Nick said on 15/Nov/15
I've been wearing about 3 inches of insoles in a pair of high top sneakers for like a half a year now. My question is, Can you wear 3 inch insoles and still look fashionable? If so, what type of footwear would you recommend that permits me to be able to use the 3" insoles and still wear decent pair of pants.
said on 8/Nov/15
What is ,if any side effects to useing 1"-2" lift. Can I still where flat Sneakers or shoes? Like bad arches?
[Editor Rob: personally I can't say, but there are many people who wear lifts long-term...it's not as bad as high heels though because they don't raise you up as much and have flat soles so the foot/ankle/ligaments aren't put under as much strain as high heels can do to a women.]
said on 6/Nov/15Click Here
Rob these shoes claim they add 5'5 inches in height? how much would you say this would add to someone's height?
[Editor Rob: 3.5 might be possible]
RobV said on 1/Nov/15
PS my caveat on standard type suit wearers being able to 'buy any of the 4" boots' to wear with a suit is to 'buy any EXCEPT those with the chunkier workwear sole'. Some of the workwear soles come in heights lower than 5" andn they are best avoided if you are a 'standard type suit wearer'!
RobV said on 30/Oct/15
@ Todd You ask about elevators giving 3"+, and suitable for wearing with a suit. I am someone who has worn lifts and elevators daily for over 15 years and can tell you that that is the kinda cut-off point for AVERAGE type of suit wearers. In many careers in, say London or in other European cities, you are freer to wear stuff that might give you more leeway in a suit (provide that the style was in fashion of course), but for your average standard suit wearer in an office, then anything advertised as more than 4" (the 4" elevators give you about 3" real height addition) will have too thick/chunky a sole for most situations.
18 months ago I bought the GuidoMaggi 5" Shanghais, which have a v chunky workwear type sole, and for my own particular work - I run clubs - I can get away with wearing them in all situations. But I would feel uneasy about wearing them if I had to wear a standard suit. I recently bought some 4" Ischias from GuidoMaggi and they are perfect for such a situation - if you google them, you'll see they have a thinner more shoe-like front part of the sole (vital for a suit imho, unless a chunky Doc style workwear sole is fashionable at the time with a suit). But they are boots so you can easily get the 4" elevator. Even though they are boots, they go with a suit because they basically look like a bit of a hybrid - part boot part shoe, which is very current and has been for some time under a suit - when they are showing under a pair of trousers. I know Don's do boots like this as well.
Any of the 4" boots would do the trick, and as I say, they tend to give about an extra 3" on top of the height you would get from any other pair of boots.
said on 30/Oct/15
What kind of height shoe wouldn't be noticeable in the height
[Editor Rob: a lot of elevator shoes that give 1.5-2 inch range are hard to spot, most people won't be able to tell, especially if your trousers/pants cover a good amount of the shoe.
With a boot I think you can get away with it a bit easier than a shoe, because the amount of leather you need to get between 2 and 2.5 inches out of a shoe means the shoe itself starts to look quite big and I think more people would think it looked a little funnier...that's if they see it, as I said, if you aint' wearing skinny jeans your trouser/jeans should be able to cover a lot of the height the shoe gives.]
said on 28/Oct/15
Hi, do you have any recommendations for elevator boots from Guidomaggi or Don's that give 3 inches or more of height but also go well with a suit?
[Editor Rob: if you get a suit that is 2 inches longer than your normal trousers but with a slightly wider width then really you could choose from any of the classic models like the dons bergamo, terni aren't boots but they do have big versions that basically start to look like a boot because of the size of lift inside. Actual boot versions like di vico versions or colleta I think are the type I'd look at. For Guido it is worth checking out their Instagram page
as they do show men with suits and how they look.]
said on 23/Oct/15
Rob, how much height increase do you think the biggest 5 inch boots from Dons really give (like D'Etna) Really 5 inches increase from barefoot height or a little bit less?
[Editor Rob: if you measure the highest point at the back (highest point of lift), you are never going to get that much because the foot pivots at the ankle.
said on 17/Oct/15
Rob, do you think that it would be insecure on the part of a man who isn't short but average height to want to be at least a couple inches taller? In other words, for my whole adult life I wanted to be 6'0" barefoot but am only 5'10" barefoot after standing for 8 hours. It's only been in the last maybe 15 years that I didn't feel the need to stretch the truth about my height and actually don't mind my height now.In your opinion, is 5'10" a good height for a man?
[Editor Rob: it's a standard average range. There's nothing wrong with having a desire to be taller, but unfortunately for bare-feet height, the option available is limb-lengthening, which rules out nearly everybody.
But nobody walks about bare-feet, they are in shoes of various heights. Lifts/elevators are able to alter men's (or women's) perceived height.]
said on 12/Oct/15
Hi Rob, do you know the "masaltos" and "hiplus" elevator shoes. If so, what do you think about them? They are both from spain, and "masaltos" seens to be very popular on amazon.co.uk.
[Editor Rob: I don't know the quality, but they don't look that bad in photos...expense wise, they are certainly a bit cheaper than some of the other companies like dons or guido maggi.]
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said on 3/Oct/15
Yeah exactly Rob, lifts are better for one-off use while elevators are better for discrete long term use.
I just read Dan's comment below and he said that those European Summer shoes made him 3 inches taller. Do you think that's realistic? Because I've seen you mention elsewhere that the advertised lift isn't actually the same as the height boost you get.
To be honest, since my 6 ft 0.75" measurement at the doctor's office, I'm not even sure about elevators. I guess I need to try and get measured under a stadiometer again. Do you think the wall stadiometers are even reliable?
[Editor Rob: yeah if they are advertised as 3 inches they won't really give that, although when you put them on you probably think it feels significant, and at 2.3-2.4 inches of actual height gain (from those described in the 3 inch range), that is still a big amount.
said on 2/Oct/15
Hey Rob, quick question about elevator shoes. If you buy a big elevator like D'Etna from Dons shoes, should you buy shoes with the same shoe size you wear normally (normal shoes, not elevators)?
[Editor Rob: buy your normal size of shoe when getting an elevator.
It's really only if you want to buy cheap lifts like 10 bux and put them in a boot, you might be better with a slightly bigger (1/2 size maybe).]
said on 2/Oct/15
I am a 22 year old student from Switzerland and not a tall man. 5'4" to be exact. And for the most part it doesn't bother me. I mean, I've been short my entire life, kind of used to it by now. I know my short stature hurts me in my personal, dating, and professional life. Short men are seen as less attractive by women. Short men are typically paid less. Etc. I've been debating getting elevator shoes. But I can't get over the feeling that that would be like 'admitting' that I am self-conscious about my height. I've spent years acting like it doesn't bother me, no reason to change that now? On the other hand, everything about the way I dress is designed to increase my attractiveness. Why should my shoes be any different?
I had never heard of these shoes until now, so I figured there had to be a way for short men to find out about these things better.
Well, for the last two months I've been wearing a pair of Elevator Shoes called Pastellos (donsfootwear.com/pastello) that give me a height increase of 3.1" and for formal dinners i've worn the "European Summer 2" (donsfootwear.com/european-summer-2) a nice dress shoe. I love it. They make me 3" taller. That's over 7cm increased height! I can feel it; the world and other people just look slightly smaller from a few inches taller and I feel much more like I have a gameface on. This must be the feeling women get from wearing makeup. The best part is that the effect doesn't go away when I tell other people. It's pretty hard to tell just from looking at the shoes how much taller they make you. The sites are very big on being discreet, like wearing taller shoes is your deepest darkest secret, but I've showed everybody whenever I get compliments on the shoes (which is all the time) and everybody thinks the effect is cool, not shameful.
As for the shoes themselves, they are both from the same company Donsfootwear.com (check this site out) and they both fit well, are comfortable and well made since they are handmade. Also the shoes themselves look classy as F' and I'd wear them even when they weren't Elevator Shoes.
I just thought to share my experiences with the Elevator Shoes since I'm really happy with the impact they had on me and my life. So what are your experiences with elevator shoes? :))
[Editor Rob: that's the thing, they have made you feel better.
For people who get down or are concerned about their height, what can they realistically do?
99.9999% of people cannot have limb-lengthening due to obvious factors like cost/risk.
Grow taller programs? As I showed this year in a video series, con-men and scammers operate these type of programs and use deception to sell the programs, preying on the idea grown men can gain 2-3 inches.
What's left? Accept your height, or improve your perceived height through lifts/elevators.
Dan, your own perceived height (that which others see you as) has increased to maybe 5ft 6 range (based on say other men on average wearing 0.75-1 inch shoes)...but your outlook/confidence looks like it has improved as well, which also has an effect on how others perceive you.
Perceived height can be influenced by your outlook/personality, how you dress and of course the size of your shoes...
182 cm evening height
said on 28/Sep/15
Thanks for the info, Rob.
Yeah, I may decide to buy a pair of elevators but also use lifts elsewhere. Elevators are useful when you want to get a boost from shoes but don't want to wear big boots (to conceal lifts) and don't want your feet slipping out of the shoes. I think I'll buy the shoes I linked earlier. I could wear those with shorts or anything, really, and they would just look casual.
I do think I'll be better off with lifts in some cases, though. Like it may be cheaper to get some normal ankle boots a size or two too large and put a lift inside them. In sixth form, I bought a pair of oversized trainers and stuffed them with tissues and a gel insole (lol) and managed to get ~1.8 inches from the trainers without sacrificing comfort.
[Editor Rob: there are some situations where people might only want lifts, and the expense of an elevator shoe is too much. Maybe a job interview or special occasion, a once-off...]
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said on 27/Sep/15
Okay, so I'm looking into Don's.
Rob, you mentioned that 2.75" styles add about 2 inches to total height so I figured I might go for something like that. Do you think a 2.75" style could look as discrete as these (Click Here
I'm slightly disappointed that a 2.75" style doesn't actually add 2.75", though, and I may just go with lifts instead. Basically, I'd prefer to add about 1.5 inches to my height without a heel. Do you think lifts are a better way to do this?
[Editor Rob: remember that you want to be able to walk comfortably. With that particular model I think you are better keeping 2.75 or less style, which means actual height might be between 2 and 2.25 inches.
That is still a decent increase, between 1-1.5 inches more than an average sneaker or normal shoe will give.
Lifts are definitely much cheaper, but they are moveable within a shoe/boot and nowhere near as comfortable as custom-designed elevators, where the internal lift is part of the design....but of course, they are far more expensive.
Sometimes it is better to test out some lifts first to see what it feels like.]
said on 24/Sep/15
Hey Rob, I just wanted to give a big thank you for recommending the Don's shoes, as well as providing the 10% discount through your website. I've purchased two pairs of the 2.5" mid-sole technology, and with the exception of doing something very fast paced (for example, playing a sport), they're very versatile for the most part. Very comfortable, great quality, and they look pretty normal too (not overly bulky or ugly). Thanks Rob.
[Editor Rob: the mid-sole I believe is a subtle improvement over the earlier incarnations. 2.5 is what I'd recommend going with. It's enough to give you about 1.5-1.75 inches more than a typical sneaker or shoe, but not too big that you end up frustrated trying to wear them.]
Josh said on 23/Sep/15
This guy is amazing. I have bought 5 shoes in last 3 years and qualitybis awesome. Little bit hard to get reply back soon but a great guy in making custom leather shoes. I recommend highly. Make sure to be exact in what you want, you might be not happy of dont give him all sizes and requests.
Stev said on 14/Sep/15
I bought the dons midtech sole shoes in a formal brogue, after reading that they feel like wearing normal trainers. I went for the smallest of 2 inches total gain. I must say the shoes are fantastically made, and are of great quality, but the to say they feel like you are wearing normal shoes is pretty ridiculous, the angle of the heel and the bulging feeling in the middle of your feet is very uncomfortable, can't believe that anyone could walk around in those all day, let alone the bigger lifts, I would be them for the quality alone though, superb shoes, just don't think elevators are for me, they feel quite horrible on my feet.
said on 10/Sep/15
I think Don's shoes are the best in the market. I wish he continues to push the envelope and make more shoes and boots. I'm extremely impressed.
[Editor Rob: I hadn't put the Dons 'big boots' on for a while, but I wanted to test them again and take another photo.
I think you really need to build up to the really big Dons like 4-inch styles. I'd stick with 2-inch shoes or 3-inch at most for a few years as then you will be used and your feet used to the higher angle and the different pressure points that your foot experiences.
Jumping straight into a very big boot is not advisable. I wouldn't recommend anybody buying 4-inch boots to begin with...you need the experience of wearing smaller elevators (2-2.5 inch) in daily life to get used to them.]
RobV said on 6/Sep/15
@ DK GuidoMaggi and Don's are basically the two best on the market as far as I am concerned, having bought from both. Both are comfortable and you can find styles which work. Although I think GuidoMaggi have the edge in terms of fashion etc, you can find perfectly good stuff with Don's. For my taste, Bertulli look old fashioned but of course some like that.
DK said on 4/Sep/15
First time poster here. I've bought from Don (wearing 1 and 2 more on the way) and GuidoMaggi. Saw below about Bertulli. Anyone compared Bertulli to Dons or GuidoMaggi? FWIW, Dons seems most comfortable (with the MST) but GuidoMaggi seem to be better leather and construction. Thx
Sean said on 3/Sep/15
Curious question; has anyone ever been to a nightclub wearing shoe lifts/elevators but then get stopped by bouncers for a random security search? If they discovered you had elevators/lifts did they allow you to come in or did they deny you? This hasn't happened to me yet but it is worrying everytime I attempt to get in somewhere.
Editor Rob said on 1/Sep/15
I was speaking to my neighbour the other day and the topic of elevator shoes came up and surprisingly he revealed that one time a few decades ago he too bought a pair of them (Bertulli, from an advert he seen in a magazine). Funny thing is, he was 5ft 10.5, but said he felt a bit self conscious at younger guys towering over him...although he said he only wore them 4 or 5 times before realising they weren't for him.
RobV said on 23/Aug/15
@ Dan Yep you can drive in elevators but you just have to be aware that there is a difference in sensitivity and reach. You just have to learn the difference. Women drive in heels and without, of course.
RobV said on 22/Aug/15
@ Tyler I have bought a pair of solid 5" boots from GuidoMaggi (not trainers) and have found that they tend to give me about the 5" from barefoot. Remember firstly that ALL shoes are elevators really (even if flipflops give you barely half an inch, it is still a lift however small!), so this 5" is not 5" ON TOP OF, say, my normal boots. Some people expect it to be and of course it isn't. Just look on this site at how much normal boots and trainers can give you. From barefoot to wearing the 4" trainers you will probably get in the region of the 4" depending upon how you stand etc. But I have never bought elevator trainers yet (have always bought larger and used lifts), but I might consider them now.
For what it's worth, I think you can measure any pair of elevators from base to the top of the elevator, see that they are exact and tick the box, but then not quite achieve that actual full lift when wearing them. Editor Rob here has mentioned this elsewhere on the site, and the reasons for it, and I agree. It's relatively minor but it is a useful reminder not to expect to measure exactly 4"/5" taller when you wear them. But trust me, you will feel WAY taller in 4" trainers/sneakers.
If you get them, I'd be interested in your experiences. On here preferably, so others can share, but otherwise to me at robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk
Dan said on 22/Aug/15
Do you drive in elevator shoes?
said on 20/Aug/15
Hey, I wanted your opinion on guidomaggi's sneakers. They say to be able to add 4 inches of height but I don't see those shoes being anywhere near that. What do you think?
[Editor Rob: RobV might be best answering as he has experience of buying some guido's.]
RobV said on 14/Aug/15
@ Editor Rob You ask what trousers I wear with my 5" boots. Yes I do buy longer ones in general, but I have had such a long experience of adding height that you almost kinda forget what your real inseam is and stuff I already have is generally fine! But if I was going that high overnight, for sure. For probably 13-odd years I had been used to adding a certain amount of height (say around 3") solely through lifts and also of course wearing carefully selected workboot styles + lifts which gave the max.
Elevators ARE different and I wear both my GuidoMaggi ones and my Dons a lot. With some I can actually wear skinny jeans and expose the boot and it doesn't look obvious. I wouldn't advise this for most people as you have to really judge it well. With others I can't, and therefore wear slim cut jeans but not overly skinny, otherwise you DO get a bit of that clumpy heel look, which is a big no no.
However, if the boots are well designed and look up to date, classic or very well made, you can get away with a lot more than you can with some poorly made tat which is in a rather dated style.
One thing I would however advise from my own experience. If guys do go for 5" boots which are not very high in the shaft and wear slim or bootcut jeans over the boots, you have to buy longer. I have one pair of jeans that I really love and they look great when I stand up, but when I sit down, they ride up over the tab at the back and that is the worst of all worlds, as all that is exposed is the heel section when you then stand up again. If those pants were even just one inch longer there would be no prob.
Editor Rob said on 14/Aug/15
RobV, what kind of trousers/pants/jeans do you wear with the 5-inch styles? Do you bother trying to get trousers 2-3 inches longer than your normal inseam?
RobV said on 13/Aug/15
@ Don The clip of you wearing the 5" elevators is excellent and there is simply no way that anyone looking on would see anything unusual or detectable. Obviously, watching a piece of film headed up "wearing 5" elevators" can make some viewers think they can tell, but this says nothing other than they are stating what they know to be true as they have been told!
And an interesting point is what you are wearing them with. Which in this case was exactly right - a pair of jeans that cover the top of the boots but not too much so - you don't want some extra long crumpled jeans over the boot as that does not look right either.
I wear both 4" and 5" elevators - yours and GuidoMaggis - and I am surprised when people say on here that they occasionally find it difficult to walk in them. It may however be right (what Editor Rob says) that in fact you have to build up to them - I of course did this in my own way by wearing lifts for over a decade beforehand, adding up to 3" in height all the time. I find the 5" ones very very comfortable to wear and easy to walk in.
Another thing I have often told those on here who want to wear a big lift - before going out wearing them to something specific for the first time, break them in by walking short and then medium distances beforehand - go to the shops wearing them, go to collect something etc, knowing you will be home after a certain time. Not only will you learn how to walk in them, but also you will realise that no-one can tell. That's very important for confidence because elevators are the type of thing where there is little info available, and guys just do not know what to expect. Many think that adding half an inch and the entire world will be pointing and querying. In fact you can add serious height and no-one ever notices. Strange.
