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paulpierce said on 7/Sep/16
Rob I can see you mentioned that the 2.5 Mid-sole shoes from Dons will look chunky and people will notice them if worn with skinny jeans. I am in the same predicament as the fellow poster who asked that. How noticeable will it be? Do you have any pictures of people wearing them?

Also u suggested to purchase the 2.2/2.3 inch version shoes. If the 2.5 versions give around 2.3inches of height, how much would a 2.3 inch SHOE give?

thanks
[Editor Rob: it will still give a solid 2 inches and even that fraction difference might mean wearing them is easier on a day to day basis. Once you get used to a 2-2.2 inch, it might be easier later on to move to something like a 2.75.

I think some people jump in too high with elevators, buying the 2.75 or 3 inch. Those will be more noticeable with skinny jeans. The 2 -2.3 inch won't be quite, I think you can get away with it more.

Also with elevators you have to think about what you will say to other people if they notice your extra height - I suppose you could be honest and say thicker shoes! Or fixed your posture or something.]
KDfor3 said on 6/Sep/16
Rob how many inches would 2.5 midsole tech version of DONS shoes give in actual height?

2.3 inches?
[Editor Rob: they should give closer than the old style of lift, I'd expect near that 2.3 inch zone yes because the insole doesn't slope harshly at first, it is a gradual curve meaning you get a little bit more height compared to old style of insoles in the Dons.]
KDfor3 said on 6/Sep/16
Hi there Rob!

Hope you are well. I wanted to ask to something about morning and evening height. When i wake up i measure at 172cm with good posture (standing my tallest)
but at night it creeps down to 170cm with good posture (standing my tallest)

Now, i am going to be completely honest. I weigh 85 KG (overweight for my height), never do any sort of exercise or stretches, lay in bed all day, eat terribly (cant remember the last time i drank water) and generally have awful posture too.

Now i am planing to make big changes in my life. I want to start working out, losing weight, mastering perfect posture to stand the tallest I can, do daily stretches everyday that will help my spine to hydrate, drink loads of water and have a great, clean, healthy diet. also thinking about taking glucosamine pills as I heard they help with height (could you please confirm this)

What I am trying to ask is that can my maximum morning height (172) and max evening height (170) increase? Please note that when taking these measurements, I am standing my absolute tallest. With all the things i mentioned I am willing to change, is it possible for either of those figures to go up and by how much? where would that extra height be coming from?

I am 20 years old so im hoping i still have time to grow. i havent really grown in the past 5 years. my brothers are 6'2 and 5'11. father is 5'7 mum is 5'2. asked my father about any late growth, he said he cant remember. Do u think there is some time left? should i get my growth plates checked?

sorry for the long message, but i hope you can get back to me with as much info as possible

p.s im also planning on purchasing 2.5 version of DONS boots.

thanks a lot ROB!
CP3 said on 5/Sep/16
Hey Rob.

I wear skinny jeans like these every single day
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i am looking to purchase some low top shoes from DONS such as adidas samba, vans, ralph lauren and even some bigger ones such as the HULK and chelsea boots all at the 2.5 inch raise

I am scared that they will be noticeable to people especially since i wear jeans such as those.. what do you reckon Rob?

would people be able to tell im wearing elevators especially since they will be 2.5 inch raise

Thanks a lot Rob
[Editor Rob: 2.5 will look a bit more chunkier. I think 2 is a very safe mark to buy, or 2.2/2.3 inch.

Remember most people who look downwards are seeing the boot at a different angle than if they were lying on the floor looking directly at it - the extra bulkiness gets masked easier.

I think the chelsea type boot is a good one to try out.]
RobV said on 4/Sep/16
@ Phil I have to agree with your comment about the trite and meaningless comment by 'Jan' dissing and flaming people who wear elevators or care for their appearance in other ways. Frankly, who cares if she witters on about being 'attractive' and scattering cliches about 'personality'. Good for you love, get over yourself and have a lie down. This section of the site is about elevators, not homilies and low grade cant.

The fact is that the vast majority of people do NOT know you are wearing elevators if you do it properly - the higher you go the more stuff you have to take into account, so for an average guy an extra couple of inches is only really detectable to you yourself - and it makes you feel better being just that bit taller. Sure a short person wearing 5" elevators will find it difficult to finesse, but that really is not the whole story in regard to adding height.
Hardi said on 4/Sep/16
Rob, I have a question about elevator shoes and shoe lifts. If you look elevator shoes or shoe lifts, then you see that all the lifts and elevators have that tilt which in my opinion may make person to lean forward if he wears them on a daily basis and therefore it will affect your posture and you will not be able to "stand tall" anymore. I think better solution would be Cuban heel or just very thick outsole, like 1.5-2 inch, some military boots (or these "Robert Smith boots" Click Here). It may feel more wierd, because your whole foot is like 2 inches off the ground. Some people would rather want their toes to be close to floor. Also it can give a look like KISS boots if wearing more than 2 inches.
For the conclusion I§d say Cuban heels or thicker outsole will make your feet more comfortable, but other people can notice that easily AND wearing insole lifts, it makes your feet hurt more, but people won§t notice it.

What do you think about that? Thanks for reading the whole text too!
[Editor Rob: Goth style boots are an alternative, ones with 1 inch thick section at front and near 2 at the back, means the angle isn't too harsh like on an elevator.]
Phil said on 31/Aug/16
@JAN

who cares who you are attracted to or not. The world is very superficial and you will be judged. All that garbage about
personality is ridiculous. If someone finds out that I am wearing lifts, i will just admit it straight up. There is no need to be
embarrassed about enhancing your image.
Hardi said on 25/Aug/16
If you say you would recommend elevator shoes max 2-2.5 inch then do you mean the real height that they give so they would be described like 3 inch or described as 2-2.5 inch and actually give little less?
[Editor Rob: yes, I mean the ones advertised at 2.5, 2.75 range. These will give you a solid 2 inches and change.

If you choose to wear elevators, I think that level of actual height (2.3 inches) is enough, for daily wear. The bigger versions I'd say might be more suited to occasional wear.

Saying that, there are users who wear bigger versions, but for comfort sake I'd always recommend a more modest size.]
svk said on 17/Aug/16
hey rob
I watched almost all videos of your youtube channel, and i found everybody is scamming, wheather it is GT4I or REINIS. So is there any program which is really effective? i`am 19 and 5ft 6inch. i dont find any way to communicate with you, so why i write in your website. please help
[Editor Rob: the best you can do is try your own program for a year to maximise posture.

Hanging, daily stretching, inversion - they might add a bit.]
Sam said on 10/Aug/16
Height isn't all its cracked up to be if you're self-confident. For others its just a matter of interest.
Colin H. Wright said on 7/Aug/16
Two days ago I was 81 and about 5ft 6. at my tallest I was something under 5ft 8. Doesn't bother me now didn't bother me then. Didn't seem to bother anyone else either. Save your money and spend it on a nice girl who doesn't care how tall//short you are!
LukeSimp said on 7/Aug/16
Hello ROB

i think we are all familiar with the amazing work of DONS. they create some fantastic shoes.

However, i came across another site called guidomaggi. Italian based, also make elevator shoes.

some of there designs i fell in love with such as these...
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The 2.4inch model, how much height do you think they would give? we all know it will not be 2.4 exactly, but around?

also have you got any knowledge of this company?

or do you think I am better off asking DONS to replicate these designs

thanks!
[Editor Rob: I don't believe the Guido use the higher midsole tech that Dons uses to gain a little bit more height. From what I've seen, the inserts can be taken out in some models, but with Dons they are more fixed.

The Guido certainly appear from their site and instagram to be a very well made brand, with a price reflecting it.

I would ask Dons if they could get a similar model, they do custom styles for people.]
LukeSimp said on 5/Aug/16
hello everyone

just waned to ask if any of you guys own a pair of dons elevator shoes. if so do people notice them and ask you about them?
JAN said on 27/Jul/16
There's nothing more unattractive and off-putting than an insecure man pretending to be something that he is not - in every department. It's false advertising. Personally I prefer taller slender athletic men, that is my taste. I am small dark and petite, that is my husband's taste. I know I am attractive person, but not to every man's taste. Some like blonde and curvy, others slender and petite. I don't take this personally it's just how we are. My confidence comes from within. If you focus on finding someone who is attracted to you for your real qualities rather than pretending to project this false image you'll have more luck finding someone. I used to shudder meeting an online date in person only to find someone claiming they were 6' tall and toned to be short (5' 8) and pudgy. It's a massive turn-off to fake it. Same for women wearing 10lbs of makeup and spanks. It's fraudulent and a turn-off. Those elevator shoes are gonna have to come off sometime, so spare yourself the embarrassment and your partner the disappointment of the charade. Be your best, be confident and accepting of yourself and most of all be real.
LukeSimp said on 3/Jul/16
Hey Rob

considering dons shoes dont give exactly the height that they may advertise, i realsied that in elevators, i will be a good 5'9.25. Now i wanted to see how tall i would look if i was to ever take a picture with you aha, so im guessing i cant be the same as celebs that are noted as 5'9.25 on this site that you have taken pictures with since that is a barefoot height, and in shoes they would be taller.

so could you please let me know what height pictures should i be looking at? 5'8.75? 5'8.5?

it would be great if you could throw some specific names out

thanks rob
[Editor Rob: yes, probably 5ft 8.75 range]
paulpierce said on 25/Jun/16
ROB

i wanted to ask you if getting the 2.5inch versions of the Vans and Samba will be noticeable to people when they look at your shoes? I always wear skinny jeans, but super skinny, but fairly skinny, the types Bieber wears. But yeah, how noticeable will it be that I am wearing elevators to people, with the 2.5 versions?

Thanks
[Editor Rob: if you sit down and they see the whole shoe, a few might think it looks different or thicker...but will they probe/question you about it? I doubt it, so wouldn't worry because most of the time your trouser might cover a portion of the shoe, so nobody will really notice it.

Most people are thinking about themselves more than others...]
ajs said on 20/Jun/16
This question is for Jedi Master 5'11: I'm wondering if you ever started a blog? Oh, and by the way, I'm a legitimate 6'0". Maybe a fraction of an inch taller.
If I buy 4 inches said on 19/Jun/16
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBagAuKDwkk/?taken-by=gordongram&hl=en

I think Gordon Ramsay wears big elevators but can't confirm. That's just one picture
Luke said on 23/May/16
Hey Rob,

I I were to buy a 2.5" 'midsole tech' elevator shoe (any shoe) from Don's, what would you say the expected increase in actual height will be? Would it be around 2.25" or so?

Thanks.
[Editor Rob: yes I'd expect a bit over 2 inches, the 3 inches might get you more 2.5-2.7 range.]
Jedi Master 5'11 said on 16/May/16
From what I've seen lately, there are not many people who are legitimate 6'0". Not in my neck of the woods at least.
Jedi Master 5'11 said on 16/May/16
From what I've seen lately, there are not many people who are legitimate 6'0". Not in my neck of the woods at least.
5'7 said on 26/Apr/16
How much realistic height do you believe someone gets from a 4" Don 's elevator shoe?
[Editor Rob: could be in 3 inch range]
paulpierce said on 21/Apr/16
so you reckon some extra cm's can be gained? [Editor Rob: I'd definitely do this. Just some simple exercise daily, use a hanging bar for decompressing the spine. Also sometimes it is a mental correction needed to remember when you start slouching to try to adjust posture and walk/stand tall.]
[Editor Rob: it depends on the state of your body/posture - an athlete doing this won't really have much benefit....but some people might gain an improvement through months of regular stretch/exercise/hanging...in effect maximising their height and untapping a little tiny bit extra.]
174ish dude said on 20/Apr/16
Hey Rob, if you would be so kind I was wondering how much height you think would be gained with these? Click Here I'm guessing not the full 3 inches
[Editor Rob: more like 2.3 inches]
paulpierce said on 14/Apr/16
hey rob might be in the wrong section but hey ahah so im 168.5cm when im standing (terrible posture). when i stand up straight i am 170.5cm. good posture. I am in terrible shape, never really went to the gym. if i start going, work on my back, posture, do hanging exercises, can that 170.5 go any higher or is that the max?
[Editor Rob: I'd definitely do this. Just some simple exercise daily, use a hanging bar for decompressing the spine. Also sometimes it is a mental correction needed to remember when you start slouching to try to adjust posture and walk/stand tall.]
trilln4real said on 11/Apr/16
hello rob i am going to buy the 2inch vans from dons. i wear skinny jeans, Not skin tight, but the types that justin bieber wears. will it be visible to people that i am wearing elevators
[Editor Rob: the 2-inch will look thicker than a standard vans...but when people are near you and looking down at your feet, most wouldn't even realise or think 'that's a bit thicker than normal']
Peter said on 10/Apr/16
Hello Rob ! Which one gives you a greater boost? New Balance 574 or Nike Air Force 1 ? In both how many centimeters you can get ? Thanks :)
[Editor Rob: both are a bit over an inch new, I don't think you would notice much difference between them really.]
Matrix said on 31/Mar/16
Hey Rob, how much height do you think these shoes are gonna give me? (~ Size 41 European, which is normally 8 or 7.5 US). Click Here Thx in advance!
[Editor Rob: could be 1.3-1.5 zone. It's a bulky looking basketball shoe, so I'd expect that range.]
RobV said on 20/Mar/16
@ Jedi Master You say you've noticed a problem with elevators in terms of comfort after a lot of wear, but I think it really DOES depend upon whether you have bought cheap ones or not. Which ones are they? I have had no problems in comfort with either my GuidoMaggis or my Don's and these generally are the best two on the market. And I wear 5" elevators for much of the time, and even add a little to get the full effect by buying my boots a bit bigger than normal. It's been two years since I wore elevators pretty much full time, before that I wore lifts and now THAT is where you have to be careful in terms of comfort and raw heels - I still do wear lifts in some things (like trainers) as well as in elevators. You really DO have to try things out a lot, but all my long experience with both tells me that discomfort is less and less likely with time (rather than the other way round).

Many guys at first find that the very act of wearing the extra height feels odd, even if it's just a couple of inches - the pluses very quickly kill that feeling though!
Jedi Master 5'11 said on 13/Mar/16
@Matt179cm

I think I noticed a problem with elevators. I find after a couple months of wearing them, my heel starts to feel raw.
I don't quite get this sensation when wearing a lift in my shoe, but I'm starting to think that it's putting to much strain on my bones.

Like Matt179cm below said, he wears a 1 inch lift in his Nike Shox.
So he should be pushing 6' 1", for a fair 6' 0" claim. I do the same for my Nikes,
and its actually pretty legit even if you wear shorts.

Pretty unnoticeable even, and other men will flinch at the gym.

Lol, I'm probably annoying but I love this subject so I don't care. I'm going to yap about it.

Matt, if you wake up late in the day then you have 1 inch on everyone + the shoe without the heel then you can say 6' 1" without needing the heel.
5' 10.5" is basically 5' 11.5"

I don't really think I'm going to be growing much more. I wear 30 x 32, 31 x 32 slim jeans, tried getting 31 x 34 and they were way too long even with my boots.
We can probably both get 30 x 33 and have a more slimming effect with the right shoe.

For us 5' 10.5" and 5' 11" men, claiming 6' 0" even is quite easy and agreeable when we're nightowls and wear at minimum 1 inch heel on the bottom of the shoe. We really don't need a lift, and the average population already thinks we're in the ideal-average-tall group.

If I wake up at 5 PM on the weekend, go out, I can technically say I've gained an inch.

So, if I were 5' 10.5" the moment I wake up, that's the height I'll go with. Everyone else who's normally 5' 10.5" in the morning is now 5' 9.5" or 5' 9.75" or 5' 10". They're shorter than you when you're taller. Now you can say 5' 11.5". I'm about 5'11.25 - 5'11.75" when I wake up and sometimes just 5' 11" if I sleep all hunched up. So if I wake up at the end of the day instead of the morning, all 5' 11" men become 5' 10". I have an inch on them, so I become 6' 0.25 - 6' 0.75" in appearance — add shoes with regular 0.5 or 1 inch, 1.4 inch heel — 6' 1", 6' 1.5" — add 1 inch more in lift and you have 6' 2", 6'2.5" range. If you're lucky and the math adds up with the right shoe: 6' 3" maybe. It'd be an interesting claim but when the shoes come off it's pretty much defeated.

Of course, all barely 6' 3" men become 6' 2" - 6' 2.5" at the end of their days, 6' 2.5" - 6' 2" men become 6'1.5" minimum, maybe even 6'0.75". In theory, the math checks out but the way you carry yourself (posture and other ****) will reinforce whatever tricks you use.

Or you can go to space for a couple months and gain a couple inches: Click Here

Lol
Jedi Master 5'11 said on 13/Mar/16
@Matt179cm

I think I noticed a problem with elevators. I find after a couple months of wearing them, my heel starts to feel raw.
I don't quite get this sensation when wearing a lift in my shoe, but I'm starting to think that it's putting to much strain on my bones.

Like Matt179cm below said, he wears a 1 inch lift in his Nike Shox.
So he should be pushing 6' 1", for a fair 6' 0" claim. I do the same for my Nikes,
and its actually pretty legit even if you wear shorts.
Pretty unnoticeable even, and other men will flinch at the gym.

Matt, if you wake up late in the day then you have 1 inch on everyone + the shoe without the heel then you can say 6' 1" without needing the heel.
5' 10.5" is basically 5' 11" lol.

I don't really think I'm going to be growing much more. I wear 30 x 32, 31 x 32 slim jeans, tried getting 31 x 34 and they were way too long even with my boots.
We can probably both get
Jedi Master 5'11 said on 3/Mar/16
Tried an experiment today. It was my first day without wearing any elevators or lifts. I put on my regular white Nike tennis shoes and stood up against my height wall, corrected my posture and then measured. 6' 0.25" in regular tennis shoes, 6' 0" even second time I measured.

Went to go grab a cup of coffee, and felt seemingly shorter than everyone I normally see that frequents or works there. (I'm not really a fan of buying coffee in a shop but it's good to get out of the house for little minute reasons I guess? I prefer to buy the Tastier's choice that you find on the coffee isle in a grocery store xD. Saves you alot.) These shoes have about an inch of a gel heel to them, or whatever the standard is for regular tennis shoes. So I know I'm about 5' 11" minimum if I take them off.

I feel short lately, as if I haven't been trying. I'm not even 21 yet, and I'm projecting to gain at least another inch before I stop growing, which I think would be fair. If I stop at 6' 0" or 6' 1" that'd be great, and then I can add elevators and tower.

Here's a good comparison chart I came up with:

5' 2" - 5' 3" Very Short for Men, Around Average for Women
5' 4" - 5' 5.5" Short for Men, Slightly Above Average for Women
5' 6" - 5' 7" Shorter than Average for Men, Average and Ideal, on the Tall Side for Women
5' 8 - 5' 9" Average for Men, Tall for Female
5' 10" Taller than you'd think for men(like really though, a lot of 5' 10''ers actually come off a lot taller (hell my mom thought i was like 6 feet when i was 5' 10 a year or two ago), Amazon for Female
5' 11" Perfect for literally everything except dating a taller female if you're insecure about it like most average tall men, on the Taller Side for both Men and Women. For Women, it's Goddess-Amazon level. It is normally the minimum height a man will put on his dating profile. It can be considered tall to a degree, and many men who can get away with saying they're 5'11 when they're 5'10 can also easily get away with 6' 0".
6' 0", the Ideal Height. The standard, the checkpoint, the average height for a male model. It is not short, and it is considered tall.
6' 1" The cringe height for both men and women, typically when they're afraid someone is going to grill them if they don't want to admit they're 6' 2". It is tall, and can often get confused with 6' 2" if you don't have an eye for height. Good for club bouncers, security & henchmen, and male models
6' 2" The natural panty-dropper if you aren't ugly. If you can become 6' 2" with a simply change of shoes then do it! You are lucky! If you're 6'1-"6' 2" flat then you might have problems with the seats on planes. 6' 2" is the unspoken cut off point for male models.
6' 3"- 6'5" Really anything above 6' 2" is kind of unnecessary unless 6' 2" is the average height in your country or place of residence. Then being 6' 6" or more is great
6' 6" Thor

Really though, anything over 6' 2" is more of a power statement. It's not a bad thing to be taller than that, and in fact it can be quite appealing to a lot of people. I think I'd be content with a fair 6' 2" - 6' 3" in boots.. 6' 3" is the magic height if you have the shoulders to defend it.

