Oscar Wilde's Height
6ft 0 (182.9 cm)
Irish poet and playwright, remembered for The Importance of Being Earnest, The Picture of Dorian Gray, A Woman of No Importance and An Ideal Husband. On 6th May 1897 from Prison, he mentioned his height: "well, I am six feet, and I like long shirts"
The Nominal Register with these particulars is still preserved at Pentonville. It shows that Wilde's weight on reception was just under fourteen stone and his height was six feet.
-- Oscar Wilde: a biography, 1982
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6ft 0.58in (184.3cm)
Tunman said on 12/Jan/21
So sad to hear you have to face another lockdown.I hope it will fulfill the goal of limiting the spread of the virus.At least the (British?)government is reacting to the challenges it faces.We were so lucky to have had only 51 dead until August and very few contamination as most people respected the March-June lockdown no matter how bad its impact was on the economy,but now we have 5200 dead,the reason is that the frontiers were reopened in the hope tourists would come (it didn't happen),instead we had nationals living abroad who returned home and refused to perform the 2 week quarantine,or worse entering the territory with a fake test which led to the virus spreading totally out of control,it further worsened when children came back to school in mid September with now people dying at the pace of 40-50 every day since the last 4 months,all these lives lost...for nothing but incompetence of the rulers,now the situation is such that the beds in hospitals are fewer than the people who need them,we started to select those who should be admitted(the youngest as they have better chances to survive),with private clinics it's even worse,and there was 3 unbelievable cases of laboratory experts who faked tests with positive ones being told they're negative for further contamination and consequently further patients admissions for clinics and the negative ones being told they're positive,as they're obviously worthless for further contamination, they're simply admitted for two weeks in the clinic at a cost of 25,000 dinars(around 6-7000 £),it turned to be that there was a whole band working for that very purpose,playing with human lives for money,useless to tell you that Covid showed us the worst face of greedy human beings,I really hope the guilty ones won't stay unpunished,they're so many heart breaking stories of old people who were scammed this way,deplorable just deplorable,I really hope the British won't have to deal with such problem...but guess what we're now told we have to live with that disease and that we're lucky compared to the west,what can you expect when such speech is now taken for true "that we're the lucky ones"?believe me we'll only see half measures never a comprehensive plan to eradicate it,not to speak that the vaccine won't reach the country before 4 months minimum,my mother has asthma so is really risking a lot when she helps me in the shop with barely 1 out 4 customers wearing masks despite all posters on the door entrance.
I guess you're British,right?Last summer I met a woman from Wales,who told me that the place she comes from despite having many dead was relatively spared,compared to big cities like Cardiff,London,Manchester and so on,again an example of how "minor incompetence" is today seen as a good thing...anyways I'm going to be on forced holidays once again starting from tomorrow,a useless measure to try to stop the virus if only you look at the nightmare of public transports at 8:00am,instead a 3-4 week lockdown would have been more profitable if we managed to trace every cluster and perform the highest number of tests,but alas with so many people ready to explode against any new restricting measure which would further damage economy,the government is fearful and unable to take the adequate decisions
So good luck with the new lockdown and of course stay safe with your cats(I can only admire cat lovers btw)
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 10/Jan/21
@ Tunman - Another very interesting Comment from you, Tunman, offering a great deal of insight and making me see that I am lucky to live in this country and to be so content with just enough food, clothes and adequate shelter. I've never craved riches, and silly little things in life bring me a lot of joy. Okay, so we are in lockdown once again, and all too many people are hacked off at not being able to go out as they're used to and even feel hard done by that they can't go on holiday. By having so many cats, I'd miss them far too much to leave them for any more than for a minimal time, a decision I came to when I first acquired them, and I'm fine with that. They give me pleasure and fulfilment each and every day, and I find this infinitely more satisfying than flying off to sunnier climes for two or three weeks a year. Rarely do I go to sleep without one in my arms, and it's usually my white one, Erramius, or Airmiles for short. Ever since I was a small child, I wanted a white cat of my own and now I have one. She knows she's the apple of my eye!