RobV said on 13/Aug/15
@ Mike "Has anyone on here bought the 5" GuidoMaggi"? Yep I have. They are great and incredibly comfortable. They are not too 'good to be true', and I wear them a lot in more casual circumstances. I bought the Shanghais. Yes, they have a thick workwear style sole so by and large they are best with really casual stuff. A heavy sole which looks natural when you wear jeans etc can look a bit like you are trying to add height if worn with a suit, so imho if you are looking for something that looks completely flat and suitable for ALL clothes, buy the 4" ones in a size or two bigger and wear a bit of extra lifts if you wanna get to 5" !! I do this as well. But I wear my 5" ones probably most of the time (then I never wear a suit).
For the record I also own the Dons 4" d'Etna which is the same as the 5" in sole type and I do not think it looks any more noticeable. The key every time is what you wear them with. Go flatter in sole for formal, use the chunkier sole for nights out/casual. No-one will ever notice the inch or so difference.
I often advise people on elevators and how to achieve the max for the occasion. If you ever need info, I'm at robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk - I spent 15 years getting to the height I wanted, now always adding 5", and there are loads of tricks that help you to do it undetected.
Mike said on 12/Aug/15
Are Guido Maggi 5 inch boots to good to be true? Compared to Don's 5 inch boots they look a lot less noticeable (expect for the extra chunky heel). Does anyone own a pair of GM 5inch boot here?
said on 9/Aug/15
Hi Rob! I'm a man, about 5'7", and I would like to be 2" to 2.5" taller when walking/standing (at the mall)! I sometimes wear 1.5" (male) boots with 0.5" wedges inside of them, which makes me just about 5'9"; but I feel like I need more. What would you recommend, small elevator shoes or a 2-inch heeled boot!? Are there ANY (non-elevators) 2-inch heeled boots that you could recommend for me!? Thanks!
[Editor Rob: there are Logger type boots that can add 2 inches. Many cowboy heels add 2 inches as well.
One of the Dons 2.75 styles might be worth looking at, as they will get you over 2 inches of actual height.]
said on 8/Aug/15
Hi Rob. Here is some live footage (Pun intended) of a customer of the Don walking in the 5 incher
[Editor Rob: he walked better than me when I first tried to use them. I think it is getting used to very large elevators. If you build up and go from 2 to 3 then eventually more, it might be more easier than suddenly trying to use 4-inch or 5-inchers.]
RobV said on 1/Aug/15
@ Average Height Person You refer to some elevator shoes. One contact from here has bought them, and says they are fine as long as your trousers are really long enough to cover them (and that means with enough width at the trouser bottom to ensure that almost all of the boot is not seen.
I have seen them referred to over the past few years but now that there are better boots on the market, I would save up and buy those rather than these. Just my honest opinion.
Average Height Person said on 30/Jul/15
Anyone tried these Elevator Shoes: XT9964? It claims 5.5 inches but does anyone know what actual gain i will get from these?
said on 26/Jul/15
@ Mike I assume you mean a thick sole rather than a high heel on a Doc. This kinda thing, the men's Jadon, is about the highest, Click Here
although I have seen others made to measure or specially done that are thicker. There is a point at which if you are trying to gain height that it is best imho to have a certain amount of sole but the rest of the lift is inside. Try buying a pair of Docs 2 (or 3) sizes larger than your real size and adding height - the extra room allows way more to be added without it being noticed through strain on the upper or by physically limiting you. You would be amazed at how effective that is.
said on 22/Jul/15
Hi Rob, I wanted to ask if you know a regular boot like Dr. Marten with a 2 inch heel.
[Editor Rob: some 'logger' type boots can get you near that. Doc and cat boots for women, I've seen some of those with 2-2.3 range heels.]
RobV said on 16/Jul/15
An interesting point raised by someone with elevators is the extra/thicker sole needed to get to the 5" lift. Up to 4" you can get loads of styles with flat normal-type soles, but when you get to 5" it has to come basically through the additional sole. Hence if you look at the 5" boots on Guido Maggi or Dons sites, you will see that all have a thicker pretty chunky workwear type sole, while many of the 4" ones look like normal averagely-soled boots/shoes.
Does this matter, and does it devalue the height extra achieved if you wear the thicker soled boots? One poster mentioned this in passing. I have gone each time for the thicker 5" soles (and added a little more lift of my own within the proper levels of comfort!), and find that these are great with many types of pants/jeans. I bought d'Etnas from Dons and Shanghais from GM.
Some of my contacts from here have taken a slightly different approach (I have posted my e-mail address from time to time if people want advice as I have been adding height for 15 years and never been rumbled).
Two guys who got in touch have bought the thinner soled 4" boots and sacrificed the extra inch (even though they wanted it) because they wanted footwear that looked totally unremarkable in any way for work situations. They feared that a thick workwear sole with work trousers might arouse some sort of comment.
I take this point in a way. I would certainly not want to wear a big thick workwear sole with a very conventional suit (unless it were the fashion at the time, which does happen). I almost never wear a suit so it doesn't arise. But in other situations, I am inclined to agree with the point that many wear big boots anyway (look at the trend for wearing big Doc-type boots with skinnies or slim cut jeans, specially when it gets colder...they look like elevators if you actually think about it, they have big chunky soles etc. That's just the way it is).
The key is to wear what is fitting with what you have. The reason why the Downey Jnrs and Diesels and Stallones look so odd is not that they wear elevators, it's that they seem to wear the specific very heavy styles with all the wrong clothes. Big heavy thick soled elevator boots with suits, the hems sat awkwardly on the top of a big chunk of boot. They would be better wearing the thinner soled ones, and add a bit more lift if they want.
Ron said on 15/Jul/15
Just to add my two cents to elevator shoe experience: I've been using large lifts for a while now to get me from about 5'10.5 to 6'1. I'm used to them, they hurt, but I'm used to them. I splashed out on a pair of Don's D'etnas because I wanted the ease, comfort and extra height I hoped they'd give - and I wanted to look my 6'3 best mate in the eyes so went for the 5.5 inch special order lifts (he teases me all the time about being "short" because he's extremely self conscious that he's stick thin and I'm built like Thor, ironic right that he's now made me chronically self-conscious about my own height?)
They arrived recently and are great - they're well made, fit perfectly, stylish and with beautiful leather and neat stitching. They're also extremely comfortable, I could walk around all day in them! Really, a brillaint investment and I'd recommend all those on the fence go and get a pair. "Don" is also a chuffing nice guy.
Big downside: I got the wrong size lifts - the 4.5inch instead of the 5.5, and with that I can just about reach 6'2 in the boots. This is extremely annoying, but to Don's credit he has sent me a very polite email of apology and he seemed genuinely shocked this could have happened - due to the way he handled the situation I decided to let it slide, honest mistakes happen and no one wins by me agonising over an inch. He also graciously offered me 25% off my next purchase, which I'm not rather sure I'll make use of given how much I've come to rely on my D'etnas.
So - there's my honest experience, if any of you are on the fence here's a solid recommendation! Also be aware though that of course you never get quite the lift the shoe offers and you'll have to be clever in the way you wear the shoes to make the lifts invisible - I for example wear boot-cut jeans with the backs pulled down more to give the illusion that the shoes are completely flat-soled. No one-s noticed yet save one, who I just showed the natural heel too and told him they were just big boots, which seemed to satisfy him completely.
And thanks to Big Rob!
said on 2/Jul/15
Rob is this normal I tried something like lifts I felt weird but I'm 6'1.5 tall barfoted I wear shoes that barley give me a 1/2
[Editor Rob: lifts will feel wierd, your foot angle suddenly is becoming much higher than it's used to.
They aren't for everybody, if you are finished growing and want to look taller, what options are left? Limb-lengthening or Lifts...]
Gx79 said on 25/Jun/15
I'm 6'1 I tried elevator shoes and hated them
said on 24/Jun/15
Is there any boot that isn't elevator shoes that add an inch or more of height and big enough to add lifts to it?
[Editor Rob: that might be pushing it, but some elevators you could probably try to get another cm inside a pair of elevator boots on top of the existing inbuilt lift.]
Dmeyer said on 21/Jun/15
If Jenny is 5'8.25 shoes on you look 4.25in taller 6'0.5 in 184cm
RobV said on 21/Jun/15
There is an increasing number of comments in this section from one-off posters that look a bit suspiciously like ads or self serving comments from those who make the boots! "I bought some from x, they were superb...customer service second to none...buy buy buy now". We do get the picture, and it's OK occasionally, but don't overdo it.
RobV said on 20/Jun/15
@ BobbyG on whether you can wear 5" elevators with skinnies. Well, you CAN but I have generally discovered that the entire bottom part of the outfit has to be all one colour and the same as your pants/jeans (eg, black skinnies and black 5" elevators).
There IS some logic about the completely counter-intuitive. If you look for example at the GuidoMaggi site, you will see the model wearing elevators with loads of pants that show the boots openly (but it doesn't say what lift there is in the boots, vital).
And the recent trend in any event for skinnies and big boots means that you can get away with it in some situations. I look at some shots of guys in skinnies and bog boots, like on TopMan, and think: "are they wearing elevators?"). But you really DO have to know what you are doing. I do it, it looks v good, but I do finesse it v carefully.
Vanners said on 17/Jun/15
I purchased a pair of Don's and were so impressed I've purchased a second pair. He not only produces a top-quality shoe, but he was able to recreate the latest Gucci's very well. Prices are very reasonable and service is great.
My second pair were the mid sole tech. With these, you cannot even tell you're wearing elevator shoes.
iam1,82 said on 14/Jun/15
i feel a short men ,i need this shoes.
my dream is get 1,88. i would the most happy guy of the world
said on 12/Jun/15
So Rob, are you 6ft in the last pic?
[Editor Rob: right around the 6ft mark at that moment, jenny's sneaker isn't much she wasn't that much over the 5ft 8 mark in those sneakers she has on.]
said on 9/Jun/15
Hi Rob, real quick question, are don's 5 inch elevator boots noticeable if you wear them with skinny or slim jeans?
[Editor Rob: yes they look quite bulky up close. I feel it's better to have a boot-cut or longer trouser (2-3 inch longer than you normally wear at least)]
said on 9/Jun/15
Hey there Rob, do you have any recommendations for elevator shoes that make you 3.5- 4 inches taller?
[Editor Rob: I would start out with 2.75 inch elevator shoes, they should give you roughly 2.3 inches of actual height.
Once you are used to those, only then would I say try out the bigger 4 inch styles, it's a big step up...I feel it's best to go low to get used to them...and I only recommend Dons. But another company who look to do decent elevators is the GuidoMaggi's, who some people said were quite well made.
Other companies will use cheaper materials, those two are trying to make superior quality elevators that last long and look good.]
Average Height Person said on 7/Jun/15
I am 5 foot 10.5 inches tall. In reply to ''Bryan (Queenslander)'' 179 cm is considered to be 5 foot 10 and half 179cm = 5 foot 10.47 inches which i round to 5 foot 10.5 inches. Anyway one usefull thing i have found with elevator shoes is in the supermaket. In normal shoes i'm somewhere around 5 foot 11, at that height i cannot reach the very top shelf at the supermarket if someone knows what the exact height of the top shelf is let me know but it's really high up there's even a sign on the shelf telling you to ask for staff to get the items.With elevators and a small lift at 6 foot 1 i can reach it quite easily. 2 extra inches of height allowed me to finally reach the very top shelf items. I don't understand why supermarkets need to put items so high up that even someone who is 5 foot 11 can't reach it though i understand they put a sign up saying to ask for staff but still most people won't be bothered.
said on 4/Jun/15
I tested to use insole lifts (2cm) on my dress shoe. But the problem is my feet is "popping" out of the shoes. Is there anyway to solve the problem? Sorry for bad english!
[Editor Rob: unfortunately that's what happens...you need a shoe with a higher bit of leather where your ankle bone sits. Some shoes might have enough height to them that when you put 1 inch lift in, the foot doesn't slip out.
That's why I'd always buy an elevator shoe eventually - if you decide to wear lifts to look taller - they already have the ankle section much bigger to make room for the built in lift part.]
said on 2/Jun/15
do the don's elevator shoes(the 3.8 in ones) look awkward when you wear them? Is it hard to walk in them and does it really look like you are wearing elevator shoes? thanks.
[Editor Rob: I think the ones Don gave me were one of the first models giving almost 4 inches...maybe they are a bit refined.
It's certainly more comfortable than a man trying to walk in 4 inch ladies heels, but I believe you would need a week of practice and several weeks of building up the time spent using them to get comfortable enough to walk so it looks as natural as possible. It's a big difference going from say a 2.3 inch elevator to 3.8 inch. The angle becomes very high.]
Recent Happy Buyer said on 31/May/15
I recently bought a pair of Don's MST Classic 513 and it is absolutely top class. I've been a user of lift based shoes for about a year now, and I've tried several brands (Calden, TOTO, Calto etc.) and Don's is absolutely superior to them and very, very comfortable - I specifically recommend those with the "Mid-Sole Technology" because they do make a noticable difference in comfort. They are a bit more on the expensive side, but you gotta trust me when I say this but it is worth every penny, and absolutely customized (can pick leather, colors etc.), and does not feel like some cheap "Made in China" feel that you get from the tallermenshoes website.
One last comment I'd like to make that I feel is seriously underrated is Don's customer service - I needed a pair of shoes within a very short time period before work started in the US and Don personally messaged me and updated me throughout the way regarding progress, and made sure it got here on time (which it amazingly did - I was not expecting this). This level of personal care and service really makes the shoes worth every penny - you will fully realize this when you buy your first pair =)
Bryan (Queenslander) said on 30/May/15
@Average Height Person
You're 185cm in 6cm lifts in the morning (179cm barefoot morning means you're not exactly 5'10.5 unless that was actually a lunchtime measurement and not out of bed :p)
I'm 186cm in nike runners upon waking up and dip down to 184.5cm by late afternoon (182cm range barefoot is what i can hold for most of the day)
Jon said on 25/May/15
I just recently purchased a pair of Don's Shoes online.
I am absolutely impressed (Quality, fit, Design, Discretion).
My only regret is that I did not order from him years prior. I just ordered 6 of the same exact shoe, that shows how committed I am to his craft/art.
His shoes have changed my life and business career. Thanks Don!
said on 23/May/15
Rob I was thinking of purchasing my first pair of elevator shoes that is supposed to add 5.2 inches from tallmenshoes.com. I already wear lifts which add about 2 inches in height, how much height would I actually get from the shoes? These are the shoes Click Here
[Editor Rob: they won't actually add that amount, they might give you nearly 4 inches though...
RobV said on 21/May/15
There seems to be a bit of a glut of people asking the same question - are elevators comfortable. I have bought the very highest lift elevators from both Dons and Guido Maggi over the past 2 years (5" elevators) and walk all over London in both. Often for a mile or more at a time and in a day difficult to judge. I can even add a bit more height through a small lift and walk well but this is because I always buy them at least one size larger (to allow for more space).
For me the difference between being my usual 6'2.5" and around 2m (6'6"/6'7"ish) is amazing, the response I get is superb, no-one has ever realised I add to my height, and one thing at this height I suggest - put a bit of work into your body: I built my body up a shedload and at this height it now looks very very impressive - even if you just tone, it SERIOUSLY adds to the impression.
I've said this before here: if anyone wants any tips on all this (I have been using lifts for 15 years and elevators for 2) by all means drop me a line robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk
said on 16/May/15
Hey Rob, I'm around 175cm, will the 2" dons OX 777 increase my height to 180cm? and is that very noticeable to people when i take the shoes off?
[Editor Rob: I think wearing 2 inch shoes won't be as noticeable as if you had 2.7 inch then took the shoes off.
I wouldn't actually worry too much about what you think others may think, because much of the time they aren't that bothered or will quickly forget. I'd say in fact to anybody who raised an eyebrow or questioned you about elevators that they are posture improvement shoes, because they actually do help make you stand more vertically (ones around 2 inches).]
said on 11/May/15
Congrats Rob yesterday your website was quoted during a radio chat on bollywood.
Anyways I just ordered this Adidas shoes online, do you think they will give me about 1.2 inches in height?
[Editor Rob: not seen the oregon latest version up close but looking at the style it appears they should give you a little bit above the inch yes!]
Average Height Person said on 8/May/15
Being 5 foot 10 and half I do consider myself to be short the reason why is: nearly all my friends are taller than me most being 6 foot 1 and one being 6 foot 5. I am also one of the shortest in my family, my younger brother is 6 foot 2. Even though i am older than my brother people for some reason think he's older than me just because he is taller lol.It makes no sense but its true! 9 out of 10 times people say my younger brother is older than me and when i correct them, they say they were mistaken because he is taller than me. Height is relative so for me i do feel a little bit short. I tried using lifts with elevator shoes to make me 6 foot 1 but that made walking immpossible so i just stay as 6 foot and half. the elevator shoes i use have midsole tech making it feel exactly like normal shoes.
said on 24/Apr/15
Rob, were the 2.3 inch Dons comfortable to walk in? Could one walk in them for a day without being in any pain?
[Editor Rob: this was Dons first models. They have improved them over the last 5 years...but the ones I've got I've tested a few times for normal wear like an hour in the house to see what it is like and they were comfortable enough, but I feel if you are going to wear them to work you need to get used to the difference in your feet/legs as men normally at most might be in 1.5 inch boots, going over 2 inches suddenly puts that foot at a bigger unnatural angle and it will take a bit of time to adjust and get your walking looking natural.
Like for 2-3 weeks build up from 30 minutes to 4-5 hours of use. I certainly wouldn't put them on and wear for 4-5 hours straight away!]
6'1" Joe said on 23/Apr/15
lol so much insecurity here. You don't need to wear elevator shoes as long as you're not anything like 4'11". Men here at 5'10, 5'11" are talking about looking 6'1" or 6'2", think about those men who're not than 5'0".
