realone1 said on 19/Sep/20
@animal 176.7cm said on 19/Sep/20
I could see and argument of a 6'1 peak but I'd say 6'0.75 peak at a very hight guess more 6'0.5. This is a more reasonable guess. Lost 2 inches max. No way he lost 3 inches watcking his proportions. You can't imagine how muvch is 2 inches even tho
realone1 said on 19/Sep/20
@animal 176.7cm said on 19/Sep/20
Yes.. so what? Even seeing how compressed is is impossible he ever was 6'1.25 or 6'1.5 being nowadays 5'10.25 range because that's his real height in 2020. He is 5'10.25 and back in 2014 was 5'11. Strugging with 6'1 peak knowing this and looking at him. He still holds great.
realone1 said on 19/Sep/20
Carl Weathers peak: 185.5-185.8 cm
Arnold's peak: 184.5 cm max
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 19/Sep/20
Arnie edged out both Carl Weathers and Tom Arnold (who most agree were solid 6ft1ers themselves). Also an easy 2in Bill Paxton
Pierre said on 19/Sep/20
Hip surgery seems to me does not reduce the leg .Imo if it was the case all the people who have only one side surgery would have a leg shorter than the other that would be a problem .If my memory is good Sarah Douglas had hip surgery and she had even gain height after her surgery.
Arnold's bust was not particularly tall when he was young= here Arnold next to Chet Yorton (5"11')(Chet is the left tall guy in the pic, around same height as Arnold and standing next to him ) =
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Danimal 176.7cm said on 19/Sep/20
This was posted a few days ago by Arnold himself. It's him doing some bent over rows with a barbell and then curling the barbell. You can see when he's leaning over his truck to pull out the weight how much shorter his legs/hips are than they used to be (due to his hip replacement surgery where they cut the femur bone...same thing happened to Hogan and Lou Ferrigno). You can also see how compressed his upper body has become. A lot of spinal fusion going on. Anyway, he's the new video (uploaded by someone else):
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Danimal 176.7cm said on 18/Sep/20
viper said on 25/Aug/20
Rising, I'd be surprised If Arnold is
5-11.
Most he can be is 5-10.25-5-10.5 imo
I agree. I'm leaning more today 5'10 1/8" today.
realone1 said on 18/Sep/20
@Rob. Nobody has figured out when the are walking (1:23) right after the handshake. Carl Weathers is not standing tall there just with a relax posture while Arnold is standing tall. Arnold is closer to the camera too. What do you guess now? Some time ago I thought they were around the same height but now I'm sure Carl Weathers edged him by 1/2 or 3/4 inch.
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realone1 said on 18/Sep/20
Rob. Yesterday I watched Predator and I can confirm Arnold was slightly shorter than Carl Weathers.
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First of all when Arnold is staring at Carl he is looking higher while Carl Weather not. If you paused the video when they handshake Carl Weathers chin is higher than Arnold's (1:04) and shoulder is also higher than Arnold's. Right after that when the both walk together you can see Arnold walks standing tall while Carl Weathers is walking forward head posture and he is loosing height right there. 1:23 CarL Weathers is taller. I see his proportions longer too.
To conclude I say Carl Weathers peak was 6'1-6'1 1/8 and Arnold was over 6.0 but below 6'1. 6'0.5 max.
Alir?za said on 18/Sep/20
You are wrong. Carl Weathers was a legit strong 6'1 guy and Rob met him and can confirm and Arnold was shorter.

Editor Rob
I wouldn't have said in Carl looked taller, they seemed within same kind of range and Weathers I think was a decent 6ft 1 then.
Alir?za said on 18/Sep/20
I think he was 6'1.25 or 6'1.5
6'3 Julian said on 18/Sep/20
Arnie seems like a cool guy but even 6’1 flat seems too high for him
Jay Tu said on 18/Sep/20
He always claimed to be 6'2" when he was younger but I don't think he was.
Slim 6'1" said on 18/Sep/20
Got Bruce Willis by 2cm and Stallone by 8cm
Slim 6'1" said on 18/Sep/20
Young 184.5 like Stephen amell
Old man now 180cm
Slim 6'1" said on 17/Sep/20
Overlisted nothing above 184.5
Pierre said on 16/Sep/20
Danimal 176.7cm said on 16/Sep/20
Intevel said on 7/Sep/20
Rob, how did Arnold lose so much height? He works out. When you are strong and workout, aren't you supposed to retain more of your height?
Editor Rob
Excessive lifting puts tremendous strain on the discs and joints, so you increase chances of losing more height
He's also had hip replacement surgery, resulting in a shorter femur bone and he's had back surgery (spinal fusion), but yes, heavy weight lifting for decades does permanently compress the discs in the spinal column, as well as the other joints in the body (ankles, knees, and hips). He's also well into his 70's so there's height loss from that as well. All of that combined has resulted in his 3.5" height loss.
@Danimal = Fact is we have only a measurement on a paper with a height gauge that we don't know while we have a large number of pic of a young Arnold by the years(in his 20/30/40/50 years old)next to lots of celebrities that show Arnold a lot under this measurement.
sneak6'1 said on 16/Sep/20
Danimal 176.7cm said on 16/Sep/20
Mike Oheran has been doing so heavy exercises since he was 15 years old and he is 51 now! Dead Lifts and squats. He's been lifting 700-800 pounds for years on dead lift and just take a look at his height. He has not lose nothing!
Danimal 176.7cm said on 16/Sep/20
viper said on 25/Aug/20
The 6-1.5 measurement is legit.
Vince didn't care for him and all the guys who were measured were half an inch lower than their claim.
This measurement was at night. Arnold may have been lying down for quite a while or he doesn't shrink much at all. He does have long legs and a shorter torso.
He looks too tall to have been just 6-0.
Arnold was 6-1 Minimum
Absolutely. People don't realize how tall he was in his prime. They want to guess he wasn't taller that 6'0" range based on his current height (5'10" at best), but the reality is that he was a TALL man (between 6'1" and 6'1.75" depending on the time of day).
Danimal 176.7cm said on 16/Sep/20
Intevel said on 7/Sep/20
Rob, how did Arnold lose so much height? He works out. When you are strong and workout, aren't you supposed to retain more of your height?
Editor Rob
Excessive lifting puts tremendous strain on the discs and joints, so you increase chances of losing more height
He's also had hip replacement surgery, resulting in a shorter femur bone and he's had back surgery (spinal fusion), but yes, heavy weight lifting for decades does permanently compress the discs in the spinal column, as well as the other joints in the body (ankles, knees, and hips). He's also well into his 70's so there's height loss from that as well. All of that combined has resulted in his 3.5" height loss.
sneak6'1 said on 15/Sep/20
This listing gotta be changed! I see enough evidence about Arnold's real height and I agree. He has always been overlisted. He was 6'0-6'0.25 barefoot. Rob being honest don't you really think Arnold was shorter than 6'1? I clearly see it by photos and videos. He never was over 6'0.25 barefoot. Shoes, lifts angles tricks make the rest.
If he would look really was 6"1' we would not here to debate 6"1.5. He was below this mark without doubt.

Editor Rob
I think in Arnie's case he generally could look about 6ft 1 peak, so the measurement could always be
Busting a Gut or he had a fraction of extra height in the tank to get 6ft 1.5
Pierre said on 14/Sep/20
Click Here Arnold and The Rock both straight at 0:07 0:09 Arnold a bit closer tothe camera that is low and advantage him.Since 0:17 The Rock really shrunk to be around same height as Arnold and still is comfortably taller .
The Rock and Barack 6"1' =
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Pierre said on 14/Sep/20
6"0' max by good pics
Hong said on 13/Sep/20
Click Here Arnold and the rock.
viper said on 13/Sep/20
He was 6-1.25
6'3 Julian said on 13/Sep/20
I mean my guess would’ve been 6’0-6’0.5, 225-230 pounds peak, shorter and lighter now (maybe 5’11, 210 pounds)
6'3 Julian said on 13/Sep/20
I mean my guess would’ve been 6’0-6’0.5, 225-230 pounds peak, shorter and lighter now (maybe 5’11, 210 pounds)
sneak6'1 said on 10/Sep/20
6'3 Julian said on 9/Sep/20
Maybe yes. Probably 6'0-6.0'5 was his range. Over this range is just impossible
6'3 Julian said on 9/Sep/20
6’0.5 peak maybe?
Pierre said on 9/Sep/20
Click Here = Since 0:47 Will Smith apparently max 6"1.5' slouching a lot(neck /back) still has to looking down to talk eye in eye with Evander Hollyfield.I guess Evander around 6"0' peak
Now Arnold /Evander 1995 ,Evander with neck not perfectly straight
Click Here .By this comparisons arnold never close to will Smith's height
Click Here =1996 Eraser event
Pierre said on 8/Sep/20
@Kurzzawa=Even with a zoom I personnaly cannot guess the marks on the height gauge.If this guy competed in category under 178 then it is logically only the proof he's under 178 but not the proof he's as tall as 177.But let's say he's 177,5.In the pic next to Arnold Arnold has advantageous hairs and to me stands straighter than this guy,Arnold only tilt his head here so does not lose lots of height compared to the guy who seems to me slouching a bit with his bust/neck and his legs not perfectly straight .
Intevel said on 7/Sep/20
Rob, how did Arnold lose so much height? He works out. When you are strong and workout, aren't you supposed to retain more of your height?

