Charles Barkley's Height
6ft 4 ⅞ (195.3 cm)
American former Basketball player. In 2002 a Sports Writer said Barkley was "Officially measured at 6-4 7/8 inches"
I'm 6-4 3/4 [6ft 6] just sounded good coming out of college.
They lie...I’ve been measured at 6-5, 6-4 ¾. But I started in college at 6-6. (2008)
I claimed to be 6-6 when I played, but I'm only 6-5 1/2
What's so startling about the numbers is another number: his height of 6-foot-4....In 10th grade, pudgy and merely 5-foot-10, he failed to make his high school varsity squad...A 6-inch growth spurt his senior year led to a scholarship
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It was in the run-up to the 1992 Olympics that the world finally learned what the cognoscenti had long suspected -- that Charles Barkley was more like 6-4 5/8 than 6-6, and Magic Johnson closer to 6-7 than 6-9.
- Sports Illustrated
[When] Barkley questioned [Tiger] Woods' listed height of 6-foot-2, Woods responded by saying, "every program said you were 6-6. you're no more than 6-4 on a good day."
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Average Guess (157 Votes)
6ft 5.34in (196.4cm)
Space said on 19/Jun/19
Barkley looked 5” inches taller than a weak 6’2” Dwayne Johnson. So either Barkley is 6’7” or the Rock is 6’1” max...
Canson said on 16/Jun/19
@Junior: I have him at 6’3 and Barkley 6’4.5 unless there is footwear advantage. For the record he never claimed 6’4 5/8. He measured that
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 12/Jun/19
@Danimal 5'9 3/4" Barkley had 1.5-1.75" on a current 6'3.5" Seagal. 6'5.25" is max not 6'5.5" and we don't know if Barkley had more shoe advantage than Seagal. There are too many version of height claim from CB himself like 6'4 5/8, 6'4 3/4, 6'5, 6'5.5". For me i can go with 6'5 and i think Seagal is only 6'3.25".
Canson said on 12/Jun/19
@Danimal: I don’t understand why you believe Conan when he says that he was 6’4.5 but you don’t believe a very specific measurement of 6’4 5/8 for Barkley. Conan was never measured officially so if anything he could be claiming his shoes. And Seagal has lost height when he measured with barkley. He was not 6’4”. Rob even guessed him less and he is only about an inch shorter or 3CM less than Barkley. Seems like you pick and choose what you want to believe. Barkley was only about an inch taller than a peak 6’3.5 Conan
Canson said on 12/Jun/19
@Danimal: I don’t understand why you believe Conan when he says that he was 6’4.5 but you don’t believe a very specific measurement of 6’4 5/8. Seagal has lost height when he measured with barkley. He was not 6’4”. Rob even guessed him less and he is only about an inch shorter or 3CM less than Barkley.
Danimal 5'9 3/4"
said on 12/Jun/19
Barkley was at least 6'5.5". He had too much height on Steven Seagal to be only 6'4 5/8" or 6'4 7/8":
Canson said on 2/Jun/19
@Junior: Reggie Miller said he’s 6’5/6’6 before and that Ron Artest was his height. My guess for Miller is 197cm range peak (weak 6’6). He would prob edge MWP out by a hair
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 29/May/19
Reggie Miller must be solid 198cm.
Miiiiiiighty_- said on 23/May/19
For what it's worth, here in France he was always listed at 194cm during his heydays ( 90's )
Canson said on 11/May/19
@Viper: i heard Chris Cooley on his radio show this week I believe say that he hangs out with Barkley and that Barkley is about an inch taller than he is. Cooley always says he’s 6’3” and has even mentioned that the combine adds 1/2” to people’s heights before.
Canson said on 10/May/19
@Sotiris: DDP isn’t standing straight
said on 7/May/19
@Canson Here's an interesting pic of Barkley w/ DDP in their prime... Click Here
DDP and Jake "The Snake" Roberts in their prime... Click Here
Canson said on 2/May/19
@Sotiris: Omar May even be a bit over 6’5” and Lewis no guarantee that was even his low but close enough. I don’t see him below maybe 6’4.5 or 5/8, but that’s exactly what I’ve been saying all along about Barkley. Barkley measured 6’4 5/8 when he played so I don’t understand how he is taller than he measured. Lewis is slightly taller than Barkley is today and while I can’t see Watt’s footwear, Barkley appears to have thick shoes in that pic and still isn’t as tall as Watt (a morning measured 6’5 3/8). It wouldn’t surprise me at all having had hip replacement and being 56 years old and obese if Barkley is only my height today 193-194 and peak 194-195. It’s very silly and foolish on this site why people try to upgrade celebrities. People are seriously saying that he was taller than a peak Hogan? I don’t put a 1970s Hogan under 6’5 yet Barkley has never measured a full 6’5. He’s claimed 6’4.75 6’4.5 and has - 6’4 1/2 and 6’4 5/8 and a supposed 6’4 7/8 which I’ve only seen on this site and not so sure it’s even a real measurement. Numerous people I’ve heard met him say he’s 6’4 or at most 6’4-6’5
said on 1/May/19
Barkley and Lennox Lewis (6'4.75" peak height) in 2016... Click Here
W/ 6'5" Omar Benson Miller... Click Here
W/ 6'5" JJ Watt (and Reggie Miller) in 2015... Click Here
Canson said on 1/May/19
The 6’4 7/8 is no more official than 6’4 5/8 that he measured in 1992. In fact that may be the same measurement with a number (7 instead of 5) that was mistaken. A 6’4 7/8 guy at a low won’t get mistaken for being only 6’4” by other basketball players who are close in height with him that he spends a lot of time around.
said on 20/Apr/19
@Viper: I am still not convinced about the 6’4 7/8 for him. There is no “official measurement for that one”. And yep i am saying it because of all of the excuses that we see on this page about 6’4 5/8 not being official yet he did measure that at the Olympics. He said himself below that he was about 6’4.75 when Chick Hearn says he wasn’t 6’5” so it’s likelier that 6’4 5/8 was the measurement. To my knowledge, Jordan had that measurement at some point (likely at UNC or early morning some other time). Barkley was 6’4 5/8. In his prime he was likely Max 6’4.5 but I’ve seen and heard people who have met him that have said he’s closer to 6’4 so I don’t see anything more than 6’4.5. Now it’s possible he loses an inch throughout the day with his weight etc
viper said on 20/Apr/19
Canson, I thought the Martin twins were 6-6 until I saw they were measured at
6-4.75 last year. That really surprised me.
They look wayyyy taller than Barkley physically.
Canson said on 19/Apr/19
@Viper: I don’t see any reference to 6’4 7/8 other than the magazine article that Rob used. That is not an official measurement and could even be the 6’4 5/8 with a mistake on the fraction. Of course, people argue against the measurement at the Olympics just because the 6’4 7/8 says “Official” on it which is BS and you know it as well just that everyone wants Barkley to be taller than he really is. We both know if a guy is 6’4 7/8 at a low that he would always be guessed 6’5 not 6’4/6’5 like you indicated as well. And to date, the NBA does not measure to the 1/8” (1/8 increments). Barkley states that he is about 6’4 3/4” most places. I do see what you’re saying as they could be different times of the day but I’d be more willing to say that 6’4.75 was his combine or even 6’4 5/8 and he rounded up and that 6’4.5 could even be his low.
said on 18/Apr/19
Rock can look 6-1 a lot.
Rock is 6ft 6 according to This guy
last year...the Rock approves of such an inflated estimate 😆
viper said on 18/Apr/19
Barkley was measured at 6-4 7/8 and
People say he looks 6-4-6-5. Makes perfect sense to me with those 2 measurements
viper said on 18/Apr/19
Think he's 6-4.5
Flair could be barefoot
Johan 185 cm
said on 18/Apr/19Click Here
Anyless than Rob's listing just seems completely unlikely.
Flair is listed at 5'9".
6 inches shorter than Shaq and makes dwayne look small. He sometimes walks/stands funny does this guy wear lifts?
here looks shorter, 7 inches difference. 6'5" on the nose.I won't argue with 7/8s though, noone is seeing that difference Rob :)
Canson said on 17/Apr/19
@Johan: but Stratham was inflated. They wouldn’t deflate an athlete’s measurement. That 6’4 5/8 was very specific barefoot.
@Viper: that’s correct
viper said on 16/Apr/19
Sorry Johan, you're wrong again.
People say he looks 6-4 to 6-5 in person.
Johan 185 cm said on 15/Apr/19
Canson said on 15/Apr/19
@Johan: he was measured 6’4 5/8 at the olympics and according to most people who’ve met him in person he’s 6’4-6’5
Jason Statham was listed at 5'11" during his swimming career. I don't have much respect for their "measurements".
Canson said on 15/Apr/19
@Johan: he was measured 6’4 5/8 at the olympics and according to most people who’ve met him in person he’s 6’4-6’5
Johan 185 cm said on 13/Apr/19
I am starting to believe that Barkley is trolling people with his height claims. I just saw a pic from a few years ago and he was at least 10 inches taller than a 5'9" listed Ric Flair.
Maybe there was some height gained because of a taller photographer but I don't believe that this guy is anywhere near 6'4" flat or even 6'4.5"
More like a big 6'5" guy when standing tall, this is one guy I would love to see get measured.
Canson said on 2/Apr/19
It’s hard to tell just from that clip. When two people are within an inch of each other in a video where they are moving around either guy could appear taller. In some pics Rodman appears to be taller however
said on 1/Apr/19
Looks the same, and sometimes taller than Rodman:
said on 25/Mar/19
Mason looks roughly the same height as Larry Johnson who in person looked 196 range.
Canson said on 25/Mar/19
Mason was described as 6’5-6’6” at several points during his career by commentators and teammates. He also was not as tall as Carmelo Anthony. And to say that he and Rice are exact is hard to do when the difference is around 1/2” or 2cm possibly because There is no good pic of them standing back to back or beside one another. You would have a hard time seeing it otherwise. If we are talking about A 199ish Rice, then Mason being 197 is not unfathomable since something as low as 2cm difference can really go in either guy’s favor unless you have pics of them back to back or a good one of them right next to each other
said on 24/Mar/19
@Height: sorry but did you really just say that 99% of my pics are bad? Go look at your pictures below that you posted on Larry bird’s page and Barkley’s. They’re beyond atrocious and your pic with Smith isn’t far behind. Everything you just said about me is exactly what you do in reality. Nothing I’ve posted is even in the same basement as those pics. You went on to say that Bird was around an inch taller than Grant based on that picture. I critiqued the pic with Smith because it is not a good pic. That’s just telling the truth.
Height said on 23/Mar/19
Talking about garbage: that's about 99% of the pics you use to prove your points.
Mason is the virtually the same height as Glen Rice.
Canson said on 23/Mar/19
@Height: I didn’t mean for my first comment today to come out the way it did. I apologize for my tone
said on 22/Mar/19
@Height: if you judge players at the free throw line like that it does no good. I still remember you used a similar pic with Horace Grant and Larry Bird once to prove Bird was taller. The pic with Smith and Grant is as inconclusive as the one you posted on Bird’s page. Bird looks about 6-7” taller than Grant when they were really about the same height.
Canson said on 22/Mar/19
@Height: I’m not going to bother to comment on the picture because it’s garbage. Nobody can tell who is taller from that. As far as Mason, he is not 6’6.25-.5. He’s at absolute most 6’6 perhaps more like 6’5-6’6” barefoot.
viper said on 22/Mar/19
The Martin twins only measured 6-4.75.
That's shocking to me. They look taller.
Canson said on 22/Mar/19
That’s assuming Kidd is 189-190. He may be 6’2”. Look at Gary Payton to the other end and Payton is taller. As for Mullin and Barkley, they look about the same in that picture when you widen it. Just as Jordan and Mullin do
said on 21/Mar/19
Your way off, Mason is is 6'6.25"-6'6.5" range (pretty much the same as Glen Rice).
Smith is 6'10", see how he edges Horace Grant: Click Here
said on 21/Mar/19
Here’s a picture with 6’5-6’6 Anthony Mason, 6’2” John Starks. Charles Smith is not 6’10” barefoot next to those two.
said on 21/Mar/19
Taller than Mullin: Click Here
Even with Kidd (189cm-190cm)slightly in front of him, Richmond still edges him by at least 3cm: Click Here
Canson said on 20/Mar/19
@Height: Manning is 6’9” range. Maybe he’s a fraction over but 6’9” is what he measured out of college. He was also listed 6’9” at the olympics. Looking at Manning with Barkley, that honestly could look more. I simply went eyebrow level but Manning has his forehead tilted. His head looks longer than average. Seeing them play in a video just now, I put the difference 4.5-5” between them. Manning was not as tall as Kevin Willis and Willis was 6’10” barefoot
Canson said on 20/Mar/19
@Height: Manning is 6’9”. That’s what he measured out of college. Charles Smith is also 6’9” barefoot and 6’10” in shoes
said on 20/Mar/19
Canson, Danny Manning if not a legit 6'10" guy, he's very close to it. He's very similar in height as Charles Smith. Check out videos/photos of him next to the likes Smith o Hot Rod Williams who are legit 6'10" guys.
Canson said on 20/Mar/19
I don’t know for Richmond. Just because it says that he is 6’4” does not mean he is. As Rob has mentioned, height varies throughout the day. So it’s possible Richmond is only 6’3.5 as well. Sprewell and Mullin May have an inch but it could only be half. Or Richmond could’ve been rounded up to 6’4” from that figure. Either way, Barkley’s 6’4 5/8 is more precise and believable. Yes, It’s possible Mullin is the full 6’5” and there is a possibility that Mullin and Jordan are the same height at 6’4.5. But Barkley and Jordan are also the same height as Jordan has also acknowledged before. Maybe they’re 1/8 apart 6’4 5/8 vs 6’4.5 as the measurements suggested, but that’s still the same height because they’re pretty much the same. None of us here, no matter how hard we try, can see 1/8” difference between two people. It’s hard to see anything less than about 1/3” honestly. 1/4” is possible but the pic has to be flawless or the person judging must be right in front of the two standing back to back and it has to be literally clear cut meaning no hair on head barefoot, etc. as for Sprewell, he said in a quote when he played for the Knicks in response to Rick Pitino calling him 6’6” (exaggerating his height after the Knicks beat them in either 98 or 99) “I’m 6’4, I appreciate the extra inches”. He didn’t need them on Sunday as the Knicks came out victorious. Having seen Sprewell next to other players that’s how tall he looks on the court with other knicks such as Houston and LJ when they played. Houston measured 6’4.75 in reality and looks exactly that next to Carmelo Anthony who is close enough to his pre draft measurement in person. Best case 6’6.25 worst solid 6’6”. Houston was taller than Sprewell.
As for Barkley being taller than Mullin, is he really? I don’t know. In the same picture, Magic Johnson who Rob lists 6’7.5 is also 3.5” taller than Barkley. That part of the picture was, of course, not addressed and probably won’t be addressed on this page because it proves that Barkley really only is what people say he is. He measured 6’4 5/8 at some point in the day so he’s not taller than that measurement as it occurred at 29 years old for the Olympics so it was done by a professional. Barkley was also already well on his way to a hall of fame career in 92 having played 8 years in the league so he would not have needed a boost to his stats like players at the pre draft or combine may receive. It’s likely that that is his honest measurement. As Well, people already knew at that point around the league, based on common sense, how tall he actually was barefoot. They knew he wasn’t 6’6” or even 6’5” by then so 6’4 5/8 was not much of a surprise to anyone. The only real argument on Celebheights is was that measurement his low for the day? since this site uses afternoon heights or is supposed to be based on that. As for the pic with Mullin, it could be that those standing further back may have an advantage. if Mullin is shorter than Barkley then He may be shorter. But it also means that Magic is 3.5” taller than Barkley in the same pic so if Rob lists him 6’7.5 then Barkley should be listed no higher than 6’4”. If we want to accept that Mullin is shorter than barkley then we would have to accept that 6’7.5 (if that’s his actual low for the day) Magic Johnson is over 3” taller than Barkley. Or it could be that Mullin is actually taller than Barkley or his height and that Barkley is gaining advantage since Magic’s advantage on him is more pronounced because of all of that. But We can’t just pick and choose and use one scenario out of the pic and dismiss the rest of it that doesn’t help the case we are trying to present
said on 19/Mar/19
Mullin is taller than Jordan, not by much but taller indeed. I am not quite sure about Sprewell's height, or what picture did you look at, but Mullin was always 1 inch taller than 6'4" Mitch Richmond: Click Here
said on 19/Mar/19
@Viper: agreed. the same people make the same type of excuses. It’s always that Barkley downplayed his height for better perception or to make his accomplishments better or that others such as Majerle and Ainge and Joe Klein Chick Hearn Michael Jordan etc have all said that he’s that height range and are “conspiring”. That’s ridiculous. Then of course the pictures always favor Barkley. Hate to say it but the ones where he looks around his height are the better pics because that’s what he actually is.
