How tall is Boris Kodjoe

Boris Kodjoe's Height

6ft 4 (193 cm)

Austrian born Model and Actor known for roles in Resident Evil:Afterlife, Soul Food, The Gospel, Starship Troopers 3, Addicted and Love & Basketball. On his official website bio page it used to list his height as 6ft 3, his German acting agency 190cm and Ford Models gave him 6ft 2, but in a 2012 comic con interview on upcoming-movies he mentioned his tall stature and weight: "I'm 6'4", 220", which he also said on twitter in 2009:
The Paparazzi just got a shot of me coming out of my trailer in my robe and ski hat looking like a 6'4, 220 pound Hugh Hefner.

How tall is Boris Kodjoe
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Average Guess (48 Votes)
6ft 3.36in (191.4cm)
Andrea said on 18/Feb/19
LOL, I know, Tunman. To be honest, I hadn't even seen that much of him before, but certainly enough to conclude that he had to be at least 6'4, give or take a fraction. And just about every other picture I found/find is just a further confirmation of that. Speaking of Haysbert, there was another pic of them together I posted, whose link seems to no longer work in the list below: Click Here . In that pic it is even harder to believe that Dennis is anywhere near 6'4, if Boris is only 6'4 himself, yeah.
And as I said, although they weren't officially measured, you can see Boris with guys like Kim Coates, Wentworth Miller, Rick Fox and Casper Van Dien in fact, whom Rob all met (so I doubt they're going to be overlisted by more than a fraction). Especially with Kim Coates Click Here , not only Boris looks at least 6'4 with him, but if Boris is only 6'4 flat, I still have a hard time believing Kim is a full 6', to be honest. Yet Rob met him and said that he isn't far off that mark...
And you're perfectly right about Google. Unless a figure comes from a celebrity's mouth or agency, I don't even take into consideration those kind of listings, as most of the time they're just random guesses/figures which get copied from site to site, without any kind of logic behind it. Speaking of Google, I've seen some awful listings throughout the years, even amongst Italian celebrities. Not only celebrities listed way taller than they are, but even celebrities listed way shorter than they are, even when the celebrities themselves claim to be a totally different mark!
Canson said on 18/Feb/19
@Christian: I think you and Andrea both made cases here to be fair. But I agree that proof is a very subjective word and I’ve seen on other pages where debates have been as heated as it got here with all of us that pics are said to be proof when in reality I’m sure very few of the pics here on this site are what we call perfection
Canson said on 17/Feb/19
@Tunman: I’ve seen 6’2 6’2.5 6’3 and the 192cm listing along with 6’4”. The 6’4” didn’t come about until he claimed it however
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Feb/19
@Tunman
Those 26 pics that Andrea provided isn't "proof" that Boris is 6'4". I've provided around just as many photos of him looking way under 6'4", but that isn't "proof" either. Wish people would quit throwing around terms like "proof" when there are no recorded measurements of a celeb or haven't even met them in person.
Tunman said on 16/Feb/19
@Andrea
Yeah,I just noticed you posted the pic.Lol,there was no need to show 26 pics to prove he's a honest enough 6'4.With someone like Heysbert he could even look 6'4.5" which means Dennis is likely under his current listing.The same goes with Rick Fox where as you said he could look no more than 1.5"smaller but again 6'6 for Fox is very questionable.It would be interesting to have at least one celebrity being officially measured every time we make a comparison it would be very helpful.Kobe's measurement is at least one you can't argue he's under(actually he even looks over it almost all the time but then why did he insist he's not 6'5?)He's among the few celebs with whom Boris looked more 192.Funnily Google has Boris at 192 but don't think it's the reason why I'm trying to argue over the mark.A source giving Bieber 175 is hardly serious...
Canson said on 16/Feb/19
One thing I will say is that even if I don’t necessarily agree on his listing here, this listing is a lot better than Merriman’s who in that video when he’s shoeless, looks no taller than 6’2” range
Andrea said on 15/Feb/19
Tunman, I myself did post that pic with Boateng, if you take a look at my older comments... If Boateng is 190, I can see Boris anywhere between 192 and 193 there, no less no more. As for Casper, the absolute minimum I can see between them is 6.5 inches, but to be honest, I would have said it overall looked very close to 7 inches in the clip.
That being said, as I've always said, 192 isn't impossible (or absurd), but anything under that certainly is. In fact, even at 192, if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity that appeared with him should be downgraded by a visible amount (and some already should be, if he's only 6'4 flat). And again, I still have a hard time believing that the majority of celebrities listed at 6'4 or even over on here would be as tall as him. Let alone taller!
Canson said on 24/Jan/19
@Rising: yea it’s tough to say for him. Maybe he’s a bit less if that’s his combine measurement but not sure how much less. maybe it wasn’t early morning and was late morning instead. At that case he may be 6’0.25 or worst case 6’ 1/8
Rising - 174 cm said on 17/Jan/19
Yeah, Boris looks about 2 cm taller than Boateng, though I don't know how tall he actually is since he also has 191, 192 and 193 cm listings. 6'3.5" isn't unreasonable, but it's the absolute lowest I'd go. He definitely looked more than just 6" taller than Casper Van Dien, imo. @Canson: I agree Lewis seems about 6'0 3/8" legit.
Canson said on 16/Jan/19
@Viper: I could buy that perhaps. Odd that he was listed 6’2.5 before tho. But I’d be more likely to cap my max at 191 6’3.25 based on the overall perception from the pics
viper said on 14/Jan/19
6-3.5 is the absolute most I could buy for Boris
184guy2 said on 14/Jan/19
@Tunman
Good find . Boateng is generally listed 6'4 but he is nearer 6'3 . Probably 6'3 on the dot , like Matt Hummels , shorter than Neuer

Boris looks at least 2cm taller in there . Can't see Boris under 6'3.75
Tunman said on 8/Jan/19
Take a look at this,I think 192 can't be completely ruled out.
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Boateng is listed at 190 which is probably more likely than 192.
Now have a look at him with BorisClick Here:
Maybe 3/4"difference but no more.
I feel that Rob sometimes gives the benefit of doubt to some actors that's why a near enough 6'4 could look even over the mark.One thing is sure though,6'3 flat is definitely ruled out
@Andrea
I watched the scene with Casper once again.While at one point he could have pushed even near 194 I still feel 192,5 isn't completely absurd for Boris if you stop at 27sec
Canson said on 15/Dec/18
@Rising: I was actually speaking to you not Viper. My bad
Canson said on 14/Dec/18
@Viper: after more comparisons that seems right for Ray’s measurement. I just don’t know if it’s as early as the players these days so maybe he’s around that or worst case 6’.25
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Dec/18
@Canson: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember him claiming that as well.
Canson said on 4/Dec/18
@Rising: I remember maybe 20-25 years ago he had a special on that show Ahmad Rashad used to do where he said that he was always listed 6’5 but that he was really 6’2”. Then I saw another article about him where he admitted it in his “My Life”
Rising - 174 cm said on 3/Dec/18
@Canson: Yeah, I met Starks at an event a few years after his playing career and he didn't stand out the way even an average height NBA player does so I also figured he was about 6'2". The 6'5" listings were among the most ridiculous NBA listings and even the other 6'3" listings you see were probably around his height in shoes. As for Lewis, he looks taller than just 6'0" to me. He didn't seem like he'd be any shorter than Trump and I don't see Trump shorter than 6'0.5" today, though 6'0 3/8" would be the same thing.
Canson said on 27/Nov/18
@Rising: I could be wrong about the footwear. At one point Melo’s shoes looked huge. Maybe the heal is similar between them
Canson said on 27/Nov/18
@Rising: Ray next to Flacco he looks 6’0” at times assuming Joe is a full 6’6”. Considering where he measured I would say he’s close to it worst case 6’5 7/8 maybe. He can look a bit over too sometimes.
Canson said on 27/Nov/18
@Rising: appears the first link didn’t work properly. In the 2nd link I see over 1” but the third link he looks as if he’s at a footwear disadvantage with Melo. Melo appears to be in a thicker shoe now that I look closely. The last pic he looks 6’4 range but never a flat 6’4”. The lowest I could possibly call him is 6’4.5 but honestly could he just 3cm with he and Melo so maybe 6’4.5 up to a full 6’5 as he can look a full 6’5 at times. With Starks he can look around 6’5 or 6’4.75. Not sure if Starks is a full 6’2? Did you meet him? A buddy of mine did and said he was and he looked around that in their pic. Maybe lost height today. Btw how tall would you say Rolando Blackman was? Didn’t minke if you saw him or knew anyone who had when he played in NY. I have him as a strong 6’5 perhaps 6’5.25ish
Rising - 174 cm said on 27/Nov/18
@Andrea: I agree assuming Ray is taller than just 6'0" flat, Boris can still look around 6'4" there, but there's more guessing involved due to the hat. I agree Boris could be dropping some height with the much shorter Usher, I'm just commenting on how he looks in that photo. I did mean to mention the grass with Bishop. Mutombo is kind of tricky because of head size. I can't disagree with much you said, though. There are other group photos with Levy as you mention where Boris looks much taller.

@Canson: Good photos with Melo and Houston. Houston actually looks a full 6'5" in the first 2, but more 6'4" range in the last 2.
Andrea said on 26/Nov/18
To be honest, Rising, if Ray is about 6'0.5, Boris doesn't look less than 6'4 with him there, considering that Ray's top of head isn't much above Boris' eyebrows (and that there's even some tilt in Ray's favor). With Usher I agree that he looks nowhere near 6'4 in that pic, but 1) I'm not sure Boris is standing as tall as he can there and 2) there was another pic of them together (which I can't find atm) from the same event where Boris looked noticeably taller than that, and easily near 6'4. Plus, Usher does have some decent footwear advantage over Boris in those pics: Click Here . With Bishop he certainly doesn't look much over 6'3 there, but again, it's an outside photo ON THE GRASS, which means that there's always a chance the ground is uneven, so it's hardly a conclusive photo. With Levy there he doesn't look over 6'2-6'3, but that is certainly not surprising as Boris is standing clearly further away from the camera. There are many other photos where Boris easily looks 6'4, if Levy is 5'11.25. As for Ken Jeong and Kevin Hart, I always find it hard to draw any conclusions from comparisons between people that are so far apart height-wise, also because, as you said, it's totally understandable that the taller guy doesn't stand at his fullest next to the shorter one (unless we're talking about certain celebrities such as Vin Diesel, who would probably have an impeccable posture even next to someone like Peter Dinklage). With Mutombo, if anything, I'd say that he can even look over 6'4 there, given that the difference between them doesn't look over 8-9 inches in that photo. As for Houston, it's pretty much impossible to tell the actual difference between him and Boris from that pic as not only it's shot from a quite low angle, but it also seems to favor Houston's side and position quite a bit.
Canson said on 26/Nov/18
@Tall Sam: he could actually be similar with Conan. I have Conan as a strong 6’3” more than weak 6’4 (6’3.25 ish)
Canson said on 25/Nov/18
@Rising: if Ray measured 6’0 3/8 then he may he as low as 6’0” at an afternoon height.
Canson said on 25/Nov/18
@Rising: meant to say much more than 6’5
Andrea said on 24/Nov/18
And there you go again, Christian, accusing me of making "excuses", just because you don't understand what I'm talking about, and you obviously aren't even able to distinguish good photos from bad photos. And you wonder and cry about why I say that you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc. (other than height differences of course)? Hell, every further comment of yours does nothing but confirm that.
Canson said on 24/Nov/18
@Rising: I think he’d edge Sprewell too. I would put Sprewell lower than I am and Houston taller. I will say that Carmelo has a chance at 6’6.25 just as he does 6’6” flat or somewhere in the middle. He definitely doesn’t look less than 6’6” imho. But with Melo, Houston doesn’t look less more than 6’5” imho. I could actually see him as 6’4.75 at a low to be honest. I saw a couple references to that measurement but nothing concrete I don’t believe

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Rising - 174 cm said on 23/Nov/18
I met Allan Houston around 2000. I can't say exactly from my height and a memory years ago and what I do remember is his height stands out noticeably more in person than a 6'4" man. I'd think more 6'5"+, but all I can say with certainty is he's taller in person than Sprewell and a lot taller than John Starks. I didn't remember Houston having a pre-draft measurement or at least not one reported.
Rising - 174 cm said on 23/Nov/18
I've commented on Isner, Dirk, Foxx, Akon and Roddick so I'll focus on the others. I thought Ray Lewis was 6'0 5/8"? Typically, .4 compared to say .75 as 3/4" would be more like 3/8", but some of those NFL draft sites are confusing in that they usually seem to go in 1/8" increments and then shorten it. Either way, I'm not sure if Boris is a full 6'4" with him, but I'm not sure he looks far from it either. Tough to say exactly because Boris is wearing a hat, but Ray is just above Boris' eyebrows so I think Boris still looks at least 192 range there. I agree Usher reaches noticeably higher on Boris than 5'8" usually would on 6'4". Bishop is tough to say because they both have hats. I'd agree there's not a 2" difference in that particular picture, but definitely not less than 1", imo. I also agree Boris looks well under 6'4" compared to Levy. As for Ken Jeong and Kevin Hart, I'm not sure I'd expect Boris to stand his full height with guys that short in the full place, but fwiw, Jeong is just over a head shorter so you could argue Boris looks more a solid 6'3" than 6'4" with him, but I'm not sure Boris looks under 6'4" in the full pic with Kevin Hart: Click Here and for Mutombo, if Mutombo is standing his measured 7'1.25" then Boris looks right around 6'4" to me since he reaches his lower lip: Click Here If Mutombo is dropping more height then I'd agree Boris measures up less than 6'4", but even then, he's measuring up better to Mutombo than Dwayne Wade did to Shaq, fwiw: Click Here I'm not sure whether Wade's 6'3.75" measurement is accurate or not, but even if we say he's 6'3" flat, he's just about a full head shorter than 7'0" range Shaq, so with Mutombo near an inch taller, Boris doesn't necessarily measure up worse to him than you'd expect.
Canson said on 23/Nov/18
@Viper: I was shocked to see how low he measured at the combine. Christian posted it and it’s 6’0 3/8 meaning he may just effectively be 6’0” tall af a low. I always viewed him as being closer to 6’1”
Tall Sam said on 22/Nov/18
On evidence, I'd say he generally looks a weak-ish 6'4" range, close to Conan O'Brien, but maybe has a chance of looking a little a more solid 6'4".
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 21/Nov/18
@Andrea

Once again, because those pics don't fit your narrative, you undermine, dismiss and make excuses for them. The pics that you provided where Boris looks 6'4" aren't any better than mine quality-wise.
Canson said on 21/Nov/18
@Andrea: go look at your posts to both me and Christian just in the last 3-4 weeks on Rob’s page. You mentioned two things that you’ve obviously neglected here (in your typical hypocritical fashion). You mentioned to him that he shouldn’t be mentioning whether or not your estimates are good etc or whether you can estimate. you’re now critiquing his just because they don’t align with yours? And you also posted about respecting other people’s opinions which you’re clearly not doing here? There’s nothing wrong with the pics Christian posted if you say and believe that your pictures are “good”. They’re no worse than what you posted. Only “defect” is that he proves his point that Boris “can look under 6’4” which you don’t want to believe. He didn’t say that he’s under 6’4” however.
viper said on 20/Nov/18
Whoa, Ray Lewis has some really long arms.
Canson said on 20/Nov/18
@184guy: I would say 3.5 once footwear is accounted for. Barkley doesn’t look as tall as Rob lists him here and he measured 6’4 5/8 back in 1992. He actually looks right around 6’4.5 most of the time but that puts Boris more 6’3” range than 6’4” which is how Boris looked with Kobe in my opinion. I look at the pics Christian posted and that’s also how he looks to me
Canson said on 19/Nov/18
@Christian: Houston was measured at 6’4.75 (not sure what time of the day). But he’s got Boris by more than an inch

By the way they are decent quality pics as well
Andrea said on 19/Nov/18
Aside from the fact that in some of them he actually still looks 6'4, Christian, the majority of pics you posted where he looks "clearly under 6'4"" are (not surprisingly) pics where Boris is clearly disadvantaged and/or very questionable and inconclusive pics (like those rough comparisons you made with that random guy, which totally depend on how good that single pic is). Not to mention those based on your very personal and questionable estimates, like Barkley's and Merriman's (which you funnily call "measurements", even if they aren't, at least not officially), or on random Internet listings, like Utendahl's (who even a blind man would realize that is well over 6'3, given that he seems comfortably taller than a 6'5 MEASURED guy like Cam Newton Click Here Click Here ). So, not only your post is pointless, but it does nothing but confirm what I've always said about you...
184guy2 said on 19/Nov/18
@Canson
I don't think that Barkley looked that much taller than Boris
Looks to me a max 3cm difference
I can easily see their respectives listings
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
@Andrea: to be fair and not trying to start an argument, the perceptions of Viper vary from one person to the next. Some may feel that way as you do and a few others have made the comments about him before on other pages. Then you have some who respect him or respect his estimates like Rising for example and Danimal and even a couple others over the years (looking at older comments). This is taking Christian and me out of the picture as we have not been around as long as you all have. Either way, someone else could say the same about you or Rising or Rob for that matter but that doesn’t mean it’s true nor does it mean that everyone feels the same. But making the distinction about removing “according to Andrea” makes it sound as if you are saying that that is universally a fact about Viper when it’s not. That would mean for one that he’s never guessed a celeb accurately and it would mean that it’s a fact when it’s far from that. He’s had some good guesses here before as well for one and two nobody guesses a celeb perfectly each time nor does everyone agree on everyone’s estimates. That’s what you even said on rob’s page when you mentioned a post about respecting people’s opinions.
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
@Andrea: to be fair and not trying to start an argument, the perceptions of Viper vary from one person to the next. Some may feel that way as you do and a few others have made the comments about him before on other pages. Then you have some who respect him or respect his estimates like Rising for example and Danimal and even a couple others over the years (looking at older comments). This is taking Christian and me out of the picture as we have not been around as long as you all have. Either way, someone else could say the same about you or Rising or Rob for that matter but that doesn’t mean it’s true nor does it mean that everyone feels the same.
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
@Christian and Rising: here is what I see below:

Barkley does in fact appear to have a thicker shoe so we can knock off maybe 1/4”-1/2” tops.