Editor Rob
Excessive lifting puts tremendous strain on the discs and joints, so you increase chances of losing more height
Kurzzawa said on 7/Sep/20
Rob, this picture
Click Here was taken 2014 in Finland and that left guy is exactly 5'10. Proof:
Click Here (seems to be slightly under 178 cm when u zoom.
Click Here This article shows that this left guy competes under 178 cm series in fitness competition. So there is the proof that this left guy is 177,7-177,8 so even with bad camera angle Arnold seems to be 5'11 in 2014. But case is in 2020 i think he has lost at least a fraction. Maybe 5'10.5 Rob today?

Editor Rob
I think he was still a bit over 5ft 11 7-8 years ago. Today, well he's holding onto 5ft 11, but sometimes can look between 5ft 10-11 range. But as I always say, looking and measuring can sometimes throw up the odd surprise.
sneak6'1 said on 7/Sep/20
Slim 6'1" said on 7/Sep/20
Yes I agree you. I guess Rob's goes higher because is a 5'8 guy. A legit 6'0 6'1 guy can see Arnold was shorter than what Rob guess.
Arnold was about 183-184 not taller. This is obvious to the eye.
Pierre said on 29/Aug/20
If he would look really 6"1' we would not here to debate this 6"1.5
You just said my thoughs. I personally think Arnold was a strong 6'0 man 183 range is ok.
186 and 187 is really too high and never looked this height. The most he has looked is 6'1.5 range with boots in Terminator. He always been a strong 6'0 guy
Slim 6'1" said on 7/Sep/20
186-187 is way too high, he should be getting 184-185 guesses. Lou Ferrigno edged him by 2 inches minimum and he’s not that much taller than Bruce Willis
Pierre said on 5/Sep/20
@Alir?Za =Fact is Jai Courtney next to Bruce Willis and Sebastian Koch never looks close to 6"1' in this pics.And Jason Clarke in fact looks shorter than Jai in your pic.Cow By boots give you imo easily more than only a centimeter on classic shoes= classic shoes around 2.5 centimeters Cow boy boots no less than 4 centimeters
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 5/Sep/20
Rob, what are chances that he was 6ft1 peak?
I think it’s too low

Editor Rob
It would be the lowest I'd go for him, but generally 6ft 1 up to 1.5 I think anywhere in that range is possible.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 5/Sep/20
Slim, Arnold peak would easily edge out Amell
Josey Wales said on 5/Sep/20
Saw an interisting you tube clip interview with former pro wrestler Super Star Billy Graham. He talks very fondly of Arnold and clearly has a lot of respect for him. They trained together late 69s and early 70s. When asked how tall Arnold was he said "oh,oh Arnold was 5'11". Personally I think he could've been a solid 6 foot. But a statement like that from a man who clearly talks very highly of Arnold goes along way.
Pierre said on 4/Sep/20
Current around 5"10.25' Peak around 5"11.5'/5"11.75' .
Slim 6'1" said on 3/Sep/20
He wouldn’t edge Stephen amell young, really strong guy 👍
saba said on 3/Sep/20
his peak is flat 188 i think, but now? 180 is to low man, he is probably peak of 5'11
Pierre said on 3/Sep/20
Click Here = here is Jai Courtney left guy closer to the camera than max 5"11' Bruce Willis and Sebastian Koch listed 5"11.5'.Then I really doubt this guy is close to 6"1'
Click Here = three guys about same distance to the camera
In the pic of Alir?za Arnold to me wear cow boy boots that give him an advantage plus stand closer to the camera
Here is Jai Courtney around same distance to the camera and slouching a bit /Arnold cow boy shoes
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Hotpots said on 30/Aug/20
Peak 6.0-5. Now around 5-10.75
Pierre said on 29/Aug/20
If he would look really 6"1' we would not here to debate this 6"1.5' measure but this is clearly not the case by lots of comparisons.
Hong said on 28/Aug/20
@Frank Col.Your theory is not beyond the realms of possibility,I often think about that, it would explain all of these shrinking Celebs.
DarkPower729 said on 27/Aug/20
Arnold always looked like a tall, domineering figure in his youth up until near the end of his governorship. He was measured by Vince Basile, a man who never cared for Arnold, as 6’1.5” (186.7cm). This would fit into the perception of how Arnold came across and I imagine that was a morning/afternoon height. He’d probably dip down to 6’1” (185.4cm) at night and wake up around the 6’1.625” (187cm) mark and just round his claim up to 6’2”. In my view he should never have claimed more than 6’1.5” and he’s certainly nowhere near as tall now even if he’s above average in height. I think he dips down to around 5’11” (180.3cm) and starts off the day around 5’11.75” (182.2cm). I think a flat 5’11” listing now is too low, 5’11.25” might be more fair.
Frank Col said on 27/Aug/20
"Big" Arnie was never taller than 5ft 11 at his peak and was a big lift wearer that saw him shoot up to 6ft 2 on occasion. Just like Dolph Lundgren (never more than 6ft 2) he got away with outrageous claims about his height because all the 80s action heroes were little guys who lied about their height. It creates a knock on effect - if 5ft 7 Stallone was claiming 5ft 10 Arnie is obliged to do the same. I have met Richard E Grant and he is definitely 6ft 2. I saw a picture of him next to Arnie (who had suspect footwear) and Grant was 3 inches taller. 5ft 11 at his peak, as low as 5ft 10 now.
Hong said on 27/Aug/20
Click Here Slys lifts make it almost impossible to use him as a template to compare height.
Canson said on 26/Aug/20
@Viper: I could buy a solid 6’1” peak which is where I have Arnold but just because he didn’t like him is not a good enough reason. People here equate saying someone is shorter than they are or thinking it simply because they don’t like someone when the two have nothing to do with one another
Pierre said on 26/Aug/20
viper said on 25/Aug/20
The 6-1.5 measurement is legit.
Vince didn't care for him and all the guys who were measured were half an inch lower than their claim.
This measurement was at night. Arnold may have been lying down for quite a while or he doesn't shrink much at all. He does have long legs and a shorter torso.
He looks too tall to have been just 6-0.
Arnold was 6-1 Minimum
Assumption = this height gauge was in fact generous =as I said recently I imagine if some of this bodybuilders were measured on this height gauge,even if the result was half an inch under their official height,by considering some of this bodybuilders had apparently their official height generally easily more generous than only half an inch then they were still happy with the measurement on this height gauge.
Here the link of a guy who met Sergio in the 80s (Sergio listed 5"10' /5"11' in some magazines) the guy explain he was very surprised when he met him and guess him around 5"8' (even 5"7' in a comment of the same guy in the forum )=
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Example (assumption) = a bodybuilder listed 5"10' official height
Real height = 5"8'
Measurement on a generous height gauge = 5"9.5' = the guy can still be happy with the 5"9.5' measurement.
Lou Ferrigno listed 6"5' in web = here wearing very probably advantageous mask plus toupee (
Click Here Click Here ) next to Manny Perry listed 6"2' =
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next to Dick Durock listed 6"5.5' /6"6' =
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next to John Larroquette listed 6"4' =
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Arnold /Lou =
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I guess again max 6"0'
viper said on 25/Aug/20
Rising, I'd be surprised If Arnold is
5-11.
Most he can be is 5-10.25-5-10.5 imo
viper said on 25/Aug/20
Arnold's 6-1.5 listing is more legit that Jay Z's and definitely over
LL Cool J
viper said on 25/Aug/20
The 6-1.5 measurement is legit.
Vince didn't care for him and all the guys who were measured were half an inch lower than their claim.
This measurement was at night. Arnold may have been lying down for quite a while or he doesn't shrink much at all. He does have long legs and a shorter torso.
He looks too tall to have been just 6-0.
Arnold was 6-1 Minimum
Hong said on 25/Aug/20
Click Here @pierre here's Sly with 6ft4 peak Tom Selleck,lifts?Sly is famous for them.
Hong said on 25/Aug/20
Click Here @ Pieree,what about this pic of Clint with Sly and Oliver Stone,Clint standing straight looks an easy 6ft2 in comparison,in fact you could even argue 6ft2.75 for Clint.Clint can drop a lot of height depending on posture,also sly probly had a bit of a boost in his shoes.As for Arnold he was probly 6 ft.75 peak and 6ft2 or a bit more depending what footwear he was wearing.Bridges height is inconsistent I'm not sure about him.
Rising174cm said on 24/Aug/20
Arnold did look 6'1.5" enough for me to believe Basille measured him at that, but there are other times when he didn't look taller than 6'1" flat. It's plausible he was more like 186 cm peak and wasn't at his low during the measurement despite it being in the evening or there was a small margin of error. I'd be surprised if he wasn't still at least a full 5'11", though.