It’s similar to kevin Durant. Likely is 6’9” or a hair over but is said to be 6’11”. He’s probably not even a full 6’11” in shoes an hour out of bed. Barkley was probably not a solid 6’4” peak but prob 6’4.5ish at a low and rounded down to 6’4”.
6’9” Danny Manning and Barkley that’s over 4” between them. Barkley was likely 6’4.5 peak at a low or at absolute best his Olympic measurement 6’4 5/8 peak which is a valid measurement but the “excuse” is always “that measurement never occurred” lol
Canson said on 19/Mar/19
@Viper: agreed. the same people make the same type of excuses. It’s always that Barkley downplayed his height for better perception or to make his accomplishments better or that others such as Majerle and Ainge and Joe Klein etc have all said that he’s that height range. It’s similar to kevin Durant. Likely is 6’9” or a hair over but is said to be 6’11”. He’s probably not even a full 6’11” in shoes an hour out of bed. Barkley was probably not a solid 6’4” peak but prob 6’4.5ish at a low and rounded down to 6’4”.
Height said on 19/Mar/19
At the beginning of the video, the guy hugging him at his left is Ceballos.
Canson said on 18/Mar/19
Mullin only has 6’4” Latrell Sprewell by around half inch and is around the same size as 6’4.5 Michael Jordan. He could be 6’5” possibly but the pic appears off. Not to mention, look who is standing right behind Barkley. 6’7” range Magic Johnson who also appears Around 3.5” taller than he is. Magic could make Barkley look under 6’4” which we know that he isn’t. If Barkley really is taller than Mullin and Magic is even the height he’s listed here 6’7.5, it means both guys are max 6’4 and a weak 6’4”
Canson said on 18/Mar/19
Mullin only has 6’4” Latrell Sprewell by around half inch and is the same size as 6’4.5 Michael Jordan
Canson said on 18/Mar/19
While I don’t see him next to ceballos at all, He’s def an inch shorter than 196-197 Dan Majerle in the same clip.
viper said on 18/Mar/19
If he was 6-6, why would he get mentioned at 6-4 so much, by people saying he looked it.
Not the people trying to make his stats seem more impressive.
He's certainly shorter than 6-6. Dan Majerle played with him for years and says 6-4-6-5.
said on 17/Mar/19
At the beginning of this video he's basically the same or at worst fractionally shorter than Cedric Ceballos who is 197cm-198cm range: Click Here
said on 15/Mar/19
Slightly taller than 6'5" Mullin: Click Here
Pdoggy said on 15/Mar/19
Canson your points are certainly valid however I disagree. With that pointed head he certainly could be 6'6.
said on 14/Mar/19
@Pdoggy: so you’re saying that because you “believe” Barkley downplayed his height that he’s the one lying about being 6’4.5 yet Harvey is 6’2”? Doesn’t work that way. Someone isn’t going to downplay their height by that much and get away without someone calling them out for all of these years. And Barkley would’ve been listed higher than 6’6” if he were more than 6’5”. Harvey can’t be 6’2” with Snoop Dogg. Even with the angle here, it’s obvious Harvey is looking up at Snoop. Aside from that the video where they stood right next to each other it’s close to 4” difference. Also Rob rarely will underlist a celebrity. And not be 1.5”. If anything Harvey is over-listed today as he may have lost height.
Barkley however says above he measured 6’4 5/8 at the olympics. That’s close enough to 6’4 1/2 and who is to say someone at that size doesn’t lose 1/8” from the time of day they measured and drop to 6’4.5 later in the day.
Pdoggy said on 13/Mar/19
Canson in Barkley's case he is someone who looks more impressive with his feats of rebounding and scoring by downgrading his own height to make his stats appear more unbelievable.
I do agree that if he himself stated he was under 6 foot 5 then we should believe that more so than anything else however he looks more impressive with what he did on the court at a shorter height rather than a taller height we are all obsessed with thinking that people make themselves taller by stating they're such a height rather than looking at the reasons behind why they State their heights to be. Different motivations in this case. Also he was always overweight so he lumbered around a lot he was much thinner in the early 90s when he was able to stand up straight and went to the NBA finals against Jordan.
said on 12/Mar/19
Snoop Dogg with Steve Harvey
Even using Rob’s 6’3.75 listing for Snoop (despite Kobe being over 1” taller than him and Magic close to 4” taller) Snoop still has more than just 1.75” on Steve Harvey. Harvey struggles at 6’0” today. Snoop typically looks 6’3.5 Harvey could be 5’11.5 or 6
Canson said on 12/Mar/19
6’3.5 Snoop Dogg with Steve Harvey
Even using Rob’s 6’3.75 listing for Snoop (despite Kobe being over 1” taller than him and Magic close to 4” taller) Snoop still has more than just 1.75” on Steve Harvey. Harvey struggles at 6’0” today
said on 12/Mar/19
@Pdoggy: But Barkley has also stated before that he’s 6’4.5 and others around the league as well. I don’t see how Harvey’s saying that he is 6’2” carries more weight than Barkley saying his own height especially when he was already measured 6’4 5/8. Not to mention that Harvey doesn’t look anything close to his listing with a 6’3.5 Snoop Dogg. I see what you’re saying in terms of what he said she said but that means that if Rob said to Jensen Ackles that he himself is 5’10.5 that Jensen would have to be 6’2.5 at that stage when he’s clearly not. Rob is 5’8 and Jensen 6’0”.
Pdoggy said on 12/Mar/19
I am stating that Steve Harvey said he was that tall. Like I said Barkley is easily 6'6 there.
Canson said on 10/Mar/19
@Pdoggy: Harvey was peak 6’0.5. Today likely 6’0” max. Maybe 5’11.5 next to Snoop. How is Barkley 6’6?
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 8/Mar/19
Barkley easily had 3" on 6'3 claim Gabrielle Reece. Truth is Barkley is 6'6 with shoes and Reece is probably 6'3 with shoes and barely 6'2. I recall few years ago Reece was on Dr Oz show barefoot in few seconds scene and look an inch taller than Dr Oz with shoes on which he is 6'1 max w shoes. Barkley is not under 195cm with Reece. We don't have to agree 6'4-6'4 1/2 what people think. For me Barkley is still 6'4.75" whether he lose height now is a myth.
Pdoggy said on 6/Mar/19
Now after watching the Family Feud video I posted with Charles and 6'2" Steve Harvey how tall is Charles again?? Easily 6'6.
Canson said on 27/Feb/19
@Viper: he’s probably 6’4” and change peak but you saw how nobody challenged him being listed that low? They know he’s somewhere in the 6’4” range not 6’6” like he was listed. And for Zion, Kenny even said I don’t know if Zion is really 6’7”. Likely the two are Less than an inch apart. I doubt Zion is much more than 6’5” barefoot
viper said on 27/Feb/19
Artis Gilmore is a giant
said on 27/Feb/19
They list Barkley at 6-4 in this video.
Canson said on 21/Feb/19
@Sotiris: that’s not good for determining the difference. I don’t know if Barry is really only 6’4 today nor do I believe he’s shorter than Barkley either. I think a peak Moses Malone was 6’9” or 6’9” range. Malone even called Barkley 6’4 as did Dr J. Of course tho people here use the pic with Dr J and don’t take into account that in a different pic with Dr j and Barkley that Doc was clearly physically taller at his peak than Barkley. Barkley was no higher than his Olympic measurement. Only debate is whether he was less as he measured in that zone more than two times
said on 21/Feb/19
Here's current height 6'4" Rick Barry next to a height-loss Moses Malone (passed away in 2015). Reggie Theus looks to be around 6'4" now (down from 6'5.25") and Artis Gilmore still looks huge (2015): Click Here
Barry and Barkley (2015)... Click Here
Moses Malone and Barkley back in the day... Click Here
Artis Gilmore, Magic, and Barry in 2019... Click Here
Canson said on 14/Feb/19
If Moses is 6’10” then Barkley must be 5-6” shorter. He called Barkley 6’4”.
Height said on 14/Feb/19
@Rising Moses was a legit 6'10"
Canson said on 31/Dec/18
@Pdoggy: he measured 6’4 5/8 barefoot. If he were 6’6” he would be listed 6’7 or 6’8”
Pdoggy said on 30/Dec/18
I know Charles said he was six four and a half in that clip but he probably is until he gets to that point on his head which gives him more like a 6-6. His records are more impressive the shorter he is. Keep that in mind.
said on 22/Dec/18
@Rising: my bad I didn’t post it before
Canson said on 21/Dec/18
@Rising: but you said something very key there. If someone measures 5/8” they can go either way. Barkley did in fact measure 6’4 5/8. And we also don’t know what time of the day that he did. That, presumably is near a low at his peak, but I don’t rule out 6’4 1/2 either. Remember, he claimed 6’4 3/4 at least twice. One in the TNT late night video where EJ references Conan and he compares him to Chuck and also the video with Chick Hearn. He also claimed 6’4 1/2 when he was on the Jason richardson dunk contest video below after Danny Ainge says that J Rich is Barkley’s size. He also has the 5/8” measurement in there. Kenny Smith also called him 6’4.5 in the one video and Viper posted where it says that he was measured 6’4.5. Now I do agree partially with some of what you’re saying in that he can look taller than his listing at times because he does. However, even if 6’4 7/8 was his combine measurement which seems odd because the NBA never lists with 1/8” increments, then 6’4 5/8 is very realistic at a low since the combine is almost never at a low. A 6’4 7/8 combine measurement earlier in the day would yield a 6’4 5/8 measurement at some point later that day so it really isn’t far fetched and is very likely based on those who have met him. As far as those who have commented on his height, people who I know who’ve personally met him or people that have commented on the internet or those who played with or coached him have all said (for the most) that he’s 6’4-6’5. I’ve never heard 6’5+ from anyone in fact. I’ve even heard 6’4” from some so I’m not sure if maybe he gives that off or what but I wouldn’t guess him that low. I have him 6’4-6’5 and likely mid range or a hair above like 5/8 tops. As far as downplay, I think with Jordan that was silly on Barkley’s part to say that because not only does nobody believe he’s that much shorter than Mike but most know Jordan isn’t 6’6” too. There is a possibility Jordan could be a small fraction taller although I think it will vary based on what time of the day each is around the other. Jordan wouldn’t he 6’6” if Barkley is only 6’4 5/8. I would leave the door open for a peak 6’4.5-.75 for MJ but I think the most would be something like 6’4.6 at a low similar to the measurement Barkley got. I know with George Gervin in the video I posted Jordan looks significantly shorter at times but then 2-3 at other times which wherein lies the difference imho. I have Gervin 6’7 and MJ 6’4.5. Gervin went as far as to say that he’s 6’8” and Jordan 6’4-6’5 before as well. The latter I do believe the former I do not and think that was him saying why he would beat Jordan one on one
Rising - 174 cm said on 21/Dec/18
@Canson: As you know, the absolute lowest I'd personally guess Barkley at is that 6'4.75"-6'5" range or what Rob has him so imo, that's too tall to say 6'4" without being misleading. It'd be the same thing as Melo saying 6'7" or Caron Butler saying 6'6" since they're equally far apart from those numbers as say Kobe is from 6'4". If you're at the half inch then I'd say ok, you can go either way. Even if you're at say 5/8" and you really want to claim the lower number then I'll say ok, though if someone claiming an honest height is 5/8" shorter then you'd mention the fraction. You may be right that more have guessed Barkley 6'4"-6'5" than 6'5"+, but then I think a higher percentage who guess the former will remark and comment on it than the latter since Barkley being close to what he's listed wouldn't really be news. Based on the visual evidence I'd still guess 6'5.25"-6'5.5", but I'm not disregarding the anecdotal evidence altogether since that's why I keep open a good possibility of about Rob's listing. Either way, I consider him saying 6'4" downplaying, especially saying it in the same sentence he calls Jordan 6'6". Like I said, we can argue on the definition of downplaying in general, but there's no doubt he downplayed himself compared to Jordan because you and I both agree there's not an inch difference let alone two so claiming Jordan's NBA height or height in shoes at the same time is what I'm mostly talking about whether or not Barkley did or didn't downplay himself in a vacuum.
As for Ray, I agree he looks below 6'5" with Rashard Lewis and there are other times I think he might be just 6'4", but there's quite a few times he looks 6'5". Much more than I realized actually. I mean he didn't look that much shorter than Reggie at his HOF induction either from what I can tell. Ray is one of the strangest NBA heights to me.
Canson said on 18/Dec/18
@Rising: the only time I know of Charles claiming 6’6” was when he was in Phoenix and Danny Ainge was standing nearby and corrected him. He said Barkley was at most 1/2” taller. My definition of weak 6’5 is kinda like 6’4.5-6’5 or 6’4.5-.75. I think once a person is really over maybe 6’4.75 or 6’4.8 maybe that they are close enough to solid. If anything 6’4 7/8-6’5 1/8. I would have Barkley and Jordan really both in the weak 6’5” 6’4.5-.75 at lows peak. Jordan I agree on. I can see the two measuring close but MJ being 6’4.5 at a low meaning 6’5.25 out of bed. If Barkley varies more it’s probably just by another 1/8” or 1/4” I doubt any more than that. Barkley could be 6’5.5 out of bed and 6’4.5 at a low or he could just be 6’5 1/4 and 6’4.5 or 6’5 3/8 and 6’4 5/8. Most who have met Barkley that I’ve seen have said he’s eother 6’4-6’5 or 6’4” and a few 6’5. Then the outliers. One of my contractors that supports us one day told me that Charles Barkley it’s known in Philly is “under 6’4”. That’s taking it far and that’s downplaying it there but don’t believe that saying 6’4” is since he fits In that range even if not flat
I’m not sure about Ray. I would’ve had him as tall as Kobe or Jordan in pics. But see him with others and he looks shorter such as Rashard Lewis. He looks more like 192-193 tops. I would put him at 6’3.75 personally and 6’5” in shoes. The best case imho is 6’4” flat
Rising - 174 cm said on 13/Dec/18
@Canson: I really don't know about Ray anymore. Sometimes I thought about 6'4", but he looked 6'5" with Bosh recently, looked at least as tall as Rip there, didn't look shorter than Michael Redd and towered Denzel in He Got Game. As you know, I have Barkley taller and Jordan and still can't see anything below that 6'4.75"-6'5" range at any time of the day, that's what I mean by weak 6'5". I can't rule it out because there's a good amount of anecdotal evidence pointing to that 6'4.75"-6'5" range, but he still looks a lot more like a solid 6'5" or 6'5.25"-6'5.5" guy to me. I do agree he could lose more considering his weight and knee/black problems. Though some of it is just genetic and height loss varies among all sorts of heights/body types so I suppose all we can do is say all other things being equal, Barkley probably shrinks a bit more in a day than Jordan does. This could also go to explain at least a small part of Barkley's apparently varying height. Jordan did get into weight training in the early 90's so maybe he'd lose a bit more on days he lifted and trained hard. I think anything between 6'4.5"-6'5" is possible for Jordan. I think of him as more a weak 6'5" than strong 6'4", though and 6'6" in basketball shoes. 6'4.5" would be the lowest I could see him measuring. Kobe's claims are sort of different in that you have the 6'4" and 6'5" in sneakers quotes where I think he's only half serious, then you have the 6'5" claim on Leno, which is probably more serious and precise by normal non-NBA standards and then you have the 6'6" and 6'7" where he's probably just repeating his NBA listing as many do. I think he liked the 6'6" because it was the same as Jordan's listing, but he may have measured 6'6" in shoes and then been told he looked like he grew, hence the 6'7" claim/listings, or it may have been the mini fro since the time frame works. His wife's measurement isn't really Kobe's claim since he's never mentioned it as far as I know. Barkley is a little different since we have 6'4", 6'4.5"(?), 6'4.75", 6'5", 6'5.25"(apparently both barefoot and in sneakers at different times), 6'5.5" and 6'5.75"(apparently joking). Kobe has never been precise like that since it's always round numbers and at least two of them matched his NBA listing while I don't know if Barkley has ever claimed 6'6".