Average Height Person said on 15/Apr/15
I'm 5 foot 10 and half and decided to buy a pair of elevator shoes. I got shoes advertised as a 7.5 cm increase but actually only gave me a 6cm increase to my height. In the morning with these shoes I'm 185cm (nearly 6 foot 1) and in the evening/night about 184cm (about 6 foot and half). What I'm wondering is can I add shoe lifts to these elevator shoes so I can be in the 6 foot 1 range. Can you add shoe lifts to elevator shoes?
said on 4/Apr/15
For what it's worth, I have bought 3 pairs of elevators over the past 18 months, all from the 2 places which seem to be the best quality - GuidoMaggi and Don's. I bought the d'Etnas from Don's Click Here
and the Shanghai boots from GuidoMaggi. Click Here
In both cases I ordered the 5" versions.
My first were from Don's and apart from the fact that I received the 4" rather than the 5" ones, they were excellent boots. The look good with most things and perhaps quite amazingly they can be worn with skinny jeans showing. That is a real plus. More often though you wear them with jeans etc and they are fine for that purpose.
The GuidoMaggi boots are more expensive and are really superb. They look just like normal boots but really good quality ones.
What has occurred to me with these, for potential buyers, is that 5" elevators HAVE to have that chunky sole, the kinda gettagrip heavy duty sole you see on work boots. If that suits (and it is quite fashionable right now anyway) then great. But if you go for the 4" ones, OK you lose an inch but the boots themselves are flat soled and you really would never know the difference. For example this one Click Here
is similarish to my Shanghai, slightly taller shaft but has a flatter sole. Anyone who wants or needs something like that is best sticking to the 4" elevators: frankly if you buy them a little larger in size than your normal shoesize, then if you WANT another inch you can probably do so with lifts etc.
I have answered many questions from guys on this site (and made some good friends, sharing our secret!) so if you ever want advice I am robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk I have been using lifts for almost 15 years and latterly with the advent of the better elevators from companies like Dons and GuidoMaggi, I have worn more of these. I am still also looking for any contacts who can do custom made elevators that copy established styles and boots. To my amazement, all my enquiries and attempts have drawn blanks.
minuteman92 said on 31/Mar/15
The confidence boost that I experienced from these shoes is unreal. As pathetic as it sounds, these have changed my self-esteem completely. If you feel like youre "too short," give Dons shoes a try.
Matt said on 23/Mar/15
Actually been too tall would have disadventage. I think the perfect male height is 6.1, You just look too lanky if your above 6foot1. Looks can be achieve with a Healthy weight(Not being overweight) And dressing sharp.Im 179cm and i do wear lifts(1.25 inch lift) Inside dress shoes(1.25 heel). Those elevators shoes look ridiculous.They look chunky. I get too 6 foot with those shoes.I really like that height.
said on 14/Mar/15
Ok thanks for your advice, really I would like to appear at least 1.1" over supposedly barefoot. I think in order to get that I'd need 2.1-2.2" in total? Would the 2.75 style give around that? I appreciate your help
[Editor Rob: yes that shoe should give you about this 2.1-2.2 range, and it is a nice one too.]
said on 8/Mar/15
Thanks, what do you think the 4 inch style on this shoe would give? Click Here
[Editor Rob: I think in 3-3.2 inch range of actual height. It is a nice shoe, personally if I was buying that boot I'd go with 2.5 or 75 style as it will have a nicer shape than 4-inch...and I think you will find it more comfortable to wear more often than the 4-inch models.]
said on 7/Mar/15
Rob, im planning to buy elevator shoes but im confused. I wear 8/8.5's on shoes like nike, vans or anything else but when i try on dress shoes i'm lost on what my size is. I wanna know what my size is like in Don's, what do you think my size will be?
[Editor Rob: you are best emailing the dons your foot length exactly, then they might be better suited to tell you which shoe size to go for.]
said on 6/Mar/15
Do you think shoes like these from dons Click Here
the 3.1" type would give 2.6-2.75? or would I have to get a 4" type?
[Editor Rob: might give you around 2.5 inch]
RobV said on 5/Mar/15
@ Roshe You are asking about adding 7cm in lifts (just under 3"). As a long term lift and elevator wearer myself, I can tell you that you can only get 3" of lifts into boots. Editor Rob is quite right that you really must buy these boots at least one size bigger (if you buy them your actual size you just will not get 7cm into them and be able to fit your foot into them (it depends upon the fitting, but that is what I have found).
One of the problems with people trying to jam lifts into same-size boots is that the upper then really presses into the top of your foot which is v uncomfortable. I myself often buy boots TWO sizes larger. Don't be too hung up on sizing - the great thing about using lifts against elevators is that you can have almost any size (fashionable/maintream/whatever) and add height. I have used elevators more recently because of the styles that are around, but I still like having lifts to put into the latest trainers etc.
You cannot fit 3" of lifts into any flat/work style shoe, so don't try - your feet will fall off.
In boots, the lifts should not show - just make sure the boots are big enough so you do not get that look where you cannot do laces up or where there is too much pressure.
said on 1/Mar/15
Hey Rob, I'm going to get a 7cm lifts. What type of shoes should I use? Do you think people will notice that I'm wearing lifts? Thank you.
[Editor Rob: get a boot 1 size bigger than normal and then put lifts in them. If your trousers or jeans are long enough to cover a lot of the boot many would never realise you had lifts.]
said on 24/Feb/15
Hi Rob, Great site as ever. Would you think these boots give near 1.5 inches?
[Editor Rob: I think they should give you that no bother]
said on 23/Feb/15
Rob, if you and Jenny had kids, they'd be tall, I bet. I notice that parents who are the same height, even if the guy is on the short side, usually end up with tall offspring. The height of the woman is more important than the height of the man, it seems, so if the woman is tall, like Jenny, the children are tall, more often than not. You guys would have nice looking kids.
[Editor Rob: since Jenny has 6 years on me, I think that ship has sailed by us.]
said on 21/Feb/15
Hey Rob! I'm exactly 5'6 1/2, and I was wondering, if i buy a Dons casual shoe(Ralph Lauren Tribute to be exact) with a heel choice of 1.5", will i achieve a standing height of 5'8" while wearing them? Thanks!
[Editor Rob: the 1.5 inch style should give you pretty near it, maybe like 1.3-1.4 inches of actual height, the 2 inch might give you 1.7-1.8 inches.
I'd buy the bigger version and then you will comfortably measure a little bit over the 5ft 8 mark. ]
Sean5 said on 16/Feb/15
On this years valentines night at my local night club I was on the dance floor and got approached by a very attractive girl with her group of friends behind her, she explained they were playing some party game and on the card the dare was to kiss the tallest man in the room/dance floor and it happened to be me. Lucky thing was There were 3 people who I could see that were a bit shorter and also I was lucky for wearing good shoe lifts. Was a valentines to remember! I stood 6'3.25 in lifts + high tops would that mean I'd appear the same height as most 6'2 men would in casual footwear?
said on 15/Feb/15
Are the huge pair of dons you're wearing on the bottom picture the D'etna 5 inch type?
[Editor Rob: yeah I think that is the type.]
said on 13/Feb/15
Rob, if I wear 2 inches shoes regularly, will my height decrease?
[Editor Rob: no, it shouldn't - if you wore big heels a fair amount then possibly over many years it might contribute to some changes.]
TMS said on 13/Feb/15
See the thing about elevator shoes is that even if they dont make you very much taller, they give you the appearance of being much taller. For example, I'm about 5'10.5 (180 cm) and own a pair of elevator shoes that are "3 inches" but really give me about 2 inches. So, when I wear them I am close to 6'1. However, everyone asks me if I am 6'2 or even 6'3. They're quite sneaky!
said on 12/Feb/15
ROB,wanted your opinion on these shoes
how high do you think these shoes are?? (these are of a celebrity with avarage height)
compared to these (are of an average college student
another one for comparison
.....thanks in advance
[Editor Rob: the sneakers might give about 0.7inch, the boots maybe a little over 1 inch]
RobV said on 5/Feb/15
@Mathew and Lebensdorf. You ask about adding extra height and do women find it attractive when you are taller. As I have learned when wearing lifts and elevators, adding extra height does make a difference to perceptions and attractiveness. But you have to do it in a way that is not detectable. It is fairly straightforward and undetectable adding a couple of inches (and that extra height is really noticeable). More and you have to take care of what you wear etc. I add 5" and as I know how to do it, it works big time.
Mathew said on 5/Feb/15
Lebensdorf says on 3/Feb/15
Do you guys think women find looks or height more attractive? I think ugly men who are tall are actually more attractive to women than otherwise decent looking men who are short or average, or an average looking short man who suddenly become very "handsome" if they were very tall. Look at Hayden Panettiere's boyfriend, or husband now, or whatever. Do you think she would be with him if he were like 5'11 or something? Doubtful. Also, I think if Haley Joel Osment were about 6'5 he would be considered a hunk.
Well certainly it varies and it depends on the degree of each. In general, tall has been shown in experiments to be one of the attractive thing a man can be. The majority of women probably find 5'7.5" Tom Cruise more attractive than 6'9.25" NBA star Anthony Davis. Would an average looking 30 year old 5'10" man be more attractive to a larger portion of women if he woke up tomorrow and was 6'2"? It sure would. But would it make him more attractive than an extra handsome 5'10" man? Nah, probably not.
Lebensdorf said on 3/Feb/15
Do you guys think women find looks or height more attractive? I think ugly men who are tall are actually more attractive to women than otherwise decent looking men who are short or average, or an average looking short man who suddenly become very "handsome" if they were very tall. Look at Hayden Panettiere's boyfriend, or husband now, or whatever. Do you think she would be with him if he were like 5'11 or something? Doubtful. Also, I think if Haley Joel Osment were about 6'5 he would be considered a hunk.
RobV said on 2/Feb/15
@Sean5 on how to pay for Dons. You can also do a transfer from your bank, easy if you have online banking.
said on 30/Jan/15
How did you buy your pair of dons? I live in North Wales and it seems they only take US Dollars?
[Editor Rob: if you pay through paypal (using your cc) then it will be fine and just convert the $ to £ at checkout.]
RobV said on 29/Jan/15
@Shawn Well this is the funny thing - the 4"/5" boots are quite the opposite of difficult to walk in. As well as the Don's, I also just got some 5" GuidoMaggi boots (my highest) and it took me four or five wears to get it totally 100% right but now I walk and feel completely natural. Even then when I was starting to wear them it was just the kinda natural effect you get with any new footwear.
What is interesting is that they are also my most comfortable boots (both pairs). This may be because of course the elevators are designed as such and I am not necessarily adding more lifts (I do add a tad more in certain circumstances when I want to be taller if there's another real tall guy around!). Last night I wore the 5" GMs travelling (on a flight, off, home etc) and had no probs at all.
I think you have to get used to walking higher (like women get used to wearing heels, it's v similar as a concept). But 'difficult to walk in' is not something I have an issue with.
btw I just checked the RDJ shots and footwear again and he doesn't wear stuff as high as that - what is annoying with him is that he wears stuff in a way which screams elevator/added height, but he is in a position to buy and wear stuff which would just be so so much more discreet at that height. He doesn't need for it to look so obvious (a bit like Stallone I guess). But some guys get stuck on their own style and will not move - also with elevators you 100% HAVE to wear them with the right things. There really is no point in wearing a clumpy great pair of elevator trainers or boots with smart trousers crumpled over the upper of the boots. It would be fine if that were a current style or look but it is just not - it shouts that you have added height as it is not a current style idea.
Interestingly if they looked at what was stylish and adapted it, they would never be rumbled. It is an odd thing right now that in UK and Europe, skinny jeans are really v popular. They would normally be the last thing you would wear elevator boots with, but the current LOOK (or one of the current looks) is for clumpy boots with them. I actually wear my Don's in particular with stretch skinnies and it just looks like the look that loads of other guys have. If that style were NOT popular and I carried on doing it, it would call attention and then someone might think the boots look odd. A lot is about how you wear them. With my 5" GMs I wears less skintight jeans but with a good line and NOT crumpled over the boot.
Lebensdorf said on 29/Jan/15
I think most women would consider a man under 6 feet to be short, or at least "on the short side." I know that sounds harsh but I think this is the reality. That doesn't mean that this is unattractive, just not as impressive, that's all. But it's no big deal. The fact of the matter is, 5'11 is just not as "tall" as it used to be. 6 feet may sound prestigious but it is not impressive anymore. I think 6'3-6'4 is respectably tall, and anything above that is legit tall. But the 6 foot range, that's pretty common, you wouldn't stand out. I think 6'4 is a perfect height for a man, in my opinion. It's not "too tall" at all, not by a long shot, not today.
said on 28/Jan/15
Rob you might want to add the caption to the above photo "See, I ate all of my green and did some stretches every day for a week and I magically grew a few inches! :-) Can you believe the cheek of using that photo to promote "natural" honest height gain. It really is ludicrous!!
[Editor Rob: I have no problem if somebody was doing a video and talking about elevator shoes and saying look at this photo, you can get 2 inches out of them...but it's just misrepresenting and adding to the false idea that these products give you 3 inches in 90 days or whatever outlandish claim it is!
Don't get me started on the Indian Height Guru though!
and video proof would have G buying a ticket to Delhi if he watched these cm's of gains in days!]
Shawn said on 27/Jan/15
Rob, I can almost guarantee the height increase you're getting wearing the Big Don's is what Robert Downey Jr. is getting from his footwear. Those shoes must be very difficult to walk in.
RobV said on 27/Jan/15
Over on the general height section, someone who is 16 asked me about wearing elevators/lifts. I didn't start till I was 19/20 and I think it all really depends upon lifestyle. If you really want to make yourself taller, then at that age there are so many factors. I would start a bit lower with just an inch of lift put in as a shoelift and not as an elevator boot (undetectable and it is also the kind of addition you get just from certain types of boots) and see how it fits your lifestyle. If it works out OK then you can go higher. I thought it worth posting here.
The guy in question who asked is just under 6' and wants to get to 6'2". That's really quite easy in the medium term, and because he is already tall, it is easier to do undetectably.
said on 26/Jan/15
Rob, can you go back to your morning height if you finish you working-out session by a few stretching exercises?
[Editor Rob: nah, you need a few hours of rest so your discs can properly rehydrate.]
ARod said on 19/Jan/15
I bought two gorgeous shoes from Don's Footwear, the OX-51 and the
MST Quiri2. My first order was the MST Quiri2. Due to my lack of attention to detail I ordered the wrong material or "finish." I thought the glossy was their "Patent Black" and found myself having to get a hold of Don and asking for an exchange. As a customer one is a bit skeptic of the quality of service a person may get working with someone so far away. I mean what can you do when the shoes come from overseas. Don truly left me amazed with the consistent communication via-email. Yes the shoes took a bit longer then what I wanted but they were worth the wait. Three words... Quality, Quality, Quality.
While waiting for my exchange Don made me feel confident enough to place another order. I then ordered the OX-51 (gorgeous brown). They arrived first because Don had to go back to the "drawing board" for the black pair. When I saw the OX-51 I couldn't be any happier. Again, quality. I understand they take a while, listen that kind of sucks! As for me... I have a list going. I know what shoes I want next.
Listen if your impatient you can buy a pair that may look good, and yes they will get to you a lot sooner. If you can be patient you can get a pair of shoes you will love, and when people look at them they know by the material that you paid a pretty penny for them. They are worth the wait.
said on 19/Jan/15
Rob, when they say that working out makes you shrink a little bit (a few mm), do they talk about long term or are they just referring the fact of losing your morning height more quickly?
[Editor Rob: it's more the strain/stress on your spine making you shrink quicker to your lowest height.
Also if you become dehydrated during the workout it may also push you further down to an absolute low which is a few mm under your normal low.]
Rob V said on 19/Jan/15
btw on those contacts with a good bootmaker who might be able to do custom-made elevators, you can contact me on robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk I have had two recommended already but more will be welcome.
RobV said on 15/Jan/15
Does anyone know a good bootmaker (UK/US/Europe) that does custom-made elevators? From your own designs/favourite boots? I'm thinking modern stuff as well as traditional.
said on 3/Jan/15
@vfpswiftie Look American? Are you going by his features or his clothing on that picture on this page. I guess the clothing could make him seem like a southern american country guy with those jeans and the big boots I guess. Not sure how he sounds German though. Then again the German I meet spoke with an American accent but his mom is American and he lived in the USA for about 2 years or so.
Also Rob is the average there in Scotland just a flat 5 feet 9 or is it nearer 5 feet 10? 5 feet 9 on the dot would seem slightly low I guess. I think the average in the United States is 5ft 9.5 for men of all ages and races.
[Editor Rob: In Scotland and England it is right around the 5ft 9 mark overall, the youth 18-30 range have near 5ft 10 average though.]
said on 3/Jan/15
Eob, I have a question and its a little personal one, if you are 5ft8 which is an inch under the average American male height, are you American or German because you sound like German but looks like American?
[Editor Rob: I am from Scotland, the average here is still 5ft 9 aswell.]
RobV said on 26/Dec/14
@G These are the first GuidoMaggi (GM) boots I have bought and they are excellent. From the bottom of the heel to the top of the lift is 5" which means that you gain about 4" in height - you always lose some with angle etc (i have never quite understood this but the Editor here - also called Rob - has done stuff about this on a youtube clip I think). This of course means that you are 3" taller than you appear in the same kind of boots without lifts. So as I am just a bit over 6'2" barefoot, I am 2m-ish wearing them (between 6'6" and 6'7").
The Don's I bought last year (d'Etnas) were 4" to which I added a 1" lift. For some reason I did not receive the 5" ones I wanted. They have exactly the same effect as the GMs and are good boots, in spite of the missing inch!
I mentioned here recently that I was going to buy the 5.5" d'Etnas but decided against, as a contact on here who went for some did not get the full extra. He measured the 'bottom of heel to top of lift' and it was just over 4", quite a lot less than the 5.5". This would have led to a lower height increase of course. I already have a Don's 4" pair (to which I add a 1" lift) and these have exactly the same height effect as the GMs. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has managed to get the 5'5" Don's d'Etna.
The GM model was the Shanghai and it is incredibly comfortable (as indeed are the Don's d'Etnas). There are no issues with comfort as they are built specifically with the intention of providing that kind of lift. If anything they are both the most comfortable boots I have ever worn.
It is of course easy for me to say 'go for the max' because I now do and have got there over the years having worn lifts which, on reflection, were kinda incremental - I got to my height over a period of time. Similarly, always remember that a 5" elevator gives you about 3"+ on top of what you would be wearing similar boots but without elevators. Once you buy something smaller, you will always then want to buy the taller. So I would just do it.
