How tall is Boris Kodjoe - Page 2

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6ft 3.36in (191.4cm)
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 30/Oct/18
@Canson

That's true, Boris did have some footwear advantage over Brady. But still, overall Boris looked taller than Davis. I believe if you measure them, they'll be very similar in height, but Boris looked taller in the clip.
Canson said on 27/Oct/18
@Christian: at different points, it could look different. I also noticed Brady has similar footwear (at least it appears) as Davis whereas Boris had a footwear advantage on Wayne Brady
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 24/Oct/18
@Canson

Boris looked somewhat taller Click Here
Canson said on 24/Oct/18
Some people need to be taught common sense as well
Andrea said on 23/Oct/18
Some people should really be taught the basics of height gauging, LOL.
Canson said on 22/Oct/18
@Christian: yep and we could have 20 pics. 10 are horrendous 5 bad and 5 good. Even if the former 15 show a 6’3.5 or 6’4 Merriman or Boris the other 5 may show 6’2 or 6’2.5. Just because there are more occurrences doesn’t mean that they are good pics
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 21/Oct/18
@Canson

Same thing with Merriman. Some people will say that Merriman's 6'3.5" because he looks it "more" often in pics than 6'2.5"
Canson said on 20/Oct/18
@Christian: would you say that Davis looks the same way next to Wayne Brady as Boris did? To me they do

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Andrea said on 19/Oct/18
I think the difference between them looks very close to 7 inches, Tunman, so assuming that Casper is 5'9.25 (which certainly seems very honest and believable next to Rob), Boris doesn't look any less than 6'4 with him, IMO.
Now, while I agree that 192 range isn't impossible, I am quite confident that if Rob ever meets him, he wouldn't give him any less than 6'4, considering that there are many celebrities that he has met and that he lists at the full 6'4, even if they could potentially measure closer to 6'3.5 than 6'4 (IMO), such as Jason Momoa (though I think that Boris would be easily taller than Momoa, and very similar to someone like Jared Padalecki, who I think is more of a solid 6'4).
As for Tom, his new listing isn't that surprising and I myself did say that I'd expect him to be anywhere around 6'2.5, just before Rob met him. Though I understand why many people thought he was a genuine 6'3 because he could certainly pull off looking that tall on Smallville, but again, he was often in big boots, which certainly gave him a decent advantage over the majority of his costars and made him look much closer to 6'3 than 6'2.5. In Boris' case, I think that anywhere around 6'4 is possible for him, which means that I wouldn't rule out a fraction over either, and in fact I think he has much more chance of measuring over 6'4 than many celebrities listed at 6'4+, such as Tyler Perry, who in fact looked (comfortably) shorter than him in that movie they did together: Click Here
Canson said on 19/Oct/18
@Tunman: but if you look at the pic with Kobe, Boris has a slight footwear advantage with him and is closer to the camera and still looks max 6’3”.
Canson said on 18/Oct/18
@Christian: that’s correct and it becomes a “quantitative” argument as always. Just because there are “more” pics of Boris looking 6’4” than 6’3” despite the fact that some pics are inferior to others.
Tunman said on 18/Oct/18
Hmmm,I could be wrong but if you stop at 0:27 with Casper I would have thought a solid 16cm difference perhaps 16,5 if his head is very close to 10" but maybe not quite 17.I feel there's still a chance he's 6'3.5-3.75" but no less for sure.
Casper is the textbook of how a 5'9.25" should look as Rob said,which is also his claim.It's just too bad Rob doesn't meet every celeb listed.I bet many may turn a little shorter in person(I'm speaking of 0.25"or 0.5"tops).Just think about Tom Welling whom many argued was a strong 6'3.
In the end I can go with the 193 listing for Boris but 192 is just as possible imo.
Andrea said on 17/Oct/18
To be honest, I think Rick is more of a weak 6'6, Tunman, but nonetheless, even if Rick is say 6'5.5, I don't think Boris looks any less than 6'4 with him, both in this photo Click Here and, even more so, in this video Click Here .
That being said, I can see how 6'3.5 doesn't seem impossible with Kobe and Barkley (if they really are as low as 6'4.75), but apart from them, he basically always looks (at least) a solid 6'4 with everybody else (more than the majority of celebrities listed at 6'4 or even over on here), including people that Rob has met (so whose heights are pretty much confirmed), such as Kim Coates Click Here , Casper Van Dien Click Here and Wentworth Miller Click Here .
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 16/Oct/18
@Tunman

Sure, he looks 6'4" in a lot of pics, but can also look 6'3" in many others as well.
Canson said on 15/Oct/18
@Tunman: I can agree 6’4 looks low for Kobe. I couldn’t buy less than 6’4.5 but 6’4.75 looks more accurate. Boris looks 6’3” with Kobe however and Barkley
Tunman said on 15/Oct/18
To be fair he looks every bit of 6'4 and even over if Rick Fox is the full 6'6.Now if we except some BB players (Barkley,Kobe,Magic)with whom he can look 6'3.5" I think 6'4 is very honest.In fact 6'3.5"isn't impossible assuming many people listed here look shorter than their listing next to Kobe.So taking off 0.5" from their height isn't out of question.Either this or Kobe has to be 6'5+ but then why downplaying himself and insist he's only 6'4 (6'5 with shoes)
Canson said on 18/Sep/18
@Viper: lol I wouldn’t say “even Stevie wonder could see it” because Boris is not a clear cut case. But he doesn’t look proportionately 6’4 either when he even has long legs. More importantly, Andrea is right that in some pics he can appear 6’4 or even 6’5. Hell in one looked 6’6-6’7 but that’s an outlier. He can also look 6’2” at times.
Andrea said on 16/Sep/18
LOL, again, whatever helps you sleep at night, viper. 😊
Canson said on 15/Sep/18
To be fair Andrea, comments are all over the place here. Some say 6’2 some 6’3 some 6’4. It’s all about how each individual views Boris. I wouldn’t make a bold statement like Viper made because I’ve never met Boris but my opinion is also that he’s somewhere around 6’3”. Of course it’s an opinion because I’ve never met him
viper said on 13/Sep/18
Your projection is tiring. Anyway, yes, I think he should be downgraded to what the average is. Sorry you are the only poster who thinks he's 6-4. Even Stevie Wonder can see he isnt
Andrea said on 11/Sep/18
If he really could, I wonder why he still hasn't, my troll friend...
And even if the majority of people saw Boris at 6'3 like you say (which is certainly not the case if you take a look at all the comments), I don't see what that would prove. The pics out there certainly speak for themselves (unless you are biased or a troll downgrader, which you certainly are).
viper said on 10/Sep/18
Let me put it in this context. If I had a chance to win 500 million dollars to just answer is Boris at least 6-3 or is he actually under it, I would have to say he's at least 6-3. Then If the question was is he 6-4, I would say no he's under it.

That's where you get your true convictions from with that kind of money on the line lol.
viper said on 9/Sep/18
I said Rob can back me up I didn't rig Boris' average.

Sorry the majority see Boris at 6-3
Canson said on 6/Sep/18
This is getting old accusing Viper of rigging average guesses with no proof.
Andrea said on 6/Sep/18
Yeah, I bet you didn't, viper. 😉
viper said on 4/Sep/18
I haven't messed with the average guess on Boris. Try again sweetheart. Rob can back me up on that.
Andrea said on 3/Sep/18
You said it right, Christian. That's just how YOU see it.
Canson said on 3/Sep/18
@Christian: I think it’s more of how Andrea has assessed other celebs as to how he comes to his estimates which is fair because I’ve done that as well. Rob as well has done it and it shows when guys like Khodjoe and Merriman are still overlisted. Same with Derek Theler. This is referring to the 6’3.5 being possibly low due to how he stacks up with others. But a lot of the basis for a 6’4” Khodjoe estimate uses questionable pics. There are better pics where he doesn’t look 6’4 (more 6’3) as well or at very worst, the pics are no worse than those where he looks 6’4”.
Andrea said on 2/Sep/18
"viper said on 30/Aug/18
A downgrade to the average guess.
So 6-3.25"
Hmm, I really wonder why the "Average" Guess is so low... 😊
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 1/Sep/18
@Andrea

You don't seem to respect Junior's 6'3.5" estimate for Boris. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's just how I see it.
viper said on 30/Aug/18
A downgrade to the average guess.
So 6-3.25
Canson said on 27/Aug/18
@Dream: I think 6’3 but even 6’3.5 is better than 6’4 for him. That would be a good start imho
Dream(5'9.5") said on 26/Aug/18
Rob, I would say a slight downgrade to 6’3.75” would be better.
Andrea said on 25/Aug/18
As I have already said, Junior, while I don't 100% rule out something like 6'3.5 (which, btw, I've never seen him claiming, and which is certainly the absolute lowest I can see him at), if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity he appeared with needs a major downgrade (and some already do, if he's only 6'4 flat), including those ones who got measured (such as Damien Woody) and those ones who Rob has met (such as Kim Coates, Casper Van Dien, Wentworth Miller and Rick Fox)...
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 23/Aug/18
@Andrea One thing for sure he can measure 6'4 certain time of the day in the morning. 6'3 1/2 is more he look and he once claim it. I wouldn't argue below 6'3 1/4 but he don't look 6'4.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 6/Aug/18
@Canson @Andrea

I think we need to stop the argument. I don't care what anyone thinks of others like. If we can just let it go, then that's good enough. Look, I should have not said the stuff in that way. I apologize for being uncivilized. Now, can we please drop the argument? We're still on good terms, no doubt. It's just the argument is getting out of hand.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 4/Aug/18
Just drop the argument. I don't care if I wasn't asked to play peacemaker.

I think this site has had enough of it.
Canson said on 1/Aug/18
@Dream: I think the real issue here as you see with the “threat” 😂 below “Just a friendly heads up”, that Andrea thinks he is both entitled here and that he is not going to receive any type of reprimand or consequences from Rob for what he says. I mean, Come on! 😂. He has also gone on to say “I’d have to put pressure on Rob to downgrade a lot of celebs” if Khodjoe were only 6’3”. Anyone who uses those types of words clearly thinks that they’re entitled or that he is Rob’s pet. This also shows when Christian and I received the responses to our posts when we retaliated against Andrea but very seldom did Andrea receive one. Now I have a ton of respect for Rob and it may have been because our posts were sharper than his “cutting more” in retaliation to the stuff we received, but it clearly sent the message to Andrea and to make him think that he is the “teacher’s pet” and that he is untouchable here on this site. I mean you see just how many people have intervened just since this began a year ago and every single one that has truly intervened has made comments along the same lines as the ones that you and Celebheights 6’1.5 made earlier this Summer
Andrea said on 30/Jul/18
"We get triggered. Cry me a river."??? Wtf are you even talking about, Dream? 😂😂😂
As you can see, I did try to drop the argument, but certain people on here clearly have a hard time doing the same, and they regularly have to run their mouth and come out with new BS and childish remarks because that's probably all they can do...
P.S. Just a friendly heads-up, Dream. If you want to play the peacemaker (which is something nobody asked you to do, btw), at least act like one, and do not take anyone's side... 😉
Dream(5'9.5") said on 28/Jul/18
Jesus Christ, can we stop the argument now?

How many times has this went on. Can we stop it, please? Don't tell Rob or anyone, 'NANANANANANA!' Just have a more civil discussion.

@Canson and @Christian are right. No one has a problem believing one believing Boris to be 6'4".

@Andrea Can we please not bring it up again? We get triggered. I get it. It's not like we're writing a twenty page essay over something. This feud isn't going anywhere.

@Viper Let's just agree to disagree. Everyone different point of views.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 28/Jul/18
Jesus Christ, can we stop the argument now?

How many times has this went on. Can we stop it, please? Don't tell Rob or anyone, 'NANANANANANA!' Just have a more civil discussion.

@Canson and @Christian are right. No one has a problem believing one believing Boris to be 6'4".

@Andrea Can we please not bring it up again? We get triggered. Cry me a river. It's not like we're writing a twenty page essay over something.
Andrea said on 22/Jul/18
LOL, cool story, Christian. Too bad that's exactly what you've been doing from the very beginning of the whole discussion, and what you often do whenever people on here don't buy your sh*t and dare to disagree with you. Seriously, can you be more hypocrite than this? LMFAO
Canson said on 22/Jul/18
@Viper: 6’2” isn’t an unreasonable estimate for Welling. He would measure somewhere in the 6’2” range.

@Andrea and Viper: As far as one of you bringing up and the other having to explain the past estimates and transgressions, you don’t need to do that. So what. It’s in the past, focus on the now
viper said on 21/Jul/18
At least I changed my mind on Jared and think he's 6-4 now. More than I can say for you.

Still undecided on Tom Welling. Don't think he's just 6-1 anymore, but don't think he's more than 6-2 either
Canson said on 21/Jul/18
@Christian: exactly! And that last response back to Viper is further proof of it.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 19/Jul/18
@Canson

I agree. I don't have an issue with Andrea believing Kodjoe's 6'4", as he's fully entitled to his opinions. What's sad about him though is that he has to use childish tactics and remarks just because he didn't agree with us.
Andrea said on 16/Jul/18
Well, viper, considering that you said a similar thing to those people who rightfully believed that Jared was a 6'4 guy, you saying something like that is just another confirmation that Boris isn't less than 6'4. See, your "estimates" aren't that bad after all... If you remember to add 1.5-2 inches to the majority of them, of course!
And if you want to talk about sad stuff, why don't we talk about the fact that you needed to use a countless number of "fake names/accounts" to comment on here in the last years, clearly to cover your identity and fuc*ed up reputation (and even to agree with yourself, LOL at that), and the fact that you got busted trying to lowball many Average Guesses with different IPs and names? Now, that's very sad indeed.
Canson said on 15/Jul/18
@Viper: I don’t think he is 6’4” but Andrea is entitled to his opinion that he is if we are entitled to ours that he’s 6’3”. Dissuading on our part is no better than him doing that to be honest
Canson said on 15/Jul/18
@Junior: 6’3” is just as possible as 6’3.5
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 13/Jul/18
Boris atually ever claim 6'3 1/2 and was listed it for a long time before Rob leave him at 6'4. He might be 6'3 1/2 not as low as 6'3.
viper said on 12/Jul/18
Does Andrea still think he's 6-4? Sad
Canson said on 10/Jul/18
@Junior: possible he was maybe 6’0.25 and claimed shoes like other celebs and is 5’11.5 today. I wonder how tall Nephew Tommy actually is. That’s his nephew, Tommy Miles
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 8/Jul/18
Steve Harvey really start to look as short as 5'11 1/2.
Canson said on 30/Jun/18
Agreed Viper. Today He is peak he was over
viper said on 30/Jun/18
IMO Steve Harvey is under 6-0.
Canson said on 24/Jun/18
Comparing Steve Harvey to Boris and also to Snoop Dogg and Charles Barkley, it’s clear that Barkley and Snoop are both taller, Snoop isn’t even 6’4 himself

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Andrea said on 20/Jun/18
As far as I know, there isn't any picture of him and Chris together, MAD SAM, but I certainly would expect at least an inch between them...
This is not a direct comparison, but here's Boris and Chris with the same guy (Brian J. White, who is listed here at 6'1), with whom there's certainly a significant difference: Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 20/Jun/18
@Mad Sam: that’s a lot better than 6’4 I’d say. He could be 191 imho but no higher from how he looks with Kobe
Canson said on 19/Jun/18
I think being objective here we can see that there are pics where Boris looks over 6’4 like Christian pointed out then a solid 6’4. However, on that same token, there are pics where he looks 6’3 or even in a couple a little less
MAD SAM said on 19/Jun/18
You guys have been arguing forever .... anyway he looks slightly taller to 190-190.5 cm Chris Hemsworth (0.5-1 cm) which brings his height to 191-192 cm range
Andrea said on 18/Jun/18
LOL, good one, Christian.
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 15/Jun/18
@Andrea

Lol, relax. Don't try to start an argument with Dream. I'm sure he looked at the whole discussion from the very beginning. It's clear who started this argument, it's you. The reason I haven't posted in this page in a while is because I'm taking a break from this feud.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 15/Jun/18
@Andrea I don't care who started it. As long as it ends, it's fine. It's not impossible to move on.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 14/Jun/18
@Canson

Oh yeah!