Canson said on 11/Dec/18
My estimate for Ray Allen is 192-193 barefoot and 6’5 with b-ball shoes. Around 6’3.75 barefoot but no lower. He’s easily over 6’4 imho when he wakes up
Canson said on 11/Dec/18
@Rising: yea I’ve never had Barkley as low as 6’4” flat but a weak 6’5 is precise for him at his peak imho. A weak 6’5 to me constitutes 6’4.5-.75 range. I’d give the benefit of the doubt at 6’4.5 if it’s a normal low. I have Jordan the same height. Maybe it wasn’t a flat 6’4.5 but somewhere between 4.5-.4.75. 4.5 could be lows on the day for both guys and 6’5.25 out of bed. Although for some reason I could see Barkley losing more than Jordan based on body types so Barkley may wake up taller. Jordan is lanky imho. Long legs. But this is all speculation on my part
Canson said on 10/Dec/18
@Christian: we could see on kobe’s page that he’s claimrd different heights. He claimed 6’5” on Jay leno then 6’6” and 6’7” as Rob pointed out. This is in addition to him claiming 6’4 and 6’5 in sneaks then the official measurement of 6’4.75 and him saying 6’4.5 as well once. That’s not any different from Barkley’s widespread claims
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said on 9/Dec/18
And Billups might not be above 189 cm. Not sure about a flat 6'2" yet, but Ben Wallace could be tough to compare back when he had the afro. Sheed supposedly measured 6'9.75" and he does look that tall, imo. I know Rip had earlier 6'6" listings so we know he's not taller than that and my impression was more in the 6'5" range. I don't know whether he's 6'5" flat or 6'5" and change, but I think he was slightly taller than Kobe as well, but judging by Rip with Ray Allen, he might not be above 6'5" flat: Click Here Click Here
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said on 9/Dec/18
@Christian: I wouldn't call that quote an example of Barkley being honest because at minimum he's downplaying himself compared to Jordan by implying a 2" difference. Granted, I'll concede it's possible for someone to be truthful about someone else's height while lying about their own, but I'll certainly be less confident in their accuracy.
@Canson: Yes, but then I'm guessing more like 4.5" between them than just 4". If Moses was only 6'9" then Barkley as 6'4" range to weak 6'5" works, but as far as I know, Moses never admitted that himself and if he was 6'9" then Dr. J looked under 6'5.5" himself with Moses: Click Here
That's more than 3.5" even before considering the pic looks to be tilted in Dr. J's favor. As for Ainge, I see more than just a half inch difference in that picture. I think he'd be under 6'4" if Barkley is what Rob lists him. The '93 all-star pic is the only pic I've seen for where Barkley and Majerle are side by side equal distance from the camera and I can't see Barkley any shorter there. His eye level is no shorter, neither is the top of his head and his chin is a little higher. Majerle has a significant camera advantage in that recent pic, which is why his head looks abnormally large and why he's almost as tall as Magic. Barkley's chin is actually slightly higher there: Click Here
Majerle does have 6'5" listings during the '88 Olympics, though Sports Reference also has him 6'5.5" for his Olympic profile: Click Here
I haven't seen anything to conclude Majerle is taller than Barkley myself, but if Majerle is 6'5" flat then I can at least see the 6'4.75"-6'5" as more plausible. However, if Majerle was actually 6'5.5" then I'd have to guess Barkley a minimum 6'5" and more likely 6'5.5". Also, Majerle did claim 6'6" regardless of whether he is so if he's only 6'5" then he's adding an inch to his own height. Imo, Campbell looked more than just 3" taller than Barkley in that photo, but he also had a camera advantage. I'll concede I wouldn't guess less than 3" between them from that, but the camera advantage at least leaves some doubt. A similar photo would be the 80's all-star photo of Barkley, Dr. J and Cheeks. Barkley has a camera advantage over Dr. J, but you'd still imagine Barkley taller from just that photo. As for Kleine, I haven't seen a good enough photo of them to judge. This is about all I've seen: Click Here
You wouldn't guess Barkley at only 6'4" or 6'5" "in his heels" as Kleine said from that, but admittedly, that photo isn't good enough to tell us much.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 8/Dec/18
Barkley called Jordan 6'6", but we know for a fact he's not that tall. So there are some who're honest with their own height but inflate others.
said on 8/Dec/18
@Rising: Moses has his head tilted downward so his eyebrows are lower as a result. His knee is also visibly very bent. I’ve seen around 5” with them in video together but he could very well be 6’9” and Barkley 4.5” shorter. As for Barkley and Ainge, Ainge also once said that they were the exact same height and then said that Barkley, while taller isn’t but about half inch taller. Somewhere along the lines of he could be 6’5” but likely about 6’4 1/2” which adds up to his 6’4 5/8 measurement. I’ve seen pics of Majerle being taller than Barkley. I have a hard time seeing a 6’6” Majerle. He was even listed 6’5” at the 1988 Olympics.
As for Barkley, Joe Klein also said he was only 6’4 barefoot and 6’5 in shoes prior to his jersey being retired in Phoenix and with Danny Manning he looks 6’4 range. Same with 6’7.75 combine (6’7 1/4-3/8 max) Calais Campbell. Campbell has a good 3” on him in their pic. I’m wondering if it’s his choice in shoes on a given day because at times Barkley can look shorter or taller
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said on 6/Dec/18
My issue with a lot of those guys calling Barkley 6'4" or even 6'5" max is that it doesn't appear to add up with their own claims.
Barkley and Majerle: Click Here
Barkley and Moses: Click Here
Barkley and Ainge: Click Here
Even Majerle saying Barkley "might be" 6'5", but is probably 6'4" doesn't add up with his own 6'6" claim, imo and Ainge saying Barkley wasn't taller than he was is even tougher for me to buy since Chuck looks more than an inch taller there. Similarly, unless Moses admitted to being 6'9" max or even 6'8" range as opposed to 6'10", I have to take that with a grain of salt. If someone appears to be honest with their own claim then their estimates are more likely to be more reliable, imo.
Canson said on 6/Dec/18
@Rising: for Billups, 189 is the most I could give him. I would really say 188. I’ve heard the same too though that he’s 6’3”. Melo could be in that 198-199 zone. Could be around what he measured even at a low or a solid 6’6” or in between. I’d be very surprised if he’s less than 6’6”. He looks more complete 6’6” than someone like Gronkowski does. He only looks 1.5” maybe 4cm taller than Brady. I compared Chauncey to Ben Wallace. I have Ben as a weak 6’7” only because I’ve heard him say before he’s 6’6/6’7 as well but he’s certainly closer to 6’7 than 6’6”. 6’6.5-6’7 zone. I have Rip 6’5” range. Not sure how high but Rip looked taller than Jordan when they played in Washington. I have Jordan as 6’4.5 at a low but he would be probably 6’5.25 out of bed from my point of view. I could see Rip being maybe 1/2” to 1” taller max. I have Sheed as 6’9.5-6’10 and Tayshawn as 6’8 (give or take). Likely would be under or flat than over. My assessments though are based on an afternoon height at a normal low. The majority of players I met were years ago and I used to consider myself 6’4.5 but now I say 6’4.25 since I only exceed that by maybe 1-2mm some days, others right at it. I wasn’t aware that I varied until I came on this site
Canson said on 6/Dec/18
@Christian: I agree with what you said. He has claimed 6’4, 6’4.5 6’4.75 6’5 etc. he has measurements of 6’4.75 6’4 5/8 6’4 1/2 as viper pointed out and 6’4 7/8. People are quick to dismiss the lower measurements all the time here on this site. Maybe it’s because of how other celebs look next to him but on the court next to someone like Moses or Karl Malone he looks 6’4-6’5. The oddest part is that people will take what a different athlete or celeb says relative to their height (see Blake Griffin’s page) where a poster said that he claimed 6’9” or see Danimal’s posts about Conan “he said he’s 6’4.5”. Those arguments are the ones you really have to question because those celebs aren’t claiming their actual heights whereas Barkley is
Michael 5'10", 178 cm said on 6/Dec/18
Barkley was about Jordan's height, so this is a correct listing. He wasn't 6'6" as listed, more like 6'5".
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Dec/18
What about his 6'5.5" claim? Did he upgrade himself then?
Canson said on 5/Dec/18
@184guy: definitely not a flat 6’4 at his peak but many others called him 6’4 too. Such as Danny Ainge Dan Majerle Joe Klein Moses Malone. But I don’t think they meant flat 6’4 but 6’4 range. 6’4.5 is probably what they were implying. Now with a guy like him rounding down to 6’4” flat is the same as them rounding up a (probably) 6’10.5 in shoes maybe 6’10.75 if he’s really 6’9.5 vs 6’9.25 Kevin Durant to 6’11”
Rising - 174 cm
said on 5/Dec/18
@Canson: Kobe did look taller than Redd, but then again, I trust the accuracy of a professional measurement more than Vanessa doing a measurement at home. With that said, I think they're both close to it. Kobe probably never drops under it while Redd probably does and is 195 cm around noon, imo. I had heard Billups was close to his listing so at one point I figured around 190 cm, but I'd guess maybe 189 cm here with Melo: Click Here
@184guy: Well, that's the point of contention. Personally, I suspect he does often downplay his height for that reason. I can see the argument for Barkley being 6'4.75" because that's what I've seen him claim most often or the 7/8" figure Rob lists him at because there was at least one writer who claimed Barkley measured that, that same figure was in an SI article a few years earlier as well and Barkley's claim he's been measured 6'4.75"-6'5" would fit with him measuring right between that at 6'4 7/8". With that said, he looks taller than a weak or even flat 6'5" to me so I've wondered if he wears orthotics, but imo, that wouldn't make quite enough of a difference to account for how tall he looks. I can call him about 6'5", but imo, he was more likely telling the truth with the 6'5.5" claim or if he really did claim 6'5.25" barefoot in 2007 then maybe more that.
184guy2 said on 5/Dec/18
You need to remember that he likes to downgrade himself , and claimed just 6'4 purposely ( he was a power forward , who generally are well over 6'4 ) , so he was trying to make himself unique .
Canson said on 4/Dec/18
@184guy: it’s tough to say whether orthotics or just thicker footwear. Imho he was 6’4.5ish (maybe 6’4 5/8 like the Olympic measurement) when he played. But Rob has him listed correctly if he’s talking more of a combine measurement because he would measure it early morning. I can say he’s definitely not more than 6’4.5 today if even that.
@Rising: I have Redd as roughly 194cm Max. Kobe appeared taller. That would fit him though if he were measured at an equivalent to a morning height. For Kirk that sounds right tho if it’s 1/4” off. Melo and Lebron are both within maybe 1/4” of theirs maybe half at worst for Lebron but Melo looked a legit 6’6 perhaps somewhere around 198-199. I’ve always wondered about Chauncey. I would’ve said he was 6’2” barefoot.
184guy2 said on 3/Dec/18
Do you think Barkley uses Orthopedics recently ? If yes , I can see a case for 6'4.5 or maybe just under . If not , I'm still think that he would be very near 6'5
Rising - 174 cm
said on 3/Dec/18
Hinrich's measurement was 6'2.75" so close enough. 1/4" is a reasonable margin of error or could be a difference in time of day. I have to look into Ford more if you saw him 5'10". Though he doesn't look much more than 5" shorter than 6'4.75" measured Michael Redd: Click Here Click Here
and looks 5'11"+ with 6'7.5" measured Danny Granger: Click Here
but more 5'10" range with 6'8" Mike Dunleavy. I wish there was a portrait of Porter and Mo Williams like the one with Ford since I take any photos taken during a game with a grain of salt for height comparisons due to the cameras, distance and angles, but Porter looks taller than 6'2" flat here with Redd: Click Here Click Here
and 6'1" Steve Nash: Click Here
6'2" would be the absolute lowest I'd guess Porter at the moment since he was pretty big for his position and very much like the Chauncey Billups of his era.
Canson said on 25/Nov/18
I could be wrong in Ford though. Met Kirk Hinrich the sane weekend and he looked about 189 maybe 6’2.5
Canson said on 25/Nov/18
@Rising: I see only about 1.5” with Mo Williams. And that’s if Mo isn’t a morning measurement himself. TJ Ford looked 5’10 in person as opposed to 5’11
Rising - 174 cm
said on 22/Nov/18
@Canson: I'm not at all convinced Porter is 6'2" flat. He looks 6'2.5" minimum even with a slouch next to 5'11" measured T.J. Ford: Click Here
I wouldn't be surprised if he was 4" taller standing straight since Ford only reaches Porter's eyebrows as it is and if Ford's sneakers were 1.25" s they were at the pre-draft camp then there's a good chance he has a fraction footwear advantage. Porter also has an advantage standing in front of Barkley(albeit less than Majerle's advantage), but if you take Porter's height there at face value, he's also looking taller than 6'3" with Magic. As for the Kobe pic, if anything I see the opposite since the pic I posted is a full pic with footwear visible and if anything, Kobe is standing closer while Magic is leaning more noticeably so I don't see how Magic is favored. While the pic you posted is just their upper bodies, shoes are unknown and it appears to have been taken pretty close and lower. With that said, it's a moot point because the difference between Magic and Kobe is about the same in both pics: Click Here
I more than 2" there, possibly 2.25".
@Christian: Comparing their whole bodies in the frame, I wind up with about 2" difference, but comparing the distance between their heads to a 10" head for Barkley as reference then I get less than that.
Canson said on 22/Nov/18
@Mickie: I’ve said since I came on here in Fall 2015 that he was 6’4 5/8 max. Possibly 6’4.5 People don’t Guess a guy who’s 6’4.75 at his lowest at 6’4 when they meet him. He would look 6’5 especially when he is always in thick footwear like he wears. And you have an inconsistent poster or two here who say “Conan said he’s 6’4.5 so that’s what he is” yet you see Barkley claim 6’4/6’5 yet they say it’s false. You have another poster who told me when comparing Rock to Barkley “quit referring to said measurement because there’s no proof of it”. I’m referring to the 6’4 5/8 he measured at the olympics which is a very valid measurement of him
Canson said on 22/Nov/18
@Christian and Rising: Magic is leaning In toward Barkley. You can see there that his right side is inward. If he stood straighter that difference would be “at least” 2.5”. In that pic it looks about 2 (if we don’t account for the lean). It’s obvious that he would be taller if he weren’t
Jacob said on 21/Nov/18
Hey could you start a series of arm wrestlers heights im interested to see what you would guess for devon larratt's height!