If you need any more info feel free to contact me on robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk. I have met a lot of people on here who have wanted advice on elevators/lifts etc.
snatch said on 25/Dec/14
i wore lifts 1 time in my life and it looked hilarious
it looked so funny that i would make homophobic remarks about
my self to
it looked funny
my only point is Come As You Are
G said on 24/Dec/14
@RobV Do you find the 5" GMs you bought give you the full 5" this time or less? How about the Dons? Exactly which model GM 5" boots did you go for and how are they to walk in? I bought some cheap 5" shoes last year off the net but they only give 3" and a bit awkward. Would you still reccomend going for 5" or maybe slightly less for comfort?
RobV said on 24/Dec/14
@ snatch The problem with saying people look 'hilarious' wearing elevators is, of course that you have never seen anyone doing so. If you had ever seen someone using lifts, you would know that your comment is simply weird.
The key to all things is, particularly in the season of supposed goodwill, is tolerance of others' choices and not to make up false justifications for attacking those choices. Making lame homophobic remarks about dropping soap in prison is a particularly stupid and crass remark to make.
Ba said on 24/Dec/14
I ordered a pair of Dons shoes and of course was scared being they were 235 dollars and across the sea but they came back so well made and looking great. As with any new leather boots I had to break them in which only took a few wears and I could not be happy
thanks Don you will hear from me again
snatch said on 23/Dec/14
i find it funny I'm 5 foot 8 and never had the thought of wearing lifts
shame on the men who are over 6 feet and wearing lifts
there are men out there that would love to be 6 feet flat
and yet there are 6 foot 2 men wearing 3 inch shoes
id rather walk around barefoot around 6 foot men wearing lifts
that wear lifts and join the circus
haha and the way you walk when you wear lifts is hilarious it looks
like you dropped the soap to many times in prison enjoy you new look
Lebensdorf said on 22/Dec/14
Thanks, RobV, I am going to try the D'Etna from Don's.
RobV said on 17/Dec/14
@Lebensdorf I have now bought two pairs of 5” elevators, one from Don's and one just received from GuidoMaggi. And both, funny enough, are THE most comfortable things I have ever worn. And this is really because they are designed to cushion and to create boots which allow for the added height. Whenever I have tried to add, say, anything above 3” in boots which are NOT elevators, I can only do that if the boots are 2 sizes bigger than what I usually wear. That's fine and it works but is not as good as elevators if you can get a style you really like. I am not sure I have ever managed to really add 5” comfortably or easily in any non-elevator boots without compromising the style (and causing discomfort). And it looks fine, but for comfort, these 2 pairs I have recently bought are in a different league.
It appears that the real reason that 5” is the highest they really go is that at just below that level, slightly over 4”, any further added height has to be achieved by a thicker sole. This actually looks really cool on sturdy boots, but is no good for shoes, unless a style were to develop fashion-wise that allowed for that. But it means a full cushion designed to allow you to walk at that height. I have walked for miles in my Dons and will put the GuidoMaggis (GMs) through the same.
But no, no trouble at all walking - the real key to elevators that high is to make sure they they LOOK right with what you are wearing. It has to be pants and a style that goes with boots, the boots should not fit too tight as they can look clumpy (always buy at least a size larger than you would normally buy, trust me that is a real must). But interestingly with both the Dons and the GMs, I can wear skinny jeans which you cannot with a lot of elevator styles - they look too obvious.
said on 15/Dec/14
OK you might remember I had recently said I had taken the plunge after receiving a special offer from the ultra expensive elevator makers GuidoMaggi (GM). Well they arrived real quick, a 5" elevator in a very trendy and current style. They are just fab, f*$@#*g wonderful. I am just so pleased I did.
The styling and workmanship is superb, and what is best is that no-one would think they are elevators. I have actually worn them with very tight skinny jeans and they look totally right (in fairness my Don's d'Etnas are the same, but most other styles it is just not possible to do this). I am really bothered about even the slightest possibility of not looking right in such circumstances and usually elevators have to be slightly concealed. But when I saw the v professional promos on their site, they clearly showed guys walking around wearing them like that and they looked good/undetectable. Now I thought, cynical me, "yeah these ones in the promos are probably very low elevators which you CAN wear with skinnies and slim cut." But no, the 5" ones are just amazing and look exactly like the ones in the clips when you wear them out.
Emanuele (at GM) 'great stuff, mate. Now we would love you bring the prices right down:) But understand why they are so expensive. You pay for quality.'
[Editor Rob: they are very expensive, but then, sometimes you are better paying 3 or 400 dollars for something you are going to look good in and they won't fall apart...many of the cheaper manufacturers who churn out low end elevators should be avoided.]
said on 15/Dec/14
Rob: basically I just measured it again on Google with the inches you said 2.5 and it says I would be 5ft 7 1/2. Also don't you think the sambos could give a 2.8 inch? 2.5 from the advertisement of 3.1 is a lot thanks rob.
[Editor Rob: the ones that are advertised as 3.1 I believe would give somewhere in the 2.5-2.6 range, I explained it a little in a video on the 'heel height' page on this site, why we don't really get as much as heels/elevator shoes are advertised.]
Lebensdorf said on 14/Dec/14
RobV, do you ever find that you have trouble walking with the 5 inch lift?
said on 8/Dec/14
Rob I am 5'5 if I get dons sambo shows (3.1inch) will I be close to 5'6
[Editor Rob: since they might give about 2.5 inches you are going to appear like say a 5ft 6.5 man or even close to 5ft 7 depending on what other people are wearing...many men will have 0.5-1.25 inch footwear while yours are 2.5 inches.
So you are gaining probably 1.5-1.75 inches more than them with the dons.]
RobV said on 27/Nov/14
@ TGWM And best of all, mate, no-one will notice either, so it matters even less what they think. What you say sums it up - if you wear what looks fitting for where you are (office, club, bar, wherever), then no-one will notice. WHere problems begin is when people (once again, Downey Jnr, Stallone et al) where these clunking great things with suit trousers flapping up over a great wedge (for heaven's sake) at black tie/red carpet events. Then it's "all eyes on the footwear...what is that all about?"
The irony being that they COULD wear these boots at such an event if the trousers were made to look right with them. No doubt they do not earn very much so cannot afford a decent pair of $200 pants with $20 of altering. It's probably time this site had a whip round (ie a collection of cash for them, in case anyone misinterprets that phrase).
And Steve, never yet saw the Barbazza by Don. It looks good on the site, specially in Black.
Steve said on 26/Nov/14
don's shoes are the best quality shoes I have seen in years. I just purchased a pair of black Barbazza Boots and they are beautiful and comfortable. Thanks To Don's Elevator Shoes. Steve, Columnus. ohio
said on 26/Nov/14
Hi rob I was looking at dons mid sole technology they advertise ones at 3.1 inch lift do you think you would get that full lift because of the mid sole tech.
[Editor Rob: you still won't quite get that if they are measuring at the very back...more like 2.7-8 range]
Lebensdorf said on 25/Nov/14
When I was in high school, I was 5'11 in my senior year. I was about 5'10 in 9th grade, about 5'10.75 in 11th grade, and a full 5'11 by the time I graduated, when I was 18. Lots of guys in my class towered over me. I didn't feel tall at tall. I think my generation (I'm 27) is pretty tall, and the kids who are in high school now, some of them are giants. I live in the US. I'm from the NYC area. It's different depending on your location. I remember, there were even some girls around my height, and I often felt kind of short. When I came back and visited a few years later, at age 21, I was 6'1. My old teachers said, "Hey, you got tall!" I think this illustrates the difference between those under six feet and those over. It was a growth spurt of only two inches but somehow it made all the difference in the world to these people. 5'11 is really not tall in today's world. Pretty soon 6 feet will be the average height in the US for men, in about 20 years.
TGWN said on 22/Nov/14
As I mentioned in my first post, I have played around with height increasing footwear for years. I work in an office environment and manage a group of about 25 engineers and as far as they are concerned, I am about 6' 3 1/2" (and on some days a bit more or less). We have become a 'close-knit' group over the years and despite this, I am VERY confident none of them are even aware of my real height and they simply see me as a 'taller than average person'. We not only work together in the office, but head out to social events together as well. I live in Canada where 'Stats Canada' (official government statistical branch) pegs the average Canadian male over 20 years of age at 5'8.6" (which seems shorter than what I typically observe, but Canada does have a higher Asian population that maybe brings the overall average down. If this is the statistic, then I guess I sometimes 'tower' as the term is used over the average by about 6" assuming the average person is also wearing shoes that boost them by an inch. My barefoot height is 6' 1/2". The gist of all this is: no one notices this type of height gain. Depending on the type of footwear I wear day to day, my total height varies by a good 1.5"; AND despite this routine 'change', no-one notices, comments or likely cares either. I will be wearing my 'formal d'Etnas' (see earlier post on this) with internal lift to the office without any qualms or worries. These I hope will get me to + 6' 4" and do I worry what people are going to think? No, and I don't really care either. I would have a go at wearing the 5.5" d'Etnas to work as well but the appearance of the boot itself won't fit in with the office. I will be wearing these 'ultra-tall d'Etnas every where else though and without any concern. I agree totally with all of RobV's comments and he has actually spurred me on to trying insert lifts again in addition. If you are going to fret and worry about what other people will think, then you might as well wear plain grey suits and blend into the crowd as best you can.
RobV said on 20/Nov/14
Ever since I posted my e-mail address in this section following my posts about my own experiences, I have heard from loads of tall guys who either want to be taller, or who already use lifts/elevators to make themselves taller, including TGWN who mentions it below. It reinforces what I have said before that already tall guys are often more aware of the advantages of the extra inches - maybe because they know that they can achieve them. Good luck with the 5.5" d'Etnas mate.
TGWN said on 15/Nov/14
Based on some commentary here on this site and a lengthy email conversation with RobV (thanks RobV), I have gone ahead and ordered a pair of ultra tall d'Etnas (5.5") from Don's. Also, Don's has a coupon offer there at the moment, so I also ordered a second pair of d'Etnas in a slightly more formal look (look at his website and pan through the photos of the D'etna. What I call the formal boot is shown in black, has a thinner sole, and is captioned "toe cap seam removed and panel edges rounded". Maximum height on this is 4"). I have also ordered in one size larger which will allow me to play with some internal lift as well. My maximum height right now is 6' 4 3/4" (just measured). Hopefully the ultra d'Etnas with me adding some internal lift will get me to 6' - 5.5" (or dare I say 6' -6"). The formal d'Etna? Well, I will have no problem wearing that in my office working environment. In the office, I currently am at 6' - 3.5"; I am hoping these get me to over 6'- 4", again with some help with added internal lift. Looking forward to receiving the d'Etnas and my first trip to the coffee shop in the ultra tall!
RobV said on 14/Nov/14
@Ytb Welcome to the club, mate. I am just a tad over 6'2" (almost 190cm) and I wear elevators and lifts to get to 6'5"/6'6"+. Just ordered my first 5" GuidoMaggis and about to go back in and try to get those 5.5"/6" Don's d'Etna boots if they are now ready for production.
Ytb said on 13/Nov/14
I'm about 6 foot 1 and I war lifts to get to 6 foot 3-4
RobV said on 13/Nov/14
Re Guido Maggi. Well I took the plunge. I didn't mean to (cost!). But taking advantage of a 24 hour Veterans Day offer from the firm that landed in my inbox, I paid today for a pair of 5" elevator Guido Maggi boots. I actually spoke to the guy who runs the company and he is amazingly helpful, interested in everything, committed to his business and really understands the need for elevators to be fashionable.
I will keep you informed on the outcome - my size is bigger than their usual largest (US 14, EU 47, UK 13.5) so they have to be specially made. No extra charge just a little extra time needed. Can't wait.
Lebensdorf said on 12/Nov/14
RobV, yes, the visible heel is part of the advertised increase, which is why I always subtract an inch when considering the lift, since everyone is already wearing about an inch as it is. What I really hate is the clomp clomp sound that the shoes make when you walk, unless you walk slowly. I don't know if you experience this. Is it hard to walk with a 5 inch lift?
RobV said on 11/Nov/14
@ Lebensdorf. The important point is that the inch or so in heel is factored into the advertised elevator lift. This is not a criticism of those who make them but it does tend to make me always err on the side of going for taller (along with quality).
Some might be inclined to look at stats and say "why bother?" but it really DOES make a difference.
But as Editor Rob once said (I think in a video), more height is gained from heels than from elevators per inch so it is always worth thinking of a not-too-high heel when such boots are in fashion (along with a damned great elevator/lift inside as well of course!)
Lebensdorf said on 9/Nov/14
TGWN, I think, as a general rule, you have to subtract 1.5 inches from the advertised increase. I have two pairs of elevators which are advertised to make the wearer 4 inches taller, but only make me 2.5 inches taller than my barefoot height. Then subtract an additional inch, because most men around you would not be barefoot. Most guys would be wearing about an inch of heel. So, practically speaking, when out and about, an advertised increase of 4 inches makes one appear only 1.5 inches taller. "5.5 inches" would make you 3 inches taller.
RobV said on 7/Nov/14
@TGWN. You are really exactly like me in being well above average in height but 'just want to be taller' by using elevators. And you ask me how the 5.5/6" d'Etnas of Don's worked out. I did buy some but alas there were a few technical issues and they were not the 5.5"/6" ones that I ended up getting. Don very kindly and quickly reimbursed me with no probs and I am going to order from him again now that the problem is resolved! I do however already have the 4" d'Etnas to which I add a 1" lift.
For what it is worth, I am 6'2" barefoot and when I wear the d'Etnas with the 4" elevator + 1"added lift (total 5"), I get to just under 6'6".
But (and this applies to all elevators), remember one thing. I have a pair of boots exactly like that with no elevator, and if I were to wear these without any lifts inside (no way!), my height goes to over 6'3" anyway (with the 1"+ heel you get on most workboot styles). So the true extra gain is really less than 3". That is no criticism, just a point I make about ALL elevators from my experience.
So here for ease is my little table of how I measure:
Wearing a workboot with no lift/elevator 6'3.25"
Wearing a 4" elevator workboot 6'4.75 (just under 6'5")
Wearing a 4" elevator + 1" lift 6'5.5ish
Assumed height with 5.5"/6" elevator 6'6 - 6'6.5
The key to really going for 'added height' is really the difference between you wearing normal footwear and wearing your elevators - and you can see that for example if you wear something that is advertised as 5", the actual difference in my case from wearing normal footwear to wearing my elevators is only a good 2" or 2.5". When talking about elevators, people tend to compare measuring from barefoot to their 'new' height in the elevators. This of course is not entirely rational in terms of considering the impact of your added height generally, if that is what you are looking for - after all, you always wear footwear, and even those with whom you do not wear it (around the home etc) factor in that when you put a pair of boots on you are a bit taller (people do not even think about it).
So if you are talking about wanting to be thought of as 2" or 3" taller, then rationally you have to think in terms of that added height being from what you are in your normal footwear to what you are in the elevators. And that means the higher elevators.
Of course, most people do not wear workboot styles every day (and these are a higher start point of course than most work shoes etc). But trainers have the same effect, so do Timberlands and so do a lot of current styles.
You are quite right in not trying to put too much additional shoe lift into footwear that is your normal size. I myself have tended to use lifts wit bigger size boots because in the past elevators were pretty dreadful 'old mannish' stuff. With what I do I always have to be current. That is changing, which is good.
And I too wear some heels as well and it is an old saying in the elevator world (!) - you really do get way more height extra per inch from heels than you do from elevators. So a bit of a heel on a boot is no bad thing (and for me with a stack of added lift inside).
And yeah, mate, 4" added height is my thing as well. Perfect. And the styles are getting more varied. Still also toying with buying those GuidoMaggi boots but they are just so expensive. Getting closer to it though!
When I get my 5.5"/6" d'Etnas I will let you know on here how it has worked and what addition I get. How they fit/look etc.
I would be interested in knowing which hiknig boot style you bought. You can post it here, or to me at robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk
RobV said on 7/Nov/14
@ babis1860 You mention wanting to guarantee getting an extra 2.5" height from elevators and that you're buying from Don's. Depending upon what style you want, I suggest buying the 4", for one reason - you get an inch+ anyway from any boots you are wearing (so, if you like, all boots are elevators to some degree!). I have bought from Don's. I wanted the 5" ones to take me from 6'2" to 6'6" (assuming a 4") and ended up with 4" ones + an inch lift: without the added lift, when I tried them, the 4" ones added just over 2.5" of height - which would take you from your 5'9.25" to 6'. Let me know hows it goes.
RobV said on 7/Nov/14
@ Lee on the idea of lifts making your arms look short! This is honestly one of those areas that is just not even worth bothering thinking about. A guy I know who is actually my height when I am wearing my elevators (he doesn't know I do, of course) has arms that are way SHORTER than mine. So that is the opposite of what you are referring to - there is no way I could suggest or think 'you must be wearing elevators' simply because of that. The variations in all these little areas of body proportion are so great in terms of % etc because of genetics that the last thing anyone thinks is that it might be to do with wearing lifts etc.
There is no way that, even if you magically acquired 6" in extra height with the same arms, that that would even be thought of by anyone (except yourself!).
Lee said on 5/Nov/14
@RobV, do you have any issue with your arms looking short when wearing such big lifts (3-4 inches), or is your wingspan long enough to compensate for the extra height? I'm 5'8", and my wingspan is only 2 inches longer than my height. I'm thinking about getting 3 inch lifts but I don't know if they would make my arms look weirdly out of proportion.
TGWN said on 3/Nov/14
Came across this website a while ago and find it very interesting. I have played around with height increasing footwear for years and all the issues discussed hear ring so true. I am at exactly 6'-1/2" and for some reason 'just want to be taller'. I wear quite a variety of footwear including square toed harness boots with a 2.75" exposed chunky heel to 'true' elevator shoes with the hidden heel. The highest pair I have gets me to a solid 6' - 4 1/2" and I frankly I love it. The extra 4" come in a hiking boot style with an advertised 5.5" lift which provides me with a true full 4" gain. I don't use lift inserts as I have never had much comfort with them, but maybe I should try again, but my current footwear is all 'true to my size' so I doubt I could comfortably do it without buying more (oversize) footwear.