I trust you and @Christian can easily move on and not carry on this feud.



@Andrea It's not impossible to move on. We just have different opinions. At the end of the day, that's what makes this site fun. No one physically threatened to go to your house and find your address. (That would be different story.) Some of us just has a disagreement. That's all. Calling names is common, and we shouldn't let that get to our heads.


@Celebheights 6'1.5" Agreed. Actually, would you mind commenting on other celebrity pages I've been debating on? (There is Bo Burnham, and Canson, Christian, Junior, myself, and Rob all agreed he's a solid 6'5" guy. There's Ben Barrington who Junior, Rampage, and myself believe he's over 6'4".)
Andrea said on 14/Jun/18
Dream, I suggest you to get your facts straight and take a look at the WHOLE discussion (which started almost an year ago on Idris' page, and spread over a countless number of pages, other than this one), before bestowing judgement...
As for Boris, to be fair, I've never completely ruled out something like 6'3.5 (the absolute lowest I can see him at), but if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity he appeared with needs a major downgrade (and some already do, if he's only 6'4 flat), including those ones who got measured and those ones who Rob has met...
Canson said on 14/Jun/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5 and Rob; yea I’m gonna stop myself because I don’t want to be banned. Just funny the lame excuses “it’s impossible to move on” when he’s attacking both of our posts that don’t even refer to Andrea whatsoever. It’s almost like if Christian or I post any evidence we get into this lately
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 14/Jun/18
Rob, which would you say is more likely? 6’3 3/4” or 6’4 1/4”?
Editor Rob
I'd give the possibility of 3.75 more than 4.25
Canson said on 13/Jun/18
@Dream and Rob: while you know my stance that he can look 6’3” often, I do agree that 6’3.5 certainly looks a lot better than 6’4” as that would be highly unlikely based on Kobe and Barkley and Jordan and Cam. 6’3.5 is high imho but more believable than 6’4”.
Canson said on 13/Jun/18
@Dream: I respect you a lot as a poster. And yea we may not agree on all but a lot of your estimates are very good ones.
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 13/Jun/18
@Dream I agree with that. This website is meant to be a fun place for everyone to spread their height knowledge, opinions and backgrounds to each other on celebrities. Is it really worth getting banned just to try and prove point that most people may or may not agree on? Rob did mention that “he will intervene after being lenient”, so I’d be very careful, Canson and Christian.
Editor Rob
Well, even people who step over the line aren't always permanently gone. Viper may well return if he agrees to the rules.
Andrea said on 13/Jun/18
Even considering Cam's footwear disadvantage and posture, that John Utendahl guy does look comfortably taller than him, Dream. So if John really was as low as 6'3, Cam would be no more than 6'2-6'3, and we all know it's impossible as he was measured at 6'5 at one point.
Anyway, for me this discussion could have ended months ago, as it is pretty clear that it leads nowhere, but everytime I try to get out of it, or Christian or Canson always come out with new BS and/or allegations, so it's basically impossible to move on.
As for your 6'3.875 estimate for Boris, it is certainly within the realms of possibility, although I wouldn't give him any less than the current 6'4 listing, as he generally looks more of a genuine 6'4 than the majority of celebrities listed at the same mark (or over) here. I'd say that mark (6'3.875) for Boris is as likely as 6'0.125 for Henry Cavill, certainly quite possible, but probably slightly too low overall... 😊
Editor Rob
Can you guys now just agree to disagree. I can see both points of view, though I still edge toward Boris closer to 6ft 4 than 3...
Dream(5'9.5") said on 12/Jun/18
@Andrea

That's enough. Cam is wearing less footwear, and he's leaning.

Also, Christian and Canson didn't do anything wrong. They only pointed out what needs to be heard.

Enough. I suggest we all agree to disagree. You have your opinion, and Christian and Canson has their opinion.

Can we please end the feud before Rob shuts this website down? We don't want a civil war about it.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 12/Jun/18
@Andrea

That's enough. Cam is wearing less footwear, and he's leaning.

Also, Christian and Canson didn't do anything wrong. They only pointed out what needs to be heard.

Enough. I suggest we all agree to disagree. You have your opinion, and Christian and Canson has their opinion.

Can we please end the feud?
Canson said on 12/Jun/18
@Andrea: sorry but just because somethings don’t “support” your narratives doesn’t mean that they are nonsense. You aren’t the only person who matters on this site lol. But it’s ok. You “implying that Jamie Foxx” wears lifts or accusing someone of standing on top toes, or telling Christian that Boris doesn’t look 6’3” next to Dirk Nowitzki and others when he clearly does shows how seriously you should be taken as a poster.

Either way you look at it regardless of what Utendahl is, Cam who measured 6’5” in the morning, likely at best 195 at a low still has a clear advantage on Boris and Boris has the footwear advantage. I’ll leave the door open for 191cm like Celebbeights 6’1.5 said but either way that’s closer to 6’3 than 6’4”.
Dream(5'9.5 said on 12/Jun/18
Rob, how likely is 6'3.875" for Boris?

I'm prepared to get so much hate from 'you know who.'
Editor Rob
There's a good possibility of anywhere over 6ft 3.5 to 4 range. I'd say from all I've seen a better chance of that, than 6ft 3 flat.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 12/Jun/18
@Canson I wouldn't call Utendahl 6'4", but I don't think he's under 6'3" either.

That is true too! I mean while Boris's listing is ok, he could look under it. Some times, I just don't get him. Sure, I used to do that, but It's silly. I think S.J.H. knows well compared to most people (including myself here).

You and Christian have good guesses. There are things and listings we do agree with (especially Bo Burnham, Kobe Bryant, Armie Hammer being a little under his listing), but we have some disagreements too.

At the end of the day, I would say just drop it. If Andrea is going to argue with us, then let him. We have better things to do than argue which listing is better.
Andrea said on 11/Jun/18
LOL at all those spamming and non-sense comments, Canson. But again, that's the exact reaction I expect from a brainless guy like you...
As for that John Utendahl guy, he clearly is taller than Cam, even if you give Cam the benefit of doubt that he has 0.5 inches less footwear than him (and I certainly doubt there's more than that): Click Here Click Here So if Cam himself is near enough 6'5 (or just under), that guy can't be under 6'5 and may, in fact, well be over.
Like I said, "you saying that he's 6'3 just because of a few random listings goes to show that you don't even know what you're talking about, and how seriously a poster like you should be taken. Again." 😊
Canson said on 11/Jun/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5: after seeing the pics a bit more Utendahl is taller than Boris. He may be underlisted a bit but looking at Cam in the pic I agree with everything you said that he’s taller than BK. Btw, great analysis with what you said earlier! I can see exactly what you’re saying that BK May be 6’3 1/8 or 1/4 while Cam 195ish. I don’t think Utendahl is 6’6 or anything like that but maybe 6’4 or so is possible
Canson said on 11/Jun/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5: after seeing the pics a bit more Utendahl is taller than Boris. He may be underlisted a bit but looking at Cam in the pic I agree with everything you said that he’s taller than BK. Btw, great analysis with what you said earlier! I can see exactly what you’re saying that BK May be 6’3 1/8 or 1/4 while Cam 195ish. I don’t think Utendahl is 6’6 or anything like that but maybe 6’4 is possible
Canson said on 9/Jun/18
@Dream: Utendahl has a footwear on Cam but I agree proportionately he does look taller and does look taller than his 6’3” listing. I wouldn’t hesitate to give him half inch over this. However, in this pic, Cam’s eye level is higher than his. Cam doesn’t look to be standing straight either, at least in my opinion. Even in the pic Cam looks taller than Boris, as well. Cam, having been measured in the morning at 6’5, would likely not be that later in the day. I would put him more like 195 perhaps even a touch less than 195 since they’re very early AM these days. See a comparison of 2006 numbers for example. Either way, say if the Businessman is in fact overlisted, Boris doesn’t look 6’4 with either one of them.

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At least you’re a respectable poster and don’t go around trying to belittle people like Andrea does with comments like “Dumbness” especially when none of those posts have anything to do with him. I didn’t even mention his name in either of the previous posts. He gets insulted anytime someone says Boris looks anything under 6’4” and either criticizes the person or corrects them. Then if the person says he looks 6’4, he jumps on the bandwagon and tries to bring them into the argument with Christian and me. You can look below and tell exactly what I’m talking about
Canson said on 8/Jun/18
6’1” Will smith with Tyra Banks

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Utendahl with Tyra Banks. Tyra likely has heels on in the pic but they aren’t going to make her nearly 6’3” which is how tall she would have to be in order for Utendahl to “foolishly” be 6’5-6’6 as he would be close to 6’7” in dress shoes. He’s 6’3” like he’s listed Andrea. He wouldn’t have a reason to undercut his height by 2-3” like you are implying. You’re only saying that to make Boris taller

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Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 8/Jun/18
How about we all look at a photo that shows the ground before jumping to conclusions, without proceeding to childish name calling just because someone disagrees with your estimates (which aren’t facts proven with physical measurements barefoot), as to who is taller than Cam Newton and the 6’3” guy?

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Cam is standing with a footwear disadvantage, and he isn’t standing up anywhere near as straight a the other two are, with his head being further away from the camera on top of that. Cam Newton is easily looks more than an inch taller than Boris does as well just based off of the difference in eye level. Cam Newton would definitely be taller than the 6’3” guy as well, by at least 1.5” inches if there were no advantages. And it could be close to two inches. If the John guy’s 6’3” listings are off, then it would probably be by no more than 1/4” of an inch as sometimes Google will round the estimates down. Cam Newton was measured anyhow, so he’s if anything a more valid measuring stick than Tyra Banks is.
Canson said on 8/Jun/18
@Dream: yes and of course Andrea again is spouting off at the mouth because the picture doesn’t support his narrative and even went as far as to “say” that Utendahl is underlisted. It’s clear that Utendahl has a camera advantage on Cam in the first pic as he and Boris are both standing closer to it than Cam. But you know what they say common sense isn’t that common lol. Cam measured 6’5” even if it’s a morning height he’s still taller than Boris in the pics Christian posted that are better quality and Utendahl and Boris are around the same height in that pic.

Lol now you see who is the Virus here. It surely isn’t Christian or me
Canson said on 8/Jun/18
@Andrea: How seriously a poster like me should be taken? You’re the one who criticizes any picture where Boris looks under 6’4” and finds any excuse such as accusing someone of wearing lifts when Boris is shorter. Now you’re accusing Utendahl of downplaying his height or of him being underlisted? Really? Lol. You’re the one who nobody takes seriously. Cam is taller than Boris in the pic and is also taller than Utendahl in the 3rd pic. That is very obvious. Of course you make an excuse about any pic where Boris looks under 6’4”. A guy is not going to be listed at 6’3” when he’s 6’5/6’6 Andrea. That’s common sense. By the way Utendahl is closer to the camera than Cam which is why he looks taller in the one pic.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 8/Jun/18
John Utendahl does look easily over 6'3" with Cam Newton.
Andrea said on 7/Jun/18
Leaving aside the other huge amount of BS you wrote, that set you apart, and that don't even deserve an answer, once again you prove your dumbness, Canson. In fact, that John Utendahl guy does look noticeably taller than 6'3, no matter if he "is listed 6’3”". He does, in fact, look comfortably taller than Cam at the same event Click Here and completely towers a pretty tall woman like Tyra Banks, who very likely is in decent heels here Click Here So, although I should see more to be more sure about him, it is pretty clear he is well over 6'3, and very likely no less than 6'5-6'6.
You saying that he's 6'3 just because of a few random listings goes to show that you don't even know what you're talking about, and how seriously a poster like you should be taken. Again.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 5/Jun/18
@Canson Boris does look under 6’4” in the pictures you mentioned.

I would dare say David Hasselhoff would beat this guy out.

That’s me being nice about it.
Canson said on 3/Jun/18
Another pic with Boris and Utendahl where he again does not
Look 6’4”

Click Here
Canson said on 3/Jun/18
This is another instance where Boris does not look 6’4” but rather 6’3” max. The other guy in this picture (aside From Cam Newton), John Utendahl, is listed 6’3” and Boris is no taller than him. This along with the fact that he’s only listed on his site as 6’2.5. We don’t know for sure outside of the people who’ve claimed to meet him here but his 6’4” could very well be 6’4 in shoes or even 6’3.75 in shoes rounded up

Click Here
Canson said on 1/Jun/18
@Dream: I shouldn’t have responded either but since my name was mentioned in that last diatribe, I did. You’re right he can look 6’4” but does look 6’3” as well to be fair. Christian, in his defense, responds just like I do but also has a point when he brings up the pics where Boris looks 6’3 as Andrea has on more than one occasion said that“there are no pictures” even after they had been posted before and he acknowledged them before.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 1/Jun/18
Just drop it now. It’s getting out of hand.



@Andrea I can agree that most of the time, Boris is 6’4,” but you don’t have to prove it.

@Christian just please agree to disagree.


Just end the fued.
Canson said on 31/May/18
@Andrea: what do you mean with what you said about Christian and me in your last post how you crack up and it happens on almost every page? You flooded John Cena’s page and Sookie’s Den along with Marlon Wayans with the same garbage attacking either of us or both of us because of how we estimated. And if you look closely you started the argument on all three pages. So Half the stuff you say that either one of us does, you say or do. So if anything it just makes you a hypocrite. If you don’t agree with our estimates then that’s fine because we also don’t agree with you.

