Sid says on 20/Mar/10
Heres a video of kane and taker tagging agaist show and irvine..taker and show had a stand off.. pause it at 5:18 . show has 3 inches cause his head is leaning more. reality 4 inches click here Click Here
Benjamin Jones says on 20/Mar/10
K check this frank. I have a pic of taker, papa shango, and paul bearer from 92. papa shango is on his tip toes as far as he can go. that can give you up to 4.5 inches. Taker was slightly on his tip toes. but even with the bushy mop, taker was still a smidge taller than shango. now you state that paul bearer was 5'10'' ish? k well I did some estimating. if paul bearer is 5'10'' with his shoes on, if taker stood up straight, bearer would be right under his chin. we all know how long takers head is. standard height from the chin to the top of the head is 9 inches. If that is the case, taker would be 6'8'' in his nike shoes. paul was roughly 1 inch under takers chin. if u can look closely and base this on common knowledge. now takers head is in between 10-11 inches. soo this would mean if he were on his tip toes slightly, he would be an even seven feet. now grab a measure and try and blow that image up. papa shango is as far as he can go on his tip toes, and appears to have 12-14 inches on bearer. which would be 6'10''-7ft even. now I know its weird, but its sensible. now i believe in the pic, papa is getting 4-5 inches on his tip toes. I will subtract it from 6'10''. 6'5''-6'6''. taker 3-3.5 more 6'8''-6'9''. Now I know I stated that ted dibiase was not much shorter than papa when he was kama, but It couldve been the same amount over ted, that taker has on he. 3-3.5. so either way, we know ted dibiase is 6'2''-6'3'' and kama had about 3 on he, puts kama 6'5''-6'6'', taker according to this site has 5.5 inches on dibiase. so still, if ted dibiase were 6'3'' at that time and taker had 5.5 inches on he, that puts taker at 6'8.5. so still it looks like taker is between 6'7.5-6'9'' peak height. what do u think frank? I know someone has that pic of papa, taker, and bearer. post it and do some serious mathematics! Ill try and post it. Joey says on 20/Mar/10
to SHOCK. Frank said himself that on the picture taken on this website, he was on an upwards slope and had a 1-1.5 inch advantage on undertaker. Frank says on 19/Mar/10
Hi Benjamin Jones some of the height estimates i dont agree with Taker did look very tall to me when i met him i dont think he's below 6ft 7 yo! says on 19/Mar/10
Myself and my friend met shad in a bar recently. I'm 5'11.5 and I was just about up to his nose. Nice guy too! He had flat shoes on as well! Shock says on 19/Mar/10
Nash and Sid have both said Taker is 6'9", and they both say they are about 1" taller than they actually are. It's been said that Paul Bearer stated in an interview that Taker is about an inch taller than Kane, but I have yet to find this interview. I sent Paul an email about it many months ago, but he never responded. I know he's been going through a lot over the last year with his wife passing, but I had not realized that until after I sent the email. I doubt I'll get an answer.
tna_fever - solid 6'6" for Taker is impossible. He's never appeared any less than a strong 6'7" unless there was a discrepancy in footwear or his posture. Saying strong 6'6" is just as credible as saying Khali is under 7'.
Right before the pick up for the chokeslam, where Taker looks 2" taller than Shad, you can clearly tell Taker is hunching to get his shoulder under Shad's armpit, on top of that Shad could even be slightly on his toes. When he chokeslams Shad, it looks exactly like when he chokeslammed JBL, but yet, he's at least 3" taller than JBL, who is unquestionably 6'5" minimum, not a strong 6'3" like you think.
Just looking at the picture on this page, with 5'11.5" Frank, Taker is over 8" taller than him, as his forehead is very nearly 5", and from his eyebrows to his mouth is nearly another forehead height.
So, even if we underestimated it using my own dimensions of 7.5" from center mouth to the top of my head, that would make him 6'7". So, he's gotta be taller than that since his head is obviously bigger than mine (9.5" on 5'8").
6'6.5" Taker makes Frank 5'10". If that's true, I can believe Taker is under 6'7". Benjamin Jones says on 19/Mar/10
Hey Folks! Frank ya still around? I read a bunch of these comments. WOW! If taker is 6'6'' that means papa shango is 6'3'' as well as the underfaker, which would make nash about 6'7 1/2'' 6'8''. sid 6'6 3/4'', crush 6'3.5-6'4''. ect.... Good grief! I do wonder though. because when papa shango was kama, ted dibiase sr was almost his height. but Ive seen those ring ropes personally, and I have an uncle that looks like mr clean, he stands a solid 6'3'' and theres no way he could step over the ropes as easily as kama. Im the exact same height as frank on here, and Im sure frank gets the impression of being 6'1'' as I do sometimes. Ive even gotten 6'2'' when I was skinny before lifting weights. So these guys can easily get away with their billed heights. I know that when kama was the soultaker back in 89-90, he was billed as high as 6'8'' and a weight of 320 lbs! lowest Ive seen is 6'4'' 302lbs. so I wonder. He didnt stand much taller than ted dibiase in 95. taker appears to be about 3-3.5 inches over kama. and If taker is 6'6'', mable would be 6'5.5'' big show 6'10-6'10.5''. gosh tna, your measurements are waaaaaaaaaay off! get a tape measure out and compare 4 inches to 2 inches. nash was at most 2 inches over taker! lol we have a near blind person on here making comments frank... LOL miko says on 19/Mar/10
A 6"6 Taker would put Kane at 6"6, Big Show at 6"10, Khali at 6"11 and screw a lot more heights up. It would put Randy Orton, Hulk Hogan, Edge etc at 6"2!
A 6"6 Taker is not possible. The lowest he can be in 2010, is a FLAT 6"7.
Taker is still over 6"7 when he stands straight. Probably lost a fraction of height through injuries and age, but not a noticeable amount. hs2010 says on 19/Mar/10
Clay says on 18/Mar/10
I think Nash is being a little generous for Taker there. I buy 6'8 though.
I totally agree. 6'9" in wrestling boots, but 6'8" barefoot for The Undertaker IMO. Nash wouldn't put Taker at only 1" shorter than himself if he was really 3/4" shorter. Joey says on 18/Mar/10
who is this TNA_FEVER guy? he keeps stating people's heights wrong all the time. He says nash has 3-4 inches on Taker and yet theres only 1.5 (2 max) inches difference between them. Undertaker 6'8 - Nash 6'9.5 Frank says on 18/Mar/10
Taker told me personally he was 6ft 9 and he looked it But i believe going by photos hes in the 6ft 7 to 6ft 8 range tna_fever says on 18/Mar/10
shock, the moment where taker stands up straight before executing the chokeslam on shad, you cannot see either man's legs, so you are just making biased assumptions.
Sorry, I still say Taker is a sold 6'6 , no more than that.
I think Nash's comments on Taker's height is purely of discretion rather than the truth. Clay says on 18/Mar/10
I think Nash is being a little generous for Taker there. I buy 6'8 though. Clay says on 17/Mar/10
tna is gold. Pure gold. Robby says on 17/Mar/10
Ok guys I just asked Kevin Nash himself on his twitter page on how tall Undertaker is. he responded a few hours later. his answer surprised me. here is what I wrote rwalter99
@RealKevinNash if you're 6'10" .how tall does that make Undertaker legitimately? I have this debate where this guy say Taker is only 6'6"
RealKevinNash
@rwalter99 mark is 6-9. Ok let the debates start. but Nash himself says Taker is 6'9". Shock says on 17/Mar/10
tna_fever, his legs are bent and far apart when they turn position and Taker appears to be 5" taller than him. When they are standing during the freeze frame, that's your difference, on top of that Shad's got a .25" advantage in footwear. The only thing I'll give to Shad's disadvantage is the way his head is positioned but that's it. Taker is definitely 3-3.5" taller, whatever height Shad is.
Robby, there's really no need to compare Taker to guys from the past since people assume he's lost height, especially guys like Nash who also have debated heights. I think it's a perceptual thing. People just felt Taker was taller 15 to 20 years ago and do not take his gimmick posture into consideration.
It's guys like JBL, HBK, etc, who have been around in the last year and we have a reasonable beliefe to pin their height, who still show Taker to be 6'8", but to be thorough, Taker was no more than 1.5" shorter than Nash in 1995/1996. Nash's max peak height I put at 6'9.75", could be down to 6'9" now but I'm really uncertain as a lot of TNA guys are relatively short and there's so much leeway for guys like Scott Hall and Abyss who right around 6'5".
