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6ft 11.93in (213.2cm)
6ft 11.93in (213.2cm)
viper said on 10/Oct/19
Reddick was measured 6-4, supposedly
Reddick was measured 6-4, supposedly
JT said on 10/Oct/19
Click Here Probably before 1975 or 1976 as Andre's not in cowboy boots.
Canson, we can’t assume any measurement time unless it’s documented. Regardless, you have to question how serious some of these measurements really are and if the teams and/or some players are doing something fishy in response to this NBA mandate. I haven't seen anywhere that Harrison Barnes is now officially listed as 6'6" but he's clearly taller than the official listing of 6'6.75" for Doncic Click Here The few Maverick listings that I have seen do seem legit. I'm not surprised Deandre Jordan has an official 6'11" listing with the Nets as he always looked taller than what he measured coming out of college (IIRC 6'9.75").
There’s no way Embiid is only 2 ¼ inches (or only even 3 inches) taller than Simmons. Celtics officially list Gordon Hayward at 6’8” and he's not that tall. Click Here Celtics officially list Tacko Fall at 7’5” (shorter than his afternoon measurement a few months ago) and he said his official listing is wrong and that he is really 7’6”. I also doubt Dwight Howard legitimately measured a flat 6’9” either considering how he matches up to guys like Chris Bosh.
I stood next to Lonzo Ball when he was at UCLA (18 and listed at 6’6”) and he was around an inch
shorter than me (6’5”). I haven’t seen anything indicating that he’s grown since college so if Pelicans officially list him at 6’6” or close to it, that’s a B.S. measurement. Same goes if Pelicans list JJ Redick at 6’4” as I stood next to him getting on an airplane around 4 years ago and he looked 6’2”- 6’3” tops.
Click Here Probably before 1975 or 1976 as Andre's not in cowboy boots.
Canson, we can’t assume any measurement time unless it’s documented. Regardless, you have to question how serious some of these measurements really are and if the teams and/or some players are doing something fishy in response to this NBA mandate. I haven't seen anywhere that Harrison Barnes is now officially listed as 6'6" but he's clearly taller than the official listing of 6'6.75" for Doncic Click Here The few Maverick listings that I have seen do seem legit. I'm not surprised Deandre Jordan has an official 6'11" listing with the Nets as he always looked taller than what he measured coming out of college (IIRC 6'9.75").
There’s no way Embiid is only 2 ¼ inches (or only even 3 inches) taller than Simmons. Celtics officially list Gordon Hayward at 6’8” and he's not that tall. Click Here Celtics officially list Tacko Fall at 7’5” (shorter than his afternoon measurement a few months ago) and he said his official listing is wrong and that he is really 7’6”. I also doubt Dwight Howard legitimately measured a flat 6’9” either considering how he matches up to guys like Chris Bosh.
I stood next to Lonzo Ball when he was at UCLA (18 and listed at 6’6”) and he was around an inch
shorter than me (6’5”). I haven’t seen anything indicating that he’s grown since college so if Pelicans officially list him at 6’6” or close to it, that’s a B.S. measurement. Same goes if Pelicans list JJ Redick at 6’4” as I stood next to him getting on an airplane around 4 years ago and he looked 6’2”- 6’3” tops.
viper said on 9/Oct/19
IMO Simmons measured 6-9 3/8 rounded up to 6-9.5
IMO Simmons measured 6-9 3/8 rounded up to 6-9.5
Canson said on 8/Oct/19
@JT: well Viper has a point. most of them were early morning. That’s if they are correct to begin with. Most teams have players losing just an inch or some none at all. That’s awfully fishy since a lot of guys may measure 6’6.25 and get listed 6’8” and don’t grow after being drafted. Jimmy butler is now listed 6’7” (down from 6’8) and he’s hardly any taller than Draymond. Butler isn’t even as tall as Kawhi. I wouldn’t have expected higher than 6’6” for Butler if it is early morning and afternoon he would be rounded down to 6’5” too most likely. Al horford was 6’9.25 as opposed to 6’8.75 which he was afternoon. Also look at Dallas’s where Barea and Doncic measured. Doncic is clearly shorter than Harrison Barnes who is now listed 6’6” and Barnes is like 1.5” taller than Draymond at best. Maybe less. And It does say it there that he found out this morning (Barea). Training camps begin in the morning and I don’t see why the teams would measure them after they’ve been working out knowing it will make them shorter. The teams are aware of the morning/evening shrinkage. I’m sure that most do what they have to. But I Don’t know about the Warriors or Lakers. Maybe mid morning. I always had Draymond 6’5” (as you know) so that shows his pre draft was early morning since he’s 6’5.75. He’s now listed at 6’5” and Lebron is now 6’7” which I’ve pretty much had him before which he measured this time.
@JT: well Viper has a point. most of them were early morning. That’s if they are correct to begin with. Most teams have players losing just an inch or some none at all. That’s awfully fishy since a lot of guys may measure 6’6.25 and get listed 6’8” and don’t grow after being drafted. Jimmy butler is now listed 6’7” (down from 6’8) and he’s hardly any taller than Draymond. Butler isn’t even as tall as Kawhi. I wouldn’t have expected higher than 6’6” for Butler if it is early morning and afternoon he would be rounded down to 6’5” too most likely. Al horford was 6’9.25 as opposed to 6’8.75 which he was afternoon. Also look at Dallas’s where Barea and Doncic measured. Doncic is clearly shorter than Harrison Barnes who is now listed 6’6” and Barnes is like 1.5” taller than Draymond at best. Maybe less. And It does say it there that he found out this morning (Barea). Training camps begin in the morning and I don’t see why the teams would measure them after they’ve been working out knowing it will make them shorter. The teams are aware of the morning/evening shrinkage. I’m sure that most do what they have to. But I Don’t know about the Warriors or Lakers. Maybe mid morning. I always had Draymond 6’5” (as you know) so that shows his pre draft was early morning since he’s 6’5.75. He’s now listed at 6’5” and Lebron is now 6’7” which I’ve pretty much had him before which he measured this time.
Riccardo 5'7" said on 8/Oct/19
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Probably someone already posted it, but this is a nice video from 1960.
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Probably someone already posted it, but this is a nice video from 1960.
JT said on 7/Oct/19
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viper said on 7/Oct/19
Joel Embiid just measured 6-11.75 early morning, a guy everyone thought was
7-0 at worst afternoon height.
And Ben Simmons just measured 6’9.5” Click Here so I doubt these measurements are going to end the debate here.
Can you post the link showing that all of these measurements took place “early morning.”
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viper said on 7/Oct/19
Joel Embiid just measured 6-11.75 early morning, a guy everyone thought was
7-0 at worst afternoon height.
And Ben Simmons just measured 6’9.5” Click Here so I doubt these measurements are going to end the debate here.
Can you post the link showing that all of these measurements took place “early morning.”
viper said on 7/Oct/19
Joel Embiid just measured 6-11.75 early morning, a guy everyone thought was
7-0 at worst afternoon height.
It's really hard to see Andre as tall as him.
At most I can buy for Andre is 6-11, and maybe just 6-10.5
Joel Embiid just measured 6-11.75 early morning, a guy everyone thought was
7-0 at worst afternoon height.
It's really hard to see Andre as tall as him.
At most I can buy for Andre is 6-11, and maybe just 6-10.5
Wang hung said on 3/Oct/19
More like 6'10
More like 6'10
Halb said on 29/Sep/19
There's no real reason, or evidence posted to suggest André lost any height up until the mid/late 80s. I can see how his back surgery could have delivered this, but even comparing pics of André and Studd at WM1 and WM5, the difference seems the same. When he had his later issues post WM6, then it seems he had real trouble in standing straight without support.
There's no real reason, or evidence posted to suggest André lost any height up until the mid/late 80s. I can see how his back surgery could have delivered this, but even comparing pics of André and Studd at WM1 and WM5, the difference seems the same. When he had his later issues post WM6, then it seems he had real trouble in standing straight without support.
Ancient Aztec Guy said on 29/Sep/19
Hey Gertz, to respond to your comment from last summer, I agree that a lot of younger people don't take into consideration late 60s and early 70s Andre, you have to look back then to appreciate the height of a prime Andre. Also, long time no see DANIMAL!!!
Hey Gertz, to respond to your comment from last summer, I agree that a lot of younger people don't take into consideration late 60s and early 70s Andre, you have to look back then to appreciate the height of a prime Andre. Also, long time no see DANIMAL!!!
ASC said on 28/Sep/19
He’s a tough one. The 1976 video I recently posted shows him ducking under doors as much as a seven footer would. (But I don’t know about footwear.) Also that year, though, he’s described by some sports writers as looking five inches taller than 6’5” Chuck Wepner. I’m more interested in his early career because his aging was not the same as an average person in their 30s and 40s.
He’s a tough one. The 1976 video I recently posted shows him ducking under doors as much as a seven footer would. (But I don’t know about footwear.) Also that year, though, he’s described by some sports writers as looking five inches taller than 6’5” Chuck Wepner. I’m more interested in his early career because his aging was not the same as an average person in their 30s and 40s.
Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Sep/19
@JT
You're right; my bad... you did say you thought Backlund was around 6'0" peak when standing straight:
JT said on 28/Nov/17
Here’s how Backlund (around 6’0”) would look standing straight with Andre Click Here If Backlund was really standing straight with Andre, he’s no more than 5’10” Click Here as Debbie Harry's no more than 5'6" in high heels.
That being said, here he was next to max 5'11" peak Bret Hart, looking shorter:
Click Here Backlund's puffy hair made him look taller.
@JT
You're right; my bad... you did say you thought Backlund was around 6'0" peak when standing straight:
JT said on 28/Nov/17
Here’s how Backlund (around 6’0”) would look standing straight with Andre Click Here If Backlund was really standing straight with Andre, he’s no more than 5’10” Click Here as Debbie Harry's no more than 5'6" in high heels.
That being said, here he was next to max 5'11" peak Bret Hart, looking shorter:
Click Here Backlund's puffy hair made him look taller.
JT said on 25/Sep/19
Re: Maurice Tillet, he was 5’8.5”, or a bit taller than Editor Rob Click Here IIRC, Rob’s head is around 9.5” long so Tillet’s is probably a little over 11” long, far below the 13.5” claim but still huge especially for his height. Big bone structure too. Here's a rough idea how Andre and Tillet would have measured up Click Here
Sotiris, I never thought Backlund was that short. He was probably at least 5’11” and maybe closer to 6’0” peak. In the pic with Andre he’s just craning his neck forward Click Here
Re: Maurice Tillet, he was 5’8.5”, or a bit taller than Editor Rob Click Here IIRC, Rob’s head is around 9.5” long so Tillet’s is probably a little over 11” long, far below the 13.5” claim but still huge especially for his height. Big bone structure too. Here's a rough idea how Andre and Tillet would have measured up Click Here
Sotiris, I never thought Backlund was that short. He was probably at least 5’11” and maybe closer to 6’0” peak. In the pic with Andre he’s just craning his neck forward Click Here
cmillz said on 25/Sep/19
When did Andre start losing height?
When did Andre start losing height?
Roderick said on 23/Sep/19
Rob, I'm curious really, how tall do you think Andre was before his passing?
I think he could have been as low as 6'9" flat.... maybe 6'8.5"..... he lost a LOT of height.
Editor Rob
Rob, I'm curious really, how tall do you think Andre was before his passing?
I think he could have been as low as 6'9" flat.... maybe 6'8.5"..... he lost a LOT of height.
Editor RobMight have seemed near 6ft9, but I feel anywhere in 6ft 9-10 range is possible at his lowest point before passing.
Mm said on 23/Sep/19
JT,
That image of Andre with Hogan shows a past peak Andre. He had already been through back surgery by that time.
JT,
That image of Andre with Hogan shows a past peak Andre. He had already been through back surgery by that time.
Canson said on 23/Sep/19
@JT: I’ve seen pics where he looked shorter than Phil on occasion and only 1.5-2” taller than Jordan on occasion. Jordan was a barefoot 6’4.5” so I would put Pippen minimum 6’6.5” still since he did edge Penny Hardaway who was probably a legit 6’6”. Pippen didn’t look the full 6’7” with 6’7” Grant Hill or 6’6” Penny Hardaway but he does look to be a weak 6’7”.
@JT: I’ve seen pics where he looked shorter than Phil on occasion and only 1.5-2” taller than Jordan on occasion. Jordan was a barefoot 6’4.5” so I would put Pippen minimum 6’6.5” still since he did edge Penny Hardaway who was probably a legit 6’6”. Pippen didn’t look the full 6’7” with 6’7” Grant Hill or 6’6” Penny Hardaway but he does look to be a weak 6’7”.
Riccardo 5'7" said on 23/Sep/19
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Sep/19
@Sotiris
I believe that some of the dimensions are exaggerated in order to make the wrestlers seem bigger. For example, in the WWE, they say that their ring's perimeter is 20" x 20", but it could be more 19" x 19". And also I've heard rumors that the WWE ropes are 5'0" tall, but that's BS. More like 4'6" max.
I think you're definitely right...
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Sep/19
@Sotiris
I believe that some of the dimensions are exaggerated in order to make the wrestlers seem bigger. For example, in the WWE, they say that their ring's perimeter is 20" x 20", but it could be more 19" x 19". And also I've heard rumors that the WWE ropes are 5'0" tall, but that's BS. More like 4'6" max.
I think you're definitely right...
ASC said on 22/Sep/19
One thing to remember with these basketball comparisons is that Andre’s proportions are not like an average NBA player. He would not have such long legs, meaning he would not step step over the rope as easily as Kanter or Shaq.
Also, Andre’s head would be significantly larger than most, so shoulder height could be misleading.
It’s clear to me that Andre was never as tall as Wilt, but I also believe he had an appearance of height loss even by Wrestlemania III. Could be neck angle, spine, joints.
Footage of him from Dallas in 1976 shows a much different build: Click Here
One thing to remember with these basketball comparisons is that Andre’s proportions are not like an average NBA player. He would not have such long legs, meaning he would not step step over the rope as easily as Kanter or Shaq.
Also, Andre’s head would be significantly larger than most, so shoulder height could be misleading.
It’s clear to me that Andre was never as tall as Wilt, but I also believe he had an appearance of height loss even by Wrestlemania III. Could be neck angle, spine, joints.
Footage of him from Dallas in 1976 shows a much different build: Click Here
iconjj said on 22/Sep/19
The top rope comes to Andre's belly button. So use 4'6 as the barometer and you will have Andre's height... if the 4'6 is accurate.
The top rope comes to Andre's belly button. So use 4'6 as the barometer and you will have Andre's height... if the 4'6 is accurate.
Canson said on 22/Sep/19
@Sotiris: yea 6’7” max for Pippen. At times he did look taller than Dennis Rodman but at times they were the same and I could even argue Rodman being taller in one or two pics. Pippen didn’t look by maybe 1/2” or 2cm taller than penny hardaway in pics
@Sotiris: yea 6’7” max for Pippen. At times he did look taller than Dennis Rodman but at times they were the same and I could even argue Rodman being taller in one or two pics. Pippen didn’t look by maybe 1/2” or 2cm taller than penny hardaway in pics
JT said on 22/Sep/19
Another example of what a real 7 footer is supposed to look like with a 6’5” guy. Click Here
Re: Scottie Pippen Click Here that’s what he generally looked with MJ and Phil Jackson, who NBA listed at 6’8” and still looked 6’7” up until even a few years ago, meaning he was a little taller when coaching the Bulls. Click Here Click Here Pippen does look like he’s lost some height currently, which would be surprising for his age although it may be posture-related to some extent.
That comparison looks pretty close, RoelC. Gordon Solie is another guy who stood next to Andre (in cowboy boots here) and Undertaker (as Mean Mark in WCW). Click Here The interview with Mean Mark was from Great American Bash 1990 but it does not look to be online anymore.
Another example of what a real 7 footer is supposed to look like with a 6’5” guy. Click Here
Re: Scottie Pippen Click Here that’s what he generally looked with MJ and Phil Jackson, who NBA listed at 6’8” and still looked 6’7” up until even a few years ago, meaning he was a little taller when coaching the Bulls. Click Here Click Here Pippen does look like he’s lost some height currently, which would be surprising for his age although it may be posture-related to some extent.
That comparison looks pretty close, RoelC. Gordon Solie is another guy who stood next to Andre (in cowboy boots here) and Undertaker (as Mean Mark in WCW). Click Here The interview with Mean Mark was from Great American Bash 1990 but it does not look to be online anymore.
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Sep/19
Boss said on 20/Sep/19
Regarding Andre's head size.
Here with Hogan face to face Andre's head comes out 13.05".
Click Here
Here is Maurice Tillet head mold measured at 13.5". The head mold itself measures 13.5" as any of you can verify by going to Maurice Tillet website and the guy who owns the mold will give you any details. Maurice's actual head would be 12" range.
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Andre's head was longer than Maurice's head.
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You're assuming those Andre/Hogan/Tillet comparison pics are 100% to scale... which isn't a foregone conclusion.
As for Tillet's supposed life-size head sculpt, that's something I already posted here, and is clearly false advertising, when his head was actually around 11.5" long, not 12" range... Click Here It was documented that the root of his nose to his chin measured 7".
Andre enthusiasts earnestly cling to the misbegotten notion that his head was bigger so as to justify an inflated height. Andre's head was max 12" long and his height never exceeded 6'10.5". Pics next to Wilt Chamberlain prove this. Venturing to suggest anything to the contrary is pure folly and an exercise in futility.
My best advice: find a useful distraction to try and numb the pain of reality:
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Boss said on 20/Sep/19
Regarding Andre's head size.
Here with Hogan face to face Andre's head comes out 13.05".
Click Here
Here is Maurice Tillet head mold measured at 13.5". The head mold itself measures 13.5" as any of you can verify by going to Maurice Tillet website and the guy who owns the mold will give you any details. Maurice's actual head would be 12" range.
Click Here
Click Here
Andre's head was longer than Maurice's head.
Click Here
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You're assuming those Andre/Hogan/Tillet comparison pics are 100% to scale... which isn't a foregone conclusion.
As for Tillet's supposed life-size head sculpt, that's something I already posted here, and is clearly false advertising, when his head was actually around 11.5" long, not 12" range... Click Here It was documented that the root of his nose to his chin measured 7".
Andre enthusiasts earnestly cling to the misbegotten notion that his head was bigger so as to justify an inflated height. Andre's head was max 12" long and his height never exceeded 6'10.5". Pics next to Wilt Chamberlain prove this. Venturing to suggest anything to the contrary is pure folly and an exercise in futility.
My best advice: find a useful distraction to try and numb the pain of reality:
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Sep/19
Here's Shaq getting into the ring to compare w/ Andre... Click Here Again, Andre was never 7 feet tall.
@Forgotmyname
Here's max 6'4" Barry Windham w/ Mike Graham... Click Here , Click Here
Superimposed Andre pic w/ 5'3" (5'6" in heels) Debbie Harry & Mike Graham... Click Here
While true that my comparison pic w/ Andre wasn't 100% to scale, saying that it was "totally out of proportion" is nonsense. Part of the reason I look big next to Andre is b/c I am big. Currently at 285 lbs, I'm not exactly a lightweight. That said, we're agreed that Andre was probably 6'10.5". Wilt's heels were 0.5" BTW. Also agree that Andre's height came more from a long torso, not crazy long Conan O'Brien legs...
@JT
I sent a post where I basically agreed w/ you that comparison pics can't be 100% accurate if they have a different camera height/angle... but it never went through for some reason.
I differ w/ you on Pippen being 6'7.5". I doubt he was ever more than 6'7" and looks to be under it now. Pippen next to a bald 6'7" Magic... Click Here Also, my head isn't exactly small... it's around 10.5" long and part of the reason it looks bigger is b/c my mouth is open, causing my chin to obviously hang lower.
Going back on old posts, I saw that you thought Bob Backlund might have been as low as 5'10", something I also agreed w/. This was your superimposed pic of Backlund/Debbie/Andre Click Here
Here's your pic of Backlund w/ mabye 5'10.5" Jerry Lawler... Click Here
In these pics, Backlund looks much shorter... Click Here , Click Here Both Jerry Lawler and Tommy Rich were billed as 6'0", whereas Backlund was billed as 6'1". Here's a recent pic of Backlund w/ 6'1" Ryback in a "Battle of the Backs" pic... Click Here Video footage of Lawler w/ max 5'11" Ric Flair... Click Here
Barefoot Andre w/ max 5'11" peak height (currently max 5'10") Bret Hart... Click Here
Bret w/ a height boost of max 1.25" puts Andre at max 6'10.5", even w/ a max 12-inch-long head... never Rob's listing of 7 feet.
Here's Shaq getting into the ring to compare w/ Andre... Click Here Again, Andre was never 7 feet tall.
@Forgotmyname
Here's max 6'4" Barry Windham w/ Mike Graham... Click Here , Click Here
Superimposed Andre pic w/ 5'3" (5'6" in heels) Debbie Harry & Mike Graham... Click Here
While true that my comparison pic w/ Andre wasn't 100% to scale, saying that it was "totally out of proportion" is nonsense. Part of the reason I look big next to Andre is b/c I am big. Currently at 285 lbs, I'm not exactly a lightweight. That said, we're agreed that Andre was probably 6'10.5". Wilt's heels were 0.5" BTW. Also agree that Andre's height came more from a long torso, not crazy long Conan O'Brien legs...
@JT
I sent a post where I basically agreed w/ you that comparison pics can't be 100% accurate if they have a different camera height/angle... but it never went through for some reason.
I differ w/ you on Pippen being 6'7.5". I doubt he was ever more than 6'7" and looks to be under it now. Pippen next to a bald 6'7" Magic... Click Here Also, my head isn't exactly small... it's around 10.5" long and part of the reason it looks bigger is b/c my mouth is open, causing my chin to obviously hang lower.
Going back on old posts, I saw that you thought Bob Backlund might have been as low as 5'10", something I also agreed w/. This was your superimposed pic of Backlund/Debbie/Andre Click Here
Here's your pic of Backlund w/ mabye 5'10.5" Jerry Lawler... Click Here
In these pics, Backlund looks much shorter... Click Here , Click Here Both Jerry Lawler and Tommy Rich were billed as 6'0", whereas Backlund was billed as 6'1". Here's a recent pic of Backlund w/ 6'1" Ryback in a "Battle of the Backs" pic... Click Here Video footage of Lawler w/ max 5'11" Ric Flair... Click Here
Barefoot Andre w/ max 5'11" peak height (currently max 5'10") Bret Hart... Click Here
Bret w/ a height boost of max 1.25" puts Andre at max 6'10.5", even w/ a max 12-inch-long head... never Rob's listing of 7 feet.