I have a black friend that is around 6' 2", and he's definitely 6' 3" in whatever shoes he wears or is just being modest. It has to be true if my shoes push me up to 6' 1.75"- 6' 2". Either that or I have no concept of measurement.

You have to consider your proportions when wearing bigger boots or shoes, which also sparks this idea:

We should totally get the word out on socks that make you taller and get someone to start making them.

A thicker sock that adds about 0.5 inches to your foot all around, increasing your foot size and forcing you to wear a bigger shoe. It would have to be made out of a breathable, but comfortable rigid gel material with inner paddin to avoid odor and stockpiling of sweat. Essentially it would be a foot impant in simplest terms, but in reality it is a sock, walks and talks like a sock, and therefore it is perceived as a sock. It would add a full 0.5 inch on the bottom and around the front, cover your toes and would thin out before it hits the ankle. Combine this with any elevator boot and you will probably get around the advertised height and not the amount taken away from your posture and what not.

Instead of hitting 6'2'' in elevator boots, I would hit 6'2.5" and then I'd be able to fairly say I'm over 6' 1" or state fairly that I am 6' 2" or 6' 1".

Most of the 6' 1, 6' 2"ers that I know are roughly in the same ballpark, and not really much less so it's kind of tough to distinguish on certain days and time of day. Don't forget that we lose an inch throughout the day from gravity compressing our spine. Knowing that would make you sleep throughout the day and only go out at night when everyone has already lost an inch :)

I wear some regular Sperry Top-Siders with an added boost in them of about 1 inch as well. They kind of compress my foot, but hug it perfectly so they don't fly off my feet if I'm not wearing socks. This ensures that I'm in the 6' 0", 6'1" range. Wear the right kind of pant or short with the right haircut and you can look even taller. Shorter hairstyles can also make your shoulders appear a bit more broaden, which is naturally in relation to height as well. A 5' 5" guy could easily come off as 5' 8" or 5' 9" with effective 'tampering'. Grow a beard on your face, and trim it under your neck. Just keep it off your neck. If you're tall, a longer beard won't really change much. It might even push you down an inch or more in appearance if you're not already like 6'3+. I will probably be looking down your beard more while talking to you if it's well groomed or such. a Russell Brand 5 o'clock shadow on the other hand will avert the eyes more on your jawline—(Which can also be accentuated by trimming your beard a certain way. And can majorly affect your appearance.) A Howard Stern Afro can make you taller, but in other cases won't work unless you are already tallish I thought Benedict Cumberbatch was like 6' 2" with his sherlock hair. His face shape also contributed to that belief.

//Taller tricks for average d00dz

1) A nice monochrome suit = streamline = taller
2) The suit hangs off your shoulders, but is tailored for the right fit = streamline = taller
3) Your hairline begins above the collar of your shirt(if it isn't already) = streamline = taller
4) Hairstyle, in conjunction with your hairline accentuates longer neck. Taller hairstyle no more than 2 inches above your head. = = taller
5) Beard is optional, results may vary = typically makes you taller depending how it relates in conjunction with your hairstyle as well apparently
6) Your suit pants have no break at the end, are slim and hug your legs. Same goes for regular jeans. They give off a visual streamline = spider legs = taller
7) 3 inch black dress shoes or boots build on the spider legs = streamline = taller. (Make sure they are a size bigger)
8) Sleep without a pillow, flat on your stomach & return yourself 1.5 inches~ when you begin your day.
9) Wear a hat. (This is like peacocking, where you essentially place a wearable conversation piece on your body. In this case, you're just placing something "visually pulling" on your head to draw attention. A cowboy hat is a good example.)
10) Round up if you're a half inch or more than the mark. (Example, if you're 5'11.5" just say 6' 0"., or 5'8.75, just say 5' 9". Avoid getting specific with people. It's kinda obvious that you care to the decimal and this sometimes draws negative vibes)
11) Wear visually appealing, but mildly interesting clothing that hugs your body or draws attention above. (I.e., Henley shirt, Leather jacket,) //A side note—There are alot of shorter guys starting to wear Henley shirts. It's a stylish shirt that every man should have in his wardrobe if he's interested in becoming visually appealing.) Long sleeve shirts in general also help. Jackets can also accentuate a slightly bigger torso, which build on the streamline effect of the spider legs.
12) If you're in work clothing, make sure your tie meets your belt buckle and that your clothes fit you and do not hang off the sides. They should be comfortable but also slimming. Be aware of wear your arse is in conjunction with your waist. Ladies love the ass if it's in proportion with your back (good posture). Also, ditch the tie & unbutton the top button but keep the shirt tucked in. Your legs will decide the rest = streamline = taller
13) Look up every placebo/magic pill out there on how to win at life and then implement them. A little faith in yourself will improve your posture without you consciously being aware of it until someone notices. And then humbly show some hubris once you're aware. = Taller

So I'm pretty positive that those tricks would turn someone who's 5' 11" to 6' 2.5" or more. 5' 10" to 6' 1.5", and 5' 9" to 6' 0.5". I still have yet to get the haircut. It definitely plays a mind game on your friends if you get the right cut. Keep it short and off your shoulders. Hell... a taper fade would even work. Or a military crew cut, where you leave a patch on top. It normally gives off the same illusion as wearing a hat. But always be mindful of who you are and who you look like. Categorizing yourself will help you narrow down where you stand physically.But at the end of the day, you must realize that you are not the height you falsely advertise yourself as. None of these methods will make your bones longer. And those are what decides your height. How you sit in in a chair and how you carry yourself can also give off the false impression you want. Don't let this get you down (pun).

Mom commented on my appearance the other day, after my dad measured my height. My dad is insecure about it though, barely hitting 5' 10" now-a-days, kinda moved his finger down on my height wall. I caught him, and thank my lucky stars t was 6' 0". (If you haven't guessed already, I measure myself almost everyday. My parents just happened to be in the room this time and we were congregating something when they noticed my wall.)

My dad acted surprised, even though I come off as a foot taller than him sometimes.(according to mom) She said, "He's tall, you can see it in his neck." //Which is not where its coming from usually. I was wearing regular shoes too, so I wasn't getting my full boost. If you guys want any tips or tricks, I've been talking with the other Rob through email about the ways he boosts himself from 6' 2 to 6' 7". Pretty wicked. I might start a men's blog or something if anyone here would be interested in reading or contributing to our efforts to become taller. I love seeing that other people are actively looking for the secrets.

May the force be with you Rob, Jenny, & Celebheights :D
Matt179cm said on 3/Mar/16
The best Sport shoes that give the max lift is the Nike R4 Shox. They give 1.4 inch lift, I stuff a 1 Inch lift inside the shoe. It really give 2.4 Inch lift, im 5Feet10.5 inch. With those shoes it boost me up too 6feet1. But the thing you need to remember is that too look taller you gotta wear Proper clothes. Tight fitting clothes help. As wear the same color , like a dark jeans with a black t-shirt. Not being overweight help with Looking taller/slimmer. All those actors are healthy weights. You gotta remember that Height Only matter when your standing or Far Appart from people. When your sitting or near people Height matter less.
newdude said on 28/Feb/16
haha, noo rob, i meant the actual height of the shoe. If i measured the shoe from the outside from the back, top to bottom how high is the SHOE not the height i increase by ahha thanks [Editor Rob: at the very back it will give 2 inches in height. The 'pivot point' might be a slightly bit below this (where your ankle pivots), but you should still get nearly 2 inches from them.]
[Editor Rob: I don't know the overall height, but Dons will have made the back of the lift so that if you took away the back section it would measure around 2 inches - the actual part that covers your heel I don't know how much that gives.]
Jedi Master 5' 11 said on 28/Feb/16
@Simone I kinda notice them. How big are they
newdude said on 23/Feb/16
rob, how high do you think the 2inch vans model are that dons sell. from top to bottom, what is the height of the shoe from the back?
[Editor Rob: at the very back it will give 2 inches in height. The 'pivot point' might be a slightly bit below this (where your ankle pivots), but you should still get nearly 2 inches from them.]
Simone said on 21/Feb/16
@Rob : what do you think about those boots I buyed? How tall would you guess me here? Click Here I'm scared because I think people might notice shoe lifts Click Here
[Editor Rob: you can pull off looking at least 5ft 10 with them, they aren't really that big - I doubt people would think 'that guy is wearing lifts!']
Simone said on 18/Feb/16
@Rob: how tall would you guess me here? Click Here look at the shoes! :)
[Editor Rob: well because both of you are not slim, but look to have some bulk it can be harder to say...above average I'd have thought but not 6ft+]
Jedi Master 5' 11 said on 17/Feb/16
I will probably have an arsenal of Don's accumulated within the next few years. I'll be sticking with my Calden boot for a while. It's going well for me, and no one really has noticed the secret inside! Hope everyone else is doing well
@RobV I emailed you!
SNS said on 9/Feb/16
I have been buying Don's shoes for a while. They are awesome, in terms of the quality of the design and the customization choices. Plus Allan is tremendous with the personalized support (I asked him if he can make certain golf shoes based on a set design, and he came through with great results !!!). I am a customer for life. Thank you Don shoes :)
Question said on 9/Feb/16
Hi Rob. For a pair of shoes like these: Click Here or any other dress elevator - is the increase you select based from bare feet? What increase would you recommend to be about 1 to 1.5 taller than regular dress shoes?
[Editor Rob: for those I'd buy 2.5 or 2.75 as they have 'midsole tech' so that the amount of actual height you gain is much closer to the advertised height.]
Luke Simp said on 9/Feb/16
Hmm ok. I think the zip jeans could work wonders..they hide the extra thickness of the shoe. its something bieber has been doing a lot recently. Click Here Click Here Click Here I'm looking to gain an extra 1.8ish inches therefore buying the 2inch vans will be perfect. If I go for the 1.5style, then I would only be getting around 1.3 inches, which isnt enough. any further comments? also, what do you reckon would be the height for the 2inch style? [Editor Rob: the 2 inch style will look thicker...the 1.5 inch nobody will really be able to tell even with those zip jeans...but the extra half inch I think can make it look a bit thicker. When people look down at your shoes though (who are beside you) they won't notice it as much compared to if they were standing further back and could view you more side on. Looking down at your shoes they really won't notice much difference because of the angle they are viewing at.]
[Editor Rob: the 2 inch might be worth going for as it will be getting you that extra cm which visually might help you look just that bit taller to people around you.]
Average Height person said on 6/Feb/16
This may be off topic a bit but i was wondering I am a big guy obese. Does that mean that i will shrink more during the day than if i was average weight?
RobV said on 6/Feb/16
@ Jedi Master Wear the elevators you have for a while and see how you go with them. You clearly wanna get even taller, as I did! I am 6'2.5" and regularly hit 6'6" or even a tad more. I do indeed wear the 4" and 5" elevators, as Editor Rob mentioned in his reply to you and I have done it with great success but you have to stick to good quality and very very standard styles if you go that high. Until a few years ago I was bothered about elevators as they all seemed crap but then I reviewed my opinion looking at some better stuff that has come on the market. Until then i wore a lot of lifts etc in boots that could take the max.

I say this endlessly to guys on here, but women do not greatly notice because they themselves wear heels of all types and so have a different perspective on height. If ever you want more advice contact me on robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk
Luke Simp said on 5/Feb/16
Rob. Will it be visible to people that I have elevator shoes on when I wear these elevator vans, 2 inch style? Click Here I always wear these jeans (notice the zip at the bottom), and joggers like these. Click Here Click Here Also, what about the samba and ralph lauren style shoes that Dons sell, 2 inch style?
[Editor Rob: the 2 inch style will look thicker...the 1.5 inch nobody will really be able to tell even with those zip jeans...but the extra half inch I think can make it look a bit thicker. When people look down at your shoes though (who are beside you) they won't notice it as much compared to if they were standing further back and could view you more side on. Looking down at your shoes they really won't notice much difference because of the angle they are viewing at.]
Dion said on 2/Feb/16
Do elevator shoes actually make a difference compared to just putting insoles in a pair of shoes or high tops visually wise? If so, what's the cutting point for elevator shoes/boots before they start to become noticeable.
[Editor Rob: lifts are the cheapest and easiest option to test out. Elevator shoes are designed with the lift built in so the whole shoe might have a better feel/fit...of course they are more expensive. Most people won't notice elevator boots up to 2.5-3 range, but some might be able to tell. Once over 3 inch, they might start looking a bit thicker or different looking to more people.]
Simone said on 1/Feb/16
@Rob : Hi Rob I buyed this kind of boots and it looks like they can hide the lifts pretty well...but I think I can't use this lifts on summer. Are there some boots I can use on summer too? How would you guess me in this pic? I'm next to a chevrolet spark ( 152cm tall ). Click Here Thank you for all the help and I hope for your reply
[Editor Rob: I'm not sure about summer boots. Hiking style boots can also hide lifts quite well, and some type of Supra high tops sneakers. In the photo you could pass for 177-8cm type man.]
Jedi Master 5' 11" said on 31/Jan/16
@Editor Rob

Surprisingly, wearing the same pants I have now show not that much of a difference, if not better look around the ankle of my boots. The pants I bought are two inches too long so I have to return them in the next few days.

Here's another tip for looking taller: Longer neck, slightly taller hairstyle. (Not huge Howard Stern afro, but just about a 1.5" to 2" above your head. No more than 2" off your head.)

When you're getting a trim (a haircut), have your stylist take about 0.5" off the back above your neckline or a full 1" if you're brave. It's a trick I've used before, and it actually raises some people's eyebrows. My father is 5'9-5'10" and whenever he wears a baseball hat, I'm always looking towards the top of his head. It's basically the item placement principle. But keeping your hair off of your shoulders is probably the best idea. Remember this though: the higher you take it off your shoulders, the more you have to bring it up in the top. Also be wary of your where your jawline ends and where the hair begins. This could easily give 1-2 inches in appearance, especially from behind and often can be very intimidating for anyone who notices. No one is gonna tap on your shoulder and ask you if you have a problem when they see your long-arse neck. The idea is to make people LOOK UP. I recommend sticking to 1.25-1.5" hair on the top of your head. I had a friend who spiked it up 3 inches and it just looked like he was overcompensating for something. And when it comes to that, always calculate the difference regarding your face shape and such, so you don't look like you're overcompensating either. (This might not work for black people now that I think about it. I'm thinking from a white man's perspective.) Try to stick with a less blocky or thick hairstyle, and keep the cut short around but more vertical. It's about streamlining, so keep it really short around the sides.

Obviously, the hairline trick isn't as good as standing on stilts but if you combine the two you can easily say you're a certain height as long as you have an inch over it. The best part about the hairline trick is that not everyone knows it. The idea is to keep people looking up. Wear jackets and shirts with interesting collars and streamline your appearance. In the summer—wear shorter shorts and wear nice sunglasses. People like looking at sunglasses. In the winter—you can get away with a lot more with different kinds of boots and styles.

Obviously this won't work for everyone but if you ask me—I've seen 5' 9" men who can easily pass for 5' 11"- 6' 0". Bones are what make you tall so that's also a major thing. Start slouching in seats. Tall guys do it, and they take up more space because they need more room. Someone who is genuinely 6' 2" will be when barefoot, when someone wears elevators to hit 6' 2" they can be 6' 0" or 6' 1" flat in words. Having a beard won't make a difference, so thinking you're going to grow one and it will make people look up at your beard won't solve your height situation. Bottom line is 6' 1.5" — 6' 2" is where "obviously tall" begins. Many people who claim 6' 1" or 6' 2" are often 6' 2" to 6' 3" in shoes.

The truth is, when you're at 5' 10.5" or more, that's when the average aggregate of people start kinda looking up without you having to try much. You can say you're 6'0" until you becoming a celebrity and celebheights tells the world you're really 5'10.5624 xD. There are more 6' 0" guys in sports leagues because many of them are really 5'11" and just add that extra inch.


The Jedi Code: (How to effectively make yourself look taller—and feel free to add more ideas if you have any—I'll start a forum or a blog in the near future if the ideas are good or anyone feels like chiming in. (I hope It's okay if I share this here Rob? Just my 2 cents))

1. Get 3 inch boots a full size larger to streamline foot to ankle ratio, and make sure the right pants hug the boot shaft. Walk with your head 25 degrees above parallel and get used to walking in the boots—good for your calf muscles but your feet might hurt depending on the shoe. ( + 2.5"—3" increase )

2. Get back hairline shortened / elongate your neck. Raise hairstyle a bit and keep it short on the sides and in the front, and even on the top. ( + 0.5"—1" increase if it stays in place lol +1 Notice)

3. Wear interesting shirts that streamline appearance. If you're a skinny person, make sure the clothes hug your body. If you have a skinny frame, you can easily pass for a taller person if you're average height. If you're a fan of long sleeve shirts, these can help provide a ''lankier'' appearance over a stubby one. You get man points if you wear a long-sleeve henley. (+1 Lankiness +1 Redirection of Other People's Eyes +4 Man points)

4. See #1, for pants or jeans try something that hugs your waist and legs. I'm not telling you to get skinny jeans, but rather something along the lines of a slim fit or a boot cut. If you're wearing a long sleeve white henley, wearing a darker color jean with a slightly brighter or darker boot will look streamlined.

5. If you can hit 5'11", chances are you can get away with saying you're 6 feet tall. So many 5' 11" guys do it because it's only an inch away from being even and 'i'm five eleven' can be a mouthful for some versus saying I'm 'six foot'. The guy who plays Captain America has a
5'11" build, but no one complains when he says he's 6'0". Your build can say a lot about you, pay attention to it when it opens its mouth and then feed it lies and false hope. (I think we're going more in the Sith direction here)

6. Hang from a pull up bar for however long you feel it takes to decompress your spine. Do it before you go to bed. (+ 0.5")

7. Go to sleep an hour early and wake up an hour later. Sleep without a pillow. ( + Whatever inch you lost during the day is restored the next morning)

8. Avoid going to hospitals as much as you possibly can, unless you're tall or actually in bad health. The majority of the male doctors there are over 6 feet. (This isn't a joke lol, I've been back and forth to the hospital for relatives over the last few years, so I can attest to this. If you google 'why doctors are so tall' you wouldn't be surprised at why I made this claim here. )

9. Hang out with your short friends more than you do with your tall friends.

10. If you feel like going out during the weekend, then it's optimal for you to be at your tallest. Sleep in during the day or go to bed at the crack of dawn and wake up at 5 PM, put your boots on, comb your hair and go out and use the force and kick some stormtrooper ass

lol, i was bored there you go
Editor Rob said on 31/Jan/16
Jedi,

I do recommend also sticking with between 2-3 inch types of elevators.

I think RobV seems to have spent years wearing bigger elevators so has probably tried various types of trousers/jeans with them.

Personally, the more that is covered, the less people would notice anything suspcious, even if that.