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Barkley has about 1.75” (4-5cm) on Boris before the footwear advantage. Once we knock that off it’s down to around 1.5”. Maybe 3.5cm difference.

Now you know my stance that Barkley is not as tall (nor has he ever been as tall) as Rob lists him here at his low. He measured 6’4 5/8 in 92 and with Magic Terry Porter and Dan Majerle today he looks no more than 194cm (if that). To Rob’s credit a peak Barkley may be better listed than today’s basketball players who are mostly half inch below their listed barefoot heights. Barkley may be more like 1/4-3/8” maybe just 1/4” above his low here. If he measured in today’s NBA he would likely be 6’5 at that time of the morning (if not listed at 6’5.25 in his file just because the other players who measure a mm or a few mm over 6’5 would likely get the same). Even if we gave Barkley 194.5 today Boris comes out to 191. This is similar to what I was saying about the difference he had with Kobe where taking it into account Boris looked anywhere around 190 and change maybe weak 191. My guess now is that Boris does not look under 6’3” based on that but he’s likely not much over either. Maybe 6’3.25 tops but could really just be similar in height with a peak Larry Holmes (6’3-6’3 1/8). I won’t rule out 6’3.25 but he definitely does not look 192 cm imho. This is of course assuming Barkley is still that tall and not a bit less. I say that because you’ve seen a lot of people who’ve met Barkley say he’s 6’4” now a days including Sarah Spain who’s spent considerable time around him. I wouldn’t go as low as 6’4 but he could be around my height at 6’4.25 as I know someone who’s met him that said he’s around my height give or take

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I also estimate Magic to be only a flat 6’7” today at best. Maybe peak he was 201 but never looked any taller than that. Kurt Rambis edged him out when they played together and next to KAJ who is not as tall as he was peak, he still looks max 6’7. Terry Porter has always looked around 6’2” to me. That’s maybe giving him a fraction possibly if you see him with Mo williams who is about 6’0”. 6’1.5 isn’t out of the question nor is 6’1.75

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Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 18/Nov/18
There are PLENTY of pics where Boris looks clearly under 6'4".

Next to 5'11.25" listed William Levy Click Here

Next to 6'2" listed Andy Roddick Click Here

Next to 5'10" listed Akon Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here

Next to 5'2" listed Kevin Hart Click Here Click Here Click Here

Next to 6'0 3/8" measured Click Here Ray Lewis Click Here

Next to 5'4" listed Ken Jeong Click Here

Next to 5'9.5" listed Jason Geroge Click Here Click Here

Next to 7'1" Dikembe Mutumbo Click Here

Next to 5'7" listed Lena Waithe Click Here

Next to 6'2" listed Stephen Bishop Click Here

Next to 5'11" listed Adam Rodriguez Click Here

Next to 6'3" listed Lou Ferrigno Click Here

Next to 6'2.25" measured Click Here Channing Crowder Click Here

Next to 6'6" NBA listed (likely 6'4"-6'5" range) Allan Houston Click Here

Next to 6'3" listed John Utendahl Click Here

Next to 5'8" listed Usher Click Here

Next to 5'9" listed Jamie Foxx Click Here

Next to 6'11" listed Click Here Dirk Nowitzki Click Here

Next to 6'9.75" listed John Isner Click Here Click Here Click Here

Next to 6'0" listed Terrence Howard Click Here

Next to 6'4.75" measured Kobe Bryant Click Here Click Here

Next to 6'4 5/8" measured Charles Barkley Click Here Click Here Click Here

Next to 6'7" Magic Johnson Click Here

Next to 6'3.5" listed The Game Click Here

Next to 6'2.5" listed Idris Elba Click Here

Next to 6'2 3/8" measured Click Here and 6'2" listed Click Here Click Here Shawne Merriman Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 18/Nov/18
@Rising: Davis in person can give off a 6’3 impression. Admittedly I have usually gauged myself 6’4.5 when I’ve compared myself to people as opposed to 6’4.25 (I didn’t realize I was that low until after I had been posting here) so based on that maybe he falls a bit under 6’3 since he did measure 6’3.25 in the morning. He could be somewhere around Viper’s height to tell the truth (6’2.75) as a worst case scenario. However, I’d be willing to say 6’2 7/8 as he looked the same as my 6’3 friend who also drops to 190.3cm at his low. It’s possible there may have been a bit of variance in our shoes and I didn’t notice it.
Andrea said on 16/Nov/18
Just the fact that you call them "excuses" goes to show that you don't even know what camera angles are, Christian, otherwise you wouldn't call them that way, considering that, as I said, the only times I say pics have bad camera angles is when they really do.
As for the wearing lifts and tiptoeing thing, I clearly did explain the "larger conversation" right when I introduced those arguments, but of course all you understood was me saying Jamie Foxx is in lifts and Akon is tiptoeing, proving once again how limited your brain is, and how impossible it is to have a serious discussion with a close-minded person like you.
Andrea said on 16/Nov/18
You can easily remove the "according to Andrea" part, viper. 😊
Rising - 174 cm said on 16/Nov/18
@Canson: I agree on posture as Chi does look like one of those big, heavy guys who may not stand as tall as he can while Boris seems to have pretty good posture for a man his height. I disagree about Boris never giving that big 6'4" impression, though with that Casper video as one example and how well he measures up to Rick Fox on video as another. Generally, I'd expect a 6'3" guy to look less towering with a strong 5'9" guy and shorter with a 6'5.5" or weak 6'6". I won't say he's never given a 6'3" impression either.

@Christian: I think the conversation Andrea was referring to at least as far as Foxx was Jamie pulling off 5'10" at times in recent years such as with Channing Tatum, Gerard Butler, Andy Garcia and a few others. I know I've wondered if Foxx started wearing lifts the last 5 or 10 years based on that before I was even aware of the debate with Boris. I have no idea if Akon has a history of tip-toeing or if people have suspected that before. The height difference can vary with Boris, though. Click Here Click Here Click Here He's at the top or just above his eyes in the first, at the bottom or just below his eyes in the second and clearly below his eyes in the 3rd. In general, Boris is looking more 6'3" range overall with Akon, but fwiw, Boris looks taller with Akon than Vernon Davis did: Click Here Granted, if the difference with Akon is bigger than it looks, I'd probably guess it was due to Boris dropping some height with his stance rather than Akon tip-toeing, but I don't know any of their footwear. But I'd need to hear Andrea's explanation on the Akon thing.
Canson said on 15/Nov/18
@Viper: can’t argue with your estimate for Merriman at least after that video. Best case is he is maybe a hair over 6’2” if, like Christian also said, we are generous about the difference between he and Bennett. Meaning if we went with 3.5 over 4”. 6’2 includes 6’2.25
Canson said on 15/Nov/18
@Rising: I agree that it’s hard to tell a lot but one thing I did notice is Chi has horrendous posture while Boris has very good posture like he does in other videos and pics I’ve seen. I’ve noticed with some heavier guys that they may be losing height and he doesn’t have the same proportions. I could believe that Chi could’ve been 6’5 out of bed and 6’4 at a low. A guy his size could lose a lot more with his weight
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 15/Nov/18
@Andrea

Of course I know what camera angles are, and how they affect how tall someone can look in a pic. And I'm sure you do as well. But unlike me, you often conveniently use it as an excuse for pics where Boris looks under 6'4". Me on the other hand, I don't use the camera angle excuse for pics where Boris looks 6'4", and I sure as heck don't accuse Boris of wearing lifts or tiptoeing. Speaking of the lifts and tiptoeing excuses you make, you claim that they're part of a "larger conversation", but you can't seem to even identify what that "larger conversation" is. So as far as I'm concerned, you're just making up more excuses to cover up those excuses.
Rising - 174 cm said on 14/Nov/18
@Andrea: In the wide shot, I could see Marlon 6'0.25" compared to a 6'4" Boris, but more 6'0"-6'0.25" range in the other shot in front of the door. This is without considering if there's a difference between Boris' dress shoes and Marlon's sneakers. But he's struggling with 6'0" compared to a 6'4" Boris in the other scene( looks like in a restaurant/bar?). Chi does look tall there with John so it's possible I was thinking of him as shorter because of his posture and build and the director naturally didn't want him to tower Bruce Willis so much. But now that I think of it, he could look very big on the show, both Chi and Boris look at least 6'4" on stage since Rob literally just upgraded Brooks to 6'2.25" rather than 6'2" flat and he's looking noticeably shorter than either.

@Canson: They're still too close to call for me in those 2 or 3 seconds they're face to face. One second Chi is taller, but another Boris is and then they can be identical. Some is posture and camera distance, but I'd be able to say better if I knew who had a longer head naturally.
viper said on 14/Nov/18
"Viper was onto something when he guessed him 6’1.5-6’2."

But I'm a terrible judge of height according to Andrea. Maybe the worst ever lol
Canson said on 14/Nov/18
@Viper: I’ve never gotten the impression of Boris that I do of someone such as a peak David Hasselhoff, Liam Neeson or a Padalecki.
Canson said on 14/Nov/18
@Viper: I’ve had Merriman shorter than Boris for a while. The video was by far the best determinant of how tall Merriman actually is as both he and Bennett are barefoot, standing next to each other for a period of time.

@Christian: I’ve seen a couple where he’s been listed at 6’2.5. While Boris’s height is still debatable, Seeing as how Merriman likely is around 6’2 from the video, a solid 6’3” is very much believable (based on how both stacked up next to Barkley). I wouldn’t completely close the door on 6’2.75 either. Viper was onto something when he guessed him 6’1.5-6’2. Bennett at a weak 6’6” could even put Merriman right around 6’1.75 but I’ll call it 6’2” for now
Canson said on 14/Nov/18
@Viper: I’ve had Merriman shorter than Boris for a while. The video was by far the best determinant of how tall Merriman actually is as both he and Bennett are barefoot, standing next to each other for a period of time.

@Christian: I’ve seen a couple where he’s been listed at 6’2.5. While Boris’s height is still debatable, Seeing as how Merriman likely is around 6’2 from the video, a solid 6’3” is very much believable (based on how both stacked up next to Barkley). I wouldn’t completely close the door on 6’2.75 either. Viper was right when he said 6’1.5-6’2. Bennett at a weak 6’6” could even put Merriman right around 6’1.75 but I’ll call it 6’2” for now
Canson said on 14/Nov/18
@Viper: I’ve had Merriman shorter than Boris for a while. The video was by far the best determinant of how tall Merriman actually is as both he and Bennett are barefoot, standing next to each other for a period of time.
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Rising: I didn’t say that properly. Meant to say “how much taller”. I can say without hesitation that Chi is the taller of the two but how much is the question
Andrea said on 13/Nov/18
Me "accusing" Jamie Foxx of wearing lifts or Akon of tiptoeing weren't excuses, but part of a larger conversation, which you obviously (and not surprisingly) can't get, Christian. As for the camera angles, the only times I say pics have bad camera angles is when they really do, although I do realize that they sound like excuses to you, given that you probably don't even know what a camera angle is, like you have proven more than once.
Andrea said on 13/Nov/18
I agree, Rising. As for Marlon, not only Boris looks at least 6'4 with him, but if Boris is only 6'4 flat, it's also hard to believe Marlon is much over 6' (let alone his 6'0.5 listing, or his ridiculous 6'2 claim), I'd say. I don't know about Avery, but considering he was 55-56 at the time of that clip, I doubt he had lost a particularly big amount of height by then. Also, as you can see there, he's standing very straight in front of Boris (which is something I'm not sure he often did), and he still looks AT LEAST 1 cm shorter than him, IMO. As for McBride, I'm not sure about him, whether he really was 6'4.5 or possibly nearer to 6'4 flat, though he did look comfortably taller than someone like John Larroquette, who gets listed at 6'4 on here: Click Here Click Here And certainly more than he did with Boris, with whom he struggled to look any taller. Here's another clip of them (the guy in the middle who speaks into the microphone is 6'2.25 listed Mehcad Brooks, mind you): Click Here
viper said on 13/Nov/18
After seeing Merriman with Martellus Bennet barefoot. We can easily say Boris is taller
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Nov/18
He was also listed 189cm on old sites when he was a model.
Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Rising: admittedly I can’t tell to the letter who’s taller either. I agree it’s not a good video or gauge and also because the two are close in height even if an inch separates them (give or take). Of course, this is my opinion. You called it well with the basketball players but even for Jordan you have him 195 and I had him 194-194.5 (6’4.5) so about 1/4” difference but the differences surely will influence our perceptions of the players and the person being compared to. Too bad the pics with Roger Bobb weren’t great either nor do we know exactly how tall he is
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Nov/18
@Andrea

The same excuses and arguments you made when you accused Jamie Foxx of wearing lifts or accused Akon of tiptoeing, all because Boris didn't look 6'4" in those pics? Or the same excuses and arguments you love to spew in pics where Boris looks sub-6'4", as "having bad camera angles"? Take a look at yourself in the mirror before you judge others.
Andrea said on 12/Nov/18
No, Christian. "Logic" and "sense" only applies when people know what they're talking about, and they don't need to come out with nonsense excuses and "arguments" to cover their bias and hidden agenda. Nice joke, btw.
Rising - 174 cm said on 12/Nov/18
@Canson: That's kind of tough to judge. I will say Chi is taller for a second when they first stop around 24 or 25, but then Boris looks taller and then Chi is farther from the camera and slouching the rest of the clip so there's only maybe 2 seconds to fairly compare when they're standing. Walking is even tougher because Chi puts his head down, but then Boris leans in when they're talking and you can't pause to check when they're walking like you can when they're standing. Personally, I'd guess very little height difference between them overall, but I suspect you may be right about Chi being more 6'4" flat. As for the shoes in the Kobe pic, as I said, I'm not ruling out 1" for Boris's shoes because the angle is kind of high in all pics and I don't know the model, but my guess would have been more 0.7"-0.8". Either way I agree Boris looks below 6'4" there and as I said, I get why you'd estimate him 6'3" range since I assume you're giving more weight to how he looks with Kobe, Barkley, Dirk etc. I have a hard time estimating the difference with Jordan, though. The Barkley, Kobe, Dirk pics are all much better, imo. Obviously, I believe Jordan is taller than Boris, but I can't guess how much with Jordan behind him. I wouldn't go below 6'3.5" for Boris overall, but considering you estimate some of the basketball players lower than I do, that would make sense I'd guess Boris higher than you do. As for Roddick, I hadn't really looked at him before this, but 187 range may be more accurate.

@Andrea: I've guessed Serena similar height to Casper and she only reaches around Boris' mouth so I'd think that was 8", but she is bending her knee. Boris looks a full 6'4" with Marlon, imo.
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Christian: to clarify, I would probably say it’s 3-3.5cm difference between them. 3.5 is very possible with the knee and the angle of the camera. So going off that and accounting for footwear that would take it to 190.3-190.8. Absolute max I would say is 190.8-191.3 if we go with the 3cm diff accounting for Kobe’s knee. Otherwise maybe 191-191.3 is an absolute. While 191 is very possible for him 190.5 is just as good an estimate. Rising mentioned 192 as did Andrea and we have seen in many pics of other celebs where one is suspected to be the listed height and they end up a CM or two shorter when rob meets them
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Christian: to clarify, I would probably say it’s 3-3.5cm difference between them. 3.5 is very possible with the knee and the angle of the camera. So going off that and accounting for footwear that would take it to 190.3-190.8. Absolute max I would say is 190.8-191.3 if we go with the 3cm diff accounting for Kobe’s knee. While 191 is possible for him 190.5 is just as good an estimate. Rising mentioned 192 as did Andrea and we have seen in many pics of other celebs where one is suspected to be the listed height and they end up a CM or two shorter when rob meets them
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Rising: I can narrow it to :24-:26.
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Rising: I’d say around :20-:26 when the two are having the conversation about the basketball coach and player walking down the steps
Canson said on 12/Nov/18
@Christian: Thanks! And you definitely just as much as well
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Nov/18
@Andrea

I guess "logic" and "sense" only applies when you agree with it. Canson has just as much logic and sense as Rising, but you treat him like crap.
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Christian: agreed. With the small footwear advantage, Kobe would have that. 0.7-.8 is too little. That shoe that Boris has on is a full inch and Kobe has on a canvas shoe which is 5/8 maybe 3/4”. Best case is it’s a 1/4” worst case 3/8. I think he looks 6’3” as well. I just think it’s hilarious that you and I were lectured a couple weeks ago about “respecting the opinions of others” when you read the contents of the hypocritical comment below the one you just made.
Rising - 174 cm said on 11/Nov/18
@Canson: Thanks and which part of the clip do you mean? When they're walking or standing talking? And yeah, I think Chi's posture is up and down in general. I remember they made it so he didn't look 5" taller than 5'11"-5'11.5" Bruce Willis in Mercury Rising. Sometimes I would have said 3"-3.5" difference between them and we know that's not the case, but some of that probably had to do with not wanting the hero(Willis) to be towered.

