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Average Guess (192 Votes)
6ft 3.36in (191.4cm)
6ft 3.36in (191.4cm)
Tyler said on 25/Aug/16
Wayne had not had several ribs removed in 1945.
Wayne had not had several ribs removed in 1945.
Tom said on 23/Aug/16
It's foolish to even imagine him wearing lifts. Watch They Where Expendable. Wayne towers over 6' Robert Montgomery.
It's foolish to even imagine him wearing lifts. Watch They Where Expendable. Wayne towers over 6' Robert Montgomery.
Disco1964 said on 21/Aug/16
This is what I found about the height of John Wayne
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6'4" and 240 Ibs
This is what I found about the height of John Wayne
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6'4" and 240 Ibs
Diana 107 said on 19/Aug/16
What difference does it make whether or not Wayne wore lifts? He was a "giant" of men! He brought acting to great "heights",
What difference does it make whether or not Wayne wore lifts? He was a "giant" of men! He brought acting to great "heights",
James said on 5/Aug/16
It's a different "Tom".
It's a different "Tom".
LoganNoll1996 said on 30/Jul/16
So what finally convinced you Wayne was 6'3.75" - 6'4", Tom?
So what finally convinced you Wayne was 6'3.75" - 6'4", Tom?
Tom said on 21/Jul/16
Great photos! Thanks Gonzalo.
Great photos! Thanks Gonzalo.
Gonzalo said on 20/Jul/16
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I don´t think Wayne wore lifts on his wedding day. Looks tall to me
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Wayne and Sidney Poitier. I guess Wayne has ground advantage. Wayne without his rug.
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Wayne and John Ford. Beautiful picture
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I don´t think Wayne wore lifts on his wedding day. Looks tall to me
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Wayne and Sidney Poitier. I guess Wayne has ground advantage. Wayne without his rug.
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Wayne and John Ford. Beautiful picture
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Tom said on 19/Jul/16
James, give it up. You're full of it.
James, give it up. You're full of it.
James said on 19/Jul/16
You can tell Wayne was wearing lifts in "The Sons of Katie Elder" in the long shot of him walking towards the camera.
Kirk Douglas wasn't actually that complimentary about Wayne until long after his death. He only worked with him because his career had declined so much after "Spartacus".
You can tell Wayne was wearing lifts in "The Sons of Katie Elder" in the long shot of him walking towards the camera.
Kirk Douglas wasn't actually that complimentary about Wayne until long after his death. He only worked with him because his career had declined so much after "Spartacus".
Tom said on 18/Jul/16
James, you might be able to tell, but no one else can.
George Raft was hated by those who worked with him. Kirk Douglas, God bless him, was not very popular with those he worked with because he was reportedly a pain to work with. But Douglas, a very strong liberal Democrat, really respected Wayne. The two worked well together. Wayne had the highest respect for Douglas who is amazing. The man will probably live to be 100! I had the pleasure of meeting him many years ago when he was signing a book he wrote. He was extremely nice.
James, you might be able to tell, but no one else can.
George Raft was hated by those who worked with him. Kirk Douglas, God bless him, was not very popular with those he worked with because he was reportedly a pain to work with. But Douglas, a very strong liberal Democrat, really respected Wayne. The two worked well together. Wayne had the highest respect for Douglas who is amazing. The man will probably live to be 100! I had the pleasure of meeting him many years ago when he was signing a book he wrote. He was extremely nice.
James said on 18/Jul/16
Most people outside Hollywood had never heard of Cohn. Wayne was the most hated man in Hollywood due to his support for the illegal US involvement in an unwinnable war in Vietnam.
Most people outside Hollywood had never heard of Cohn. Wayne was the most hated man in Hollywood due to his support for the illegal US involvement in an unwinnable war in Vietnam.
Arch Stanton said on 18/Jul/16
Harry Cohn and George Raft would have been more widely disliked than Wayne!!
Harry Cohn and George Raft would have been more widely disliked than Wayne!!
James said on 17/Jul/16
You could tell Wayne was wearing lifts in "The Sons of Katie Elder".
You could tell Wayne was wearing lifts in "The Sons of Katie Elder".
Tom said on 16/Jul/16
James is ignorant. If Wayne was the most hated person outside Hollywood, then how come he ranked at the top for drawing people into movie theaters? And for decades! As for being hated the most in Hollywood, that's utter nonsense. He was extremely well liked. But more importantly, he was respected.
James, do us all a big favor by taking your political views to a political forum. Politics has nothing to do with a person's height.
James is ignorant. If Wayne was the most hated person outside Hollywood, then how come he ranked at the top for drawing people into movie theaters? And for decades! As for being hated the most in Hollywood, that's utter nonsense. He was extremely well liked. But more importantly, he was respected.
James, do us all a big favor by taking your political views to a political forum. Politics has nothing to do with a person's height.
James said on 15/Jul/16
He lost height as he aged, especially after having a lung and two ribs removed.
He lost height as he aged, especially after having a lung and two ribs removed.
Tom said on 14/Jul/16
It's silly to believe a man close to or at 6-4 would wear lifts.
It's silly to believe a man close to or at 6-4 would wear lifts.
Bruno said on 13/Jul/16
James said on 11/Jul/16
Wayne was actually the most hated person in Hollywood.
I think sir you need for your own sake to stop posting here. We get it that you don't like the Big Fella.
James said on 11/Jul/16
Wayne was actually the most hated person in Hollywood.
I think sir you need for your own sake to stop posting here. We get it that you don't like the Big Fella.
Tom said on 13/Jul/16
Lifts are not invisible. In order to have a padded insert, the sides of the shoe must be higher, sometimes by an inch or more. The angle of the foot changes.
Lifts are not invisible. In order to have a padded insert, the sides of the shoe must be higher, sometimes by an inch or more. The angle of the foot changes.
James said on 13/Jul/16
Most people outside Hollywood had never heard of Curtiz or Cohn, but they knew Wayne. His infamous support for blacklisting, McCarthy, the Iranian and Guatemalan coup d'etats, the Korean War, the Bay of Pigs invasion, the Vietnam War, Nixon, the Watergate coverup etc ensured he was hated more than any other movie actor.
Most people outside Hollywood had never heard of Curtiz or Cohn, but they knew Wayne. His infamous support for blacklisting, McCarthy, the Iranian and Guatemalan coup d'etats, the Korean War, the Bay of Pigs invasion, the Vietnam War, Nixon, the Watergate coverup etc ensured he was hated more than any other movie actor.
Arch Stanton said on 13/Jul/16
The Sons of Katie Elder is another Wayne film where he looked taller than 6'4. In some scenes in that he looked more 6'5-6'6. Dean Martin wore lifts in that film, I suspect that most of the cast did.
The Sons of Katie Elder is another Wayne film where he looked taller than 6'4. In some scenes in that he looked more 6'5-6'6. Dean Martin wore lifts in that film, I suspect that most of the cast did.
Arch Stanton said on 13/Jul/16
In his films where he wore dress shoes, I've never seen any evidence of Wayne wearing lifts. I certainly don't think he was a habitual lift wearer, but as I say, in some westerns I do think it's possible he had an extra boost. As I say he made Dean Martin look 5 ft 8 range in some scenes in Rio Bravo and in the Fighting Kentuckian made 5'11.5-6' Oliver Hardy look 5'10.5-5'11. He looked 6 ft 5 with Oliver Hardy. And Dean Martin usually wore lifts in his films, most of the films of his I've seen he's obviously wearing lifts. You can't say that about Wayne.
In his films where he wore dress shoes, I've never seen any evidence of Wayne wearing lifts. I certainly don't think he was a habitual lift wearer, but as I say, in some westerns I do think it's possible he had an extra boost. As I say he made Dean Martin look 5 ft 8 range in some scenes in Rio Bravo and in the Fighting Kentuckian made 5'11.5-6' Oliver Hardy look 5'10.5-5'11. He looked 6 ft 5 with Oliver Hardy. And Dean Martin usually wore lifts in his films, most of the films of his I've seen he's obviously wearing lifts. You can't say that about Wayne.
Arch Stanton said on 13/Jul/16
"Tom said on 10/Jul/16
John Wayne never wore lifts. "
How can you be so certain? I've not seen any PROOF that Wayne wore lifts, but we also can't be certain he didn't boost his height in s few films. A lot of actors wore lift cowboy boots in westerns to look more imposing. It's not impossible that Wayne wore bigger boots in some films to look even bigger. Doesn't really matter. The point is that he was genuinely close to 6'4 legitimately.
"Tom said on 10/Jul/16
John Wayne never wore lifts. "
How can you be so certain? I've not seen any PROOF that Wayne wore lifts, but we also can't be certain he didn't boost his height in s few films. A lot of actors wore lift cowboy boots in westerns to look more imposing. It's not impossible that Wayne wore bigger boots in some films to look even bigger. Doesn't really matter. The point is that he was genuinely close to 6'4 legitimately.
Tom said on 12/Jul/16
You're proof, James?
I believe lots of people were hated more. Take director Michael Curtiz. He was despised by most actors who worked in one of the many features he directed. And no one was more hated than Columbia Pictures chief Harry Cohn.
You're proof, James?
I believe lots of people were hated more. Take director Michael Curtiz. He was despised by most actors who worked in one of the many features he directed. And no one was more hated than Columbia Pictures chief Harry Cohn.
James said on 12/Jul/16
Lifts are invisible on the outside. No photographs were allowed of Wayne breathing through an oxygen mask after 1964, or riding a trailer when his stunt double rode over a fence at the end of "True Grit".
Lifts are invisible on the outside. No photographs were allowed of Wayne breathing through an oxygen mask after 1964, or riding a trailer when his stunt double rode over a fence at the end of "True Grit".
James said on 11/Jul/16
Wayne was actually the most hated person in Hollywood.
Wayne was actually the most hated person in Hollywood.
Tom said on 10/Jul/16
John Wayne never wore lifts. It started out as a joke that was taken to extreme levels of lunacy by people who couldn't stand his politics. And which director said he wore lifts? Show us proof. And please post photos showing him wearing lifts. You'll discover you can't because they don't exist. And no, there is no such thing as invisible lifts.
John Wayne never wore lifts. It started out as a joke that was taken to extreme levels of lunacy by people who couldn't stand his politics. And which director said he wore lifts? Show us proof. And please post photos showing him wearing lifts. You'll discover you can't because they don't exist. And no, there is no such thing as invisible lifts.
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jul/16
Wayne genuinely was near 6'4 I think, I've seen probably 75% of his films and looked it in every film except The Big Trail. But given that a major part of his image was being a man mountain figure, I do believe that in some of his westerns he added some extra height just to look that imposing. He did have a thing about size, and that was a major part of who he was, so him occasionally wearing boots with a lift isn't impossible. But he was too big to have only been 6'2 flat.
Wayne genuinely was near 6'4 I think, I've seen probably 75% of his films and looked it in every film except The Big Trail. But given that a major part of his image was being a man mountain figure, I do believe that in some of his westerns he added some extra height just to look that imposing. He did have a thing about size, and that was a major part of who he was, so him occasionally wearing boots with a lift isn't impossible. But he was too big to have only been 6'2 flat.
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jul/16
Shootist said on 9/Jul/16
The Duke is one of my all time favorite actors (and I even share many of his political views. I mean Wayne was an old school conservative, not extremists of any kind), but reading some of these comments are…interesting to say at least. I mean it’s interesting to see that there still exists some kind of a fan denial over the fact that John Wayne indeed did wear lifts. It’s not just some ”joke” Robert Mitchum told, but many actors and directors have said it about Wayne. And there is nothing wrong with that – many actors of all heights wears lifts as we know. That’s Hollywood. Past and present.
As for his real height, I cannot be sure how tall John Wayne was, but I’m guessing 6ft 2” is about right. (6' 4" figures are with lifts or set-up). IIRC his son said that Wayne was 6-2.
You can't be much of a fan then. He was barefoot in the Shootist and still looking at least 6'3. And in flat boat shoes, no lifts with 6'1.5 Lee Marvin in Donovan's Reef and looking 6'4 on the nose. I do believe he had a boost in his boots in a few films though, I don't think it's a running joke and made up as you say. In Rio Bravo for instance in some scenes he makes 5'10 ish Dean Martin look 5 ft 8 range, so I think it was clear he had to have been close to 6'4 but often had a booster or wore big boots to pull off nearer 6'6. But I doubt he ever wore "4 inch lifts".
Shootist said on 9/Jul/16
The Duke is one of my all time favorite actors (and I even share many of his political views. I mean Wayne was an old school conservative, not extremists of any kind), but reading some of these comments are…interesting to say at least. I mean it’s interesting to see that there still exists some kind of a fan denial over the fact that John Wayne indeed did wear lifts. It’s not just some ”joke” Robert Mitchum told, but many actors and directors have said it about Wayne. And there is nothing wrong with that – many actors of all heights wears lifts as we know. That’s Hollywood. Past and present.
As for his real height, I cannot be sure how tall John Wayne was, but I’m guessing 6ft 2” is about right. (6' 4" figures are with lifts or set-up). IIRC his son said that Wayne was 6-2.
You can't be much of a fan then. He was barefoot in the Shootist and still looking at least 6'3. And in flat boat shoes, no lifts with 6'1.5 Lee Marvin in Donovan's Reef and looking 6'4 on the nose. I do believe he had a boost in his boots in a few films though, I don't think it's a running joke and made up as you say. In Rio Bravo for instance in some scenes he makes 5'10 ish Dean Martin look 5 ft 8 range, so I think it was clear he had to have been close to 6'4 but often had a booster or wore big boots to pull off nearer 6'6. But I doubt he ever wore "4 inch lifts".
Bruno said on 9/Jul/16
Shootist where is the proof JW wore lifts, there is not one photo that shows this NOT ONE. Wayne acted with taller men, James Arness, Rock Hudson, Jim Hutton, Alan Napier, Mike Mazurki, Chuck Connors, Fess Parker, Henry Brandon etc.
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Check at 1:40 his son Ethan says he stood 6'4''.
Shootist where is the proof JW wore lifts, there is not one photo that shows this NOT ONE. Wayne acted with taller men, James Arness, Rock Hudson, Jim Hutton, Alan Napier, Mike Mazurki, Chuck Connors, Fess Parker, Henry Brandon etc.
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Check at 1:40 his son Ethan says he stood 6'4''.
Shootist said on 9/Jul/16
The Duke is one of my all time favorite actors (and I even share many of his political views. I mean Wayne was an old school conservative, not extremists of any kind), but reading some of these comments are…interesting to say at least. I mean it’s interesting to see that there still exists some kind of a fan denial over the fact that John Wayne indeed did wear lifts. It’s not just some ”joke” Robert Mitchum told, but many actors and directors have said it about Wayne. And there is nothing wrong with that – many actors of all heights wears lifts as we know. That’s Hollywood. Past and present.
As for his real height, I cannot be sure how tall John Wayne was, but I’m guessing 6ft 2” is about right. (6' 4" figures are with lifts or set-up). IIRC his son said that Wayne was 6-2.
Yet, even without lifts Wayne was a very imposing character and that’s why he gained attention with his obsession for extra height and lifts. One would think he really did not need them in the first place, but if the Duke himself felt he needed to be tallest man on the set, who are we to judge.
Great site, btw.John Wayne and other actors are not the only ones Obsessed With Height. Apparently we all are. :)
The Duke is one of my all time favorite actors (and I even share many of his political views. I mean Wayne was an old school conservative, not extremists of any kind), but reading some of these comments are…interesting to say at least. I mean it’s interesting to see that there still exists some kind of a fan denial over the fact that John Wayne indeed did wear lifts. It’s not just some ”joke” Robert Mitchum told, but many actors and directors have said it about Wayne. And there is nothing wrong with that – many actors of all heights wears lifts as we know. That’s Hollywood. Past and present.
As for his real height, I cannot be sure how tall John Wayne was, but I’m guessing 6ft 2” is about right. (6' 4" figures are with lifts or set-up). IIRC his son said that Wayne was 6-2.
Yet, even without lifts Wayne was a very imposing character and that’s why he gained attention with his obsession for extra height and lifts. One would think he really did not need them in the first place, but if the Duke himself felt he needed to be tallest man on the set, who are we to judge.
