstage pic with other wrestlers.

Here are 2 pretty clear cases of Andre standing on his toes.
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He's also slightly lifting his heels of the ground in the pic with Steve Keirn. You can tell by the shadows.
Click Here

Here are 2 pics of Andre standing inbetween Steve Keirn & Mike Graham.
Click Here (with his feet flat on the ground)
Click Here (with his heels slightly lifted)

Photoshop the 2 images together and you see the result.
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In the pic with Ron Fuller its less obvious if he's slightly lifting his heels. But I have to agree with JT that there's something fishy with that pic. Ron Fuller's head is simply too small.
Halb said on 15/Oct/18
Quite RoelC, there's the WM2 ring announcer (Chuck) who estimated André at 6'9 since they were so close in height, and in the same ring.
RoelC said on 15/Oct/18
62B said on 11/Oct/18
@ RoelC. The biggest problem I have with a peak Andre being 6'10" to 6'10.5" is that he was at least that tall when I saw him in 1988. I know time of day and the fact that he was most likely in his orthopedic shoes factor in when I saw him, but I initially thought he was 7' when he stood straight up. If he truly peaked at 6'10" or so then he couldn't have lost any height by 1988. JT, I have to agree with Pdoggy about the tip toe thing. I think maybe you are being fooled by shadows in that picture. Andre doesn't appear to be intentionally trying to make himself appear taller, his toes aren't bent at all and he is leaning down a little resting his arm on Keirns shoulder.
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No offense 62B, but I don't think a personal encounter with Andre is any solid evidence of his height.
Especially considering the heights that are given for Andre from various people outside the world of pro-wrestling range from 6'8" to well over 7ft tall. It goes to show you how tough it was to accurately estimate Andre's height.

Your encounter with Andre happened 30 years ago. Back then it wasn't as well known that Andre wasn't 7'4" as it is today. Were you really that height conscious back then as you are today? I know I'm not. Through this site I learned a great deal about how to estimate people's heights. Before that, I never really paid attention to postures, footwear, camera angles, etc.

Also you're much shorter than Andre, so I'd be surprised if you could accurately estimate Andre's height in person down to an inch.
62B said on 14/Oct/18
@Gretz. A few of those tip toe pics appear to be legit
62B said on 14/Oct/18
Sotiris Gravas said on 12/Oct/18
If this mattress is 75 inches long... how tall is Andre on this bed? Click Here
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A lot of variables. One Andres appears to have his arms against the wall propping up his head a little so his head could really be past the top of the mattress a little. Two, how far off the edge of the bed are his feet hanging? I did a search for wrestling boot height and found a company advertising their boot as 16" tall, so I think Andre's feet could be hanging over by 10".Three is that a true 75" twin mattress? Or is it a twin XL that would be 80". It looks like it would be the 75" from the picture, but maybe Andre is just making it look small. Personally if its a 75" mattress 7' looks possible for Andre.
Pdoggy said on 14/Oct/18
Yes Gravas in that pic you just posted on 1o/13 his right foot is off the ground. That looks nothing like the other pics that were noted. You can see his boot is higher. I don't know what is gained by it, but I do see it in that pic. However not in the Fuller pic.
62B said on 14/Oct/18
@JT. Rob Fuller was listed at 6'5". He seems to stack up to Andre about the same as a young 6'3" Ted Dibiase did. At least in the picture you provided
Pdoggy said on 14/Oct/18
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Again Andre pictured with a relaxed posture someone who is 6 foot 8 to 6 foot 9 in Footwear comes out right around his eyebrows proves once again Andre is at least 7 ft or more.