That mine mean considering bigger hem widths.
Jedi Master 5'11" said on 29/Jan/16
Hey Rob. I just received my first pair of elevators today. I'm the Seemingly Tall guy from down below in the earlier comments. I should probably stick to a name but I wanted to come in with an obvious approach. I want to regale you all with a little tale from the market. I as a young lad, have never been told that I was tall or been asked to reach something on the top shelf before. I'm turning 21 this year, so I'm still a young lad to many. Well, I was wearing some typical top-sider shoes with a small 1 inch insole in them. It boosted me up from my 5'11" height to around 6' 0.5". Anyway, I already said all of that below in the comments from before. An older lady told me that I was tall and asked me to reach something off the top shelf. This was the first time in my entire life that someone has said that and asked that of me. I had no idea that it would come from boosting myself by a half inch though. Now I want to be taller, but I don't need to be 6' 5".

It's really cool how well made these boots are. I showed my dad, who inspected them, felt his hand around inside the shoe and I was surprised that he was fooled into thinking they were "JUST BOOTS!" LMAO! Supposedly they were supposed to add 3 inches to my height too. I put them on, and they're tough to walk in. I told my dad that, and he said "well yeah, they're boots you have to break them in." Again, fooled. I'm thinking about buying another pair now.

I measured my height in these. I'm roughly in the 6' 1.75", 6' 1.5", barely 6 '2", range with these awesome boots on. (Probably 6' 2" at the very peak of my morning. I might invest in a stadiometer at some point) I thought it would be a good idea to buy longer pants but I didn't take into consideration how long they would actually be. So I have to get them hemmed down an inch and a half. I went two inches up—bad idea. I want more. I feel like Bruce Wayne in these. According to all of the men's internet forums 5'11-6'2 is the sweet spot for where most men want to be.

So anyway, my recommendation for elevator boots is get 3 inches max. No enormous 5 or 4 inchers. Buy insoles if you want that extra inch. I have some and I'm not sure if I'm going to wear them with these though. If I do, I'll definitely be pushing 6'3", allowing me to say Hi, I'm 6'2". But it's not really worth the extra effort if I'm already taller than average. In fact, it would have been in my better interest not to even buy these. The average height in the USA for men is approximately between 5'8.5" and 5'9". And around the world, 5'7" but from a man's perspective, 6'0"-6'1" is ideal. And with these, I can probably say I'm 6' 1" and get away with it. So if you're 5'7" and are considering buying some elevator boots you're making a good investment. 5'11-5'10 is great and above average is where you want to be. Don't get anything over 3 inches though, as it's really obvious and can really get you rekt. Just buy an insole if you want to get another inch out of it.

These are the ones I bought.

Click Here

If you look in the review section, there's a girl saying she bought them for her 5' 10.5" boyfriend and that she's 6' 1", and he's taller than her with them on. That isn't me, but I bought the same exact shoe and size and I'm roughly around that same height. She isn't lying, that's all I can say. I recommend buying a size bigger. Always. The longer your feet look, the less of an elevator shoe it looks like as long as your pants blend in well. I made the mistake of getting a pant with an inseam 2 inches longer, so I have to get them hemmed down a bit so they hug the ankle. The shoes add about 2.5-3 inches. Guys if you want to be taller, get a good 10 hour rest Your height fluctuates between a full inch throughout the day. And if you ask me, I think sleeping late into the weekends will benefit you if you go out on a Saturday. Wake up, shower, and go straight to happy hour. You have that full inch + your boots and you're already well advertised. Sleep without a pillow if you have some higher power promising you that it will work. Straighter back, better posture.

I'd be careful when it's time to take them off and you have "company" over. Avoid talking to women who are eye level with you flat. Personally, I like tall, long legged girls but for anyone who isn't at least eye level with them, stick with the average and below girls if you're not so far from that yourself. Unless you're really open about this ''elevator'' secret. You'd be surprised at how many girls can't actually tell the difference when you take your shoes off. 2 inches is very easy to convince, but 3 might be obvious enough for her to be a jerk about it and leave. 4 inches is basically a deathwish and 5 inches is a Randy Orton RKO. But of course, if the chick doesn't care she's cool. There are alot of girls who really don't give a derp about height but still fantasize about what they would see as an ideal man. I'd say at this point about 60-70% of the male population have invested in some sort of extra heel for their shoes and if you haven't, it's about time to get on the bandwagon. If you know how to streamline it, that's even better. The illusion of longer legs and flatter /longer feet = looking taller proportionally. What do you think Rob? What's your best advice on streamlining this kind of fashion to make these sorts of items less "clunkier" or "baggier" looking?
Simone said on 27/Jan/16
@Rob : Hi Rob, how tall do you think Am I with no lifts? here: Click Here and here with shoe lifts: Click Here Rob,,,it's so important because I want to know if my lifts are noticeable. Thank you so much.
[Editor Rob: proportionally you could pass for around 5ft 7 without shoes in that one photo. I would say the vast majority of people won't ever even think of the idea of lifts, let alone examine your boots. Only thing is if the trousers/jeans don't cover the boot then the thicker angle might seem slightly strange to a very small minority of people.]
Yeah right. said on 25/Jan/16
Taller people can get away with wearing elevators as it just makes them taller, and its easy to spot someone shorter wearing them if you have a trained eye like Rob I bet. Have you ever noticed someone wearing 3 inch increase before? is it easy to spot? or are like 4-5 inches the ones that are the obvious ones? I imagine in 3 inch boots it would be right on the edge of spotting. but for something like 3.8 inches or what have ye, it would be really obvious. I think 3 inches is the cut off limit for dress or stylish elevators, and then when it comes to boots there really isn't a limit until it looks like you're standing on the opening of the shoe lol
Seemingly tall said on 22/Jan/16
What does Russel Brand wear? He always seems to have some sort of heel on when he's out and about. Roughly between the 2-3 inches I'd bed
[Editor Rob: I'm not sure it's quite that much, but at times maybe near 2 inch style of boots]
Seemingly tall said on 22/Jan/16
See, one day I was 5'10.5" and my mother looked at me and thought I was 6'0". This is coming from a 5'3-5'4 woman. I gained maybe a half inch since, finishing growing at 5'11" maybe. I'm turning 21 this year so I'm counting for maybe another inch unless I have one of those sub-20's growth spurts that people tend to purport. Typically any shoe that I wear gives me maybe an inch minimum. So saying I'm 5'11.5", 5'11" is about the fairest I've been, or the closest I've been to 6'0". So I bought some insoles to place in my top siders. It was hard to get used to, and is a pain in the ass to hide. I'm surprised that no one has ever found out, but then again no one is looking into people's shoes. So with those, I reach about 6'0", 6'0.5", maybe 6'1" if you consider hairstyle and posture and other nonsense, clothes and other crap. Using that, standing around a teacher of mine and the subject of height came up, and he said that he was six feet flat and said that I looked taller. Now I have myself thinking I'm 6'1", even though I'm not. At the end of the day, when the shoes come off, I'm your typical, textbook 5'11 guy.

So I'm considering purchasing some shoes like this to become a giant. Just to try them out and see if I can handle it, and if I can, I'll keep wearing them. I would avoid purchasing any shoe with a visible heel bigger than 1 1/4th inch because it's not exactly inconspicuous from what I've noticed. Longer pants can't hide everything either, but they can do the trick if you match the length added, and have the pant flow properly into the break. But like I said, longer pants can't hide everything and this won't work all the time. Thankfully my legs are long. It's about a natural look, not an Iron Man Repulsor boot. I think the most I'll go for in an elevator shoe if I ever cave and get one is a 3 inch height increase. Nothing over. The visible heel is 1 1/4th inch maximum. This would put me around 6'2", and like Rob says it wouldn't be the exact I would LOVE to be 6'2", like my grandfather. I read on his army dossier that he was 5'11" or 71 inches tall at 19 years of age, and he was about 3 inches taller during my father's wedding and maybe an inch shorter later when he died, because of the whole 'we lose height when we age' thing—compression of the spine in old age and other old-people stuff. But the shoes would show me out as a 6'1.25"-6'1.5" flat guy with the right pant combination. Could be painful, but worth it if you're always on the prowl or just really tired of being shorter than the aggregate of the people you work, study, and socialize with. It helps with other people's subconscious impressions of you. I say, men should wear heeled shoes if they choose to. Know your limits though and don't dress like a woman unless you plan on going all the way. (Implants, organ replacement, etc.)

Also, if a partner asks why you have insoles, just tell her they're to correct your scoliosis problem and that they help align your back correctly. Best excuse in the book. Always works unless she has scoliosis too and knows you're full of ****.
Smith said on 18/Jan/16
I will be living with some friends who do not know about my insecurities with height. If you peer into one of Don's shoes, will it be obvious from the inside that they are elevator shoes?
[Editor Rob: in some cases like sneakers or low-cut shoes yes, in other cases like boots it might be harder to tell. ]
RobV said on 15/Jan/16
@ Tim Yes I have the GuidoMaggi 4" Ischia and 5" Shanghai. I don't post photographs of myself online anywhere for the simple reason that the idea about elevators is that no-one notices. One slight and tiny slip and you can find that someone somewhere spots it. I have had well over 15 years of no-one ever noticing that I add height - it's not something I want to take a risk over just to post shots online.

As I have said often, no-one has ever noticed and is unlikely to with fairly standard styles. I would never take a risk with boots that were obviously very different or quirky/style statements - they could easily be found online if they were that different (people might even say "wow like the boots' and try to locate them. That's why for years all I did was add height through lifts to standard boots/shoes/trainers.
Johno said on 12/Jan/16
I am not lift wearer but a pair of these shoes might come in handy on special occasions such as weddings and parties, nothing extreme but something in the order of 2-inches or 2.5-inches.
Johno said on 12/Jan/16
This is what a difference of 3.5 inches looks like.
Smith said on 11/Jan/16
Hi Rob. I'm 5'7.5 at night. If I purchased shoes that are advertised as 2.5", will I look 5'10 to people?
[Editor Rob: unfortunately not. On average people might have 0.75-1 inch footwear, so when you are in your shoes you would appear more like a 5ft 9-9.25 guy in public. If you had great posture though you may well appear 5ft 9.5 to most people in those shoes though...]
Luke Simp said on 10/Jan/16
are any of the 2inch dons noticeable with skinny jeans?
[Editor Rob: most people won't even notice...a few might give it a passing glance and think it appears thicker, but I doubt it really, especially 2-inch styles.]
Luke Simp said on 9/Jan/16
Rob, How large are the back of Zayn's heels here? Click Here
[Editor Rob: it's pretty thick, got to be pretty close to the 2 inch mark.]
josh said on 9/Jan/16
Hey Rob I'm thinking about buying the slender monk don's shoes that have mid-sole tech 3.1". How much actual height do u think it gives? And do you think it would be noticeable/uncomfortable? Click Here
[Editor Rob: I'd expect it a fraction under 3 inches. Even with midsole tech, there is still a little angle to the point of the lift where your ankle bone is...the bigger the lift the more the angle. If you have a 2 inch shoe, the midsole lift might mean you get very close to the 2 inch because the angle doesn't need to be as high. Personally if I was going for that shoe I'd stick with 2.5 at most. I think jumping in at 3 inch range is a lot, I've known some people who bought big and ended up frustrated and not wearing them. It was too much of an increase to get used to. Go in at 2-2.5 and you might find the boost is decent and getting used to the higher angle is easier than coming in at 3 inch.]
CODY said on 8/Jan/16
Hello rob, how many inches will i gain from barefoot if I purchase the 2 inch Vans from dons?
[Editor Rob: I've not measured them, but I would expect a little under 2 inches]
Luke Simp said on 8/Jan/16
Rob In your opinion, don't you think buying insole lifts are better than heel lifts? such as these here:Click Here i feel like they would give closer to the advertised height than heel lifts, and would be much more comfortable. You could also Super-glue them to the sole of the shoe, to make them unnoticeable
[Editor Rob: they still give a big fraction less than advertised because of the angle of the lift...but ones like that are ok to use. ]
Tim said on 6/Jan/16
RobV, I noticed you claim to have 5 and 4 inch dons and Guadomaggi. I was hoping if you could post a picture of you wearing your elevator shoes to see how they look. I would appreciate it very much.
Luke Simp said on 6/Jan/16
Thanks for the response Rob. How much would I be given ? I contacted Dons's and asked if they could include the midsole tech for the shoes that I mentioned and they said sure. So without the midsole tech how much approx height would I be gaining, compared to with the midsole tech? Im thinking 1.6 inches without mid sole, and with mid-sole, around 1.9? Would these estimations be correct?
[Editor Rob: around 0.2-0.3 might be the difference, but the lower the overall height, the less difference it will make. A midsole tech on a 3 inch boot vs original model may well get 1/3rd inch difference. I'd always look at various elevators before deciding. They are expensive and nobody wants to buy an item they end up wearing a few times and then binning out of frustration, which can happen the higher a boot/shoe you try to start off with.]
SportsHeight said on 4/Jan/16
Rob, if a celebrity was very meticulous and convincing with their lift-wearing, how much taller could they realistically fool you, the height expert, into thinking they were? No more than an inch or two, I assume?
[Editor Rob: probably about an inch, once you get over that the shoes bulge more noticeably.]
Luke Simp said on 2/Jan/16
Dear Rob, I am thinking about buying some casual dons shoes, ralph, samba and vans. I noticed that none of them have the Mid-Sole tech. As I have never bought a pair of elevators, could you please explain the difference between midsole elevators and elevators that do not have midsole tech. Are they comfortable? Can you run around in them? Also, I am looking to buy the 2" models for each of the three. How much height would they give me ? Luke
[Editor Rob: many lifts are designed with a slope from the heel to the toe. A lot of elevator shoes use that form with their internal lifts. The midsole tech basically means there is less slope from the back through the ankle area. It is more built up meaning you can gain a little bit more height. Generally speaking the lower the elevator the closer to the actual advertised height you may get out of them. ]
Jeremiah said on 31/Dec/15
Man.. It sucks beeing a manlet. I'm 172cm (I guess that's 5 ft 8 inches?) and it's like we smaller guys got something to prove. I mean we have pretty much everything proportial, it's not like shorter guys have smaller penises or something(statistically taller guys have a chance of beeing bigger down there, but I'm blessed), however I hate my height. I'm thinking of using some elevator shoes or hell knows what I'm gonna do. I'm 20 years old and I want find an attractive girl who's around 5'6" but I guess I don't have big chances. What's your opinion Rob? Should I use some 1 inch sneakers and put something inside them aswell(like Bieber does)because I don't want it look awkward. I'm srs...
[Editor Rob: most good women won't bother about your height. The kind who will be around a long time will be far more interested in your personality, how you treat others etc.]
Donthateme said on 31/Dec/15
Is it wrong that I want elevator shoes even though I'm 6'5"?
RobV said on 24/Dec/15
@ Powerhouse I don't really understand your post. You say that your d'Etnas have a 2" heel but I have 2 pairs, one with about an inch, the second with a tiny bit more. I have 4" elevators from Dons and GuidoMaggi and I gain 3" without any additional lift and 4" when I add an inch of lifts. My Adidas trainers without lifts have what amounts to a 1" 'heel' as do other non-elevator workboots. All footwear has a certain amount of heel, without it they would look odd.
FatehL said on 22/Dec/15
A follow up to your response Rob, the shoes which I had mentioned I was interested in purchasing in my previous comment, if I buy the 2inch versions of each, how much height increase would I gain? Around 1.7-1.8 ish? Also, is it 2inch from bare foot, or 2inch extra height from a normal pair of shoes.
[Editor Rob: Dons has changed their insoles a bit. The slope from the back to the front follows more of the actual foot shape so the shoes that are called 2 inches might give a bit under 2, but nothing major.]
FatehL said on 22/Dec/15
Hey Rob, I am extremely interested in purchasing a few shoes from Don's. I am looking to buy a few chelsea style boots, samba, ralph lauren, and vans. I measure at 5'7 1/2 barefoot in evening, and want to add around 1.5 inches of height. I am aware of the fact that buying 1.5 inch shoes may only give 1.2/1.3 inches, so I might end up buying the 2inch shoes for, to gain 1.6/1.7 inches. However, i absolute hate wearing boot cut or loose trousers, and will still wear skinny jeans, not extreme skinny, but something along the lines of what Justin Bieber wears or the one direction fellas. I really dont want the shoes to be noticeable, and will ask Dons. to make the heel as small as possible, and give the majority of the height by insole tech. Do you think with my style of clothing, the shoes will be noticeable? thank you very much Rob
[Editor Rob: the ones like the Samba's actually do give close to the 1.5 they are advertised...from the outside they really just look normal samba style, nothing big or anything. It's the kind of level I think anybody thinking of elevators should maybe consider at first. If I was going to consider wearing elevators, the lower style I would go with, those in 1.5-2 inch and get my body used to the extra height. Then maybe after a while I'd go for a 2-2.5 inch style if I wanted a bigger boost, and it would be easier to adjust. I know some people jump in and buy 3 inchers and it is a big step to take...some might give up on them and feel they wasted money!]
SportsHeight said on 21/Dec/15
Rob, are you aware of any elevator cowboy boots? They seem like a good type of shoe for someone trying to get a little extra boost without anyone noticing, as they are already associated with adding height. Thus, no one would bat an eye if the heels looked particularly large. Have you ever heard of a cowboy boot adding 2.5+ inches?
[Editor Rob: there are definitely cowboy boots giving 2 inches range of actual heel height. If you get a half-1 inch lift inside, that's a healthy boost overall.]
Arthur said on 18/Dec/15
Rob what is the maximum height we can get with shoes lifts ? Not with elevators.
[Editor Rob: once you get to 2 inches that is a very high angle inside the boot. Maybe 2.5-3 is a kind of limit before the angle becomes too much]
Powerhouse said on 17/Dec/15
I've always kind thought of lifts and elevator shoes as being for insecure people. I avoided them, but than i got curious and thought lets get one pair if i like them cool, if not thats cool also. So I got the D'ETNA's from Don's and ordered a 4 inch height increase (because i figured no matter what it'd be less than the claimed boost). I got em they were good quality, but i stand 5'7.5 and these boost me to a hair over 5'10 shy of 5'10.25 (with a soft gel insert i put in) which would've been fine but the heel on the boot is 2 INCHES! Its a 2 inch heel with an insert that doesn't even give .75 of a inch. That's not cool at all. I rarely ever wear them and it cost over 300$.
Max said on 15/Dec/15
I am seriously thinking about buying a pair of dons, but what height should I choose to get so can gain a FULL three inches? how much would the 4 inch actually give?
[Editor Rob: to get that high you really need a boot...but I wouldn't recommend trying to go that high to begin with. Get used to a 2-2.3 inch style because they aren't for everybody. No point buying a 3.5 inch boot (to get near 3 inches) and finding it just too high to walk in. Get used to a 2 inch boot maybe.]
Arthur said on 14/Dec/15
Rob do you agree with me that boots with smoother insoles and heels like cat colorado are more easy walk with ıf we put lifts in them? For example walking is hard when I put lifts in a big heeled logger boot because ıt has a harder heel material and a more hard insole.(I dont wear any lifts or elevator shoes in my daily life but I sometimes try things about height at home because I find height an interesting subject.)More comfortable the shoe and heel more comfortable to put lifts in!Do you agree with me ?
[Editor Rob: many boots already have a good amount of heel, so another half inch might be an easy way to boost nearly 1.75-2 inch range. Just maybe need to loosen the lace are a little so it doesn't become too tight if you put a 1 inch lift in them.]
Smith said on 13/Dec/15
@Max Isn't that a good think though? It's as if your height with lifts has become your new height. Just another question but when I tried lifts I felt them to be very uncomfortable and I was unable to walk properly despite using for 2 weeks. How should I use them so that I prevent that?
[Editor Rob: sometimes buying lifts on their own might not be the best option. An elevator shoe with the lift carefully moulded and built within it might be the better option. Albeit, that is more expensive!]
Riley said on 7/Dec/15
Hi Rob. Do you thin I can perhaps get away with adding 2.5" of insert into these boots Click Here I was hoping to buy these boots for suit so the pants could be quite long in order to hide most of the boot
RobV said on 5/Dec/15
@Max. Yes it is strange that after a very short while, and once you are used to wearing elevators, you do get both incredibly used to your new height and also to regard it as the norm. I have said elsewhere that I still wear lifts in some things like sneakers/trainers (and I am almost always aware of wearing lifts, it's not a major issue but you are just aware of them), but mostly now I wear elevators and i just totally forget that my height is due to them - in part I think it is the comfort factor, which is not so easy with lifts. But I think as well you have to be really comfortable with the style that you have bought. I always say to people don't go straight for 5" elevators (unless, perversely you are like me very tall and wanna be really really tall!), and don't go for anything too 'statement'. Classic and flat, specially in summer - in winter in the colder places you can get away with the bigger lift heavier workboot styles.
Max said on 4/Dec/15
Something strange that I noticed when wearing lifts, the first week you wear them you "feel" taller, but the more you wear them the more you get used to them, and when you get used to them it feels like you're not wearing lifts anymore and it creates an illusion in your head that you're not taller anymore because you can't feel the lifts since you're used to wearing them...just a strong feeling.
RobV said on 30/Nov/15
@ Max on 2" lifts For way over a decade I wore just lifts (not elevators) and regularly got over 2" of added height. But only in certain types of footwear - and if you want to stay fashionable that can suddenly get limited by new trends. Right now, it's really about heavier bigger boots and hi top trainers if you want to get that level of added height. Always bought in at least one size (and for me, two sizes) larger than I would normally wear.

