How tall is LeBron James

LeBron James Height

6ft 7 ¼ (201.3 cm)

American basketball player, who has played for The Cleveland Cavaliers, Miami Heat and LA Lakers. His pre-draft measurements were 6ft 8 in sneakers and 6ft 7.25 without them, weight of 245 pounds.

How tall is Lebron James
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Average Guess (211 Votes)
6ft 7.45in (201.8cm)
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 16/Sep/19
@Canson Bronny does look 5'11 and although he is barely 14 now. But i don't think he had a chance to reach 6'7 like his dad, i'm predicting 6'1-6'2 min to highest 6'6 a jackpot for him. Bronny bone structure look to be smaller and feature look more his mom maybe ending up several inches shorter than a 6'7 dad which i have seem this case as my 6'0 friend dad is 6'5 and mom 5'4 and he gets more facial feature and smaller bone from mom and height still consider in luck to reach 6'0 not 5'10 or below but his two brother was extreme lucky ones to reach 6'5 and 6'7.
Riccardo 5'7" said on 13/Sep/19
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Canson said on 8/Sep/19
@Questioner: he looks taller with Shareef. But They are sitting more so than standing
Questioner said on 6/Sep/19
@canson he actually is holding up super well with shareef... Click Here
Canson said on 5/Sep/19
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 3/Sep/19
Feel like Lebron youngest son will edge him out when he grew up.

@Junior: I know Rob said 5’11” but how tall do you think Bronny is? That’s his oldest son of course
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 3/Sep/19
Feel like Lebron youngest son will edge him out when he grew up.
Alex Nassar 5'10" said on 29/Aug/19
Damn, I know a woman as tall as him (201 cm exactly), that's kinda freaky.
Josue said on 23/Aug/19
@Rob how tall do you think his oldest son Bronny is? He's listed as 6'2" on his ig page but appears 5'11" next to his dad.
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6ft 2 in big sneakers
Canson said on 19/Aug/19
I see around a 2.25” 5.5-6cm difference between Kobe and Lebron. Lebron 200.6 Kobe 194.9 6’7 vs 6’4.75
Canson said on 11/Aug/19
6’7” flat is best case
Canson said on 11/Aug/19
6’7” flat
Nik Ashton said on 5/Aug/19
@ J-Dog - I like your name! 🐩!

It’s great to give LeBron James his 1600th comment! There have been 209 votes and the average guess is 6’7.45”!
Canson said on 4/Aug/19
@Viper: I doubt Walton was actually that tall. A 6’7.75 guy listed at 6’8?
Canson said on 4/Aug/19
@Viper: remember that Dwayne Wade got drafted the same year as Walton. Wade doesn’t look 6’3.75 either. But Keith Bogans does look at least a solid 6’4 in person and Melo 6’6” Hinrich is 6’2 and change at least. TJ Ford shows 5’11 but is 5’10
viper said on 2/Aug/19
Walton's 6-7.75 is totally wrong then, unless he's somehow shrunk which I doubt
Canson said on 1/Aug/19
@Junior: the more I see, Lebron looks the full 6’7” more often than not. Walton May be 6’6.5 or .75 because Magic could look taller at times. I still think Melo could be anywhere from 6’6-6’6.25. He may measure the listing but he’s no higher. I’ve seen 6’6” guys that are 2” taller then some that are just 1.5” and I thought the middle of that for him. Maybe more 4.5-5cm. Meaning he could be 6’6 1/8 perhaps. He looked about the same as my 6’6” friend next to me but he also used to measure 6’6 1/8” at a low
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 30/Jul/19
@Canson Click Here Click Here Luke Walton could be as low as 6'6 1/2 for Carmelo 6'6 on the lowest end. I still feel Lebron can be 1cm taller than Luke. 6'6 7/8(200.4) is the end low for King James.
Canson said on 18/Jul/19
@Junior: I can buy 2cm between Lebron and Melo but not 1”. I could give Melo 6’6.25 maximum and Lebron may be 6’7” flat. Melo is not shorter than 6’6 tho
Canson said on 15/Jul/19
@Junior: 6’7” flat I can buy for him at a low. Luke also looks shorter than Magic in some pics but the same in others. That would surprise me if Luke is that short because he looked taller than Carmelo Anthony on the court. Melo is 6’6
Canson said on 15/Jul/19
@Junior: 6’7” flat I can buy for him at a low. Luke also looks shorter than Magic in some pics but the same in others
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 15/Jul/19
Click Here There is a picture in this link shows Lebron right next to Carmelo, footwear is visible. Listing taken care correctly whether is early measurement or a lowest they're one full inch in difference.
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 11/Jul/19
@Canson They cannot be the same height. It's too obvious Luke look like a weak 6'7 guy can look 1.75-2" on Kobe thats the best when they had proper comparison. Lebron had loose posture most of time you should have notice by now, sometimes i even could buy this 6'7 1/4 as his lowest but looking more at him i can see a proper 6'7.
Canson said on 9/Jul/19
@Junior: I saw pics of Julius Randle who is 6’7” and change and he looked taller than luke. It’s possible Luke is like 6’6.75 really esp seeing him with Kobe
Canson said on 2/Jul/19
@Junior: they could very well be the same height.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 1/Jul/19
@Canson True the picture of Lebron footwear looks much thicker than 1/8 more like 3/8th inch more than Luke, atually look like a 4cm basketball sneakers an Lebron eye level look an easy half inch higher so maybe Luke is closer to 6'6 7/8 and i agree there is more 1.75-2" between Kobe and Luke and solid 2-2.25" between Lebron and Kobe. On the court Lebron often had a bit more footwear than Kobe since the past they played. So i won't be surprise Luke and Lebron barefoot is only 1/8 inch difference but Lebron got to be the taller one.
Canson said on 27/Jun/19
@Junior: I will say this. Kobe looks less than 2” shorter than Luke Walton at times. To tell you the truth, I see more between he and Lebron at times than I do between he and Walton
Canson said on 26/Jun/19
@Junior: in this pic he looks 4” taller than Buddy Hield. Hield measured 6’4.5 in shoes (6’3.25) earlier on on 2 occasions so the 6’3.75 is a morning height. But Luke looks at least 6’7 with him
Canson said on 26/Jun/19
@Junior: could be the camera angle and the fact that Lebron has more footwear on than Luke. Lebron has at least 1cm more footwear there. But I’ve seen pics where Luke can look the height you said with Magic. To be fair, Luke looks at least an inch taller than Carmelo Anthony in pics so I think he’s the same size as Lebron at worst if not a hair or two taller
Mm said on 26/Jun/19
DOLLY D said on 6/Jun/19

He’s 6’7.25 barefoot and about 250lbs. No way is he close to 275lbs!
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 25/Jun/19
Click Here Luke Walton best comparison standing next to Lebron, Luke use to have a draftexpress measurement say to be 6'7.75" without shoes that is quite bs, he is more like 6'7 and 6'6.75" a low and in this picture can see 6'7 Lebron had like 1/8 more heels and 1/8 less relax posture balance out that he is 6'7 1/8 here and look close enough 1cm on Luke Walton in fact barefooted is 1/4 inch max between them.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 7/Jun/19
6'8.5" for Lebron is nonsense. He was not even that tall with normal shoes on and comfirmation less than 117kg let alone 120-125kg.
Canson said on 7/Jun/19
There’s no evidence that he has grown since his pre draft. If anything he looks 6’7” still. The “he has grown since he was measured” is fanboy talk
DOLLY D said on 6/Jun/19
Canson said on 5/Jun/19
@Junior: yea Lebron is about 6’7” but no higher. Maybe a fraction less

@Viper: 2” is easy because if it’s a morning height in shoes. Look at Tyreke Evans when he measured 6’5.25 in shoes. He may really only edge you by half inch or 2cm 6’3.25 or .5 since that was a confirmed morning height for him same year as Steph Curry and Blake Griffin but Evans is listed 6’6”
Canson said on 4/Jun/19
@Viper: Carlos Boozer and Kevin Love were about that. Boozer is said to only be 6’7” and Love actually is 6’7” according to those who’ve met him
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 4/Jun/19
@Stephen Ronald I wonder how did you get your 6'0 measurement from? Because the truth pack with 6'7 and nothing for King James. Your 6'6 friend is not even 6'4, sorry but not to disappoint you but telling the truth i had a real 6'4 5/8 (194.6) friend met Lebron at a bar at night and he mention Lebron had a big 2" on him when he walk up have a chat with him and that is probably 2.25" between them he say which is leading to be tiny bit weak 6'7 or 6'7 if my friend atually had a 1/8 more footwear we don't know it so lets just call off 6'10 tricks. Lebron is 6'7 and always this mark.
viper said on 3/Jun/19
Players routinely measure 2 inches in their shoes
Canson said on 30/May/19
@Ellis: Simmons May be 6’8 and some change vs 6’8 flat
Canson said on 28/May/19
1.4 is within realm as most add 1.25 the Air Maxes May be just 1/8” thicker at 1.375
Ellis 6'8 said on 28/May/19
@Canson: Oh wow okay, thanks for letting me know, that clears that up. I knew that 6'10.5 seemed way to high, and a 6'6 guy would not feel that small. And yeah my mistake he is 6'7 around the afternoon, he measures 6'7.25 closer to the morning then. I'm better at making decisions if I'm provided a picture, for example Ben Simmons is not much taller than him. Simmons had two measurements that I know of. I believe, one was 6'9(I think) and the other was 6'8.25(listed at the combine). I believe 6'8.25 is very close to Simmons and his low, I would peg Simmons at 6'8 for a low. As for LeBron, 6'6.75.
NBAfan said on 27/May/19
Lol basketball shoes in the 1.4 inch range is funny that one could even think about saying this
Canson said on 27/May/19
“The great players try and claim their night heights”.