As far as your picture with Cam and Boris, it’s common sense. In Christian’s pic, Cam may be closer to the camera but it’s pretty obvious who is taller. Any of us can tell from looking at the pic that Christian posted of Boris and Cam that Cam is not only taller but that Boris has a footwear advantage. This is all despite him being closer to the camera. And better yet, I guarantee that if Cam appeared taller in your pic that you wouldn’t have even posted it. You would’ve completely disregarded it. There were a few other pics in that batch but you conveniently chose the one that supports your narrative of Boris being at or above 6’4”.
Andrea said on 30/May/18
The reason why I say something like "Boris looking taller than what you want him to be" is because you act like that. Look at what happened with Cam Newton. I did post a decent picture of Boris and him, and since you didn't like the way Boris shaped up next to him, you came out with a ridicolous excuse such as "the pic was taken from a distorted angle". What's even funnier is that you later posted a picture where Cam was standing closer to the camera, where Boris looks naturally shorter than he is (because of that), which is exactly what you want. Plus, you are the same guy that at the beginning of this discussion told me this: "You can keep on believing he's 6'4" until the end of time, but that won't change the fact that he's actually 190cm and has always been". So I have good reason for thinking something like that, and that also shows your arrogance in calling him being 190 a fact, LOL.
And no, I've never denied that he doesn't look over 6'3 in that SINGLE PICTURE with Jamie Foxx and Akon, but they are in fact the only two instances where he can look as low as that. Are you going to say that Boris isn't over 6'3 because of those two pictures, and simply disregard every other instance (a bit more than just a couple) where he looks at least 6'4? Go ahead. Although that's a pretty weak argument, you're perfectly entitled to say something like that. But again, according to that "logic", you could make a case for EVERY celebrity being an inch or over shorter than their listings because there will always be a few pictures where they can look shorter than they are, for one reason or another.
As for Michael Jai White, I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself, but he does have a huge camera advantage over Boris in that picture. He's standing a lot closer to the camera and the camera seems pretty low, which makes a huge difference, so I wonder how you can draw any conclusion from a picture like that. And you wonder why I say that you have no clue camera angles/positions/etc, LOL. And just because that's the only pic you could find of the two doesn't mean that you necessarily have to post it. You have no idea of how many pictures I have discarded because of that...
And I wouldn't crack up at what I said about you and Canson because that's the plain and sad truth. If you take a look at other pages (not only at this one), it is quite self-evident. Just like I wouldn't say that he held on his own, considering that, once you left, he had to gang up with a questionable poster like viper and even remarked more than once that he wished you came back, when he was in crisis... (How cute that was)
As for Rob, I've never used him for my own narrative. If anything, I used him against your own narrative, which is a bit different. You are the one who keeps speaking of Boris having some noticeable footwear advantage over Kobe, Boris looking no more than 6'3 next to the same Kobe or Boris looking 6'3 range in tons of instances as fact and even attacking me or calling me unreasonable because of not acknowledging something that, at the very most, is a very questionable opinion.
Canson said on 29/May/18
With Jamie Foxx he looks 6’2” range

Click Here

With Kobe or Cam Newton he looks 6’3” considering he has footwear advantages on both
berta said on 29/May/18
Interesting that mr saw him at little over 6 foot 3. I think mr is very good at guessing height. Boris could maybe be more in the 192 range? I personally think its either 192 or 193. But i have been vety wrong before :p
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 28/May/18
@Andrea

You have no room to crticize me when I said that you want Boris to be as tall as possible, when you said "Boris looking taller than what you want him to be", which implies that somehow I "want" Boris to be a certain height. First off, that's not true at all because I've said in the past that I wouldn't care if Boris turned out to be 6'4" if Rob meets him. I would just move on. And second, I acknowledge and am aware that he look 6'4" in some pics. So if I really wanted him to be 6'3", I wouldn't never said anything like that. But you on the other hand, deny that he ever looks 6'3" despite there are pics showing otherwise, so I actually hold more merit in my statement that you want Boris to be as tall as possible, than your statement that I want him to be a certain height.
And that pic with Michael Jai White wasn't taken as nearly as low as the pic with Cam, so it's really no comparison. And while Michael does stand closer to the camera, It's only about an inch of camera advantage over Boris, and that's the only pic I could find of the two. Common sense would tell you that Boris won't be looking 3.5" taller than Michael if the two stood at the same distance.
And I just cracked up when you said that Canson often recycles my words and arguments. It doesn't mean that he doesn't have a mind on his own, it's means that his mind just happens to be similar to mine on a lot of things. And if he supposedly can't think for himself and steals my words and arguments, then why is it that we disagree with each other occasionally? There are a few times that I disagreed with him on some stuff. And the fact that he held on his own while I was away from this site for a couple months, proves he has his own mind.
I'm not obsessed with Rob, but rather it's you. You're keeping using him for your own narrative and accuse me of calling him unreasonable, which I never said or even implied. And when I was mentioning about reasonability, I didn't mention anything about the Kobe pic, but pics in general. Rob thinks that Borks looks an inch shorter than Kobe in their pic, but he has said that he can understand that he looks closer to 6'3" at times. Just go back to 11/Sep/17 if you don't believe me. But apparently the word "pay attention" isn't in your vocabulary.
Andrea said on 28/May/18
Yep, I couldn't agree more, berta.
As for Boris, he basically always looks at least 6'4 with every celebrity he appears with. Although you can certainly say that something like 192 is not impossible next to Kobe (if he really is as low as his 6'4.75 listing), even that mark generally does seem too low for him. If he was as low as 192, that would mean that basically every celebrity that appeared with him should be downgraded by a visible amount (and some already should be, if he's only 6'4 flat). Let alone 6'3, which is pure madness.
For reference, here's Boris with:
1. 6'1.5 listed Boris Becker: Click Here Click Here Click Here
2. 6'0.5 (6'1 peak) listed Steve Harvey and 6' Tyson Beckford: Click Here With the same Steve Harvey, back in 1998 (so certainly still at his peak height, considering that he was only around 40 back then): Click Here
3. 6'5.5 listed Kevin Durand: Click Here Click Here
4. 6'1 listed Oded Fehr: Click Here Click Here
5. 6'6 listed Rick Fox: Click Here Click Here
6. 6' listed James Van Der Beek: Click Here
7. 6' listed Kim Coates: Click Here
8. 6'7.5 listed Magic Johnson: Click Here Click Here
9. 6'1 listed Brian J White: Click Here
10. 5'11 listed Wayne Brady: Click Here
11. 6'4 listed Henry Simmons: Click Here
12. 5'10.75 listed Tyrese Gibson: Click Here
13. 6'1.5-6'2 range AJ Calloway: Click Here The same AJ with Jared: Click Here
14. 5'9.25 listed Casper Van Dien: Click Here
15. 5'11-6' range Dr. Oz: Click Here
16. 6'0.5 listed Wentworth Miller: Click Here
17. 6'4 (6'4.5 peak) listed Dennis Haysbert: Click Here Click Here
18. 6'3 range Nigel Barker: Click Here
19. 6'3 range Jerome Boateng: Click Here
20. 6'3 1/8 MEASURED Damien Woody: Click Here
21. 196 listed Dustin Brown: Click Here The same Dustin with Andy Murray: Click Here Click Here
22. 6'4.5 listed Chi McBride: Click Here And Boris even seems to be in less footwear than Chi: Click Here Click Here With the same Chi, back in 2000s (when Chi was only just over 40, so I doubt he had already lost anything by then): Click Here
23. 6'0.5 listed John Cena: Click Here
24. 6'4.25 listed Tyler Perry: Click Here
25. 6'4.75 listed James Avery (in his late 50s): Click Here
26. 6'0.5 listed Marlon Wayans: Click Here Click Here Click Here
Canson said on 27/May/18
@Berta: he looks 6’4 at times then 6’2 range with someone like Jamie Foxx. Then 6’3” with Barkley or Cam or Kobe. It’s probably the pics but My opinion on him is 190-191. Mr R claimed to have met him and said he looks a little over 6’3” and Bobby3342 said 6’2.75. Looking at him next to Kobe I would say 6’3 tops being he has a footwear advantage on Kobe as well and is closer to the camera.
Dream(5'9.5") said on 27/May/18
I agree with berta. It's getting out of hand. We don't want a civil war or a civil justice about it, LOL!

Boris can look 193 cm.
berta said on 25/May/18
Guys just ignore eachother.this doesnt lead to anything. Back to height- i think boris is close to 193 range.
Andrea said on 19/May/18
Again, there's nothing wrong with that angle, Christian, apart from maybe Boris looking taller than what you want him to be... It's funny that you say that if Cam towered over Boris, you still would've called it out as a bad pic, when you are the same guy who posted a picture like this (and recently brought it up again) Click Here to prove that Boris isn't over 6'3, a picture where Boris is standing noticeably further away from the camera (that is also pretty low, so it makes a huge difference), LOL.
As for Canson, not only he agrees and likes every single post of yours, but he also very often recycles your words and arguments because he obviously isn't able to have a discussion on his own. And this has been clear from the very beginning of this endless (and equally useless) discussion.
And when did I accuse you of keeping bringing Rob up? If anything, you are the one who is obsessed about that and keeps accusing me of that. Speaking of Rob, you did say on John Cena's page that any reasonable person is going to acknowledge that there are tons of instances (such as Kobe's photo) where Boris looks 6'3, and you did call me unreasonable for not acknowledging that. All I said is that since even Rob disagrees about that and apparently doesn't acknowledge that, you're basically calling him unreasonable too. That's simple logic (a word that you probably have never heard, though)!
MJKoP said on 18/May/18
viper said on 1/Mar/18
Never thought of him as OJ. I thought somebody like Morris Chestnut would have been a way better choice to play OJ than Cuba.

I couldn't really picture him as OJ, either, until....


Click Here
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 17/May/18
@Andrea

How many times do I have to repeat myself? Your pic was relatively bad because it was shot from an upwards angle, not straight. It has nothing to do with whether who looks taller in that pic. If Cam towered over Boris, I still would've called it out as a bad pic. Once again, you're falsely accusing me of things I didn't do/think. So look at yourself in the mirror before labeling others of not "understanding sh*t".
And Canson agreeing and liking my posts doesn't mean that he can't think on his own nor he's seeking some sort of approval or validation. What's wrong with agreeing and liking someone's posts? That's like saying that because you liked someone's post on Facebook, it means that you don't have the mind and the ability to post on your own and you're seeking their approval. This is exactly how dumb you sound. But this is classic Andrea, with your screwed up logic.
And if you think that height differences are purely facts, then cut the crap and just tell me directly that my estimates are wrong, if you think I'm wrong. After 9 months of this heated discussion, you're too afraid to "hurt my feelings"? (Although there's nothing you can say to actually hurt my feelings)
And it's insane that you're accusing me of keep bringing Rob up, when you're the one who started this by first bringing up Rob on 7/May by saying:

"It is just your "opinion", Canson, that Boris has a footwear advantage over Kobe. Even Rob disagrees with you. Does that mean that he's saying that because it doesn't support his narrative too? LOL Sure, you can always say that it is just his opinion too, but there is a big difference between you and Rob. First of all, he objectively has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you, and second of all, he is not biased, unlike you."

And notice that nowhere did I mention anything about Rob from 24/Apr until you made that comment. And also you put words in my mouth (like you constantly do) by falsely accusing me of believeing that Rob's unreasonable, on John Cena's page. You're the one who's trying to instigate and also trying to use him as leverage against me, and because I'm explaining and defending myself, I'm the one who's "keep bringing it up and obsessed about it"? Wtf? It's obviously you who's doing just that.
Canson said on 16/May/18
@Andrea: “I have to praise others comments and it is cringeworthy”? Do I detect jealousy because I agree with Christian and not you?

That’s funny because I’ve seen you tell other posters who have estimated close to yours on this page and on Merriman’s that you not only agree with their estimates but also have tried to turn them against Viper or me by belittling us. That just speaks to your hypocrisy though and I am not making anything up or “lying” like you accuse me of because all of the posts are here (majority are on this page). Yes go ahead and continue to make up stuff or accuse me of doing things that you do. You just make yourself look worse each time
Editor Rob
Guys can we reel this conversation in a bit, thanks.
Canson said on 16/May/18
“Apart from the fact that he doesn’t agree with you which is something you can’t stand”

Oh really Andrea? Is that why you asked Rob to ban Viper? I doubt it has anything to do with his multiple usernames. That didn’t seem to bother you until he came out and said that Boris looked 6’3 and that Merriman looked 6’2. So anyone who doesn’t agree with you, you can’t stand and you even ask Rob to ban them? Sounds like when others don’t agree with you, you can’t stand them
Canson said on 16/May/18
@Andrea: I’ve never “run” to Christian for any reassurance or anyone else. There you go with your hypocrisy rearing its “ugly” face again. In case you didn’t know, me simply bringing a person’s name up isn’t seeking reassurance. Hell, if that’s the case, you do it in every post as you mention my name in almost every post to Christian. Hmmm?

And seeking reassurance is trying to “engage” other posters such as Tunman, Junior, Zampo, and others in our disagreement thinking that it is going to bolster your argument by having them gang up. Or by trying to solicit the same with Viper in an attempt to gang up on him. How about asking Rob how tall he thinks so and so looks in a picture or the height difference between or among a group? Or better yet, having to have Rob throw you a bone and resurrect Christian’s posts just to prove a point that has nothing to do with height. I don’t need to continue because you are fully aware just as well as I am of what you do. You think your sh*t doesn’t stink or that you have some type of birthright or ownership stake here at Celebheights. You seriously tried to use the guilt trip with Christian and me by telling us “So you don’t think Rob is. Reasonable guy” and then of course “Even Rob believes Boris doesn’t look 6’3” with Kobe? That’s what you call seeking assistance there by “name dropping” Rob in your dialogue thinking that it gives your weak argument any merit.

You just did it again by saying What you did to Christian because he doesn’t agree with Rob’s estimate on footwear. Well, as much as I respect Rob, we all know that he is human like we are. If he were perfect and free of flaws, he would list every celeb perfectly the first time and not have to make any adjustments later on. But you know that already. You threw that last line at Christian because “Rob saying he doesn’t look 6’3” supports your narrative and you are simply trying to play the guilt card via Rob Paul with Christian in getting him to agree with your assessment because “Rob says so”. You want to talk about sad and pathetic? That’s the definition of it right there, plain and simple
Canson said on 16/May/18
@Andrea: I’ve never “run” to Christian for any reassurance or anyone else. There you go with your hypocrisy rearing its “ugly” face again. In case you didn’t know, me simply bringing a person’s name up isn’t seeking reassurance. Hell, if that’s the case, you do it in every post as you mention my name in almost every post to Christian. Hmmm?