The PLUS of using lifts is that you can put them into stuff that you just buy in the store, current trends and brands, and they are not special elevators (which in the past were really limiting). But it is for me THREE inches that used to be the very difficult to achieve, not 2 inches.

Over the past two years, with the exception of my trainers (I still wear certain brand trainers with loads of lifts) I have almost always used elevators from firms like GuidoMaggi and Don's. I am not sure there are any others I would go for right now, but I always keep my eyes open. Until these two firms came up, really there was NOTHING on the market at all. I have always found the cheaper far east products really old fashioned and old mannish. And in the past they also came only in small sizes. But it is worth keeping your eyes open because stuff like this can change in an instant and you carry on not realising what's available.
LeLe said on 30/Nov/15
Hey Rob, are you wearing the actual 2.5 inchers in that pic or something higher? Thanks.
[Editor Rob: the top photo are Dons Bergamo that give actual height 2.3, I think Dons had called them 2.5. The bottom one is the bigger Dons that give in the 3.8 inches of actual height range. Those are much harder to walk about on a daily basis without a lot of practice. Stuff like 2-2.5 inches is much easier to get used to walking in.]
Smith said on 28/Nov/15
I'm curious but what is your opinion on wearing 2.5 inch shoes from Don's on a daily basis? I am mostly worried about the physical "side effects" of wearing heightened shoes if any.
[Editor Rob: many women wear far more uncomfortable heels on a daily basis. Elevators in 2-2.5 range are designed to be comfortable for day to day wear. I think the 2.5 styles are a good choice for a noticeable boost in your height in public...the insoles are quite comfortable. But I do think to get to the stage of daily wear you still need to spend maybe a month building up...sometimes wear them to the shops or an hour a day the first week and each week maybe on more occasions so you get used to the slightly altered walk that the higher foot angle means you have. ]
Max said on 27/Nov/15
Are there any lift inserts that actually give a full two inches of height? Most of the lifts compress significantly when you have them on, and get nowhere near the two inch height that they claim. Even though lift kits are really expensive, they have more of a less angle than the cheaper lifts, but I'm not sure even they give the full two inches.
[Editor Rob: not really lifts that give that much, they really need to be custom built into a boot to get that much.]
RobV said on 22/Nov/15
@ Chuck O on whether wearing lifts regularly has side effects. Well I have been doing so for 15/16 years, and much higher than the amounts you are talking about, and I have had no effects at all. I think people overdo this idea of the effects of wearing lifts/elevators and even heels, because the odd media report sensationalises some basically unscientific research (the media wants sensation not facts) and before you know where you are. plain bad info becomes "fact, I read it online". Once on here some time ago, I asked others to give me proof of some other unscientific assertions...and their 'proof' was all website comments. "Anon" saying how his mate "lost both legs after wearing lifts once", which is "statistical proof that they are not good for you".

My mother is a scientific researcher and she says that one of the interesting things that has emerged over the past 30 years is that people almost want there to be something wrong with anything that you either like to do or feel a bit guilty about doing - and I guess adding secret height must be one such thing! So it is easy to get people to believe bad things about doing it. Which is why so much effort goes into telling you how bad almost everything you like is - but then it all fades to the next fad. Which is why in many countries that ultimate baddie butter is now on the rise because the old research was shoddy and reported in extremis.
RobV said on 22/Nov/15
@ Nick - you ask 'can you wear 3" insoles and still look fashionable?' adding 3" with insoles/lifts into standard shoes/boots is a lot and is very difficult to do even when looking NOT fashionable! I know because for 15 years i wore lifts and insoles constantly before using elevators more often. The issue of fashion with footwear and height addition arises basically with trends and what is in and not in. When very wide flares were in in the Uk a decade+ back, I wore a huge amount of lift in low chelsea type boots (bought in a larger size than my real size) with the flare sat over the boot, and got away with 3"+ easily. But with skinnies and slimmer cut jeans it's way more difficult which is why I have turned to elevators more often (but I still wear lifts in my trainers). If ever you need advice, please feel free to contact me on robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk.

I think you are restricted to winter workwear type boots and high top traIners frankly - get stuff that is very fashionable and clearly a trendy brand, buy it in 2 sizes larger than your own and you will get to the 2". But you have to first also decide what sort of jeans/pants you wanna wear.
Ace56 said on 22/Nov/15
I've been wearing 3.1" elevator shoes. I'm thinking of getting a pair of dons or guidomaggi that are 4" but I'm worried they'll be too noticeable. Rob, in your opinion are 4" elevator shoes too noticeable. And if possible can you recommend me a pair if they're not. Thank you.
[Editor Rob: personally I would start smaller and go for something that is advertised as 2.5 or even 2. That is still going to give you a decent boost but you will find wearing a 2-2.5 easier than trying to get used to a 3. the higher you go, the more someone might take note...but most people are so preoccupied with themselves, that you'd find only a small percentage will actually comment on them. I don't believe guidomaggi use the 'midsole tech', so your 4 inch guido might give the same as a 3-inch dons with the newer type of insole (that has more height and doesn't slope as much at the ankle point).]
Sean5 said on 19/Nov/15
Hiya Rob, I'm going to a wedding in a few months, If I wore a black suit and the d'etna shoes in the above photo but in black would it be okay? just unsure if I'll be allowed to wear them
[Editor Rob: who would stop you wearing them? I think if you bought a 2.5 style it would be fine, but you'd need to have your trousers an inch or so longer than usual.]
Nick said on 15/Nov/15
I've been wearing about 3 inches of insoles in a pair of high top sneakers for like a half a year now. My question is, Can you wear 3 inch insoles and still look fashionable? If so, what type of footwear would you recommend that permits me to be able to use the 3" insoles and still wear decent pair of pants.
Chuck O said on 8/Nov/15
What is ,if any side effects to useing 1"-2" lift. Can I still where flat Sneakers or shoes? Like bad arches?
[Editor Rob: personally I can't say, but there are many people who wear lifts long-term...it's not as bad as high heels though because they don't raise you up as much and have flat soles so the foot/ankle/ligaments aren't put under as much strain as high heels can do to a women.]
ebo said on 6/Nov/15
Click Here Rob these shoes claim they add 5'5 inches in height? how much would you say this would add to someone's height?
[Editor Rob: 3.5 might be possible]
RobV said on 1/Nov/15
PS my caveat on standard type suit wearers being able to 'buy any of the 4" boots' to wear with a suit is to 'buy any EXCEPT those with the chunkier workwear sole'. Some of the workwear soles come in heights lower than 5" andn they are best avoided if you are a 'standard type suit wearer'!
RobV said on 30/Oct/15
@ Todd You ask about elevators giving 3"+, and suitable for wearing with a suit. I am someone who has worn lifts and elevators daily for over 15 years and can tell you that that is the kinda cut-off point for AVERAGE type of suit wearers. In many careers in, say London or in other European cities, you are freer to wear stuff that might give you more leeway in a suit (provide that the style was in fashion of course), but for your average standard suit wearer in an office, then anything advertised as more than 4" (the 4" elevators give you about 3" real height addition) will have too thick/chunky a sole for most situations.

18 months ago I bought the GuidoMaggi 5" Shanghais, which have a v chunky workwear type sole, and for my own particular work - I run clubs - I can get away with wearing them in all situations. But I would feel uneasy about wearing them if I had to wear a standard suit. I recently bought some 4" Ischias from GuidoMaggi and they are perfect for such a situation - if you google them, you'll see they have a thinner more shoe-like front part of the sole (vital for a suit imho, unless a chunky Doc style workwear sole is fashionable at the time with a suit). But they are boots so you can easily get the 4" elevator. Even though they are boots, they go with a suit because they basically look like a bit of a hybrid - part boot part shoe, which is very current and has been for some time under a suit - when they are showing under a pair of trousers. I know Don's do boots like this as well.

Any of the 4" boots would do the trick, and as I say, they tend to give about an extra 3" on top of the height you would get from any other pair of boots.
Ben said on 30/Oct/15
What kind of height shoe wouldn't be noticeable in the height
[Editor Rob: a lot of elevator shoes that give 1.5-2 inch range are hard to spot, most people won't be able to tell, especially if your trousers/pants cover a good amount of the shoe. With a boot I think you can get away with it a bit easier than a shoe, because the amount of leather you need to get between 2 and 2.5 inches out of a shoe means the shoe itself starts to look quite big and I think more people would think it looked a little funnier...that's if they see it, as I said, if you aint' wearing skinny jeans your trouser/jeans should be able to cover a lot of the height the shoe gives.]
Todd said on 28/Oct/15
Hi, do you have any recommendations for elevator boots from Guidomaggi or Don's that give 3 inches or more of height but also go well with a suit?
[Editor Rob: if you get a suit that is 2 inches longer than your normal trousers but with a slightly wider width then really you could choose from any of the classic models like the dons bergamo, terni aren't boots but they do have big versions that basically start to look like a boot because of the size of lift inside. Actual boot versions like di vico versions or colleta I think are the type I'd look at. For Guido it is worth checking out their Instagram page as they do show men with suits and how they look.]
Carl said on 23/Oct/15
Rob, how much height increase do you think the biggest 5 inch boots from Dons really give (like D'Etna) Really 5 inches increase from barefoot height or a little bit less?
[Editor Rob: if you measure the highest point at the back (highest point of lift), you are never going to get that much because the foot pivots at the ankle. ]
cf said on 17/Oct/15
Rob, do you think that it would be insecure on the part of a man who isn't short but average height to want to be at least a couple inches taller? In other words, for my whole adult life I wanted to be 6'0" barefoot but am only 5'10" barefoot after standing for 8 hours. It's only been in the last maybe 15 years that I didn't feel the need to stretch the truth about my height and actually don't mind my height now.In your opinion, is 5'10" a good height for a man?
[Editor Rob: it's a standard average range. There's nothing wrong with having a desire to be taller, but unfortunately for bare-feet height, the option available is limb-lengthening, which rules out nearly everybody. But nobody walks about bare-feet, they are in shoes of various heights. Lifts/elevators are able to alter men's (or women's) perceived height.]
ManKo said on 12/Oct/15
Hi Rob, do you know the "masaltos" and "hiplus" elevator shoes. If so, what do you think about them? They are both from spain, and "masaltos" seens to be very popular on amazon.co.uk.
[Editor Rob: I don't know the quality, but they don't look that bad in photos...expense wise, they are certainly a bit cheaper than some of the other companies like dons or guido maggi.]
182 cm evening height said on 3/Oct/15
Yeah exactly Rob, lifts are better for one-off use while elevators are better for discrete long term use. I just read Dan's comment below and he said that those European Summer shoes made him 3 inches taller. Do you think that's realistic? Because I've seen you mention elsewhere that the advertised lift isn't actually the same as the height boost you get. To be honest, since my 6 ft 0.75" measurement at the doctor's office, I'm not even sure about elevators. I guess I need to try and get measured under a stadiometer again. Do you think the wall stadiometers are even reliable?
[Editor Rob: yeah if they are advertised as 3 inches they won't really give that, although when you put them on you probably think it feels significant, and at 2.3-2.4 inches of actual height gain (from those described in the 3 inch range), that is still a big amount. ]
Carl said on 2/Oct/15
Hey Rob, quick question about elevator shoes. If you buy a big elevator like D'Etna from Dons shoes, should you buy shoes with the same shoe size you wear normally (normal shoes, not elevators)?
[Editor Rob: buy your normal size of shoe when getting an elevator. It's really only if you want to buy cheap lifts like 10 bux and put them in a boot, you might be better with a slightly bigger (1/2 size maybe).]
Dan said on 2/Oct/15
I am a 22 year old student from Switzerland and not a tall man. 5'4" to be exact. And for the most part it doesn't bother me. I mean, I've been short my entire life, kind of used to it by now. I know my short stature hurts me in my personal, dating, and professional life. Short men are seen as less attractive by women. Short men are typically paid less. Etc. I've been debating getting elevator shoes. But I can't get over the feeling that that would be like 'admitting' that I am self-conscious about my height. I've spent years acting like it doesn't bother me, no reason to change that now? On the other hand, everything about the way I dress is designed to increase my attractiveness. Why should my shoes be any different? I had never heard of these shoes until now, so I figured there had to be a way for short men to find out about these things better. Well, for the last two months I've been wearing a pair of Elevator Shoes called Pastellos (donsfootwear.com/pastello) that give me a height increase of 3.1" and for formal dinners i've worn the "European Summer 2" (donsfootwear.com/european-summer-2) a nice dress shoe. I love it. They make me 3" taller. That's over 7cm increased height! I can feel it; the world and other people just look slightly smaller from a few inches taller and I feel much more like I have a gameface on. This must be the feeling women get from wearing makeup. The best part is that the effect doesn't go away when I tell other people. It's pretty hard to tell just from looking at the shoes how much taller they make you. The sites are very big on being discreet, like wearing taller shoes is your deepest darkest secret, but I've showed everybody whenever I get compliments on the shoes (which is all the time) and everybody thinks the effect is cool, not shameful. As for the shoes themselves, they are both from the same company Donsfootwear.com (check this site out) and they both fit well, are comfortable and well made since they are handmade. Also the shoes themselves look classy as F' and I'd wear them even when they weren't Elevator Shoes. I just thought to share my experiences with the Elevator Shoes since I'm really happy with the impact they had on me and my life. So what are your experiences with elevator shoes? :))
[Editor Rob: that's the thing, they have made you feel better. For people who get down or are concerned about their height, what can they realistically do? 99.9999% of people cannot have limb-lengthening due to obvious factors like cost/risk. Grow taller programs? As I showed this year in a video series, con-men and scammers operate these type of programs and use deception to sell the programs, preying on the idea grown men can gain 2-3 inches. What's left? Accept your height, or improve your perceived height through lifts/elevators. Dan, your own perceived height (that which others see you as) has increased to maybe 5ft 6 range (based on say other men on average wearing 0.75-1 inch shoes)...but your outlook/confidence looks like it has improved as well, which also has an effect on how others perceive you. Perceived height can be influenced by your outlook/personality, how you dress and of course the size of your shoes... ]
182 cm evening height said on 28/Sep/15
Thanks for the info, Rob. Yeah, I may decide to buy a pair of elevators but also use lifts elsewhere. Elevators are useful when you want to get a boost from shoes but don't want to wear big boots (to conceal lifts) and don't want your feet slipping out of the shoes. I think I'll buy the shoes I linked earlier. I could wear those with shorts or anything, really, and they would just look casual. I do think I'll be better off with lifts in some cases, though. Like it may be cheaper to get some normal ankle boots a size or two too large and put a lift inside them. In sixth form, I bought a pair of oversized trainers and stuffed them with tissues and a gel insole (lol) and managed to get ~1.8 inches from the trainers without sacrificing comfort.
[Editor Rob: there are some situations where people might only want lifts, and the expense of an elevator shoe is too much. Maybe a job interview or special occasion, a once-off...]
182 cm evening height said on 27/Sep/15
Okay, so I'm looking into Don's. Rob, you mentioned that 2.75" styles add about 2 inches to total height so I figured I might go for something like that. Do you think a 2.75" style could look as discrete as these (Click Here). I'm slightly disappointed that a 2.75" style doesn't actually add 2.75", though, and I may just go with lifts instead. Basically, I'd prefer to add about 1.5 inches to my height without a heel. Do you think lifts are a better way to do this?
[Editor Rob: remember that you want to be able to walk comfortably. With that particular model I think you are better keeping 2.75 or less style, which means actual height might be between 2 and 2.25 inches. That is still a decent increase, between 1-1.5 inches more than an average sneaker or normal shoe will give. Lifts are definitely much cheaper, but they are moveable within a shoe/boot and nowhere near as comfortable as custom-designed elevators, where the internal lift is part of the design....but of course, they are far more expensive. Sometimes it is better to test out some lifts first to see what it feels like.]
Shawn said on 24/Sep/15
Hey Rob, I just wanted to give a big thank you for recommending the Don's shoes, as well as providing the 10% discount through your website. I've purchased two pairs of the 2.5" mid-sole technology, and with the exception of doing something very fast paced (for example, playing a sport), they're very versatile for the most part. Very comfortable, great quality, and they look pretty normal too (not overly bulky or ugly). Thanks Rob.
[Editor Rob: the mid-sole I believe is a subtle improvement over the earlier incarnations. 2.5 is what I'd recommend going with. It's enough to give you about 1.5-1.75 inches more than a typical sneaker or shoe, but not too big that you end up frustrated trying to wear them.]
Josh said on 23/Sep/15
This guy is amazing. I have bought 5 shoes in last 3 years and qualitybis awesome. Little bit hard to get reply back soon but a great guy in making custom leather shoes. I recommend highly. Make sure to be exact in what you want, you might be not happy of dont give him all sizes and requests.
Stev said on 14/Sep/15
I bought the dons midtech sole shoes in a formal brogue, after reading that they feel like wearing normal trainers. I went for the smallest of 2 inches total gain. I must say the shoes are fantastically made, and are of great quality, but the to say they feel like you are wearing normal shoes is pretty ridiculous, the angle of the heel and the bulging feeling in the middle of your feet is very uncomfortable, can't believe that anyone could walk around in those all day, let alone the bigger lifts, I would be them for the quality alone though, superb shoes, just don't think elevators are for me, they feel quite horrible on my feet.
KT said on 10/Sep/15
I think Don's shoes are the best in the market. I wish he continues to push the envelope and make more shoes and boots. I'm extremely impressed.
[Editor Rob: I hadn't put the Dons 'big boots' on for a while, but I wanted to test them again and take another photo. I think you really need to build up to the really big Dons like 4-inch styles. I'd stick with 2-inch shoes or 3-inch at most for a few years as then you will be used and your feet used to the higher angle and the different pressure points that your foot experiences. Jumping straight into a very big boot is not advisable. I wouldn't recommend anybody buying 4-inch boots to begin with...you need the experience of wearing smaller elevators (2-2.5 inch) in daily life to get used to them.]
RobV said on 6/Sep/15
@ DK GuidoMaggi and Don's are basically the two best on the market as far as I am concerned, having bought from both. Both are comfortable and you can find styles which work. Although I think GuidoMaggi have the edge in terms of fashion etc, you can find perfectly good stuff with Don's. For my taste, Bertulli look old fashioned but of course some like that.
DK said on 4/Sep/15
First time poster here. I've bought from Don (wearing 1 and 2 more on the way) and GuidoMaggi. Saw below about Bertulli. Anyone compared Bertulli to Dons or GuidoMaggi? FWIW, Dons seems most comfortable (with the MST) but GuidoMaggi seem to be better leather and construction. Thx
Sean said on 3/Sep/15
Curious question; has anyone ever been to a nightclub wearing shoe lifts/elevators but then get stopped by bouncers for a random security search? If they discovered you had elevators/lifts did they allow you to come in or did they deny you? This hasn't happened to me yet but it is worrying everytime I attempt to get in somewhere.
Editor Rob said on 1/Sep/15
I was speaking to my neighbour the other day and the topic of elevator shoes came up and surprisingly he revealed that one time a few decades ago he too bought a pair of them (Bertulli, from an advert he seen in a magazine). Funny thing is, he was 5ft 10.5, but said he felt a bit self conscious at younger guys towering over him...although he said he only wore them 4 or 5 times before realising they weren't for him.
RobV said on 23/Aug/15
@ Dan Yep you can drive in elevators but you just have to be aware that there is a difference in sensitivity and reach. You just have to learn the difference. Women drive in heels and without, of course.
RobV said on 22/Aug/15
@ Tyler I have bought a pair of solid 5" boots from GuidoMaggi (not trainers) and have found that they tend to give me about the 5" from barefoot. Remember firstly that ALL shoes are elevators really (even if flipflops give you barely half an inch, it is still a lift however small!), so this 5" is not 5" ON TOP OF, say, my normal boots. Some people expect it to be and of course it isn't. Just look on this site at how much normal boots and trainers can give you. From barefoot to wearing the 4" trainers you will probably get in the region of the 4" depending upon how you stand etc. But I have never bought elevator trainers yet (have always bought larger and used lifts), but I might consider them now.