@Andrea: Thanks, I have seen a decent chunk of those, but not all and I had forgotten I had seen some like the Cena pic. Certainly, Boris looks no less than 6'4" with him and he looks about that with 5'9" Anthony Anderson as well. I can see an argument for just below 6'4" with Anderson, but not Cena in that pic. I had seen the James Avery clip too. How tall was Avery by 55-56 years old? I have to say that the difference with Damien Woody looks an absolute minimum 2 cm to me in that pic. It's hard for me to argue Boris is looking right around 6'4" there compared to Woody's measurement. I'll look through some of the others I haven't over the next few days.
Andrea said on 11/Nov/18
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26. 6'0.5 listed Marlon Wayans: Click Here Click Here Click Here "
And speaking of tennis players, look at how big Boris looks next to Serena Williams, who the majority of people seem to think is at least as tall as her 5'9 listing: Click Here
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 11/Nov/18
@Canson

Also, Kobe had one of his knees bent on top of that. Boris just looks flat 6'3" with him. I see a 1.75" difference.
Andrea said on 11/Nov/18
LOL... Thank God there's you who brings some logic and sense into this page, Rising!
If Boris' shoes really are thicker than Kobe's, I doubt it's anything noticeable (not even a 1/4 of an inch), as I agree that they don't seem over that 0.7-0.8 range. Which, more or less, is what even Rob said. And Rob certainly has some knowledge about footwear and shoes thickness...
As for McBride, if anything, he did look barely taller than Boris in Boston Public, like 0.5 inch at the very most, as you can see in this scene I myself have posted: Click Here . And today, I wouldn't be surprised if Boris was the taller one, as already in 2013 Chi could look no taller than Boris, despite being in more footwear: Click Here Click Here Click Here Btw, since you said that you hadn't seen the clip, I assume you haven't seen all the pics and clips I've posted so far, so I'll copy and paste the last list I've posted for you:
"For reference, here's Boris with:
1. 6'1.5 listed Boris Becker: Click Here Click Here Click Here
2. 6'0.5 (6'1 peak) listed Steve Harvey and 6' Tyson Beckford: Click Here With the same Steve Harvey, back in 1998 (so certainly still at his peak height, considering that he was only around 40 back then): Click Here
3. 6'5.5 listed Kevin Durand: Click Here Click Here
4. 6'1 listed Oded Fehr: Click Here Click Here
5. 6'6 listed Rick Fox: Click Here Click Here
6. 6' listed James Van Der Beek: Click Here
7. 6' listed Kim Coates: Click Here
8. 6'7.5 listed Magic Johnson: Click Here Click Here
9. 6'1 listed Brian J White: Click Here
10. 5'11 listed Wayne Brady: Click Here
11. 6'4 listed Henry Simmons: Click Here
12. 5'10.75 listed Tyrese Gibson: Click Here
13. 6'1.5-6'2 range AJ Calloway: Click Here The same AJ with Jared: Click Here
14. 5'9.25 listed Casper Van Dien: Click Here
15. 5'11-6' range Dr. Oz: Click Here
16. 6'0.5 listed Wentworth Miller: Click Here
17. 6'4 (6'4.5 peak) listed Dennis Haysbert: Click Here Click Here
18. 6'3 range Nigel Barker: Click Here
19. 6'3 range Jerome Boateng: Click Here
20. 6'3 1/8 MEASURED Damien Woody: Click Here
21. 196 listed Dustin Brown: Click Here The same Dustin with Andy Murray: Click Here Click Here
22. 6'4.5 listed Chi McBride: Click Here And Boris even seems to be in less footwear than Chi: Click Here Click Here With the same Chi, back in 2000s (when Chi was only just over 40, so I doubt he had already lost anything by then): Click Here
23. 6'0.5 listed John Cena: Click Here
24. 6'4.25 listed Tyler Perry: Click Here
25. 6'4.75 listed James Avery (in his late 50s): Click Here
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Rising: for Boris’s shoe I wouldn’t go under an inch but not above either. That’s “about” the norm for that type of sneaker (at least if they’re what I think they are)
Canson said on 11/Nov/18
@Rising: lol i see what you’re saying. From that pic I have Boris around the 191 range but with his camera advantage I’ll admit that’s possible. Here’s the clip from Boston Public. One take away is that Chi doesn’t always stand at his best.

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Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Nov/18
@Canson: All the photos I've seen from that event are high so they don't give me as good of a look at his shoes as I'd like so as I said, I'm not certain, but imo, those look more like they'd be 0.7"-0.8". but, Boris might have 1/4" thicker footwear. For arguments sake if Kobe is 6'4.75"(which I believe would be his low if anything) or even 6'5" then Boris does look more likely 6'3.5" than 6'4" with him, imo. For arguments sake, if we just call Kobe 194.9 as Rob has him(which I believe would be his low if anything) and I concede 0.5 cm footwear advantage then that would mean Boris looks 191.4 with him, imo or 191.3. I won't argue 1 mm lol so you could say 0.6 cm footwear advantage. I use to watch Boston Public sometimes when it originally aired, but I don't remember Boris so I'll have to see the clip. I think I saw more of the show in the first 2, maybe 3 seasons and perhaps occasionally towards the end, but I wouldn't doubt McBride was taller.
Canson said on 10/Nov/18
@Rising: so to be fair, Christian and I have both been arguing this entire time that there is evidence of him looking 6’3” and there is. Both of our arguments have been that he can look 6’3 just as he can 6’4”. All I’ve said is that just because there are “more pics of him looking 6’4” doesn’t mean that he is. We could have 20 pics 13 6’4 and 7 6’3 and if the 10 of the 13 are bad or inconclusive, then it negates it. Another place where he looks 6’3” is with Michael Jordan and with the Game, Boris looks sub 6’3” like he does with Jamie Foxx. But we are told that there are no pics or only one or two. There are several where he looks around 6’3”
Canson said on 10/Nov/18
@Rising: my guess on the shoe difference is 1/4” to 3/8”. I have canvas shoes that add 3/4” but as Christian pointed out most add about 5/8”. I can agree that Boris’s shoes may not add over an inch but not under either. I would say exactly 1”. So if the difference is about 3cm (I won’t rule out 3.5 to be honest since Boris is favored), but I’ll go with around 3. I would say Kobe coming out at 194.9 would make Boris about 191.9. That’s also if that’s Kobe’s lowest but it’s close I’d agree. Then taking footwear into account he comes out at 191-191.3. I used to think he was under 6’3” but today I don’t rule out a hair over 6’3”. I just think he’s closer to 6’3” than 6’4 and much closer. I saw the clip of he and Chi McBride when Boris was on Boston Public and there was one. Where he looked clearly taller than Boris when he stood straight it looked 3 cm for a moment then 2cm for a moment. Either way, I have always had Chi as closer to 6’4 as opposed to 6’4.5.

As far as Roddick, a 6’1.5 wouldn’t surprise me nor would 6’1.75. Rampage usually tends to estimate higher than I do (that’s just how he sees it because I have a ton of respect for and think the world of Rampage as he is very classy just like you are) and he even guessed him as under 6’2” (6’1.75)
Canson said on 10/Nov/18
@Rising: my guess on the shoe difference is 1/4” to 3/8”. I have canvas shoes that add 3/4” but as Christian pointed out most ads about 5/8”. I can agree that Boris’s shoes may not add over an inch but not under either. I would say exactly 1”. So if the difference is about 3cm (I won’t rule out 3.5 to be honest since Boris is favored), but I’ll go with around 3. I would say Kobe coming out at 194.9 would make Boris about 191.9. Then taking footwear into account he comes out at 190.8-191.3. I used to think he was under 6’3” but today I don’t rule out a hair over 6’3”. I just think he’s closer to 6’3” than 6’4 and much closer. I saw the clip of he and Chi McBride when Boris was on Boston Public and there was one. Where he looked clearly taller than Boris when he stood straight it looked 3 cm for a moment then 2cm for a moment. Either way, I have always had Chi as closer to 6’4 as opposed to 6’4.5.
Rising - 174 cm said on 10/Nov/18
@Canson: You're right about Kobe's shoe, but I didn't think the shoe Boris was wearing looked that thick(1"+), though the pics from that event don't give me the best view of it without recognizing the specific model so you might be right. Depends on the pic with Isner and how much height Isner drops. Boris doesn't look under 6'4" to me in this one unless Isner's lean is making him lose over an inch: Click Here Wouldn't surprise me on a guy that tall, but Boris still looks about 6'4" to me if Andy Roddick is 6'1.75" as listed. I could also see Boris 6'4" here if Isner isn't losing anything: Click Here and he's making Roddick look closer to 6'1". I thought Dirk was about 6'11", but Boris struggles to even to reach his nose even with Dirk slouching: Click Here So I'd agree Boris looks like he might be 6'3" with Dirk if you consider posture or estimate Dirk under 6'11", though he still measures up ok to Isner unless he has a camera advantage, in which case Dirk would have one over Boris as well.
Canson said on 9/Nov/18
There are several pics of Boris with a British producer named Roger Bobb who now resides in the US. They are all over the place as well. One of which that is not posted below shows Boris taller due to camera advantage (type Boris’s full name first then Roger’s full name). Bobb for reference, is listed at 6’5. Whether he is actually that tall remains to be seen but he surely looked it or at least close to it in most at least the good pictures. I wouldn’t put him less than 6’4” range and perhaps even 6’5 or 195cm in some pics. Boris looked as tall in another one but looked “close to” 3” shorter in another (likely due to posture which is about the same as Rick Fox’s posture in the picture with Boris). If we address that then we would need to acknowledge Fox having the same disadvantage as it’s also clear his posture does not match Boris’s. On balance, Bobb is clearly taller than Boris making him look around 6’3”

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Canson said on 9/Nov/18
@Viper: I think he would be the taller of the two as well but the perception of Boris’s height varies based on pics just as it does for Merriman’s. And that’s even if it’s just one picture where he looks something other than 6’3-6’4”
Canson said on 8/Nov/18
@Rising: Boris also had a slight footwear advantage on Kobe in the picture. Kobe is wearing a Canvas shoe 5/8” to 3/4”, whereas Boris’s shoe is a 1” (at minimum) sneaker. That’s at worst 1/4” difference at best 1/2”. Best case is 6’3.25, but perhaps 6’3”. And If we look at the pic with Dirk Nowitzki or John Isner, Boris looks 6’3”
Canson said on 8/Nov/18
@Rising: I’ve seen pics where (if we use Rob’s listings for a celeb), we could believe that Boris is 6’6”-6’7”. These aren’t necessarily good pics for gauging height but that may be the case with the pic you’re referring to with Foxx. He looks 6’2 with him but can’t see much there in the way of posture etc.
viper said on 8/Nov/18
Boris is certainly taller than Merriman
Rising - 174 cm said on 8/Nov/18
@Andrea: The Kobe photos are difficult to estimate the difference because Boris is closer, but the full pic is at a noticeably high angle and looks to me like it's tilted a bit against Boris. The other pic is probably a bit better aside from not being full, though the angle now appears low so I think being closer does give him an advantage there and makes the top of his hat about even with Kobe's shaved head and their eye level still seems a good 4 cm apart, but Kobe's eye to head is a good cm smaller than a lot of 6'4"-6'5" men, so that's part of how I arrived at 3 cm. In reality, all of those variables are too much for me to be confident it shows the precise difference one way or the other. As for Barkley, you're probably right about footwear, though I wouldn't be surprised at all if Boris had better posture in some of the pics. But the actual difference to me looks 4-4.5 cm in those first 2 pics(which are the best ones, imo) and 1.5"-2" was more the broader range I saw so at least for me, I'd deduct for footwear from about 1.75". With that said, when I argue Barkley's height, I don't use certain contested heights(Merriman, Conan, Boris) to argue my case so with a Barkley being a strange case himself, the same applies in reverse for how I'd personally estimate Boris. I'm just saying that if you think those NBA players are the heights Canson, Christian and viper do then you'll have a hard time seeing Boris over 6'3.5". And struggling with 6'4" even if you see them at what Rob lists them with the one exception being Magic since Rob lists him 6'7.5" and Rob guessed the difference at 3.5" between Magic and Boris. Though if you apply the same standard to Obama with Michael Jordan, then I think you'll have a hard time seeing Obama a full 6'1", fwiw. Though overall, I agree with you. I honestly expected Boris to look shorter with the 6'2" and 6'3" listings, but from most of the comparisons I've seen so far, Boris looks 6'4", especially with Casper. I also agree the Merriman case is different because he often looks considerably shorter than I've seen Boris look so far and it's much more difficult to see why Merriman would be downgraded in college than Boris downgraded modeling since even viper acknowledged 6'3"+ models have been downgraded to 6'2". I also agree on Armie Hammer from what I've seen so far. And that's why I was backing you on Jamie. He can legitimately go from looking under 5'9" to at least 5'10". Mr. R even alluded to meeting Jamie before he "grew" with more fame. Jamie may be 176 cm like Casper if he doesn't wear lifts, but with less question over Casper's height and considering he's on video with Boris in a wide shot, I have to give that more weight myself.
Andrea said on 7/Nov/18
The fact that he used to get listed at 6'2 and 6'3 isn't that surprising because it's a known fact that models' and actors' heights can often be downplayed, once they exceed certain marks. That being said, Rising, you make some very good points, and I agree, more or less, with everything you said. Though, while I don't necessarily disagree with you saying that Kobe looks at least 3 cms taller than Boris, I also don't think it's anything more than that. And as for Barkley, while I agree that it's hard to believe there's less than an inch between them from those photos, I'm not sure there would be as much as 1.5-2 inches either. Besides, I think that Barkley has at least a 1/4 inch footwear advantage over Boris there, given that Boris' shoes seem your typical 0.75-1 inch dress shoes, while Barkley's seem thicker than that and probably no less than 1.2 inches. Anyway, as I've always said, while I don't 100% rule out 6'3.5, anything less than that is pure fantasy, and in fact, even that mark generally does seem too low for him, and if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity he appeared with needs a major downgrade (and some already do, if he's only 6'4 flat). And since you mentioned him, I must say that his case is totally different than Shawne's, given that, unlike Shawne (whose height can really look all over the place for some reason), Boris constantly looks somewhere around 6'4, be it a fraction under or a fraction over (even though he does look a strong 6'4 much more often than a weak 6'4), more than the majority of celebrities listed at 6'4 or even over on here. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a guy like Armie Hammer wasn't any taller than him, or even a bit shorter...
As for Jamie Foxx, me saying that he could have been in lifts was part of a larger conversation, considering that I've seen him appearing taller than his 5'9 claim with more than one celebrity, especially with Channing Tatum, who is supposedly 6'0.5 and who can look barely 2 inches taller than him (and in his case, in more than one pic), though I realize that that pic with Boris isn't enough to tell it, especially since, as you said, it could be a lot of things in a pic like that...
Canson said on 7/Nov/18
@Rising: agreed. I used to believe his 6’2.5 listings but after seeing more of him, I doubt he’s much less than 6’3”. I still don’t believe that he’s 6’4” but I could see 191cm now. He does have the very tall proportions unlike Merriman, meaning longer legs etc and he’s thinner than Merriman.
Canson said on 7/Nov/18
@Rising: agreed. I used to believe his 6’2.5 listings but after seeing more of him, I doubt he’s much less than 6’3”. I still don’t believe that he’s 6’4” but I could see 191cm now
Rising - 174 cm said on 6/Nov/18
@Canson: I'd say a bit less than Merriman and if you notice, the range argued for Merriman is wider. Whether this is mostly posture, build and proportions or because Boris is taller by a larger amount than the small difference shown in their photo is the question. Boris is mostly argued within an inch range give or take while Merriman is argued within at least a 2", even 3" range. A good photo of Boris and Armie Hammer side by side would be very interesting.
Canson said on 5/Nov/18
@Rising: I think Boris’s height looks all over the place just like Merriman’s does.
Rising - 174 cm said on 5/Nov/18
I figured the fascination was partially the various heights given for this guy from 6'2" to 6'4". I will say he looks huge in that clip with Casper, especially the wide shot when they're walking, but the difference is still close to 7" in the closeup when they're standing, which is surprising because height differences are often minimized in closeups. He looks every bit of 6'4" in that scene, looks taller than Tyler Perry, looks the full 6'4" with Wentworth and with Wayne Brady compared to how Vernon Davis looked. He looks at least that on the video with Fox, but there's some question about the photo if you think Fox is only 6'5.5" since the difference is maybe 3 cm before considering posture. The Magic photo is a bit tricky since I wouldn't guess less than a 3.5" difference so if you buy Magic at 6'7.5" then Boris could be 6'4"you could argue the difference between their heads looks small enough to be 3.5" max, but he's also just above Magic's eye so you can argue at least a 4" difference and we're talking small fractions so it depends on whether you buy Magic at the full 6'7.5". I also see Kobe at least 3 cm taller and Boris also just edges out Shawne Merriman(though they're on grass) so it depends on how tall you think Shawne is. But Boris looks 1.5"-2" shorter than Barkley: Click Here Click Here Click Here My position on Chuck is well known so I won't get into that here, but whatever height you think Barkley is, listing both Boris and Merriman less than an inch shorter than Barkley seems a stretch, imo since Barkley LOOKS 4-4.5 cm taller than Boris and even taller in his pic with Merriman.

Aside from obviously reading different things into the various listings, I think that as Tunman said, it depends on whether you go by what he generally looks, especially with guys Rob has met or whether you give more weight to the comparisons to basketball players like Kobe and Barkley. If it's the former then the 6'4" listing makes sense, but if it's the latter then you probably wouldn't guess Boris above 6'3.5". I do want to defend Andrea's speculation about Jamie Foxx wearing lifts because Andrea isn't the first person to speculate about that. Doesn't mean Jamie wears them or was wearing them that night, just that Andrea didn't pull that out of thin air. For the record, I don't THINK Jamie was wearing lifts at that event. The immediate thing that stands out is Boris is slouching and leaning in plus Jamie is a little closer: Click Here Canson is right in that Boris winds up looking 6'2" range, though I don't know how much Boris is losing.
Canson said on 3/Nov/18
@Viper: he’s been listed at 6’2.5 as well. Bobby3342 claimed to have met him and said he looked around that height or 6’2.75. Not saying that’s Gospel but it is possible. I personally feel that he’s somewhere most likely right around 190-191. I’ll even expand the window and say 6’2.75-6’3.25 as a full 191 can’t be ruled out either
viper said on 2/Nov/18
Fascination is that he's listed at 6-2 and 6-3 on his model profile, yet he's listed 6-4 here.

Models 6-3 plus have been rounded down to 6-2.