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Christian: Magic isn’t standing completely straight either. I look at the difference with Terry Porter (listed 6’3 but probably max 6’2 if not a touch below) and Barkley and it’s pretty close to how a 6’2 guy would look with a 6’4 and change
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Christian: Magic isn’t standing completely straight either. I like at the difference with Terry Porter (listed 6’3 but probably max 6’2 if not a touch below) and Barkley and it’s pretty close to how a 6’2 guy would look with a 6’4 and change
said on 21/Nov/18
"Barkley, too, faced criticism on both his height and weight, with the NBA Hall-of-Famer measuring 6-foot-4.5 barefoot (he was listed at 6-6 throughout his career) and often weighed well above his listed low weight of 251 pounds." Click Here
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Nov/18
I can see 2.25" in that pic with Barkley and Magic. But 2.5" is a bit too much.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Nov/18
Just more evidence that Barkley measured around 6'4"-6'5".
Canson said on 19/Nov/18
@Viper: problem is that the lower measurements for Barkley are not believed in Celebheights. It’s normal tho given he’s also measured 6’4.75. I can believe him measuring 6’4 7/8 but don’t believe it was an official NBA pre draft or anything. I’ve seen 6’4.75 6’4 7/8 6’4 5/8 and 6’4.5 now. I don’t know where the 6’4 7/8 came from
Canson said on 19/Nov/18
@Viper: exactly. That’s his low which is why people assume he’s taller than he is. He would be over 6’5 out of bed and probably 6’5” at the time they measure in the early AM. Maybe 6’4 7/8 is even that. For the record, this listing isn’t that great either because I’ve never seen the NBA measure in 1/8” increments for the pre draft. At least it’s closer to what he would measure and he would’ve measured this at some stage in his prime but it’s more that most of the others he’s compared to aren’t as tall as listed or that the pictures are dodgy
said on 18/Nov/18
@Rising: Magic is also leaning in that pic with Barkley. But If we look at Porter with Barkley that’s only about 2.5 maybe. I don’t think Barkley is as tall as Kobe and if they’re close I would still have Kobe edging him today by a small fraction.The pic with you posted with Magic and Kobe where Magic is standing gives him an advantage as well which is why he looks over 2” taller. The pic I posted of Magic and kobe is better from the other day. I posted again and that’s roughly in the neighborhood of a 2” difference. But looking at the pic Barkley is 2.5 inches taller than Porter and is shorter than Majerle. He’s also shorter than Magic even with his lean.
said on 18/Nov/18
Barkley, too, faced criticism on both his height and weight, with the NBA Hall-of-Famer measuring 6-foot-4.5 barefoot (he was listed at 6-6 throughout his career) and often weighed well above his listed low weight of 251 pounds.
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said on 17/Nov/18
As for Majerle, as a general rule and not just in this case, I'd caution against concluding a height difference when there is an admitted camera advantage. After all, wouldn't you also think Barkley was taller than Dr. J from this photo? Click Here
Canson said on 17/Nov/18
Barkley isn’t much taller than Terry Porter who is probably 6’2” barefoot at best
Rising - 174 cm
said on 17/Nov/18
@Canson: That's nowhere near a 2.5" difference. More like 2" max: Click Here
Remember, Magic's eye to head is small for a man his size. Here's a full pic of Kobe with Magic leaning noticeably: Click Here
Magic still has more than 2" on Kobe there.
Rising - 174 cm said on 16/Nov/18
@Canson: It's still hard for me to see him any taller from that all-star pic. In fairness, I'm not sure of Majerle's height as I said. I'll have to look for him with players whose heights that aren't debated much. Personally, as far as pics and videos, I have an easier time judging heights off court than on. I watched Suns games a lot in that era, but don't remember how they generally seemed in them.
said on 16/Nov/18
Magic with Kobe
said on 16/Nov/18
Barkley looks max 6’4 1/2 in this pic. Magic is learning a bit. Dan Majerle is taller than barkley as well (even though Majerle is closer to the camera). Barkley may be under 6’4.5 today
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Rising: I can see Thunder Dan as a weak 6’6” or maybe even strong 6’5” (196.5ish). I still have him taller Barkley. I need to see some footage from older Suns games and it may be more conclusive
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Junior: at times maybe an inch. Other times they look the same. I agree probably 6’5” and change and 6’6 and change respectively
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 10/Nov/18
Dan Majerle look no much way taller than Barkley. 6'6 was a shoe height for sure.
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Nov/18
@Canson: Majerle probably isn't standing up to his measured height, but it doesn't look like he'd stretch up taller than Barkley in the all-star pic and Barkley isn't really busting a gut, though I wouldn't deny the possibility he was standing better. I agree Miller is probably taller than Majerle and Majerle could fall into the same range as Moeller.
Canson said on 6/Nov/18
@Rising: I would have to say brown is more convincing as well. He coached him for 6 years and was much closer in height. As for Barkley and Majerle, I would also say that Majerle is likely not 6’6” but more like the size of Ralf Moeller. Majerle in the pic though is not standing completely straight. Majerle doesn’t look as tall as someone like Reggie Miller to me
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said on 5/Nov/18
@Canson: Even though Barkley looks taller in the '93 all-star pic, I'm even saying to begin with I can give them about the same height, but I can't see Majerle an inch taller, much less 1.5"-2". That recent pic seems kind of tilted, imo but more importantly, Majerle seems to have a pretty big camera advantage. Look at how close their chins are: Click Here
That means Majerle is mostly winding up taller in the pic due to his head looking abnormally large. But if you look at the all-star pic again: Click Here
You can see they're close from chin to eyes to top of head. So imo, this is probably more representative. In fairness, I've never really looked into Majerle's height independently so he could even around 6'5" flat like many 2 guards listed 6'6". But I think Dan is much closer to Chuck's height than he implies and not as close to Love's height as he thinks. I have to look into Love's height closer too. But this is why some of these guys are less convincing to me. Not all of them. I'll give you an example of what I mean. Larry Brown's Iverson estimate is a lot more convincing to me than Lebron's even though they basically said the same thing. The reason is it adds up better with Brown's stated height than Lebron's estimate adds up with his own stated or even presumed height. To put it more simply, if the person either seems to be lying about their own height or unaware of it then I'm more likely to take their estimates for others with a grain of salt. It could be that they're all basically right about Barkley, but then I'm still saying they have to be lowered themselves accordingly.
said on 5/Nov/18
@Rising: majerle could be right about Love. As for the difference with barkley, Barkley looks taller in that pic. But there are others where he isn’t as tall. I don’t see him as 6’6” either but maybe 6’5.5 in some pics. He looks like he has him by an inch at times but then they can look the same in other pics. That’s just common for Barkley though as he looks taller with a lot of other celebs.
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said on 4/Nov/18
@Canson: Nice job with all the links although there's a few things that come to mind. I think Nash just means Barkley might be as tall as 6'5.5", but no taller and could be shorter. Croce said he didn't know if it was barefoot or shoes so he really doesn't help either of our cases. I think that's about right myself as I leave open the possibility he's a weak 6'5" who might fall to 6'4.75", but he generally looks more of a solid 6'5" to me, maybe even 6'5.5". In fairness, more of the quotes do put Barkley at 6'5" tops, but we've seen some that have thought Barkley could be what I estimate him as. Majerle doesn't rule out 6'5", he just says probably 6'4". He's not necessarily saying 6'4" flat, but somewhere 6'4"-6'5" range, though if Barkley was only 6'4.75" then Majerle was nowhere near 6'6": Click Here
If anything, Barkley edges Majerle, but I wouldn't argue with them being the same height. I can't see Majerle being 1"-2" taller as he suggests, though. Love was measured 6'7.75" so Majerle may be rounding him down. Either way, I'd bet any amount of money Majerle is more than an inch shorter than Love and Majerle is probably around 6'5" himself. I have seen the Webber photo, but the difference isn't as big as it looks at first glance: Click Here
If Webber is 6'9" as he's supposed to have measured then I'd still say Barkley is at least 6'5" there, probably 6'5.25"-6'5.5". Especially since the photo looks to be tilted against Barkley judging by the background. You can see this even more in the full photo: Click Here
6'9" is probably not Webber's low, though. As for Moses, I posted a good full side by side pic of them recently: Click Here
If Moses was right about Barkley then that would make him only 6'8" range. The quotes are all useful, but a lot of these guys seem to be lying about their own height and I have to take their estimates with a grain of salt. Barkley also measures up surprisingly well to Grant Hill recently: Click Here
As for Jordan, I have him just under 6'5". Probably 6'4.75". I can't rule out 6'4.5" as a low, but he does look surprisingly tall once in a while such as with Obama and Wade. As I've said, I think Barkley is taller and most likely somewhere from 6'5"-6'5.5", but I don't rule out 6'4.75"-6'5", which is basically what I have Kobe. Assuming Vanessa accurately measured Kobe without even a small error then I'd guess 6'4.75" is more his low since he still looks about 6'5" to me and taller with some like Obama. I think Jordan is the shortest of the 3, but only 1/4" shorter than Kobe. Have you met Harper? For some reason, I didn't imagine him 6'5"+ without shoes.
said on 3/Nov/18
@Rising: not sure if you’ve seen this one either. This is with Webber and Mahorn. Webber shows a pre draft 6’9” but has been called 6’8/6’9” by Mo Cheeks before. My guess is that 6’9” may be rounded up or be a morning height and that he’s 6’8.5. Webber looked 6’8 range regularly when he played. Barkley looks 6’4 range with Webber
Canson said on 3/Nov/18
@Rising: Kobe could be around that height honestly. He could be as low as maybe 6’4 5/8 or 2/3 but as high as maybe 6’4 13/16 or so and been rounded down. One thing I agree with is that his claim usually outs others claims as he looks taller than some people that claim 6’5”. My guess is that Jordan would be 6’4.5 at a low or maybe even 194cm and that Kobe is around 195 with Barkley sorta in the middle 194.5 ish. I would have Ron Harper taller than all three of them. He looked 6’5 or a hair over (6’5-6’5.5) barefoot and was listed 6’6” on the roster
said on 3/Nov/18
@Rising: my opinion is that John Nash giving him 6’5.5 max Is Barkley’s height in shoes. That’s what Croce also alluded to. Moses Malone called Barkley 6’4” as well. Malone was prob 6’9” range barefoot. He could look 6’9.5 honestly. I think barkley was referring to his perception of what the shoe gave him in terms of height though. Maybe he assumed a shoe only gave him 1/2”. I think 6’5.5 is accurate for him in some shoes while 6’5 3/4-7/8 is possible in a basketball sneaker. I would say 6’4 1/2-5/8 barefoot. I do agree with everything you said about him as a player! Solid and tough as a rock. That’s also part of my reasoning is that at his position if he were really over 6’5” he wouldn’t have been listed that low. Probably 6’7” as opposed to 6’6”. But I will also say that had he not come out along with the others and mentioned that he was 6’4” range I would likely think he were 6’5” as well just by deduction (shoe height). It’s because of that along with the footage on TV that lead me to believe that he’s what he claims. You’ll also see below Dan Majerle (although he calls himself 6’6”) calls Barkley maybe 6’5 and probably 6’4” once. Majerle also called himself 6’6” when he referred to Kevin Love only being 6’7” which I also believe about Love but probably 6’7” and change (6’7.25, 1/2” under his combine listing). Barkley also calls himself almost 6’5 and 6’4.75 when Chick Hearn says he’s not even 6’5” below. Dan Patrick also chimes in as he’s also seen Barkley in person. Perception to most is that Barkley is only 6’4”
Rising - 174 cm said on 2/Nov/18
@Canson: As I've said before, I don't believe Barkley ever was measured at 6'4 5/8" or measured for the Olympics at any height as far as I know. If I'm wrong, I could believe he's about 6'4.75"-6'5" in his low range and 6'5.25"-6'5.5" sometime within an hour of waking. Ainge said 6'4.5", but he also said Barkley wasn't taller than he was and I can't believe that seeing them side by side for the team photo. Good find, though as that's the first time I've seen Barkley mention a shoe height, but I have a hard time believing he played in half inch shoes and if the poster on page 6 quoted him accurately he said "Barefoot, I'm six five and a quarter." In that same article you have GM John Nash saying ''Maybe 6-5 1/2, tops.'' and that shows some would consider 6'5"-6'5.5" shorter than his 6'6" listing. Pat Croce says Barkley is 6'5.5" in his files, but he unfortunately can't remember if that was with or without shoes. Obviously you'll be inclined to believe the former while I'd believe the latter, though I don't rule out the possibility of 6'4.75" without shoes and 6'5.5" with. I still have an easier time seeing Kobe at that 6'4.75"-6'5" range because when I really look, I can see him look that in a number of comparisons(Metta, Gasol, Odom, Shaq, Wade, Dwight etc.) but Barkley still generally looks at least solid 6'5" range to me, such as with Gabrielle Reece even if she's only 190 cm. But I agree with viper about Barkley's talent. He was basically immovable when he'd post up. Almost an automatic double team and if he didn't turn the ball over, you basically had no choice but to foul him. I wonder what he would have done with his '93 conditioning for more years without the back and knee problems. Even when he was breaking down and had lost a lot of athletic ability in Houston, he was still able to dominate such as when he had 30+ rebounds.
Canson said on 1/Nov/18
@Viper: well said. And it was 6’4.75 before. That is 1/8” inflation just because of how others are listed making him appear taller than he is
Canson said on 1/Nov/18
@Viper: well said
Canson said on 31/Oct/18
@Rising: The more I see of Richardson the more he looks just a solid 6’4”. I won’t rule out 6’4.75 for Wallace or even 6’5”. If you see Wallace and Kobe together they look almost identical. Wallace isn’t any taller. He could look similar with Barkley for a few moments that they interacted. But for Ainge and Barkley, Ainge called Barkley 6’4 1/2 below. I definitely agree with you that he could measure 6’4.75-6’5 but not at a low. Likely that is a morning height for him (probably around when the combine would occur or maybe an hour or so after) I can say that the 6’4 5/8 may have been his low at his peak as well. I would say that his low could be around 6’4.5 up to 6’4 5/8 imho.
In the comparisons between Wallace and JRich I see about half inch really
said on 31/Oct/18
@Rising: I understand he claimed those two. But just because he did doesn’t negate the claims of 6’4 1/2, 6’4 3/4, and the measurement at 6’4 5/8. In the case of the two you mentioned, you can see in this article that 6’5.25 is a shoe height 6’5.5 and 6’5.25 are shoe heights however. You see in this article in the 80s that he claimed 6’4.75 and 6’5.25. 6’5.5 has to be a shoe height as well if the lower of the two you mentioned is.
viper said on 30/Oct/18
Rob has him at 6-4 7/8, so that should tell you something.
It's crazy how great he was at 6-4.5. Even If he was 6-6 he was undersized.
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said on 30/Oct/18
@Canson: I'm not saying if Barkley claimed 6'5.25" that would prove he is, I'm just saying that's a figure I can buy and since he's apparently quoted as saying that's barefoot, that would also suggest the 6'5.25" or 6'5.5" claims weren't meant in shoes. Whether they're accurate is a different matter. I know you're saying 6'4.5" and not 6'4" flat, but my point is about Ainge saying Barkley is 6'4" and the same height as he is. We have the full team photo with the two side by side and Barkley looks clearly(at least an inch) taller. Same with Kenny, my point is Kenny calling Barkley 6'4" while claiming to be 6'2" himself makes the accuracy of his claim for both himself and Barkley questionable at best, imo. I agree Kenny is closer to 6'1", but I see 4" minimum. If you look at that last barefoot pic I posted, Kenny reaches no higher than Barkley's eyebrows and with better posture. I think that's gotta be 4" and it looks at least that in the Jon Jones video as well. But even if I'm wrong about the difference and it's only 3.5" as you say, that still means the 2" difference Kenny implies is way off. That Bird quote says 6'4" or 6'5" so he's not ruling out 6'5" and I've said the 6'4.75"-6'5" is possible, but I can't see any lower. Jason Richardson was measured 6'4.75" pre-draft, iirc, but Wallace looks noticeably taller: Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 29/Oct/18
@Rising: i understand all of your points. And I respect them and you. But I don’t have him 6’4. 6’4.5 instead. That puts Kenny at about 6’1”. There is not a full 4” difference between them. Really it can look 3” at times like when they did the parody of them walking into the Champions club where Barkley wasn’t allowed in. That’s only a 3” difference between them (clearly). As for his 6’5.25 claim I see where you’re coming from too. But that’s no different than him claiming 6’4.5 below at :52 where Ainge calls Barkley Jason Richardson’s size and barkley says Gerald Wallace is about 6’4.5 like he is
Canson said on 29/Oct/18
@Rising: i understand all of your points. And I respect them and you. But I don’t have him 6’4. 6’4.5 instead. That puts Kenny at about 6’1”. There is not a full 4” difference between them. As for his 6’5.25 claim I see where you’re coming from too. But that’s no different than him claiming 6’4.5 below at :52 where Ainge calls Barkley Jason Richardson’s size and barkley says Gerald Wallace is about 6’4.5 like he is
Canson said on 28/Oct/18
Larry Bird “Charles is a totally dominant player. Guys who are 6-4 or 6-5 just aren’t supposed to be able to do that in the NBA”. From the NBA Basketball “An Official Fan’s Guide” published in 1994.