Pierre said on 22/Aug/20
Probably end of the 80s or start of the 90' Arnold and Spiros Bournazos 6"1.5'=
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1988 Arnold with advantageous big hairs and Yuri Vlasov ex professional powerlifter 6"1' peak ,not perfectly straight in the pic ,both same distance to camera =
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1985 Commando at 15 seconds ,Charles Meschack 6"4' remove his hat =
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1976 Arnold/Jeff Bridges =
Click Here 1982 = Jeff Bridges /Bruce Boxleitner 6"2' =
Click Here 1993 Jeff Bridges /Gary Busey 6"0'
Click Here 2000= Jeff Bridges Sam Elliot 6"2' =
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viper said on 21/Aug/20
Arnold looks 6-2 with Reeve
Pierre said on 21/Aug/20
Alir?za said on 19/Aug/20
Clint Eastwood, Arnold Sven ole Thorsen. Probably at 80's. Clint was probably still 6'2-6'3 at this picture
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Another photo of Clint and Arnold. Clint look slightly taller than Arnold like 0.5 inches. Clint was probably at least 6'2 at this photo
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This pic with Arnold Sven and Clint is clearly not in the 1980s to me, more in the middle of the 90 s .Here is Arnold and Sven in 1988 =
Click Here they are looking easily younger in this one than in Alirza's pic
6'4'' Guy! said on 20/Aug/20
Clint Eastwood young: 189.5cm / 190cm
Arnold Schwarzenegger young: 185.5cm / 186cm
Pierre said on 20/Aug/20
Alir?za said on 19/Aug/20
Clint Eastwood, Arnold Sven ole Thorsen. Probably at 80's. Clint was probably still 6'2-6'3 at this picture
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Another photo of Clint and Arnold. Clint look slightly taller than Arnold like 0.5 inches. Clint was probably at least 6'2 at this photo
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Click Here = 1995 Clint Eastwood closer to the camera /Sylvester =if Clint was 6"2' range this period (so around 6"3' in shoes) this means Sylvester was around 6"1' in shoes....I can understand Sly had some help but....
Click Here = here again Sly /Clint Eastwood plus Gerard Depardieu listed 5"10.75' sleeping on Clint and so shrunk a lot.Clint was never close to 6"2' here by both comparisons
About Sly = here is young Sly supposed 5"9' peak next to Pelé =
Click Here ( Sly each time with advantageous hairs )
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Now Pelé next to Eusebio 5"9'( with short hairs) =
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Click Here =Eusebio next to Geoff Hurst 5"11' peak
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Pierre said on 17/Aug/20
@ 6"4' guy= Christopher Reeve isn't straight here ,Arnold Christopher Reeve standing straighter =
Click Here Christopher has to looking down to talk to Arnold and Arnold has to looking up.
Lol houss,fact is Arnold next to Sven Ole Thorsen does not look as tall as Michael Caine and John Mc Ginley 6"1' .... I can not see a 6"2' guy when the guy is max 6"0'....
6'4'' Guy! said on 15/Aug/20
Manute Bol, Christopher Reeve and Arnold Schwarzenegger in 1986.
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Pierre said on 15/Aug/20
Peter Kent and Sven Ole Thorsen max 6"3' peak barefoot to me
houss said on 15/Aug/20
@Alir?za , my friend don't waist your time with @pierre because he don't believe that 6'2 men exist
Pierre said on 12/Aug/20
Click Here Sven Ole Thorsen and an old Oliver Reed listed 5"11'
A young Oliver Reed and Keith Moon 5"8'
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Hotpots said on 10/Aug/20
Watching Conan the Destroyer and imo he’s good 6-0 guy. Doesn’t ever look 6-2 in this film.
Alir?za said on 10/Aug/20
Click Here
Arnold and sven ole Thorsen(6'4.5). At starting of video, two guys are barefoot. Arnold doesn't look to too short next to him
Alir?za said on 10/Aug/20
Arnold and 6'4.5 sven hole thormes
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Arnold and his stuntman Peter Kent 6'4
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This guys are very tall. If Arnold was 6 ft, these guys would make him look like a dwarf. I think 6'1.5 was good for him, lowest 6'1.25 for young arnold
Pierre said on 10/Aug/20
houss said on 8/Aug/20
Evander is closer to the camera , you don't even understand what "closer to th camera" mean hhhh , they were the same height
I've read a comment of an old man who use to train in golds gym back in the 70's he said that he's 6ft tall and arnold was about 1 inch and something taller than him @pierre you need help
lol Houss of course Arnold stand closer to the camera his head looks bigger than evander's head ,here their heads when both are around same distance to the camera=
Click Here .The reason is= in the 1996 pic Evander slouch on the opposite side of the camera that explain why his left shoulder stand higher than his right shoulder,and finally Arnold has an advantage
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It's not me who need help Houss (lol)
Pierre said on 10/Aug/20
Alir?za said on 9/Aug/20
Click Here
I think that is good photograph. Two men's chin and eyes at the same level. The distance to the camera is the same. Both guy have very similar height
Evander isn't straight here,his head a lot in front of his shoulders and body and his head tilting on the side of the camera.Arnold sometimes wear cowboy boots in events .
Blanc said on 9/Aug/20
How tall is Roelly Winklaar?
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Don't know if he's barefoot

Editor Rob
I don't think he's shorter than 5ft 6 there with a 2018 5ft 11 range Arnie
Hotpots said on 9/Aug/20
Next to Lewis Hamilton he looks under 5-11.
Alex 6'0 said on 8/Aug/20
I still feel he was likely 6'1 flat at peak but certainly not over. 6'0.5 lowest i could argue
houss said on 8/Aug/20
Evander is closer to the camera , you don't even understand what "closer to th camera" mean hhhh , they were the same height
I've read a comment of an old man who use to train in golds gym back in the 70's he said that he's 6ft tall and arnold was about 1 inch and something taller than him @pierre you need help
Slim 6'1" said on 8/Aug/20
184.8 max as tall as carrey and robin thicke is fantasy hes not a legit 6'1 hes just a strong 6'
TheBat said on 7/Aug/20
Arnold today is 5'11" at most.
Pierre said on 7/Aug/20
Alir?za =
Click Here here both similar shoes ,Arnold closer to the camera, Evander zero hairs looks easily same height as Arnold's top of hairs.
Slim 6'1" said on 5/Aug/20
Pierre , 183.5 is the lowest I’d argue for Arnie, but I’ve got him set at 184-184.5
Alir?za said on 5/Aug/20
He looked very similar height with evander holyfield at 1996. Evander is listed 6'1.25 inches and probably it is right. He is noticibally taller than Mike tyson. Like 3 inches.So I don't think Arnold was shorter than 6 ft at until early 2000's
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Pierre said on 4/Aug/20
In the good pics /neutral angles max 6"0' peak.
Swede2 said on 3/Aug/20
What you guys think about 178cm peak?, wich I read he was measured at in the army in Austria. And 176cm today?. My grandfather is 85yo he is today 177cm and was peak 179cm. He also whey about 200lbs so he has not shrank so much.
Slim 6'1" said on 3/Aug/20
Could be 181 cm today
cris_cro said on 2/Aug/20
He looked to many times just a 6ft1 guy to ignore this. 6ft1.5 maybe a couple of hours after sleep
Slim 6'1" said on 1/Aug/20
Solid 6’1” is over listed he was 184.5 6’0.75” at best
Slim 6'1" said on 31/Jul/20
184 when young, 180-181 now
Hulk.23 said on 31/Jul/20
Is the best mistery on this site. Sincerely (considering he was usual to wear thick shoes or boots) he looked to me a strong 6’1/185cm guy, but according to rob we cannot consider the letter written by Vince Basile which stated he was measured at 6’1.5/187cm in 1969. We need however to consider that Basile is a friend of Arnie and I think Arnie usually got hungry if people though he was short so I can even think the letter is a sort of present from Vince to his friend Arnie...today no doubt he’s max 5’11/180cm...
Keith Bacchus said on 30/Jul/20
6 foot 2
Sunjay said on 30/Jul/20
5’10” maybe
+2” with his hair combed back.
+2/3“ with shoes and insoles.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 30/Jul/20
🎁💪🎂🎉 Happy Birthday Arnie! 🎉🎂💪🎁
A Very Happy Birthday to Arnold Schwarzenegger, who celebrates the 73rd anniversary of the day he popped into the world. 👶 I watched him in a film called 'The Sixth Day' on Monday, shown on The Horror Channel. It's well worth checking out, folks!
I'm going for 6ft1.75 for Arnie's peak and 5ft11.75 for today's height. I must admit that even my Mum remarked upon his sensational stature when I showed her 'T2'. She said, "You get so excited when you show me a film!" Happy memories never leave you....😁
Have a great family day with Maria and your five children, dear Arnie! XXX 🌹
🎁💪🎂🎉🎁💪🎂🎊🎁💪🎂🎉🎁💪🎂🎊
Hotpots said on 29/Jul/20
Not over 6-1 prime imo
Pierre said on 29/Jul/20
RapidOh said on 27/Jul/20
Obviously when you are younger and active with all the energy in the world. He could've been 6'2. When people get older your body tends to shrunk. He could now be much shorter because of his age. So it is possible that he is not as tall as he use to. Read people read
@RapidOh = but in his 19 he was around same height as Chet Yorton 5"11' ,and around his 25 he was three good inches shorter than Lou Ferrigno ...
RapidOh said on 27/Jul/20
Obviously when you are younger and active with all the energy in the world. He could've been 6'2. When people get older your body tends to shrunk. He could now be much shorter because of his age. So it is possible that he is not as tall as he use to. Read people read
Crab said on 27/Jul/20
Genuinely struggles to look even 5'11" these days. It's weird how compact he can look considering the huge impression he gave off in his youth.