Kane's 7 foot bill is a vague listing, they use it, but he is officially a "shade under 7 feet" n the most technical sense. This comes from his debut when they gimmicked their footwear enough to make Kane look 1" taller than Taker, resulting in an unwritten 6'11.5" bill for Kane. Compared to Big Show's 7'2" bill in 1999 and Taker's 6'10.5", Kane was a 6'11.5" bill in his 2"+ lifts. Kane's 4.5" shy of 7', not 6" shy of 6'11.5 Big Show, and I say damm worthy of a 6'10" bill, which he was billed as Isaac Yankem. Kane should still be billed 6'10".
There's a whole lot of continuity there when you consider boots. They were all billed around 2" - 2.5" taller than their actual heights at some point.
6'6" Undertaker = below 6'3" for JBL. It's shocking that you accept Shad at 6'5" to 6'6" and I believe he's 6'5" max, while you suggest Taker is 1" taller. All of this is just bizarre and hard to debate because it's so much of a stretch and there's no continuity.
As far as boots go, Taker's are, to the best of my knowledge, 1.2", Shad's are standard 1.5" Tims, Michaels casual boots look to be as much as 1.75", but his regular wrestling boots are just under 1". Kane's boots are 1.5 - 1.75", I think they give him somewhere between that due to the unorthodox heel shape similar to Big Show's.
Here's a list of all the above mentioned wrestlers, with their peak heights in their wrestling boots:
Big Show: 7'1"
Kevn Nash: 6'10.5"
Undertaker: 6'9.5" (slightly over 6'9" in 95, slightly under 6'9" from 97 to 99)
Kane: 6'9" (6'9.75 from 97 - 99, 6'8.5 from 95 to 96)
Shad: 6'6.5
JBL: 6'6"
HBK: 6'0.5" (6'1.25 in casual boots)
My bottom line peak height estimate for Taker is exactly 204cm tna_fever says on 17/Mar/10
hs2010, if you watch the video for the 3rd time, (sorry), you will find that you cannot see how Shad was standing when Taker put him in the choke.
Taker is just over 2 inches taller than 6'4 JBL. Chris says on 17/Mar/10
Brian Posehn, the stand-up comedian that's about 6'6" ish said this today via twitter:
"Kicking myself for not getting a pic with the Undertaker. He looked grouchier than usual. Weird, he's only about an inch taller than me." hs2010 says on 17/Mar/10
If you watch the video (for the 3rd time) then you can see the exact footwear that both Undertaker and Shad are wearing, which is the same footwear that they always wear to the ring so that critique really makes no sense.
Plus, Undertaker at 6'6" makes JBL well under 6'5" which we know is bull because he was identical in height to 6'5" General Odierno. tna_fever says on 17/Mar/10
Robby & hs2010
You are going by screenshots and videos where their stance and/or footwear is not revealed, so you cannot judge the heights that way.
In the WM12 match and that 6 man tag match, I see 4 inch difference between Nash and Taker.
I like Undertaker, he is an icon, but I think WWE has really overbilled him since 1990, the same with Kane. You cant be called nearly 7ft and yet be 6 inches shorter than a real 7 footer like the Big Show. hs2010 says on 17/Mar/10
In Shock's pic Shad is clearly stood up straight! Watch the video I posted and you can see that's the point when Shad straightens up. In Joey's pic Undertaker has bent his legs and Shad is tip-toeing getting ready for the Chokeslam, hence Undertaker only looks 1" taller. When both are stood up straight Undertaker is obviously 3" taller, forget 1" or 2".
Undertaker is a legit 6'8" man IMO whether some of you want to accept it or not. Robby says on 16/Mar/10
1" max? are you nuts? did you not see Shock's pics? first off Shad wears work boots which gives a good inch or so. I would say 6'6" in those boots. 6'5" barefoot. Taker is not 6'6.5" he wasnt 3.5" or 4" shorter then Kevin Nash. I have proof of that on Sid's page where I posted a video of Taker, Diesel and HBK in a backstage segment. I have pics of when Diesel attacked Taker in the casket match from Royal Rumble 1994. the backstage segment from IYH 5 in 1995 where they are face to face and does anyone have a video or pics from the MTV special they had in 1995 where the fans voted on a match where it ended up being Diesel and Taker vs. Bam Bam Bigelow and Jeff Jarrett? also as mentioned below with that six man tag team match their are shots of Taker and Diesel standing next to each other not a significant amount of height like 3.5"-4" would be. Undertaker is 6'8" Nash I would say is 6'10" I agree with you on that much. titan22 says on 16/Mar/10
Think its time for an upgrade to 6ft 8in, because thats his height Rob he has stated it many times. Even in the official undertaker magazine they had his real height at 6ft 8in. hs2010 says on 16/Mar/10
tna_fever says on 15/Mar/10
hs2010
Shad who is billed at 6'7 is probably around 6'5-6'6 at best. Taker hardly had any height over him, maybe 1 inch max.
Lol, okay. We're seeing different things I think. tna_fever says on 16/Mar/10
shock, you cannot see the stance shad is in when Taker has him setup for the chokeslam, it is most likely his knees are bent and legs apart.
Shad 6'5
Taker 6'6.25 tna_fever says on 15/Mar/10
hs2010
Shad who is billed at 6'7 is probably around 6'5-6'6 at best. Taker hardly had any height over him, maybe 1 inch max. Shock says on 15/Mar/10
During the replay of the chokeslam they happen to freeze frame Taker at ramrod posture (same as the 8:45 mark mentioned by hs2010), he's about 3.5" taller than Shad. Shad I use to put at 6'5" even, but I would say just under 6'5" is possible. He seemed 6'5" when I met him at the Garden but the boots are pretty big. I just think it's interesting how he comes out proportionally taller to anyone in his height range who has a 2" overbill, but yet people still think he's 3, or even 4" over. Ridiculous, he's not Big John Studd.
Here's a few recent shots
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Shawn's boot advantage evens out any claims of "He's leaning leaning his head back so he would really come up to his nose."
Also Joey, it should be pointed out that even as is, if Taker's head wasn't tilted down, Frank would be in line with his mouth, which means he'd be be at least 8.5" taller based on an 11" Undertaker head. Joey says on 15/Mar/10
going back to a post on the 11th of December by Frank (the person in the main picture) he said he is standing on an upwards slope, giving him and inch or 2 advantage. If the webmaster is basing undertakers height from the picture but did not know this fact he may have judged his height to be 1-2 inches less than it is. I still firmly believe Undertaker is a Weak 6'8. in his prime he was a strong 6'8. Joey says on 15/Mar/10
I've watched the video and this seems to be the point where the two are standing up straight. Click Here
Clearly looks about 1-2 inches taller. Shad is billed at 6'6/7 Clay says on 15/Mar/10
He deserves to be mocked for an estimate like Show having ''6-7'' inches on Undertaker, Danimal. hs2010 says on 13/Mar/10
When The Undertaker chokeslammed Shad from Cryme Tyme on Smackdown I was shocked by how much clearly taller than Shad he was. Shad looked about 6'6 with General Odierno and Undertaker was clearly looking down on Shad, even though Shad was wearing chunky work boots.
Check out this video from 8:45: Click Here
Undertaker still looks 6'8" today when he stands up straight IMO. Danimal says on 12/Mar/10
Clay says on 11/Mar/10
tna_fever says on 10/Mar/10
I disagree, "WWE" - Taker is a strong 6'6
Big Show is around 7ft, he has 6-7 inches on taker and show, and only 1 inch on Kevin Nash.
Hahahaa.
Such an arrogant little man you are. Shock says on 11/Mar/10
Taker looked consistently 8.5" - 9" taller than HBK in their promo on RAW. Shawn, even in his big work boots, coming up to Taker's mouth because Taker wasn't in his typical Deadman posture due to the out of character verbalization. I really don't believe at full posture he is anything under 6'8" to this day. Clay says on 11/Mar/10
tna_fever says on 10/Mar/10
I disagree, "WWE" - Taker is a strong 6'6
Big Show is around 7ft, he has 6-7 inches on taker and show, and only 1 inch on Kevin Nash.
Hahahaa. tna_fever says on 11/Mar/10
Sorry guys I meant Kane, not "show". LOL Clay says on 10/Mar/10
WWE says on 10/Mar/10
The Undertaker's real height is 6'5.