If the guy were really over 6’5” or even a full 6’5”, people wouldn’t be calling him that and he would’ve been listed taller than 6’6” his whole career. Likeliest that the 6’4.75 or 6’4 7/8 were morning measurements of some sort and he’s really more like his Olympic Measurment of 6’4 5/8 or 6’4.5 at a low
Rising - 174 cm said on 26/Oct/18
@Canson: Yes, "more like" COULD refer to something a mm off. Though I don't think Wolff actually had a precise measurement he was referring to. I believe Wolff was probably under the impression players were measured at the Olympics based on the '92 and '00 rosters that had players listed 2" or 3 cm below their NBA listings and remembered Barkley giving precise figures like 6'4 3/4" over the years or SI itself writing Barkley was 6'4 7/8" a year earlier. I think Wolff likely conflated these things, but to this day we don't see NBA players like Lebron, Durant, Melo etc. getting measured for Team USA. The only reason players are measured at the pre-draft camp is so teams considering drafting them can better evaluate them, but that's not at all necessary for established superstars. Barkley himself said "They lie...I’ve been measured at 6-5, 6-4 ¾. But I started in college at 6-6." Two things to note, one is Barkley isn't acknowledging measuring below 6'4.75" and it also seems he's talking about entering college. If Barkley is referring to himself as 6'4" within the context of the NBA while calling Jordan 6'6" then that's definitely downplaying. I firmly believe Barkley is taller than Jordan, but at worst, they're about the same height so implying he's 2" shorter is misleading. If you go back to the last page, several posters allude to a 6'5.25" claim. An anonymous poster quotes Barkley saying "barefoot, i'm six five and a quarter." But Vegas mentions this as well. This was supposedly after a Cavs/Suns game on 1/28/07. If this can be confirmed then Barkley has claimed more different heights than Dolph Lundgren. I don't agree that a 6'5" Barkley wouldn't surprise people since that's much smaller than other dominant rebounders who spent most of their careers as 4s and still below his NBA listing. That's one of our differences while the other is the reliability of second or third hand sources years after the fact. All it took for the New York Times to falsely report Larry Johnson "barely topping" 6-3 at the pre-draft camp was Mutombo saying his height was one of the most exaggerated. Similarly, Mutombo saying Collins was 4" below his listing was enough for the New York Times to report "Collins, who is more like 6-8, is not the only basketball player telling a tall tale." Notice the NYT writer uses the exact phrase "more like."
Rising - 174 cm said on 25/Oct/18
@Canson: I'm not telling you not to base your opinion on that and I'm not telling Rob he should upgrade Barkley, I'm just saying that doesn't convince me with all this visual evidence, including some of what I just posted. Especially since you said Majerle said maybe Barkley is 6'5" so we're talking a really small difference, especially with Chuck's pointy head, weight, loose posture and the appeal of an underdog story like a 6'4" Barkley. Even the 6'5" flat or weak 6'5" I say is possible is already me accounting for Barkley maybe having a tendency to look taller in photos or video for some unexplained reason. I don't have any confidence in Kenny Smith's word because I believe Kenny claims to be 6'2" himself and the difference is far greater than 2". A 6'4" Barkley puts Kenny struggling with 6'. Similarly, if Ainge were to admit he's no more than 6'3" himself then I'd find him more credible, but not as long as he's claiming Barkley isn't taller than he is. I would think someone with sense would have said Durant actually is 6'9" range by now or 6'10" max rather than 6'11"-7'0" or at least pointed out Durant is only 6'11" in shoes, but still you even hear a guy like Chris Webber call Durant a 7 footer. Same thing with Kevin Garnett. I'd think someone besides KG himself would have said he actually is 6'11", especially since Brook Lopez is taller. Even considering A-Rod is more like 6'1.5"(which is bad news for Trump's hopes of even being a full 6'2" peak), Barkley still doesn't look under 6'5" to me there. And what about Gabrielle Reece? Even if she drops under 6'3" to say 190, Barkley still looks like he easily clears 6'5" with her. If we can establish whether Barkley has lost height or not then maybe we could get them to settle this once and for all on Inside the NBA, much like when they weighed Barkley.
Canson said on 24/Oct/18
@Rising and Christian: “more like” could also mean that he measured 194.7 cm which is 1mm over 6’4 5/8 or 194.5 cm which is 1mm under the mark. I’ve found that very few people, even in the presence of a doctor, measure perfectly on a fraction even 1/4 of the time that they measure. The doctor, nurse, or person measuring will generally take whichever fraction the person measures closest to. But Rising, Christian has a point. If Barkley were 6’5, they wouldn’t make something that specific or list him that way. If Barkley had measured 195cm they would’ve said “more like 6’4 3/4” or if they had measured him at 195.2 6’4 7/8 or just called him closer to 6’5”. Too many people are stuck on him having claimed 6’4 in his career and others calling him that which is why people want to say he downplays his height. Downplay would really only apply if the man has never measured under 6’5 or maybe 6’4.75 in his lifetime or for the sake of this argument during his playing career. He’s always measured between 6’4-6’5 but still 6’4 range. Obviously he has at some stage if he was only 6’4 5/8 at one measurement
Canson said on 24/Oct/18
@Rising: there’s a huge difference. Barkley is 6’4” range barefoot. Maybe not a flat 6’4 but around 6’4.5. AROD you mentioned isn’t 6’3”. So that’s the difference there. Like Viper said, they wouldn’t undercut how tall a guy actually is by that much. If he’s 6’5 range they wouldn’t be saying he’s 6’4”. Eventually someone with some sense would’ve called it out had that been the case
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said on 24/Oct/18
Judging by this pic with Alex Rodriguez 2 years ago, Chuck's height seems to be holding up well in his mid 50's: Click Here
The funny thing is few in the general public question A-Rod is 6'3" so you'll have many casual fans calling A-Rod 6'3" and Barkley 6'4". That reminds me of reading Ben Stiller was 5'8" and Tom Cruise was 5'7" in the same article. Rob doesn't have a page for A-Rod yet, but he does list Gabrielle Reece 6'3" and we saw her in a good side by side pic with Barkley: Click Here
@Christian: I forgot to mention that I understand why you assume Barkley was measured that, but your last post shows perfectly that's it's just that -- an assumption. If it were more than that, you wouldn't have to speculate about the precise nature of the figure.
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said on 24/Oct/18
@Christian: "More like" literally means the exact same thing as "closer to" as you can see by the verbatim definition I quoted, which literally comes up as "nearer to." It's much more logical to assume he meant what he actually wrote rather than something considerably different. You could say Magic Johnson was "more like 6-7 than 6-9" and Barkley was "closer to 6-4 5/8 than 6-6" and the meaning of the sentences wouldn't change. And read the quote above, Wolff did say "than 6-6" at the end. The precise figure is probably because Barkley's height was given as 6'4" and a precise fraction many times, including as early as the 1987 interview with Chick Hearn and it was given as 6'4 7/8" just a year and a half earlier in that very same magazine: Click Here
Wolff almost certainly read that considering he wrote for the same magazine. He probably heard figures like that for years and remember the players being listed shorter, including Barkley at 6'4" and Magic at 6'7" and wrote that without thinking too much of it. If he meant exactly, he'd have said that and he doesn't say measured anywhere. That's the least that should be expected considering nobody else has any details of any measurements. IF anyone was measured -- and that's a big if -- I seriously doubt Wolff had the list of measurements in front of him 9 years later. There's no reason for established NBA superstars to be measured for the Olympics. Just look at some of the height listings for the 2000 team, Kevin Garnett was at 207 cm or 6'9" range! Click Here
McDyess at 202 etc. They just knocked 3 cm off everyone that time. It was actually claimed once players were measured in 1988 and that's possible since they were still amateurs, but given the Olympic history of just knocking off 2" from everyone in '92 and 3 cm off everyone in 2000, I'd take any claims like that with a grain of salt. In short, it is plausible Wolff assumed Barkley was measured(even if he didn't specifically state that) at the '92 Olympics because of that article Rob posted, but it's not logical to assume he meant exactly 6'4 5/8" any more than he meant Magic was exactly 6'7". Personally, I believe Magic is or was 6'7.5" because his 6'8.5" claim seems like a shoe height to me.
@Canson: You'll have to tell me the timestamp in the video, but I found this still of the celebration: Click Here
Ignore eye level since Magic is tilting his head up. Check out the difference between the top of their heads. Maybe it's a solid 2" difference if Barkley has the camera advantage. And Barkley is slouching himself in the first pic. The point is, it's consistently less than 2.5". The most it could be is 2" in those pictures, imo. You'll have to tell me the timestamp in a long video. Jordan is shorter in this Dream Team behind the scenes footage from both angles: Click Here
was visibly shorter than Barkley in the official dream team photo: Click Here
and in these: Click Here Click Here
I have Jordan at 6'4.75", but Barkley definitely looks taller to me. Malone was brought up at 6'8" and Penny at 6'6" and I agree with that, but that means Barkley looked at least 6'5.5" with them in 1996: Click Here
and Barkley measures up at least that well comparing both to Gene: Click Here
Kenny Smith has been cited as a source and this is the best side by side barefoot still of Barkley and Kenny and Barkley still has 4" minimum with worse posture: Click Here
so Kenny better stop claiming 6'2" himself and Ainge can say Charles is his height, but Barkley is noticeably(more than an inch) taller in a full shot side by side: Click Here
For the record, I think both you and Christian are generally reasonable and accurate with your estimates, but Barkley looks easily 6'5"+ in most comparisons to me. That's why the lowest I can give him is the 6'4.75"-6'5" range he said he measured, but the 6'5.25" he's supposed to have claimed barefoot looks more accurate to me honestly.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 24/Oct/18
If Wolff meant that Barkley was closer to 6'4 5/8" than 6'6", he would've said something like "Barkley was more like 6'4.5 than 6'6". First off, 5/8" is a very specific number, and there would be no reason for him to pick that figure unless if Barkley actually measured it. Second, he didn't write "than 6'6" at the end of that statement.
Canson said on 23/Oct/18
@Rising: in the first pic with Barkley and Magic, Magic is leaning. Magic does have 2.5” on Barkley easily in dream team video. In the videos Jordan and barkley are around the same height
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said on 22/Oct/18
@Animus: That's a fair post and I'd even say he's probably around 6'5" one way or the other, but going by how tall Barkley looks and the fact he claimed it once, I wouldn't say it's clear at all that he's not 6'5.5". Video with 5'11.5" Jimmy Fallon: Click Here
Just look at how the top of Barkley's pointy head is barely in frame and he doesn't exactly stand like Henry Cavill either. You might say Barkley has ground advantage, but then that means he'd be on lower ground here since their positions are reversed: Click Here
Barkley still towers Fallon by a minimum 6". He looks 7"+ taller than Hugh Grant, whom many think is a legit 5'11". I don't think that myself, but he's probably not under 5'10.5". Fwiw, I've seen Fallon with someone I know to be just over 5'11" over and Jimmy might have not been taller, but he definitely wasn't shorter. I don't expect you to just take my word for it, though so here's Fallon with a 6'0"(at worst 1/8" under) Drew Brees: Click Here
Fallon is maybe 1 cm shorter or 1.5 max. Jeremy Renner also edges Rob out and Fallon had at least 3" on him: Click Here
@Canson: Sorry, I forgot to respond to a couple of things in my last post. I agree Barkley and Mullin are about the same height, but I doubt Mullin was less than 6'5". I don't trust shots during games for height comparisons since the cameras are often high, low and at a distance. Mullin looks barely shorter than 6'6" Jalen Rose here: Click Here
Certainly not 1.5"-2" shorter. He did look 1.5"-2" shorter than Scottie Pippen, but certainly not 2.5"-3": Click Here
Even if you believe Pippen's reported 6'7.5" measurement was early, Mullin looks at least 6'5" even compared to a 6'7" flat Pippen. Incidentally, the same would be true about Barkley there and that's as good of a pic as you can find with Barkley and Pippen side by side in a full shot. And whatever Dan Majerle is, he wasn't taller than Barkley himself: Click Here
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said on 22/Oct/18
@Christian: No. "The world learned" is vague. Wolff doesn't say HOW "the world learned" that. If he meant to get across that Barkley measured then Wolff is a poor writer. The definition of "more like" literally comes up as "nearer to (a specified number or description) than one previously given" so in this context, it just means closer to that than 6'6". With literally no other source stating Barkley was measured and no other source stating the 6'4 5/8" figure, Wolff would have had to be a lot more specific to state as a fact that Barkley was not only measured, but measured at exactly 6'4 5/8". It's very possible Wolff was just referring to the 6'4 7/8" since that's at least been mentioned twice('99 and '02) and unlike the 6'4 5/8", did specifically state it was a measurement. Imo, it's even more probable Wolff was referring to that dubious list that knocked off 2" from every player's NBA listing, which included Barkley at 6'4" and Magic at 6'7". You can believe what you want, but it's simply misleading to tell people Barkley was measured and at exactly 6'4 5/8" if that's what you're basing it off of. Actually reported measurements like Dwayne Wade, Eli Manning and Aaron Hernandez are regularly doubted and yet this assumed measurement with no documentation is taken as verified? Like I said, you can believe what you want, but it's misleading to state it as a fact and I won't believe it without documentation.
@Canson: You say clearly, yet the only side by side pic of Barkley and Johnson shows them identical: Click Here
And the Magic point doesn't make sense either because the difference doesn't look anywhere near 2.5"-3" most of the time they're together:
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 21/Oct/18
Words like "more like" and "the world learned" are just semantics. People say "more like" to mean "actually". It's the same as saying "Charles Barkley was actually 6'4 5/8".
Canson said on 21/Oct/18
Animus said on 21/Oct/18
Barkley is clearly not 6'5½ and he's clearly not 6'4. He is without question closer to 6'5 than 6'4, so anywhere from 6'4⅝ to roughly 6'5 is possible for an afternoon measurement. Whenever I watch a video of him and compare him to others whose heights are known to a reasonable degree, he comes off as around 6'5.
said on 20/Oct/18
@Viper: if Barkley were really 6’5.5 he would look a lot closer in height with Magic. Magic at his peak wasn’t more than 6’7-6’7.25. That’s roughly 3” between them (2.5-3”). Go to where they are celebrating. Also Chris Mullin isn’t as tall as advertised. He’s Barkley’s height not 6’6 or 6’7. He was only listed 6’6 like MJ and Barkley at first then became 6’7 when he moved to forward for the Warriors in the 80s. He’s 6’4” range as well only half inch taller than sprewell If not even the same height at 6’4”
Canson said on 20/Oct/18
I agree with Viper. He generally can look about half inch taller than a legit 6’4” guy. Maybe his peak was the 6’4 5/8 he measured at the olympics (or a hair under at 194.5) but 6’4.5 looks just as possible. He doesn’t look a legit 6’5”. Larry Johnson is strong 6’5 and is clearly taller than Barkley
Rising - 174 cm
said on 20/Oct/18
@Canson: I'm not using the McGinest screenshot as proof Barkley is taller. I just posted that as a response to say I'm far from convinced they're the same height. But you're assuming that Dr. J being an inch taller is prior knowledge and disregarding the pic you refer to because of that. Personally, if Dr. J was taller, I doubt it was an inch. I don't think he measured up better to Moses than Barkley in this full side by side pic: Click Here
Fwiw, Barkley looks to be standing straighter, but Moses might have a slight camera/tilt advantage.