Great site, btw.John Wayne and other actors are not the only ones Obsessed With Height. Apparently we all are. :)
LoganNoll1996 said on 7/Jul/16
Wayne was one of the most respected celebrities in Hollywood when it came to politics, Tom. He stuck to his guns yet respected other people and their opinions. And you're right, you can't dismiss his character whether or not you disagree with his political opinions. The man was too modest. It's a shame we don't have many people like him anymore.
Wayne was one of the most respected celebrities in Hollywood when it came to politics, Tom. He stuck to his guns yet respected other people and their opinions. And you're right, you can't dismiss his character whether or not you disagree with his political opinions. The man was too modest. It's a shame we don't have many people like him anymore.
Gonzalo said on 7/Jul/16
I think there is a lot of garbage about Wayne beliefs, wether you like them or hate them. I mean there are several cases of left wing actors who respected Wayne and liked him. Lauren Bacall or Kate Hepburn worked with him and spoke marvellous things about Wayne. Robert Aldrich was also a democrat and said Wayne was great man and a true friend. Gregory Peck, Elizabeth Taylor or Kirk Douglas supported the motion of award him the Congressional Gold Medal.
Rock Hudson said Wayne was an angel.
What I mean to say is that he wasn´t as bad, cruel and intolerant person as many people want us to believe. He had his beliefs but respected others. And others respected him
I think there is a lot of garbage about Wayne beliefs, wether you like them or hate them. I mean there are several cases of left wing actors who respected Wayne and liked him. Lauren Bacall or Kate Hepburn worked with him and spoke marvellous things about Wayne. Robert Aldrich was also a democrat and said Wayne was great man and a true friend. Gregory Peck, Elizabeth Taylor or Kirk Douglas supported the motion of award him the Congressional Gold Medal.
Rock Hudson said Wayne was an angel.
What I mean to say is that he wasn´t as bad, cruel and intolerant person as many people want us to believe. He had his beliefs but respected others. And others respected him
Tom said on 5/Jul/16
Dmytryk was hardly a sterling citizen. He ended up naming names in order to get off the blacklist. So did Elia Kazan. At Least Wayne remained true his principles and never double crossed people. You might disagree with his politics, but you cannot dismiss his character.
Dmytryk was hardly a sterling citizen. He ended up naming names in order to get off the blacklist. So did Elia Kazan. At Least Wayne remained true his principles and never double crossed people. You might disagree with his politics, but you cannot dismiss his character.
James said on 3/Jul/16
Yes Wayne personally ruined Dmytryk's life along with Carl Foreman, Stanley Kramer and many other patriotic Americans.
Yes Wayne personally ruined Dmytryk's life along with Carl Foreman, Stanley Kramer and many other patriotic Americans.
Dan said on 1/Jul/16
The director Edward Dmytryk stated in an interview back in the 90's that he didn't agree with Wayne's political views, but thought he was a great actor, and "...he was 6'4" and moved like an acrobat."
The director Edward Dmytryk stated in an interview back in the 90's that he didn't agree with Wayne's political views, but thought he was a great actor, and "...he was 6'4" and moved like an acrobat."
Tom said on 23/Jun/16
Wayne was wearing built up shoes in that terrible film "Blood Alley".
Wayne was wearing built up shoes in that terrible film "Blood Alley".
LoganNoll1996 said on 23/Jun/16
6'3.75" - 6'4". No more, no less. Was way too close to Mike Mazurki in height to have been any shorter than this.
6'3.75" - 6'4". No more, no less. Was way too close to Mike Mazurki in height to have been any shorter than this.
Unsub 5'10" said on 22/Jun/16
Standing next to Chuck Connors, Arness, and Henry Fonda, I had the impression he was not over 6' 3, on the other hand he had 2.5 inches on Lee Marvin who I think was 1.84-85m, so, yeah, Wayne could've been 6'3", sure thing....6'3" was pretty much like 6'5" today.
Standing next to Chuck Connors, Arness, and Henry Fonda, I had the impression he was not over 6' 3, on the other hand he had 2.5 inches on Lee Marvin who I think was 1.84-85m, so, yeah, Wayne could've been 6'3", sure thing....6'3" was pretty much like 6'5" today.
Tom said on 21/Jun/16
He was never 6'4". He was 6'3" at his peak and wore boots with big heels. He was shorter than Rock Hudson.
He was never 6'4". He was 6'3" at his peak and wore boots with big heels. He was shorter than Rock Hudson.
miko said on 20/Jun/16
Surely if Wayne was a lift wearer, at 6'4 he'd have been looking 6'6 range at times and that never seemed to happen.
Against other 6'4 guys he just about held his own through his career, whether that was footwear orientated who knows.
Surely if Wayne was a lift wearer, at 6'4 he'd have been looking 6'6 range at times and that never seemed to happen.
Against other 6'4 guys he just about held his own through his career, whether that was footwear orientated who knows.
James said on 17/May/16
Wayne was 6'3". He was only slightly taller than James Stewart in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" because he was wearing cowboy boots with lifts, while Stewart had ordinary shoes.
Wayne was 6'3". He was only slightly taller than James Stewart in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" because he was wearing cowboy boots with lifts, while Stewart had ordinary shoes.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 15/May/16
Same range as Eastwood, near 6ft4. He'd get irritated if he had to work with a taller actor because he always prided himself on being the biggest, baddest youknowwhat around
Same range as Eastwood, near 6ft4. He'd get irritated if he had to work with a taller actor because he always prided himself on being the biggest, baddest youknowwhat around
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 13/May/16
194cm out of bed, Rob?
Editor Rob
194cm out of bed, Rob?
Editor Rob 6ft 4.5-.75 maybe...
Gonzalo said on 11/May/16
Very, very hard to believe Wayne was under 1`90. 1`87 sounds unrealistic to me. The debate for me is between 1-90 or 1´93.
Very, very hard to believe Wayne was under 1`90. 1`87 sounds unrealistic to me. The debate for me is between 1-90 or 1´93.
Sixseven said on 4/May/16
Gary Cooper 189,John Wayne 187,all books says it.
Gary Cooper 189,John Wayne 187,all books says it.
Gonzalo said on 27/Apr/16
Worden looked tall to me. At least 1`85. He was very funny in The searchers
Worden looked tall to me. At least 1`85. He was very funny in The searchers
LoganNoll1996 said on 26/Apr/16
Is it possible that we can get a page for Hank Worden, Rob? He was in a lot of John Wayne films and is interestingly described as 6'1.5" even though he looked shorter than that next to Wayne. I would say he was 5'11" - 6'0" range.
Is it possible that we can get a page for Hank Worden, Rob? He was in a lot of John Wayne films and is interestingly described as 6'1.5" even though he looked shorter than that next to Wayne. I would say he was 5'11" - 6'0" range.
Tom said on 24/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was 6'1". It was 180,20 who said Wayne was 6'2", not me.
Lee Marvin was 6'1". It was 180,20 who said Wayne was 6'2", not me.
LoganNoll1996 said on 22/Apr/16
Lee Marvin at 6'1" would put Wayne at 6'3.5" which is still taller than what you're claiming him to be(6'2-6'3). But Lee Marvin was 6'1.5" putting Wayne at 6'4". Wayne himself wrote down 6'3.75" as his height and he certainly does look it in a lot of his films even in barefoot scenes. I still will continue to describe him as 6'4".
If Wayne was only 6'2-6'3 then everyone in Hollywood is, according to you(Tom), 1-2" shorter than what Rob has them listed at - and a lot of people agree with Rob's listings.
Lee Marvin at 6'1" would put Wayne at 6'3.5" which is still taller than what you're claiming him to be(6'2-6'3). But Lee Marvin was 6'1.5" putting Wayne at 6'4". Wayne himself wrote down 6'3.75" as his height and he certainly does look it in a lot of his films even in barefoot scenes. I still will continue to describe him as 6'4".
If Wayne was only 6'2-6'3 then everyone in Hollywood is, according to you(Tom), 1-2" shorter than what Rob has them listed at - and a lot of people agree with Rob's listings.
Tom said on 21/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was 6'1".
Lee Marvin was 6'1".
LoganNoll1996 said on 18/Apr/16
6'2" peak for Wayne is ridiculous. He was taller than near 6'2" actors like Ward Bond and Lee Marvin by 2-2.5 inches even when in flats. Not to mention he looked towering even when next to 6'2" guys. 6'3" peak is debatable since there's an image online where he was fractionally taller than Stewart who himself was 6'3".
6'2" peak for Wayne is ridiculous. He was taller than near 6'2" actors like Ward Bond and Lee Marvin by 2-2.5 inches even when in flats. Not to mention he looked towering even when next to 6'2" guys. 6'3" peak is debatable since there's an image online where he was fractionally taller than Stewart who himself was 6'3".
Bruno said on 18/Apr/16
Wayne might have worn "half-inch lifts" so he looked taller compared to other actors in the film like James Stewart and Richard Boone,
What good would that be to a man that stood at nearly 76''.
Wayne might have worn "half-inch lifts" so he looked taller compared to other actors in the film like James Stewart and Richard Boone,
What good would that be to a man that stood at nearly 76''.
James said on 18/Apr/16
Bacall was wearing heels.
Bacall was wearing heels.
180,20 said on 17/Apr/16
6"2-6"3 on his prime.... No More Than that...
6"2-6"3 on his prime.... No More Than that...
Bruno said on 16/Apr/16
Said it all before JOHN WAYNE LOST VERY LITTLE HEIGHT AS HE GOT OLDER.
Said it all before JOHN WAYNE LOST VERY LITTLE HEIGHT AS HE GOT OLDER.
LoganNoll1996 said on 16/Apr/16
I need EVIDENCE, not a simple claim like Ron Howard being 5'7" peak when clearly he wasn't. He was noticably taller than Lauren Bacall in "The Shootist" and she's 5'7.5" so I am to believe she's only 5'5.5" then since Ron Howard was 5'7"? I will admit that Wayne was a flat 6'3" in that film but he was in his late 60s, was overweight, and developed health problems so he clearly lost some height.
6'3.75" - 6'4" at peak and down to 6'3" by his later years.
I need EVIDENCE, not a simple claim like Ron Howard being 5'7" peak when clearly he wasn't. He was noticably taller than Lauren Bacall in "The Shootist" and she's 5'7.5" so I am to believe she's only 5'5.5" then since Ron Howard was 5'7"? I will admit that Wayne was a flat 6'3" in that film but he was in his late 60s, was overweight, and developed health problems so he clearly lost some height.
6'3.75" - 6'4" at peak and down to 6'3" by his later years.
Tom said on 15/Apr/16
Ron Howard is actually 5'7".
Wayne might have worn half-inch lifts so he looked taller compared to other actors in the film like James Stewart and Richard Boone.
Ron Howard is actually 5'7".
Wayne might have worn half-inch lifts so he looked taller compared to other actors in the film like James Stewart and Richard Boone.
LoganNoll1996 said on 13/Apr/16
Ron is around 5'7 - 5'8 nowadays but was definitely 5'9 in his younger years and was completely DWARFED by a barefoot Wayne who was in his late 60s at the time. I need more than just empty claims by other celebrities and celebheights contributors to convince me that Wayne wore lifts. Cause there's evidence to prove otherwise such as his barefoot scenes in "Donovan's Reef" and "The Shootist".
Ron is around 5'7 - 5'8 nowadays but was definitely 5'9 in his younger years and was completely DWARFED by a barefoot Wayne who was in his late 60s at the time. I need more than just empty claims by other celebrities and celebheights contributors to convince me that Wayne wore lifts. Cause there's evidence to prove otherwise such as his barefoot scenes in "Donovan's Reef" and "The Shootist".
Bruno said on 13/Apr/16
James said on 12/Apr/16
Ron Howard is 5'7".
We will have to downgrade every actor's peak height Rob because James says so.
What height is Henry Winkler 5' tall?
James said on 12/Apr/16
Ron Howard is 5'7".
We will have to downgrade every actor's peak height Rob because James says so.
What height is Henry Winkler 5' tall?
James said on 12/Apr/16
Ron Howard is 5'7".
Ron Howard is 5'7".
Bruno said on 11/Apr/16
LoganNoll1996 said on 10/Apr/16
Fact is that he didn't look much shorter barefoot than he did with shoes on. Was well over 2 inches taller than a 6'1.5" Lee Marvin in "Donovan's Reef" and he was barefoot and sometimes in flats throughout the majority of the movie.
And how do we know he didn't just wear 0.25" lifts to bring his barefoot 6'3.75" height up to the full 6'4"? Everyone assumes he wears 2-4" lifts which is a load of crap.
Well said but you are never going to convince these people who believe JW wore lifts otherwise. Yet ask them to produce evidence that he did and they just talk BS. All one needs to do is look at a barefoot Wayne in 1976 The Shootist and see him tower over a 22 year old Ron Howard who is of average height at 5'9''.
LoganNoll1996 said on 10/Apr/16
Fact is that he didn't look much shorter barefoot than he did with shoes on. Was well over 2 inches taller than a 6'1.5" Lee Marvin in "Donovan's Reef" and he was barefoot and sometimes in flats throughout the majority of the movie.
And how do we know he didn't just wear 0.25" lifts to bring his barefoot 6'3.75" height up to the full 6'4"? Everyone assumes he wears 2-4" lifts which is a load of crap.
Well said but you are never going to convince these people who believe JW wore lifts otherwise. Yet ask them to produce evidence that he did and they just talk BS. All one needs to do is look at a barefoot Wayne in 1976 The Shootist and see him tower over a 22 year old Ron Howard who is of average height at 5'9''.
LoganNoll1996 said on 10/Apr/16
Fact is that he didn't look much shorter barefoot than he did with shoes on. Was well over 2 inches taller than a 6'1.5" Lee Marvin in "Donovan's Reef" and he was barefoot and sometimes in flats throughout the majority of the movie.
And how do we know he didn't just wear 0.25" lifts to bring his barefoot 6'3.75" height up to the full 6'4"? Everyone assumes he wears 2-4" lifts which is a load of crap.
Fact is that he didn't look much shorter barefoot than he did with shoes on. Was well over 2 inches taller than a 6'1.5" Lee Marvin in "Donovan's Reef" and he was barefoot and sometimes in flats throughout the majority of the movie.
And how do we know he didn't just wear 0.25" lifts to bring his barefoot 6'3.75" height up to the full 6'4"? Everyone assumes he wears 2-4" lifts which is a load of crap.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 10/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was 6ft1-2 range peak, possibly closer to the latter (6ft1¾). I think John Wayne had 2in on him so this height fits.
Lee Marvin was 6ft1-2 range peak, possibly closer to the latter (6ft1¾). I think John Wayne had 2in on him so this height fits.
James said on 8/Apr/16
Capucine said Wayne wore lifts in 1960, five or six years before Mitchum worked with Wayne.
Wayne wore a wig from 1948 onwards so it isn't surprising he wore lifts as well.
Capucine said Wayne wore lifts in 1960, five or six years before Mitchum worked with Wayne.
Wayne wore a wig from 1948 onwards so it isn't surprising he wore lifts as well.
Gonzalo said on 8/Apr/16
Lee Marvin looked very similar in height to Gene Hackman or William Hurt, who are undoubtedly in the 1´86-88 area.
Lee Marvin looked very similar in height to Gene Hackman or William Hurt, who are undoubtedly in the 1´86-88 area.
LoganNoll1996 said on 7/Apr/16
Just because someone says something doesn't make it true(rumors). If I'm not mistaken, Robert Mitchum was the one to start the lifts controversy. But it could've been as much as a joke poking fun at Wayne's height since he was known for being so towering next to his costars.
He was wearing flats in "The Big Trail" and was still taller than a 6'1-6'2 Ian Keith and a 6'0-6'1 Tyrone Power who both had a footwear advantage over him. And Lee Marvin was definitely not under 6'1. A flat 6'1 is as low as he would've been with his 6'1.5" claim being accurate.
Rob's listing for Wayne is accurate even though it wouldn't surprise me if he was a full 6'4". Even when in flats,socks, or bare feet the man was just massive back in his day.
Just because someone says something doesn't make it true(rumors). If I'm not mistaken, Robert Mitchum was the one to start the lifts controversy. But it could've been as much as a joke poking fun at Wayne's height since he was known for being so towering next to his costars.