I have never seen or heard of this. Most players or people don’t even know it varies from morning to evening. Lebron has claimed 6’9 270 before as well as 6’8 and 6’7”. At the end of the day your height in shoes or roster is not your true height. It’s your barefoot height

@Ellis: Stephen Ronald didn’t meet Lebron or he doesn’t gauge height well or is off on his. He also said Isaiah Thomas is 6’0” when he himself said he’s only 5’8”. The thing of it is Rob once deleted a poster’s comments on basketball players because they “were not serious estimates or comments” because they were egregiously low but these comments here are beyond reasonable belief in the other direction and deserve the same treatment
Canson said on 27/May/19
@Ellis: I think an afternoon is no higher than 6’7”
Onabill Choudhury said on 25/May/19
I’m surprised LeBron doesn’t claim 6 ft 9, LeBron basketball shoes look like to be in the 1.4 Inch range which means he would be 6 ft 8 5/8 in shoes and then he could round up to say he’s 6 ft 9 but then again it seems like the great players try and claim their night heights; I wouldn’t be surprised if LeBron says he’s actually 6 ft 6 3/4 without shoes (I believe LeBron is 6 ft 7 1/4 without shoes) towards the end of his career
Ellis 6'8 said on 23/May/19
@Stephen: That is really interesting, I feel like he would call himself 6'9, according to the current NBA standards he should be listed at 6'9, but 6'10.5 with shoes jeez lol. I understand how people who are a bit taller than a person, may feel a lot taller than what they actually are from the said persons perspective, I have had experiences with this. For example, I met a guy my height, I couldn't believe I was as tall as him until we took a picture together. I know this guy who claims 6'10, and he felt a little taller than the guy I met my height, by like a half inch, but an inch to play it safe. He must be claiming a shoe height, but he is really not that much taller than I am. Anyways, LeBron should stay as listed, he is indeed 6'7.25 in the afternoon.
Stephen Ronald said on 21/May/19
Hey Rob, A big NBA fan here. In my experience, I met King Lebron about 5 months ago at a Lakers game. I am 6 ft 0 and went to the game with a 6 ft 6 friend. We met Lebron at the end of the game and took a selfie with him. Lebron was about 10 inches taller than me and 4 inches taller than my friend. He had to be 6 ft 10. I asked him how tall he was and he said 6 9 without shoes and 6 10.5 in shoes. So my guess is 6 ft 9. Also, my friend who is 6 11 met him and he was right about the same height with shoes. So Rob any possibility of 6 9? Nice website btw...
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That figure of 6ft 9 seems hard to believe, though I can see how he is guessed 6ft 8 range or 8.5 by people.
Canson said on 9/May/19
@Jdubbz: of course he can claim what he wants but fact of the matter is that he’s 6’7” flat at a low so he wouldn’t be 6’8” for that long in the day
Jdubbz said on 8/May/19

As far as Ellis claiming 6'8, I don't really see an issue with it lol. I'm on the same page as you in terms of claiming a low, but not everyone thinks that way. And at Ellis' height, people probably can't tell the difference anyway.
Canson said on 4/May/19
@Ellis: if that’s over half inch between them Lebron could easily see close to 6’7”. Melo surely isn’t less than 6’6”. Id Argue above the mark before I argued under it
Canson said on 4/May/19
@Ellis: lol if you’re 6’7 at a low why do you list yourself 6’8” below? As for Lebron I don’t rule out 6’6.5-.75 as that was my initial estimate. However, I wouldn’t go any higher than 6’7 flat at a low perhaps. For Melo I think he’s a decent 6’7” out of bed and 198-199 at a low. The listing Rob gave him is pretty good overall from what Ive seen. If he dips under that mark it’s not by a lot. For Lebron though he was likely an afternoon measurement as all the other guys in that class that I’ve seen up close look near their combine heights except Ford. I have only seen Wade on the court but judging by how he looks in pics and against guys like Keith Bogans who is a good 6’4 and taller than Wade, and others who have met him Wade barely hits 6’3”. My guess is 6’2.5-6’3 range. Bradley Beal is taller than Wade too.
Ellis 6'8 said on 2/May/19
@Canson: 6'7 at a low, I disagree, I think Lebron is around 6'6.5-75 at a low. For the combine, yeah I doubt he wore footwear 3/4'', they probably inflated his height, during the time that was happening he was probably just under 6'7 but they rounded up. He has got roughly a bit above half an inch on Carmelo.
Lebron is probably 6'7.75 when he gets up, fastly dips to 6'7.5 within an hour, then he drops even more to 6'7.25, floats around 6'7.25 for around 2 hours, then he dips to 6'7, later in the day he goes lower to about 6'6.75.
@Canson: How tall do you think Carmelo is when he gets up?
Canson said on 29/Apr/19
He must not have worn air max at the combine if he only got 3/4”. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was not measured and they simply assessed an inch above Melo since he is slightly taller. Lebron once said that he was never measured after surpassing 6’6”. But if they did he’s pretty close since he would measure around 6’7” at a low maybe slightly less
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 14/Apr/19
Canson said on 13/Apr/19
When you assume you make a you know what out of you. Lebron doesn’t look any taller than he was when he came in the league despite how much people want him to have grown
Cole Lewis said on 12/Apr/19
He was measured at 6'7.25" without shoes when he was 18. It's safe to assume that he grew to at least 6'8" since then.
Canson said on 30/Mar/19
So if Bol measured that then he may just be 7’1” flat at a low or less
Ellis said on 29/Mar/19
@Viper: True, rounding is very common, yeah he seems like a 7'1.25 type of guy, 7'1.5 if he stretches, he and Kristaps Porzingis have a very similar frame. I was actually talking about Boban and Kristaps, they are both listed at 7'3, but while Boban is a legit 7'3 in shoes, Kristaps is likely a guy who is rounded up to 7'3, in that case Boban can be listed at 7'4. Bol Bol is a very similar scenario if they choose to list him at 7'3.
@Canson: Yeah, I had the opportunity to measure myself recently, and was out and about doing a lot of things, and late at night I took my height and I was 6'7, I never leave that mark or dip into the 6'6 range.
Canson said on 28/Mar/19
@Ellis: you’re a legit 6’7
viper said on 27/Mar/19
The 7-1.5 could also be rounded up from 7-1 3/8
Ellis said on 25/Mar/19
@Viper: Did some research, on his it says he has been measured at 7'1.5 w/o shoes and 7'2 with shoes, and on an other occasion they got him at 7'2 barefoot and 7'3 with shoes. I would still put him at 7'1.5 as a basketball measurement, 'a real measurement' would be like 7'1. For example, I recently took my height and my dirt low is 6'7, when I get up I'm probably over 6'8 considering my height shrinkage, however my height was recorded a little after an hour and I was 6'7 3/4s which would be considered a basketball height.
viper said on 24/Mar/19
Im not sure.

I wonder how tall Bol Bol is. I really doubt the 7-2 measurement. What are the odds he measured his listed height.

Other articles say hes 7-0.
Canson said on 19/Mar/19
@Viper: how tall would you say the Warriors GM Bob Myers is? He’s listed 6’7” and was a former UCLA Bruin. My guess is probably 6’5 maybe 6’5.5. Looks roughly same size as draymond green maybe 1/2” taller and looks 2 maybe 2.5” on Adam Silver. Also looks 1 or 1.5” shorter than Bell who I have at 6’6.5. Unfortunately not a lot of pics with Green and Bell but Bell may be 1.5” taller In one
Canson said on 17/Mar/19
I doubt Kawhi is 6’6” barefoot. Maybe 6’5.5 but he can look 6’5 at times. The 6’6 is early morning
niguuuu said on 15/Mar/19
Lebron looking tall af tonight with barefoot 6 6 kawhi
Canson said on 13/Mar/19
@Viper: I’ve never seen 6’10” for Robert Carter. Only 6’9” and 6’8” when he was at GA tech I believe. But he came out at 6’6.75 meaning he’s not more than about Carmelo’s size more than likely. If anything maybe he has 1/4” on him or he could even be 6’6” at a low if that was rounded up. He was shorter than Layman who is probably something like 6’7.5 at a low since he measured 6’8”
Canson said on 13/Mar/19
I don’t know why I thought Bell had measured taller than 6’7” flat. I thought he was something like 6’7.75 or 6’7.5 before I saw that
Canson said on 12/Mar/19
@Viper: Bell measured just 6’7” so that means what I’ve been saying about Draymond is probably accurate that he’s not more than 6’5”. I don’t even know if that is Bell’s low either if he measures that at the combine. He’s saying he’s 6’8” which may be his shoe height. I would doubt Draymond is only 6’4” tho
viper said on 11/Mar/19
6-7 Jordan Bell says he feels like he towers over Draymond.