184guy2 said on 20/Sep/19
@RoelC
Well Done !!! Andre looks no less than 3-4 inches taller than Taker , in 1991 when he was already broken Down . He also had good inches on Jake the Snake .
@RoelC
Well Done !!! Andre looks no less than 3-4 inches taller than Taker , in 1991 when he was already broken Down . He also had good inches on Jake the Snake .
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Sep/19
@Sotiris
I believe that some of the dimensions are exaggerated in order to make the wrestlers seem bigger. For example, in the WWE, they say that their ring's perimeter is 20" x 20", but it could be more 19" x 19". And also I've heard rumors that the WWE ropes are 5'0" tall, but that's BS. More like 4'6" max.
@Sotiris
I believe that some of the dimensions are exaggerated in order to make the wrestlers seem bigger. For example, in the WWE, they say that their ring's perimeter is 20" x 20", but it could be more 19" x 19". And also I've heard rumors that the WWE ropes are 5'0" tall, but that's BS. More like 4'6" max.
Canson said on 20/Sep/19
RoelC said on 19/Sep/19
JT said on 15/Sep/19
Here are a few comparison photos with Andre/Hogan and others from close camera angles
Click Here Pippen measured 6’7.5” w/o shoes so that’s basically how Undertaker or Kane would have looked next to a 1987 Andre
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Although we have yet to find any footage of Andre & Undertaker together, both men did appear at a WWF event in MSG in 1991. They were both interviewed seperately by Sean Mooney on the same spot.
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With the aid of PS you can blend the 2 images together.
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And get something like this
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Andre is on crutches there, so he's probably unable to extend to his full height. Undertaker isn't standing straight either.
I have a very hard time believing Pippen was ever that tall. He’s not even as tall as Magic who measured around that mark. I wonder if he was really close to half and not just over 7 and they didn’t round him up. Also don’t know what time of the day. I think Rob’s 6’7” listing is an absolute best case seeing as how Michael jordan was only 6’4.5”. Magic may be closer to the camera and Scottie very well having had a longer career than Magic and several back and knee surgeries could’ve lost height today but Pippen is still shorter even with that. Pippen is 6’6” range at best today at least. I don’t disagree with JT about them being similar in height because Taker may have just been 6’7” peak too or a hair over (201)
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RoelC said on 19/Sep/19
JT said on 15/Sep/19
Here are a few comparison photos with Andre/Hogan and others from close camera angles
Click Here Pippen measured 6’7.5” w/o shoes so that’s basically how Undertaker or Kane would have looked next to a 1987 Andre
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Although we have yet to find any footage of Andre & Undertaker together, both men did appear at a WWF event in MSG in 1991. They were both interviewed seperately by Sean Mooney on the same spot.
Click Here
With the aid of PS you can blend the 2 images together.
Click Here
And get something like this
Click Here
Andre is on crutches there, so he's probably unable to extend to his full height. Undertaker isn't standing straight either.
I have a very hard time believing Pippen was ever that tall. He’s not even as tall as Magic who measured around that mark. I wonder if he was really close to half and not just over 7 and they didn’t round him up. Also don’t know what time of the day. I think Rob’s 6’7” listing is an absolute best case seeing as how Michael jordan was only 6’4.5”. Magic may be closer to the camera and Scottie very well having had a longer career than Magic and several back and knee surgeries could’ve lost height today but Pippen is still shorter even with that. Pippen is 6’6” range at best today at least. I don’t disagree with JT about them being similar in height because Taker may have just been 6’7” peak too or a hair over (201)
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Boss said on 20/Sep/19
Regarding Andre's head size.
Here with Hogan face to face Andre's head comes out 13.05".
Click Here
Here is Maurice Tillet head mold measured at 13.5". The head mold itself measures 13.5" as any of you can verify by going to Maurice Tillet website and the guy who owns the mold will give you any details. Maurice's actual head would be 12" range.
Click Here
Click Here
Andre's head was longer than Maurice's head.
Click Here
Regarding Andre's head size.
Here with Hogan face to face Andre's head comes out 13.05".
Click Here
Here is Maurice Tillet head mold measured at 13.5". The head mold itself measures 13.5" as any of you can verify by going to Maurice Tillet website and the guy who owns the mold will give you any details. Maurice's actual head would be 12" range.
Click Here
Click Here
Andre's head was longer than Maurice's head.
Click Here
Riccardo 5'7" said on 20/Sep/19
Sotiris Gravas
I think this one is a better comparison ropes/wrestlers Click Here
Sotiris Gravas
I think this one is a better comparison ropes/wrestlers Click Here
RoelC said on 19/Sep/19
JT said on 15/Sep/19
Here are a few comparison photos with Andre/Hogan and others from close camera angles
Click Here Pippen measured 6’7.5” w/o shoes so that’s basically how Undertaker or Kane would have looked next to a 1987 Andre
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Although we have yet to find any footage of Andre & Undertaker together, both men did appear at a WWF event in MSG in 1991. They were both interviewed seperately by Sean Mooney on the same spot.
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With the aid of PS you can blend the 2 images together.
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And get something like this
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Andre is on crutches there, so he's probably unable to extend to his full height. Undertaker isn't standing straight either.
JT said on 15/Sep/19
Here are a few comparison photos with Andre/Hogan and others from close camera angles
Click Here Pippen measured 6’7.5” w/o shoes so that’s basically how Undertaker or Kane would have looked next to a 1987 Andre
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Although we have yet to find any footage of Andre & Undertaker together, both men did appear at a WWF event in MSG in 1991. They were both interviewed seperately by Sean Mooney on the same spot.
Click Here
With the aid of PS you can blend the 2 images together.
Click Here
And get something like this
Click Here
Andre is on crutches there, so he's probably unable to extend to his full height. Undertaker isn't standing straight either.
Creeper said on 19/Sep/19
I am going with 7'1 minimum. Im not seeing what you guys are seeing. 6'10 range estimates are way too low
I am going with 7'1 minimum. Im not seeing what you guys are seeing. 6'10 range estimates are way too low
Forgotmyname said on 18/Sep/19
Oh by the way. For the 7 foot fraction I have another one. Andre and Wilt sans Arnold. You see, there are some factors to be considered here. First of all, yes Andre wears boots with larger heels here. But if you zoom in you will see that Wilt also has a little heel on his boots and his thick wig pretty much nullifies Andre´s advantage here. Second, Andre is standing further in the background. If he came closer he would look bigger. Nonetheless, you can also see that Chamberlain is the taller man. If he´d stand up straight he would have Andre by 2 inches. Andre was between 6´10" and 6´11" depending on physical health. He had very poor posture from the mid 80´s on and slouch down to looking 6´9". Same with Big Show today. I personally don´t think Big Show was ever much taller than Andre. He wore very thick boots early in his career and later with large opponents. Look what height he looks like right now. Do wrestler´s tend to lose so much height?
As for Kanter: That´s because he has longer legs, just like Kevin Nash.
Oh by the way. For the 7 foot fraction I have another one. Andre and Wilt sans Arnold. You see, there are some factors to be considered here. First of all, yes Andre wears boots with larger heels here. But if you zoom in you will see that Wilt also has a little heel on his boots and his thick wig pretty much nullifies Andre´s advantage here. Second, Andre is standing further in the background. If he came closer he would look bigger. Nonetheless, you can also see that Chamberlain is the taller man. If he´d stand up straight he would have Andre by 2 inches. Andre was between 6´10" and 6´11" depending on physical health. He had very poor posture from the mid 80´s on and slouch down to looking 6´9". Same with Big Show today. I personally don´t think Big Show was ever much taller than Andre. He wore very thick boots early in his career and later with large opponents. Look what height he looks like right now. Do wrestler´s tend to lose so much height?
As for Kanter: That´s because he has longer legs, just like Kevin Nash.
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Sep/19
That's me in my early 20s standing inside something that's 4 feet high... Click Here , Click Here I'm slouching and my pants are very low on my hips, but that's what I would look like next to a WCW top rope that's 4 feet off the mat... Click Here
Wrestlers next to ropes that are supposedly 4'6" off the mat:
Andre... Click Here , Click Here , (1976) Click Here
Silo Sam... Click Here
Big Show... Click Here , Click Here
Uncle Elmer (barefoot)... Click Here
Tex McKenzie... Click Here
Giant Baba... Click Here
Matt Morgan... Click Here
Ernie Ladd and Gorilla Monsoon... Click Here , Click Here
Bobo Brazil... Click Here
Studd... Click Here
Hogan... Click Here
Check out Undertaker nowadays next to the ropes... Click Here
That's me in my early 20s standing inside something that's 4 feet high... Click Here , Click Here I'm slouching and my pants are very low on my hips, but that's what I would look like next to a WCW top rope that's 4 feet off the mat... Click Here
Wrestlers next to ropes that are supposedly 4'6" off the mat:
Andre... Click Here , Click Here , (1976) Click Here
Silo Sam... Click Here
Big Show... Click Here , Click Here
Uncle Elmer (barefoot)... Click Here
Tex McKenzie... Click Here
Giant Baba... Click Here
Matt Morgan... Click Here
Ernie Ladd and Gorilla Monsoon... Click Here , Click Here
Bobo Brazil... Click Here
Studd... Click Here
Hogan... Click Here
Check out Undertaker nowadays next to the ropes... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Sep/19
When I first came to this site over a year ago, I actually thought that Andre might be as low as 6'8", given how tall I looked next to ppl, believing I was only 6'6" (boy, did I get bashed over that)... Obviously, knowing I'm really 6'7" puts things into perspective. I find it interesting that Vitali Klitschko has said that he's really 6'6", even though I peg him at 6'6.5" and Editor Rob lists him as 6'7". The absolute best was a poster named Daniel reynolds who thought that Vitali was 6'11". Andre was never even 6'11" IMO. Max 6'10.5".
@Editor Rob
What's the likelihood of you ever downgrading Andre the way you did Big Show?
Editor Rob
When I first came to this site over a year ago, I actually thought that Andre might be as low as 6'8", given how tall I looked next to ppl, believing I was only 6'6" (boy, did I get bashed over that)... Obviously, knowing I'm really 6'7" puts things into perspective. I find it interesting that Vitali Klitschko has said that he's really 6'6", even though I peg him at 6'6.5" and Editor Rob lists him as 6'7". The absolute best was a poster named Daniel reynolds who thought that Vitali was 6'11". Andre was never even 6'11" IMO. Max 6'10.5".
@Editor Rob
What's the likelihood of you ever downgrading Andre the way you did Big Show?
Editor RobHe's held this mark a long time now, I have not seen enough to think a drastic change was possible.
Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Sep/19
@Christian
I definitely agree that Andre plodded his way into the ring due to his excess weight, as opposed to a far more lithe Kanter -- who tippytoed his way -- but I was implying that Andre was certainly never 7 feet tall by comparison -- much closer to 6'10". It has me wondering if maybe the ring ropes were perhaps higher back then...
Anyone know if the height of the ropes has been set in stone since day one? Online, I saw 4'6" above the mat for the WWE and 4'0" for the WCW...
@Christian
I definitely agree that Andre plodded his way into the ring due to his excess weight, as opposed to a far more lithe Kanter -- who tippytoed his way -- but I was implying that Andre was certainly never 7 feet tall by comparison -- much closer to 6'10". It has me wondering if maybe the ring ropes were perhaps higher back then...
Anyone know if the height of the ropes has been set in stone since day one? Online, I saw 4'6" above the mat for the WWE and 4'0" for the WCW...
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 17/Sep/19
@Mm
I agree that it's not the best comparison, but at least it was an illustration to see how a 6'7" guy could possibly look next to Andre.
@Mm
I agree that it's not the best comparison, but at least it was an illustration to see how a 6'7" guy could possibly look next to Andre.
Kyle Johnson said on 17/Sep/19
Personally I've always said a solid 7ft, with either a 1/4"-1/2" above or below that mark up to the early 80's. His poor posture in certain pics does belie this because of his build. By the time of the Wilt photos, Andre was 37 or 38, with the wear and tear from wrestling, his then diagnosed but never treated Acromegaly,and a broken ankle, he was a solid 6'11" outside of his boots. By Wrestlemania 3 and his back surgery, his poor posture made him 6'9" in the staredown with Hogan, but was likely 6'10". By 1992, Andre who couldn't stand up straight anymore, and was pushing 550lbs, was likely 6'9.5" but slouched so low in his crutches he would often look 6'7.5" or so.
Peak Andre: 7', 7'0.5" Max
Past peak/early 80's: 6'11"
Early 90's: 6'9.5"
Total height loss of 2.5-3" due to surgeries, lifestyle, and the rapid aging effects of untreated Acromegaly.
Personally I've always said a solid 7ft, with either a 1/4"-1/2" above or below that mark up to the early 80's. His poor posture in certain pics does belie this because of his build. By the time of the Wilt photos, Andre was 37 or 38, with the wear and tear from wrestling, his then diagnosed but never treated Acromegaly,and a broken ankle, he was a solid 6'11" outside of his boots. By Wrestlemania 3 and his back surgery, his poor posture made him 6'9" in the staredown with Hogan, but was likely 6'10". By 1992, Andre who couldn't stand up straight anymore, and was pushing 550lbs, was likely 6'9.5" but slouched so low in his crutches he would often look 6'7.5" or so.
Peak Andre: 7', 7'0.5" Max
Past peak/early 80's: 6'11"
Early 90's: 6'9.5"
Total height loss of 2.5-3" due to surgeries, lifestyle, and the rapid aging effects of untreated Acromegaly.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 17/Sep/19
@Sotiris
I think the fact that Kanter's a lot slimmer and agile than Andre was is the reason why, it has nothing to do with height.
@Sotiris
I think the fact that Kanter's a lot slimmer and agile than Andre was is the reason why, it has nothing to do with height.
Mm said on 16/Sep/19
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Sep/19
@Forgotmyname
I don't think Sotiris is implying that he was as tall as Andre. He was just using it as a comparison.
As soon as I looked at the images I knew it wasn’t a good comparison. Andre looks smallish, which is enough for me to know the scale is off.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Sep/19
@Forgotmyname
I don't think Sotiris is implying that he was as tall as Andre. He was just using it as a comparison.
As soon as I looked at the images I knew it wasn’t a good comparison. Andre looks smallish, which is enough for me to know the scale is off.
edwards said on 16/Sep/19
Sotiris gravas is a big guy.actually he is one of those people who wants people to believe in reality rather than any Kay-Fabe and blind beliefs on height .like some of the posters here believe.unlike sime fanboys who claims hogan 6’7 and taker 6’8/9 .
Sotiris gravas is a big guy.actually he is one of those people who wants people to believe in reality rather than any Kay-Fabe and blind beliefs on height .like some of the posters here believe.unlike sime fanboys who claims hogan 6’7 and taker 6’8/9 .
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Sep/19
@Forgotmyname
I don't think Sotiris is implying that he was as tall as Andre. He was just using it as a comparison.
@Forgotmyname
I don't think Sotiris is implying that he was as tall as Andre. He was just using it as a comparison.
Sotiris Gravas said on 16/Sep/19
Here's Andre getting into the ring... Click Here
Now, compare that w/ 6'9.25" Enes Kanter doing it far more effortlessly Click Here
Big difference (pardon the pun).
Kanter next to maybe 6'11.5" Shaq... Click Here
In other words, Andre was never 7 feet tall. Does that mean Editor Rob should downgrade him? It most certainly does... the same way he did Big Show, who also was also never 7'0".
Here's Andre getting into the ring... Click Here
Now, compare that w/ 6'9.25" Enes Kanter doing it far more effortlessly Click Here
Big difference (pardon the pun).
Kanter next to maybe 6'11.5" Shaq... Click Here
In other words, Andre was never 7 feet tall. Does that mean Editor Rob should downgrade him? It most certainly does... the same way he did Big Show, who also was also never 7'0".
JT said on 15/Sep/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 14/Sep/19
@Roderick
Me vs. Andre... Click Here
The camera angle is too high with you and your mom to make a good comparison, which is evident by the angle of the floor and your feet and the fact that your head ends up looking around the size of Andre’s b/c of the higher camera. Not sure if Graham is a full 5’6” though. Graham looked a little shorter next to Andre than Debbie Harry in heels did so he may be under 5’6”. Dan Spivey said Graham was 5’2” but he wasn’t that short.
Here are a few comparison photos with Andre/Hogan and others from close camera angles
Click Here Pippen measured 6’7.5” w/o shoes so that’s basically how Undertaker or Kane would have looked next to a 1987 Andre.
Click Here
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 14/Sep/19
@Roderick
Me vs. Andre... Click Here
The camera angle is too high with you and your mom to make a good comparison, which is evident by the angle of the floor and your feet and the fact that your head ends up looking around the size of Andre’s b/c of the higher camera. Not sure if Graham is a full 5’6” though. Graham looked a little shorter next to Andre than Debbie Harry in heels did so he may be under 5’6”. Dan Spivey said Graham was 5’2” but he wasn’t that short.
Here are a few comparison photos with Andre/Hogan and others from close camera angles
Click Here Pippen measured 6’7.5” w/o shoes so that’s basically how Undertaker or Kane would have looked next to a 1987 Andre.
Click Here
Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Sep/19
@Roderick
A height of 6'7" really isn't that tall, but does look more freaky when wearing shoes. For a while I was wearing beat-up sunken-in running shoes due to my weight and overuse that gave me very little height boost. Now, w/ new sneaks, I look even taller and get stared at more -- which I hate. My dad was supposedly 5'11.5" peak height. I thought he was only 5'9" now, but he's really 5'9.5". As for my grandfather, he died before I was born and would have to ask about his height. My head is definitely more than 10" long.
As for the Andre pic I paired w/ myself... it's impossible to match up pics like that w/ 100% accuracy when they're taken from different heights/angles. I ended up looking 6'8", 6'9" in shoes, next to a maybe 6'10.5" barefoot Andre who was wearing thin, maybe 0.25-inch soles. So, trying to gauge Andre's height from my pic won't be precise. I simply wanted to show that Andre was never 7'5".
@Roderick
A height of 6'7" really isn't that tall, but does look more freaky when wearing shoes. For a while I was wearing beat-up sunken-in running shoes due to my weight and overuse that gave me very little height boost. Now, w/ new sneaks, I look even taller and get stared at more -- which I hate. My dad was supposedly 5'11.5" peak height. I thought he was only 5'9" now, but he's really 5'9.5". As for my grandfather, he died before I was born and would have to ask about his height. My head is definitely more than 10" long.
As for the Andre pic I paired w/ myself... it's impossible to match up pics like that w/ 100% accuracy when they're taken from different heights/angles. I ended up looking 6'8", 6'9" in shoes, next to a maybe 6'10.5" barefoot Andre who was wearing thin, maybe 0.25-inch soles. So, trying to gauge Andre's height from my pic won't be precise. I simply wanted to show that Andre was never 7'5".
Forgotmyname said on 15/Sep/19
Sortiris, with all due respect: I honestly don't think you are as large as a professional wrestler with acromegaly who weighs over 400 pounds. Your picture is totally out of proportion. Looking at this, you are as large there as The Big Show in some of your own comparison pics.
If Mike Graham is 5'6", how tall does that make Kevin Sullivan? Click Here or even Gene Okerlund? Click Here
Ron Fuller was supposedly measured at 6´7" in basketball and usually billed at 6´9". Give or take an inch. Here he is with Andre. If anyone would be wearing cowboy boots here, it would be Fuller. (not saying he does) Andre dwarfs him here. Click Here
For comparison: Ron Fuller and another tall guy David von Erich Click Here
Sortiris, with all due respect: I honestly don't think you are as large as a professional wrestler with acromegaly who weighs over 400 pounds. Your picture is totally out of proportion. Looking at this, you are as large there as The Big Show in some of your own comparison pics.
If Mike Graham is 5'6", how tall does that make Kevin Sullivan? Click Here or even Gene Okerlund? Click Here
Ron Fuller was supposedly measured at 6´7" in basketball and usually billed at 6´9". Give or take an inch. Here he is with Andre. If anyone would be wearing cowboy boots here, it would be Fuller. (not saying he does) Andre dwarfs him here. Click Here
For comparison: Ron Fuller and another tall guy David von Erich Click Here
Forgotmyname said on 15/Sep/19
Sortiris, with all due respect: I honestly don't think you are as large as a professional wrestler with acromegaly who weighs over 400 pounds. Your picture is totally out of proportion. Looking at this, you are as large there as The Big Show in some of your own comparison pics.
If Mike Graham is 5'6", how tall does that make Kevin Sullivan? Click Here or even Gene Okerlund? Click Here
Ron Fuller was supposedly measured at 6´7" in basketball and usually billed at 6´9". Give or take an inch. Here he is with Andre. If anyone would be wearing cowboy boots here, it would be Fuller. (not saying he does) Andre dwarfs him here. Click Here
For comparison: Ron Fuller and another tall guy David von Erich Click Here
Sortiris, with all due respect: I honestly don't think you are as large as a professional wrestler with acromegaly who weighs over 400 pounds. Your picture is totally out of proportion. Looking at this, you are as large there as The Big Show in some of your own comparison pics.
If Mike Graham is 5'6", how tall does that make Kevin Sullivan? Click Here or even Gene Okerlund? Click Here
Ron Fuller was supposedly measured at 6´7" in basketball and usually billed at 6´9". Give or take an inch. Here he is with Andre. If anyone would be wearing cowboy boots here, it would be Fuller. (not saying he does) Andre dwarfs him here. Click Here
For comparison: Ron Fuller and another tall guy David von Erich Click Here
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Sep/19
@Canson
It could've been around a foot long. Certainly not anything over 13" though.
@Canson
It could've been around a foot long. Certainly not anything over 13" though.
Roderick said on 14/Sep/19
@Sotiris WOW, you are tall. When people meet you, do they ever guess you as being like 6'9" or 6'10"? How tall was your dad, or grandfather?
To be honest, those photos aren't proportioned identically and Andre looks smaller there. Honestly I'm not an expert on head size, but if Andre's head was 12", and yours is lets say, 10", I think Andre looks 6'9.5" there, because you look to have the edge as far as the shoulders, but I'm not convinced your head was as big as his. If your head is 10.5", then I think he looks just 6'9" there. If your head is just 9.5", then I think Andre looks 6'10" there, you get the idea right?
But even you say he was at least 6'10" peak so we agree right?
@Sotiris WOW, you are tall. When people meet you, do they ever guess you as being like 6'9" or 6'10"? How tall was your dad, or grandfather?