Hahahaa. Joey says on 10/Mar/10
might as well just delete the post by "WWE" 6'5 ? LOL. He's betweeen 6'7-6'8. tna_fever says on 10/Mar/10
I disagree, "WWE" - Taker is a strong 6'6
Big Show is around 7ft, he has 6-7 inches on taker and show, and only 1 inch on Kevin Nash. WWE says on 10/Mar/10
The Undertaker's real height is 6'5.
Big show 6'11
Chris Jericho 5'8
Christian 5'11
Triple H 6'2
Batista 6'2
Batista,Undertaker, and Triple H look tall on TV until you see them up close then there way shorter then you expected them to be. Paul says on 9/Mar/10
If he was taller than Hogan in the 1990's he must have been nearer 6'5. NCL says on 8/Mar/10
Cool, thanks Frank. I always pegged Sid at 6'7" - 6'7.5" peak but I have to admit Stevie Ray looks really tall next to him. Frank says on 7/Mar/10
Stevie Ray is about 6ft 4 he was billed @ 6ft 6 he was slightly taller than Hogan in the NWO NCL says on 6/Mar/10
Funny segment with Sid in street clothes. Anyone know how tall Stevie Ray is?
Click Here Vegas says on 6/Mar/10
if sids boots have internal lifts his knees would be alot higher..... Joey says on 4/Mar/10
Sid's shoes could possible have internal lifts in them. Looks abit suspicious. I'd say Sid is 6'6.5 with 1.5 lifts making him 6'8 and taker is 6'8 with .5 boots making him 6'8.9
I remember watching "This is My Yard" undertaker dvd, and he said himself hes "6'8-6'9" Frank says on 3/Mar/10
I seen Sid in Street clothes many year ago i have to be honest he did not look as tall as i thought he would i believe alot of these guys wear lifts in there Wrestling Boots Cz says on 2/Mar/10
Great pic Joey.. There Taker looks about 6'8.5 and Sid looks about 6'8.25.. Sid and Taker were always close in height.. I don't know what idiot said that Sid was only 6'5.5 but that is very untrue.. Sid is a big man.. I do think Sid is atleast 6'8 Joey says on 2/Mar/10
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Great picture showing Taker and Sid staredown. Both have similar footwear. Taker looks .5in Taller in my opinion. Tuga says on 27/Feb/10
So now nash was 4-5 inches taller than taker...
Click Here Frank says on 26/Feb/10
Here an old picture with Hall & Taker theres more than a 2 inch difference here
ho Click Here this comes out Anonymous says on 26/Feb/10
Undertaker at 6'6? Errr No. 6'7.5 Minimum. Cz says on 26/Feb/10
I don't think Taker is as small as 6'6.. I think leaving him at 6'7.5 is fair.. He does not appear to be that much smaller in height next to Show.. Show maybe has about 4 inches on him... Nothing more tna_fever says on 26/Feb/10
Vegas, there are numerous times Hall appeared around 6 or so inches shorter than Nash. We can agree that Taker is 2 inches taller than Hall in that previous pic, which makes Taker 6'6 maximum.
Remember these are large men, so inches appear much smaller than you think when comparing wrestlers as big as they are. Vegas says on 26/Feb/10
tna_fever says on 25/Feb/10
Yes Vegas, you just helped me confirm Taker is around 6'6
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is today backwards days lol, i just showed how wrong you were to claim scott hall and taker were both 6'6 peak, that video is from the mid 80s when hall would have been no more than late 20s. taker has him by 2 inches easy so that means scott hall was no more than 6'4 peak, probably slightly less in fact, of course a 6'4 or less hall makes a mockery of your claims that nash stood 6'11 because there was never close to 7+ inches between those guys tna_fever says on 25/Feb/10
Yes Vegas, you just helped me confirm Taker is around 6'6 Vegas says on 25/Feb/10
at the 2 minute mark the camera angle is in takers favour, look at Shinya Hashimoto (white headband) over takers left shoulder towering taker by 6 inches even though he was billed at 6ft flat, i don't see a full 3 inches there between hall and taker when the camera angle is even Anonymous says on 25/Feb/10
Vegas, look at your vid with scott hall, look just after the 2 minutes mark cos that is not 2 inches. Clay says on 24/Feb/10
Nash and big Show both 5'11 (in the freakin wcw days none the less) and kurt Angle/HHH both 6'1'' is blatant reason to believe tna is nothing but a troll. Rob, ban this goof. Pure Dynamite says on 24/Feb/10
tna_fever says on 23/Feb/10
Sorry about the height I put for JBL guys, typo mistake, should have put him as a solid 6'3
More about 6'4.5 minimum. JBL is more like 6'5. jeffrey says on 24/Feb/10
i met taker once im 6 foot 5 and when i took a pic with him he stood on his tippy toes to make himself about 4 inches taller he 6 foot 7 Vegas says on 24/Feb/10
morgan was listed at 6'10 in basketball Click Here i have met the guy on 3 occasions, easily 6'8 Click Here
wight was listed taller than nash in ncaa that in itself should be a clue as to who is taller Click Here Click Here wight and nash staredown in wwe, still clearly taller despite wearing ankle boots Click Here hs2010 says on 24/Feb/10
Clay says on 22/Feb/10
tna is a troll that isnt worth the time.
Agreed, his estimates are so absurd that it's not even worth correcting him. For example, JBL is easily 6'5" since he was the same height as General Odierno yet tna_fever has him at 6'2"-6'3". Ridiculous! NCL says on 23/Feb/10
Just kidding it says 1993 write above the screen. My bad :>) NCL says on 23/Feb/10
Undertaker vs. Razor Ramon (Hall) about 1992 Click Here screen caps (credit to MikeV10) Click Here tna_fever says on 23/Feb/10
Nash was very easily 6'10 - 6'11 no matter what footwear he had. Paul Wight/Giant/Big show was around the same height but thanks to a large head and had some pretty chunky footwear, he had the so called 3 inches in height over big Nash when he joined WCW.
Put them both in barefeet and I think they would be very close in height.
Nash easily had 4-5 inches on 6'6 Taker. Notice how Taker never had a full shot staredown in the ring against Nash when he was Diesel? How would Jim ross and the WWF/WWE cover up the stupid over generious 6'10.5 billing they give to Taker when their 7 ft big man easily appeared larger by several inches in height and 50-60 lbs in mass without making it so obvious in a direct stand off? Heck, back around that time, 6'6 billed Goldust was the same size as Taker!
I am not convinced that Matt morgan is anywhere near 7ft, he is 6'7.5, and old silver haired Nash easily looked taller than him.
Sorry about the height I put for JBL guys, typo mistake, should have put him as a solid 6'3
Peace ... Anonymous says on 23/Feb/10
Kane looks at least an inch taller than Taker so it's mean that he is 6'6.5 ???? Anonymous says on 23/Feb/10
I would say that UnderTaker is nowdays 6'6.75 or exactly 2 meters not less or more, perhaps 2,02 m in the morning I saw him a couple of weeks ago running with someone I was with my 6'6.25 tall friend as we talked a bit, they had very close the same height. Paul says on 23/Feb/10
Hi Vegas good to hear from ya.
Guess I've made me-self a bit of a 'reputation' on here....
However tna-fever is not me I promise you lol....
I hope you believe me. JT says on 22/Feb/10
Totally forgot about that video, Vegas. Unless Hall had a big footwear advantage, that video should have pretty much ended the discussion of 6'8" or more for Taker. Click Here Clay says on 22/Feb/10
tna is a troll that isnt worth the time. Danimal says on 22/Feb/10
Pure Height, I like how you believe that there was only 1" difference between a PEAK Nash and Big Show. did you not watch WCW from 1996-1998? Paul Wight had close to 3" on Nash and you're also giving Nash a FULL INCH taller than his LISTED basketball height of 6'10"??? haha. Vegas says on 22/Feb/10
scott hall and taker side by side in the 1980s, as you can see taker is about 2 inches taller Click Here Click Here Big Show says on 22/Feb/10
Vegas says on 18/Feb/10
tna_fever is that you paul??
nash and big show same height?? Click Here
jbl and batista same height?? jbl was listed at 6'5 in the nfl and wlaf, no way he is as short as 6'2
cena has the best part of 3 inches on kurt angle Click Here how can you claim angle is 6'1 and hogan is 6'2, have you watched them on tna together, hogan has towered kurt angle every time, angle is 5'10 Click Here
samoa joe is 5'11, taker is taller than 6'6 today, met the guy again in november, huge man, you have morgan too short by about an inch you have nash too tall by about an inch, hhh too short, khali too short, andre wasn't no 6'7 in the late 80s, look at his staredowns with john studd at WM5 in 89, with warrior in 88, with duggan in 87-88 (whom i met a few years ago and is 6'2)
The funniest part I thought was that tna_fever has Kurt Angle at 6'1" and JBL at 6'2". JBL must have had some massive lifts then, because he towered over Kurt Angle. Pure Dynamite says on 21/Feb/10
tna_fever:
Are you serious? JBL 6'2? Kurt Angle 6'1? Only one ince difference between these two? Never ever! More like 6 oder 7 inces...