So you speak three languages, Tunman? That's excellent going and you have every reason to be proud of yourself. Understanding people who are speaking in their mother tongues extremely quickly only comes with practice, ideally in the country where the language is spoken. As you doubtless know, my Mum was German and my Dad is English. When I was a kid, I used to think my Mum spoke German incredibly quickly over the phone, but with the passing of the years, it didn't seem so fast because I'd learnt more. Like your parents, she was a language teacher, (German) but she taught in a girls' senior (or Secondary) school, a private one. I was only a nipper of seven at the time. Had she taught at a University, she'd have had to make far more of a commitment, and as we weren't very old, the working school hours were ideal for her as they fitted in with our school routine. I imagine she was a very strict teacher, favouring the girls with a flair for her mother tongue. She was a strict parent! When I started my Secondary school, I could stand only one term of her checking my homework and getting told off, and then, after our first term's exams, which gave me a chance to prove myself, I went up into the top class (there were only two), and decided that I'd do my homework on my own. Furthermore, I discovered how to use a dictionary, my Mum always having a go at me for my spelling. I had one term of mediocre marks, though still above average, and by Summer term, I was excelling - all on my own! 😝 My brother wasn't as bold though and put up with being told off. Today it would be considered child abuse, but never once have I held anything like that against her. She came to England after a hard time in the War, where she was forced to work for the SS. She hated it, stood up for what she believed in, saying bad things about Hitler and Himmler, and was punished, having to work nearly every hour God sent. Had it not been for the fact that her boss fancied her and admired her pluckiness, she'd have gone to a concentration camp. When she was badly wounded while at work, the grinding down of her stopped.
I could listen to my Mum's Wartime stories over and over again, and I still enjoy listening to my Dad's. He is very ill and we are visiting him this week, driven there by our lovely sister-in-law. Before she became a Mum, she used to work on TV and I still enjoy seeing her name coming up after the showing of the repeats. It's there that she met my youngest brother.
Sometimes on the news, there are reports of coachloads of people arriving in the UK having perished on the way here. For you to have to live with the knowledge that innocent people, and such young ones at that, are drowning while trying to swim to safer countries, must be unbearable. Hearing from you that this is occurring so often that it doesn't even make the news any more left me in a cold sweat, and very, very angry and sad. The first thing that came to mind is how lucky I am to be living in a tolerant country. One programme I used to like watching was a fact-based American series called 'The Little House on the Prairie'. It was about a family who lived in North America after the American Civil War. It brought home to me and many others what life was like for people then, and the subject of the ostracizatiin of black people, and of Native Americans is covered therein. One black actor I was particularly fond of was the late Moses Gunn. Although life wasn't fair to him and other black folk, he was always happy and laughing. He never felt hard done by and he had a beautiful singing voice. He felt privileged when he was accepted into the Church, which only had white people. Although this programme was already on in the 70s, when I was growing up, I didn't understand it as well as when it was repeated in my adulthood. I didn't even realize that it was based in the 19th Century, in Victorian times. The citizens of the tiny town were grateful just to make a living and scrape enough money together to feed and clothe their families. There was one well-off family, the mother of whom was stuck up and snotty and the daughter followed suit, until she met a thoroughly nice, (and shorter!) man, married and had twins. Lovely stuff, and so uplifting!
Well, I'm going to draw this to a close now, Tunman, and wish you a great 2021.
With very best wishes,
Sandy. XXX 😁
Tunman said on 31/Dec/20
Both my parents are Tunisian but both are teaching french at university.I'm among the rare people who actually have the chance to speak french at the same level they speak in arabic,but my mother tongue is still arabic,actually short arabic or what we call here Derija.I speak both french and Derija fluently and interchangeably. Literary arabic isn't for everyday conversations,mainly used in Newspapers,books,and TV news I won't have a problem in understanding what's said although I'll very rarely use it personally,well except when it's required(with teachers).In all modesty I might have a good level when writing in English but if speaking I'm certainly not as fluent as I would have liked,to be fair when I was in NY I had some difficulties to understand what some people were saying without asking them to speak slowly,same goes for films and I would often end up looking for subtitles.Again only a small minority would manage a complicated conversation with a native speaker but this time I'm not part of that minority,though I wish I will some day,well I already do for an average conversation and thanks to that I had no problems in communicating with non native english speakers in Italy Netherlands and so on...
The idea that there's no future is becoming the most common one.You probably met a lot of migrants in Uk,right?Maybe not Tunisians because their 2 main destination for illegal migration are Italy(because it's very close)and France.Do you realize that they consciously take the risk of ending drowned in the Mediterranean sea in the hope of a better life?20 corpses were recovered near our southern shores this week(they're probably more).We became so used to this that it wasn't even brought on TV news.So sad that most are youngsters,sometimes as young as 17-18 years old,that's how things are,these are perceived as a time bomb because staying unemployed they'll soon take the street and cause trouble(which would be justified)so the best way the government saw to deal with them was to let them "escape"their miserable conditions abroad...