To be honest, those photos aren't proportioned identically and Andre looks smaller there. Honestly I'm not an expert on head size, but if Andre's head was 12", and yours is lets say, 10", I think Andre looks 6'9.5" there, because you look to have the edge as far as the shoulders, but I'm not convinced your head was as big as his. If your head is 10.5", then I think he looks just 6'9" there. If your head is just 9.5", then I think Andre looks 6'10" there, you get the idea right?
But even you say he was at least 6'10" peak so we agree right?
cmillz said on 14/Sep/19
Even 6’10 peak is too low imo. I wonder if some people are underestimating him a bit because of his gigantic head. I mean, he had at least a 12 inch long head, right?
Even 6’10 peak is too low imo. I wonder if some people are underestimating him a bit because of his gigantic head. I mean, he had at least a 12 inch long head, right?
Riccardo 5'7" said on 13/Sep/19
@RP
I would say 6'10" max André and at least 5 inches shorter hogan, so I agree.
On hogan's weight I would say 270 more than 280 but not 295.
@RP
I would say 6'10" max André and at least 5 inches shorter hogan, so I agree.
On hogan's weight I would say 270 more than 280 but not 295.
Roderick said on 13/Sep/19
IMO, his peak was minimum 6'10".
IMO, his peak was minimum 6'10".
Mm said on 11/Sep/19
@ marley,
That’s too low. His peak height was somewhere between 6’11-7’0.
Andre had at least 12” over 5’11 Bob Uecker (MLB listed height @6’1). And that interview of Andre was in 1988, which was post back surgery. One could make a reasonable argument of 6’11ish peak height, but he was certainly taller than 6’8 /6’9,
@ marley,
That’s too low. His peak height was somewhere between 6’11-7’0.
Andre had at least 12” over 5’11 Bob Uecker (MLB listed height @6’1). And that interview of Andre was in 1988, which was post back surgery. One could make a reasonable argument of 6’11ish peak height, but he was certainly taller than 6’8 /6’9,
RP said on 11/Sep/19
@ Riccardo 5’7”
I’ve seen that match a few times. Classic AWA action. It was filmed standard, with NO camera angle tricks. And I’ve got to admit...both Hogan & Andre look smaller there, than they did in matches filmed with camera angle tricks. By knowing how big Bockwinkle & Heenan were in real life, to me...Hogan only looks 6’5” & 280-285 lbs there. And Andre looks 6’10”-ish & 430-440 lbs. could Hogan have been 295 instead of 285 there? Sure, but...that would be my absolute max guess in that match. No way was Andre over 440 lbs in that match. And, I don’t even see him clearing 6’11” there...6’10” to 6’10.5” max is all I can honestly give him from that match filming. As much as I’d love to give Andre a legit 7’0”...I’m now saying 6’10.5” true barefoot height in the early 1980’s.
@ Riccardo 5’7”
I’ve seen that match a few times. Classic AWA action. It was filmed standard, with NO camera angle tricks. And I’ve got to admit...both Hogan & Andre look smaller there, than they did in matches filmed with camera angle tricks. By knowing how big Bockwinkle & Heenan were in real life, to me...Hogan only looks 6’5” & 280-285 lbs there. And Andre looks 6’10”-ish & 430-440 lbs. could Hogan have been 295 instead of 285 there? Sure, but...that would be my absolute max guess in that match. No way was Andre over 440 lbs in that match. And, I don’t even see him clearing 6’11” there...6’10” to 6’10.5” max is all I can honestly give him from that match filming. As much as I’d love to give Andre a legit 7’0”...I’m now saying 6’10.5” true barefoot height in the early 1980’s.
edwards said on 10/Sep/19
weak 7 feet can be likely for andre the jiant at peak.maybe 6'11.5 is also possible.
weak 7 feet can be likely for andre the jiant at peak.maybe 6'11.5 is also possible.
tree said on 9/Sep/19
@marley
Newcomer?
@marley
Newcomer?
Roderick said on 8/Sep/19
@tree He's referring to a book I believe. Honestly I doubt the legitimacy of those measurements, they could have counted his hair height (which is probably the case). I don't know where he got the 6'2" shoulder measurement from, however. That's interesting.
IMO 6'11" is ok for his peak
@tree He's referring to a book I believe. Honestly I doubt the legitimacy of those measurements, they could have counted his hair height (which is probably the case). I don't know where he got the 6'2" shoulder measurement from, however. That's interesting.
IMO 6'11" is ok for his peak
Canson said on 8/Sep/19
@Christian: how large would you say his head is? Also I doubt he was ever 7’. I would say 6’11 range peak and 6’10 when he died
@Christian: how large would you say his head is? Also I doubt he was ever 7’. I would say 6’11 range peak and 6’10 when he died
Canson said on 8/Sep/19
@Christian: how large would you say his head is?
@Christian: how large would you say his head is?
marley said on 7/Sep/19
andre was a kind gentle person. however, i don't see him as a 7 footer. youtube has an interview done by don lane who is 6'4" and andre is seen standing side by side with him wearing cowboy boots. i would put andre at 6'8"-6'9" at best. he was a strong, wide, large man for sure.
andre was a kind gentle person. however, i don't see him as a 7 footer. youtube has an interview done by don lane who is 6'4" and andre is seen standing side by side with him wearing cowboy boots. i would put andre at 6'8"-6'9" at best. he was a strong, wide, large man for sure.
cmillzz said on 7/Sep/19
I still think 6’11.5” peak is fair.
I still think 6’11.5” peak is fair.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Sep/19
@Creeper
How do we know if the measurement was even in barefoot, or what time of day it was taken?
@Creeper
How do we know if the measurement was even in barefoot, or what time of day it was taken?
tree said on 5/Sep/19
Creeper said on 4/Sep/19
There's a lot of evidence that supports Andre being 7ft+ in his prime. We have a 7'1.25 measurement and a measurement to his shoulder region of 6'2. Assuming his head was around 11.5 inches that would place his height at 7'1.5, just like i said.
I would go 7ft1 minimum for Andre in his youth, perhaps even taller at peak 7'1.5.
SHOW ONE
Creeper said on 4/Sep/19
There's a lot of evidence that supports Andre being 7ft+ in his prime. We have a 7'1.25 measurement and a measurement to his shoulder region of 6'2. Assuming his head was around 11.5 inches that would place his height at 7'1.5, just like i said.
I would go 7ft1 minimum for Andre in his youth, perhaps even taller at peak 7'1.5.
SHOW ONE
Creeper said on 4/Sep/19
There's a lot of evidence that supports Andre being 7ft+ in his prime. We have a 7'1.25 measurement and a measurement to his shoulder region of 6'2. Assuming his head was around 11.5 inches that would place his height at 7'1.5, just like i said.
I would go 7ft1 minimum for Andre in his youth, perhaps even taller at peak 7'1.5.
There's a lot of evidence that supports Andre being 7ft+ in his prime. We have a 7'1.25 measurement and a measurement to his shoulder region of 6'2. Assuming his head was around 11.5 inches that would place his height at 7'1.5, just like i said.
I would go 7ft1 minimum for Andre in his youth, perhaps even taller at peak 7'1.5.
JT said on 3/Sep/19
Andre and Scott Casey. Click Here Casey was billed at 6’0”.
Another pic of Richard Kiel and Jerry Lewis Click Here and a rough idea how Kiel would have measured up to Max Palmer Click Here
Andre and Scott Casey. Click Here Casey was billed at 6’0”.
Another pic of Richard Kiel and Jerry Lewis Click Here and a rough idea how Kiel would have measured up to Max Palmer Click Here
62B said on 1/Sep/19
Hogan was never 6'6" in my opinion. Simply wasn't 2" taller than my Grandfather.
Hogan was never 6'6" in my opinion. Simply wasn't 2" taller than my Grandfather.
Roderick said on 31/Aug/19
@tree Well obviously he was taller than 6'9" peak
@tree Well obviously he was taller than 6'9" peak
Pdoggy said on 31/Aug/19
Ok one more time. Hogan was a little over 6 6 peak he claimed when he met Andre that Andre had at least 6 inches on him. Andre just over 7 feet peak and Hogan just over 6 6 peak.
Ok one more time. Hogan was a little over 6 6 peak he claimed when he met Andre that Andre had at least 6 inches on him. Andre just over 7 feet peak and Hogan just over 6 6 peak.
Pdoggy said on 25/Aug/19
Somebody needs assistance in the math department. Just saying.
Somebody needs assistance in the math department. Just saying.
Halb said on 24/Aug/19
Nice COlumbo work, JT.
Nice COlumbo work, JT.
JT said on 24/Aug/19
Since no one goes to Richard Kiel’s page
Click Here
Click Here
Click Here
That’s Bill Engesser with Kiel. Engesser was listed as 7’3’ in college. The woman is Lola Falana, whom Rob has at 5’5” and is likely in high heels here.
Another pic of Kiel and Engesser from the early 1960s Click Here The first guy to Engesser’s left is Mike Love of the Beach Boys, who is Kevin Love’s’ uncle.
Another pic of Engesser
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Kiel was also a spokesperson for a meat company
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Duhon said on 20/Aug/19
Andre and Richard Kiel at the same spot in the Letterman studio Click Here
Here's Andre and Kiel actually standing in the same spot in the Letterman studio and what their respective footwear was. Click Here Kiel was around an inch taller than Wilt and Wilt was taller than Andre in cowboy boots so they’re not going to look the same height even with Andre’s footwear advantage. Kiel would have been at least 3 inches taller than Andre in comparable footwear.
Since no one goes to Richard Kiel’s page
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That’s Bill Engesser with Kiel. Engesser was listed as 7’3’ in college. The woman is Lola Falana, whom Rob has at 5’5” and is likely in high heels here.
Another pic of Kiel and Engesser from the early 1960s Click Here The first guy to Engesser’s left is Mike Love of the Beach Boys, who is Kevin Love’s’ uncle.
Another pic of Engesser
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Kiel was also a spokesperson for a meat company
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Duhon said on 20/Aug/19
Andre and Richard Kiel at the same spot in the Letterman studio Click Here
Here's Andre and Kiel actually standing in the same spot in the Letterman studio and what their respective footwear was. Click Here Kiel was around an inch taller than Wilt and Wilt was taller than Andre in cowboy boots so they’re not going to look the same height even with Andre’s footwear advantage. Kiel would have been at least 3 inches taller than Andre in comparable footwear.
Halb said on 23/Aug/19
André wearing his normal (pre-surgery)supercowboy boots there in the chatshow clip.
André wearing his normal (pre-surgery)supercowboy boots there in the chatshow clip.
ASC said on 23/Aug/19
Biff, that’s a great comparison of Kiel and Andre. However, Andre has a clear footwear advantage—boots vs sneakers. Even so, this comparison makes him look 7’. With weight, posture, injuries at this point, he may appear slightly shorter than at his peak. I can see at least 214 cm (7’0 1/4”) peak.
Impressive size, no matter our estimates!
Biff, that’s a great comparison of Kiel and Andre. However, Andre has a clear footwear advantage—boots vs sneakers. Even so, this comparison makes him look 7’. With weight, posture, injuries at this point, he may appear slightly shorter than at his peak. I can see at least 214 cm (7’0 1/4”) peak.
Impressive size, no matter our estimates!
SeanR said on 19/Aug/19
Easy 7’0” early in his career, probably 6’10” towards end of career. Very similar to Big Show past and current.
Easy 7’0” early in his career, probably 6’10” towards end of career. Very similar to Big Show past and current.
bifftannen said on 19/Aug/19
Final Evidense that andre was around 216 to 218 cm, richard kiel is a legit 217 cm, look at these klips from letterman when they walk in the studio, same door same sign, so if richard kiel is a legit 217 cm andre must be to, and this i from the same year. Click Here Click Here
Final Evidense that andre was around 216 to 218 cm, richard kiel is a legit 217 cm, look at these klips from letterman when they walk in the studio, same door same sign, so if richard kiel is a legit 217 cm andre must be to, and this i from the same year. Click Here Click Here
bifftannen@cool.dk said on 19/Aug/19
Final Evidense that andre was around 216 to 218 cm, richard kiel is a legit 217 cm, look at these klips from letterman when they walk in the studio, same door same sign, so if richard kiel is a legit 217 cm andre must be to, and this i from the same year. Click Here Click Here
Final Evidense that andre was around 216 to 218 cm, richard kiel is a legit 217 cm, look at these klips from letterman when they walk in the studio, same door same sign, so if richard kiel is a legit 217 cm andre must be to, and this i from the same year. Click Here Click Here
Creeper said on 17/Aug/19
Andre did look short with bad posture I do see what youre saying Roderick but even 6'10.5 is too short for Andre he was definitely a 7'1.5 guy in his prime and as he got older he appeared shorter because of his posture but he didnt actually shrink he was still a solid 7ft when he died.
Andre did look short with bad posture I do see what youre saying Roderick but even 6'10.5 is too short for Andre he was definitely a 7'1.5 guy in his prime and as he got older he appeared shorter because of his posture but he didnt actually shrink he was still a solid 7ft when he died.
Creeper said on 17/Aug/19
Andre did look short with bad posture I do see what youre saying Roderick but even 6'10.5 is too short for Andre he was definitely a 7'1.5 guy in his prime and as he got older he appeared shorter because of his posture but he didnt actually shrink he was still a solid 7ft wgeb
Andre did look short with bad posture I do see what youre saying Roderick but even 6'10.5 is too short for Andre he was definitely a 7'1.5 guy in his prime and as he got older he appeared shorter because of his posture but he didnt actually shrink he was still a solid 7ft wgeb
Roderick said on 11/Aug/19
I'm not saying Andre measured as low as 6'7", I'm saying he could have looked it with bad posture. In the post match interview with Bill Watts, he did look 6'7" when he was talking to him. You can keep denying it if you want, I don't really care Lol.
In case you are wondering, I think he was 6'9.25" when he died. And at his tallest, 6'11", or probably just 6'10.5".
I'm not saying Andre measured as low as 6'7", I'm saying he could have looked it with bad posture. In the post match interview with Bill Watts, he did look 6'7" when he was talking to him. You can keep denying it if you want, I don't really care Lol.
In case you are wondering, I think he was 6'9.25" when he died. And at his tallest, 6'11", or probably just 6'10.5".
Pdoggy said on 11/Aug/19
@Boss
Just watched the Andre the Giant HBO documentary again on Daily Motion and at the 5:55 Mark he States He 7 1 376 lb appears to be right around the same time frame possibly after the measurement that happened that Jody Hamilton is referencing
@Boss
Just watched the Andre the Giant HBO documentary again on Daily Motion and at the 5:55 Mark he States He 7 1 376 lb appears to be right around the same time frame possibly after the measurement that happened that Jody Hamilton is referencing
Billy Batts said on 10/Aug/19
Andre's peak height when young and healthy- 6'10.5"
Andre's height when he became famous in the WWWF in the 1970s- 6'10"
Andre's height in the late 80s/early 90s when he was in bad health- 6'9"
1.5" total height loss only over his lifespan
Andre's peak height when young and healthy- 6'10.5"
Andre's height when he became famous in the WWWF in the 1970s- 6'10"
Andre's height in the late 80s/early 90s when he was in bad health- 6'9"
1.5" total height loss only over his lifespan
K.A 188 ! said on 10/Aug/19
@Roderick your comments are always fallacious, Andre as never looked as low as 6ft7.
@Roderick your comments are always fallacious, Andre as never looked as low as 6ft7.
edwards said on 9/Aug/19
Roderick said on 6/Aug/19
@NINJA Look up on YouTube "Slick wants to be Andre the Giants manager". Andre looks 6'8" max next to Slick who was max 6'3".
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Honestly dude are you trippin ,dont get me wrong but andre being 6’7 or 6’8 is ridiculous troll.i simply cant see that.
Roderick said on 6/Aug/19
@NINJA Look up on YouTube "Slick wants to be Andre the Giants manager". Andre looks 6'8" max next to Slick who was max 6'3".
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Honestly dude are you trippin ,dont get me wrong but andre being 6’7 or 6’8 is ridiculous troll.i simply cant see that.
Roderick said on 9/Aug/19
@Dan Trojan I will remain the adult and not ask someone if they are smoking bc of their estimate, Lol.
Andre has actually looked 6'7" when he was slouched over. He also did look 6'7" next to Arnie before. Do I think he is 6'7"? No.. I think he was about 6'11" max peak height.
Look at JTs post, perfect examples of Andre only looking 6'7".
@Dan Trojan I will remain the adult and not ask someone if they are smoking bc of their estimate, Lol.
Andre has actually looked 6'7" when he was slouched over. He also did look 6'7" next to Arnie before. Do I think he is 6'7"? No.. I think he was about 6'11" max peak height.
Look at JTs post, perfect examples of Andre only looking 6'7".
Texas Tom said on 9/Aug/19
Andre would definitely not have been in cowboy boots in the douglass shot---he never wore them in his short-haired period when his back was bad.
To me, looking a touch over 6'10" in that shot.
Andre would definitely not have been in cowboy boots in the douglass shot---he never wore them in his short-haired period when his back was bad.
To me, looking a touch over 6'10" in that shot.
Kunoichi said on 9/Aug/19
In 1992 with 192cm Jumbo Tsuruta
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In 1970 with Michelle Nador
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In 1992 with 192cm Jumbo Tsuruta
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In 1970 with Michelle Nador
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Dan Trojan said on 8/Aug/19
Roderick that is ridiculous andre never looked 6'7" what are you smoking seriously
Roderick that is ridiculous andre never looked 6'7" what are you smoking seriously
cmillzz said on 8/Aug/19
Looking at old photos of Andre in the 70s, I honestly wouldn’t rule out a full 7’0. Maybe he was 6’11.5 peak? I still wouldn’t go under 6’11 range for him.
Looking at old photos of Andre in the 70s, I honestly wouldn’t rule out a full 7’0. Maybe he was 6’11.5 peak? I still wouldn’t go under 6’11 range for him.
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Aug/19
@Roderick I already posted that Slick/Andre vid on 6/May/19, dude (love the music; makes me think of "Seinfeld"), and yes, Andre looks "short" there...
In that video clip JT just posted, the other guy is Bill Watts, who was billed as 6'3". Given Watts footwear advantage, Andre looked very short there.
Even w/ 5'8" Mean Gene. Short.
Here's Michael Douglas w/ 5'9" JCVD (circa '90s)... Click Here
Now, check out Andre (maybe in cowboy boots) w/ Douglas... Click Here
At only 6'7", a height of 5'9" reaches my chin. If Andre was wearing cowboy boots, then he definitely wasn't looking very tall here. In no way does he look 7 feet tall, regardless of his big head.
@Roderick I already posted that Slick/Andre vid on 6/May/19, dude (love the music; makes me think of "Seinfeld"), and yes, Andre looks "short" there...
In that video clip JT just posted, the other guy is Bill Watts, who was billed as 6'3". Given Watts footwear advantage, Andre looked very short there.
Even w/ 5'8" Mean Gene. Short.
Here's Michael Douglas w/ 5'9" JCVD (circa '90s)... Click Here
Now, check out Andre (maybe in cowboy boots) w/ Douglas... Click Here
At only 6'7", a height of 5'9" reaches my chin. If Andre was wearing cowboy boots, then he definitely wasn't looking very tall here. In no way does he look 7 feet tall, regardless of his big head.
Roderick said on 6/Aug/19
@NINJA Look up on YouTube "Slick wants to be Andre the Giants manager". Andre looks 6'8" max next to Slick who was max 6'3".
@NINJA Look up on YouTube "Slick wants to be Andre the Giants manager". Andre looks 6'8" max next to Slick who was max 6'3".
JT said on 6/Aug/19
NINJA said on 3/Aug/19
Never seen Andre look 6’8” or 6’7”. Ever. That is ridiculous. Just sayin.
You have now Click Here Click Here Not that Andre was really that height at his peak. He was at around age 17 Click Here
NINJA said on 3/Aug/19
Never seen Andre look 6’8” or 6’7”. Ever. That is ridiculous. Just sayin.
You have now Click Here Click Here Not that Andre was really that height at his peak. He was at around age 17 Click Here
Canson said on 5/Aug/19
@Roderick: I agree with you. Andre was 6’11” range peak and by the time he died may have been sub 6’10”
@Roderick: I agree with you. Andre was 6’11” range peak and by the time he died may have been sub 6’10”
NINJA said on 5/Aug/19
Please post a picture of Andre looking 6’7”...
Please post a picture of Andre looking 6’7”...
Roderick said on 4/Aug/19
@NINJA A slouching Andre in his last years did look as low as 6'7". But when standing straight for a measurement, I think he was about 6'9.25" tops before he died.
@NINJA A slouching Andre in his last years did look as low as 6'7". But when standing straight for a measurement, I think he was about 6'9.25" tops before he died.
NINJA said on 3/Aug/19
Never seen Andre look 6’8” or 6’7”. Ever. That is ridiculous. Just sayin.
Never seen Andre look 6’8” or 6’7”. Ever. That is ridiculous. Just sayin.
JT said on 3/Aug/19
RoelC, the Atlanta Hawks did measure Gonzalez. Click Here Not sure how scientific that measurement was but it guarantees no tip-toeing. The Sports Illustrated writer presumably got the 7’6 ½” measurement from Stan Kasten, then GM of the Hawks but I’m speculating. If true, that could be Gonzalez’s height in shoes. Per Rob, those Converse shoes only give around a 0.5” boost, which would yield a 7’6” w/o shoe measurement for Gonzalez. The shoes may not give that much though when standing on a wooden wedge like Gonzalez is.
iconjj said on 26/Jul/19
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.
Andre and Gonzalez were over-billed by WWF by around 6 inches but for different reasons. I recall reading many years ago that Andre was billed at 7'4" since b-baller Tom Burleson was being listed as 7'3" and WWF wanted Andre to be the tallest athlete. The NBA and ABA had several guys listed as 7’2” back then, including Kareem and Artis Gilmore, which could have also prompted Andre to be over-billed by more than the usual amount for wrestlers back then (around 2-3 inches).
Gonzalez's 8 foot billing just sounded good. Vince Jr. over-billed ~7’1” Giant Silva by only 4 inches at 7’5” (and probably since WCW was billing Big Show at 7’4” at the time). Vince, Jr. initially over-billed Big Show by only around 2 inches. Same with Khali.
RoelC, the Atlanta Hawks did measure Gonzalez. Click Here Not sure how scientific that measurement was but it guarantees no tip-toeing. The Sports Illustrated writer presumably got the 7’6 ½” measurement from Stan Kasten, then GM of the Hawks but I’m speculating. If true, that could be Gonzalez’s height in shoes. Per Rob, those Converse shoes only give around a 0.5” boost, which would yield a 7’6” w/o shoe measurement for Gonzalez. The shoes may not give that much though when standing on a wooden wedge like Gonzalez is.
iconjj said on 26/Jul/19
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.
