How tall is Michael Jordan

Michael Jordan's Height

6ft 4 ¾ (194.9 cm)

American Basketball Legend. At age 18 he was being described as 6ft 4, and in the NBA regularly called 6ft 6, a height he himself claimed in 1994 "I'm 6-foot-6". Pat Riley was once quoted saying "Did you know that when Jordan was measured he was only 6-4 and a half, not 6-6 the way he's listed". For the Barcelona Olympics, he was listed as 6ft 4.75.

How tall is Michael Jordan
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Average Guess (228 Votes)
6ft 5.09in (195.8cm)
Canson said on 29/Nov/20
@Vincent: when he’s putting the medal on him, I would say 6’4.5 still.
Vincent Caleb said on 27/Nov/20
Maybe 4.75 is better for Jordan than 4.5. At the time it is a good start. Jordan did hold up well with Obama. I still think Kobe has the edge.
Canson said on 25/Nov/20
@Fried Chicken: Riley may have been talking about a pre draft measurement or a measurement at UNC. Roy Williams mentioned that he was 6’4.5” one year and grew to 6’6” then next. I think in shoes obviously and he didn’t look as if he actually grew that much when he was at UNC. If anything I believe him being 6’4” when he was in his freshman or sophomore year or possibly he was even a hair under and he may have grown to 6’4.5 (afternoon height) by the time he left. I don’t rule out something like 6’4 5/8” but he never looked like he was that close to 6’5 as he measured (6’4.75). That looks like a measurement earlier in the day. He doesn’t give the impression of Tiny Lister, Dan Snow or one of those other guys who actually measures 6’5” in the afternoon
Canson said on 24/Nov/20
@Fried Chicken: I’m not even convinced MJ has lost 1/4”. I think he’s always Been a 6’4.5” guy at the lowest so 6’5.25 out of bed. Maybe he’s a hair over the mark in his prime and a hair under half now or right at it today but he still looks similar to how he did in his prime. But his height is mostly in his legs. Barkley on the other hand may have lost a fraction. Barkley carries more weight and has had hip replacements. Tbh I don’t know what he would measure today. I would say not much taller than me today at 6’4.25 and if he is it’s 194 if not he could be as low as 6’4” flat today. The issue with Barkley is his footwear. He didn’t look anything more than 6’4” with Calais Campbell or with Clark Kellogg. Campbell measured 6’7.75 early morning and he’s easily (at least) 3” shorter and Kellogg has 3” on him. Then with Jonathan Ogden people used that in the past to prove Barkley was 6’6” here but Ogden isn’t 6’9” like he’s listed. His combine measurement was a flat 6’8” and that was likely a morning measurement. More 6’7.5” too. But Barkley with Ogden may have been 194 range still
FriedChicken said on 23/Nov/20
If he's lost anything i doubt it's really much notable. Maybe 1/4. He's holding up well in age compared to Barkley who most likely lost 3/8.
James B 172c, said on 22/Nov/20
Rob Jordan is in his late 50s

Maybe he has lost a cm and was the full 6’5 in his 20s?
Editor Rob
6ft 4.75 was the figure submitted to the Olympics in 1992. Unless he was undermeasured, then he came in at 6ft 4.75 in late 20's.
Canson said on 22/Nov/20
Here is Gervin with Jordan. I firmly believe 6’4.5 barefoot but 6’4.75 would be more of a measurement 2 or 3 hours after waking

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Canson said on 22/Nov/20
@Fried Chicken: I still am of the same opinion of Vincent and Recapa: but yea shoe height and then some (maybe 1/4”).

But I do want to note. George Gervin was always listed 6’7” when he played although he has claimed 6’8. Fast forward to 5:40 and he is obviously 6’7” next to Magic. He isn’t taller than Magic.

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Then Gervin with Jordan. To note, Gervin called MJ 6’4/6’5 just like Reggie Miller and Patrick Ewing
FriedChicken said on 21/Nov/20
Him calling Jordan 6'6" was probably giving him a shoe height as well. I doubt Barkley's height perception is that off as there was very little between them.
FriedChicken said on 21/Nov/20
Yes Barkley said that Jordan is taller so he needs a revision. I also think Barkley needs a peak and current he isn't as tall as before as shown with Kelogg. Though I'm not sure how he realized a 1/8 difference in person. Maybe he saw Michael Jordans measurment and saw .75 and his own measurment was somewhere in the 6'4.65 - 68 ish.
Tunman said on 21/Nov/20
@Canson
Yeah,out of him and Kobe he could be the shorter one although Kobe's head is certainly helping that illusion.While I can see a chance for 194,5cm I have to agree with Friedchicken that Riley was likely referring to that 6'4.75 measurement,just to imply that Jordan was measured under 6'5 which is indeed the case,I mean except from Riley's words we don't have any other mention that he was measured at 6'4.5(which doesn't mean he can't be 6'4.5 or 6'4 5/8).Ultimately I feel he could have been very similar to someone like Barkley,whether a few mms over or under is a mystery that we may never solve.
Jtm said on 21/Nov/20
still not buying kobe was under 6'5
Canson said on 21/Nov/20
I have to hand it to Rob (even though he doesn’t need a compliment but deserves it, being he’s as good as he is), He predicted in November that he would have a listing from the Olympics for him. Now Barkley needs the downgrade to 4 5/8”
Canson said on 21/Nov/20
@Fried Chicken: it’s possible
FriedChicken said on 20/Nov/20
The Pat Riley quote could be talking about his 6'4.75 measurement. I've been rounded down to 5'10 1/2 multiple times at 5'10.75
recapa said on 20/Nov/20
oh so he,s been downgraded nice .6ft4.75 is a good beginning since he measured that tall but i,m still convinced that kobe was slightly taller : 6ft4.75 kobe,6ft4.5 jordan,6ft4 5/8 barkley.
Canson said on 20/Nov/20
@Vincent, Tunman, and Duhon: the reason I’ve always said 6’4.5 (aside from the Kobe pics) is based on how he looks relative to Larry Bird and to others when they meet him. A guy that measures as high as 6’4.75 would almost always get guessed at 6’5 or 6’6 whereas a lot of people have met Jordan and said he looked 6’4ish whereas some say 6’5ish. Of course some say 6’6” too but a 6’4.75 guy at an afternoon height would be close to or right at 6’5 for most of or all of the day. But this listing is a good first step
Canson said on 20/Nov/20
@Tunman: I think all things considered this one is ok. It’s not an early morning at least even if he comes down further. As for Melo, that’s pretty close. If he’s less it’s probably not much more than maybe 1/8” if even that. I actually buy his being a low. For Jordan, this is probably a fair compromise being he never measured 6’5 and only has the 3 I mentioned. I still believe he falls to 6’4.5 but that would be at an afternoon height meaning 6’5.25 out of bed. If lunch that would equate to 6’4 5/8 so that’s 1/8” more if the case. Unless Rob has a specific 6’4.5 measurement on record he wouldn’t go lower than this.
Vincent Caleb said on 20/Nov/20
There are a couple pictures of Kobe and Jordan in those suits, and in all of them they either look the same or Kobe edged him. Still think Jordan needs another downgrade
Tunman said on 20/Nov/20
Yeah 6'4.75 made sense indeed.
@Canson
While 6'4.5 isn't impossible I feel we have with Jordan a case where a guy was measured at his lowest,anyways clearly not in the morning,much like Carmelo Anthony whose listing here seems undisputable.At least it confirms what we long suspected,that he was measured just under 6'5.The question is:did Riley want to round Jordan's measurement down to 6'4.5 or was he truly measured at that mark?Idk,I feel the current mark is just the best compromise imo.
Duhon said on 19/Nov/20
@Vincent Again using the picture you posted, if Kobe has any edge in height at all which can't actually be seen, its from the maybe mm difference in Kobe's close cropped hair vs Jordan's totally bald head. Click Here
Canson said on 19/Nov/20
@Vincent: agreed! While I can see that measurement not quite being an afternoon height, it’s far better than 6’5”. The most I could conceivably see is 6’4 5/8 being his afternoon low but I think 6’4.5”. What’s odd is Barkley saying standing next to him he is taller lol. There are times when Jordan actually looks taller though but other times Barkley looks taller. IMHO with Kobe, I was able to see about 1/2” or maybe 1cm in the oic he had with Barkley but that’s likely Barkley after some height loss.
Realist said on 18/Nov/20
Neo is 5'7.5 lol Jordan is 6'4.8 towering him
Vincent Caleb said on 18/Nov/20
@Duhon:
If you look close enough at the picture MJ is getting edged dude. Also , you picked a different angle than my pic that was benefiting Jordan a little more than in mine. Go back to my picture and get a ruler, put it flat over your screen and you will see. C’mon man, it is pretty clear who had the edge. Also, no offense, but the second picture you got was just not very good. It was from a really low angle and looked a little closer to the left so it would be supporting Jordan more, while Kobe had bad posture and Jordan had good posture. The pic I posted they had a clearly good camera angle, no footwear differences, and pretty identical posture. Most pics from the court are not great for height comparisons. Anybody can post a bad picture and use it as evidence. See look-
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Is Lebron really 6’11” and KD only 6’9” flat?
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Is Kobe 6’6” and Jordan 6’4”?
Now let’s look back at the original pic I posted-
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Kobe is taller in that here is another one-
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Kobe is taller there also, but just barely.
In conclusion, there is quite enough evidence out there that points to Kobe being the taller of the two, but it really depends on which pictures you look at, and which pictures you WANT to look at. I am sure there are pictures you can find out there of MJ edging out 6’6” dudes, just like there is a pic of Yao edging out a 7’7” dude. Try to find the best pictures and evidence, and you will see who is the taller of the two.
FriedChicken said on 18/Nov/20
I guess the 6'4.88 Barcelona measurment was a rumor all along and he was actually measured 1/8 shorter at 6'4.75.