I have read a lot here about "Don's", but it sounds they suffer from the same issue of 'real height add is much less than advertised". I would like to hear from RobV in regard to the real height add on the 5.5/6" d'Etnas.
said on 3/Nov/14
Hey Rob , thank you very much for this site you're doing a great job.
I'm planning to buy a pair of Don's in the future and I need to ask you a question about the lifts inside them. I'm 5'9.25 and I want to make myself appear around 5'11.5 - 6'0 so the logical step would to be to buy shoes with 2.5 inch lifts but is it going to give me 2.5 inches worth of height total or
2.5 inches plus the heel? Forgive my ignorance but I'm not familiar with this...
Thanks a lot!
[Editor Rob: if you want to get 2.5 inches you would need to buy the ones advertised like 3 inches, that can get you about 2.3ish of actual height, if you got 3.5 or 4, then you would definitely get in the 2.5-3 inch of 'actual height'.]
said on 26/Oct/14
Hi Rob. can you tell me what type of shoe are you wearing the in the last picture. I mean i can't find them on the website
[Editor Rob: sorry I don't know if it is on the site, it was a custom boot Dons sent me.]
Arthur said on 21/Oct/14
TRY dons. guido maggi are very expensive!
BenR said on 17/Oct/14
I have some air max that gives me about 3cm nearly on my height. I thought adding normal 1 inch lifts (these are solid ones not squishy) under the insole would make me an inch taller than that or at least 5cm (2cm extra). The thing is that in my airmax, in total they only give me just around 4.5cm extra height. Is this normal? If they were in converse etc I suppose they would give me a larger lift?
By the way, I bought Seca 213 staiometer and it only professes an accuracy of +-5mm...I also noticed it would be a 2-3 mm short due to innacurracies I measured on it where the bits fit together. It is portable though so I suppose it's easy enough to add a few millimeters to the measurement.
RobV said on 14/Oct/14
Well, Lebensdorf, if you've got the cash, try the GuidoMaggi and tell me what they are like :) I like the Don's pair I have got (high lift d'Etnas), but I too would like to have a shot at a pair of the GuidoMaggis when I think I can spare the cash. I think I would get the 5" Shanghai or Innsbruck style from their range. But there's loads more I would go for in the 4" and less.
But like I say, Don's are v good in that boot range, the d'Etnas, the army type ones etc. GET BOTH!
Lebensdorf said on 13/Oct/14
What do you think, guys, Guido Maggi or Don's? Which should I try?
RobV said on 9/Oct/14
@ Fog, as Editor Rob says, that totally gives you a good way of testing out making yourself taller without committing to buying elevators. That kind of happened to me for years naturally. I have been using lifts (boots are best, as you say) for 15 years, since I was late teens. In those days there were only elevators in the most crap styles and small sizes. So you had no choice. But it is still the best way of seeing how it feels.
184.3cm said on 9/Oct/14
Elevators are big business in Holland. So many guys want to be tall because its expected i think. Bulgarria shoes is a shop that i have noticed it spreading allover. I dont think they would sell the same quality as those hand made shoes from Dons as they are probably cheaply produced. For instance i have a friend who i was sure would measure round 178cm but he came over to my place for a visit with his family and in my house you take your shoes off at the door. When he came into our living room i couldnt believe it he was lucky if he hit 173cm barefoot.
said on 6/Oct/14
I'm a solid 5'11 which is a decent height, but sometimes i like to feel taller. Instead of buying elevators i bought a pair of landrover boots than give 1.6 inches over barefoot height and then added a cork shoe insert that gave 2.5cm (1 inch). I walk around outside to what a 6'05 man would and feel quite tall. I don't wear them all the time, but the inserts in the boots are quite comfy if put in properly. Would recommend for a boot only though.
[Editor Rob: it's certainly a cheaper option than a 200 bux pair of elevator shoes, I'd always recommend someone who is thinking of elevators to maybe buy a cheap pair of lifts to test them out, then move onto a well made elevator shoe with inbuilt sturdy lift.]
RobV said on 3/Oct/14
@ Anon on pain. This really should not be happening if you have inserted lifts right and are wearing the right footwear and right size for the lifts. As I asked before, how tight are the shoes on top? And how do they feel in other parts of the foot? Do the lifts feel like they make the shoes too tight? 4" of lift for me is only possible in very oversized and big boots. So what type of footwear are we talking about here? You cannot get 4" of lift in any normal type of shoe. It seems to me, without knowing this, that your problem is simply one of pain brought on by very ill fitting shoes which itself is brought on by wearing just too much lift. Think about it - shoes and boots are designed to be worn for the size you have bought. If you are trying to go big, you have to wear bigger shoes. If you are trying to stick that amount of lift in anything else, then you are probably trying to put too much in. I did this when I started using lifts (home made) and had a few problems at first.
There is only so much you can put into shoes, and even half an inch too much can go from ease to pain.
said on 30/Sep/14
I am not sure if you guys remember me, but I made a posting here regarding the pain I am experiencing wearing 4'' shoe lifts. Today my knees are killing me the pain came out of no where the past week. What can I do to ice my knees down?
[Editor Rob: I would take a break from them! And not do too much walking to let your knees recover a bit. Maybe you wore them too long and it's strained your joint?]
Lebensdorf said on 29/Sep/14
Rob Paul: mild-mannered celebrity autograph collector by day; Big Rob, man about town, by night.
RobV said on 19/Sep/14
@ Lebensdorf. Your situation is very similar to mine - tall and adding to get to very tall. Not sure if you have ever tried more than the inch or two you mention, taking you to 6'3", but I can tell you it is quite tempting to go for more at that level (and on the basis of the points you make) - if you do, try it out at night/at a club/bar type situation first.
@ Attitude, it is amazing yes, that people just do not notice. If you show a picture and say "these are elevators", then people will say "yes I can tell," even if they are not! Nothing ever needs to look like the Stallone/Downey Jnr munsters. It's really how you go about things. Big boots are big, and as I have said here before (with some shots to show what I mean), ALL boots like that can look like they have lifts, as they are chunky-heeled and big. For me they are the best and it's always great when they are fashionable or fit where/how you work. But if you try to wear them in some semi-formal situation like the Stallones do, then it potentially looks rather obvious.
Attitude said on 18/Sep/14
I agree RobV. I wore this huge ass boots in the warehouse I worked at. Most of the guys there were legit 6 feet or above. So I kinda matched that with the boot and lift. I had the same experience where people were saying I was pretty tall without realizing to factor in footwear Haha.
It's interesting how I was chosen to do certain duties over others because I work out and looked taller than some other candidates. In this case height got me noticed by the boss and had me do extra work for more cash over the other new people since I was a bit taller than them.
huh? said on 18/Sep/14
The global height is not near 5'9.5
Lebensdorf said on 16/Sep/14
RobV, You're right about looks from guys. I can tell when a man is a little envious of my height, especially when he's with his gf. But the girls don't always care that much, it's true. Although I honestly think height is the most attractive quality for most women. I see these guys who are just dogs and they have beautiful girlfriends because they're like 8 feet tall and strong looking. At a club, a guy can wear a paper bag over his face and pick up a good looking girl if he's upwards of 6'5. On the other hand, there are some short guys who own their shortness and have the confidence, and I truly respect them.
RobV said on 16/Sep/14
@ Attitude. Yes it's weird how guys just do not really seem to factor into account the difference that varying shoes/boots can make, even with no lift. And getting from 5'9.5" to just under 6'2" with the right footwear and lifts is exactly what you say - a nice harmless power trip.
I've told my story before as to how I started wearing stuff to make me seem taller, but there's an additional point that ties in with what you have said - I used to help a mate run a club where these three guys used to come in, all around 6'6" ish and well built. One of them was Pete Steele, the musician, and I noticed he wore these great big badass engineer style boots which totally gave him at least 2"+ in spite of being so tall. Both of the others wore cuban heel/cowboy boots as well. And their height just totally dominated. They were clearly not about to be wearing flat shoes to minimise their height, any of them. So at 6'2" I got just wearing big boots like that (Docs/Rangers etc), progressed (fast!) to lifts and like you I managed to get that extra 4"+ and really love it once I was their height.
Strangely, now I do my own nights, one of those 3 guys who is still occasionally on the scene came in some months ago and almost the first thing he did when he saw me was check out how tall I was and said 'F*, you're tall'. Maybe a childish little thing on my part, but it was quite a buzz having one of these 3 who I had kinda idolised in my late teens saying something like that. Silly really, but a buzz nonetheless.
Attitude said on 15/Sep/14
I'm 5'9.5" maybe just a tad over, and it's true RobV; if I wear just flat converse shoes out and about downtown, I feel like how a below average guy (a 5'8" guy) would in regular runners/trainers/boots. Even just wearing runners with a typical inch and a bit heel, it really changes the feeling. In one of my trainers, I'm just a hair under 5'11. In boots with an insole or lift, depending on the boot, I can get up to 6'0" to close to 6'2" (such as using a construction worker's boot with a full lift inside).
While I wish I was a 5'11" guy, it's not hard to pass for 5'11"-6'0" in public.
I have a few friends who are identical to my height, slightly above, and slightly below (go figure, I'm 5'9.5", the global average). When I wear converse type shoes with no heel/lift at all, and they are all wearing runners with an inch heel, boy does that make a difference. My friend who is the same height looks huge if he wears his air max shoes while I wear converse and vice versa. Like, it's really weird to look up to somebody who is normally eye level just because of a slight shoe difference. (Most of this happens in the gym where none of us are wearing boots, lifts, or higher heeled shoes like a Cuban heel; so me or him wearing trainers or flat converse shoes are typical and alternate frequently).
But I like to wear cowboys in public normally or big ass boots (maybe with a lift too ;) ). Going from 50% taller than everybody to 80 or 90% is a nice harmless power trip. Haha.
RobV said on 14/Sep/14
@ Lebensdorf With regard to the confusion about exactly how much extra height you gain, I think you also have to remember it's quite difficult to exactly measure your own height and I am sure you do not go to your doc and say "measure me with and without my elevators on", adopting a similar posture!
I myself have a pair advertised as 5" (and like you I measure the lift on the boot and yep it appears to be 5") and I DO fill a 2m door frame (I'm 6'2"), so the loss of a couple of inches in actual gain does not always seem to apply. But I have noticed that wearing the boots and filling the frame really depends upon posture. Hitting a height level barefoot seems less unrelaible or varied. I cannot really explain why. And I have another similar pair of 4" elevators and yes, like you, I really do only gain, say, two-and-a-half inches. It is slightly misleading really, I guess, but of course the additional complication is the additional height from barefoot you get just by wearing shoes, up to well over an inch, maybe 1.5". So it's like there are three concepts here. The reality is surely that they do add height, and quite a bit in certain circumstances.
It might appear funny to you that guys our height do this, but working in the business I work in, I have seen all sorts of this kind of thing. Being fairly expert in it, I have for sure seen other well known tall/tallish guys who are clearly trying to get a bit more height, through slight heels and bigger boots which might even have a little lift. And just look at very tall guys listed on here (think 6'3"/6'4" Jason Momoa for example, talking about being 6'5" 'and still growing'!! A claim, made by a guy over 30 -!- designed to allow him to claim 6'6" at some point soon if he can get away with it). They all seem to add 2" to their claimed height until the height gets to 6'6", which just appears to be a sort of ideal for guys who are already really tall.
I have said this before - guys who are most impressed by my height, 6'6"ish with my biggest boots - are almost always guys who are already in the top percentiles of height, 6'2+. The comments/looks are always favourable, and it's clear that most of them think I have some sort of an advantage. We are talking straight guys here btw. Interestingly, I am not sure that, by and large, women are as impressed and awed by such heights, and neither do gay men appear to be so taken with it (sure, it's not a minus, but it is always tall straight guys who are always 'wow', like you have the latest flash car).
Lebensdorf said on 13/Sep/14
RobV, I'm 6'1 barefoot, and I can pass for 6'3 with the elevators on. I guess it's an image enhancement of sorts, but it's not major. It's weird, when I measure the lift itself, it does appear to be four inches, but the practical height yielded is quite a bit less. I think the people making the shoes should disclose this. What a funny world it is when guys in our height range wear elevator shoes.
RobV said on 10/Sep/14
@ Lebensdorf. Although I agree with you that the lift in elevators is usually less than advertised, 2.5" in your case it is still quite substantial. From memory, a 'real lift' from, say 5'9'5" to 6' takes you from being taller than about half the population to taller than 80%, depending of course where you are based.
At that level, some guys who just add an inch are amazed at first how much taller they feel. Which, given the height distribution stats, is logical because even at that low level of lift you become taller than a large % of other guys if you are average height. It really depends upon what you define as 'dramatic'. I would say going from 5'8.25" to a tad over 6' in the big boots is dramatic. I am 6'2" and wear similar ones and get to just and just 2m (a bit under 6'6").
said on 9/Sep/14
Heh, legit 6'0" Rob. Do you think RDJ wears shoes similar to the ones demonstrated in that bottom pic? It actually looks quite natural until you see the boots.
[Editor Rob: his don't look quite as thick but I believe RDJ can get near 3 inches of actual height in some of the shoes he wears, and about 2.5 inches in some of the sneaker elevators he wears.]
said on 9/Sep/14
I have a pair of elevator shoes. They are supposed to have an increase of 4 inches, but the lift amounts only to 2.5 inches (above my height barefoot). If we assume that the average heel is 1 inch, these shoes make me only 1.5 inches taller than I would be normally. Elevator shoes never really make you that much taller. A short guy might end up looking respectably average (by society's standards), an average guy will look tallish, but not really tall, and a tall guy will just look like a taller guy. Honestly, the difference will never be dramatic.
Rob, what is the advertised lift in your Big Rob boots? They seem to make you a solid 6 feet.
[Editor Rob: they can put me at 6ft 1/8th when I measured about 5ft 8.25, just under 4 inches, I think they are advertised at 5 inches or 5.5 maybe.]
RobV said on 4/Sep/14
@ AlyD You could never in a 100 years tell these are elevators from the photographs. How much of an elevator is in these?
said on 4/Sep/14
A picture of a pair of Don's shoes being worn Click Here
RobV said on 2/Sep/14
Just a comment on a post elsewhere, where a guy says he finds it really uncomfortable to wear elevators or lifts for more than a certain amount of time (not very long!). If this is the case, then you really are doing something wrong. I wear both/either pretty much every waking hour and I have absolutely no discomfort at all, can walk easily and properly.
But you DO have to make sure that what you are doing with elevators fits the feet and (with lifts) properly fits the footwear. Lifts that are too small (I mean not wide enough, allowing space to either side) skew your posture and comfort (you tend to shift to one side or another and walk oddly), lifts that are too BIG for the particular footwear, are painful and uncomfortable. They create pressure points on top, rubbing and all the issues you get with tight footwear. Remember that when you are a size 10 and buy a size 10, it is designed to fit your foot, not to allow for something else as well like a wedge of extra other than maybe a thin insole.
I have discovered the answer to this is to buy most footwear a size or two larger than my normal size, specially if I am using lifts.
Elevators should not be uncomfortable at all as long as you get the right size, and my own view on these is that you should go for quality and get a size larger than you normally buy as well.
It is trial and error, but at the end of the day quite easy. But each different pair of shoes or boots will respond differently to lifts so it's a case of having a range of lifts and sometimes customising them yourself.
delvin said on 21/Aug/14
do elevators shoe hurt for flat feet people
said on 20/Aug/14
@Finlander The great thing about the d'Etna, which I have, is that it is in a style that is generally fashionable with stuff like skinny jeans. Your shape is similar to mine, though I may now be a bit more built, but I am a bit taller 6'2" and these work well, and really no need for a leather jacket (though, yep that looks good).
Tastes vary, but based on what you told me, just look at these.
Big boots, skinnies, not a leather jacket in sight. I have the highest lift ones and they are the only boots with serious lifts/ elevators I can comfortably wear exposed with skinnies tucked in/rolled over to show the boot, without fear that someone might realise. Reason for this is that ALL big boots look chunky in the heel area anyway. Look at the Justin Theroux shot and you'll see what I mean. All these could so easily be elevators and look similar in effect to even my highest lift d'Etnas. Sometimes fashion or trends work in your favour for adding height, and this one for big boots (all types not just Docs) is very good.
The Gran Sasso might work the same (I've looked at it and it seems good as well). Get them a size bigger than you are, just in case you wanna experiment with a half inch/inch more lift. Even if you don't, somehow it is still better to get the larger size. There are also some really cool ones on the guidomaggi.com site but they are incredibly expensive. I only recently saw these and I would say they are as a collection the elevators with the best eye to fashion on the market. I will def buy some at some point (gulp). But these particular ones of Dons are good as well.
I do suggest you get shiny and not matt, and then wear them in a bit. Let me know how you get on. By all means get in touch with me robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk and I will give you more advice if you want. Or on here of course.
RobV said on 19/Aug/14
Custom elevators - does anyone know where to get really good and fashionable custom elevators made? Like a younger designer who really understands the concept and can make for that market? I have found, until relatively recently, that most firms that do custom boots and shoes generally are rather old fashioned, and certainly not for a younger market in styling.
Levi said on 14/Aug/14
Just ordered a pair of dons.
I'm around 178cm. A little less in the evening and a little more in the morning. 177cm is average where I live, but I just want a little boost to appear a little bigger.
That and having some high quality shoes being made the way you want them is always a good thing. Especially with the reasonable prices at dons. The height increase doesn't hurt either
Finlander said on 14/Aug/14
@RobV. I have a problem, It's kinda simple, I have no idea which one to order d'Etna or Gran Sasso boots (w 3.1"/8cm lifts). Also the second part of my troubles. How can I make those boots look good? I'm 18, 6ft, 82kg(200lbs is 90kg) and kinda weird mixture build guy. I mean I have long legs and wide shoulders, weird right? I wear a lot of slim fit jeans with my high top nikes and buttoned shirts. In Autumn I also wear black or brown leather jackets(slim fit also). I think with my leather jacket I have no problems wearing boots. But I don't really know how to make those boots look good with like buttoned shirts or something else. The easy solution is to wear my lift filled nikes but I want to wear my boots too. As you are a guy who knows fashion, I was kinda hoping that you would have tips how to make those boots look good without me wearing leather jackets all the time.