When I seen him in person — I’m thinking going in, he’s like my height,” Bell said. “I say I’m 6-9, 6-10, but I’m really like 6-8. So I’m thinking he’s around the same height. Then I see him and I’m like towering over this dude. But it made me gain so much more respect because, I’m like, he’s smaller than what I thought, he’s not the biggest, buffest guy out there, but he’s the Defensive Player of the Year.”
Canson said on 11/Mar/19
@Viper: I’ll say 9” after seeing it again. That’s just from the looks of it. Other variables may exist
Canson said on 11/Mar/19
@Viper: it’s at least 8” perhaps closer to 9. The biggest factor is Terrell’s hair.
viper said on 10/Mar/19
Canson how may inches of height do you see in this pic with Ivan Bender and Andrew Terrell

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viper said on 10/Mar/19
So the 6-9 for Ben Simmons was a mismeasurement.
viper said on 10/Mar/19
Watching an old Maryland game, and John Salley looks a good 4 inches taller standing next to 6-6 Derrick Lewis at the line.
viper said on 9/Mar/19
Canson, Carter was listed at 6-10 in articles
Ellis said on 9/Mar/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8: I don't think I ever said I measured 6'7.25 at night, and if I did that is a lie because I was never that tall at night, the most I've ever said is 6'6.75 at night I believe, but my low right now is 6'7 at night I believe, and that would mean that I would in the morning be a bit above 6'8. When I turned 18 I was a bit more than half an inch shorter compared to now, I was just under 6'6.25 at night. I need to measure my height though when I get the chance.
Canson said on 9/Mar/19
He doesn’t look any taller than when he was drafted. Even then and in high school he was barely taller than Carmelo and at times looked the same height as him

@Christian: he said he was 6’6.25 at a low then 6’6.5 then 6’6.75 I believe. I’ve never seen Ellis say 6’7.25 at a low.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Mar/19
I'd say more 6'4.5". That looks like a 6.5" difference rather than just 6".

If you're 6'8" in the morning, then chances are that you're 6'7"-6'7.25" at your low. Didn't you say you were 6'7.25" at your low before? If so, that means you haven't grown.
Canson said on 8/Mar/19
@Viper: you may be right. They’re maybe 1/2” apart now that I see it. I don’t think Zion is 6’5.5 like Rob lists him. 6’5” is what he measured before and looks. There is no record to 6’5.5 measurement
Canson said on 8/Mar/19
@Viper: Carter was never listed 6’10”. He was listed 6’9”. As for Barrett he does show 6’6.5 here barefoot. Maybe it’s a misprint but he does look taller than Zion. Scroll to feb 24 2017 in the link. I’ve also seen that he has grown. Not sure if he has but he looks taller than Zion

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viper said on 8/Mar/19
Lebron looking 6-4 with 5-10 Antonio Brown. Click Here
guy36 said on 8/Mar/19
He may have grown since the summer after his senior year of high school. He never played in college. He was measured straight out of high school and basketball players often grow at least an inch during college.
viper said on 7/Mar/19
Shaquille Cleare admitted to only being 6-6 in an article, yet he was listed at 6-9 and described as high as 6-10.
viper said on 7/Mar/19
UCLA has a 6-10 listed guy who is lucky to be even 6-7. He measured 6-6. Jalen Hill.

If he's really only 6-6 that's beyond nuts.
viper said on 7/Mar/19
2 players at the combine were actually listed at their correct heights last year.

Keita Bates Diop and Mohamed Bamba
Ellis said on 7/Mar/19
@Christian 6'5 3/8: I'm still growing, that is why my claims always fluctuate, I'm assuming that by now 6'8 is my morning height, I look taller in the mirror. I'll see soon.
@Viper: Ben Simmons measured at 6'8.25, and is listed at 6'10
viper said on 7/Mar/19
Canson you are thinking of Reddish.

Barrett is 6-5, measured 6-6.5 in shoes
viper said on 6/Mar/19
Maryland's Robert Carter was described as tall as 6-10, yet he only measured

I'd be shocked If it's any lower than that because he looked 6-7 minimum on the court.
viper said on 6/Mar/19
I see Ben Simmons measured 6-8, not 6-9.
viper said on 6/Mar/19
6-8 Austin Wiley was listed at 6-11 in college.

Never seen that before.
viper said on 6/Mar/19
-Tremendous physical profile for his age. Developed, yet still has quite a bit of room to fill out. Wide shoulders. Long arms with a 6' 10 wingspan. Measured 6' 6.5 in shoes.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Mar/19
But isn't 6'8" your morning height, instead of night? I'm a bit confused because your claims constantly fluctuate.
Canson said on 5/Mar/19
@Ellis: you shouldn’t assume. Measure. But either way for this site purposes if you wake up 6’8” flat you still aren’t 6’8” you’re 6’7” at a low
Ellis said on 4/Mar/19
@Canson: Yea but that was a measurement from roughly 2-3 months ago, I'm making assumptions that I'm 6'8 now possibly even taller I look taller.
Canson said on 3/Mar/19
@Ellis: but if you even said you’re 6’7.75 and 6’6.75 respectively then you aren’t 6’8. I guess you can claim how you please but embellishing on a height related site is a bit disingenuous
Canson said on 3/Mar/19
I remember you saying 6’7.75 out of bed Ellis
Ellis said on 1/Mar/19
@Canson: I'm 6'8 when I get up, whatever man it's close enough lol.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 1/Mar/19
Lebron muscle mass was solid look to hold around 65lbs on his body without much muscle he would look slim at 210-220. His current weight i doubt it 260 maybe lesser. Heaviest he look 265 max to me.
Canson said on 1/Mar/19
@Ellis: you’re not 6’8 you said you were 6’7” before
Ellis said on 28/Feb/19
Zion got a page recently, possibly 6'5.5 for a basketball height. For a basketball height I agree, but for an afternoon height he is 6'5.
@viper: that is pretty hilarious, Zion is nowhere near 6'8. I'm 6'8, the difference is ducking for doorframes lol.
Canson said on 28/Feb/19
@Viper: he was probably not as big weight wise but I do see pics with Terry porter who I believe was max 6’2 maybe even weak 6’2 along with Clyde Drexler who is 6’5 peak
viper said on 28/Feb/19
Julius Peppers was listed at 270 his last year of basketball.

He weighed in at 283 pounds at the combine
viper said on 27/Feb/19
For whatever reason he physically looked taller in college than the NBA
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 27/Feb/19
Zion look to be 275 maybe 280 and Lebron 265 max.
Canson said on 25/Feb/19
@Viper: only college player is Tako lol. And because he’s a Manute Bol or Bradley sized guy. But Zion will get a page I’m sure. Looking at him he doesn’t look over 6’5” barefoot like you said.
VelikiSrbin said on 24/Feb/19
I actually think he's more a strong 6'7 than a strong 6'6 and there's plenty photo evidence of this.
viper said on 24/Feb/19
The other night an announcer said Zion was 6-8, lol.

I couldn't believe it.

He needs a page here.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 23/Feb/19
260-265 is the max for Lebron IMO.
Canson said on 23/Feb/19
@Christian: 285 does look high. I mentioned 280 below but 272 could even be in shoes and clothes. Likely he’s 265-270 meaning Zion
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 21/Feb/19
Agreed. As big as he is, 285 is BS.
Canson said on 20/Feb/19
@Viper: Zion looks heavier than Lebron though. I could buy 255 perhaps 260 for his pinnacle not 276-280 though. Zion could actually be 280 however but he’s 2” shorter than Lebron
Canson said on 20/Feb/19
@Viper: I wonder what he would measure today. We don’t know what time of the day that one took place. Some of the guys now skip the Combine. But for him to be a legit 6’5” he would likely have to a listed measurement of 6’5.5 at the pre draft if we are talking morning height. I’m not sure if he would get that but he possibly could. RJ Barrett is said to have a 6’6.5 but not sure about him. He does look around an inch taller than Zion however so if Zion is 6’5 maybe he’s 6’6 barefoot or somewhere around it
viper said on 19/Feb/19
Zion Williamson's 285 is more believable.

He did measure 6-5 and weighed 272.
viper said on 19/Feb/19
It's hard to believe but he did weigh 245 supposedly out of high school when he didn't look it.