This is a great listing in my opinion.
Canson said on 18/Nov/20
Meant to say Kobe looks taller than Jordan imho. But it’s a marginal difference as Kobe can look the same or shorter at times. On balance, I think the 1/4” difference with Kobe being slightly taller is more likely. Rob reducing MJ to 6 4.75” at least corrects part of the problem
Vincent Caleb said on 18/Nov/20
@Canson:
I am loving this downgrade. I don’t think we are going to get 6’4.5”, but this is still very good. I’m glad Rob removed the quarter.
Canson said on 18/Nov/20
Editor Rob says

I mentioned it just over halfway through my video.

What was always interesting was that articles like NY Times mentioned Jordan was 6ft 4 for the Olympics...but they forgot to mention the fraction.

A journalist described how the media at 92 Olympics could look up the database with all the athlete information. So the guy mentions he looks up Jordan and his height is 6ft 4 and 3/4.

It's just a shame the journalist never mentioned any other heights stored!
Because this seems like an actual measurement by the team for their Roster, which was submitted to the Olympics.

therefore listing Jordan at 6ft 4.75 makes sense to me.

But I’ve always saying that all along as far as the 2” reduction not being accurate but Barkley’s being accurate at 6’4 5/8. I don’t think he and Jordan were 6’4 but I thought 6’4.5 to 6’5”. While 6’4.75 is more believable for him, I still don’t see it as a normal low for him. I see him measuring around 6’4.5 in the afternoon
Canson said on 18/Nov/20
Kobe looks marginally taller than Kobe imho. But Rob has reduced MJ to 6’4.75 so it puts them at the same height now
Canson said on 17/Nov/20
This article says many in the league thought Jordan was considerably closer to 6’4”.

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Duhon said on 17/Nov/20
@Vincent in that specific picture they come out as virtually identical in height see with the line Click Here I've always viewed MJ as having the slight edge in height on Kobe Click Here Jordan had a longer wingspan and bigger hands it would makesense that he'd proportionally be a little bigger than Kobe.
Canson said on 17/Nov/20
@Robbe: it’s hard to tell how much Penny has on Miller being he’s raising his head
Canson said on 17/Nov/20
Canson said on 16/Nov/20
@Vincent: while I could accept the 1/4” downgrade for MJ, I agree and always have that Kobe would be the taller of the two. If 1/4” is all Rob would give for the downgrade, Kobe may need to be upgraded to 6’5 lol. But I’ve seen pics with Caron Butler and Kobe. Butler looks taller imho. I’ve met Butler and I could give him his pre draft listing or worst case maybe 196cm. He looked as good a 6’5 as I’ve seen. Surely not early morning whereas Kobe looks a weak 6’5 by comparison imho. I think if we go with Butler at 6’5.25, Kobe at 6’4.75, MJ would get 6’4.5” also being he measured that when he was drafted according to Pat Riley
Editor Rob
well since Jordan was indeed stored as 6ft 4.75 for the 92 Olympics, it is hard to argue against it...it would make sense then he was 6ft 6 in sneakers.

@Editor Rob: Where did you see the 6’4.75”? That’s believable for a measurement (at some point during the day). Kobe also received a 6’5.25 from FIBA at some point. I would say it’s not a low but I think it’s a lot better than 6’5” being he never measured that at any stage. Only 6’4.5 4.75 and 4 7/8”
Editor Rob
I mentioned it just over halfway through my video.

What was always interesting was that articles like NY Times mentioned Jordan was 6ft 4 for the Olympics...but they forgot to mention the fraction.

A journalist described how the media at 92 Olympics could look up the database with all the athlete information. So the guy mentions he looks up Jordan and his height is 6ft 4 and 3/4.

It's just a shame the journalist never mentioned any other heights stored!
Because this seems like an actual measurement by the team for their Roster, which was submitted to the Olympics.

therefore listing Jordan at 6ft 4.75 makes sense to me.
Robbe said on 17/Nov/20
Penny Hardaway 6'6, Reggie Miller 6'5.75, and Michael Jordan 6'4.75 Click Here
Canson said on 16/Nov/20
@Vincent: while I could accept the 1/4” downgrade for MJ, I agree and always have that Kobe would be the taller of the two. If 1/4” is all Rob would give for the downgrade, Kobe may need to be upgraded to 6’5 lol. But I’ve seen pics with Caron Butler and Kobe. Butler looks taller imho. I’ve met Butler and I could give him his pre draft listing or worst case maybe 196cm. He looked as good a 6’5 as I’ve seen. Surely not early morning whereas Kobe looks a weak 6’5 by comparison imho. I think if we go with Butler at 6’5.25, Kobe at 6’4.75, MJ would get 6’4.5” also being he measured that when he was drafted according to Pat Riley
Editor Rob
well since Jordan was indeed stored as 6ft 4.75 for the 92 Olympics, it is hard to argue against it...it would make sense then he was 6ft 6 in sneakers.
Canson said on 16/Nov/20
@RJT: I think 6’4.75 would be a good start for him
Vincent Caleb said on 16/Nov/20
Kobe always gave a slightly taller impression than Jordan.
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He even edged him by a quarter.
I think it is fair to say that MJ needs a downgrade.
RJT said on 16/Nov/20
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MJ is 6'4.75"
FriedChicken said on 15/Nov/20
I still think he's a guy who'd measure a little under 6'5" like Kobe. Under 6'5" afternoon but close enough to claim it.
Canson said on 15/Nov/20
@Christian: agreed
Canson said on 15/Nov/20
@Leo: yea at UNC he was listed at that height
Leo2001 said on 14/Nov/20
Found this in the "The Last Dance",listed as 6 feet 5 and 189 lbs.

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Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Nov/20
@Lins
Pics taken on gold turf aren't the best, because of the high chances of unlevel ground.
Lins 5'11.25 said on 14/Nov/20
Rob, How tall MJ looks here: Click Here
Editor Rob
not much more than 6ft 4 that moment
Canson said on 13/Nov/20
@Ricky84: look at someone like Caron Butler. 6’5.25 and received a 6’6.5 shoe measurement rounded to 6’7”. However his measurement is one of the ones that looks close to his afternoon height from having seen him in person. He certainly isn’t under 6’5” and my money is on him being over the mark than under being he looked close to an inch taller than me. Then you get someone like Jaylen Brown or DeMar Derozan who were measured the same and listed 6’7” prior to the 19-20 season. Both are now listed 6’6” but both of them are morning measurements. Brown looks max 6’5 and Derozan looks Kobe’s size
Canson said on 13/Nov/20
@Ricky84: shoes plus roundup. They do it in football too with barefoot heights. You get guys who are 6’2 listed 6’3 and 6’3 3/8 listed 6’4”.
Ricky84 said on 12/Nov/20
Why they inflate height so much if steve nash is about 6'1 where did they get the 6'3 from.
Canson said on 11/Nov/20
I’d go 6’2.5 for Payton next to Jordan
Canson said on 11/Nov/20
@Height328: Payton could be right. I would’ve thought 6’2.5 but I saw him on Hanging with Mr Cooper standing in front of Tim Hardaway and that didn’t look 4” to me. Hardaway was a barefoot 5’11 tops. As for Nash could be that or a hair under that 184 range. Agree on Jordan and Wade
Height238 said on 10/Nov/20
Jordan has never looked 6'6 to me, maybe around 6'4.5 is more accurate.
Gary Payton never looked 6'4, closer to 6'2.
Steve Nash never looked 6'3, maybe the 6'1 height on this site is more accurate.
Wade never looked 6'4 to me. Around 6'3 sounds more accurate.
Canson said on 4/Nov/20
@Ricky84: I think he’s 6’5.25 out of bed and 6’4.5 afternoon height. The most I could conceivably argue for his peak is 6’4 5/8” perhaps and 6’5 3/8” out of bed perhaps. I don’t rule out 1/8” more but I just don’t see it. He looks 6’4.5 with Larry Bird too. As for Scottie Pippen, I agree at times but I don’t know if Pippen was a true 6’7” either. Meaning he could’ve been weak. I saw pics of him when he played and he looked over 2” shorter than 6’9” Horace Grant.
Ricky84 said on 3/Nov/20
@Canson Yeah 6'3 for wade seems about Right maybe 1.91 that would make michael a 6'4.5 do you think michael stays at 6'5 most of the day? He only looks 2 inches shorter that 6'7 scottie back in the 90s
Canson said on 3/Nov/20
@Ricky: I don’t think that’s a low for him either. I’d say 6’3”
Ricky84 said on 2/Nov/20
@Canson interesting that wade claims 6'3.25 i thought he would claim something like 6'4 since basketball players add 1 or 2 inches.
Canson said on 31/Oct/20
@Christian: I’ve seen a normal low but never extreme. A guy like Eric Gordon or Russell Westbrook being 6’2 or 6’2.25 would be a normal low imho. They were measured in 2008 and in the afternoon and don’t appear to be morning heights or heights after laying down. Derrick Rose and Kevin Love appear to be a bit lower than they measured but both may have had the benefit of laying down. Love looks 6’7” ish next to Chris Bosh. I’d go 6’7.25-.5 max and even though photoshopped he looks that with Rose and Noah. Another is OJ Mayo. I’m not sure where he fits but I know someone who’s met him and said he’s 6’3 max. He measured 6’3.25” so not sure what is accurate