Alex Italy said on 25/Jul/20
186 187 cm is the perfect guess, you are tall but not so tall that you always look towering. You can often find people taller or on par with you but most of the times you are the taller one. Because of the footwear you can look the same height of people who are 183 to 185 cm
I really think Arnold was 186 or 187 in his prime, 6'1 and 1/2, rounded up to 6'2 by Basile.
Swede2 said on 24/Jul/20
I just dont belevie he shrank almost 7cm wich is more then 2,5 inch. That just sounds way to much especially for his height and he dont have that bad posture either. I think he was 6foot max peak(maybe only 178cm today. And if you look at bmi it just dont make sense he was ever over 6foot and that big at only about 105kg.
viper said on 21/Jul/20
I can buy 6-1.5 morning/out of bed
Hotpots said on 20/Jul/20
6.0-5 peak. Now 5-10.5 imo
Eagleye said on 19/Jul/20
His 6'1 3/4 claim is because is practically 6'2 and because he mentioned his shrink. At worst, he had to say about 1 inch because he lost a lot of height.
Original said on 18/Jul/20
6'0.5" peak and 5'10.5" nowadays.
Miiiiiiiighty_- said on 17/Jul/20
I think odds are 187 was his prime shoe height.
I don't think anyone serious is buying this 187 BS claim anymore, it just doesn't make any sense, especially if you compare him to Lou in Pumping Iron.
Most of the Predator crew was taller than him too.
Absolute best case scenario for him is 6'1 in his prime.
Kurtz said on 13/Jul/20
@Keith Bacchus
6 foot 2 spot on as perfect inflate
A182Guy said on 13/Jul/20
I’ve met him in person i am 5’11 5/8 inches and he was almost an inch shorter than me even though he had 1/4 More sneaker than me.
Keith Bacchus said on 10/Jul/20
6 foot 2 spot on
Pierre said on 7/Jul/20
Brigitte Nielsen straight here?! ... lol Brigitte is not the boy you see in the pic ! ...
Pierre said on 7/Jul/20
Richie said on 3/Jul/20
@Pierre. Ken Waller was a strong 5'11" but was rounded to 6'as was just short of. It's states that height on his official web page.
Click Here here you can see Ken Waller and Dave Draper(the guy who looks 5"10' range next to Max Bear Junior).Ken stand very probably a bit closer to the camera but not more distant to the camera than Dave .By this comparison I never buy a strong 5"11' ,big max strong 5"10'
houss said on 5/Jul/20
holyman175 said on 2/Jul/20
Pierre said on 24/Jun/20
You need glasses man. Arnold is clearly 2 cm taller than Brigitte Nielsen. Look at the flor and the angle. Look Arnold's eyes and nose and top of his head. And imagine both with the same posture: Arnold edges Brigitte Nielsen. Arnold is 184-185 peak and Brigitte 182-183. You are a downgrader:
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viper said on 5/Jul/20
So he was measured at 6-1.75 and 6-1.5
Pierre said on 5/Jul/20
Alir?za said on 2/Jul/20
Jay79 said on 29/Jun/20
Arnold was measured by musclemag at 6'1.75" they rounded up to 6'2" to make it easier in print. Vince Basille who has no reason to lie for arnold and has bad feeling towards him also measured him about the same, so that should put it to bed really. Photos mean nothing, I can stand a certain way at 5'10 and look similar in height to my 5'7" gf. Posture means alot, sometimes arnold slumps and other times with good posture he looks significantly taller. Arnold himself also has said he's 6ft now and stated 5 inches shorter than manganiello
Certainly, Photos can be misleading. I am 6'3 but at some group photo, I look same height as 6'1 guys.
Yes very possible= depending if you stand in relaxed posture,the shoes, if 6"1' guys are standing a bit closer to the camera,if the camera is a bit low ...lots of parameters in fact.a 6"1' guy a bit closer to the camera can sometimes look same height if the camera is a bit low.Also depending if you're more a weak or a strong 6"3' and same thing for the 6"1' guys.
Pierre said on 5/Jul/20
holyman175 said on 2/Jul/20
Pierre said on 24/Jun/20
You need glasses man. Arnold is clearly 2 cm taller than Brigitte Nielsen. Look at the flor and the angle. Look Arnold's eyes and nose and top of his head. And imagine both with the same posture: Arnold edges Brigitte Nielsen. Arnold is 184-185 peak and Brigitte 182-183. You are a downgrader:
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Lol you don't take in consideration Brigitte's poor posture very relaxed while Arnold stand straight! If the pic is inclined ,by the lines in the floor Arnold is the one who has an advantage here!If I'm a downgrader then you're an upgrader lol
Richie said on 3/Jul/20
@Pierre. Ken Waller was a strong 5'11" but was rounded to 6'as was just short of. It's states that height on his official web page.
Richie said on 3/Jul/20
Arnie's peak height was a strong 6'1" but is barely 6' these days. He edged Carl Weathers in Predator but is slightly shorter than him today, of course movies aren't always an accurate interpretation of a persons height what with lifts etc but he was certainly over 6' during his prime..
Alir?za said on 2/Jul/20
Jay79 said on 29/Jun/20
Arnold was measured by musclemag at 6'1.75" they rounded up to 6'2" to make it easier in print. Vince Basille who has no reason to lie for arnold and has bad feeling towards him also measured him about the same, so that should put it to bed really. Photos mean nothing, I can stand a certain way at 5'10 and look similar in height to my 5'7" gf. Posture means alot, sometimes arnold slumps and other times with good posture he looks significantly taller. Arnold himself also has said he's 6ft now and stated 5 inches shorter than manganiello
Certainly, Photos can be misleading. I am 6'3 but at some group photo, I look same height as 6'1 guys.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 2/Jul/20
Rob, does Arnold’s 6ft1¾ claim carry any validity?

Editor Rob
Busting a gut?
Pierre said on 1/Jul/20
@Jay79 = ...Or maybe the height gauge was standing in bad posture.About postures = Brigitte Nielsen clearly stands in relaxed posture while Arnold stand particularly straight and looks just a bit taller than her .Arnold and Lou barefoot regular floor both standing in exactly same posture(imposed bodybuilding postures) same distance to camera Arnold's eye is big max same height as Lou's mouth ,no less than 3 inches shorter than him.All this guys listed 6"5'/6"6'/6"4' next to Lou are more or less taller than Lou and show each time Lou shorter,around 6"3' mark,same thing with his 6"2' stunt double looking just a bit shorter than him and Lou probably wear a factice big forehead plus toupee above.Arnold next to Chet Yorton 5"11' is maybe not perfectly straight but Chet Yorton isn't perfectly straight too and both are looking very similar Arnold maybe half an inch taller.Several pics and comparisons show the same thing.A 187 guy or around this mark has to be in a terrible posture to look a weak 6"0' in pics ,but I never see this terrible posture.Next to Dave Draper Arnold maybe shrunk a bit but you can see Dave isn't perfectly straight,he's the only guy here who bends his knee and pelvis in relaxed posture.About Dave Draper next to Max Baer Junior = Later in the video we can see Max's shoe and he has only soles(no heels) then maybe a fraction more shoe ,and the tip of his nose looks comfortably as high as Dave's top of head.By this comparison Dave is never even close to 6"0'mark, more 5"10' /5"10.5'= a 6"0' guy next to a 6"4' guy looks only a forehead shorter.Arnold never looks 6"1.5', even by imagining Dave 5"11'...
Jay79 said on 29/Jun/20
Arnold was measured by musclemag at 6'1.75" they rounded up to 6'2" to make it easier in print. Vince Basille who has no reason to lie for arnold and has bad feeling towards him also measured him about the same, so that should put it to bed really. Photos mean nothing, I can stand a certain way at 5'10 and look similar in height to my 5'7" gf. Posture means alot, sometimes arnold slumps and other times with good posture he looks significantly taller. Arnold himself also has said he's 6ft now and stated 5 inches shorter than manganiello
Pierre said on 26/Jun/20
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 24/Jun/20
185cm is too low for his peak. Easily 186-187cm range in Pumping Iron and Hercules. Edges out Reg Park and Mike Katz (both 6ft1)
Reg Park was supposed 6"1' and Arnold does not edge him out
Click Here Click Here = in this pic the middle guy is Dave Draper supposed 6"0' .....here at 2:42 /2:43
Click Here he's standing next to Max Baer Jr listed 6"4',he' s same height as the top of his nose...Arnold looks about an inch taller than him.
jano said on 24/Jun/20
Shrinking 7 cms at his age seems a bit too much, 182 cm now IMO.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 24/Jun/20
185cm is too low for his peak. Easily 186-187cm range in Pumping Iron and Hercules. Edges out Reg Park and Mike Katz (both 6ft1)
Pierre said on 24/Jun/20
@Alir?za
Click Here here Arnold in very good posture Brigitte tilting her head while Arnold's head is looking up , generous space between her own feet ,plus watch the angle of her left foot(the most distant to the camera) =nearly 90 degrees to her right foot plus camber looking exaggerated =to me one more time she really shrunk here and Arnold in his advantageous posture looks just a bit taller than her.
Click Here here a pic again inwich we can see the type of slim sole she was wearing in this movie.Imo hard to wear slimer sole than hers.