Giant Gonzalez = 7'6.5
Khali = 7'1
Big Show = 6'11 (7' peak)
Kevin Nash = 6'10 (6'11 peak)
Andre = 6'10 (6'11.5 peak)
Matt Morgan = 6'9
Kane = 6'7.5
Sid = 6'7
Taker = 6'7. (6'8 peak)
Viscera = 6'6
Scott Hall = 6'5
JBL = 6'5
Sting 6'2
Hogan = 6'3 (6'5 peak)
Batista = 6'3
HHH = 6'2
Samoa Joe = 5'11.5
Kurt Angle = 5'10
Cena = 6'0.5
Steve Austin = 6'1
HBK = 5'11 Anonymous says on 20/Feb/10
tna fever:
dude your heights are mad off... khali is over 7 feet in real life, andre the giant was not 6'7! thats ridiculous.. jbl only 6'2! hes about half an inch shorter than taker if you see them side by side... i dont know where you got your info from... Xray says on 19/Feb/10
I agree with most of those heights tna, except HBK is more like 5'10. Ray says on 19/Feb/10
Yeah, real Taker Calaway was a lot taller and bigger all around than the fake Taker Lee. I saw this when it first aired thought right away the fake Undertaker looked smaller. That's good they did it that way because nothing beats the original, escpecially in this case. Clay says on 18/Feb/10
So Kurt Angle and HHH are the same height tna? Cool. hs2010 says on 18/Feb/10
So Nash was 6'11" at his peak and Taker only 6'6"? So how come there was only 2" between them in the mid-1990's? Taker must've been packing some stilts inside his boots :D
Also, Scott Hall the same peak height as Taker? Hogan & JBL at 6'2" peak? Batista and JBL the same height? Kurt Angle 6'1", making him taller that Stone Cold, John Cena and Shawn Michaels? WTF! miko says on 18/Feb/10
Tna, those heights are absurd. Vegas says on 18/Feb/10
tna_fever is that you paul??
nash and big show same height?? Click Here
jbl and batista same height?? jbl was listed at 6'5 in the nfl and wlaf, no way he is as short as 6'2
cena has the best part of 3 inches on kurt angle Click Here how can you claim angle is 6'1 and hogan is 6'2, have you watched them on tna together, hogan has towered kurt angle every time, angle is 5'10 Click Here
samoa joe is 5'11, taker is taller than 6'6 today, met the guy again in november, huge man, you have morgan too short by about an inch you have nash too tall by about an inch, hhh too short, khali too short, andre wasn't no 6'7 in the late 80s, look at his staredowns with john studd at WM5 in 89, with warrior in 88, with duggan in 87-88 (whom i met a few years ago and is 6'2) tna_fever says on 17/Feb/10
meh, cant see Taker anymore than 6'6 peak - that brain lee must only be 6'1 thereabouts
Giant Gonzalez = 7'5 (had nearly 1 foot on taker)
Khali = 6'11.25
Big Show = 6'10.5 (6'11 peak)
Kevin Nash = 6'10 (6'11 peak easily)
Andre = 6'9.5 (peak) - 6'7 (late 80's)
Matt Morgan = 6'7.5
Kane = 6'6.5 (6'8 with them lifts)
Sid = 6'6
Taker = 6'6 (peak, prolly 6'5.5 now)
Viscera = 6'5.5
Scott Hall = 6'4.5 (6'6 peak)
JBL = 6'2
Sting 6'2
Hogan = 6'2 (6'4 peak in the 80's)
Batista = 6'2
HHH = 6'1
Samoa Joe = 6'1
Kurt Angle = 6'1
Cena = 6'0
Steve Austin = 6'0
HBK = 5'11
Peace... NCL says on 17/Feb/10
Nice photo Red, nice video examples Vegas. Shows a great deal about how powerful camera angles are. In this photo red posted UT is quite a bit taller Click Here Vegas says on 17/Feb/10
dibiase looked very tall there next to ~5'10 jerry lawler in that first video i posted Click Here
i wouldn't go lower than 6'2 for a peak ted and he was listed at 6'3 in college football so thats the highest you could go, ted might have been lower by 1994, he had already retired by that point due to injury and surgeries, he has his legs spread wide in that second video next to michaels if you watch again, that has to do with the fact that he was in or around the same height as brian lee (certainly not 4 inches shorter), dibiases height like the announcer at WM2's height was detrimental to the star they were trying to push, in this case lee and at WM2 andre. Paul says on 17/Feb/10
I agree with Robs listing which relates to Undertaker of today, not 15 years ago. Anonymous says on 17/Feb/10
Red says on 16/Feb/10
'Brian Lee was clearly not wearing lifts'.
Could you imagine Vince McMahon not trying to make Lee as tall as possible under the circumstances ? The heels look pretty big to me. Anonymous says on 16/Feb/10
Vegas, that video proved only one thing: dibiase was no way NEAR 6'3... he had 1 inch on shawn! Red says on 16/Feb/10
Paul says on 16/Feb/10
04.26.... Big lifts for fake UT
Click Here
07.00-07.11...compared to real UT
Click Here
Brian Lee was clearly not wearing lifts. He´s 6´3.5"-6´4" and Taker had 3.5"-4" on him. Click Here The camera angle helps Lee here, but we can still see that Taker is another height league.
I can´t see Taker under 6´7", but I can´t see him over 6´8" too.
I think Rob is spot on with this listing NCL says on 16/Feb/10
I'm having a hard time finding a shot of their staredown where the angle isn't in Brian Lee's favor but here are two to chew on for a while: Click Here and Click Here kind of reminds me of the UT/Papa Shango staredown: Click Here if the angle were like this, I think it might be closer to that height difference Paul says on 16/Feb/10
Yes, and 6'7 would still only have given him 3.75in over circa 6'3.25 (in shoes) Dibiase. If you watch all footage available of the two together, that seems about right. Vegas says on 16/Feb/10
paul, lee is wearing the exact same boots there that taker wore from 1990-jan 94
the angle in that staredown is low and also in lees favour and still taker is clearly the taller man, its similar to this sid/sting staredown at roughly 1 min 30 secs Click Here now a much better angle at 4 mins 13 secs Click Here Vegas says on 16/Feb/10
brian lee stood 6'7 in his boots?? Click Here Paul says on 16/Feb/10
04.26.... Big lifts for fake UT
Click Here
07.00-07.11...compared to real UT
Click Here Paul says on 15/Feb/10
Alex, I think he was about 6'4.5 barefoot and 6'7 with the boots. If you watch Underfaker matches you'll see they made him as tall as was possible. Raising height by 2.5in is about the outer limit without looking too crazy. I think the real UT was 6'9.75 in boots in 1994 and 1 inch less barefoot. Cz says on 15/Feb/10
Guys, sorry to say, but I think Chainz was a legitimate 6'4 or maybe even a 6'4 and 3 quarters.. When you see the Undertaker Vs. Undertaker match, you can see that Chainz had on lifts, but they were not humongous.. I think 6'7.5 sounds fair for Taker and 6'4.5 is fair for Chainz.. Brian Lee was listed as 6'5 before his Fake Taker days.. And I believe he's very close to it.. He's a big guy.. I know because I'm 6'3 and when I met him a few years back, he was about 2 inches taller than me.. Anonymous says on 15/Feb/10
i always remember brian lee being about 6'4. He had 2 inch lifts on when he faced undertaker so that made him 6'6. but undertaker was a few inches taller than him still, so Undertaker was and still is 6'8. Vegas says on 15/Feb/10
for one the camera angle was low and was in lee favour at summerslam 1994, i don't think taker ever saw 6'8 either
maybe lee did have lifts but if you notice in the buildup to that match dibiase and paul bearer would always purposefully try to make themselves shorter standing next to brian lee by spreading their legs, classic example as soon as lee enters the ring dibiases' posture changes it was so noticeable to me back in the day watching it, lee didn't look much if any over 6'3 to me Click Here compare that to how sid measured up next to dibiase, no need for him to spread his legs here Click Here
on a side note austin and taker are eye to eye here Click Here Alex says on 14/Feb/10
If the fake UT was 6'3 he must have had some BIG lifts on then because he was about eye to eye with the real UT who was 6'8 at that time. Cz says on 9/Feb/10
Brandon Jacobs, I think you're an idiot.. The Harris Brothers were never taller than Taker or Kane. I think Mike V10's estimates are just fine. Chainz - 6'4, Crush 6'5.5, and Harris Brothers were 6'6 and some change.. The Undertaker is 6'8, Kane was 6'8.5 + his 1.5 lifts made him about 6'10.. Vegas says on 9/Feb/10
brian lee aka chainz used to be billed at 6'3 prior to playing the fake undertaker character in 1994 NCL says on 8/Feb/10
MikeV10, nice photos! I actually remember having that magazine.