And seeking reassurance is trying to “engage” other posters such as Tunman, Junior, Zampo, and others in our disagreement thinking that it is going to bolster your argument by having them gang up. Or by trying to solicit the same with Viper in an attempt to gang up on him. How about asking Rob how tall he thinks so and so looks in a picture or the height difference between or among a group? Or better yet, having to have Rob throw you a bone and resurrect Christian’s posts just to prove a point that has nothing to do with height. I don’t need to continue because you are fully aware just as well as I am of what you do. You think your sh*t doesn’t stink or that you have some type of birthright or ownership stake here at Celebheights. You seriously tried to use the guilt trip with Christian and me by telling us “So you don’t think Rob is. Reasonable guy” and then of course “Even Rob believes Boris doesn’t look 6’3” with Kobe? That’s what you call seeking assistance there by “name dropping” Rob in your dialogue thinking that it gives your weak argument any merit.
Andrea said on 15/May/18
And yeah, Christian, you basically did say that Rob is wrong because you attacked me for saying that Boris' footwear isn't much different than Kobe's and that he doesn't look as low as 6'3 in those pictures, which is something that Rob said too...
Andrea said on 15/May/18
I still think that "height differences aren't an opinion, but a fact", Christian. In fact, I did say that you saying that Boris looks 6'3 in some pics is just your opinion, AT THE VERY MOST, otherwise I would have hurt your feelings.
And I do perfectly know what "running" means because I've seen Canson do it a lot with you... And although I'm Italian and English is not my native language, unlike you, I do understand a lot more things than you because there are certain things that go beyond the language itself and that you can't understand if you don't have a brain (like you have proved more than once).
As for Rob, I never denied asking him things either and I have already explained you why. And I don't really understand why you keep bringing it up and why you are so obsessed about that. Well, apart from the fact that he doesn't agree with you, which is something that you really can't stand, LOL.
Andrea said on 15/May/18
Yeah, Canson, go on making up bullsh*ts. You basically keep proving every single thing I've said about you... 😊
To be honest, I don't even blame you for that anymore. I just pity you. You are just a pathetic, broken man.
P.S. It's funny how you say that you don't need to run to others for reassurance, when you always have to bring up other posters in almost every comment of yours and praise other people's comments (especially Christian's) with cringeworthy statements such as "your last post was priceless", "well said", "agreed",etc. because you're obviously not able to have a discussion on your own and express your thoughts using your own words, which is certainly not surprising, considering that you have the dialectical and speaking skills of a 10 years old kid (on good days), LOL.
Andrea said on 15/May/18
Christian, my pic of Boris and Cam is at "bad angle" just because you don't like the way Boris shapes up next to Cam. That's very simple! The other photo you posted, on the other hand, is better just because Cam is closer to the camera and Boris looks shorter than he is, which is exactly what you want.
And again, I didn't accuse you of creating multiple usernames. Although I certainly don't think highly of you, to be honest, I don't think you would do something like that. The reason why I said "people" is because all those people I've mentioned (free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc.) are one person alone, namely viper. You may be right, though. You don't misunderstand... You just don't understand sh*t!
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 14/May/18
@Canson

Wow, thanks! Your 12/May comment was just as good!
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 13/May/18
@Andrea

I didn't say that Rob's wrong, he just has his opinions and I have mine. But just because he's measured many types of shoes and ran this site for 13 years, it doesn't mean that he has more objective knowledge about footwear and heights than anyone else in the world. And if Boris looking 6'3" in some pics is just my opinion, why did you say before that "height differences aren't an opinion, but a fact" on Ray Fisher's page? See, you just contradicted yourself once again.
And if your definition of "run" is defending someone that you agree with, or mentioning someone's name, then you're totally wrong. "Running" is essentially going to someone to ask something from them or do you a favor. But I don't think I have to waste my time pulling up the dictionary definition this time because you're clearly too dumb to get it. But I'm gonna go a bit lenient on you because you're Italian so English may not be your native language.
I know I've asked Rob a few times how tall he thinks someone is in the past, but you can't call me a hypocrite because I never denied doing it. But I've never done it in the middle of a debate with someone in order to attempt to disprove their arguments (like you do, and that's the issue I have with you regarding this topic), and I've never done it regarding Boris. I've never asked Rob how tall does he think Boris is in a pic, but you've done it many times.
And "hyperbole" is based on exaggeration, and exaggeration means: "to enlarge or increase especially beyond the normal". Saying that you'd actually have no problem if Boris turns out to be 6'3", then making a "hyperbole" that you'll never come back to the site out of embarrassment if turns out to be 6'3", is a direct contradiction, and not an exaggeration. It would be an exaggeration if you said that you'll actually be angry, sad, embarrassed or shocked, but saying that you'd have no problem is not an exaggeration, but a contradiction. So either you made an excuse, or you lied.
Canson said on 13/May/18
@Andrea: please show me where I “constantly” run to Christian for anything. You can’t. However, I can show where you constantly seek reassurance or validation from other posters and Rob on other pages however. You’ve done it on Cena’s page, Boris’s, Wayne brady’s, Tyler Perry’s, and Haysbert’s. But again, that only applies to you because you need all of the reassurance and support that you can get because you need self validation. Much of this has to do with you as a person and a poster as you constantly try to belittle Christian and me as well as Viper and Rampage to name a few. You know that if your estimate turned out to be incorrect, that you will look even stupider and more buffoonish than you already do, which you practically admitted when you said that you would be not Return to the site out of embarrassment if Boris turned out to be under 6’4”. But you dismiss it as hyperbole?

You want to talk about making things personal. Of course you called Christian and me boyfriends, saying I have “a deformed head and that says a lot”, telling us that we can’t estimate height (which is your opinion and we can say the same about you as well), that we aren’t “good” with telling Camera tricks, telling me I need to go back to school instead of being on this site. So if anything, you are a hypocrite. You point out what both of us do just to deflect the attention off of you. And you are also “playing the ambulance card” here with that and telling Christian that he started it by saying that “You just want to make Boris as tall as possible” So really, stop while you are behind making comments about us making things personal or playing the persecution card, or pointing out things that you do and accuse us of.

You say it’s cringeworthy that Christian and I agree on everything. It sounds to me like you have a problem with it because we agree with each other and not you. Thus, you have nobody to back you on your ridiculous and hypocritical comments you make to us. But I feel bad for you because you really do need the help a lot more than either of us does. And I can tell that that bothers you because you even brought up Viper and me connecting on Twitter below. That eats away at you doesn’t it? But the better question is, if you hate Viper so much and ridicule him the way that you do, constantly bringing him up here when he hasn’t even been actively posting on this page let alone this site, then why are you keeping tabs on his Twitter account? Nobody that hates someone or talks badly about someone the way you do Viper would keep up with his daily activity on Twitter. And you say that he or I have miserable or bad lives? Sounds to me like you are paranoid and think or even know people are talking about you so you go looking for an anticipating it. You wouldn’t have to do that if you weren’t the person that you are or didn’t say or do the things that you do here. LMFAO! That’s funny that you even know about the activity on his account being you clearly don’t like him. Sounds to me like you have the problem, not he or I or Christian. And I brought this up because you brought it up to me below like it was supposed to be an attack on my character when really you were “playing the ambulance card” and it really bothered you that that happened.

So to sum you up, you are a hypocrite, you feel that you are entitled here on this site, and you get very combative and personal with people when they disagree with you. I mean why would you try to “expose or show what’s Christian or I do here” when it has nothing to do with Boris’s height? You bring up all of the things you say that we do yet you have already done them or you turn right around and do them. You tell us “just because you believe that Boris looks 6’3” doesn’t mean it’s a fact. Well, just because you think Boris looks 192 with Kobe doesn’t make it a fact either. Just because you believe that Boris looks 4” taller than Cena doesn’t make it a fact either. Rob has the difference in height at 3.5” here but you only “name drop” Rob or try to exploit him in the argument with us when it is convenient for you. “Even Rob doesn’t think he looks 6’3 with Kobe”. “So are you saying that Rob isn’t a reasonable guy”? Sounds to me like you are guilting us into changing our estimates out of fear of not disappointing Rob. Last I checked, Rob encourages different viewpoints. That is very strange that he, the owner of this site has that view but you, a wanna be owner of the site who lives his life vicariously through Celebheights only thinks that his opinion matters here.

Hmmm.. maybe that’s why you ran to Rob to get Shredder back on the site despite Rob having made his mind up, or “suggesting that Rob ban Viper” as a result of what Rob said he did. You don’t like Viper because he puts you in your place and does not agree with you or “bow” down to you. That’s the real issue. You only like people who support you. Last but not least, you said that you would “Put pressure on Rob to downgrade other celebs” if Boris were really 6’3 in person? That sounds to me like you “believe” in your head that you “hold leverage” over Rob LOL!!! And if you’re really telling Christian and me that we don’t think Rob is reasonable, which both of us have said we respect Rob, your statements show clearly that you believe that you wield power and influence over Rob. That is sad! But that explains a lot about you.
Canson said on 12/May/18
@Christian: your last post was priceless! It was spot on!!! Especially the last paragraph. That may be the best post that I have ever seen on this site in the entire time I’ve been here!
Canson said on 12/May/18
@Andrea: accusing you of what I do? You just accused me of running to others for reassurance. I have never once done that on this site. You have, however, done it just for Boris Khodjoe alone, on this page, Haysbert’s, Tyler Perry’s, Chi McBride’s, etc. you even ran to Rob here to have him retrieve comments that Christian made to you IN Retaliation to your behavior against him, which have no bearing on how tall Boris is or isn’t. Would you like me to go and retrieve all of that and post it here? It is very clear especially on Tyler Perry’s page as it’s within the last few comments on that page. You have several just within the last 10 there all of which are you seeking some type of opinion that Boris (not Perry) is a certain height. So I really don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re running in circles now making accusations about both of us just because you have no other defense. Maybe if you stop insulting both of us, we will do the same and just get back to a discussion about Boris’s height. That doesn’t seem likely however because you expect both of us to accept your estimates and bow down to you.

As far as personal “insults” against others, that’s clearly you continuing to make them against both Christian and me, as well as Viper. Once again, Viper is not even actively posting at this stage and you are still attacking him about his multiple usernames and his estimates and even making accusations against him that he “votes” before he goes to bed and purposely makes Boris shorter. Funny that You didn’t mention any of that when he guessed Boris as being 6’4, but reverted to attacking him when he guessed him at 6’3”. You also attacked Bennett along the way as well as Mr R and Bobby3342 for their estimates. I mean it’s all here on this page. As far as Mr. R, as soon as he mentioned that Boris was a little over 6’3”, you called his estimates and his estimating questionable to Christian.

As far as Moe, he started the argument. I’ve already pointed this out. It was on 23 March 2016. I hadn’t made any attacks on him before that. It was simply retaliation. When someone calls Bobby3342 and me “short losers”, I don’t see why we are not allowed to retaliate. But of course you do not mention that part about him starting the argument because it doesn’t support your narrative. As far as Thereel, I crossed the line admittedly but because he attacked S.J.H. and was speaking nonsense about Kobe’s sexual assault charge that have nothing to do with his height. He mentioned that’s why he believed he was downplaying his height an inch. That’s just ridiculous. But if you want to talk about making things personal, you did the same with Rampage and Viper in addition to both Christian and me. you know, the people who call you on your bullsh*t? So you really have no room to talk. As far as I’m concerned, Christian, Rampage, and Viper are all stand up dudes unlike you. And i agree with what Christian said, I feel sorry for both of your parents because they failed raising you or you just didn’t turn out right. Funny how you took that from what Christian just said in his last post and turned it around on me. You did the same with me just now to in regards to Moe in regards To my employment. I’ve mentioned before my job so I don’t need to again especially when you’re being childish now. You cannot even come up with your own stuff. You’ve used what Christian or I have said on several different occasions now and turned it around on both of us.

Do you really want to talk about spamming this site? You went in late December here on this page, and retrieved old quotes from arguments I’ve had with others. They were not the first comments there on either page either. You really had to look for them and you did so just to try to attack me. It had nothing to do with the discussion about Boris’s height. In addition, you began attacking me on Cena’s page once again because I do not agree with you or you don’t agree with me. I had not even mentioned your name there. You just jumped in for no reason knowing it was going to lead to another never ending argument. So that is what you call spamming. But That is the exact same thing that you are accusing me of. I wasn’t even paying you any mind prior to that so if anything you spammed this page and Cena’s with needless arguments just because you are angry that Christian and I don’t “bow down to you”. You act as if you’re entitled and the entire community is supposed to bow down to you.

“You’re going to put a lot of pressure on Rob to downgrade people if Boris doesn’t turn out 6’4”. Since When did Rob retire and make you the owner of Celebheights? That is by far the saddest comment I’ve seen here on this site. You think that Rob is supposed to listen to you? Why? You are no different than any other poster here?

Do you really want to go there with prostituting? You not only insulted Christian and me both repeatedly telling us that we “have no clue about this or that” or are “unable to accurately assess heights” and even called us “Boyfriends”. So yes the prostituting was retaliation to you doing all of that. Do you think “Boyfriends” is not derogatory? It sounds so to me that you were trying to offend us with that?