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Canson said on 31/Oct/20
@Christian: I’ve seen a normal low but never extreme. A guy like Eric Gordon or Russell Westbrook being 6’2 or 6’2.25 would be a normal low imho. They were measured in 2008 and in the afternoon and don’t appear to be morning heights or heights after laying down
Canson said on 31/Oct/20
@Tunman: it’s possible with Barkley’s weight but he wasn’t extremely heavy when he played. Probably 250-265 in his prime. What you said could be true like Christian said. If he were 6’4.75 afternoon his extreme could be 6’4.5 and could’ve been something he reached regularly. However my guess is 6’4 5/8 or 1/2 would be his afternoon and he dipped another 1/4” at an extreme since so many people who’ve met him or played with or against guessed him at 6’4”. I think we can agree at his peak that 6’4” flat was too low but I saw someone else who posted here years ago who said they played against him just in the gym. They claimed 6’5 and that he was 1/2” shorter. As for Ainge, yea I think maximum 6’4” flat in his prime and that Barkley was 1/2”-3/4” taller. Imho 6’4 5/8 for his peak since that was his Olympic measurement. As for Jordan I feel he’d be the same range. I think a legit 6’5 or strong 6’5 really would be Ron Harper. I could buy something like 6’5 to 6’5.5 as he always looked taller than Jordan and looked taller next to Rodman or Pippen

But if the standard here is a lunchtime measurement, I think Barkley’s previous measurement may be sufficient enough being like you said, he claimed that height and if 6’4 5/8 is actually his afternoon height, 6’4.75 would be his lunchtime. I feel 6’4 7/8 is too high and goes against anything anyone else who’s played with him has described him as. He’s typically guessed 6’4-6’5 (Mo Cheeks and Larry Bird and Michael Jordan) and 6’4 by Joe Klein and Moses Malone. He was also said to be 6’5.5 with shoes on before
Lins 5'11.25 said on 31/Oct/20
Ronaldinho(179cm) and MJ: Click Here
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 29/Oct/20
@Tunman
Yeah, 6'4.75" for Barkley is possible if the 6'4 5/8" measurement was an extreme low, like you said. But very rarely (if ever) an athlete officially measure at their extreme low.
Canson said on 29/Oct/20
@Tunman: I wonder if Wade really measured that and if it was really morning. Melo looks around his draft height in person and Bosh looks his in pics. Lebron looks near enough meaning he could be 6’7” flat. Then a guy like Hinrich could look more 6’2.5 and then TJ Ford 5’10 not 5’11”. Some are just off. In Wade’s case I almost wonder if that’s his actual measurement and it was maybe one later in the morning a bit under 6’3.25 rounded up. I saw a pic with Harden and one with Beal and Wade looked smaller. Whereas Beal and Harden were morning measurements (2010) and (2009). It explicitly said it for 09 and 10 I’m assuming they wouldn’t have changed it. I wouldn’t necessarily give Jordan and Wade that at extreme lows but normal lows. I always estimate at afternoon height but not extreme lows. Like Rob for instance is 5’8 1/8” afternoon height. That’s his normal low but not extreme low as he said it’s 5’8” flat but he loses less than average whereas for me 6’4 flat would be mine which equates to 1” from my morning height of 6’5
FriedChicken said on 29/Oct/20
Also remember the orthotics thing, which could add a quarter inch. At least an eighth.
Tunman said on 29/Oct/20
@Canson
Those figures (190,5 and 194,5)are very possible for their extremes imo.Wade was measured 6'3.75 in the morning and claimed 6'3.25 which is quite honest,always a chance for 1/8 less.
@Christian
Barkley was measured at 6'4 5/8.But he certainly won't dip under that.Well in the pic with 6'4 Ainge he looked 3/4"taller than him,so 6'4.75 which is a mark he claimed at least once
Is it possible that
Jordan turns 6'4.75 with extreme low 6'4.5 and Barkley 6'4.75 and extreme low 6'4 5/8?Barkley's heavily built so maybe gets more easily closer to his extreme?Ultimately both could be listed just under 6'5
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 28/Oct/20
@Tunman
6'4.75" for Jordan is definitely possible, but that's the highest I'd argue. Same goes for Barkley.
Canson said on 28/Oct/20
@Ricky84: I would give the difference between Wade and Jordan closer to 4cm. I’d say 194.5 and 190.5
Canson said on 28/Oct/20
@Tunman: interesting comparison. It’s possible for 6’4.75. It could be the case where both guys are strong 6’4.5” meaning they measure 6’4.5-5/8 perhaps at a low or what we call a weak 6’5 here 6’4.5-.75
Canson said on 28/Oct/20
@Ricky84: Wade actually claimed 6’3.25” this year
Tunman said on 28/Oct/20
Well,6'4.75 or 6'4 7/8 is very likely,it's almost a certainty that he was measured just under 6'5 but the question is by how much?
Do we have a Tim Robbins case?Looking near enough to 6'5 and claiming (or at least Riley claimed for him) 6'4.5".He could have been between those 2 marks at 6'4.75.The 6'4 7/8" was maybe an evening measurement with only a further 1/8" left to lose.6'4.5 as an absolute lowest after a long training session?Very possible but that's the lowest arguable.
Ricky84 said on 27/Oct/20
Dwayne wade is 6'3.5 at least so 1.92m so jordan must be atleast 1.95
Canson said on 27/Oct/20
@RJT: Jordan had a footwear advantage on Wade. That doesn’t look a solid 2” to me though. If considering footwear and that (from the behind the scenes video where Wade had flatter shoes) the 1.5” difference looks right
RJT said on 27/Oct/20
@Canson
With 6'3 Wade, Jordan looked to have 2" on him
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Similar posture & shoes I assume for both guys

He's not as low as 6'4.5" imo, MJ is slightly taller than 6'4.5/8" Barkley though I agree MJ could be on weaker side of 6'5 such as 6'4.75" or 7/8
Ricky84 said on 26/Oct/20
I dont think his low has ever been 194 the lowest i go for him is 195. 196-97 out of bed.
FriedChicken said on 23/Oct/20
Yeah 6'4 1/2 is a low not a max.
Canson said on 23/Oct/20
I think 6’4.5 would’ve been his afternoon low not a max. He could’ve been in the 194-195 range and 196 range out of bed
Matt logan said on 21/Oct/20
6'4.5 at most for Michael
Canson said on 18/Oct/20
@Fried Chicken: assuming Ainge is the full 6’4 or was the full 6’4, I could buy a weak 6’5” in that video. I think 6’4.5-.75 range still fits
FriedChicken said on 17/Oct/20
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Here's MJ with 6'4" Danny Ainge.
Canson said on 12/Oct/20
Ellis said on 10/Oct/20
@Rob Paul: What do you mean by, "At least by November we'll have a final answer on what Jordan was truly listed at the Barcelona Olympics." Where did you hear this information? I'm just curious as to why they would release this information so late.
Editor Rob
6ft 4.5, 4.75, 4 7/8ths or 6ft 5.25...I was never sure what it was.

But in 92 the media could look at the olympic database...

I will mention the figure in a future video. Suffice to say it's not 6ft 6. 🧐

@Editor Rob: I’m willing to bet Barkley’s measurement will be 6’4 5/8” which means he was never as tall as he’s listed now in his prime
Hyper said on 12/Oct/20
@Canson

Oh yeah! For sure! I feel Bo 6'5 3/8" is a bedtime height. The more I really look at him, the more I do really see a case for 6'5.5" for the afternoon, at least. I see why you would guess him there, but definitely not 6'5" flat!
Canson said on 11/Oct/20
@Hyper: I would say minimum 2cm maybe 1” peak heights. 6’4.5 for Jordan and 6’5.25-.5 for Bo
Hyper said on 10/Oct/20
@Christian

I definitely have Bo taller than Jordan without question.
Canson said on 10/Oct/20
@Editor Rob: 6’5.25 can be safely ruled out. If anything they would round up to 6’5” like in ‘84. His measurement was somewhere between 6’4-6’5”. I could buy up to 6’4 7/8 because it’s been said but I doubt that’s a low. 6’4.75” afternoon height wouldn’t completely shock me but I would expect 6’4 5/8 or 6’4 1/2”.
Christian 6'5 3/8 said on 10/Oct/20
@Rob
Where did the 6'5.25" come from?
Editor Rob
I should have added a 'whether it was' at the start...because whatever figure it really was, I was never sure on it.
I mean it's definitely not 6ft 5.5-6, let's put it that way.
Ellis said on 10/Oct/20
@Rob Paul: What do you mean by, "At least by November we'll have a final answer on what Jordan was truly listed at the Barcelona Olympics." Where did you hear this information? I'm just curious as to why they would release this information so late.
Editor Rob
6ft 4.5, 4.75, 4 7/8ths or 6ft 5.25...I was never sure what it was.

But in 92 the media could look at the olympic database...