As long as there won't be reforms to fight efficiently corruption and hatred speeches,nothing will change,It's so sad,but who knows?as long as there's a will,everything is possible,let me end this year on a positive note,3 associations(one defending gay rights,another defending women's right to equal inheritance and a third defending the rights of color minorities)have seen the day recently,mainly led by young people who are proud to build their country,so the battle for justice isn't lost,it only begins,it will be a long,very long one but I'm going to say we'll end up winning that one.
Of course I wish you and everyone here A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 30/Dec/20
@ Tunman - You poor man, having to live like that. I read your comment and had tears in my eyes. I also showed it to my brother. About an hour later, he came back in to see me and asked me to find your comment/essay on his own phone so that he could study it at his leisure. I'm sure my boyfriend would be outraged at how people in the 21st century have to live, but then I think he has a far better idea than I have.
I don't know your age, Tunman, but whatever it is, if only your 'leaders' - and I say that in the loosest possible terms because they sound like selfish bullies - well, if they had their people's needs as well thought out as you have, your country would be able to work towards a better future. No, I'll rephrase that: your country would HAVE a future, because a country run by a leadership consisting of individuals with only themselves at the forefront of their minds is no future at all. To turn people against each other and thrive on observing them at loggerheads with each other suits them fine. That way, far fewer people will question the way they conduct themselves, being far too busy worrying about their own conflicts, be they caused by religious turmoil, sexual intolerance, or which nationality they are, as if that should make any difference whatsoever.
I'm interested in languages and was wondering, is your mother tongue is French, Tunman? I used to think you were American, so fluent is your English. Anyway, I understand how people can feel agnostic, religion having been the root cause of fighting and killing for centuries. I think I'd be of the same opinion if I'd seen what you have. My boyfriend has studied many religions and read their 'bibles'. He's also been all over the World and is very interesting to talk to. He's of the opinion that religion has been the cause of wars, hatred and torture. My late boyfriend, who was eight years my senior, felt the same way. I was raised a Christian by my Mum, who brought us up virtually single handedly.
Christ himself hardly gave up his own life, suffering a long and terrible death, so that people would persecute each other in the name of religion. Christians were fed to hungry lions by the Romans, for instance, and many centuries later in England, people (Puritans) burnt Catholics because they didn't conform to the new Protestantism, a faith started by an English King, Henry VIII, (who reigned from 1509 to 1547) because he wanted to marry another woman, under the pretext that his wife hadn't borne him a son and heir. Actually, the Spanish wife, Catherine of Aragon, bore 6 children, 3 of each, but only one of them, a girl, who was to become 'Bloody Mary' or Mary the First, (on the English throne from 1553 to 1558) survived. She remained a staunch Catholic, like her mother, and had Protestants persecuted, sending untold amounts of people to their deaths. After Mary came Elizabeth I, (1558 to 1603) and although she was herself a Protestant, she stopped the killing of Catholics, though it still went on under the Puritans. Elizabeth I is my favourite historical monarch. She was brave and gave her people the first taste of religious freedom. She never married, saying she was 'married to her country'. I don't think the idea held much appeal for her, her mother, Anne Boleyn, having lost her head because her husband, Henry VIII, also her father, wanted to marry another woman, Jane Seymour, who bore him a son, albeit a frail one.
That's just a bit of English history. My German mother was a Lutheran, and proud to be so. The foundations of Martin Luther's Church were a whole lot more savoury than those of the Church of England.
How on Earth do you cope, Tunman, without freedom of speech? It's something we in England take for granted. When I read about how your people live, I was shocked and saddened. I did have some idea, yes, but hearing it from someone I regard as a friend drives it home harder than ever. Only a few years ago in this country, it was on the News that a woman had been murdered with the full blessing of her father, because she didn't want to marry the man her family had lined up for her. I can't remember which religion she was but her cruel and needless slaughter shook the UK to the core. The subject of arranged marriage has been approached and dealt with in certain popular British detective dramas. The viewers are left in shock, and programmes such as this have at least brought to our attention the feeling of helplessness felt by the poor reluctant victims.
So we have another year about to start. I hope it's a safer and happier one than the one just ending, I really do, but when people feel put upon when they have to stay in because of a Covid induced lockdown, when we close our doors and turn on our tellies, or play our video games or get cracking on our puzzles, perhaps we should spare a thought for people not that far away, who are so impoverished that their votes can be bought for the likes of a sandwich.