Btw, I believe Chainz, the guy with the mustache and beard, was the fake Undertaker from Summerslam '94. justin bailey says on 8/Feb/10
That photo does not do a justice!!!! MikeV10 says on 7/Feb/10
my estimations for this guys:
Chainz - 6`4
Crush - 6`5,5
Harris bros - 6`6,5
Click Here NCL says on 6/Feb/10
btw one of the Harris Bros walks behind Kane at the 1:08 mark so they're on an even plane. He is in motion but just wanted to point it out. NCL says on 6/Feb/10
This is the closest thing I can find with Harris Bros, Kane and Undertaker. Judge for yourselves. Kane enters at about the 1 min mark, UT shortly after:
Click Here George says on 6/Feb/10
harrıs boys were lısted at 6-6 ın wcw jake-O says on 6/Feb/10
i meant 2-2.5 inches that taker had over crush. and those twins had at least that over crush as well. brandon JaCobs aka jake-O says on 4/Feb/10
Cz Youre a nut! dude those two are either the same height or taller than kane! u r crazy! look at the height those guys had over crush, who was only 2 inches or 2.5 inches over taker, and those guys looked to have 2-3 inches over crush. so obviously, everyone believes in kayfabe. kane and taker are either the same height, or kane has a little over em. although at royal rumble 03 taker appeared the taller of the two, so who knows there. but the harris twins are every bit as tall as tyler mane who has about 1 inch on taker. soo until I see proof, I agree with justin bailey and benjamin jones. Cz says on 4/Feb/10
Guys, I definately think that Taker was a strong 6'8.5.. Today, I think he's a legit 6'8. He still fairs pretty well next to Khali (7'0.5).. Big show is 6'11-6'11.5 today.. Sid I think was 6'7.5-6'8.. During his face off with the Undertaker at Mania 13, they looked to be about the same height.. And as for Kane not looking taller than the Harris brothers??? Kane is a legit 6'8.. I think both of the Harri's Brothers are 6'6.5.. Kane with his 1.5 inch lifts meant he stood at 6'9.5.. Had 3 inches on the Harris Brothers ATLEAST.. Live DEBACO says on 30/Jan/10
Im willin and able to bet that taker was 2 shades under 6'8'' years ago, and probably a few shades over 6'7''. This estimate does seem accurate. he can look anywhere between 6'6-6'9''. Paul says on 28/Jan/10
Vegas says on 27/Jan/10
'some of them are good and some of those are awful estimations'
thanks Vegas. hs2010 says on 28/Jan/10
That pic Vegas just posted of Hogan with legit 5'10" Kurt Angle shows that Hogan is nothing under 6'3"-6'3.5" today.
Enough with the stupid "Hogan is 6'2"" posts! Vegas says on 27/Jan/10
some of them are good and some of those are awful estimations, hogan can't be 6'2 range seeing as he had 5-6 inches on kurt angle last thursday night Click Here
roberts has never been 6'6, jbl either, austin at 6'2+ is lol, met the guy on numerous occasions, he is just over 6ft, big show has lost 2.5 inches at 37 wtf, nash taller than andre?? sid 4 inches shorter than nash?? MikeV10 says on 27/Jan/10
John Layfield 6'6.5"
Undertaker 6'7.0" today
Click Here
i don`t Think so Clay says on 26/Jan/10
Hahaha so the Big Show of the 90's is an inch taller than the Khali of today?
Riiiiight. Anonymous says on 25/Jan/10
Hulk Hogan 6'5" peak....6'2.5" today
Jake Roberts 6'6.25" peak.... 6'4" today
Stone Cold 6'2.25"
John Layfield 6'6.5"
Undertaker 6'7.5" peak 6'7.0" today
Kane 6'8.5"
Shawn Michaels 6'0" peak 5'11" today
Blackjack Mulligan 6'6.5" peak 6'6" today
Big Show 7'1" 6'10.5" today
Andre the Giant 6'10" peak
Kevin Nash 6'11
Sid 6'7 peak 6'6" today
Big John Studd 6'6" peak
Great Khali 7'0" today
Belated happy new year.... NCL says on 24/Jan/10
Frank says on 21/Jan/10
I dont remember Shawn being shorter than Bret Bret has been listen @ 5ft 11 to 6ft I know the WWF listen him @ 6ft 1 but he probably 5ft 11
Also Shawn Michaels has been looking a bit crossed eyed lately ??
I been noticing that too ... I guess the poor guy was hit in the head with a chair too many times. says on 23/Jan/10
man Bret and Shawn are and have always been the same height. Frank says on 21/Jan/10
I dont remember Shawn being shorter than Bret Bret has been listen @ 5ft 11 to 6ft I know the WWF listen him @ 6ft 1 but he probably 5ft 11
Also Shawn Michaels has been looking a bit crossed eyed lately ?? The Ben says on 10/Jan/10
Ennis512 says on 10/Jan/10
Hulk Hogan 6'6" peak....6'3.5" today
Jake Roberts 6'5.25" peak.... 6'4.75" today
Stone Cold 6'1.25"
John Layfield 6'6"
Undertaker 6'8" peak 6'7.5" today
Kane 6'8"
Shawn Michaels 6'0" peak 5'11.5" today
Blackjack Mulligan 6'6.5" peak 6'5.5" today
Shad Gaspard 6'6"
R.A.Ennis (myself) 6'7"
If shawn michaels is 5'11.5 then bret hart is nearly 6'1.. Ennis512 says on 10/Jan/10
Hulk Hogan 6'6" peak....6'3.5" today
Jake Roberts 6'5.25" peak.... 6'4.75" today
Stone Cold 6'1.25"
John Layfield 6'6"
Undertaker 6'8" peak 6'7.5" today
Kane 6'8"
Shawn Michaels 6'0" peak 5'11.5" today
Blackjack Mulligan 6'6.5" peak 6'5.5" today
Shad Gaspard 6'6"
R.A.Ennis (myself) 6'7" Ray says on 5/Jan/10
Big Show 7'0.5" - 7'1" peak; 6'11.5"-7' today
Andre the Giant 6'11" peak; I don't think the giant quite ever reached the 7' mark
Kevin Nash 6'10 (maybe just scraped it)
Undertaker 6'8" seems right; today 6'7" and change if he lost anything at all
Sid 6'7 peak
Big John Studd 6'7" peak
Hulk Hogan 6'6" peak; 6'3" and change today; maybe 6'4" if he can stand straight.
