How tall was John Wayne

John Wayne's Height

6ft 3.75in (192.4 cm)

American actor best remembered for starring in films like The Searchers, True Grit, The Quiet Man, Stagecoach, Fort Apache, Rio Grande, Rio Bravo, The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance, The Alamo and The Green Berets.
Height: 6ft 3 and 3/4. Weight: 212 pounds - Wayne's 1943 O.S.S application form
He wore lifts; everyone talked about it - Capucine
I did a movie with Duke and was very surprised to find out he had small feet and wore lifts and a corset. Hollywood is seldom what it seems. - Rock Hudson

How tall is John Wayne
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John Wayne was so tall they put me on an apple box in the studio where they shot the close-ups. - Red River co-star Colleen Gray
Wayne liked big guys; everyone was a midget to him. Smaller guys annoyed him. - Richard Widmark
Many people don't realize it, but John Wayne was once a very short young fellow. When he first went to Hollywood and wanted to play the role of a cowboy, he was so short he had to ride a collie that was disguised as a horse. - Columnist Mike Royko
John Wayne had four-inch lifts in his shoes. He had the overheads on his boat accommodated to fit him. He had a special roof put in his station wagon. . . . The son of a bitch, they probably buried him in his goddamn lifts. - Robert Mitchum

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Average Guess (47 Votes)
6ft 3.33in (191.3cm)
Rising - 174 cm said on 17/Aug/17
Hudson wouldn't wear lifts. It's extremely rare for anyone near his height to wear them. Not unprecedented, but very rare for obvious reasons, but it wouldn't be a man like Hudson who didn't like his height. I agree 1" loss seems a lot, but that's why I suspect Hudson was rounding up from 6'4.75" to 6'5" peak and rounding down from 6'4.25" to 6'4" current so a half inch loss by early 40s is possible. He repeated the same shrunk from 6'5" to 6'4" claim in 1981 or '82 LA Times joking that being on TV shrunk him. He met Reagan in 1984, iirc. Reagan would have been 72-73 so it's likely he was more 5'11.5", maybe 6'0" tops then and maybe didn't stand as well at that age so Hudson at a legit 6'4" would tower him. I don't doubt Wayne could have been 6'3.75" peak, but if he was, he shrunk below it by his 60s. 5'7" is too low for Ron Howard, but I also doubt he was ever 5'9". More 5'8"-5'8.5". Imo, Wayne had to be somewhere from 6'3" to 6'3.75" peak.
Unsub said on 14/Aug/17
5'11" is impossible,
James said on 14/Aug/17
Ron Howard is only 5'7".
Bruno said on 13/Aug/17
Maybe he wasn't, but can you explain why he is taller than JS in the 70s, taller than Mel Ferrer, dwarfs Ron Howard barefoot. Very little between him and Jim Hutton etc

I'd downgrade Wayne but then we must downgrade a lot of actors
James said on 13/Aug/17
Wayne actually had a bad back from the mid-1950s.
Franco said on 12/Aug/17
When wayne was in Lima at the Bolívar hotel i met him in the sauna room...he was, of course without shoes: 5'11" tall. With 4 inch lifters he was 6'3" Mitchum was Right of course.
James said on 12/Aug/17
Wayne can't have been 6'3.5" in 1969 as he had lost two ribs which would have affected his height.
Unsub 5'10 said on 11/Aug/17
Half an inch loss is reasonable at age 60 and a Little beyond. Some people still maintain their peak height at 63, I know quite a few of them. I guess Wayne lost very Little height, his posture was excellent, his back was straight. However, as we age, bones become more spongy, they tend to compress causing people to lose height, cartilage gets worn away and inch loss is a little too much at age 61-62 unless you have back problems: scoliosis, osteoarthritis, stenosis, etc.
Bruno said on 11/Aug/17
Also in pic is Yves Montand, he is listed as 6'1.5'' and Wayne has around 2.5-3" on him.
With possible footwear adv. He'd still have circa 2" on Yves.
Very unlikely Hudson had lost 1" at early - mid 40s. He towered over Ronnie Reagan in the 80s. Maybe he was wearing lifts by then?
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Aug/17
Actually, in that photo Wayne is at least an inch shorter than Rock, but I don't know how much height he's losing with posture. I agree with about 1.5" shorter in the Undefeated. But Wayne had a cowboy boot advantage in that film as well. Hudson had boots, but not cowboy boots. But the problem is Hudson had claimed he shrunk from 6'5" to 6'4" 2 years before the film. Like Arch, I think Hudson may have been a bit below 6'5" peak, say 195 cm and maybe rather than shrinking to a flat 6'4", he was 6'4.25" by that time, which is easier to believe than Hudson shrinking a full inch by his early 40s without knowing his injury history. But unless Hudson is lying about shrinking altogether then that would make Wayne closer to 6'2.5" if you give him even a conservative 1/4" footwear advantage. But Wayne was in his early 60s so it's highly possible he had shrunk an inch or so by that point. So it doesn't rule out Wayne at 6'3.75" peak, but unless Rock was outright lying about shrinking, Wayne wasn't more than about 6'2.5" or so and even if we give Rock a peak height of 6'4.75" and say he was still that height in 1969, Wayne would be around a flat 6'3" when you factor in his cowboy boots. It depends on how much Hudson's boots added. I know cowboy boots typically have a heel that will measure 1.75" give or take and give an actual 1.6", maybe 1.7" in height. I don't know how much Hudson's boots added. The heel really doesn't look that big to me so the 1/4" footwear difference may be too conservative.
Canson said on 9/Aug/17
Hudson was a 194-195 guy barefoot around 6'4.5
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 8/Aug/17
Hudson at 6ft6 barefoot is extreme.
Arch Stanton said on 7/Aug/17
Yes Bruno, in the film The Undefeated, Rock had about 1.5 on Wayne too.
Arch Stanton said on 7/Aug/17
Hudson wasn't 6'6 as he was shorter than Clint Walker, about 1.5 inches but Walker had cowboy boot advantage. Hudson was 6'5 ish. mostly likely a tad under. Wayne looked about 6'3.5 in comparison in that film.
Richard said on 5/Aug/17
Wayne was 6'3" in "The Undefeated".
Bruno said on 2/Aug/17
This is a good pic of Wayne and Rock, very little height difference. At most .5''. Now JW probably wearing cowboy boots and Rock shoes given Wayne at most 1" advantage. So combine both and at most Rock has 1.5" on JW.

So in my opinion Wayne stood min 6'3.5" in that photo. Rock at that age still 6'5" ish.
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Rising - 174 cm said on 1/Aug/17
1.75" heels are more typical for a cowboy boot, at least from my experience owning multiple pairs. The actual height gain will be a bit less than that. I don't recall seeing Wayne wear bigger heels than that either. I do agree Hudson had 1.5" tops on Wayne in The Undefeated, but it must be remembered Wayne had cowboy boots while Hudson had boots with a bit less heel than cowboy boots.
PLB said on 31/Jul/17
All of these comments of the heights of men around the magic 6'4" height forget that is Hollywood films there is a major penalty for being too tall. James Arness was the "Thing". He was lucky to get human parts. Clint Walker had a minor career - it was stunted because he wasn't. Paul Bettany is six four or more but lies about it. He doesn't want to be known as too tall. Alexander Skarsgard (Tarzan) is also six four or a bit more but also lies about his height.