There was a good pic in web inwich we could clearly see her sole = she had not even a little heel only a slim sole.
houss said on 24/Jun/20
@rob , how tall do you think Arnold youngest son is , i think he may be 6'3
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Editor Rob
Haven't seen enough of him
Alir?za said on 23/Jun/20
Pierre said on 21/Jun/20
Alir?za said on 20/Jun/20
I believe he was taller than 185 cm, and his height was probably 186-187 cm maybe solid 187 cm when he was 20's. But he has really very bad genes, he has losted solid at least 7 cm. Probably he has massive osteoporoz and kyphos.
Next to Brigitte Nielsen 6"0' (1985) Brigitte relaxed posture (legs/neck),(pic inclined in favor to Arnold by the lines in the floor) Arnold looks max similar height as her ,I doubt he shrunk before his 40 Click Here
Here (1966) at 19 next to Chet Yorton 5"11'(left guy next to Arnold on the pic) =both are looking very similar heights Click Here .
I never see 6"1' or above here.
I posted recently pic Arnold/Lou same posture ( around 1975 )Arnold looks at least 3 inches shorter than Lou .A young Lou looks maybe 6"3' next to his stuntdouble 6"2' (Hulk)
Yes he look really same height next to brigitte Nielson. But maybe she wearing big shoes . But I am sure Lou ferrigno wasn't shorter than 6'4 in his peak. Because he look still 6'3 inches. Maybe 6'2.5 but not shorten than that is
But yes Arnold's peak height could be anywhere 6-6'1. But I still think his peak height was a little taller than 185 cm
viper said on 22/Jun/20
Better chance Arnold is 6-1 than a guy like LL Cool J imo
Pierre said on 22/Jun/20
@Shannon =
Click Here Click Here Ken Waller 6"0' ?He's around same height as Joe Weider 5"10' peak and around 60 years old here and very probably has shrunk here...
houss said on 21/Jun/20
Guys , do not pay attention to the "180cm 180cm" peak sayers , just ignore them
Pierre said on 21/Jun/20
madhair said on 19/Jun/20
Pierre said on 18/Jun/20
Your photos doesn't mean nothing.. You can't see footwear and floor. Relity is this:
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That's is the proof. knowing Rob is 173 cm Lou looks at least 189-190.0 cm. He looks to be in his 50'-60's so add 1 to 2 cm to his peak height. Lou was at least 191 cm peak maybe 192. Arnold was 7-8 cm shorter so Arnold was at least 184 cm.
Your guess is just a joke
Lol in the pic Arnold /Lou we can see both are barefeet .In the pic Lou /Adrian Paul we can see the shoes .In the video Lou /John Larroquette we can see Lou wear shoes at around 0:18 =
Click Here ...Pic Lou and his stuntdouble = we can see both are wearing similar shoes ..... Here are Dick Durock's shoes in Hulk =
Click Here similar to Lou's shoes....Lol I doubt he exchanges his shoes for cow boy boots only for this famous pic....
Pierre said on 21/Jun/20
Alir?za said on 20/Jun/20
I believe he was taller than 185 cm, and his height was probably 186-187 cm maybe solid 187 cm when he was 20's. But he has really very bad genes, he has losted solid at least 7 cm. Probably he has massive osteoporoz and kyphos.
Next to Brigitte Nielsen 6"0' (1985) Brigitte relaxed posture (legs/neck),(pic inclined in favor to Arnold by the lines in the floor) Arnold looks max similar height as her ,I doubt he shrunk before his 40
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Here (1966) at 19 next to Chet Yorton 5"11'(left guy next to Arnold on the pic) =both are looking very similar heights
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I never see 6"1' or above here.
I posted recently pic Arnold/Lou same posture ( around 1975 )Arnold looks at least 3 inches shorter than Lou .A young Lou looks maybe 6"3' next to his stuntdouble 6"2' (Hulk)
houss said on 21/Jun/20
Shannon said on 20/Jun/20
I saw Arnold compete in several MR. Olympias and Mr. Worlds in Columbus in mid 70's. On stage and watching him as he strolled through the crowd told me he was definitely several inches over 6'. I also trained in the same gym with Ken Waller at about the same time and he was definitely a 6 footer. I saw a picture of Waller behind Arnold in this forum and they look to be the same size. So, I believe Arnold to be around 6'2 when in his mid 20's
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madhair said on 21/Jun/20
Reality:Arnold's peak 6'0.25 Lou 6'3.25
Pierre said on 20/Jun/20
@Shannon = Arnold's peak 6"2' or 6"1.5' is a non sense,Arnold 6"1.5' 6"2' peak would means Lou's peak was at least 6"4.5' /6"5' ...
Alir?za said on 20/Jun/20
I believe he was taller than 185 cm, and his height was probably 186-187 cm maybe solid 187 cm when he was 20's. But he has really very bad genes, he has losted solid at least 7 cm. Probably he has massive osteoporoz and kyphos.
Alir?za said on 20/Jun/20
I believe he was taller than 185 cm, and his height was probably 186-187 cm maybe solid 187 cm when he was 20's. But he has really very bad genes, he has losted solid at least 7 cm. Probably he has massive osteoporoz and kyphos.
Shannon said on 20/Jun/20
I saw Arnold compete in several MR. Olympias and Mr. Worlds in Columbus in mid 70's. On stage and watching him as he strolled through the crowd told me he was definitely several inches over 6'. I also trained in the same gym with Ken Waller at about the same time and he was definitely a 6 footer. I saw a picture of Waller behind Arnold in this forum and they look to be the same size. So, I believe Arnold to be around 6'2 when in his mid 20's
Pierre said on 19/Jun/20
Mhmdltyf said on 18/Jun/20
Arnold and 183 boyko borisov
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Arnold stand closer to the camera here plus camera is low that advantage him.Is the guy still 183 by the years?
madhair said on 19/Jun/20
Pierre said on 18/Jun/20
Your photos doesn't mean nothing.. You can't see footwear and floor. Relity is this:
Click Here
That's is the proof. knowing Rob is 173 cm Lou looks at least 189-190.0 cm. He looks to be in his 50'-60's so add 1 to 2 cm to his peak height. Lou was at least 191 cm peak maybe 192. Arnold was 7-8 cm shorter so Arnold was at least 184 cm.
Your guess is just a joke
Alex 6'0 said on 19/Jun/20
Viper i agree on 6'1 peak but the 6'1.5 measurement how official was that?
Pierre said on 18/Jun/20
madhair said on 17/Jun/20
P?erre said on 15/Jun/20
Wrong. Lou was a strong 191. Just look at him on celebs. That's the proof. 193 is maybe too high.
Lou 191.5 cm and Arnold 184 cm
7.5 cm between them
I odn't understand where your proof .
Click Here Lou next to John Larroquette isn't looking a strong 191 ,if it was the case he would look nearly same height as John but Lou has to looking up to talk to a John not even perfectly straight. And watch their shoulders,John's shoulders tower over Lou's shoulders.No less than 3 cm here imo even with a slim difference of shoes(only a supposition)
Click Here Next to Adrian Paul 6"0', Adrian isn't even straight,in very relax posture with hands a lot in his pockets ,the neck not straight = his eyes still are comfortably same height as Lou 's mouth (by considering the pic inclined in favour to Lou) while Arnold this time in same posture as Lou has his mouth hardly same height as Lou's mouth =
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Click Here A young Lou next to Dick Durock nearly 50 years old here listed 6"5.5' 6"6' looks easily three inches shorter .
Click Here Next to his stunt double listed 6"2' he looks around a good inch taller but eventually wear a long fake forehead plus a toupee over his real hairs=
Click Here ...
Mhmdltyf said on 18/Jun/20
Arnold and 183 boyko borisov
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Canson said on 18/Jun/20
@Viper: my guess is 6’1” peak too
Alir?za said on 17/Jun/20
I am sure his young height was anywhere 185-187 cm. I can't see below 185 cm. But now his height could be 179-180 cm.
madhair said on 17/Jun/20
P?erre said on 15/Jun/20
Wrong. Lou was a strong 191. Just look at him on celebs. That's the proof. 193 is maybe too high.
Lou 191.5 cm and Arnold 184 cm
7.5 cm between them
madhair said on 17/Jun/20
Mhmdmahmoud853 said on 15/Jun/20 This is more realistic than your guess please. Loosing cm by years like math? You start loosing faster and more when you are older.
Arnold in 1969 = 184 cm
1999 = 183 cm
2005= 181 cm
2015=179 range
2020= 178 range weak 179
This is more ralistic please
viper said on 17/Jun/20
I'd bet money he was 6-1
His 6-1.5 measurement, in which the measuring device measured everyone a half an inch shorter than their claim gives some credibility imo
santgr said on 16/Jun/20
Rob how tall would be prime Arnold by night? 186 cm or shorter?

Editor Rob
The lowest I'd ever argue would be 6ft 1 with the highest 6ft 1.5
P?erre said on 15/Jun/20
Mhmdmahmoud853 said on 15/Jun/20
Arnie's height by years
1969 = 186-7 cm
1979 -185-6
1985 ..184
1999 ..183
2008 ..182
2011...181
2015 . 180
2020...179
Arnold in around 1975 was looking around 8 cms shorter than Lou Ferrigno by good pic.A young Lou Ferrigno at around 30 years old looks around 190 next to Manny Perry /John Larroquette/Dick Durock.Again in his 43 next to Adrian Paul not even perfectly straight.Then a peak at 185 seems to myself too high for Arnold.
madhair said on 15/Jun/20
@Rob Lifting weights is not a reason on losing height. It's a benefit so keep joints and bones strong. A 40 year old man can't lose height if is not something really bad. Arnold was always a healthy guy.