Thankfully it's not a picture with him with somebody who is 5 foot 6 or 5 foot 7 he's much closer in height to Andre. Much easier to gauge a few inches rather a foot and a half.
Gretz said on 13/Oct/18
Andre is not tip toeing in any of these pics,i can see no space between his heel and the floor.the levels that people go to shrink him is remarkable.In the pic with martel and his partner his heel is mearly closer to the wall.Give me a break he can tiptoe what a 1/4 of an inch you can either tiptoe like 2+ inches or you can`t,and this is with short people why i would think if he would try this it would be in the wilt pics.So get a life guys it`s just not true.the consensus is he was 7'0'Rob has him listed at the 7 foot mark.I remember JaSON years ago said Andre looked 7'0" next to Wahoo Mcdaniel but said he was tip toeing,they both had cowboy boots on and if you check the pic he`s not.Can you really do a 1/4 inch tip at 475+ I think not,but you guys that think Andre was 6'10" peak have been losing for a long time so anything you come up with is a desperate thing.
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Oct/18
Here's yet another Andre pic we can file under the rubric of "Tippy Toes"... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 12/Oct/18
If this mattress is 75 inches long... how tall is Andre on this bed? Click Here
Pdoggy said on 12/Oct/18
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Pdoggy said on 12/Oct/18
Someone needs to find a pic from WrestleMania 2 with Andre and Too Tall. That way people get begin downgrading Too Tall as well.
Pdoggy said on 11/Oct/18
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At the 20 second mark you can see just how much taller Andre is than Dick Graham who undoubtedly has a footwear advantage and that awful toupee. 6'5 Dick Graham.

There are also points in the interview where Andre lowers that huge noggin and can appear much shorter.
JT said on 11/Oct/18
Robert Fuller with Ron Fuller and Robert with Andre Click Here Robert looked around 6’2” in WCW and that’s about how a 6’2” guy measures up to Andre (around 3 inches below eye level). Robert has big heels on here with Ron so he’s maybe 6’4” in shoes with Ron looking 6’7”-6’8” in wrestling boots

Sotiris, I read somewhere that Ed Carpentier (a former gymnast) was 5’7”. He doesn’t look any taller than that here Click Here Click Here With Andre Click Here
62B said on 11/Oct/18
@ RoelC. The biggest problem I have with a peak Andre being 6'10" to 6'10.5" is that he was at least that tall when I saw him in 1988. I know time of day and the fact that he was most likely in his orthopedic shoes factor in when I saw him, but I initially thought he was 7' when he stood straight up. If he truly peaked at 6'10" or so then he couldn't have lost any height by 1988. JT, I have to agree with Pdoggy about the tip toe thing. I think maybe you are being fooled by shadows in that picture. Andre doesn't appear to be intentionally trying to make himself appear taller, his toes aren't bent at all and he is leaning down a little resting his arm on Keirns shoulder.
RP said on 11/Oct/18
Fuller...6’6.75” barefoot ...6’8” in footwear ...From all evidence I’ve seen.
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Oct/18
@Undertaker Frank Wow! Thanks. I'm surprised anyone thinks that, given that I once thought Andre was shorter than 6'10". Pics like this made me think he wasn't soooo tall:
Click Here

Here are some more Andre/Hogan pics where Andre really doesn't look that tall next to a 6'4.5" Hogan:
Click Here , Click Here Of course, Andre's bad posture doesn't help matters...


Putting Andre next to a short guy obviously helps accentuate his height, as seen here w/ Rick "Quick Draw" McGraw (billed as 5'7", but was probably more like 5'6")... Click Here




AS FOR ANDRE ON HIS TIPPY TOES IN SOME PICS:

Sometimes, Andre does try to tiptoe pics, like this one w/ a young Rick Martel:
Click Here, which I previously posted. I do think he was doing it w/ Ron Fuller, and the pic w/ David Von Erich. I think he's even doing it a little bit here... Click Here
Pdoggy said on 10/Oct/18
In February 1966 footage Andre claims 2 meters 10 which basically is 6ft 10.66 inches it is definitely possible that he grew a couple more inches after that because he had just turned 20 very feasible he actually does look smaller there because he's so much younger, thinner and it's obvious he is still timid and shy.
RoelC said on 9/Oct/18
62B said on 7/Oct/18
@ RoelC, the Hurricanes had him listed at 6'8" between 1968 and 1970. Just don't know if that is a shoe listing or barefoot. I'm sure he was at least 6'7". In that picture with Andre its hard to tell what footwear advantage he may have, probably a 1/2" or more. I think with that particular picture its hard to put Andre under 6'10.5". If Fuller was 6'8" Then I think Andre would come out to around 6'11.5" possibly even 7'.
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Yeah I knew he was listed 6'8" in college basketball. He was in his early 20's back then, so that's about the max height he could've been (as college basketball tends to exaggerate the height of its players more often than not).