In general if you are much over six four in Hollywood you play monsters. Six four is about the upper limit for human beings. Think of Jean Claude Van Dam - he's a midget who was cast as the first Predator. They recast it with a guy who was six nine. But You can't remember his name because he was never in another movie. Van Dam the stumpy guy, had a big career.
James said on 31/Jul/17
Stewart was 6'2.75" and Wayne was 6'3".
6'1" guy said on 30/Jul/17
I keep seeing "boots with big lifts" or "big boots", sounds like commenters have never wore boots or never measured their own height difference with boots. Just a friendly FYI, regular cowboy boots have 2" heels on them, period. That can make a man that is 2 honest inches shorter look the same height, or 4" shorter when the boot is on the other foot, lol. That's alot considering most pics submitted for evidence doesn't show footwear, IMHO should be disregarded. Also interesting little known fact that could play a roll, an inch is lost from wake time to sleep time, try it. Best regards. 😉
Unsub 5'10 said on 29/Jul/17
A barefoot John Wayne didn't look much shorter than a J.W wearing shoes. Like I said, In the Undefeated he looked 1.5" tops shorter than Hudson who might've bin 6'4.25" in 1969. So, he was nothing under 6'2.5 next to Hudson, most likely 1.89-90, 6'2.75" by that time. Likewise, in Swing out Sweet Land( 1970) he gave me the same height impression and looked a tad shorter than Blocker who was supposed to have been wearing moccasins throughout the movie. At age 62 the expected height loss may be one third of an inch, possibly half an inch... In Big Jim McLain he was 3.25-3.5 inches shorter than 6'6.5 Arness. Also, in the late forties the height difference between Stewart and Fonda was more noticeable than that of Wayne and Fonda. All of this leads me to think Wayne's peak should've been 6'3-6'3.25 and that of Stewart 6'3.75", Stewart didn't mind downgrading his height. In the Shootist, in 1976, by that time, Stewart had already lost more height than Wayne judging by his body posture, that's why Wayne possibly edged him out.
Rising - 174 cm said on 25/Jul/17
Doesn't make it correct. Hudson at his peak wasn't that much taller than Clint Eastwood in the 50s. Hudson had about 5 inches on Ronald Reagan in 1984. Depending on how tall you think Reagan was in 1984, you can estimate a 58 year old Rock Hudson from that. Hudson was definitely shorter than Clint Walker. Hudson actually claimed he was 6'4" in 1981, but claimed in the same interview that he had been 6'5" when he was younger.
Bruno said on 25/Jul/17
Wayne edges out Jimmy.
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James said on 25/Jul/17
Jack Scalia said a 55-year-old Hudson was 6'6" when they filmed "The Devlin Connection" in 1981.
Rising - 174 cm said on 23/Jul/17
I believe Wayne and Cooper would have been close, but no way there'd be a 2 inch difference in either way. Stewart I also think would have been the same range, but may have maintained his height a bit better than Wayne did into late 60s. Hudson was 6'5" at the very most, but a legitimate 6'4"-6'5" man is so towering, people will undoubtedly exaggerate at times and say he's 6'6".
James said on 20/Jul/17
I'm sorry. It's just that all of Wayne's war films were laughably bad, as soldiers made clear at the time.
Bruno said on 20/Jul/17
You don't see their feet in that shot James. I've always maintained JW, GC and JS were very close in height. Coop and Wayne about the same and Jimmy a smidgen less.
I think you need to stop castigating actors about how bad this or that film was James tnks.
James said on 20/Jul/17
Some people said Rock Hudson was 6'6", in which case Wayne at 6'3" may have worn 2 inch lifts to look more in line with him.

Gary Cooper looked taller than Wayne in the photograph from the set of that awful film "Operation Pacific" in 1950.
Rising - 174 cm said on 19/Jul/17
@Dan: No way Cooper had 2" on Wayne and Arness had 5". I've seen no decent photos for height comparisons of Wayne and Cooper in flat shoes. Arness is positioned closer to the camera here and still doesn't have near 5" on Wayne: Click Here

6'1" is not possible for Wayne. As for lifts, I've seen no actual evidence of it, but it's been mentioned so often I wouldn't completely discount it. But if Wayne did wear lifts, I'd have thought The Undefeated would have been the time to do it, but if he had wore lifts, he wouldn't have been about 1.5" shorter than Rock Hudson even with bigger heels.
James said on 19/Jul/17
Ten years isn't much difference, Ferrer was nearly 60 and could have lost an inch. It was so embarrassing watching Wayne try to copy Eastwood.
Bruno said on 18/Jul/17
10 years younger, and you get a good view of JW shoes. His foot isn't at an angle in his shoes. No lifts no way boss.

Look at Sing out sweet land in 1970, Wayne again in regular shoes, feet flat. Similar height to big Dan Blocker. No lifts no way.
James said on 18/Jul/17
Ferrer was only a few years younger than Wayne, and shoes with lifts are designed to look like ordinary shoes from the outside.
Bruno said on 14/Jul/17
Nah Wayne lost very little height. Brannigan75 Wayne edges out a much younger Mel Ferrer. Wearing regular shoes and no lifts. I posted a pic before.
Dan said on 10/Jul/17
Alex Mahone...Did you NOT notice that Hugh O'Brien is standing on a higher step than Chuck Connors in the picture you have??? Connors was certifiably 6'5"...any viewing of a Rifleman episode will make that obvious. He even dwarfed Richard Anderson on that show, and Anderson is listed as 6'3" or 6'4".
Dan said on 10/Jul/17
I loved John Wayne, but too many people here are caught up in their personal fondness for him to be realistic about his height. He was easily two inches shorter than Gary Cooper (who was 6'3" max.) when both had flat shoes. When he was presented with an award by James Arness, you can see Arness is a minimum of 5" taller. Bare feet, John Wayne was 6'1" max. If he was anything near 6'4" it'd be much more obvious.
RisingForce said on 8/Jul/17
As I post on Rock Hudson's page a while ago, watching The Undefeated, Hudson looked more than an inch taller than Wayne to me and Wayne's cowboy boots should have given him an advantage. Because of ground level, the ending where they drink with Rojas is the best to compare height. Here are a few screenshots: Click Here

If Hudson had really shrunk to 6'4" by that point, then Wayne was looking more like 6'2.5" by 1969, but it's possible Hudson was still closer to 6'5" and it's very possible that Wayne had shrunk more than Hudson considering he was nearly 2 decades older, heavier, almost as tall and a heavy drinker and smoker. But either way, Wayne by his early 60s seemed to be below 6'3.75", imo. I had thought he was 6'4" until the end because of The Shootist, but I now doubt Ron Howard was ever 5'9".
jervis said on 14/Jun/17
And he died a year later of cancer aged 72.
James said on 10/Jun/17
The photograph with Chuck Connors was taken in January 1978 so Wayne was 70 by then.
movieguy said on 7/Jun/17
I don't find the Connors photo although an interesting shot that helpful in guessing Wayne's height. They are standing too far apart to give an accurate estimate. Of course Connors is bigger but my how much it is hard to tell. As for Wayne not taking that big a shoe size it doesn't mean he was not tall. Big men tend to have large feet but it's not always the case. John Wayne was a mythical figure even by Hollywood standards so maybe the 6'4'' claim was an exaggeration but I doubt if he was much below this. I agree he probably wore lifts in his later films and always looked huge on film even if some of the actors he played alongside were bigger in real life.
Sixseven said on 29/May/17
You made an excellent point,Tim Linehan.
Tim Linehan said on 18/May/17
I dont know how to add a photo here but those listed below are not what i was referring to! I was disappointed when I saw the photo of John Wayne with no hat standing next to Chuck Connors. That did it for me as you can clearly see that John Wayne is not 6-4" or 6-3" for that matter ! My father and family were big fans and my father couldnt wait on vacation to stand in Waynes footprints cemented in Hollywood! My dad was 6-6 1/2 " and a smile came to his face when he saw the footprints but the smile was erased by a disappointing look! My father said- "Wait something isnt right? There is no way he is 6-4" with those little feet!" I grew up thinking he was this great big guy than over the years it became aparent it was just studio talk. The picture with Chuck Connors was final confirmation for me! I say After looking at every picture there was and comparing, as well as reading about the lifts my conclusion is- John Wayne was about 6-2" even and wore 2 inch lifts! All those athletic football measurements arent supportive evidence. Athletic coaches have always and still to this day listed their players as taller and heavier than they truly are!! Anyway its just disapointing as Wayne was this mythical Huge Man but its all movies gentleman. All hype ! Those that say they stood next to him and can confirm his real height could not look inside his shoe to measure the lifts! I really wanted John Wayne to be 6-4" or 6-5 " and prove to everybody its true bit its just not so.
AlexMahone said on 16/May/17
Tim, do you think for this picture?

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Here is the ground uneven, Hugh O'Brian looked taller than Connors as well. As to O'Brian height was in prime about 6'1".

Or do you think for this picture?

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Here is Connors much closer to the camera.

But this picture is interesting, Wayne with Gregory Peck.

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Their postures are not the best but here Peck looks a full 6'3" as Wayne as well.
Tim Linehan said on 15/May/17
Look on the internet at a picture of John Wayne standing next to Chuck Connors! Connors was measured at 6-5 and listed as 6-6 when he played for the Celtics. It is very very clear that John Wayne is at least 3-4 Inches shorter than Collins. After reading every comment and looking at every photo I am convinced John Wayne is about 6-2 and probably wore 2-3 inch heels at times. Please find that picture as it is very clear!
Arch Stanton said on 14/May/17
Yes Alex, Hudson looked about 1.5 inches taller in that film.
AlexMahone said on 12/May/17
In the 1969 movie The Undefeated Wayne played together with Rock Hudson. In some scenes Hudson 1-1.5 inches taller than Wayne but probably the ground was uneven and we can't see the footwear. But there are two interesting pictures here.