RobV said on 11/Aug/14
@ Liking Lifts. For myself I always buy, if I can, a size-and-a-half-up, but this is partly because I like to wear stuff that I can add a little further lifts to if poss. But if you are wearing elevators, the key is comfort and I now never feel any problem at all with them - I used to have more issues with lifts than with elevators, as with lifts you are adding something to footwear which is not expecting both a foot and an extra wedge! It took me a while to get the real hang of them, and even now I am amazed at how different lifts work in different boots/shoes, and it really IS trial and error to get it both to the max and feeling comfortable.
The plus with lifts of course is that you can have almost any type of shoe, specially if you are younger and into fashion. Elevators are getting better, way better than 10 years ago, but still have to catch up quite a lot. I really will try those very trendy looking ones that I posted about but they are just so expensive.
I suspect you have worn the 5.5" ones too often to exchange them for the next size up!
LikingLifts said on 7/Aug/14
My feet are getting more used to the 5.5" lifts but it seems I just need to buy a larger size like you mentioned. It just feels like they're squishing my feet horribly if I wear them more than a couple hours. I'll keep looking around for the next size up or maybe even 1.5 size up
said on 25/Jul/14
Has anyone ever bought Guido Maggi elevators? I've only just picked up on them. They look incredible but also incredibly expensive (like 500 euros+ which is 400 sterling/700 US dollars). The interesting point in their promotion is that, a bit like my Don's d'Etnas, they are current and fashionable - and the styling appears to break that usual 'elevator rules' that you should never expose the heel for fear of detection.
They demonstrate something I have said before - that when big boots are fashionable (which they are a lot of the time and in lots of ways), then practically ALL big boots look like that could (just could) be elevators because of their chunky styling and heavy duty heels etc. It therefore means you can wear them with a bit more confidence of non detection. If they all look chunky then your elevators are 'no different' to others in similar styles (only you know they are).
Of course, you look at the clips and know that you are looking at elevators because it is flagged up for you. The danger is that you then think you can 'tell'. But a lot of these look great. Check them out on youtube. I would love to know if anyone has bought anything from these guys and how it looks, specially in the boots and at the fashion end.
[Editor Rob: they are even more expensive than Dons, but then high fashion shoes from some Italian brands are in that range aswell.]
RobV said on 23/Jul/14
@likinglifts I think whether you go for lifts or elevators or a combination, you are always best getting stuff in a size or two larger to allow you to experiment and add. Whatever you do, the boots will fit fine if you make allowance. They will certainly not end up being too big. Otherwise, you will curse. I did that recently when I saw a fab pair of (non elevator) boots, and made the mistake of assuming that that style in a particular size would allow me to add 3" of lift. It was similar to another pair but better, same brand though. The upper was just tighter and therefore I could only get less than 2" in. They didn't have a size larger than that anyway, but had they had a pair, I would for sure have got more in.
I will post once I have received my new 5.5"/6" d'Etnas. They will give me about 4" I think.
RobV said on 22/Jul/14
Something just posted on 'General Height' might be of interest here. Someone understandably asked how I can get from 6'2" even to 6'5" just using lifts. Well you can but it is very difficult. I tend to use the words lifts and elevators rather interchangeably and I often say 'using lifts/elevators'. By and large for achieving that kind of height lift, I use elevators AND lifts. Currently I wear my 5" d'Etnas (by Dons) a lot, in a size or so larger than my own with added 1" lifts. And it takes me to probably 6'6" ish (with allowance for the boot and angle). I've actually now ordered the ones of his still not advertised but which I discovered on a youtube video (the extra inch to 5.5"/6", they look cool in the video and I prefer the sole, much more trendy).
Lifts alone are way more tricky. It can be done - but almost solely with big boots like Docs and Rangers in sizes much bigger than your own size (I have several and manage to get the 3" out of them OK - they were the first ones I ever did, when I was in my late teens 15 years ago and I very accurately measured my height in them as having got the extra 3" I wanted). But no way in your kind of day to day office type shoes, and even in the boots brands I mention, there are some styles you can achieve it in, some you cannot.
Likinglifts said on 20/Jul/14
I think youre right about getting a size or two bigger with higher lifts. My 2" inserts that give me an actual 1.5" height increase fit nicely inside my normal size work boots. The 5.5" lift boots I bought which give me 3.5" of actual lift over wearing my work boots without lifts are very snug on my feet since I ordered them in my normal size. I assumed since they were made with the lifts inside they would take that sort of stuff into account, but I assumed wrong. It seems the stated height increase for any shoe is versus your barefoot height.
Ive wanted to order a pair of dons for year. I think the time to order them is coming up quickly. Especially now that they're offering styles of boots that basically never go out of fashion and in 6" lift.
RobV said on 18/Jul/14
@ Finlander Yes it is funny that 2" taller seems to be quite a common aspiration. Interestingly, when one of the posters on here did a survey on "how tall ru, how tall would u like to be", that was what from memory seemed to come out more than anything. Even guys around my height and slightly taller would like to be 2" taller. That may be almost a sort of 'realistic' aspiration in a way - you can just about get 2" more by careful use of footwear etc and it is just and just easily attainable through that, but it is not a kind of situation where you feel like an almost different person.
But trust me once you are around that height you will probably want an extra inch, because if you are a tad under 6' now, you will already be 6'1" in boots. Go for what you feel comfortable with, but bearing in mind the loss of extra lift you do get by angle etc, my instinct is you'd be better with the 3.1". It's a small difference I know to the 2.75" but an elevator of 3.1" on your 'almost 6 foot' will 100% certainly keep you under 6'3" and within the height parameters you describe. And I bet you will want to go a bit higher in future.
Finlander said on 17/Jul/14
Thanks 'bout the info. I'm getting more and more certain about buying the gran sassos(2.75" or 3.1").
About my height, I was measured recently and I was 182.5cm(a fraction below 6') barefeet. And about how tall I want to appear. I want to be like 6'3 or a notch more in boots so people would assume that I was a legit 6'2" guy. Kinda funny isn't it, I mean like I want to be 6'2" and you're 6'2" and want to be more than 6'4". Also I know like a ton of guys who would like to be 6'.
RobV said on 17/Jul/14
@ Finlander, on Don's sizes. I have just checked and I thought he did in fact do bigger sizes. It slightly confusingly says you can get a maximum EU 46 in the gran Sasso for example (max size) but also says that 13.5 is the max UK size available (now that is 48.5 in Europe). I have had them made to the bigger UK size through Dons, and am expecting in the mail soon a pair of 13.5 UK size d'Etnas in the highest lift. Good luck, and do think about the 3.1" or even the 4" Gran Sasso. Both will keep you under 6'3" in real terms imho (ie as a 6'3" guy in boots)!
RobV said on 17/Jul/14
@ Liking Lifts. I am really surprised you have had so much problem with the higher lifts, but it may just be that the boots/shoes are not of the right kinda quality (and, possibly, shoes size) you need at that height. My 4" d'Etnas + 1" lift inserted are the most comfortable boots I own, which is why I have gone for the 5.5"/6" version that he has just developed (but not put on his site yet, for some reason).
You also mentioned that you put lifts in at first and that people asked what was wrong, and you thought you might look like you were limping. I have to say that this can happen if you do not get the balance right, or if you are trying to put too much in too small a space (sometimes it is deceptive when you first add the lift - 'hurray I can get all that in"). I cured this completely by always buying boots and shoes a size (or 2) bigger) when adding lifts. The problem is that there is always a limit as to what you can add by way of lifts. So you have to get it exactly right - comfort and max height. The temptation to add more than comfort allows appears to be greater when the shoes are your normal size. When the shoes are bigger, you get a little more in and are happy with the result so you tend to stick at that. I had superb motorbike boots in my late teens but could never get the lifts right - the boots ended up too tight or not enough lift and I felt a bit like you do. And then I bought another pair two sizes bigger and never looked back.
said on 16/Jul/14
Thanks, I'm probably gonna go with the gran sasso(2,75") boots. About lifts, I have a pair of homemade lifts(1"-1,50" range) in my Nike airforce ones. They give me just enough that I look like a legit 6'1" guy but, they are somewhat uncomfortable and took time to get used to. Then why the boots, you may ask? Well I just want a really good pair of boots(and to look like 6'1"-6'2") and also I'm aiming for the greater comfortably.
Oh... and Rob? Any idea why you can't order(from DON's) larger shoes than EU size 46. I am just wondering cause in Finland sizes like 47 to 49 are big but not that rare(I mean like if you are buying new sneakers you would find size 48 shoe pretty easily). And my size is 44, so no problem with that just wondering. :)
[Editor Rob: maybe Don's haven't got the shoe lasts for such big sizes, so you would need to try to contact them and see if they make bigger sizes to a special order?]
RobV said on 16/Jul/14
@ Finlander. I have ordered from Dons and they were delivered no problem to the UK. I am not exactly sure where they are based but it's not the Uk so mail seems to get through no problem.
You are similar to me in some ways - you are tall (6') and want to be taller but no more than 6'3". I am 6'2" and want to be taller, but max 6'6" (so just up a notch!). You are concerned that you don't want to appear too tall if you buy the Gran Sasso boots in 2.75" elevator. You most certainly will not and might wish you had at least gone for the next size up, the 3.1". The reason? You have to bear in mind one thing. If you wear any boots at all already, say like these ones or like Timberlands, but with no lift, you will already be adding an inch or maybe even a tiny bit more. So as Editor Rob often points out, an elevator that says 2.75" will NOT give 2.75" on TOP of what you normally are in boots. PLus there is a kind of slight lessening in what you gain from the 2.75" because of the angle of the foot etc. You will certainly not exceed your desired height with the 2.75" elevator - and never mind the 3.1", you might even wish you had gone for the 4"! It depends upon whether you are saying "I am 6' barefoot, 6'1 to 6'1.5 in my boots, and only want an extra inch and a half in boots to get to 6'3". Or whether you want to be like a 6'3" guy in boots, which inevitably takes you a tad taller.
And 2.75" in these boots is no way too tall. I like the look of those ones actually. I have just ordered a 2nd pair of Don's d'Etnas in his new 5.5"/6" elevator. And although I am 6'2" they will probably only just get me to the 6'6" mark because of the limitations I have mentioned.
I have had a lot of experience with elevators and lifts and I realise that even an extra half inch makes you yourself feel way taller than you are. It takes quite a lot of elevator or lift in the right kind of boot to actually genuinely get an additional 2"+ extra height on top of the height you are in your usual footwear. Feel free to take advantage of my experience and ask any questions.
LikingLifts said on 16/Jul/14
@ RobV, thanks for the info, let me know how you like the boots when you get em. In your shoes I would feel the same, it seems no matter how much taller I can make myself I would still rather be even taller. With a 6" lift that would make me over 6'2" at any point of the day, & I would still likely be shorter than a few people during the day. Disappointing being short to start with :/
My very first lift was the insert into my normal work boots. 2". They were actually quite awkward at first, but the boots I put them in already made me 1.5" taller, so it was adding 2" on top of that. For about a month people kept asking me "what's wrong" and they would say it looked as if I was limping.
With that said I would say anything under 3" is a good starter lift size. I'm so used to my boots with inserts that I can run/train in them as if they were regular shoes. My 5.5" lift boots are another story. I wore them all day today at work. They destroyed my feet. I took them off for my breaks and lunch, my feet still hurt 4 hours later without any shoe on my feet.
It is awesome to be viewed as "tall" but I'm not sure it's worth this much pain. I have heard many good things about Dons shoes and that they're more comfortable than run of the mill elevator shoes, so they might be even easier to adapt to, but I have no experience with Dons yet.
Finlander said on 14/Jul/14
Hi, I'm thinking of buying the Gran Sasso boots(w. 2.75 increase probably) from Don's and I was thinking, has anyone from like really far(I'm from Finland, myself) ordered shoes from Don's?
Also I'm about 182cm-183cm(6ft) and would like to look more than 185.5cm(6'1") but I don't want to look over 191cm(6'3"). So if you have experience about this, could you tell me how it all played out. Oh... And I'm a first time elevator shoe buyer, so please tell me if 2.75 is too much to begin with.
RobV said on 14/Jul/14
@ LikingLifts. Don's d'Etna 5.5"/6" boots ordered, apparently completed and on their way to me. I can't wait to get hold of them and will let you know how they stack up :) For the record I currently have a pair of the d'Etnas with the 4" elevator and an additional 1 inch of lift and they are incredibly comfortable. I saw the 5.5"/6" ones by chance in the video (still not on the Don's site yet - they really should put them on there) - I went for these higher ones because the existing ones look good, because I wanted them higher and because the sole that has to be used on the 5.5"/6" is in fact much more fashionable. In these new higher ones I have gone for the glossy version. If you are at all bothered by detection, shiny/glossy is better - you can start to worry (slightly unnecessarily imho) that the matt ones look like orthopaedic boots! Trust me they don't.
And in fact, I wear these matt ones fully exposed with skinny jeans, which some might think breaks all the rules - these 'rules' are that with elevators and lifts, specially above a certain height, you should usually wear as much cover as poss through bootcut jeans to disguise the possibility that the lift is visible at the heel (that clumpy look). And I usually do that with other footwear I have lifts or elevators in, specially during the day. But not with these, and I have 100% confidence in them. If you look at most big boots (currently trendy again) like Docs and rangers etc, they actually ALL look like they might have elevators in them!
And yes mate, you really get used to them - I am already 6'2" tall and I love being around 6'5"/6'6" by using good lifts and elevators. And it is just so weird that people never really notice that you are actually taller - don't forget, of course, that you can't really just measure from barefoot. People see you mostly in shoes. Most shoes with nothing in at all give you an inch or so already, so really for added height purposes you have to take your normal shoes/boots and then see where you get from them. On that basis, I expect my 5.5"/6" to give me about 4.5" advantage, maybe a bit more if lucky, on top of my usual height in average boots. Bloody good. Good luck and if ever you need any advice or tips I'm robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk. I've really made elevators and lifts work for me using logic and sense, and I know loadsa guys who would like to try but don't quite get into it because they fear detection etc.
LikingLifts said on 13/Jul/14
First I must say thanks for this article and keeping up on new developments. It have me the courage to try lifts for the first time, and now I've been wearing lifts for years!
Anyone tried out the 6" version of Dons new boots? I've been thinking about it.
I've worn inserts in my boots for a few years now. I'm 5'8.25 to 5'8.5 depending on what part of the day I measure. The inserts claim 1.5-2" taller depending if you use the booster or not. I use them inside of typical store bought work boots like caterpillar, survivors etc. which give me about 1.5" taller than barefoot height by themself. this combo makes me 5'11.25-5"11.5" again depending on what point in the day I measure. Not bad for only $11.99! They were quite awkward at first, but now I don't notice them at all, & can even run in them just fine.
Most recently I bought a set of 5.5" elevator shoes that are in the $150 price range. These make me a full 5" taller than my barefoot height @ over 6'1"! These shoes apply more pressure onto your feet and are not very comfortable to wear at first. After a few days of wearing them they are reasonably comfortable and I could easily wear them all day. Anytime I wear them around people that know me I get asked "have you lost weight?" I weigh about 165lbs so I'm not exactly overweight to begin with.
From my experience with elevators(which is only what you see above) they make me .5" less than advertised taller. When I measure the inserts inside of my boots it measures right at 3.5" from the ground to the top of the insert, & they make me 3" taller. Same with the new boots. They measure 5.5" from the ground to the top of the lift, & make me 5" taller. This does require extremely good posture to attain these gains, but once you're used to it it feels normal.
RobV said on 21/Jun/14
I just made a point elsewhere that is worth making here on this section related to elevators. It's about fitting your own style to what you wear and how fashion trends and how you dress can be used to your advantage (or play against you).
I have actually managed to wear my Don's 5" d'Etnas bought last year undetectable with skinny jeans tucked in, which I know I know kinda goes against what indeed I have always believed myself about the need to wear such heights with bootcut jeans covering much of the boot.
A lot is about looking at what current styles/trends are and what suits your image - just look at sites like TopMan and their models are often wearing skinnies with big Doc-type boots, tucked in or rolled up exposing the boot. If someone said to you "they are elevators the guys are wearing", you would say "Oh yes, I can tell". But they are not. All big chunky boots like that can look like they are built up (even when I didn't wear elevators in them years ago, my mum called them my Herman Munster boots). So it's also about tailoring the lift to your own style - sometimes you are lucky and a style which suits big elevators comes in. Sometimes you are not. The more off centre to your own image you are, the more it can look like Vin Diesel, Robert Downey Jr et al and their big cheap boots worn with suits at red carpet events - yuk and obvious. It then seems at the very least that you are wearing something that does not really suit or is not fashionable in order to give you more height.
said on 19/Jun/14
@ Editor Rob on the Don's boots. I meant the new 5.5"/6" ones that he has done on a youtube video, not the 5" ones you have. He doesn't have them yet on his site, but he posted a video of them them a few months ago, basically saying 'at last, after many requests'. I can post a link if you want. I happened across it by total chance.
If these ones are an additional half inch to inch on top of the 5" version you have, then that would take the gain to 4.5" to 5" in comparison with the average sneaker/shoe. I actually prefer the look of the sole on these new ones, more fashionably chunky, which possibly accounts for a little of the additional height!
[Editor Rob: the 5.5 probably will give 4.3 inches, it might change a little if you have a longer foot, but still getting nearly 4.5 inches is a remarkable amount as you can then genuinely look 3.5 inches taller than what you used to look if you wore 1 inch shoes]
said on 17/Jun/14
Just to let you know I have ordered the new-ish highest elevators from Don's (the 5.5"/6" d'Etnas on the facebook video). I like the style as they are quite fashionable to wear with current jeans styles. I will let you know - they will probably give me up to 4.5"/5" which is a tad more than I tend to go for and will take me to 2m (over 6'6").
[Editor Rob: the exact measurement from the BIG ROB
versions that Dons sent me (it is the 5-incher model) is just in the 3.8 inch zone, so you are basically gaining 3 inches in height on average, compared to the typical sneaker or basic shoe.]
said on 2/Jun/14
Rob, do you think shoe lifts could possibly cause your spine to decompress more than usual? I wear lifts because I want to hit the 5'10 mark. I'm 5'8.5 for my day low, and wear one inch shoe lifts. I noticed that I measure at least an quarter of an inch taller when I don't wear them. So technically my low would be 5'8.75.