I will mention the figure in a future video. Suffice to say it's not 6ft 6. 🧐
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Oct/20
@Hyper
Probably it's because Bo is actually taller than Jordan.
Canson said on 8/Oct/20
@Editor Rob: correct. I have worn one and that’s what it gave me. But that can make the difference with him appearing 6’6” in a 1.25” shoe as opposed to 6’5.75”. I’ve seen in the past where more people guess him 6’4 and change as opposed to 6’5”. Maybe In flatter footwear and without the orthotic
Editor Rob
He looks too tall to be only a 6ft 4 guy, but never tall enough really (from everything I've seen over the years) to clear 6ft 5
FriedChicken said on 7/Oct/20
They're releasing the 1992 olympics statistics by then?
Canson said on 6/Oct/20
@Editor Rob: id be shocked if he measured a full 6’5” afternoon height. I wouldn’t be shocked with 6’4.75 peak height but I would expect something in the 6’4.5-.7 range. ESP when people say that he has looked a bit under 6’5” or 6’4 and change. A 6’4.75 guy at a low wouldn’t look under 6’5 esp in a thick shoe. And it mentioned orthotics so looking 6’5 isn’t hard then or even in a 1.25” shoe for a 6-4.5 or 6’4.6 range guy
Editor Rob
One of those orthotic slip-ins can give a little 1/4 boost
Hyper said on 6/Oct/20
@Rob

I remember watching the episode. In the opening, Bo bowed down a lot and Jimmy just barely reached Bo’s lower mouth. That was when Bo walked in. I also remember Bo had less footwear than Kimmel. I wish I took a screenshot but darn.

I have to pay to get it but I’m won’t because reasons. Anyways, someone did show the opening and Bo really dwarfed Kimmel. (The difference is similar to how Rob Gronk looked with the host.)
Canson said on 5/Oct/20
@Editor Rob: he was listed at 6’5” in 1984 Olympics. Maybe it was a roundup. But 1992 I’ve never seen a concrete answer as I’ve seen 6’4 7/8 thrown around many times.
Editor Rob
yeah, I think people would be shocked if Jordan was really 6ft 5.5, let alone 6ft 6 barefoot!
Hyper said on 5/Oct/20
Rob, this is weird.

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It might be higher ground but Jordan looks visibly shorter than Bo Burnham.
Editor Rob
Might be downward angle helping Jimmy out a bit.

Check how Lavar Ball looked with Kimmel...at least as tall as how Bo looked, although slight posture change maybe for Bo
Canson said on 4/Oct/20
@Editor Rob: I can rule out the following at his peak: anything 6’5 or over or under 6’4.5”. He would likely have fallen into the 6’4.5-.75” by site standards. I could see 6’4 7/8” being a measurement early in the day and 6’4.75 or 6’4 5/8 as a lunchtime. 6’4.5 or 6’4 5/8 afternoon
Editor Rob
At least by November we'll have a final answer on what Jordan was truly listed at the Barcelona Olympics

Watch this space 🧐
Canson said on 4/Oct/20
@Christian: yea I can see 6’4.5 peak not 6’4
Editor Rob
yeah he's never gonna be measured as low as 6ft 4, neither 6ft 6 barefoot!
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 4/Oct/20
@Canson
Jordan wasn't as low as a flat 6'4" IMO. I'm pretty sure the 6'4" guesses were just rounded down. I've been guessed at just 6'5" sometimes as well, despite being 6'5" and change.
Canson said on 3/Oct/20
@Christian: I wonder now because he’s looked 6’4 to many people too and that was when he played. That’s why I suspect he was middle of the range and maybe looked it to some that were precise or slightly over and looked 6’5 to others but it could be lifts. I still say a best case was something like 194.5 or 194.6 and worst case 194.3 perhaps
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 3/Oct/20
@Canson
True
Canson said on 2/Oct/20
@Christian: there may be some that add 1/4”
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 2/Oct/20
@FriedChicken
Maybe around 1/8". It's not anything that significant.
Canson said on 30/Sep/20
Probably in his 30s
FriedChicken said on 29/Sep/20
What age did he start to need Orthotics? Also how much height do they add?
Canson said on 29/Sep/20
FriedChicken said on 28/Sep/20
You always see most basketball players in their shoe heights 1.25 taller than their barefoot height so i always found 6'4.75 for Jordan quite reasonable. Add 1.25 more and you get bang on 6'6 flat as he was listed throughout his career.

Then you get some like Jimmy Butler that got 1.75” from his alleged measurement. I’d have given Jordan something like 6’5.75” in shoes
FriedChicken said on 28/Sep/20
You always see most basketball players in their shoe heights 1.25 taller than their barefoot height so i always found 6'4.75 for Jordan quite reasonable. Add 1.25 more and you get bang on 6'6 flat as he was listed throughout his career.
Canson said on 25/Sep/20
@Editor Rob: but the constant here is that he’s never measured 6’5”. Always under. Pat Riley said 6’4.5” and George Gervin (I posted that previously) called him 6’4-6’5” as did Reggie Miller and Patrick Ewing did. He also wears an orthotic now

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Canson said on 23/Sep/20
@Editor Rob: you also had him at 6’4.75” at one point I remember. That to me is a decent listing for him. He’s never measured 6’5” let alone over. 6’4 7/8” was the highest I’ve seen and then 6’4.5”. They make mention to 6’4.75” some places too. He’s clearly not taller than Kobe
Editor Rob
6ft 4.75, 5 are figures that are quite arguable.

6ft 4 7/8th is also a figure that's been brought up on here...the issue with that is it came from a forum and was repeated without knowing for sure who reported it originally.
FriedChicken said on 23/Sep/20
Was he ever listed lower than this in the past? If so, what made the upgrade happen?
Editor Rob
He was given a fraction over 6ft 5 at one point, but has sat on 6ft 5 for many years now.
Canson said on 25/Aug/20
He measured 6’4 1/2 and 6’4 7/8 (that may be a morning height) in his prime so I doubt he was ever 6’5 flat. Even if he grew it would’ve been something like 6’4 2/3 max afternoon height in his prime. Looked over 4” shorter than Larry Bird and close to 3” shorter than Magic
6'4'' Guy! said on 22/Aug/20
Rob maybe closer to 6ft4 1⁄2 today?
Editor Rob
Possibly at an age which he could have lost 1/4, but I think still looks closer to 6ft 5 than 4 in recent years.
Canson said on 11/Aug/20
Duhon said on 10/Aug/20
@Canson would you agree MJ has a larger frame than Kobe? We know he had larger hands and I believe a larger wingspan too. His frame seemed fuller than Kobe's as well, when you compared them to their younger years before they got into weight training.

From the height of their head it's very close but I'd give the slight edge to MJ there as well.

I agree Duhon. MJ definitely had the larger frame especially in his later days when he played for the Wizards and even when he played in Chicago. Phil mentioned that once I remember that Jordan had a bigger body. But I have Kobe as slightly taller. It’s not much though. Maybe a small fraction. Especially seeing the video to that picture. But I will say that Kobe could’ve been 195-195.5 possibly and Jordan 194/195 range. So could be something like 6’4 5/8 vs 6’4 7/8 or 6’4.5 vs 6’4.75

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Duhon said on 10/Aug/20
You can see MJ has about .25" over Kobe here along with the noticeably higher shoulders Click Here
Duhon said on 10/Aug/20
@Canson would you agree MJ has a larger frame than Kobe? We know he had larger hands and I believe a larger wingspan too. His frame seemed fuller than Kobe's as well, when you compared them to their younger years before they got into weight training.

From the height of their head it's very close but I'd give the slight edge to MJ there as well.
Canson said on 9/Aug/20
He’s not taller than Kobe was
slim 6'1 said on 8/Aug/20
taller thana kobe, 196cm
Canson said on 3/Aug/20
Let’s just drop the politics altogether as Rob said
FriedChicken said on 3/Aug/20
How did a trivial discussion about the height of Michael Jordan end up in a political argument.
Willes190 said on 1/Aug/20
@Viper: No, as a matter of fact i don’t like, nor do I support Alex Jones and other conspiracy theorists like him. I’m personally very close ideologically to the establishment Republicans like Bush, Cruz and Rubio. I support Israel, legal immigration, internationalism and foreign intervention when needed in order to insure U.S national security and strategic interests. There’s a big difference between the conservative/neoconservative wing within the Republican Party and right-wing populism or the so called alt-right.
viper said on 31/Jul/20
Wiles probably loves Alex Jones lol
Editor Rob
In the UK, most folk when hearing the name Alex Jones will think of This Alex Jones.
Canson said on 31/Jul/20
viper said on 30/Jul/20
Wiles thinks Trump tells it like it is, yet I'm the troll.

Amazing

It is amazing but then again nothing surprises me with him. He appears to be a racist in addition to that id you see the comment about BLM
Willes190 said on 22/Jul/20
@Canson

Calling anybody something derogatory won’t get you anywhere, you’ve already lost the argument – which happens to be about height – by turning to pejoratives and ad-hominem arguments; It seem to be working out great for you however, so by all means do continue along your puerile, but non the less effective path. It’s very cute and all to see you so worked up and blushed, but please stop stalking me like some crazy ex-girlfriend on every CH page will you? I’m here to discuss height, not argue with you about non-height related subjects

P.S – You didn’t address a single height-related criticism.
Canson said on 22/Jul/20
@Viper: The traffic in the Washington DC area is terrible lol
Canson said on 22/Jul/20
viper said on 19/Jul/20
He thinks you're a lefty liberal because you live in Northern Virginia, lol

Northern Virginia is great If you don't mind horrible traffic.