First this:

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I think Wayne has here a little footwear adavantage and Hudson slouching a lot. But in the second picture this height difference is more 1-2cm. Ok Hudson is closer tot the camera and maybe Wayne has a little footwear advantage as well.

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But if Wayne was only 191cm than Hudson never was 196 more flat 6'4" what I highly doubt. What do you think Rob?
Editor Rob: I can believe Hudson's own claim of losing a little height, John held up pretty well there.
Jug said on 22/Apr/17
He was probably really closer to 6'3. Even a 6'2 guy with a big frame can look 6'4, especially in cowboy boots (for sure with lifts in them). There is a picture of him with Gary Cooper at a resort with both men wearing flat slipper-like shoes. They look pretty much the same height, with Cooper possibly edging him out a little.
Hammer44 said on 20/Apr/17
I toured Universal Studios in 1981. The guide showed us doorways that were built purposely smaller to make him look bigger. He said, John Wayne stood on a box when face to face in a scene with Maurine Ohara (sp?) because she was 5'7, or 5'
If you see hit boot prints, and fist imprint in the sidewalk just outside Grohman's Chinese Theatre (sorry not positive on spelling) you'd question his celebrated size. In my opinion, I think he was actually about 6' and maybe 6'3/4"....from things I've read.
Gonzalo said on 15/Apr/17
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Christian-196.2cm (6ft5.25) said on 9/Apr/17
CMP said on 26/Mar/17
If he was 6'4"in height, why on earth would he wear 4" inserts in his shoes?

Canson said on 28/Mar/17
@CMP: crazy right? Makes him 6'7" not desired


Robert Mitchum was just stating a hyperbole. It's literally impossible to fit 4" thick inserts into a normal low-cut shoe. Anything over maybe 1.5" and your foot will slip out when you walk unless they're boots.
Thomas Veil said on 9/Apr/17
6'3, probably close to 6 foot with no footwear assistance
James said on 3/Apr/17
Hepburn did not like working with Wayne and said she was glad she didn't know him when he had two lungs.
Gonzalo said on 29/Mar/17
Lauren Bacall and Katharine Hepburn, both far from Wayne´s political opinions, said that working with Wayne was great. Cesar Romero said the same thing. And two gay actors, such as Rock Hudson and Tab Hunter, had the same opinion. Herés a quote about Wayne from Rock Hudson:

" John Wayne was then the Hollywood legend, and I was on screen with him. The guy is an angel. He saved my life back then when no other film maker wanted to know me."
Canson said on 28/Mar/17
@CMP: crazy right? Makes him 6'7" not desired
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 28/Mar/17
He looked 6ft2-3 range by the 70's. Looked exceptionally awful in his last public appearance.
Arch Stanton said on 28/Mar/17
Yes, that's right James of course. Yeah, that could have certainly made him grumpier/meaner than normal. Jill was quite hot, but yeah, in a few films she does come across as the moody type.
James said on 28/Mar/17
Wayne had lung cancer when he made "In Harm's Way" in 1964 so he wouldn't have been in a good mood.
Bruno said on 26/Mar/17
Just read a bit about Jill, she doesn't seem the nicest person.
CMP said on 26/Mar/17
If he was 6'4"in height, why on earth would he wear 4" inserts in his shoes?
Arch Stanton said on 25/Mar/17
I dislike Bob Mitchum and Tony Curtis. Mitchum looked plain nasty, and Curtis untrustworthy/seedy. Both were good actors though, Mitchum a great actor.
Arch Stanton said on 25/Mar/17
Jill Haworth, who was in In Harm's Way described Wayne as ""the meanest, nastiest man with the worst attitude I ever worked with". Yet he was Maureen O'Hara's best friend. Funny, the Duke in many ways is like marmite, you either love him or hate him. I like him, but I can see him being a bully and really mean at times. I guess having worked with John Ford for so long he had to be like that to survive him so probably stuck with him.
Yvonne said on 24/Mar/17
I grew up watching John Wayne I loved all of his films I really enjoyed the green beret and hell fighters he may have wore lifts but he was still a giant among men and a force of nature
Bruno said on 23/Mar/17
Wayne also said in interviews 6'4", but I suppose it's so close to 6'4" that he found it easier to say that.
Cobra said on 23/Mar/17
"Often billed as 6'4", although Wayne said his exact height was 6'3 3/4."

According to his IMDB page, not sure of the source.
James said on 19/Mar/17
The Quiet Man could never be made today.
Tom said on 17/Mar/17
John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara are my two favorite actors. The Quite Man well what else can yo say. One of the best movies of all time.
Johan said on 11/Mar/17
As listed, a guy like him wouldn't downgrade himself, he gave his height to the quarter inch ffs. As for the guys saying he never looked even 6'4" with lifts, I remember reading a paper where the journalist described him as 6'7"-6'8" with cowboyboots and hat ofc. LOL. Under 6'3".

"A huge man both of girth and height" Something along those lines.
Cal said on 18/Feb/17
James... you seem to have a thing for John Wayne. It's quite distracting from the rest of the conversation. Get well soon.
James said on 17/Feb/17
Ron Howard is 5'7". Why are you not posting this???
Editor Rob: James, you are on thin ground with the perpetual lift claims ☠️ quite a few folk have commented on it, and I would hope you reign it in a bit, thanks 👍
Bruno said on 13/Feb/17
Get me that photo James please, I'd love to see it. Ron Howard must be only 5'6" if so and if that is the case Henry Winkler wouldn't be much more than 5'3".
James said on 12/Feb/17
Wayne was less than 6'3" after he had two ribs removed in 1964. You can tell he was wearing lifts in "The Sons of Katie Elder" where he was very miscast.
Bruno said on 10/Feb/17
Ya see James the barefoot shot with 68yr Wayne and 22yr Ron Howard proves Wayne was around 193. Get me them pics of the lift wearing.
James said on 7/Feb/17
Four inch lifts don't actually make a person look four inches taller. Michael Landon wore four inch lifts throughout "Bonanza" and "Little House on the Prairie" yet still only looked 5'9" maximum.
James said on 7/Feb/17
Wayne was never 6'4". So many people said he wore lifts - Paul Picerni, Capucine, Robert Mitchum, Bobby Darin, Glen Campbell, Rock Hudson etc.
Importer said on 7/Feb/17
i meant 6'4 + 4inch..
Importer said on 7/Feb/17
6'4 with 4inch lifts? That must have been something in those days
James said on 7/Feb/17
Stewart looked taller in "The Man Who Shot Liberty valance" and he was wearing ordinary shoes while Wayne had boots with big heels.
meezemaker said on 6/Feb/17
Just watch that photograph with James Stewart while being around 70 years old both, an inch still less for Wayne. 188-189, and still an huge hat to look bigre.

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meezemaker said on 2/Feb/17
Always looks 4cm smaller than Rock Hudson...considering he had lifts, i guess 188 -189 cm.
meezemaker said on 1/Feb/17
The only way tout know his height is tout watch the scene in thé movie With the 5'5 ursula andress. Both barefoot. No way, no more than 8-9 inches difference.

This man who was hating small People was obsessed by looking very tall. He was probably not feeling confident at 188 cm...
James said on 29/Jan/17
That was the height his character claimed to be in "The Quiet Man".
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 27/Jan/17
I've seen 6ft4½(194cm) listings for Wayne
James said on 16/Jan/17
Lol, obviously Wayne wasn't going to say publicly that he hated Sinatra.

He liked Dean Martin but he never liked Sinatra. His public comments on "The Execution of Private Slovik" forced Sinatra to abandon the film, and caused embarrassment to the Kennedy campaign - as Wayne intended.
Mark(5'9.25 said on 14/Jan/17
@James Um dude, Wayne did like Sinatra.

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I'm not sure where you get the idea of Wayne having a big fight, but the quote where Wayne said "I like sinatra" is enough for me to disagree with you.
Mark(5'9.25 said on 14/Jan/17
@Arch Ohh! That makes sense now! I did look into this guy's pasted behind the scenes and that he wouldn't shoot people out of the blue in respect.