Great Khali 7'1" today Vegas says on 5/Jan/10
so LSU alum you think big show was 1.5 inches taller than shaq despite being shorter than shaq at 37 years old justin bailey says on 4/Jan/10
Im gonna have to say that I believe takers max barefoot heightt is 6'7.5''. I also believe that the harris twins stand a little taller than taker. when kane wore his frankenstein lifts he barely stood over those two skyscrapers for brothers. taker and kane are probably 6'7.5'' at most while the harris twins stand between 6'8'' and 6'9'' in close range with tyler mane and nash. LSU Alum says on 4/Jan/10
peak:Big Show 7'1"
Andre 7'0"
Nash 6'10"
Taker 6'8"
Studd 6'8.5" Anonymous says on 3/Jan/10
peak heights:
Big Show 7'0
Andre the Giant 6'11
Kevin Nash 6'9
Undertaker 6'7.5
Sid 6'7
Big John Studd 6'6.6
Hulk Hogan 6'5.5 Anonymous says on 31/Dec/09
Happy New Year and much blessings to you all! Frank says on 27/Dec/09
Shock I met Todd that day i met Taker and was was very short but when he's on the air with the WWF he wore Big Heels or lifts because he was no way as tall or taller than Paul Bearer Shock says on 26/Dec/09
Click Here I'm pretty sure Nash was 1.5" taller than Taker. Todd Pettengill looks rather insignificant in the back. Anonymous says on 26/Dec/09
Nash and Show some years ago: Click Here
'Taker and Show current: Click Here
No shots of footwear though. Robby says on 25/Dec/09
Backstage segment hyping up the six man tag team match with Owen Hart, Yokozuna and British Bulldog vs. Undertaker, Diesel and Shawn Michaels. shows Yokozuna and Owen next to each other. Diesel and HBK and Diesel and Undertaker Click Here Shock says on 24/Dec/09
Joe, that Army guy is clearly standing on something and is probably no more than 6', the dead giveaways are his head height and arm length.
Frank, I've said before that if Taker's head was not tilted down in the pic with you here, you'd be up to his labret. Taker's got a nearly 11" noggin, I'd say he's nearly if not 9" taller as of 1993, and as is he's just over 8" taller. People don't realize that the top of his head is at least halfway into the top part of his hat. Ghost says on 23/Dec/09
That army guy in the photo with Taker seems to be standing on something. Maybe he was recieving a medal or something or maybe he is standing on something as a joke to look the same height as Taker. That's a pretty common thing to do with tall people around.
He does not look like a 6'9 guy at all, compare their heads for example. Looks more like a 5'8 guy. Frank says on 17/Dec/09
Joe that day when i met him he looked huge the picture doesent do it justice
And i said to him Damm you are tall how tall are you he said 6ft 9 Joe says on 17/Dec/09
Frank, thanks for the comment. Yeah i thought u looked about 6'1 in that picture. If the person basing the "6'7.5" height didnt know u were on a slope and had a height advantage over Taker then it might seem like hes only 6'7. but im Sure hes a solid 6'8! he said it himself in "this is my yard" that is he 6'8/9 and i remember on smackdown years ago they made an error when doing the stats and it came up with Undertaker at 6'8. Hes certainly no shorter than that as hes within 3/4 inches of Big Show. I hope whoever makes the final decision that they look at the evidence and make Taker 6'8. Collin says on 11/Dec/09
I'd say that the Undertaker today is a solid 6'8", no question about it. He definitely is not any less than that. Frank says on 11/Dec/09
Joe your right that Picture with me and Taker is in 1993 but it does show how much taller he is than a 6ft guy and again i look taller because we were standing on an upward slope like in a Movie Theather and i was standing Slightly behind him Joe says on 11/Dec/09
Taker - 6'8"
Sid - 6'7"
Hogan - 6'4" The Seth says on 11/Dec/09
Seth Anderson's height is 5 ft 8.75 in ( 175 cm ) ....that's me.
looks like shock isn't the only one who does the .25 thing, I do it as well Red says on 7/Dec/09
Click Here
Taker 6´7.75"
Sid 6´7"
Hogan 6´5" Joe says on 5/Dec/09
i wouldn't take the word of Jesse Ventura to bo honest... and obviously we don't know if they are on the same ground level but if we could assertain who the army person is we could find out his height and it might make a good example because hes around the undertakers height and isn't a wrestler. So there shouldn't be any mystery surrounding his height.
In any case i still think we should find a better main picture for the site. Why we have the current one is beyond me..... its so old! JT says on 4/Dec/09
Vegas, I think Robinson entered the US Navy when he was around 6'6" and then grew another 6 or so inches during his Navy stint. Like Hogan, Ventura's usually full of B.S. but there is a general limitation on height in the US armed services. They'll still find you a spot if you're over 6'8" and really want to join. You just can't perform certain tasks, like operating a tank or flying a fighter plane. Vegas says on 4/Dec/09
Anonymous says on 3/Dec/09
You know Joe, in regards to your photo of the Undertaker with that Army guy: It's interesting because i was listening to an interview with Jesse Ventura, and he mentioned that the military won't accept you if you're more than 6'7.
well thats more ventura BS as here it clearly states
(a) 4) Add 6 pounds per inch for males over 80 inches Click Here
80 inches on its own equalling 6'8, of course 7ft david robinson was in the us navy Click Here Tim says on 4/Dec/09
Joe, on that photo it is still a question whether they are all standing on the same plain. hs2009 says on 4/Dec/09
Yeah, that guy in the army must be 6'9" or so. It would be great to find out for sure though. Joe says on 3/Dec/09
that maybe only applying to front line active army members. i think you can have a different profession in the army and still be let in. it would be silly to have a height restriction on, lets say... a cook!
but all of that aside, would be very interesting to find out who that is and how tall he is. Marotte says on 3/Dec/09
I think the guy is standing on something or taker is lifting, because he does not have the proportion of a man that tall. Anonymous says on 3/Dec/09
You know Joe, in regards to your photo of the Undertaker with that Army guy: It's interesting because i was listening to an interview with Jesse Ventura, and he mentioned that the military won't accept you if you're more than 6'7. Danimal says on 27/Nov/09
Shock,
Your .25" thing is very creepy. Joe says on 27/Nov/09
Someone should really update the main picture of this website. its probably 15 years old. Find a better picture! i have one in mind. but it would require finding out the identity and height of someone in the army. its from 2006.
Click Here
picture shows taker in normal clothes standing next to a tall military person probably atleast 6'8-9. Would be very cool to find out who that is and how tall he is. Shock says on 26/Nov/09
JT, Taker was more than 1" taller than Sid, not 0.5", at WM13 in the best staredown they've ever had where Sid is not tip toeing, he's about 1.25" taller in the staredown. You are simply "making up" the footwear scenario for Taker in 1999 as well with your "inner boost" theory (there's another shot in my pic post that shows the same boots), as the bottoms of his feet are clearly not where you illustrate.
I once said that at WM13 Sid's boots looked suspect to internal lifts, and they completely do, and others said "No no, you're wrong, you're just a fanboy, nothing odd there." BS. They are completely ignoring a blatant comparison of Sid's footshape in two different sets of boots and writing it off to phantom impossibility. He is wearing lifts at WM13 and there's no question, but nope, I'm wrong because Taker's not "allowed" to be 6'8", and has nothing to do with evidence. Strangely, many people think Sid is at least 6'7".
The only way Taker has an advantage on Show in street clothes is if Show's in total flats, which he might very well be, but that's still only 0.5" or so difference and doesn't cover the remaining gap.
Taker is 2.5" shorter when Show is slouching, 3.5" shorter when he's not, and for all of his career except since JeriShow, as he's seemed to have changed boots again recently, Show's had a footwear advantage so the real difference is about 3.25"
Click Here for various comparisons
Daniel, I don't know of anyone on here who believes Hogan was 6'3.5" peak and also thinks Undertaker was 6'8" peak. I believe PEAK Hogan was 6'6", and around 6'5.5" by the time he squared off with Taker, 2.75" was not and impossible difference, but sadly we never got any kind of real comparison with them until Hogan shrunk under 6'5".
6'3.5" peak Hogan would = 5'11" Vince McMahon peak, and we don't need to go any further with that, so whoever believes that is obviously delusional. Ray says on 26/Nov/09
Hogan was probably around 6'6" at peak. Also, the best and most recent staredown for Undertaker/Big Show is the triple threat tag team match from the recent RAW not from 1999 - 10 years ago, unless you are trying to compare their heights from then. But for today you have to look at recent stuff. Daniel_Sweden says on 26/Nov/09
somebody still claims hogans peak height was 6'3.5 and many believes the undertaker was at his peak 6'8 so my question is did the undertaker have 4 1/2 inches on hogan 1991? i can't see almost 5 inches different between them...i mean 4 1/2 inches is 11.5 cm...peak hogan 6'5.5 JT says on 26/Nov/09
The only way Taker gets within 3 inches of Big Show is if the latter is slouching. When Big Show stands straight, the large height difference becomes apparent.