[Editor Rob: maybe the lifts mean your back is under more pressure so you are reaching your low faster than not wearing lifts?]
said on 19/May/14
Rob these are 2.4 inches? how much taller are u in them than jenny? How high are her shoes in the pic?
[Editor Rob: those are the elevators I measured on the dons youtube video, about 2.3 inch range, her sneakers are like 0.4 inches, there was around 2 inches really in the photo...although in photos sometimes 2 inches can look anywhere from 1 inch up to 3 inches!
RobV said on 14/May/14
@ Heylo on wearing a bit of a lift to get you to 5'11". You'll find that adding an inch is very easy and you will for sure notice the height increase but it will not cause you any concern at all and will be undetectable really. The thing is, though, that once you have added an inch, you will probably want to add another a few months/weeks down the line to get yourself to 6'! That's the funny thing about wearing lifts/elevators - the extra height is very welcome and you do kinda end up going higher.
RobV said on 12/May/14
@ Saint 6-1 As I am another Rob, not the Editor!, who bought a pair of the Don's 5" d'etna elevators last year, you might poss have been asking me! And yes I wear those all the time. Apart from anything else, they are in a style which is quite trendy right now with straight/skinnies and they are very comfortable. Of all the stuff I wear - lifts/elevators/combo - they are actually the easiest to wear for daily activities and in spite of being big workboot style, they do not look like elevators, just big boots. I just hope they stay fashionable. As I'm 6'2", they're the only footwear I have that easily takes me to 6'6".
But with this type of boot you MUST keep them well polished, even if only at the heel, or at some point a kind of ridge could appear where the elevator section meets the rest of the upper.
I am tempted to try his military style ones as well in a similar height, and on reflection would have preferred to order the shiny black leather rather than the matt style finish for the d'etna. But i can wear them day and night for ages and no probs.
said on 12/May/14
You say you are 5'8 but in a video where you show some Don boots you are 174.3cm?
[Editor Rob: that would be earlier in the day, but the stadiometer adds 1/8th inch, I drop to 5ft 8.25 usually on stadiometer so I am 5ft 8 1/8th.]
Heylo said on 12/May/14
Hey Rob. I'm 5'10 and live in Sweden. As you may know swedes are tall and the average are at 181.5.. However, I've been thinking about buying some 1inch insoles to put in some of my shoes but I feel awkward at the same time. When did you start to use lifts? Seem like 2 inches and above is usual in here to use but I think that's too much, i would feel a bit pathetic with it. Which is the most usual kind of lift that you are using?
And 1 inch for me would make a pretty big difference since i get over the 5'11 mark.
said on 11/May/14
Hey Rob, do you ever wear your Dons during daily activities?
[Editor Rob: personally I don't wear elevators or lifts at all apart from anything to do with the site or a height test.]
John said on 3/May/14
Actually the pain went away
RobV said on 2/May/14
@ John on elevators poss causing pain in knee. Funny how it comes back to you. When I started using lifts, no way would I buy elevators. They were all in small sizes, off the peg ones were crap, handmade were old fashioned (happily it has now changed). And I wanted to use my own trendy styles of footwear in my late teens and early 20s anyway. And I started using kinda home made/put together lifts to get as high as I could. I'm tall already, 6'2" but wanted to be around 6'5"/6'6". And I noticed that when I went really high, the balance could easily go (not crazy but just a tiny bit). And that was enough to give me a bit aggro too. The lifts you show in your shot are quite a few stacked on each other and up to a point that works but it is not really quite like a woman wearing heels and I suspect that you may have the problem that I had - that there is a slight imbalance from one foot to another, even if you think that what you have there is exactly the same. Also the pressure on the top of your foot if it presses into the upper causes mild ache in some parts.
A few tips - Measure the lift stack from both boots (is it exactly the same?). Put pressure on both of them (does one compress more than the other even slightly?). Are these the only boots you go so high in? They look fine and are the sort of boots that I would wear in some situations but I also wonder how you get so high in them without real pressure on the top of the foot. Get some more lifts and do some replacements. Don't chuck old ones away, keep them, but things do wear: maybe try for a few weeks with all new ones and knock an inch out if necessary. Just try different things for comfort. And make sure you wear a good variety of footwear - it really doesn't matter if some are a little lower that the 4". Heights vary anyway with boots etc. Hope this helps. Have been doing it v successfully for 15 years now!
said on 28/Apr/14
@RobV Yes I wear the 4'' lifts in my boots. Here is the picture of them Click Here
I've been expeirencing knee and ankle pain only on the right leg for some reason my left leg is fine.
RobV said on 26/Apr/14
@John you say you have been wearing 11cm lifts for 3 years. That's well over 4", and as a long term lift wearer myself, I would say that is quite a lot for lifts (as opposed to elevators where you can get some that are fine for the feet at tat height and more). You don't mention whether you have pain in one or more knees. This is important because at that height with lifts, you really really have to make sure that they fit the boots/shoes. Lifts at that height can become unbalanced by wear etc. And getting that sort of lift into even most boots is not tat easy unless you are buying sizes a good bit bigger than your feet. I have had so much experience at this that what you say intrigues me.
A lot of potential problems come from trying to fit too much into a space which is just not there, and you then get pressure on different parts of your foot. I would be interested to actually know how you are fitting 4"+ into your boots/shoes and what sort of footwear you are doing this with.
BOBO said on 26/Apr/14
I purchased a pair of dress boots from Don's Footwear (aka Donnelly) and received them as promised in a few weeks. The shoes are of very high quality leather and the styles are both conservative and contemporary. These are by far the best dress shoes I have purchased online. Allen who makes the custom shoes was very responsive to my emails and a real pleasure to work with. I emailed Allen to order another pair and asked if he can make them with a few changes in the style and he yes of course. This is the type of high quality service you get for very affordable custom dress and casual shoes. Also, the boots are the most comfortable I've ever had. I will always purchase my dress and casual shoes from Don's Footwear. Thanks Alen for a great job and great custom service.
said on 25/Apr/14
hello Rob i have been wearing 11'cm lifts in my boots for 3 years, I've been lately experiencing knee pain at the end of the day. What does this sign mean?
[Editor Rob: maybe too much stress on knee joints...wise to take a break now and then]
RobV said on 17/Apr/14
@ dan on which firm celebs use for elevators. I wonder if anyone has noticed something. Some of the celebs who are commented on most for possible elevator use (Robert Downey Jnr, Stallone, Diesel) wear truly truly terrible boots. Great big clumpy things with outfits for which they are not suited - ie with suits at red carpet events etc. Others though clearly have it sussed and I suspect that most aim to add about 2 inches just to gain that vital bit of extra (like Bradley Cooper, Brad Pitt etc who I think go for more made to measure) - these ones you just don't quite know whether they do lift, but kinda suspect it.
Truth is, as an elevator wearer myself, I know that there is a kind of limit for different situations, and you have to get the style of the shoe/boot right with what you wear, specially in a full-on red carpet situation. You rarely see what celebs are wearing on their feet anyway unless they are at showpiece events/awards and are shot full length, and you can never tell from movies because of the way things are filmed.
Most stars really hate being photographed full length with others and in the club nights that I run, on the odd occasion we have someone well known come in, it is always interesting that they really do not want to be photographed with guys who are taller and are very very tricky about anything like that. If you don't aim to prevent it, then they will never come again and you will find that you don't get others come either.
said on 17/Apr/14
Hey rob i have a question. what company do celebrities actually use? yes dons shoes are expensive but they are worth it. im just curious to know what company do celebrities or people with more money use?
[Editor Rob: they might get a custom shoemaker to create special shoes, but I'm sure a few might have used Don's, not that I am privy to any sort of info. I would be surprised if some celebs hadn't bought them!]
RobV said on 16/Apr/14
@ John and using 11cm (4") shoelifts. Adding my thoughts as a lift/elevator wearing of almost 15 years. Firstly, as Rob says, lifts of that height have to be able to fit the boot in question and there are not many styles that easily fit 4 inches. I would ALWAYS have preferred lifts to elevators simply because the idea of adding 3-4inches in any style of shoe of my choice is preferable to making do with what is, after all, a limited range of elevators (at least they are way way better than when I started). But I learned pretty quickly that there were not many styles I could easily add even 3" to.
One problem I had was that the top of my foot would press too tight into the upper of the shoe. Get them and try them in any boot and you'll see what I mean. But the funny thing is this doesn't apply all the time - I've bought boots which I likes but thought would be a problem (and they were fine) and the other way round - bought ones that I thought would easily fit and it was 'wow no way'. A thought - one thing you can do is buy your footwear a size or so larger and you will be able to fit more in there. But if you are not used to wearing lifts then it really is trial and error. Don't rush things. When you are really trying something out totally new it is often best to do it at night or in situations you can control - there is sometimes an incredibly fine line as to what is great (and looks it and feels it) and what is a fail. I can fit 3" lifts into one pair of big boots that I love, walk all night and day in them, but no way on earth even a cm more.
said on 14/Apr/14
Hey Rob what do you think of these? Click Here
I was thinking of buying the 11cm shoelifts would those be hard to walk in? I would be wearing them in my boots I am 5'2 so If i were to wear them i would 5'7 or so
[Editor Rob: they are ok as a cheaper option to buying elevator shoes. It would be a good way to test whether you can walk ok in them. The 5-layer looks quite thick, you are going to need a boot really to fit them in, and probably a boot that is a size bigger than normal, as it is going to push your foot quite high.
I think you'd be best starting with smaller lift and building it up. Get used to 2-layers for a while and then try 3 or 4. It might turn out to be too awkward starting with a big lift.]
said on 13/Apr/14
hi, the shoes you were wearing here, were they these?
which height increase are yours? there's 2.5, 2.75, 3.1 and 4
[Editor Rob: the ones I got were the first incarnation I believe, they give near 2.3 (advertised I think as 2.75). It is a nice shoe, of course you might need trousers/jeans that are an inch or so longer so they cover the shoe and it doesn't look like half-masts.]
RobV said on 13/Apr/14
@ John - Rob is quite right about gradually getting used to higher elevators, and even with the 5"+ elevators you will get about 4" (still v impressive). That is what I did when I started. It kinda just happened incrementally. You have to make sure that you, er, don't run before you can walk so to speak and get comfortable with what you are doing. I bought a pair of the highest Don's recently but he has put on his facebook page some slightly even higher ones which I think could actually give you 5". Look at what I said on 29th March about these. They are very convincing, and just look like current trend chunky Doc/Gettagrip styles which are back in to some degree. But most elevator styles max out really at about 3" before looking a bit weird. If you want more inches occasionally, then the 5"+ ones are great to wear from time to time. If you want the extra extra height all the time in other shoes, you can buy those lower lift elevators in a size or so bigger and add a bit more height with lifts. Every half inch counts but learn when/how not to push it! It really also depends upon what you are wearing with them. Trainers are cool for adding inches easily - just buy way larger and add lifts.
said on 13/Apr/14
hi rob, i just bought 2.75 inch don's elevator shoes because i was disappointed with the calden shoes i purchased (2.6 inches - about $80 for the shoes). can i expect more height from the don's pair than the calden pair?
[Editor Rob: the 2.75 might give you a bit less than actual 2.75, like 2.3-2.4]
said on 12/Apr/14
Alright Thanks Rob. I've been using shoe lifts for quite awhile, I feel like I want to upgrade to more inches I heard about elevator shoes and how they can give you 5'' of height. But what I wanted to ask some questions before i buy them.
Are they hard to walk in?
Do they hurt your feet if you wear them to long?
[Editor Rob: they are shoes which you should gradually wear so that you get used to them. You try wearing them 3-4 hours the first few times and they'll probably hurt your shins/feet a bit, but if you build up slowly and wear them shorter times then it might be easier.
realistically you get between 2-3 inches out of most of the elevator shoes, getting 4 inches requires a very big boot and a lot more practice to walk about in than the 2-2.5 inch styles.]
RobV said on 5/Apr/14
...and John if you want to add a bit of extra lift, buy them a size or so larger and use the gel lifts. I have done that in some Timberlands in the past.
said on 4/Apr/14
Hello Rob I was going to ask you I am planning on buying some Timberlands How much inches do they add exactly?
[Editor Rob: some give about 1.3-1.4 range, there is one model which gives 1.6 (tackhead) which is a little thicker than the standard timberland style of boot]
RobV said on 29/Mar/14
@ A.K. You say you are planning to buy some Don's. I have bought one pair so far and they are very good. Expensive but worthwhile imho. As I am more used to wearing elevators all the time, I went for the highest (the 5 inch d'Etnas) and they look cool. They give me about 4 inches (I am 6'2" already, yeah yeah I know, seems mad!). Those also happen to be in a style which is quite fashionable right now. A word of suggestion if you ever go for high-lift black boot elevators. Buy the shinier finish ones, not the matt ones, because the matt finish is often used on surgical boots! The matt ones are fine but it is just my observation for those who want to be totally sure that nothing is detectable. My ones are completely undetectable and v v comfortable.
said on 23/Mar/14
rob, i am planning to buy one of these Don elevator shoes, i just wanted to ask if they are comfortable enough to wear to Office everyday ? I would be buying the ones with a 2.5' heel.
[Editor Rob: I think that's about the limit because it will take getting used to, if you bought them I'd test them for longer periods in the house or just out and about, it is a big change to suddenly have your ankles higher up.]
RobV said on 16/Mar/14
@ french guy. I have worn elevators for 15 years, since I was late teens and have never had any issue at all other than when I have wanted to push things too far in a particular style - in one pair of non-elevator boots I tried to put too much in by way of shoelift and so my feet were sore. But elevators themselves are fine, as are lifts if there is enough room. I weigh 220lb and am 6'2" without elevators so if anyone would suffer knee problems wearing elevators/lifts 24/7 it would be someone like me, and I have no issues there at all.
french guy( 184-182 cm)
said on 11/Mar/14
rob do they hurt? I read a lot that they are painful, even if it mainly depends on the quality of the shoes.I also read that they should not be worn for more than 3 hours because it could damage your knees and make you shorter?
[Editor Rob: look at the percentage of women who wear heels much more of an angle than elevator shoes. If you wear very high elevators then it may increase chance of problems with shins, ankles, knees...lower elevator not so much.]
RobV said on 2/Mar/14
Something like those Jadon style Docs look way cooler to add height than the stuff Robert Downey Jnr or Vin Diesel wear. I have never grasped how, with all their access to styling and cash they can't get something simple like that right.
Rhonda said on 25/Feb/14
I've bought some New Rock boots give nearly 3 inches about 5-6cm. Lots of people wear them who are into rock music and the Jadon style Dr Martins(Jesy from Little Mix wears them) are larger than the normal Dr Martins if you want to gain some more height.
RobV said on 23/Jan/14
@ c-mo175cm-night. Miaow
spillywilly said on 23/Jan/14
I would like to know if anybody can make one shoe 3inches(Left) taller then the right shoe?
c-mo175cm-night said on 22/Jan/14
men who are 5'8 or taller barefoot and use elevator shoes are pussies
said on 22/Jan/14
If you want my guess, Editor Rob, as to where the elevator market will go, it is towards far more mainstream products in which lifts are barely referred to. That's because height does appear to be a little bit more of an aspiration nowadays (let's face it, like so many things which were once barely thought of to do with appearance). If I were to sum up the attitude of many guys today it is that opening paragraph in your entry on actor Bradley Cooper. A taller than average guy who is around 6', talking about himself being "6'2"" and all the while expressing the thought that when he was a teenager he'd hoped/thought he'd be 6'5" when he fully grew. That kind of thinking is quite common and I think that those who make footwear will grasp it. A lot of trainers are already v chunky and add well over an inch. It's not much of a step to see that moving on a notch. I would suspect that the biggest wearers of elevators are possibly people In groups which are shorter comparable to those around them, wherever in the world they are. But as the styles become more varied and fashionable, so more younger guys of all sorts of heights will go for them, simply for aesthetics, in the way that heels become fashionable every now and then. That will also end up making them less of an issue or a kind of joke and they will not be marketed as 'elevators'.
[Editor Rob: the last 2-3 years I notice with women's footwear, really big heels are much more popular, ones with 2-3 inch platforms at the front.
Another trend I've noticed with women last few years is the introduction of these wedged sneakers, specifically
I do see more women wearing them, even a few celebrities - in fact on the Jenna Louise Coleman page I said i wasn't sure of her footwear and it was because it was either a 1-inch type sneaker or one of these 'hidden' wedge sneakers. I only had a brief moment to look at them and couldn't really tell either way.
said on 21/Jan/14
PS one small additional point. Detection is WAY less likely when the footwear is either quite fashionable - like the ones I linked to - or really suits the clothes being worn. That plus quality.That's why with elevators, it is good when you can either find someone to make stuff (like a bootmaker you can level with) or who has some sort of an interest in aesthetics and fashion. I only have one experience with buying elevators 'off the peg' (Dons, recently) and they are definitely well made and convincing, certainly the style I bought. But I would like to see them all expand the ranges if they could to include more stuff which is quite current (they could start by checking the footwear sections of high st fashion places like in the UK Topman or River Island for example - a lot of the stuff is pretty standard). I see the possible argument about it not being economic. I think the idea is for them to try a few styles and see what happens. They might be surprised.
[Editor Rob: there's quite a number of lifts/elevator shoe companies around. I'm always curious as to discover the percentage of men who might wear them in America/UK compared to countries like Japan/China.]
said on 21/Jan/14
@Y.D. You ask about adding insoles to the boots that already have a very big lift (you mention the Don's 4" lift). I do this at times (!) and I agree totally with Editor Rob and would add a couple of things by way of confirmation. Firstly you cannot really add much unless you buy the boots a size or two larger. I did in fact buy my recent Don's a size-and-a-half larger just to see if this were possible and I have added another inch - I have always tended to buy other trainers and boots larger for the purpose of adding max lifts to standard stuff bought without elevators. It has absolutely no bearing on how I walk at that level (the extra inch), but in those new Dons it would definitely do so if I added even more - I know because, er, I tried (aaargh) and yep I could get more in but walking more than a little would not be so easy. Just that tiny bit extra and it goes from total comfort to 'no way'. Bear in mind that even if the boots are 5" elevator and you add another inch, you will still only get 4"-5" in extra height.