Edit* this guy was comfortably over 6'3" and nearer 6'4" when I watched his movie with Peak Clint Eastwood.
Mark(5'9.25 said on 14/Jan/17
@ArchbOhhh! That makes sense now! I did look into this guy's pasted behind the scenes and that he wouldn't shoot people out of the blue in respect.
James said on 11/Jan/17
He just gave 6'3.75" as his height, he never looked more than 6'3" even with lifts.
berta said on 10/Jan/17
well the height claim was very specific so that was probably his height and he looked it
James said on 8/Jan/17
Wayne didn't like Sinatra, he even forced Sinatra not to hire a blacklisted screenwriter.
Sandy Cowell said on 8/Jan/17
Oh no! It's happened again! I'll have to think of a suitable synonym. I'll have "giggle"! Let's hope it doesn't look like that unpronounceable word...👹🙊😖
Sandy Cowell said on 7/Jan/17
What on Earth has my autocorrect been up to now?
That insane and unpronounceable word was meant to be 'sfugoogle'!
I had to go on my vibrostation for 15 minutes on 43 (which is very fast indeed!) in order to give myself the good shaking up I needed when I read that! I've calmed down now, otherwise I might have even started this comment like so: "Oh ⚾🏉⚽🏈's? What on Earth has my autocorrect...?"
Well you catch my drift! There's nothing quite like a good shaking up at half-past-two in the morning! 🌇 😨🚿 🌆
Sandy Cowell said on 7/Jan/17
@ Arch Stanton - It must be unbelievably annoying when picking a fight with you becomes a mark of bravery! Reading that did afford me a
little sfugoogle!
No wonder Mr Wayne developed a mistrust for short guys if they were using him as some kind of benchmark!
I've never heard that he had to put up with that before, but it doesn't surprise me really!
mister_lennon said on 7/Jan/17
movieguy said on 6/Jan/17
I think the Widmark quote was made in jest. John Wayne always seemed to be the biggest guy in his films so probably preferred being around smaller people. It fitted with his image as the big strong cowboy. As for the height estimate I'd say under 6'4'' but probably not my much.
Arch Stanton said on 6/Jan/17
That would explain it though, so many little guys probably picked fights with Wayne and developed a mistrust for short people.
Arch Stanton said on 6/Jan/17
Mark(5'9.25 said on 27/Nov/16
Rob, he looks pretty tall, but it is mentioned that Wayne would hate small people. I probably wouldn't want to meet him.
Editor Rob: Mark, some men have a fear of smaller men and vice versa.

Animals put humans to shame at times, they don't give a damn what you look like.

Strange though, as a 6'4 guy shouldn't really have reason to dislike somebody just because they're not near their height. They would appreciate being very tall and that some people are shorter. If he disliked/distrusted shorter guys perhaps it was because hwen younger he had a lot of fight challenges from short/scrappy guys in bars. There are always a lot of those types who pick on big guys to try to prove their worth as a man. Perhaps Wayne faced a lot of Napoleon types, so developed a dislike for guys under 6 ft over time? I read that Wayne generally got on well with Frank Sinatra aside from one carpark incident, and Sinatra was 5'7.5 tops!
Bill said on 5/Jan/17
I met John Wayne on the set of The Alamo when I was sixteen years old and stood 6' 1" at the time. He was at least two inches taller than me and he was wearing Indian moccasins!
Mark(5'9.25") said on 16/Dec/16
In that case, I'm glad I did not meet Wayne in person because imagine him seeing a 5'9" person.

Edit* Like I said, I don't know much about the guy, but it seems like Wayne doesn't have any friends who are guys that are 5'9" or lower. Since I haven't checked out his movie, I'm going to end it here since everyone here knows about him more so than I do.
Mark(5'9.25") said on 16/Dec/16
In that case, I'm glad I did not meet Wayne in person because imagine him seeing a 5'9" person.

Edit* Like I said, I don't know much about the guy, but it seems like Wayne doesn't have any guys who are 5'9" or lower. Since I haven't checked out his movie, I'm going to end it here since everyone here knows about him more so than I do.
Mark(5'9.25") said on 16/Dec/16
In that case, I'm glad I did not meet Wayne in person because imagine him seeing a 5'9" person.
James said on 8/Dec/16
Richard Widmark said small guys made Wayne angry.
Bruno said on 6/Dec/16
Mark(5'9.25 said on 27/Nov/16
Rob, he looks pretty tall, but it is mentioned that Wayne would hate small people. I probably wouldn't want to meet him.

Who posts this rubbish.
Mark(5'9.25 said on 1/Dec/16
You have a point Rob. While I wouldn't want to detest humanity like that, I do agree that some people are prideful and mean.
Mark(5'9.25 said on 27/Nov/16
Rob, he looks pretty tall, but it is mentioned that Wayne would hate small people. I probably wouldn't want to meet him.
Editor Rob: Mark, some men have a fear of smaller men and vice versa.

Animals put humans to shame at times, they don't give a damn what you look like.
LoganNoll1996 said on 9/Nov/16
tex, Wayne was slightly taller than Tyrone Power Sr. But he was wearing flats to Tyrone's boots(big ones I might add).

Nice try though.
Bruno said on 5/Nov/16
Ah Text the lift obsessed poster is back hurrah.
tex said on 3/Nov/16
Paul Picerni, the great character actor said in his book that Wayne wore lifts, so did Bobby Darin, Rock Hudson, Capucine and even Ron Howard. So many have said Wayne wore lifts-it has to be true. If you watch him as a young man in the Big Trail with Tyrone Power Sr., who was listed at 6'1", Wayne is not really taller.
James said on 3/Nov/16
Wayne was 6'3" at his peak.
Mark said on 2/Nov/16
Either way, this guy looked an honest 6'3.75". if he wanted to round up, he can since 6'3.75" isn't far off 6'4".
Arch Stanton said on 21/Oct/16
Clint and Wayne always looked the exact same height to me on screen.
Mark said on 19/Oct/16
Rob, I don't know much about this guy, but who he measure taller than Peak Clint Eastwood and be similar to Lee Pace who i consider a full 6'4"
Editor Rob: I think Wayne was honest with the 6ft 3.75 claim..naturally any other occasion you'd round it to 6ft 4, I think Clint was similar, a bit shy of 6ft 4.
James said on 16/Oct/16
He never injured his shoulder, that was just a story.
James said on 16/Oct/16
Actually, Wayne did always wear a wig in public after 1960, except at Gary Cooper's funeral and when he visited Vietnam in 1966. He said it was so fans wouldn't be disappointed.
LoganNoll1996 said on 14/Oct/16
Now you're just talking rubbish, James. He DID have a football career in High School and USC before he injured his shoulder during a body-surfing accident. As to whether or not they measured him can be open to speculation. Would either of those places he attended even still have his measurements/statistics?
newbie said on 14/Oct/16
Whilst some of the lifts comments can be dismissed I think there are answers to some of the others. As has been pointed out, his height seemed to go above 6'3-6'4 range but never below it. So if anything he wore lifts when wanting to add to that not reach it. If we're going to believe the 'he refused to work with x' stories then I'll assume we're also going to have to believe the ones about the number of big guys, much bigger than him, e.g. James Arness, he continually wanted to work with. And he didn't have a problem with being shorter than guys like Arness and Hudson, so the idea he wore lifts out of vanity doesn't stack up. It is also well known that the hair piece was just for films and he didn't wear it in his normal life, preferring hats and didn't have an issue with people knowing he was bald either. Harry Carey Jr covered the walk in his book about the John Ford stock company and it was invented for Wayne by someone else, early in his leading man career, long before suggestions of lifts and was designed to give him a kind of strut/stalking walk because he struggled to be comfortable walking on film and presenting the right image doing it. It is quite possible that he wore lifts when working with other actors he knew were wearing them, to emphasise the height difference again. He also wore them to draw away from the fact he no longer had the shape of body to give the impression he wanted. The Ron Howard photo, where there is direct comparison, with bare feet etc is about as much proof as anyone should need of his height near the end of his life and he wasn't getting taller at that stage. Or are people going to suggest the man had lifts stitched under his skin? Later in life when he was struggling to be the imposing character he'd become he may have been wearing lifts, but there is the bare foot and earlier beach shoes evidence from earlier in his life that he wasn't far off a genuine 6'4 man. As for Mitchum's comments, aside from anything else this was a guy who gave his own height at 6'0 because he didn't have a clue but knew he was above average and 6'0 sounded right. The photos of Wayne and Stewart constantly show that slight edge from early years into the end and the way that stayed pretty much consistent throughout would be difficult for him to have balanced his own and Stewart's loss of height with lifts that maintained a constant difference. Again the evidence is there that he probably was around 6'4 at his peak.
James said on 11/Oct/16
They might not have actually measured him. I heard he dodged being drafted into the football team.
Don said on 10/Oct/16
We keep seeing all of this guessing about his height. Hasn't anyone ever thought of checking his college football stats? Wouldn't they have a true record of height and weight?
CNROM89 said on 5/Oct/16
Rob, what dou you think about average shoe size for a 6'4 guy?