Seriously he doesn't look that tall to me. With the camera tilt corrected Fuller comes up to Andre's eyebrows. That would put him in the same height range as Big John Studd. And Studd looked no more than 6'6" based on how he measured up against 6'7" Rick Barry and 6'5" Bill Fralic.


Fuller could be taller if Andre is indeed standing on his tippy toes or if Andre is indeed leaning forward. But that doesn't do anything for Andre's height. People who see a 6'8-6'9" Ron Fuller in that pic are ignoring the pics of Andre next to guys like Hogan, Studd, Wepner, Dick Graham, Don Leo Jonathan, Giant Baba, etc.


Here's Fuller next to ~6'5" David von Erich.
Click Here
Doesn't seem to be much difference between the two.
Pdoggy said on 9/Oct/18
Furthermore why would he go up on toes with Steve Keirn then tilt his head as well?? Dude everything isn't a conspiracy.
Pdoggy said on 9/Oct/18
@Jt

What are you talking about??

There is no bend in his shoe at all. With a size 20+ shoe Andre would be far taller if he was actually up on his toes.

Honestly does it matter that much to you that you will flat out make things up?? I know Vince had him stand on boxes but when we can see everything and you still want to just fabricate a solution to why he is looking over 7'.

What is gained from that?? 7'4" myth debunked long ago but really how many more people over 6'8" does he need to be pictured with to make it stick?? His Legacy is set in stone, nothing will change that.
Pdoggy said on 9/Oct/18
@Tree
What I meant was everyone says when someone is closer to the camera they have an advantage. I did not mean that everyone has commented on this pic.
JT said on 9/Oct/18
Andre’s on his tip toes here with Steve Keirn and the boot angles look similar to the pic with Fuller. Click Here In contrast Andre standing flat footed with Debbie Harry Click Here Her head comes out about as big as Fuller’s so he either has the head size of a 5’3” woman or is farther from the camera.
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Oct/18
Andre w/ Edouard Carpentier (billed 5'10") was maybe 5'9" peak height... Click Here
(Guy on the left is Yvon Robert Jr.)
Another pic of Andre w/ Carpentier... Click Here

Here's Carpentier w/ Maurice Vachon (billed 5'7") back in 2003... Click Here

Here's Vachon and Verne Gagne (billed 5'11")#TippyToes... Click Here
Gagne was shorter than 5'11".
Keep that in mind when comparing Gagne to Andre.. Click Here
Gagne and Vince (leaning in) back in 2006... Click Here

Verne and 5'9" Pedro Morales (billed 5'10")... Click Here
Morales and Andre... Click Here
Verne Bruno Sammartino and Andre... Click Here
Sammartino (closer to camera) and Morales... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 8/Oct/18
I already posted a pic of 5'10" Bobby Hull w/ Andre, but here's a BIG one I found:
Click Here
Pdoggy said on 8/Oct/18
@JT
Thank you.

I don't see how anyone could say he is under 7' in this pic.
I definitely don't see tippy toes though. Does anyone else??
Undertaker Frank said on 8/Oct/18
Sotiris, I have to admit your Guesses on Heights might be the most accurate on here !!!
I tip my hat too you
tree said on 8/Oct/18
Everybody says?U are the first to comment on it and he looks 1.5 inch taller but he may be closer.
Kunoichi said on 8/Oct/18
Real World Tag League Opening Event 1983

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184guy2 said on 8/Oct/18
@JT
I believe Barry was just under 6'5 or 6'5 on the dot , while Hogan was a fraction over . Blackjack for sure was taller his son Barry . He probably was 6'5 and change , like Hogan
JT said on 7/Oct/18
Camera tilt in favor of Fuller, which I corrected here Click Here Looking at Andre’s right heel, he may be on his tippy toes. Fuller’s head is still too small for them to be standing side by side. The feet are pretty close but it could be Fuller leaning back and/or Andre leaning forward. Looks like Fuller has dress shoes on.