With all good wishes, Tunman, and here's wishing you a Happy New Year,
Sandy XXX 😁👍
ChaosControl 6'2.5 said on 29/Dec/20
I misunderstood the weight claim. I assumed his normal weight was 181lbs, he claimed it once and it got accidentally written as 118
said on 28/Dec/20
@Editor Rob the guy who you said was described as 118lbs, maybe he was 181lbs and it was a clerical error
'at one point' meant that it wasn't his normal weight, maybe illness.
said on 25/Dec/20
Hey Rob, I hope you have a nice christmas.
I wonder, do you have any informations about the height of writer Franz Kafka?
He is often described as either 6ft or close to it, 182cm.
The german writer Max Brod claimed in an interview that Kafka was about 1 1/2 heads taller than himself.
I hope you had a Merry Christmas too. I see a few authors mention near six foot...and one said at a point he weighed 118 lbs!
Tunman said on 21/Dec/20
Thanks for the nice words,it's always a pleasure.Actually that woman who fled to Germany was from Afghanistan where arranged marriages are definitely the rule and refusing can indeed lead to the woman being murdered.In Tunisia,things won't reach that level of violence,scarves aren't compulsory neither although both things are unfortunately becoming more and more common.
To be fair,Sandy,I love democracy but I have to say that the 2011 "Revolution" which allegedly brought democracy in fact brought only more intolerance.Today one can't speak freely about religion for sure,but unfortunately about many other important subjects as well such as minorities,gender equality and so on...
What we have to understand is that those extremists who are politically motivated,although uncultivated are all but stupid,in other words they know how to attract the poorest people to them with these voting against their own interests.A good example would be buying electors votes for a sandwich,for 10 dinars (around 3 dollars),buying sheeps for some influent people in villages...Unfortunately,these poor people,because of their terrible living conditions are unable to see the benefits or disadvantages on the long term,so instead of supporting someone who promises to build schools,roads,hospitals,to create libraries,scientific and intellectual centers to shape the future elite that in turn will create an economic dynamic and thus wealth and prosperity,they're simply happy with what they can get on the very short term(today).Such things and many others are among the strategies that help these people get to their powerful positions.I'm a real fan of Lula (former brazilian president)for he was the one who managed to get millions out of poverty...to end up jailed for an alleged corruption story,sadly peoples are easily manipulated and like I said end up choosing rulers that care only for their own persons.The worst is that once in power their strategy consists of playing different society components against each other(seculars vs religious,poor suburbs vs wealthy ones,those defending gays vs homophobics,francophiles vs arabophiles,tribe vs tribe,region vs region...)as long as society stays divided they're able not only to rule but also to show themselves as referees marginalizing some and favouring others as the "natural"ones.It would take pages to speak of all sorts of terrible incidents,that occured the last 10 years due to that irresponsible,even criminal dividing behaviour of our leaders
Your brother seems an interesting person to speak with,I definitely admire people who love reading books as much as I fear the people of only one book(be it religious,political or else,after all we all know what Mein Kampf leads to...)
And although I'm agnostic,have a merry christmas Sandy!You're always welcome
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 19/Dec/20
@ Tunman - What an interesting comment! You've done incredibly well to contribute a feeling of freedom to these young women, in that they feel they can go into your shop and not feel obliged to wear these otherwise compulsory scarves.
I'm of the opinion that every single one of us should be able to worship freely, and the wearing of anything to indicate your faith is unnecessary and up to the individual. The whole point of believing in a higher power is so that it guides us into becoming better people, feeling free to love and show affection and tolerance to all of our brothers and sisters. I don't find dictatorships acceptable, and to be cajoled into the wearing of particular items so that bigoted idiots can sum you up sounds primitive and akin to the puritanism that was practiced in England as a result of Queen Elizabeth I giving human beings the choice to worship whichever faith they chose, the Reformation having begun as an uprising in the second decade of the 16th century by German priest, theologist and author, Martin Luther, who didn't agree with the Pope's way of worship. In England, Henry VIII broke away from the Catholic Church for altogether more selfish reasons, forming the Protestant Church of England. Whereas Henry VIII's first born daughter, Mary Tudor, who reigned from 1553-1558, burnt and executed Protestants, turning the country back to Catholicism, her half sister, Elizabeth, believed that far too much blood had been spilt and that we should be free to worship however we wished. Puritans were an extreme form of English Protestants and they burnt Catholics.
Tunman - I don't feel that any genuine and good faith believes in dictatorship. Jesus told his disciples at the Last Supper to 'Love one another as I have loved you', and St Paul wrote to the Corinthians, "...and now these three remain: faith, hope and love, but the greatest of them is love."
