How tall is Kobe Bryant

Kobe Bryant's Height

6ft 4.75in (194.9 cm)

American retired basketball player, who played for the Los Angeles Lakers. He once claimed "I'm 6 foot 6", in 1998 said "This growth spurt better come fast. Really fast. Say, by tonight. I'm 6-7...Barely 6-7" and also joked with a kid that "Everyone thinks I'm 6 feet 7 inches tall. But just between you and me, I'm really 6-4.". In another article from 2008 it quoted him saying "I'm probably 6-5 in sneaks," and that his wife "had prodded him by saying she suspected the same thing - and measured her husband at home one day at 6-4 3/4."

How tall is Kobe Bryant
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I'm 5'4" and Kobe is 6'4" and 3/4 to be exact. 😊I know this because I didn't think he was as tall as the announcer said he is so I measured him (without shoes) however, he is 6'6" with his Nikes on. - Vanessa Bryant

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Average Guess (93 Votes)
6ft 5.14in (195.9cm)
Canson said on 7/Oct/17
@MrTblack: exactly! And Kobe is taller than MJ is. I can believe 195 for him and 194 for Jordan
MrTBlack said on 5/Oct/17
@Canson and Christian

Agreed. I was arguing with my coworkers on Kobe’s height and they were adamant he was 6’6” and I said “he claimed 6’5”, how can he be taller than what he claimed?” Their response was “because it makes him that much better” lol. Either way, he’s basically 6’5” and that’s insanely tall either way.
Canson said on 5/Oct/17
@Christian: I’ve come to the conclusion that people just don’t have good perceptions of height in general. I know a guy who lives in my area that is a bartender that claims 6’4 (says he’s 6’3.75) and is some days just as tall as my legit 6’3” friend other days when he’s been on his feet can be shorter. He is forever asking people if they are an inch or two taller than they claim to be. Then when another guy told him he himself was 6’4” and he wasn’t he copped an attitude with him. I know the bt well and he has always thought I was at least 6’5” and I clearly said I’m 6’4 1/2 (gave him benefit of the doubt) and he wasn’t likely over 6’3” as he and my buddy were eye level at best
Canson said on 5/Oct/17
@Christian: yep the same reason people believe I am 6’6” and you are 6’7” and SJh 6’8-6’9 when we are 6’4 6’5 6’7 all because others lie so the embellish us to make the math work
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 4/Oct/17
@Slim 6'

Agree 100%. Annoyed by some of the people on this site who inflate guys like Kobe to legit 6'6" so that they can make the other celeb taller. Same thing with some of the wrestlers.
Canson said on 4/Oct/17
@Slim: not sure if he was measured on a stadio but agreed. Most inflate him because he makes other guys claims unbelievable. It's always an excuse about him measuring after a game or a long day. Most people don't even comprehend what rob says in that your lowest height is actually not far from your absolute low maybe 1/4" typically away they will say he or Barkley are actually 1/2" taller which is bs
Slim 6' said on 4/Oct/17
Guys, stadiometres don't lie. He's listed perfectly, stop trying to inflate him fanboys.
Canson said on 30/Sep/17
@Johnson: yea Mike Conley is short for NBA standards. May actually not be much over 5'11" really but doubt he's under that. I don't see a good pic with he and CP3 to compare tho as they are prob close in height in reality
Johnson said on 29/Sep/17
forget the last message about Conley... it is obvious he looks so short because he is not even 6 feet and Marc Gasol almost 7 feet so it's bound to be tiny with him
Johnson said on 29/Sep/17
But When I see Marc Gasol and Mike Conley... Conley looks so short, less than 5'11.75
Canson said on 29/Sep/17
@Johnson: I agree with you! I think Pau is solid 7'.marc is probably 6'11 range. I used to think they were the same height but pay is maybe taller by a 1/2" or so. Zach Randolph is 6'7" and Marc looks 4-5" taller imho. In some pics it looks 4 or so. He's up to eyebrows really. So maybe strong 6'11.
Johnson said on 27/Sep/17
@Canson what do you think about Marc Gasol height?

I think Pau edges him out by 1.5 cm.
Canson said on 17/Sep/17
There aren't any good pics of them to compare where he is not favored by the camera. If you look cam with steph curry and Kobe with curry they look about the same. They both look about 195cm. Cam measured 6'5 but the combine is also held in the morning. I'd say he's 196.5 up to 197 out of bed 194.5 up to 195 at night similar to Kobe
Wayne said on 15/Sep/17
how comes he is taller than 6'5 measured Cam Newton ? something wrong here
Canson said on 12/Sep/17
@Johnson: according to Anthony Davis they are supposedly. Whether that is 100% true Is a question. Whether they measure barefoot is another
Johnson said on 11/Sep/17
Are basketball players measured every year? Anyone knows?
Canson said on 11/Sep/17
@Johnson: I can't tell from that pic to be honest because of Rubio and his hair. I do know tho that KROC another poster here has met Rubio before and said he isn't over 6'1". Don't know how he is listed 6'4. But 6'1" could mean strong 6'1" as well which I would've assumed he's at least that and that Lilliard is a weak 6'1" based on how he looks
Canson said on 10/Sep/17
The difference with Kobe and strahan is at most a solid inch more likely just max 2cm here. Strahan is not 190cm. He's at worst a full 6'4. Strahan has always had a bit of hair so maybe he's more like 193 vs almost 194 but he also looks 6'4" with Eli as well.

Strahan 193cm
Kobe 195cm as listed

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Johnson said on 9/Sep/17
Rubio and Lillard

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Perhaps 1.5 cm taller Rubio
Canson said on 8/Sep/17
@Johnson: likely Rubio. Lilliard looks to struggle at a flat 6'1" to be honest. He looks a weak 6'1". He's shorter than Almost all the other point guards in that class except Thomas and CP3
Johnson said on 7/Sep/17
How tall is Ricky Rubio? He claimed 190 but he looks similar to Lillard. Who is taller Lillard or Rubio?
Canson said on 28/Aug/17
@Rising: again same height here too. Point I was making I. The last pic is if you stood Jordan behind Barkley he would be taller in your pic

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Canson said on 28/Aug/17
@Rising: what about this pic then? As I mentioned if ou are going to use one like that then you have to have them side by side or we would just be simply using whatever supports our theory. If Barkley had his head straight they would be identical in height

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Rising - 174 cm said on 27/Aug/17
@Canson: I don't see Barkley favored. In fact, Jordan is closer to the camera, although I think it's negligible. But I see at least 2 cm. 1 cm wouldn't be as clear, imo and Barkley's pointy head makes the difference a bit larger than it would be at eye level. The difference between the 2 could be a bit less than that in reality, but I see 2 cm in that pic.
Anthony said on 27/Aug/17
I've seen you guys are very bad at judging height .Strahan looks no more than 190cm with kobe .He is no more than 6ft3 in that pic.
Canson said on 23/Aug/17
@JJ: my apology Rising Christian and I were talking Barkley and forgot it was kobe's page. If Kobe measured 6'4.75 he can't be 6'7".
Canson said on 23/Aug/17
@Rising: only thing is that's not 2cm. It's 1cm or half inch. And because Barkley is favored in the pic due to where he is standing. If you reverse where Jordan and Barkley stand Jordan then becomes taller. I highly doubt Jordan when he is guessed 6'4" as regularly as he is is as high as 6'4.75 at his lowest. He would always be guessed 6'5" if he were especially when he chooses to wear high footwear. also he is shorter than kobe. Jordan could be as low as 194cm flat maybe as high as 194.3-194.5. I'd call him 6'4.5 max. But again he's not 2 cm on Michael either. If you see President Obama putting the medal on him it's at most 4". Could even be 3.5". I put president Obama 6'0.75 at his lowest which fits the "roughly 6'1" he measured. It's tough guaging him because he was said to have measured "roughly 6'1" and it alluded to in shoes and clothes for his weight but don't see why he would take shoes off for one but not the other. Then says he was 6'1.5 on a different. Looking at Obama next to a 6'1.5 max steph curry that's still a 2cm difference between them. Curry comparing him with Jarrett jack is 2cm to an inch difference meaning he could be 186-186.5 like Others have said on his page before taking into account he could be less after a game like Shane mentioned before. Looking at curry with draymond green looks 4" or at worst maybe 3.75.

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By the way in the last pic accounting for the fact Barkley has his head tilted downward which raises his crown upward they look the same height almost to a T Worst case is 1/4" difference. Like Christian has said Barkley claimed 6'4.75 so he's not higher than that and my guess is 6'4.5-.75 somewhere since he measured 5/8 once
Canson said on 22/Aug/17
The best comparisons of him are with Brandon Roy who is about 196 (no worse than 6'5" flat) as well as Caron butler (he's a legit 196) both of whom I have met both accurately listed on their pre drafts and both edge Kobe by a tiny fraction like a .25" or a cm
Canson said on 22/Aug/17
@Christian: well said!
Canson said on 22/Aug/17
@JJ: it's the other way around. If he measured 6'4 5/8 he can't be 6'7". People "assume" he's 6'7" because of the bs mugshot people use where he is as Rob mentioned above the camera level. That adds height to him. Pending footwear he could be max 6'6" in shoes if he has something with a high sole. That's only an inch and a 6'4.5 guy easily can he 6'6" in shoes. Trust me I am "about" that height myself and can easily get up 1.5" in some shoes with padding. I'd be willing to be money if I stood next to Barkley that he wouldn't edge me out noticeably maybe 1/8-1/4" whereas if I stood next to Kobe he would likely have me nearly by a cm imho. But having stood next to Caron butler he is taller than Kobe is and Kobe looks like he is 195cm next to a 196 guy whereas Barkley looks a bit shorter next to Kobe
Canson said on 22/Aug/17
@JJ: it's the other way around. If he measured 6'4 5/8 he can't be 6'7". People "assume" he's 6'7" because of the bs mugshot people use where he is as Rob mentioned above the camera level. That adds height to him. Pending footwear he could be max 6'6" in shoes if he has something with a high sole. That's only an inch and a 6'4.5 guy easily can he 6'6" in shoes. Trust me I am "about" that height myself and can easily get up 1.5" in some shoes with padding. I'd be willing to be money if I stood next to Barkley that he wouldn't edge me out noticeably maybe 1/8-1/4" whereas if I stood next to Kobe he would likely have me nearly by a cm
Rising - 174 cm said on 22/Aug/17
@Christian: This is the best photo I've seen of Barkley and Jordan and not surprisingly, he has 2 cm on Jordan: Click Here

We don't have to wonder about footwear or ground as we see it there and Jordan is even closer to the camera. The shortest I'd give Jordan is 6'4.75", which makes Barkley look 6'5.5" there. In fact, Jordan could look 6'5.5" himself with a roughly 6'1" Obama, but I won't argue anything over 6'5" for Jordan either.

@Canson: Photos can definitely be off, that's why on the more controversial heights I try to limit the evidence I post to videos and full photos when possible. Of course when you don't have videos, series of photos are ideal as well. I do agree that if a measurement just doesn't look right, it probably isn't and time of day and other possible factors should be considered, but personally I need stronger evidence than anecdotes to give someone much less(or more) than they're measured. I would agree that both photos and anecdotes can be misleading. But I think I'm being pretty careful to avoid dodgy photos now. But as far as anecdotes I can tell you probably a half dozen years ago or so, this girl who either claimed 5'6.75" or 5'6.5" and was probably about what she claimed asked me how tall I was and then insisted she was taller than me. She even had me stand to up to compare and I was naturally clearly taller than her, but she still insisted somehow she was taller than me. I couldn't believe it because you'd think that after we actually compared it would have been apparent, but some people have no perception of height. What annoyed me is I asked everyone else who was around to back me up and nobody would get involved. I could understand thinking I'm a bit shorter than I am if it's a day where my arthritic knees or lower back pain are acting up, but after standing up to compare, it was inexplicable she didn't realize she was clearly shorter than me. Rest assured, I'm not another Glenn who is actually under 5'7"!
JJ said on 22/Aug/17
If everyone thinks he's 6'7, then he can't be 6'4.75
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 21/Aug/17

Here, Barkley's standing closer to the camera and he's still shorter than Jordan even with Jordan having worse posture. Click Here It might've been footwear difference involved in it, but this is proof that Barkley's isn't that much taller than Jordan (who's 6'4.5") if equal footwear, because I can't think of an instance where one guy would have footwear advantage of more than an inch on another guy, unless if he was wearing lifts or platforms, which I'm sure Jordan just wouldn't do. My speculation is that Jordan wore 1.75" work boots while Barkley wore 0.75" casual shoes.
And for the pic that you posted Click Here the stairs that the players were standing on is clearly uneven. The guys on the left half were standing on higher ground than the guys on the right, as evidenced by 6'4.5" Chris Mullin only looking 3.5" shorter than Larry Bird, making Bird look 6'8" when in actuality he's 6'9". If you look closely, you can even tell that Mullin's feet are sitting higher than Bird's. So the guys on the left had an inch advantange. This is why Barkley looked about an inch taller than Jordan.
Canson said on 20/Aug/17
@Rising: I agree with part of your response to Christian. However across this site and I'm certainly not directing this at you because you are just throwing out a hypothetical in this situation as you also acknowledged that he can look 6'4.75. but people say Kobe or Barkley or someone else may have been under measured which is possible but that close to the mark 1/4" isn't that easy to spot honestly. That is usually a cop out because they "out" those who really aren't as tall as they claim. As for video and Picture comparisons Christian said this a long time ago actually and I agree with him that many of them are useless. I have a pic that I took once with my 6'3 friend and he appears taller at minimum same but he looks taller according to others that saw when I'm actually 3+ cm taller than he is (he's 6'3" on the nose whereas I am more like 1.3" taller). An example is below. Adam Silver is 6'3" yet appears taller than Iggy and Draymond. Draymond after hearing what I have now I believe is one where the pre draft is a bit higher than should be as I doubt he is over a flat 6'5" after hearing the GM and seeing the pics I have. The second pic with silver that's a big if if that is a full 2" but he does edge Kobe slightly (1/4" or a full cm max but he also has a tiny bit of hair Kobe doesn't so Draymond could even dip a mm or two under at night) as well. Also possible Silver could be 1/8" over or that draymond is a full 2" on him

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JJ said on 19/Aug/17
He's taller than Jordan
Canson said on 19/Aug/17
Interesting stat here. Former GM of the Warriors says that Green is the 3rd shortest player on GS after curry and Clark. Yet Thompson Iggy and him are all pre draft listed 6'5.75. Iggy doesn't look above that if even with Shaun Livingston.