Mhmdmahmoud853 said on 15/Jun/20
Are youi kidding? by 32 years old Arnold losing 1 cm? Maybe at 50 please
Mhmdmahmoud853 said on 15/Jun/20
Arnie's height by years
1969 = 186-7 cm
1979 -185-6
1985 ..184
1999 ..183
2008 ..182
2011...181
2015 . 180
2020...179
madhair said on 13/Jun/20
@Rob comparing photos of Arnold and James I just find there 3 to 4 cm difference between them. It's math. Arnold need to be downgrade. How about 6'1? Any chance you do it? So many people agree he was shorter than the listing.
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Editor Rob
When Arnold exactly started to lose height is a mystery, but given how much weights he was lifting, his first fraction lost could have been earlier in his movie career.
Chinybobs said on 11/Jun/20
On set with the first terminator film he’s always shorter than Cameron in off screen shots.
Alex 6'0 said on 9/Jun/20
Arnold 5'11.25 peak? Lmao impossible. Lowest i can see is 6'0.5
Bogusbu6'0 said on 8/Jun/20
Dmeyer said on 8/Jun/20
6'0.5 max is my opinion
Bogusbu6'0 said on 8/Jun/20
Dmeyer said on 8/Jun/20
That's a good argument and I agree. If Arnie was reall 6-1.5 no one would have question the 6-2 and would have looked easily taller than 6'2 on the screen
Pierre said on 8/Jun/20
Jeff Bridges supposed 186 and 183 Gary Busey in poor posture =
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Jeff Bridges and 188 Sam Elliot sleeping on him =
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Click Here =Jeff /Arnold
Dmeyer said on 8/Jun/20
Lets Say bridges was just 186cm plus 1.5cm shoes 187.5cm just about 6-2 arnie dosnt look under 6ft 1 1/8 in just about 186cm , but if bridges was nearly 187cm and his shoes had a small confort insolé ans gave near 2cm then 188.5cm shoes on arnie does look as listed 186.5cm , but i think if arnie was 6-1.5 no one would have question the 6-2 and hé would have looked oftenly 6-2-2.25in wearing big shoes and hé didnt so 6-0.75-6-1.25 is safe 185-186cm Peak tall enaugh to look 6-2 and short enaugh to look 6ft at times
JeanP said on 7/Jun/20
in the movie stay hungry,he looks taller than the 185cm jeff (with shoes).Arnold 2/3cm + barefoot 187/188,Let's face it arnold is old and with joint problems.and much before the beginning of his political career.
Your publication does not have to allow so much span from the same users "with height trauma"
Pierre said on 5/Jun/20
@jerton = My lowest peak guess is 5"11.25' and my highest peak guess 6"0'.
Alex 6'0 said on 5/Jun/20
Also just by looking at someone in pics or person no way can tell 6'0 from 6'1 without them near someone or something of known height. I'm a solid 6'0 and I'm often guessed at 6'1 easy.
jerton179 said on 4/Jun/20
Pierre said on 3/Jun/20
What's your lowest guess on Arnold's peak? just curious. Mine is 6'.0 1/8 but probably was nearly 6'0 1/2
Pierre said on 3/Jun/20
Young Arnold /Lou Ferrigno same postures same distance to camera =
Click Here = Arnold's eye is max same height as Lou's mouth.
Click Here = here is again Adrian Paul 6"0' next to Lou in 1994,Adrian not even straight.A young Lou with 6"4' John Larroquette both wearing shoes =
Click Here .
Click Here = a young Lou and 6"5.5'/6"6' Dick Durock
Arnold max 6"0' .
Kurtz said on 2/Jun/20
@robettaylor
You truly wasted your time, all bodybuilders height is boosted, at least a couple of inches.
jerton179 said on 2/Jun/20
Rob please change this:
"Peak height was 6ft 1 ½ (186.7 cm)"
obviously he never was 187 cm and most og guys don't believe it. You just need to watch his movies.
He just was this height with footwear. 6-6'0.5 is more realistic
Do you really believe this? The problem is when people start believing this just because a guy said he measured Arnold at 187 cm. What a funny story
robettaylor said on 1/Jun/20
To know Arnold's real height, you have to compare barefoot bodybuilder photos and according to my calculations it is 186+. it is undeniable, what else would be necessary to travel to 1985/1986.but I would have shoes so ... Because from there he start to shrink due to his bodybuilding career.
it is silly to buy with images from when he is 45,50,60,65 years old, he had already shrunk more with age.
don't try to fool yourself.
Kurtz said on 1/Jun/20
@Ian C.
nice try, Arnie never above 6'0.25, get over it.
Dude his movies are great!
Pierre said on 1/Jun/20
@Ian C Arnold nearly 6"2' means Lou no less than 6"5' and Lou looks generally max 6"3' next to lot's of celebrities(John Larroquette , Dick Durock , Manny Perry, Adrian Paul Rob has seen...)
Chinybobs said on 29/May/20
He’s between 6-0 and 6-1 peak. Realistically 6-0.5 is probably accurate. Now struggling with 5-11.
Pierre said on 26/May/20
peaky4 said on 25/May/20
@Pierre
Be serious please. Are you trying to say he was 5'11 peak? Stop the downgrading. I'm the first here saying he wasn'e even 6'1.25 with footwear.
I'm saying he was 6'0.25 flat barefoot peak but 5'11 is the biggest joke on this site
The pic is dated from 1994 .Next to Adrian Paul Lou was only 43,and Lou has not a long carreer as a competitor ...I doubt he lost more than half an inch in 1994...
peaky4 said on 25/May/20
@Pierre
Be serious please. Are you trying to say he was 5'11 peak? Stop the downgrading. I'm the first here saying he wasn'e even 6'1.25 with footwear.
I'm saying he was 6'0.25 flat barefoot peak but 5'11 is the biggest joke on this site
peaky4 said on 25/May/20
Pierre said on 23/May/20
6'0= 182.8 cm
Arnold was never below 182.88.
He was a 183-183 flat so just over 6'0. Like 6'0.25. Under 6'0 in a joke
peaky4 said on 24/May/20
Alex 6'0 said on 22/May/20
In Commando never looked 6'2 neither on his footwear. Looked taller in other movies like True Lies or Kindergarten.
In Commando looked 6'0
Pierre said on 23/May/20
peaky4 said on 22/May/20
Pierre said on 21/May/20
Peak below 6'0 is absurd. He was 6'0.25 183-183.5 in cm
Lol watch again Adrian Paul's posture next to Lou = his hands falling a lot in his pockets,bust not even straight....And the pic is easily inclined in favor to Lou = Adrian in his posture has his eyes same height as Lou's mouth...Arnold and Lou same posture = nothing more... .Then what guess is absurd?....
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Vladimir said on 23/May/20
Arnold with 6ft6in Jordan
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houss said on 23/May/20
Arnold was 187 cm
Chinybobs said on 23/May/20
In his boots close to 6-2. Barefoot 6-0,5. Period.
peaky4 said on 22/May/20
Pierre said on 21/May/20
Peak below 6'0 is absurd. He was 6'0.25 183-183.5 in cm
Alex 6'0 said on 22/May/20
In Commando he was referred to as 6'2. In footwear he passed for 6'2.
Pierre said on 21/May/20
Next to Lou Ferrigno in good pics (not this famous pics with Lou Ferrigno shrinking a lot :) ...) Arnold does not look taller than Adrian Paul next to Lou, just for an example ...Arnold peak max 6"0' again.
cris_cro@yahoo.com said on 21/May/20
I think his was 6ft 1.5 maybe a few hours after sleep, I dont think he could have hold on this height till the end of the day. I can see still 6ft 1 the lowest evening height.
He was a strong 6ft 1 guy, shorter with about 1 inch than 6ft2 Bush senior or taller than 6ft, than Briggite Nielsen.
I think a 6ft 1.25 would be a better match
Pierre said on 19/May/20
@Viper= we have a measurement with a height gauge that we don't know and we have lot's of good pics to compare Arnold with other guys .If my memory is good other bodybuilders were measured with this height gauge and were satisfied by the result or were measured half an inch less than their usual height ....But we have for example a bodybuilder Lou Ferrigno with a 6"5' official height who looks maybe an inch taller than his 6"2' stunt double ,shorter than 6"4' John Larroquette by a good inch...etc ....We have Ken Waller billed 6"0' and who looks maybe half an inch taller than an old Joe Weider listed 5"10' peak... if Lou and Ken were measured with this height gauge and this height gauge give only 6"4.5' for Lou and only 5"11.5' for Ken=I want to say =both guys can still be satisfied imo .And the reality is still below this marks by comparisons.In this site a guy talk about Sergio's height when he has met Sergio Oliva =
Click Here and under the article ,in the forum,apparently the same guy posted a comment and explain he guessed Sergio 5"7' if my memory is good.
Here is Sergio and Arnold =
Click Here difference here = a forehead = 4 inches
houss said on 19/May/20
@pierre consider your self
blocked
Pierre said on 19/May/20
houss said on 17/May/20
I wish if there is a block button on this site so we can block people who put silly comments like Arnold's peak height is 5'10 or 5'11
@houss Then with your button logic I could easily press a block button for the 6"2' guesses or even a bit less ,by lot's of good pics...
viper said on 18/May/20
He measured 6-1.5 at night by a guy who didn't like him.