He was wearing flats in "The Big Trail" and was still taller than a 6'1-6'2 Ian Keith and a 6'0-6'1 Tyrone Power who both had a footwear advantage over him. And Lee Marvin was definitely not under 6'1. A flat 6'1 is as low as he would've been with his 6'1.5" claim being accurate.
Rob's listing for Wayne is accurate even though it wouldn't surprise me if he was a full 6'4". Even when in flats,socks, or bare feet the man was just massive back in his day.
James said on 7/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was just under 6'1". Wayne was 6'3".
Lee Marvin was just under 6'1". Wayne was 6'3".
Arch Stanton said on 5/Apr/16
Yes, you only have to watch Donovan's Reef with Wayne in boat shoes to see he was near a genuine 6'4. You could see his feet in them and definitely no lifts, The man was between 2 and 3 inches taller than than 6'1.5 Lee Marvin
Yes, you only have to watch Donovan's Reef with Wayne in boat shoes to see he was near a genuine 6'4. You could see his feet in them and definitely no lifts, The man was between 2 and 3 inches taller than than 6'1.5 Lee Marvin
Tom said on 2/Apr/16
Probably because so many people who worked with him said he wore lifts.
Probably because so many people who worked with him said he wore lifts.
LoganNoll1996 said on 1/Apr/16
My bad, I never watched Donovan's Reef yet(only the beginning). Elizabeth Allen is listed on these sites as 5'9". GIven how she worked as a fashion model, it's possible that is not her actual height. She could've been as low as 5'8" - 5'8.5" for all we know. And Wayne appeared to be at least a head taller than her in that scene I posted which would put him as a 6'3ish - 6'4" guy barefoot.
Don't know why people still persist that he wore lifts.
My bad, I never watched Donovan's Reef yet(only the beginning). Elizabeth Allen is listed on these sites as 5'9". GIven how she worked as a fashion model, it's possible that is not her actual height. She could've been as low as 5'8" - 5'8.5" for all we know. And Wayne appeared to be at least a head taller than her in that scene I posted which would put him as a 6'3ish - 6'4" guy barefoot.
Don't know why people still persist that he wore lifts.
Bruno said on 1/Apr/16
She is listed as 5'9'' on a well known movie site. Lifts me a**e Tom.
She is listed as 5'9'' on a well known movie site. Lifts me a**e Tom.
Gonzalo said on 31/Mar/16
That´s not Ursulla Andress, that´s Elizabeth Allen in Donovan´s reef. Wayne appeared barefoot in several movies and he didn´t look much shorter than with shoes on. I am thinking of The quiet man, The searchers or The shootist. In all those movies he looked very big barefoot
That´s not Ursulla Andress, that´s Elizabeth Allen in Donovan´s reef. Wayne appeared barefoot in several movies and he didn´t look much shorter than with shoes on. I am thinking of The quiet man, The searchers or The shootist. In all those movies he looked very big barefoot
James said on 31/Mar/16
Isn't that from the awful film Donovan's Reef?
Isn't that from the awful film Donovan's Reef?
LoganNoll1996 said on 28/Mar/16
John Wayne barefoot with 5'5" Ursula Andress though there isn't a shot of them both standing straight but Wayne looks like he could be a little over a head taller. Click Here
Notice how he's doing his signature walk despite not wearing any form of footwear.
John Wayne barefoot with 5'5" Ursula Andress though there isn't a shot of them both standing straight but Wayne looks like he could be a little over a head taller. Click Here
Notice how he's doing his signature walk despite not wearing any form of footwear.
Tom said on 27/Mar/16
Stewart was probably wearing ordinary shoes whereas Wayne was wearing lifts.
Stewart was probably wearing ordinary shoes whereas Wayne was wearing lifts.
Height ain't nothin' said on 25/Mar/16
I met The Duke in 1977 in L.A. I am 6'5.75" . Remember he was 70 and I 21. he was a legit 6'4". I also met Jimmy Stewart and I can say Mr. Stewart was shorter then The Duke. In my opinion 1.5"
I met The Duke in 1977 in L.A. I am 6'5.75" . Remember he was 70 and I 21. he was a legit 6'4". I also met Jimmy Stewart and I can say Mr. Stewart was shorter then The Duke. In my opinion 1.5"
LoganNoll1996 said on 20/Mar/16
Can't tell whether or not Wayne is closer to the camera than Cooper but he is leaning a bit whereas Cooper is standing straight with his arms crossed. Have no clue who the little guy is though.
Click Here
Can't tell whether or not Wayne is closer to the camera than Cooper but he is leaning a bit whereas Cooper is standing straight with his arms crossed. Have no clue who the little guy is though.
Click Here
Sam said on 20/Mar/16
Rampage, take into consideration Widmark's comment, he was actually surprisingly kind towards Rock Hudson and even at the point where he was producing and directing films he was seemingly ok with appearing with other guys 6'3" or over.
Rampage, take into consideration Widmark's comment, he was actually surprisingly kind towards Rock Hudson and even at the point where he was producing and directing films he was seemingly ok with appearing with other guys 6'3" or over.
Tom said on 17/Mar/16
That's probably why he wore lifts.
That's probably why he wore lifts.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 16/Mar/16
I reckon Wayne resented guys who were taller than him because he was so used to being the biggest guy around and didn't like to be out-sized physically. Clint Walker or Rock Hudson would piss him off. Real masculine thing...
I reckon Wayne resented guys who were taller than him because he was so used to being the biggest guy around and didn't like to be out-sized physically. Clint Walker or Rock Hudson would piss him off. Real masculine thing...
James B said on 15/Mar/16
I thought he looked 6'4.5 in some of his westerns.
I thought he looked 6'4.5 in some of his westerns.
AlexMahone said on 11/Mar/16
Wayne was about 193cm.
Wayne was about 193cm.
Tom said on 7/Mar/16
In Munn's book - where he quotes many people, most of whom were dead - he quoted Wayne as asking, "Do I seem short to you?". He didn't say that Wayne said how tall he was.
In Munn's book - where he quotes many people, most of whom were dead - he quoted Wayne as asking, "Do I seem short to you?". He didn't say that Wayne said how tall he was.
Tom said on 7/Mar/16
Wayne was 6'3".
Wayne was 6'3".
LoganNoll1996 said on 6/Mar/16
Just curious, Tom, how tall do you think Wayne was?
Just curious, Tom, how tall do you think Wayne was?
PLB said on 6/Mar/16
The idea that he wore 4 inch lifts had always seemed improbable to me. I was always an honest 6'4" barefoot but to correct a problem with my foot I once wore some three inch lifts. Jesus. What pain. My back was killing me and I stumbled around like I was drunk. I don't know how the ladies manage. OTOH I liked being taller.
But maybe Wayne did wear big lifts. Herbert Marshall lost a leg and appeared in many movies thereafter looking completely normal. But if he did wear such big lifts there would have had to have been a big conspiracy involving everyone on the set. I think a normal man can get away with funny shoes that add as much as two inches. But I find four inches unlikely. That's almost a stilt.
BTW I watched 'The Alamo' for the first time the other night. Wayne was no director.
The idea that he wore 4 inch lifts had always seemed improbable to me. I was always an honest 6'4" barefoot but to correct a problem with my foot I once wore some three inch lifts. Jesus. What pain. My back was killing me and I stumbled around like I was drunk. I don't know how the ladies manage. OTOH I liked being taller.
But maybe Wayne did wear big lifts. Herbert Marshall lost a leg and appeared in many movies thereafter looking completely normal. But if he did wear such big lifts there would have had to have been a big conspiracy involving everyone on the set. I think a normal man can get away with funny shoes that add as much as two inches. But I find four inches unlikely. That's almost a stilt.
BTW I watched 'The Alamo' for the first time the other night. Wayne was no director.
Rory said on 5/Mar/16
Rob, with all the conspiracies about Wayne and lifts what do you think the chances are that he was more like 6'2 and wore lifts to look about 6'4, or do you rule them out completely and think he was genuinely around 6'4 ?
Editor Rob
Rob, with all the conspiracies about Wayne and lifts what do you think the chances are that he was more like 6'2 and wore lifts to look about 6'4, or do you rule them out completely and think he was genuinely around 6'4 ?
Editor Rob there's no smoke without fire.
In Wayne's case though, maybe there is a kind of myth and an element of Chinese Whispers to it. A joke that grew legs...
In Wayne's case though, maybe there is a kind of myth and an element of Chinese Whispers to it. A joke that grew legs...
Tom said on 2/Mar/16
Was anything Munn wrote true?
Was anything Munn wrote true?
LoganNoll1996 said on 23/Feb/16
Rob, may I suggest reading "John Wayne: The Man Behind the Myth" by Michael Munn? There's an interview in there in which Wayne talks about the lifts rumors.
Rob, may I suggest reading "John Wayne: The Man Behind the Myth" by Michael Munn? There's an interview in there in which Wayne talks about the lifts rumors.
LoganNoll1996 said on 23/Feb/16
Tyrone Power could've lost height but I see him as still being a 6 footer by then. So 6'0" - 6'0.5" which would put him at 6'1" - 6'1.5" when accounting for footwear advantage and Wayne is still taller.
There's also a pic of Wayne with Ward Bond from that film in which Wayne is visibly taller despite having a noticeable footwear disadvantage and Bond himself was a 6'1" - 6'2" guy.
Tyrone Power could've lost height but I see him as still being a 6 footer by then. So 6'0" - 6'0.5" which would put him at 6'1" - 6'1.5" when accounting for footwear advantage and Wayne is still taller.
There's also a pic of Wayne with Ward Bond from that film in which Wayne is visibly taller despite having a noticeable footwear disadvantage and Bond himself was a 6'1" - 6'2" guy.
movieguy said on 23/Feb/16
I don't think he was a full 6'4'' but doubt if he was much less than this. Yeah I can believe he wore lifts as he was same height as 6'5'' Jim Hutton in films they made despite being considerably older. Looked very different as a young man from the more well known middle aged superstar. Much lighter in build and more typically a Hollywood good looking leading man. I actually think he was a brilliant actor although to the younger generation his films probably don't have widespread appeal which I suppose is understandable.
I don't think he was a full 6'4'' but doubt if he was much less than this. Yeah I can believe he wore lifts as he was same height as 6'5'' Jim Hutton in films they made despite being considerably older. Looked very different as a young man from the more well known middle aged superstar. Much lighter in build and more typically a Hollywood good looking leading man. I actually think he was a brilliant actor although to the younger generation his films probably don't have widespread appeal which I suppose is understandable.
Ice said on 21/Feb/16
Im 6'2.5'' in the morning and waer shoe lifts , bc I just feel too short around guys my age
Im 6'2.5'' in the morning and waer shoe lifts , bc I just feel too short around guys my age
Patricia 02/20/16 said on 20/Feb/16
So many comments about John Wayne 's height. Also, someone said he had small feet. Between small feet & lifts,
could those two things together, have been the reason, John Wayne's walk was , lets say, a little different.
So many comments about John Wayne 's height. Also, someone said he had small feet. Between small feet & lifts,
could those two things together, have been the reason, John Wayne's walk was , lets say, a little different.
Tom said on 15/Feb/16
Many celebrities who were 6'1" said they were 6'2".
Tyrone Power was about sixty in "The Big Trail" so he probably wasn't at his peak height.
Many celebrities who were 6'1" said they were 6'2".
Tyrone Power was about sixty in "The Big Trail" so he probably wasn't at his peak height.
LoganNoll1996 said on 8/Feb/16
@Tom
Just about all the sites on here list Keith as 6'2".
@Tom
Just about all the sites on here list Keith as 6'2".
Tom said on 5/Feb/16
Ian Keith was 6'1".
Ian Keith was 6'1".
LoganNoll1996 said on 31/Jan/16
Go watch "The Big Trail", John Wayne's first film as a lead role. Wayne obviously is not wearing lifts in that film if you look at his footwear and he was a little taller than Ian Keith who was regularly described as 6'2". He was also taller than Tyrone Power, Sr. who was wearing boots - and Tyrone Power, Sr. is described on most sites as being 6'1". The lowest I would argue for a young John Wayne is 6'3.5" but no lower.
Go watch "The Big Trail", John Wayne's first film as a lead role. Wayne obviously is not wearing lifts in that film if you look at his footwear and he was a little taller than Ian Keith who was regularly described as 6'2". He was also taller than Tyrone Power, Sr. who was wearing boots - and Tyrone Power, Sr. is described on most sites as being 6'1". The lowest I would argue for a young John Wayne is 6'3.5" but no lower.
Tom said on 16/Jan/16
Also don't forget Wayne had lung cancer when "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" was filmed, and therefore may not have appeared at his peak height without help.
Also don't forget Wayne had lung cancer when "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" was filmed, and therefore may not have appeared at his peak height without help.
Tom said on 16/Jan/16
Stewart did not wear lifts, but Lee Marvin was only six foot.
Since Wayne wore a wig in every film from 1948 onwards, why do you think he wouldn't have worn lifts as well? He wouldn't allow Jack Elam to be cast in "The Train Robbers" because Elam stole "Rio Lobo" from him, and he refused to work with Robert Mitchum after the younger actor stole "El Dorado" from him.
Stewart did not wear lifts, but Lee Marvin was only six foot.
Since Wayne wore a wig in every film from 1948 onwards, why do you think he wouldn't have worn lifts as well? He wouldn't allow Jack Elam to be cast in "The Train Robbers" because Elam stole "Rio Lobo" from him, and he refused to work with Robert Mitchum after the younger actor stole "El Dorado" from him.
marcus said on 14/Jan/16
Disregard last. I was wrong Van Cleef was in the movie as well.
Disregard last. I was wrong Van Cleef was in the movie as well.
marcus said on 14/Jan/16
It was Lee Marvin, not Lee Van Cleef.
It was Lee Marvin, not Lee Van Cleef.
Bruno said on 14/Jan/16
Tom said on 13/Jan/16
Wayne was probably wearing lifts in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". He was playing a character 30 years younger than his real age. They had to cut the film because Wayne couldn't disarm Van Cleef's lightning fast draw.
And was Stewart and Marvin wearing lifts as well, because Wayne and Stewart looked pretty close in height and Marvin about 1.5-2'' lower. Please refrain from talking rot.
Tom said on 13/Jan/16
Wayne was probably wearing lifts in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". He was playing a character 30 years younger than his real age. They had to cut the film because Wayne couldn't disarm Van Cleef's lightning fast draw.
And was Stewart and Marvin wearing lifts as well, because Wayne and Stewart looked pretty close in height and Marvin about 1.5-2'' lower. Please refrain from talking rot.
184.3cm (Night) said on 14/Jan/16
Wayne at 188cm? Then you need to downgrade alot of other big names im afraid. I do think he looked 6'3 at times in some of his older movies when he had flat footwear but he never looked as short as 6'2.
Wayne at 188cm? Then you need to downgrade alot of other big names im afraid. I do think he looked 6'3 at times in some of his older movies when he had flat footwear but he never looked as short as 6'2.
Tom said on 13/Jan/16
Wayne was probably wearing lifts in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". He was playing a character 30 years younger than his real age. They had to cut the film because Wayne couldn't disarm Van Cleef's lightning fast draw.
Wayne was probably wearing lifts in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". He was playing a character 30 years younger than his real age. They had to cut the film because Wayne couldn't disarm Van Cleef's lightning fast draw.
Gonzalo said on 13/Jan/16
LoganNoll1996 said on 4/Jan/16
I've noticed people on here claiming him to have been 6'2" - even using a Mexican visa as "proof". In my opinion he was taller than 6'2" guys like Lee Van Cleef in his prime. He just doesn't look that short
In Liberty Balance Wayne had two inches on Lee Van Cleef. He was taller and much bigger tan him
LoganNoll1996 said on 4/Jan/16
I've noticed people on here claiming him to have been 6'2" - even using a Mexican visa as "proof". In my opinion he was taller than 6'2" guys like Lee Van Cleef in his prime. He just doesn't look that short
In Liberty Balance Wayne had two inches on Lee Van Cleef. He was taller and much bigger tan him
marcus said on 10/Jan/16
High School physical said 6' 4''
High School physical said 6' 4''
Tom said on 10/Jan/16
Mitchum said Wayne wasn't 6'4".