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Rising - 174 cm said on 18/Aug/17
@Christian: Actually, I have Kobe at more 6'5". I said it's possible he might drop to 6'4.75" as well, but it's also possible Vanessa made a fraction error measuring someone more than a foot taller than herself. And it's easy, Barkley and Kobe can both look taller in legit video and full picture comparisons, but Kobe sometimes looks shorter as well. Barkley almost always looks 6'5.5" to me, but Kobe can look a weak 6'5" or even 6'4.5" at times as well as 6'5.5". Barkley has more of a clear height advantage over Jordan: Click Here while Kobe is much closer: Click Here The difference is small enough that it could just be a footwear advantage. And if you remember those Barkley/Wade commercials from 10 years ago, Barkley was much taller than Wade. Here are a couple of stills: Click Here If anyone wants, I can post the video those are from, but Barkley clearly seemed about a couple of inches taller. Kobe could look solidly taller than Wade at times, but other times - even in a full pic - he could struggle to look an inch taller: Click Here

I can believe Wade's 6'3.75" measurement, or at worst, he's a fraction below it, imo, which still puts Barkley around 6'5.5". At this point, I'm almost exclusively posting full pics and videos for Barkley because he's controversial enough that we have to maintain a height quality with comparisons.

Actually, Magic can look even shorter than 6'7" at times with Kobe. But I believe Harden to be 6'4" or very close to it.

@Canson: I actually agree he didn't know his exact height, otherwise, why would Vanessa bother measuring him? But I do think he probably knew he was taller than 6'4" at the time as well regardless of whether he knew his exact height.
Canson said on 16/Aug/17
@Junior: because magic and harden aren't as tall as they are advertised to be. Magic is 2-2.5" taller than Kobe and Magic is closer to 6'7 maybe a hair over than listed here. Look at Harden next to a 6'9" Dwight Howard and tell me he is really 6'4? Likely was a morning height that was rounded up to 6'4. Otherwise looks 6'3.25.
Canson said on 15/Aug/17
@Rising: but he told that kid that later in his career. He said he was 6'5" on Leno as a 19 year old. Where I heard he didn't know really how tall he was was in an article where it also mentioned he is 6'4.75 as measured by Vanessa in 2008 I believe. I think him saying he's only 6'4" was him rounding down from 6'4.75 and essentially like you said him saying he's not 6'7". He's closer to 6'5" than 6'4" I will say. But I saw on the net where he told some camp attendees that he is 6'4.5 barefoot and in shoes and triple socks 6'6".but you're right he did skip the pre draft. I believe 6'4.75 would be an afternoon height and he'd prob be close to 197 out of bed if not right there. He would likely be 195 at night or slightly under it. This is going off two or two and half hours out of bed that I lose about half inch myself.
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 15/Aug/17

I don't know how you can have Kobe at 6'4.75" but at the same time still have Barkley at 6'5.5"
Junior said on 14/Aug/17
Under 6'5.25 was a joke. 6'4 James Harden look 6'3.5 and 6'7.5" Magic Johnson look just 6'7 with Kobe.
Rising - 174 cm said on 13/Aug/17
@Canson: Kobe skipped the pre-draft camp, iirc, so it's likely they didn't bother with a precise measurement. Also, if Kobe did know exactly, it wouldn't make too much sense Vanessa would bother measuring him. That may be why Kobe told the kid he was 6'4". He may have just known he was nowhere near 6'7" and been exaggerating to make it sound like he was letting the kid on more of a secret. I tend to accept pre-draft measurements until they're proven questionable. If someone just looks nowhere near it then I'll say it was probably in the morning, a shoe measurement that got listed barefoot, included hair or some other error. I had always figured Wade was 6'3.75" and still think it's possible, but I was surprised when I started hearing jokes about Wade's height during the big 3 era. Francis always reminded me of Westbrook, or at least Westbrook is the type of player I thought Francis should have been, but it doesn't mean they're the same height of course. I think Carter looks to edge Kobe, though. Seeing Carter and Kobe with T-Mac, it's obvious he's nowhere near 6'9" or 6'10". Even Kobe called T-Mac 6'9", but that'd mean he was about 4 inches taller than Kobe. When they posed back to back, there was maybe 1.5" or something like that. Maybe T-Mac is 6'7" and slouches, but his wingspan makes people exaggerate his height, much like Durant as he's really only a 6'8" in shoes type guy, similar to Lebron.
Canson said on 11/Aug/17
@Rising: agree with what you said. I think in more likehood it's that Kobe didn't know exactly how tall he was either. He mentioned once he never exactly knew. He may not have even known he was 6'4.75. Coming up as a prospect he likely would be told he's just 6'5" in many cases as more height is better. Or possible he measured at solid 6'5 (earlier in the day) previously. I ageee he likely was boosted to 6'7" tho because of his hair and the fact that when he was he was playing the 3. That's when Eddie Jones was still there and both started. He was back to 6'6" later on. Same happened with Vince carter he was listed 6'7" before too when he played 3. But put back at 6'6" as a 2 which is why I have to believe Richard Jefferson saying he's 6'4.5-6'5" as Kobe and Vince look the same height essentially. Maybe Vince is 6'5" but doubt over that. I challenge validity of pre drafts because of what I've seen over the years such as Wall that I mentioned as well as Wade and Steve Francis. My former AAU coach has met Francis more times than I can count and he himself is 6'2" and Francis appeared shorter than him in the pics they had years back (maybe 15-20 years ago) and he even said he was about 1/2" or so shorter. Francis has a 6'2.5. Think he's an inch shorter. Of course this isn't all pre drafts but some. I don't know how this was done in all cases but I've heard of thicker socks etc or could be bust a gut like rob likes to call it. Francis looks that way on the court as well when he played didn't strike me as being as tall as a guy like Russell Westbrook or Jarrett Jack the latter I've played against and he's actually a legit 188-189 guy so close enough to the 6'2.5 as he's easily a guy who may more likely be over 6'2" rather than under it
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Aug/17
It gets harder to pinpoint a height difference when the difference is a half foot or bigger, but I see over 6, possibly 7 inches between Kobe and Leno. That explains why Kobe was listed 6'7" for a few years(was it 1999-2002?) I agree with 179-180 as a likely range for Leno. I wouldn't go over a flat 5'11", but there was always a debate with Jay. Some insisted he was the perfect example of a 5'11" man while others always thought he was closer to 5'10". I really don't know myself, to be honest, but I'd be pretty surprised if he wasn't at least 5'10.5" peak and I'd also be surprised if he was taller than a flat 5'11" in the afternoon. 6 feet is just the height Leno always claimed to be. People around 5'11" will claim that 9 times out of 10 as you see from Leo DiCaprio, Joe Mantegna and others. A 5'11" claim is often a hint they're really shorter than a full 5'11". I think Kobe is about 6'5" in all likelihood. There are times he manages to look taller, more in that 6'5.5"+ range, but he has looked no more than his 195 cm measurement by his wife, such as these 3 pics with Dwyane Wade: Click Here First 2 are from 2007 and the last one looks like 2009. Keep in mind, I'm even accepting Wade's 6'3.75" measurement in this comparison since Kobe winds up looking an inch at most taller in these 3 pics. I guess the taller and relatively shorter appearances cancel each other out. If anything, I'd reverse Kobe and Jordan's listings, though as I think they looked nearly identical side by side, but would have guessed Kobe was the taller one if they weren't the same exact height. Regardless Canson is right in that claiming 6'5" doesn't contradict the 6'4.75" as many will round up even half inches and the vast majority will round up a quarter inch.
Canson said on 3/Aug/17
@SJH: I highly doubt Leno was really 6'0". Maybe 5'10.5 or 5'11. Weak 5'11 which he can look with Kobe
S.J.H said on 2/Aug/17

More than i have to agree it and a 19 years old Kobe making a peak Jay Leno look no more than 5'10.25
Canson said on 2/Aug/17
maybe he got measured at 6'5" before (a few hours earlier in the AM) and measured the 6'4.75 later in the afternoon or it could've been a round up. Face it there is no diff in appearance if not any objects to compare him to. A 195cm guy is gonna claim 6'5" 9 out of 10 times as is a legit 6'5". But leads me to believe he's really about 195 at his lowest vs an earlier and can look a good example of 195cm
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In this interview at 0:58 Kobe says hes 6'5"
Editor Rob: all of a sudden 6-7...I presume with the hair 😑
Canson said on 31/Jul/17
Kobe 195 afternoon maybe evening
Jordan 194-194.5 at his lowest
Barkley 194.3-194.7 at his low
even said on 20/Jul/17
195 cm
Canson said on 17/Jul/17
@Christian: that's how I see it too. Kobe appears taller almost always in pics. If Jordan were your height (strong 6'5") Reggie Miller would be closer in height with him and wouldn't class him as 6'4/6'5 like he did. Miller looks a sub 6'6" next to Jalen Rose or Penny Hardaway both of which messueed 6'6" on their pre drafts (I'd presume that's a low for rose tho).
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 17/Jul/17
I don't get why some are still saying that Jordan's taller than Kobe, maybe they just base it on Rob's listing of the two, which I have to disagree. I think Kobe's a fraction inch taller than MJ.
Canson said on 14/Jul/17
I'd say Kobe as listed 6'4.75 and Jordan 6'4.5. Kobe actually looks more like 1/2" taller at times. Jordan just was bigger later in his career and longer limbs which makes him appear taller than he is. I can see Kobe being taller in person than me if I were to see him but MJ I prob wouldn't be able to tell.
Brad said on 12/Jul/17
Jordan is a strong 6' 5". I'd see MJ edging him out by a fraction. I wonder what job he'll be at next season.
Canson said on 11/Jul/17
Meant to say don't see Jordan taller than Kobe.
Canson said on 10/Jul/17
@Brad: i don't see Jordan shorter than Kobe. even if it is as Rob has them that's 1/4" difference so not noticeable. Kobe from what some say looks 6'5 whereas Jordan is guessed by some 6'4" range.
Canson said on 10/Jul/17
@Brad: i don't see Jordan shorter than Kobe. even if it is that's 1/4" difference so not that noticeable. Kobe from what some say looks 6'5 whereas Jordan is guessed by some 6'4" range.
Brad said on 9/Jul/17
I saw the best baller ever at a small court just north of Bleeker on 6th in NYC in '76. Joe Destroyer Hammond. A pass the hat game. He tore it up...big time, even as a druggy. The Lakers should have offered more money than 50G in '71. Lies about his height, 6' 3" no way, Kobe eats him up side to side. Kobe is shorter than MJ...Barkley is tough to call, he gained weight and his height went down.
Canson said on 8/Jul/17
@Brad: agree on him think he'd edge MJ back to back or Barkley
Brad said on 7/Jul/17
As listed.
Canson said on 24/Jun/17
@Christian: I thought he was but you raise a great point sometimes he can appear maybe weak 6'3 but maybe angle. But I will say LOL, if he's under that's really bad news for Deangelo Russell. His leer draft shows 6'3.25 and he's shorter than Silver very noticeably which is why I always say that I don't trust the pre drafts esp when Silver has come out and said he's himself is 6'3" not any higher and you're right could be a hair less too
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 23/Jun/17

Do you think that Silver is even a legit 6'3"? He looks a bit under it, just my two cents.
Canson said on 22/Jun/17
@Christian: that's actually a good thing it was progressive as it makes it easier to adjust and ease into your body. 6'5" is a lot to support.