But I think he's 6-3 as do many others.
Arch Stanton said on 1/Nov/18
Don't understand the precoccupation with this guy. Tall, handsome black fella but what is the fascination really?
Canson said on 31/Oct/18
@Christian: he does in the pic
Andrea said on 30/Oct/18
Boris does look AT LEAST 3 cms taller than Vernon in that picture.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 30/Oct/18
@Canson

That's true, Boris did have some footwear advantage over Brady. But still, overall Boris looked taller than Davis. I believe if you measure them, they'll be very similar in height, but Boris looked taller in the clip.
Canson said on 27/Oct/18
@Christian: at different points, it could look different. I also noticed Brady has similar footwear (at least it appears) as Davis whereas Boris had a footwear advantage on Wayne Brady
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 24/Oct/18
@Canson

Boris looked somewhat taller Click Here
Canson said on 24/Oct/18
Some people need to be taught common sense as well
Andrea said on 23/Oct/18
Some people should really be taught the basics of height gauging, LOL.
Canson said on 22/Oct/18
@Christian: yep and we could have 20 pics. 10 are horrendous 5 bad and 5 good. Even if the former 15 show a 6’3.5 or 6’4 Merriman or Boris the other 5 may show 6’2 or 6’2.5. Just because there are more occurrences doesn’t mean that they are good pics
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 21/Oct/18
@Canson

Same thing with Merriman. Some people will say that Merriman's 6'3.5" because he looks it "more" often in pics than 6'2.5"
Canson said on 20/Oct/18
@Christian: would you say that Davis looks the same way next to Wayne Brady as Boris did? To me they do

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Andrea said on 19/Oct/18
I think the difference between them looks very close to 7 inches, Tunman, so assuming that Casper is 5'9.25 (which certainly seems very honest and believable next to Rob), Boris doesn't look any less than 6'4 with him, IMO.
Now, while I agree that 192 range isn't impossible, I am quite confident that if Rob ever meets him, he wouldn't give him any less than 6'4, considering that there are many celebrities that he has met and that he lists at the full 6'4, even if they could potentially measure closer to 6'3.5 than 6'4 (IMO), such as Jason Momoa (though I think that Boris would be easily taller than Momoa, and very similar to someone like Jared Padalecki, who I think is more of a solid 6'4).
As for Tom, his new listing isn't that surprising and I myself did say that I'd expect him to be anywhere around 6'2.5, just before Rob met him. Though I understand why many people thought he was a genuine 6'3 because he could certainly pull off looking that tall on Smallville, but again, he was often in big boots, which certainly gave him a decent advantage over the majority of his costars and made him look much closer to 6'3 than 6'2.5. In Boris' case, I think that anywhere around 6'4 is possible for him, which means that I wouldn't rule out a fraction over either, and in fact I think he has much more chance of measuring over 6'4 than many celebrities listed at 6'4+, such as Tyler Perry, who in fact looked (comfortably) shorter than him in that movie they did together: Click Here
Canson said on 19/Oct/18
@Tunman: but if you look at the pic with Kobe, Boris has a slight footwear advantage with him and is closer to the camera and still looks max 6’3”.
Canson said on 18/Oct/18
@Christian: that’s correct and it becomes a “quantitative” argument as always. Just because there are “more” pics of Boris looking 6’4” than 6’3” despite the fact that some pics are inferior to others.
Tunman said on 18/Oct/18
Hmmm,I could be wrong but if you stop at 0:27 with Casper I would have thought a solid 16cm difference perhaps 16,5 if his head is very close to 10" but maybe not quite 17.I feel there's still a chance he's 6'3.5-3.75" but no less for sure.
Casper is the textbook of how a 5'9.25" should look as Rob said,which is also his claim.It's just too bad Rob doesn't meet every celeb listed.I bet many may turn a little shorter in person(I'm speaking of 0.25"or 0.5"tops).Just think about Tom Welling whom many argued was a strong 6'3.
In the end I can go with the 193 listing for Boris but 192 is just as possible imo.
Andrea said on 17/Oct/18
To be honest, I think Rick is more of a weak 6'6, Tunman, but nonetheless, even if Rick is say 6'5.5, I don't think Boris looks any less than 6'4 with him, both in this photo Click Here and, even more so, in this video Click Here .
That being said, I can see how 6'3.5 doesn't seem impossible with Kobe and Barkley (if they really are as low as 6'4.75), but apart from them, he basically always looks (at least) a solid 6'4 with everybody else (more than the majority of celebrities listed at 6'4 or even over on here), including people that Rob has met (so whose heights are pretty much confirmed), such as Kim Coates Click Here , Casper Van Dien Click Here and Wentworth Miller Click Here .
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Oct/18
@Tunman

Sure, he looks 6'4" in a lot of pics, but can also look 6'3" in many others as well.
Canson said on 15/Oct/18
@Tunman: I can agree 6’4 looks low for Kobe. I couldn’t buy less than 6’4.5 but 6’4.75 looks more accurate. Boris looks 6’3” with Kobe however and Barkley
Tunman said on 15/Oct/18
To be fair he looks every bit of 6'4 and even over if Rick Fox is the full 6'6.Now if we except some BB players (Barkley,Kobe,Magic)with whom he can look 6'3.5" I think 6'4 is very honest.In fact 6'3.5"isn't impossible assuming many people listed here look shorter than their listing next to Kobe.So taking off 0.5" from their height isn't out of question.Either this or Kobe has to be 6'5+ but then why downplaying himself and insist he's only 6'4 (6'5 with shoes)
Canson said on 18/Sep/18
@Viper: lol I wouldn’t say “even Stevie wonder could see it” because Boris is not a clear cut case. But he doesn’t look proportionately 6’4 either when he even has long legs. More importantly, Andrea is right that in some pics he can appear 6’4 or even 6’5. Hell in one looked 6’6-6’7 but that’s an outlier. He can also look 6’2” at times.
Andrea said on 16/Sep/18
LOL, again, whatever helps you sleep at night, viper. 😊
Canson said on 15/Sep/18
To be fair Andrea, comments are all over the place here. Some say 6’2 some 6’3 some 6’4. It’s all about how each individual views Boris. I wouldn’t make a bold statement like Viper made because I’ve never met Boris but my opinion is also that he’s somewhere around 6’3”. Of course it’s an opinion because I’ve never met him
viper said on 13/Sep/18
Your projection is tiring. Anyway, yes, I think he should be downgraded to what the average is. Sorry you are the only poster who thinks he's 6-4. Even Stevie Wonder can see he isnt
Andrea said on 11/Sep/18
If he really could, I wonder why he still hasn't, my troll friend...
And even if the majority of people saw Boris at 6'3 like you say (which is certainly not the case if you take a look at all the comments), I don't see what that would prove. The pics out there certainly speak for themselves (unless you are biased or a troll downgrader, which you certainly are).
viper said on 10/Sep/18
Let me put it in this context. If I had a chance to win 500 million dollars to just answer is Boris at least 6-3 or is he actually under it, I would have to say he's at least 6-3. Then If the question was is he 6-4, I would say no he's under it.

That's where you get your true convictions from with that kind of money on the line lol.
viper said on 9/Sep/18
I said Rob can back me up I didn't rig Boris' average.

Sorry the majority see Boris at 6-3
Canson said on 6/Sep/18
This is getting old accusing Viper of rigging average guesses with no proof.
Andrea said on 6/Sep/18
Yeah, I bet you didn't, viper. 😉
viper said on 4/Sep/18
I haven't messed with the average guess on Boris. Try again sweetheart. Rob can back me up on that.
Andrea said on 3/Sep/18
You said it right, Christian. That's just how YOU see it.
Canson said on 3/Sep/18
@Christian: I think it’s more of how Andrea has assessed other celebs as to how he comes to his estimates which is fair because I’ve done that as well. Rob as well has done it and it shows when guys like Khodjoe and Merriman are still overlisted. Same with Derek Theler. This is referring to the 6’3.5 being possibly low due to how he stacks up with others. But a lot of the basis for a 6’4” Khodjoe estimate uses questionable pics. There are better pics where he doesn’t look 6’4 (more 6’3) as well or at very worst, the pics are no worse than those where he looks 6’4”.
Andrea said on 2/Sep/18
"viper said on 30/Aug/18
A downgrade to the average guess.
So 6-3.25"
Hmm, I really wonder why the "Average" Guess is so low... 😊
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 1/Sep/18
@Andrea

You don't seem to respect Junior's 6'3.5" estimate for Boris. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's just how I see it.
viper said on 30/Aug/18
A downgrade to the average guess.
So 6-3.25
Canson said on 27/Aug/18
@Dream: I think 6’3 but even 6’3.5 is better than 6’4 for him. That would be a good start imho
Dream(5'9.5") said on 26/Aug/18
Rob, I would say a slight downgrade to 6’3.75” would be better.
Andrea said on 25/Aug/18
As I have already said, Junior, while I don't 100% rule out something like 6'3.5 (which, btw, I've never seen him claiming, and which is certainly the absolute lowest I can see him at), if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity he appeared with needs a major downgrade (and some already do, if he's only 6'4 flat), including those ones who got measured (such as Damien Woody) and those ones who Rob has met (such as Kim Coates, Casper Van Dien, Wentworth Miller and Rick Fox)...
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 23/Aug/18
@Andrea One thing for sure he can measure 6'4 certain time of the day in the morning. 6'3 1/2 is more he look and he once claim it. I wouldn't argue below 6'3 1/4 but he don't look 6'4.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 6/Aug/18
@Canson @Andrea

I think we need to stop the argument. I don't care what anyone thinks of others like. If we can just let it go, then that's good enough. Look, I should have not said the stuff in that way. I apologize for being uncivilized. Now, can we please drop the argument? We're still on good terms, no doubt. It's just the argument is getting out of hand.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 4/Aug/18
Just drop the argument. I don't care if I wasn't asked to play peacemaker.

I think this site has had enough of it.
Canson said on 1/Aug/18
@Dream: I think the real issue here as you see with the “threat” 😂 below “Just a friendly heads up”, that Andrea thinks he is both entitled here and that he is not going to receive any type of reprimand or consequences from Rob for what he says. I mean, Come on! 😂. He has also gone on to say “I’d have to put pressure on Rob to downgrade a lot of celebs” if Khodjoe were only 6’3”. Anyone who uses those types of words clearly thinks that they’re entitled or that he is Rob’s pet. This also shows when Christian and I received the responses to our posts when we retaliated against Andrea but very seldom did Andrea receive one. Now I have a ton of respect for Rob and it may have been because our posts were sharper than his “cutting more” in retaliation to the stuff we received, but it clearly sent the message to Andrea and to make him think that he is the “teacher’s pet” and that he is untouchable here on this site. I mean you see just how many people have intervened just since this began a year ago and every single one that has truly intervened has made comments along the same lines as the ones that you and Celebheights 6’1.5 made earlier this Summer
Andrea said on 30/Jul/18
"We get triggered. Cry me a river."??? Wtf are you even talking about, Dream? 😂😂😂
As you can see, I did try to drop the argument, but certain people on here clearly have a hard time doing the same, and they regularly have to run their mouth and come out with new BS and childish remarks because that's probably all they can do...
P.S. Just a friendly heads-up, Dream. If you want to play the peacemaker (which is something nobody asked you to do, btw), at least act like one, and do not take anyone's side... 😉
Dream(5'9.5") said on 28/Jul/18
Jesus Christ, can we stop the argument now?

How many times has this went on. Can we stop it, please? Don't tell Rob or anyone, 'NANANANANANA!' Just have a more civil discussion.

@Canson and @Christian are right. No one has a problem believing one believing Boris to be 6'4".

@Andrea Can we please not bring it up again? We get triggered. I get it. It's not like we're writing a twenty page essay over something. This feud isn't going anywhere.

@Viper Let's just agree to disagree. Everyone different point of views.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 28/Jul/18
Jesus Christ, can we stop the argument now?

How many times has this went on. Can we stop it, please? Don't tell Rob or anyone, 'NANANANANANA!' Just have a more civil discussion.

@Canson and @Christian are right. No one has a problem believing one believing Boris to be 6'4".

@Andrea Can we please not bring it up again? We get triggered. Cry me a river. It's not like we're writing a twenty page essay over something.
Andrea said on 22/Jul/18
LOL, cool story, Christian. Too bad that's exactly what you've been doing from the very beginning of the whole discussion, and what you often do whenever people on here don't buy your sh*t and dare to disagree with you. Seriously, can you be more hypocrite than this? LMFAO
Canson said on 22/Jul/18
@Viper: 6’2” isn’t an unreasonable estimate for Welling. He would measure somewhere in the 6’2” range.

@Andrea and Viper: As far as one of you bringing up and the other having to explain the past estimates and transgressions, you don’t need to do that. So what. It’s in the past, focus on the now
viper said on 21/Jul/18
At least I changed my mind on Jared and think he's 6-4 now. More than I can say for you.

Still undecided on Tom Welling. Don't think he's just 6-1 anymore, but don't think he's more than 6-2 either
Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Christian: exactly! And that last response back to Viper is further proof of it.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Jul/18
@Canson

I agree. I don't have an issue with Andrea believing Kodjoe's 6'4", as he's fully entitled to his opinions. What's sad about him though is that he has to use childish tactics and remarks just because he didn't agree with us.
Andrea said on 16/Jul/18
Well, viper, considering that you said a similar thing to those people who rightfully believed that Jared was a 6'4 guy, you saying something like that is just another confirmation that Boris isn't less than 6'4. See, your "estimates" aren't that bad after all... If you remember to add 1.5-2 inches to the majority of them, of course!
And if you want to talk about sad stuff, why don't we talk about the fact that you needed to use a countless number of "fake names/accounts" to comment on here in the last years, clearly to cover your identity and fuc*ed up reputation (and even to agree with yourself, LOL at that), and the fact that you got busted trying to lowball many Average Guesses with different IPs and names? Now, that's very sad indeed.
Canson said on 15/Jul/18
@Viper: I don’t think he is 6’4” but Andrea is entitled to his opinion that he is if we are entitled to ours that he’s 6’3”. Dissuading on our part is no better than him doing that to be honest
Canson said on 15/Jul/18
@Junior: 6’3” is just as possible as 6’3.5
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 13/Jul/18
Boris atually ever claim 6'3 1/2 and was listed it for a long time before Rob leave him at 6'4. He might be 6'3 1/2 not as low as 6'3.
viper said on 12/Jul/18
Does Andrea still think he's 6-4? Sad
Canson said on 10/Jul/18
@Junior: possible he was maybe 6’0.25 and claimed shoes like other celebs and is 5’11.5 today. I wonder how tall Nephew Tommy actually is. That’s his nephew, Tommy Miles
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 8/Jul/18
Steve Harvey really start to look as short as 5'11 1/2.
Canson said on 30/Jun/18
Agreed Viper. Today He is peak he was over
viper said on 30/Jun/18
IMO Steve Harvey is under 6-0.
Canson said on 24/Jun/18
Comparing Steve Harvey to Boris and also to Snoop Dogg and Charles Barkley, it’s clear that Barkley and Snoop are both taller, Snoop isn’t even 6’4 himself

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Andrea said on 20/Jun/18
As far as I know, there isn't any picture of him and Chris together, MAD SAM, but I certainly would expect at least an inch between them...
This is not a direct comparison, but here's Boris and Chris with the same guy (Brian J. White, who is listed here at 6'1), with whom there's certainly a significant difference: Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 20/Jun/18
@Mad Sam: that’s a lot better than 6’4 I’d say. He could be 191 imho but no higher from how he looks with Kobe
Canson said on 19/Jun/18
I think being objective here we can see that there are pics where Boris looks over 6’4 like Christian pointed out then a solid 6’4. However, on that same token, there are pics where he looks 6’3 or even in a couple a little less
MAD SAM said on 19/Jun/18
You guys have been arguing forever .... anyway he looks slightly taller to 190-190.5 cm Chris Hemsworth (0.5-1 cm) which brings his height to 191-192 cm range
Andrea said on 18/Jun/18
LOL, good one, Christian.
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 15/Jun/18
@Andrea

Lol, relax. Don't try to start an argument with Dream. I'm sure he looked at the whole discussion from the very beginning. It's clear who started this argument, it's you. The reason I haven't posted in this page in a while is because I'm taking a break from this feud.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 15/Jun/18
@Andrea I don't care who started it. As long as it ends, it's fine. It's not impossible to move on.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 14/Jun/18
@Canson

Oh yeah!

I trust you and @Christian can easily move on and not carry on this feud.



@Andrea It's not impossible to move on. We just have different opinions. At the end of the day, that's what makes this site fun. No one physically threatened to go to your house and find your address. (That would be different story.) Some of us just has a disagreement. That's all. Calling names is common, and we shouldn't let that get to our heads.