Mitchum said Wayne wasn't 6'4".
Arch Stanton said on 9/Jan/16
Basically we can't prove he wore lifts or didn't wear them. But I think too many people talked about it to dismiss entirely. The only 6 ft and wore 4 inch lifts is certainly utter nonsense though. But until we actually have concrete proof, like an old studio photo of his boots on set with inserts poking out the top or whatever then it's pure speculation. All I know is that in a lot of his films his boots did look really bulky and difficult to walk in, and at times he could pull off looking taller than this listing. But you could say the same thing about any actor walking in those big style of boots.Just look at Burt Reynolds, at times he could look near 6 ft 1 in them!
Basically we can't prove he wore lifts or didn't wear them. But I think too many people talked about it to dismiss entirely. The only 6 ft and wore 4 inch lifts is certainly utter nonsense though. But until we actually have concrete proof, like an old studio photo of his boots on set with inserts poking out the top or whatever then it's pure speculation. All I know is that in a lot of his films his boots did look really bulky and difficult to walk in, and at times he could pull off looking taller than this listing. But you could say the same thing about any actor walking in those big style of boots.Just look at Burt Reynolds, at times he could look near 6 ft 1 in them!
Arch Stanton said on 9/Jan/16
There's certainly no point in debating that he was just 6 ft. In The Shootist I think it was we see him barefoot and clearly he looked a decent 6'3" er even at that age. He was genuinely a big man, and had the frame of a 6'4 man, regardless of footwear. You can't dismiss all the claims as false rumours though, even Mitchum admitted Wayne was 6 ft 4 and wore lifts. In a lot of his films his footwear does look really bulky and difficult to walk around in. There's no proof I've seen of him wearing lifts, but it isn't impossible that he had a booster in his boots in some films to pull off looking even more imposing. That was part of the package he was selling to the public, and his "man mountain" larger than life American image was crucial to his career. I would doubt he ever wore "4 inch lifts" though. As Sam said previously in some films he could really look more massive than others, in certain scenes in fact he could look like a man closer to 6 ft 6. It isn't impossible that he had something in in those films to pull off looking even bigger. But I think it's very clear from watching him in so many films he was genuinely a very tall man even without them.
There's certainly no point in debating that he was just 6 ft. In The Shootist I think it was we see him barefoot and clearly he looked a decent 6'3" er even at that age. He was genuinely a big man, and had the frame of a 6'4 man, regardless of footwear. You can't dismiss all the claims as false rumours though, even Mitchum admitted Wayne was 6 ft 4 and wore lifts. In a lot of his films his footwear does look really bulky and difficult to walk around in. There's no proof I've seen of him wearing lifts, but it isn't impossible that he had a booster in his boots in some films to pull off looking even more imposing. That was part of the package he was selling to the public, and his "man mountain" larger than life American image was crucial to his career. I would doubt he ever wore "4 inch lifts" though. As Sam said previously in some films he could really look more massive than others, in certain scenes in fact he could look like a man closer to 6 ft 6. It isn't impossible that he had something in in those films to pull off looking even bigger. But I think it's very clear from watching him in so many films he was genuinely a very tall man even without them.
Tom said on 8/Jan/16
George Kennedy said Wayne and Dean Martin both wore lifts in "Rio Bravo" and "The Sons of Katie Elder".
George Kennedy said Wayne and Dean Martin both wore lifts in "Rio Bravo" and "The Sons of Katie Elder".
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 5/Jan/16
There are rumours that the man was barely over 6ft and wore massive lifts.
Rob, is there any point debating that or is it a complete myth?
Editor Rob
There are rumours that the man was barely over 6ft and wore massive lifts.
Rob, is there any point debating that or is it a complete myth?
Editor Rob as many know, the more often a lie is repeated, the greater the chance it becomes accepted as the truth.
I think if you watch his movies and see the types of boots men wore, were his much different or could somehow conceal 3 inches worth of lifts?
I think if you watch his movies and see the types of boots men wore, were his much different or could somehow conceal 3 inches worth of lifts?
Arch Stanton said on 4/Jan/16
I've seen some of his rarer mid 30s films of late and he looked close to 6'4 in all of them. Too tall to be under 6'3". The only film I saw of his where he looked 6'2.5 was The Big Trail wearing flat mocassins. In all others his body looks too big to have only been 6'2 range.
I've seen some of his rarer mid 30s films of late and he looked close to 6'4 in all of them. Too tall to be under 6'3". The only film I saw of his where he looked 6'2.5 was The Big Trail wearing flat mocassins. In all others his body looks too big to have only been 6'2 range.
Jake: 1.84 m- 1.85 m said on 3/Jan/16
He did look huge in 'Rio Bravo'.
He did look huge in 'Rio Bravo'.
Unsub 5'10" said on 2/Jan/16
I never believed he was close to 6'4, I think he was more like a strong 6'2 or perhaps 6' 2.5 .
I never believed he was close to 6'4, I think he was more like a strong 6'2 or perhaps 6' 2.5 .
jessman said on 1/Jan/16
Pete, for me 188cm is very believable for Wayne. I just do not see him as 192cm. There seems to be general acceptance of hollywood 2 inch height inflation, but seemingly not when it comes to Wayne.
Pete, for me 188cm is very believable for Wayne. I just do not see him as 192cm. There seems to be general acceptance of hollywood 2 inch height inflation, but seemingly not when it comes to Wayne.
Pete said on 31/Dec/15
Came across this photo (I believe) Mexican visa dated 1948 of John Wayne. Interesting - his height here is listed as 188cm. Click Here
Came across this photo (I believe) Mexican visa dated 1948 of John Wayne. Interesting - his height here is listed as 188cm. Click Here
Tom said on 6/Dec/15
In 1955 Wayne was 6'3" and Mazurki was 6'4".
In 1955 Wayne was 6'3" and Mazurki was 6'4".
Sam said on 3/Dec/15
"Close to 6'5"" for Mazurki according to a newspaper article and Rob's listing, i.e. 6'4.75", consistent with his being roughly an inch over Wayne who wrote for himself 6'3.75". I was wondering if his in character claim of "six four and a half" in The Quiet Man might have reflected a morning measurement Wayne had off-screen.
"Close to 6'5"" for Mazurki according to a newspaper article and Rob's listing, i.e. 6'4.75", consistent with his being roughly an inch over Wayne who wrote for himself 6'3.75". I was wondering if his in character claim of "six four and a half" in The Quiet Man might have reflected a morning measurement Wayne had off-screen.
Tom said on 1/Dec/15
Even Mazurki said he wasn't 6'5".
Even Mazurki said he wasn't 6'5".
Tom said on 30/Nov/15
I've read that Wayne was 6'3.5" at his peak, and 6'3" by his fifties.
I've read that Wayne was 6'3.5" at his peak, and 6'3" by his fifties.
Gonzalo said on 30/Nov/15
Mike Mazurki looked definitely 6`5. Watch The unconquered
Mike Mazurki looked definitely 6`5. Watch The unconquered
Tom said on 26/Nov/15
Mike Mazurki was 6'4".
Mike Mazurki was 6'4".
Tom said on 25/Nov/15
Mike Mazurki wasn't really 6'5".
Mike Mazurki wasn't really 6'5".
Sam said on 20/Nov/15
IMO only a small portion of lift-wearers in earlier Hollywood were caught in photos in them, some actors are more obviously wearing lifts in some roles than Wayne generally was.
IMO only a small portion of lift-wearers in earlier Hollywood were caught in photos in them, some actors are more obviously wearing lifts in some roles than Wayne generally was.
Tom said on 19/Nov/15
Good lifts should be invisible from the outside.
Good lifts should be invisible from the outside.
Bruno said on 18/Nov/15
But why didn't he wear lifts in The Undefeated, when acting with Rock, he looked about an inch lower or so than Rock and if he was worried about his height he defo would have worn them then. If he had 2'' lifts in his boots with Rock then he should appear taller which is not the case.
Check out 1970 Swing out sweet land at about 6 minutes forward you can clearly see his shoes and no lifts and see him stand close to Dan Blocker they are pretty close in height. Why didn't he wear lifts then , why didn't he wear them in Brannigan????
But why didn't he wear lifts in The Undefeated, when acting with Rock, he looked about an inch lower or so than Rock and if he was worried about his height he defo would have worn them then. If he had 2'' lifts in his boots with Rock then he should appear taller which is not the case.
Check out 1970 Swing out sweet land at about 6 minutes forward you can clearly see his shoes and no lifts and see him stand close to Dan Blocker they are pretty close in height. Why didn't he wear lifts then , why didn't he wear them in Brannigan????
Gonzalo said on 18/Nov/15
Ferrer still looked tall in the 80`s, when he appeared in Falcon Crest. Close to 1`90.
The lifts rumour about Wayne is widely spread. It is true that we have not seen any real evidences so far (as we have with other people). But it is also true that there are films of Wayne in which he looks tall (for instance, In harm´s way or The longest day) and others in which he looks huge (The shootist, Rio Lobo). Probably Wayne started wearing lifts in the 60`s when he began to lose height and he wanted to be as tall as he was in his prime. I think we will never know.
Misteries of height. That´s why this site exists
Ferrer still looked tall in the 80`s, when he appeared in Falcon Crest. Close to 1`90.
The lifts rumour about Wayne is widely spread. It is true that we have not seen any real evidences so far (as we have with other people). But it is also true that there are films of Wayne in which he looks tall (for instance, In harm´s way or The longest day) and others in which he looks huge (The shootist, Rio Lobo). Probably Wayne started wearing lifts in the 60`s when he began to lose height and he wanted to be as tall as he was in his prime. I think we will never know.
Misteries of height. That´s why this site exists
Bruno said on 17/Nov/15
Plenty of actors pictured wearing lifts, Bogie, Martin, Glenn Ford, if Wayne wore lifts there defo would be pictures of it either on or off set.
Plenty of actors pictured wearing lifts, Bogie, Martin, Glenn Ford, if Wayne wore lifts there defo would be pictures of it either on or off set.
Pete said on 17/Nov/15
By 1975 both Ferrer and Wayne had probably each lost about an inch in height (older). I believe most people lose 1/4" of height per decade after turning 40. So, Ferrer was probably closer to 6'2", and Wayne 6'2.5" or 6'3". Makes sense.
By 1975 both Ferrer and Wayne had probably each lost about an inch in height (older). I believe most people lose 1/4" of height per decade after turning 40. So, Ferrer was probably closer to 6'2", and Wayne 6'2.5" or 6'3". Makes sense.
Bruno said on 16/Nov/15
Get them pics Rob, haven't seen any!!!
Editor Rob
Get them pics Rob, haven't seen any!!!
Editor Rob there are definitely a few actors who talked about it but I doubt anybody took photos of them...
It may have been one of those rumours that others fuelled with fire.
It may have been one of those rumours that others fuelled with fire.
Bruno said on 15/Nov/15
It's strange with all the lifts talk, there is no picture of him wearing any. In 1975 Brannigan wearing regular shoes he appears nearly 1'' taller than 6'3'' Mel Ferrer. In 1976 The Shootist Wayne looks huge compared to Ron Howard. Wayne barefoot and Ron with boots. I have said it a lot Wayne lost very little height with age.
Editor Rob
It's strange with all the lifts talk, there is no picture of him wearing any. In 1975 Brannigan wearing regular shoes he appears nearly 1'' taller than 6'3'' Mel Ferrer. In 1976 The Shootist Wayne looks huge compared to Ron Howard. Wayne barefoot and Ron with boots. I have said it a lot Wayne lost very little height with age.
Editor Rob Here's another quote from actor Russell McCubbin: "[Wayne] wore lifts in his shoes and he wore a hairpiece. he was a good fella...I got along with him fine."
Sam said on 13/Nov/15
I go back and forth on whether Wayne was wearing lifts in movies, I feel like he did as well...I feel like some films like The Big Trail or Angel and the Badman he's clearly not wearing any and there's too many films where he looks exactly like a man with his listing, wearing average cowboy boots, should look with his often well known co-stars. But then there's some films like El Dorado where he seems more enormously tall than he should at 6'3.75" & it keeps me guessing.
I go back and forth on whether Wayne was wearing lifts in movies, I feel like he did as well...I feel like some films like The Big Trail or Angel and the Badman he's clearly not wearing any and there's too many films where he looks exactly like a man with his listing, wearing average cowboy boots, should look with his often well known co-stars. But then there's some films like El Dorado where he seems more enormously tall than he should at 6'3.75" & it keeps me guessing.
Larry said on 9/Nov/15
Carter and Clinton never said Wayne was their favourite actor.
Carter and Clinton never said Wayne was their favourite actor.
Mike Horn said on 7/Nov/15
I love it when these idiots say John Wayne was not at least 6 3 or better when anyone who met him said he was huge with a personality to match. People want to tear down a man if he has strong beliefs and is still adored by most people. Some people are just plain cynical asses. I won't even get into politics but almost every president including Carter and Clinton said he was their favorite actor and had great respect for him. He is getting even more popular in recent years to the dismay of aforementioned idiots. By the way could a short man have had huge paws like he did? Or maybe those were props
I love it when these idiots say John Wayne was not at least 6 3 or better when anyone who met him said he was huge with a personality to match. People want to tear down a man if he has strong beliefs and is still adored by most people. Some people are just plain cynical asses. I won't even get into politics but almost every president including Carter and Clinton said he was their favorite actor and had great respect for him. He is getting even more popular in recent years to the dismay of aforementioned idiots. By the way could a short man have had huge paws like he did? Or maybe those were props
Larry said on 31/Oct/15
It depends if Wayne was wearing built up shoes.
It depends if Wayne was wearing built up shoes.
LoganNoll1996 said on 29/Oct/15
If Rock Hudson did have 4 cm on Wayne then wouldn't that have made Wayne 6'3.5 in his later films? So that would mean he only lost a quarter of an inch at that point.
If Rock Hudson did have 4 cm on Wayne then wouldn't that have made Wayne 6'3.5 in his later films? So that would mean he only lost a quarter of an inch at that point.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 25/Oct/15
Looked 189-190cm in his last movie.
Looked 189-190cm in his last movie.
Larry said on 15/Oct/15
I think that was just a line in the script.
I think that was just a line in the script.
Sam said on 14/Oct/15
I wonder if ever claimed 6'4.5" off screen as his character did in The Quiet Man.
I wonder if ever claimed 6'4.5" off screen as his character did in The Quiet Man.
Larry said on 24/Sep/15
Dean Martin may have been less than 5'9", he always wore huge lifts.
Oliver Hardy was only 5'11" by 1949 because he had severe obesity and back problems.
Dean Martin may have been less than 5'9", he always wore huge lifts.
Oliver Hardy was only 5'11" by 1949 because he had severe obesity and back problems.
Steve said on 21/Sep/15
Larry, I think Dean was closer to 5'10" while Oliver Hardy was most definitely taller than 5'11".
Larry, I think Dean was closer to 5'10" while Oliver Hardy was most definitely taller than 5'11".
Bruno said on 21/Sep/15
Brannigan was enjoyable, not meant to be the same as Dirty Harry, good car chase driving the Ford Capri and the pub brawl was fun. I thought he worked well with Sir Dickie.
Brannigan was enjoyable, not meant to be the same as Dirty Harry, good car chase driving the Ford Capri and the pub brawl was fun. I thought he worked well with Sir Dickie.
Larry said on 19/Sep/15
Arch, Dean Martin was 5'9". Oliver Hardy may have been 5'11" by the time of "The Fighting Kentuckian" due to his obesity and health problems.
I don't think Wayne would be such a controversial figure were it not for his support for an unwinnable war in Vietnam.
Arch, Dean Martin was 5'9". Oliver Hardy may have been 5'11" by the time of "The Fighting Kentuckian" due to his obesity and health problems.
I don't think Wayne would be such a controversial figure were it not for his support for an unwinnable war in Vietnam.
Larry said on 18/Sep/15
John Wayne was closer to 6'3" by the mid-1950s.
He was too old and ill to play a policeman in "McQ" and "Brannigan", starring in those two films was a mistake.
John Wayne was closer to 6'3" by the mid-1950s.
He was too old and ill to play a policeman in "McQ" and "Brannigan", starring in those two films was a mistake.