On a side note: did you see the draft? Lol all these guys that come up and stand next to Adam Silver who's 6'3! Some of these supposed 6'4 or 6'5 guys look his height that I've seen
Spencer said on 22/Jun/17
He looks 6'6
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 22/Jun/17

Yeah I never had a sudden major spurt. I grew steadily for the most part.
Canson said on 21/Jun/17
@Christian: you grew actually pretty evenly spread! I was around about 5'3 in 5th grade, then was prob 5'6 around beginning of 7th or end of 6th grade. I shot up to 5'11 right after my 13th birthday I believe, then was 6'0" midway maybe Fall my 8th grade year I believe and maybe 6'1" when I graduated Middle School. Then in high school hit 6'2 as a freshman and was 6'3.5-6'4 by early junior year I think and a legit 6'4" midway through. I always figured I was done growing at 6'4". Funniest part is most of my measurements I believe were typically either later morning (3-5 hours out of bed) or maybe afternoon so even a 6'4 measurement may still net me 6'3.75 lol. But the 6'4" was prob spot on at that point as I was exactly the same height as my Dad then when we stood back to back. I remember being 6'4 still my senior year (I think) then maybe grew a hair as I was a hair over him around end my freshman year of college where I was supposedly 6'4 1/2. But was 6'4.75 like an hour or less out of bed next time I measured either during the summer or my sophomore year. I think by then I had finished though at 18. You must have grown a lot after your senior year in high school into Your early college! That's 2-2.5" which is a lot. When I was a kid I always wanted to be 6'5" at one point then got into high school and played forward and some guard and actually was thinking I'm cool at 6'4" and was happy since I could still play guard at that size and be a Good size for a 2. i do agree with what you said tho as I also agree with my taller friends that 6'3" is almost perfect for a tall person and if any taller 6'4 is ideal. And 6'5" is about as good as it gets for most if they want to be very tall because you can wear Timbs etc and not have many doorway problems (my 6'5 and change friend also wears them some days himself but really only when it's cold or he is around people his height or taller like the others we hang with). Generally I've also seen him in flats or Casual shoes as well. He doesn't complain about his height like the other two though lol and he wakes up somewhere over 6'6" in the morning from what he said too and is around your height 196.2-.5
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 21/Jun/17

I never played ball in college myself, only did from the 7th grade to my junior year in high school. Not saying I didn't enjoy playing ball, but I started to focus on other things, and I felt that going on to become a college or pro basketball player wasn't the ideal choice for my future. Anyways, I played mostly small or power forward because I was mostly one of the tallests in my class (about 5'9" in 7th grade then grew to 6'3" in the 11th, and I kept on growing until my freshman year in college when I was 19).
Btw, what was your growing pattern like Canson? I remember you once said you were 6'0" at 13 yrs old, which is even taller than me because I was only 5'9"-5'10" at that age.
Canson said on 20/Jun/17
@Christian: I played both, but a lot more at small forward in the last couple years. It was a smaller school. But when I played guard mostly in my freshman year I was listed 6'5" initially and think I was maybe a true strong 6'4" barefoot then. I was boosted to 6'6" well before the midway point of the season and was that the remainder of my time. I measured 6'4.5 in the morning at that point like an hour out of bed or two hours out the first year.I also got measured 6'4.75 another time then 6'4.5 again (may have been later in the day). I didn't realize it varied back then I assumed it was a bad measurement the 6'4.75 as I was never more than maybe 1/2" taller than my father and at times it appeared closer. I was 6'4" my senior year of high school and still claimed and thought it was all I was. I played 3 mostly in high school.

when I first got here on the site, I initially thought I was 194-195 as I didn't measure properly (or because my hair was a bit longer than last summer) when I got 194 flat and have continuously gotten that in the afternoon since. May also the fact that I measured on free days where I was laying around some and didn't know my actual low until I measured on a day when I had been at work.

As for guys like Iggy he played both for a while. I remember when philly drafted Kyle Korver and he played interchangeably with Iggy . I'm curious as to how tall Iggy is. He can look a weak or even full 6'6" barefoot because of how he is built but Height pointed out once that he thought he was shorter than draymond and I saw it now that they maybe similar. But when I see Iggy with Chris Webber it's at most (imho) a 3" difference. I estimate Webber more 6'8.5 than a full 6'9" only because I've heard people that have seen him say he's 6'8-6'9 in person and saw Mo Cheeks refer to that when he was benched in favor of Dalembert when he was in Philly not to mention guys like Spencer Haywood say he's not as tall as he expected him to be (maybe assuming he was really 6'10). Barkley I thought all along (at least since I heard and saw him admit that he was 6'4") but the 6'4" is him just saying he's not really 6'6". He's not as flat as 193. Rob's listing could fit him actually just as for your case you use the 196.5 listing he may only drop to 6'4 5/8 or at worst 1/2". Same with LJ and Spoon too both are small as power forwards. LJ when I met him in college and my 6'5" friend also met him when he played ball and he said they were identical and looked each other in the eye and another buddy of ours that's legit 6'6" (may have been a hair over peak) (the two of them went to college together) said they were the same and that he felt LJ was closer to 6'5 than 6'6. My friend also classes his official height as 6'5.25 like you did as I believe the doctor got him around that and maybe rounded down from 196.3ish in the evening. LJ looked max an inch taller than Me. But I'd say he's 196 range for sure at his lowest and 6'5.5 could be a small hair roundup or a couple hours earlier in the day. I won't hesitate to say he's also 196-196.5 like you are. He also met Witherspoon and said that they were also "about" the same height. He said Spoon shorter in person than on tv. Which makes sense because Spoon was always said to be closed to 6'5 than 6'7.Both were listed 6'7" in their careers.
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 20/Jun/17

Were you a shooting guard during your college days? I'm assuming so because most guys your height play the SG position, although there have been rare cases where 6'6" listed (your height) guys played small forward, such as Andre Iguodala from the Warriors, and even rarer the power forward position, such as Barkley.
Canson said on 20/Jun/17
@Christian: that's correct. Jordan is an example he could be just about 6'6" in a sneaker even afternoon and if he measured a bit earlier would for sure. Also tho when it comes to NBA we saw it with the Blake Griffin video they get measured within 1/2 hour or hour of waking now a days (he got measured around 630 as did steph curry tweeted that year). In your case you most likely would get a 6'7 measurement today as you'd prob get morning 6'5 3/4 and maybe 6'7 1/8 in sneaks maybe a 1/4" over or if afternoon you were right on the money 6'6.75. Is be listed 6'6" like I was in college as I'd get 6'4.75 am hour out then 6'6ish in sneaks or even if I got 6'4 3/8 they'd list it as 6'4.5 then In sneaks 6'5.75 or up then round. If I were maybe a power forward or small forward and expected to be that in the league I could even get listed 6'7" possibly
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 19/Jun/17

I think the reason why NBA heights weren't inflated as much in the early and mid-1900's compared to nowadays, is because of the type of shoes. Back in the day, the standard basketball sneaks were much thinner than they are today. Most players in the mid-1900's wore Converse All Stars, which gives about 0.6" inch of height, compared to today's sneaks that give 1.3-1.4" some even 1.5"+ For example, if I was a NBA player I would've been listed 6'6" back in the day because I would be no more than 6'6" in my Converse, whereas today I would very likely be listed 6'7" because modern bball shoes would take me at least 6'6 5/8" or 6'6.75" which is then rounded up to 6'7".
Canson said on 18/Jun/17
@Rising Force: I see what you're saying but Pierce was not listed 6'6" for long at all. It wasn't that late in his career with KG coming was well before that. He was 6'7" for the bulk of it. Carter I can't remember now but believe it was when He began playing guard permanently maybe after TMAC left. But Pierce He's a full inch over Carter. Carter with Dr J wasn't as tall as he was whereas Truth was prob taller than Dr J was. I remember Richard Jefferson saying Vince was 6'4 1/2, 6'5" on a good day. I'd say he's taller than I am by a hair maybe up to the full 6'5" probably more like Kobes height of 195cm.

I agree with most of your post though. They have become more inflated over time but even in Barkley's day they were inflated as well. At least listed in shoes. Magic strong 6'7" listed 6'9. Rodman strong 6'6" or 6'6.5 listed 6'8, Jordan 6'4.5 listed 6'6 ditto for Barkley Kevin Willis 6'10 (I've met Willis before) listed 7'0". Then of course Larry Johnson (met him as well and he's at most an inch taller than me) I'd say between 6'5.25-6'5.5 and listed 6'7".
Canson said on 18/Jun/17
@Rising Force: I see what you're saying but Pierce was not listed 6'6" for long at all. It wasn't that late in his career with KG coming was well before that. He was 6'7" for the bulk of it. Carter I can't remember now but believe it was when He began playing guard permanently maybe after TMAC left. But Pierce He's a full inch over Carter. Carter with Dr J wasn't as tall as he was whereas Truth was prob taller than Dr J was. I remember Richard Jefferson saying Vince was 6'4 1/2, 6'5" on a good day. I'd say he's taller than I am by a hair maybe up to the full 6'5" probably more like Kobes height of 195cm
RisingForce said on 17/Jun/17
I didn't say he never got listed 6'7" before, I think he was listed 6'7" in Kansas and entering the league. I just meant he was at 6'6" for years, definitely more than a year, much like Vince Carter was 6'7" his first few years, but they dropped him to 6'6" sometime after. Pierce was upgraded again when Garnett was traded to Boston, though Carter remained at 6'6". Carter of course was half an inch shorter, but I'm more making the comparison that both were listed 6'7" and then 6'6". Pierce was primarily playing 2 for most of the early 2000s when 'Toine was there. Might have been 3 in 2001, but then 2 in '02, '03 and '04. But I think you're forgetting that heights have gotten more inflated over time. Even now they're much more inflated for the most part than the 90s/early 2000s with the exception of an excessive case like 6'2" John Starks being listed 6'5". When Barkley entered the league in 1984 for instance, a lot of heights were pretty close or mere round ups and basketball sneakers weren't as thick in general.
Canson said on 16/Jun/17
That would be false Rising Force. He was listed 6'6" for maybe a year when Ron mercer was still there and started with him because Truth played 2 and 3 back then. He's been listed 6'7" as far back as 1999

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RisingForce said on 15/Jun/17
Well Paul Pierce was listed barefoot for a decade so it happens. I agree it's not the norm.
Canson said on 14/Jun/17
Rising force: for a short period of time with Howard. I always saw 6'7" for him and still do today. I don't know how tall he is. Maybe he requested they use his barefoot height just like Durant does. That much is a fact as he told the trainers (it's on the internet). Garnett does the same uses barefoot height. I understand what you are saying but you're using that as a blanket because he was listed that barefoot that others are
RisingForce said on 13/Jun/17
Regardless, Canson, they still rounded down with Howard so it does happen. But as for Kobe, I can accept 6'5" now I think and say maybe he drops another 1/4" to 6'4.75".
STH said on 12/Jun/17
I can still see 6'5.25. I wouldn't pinpoint his own claim as the truth just because most people who claim their height go the other way
Canson said on 10/Jun/17
@Shiva: he for sure would in the morning. I used to be a proponent of 194/195 but have seen more to where he looks a full 6'5" most of the time so 195 likely or maybe 194.85 is his lowest during the day
shiva 181 cms said on 10/Jun/17
Kobe could measure 6'5 on the nose
Canson said on 9/Jun/17
@Rising Force: Barkley was listed at 6'6" long before he played small forward. He played with chuck persons in college who by the way is 6'6.5-6'7 barefoot and clearly a good couple inches taller than Barkley is. Barkley was 6'6" listed in college. As for josh Howard he was listed 6'5" at the end of his career not the beginning. He was always 6'7" then. He "became" 6'5" when he began playing guard when they signed Shawn Marion
RisingForce said on 9/Jun/17
Canson, see the pics I cite as good pics on my latest Barkley page post, since I'm not going to retype the same thing here. I always say that comparisons that aren't full, video or series of pics should should be taken with a grain of salt.

As for using heights as reference, well seeing Kirzinger with Kane Hodder and Rob, I thought 6'5" was fair, but even better if he's shorter because that would just prove my point about head size more. As for Krist, I already explained that I sometimes use Rob's height as a reference. You use other heights that aren't proven as reference as well. It's a normal thing to do on this site. Then if we think a reference height is wrong, we can make our case for it in a rebuttal. Krist wasn't 1.5" taller than Barkley in the SNL appearance anyway, but again that's for the Barkley page.

As for NBA listings, there have been plenty listed at their height w/o shoes and plenty of half inch round ups. On rare occasions, we even see players rounded down from their measured height. For instance, 6'5.25" Josh Howard was listed 6'5" for a while and 6'6" Paul Pierce was listed that most of his career until Garnett and Ray Allen were traded to Boston. Barkley also played small forward at times like '90 and '91 with Mahorn and Gminski and then at times on the Suns with A.C. Green. I maintain Barkley is no less than 6'5.5" and closer to 6'7" than 6'6" in shoes, but I'll keep making that case on the Barkley page.
Canson said on 7/Jun/17
@rising force: both Crawford and Redd received pre draft measurements. Why is Redd's superior to Crawford's? It's also possible Redd is really 6'4.5 or just the same way. In the Nba if someone is at 6'4.51 they can round up. They go even lower sometimes from maybe a solid inch up to 3/4" or could even be that they took place at different times meaning measurements or that one laid down and the other didn't etc. redd is 1/4" shorter than kobe is that's about all. I mean look at the variations in heights with the thousands of people on Rob's site alone over the years. We all measure differently and almost none of us (very few) measure exact on a fraction 1/4" 1/2" 3/4" full inch or even 1/8, 3/8 5/8. One difference with Redd vs Crawford is that redd played some 3 in college whereas Crawford played 1 and 2 in college so he got a measurement that was likely exact and maybe a hair over or under it who knows but 6'5" was tall enough and ideal for him. For Redd he was listed 6'6" at OSU and was the same swing man type as others
Canson said on 7/Jun/17
@Rising Force: but Part of the issue with your comparisons is that you with those types of pics they are no good for comparison but equally bad pictures or worse that Barkley appears taller in are Holy Grail. That's how it is on this site for Many posters tho. and you take listed or self proclaimed heights like Kirzinger or Krist when they may not be accurate. Krist is guessed on his page as 6'6" barefoot not 6'7. Most posters see that. I don't know how tall the former is but Barkley isn't 6'5.5 sorry. That's his height in shoes. If he were really 6'6 or 6'5.5 (being a power forward) where most are 6'8"-6'9 back then or above he would've been listed as 6'7" on the roster not 6'6". 6'6" came because there was no way he would appear 6'7" next to someone who was really 6'6" barefoot or 6'7 or even a guy around 6'5.5-6'6" like Reggie miller. Miller is clearly taller than Barkley as they've stood side by side on Inside the NBA on TNT before and at the mayweather pacquiao fight
RisingForce said on 5/Jun/17
The Crawford comparison is the shorter Kobe we've sometimes seen(with Wade at '07 all-star game as well, he looked about 6'4.5" there) but we can't act like one photo that isn't full nails down Kobe when we have the videos of him with Obama and Magic looking to easily clear 6'5" or the full photo with Kobe side by side visibly taller than 6'4.75" Michael Redd.
RisingForce said on 5/Jun/17
In Barkley's case, the front view looks surprisingly in proportion as Barkley's head looks no bigger than 6'5" Ken Kirzinger at just over 10" and his eye to head is normal for a man that size at 5". If you see the distorted ones, you'll get foot long heads on average height men. Barkley could gain a fraction from the front view, but I don't see 1"-1.5". Now the side view is a different story, Barkley's head is an inch longer than the front view, but for the front view, Robert Downey Jr's mugshot appears to have a lower angle than Barkley's.
Canson said on 5/Jun/17
@Christian: completely understood! I guess for me that's why I claim thev1/2 again now since so many 191-92 claim 6'4. But for me I have taller friends and relatives my height so harder to keep two heights straight in my head lol
Canson said on 3/Jun/17
Rob has already mentioned numerous times that a mugshot on Barkley a taller person where he looks down at the camera (adding height) is not ideal for measuring.