I am 6'4 (193.1 at night) and ı wear 12 UK. İs it normal?
Editor Rob: yeah you might find a 11.5-12UK a more typical shoe size for 6ft 3-4 men.
Borats Chicken said on 4/Oct/16
'he had small feet'

Rob, possible for a man whos near 6'4 to have size 10.5 or 11 1/2 to 12?
Editor Rob: yeah some big guys have small feet
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 25/Sep/16
He could look just 6ft3 at times also
Arch Stanton said on 28/Aug/16
When I say Harry Cohn and George Raft were more hated in Hollywood, I mean by people in the industry, literally IN Hollywood. Both would have been more widely disliked that Wayne inside Hollywood.
Tyler said on 25/Aug/16
Wayne had not had several ribs removed in 1945.
Tom said on 23/Aug/16
It's foolish to even imagine him wearing lifts. Watch They Where Expendable. Wayne towers over 6' Robert Montgomery.
Disco1964 said on 21/Aug/16
This is what I found about the height of John Wayne

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6'4" and 240 Ibs
Diana 107 said on 19/Aug/16
What difference does it make whether or not Wayne wore lifts? He was a "giant" of men! He brought acting to great "heights",
James said on 5/Aug/16
It's a different "Tom".
LoganNoll1996 said on 30/Jul/16
So what finally convinced you Wayne was 6'3.75" - 6'4", Tom?
Tom said on 21/Jul/16
Great photos! Thanks Gonzalo.
Gonzalo said on 20/Jul/16
Click Here

I don´t think Wayne wore lifts on his wedding day. Looks tall to me

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Wayne and Sidney Poitier. I guess Wayne has ground advantage. Wayne without his rug.

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Wayne and John Ford. Beautiful picture

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Tom said on 19/Jul/16
James, give it up. You're full of it.
James said on 19/Jul/16
You can tell Wayne was wearing lifts in "The Sons of Katie Elder" in the long shot of him walking towards the camera.

Kirk Douglas wasn't actually that complimentary about Wayne until long after his death. He only worked with him because his career had declined so much after "Spartacus".
Tom said on 18/Jul/16
James, you might be able to tell, but no one else can.

George Raft was hated by those who worked with him. Kirk Douglas, God bless him, was not very popular with those he worked with because he was reportedly a pain to work with. But Douglas, a very strong liberal Democrat, really respected Wayne. The two worked well together. Wayne had the highest respect for Douglas who is amazing. The man will probably live to be 100! I had the pleasure of meeting him many years ago when he was signing a book he wrote. He was extremely nice.
James said on 18/Jul/16
Most people outside Hollywood had never heard of Cohn. Wayne was the most hated man in Hollywood due to his support for the illegal US involvement in an unwinnable war in Vietnam.
Arch Stanton said on 18/Jul/16
Harry Cohn and George Raft would have been more widely disliked than Wayne!!
James said on 17/Jul/16
You could tell Wayne was wearing lifts in "The Sons of Katie Elder".
James said on 17/Jul/16
As California recently voted not to commemorate John Wayne due to his racist views I don't see how you can pretend he was not a very controversial figure. Most young people in the 1960s and 1970s hated him.
Tom said on 16/Jul/16
James is ignorant. If Wayne was the most hated person outside Hollywood, then how come he ranked at the top for drawing people into movie theaters? And for decades! As for being hated the most in Hollywood, that's utter nonsense. He was extremely well liked. But more importantly, he was respected.

James, do us all a big favor by taking your political views to a political forum. Politics has nothing to do with a person's height.
James said on 15/Jul/16
He lost height as he aged, especially after having a lung and two ribs removed.
Tom said on 14/Jul/16
It's silly to believe a man close to or at 6-4 would wear lifts.
Bruno said on 13/Jul/16
James said on 11/Jul/16
Wayne was actually the most hated person in Hollywood.

I think sir you need for your own sake to stop posting here. We get it that you don't like the Big Fella.
Tom said on 13/Jul/16
Lifts are not invisible. In order to have a padded insert, the sides of the shoe must be higher, sometimes by an inch or more. The angle of the foot changes.
James said on 13/Jul/16
Most people outside Hollywood had never heard of Curtiz or Cohn, but they knew Wayne. His infamous support for blacklisting, McCarthy, the Iranian and Guatemalan coup d'etats, the Korean War, the Bay of Pigs invasion, the Vietnam War, Nixon, the Watergate coverup etc ensured he was hated more than any other movie actor.
Arch Stanton said on 13/Jul/16
The Sons of Katie Elder is another Wayne film where he looked taller than 6'4. In some scenes in that he looked more 6'5-6'6. Dean Martin wore lifts in that film, I suspect that most of the cast did.
Arch Stanton said on 13/Jul/16
In his films where he wore dress shoes, I've never seen any evidence of Wayne wearing lifts. I certainly don't think he was a habitual lift wearer, but as I say, in some westerns I do think it's possible he had an extra boost. As I say he made Dean Martin look 5 ft 8 range in some scenes in Rio Bravo and in the Fighting Kentuckian made 5'11.5-6' Oliver Hardy look 5'10.5-5'11. He looked 6 ft 5 with Oliver Hardy. And Dean Martin usually wore lifts in his films, most of the films of his I've seen he's obviously wearing lifts. You can't say that about Wayne.
Arch Stanton said on 13/Jul/16
"Tom said on 10/Jul/16
John Wayne never wore lifts. "

How can you be so certain? I've not seen any PROOF that Wayne wore lifts, but we also can't be certain he didn't boost his height in s few films. A lot of actors wore lift cowboy boots in westerns to look more imposing. It's not impossible that Wayne wore bigger boots in some films to look even bigger. Doesn't really matter. The point is that he was genuinely close to 6'4 legitimately.
Tom said on 12/Jul/16
You're proof, James?

I believe lots of people were hated more. Take director Michael Curtiz. He was despised by most actors who worked in one of the many features he directed. And no one was more hated than Columbia Pictures chief Harry Cohn.
James said on 12/Jul/16
Lifts are invisible on the outside. No photographs were allowed of Wayne breathing through an oxygen mask after 1964, or riding a trailer when his stunt double rode over a fence at the end of "True Grit".
James said on 11/Jul/16
Wayne was actually the most hated person in Hollywood.
Tom said on 10/Jul/16
John Wayne never wore lifts. It started out as a joke that was taken to extreme levels of lunacy by people who couldn't stand his politics. And which director said he wore lifts? Show us proof. And please post photos showing him wearing lifts. You'll discover you can't because they don't exist. And no, there is no such thing as invisible lifts.
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jul/16
Wayne genuinely was near 6'4 I think, I've seen probably 75% of his films and looked it in every film except The Big Trail. But given that a major part of his image was being a man mountain figure, I do believe that in some of his westerns he added some extra height just to look that imposing. He did have a thing about size, and that was a major part of who he was, so him occasionally wearing boots with a lift isn't impossible. But he was too big to have only been 6'2 flat.
Arch Stanton said on 10/Jul/16
Shootist said on 9/Jul/16
The Duke is one of my all time favorite actors (and I even share many of his political views. I mean Wayne was an old school conservative, not extremists of any kind), but reading some of these comments are…interesting to say at least. I mean it’s interesting to see that there still exists some kind of a fan denial over the fact that John Wayne indeed did wear lifts. It’s not just some ”joke” Robert Mitchum told, but many actors and directors have said it about Wayne. And there is nothing wrong with that – many actors of all heights wears lifts as we know. That’s Hollywood. Past and present.

As for his real height, I cannot be sure how tall John Wayne was, but I’m guessing 6ft 2” is about right. (6' 4" figures are with lifts or set-up). IIRC his son said that Wayne was 6-2.