Andre and Gonzalez were over-billed by WWF by around 6 inches but for different reasons. I recall reading many years ago that Andre was billed at 7'4" since b-baller Tom Burleson was being listed as 7'3" and WWF wanted Andre to be the tallest athlete. The NBA and ABA had several guys listed as 7’2” back then, including Kareem and Artis Gilmore, which could have also prompted Andre to be over-billed by more than the usual amount for wrestlers back then (around 2-3 inches).
Gonzalez's 8 foot billing just sounded good. Vince Jr. over-billed ~7’1” Giant Silva by only 4 inches at 7’5” (and probably since WCW was billing Big Show at 7’4” at the time). Vince, Jr. initially over-billed Big Show by only around 2 inches. Same with Khali.
iconjj said on 2/Aug/19
Roelc basketball stats is at least something. We have jack squat on Andre. If they were looking to bill him as taller than Kareem they could have done 7'3. 7'4 just seemed like an odd number. looked to me like they (whoever they were) added 6 inches. And vince jr just followed suit because it worked for Andre.
I'm not disagreeing with you, theres no facts per say to back this up just seems to add up to me.
Roelc basketball stats is at least something. We have jack squat on Andre. If they were looking to bill him as taller than Kareem they could have done 7'3. 7'4 just seemed like an odd number. looked to me like they (whoever they were) added 6 inches. And vince jr just followed suit because it worked for Andre.
I'm not disagreeing with you, theres no facts per say to back this up just seems to add up to me.
Halb said on 2/Aug/19
André didn't have bad posture until post back surgery in 86/87.
André didn't have bad posture until post back surgery in 86/87.
tree said on 2/Aug/19
Undertaker Frank said on 31/Jul/19
The Reason McMahon billed Andre @ 7ft 4 is to make him taller than Kareem Abdul Jabbar who was listed @ 7ft 2
Why not 7ft3 lol
Undertaker Frank said on 31/Jul/19
The Reason McMahon billed Andre @ 7ft 4 is to make him taller than Kareem Abdul Jabbar who was listed @ 7ft 2
Why not 7ft3 lol
Roderick said on 1/Aug/19
@Creeper There are plenty of photos with Andre standing tall in his prime looking nowhere near 7'1".
Andre was a 6'11"ish guy peak height. He was probably as low as 6'9" when he died. With bad posture in the 90s Andre could easily look 6'7"-6'8" range.
No offense, but Andre wasn't anywhere near your estimate.
@Creeper There are plenty of photos with Andre standing tall in his prime looking nowhere near 7'1".
Andre was a 6'11"ish guy peak height. He was probably as low as 6'9" when he died. With bad posture in the 90s Andre could easily look 6'7"-6'8" range.
No offense, but Andre wasn't anywhere near your estimate.
Undertaker Frank said on 31/Jul/19
The Reason McMahon billed Andre @ 7ft 4 is to make him taller than Kareem Abdul Jabbar who was listed @ 7ft 2
The Reason McMahon billed Andre @ 7ft 4 is to make him taller than Kareem Abdul Jabbar who was listed @ 7ft 2
Creeper said on 31/Jul/19
Andre was 7'1-7'2 peak height. A very tall man with bad posture can easily look 6'10 range in photos, but it doesn't mean that's what he measures.
Andre gets a vote of 7'1.5 from me now I think 7'2 is possible but I just stick with 7'1.5 to be safe....
Honest opinions? I'm open to argue
Andre was 7'1-7'2 peak height. A very tall man with bad posture can easily look 6'10 range in photos, but it doesn't mean that's what he measures.
Andre gets a vote of 7'1.5 from me now I think 7'2 is possible but I just stick with 7'1.5 to be safe....
Honest opinions? I'm open to argue
ASC said on 30/Jul/19
Regarding the Hamilton quote, if he was “kayfabing,” wouldn’t he say Haystack was 600 pounds? This is not to say his recollection or the process was completely accurate, but it doesn’t seem like a straight lie.
Regarding the Hamilton quote, if he was “kayfabing,” wouldn’t he say Haystack was 600 pounds? This is not to say his recollection or the process was completely accurate, but it doesn’t seem like a straight lie.
Roderick said on 29/Jul/19
Giant Gonzalez was 7'6"-7'7" and billed at 8'0".
Andre was actually listed as tall as 7'6", when in reality he was never even 7 foot.
Big Show was billed at 7'4"-7'5" in WCW, then lowered to 7'2" in WWF, became 7'1" for just a little bit, and eventually just 7'0". IMO, I estimate his peak around 7'0". But by 2008 or so when he got the 7'0" billing, he had already shrunk an inch bc of the morbid obesity + wrestling. He was 6'11" in 2008 IMO.
Giant Gonzalez was 7'6"-7'7" and billed at 8'0".
Andre was actually listed as tall as 7'6", when in reality he was never even 7 foot.
Big Show was billed at 7'4"-7'5" in WCW, then lowered to 7'2" in WWF, became 7'1" for just a little bit, and eventually just 7'0". IMO, I estimate his peak around 7'0". But by 2008 or so when he got the 7'0" billing, he had already shrunk an inch bc of the morbid obesity + wrestling. He was 6'11" in 2008 IMO.
RoelC said on 29/Jul/19
iconjj said on 26/Jul/19
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.
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Iconjj it's been said here many times, but don't look for any pattern in pro-wrestling billings as there isn't any. There's no billing method for Giants in the WWE. I'm sure Gonzales' 8ft billing had more to do with marketing, than with a billing method of overlisting Giants by 6 inches. Gonzales was a very tall individual and 8ft just sounds a lot better than 7'10" or 7'11".
You're also forgetting that McMahon Sr. wasn't the first one to bill Andre at 7'4". He was already billed at that height in both Canada and the US before he even made his WWWF debut.
And what legit stats do we have on Jorge? The only listings we have are his basketball listings, and we know how trustworthy those can be. Especially with very tall athletes like Gonzales. He might've been the 7'6" he was listed at, but it's not like it's edged in stone.
Guinness listed him at 7'6", but they never measured him personally.
iconjj said on 26/Jul/19
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.
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Iconjj it's been said here many times, but don't look for any pattern in pro-wrestling billings as there isn't any. There's no billing method for Giants in the WWE. I'm sure Gonzales' 8ft billing had more to do with marketing, than with a billing method of overlisting Giants by 6 inches. Gonzales was a very tall individual and 8ft just sounds a lot better than 7'10" or 7'11".
You're also forgetting that McMahon Sr. wasn't the first one to bill Andre at 7'4". He was already billed at that height in both Canada and the US before he even made his WWWF debut.
And what legit stats do we have on Jorge? The only listings we have are his basketball listings, and we know how trustworthy those can be. Especially with very tall athletes like Gonzales. He might've been the 7'6" he was listed at, but it's not like it's edged in stone.
Guinness listed him at 7'6", but they never measured him personally.
cmillzz said on 29/Jul/19
I personally wouldn’t go lower than 6’11 for peak Andre.
I personally wouldn’t go lower than 6’11 for peak Andre.
Riccardo 5'7" said on 29/Jul/19
If a 7 foot tall guy stand near an other 7 foot tall guy being shorter then him, it means that the guy is not 7 foot tall. Simple.
If a 7 foot tall guy stand near an other 7 foot tall guy being shorter then him, it means that the guy is not 7 foot tall. Simple.
iconjj said on 26/Jul/19
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.
I dont know what is so difficult here. It's obvious Vince Senior used 6 inches to up Andre's billing. Vince Jr. Did the same with Gonzales which exposes the billing method because we actually have legit stats on Jorge. That's why Andre's billed height was always 7'4/7'5-6'10/6'11 because Andre was in that general range. The method is the giveaway.
Monkey knees said on 25/Jul/19
7ft dead on, early 80s peak. Lost a lot by 1990... Lifestyle, height, wrestling took its toll. Absolute legend, mind. As a kid i was terrified of him!
7ft dead on, early 80s peak. Lost a lot by 1990... Lifestyle, height, wrestling took its toll. Absolute legend, mind. As a kid i was terrified of him!
Roderick said on 24/Jul/19
If Andre was measured a tad over 7'1" (7'1.25" Im guessing) then he was a tad over 7'1", but we have no 100% legit height measurements from Andre so we cant really go by measurements anymore.
I cannot see Andre being 7'1" or even a full 7'0. Maybe for a measurement he could scape 6'11", no taller than that IMO.
If Andre was measured a tad over 7'1" (7'1.25" Im guessing) then he was a tad over 7'1", but we have no 100% legit height measurements from Andre so we cant really go by measurements anymore.
I cannot see Andre being 7'1" or even a full 7'0. Maybe for a measurement he could scape 6'11", no taller than that IMO.
62B said on 23/Jul/19
I would be shocked if Andre ever measured 7'1" barefoot. He was just too far away from 7'3" ish Rik Smits when I saw him. He was also visibly shorter than Wilt, who was likely a little under 7'1" at the time. I can see 7'0 early morning, but evening he would most likely have been 6'11" and change peak.
I would be shocked if Andre ever measured 7'1" barefoot. He was just too far away from 7'3" ish Rik Smits when I saw him. He was also visibly shorter than Wilt, who was likely a little under 7'1" at the time. I can see 7'0 early morning, but evening he would most likely have been 6'11" and change peak.
Importer said on 23/Jul/19
@Roderick Okay :)
@Roderick Okay :)
Riccardo 5'7" said on 22/Jul/19
6'10.5 max for his peak. 6'9 in his last day?
6'10.5 max for his peak. 6'9 in his last day?
RoelC said on 21/Jul/19
Boss said on 18/Jul/19
@RoelC.
I just don't see him making this whole story up. There is a way too many things to the story and Jody seems like a pretty straight shooter to me anyway. He was remembering back 30 years so he might have forgotten the newscasters name as he mentioned. Also, Andre gave a height of 2.18m when asked by family or friends so he might have been giving his height in shoes but it's right in line with Hamilton's account. His tailor measurement's also back up Andre being in 7' range as well.
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Jody Hamilton himself said he remembered it well, or he wouldn't have mentioned it. So why specifically mention the newscaster if he didn't remember his name. That name is crucial into determing if there is any truth in Hamilton's story.
Boss said on 18/Jul/19
@RoelC.
I just don't see him making this whole story up. There is a way too many things to the story and Jody seems like a pretty straight shooter to me anyway. He was remembering back 30 years so he might have forgotten the newscasters name as he mentioned. Also, Andre gave a height of 2.18m when asked by family or friends so he might have been giving his height in shoes but it's right in line with Hamilton's account. His tailor measurement's also back up Andre being in 7' range as well.
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Jody Hamilton himself said he remembered it well, or he wouldn't have mentioned it. So why specifically mention the newscaster if he didn't remember his name. That name is crucial into determing if there is any truth in Hamilton's story.
Pdoggy said on 21/Jul/19
The other compelling fact is that Jody Hamilton actually acknowledges kayfabe by saying Andre went from 7 1 to 7 6 in the advertisement. Why would he make up 7 1?? Why not some other arbitrary height??
The other compelling fact is that Jody Hamilton actually acknowledges kayfabe by saying Andre went from 7 1 to 7 6 in the advertisement. Why would he make up 7 1?? Why not some other arbitrary height??
Roderick said on 21/Jul/19
@Importer I meant he looked short compared to his old self. I'm 5'11" so I have no business calling 6'9" short Lol.
@Importer I meant he looked short compared to his old self. I'm 5'11" so I have no business calling 6'9" short Lol.
Importer said on 20/Jul/19
@Roderick your comment on 5/Jul/19 certainly gave me that idea.
@Roderick your comment on 5/Jul/19 certainly gave me that idea.
Roderick said on 19/Jul/19
@Importer When did I call 6'9" short?
@Importer When did I call 6'9" short?
Importer said on 18/Jul/19
Lol @Roderick are you seriously calling 6'9 short?
Lol @Roderick are you seriously calling 6'9 short?
Boss said on 18/Jul/19
Also, Hamilton mentioned Andre wasn't wrestling in North America yet which was exactly right. How would he remember all these fine little details because he was telling the truth. Also, Jody was actually there for the Andre's measurement and the weighing of Haystacks Calhoun.
Also, Hamilton mentioned Andre wasn't wrestling in North America yet which was exactly right. How would he remember all these fine little details because he was telling the truth. Also, Jody was actually there for the Andre's measurement and the weighing of Haystacks Calhoun.
Boss said on 18/Jul/19
@RoelC.
I just don't see him making this whole story up. There is a way too many things to the story and Jody seems like a pretty straight shooter to me anyway. He was remembering back 30 years so he might have forgotten the newscasters name as he mentioned. Also, Andre gave a height of 2.18m when asked by family or friends so he might have been giving his height in shoes but it's right in line with Hamilton's account. His tailor measurement's also back up Andre being in 7' range as well.
@RoelC.
I just don't see him making this whole story up. There is a way too many things to the story and Jody seems like a pretty straight shooter to me anyway. He was remembering back 30 years so he might have forgotten the newscasters name as he mentioned. Also, Andre gave a height of 2.18m when asked by family or friends so he might have been giving his height in shoes but it's right in line with Hamilton's account. His tailor measurement's also back up Andre being in 7' range as well.
Roderick said on 18/Jul/19
Sorry about my comment.
I thought all those listings were common knowledge, didnt know it was rumor. Thanks for pointing that out guys.
Aside from those, I think Andre was 6'11" max peak, and probably more like 6'10.5".
I wont go by rumor anymore, only direct fact.
Sorry about my comment.
I thought all those listings were common knowledge, didnt know it was rumor. Thanks for pointing that out guys.
Aside from those, I think Andre was 6'11" max peak, and probably more like 6'10.5".
I wont go by rumor anymore, only direct fact.
edwards said on 17/Jul/19
@ johan the second picture of andre and vince ,andre is standing on something that's why he looks taller
@dan trojan agreed dude
@ johan the second picture of andre and vince ,andre is standing on something that's why he looks taller
@dan trojan agreed dude
ASC said on 16/Jul/19
Years ago I read that Andre was measured at 6’10” after passing away. I recall this being reported in Sports Illustrated but I cannot find that quote in their archive, so it’s possible it was a different publication. I know without the text, this post is suspect, but I’m throwing it out there in case it leads to that text.
Years ago I read that Andre was measured at 6’10” after passing away. I recall this being reported in Sports Illustrated but I cannot find that quote in their archive, so it’s possible it was a different publication. I know without the text, this post is suspect, but I’m throwing it out there in case it leads to that text.
Sotiris Gravas said on 16/Jul/19
@ken6-3 It's definitely you, lol. I would never, ever want to be Andre's size.
@ken6-3 It's definitely you, lol. I would never, ever want to be Andre's size.
Boss said on 16/Jul/19
@ROELC
The measurement was probably in shoes or ring gear. What are we just supposed to ignore it. You provide something with as much detail of Andre being measured and Jody completely back up his story when you guys questioned him on it and I didn't see you arguing with him about it because he was clearly telling the truth.
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@ROELC
The measurement was probably in shoes or ring gear. What are we just supposed to ignore it. You provide something with as much detail of Andre being measured and Jody completely back up his story when you guys questioned him on it and I didn't see you arguing with him about it because he was clearly telling the truth.
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Mm said on 16/Jul/19
@RoelC,
It’s not a “theory”—it’s from Andre’s mouth. I also heard him say that.
@RoelC,
It’s not a “theory”—it’s from Andre’s mouth. I also heard him say that.
ken6-3 said on 15/Jul/19
post these docs please.thanks
Roderick said on 7/Jul/19
Sotiris actually might be right...
The France military listed Andre as 6'10".
He was listed both as 6'9" and 6'10" in medical documents.
He wore cowboy boots to literally everywhere except the ring.
The thought of a 6'10" peak Andre bothers me... especially when growing up I thought he was 7'6"!
post these docs please.thanks
Roderick said on 7/Jul/19
Sotiris actually might be right...
The France military listed Andre as 6'10".
He was listed both as 6'9" and 6'10" in medical documents.
He wore cowboy boots to literally everywhere except the ring.
The thought of a 6'10" peak Andre bothers me... especially when growing up I thought he was 7'6"!
ken6-3 said on 15/Jul/19
is it me or @Sotiris seem to be jealous of these big guys? Guy should have his posting privileges revoked.
ps. 1987 was not peak Andrea.
is it me or @Sotiris seem to be jealous of these big guys? Guy should have his posting privileges revoked.
ps. 1987 was not peak Andrea.
RoelC said on 15/Jul/19
Boss said on 13/Jul/19
Andre was growing throughout the 60's into at least 1971 by his account. His billings were increasing into the early 70's because he was still getting taller. Andre started wrestling at age 17 and grew in height until age 24 or 25.
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That theory doesn't hold up when you look at all his billings and not just handpick a few of them like you're doing for obvious reasons.
Yes his billings in France were slowly increasing, but not by much.
His common billing in France was 2m10 and 140kg in 1966 and 1967, 2m11 and 144kg in 1968 and early 1969. He also had a few 2m08 billings in 1966 and 2m12 billings in 1969. It wasn't until he returned in 1970 that they started billing him at 2m14 and 171kg.
In the UK however he was billed 6'10" when he arrived in May 1969 and during the 2nd leg of his tour (from September onwards) he was billed at 6'11". Out of 5 promoters only one billed him at 7'.
So the UK billings obviously do not support the theory he was still growing at the time. 6'11" is the same height he was billed at in France from 1968 onwards and 6'10" was even less than his common billings from 1966 onwards. And the UK was a totally new territory for Andre, so excuses of UK promoters using old billings don't hold up.
His billings in the 70's are clearly exaggerated unless you believe he had a 2nd growth spurt at age 23.
And where does your Jody Hamilton claim fit into the theory of Andre still growing? You posted that claim about a million times over the past 4 years and always like to tell people how legit that measurement was. Hamilton claimed a measured height of over 7ft1 for Andre, yet he didn't even get billings that high until he went to Japan in 1970. Up until he made his North American debut in mid-1971 he was never billed taller than 2m14 in Europe.
Boss said on 13/Jul/19
Andre was growing throughout the 60's into at least 1971 by his account. His billings were increasing into the early 70's because he was still getting taller. Andre started wrestling at age 17 and grew in height until age 24 or 25.
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That theory doesn't hold up when you look at all his billings and not just handpick a few of them like you're doing for obvious reasons.
Yes his billings in France were slowly increasing, but not by much.
His common billing in France was 2m10 and 140kg in 1966 and 1967, 2m11 and 144kg in 1968 and early 1969. He also had a few 2m08 billings in 1966 and 2m12 billings in 1969. It wasn't until he returned in 1970 that they started billing him at 2m14 and 171kg.
In the UK however he was billed 6'10" when he arrived in May 1969 and during the 2nd leg of his tour (from September onwards) he was billed at 6'11". Out of 5 promoters only one billed him at 7'.
So the UK billings obviously do not support the theory he was still growing at the time. 6'11" is the same height he was billed at in France from 1968 onwards and 6'10" was even less than his common billings from 1966 onwards. And the UK was a totally new territory for Andre, so excuses of UK promoters using old billings don't hold up.
His billings in the 70's are clearly exaggerated unless you believe he had a 2nd growth spurt at age 23.
And where does your Jody Hamilton claim fit into the theory of Andre still growing? You posted that claim about a million times over the past 4 years and always like to tell people how legit that measurement was. Hamilton claimed a measured height of over 7ft1 for Andre, yet he didn't even get billings that high until he went to Japan in 1970. Up until he made his North American debut in mid-1971 he was never billed taller than 2m14 in Europe.
Dan Trojan said on 15/Jul/19
Johan that second picture of andre and vince andre us standing on something that's why he looks taller
Johan that second picture of andre and vince andre us standing on something that's why he looks taller
Johan 185 cm said on 14/Jul/19
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Old pic of Vince and Andre.
Cowboyboots or vince in a hole?
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Looked here huge as well.
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Old pic of Vince and Andre.
Cowboyboots or vince in a hole?
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Looked here huge as well.
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Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Jul/19
@Kunoichi Bill Eddy saying Andre was 7'1" before he died makes Daniel reynolds look intelligent by comparison. Believing in something so ridiculous doesn't speak well of your intelligence, either.
It's like you're a cult member who needs to be deprogrammed. Kinda scary.
@Kunoichi Bill Eddy saying Andre was 7'1" before he died makes Daniel reynolds look intelligent by comparison. Believing in something so ridiculous doesn't speak well of your intelligence, either.
It's like you're a cult member who needs to be deprogrammed. Kinda scary.
Boss said on 13/Jul/19
Andre was growing throughout the 60's into at least 1971 by his account. His billings were increasing into the early 70's because he was still getting taller. Andre started wrestling at age 17 and grew in height until age 24 or 25.
Here is Andre being billed at 7' in 1969.
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Here in late 60's or early 70's in France at 2.14m.
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Here in 1971 in France at 2.14m.
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Here on his first Japan tour at 2.18m
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Andre was growing throughout the 60's into at least 1971 by his account. His billings were increasing into the early 70's because he was still getting taller. Andre started wrestling at age 17 and grew in height until age 24 or 25.
Here is Andre being billed at 7' in 1969.
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Here in late 60's or early 70's in France at 2.14m.
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Here in 1971 in France at 2.14m.
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Here on his first Japan tour at 2.18m
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cmillzz said on 13/Jul/19
I think what 62B estimated him at back in 1988 was what he actually was mid-morning. That would mean his low height would have been 6’10.5, maybe even a bit lower, but from what I’ve seen he had already lost an inch of height by then at least. I think a strong 6’11 range would be reasonable for Andre at his peak. Honestly even 7’0 wouldn’t have surprised me, but he probably never was that tall at a low.
I think what 62B estimated him at back in 1988 was what he actually was mid-morning. That would mean his low height would have been 6’10.5, maybe even a bit lower, but from what I’ve seen he had already lost an inch of height by then at least. I think a strong 6’11 range would be reasonable for Andre at his peak. Honestly even 7’0 wouldn’t have surprised me, but he probably never was that tall at a low.
Kunoichi said on 12/Jul/19
Bill Edie said once Andre's height was 7 ft 1 in one year before he died. Bill Edie is a very intelligent person and I would like to believe in his remarks.
Bill Edie said once Andre's height was 7 ft 1 in one year before he died. Bill Edie is a very intelligent person and I would like to believe in his remarks.
Pdoggy said on 12/Jul/19
@RoelC
Well put. I may not agree with what your height estimate is on Andre but I certainly agree we need to stick to facts rather than speculations.