For what it's worth, I think you can measure any pair of elevators from base to the top of the elevator, see that they are exact and tick the box, but then not quite achieve that actual full lift when wearing them. Editor Rob here has mentioned this elsewhere on the site, and the reasons for it, and I agree. It's relatively minor but it is a useful reminder not to expect to measure exactly 4"/5" taller when you wear them. But trust me, you will feel WAY taller in 4" trainers/sneakers.

If you get them, I'd be interested in your experiences. On here preferably, so others can share, but otherwise to me at robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk
Dan said on 22/Aug/15
Do you drive in elevator shoes?
Tyler said on 20/Aug/15
Hey, I wanted your opinion on guidomaggi's sneakers. They say to be able to add 4 inches of height but I don't see those shoes being anywhere near that. What do you think?
[Editor Rob: RobV might be best answering as he has experience of buying some guido's.]
RobV said on 14/Aug/15
@ Editor Rob You ask what trousers I wear with my 5" boots. Yes I do buy longer ones in general, but I have had such a long experience of adding height that you almost kinda forget what your real inseam is and stuff I already have is generally fine! But if I was going that high overnight, for sure. For probably 13-odd years I had been used to adding a certain amount of height (say around 3") solely through lifts and also of course wearing carefully selected workboot styles + lifts which gave the max.

Elevators ARE different and I wear both my GuidoMaggi ones and my Dons a lot. With some I can actually wear skinny jeans and expose the boot and it doesn't look obvious. I wouldn't advise this for most people as you have to really judge it well. With others I can't, and therefore wear slim cut jeans but not overly skinny, otherwise you DO get a bit of that clumpy heel look, which is a big no no.

However, if the boots are well designed and look up to date, classic or very well made, you can get away with a lot more than you can with some poorly made tat which is in a rather dated style.

One thing I would however advise from my own experience. If guys do go for 5" boots which are not very high in the shaft and wear slim or bootcut jeans over the boots, you have to buy longer. I have one pair of jeans that I really love and they look great when I stand up, but when I sit down, they ride up over the tab at the back and that is the worst of all worlds, as all that is exposed is the heel section when you then stand up again. If those pants were even just one inch longer there would be no prob.
Editor Rob said on 14/Aug/15
RobV, what kind of trousers/pants/jeans do you wear with the 5-inch styles? Do you bother trying to get trousers 2-3 inches longer than your normal inseam?
RobV said on 13/Aug/15
@ Don The clip of you wearing the 5" elevators is excellent and there is simply no way that anyone looking on would see anything unusual or detectable. Obviously, watching a piece of film headed up "wearing 5" elevators" can make some viewers think they can tell, but this says nothing other than they are stating what they know to be true as they have been told!

And an interesting point is what you are wearing them with. Which in this case was exactly right - a pair of jeans that cover the top of the boots but not too much so - you don't want some extra long crumpled jeans over the boot as that does not look right either.

I wear both 4" and 5" elevators - yours and GuidoMaggis - and I am surprised when people say on here that they occasionally find it difficult to walk in them. It may however be right (what Editor Rob says) that in fact you have to build up to them - I of course did this in my own way by wearing lifts for over a decade beforehand, adding up to 3" in height all the time. I find the 5" ones very very comfortable to wear and easy to walk in.

Another thing I have often told those on here who want to wear a big lift - before going out wearing them to something specific for the first time, break them in by walking short and then medium distances beforehand - go to the shops wearing them, go to collect something etc, knowing you will be home after a certain time. Not only will you learn how to walk in them, but also you will realise that no-one can tell. That's very important for confidence because elevators are the type of thing where there is little info available, and guys just do not know what to expect. Many think that adding half an inch and the entire world will be pointing and querying. In fact you can add serious height and no-one ever notices. Strange.
RobV said on 13/Aug/15
@ Mike "Has anyone on here bought the 5" GuidoMaggi"? Yep I have. They are great and incredibly comfortable. They are not too 'good to be true', and I wear them a lot in more casual circumstances. I bought the Shanghais. Yes, they have a thick workwear style sole so by and large they are best with really casual stuff. A heavy sole which looks natural when you wear jeans etc can look a bit like you are trying to add height if worn with a suit, so imho if you are looking for something that looks completely flat and suitable for ALL clothes, buy the 4" ones in a size or two bigger and wear a bit of extra lifts if you wanna get to 5" !! I do this as well. But I wear my 5" ones probably most of the time (then I never wear a suit).

For the record I also own the Dons 4" d'Etna which is the same as the 5" in sole type and I do not think it looks any more noticeable. The key every time is what you wear them with. Go flatter in sole for formal, use the chunkier sole for nights out/casual. No-one will ever notice the inch or so difference.

I often advise people on elevators and how to achieve the max for the occasion. If you ever need info, I'm at robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk - I spent 15 years getting to the height I wanted, now always adding 5", and there are loads of tricks that help you to do it undetected.
Mike said on 12/Aug/15
Are Guido Maggi 5 inch boots to good to be true? Compared to Don's 5 inch boots they look a lot less noticeable (expect for the extra chunky heel). Does anyone own a pair of GM 5inch boot here?
Joe257 said on 9/Aug/15
Hi Rob! I'm a man, about 5'7", and I would like to be 2" to 2.5" taller when walking/standing (at the mall)! I sometimes wear 1.5" (male) boots with 0.5" wedges inside of them, which makes me just about 5'9"; but I feel like I need more. What would you recommend, small elevator shoes or a 2-inch heeled boot!? Are there ANY (non-elevators) 2-inch heeled boots that you could recommend for me!? Thanks!
[Editor Rob: there are Logger type boots that can add 2 inches. Many cowboy heels add 2 inches as well. One of the Dons 2.75 styles might be worth looking at, as they will get you over 2 inches of actual height.]
Don said on 8/Aug/15
Hi Rob. Here is some live footage (Pun intended) of a customer of the Don walking in the 5 incher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKIaU8Z9bzk&feature=youtu.be
[Editor Rob: he walked better than me when I first tried to use them. I think it is getting used to very large elevators. If you build up and go from 2 to 3 then eventually more, it might be more easier than suddenly trying to use 4-inch or 5-inchers.]
RobV said on 1/Aug/15
@ Average Height Person You refer to some elevator shoes. One contact from here has bought them, and says they are fine as long as your trousers are really long enough to cover them (and that means with enough width at the trouser bottom to ensure that almost all of the boot is not seen.

I have seen them referred to over the past few years but now that there are better boots on the market, I would save up and buy those rather than these. Just my honest opinion.
Average Height Person said on 30/Jul/15
Anyone tried these Elevator Shoes: XT9964? It claims 5.5 inches but does anyone know what actual gain i will get from these?
RobV said on 26/Jul/15
@ Mike I assume you mean a thick sole rather than a high heel on a Doc. This kinda thing, the men's Jadon, is about the highest, Click Here although I have seen others made to measure or specially done that are thicker. There is a point at which if you are trying to gain height that it is best imho to have a certain amount of sole but the rest of the lift is inside. Try buying a pair of Docs 2 (or 3) sizes larger than your real size and adding height - the extra room allows way more to be added without it being noticed through strain on the upper or by physically limiting you. You would be amazed at how effective that is.
mike said on 22/Jul/15
Hi Rob, I wanted to ask if you know a regular boot like Dr. Marten with a 2 inch heel.
[Editor Rob: some 'logger' type boots can get you near that. Doc and cat boots for women, I've seen some of those with 2-2.3 range heels.]
RobV said on 16/Jul/15
An interesting point raised by someone with elevators is the extra/thicker sole needed to get to the 5" lift. Up to 4" you can get loads of styles with flat normal-type soles, but when you get to 5" it has to come basically through the additional sole. Hence if you look at the 5" boots on Guido Maggi or Dons sites, you will see that all have a thicker pretty chunky workwear type sole, while many of the 4" ones look like normal averagely-soled boots/shoes.

Does this matter, and does it devalue the height extra achieved if you wear the thicker soled boots? One poster mentioned this in passing. I have gone each time for the thicker 5" soles (and added a little more lift of my own within the proper levels of comfort!), and find that these are great with many types of pants/jeans. I bought d'Etnas from Dons and Shanghais from GM.

Some of my contacts from here have taken a slightly different approach (I have posted my e-mail address from time to time if people want advice as I have been adding height for 15 years and never been rumbled).

Two guys who got in touch have bought the thinner soled 4" boots and sacrificed the extra inch (even though they wanted it) because they wanted footwear that looked totally unremarkable in any way for work situations. They feared that a thick workwear sole with work trousers might arouse some sort of comment.

I take this point in a way. I would certainly not want to wear a big thick workwear sole with a very conventional suit (unless it were the fashion at the time, which does happen). I almost never wear a suit so it doesn't arise. But in other situations, I am inclined to agree with the point that many wear big boots anyway (look at the trend for wearing big Doc-type boots with skinnies or slim cut jeans, specially when it gets colder...they look like elevators if you actually think about it, they have big chunky soles etc. That's just the way it is).

The key is to wear what is fitting with what you have. The reason why the Downey Jnrs and Diesels and Stallones look so odd is not that they wear elevators, it's that they seem to wear the specific very heavy styles with all the wrong clothes. Big heavy thick soled elevator boots with suits, the hems sat awkwardly on the top of a big chunk of boot. They would be better wearing the thinner soled ones, and add a bit more lift if they want.
Ron said on 15/Jul/15
Just to add my two cents to elevator shoe experience: I've been using large lifts for a while now to get me from about 5'10.5 to 6'1. I'm used to them, they hurt, but I'm used to them. I splashed out on a pair of Don's D'etnas because I wanted the ease, comfort and extra height I hoped they'd give - and I wanted to look my 6'3 best mate in the eyes so went for the 5.5 inch special order lifts (he teases me all the time about being "short" because he's extremely self conscious that he's stick thin and I'm built like Thor, ironic right that he's now made me chronically self-conscious about my own height?)
They arrived recently and are great - they're well made, fit perfectly, stylish and with beautiful leather and neat stitching. They're also extremely comfortable, I could walk around all day in them! Really, a brillaint investment and I'd recommend all those on the fence go and get a pair. "Don" is also a chuffing nice guy.
Big downside: I got the wrong size lifts - the 4.5inch instead of the 5.5, and with that I can just about reach 6'2 in the boots. This is extremely annoying, but to Don's credit he has sent me a very polite email of apology and he seemed genuinely shocked this could have happened - due to the way he handled the situation I decided to let it slide, honest mistakes happen and no one wins by me agonising over an inch. He also graciously offered me 25% off my next purchase, which I'm not rather sure I'll make use of given how much I've come to rely on my D'etnas.
So - there's my honest experience, if any of you are on the fence here's a solid recommendation! Also be aware though that of course you never get quite the lift the shoe offers and you'll have to be clever in the way you wear the shoes to make the lifts invisible - I for example wear boot-cut jeans with the backs pulled down more to give the illusion that the shoes are completely flat-soled. No one-s noticed yet save one, who I just showed the natural heel too and told him they were just big boots, which seemed to satisfy him completely.
And thanks to Big Rob!
Gx79 said on 2/Jul/15
Rob is this normal I tried something like lifts I felt weird but I'm 6'1.5 tall barfoted I wear shoes that barley give me a 1/2
[Editor Rob: lifts will feel wierd, your foot angle suddenly is becoming much higher than it's used to. They aren't for everybody, if you are finished growing and want to look taller, what options are left? Limb-lengthening or Lifts...]
Gx79 said on 25/Jun/15
I'm 6'1 I tried elevator shoes and hated them
KyleQ said on 24/Jun/15
Is there any boot that isn't elevator shoes that add an inch or more of height and big enough to add lifts to it?
[Editor Rob: that might be pushing it, but some elevators you could probably try to get another cm inside a pair of elevator boots on top of the existing inbuilt lift.]
Dmeyer said on 21/Jun/15
If Jenny is 5'8.25 shoes on you look 4.25in taller 6'0.5 in 184cm
RobV said on 21/Jun/15
There is an increasing number of comments in this section from one-off posters that look a bit suspiciously like ads or self serving comments from those who make the boots! "I bought some from x, they were superb...customer service second to none...buy buy buy now". We do get the picture, and it's OK occasionally, but don't overdo it.
RobV said on 20/Jun/15
@ BobbyG on whether you can wear 5" elevators with skinnies. Well, you CAN but I have generally discovered that the entire bottom part of the outfit has to be all one colour and the same as your pants/jeans (eg, black skinnies and black 5" elevators).

There IS some logic about the completely counter-intuitive. If you look for example at the GuidoMaggi site, you will see the model wearing elevators with loads of pants that show the boots openly (but it doesn't say what lift there is in the boots, vital).

And the recent trend in any event for skinnies and big boots means that you can get away with it in some situations. I look at some shots of guys in skinnies and bog boots, like on TopMan, and think: "are they wearing elevators?"). But you really DO have to know what you are doing. I do it, it looks v good, but I do finesse it v carefully.
Vanners said on 17/Jun/15
I purchased a pair of Don's and were so impressed I've purchased a second pair. He not only produces a top-quality shoe, but he was able to recreate the latest Gucci's very well. Prices are very reasonable and service is great.

My second pair were the mid sole tech. With these, you cannot even tell you're wearing elevator shoes.

Highly recommended.
iam1,82 said on 14/Jun/15
i feel a short men ,i need this shoes.
my dream is get 1,88. i would the most happy guy of the world
Jewel said on 12/Jun/15
So Rob, are you 6ft in the last pic?
[Editor Rob: right around the 6ft mark at that moment, jenny's sneaker isn't much she wasn't that much over the 5ft 8 mark in those sneakers she has on.]
BobbyG said on 9/Jun/15
Hi Rob, real quick question, are don's 5 inch elevator boots noticeable if you wear them with skinny or slim jeans?
[Editor Rob: yes they look quite bulky up close. I feel it's better to have a boot-cut or longer trouser (2-3 inch longer than you normally wear at least)]
BobbyG said on 9/Jun/15
Hey there Rob, do you have any recommendations for elevator shoes that make you 3.5- 4 inches taller?
[Editor Rob: I would start out with 2.75 inch elevator shoes, they should give you roughly 2.3 inches of actual height. Once you are used to those, only then would I say try out the bigger 4 inch styles, it's a big step up...I feel it's best to go low to get used to them...and I only recommend Dons. But another company who look to do decent elevators is the GuidoMaggi's, who some people said were quite well made. Other companies will use cheaper materials, those two are trying to make superior quality elevators that last long and look good.]
Average Height Person said on 7/Jun/15
I am 5 foot 10.5 inches tall. In reply to ''Bryan (Queenslander)'' 179 cm is considered to be 5 foot 10 and half 179cm = 5 foot 10.47 inches which i round to 5 foot 10.5 inches. Anyway one usefull thing i have found with elevator shoes is in the supermaket. In normal shoes i'm somewhere around 5 foot 11, at that height i cannot reach the very top shelf at the supermarket if someone knows what the exact height of the top shelf is let me know but it's really high up there's even a sign on the shelf telling you to ask for staff to get the items.With elevators and a small lift at 6 foot 1 i can reach it quite easily. 2 extra inches of height allowed me to finally reach the very top shelf items. I don't understand why supermarkets need to put items so high up that even someone who is 5 foot 11 can't reach it though i understand they put a sign up saying to ask for staff but still most people won't be bothered.
memenene said on 4/Jun/15
I tested to use insole lifts (2cm) on my dress shoe. But the problem is my feet is "popping" out of the shoes. Is there anyway to solve the problem? Sorry for bad english!
[Editor Rob: unfortunately that's what happens...you need a shoe with a higher bit of leather where your ankle bone sits. Some shoes might have enough height to them that when you put 1 inch lift in, the foot doesn't slip out. That's why I'd always buy an elevator shoe eventually - if you decide to wear lifts to look taller - they already have the ankle section much bigger to make room for the built in lift part.]
Ron said on 2/Jun/15
Rob, do the don's elevator shoes(the 3.8 in ones) look awkward when you wear them? Is it hard to walk in them and does it really look like you are wearing elevator shoes? thanks.
[Editor Rob: I think the ones Don gave me were one of the first models giving almost 4 inches...maybe they are a bit refined. It's certainly more comfortable than a man trying to walk in 4 inch ladies heels, but I believe you would need a week of practice and several weeks of building up the time spent using them to get comfortable enough to walk so it looks as natural as possible. It's a big difference going from say a 2.3 inch elevator to 3.8 inch. The angle becomes very high.]
Recent Happy Buyer said on 31/May/15
I recently bought a pair of Don's MST Classic 513 and it is absolutely top class. I've been a user of lift based shoes for about a year now, and I've tried several brands (Calden, TOTO, Calto etc.) and Don's is absolutely superior to them and very, very comfortable - I specifically recommend those with the "Mid-Sole Technology" because they do make a noticable difference in comfort. They are a bit more on the expensive side, but you gotta trust me when I say this but it is worth every penny, and absolutely customized (can pick leather, colors etc.), and does not feel like some cheap "Made in China" feel that you get from the tallermenshoes website.

One last comment I'd like to make that I feel is seriously underrated is Don's customer service - I needed a pair of shoes within a very short time period before work started in the US and Don personally messaged me and updated me throughout the way regarding progress, and made sure it got here on time (which it amazingly did - I was not expecting this). This level of personal care and service really makes the shoes worth every penny - you will fully realize this when you buy your first pair =)
Bryan (Queenslander) said on 30/May/15
@Average Height Person

You're 185cm in 6cm lifts in the morning (179cm barefoot morning means you're not exactly 5'10.5 unless that was actually a lunchtime measurement and not out of bed :p)

I'm 186cm in nike runners upon waking up and dip down to 184.5cm by late afternoon (182cm range barefoot is what i can hold for most of the day)
Jon said on 25/May/15
I just recently purchased a pair of Don's Shoes online.
I am absolutely impressed (Quality, fit, Design, Discretion).
My only regret is that I did not order from him years prior. I just ordered 6 of the same exact shoe, that shows how committed I am to his craft/art.
His shoes have changed my life and business career. Thanks Don!
Kyle25 said on 23/May/15
Rob I was thinking of purchasing my first pair of elevator shoes that is supposed to add 5.2 inches from tallmenshoes.com. I already wear lifts which add about 2 inches in height, how much height would I actually get from the shoes? These are the shoes Click Here
[Editor Rob: they won't actually add that amount, they might give you nearly 4 inches though... ]
RobV said on 21/May/15
There seems to be a bit of a glut of people asking the same question - are elevators comfortable. I have bought the very highest lift elevators from both Dons and Guido Maggi over the past 2 years (5" elevators) and walk all over London in both. Often for a mile or more at a time and in a day difficult to judge. I can even add a bit more height through a small lift and walk well but this is because I always buy them at least one size larger (to allow for more space).