From what you tell me, this lack of tolerance in your land is making for great unhappiness. That poor woman having to run away from an arranged marriage is so sad. I know that arranged marriages are still going on in the UK and elsewhere among certain faiths, and I've read about the fates that have befallen some women who've opposed the wishes of their families, including that these young girls have been murdered, with their family's 'blessing'. I'm assuming that you are surrounded by these restrictive practices, and it can't be pleasant for you. You are an example of a young man who knows his own mind, and whoever you are married to, or marry one day, will be a lucky girl. You've been writing on Celebheights ever since I can remember. I came here in 2016. You are educated well enough to know about Oscar Wilde and the controversy that surrounded gay people in the 19th Century. You form your own opinions about the stars on this website, so you possess a knowledge that many people would envy, which is great! I'm sure my brother would be interested to know that you work in a book store. He's a real bookworm and has hundreds upon hundreds of them. I partake in the reading of the historical ones! I'll point your comment out to him and tell you what he has to say. I know he'll be interested.
Thank you for writing to me Tunman. I'll be happy to share my views on any subject of your choosing.
Greetings to you and your loved ones,
All the very best!
Sandy XXX 😁👍🎄🐈🐶
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 13/Dec/20
Tunman, all of those things really...
Tunman said on 13/Dec/20
Well to be fair,things could have been much worse.While there are subjects that are definitely not allowed in public,things are way better than many countries like Pakistan,Afghanistan,Somalia and so on.My mother met an afghani refugee women when she travelled in Germany in 2014,she told her she fled after she was threatened for having refused to get married to a man she didn't love...
As for my country I would say it's possible to speak freely on some delicate subjects but more when you're with people you can trust.Social pressure(which I would actually call social dictatorship),however is too strong,in fact it could seem ironic but I would say that taken individually people could be divided between 50% tolerant and 50% bigots,but put them in groups definitely the dark(bigot) side will generally prevail.I would like to give an example which could summarize the whole thing: the chemistry in my street has 5 employees (although at least 11 persons in total worked there since 2008),all of them women wearing scarfs(religious sign);whenever 2 or more of them came to my shop together the tone would always be serious and they were quite distant as if they felt obliged not to look excessively friendly although a joke could be thrown sometimes,but if one of them came alone,things are way different and believe me with 2 of them the subjects we sometimes bring are surprising for women allegedly wanting to show they're religious:marriage,children,beauty,personal problems...they would even ask me to help them and make some little requests to me in particular as they know I'm the cool one here,they even allowed themselves to come behind my counter,something that would very rarely happen in a small bookshop but again they know I'm open and would never object about it,lol.Both of them stopped working in the chemistry but kept visiting me and finally got rid of the scarf.I felt it was more the pressure of the other girls that kept them wearing it as long as they worked;another girl who worked there for only 2 months in 2015 gave up as she categorically refused to wear it even for a second...so what's your opinion?
On the other side,what happened between 2011 and 2014 the "revolutionary"period in which I would say everything, literally everything,especially the worse was possible,due to the subsequent political chaos I saw sometimes things that could seem unbelievable for the 21st Century,too numerous(and too horrible) to be discussed here...
We never give up hoping though,some people are slowly opening their eyes...
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 13/Dec/20
@ Tunman - Oh I see - you're from Tunisia! My Mum and brother went on holiday to North Africa, firstly in Morocco and the following year, they went to Tunisia. Neither visit was for long enough to be able to report back what the tolerance levels were like. They went to Tunisia in '82, and brought me back pictures of ferrel cats, because they knew I'd like them, many of whom were merrily mating away in public! The cats weren't starved though. They'd gather round the hotels and even had bed and board there. Hearing that and seeing the pictures made me want to go there, but I've lived in areas in England where there have been strays, and I fed them myself, as did a lot of other people.
There was a boy in my class who had a crush on a female history teacher, and there was a bit of reciprocation going on there. It was easy to see by the way they looked at each other, but at my school, we were too mannerly to act on that sort of thing. Not so at college though! A young man in my class aged 17, but looking far older, had a fling with one of our lecturers! No one can help who they fall for, and when you're very young, it happens particularly often.
I feel for you living in an intolerant land. Things weren't at all tolerant in the 60s, despite the sexual revolution, which I was far too young to understand. In the 70s, thanks to the Glam Rock movement, long hair and high shoes became the norm for young men. You'd get the older people moaning that they couldn't tell the difference between the sexes, but I loved it, and quickly developed a taste for long-haired guys, which has never completely gone away. My Mum visited her brother in 1998 in Cologne, and told me that same sex couples were showing open displays of affection. It wasn't quite that bold in England then, but now they have same sex couples on dating shows, as indeed they should do! Why should people be persecuted for their sexuality, their religion, ANYTHING? It's so wrong, and even height and shape get descriminated against, which is madness.