Bruno said on 15/Sep/15
Arch Stanton said on 12/Sep/15
Brannigan was enjoyable was McQ I didn't enjoy much.
I enjoyed both, the car chase in around Seattle and the final chase on the beach was good. That car he drove was a beauty. Unfortunately it got crushed.
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The music and that big mother weapon.
Arch Stanton said on 12/Sep/15
Brannigan was enjoyable was McQ I didn't enjoy much.
I enjoyed both, the car chase in around Seattle and the final chase on the beach was good. That car he drove was a beauty. Unfortunately it got crushed.
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The music and that big mother weapon.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 13/Sep/15
Rob, is it possible that he was around 6ft3 flat by the time of his death?
Editor Rob
Rob, is it possible that he was around 6ft3 flat by the time of his death?
Editor Rob might have been under...but nevertheless, they still misjudged his coffin and had to actually order one longer than planned...getting buried in lifts and a Stetson will certainly cause such problems ;)
Arch Stanton said on 12/Sep/15
Brannigan was enjoyable was McQ I didn't enjoy much.
Brannigan was enjoyable was McQ I didn't enjoy much.
Arch Stanton said on 12/Sep/15
Also Bruno, if you watch War and Peace you could argue a stronger 6'3" for Ferrer with Henry Fonda, he could make Fonda look 6'0.5 in some scenes.
Also Bruno, if you watch War and Peace you could argue a stronger 6'3" for Ferrer with Henry Fonda, he could make Fonda look 6'0.5 in some scenes.
Arch Stanton said on 12/Sep/15
@ Steve, Bruno, Sam. I agree that the idea of him wearing lifts does seem ridiculous, especially as there's barefoot evidence in one of his later films that he was still close to 6'4. Rock Hudson had about 4cm on Wayne, are we to really believe he was only high 6'3" in lifts? But a number of people did claim it. Was it their idea of jest, not sure? But I agree fully with what you say about him being a big framed man and him looking at least 6'4" in many films. He made Oliver Hardy look barely 5 ft 11 and Dean Martin look barely 5 ft 9.
@ Steve, Bruno, Sam. I agree that the idea of him wearing lifts does seem ridiculous, especially as there's barefoot evidence in one of his later films that he was still close to 6'4. Rock Hudson had about 4cm on Wayne, are we to really believe he was only high 6'3" in lifts? But a number of people did claim it. Was it their idea of jest, not sure? But I agree fully with what you say about him being a big framed man and him looking at least 6'4" in many films. He made Oliver Hardy look barely 5 ft 11 and Dean Martin look barely 5 ft 9.
Steve said on 11/Sep/15
Who is Knowitall?
LamarrZG, do you really believe everything some actor or entertainer says? If so, you must be terribly naive. Or have an anti-Wayne agenda.
Check out this photo of Wayne with Gary Cooper. Click Here
If you think Wayne is wearing lifts then you must be blind.
Who is Knowitall?
LamarrZG, do you really believe everything some actor or entertainer says? If so, you must be terribly naive. Or have an anti-Wayne agenda.
Check out this photo of Wayne with Gary Cooper. Click Here
If you think Wayne is wearing lifts then you must be blind.
LamarrG said on 7/Sep/15
Sorry to disappoint you Knowitall,John Wayne wore lifts in his shoes,that was verified by people who worked with him,Robert Mitchum,Bobby Darin,Rock Hudson all new he wore them,and they couldn't figure out why...but i know why!
Sorry to disappoint you Knowitall,John Wayne wore lifts in his shoes,that was verified by people who worked with him,Robert Mitchum,Bobby Darin,Rock Hudson all new he wore them,and they couldn't figure out why...but i know why!
Sixseven said on 13/Aug/15
Well said VC
Well said VC
cobra said on 9/Aug/15
This might not be the most accurate picture ever but when you consider who else is there with an aged Wayne it should without a doubt confirm he was in the 6-3 to 6-4 range: Click Here
This might not be the most accurate picture ever but when you consider who else is there with an aged Wayne it should without a doubt confirm he was in the 6-3 to 6-4 range: Click Here
Steve said on 8/Aug/15
The lifts claim makes me laugh. Wayne was a truly big man. Big boned. He looked massive in Bannigan. And no lifts. That's clear to see if you watch the movie. Silly movie, but lots of fun all the same.
The lifts claim makes me laugh. Wayne was a truly big man. Big boned. He looked massive in Bannigan. And no lifts. That's clear to see if you watch the movie. Silly movie, but lots of fun all the same.
Bruno said on 6/Aug/15
The lifts stuff is defo BS. The Undefeated was made later with 6'5" Rock. If he was that worried about his height he would have worn them in that movie. However he appears circa 1" lower than Rock.
I posted a link of Wayne with 6'3" Mel Ferrer in Brannigan, no lifts in his shoes watch the movie and stands slightly taller maybe 0.75".
The lifts stuff is defo BS. The Undefeated was made later with 6'5" Rock. If he was that worried about his height he would have worn them in that movie. However he appears circa 1" lower than Rock.
I posted a link of Wayne with 6'3" Mel Ferrer in Brannigan, no lifts in his shoes watch the movie and stands slightly taller maybe 0.75".
Sam said on 4/Aug/15
I think he looks really massive in El Dorado as well. I don't know where you fall on whether Wayne wore lifts, Arch, but he looked taller than his near 6'4" in these later films.
I think he looks really massive in El Dorado as well. I don't know where you fall on whether Wayne wore lifts, Arch, but he looked taller than his near 6'4" in these later films.
177cmGuy said on 26/Jul/15
The lowest I would go would go for him is 6'3.50. It would have been interesting to see how he would fare against somebody like Randy orton who is estimated as legit 6'4.
The lowest I would go would go for him is 6'3.50. It would have been interesting to see how he would fare against somebody like Randy orton who is estimated as legit 6'4.
Arch Stanton said on 20/Jul/15
Really looked massive in The Sons of Katie Elder, the biggest in fact I've seen him look but might be the narrow screen format I watched it on. He looked bigger than 6'4 in it and 6'5-6'6.
Really looked massive in The Sons of Katie Elder, the biggest in fact I've seen him look but might be the narrow screen format I watched it on. He looked bigger than 6'4 in it and 6'5-6'6.
Jesse Stone said on 18/Jul/15
Well strange is: Lots of people claimed he was wearing lifts, but nevertheless never seemed any taller than a legit 6'4 ( Not even with cowboy-heels and lifts in his movies).
Well strange is: Lots of people claimed he was wearing lifts, but nevertheless never seemed any taller than a legit 6'4 ( Not even with cowboy-heels and lifts in his movies).
VC said on 16/Jul/15
John Wayne is 6'4" with boots and slightly over 6' without boots.
John Wayne is 6'4" with boots and slightly over 6' without boots.
Sam said on 15/Jul/15
Yeah, I think both Arch and I have been trying to get Cooper uplisted a tad to 6'3.25". Oddly enough Cooper looked very even with Jimmy Stewart as well but Stewart could seem a smidge shorter on screen than Wayne. Hard to see more than a half inch between Cooper and Wayne at any rate.
Yeah, I think both Arch and I have been trying to get Cooper uplisted a tad to 6'3.25". Oddly enough Cooper looked very even with Jimmy Stewart as well but Stewart could seem a smidge shorter on screen than Wayne. Hard to see more than a half inch between Cooper and Wayne at any rate.
Arch Stanton said on 30/Jun/15
@Gonzalo I think Robert Stack looked a decent 6 ft guy in his prime, but Rob aint buyin it, but at leats tweaked to 182, Stack was at 180 or 81 at one point!
@Gonzalo I think Robert Stack looked a decent 6 ft guy in his prime, but Rob aint buyin it, but at leats tweaked to 182, Stack was at 180 or 81 at one point!
Gonzalo said on 29/Jun/15
Yes, Bruno, I agree Cooper looks over 6`3 in many movies and pics
Yes, Bruno, I agree Cooper looks over 6`3 in many movies and pics
Bruno said on 25/Jun/15
Great find Gonzalo, Wayne and Coop look the same height in this pic, although Coop is closer to the camera. I reckon they were very similar in height maybe only a few mm in it. Coop was defo over 6'3'' peak, what do you think Gonzalo?
Great find Gonzalo, Wayne and Coop look the same height in this pic, although Coop is closer to the camera. I reckon they were very similar in height maybe only a few mm in it. Coop was defo over 6'3'' peak, what do you think Gonzalo?
Gonzalo said on 23/Jun/15
Wayne and Cooper the same day. Never 100% reliable pictures. This one seems a bit more accurate than the one mrbobh5344 posted. But, as Editor Rob has said many times, pics of people walking can be tricky
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Wayne and Cooper the same day. Never 100% reliable pictures. This one seems a bit more accurate than the one mrbobh5344 posted. But, as Editor Rob has said many times, pics of people walking can be tricky
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Steve said on 22/Jun/15
Gary Cooper was 6'4". He downplayed his height even claiming he was only 6'2 & 1/2".
Copper towered over many true 6' actors.
Gary Cooper was 6'4". He downplayed his height even claiming he was only 6'2 & 1/2".
Copper towered over many true 6' actors.
Gonzalo said on 22/Jun/15
John Wayne and Robert Stack. Stack is listed at 1,82 in this site.
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John Wayne and Robert Stack. Stack is listed at 1,82 in this site.
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mrbobh5344 said on 21/Jun/15
Have seen a picture of Wayne and Gary Cooper walking side by side with sandles and boat shoes showing. Picture appears mid 50's.... when both men are 50ish. They look identical height. Exactly the same.
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Have seen a picture of Wayne and Gary Cooper walking side by side with sandles and boat shoes showing. Picture appears mid 50's.... when both men are 50ish. They look identical height. Exactly the same.
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Sam said on 17/Jun/15
Gonzalo, there's a good chance people might not know you're joking...even Wayne at just six foot is pretty ridiculous!
Gonzalo, there's a good chance people might not know you're joking...even Wayne at just six foot is pretty ridiculous!
patrick said on 3/Sep/12
But that means nothing...looking 6'2 young and 4 aged...Antway, i still insist on saying that leads nowhere to compare what is not comparable. I agree with bruno anyway and i just consider the Duke looking mostly huge and very tall. Even beside James Arness who used to make anyine small even 6'4.5 Robert Easton or 6'2.5 Dennis Weaver.
But that means nothing...looking 6'2 young and 4 aged...Antway, i still insist on saying that leads nowhere to compare what is not comparable. I agree with bruno anyway and i just consider the Duke looking mostly huge and very tall. Even beside James Arness who used to make anyine small even 6'4.5 Robert Easton or 6'2.5 Dennis Weaver.
bruno said on 2/Sep/12
And what height did he look barefoot in The Shootist. He was 68 and Ron Howard is 5'10'' with shoes on. I'd say 6'4".
And what height did he look barefoot in The Shootist. He was 68 and Ron Howard is 5'10'' with shoes on. I'd say 6'4".
Shaun said on 31/Aug/12
No I don't know what you mean. The photos are not supposed to be ideal to gauge height, far from it. I'm basically saying that in terms of height John Wayne in the Big Trail and somebody like Jeff Goldblum its impossible to figure how they could be the same height. Wayne looks nowhere near as tall in that film. You don't have to get all defensive Patrick, I'm not disputing Wayne was actually 6'4", he looked it in most of his films but he oddly looked 6'2" tops in his early movies, that's what I'm saying.
No I don't know what you mean. The photos are not supposed to be ideal to gauge height, far from it. I'm basically saying that in terms of height John Wayne in the Big Trail and somebody like Jeff Goldblum its impossible to figure how they could be the same height. Wayne looks nowhere near as tall in that film. You don't have to get all defensive Patrick, I'm not disputing Wayne was actually 6'4", he looked it in most of his films but he oddly looked 6'2" tops in his early movies, that's what I'm saying.
patrick said on 30/Aug/12
Sorry but...is that serious, i mean those pictures? One showing young Duke alone and another, completely differently shot, with digital camera of aging Goldblum. Sometime i really 'wonder'...know what i mean?
Sorry but...is that serious, i mean those pictures? One showing young Duke alone and another, completely differently shot, with digital camera of aging Goldblum. Sometime i really 'wonder'...know what i mean?
Shaun said on 27/Aug/12
OK, the camera is lower and in favour of making Goldblum look taller but what I'm saying is that it is very difficult to watch the Big Trail and buy 6'4" for Wayne.
OK, the camera is lower and in favour of making Goldblum look taller but what I'm saying is that it is very difficult to watch the Big Trail and buy 6'4" for Wayne.
Shaun said on 26/Aug/12
John Wayne in the Big Trail:
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Jeff Goldblum:
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See what I mean....
John Wayne in the Big Trail:
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Jeff Goldblum:
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See what I mean....
Shaun said on 26/Aug/12
patrick says on 25/Aug/12
In the big trail...he is the only one wearing flat indian mocassins, as if he were bare foot. All the others wear typical western shoes or cow boy boots.
Exactly. And proportionally walking through the doorway next to a woman he looked 6'2" max and looked nowhere near 6'4" in the Big Trail. I've seen the film lot of times and everytime I watch it I try to figure how Wayne could have been as big as 6'4" in it..
patrick says on 25/Aug/12
In the big trail...he is the only one wearing flat indian mocassins, as if he were bare foot. All the others wear typical western shoes or cow boy boots.
Exactly. And proportionally walking through the doorway next to a woman he looked 6'2" max and looked nowhere near 6'4" in the Big Trail. I've seen the film lot of times and everytime I watch it I try to figure how Wayne could have been as big as 6'4" in it..
Mark said on 25/Aug/12
...I'm not interested in getting into debates, but with a bit of spare time I read some posts here and will add my 3 cents. Regarding Wayn's hands; I've read at least two articles, over my life (I have no clue when or where) that say people who shook John Wayne's hand were amazed at how much of a giant mitt his hands were. I've never seen his handprint, so I can't say what's true, only what I know I read. As for height, He certainly was over 6'2, I have no doubts about that...just by the way he looked and sized up to others. 6'3 or 6'4. It's probably like what I think Eastwood's height was. 6'4 "right" out of bed, 6'3 by day's end seems right, for both men. And, Wane never lost good posture. As for Wayne's acting, I think he was spot on. I often chuckle at criticisms of certain actor's acting. Pretend the average person you run into at Walmart is an actor, acting. Would any of us say they were doing good acting? No. We'd say they say their lines with no emotion and they aren't exciting. My point being, how was Wayne "supposed" to act? I believe him when he's acting. I believe he's that guy. That's good acting. Actually, great comedy is the best acting. I could care less about what the Academy thinks is good acting (always drama. Who "Can't" moan and groan and cry). I digress. My apologies. Wayne, 6'3 to 6'4, with mitts for hands...in my opinion.
...I'm not interested in getting into debates, but with a bit of spare time I read some posts here and will add my 3 cents. Regarding Wayn's hands; I've read at least two articles, over my life (I have no clue when or where) that say people who shook John Wayne's hand were amazed at how much of a giant mitt his hands were. I've never seen his handprint, so I can't say what's true, only what I know I read. As for height, He certainly was over 6'2, I have no doubts about that...just by the way he looked and sized up to others. 6'3 or 6'4. It's probably like what I think Eastwood's height was. 6'4 "right" out of bed, 6'3 by day's end seems right, for both men. And, Wane never lost good posture. As for Wayne's acting, I think he was spot on. I often chuckle at criticisms of certain actor's acting. Pretend the average person you run into at Walmart is an actor, acting. Would any of us say they were doing good acting? No. We'd say they say their lines with no emotion and they aren't exciting. My point being, how was Wayne "supposed" to act? I believe him when he's acting. I believe he's that guy. That's good acting. Actually, great comedy is the best acting. I could care less about what the Academy thinks is good acting (always drama. Who "Can't" moan and groan and cry). I digress. My apologies. Wayne, 6'3 to 6'4, with mitts for hands...in my opinion.
patrick said on 25/Aug/12
In the big trail...he is the only one wearing flat indian mocassins, as if he were bare foot. All the others wear typical western shoes or cow boy boots. As for the Mann's Chinese Theatre prints...i also saw them many times...It is easy to guess he just did not 'press' a very hard concrete whichis corroborated by then accounts. In fact, considering those prints - which would tend to make us think John Wayne was actually Mickey Rooney - rather than one's own eyes in, for example, just...warching any of his movies, comes close to being stupid or naively blind or both.