@viper: I'd even agree surprising is a fair description, but impossible is going too far, imo. Some heights get repeated a lot, but they wind up being myths like a 5'5" Rod Stewart. An overweight man with often bad posture and a pointy head(meaning relatively lower eye level) can get guessed a bit lower to begin with. I admit 6'5" flat is possible too, but I can't go lower than the 6'4.75"-6'5" range partially because of videos like this: Click Here
Even if Jones is a flat 6'3", Barkley is still looking at least 6'5" to me and 4"+ taller than Kenny as he usually does. The 6'4 7/8" figure was actually mentioned another time in '99 by SI, though so there may be something to it. He might be a guy like Kobe who sometimes looks taller than he is, but I don't know.
Canson said on 19/Oct/18
@Viper: yes and that’s what I’ve been saying all along. Like Danny Ainge Calling him 6’4 1/2 or Dan Majerle saying he’s “maybe 6’5 probably 6’4”. You can see with Danny Manning who is 6’9” that Barkley is over 4” shorter. That doesn’t mean he is 6’4 flat it just means he’s somewhere in the 6’4” range. To be fair he may give off a shorter impression at times but these are his teammates who have played with him for years. To add to that Moses Malone called him 6’4” and Dr J and Mo Cheeks both said he’s 6’4/6’5 and Joe Klein 6’4 as well. They wouldn’t all be making that up. I see what Rising is saying that he’s probably not a flat 6’4” but neither am I and I still claim 6’4” as well at 6’4 1/4-1/3 range. He’s just 6’4” and change. In his prime he likely would edge me but we likely would not be able to tell a difference unless I came all the way down to 6’4.25 and he were something like 6’4 5/8 because that would be a cm. 1/4” is not noticeable. To be fair, other players barefoot heights weren’t established, so many people believe Barkley is undercutting himself. It’s quite possible Malone was not even a full 6’8”. He may have only been 6’7.75 and he was easily at minimum 3” taller than barkley when the Dream Team was inducted. Malone didn’t have but about half inch on Magic in reality. Magic was also never as tall as Rob lists him here. Maybe 6’7.25 but he’s nothing more than 6’7 today tops. Maybe a hair under even. Look at Magic with Kurt Rambis and Rambis is taller than him clearly. And a 6’5.5 guy at a low would not be guessed under 6’5.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 19/Oct/18
Hey guys, off topic: Could you comment on Christopher Lee's page? There's something new I was wondering, and I'd love to hear your point of views on that something!
viper said on 18/Oct/18
Barkley at 6-5 plus would be surprising because he's referred to as 6-4 so much.
A 6-5.5 Barkley doesn't seem possible to be gauged at just 6-4 by so many.
Canson said on 18/Oct/18
@Rising: I can’t tell from that picture who is taller because I can’t see the ground level etc or the way either is standing. I’ve seen pics where Barkley looks taller than Dr J and he’s an inch shorter
viper said on 18/Oct/18
6-4.5 looks right on the money.
He gets called 6-4 so much by people who meet him.
Rising - 174 cm
said on 18/Oct/18
@Canson: I watched the video and when they appear to be more equal distance from the camera, Barkley looks taller to me: Click Here
No idea when McGinest was measured.
Canson said on 16/Oct/18
@Rising: in the pics I’ve seen they look identical but Willie measures 6’4.5 or 5/8 himself so If a morning height he’s only around 6’4-6’4 1/8.
Rising - 174 cm said on 16/Oct/18
@Canson: I meant Riley said Jordan measured 6'4.5" 25 years later since Riley was quoted saying that in 2009 and Jordan was drafted in 1984. Rob says the Philly sportswriter's quote was 2002 at the top so that would be 18 years after Barkley was drafted and Alexander Wolff wrote about the Olympics in 2001 so 9 years later. In each case, there's a significant passage of time so I agree the 6'4 7/8" could also be inaccurate and I've never called it official myself because we'd need corroboration with more than one guy saying it and no doubt about where and when it occurred before calling it "official." I've said before that it's reasonable for you to assume a precise figure came from a measurement since Rob does that too such as with Holyfield, but my point is it's still an assumption. That's why Rob doesn't say Holyfield measured 6'1.25" at the top of the page, though it's understandable to believe he did. But again if the SI writer Alexander Wolff meant Barkley was exactly 6'4 5/8" then why say he was "more like" that height? With no known history of NBA players being measured at the Olympics, I'd need it to be explicitly stated Barkley was measured at the very least. Saying "the world learned" could mean any number of things. As for Barkley's actual height, that's a different matter and you've explained why you estimate Barkley around 6'4.5". I'm not saying I don't understand, I just don't agree on Barkley's height.
Rising - 174 cm said on 15/Oct/18
@Canson: I bet Barkley would be taller there if they were equal distances from the camera. Look at their eye and chin level and then consider Willie's head looks more than an inch bigger with most of that being from eye level up.
Canson said on 15/Oct/18
@Rising: I don’t think that was 25 years later when the reporter recanted that. Maybe I’m wrong. Jordan would measure 6’4.75 but I feel that his low would be 6’4.5 and prob wake up to 6’5.25. I say that because a guy who is guessed 6’4 range just as often as a full 6’5 is likely 194cm range and that’s how Jordan looks is 194-195. As for Barkley, that would be silly for them to be that precise about his height down to the 1/8” though. They wouldn’t do that. And here you see Danny Ainge also say he’s 6’4.5 even tho Ainge called himself that too. Ainge was more like 6’4” flat which he later admitted when he said Barkley was about 1/2” taller than he was and that Ainge was 6’4”. Dan Majerle said the same. I just think it’s nonsense for them to downplay his height when people have met him in the NBA and off the court and have pegged him in that same 6’4-6’5 range. Many people here do that. I do see where you in particular are coming from however but I don’t agree. Barkley at 6’4 5/8 is like Kevin Durant at 6’9”. Barkley at 6’6 is like KD at 6’11”. You’re right in that they inflate one and downgrade the other when referring to either of them. However, the “6’4” is adequate for Barkley as he is somewhere around 6’4.5” most likely. As for KD it’s likely he is not even 6’11” in shoes but they rounded up his shoe measurement from prob 6’10.5. So that’s where you get Barkley being 6’4 and KD being 6’11. If we wanna say downplay for Barkley then it’s by maybe 1/2” or so. For KD that’s an inflation of 1/2” prob. But both are about 1/2” away from Barkley’s barefoot height and Durant’s shoe height. That’s what they do to make the accomplishments sound better. They don’t simply make up a height to make someone shorter on purpose. I’d have an easier time believing Barkley 6’4 than KD being 7’0”
As far as the measurements, Even without what Barkley himself said, he measured 6’4 7/8 just like Christian said. Being that we don’t know when it occurred and being that it likely was a morning measurement if combine, I don’t see why him being 6’4 5/8 wouldn’t be possible. That’s just 1/4” from his combine measurement. In addition, in regards to what you said earlier about there being no proof Barkley measured 6’4 5/8 there is none that he measured 6’4 7/8. Rob saying that is official is only because it came from a sportswriter and because so many people here try to induce him to boost Barkley. Truth is we don’t know if the 6’4 7/8 is accurate for him. It’s no different than what you said about the Olympic measurements and it’s not official.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Oct/18
Rising - 174 cm said on 14/Oct/18
@Canson: Since there's no indication players were actually measured at the Olympics, it's very probable that was the writer's source. The reason he probably only mentioned Barkley and Magic is because it was an article on NBA heights in general 9 years later. Barkley and Magic's heights were spoken about much more than Bird, Jordan, Pippen, Malone etc. because Barkley was the most famous undersized power forward and Magic the most famous big point guard. If those 2 were separately measured then why just those 2? Why not the entire team? And why no mentions of it at all beyond Alexander Wolff in SI 9 years later? He only needed a couple of examples to make his point since he was mentioning a lot of then(2001) current players such as Kevin Garnett, Earl Boykins, Dana Barros and numerous UNC big men from Brad Daugherty to Brendan Haywood. The writer wasn't being completely precise because he said Barkley was "more like 6-4 5/8" than 6-6. If Barkley were exactly 6-4 5/8 then why not say "Barkley is exactly 6-4 5/8, not 6-6 as he was listed in the NBA." "More like" can be taken to mean 6'4" and some fraction. Again, it was 9 years later so it's likely the writer just remember hearing Barkley was 6'4" and change for years and remembering the Olympic roster seemed to confirm this. Neither the 7/8" or 5/8" are official as far as we know, but at the '02 writer does specifically claim Barkley was measured that. The 2001 writer does not make mention of how he knew Barkley's height. The '92 roster with every player shorter was reported at the time in the big papers so it's likely many covering the NBA read that. I think there's a good chance Pat Riley was more or less accurate when he recounted Jordan's supposed measurement, but this was over 25 years after Jordan was drafted so considering the limitations of memory and considering Riley may have not cared about 1/4" to make his point, I can believe Jordan was more like 6'4.75" and still believe Riley was pretty much right. The main point being that Jordan was nowhere near 6'6" without shoes and not even 6'5". Most people wouldn't care if someone was exactly 6'4.5" or 6'4.75". We're strange in that way.
None of this stuff is corroborated, though. The Barkley 7/8" and Riley's 6'4.5" claim for Jordan are basically the same thing as it does claim each player was measured at a specific figure, but both claims are many years later and lack corroboration. If anything, I find Riley's claim more credible as we do know measurements go to half inches while the NBA typically doesn't measure more precisely than quarter inches(though a private measurement by a team could) and we know more about Pat Riley and his reputation than some relatively anonymous Philly sportswriter. The 6'4 5/8" is less reliable for several reasons. 1. There's not a history of NBA players being measured at the Olympics like they are at the pre-draft camps. 2.The SI writer doesn't even specifically claim Barkley was measured like Riley did with Jordan and the Philly guy did with Barkley and 3.The SI writer does not say Barkley was exactly a height, but "more like". But for all we know, the SI writer might be referring to the same thing as the Philly writer if he's not simply referring to the roster that knocked 2" off of everyone. But you don't know they're different and you don't know Barkley was measured at the Olympics. They're not facts, but assumptions. I'm not saying they're unreasonable assumptions, but they're assumptions nonetheless. Some of my explanations are also assumptions, but I'm not claiming them to be facts.
said on 14/Oct/18
@Rising: Barkley is “about” same height as Willie Mcginest who measured 6’4 1/2. Don’t know what time of the day so possible he’s only 6’4 flat. If Barkley does edge him then it’s likely that McGinest is less than 6’4.5. Bill Belichick even called Barkley 6’4”.
Canson said on 13/Oct/18
@Christian: I respect Rising a lot. But I don’t agree with him here. The Olympic measurements he’s talking about are totally different from the 6’4 5/8 Barkley measured. That article he’s referring to is the one Rob posted about a year ago where they knocked off 2” from every player even the ones who weren’t measured. In the case of 6’4 5/8, the article that that came from only referenced Magic and Barkley. In addition, the article is very specific and says 6’4 5/8 for Barkley. If they were going to purposely downgrade him, they wouldn’t waste their time being that precise. They’d have just called him 6’4”. 6’4 5/8 is closer to 6’5”. In the article (almost everyone here missed this detail), it said that only some players were measured. It said that Barkley was one of the ones who volunteered to be measured. That 6’4 7/8 is no more “official” than the 6’4 5/8 in my opinion since people don’t believe Pat Riley when he says Jordan measured 6’4.5 or that Barkley measures 6’4 5/8. 6’4 7/8 came from a columnist as well, and there is no record. My guess is that 6’4 5/8 is the more accurate of the two being Barkley claimed 6’4 3/4 and being that he is told constantly that he’s not even 6’5 like 6’3” Chick Hearn telling him to his face in an interview and Mo Cheeks, joe Klein, Dan Majerle and Danny Ainge
Rising - 174 cm said on 12/Oct/18
@Christian: I'm open to the possibility, but there's not nearly enough for me to say case closed. For one, I've never seen official NBA measurements more precise than quarter inches and I haven't seen any draft measurements before 1987. The writer also reported this years after Barkley retired in 2002 and doesn't mention a source or who took the measurement. You and others question measurements with far more documentation.
said on 11/Oct/18
@Rising: only problem is 6’4 5/8 would signal “closer to 6’5” than 6’4. They wouldn’t have put it that way I doubt. It lines up with his claims of 6’4.75 and 6’4.5.
Add Danny Ainge to the long list of people who call Barkley 6’4 range
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 10/Oct/18
Even if you say that the 6'4 5/8" wasn't legit, Barkley still oficially measured 6'4 7/8", so you can't say that he's 6'5"+.
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Oct/18
@Canson: The thing is, it doesn't actually say Barkley and Magic were measured or even their exact heights. It just says they "learned" Barkley was "more like" 6'4 5/8" and Magic was "closer to" 6'7" than 6'9". For all we know, that writer could be referring to the roster where they just knocked 2 inches off. That SI article was written 9 years later in 2001 so the writer might have not even had the roster in front of him, but remembered Barkley and Magic being listed shorter and somewhere in the 6'4" and 6'7" range, respectively. I can see not much more than 3" between Barkley and Rock in the full picture, but Barkley has visibly worse posture and it's actually much more in that other pic with just Barkley, Rock and Shaq. I don't see any indication of a footwear advantage. Both seem to have fairly flat footwear, but Rock looks like he's wearing boots, though I can't see the heel. Does anyone know what brands and models they're wearing? Maybe the videos for those segments will have a clearer shot.
Canson said on 8/Oct/18
@Rising: I have about 2.5-2.75” between the two. Barkley max 6’4 5/8 Rock 6’2”. Footwear advantage may make Barkley 6’4.5
Canson said on 8/Oct/18
@Rising: I do agree with some of what you said such as Bird measuring 6’7”. Obviously he’s taller than that. But that is a different mention to measurements than barkley’s. They simply knocked two inches off every player on that one. Barkley is said to be 6’4” there. In the other one, he’s 6’4 5/8 however and it only makes reference to Barkley and Magic being measured. So I would say that that’s a bit more accurate
Rising - 174 cm said on 7/Oct/18
@Canson: I still say if you compare Barkley to Rock even at 6'2", he's minimum 6'5" there, but if you compare him to Shaq and possibly even Marky Mark, then he can look 6'4.5ish in those pics. Shaq looks massive there. I don't believe any players were measured at the Olympics, though. Especially since there was that roster listing every player exactly 2 inches below their NBA listing with the odd exception of Stockton. I think we can safely say Larry Bird was not 6'7".