As for Kobe he is the same height as Jamal Crawford in the picture they have below that I posted so don't see how Kobe is "over" 6'5. Rob has him listed about as accurately as he can be here as that 1/4" isn't that easy to detect in pics so he may me taller by 1/4" or the 195cm may not be kobes lowest he may also dip to around 6'4 5/8ish
Canson said on 3/Jun/17
Rob has already mentioned numerous times that a mugshot on Barkley a taller person where he looks down at the camera (adding height) is not ideal for measuring.
Editor Rob: I'd say with his mugshot had the camera was a few inches below his eyes. How much fake height it adds is debatable and really hard to say exactly.

For an ideal mugshot it really needs to be as tall the subject.
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 3/Jun/17

Me sometimes claiming 6'6" is not because I want to make myself any taller than I am, because I believe a strong 6'5" is more than plenty. The 2 reasons I claim it is because, 1. A lot of guys 6'3-6'4" claim 6'5", so it makes 6'5" a bit diminished. 2. I feel like I have to follow the trend and claim taller (so people don't think I'm downplaying my height, because pretty much everyone preceives me as 6'6" or 6'7", when I'm not) Trust me, if everyone was honest with their height and stop with all the exaggerating, I would gladly claim 6'5" or 6'5" and a bit.
Canson said on 31/May/17
@Christian: for your height I probably would never claim 6'6" just because you almost never will look it unless in something like the high boots or Jordan's even then maybe 6'5.5 is a very good claim otherwise you said you hit right at or a mm under 6'5" at an absolute low the 6'5 and change or even 6'5" in a casual shoe (you'd be exactly 6'6" at your lowest with 3/4" shoe). We're similar in respective height range just an inch apart as I also hit 6'4.25 on a day where I've been a bit more active otherwise 193.9 but am consistent in that I usually end up 193.7-194 depending on how active with an absolute low more like 193.1 or .2
Canson said on 31/May/17
@Christian: I'm consistent at that too. Btw I measured yesterday and you are right it's more 3.2 or 3.3 than 3 flat. You are absolutely right as you often have been. That makes sense as some jordans are as high as 1.4". 1.2 maybe undercutting it. When I measured I was 197.2-.3 in sneaks and 194 just on the dot yesterday early afternoon
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 31/May/17

I never claim 6'6" if I'm in rather thin footwear like Vans, Converse, loafers or slides. The only time I claim 6'6" is when I'm in regular sized shoes, but sometimes I say 6'5.5" in them as well. Even if I wear near 2" work boots, I still either claim 6'5.5" or 6'6", never 6'7", despite the fact that I'm 6'7" when wearing them.
Canson said on 30/May/17
@Christian: you were right it's more 3.2cm. I gained more 1.25/1.3" so I underestimated the difference saying 3.0. I measured the194 cm flat at 1pm and about 197.2-.3 in the Jordan sneakers. But to answer I'd still say 6'4.5 tops. I don't claim more than that generally as the same can be said when I wear a low shoe I could look a solid 6'4 if I'm in flats evening time as i come down to 6'4.25-.3 evenings when I go to The gym or am on my feet more which make me under 6'5 in flats or a full 6'5 in casual shoes or a hair over. So that's the reason why I don't adjust because the shoes playing the role account for it and being I don't go in sneakers often and I'm only 197 in higher sneaks it didn't make much sense to claim one today and one tomorrow tho
Canson said on 30/May/17
@Christian: the Jordan 10 is 3 solid. I'm 197 in them. I claim the same regardless of shoe never 6'5" really and I wear casual which usually have .75". Puts me 6'5" or hair over. I say 6'4 1/2 6'4 and change usually. But I do agree with most of what you said
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 29/May/17

Do you claim 6'4.5" or 6'5" if wearing thicker shoes? Because if you wear relatively thick shoes, like Jordans for example, most people will preceive you to be basically 6'5", because those kind of shoes give you roughly 3.5cm, which is more than your average regular shoes which may give you 2-2.5cm
Canson said on 29/May/17
@Christian: I've seen him say 6'4.5 or someone who went to his basketball camp said it online. I don't think he was insecure or downplaying his height I think when he said 6'4" he was in essence telling the kid that everyone thinks he's 6'7" but he's not really . But I do agree tho if I were 195 or close to it at my lowest I'd either say 6'5 or 6'4/6'5. I've actually been saying 6'4 1/2 again lately at 193.9-194 low
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 28/May/17
Strange for a 195cm guy to claim 6'4", unless if they were insecure.
Canson said on 27/May/17
Rounded down to 6'4. He's 195
MrTBlack said on 21/May/17
I'd say full 6'5". Regardless of his "6'4"" claim and his wife probably slightly undermeausred him.
jtm said on 20/May/17
I thought the 6'4 claim was a joke.
RisingForce said on 18/May/17
Christian, yes, but factor in shoes for Ja Rule and many shoes will take him near 5'7.5" so then you can say the camera adds somewhere around an inch. In Barkley's case, we know the camera added an inch one time because he looked 6'8" in shoes from one angle and 6'7" from the other. I think the 6'7" in shoes was about accurate with the camera adding maybe a half inch as you always stand in front of it. Barkley is also bald so he gets no benefit of hair like Ja Rule does. Even in the Ja Rule instance, you have him getting maybe an inch from camera advantage assuming he's about the height Rob lists him. In Barkley's case, he'd need to get over 2" from the one angle that had him 6'8" in shoes for him to be under 6'5" barefoot. Chances are, Barkley was also at his low for his mugshot because he was arrested for a bar fight at night. In short, you have to find a mugshot that adds 2" to someone's in shoes height to really explain Barkley.
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 18/May/17
RisingForce said on 14/May/17
Canson, I do know for sure Barkley and Kobe have downplayed their height because both have given a flat 6'4" at times! You and I agree they're definitely not that short, therefor it can't be denied that they will downplay their height at times, the question is by how much and when are they telling the truth. 6'5.5" in shoes doesn't make sense since Barkley has stood in front of a height chart at 6'7" in shoes.


Mugshot height charts are not always accurate. Click Here 5'6.25" Ja Rule looked 5'8.5" based on the chart. I personally even know quite a few people who were up to 3 inches shorter in person, than what their mugshot photo chart suggested them to be.
RisingForce said on 17/May/17
Michael Redd looks pretty clearly shorter standing behind Kobe and Redd was measured 6'4.75" at the pre-draft camp: Click Here If I'm going to pick who I trust more with an accurate measurement between people who do it as part of their job at the pre-draft camp and a maybe not even 5'4" Vanessa Bryant, it's not a difficult choice. I won't rule out 6'4.75" as a low height for Kobe, but with Rob giving an extra quarter inch to Steve McQueen and Marlon Brando over their far more plausible measurements, I think at least an upgrade to 6'5" to even Kobe up with Jordan would make sense.
RisingForce said on 17/May/17
I respect your opinion, Arby and I can't tell me what I saw, but unless you can show me Barkley looking shorter, it won't convince me. I've seen Barkley with legit 6'7" Krist Novoselic on video and he's barely shorter. Look at 6'0" or 6'1" guys with Barkley. He dwarfs them. Then finally we have Barkley standing I'm front of a height chart at 6'7".
Arby said on 16/May/17
Sorry Rising Force: I have to agree with Canson as I am 6'4" in shoes that Barkley isn't "6'7" in shoes. Having met the guy as much as I have and even seem a coworker at a legit 6'7 barefoot (6'8 in shoes) there's no possible way a guy is nearly 3" taller if he's 6'7" in shoes. Barkley is 6'5.5 in shoes
RisingForce said on 14/May/17
Canson, I do know for sure Barkley and Kobe have downplayed their height because both have given a flat 6'4" at times! You and I agree they're definitely not that short, therefor it can't be denied that they will downplay their height at times, the question is by how much and when are they telling the truth. 6'5.5" in shoes doesn't make sense since Barkley has stood in front of a height chart at 6'7" in shoes.
Arby said on 13/May/17
6'5" barefoot
Mark(5'9.25 said on 11/May/17
Rob, I've probably asked this before too many times and I apologize if I bombard you with too many questions. However, could Peak Christopher Lee fall into the same mark as Kobe Bryant in any way?
Editor Rob: of course they may be close...I think many do believe Kobe doesn't drop under 6ft 5. He certainly can look more 6ft 5 at times I think than Lee could.
Canson said on 8/May/17
@Rising Force: suggestion. Say you think Barkley downplays his height. You don't know for sure he or Kobe do and if they measured those numbers at some point they aren't fluff. They are more than justified claiming it. Barkley has claimed multiple numbers yes. 6'5.5 is in shoes
shiva 181 cms said on 6/May/17
@Rob I think Kobe needs an upgrade to 6'5 he looks 6'5 all the Time and also over 6'5 sometimes
RisingForce said on 5/May/17
I'll tell you, but first I'll tell you I don't think it's at all relevant because of the unique reason Barkley downplays his height. It goes along with his image as an undersized power forward and dominant rebounder. Dennis Rodman did the same thing when he said 6'6", even though Rob lists him at 6'6.5". As for Kobe, you know he's downplayed his height. Kobe himself never even claimed the 6'4 3/4", that was his wife who said she measured him. Kobe himself has said 6'4" and then 6'5" in sneakers. We both agree he's at least around an inch taller than that. You can find some tall men on this site as well as tall women who clearly downplay, but in Barkley's case, as it is he's quite short for his position and his style of playing. So Barkley does indeed have a reason to lie. People lie or exaggerate their height, in most cases it's to be taller, but in Barkley's case, it feeds into the image of the greatest inch for inch rebounder(outside of Rodman) and makes his accomplishments relatively more impressive. Whether you think he is playing it down, he definitely has a reason to. As for Kobe, he'd seemingly have a reason to, but as I mentioned he undoubtedly DOES play down his height because we agree he's not a mere 6'4" barefoot and 6'5" in sneakers like he claims. Btw, look at a few of the tall old time actors like Gary Cooper who only claimed to be 6'2", but most think was at least 6'3". Also, look at the quote Brian Aherne mentioned. "Gary Cooper once leaned over ... and asked me my height. When I whispered '6 feet 2 1/2', he whispered back, 'never admit to 6-feet-3.'" It's not at all implausible Barkley plays it down, since we know Kobe does and 6'3" actors have. If Barkley has no reason to lie, then why would he also claim 6'5.5"? Certainly, there's less reason for a man so far above the average to give himself an extra half inch to 3/4". As for me, I was measured last year on a stadiometer at 5'9" according to the nurse, but I was wearing Converse(0.6") and had my hoodie up(an extra 1/8", maybe 1/4") so based on that I'm a little over 5'8" barefoot unless I was actually a fraction over 5'9" in sneakers and the nurse didn't include it. I've measured myself in socks a few times a little taller than that implies, but between 5'8" and 5'9" either way. Funny enough, I guessed a friend of mine at 6'2" and he told me he was 6'3", then I see a photo of us with other friends and while he could have been on higher ground, I'm standing straight, maybe even slightly on my toes, he's leaning and my head only seems to reach his mouth, so it seems he was indeed a legit 6'3", even though I thought he was a bit shorter, perhaps because he always has to look down to talk to someone my size so he wouldn't be standing at his full height.
Canson said on 1/May/17
@rising force: well Kobe and Barkley have no reason to lie. How tall are you by the way? I ask because someone like me or Christian both of us being 6'4 and change and 6'5+ can tell easier what to look for. I ask too because you think people downplay a lot more than they do maybe the guys you think are 6'4 aren't really maybe only 6'2-6'3 and your perspective may be skewed.
Canson said on 1/May/17
@184guy: joe could be as tall as Kobe imho meaning to me 195 is a best case for joe too
RisingForce said on 29/Apr/17
Kobe can look 6'4.75" at times, I agree, but clearly looks taller at other times. As for Barkley, for all I know they got that figure from Chuck himself. But 6'4 5/8" is closer to 6'5" than 6'4". Check my recent post on the Barkley page when it goes through. I have a 3 pic series, a near full shot, a pic from the same angle as the Barkley/Kobe pic and one more to suggest Barkley is only about 1.5" or 2" absolute max shorter than Magic, but we can continue that on Barkley's page and try to stay on Kobe here.
184guy said on 29/Apr/17
@Canson , who do you believe is taller
Joe Manganiello or Kobe ? Take a look at a vídeo of Joe and Straham on Michael and Kelly in 2015. To me he does look taller than Kobe beside Guys like Conan and Straham
Canson said on 29/Apr/17
@Rising Force: Kobe with 6'4.5 measured Jamal Crawford