So really Andrea, this is not getting old. This is ancient.Just cut the crap. Every time you make an accusation against us, especially when it’s false or hypocritical, we just call you on it. It’s even worse that what you accuse both of us of, you do yourself
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 12/May/18
@Andrea

Your pic with Boris and Cam is at a bad angle because it's taken upwards instead of straight ahead, unlike mine.
And as I said, you accused me of creating multiple usernames indirectly and subtly. Otherwise you wouldn't have put quotations around the word "people", indicating that I, Canson, and the other people you mentioned created multiple usernames and voted. And yes, I voted 6'3" once but I didn't hide behind any fake names and voted. And one 6'3" vote out of 41 votes is gonna barely affect the Average Guess. I'm not misunderstanding anything here.
Canson said on 11/May/18
This is another picture with Boris and 6’1” Barry Bonds. The pic isn’t perfect nor are many of the ones here but that’s not a 3” difference regardless

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Canson said on 11/May/18
@Christian: well said! With my head, I have a crown on the top of it that is very pointed like Charles Barkley’s. If that portion is raised, I would be a tad taller. This is when I tilt my chin down a touch and the top of it raises. The only reason I could tell is I have a light fixture in my place that is 6’6.5ish I believe and I was in boots one morning when I first woke up and the crown grazed it whereas if my head is lined up properly I don’t touch it even in the boots first thing out of bed when I measure 195.7-.8 barefoot. The boots probably put me up near the mark but if my head is tilted down a tad maybe higher. I have long neck though and it’s not as sturdy as it should be given broad shoulders and the rest of the muscle I have throughout my body
Andrea said on 11/May/18
The reason why I'm "basically regurgitating the same talking points I made towards Canson, to you" is because you two are not much different. And that must be the reason why you get along so well with each other. And the fact that Rob measured many shoes must mean something. Sure, he may be wrong, but you act as if he IS wrong when you say that Boris has a clear footwear advantage over Kobe. If anything, you have a lot more chance of being wrong than him for the reasons I have already stated. The same goes for Boris looking 6'3 in many pics. That is just your opinion, at the very most, but you keep speaking of it as if it was a fact and you even accuse me of not acknowledging that, just because I don't agree with you.
As for Canson, he constantly runs to you. Not only on this page. And again, I don't know why you are so obsessed about that, but what's wrong with asking Rob his opinion about height differences and celebrities' heights? First of all, he's the top man in this field, whether you like it or not. He's been running a height site for over 13 years and he objectively has more knowledge about it than anybody else, so his opinion means something. And, unlike someone else, he's not biased. Second of all, everybody constantly asks him questions. Every day. Why do you think is that? I don't think it's because they need consensus or people agreeing with them. Besides the fact that, once again, you're hypocrite, considering that I've seen you asking Rob similar questions in the past. Plus, since you compare that with the cringeworthy relationship you have with Canson, see how many times I've mentioned Rob compared to the number of times Canson mentioned you...
As for measuring taller when you tilt your head down, I've never said that it is impossible, but I said that it is impossible UNLESS you have a deformed head, so, once again, learn to read. You're right. Maybe Canson has a deformed head, who knows? That could certainly explain a lot of things. The point is, though, that not only he said that, but he also said that Boris looked taller than he is in a certain pic just because he was tilting his head down, which is BS.
And yeah. As I said, I'd have no problem with Boris being as low as 6'3. At all. I'd have a problem with every other celebrity he has appeared with, though, because that would mean that they are nowhere near their listings. It is not that hard to understand, although everything suddenly becomes a contradiction (or an excuse) whenever you don't understand something (and that happens very often, I'm wondering why). Btw, you really impressed me with "semantics". Where did you get it from? From your beloved "Merriam Webster dictionary"? 😊
Andrea said on 11/May/18
Funny (and very cringeworthy) how you keep accusing me of every single thing you're clearly guilty of, Canson. I don't know if you do it on purpose or if you really believe in what you say. I really hope, for you, that it's the former case, otherwise your brain deficiencies are even worse than what I thought, LOL. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if even those brilliant and personal insults you pointed at those people that disagreed with you, they actually have something to do with you and your life alone. You probably really are an unemployed good-for-nothing loser (which is what you accused moe of), which would certainly explain why you have so much free time to spend spamming this site with your BSs, you probably really need to regularly visit a therapist (which is what you told TheReel to do), although I suggest you to find a new one because there are obviously still no results, you or someone in your family probably really had to prostitute themselves (which is what you accused me of), etc.
Canson said on 11/May/18
I did vote him at or below 6’3” as well. I used to think below but now I give him a full 6’3
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 11/May/18
@Andrea

You're just basically regurgitating the same talking points you made towards Canson, to me. Again, please provide statistics that Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than me or Canson. And making up fake numbers like when Rob has a 50% chance of being wrong, I have 90%, and saying that Rob measured many kinds of footwear and uploaded videos, don't prove anything. Btw, I'm not disparaging Rob in any way, IMO he's a great height guesser. Also, I'm not biased. If I really was, I would've purposefully exaggerated or diminished the height differences in pics in order to make Boris 6'3". But I don't do that. I'm fully aware that Boris looks 6'4" in many pics. But there are many pics where he looks 6'3" as well. But I don't see you ever acknowledging that. Instead, you always say that the lowest Boris can look is 192cm, which is far from the truth. And you even accused celebs of wearing lifts or standing on their tip toes when Boris looked under 6'4". So if anyone's biased, it's you.
And when the heck did Canson ever run to me for anything? Sure, he's defended me many times throughout this discussion as well as others because he agrees with a lot of my estimates, but that's not the same as you asking Rob how tall someone is or the height differences between people, which you've done many times. Canson has never done that to me.
And how do you know that Canson doesn't measure taller when he tilts down his head? Have you ever met him and seen him measure in person? Everyone has different head shapes and structures. Just because you don't measure taller when you tilt your head, it doesn't mean it's the case for everyone. I tried it myself, and I didn't measure any taller either, but I don't go around saying Canson's wrong, because I realize that maybe he has a different head shape and structure than mine. In case you haven't noticed it already, the world doesn't revolve around you, Andrea.
And even if you said "never come back" and not "run away", you basically meant the same thing. You're using semantics. Also, you're making excuses by dismissing it as a hyperbole? Well I can't say I'm surprised. And you can't say that you won't have a problem with it if Rob meets Boris and lists him as 6'3", then turn around and pressure Rob to drastically downgrade every celeb both he and Boris stood along with. You'll obviously have a problem with it if you're gonna pressure Rob to do that. I don't think I've ever seen anyone so full of contradictions like you, both online and in real life.
Andrea said on 10/May/18
How the hell did you post "a much better, more accurate pic" than I did, Christian? LOL As I said, you did post a picture where Cam is clearly closer to the camera than Boris, in order to make Boris appear shorter than he is. And exactly as I said, although you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc., you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives. Like you keep doing there, when you say that it is a bad angle, when there's really nothing bad about it. Sure, you cannot see their footwear (which is something I remarked when I first posted the picture) and the ground level, but again, you can see the footwear they're wearing from the other photos of the event, which hadn't been published yet when I posted the picture, and the ground level... Well, it's taken in the same place. Plus, it's clearly an indoor place, so even if there weren't other pics of them together, you could certainly tell the ground is very likely flat.
And no, for the last time, I didn't accuse you and Canson of submitting multiple low votes. Not even indirectly. Come on, read it again. It's not that hard:
"I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. 😉"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. 😊"
As I said, my accusations were levelled against one poster alone. And that's viper, in case you still haven't figured it out (and you probably haven't, considering how stupid you seem to be). And all I said was that it would be interesting to see who really guessed Boris at 6'3 (or lower), apart from viper with his countless number of "fake names/accounts" (which are in fact "free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc."), you and Canson. The only reason why I mentioned you and Canson is because I was sure that you both voted him at 6'3 or under. And in fact, you did, by your own admission. So yeah, you did misunderstand and jump to conclusions AGAIN.
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Andrea: “Because you and Canson say he had a footwear advantage doesn’t make it a fact”.

You’re absolutely right Andrea because anyone can be wrong. So then if that’s the case, why don’t you stop telling us “Boris is only 3cm shorter than kobe, not 1.5-2”. Don’t forget Boris is closer to the camera. Or that Cena has better posture than Boris etc. something is only a fact when it comes out of your mouth but when Christian or I say it, it’s “speculation” or our opinions. This just magnified your hypocrisy here.
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Andrea: do you mean that you would ask Rob to downgrade a lot of people? And if he says no then leave him alone about it. what does “I would put a lot of pressure on Rob to downgrade mean”? Again, this is not your site. Don’t get why you feel so “entitled”. You don’t see anyone else here making those ridiculous statement like you hold leverage on Rob or something
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Andrea: no you did not. You continued to attack VIPER on both this page and Merriman’s. Would you like me to go and retrieve the entire conversation? That’s both conversations here and on Shawne Merriman’s page. And below, you clearly started the argument with him by bashing him. Oh and all of the bashing didn’t begin until after he said that Boris (to him) was 6’3”. Prior to that, you were saying “well Even Viper who downgrades everyone says Boris looks 6’4”. As soon as that changed, and he revised his estimate, you have now changed your tune and began to go in on him too. If you don’t believe me, go back to October of last year. Otherwise, I will gladly retrieve where it began and how you went in on him for no reason. He, wisely, didn’t even respond back to you for at least a few weeks either. I can retrieve like you say, Since you love to try to think you are throwing your weight around “threatening” Christian and I with that all of the time. Only problem is you have no weight to throw around and nothing to even show for or to even think you’re entitled. You act like this is your site or like you have some type of entitlement to it or some type of stake in ownership. You don’t. You represent 1% of the posters here and your opinion is your opinion but that does not mean we all have to bow down to you just because Rob has met a celeb or two and changed his estimate to what you had them before he met them. By the way, Viper clearly stopped responding to you as he even knows that you are worthless. You act like a spoiled entitled child like you have some type of birthright or stake in this site when you mean jacksh*t. Nobody cares about you. Btw when Christian was gone I didn’t need anyone to defend me because I can clearly do it myself. Did you mean defend myself against you? That isn’t very hard. I just point out your hypocrisy as it runs rampant on this page and on this site. Nobody here takes you seriously.

And show me who I ran to please. As for you, you did so on Haysbert’s page, Chi McBride’s page, and on this page. You clearly asked other posters does he not look this with Boris? Would you like me to retrieve these too? And it’s funny because you are the one that sits here and brags about the fact that “historical” posts now exist. That also means your bullsh*t is as well. You know the quotes that you make and the actions you take that you accuse Christian and me of hoping that neither of us will go and retrieve it. You know the stuff that you figure that nobody sees. How you like to run to Rob for reassurance every so often. And no you never saw me do that or even solicit other posters like you did, so don’t accuse me of that. You are seriously a waste of time to even talk to. Viper did the right thing ignoring you before and it seems I should have because you have again begun another endless argument just because I don’t agree with you on your assessment with Boris. That’s what it boils down to. It doesn’t matter what Christian or I post, as long as it is not in agreement with your views you have something negative to say in response. I’m done responding to you because it obviously gets us nowhere. All we are doing is flooding the page with useless comments and it appears to me that you not only like to start arguments with people who don’t agree with you here but also you must get the last word in. Stuff you accuse me of that you are doing. If you want to accuse me of something, you need not have done or currently do the same thing. Otherwise, that makes you a hypocrite which you are the definition of.
Andrea said on 10/May/18
I've never said that just because Rob said that Boris' shoes aren't much different than Kobe's makes it a fact, Christian. Learn to read, ffs, and stop putting words in my mouth. I said that just because you and Canson keep saying that Boris has a clear footwear advantage over Kobe doesn't make it a fact, which is a bit different. And that's because you keep talking about it as if it was fact, which is NOT. And again, although you're certainly entitled to say the same thing about Rob, there's a big difference between you and Rob because 1) Rob objectively has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you and 2) he is not biased, unlike you. So if Rob has say a 50% chance of being wrong, you have 90%+ chance of being wrong. And the reason why I say that Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you is because he has measured many kind of them, and he even uploaded many videos to show how much they actually give, when he still had the Sneakers' page. It's not that hard to understand (well at least for a guy with an average IQ)...
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Christian: Well said! And that’s correct. Rob is a great guy and I value his opinions. But that’s how Andrea is. If what Rob says supports his narrative then he will include “Well even Rob says”, but bad he not said that, it would’ve just been “Well that’s your opinion” or if Andrea knew it for a fact, he would simply ignore the picture altogether and not mention it which is what he does with all pics where Boris looks under 6’4. You notice how he doesn’t mention the one about Barkley at all? He only says well with Kobe he can look 192cm?
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 9/May/18
@Andrea

Like I said, that pic was the most accurate one I could find, and it's certainly better than yours. Yours didn't show footwear and ground level, while mine did. Also yours was taken from a bad angle, while mine was taken straight ahead. The only thing in my pic was that Cam was standing a bit closer to the camera than Boris, giving Cam some advantage. But his footwear, posture and stance disadvantages trump over his camera advantage, giving him an overall disadvantage over Boris.
It's funny how I'm supposedly the one who's bad at gauging height differences, camera angles, footwear etc., yet I posted a much better, more accurate pic than you did.
And yes you did accuse Canson and I of submitting multiple low votes. Pay attention to what you wrote:

" I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. 😉"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. 😊"

You didn't say directly that Canson and I did it, but you said it indirectly. Also, you put quotation marks around the word "people", so basically you're accusing us of creating fake names in order to submit multiple votes, which I didn't do btw. I can't speak for Canson, but I doubt he would do such a thing either. I didn't "misunderstand" or "jump to conclusions", I know exactly what you're doing. Also, be original and make your own sentence structures instead of stealing mine. And this isn't the first time you did this. But I don't expect anything good out of you because you've already shown your stupidity a long time ago.
Andrea said on 9/May/18
That's exactly what you do, Canson. Running to people. You did it with Christian, throughout all this discussion, and then with a very questionable poster like viper, when Christian was away and couldn't defend you. And no, Rob never said that "he doesn’t know about the footwear". I'll copy and paste what he said to refresh your memory: "Footwear...I know Kobe has under inch, but the style Boris has isn't much different than what converse are designed like. I doubt there is much between their sneakers.". Of course he doesn't say he's 100% sure about that because he's not an arrogant c*nt like you are. And who cares if you wore canvas shoes. First of all, are Boris' shoes the same model you wore? And second of all, you are the same guy who says that if you tilt your head down, you're going to measure taller, which is scientifically impossible unless you have a deformed head, so I'd take what you say with a large pinch of salt.
As for the Average Guess, I have never submitted a single vote in my life because I really don't believe in that for the reasons I have already stated and to me it means nothing, so I don't see why I should secretly submit 6'4+ votes, but you're free to believe so. I don't really care. Though if I ever decided to do something like that you can be sure that 1) the Average Guess would be exactly as much as I want it to be and 2) I certainly wouldn't be so stupid to submit one vote after another to make it increase as fast as possible and get busted by Rob, unlike someone else. 😉
As for viper (not that I'm really changing the subject), if anything, I am the one who decided to stop talking and ignoring (both of) you. And I certainly am not the one who adds people on Twitter to keep talking behind other people's backs, which is something that only sad people with a sad life would do. You're right about one thing, though. viper hasn't been that active recently. I'm really wondering why. 😊 Btw, have you noticed that the number of votes stopped increasing since his departure? 😲 That being said, do not despair. I'm sure he will come back sooner or later, with one of his many fantasy names, unless he already has of course...
As for me saying that if Boris ever turned to be as low as 6'3, I would never come back on here on here out of the embarassment, and not "Run away from this site out of embarrassment and disappointment" (the quotation marks are used to quote someone's exact words, so at least make sure that I really said something like that before using them, mind you)... I don't know why you're so obsessed about that, but that's just a figure of speech. A hyperbole, to be exact. But again, I don't expect an ignorant guy like you to even know what I'm talking about. And the reason why I said something like that is because I have certainly seen enough to rule out 6'3... BUT if Rob ever met him and said that he isn't over 6'3, I would have no problem with it. Although I would put a lot of pressure on Rob to drastically downgrade every celebrity that appeared with Boris because that would mean that they are nowhere near their current listings, and to review the listings of those people that he has met because that would mean that he has overestimated them by a good amount too. 😉
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 9/May/18
@Andrea

Just because Rob says that Boris didn't have much footwear advantage over Kobe, it doesn't make it true. Also, how do you know if Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than Canson? Do you have any statistics to prove it? (which is impossible) Or are you just saying that because Rob's the owner of this site? He's not a perfect height-god like you describe him to be. For example, you should know first hand that he isn't because you "challenged" Rob's initial 6'2.75" lisiting for David Morrissey as 6'2", and he eventually lowered his listing to 6'2", especially after meeting him in person. And you've also admitted to have disagreed with several of Rob's listings for celebs as well and they've turned out to be in your favor when Rob met them. But all of a sudden, because Rob agrees with you about the footwear difference between Boris and Kobe, you have this "Well Rob agrees with me so it must be automatically true" mindset. I'm sure Rob doesn't like it when people use him to push their narrative. That's exactly what you're doing right now.
And estimating shoe differences are harder than heights because some shoes give more or less height than it looks on the outside. I have a pair of sneakers that looks as if it gives about 1.25" but is acutally only .75", a pair of casuals that looks .5" but actually gives 7/8", and a pair of runners that looks 1" but gives .75"
Editor Rob
I used to have the Sneakers page on here, and have looked at a lot of of them over the years, although there is always room for error in estimates if you haven't measured a specific model.