Absolute most I'd guess is 265.
Canson said on 18/Feb/19
@Height: it’s possible but it’s also possible they’re the same
Canson said on 17/Feb/19
I find that hard to believe that he weighs that much
Height said on 17/Feb/19
Shorter than Pippen
RP said on 15/Feb/19
Just reported that LeBron James has been playing @ 276-280 lbs !!! The report started out talking about how LeBron James has always played at approximately 7 to 10 pounds above his official listed playing weight pretty much his entire career. It starts off mentioning how the Los Angeles Lakers roster officially you list LeBron at 250 pounds ... but he had been playing between 262 to 265 pounds for the majority of the season . Whatever after hurting his growing the injury really interfered with his conditioning program and during the course of missing over a month with the growing injury they said that LeBron has put on approximately 15 pounds and over the past two weeks has been playing between 276 pounds to 280. Whatever after hurting his groin the injury really interfered with his conditioning program and during the course of missing over a month with the growing injury they said that LeBron has put on approximately 15 pounds and over the past two weeks has been playing between 276 pounds to 280 pounds !! The heaviest of his entire NBA career. LeBron James said that his previous all-time true playing weight was 270 pounds to 272 pounds. That was his final season at Cleveland during his first run in Cleveland before going to Miami. He reported to his first training camp with Miami at 267 pounds ... however Pat Raleigh suggested that LeBron play under 260 pounds ... LeBron admitted that he took Riley‘s advice and played the majority of his NBA career in Miami between 250 pounds and 260 pounds .. typically he said he was around 252 pounds to 257 pounds. LeBron said he hopes to be under 265 pounds within the next two weeks. 6’7” & 280 lbs is freaking huge!
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 30/Jan/19
Alot of average guess were 2cm higher than listed height, while alot of listed height were 1/4 too high but there were still small amount of legit listing and small amount of under listed listing here.
Canson said on 27/Jan/19
@Mickie: the 6’8” guesses are a bit lazy. That’s to keep from downgrading others rather than taking the time to see how tall he actually looks and is. He never looks 6’8” on the court. I can see Kyle Kuzma taller at times.
Canson said on 26/Jan/19
@Mickie: I’ve never completely ruled 6’6.75 out since he only had Melo by 1/2-1”. 1” is kind of pushing it to be honest but possible. 2cm looks more accurate. I also don’t have Lebron over a full 6’7”. Melo is minimum 6’6” in person. 6’6.25 is even possible for him
Mickie said on 25/Jan/19
I wouldn't be surprised if Lebron drops down to 6'6.75". I don't have a big problem with giving him his combine listing but the fact that people are guessing over that (given the average guess) is kind of funny to me.
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 19/Jan/19
@Canson True as the lowest 6'6.75" for Lebron still happening sometimes same as 6'6 for Carmelo. Meanwhile i'm hoping Rob put up Dwight Howard and Chris Bosh listing here. They are worth an add than many others baller Rob have already listed here. This two players have alot of good comparison photo with Lebron James, Kobe and Dywane Wade in the past.
Spencer said on 13/Jan/19
Canson said on 9/Jan/19
@Junior: I’m gonna try to go next season when the Lakers come East to play the Washington Wizards. Unfortunately they played three weeks ago before he got hurt and only play in Washington once a year
Canson said on 9/Jan/19
@Junior: I’m gonna try to go next season when the Lakers come East to play the Washington Wizards. Unfortunately they played three weeks ago and only play in Washington once a year
Canson said on 9/Jan/19
@Junior: all of those ranges you gave for Melo are very realistic. Assuming we were both at lows I could give 6’6-6’6.25 no less than 6’6” and no higher that 6’6.25. As for a sub 6’6” it would be very difficult to see it. But I also doubt he’s more than 6’6.25 either. Lebron can look 2cm taller and half inch and even a full inch. I could see the full 6’7” but not any higher. I could see 6’6.5 possibly but if he’s under 6’7 it’s probably more like 6’6.75 than 6’6.5
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 9/Jan/19
@Canson although my friend say a few times that Lebron was weak 6'7 but from my perception looking at him hes more like a person with loose posture dropping some height can look 6'6-6'6 3/4 but standing well look close to 6'7 to me and could look a solid 2cm taller than Carmelo. Carmelo maybe in the 6'6 1/8 zone than big 6'6 1/4 or flat 6'6.
Canson said on 6/Jan/19
@Ellis: I think Lebron would be at least 202 out of bed and then dip to probably 200 range at a low. He isn’t that far below 6’7”
Canson said on 6/Jan/19
@Michael Jordan: agreed. I do believe Beal is 6’3.5 now and that’s likely a low for him or very near it. I have Wade at 6’2.75 and have for a while
MichaelJordan said on 5/Jan/19
Since Dwayne wade is 6’3 that makes Beal 6’3.5 right Canson here’s a video of them exchanging jerseys

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Ellis 6'7.25 said on 1/Jan/19
Night height is 6'6.25-6'6.5, Afternoon height is 6'6.75, and Morning height is 6'7.25(Carmelo's morning height is actually 6'6 7/8 and not 6'7). Happy New Year btw, I'm typing this on January 1st.
Canson-6'4 3/8 said on 25/Dec/18
I want to see him in Space Jam against other players to see how they all compare heightwise
Canson said on 17/Dec/18
@Junior: you mentioned once that a friend of yours met him and thought weak 6’7”
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 16/Dec/18
To be honest i still think Lebron is 6'7 although some believe the listing was his low and many argue 6'6 3/4.
Canson said on 16/Dec/18
@Jdubbz: that’s not far fetched (although I don’t believe he is either). 199 flat is too low. But if he were something like 6’6.5 I wouldn’t be totally surprised. He’s barely taller than Melo. I think a full 6’7” or 6’6.75 is a worst case however. No disrespect to Tall Greek Boy but he has lowballed several other players such as Kevin Durant. No different than someone upgrading players but when you do either it is a domino effect
Canson said on 16/Dec/18
@Jdubbz: that’s not far fetched (although I don’t believe he is either). But if he were something like 6’6.5 I wouldn’t be totally surprised. He’s barely taller than Melo. I think a full 6’7” or 6’6.75 is a worst case however. No disrespect to Tall Greek Boy but he has lowballed several other players such as Kevin Durant. No different than someone upgrading players but when you do either it is a domino effect
Jdubbz said on 15/Dec/18
Lol @ thinking Lebron is under 2 meters.
Tallgreekboy said on 12/Dec/18
Lebron is 199cm flat. Pictures with various celebs prove it.
Canson said on 9/Dec/18
@Jackson: very well said
Jackson said on 8/Dec/18
You could make the argument people were tougher in the 80’s and 90’s era. But I can easily make the argument that nobody had as much fire power as a team with Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Kevin Durant, DeMarcus Cousins. Lebron has had to take on teams like the warriors who are perfectly fitting into this new 3 point driven league. I’d argue Lebron May have had a better time in a tougher league where he could drive the ball more and not have to constantly keep up with opponents who live and die by shooting Three’s.
Canson said on 7/Dec/18
@Jackson: I have him right at 6’7 barefoot maximum. I thought maybe even 6’6.75 is possible. He has times when he looks half inch taller than Carmelo then others 2cm then around 2” on 6’4.75 Kobe Bryant
Canson said on 7/Dec/18
@Jackson: not so sure about that. A lot don’t have them as top five favorite but they may say top 5 of all time perhaps. Even then it depends on what era you grew up in. I grew up in 80s and 90s. I have always had a ton of respect for Lebron and liked him but just felt the era is watered down. He’s a beast though as a player. But could he have done what he’s doing today when the rules weren’t as favorable?
Canson said on 6/Dec/18
@Christian: I think Ray is the best 3 point shooter of all time! I remember the later Seattle teams with Rashard lewis and him (right before KD came and before they became OKC) along with the early 2000s Bucks teams with Big Dog Cassell and Ray!
Jackeon said on 6/Dec/18
Lebron is in most people’s top 5 that I’ve seen. He is the most durable and well conditioned superstar maybe ever. He’s showing no signs of slowing down. It’s truly impressive. If he stays on this pace he will end his career number 1 in scoring all time. He’s about to pass Jordan in scoring. I don’t think he can ever pass Jordan in rings. But if rings are what makes people the greates than Bill Russel is the greatest. Truly a fantastic player and I’ve loved being able to watch him play. He has hardly any weaknesses maybe free throws I suppose. I’ve got him at 6’7.25” barefoot 255 lbs. 6’8.5” in shoes. I’ve worn his Lebron shoes and they have air bubble that can make you a solid inch and half taller.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Dec/18

I also love Barkley and Carter too, along with Ray Allen. Ray's the best 3 point shooter of all time IMO, while I believe Barkley's the best PF especially for his height.
Canson said on 4/Dec/18
@Christian: Lebron may be in my top 10 now at least. Not before tho
Canson said on 4/Dec/18
@Christian: Lebron may be in my top 10
Canson said on 4/Dec/18
@Christian: mine would go;

Dr J
Vince Carter

I liked Michael cooper a lot too as well as Barkley
Vince Carter
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 4/Dec/18

Who's your second favorite player of all time after Jordan? Mine would be a tie between Kobe and Wade. Typically I'm not the biggest fan of 7 footers, although I'm not taking anything away from those guys.
Canson said on 28/Nov/18
@Kobe or Jordan: I believe Beal is 191-192 today. Max he may be 192 and a bit. He’s grown since drafted as his pre draft was 6’3.25 (early morning) meaning he probably was only 6’2 range at that stage. Today, though he looks that in person according to people who’ve met him. One is 6’3” himself and believes Beal may have slightly edged him when he saw him last. Same guy also said Wall is probably a little under 6’2”. Not sure where the 6’2.75 came from but I can Believe Beal’s pre draft is that looks proper for a morning height prior to his growth spurt.