@Celebheights 6'1.5" Agreed. Actually, would you mind commenting on other celebrity pages I've been debating on? (There is Bo Burnham, and Canson, Christian, Junior, myself, and Rob all agreed he's a solid 6'5" guy. There's Ben Barrington who Junior, Rampage, and myself believe he's over 6'4".)
Andrea said on 14/Jun/18
Dream, I suggest you to get your facts straight and take a look at the WHOLE discussion (which started almost an year ago on Idris' page, and spread over a countless number of pages, other than this one), before bestowing judgement...
As for Boris, to be fair, I've never completely ruled out something like 6'3.5 (the absolute lowest I can see him at), but if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity he appeared with needs a major downgrade (and some already do, if he's only 6'4 flat), including those ones who got measured and those ones who Rob has met...
Canson said on 14/Jun/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5 and Rob; yea I’m gonna stop myself because I don’t want to be banned. Just funny the lame excuses “it’s impossible to move on” when he’s attacking both of our posts that don’t even refer to Andrea whatsoever. It’s almost like if Christian or I post any evidence we get into this lately
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 14/Jun/18
Rob, which would you say is more likely? 6’3 3/4” or 6’4 1/4”?
Editor Rob
I'd give the possibility of 3.75 more than 4.25
Canson said on 13/Jun/18
@Dream and Rob: while you know my stance that he can look 6’3” often, I do agree that 6’3.5 certainly looks a lot better than 6’4” as that would be highly unlikely based on Kobe and Barkley and Jordan and Cam. 6’3.5 is high imho but more believable than 6’4”.
Canson said on 13/Jun/18
@Dream: I respect you a lot as a poster. And yea we may not agree on all but a lot of your estimates are very good ones.
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 13/Jun/18
@Dream I agree with that. This website is meant to be a fun place for everyone to spread their height knowledge, opinions and backgrounds to each other on celebrities. Is it really worth getting banned just to try and prove point that most people may or may not agree on? Rob did mention that “he will intervene after being lenient”, so I’d be very careful, Canson and Christian.
Editor Rob
Well, even people who step over the line aren't always permanently gone. Viper may well return if he agrees to the rules.
Andrea said on 13/Jun/18
Even considering Cam's footwear disadvantage and posture, that John Utendahl guy does look comfortably taller than him, Dream. So if John really was as low as 6'3, Cam would be no more than 6'2-6'3, and we all know it's impossible as he was measured at 6'5 at one point.
Anyway, for me this discussion could have ended months ago, as it is pretty clear that it leads nowhere, but everytime I try to get out of it, or Christian or Canson always come out with new BS and/or allegations, so it's basically impossible to move on.
As for your 6'3.875 estimate for Boris, it is certainly within the realms of possibility, although I wouldn't give him any less than the current 6'4 listing, as he generally looks more of a genuine 6'4 than the majority of celebrities listed at the same mark (or over) here. I'd say that mark (6'3.875) for Boris is as likely as 6'0.125 for Henry Cavill, certainly quite possible, but probably slightly too low overall... 😊
Editor Rob
Can you guys now just agree to disagree. I can see both points of view, though I still edge toward Boris closer to 6ft 4 than 3...
Dream(5'9.5") said on 12/Jun/18
@Andrea

That's enough. Cam is wearing less footwear, and he's leaning.

Also, Christian and Canson didn't do anything wrong. They only pointed out what needs to be heard.

Enough. I suggest we all agree to disagree. You have your opinion, and Christian and Canson has their opinion.

Can we please end the feud before Rob shuts this website down? We don't want a civil war about it.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 12/Jun/18
@Andrea

That's enough. Cam is wearing less footwear, and he's leaning.

Also, Christian and Canson didn't do anything wrong. They only pointed out what needs to be heard.

Enough. I suggest we all agree to disagree. You have your opinion, and Christian and Canson has their opinion.

Can we please end the feud?
Canson said on 12/Jun/18
@Andrea: sorry but just because somethings don’t “support” your narratives doesn’t mean that they are nonsense. You aren’t the only person who matters on this site lol. But it’s ok. You “implying that Jamie Foxx” wears lifts or accusing someone of standing on top toes, or telling Christian that Boris doesn’t look 6’3” next to Dirk Nowitzki and others when he clearly does shows how seriously you should be taken as a poster.

Either way you look at it regardless of what Utendahl is, Cam who measured 6’5” in the morning, likely at best 195 at a low still has a clear advantage on Boris and Boris has the footwear advantage. I’ll leave the door open for 191cm like Celebbeights 6’1.5 said but either way that’s closer to 6’3 than 6’4”.
Dream(5'9.5 said on 12/Jun/18
Rob, how likely is 6'3.875" for Boris?

I'm prepared to get so much hate from 'you know who.'
Editor Rob
There's a good possibility of anywhere over 6ft 3.5 to 4 range. I'd say from all I've seen a better chance of that, than 6ft 3 flat.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 12/Jun/18
@Canson I wouldn't call Utendahl 6'4", but I don't think he's under 6'3" either.

That is true too! I mean while Boris's listing is ok, he could look under it. Some times, I just don't get him. Sure, I used to do that, but It's silly. I think S.J.H. knows well compared to most people (including myself here).

You and Christian have good guesses. There are things and listings we do agree with (especially Bo Burnham, Kobe Bryant, Armie Hammer being a little under his listing), but we have some disagreements too.

At the end of the day, I would say just drop it. If Andrea is going to argue with us, then let him. We have better things to do than argue which listing is better.
Andrea said on 11/Jun/18
LOL at all those spamming and non-sense comments, Canson. But again, that's the exact reaction I expect from a brainless guy like you...
As for that John Utendahl guy, he clearly is taller than Cam, even if you give Cam the benefit of doubt that he has 0.5 inches less footwear than him (and I certainly doubt there's more than that): Click Here Click Here So if Cam himself is near enough 6'5 (or just under), that guy can't be under 6'5 and may, in fact, well be over.
Like I said, "you saying that he's 6'3 just because of a few random listings goes to show that you don't even know what you're talking about, and how seriously a poster like you should be taken. Again." 😊
Canson said on 11/Jun/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5: after seeing the pics a bit more Utendahl is taller than Boris. He may be underlisted a bit but looking at Cam in the pic I agree with everything you said that he’s taller than BK. Btw, great analysis with what you said earlier! I can see exactly what you’re saying that BK May be 6’3 1/8 or 1/4 while Cam 195ish. I don’t think Utendahl is 6’6 or anything like that but maybe 6’4 or so is possible
Canson said on 11/Jun/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5: after seeing the pics a bit more Utendahl is taller than Boris. He may be underlisted a bit but looking at Cam in the pic I agree with everything you said that he’s taller than BK. Btw, great analysis with what you said earlier! I can see exactly what you’re saying that BK May be 6’3 1/8 or 1/4 while Cam 195ish. I don’t think Utendahl is 6’6 or anything like that but maybe 6’4 is possible
Canson said on 9/Jun/18
@Dream: Utendahl has a footwear on Cam but I agree proportionately he does look taller and does look taller than his 6’3” listing. I wouldn’t hesitate to give him half inch over this. However, in this pic, Cam’s eye level is higher than his. Cam doesn’t look to be standing straight either, at least in my opinion. Even in the pic Cam looks taller than Boris, as well. Cam, having been measured in the morning at 6’5, would likely not be that later in the day. I would put him more like 195 perhaps even a touch less than 195 since they’re very early AM these days. See a comparison of 2006 numbers for example. Either way, say if the Businessman is in fact overlisted, Boris doesn’t look 6’4 with either one of them.

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At least you’re a respectable poster and don’t go around trying to belittle people like Andrea does with comments like “Dumbness” especially when none of those posts have anything to do with him. I didn’t even mention his name in either of the previous posts. He gets insulted anytime someone says Boris looks anything under 6’4” and either criticizes the person or corrects them. Then if the person says he looks 6’4, he jumps on the bandwagon and tries to bring them into the argument with Christian and me. You can look below and tell exactly what I’m talking about
Canson said on 8/Jun/18
6’1” Will smith with Tyra Banks

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Utendahl with Tyra Banks. Tyra likely has heels on in the pic but they aren’t going to make her nearly 6’3” which is how tall she would have to be in order for Utendahl to “foolishly” be 6’5-6’6 as he would be close to 6’7” in dress shoes. He’s 6’3” like he’s listed Andrea. He wouldn’t have a reason to undercut his height by 2-3” like you are implying. You’re only saying that to make Boris taller

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Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 8/Jun/18
How about we all look at a photo that shows the ground before jumping to conclusions, without proceeding to childish name calling just because someone disagrees with your estimates (which aren’t facts proven with physical measurements barefoot), as to who is taller than Cam Newton and the 6’3” guy?

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Cam is standing with a footwear disadvantage, and he isn’t standing up anywhere near as straight a the other two are, with his head being further away from the camera on top of that. Cam Newton is easily looks more than an inch taller than Boris does as well just based off of the difference in eye level. Cam Newton would definitely be taller than the 6’3” guy as well, by at least 1.5” inches if there were no advantages. And it could be close to two inches. If the John guy’s 6’3” listings are off, then it would probably be by no more than 1/4” of an inch as sometimes Google will round the estimates down. Cam Newton was measured anyhow, so he’s if anything a more valid measuring stick than Tyra Banks is.
Canson said on 8/Jun/18
@Dream: yes and of course Andrea again is spouting off at the mouth because the picture doesn’t support his narrative and even went as far as to “say” that Utendahl is underlisted. It’s clear that Utendahl has a camera advantage on Cam in the first pic as he and Boris are both standing closer to it than Cam. But you know what they say common sense isn’t that common lol. Cam measured 6’5” even if it’s a morning height he’s still taller than Boris in the pics Christian posted that are better quality and Utendahl and Boris are around the same height in that pic.

Lol now you see who is the Virus here. It surely isn’t Christian or me
Canson said on 8/Jun/18
@Andrea: How seriously a poster like me should be taken? You’re the one who criticizes any picture where Boris looks under 6’4” and finds any excuse such as accusing someone of wearing lifts when Boris is shorter. Now you’re accusing Utendahl of downplaying his height or of him being underlisted? Really? Lol. You’re the one who nobody takes seriously. Cam is taller than Boris in the pic and is also taller than Utendahl in the 3rd pic. That is very obvious. Of course you make an excuse about any pic where Boris looks under 6’4”. A guy is not going to be listed at 6’3” when he’s 6’5/6’6 Andrea. That’s common sense. By the way Utendahl is closer to the camera than Cam which is why he looks taller in the one pic.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 8/Jun/18
John Utendahl does look easily over 6'3" with Cam Newton.
Andrea said on 7/Jun/18
Leaving aside the other huge amount of BS you wrote, that set you apart, and that don't even deserve an answer, once again you prove your dumbness, Canson. In fact, that John Utendahl guy does look noticeably taller than 6'3, no matter if he "is listed 6’3”". He does, in fact, look comfortably taller than Cam at the same event Click Here and completely towers a pretty tall woman like Tyra Banks, who very likely is in decent heels here Click Here So, although I should see more to be more sure about him, it is pretty clear he is well over 6'3, and very likely no less than 6'5-6'6.
You saying that he's 6'3 just because of a few random listings goes to show that you don't even know what you're talking about, and how seriously a poster like you should be taken. Again.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 5/Jun/18
@Canson Boris does look under 6’4” in the pictures you mentioned.

I would dare say David Hasselhoff would beat this guy out.

That’s me being nice about it.
Canson said on 3/Jun/18
Another pic with Boris and Utendahl where he again does not
Look 6’4”

Click Here
Canson said on 3/Jun/18
This is another instance where Boris does not look 6’4” but rather 6’3” max. The other guy in this picture (aside From Cam Newton), John Utendahl, is listed 6’3” and Boris is no taller than him. This along with the fact that he’s only listed on his site as 6’2.5. We don’t know for sure outside of the people who’ve claimed to meet him here but his 6’4” could very well be 6’4 in shoes or even 6’3.75 in shoes rounded up

Click Here
Canson said on 1/Jun/18
@Dream: I shouldn’t have responded either but since my name was mentioned in that last diatribe, I did. You’re right he can look 6’4” but does look 6’3” as well to be fair. Christian, in his defense, responds just like I do but also has a point when he brings up the pics where Boris looks 6’3 as Andrea has on more than one occasion said that“there are no pictures” even after they had been posted before and he acknowledged them before.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 1/Jun/18
Just drop it now. It’s getting out of hand.



@Andrea I can agree that most of the time, Boris is 6’4,” but you don’t have to prove it.

@Christian just please agree to disagree.


Just end the fued.
Canson said on 31/May/18
@Andrea: what do you mean with what you said about Christian and me in your last post how you crack up and it happens on almost every page? You flooded John Cena’s page and Sookie’s Den along with Marlon Wayans with the same garbage attacking either of us or both of us because of how we estimated. And if you look closely you started the argument on all three pages. So Half the stuff you say that either one of us does, you say or do. So if anything it just makes you a hypocrite. If you don’t agree with our estimates then that’s fine because we also don’t agree with you.

As far as your picture with Cam and Boris, it’s common sense. In Christian’s pic, Cam may be closer to the camera but it’s pretty obvious who is taller. Any of us can tell from looking at the pic that Christian posted of Boris and Cam that Cam is not only taller but that Boris has a footwear advantage. This is all despite him being closer to the camera. And better yet, I guarantee that if Cam appeared taller in your pic that you wouldn’t have even posted it. You would’ve completely disregarded it. There were a few other pics in that batch but you conveniently chose the one that supports your narrative of Boris being at or above 6’4”.
Andrea said on 30/May/18
The reason why I say something like "Boris looking taller than what you want him to be" is because you act like that. Look at what happened with Cam Newton. I did post a decent picture of Boris and him, and since you didn't like the way Boris shaped up next to him, you came out with a ridicolous excuse such as "the pic was taken from a distorted angle". What's even funnier is that you later posted a picture where Cam was standing closer to the camera, where Boris looks naturally shorter than he is (because of that), which is exactly what you want. Plus, you are the same guy that at the beginning of this discussion told me this: "You can keep on believing he's 6'4" until the end of time, but that won't change the fact that he's actually 190cm and has always been". So I have good reason for thinking something like that, and that also shows your arrogance in calling him being 190 a fact, LOL.
And no, I've never denied that he doesn't look over 6'3 in that SINGLE PICTURE with Jamie Foxx and Akon, but they are in fact the only two instances where he can look as low as that. Are you going to say that Boris isn't over 6'3 because of those two pictures, and simply disregard every other instance (a bit more than just a couple) where he looks at least 6'4? Go ahead. Although that's a pretty weak argument, you're perfectly entitled to say something like that. But again, according to that "logic", you could make a case for EVERY celebrity being an inch or over shorter than their listings because there will always be a few pictures where they can look shorter than they are, for one reason or another.
As for Michael Jai White, I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself, but he does have a huge camera advantage over Boris in that picture. He's standing a lot closer to the camera and the camera seems pretty low, which makes a huge difference, so I wonder how you can draw any conclusion from a picture like that. And you wonder why I say that you have no clue camera angles/positions/etc, LOL. And just because that's the only pic you could find of the two doesn't mean that you necessarily have to post it. You have no idea of how many pictures I have discarded because of that...
And I wouldn't crack up at what I said about you and Canson because that's the plain and sad truth. If you take a look at other pages (not only at this one), it is quite self-evident. Just like I wouldn't say that he held on his own, considering that, once you left, he had to gang up with a questionable poster like viper and even remarked more than once that he wished you came back, when he was in crisis... (How cute that was)
As for Rob, I've never used him for my own narrative. If anything, I used him against your own narrative, which is a bit different. You are the one who keeps speaking of Boris having some noticeable footwear advantage over Kobe, Boris looking no more than 6'3 next to the same Kobe or Boris looking 6'3 range in tons of instances as fact and even attacking me or calling me unreasonable because of not acknowledging something that, at the very most, is a very questionable opinion.
Canson said on 29/May/18
With Jamie Foxx he looks 6’2” range

Click Here

With Kobe or Cam Newton he looks 6’3” considering he has footwear advantages on both
berta said on 29/May/18
Interesting that mr saw him at little over 6 foot 3. I think mr is very good at guessing height. Boris could maybe be more in the 192 range? I personally think its either 192 or 193. But i have been vety wrong before :p
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 28/May/18
@Andrea

You have no room to crticize me when I said that you want Boris to be as tall as possible, when you said "Boris looking taller than what you want him to be", which implies that somehow I "want" Boris to be a certain height. First off, that's not true at all because I've said in the past that I wouldn't care if Boris turned out to be 6'4" if Rob meets him. I would just move on. And second, I acknowledge and am aware that he look 6'4" in some pics. So if I really wanted him to be 6'3", I wouldn't never said anything like that. But you on the other hand, deny that he ever looks 6'3" despite there are pics showing otherwise, so I actually hold more merit in my statement that you want Boris to be as tall as possible, than your statement that I want him to be a certain height.
And that pic with Michael Jai White wasn't taken as nearly as low as the pic with Cam, so it's really no comparison. And while Michael does stand closer to the camera, It's only about an inch of camera advantage over Boris, and that's the only pic I could find of the two. Common sense would tell you that Boris won't be looking 3.5" taller than Michael if the two stood at the same distance.
And I just cracked up when you said that Canson often recycles my words and arguments. It doesn't mean that he doesn't have a mind on his own, it's means that his mind just happens to be similar to mine on a lot of things. And if he supposedly can't think for himself and steals my words and arguments, then why is it that we disagree with each other occasionally? There are a few times that I disagreed with him on some stuff. And the fact that he held on his own while I was away from this site for a couple months, proves he has his own mind.
I'm not obsessed with Rob, but rather it's you. You're keeping using him for your own narrative and accuse me of calling him unreasonable, which I never said or even implied. And when I was mentioning about reasonability, I didn't mention anything about the Kobe pic, but pics in general. Rob thinks that Borks looks an inch shorter than Kobe in their pic, but he has said that he can understand that he looks closer to 6'3" at times. Just go back to 11/Sep/17 if you don't believe me. But apparently the word "pay attention" isn't in your vocabulary.
Andrea said on 28/May/18
Yep, I couldn't agree more, berta.
As for Boris, he basically always looks at least 6'4 with every celebrity he appears with. Although you can certainly say that something like 192 is not impossible next to Kobe (if he really is as low as his 6'4.75 listing), even that mark generally does seem too low for him. If he was as low as 192, that would mean that basically every celebrity that appeared with him should be downgraded by a visible amount (and some already should be, if he's only 6'4 flat). Let alone 6'3, which is pure madness.
For reference, here's Boris with:
1. 6'1.5 listed Boris Becker: Click Here Click Here Click Here
2. 6'0.5 (6'1 peak) listed Steve Harvey and 6' Tyson Beckford: Click Here With the same Steve Harvey, back in 1998 (so certainly still at his peak height, considering that he was only around 40 back then): Click Here
3. 6'5.5 listed Kevin Durand: Click Here Click Here
4. 6'1 listed Oded Fehr: Click Here Click Here
5. 6'6 listed Rick Fox: Click Here Click Here
6. 6' listed James Van Der Beek: Click Here
7. 6' listed Kim Coates: Click Here
8. 6'7.5 listed Magic Johnson: Click Here Click Here
9. 6'1 listed Brian J White: Click Here
10. 5'11 listed Wayne Brady: Click Here
11. 6'4 listed Henry Simmons: Click Here
12. 5'10.75 listed Tyrese Gibson: Click Here
13. 6'1.5-6'2 range AJ Calloway: Click Here The same AJ with Jared: Click Here
14. 5'9.25 listed Casper Van Dien: Click Here
15. 5'11-6' range Dr. Oz: Click Here
16. 6'0.5 listed Wentworth Miller: Click Here
17. 6'4 (6'4.5 peak) listed Dennis Haysbert: Click Here Click Here
18. 6'3 range Nigel Barker: Click Here
19. 6'3 range Jerome Boateng: Click Here
20. 6'3 1/8 MEASURED Damien Woody: Click Here
21. 196 listed Dustin Brown: Click Here The same Dustin with Andy Murray: Click Here Click Here
22. 6'4.5 listed Chi McBride: Click Here And Boris even seems to be in less footwear than Chi: Click Here Click Here With the same Chi, back in 2000s (when Chi was only just over 40, so I doubt he had already lost anything by then): Click Here
23. 6'0.5 listed John Cena: Click Here
24. 6'4.25 listed Tyler Perry: Click Here
25. 6'4.75 listed James Avery (in his late 50s): Click Here
26. 6'0.5 listed Marlon Wayans: Click Here Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 27/May/18
@Berta: he looks 6’4 at times then 6’2 range with someone like Jamie Foxx. Then 6’3” with Barkley or Cam or Kobe. It’s probably the pics but My opinion on him is 190-191. Mr R claimed to have met him and said he looks a little over 6’3” and Bobby3342 said 6’2.75. Looking at him next to Kobe I would say 6’3 tops being he has a footwear advantage on Kobe as well and is closer to the camera.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 27/May/18
I agree with berta. It's getting out of hand. We don't want a civil war or a civil justice about it, LOL!