@RoelC
Well put. I may not agree with what your height estimate is on Andre but I certainly agree we need to stick to facts rather than speculations.
Roderick said on 11/Jul/19
When I watched a video on YT, it described Andre as 6'10" going into the France Military.
I don't make stuff up, I just write from observations. I have no reason to lie.
Also as for him being listed as 6'9" and 6'10", I thought that was common knowledge. I don't know where that's from.
I think Andre was 6'10.5"-6'11" and shrank to 6'9" before he died from my own observations, never 7'0".
When I watched a video on YT, it described Andre as 6'10" going into the France Military.
I don't make stuff up, I just write from observations. I have no reason to lie.
Also as for him being listed as 6'9" and 6'10", I thought that was common knowledge. I don't know where that's from.
I think Andre was 6'10.5"-6'11" and shrank to 6'9" before he died from my own observations, never 7'0".
Importer said on 11/Jul/19
A real life Spartan. Rest In Peace.
A real life Spartan. Rest In Peace.
viper said on 10/Jul/19
No way he was only 6-10 peak
No way he was only 6-10 peak
RoelC said on 10/Jul/19
Roderick said on 7/Jul/19
Sotiris actually might be right...
The France military listed Andre as 6'10".
He was listed both as 6'9" and 6'10" in medical documents.
He wore cowboy boots to literally everywhere except the ring.
The thought of a 6'10" peak Andre bothers me... especially when growing up I thought he was 7'6"!
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Where are those medical documents then? I've been posting here for over 13 years, yet I've never seen anyone post any medical document on Andre. But I have seen plenty of people claiming they saw such a document and funny enough the height in said document never seems to match with one another. People who want Andre to be 7ft or taller will claim they saw a document that has him at precisely such a height, and people who want Andre to be shorter than 7ft will claim they saw a document that has him below 7ft.
The documentary makers from HBO with all there money, resources and contacts couldn't find any official document that showed Andre's true height. They claimed medical documents were all destroyed. People that might've known Andre's true height were either sticking to kayfabe (like Hogan), exagerrating his height (both his brothers claimed Andre was 7ft2) or pretending they didn't know exactly how tall Andre was (like Vince McMahon). They apparently went to great lenghts to find an answer to Andre's true height & weight, but in the end they couldn't get a definitive answer to that question and support it with evidence. Yet here you are claiming you saw such documents!
According to the A&E biography Andre was rejected for service in the army. They might've measured him during his physical, but would such document still excist after 50+ years? And the French military wouldn't list people in feet and inches as they use the metric system.
If you wanna prove Andre was less than 7ft you could've just referred to his early height billings in Europe during the 60's. No need to make stuff up.
Roderick said on 7/Jul/19
Sotiris actually might be right...
The France military listed Andre as 6'10".
He was listed both as 6'9" and 6'10" in medical documents.
He wore cowboy boots to literally everywhere except the ring.
The thought of a 6'10" peak Andre bothers me... especially when growing up I thought he was 7'6"!
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Where are those medical documents then? I've been posting here for over 13 years, yet I've never seen anyone post any medical document on Andre. But I have seen plenty of people claiming they saw such a document and funny enough the height in said document never seems to match with one another. People who want Andre to be 7ft or taller will claim they saw a document that has him at precisely such a height, and people who want Andre to be shorter than 7ft will claim they saw a document that has him below 7ft.
The documentary makers from HBO with all there money, resources and contacts couldn't find any official document that showed Andre's true height. They claimed medical documents were all destroyed. People that might've known Andre's true height were either sticking to kayfabe (like Hogan), exagerrating his height (both his brothers claimed Andre was 7ft2) or pretending they didn't know exactly how tall Andre was (like Vince McMahon). They apparently went to great lenghts to find an answer to Andre's true height & weight, but in the end they couldn't get a definitive answer to that question and support it with evidence. Yet here you are claiming you saw such documents!
According to the A&E biography Andre was rejected for service in the army. They might've measured him during his physical, but would such document still excist after 50+ years? And the French military wouldn't list people in feet and inches as they use the metric system.
If you wanna prove Andre was less than 7ft you could've just referred to his early height billings in Europe during the 60's. No need to make stuff up.
MelvinJones said on 10/Jul/19
Andre was only Wilt's height wearing his big heeled cowboy boots. Why do people still believe Andre was 7 feet or taller?
Andre was only Wilt's height wearing his big heeled cowboy boots. Why do people still believe Andre was 7 feet or taller?
Sotiris Gravas said on 10/Jul/19
@GST I agree that Andre was never more than 6'10.5".
As for everything else you said... Click Here
Just kidding, bro. This pretty much sums it up... Click Here
@GST I agree that Andre was never more than 6'10.5".
As for everything else you said... Click Here
Just kidding, bro. This pretty much sums it up... Click Here
GST said on 9/Jul/19
@Sotiris you can’t call me bias, I rarely post here. And for the record Andre’s peak height is 6’10.5 peak imo. He never saw 7 foot.
That picture you used is awful regardless.
@Sotiris you can’t call me bias, I rarely post here. And for the record Andre’s peak height is 6’10.5 peak imo. He never saw 7 foot.
That picture you used is awful regardless.
Pdoggy said on 9/Jul/19
@Roderick
Sounds great can you post the Military records you are referencing. I think it would be great info to have. All I have read is he was denied entry due to his size but I know of no measurements but they must have occurred.
@Roderick
Sounds great can you post the Military records you are referencing. I think it would be great info to have. All I have read is he was denied entry due to his size but I know of no measurements but they must have occurred.
cmillzz said on 9/Jul/19
6’10 peak would really surprise me. I thought even at the time of this death he was still near 6’10.
6’10 peak would really surprise me. I thought even at the time of this death he was still near 6’10.
Sotiris Gravas said on 9/Jul/19
@RP Thanks, dude; I appreciate it. :)
@RP Thanks, dude; I appreciate it. :)
ReturnofG said on 9/Jul/19
I'm sorry far too much evidence points to a plus 7 foot Andre in his prime.
I'm sorry far too much evidence points to a plus 7 foot Andre in his prime.
Canson said on 8/Jul/19
@Boss and Dan Trojan: I never see anyone say that about Daniel Reynolds and he inflates immaculately. I agree with Dan trojan. People always pick on the person who estimates lower than Rob lists not the one who upgrades everyone
@Boss and Dan Trojan: I never see anyone say that about Daniel Reynolds and he inflates immaculately. I agree with Dan trojan. People always pick on the person who estimates lower than Rob lists not the one who upgrades everyone
RP said on 8/Jul/19
@ Canson @ Sotiris....
Same here, Gentlemen.
I never really considered morning vs evening heights before discovering this site several years ago. My barefoot height would typically always get taken in the morning when doing sports physicals or yearly physicals @ the DR. Typically always between 8:30AM to 10AM. Even my own personal yearly physicals are still at age 43 done in the early AM... because they include yearly bloodwork. Which requires 8 hours of fasting. So, we schedule them early. Always between 8:30-9:30am. So, my entire life I thought I was over 5’11” @ 5’11 1/8” to 5’11 1/4”....however, actually going by This site’s Standards, I’m a hair under 5’11” @ 5’10 3/4” to 5’10 7/8”..and I’m just like Canson, when I do an evening height, my low depends on if I hit the gym hard that day or night. And Sotiris...keep up the posting, Big Man. Your estimates are almost spot on. I’ve meet many of these guys ...and you’ve been within a 1/2” on every single one I’ve met personally. When I say “these guys” ...I’m referring to the Pro Wrestlers, pro football players, body builders & strength athletes.
@ Canson @ Sotiris....
Same here, Gentlemen.
I never really considered morning vs evening heights before discovering this site several years ago. My barefoot height would typically always get taken in the morning when doing sports physicals or yearly physicals @ the DR. Typically always between 8:30AM to 10AM. Even my own personal yearly physicals are still at age 43 done in the early AM... because they include yearly bloodwork. Which requires 8 hours of fasting. So, we schedule them early. Always between 8:30-9:30am. So, my entire life I thought I was over 5’11” @ 5’11 1/8” to 5’11 1/4”....however, actually going by This site’s Standards, I’m a hair under 5’11” @ 5’10 3/4” to 5’10 7/8”..and I’m just like Canson, when I do an evening height, my low depends on if I hit the gym hard that day or night. And Sotiris...keep up the posting, Big Man. Your estimates are almost spot on. I’ve meet many of these guys ...and you’ve been within a 1/2” on every single one I’ve met personally. When I say “these guys” ...I’m referring to the Pro Wrestlers, pro football players, body builders & strength athletes.
Roderick said on 7/Jul/19
Sotiris actually might be right...
The France military listed Andre as 6'10".
He was listed both as 6'9" and 6'10" in medical documents.
He wore cowboy boots to literally everywhere except the ring.
The thought of a 6'10" peak Andre bothers me... especially when growing up I thought he was 7'6"!
Sotiris actually might be right...
The France military listed Andre as 6'10".
He was listed both as 6'9" and 6'10" in medical documents.
He wore cowboy boots to literally everywhere except the ring.
The thought of a 6'10" peak Andre bothers me... especially when growing up I thought he was 7'6"!
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Jul/19
I don't want my previous post to get lost in the shuffle.
Look at the 6'10" Joonas Suotamo and 5'8.75" John Boyega pics I posted vs. Andre and 5'9" Verne Gagne.
W/o question, Suotamo TOWERS over Boyega. The same cannot be said of Andre and Gagne:
Click Here Only while wearing his cowboys boots did Andre look as tall as Suotamo next to Gagne... Click Here
No way in hell Andre was ever 7 feet tall. This is my opinion based on photographic evidence.
As far as I'm concerned, I've already proven Rob's listings for guys like Andre, Hogan, Undertaker, Lou Ferrigno, Arnold Schwarzenegger, etc. are far too generous, yet the listings remain the same. I've reconciled myself to the fact that this is unlikely to change.
I don't want my previous post to get lost in the shuffle.
Look at the 6'10" Joonas Suotamo and 5'8.75" John Boyega pics I posted vs. Andre and 5'9" Verne Gagne.
W/o question, Suotamo TOWERS over Boyega. The same cannot be said of Andre and Gagne:
Click Here Only while wearing his cowboys boots did Andre look as tall as Suotamo next to Gagne... Click Here
No way in hell Andre was ever 7 feet tall. This is my opinion based on photographic evidence.
As far as I'm concerned, I've already proven Rob's listings for guys like Andre, Hogan, Undertaker, Lou Ferrigno, Arnold Schwarzenegger, etc. are far too generous, yet the listings remain the same. I've reconciled myself to the fact that this is unlikely to change.
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Jul/19
@GST When someone posts a photo that favors Andre, it's perfection. If someone posts a pic where Andre isn't closer to the camera, it's laughable according to you. Thanks for your keen and biased insight, lol.
@Canson The most I ever wake up at is around 6'7.75". Other times, it's only 6'7.5". If I'm lounging around the couch all day on a lazy Sunday, my height can actually stay at 6'7.25" all day.
I can go speed-walking for 4 hours, come back and still be 6'7" at the end of a the day, though I also drop down to 6'6.75", especially after hitting the gym hard for 3 hrs, including the 4-mile to-and-fro walk.
(I actually did 20-mile walks for 3 days in a row recently and probably broke some of the metatarsal bones in the ball of my right foot b/c I was wearing old, worn-out sneaks w/ only 0.25" sole up front. The constant impact of my 285-lb frame certainly didn't help matters. I was also forced to rip off a big patch of skin due to the big blister that formed, exposing the very sensitive dermis layer underneath. Good times!)
@Boss Dude, you basically come out and say I have no credibility, you think I'm gonna just smile and say thank you...? Defending myself is not me being a bully. I have no problems w/ anyone thinking Andre was taller.
@GST When someone posts a photo that favors Andre, it's perfection. If someone posts a pic where Andre isn't closer to the camera, it's laughable according to you. Thanks for your keen and biased insight, lol.
@Canson The most I ever wake up at is around 6'7.75". Other times, it's only 6'7.5". If I'm lounging around the couch all day on a lazy Sunday, my height can actually stay at 6'7.25" all day.
I can go speed-walking for 4 hours, come back and still be 6'7" at the end of a the day, though I also drop down to 6'6.75", especially after hitting the gym hard for 3 hrs, including the 4-mile to-and-fro walk.
(I actually did 20-mile walks for 3 days in a row recently and probably broke some of the metatarsal bones in the ball of my right foot b/c I was wearing old, worn-out sneaks w/ only 0.25" sole up front. The constant impact of my 285-lb frame certainly didn't help matters. I was also forced to rip off a big patch of skin due to the big blister that formed, exposing the very sensitive dermis layer underneath. Good times!)
@Boss Dude, you basically come out and say I have no credibility, you think I'm gonna just smile and say thank you...? Defending myself is not me being a bully. I have no problems w/ anyone thinking Andre was taller.
Dan Trojan said on 7/Jul/19
Boss i'll have to disagree with what you're saying now i know sotiris may argue with some people on here but it's not like sometimes they don't instigate it you're right everyone is entitled to their opinion including sotiris don't get me wrong me and him have got into it a few times but i can't really say that i didn't start it i don't agree with most of his estimations but on the other hand some of them he is spot on we've just gotten to the point where we can agree to disagree just leave it at that and you won't have problems
Boss i'll have to disagree with what you're saying now i know sotiris may argue with some people on here but it's not like sometimes they don't instigate it you're right everyone is entitled to their opinion including sotiris don't get me wrong me and him have got into it a few times but i can't really say that i didn't start it i don't agree with most of his estimations but on the other hand some of them he is spot on we've just gotten to the point where we can agree to disagree just leave it at that and you won't have problems
GST said on 6/Jul/19
@Sotiris - that photo you posted of Wilt has him a lot closer to the camera than Andre. Not as good of a photo as the one with Arnold in between them. No doubt Wilt is taller, but the photo you used is laughable to use it as a comparison.
@Sotiris - that photo you posted of Wilt has him a lot closer to the camera than Andre. Not as good of a photo as the one with Arnold in between them. No doubt Wilt is taller, but the photo you used is laughable to use it as a comparison.
Boss said on 6/Jul/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Jul/19
@Boss First of all, I don't give a (bleep) what you think, you posturing little court jester.
Before I stumbled upon CelebHeights last year, I didn't even know about things like "morning height" and thought I was actually shorter than I really am, not having bothered to really measure myself since high school. Having my past ignorance relitigated here by a pompous (bleep) like you serves no purpose other than to stroke your own ego.
I've used Twitter since 2011 and have posted around 21.5 thousand tweets, half being retweets, almost all of them dumb jokes, and can count the number of times I've mentioned Andre's height on the fingers of maybe one hand.
I based my opinion of Andre's height on a small handful of photos. Since then, I've done my due diligence and have posted more photos on this site than maybe anyone, and realize that Andre was at least 6'10" evening height, maybe 6'10.5" peak height.
You say I post JT photos which are "flawed," yet you just used a JT pic when responding to Pdoggy, lol. Are you even capable of understanding how ridiculous that makes you look?
This was Andre back in 1976 next to 5'9" Verne Gagne (billed 5'11"), looking around 6'10" when excluding the afro he obviously grew to make himself look taller... Click Here At 6'7", a 5'9" guy reaches my chin level. I already posted pics proving my height, and I always back up my opinion w/ photographic evidence, not just my word, you bloviating little
Think you can bully people here and I've seen you do it alot here. People should be free to post what they believe here without any name childish calling. You were the one claiming Andre was 6'8" peak height so it pretty much tells where your mindset is on this debate. You can easily respectfully disagree here. You would never talk like that to someone's face so don't be a keyboard coward. Andre was 7' range peak height and 6'10 range at the end as the evidence all points toward for me anyway.
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Jul/19
@Boss First of all, I don't give a (bleep) what you think, you posturing little court jester.
Before I stumbled upon CelebHeights last year, I didn't even know about things like "morning height" and thought I was actually shorter than I really am, not having bothered to really measure myself since high school. Having my past ignorance relitigated here by a pompous (bleep) like you serves no purpose other than to stroke your own ego.
I've used Twitter since 2011 and have posted around 21.5 thousand tweets, half being retweets, almost all of them dumb jokes, and can count the number of times I've mentioned Andre's height on the fingers of maybe one hand.
I based my opinion of Andre's height on a small handful of photos. Since then, I've done my due diligence and have posted more photos on this site than maybe anyone, and realize that Andre was at least 6'10" evening height, maybe 6'10.5" peak height.
You say I post JT photos which are "flawed," yet you just used a JT pic when responding to Pdoggy, lol. Are you even capable of understanding how ridiculous that makes you look?
This was Andre back in 1976 next to 5'9" Verne Gagne (billed 5'11"), looking around 6'10" when excluding the afro he obviously grew to make himself look taller... Click Here At 6'7", a 5'9" guy reaches my chin level. I already posted pics proving my height, and I always back up my opinion w/ photographic evidence, not just my word, you bloviating little
Think you can bully people here and I've seen you do it alot here. People should be free to post what they believe here without any name childish calling. You were the one claiming Andre was 6'8" peak height so it pretty much tells where your mindset is on this debate. You can easily respectfully disagree here. You would never talk like that to someone's face so don't be a keyboard coward. Andre was 7' range peak height and 6'10 range at the end as the evidence all points toward for me anyway.
Canson said on 6/Jul/19
@Sotiris: I never knew about morning and evening until after I came here. Even then I still didn’t realize little things like sitting recliner just a bit influenced your measurement. I remember I measured about a year after I came here once and was 6’4.5 I believe. Then I measured another time after work and got 6’4 3/8 or 1/4 so I figured it was from laying down. But I’ve repeated it several times and got the same. 195.7 out of bed 193.8 before if I don’t hit the gym. Today I have mornings when I’m right at 6’5 if I get less sleep and 6’4.25 at a low when I hit the gym. Other days it’s 6’5 1/16 and 6’4.25-.3
@Sotiris: I never knew about morning and evening until after I came here. Even then I still didn’t realize little things like sitting recliner just a bit influenced your measurement. I remember I measured about a year after I came here once and was 6’4.5 I believe. Then I measured another time after work and got 6’4 3/8 or 1/4 so I figured it was from laying down. But I’ve repeated it several times and got the same. 195.7 out of bed 193.8 before if I don’t hit the gym. Today I have mornings when I’m right at 6’5 if I get less sleep and 6’4.25 at a low when I hit the gym. Other days it’s 6’5 1/16 and 6’4.25-.3
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/Jul/19
@Gretz The other guy w/ Bobby Orr was Carol Vadnais... Click Here
Wilt Chamberlain was measured on a table in his 40s at 7'0.5". A standing measurement would be closer to 7'0.25"... and he was 48 when he did "Conan the Destroyer" in 1984, so he wasn't at his peak height of around 7'0.75". Also, his footwear consisted of heels w/ only 0.5" as compared to Andre in cowboy boots... Click Here
Factoring Andre's footwear advantage, and Wilt's height loss over the years, Andre is still seen looking up at Wilt... Click Here
There's no way a cowboy-boot-wearing Andre was 6'11.5" barefoot in that pic next to Wilt who was max 7'0.75" in those shoes. A 6'11.5" Andre would have been 7'1.25" if his cowboy boots had a standard 1.75" heel. If Andre's boots were custom-made, a heel of 2" or more would make him being 6'11.5" barefoot even more impossible next to a taller Wilt.
@Gretz The other guy w/ Bobby Orr was Carol Vadnais... Click Here
Wilt Chamberlain was measured on a table in his 40s at 7'0.5". A standing measurement would be closer to 7'0.25"... and he was 48 when he did "Conan the Destroyer" in 1984, so he wasn't at his peak height of around 7'0.75". Also, his footwear consisted of heels w/ only 0.5" as compared to Andre in cowboy boots... Click Here
Factoring Andre's footwear advantage, and Wilt's height loss over the years, Andre is still seen looking up at Wilt... Click Here
There's no way a cowboy-boot-wearing Andre was 6'11.5" barefoot in that pic next to Wilt who was max 7'0.75" in those shoes. A 6'11.5" Andre would have been 7'1.25" if his cowboy boots had a standard 1.75" heel. If Andre's boots were custom-made, a heel of 2" or more would make him being 6'11.5" barefoot even more impossible next to a taller Wilt.
Sotiris Gravas said on 6/Jul/19
Andre, 5'9" Verne Gagne, and 6'5" Chris Taylor in 1976... Click Here Compare this pic, as well as the other one I previously posted to 6'10" Joonas Suotamo and 5'8.75" (according to Rob) John Boyega (2019)... Click Here Footwear... Click Here
Here they both are w/ Suotamo not even standing straight and still looking taller than Andre w/ Gagne from way back in 1976... Click Here , Click Here
Still think Andre was 7 feet tall peak height? Never happened. Don't like it? Too (bleep) bad.
Andre, 5'9" Verne Gagne, and 6'5" Chris Taylor in 1976... Click Here Compare this pic, as well as the other one I previously posted to 6'10" Joonas Suotamo and 5'8.75" (according to Rob) John Boyega (2019)... Click Here Footwear... Click Here
Here they both are w/ Suotamo not even standing straight and still looking taller than Andre w/ Gagne from way back in 1976... Click Here , Click Here
Still think Andre was 7 feet tall peak height? Never happened. Don't like it? Too (bleep) bad.
Sotiris Gravas said on 5/Jul/19
@Boss First of all, I don't give a (bleep) what you think, you posturing little court jester.
Before I stumbled upon CelebHeights last year, I didn't even know about things like "morning height" and thought I was actually shorter than I really am, not having bothered to really measure myself since high school. Having my past ignorance relitigated here by a pompous (bleep) like you serves no purpose other than to stroke your own ego.
I've used Twitter since 2011 and have posted around 21.5 thousand tweets, half being retweets, almost all of them dumb jokes, and can count the number of times I've mentioned Andre's height on the fingers of maybe one hand.
I based my opinion of Andre's height on a small handful of photos. Since then, I've done my due diligence and have posted more photos on this site than maybe anyone, and realize that Andre was at least 6'10" evening height, maybe 6'10.5" peak height.
You say I post JT photos which are "flawed," yet you just used a JT pic when responding to Pdoggy, lol. Are you even capable of understanding how ridiculous that makes you look?
This was Andre back in 1976 next to 5'9" Verne Gagne (billed 5'11"), looking around 6'10" when excluding the afro he obviously grew to make himself look taller... Click Here At 6'7", a 5'9" guy reaches my chin level. I already posted pics proving my height, and I always back up my opinion w/ photographic evidence, not just my word, you bloviating little (bleep).