Here's to tolerance all over the world one day: 🥂. We should all love and be loved, and make friends with whomever we want to.
Wishing you a fantastic December, Tunman!
Love and best wishes,
Sandy XXX 😁👍🎄
said on 12/Dec/20
Rob, I think he is standing slightly bent over in the photo I posted in my last comment (notice he has his one hand on his hip). So maybe he was in actual fact slightly taller than 7 heads and consequently his face length would have been a more reasonable 10-incher or perhaps a fraction less.
I would say near 6'1 range is not impossible, but I think 183-184cm is more likely.
his head size itself is very likely no less than 10 inches.
Tunman said on 11/Dec/20
Indeed,and yes it would have been interesting to see what some writers and philosophers would have thought of WW2 and its consequence like say Freud and others
And what if Voltaire managed to live until the french revolution,although dying at 83 in the 18th century was exceptional.I bet that someone who was jailed by the fallen regime and whose ideology and thoughts inspired the revolution itself would have been a charismatic figure in the subsequent events,and surely he would have had a significant influence on them.
Out of curiosity,since you're irish,how is Oscar Wilde perceived in your country?Is he a national hero?A martyr?A simple playwright studied in literature themes?Perhaps an icon for gay rights?Or maybe all of this together?
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 10/Dec/20
Tunman, true but my point is Wilde would’ve probably lived through that period had things been different. He was only 40 something when he died. WW1 and Ireland becoming a nation were well within his reach, he’d have lived to see that...WW2 maybe a bit of a stretch, that would place him well into his 80’s , which was like 100 back then and a rare life expectancy...
Tunman said on 9/Dec/20
I'm from Tunisia,in north Africa(hence the Tun part of my pseudo).
Both my parents being former university teachers,I had the chance of being open minded very early in life.
As for tolerance towards sexual minorities,well the first girl I ever fell in love with when I was only 14 was...my french teacher.How can I describe her?Physically I vaguely remember that she was rather tall(although back then I wasn't interested in that subject),always well dressed,polite,and most importantly extremely dedicated to her job,feeling a true responsibility to raise an educated generation,although most students didn't give a care.She appreciated me in particular as I was probably one of the very rare who were always listening.Useless to say that I never had a chance(and actually never even thought trying to speak to her of my feelings) since not only was she in her early 40's but also married and of course I was still under 18 and her student.Being in that extreme minority (who love a person they know is out of reach for them)and being always harrassed and kicked as I was a quite frail boy,I learned very early in life what it means to be marginalized.Ultimately those who endure that either end up hating anything outside what they consider the"norm"or develop a genuine empathy for those who suffer for whatever reason.
Unfortunately Tunisian society is intolerant and violent in its nature,working in a shop and meeting all society layers I can certify there's just too much violence and bigotry in general and the 2011 "Revolution" only brought more hate on the form of religious extremists,so sad...
Skin color,sexual orientation,disability,disease...all these aren't exactly a choice,hate or tolerance however are a choice.I can only wish the country as a whole will end up questioning itself on its values,especially that since 2011 the word democracy is ceaselessly brought on,mostly for the bad reasons alas...Seeing how the germans were in the 30's or 40's and how open they're today,there are reasons to hope
Thank you Sandy,it's always a pleasure to speak to you.
said on 9/Dec/20
It's a good point that "six feet" can be used as a generalized descriptor for people who are 6'0 and above. I initially thought Oscar Wilde was an example of this and that he was really well above six feet, but after having looked into it, I think he was close to that mark.
Check this photo out: Click Here
I don't see the proportions of a 6'2-6'3 man in that photo. Overall, looking at his legs, arms and frame, I think around 6'0 seems likely, especially in conjunction with his own claim. Anywhere in the 182-184cm range is possible based on that photo, I'd say. 183cm is right in the sweet spot and has my vote.
It is tricky with photos and perspective...although that photo doesn't look like it has much distortion.
In any case his body looks very close to exactly 7 heads tall in the photo.
If 6ft then his head about 10.25 there...if 6ft 3 his head about 10.75 inch there...but perspective and lens distortion can mess around with this.
I did a short video
showing how an object of fixed height and trying to calculate height from an object might not be so exact.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 9/Dec/20
@ Tunman - Excellent comment! (Re: 8/12/20).