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Canson said on 29/Apr/17
@123: Strahan is 6'4.25 so puts Kobe as 6'4.75 if he has a half inch on Michael strahan like you said. This is more likely as he can likely dip even a hair below this mark (mm or two) as can any human being
Canson said on 29/Apr/17
@Rising Force: doubt it. Why would they say 6'4 5/8 for Barkley then? They would've said he's closer to 6'4". But 6'7-6'7.25 I agree on. Pat Riley calls magic 6'7" as well. And he isn't significantly taller than Cooper or Wilkes and shorter than Rambis is who is weak 6'8" guy rambis isn't much taller than Phil Jackson and wasn't as tall as robert horry who's 6'8. Barkley by the way is 3" shorter than magic or very near nothing less than 6cm
Canson said on 29/Apr/17
@Rising Force: Kobe looks 195cm almost always on the court. If you see Kobe by Rick Fox (196/197) and a guy like Metta World peace he's shorter by 1/2-3/4 than both guys. Fox has said himself he's "6'5 while ballin 6'7 actin". My guess strong 6'5" 196.5-197 as Dob said Joshua looked taller in person than him not to mention nobody's eye is perfect Christian is 6'5 3/8 afternoon and someone could see him and guess him 6'5.5-6'6" because it's less than a cm here or there. MWP said he is 6'5.5 but again could be combine measurement earlier in the day and could only be 6'5.25 or could be 6'5 3/8 (they don't do 1/8" increments instead they round up). They also rounded up more a long time ago so the 6'7.5 you mentioned pippen being even if he did measure close to that it could've been 6'7 1/8 or 1/4" and rounded up since they didn't do 1/4" before. I've met Larry Johnson in person as well as played against Caron Butler. Notice Larry Johnson is listed 6'5.5 and butler 6'5.25. Butler is 2cm taller than I am when I stood next to LJ the same as my 196.3cm friend. They don't look any different in person ether. Id say LJ is Christian's height.
123 said on 28/Apr/17
Kobe could be the full 6'5" 195.58 centimeters on a good day such as when he is lounging around the house after 7-8hours its pretty obvious that he at least a half on michael strahan
RisingForce said on 27/Apr/17
Well, 6'7.5" would be closer to 6'7" than 6'9", even 6'7.75" would be, but I do remember how Magic was noticeably shorter than Larry Bird, who did seem a pretty legitimate 6'9" to me, but must have shrunk with that awful back of his. Strong 6'7" is possible for Magic since he was really dwarfed by Kareem. I really think anything from 6'7" to 6'7.5" is possible. I think a wide range is arguable for Kobe, sort of like Barkley. Even if Magic is 6'7", Kobe is definitely looking 6'5"+ there and I remember the Laker championship photos where Magic wasn't that much taller than Kobe while both were dwarfed by Shaq.
Canson said on 27/Apr/17
@Rising Force: Vernon Davis combine height is 6'3.25 and looks 2.5" min taller than Obama. Obama isn't over 6'1" and likely isn't a full 6'1" either. That's not taking into account if Davis was measured a hair earlier and drops a small fraction (doubt it's more than maybe another 1/8" as he is tall in person). Strong 6'3"

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Canson said on 26/Apr/17
@Rising Force: he can look taller but have to remember that magic is listed 6'7.5 here he's more 6'7" flat is how he appears which makes Kobe around 6'5". 1/4" difference isn't easy to tell. Magic next to rambis was noticeably shorter and same with Wilkes and copper or stern barely taller than they were. It also said at the olympics closer to 6'7" than 6'9 (you saw how specific they were with Barkley 6'4 5/8) maybe magic is 6'7-6'7.25
RisingForce said on 25/Apr/17
Typically, Kobe looks more like a 6'5.5" guy to me, such as with Obama, but surprisingly, these pics with a 6'3.75" do lend credence to the 6'4.75" measurement: Click Here Click Here He did look pretty much identical to Michael Jordan as well. But if Magic is 6'7.5" then Kobe looked to easily clear 6'5" at Michael Jackson's memorial service: Click Here Maybe the 6'4.75" was an evening measurement at Kobe's low or Vanessa was off slightly because with a few exceptions, Kobe does look to easily clear 6'5". Obama is around 6'1" and his head struggled to come even to Kobe's eyes. There's a case to be made for 6'4.75" as shown in the pics with Wade, but then Obama is looking around 182 cm and Magic, only in the 6'6" range.
Canson said on 25/Apr/17
The pic with Strahan puts Kobe as "near 6'5" 195cm or full 6'5. Next to 6'4.25 strahan depending on the angle there
Duhon said on 25/Apr/17
Kobe back to back with Michael Strahan Click Here another pic of them Click Here
Canson said on 10/Apr/17
@Kei: what you said makes sense but with no objects known in size like a doorway or someone's height we know well enough it's difficult to tell just how tall he is.
Canson said on 10/Apr/17
@Nick: 193 for Cam? No chance. May drop to 195 but he isn't any shorter than Kobe is. Both would clear well over 196cm out of bed and probably are 6'4.75 worst case they dip to weak 6'5" 6'4 2/3-3/4. Cam looks as tall as Roethlisberger does and about as tall as Peyton in most pics.
Nick said on 10/Apr/17
Don't know what to claim(5'11 said on 19/Mar/17
Next to 6'5 Newton.
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Newton is not 196cm.

Might be more 193cm flat.
Johnson said on 10/Apr/17
So then the conclusion is a person of 6'10 or 6'11 can shock people walking around the street
Kei said on 9/Apr/17
I think we all agree on 6'10 6'11, I even asked some guys at work they said 6'10-6'11 ish.
Canson said on 9/Apr/17
@Kei: it's tough to tell with no objects. I'm not sure if you watch Dave chapelles new show out. He looks way taller than '0" on their because of how they magnify him so in truth proportions and build can throw things off a lot. I agree with Christian on that. Me at 194 cm I easily pass for 6'5/6'6" the way I'm built when I'm really 6'4" avg height and closer to it at 6'4 3/8 so he could be 6'8" your height or could be 6'10 like Johnson and I thought too
Johnson said on 8/Apr/17
@Kei I agree it is difficult to calculate height with no references but that guy stunned me. I have never met NBA players I have only encountered local basketball players. But I guess a guy of 6'10 or less would not paralyze me.
Kei said on 8/Apr/17
@#CAnson I know but compared to the other guy who is also tall he towers him, at 6'8 barefoot I tower shorter people but anyone over 6 feet does not look that short. Even though people over 6 feet tell me they look small compared to me. But that guy's body is bigger than mine hes a min 6'10 look how small the car looks. I recently met a seven footer dang dude was like a mini building I felt like i was 6'5 at best, I also me a legit 6'10.5 barefoot guy and he had some height on me and looked about this guys size. Here is me pic blured for identity I'm not standing straight.

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Canson said on 8/Apr/17
Well said Christian and that is why people often underestimate or overestimate peoples heights. Like Kobe Bryant as an example because of how he is built and looks in pics next to "unmeasured" people who self proclaim a height. An example would be you as a strong 6'5" me as a strong 6'4" if I were to claim 6'6" (I would never do this of course) people would assume with you next to me that you were at least 6'7" and if camera angle is favoring you even taller than 6'7". Word to the wise some of these guys like Charles Barkley and Kobe and Howard stern may actually and likely are actually telling the truth about their heights
Christian-196.2cm (6ft5.25) said on 8/Apr/17
Johnson said on 6/Apr/17
Can you guess with their proportions the height of these 2 guys?

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He is the tallest guy that I have ever seen


I would have guessed that the taller guy is maybe 6ft8-ish, while the shorter one is maybe 6ft2. But you can't usually predict height just by looking at a person's body proportions. Skinny people with long limbs, short torsos and small heads can give the impression of being very tall, even if they're only of average height, if you have no objects to compare, like Canson said. This is why models look very tall, they are slim and typically have long limbs, short torsos and small heads.
Canson said on 8/Apr/17
@Kei: It's hard to tell because there are no objects to compare him to but he looks as if he's maybe the same size as Jermaine O'Neal is in pics. He looks like jermaine O'Neal from the back and O'Neal is 6'9.5ish barefoot
Canson said on 6/Apr/17
One reliable NBA comparison is to Brandon Roy when he played. I've balled with Roy and he's a legit listed strong 6'5 close to his pre draft (6'5.25) no less than maybe 195.6-196. In game he looks 1cm taller than Kobe 196 vs 195
Canson said on 7/Apr/17
@Johnson: how tall would you say he is? 6'9" ish?
Johnson said on 7/Apr/17
The short one looks 6'4 right?
Johnson said on 7/Apr/17
@Kei how do you know that he has 3 inches on you??
Johnson said on 7/Apr/17
@Canson I was totally amazed when I see that guy. It felt like everybody should stop what they were doing and observe that giant.
Kei said on 7/Apr/17
@Johnson 6'11 ish I'm 6'8 he has about 3 inches on me.
Canson said on 7/Apr/17
@Johnson: no clue how tall they are. The taller one looks like he's 6'9-6'10 imho but proportions are misleading with no object to compare to
Johnson said on 6/Apr/17
Can you guess with their proportions the height of these 2 guys?

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He is the tallest guy that I have ever seen
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 6/Apr/17
With Zac Efron:

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Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 6/Apr/17
With Zac Efron:

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Canson said on 5/Apr/17
@SJH: true she can. Maybe you're right
S.J.H said on 5/Apr/17

She really can look like 5'3 and nothing next to kobe but sometimes look near 5'3.5 range, she round up her height more possible then round down. I totally don't see her 5'4. Kobe shoulder tip level is like 5'3.75 and basically look a little higher than vanessa when she not in heels. You may check out her instagram with kobe. 5'3-5'3.5 is possible than 5'4. Guys like us over 6'3 and up our shoulder tip is usually 33cm measure from the tip of our head.
Steve said on 5/Apr/17
Click Here How tall would you say he looks here with 6ft1.75 Thierry Henry, Rob? I'm seeing about 4.5inches difference, but that would put Kobe at just over 6ft6??
Shame we can't see footwear. Maybe that's where the difference is...
Editor Rob: can seem near 4 inches, always a chance Henry is 186, he seems like he is closer to Tony Parker who claimed 186cm too.
Christian-196.2cm (6ft5.25) said on 4/Apr/17
Jke 168cm said on 30/Mar/17
Hi Rob how tall do you think these two guys are standing next to Kobe ?

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Editor Rob: might be somewhere in 6ft 2 range and nearly 6ft 4


The guy on the left doesn't look anywhere near 6ft2 if he took his hat off. At best he's 6ft0.5
Canson said on 4/Apr/17
@Johnson: she can look 5'4" sometimes. But I don't believe her losted height as a cheerleader of 5'5". 5'4" or weak 5'4" maybe looks legit for her. She looks about a foot shorter than he is which could also mean 13" hard to tell that difference between 12-13
S.J.H said on 3/Apr/17

I would even rule out a weak 5'3 for vanessa bryant. i've see without heels she always look about an inch under kobe shoulder level
Johnson said on 1/Apr/17
If Kobe is 6'4.75 Kobe's wife is quite shorter than her claim
J said on 1/Apr/17

What do you make of Kobe standing next to a strong 6'4 Bill O'reilly (pictured with Howard Stern before and Conan and so on)? Kobe seems to have at the very least 1 full inch on Bill. Kobe's posture is terrible to boot. A 6'5 upgrade for this webpage seems reasonable at this point, no?

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Editor Rob: he could look 3cm taller than Bill
Jke 168cm said on 30/Mar/17
Hi Rob how tall do you think these two guys are standing next to Kobe ?

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Editor Rob: might be somewhere in 6ft 2 range and nearly 6ft 4
Canson said on 30/Mar/17
Kobe with Jamal Crawford

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Canson said on 30/Mar/17
He could've also measured a full 6'5" or over another time as well. I saw one at 6'5.25 for Fiba. but has also said that he's 6'4 1/2" once barefoot as well and 6'6 in triple socks and shoes. Then of course this 6'4.75. My guess is the FIBA was just earlier in the day or maybe when his hair was longer. My guess is:

196.5-197 out of bed
194.5-195 at his lowest
Absolute low could be 194 cm which would be in his feet all day but normal low should be around 194.9 6'4.75
TheReel said on 29/Mar/17
I love that instagram picture with Vanessa saying she measured Kobe to all the tall guys take notice of Kobe's style thats a nice suit a well fitting suit as well add some swanky dress shoes a classy expensive looking watch and the ladies won't be able to resist! (well as long as you look as good as Kobe and are on the taller side also)
Duhon said on 29/Mar/17
Duhon said on 28/Mar/17
Rob how accurate do you take Kobe's wife's measurement of him?
Editor Rob: it could be within a fraction...he can pull off 6ft 5 a fair amount, so maybe you could call 6ft 4.75 his lowest.