This was the best I could match up Barry Windham and Fuller from their match in Japan Click Here Windham and Sid Click Here

Blackjack Mulligan was listed as 6’4” when he played semi-pro football and referred to as 6’5” when he was drafted by the NY Jets. Click Here The lowest I would ever go for Barry Windham is 6’4”. He was basically Hogan’s height in the mid-1980s. Click Here (at 4:40 if the video does not jump to that spot).
Pdoggy said on 7/Oct/18
tree said on 6/Oct/18
We can se from the Bugner VS Wepner fight that Chuck was defintley not 6ft6.

WHAT!!!

The pic shows 2 inch difference and like everybody says Wepner doesn't have the camera advantage. What are you looking at??

Tree I respectfully disagree.
62B said on 7/Oct/18
@ RoelC, the Hurricanes had him listed at 6'8" between 1968 and 1970. Just don't know if that is a shoe listing or barefoot. I'm sure he was at least 6'7". In that picture with Andre its hard to tell what footwear advantage he may have, probably a 1/2" or more. I think with that particular picture its hard to put Andre under 6'10.5". If Fuller was 6'8" Then I think Andre would come out to around 6'11.5" possibly even 7'.
Pdoggy said on 7/Oct/18
Don't look now but here come the downgrades on Ron Fuller again.

The reason I believe Ron Fuller is at 6'9 is how he lines up to Andre compared to how Baba does, uncle elmer does, Tyler Mane does etc.

There are many people who Andre has been pictured with who are all in that 6'8 to 6'10 range. Andre comes out at 7' or better in all of them. The issue with the posters who believe Andre is under 7' is that they still want him to look like a traditional 7 footer does next to a 6' tall person. Who cares what he looks like next to a 6 footer. When we have so many pics with people in that higher range.

The pic with Ron Fuller is more proof of the size of Andre's head. I posted about this weeks back. Their chin level starts at the same spot but the TOP of Andre's head is 4 inches higher than Ron's. Even their shoulder level is similar. Andre's incredible mass made him look bigger but took away from his actual height.

I guarantee that if there was a pic posted of Andre and Too Tall Jones people would start downgrading Jones as well. Because Andre was taller than 6'9 by far. I think I've heard that somewhere....
miko said on 7/Oct/18
Hogan was 6'5/6'5.25 and Andre was 5 inches taller from the late 70's to the late 80's.

If Andre was ever 7 foot then Hogan was 6'7, which as we all know is crazy.
tree said on 7/Oct/18
When Andre isnt standing on a box with Vince Click Here
Too bad he wasn't this tall Click Here

But this would have been to much bad mobilty and more back injuries he lookes like 7ft7 here,taller than his billed height Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/Oct/18
Andre (closer to camera) w/ billed 6'2" Tony Atlas... Click Here

Andre (closer to camera) w/ 6'2.5" Vader (billed 6'5")... Click Here

Andre w/ 6'2.5" Ali... Click Here


Ali and Atlas... Click Here

Vader and Atlas in 1992... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/Oct/18
@Vegas' Wow! Great pic of Shaq w/ Chara... Shaq is closer to the camera and maybe 6'9" is a morning height for Chara.
Guanzo said on 6/Oct/18
Andre fans by a years,

Andre is 7'4"! in 90s
Andre is 7'2"! in 00s
Andre is 7'0"! in 2010-2016
Andre is 6'11"! in 2017
Andre is 6'10"! in 2018
Andre is 6'9" 3/4! in 2019

What's next? Andre is 6'8"?
tree said on 6/Oct/18
We can se from the Bugner VS Wepner fight that Chuck was defintley not 6ft6.
Vegas' said on 6/Oct/18
Gretz. My post had nothing to do with Andre (not even sure why you referenced him). I posted that photo because Sotiris Gravas has continually referenced Shaq as being 6'11 range since he started posting here and last couple of days stated that he thought Zdeno Chara was 6'9...just want to show what a 6'9 and 6'11 person :) looked like standing side by side!

Not sure which Shaq and Wilt photo you refer too. If it's the one I am thinking of then top of Shaqs head is taller, but it's not good for comparison purposes given the position photo was taken from.

Re: slaughter, he was billed 6'3 in WWF in 91.