I will say Jordan looks taller in a baseball uniform to me than Giancarlo Stanton who may be 6-4.5

Though Jordan is lankier

@Viper: He’s a disgrace to this website. Lol he calls me a leftist because he supports Trump and because he doesn’t like me as a poster. I estimate below Rob Often and I call him on his bullsh*t about the things he says and his behavior. Most people here simply ignore him. He thinks a person who estimates below Rob is liberal and a person who estimates above is conservative when in reality it would be the opposite.
viper said on 19/Jul/20
He thinks you're a lefty liberal because you live in Northern Virginia, lol

Northern Virginia is great If you don't mind horrible traffic.

I will say Jordan looks taller in a baseball uniform to me than Giancarlo Stanton who may be 6-4.5

Though Jordan is lankier
Willes190 said on 19/Jul/20
@Canson


Let’s keep it to the discussion, It’s tiresome to read your constant deviations and name-calling tactics as soon as someone argues with you. Learn how to engage in a factually based conversion with opposing viewpoints without getting emotional for once.

It really doesn’t matter that other individuals have pinned down Jordan below 6ft5, that’s not something that can be taken at face value. We should always judge someone’s height based on measurements and/or height-comparisons. Jordan himself claimed 6ft6 by the way, why doesn’t your logic apply to his claim?

No one with any knowledge about intelligence would argue that there’s any connection between someone’s mental capacity and knowing whether or not NBA-players are measured with or without shoes, you are talking above your head once again...
Canson said on 19/Jul/20
Jtm said on 16/Jul/20
Gary Payton was supposedly measured 6'2.75 and I would bet that was closer to his morning height.

Yes. Payton is nowhere near 6’4. Payton is shorter than Wade at times and Wade is no more than 6’3”. I don’t believe 6’3.25 for an afternoon height for him when someone I know has met him and said that he didn’t even look a full inch taller than him at 6’2”. You can’t take what Willes is saying seriously. For someone who attacks people when they disagree with him, and says that he’s smarter and had a higher IQ than they do, he sure as hell doesn’t show it when he uses a basketball player’s listed height. Even with Jordan, I could respect someone saying 6’4.75” because he measured 6’4 1/2 and 6’4 7/8 but clearly not “at least 6’5.25”. But this is someone who inflates almost every celeb he comments on and he calls those who estimate below Rob “lefty liberals” like he did me. Again, not reflective of a person with a high IQ as someone who estimates below Rob would be estimating conservatively
Canson said on 17/Jul/20
Willes190 said on 14/Jul/20
@Canson

Proof? Also can you link me pics of Jordan looking below 6ft5?

Look at the top of the page where Pat Riley said Jordan was 6’4.5” in addition he measured 6’4 7/8”. Where is your proof that he is 6’5.25? Or that Payton is 6’4? That’s Payton’s shoe height and as for Dr.J everyone knows that about him. You arrive at those estimates by inflating everyone. Maybe you aren’t aware (surprising being you boast about your IQ to everyone who listens) that NBA players are listed in shoes. They didn’t start measuring barefoot (or so they say) until 2019. Even then not all of them are believeable as Lebron is not 6’8.5”. Hes 6’7”. Jordan has always been a weak 6’5 guy at best. It’s funny that your entire tenure here you admonish or criticize people who estimate below Rob even once criticizing Rob and calling him a downgrader. Yet you take anyone who estimates at or above Rob and think they are always correct? And you called me a lefty liberal 😂? That is about as as asanine and as retarded as you get
Jtm said on 16/Jul/20
Gary Payton was supposedly measured 6'2.75 and I would bet that was closer to his morning height.
Willes190 said on 14/Jul/20
Jordan next to 6ft4 Gary Payton Click Here
Willes190 said on 14/Jul/20
@Canson

Proof? Also can you link me pics of Jordan looking below 6ft5?
Canson said on 13/Jul/20
Willes190 said on 12/Jul/20
Tallest looking 6ft5 person I’ve ever seen... Next to 6ft7 Dr. J. Click Here


The lowest I’d ever argue for Jordan is 6ft5¼.

Dr J wasn’t 6’7”. He was measured at 6’5.5-6’6”
Willes190 said on 12/Jul/20
Tallest looking 6ft5 person I’ve ever seen... Next to 6ft7 Dr. J. Click Here


The lowest I’d ever argue for Jordan is 6ft5¼.
Canson said on 30/Jun/20
He really needs to be downgraded 1/8” minimum being that (6’4 7/8) is the measurement of record although 6’4.5 is also believable. Rob was not listing celebs at 1/8” increments when he first listed Jordan back some 10 or 15 years ago
Canson said on 27/Jun/20
@Fried Chicken: I don’t think it was at the olympics. That was supposedly at UNC when he measured that. But yes 6’4 7/8 would be a better listing for him than 6’5” flat because he has that measurement on record (along with 6’4.5) but doesn’t have a 6’5 measurement anywhere to be found
FriedChicken said on 26/Jun/20
If he was meaaured 6'4.88 at the olympics age 29 wouldn't that be 6'4 7/8 or is it closer to a full 6'5 rounded up?
ana said on 24/Jun/20
still very tall
Alex 6'3.25 said on 26/May/20
He's 194,5 or 195,5 cm at most, he never was a legit 196 cm.
Canson said on 25/May/20
@Viper: it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s a morning measurement for Pippen at say 6’7.1. Carter got the 6’6.75 in the morning too

@Christian: I wonder sometimes who’s taller or who was taller between the two meaning Barkley and Jordan
viper said on 25/May/20
Maryland's Robert Carter looked extremely similar to Pippen physically on the court and he measured 6-6.75

That 6-7.5 Pippen measurement I think was 6-7.25 rounded up
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 24/May/20
@Junior
Maybe, but I can't see Jordan being any taller than him. I could see Kobe (RIP) edging both of them out though.
Canson said on 22/May/20
@California Carpenter: ff to 15:30-16:00 which is where Coach Williams begins talking about Jordan’s measurements.
Canson said on 22/May/20
California Carpenter said on 20/May/20
@Canson, I posted a comment in March and I just noticed your reply.

I give Jordan so little mainly due to his college measurements. When he still had hair in his younger days he looked to be a strong 6' 4.5", not small by any means, but also not very big on a basketball court.

I think you are about dead-on in your guesses for Rodman and Pippen. I would give a prime Pippen a little more than you, I think he may have brushed the 6' 7" mark but 6' 6 7/8" is also a real possibility. Rodman also wouldn't be caught dead without tall heeled shoes, so he's a bit of a wildcard.

I remember after the first or second Night of the Documentary, UNC head coach Roy Williams who was an assistant there at the time Jordan was there said he was 6’4.5 his freshman year and 6’6” now. Now I take that to be that Jordan either grew and was 6’5.5-6’6 range in his shoes yielding 6’4.5-.75 barefoot or even the 6’4 7/8 he got; or that Williams is exaggerating. I can tell he’s definitely not 6’6” especially when Reggie Miller has claimed to be under 6’6” before himself and he has said that Jordan is 6’4/6’5 range. In pics Jordan is at least an inch shorter than him
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 22/May/20
Still think MJ and Barkley were exactly the same height.
California Carpenter said on 20/May/20
@Canson, I posted a comment in March and I just noticed your reply.

I give Jordan so little mainly due to his college measurements. When he still had hair in his younger days he looked to be a strong 6' 4.5", not small by any means, but also not very big on a basketball court.

I think you are about dead-on in your guesses for Rodman and Pippen. I would give a prime Pippen a little more than you, I think he may have brushed the 6' 7" mark but 6' 6 7/8" is also a real possibility. Rodman also wouldn't be caught dead without tall heeled shoes, so he's a bit of a wildcard.
Alex 6'0 said on 19/May/20
Rob well yea a good increase in weight and size. Its been 11 years. I was between 195 and 200 then. Weight gradually increased over the years adding muscles but also adding fat too. I'm 36 now
Editor Rob
yeah, 11 years since I was over there and now age 43.
Alex 6'0 said on 19/May/20
Viper size 11 and you're taller than me too
viper said on 18/May/20
I wear size 11 but I really take 10.5
Nik Ashton said on 18/May/20
It would be great to see a photograph of Michael Jordan and George Hertzberg!
Alex 6'0 said on 16/May/20
Also I'm 6'0 240lbs too. So a pretty big guy in general. Rob remembers me when i was built but ive gotten significantly bigger lol
Editor Rob
That's a fair increase, I am still 155 range, Jenny 140.
Alex 6'0 said on 16/May/20
Tunman, yea i returned to posting a couple weeks ago. No my size 14s my foot is 1/4 from the end. Ive tried on 13s and foot is at way end. 6'0 i should be an 11-12.
Tunman said on 15/May/20
Alex 6'0 said on 13/May/20
I'm 6'0 with a size 14 in most shoes. Thats big foot for my height lol