You can't be much of a fan then. He was barefoot in the Shootist and still looking at least 6'3. And in flat boat shoes, no lifts with 6'1.5 Lee Marvin in Donovan's Reef and looking 6'4 on the nose. I do believe he had a boost in his boots in a few films though, I don't think it's a running joke and made up as you say. In Rio Bravo for instance in some scenes he makes 5'10 ish Dean Martin look 5 ft 8 range, so I think it was clear he had to have been close to 6'4 but often had a booster or wore big boots to pull off nearer 6'6. But I doubt he ever wore "4 inch lifts".
Bruno said on 9/Jul/16
Shootist where is the proof JW wore lifts, there is not one photo that shows this NOT ONE. Wayne acted with taller men, James Arness, Rock Hudson, Jim Hutton, Alan Napier, Mike Mazurki, Chuck Connors, Fess Parker, Henry Brandon etc.

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Check at 1:40 his son Ethan says he stood 6'4''.
Shootist said on 9/Jul/16
The Duke is one of my all time favorite actors (and I even share many of his political views. I mean Wayne was an old school conservative, not extremists of any kind), but reading some of these comments are…interesting to say at least. I mean it’s interesting to see that there still exists some kind of a fan denial over the fact that John Wayne indeed did wear lifts. It’s not just some ”joke” Robert Mitchum told, but many actors and directors have said it about Wayne. And there is nothing wrong with that – many actors of all heights wears lifts as we know. That’s Hollywood. Past and present.

As for his real height, I cannot be sure how tall John Wayne was, but I’m guessing 6ft 2” is about right. (6' 4" figures are with lifts or set-up). IIRC his son said that Wayne was 6-2.

Yet, even without lifts Wayne was a very imposing character and that’s why he gained attention with his obsession for extra height and lifts. One would think he really did not need them in the first place, but if the Duke himself felt he needed to be tallest man on the set, who are we to judge.

Great site, btw.John Wayne and other actors are not the only ones obsessed with height. Apparently we all are. :)
LoganNoll1996 said on 7/Jul/16
Wayne was one of the most respected celebrities in Hollywood when it came to politics, Tom. He stuck to his guns yet respected other people and their opinions. And you're right, you can't dismiss his character whether or not you disagree with his political opinions. The man was too modest. It's a shame we don't have many people like him anymore.
Gonzalo said on 7/Jul/16
I think there is a lot of garbage about Wayne beliefs, wether you like them or hate them. I mean there are several cases of left wing actors who respected Wayne and liked him. Lauren Bacall or Kate Hepburn worked with him and spoke marvellous things about Wayne. Robert Aldrich was also a democrat and said Wayne was great man and a true friend. Gregory Peck, Elizabeth Taylor or Kirk Douglas supported the motion of award him the Congressional Gold Medal.
Rock Hudson said Wayne was an angel.
What I mean to say is that he wasn´t as bad, cruel and intolerant person as many people want us to believe. He had his beliefs but respected others. And others respected him
Tom said on 5/Jul/16
Dmytryk was hardly a sterling citizen. He ended up naming names in order to get off the blacklist. So did Elia Kazan. At Least Wayne remained true his principles and never double crossed people. You might disagree with his politics, but you cannot dismiss his character.
James said on 3/Jul/16
Yes Wayne personally ruined Dmytryk's life along with Carl Foreman, Stanley Kramer and many other patriotic Americans.
Dan said on 1/Jul/16
The director Edward Dmytryk stated in an interview back in the 90's that he didn't agree with Wayne's political views, but thought he was a great actor, and "...he was 6'4" and moved like an acrobat."
Tom said on 23/Jun/16
Wayne was wearing built up shoes in that terrible film "Blood Alley".
LoganNoll1996 said on 23/Jun/16
6'3.75" - 6'4". No more, no less. Was way too close to Mike Mazurki in height to have been any shorter than this.
Unsub 5'10" said on 22/Jun/16
Standing next to Chuck Connors, Arness, and Henry Fonda, I had the impression he was not over 6' 3, on the other hand he had 2.5 inches on Lee Marvin who I think was 1.84-85m, so, yeah, Wayne could've been 6'3", sure thing....6'3" was pretty much like 6'5" today.
Tom said on 21/Jun/16
He was never 6'4". He was 6'3" at his peak and wore boots with big heels. He was shorter than Rock Hudson.
miko said on 20/Jun/16
Surely if Wayne was a lift wearer, at 6'4 he'd have been looking 6'6 range at times and that never seemed to happen.

Against other 6'4 guys he just about held his own through his career, whether that was footwear orientated who knows.
James said on 17/May/16
Wayne was 6'3". He was only slightly taller than James Stewart in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" because he was wearing cowboy boots with lifts, while Stewart had ordinary shoes.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 15/May/16
Same range as Eastwood, near 6ft4. He'd get irritated if he had to work with a taller actor because he always prided himself on being the biggest, baddest youknowwhat around
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 13/May/16
194cm out of bed, Rob?
Editor Rob: 6ft 4.5-.75 maybe...
Gonzalo said on 11/May/16
Very, very hard to believe Wayne was under 1`90. 1`87 sounds unrealistic to me. The debate for me is between 1-90 or 1´93.
Sixseven said on 4/May/16
Gary Cooper 189,John Wayne 187,all books says it.
Gonzalo said on 27/Apr/16
Worden looked tall to me. At least 1`85. He was very funny in The searchers
LoganNoll1996 said on 26/Apr/16
Is it possible that we can get a page for Hank Worden, Rob? He was in a lot of John Wayne films and is interestingly described as 6'1.5" even though he looked shorter than that next to Wayne. I would say he was 5'11" - 6'0" range.
Tom said on 24/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was 6'1". It was 180,20 who said Wayne was 6'2", not me.
LoganNoll1996 said on 22/Apr/16
Lee Marvin at 6'1" would put Wayne at 6'3.5" which is still taller than what you're claiming him to be(6'2-6'3). But Lee Marvin was 6'1.5" putting Wayne at 6'4". Wayne himself wrote down 6'3.75" as his height and he certainly does look it in a lot of his films even in barefoot scenes. I still will continue to describe him as 6'4".

If Wayne was only 6'2-6'3 then everyone in Hollywood is, according to you(Tom), 1-2" shorter than what Rob has them listed at - and a lot of people agree with Rob's listings.
Tom said on 21/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was 6'1".
LoganNoll1996 said on 18/Apr/16
6'2" peak for Wayne is ridiculous. He was taller than near 6'2" actors like Ward Bond and Lee Marvin by 2-2.5 inches even when in flats. Not to mention he looked towering even when next to 6'2" guys. 6'3" peak is debatable since there's an image online where he was fractionally taller than Stewart who himself was 6'3".
Bruno said on 18/Apr/16
Wayne might have worn "half-inch lifts" so he looked taller compared to other actors in the film like James Stewart and Richard Boone,

What good would that be to a man that stood at nearly 76''.
James said on 18/Apr/16
Bacall was wearing heels.
180,20 said on 17/Apr/16
6"2-6"3 on his prime.... No More Than that...
Bruno said on 16/Apr/16
LoganNoll1996 said on 16/Apr/16
I need EVIDENCE, not a simple claim like Ron Howard being 5'7" peak when clearly he wasn't. He was noticably taller than Lauren Bacall in "The Shootist" and she's 5'7.5" so I am to believe she's only 5'5.5" then since Ron Howard was 5'7"? I will admit that Wayne was a flat 6'3" in that film but he was in his late 60s, was overweight, and developed health problems so he clearly lost some height.

6'3.75" - 6'4" at peak and down to 6'3" by his later years.
Tom said on 15/Apr/16
Ron Howard is actually 5'7".

Wayne might have worn half-inch lifts so he looked taller compared to other actors in the film like James Stewart and Richard Boone.
LoganNoll1996 said on 13/Apr/16
Ron is around 5'7 - 5'8 nowadays but was definitely 5'9 in his younger years and was completely DWARFED by a barefoot Wayne who was in his late 60s at the time. I need more than just empty claims by other celebrities and celebheights contributors to convince me that Wayne wore lifts. Cause there's evidence to prove otherwise such as his barefoot scenes in "Donovan's Reef" and "The Shootist".
Bruno said on 13/Apr/16
James said on 12/Apr/16
Ron Howard is 5'7".

We will have to downgrade every actor's peak height Rob because James says so.