Re: Windham Jr. He was same height as Dustin Runnels in early 90s in same footwear and runnels was shorter than the Conan o'Brien on his show circa 1995-96 so I doubt he was taller than 6'4 peak. If Windham was 6'5 then Sid Eudy was 6'8 peak or very close to it
RP said on 6/Oct/18
Gretz, SGT Slaughter was 6’3” at his peak.
tree said on 6/Oct/18
And Hogan didn't have thicker boots Click Here
7ft is too much for Andre.
tree said on 6/Oct/18
I dont wanna be a parrot but 6ft6 Hogan is just under his eyes guys,so 6ft11.5 was his peak.
RoelC said on 6/Oct/18
JT said on 1/Oct/18
Click Here We can’t see Fuller’s footwear and we can’t tell if Andre is on his tippy toes so there’s no point in speculating about Andre’s height from this pic. Fuller’s also a little farther from the camera unless a witch doctor shrunk his head.

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Credit to Chris from the Andre the Giant facebook page for sending me this fully scaled photo of Andre & Ron Fuller.

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Andre is not on his tippytoes or anything. He doesn't seem to be standing closer to the camera either. He seems to be having around 3 inches on Fuller.
It's unclear what type of footwear Fuller is wearing. He probably has a footwear advantage, but it's unclear how much.

How tall was Ron Fuller though?
Ton said on 5/Oct/18
I followed Andre's career ever since I was a child, and if you look up him versus Abdullah the Butcher on youtube, he looks taller than anywhere else I have seen him. Pause at 10 and 11 seconds, and he looks every bit of 7 feet or more. He is still somewhat trim, and I'm guessing this was circa late 1970's.
Love this site.
tree said on 5/Oct/18
In the pic Wepner looks to stand a bit closer giving him an advantage.
tree said on 5/Oct/18
6ft4 Joe Bugner with Wepner too bad we don't see there shoes Click Here

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Gretz said on 5/Oct/18
I well,really my sister met sgt. slaughter at the wildwood convention center in 1980.He shook my sister`s hand and dwarfed my 6'1"father I estimate him at about 6'4.5" am I in the ballpark anyone.Hogan was taller in his prime.
Gretz said on 5/Oct/18
Vegas we can`t even see the foot ware they have on in the Shack pic,and yes he does look tall next to Chara there.No one is saying Chara is as tall as Wilt.But if you insert Shack in the pic with Andre and Wilt they are all going to look around the same height,so your attempt to shrink Andre fails again(and yes i know Andre has a foot ware advantage in the wilt pic but wilt has a big wig on too).So you have proved Shack is taller than Chara great work.An old Wilt in dress shoes looks taller than a prime height rookie Shack with thick soul size sneakers on probably 19.So Shack ain`t all of that either.
Gretz said on 4/Oct/18
Gravis,i have always thought windham was a legit 6'5" and his father Mulligan 6'6".And if you think he was 6'11" at his peak we are not far off my friend.I think in the early 70`s out of bed he could be 7'0.50" to 7'0.75".But I only think he was this height for a decade or so(I have watched his career since 1974 when he always wore a brown leather vest to the ring).Now by the time he showed up to actually wrestle i`m pretty sure he was 7'0" even but even in 1976 like when he fought Wepner who was listed from 6'5" to 6'6.5.although I suspect he was at the time 6'5.5" even his manager said he was 6'6" and Andre made him look like a pygmy.This match did not look to be scripted and Andre took a hard shot got mad and simply picked up a 250LB man and threw him over the top rope.The last time i can say I felt Andre was at THE 7'0" MARK was in a pic with bob Backlund in 1978,they were both dead on 7'0" and 6'1" against a cinder block wall and they were almost against it.however as a building maintenance guy i personally measured many cinder block walls in the fire towers,and they always come out at a certain height so take it with a grain of salt.I think he was at one point 7 foot,I posted many years ago the 1969 promo pics he sure looks 7'0" there.Really what I would like to see the report when Andre was arrested in I think iowa i`m sure they must have measured him this was like 1989-90 so im sure was was in the 6'10" range by that point.
Vegas' said on 4/Oct/18
Shaq making Zdeno Chara look "short" Click Here