I think that's fair. Seeing as this was just some measurement his wife chose to do it could have been in the evening after a game even when she measured him.
Canson said on 29/Mar/17
@SJH: that could mean she was measured early and Kobe may have been for all we know. But I believe Kobe as 194.95 maybe dips a hair under at night because most guess him 6'5". My former AAU coach is a scout In the pros and has met him and said he looked about 6'5 ish but believes the 6'4.75. Also has met MJ and Barkley and said they're similar to me in height 6'4-6'5
Canson said on 29/Mar/17
Agree Rob. He looks 6'5" to most at 195cm. Virtually no difference even if he were 6'4 5/8 wearing his Nike he'd be about 6'6" which people would assume 6'5 or 6'6
ya boi said on 29/Mar/17
This is fact is he really 6'4.75
Duhon said on 28/Mar/17
Rob how accurate do you take Kobe's wife's measurement of him?
Editor Rob: it could be within a fraction...he can pull off 6ft 5 a fair amount, so maybe you could call 6ft 4.75 his lowest.
TheReel said on 28/Mar/17
@Canson Kobe like alot of other extremely tall men has a habit of slouching excessively, (which is a little wierd i think since he is a nba player he should be proud of his height and what he has managed to accomplish with it) but any ways i digress, when Kobe does stand half way decent it is obvious that he is exceptionally tall and not under six-five and a half, kobe towers countless six-one listed celebrities on here heck he even has 3-4 inches on morgan freeman tell me does that sound like under six-five material too you?, heck no what I am describing is a extremely guy and Kobe is that
S.J.H said on 28/Mar/17
Funny thing was that vanessa bryant claiming she was 5'4 and listed 5'5 and honestly she always look under 5'4 and probably 5'3.25 barefoot
Canson said on 28/Mar/17
@Rob and Johnson; that shouldn't be a surprise though that he isn't 6'6" barefoot. No NBA players are listed that way. Carmelo Anthony is for sure 6'6-6'6.25 and he's clearly 1.5" taller than Kobe is. I've met Melo in person and he was 1.5-2" taller than me so 195 or more specifically 194.945 (6'4.75) is perfect for Kobe
Canson said on 28/Mar/17
@So Thereel: are you saying Rick Fox at 196-197 is shorter than or the same height as Kobe?
Canson said on 28/Mar/17
@Thereel: is that you don't like Kobe for some reason or don't believe or want to believe it?
Dillon said on 28/Mar/17
@Johnson Yeah you're right! Glad I found it when I did! Saw it 4 hours after she posted it and I decided to send the link right then and there. Glad I did!
TheReel said on 28/Mar/17
I just can't see Kobe being my height I just cant he towers six one dudes imho , I see him as being a extremely tall guy at nothing less than least six-five and a half
he is unusually tall and definitely looks taller than every six five listed actorsvi don't even see Howard stern as having that most much height on six one six two celebrity's Kobe is taller than Howard stern I'm positive ain't no way Howard is as tall as kobe
TheReel said on 28/Mar/17
This six four and three quarter stuff is such bs kobes wife isn't measuring properly because that man is six five and three quarters, he certainly looks a easy six five most of the time I don't know his anyone can think hes under that Vanessa stick to doing NBA with wife airhead stuff and leave the measuring to the professionals ok I'm sure she has manicure appointments and the like to be attending while I'm typing this very comment,
Johnson said on 27/Mar/17
@Rob @Dillon I enter to the instagram it doesn't say anything. Only 4 emoticons and no comments

Did she delete it?
Editor Rob: appears like it!

probably the truth wasn't well received by some people 😄

but hey, the quote at least is now preserved for future generations.....Kobe's great great great grandchildren will know he wasn't 6ft 6 barefoot
Canson said on 27/Mar/17
@Dillon: nice find! Adds up as his sneakers put him at 1.25"
Dillon said on 26/Mar/17
Finally proof of Kobe's height! Kobe's wife said in instagram post he's 6'4 and 3/4 without shoes and 6'6 with Nike's. It was just posted today.

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Editor Rob: we've known about the measurement for years, but it is now good to see a longer quote typed out by his wife!...I will add that under the photo...
Canson said on 24/Mar/17
@SJH: this is a different angle. Cam is not shorter than him. If you had them both at same vantage point Cam looks physically taller. My guess is they're the same height. I've heard of people who have met cam one of which is a 6'5" friend of my cousins who did and says they're the same height. Now no guarantee my cousins friend is 6'5" flat could be 6'4.75 as well but my cousin did say his friend looks about 1/2" taller than me. My cousin is about 190cm himself 6'2.75 or so and he said about 2".

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shiva 181 cms said on 23/Mar/17
@Rob what is the chance of Kobe measuring 6'5.5
Editor Rob: a chance of 6ft 5ish, but 5.5 I haven't seen enough to think he'd measure that height barefoot.
Canson said on 22/Mar/17
@SJH: kap is shorter than Cam. Maybe Cam is more 194 range but I would've said 195 honestly. Kobe I know isn't over 195
Canson said on 22/Mar/17
I agree JJ. That is his real height. 6'4.75. But I think Cam is the one dropping height. Cam is also at least that height.
S.J.H said on 21/Mar/17

If you look at the top of ear will give you clue. they're an inch apart as kobe looking straight at camera and newton tilt up head a little and kobe shoes maybe 0.5-1cm more heel than newton sneakers. Newton is only 6'4.5 max like i say before 194cm since kobe is 195cm simplify it as 1cm apart. 6'4.5 Colin kaepernick, cam newton and other NFL players were just like NBA players draft measurement in the early morning and all look half inch shorter than their without shoes listing.
jj said on 21/Mar/17
Kobe is dropping height in that picture though so Kobe 194.9cm-195.5cm, Cam newton 193.3-194cm (morning measurement taken), I will admit Kobe does look taller than the flat six four I originally thought he was I'm starting to believe his wife's measurement of 6'4 3/4" was real afternoon height, and that Kobe was downplaying with flat 6'4 193cm claim
Canson said on 20/Mar/17
@Dont know what to Claim: again Kobe is in front of Cam
Don't know what to claim(5'11 said on 19/Mar/17
Next to 6'5 Newton.
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Canson said on 17/Mar/17
@Dont Know What to Claim: everyone uses that picture. Kobe has a camer advantage. Manning is taller than he is
Canson said on 16/Mar/17
@Dillon: randle isn't 3" taller than Kobe I doubt. Morning 6'7.75 prob makes him a little less. Looks more like 2.5ish tho inageee. I'd put randle around 6'7.25/.5. I agree on Kobe 6'4 2/3-3/4 anywhere in there
Don't know what to claim(5'11 said on 16/Mar/17
Kobe next to 6'5 Manning.

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Canson said on 16/Mar/17
@Dillon: TMAC is more 6'6.5. Kobe is "about 2" taller". The 6'7" he was given is from a newspaper article. I know a cousin of TMAC's that describes him as 6'6/6'7 and 6'8 in shoes. I also know that carter doesn't look more than a full two inches shorter than him
Dillon said on 16/Mar/17
Found more prove to Kobe being 6'4.75. He appears to be about 3 inches shorter than the 6'7.75 Julius Randle and 2-2.5 inches shorter than 6'7 Tracey McGrady.

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Canson said on 14/Mar/17
@Dillon: that's the same with with Jordan or Barkley or anyone else. They can all appear taller than someone else or shorter. Pictures are not a good vehicle for comparison at least not always. I have one with my 6'3 friend where we are standing next to each other at a bar and he appears slightly taller in one and the same height in another. Then we stood back to back and it's 1-1.5". At the end of the day Dr J prime is 6'5.5. I even know someone who is close in height with me (he's maybe 193) that said he thought Doc was a full 6'6" but again 1.5/2" is hard to tell and most people round up heights just for effect so a 6'4.5 guy like us especially with a 6'3.5 guy will call us 6'5" even tho we both dip closer to 6'4 than 6'5 at night which is why Kobe appears more 6'5 than 6'4. But I've seen Kobe with Michael Redd or Melo in good pics and he's clearly shorter so 6'4.75 looks good for him. Redd is likely our height more or less. They do round up the numbers from 6'4.5/6'4.625 in some cases and he and Kobe are maybe 1/4" apart
Dillon said on 14/Mar/17
Although Julius Erving who is supposed to be 6'5.5, edges Kobe out by 1/2 to 3/4 of a inch or so which would put Kobe at about 6'4.75. This is a tough one. Is he 6'6 or 6'4.75? I suppose we will never really know for sure unless the someone where to ask him.

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Dillon said on 14/Mar/17
I found a photo worth looking at. Kobe appears to be the same height if not slightly taller than 6'6 Jalen Rose. Seems like every time I jump on the 6'4.75 bandwagon, I find some other photo that makes me jump back on to the 6'6 bandwagon. I got to say I'm 50 50 on Kobe being 6'6 or 6'4.75. His height is really mysterious to me.

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Canson said on 11/Mar/17
@S.J.H: I agree on Carter probably about 195. Kobe can look his height most of the time but I'd honestly say 194.8is or .75 for Kobe and maybe 194-194.3 for Jordan as I do feel Jordan would probably edge me by a hair but I don't see him more than a small fraction taller than I am
S.J.H said on 10/Mar/17

Yes i agree with you carter lowest maybe flat 195cm and kobe lowest around 194.6cm and no doubt mj is 194cm flat same as you.
Canson said on 7/Mar/17
@S.J.H: I believe it truly! He's always been a hair taller. I think a peak Kobe may have been 194.8/194.9 while MJ peak 194.4.-194.5 and essentially in that 6'4.5-.6 range while Kobe probably was around 6'4.7-.75 peak he looks about 1/8-1/4" shorter and looks about 1/4" or so lower than Vince carter as well. My guesses would be:

Vince 6'4 3/4-6'5 (6'4.83-.85)
Kobe 6'4 2/3- 6'4 3/4 (6'4.7)
MJ 6'4 1/2 (6'4.5)
S.J.H said on 7/Mar/17
Click Here kobe look a few mm taller than jordan
Canson said on 6/Mar/17
@S.J.H: Kobe is taller than he is. Yep and I posted that pic before but nobody wants to believe Barkley isn't even 6'5. They instead will come up with an excuse "Oh we can't see the shoes etc etc etc". Barkley may have lost a fraction but any way you slice it his teammates have all said he's 6'4 range not 6'5" meaning he probably never was unless he was measured almost immediately upon waking and that's prob where the 6'4.75 came from maybe 2 hours or so out of bed or after some stretching or laying down. Kobe at 6'4.75 I can believe tho and kobe's head is tilted down which makes the top of his head higher making him taller because of the way his head is shaped. I know because I have stop on mine and it's the same thing
S.J.H said on 6/Mar/17
Click Here Interesting picture. Barkley look small. Haha..
Canson said on 4/Mar/17
@Johnson: my suspicion is he wasn't measured at all at the Hopps Summit and they listed it.for sure theNBA isn't going to under list someone especially the number one pick with all he has riding on this selection and his status
Canson said on 4/Mar/17
@Johnson: yes I saw that but again how is he "appearing" 6'1" to the people on this page who have met him? How is he 5" shorter than Carmelo Anthony? And no Melo isn't any taller than his pre draft states that's the most he'd be
Johnson said on 3/Mar/17
Derrick Rose data:

In 2007 measured 6'3.5 with shoes on. Curious thing a year before the draft and an inch taller with shoes on...
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Canson said on 3/Mar/17
@Johnson: Rose was drafted in 2008 my man. He's about 5" shorter than Carmelo Anthony minimum. Like I've said I've seen and stood next to Melo he is at very very most his predraft measurement no taller. No he didn't grow because I saw him last year same footwear stance etc. it's just that his pre draft is one of the few that is accurate out there.So if he is 6'6-6'6.25 explain to me how a guy 5" shorter is 6'2.5? Rose's Afro doesn't even come up to Melo's eyebrows so that should tell you something there. Rose is 6'1" range at very most he's 6'1.5 like Rob has him but I believe that is a stretch like everyone else below has said. You keep using your soccer players who you claim you email and receive insider trading like Enron about but you are wrong. They can lie about their players just like anyone Manny now or joe on the street could self proclaim theirs. I'm sorry but you have no argument here and your story changes every time you reply to me to where you are honestly beginning to sound less and less intelligent and like you are one sided at looking to inflate people to accommodate someone else's height.
Johnson said on 3/Mar/17
@Canson I meant errors of copy paste figures anyway. Just compare Rose on shoes 2007 and 2008. You guessed Zidane 184.5 too much for evening... that is what I give him
Johnson said on 3/Mar/17
@Canson my answer to your last message is about to be approved in Derrick Rose section. You will see my reasons. About Lebron should be know how to read... last message is the one valid... Rob also change opinion after seeing more pics

...but you will only pick on me despite lots of people in this website guess taller than I do... curious
Canson said on 1/Mar/17
@Dillon: I used to measure 194.2 afternoon but lost small fraction like 2mm and get down to 193.9 at night I say 6'4 as well because I have taller friends who are precise and one that rounds down like a 6'5.33 friend who claims 6'5 and doesn't say change
Canson said on 1/Mar/17
@Johnson: no offense you are naive. Anyone can tell you that someone is taller on the inside of the org. It's called stat fudging and boosting. If I had a guy who was 6'0" as a basketball player I may call him 6'1" that's what they do. You probably haven't verified a thing in reality
Canson said on 1/Mar/17
@Johnson: I respect your opinion but you make no sense whatsoever. "If someone can assure you Rose and Melo are the heights they are measured". What the hell does that mean? So you're saying they're both taller than what they are listed or are you judiciously want to make them taller to make the "math work with everyone else you comment"? Not many people 18-20 grow. That is overblown. If you look comparatively against one another what they measured as it's a 5" diff. In fact one looks 6'1" the other 6'6"-6.25 imho. If you look at Lebron next to Melo he's 1-2cm taller. An you previously made Lebron 6'8 on his page. How? He's shorter than Kevin love or carlos boozer. He's max 6'7 and I agree with S.J.H maybe 200cm as how he looks next to Melo. Looks 1/2" tops. The person below was right who said he was taller than rose and he said rose is 6'1".
Johnson said on 28/Feb/17
@Canson If predrafts measurements are fine I would not argue over them. If I do it is because I heard someone one day saying some of the figures were wrong in draftexpress. If people could assure me Melo and Rose were measured at that figures then it would be ok. Another thing it is some players can grow up after 18-20 some fraction

The difficult thing is to agree about hours in listings. As I work with data of footballers in website and they are morning heights I work onto that base. If in some job we judge heights of our medicals at 2-4 hours after waking up, I consider them as ok. It depends, so I normally claim heights for this site earlier than Rob's. If it is 0.5 cm of difference it does coincide but if I see a whole centimetre or 1.5 cm I discuss them and give my opinion
Canson said on 27/Feb/17
@Dillon the very first pic does favor Kobe. He's closer to the camera. Manning is further back. We would need a back to back or one where they are behind one another like the olympics to tell that. And when two people are that close in height it can go either way. I have pics with my father who's 1cm to 1/2" shorter that can make him look even with me or taller depending on angle or shoes
Canson said on 27/Feb/17
@Johnson: you just said exactly what I was saying all along and no it isn't what you said before your story has changed.yes I agree Most people will claim especially on this site what they measure at the given time. Most measure afternoon and use that as a rule of thumb here as most follow rob's method.