In the big trail...he is the only one wearing flat indian mocassins, as if he were bare foot. All the others wear typical western shoes or cow boy boots. As for the Mann's Chinese Theatre prints...i also saw them many times...It is easy to guess he just did not 'press' a very hard concrete whichis corroborated by then accounts. In fact, considering those prints - which would tend to make us think John Wayne was actually Mickey Rooney - rather than one's own eyes in, for example, just...warching any of his movies, comes close to being stupid or naively blind or both.
Henrik said on 23/Aug/12
@Shaun:
Rock Hudson's height was actually lowered on the bill at times. He was listed as 6'3.5" when he came to Hollywood.
@Shaun:
Rock Hudson's height was actually lowered on the bill at times. He was listed as 6'3.5" when he came to Hollywood.
idosew said on 22/Aug/12
Are the guesses including the high heeled boots he wore? I have seen the boot prints and hand print in LA. I am 5'7" and mine are bigger. The tiny hand prints shocked me.
Are the guesses including the high heeled boots he wore? I have seen the boot prints and hand print in LA. I am 5'7" and mine are bigger. The tiny hand prints shocked me.
Shaun said on 22/Aug/12
He looked 6'2" in The Big Trail but to be fair in most of his movies he looked as big as 6'4". The barefoot seen with that 5'9.5" guy in shoes convinced me that he was legitimately near 6'4". Surprised they didn't inflate his height though as "being big" in that era was desirable. Like I'm surprised they didn't say 6'6" for him, 6'7" for Hudson, 6'8" for Clint Walker and 6'9" for James Arness!
He looked 6'2" in The Big Trail but to be fair in most of his movies he looked as big as 6'4". The barefoot seen with that 5'9.5" guy in shoes convinced me that he was legitimately near 6'4". Surprised they didn't inflate his height though as "being big" in that era was desirable. Like I'm surprised they didn't say 6'6" for him, 6'7" for Hudson, 6'8" for Clint Walker and 6'9" for James Arness!
Henrik said on 20/Aug/12
Well, it seems to me that I tripped on some toes. Did I comment on your whole long post? No. I replied to your saying that people wasted time discussing John Wayne's height. Sure, it is wasting time, but also the whole purpose of this page.
Well, it seems to me that I tripped on some toes. Did I comment on your whole long post? No. I replied to your saying that people wasted time discussing John Wayne's height. Sure, it is wasting time, but also the whole purpose of this page.
JR said on 19/Aug/12
I think he was between 6'3.25 and 6'4 at his peak. Great actor one of my Idols.
I think he was between 6'3.25 and 6'4 at his peak. Great actor one of my Idols.
John Henrys Hammer said on 17/Aug/12
Henrik
Thank you for pointing out that this site is for discussing height.
We would all be lost without your wisdom.
Read my comments again, and try harder to understand the point I was making.
Clearly, you missed it the first time you read it.
Henrik
Thank you for pointing out that this site is for discussing height.
We would all be lost without your wisdom.
Read my comments again, and try harder to understand the point I was making.
Clearly, you missed it the first time you read it.
patrick said on 17/Aug/12
Stone as well as previously JHH, you both wrote 'gold'...I just cannot do anything but agree with you...i could have written those words. Some people can even be 6' 5 or 5'4 and nobody cares because they don't 'have it'. James Cagney, a far more - to me - interesting, weak word, man than the other James, Dean, was probably 5'5 or 5'6 tops...but what a giant! His height was a part of his personality...as Mickey Mouse's one - joke but then...The Duke was not only tall, many are tall and who remarks them, but a giant in humanity as Cagney, Bogart, Tracy and even in his own way, Mickey...Rooney. The Duke was huge and the great Rock Hudson could not match him though in this feature film, taller. He was something no one has been before or after him...James Arness, a great man too was possibly two inches taller but finally smaller. I am just sure him or the wonderful Clint Walker would have agreed. I miss the ones Stone mentioned...all of them. I was born in 1953, in France and i all along my life, considered them as landmarks as human beings i wanted to take as examples in my own life as well as actors larger than life. John Wayne's movies are first his own ones, even the less interesting as jet pilot, get benefit of his incredible presence that makes it watchable. There was only one John Wayne and this very world cannot produce another, at least 'known'. Watch movies of the 30ies, 40ies and 50ies...and tell me, comparing to what is on screen now, there is nothing wrong in our values, tastes today, that it is 'better', more intelligent, more profound...actors to day are short or not tall but should they be tall, but a bunch of TV actors, they would be dwarfed by any of the Stone's list.e comments. Height matters only a part of the man's personality. Some can
Stone as well as previously JHH, you both wrote 'gold'...I just cannot do anything but agree with you...i could have written those words. Some people can even be 6' 5 or 5'4 and nobody cares because they don't 'have it'. James Cagney, a far more - to me - interesting, weak word, man than the other James, Dean, was probably 5'5 or 5'6 tops...but what a giant! His height was a part of his personality...as Mickey Mouse's one - joke but then...The Duke was not only tall, many are tall and who remarks them, but a giant in humanity as Cagney, Bogart, Tracy and even in his own way, Mickey...Rooney. The Duke was huge and the great Rock Hudson could not match him though in this feature film, taller. He was something no one has been before or after him...James Arness, a great man too was possibly two inches taller but finally smaller. I am just sure him or the wonderful Clint Walker would have agreed. I miss the ones Stone mentioned...all of them. I was born in 1953, in France and i all along my life, considered them as landmarks as human beings i wanted to take as examples in my own life as well as actors larger than life. John Wayne's movies are first his own ones, even the less interesting as jet pilot, get benefit of his incredible presence that makes it watchable. There was only one John Wayne and this very world cannot produce another, at least 'known'. Watch movies of the 30ies, 40ies and 50ies...and tell me, comparing to what is on screen now, there is nothing wrong in our values, tastes today, that it is 'better', more intelligent, more profound...actors to day are short or not tall but should they be tall, but a bunch of TV actors, they would be dwarfed by any of the Stone's list.e comments. Height matters only a part of the man's personality. Some can
Henrik said on 13/Aug/12
patrick, I wrote that the picture I provided was from one of his movies - The Searchers. It might just be the picture that's tricking me. I'm not saying that's an impossibility.
@John Henrys Hammer
This site is about discussing height. And most of us are not denying that Wayne was about 6'4", I think.
patrick, I wrote that the picture I provided was from one of his movies - The Searchers. It might just be the picture that's tricking me. I'm not saying that's an impossibility.
@John Henrys Hammer
This site is about discussing height. And most of us are not denying that Wayne was about 6'4", I think.
John Henrys Hammer said on 12/Aug/12
I find this arguing about the Big Man's height bemusing. Aye, I've always been interested in height (and cursed my body for years for reaching only 6' 1" and not the 6' 2" I expected to be!) but folk are wasting time squabbling over JW's height and size. Frankly, some of the comments are cringeworthy, such as, 'He had small hands!' or 'He was only 5 foot something and they made the sets smaller than normal scale to make him look bigger!". Dear oh dear. John Wayne at his peak was six foot four. This is documentated in his college years. He was clearly a big, big man - even if he lost an inch or so as he went into his sixties. His hands were huge. His feet were average. I mean, what the heck are you lot arguing about?? This is not Frank Sinatra we're arguing about, a little guy who always wore lifts to appear taller. This is John Wayne! He was huge! And yes, even though he was huge, some other actors were even bigger, or at least taller. Rock Hudso is clearly taller (and a whole lot slimmer (sorry Duke)) in The Undefeated. Hudson I believe was six foot five, so even at Dukes peak, Hudson was taller. James Arness was a ridiculous height, six foot six or seven. I don't understand why some folk use some other actors who were taller than Duke as a some sort of weapon against him. A lot of folk are taller than six foot four. The point is, Duke was six foot four at his peak and had an excellent proportion of body, reasonably long legged and massiceve in the torso (look at him next to Dean Martin or Glen Campbell, he towers over them and they, whilst not being greatlt tall, were certainly not short. A good indicator is the scene in Donovans Reef when Duke and Lee Marvin are standing side by side after fighting in the water. Both appear to be wearing flat soled shoes. Wayne is clearly an inch or two taller than Marvin, who was a solid six foot two. Maybe by that time (he must have been around 55 years old) he had lost an inch in height, but he was still huge.
Anyway, point is, debates would make more sense on folk we know aren't as tall they claim or appear.
I find this arguing about the Big Man's height bemusing. Aye, I've always been interested in height (and cursed my body for years for reaching only 6' 1" and not the 6' 2" I expected to be!) but folk are wasting time squabbling over JW's height and size. Frankly, some of the comments are cringeworthy, such as, 'He had small hands!' or 'He was only 5 foot something and they made the sets smaller than normal scale to make him look bigger!". Dear oh dear. John Wayne at his peak was six foot four. This is documentated in his college years. He was clearly a big, big man - even if he lost an inch or so as he went into his sixties. His hands were huge. His feet were average. I mean, what the heck are you lot arguing about?? This is not Frank Sinatra we're arguing about, a little guy who always wore lifts to appear taller. This is John Wayne! He was huge! And yes, even though he was huge, some other actors were even bigger, or at least taller. Rock Hudso is clearly taller (and a whole lot slimmer (sorry Duke)) in The Undefeated. Hudson I believe was six foot five, so even at Dukes peak, Hudson was taller. James Arness was a ridiculous height, six foot six or seven. I don't understand why some folk use some other actors who were taller than Duke as a some sort of weapon against him. A lot of folk are taller than six foot four. The point is, Duke was six foot four at his peak and had an excellent proportion of body, reasonably long legged and massiceve in the torso (look at him next to Dean Martin or Glen Campbell, he towers over them and they, whilst not being greatlt tall, were certainly not short. A good indicator is the scene in Donovans Reef when Duke and Lee Marvin are standing side by side after fighting in the water. Both appear to be wearing flat soled shoes. Wayne is clearly an inch or two taller than Marvin, who was a solid six foot two. Maybe by that time (he must have been around 55 years old) he had lost an inch in height, but he was still huge.
Anyway, point is, debates would make more sense on folk we know aren't as tall they claim or appear.
patrick said on 5/Aug/12
With Rock but at 62 and with so many surgeries, ribbs-off...i couldn't open the Charlton Heston's one, sorry.
With Rock but at 62 and with so many surgeries, ribbs-off...i couldn't open the Charlton Heston's one, sorry.
patrick said on 4/Aug/12
Rendur said on July 25th: ''NOT according to Universal Studios. They show the boxes they used for him to stand on in order to be taller than his leading ladies& the special 3/4 scale they had to make the saloon doors so they he would "appear" to fill up the space. Universal says that he was only 5' something.''. Either i am stupid and need to get english lessons or this is the most ridiculous comment i ever read in that besides perfect site. About proportions, the Duke - as welle as Sean Conneyr - was a very proportioned man which makes him look majestic, stately stature he wisely knew how to use.In Gunsmoke episodes with Dennis Weaver who always looked very tall as about 6'2.5, above all at the time, James Arness litterally dwarfes him, in height as well as in shoulder width. He looks like a sunday-school boy beside Arness and as far as i know, that is never the impression the duke gives whether it is in watching movies Arness co-stars or the pics, including those put here by Henrik. As for having 'samll hands', have you ever watch any Wayne's movie to say that? He has huge bear paws and anyone can see that. About Lucchese boots, they have exactly the same heel height as any other brand used by other actors in any western, making them all looking with the same height advantage. Fireman, the story is nothing but absolutely true and very known. The pic Outlaw shows with Ryan and Wayne proves they were the same height which is visible in their common movies. John Wayne was besides, always swaying and pratically never stood upright even in his 'military-soldier movies'. His favorite pose was always standing on one leg, the other being folded, torso and head swaying aside with a gentle smile as only have real strong people. No showing off here and real cool attitude, nothing to do with so-called cool actors as the late Steve McQueen, Brando or the supposedly cool James Dean who was a very interesting actor but tormented as the the two others. Paul Newman was another real cool man. Looking cool and being so are two completely different things. The Duke didn't care looking taller or not, ore else he always would have stood uprigth not to loose a tenth inch of height! Building special 3/4 doors frames to make him look taller...how is it possible such silly things can be engendered by a human brain?
Rendur said on July 25th: ''NOT according to Universal Studios. They show the boxes they used for him to stand on in order to be taller than his leading ladies& the special 3/4 scale they had to make the saloon doors so they he would "appear" to fill up the space. Universal says that he was only 5' something.''. Either i am stupid and need to get english lessons or this is the most ridiculous comment i ever read in that besides perfect site. About proportions, the Duke - as welle as Sean Conneyr - was a very proportioned man which makes him look majestic, stately stature he wisely knew how to use.In Gunsmoke episodes with Dennis Weaver who always looked very tall as about 6'2.5, above all at the time, James Arness litterally dwarfes him, in height as well as in shoulder width. He looks like a sunday-school boy beside Arness and as far as i know, that is never the impression the duke gives whether it is in watching movies Arness co-stars or the pics, including those put here by Henrik. As for having 'samll hands', have you ever watch any Wayne's movie to say that? He has huge bear paws and anyone can see that. About Lucchese boots, they have exactly the same heel height as any other brand used by other actors in any western, making them all looking with the same height advantage. Fireman, the story is nothing but absolutely true and very known. The pic Outlaw shows with Ryan and Wayne proves they were the same height which is visible in their common movies. John Wayne was besides, always swaying and pratically never stood upright even in his 'military-soldier movies'. His favorite pose was always standing on one leg, the other being folded, torso and head swaying aside with a gentle smile as only have real strong people. No showing off here and real cool attitude, nothing to do with so-called cool actors as the late Steve McQueen, Brando or the supposedly cool James Dean who was a very interesting actor but tormented as the the two others. Paul Newman was another real cool man. Looking cool and being so are two completely different things. The Duke didn't care looking taller or not, ore else he always would have stood uprigth not to loose a tenth inch of height! Building special 3/4 doors frames to make him look taller...how is it possible such silly things can be engendered by a human brain?
firemane said on 1/Aug/12
Read a story somewhere about him beating up a bodyguard of Frank Sintra. They stood looking each other in the eyes in Frank's hotel doorway, and were equal in height. Frank mentioned that he had a 6'4" bodyguard. Wayne knocked him down with one swing, then slammed a stereo and table across his back, knocking him out.
Read a story somewhere about him beating up a bodyguard of Frank Sintra. They stood looking each other in the eyes in Frank's hotel doorway, and were equal in height. Frank mentioned that he had a 6'4" bodyguard. Wayne knocked him down with one swing, then slammed a stereo and table across his back, knocking him out.
rendur said on 25/Jul/12
NOT according to Universal Studios. They show the boxes they used for him to stand on in order to be taller than his leading ladies& the special 3/4 scale they had to make the saloon doors so they he would "appear" to fill up the space. Universal says that he was only 5' something.
NOT according to Universal Studios. They show the boxes they used for him to stand on in order to be taller than his leading ladies& the special 3/4 scale they had to make the saloon doors so they he would "appear" to fill up the space. Universal says that he was only 5' something.
macdaddy said on 24/Jul/12
Happy Shahan who owned the ranch where the Alamo was filmed told me that Wayne was about 6'3". Wayne nearly always wore Lucchese Cowboy boots which add 2" to his height.
Happy Shahan who owned the ranch where the Alamo was filmed told me that Wayne was about 6'3". Wayne nearly always wore Lucchese Cowboy boots which add 2" to his height.
adam said on 9/Jun/12
So this works again, Rob?
So this works again, Rob?
Henrik said on 14/Feb/12
Most guys that I know who are 6'3"-6'4" wear a size 10-12US shoe (12 being the most uncommon), which Wayne supposedly did (11). My uncle is a weak 6'4" and takes 11. I also have a 6'6" friend who wears 11. I am 6'3" myself, and I take 13. My feet surely do stand out and are occasionally seen as "freaky", I can tell you that. Don't know if it's really that legitimate to say that Wayne had unnormally small feet...