Canson said on 6/Oct/18
@Rising: I see 6-7cm with Barkley and Rock. Barkley’s sneaker is slightly thicker. I have Barkley at about 6’4.5 and Rock 6’2” imho. Coincidentally, I have a friend who has met both and that’s kinda how he pegged them as well. He says Barkley is between 6’4-6’5 which aligns with his 6’4 5/8 measurement and he said the Rock was an inch shorter than him although in the pic he showed me of them it looked more. My friend is 6’3” (measured him 190.4 cm at night)
Rising - 174 cm
said on 29/Sep/18
Obama's head looks a bit bigger than Barkley's there and I don't believe that's the case in reality so I would think Obama is getting at least some camera advantage. I don't think you can tell what the difference would be there. A video like the ones Obama had with Kobe and MJ would be better or at least a side by side pic. The absolute minimum I can see for Barkley and Rock in the full pic is 8 cm: Click Here
And I'm just not seeing this footwear advantage. I'm not saying it's impossible until we know exactly what each are wearing, but I'd think any difference would be maybe 1/4". I do agree that Obama could be just shy of 6'1" as he looked close to Trump's height and admittedly looked under it with MJ and Kobe. But the difference between Barkley and Rock actually looks even greater in this pic with them side by side: Click Here
Going back to the full pic for a second, I think it's clear Barkley has loose posture, but you could argue 6'4" range Barkley there with Shaq(who looks to be dropping the most height) and possibly Wahlberg(who is standing straight and closer to the camera). Barkley only comes up to Shaq's mouth. I don't know if Wahlberg slipped a lift in his Jordan, but he's looking taller than I'd expect with everyone except Shaq. Rock struggles with 6'2" next to Wahlberg, though I'd give him 6'2.5" barefoot in general for 2013. But in the second pic, Barkley has more than 4" on Rock and his posture still looks worse. I doubt Rock would remark on how small he looked with Barkley if it was less than 3", though. There does look to be a tilt from left to right in the second pic, but maybe a slight tilt the other direction in the first. I'd think the best comparison is the two closest in height and that's Barkley and Rock and Barkley looks easily 6'5" range in that comparison, imo, but as I said, the other heights don't quite add up.
said on 26/Sep/18
@Rising: I’m taking into account where Obama comes up on Barkley’s head and that’s not even a 4” difference. Regardless of camera advantage Obama would still come up to the same on his head. Again we are assuming Obama is a full 6’1 and not like 6’0.5-.75 or .75. His physical said “roughly 6’1” and rob even said he believed 6’1.5 in shoes
said on 26/Sep/18
@Rising: I’m taking into account where Obama comes up on Barkley’s head and that’s not 4” difference. Regardless of camera advantage Obama would still come up to the same on his head
Canson said on 26/Sep/18
@Rising: assuming Jackman is actually that tall. I’m not sure 3.5” either could be 3”. But again we don’t know if Jackman is that tall. As for the Rock with Barkley, Barkley has a footwear advantage and isn’t even a full 3” taller in the pic if we zoom in. And Rock is not above 6’2” barefoot
Rising - 174 cm
said on 20/Sep/18
@Canson: Which photo are you referring to? Obama is noticeably closer to the camera in every photo I've seen of the two. That was already back in 2013 and 6'1.5" Hugh Jackman without extra hair probably reaches just above his eyebrow or looks 3.5" shorter than Barkley that same night even with a camera advantage: Click Here
The same year Barkley was dwarfing The Rock with seemingly worse posture.
said on 17/Sep/18
President Obama’s above Barkley’s eyebrows. That’s no more than 3 or so inches between them meaning Barkley is in fact 6’4.5 tops today
Canson said on 10/Sep/18
@Rising: not sure if Melo would be over a flat 6’6” or right at or right between. He definitely didn’t look less than 6’6” for sure as he looked roughly the same size as my 6’6” buddy that I spend a considerable amount of time around. Melo was 1.5-2” taller than me minimum with similar footwear (I think). We both had dress shoes but possible one of us had 1/4” thicker sole. I agree Barkley has also claimed 6’4.5 here but to be fair all of the players tell him he isn’t 6’6” and that he’s 6’4” range. Him saying 6’4 really isn’t downplaying it if he can measure around 6’4.5. Not sure if he’s that low or lower or 5/8. But I do agree that he is over a flat 6’4” at his peak. As for Miller, he could be like 6’5 5/8. Penny looked a hair taller and Metta about the same difference shorter. Penny is supposed to be a solid 6’6. I always had Rose taller than Miller. Rose is Penny’s height. Now Chris webber is said to be 6’9” but saw Mo Cheeks refer to a 6’8/6’9” guy when he talked about him playing once. Not directly him but said that if they had a 6’8/6’9 guy to guard. Webber didn’t look any taller than Peja either and was dwarfed by Garnett and Dirk as well as 1-1.5” shorter than Rasheed Wallace. Wallace is said to be 6’9.75. Maybe 6’10 today but not sure. I have Webber 6’8.5 and he looks that with Rose if he’s 6’6”. Webber likely was rounded up to 6’9 if he was over 6’8.5 when measured but a low could be that. With Webber and Rick Mahorn Barkley was a good 4” shorter than both
Rising - 174 cm
said on 8/Sep/18
@Canson: You're right that neither is verified, but nobody is really questioning Metta is at least around that and would measure that at some point of the day. Obviously, Barkley is one of the most debated and he's claimed at least 6'4", 6'4.75", 6'5" and 6'5.5" while we only have the 6'5.5" for Metta as far as I know. Miller generally looks around 6'6" to me, but that could mean he's just under at maybe 6'5.75". He looked close to Penny, but just slightly shorter in those all-star team photos. He looks about the same as Rose in this video to me: Click Here
but Melo definitely seems bigger on the court than Miller use to, though the league has gotten smaller. I'm sure Melo would measure a bit taller anyway. I picked that pic with Metta because you can see their entire bodies, it's pretty straight and they're about equal distance from the camera as far as I can tell. Here's another from media day: Click Here
Fwiw, Barkley looks a bit shorter with Miller around the time of the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight than he did in that '07 all-star weekend pic so some height loss is possible for him.
And I get what you're saying about the number, but that's why I mentioned Durant and KG. Players call Durant a 7 footer all the time and Garnett was regularly called 7'1". As far as LJ, I haven't really looked for others, but he's not nearly as famous or accomplished as Barkley so fewer mention him in general. I've said Barkley could be right around 6'5" flat as well, so I'm not saying he must be 6'5.5", but that's still what he often looks to me and it is one of his claims. On the otherhand, The Rock remarked on both Shaq's size and Barkley's size compared to his own. He didn't mention a specific figure, but would he have noted how much bigger Barkley was if it was only 2"? I believe you on LJ's height too, but you haven't met Barkley so right now we're both guessing. Even if you did meet Barkley in the next few years, we'd have no way of knowing if he used to be taller so his peak would still remain somewhat of a mystery. Height loss by 55, much less with his knees, back and weight is fairly probable. LJ might be taller, I don't know, but like I said, in that one Team USA card, they look about the same to me.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 7/Sep/18
@187.5 cm That is a boots height for Barkley and Rock should be 6'2.
187.5 cm said on 7/Sep/18
Barkley - 198 cm
Rock - 187 cm
Canson said on 6/Sep/18
@Rising: Miller has said before that Artest is “his height” around 6’5 or 6’6”. I don’t doubt Metta measuring 6’5.5 at some point in the day (I actually was the one who found that quote for Rob on YouTube) which is why he now has a page. But Metta claiming 6’5.5 is no different than Barkley claiming 6’4.5 as it’s not documented. However, I certainly believe he does measure that number although I doubt it’s a low prob 6’5.25 as Miller has said himself he’s between 6’5-6’6. I have Miller half inch taller maybe a cm. Miller isn’t as tall as Jalen Rose or Penny Hardway or Carmelo. And in those pics I really can’t compare using them as metta Looks taller in other pics with Miller. At times they can look the same height so it may just be the specific pics you chose here.
I understand what you are saying about hyperbole but I could find 10 references just with coaches and players and other officials that call him 6’4/6’5 whereas you see the one for LJ. Him “barely topping 6’3” is like Barkley only being 6’3”. And LJ is taller than Barkley. I’ve also met LJ. He looks between 6’5-6’5.5 (he had me by a solid inch) and my former teammate had him by at least a full inch (6’6.25-.5). I’ve also met Dell Curry in 2002 at RDU airport and he was slightly shorter than me. He’s less than a full 6’4. Id say max 6’3.75 maybe 6’3.5-.75 nonetheless id say weak 6’4”
Rising - 174 cm
said on 5/Sep/18
@Canson: My point about Mutombo and LJ is that sometimes you hear erroneous figures and they're usually hyperbole to illustrate a point. I'm not sure Mutombo was the only one who said Lj was shorter than 6'5.5" either. The NY Times also reported LJ "barely" topped 6-3 at the pre-draft camp and you know as well as anyone that's ridiculous. It seems they just repeated what Mutombo said about LJ's height and assumed he measured it. Similarly, the NY Times and Mutombo both called Jason Collins 6'8". Sources can be dubious yet get repeated. Just like as many players have said Durant is 7'0" and Garnett is 7'1", but it doesn't make it true. Many can't distinguish 6'4.5"-6'4.75" from 6'5"-6'5.5" unless they're interested in height, especially with varying eye levels, posture and read what Rob has written about perceived height and check out how many have said Rod Stewart was 5'5"-5'7" over the years. A poster I consider credible from the Stallone page worked security for Stewart twice and said he's actually around 5'10.5" or 5'10" minimum, which supports Rob's listing. I also doubt there's much or any difference between Barkley and LJ. Here's the closest thing to a side by side pic: Click Here
Surely Magic is or was in the ballpark of 6'7.6" in the morning. I don't know if Magic is 6'7" or 6'7.5". I assume his 6'8.5" claim is in shoes, but either way, Barkley typically looks at least 6'5" even if Magic is 6'7" flat and not only that photo. I don't see what you're referring to as nothing about the camera angle immediately stands out. In fact, they're more side by side than Barkley is with Campbell. MJ looks shorter next to Magic, especially when you consider Magic is leaning in noticeably: Click Here
And 6'4" is ridiculous for Barkley, who has otherwise always been quite precise with his quotes and even the Hearn quote suggests he thinks of himself as closer to 6'5" than 6'4" saying he was "almost 6-5." Most people I know round up the half inch if anything just as you're taught to round .5 up rather than down in math, but I could even concede some taller people might round down at the half, but past the half and it becomes a stretch. If nothing else, the 6'4" claim does show he'll downgrade his height and also shows why he would. He was comparing his accomplishments as a "6-4 forward" to what Jordan did as a "6-6 guard" so he's being misleading at best by using MJ's NBA height at the same time since he could have made the same point by saying they're the same height. That and the fact I've never heard Barkley mention shoe height also makes it doubtful he'd claim 6'5.5" without mentioning it as a shoe height if that's what he meant, but I doubt his mugshot from the side angle added 2.5" and the straight angle still added 1.5" despite showing him with a pretty proportionate 10" head. As for Dr. J, it's never been proven he's taller than Barkley: Click Here Click Here
Obviously, Barkley has a camera advantage in the second pic, but look at their shoulders, eyes etc. and it looks very doubtful Dr. J would be taller if he moved slightly forward. Cheeks is about equal distance, though and 4.5" minimum shorter than Barkley.
And it's just your assumption that Barkley was measured 6'4.6" at any time or that he was measured at the '92 Olympics at all. There's nobody who has even specifically claimed Barkley or anyone else was measured at those Olympics and the one quote you're basing that on doesn't even say Barkley was exactly 6'4.6", but "more like" that than 6'6". If players were measured then where are all the other measurements besides Barkley and Magic(whom the writer merely said was "closer to" 6-7 than 6-9) and why no measurements for the '96, 2000, '04, '08 etc. teams? Btw, 6'5.5" Artest/Metta doesn't look taller with Reggie than Barkley does/did: Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 3/Sep/18
@Rising: yes Mutombo. However nobody else has said that about LJ. He’s 6’5” range. I’ve met him and he’s taller than Barkley. As for Barkley with Magic that’s the camera angle. First off, Magic is 6’7” flat not 6’7.5. I doubt he was ever that tall. Look at Magic with Kurt Rambis and Rambis is taller. Magic barely edged Jamal Wilkes. But If you had a 6’6” guy next to Magic in that pic they would look the same height or maybe even an advantage to the 6’6” guy. Barkley would look the same next to him as Jordan does. As for 6’4” being ridiculous, it’s not. He is 6’4 range and measured 6’4 5/8 at the olympics. That may not have been his lowest but even if his low is about that or 6’4.5 saying 6’4” doesn’t mean that he’s a flat 6’4”. It just means he’s 6’4 range. Yes he claimed 6’5.5 but that is his shoe height. As for the comparison with LJ, you just said it that Mutombo mentioned that. There are at least 10-20 players and coaches etc who have pegged Barkley at that height.
Rising - 174 cm
said on 2/Sep/18
@Canson: As you know, Barkley has had varying claims and we know 6'4.75" is one of them, but he's also said 6'5" and 6'5.5", which I think is more what he looks or looked, but he's even said 6'4", which is ridiculous. Like I said, I'm not surprised some would think he's shorter, though. He's one of the shortest great rebounders of the modern era and his pointy head would make his eye level slightly appear a fraction shorter than he'd measure. He's also had bad posture since he's been middle aged and overweight, though I don't know if that was the case back in the 80's. Back to the Campbell pic, isn't Magic about Campbell's height? Click Here
I don't see anywhere near 3" between Barkley and Magic. Remember, Mutombo said Larry Johnson was only 6'3".
jonas said on 2/Sep/18
One of the few that downgrade heights. My friend thought he was 6"7 I Said to him noe everyone inflate heights. But he looks taller then 6"5 with Kenny som he has to be a little over 6"1 not 6"3
Canson said on 2/Sep/18
@Junior: he’s claimed 6’4 and 6’4.5 before. He measures 6’4 5/8. My guess is 6’4.5 was already his low at his peak
Christian 6'5 3/8"
said on 1/Sep/18
Here's an another quote from Barkley saying he's 6'4.75" Click Here
Might wanna add that to the description.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 31/Aug/18
@Canson Barkley true height claim to be 6'4 3/4 that is legit at worst he maybe 6'4 1/2 soon. He still looking alot between like 6'4 5/8-6'4 3/4.
Canson said on 27/Aug/18
@Rising: with the Hearn Video as well, he essentially saw that Barkley wasn’t even 6’5” which leads me to believe 6’4.75 or 7/8 is an earlier measurement. Hearn himself was around 6’3” at his peak. Barkley while not as low as 6’4” was likely 6’4-6’5 peak
said on 27/Aug/18
@Rising: I doubt he was ever that tall. Dr.J was taller than he was and he was only about 6’5.5 peak. Maybe 6’4 5:8 was his low in his prime. With Chick Hearn he also stated 6’4.75 here
Rising - 174 cm said on 25/Aug/18
@Canson: Differences are the photo I posted is full with footwear known and they're not touching each other while MJ has his arm around Barkley's shoulder, which I think could be pushing Barkley down considering even if we say they're both 6'4.5" range for arguments sake, why would Barkley look shorter even with a camera advantage? I doubt their shoes would vary that much. I said up front that Barkley had a camera advantage over Kenny(but not EJ) in the first pic, but not the 2nd. He only has a slight tilt advantage in the 2nd, but even if you rotate it back by a few degrees, I'm confident he'll still be 4"+ taller even with his loose posture. And if Kenny is right about Barkley then Kenny often looks barely 6' to me. I don't doubt Barkley could look under 6'5" to some in person.
As for Campbell, well he winds up looking 3.5"-4" taller in that photo, but is gaining a pretty significant camera advantage unless his head really is at least 1.5 cm bigger than Barkley's and I have some doubts about that since Barkley looks to have around a 10" head to me including the point at the top. It wouldn't surprise me if Barkley's knees, back, age and weight are causing him to shrink either. I only claim he's 6'5"-6'5.5" in his prime, but he could be shorter nowadays. Most comparisons I've used are years old at this point.
said on 23/Aug/18
@Rising: I wasn’t saying that standing behind gives him a definite advantage but I was point out that in your pic with he and Jordan it’s the same as the one with Kenny he and Jordan and Jordan is favored. It’s the same with the pic with Kenny EJ and Barkley Barkley is favored in that one. Both Kenny and EJ have said Barkley is 6’4” range. It’s all about camera angle.