But one thing jake mentioned on Lebron's page he use right about they do manipulate measurements. I know because I have a friend who is a scout who says they do it when the spine is at it's peak often and they even throw shoes in the barefoot column so my best judgment is off of people who have seen them in person or myself as a gauge. But You're saying that rose is 6'2.5 when he measured 6'1.5 he's not even that out of bed esp when you have guys that have met him in person saying he's 6'1" flat. As I said earlier, most people when assessing the athletes on this site (I don't myself but most do) use the pre drafts as their rule of thumb. We do not know what time they occur in every sport. But in basketball they are very early as shown since 2009. But you instead are inflating pre drafts. So most people for example with Isaiah Thomas will say he is 5'8.75 if he didn't say himself he's 5'8. Carmelo Anthony measured 6'6.25. Point im making is you're giving melo 1/4" extra justifying that his measurement should be 2-3 hours out of bed. I on the other hand am using rob's method of 5-7 hrs out of bed (my own height) yes I am 194 exactly in cm (come down to 193.9 at night usually sometimes 193.7 if I go to the gym and can come down even lower if I'm on my feet. However I consider the 194 my true height as I always have (I actually have said 6'4 1/2 mostly which is 194.3 because I round and because I don't feel like arguing with strong 6'3s who claim 6'4 because like you said a lot do measure in the morning. What I am saying is that a morning measurement shouldn't be any more superior to an afternoon and I agree with Rob it should be what you measure most frequently and the longest throughout the day. I am about 194 most of true day. You're essentially adding fractions on people like Melo or Kobe who were measured quite accurately. Kobe is 1.5" shorter than Melo approximately. He's 6'6" in shoes and about 195 in bare feet. He looks 195 next to melo or next to Devaean George or Matt Barnes or Metta world peace or Rick fox. MWP has claimed 6'5.5 as his height could be that or 6'5.25 he's 1/2" or 3/4 taller than Kobe is.

@Dillon: Kobe is 6'6" in shoes. That's what his dad referred to. 6'6.5 maybe early in the day in Jordans. We have someone at 6'5-6'5.25 KROC on his page who has met him and said he's 1/2" taller than Kobe is. You also have another person who met him Smoke on Allen Iverson's page that said Kobe is 6'5" on a good day which is how Richard Jefferson described Vince carter and Kobe isn't any taller than Vince if even as tall. My friend a NBA scout has met and played with Kobe. He told me Kobe doesn't look more than maybe 1/4-1/2" taller than me in person and that at a solid 6'2 like he is Kobe is 2.5-3" taller. He said Kobe looks "at most" 6'5 on a good day as well. So how is Kobe 6'6 or 6'6.5 when he's shorter than Melo is. I've met Melo he's 1.5-2" taller than me. He's 198-198.8 precisely a strong 6'6". Kobe is about identical with Jamal Crawford who measured 6'4.5 so no he isn't 6'5 and not 6'5.25. Just some food for thought Peyton manning isnt 6'5.25 at this stage of his life. He is shorter than JJ Watt by 1/4-3/8" in the papa John commercials. Also how do we know 6'5.25 was his low either? He could in his prime have gotten to 196 flat or 6'5 1/8 too. Manning is 6'5" tops today. And he is not shorter than Kobe in some pics he edges him. But to keep it real pics aren't always a good way to judge because of camera angles. My guess is he's 1/4" taller than Kobe is max. Or they're both about 195cm. Manning looked about 2" shorter just about than Osweiler did as well so he for sure isn't over 6'5". Osweiler is 6'6 7/8 combine which is morning so maybe 6'6 5/8-3/4. But more food for thought when someone is in their 40s now when height loss can begin, has been a pro athlete for nearly 20 years and taken beatings and has had 4 neck surgeries how is him not losing height possible? It's more likely he did than didn't.
Dillon said on 27/Feb/17
@Canson: By the way, I'm the same exact height as you. Every single time I go to the doctor except one time they've measured me at 6'4 and a half. The one exception was 6'4 and a quarter. I've had a lot of people think I'm 6'5 or 6'6, but I tell them I'm 6'4.
S.J.H said on 27/Feb/17

Kobe is not even 6'5 at most 6'4-5/8th like a younger charles barkley. Both mj and barkley look dead on 6'4.5 nowadays. On the youtube clip peyton manning look 1 cm or half inch shorter than kobe when the camera is on the corrected angle. I did daring to say peyton is only 6'4 if kobe at lowest he claim 6'4.5 and at most 6'4.25 for peyton and kobe 6'4.75 max. None of them is 6'5 or 6'6. Check out dennis rodman as the true solid 6'6 fool many people think he was 6'7-6'8 he was not
Dillon said on 26/Feb/17
Kobe is at the very least 6'5. At least as tall as 6'5.25 Peyton Manning.

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Dillon said on 26/Feb/17
@Canson: How does the picture favor Kobe? He's clearly at least an inch taller than Peyton Manning. Plus I remember his dad saying he was like 6'6, 6'6.5. He's also two inches taller than 6'4 Conan and taller than 6'5 Cam Newton. Kobe is 6'6. I'm sorry that's just a fact. You can make excuses all you want, but it doesn't change the facts.
Johnson said on 26/Feb/17
@Canson my point actually is to valid the measurement done in a medical test. Perhaps it was a missunderstanding. I mean, if a speak to a footballer and he tells me "I am 177, I am measured every year", or a typical person, that would be their height, if they are not forcing the posture of course.

I don't know if you know what I mean. Rob is 173 cm in medicals. If you are not doing medicals, then you go by the measurements at home. In your case I see you are 1.94 m exactly. My case is weird that is why I became obsessed with my own case. I am normally 175.5 evening to night. Never under 175 cm. 177.5 out of bed. 2 hours after waking up I am 176. This year I was measured in a medical, in at 17:20 and I was 175.3, and also I have done a medical in the morning but 4 hours after waking up and doing walking in the park for 2 km and I was said 175.
Canson said on 25/Feb/17
@S.J.H: I agree with everything you said. I have never for the life of me gotten why people feel the need to claim to be taller than they are or claim someone else is just for the sake of it. I honestly believe most people (usually shorter guys and taller guys who want to be taller or have egos) inflate others because they are insecure with themselves. But you and I along with select others here know that inflating does no good. You being 6'7 and me being 6'4+ know that inflating our heights has no incentive in our lives as it is just more problems. Back problems which I have doorway problems and vehicle which you would have in a high soles shoe and the latter for me in vehicles. I love when you see a 5'9" guy ask how tall you are and I say 6'4 and change and they argue with you because they believe they are 5'11. Then when you prove it to them " it's always well in shoes you're so and so such and such". It's always an excuse. I've never gotten it. Just because they want to be taller or are insecure with their height doesn't mean you have to follow suit just to accommodate their insecurity with themselves
Canson said on 25/Feb/17
@Johnson: sorry but your post made no sense saying all "normal people" say their height 2-3 hours and not 6-7 hrs. Rob is the site master and most people on this site use their afternoon or evening. So what you are telling me is that if I don't go to the doctor (if I cannot) two to three hours upon waking that the doctor is full of shigoogle when he gives me a measurement at 3pm as opposed to 9am? If I had no knowledge height varied I wouldn't even know nor would I care. So what James said to you is correct you do inflate heights and likely your own. In my case I could care less about 6'4 or 6'5. I have said 6'4" and change long enough so that's what I stick with and I list myself as 6'4". Let's be honest when you are a certain height what does me "saying" I'm 6'5" gain for me that I don't get already saying I'm 6'4"? Absolutely nothing. So don't see why a morning measurement is more superior than an afternoon. If anything I'd take the average what I measure most easily and frequently for the day and what I can replicate. My philosophy is if I measure someone who says they are 6'4 and they are 6'3 3/8 or 6'3.25 afternoon that is what they are 6'3 and change not 6'4. So your argument is wrong and is weak
Canson said on 25/Feb/17
@Johnson: you answered your own post to me. And james I agree with as well. You do inflate heights. First off read your post about Ibra. You told me as a matter of fact that "we can't Hearn the number after the 194 so that isn't his true height and we're trying to justify why he is talllwe than 194. And it's not to make him a height it's to make pique taller. You are telling me rose is 6'2.5 when he measured 6'1.5 and people who have met him say he is 6'1. I think I know my height better than anyone else. I am 194cm flat through afternoon and 193.9 at my lowest not 194.5. So yes you are inflating.
Canson said on 25/Feb/17
@Thereel: at most they are the same height. The pics favor Kobe. Kobe is at most 6'5" and this is from a guy who is 6'2" saying he totally believes he's "almost 6'5". So the 195 cm is completely believable for me as I've seen what a real 198-199 in Carmelo Anthony looks like and he's 1.5" minimum taller than Kobe is
Canson said on 25/Feb/17
@Thereel: at most they are the same height. The pics favor Peyton manning over Kobe. Kobe is at most 6'5" and this is from a guy who is 6'2" saying he totally believes he's "almost 6'5". So the 195 cm is completely believable for me as I've seen what a real 198-199 in Carmelo Anthony looks like and he's 1.5" minimum taller than Kobe is
Canson said on 25/Feb/17
@Johnson: thanks for clarifying and I do respect you as a poster. All I was saying is melo has 5" or near on rose. At most they line up to their pre drafts.

@S.J.H: we had the same footwear. I looked. But I doubt Kobe is as Low as 6'4.5. I used to but he looks more legit a 6'5 than Jordan does to me and to most. My friend is a scout and has met both Jordan and Kobe and he's a legit 6'2" barefoot and claims his shoe height of 6'3" some days but he is honest when classing basketball players. He said Kobe looks 6'5 in person or near it Jordan looks my height according to him as does Barkley and my 6'3" friend who has met Barkley more than once standing right next to him looks exactly how I would next to him. Jordan looks tall because of his build. I'm built the same way super long legs for a guy who is truly only closer to 6'4 not 6'5 in my case and I look taller from a distance or up next to a shorter person and when I say I'm 6'4 and change it's always I thought you were 6'6. But I'm not. Kobe looks taller next to rob Harper than Jordan too imho.
Johnson said on 24/Feb/17
@Canson reading your measurements then you are 194 cm or 194.5 cm maximum. But please don't tell me that I inflate heights when I have seen Piqué has measured barefoot 194.7-194.8 and he claims 194 and I am giving him 193.5.
I am against gut busting and I din't consider it valid. Don't make me laugh about inflating...
Johnson said on 24/Feb/17
@Canson I said that my estimations are 2-3 hours after waking up. I stay clear with that affirmation. So when I say "this celebrity is X cm tall" I am saying it according to that philosophy.