This measurement device also measured others who came out a half an inch shorter than their claim.
Doesn't see like this measuring device was off. I've been measured inches under before by a faulty device. This seemed legit
James B 172cm said on 18/May/20
rob was he still 6'1.5 30 years ago?
in kindergarten cop he is reffered to as a "giant"

Editor Rob
Figuring out when Arnie lost his first fraction isn't so easy, but 30 years ago I think he would have lost a little bit from his 20's.
Pierre said on 18/May/20
Alex 6'0 said on 16/May/20
A legit 6'0-6'0.5 can pass as tall as 6'2 to some. Arnold could have done that too but id put him closer to 6'1 peak.
But he does not pass for a 6"2' guy,or only with Lou as tall as a good 6"5' peak,that seems to me very compromised = Lou 6"5' means Adrian Paul around 6"2' John Larroquette a good 6"6' Richard Moll 6"10' etc...
houss said on 17/May/20
I wish if there is a block button on this site so we can block people who put silly comments like Arnold's peak height is 5'10 or 5'11
HeightRealist said on 17/May/20
Pierre do you see Arnold tiptoeing to look taller. A 6'1.5 arnold tiptoeing should look at least 5 inches taller than 5'10 Dantes. The difference is far less. In fact Arnold is only slightly taller without the tiptoeing.
Now nobody answered the fact that a peak Arnold was 2 inches shorter than a 60 year old George Bush senior. please somebody answer that one.
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So forget the taller than 6 foot claims for Arnold. He has been wearing lifts his whole career. Same goes for Stallone.
Arnold average height. With lifts looked 6'0-6'1. Muscularity WAYYYY above average, add camera angle from beneath which makes him lool even bigger. That's how you make an average height look tall.
Alex 6'0 said on 16/May/20
A legit 6'0-6'0.5 can pass as tall as 6'2 to some. Arnold could have done that too but id put him closer to 6'1 peak.
Vexacus said on 15/May/20
Arnold's peak 5'10-5'11?? Really?? I'm sorry but I think lockdown is affecting some people's mind.
Pierre said on 15/May/20
Arnold was taller than Rolando Dantes ,but Rolando Dantes even closer to the camera looks comfortably shorter than Ken Waller,himself looking around the same height as an old Joe Weider listed himself 5"10' peak....
Click Here =Ken Waller Rolando Dantes
Ken Waller /Joe Weider =
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Arnold /Rolando Dantes =
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Click Here =Arnold closer to the camera than Ken Waller and advantageous low camera
Click Here =again with Ken Waller Arnold a bit closer to the camera
Click Here =1966 Arnold in his 19 =the left guy next to Arnold is Chet Yorton listed 5"11' in web.Both guys not perfectly straight.
houss said on 13/May/20
HeightRealist said on 10/May/20
Arnold wad never a tall guy. Always wearing lifts to appear taller. He was 2 inches shorter in lifts than a 60 year old Bush senior. 5'10-5'11 peak height. He just never was a tall guy. There is a picture of him barely taller than ufc fighter Gsp who is like 176cm. Arnold was the same height as rolando Dantes who stands 5'10
Hhhhh you're totally the opposite of your name
Chinybobs said on 13/May/20
Not 6-1 peak. How much under is debatable. 6.0-5 peak imo.
HeightRealist said on 10/May/20
Arnold wad never a tall guy. Always wearing lifts to appear taller. He was 2 inches shorter in lifts than a 60 year old Bush senior. 5'10-5'11 peak height. He just never was a tall guy. There is a picture of him barely taller than ufc fighter Gsp who is like 176cm. Arnold was the same height as rolando Dantes who stands 5'10.
Pierre said on 9/May/20
@houss :) In you first pic Arnold stand closer to the camera and the camera is low then Arnold has a big advantage on Will Smith...in the second pic Will Smith looks the same height as max 5"11' Bruce Willis standing just a bit more distant...then the camera is very low one more time and Arnold with a head looking bigger than both guys is probably standing a bit closer to the camera than Will...Arnold was he in advantageous cow boy boots like a lot of times ? ...
peaky4 said on 6/May/20
Pierre said on 5/May/20
And it could be possible Vernos Wells was 5'10 flat. He is listed 5'10 in google. He looked noticeable shorter than 5'11
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@Rob Vernos was really 5'11? Looks a couple inches on you with better posture. 5'10.25 peak? There are 4-5 cm between you guys @Rob

Editor Rob
Vernon peak I think was 5ft 11 range
peaky4 said on 6/May/20
@Rob could you explain why Arnold looked 6'0 max in Commando? Maybe we are all wrong and he was shorter.
@Pierre is right. Commando is one of my Top 3 Arnold movies. I agree Arnold did look 6'0 flat in this movie. The black guy is 6'4 as he looked and Arnold looks about 6'0. In other movies looked just under 6'1.
I never believed Arnold was over 6'1 he always looked about 6'0 flat
Pierre said on 6/May/20
Lou stand a lot closer to the camera in both pics @houss and Lou barefoot is a slim probability ,here his feet in another pic =
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Pierre said on 5/May/20
Click Here = Commando in the middle of the 80s Arnold around 38 here.The guy with the red shirt Charles Meshak is listed 6"4' in web.His eyes are around the same height as Arnold's top of height ,that means he has no less than a complete forehead on Arnold in the badest case.A classic forehead is around 4 inches and here
Click Here you can see his forehead isn't particularly small...
Click Here = here again movie Commando Vernon Wells 5"11' peak
Click Here , in poor posture next to Arnold looks not even 4 full cm shorter than Arnold in this posture.Coincidences?
Pierre said on 5/May/20
niki175cm said on 4/May/20
Pierre said on 3/May/20
Arnold was a classic 184 guy barefoot. I'd say a solid 184 guy so 6'0.5 in the 70's is correct. Years and years watching him photos, movies. Looked a flat 6'0 in the 2000's, 5'11.5 2004, 5'11 in 2014 and these days clearly below 5'11. He is 5'10.5 in 2020
Then watch old comments with pics here too , max 6"0' peak seems a good possibility .
houss said on 4/May/20
Lou and 188 eric kramer with another perspective
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P.s lou was barefeet in those pics
Jam Cherry said on 4/May/20
Arnold badly lost a lot of height, peak was 187 cm now he’s 181 cm max
niki175cm said on 4/May/20
Pierre said on 3/May/20
Arnold was a classic 184 guy barefoot. I'd say a solid 184 guy so 6'0.5 in the 70's is correct. Years and years watching him photos, movies. Looked a flat 6'0 in the 2000's, 5'11.5 2004, 5'11 in 2014 and these days clearly below 5'11. He is 5'10.5 in 2020
niki175cm said on 4/May/20
Pierre said on 3/May/20
Well not a joke 6'0 but honestly a bit low for a peak Arnold. My lowest guess is a weak 6'0.5 and highest 6'0.75.
Cockstride said on 4/May/20
How anyone can say over 5-11 today is crazy. 5-11 max probably just under. 5-10.75
Pierre said on 3/May/20
Comparisons Arnold /lou
Click Here = here the left guy Eric Kramer listed 6"2' a bit more distant to the camera than Lou ,probably more sole than Lou(here are Lou's soles =
Click Here ) but Eric Kramer has a generous space between his own feet ...Lou tilt his head ,his bust is straight ... is it a 6"4' guy here? Again max 6"3' not 6"4' to me .
With another guy listed 6"2' in web(Manny Perry) =
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Pierre said on 3/May/20
@niki =max 6"0' a joke?! Watch again the pic Lou /Adrian Paul = the pic is inclined in favour to Lou,Adrian is not even perfectly straight here ,both hands really plunging into pockets and bust/neck not straights.Arnold in good pics has his eyes max same height as Lou's mouth ...compare with Adrian's eyes/Lou's mouth .....(Lou was never looking 193 peak 191 max by lots of comparisons)
niki175cm said on 3/May/20
houss said on 30/Mar/19 (Michael's biehn celebpage)
Here's the photo:
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Arnold is 178-179 as everyone who recently met him is saying. Arnold closeer to the camera and clearly shorter than Michael and Robert Patrick who is 5'10.5-75 these days
Alir?za said on 3/May/20
I think his peak height was 185-186 cm. Now he is 180 cm
Pierre said on 3/May/20
houss said on 2/May/20
@pierre hhhh lou is very closer to camera in every comparaison you do between him and Arnold
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Don't try to fool us with pictures like this
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This is the true difference between them
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@houss LOL in my pic they are exactly the same distance to the camera as you can see by their feet on the floor...
-first pic you posted = recent pic with old Lou Ferrigno who has probably shrink a bit after surgeries and clearly not straight,he clearly shrink here....
second pic you posted = by considering the camera is very low Lou looks like a giant next to Arnold here!
-your pic number three = we cannot see the whole bodies but we can see Lou clearly slouch a lot here !
Arnold max 6"0' peak
niki175cm said on 2/May/20
@Rob
There are 3 inches clearly between them on the old photos. And it could be a bigger difference
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Editor Rob
With Lou, there did seem times like Arnie could be a flat 6ft 1
niki175cm said on 2/May/20
Pierre said on 1/May/20
It's clear.
Ferrigno was like 6'3.5 peak and Arnie 6'0.5 yes.