Boris can look 193 cm.
berta said on 25/May/18
Guys just ignore eachother.this doesnt lead to anything. Back to height- i think boris is close to 193 range.
Andrea said on 19/May/18
Again, there's nothing wrong with that angle, Christian, apart from maybe Boris looking taller than what you want him to be... It's funny that you say that if Cam towered over Boris, you still would've called it out as a bad pic, when you are the same guy who posted a picture like this (and recently brought it up again) Click Here to prove that Boris isn't over 6'3, a picture where Boris is standing noticeably further away from the camera (that is also pretty low, so it makes a huge difference), LOL.
As for Canson, not only he agrees and likes every single post of yours, but he also very often recycles your words and arguments because he obviously isn't able to have a discussion on his own. And this has been clear from the very beginning of this endless (and equally useless) discussion.
And when did I accuse you of keeping bringing Rob up? If anything, you are the one who is obsessed about that and keeps accusing me of that. Speaking of Rob, you did say on John Cena's page that any reasonable person is going to acknowledge that there are tons of instances (such as Kobe's photo) where Boris looks 6'3, and you did call me unreasonable for not acknowledging that. All I said is that since even Rob disagrees about that and apparently doesn't acknowledge that, you're basically calling him unreasonable too. That's simple logic (a word that you probably have never heard, though)!
MJKoP said on 18/May/18
viper said on 1/Mar/18
Never thought of him as OJ. I thought somebody like Morris Chestnut would have been a way better choice to play OJ than Cuba.

I couldn't really picture him as OJ, either, until....


Click Here
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 17/May/18
@Andrea

How many times do I have to repeat myself? Your pic was relatively bad because it was shot from an upwards angle, not straight. It has nothing to do with whether who looks taller in that pic. If Cam towered over Boris, I still would've called it out as a bad pic. Once again, you're falsely accusing me of things I didn't do/think. So look at yourself in the mirror before labeling others of not "understanding sh*t".
And Canson agreeing and liking my posts doesn't mean that he can't think on his own nor he's seeking some sort of approval or validation. What's wrong with agreeing and liking someone's posts? That's like saying that because you liked someone's post on Facebook, it means that you don't have the mind and the ability to post on your own and you're seeking their approval. This is exactly how dumb you sound. But this is classic Andrea, with your screwed up logic.
And if you think that height differences are purely facts, then cut the crap and just tell me directly that my estimates are wrong, if you think I'm wrong. After 9 months of this heated discussion, you're too afraid to "hurt my feelings"? (Although there's nothing you can say to actually hurt my feelings)
And it's insane that you're accusing me of keep bringing Rob up, when you're the one who started this by first bringing up Rob on 7/May by saying:

"It is just your "opinion", Canson, that Boris has a footwear advantage over Kobe. Even Rob disagrees with you. Does that mean that he's saying that because it doesn't support his narrative too? LOL Sure, you can always say that it is just his opinion too, but there is a big difference between you and Rob. First of all, he objectively has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you, and second of all, he is not biased, unlike you."

And notice that nowhere did I mention anything about Rob from 24/Apr until you made that comment. And also you put words in my mouth (like you constantly do) by falsely accusing me of believeing that Rob's unreasonable, on John Cena's page. You're the one who's trying to instigate and also trying to use him as leverage against me, and because I'm explaining and defending myself, I'm the one who's "keep bringing it up and obsessed about it"? Wtf? It's obviously you who's doing just that.
Canson said on 16/May/18
@Andrea: “I have to praise others comments and it is cringeworthy”? Do I detect jealousy because I agree with Christian and not you?

That’s funny because I’ve seen you tell other posters who have estimated close to yours on this page and on Merriman’s that you not only agree with their estimates but also have tried to turn them against Viper or me by belittling us. That just speaks to your hypocrisy though and I am not making anything up or “lying” like you accuse me of because all of the posts are here (majority are on this page). Yes go ahead and continue to make up stuff or accuse me of doing things that you do. You just make yourself look worse each time
Editor Rob
Guys can we reel this conversation in a bit, thanks.
Canson said on 16/May/18
“Apart from the fact that he doesn’t agree with you which is something you can’t stand”

Oh really Andrea? Is that why you asked Rob to ban Viper? I doubt it has anything to do with his multiple usernames. That didn’t seem to bother you until he came out and said that Boris looked 6’3 and that Merriman looked 6’2. So anyone who doesn’t agree with you, you can’t stand and you even ask Rob to ban them? Sounds like when others don’t agree with you, you can’t stand them
Canson said on 16/May/18
@Andrea: I’ve never “run” to Christian for any reassurance or anyone else. There you go with your hypocrisy rearing its “ugly” face again. In case you didn’t know, me simply bringing a person’s name up isn’t seeking reassurance. Hell, if that’s the case, you do it in every post as you mention my name in almost every post to Christian. Hmmm?

And seeking reassurance is trying to “engage” other posters such as Tunman, Junior, Zampo, and others in our disagreement thinking that it is going to bolster your argument by having them gang up. Or by trying to solicit the same with Viper in an attempt to gang up on him. How about asking Rob how tall he thinks so and so looks in a picture or the height difference between or among a group? Or better yet, having to have Rob throw you a bone and resurrect Christian’s posts just to prove a point that has nothing to do with height. I don’t need to continue because you are fully aware just as well as I am of what you do. You think your sh*t doesn’t stink or that you have some type of birthright or ownership stake here at Celebheights. You seriously tried to use the guilt trip with Christian and me by telling us “So you don’t think Rob is. Reasonable guy” and then of course “Even Rob believes Boris doesn’t look 6’3” with Kobe? That’s what you call seeking assistance there by “name dropping” Rob in your dialogue thinking that it gives your weak argument any merit.

You just did it again by saying What you did to Christian because he doesn’t agree with Rob’s estimate on footwear. Well, as much as I respect Rob, we all know that he is human like we are. If he were perfect and free of flaws, he would list every celeb perfectly the first time and not have to make any adjustments later on. But you know that already. You threw that last line at Christian because “Rob saying he doesn’t look 6’3” supports your narrative and you are simply trying to play the guilt card via Rob Paul with Christian in getting him to agree with your assessment because “Rob says so”. You want to talk about sad and pathetic? That’s the definition of it right there, plain and simple
Canson said on 16/May/18
@Andrea: I’ve never “run” to Christian for any reassurance or anyone else. There you go with your hypocrisy rearing its “ugly” face again. In case you didn’t know, me simply bringing a person’s name up isn’t seeking reassurance. Hell, if that’s the case, you do it in every post as you mention my name in almost every post to Christian. Hmmm?

And seeking reassurance is trying to “engage” other posters such as Tunman, Junior, Zampo, and others in our disagreement thinking that it is going to bolster your argument by having them gang up. Or by trying to solicit the same with Viper in an attempt to gang up on him. How about asking Rob how tall he thinks so and so looks in a picture or the height difference between or among a group? Or better yet, having to have Rob throw you a bone and resurrect Christian’s posts just to prove a point that has nothing to do with height. I don’t need to continue because you are fully aware just as well as I am of what you do. You think your sh*t doesn’t stink or that you have some type of birthright or ownership stake here at Celebheights. You seriously tried to use the guilt trip with Christian and me by telling us “So you don’t think Rob is. Reasonable guy” and then of course “Even Rob believes Boris doesn’t look 6’3” with Kobe? That’s what you call seeking assistance there by “name dropping” Rob in your dialogue thinking that it gives your weak argument any merit.
Andrea said on 15/May/18
And yeah, Christian, you basically did say that Rob is wrong because you attacked me for saying that Boris' footwear isn't much different than Kobe's and that he doesn't look as low as 6'3 in those pictures, which is something that Rob said too...
Andrea said on 15/May/18
I still think that "height differences aren't an opinion, but a fact", Christian. In fact, I did say that you saying that Boris looks 6'3 in some pics is just your opinion, AT THE VERY MOST, otherwise I would have hurt your feelings.
And I do perfectly know what "running" means because I've seen Canson do it a lot with you... And although I'm Italian and English is not my native language, unlike you, I do understand a lot more things than you because there are certain things that go beyond the language itself and that you can't understand if you don't have a brain (like you have proved more than once).
As for Rob, I never denied asking him things either and I have already explained you why. And I don't really understand why you keep bringing it up and why you are so obsessed about that. Well, apart from the fact that he doesn't agree with you, which is something that you really can't stand, LOL.
Andrea said on 15/May/18
Yeah, Canson, go on making up bullsh*ts. You basically keep proving every single thing I've said about you... 😊
To be honest, I don't even blame you for that anymore. I just pity you. You are just a pathetic, broken man.
P.S. It's funny how you say that you don't need to run to others for reassurance, when you always have to bring up other posters in almost every comment of yours and praise other people's comments (especially Christian's) with cringeworthy statements such as "your last post was priceless", "well said", "agreed",etc. because you're obviously not able to have a discussion on your own and express your thoughts using your own words, which is certainly not surprising, considering that you have the dialectical and speaking skills of a 10 years old kid (on good days), LOL.
Andrea said on 15/May/18
Christian, my pic of Boris and Cam is at "bad angle" just because you don't like the way Boris shapes up next to Cam. That's very simple! The other photo you posted, on the other hand, is better just because Cam is closer to the camera and Boris looks shorter than he is, which is exactly what you want.
And again, I didn't accuse you of creating multiple usernames. Although I certainly don't think highly of you, to be honest, I don't think you would do something like that. The reason why I said "people" is because all those people I've mentioned (free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc.) are one person alone, namely viper. You may be right, though. You don't misunderstand... You just don't understand sh*t!
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 14/May/18
@Canson

Wow, thanks! Your 12/May comment was just as good!
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 13/May/18
@Andrea

I didn't say that Rob's wrong, he just has his opinions and I have mine. But just because he's measured many types of shoes and ran this site for 13 years, it doesn't mean that he has more objective knowledge about footwear and heights than anyone else in the world. And if Boris looking 6'3" in some pics is just my opinion, why did you say before that "height differences aren't an opinion, but a fact" on Ray Fisher's page? See, you just contradicted yourself once again.
And if your definition of "run" is defending someone that you agree with, or mentioning someone's name, then you're totally wrong. "Running" is essentially going to someone to ask something from them or do you a favor. But I don't think I have to waste my time pulling up the dictionary definition this time because you're clearly too dumb to get it. But I'm gonna go a bit lenient on you because you're Italian so English may not be your native language.
I know I've asked Rob a few times how tall he thinks someone is in the past, but you can't call me a hypocrite because I never denied doing it. But I've never done it in the middle of a debate with someone in order to attempt to disprove their arguments (like you do, and that's the issue I have with you regarding this topic), and I've never done it regarding Boris. I've never asked Rob how tall does he think Boris is in a pic, but you've done it many times.
And "hyperbole" is based on exaggeration, and exaggeration means: "to enlarge or increase especially beyond the normal". Saying that you'd actually have no problem if Boris turns out to be 6'3", then making a "hyperbole" that you'll never come back to the site out of embarrassment if turns out to be 6'3", is a direct contradiction, and not an exaggeration. It would be an exaggeration if you said that you'll actually be angry, sad, embarrassed or shocked, but saying that you'd have no problem is not an exaggeration, but a contradiction. So either you made an excuse, or you lied.
Canson said on 13/May/18
@Andrea: please show me where I “constantly” run to Christian for anything. You can’t. However, I can show where you constantly seek reassurance or validation from other posters and Rob on other pages however. You’ve done it on Cena’s page, Boris’s, Wayne brady’s, Tyler Perry’s, and Haysbert’s. But again, that only applies to you because you need all of the reassurance and support that you can get because you need self validation. Much of this has to do with you as a person and a poster as you constantly try to belittle Christian and me as well as Viper and Rampage to name a few. You know that if your estimate turned out to be incorrect, that you will look even stupider and more buffoonish than you already do, which you practically admitted when you said that you would be not Return to the site out of embarrassment if Boris turned out to be under 6’4”. But you dismiss it as hyperbole?

You want to talk about making things personal. Of course you called Christian and me boyfriends, saying I have “a deformed head and that says a lot”, telling us that we can’t estimate height (which is your opinion and we can say the same about you as well), that we aren’t “good” with telling Camera tricks, telling me I need to go back to school instead of being on this site. So if anything, you are a hypocrite. You point out what both of us do just to deflect the attention off of you. And you are also “playing the ambulance card” here with that and telling Christian that he started it by saying that “You just want to make Boris as tall as possible” So really, stop while you are behind making comments about us making things personal or playing the persecution card, or pointing out things that you do and accuse us of.

You say it’s cringeworthy that Christian and I agree on everything. It sounds to me like you have a problem with it because we agree with each other and not you. Thus, you have nobody to back you on your ridiculous and hypocritical comments you make to us. But I feel bad for you because you really do need the help a lot more than either of us does. And I can tell that that bothers you because you even brought up Viper and me connecting on Twitter below. That eats away at you doesn’t it? But the better question is, if you hate Viper so much and ridicule him the way that you do, constantly bringing him up here when he hasn’t even been actively posting on this page let alone this site, then why are you keeping tabs on his Twitter account? Nobody that hates someone or talks badly about someone the way you do Viper would keep up with his daily activity on Twitter. And you say that he or I have miserable or bad lives? Sounds to me like you are paranoid and think or even know people are talking about you so you go looking for an anticipating it. You wouldn’t have to do that if you weren’t the person that you are or didn’t say or do the things that you do here. LMFAO! That’s funny that you even know about the activity on his account being you clearly don’t like him. Sounds to me like you have the problem, not he or I or Christian. And I brought this up because you brought it up to me below like it was supposed to be an attack on my character when really you were “playing the ambulance card” and it really bothered you that that happened.

So to sum you up, you are a hypocrite, you feel that you are entitled here on this site, and you get very combative and personal with people when they disagree with you. I mean why would you try to “expose or show what’s Christian or I do here” when it has nothing to do with Boris’s height? You bring up all of the things you say that we do yet you have already done them or you turn right around and do them. You tell us “just because you believe that Boris looks 6’3” doesn’t mean it’s a fact. Well, just because you think Boris looks 192 with Kobe doesn’t make it a fact either. Just because you believe that Boris looks 4” taller than Cena doesn’t make it a fact either. Rob has the difference in height at 3.5” here but you only “name drop” Rob or try to exploit him in the argument with us when it is convenient for you. “Even Rob doesn’t think he looks 6’3 with Kobe”. “So are you saying that Rob isn’t a reasonable guy”? Sounds to me like you are guilting us into changing our estimates out of fear of not disappointing Rob. Last I checked, Rob encourages different viewpoints. That is very strange that he, the owner of this site has that view but you, a wanna be owner of the site who lives his life vicariously through Celebheights only thinks that his opinion matters here.

Hmmm.. maybe that’s why you ran to Rob to get Shredder back on the site despite Rob having made his mind up, or “suggesting that Rob ban Viper” as a result of what Rob said he did. You don’t like Viper because he puts you in your place and does not agree with you or “bow” down to you. That’s the real issue. You only like people who support you. Last but not least, you said that you would “Put pressure on Rob to downgrade other celebs” if Boris were really 6’3 in person? That sounds to me like you “believe” in your head that you “hold leverage” over Rob LOL!!! And if you’re really telling Christian and me that we don’t think Rob is reasonable, which both of us have said we respect Rob, your statements show clearly that you believe that you wield power and influence over Rob. That is sad! But that explains a lot about you.
Canson said on 12/May/18
@Christian: your last post was priceless! It was spot on!!! Especially the last paragraph. That may be the best post that I have ever seen on this site in the entire time I’ve been here!
Canson said on 12/May/18
@Andrea: accusing you of what I do? You just accused me of running to others for reassurance. I have never once done that on this site. You have, however, done it just for Boris Khodjoe alone, on this page, Haysbert’s, Tyler Perry’s, Chi McBride’s, etc. you even ran to Rob here to have him retrieve comments that Christian made to you IN Retaliation to your behavior against him, which have no bearing on how tall Boris is or isn’t. Would you like me to go and retrieve all of that and post it here? It is very clear especially on Tyler Perry’s page as it’s within the last few comments on that page. You have several just within the last 10 there all of which are you seeking some type of opinion that Boris (not Perry) is a certain height. So I really don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re running in circles now making accusations about both of us just because you have no other defense. Maybe if you stop insulting both of us, we will do the same and just get back to a discussion about Boris’s height. That doesn’t seem likely however because you expect both of us to accept your estimates and bow down to you.