My guesses today:

Beal 6’3.25- 6’3 5/8 (somewhere in the middle probably) afternoon height
Kobeorjordan said on 28/Nov/18
Click Here Yeah Bradley Beal is decently 6’3.5 completely dwarfed Wall he grew for sure
Canson said on 27/Nov/18
@Christian: Lebron is a once in a generation talent. His size and supreme athleticism make it easier for him but his skill set and high IQ can’t be discounted.
Canson said on 27/Nov/18
@maxtreson: That’s prob 4-5cm with Clarkson and Ball. Ball looks around 6’4.5 perhaps and Clarkson 6’2.75 perhaps with a 6’7” ish Lebron James. Beal may be right where you have him. Friend of mine has met Beal and Wall Both and Beal May be slightly taller than him and he’s a solid 6’3” guy (measured him myself). Said Wall could be a bit under 6’2” next to him perhaps (6’1.5-6’2)
Maxtreson said on 26/Nov/18
@Ellis maybe Beal was only an inch taller than wall in 2016 but Injust saw a recent interview of him next to wall talking and he had close to 2 inches on him this is 2017-18 Beal grew for sure and he’s taller than Jordan Clarkson who’s only 2 cm 3 cm shorter than 6’4.5 Lonzo Ball I would say Beal for sure is 192cm 6’3.5 after his growth spurt.
James-186cm said on 24/Nov/18
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Viper: I don’t see an inch unless he has a footwear advantage in some pics like the one below. There’s another of them together where magic has the same shoes on and they look close in height although admittedly Magic may have some camera advantage. Magic could still be 6’7” today but wouldn’t rule out 6’6.75 either next to Kobe

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Canson said on 21/Nov/18
I have to agree with what Viper said. He doesn’t look over 6’5 on the court with others.
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Jordanmaxson8739: right I’ve also met Melo and it’s possible that he’s a full 6’6” as opposed to 6’6.25. May also be somewhere in the middle. But It’s possible the difference is a full inch as opposed to under it. Or could be that Melo is 6’6.25 and Lebron 6’7 or Lebron 6’6.75 and Melo 6’6. Time spent on feet and footwear could be factors in both situations

@Ellis: I wouldn’t completely close the door on Melo being 6’6.25 but it’s likely he doesn’t fall below 6’6” flat either. He just looked a legit 6’6” to me as opposed to a guy who’s 6’5.5-6’6”. A lot of guys who fall below a mark like 6’4.5-6’5 or even 6’4 1/4-3/8 my size may claim 6’5 if they measured early morning even if they were only 6’4.5 or .75 and they look very disjointed. Look an inch below their claim imho. That’s why I round down to 6’4 as opposed to up to 6’5
Canson said on 20/Nov/18
@Viper: while he’s obviously not as good as Jordan he is the best all around player of all times. The man is a beast. I can’t think of anyone that is really
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 20/Nov/18

Why isn't Lebron "in the same zip code" as Jordan? I'm not the biggest NBA fan, but Lebron's certainly one of the best in his generation.
Canson said on 20/Nov/18
@Yusuf: 6’10” is if he’s grown since. I would really say 6’9.5. Jimmy butler is max 6’5.5 (not 6’6.25). Really Butler looks 6’5” more than 6’6”
Canson said on 19/Nov/18
@Viper: Kuzma looks the same size as Julius Randle was. He was measured 6’7.75 which means likely a strong 6’7” in the afternoon. I can’t see Kuzma as high as 6’8”. He really doesn’t edge Lebron like that. If anything maybe 2cm difference but Lebron honestly can look taller at times too. I don’t think he is I’d say Kuzma is
Jackson said on 19/Nov/18
There’s nothing laughable about what I said @viper....

All around means scoring rebounding assisting.
And Lebrons ability in those 3 categories has consistently been incredible. He had 51 last night in his 16th season... and you could argue he’s more interested in getting teammates involved than scoring. If rings are all that qualifies whose the greatest than I guess Bill Russel is the goat... Lebron will pass Jordan in scoring quite soon this year. When it’s all said and done his resume qualifies him to be in the goat conversation. Many agree with me. No need to call it laughable.
Ellis said on 19/Nov/18
@Yusuf B: In the picture with Yung Gravy, considering Gravy is 6'5.5, I would say KAT is 6'9.75 taking into account there foot wear and the ground level. I would say KAT is 6'10 flat if that helps.
Canson said on 19/Nov/18
@Viper: no I was talking about Lebron when he was in the area
Canson said on 19/Nov/18
@Viper: not sure what you’re referring to with unseld. As for Kuzma 6’7.5 is easily possible. At times Lebron looks taller or just as tall. 6’8 Morning is 6’7.5 afternoon. He doesn’t look 6’8” with Magic tbh. And that’s if Magic is still full 6’7 today
Rick1 said on 19/Nov/18
Good to see Lebron finally added , spot on listing
Editor Rob
He was added to the site in 2006, 12 years ago ;)
tombod said on 19/Nov/18
bradley beal was measured 6 3.25

lebron james with 6.8 measured kuzma

i can see lebron close to 6.8 morning height he has 2 inches on 6 5. 75 measured draymond green
Ellis said on 18/Nov/18
@Canson: You're right, nowadays in the NBA LeBron looks taller because I believe it was @Christian that said listed heights will become even more higher than barefoot heights in the coming years. Many announcers call him 6'9 in the games nowadays, and yeah Melo is a solid 6'6 I would trust you on that considering you met him. I think me and LeBron are the same height actually, my night time height is now 6'6 5/8.
@Jordanmaxson8739: I would trust that Beal is 3 quarters of an inch taller than John Wall, he always looks slightly taller, but he is in that realm that he is not really much taller than wall, could be anywhere from half an inch to an inch in my opinion. My general perception is that John Wall is a little under his listed barefoot height, I think it was 6'2 and 3/4s but his lunchtime height is probably 6'2 and a quarter, so for Beal I would have him at 6'3 flat or 6'3.25.
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
@Jordanmaxson: that may be right today for Beal. He was 6’3.25 (morning) probably 6’2.5-.75 when he was drafted but was said to have grown. I live in Virginia (only 10 minutes from DC) and have heard From people who’ve met Beal that he’s 6’3” range today
Jordanmaxson8739 said on 18/Nov/18
@Rob also rob how tall do you think Bradley Beal is? Can him and John Wall get a page?
Jordanmaxson8739 said on 18/Nov/18
I dunno also because I took my son to the LeBron James camp in Paris and got to meet him and I’m 188.4 cm at night and Lebron looked 5 inches taller than me Canson I believe Lebron is just a flat 6’7 Kobe is 6’4.75 and he’s clearly 2 inches taller than him or a little over I believe the reason why lebron does not look that much taller than Melo is because he’s just a flat 6’7 and I don’t think you can really tell a huge difference between 6’6.25 and just a flat 6’7
viper said on 18/Nov/18
Kuzma looks an inch taller than 6-7 Magic to me there
viper said on 18/Nov/18
Lebron is arguably the best all around player to ever walk the planet.

Uhhh, he's not in the same zip code as Jordan. laughable
viper said on 18/Nov/18
I gotta think Ingram would weigh a hell of a lot more If he was just 6-6.
viper said on 18/Nov/18
Kuzma being under 6-8 would be a surprise, because he makes Lebron look 6-6.5-6-7.