I dont believe your guess saying Arnie was below 6'0. That's a joke.
Toaday Arnold is under 5'11 I know like 5'10-5'10.5 but like 6'0.5 in his prime
houss said on 2/May/20
@pierre hhhh lou is very closer to camera in every comparaison you do between him and Arnold
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Don't try to fool us with pictures like this
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This is the true difference between them
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Pierre said on 1/May/20
Click Here Lou Ferrigno /Dick Durock 6"5.5'/6"6'
Click Here Lou Ferrigno talking to John Larroquette 6"4'
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Click Here Lou Ferrigno /Adrian Paul weak 6"0'
Click Here pic inclined in favor to Lou by the lines behind them .
Peak Arnold /Lou Ferrigno same posture same distance to camera both barefeet pic not inclined this time like the previous pic Lou/Adrian Paul
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Jani said on 1/May/20
Jeff Bridges looked a little bit taller than Arnie in Stay Hungry so I would estimate slightly under 6'1" peak and 5'11.5" now for Arnie.
shortishdude said on 1/May/20
Somewhere between 6'0.5-6'1 was his peak without a doubt. Below 6'0.5 is impossible and never over 6'1.
6'1.25 out of bed 6'0.5 before bed.
These are my stimations by all I've seen. I find impossible other marks
Pierre said on 30/Apr/20
Watch again the recent comment on 22/April with both videos comparisons Donald Trump 6"2' and Arnold next to David Letterman ,David Letterman slouching more next to Arnold than next to Donald and Arnold straight Donald slouching =both video dated from 1987 so Arnold only 40 ,he never looks even close to Donald's height.Max 6"0' range in 1987 by this comparison
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 29/Apr/20
His peak was supposed to be a measured 6ft 1.5, but it is not a certainty, 6ft 1.25 would also be something he might have measured. 6ft 2 seems hard to imagine him measuring during the day in the 70's
6ft1¼ is the lowest I'd argue for his peak and what you currently have him at is fine IMO. The full 6ft2 and 6ft1 flat are both unlikely peak but somewhere between is arguable.
shortishdude said on 29/Apr/20
Totally agree!
6'2 with boots is the highest he looked in movies. I go with 6'0.5 peak
Cockstride said on 28/Apr/20
Alex 6'0 said on 29/Apr/20
Was watching jingle all the way recently and looking at Arnold its difficult to really tell. A guy 6'0-6'1 can definitely look 6'2 om film. I believe Arnold was definitely over 6'0 back then but certainly not 6'2. 6'1 i still believe is possible but not over that.
jano said on 29/Apr/20
He is 181-182 these days, 187 peak.
Cockstride said on 28/Apr/20
Absolutely nothing convinced me he was 6-2. Exactly the opposite. 6-0.5 peak. In boots etc that’s a 6-2 person in Hollywood. It’s that simple.
shortishdude said on 28/Apr/20
@Rob. How tall do you think a peak Arnie could get on the stadiometer at midday and night. Just curious you guess and what's the lowest you buy? If you see this photo Arnold is closer to the camera and he is clearly shorter than both Michael Biehn and Patrik. But Arnold is aging better than them.
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Editor Rob
His peak was supposed to be a measured 6ft 1.5, but it is not a certainty, 6ft 1.25 would also be something he might have measured. 6ft 2 seems hard to imagine him measuring during the day in the 70's.
shortishdude said on 28/Apr/20
@Rob first photo I see Arnold next to Michael Biehn
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Being realistc I agree Alex 6'0 said on 26/Apr/20
I struggle to see Arnold over 185 in his peak. He was more a 6'0.5 guy. A guy 6'0-6'1 can pass 6'2 to people especially on tv. Clearly shorter than Calum Von Moger who is 6'1.5. Arnold's peak was around 6'0.5- 6'0.75 is my highest guess.
In Terminator 2 when he is fighting and pushing Robert Patrik who was around 5'11 the scene Arnold looked over one inch taller but Arnold wear boots. There is no chance Arnold was over 6'0.5 flat barefoot peak. Never has lookd over 6'0.75 barefoot in Pumping Iron a movie in the 70's
houss said on 27/Apr/20
Tom hanks and bill paxton
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Pierre said on 27/Apr/20
@houss Lol Terminator boots were probably a "bit " generous or something with the floor because in your first pic James Cameron/Arnold at première ,James wear cow boy boots but stand in a poor posture as he had a horse between his boots!But even here he tower over Arnold....
Caverion said on 27/Apr/20
Bull . He's never been over 6 footer or 183-184 cm. Today like 5'11 or 180 cm.
Pierre said on 27/Apr/20
@Houss=And?!What do you want to prove here? you chose pics at different periods(young James Cameron/old James cameron who has probably shrunk...) while I compare Bill Paxton /Arnold /James Cameron in 2001 and 2003 so very close years...And what do you want to prove with this pics with cow boy boots?...
Arnold 6"0' peak.
Cockstride said on 27/Apr/20
If he’s 5-11 barefoot today I’d be massively surprised. 6-0.5 peak. Now certainly not over 5-11.
Pierre said on 26/Apr/20
Comparison @houss Bill Paxton looking taller than Jake Gillenhaal = both men are distant one to the other one and Bill probably closer to the camera(is Jajke really as tall as his list?)
Now Bill Paxton / 5"11.5' Tom Hanks a bit more distant to the camera =
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Alex 6'0 said on 26/Apr/20
Realistically a guy 6'0-6'1 can pass 6'2 to people especially on tv.
Alex 6'0 said on 25/Apr/20
A peak 6'0 Arnold i can't see though not impossible. I don't believe the 6'2 but id think he was 6'1 or close in his prime. Today 5'11 max
houss said on 23/Apr/20
Bill paxton and 182cm michael beihn
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Pierre said on 23/Apr/20
Pics 2012
Click Here =Arnold closer to the camera than Sly very probably a bit under 5"8'actually both wearing sneakers.
Around same distance =
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Click Here = Sly a bit closer to the camera and slouching a bit
Apologies to @houss
Pierre said on 23/Apr/20
@Houss"s pics on 22/April =Fact is Arnold is always a lot closer to the camera than Bill Paxton and each pic with a special angle.Here
Click Here in fact if we refer to the lines supposed to be horizontal on the wall,finally Bill Paxton's top of head is around the same height as Arnold's top of head like here too =
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Here is Bill Paxton again this time next to James Cameron ,both around same distance to the camera 2003 =
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Arnold /James Cameron 2001(so only 2 years before others pics) =
Click Here Click Here Click Here = Arnold even stand a bit closer to the camera in this pics
Arnold never looks taller than Bill Paxton here(listed 5"11.5')
houss said on 22/Apr/20
Bill Paxton and 5'11" jake gyllenhaal
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houss said on 22/Apr/20
Arnold and 182cm (181cm listed by rob him self on this site) bill Paxton
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Pierre said on 22/Apr/20
@houss = B-but Arnold in your pic had shoes who are looking strangely like cow-boy boots =
Click Here Click Here .In your other pic in fact Arnold stand a lot closer to the camera,like a head closer than Dwayne .
Dwayne 6"2' here ? =
Click Here by considering Dwayne stand as straight as he can 6"2' seems to me generous here...plus Barack being probably more 6"0.75' now...
Fact is Arnold is always in a good posture here and Dwayne shrunk.
Arnold peak max 6"0' now 5"10'
Pierre said on 22/Apr/20
Comparisons Arnold /David Letterman =
On Letterman Show Donald Trump 6"2' was next to David Letterman in an old video and he was looking easily taller than Arnold =
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Arnold /David Letterman =
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Arnold straight Donald comfortably slouching next to David ,David always breaking his posture to shake hands,Donald looks easily taller than Arnold here(both video of 1987 Arnold only 40)= Arnold again 6"0' range to me by this comparisons
miko said on 21/Apr/20
Cena is 6'0.5, Arnie looks to be struggling with 5'11.
Adysan35 said on 21/Apr/20
Arnold was în 70' and 90's a solid 6 foot 1,5.We should take a watch to YouTube video whit Arnold and David Letterman. You can find at least 5 videos from David show during Arnold carrer at Hollywood. And în the begenning af The show when they meet, shaking hands they are very, very similar în height. And David îs listed here as 6 foot 2. So I cant see Arnold în his prime never under at least 6.1.He was more like a solid 6 foot1, 5.
Cockstride said on 21/Apr/20
Absolutely not over 6-1 peak. Realistic 6-0.5 peak maybe or even 6-0. Looked 6-2 in boots (terminator 1) so it’s impossible he was this barefoot.
Pierre said on 20/Apr/20
@houss Georges in your pic has something like 1 cm more shoes than Arnold,but he's in a poor posture compared to Arnold.And you apparently forget Arnold in your pic is easily closer to the camera than Georges.His daughter 5"10.75'?Maybe ,this could explain why she looks a bit taller than him sometimes.
Pierre said on 20/Apr/20
Click Here = This time John Cena with classic shoes...
VitoCheng said on 19/Apr/20
i don't believe that arnold will lose a lot 😭😭, 6'2 "⬇5'11"
houss said on 19/Apr/20
Arnold and this guy who claimed Once to be 196 and 194
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The problem is that the difference between the two is less that the difference between Arnold and cena now
And pierre plz don't post the " obama rock " pictures again plz because we all know that the rock is only 6'2