Click Here (Taker had a footwear advantage here)
Click Here
Click Here
Click Here (slight camera advantage for Big Show)
There’s no 0.9” footwear advantage for Big Show back in 1999. The “sole” on Taker’s boot may look small but the bottom of the feet are actually well above that level, indicating a large inner boost (it doesn't mean they are "lifts"). Click Here Plus, Big Show’s boot is closer to the camera.
Taker was not within 2 inches of Nash when you could see their full bodies in the ring, and Nash looked around 3 inches shorter than Big Show. If Taker edged out 6'7" tops Sid, it was by no more than 0.5 inches and that's only b/c of his odd-shaped head. Shock says on 25/Nov/09
Clay, I think 6'6.5" Undertaker = more like 6'11.25" Khali tops.
Click Here I get 4.5" - 4.75" there.
Interestingly enough, there would seem to be about 5.25" difference between their eyes if Taker wasn't looking up, so Khali's forehead, definitely smaller than Taker's even with a slightly larger head in general.
Khali: 7'1"
Big Show: 6'11.5"
Undertaker: 6'8.25"
or
Khali: 7'0.25"
Big Show: 6'10.75"
Undertaker: 6'7.5"
or
Khali: 6'11.25"
Big Show: 6'9.75"
Undertaker: 6'6.5"
My point is, you can't have it both ways, when you increase or decrease one, they all have to feel the effect. I don't understand how people are seeing more of a difference than their actually is when there are no actual examples of it. Shock says on 25/Nov/09
I have watched so many clips tonight, looked at a bunch of pictures new and old, and I can't find anything that suggests Taker is any more than 3.25" shorter than Big Show except in 1999 when Show has a footwear advantage (1.5" vs 0.6" boots). Even then, Taker is within Show's forehead range, which is illustrated in their 4-19-99 staredown.
Click Here and here Click Here about 4" taller with nearly 1" footwear advantage.
When you compensate the boot difference, it goes right back to the 3-3.5" difference. There they are, standing up as straight as can be, and even with a near 1" footwear advantage, Big Show's still not quite a full forehead taller. I don't think there's any question that the max true height difference is less than 3.5". It's always been and still is.
Click Here here is another staredown from 1999 with Big Show at similar posture as the recent staredown, magically coming out about 2.75" taller. He's not in wrestling boots, looking to be in comparable footwear to Taker's. In the first pic he only looks maybe 2" taller due to "whatever is making him look only 2" taller." It's amazing how much the gap closes anytime footwear is even and Show is not standing up totally straight, but to say there's 2" or more of lost height is ridiculous. It's probably not even 1". The evidence is right there in front of you guys.
If Big Show was 4" taller, Taker wouldn't even come up to his eyebrows in 1999 based on footwear, and he's over them. Clay says on 25/Nov/09
You're the only one claiming 6'6.5 Danimal. Alex concedes the height loss but says Taker is still likely 6'7'', which is still a little too low IMO. Clay says on 25/Nov/09
Calloway at 6'6.5 leaves Khali at 6'11.5 or 7'0. Anonymous says on 25/Nov/09
Danimal on The Undertaker
Taker - Peak 6'7.5" Today 6'6.5"
Big Show - Peak 7'0.5" Today 6'11"
that is low of you Danimal (pun intended). I'm sure Taker is 6'7.5 now" and was 6'8" peak. Joe says on 24/Nov/09
no way danimal. why on earth do you think that!
undertaker is no shorter than 6'7.75 today, but my bets are he is a SOLID 6'8. in his prime he was a near 6'9.
it's weird how there is so much debate. big show is deffinatly 7'0 and taker is no more than 4 inches shorter than him. hs2009 says on 24/Nov/09
There's 4" between Taker and Big Show today, the same difference as 10 years ago. So unless both men have lost the exact same amount of height in the past decade, which is highly improbable, I'm not buying height loss for either man. Just bad posture combined with different camera angles can make them look shorter, but when they stand straight you can see how tall both guys really are.
Plus, if Undertaker is 6'6.5" that makes JBl 6'3.5". This is total BS because we know JBL was the exact same height as legit 6'5" General Odierno. Big Show was also only 1"-1.5" shorter that 7'1" Shaq when they had comparable footwear on, so anything less than 6'11.5" for Show today isn't right either IMO. Shock says on 24/Nov/09
Big Show: 6'11.5"
Undertaker 6'8.25"
JT, even in the pic you posted, Big Show is still only coming out 3" taller ignoring any footwear difference. His head is leaning very far back making his forehead look smaller, only representing about 2/3 of what it is compared to his head. If what you see represents 4", then Big Show's head is 16" tall, and you cannot be serious if you think Taker is standing up straight in the chokeslam pic.
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Taker is within 1/4 of Big Show's forehead range, there's no way it's 4"
86 - 82.5 = 3.5" difference in bills, not 4+.
I love how some of you are pointing out that Big Show is leaning forward in the staredown, again just as I did, but somehow he is losing *2"* from this, but when Taker leans forward in various other staredowns, he's still considered at full height. Show's losing no more than 1".
Danimal, if Undertaker is 6'6.5" today, then Kane is under 6'6". Danimal says on 23/Nov/09
Taker - Peak 6'7.5" Today 6'6.5"
Big Show - Peak 7'0.5" Today 6'11" JT says on 23/Nov/09
WWE bills Big Show and Taker as only 1.5” apart now, so Big Show is not going to stand tall next to Taker in a staredown. Click Here
Taker’s about as tall as he’s going to be here, as he is standing straight and on one leg. Big Show looks close to 4 inches taller and could stand taller if he wanted. Both had comparable footwear too. In 1999, WWE often referred to Big Show as 7'2" so a 4+ inch height differential was acceptable. miko says on 22/Nov/09
3.5/4" between Show and Taker.
Undertaker is closer to the camera, Undertaker is standing straight, Big Show is looking down, look at his damn neck!
Remember that from the eyes up its over 5" on the Big Show's forehead. If Show straightens out there you see a bigger gap - simple. Shock says on 22/Nov/09
One more Taker and Show - Click Here - again I know Show is not quite at full posture here, but he's still only coming out about 2.5" taller.
So either Big Show is about 6'10.5" or Undertaker is just over 6'8". Shock says on 22/Nov/09
Big Slouch only coming out 2.5" taller than Taker Click Here
He's no more than 3.5" taller in respective boots. 4 to 5" is straight up impossible. Joe says on 21/Nov/09
Undertaker and big Show had a staredown on smackdown this week. Undertaker looked about 3-4 inches shorter. if big show is a solid 7'0 then taker would be about 6'8
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In 1999, Big Show had nearly a 1" boot advantage on Taker (1.5" vs .6") and then he did look about 4.5" taller. Today he has maybe .25" footwear advantage and Taker is within Big Show's forehead range. That's a bad comparison pic but he's about 3.5" shorter there as is with Big Show at bad posture but closer to the camera. Ray says on 21/Nov/09
Here's the Taker/Big Show staredown from Smackdown earlier tonight. Show looks to be closer to 3" taller though his posture could be a little better. Staredown starts at 5:10; I paused at 5:14 and it's a pretty good look.
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Shock, IIRC Rob may have said the average forehead height is around 4”, with 4.5” from the eyes up. At least that’s the general consensus on this site. The 4” forehead height may be a bit large though, especially since at what point do you start measuring it (some people have arched eye brows, some more straight across). On second thought, it’s probably more in the 3.75” range from the eye brows up for the average person.
This is Big Show next to Vegas’s 6’4” friend. It’s been a while, but IIRC Vegas said his friend’s head was at least 10.25" long (I seem to recall an even larger size). I’m the same height and my noggin’s ~10.25". This assumes his friend’s head is 10”, 10.25", and 10.5” long
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Because of the low camera angle and Big Show being taller than Vegas’s friend, the height of Big Show’s head is a bit longer than how it comes out here.
If Taker’s head is really 11 inches long, then Big Show’s is probably 12.5 to 13 inches long.
Regarding Andre, this is assuming John Studd had an 11 inch long head, which there’s no way that he did: Click Here The 13 inch mark is above the scalp. Andre's head was probably around 12 inches. While Andre’s head from the eyes down was enormous, it was average-sized Click Here Click Here (but very wide) from the eyes up. If he had a more proportioned head, it easily would have been closer to 13 inches.