Hey,it's cool to see you back,or maybe is it me who missed your recent posts?
Anyways,size 14 is indeed very big but are you sure you're not wearing kind of very comfortable size?
I mean I know a guy who's maybe like 0.75-1" smaller than me who claims to wear size 12 but looking at his feet could have sworn they weren't bigger than mine(I wear size 11 which is slightly big for the average man)
Canson said on 14/May/20
@Viper: I could buy Strawberry being more of a 196 range guy at times as opposed to 195.5. Jordan I’ve never imagined (outside of my childhood when I didn’t know better) being anything close to 6’6” barefoot. Lol I wanted to be 6’6” when I was younger but of course knowing what 6’6” really looks like now I wouldn’t want it
Canson said on 14/May/20
@Viper: he looked physically taller too. That’s in addition to being lankier
viper said on 13/May/20
Strawberry was lankier than Jordan though
Alex 6'0 said on 13/May/20
I'm 6'0 with a size 14 in most shoes. Thats big foot for my height lol
Canson said on 13/May/20
@Viper: I wear a 13 at 6’4.25” so Jordan’s isn’t too small for his height as he’s likely not more than 1/4” give or take, taller than me
Canson said on 13/May/20
@Viper: the documentary is the best. I’m sad that this is the final episode this Sunday. MJ’s suits look amazing. I actually disagree as far as his height in a baseball uniform. I get a taller impression (physically) from Darryl Strawberry than I do MJ. Strawberry was a true 6’5” guy maybe even a hair over the mark. I would still put Jordan at 6’4.5 or so. He looked similar to how Matt Ryan looks in appearance in my opinion
viper said on 13/May/20
The NBA listed Adrian Branch at his real height of 6-7. Branch said in an interview he was 6-7.5

At times he seemed to edge Bias
viper said on 13/May/20
What a coincidence you posted that after I mentioned Bias
Canson said on 12/May/20
Here they list Jordan at 6’5” and this is his Junior year when he was likely done growing. If he were really 6’5” plus barefoot, he would be listed 6’6” more than likely. I’m willing to be money that he was 6’4.5” barefoot or maybe 1/8” taller and when he came to North Carolina was under 6’4” barefoot. He likely grew

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viper said on 11/May/20
That Roy Williams comment is funny.

6-7 Len Bias had at least 2 inches, sometimes looked more than 2 playing against Jordan when Jordan was a junior in 1984
viper said on 11/May/20
Canson, maybe it's just me but some of Jordans suits look awesome at least on him lol
viper said on 11/May/20
6-6 is impossible.

6-7 Scottie Pippen had 2 inches on him at least.
viper said on 11/May/20
Jordans size 13 feet are around average for his height.

But they are small in relation to his gigantic hands.

Tells you even hand and feet size do not correlate
viper said on 11/May/20
Jordan really did look a solid 6-5 physically in a baseball uniform.

This documentary is amazing
Canson said on 2/May/20
Obama is not 6’1.5
Matthew Lean said on 2/May/20
Editor Rob if Michael jordan was measured at 6 ft 4 and a half then why did you list him at 6 ft 5?
Editor Rob
Well that's been the big question, did Pat Riley see the measurement.
Mark D. said on 28/Apr/20
That pic Duhon posted showing the difference between Jordan and a 6'1.5" Obama shows a solid 4-5 inch height difference. I'd say 6'6" peak height, and likely still that tall, or no more than 1/4 less.
Canson said on 27/Apr/20
In this pic if Obama is the full 6’1”, Jordan looks 194-195 range. He also looks it when Obama is putting the medal on him. It’s odd that I was listening to iHeart Radio today in the office and heard Colin Cowherd interview Roy Williams and he said Jordan was 6’4.5 freshman year and 6’6 sophomore year. I don’t know if Jordan really grew and they measured him in shoes when he first got there or if he just said it for effect

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Canson said on 27/Apr/20
In this pic if Obama is the full 6’1”, Jordan looks 194-195 range. He also looks it when Obama is putting the medal on him.

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Canson said on 27/Apr/20
@Editor Rob:

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How much height would you say Jordan had on his 5’10” father? Ironically he was listed 5’6” on Wikipedia
Editor Rob
5ft 10 sounds a better estimate than whoever gave him 5ft 6.
Duhon said on 24/Apr/20
I do agree he gave off a 6'6" impression next to Obama who is viewed as tall by many himself Click Here Although I think Jordan is a strong 6'5".
Davidjr said on 17/Apr/20
He is 198cm tall not 195.6cm or 6foot 5inches he is 6foot 6inches because in a video on the White House the Ex President Barack Obama get into his eyes or at the half of his nouse he is a very tall citizen and legendary
Canson said on 15/Apr/20
I’ve been seeing the previews for the documentary that comes out on Sunday. interesting
Canson said on 1/Apr/20
California Carpenter said on 31/Mar/20
I would give Jordan 6' 4 1/2" for sure. He is lanky and long so he looks really tall. I'm regular 6' 3" flat, but lean and I look taller than I am. Jordan has giant hands and a huge head, his feet are small for his height. I was a huge 90's Bulls fan and around Pippen and Rodman, Jordan fits 6' 4 1/2" with an extra 1" from his Nikes. I wonder what Pippen's take on Jordan's height is...

I agree with your estimate of 6’4.5” and prob like 6’5.25” out of bed. But I don’t think Jordan’s head was that big for his size and I’m around the same height at 6’4.25” and my foot size is similar to his. But agreed Looked around 1.5-2” shorter than Rodman and 2 shorter than Pippen. I guessed Pippen around 6’6.5-6’7 (i try to see 6’7 but it’s hard). and Rodman 6’6-6’6.5. Pippen just didn’t look the full thing with a 6’9-6’10 Toni Kukoc or a maximum 6’9” Horace Grant. What were your guesses for those two in person?
California Carpenter said on 31/Mar/20
I would give Jordan 6' 4 1/2" for sure. He is lanky and long so he looks really tall. I'm regular 6' 3" flat, but lean and I look taller than I am. Jordan has giant hands and a huge head, his feet are small for his height. I was a huge 90's Bulls fan and around Pippen and Rodman, Jordan fits 6' 4 1/2" with an extra 1" from his Nikes. I wonder what Pippen's take on Jordan's height is...
Canson said on 29/Mar/20
@Editor Rob: how much difference do you see with Craig Sager who was 6’2?

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Editor Rob
Craig was a bit nearer the camera for portions of it, but there was at least 3 inches I felt.
Jean214 said on 15/Mar/20
6'4.75(195) similiar to Kobe
6'4 5/8 (194.6) Today at 57 years old
Canson said on 18/Dec/19
My bad meant to say Editor Rob and also meant to say he looks slightly shorter than a 6’5 range guy like Harper and with him or with Bird he looks 194-195 too
Canson said on 17/Dec/19
@Editot Rob: He really should be lowered at least 1/4” to 6’4.75 if Kobe is at that. Since he had 6’4 7/8 maybe that’s ok for him but If you see him with Ron Harper or Larry Bird or other 194-195 guys he’s the same size. Maybe 6’4 7/8 is the college measurement since they do measure early morning like I received in the past when I played in college. But he’s Not a full 6’5” guy in the afternoon. I believe the 6’4.5 that he measured as a rookie is his afternoon height or maybe 194.5 at most but 195 is almost accurate if going by lunchtime. He’s likely within 1/2 cm of it after 5 hours of being awake (194.6 around lunch perhaps and 194.3 afternoon or 194.8 and 194.5 afternoon). Seeing him with Damon Wayans he also looked 194-195 range same with 6’9” Larry bird
Canson said on 17/Nov/19
@Dream: yea I have him at 6’4.5”
Dream said on 17/Nov/19
@Canson

He honestly looked way shorter than Chuck Connors, with Larry Bird.
Canson said on 16/Nov/19
He is probably close to 6’5” afternoon height. Meaning 6’4.5”
viper said on 16/Nov/19
Funny thing is that MJ isn't 6-6 in Jordan 1 shoes
Canson said on 3/Nov/19
@JTM: 6’4.75 for Jordan is good but I believe he was always 6’4.5”. As for Kobe I believe he’s fine where he is or could be a small fraction higher but prob not a full 6’5”
Canson said on 3/Nov/19
@Rob: 6’4.75 or 6’4 7/8 for him being he only measured 6’4 7/8 before? Really he did measure 6’4.5 too but if that’s too low the 6’4 7/8 is a more accurate listing if you’re gonna list Barkley that way
Jtm said on 2/Nov/19
Kobe is the one that should be listed 6'5 and Jordan 6'4.5 or at least 6'4.75 that he was listed here before.
Canson said on 1/Nov/19
@Viper: I think maybe a CM or 1/4-1/2”
viper said on 1/Nov/19
I think Kobe may be half an inch taller
Canson said on 26/Oct/19
Looks 6’4.5 with Damon Wayons
Canson said on 21/Oct/19
@Roderick: agreed