I've had to look and measure a lot of them so I can try to be reasonable especially with celebrities I've seen.
Canson said on 9/May/18
@Tunman: yea for Barkley he claimed 6’4 6’4.5 or 6’4.75 or 6’5. the measurement at the 92 Olympics was 6’4 5/8. Not sure when that measurement was (time of day) but I’ll be fair and say he was also on the heavy side back then so not sure how much height he lost in a day. I do believe he measured 6’4.75 as well and that he would easily clear 6’5 out of bed. A lot of teammates such as Joe Klein and Moses Malone have called him 6’4 and then other teammates such as Ainge And Mo Cheeks called him 6’4 1/2 or 6’4/6’5 while Dan majerle said he’s “maybe 6’5”, probably 6’4”. I can almost rule out a flat 6’4 or even a hair over with that but 6’4.5 at a low is possible meaning closer to 6’5 (6’4.5-6’5) for the entire morning possibly.

As for Boris, he can look 6’2 range with Jaime Foxx and 6’3 at other times. Then at times he can look 6’3.5 or 6’4, even perhaps over. But like you said not all pictures are good. Looking at him with Charles Barkley and Kobe Bryant and Cam newton, 3 guys who are closer to their listed heights here (all within maybe 1/4” at peak), he looks 6’3”. While Kobe and Cam look probably 195ish today, Barkley at his age looks closer to 6’4” at times than 6’5” which wouldn’t surprise me considering he’s also had hip replacement
Andrea said on 9/May/18
Haysbert I think could be closer to 6'3 today, maybe 6'3.5, but he certainly can't be 6'4 if Boris himself is tall as that as he does look comfortably taller than him. But yeah, Boris can certainly look over 6'4 at times if certain celebrities are really as tall as listed. Just to give one (of the many possible) example(s), I still have hard time to believe that a guy like Tyler Perry is even a mm taller than Boris: Click Here Now, it is true that we can't see their footwear in that scene, but even giving Tyler the benefit of doubt that he has say half an inch less footwear (and I doubt it can be more than that, considering that if you look at his other scenes in the movie he's wearing slippers that won't give much less than 2 cms) still doesn't explain how Boris looks "so much" taller than him. I mean, if anything, their listings should be reversed...
That being said, 192-3 is certainly within the realms of possibility for Boris, but overall I would say that he could be anywhere around 6'4, be it a fraction over or under (which is certainly harder to say). But 6'3? That's a big joke.
Andrea said on 8/May/18
I wouldn't have because Cam's stance is completely different than Kobe's, but I don't expect you to understand something like that, Christian.
And as expected, you called camera angles/positions/etc. an excuse because you don't even know what I'm talking about, which is funny, considering that you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives. Like you did there. It's funny that you complain about that picture when you posted a pic like this: Click Here A picture where Cam is clearly closer to the camera, in order to make Boris shorter than he is. If that doesn't expose your hypocrisy, I don't know what it does.
And there you go again, misunderstanding things and jumping to conclusions. I've NEVER said that you and Canson submitted multiple and/or lowest possible votes. Are you able to read, at least a little? My accusations were actually levelled against one poster alone. And although I have no proof of what I'm saying, I'm pretty sure about that. Just like I was pretty sure about that argument we had about Ray Fisher's page, even if I had no proof (before Rob retrieved all the older comments). Btw, didn't your parents ever tell you not to tell lies as a child? 😊
P.S. Canson, you are so dumb, LOL.
Canson said on 8/May/18
@Andrea: nope. I will never spam Emojiis like a teenage girl like you do just because you think that you are making someone look bad in front of others which is what you do. But that shouldn’t surprise me because you aren’t very mature seeing as how Viper and I both completely stopped talking to you and Viper even ignoring you and you still continue to attack us. I guess we made a huge enough impression on you though. And for you to say that I wouldn’t believe Rob if he met him, if he does look it with Rob then I would accept it. On the other hand, you would “Run away from this site out of embarrassment and disappointment” if he wound up only being 6’3”. That’s childish there but I wouldn’t expect anything less from you. Same with your excuses and crap like you like to call others on. I can see you “accusing Rob of wearing lifts” with Khodjoe just like you did with Jamie Foxx as an excuse. Or it would be that Rob made a mistake by underestimating him or something was wrong with the picture. These are all things that you have done so please don’t sit here and accuse me of the same bullsh*t you do
Canson said on 8/May/18
@Andrea: you just validated what Christian and I said about you having to run to Rob and solicit his opinion. To his credit, Rob doesn’t know about the footwear. He didn’t say that there is no advantage. He admitted that he didn’t know. And Christian and I have both owned canvas shoes and other sneakers. Not to mention he and I aren’t the only ones that have said that Boris has a footwear advantage in the picture. However, we all know if They were to switch shoes, that Kobe would “have a footwear advantage” according to you and it would be a fact. And Of course it’s “my opinion” when it does not support your narrative but a “fact” when it does which is why nobody here takes anything you say seriously. You just act entitled and everyone is just supposed to agree with and bow down to you.

@Christian: yep. that’s what Andrea does. He makes statements like that. I said the same that he could be submitting the 6’4+ votes as well. Funny part is he mentions Viper is “quite active on this page”. That’s odd because Andrea not only has far more activity than Viper, but Viper has not even been that active on Celebheights recently let alone this page. He was more active on Merriman’s page than here.
Tunman said on 8/May/18
He could even look over 6'4 with someone like Haysbert.As for Barkley,well,he could often look a solid 6'5 or even over but I just rule it out.I mean the dude claimed 6'4 though he's obviously rounding down.Did also claim 6'4 5/8 and 6'4.75" which is much more likely.Could it be after a game?maybe or maybe not.The same could be said of Kobe.Just some humble guys like Padalecki(whom Rob met and said was no more than 6'4 compared to McPartlin).Think of Kilborn,Momoa,or Parrack.
On the same way take a Nathan Fillion and dudes like Will Smith or even Matthew Fox,again I would bet the former would edge the two others if Rob ever meets them.
Back to Boris 192-3 is the most reasonable guesses.Must say there is still some situations like with Tyson Beckford where he looks 6'4 tops but possibly slightly under.Again pics aren't always reliable but I feel he could have decent posture at times
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 7/May/18
@Andrea

At least I appreciate that you finally acknowledged the fact that Cam isn't gaining any height from his knee. If I didn't mention the fact that Alfie Allen's stance was different than that of Cam's or Kobe's, you would've probably gone the "Cam was gaining height by going up on one foot" route, like you tried to do with Kobe.
And as expected, you once again complained about camera angles/positions, footwear and ground level. It's funny to see that you're so strict on camera angles/positions, footwear and ground level when you posted a pic like this Click Here This exposes your hypocrisy and also proves that you tried to use that pic to make Boris as tall as, if not taller than Cam.
And if you accuse me and Canson and others of submitting the lowest possible votes, I could easily turn around and say that you submit the highest ones. I never voted 6'2". I did vote 6'3" once because that's how tall I see him as. And maybe there are visitors that just see Boris as being shorter than 6'4" so they voted based on how tall they think he his, have you ever thought that? Don't accuse people of doing something which you have no proof of. Didn't your parents ever tell you that as a child? LOL
Canson said on 7/May/18
@Andrea: Michael Jordan is taller than Boris Khodjoe. Sure the pic isn’t the best but look at how Boris stacks up to Kobe and Barkley. So why is the pic with Rick Fox any better than this one when we can all clearly tell Fox isn’t standing straight? Whether you want to admit it or not, he isn’t. And Both Kobe and Chuck are similar in height at their peak. Barkley measured 6’4 5/8 and Kobe was measured 6’4 3/4. There is a better chance that Barkley is not as tall as he was at his peak being 55 years old today and in the physical condition he is in such as being obese and having had a hip replacement. If you watch the way that he walks, you could tell. Even if you argue that Jordan is 195cm (He was measured 6’4.5 when he was drafted), that still puts Boris at 6’3”, which is just how he looks with Kobe or Barkley. However, knowing you, you will do anything to diminish the height difference. Of course you not only make an excuse about Kobe’s stance but also that Boris does not have a footwear advantage when it is a fact that he does. Just because you either are not aware of footwear differences or are just playing dumb because you don’t want to admit that Boris can look a solid 6’3” as opposed to 6’4 does not mean that the footwear difference doesn’t exist. You are the first one to say that to Christian or me “Just because you aren’t aware of camera angles etc” yet when someone says it to you, you ignore it and respond back about something else that you “accuse them of doing”. You don’t want to admit when you are wrong. And no 6’3.5 is not the lowest that one could argue. That’s the lowest that you could argue for him. You represent probably 1% of the population on this site so your opinion is not the only one obviously. So nothing you say is a fact. And like Christian said, I also acknowledge that there are photos of Boris looking 6’4” as I’ve also gone on record to say that his height looks all over the place. However, because you are very sensitive about Boris’s height and get very defensive when someone says he looks under 6’4, you will probably turn this around like you always do.
Andrea said on 7/May/18
It is just your "opinion", Canson, that Boris has a footwear advantage over Kobe. Even Rob disagrees with you. Does that mean that he's saying that because it doesn't support his narrative too? LOL Sure, you can always say that it is just his opinion too, but there is a big difference between you and Rob. First of all, he objectively has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you, and second of all, he is not biased, unlike you.
As for Rick Fox, first of all, Rick is obviously losing much more height in that picture compared to the other one. If Rick is standing straight there, like you try to say, then he's busting a gut in the other one, LOL. And second of all, Rob met that guy, Zachary Levi, more than once and said that he looked around 6'3. For a guy who seems to base most of his estimates on ALLEGED meetings of people that you don't even know how good are at estimating heights (LOL at you quoting random people from Reddit as some kind of proof), it is a bit surprising to ignore something like that, especially considering that in this case 1) you can be 100% sure that Rob met him because there's even a picture and 2) Rob is very good at gauging height in person. But again, as I said, you also cherry-pick those kind of estimates, so it's not really that surprising. You are so delusional (and biased) that I'm starting to think that if Rob ever met Boris and said that he really looks 6'4 in person, you'd still insist that he's nothing over 6'3, LOL.
And don't worry. I've never got (and I'll certainly never get) angry at you. If anything, I laugh at you and your ignorance (which is truly cringeworthy for a 36 years old man, like you claim to be)!
Canson said on 7/May/18
@Andrea: why do you make statements and accusations like that? Stating that we submit multiple votes? If people do, then they do. I can say the same thing when the avg guess rises. I could easily say that you submit multiple times but I realize that there are others here other than just you. In addition, you come across as a know it all the way you talk to Berta, Christian, and me. I’m going to take a page out of your book and say “Just because you say that Boris is 6’4” does not mean that he is”. That’s your opinion just like you say that it’s my opinion that Boris doesn’t have a footwear advantage on Kobe. However, that is a fact. He does have a clear footwear advantage on him. A canvas shoe is not going to add a full inch in height to anyone whereas the shoes that Boris had in the picture do add about 3 cm just like a pair of Jordan’s. Kobe’s wife Vanessa stated on the twitter page that he’s 6’4.75 barefoot and with a 1.25” sneaker he would be 6’6”. Boris’s shoes are no less than that and could be up to 1.5” as some sneaker add that much. In the picture with Cam Newton, Boris also has a footwear advantage and it is more than just 1/4”. Cam’s shoes add less than 1” to him whereas Boris has a dress shoe on. That’s at minimum a full cm difference.