It seemed to be true, however, that he did have small hands:
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Most guys that I know who are 6'3"-6'4" wear a size 10-12US shoe (12 being the most uncommon), which Wayne supposedly did (11). My uncle is a weak 6'4" and takes 11. I also have a 6'6" friend who wears 11. I am 6'3" myself, and I take 13. My feet surely do stand out and are occasionally seen as "freaky", I can tell you that. Don't know if it's really that legitimate to say that Wayne had unnormally small feet...
It seemed to be true, however, that he did have small hands:
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Picture is from The Searchers.
jtm said on 13/Feb/12
charles bronson was closer to 5'7. the 5'9-5'10 claims for him is a joke. wayne was a weak 6'4.
charles bronson was closer to 5'7. the 5'9-5'10 claims for him is a joke. wayne was a weak 6'4.
Henrik said on 11/Feb/12
In Big Jim McLain, 6'7" James Arness looked like he would be able to tower over The Duke.
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Wayne was often dressed in ways that made his legs look smaller.
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I would say that he had a moderate build, neither long- or short-legged. He would indeed have looked more proportionate at 6'2"-6'3", which makes me inclined to believe that he actually was around the 6'4" mark.
In Big Jim McLain, 6'7" James Arness looked like he would be able to tower over The Duke.
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Wayne was often dressed in ways that made his legs look smaller.
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I would say that he had a moderate build, neither long- or short-legged. He would indeed have looked more proportionate at 6'2"-6'3", which makes me inclined to believe that he actually was around the 6'4" mark.
Shaun said on 10/Feb/12
Yeah exactly. Charles Bronson was the sort of guy though that no tall man wants to get in a fight with in a pub. He was like one of those pug faced super tough boxers with stamina who would the s**t out of most bigger guys and will "fight to the burger". Sinewy is a perfect word to describe him. Or "weathered", like Paul Hogan as Croc Dundee. I can believe Wayne was 6'4" but had comparitively short legs and small feet for his height and a very large torso. But I think there was more chance of 6'3.5" than 6'4.5" in all honesty Carl. Clint Eastwood and Clint Walker on the other hand obviously wore a 36 inseam. I think we saw his true height in that barefoot clip in a dressing gown and he was quite old at the time too and looked 6'4" in comparison, that's what convinced me anyway. But if you watch the Big Trail or several of his other early films seriously you will find yourself squinting at the screen and thinking "6'4, really?? My personal opinion is that he looked 6'2" ish in the Big Trail and didn't even look close to 6'4". And he did look 4 inches shorter than Alan Napier in Big Jim Mclain.
Yeah exactly. Charles Bronson was the sort of guy though that no tall man wants to get in a fight with in a pub. He was like one of those pug faced super tough boxers with stamina who would the s**t out of most bigger guys and will "fight to the burger". Sinewy is a perfect word to describe him. Or "weathered", like Paul Hogan as Croc Dundee. I can believe Wayne was 6'4" but had comparitively short legs and small feet for his height and a very large torso. But I think there was more chance of 6'3.5" than 6'4.5" in all honesty Carl. Clint Eastwood and Clint Walker on the other hand obviously wore a 36 inseam. I think we saw his true height in that barefoot clip in a dressing gown and he was quite old at the time too and looked 6'4" in comparison, that's what convinced me anyway. But if you watch the Big Trail or several of his other early films seriously you will find yourself squinting at the screen and thinking "6'4, really?? My personal opinion is that he looked 6'2" ish in the Big Trail and didn't even look close to 6'4". And he did look 4 inches shorter than Alan Napier in Big Jim Mclain.
Henrik said on 9/Feb/12
John Wayne's legs were 34" (inseam). They auction out pants worn by him in his films with that inseam (the ones he wore short were usually 32") on the Internet.
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Sean Connery was supposedly a strong 6'2" (189cm) with a 34" inseam:
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It's up to you whether you think Wayne's torso was longer than Connery's or not.
John Wayne's legs were 34" (inseam). They auction out pants worn by him in his films with that inseam (the ones he wore short were usually 32") on the Internet.
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Sean Connery was supposedly a strong 6'2" (189cm) with a 34" inseam:
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It's up to you whether you think Wayne's torso was longer than Connery's or not.
Henrik said on 9/Feb/12
Patrick says on 9/Feb/12
Henrik, Charles Bronson was not tall but not short for all that at probably about 5’9 or so, maybe 5‘8 minimum. He however, was so well built and visibly naturally very strong – the natural biggest and sinew arms ever – that nobody paid attention to his height. A bit as about Robert Conrad. It is not his page but since we are talking about “men”…John Wayne was very tall and broad shouldered and with long big arms and legs. Many actors were then minimum or above 6’1 while being 6 now is “tall”. That’s a fact.
Charles Bronson was 5'8" according to this site. Supposedly often referred to as 6' in his movies. 5'8" wasn't short for his era in real life, but it was for the Hollywood standards back then.
Patrick says on 9/Feb/12
Henrik, Charles Bronson was not tall but not short for all that at probably about 5’9 or so, maybe 5‘8 minimum. He however, was so well built and visibly naturally very strong – the natural biggest and sinew arms ever – that nobody paid attention to his height. A bit as about Robert Conrad. It is not his page but since we are talking about “men”…John Wayne was very tall and broad shouldered and with long big arms and legs. Many actors were then minimum or above 6’1 while being 6 now is “tall”. That’s a fact.
Charles Bronson was 5'8" according to this site. Supposedly often referred to as 6' in his movies. 5'8" wasn't short for his era in real life, but it was for the Hollywood standards back then.
Patrick said on 9/Feb/12
Henrik, Charles Bronson was not tall but not short for all that at probably about 5’9 or so, maybe 5‘8 minimum. He however, was so well built and visibly naturally very strong – the natural biggest and sinew arms ever – that nobody paid attention to his height. A bit as about Robert Conrad. It is not his page but since we are talking about “men”…John Wayne was very tall and broad shouldered and with long big arms and legs. Many actors were then minimum or above 6’1 while being 6 now is “tall”. That’s a fact.
Henrik, Charles Bronson was not tall but not short for all that at probably about 5’9 or so, maybe 5‘8 minimum. He however, was so well built and visibly naturally very strong – the natural biggest and sinew arms ever – that nobody paid attention to his height. A bit as about Robert Conrad. It is not his page but since we are talking about “men”…John Wayne was very tall and broad shouldered and with long big arms and legs. Many actors were then minimum or above 6’1 while being 6 now is “tall”. That’s a fact.
Henrik said on 8/Feb/12
Yeah, Patrick. Some seem to have a hard time coping with the fact that the majority of old Western actors were tall. Come on, there were shorter ones too, like Charles Bronson and James Dean.
Yeah, Patrick. Some seem to have a hard time coping with the fact that the majority of old Western actors were tall. Come on, there were shorter ones too, like Charles Bronson and James Dean.
Patrick said on 6/Feb/12
Calling anyone idiot is very rude and above all, easy behind one’s keyboard but that person sounds qualified to do so for being himself “so”. Actually, arguing Clint Eastwood being 6’1 at peal is not only irrelevant but silly. This is a serious site! I still believe that the Duke was 6’4 even though I admit that sometimes, he only looks 6’3 just because of his swaying and never having a straight up posture while facing standing upright tall actors.
Calling anyone idiot is very rude and above all, easy behind one’s keyboard but that person sounds qualified to do so for being himself “so”. Actually, arguing Clint Eastwood being 6’1 at peal is not only irrelevant but silly. This is a serious site! I still believe that the Duke was 6’4 even though I admit that sometimes, he only looks 6’3 just because of his swaying and never having a straight up posture while facing standing upright tall actors.
Henrik said on 18/Jan/12
I'd be careful about calling others "idiots" when claiming a peak Eastwood to have been 6'1" (!). John Wayne was listed 6'3" in high scool medical records, and 6'4" in college records. At least my school nurse put down what she got from the stadiometer in my records.
As for Clint, here he is appearing with 6'1"-6'2" (listed 6'1.5") Paul Benjamin: Click Here
I'd be careful about calling others "idiots" when claiming a peak Eastwood to have been 6'1" (!). John Wayne was listed 6'3" in high scool medical records, and 6'4" in college records. At least my school nurse put down what she got from the stadiometer in my records.
As for Clint, here he is appearing with 6'1"-6'2" (listed 6'1.5") Paul Benjamin: Click Here
? said on 15/Jan/12
Yall are a bunch of idiots John wayne was 6'2, clint 6'1, lee van was 6 to 6'1 John wayne once stated that he was 6'2 when he offered his friend to join a cowboy show who was 6'6 i believe it was gunsmoke. I myself would murder sombody if it would make me 6'2 or 6'5 im only 6 feet so i know peoples height by addiction
Yall are a bunch of idiots John wayne was 6'2, clint 6'1, lee van was 6 to 6'1 John wayne once stated that he was 6'2 when he offered his friend to join a cowboy show who was 6'6 i believe it was gunsmoke. I myself would murder sombody if it would make me 6'2 or 6'5 im only 6 feet so i know peoples height by addiction
maio said on 9/Jan/12
6 ft 4 in/193 cm is the right one
6 ft 4 in/193 cm is the right one
Carl said on 6/Jan/12
6ft 4ins, it's stated in his football college records....!
6ft 4ins, it's stated in his football college records....!
Billy said on 5/Jan/12
6-3.5 was his height and he often wore lifts to make him look even taller than that. People saying below 6-3 or above 6-4 are talking utter nonsense and have not done any thorough research.
As Wayne himself said 'They're just spitting words out, to see where they splatter!'
6-3.5 was his height and he often wore lifts to make him look even taller than that. People saying below 6-3 or above 6-4 are talking utter nonsense and have not done any thorough research.
As Wayne himself said 'They're just spitting words out, to see where they splatter!'
adam 2 said on 25/Dec/11
No taller than Randy Scott. John Wayne: The Politics Of A Celebrity states six foot three.
No taller than Randy Scott. John Wayne: The Politics Of A Celebrity states six foot three.
Mike said on 20/Dec/11
anyone use height comparisons from movies is dreaming. You can't know what kind of image they wanted to portray. Doorways might not be the normal size. Remember in Blue Lagoon, Brooke Shields walked in trenches any time she was near the male lead who was several inches shorter. But he always looked taller. Official record is at least 6'4". But really, what does it matter. The Duke was great.
anyone use height comparisons from movies is dreaming. You can't know what kind of image they wanted to portray. Doorways might not be the normal size. Remember in Blue Lagoon, Brooke Shields walked in trenches any time she was near the male lead who was several inches shorter. But he always looked taller. Official record is at least 6'4". But really, what does it matter. The Duke was great.
Carl said on 1/Dec/11
6ft 4.5ins is simply the truth!
6ft 4.5ins is simply the truth!
Henrik said on 23/Nov/11
There's not much of a chance that Wayne was ever 6'4.5". He was 6'4" flat AT MOST.
There's not much of a chance that Wayne was ever 6'4.5". He was 6'4" flat AT MOST.
brunobrowne said on 22/Nov/11
TRIPLEHHH says on 22/Nov/11
brunobrowne your living in the land of OZ. Rock H. was 6'5. Wayne was at least 6'3 barefoot.
I'm taking the P out of Ivor, Look at what I said in the last paragraph, at least 6 inches taller than Ron Howard and Wayne was barefoot.
Peak height Wayne = 6' 4.5''
Hudson= 6' 5''
TRIPLEHHH says on 22/Nov/11
brunobrowne your living in the land of OZ. Rock H. was 6'5. Wayne was at least 6'3 barefoot.
I'm taking the P out of Ivor, Look at what I said in the last paragraph, at least 6 inches taller than Ron Howard and Wayne was barefoot.
Peak height Wayne = 6' 4.5''
Hudson= 6' 5''
TRIPLEHHH said on 22/Nov/11
brunobrowne your living in the land of OZ. Rock H. was 6'5. Wayne was at least 6'3 barefoot.
brunobrowne your living in the land of OZ. Rock H. was 6'5. Wayne was at least 6'3 barefoot.
brunobrowne said on 21/Nov/11
ivor llewellyn-jones says on 21/Nov/11
Many people refer to John Wayne as being 6ft 4" this is incorrect. In the film "The man who shot Liberty Valence" he stands an inch shorter than James Stewart, who is 6ft 3". In the film "The defeated" he stands 2 inches shorter than Rock Hudson, who is 6ft 4". So J.W. is in fact 6ft 2". Which is still tall. He was also known to wear 2" lifts in his shoes, to ensure he towered over tall actors. Why the preoccupation with height...he was great. Now 2 very tall actors were Clint Walker and James Arness who were both 6ft 7".No one was taller than them.
By your logic Wayne can only have been the bare 6'0''. Add 2'' lift Wayne 1 inch shorter than JS.
1 thing is for sure Ivor, Wayne stood over 6'' taller than Ron Howard in his final film 'The Shootist'. He was barefoot while Howard (5'9'') was wearing boots in a full body shot (very important) of both. This means Wayne was 6'4'' at 68 years of age. No lifts in the feet
ivor llewellyn-jones says on 21/Nov/11
Many people refer to John Wayne as being 6ft 4" this is incorrect. In the film "The man who shot Liberty Valence" he stands an inch shorter than James Stewart, who is 6ft 3". In the film "The defeated" he stands 2 inches shorter than Rock Hudson, who is 6ft 4". So J.W. is in fact 6ft 2". Which is still tall. He was also known to wear 2" lifts in his shoes, to ensure he towered over tall actors. Why the preoccupation with height...he was great. Now 2 very tall actors were Clint Walker and James Arness who were both 6ft 7".No one was taller than them.
By your logic Wayne can only have been the bare 6'0''. Add 2'' lift Wayne 1 inch shorter than JS.
1 thing is for sure Ivor, Wayne stood over 6'' taller than Ron Howard in his final film 'The Shootist'. He was barefoot while Howard (5'9'') was wearing boots in a full body shot (very important) of both. This means Wayne was 6'4'' at 68 years of age. No lifts in the feet
Mike said on 21/Nov/11
Hudson was 6'5. He towered over 6'2 Peter Breck in an ep of McMillon and Wife. Breck, himself, told me he was 6'2, many years back.
Hudson was 6'5. He towered over 6'2 Peter Breck in an ep of McMillon and Wife. Breck, himself, told me he was 6'2, many years back.
Henrik said on 21/Nov/11
I thought Wayne looked 6'3" in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. He and 6'1.5" (?) Lee Marvin looked to be pretty eye to eye, Wayne being a hair taller without Marvin's camera angle advantage.
I thought Wayne looked 6'3" in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. He and 6'1.5" (?) Lee Marvin looked to be pretty eye to eye, Wayne being a hair taller without Marvin's camera angle advantage.
ivor llewellyn-jones said on 21/Nov/11
Many people refer to John Wayne as being 6ft 4" this is incorrect. In the film "The man who shot Liberty Valence" he stands an inch shorter than James Stewart, who is 6ft 3". In the film "The defeated" he stands 2 inches shorter than Rock Hudson, who is 6ft 4". So J.W. is in fact 6ft 2". Which is still tall. He was also known to wear 2" lifts in his shoes, to ensure he towered over tall actors. Why the preoccupation with height...he was great. Now 2 very tall actors were Clint Walker and James Arness who were both 6ft 7".No one was taller than them.
Many people refer to John Wayne as being 6ft 4" this is incorrect. In the film "The man who shot Liberty Valence" he stands an inch shorter than James Stewart, who is 6ft 3". In the film "The defeated" he stands 2 inches shorter than Rock Hudson, who is 6ft 4". So J.W. is in fact 6ft 2". Which is still tall. He was also known to wear 2" lifts in his shoes, to ensure he towered over tall actors. Why the preoccupation with height...he was great. Now 2 very tall actors were Clint Walker and James Arness who were both 6ft 7".No one was taller than them.
Shaun said on 12/Nov/11
JOdie Gelker says on 5/Nov/11
What a bunch of dopes....the Duke was 6'4" and try to remember that the film industry is NOT REALITY.
Richard Widmark and many other smaller actors had "help" In the old days in Hollywood many times there were trenches dug to assure movement of the taller actor with shorties. Meg Ryan will not allow other blonds in a scene for years....so she sparkled (as if she didn't just being herself. I was skiing with twin sons -age 9 at the time_ in Aspen in late 90's...the Governador happened to be skiing down at the same time. I am 5'9" and in ski boots and skis he wasn't a whole lot taller than me. I was shocked! POINT?! FILM IS DECEIVING. ++++ why do people think minimizing our heros makes them larger? Sad!