As far as personal “insults” against others, that’s clearly you continuing to make them against both Christian and me, as well as Viper. Once again, Viper is not even actively posting at this stage and you are still attacking him about his multiple usernames and his estimates and even making accusations against him that he “votes” before he goes to bed and purposely makes Boris shorter. Funny that You didn’t mention any of that when he guessed Boris as being 6’4, but reverted to attacking him when he guessed him at 6’3”. You also attacked Bennett along the way as well as Mr R and Bobby3342 for their estimates. I mean it’s all here on this page. As far as Mr. R, as soon as he mentioned that Boris was a little over 6’3”, you called his estimates and his estimating questionable to Christian.

As far as Moe, he started the argument. I’ve already pointed this out. It was on 23 March 2016. I hadn’t made any attacks on him before that. It was simply retaliation. When someone calls Bobby3342 and me “short losers”, I don’t see why we are not allowed to retaliate. But of course you do not mention that part about him starting the argument because it doesn’t support your narrative. As far as Thereel, I crossed the line admittedly but because he attacked S.J.H. and was speaking nonsense about Kobe’s sexual assault charge that have nothing to do with his height. He mentioned that’s why he believed he was downplaying his height an inch. That’s just ridiculous. But if you want to talk about making things personal, you did the same with Rampage and Viper in addition to both Christian and me. you know, the people who call you on your bullsh*t? So you really have no room to talk. As far as I’m concerned, Christian, Rampage, and Viper are all stand up dudes unlike you. And i agree with what Christian said, I feel sorry for both of your parents because they failed raising you or you just didn’t turn out right. Funny how you took that from what Christian just said in his last post and turned it around on me. You did the same with me just now to in regards to Moe in regards To my employment. I’ve mentioned before my job so I don’t need to again especially when you’re being childish now. You cannot even come up with your own stuff. You’ve used what Christian or I have said on several different occasions now and turned it around on both of us.

Do you really want to talk about spamming this site? You went in late December here on this page, and retrieved old quotes from arguments I’ve had with others. They were not the first comments there on either page either. You really had to look for them and you did so just to try to attack me. It had nothing to do with the discussion about Boris’s height. In addition, you began attacking me on Cena’s page once again because I do not agree with you or you don’t agree with me. I had not even mentioned your name there. You just jumped in for no reason knowing it was going to lead to another never ending argument. So that is what you call spamming. But That is the exact same thing that you are accusing me of. I wasn’t even paying you any mind prior to that so if anything you spammed this page and Cena’s with needless arguments just because you are angry that Christian and I don’t “bow down to you”. You act as if you’re entitled and the entire community is supposed to bow down to you.

“You’re going to put a lot of pressure on Rob to downgrade people if Boris doesn’t turn out 6’4”. Since When did Rob retire and make you the owner of Celebheights? That is by far the saddest comment I’ve seen here on this site. You think that Rob is supposed to listen to you? Why? You are no different than any other poster here?

Do you really want to go there with prostituting? You not only insulted Christian and me both repeatedly telling us that we “have no clue about this or that” or are “unable to accurately assess heights” and even called us “Boyfriends”. So yes the prostituting was retaliation to you doing all of that. Do you think “Boyfriends” is not derogatory? It sounds so to me that you were trying to offend us with that?

So really Andrea, this is not getting old. This is ancient.Just cut the crap. Every time you make an accusation against us, especially when it’s false or hypocritical, we just call you on it. It’s even worse that what you accuse both of us of, you do yourself
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 12/May/18
@Andrea

Your pic with Boris and Cam is at a bad angle because it's taken upwards instead of straight ahead, unlike mine.
And as I said, you accused me of creating multiple usernames indirectly and subtly. Otherwise you wouldn't have put quotations around the word "people", indicating that I, Canson, and the other people you mentioned created multiple usernames and voted. And yes, I voted 6'3" once but I didn't hide behind any fake names and voted. And one 6'3" vote out of 41 votes is gonna barely affect the Average Guess. I'm not misunderstanding anything here.
Canson said on 11/May/18
This is another picture with Boris and 6’1” Barry Bonds. The pic isn’t perfect nor are many of the ones here but that’s not a 3” difference regardless

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Canson said on 11/May/18
@Christian: well said! With my head, I have a crown on the top of it that is very pointed like Charles Barkley’s. If that portion is raised, I would be a tad taller. This is when I tilt my chin down a touch and the top of it raises. The only reason I could tell is I have a light fixture in my place that is 6’6.5ish I believe and I was in boots one morning when I first woke up and the crown grazed it whereas if my head is lined up properly I don’t touch it even in the boots first thing out of bed when I measure 195.7-.8 barefoot. The boots probably put me up near the mark but if my head is tilted down a tad maybe higher. I have long neck though and it’s not as sturdy as it should be given broad shoulders and the rest of the muscle I have throughout my body
Andrea said on 11/May/18
The reason why I'm "basically regurgitating the same talking points I made towards Canson, to you" is because you two are not much different. And that must be the reason why you get along so well with each other. And the fact that Rob measured many shoes must mean something. Sure, he may be wrong, but you act as if he IS wrong when you say that Boris has a clear footwear advantage over Kobe. If anything, you have a lot more chance of being wrong than him for the reasons I have already stated. The same goes for Boris looking 6'3 in many pics. That is just your opinion, at the very most, but you keep speaking of it as if it was a fact and you even accuse me of not acknowledging that, just because I don't agree with you.
As for Canson, he constantly runs to you. Not only on this page. And again, I don't know why you are so obsessed about that, but what's wrong with asking Rob his opinion about height differences and celebrities' heights? First of all, he's the top man in this field, whether you like it or not. He's been running a height site for over 13 years and he objectively has more knowledge about it than anybody else, so his opinion means something. And, unlike someone else, he's not biased. Second of all, everybody constantly asks him questions. Every day. Why do you think is that? I don't think it's because they need consensus or people agreeing with them. Besides the fact that, once again, you're hypocrite, considering that I've seen you asking Rob similar questions in the past. Plus, since you compare that with the cringeworthy relationship you have with Canson, see how many times I've mentioned Rob compared to the number of times Canson mentioned you...
As for measuring taller when you tilt your head down, I've never said that it is impossible, but I said that it is impossible UNLESS you have a deformed head, so, once again, learn to read. You're right. Maybe Canson has a deformed head, who knows? That could certainly explain a lot of things. The point is, though, that not only he said that, but he also said that Boris looked taller than he is in a certain pic just because he was tilting his head down, which is BS.
And yeah. As I said, I'd have no problem with Boris being as low as 6'3. At all. I'd have a problem with every other celebrity he has appeared with, though, because that would mean that they are nowhere near their listings. It is not that hard to understand, although everything suddenly becomes a contradiction (or an excuse) whenever you don't understand something (and that happens very often, I'm wondering why). Btw, you really impressed me with "semantics". Where did you get it from? From your beloved "Merriam Webster dictionary"? 😊
Andrea said on 11/May/18
Funny (and very cringeworthy) how you keep accusing me of every single thing you're clearly guilty of, Canson. I don't know if you do it on purpose or if you really believe in what you say. I really hope, for you, that it's the former case, otherwise your brain deficiencies are even worse than what I thought, LOL. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if even those brilliant and personal insults you pointed at those people that disagreed with you, they actually have something to do with you and your life alone. You probably really are an unemployed good-for-nothing loser (which is what you accused moe of), which would certainly explain why you have so much free time to spend spamming this site with your BSs, you probably really need to regularly visit a therapist (which is what you told TheReel to do), although I suggest you to find a new one because there are obviously still no results, you or someone in your family probably really had to prostitute themselves (which is what you accused me of), etc.
Canson said on 11/May/18
I did vote him at or below 6’3” as well. I used to think below but now I give him a full 6’3
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 11/May/18
@Andrea

You're just basically regurgitating the same talking points you made towards Canson, to me. Again, please provide statistics that Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than me or Canson. And making up fake numbers like when Rob has a 50% chance of being wrong, I have 90%, and saying that Rob measured many kinds of footwear and uploaded videos, don't prove anything. Btw, I'm not disparaging Rob in any way, IMO he's a great height guesser. Also, I'm not biased. If I really was, I would've purposefully exaggerated or diminished the height differences in pics in order to make Boris 6'3". But I don't do that. I'm fully aware that Boris looks 6'4" in many pics. But there are many pics where he looks 6'3" as well. But I don't see you ever acknowledging that. Instead, you always say that the lowest Boris can look is 192cm, which is far from the truth. And you even accused celebs of wearing lifts or standing on their tip toes when Boris looked under 6'4". So if anyone's biased, it's you.
And when the heck did Canson ever run to me for anything? Sure, he's defended me many times throughout this discussion as well as others because he agrees with a lot of my estimates, but that's not the same as you asking Rob how tall someone is or the height differences between people, which you've done many times. Canson has never done that to me.
And how do you know that Canson doesn't measure taller when he tilts down his head? Have you ever met him and seen him measure in person? Everyone has different head shapes and structures. Just because you don't measure taller when you tilt your head, it doesn't mean it's the case for everyone. I tried it myself, and I didn't measure any taller either, but I don't go around saying Canson's wrong, because I realize that maybe he has a different head shape and structure than mine. In case you haven't noticed it already, the world doesn't revolve around you, Andrea.
And even if you said "never come back" and not "run away", you basically meant the same thing. You're using semantics. Also, you're making excuses by dismissing it as a hyperbole? Well I can't say I'm surprised. And you can't say that you won't have a problem with it if Rob meets Boris and lists him as 6'3", then turn around and pressure Rob to drastically downgrade every celeb both he and Boris stood along with. You'll obviously have a problem with it if you're gonna pressure Rob to do that. I don't think I've ever seen anyone so full of contradictions like you, both online and in real life.
Andrea said on 10/May/18
How the hell did you post "a much better, more accurate pic" than I did, Christian? LOL As I said, you did post a picture where Cam is clearly closer to the camera than Boris, in order to make Boris appear shorter than he is. And exactly as I said, although you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc., you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives. Like you keep doing there, when you say that it is a bad angle, when there's really nothing bad about it. Sure, you cannot see their footwear (which is something I remarked when I first posted the picture) and the ground level, but again, you can see the footwear they're wearing from the other photos of the event, which hadn't been published yet when I posted the picture, and the ground level... Well, it's taken in the same place. Plus, it's clearly an indoor place, so even if there weren't other pics of them together, you could certainly tell the ground is very likely flat.
And no, for the last time, I didn't accuse you and Canson of submitting multiple low votes. Not even indirectly. Come on, read it again. It's not that hard:
"I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. 😉"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. 😊"
As I said, my accusations were levelled against one poster alone. And that's viper, in case you still haven't figured it out (and you probably haven't, considering how stupid you seem to be). And all I said was that it would be interesting to see who really guessed Boris at 6'3 (or lower), apart from viper with his countless number of "fake names/accounts" (which are in fact "free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc."), you and Canson. The only reason why I mentioned you and Canson is because I was sure that you both voted him at 6'3 or under. And in fact, you did, by your own admission. So yeah, you did misunderstand and jump to conclusions AGAIN.
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Andrea: “Because you and Canson say he had a footwear advantage doesn’t make it a fact”.

You’re absolutely right Andrea because anyone can be wrong. So then if that’s the case, why don’t you stop telling us “Boris is only 3cm shorter than kobe, not 1.5-2”. Don’t forget Boris is closer to the camera. Or that Cena has better posture than Boris etc. something is only a fact when it comes out of your mouth but when Christian or I say it, it’s “speculation” or our opinions. This just magnified your hypocrisy here.
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Andrea: do you mean that you would ask Rob to downgrade a lot of people? And if he says no then leave him alone about it. what does “I would put a lot of pressure on Rob to downgrade mean”? Again, this is not your site. Don’t get why you feel so “entitled”. You don’t see anyone else here making those ridiculous statement like you hold leverage on Rob or something
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Andrea: no you did not. You continued to attack VIPER on both this page and Merriman’s. Would you like me to go and retrieve the entire conversation? That’s both conversations here and on Shawne Merriman’s page. And below, you clearly started the argument with him by bashing him. Oh and all of the bashing didn’t begin until after he said that Boris (to him) was 6’3”. Prior to that, you were saying “well Even Viper who downgrades everyone says Boris looks 6’4”. As soon as that changed, and he revised his estimate, you have now changed your tune and began to go in on him too. If you don’t believe me, go back to October of last year. Otherwise, I will gladly retrieve where it began and how you went in on him for no reason. He, wisely, didn’t even respond back to you for at least a few weeks either. I can retrieve like you say, Since you love to try to think you are throwing your weight around “threatening” Christian and I with that all of the time. Only problem is you have no weight to throw around and nothing to even show for or to even think you’re entitled. You act like this is your site or like you have some type of entitlement to it or some type of stake in ownership. You don’t. You represent 1% of the posters here and your opinion is your opinion but that does not mean we all have to bow down to you just because Rob has met a celeb or two and changed his estimate to what you had them before he met them. By the way, Viper clearly stopped responding to you as he even knows that you are worthless. You act like a spoiled entitled child like you have some type of birthright or stake in this site when you mean jacksh*t. Nobody cares about you. Btw when Christian was gone I didn’t need anyone to defend me because I can clearly do it myself. Did you mean defend myself against you? That isn’t very hard. I just point out your hypocrisy as it runs rampant on this page and on this site. Nobody here takes you seriously.

And show me who I ran to please. As for you, you did so on Haysbert’s page, Chi McBride’s page, and on this page. You clearly asked other posters does he not look this with Boris? Would you like me to retrieve these too? And it’s funny because you are the one that sits here and brags about the fact that “historical” posts now exist. That also means your bullsh*t is as well. You know the quotes that you make and the actions you take that you accuse Christian and me of hoping that neither of us will go and retrieve it. You know the stuff that you figure that nobody sees. How you like to run to Rob for reassurance every so often. And no you never saw me do that or even solicit other posters like you did, so don’t accuse me of that. You are seriously a waste of time to even talk to. Viper did the right thing ignoring you before and it seems I should have because you have again begun another endless argument just because I don’t agree with you on your assessment with Boris. That’s what it boils down to. It doesn’t matter what Christian or I post, as long as it is not in agreement with your views you have something negative to say in response. I’m done responding to you because it obviously gets us nowhere. All we are doing is flooding the page with useless comments and it appears to me that you not only like to start arguments with people who don’t agree with you here but also you must get the last word in. Stuff you accuse me of that you are doing. If you want to accuse me of something, you need not have done or currently do the same thing. Otherwise, that makes you a hypocrite which you are the definition of.
Andrea said on 10/May/18
I've never said that just because Rob said that Boris' shoes aren't much different than Kobe's makes it a fact, Christian. Learn to read, ffs, and stop putting words in my mouth. I said that just because you and Canson keep saying that Boris has a clear footwear advantage over Kobe doesn't make it a fact, which is a bit different. And that's because you keep talking about it as if it was fact, which is NOT. And again, although you're certainly entitled to say the same thing about Rob, there's a big difference between you and Rob because 1) Rob objectively has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you and 2) he is not biased, unlike you. So if Rob has say a 50% chance of being wrong, you have 90%+ chance of being wrong. And the reason why I say that Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you is because he has measured many kind of them, and he even uploaded many videos to show how much they actually give, when he still had the Sneakers' page. It's not that hard to understand (well at least for a guy with an average IQ)...
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Christian: Well said! And that’s correct. Rob is a great guy and I value his opinions. But that’s how Andrea is. If what Rob says supports his narrative then he will include “Well even Rob says”, but bad he not said that, it would’ve just been “Well that’s your opinion” or if Andrea knew it for a fact, he would simply ignore the picture altogether and not mention it which is what he does with all pics where Boris looks under 6’4. You notice how he doesn’t mention the one about Barkley at all? He only says well with Kobe he can look 192cm?
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 9/May/18
@Andrea

Like I said, that pic was the most accurate one I could find, and it's certainly better than yours. Yours didn't show footwear and ground level, while mine did. Also yours was taken from a bad angle, while mine was taken straight ahead. The only thing in my pic was that Cam was standing a bit closer to the camera than Boris, giving Cam some advantage. But his footwear, posture and stance disadvantages trump over his camera advantage, giving him an overall disadvantage over Boris.
It's funny how I'm supposedly the one who's bad at gauging height differences, camera angles, footwear etc., yet I posted a much better, more accurate pic than you did.
And yes you did accuse Canson and I of submitting multiple low votes. Pay attention to what you wrote:

" I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. 😉"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. 😊"