@Boss First of all, I don't give a (bleep) what you think, you posturing little court jester.
Before I stumbled upon CelebHeights last year, I didn't even know about things like "morning height" and thought I was actually shorter than I really am, not having bothered to really measure myself since high school. Having my past ignorance relitigated here by a pompous (bleep) like you serves no purpose other than to stroke your own ego.
I've used Twitter since 2011 and have posted around 21.5 thousand tweets, half being retweets, almost all of them dumb jokes, and can count the number of times I've mentioned Andre's height on the fingers of maybe one hand.
I based my opinion of Andre's height on a small handful of photos. Since then, I've done my due diligence and have posted more photos on this site than maybe anyone, and realize that Andre was at least 6'10" evening height, maybe 6'10.5" peak height.
You say I post JT photos which are "flawed," yet you just used a JT pic when responding to Pdoggy, lol. Are you even capable of understanding how ridiculous that makes you look?
This was Andre back in 1976 next to 5'9" Verne Gagne (billed 5'11"), looking around 6'10" when excluding the afro he obviously grew to make himself look taller... Click Here At 6'7", a 5'9" guy reaches my chin level. I already posted pics proving my height, and I always back up my opinion w/ photographic evidence, not just my word, you bloviating little (bleep).
Roderick said on 5/Jul/19
I can't see 7'0" for Andre but I can easily buy 6'11". He might have honestly been as low as 6'9" or even 6'8.5" before he died. He lost a LOT of height. He looked very short.
Peak: 6'11"
Death: 6'9"
I can't see 7'0" for Andre but I can easily buy 6'11". He might have honestly been as low as 6'9" or even 6'8.5" before he died. He lost a LOT of height. He looked very short.
Peak: 6'11"
Death: 6'9"
Boss said on 4/Jul/19
Pdoggy said on 3/Jul/19
If the death height of 6'10 is legitimate then even the peak height was under 7' club must see he lost height.....probably not.
Boss great facts as usual, especially the tailor info reposted again, nice.
Thanks Pdoggy.
Here clearly shows Andre's height loss done by JT I believe.
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Pdoggy said on 3/Jul/19
If the death height of 6'10 is legitimate then even the peak height was under 7' club must see he lost height.....probably not.
Boss great facts as usual, especially the tailor info reposted again, nice.
Thanks Pdoggy.
Here clearly shows Andre's height loss done by JT I believe.
Click Here
Boss said on 4/Jul/19
Chuck Wepner was wearing cowboy boots with Andre in ring gear and Andre's head is pointing down in the pics your posting.
Here is Andre and Wepner both in cowboy boots but Andre's head is still titled down some.
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Chuck Wepner was wearing cowboy boots with Andre in ring gear and Andre's head is pointing down in the pics your posting.
Here is Andre and Wepner both in cowboy boots but Andre's head is still titled down some.
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Boss said on 4/Jul/19
@ Sotiris Gravas
For starters a 6'8" peak Andre is a joke so your word on this page is pretty much pointless. You downgrade everyone in the world so I guess your the only person who gives his true height or do you really. You bash people with you snarky little comments when you don't think it fits your estimates. Thing is your estimate of Andre is wrong. You have provided nothing here but a tonn of pointless pictures and JT comparisons which are also flawed. You reference Melzters 6'9.75" guess but don't mention the fact Meltzer also had a past peak Andre at 6'11.5" in 1984 and 6'11 before he came to North America. Again with all the evidence we have on Andre we come out right around 7' for a peak and probably 6'10" when he passed. This is why Rob put his height at 7'. Also, Rob is probably one of the best judges of height on this planet so I'll take his estimate's over yours or anyone else's. You never reference this measurement of Andre which is the best and most detailed account of Andre ever being measured. He was probably in shoes or ring gear for measurement and it was well before he ever wore cowboy boots. Just read it you can tell by all the details it's legit.
Click Here
@ Sotiris Gravas
For starters a 6'8" peak Andre is a joke so your word on this page is pretty much pointless. You downgrade everyone in the world so I guess your the only person who gives his true height or do you really. You bash people with you snarky little comments when you don't think it fits your estimates. Thing is your estimate of Andre is wrong. You have provided nothing here but a tonn of pointless pictures and JT comparisons which are also flawed. You reference Melzters 6'9.75" guess but don't mention the fact Meltzer also had a past peak Andre at 6'11.5" in 1984 and 6'11 before he came to North America. Again with all the evidence we have on Andre we come out right around 7' for a peak and probably 6'10" when he passed. This is why Rob put his height at 7'. Also, Rob is probably one of the best judges of height on this planet so I'll take his estimate's over yours or anyone else's. You never reference this measurement of Andre which is the best and most detailed account of Andre ever being measured. He was probably in shoes or ring gear for measurement and it was well before he ever wore cowboy boots. Just read it you can tell by all the details it's legit.
Click Here
Roderick said on 3/Jul/19
There are medical reports from the 70s that list Andre as both 6'9" and 6'10". With the disease he had, I could imagine he grew into his 30s. I would say he was a legitimate 6'11" peak and shrunk to 6'9" before he died. No matter how tall he was though, he was always remain the greatest giant in all of sports entertainment history ;)
There are medical reports from the 70s that list Andre as both 6'9" and 6'10". With the disease he had, I could imagine he grew into his 30s. I would say he was a legitimate 6'11" peak and shrunk to 6'9" before he died. No matter how tall he was though, he was always remain the greatest giant in all of sports entertainment history ;)
Pdoggy said on 3/Jul/19
If the death height of 6'10 is legitimate then even the peak height was under 7' club must see he lost height.....probably not.
Boss great facts as usual, especially the tailor info reposted again, nice.
If the death height of 6'10 is legitimate then even the peak height was under 7' club must see he lost height.....probably not.
Boss great facts as usual, especially the tailor info reposted again, nice.
Sotiris Gravas said on 3/Jul/19
@NINJA 'Fro, bro.
@NINJA 'Fro, bro.
Undertaker Frank said on 3/Jul/19
To Sotiris defense Andre did appear about 6ft 8 in those pics with Wepner & Jonathan but if you see the actual fight with Andre & Wepner Andre did have Wepner by atleast 4 inches minimum
To Sotiris defense Andre did appear about 6ft 8 in those pics with Wepner & Jonathan but if you see the actual fight with Andre & Wepner Andre did have Wepner by atleast 4 inches minimum
Boss said on 3/Jul/19
NINJA said on 2/Jul/19
Sotiris- 6'8" bro???? Come on now!!!!!!! I think most of the evidence shows him to be 7ft or maybe a hair better in his prime, and gradually losing down to 6'10" ish during the twilight of his life.
Exactly right Ninja. That's the way the evidence points toward.
NINJA said on 2/Jul/19
Sotiris- 6'8" bro???? Come on now!!!!!!! I think most of the evidence shows him to be 7ft or maybe a hair better in his prime, and gradually losing down to 6'10" ish during the twilight of his life.
Exactly right Ninja. That's the way the evidence points toward.
Gretz said on 2/Jul/19
Gravis and 62B i think we are close in our estimate of Andre`s peak height(and Gravis thanks for posting the hockey pics,if you get the time could you repost the pics of Andre back stage with the bruins.Who is the other guy Andre is picking up with Bobby Orr?)I met Andre at the philly spectrum in 1983 he was by far the biggest human I have ever met,I patted him on the back his torso was like a 55 gallon drum.If his legs where longer like Kevin Nash he would be 7'3" no question.i first posted pics of Andre in 1969 about 12 years ago,but most of the pics are with guys unknown to us.So I don`t think we will ever know his exact height.But my best estimate(and I also have 300 plus tapes of his matches)Is that if you measured Andre in 1972 out of bed he would be 7'.75".The pics with Wilt in 1984 he looks 6'11.5" to me,I have heard rumors that at wm3 Andre was 6'10".75.
Gravis and 62B i think we are close in our estimate of Andre`s peak height(and Gravis thanks for posting the hockey pics,if you get the time could you repost the pics of Andre back stage with the bruins.Who is the other guy Andre is picking up with Bobby Orr?)I met Andre at the philly spectrum in 1983 he was by far the biggest human I have ever met,I patted him on the back his torso was like a 55 gallon drum.If his legs where longer like Kevin Nash he would be 7'3" no question.i first posted pics of Andre in 1969 about 12 years ago,but most of the pics are with guys unknown to us.So I don`t think we will ever know his exact height.But my best estimate(and I also have 300 plus tapes of his matches)Is that if you measured Andre in 1972 out of bed he would be 7'.75".The pics with Wilt in 1984 he looks 6'11.5" to me,I have heard rumors that at wm3 Andre was 6'10".75.
NINJA said on 2/Jul/19
Sotiris- 6'8" bro???? Come on now!!!!!!! I think most of the evidence shows him to be 7ft or maybe a hair better in his prime, and gradually losing down to 6'10" ish during the twilight of his life.
Sotiris- 6'8" bro???? Come on now!!!!!!! I think most of the evidence shows him to be 7ft or maybe a hair better in his prime, and gradually losing down to 6'10" ish during the twilight of his life.
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Jul/19
@Boss Thanks for stalking my Twitter posts, freak show. I used to think Andre was as low as 6'8", thanks to pics like this w/ 6'5" Chuck Wepner back in 1976 Click Here Does Andre look very tall there? No, he doesn't. Did he look especially tall next to 6'5" Don Leo Jonathan in 1972 or 6'4" Don Lane in 1978? No, he didn't. Guess what? W/ poor posture and certain angles, in certain pics he did look 6'8".
That was then, this is now. Those tweets I posted were dated Nov 6, 2017 and Jul 18 2018. Since then, I realized that he was max 6'10.5", maybe as low as 6'10" evening height, and easily looked 6'9" when slouching. Both Chuck Wepner and Chet Coppock thought he was 6'9". Did his giant afro make him look taller? Sure. I'm not counting his hair.
Do you still see me saying Andre was only 6'8"...? No. So, maybe shut the (bleep) up.
One of my tweets said this was Don Leo Jonathan... Click Here Since that tweet, I also corrected myself here by stating that was really Michael Nador.
@Boss Thanks for stalking my Twitter posts, freak show. I used to think Andre was as low as 6'8", thanks to pics like this w/ 6'5" Chuck Wepner back in 1976 Click Here Does Andre look very tall there? No, he doesn't. Did he look especially tall next to 6'5" Don Leo Jonathan in 1972 or 6'4" Don Lane in 1978? No, he didn't. Guess what? W/ poor posture and certain angles, in certain pics he did look 6'8".
That was then, this is now. Those tweets I posted were dated Nov 6, 2017 and Jul 18 2018. Since then, I realized that he was max 6'10.5", maybe as low as 6'10" evening height, and easily looked 6'9" when slouching. Both Chuck Wepner and Chet Coppock thought he was 6'9". Did his giant afro make him look taller? Sure. I'm not counting his hair.
Do you still see me saying Andre was only 6'8"...? No. So, maybe shut the (bleep) up.
One of my tweets said this was Don Leo Jonathan... Click Here Since that tweet, I also corrected myself here by stating that was really Michael Nador.
Boss said on 1/Jul/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jul/19
@Boss The autopsy for Andre has him at 6'9.75". There's no way in hell he was 6'10.75" when he died. Stop pulling info out of your (bleep).
There was never a height given for Andre's autopsy only that the crematorium could fit a 6'10" man and Andre was too large to fit in and had to be cremated in America. These are facts.
Here are some are Sortiris Gravas estimate's of a peak Andre. You are truly trolling here. Where did you pull these from ?
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Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jul/19
@Boss The autopsy for Andre has him at 6'9.75". There's no way in hell he was 6'10.75" when he died. Stop pulling info out of your (bleep).
There was never a height given for Andre's autopsy only that the crematorium could fit a 6'10" man and Andre was too large to fit in and had to be cremated in America. These are facts.
Here are some are Sortiris Gravas estimate's of a peak Andre. You are truly trolling here. Where did you pull these from ?
Click Here
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NINJA said on 1/Jul/19
Sotiris/Boss,
Would it be possible to produce proof of said autopsy measurements? I have heard talk of these measurements, but only talk, no proof. If no proof can be produced, then its just two guys arguing senselessly over what they thought they read. Produce proof and put this baby to bed...
Sotiris/Boss,
Would it be possible to produce proof of said autopsy measurements? I have heard talk of these measurements, but only talk, no proof. If no proof can be produced, then its just two guys arguing senselessly over what they thought they read. Produce proof and put this baby to bed...
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jul/19
@Boss The autopsy for Andre has him at 6'9.75". There's no way in hell he was 6'10.75" when he died. Stop pulling info out of your (bleep).
@Boss The autopsy for Andre has him at 6'9.75". There's no way in hell he was 6'10.75" when he died. Stop pulling info out of your (bleep).
Boss said on 28/Jun/19
Here is how a tailor does a backdrop or back length measurement and it's supposed to be done barefoot. It measures from bottom of shirt collar to the floor.
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Here we have a prime Andre's actual back length measurement of 74" or 6'2". You still have to add his head length and some neck to get his full height. Even if it was done in the 1" shoes he was wearing he would still be over 7'. You can't even read the measurements on paper looking at the picture but with auto zoom now it's easy to see so they are definitely his real measurements. He was being measured for a new suit.
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Again I will go with the actual facts over any guessing.
Here is how a tailor does a backdrop or back length measurement and it's supposed to be done barefoot. It measures from bottom of shirt collar to the floor.
Click Here
Here we have a prime Andre's actual back length measurement of 74" or 6'2". You still have to add his head length and some neck to get his full height. Even if it was done in the 1" shoes he was wearing he would still be over 7'. You can't even read the measurements on paper looking at the picture but with auto zoom now it's easy to see so they are definitely his real measurements. He was being measured for a new suit.
Click Here
Again I will go with the actual facts over any guessing.
Canson said on 27/Jun/19
I agree with 62B. I think tip top peak 6’11” for Andre. Not 7’0”
I agree with 62B. I think tip top peak 6’11” for Andre. Not 7’0”
Boss said on 27/Jun/19
Andre's autopsy Andre was actually supposedly 6'10.75" not 6'9.75". Though there has never been proof shown except the crematorium in France could fit up to a 6'10" man and Andre was too big to fit in it and had to be cremated back in America.
Andre's autopsy Andre was actually supposedly 6'10.75" not 6'9.75". Though there has never been proof shown except the crematorium in France could fit up to a 6'10" man and Andre was too big to fit in it and had to be cremated back in America.
Sotiris Gravas said on 26/Jun/19
@Myself Love it! :D
@Myself Love it! :D
62B said on 26/Jun/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Jun/19
@62B Andre is said to have been measured at 6'10" at the age of 24, which would have been in 1970. His autopsy records him as being 6'9.75" -- which I'm sure is more than he would've been if it were taken while standing.
I don't think he was ever more than 6'10.5" (big head or not, height is height) and he was maybe 6'9.25" by the end of his life, thanks to morbid obesity. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. What are your precise estimates? I could understand how some ppl might think he was 6'11" peak height, but as for 7 feet tall -- no way. There's no way he was around 2" shorter than Kareem -- zero chance.
I think I will always believe Andre was 6'11" when I saw him. I did debated between 6'10" and 6'11", but in the end I felt he was closer to 6'11". Seeing as I bumped into him in the morning I figure realistically evening he could have been 6'10.25"-6'10.5". I just don't know how much height he may have lost by the time I saw him. He did go out of his way to stand tall when he saw that I was fairly tall myself.
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Jun/19
@62B Andre is said to have been measured at 6'10" at the age of 24, which would have been in 1970. His autopsy records him as being 6'9.75" -- which I'm sure is more than he would've been if it were taken while standing.
I don't think he was ever more than 6'10.5" (big head or not, height is height) and he was maybe 6'9.25" by the end of his life, thanks to morbid obesity. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. What are your precise estimates? I could understand how some ppl might think he was 6'11" peak height, but as for 7 feet tall -- no way. There's no way he was around 2" shorter than Kareem -- zero chance.
I think I will always believe Andre was 6'11" when I saw him. I did debated between 6'10" and 6'11", but in the end I felt he was closer to 6'11". Seeing as I bumped into him in the morning I figure realistically evening he could have been 6'10.25"-6'10.5". I just don't know how much height he may have lost by the time I saw him. He did go out of his way to stand tall when he saw that I was fairly tall myself.
Sotiris Gravas said on 25/Jun/19
@Boss Look at the image of Andre at the top of this page. Do you think that 6-inch-high afro was simply a stylistic choice on his part that was independent of the height he wanted to portray? What of his custom cowboy boots, w/ heels that were as big as 3" in some cases. Was that someone who wasn't height-conscious? Mark Twain famously said, "It's easier to fool ppl than to convince them that they've been fooled."
Look at the pics I already posted comparing Andre to 7'1.75" Kareem using Bill Shoemaker and Bill Anderson as benchmarks... Suggesting Andre was 7 feet tall is simply wrong based on photographic evidence... not vague recollections of ppl who might have seen him in the past. Eyewitness testimony is hardly reliable, especially from ppl that aren't "height experts."
As for why Rob lists Andre at 7 feet... This is his site. He's free to do as he pleases... It doesn't mean he's always right. Rob has Hogan at 6'6" peak height, which is also 100% wrong IMO. Hogan was max 6'5" -- and by 6'5", I don't mean maybe 6'5.5", I mean he was most likely only 6'4.5"... the same height as Bruiser Brody, as evidenced via pics of them standing beside Stan Hansen. Look at 6'4" Don Lane w/ Andre (both in cowboy boots) from 1978. Did Hogan look substantially taller than Lane? No, he didn't. Hogan almost always wore cowboy boots to look taller, not as a fashion choice.
I already posted video footage of John Studd looking max 6'5.5" next to 6'4.5" Bill Fralic, not the 6'6.5" that Rob has him at -- and Hogan was obviously shorter than Studd.
A shorter Hogan means a shorter Andre.
@62B Andre is said to have been measured at 6'10" at the age of 24, which would have been in 1970. His autopsy records him as being 6'9.75" -- which I'm sure is more than he would've been if it were taken while standing.
I don't think he was ever more than 6'10.5" (big head or not, height is height) and he was maybe 6'9.25" by the end of his life, thanks to morbid obesity. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. What are your precise estimates? I could understand how some ppl might think he was 6'11" peak height, but as for 7 feet tall -- no way. There's no way he was around 2" shorter than Kareem -- zero chance.
@Boss Look at the image of Andre at the top of this page. Do you think that 6-inch-high afro was simply a stylistic choice on his part that was independent of the height he wanted to portray? What of his custom cowboy boots, w/ heels that were as big as 3" in some cases. Was that someone who wasn't height-conscious? Mark Twain famously said, "It's easier to fool ppl than to convince them that they've been fooled."
Look at the pics I already posted comparing Andre to 7'1.75" Kareem using Bill Shoemaker and Bill Anderson as benchmarks... Suggesting Andre was 7 feet tall is simply wrong based on photographic evidence... not vague recollections of ppl who might have seen him in the past. Eyewitness testimony is hardly reliable, especially from ppl that aren't "height experts."
As for why Rob lists Andre at 7 feet... This is his site. He's free to do as he pleases... It doesn't mean he's always right. Rob has Hogan at 6'6" peak height, which is also 100% wrong IMO. Hogan was max 6'5" -- and by 6'5", I don't mean maybe 6'5.5", I mean he was most likely only 6'4.5"... the same height as Bruiser Brody, as evidenced via pics of them standing beside Stan Hansen. Look at 6'4" Don Lane w/ Andre (both in cowboy boots) from 1978. Did Hogan look substantially taller than Lane? No, he didn't. Hogan almost always wore cowboy boots to look taller, not as a fashion choice.
I already posted video footage of John Studd looking max 6'5.5" next to 6'4.5" Bill Fralic, not the 6'6.5" that Rob has him at -- and Hogan was obviously shorter than Studd.
A shorter Hogan means a shorter Andre.
@62B Andre is said to have been measured at 6'10" at the age of 24, which would have been in 1970. His autopsy records him as being 6'9.75" -- which I'm sure is more than he would've been if it were taken while standing.
I don't think he was ever more than 6'10.5" (big head or not, height is height) and he was maybe 6'9.25" by the end of his life, thanks to morbid obesity. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. What are your precise estimates? I could understand how some ppl might think he was 6'11" peak height, but as for 7 feet tall -- no way. There's no way he was around 2" shorter than Kareem -- zero chance.
JT said on 25/Jun/19
Here’s Dominique Wilkins with Bill Russell (~ 6’10”), Michael Jordan (~6’5”), and Rick Barry (~6’7” and a solid inch taller than Big John Studd). Click Here wilkins was not over 6'7".
62B, if the camera angles are fairly close, you can get a pretty good idea how people will measure up height-wise in comparison photos. Click Here Scaling based on the same size object (the basketball), I come out a little over 2 inches shorter in socks than Carmelo Anthony, who’s probably a little over 6’7” in shoes, and a little over 3 inches shorter than Lebron James, who has always looked a solid inch taller than Anthony. Click Here I measured 6’5” at a physical a few months ago so the comparison again is pretty close to reality.
Just eyeball the pic of a young Andre with his 5’11” aunt (6’1” in heels) or 6'1" Frank Valois and a 7 foot b-ball player next to a guy around 6’1” or 6'2" in shoes and it should be obvious Andre was never close to 7 foot barefoot.
The Andre-Wilt photos are useless b/c these are the heels on Andre’s cowboy boots. Click Here
Your encounter with Andre is a great story to tell but, without a photo or video of the two of you, you would not be able to peg his height within probably 2-3 inches given the size difference between him and you. Just like I don’t believe the estimate of Chet Coppock (RIP) that Andre was only 3 inches taller than him, even though Coppock should have been able to estimate Andre's height more accurately than you as the height differential is less and he saw Andre numerous times. Coppock was also around many Chicago Bulls players who were taller than Andre (Bill Cartwright, Bill Wennington, Will Purdue, Luc Longley, Toni Kukoc, etc.)
Here’s Coppock next to Nikolai Volkoff Click Here who I stood next to backstage at the LA Sports Arena in 1986 and looked around 6’2” (and one of the few wrestlers who was not walking around in cowboy boots out of gear). Coppock may have a footwear disadvantage with Volkoff and Wilkins so maybe he’s around 6’5.5” and rounded up to 6’6”, which is fair.
Here’s Dominique Wilkins with Bill Russell (~ 6’10”), Michael Jordan (~6’5”), and Rick Barry (~6’7” and a solid inch taller than Big John Studd). Click Here wilkins was not over 6'7".