What height is Henry Winkler 5' tall?
James said on 12/Apr/16
Ron Howard is 5'7".
Bruno said on 11/Apr/16
LoganNoll1996 said on 10/Apr/16
Fact is that he didn't look much shorter barefoot than he did with shoes on. Was well over 2 inches taller than a 6'1.5" Lee Marvin in "Donovan's Reef" and he was barefoot and sometimes in flats throughout the majority of the movie.

And how do we know he didn't just wear 0.25" lifts to bring his barefoot 6'3.75" height up to the full 6'4"? Everyone assumes he wears 2-4" lifts which is a load of crap.

Well said but you are never going to convince these people who believe JW wore lifts otherwise. Yet ask them to produce evidence that he did and they just talk BS. All one needs to do is look at a barefoot Wayne in 1976 The Shootist and see him tower over a 22 year old Ron Howard who is of average height at 5'9''.
LoganNoll1996 said on 10/Apr/16
Fact is that he didn't look much shorter barefoot than he did with shoes on. Was well over 2 inches taller than a 6'1.5" Lee Marvin in "Donovan's Reef" and he was barefoot and sometimes in flats throughout the majority of the movie.

And how do we know he didn't just wear 0.25" lifts to bring his barefoot 6'3.75" height up to the full 6'4"? Everyone assumes he wears 2-4" lifts which is a load of crap.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 10/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was 6ft1-2 range peak, possibly closer to the latter (6ft1¾). I think John Wayne had 2in on him so this height fits.
James said on 8/Apr/16
Capucine said Wayne wore lifts in 1960, five or six years before Mitchum worked with Wayne.

Wayne wore a wig from 1948 onwards so it isn't surprising he wore lifts as well.
Gonzalo said on 8/Apr/16
Lee Marvin looked very similar in height to Gene Hackman or William Hurt, who are undoubtedly in the 1´86-88 area.
LoganNoll1996 said on 7/Apr/16
Just because someone says something doesn't make it true(rumors). If I'm not mistaken, Robert Mitchum was the one to start the lifts controversy. But it could've been as much as a joke poking fun at Wayne's height since he was known for being so towering next to his costars.

He was wearing flats in "The Big Trail" and was still taller than a 6'1-6'2 Ian Keith and a 6'0-6'1 Tyrone Power who both had a footwear advantage over him. And Lee Marvin was definitely not under 6'1. A flat 6'1 is as low as he would've been with his 6'1.5" claim being accurate.

Rob's listing for Wayne is accurate even though it wouldn't surprise me if he was a full 6'4". Even when in flats,socks, or bare feet the man was just massive back in his day.
James said on 7/Apr/16
Lee Marvin was just under 6'1". Wayne was 6'3".
Arch Stanton said on 5/Apr/16
Yes, you only have to watch Donovan's Reef with Wayne in boat shoes to see he was near a genuine 6'4. You could see his feet in them and definitely no lifts, The man was between 2 and 3 inches taller than than 6'1.5 Lee Marvin
Tom said on 2/Apr/16
Probably because so many people who worked with him said he wore lifts.
LoganNoll1996 said on 1/Apr/16
My bad, I never watched Donovan's Reef yet(only the beginning). Elizabeth Allen is listed on these sites as 5'9". GIven how she worked as a fashion model, it's possible that is not her actual height. She could've been as low as 5'8" - 5'8.5" for all we know. And Wayne appeared to be at least a head taller than her in that scene I posted which would put him as a 6'3ish - 6'4" guy barefoot.

Don't know why people still persist that he wore lifts.
Bruno said on 1/Apr/16
She is listed as 5'9'' on a well known movie site. Lifts me a**e Tom.
Gonzalo said on 31/Mar/16
That´s not Ursulla Andress, that´s Elizabeth Allen in Donovan´s reef. Wayne appeared barefoot in several movies and he didn´t look much shorter than with shoes on. I am thinking of The quiet man, The searchers or The shootist. In all those movies he looked very big barefoot
James said on 31/Mar/16
Isn't that from the awful film Donovan's Reef?
LoganNoll1996 said on 28/Mar/16
John Wayne barefoot with 5'5" Ursula Andress though there isn't a shot of them both standing straight but Wayne looks like he could be a little over a head taller. Click Here

Notice how he's doing his signature walk despite not wearing any form of footwear.
Tom said on 27/Mar/16
Stewart was probably wearing ordinary shoes whereas Wayne was wearing lifts.
Height ain't nothin' said on 25/Mar/16
I met The Duke in 1977 in L.A. I am 6'5.75" . Remember he was 70 and I 21. he was a legit 6'4". I also met Jimmy Stewart and I can say Mr. Stewart was shorter then The Duke. In my opinion 1.5"
LoganNoll1996 said on 20/Mar/16
Can't tell whether or not Wayne is closer to the camera than Cooper but he is leaning a bit whereas Cooper is standing straight with his arms crossed. Have no clue who the little guy is though.

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Sam said on 20/Mar/16
Rampage, take into consideration Widmark's comment, he was actually surprisingly kind towards Rock Hudson and even at the point where he was producing and directing films he was seemingly ok with appearing with other guys 6'3" or over.
Tom said on 17/Mar/16
That's probably why he wore lifts.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 16/Mar/16
I reckon Wayne resented guys who were taller than him because he was so used to being the biggest guy around and didn't like to be out-sized physically. Clint Walker or Rock Hudson would piss him off. Real masculine thing...
James B said on 15/Mar/16
I thought he looked 6'4.5 in some of his westerns.
AlexMahone said on 11/Mar/16
Wayne was about 193cm.
Tom said on 7/Mar/16
In Munn's book - where he quotes many people, most of whom were dead - he quoted Wayne as asking, "Do I seem short to you?". He didn't say that Wayne said how tall he was.
Tom said on 7/Mar/16
Wayne was 6'3".
LoganNoll1996 said on 6/Mar/16
Just curious, Tom, how tall do you think Wayne was?
PLB said on 6/Mar/16
The idea that he wore 4 inch lifts had always seemed improbable to me. I was always an honest 6'4" barefoot but to correct a problem with my foot I once wore some three inch lifts. Jesus. What pain. My back was killing me and I stumbled around like I was drunk. I don't know how the ladies manage. OTOH I liked being taller.

But maybe Wayne did wear big lifts. Herbert Marshall lost a leg and appeared in many movies thereafter looking completely normal. But if he did wear such big lifts there would have had to have been a big conspiracy involving everyone on the set. I think a normal man can get away with funny shoes that add as much as two inches. But I find four inches unlikely. That's almost a stilt.

BTW I watched 'The Alamo' for the first time the other night. Wayne was no director.
Rory said on 5/Mar/16
Rob, with all the conspiracies about Wayne and lifts what do you think the chances are that he was more like 6'2 and wore lifts to look about 6'4, or do you rule them out completely and think he was genuinely around 6'4 ?
Editor Rob: there's no smoke without fire.

In Wayne's case though, maybe there is a kind of myth and an element of Chinese Whispers to it. A joke that grew legs...
Tom said on 2/Mar/16
Was anything Munn wrote true?
LoganNoll1996 said on 23/Feb/16
Rob, may I suggest reading "John Wayne: The Man Behind the Myth" by Michael Munn? There's an interview in there in which Wayne talks about the lifts rumors.
LoganNoll1996 said on 23/Feb/16
Tyrone Power could've lost height but I see him as still being a 6 footer by then. So 6'0" - 6'0.5" which would put him at 6'1" - 6'1.5" when accounting for footwear advantage and Wayne is still taller.

There's also a pic of Wayne with Ward Bond from that film in which Wayne is visibly taller despite having a noticeable footwear disadvantage and Bond himself was a 6'1" - 6'2" guy.
movieguy said on 23/Feb/16
I don't think he was a full 6'4'' but doubt if he was much less than this. Yeah I can believe he wore lifts as he was same height as 6'5'' Jim Hutton in films they made despite being considerably older. Looked very different as a young man from the more well known middle aged superstar. Much lighter in build and more typically a Hollywood good looking leading man. I actually think he was a brilliant actor although to the younger generation his films probably don't have widespread appeal which I suppose is understandable.
Ice said on 21/Feb/16
Im 6'2.5'' in the morning and waer shoe lifts , bc I just feel too short around guys my age
Patricia 02/20/16 said on 20/Feb/16
So many comments about John Wayne 's height. Also, someone said he had small feet. Between small feet & lifts,
could those two things together, have been the reason, John Wayne's walk was , lets say, a little different.
Tom said on 15/Feb/16
Many celebrities who were 6'1" said they were 6'2".