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 9/Dec/20
@ Tunman - I was brought up from an early age that we are all equal. Sometimes - well often really - I count myself lucky to have been born a female. Had I not been, I'm sure I'd have battled against being my height and hated myself all the more. I'm 5ft1 in the morning, only once having measured myself at night, and I was the same height then. That was before my problems started with my hip replacement, which saw me down to 4ft11.
I have had many friends who were gay, and used to speak to them at great length, Tunman. One of them, who was around 5ft9, used to cry his heart out on my shoulder and tell me all sorts of things about how he felt. When he told me that I HAD to get into the film 'The Green Mile', I was able to tell him that I'd seen it, and that I thought it was beautiful too. If this is a judgement on his personality, that says it all. He had bleached blond hair and a very agreeable face, and he would come round at all times of the day and night, just to the have a chat, and was always welcome. He cried many times, and I understood where he was coming from.
I don't know where you live, Tunman, but I feel great sympathy for you. My Mum brought me up to be tolerant of all sexual persuasions, which was, I feel, a good thing.
When I was little, we had a lodger, a good Christian ex-monk. He'd fallen in love with a man and used to talk to me about him when I was just 8. It didn't worry me at all. He introduced me to the group 'The Mamas and the Papaa', and I was playing their music just last night. They sing about love and tolerance and I didn't fully understand where their heads were at until I grew up.
I'm always here if you want a chat, Tunman. Before I go, I'd like to tell you about another friend of mine. His name was Peter, he had a Siamese cat (who died, alas), and he was a very talented TV producer. He directed Elton John's 'Im Still Standing' video, and was great friends with many celebrities. I couldn't have known a nicer fellow. He cooked me a beautiful vegetarian meal, and that was when I met his cat.
Did you know, Tunman, that people with homosexual tenancies are far more artistically inclined than those who are heterosexual. This is something to be proud of, but it did its trick with Oscar Wilde. I don't know how it works with womankind, but I'd be most interested in anyone's views.
All the very best, Tunman. Ooh.... my phone knows your name!
Sandy XX 😁👍
Tunman said on 8/Dec/20
Every great mind that is lost is actually a great loss for humanity.Sometimes I wonder what it would have been if Socratees,Plato,Descartes,Hobbes,Locke,Voltaire but also some other great minds like Da Vinci,Al Khawarizmi,Newton and so on have lived in the 20th or 21st century.I mean how their genius would have handled all the contemporary challenges?In the most brilliant way,no doubt.Imagine that Beethoven or Mozart lived today when not only you have a larger artistic freedom but almost illimited means.I dare to say the great ones like Louis Armstrong,Michael Jackson,Bob Dylan would have been honored to meet them...and also much more humble
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 7/Dec/20
He looked quite leggy in photos and few would bat an eyelid at 6ft3. He was much heavier at the end though and those last photos aren’t much to go by. A photo of him with a group of others would be telling. At 6ft he’d stand out reasonably enough but at 6ft3 he’d look bloody massive...many don’t realise that 6ft3 was the 6ft6 of the day. But reports consistently make reference to his imposing stature. He looked like a guy that could hold his own in a scrap as well...Broad shouldered, large hands. Fascinating character through and through...and taken too early...probably would have lived much longer if he’d kept better company and for his own sake and his family’s, kept his internal struggles well concealed, as hard as it would have been...he’d have surely had another wave of literary brilliance in the 20th century...his thoughts on Titanic, WW1 and of course Irish independence...he’d have a field day with that! I dare say he could’ve even hung on till WW2 and given his two cents on that...and had some choice words for the Fuhrer.
Tunman said on 7/Dec/20
Unfortunately it's so hard to change mentalities.What happened to him is still the reality for gays in my country,not only that,but these people are forced to undergo a test in the case they're suspected of same-sex intercourse,not to speak about people denouncing this community to the police
No wonder that with a homophobic president who dares to claim these people are sick and should be treated,this will encourage bigotry towards that group.It's just pathetic to see how so many politicians are capitalizing on the hate towards a community when the genuine(rare)ones speak of tolerance,integation,leaving nobody marginalized...
As for Oscar,yeah I read 6'3 for him but since he claimed 6'that's of course ruled out.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 7/Dec/20
I find him a very attractive man. I've known some high-brow gays and can talk to them for hours without fear of the inevitable come-on!