For me the difference between being my usual 6'2.5" and around 2m (6'6"/6'7"ish) is amazing, the response I get is superb, no-one has ever realised I add to my height, and one thing at this height I suggest - put a bit of work into your body: I built my body up a shedload and at this height it now looks very very impressive - even if you just tone, it SERIOUSLY adds to the impression.

I've said this before here: if anyone wants any tips on all this (I have been using lifts for 15 years and elevators for 2) by all means drop me a line robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk
jb2435 said on 16/May/15
Hey Rob, I'm around 175cm, will the 2" dons OX 777 increase my height to 180cm? and is that very noticeable to people when i take the shoes off?
[Editor Rob: I think wearing 2 inch shoes won't be as noticeable as if you had 2.7 inch then took the shoes off. I wouldn't actually worry too much about what you think others may think, because much of the time they aren't that bothered or will quickly forget. I'd say in fact to anybody who raised an eyebrow or questioned you about elevators that they are posture improvement shoes, because they actually do help make you stand more vertically (ones around 2 inches).]
Rifle said on 11/May/15
Congrats Rob yesterday your website was quoted during a radio chat on bollywood. Anyways I just ordered this Adidas shoes online, do you think they will give me about 1.2 inches in height? Click Here
[Editor Rob: not seen the oregon latest version up close but looking at the style it appears they should give you a little bit above the inch yes!]
Average Height Person said on 8/May/15
Being 5 foot 10 and half I do consider myself to be short the reason why is: nearly all my friends are taller than me most being 6 foot 1 and one being 6 foot 5. I am also one of the shortest in my family, my younger brother is 6 foot 2. Even though i am older than my brother people for some reason think he's older than me just because he is taller lol.It makes no sense but its true! 9 out of 10 times people say my younger brother is older than me and when i correct them, they say they were mistaken because he is taller than me. Height is relative so for me i do feel a little bit short. I tried using lifts with elevator shoes to make me 6 foot 1 but that made walking immpossible so i just stay as 6 foot and half. the elevator shoes i use have midsole tech making it feel exactly like normal shoes.
Height183 said on 24/Apr/15
Rob, were the 2.3 inch Dons comfortable to walk in? Could one walk in them for a day without being in any pain?
[Editor Rob: this was Dons first models. They have improved them over the last 5 years...but the ones I've got I've tested a few times for normal wear like an hour in the house to see what it is like and they were comfortable enough, but I feel if you are going to wear them to work you need to get used to the difference in your feet/legs as men normally at most might be in 1.5 inch boots, going over 2 inches suddenly puts that foot at a bigger unnatural angle and it will take a bit of time to adjust and get your walking looking natural. Like for 2-3 weeks build up from 30 minutes to 4-5 hours of use. I certainly wouldn't put them on and wear for 4-5 hours straight away!]
6'1" Joe said on 23/Apr/15
lol so much insecurity here. You don't need to wear elevator shoes as long as you're not anything like 4'11". Men here at 5'10, 5'11" are talking about looking 6'1" or 6'2", think about those men who're not than 5'0".
Average Height Person said on 15/Apr/15
I'm 5 foot 10 and half and decided to buy a pair of elevator shoes. I got shoes advertised as a 7.5 cm increase but actually only gave me a 6cm increase to my height. In the morning with these shoes I'm 185cm (nearly 6 foot 1) and in the evening/night about 184cm (about 6 foot and half). What I'm wondering is can I add shoe lifts to these elevator shoes so I can be in the 6 foot 1 range. Can you add shoe lifts to elevator shoes?
RobV said on 4/Apr/15
For what it's worth, I have bought 3 pairs of elevators over the past 18 months, all from the 2 places which seem to be the best quality - GuidoMaggi and Don's. I bought the d'Etnas from Don's Click Here and the Shanghai boots from GuidoMaggi. Click Here In both cases I ordered the 5" versions.

My first were from Don's and apart from the fact that I received the 4" rather than the 5" ones, they were excellent boots. The look good with most things and perhaps quite amazingly they can be worn with skinny jeans showing. That is a real plus. More often though you wear them with jeans etc and they are fine for that purpose.

The GuidoMaggi boots are more expensive and are really superb. They look just like normal boots but really good quality ones.

What has occurred to me with these, for potential buyers, is that 5" elevators HAVE to have that chunky sole, the kinda gettagrip heavy duty sole you see on work boots. If that suits (and it is quite fashionable right now anyway) then great. But if you go for the 4" ones, OK you lose an inch but the boots themselves are flat soled and you really would never know the difference. For example this one Click Here is similarish to my Shanghai, slightly taller shaft but has a flatter sole. Anyone who wants or needs something like that is best sticking to the 4" elevators: frankly if you buy them a little larger in size than your normal shoesize, then if you WANT another inch you can probably do so with lifts etc.

I have answered many questions from guys on this site (and made some good friends, sharing our secret!) so if you ever want advice I am robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk I have been using lifts for almost 15 years and latterly with the advent of the better elevators from companies like Dons and GuidoMaggi, I have worn more of these. I am still also looking for any contacts who can do custom made elevators that copy established styles and boots. To my amazement, all my enquiries and attempts have drawn blanks.
minuteman92 said on 31/Mar/15
The confidence boost that I experienced from these shoes is unreal. As pathetic as it sounds, these have changed my self-esteem completely. If you feel like youre "too short," give Dons shoes a try.
Matt said on 23/Mar/15
Actually been too tall would have disadventage. I think the perfect male height is 6.1, You just look too lanky if your above 6foot1. Looks can be achieve with a Healthy weight(Not being overweight) And dressing sharp.Im 179cm and i do wear lifts(1.25 inch lift) Inside dress shoes(1.25 heel). Those elevators shoes look ridiculous.They look chunky. I get too 6 foot with those shoes.I really like that height.
Sean5 said on 14/Mar/15
Ok thanks for your advice, really I would like to appear at least 1.1" over supposedly barefoot. I think in order to get that I'd need 2.1-2.2" in total? Would the 2.75 style give around that? I appreciate your help
[Editor Rob: yes that shoe should give you about this 2.1-2.2 range, and it is a nice one too.]
Sean5 said on 8/Mar/15
Thanks, what do you think the 4 inch style on this shoe would give? Click Here
[Editor Rob: I think in 3-3.2 inch range of actual height. It is a nice shoe, personally if I was buying that boot I'd go with 2.5 or 75 style as it will have a nicer shape than 4-inch...and I think you will find it more comfortable to wear more often than the 4-inch models.]
AWARE said on 7/Mar/15
Rob, im planning to buy elevator shoes but im confused. I wear 8/8.5's on shoes like nike, vans or anything else but when i try on dress shoes i'm lost on what my size is. I wanna know what my size is like in Don's, what do you think my size will be?
[Editor Rob: you are best emailing the dons your foot length exactly, then they might be better suited to tell you which shoe size to go for.]
Sean5 said on 6/Mar/15
Do you think shoes like these from dons Click Here the 3.1" type would give 2.6-2.75? or would I have to get a 4" type?
[Editor Rob: might give you around 2.5 inch]
RobV said on 5/Mar/15
@ Roshe You are asking about adding 7cm in lifts (just under 3"). As a long term lift and elevator wearer myself, I can tell you that you can only get 3" of lifts into boots. Editor Rob is quite right that you really must buy these boots at least one size bigger (if you buy them your actual size you just will not get 7cm into them and be able to fit your foot into them (it depends upon the fitting, but that is what I have found).

One of the problems with people trying to jam lifts into same-size boots is that the upper then really presses into the top of your foot which is v uncomfortable. I myself often buy boots TWO sizes larger. Don't be too hung up on sizing - the great thing about using lifts against elevators is that you can have almost any size (fashionable/maintream/whatever) and add height. I have used elevators more recently because of the styles that are around, but I still like having lifts to put into the latest trainers etc.

You cannot fit 3" of lifts into any flat/work style shoe, so don't try - your feet will fall off.

In boots, the lifts should not show - just make sure the boots are big enough so you do not get that look where you cannot do laces up or where there is too much pressure.
Roshe said on 1/Mar/15
Hey Rob, I'm going to get a 7cm lifts. What type of shoes should I use? Do you think people will notice that I'm wearing lifts? Thank you.
[Editor Rob: get a boot 1 size bigger than normal and then put lifts in them. If your trousers or jeans are long enough to cover a lot of the boot many would never realise you had lifts.]
Nick74 said on 24/Feb/15
Hi Rob, Great site as ever. Would you think these boots give near 1.5 inches? Click Here
[Editor Rob: I think they should give you that no bother]
Lebensdorf said on 23/Feb/15
Rob, if you and Jenny had kids, they'd be tall, I bet. I notice that parents who are the same height, even if the guy is on the short side, usually end up with tall offspring. The height of the woman is more important than the height of the man, it seems, so if the woman is tall, like Jenny, the children are tall, more often than not. You guys would have nice looking kids.
[Editor Rob: since Jenny has 6 years on me, I think that ship has sailed by us.]
BL said on 21/Feb/15
Hey Rob! I'm exactly 5'6 1/2, and I was wondering, if i buy a Dons casual shoe(Ralph Lauren Tribute to be exact) with a heel choice of 1.5", will i achieve a standing height of 5'8" while wearing them? Thanks!
[Editor Rob: the 1.5 inch style should give you pretty near it, maybe like 1.3-1.4 inches of actual height, the 2 inch might give you 1.7-1.8 inches. I'd buy the bigger version and then you will comfortably measure a little bit over the 5ft 8 mark. ]
Sean5 said on 16/Feb/15
On this years valentines night at my local night club I was on the dance floor and got approached by a very attractive girl with her group of friends behind her, she explained they were playing some party game and on the card the dare was to kiss the tallest man in the room/dance floor and it happened to be me. Lucky thing was There were 3 people who I could see that were a bit shorter and also I was lucky for wearing good shoe lifts. Was a valentines to remember! I stood 6'3.25 in lifts + high tops would that mean I'd appear the same height as most 6'2 men would in casual footwear?
Sean5 said on 15/Feb/15
Are the huge pair of dons you're wearing on the bottom picture the D'etna 5 inch type?
[Editor Rob: yeah I think that is the type.]
Winteriscoming said on 13/Feb/15
Rob, if I wear 2 inches shoes regularly, will my height decrease?
[Editor Rob: no, it shouldn't - if you wore big heels a fair amount then possibly over many years it might contribute to some changes.]
TMS said on 13/Feb/15
See the thing about elevator shoes is that even if they dont make you very much taller, they give you the appearance of being much taller. For example, I'm about 5'10.5 (180 cm) and own a pair of elevator shoes that are "3 inches" but really give me about 2 inches. So, when I wear them I am close to 6'1. However, everyone asks me if I am 6'2 or even 6'3. They're quite sneaky!
ravi said on 12/Feb/15
ROB,wanted your opinion on these shoes how high do you think these shoes are?? (these are of a celebrity with avarage height) Click Here compared to these (are of an average college student Click Here another one for comparison Click Here .....thanks in advance
[Editor Rob: the sneakers might give about 0.7inch, the boots maybe a little over 1 inch]
RobV said on 5/Feb/15
@Mathew and Lebensdorf. You ask about adding extra height and do women find it attractive when you are taller. As I have learned when wearing lifts and elevators, adding extra height does make a difference to perceptions and attractiveness. But you have to do it in a way that is not detectable. It is fairly straightforward and undetectable adding a couple of inches (and that extra height is really noticeable). More and you have to take care of what you wear etc. I add 5" and as I know how to do it, it works big time.
Mathew said on 5/Feb/15
Lebensdorf says on 3/Feb/15
Do you guys think women find looks or height more attractive? I think ugly men who are tall are actually more attractive to women than otherwise decent looking men who are short or average, or an average looking short man who suddenly become very "handsome" if they were very tall. Look at Hayden Panettiere's boyfriend, or husband now, or whatever. Do you think she would be with him if he were like 5'11 or something? Doubtful. Also, I think if Haley Joel Osment were about 6'5 he would be considered a hunk.

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Well certainly it varies and it depends on the degree of each. In general, tall has been shown in experiments to be one of the attractive thing a man can be. The majority of women probably find 5'7.5" Tom Cruise more attractive than 6'9.25" NBA star Anthony Davis. Would an average looking 30 year old 5'10" man be more attractive to a larger portion of women if he woke up tomorrow and was 6'2"? It sure would. But would it make him more attractive than an extra handsome 5'10" man? Nah, probably not.
Lebensdorf said on 3/Feb/15
Do you guys think women find looks or height more attractive? I think ugly men who are tall are actually more attractive to women than otherwise decent looking men who are short or average, or an average looking short man who suddenly become very "handsome" if they were very tall. Look at Hayden Panettiere's boyfriend, or husband now, or whatever. Do you think she would be with him if he were like 5'11 or something? Doubtful. Also, I think if Haley Joel Osment were about 6'5 he would be considered a hunk.
RobV said on 2/Feb/15
@Sean5 on how to pay for Dons. You can also do a transfer from your bank, easy if you have online banking.
Sean5 said on 30/Jan/15
How did you buy your pair of dons? I live in North Wales and it seems they only take US Dollars?
[Editor Rob: if you pay through paypal (using your cc) then it will be fine and just convert the $ to £ at checkout.]
RobV said on 29/Jan/15
@Shawn Well this is the funny thing - the 4"/5" boots are quite the opposite of difficult to walk in. As well as the Don's, I also just got some 5" GuidoMaggi boots (my highest) and it took me four or five wears to get it totally 100% right but now I walk and feel completely natural. Even then when I was starting to wear them it was just the kinda natural effect you get with any new footwear.

What is interesting is that they are also my most comfortable boots (both pairs). This may be because of course the elevators are designed as such and I am not necessarily adding more lifts (I do add a tad more in certain circumstances when I want to be taller if there's another real tall guy around!). Last night I wore the 5" GMs travelling (on a flight, off, home etc) and had no probs at all.

I think you have to get used to walking higher (like women get used to wearing heels, it's v similar as a concept). But 'difficult to walk in' is not something I have an issue with.

btw I just checked the RDJ shots and footwear again and he doesn't wear stuff as high as that - what is annoying with him is that he wears stuff in a way which screams elevator/added height, but he is in a position to buy and wear stuff which would just be so so much more discreet at that height. He doesn't need for it to look so obvious (a bit like Stallone I guess). But some guys get stuck on their own style and will not move - also with elevators you 100% HAVE to wear them with the right things. There really is no point in wearing a clumpy great pair of elevator trainers or boots with smart trousers crumpled over the upper of the boots. It would be fine if that were a current style or look but it is just not - it shouts that you have added height as it is not a current style idea.

Interestingly if they looked at what was stylish and adapted it, they would never be rumbled. It is an odd thing right now that in UK and Europe, skinny jeans are really v popular. They would normally be the last thing you would wear elevator boots with, but the current LOOK (or one of the current looks) is for clumpy boots with them. I actually wear my Don's in particular with stretch skinnies and it just looks like the look that loads of other guys have. If that style were NOT popular and I carried on doing it, it would call attention and then someone might think the boots look odd. A lot is about how you wear them. With my 5" GMs I wears less skintight jeans but with a good line and NOT crumpled over the boot.
Lebensdorf said on 29/Jan/15
I think most women would consider a man under 6 feet to be short, or at least "on the short side." I know that sounds harsh but I think this is the reality. That doesn't mean that this is unattractive, just not as impressive, that's all. But it's no big deal. The fact of the matter is, 5'11 is just not as "tall" as it used to be. 6 feet may sound prestigious but it is not impressive anymore. I think 6'3-6'4 is respectably tall, and anything above that is legit tall. But the 6 foot range, that's pretty common, you wouldn't stand out. I think 6'4 is a perfect height for a man, in my opinion. It's not "too tall" at all, not by a long shot, not today.
Arch Stanton said on 28/Jan/15
Rob you might want to add the caption to the above photo "See, I ate all of my green and did some stretches every day for a week and I magically grew a few inches! :-) Can you believe the cheek of using that photo to promote "natural" honest height gain. It really is ludicrous!!
[Editor Rob: I have no problem if somebody was doing a video and talking about elevator shoes and saying look at this photo, you can get 2 inches out of them...but it's just misrepresenting and adding to the false idea that these products give you 3 inches in 90 days or whatever outlandish claim it is! Don't get me started on the Indian Height Guru though! His claims and video proof would have G buying a ticket to Delhi if he watched these cm's of gains in days!]
Shawn said on 27/Jan/15
Rob, I can almost guarantee the height increase you're getting wearing the Big Don's is what Robert Downey Jr. is getting from his footwear. Those shoes must be very difficult to walk in.
RobV said on 27/Jan/15
Over on the general height section, someone who is 16 asked me about wearing elevators/lifts. I didn't start till I was 19/20 and I think it all really depends upon lifestyle. If you really want to make yourself taller, then at that age there are so many factors. I would start a bit lower with just an inch of lift put in as a shoelift and not as an elevator boot (undetectable and it is also the kind of addition you get just from certain types of boots) and see how it fits your lifestyle. If it works out OK then you can go higher. I thought it worth posting here.

The guy in question who asked is just under 6' and wants to get to 6'2". That's really quite easy in the medium term, and because he is already tall, it is easier to do undetectably.
Jeff said on 26/Jan/15
Rob, can you go back to your morning height if you finish you working-out session by a few stretching exercises?
[Editor Rob: nah, you need a few hours of rest so your discs can properly rehydrate.]
ARod said on 19/Jan/15
I bought two gorgeous shoes from Don's Footwear, the OX-51 and the

MST Quiri2. My first order was the MST Quiri2. Due to my lack of attention to detail I ordered the wrong material or "finish." I thought the glossy was their "Patent Black" and found myself having to get a hold of Don and asking for an exchange. As a customer one is a bit skeptic of the quality of service a person may get working with someone so far away. I mean what can you do when the shoes come from overseas. Don truly left me amazed with the consistent communication via-email. Yes the shoes took a bit longer then what I wanted but they were worth the wait. Three words... Quality, Quality, Quality.

While waiting for my exchange Don made me feel confident enough to place another order. I then ordered the OX-51 (gorgeous brown). They arrived first because Don had to go back to the "drawing board" for the black pair. When I saw the OX-51 I couldn't be any happier. Again, quality. I understand they take a while, listen that kind of sucks! As for me... I have a list going. I know what shoes I want next.