Canson are you talking about Unseld?
Yusuf b said on 18/Nov/18
@Canson: What height would you give Karl Anthony Towns ? Would you say 6’10.5 at most like i say or would you give him a flat 6’10 ?
Jordanmaxson8739 said on 17/Nov/18
How tall do you guys think NBA all star Bradley Beal is he’s listed at 6’5 but looks 6’3.5.
Canson said on 17/Nov/18
Kuzma looks about half inch taller than Magic. A 6’8” pre draft puts him around 6’7.5 at a normal time of the day. Always a chance at a fraction less but not lower than 6’7. Ingram is taller than magic imho

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Canson said on 17/Nov/18
@Tallgreekboy: Kuzma isn’t under 6’7” probably even 6’7.5ish to be honest. Ingram looks to be at least his height or slightly taller. I’d say he could be 6’8” possibly. Kuzma isn’t shorter than Magic in pictures (perhaps taller). Lebron I could possibly see 199-200 but no less than that. If it’s 199 imho it would be something closer to 200 like 199.5-200 range
Canson said on 17/Nov/18
@Ellis: to be honest Lebron can just look 6’6.75 or 6’6.5. He only edges Melo by around half inch maybe max 2cm. The epidemic is worse because combines are held early morning for all people and sports now. I think Draymond if not solid 6’5, is no higher than 196 probably
Tallgreekboy said on 16/Nov/18
First, Lebron is 199cm and doesn’t look above it on court. Kyle Kuzma is 199cm tops. Ingram is a little bit shorter at about 198-198.5cm. Many of these guys are over listed.
Canson said on 16/Nov/18
@Viper: I was talking to someone once that said he’s 6’10” lol when he met him. Then someone I know saw him at Capital One Arena once and said he looked 6’8-6’9. The only honest sightings I know of are when my former coach told me he looked around 6’7” in person and a friend of mine that is in the business world meets people all the time when he travels said he’s around 6’7” too recently
Canson said on 16/Nov/18
@Viper: Kuzma also measured that in the morning. NBA doesn’t do 1/8” increments. He’s likely just 6’7.25-.5 at his low while Lebron is probably 6’7” give or take (maybe 6’6.75). Unseld admitted to having measured 6’5 3/4. He could’ve even been 6’5 1/2 really or even a bit less but generally looked nearer 6’6 I’d say than 6’5”

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Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Nov/18

How tall was that 7'0" center listed in his profile? I'm guessing 7'1" or 7'2"?
Ellis said on 15/Nov/18
@Canson: I always knew that LeBron was 6'7 flat without the shoes, but for Draymond I was always unsure, he was measured at 6'5.75 w/o shoes, but that to me makes no sense because I saw a picture of LeBron and Draymond in a nightclub and the difference was easily over an inch, so he might actually be much closer to 6'5 flat or just 6'5 flat, he definitely didn't look near 6'6 with a 6'7 LeBron. This epidemic is actually occurring a lot more lately, I mean look at 6'9.75 measured Enes Kanter, if you see him on the court he doesn't look 6'9.75 at all, he is more just a 6'9 guy flat.
viper said on 14/Nov/18
Yeah Unseld was really 6-6 at most. I use to believe he was 6-7 for the longest time.

Makes him more incredible.
viper said on 14/Nov/18
Kyle Kuzma is a measured 6-8 and clearly taller than Lebron on the court.

Give Rob a lot of credit for this listing. Pretty much everyone and their mother thinks he's 6-8-6-9. There is a former division 1 7-0 center I know who was adamant with me that Lebron is 6-8 and that he saw him up close. I said nope, you are wrong. He thinks Im the crazy one.
Canson said on 14/Nov/18
@Ellis: Lebron is actually about 6’7” not 6’8”. I go off their actual heights. Draymond is only about 6’5” and that’s according to Steve Kerr and Alvin Gentry. I saw the game the other night when he and Durant got heated and Cousins was in front of him. The difference looks close to what it does with Durant maybe fractionally less. I have cousins as 6’9” and Durant maybe 6’9-6’9.5
Ellis said on 12/Nov/18
@Canson: I agree, anything is really possible in the current NBA with position less basketball, look at guys like Jokic and Antetokounmpo both listed at 7 feet(6'11 is basically 7 foot) and they are usually the main playmakers, and like you said smaller guys play the power forward and center and dominate like Draymond Green, considered a great defender, also LeBron is a 4 now I believe and he is dominating, and at 6'8 I would say he is a bit undersized but nothing huge.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 12/Nov/18

You know what I meant. I only used rat poison as an illustration as to why that even in moderate amounts, it does no good for the body. Of course, I'm not saying that milk is just as bad for the body as rat poison. The Dutch are tallest in the world because they likely consume a lot of animal protein, which I'm not denying that milk and other dairy products are rich in it. Other possible factors are excellent healthcare and standard of living. Btw, Finnish and Swedish people both consume milk at a higher rate than the Dutch, yet they're shorter on average, so it goes to show you that drinking more milk doesn't mean taller height. And it's not just any type of calcium, it's calcium in dairy form that's bad for the bones. While it's true that dairy contains a lot of calcium, calcium is an alkalinic mineral, so when you get calcium from acidic sources like dairy, the calcium becomes neutralized by the acid, so it does no good for the bones, and in fact, it depletes calcium that you already have in your bones. You can read it in more detail here. Click Here Also it's no coincidence why countries that consume more milk per capita tend to have higher rates of osteoporosis and bone fractures, as you can read more about it here. Click Here
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Ellis: that actually isn’t unheard of for a 3. But it’s more ideal for a 2. Or maybe slightly above average. Remember that Caron Butler was a 3 during his career and he was 6’5” as well. That’s probably just a whisker taller than Kobe is. But I look at Draymond Green on the court as a 4 and a 5 at times with durant and klay etc (Iggy as well) and he looks what Steve Kerr says (6’5). Kerr and Gentry both said he’s that as did Carmelo Anthony. Draymond is small. Wes Unseld was very small for a center even in that era. Unseld admitted himself that he was only measured at 6’5.75 not 6’7 1/2 like he was listed. I would say a peak Unseld is a touch taller than Draymond
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Jackson: that’s Ellis’s opinion that he does but I agree with you that he doesn’t. Ellis is entitled to his opinion however. But yes he spends $1M per year just on taking care of his body
Ellis said on 11/Nov/18
@Jackson: But he does....It explains a lot, I'm not trying to have a knock on him or his greatness, and he does work very hard, did you even watch the video before blurting out what you just commented, it is blatantly obvious, hair loss, he randomly goes missing for 2 weeks when the NBA has there first steroid check up in decades, I mean come on man, it's amusing how some people can be so oblivious to what is going on, and think they know the facts.
@Christian 6'5 3/8: Is rat poison healthy for the body, I don't even know where we are going with this, read about the Netherlands and how that country became the tallest in the world based on dairy based diets, that was the main argument. I have no idea where you are going with this, I'm saying this one more time, you bring the argument that excess calcium is bad for the body, because the more milk equals the more calcium, BUT milk in regulation is not bad for the body, and you have never had evidence to support that. I just don't even know how to respond to what you said, comparing milk to rat poison. I think we both know that you know better than that.
@Canson: If he is 6'5 flat like you said, then that would make him 6'6 in shoes, which is a small small forward, and a very undersized power forward. I believe Zion plays both the 3 and 4.
Jackson said on 11/Nov/18
Lebron does not take steroids. Stop. Just stop. Lame reasoning to try and kick the guy for his hard work. He’s worked insanely hard on the court and in the weight room since like 12 years old. He has the best trainers and chefs in the world. You people always can’t belive someone could work so hard and try and shout steroids.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Nov/18

It doesn't take a rocket science to realize that in order to have a healthier body, it's best to not eat rat poison at all, not even in moderate amounts. The same principle can be applied to drinking milk for stronger bones. Dairy-based calcium is bad for the bones, so in order to have healthier stronger bones, it's best to not consume dairy at all. Now I'm not gonna dictate anyone what they should or shouldn't drink, since it's their choice, but I'd challege anyone who regurgitates this "milk for stronger bones" myth. It's unfortunate how there are so many people who believe this lie.
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Ellis: that’s not really undersized for a forward especially in college. For a 3 especially not but for a 4 maybe.
Ellis said on 10/Nov/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8: excess: an amount of something that is more than necessary, permitted, or desirable. Rather, it says that "THE MORE milk men consumed as teenagers, THE MORE bone fractures they experience as adults.", and also "another study found that adolescent girls who consumed THE MOST calcium, mostly in the form of dairy products, were at greater risk for stress fractures than those consuming less calcium."