Exactly, and it would be rare for a star in Hollywood to claim their exact barefoot messurement, especially for an actor who made a living which thrived on his man mountain image. If he was 6 ft 4 barefeet it was morning height I agree with Henrik.
JOdie Gelker says on 5/Nov/11
What a bunch of dopes....the Duke was 6'4" and try to remember that the film industry is NOT REALITY.
Richard Widmark and many other smaller actors had "help" In the old days in Hollywood many times there were trenches dug to assure movement of the taller actor with shorties. Meg Ryan will not allow other blonds in a scene for years....so she sparkled (as if she didn't just being herself. I was skiing with twin sons -age 9 at the time_ in Aspen in late 90's...the Governador happened to be skiing down at the same time. I am 5'9" and in ski boots and skis he wasn't a whole lot taller than me. I was shocked! POINT?! FILM IS DECEIVING. ++++ why do people think minimizing our heros makes them larger? Sad!
Exactly, and it would be rare for a star in Hollywood to claim their exact barefoot messurement, especially for an actor who made a living which thrived on his man mountain image. If he was 6 ft 4 barefeet it was morning height I agree with Henrik.
JOdie Gelker said on 5/Nov/11
What a bunch of dopes....the Duke was 6'4" and try to remember that the film industry is NOT REALITY.
Richard Widmark and many other smaller actors had "help" In the old days in Hollywood many times there were trenches dug to assure movement of the taller actor with shorties. Meg Ryan will not allow other blonds in a scene for years....so she sparkled (as if she didn't just being herself. I was skiing with twin sons -age 9 at the time_ in Aspen in late 90's...the Governador happened to be skiing down at the same time. I am 5'9" and in ski boots and skis he wasn't a whole lot taller than me. I was shocked! POINT?! FILM IS DECEIVING. ++++ why do people think minimizing our heros makes them larger? Sad!
What a bunch of dopes....the Duke was 6'4" and try to remember that the film industry is NOT REALITY.
Richard Widmark and many other smaller actors had "help" In the old days in Hollywood many times there were trenches dug to assure movement of the taller actor with shorties. Meg Ryan will not allow other blonds in a scene for years....so she sparkled (as if she didn't just being herself. I was skiing with twin sons -age 9 at the time_ in Aspen in late 90's...the Governador happened to be skiing down at the same time. I am 5'9" and in ski boots and skis he wasn't a whole lot taller than me. I was shocked! POINT?! FILM IS DECEIVING. ++++ why do people think minimizing our heros makes them larger? Sad!
Henrik said on 23/Oct/11
6'4" in the morning.
6'3"-6'3.5" in the afternoon/evening.
6'4" in the morning.
6'3"-6'3.5" in the afternoon/evening.
marcus said on 21/Oct/11
I just saw two pictures with Wayne and Cooper together. The one w/Wayne wearing the cowboy hat. The other looks like Cooper visiting Wayne on a movie set where Wayne is wearing a naval uniform. Cooper was clearly looked taller I know Wayne was definitely 6'4" I am inclined to believe Cooper was taller than 6'3" We are taught in school that Lincoln was 6'4 and Washington was 6'3" but both their heights recorded after death were 6'3 3/4" Some tall people prefer to down play how tall they are. Perhaps this was the case with Cooper.
I just saw two pictures with Wayne and Cooper together. The one w/Wayne wearing the cowboy hat. The other looks like Cooper visiting Wayne on a movie set where Wayne is wearing a naval uniform. Cooper was clearly looked taller I know Wayne was definitely 6'4" I am inclined to believe Cooper was taller than 6'3" We are taught in school that Lincoln was 6'4 and Washington was 6'3" but both their heights recorded after death were 6'3 3/4" Some tall people prefer to down play how tall they are. Perhaps this was the case with Cooper.
Shaun said on 17/Oct/11
Darryle Knowles (Aus) says on 13/Oct/11
6'4" my arse. 6'1" at most. In The Alamo standing next to Richard Widmark (Jim Bowie) it is clear he is no more than 3" taller. Shoulder to shoulder - eye to eye. Certainly not 6". Richard Widmark was 5'10" But whatever his height - a terrific actor deserving higher than 13th All Time Film Legends.
Well he could look 6'2" at times. Legit 6'6" Alan Napier had four inches on him in Big Jim McLean and he did not look anywhere nearer a legit 6'4" in The Big Trail. But in an awful amount of movies including his barefoot scenes with that 5;9,5" in shoes guy he certainly looked 6'4" range. I think he had two inches on Marvin though who was not under 6'1.5".
Darryle Knowles (Aus) says on 13/Oct/11
6'4" my arse. 6'1" at most. In The Alamo standing next to Richard Widmark (Jim Bowie) it is clear he is no more than 3" taller. Shoulder to shoulder - eye to eye. Certainly not 6". Richard Widmark was 5'10" But whatever his height - a terrific actor deserving higher than 13th All Time Film Legends.
Well he could look 6'2" at times. Legit 6'6" Alan Napier had four inches on him in Big Jim McLean and he did not look anywhere nearer a legit 6'4" in The Big Trail. But in an awful amount of movies including his barefoot scenes with that 5;9,5" in shoes guy he certainly looked 6'4" range. I think he had two inches on Marvin though who was not under 6'1.5".
Henrik said on 17/Oct/11
Patrick:
Yes, Americans used to be taller than many European countries. But weren't the older American average heights shorter than modern American average height as well? I read that it was 5'8" in 1960, 5'10" today.
Patrick:
Yes, Americans used to be taller than many European countries. But weren't the older American average heights shorter than modern American average height as well? I read that it was 5'8" in 1960, 5'10" today.
shaky38 said on 16/Oct/11
duke says 6ft 4.5 in the quiet man?? steal and iron michaelen steal and iron!!!!!
duke says 6ft 4.5 in the quiet man?? steal and iron michaelen steal and iron!!!!!
Darryle Knowles (Aus) said on 13/Oct/11
6'4" my arse. 6'1" at most. In The Alamo standing next to Richard Widmark (Jim Bowie) it is clear he is no more than 3" taller. Shoulder to shoulder - eye to eye. Certainly not 6". Richard Widmark was 5'10" But whatever his height - a terrific actor deserving higher than 13th All Time Film Legends.
6'4" my arse. 6'1" at most. In The Alamo standing next to Richard Widmark (Jim Bowie) it is clear he is no more than 3" taller. Shoulder to shoulder - eye to eye. Certainly not 6". Richard Widmark was 5'10" But whatever his height - a terrific actor deserving higher than 13th All Time Film Legends.
Henrik said on 8/Oct/11
It is interesting how Hollywood has changed its height ideal from time to time. I'm surprised at how tall the actors back in the day were, when the average height in fact was lower than today. John Wayne 6'4", Clint Eastwood 6'4", Gary Cooper 6'3", Rock Hudson 6'5" and Lee Van Cleef 6'2".
Nowadays, most Hollywood actors seem to be about average height, or even below average. It feels like actors 6'3" and over often get to be typecasted as the "monster characters", bouncers and "dumb henchmen" of the main villains, lol.
It is interesting how Hollywood has changed its height ideal from time to time. I'm surprised at how tall the actors back in the day were, when the average height in fact was lower than today. John Wayne 6'4", Clint Eastwood 6'4", Gary Cooper 6'3", Rock Hudson 6'5" and Lee Van Cleef 6'2".
Nowadays, most Hollywood actors seem to be about average height, or even below average. It feels like actors 6'3" and over often get to be typecasted as the "monster characters", bouncers and "dumb henchmen" of the main villains, lol.
ted said on 19/Sep/11
His last driving licence still current when he died says 6'4" and 245 pounds. He was a BIG man.
His last driving licence still current when he died says 6'4" and 245 pounds. He was a BIG man.
john said on 18/Sep/11
In 1952 John Wayne played alongside Rober Ryan, who was 6'4",in Flying Leathernecks. When the two of them were facing each other in dialogue their was'nt a hairsbredth between the two actors heights.
In 1952 John Wayne played alongside Rober Ryan, who was 6'4",in Flying Leathernecks. When the two of them were facing each other in dialogue their was'nt a hairsbredth between the two actors heights.
Nails said on 10/Sep/11
In the movie McLintock he starred with his son Patrick. Patrick is listed as 6'-2". Marion was 56 years old and clearly stood two inches taller than his son on screen. Dis he were lifts? Was every scene doctored? Assumption is that he is clearly 6'-4" we do not get taller as we age, he was a big amn and comments that he was 6'-1" is ridiculous.
In the movie McLintock he starred with his son Patrick. Patrick is listed as 6'-2". Marion was 56 years old and clearly stood two inches taller than his son on screen. Dis he were lifts? Was every scene doctored? Assumption is that he is clearly 6'-4" we do not get taller as we age, he was a big amn and comments that he was 6'-1" is ridiculous.
Warthog said on 4/Sep/11
This is somewhat off-topic, but about six months ago I thought it would be cool to get a John Wayne movie from Netflix. I don't recall now whether it was 'Rio Bravo' or another of his movies, but I was disappointed in the movie's 'veracity' in that the movie supposedly was set in the 1860's, perhaps after the Civil War, but the rifles used were 1893 Winchesters, which hadn't been invented at that time. A small thing, I suppose, but noticeable to the average gun nut.
On the original topic, who really gives a rat's a$$ whether John Wayne was 6'-3" or 6'-4 1/2"??? Whatever his height was he was a great actor!
This is somewhat off-topic, but about six months ago I thought it would be cool to get a John Wayne movie from Netflix. I don't recall now whether it was 'Rio Bravo' or another of his movies, but I was disappointed in the movie's 'veracity' in that the movie supposedly was set in the 1860's, perhaps after the Civil War, but the rifles used were 1893 Winchesters, which hadn't been invented at that time. A small thing, I suppose, but noticeable to the average gun nut.
On the original topic, who really gives a rat's a$$ whether John Wayne was 6'-3" or 6'-4 1/2"??? Whatever his height was he was a great actor!
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 4/Sep/11
Somewhere between 6"3-6"4, like 192cm.
Somewhere between 6"3-6"4, like 192cm.
Carl said on 31/Aug/11
6ft 4.5ins Fact
6ft 4.5ins Fact
Shaun said on 26/Aug/11
Did not look a hair about 6'2" in the Big Trail.
Did not look a hair about 6'2" in the Big Trail.
thebad7 said on 26/Aug/11
@AZ Mink: What a joke. This is even better than the nonsense posted on the Eastwood page. I've seen some pretty lame estimates for The Duke, but yours takes the cake for lunacy. 6'1" barefoot? Run along...
The Duke was a big, tall man and he remained so even towards the end of his life. And NO--I don't believe he ever wore lifts. The man stacked up evenly against legit 6'4" actors like Woody Strode and Robert Ryan. Furthermore, I just watched him most recently in 1962's THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE. He had about an inch on 6'3" Jimmy Stewart, and an inch plus change on 6'2" - 6'2 1/2" Lee Van Cleef. Even in sneakers or dress shoes, the Duke still towered over just about everybody. If anybody was truly larger than life, it was John Wayne.
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@AZ Mink: What a joke. This is even better than the nonsense posted on the Eastwood page. I've seen some pretty lame estimates for The Duke, but yours takes the cake for lunacy. 6'1" barefoot? Run along...
The Duke was a big, tall man and he remained so even towards the end of his life. And NO--I don't believe he ever wore lifts. The man stacked up evenly against legit 6'4" actors like Woody Strode and Robert Ryan. Furthermore, I just watched him most recently in 1962's THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE. He had about an inch on 6'3" Jimmy Stewart, and an inch plus change on 6'2" - 6'2 1/2" Lee Van Cleef. Even in sneakers or dress shoes, the Duke still towered over just about everybody. If anybody was truly larger than life, it was John Wayne.
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Legend said on 25/Aug/11
I might believe AZmink if he had a picture. Even then, ground level can make someone appear much shorter or taller.
I might believe AZmink if he had a picture. Even then, ground level can make someone appear much shorter or taller.
AZmink said on 24/Aug/11
We have a picture of John Wayne and my uncle together down in Mexico on a boat fishing in about 1965. He is not taller than 6'1" in his bare feet period. Toe to toe with my uncle.
We have a picture of John Wayne and my uncle together down in Mexico on a boat fishing in about 1965. He is not taller than 6'1" in his bare feet period. Toe to toe with my uncle.
TRIPLE HHH said on 22/Aug/11
adam 2 you again are a Clown. Wayne was 6'3 Barefoot.
adam 2 you again are a Clown. Wayne was 6'3 Barefoot.
adam 2 said on 20/Aug/11
Wayne looked very tall in his "own" films by which I mean Batjac production and John Ford films. In THE LONGEST DAY which was an all-star film and he was not in charge he looked about 6-2 because he didnt have a change to wear his lifts.
Wayne looked very tall in his "own" films by which I mean Batjac production and John Ford films. In THE LONGEST DAY which was an all-star film and he was not in charge he looked about 6-2 because he didnt have a change to wear his lifts.
Mon said on 8/Aug/11
Certainly Wayne was far more solidly built than other actors of comparable height, but I think R. Mitchum takes first prize for being broad shouldered.
ALL I'm saying is that by the late sixties he had lost some height. I don't doubt he was 6'4'' in his prime.
Wayne can't have still have stood 6'4 in his sixties. It is just not credible.
Certainly Wayne was far more solidly built than other actors of comparable height, but I think R. Mitchum takes first prize for being broad shouldered.
ALL I'm saying is that by the late sixties he had lost some height. I don't doubt he was 6'4'' in his prime.
Wayne can't have still have stood 6'4 in his sixties. It is just not credible.
Patrick said on 8/Aug/11
I just watched Reap the Wild Wind and as usual, and I would go so far as to say that especially in his “young” days, i.e. his forties, he towered everybody not only in height but in width! It seems that any other actor had “”shoulders next to him. No bodybuilding, no special training; just a “nature” and that’s it.
Let alone his phenomenal presence and the incredible goodness of his look which was his “trademark”.
Just a huge giant in this film, Harry Woods, is able to make him look a bit shorter and less broad shouldered than him!
Yet, tall actors as was Raymond Massey and even Ray Milland (they are not in this site!) seem shorter than Wayne and lightweights.As for cow boy boots…in westerns, even those who wore city costumes used to wear high heel boots at least in the movies. The reality could be different!
So, all the actors got the same “advantage” which as result, put them on equal footing.
I just watched Reap the Wild Wind and as usual, and I would go so far as to say that especially in his “young” days, i.e. his forties, he towered everybody not only in height but in width! It seems that any other actor had “”shoulders next to him. No bodybuilding, no special training; just a “nature” and that’s it.
Let alone his phenomenal presence and the incredible goodness of his look which was his “trademark”.
Just a huge giant in this film, Harry Woods, is able to make him look a bit shorter and less broad shouldered than him!
Yet, tall actors as was Raymond Massey and even Ray Milland (they are not in this site!) seem shorter than Wayne and lightweights.As for cow boy boots…in westerns, even those who wore city costumes used to wear high heel boots at least in the movies. The reality could be different!
So, all the actors got the same “advantage” which as result, put them on equal footing.
guyfrommars said on 6/Aug/11
Of course he wore cowboy boots - because he acted in westerns... And chain-smoking lowers someone's voice. Wayne was a heavy smoker in his whole life.
Of course he wore cowboy boots - because he acted in westerns... And chain-smoking lowers someone's voice. Wayne was a heavy smoker in his whole life.
Mon said on 5/Aug/11
Ryan looks to have a good inch in other scenes of that film (through Ryan may have been over 6'4'') I think the evidence suggests Wayne was no taller than 6'3'' & 1/2 by that time it is quite possible he was a full 6'4'' in his youth.
Cowboy boots have higher heels than other footwear. Virtually ALL actors lower their voices. ( except for Robert Mitchum who had to raise his)
Ryan looks to have a good inch in other scenes of that film (through Ryan may have been over 6'4'') I think the evidence suggests Wayne was no taller than 6'3'' & 1/2 by that time it is quite possible he was a full 6'4'' in his youth.
Cowboy boots have higher heels than other footwear. Virtually ALL actors lower their voices. ( except for Robert Mitchum who had to raise his)
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