Even that happened once though.... 😒
Possibly just over 6ft.
said on 7/Dec/20
Who knows really how tall he was...he’s in the same category as George Washington (also listed 6ft but was commonly described as big as 6ft4) We just don’t know...there aren’t any concrete photographic references to go by. 6ft would definitely in the late 1800’s be branded as stand out tall though...he would have been equivalent to what 6ft3 is today
it is one of the more unknowns and whilst I went with the quote/prison figure, there has been a lot of talk in the past about him a tall guy, 6ft 3, which many would go with.
Mickie said on 6/Dec/20
6'0" 195 lbs, as it sounds like he was documented to be, was legitimately a big guy in his time. It was probably more like a guy these days being at least something like 6'2" 230. So don't be surprised by the accounts of his size.
Slim 6'1" said on 6/Dec/20
Nik J Ashton said on 5/Dec/20
R.I.P Oscar Wilde.
Great add Rob.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 5/Dec/20
So I guess the 6'3" rumors weren't true after all.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 5/Dec/20
6ft in those days was on the cusp of very tall...there’s a general mystique with guys like Oscar Wilde where we may not really know his exact height. But I’ve said before “six feet” can be a generalised description that can apply to men as tall as 6ft3
Johnny 181-182 cm said on 5/Dec/20
I think each and every person who graduated school all around the world who studied English as their primary language has read at least one of Oscar Wilde's stories. The Selfish Giant always brought tears to my eyes every time I read it. Anyways @Rob can you make a page for JRR Tolkien? He claimed to be 5ft 8.5 in a letter.
Michael187BarefootInTheMornimg said on 4/Dec/20
Huh...I remember reading somewhere many years ago that claimed him as high as 6’3.” Kind of a shock seeing him this low.
Blanc (1.69 m) said on 4/Dec/20
Google has him at 191 cm lol
Animus said on 4/Dec/20
That’s interesting. I’ve seen him described as 6’3 and generally as a ‘huge’ guy (remember he lived in the late 1800s), but it seems he self-admittedly was 6’0 and weight-wise around 196lbs. I never would have thought I was the same size as Oscar Wilde.
vastlybetter566 said on 4/Dec/20
One of these historical figures listed as much taller than they were on Google.
He was and still is listed at 6ft3 on Google and I always imagined him to be a very tall guy for his time. He probably was rather tall, but not quite 6ft3.
vastlybetter566 said on 4/Dec/20
One of these historical figures listed as much taller than they were on Google.
He was and still is listed as 6ft3 on Google and I always imagined him to be a very tall guy for his time. He probably was rather tall, but not quite 6ft3.
ChaosControl (Formerly Known As J2Frenzy
said on 4/Dec/20
Thought he was supposed to be 6’3. I’ll guess 6’2 cause it won’t go any higher
he's writing a letter about clothes he needs after leaving prison and wants night shirts. If he were 6ft 3 it would be wise to mention it to the person entrusted in ordering them, since he wants the shirts long. However he mentions he's six feet.
then we have another book in which the author mentions the prison records have Wilde at under 14st and six feet.
Arch Stanton said on 4/Dec/20
Worth adding a prominent figure like him, to dispell the height myth if nothing else, I read 6 ft 3 for him but seemed high!! A similar kind of look and demeanor to Stephen Fry. Unbelievable how much the world has changed in 150 years!
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 4/Dec/20
I always read 6ft3!
said on 4/Dec/20
Rob, would 6ft for a young man in the 1800s be like 6ft4 for a youngster today?
In the 1880's to 90's it would be like 6ft 2-3
Johnny 181-182 cm
said on 4/Dec/20
Oscar Wilde, Rob. Wow! I did read a few of his stories in school. Top quality writer.
his name has been mentioned a few times on here and had a look to see if he ever mentioned a height...
Mickie said on 4/Dec/20
Almost 14 stone is heavier than I would've pictured.
Miss Sandy Cowell said on 4/Dec/20
What a wonderful sight - we have OSCAR WILDE! 🎊🎉 Hooray! 🎊🎉
The playwrite, who lived for only 46 years, yet achieved so much, simply HAD to be a tall guy because:
a) He was known for it and
b) Stephen Fry played him!
The poor man lived in a time when gays weren't just persecuted but went to prison, and that was the fate that befell Oscar. I'd have loved to crack open a bottle of wine with this great man! 🍾🥂🍷 You can tell from his plays that he was a very interesting fellow and would have been fantastic company.
6ft. 😆👌📖📔📙📒📝 Outstandingly tall for the 19th Century.
RIP Oscar Wilde 🕯️ - Forever young and gorgeous. XXX