I think we are getting way too detailed in this discussion:) Ray says on 20/Nov/09
I would say around 4" between Show and Taker (could be a little less but I don't think it's more than 4"). Looks like Taker comes up a little past Shows eyebrows. This makes sense since Taker is about 5" shorter than Khali. In my opinion of course. hs2009 says on 20/Nov/09
Yeah, Undertaker is and has always been 4" shorter than Big Show. So unless both men have lost the exact same amount of height at the same rate, then I'm not really believing that either has lost any height. Just posture issues, different boots, camera angles etc. can make them look shorter than they really are. JT says on 20/Nov/09
Click Here Looked like the same 4-5 inch difference as it was 10 years ago Click Here Shock says on 18/Nov/09
Taker was 5" taller than Trips on RAW even with Trips on a slightly higher plane from the straight on camera. He's probably about 5.5" taller, or half his head height.
I think regardless of Taker's hairline, his percentage of skull above his eyes is more than just about anyone.
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Vegas, I wonder if he's still nursing the knee injury, might not be able to do as much cardio which could also be why his matches have been shorter and less involved recently.
Clay, Triple H definitely does not have lifts, his boots are 1", I'm still undecided about Taker's, either 1 or 1.2", sometimes the length of his foot makes them look 1" currently.
Also there was one vague close quarters exchange with Taker and Show where Taker came out very well on him, hopefully we'll get a staredown at the PPV.
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JT, 5" Big Show forehead I think results in over 13" for his skull. I really don't know if he's more than 4.5". Andre definitely had a 12" head, since it was about 2" taller than Hogan's. Hogan's got a pretty large head and Andre dwarfed him. Clay says on 17/Nov/09
I actually thought HHH looked tall next to Taker. Hunter must wrestle in lifts I think. Ray says on 17/Nov/09
Yeah, The Undertaker certainly towered HHH last night on RAW. Taker also looked tall next to the Big Show. Pause here at 7:42
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You can also see the Undertaker/HHH staredown a few seconds before this. Ray says on 17/Nov/09
Yeah, Taker certainly towered HHH last night; he also looked very tall next to Big Show.
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You can also see the Taker/HHH staredown a few seconds before this. JT says on 17/Nov/09
Taker has a longish forehead but the nature of his receding hairline adds to the illusion. Early in his career, his mullet style hair, with the puffy top, made his head appear larger than it was as well. Albert has a bigger forehead than Taker, considering that he's looking up Click Here Big Show's noggin is fairly well proportioned (sep. compared to Khali), but with a 12+ inch long head, the forehead size is going to be at least 5 inches. Andre the Giant had probably at least a 12 inch long head as well, but most of the length came from the eyes down, like Khali. Vegas says on 17/Nov/09
taker looked 5 inches taller than HHH last night on raw, takers always had 5 inches on trips even as far back as 1999 so i am convinced now any height loss for the big guy is minimal
speaking of taker, met him again along with lots of other SD guys and gals over the weekend, looks to have put on weight Shock says on 16/Nov/09
I've always gotten Khali's head at about .5" shorter than Big Show's total, the way his chin is shaped makes it kinda hard to judge depending on the angle, can you make an example of where your divisions are? We might be basically talking about the same thing just different starting points. Proportionally, Show's forehead is normal, someone like Taker, has a gigantic forehead, Khali's kinda small all things considered. JT says on 14/Nov/09
Shock, I matched the heads up from the chin level. Their heads are of similar length from the eyes down (Big Show's looks slightly longer - maybe around 1/4") but from the eyes up, it's probably more than a 1 inch advantage for Big Show. Khali probably has close to 4.5" from his eye brows to the top of his head. That same distance for Big Show looks at least an inch longer. His forehead is gigantic. Shock says on 14/Nov/09
JT I'm getting about 4.25" - 4.5" from the eyebrows up for Big Show. What do you consider "forehead" because I always thought it was eyebrows up, Khali about a 4-4.25" forehead. It seems like you're starting at the eyes because the center of Big Show's head is the very middle of his nose. JT says on 12/Nov/09
Click Here Probably no less than a 5.5" forehead on a 12+ inch head. Shock says on 11/Nov/09
I'm 5'8", with a 9'5" head, about a 4.5" forehead, but my eyes are also virtually in the center of my skull. Big Show's head is about 12" tall, and his eyes are well into the upper half of his head, fairly symmetric division into 3rds, I would say 4.5" is pretty reasonable and I'm going to stick with that for now. I've seen some pics where he's got his head tilted foreward and it looks like more, and some tilted back where it makes his forehead look tiny. Shaun says on 11/Nov/09
Looks every inch of 6'8" to me. Scary mother ****** miko says on 8/Nov/09
Shock, how on earth can Big Show have a 4" forehead.
I have a 4.5" forehead an I'm a 6"0 non-acromegalic guy, 5"8 Rob the Editor's head is also around this range. Big Show's is at least 5.5" from his eyes up. Shock says on 7/Nov/09
Danimal Taker is within Big Show's forehead range with a slight footwear disadvantage, so Big Show is probably between 3 and 3.5" taller than him. Even in 1999 Taker was up to Big Show's eyebrows with nearly 1" disadvantage. Big Show's forehead is about 4"-4.5".
I think Akebono and Taker are virtually identical height, Taker might have a slight edge. The Albert Taker picture is highly suspect as Albert may have a nearly 1" footwear advantage, and I simply do not believe Albert is is anyway a dead even 6'6", it makes a difference. 6'6" Albert put Taker at 6'6.5" by comparison, a 1" advantage puts Taker at 6'7.5", and Albert is probably mroe than 6'6" even. Compared to so many other guys it's just not possible. He's closer to 6'7" than 6'6". Even with Akebono Albert has come out nearly his height with a 1" footwear advantage, same as Taker. If Albert is 6'6" even, Akebono is 6'7 or 7.5" Spence says on 5/Nov/09
My god he looks every bit of 6'8 in that photo with Frank...over a 182 guy looks to have 8 inches easily Vegas says on 5/Nov/09
akebono was listed at 204cm in sumo which is 6'8.3
this article is very specific about what height and weight he was at certain periods
Mar 1988 200cm and 334lb
Jan 1989 202cm and 340lb
Mar 1990 203cm and 386lb
Sep 1990 204cm and 411lb
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Danimal says on 4/Nov/09
Red, where are you getting this 1/4" and 1/3" from????
Just from the pixel´s.
I don´t think UT is as tall as Akebono, Akebono would edge Taker out!
Akebono is a strong 6´8"
Undertaker is a strong 6´7"
Bernard is 6´6" Rest is footwear advantage Danimal says on 4/Nov/09
Red, where are you getting this 1/4" and 1/3" from???? Clay says on 4/Nov/09
Danimal and Alex have no explanation as to why Taker is so tall next to Khali, other than Taker must have been in 2.5 inch lifts?
Taker is still 6'7.75-6'8 down from a peak of 6'8.5ish. PERIOD. tuga says on 4/Nov/09
Red says on 4/Nov/09
tuga, in that vid Akebono has a much wider stand than Bernard.
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Taker has also a wider stance than albert and look at albert´s feet...he´s on his tip toes for sure, look at your photo, albert is more relaxed...
All of this evidence posted here all just show similar heights between taker and akebono: 6'8. Red says on 4/Nov/09
tuga, in that vid Akebono has a much wider stand than Bernard.
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Vegas says on 3/Nov/09
anyone come up with a good explanation as to why taker was slightly taller next to khali than kane??
Easy one, for the same reason he and jbl looked close in height until taker stood tall next to him exposing the real diference...answer: POSTURE
JT says on 4/Nov/09
Taker in Lugz-style boots was basically the same height as Albert/Matt Bloom, when Albert in those same type boots was noticeably shorter than 6'8" Akebono in boots with paper-thin soles....
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Take a look or pause anywhere from 3:32 to 3:37, how do explain that? Is Akebono even any taller than albert?? Please do take some screen caps and draw the lines. JT says on 4/Nov/09
Vegas says on 3/Nov/09
anyone come up with a good explanation as to why taker was slightly taller next to khali than kane??
...and Kane was not wearing small-heeled boots with Khali, and why Taker in Lugz-style boots was basically the same height as Albert/Matt Bloom, when Albert in those same type boots was noticeably shorter than 6'8" Akebono in boots with paper-thin soles.... Vegas says on 3/Nov/09
anyone come up with a good explanation as to why taker was slightly taller next to khali than kane?? hs2009 says on 3/Nov/09
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