@Joe: agreed
Roderick said on 20/Oct/19
6'4.5" IMO seems spot on
joe### said on 15/Oct/19
Canson
maybe carmelo can measure 198.5cm in the afternoon.
Canson said on 15/Oct/19
@Joe: I didn’t think Melo dipped under 198 in person. He looks taller than most guys who are measured around 6’6”. Example Paul Pierce. Pierce I could see 197-197.5 range. Maybe 6’5.75. My guess is 6’5 7/8 could be an extreme low for Melo but 6’6 1/8 is what I could say. Anywhere 6’6-6’6.25. Of course I’m at the mercy of having to trust how long someone has been awake and on their feet
joe### said on 14/Oct/19
Canson
I think Carmelo measures the same as Ali Baba Peak 197.8cm at night and 200cm in the morning.
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 14/Oct/19
@Canson Honestly i would rule out 200cm out of bed and 198cm before bed for Carmelo.
Canson said on 11/Oct/19
@Junior: I don’t rule out 6’6.25 for Melo actually. He could be over by a hair. Maybe 6’6 1/8 is where I would go for him. 6’6 just as possible tho
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 10/Oct/19
Just saying MJ worst lowest could be 6'4 5/8 and i have see him look a solid 4cm taller than D Wade. Wade i can could agree with Canson now he is 6'3 a low which link back to 6'6 Carmelo often look 3" on Wade. Or could say MJ never lost anything yet as he was always 194.5cm a low and Kobe Bryant 195cm a low just like i wonder there is always a fraction between them and i would specifically throw Barkley into 194.75cm worst low just in between MJ and Kobe. Making some sense as Pat Riley mention MJ measure 6'4 1/2 that could be donkey years ago during his drafted year and grow a bit or a fraction over, 1980s drafted players might be measure in the afternoon we wouldn't know that for sure like on the sights of Pat Riley sees MJ as 6'4 1/2 a low but MJ could be close to 6'4 5/8 since he was always bald. Worst MJ could be 6'4 1/2 now but not under it.
Canson said on 5/Oct/19
@Mark D: peoole don’t accept you being 6’4? Is 6’4.5 your afternoon/evening height? I measure 6’4.25 (6’5 out of bed) myself and while some people think I’m taller due to the way I’m built I don’t always have an issue when I say I’m 6’4 which is all I ever claim.
Canson said on 5/Oct/19
If Rodman is 6’6 or 6’6.5 like he claims and like Pippen and Jordan said he is then there is no way Jordan is 6’5.5. Rodman was at least 1.5 if not 2” taller than jordan. Reggie Miller and Patrick Ewing have both said (along with Charles barkley) that Jordan is 6’4-6’5”. He was measured 6’4.5 when he was drafted
Canson said on 5/Oct/19
If Rodman is 6’6 or 6’6.5 like he claims and like Pippen and Jordan said he is then there is no way Jordan is 6’5.5. Reggie Miller and Patrick Ewing have both said (along with Charles barkley) that Jordan is 6’4-6’5”. He was measured 6’4.5 when he was drafted
Mark D. said on 4/Oct/19
Being 6'4.5" and calling myself 6'5" because people wouldn't accept me saying 6'4" to round it off, I can say though I've not met Jordan, in pictures I see of him standing next to various people he looks to be around 6'5.5". In good shape with normal posture so he hasn't lost any now. The 6'6" was a simple rounding up in my opinion.
Canson said on 29/Sep/19
@Tunman: I understand what you’re saying. But when Kobe came into the league Jordan at 33 would’ve still likely been at his peak. I don’t argue the 6’4.75 listing for Kobe being his low and Jordan may have been 6’4 5/8”, but Pat Riley saying He’s 6’4.5” shouldn’t be seen as bitterness. People need to stop thinking just because someone says a person isn’t as tall as they claim or they say that person is shorter than they are, that they’re hating on them. Riley was answering the reporter’s inquiries as to why he wasn’t drafted over Olajuwon and Bowie. And Riley saying someone’s actual height is just him doing that. Riley was known as being very honest during his career. He wasn’t going to lie, either. He wasn’t slighting Jordan and people shouldn’t see it that way being it’s just his height not his character. People assume when someone claims someone’s actual height that they try to make someone shorter when they’re not. And furthermore, I honestly don’t think Riley had a problem with Jordan per se. remember, Pat Riley retired Jordan’s jersey with the Heat which is the grandest of gestures bring Jordan never once played for the franchise. He’s the only person other than the Bulls to do so and Jordan is the only player who never once played for a franchise to have his uniform retired by them. Riley did not hate Jordan all that much as he didnt have to do that. And that was early on. If he really had reason to hate MJ it would’ve been in the 90s when Riley coached the Knicks and Heat. But Riley calling him 6’4.5” was just answering (in an honest manner) why he wasn’t drafted first and he was likely either giving an exact or maybe just approximate measurement. Riley has met him so he could give an assessment as to how tall he was. Next to Larry Bird I tend to believe 6’4.5” and having played ball myself through college that’s common for a guy to be listed 6’6” and be as low as 6’4 or 6’4.25 as the same happened to me. But Jordan being listed 6’4.75 would look much better than 6’5” imho because that could’ve very well been at 5 hours for him and maybe dip to 6’4 5/8 perhaps. 6’4.5 tho or .75 would work imho

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Tunman said on 28/Sep/19
@Canson
6'4.75 for Kobe is fair and so is it for Jordan.I still think a peak Jordan and Kobe could have been reasonably the same.6'4 5/8?Not impossible you can argue that but I'm still convinced he was measured at evening and had only little height to lose so 6'4.75 still makes sense.I would take Riley's words carefully though as he seemed quite bitter towards Jordan,so maybe tried to undermine his height to 6'4.5(although maybe he was a little over?)195 is the best compromise if you ask me.
Canson said on 27/Sep/19
Kobe should not be listed 195 and Jordan 196. They should be the same at 195 or Jordan at 6’4.5” being he also measured that mark. He’s not taller than Kobe
Canson said on 26/Sep/19
@Shane: my money in his prime he was actually 6’4.5 or max 6’4 5/8 (something like 194.5cm). But I agree with you that he’s def under 6’5 afternoon height. I think 6’4.75 is a fair listing for him as it’s clear he’s not taller than Kobe. If anything I think Kobe would actually edge him as he really does look the 6’4.75 afternoon height
Shane Gray said on 26/Sep/19
Jordan is under 6'5" by this sites afternoon barefoot standard and I think that is clear. I'm surprised you haven't adjusted this to 6'4 3/4" max, Rob.
Canson said on 25/Sep/19
@Roderick: lol I know right! That’s the second time I’ve done that with the picture. If you google the two Starks and jordan you’ll see it when They’re face to face on the court. Jordan is about 2.5” taller than Starks which adds up being Starks admitted to 6’2” so MJ 6’4.5 ish. I don’t rule out maybe 194.5 for him but that’s as high as I could give Jordan
Roderick said on 24/Sep/19
@Canson I was about to ask you what you doing bruh LOL
Canson said on 23/Sep/19
@Rob: I don’t know why it did that. The pic that I took was of he and Starks eye to eye on the court but for some reason the link takes you to a computer game
Canson said on 21/Sep/19
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Jordan actually has 6-7 cm on Starks

6’4.5ish vs 6’2”
Editor Rob
🤔 I'm not sure I'd use a computer game to compare heights
Height said on 15/Sep/19
Jordan has between 7 cm to 8 cm on Starks:

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Tunman said on 12/Sep/19
Actually,Christian 6'4.5"is not impossible although you can discuss whether he was this mark or the 6'4 7/8" that did appear too often.Both are reasonable opinions.The whole thing is about how we can interpret Riley's claim in other words did he claim Jordan's exact mark or did he round down a mark like 6'4.75 or 6'4 7/8".Ultimately I'm still convinced that 6'4 7/8"was a true measurement although probably like Barkley it was an evening one so he wouldn't have lost much more than that or maybe 1/8 at most.And Barkley's at 6'4 5/8" is certainly the lowest arguable.I would still leave Jordan at 6'4.75 as the best compromise.It's not completely absurd to think he was exactly the same as Kobe.
Canson said on 23/Aug/19
@Brad: Phil Jackson once said Kobe was slightly taller. I mean they’re very close in height but next to Ron Harper I could see Kobe edging Jordan as Harper always seemed close to an inch taller than jordan on the court
Canson said on 22/Aug/19
@Duhon: an evening measurement would be more legitimate than a morning measurement. Rob has mentioned before that he assumes each person has been awake for 5 hours and that they measure around their low or maybe 1/8” above that mark. I think kobe is probably an afternoon measurement though. I doubt he goes below that by much. He does look more than just a solid 2” shorter than Lebron. I have Lebron pegged as solid 6’7” for site purposes
Canson said on 22/Aug/19
@Duhon: an evening measurement would be more legitimate than a morning measurement. Rob has mentioned before that he assumes each person has been awake for 5 hours and that they measure around their low or maybe 1/8” above that mark. I think kobe is probably an afternoon measurement though. I doubt he goes below that by much
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 22/Aug/19
At the worst I can see Kobe and Jordan being identical, but I still give the edge to Kobe. If by a miracle Jordan's any taller, it's still not more than 1/8" since Jordan measured 6'4 7/8". And that's ignoring the fact that Pat Riley claimed that Jordan was measured 6'4.5" early in his career.
Bradley said on 20/Aug/19
Shoe advantage Kobe. 23 wins by a smidge.
Duhon said on 20/Aug/19
Jordan looks slightly taller than Kobe here Click Here Also we still don't know if Kobe's 6'4.75" measurement by his wife was an evening measurement and could be near or at his low?
Canson said on 20/Aug/19
@Christian: I would still have Kobe maybe 1/4” taller In that picture. Kobe could look a weak 6’5” with Lebron to be honest whereas he looks 6’5” with others. I believe the 6’4.75 or maybe he dropped below by a mm or so. Jordan I would say 6’4.5 tho maybe even a mm under or over
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 19/Aug/19
@Manuel Kobe head is a little further behind.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Aug/19
@Manuel
Here's a photo of them with visible footwear and they look very similar Click Here
Canson said on 18/Aug/19
Jordan is not taller than Kobe. Kobe is taller than Jordan ever so slightly. Phil Jackson even said that Kobe was taller than Jordan was. Jordan was about 6’4.5. Kobe 6’4.75 or slightly more

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Manuel said on 16/Aug/19
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he is definitely taller than kobe
Canson said on 3/Aug/19
@Junior: I also could buy 6’4.75 max 5 hours out of bed so that would be a better start than 6’5” flat. I think 6’4.5 at a low still but there’s always a chance for 6’4 5/8 at a low. 6’4.75 is still much closer to the truth and that was his initial listing here
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 31/Jul/19
Rob, so you did feel the low is 195cm for Jordan?
Editor Rob
Well it wouldn't be too hard to believe 6ft 4 7/8ths as a possible measurement for him.
Canson said on 25/Jul/19
@Rob: that wasn’t my intent the video game. I found a pic of Jordan and Starks on the internet. Jordan looks about 2.5” taller when he’s standing in front of him. That’s not 3” flat
Canson said on 25/Jul/19
@Rob and Malcolm Streer: Riley was 6’2”.