As far as Kobe’s measurement, how is that any more prone to error than Cam’s? You’ve seen Rob say that errors often occur with large data sets haven’t you? So someone could read out 5113 (like the example he posted) and be 5111. Not to mention there is very little difference between 6’4.75 and 6’5 in terms of appearance. Let’s say if Boris were a strong 6’3 guy. He could be 6’4” out of bed and measure 6’3.25 at a low and have just measured in the AM. My guess is that he’s 1/4” less and to your last post, yes I do believe he looks 6’3”. As I mentioned before Fox is clearly not standing straight. I bet had that been reversed and if Boris were the one not standing straight or if there were some other issue with the picture, you would not say that. If Boris looked several inches shorter than Fox as opposed to 1.5 or 2”, you would’ve completely disregarded the picture all together or you would be preaching to us that “Boris is not standing straight, etc”
Canson said on 7/May/18
@Andrea: why do you make statements and accusations like that? Stating that we submit multiple votes? If people do, then they do. I can say the same thing when the avg guess rises. I could easily say that you submit multiple times but I realize that there are others here other than just you. In addition, you come across as a know it all the way you talk to Berta, Christian, and me. I’m going to take a page out of your book and say “Just because you say that Boris is 6’4” does not mean that he is”. That’s your opinion just like you say that it’s my opinion that Boris doesn’t have a footwear advantage on Kobe. However, that is a fact. He does have a clear footwear advantage on him. A canvas shoe is not going to add a full inch in height to anyone whereas the shoes that Boris had in the picture do add about 3 cm just like a pair of Jordan’s. Kobe’s wife Vanessa stated on the twitter page that he’s 6’4.75 barefoot and with a 1.25” sneaker he would be 6’6”. Boris’s shoes are no less than that and could be up to 1.5” as some sneaker add that much. In the picture with Cam Newton, Boris also has a footwear advantage and it is more than just 1/4”. Cam’s shoes add less than 1” to him whereas Boris has a dress shoe on. That’s at minimum a full cm difference.
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Christian: Jordan also has a 6’4 1/2 measurement. But I agree with you
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Andrea: there is no proof That he is a full 6’3 and you can obviously tell that Fox is standing straight in this pic vs the one with Khodjoe
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Christian: well said! It’s the opposite of “it would make Rick Fox 6’4.5, or Dennis Haysbert 6’2” etc. you know the poor pics that we have to agree with Andrea on or else he will get angry
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Andrea: he had a footwear advantage with Kobe as well. Of course you won’t admit that. But that doesn’t surprise me. IT DOESNT SUPPORT YOUR NARRATIVE. And just because you say he doesn’t have the advantage doesn’t make it fact. Yes you are getting old


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Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 5/May/18
@Tunman

That's more than a full inch of difference between Boris and Barkley. It's a solid 1.5" if not 1.75"
Andrea said on 5/May/18
"Average Guess means nothing, berta. And this is one of the many cases that prove it. Also, remember that viper is quite active on this page... I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. 😉"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. 😊
Editor Rob
Unfortunately I can't, I decided not long ago to alter it so that the aggregate vote is retained, but individual votes are not...so nobody will ever find out what people voted.
Andrea said on 5/May/18
Well, Tunman, it also depends on how tall Barkley really is as he can often look over 6'5...
I can't completely rule out something like 192, but he generally does look taller than that, and more of a genuine 6'4 than the majority of celebrities listed at the same mark (or over) here!
Andrea said on 5/May/18
No, you couldn't, Christian. The fact that you put Cam's and Kobe's stances in the same category proves that you don't even know what I'm talking about. In Kobe's case, in fact, there are certainly grounds for that, and in any case, I've always given Kobe the benefit of doubt that he is NOT gaining any height by doing that because the photo is shot from a high angle and it's hard to say if he really is raising his foot or not. In Cam's case, I'd safely rule that eventuality out because it's a totally different stance and you can certainly tell he's not gaining any height there.
As for those guys you have mentioned, those estimates simply come from your delusional speculation about their postures (like in Cam's and Kobe's case) and/or bad photos where Boris has a noticeable disadvantage (like in The Game's and Michael Jai White's case). It is not surprising that you call those things an excuse though, because, as I said, you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc. And you keep proving it by bringing up pictures like those. Again. According to that "logic", I could easily make a case for a 6'5 (or over) Boris, but I don't because, unlike you, I'm well aware of them. Also, the only guy who was truly "officially" measured is Cam Newton. And maybe Kobe, although that 6'4.75 figure does come from her wife, so there's always a room for an error. A guy like Charles Barkley wasn't measured at 6'4 5/8, but that figure was simply mentioned in ONE article and there's nothing official about that. If you want to believe he got measured at that mark, you're perfectly entitled to do so, but don't come here and speak of it as if it was a fact because it's not. As for Michael Jordan, I wonder how you calculated that difference, considering that there isn't any good picture of them together. I assume this is the picture you're referring to when you basically say that Michael looks 1.5-2 inches taller than Boris: Click Here First of all, I dare anyone to tell any height difference between them from a picture like that. And second of all, I could post this other photo of them Click Here , which, btw, is a much better photo than the other one angle-wise, and say that Boris is taller than Michael, but I don't because 1) you can't see the footwear, the ground level and the way they're standing, JUST LIKE THE OTHER ONE and 2) I highly doubt he's taller than Michael because it doesn't fit with how he generally looks next to the other people.
Tunman said on 5/May/18
Too bad we don't have very good pics with Barkley as he could hover from looking very close to nearly 2" smaller.Would have thought a full inch of difference though.Maybe 192-92,5 is better but up to everyone to give his own guessesClick Here
berta said on 5/May/18
he is a tall guy i think 6 foot 4 ish is a good estimate for this guy.But the average makes me think he could be 192 guy. there is not often the average guess is almost 1 inch off
Andrea said on 4/May/18
Pff. You're getting old, Canson. Your next "argument" will be that Boris wears lifts, LMFAO. Btw, just because you think (or you try to convince yourself) that Boris has footwear advantage over those guys you have mentioned doesn't make it a fact. The only occasion where he really seems to have a "noticeable" footwear advantage (meaning at least 1/4 inches or over) is in those photos with Cam Newton. And there's more than one occasion where Boris even has some footwear disadvantage, like next to Chi McBride: Click Here Click Here Click Here
As for Rick Fox, there isn't more than 1.5 inches between them and that's taking into account Rick's posture (otherwise it would be even less than that) and this video Click Here . Here's a guy who truly is 6'3 (or in any case near enough that mark) with the same Rick: Click Here Rick is leaning a lot more with him, but he still looks noticeably taller next to him than how he does next to Boris. Are you really trying to say that Boris would be as low as him (6'3)? LOL
Chrstian-6'5 3/8 said on 3/May/18
@Andrea

I could tell that Alfie Allen was going up on his left foot just by his stance, even if no one ever told me. His stance was different than Cam's and Kobe's.
And if Boris was really 6'4" (which I'm not saying it's impossible but I highly doubt), by that same token Cam would be about 6'5.5"-6'6" (despite being measured 6'5"), Kobe would be 6'5.75" (despite being measured 6'4.75"), Charles Barkley would be 6'5.5"-6'5.75" (despite being measured 6'4 5/8"), Michael Jordan would be about 6'5.5"-6'6" (despite being measured 6'4 7/8") John Isner would be 6'10.5", The Game would be at least about 6'4.5", Michael Jai White would be about 6'1.5", among others.
But of course, you'll make every excuse in the book about those guys, whether it be camera angles, footwear, "gaining up on one foot", or that I have "no clue about height differences".
Canson said on 3/May/18
Rick Fox is clearly leaning with Boris and we cannot see their footwear. That’s more than just a 1.5” difference between them
Canson said on 3/May/18
I can see Padalecki edging Boris. How much is unknown but I’ve seen pics with Jared in thinner footwear in pics with other celebs. I have yet to see a pic where Boris has a footwear disadvantage with another celebrity. Instead, He generally has the footwear advantage including the pics with Kobe, Cam Newton, Wayne Brady to name a few
Canson said on 3/May/18
I can see Padalecki edging Boris. How much is unknown but I’ve seen pics with Jared in thinner footwear in pics with other celebs. I have yet to see a pic where Boris has a footwear disadvantage with another celebrity. Instead, He generally has the footwear advantage
Andrea said on 2/May/18
Like I said... 😊
A couple of things. I never said that bending your knees makes you taller, but I said that going up on one foot makes you taller, which is a bit different. The fact that someone's knee is bent can be a direct consequence of that sometimes. Look at Alfie Allen here: Click Here You would probably say he's dropping some height in that picture, but he is not, and in fact he's even gaining a bit more height than normal! As for Boris, I've never said that there's no way he can be below 6'4. I've always said that something like 6'3.5 (the absolute lowest I can see him at) isn't 100% impossible, but if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity he appeared with needs a major downgrade (and some already do, if he's only 6'4 flat)! Although I can't completely rule it out, I see something like 6'3.5 for Boris as likely as 6'3.5 for a Jared Padalecki. Quite unlikely, but not 100% impossible. Put it that way. What I COMPLETELY rule out is 6'3. And you know why? Because that would make that would make Rick Fox no more than 6'4.5, Kim Coates no more than 5'10-5'11, Wayne Brady a weak 5'10, AJ Calloway no more than 6'-6'1 (hence Jared no more than 6'3), Casper Van Dien no more than 5'8 (hence Rob no more than 5'7), Wentworth Miller barely over 5'11, Dennis Haysbert not much more than 6'2, Chi McBride not much more than 6'3, Tyler Perry no more than 6'3, John Cena barely over 5'11, that 6'3 1/8 MEASURED guy nothing over 6'2, etc. I'm sorry if can't see them that low (especially those ones that Rob has met and that I doubt he would overestimate by an inch or over).
P.S. The only person that you keep making look like a buffoon is yourself, when you come out with comments like those. What's even funnier is that you don't even realize that. That's fine, though. I won't burst your bubble. You are the best, Christian! 👍👍👍
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 1/May/18
@Andrea

Don't lecture me about what distorted angles are when you apparently don't even know what the definition of "distorted" is. According to the Merriam Webster dictionary: "the act of twisting or altering something out of its true, natural, or original state." The camera angle in your pic was distorted because the angle was shot from near the ground instead of straight ahead, which visually alters the actual height difference of Boris and Cam.
And like I said, I still would've called the pic out if Cam looked 3" taller than Boris, so I don't know what you mean by "convenient for my narratives".
And I already acknowledged that Cam was standing a bit closer. And that was the closest to accurate angle pic I could find, which is much more accurate angle-wise than yours. I'm not trying to make him seem taller.
And if both of them had their eye's straight ahead, Cam would've still had a higher eyelevel than Boris. Btw, Boris' knee isn't bent to the point where he's losing height, and barely any different than the guy on the left. Unlike Cam who's knee is obviously very bent. If anyone has a fetish and an obsession with knees it's you, because you lie by saying that people gain height by bending their knees, which is scientifically impossible. You claimed that Kobe gained height by having his knee bent, which is just utterly ridiculous. And I'm not making up the height difference. If you consider the camera, footwear and postural disadvantages, the difference looks really looks anywhere between 1.5-2". But of course you'll deny it because in your mind, there's no way that Boris can be below 6'4". You're the one who said that you'll never come back to this site out of embarrassment if Boris is proven to be 6'3". On the other hand, I never say that 6'4" is impossible for Boris, it's just very unlikely. But yet I'm the one who can't respect and tolerate other people's opinions? LOL
And "Don't even bother to reply"? What kind of comeback is that? Deep down you know you don't want me to reply back because I keep making you look like a buffoon. Just admit it.
Canson said on 1/May/18
The difference in shoe between Boris and Cam is at least a full cm. The shoes Cam has on in those pictures wouldn’t even add a full inch to his height while Boris is wearing a regular dress shoe that adds 3cm to his height
Canson said on 1/May/18
@Christian: agreed. Cam would edge Boris the same way as Kobe would. Boris was also standing closer to the camera in that picture with Kobe
Andrea said on 1/May/18
Distorted angle? LOL Do you even know what an angle is? Let me answer for you. Obviously not. As I said, you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc., but you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives. Like you did there.
And, as totally expected, you posted a picture where Cam is standing closer to the camera to make him taller than he is. Despite that and the fact that he's raising his eyelevel, he still doesn't look much taller than Boris. I can agree about one thing, though. Boris' shoes look a bit thicker than Cam's, maybe 1/4 inches. Apart from that, I don't think their postures are much different. Sure, Boris might have a slightly better posture, but it's not going not make any noticeable difference. And in case you didn't notice (which is a bit surprising for a guy who has a fetish for "bent knees" like you, but not so much surprising for a guy who has hidden agenda like you), Boris' knee is bent as well.
Funny how, according to you, "if everything were equal, Cam would've looked about 2" taller than Boris, at the very worst about 1.5" which "coincidentally" would make Boris as tall as you want him to be (no more than 6'3). And you even have the nerve to come here and accuse me of making excuses? When that's exactly what you (constantly) do? Here we go again. You accusing me of things you're guilty of (like you did with that argument about Ray Fisher's page, which you conveniently disregarded, now that it's been proven to be another lie of yours). You really are hopeless, LFMAO!
P.S. Don't even bother to reply because I'm certainly not going to have another never-ending discussion that leads nowhere. Especially with you!
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 30/Apr/18
@Andrea

It's bad because the pic was taken from a distorted angle, regardless of who looks taller or shorter. If Cam looked 3 inches taller than Boris in that pic, I would've still called it out.
And your narrative that Boris is as tall as Cam failed because here's a pic of Cam looking taller than Boris despite Cam having footwear disadvantage. Click Here I know Cam's standing a bit closer to the camera (this is the most camera equal pic I could find of the two) but notice how Cam's has less footwear, his knee is bent, he's leaning a bit more, and his legs are spread wider than Boris', making him appear significantly shorter. If everything were equal, Cam would've looked about 2" taller than Boris, at the very worst about 1.5". But knowing your past, you'll probably make yet more excuses like claiming Cam was gaining height by bending his knee and diminish the footwear difference, which btw you did both of those things with the Kobe and Boris pic.
Canson said on 29/Apr/18
I think Cam would measure under 6’5” later in the day. I used to think he was a legit 6’5” but after seeing how early the measurements take place along with pics with guys like Manning, Roethlisberger, and others, I can see him being similar to Kobe Bryant at 195cm. However, a 6’5” combine measurement, assuming that the timing of the 2011 measurements was similar to other years where it had been around 6 am, means Cam could be as low as 6’4 1/2” in the afternoon. That’s if the 6’5” was an accurate measurement to begin with.
Andrea said on 28/Apr/18
Well, your last comment certainly fits my narrative, Christian. My narrative for which you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc., but you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives.
Why is that angle bad? Is it because you don't like the way Boris shapes up next to Cam? LOL
P.S. I would have let it go, but since you got into this brilliant discussion again... Rob recently retrieved all the older comments for every page now. EVEN RAY FISHER'S. I suggest you to go take a look at it, my dear Pinocchio. 😊
Canson said on 27/Apr/18
@Christian: there are some other pics out there. Cam is for sure taller than Boris

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Canson said on 27/Apr/18
@Christian: yea the difference with Cam and Boris shouldn’t look any different than Boris and Kobe. Kobe and Cam are roughly the same height. Now for Cam a 6’5” morning height at the combine could mean he comes down to 6’4.5 at a low possibly but he looks 195 most of the time. He looked just as tall with Rob gronkowski as Kobe did with Gronk
sulu2018 said on 24/Apr/18
He is listed as 6ft 3.5in almost anywhere else on the web.
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 24/Apr/18
@Andrea

You constantly told me that posting pics with bad camera angles is bad, so why are you posting that one? Is it because it conveniently fits your narrative? And btw, Cam's shoulders are higher than Boris'. Even from that bad angle, I can tell that Boris doesn't look any taller than Cam.
Andrea said on 23/Apr/18
Although we can't see their footwear, he doesn't look any shorter (possibly a bit taller in fact, once you take off Cam's hat) than Cam Newton, who is supposed to have been measured at 6'5 (although he probably is shorter than that as he looked a bit shorter than Kobe in a couple of pictures): Click Here
Andrea said on 23/Apr/18
Junior, 6'3.5 doesn't seem impossible with Kobe, but it does seem too low with everybody else... If he was as low as 6'3.5, that would mean that every celebrity he appeared with needs a major downgrade (and some already do, if he's only 6'4 flat)!
Canson said on 19/Apr/18
@Junior: with Kobe and Barkley, he honestly looks 6’3” flat imho, especially taking into account the footwear advantage he had on Kobe
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 19/Apr/18
I believe 6'3.5" if Boris stand straight although he can look 6'3-6'3.25" with Kobe and Barkley. 6'3.5" literally 191.7cm not a full 192cm so is hugely possible and he don't look only 6'3 with 5'11 Bruce Willis. Added Conan O'brien look the range as Boris to me.
Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Andrea: funny you mentioned The pic Boris has with Kobe to Berta but of course you didn’t post it because it doesn’t support your narrative. And In this pic you can clearly see their footwear in addition to the fact Boris is closer to the camera and wearing a hat.