Please read it. I don't believe Rose is 189 6-7 hours after waking up. Just read. All normal people say the height in morning in whatever medical test. Saying 6-7 hours is a freak thing!! Haha. As for me I say my evening height but that is why I never got measured early in medicals and because I hold good my height until night.
Thereel said on 24/Feb/17
Another one with peyton manning Click Here

Got to give thanks to dillon rice for that, the poster dillon is the truth
Thereel said on 24/Feb/17
Here with Peyton manning Click Here
S.J.H said on 24/Feb/17

I believe carmelo is 6'6.5 in the morning and 6'6 lowest but those fractional point could be just illusion like if you're 194.0cm at night he would be like 198cm flat depending the footwear he had more on you or less or same i'm not sure but i think kobe look max 1.5" shorter than carmelo def not 1.75 or 2" like some people say. One fact is just 7 months ago when i visit NYC to my cousins apartment i met ben affleck , who get listed 6'2.5-6'2.25 here and i seriously can't see him higher than 6'1.25 in person and just a week later i'm surprise to meet john wall at a weak 6'2 whose listed 6'2.75 without shoes in draftexpress and in person wall look a strong half inch taller than affleck but still fanboys argue he is like 6'2-6'3 no way this low as a fact i've see them up close no posture issue or shoes and could easily tell their height difference like it's a little hard for others to believe stephen curry is only 6'1-6'1.25 in real. I read up a fan visit south korean meet dennis rodman in real say that he was no taller than 6'6 in person and doesn't look as heavy as he get listed (i have doubt on NBA players weight listed higher just like their height), in fact most celebrities and atheletes were under their listing all the time. A few were just 0.25-0.5 shave off listing and most of them get 1'-2' listed higher it's common nowadays just like wrestlers height often get described couple inches higher and right now many people saw 6'4-5/8th charles barkley close up photo with the rock and they still want to believe rock is 6'3-6'4 peak and described barkley as 6'7 plus guy just because they had 3 full inch different in those shots and i've to say rock is 6'2 peak and probably from the shaq and charles barkley comparison he had already down to 6'1-5/8th. As we know that kobe bryant, mj and barkley are not 6'5.5-6'6 range now but there are people will still argue they were taller and give false comments to put up their favourite celebrities here example giving others a brainwash make them think a 5'7 tom cruise being 5'8 tall and shaquille o'neal being 7'1 but not even over 7'0 and i find it a fact that kobe is taller than 6'5.25 listed peyton manning by a 1/4 or at least same height not under and a only real 6'5 taller than both of them is howard stern.
Canson said on 23/Feb/17
@Johnson: no disresepct but no. Now you are inflating my height. I am 195.8 out of bed and 194.9 after 1 hour. After two 194.5 but after 4 usually 194.2-.3. Anyhow rob's definition is 5-7 hrs out of bed. So I claim 194 flat as I am between 194-194.2 after 5-7. So you are the only one talking about something 2-4 hrs. Usually people consider the afternoon (lowest) or just take the pre draft measurement listed whether evening or morning. Now you see that this is a terrible way to compare when two are measured differently maybe even one fraudulently. And clearly I said he's 1.5-2" you automatically took the best case of 2" didn't consider it being inside 2". Either way you're wrong. If Melo is 199.5 that's under but Near 6'6.5. That still puts Rose as 6' 1.5 tops. Melo has him by 5". He's under his eyebrows very clearly. By your logic Melo would be 6'7+ which he only is upon waking up. Height loss by the way for me:

195.8-.9 out of bed
1 hour 194.9
2 hrs 194.5-.6
3 hrs 194.4
4 hrs 194.2-.4
5 hrs 194-194.2 depending on how active
6 hrs 194-194.1
7 hrs 194
After 7 can be 193.9-194 unless I go to the gym or am on my feet then 193.2 is my absolute low I've seen well past midnight

Anyway you slice it you are now increasing other people to make athletes taller
Johnson said on 23/Feb/17
I said that because you said "He had close to 2 full inches on me and I'm 193.9-194 at night". So then if you are that height at night you are 194.5 or 195 2-3 hours after waking up. Then Carmelo being 4-5 cm taller than you he would be 199.5 cm.
Canson said on 23/Feb/17
@James: counsel your boy Johnson lol
Canson said on 23/Feb/17
Johnson: just like James said you and your pseudoscience bs. You come with excuses just to make someone taller. I didn't say anything about 199.5 in any of my posts. Melo is 6'6.25 tops that is what he measured in his draft so no he isn't 199.5 he's at most 198.8. I don't know when Rose measured what he did but any of at you slice it if he is 6'1.5 afternoon (I doubt he is), he'd be 6'2-6'2.25 out of bed. More likely he's at least 5" shorter than Melo is how he looks. You want Rose to be 6'2.5 just to make Griezzmann taller that is it.
Johnson said on 22/Feb/17
@Canson according to what you have just said, you agree with me, Carmelo Anthony is 199.5 cm. (I list morning heights 2-4 hours after waking up). So Rose is 189 cm at that time. Everything is perfect
Canson said on 22/Feb/17
@S.J.H: Melo is at minimum 6'6" nothing less and could be a full 6'6.25. I stood next to him. He had close to 2 full inches on me and I'm 193.9-194 at night. Worst case he was between 1.5-2". I wouldn't go lower than 198.12 cm maybe 6'6 1/8. Kobe in some pics looks 2" shorter but others it's 1.5". I'd say Kobe could be maybe 6'4 5/8 is possible.
Dillon said on 21/Feb/17
It's confusing because different pictures tell different stories. Some pictures indicate he's 6'4.5 to 6'5 and others indicate he's 6'5.5 to 6'6. I posted several pictures to show what I mean. He's shorter than 6'5.5 Vujacic and 6'6.25 Morrison. He's only just barely taller than if not the same height as 6'4.75 Kareem Rush. But then he's taller than 6'5 Peyton Manning by like an inch or so and taller than Conan by like 2 inches.

Here's the link: Click Here
Dillon said on 21/Feb/17
It's confusing because different pictures tell different stories. Some pictures indicate he's 6'4.5 to 6'5 and others indicate he's 6'5.5 to 6'6. I posted several pictures to show what I mean.

Here's the link: Click Here
S.J.H said on 21/Feb/17

Had to be honest Steve Kerr kind of slapping himself because he is not 6'3 as he listed too and often look 6'2ish with Draymond Green. I don't buy Draymond over 6'5 lowest at most he look 1/4 taller than kobe and it's fine for kobe stay 6'4.75 but i have doubts that carmelo anthony might not be as tall as people thought he was 6'6.25-6'7 he might measure 6'6.25 morning but hold well at 6'6 not really 1.5"" taller than kobe and sometimes he doesn't look over 197cm but maybe by lowest he can be around 197.5cm

Click Here carmelo with self confess 171cm hong kong director/actor Stephen Fung (listed 5'8-5'9) compress Fung's hair down carmelo doesn't look over 196cm but carmelo looking pretty relax with posture than Fung. (they had similar footwear from a movie scene)

Click Here 6'2.5 blackie chan with carmelo and Stephen Fung. I suspect blackie might not be over 6'1.5 since Fung is about 5'7.5 and carmelo relax posture still hold 6'5.25 here

Click Here looks wee bit over 3cm or just 3cm kobe leaning slightly more

Click Here carmelo look solid 3cm taller

Click Here kobe maybe half a footstep closer to camera but still can't be 1.5" if they stand side by side more like 1.2-1.3" precisely

Click Here caremlo slouch a little only look solid 0.5-0.6 taller than kobe

I met John wall during lunch hour around 12pm he has to lost some height from there he look 6'2 but when i walk near him take some closer look he look a solid 187cm guy probably just fraction more not quite 6'2 could even be flat 187cm by evening and Wall always look near 3" shorter than kobe if you notice. I just wonder kobe lowest may not be over you at 194cm just that kobe had smaller head than usual 6'4-6'5 guys might give impression being a tap bit taller. I suspect john wall was measure in shoes with thin sole 0.5 boost at 6'2.75 in the morning and true barefoot height 6'2.25 and 6'1.75 afternoon/evening and kobe 6'5 morning just 6'4.5 evening/night as he round down 6'4 to the kid, carmelo 6'6.25 morning and down 6'5.75 evening/night. Another thing is one of my american cousin who was legit 6'0 he met stephen curry several times in Golden State Warriors games at night he told me on facebook curry is between 185 to 186cm probably just big 6'1 as he described not even close to 6'2 as john wall often look 0.5-0.7 taller than curry that make sense. Those draft height most of it measure in early morning and some players wear thin soles get their draft height this reminds me of my high school volley team my coach measure me at 6'6 with shoes i was 16 when i'm not even 6'5 yet at the time but all of my teammates were listed an inch or more taller on our school anniversary year book they put it as player draft height which is a lie.
Jeff said on 17/Feb/17
Rob, you should upgrade him to at least 6'5 because there's no way he is under that
Canson said on 17/Feb/17
@Dillon: green is taller than Kobe by 1/2". Green even his coaches Alvin gentry and Kerr have said is 6'5" not 6'6". If say he's 6'5.25 and Kobe 6'4.75 or green could even be as low as 196. He looks dwarfed next to Kevin Durant like 4-4.5" at times
Canson said on 17/Feb/17
@S.J.H: my guess is Kobe is at least 6'4 2/3 or probably more likely closer 6'4.75 Draymond 6'5-6'5".25. In addition to morning measurements they also inflate (you've met Wall in person as had a friend of mine who is 190.4cm (at night) 6'3 and he said he was 1-1.5" taller). Alvin gentry has said before that green is closer to 6'5 than he is 6'6 and Steve Kerr says he's 6'5" below. My guess is if draymond got measured an hour out of bed he's 6'5 1/2 or 6'5 5/8 and was rounded up and is 6'5 1/8 or 1/4 at night or even 6'5". That makes more sense as I have met Carmelo (as stated several times) and melo is at most 2" taller than I am (193.9 at night on a normal day) so my guess is that melo is 6'6.25 as he looked it. My wife and others all said about 2" one even said 1.5-2". Melo is also 1.5" or so on Kobe Bryant.

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S.J.H said on 16/Feb/17

Click Here Draymond Green get stated at 6'5.75 w/o shoes

Click Here Draymond look a small fraction taller than kobe. If kobe is 6'4.5 as himself claim then Draymond Green is 6'4.75 and at most 6'5 if kobe is 6'4.75
Dillon said on 13/Feb/17
Kobe is the same height as Draymond Green who is just about 6'6. He's also at least 2 inches taller than 6'3 and 3/4 Dwayne Wade. Not to mention he's taller than 6'5 Cam Newton. I could go on and on. And by the way, Carmelo is not 6'6. He's at least 6'7 if not 6'8. He is 2 inches taller than Draymond Green. I'm pretty sure Kobe is 6'6.
Mark(5'9.25 said on 11/Feb/17
Rob, how tall does 6'0.5" Chris Tucker look with Kobe Bryant?

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Editor Rob: when talking together I'd say 184 and near 195 was reasonable to believe.
Peterson188cm said on 10/Feb/17
Kobe Bryant: 195cm / 196cm
Usain Bolt: 193cm / 194cm

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Christian-196.2cm (6ft5.25) said on 3/Feb/17
Editor Rob: I'm limited really by how much I earn, at the moment couldn't even afford a trip to America!


Rob, what is your monthly/annual salary on Celebheights?
Editor Rob: As long as I can pay bills and have a wee bit more, I'm happy 👍
berta said on 30/Jan/17
charels barkley , michael jordan and kobe bryant all looks taller than guys like vince vaughn. they can make others look mutch shorter than their claims . Those guys Kobe looks 196 jordan maybe stronger 196 and bakley looks 197 but could be 196. thats what i think. wjhile vince vaughn was weak 195 peak and maynbe 194,5 today
DetroitMichigan said on 30/Jan/17
S.J.H is very right, probably the better comment I see here for the moment
DetroitMichigan said on 30/Jan/17
Rob, it would be nice that you meet basketball players. I do not know why but I know that many myths will fall. About Bryant I'm not sure, he seems quite smaller than Dennis Rodman
Editor Rob: I'm limited really by how much I earn, at the moment couldn't even afford a trip to America!
S.J.H said on 24/Jan/17
Honestly most celebrities and atheletes just claim higher or get listed higher than their real height. So far i realise all celebrities always look 2-3cm mostly 2cm under their listing standing with kobe bryant.

Click Here minus off rick fox hair he only look at most 0.5' taller than kobe

Click Here minus off ron artest hair look like only 1cm taller than kobe. Artest and Fox is similar in height

Click Here 6'1.5 henry thierry overall look 4" shorter than kobe

Click Here 6'2.5 blackie chen overall look 6-7cm shorter than kobe. Kobe look to be dropping fraction or 1/4' posture leaning

Click Here Kobe look a comfortable 6'6 next to 5'11 david beckham and 5'5 jack ma

Click Here Kobe look an inch taller than 6'4.75 usain bolt minus off bolt hair. Even if bolt had slightly shoe disadvantage kobe is at least 0.75 taller

Click Here Kobe look easily 1.5' taller than 6'4 2 chainz

Click Here Kobe look a least 4.25" taller than 6'1 obama not a 3.75' difference

Click Here how can jay Z be 187cm if kobe is 195cm and this picture obviously tells a solid 4" apart

Click Here jason kidd is say to be 6'3 without shoe and look at least 7cm shorter than kobe from eye to eye and head to head

Click Here similar posture with 6'4 conan o'brien overall look 1.5' taller than conan. don't fool by conan hair look the top of their head and conan head is slightly closer to camera

Click Here 6'1 obama head closer to camera still look 4" shorter than kobe

Click Here kobe looks a head taller than 5'8 jay chou

Kobe is 195/194cm if is true height while the others just listed 2cm or 1" higher like given a morning out of bed height. I found it fine with it even it was height with an inch footwear. I've know a few friends claim their height with shoes. Just example a 5'11 friend claim 6'0. There is some people who claim up 2-3inches and get suspicious by others easily and that is the real cost of lying
Canson said on 19/Jan/17
@S.J.H: Kobe has also claimed 6'6" before so I don't think it's him being uncomfortable with claiming 6'5". I also saw online at his basketball camp that he claimed 6'4.5 barefoot and 6'6 in triple socks and shoes. I'm not sure that's right I'm thinking he's at least 194.6 (6'4 5/8). Maybe he got 6'4.5 after a long day of weightlifting and playing ball which is possible if he wakes to 196-197 out of bed like he does (has to be at least 196.5-.85) if he drops to 6'4 5:8 or 3/4.

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