@Rob: as for Jordan and Starks: 2.5” is how it usually looks. He only has around 3-3.5 with Larry Johnson and about 3.5 with Anthony Mason
Canson said on 24/Jul/19
@Rob: how much would you say Jordan has on 6’2” John Starks?

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Editor Rob
I'm not sure about video game heights, but in reality I think they were near 3 inches apart
MalcomStreet said on 23/Jul/19
Hey Rob I think 6ft5 is a good listing for MJ. And Rob out of curiosity how tall do you think Pat Riley is? Hes listed as 6ft 4 but looks more 6ft 2.5 now he was probably 6ft 4 in his youth but 6ft 2.5-2.75 now. So Rob, How tall do you think Pat Riley was in his youth and how tall do you think he is now Rob? And do you think you can add Pat Riley to this Site Rob?
Editor Rob
I am not so familiar with Riley's height, but with Jordan I wouldn't have guessed he was over 6ft 3 really
Canson said on 15/Jul/19
@Junior: Jordan was not 19 when he was drafted. He was 21. He played 3 years in college and was drafted in 84. He was born in 63. Better chance he didn’t grow after as he was an adult
Canson said on 15/Jul/19
@Junior: Jordan is without a doubt over 6’5” peak when he woke up. I would say 6’5-6’5.5 range out of bed. Probably 6’5.25
Canson said on 15/Jul/19
@Junior: I’m not seeing how it’s a myth. 6’4.5 at a low is very possible. And Kobe is not 6’5 flat he’s 6’4.75. Jordan only had Brady by little. 1/2”-3/4”. I don’t rule out a peak 6’4 5/8 for Jordan but 6’4.75 seems too high
Canson said on 15/Jul/19
@Tunman: imho a good listing on the site may be 6’4.75 or 6’4 5/8. Lunchtime height (5 hours out) he may be either of those. Afternoon height would be 1/8” less at 6’4.5 or 6’4 5/8 though. The key factor is that looking close to 6’5” is not hard when you’re wearing 1.25” sneaks and thick shoes all the time. The other is that he did look over 4” shorter than Larry bird and close to 2” less than rodman
Tunman said on 12/Jul/19
Still I think 6'4.75 could fit him better than 6'4.5.He honestly looks too close to 6'5 to be much under it.Pat Riley was certainly not a Jordan fan,but if anything his words suggest that Jordan was indeed measured under 6'5 the question is how much.I mean in that interview he seemed so disgusted so may have tried to undermine him in terms of height by saying 6'4.5(but it could have been anywhere from 6'4.5 to 6'4 7/8).So 6'4.75 could be a good compromise
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 12/Jul/19
Canson, Jordan was drafted at 19. He had a little potential to grow a little taller. 6'5 is at least a morning height. To be fair for Tom Brady and Michael Strahan being 6'4 a low. MJ stay 6'4.75" and Kobe 6'5 the 6'4 1/2 stuff is myth for both of them unless we met them in real.
Canson said on 11/Jul/19
@Junior: only thing is that Barkley measured 6’4 5/8 in 92 and Kobe 6’4.75. Barkley is also guessed 6’4-6’5 or just 6’4 in person when people meet him. As for Jordan he also was supposed to have measured 6’4.5. But for all of these guys the ones we have specific measurements for Kobe and Barkley specifically, it’s not as right to doubt those as being too low versus Wade or someone else being too high. When someone is drafted there is money and their career on the line. Those are the measurements that I would question. I mean look at Shawne Merriman. We have all but debunked that myth. He’s not 6’4 3/8 or even close. There are others too such as kyler Murray. He is not 5’10”. But I would less likely doubt an Olympic measurement when someone has been in the league for 9 years and they already not only know how he performs but they have an idea of how tall the guy is already. They’re essentially being measured for Sh1ts and giggles versus for their standing in the draft and essentially their careers. That is where the frauding would expect to play in (if at all). But it’s also that those guys were measured at lows. Whereas the others were not
Canson said on 10/Jul/19
@Rob and Junior: Jordan measured 6’4.5 when he was drafted. He’s probably a smidgeon shorter than Kobe
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 10/Jul/19
Although Canson point out 6'4 3/8-6'4 1/2 for MJ but that is respectively his estimate. I would still go 6'4.75" a low for Jordan and Barkley and 6'5 a possible chance for Kobe Bryant. Kobe's real height has become some myth to go when the few version came out 6'5(late 90s claimed),6'4,6'4 1/2 and 6'6 by his own words and his wife claim to measured him 6'4.75" and 6'6 with shoes on.
Canson said on 9/Jul/19
@Never: his height wouldn’t matter because he was a guard. He was a big 2 guard in his era as most of them were 6’3-6’4 barefoot whereas he was 6’4-6’5 barefoot. I would say someone like Charles Barkley 6’4.5 or Draymond Green 6’5” or Larry Johnson or Clarence Weatherspoon 6’5 and and a bit were truly undersized
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 9/Jul/19
Rob, i'm curious that were you atually think Jordan is taller than Kobe Bryant and Barkley?
Editor Rob
He might not be, arguably 6ft 4.75 for Jordan is possible too.
Canson said on 8/Jul/19
@Mickie: I have him strong 6’5 out of bed. 6’5.25 maybe 6’5 3/8 and 6’4,5 or 5/8 at a low. He’s probably not over 6’4.5 really. I think Brady is 6’4” flat or at absolute worst if he dips below the mark it’s 6’3 7/8 but not lower on a normal basis
Canson said on 8/Jul/19
@Mickie: I have him strong 6’5 out of bed. 6’5.25 maybe 6’5 3/8 and 6’4,5 or 5/8 at a low. He’s probably not over 6’4.5 really
Never said on 6/Jul/19
If anything, being "only" 6-4.5 makes him even greater!
Mickie said on 4/Jul/19
Brady measured 6'4 3/8", that was probably a fairly early measurement but I think it suggests that anything below 6'3 7/8" - 6'4" at a low is pretty unlikely (unless it was conducted closer to waking up than I suspect). It could even mean more 6'4" - 6'4.25" - it's difficult to say. I have Jordan more like 6'4.5", probably a strong 6'5" in the morning.
Canson said on 2/Jul/19
@Junior: I didn’t mean that Jordan was that low. What I meant was Jordan’s 6’4.5 measurement would be the same as me measuring 6’4.25 meaning based on time of the day. I would have Jordan at his peak as taller than me. Even if my peak were 193.9-194 I still have Jordan 194.3-194.7 range. I doubt Brady is a weak 6’4. He’s a solid 6’4” Jordan weak 6’5 not dipping less than 6’4.5 probably still or maybe 1 mm worst case today at 56
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 2/Jul/19
If you bring down MJ at 6'4.25" then Tom Brady needed to drop 2cm down into 6'3.5" zone no arguement for higher. MJ had him by 2cm. The worst i can only think of 6'4 1/2 for MJ and Brady stay weak 6'4.
Canson said on 17/Jun/19
@Junior: I think 6’4.5 would be equivalent to me measuring 6’4.25 meaning his normal low in his prime. Maybe best case he’s something like 6’4 5/8 peak at a low
Canson said on 16/Jun/19
He was always 6’4.5. 6’5 in the morning. He doesn’t look like he’s lost any height
Spencer Dobkin said on 14/Jun/19
6'5" peak. 6'4.5" today.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 12/Jun/19
Drafted at 6'4.5" which can mean MJ had grow taller up to a 6'5 morning measurement and stable at 6'4.75". Sometime i don't think Kobe is taller nor shorter than MJ. Include Barkley they are all big looking 195cm guy might all fall into 6'4.75" a low.
Canson said on 11/Jun/19
He should at least get 6’4.75 since he’s not taller than Kobe although he did measure 6’4.5 when he was drafted
Canson said on 28/May/19
I agree with Duhon on the difference between them but for afternoon heights I’d knock off 1/2 for my estimates to solid 6’5 and 6’4.5 maybe give or take 1/8” on both. Carter to me genuinely looks a textbook 6’5” more so than Kobe or Jordan tho
Onabill Choudhury said on 27/May/19
His parents are below average height people plus his own brother is only in the 5 ft 8 range so MJ really got lucky with genetics

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