I did this recently because I wanted to be as tall as a guy who comes to one of my nights! But that's another story. Normal jeans long enough will cover it fine, and I have to say I have even been easy enough with these new ones to wear them (minus the extra lifts) under skinny jeans, partly because there is one particular style he does which is quite fashionable to wear with them. Look at these jeans and boots from a UK store Click Here
and the boots look v little different to the ones I bought and others like it, the nature of that back shot is such that you could even think they too had lifts as the look is quite clumpy. So if it's an actual look or style that is around you can really get away with it. But being safe and wearing them with normal jeans? No worries.
One other little thing - different insoles work in different ways in different boots. Sometimes for comfort you really are best with the longer foamy ones which go into the full length of the shoe (heel part higher obviously, the rest thin, cut to shape if necessary), others are best with the gel lifts which fit into the heel area and nowhere else. You actually don't know until you try them out.
said on 20/Jan/14
you know these dons shoes, which add 4 inches inside? would it be possible to add one of those 1-2 inch insoles inside aswell? so you could then be 6-7 inches taller inside? and cover it with long jeans if that were possible that would be totally awesome! rob or rob v?
[Editor Rob: getting 4-inches is a helluva lot to begin with, but I don't think you could put anymore in the boots unless they were a bigger size than you normally wear, even then it might just be an extra little cm]
RobV said on 19/Jan/14
@teej about elevators being obvious. The most obvious thing about the boots worn for example by Stallone/Diesel etc is that they are great big clumpy-soled boots which do not go with the clothes you see them in (suits of all things! Aaargh) - specially at awards and red carpet events where you see the whole length of the person captured by the photographer. They look heroically appalling, and the joke is that some of these may not even have lifts or elevators - they might be just normal boots worn to make them look a little taller because those boots DO add an inch+.
But you are wrong about the others having to look obvious, and elevators generally if worn properly and with care taken for aesthetics can be undetectable. Very well made elevators do not make you walk funny, but of course you have to do stuff by stages and degrees. I would always suggest that someone starts with up to 2" and then sees if any more fits their lifestyle.
No-one is aware, for example, of my own new high ones from Dons, but I am already tall (which kinda helps oddly) and I do understand what to wear them with and what not to - if I wore them with a suit I think people would indeed do a doubletake specifically at the boots because they are just so out of place and actually look strange the way all such boots (elevators or not) ride up over a suit leg. But as Editor Rob says, in bootcut jeans making sure you have the right length - no-one would ever know.
said on 17/Jan/14
5'5 inches?! Jesus christ! I know what to buy my 5'6 friend for christmas next year! I have to say, wouldn't shoes that large be obvious from the way you walk that your wearing heels? Rob and Rob V? Like you see girls, walk in 4 inch heels, from behind a counter and you can tell they are wearing heels, because of their body movement, also actors like sylvestor stalone, tom cruise, and vin diesel, when they walk in an unusual walking movement
[Editor Rob: those dons boots - if you wear boot cut jeans (you'll need to buy a pair several inches normal than normal) should cover them so nobody can really tell.]
Zach said on 13/Jan/14
Rob, which shoes(smart/casual) would you say give the most height, but aren't specially made elevator shoes?
RobV said on 22/Dec/13
@ Kelvin and Editor Rob on the Don's 5'/5.5" inch lifts (he has three or four different styles of boot that come in that kinda size lift). These were ones I recently bought and yes, they add 4 inches. For me, getting to 6'6", they are ideal and I can wear them with most stuff as the particular style of his I bought is quite fashionable right now with skinny jeans and you cannot tell there is elevation when the boot is exposed even though they have a pretty big amount there.
I would say though you have to keep them in good condition/polished etc at the heel (even thought the fashion is for them to be quite scruffy!), because if the heel were to get too soft and beaten in, the lift might create a kinda ridge where it ends (where the boot meets your own heel). If that DID happen eventually, it's OK if you are wearing them under jeans but if the boot is in any way exposed (with the trend to tuck very skinny jeans into the boot) then it has to be perfect and no area where it might appear obvious to a sharp eyed person. I would just add that I have had Doc Martens that I have added 4" to in the past and even when they have gotten old and battered like that, no-one has ever noticed or said anything. They all tend to look quite clumpy anyway, which is the current style.
RobV said on 21/Dec/13
@ Grottesca you say it is "sad" wearing elevators and that people will at some point realise "your true height". Sorry to disappoint you, but they don't tend to unless you tell them. As it is, boots and shoes vary and give you anything from almost nothing to an inch and a half in extra height anyway. People aren't going around with tape measures working out that you have an inch advantage on themn because of your Timberlands. Most people just don't care and cannot work out the height of others unless there is a reason - they band people together in "he's taller than me, much taller, about my height, shorter etc". I will grant that if you are very short and wear very big elevators there is way more chance, but in that case it is about degree and care. For me I am tall anyway, have worn them all the time and no-one is aware.
said on 14/Dec/13
hello, I wonder how many actual inches of the shoe don's 5-inch provides? he will give at least 4 inches? thank you
[Editor Rob: I think he has a 5.5 inch model, now that boot should give you 4 inches of height]
said on 10/Dec/13
On the picture above:When you wear these shoes you are 2.4 inches taller than when you are barefoot, or do you have to add the sole to the 2.4 inches as well which is usually about an inch?
[Editor Rob: the shoes have the lift already built into them - they are stuck inside them.]
Emily said on 6/Dec/13
@Powerhouse Sounds like you're jealous of your dad
RobV said on 1/Dec/13
@Grottesca. It's a mistake to dismiss elevators so easily. Apart from anything else, unless you are trying to achieve too much in the wrong type of footwear, it really is not obvious, you can wear them a lot and people are often uncertain about others' heights anyway. Indeed some boots and trainers give a lot of lift anyway and unless you are trying for massive gains, using elevators is not much more than wearing a thicker soled pair of sneakers. I have worn them for 15 years, or boots with lifts in, and no-one has ever noticed.
Grottesca said on 19/Nov/13
This is sad...No matter how tall you are, you should be secure enough with yourself to not feel the need to wear elevator shoes. You can't wear them 24/7...sooner or later people are going to realize your true height.
Matt 185cm said on 29/Sep/13
@RobV do what makes you happy:) thats what I always say and dont worry about negative opinions.
said on 24/Sep/13
@rob, how much height in cm in normal converse/vans shoes?
[Editor Rob: about 1.5-1.6cm, but after a while they can lose a little and be 1.4cm. I had a pair that was brand new 0.6 inch, but after about six months I checked and they were 0.5 inch]
RobV said on 21/Sep/13
What Editor Rob says about people not being able to tell, by and large, is true and is borne out by my own experience. I wear very high elevators (3"+) even though I am 6'2" and provided I wear the right jeans/pants it is simply not possible to detect anything. Every pair is different and you just have to make sure you look in the mirror carefully. I have never been detected by anyone in 15 years doing it.
said on 8/Sep/13
Rob the dons You have CAN pass for normal thick shoes like 1.3-1.4 type
[Editor Rob: if you wear boot cut jeans/trousers that cover a lot of the shoe, then someone looking down at them won't really be able to tell much...]
Powerhouse said on 18/Aug/13
I'm 5'8 and i would never wear elevator shoes. My dad is 5'7 and puts a 2 inch insert in his boot that already gives him height so he is like 5'10 1/2 and wears them everywhere. In my opinion its phony and pathetic and it makes me want to punch him in the face.
said on 15/Aug/13
Rob, any chance you will purchase a pair of Hogan's aka Stallone 'munsters' to do a review on them?
[Editor Rob: I have to watch spending]
RobV said on 11/Aug/13
@ Hemlock Exactly so, when I tell people on here that at 6'2" I add inches by lifts and/or elevators some think that's crazy. But it's good to hear your story which is similar and it really does make a difference doesn't it? At that level of lift that you do by insoles, I am sure you have realised that no-one ever thinks you have added to your height and never notices - all they see is that you are tall, and the height you would like to be. It's funny but if they felt they could guarantee they would not be detected, I think lots more tall guys would add a bit to their height. Maybe the odd inch or so. But they just don't know how easy it is provided you make sure you get it right in each different pair. There's only one person I have actually met who I have talked about this to and that was by a funny chance: quite a few years ago a pretty well-known young guy, taller than my 6'5" when I am wearing lifts, used to come into the old Intrepid Fox in Wardour St, Soho where I worked a bit and we got on well, and I complimented him a lot on his incredible height and always said how fab he looked and how much I'd just love to be his height. One day we were going onto a late party in a neighbouring bar and when we were there and in private he actually asked me if I had ever thought of wearing lifts etc if I wanted to get taller up to his height and was saying what a good idea it was if I did it and telling me what was available! I didn't tell him about mine but I showed real interest and asked where I could get them as I might try (!)and he then took me upstairs to the manager's room and showed me in strict confidence - he had specially made really cool and fashionable boots with elevators and additional lifts. That's when I also realised that what I myself did was so very unlikely to be detected as it had just never in all the times we had met occurred even vaguely that he did that as well - and I as a 6'2" guy was doing it myself! And so of course that's when I told him about mine and he too was totally shocked. We've stayed in touch ever since and it's useful because you get to learn techniques when you talk with others (about certain types of boot, how much height you can get etc, where to get really good fashionable stuff that's not clumpy etc) but it's not something I would talk about to anyone I know unless we were both doing it. And I don't need to - I want others to think I am really tall!
Hemlock said on 7/Aug/13
Rob V I am 6ft but I wear insoles as I have always wanted to be 6ft 2. I know it sounds pretty stupid to a lot of people, but I know where you are coming from.
said on 29/Jul/13
I want to ask , the shoes cost + $35 fr delivery is $323 , after ordering does it have any other hidden charges whch are nt included in $323
I have to order thm dats y want to knw abt d cmplete charges
[Editor Rob: your country may charge customs tax fee on the shoes, I don't know how much]
Don said on 27/Jul/13
ive seen some elevator shoes which are 5.5 inches, im 6ft1 and a half 187cm so if i wore these id be 6'7! basketball players height, jesus! but to be honest they look stupid and i dont think people would get away with it. maybe 2-3 inch ones would do the job but people with 4 inch plus ones would look like their wearing stilts.
RobV said on 22/Jul/13
@ Cruise Missile. What you say in both your posts about insole lifts and getting the hang of it is exactly right. You've also grasped that even family do not really notice. A lot of people who agonise over doing it imagine that everyone will be aware. They just are not. I do exactly the same as you, putting gel insole lifts in my sneakers, and I get a three inch lift which for me is just perfect. And you are right about elevators - you have to get the right sort of styles, specially if you are young. And yes it is v true that with a little practice walking around you get the hang of it v quickly and forget that you have them. In fact I would now feel wrong without them.
said on 17/Jul/13
Why do you care so much about height? I'm just wondering.
[Editor Rob: because it is an interesting enough topic and I am able to earn a living from it. I'd rather do a site I have some interest in and incorporate some fun (like conventions) into the work than working for someone else...]
Cruise Missile said on 10/Jul/13
In addition, for those of those afraid your family might notice the height difference, posture can go a long way. My parents are both 1.7 m (5'7") and I slouch around them slightly when wearing my high tops with insole lifts. With both of them pushing 60 they probably feel as though they are getting shorter with age rather than me getting taller going into my mid-20s. I put 2 cm (0.75") gel insole lifts in my running shoes and low top sneakers and couldn't imagine much higher feeling comfortable without ankle support, for those interested in trying out insole lifts. I have a thick pair of Nike low tops I can fit a 3.25 cm heel support into, but they are an exception rather than the rule.
Insole lifts and elevator shoes are a much cheaper and more practical alternative to leg lengthening surgery. You *can* seemingly "grow" after puberty, just take it with a grain of salt and expect an increase of no more than 5 or 6 cm (2 to 2.5 inches) over your barefoot height with insoles or discreet styled elevators. You'll be surprised how much of a difference it can make if you feel just barely below average height like I did.
Cruise Missile said on 10/Jul/13
I'm an honest 1.75 cm (a touch under 5'9") and have been wearing insole lifts for about 6 months now since the age of 23. I put them in my Nike or DC high tops and wear jeans on a regular basis. I went from feeling slightly short to feeling solidly average. Lifts work best for those like myself slightly below average height, like 1.69 m to 1.76 m (5'7" to 5'9") as long as you don't go too high like Tom Cruise and Robert Downey Jr. can with their 4" lifts while looking like their legs are on stilts. The only time I could consider buying true "elevator" shoes is for formalwear. Daniel Craig and Joseph-Gordon Levitt look great in suits when wearing formal lifts without an issue. Get some high top sneakers or laced boots from reputable brands and try insole lifts. Ankle support is essential for insole lifts over 3 or 4 cm. Nobody thinks I'm wearing ugly purpose-built elevator shoes when they see the Nike swoosh or DC logo. With a little practice walking around, you'll get the hang of it. You DON'T need to buy special elevator shoes to feel lifted. Indeed, the strange styles some of them run in might just give them away.
RobV said on 29/Jun/13
Hi there and I just want to add to what Blue Knight said back in March in favour of elevators. Do not give up on elevators. Yes you do have to make a few minor adjustments to your thinking and posture, particularly if you are going for a lot of extra height, but from my experience it is worth it. I am probably unusual here in that I am already tall - 6'2" - and have always wanted to be as tall as poss. So I wear elevators that make me get to around 6'5". Quality of the shoe is important, as is making sure that you have different styles that fit the different clothes you wear, and don't forget that every normal shoe/trainer/boot gives its wearer some extra height. So really don't be too self conscious or afraid that someone might notice in certain situations. And just cos you have 3 inch gain in one pair of shoes, that doesn't mean to say you have to have the same in all - those riskier and more detectable shoes, like trainers worn where you see the top of the shoe, can have smaller lifts. People are not going to suddenly think you have gotten smaller - but of course you notice it yourself. I myself am sad that flares only came back into fashion for a few years in the UK and then went out again a few years back! When I wore these real long they easily covered a pair of boots that gave me an undetectable 4 inch lift. But just because I have dropped back an inch or so doesn't mean to say that everyone notices! And just asking, is there anyone else out there who is tall like me but likes to gain an even more unfair advantage?! I'd be interested in knowing.
michael j rox said on 18/Jun/13
I'm always reading how elevator shoes are suposed to make you feel more confident. I have owned several pairs of elevators over the years but they seem to have the reverese effect on me. While the slight height increrase is nice, (at best you maybe get a 1.5 inch extra lift on top of what you would get wearing a normal dress shoe)the tilt in the heel makes you contantly aware that you are tip toeing around the room. If I go to a crowded club where I will drink & dance, I feel way less steady on my feet than in regular shoes, quite often just walking I feel i could almost roll my ankel.Also i feel that if some drunks decided to beat me up I wouldnt be able to run away or stand and fight for that matter as they would find it far easier to knock me down in my elevators. Also running across roads to avaoid traffic or walking up or down steep hills can be harder. On top of that I always worry that a friend will notice my shoes if I take them off or by the fact that if they run somewhere I wont be able to keep up ( Like a girl in high heels). I have recently ordered some dons mid sole tech elevators as they are suposed to feel like wearing normal shoes. I hope this is the case because mostly the hassel & discomphort of getting around in elevator shoes makes the extra 1.5 in height seem pointless.
shortdildowearer said on 18/Jun/13
you people don't know what it's like to be four foot ten. and by the way, i'm female and have no desire to be anyone's little pocket bitch. the only way these shoes would work for me is if they made me six inches taller. and i'm no stupid-ass girly twit so I have no desire to wear retarded looking stilettos.
TheVerve180cm said on 4/Jun/13
I think that if at least 170cm or more you dont need them ;)
said on 3/Jun/13
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said on 28/May/13
As a guy that's shorter than 5'3" .. and I'm in a weird business where there are rarely short men..I need shoes like this. My question is, how comfortable are some of Don's Shoes? And Will people even notice? I myself wear slim jeans and hate bootcut, but I'm currently in the process to lose a lot of weight. So I guess my main question is how comfortable are they? And do you think Dr. Scholls insoles might help with the pain?
[Editor Rob: it depends if you are wearing them to work every day. It would take a while to get used to the higher angle of your feet. It won't be as comfortable as normal shoes, but they have decent insoles.
If you were planning to wear elevators a lot, make sure you take exact measurements that are shown on dons site and wear them gradually, like an hour a day, then build up so your body adapts easier.]
SAK said on 24/May/13
If a shoe company advertises a elevator shoe to give 6 or 6.5cm, in reality will that mean they actually give 4-5cm of added height to barefoot height. I am trying to look for shoes that give 4-5cm of added height no more.
Elfoersaan said on 17/May/13
Elevator shoes are a piece of ****. I received mine of tallmenshoes.com a couple of days ago. I decided to order real cheap ones, because I would wear them very rarely and it was just out of curiousity. So that's why I decided to order extra height increasing shoes that would add 4 inches to my height. I measured myself several times before and after wearing the shoes, it seems the shoes don't even add a full 6 cm. So the products from tallmenshoes.com that claim to make you 4 inches taller, make you in fact only 2.36 inches taller. So I don't recommend them for people who are not short at all. But then again, it was just for fun.
said on 11/May/13
---I think, height aside, the shoes make you look more "proportioned"...If you look at Rob's "before" pic, his legs look a bit shorter than his torso would warrant---in the "after" pic, his legs look the perfect length for his body.....As for friends wondering why you appear "taller," most dress shoes add at least an inch---what's another inch? I think if people visually see a small heel (as Rob's shoes have), they automatically assume any extra height is caused by wearing dress shoes (like wearing cowboy boots)...If a guy wants to be a couple inches taller, so what? I don't understand what the big deal is...we women wear 4 inch heels all the time---2 1/2 inches is tame in comparison....Good for you!! (They look great, too)....
[Editor Rob: if you have shorter legs compared to your body, then as you say, adding an extra inch and a bit can make you more proportioned and with wider pants/trouser hems the shoe would be covered even more so nobody would be able to really spot elevators unless they really paid attention closely.]
truth177cm said on 2/May/13
So they can give you whole 3 inches. That is like skipping a whole height range.
Kevin buckles said on 29/Apr/13
Im sorry but these just look silly,the proportions look all wrong and it makes your feet look to big for your height.i dont advise these enless your really worried.guys enless your like 4'11 or 5'2 then i wouldnt worry.there are plenty of people below your height or same as.