62B, if the camera angles are fairly close, you can get a pretty good idea how people will measure up height-wise in comparison photos. Click Here Scaling based on the same size object (the basketball), I come out a little over 2 inches shorter in socks than Carmelo Anthony, who’s probably a little over 6’7” in shoes, and a little over 3 inches shorter than Lebron James, who has always looked a solid inch taller than Anthony. Click Here I measured 6’5” at a physical a few months ago so the comparison again is pretty close to reality.
Just eyeball the pic of a young Andre with his 5’11” aunt (6’1” in heels) or 6'1" Frank Valois and a 7 foot b-ball player next to a guy around 6’1” or 6'2" in shoes and it should be obvious Andre was never close to 7 foot barefoot.
The Andre-Wilt photos are useless b/c these are the heels on Andre’s cowboy boots. Click Here
Your encounter with Andre is a great story to tell but, without a photo or video of the two of you, you would not be able to peg his height within probably 2-3 inches given the size difference between him and you. Just like I don’t believe the estimate of Chet Coppock (RIP) that Andre was only 3 inches taller than him, even though Coppock should have been able to estimate Andre's height more accurately than you as the height differential is less and he saw Andre numerous times. Coppock was also around many Chicago Bulls players who were taller than Andre (Bill Cartwright, Bill Wennington, Will Purdue, Luc Longley, Toni Kukoc, etc.)
Here’s Coppock next to Nikolai Volkoff Click Here who I stood next to backstage at the LA Sports Arena in 1986 and looked around 6’2” (and one of the few wrestlers who was not walking around in cowboy boots out of gear). Coppock may have a footwear disadvantage with Volkoff and Wilkins so maybe he’s around 6’5.5” and rounded up to 6’6”, which is fair.
Myself said on 24/Jun/19
@Sotiris
Yeah, DD's 6'3 friend was probably measured by Trump's doctor, lmao
@Sotiris
Yeah, DD's 6'3 friend was probably measured by Trump's doctor, lmao
Boss said on 23/Jun/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Jun/19
@Boss You have habitual liars like The Rock and Hogan who like to tell ppl that they're now 6'5". Who gives a crap what Andre told ppl his height was? These guys had a vested interest in promulgating their kayfabe BS.
Andre wasn't giving his kayfabe height of 7'4" and I think it is definitely relavent to his height discussion. Andre was a lot more truthful man than Hogan.
With all the proof presented here over the years Andre gets a 7' listing so you JT and some others are just not as good at judging height as you think. If so then why doesn't Rob have him at 6'10"?
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Jun/19
@Boss You have habitual liars like The Rock and Hogan who like to tell ppl that they're now 6'5". Who gives a crap what Andre told ppl his height was? These guys had a vested interest in promulgating their kayfabe BS.
Andre wasn't giving his kayfabe height of 7'4" and I think it is definitely relavent to his height discussion. Andre was a lot more truthful man than Hogan.
With all the proof presented here over the years Andre gets a 7' listing so you JT and some others are just not as good at judging height as you think. If so then why doesn't Rob have him at 6'10"?
62B said on 23/Jun/19
Sotiris, how much height, if any, do you figure Andre would have lost from say the mid 70's to 1988?
Sotiris, how much height, if any, do you figure Andre would have lost from say the mid 70's to 1988?
Lanky said on 23/Jun/19
Guys, what would we say is the lowest Andre could have possibly measured during his final years?
Guys, what would we say is the lowest Andre could have possibly measured during his final years?
62B said on 23/Jun/19
Sotiris you cant just take two different photos, put them together and have them be anywhere near accurate for height comparisons. Its just not how it works. The camera angles and distances from the camera of both pictures would have to be spot on, which isn't likely to happen. JT superimposes pictures of Andre and basketball players, but none of them look anything like the real pictures of Andre and Wilt together.
Having stood right next to both Andre and listed 7'4" Rik Smits, I thought Andre was about 4" shorter. I can see Smits being a little under 7'4" due to basketball players of his era generally being listed as a shoe height. But if you scroll down this article about Smits, there is a picture of him looking comfortably taller than Shaq Click Here
Sotiris you cant just take two different photos, put them together and have them be anywhere near accurate for height comparisons. Its just not how it works. The camera angles and distances from the camera of both pictures would have to be spot on, which isn't likely to happen. JT superimposes pictures of Andre and basketball players, but none of them look anything like the real pictures of Andre and Wilt together.
Having stood right next to both Andre and listed 7'4" Rik Smits, I thought Andre was about 4" shorter. I can see Smits being a little under 7'4" due to basketball players of his era generally being listed as a shoe height. But if you scroll down this article about Smits, there is a picture of him looking comfortably taller than Shaq Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 22/Jun/19
@Boss You have habitual liars like The Rock and Hogan who like to tell ppl that they're now 6'5". Who gives a crap what Andre told ppl his height was? These guys had a vested interest in promulgating their kayfabe BS.
Anyone w/ eyes can look at Kareem and Shoemaker vs. Andre (no cowboy boots this time) and Shoemaker and know for a FACT that Andre looked to be around 4" shorter.
@62B Wilkins was indeed 6'7" back then and Coppock was clearly 6'5" next to him... in other words, I wasn't downgrading him, despite your opinion to the contrary. As for JT's photos not being of any use, your comment is far too dismissive. While not 100% to scale, what he posts are close approximations. Why in the world would that be of no use?
Here's 6'7" Magic w/ Reggie Theus, maybe 6'5" peak (listed 6'7") in 2016... Click Here
Recent pic of height-loss Coppock w/ Theus... Click Here
This was 6'5" Theus and 6'10" Moses Malone (listed 6'10")... Click Here
Hogan (max 6'5" peak) and max 6'10.5" peak Andre (1987)... Click Here
6'5" Chuck Wepner and Andre (1976)... Click Here , Click Here
@Boss You have habitual liars like The Rock and Hogan who like to tell ppl that they're now 6'5". Who gives a crap what Andre told ppl his height was? These guys had a vested interest in promulgating their kayfabe BS.
Anyone w/ eyes can look at Kareem and Shoemaker vs. Andre (no cowboy boots this time) and Shoemaker and know for a FACT that Andre looked to be around 4" shorter.
@62B Wilkins was indeed 6'7" back then and Coppock was clearly 6'5" next to him... in other words, I wasn't downgrading him, despite your opinion to the contrary. As for JT's photos not being of any use, your comment is far too dismissive. While not 100% to scale, what he posts are close approximations. Why in the world would that be of no use?
Here's 6'7" Magic w/ Reggie Theus, maybe 6'5" peak (listed 6'7") in 2016... Click Here
Recent pic of height-loss Coppock w/ Theus... Click Here
This was 6'5" Theus and 6'10" Moses Malone (listed 6'10")... Click Here
Hogan (max 6'5" peak) and max 6'10.5" peak Andre (1987)... Click Here
6'5" Chuck Wepner and Andre (1976)... Click Here , Click Here
62B said on 21/Jun/19
The best pictures out there so far, for height guestimates, are of Wilt and Andre. JT, I know you mean well, and its kind of a hobby for you, but most, if not all, of the Altered Photos you post just aren't of any use. Not anymore than my personal experience with out any photographic proof. I'll give you that Coppock looks an inch and a half to maybe two inches shorter than Dominique Wilkins in your video, but do you really know he was 6'7" flat? Do his basketball shoes give him an advantage over Coppock? We don't really know. And why should we take Coppocks estimate of Andre's height if you don't even want to believe what he said his own height was?
The best pictures out there so far, for height guestimates, are of Wilt and Andre. JT, I know you mean well, and its kind of a hobby for you, but most, if not all, of the Altered Photos you post just aren't of any use. Not anymore than my personal experience with out any photographic proof. I'll give you that Coppock looks an inch and a half to maybe two inches shorter than Dominique Wilkins in your video, but do you really know he was 6'7" flat? Do his basketball shoes give him an advantage over Coppock? We don't really know. And why should we take Coppocks estimate of Andre's height if you don't even want to believe what he said his own height was?
Boss said on 21/Jun/19
myself
Welcome DD. Here is the most by far the most detailed account of Andre ever being measured. Probably in his wrestling boots or early morning measurement.
Click Here
Andre claimed a height of 2.14m in 1971 video of him in France. Also, when Andre was asked his height by friends or family he always said 2.18m or 7'1.5" we learned from Andre's nephew Boris Rousimoff. Frenchy Bernard said Andre was measured while in Japan being diagnosed for his condition Andre was measured at 7'0.5" by a doctor. Andre's head was 12.5" to 13" range which makes other tall people look taller in comparison because of their height view points are higher than Andre's but Andre's torso and head are much longer.
Here Andre standing in exact same spot with same camera angle with his head up and with his head slightly down. There is a 2" difference when he stands straight. Andre rarely stood with posture as to be measured as most tall men do.
Click Here
Here are Andre's cowboy being measured with a 2" heel. The same style boot as with Wilt.
Click Here
I would take these facts over any guessing that's done here. The comparisons here are altered and suited to fit people's guesstimate's and everyone in the world is 1" or 2" then they say they are or they were actually measured at.
myself
Welcome DD. Here is the most by far the most detailed account of Andre ever being measured. Probably in his wrestling boots or early morning measurement.
Click Here
Andre claimed a height of 2.14m in 1971 video of him in France. Also, when Andre was asked his height by friends or family he always said 2.18m or 7'1.5" we learned from Andre's nephew Boris Rousimoff. Frenchy Bernard said Andre was measured while in Japan being diagnosed for his condition Andre was measured at 7'0.5" by a doctor. Andre's head was 12.5" to 13" range which makes other tall people look taller in comparison because of their height view points are higher than Andre's but Andre's torso and head are much longer.
Here Andre standing in exact same spot with same camera angle with his head up and with his head slightly down. There is a 2" difference when he stands straight. Andre rarely stood with posture as to be measured as most tall men do.
Click Here
Here are Andre's cowboy being measured with a 2" heel. The same style boot as with Wilt.
Click Here
I would take these facts over any guessing that's done here. The comparisons here are altered and suited to fit people's guesstimate's and everyone in the world is 1" or 2" then they say they are or they were actually measured at.
Sotiris Gravas said on 21/Jun/19
@D.D. Guns Your post was definitely entertaining. Not in the least bit informative as per reality, mind you, but entertaining nonetheless.
You say you (6'0") look just as tall as your 6'3" friend, and sometimes taller in most of your pictures together... That's nonsense.
You'll forgive me if I don't believe anything you have to say. No offense.
@D.D. Guns Your post was definitely entertaining. Not in the least bit informative as per reality, mind you, but entertaining nonetheless.
You say you (6'0") look just as tall as your 6'3" friend, and sometimes taller in most of your pictures together... That's nonsense.
You'll forgive me if I don't believe anything you have to say. No offense.
D.D. Guns said on 20/Jun/19
I love this site. Longtime follower.
That said, there is no way this guy was under 7 feet peak. I hate to be a cliche but this place consistently downgrades people.
I’m 44, I have been in the wrestling business since I was 23. I myself am 72 inches tall barefoot. I got measured last week as I am still in the military. I have worked with guys from 5’6 to 7’0. Anything less than a peak 6’8 taker, peak 6’8 Kane, and peak 6’10 Nash is insane. I am talking barefoot height. Big show is at least 6’11 now and was minimum 7 at his peak.
It’s easy to judge from a far, but height is subjective. My best friend is 6’3 but we look the same height in most of our pictures together. I even look taller in a few pictures.
6’10 is out of the question for this guys peak height. I would believe 7’2 before 6’10. Bring the hate.
I love this site. Longtime follower.
That said, there is no way this guy was under 7 feet peak. I hate to be a cliche but this place consistently downgrades people.
I’m 44, I have been in the wrestling business since I was 23. I myself am 72 inches tall barefoot. I got measured last week as I am still in the military. I have worked with guys from 5’6 to 7’0. Anything less than a peak 6’8 taker, peak 6’8 Kane, and peak 6’10 Nash is insane. I am talking barefoot height. Big show is at least 6’11 now and was minimum 7 at his peak.
It’s easy to judge from a far, but height is subjective. My best friend is 6’3 but we look the same height in most of our pictures together. I even look taller in a few pictures.
6’10 is out of the question for this guys peak height. I would believe 7’2 before 6’10. Bring the hate.
JT said on 19/Jun/19
Here’s Chet Coppock with Dominique Wilkins, who was around 6’7” Click Here
Click Here The top video shows poor Andre getting out of a car in 1985 although wearing cowboy boots did not help. The heels on those boots Click Here
cmillzz said on 17/Jun/19
6’10 peak is way too low. Maybe in his later years, but not in the early 70s.
Click Here This is 1970 when Andre supposedly stopped growing. Andre’s 5’11” aunt is around 6’1” in heels; Darren Collison measured 6’1.5” in shoes. Roy Hibbert is probably strong 7’2” in shoes. There’s no way Andre came close to 7’0” barefoot at his peak; in cowboy boots, yes.
Here’s Chet Coppock with Dominique Wilkins, who was around 6’7” Click Here
Click Here The top video shows poor Andre getting out of a car in 1985 although wearing cowboy boots did not help. The heels on those boots Click Here
cmillzz said on 17/Jun/19
6’10 peak is way too low. Maybe in his later years, but not in the early 70s.
Click Here This is 1970 when Andre supposedly stopped growing. Andre’s 5’11” aunt is around 6’1” in heels; Darren Collison measured 6’1.5” in shoes. Roy Hibbert is probably strong 7’2” in shoes. There’s no way Andre came close to 7’0” barefoot at his peak; in cowboy boots, yes.
Sotiris Gravas said on 18/Jun/19
@Mm Yeah... :)... I know. What I posted is what I think of Pdoggy's comments. In other words: not much. Maybe I should've posted something like this for him, lol... Click Here
@Mm Yeah... :)... I know. What I posted is what I think of Pdoggy's comments. In other words: not much. Maybe I should've posted something like this for him, lol... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 17/Jun/19
@62B You're right, Coppock did indeed claim 6'6", but I think He was 6'6" in shoes from pics that are available. I put Jordan max 6'4.75" peak and I don't consider Coppock having been noticeably taller based on a pic like this... Click Here This was him w/ Hogan... Click Here
Coppok w/ Hogan, along w/ Jimbo Covert (listed 6'4") and Otis Wilson (listed 6'2"): Click Here
Here he was w/ Mike Ditka (listed 6'3")... Click Here , Click Here
W/ maybe 6'0.5" Arnie.... Click Here
This was a much older Coppock w/ Otis Wilson and Andre Dawson (listed 6'3" peak): Click Here I doubt he was ever 6'6" barefoot.
Andre was never more than 6'10.5" IMO, and I really do think he could have been as low as 6'10", that short ppl could have easily mistaken for taller -- especially b/c of his big afro... and was max 6'9.5" when he passed away. This was Andre at the age of 30 in 1976 w/ 5'9" (not 5'11") Verne Gagne: Click Here Remember, he's said to have been measured as 6'10" when he was 24. Even w/ a huge head, Andre looks max 6'10" there, not 6'11", definitely not 7 feet tall. Again, this was Andre in his prime, not looking taller than 6'10".
@62B You're right, Coppock did indeed claim 6'6", but I think He was 6'6" in shoes from pics that are available. I put Jordan max 6'4.75" peak and I don't consider Coppock having been noticeably taller based on a pic like this... Click Here This was him w/ Hogan... Click Here
Coppok w/ Hogan, along w/ Jimbo Covert (listed 6'4") and Otis Wilson (listed 6'2"): Click Here
Here he was w/ Mike Ditka (listed 6'3")... Click Here , Click Here
W/ maybe 6'0.5" Arnie.... Click Here
This was a much older Coppock w/ Otis Wilson and Andre Dawson (listed 6'3" peak): Click Here I doubt he was ever 6'6" barefoot.
Andre was never more than 6'10.5" IMO, and I really do think he could have been as low as 6'10", that short ppl could have easily mistaken for taller -- especially b/c of his big afro... and was max 6'9.5" when he passed away. This was Andre at the age of 30 in 1976 w/ 5'9" (not 5'11") Verne Gagne: Click Here Remember, he's said to have been measured as 6'10" when he was 24. Even w/ a huge head, Andre looks max 6'10" there, not 6'11", definitely not 7 feet tall. Again, this was Andre in his prime, not looking taller than 6'10".
cmillzz said on 17/Jun/19
6’10 peak is way too low. Maybe in his later years, but not in the early 70s.
6’10 peak is way too low. Maybe in his later years, but not in the early 70s.
62B said on 16/Jun/19
Sotiris. A 1988 Andre was still in the 6'10"-6'11" range. Coppock always claimed 6'6" and was noticeably taller than guys like Jordan who were right around 6'5". No need to down grade anyone.
Sotiris. A 1988 Andre was still in the 6'10"-6'11" range. Coppock always claimed 6'6" and was noticeably taller than guys like Jordan who were right around 6'5". No need to down grade anyone.
Sotiris Gravas said on 15/Jun/19
@Dan Trojan You have tall 6'5" guys like Chuck Wepner and Chet Coppock (who tragically passed away recently), who thought he was only 6'9", so, I'm pretty sure Andre was never 6'11", let alone 7 feet tall.
Supposedly, his autopsy had him at 6'9.75". However, being measured on a table is not the same as standing and having all of that weight bearing down. Also, supposedly, he measured in at 6'10" at the age of 24.
Many ppl think Andre was easily 7'0" b/c Hogan was 6'7"... but Hogan was never more than 6'5" peak height... making something like 6'10" a lot more believable. (I actually think Hogan might have been 6'4.5" peak.)
One more thing: ppl love saying Andre's head was HUGE. The thing is, all of that head size doesn't translate to added height... Some of that is simply a bigger acromegalic jaw which hangs lower... not more height. Many ppl fail to understand this. Keep in mind that Maurice Tillet's big head was under 11.5" long... Click Here The head sculpt which shows Tillet's head as 13.5" is bogus:
Click Here
@Dan Trojan You have tall 6'5" guys like Chuck Wepner and Chet Coppock (who tragically passed away recently), who thought he was only 6'9", so, I'm pretty sure Andre was never 6'11", let alone 7 feet tall.
Supposedly, his autopsy had him at 6'9.75". However, being measured on a table is not the same as standing and having all of that weight bearing down. Also, supposedly, he measured in at 6'10" at the age of 24.
Many ppl think Andre was easily 7'0" b/c Hogan was 6'7"... but Hogan was never more than 6'5" peak height... making something like 6'10" a lot more believable. (I actually think Hogan might have been 6'4.5" peak.)
One more thing: ppl love saying Andre's head was HUGE. The thing is, all of that head size doesn't translate to added height... Some of that is simply a bigger acromegalic jaw which hangs lower... not more height. Many ppl fail to understand this. Keep in mind that Maurice Tillet's big head was under 11.5" long... Click Here The head sculpt which shows Tillet's head as 13.5" is bogus:
Click Here
Mm said on 14/Jun/19
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Jun/19
@Pdoggy Hahahahaha. Definitely, brother... Click Here
@Sotiris
Pdoggy might be referring to some of your comparisons. Just saying.
Sotiris Gravas said on 13/Jun/19
@Pdoggy Hahahahaha. Definitely, brother... Click Here
@Sotiris
Pdoggy might be referring to some of your comparisons. Just saying.
Dan Trojan said on 14/Jun/19
Honestly sotiris i know i don't agree with you on much but i do with andre the giant i truly think he was never more than 6'10"
Honestly sotiris i know i don't agree with you on much but i do with andre the giant i truly think he was never more than 6'10"
Pdoggy said on 11/Jun/19
Like I said.
Haven't been on for a very long time still see all the hilarious way out of wack comparisons comments made just comical.
Like I said.
Haven't been on for a very long time still see all the hilarious way out of wack comparisons comments made just comical.
Big ed said on 11/Jun/19
How big do reckon Anderson's head is because if you put another of his heads on top he still wouldn't be as tall as Andre most adult male be 9-10" his head looks quite big with ultimate warrior so again Andre taller than 6'10 and he wouldn't have been as tall then anyway compared to a 1972 Andre
How big do reckon Anderson's head is because if you put another of his heads on top he still wouldn't be as tall as Andre most adult male be 9-10" his head looks quite big with ultimate warrior so again Andre taller than 6'10 and he wouldn't have been as tall then anyway compared to a 1972 Andre
Sotiris Gravas said on 11/Jun/19
@Halb Much obliged, good sir. (Always nice to get some positive feedback.)
@Halb Much obliged, good sir. (Always nice to get some positive feedback.)
Halb said on 8/Jun/19
Some good work there Sotiris Gravas, I reckon you're bang on for most of it.
Some good work there Sotiris Gravas, I reckon you're bang on for most of it.
JT said on 7/Jun/19
Click Here Nick Pond (top left photo) was listed as 6’4” when he played basketball at North Carolina State in the mid-50s.
Click Here Nick Pond (top left photo) was listed as 6’4” when he played basketball at North Carolina State in the mid-50s.
JT said on 7/Jun/19
Click Here The woman (Kristin Chenoweth – 4’10” per Rob) would probably be close to 5’1”, or around an inch taller than 4’11” Bill Shoemaker in shoes, if standing straight in those boots. Boban Marjanovic looks strong 7’2” to 7’3”.
Click Here The woman (Kristin Chenoweth – 4’10” per Rob) would probably be close to 5’1”, or around an inch taller than 4’11” Bill Shoemaker in shoes, if standing straight in those boots. Boban Marjanovic looks strong 7’2” to 7’3”.
Sotiris Gravas said on 7/Jun/19
@Big Ed This is Andre vs. 7'1.75" Kareem.... Click Here Does Andre look 6'11" there? The answer to that is a resounding NO. He looks max 6'10.5", I daresay, as low as 6'10".
Bill Anderson w/ Kareem (not standing straight)... Click Here
Anderson w/ Andre (closer to camera)... Click Here
Anderson/Andre (closer) in 1974... Click Here
Anderson w/ Khali... Click Here
JT superimposed pic of Andre vs. Ernie Ladd (6'7" peak height) w/ Anderson... Click Here
Ladd w/ 6'2" peak height George H. W. Bush... Click Here
As for Anderson's height, here he is w/ Ultimate Warrior... Click Here , Click Here
Anderson/6'1" Vince McMahon... Click Here
W/ 5'9" Van Damme... Click Here
@Big Ed This is Andre vs. 7'1.75" Kareem.... Click Here Does Andre look 6'11" there? The answer to that is a resounding NO. He looks max 6'10.5", I daresay, as low as 6'10".