@jackson: I think Zion is 6'5.25, he had a full year to grow after that was taken, but for a forward he is undersized. LeBron is arguably the second best player to ever play the game, I would give it to him over Kareem but he just barely beats him. Not trying to discount LeBron but he took and probably still does now take steroids, if you don't believe me watch this video: Click Here. It shocked me but it all makes sense, now I'm not saying that if he wasn't on the roids he would suck, but it really is an eye opener.
Canson said on 10/Nov/18
@Jackson: they’re not that much different tho. Lebron is “around” 6’7” himself barefoot. But you’re right they always overhype people just like they say Lebron is 6’9 at times. I guess there is a chance Zion could grow but also a chance that he’s peaked
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 9/Nov/18

Nowhere in the article said anything about "excess". Read it again carefully. Click Here It doesn't say that "the men who consumed too much milk as teenagers, experienced more bone fractures as adults.", or that "another study found that adolescent girls who consumed too much calcium, mostly in the form of dairy products, were at greater risk for stress fractures." Rather, it says that "THE MORE milk men consumed as teenagers, THE MORE bone fractures they experience as adults.", and also "another study found that adolescent girls who consumed THE MOST calcium, mostly in the form of dairy products, were at greater risk for stress fractures than those consuming less calcium." It implies that the more you drink, the worse it is for your bones. Like I said previously, if you want to have stronger bones, you shouldn't drink milk at all, not even in moderation. Consuming calcium in the form of dairy products is actually bad for your bones. I will agree with you though, that milk is dense in protein, which is a vital nutrient for body growth and development.
Bradley said on 9/Nov/18
Easy 245 pounds.
Jackson said on 9/Nov/18
Here’s article showing Zion measured 6’5” flat barefoot.. yet Duke has him at 6’7” and even is getting 6’8” listings some places. So he’s 6’5” 285lbs... he’s not going to be the next Lebron. There will never be another player Lebrons height and weight with his speed and athleticism. Lebron is arguably the best all around player to ever walk the planet.

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Ellis said on 9/Nov/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8: Like I said before, the article that you put on there clearly states that milk in excess amounts will increase chances of bone fractures and that is because of milks high calcium content, if they didn't than why would they use that quote that I put in my previous comment, which clearly proves that this is all about too much calcium. I believe that if you drink milk in moderation it will strengthen your bones, if you drink it to an extremity than a deprivation event would occur. I mean come on, also my original argument was that milk helps you grow more because it provides you part of the essential nutrients you need to reach your maximum potential height. Also milk has a lot of protein which is essential for growing tall.
Jackson said on 9/Nov/18
I’ve seen everyone trying to compare Zion Williamson to Lebron. And say Zion is 6’7 or 6’8.... such nonsense. They’re overhyping and lying about Zion’s height. Zion will end up measuring 6’5” without shoes. He’s no Lebron.
Canson said on 9/Nov/18
@Ellis: I agree with everything you said. I did watch some of Zion in high school and he looked like he’s NBA Material. However, the weight he’s carrying on him may or may not help. My first instinct was that of a potential Charles Barkley with more of a Lebron body. He’s close in height with 6’4 5/8” Barkley.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 8/Nov/18

The fact that drinking milk (in any amounts) increases the susceptibility of fractures and osteoporosis goes to show you that drinking milk doesn't help strengthen the bones at all. You're keep implying that milk is good for the bones in moderation but that's just not the case, unfortunately.
Ellis said on 8/Nov/18
@Canson: Yeah he is 6'5, i didn't watch the game but he is 6'5 maybe 6'5.25, like you said his body type weighs strongly against him, it makes him look much shorter, not that being slender would help much but Barrett is probably taller and he is listed at the same height 6'7. He has got the frame that makes his future in the NBA a mystery, guys that big may actually hurt there performance not help it. He got compared to LeBron, I think it is a complete mystery he can either be really good or be a bust like Anthony Bennett, both outcomes wouldn't surprise me to be honest. Coming out of high school I think LeBron was the best possible weight to be a force and still be fast on his feet, 240 very fast and 6'8 with shoes. Zion might have trouble if all he can do is dunk(I don't know if he has a jump shot I barely know anything about him). If he is 285 pounds, that would make him the second heaviest player in the NBA, bare in mind that the heaviest player in the league is 9 inches taller than him.
Canson said on 8/Nov/18
@Viper: I agree after seeing the game the other night
Ellis said on 8/Nov/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8:
"Similarly, another study found that adolescent girls who consumed the most calcium, mostly in the form of dairy products, were at greater risk for stress fractures than those consuming less calcium."(Your article). Your argument is beginning to become enigmatic, I don't understand what you are trying to argue, the whole reason why your source argues milk is a bad source is because it has a lot of calcium content(for the matter that we are arguing right now), basically restated by the quote above. The article tries to prove that too much milk is the culprit of bone fractures, and by doing so they insert the quote above to clearly prove that the reason why too much milk causes more bone fractures is because of it's calcium content.It also happens to be the exact same method of reasoning as to why milk is a bad choice and results in bone fractures and that is, too much calcium. Once again if you read my previous comment, I said that milk isn't some magical potion that will protect you from all bone fractures, and I don't know where this osteoporosis came in(never mentioned that).
Canson said on 8/Nov/18
@Ellis: he measured a solid 6’5” but they was near the beginning of his senior year of high school. He may still grow. I’d say 6’5” max compared to Reddish or Barrett. And It won’t surprise me if he’s a weak 6’5”. His body composition could be a factor in how he looks. Although muscular he’s still wide
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 7/Nov/18

That article said nothing about "too much calcium". It said that the more you drink, the weaker your bones become. Milk does no good for the bones even in moderation. To have stronger bones, one shouldn't drink milk at all. It says "the more milk men consumed as teenagers, the more bone fractures they experience as adults." And also "found no evidence that drinking milk can prevent bone fractures or osteoporosis."
viper said on 7/Nov/18
In New York it may have to do with just the different ethnic groups
viper said on 7/Nov/18
I was in New York recently and I was surprised how short everyone was.

I wouldn't say 5-7 average but 5-8 average I could buy. I towered over seemingly everyone at 6-3 in Manhattan.

It was surprising. All those people well, well under 6-0.
viper said on 7/Nov/18
Zion Williamson doesn't look any taller than 6-5 on the court next to others
Ellis said on 7/Nov/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8: I guess I have great genes, what I'm saying is kinda what @Myself is saying milk doesn't magically make you grow but it provides you the essential nutrients that your body needs to grow to your maximum potential height, and yes being a late bloomer allows your body to grow more into your later teen years and 20s without the penalty of growing early, what I'm saying is you already get the bonus of tacking on extra inches not in puberty, however that is not the case for early bloomers because they already had their growth spurt. Actually late bloomers are usually on par with the early bloomers those will be tall. I have been tall my entire life, up until 14 where I literally passed all the very tall kids in school for my grade. As of senior year(last year) I was the second tallest kid in my school of thousands of students, and now just recently I edged out the tallest one, and I'm hopefully still growing.
@viper: I believe Zion is listed at 6'7, but he is probably like 6'5.25 maybe 6'5.5, r.j. barrett is listed at the same height and looks taller
@Christian 6'5 3/8: That article that you sent me is only saying that if people consume too much calcium then they will put themselves at a greater risk for a bone fracture, which is what I warned in my previous comment, and yeah if you get hurt I'm not saying milk will protect you from a bone fracture completely. If you consume to much milk, then like the article says you will be more vulnerable to bone fracture in an accident. If you drink milk in regulation I believe that your bones will become a little more stronger, too much of it and your bones will become weaker staying true to the article. That is my analysis, it doesn't need to be re-digested and have potential to start a new argument, I still stand solemn towards the fact that milk helps you achieve a taller height.
Ellis said on 7/Nov/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8: Not trying to sound aggressive, but do you think I call tell the difference between 5'7 and 5'8-9 at my height? I start to notice someone if they are at least 6'2 maybe 6'1.
Canson said on 7/Nov/18
@Viper: he measured 6’5” in high school too. He may have or may still grow
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Nov/18

Btw, a 5'7" average for New York is pretty hard to believe. When I went there, it felt very similar to LA, where I live, which is around 5'8.5". But I've only been to Manhattan and not other boroughs. Maybe you just live in a short neighborhood or area of NY, I don't know.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Nov/18

Like any food, moderation is okay, but the "milk builds strong bones" thing is a lie, and many people believe in to it, and that's how the milk industry makes money. Check this article out. Click Here
viper said on 6/Nov/18
Actually Zion measured 6-5.

The 6-6 was in shoes
viper said on 6/Nov/18
Duke has a freshmen that puts Lebron to shame.

Zion Williamson 6-6 285 40 inch vertical and can dunk from the free throw line.
Myself said on 6/Nov/18
I agree more with viper...i think generally a lot of guys that are late bloomers, both in terms of pubery and height, end up being on the higher end of the average, but that's just my impression that could be completely wrong. Physically I grew not too fast but steadily throughout my teens, although my puberty progress was and is quite slow and i don't know if it's genetic or if it's because of the fact that i always was a little overweight and after like 14 yo stopped significant physical activities (until 19)...but nonetheless i reached 192.5-7 cm now at 21, growing 1 cm in the previous year. I hope to grow another half a cm!

About milk though, i don't really know how it really would stimulate growth or make you grow past your potential...i think it's just essential to get all types of nutrients, calcium and vitamine D aswell, either by milk or other dairy products taken at a decent rate.
I almost drank no milk until like 19 years old, but at the same time i used to eat all kinds of foods, aswell as cheese as one of my calcium sources...

It is also said that physical exercise should help, but i'm not too sure about that one aswell, maybe just very moderately. Because for example my 5'8 7/8 friend, usually ate only foods that he liked ignoring healthy ones often, but a the same time he used to play a lot of football, and now being fully grown he is like 1 cm shorter than his dad, while his sister is some centimeters above average for a woman, and taller than the mother.