Listen if your impatient you can buy a pair that may look good, and yes they will get to you a lot sooner. If you can be patient you can get a pair of shoes you will love, and when people look at them they know by the material that you paid a pretty penny for them. They are worth the wait.
Jeff said on 19/Jan/15
Rob, when they say that working out makes you shrink a little bit (a few mm), do they talk about long term or are they just referring the fact of losing your morning height more quickly?
[Editor Rob: it's more the strain/stress on your spine making you shrink quicker to your lowest height. Also if you become dehydrated during the workout it may also push you further down to an absolute low which is a few mm under your normal low.]
Rob V said on 19/Jan/15
btw on those contacts with a good bootmaker who might be able to do custom-made elevators, you can contact me on robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk I have had two recommended already but more will be welcome.
RobV said on 15/Jan/15
Does anyone know a good bootmaker (UK/US/Europe) that does custom-made elevators? From your own designs/favourite boots? I'm thinking modern stuff as well as traditional.
Crypto139 said on 3/Jan/15
@vfpswiftie Look American? Are you going by his features or his clothing on that picture on this page. I guess the clothing could make him seem like a southern american country guy with those jeans and the big boots I guess. Not sure how he sounds German though. Then again the German I meet spoke with an American accent but his mom is American and he lived in the USA for about 2 years or so. Also Rob is the average there in Scotland just a flat 5 feet 9 or is it nearer 5 feet 10? 5 feet 9 on the dot would seem slightly low I guess. I think the average in the United States is 5ft 9.5 for men of all ages and races.
[Editor Rob: In Scotland and England it is right around the 5ft 9 mark overall, the youth 18-30 range have near 5ft 10 average though.]
vfpswiftie said on 3/Jan/15
Eob, I have a question and its a little personal one, if you are 5ft8 which is an inch under the average American male height, are you American or German because you sound like German but looks like American?
[Editor Rob: I am from Scotland, the average here is still 5ft 9 aswell.]
RobV said on 26/Dec/14
@G These are the first GuidoMaggi (GM) boots I have bought and they are excellent. From the bottom of the heel to the top of the lift is 5" which means that you gain about 4" in height - you always lose some with angle etc (i have never quite understood this but the Editor here - also called Rob - has done stuff about this on a youtube clip I think). This of course means that you are 3" taller than you appear in the same kind of boots without lifts. So as I am just a bit over 6'2" barefoot, I am 2m-ish wearing them (between 6'6" and 6'7").

The Don's I bought last year (d'Etnas) were 4" to which I added a 1" lift. For some reason I did not receive the 5" ones I wanted. They have exactly the same effect as the GMs and are good boots, in spite of the missing inch!

I mentioned here recently that I was going to buy the 5.5" d'Etnas but decided against, as a contact on here who went for some did not get the full extra. He measured the 'bottom of heel to top of lift' and it was just over 4", quite a lot less than the 5.5". This would have led to a lower height increase of course. I already have a Don's 4" pair (to which I add a 1" lift) and these have exactly the same height effect as the GMs. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has managed to get the 5'5" Don's d'Etna.

The GM model was the Shanghai and it is incredibly comfortable (as indeed are the Don's d'Etnas). There are no issues with comfort as they are built specifically with the intention of providing that kind of lift. If anything they are both the most comfortable boots I have ever worn.

It is of course easy for me to say 'go for the max' because I now do and have got there over the years having worn lifts which, on reflection, were kinda incremental - I got to my height over a period of time. Similarly, always remember that a 5" elevator gives you about 3"+ on top of what you would be wearing similar boots but without elevators. Once you buy something smaller, you will always then want to buy the taller. So I would just do it.

If you need any more info feel free to contact me on robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk. I have met a lot of people on here who have wanted advice on elevators/lifts etc.
snatch said on 25/Dec/14
i wore lifts 1 time in my life and it looked hilarious

it looked so funny that i would make homophobic remarks about
my self to

it looked funny

my only point is Come As You Are
G said on 24/Dec/14
@RobV Do you find the 5" GMs you bought give you the full 5" this time or less? How about the Dons? Exactly which model GM 5" boots did you go for and how are they to walk in? I bought some cheap 5" shoes last year off the net but they only give 3" and a bit awkward. Would you still reccomend going for 5" or maybe slightly less for comfort?
RobV said on 24/Dec/14
@ snatch The problem with saying people look 'hilarious' wearing elevators is, of course that you have never seen anyone doing so. If you had ever seen someone using lifts, you would know that your comment is simply weird.

The key to all things is, particularly in the season of supposed goodwill, is tolerance of others' choices and not to make up false justifications for attacking those choices. Making lame homophobic remarks about dropping soap in prison is a particularly stupid and crass remark to make.
Ba said on 24/Dec/14
I ordered a pair of Dons shoes and of course was scared being they were 235 dollars and across the sea but they came back so well made and looking great. As with any new leather boots I had to break them in which only took a few wears and I could not be happy

thanks Don you will hear from me again
snatch said on 23/Dec/14
i find it funny I'm 5 foot 8 and never had the thought of wearing lifts

shame on the men who are over 6 feet and wearing lifts
there are men out there that would love to be 6 feet flat

and yet there are 6 foot 2 men wearing 3 inch shoes

id rather walk around barefoot around 6 foot men wearing lifts
that wear lifts and join the circus

haha and the way you walk when you wear lifts is hilarious it looks
like you dropped the soap to many times in prison enjoy you new look
Lebensdorf said on 22/Dec/14
Thanks, RobV, I am going to try the D'Etna from Don's.
RobV said on 17/Dec/14
@Lebensdorf I have now bought two pairs of 5” elevators, one from Don's and one just received from GuidoMaggi. And both, funny enough, are THE most comfortable things I have ever worn. And this is really because they are designed to cushion and to create boots which allow for the added height. Whenever I have tried to add, say, anything above 3” in boots which are NOT elevators, I can only do that if the boots are 2 sizes bigger than what I usually wear. That's fine and it works but is not as good as elevators if you can get a style you really like. I am not sure I have ever managed to really add 5” comfortably or easily in any non-elevator boots without compromising the style (and causing discomfort). And it looks fine, but for comfort, these 2 pairs I have recently bought are in a different league.

It appears that the real reason that 5” is the highest they really go is that at just below that level, slightly over 4”, any further added height has to be achieved by a thicker sole. This actually looks really cool on sturdy boots, but is no good for shoes, unless a style were to develop fashion-wise that allowed for that. But it means a full cushion designed to allow you to walk at that height. I have walked for miles in my Dons and will put the GuidoMaggis (GMs) through the same.

But no, no trouble at all walking - the real key to elevators that high is to make sure they they LOOK right with what you are wearing. It has to be pants and a style that goes with boots, the boots should not fit too tight as they can look clumpy (always buy at least a size larger than you would normally buy, trust me that is a real must). But interestingly with both the Dons and the GMs, I can wear skinny jeans which you cannot with a lot of elevator styles - they look too obvious.
RobV said on 15/Dec/14
OK you might remember I had recently said I had taken the plunge after receiving a special offer from the ultra expensive elevator makers GuidoMaggi (GM). Well they arrived real quick, a 5" elevator in a very trendy and current style. They are just fab, f*$@#*g wonderful. I am just so pleased I did. The styling and workmanship is superb, and what is best is that no-one would think they are elevators. I have actually worn them with very tight skinny jeans and they look totally right (in fairness my Don's d'Etnas are the same, but most other styles it is just not possible to do this). I am really bothered about even the slightest possibility of not looking right in such circumstances and usually elevators have to be slightly concealed. But when I saw the v professional promos on their site, they clearly showed guys walking around wearing them like that and they looked good/undetectable. Now I thought, cynical me, "yeah these ones in the promos are probably very low elevators which you CAN wear with skinnies and slim cut." But no, the 5" ones are just amazing and look exactly like the ones in the clips when you wear them out. Emanuele (at GM) 'great stuff, mate. Now we would love you bring the prices right down:) But understand why they are so expensive. You pay for quality.'
[Editor Rob: they are very expensive, but then, sometimes you are better paying 3 or 400 dollars for something you are going to look good in and they won't fall apart...many of the cheaper manufacturers who churn out low end elevators should be avoided.]
Guns said on 15/Dec/14
Rob: basically I just measured it again on Google with the inches you said 2.5 and it says I would be 5ft 7 1/2. Also don't you think the sambos could give a 2.8 inch? 2.5 from the advertisement of 3.1 is a lot thanks rob.
[Editor Rob: the ones that are advertised as 3.1 I believe would give somewhere in the 2.5-2.6 range, I explained it a little in a video on the 'heel height' page on this site, why we don't really get as much as heels/elevator shoes are advertised.]
Lebensdorf said on 14/Dec/14
RobV, do you ever find that you have trouble walking with the 5 inch lift?
Guns said on 8/Dec/14
Rob I am 5'5 if I get dons sambo shows (3.1inch) will I be close to 5'6
[Editor Rob: since they might give about 2.5 inches you are going to appear like say a 5ft 6.5 man or even close to 5ft 7 depending on what other people are wearing...many men will have 0.5-1.25 inch footwear while yours are 2.5 inches. So you are gaining probably 1.5-1.75 inches more than them with the dons.]
RobV said on 27/Nov/14
@ TGWM And best of all, mate, no-one will notice either, so it matters even less what they think. What you say sums it up - if you wear what looks fitting for where you are (office, club, bar, wherever), then no-one will notice. WHere problems begin is when people (once again, Downey Jnr, Stallone et al) where these clunking great things with suit trousers flapping up over a great wedge (for heaven's sake) at black tie/red carpet events. Then it's "all eyes on the footwear...what is that all about?"

The irony being that they COULD wear these boots at such an event if the trousers were made to look right with them. No doubt they do not earn very much so cannot afford a decent pair of $200 pants with $20 of altering. It's probably time this site had a whip round (ie a collection of cash for them, in case anyone misinterprets that phrase).

And Steve, never yet saw the Barbazza by Don. It looks good on the site, specially in Black.
Steve said on 26/Nov/14
don's shoes are the best quality shoes I have seen in years. I just purchased a pair of black Barbazza Boots and they are beautiful and comfortable. Thanks To Don's Elevator Shoes. Steve, Columnus. ohio
mikey said on 26/Nov/14
Hi rob I was looking at dons mid sole technology they advertise ones at 3.1 inch lift do you think you would get that full lift because of the mid sole tech. many thanks
[Editor Rob: you still won't quite get that if they are measuring at the very back...more like 2.7-8 range]
Lebensdorf said on 25/Nov/14
When I was in high school, I was 5'11 in my senior year. I was about 5'10 in 9th grade, about 5'10.75 in 11th grade, and a full 5'11 by the time I graduated, when I was 18. Lots of guys in my class towered over me. I didn't feel tall at tall. I think my generation (I'm 27) is pretty tall, and the kids who are in high school now, some of them are giants. I live in the US. I'm from the NYC area. It's different depending on your location. I remember, there were even some girls around my height, and I often felt kind of short. When I came back and visited a few years later, at age 21, I was 6'1. My old teachers said, "Hey, you got tall!" I think this illustrates the difference between those under six feet and those over. It was a growth spurt of only two inches but somehow it made all the difference in the world to these people. 5'11 is really not tall in today's world. Pretty soon 6 feet will be the average height in the US for men, in about 20 years.
TGWN said on 22/Nov/14
As I mentioned in my first post, I have played around with height increasing footwear for years. I work in an office environment and manage a group of about 25 engineers and as far as they are concerned, I am about 6' 3 1/2" (and on some days a bit more or less). We have become a 'close-knit' group over the years and despite this, I am VERY confident none of them are even aware of my real height and they simply see me as a 'taller than average person'. We not only work together in the office, but head out to social events together as well. I live in Canada where 'Stats Canada' (official government statistical branch) pegs the average Canadian male over 20 years of age at 5'8.6" (which seems shorter than what I typically observe, but Canada does have a higher Asian population that maybe brings the overall average down. If this is the statistic, then I guess I sometimes 'tower' as the term is used over the average by about 6" assuming the average person is also wearing shoes that boost them by an inch. My barefoot height is 6' 1/2". The gist of all this is: no one notices this type of height gain. Depending on the type of footwear I wear day to day, my total height varies by a good 1.5"; AND despite this routine 'change', no-one notices, comments or likely cares either. I will be wearing my 'formal d'Etnas' (see earlier post on this) with internal lift to the office without any qualms or worries. These I hope will get me to + 6' 4" and do I worry what people are going to think? No, and I don't really care either. I would have a go at wearing the 5.5" d'Etnas to work as well but the appearance of the boot itself won't fit in with the office. I will be wearing these 'ultra-tall d'Etnas every where else though and without any concern. I agree totally with all of RobV's comments and he has actually spurred me on to trying insert lifts again in addition. If you are going to fret and worry about what other people will think, then you might as well wear plain grey suits and blend into the crowd as best you can.
RobV said on 20/Nov/14
Ever since I posted my e-mail address in this section following my posts about my own experiences, I have heard from loads of tall guys who either want to be taller, or who already use lifts/elevators to make themselves taller, including TGWN who mentions it below. It reinforces what I have said before that already tall guys are often more aware of the advantages of the extra inches - maybe because they know that they can achieve them. Good luck with the 5.5" d'Etnas mate.
TGWN said on 15/Nov/14
Based on some commentary here on this site and a lengthy email conversation with RobV (thanks RobV), I have gone ahead and ordered a pair of ultra tall d'Etnas (5.5") from Don's. Also, Don's has a coupon offer there at the moment, so I also ordered a second pair of d'Etnas in a slightly more formal look (look at his website and pan through the photos of the D'etna. What I call the formal boot is shown in black, has a thinner sole, and is captioned "toe cap seam removed and panel edges rounded". Maximum height on this is 4"). I have also ordered in one size larger which will allow me to play with some internal lift as well. My maximum height right now is 6' 4 3/4" (just measured). Hopefully the ultra d'Etnas with me adding some internal lift will get me to 6' - 5.5" (or dare I say 6' -6"). The formal d'Etna? Well, I will have no problem wearing that in my office working environment. In the office, I currently am at 6' - 3.5"; I am hoping these get me to over 6'- 4", again with some help with added internal lift. Looking forward to receiving the d'Etnas and my first trip to the coffee shop in the ultra tall!
RobV said on 14/Nov/14
@Ytb Welcome to the club, mate. I am just a tad over 6'2" (almost 190cm) and I wear elevators and lifts to get to 6'5"/6'6"+. Just ordered my first 5" GuidoMaggis and about to go back in and try to get those 5.5"/6" Don's d'Etna boots if they are now ready for production.
Ytb said on 13/Nov/14
I'm about 6 foot 1 and I war lifts to get to 6 foot 3-4
RobV said on 13/Nov/14
Re Guido Maggi. Well I took the plunge. I didn't mean to (cost!). But taking advantage of a 24 hour Veterans Day offer from the firm that landed in my inbox, I paid today for a pair of 5" elevator Guido Maggi boots. I actually spoke to the guy who runs the company and he is amazingly helpful, interested in everything, committed to his business and really understands the need for elevators to be fashionable.

I will keep you informed on the outcome - my size is bigger than their usual largest (US 14, EU 47, UK 13.5) so they have to be specially made. No extra charge just a little extra time needed. Can't wait.
Lebensdorf said on 12/Nov/14
RobV, yes, the visible heel is part of the advertised increase, which is why I always subtract an inch when considering the lift, since everyone is already wearing about an inch as it is. What I really hate is the clomp clomp sound that the shoes make when you walk, unless you walk slowly. I don't know if you experience this. Is it hard to walk with a 5 inch lift?
RobV said on 11/Nov/14
@ Lebensdorf. The important point is that the inch or so in heel is factored into the advertised elevator lift. This is not a criticism of those who make them but it does tend to make me always err on the side of going for taller (along with quality).

Some might be inclined to look at stats and say "why bother?" but it really DOES make a difference.

But as Editor Rob once said (I think in a video), more height is gained from heels than from elevators per inch so it is always worth thinking of a not-too-high heel when such boots are in fashion (along with a damned great elevator/lift inside as well of course!)
Lebensdorf said on 9/Nov/14
TGWN, I think, as a general rule, you have to subtract 1.5 inches from the advertised increase. I have two pairs of elevators which are advertised to make the wearer 4 inches taller, but only make me 2.5 inches taller than my barefoot height. Then subtract an additional inch, because most men around you would not be barefoot. Most guys would be wearing about an inch of heel. So, practically speaking, when out and about, an advertised increase of 4 inches makes one appear only 1.5 inches taller. "5.5 inches" would make you 3 inches taller.
RobV said on 7/Nov/14
@TGWN. You are really exactly like me in being well above average in height but 'just want to be taller' by using elevators. And you ask me how the 5.5/6" d'Etnas of Don's worked out. I did buy some but alas there were a few technical issues and they were not the 5.5"/6" ones that I ended up getting. Don very kindly and quickly reimbursed me with no probs and I am going to order from him again now that the problem is resolved! I do however already have the 4" d'Etnas to which I add a 1" lift.

For what it is worth, I am 6'2" barefoot and when I wear the d'Etnas with the 4" elevator + 1"added lift (total 5"), I get to just under 6'6".

But (and this applies to all elevators), remember one thing. I have a pair of boots exactly like that with no elevator, and if I were to wear these without any lifts inside (no way!), my height goes to over 6'3" anyway (with the 1"+ heel you get on most workboot styles). So the true extra gain is really less than 3". That is no criticism, just a point I make about ALL elevators from my experience.

So here for ease is my little table of how I measure:

Barefoot 6'2"
Wearing a workboot with no lift/elevator 6'3.25"
Wearing a 4" elevator workboot 6'4.75 (just under 6'5")
Wearing a 4" elevator + 1" lift 6'5.5ish
Assumed height with 5.5"/6" elevator 6'6 - 6'6.5

The key to really going for 'added height' is really the difference between you wearing normal footwear and wearing your elevators - and you can see that for example if you wear something that is advertised as 5", the actual difference in my case from wearing normal footwear to wearing my elevators is only a good 2" or 2.5". When talking about elevators, people tend to compare measuring from barefoot to their 'new' height in the elevators. This of course is not entirely rational in terms of considering the impact of your added height generally, if that is what you are looking for - after all, you always wear footwear, and even those with whom you do not wear it (around the home etc) factor in that when you put a pair of boots on you are a bit taller (people do not even think about it).

So if you are talking about wanting to be thought of as 2" or 3" taller, then rationally you have to think in terms of that added height being from what you are in your normal footwear to what you are in the elevators. And that means the higher elevators.

Of course, most people do not wear workboot styles every day (and these are a higher start point of course than most work shoes etc). But trainers have the same effect, so do Timberlands and so do a lot of current styles.

You are quite right in not trying to put too much additional shoe lift into footwear that is your normal size. I myself have tended to use lifts wit bigger size boots because in the past elevators were pretty dreadful 'old mannish' stuff. With what I do I always have to be current. That is changing, which is good.

And I too wear some heels as well and it is an old saying in the elevator world (!) - you really do get way more height extra per inch from heels than you do from elevators. So a bit of a heel on a boot is no bad thing (and for me with a stack of added lift inside).

And yeah, mate, 4" added height is my thing as well. Perfect. And the styles are getting more varied. Still also toying with buying those GuidoMaggi boots but they are just so expensive. Getting closer to it though!

When I get my 5.5"/6" d'Etnas I will let you know on here how it has worked and what addition I get. How they fit/look etc.

I would be interested in knowing which hiknig boot style you bought. You can post it here, or to me at robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk
RobV said on 7/Nov/14
@ babis1860 You mention wanting to guarantee getting an extra 2.5" height from elevators and that you're buying from Don's. Depending upon what style you want, I suggest buying the 4", for one reason - you get an inch+ anyway from any boots you are wearing (so, if you like, all boots are elevators to some degree!). I have bought from Don's. I wanted the 5" ones to take me from 6'2" to 6'6" (assuming a 4") and ended up with 4" ones + an inch lift: without the added lift, when I tried them, the 4" ones added just over 2.5" of height - which would take you from your 5'9.25" to 6'. Let me know hows it goes.
RobV said on 7/Nov/14
@ Lee on the idea of lifts making your arms look short! This is honestly one of those areas that is just not even worth bothering thinking about. A guy I know who is actually my height when I am wearing my elevators (he doesn't know I do, of course) has arms that are way SHORTER than mine. So that is the opposite of what you are referring to - there is no way I could suggest or think 'you must be wearing elevators' simply because of that. The variations in all these little areas of body proportion are so great in terms of % etc because of genetics that the last thing anyone thinks is that it might be to do with wearing lifts etc.