You didn't say directly that Canson and I did it, but you said it indirectly. Also, you put quotation marks around the word "people", so basically you're accusing us of creating fake names in order to submit multiple votes, which I didn't do btw. I can't speak for Canson, but I doubt he would do such a thing either. I didn't "misunderstand" or "jump to conclusions", I know exactly what you're doing. Also, be original and make your own sentence structures instead of stealing mine. And this isn't the first time you did this. But I don't expect anything good out of you because you've already shown your stupidity a long time ago.
Andrea said on 9/May/18
That's exactly what you do, Canson. Running to people. You did it with Christian, throughout all this discussion, and then with a very questionable poster like viper, when Christian was away and couldn't defend you. And no, Rob never said that "he doesn’t know about the footwear". I'll copy and paste what he said to refresh your memory: "Footwear...I know Kobe has under inch, but the style Boris has isn't much different than what converse are designed like. I doubt there is much between their sneakers.". Of course he doesn't say he's 100% sure about that because he's not an arrogant c*nt like you are. And who cares if you wore canvas shoes. First of all, are Boris' shoes the same model you wore? And second of all, you are the same guy who says that if you tilt your head down, you're going to measure taller, which is scientifically impossible unless you have a deformed head, so I'd take what you say with a large pinch of salt.
As for the Average Guess, I have never submitted a single vote in my life because I really don't believe in that for the reasons I have already stated and to me it means nothing, so I don't see why I should secretly submit 6'4+ votes, but you're free to believe so. I don't really care. Though if I ever decided to do something like that you can be sure that 1) the Average Guess would be exactly as much as I want it to be and 2) I certainly wouldn't be so stupid to submit one vote after another to make it increase as fast as possible and get busted by Rob, unlike someone else. 😉
As for viper (not that I'm really changing the subject), if anything, I am the one who decided to stop talking and ignoring (both of) you. And I certainly am not the one who adds people on Twitter to keep talking behind other people's backs, which is something that only sad people with a sad life would do. You're right about one thing, though. viper hasn't been that active recently. I'm really wondering why. 😊 Btw, have you noticed that the number of votes stopped increasing since his departure? 😲 That being said, do not despair. I'm sure he will come back sooner or later, with one of his many fantasy names, unless he already has of course...
As for me saying that if Boris ever turned to be as low as 6'3, I would never come back on here on here out of the embarassment, and not "Run away from this site out of embarrassment and disappointment" (the quotation marks are used to quote someone's exact words, so at least make sure that I really said something like that before using them, mind you)... I don't know why you're so obsessed about that, but that's just a figure of speech. A hyperbole, to be exact. But again, I don't expect an ignorant guy like you to even know what I'm talking about. And the reason why I said something like that is because I have certainly seen enough to rule out 6'3... BUT if Rob ever met him and said that he isn't over 6'3, I would have no problem with it. Although I would put a lot of pressure on Rob to drastically downgrade every celebrity that appeared with Boris because that would mean that they are nowhere near their current listings, and to review the listings of those people that he has met because that would mean that he has overestimated them by a good amount too. 😉
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 9/May/18
@Andrea

Just because Rob says that Boris didn't have much footwear advantage over Kobe, it doesn't make it true. Also, how do you know if Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than Canson? Do you have any statistics to prove it? (which is impossible) Or are you just saying that because Rob's the owner of this site? He's not a perfect height-god like you describe him to be. For example, you should know first hand that he isn't because you "challenged" Rob's initial 6'2.75" lisiting for David Morrissey as 6'2", and he eventually lowered his listing to 6'2", especially after meeting him in person. And you've also admitted to have disagreed with several of Rob's listings for celebs as well and they've turned out to be in your favor when Rob met them. But all of a sudden, because Rob agrees with you about the footwear difference between Boris and Kobe, you have this "Well Rob agrees with me so it must be automatically true" mindset. I'm sure Rob doesn't like it when people use him to push their narrative. That's exactly what you're doing right now.
And estimating shoe differences are harder than heights because some shoes give more or less height than it looks on the outside. I have a pair of sneakers that looks as if it gives about 1.25" but is acutally only .75", a pair of casuals that looks .5" but actually gives 7/8", and a pair of runners that looks 1" but gives .75"
Editor Rob
I used to have the Sneakers page on here, and have looked at a lot of of them over the years, although there is always room for error in estimates if you haven't measured a specific model.

I've had to look and measure a lot of them so I can try to be reasonable especially with celebrities I've seen.
Canson said on 9/May/18
@Tunman: yea for Barkley he claimed 6’4 6’4.5 or 6’4.75 or 6’5. the measurement at the 92 Olympics was 6’4 5/8. Not sure when that measurement was (time of day) but I’ll be fair and say he was also on the heavy side back then so not sure how much height he lost in a day. I do believe he measured 6’4.75 as well and that he would easily clear 6’5 out of bed. A lot of teammates such as Joe Klein and Moses Malone have called him 6’4 and then other teammates such as Ainge And Mo Cheeks called him 6’4 1/2 or 6’4/6’5 while Dan majerle said he’s “maybe 6’5”, probably 6’4”. I can almost rule out a flat 6’4 or even a hair over with that but 6’4.5 at a low is possible meaning closer to 6’5 (6’4.5-6’5) for the entire morning possibly.

As for Boris, he can look 6’2 range with Jaime Foxx and 6’3 at other times. Then at times he can look 6’3.5 or 6’4, even perhaps over. But like you said not all pictures are good. Looking at him with Charles Barkley and Kobe Bryant and Cam newton, 3 guys who are closer to their listed heights here (all within maybe 1/4” at peak), he looks 6’3”. While Kobe and Cam look probably 195ish today, Barkley at his age looks closer to 6’4” at times than 6’5” which wouldn’t surprise me considering he’s also had hip replacement
Andrea said on 9/May/18
Haysbert I think could be closer to 6'3 today, maybe 6'3.5, but he certainly can't be 6'4 if Boris himself is tall as that as he does look comfortably taller than him. But yeah, Boris can certainly look over 6'4 at times if certain celebrities are really as tall as listed. Just to give one (of the many possible) example(s), I still have hard time to believe that a guy like Tyler Perry is even a mm taller than Boris: Click Here Now, it is true that we can't see their footwear in that scene, but even giving Tyler the benefit of doubt that he has say half an inch less footwear (and I doubt it can be more than that, considering that if you look at his other scenes in the movie he's wearing slippers that won't give much less than 2 cms) still doesn't explain how Boris looks "so much" taller than him. I mean, if anything, their listings should be reversed...
That being said, 192-3 is certainly within the realms of possibility for Boris, but overall I would say that he could be anywhere around 6'4, be it a fraction over or under (which is certainly harder to say). But 6'3? That's a big joke.
Andrea said on 8/May/18
I wouldn't have because Cam's stance is completely different than Kobe's, but I don't expect you to understand something like that, Christian.
And as expected, you called camera angles/positions/etc. an excuse because you don't even know what I'm talking about, which is funny, considering that you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives. Like you did there. It's funny that you complain about that picture when you posted a pic like this: Click Here A picture where Cam is clearly closer to the camera, in order to make Boris shorter than he is. If that doesn't expose your hypocrisy, I don't know what it does.
And there you go again, misunderstanding things and jumping to conclusions. I've NEVER said that you and Canson submitted multiple and/or lowest possible votes. Are you able to read, at least a little? My accusations were actually levelled against one poster alone. And although I have no proof of what I'm saying, I'm pretty sure about that. Just like I was pretty sure about that argument we had about Ray Fisher's page, even if I had no proof (before Rob retrieved all the older comments). Btw, didn't your parents ever tell you not to tell lies as a child? 😊
P.S. Canson, you are so dumb, LOL.
Canson said on 8/May/18
@Andrea: nope. I will never spam Emojiis like a teenage girl like you do just because you think that you are making someone look bad in front of others which is what you do. But that shouldn’t surprise me because you aren’t very mature seeing as how Viper and I both completely stopped talking to you and Viper even ignoring you and you still continue to attack us. I guess we made a huge enough impression on you though. And for you to say that I wouldn’t believe Rob if he met him, if he does look it with Rob then I would accept it. On the other hand, you would “Run away from this site out of embarrassment and disappointment” if he wound up only being 6’3”. That’s childish there but I wouldn’t expect anything less from you. Same with your excuses and crap like you like to call others on. I can see you “accusing Rob of wearing lifts” with Khodjoe just like you did with Jamie Foxx as an excuse. Or it would be that Rob made a mistake by underestimating him or something was wrong with the picture. These are all things that you have done so please don’t sit here and accuse me of the same bullsh*t you do
Canson said on 8/May/18
@Andrea: you just validated what Christian and I said about you having to run to Rob and solicit his opinion. To his credit, Rob doesn’t know about the footwear. He didn’t say that there is no advantage. He admitted that he didn’t know. And Christian and I have both owned canvas shoes and other sneakers. Not to mention he and I aren’t the only ones that have said that Boris has a footwear advantage in the picture. However, we all know if They were to switch shoes, that Kobe would “have a footwear advantage” according to you and it would be a fact. And Of course it’s “my opinion” when it does not support your narrative but a “fact” when it does which is why nobody here takes anything you say seriously. You just act entitled and everyone is just supposed to agree with and bow down to you.

@Christian: yep. that’s what Andrea does. He makes statements like that. I said the same that he could be submitting the 6’4+ votes as well. Funny part is he mentions Viper is “quite active on this page”. That’s odd because Andrea not only has far more activity than Viper, but Viper has not even been that active on Celebheights recently let alone this page. He was more active on Merriman’s page than here.
Tunman said on 8/May/18
He could even look over 6'4 with someone like Haysbert.As for Barkley,well,he could often look a solid 6'5 or even over but I just rule it out.I mean the dude claimed 6'4 though he's obviously rounding down.Did also claim 6'4 5/8 and 6'4.75" which is much more likely.Could it be after a game?maybe or maybe not.The same could be said of Kobe.Just some humble guys like Padalecki(whom Rob met and said was no more than 6'4 compared to McPartlin).Think of Kilborn,Momoa,or Parrack.
On the same way take a Nathan Fillion and dudes like Will Smith or even Matthew Fox,again I would bet the former would edge the two others if Rob ever meets them.
Back to Boris 192-3 is the most reasonable guesses.Must say there is still some situations like with Tyson Beckford where he looks 6'4 tops but possibly slightly under.Again pics aren't always reliable but I feel he could have decent posture at times
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 7/May/18
@Andrea

At least I appreciate that you finally acknowledged the fact that Cam isn't gaining any height from his knee. If I didn't mention the fact that Alfie Allen's stance was different than that of Cam's or Kobe's, you would've probably gone the "Cam was gaining height by going up on one foot" route, like you tried to do with Kobe.
And as expected, you once again complained about camera angles/positions, footwear and ground level. It's funny to see that you're so strict on camera angles/positions, footwear and ground level when you posted a pic like this Click Here This exposes your hypocrisy and also proves that you tried to use that pic to make Boris as tall as, if not taller than Cam.
And if you accuse me and Canson and others of submitting the lowest possible votes, I could easily turn around and say that you submit the highest ones. I never voted 6'2". I did vote 6'3" once because that's how tall I see him as. And maybe there are visitors that just see Boris as being shorter than 6'4" so they voted based on how tall they think he his, have you ever thought that? Don't accuse people of doing something which you have no proof of. Didn't your parents ever tell you that as a child? LOL
Canson said on 7/May/18
@Andrea: Michael Jordan is taller than Boris Khodjoe. Sure the pic isn’t the best but look at how Boris stacks up to Kobe and Barkley. So why is the pic with Rick Fox any better than this one when we can all clearly tell Fox isn’t standing straight? Whether you want to admit it or not, he isn’t. And Both Kobe and Chuck are similar in height at their peak. Barkley measured 6’4 5/8 and Kobe was measured 6’4 3/4. There is a better chance that Barkley is not as tall as he was at his peak being 55 years old today and in the physical condition he is in such as being obese and having had a hip replacement. If you watch the way that he walks, you could tell. Even if you argue that Jordan is 195cm (He was measured 6’4.5 when he was drafted), that still puts Boris at 6’3”, which is just how he looks with Kobe or Barkley. However, knowing you, you will do anything to diminish the height difference. Of course you not only make an excuse about Kobe’s stance but also that Boris does not have a footwear advantage when it is a fact that he does. Just because you either are not aware of footwear differences or are just playing dumb because you don’t want to admit that Boris can look a solid 6’3” as opposed to 6’4 does not mean that the footwear difference doesn’t exist. You are the first one to say that to Christian or me “Just because you aren’t aware of camera angles etc” yet when someone says it to you, you ignore it and respond back about something else that you “accuse them of doing”. You don’t want to admit when you are wrong. And no 6’3.5 is not the lowest that one could argue. That’s the lowest that you could argue for him. You represent probably 1% of the population on this site so your opinion is not the only one obviously. So nothing you say is a fact. And like Christian said, I also acknowledge that there are photos of Boris looking 6’4” as I’ve also gone on record to say that his height looks all over the place. However, because you are very sensitive about Boris’s height and get very defensive when someone says he looks under 6’4, you will probably turn this around like you always do.
Andrea said on 7/May/18
It is just your "opinion", Canson, that Boris has a footwear advantage over Kobe. Even Rob disagrees with you. Does that mean that he's saying that because it doesn't support his narrative too? LOL Sure, you can always say that it is just his opinion too, but there is a big difference between you and Rob. First of all, he objectively has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you, and second of all, he is not biased, unlike you.
As for Rick Fox, first of all, Rick is obviously losing much more height in that picture compared to the other one. If Rick is standing straight there, like you try to say, then he's busting a gut in the other one, LOL. And second of all, Rob met that guy, Zachary Levi, more than once and said that he looked around 6'3. For a guy who seems to base most of his estimates on ALLEGED meetings of people that you don't even know how good are at estimating heights (LOL at you quoting random people from Reddit as some kind of proof), it is a bit surprising to ignore something like that, especially considering that in this case 1) you can be 100% sure that Rob met him because there's even a picture and 2) Rob is very good at gauging height in person. But again, as I said, you also cherry-pick those kind of estimates, so it's not really that surprising. You are so delusional (and biased) that I'm starting to think that if Rob ever met Boris and said that he really looks 6'4 in person, you'd still insist that he's nothing over 6'3, LOL.
And don't worry. I've never got (and I'll certainly never get) angry at you. If anything, I laugh at you and your ignorance (which is truly cringeworthy for a 36 years old man, like you claim to be)!
Canson said on 7/May/18
@Andrea: why do you make statements and accusations like that? Stating that we submit multiple votes? If people do, then they do. I can say the same thing when the avg guess rises. I could easily say that you submit multiple times but I realize that there are others here other than just you. In addition, you come across as a know it all the way you talk to Berta, Christian, and me. I’m going to take a page out of your book and say “Just because you say that Boris is 6’4” does not mean that he is”. That’s your opinion just like you say that it’s my opinion that Boris doesn’t have a footwear advantage on Kobe. However, that is a fact. He does have a clear footwear advantage on him. A canvas shoe is not going to add a full inch in height to anyone whereas the shoes that Boris had in the picture do add about 3 cm just like a pair of Jordan’s. Kobe’s wife Vanessa stated on the twitter page that he’s 6’4.75 barefoot and with a 1.25” sneaker he would be 6’6”. Boris’s shoes are no less than that and could be up to 1.5” as some sneaker add that much. In the picture with Cam Newton, Boris also has a footwear advantage and it is more than just 1/4”. Cam’s shoes add less than 1” to him whereas Boris has a dress shoe on. That’s at minimum a full cm difference.

As far as Kobe’s measurement, how is that any more prone to error than Cam’s? You’ve seen Rob say that errors often occur with large data sets haven’t you? So someone could read out 5113 (like the example he posted) and be 5111. Not to mention there is very little difference between 6’4.75 and 6’5 in terms of appearance. Let’s say if Boris were a strong 6’3 guy. He could be 6’4” out of bed and measure 6’3.25 at a low and have just measured in the AM. My guess is that he’s 1/4” less and to your last post, yes I do believe he looks 6’3”. As I mentioned before Fox is clearly not standing straight. I bet had that been reversed and if Boris were the one not standing straight or if there were some other issue with the picture, you would not say that. If Boris looked several inches shorter than Fox as opposed to 1.5 or 2”, you would’ve completely disregarded the picture all together or you would be preaching to us that “Boris is not standing straight, etc”
Canson said on 7/May/18
@Andrea: why do you make statements and accusations like that? Stating that we submit multiple votes? If people do, then they do. I can say the same thing when the avg guess rises. I could easily say that you submit multiple times but I realize that there are others here other than just you. In addition, you come across as a know it all the way you talk to Berta, Christian, and me. I’m going to take a page out of your book and say “Just because you say that Boris is 6’4” does not mean that he is”. That’s your opinion just like you say that it’s my opinion that Boris doesn’t have a footwear advantage on Kobe. However, that is a fact. He does have a clear footwear advantage on him. A canvas shoe is not going to add a full inch in height to anyone whereas the shoes that Boris had in the picture do add about 3 cm just like a pair of Jordan’s. Kobe’s wife Vanessa stated on the twitter page that he’s 6’4.75 barefoot and with a 1.25” sneaker he would be 6’6”. Boris’s shoes are no less than that and could be up to 1.5” as some sneaker add that much. In the picture with Cam Newton, Boris also has a footwear advantage and it is more than just 1/4”. Cam’s shoes add less than 1” to him whereas Boris has a dress shoe on. That’s at minimum a full cm difference.
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Christian: Jordan also has a 6’4 1/2 measurement. But I agree with you
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Andrea: there is no proof That he is a full 6’3 and you can obviously tell that Fox is standing straight in this pic vs the one with Khodjoe
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Christian: well said! It’s the opposite of “it would make Rick Fox 6’4.5, or Dennis Haysbert 6’2” etc. you know the poor pics that we have to agree with Andrea on or else he will get angry
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Andrea: he had a footwear advantage with Kobe as well. Of course you won’t admit that. But that doesn’t surprise me. IT DOESNT SUPPORT YOUR NARRATIVE. And just because you say he doesn’t have the advantage doesn’t make it fact. Yes you are getting old


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Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 5/May/18
@Tunman

That's more than a full inch of difference between Boris and Barkley. It's a solid 1.5" if not 1.75"
Andrea said on 5/May/18
"Average Guess means nothing, berta. And this is one of the many cases that prove it. Also, remember that viper is quite active on this page... I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. 😉"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. 😊
Editor Rob
Unfortunately I can't, I decided not long ago to alter it so that the aggregate vote is retained, but individual votes are not...so nobody will ever find out what people voted.
Andrea said on 5/May/18
Well, Tunman, it also depends on how tall Barkley really is as he can often look over 6'5...
I can't completely rule out something like 192, but he generally does look taller than that, and more of a genuine 6'4 than the majority of celebrities listed at the same mark (or over) here!

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