I think physical activity just makes you go through puberty more quickly, while a complete diet is far more important, but it's just my opinion.
Canson said on 6/Nov/18
@Christian and Ellis: milk with higher protein content will help but of course you need to be active as well
Agent Orange said on 6/Nov/18
Almond milk is a great alternative for growing kids👍
Nik said on 5/Nov/18
@ Canson - I certainly did!
Ellis said on 5/Nov/18
@Christians 6'5 3/8: Too much of anything is bad, if you drink to much milk then what you just said might occur, but it you drink it in regulation it promotes bone growth and it promotes a healthy diet. I mean of course if all you consume is milk then it will bring an array of problems as would anything in excess amounts, but if you have a steady amount of milk with healthy foods then it will most definitely help you grow. Also the minerals in meat promote growth, you will find much more success in a meat diet rather than a vegetarian diet. You have to eat healthy meats obviously. I believe the negative effects will begin to show if you drink milk in excess amounts, but if you drink milk in regulation I don't see any problems. It's not like milk is a highly acidic beverage, it's actually much closer to neutral on the pH scale, still slightly acidic, that's probably why you say 'because of it's acidity', if you drink too much milk then anyone will be doing harm to themselves. In other words, if you drink too much milk the acidity levels will keep on adding up until the deprivation starts.
viper said on 5/Nov/18
Christian I had a relative who broke her leg as a teenager because she wasn't drinking enough milk.

Milk weakens?
viper said on 5/Nov/18
I didn't reach my current overall size until I reached age 30. So it all kinda makes sense really. I'm smaller boned with 6.5 inch wrists, but have always had good sized legs and broader than average shoulders.

It still amazes me how I was only 120 at 6-0. I had good looking legs at that size which is amazing.
viper said on 5/Nov/18
The 2 oldest looking guys at my high school stopped growing at 14.

One was a 5-10 200 pound running back who looked 30
viper said on 5/Nov/18
The common occurrence seems to be If you look old in high school, you have grown to your full height.

Look how old Rock looked at 15 plus how big he was. I bet Rock stopped growing at 14.

Ive looked very young my whole life plus I was really skinny out of high school at 6-0 120. I eventually grew to 6-3 195.
viper said on 5/Nov/18
I grew a bit In my early 20s.

Some have even said they grew a little at 25 but that has to be extremely rare.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 5/Nov/18

I'm not saying that milk stunts growth, but studies show that drinking milk actually helps weaken the bones and deprives calcium, because of it's acidity. I don't believe that milk affect's a child's growth though.
Ellis said on 5/Nov/18
@Christian 6'5 3/8: I would make an argument against that, the dutch are the tallest in the world because of there mass consumption of dairy, that's the main reason why, and that's how they got to where they are now from being one of the shortest countries just over century ago. I'm over a foot taller than my mom, and very noticeably taller than my father. The nutrients in milk promote bone growth and keeps them strong, my bones are built like the terminator lol. So I believe that drinking milk is not a myth, but I respect your opinion.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 5/Nov/18

I think the drinking milk thing is mostly a myth. I rarely drank milk as a child and a teen because I hated it, yet I grew up to be this tall.


If you take a look at this chart by CDC, girls on average still grow a bit even after 16. It seems to stop completely at around 17-18. When you say 14-15, I think you mean that's the average age where major growth spurts stop. Click Here
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 5/Nov/18

I think the drinking milk thing is mostly a myth. I rarely drank milk as a child and a teen because I hated it, yet I grew up to be this tall.
Canson said on 5/Nov/18
@David Baldwin: I disagree. Kobe Bryant and Vince Carter looked taller than JR and seeing Lebron with JR, along with Melo and Smith, JR looks 6’4” range. As far as you being fine with it, that’s your view for him. Mine is different. But yes if he legitimately measured that, he should be around 6’5”. To be fair 6’4 1/2 is around 6’5”

@Yusuf: that may be an exaggeration
Yusuf b said on 4/Nov/18
@Canson: Btw Canson do you see Joel Embiid at 7’1 barefoot evening height or is that over exaggeration ?
Ellis said on 4/Nov/18
@Canson: I live in New York, that's why I say not many people are taller than me, the average height is probably 5'7 tbh.
David Baldwin said on 4/Nov/18
@ Canson calling jr Smith 6’4.5 is messed up unless you want to say it’s a night time measurement. Lillard isn’t 6’1.75 but he is 6’1. Jr looks taller then everybody in the nba that is listed at 6’6 in shoes. He measured 6’5.5 in the morning you can’t knock him an entire inch! I’m fine with knocking him down 3/4ths of an inch but not a full inch
Canson said on 4/Nov/18
@Ellis: where do you live?
Canson said on 4/Nov/18
@Nik: I think that was Moe who posted that honestly. But yes you saw in the past where I mentioned that
Nik said on 4/Nov/18
@ Canson - I knew as I remember about some of your personal details from your postings! We do need to have a society that fully gets away from bothering about the things that Morgan jones mentioned in his post to you, people who are jobless need encouragement in life too.
Ellis said on 3/Nov/18
Yusuf b: I'm glad I can help, genetics definitely plays a big role in growth no doubt, but the percentage that it is responsible for determining a persons final height has been up for debate for decades. The general census is around 60 to 80 percent, I would say the percentage is right at 70%. Being tall is a dominant gene, so when most people say the rule of thumb for determining a males height is taking your mother and fathers height(in inches) adding five and then dividing it by 2, I don't believe this. At 14 years, to have the major growth spurt is actually considered a late bloomer, and if you are still growing after 16 that is a good sign(which is your case). Like I said before, consume meat and dairy but not in excess amounts that will be unhealthy. I actually drank a lot of milk because I liked it.
Yusuf b said on 3/Nov/18
@Christian 6’5 3/8”: that’s incorrect by a bit girls reach full adult height by ages 14-15. 15 at max search it up it’s not 16.
Canson said on 2/Nov/18
@Yusuf: I agree with Ellis. Well said! I actually stopped growing around 18-19. If anything during that time it was minimal at best. I was already 6’4” when I graduated high school and possible I was around 193.5ish and gained only another small fraction from there (less than half cm)
Yusuf b said on 2/Nov/18
@Ellis: Cheers mate and tbh idk exactly when my parents stopped growing my mother is small and my father is like 5’11-6’0. All I remember was I had a crazy growth spurt at the age of 14 I was really small about 5’2-5’3 then at 16 and a half I reached 5’8.25 I could actually be 5’8.5 as I’m 174cm. And when I read about foods that can make you grow it always says height is all genetic and that’s all it is apparently .
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 2/Nov/18
It's statistically proven that the average male stops growing completely at the age of 19-20, at least in the US. Click Here I don't get why some say that it's 16. That's about the average for girls.
Canson said on 2/Nov/18
@Nik: Morgan Jones was saying that to me in a trolling attempt. I’m actually neither of those as I’m married and have a pretty good job overall. I don’t usually go into a lot of detail about my personal life unless it’s relevant to height or a discussion. But you see what Christian posted below as I’ve mentioned all of that before in posts. And You can always tell when people are trolling. This Morgan Jones posted right after as Jake Matthews and as “Someone” on Rob paul’s page. It’s not hard to notice a troll as they will post one time under that username then reappear under a different name attacking the same person for no reason (after no prior interactions). Everything he said to me is probably true about himself as he’s mad at the world or something all because someone he doesn’t know is posting in a way that he doesn’t like on a website that he doesn’t own. Nothing to do with himx That’s called being a spoiled petulant child there
Canson said on 1/Nov/18
@Yusuf: you can tell who the real trolls are like that. They post one snide remark where they try to attack or begin an argument with someone (under a username) and don’t ever post again. These are posters who have never posted a single comment. I guarantee you never see another post from one if not both. And I’ve never seen a post from either to begin with.
Ellis said on 1/Nov/18
@Yusuf b: If you want an opinion on this, if you haven't grown for the entirety of last year, that's bad sign. Personally in my experience, I've had pauses for a couple of months but out of nowhere I would start growing again, but for an entire year, that's a very long time to not grow. At 17, you are still young and you have time to grow, truthfully people stop growing at about 20 fully. You need to find out when you're first growth spurt occurred, at what age were you, that will be a great indicator on how much longer you have to grow. Also, ask your parents when they stopped growing, that will also hint when you would stop. For example, my dad was 5'9 at 14, so was I, he had a normal puberty, I had crazy puberty. In that year I grew from 5'9 to 6'1-2, that is an example of when my puberty really began, the first time I ever had growth like I have never seen before. I just turned 18 now, and hopefully still growing, I'm 6'7 at the moment and I have grown 2 inches in the last year. I hope this helps you. If you want to grow, my tips to you are eat meat(not excessively) but in healthy portions, have plenty of dairy in your diet, and sleep the required amount, 8 hours.

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