Tyrone Power was about sixty in "The Big Trail" so he probably wasn't at his peak height.
LoganNoll1996 said on 8/Feb/16

Just about all the sites on here list Keith as 6'2".
Tom said on 5/Feb/16
Ian Keith was 6'1".
LoganNoll1996 said on 31/Jan/16
Go watch "The Big Trail", John Wayne's first film as a lead role. Wayne obviously is not wearing lifts in that film if you look at his footwear and he was a little taller than Ian Keith who was regularly described as 6'2". He was also taller than Tyrone Power, Sr. who was wearing boots - and Tyrone Power, Sr. is described on most sites as being 6'1". The lowest I would argue for a young John Wayne is 6'3.5" but no lower.
Tom said on 16/Jan/16
Also don't forget Wayne had lung cancer when "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" was filmed, and therefore may not have appeared at his peak height without help.
Tom said on 16/Jan/16
Stewart did not wear lifts, but Lee Marvin was only six foot.

Since Wayne wore a wig in every film from 1948 onwards, why do you think he wouldn't have worn lifts as well? He wouldn't allow Jack Elam to be cast in "The Train Robbers" because Elam stole "Rio Lobo" from him, and he refused to work with Robert Mitchum after the younger actor stole "El Dorado" from him.
marcus said on 14/Jan/16
Disregard last. I was wrong Van Cleef was in the movie as well.
marcus said on 14/Jan/16
It was Lee Marvin, not Lee Van Cleef.
Bruno said on 14/Jan/16
Tom said on 13/Jan/16
Wayne was probably wearing lifts in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". He was playing a character 30 years younger than his real age. They had to cut the film because Wayne couldn't disarm Van Cleef's lightning fast draw.

And was Stewart and Marvin wearing lifts as well, because Wayne and Stewart looked pretty close in height and Marvin about 1.5-2'' lower. Please refrain from talking rot.
184.3cm (Night) said on 14/Jan/16
Wayne at 188cm? Then you need to downgrade alot of other big names im afraid. I do think he looked 6'3 at times in some of his older movies when he had flat footwear but he never looked as short as 6'2.
Tom said on 13/Jan/16
Wayne was probably wearing lifts in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". He was playing a character 30 years younger than his real age. They had to cut the film because Wayne couldn't disarm Van Cleef's lightning fast draw.
Gonzalo said on 13/Jan/16
LoganNoll1996 said on 4/Jan/16

I've noticed people on here claiming him to have been 6'2" - even using a Mexican visa as "proof". In my opinion he was taller than 6'2" guys like Lee Van Cleef in his prime. He just doesn't look that short

In Liberty Balance Wayne had two inches on Lee Van Cleef. He was taller and much bigger tan him
marcus said on 10/Jan/16
High School physical said 6' 4''
Tom said on 10/Jan/16
Mitchum said Wayne wasn't 6'4".
Arch Stanton said on 9/Jan/16
Basically we can't prove he wore lifts or didn't wear them. But I think too many people talked about it to dismiss entirely. The only 6 ft and wore 4 inch lifts is certainly utter nonsense though. But until we actually have concrete proof, like an old studio photo of his boots on set with inserts poking out the top or whatever then it's pure speculation. All I know is that in a lot of his films his boots did look really bulky and difficult to walk in, and at times he could pull off looking taller than this listing. But you could say the same thing about any actor walking in those big style of boots.Just look at Burt Reynolds, at times he could look near 6 ft 1 in them!
Arch Stanton said on 9/Jan/16
There's certainly no point in debating that he was just 6 ft. In The Shootist I think it was we see him barefoot and clearly he looked a decent 6'3" er even at that age. He was genuinely a big man, and had the frame of a 6'4 man, regardless of footwear. You can't dismiss all the claims as false rumours though, even Mitchum admitted Wayne was 6 ft 4 and wore lifts. In a lot of his films his footwear does look really bulky and difficult to walk around in. There's no proof I've seen of him wearing lifts, but it isn't impossible that he had a booster in his boots in some films to pull off looking even more imposing. That was part of the package he was selling to the public, and his "man mountain" larger than life American image was crucial to his career. I would doubt he ever wore "4 inch lifts" though. As Sam said previously in some films he could really look more massive than others, in certain scenes in fact he could look like a man closer to 6 ft 6. It isn't impossible that he had something in in those films to pull off looking even bigger. But I think it's very clear from watching him in so many films he was genuinely a very tall man even without them.
Tom said on 8/Jan/16
George Kennedy said Wayne and Dean Martin both wore lifts in "Rio Bravo" and "The Sons of Katie Elder".
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 5/Jan/16
There are rumours that the man was barely over 6ft and wore massive lifts.

Rob, is there any point debating that or is it a complete myth?
Editor Rob: as many know, the more often a lie is repeated, the greater the chance it becomes accepted as the truth.

I think if you watch his movies and see the types of boots men wore, were his much different or could somehow conceal 3 inches worth of lifts?
LoganNoll1996 said on 4/Jan/16
Hey, Rob, what's the lowest listing you would give Wayne and do you believe he wore lifts. I found this on IMDB and thought I'd share it:

"Increasingly by the early 1960s Wayne used to wear three or four-inch lifts in his shoes, a practice that mystified friends and co-stars like Bobby Darin', Capucine' and Robert Mitchum' because he stood 6'4". It was possibly due to his increasing weight, health problems, and age that he wasn't able to loom as tall without lifts."

I've noticed people on here claiming him to have been 6'2" - even using a Mexican visa as "proof". In my opinion he was taller than 6'2" guys like Lee Van Cleef in his prime. He just doesn't look that short.
Editor Rob: My shoe lifts page Here mentioned Darin/Mitchum quotes about Wayne and was published 7th October 2004.

Imdb archived page from December 2004 Archive shows no mention about lifts, but then Feb 2005 Archive shows someone added the trivia then.

Good to know celebheights is useful for throwaway trivia ;)
Arch Stanton said on 4/Jan/16
I've seen some of his rarer mid 30s films of late and he looked close to 6'4 in all of them. Too tall to be under 6'3". The only film I saw of his where he looked 6'2.5 was The Big Trail wearing flat mocassins. In all others his body looks too big to have only been 6'2 range.
Jake: 1.84 m- 1.85 m said on 3/Jan/16
He did look huge in 'Rio Bravo'.
Unsub 5'10" said on 2/Jan/16
I never believed he was close to 6'4, I think he was more like a strong 6'2 or perhaps 6' 2.5 .
jessman said on 1/Jan/16
Pete, for me 188cm is very believable for Wayne. I just do not see him as 192cm. There seems to be general acceptance of hollywood 2 inch height inflation, but seemingly not when it comes to Wayne.
Pete said on 31/Dec/15
Came across this photo (I believe) Mexican visa dated 1948 of John Wayne. Interesting - his height here is listed as 188cm. Click Here
Tom said on 6/Dec/15
In 1955 Wayne was 6'3" and Mazurki was 6'4".
Sam said on 3/Dec/15
"Close to 6'5"" for Mazurki according to a newspaper article and Rob's listing, i.e. 6'4.75", consistent with his being roughly an inch over Wayne who wrote for himself 6'3.75". I was wondering if his in character claim of "six four and a half" in The Quiet Man might have reflected a morning measurement Wayne had off-screen.
Tom said on 1/Dec/15
Even Mazurki said he wasn't 6'5".
Tom said on 30/Nov/15
I've read that Wayne was 6'3.5" at his peak, and 6'3" by his fifties.
Gonzalo said on 30/Nov/15
Mike Mazurki looked definitely 6`5. Watch The unconquered
Tom said on 26/Nov/15
Mike Mazurki was 6'4".
Tom said on 25/Nov/15
Mike Mazurki wasn't really 6'5".
Jock said on 24/Nov/15
Watch the film Blood Alley, Wayne in flat boat shoes stood face ro face with 6ft5 Mike M, there was about an inch if that between themm
Wayne never whore lifts, yes cowboy boots with heels but so did all the other actors that appeared in the films with him,
Sam said on 20/Nov/15
IMO only a small portion of lift-wearers in earlier Hollywood were caught in photos in them, some actors are more obviously wearing lifts in some roles than Wayne generally was.
Tom said on 19/Nov/15
Good lifts should be invisible from the outside.

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