Looks similar height actually to next to Shaq as Deontay Wilder Click Here
James Keffer said on 3/Oct/18
Weird. I always thought he was around 6'9, 6'10.
Gretz said on 3/Oct/18
Gravis i have no problem with Chara at 6'9",and that slap shot around 110 m.p.h incredible.Would have loved to see a pic of him with his skates on next to Andre it would have been very close.
tree said on 3/Oct/18
Rob what u think Andres eyelevel was,if 6ft6 Hogan is under peak Andres eyes u think he was still 7ft?
Editor Rob
Somewhere in 5-5.25 inch range might have been possible for his eyelevel.
tree said on 3/Oct/18
The best posture we have seen from Andre ,there is Bob Heenan,Haku and Rick rude Click Here
And it looks like the distance from his eyes till the top of his head wasn't more than 13cm
6FT6 Hogan was just under his eyes,unless Andre had a 14cm eyeleve i can't see him at 7ft Click Here
Here the biggest difference in that clip Hogan just under Andres eye Click Here
Older Andre has the same amount on hogan in wm3 maybe Hogan shrunk a bit too Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Oct/18
@JT Great pic of Studd w/ Kowalski and Don Leo Jonathan and Andre! (I was under the impression that Barry Windham was more 6'4" and that his dad, Blackjack Mulligan, was more 6'5".)

I also see Ladd as being more 6'7", not 6'9". Here he is w/ Vince... Click Here
Looking very short here w/ Vince when not standing straight... Click Here

As compared to Ladd w/ 6'1" Jack Kemp... Click Here


Here's Studd w/ Andre back in 1983 on the set of "Micki and Maude"... Click Here




@Gretz It's funny you brought up Zdeno Chara. I actually forgot to post some pics on him along w/ big Mario Lemieux... He looks 6'9" to me...
Click Here

Here's Chara w/ 5'10" Tomas Tatar... Click Here looking at least 6'9". (The worst pain was getting a hockey puck to the knee via a slapshot, w/o wearing protection.)


As for Andre, I think he might have been 6'11" barefoot peak height when he was young and thin. Later in his career, he looked around 6'10" and would even look 6'9" in the years leading up to his death when he didn't stand straight. For 7 feet tall, it would have to be in the morning hours. My 2 cents.

Here's Andre w/ another "Gentle Giant," Buddy Baker (1979)... Click Here Thing is, I've heard Baker described as both 6'6" AND 6'4". How tall was he really...?
RP said on 1/Oct/18
JT, Kawolski has last about an inch by age 50....and 2” by age 67...at age 67 his back was a mess & his posture completely shot! And it looks as if 6’6” John Studd was wearing cowboy boots in the pic with Ron & Kowalski? Peak Kowalski in his prime 25-40 years of age was closer to 6’6” than 6’5”...IMO
Pdoggy said on 1/Oct/18
Click Here

Straight from the horses mouth. Episode 49.
He says he is a good 6'9 and Andre was 7 foot something.
JT said on 1/Oct/18
Ron Fuller did not look any taller next to ~ 6’5” Barry Windham than did Sid Eudy so maybe 6’7” for Fuller (listed as 6’8” at University of Miami for basketball). Click Here Robert Fuller looked a little shorter than Rick Rude so he may be around 6'2".

Click Here We can’t see Fuller’s footwear and we can’t tell if Andre is on his tippy toes so there’s no point in speculating about Andre’s height from this pic. Fuller’s also a little farther from the camera unless a witch doctor shrunk his head.
RP said on 1/Oct/18
Sotiris,
Ron’s true height was said to be 6’7” by people in the know. His 6’8” & 6’9” listings were just random wrestling Billings. And if people close to him say his real height was 6’7” ?? Then, we can’t rule out even 6’6.75” to 6’6.5” as an accurate true barefoot measurement. I’ve heard that Robert was really 6’4”? But, you’re right...he looks more 6’3” & change in those pics. I guess we can’t rule out that at some point in his life he did measure 6’4”? I’ll comptomise & call Him 6’3.5” & Ron 6’7” (max) Ron’s cowboy boots would’ve gave him something like a 0.875” to 1” footwear advantage over Andre’s wrestling boots. So?...I think we can safely say that peak Andre was 4.75” to 5” taller than Ron Fuller.
Sotiris Gravas said on 30/Sep/18
@Gretz Here's Gretzky w/ around 6'4" Mario Lemieux... Click Here

W/ around 6'4.5" Michael Jordan... Click Here , Click Here ,
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W/ around 6'4.5" Charles Barkley... Click Here
JT said on 30/Sep/18
Click Here Same hallway at least...

Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Sep/18
How tall was Killer Kowalski (billed as 6'7")?....

Maybe 6’5” peak (billed at 6’7”). Kowalski was shorter than John Studd when they tag-teamed in the mid-1970s but he was around 50 years old at the time and could have lost some height by then. at around the 1:55 mark, Vince refers to both Studd and Kowalski as 6’6”-6’7” and near 300 lbs. Click Here

Here’s Kowalski (age 67) with Studd and ~7’1” Ron Reis from 1993 Click Here

Gretz, Don Leo Jonathan was referred to as 6’5” at age 22. Click Here
tree said on 30/Sep/18
Even a 6'8 hogan would make andre under 7ft4
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Sep/18
We've all seen the pic of Andre and Ron Fuller; here it is again... Click Here But how tall was Ron Fuller... really?

Here's Robert Fuller w/ Bob Armstrong (billed as 5'11")... Click Here
Click Here I think Robert Fuller was more 6'3", not his billed 6'5".

Here's Robert Fuller w/ Jimmy Golden (billed as 6'5")... Click Here , Click Here Golden is definitely taller.

Robert Fuller w/ Stone Cold, not looking very tall... Click Here


And finally, here's Robert Fuller (in cowboy boots... heel size?) w/ Ron Fuller:
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So, how tall was Robert Fuller ... and Ron Fuller... and Andre...?
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/Sep/18
Sorry, I already posted this pic of Andre w/ 6'5" David Von Erich, but I just noticed this... Is Andre tiptoeing here..? Click Here

Compare flat foot w/ not-so-flat... Click Here

Even Big Show is doing it here, but it's very subtle; blink and you'll miss it: Click Here Kidding.
Gretz said on 29/Sep/18
Gravis,sometimes we would use pucks the orange ones weighted with 30 b`bs and in the winter that really hurt really.What is your opinion on chara`s height he looks every bit of 6'9'to me.And before we forget this is an Andre page,What`s your opinion on his height too.Out of bed maybe around 7'0.50" by the night match 6.11'75" guess well never really know.All i know is all the guys we listed at 6'8"-6'10" he is taller than all of them.
Gretz said on 29/Sep/18
Man I can`t find who posted the pic earlier who showed Don Leo Johnathan 6'6" inch with 2.5 inch heels on.But it is close to the the pic with Andre and the 6'8" security gaurd,he looks 7'0" in both those pics.And D.L.J may have been a small fraction over this mark.I am not trying to say Andre was over 7'1' by any means just that he was 7'0" and a tad at his peak.
Pdoggy said on 29/Sep/18
@RP I remember Bruno going off script with Hogan as well back in the late 70's he said exactly that. Leave it to Bruno to keep it real.
RP said on 29/Sep/18
@ Sotiris! LMAO! Amen!
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 29/Sep/18
@tree

Also, the same people who think Andre was 7'4", probably also think that Hogan was at least 6'8" and The Rock at least 6'5".
Gretz said on 29/Sep/18
tree don`t get fooled you are into heights the general population dosen`t know or care about Andres height.They see Hogan billed at 6'8" at WM3.And they see Andre a lot taller not 8 inches taller and they don`t even think about it.Therefore Andre is 7'4" to them,90+% of people are going to think that even 20 years from now!
Pdoggy said on 29/Sep/18
What's funny about so many posters on this site is that we are to believe what they say about people's height but not what the actual people say about their own height.for example one might say they are 6 foot 5 and we need to believe it but if the celebrity says they're 6 5 and they're a liar. Ernie Ladd doesn't say he is a shade under 6 10 he says 6 9. Furthermore why would the article say a shade under 6 10 why wouldn't they just say 6 10 if they were going to be exaggerating his height anyway.
Sotiris Gravas said on 28/Sep/18
@RP To borrow a line from Star Trek: "Live long and prosper, my friend." (I just feel bad for the folks that have to eventually lift my heavy casket after I shuffle off this mortal coil.)