There is no way that, even if you magically acquired 6" in extra height with the same arms, that that would even be thought of by anyone (except yourself!).
Lee said on 5/Nov/14
@RobV, do you have any issue with your arms looking short when wearing such big lifts (3-4 inches), or is your wingspan long enough to compensate for the extra height? I'm 5'8", and my wingspan is only 2 inches longer than my height. I'm thinking about getting 3 inch lifts but I don't know if they would make my arms look weirdly out of proportion.
TGWN said on 3/Nov/14
Came across this website a while ago and find it very interesting. I have played around with height increasing footwear for years and all the issues discussed hear ring so true. I am at exactly 6'-1/2" and for some reason 'just want to be taller'. I wear quite a variety of footwear including square toed harness boots with a 2.75" exposed chunky heel to 'true' elevator shoes with the hidden heel. The highest pair I have gets me to a solid 6' - 4 1/2" and I frankly I love it. The extra 4" come in a hiking boot style with an advertised 5.5" lift which provides me with a true full 4" gain. I don't use lift inserts as I have never had much comfort with them, but maybe I should try again, but my current footwear is all 'true to my size' so I doubt I could comfortably do it without buying more (oversize) footwear.

I have read a lot here about "Don's", but it sounds they suffer from the same issue of 'real height add is much less than advertised". I would like to hear from RobV in regard to the real height add on the 5.5/6" d'Etnas.
babis1860 said on 3/Nov/14
Hey Rob , thank you very much for this site you're doing a great job. I'm planning to buy a pair of Don's in the future and I need to ask you a question about the lifts inside them. I'm 5'9.25 and I want to make myself appear around 5'11.5 - 6'0 so the logical step would to be to buy shoes with 2.5 inch lifts but is it going to give me 2.5 inches worth of height total or 2.5 inches plus the heel? Forgive my ignorance but I'm not familiar with this... Thanks a lot!
[Editor Rob: if you want to get 2.5 inches you would need to buy the ones advertised like 3 inches, that can get you about 2.3ish of actual height, if you got 3.5 or 4, then you would definitely get in the 2.5-3 inch of 'actual height'.]
NNA said on 26/Oct/14
Hi Rob. can you tell me what type of shoe are you wearing the in the last picture. I mean i can't find them on the website
[Editor Rob: sorry I don't know if it is on the site, it was a custom boot Dons sent me.]
Arthur said on 21/Oct/14
TRY dons. guido maggi are very expensive!
BenR said on 17/Oct/14
I have some air max that gives me about 3cm nearly on my height. I thought adding normal 1 inch lifts (these are solid ones not squishy) under the insole would make me an inch taller than that or at least 5cm (2cm extra). The thing is that in my airmax, in total they only give me just around 4.5cm extra height. Is this normal? If they were in converse etc I suppose they would give me a larger lift?

By the way, I bought Seca 213 staiometer and it only professes an accuracy of +-5mm...I also noticed it would be a 2-3 mm short due to innacurracies I measured on it where the bits fit together. It is portable though so I suppose it's easy enough to add a few millimeters to the measurement.
RobV said on 14/Oct/14
Well, Lebensdorf, if you've got the cash, try the GuidoMaggi and tell me what they are like :) I like the Don's pair I have got (high lift d'Etnas), but I too would like to have a shot at a pair of the GuidoMaggis when I think I can spare the cash. I think I would get the 5" Shanghai or Innsbruck style from their range. But there's loads more I would go for in the 4" and less.

But like I say, Don's are v good in that boot range, the d'Etnas, the army type ones etc. GET BOTH!
Lebensdorf said on 13/Oct/14
What do you think, guys, Guido Maggi or Don's? Which should I try?
RobV said on 9/Oct/14
@ Fog, as Editor Rob says, that totally gives you a good way of testing out making yourself taller without committing to buying elevators. That kind of happened to me for years naturally. I have been using lifts (boots are best, as you say) for 15 years, since I was late teens. In those days there were only elevators in the most crap styles and small sizes. So you had no choice. But it is still the best way of seeing how it feels.
184.3cm said on 9/Oct/14
Elevators are big business in Holland. So many guys want to be tall because its expected i think. Bulgarria shoes is a shop that i have noticed it spreading allover. I dont think they would sell the same quality as those hand made shoes from Dons as they are probably cheaply produced. For instance i have a friend who i was sure would measure round 178cm but he came over to my place for a visit with his family and in my house you take your shoes off at the door. When he came into our living room i couldnt believe it he was lucky if he hit 173cm barefoot.
Fog said on 6/Oct/14
I'm a solid 5'11 which is a decent height, but sometimes i like to feel taller. Instead of buying elevators i bought a pair of landrover boots than give 1.6 inches over barefoot height and then added a cork shoe insert that gave 2.5cm (1 inch). I walk around outside to what a 6'05 man would and feel quite tall. I don't wear them all the time, but the inserts in the boots are quite comfy if put in properly. Would recommend for a boot only though.
[Editor Rob: it's certainly a cheaper option than a 200 bux pair of elevator shoes, I'd always recommend someone who is thinking of elevators to maybe buy a cheap pair of lifts to test them out, then move onto a well made elevator shoe with inbuilt sturdy lift.]
RobV said on 3/Oct/14
@ Anon on pain. This really should not be happening if you have inserted lifts right and are wearing the right footwear and right size for the lifts. As I asked before, how tight are the shoes on top? And how do they feel in other parts of the foot? Do the lifts feel like they make the shoes too tight? 4" of lift for me is only possible in very oversized and big boots. So what type of footwear are we talking about here? You cannot get 4" of lift in any normal type of shoe. It seems to me, without knowing this, that your problem is simply one of pain brought on by very ill fitting shoes which itself is brought on by wearing just too much lift. Think about it - shoes and boots are designed to be worn for the size you have bought. If you are trying to go big, you have to wear bigger shoes. If you are trying to stick that amount of lift in anything else, then you are probably trying to put too much in. I did this when I started using lifts (home made) and had a few problems at first.

There is only so much you can put into shoes, and even half an inch too much can go from ease to pain.
Anon said on 30/Sep/14
I am not sure if you guys remember me, but I made a posting here regarding the pain I am experiencing wearing 4'' shoe lifts. Today my knees are killing me the pain came out of no where the past week. What can I do to ice my knees down?
[Editor Rob: I would take a break from them! And not do too much walking to let your knees recover a bit. Maybe you wore them too long and it's strained your joint?]
Lebensdorf said on 29/Sep/14
Rob Paul: mild-mannered celebrity autograph collector by day; Big Rob, man about town, by night.
RobV said on 19/Sep/14
@ Lebensdorf. Your situation is very similar to mine - tall and adding to get to very tall. Not sure if you have ever tried more than the inch or two you mention, taking you to 6'3", but I can tell you it is quite tempting to go for more at that level (and on the basis of the points you make) - if you do, try it out at night/at a club/bar type situation first.

@ Attitude, it is amazing yes, that people just do not notice. If you show a picture and say "these are elevators", then people will say "yes I can tell," even if they are not! Nothing ever needs to look like the Stallone/Downey Jnr munsters. It's really how you go about things. Big boots are big, and as I have said here before (with some shots to show what I mean), ALL boots like that can look like they have lifts, as they are chunky-heeled and big. For me they are the best and it's always great when they are fashionable or fit where/how you work. But if you try to wear them in some semi-formal situation like the Stallones do, then it potentially looks rather obvious.
Attitude said on 18/Sep/14
I agree RobV. I wore this huge ass boots in the warehouse I worked at. Most of the guys there were legit 6 feet or above. So I kinda matched that with the boot and lift. I had the same experience where people were saying I was pretty tall without realizing to factor in footwear Haha.

It's interesting how I was chosen to do certain duties over others because I work out and looked taller than some other candidates. In this case height got me noticed by the boss and had me do extra work for more cash over the other new people since I was a bit taller than them.
huh? said on 18/Sep/14
@attitude

The global height is not near 5'9.5
Lebensdorf said on 16/Sep/14
RobV, You're right about looks from guys. I can tell when a man is a little envious of my height, especially when he's with his gf. But the girls don't always care that much, it's true. Although I honestly think height is the most attractive quality for most women. I see these guys who are just dogs and they have beautiful girlfriends because they're like 8 feet tall and strong looking. At a club, a guy can wear a paper bag over his face and pick up a good looking girl if he's upwards of 6'5. On the other hand, there are some short guys who own their shortness and have the confidence, and I truly respect them.
RobV said on 16/Sep/14
@ Attitude. Yes it's weird how guys just do not really seem to factor into account the difference that varying shoes/boots can make, even with no lift. And getting from 5'9.5" to just under 6'2" with the right footwear and lifts is exactly what you say - a nice harmless power trip.

I've told my story before as to how I started wearing stuff to make me seem taller, but there's an additional point that ties in with what you have said - I used to help a mate run a club where these three guys used to come in, all around 6'6" ish and well built. One of them was Pete Steele, the musician, and I noticed he wore these great big badass engineer style boots which totally gave him at least 2"+ in spite of being so tall. Both of the others wore cuban heel/cowboy boots as well. And their height just totally dominated. They were clearly not about to be wearing flat shoes to minimise their height, any of them. So at 6'2" I got just wearing big boots like that (Docs/Rangers etc), progressed (fast!) to lifts and like you I managed to get that extra 4"+ and really love it once I was their height.

Strangely, now I do my own nights, one of those 3 guys who is still occasionally on the scene came in some months ago and almost the first thing he did when he saw me was check out how tall I was and said 'F*&#, you're tall'. Maybe a childish little thing on my part, but it was quite a buzz having one of these 3 who I had kinda idolised in my late teens saying something like that. Silly really, but a buzz nonetheless.
Attitude said on 15/Sep/14
I'm 5'9.5" maybe just a tad over, and it's true RobV; if I wear just flat converse shoes out and about downtown, I feel like how a below average guy (a 5'8" guy) would in regular runners/trainers/boots. Even just wearing runners with a typical inch and a bit heel, it really changes the feeling. In one of my trainers, I'm just a hair under 5'11. In boots with an insole or lift, depending on the boot, I can get up to 6'0" to close to 6'2" (such as using a construction worker's boot with a full lift inside).

While I wish I was a 5'11" guy, it's not hard to pass for 5'11"-6'0" in public.

I have a few friends who are identical to my height, slightly above, and slightly below (go figure, I'm 5'9.5", the global average). When I wear converse type shoes with no heel/lift at all, and they are all wearing runners with an inch heel, boy does that make a difference. My friend who is the same height looks huge if he wears his air max shoes while I wear converse and vice versa. Like, it's really weird to look up to somebody who is normally eye level just because of a slight shoe difference. (Most of this happens in the gym where none of us are wearing boots, lifts, or higher heeled shoes like a Cuban heel; so me or him wearing trainers or flat converse shoes are typical and alternate frequently).

But I like to wear cowboys in public normally or big ass boots (maybe with a lift too ;) ). Going from 50% taller than everybody to 80 or 90% is a nice harmless power trip. Haha.
RobV said on 14/Sep/14
@ Lebensdorf With regard to the confusion about exactly how much extra height you gain, I think you also have to remember it's quite difficult to exactly measure your own height and I am sure you do not go to your doc and say "measure me with and without my elevators on", adopting a similar posture!

I myself have a pair advertised as 5" (and like you I measure the lift on the boot and yep it appears to be 5") and I DO fill a 2m door frame (I'm 6'2"), so the loss of a couple of inches in actual gain does not always seem to apply. But I have noticed that wearing the boots and filling the frame really depends upon posture. Hitting a height level barefoot seems less unrelaible or varied. I cannot really explain why. And I have another similar pair of 4" elevators and yes, like you, I really do only gain, say, two-and-a-half inches. It is slightly misleading really, I guess, but of course the additional complication is the additional height from barefoot you get just by wearing shoes, up to well over an inch, maybe 1.5". So it's like there are three concepts here. The reality is surely that they do add height, and quite a bit in certain circumstances.

It might appear funny to you that guys our height do this, but working in the business I work in, I have seen all sorts of this kind of thing. Being fairly expert in it, I have for sure seen other well known tall/tallish guys who are clearly trying to get a bit more height, through slight heels and bigger boots which might even have a little lift. And just look at very tall guys listed on here (think 6'3"/6'4" Jason Momoa for example, talking about being 6'5" 'and still growing'!! A claim, made by a guy over 30 -!- designed to allow him to claim 6'6" at some point soon if he can get away with it). They all seem to add 2" to their claimed height until the height gets to 6'6", which just appears to be a sort of ideal for guys who are already really tall.

I have said this before - guys who are most impressed by my height, 6'6"ish with my biggest boots - are almost always guys who are already in the top percentiles of height, 6'2+. The comments/looks are always favourable, and it's clear that most of them think I have some sort of an advantage. We are talking straight guys here btw. Interestingly, I am not sure that, by and large, women are as impressed and awed by such heights, and neither do gay men appear to be so taken with it (sure, it's not a minus, but it is always tall straight guys who are always 'wow', like you have the latest flash car).
Lebensdorf said on 13/Sep/14
RobV, I'm 6'1 barefoot, and I can pass for 6'3 with the elevators on. I guess it's an image enhancement of sorts, but it's not major. It's weird, when I measure the lift itself, it does appear to be four inches, but the practical height yielded is quite a bit less. I think the people making the shoes should disclose this. What a funny world it is when guys in our height range wear elevator shoes.
RobV said on 10/Sep/14
@ Lebensdorf. Although I agree with you that the lift in elevators is usually less than advertised, 2.5" in your case it is still quite substantial. From memory, a 'real lift' from, say 5'9'5" to 6' takes you from being taller than about half the population to taller than 80%, depending of course where you are based.

At that level, some guys who just add an inch are amazed at first how much taller they feel. Which, given the height distribution stats, is logical because even at that low level of lift you become taller than a large % of other guys if you are average height. It really depends upon what you define as 'dramatic'. I would say going from 5'8.25" to a tad over 6' in the big boots is dramatic. I am 6'2" and wear similar ones and get to just and just 2m (a bit under 6'6").
lelman said on 9/Sep/14
Heh, legit 6'0" Rob. Do you think RDJ wears shoes similar to the ones demonstrated in that bottom pic? It actually looks quite natural until you see the boots.
[Editor Rob: his don't look quite as thick but I believe RDJ can get near 3 inches of actual height in some of the shoes he wears, and about 2.5 inches in some of the sneaker elevators he wears.]
Lebensdorf said on 9/Sep/14
I have a pair of elevator shoes. They are supposed to have an increase of 4 inches, but the lift amounts only to 2.5 inches (above my height barefoot). If we assume that the average heel is 1 inch, these shoes make me only 1.5 inches taller than I would be normally. Elevator shoes never really make you that much taller. A short guy might end up looking respectably average (by society's standards), an average guy will look tallish, but not really tall, and a tall guy will just look like a taller guy. Honestly, the difference will never be dramatic. Rob, what is the advertised lift in your Big Rob boots? They seem to make you a solid 6 feet.
[Editor Rob: they can put me at 6ft 1/8th when I measured about 5ft 8.25, just under 4 inches, I think they are advertised at 5 inches or 5.5 maybe.]
RobV said on 4/Sep/14
@ AlyD You could never in a 100 years tell these are elevators from the photographs. How much of an elevator is in these?
AlyD said on 4/Sep/14
A picture of a pair of Don's shoes being worn Click Here
RobV said on 2/Sep/14
Just a comment on a post elsewhere, where a guy says he finds it really uncomfortable to wear elevators or lifts for more than a certain amount of time (not very long!). If this is the case, then you really are doing something wrong. I wear both/either pretty much every waking hour and I have absolutely no discomfort at all, can walk easily and properly.

But you DO have to make sure that what you are doing with elevators fits the feet and (with lifts) properly fits the footwear. Lifts that are too small (I mean not wide enough, allowing space to either side) skew your posture and comfort (you tend to shift to one side or another and walk oddly), lifts that are too BIG for the particular footwear, are painful and uncomfortable. They create pressure points on top, rubbing and all the issues you get with tight footwear. Remember that when you are a size 10 and buy a size 10, it is designed to fit your foot, not to allow for something else as well like a wedge of extra other than maybe a thin insole.

I have discovered the answer to this is to buy most footwear a size or two larger than my normal size, specially if I am using lifts.

Elevators should not be uncomfortable at all as long as you get the right size, and my own view on these is that you should go for quality and get a size larger than you normally buy as well.

It is trial and error, but at the end of the day quite easy. But each different pair of shoes or boots will respond differently to lifts so it's a case of having a range of lifts and sometimes customising them yourself.
delvin said on 21/Aug/14
do elevators shoe hurt for flat feet people
RobV said on 20/Aug/14
@Finlander The great thing about the d'Etna, which I have, is that it is in a style that is generally fashionable with stuff like skinny jeans. Your shape is similar to mine, though I may now be a bit more built, but I am a bit taller 6'2" and these work well, and really no need for a leather jacket (though, yep that looks good).

Tastes vary, but based on what you told me, just look at these.

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Big boots, skinnies, not a leather jacket in sight. I have the highest lift ones and they are the only boots with serious lifts/ elevators I can comfortably wear exposed with skinnies tucked in/rolled over to show the boot, without fear that someone might realise. Reason for this is that ALL big boots look chunky in the heel area anyway. Look at the Justin Theroux shot and you'll see what I mean. All these could so easily be elevators and look similar in effect to even my highest lift d'Etnas. Sometimes fashion or trends work in your favour for adding height, and this one for big boots (all types not just Docs) is very good.

The Gran Sasso might work the same (I've looked at it and it seems good as well). Get them a size bigger than you are, just in case you wanna experiment with a half inch/inch more lift. Even if you don't, somehow it is still better to get the larger size. There are also some really cool ones on the guidomaggi.com site but they are incredibly expensive. I only recently saw these and I would say they are as a collection the elevators with the best eye to fashion on the market. I will def buy some at some point (gulp). But these particular ones of Dons are good as well.

I do suggest you get shiny and not matt, and then wear them in a bit. Let me know how you get on. By all means get in touch with me robfranklin980 @ yahoo.co.uk and I will give you more advice if you want. Or on here of course.
RobV said on 19/Aug/14
Custom elevators - does anyone know where to get really good and fashionable custom elevators made? Like a younger designer who really understands the concept and can make for that market? I have found, until relatively recently, that most firms that do custom boots and shoes generally are rather old fashioned, and certainly not for a younger market in styling.
Levi said on 14/Aug/14
Just ordered a pair of dons.
I'm around 178cm. A little less in the evening and a little more in the morning. 177cm is average where I live, but I just want a little boost to appear a little bigger.

That and having some high quality shoes being made the way you want them is always a good thing. Especially with the reasonable prices at dons. The height increase doesn't hurt either
Finlander said on 14/Aug/14
@RobV. I have a problem, It's kinda simple, I have no idea which one to order d'Etna or Gran Sasso boots (w 3.1"/8cm lifts). Also the second part of my troubles. How can I make those boots look good? I'm 18, 6ft, 82kg(200lbs is 90kg) and kinda weird mixture build guy. I mean I have long legs and wide shoulders, weird right? I wear a lot of slim fit jeans with my high top nikes and buttoned shirts. In Autumn I also wear black or brown leather jackets(slim fit also). I think with my leather jacket I have no problems wearing boots. But I don't really know how to make those boots look good with like buttoned shirts or something else. The easy solution is to wear my lift filled nikes but I want to wear my boots too. As you are a guy who knows fashion, I was kinda hoping that you would have tips how to make those boots look good without me wearing leather jackets all the time.

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