In this pic with 6’7.6 (morning) Calais Campbell Barkley surely is under 6’5”. He looks about 6’4.5 given all factors like the camera
Canson said on 23/Aug/18
@Rising: I wasn’t saying that standing behind gives him a definite advantage but I was point out that in your pic with he and Jordan it’s the same as the one with Kenny he and Jordan and Jordan is favored. It’s the same with the pic with Kenny EJ and Barkley Barkley is favored in that one. Both Kenny and EJ have said Barkley is 6’4” range
Rising - 174 cm
said on 22/Aug/18
@Canson: I don't know that being behind in the full pic gives an advantage especially since Mullin is about the same height as Barkley yet looks noticeably shorter than both in the background so it seems being farther back gives a disadvantage, especially since Jordan's head is a bit bigger than Barkley's in the photo and I don't think that's the case in reality. Barkley always looked a bit taller to me in off court Dream Team footage: Click Here
Not the best angles, but I believe Barkley edges Jordan. I did say Barkley looked shorter in the pic with Kenny, but I think that might be due to Jordan's arm around Barkley's shoulder since Barkley also looks shorter than usual with Kenny Smith. I even thought Barkley might have a tendency to wear thicker footwear until I saw him barefoot and nearly able to look over Kenny's head: Click Here Click Here
Barkley might have a bit of a camera advantage in the first and tilt advantage in the 2nd, but he still looks a lot taller to me. Back to the on court photo, that particular angle favors MJ. Look at the photo shot from the other side. That favors Barkley so he winds up looking taller: Click Here
So I'd say that's inconclusive, but you'd probably determine they were the same height from that if anything.
Canson said on 18/Aug/18
@Rising: In the pic with Kenny Smith, he’s standing just like Barkley is with him in the pic you posted. Likely because he’s further back. That’s how Barkley looked taller in the pic you posted too
Rising - 174 cm
said on 16/Aug/18
@Canson: I don't know that Barkley has much of an advantage as Jordan is closer to the camera. MJ does look taller in the 3rd pic you posted, but it could be his arm on Barkley's shoulder and Barkley doesn't look as tall as he usually does with Kenny. I trust the full photo the most, though. Barkley looks taller in this one: Click Here
and though Barkley has a big camera advantage here, I'd be somewhat surprised if Jordan was the same looking at their eye level: Click Here
As for in game court shots, they use a lot of high and low angles so I always take heights with a grain of salt, but Barkley does look taller here bumping heads with MJ: Click Here Click Here
said on 14/Aug/18
@Rising: it all depends on the picture. Barkley and Jordan look the same in the one below. In the one you posted, they would be closer if not Jordan taller if he were standing evenly next to barkley. Do you notice in the third picture that I posted Jordan is further back than Barkley and looks taller? It’s identical (opposite) of yours where Barkley is further back and looks taller. The person doesn’t always have to be closer to the camera to appear taller. They could still have an advantage. Example is Jordan looks taller in the last picture
Rising - 174 cm
said on 13/Aug/18
@Canson: It's always possible someone didn't hit their low when measured so I can't argue between 6'5.25" and 6'5.5" for Artest. 6'4.75" and 6'5" are also close enough. Vanessa could easily make a 1/4" error measuring someone over a foot taller than she is or the wall/floor level could easily do that in a home measurement. And I'm not convinced Barkley or anyone else was actually measured at the Olympics. Nor do I know what exactly he was measured. We have one writer claiming Barkley was "officially" measured 6'4 7/8" and Barkley claiming he's been measured 6'5" and 6'4.75", but we don't know when this is supposed to have happened. Barkley looks a bit taller next to Jordan than Kobe did: Click Here Click Here
They could be the same too as they look with Conan, but I'd guess Barkley taller if anything. At least in their primes. Jordan is the shortest of the 3, imo, but just barely.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Aug/18
Barkley's head was closer than Seagal's, even though their bodies were about equal. That alone gives one a camera advantage.
Canson said on 11/Aug/18
@Rising: I would have Kobe slightly taller than Barkley and his wife specifically measured him 6’4.75. That’s likely a low for him and he would be 6’5.5 out of bed maybe. Metta has prob half inch on Kobe. I actually was the one who found the mention of him claiming 6’5.5 on Power 106 for Rob. That is probably something he would measure but maybe it’s not a low for him. Maybe 6’5.25. Barkley measured 6’4 5/8 at the olympics in 1992.
@Christian: agreed. That’s the most I could ever see Barkley at even in his prime is 6’4.5 at a low.
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Aug/18
@Christian: Even if a camera advantage were clear(I don't see it), it'd be difficult to say how much it added. It's easier to guess about posture adding/taking away, but even that can be tricky. I don't think Seagal at 6'3" flat is most likely either as Rob said 6'3.25" is the lowest he'd probably guess. 6'3" flat is possible and at least from my perspective it's difficult to accurately guess people 7" apart from my height.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 10/Aug/18
He looks 1.5" taller than Seagal but his looser posture is negated by his camera advantage, and Seagal's likely more 6'3" flat than 6'3.5" which would put Barkley at 6'4.5"
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Aug/18
@Canson: I don't see the advantage, certainly not like the posture difference, but I think you're looking at is eye level. He looks in proportion to me as an abnormally large head is one of the first signs of a camera advantage. I really don't see under 6'5" there and I do think the 6'5" flat mark is possible now since Kobe can't really be more than that with Metta 6'5.5" and Barkley and Kobe do look about the same with Conan.
Canson said on 9/Aug/18
@Rising: Barkley also is favored in the pic with camera angle. That’s max an inch. Doubt less but highly doubt more
Rising - 174 cm said on 9/Aug/18
That's more than just an inch with Seagal. Even if they had equal posture, that's an easy 1.5", but Barkley clearly looks to be slouching more. Their eye level looks closer, but not the top of their heads.
said on 9/Aug/18
Rob met Seagal and pegged 6’3.5. Barkley isn’t over 6’4.5 tops if even that
Yas said on 8/Aug/18
He always seems to appears over 6'5
Canson said on 6/Aug/18
He also measured 6’4 5/8
Nils2 said on 5/Aug/18
I believe 6'4.75 was better listing,
Surely 99,9% people who would measure someone 6'4 7/8" or themselves would go with 6'5.
I think Barkley is honest about being measured both 6'5 and dipped under it aswell. And it would have to be more obvious then 1/8. Lets give more trust to Barkley himself and not the writer.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 30/Jul/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8" Aree with you. I seem it clearly Kobe the tallest one then Barkley follow by Jordan. I personally don't bother Vanessa Bryant measure that 6'4 3/4 figure she mention on Kobe. I did put Kobe at 6'5 if i am Rob and follow up 6'4 3/4 for Barkley and 6'4 5/8 for Jordan.
Rising - 174 cm
said on 30/Jul/18
Mugshots can often add height because the person necessarily stands in front of the chart and thus closer to the camera, but the way to get the best idea is to see how much the head looks in proportion. In the straight on view, Barkley's head does look about 10" starting at 5'9" and ending at 6'7", which is about what you expect from a man in the ballpark of 6'5". The 6'4 7/8" shouldn't be viewed as "official" without corroboration, but it's definitely more official than 6'4 5/8" because it doesn't even specifically say he was measured or that he was even exactly 6'4 5/8". It simply says the world "learned" Barkley was "more like 6-4 5/8." It doesn't say how they learned that or even that he was exactly 6'4 5/8", but around that. The 6'4 7/8" could be compared to the 6'4.5" Pat Riley claimed Jordan measured.
Yeah, trying to get a perfect mugshot really needs the camera to be put at the same height as the top of the head. If it's lower, the chances are it adds height, sometimes a couple of inches quite easily.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 27/Jul/18
Mugshot height charts are the worst when it comes to estimating heights, especially since most of the time people wear shoes and the camera's panned below the person's eyelevel making them appear much taller.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 26/Jul/18
I doubt that the 6'4 7/8" was made up IMO but I see it as being no more "official" than his 6'4 5/8" measurement. But I don't get why some people like Rob think that the 7/8" is more official than the 5/8" just because the writer wrote "officially" in the same sentence. It's just semantics. I mean, Rob lists Kobe at 6'4.75" which isn't even an official NBA measurement but merely a measurement by his wife. Rob has the three listings (Kobe, Barkley and Jordan) backwards. Kobe's the tallest one, then Barkley, then Jordan.
said on 26/Jul/18
I think over 6ft 5 is correct
viper said on 26/Jul/18
The Campbell pic is something. You could argue he looks 6-3 there
said on 25/Jul/18
Barkley was measured far taller than 6'4 Click Here
Canson said on 25/Jul/18
@Christian: right. And if Calais Campbell measured 6’7 3/4 (morning), he would be 6’7 1/4 maybe 3/8 at a low. Next to Barkley he honestly looks about 194cm maybe 6’4.5 absolute best case but I also wouldn’t rule out him being my height
Canson said on 24/Jul/18
@Christian: it wouldn’t surprise me if the 6’4 7/8 is made up. They’ve never done 1/8” increments at the combine. They simply could’ve made a mistake with 6’4 5/8 and used 7/8 instead. Nonetheless, it’s more valid than 6’5.5. People here are taking his “shoe claims” and him talking as it’s his actual measurement since they don’t want to admit the other celebs really aren’t as tall as they claim imho. I think 6’5.5 may be a valid shoe height in a 1” sneaker
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 22/Jul/18
It makes no sense to put Barkley at 6'5.5" when he had 6'4 5/8", 6'4.75" and 6'4 7/8" measurements. That Michael Che guy is nowhere near as tall as 6'1.5"
said on 21/Jul/18
6’7.6 morning measured Calais Campbell with Barkley. Even taking into account camera advantage, Barkley still is 3 solid inches shorter than Campbell
Colberto said on 21/Jul/18
Rob I saw him on snl and amazed by how tall he is. Michael Che is listed everywhere around 6'1 1/2" 187cm. He looked 5" shorter. He doesn't have the celeb heights official but there's too much of a difference. He's got to be 6'5" at least imo. I guess 6'5 1/2". I may be wrong and that's 3/4" higher than your listing. I just think there's too much of a difference between him and Michael Che. 3 1/2" difference is impossible. Michael Che is under his eye level by about an inch.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 16/Jul/18
Rock stand a little distant away from camera that put Barkley adavantage to look extra inch higher. 6-6.5cm between them.
said on 11/Jul/18
Rob, only 6 cm different? Barkley and The Rock
More in their photo, but I feel Rock half the time isn't standing tall.
Canson said on 5/Jul/18
@Junior: tough to say. With Snoop and Barkley he looks under 6’0” even with Cp and Steph curry he does. Barkley and Snoop don’t look that much different in terms of height compared to Harvey.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 5/Jul/18
@Canson Maybe true with the camera advantage. Harvey is most likely 6'0 even not that low @5'11 1/2. That extra 1/2 inch he get from Rob i still can't manage to see it.
Canson said on 4/Jul/18
@Junior: Barkley and Snoop both looked taller than their listings but because they had camera advantages with Harvey. Harvey also is nowhere near 6’0.5 today. I’d be surprised if he even hits 6’0” still. Really 5’11.5-6’ now
Junior Hernandez 1990
said on 4/Jul/18
Barkley look about 6'5 3/4 with 6'0.5" Steve Harvey. Click Here
Canson said on 3/Jul/18
@Junior: yea it’s estimation but then the people who are around him regularly like other ballers all say he’s 6’4”. I don’t think he’s flat 6’4” but I could almost believe his 6’4 7/8 or 3/4 as a height an hour or two out of bed and be 6’4.5 at a low. Best case maybe 194.5. He isn’t that close (in my estimation and opinion) to 6’5” or else people would never guess him that low
Rising - 174 cm said on 3/Jul/18
@Canson: Well "more like" 6'4 5/8" could mean 6'4 7/8" since it could be taken to mean 6'4" and a very precise fraction so they could easily be the same. Neither is official, but the 6'4 7/8" does at least say he was measured that height while the 6'4 5/8" doesn't say for sure where the figure comes from. I agree that it makes it sound like Magic and Barkley were measured, but it could have come from a claim Barkley made at the press conferences pre-Olympics. I haven't changed my mind on Barkley, but if you believe Barkley's claim that he measured 6'4 3/4" and 6'5" then that fits in between those figures perfectly.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 3/Jul/18
@Canson It's just all estimation. Barkley looking 6'5-6'5 1/2 range with all celebrities was a fact. We can kill off 1/4 from what Barkley look min 6'5 on all variety show he attend. He really does look 195cm with Shaq middle claimed 7'0. There is no way he is only 6'4-6'4.5" that will put a guy like Kirk Fox and Joe Manganiello down to 6'4 and nothing which mean Rob often cover up 2cm for all celebrity he met.
Canson said on 28/Jun/18
@Rising: and a hip replacement
@Junior: yea I can buy Barkley measuring that but it’s no different from them saying 6’4 5/8 and it could even be the same one just different number by mistake. I use the opposite stance of why do people who played with him call him 6’4 or 6’4.5? I would have an easier time believing it if this were 6’4.75, 6’4.5, 6’5, as they are all 1/4 and solid. 1/8 not happening In the NBA. If somehow that is his I can believe morning height like other players are measured and they listed him 6’5 on his pre draft as that’s how it would work. This could explain 6’4 5/8 at a low
said on 27/Jun/18
@Rob: yea I see what you’re saying but just because it says “official” means nothing. He could’ve been measured something like 6’4 5/8 officially and they could’ve made a mistake and said 7/8”. I say that because the NBA doesn’t use 1/8” increments when they measure. I would have an easier time if he had measured a flat 6’5 “officially” or even 6’5.25 or .5 and they listed him like that and it would be more believable to me than 6’4 7/8. At least 6’4 5/8 was mentioned in the SI article and most people guess him Lower than 6’5”
It could have referred to a measurement that wasn't the NBA, I believe that sports writer was Philly based, so maybe he knew about it? But generally I feel he has looked close enough to 6ft 5 to give him that mark.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 27/Jun/18
Rising - 174 cm said on 27/Jun/18
@Canson: You're right that we don't know it's official, but it's different than the 6'4 5/8" because that writer says the world learned Barkley "was more" like 6'4 5/8" than 6'6". It doesn't specifically state how they learned that(could be from Barkley himself) or that it was specifically 6'4 5/8". Saying more like 6'4 5/8" could mean 6'4 3/4" or 6'4 7/8". But what I will say is it's not much different than Pat Riley claiming Jordan measured 6'4.5". It's basically the same kind of info. Unfortunately with Barkley, this was never settled with an on camera measurement while he was still young enough for us to rule out shrinking. It'd still be interesting to see, but as an overweight 55 year old with a history of back and knee problems and bad posture, we wouldn't know if Barkley is still at his peak height if he were to be measured today in 2018.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 27/Jun/18
Looking at the upgrade of 1/8 now we knwo why Barkley look an easy 6'5 with celebrities. Jordan and Barkley should be the same height. Jordan was measure at 6'4.88 (195.27cm) so literally no difference from Barkley if put them both bareoot back to back. I read up ona forum that Fiba claim to measure Kobe at 196cm. Not sure true or not. Time of measurement can be the argue topic.
Canson said on 27/Jun/18
@Rising: if he measured 6’4 7/8 at a low that is his true height. Even if that 6’4.88 is an extreme low would mean he is a touch over 6’5 or a flat 6’5. The thing that Rob posted is no more official than the 6’4 5/8 from the olympics as it is someone saying that “he measured it”.
straightahead said on 27/Jun/18
Look up video "EJ's Neat-O Stat Of The Night: Arm Wrestling" Barkley just edges out Devon Larratt, barely
Canson said on 26/Jun/18
That’s odd because the NBA doesn’t do 1/8”’increments and back then not even sure about 1/4, 1/2, 3/4. It’s really no more official than the “6’4 5/8” everyone else balks af
said on 26/Jun/18
@Rob: do you have a link? That’s interesting