@Gretz Thanks, dude; you're A-OK in my book; long live hockey! (I remember getting slapshots in the eye w/ those orange rubber balls. The worst was during winter... damn that hurt!)
RP said on 28/Sep/18
Sotiris,
Kowalksi,
Was 6’6” in his prime according to an old interview with Bruno Sammartino way back in the mid 1990’s. Bruno was reflecting on the history of wrestling & it’s great champions & it’s giants & big men at that moment of the interview. Bruno was always pretty honest about heights & sizes. In that same interview he referred to himself as a little over 5’10” & any where from 245 to 265 lbs during his prime....he said Hulk Hogan was about 6’6” in ring gear and was once well over 300 lbs with 22” inch arms, but Wayne’s were Bigger and that Hogan was now a lot smaller, like I said this interview was right after a graduated HS (1994-1995) time frame...maybe even 1996? I’m going to research & try & find it later today. Also, in saying Wayne he was referring to Superstar Billy Graham. Bruno also was doing the mic work on Hulk Hogan’s 1st match in the WWF back around 1978 or 1979. And he went off script and said Hogan was 6’5” or 6’6” & I think he said 305 or 310 lbs? When at the time the WWF & Vince SR we’re billing him @ 6’8” & 320-325 lbs. he talked a lot about Andre too. Said he never really knew Andre’s true height because Hs never saw him actually measured...only weighed ...said the heaviest Andre ever was when they would tag team & wrestle was 450-455 lbs...but, Andre would often be as low as 400-420 & was quick as a cat at that weight. He said Andre hit 500 lbs in the early 1980’s. He later mentioned again that Andre was “right at” 7’0” ...but, he never knew exactly how tall he was. He also referred to The Undetaker as a 6 foot 7 & 300 pound man...once again...this was the mid 1990’s. Oh, and on Gorilla Monsoon...Bruno said he was 6’4”...6’5” & 400 lbs.
Gretz said on 27/Sep/18
big Tuzac i always thought was 6'7",the thing is we start talking about so many other peoples height I do it too.I think we sometimes lose sight of the fact we are trying to figure out how tall andre is,and then we get into different years and Andre`s height was variable to me depending on the time or decade whatever getting a true peak height on him is not easy,and that is not even counting the foot ware issue or weather his head is tilted down and the angle of the pics.He towers over a peak hogan in 1984 when he is pouring champagne over his head,and he has his thin souled boots on so give hogan a litle extra boost there.
tree said on 27/Sep/18
Some people think Trump is 6ft3 so..in the same bucket as Andres 7ft4..
What kind of hopes this planet has when there are so many sheeps.
tree said on 27/Sep/18
98 precent?I dont think there are so many more and more people know he was far from it.
I can't imagine how dumb u have to be to belave he was 7ft4,and those people after seeing him with Wilt still think he was that,well i can't even find words for them.
Some say he lost height or he did not reach full height bla bla bla then when in the earth he was 7ft4??
Answers:I don't know but he had to be cuz WWF sad so..and he was measured at WM3.
And when u say if he was really 7tf4 they would bill him 7ft7,some still think he was that,this guys need a bullet i dont care.

When he claimed at 24 just over 7ft they still insist like he was growing but he had surgeries and did lost it,like Andre is the incredibly shrinking man but growing in the same time,give me a break..many many very stupid people live on this earth lol.
62B said on 27/Sep/18
JT I agree that in that episode of Hunter you couldn't really tell who whos taller, just that they were similar in height.
62B said on 27/Sep/18
Pdoggy said on 26/Sep/18
@Rob
I have a question why are some posters aloud to post pics that have been altered?? For example recently a poster put a pic on here claiming 6'1" however when they did their line graph measurement they came out to be 6'3" even though they stated 6'1" in their post. Possibly an error or they thought we would only look at the 7' tall person as opposed to the 6'3" wink wink person.

Rob if you don't know maybe others here could chime in.

@62b what do you think??
Editor Rob
I didn't click the link to see it, but if others see something off, do comment or call it out.
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I think I know the picture you are referring too. I don't think a person could possibly have all the information they need or the technology to correct camera angles and distances so that people in a picture look the exact heights they are. So these altered photos are really no better than the originals in my opinion. A lot of the pictures being shown lately are just plain awful for judging heights.

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