Bill Anderson w/ Kareem (not standing straight)... Click Here
Anderson w/ Andre (closer to camera)... Click Here
Anderson/Andre (closer) in 1974... Click Here
Anderson w/ Khali... Click Here
JT superimposed pic of Andre vs. Ernie Ladd (6'7" peak height) w/ Anderson... Click Here
Ladd w/ 6'2" peak height George H. W. Bush... Click Here
As for Anderson's height, here he is w/ Ultimate Warrior... Click Here , Click Here
Anderson/6'1" Vince McMahon... Click Here
W/ 5'9" Van Damme... Click Here
MelvinJones said on 6/Jun/19
I still can't believe that people think that billed heights are actually real. Vince McMahon luvs you guys!
I still can't believe that people think that billed heights are actually real. Vince McMahon luvs you guys!
Big ed said on 5/Jun/19
Sotiris gravas all your comparasions are way off proportion just to suit wat u want, giant Baba was 3" taller than Hogan Andre was 4" taller than Baba there's only 1 picture of Andre were he looks under 7ft and thats with wilt an even then we don't know were the camera was it could easily have been angled in favour of wilt not intentionally cameras are usually angled left to right that's why people standing on the left look taller he may have been 6'11 anything less peak I don't think so
Sotiris gravas all your comparasions are way off proportion just to suit wat u want, giant Baba was 3" taller than Hogan Andre was 4" taller than Baba there's only 1 picture of Andre were he looks under 7ft and thats with wilt an even then we don't know were the camera was it could easily have been angled in favour of wilt not intentionally cameras are usually angled left to right that's why people standing on the left look taller he may have been 6'11 anything less peak I don't think so
Sotiris Gravas said on 4/Jun/19
Elgin Baylor w/ Kareem (and Wilt, etc.) in 1992... Click Here , Click Here
And in 2017... Click Here
Compare this w/ my previous post.
Elgin Baylor w/ Kareem (and Wilt, etc.) in 1992... Click Here , Click Here
And in 2017... Click Here
Compare this w/ my previous post.
Sotiris Gravas said on 4/Jun/19
Kareem and Arnie on the set of "Commando" (1985)... Click Here
Arnie and Andre... Click Here
Some JT composite pics of Andre:
Andre vs. Kareem... Click Here
Vs. 6'8" James Worthy... Click Here
Vs. Elgin Baylor (listed 6'5")... Click Here
6'7" Magic and Baylor (2014)... Click Here
Kareem and Arnie on the set of "Commando" (1985)... Click Here
Arnie and Andre... Click Here
Some JT composite pics of Andre:
Andre vs. Kareem... Click Here
Vs. 6'8" James Worthy... Click Here
Vs. Elgin Baylor (listed 6'5")... Click Here
6'7" Magic and Baylor (2014)... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 4/Jun/19
This is for Gretz:
Maybe 7'0.5" height-loss Kareem and Wayne Gretzky (2014)... Click Here
This is for Gretz:
Maybe 7'0.5" height-loss Kareem and Wayne Gretzky (2014)... Click Here
Pdoggy said on 3/Jun/19
Haven't been on for a very long time still see all the hilarious way out of wack comparisons comments made just comical.
Haven't been on for a very long time still see all the hilarious way out of wack comparisons comments made just comical.
Sotiris Gravas said on 2/Jun/19
Another guy whose height gets inflated is Nikolai Valuev. Supposedly once listed as 7'4", then 7'2", now 7'0". Editor Rob lists "Nicolai" as 6'11", though, I think he might just be 6'10", even w/ that big head of his.
Seen here w/ 6'2" David Haye... Fact Click Here vs. Fiction Click Here
Remind you of anybody, lol ... Click Here
This doesn't look like 6'11" next to 6'1" Evander Holyfield... Click Here He looks taller here... Click Here Andre/6'1" Frank Valois... Click Here
Holyfield and maybe 7'0.5" Roy Hibbert (not standing straight)... Click Here
Here's a superimposed image of Hibbert w/ Andre crafted by fellow poster JT Click Here
Here's a composite pic of Hibbert w/ Big Show... Click Here
Another guy whose height gets inflated is Nikolai Valuev. Supposedly once listed as 7'4", then 7'2", now 7'0". Editor Rob lists "Nicolai" as 6'11", though, I think he might just be 6'10", even w/ that big head of his.
Seen here w/ 6'2" David Haye... Fact Click Here vs. Fiction Click Here
Remind you of anybody, lol ... Click Here
This doesn't look like 6'11" next to 6'1" Evander Holyfield... Click Here He looks taller here... Click Here Andre/6'1" Frank Valois... Click Here
Holyfield and maybe 7'0.5" Roy Hibbert (not standing straight)... Click Here
Here's a superimposed image of Hibbert w/ Andre crafted by fellow poster JT Click Here
Here's a composite pic of Hibbert w/ Big Show... Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 1/Jun/19
Kareem (maybe 7'0.5" now) and 6'0.75" Obama (2016)... Click Here
Andre and 6'1" Frank Valois (1975)... Click Here
Does Andre look around the same height as Kareem? Obviously not. Remember, that was way back in 1975. Regardless of whether or not Editor Rob ever downgrades him, Andre was never 7 feet tall. It has less to do w/ my opinion and more to do w/ fact.
Even debating whether or not he was 7 feet tall is silly... Click Here He was probably max 6'10.5" peak height.
Kareem (maybe 7'0.5" now) and 6'0.75" Obama (2016)... Click Here
Andre and 6'1" Frank Valois (1975)... Click Here
Does Andre look around the same height as Kareem? Obviously not. Remember, that was way back in 1975. Regardless of whether or not Editor Rob ever downgrades him, Andre was never 7 feet tall. It has less to do w/ my opinion and more to do w/ fact.
Even debating whether or not he was 7 feet tall is silly... Click Here He was probably max 6'10.5" peak height.
Sotiris Gravas said on 31/May/19
@Jesica It's always nice to hear from a lady... I'm honored. Truly.
Harley Race (billed 6'1") w/ max 5'10" Mr. T... Click Here
Race and maybe 5'8" peak height Sly Stallone (circa 1978)... Click Here
Race and Backlund... Click Here
Race, Backlund, and Vince Sr. Click Here
Maybe 6'1" peak Vince Jr. and Sr. Click Here
If Backlund ever looked 6'0", it was 100% thanks to footwear. Here's a nice recent pic of Backlund w/ 6'1" Ryback (billed 6'3")... Click Here Backlund w/ Sid Eudy Click Here
Backlund, Nick Bockwinkel (billed 5'10"), and Harley Race... Click Here
Andre was never as tall as most ppl swear by. A 6'10.5" guy can easily be mistaken for 7 feet tall by short ppl. At least, that's my humble opinion.
@Jesica It's always nice to hear from a lady... I'm honored. Truly.
Harley Race (billed 6'1") w/ max 5'10" Mr. T... Click Here
Race and maybe 5'8" peak height Sly Stallone (circa 1978)... Click Here
Race and Backlund... Click Here
Race, Backlund, and Vince Sr. Click Here
Maybe 6'1" peak Vince Jr. and Sr. Click Here
If Backlund ever looked 6'0", it was 100% thanks to footwear. Here's a nice recent pic of Backlund w/ 6'1" Ryback (billed 6'3")... Click Here Backlund w/ Sid Eudy Click Here
Backlund, Nick Bockwinkel (billed 5'10"), and Harley Race... Click Here
Andre was never as tall as most ppl swear by. A 6'10.5" guy can easily be mistaken for 7 feet tall by short ppl. At least, that's my humble opinion.
RP said on 31/May/19
Bob Backlund peak: barefoot: 5’11 1/2”
In regular shoes: 6’0 1/2” to 6’0 3/4”
IMO
Bob Backlund peak: barefoot: 5’11 1/2”
In regular shoes: 6’0 1/2” to 6’0 3/4”
IMO
Big ed said on 31/May/19
Thanks rp ye had about 5" on studd certainly around 1983 studd had higher heals and around 6" on Hogan early 80s then around 5 by wrestlemania 3 although Hogan has his head well raised in the standoff hard to get him in a good picture wi Ernie Ladd most evidence points to 7ft for Andre that I've seen he rarely stands to his full height in pictures
Thanks rp ye had about 5" on studd certainly around 1983 studd had higher heals and around 6" on Hogan early 80s then around 5 by wrestlemania 3 although Hogan has his head well raised in the standoff hard to get him in a good picture wi Ernie Ladd most evidence points to 7ft for Andre that I've seen he rarely stands to his full height in pictures
Jesica said on 30/May/19
Sotiris,
I think Bob Backlund was 6'0 or very close to it. I remember reading stats on him when he was wrestling in the NCAA. They listed him at 6'0. This was before his WWF days, which listed him at 6'1(probably with shoes on). As for Andre, I think he approached 7'0. I can't see him less than 6'11.5 at his peak.
Sotiris,
I think Bob Backlund was 6'0 or very close to it. I remember reading stats on him when he was wrestling in the NCAA. They listed him at 6'0. This was before his WWF days, which listed him at 6'1(probably with shoes on). As for Andre, I think he approached 7'0. I can't see him less than 6'11.5 at his peak.
RP said on 30/May/19
@ Big Ed
Ron Fuller: 6’7 1/2”
Hulk Hogan: 6’5 1/4”
Big John Studd: 6’6 3/4”
Giant Baba: 6’8”
@ Big Ed
Ron Fuller: 6’7 1/2”
Hulk Hogan: 6’5 1/4”
Big John Studd: 6’6 3/4”
Giant Baba: 6’8”
iconjj said on 30/May/19
I'm going to say at this point that the 6'10 was an accurate average height and I'm not ruling out that he could have hit 6'11 at some point. The wwf actually gives this away in a sense by adding 6 inches to his height, which is why you hear 7'4/7'5-...6'10/6'11. They actually did the same thing with Gonzales 7'6- 8'0... Doing the math is irrelevant here look at how wwf did their inflations. Makes sense.
But if you start with the 6'8 junk you've lost any credibility in my eyes as that has been disproved multiple times here already before half of you started posting. When you have to start downgrading everyone else's height to make your point then you're really reaching.
I'm going to say at this point that the 6'10 was an accurate average height and I'm not ruling out that he could have hit 6'11 at some point. The wwf actually gives this away in a sense by adding 6 inches to his height, which is why you hear 7'4/7'5-...6'10/6'11. They actually did the same thing with Gonzales 7'6- 8'0... Doing the math is irrelevant here look at how wwf did their inflations. Makes sense.
But if you start with the 6'8 junk you've lost any credibility in my eyes as that has been disproved multiple times here already before half of you started posting. When you have to start downgrading everyone else's height to make your point then you're really reaching.
Sotiris Gravas said on 29/May/19
Mm Bob Backlund was billed as 6'1", but that obviously wasn't his real height. Here he is w/ Nick Bockwinkel (billed 5'10")... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here
Backlund and Andre... Click Here
5'11" (billed 6'1") Ric Flair (maybe 5'10.5") and Andre... Click Here
5'11" (billed 6'1") Dino Bravo and Andre... Click Here
Backlund and 5'9" Ricky Steamboat (billed 5'10")... Click Here
Flair and Steamboat... Click Here , Click Here
In other words, Backlund wasn't 6'0"-6'1"... and Andre was NEVER 7 feet tall.
Mm Bob Backlund was billed as 6'1", but that obviously wasn't his real height. Here he is w/ Nick Bockwinkel (billed 5'10")... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here
Backlund and Andre... Click Here
5'11" (billed 6'1") Ric Flair (maybe 5'10.5") and Andre... Click Here
5'11" (billed 6'1") Dino Bravo and Andre... Click Here
Backlund and 5'9" Ricky Steamboat (billed 5'10")... Click Here
Flair and Steamboat... Click Here , Click Here
In other words, Backlund wasn't 6'0"-6'1"... and Andre was NEVER 7 feet tall.
Big ed said on 29/May/19
What height was Ron fuller John studd giant Baba Hulk Hogan these should be the comparasions made these were the tall men around him the most no point in trying to estimate his height with guys like Bruno it doesn't make sense he was around the 7ft mark or a little above peak then a little under that in his last 5 years
What height was Ron fuller John studd giant Baba Hulk Hogan these should be the comparasions made these were the tall men around him the most no point in trying to estimate his height with guys like Bruno it doesn't make sense he was around the 7ft mark or a little above peak then a little under that in his last 5 years
Big ed said on 29/May/19
What height was Ron fuller John studd giant Baba Hulk Hogan these should be the comparasions made these were the tall men around him the most no point in trying to estimate his height with guys like Bruno it doesn't make sense he was around the 7ft mark or a little above peak then a little under that in his last 5 years
What height was Ron fuller John studd giant Baba Hulk Hogan these should be the comparasions made these were the tall men around him the most no point in trying to estimate his height with guys like Bruno it doesn't make sense he was around the 7ft mark or a little above peak then a little under that in his last 5 years
Halb said on 28/May/19
THere's a new match on WWE yt. André and Hulk tag, both at peak height.
THere's a new match on WWE yt. André and Hulk tag, both at peak height.
Mm said on 28/May/19
Andre’s height varied quite a bit depending on his posture. He never had very good posture. Obviously it was worse when he was 500lbs+. The one photo that still has me convinced that he was 7’0 was the photo with 6’0-6’1 Bob Backlund. Andre has relatively good posture in that photo and he’s a full head(12”) over Bob, and Andre was wearing thin wrestling shoes. Bob has thick heeled wrestling shoes.
Andre’s height varied quite a bit depending on his posture. He never had very good posture. Obviously it was worse when he was 500lbs+. The one photo that still has me convinced that he was 7’0 was the photo with 6’0-6’1 Bob Backlund. Andre has relatively good posture in that photo and he’s a full head(12”) over Bob, and Andre was wearing thin wrestling shoes. Bob has thick heeled wrestling shoes.
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/May/19
Andre and Frank Valois (listed 6'1") Click Here from 1975... Click Here
6'0.5" Andy Richter w/ maybe 6'11.5" Shaq (2019)... Click Here
That's a BIG difference. Andre was obviously nowhere near 7 feet way back in 1975 when not in custom-made cowboy boots w/ massive heels.
Another look at Andre (closer to camera) and Valois... Click Here
@Editor Rob Your thoughts...? You pretty much know mine. Andre was never 7 feet tall. Perhaps he was max 6'10.5" peak height.
Here's a 2019 pic of Shaq w/ Kareem, proving Shaq is under 7 feet now... Click Here
Andre and Frank Valois (listed 6'1") Click Here from 1975... Click Here
6'0.5" Andy Richter w/ maybe 6'11.5" Shaq (2019)... Click Here
That's a BIG difference. Andre was obviously nowhere near 7 feet way back in 1975 when not in custom-made cowboy boots w/ massive heels.
Another look at Andre (closer to camera) and Valois... Click Here
@Editor Rob Your thoughts...? You pretty much know mine. Andre was never 7 feet tall. Perhaps he was max 6'10.5" peak height.
Here's a 2019 pic of Shaq w/ Kareem, proving Shaq is under 7 feet now... Click Here
tree said on 27/May/19
Too bad Andre was not this tall 6ft10 Martyn Bayfield with hagrid costume Click Here
Too bad Andre was not this tall 6ft10 Martyn Bayfield with hagrid costume Click Here
Canson said on 27/May/19
@Cmillz and Viper: he didn’t look over 6’11 flat with Wilt
@Cmillz and Viper: he didn’t look over 6’11 flat with Wilt
Sotiris Gravas said on 27/May/19
@JT Nice 1975 video of a 29-year-old Andre. This is Andre in cowboy boots in 1978 next to a 6'4" Don Lane, also in cowboy boots... Click Here Andre looks all of 6'10" barefoot here, which means Hogan was never 6'8", lol.
As for Nick Bockwinkel, he was billed as 5'10", whereas Bobby Heenan was billed as 6'0". I'll admit, sometimes Bockwinkel looked taller than he should. Here he is next to Sly Stallone, who I think might have been 5'8" peak height... Click Here
Here's 5'11" Heenan w/ Bockwinkel (and Ray Stevens, billed as 5'8")... Click Here
Heenan/Bockwinkel... (1984) Click Here , Click Here
@JT Nice 1975 video of a 29-year-old Andre. This is Andre in cowboy boots in 1978 next to a 6'4" Don Lane, also in cowboy boots... Click Here Andre looks all of 6'10" barefoot here, which means Hogan was never 6'8", lol.
As for Nick Bockwinkel, he was billed as 5'10", whereas Bobby Heenan was billed as 6'0". I'll admit, sometimes Bockwinkel looked taller than he should. Here he is next to Sly Stallone, who I think might have been 5'8" peak height... Click Here
Here's 5'11" Heenan w/ Bockwinkel (and Ray Stevens, billed as 5'8")... Click Here
Heenan/Bockwinkel... (1984) Click Here , Click Here
JT said on 25/May/19
Two new videos from former poster Chris Click Here Frank Valois was around 6’1” so this is before Andre started wearing cowboy boots Click Here
Click Here Add at least an inch to Andre given Shaq’s footwear advantage but the height difference still would have been significant.
Click Here Nick Bockwinkel was a little taller than Bobby Heenan and around Bob Backlund’s height. Andre in cowboy boots would not have been this tall next to Bockwinkel.
Two new videos from former poster Chris Click Here Frank Valois was around 6’1” so this is before Andre started wearing cowboy boots Click Here
Click Here Add at least an inch to Andre given Shaq’s footwear advantage but the height difference still would have been significant.
Click Here Nick Bockwinkel was a little taller than Bobby Heenan and around Bob Backlund’s height. Andre in cowboy boots would not have been this tall next to Bockwinkel.
Canson said on 24/May/19
@62B: he was noticeably shorter than Wilt Chamberlain. He def wasn’t 7’0” at a low I agree. I think what you guessed him at in person he was. It’s just that most people here won’t accept that. By deduction Hogan would be max 6’5.5
@62B: he was noticeably shorter than Wilt Chamberlain. He def wasn’t 7’0” at a low I agree. I think what you guessed him at in person he was. It’s just that most people here won’t accept that. By deduction Hogan would be max 6’5.5
cmillzz said on 24/May/19
Maybe 6’11.5” at a low in his prime?
Maybe 6’11.5” at a low in his prime?
viper said on 23/May/19
Probably right Canson.
There is a picture of him at a local restaurant there back in the early 70s.
He flat out looks 7-0 physically with others around him.
But 6-11 can give that illusion as well
Probably right Canson.
There is a picture of him at a local restaurant there back in the early 70s.
He flat out looks 7-0 physically with others around him.
But 6-11 can give that illusion as well
62B said on 23/May/19
Canson said on 21/May/19
He was peak 6’11 range not 7’
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I have to agree when it comes to peak evening. I was always a pro 7" peak Andre. But 7'0" in the morning makes the most sense. My guess Is that He probably lost a solid inch from the time he woke up until the time he went to bed. Maybe even a fraction more. I will probably always stick to 6'11" in the morning of 1988 when I bumped into him. However I think most of the time in the mid to late 80's evening in video's and pictures he looks more in the 6'10 - 6'10.5" range. No doubts for me that his poor posture has a huge affect in his standing around height. @Sotiris and JT. That picture you guys like to circulate of Andre and Arnold in the ring is useless for height comparison, as the camera angle hugely favors Arnold. All things considered, I don't think Wilt had more than 1.5" on Andre during Conan.
Canson said on 21/May/19
He was peak 6’11 range not 7’
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I have to agree when it comes to peak evening. I was always a pro 7" peak Andre. But 7'0" in the morning makes the most sense. My guess Is that He probably lost a solid inch from the time he woke up until the time he went to bed. Maybe even a fraction more. I will probably always stick to 6'11" in the morning of 1988 when I bumped into him. However I think most of the time in the mid to late 80's evening in video's and pictures he looks more in the 6'10 - 6'10.5" range. No doubts for me that his poor posture has a huge affect in his standing around height. @Sotiris and JT. That picture you guys like to circulate of Andre and Arnold in the ring is useless for height comparison, as the camera angle hugely favors Arnold. All things considered, I don't think Wilt had more than 1.5" on Andre during Conan.
Canson said on 21/May/19
He was peak 6’11 range not 7’
He was peak 6’11 range not 7’
James Brett 172cm said on 20/May/19
Sandy- someone of Andres size would never have been destined too live too 73 sadly
Sandy- someone of Andres size would never have been destined too live too 73 sadly
Sotiris Gravas said on 19/May/19
Arnie (looking up) and Shaq... Click Here
Arnie looking up to Wilt... Click Here
Arnie and Andre... Click Here
More Arnie/Wilt pics... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here
Arnie (looking up) and Shaq... Click Here
Arnie looking up to Wilt... Click Here
Arnie and Andre... Click Here
More Arnie/Wilt pics... Click Here , Click Here , Click Here
Sotiris Gravas said on 19/May/19
Andre shaking hands w/ Vince McMahon Sr. Click Here
Sr. and Jr. Click Here
Sr. and Bruno Sammartino... Click Here
Older Bruno and Killer Kowalski... Click Here
Killer and 6'8" Scott L. Schwartz... Click Here
Killer and Studd... Click Here
Bruno and 6'5.5" Primo Carnera... Click Here
Bruno and Giant Baba... Click Here
Vince Sr., Dory Funk Jr., and Baba... Click Here
Andre w/ Bruno and Verne Gagne... Click Here
Vince McMahon Sr. w/ Bruno and Verne Gagne... Click Here
5'9" Bruno and Andre... Click Here
Andre shaking hands w/ Vince McMahon Sr. Click Here
Sr. and Jr. Click Here
Sr. and Bruno Sammartino... Click Here
Older Bruno and Killer Kowalski... Click Here
Killer and 6'8" Scott L. Schwartz... Click Here
Killer and Studd... Click Here
Bruno and 6'5.5" Primo Carnera... Click Here
Bruno and Giant Baba... Click Here
Vince Sr., Dory Funk Jr., and Baba... Click Here
Andre w/ Bruno and Verne Gagne... Click Here
Vince McMahon Sr. w/ Bruno and Verne Gagne... Click Here
5'9" Bruno and Andre... Click Here
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 19/May/19
Andre would have turned 73 today. He lived a tragically short life of 46 years.
RIP Andre xxx 💐🌸🌹🏵️🌷🥀💐
7ft.
Andre would have turned 73 today. He lived a tragically short life of 46 years.
RIP Andre xxx 💐🌸🌹🏵️🌷🥀💐
7ft.
Ironman092289 said on 18/May/19
A solid 6'11 fellow, maybe close to 7'0 at his full peak. At his death honestly, he lost a lot of height. Maybe 6'9.75" when he died.
A solid 6'11 fellow, maybe close to 7'0 at his full peak. At his death honestly, he lost a lot of height. Maybe 6'9.75" when he died.
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