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Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Andrea: why do you make up stuff like Viper submits votes before he goes to bed or that he’s rigging it? You know, there are pics out there that suggest he is below 6’4 and the one with Kobe is a prime example. He’s not 192cm next to Kobe no matter how much you believe he is. That’s over an inch difference and he has a clear advantage in footwear. Your opinion is respected and you should learn to respect others
Andrea said on 13/Apr/18
Average Guess means nothing, berta. And this is one of the many cases that prove it. Also, remember that viper is quite active on this page... I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. 😉
Yeah, he basically always looks at least 6'4 with every celebrity he appears with. Although you can certainly say that something like 192 is not impossible next to Kobe (if he really is as low as his 6'4.75 listing), even that mark generally does seem too low for him. If he was as low as 192, that would mean that basically every celebrity that appeared with him should be downgraded by a visible amount (and some already should be, if he's only 6'4 flat). I mean, look at him with:
1. 6'1.5 listed Boris Becker: Click Here Click Here Click Here
2. 6'0.5 (6'1 peak) listed Steve Harvey and 6' Tyson Beckford: Click Here With the same Steve Harvey, back in 1998 (so certainly still at his peak height, considering that he was only around 40 back then): Click Here
3. 6'5.5 listed Kevin Durand: Click Here Click Here
4. 6'1 listed Oded Fehr: Click Here Click Here
5. 6'6 listed Rick Fox: Click Here Click Here
6. 6' listed James Van Der Beek: Click Here
7. 6' listed Kim Coates: Click Here
8. 6'7.5 listed Magic Johnson: Click Here Click Here
9. 6'1 listed Brian J White: Click Here
10. 5'11 listed Wayne Brady: Click Here
11. 6'4 listed Henry Simmons: Click Here
12. 5'10.75 listed Tyrese Gibson: Click Here
13. 6'1.5-6'2 range AJ Calloway: Click Here The same AJ with Jared: Click Here
14. 5'9.25 listed Casper Van Dien: Click Here
15. 5'11-6' range Dr. Oz: Click Here
16. 6'0.5 listed Wentworth Miller: Click Here
17. 6'4 (6'4.5 peak) listed Dennis Haysbert: Click Here Click Here
18. 6'3 range Nigel Barker: Click Here
19. 6'3 range Jerome Boateng: Click Here
20. 6'3 1/8 MEASURED Damien Woody: Click Here
21. 196 listed Dustin Brown: Click Here The same Dustin with Andy Murray: Click Here Click Here
22. 6'4.5 listed Chi McBride: Click Here And Boris even seems to be in less footwear than Chi: Click Here Click Here With the same Chi, back in 2000s (when Chi was only just over 40, so I doubt he had already lost anything by then): Click Here
23. 6'0.5 listed John Cena: Click Here
24. 6'4.25 listed Tyler Perry: Click Here
25. 6'4.75 listed James Avery (in his late 50s): Click Here
viper said on 11/Apr/18
I always thought he was like 6-2-6-3 before I even knew his height.
Canson said on 11/Apr/18
@Berta: he really does look closer to the average here than his listed height here on CH with 6’4.75” Kobe Bryant given he also has a footwear advantage over Kobe. The most I could argue in that pic is 6’3” flat.

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berta said on 9/Apr/18
average guess seems strange he always looke in the 6 foot 4 range.
Canson said on 31/Mar/18
@Viper: Looking at him with other celebs. He can look under but peak may be a full 6’4”. As for Boris I’ve never seen them together
viper said on 30/Mar/18
What makes you think hes under 6-4
Andrea said on 30/Mar/18
That's a totally random and non-sense statement...
Canson said on 29/Mar/18
@Viper: my apology. Cress looks 6’3.5ish more than 6’4
Canson said on 29/Mar/18
@Viper: and Cress isn’t even a legit 6’4” listed here 6’3.5 I think
viper said on 28/Mar/18
He doesn't look as tall as a 6-4 guy like Cress Williams.
Canson said on 13/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5: another one to add that you may know is Brandon Roy. I’m about an inch shorter than him too
Andrea said on 13/Mar/18
Well, Canson, although I agree that Merriman's height can really look all over the place at times, I can't say the same for Boris. In fact, Boris basically always looks at least 6'4 with every celebrity he appears with, although there are definitely a very few occasions where you can argue that a fraction under 6'4 is not impossible for him (like that picture with Kobe)... As for Idris, the absolute lowest I'd ever try to argue between them is 3 cms, but to be honest, in that movie they did together he really could look anywhere between 1.5-2 inches shorter than Boris...
Canson said on 12/Mar/18
@Andrea: at a low if he’s 6’4” flat we would be about identical in appearance as im down to 6’4.25 most days. You’re right we would be hard to tell difference. I had a feeling he would edge Merriman but not sure now who would be taller. Merriman looks all over the place. Boris too but not to that Extent. As for Elba, Boris had him by maybe 2-3cm at times at others could look 1/2” or so
Andrea said on 11/Mar/18
As I said, I strongly disagree about that, but you're certainly entitled to believe whatever you want, Canson... 😊
To be fair, I've never ruled out a fraction under 6'4 (which can certainly be argued next to Kobe), but, considering that he generally looks at least 6'4 next to everyone else, I certainly wouldn't give him any less than that. I mean, even at 192 (rather than 193), if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity that appeared with him should be downgraded by a visible amount (and some already should be, if he's only 6'4 flat). Let alone 6'3 (or under)!
That being said, who knows, maybe one day you'll meet him and see how tall he "really" is by yourself. If you really are around 194 like you say, I'm sure he would be very close to you (like within half an inch)...
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 11/Mar/18
appear taller*
Canson said on 10/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5: it’s tough to gauge but with Manning Kobe can look the about same height but the thing is Manning had multiple neck surgeries during his career I believe 4. But Manning which is a rarity actually looked 6’5.25 at his peak or maybe 196cm flat. My guess is that Manning May have lost some height though as he looks shorter than JJ Watt or Draymond Green. Manning may be hovering around 6’5” or a hair under these days. While Watt actually can look close to his drafted height Green looks more 6’5 or 6’5 1/4 than 6’5.75. Also saw where Steve Kerr calls him 6’5 as does Carmelo Anthony and Alvin Gentry his former assistant coach called him “closer to 6’5” than 6’6”. Not to mention the former assistant GM said Green was the 3rd shortest player on that team behind Curry and Ian Clark. Green to me looks “about” the same with Kobe as he does Manning. But admittedly Kobe can look 6’5 at times too. I think that’s probably his low for the day 6’4.75 and if anything less it’s maybe a mm or two but that’s about all

Another person to add to who I’ve played that was a pro was Jason Maxiell. I know his cousin as well. Maxiell when I saw him wasn’t really much taller than me (I’m 6’4 1/4-.3) prob half inch but now he’s shot up to 6’5 1/2 according to his cousin and what I saw where he was cut from his overseas team for exceeding the height limit of 6’5 (6’5 11/16).
Canson said on 10/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5: it’s tough to gauge but with Manning Kobe can look the about same height but the thing is Manning had multiple neck surgeries during his career I believe 4. But Manning which is a rarity actually looked 6’5.25 at his peak or maybe 196cm flat. My guess is that Manning May have lost some height though as he looks shorter than JJ Watt or Draymond Green. Manning may be hovering around 6’5” or a hair under these days. While Watt actually can look close to his drafted height Green looks more 6’5 or 6’5 1/4 than 6’5.75. Also saw where Steve Kerr calls him 6’5 as does Carmelo Anthony and Alvin Gentry his former assistant coach called him “closer to 6’5” than 6’6”. Not to mention the former assistant GM said Green was the 3rd shortest player on that team behind Curry and Ian Clark. Green to me looks “about” the same with Kobe as he does Manning. But admittedly Kobe can look 6’5 at times too. I think that’s probably his low for the day 6’4.75 and if anything less it’s maybe a mm or two but that’s about all
Canson said on 9/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5: Boris may be closer. Andrea could be right could be 3cm difference. Hard to tell with the hat and the angle. But even at 3cm Boris’s shoe is thicker than Kobe’s. I can’t tell if that’s a boot but even in just a 1” sneaker or 1.25 that could be a 5/8” difference or at worst 1/4”. So if He has the footwear at 1/4” Kobe would be 6’4.75 and he would be about what you have him 6’3 1/4 maybe 6’3 1/3. But that’s prob at least a full cm to call it so 6’3 1/4. Or maybe all thints considered 6’3 flat.
Canson said on 9/Mar/18
@Andrea: I didn’t take into account him gaining additional height either. My thinking based on how they look even if we go 3cm difference in appearance the shoes are different. Boris has an advantage. Maybe 6’2.75 was low and he could be 6’3 imho. 6’3.25 is possible which actually could make sense too because he would be 6’4” out of bed and could’ve gotten an early morning 6’3.75 or even 6’3.5 and rounded up. But he can look 6’4 at times too I agree. His height is all over the place but not as bad as Shawne’s. I agree with you on Idris. Not a flat 6’2 but I think the type of height that Michael phelps or Russell’s westbrook would be. Maybe 6’2.25 up to .5. 189cm. Never met Russ but Phelps I did and he looked around 2” shorter than me. He could be 6’2.5 max but I would’ve guessed 6’2.25-.5. He has a very long torso tho. He didn’t look proportionate at all. Phelps could lose an inch conceivably and be a 191-192cm out of bed.
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 9/Mar/18
@Canson I agree that he looks to be 6'3 1/4" there, especially considering the fact that Boris is slightly closer to the camera there. While Kobe Byrant can admittedly appear than his listing, he also looks to be no more than 6'4 3/4" here by a 6'5 1/4" measured Peyton Manning:

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Another one of my favorite shots would be him by Andy Roddick, a 6'1" listed James Blake (it's hard to say how tall that he is in reality, as I'm not too familiar with him) and a 6'9 3/4" listed John Isner:

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Andy Roddick looks to be about the same as Novak Djokovic (maybe fractionally taller at times), 2 CM taller than Roger Federer, and then 4-4.5 CM taller than Rafael Nadal is. Therefore, Andy Roddick isn't a fraction over 6'2". Considering this, I'd estimate that Boris isn't a full 6'4" there.
Canson said on 9/Mar/18
@Celebheights6’1.5: as far as Rick Fox, he’s more 6’5.5 Based on Rob meeting him. And based on how he looks with Kobe
Canson said on 8/Mar/18
@Andrea: there’s definitely always a chance Boris is under 6’4”. Especially compared to kobe

@Celebheights 6’1.5: Melo was very cool. I actually have met him when he was in high school when he was at Oak Hill. He’s a few years younger than me but I saw him about 2 years ago at a restaurant when he was here. I’ve also played against and seen in person off the court Juan Dixon Steve Blake Jarrett Jack Caron Butler Keith Bogans Joe Forte Kirk Hinrich TJ Ford Delonte West Eddie Basden who played with West at Roosevelt. I’ve played against Eddie Griffin and others as well. I’ve met face to face Harvey Grant Larry Johnson Gheorge muresan Muggsy Bogues Dell Curry. Met Rod Strickland Chris Webber Calbert Cheaney Juwan howard (I was a teen then and wasn’t on even ground when I met them at the game so hard to tell how exactly tall they were) and Charles Barkley I saw from a distance same with Michael Jordan Rip hamilton. However the others I could give a decent estimate.
Andrea said on 8/Mar/18
I completely agree with you about Idris, Canson, just like I completely disagree with you about Boris... 😊
6'2.25 is not impossible for Idris, but that's the probably the lowest I'd argue. Although he can certainly look no more than 6'2 at times, I think he's got to clear the 6'2 mark when he stands at his tallest. How much is the question. 1/4 inch? 1/2 inch? Both of them are pretty arguable, IMO, but 6'2.75 I think is a bit optimistic...
As for Boris, he looks no more than 3 cms shorter than Kobe, and that's taking into account his footwear that doesn't look much different than Kobe's and giving Kobe the benefit of doubt that he's not gaining any height by going up slightly on his left foot... That being said, although you can certainly say that 192 range doesn't seem impossible with Kobe, I certainly wouldn't give him any less than the current listing, considering that he basically looks at least that mark with everyone else and in fact one of the most genuine and solid 6'4 celebrities on here (just like a Jared Padalecki)...
Canson said on 7/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5: some good points you made! My guess for Idris is 6’2.25 maybe 6’2.5. Andrea said may have measured 6’2.5. Could be true and could be 6’2.25 at a low. Boris to me looks at least 1.5 shorter than Kobe and has a footwear advantage. Even if the difference is like 3cm still makes him around 6’3.25 but my guess would be solid 6’3. Strong 6’2” means more like 6’2.25 tho not a flat 6’2”

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Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 6/Mar/18
By the way, since you said that you met Carmelo Anthony down below, how cool was he in person? Is he the only NBA player that you’ve met before?
Andrea said on 6/Mar/18
Well, although you can certainly say that none of them is impossible, there's a lot more chance of Idris being as low as "a strong 6'2" than Boris being below 6'4...
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 6/Mar/18
@Canson While I will agree that Idris Elba does appear to be 6’2” flat by a 6’6 1/4” measured Carmelo Anthony, I highly doubt that he’s only a strong 6’2”. Chris Hemsworth doesn’t appear to be any taller than Idris Elba, and he clears Tom Hiddleston by at least a full inch in Thor. If he was a flat 6’2” like he claimed, then Tom and Chris (along with so many other celebrities) would desperately need to get downgraded quickly. I’ll agree that 6’2 3/4” is possible over 6’3”, but I wouldn’t go any lower than that. Carmelo Anthony has a tendency to make celebrities appear shorter than their listings for some odd reason, as I remember that he made Ashton Kutcher appear as if he was 187 CM tall AT MOST (which we can all agree isn’t physically possible.

As for Boris Kodjoe, I could see him at 6’3 3/4” considering all of the evidence that you’ve posted of him appearing to be under 6’4” below. He frequently doesn’t appear to be as tall as 6’4” by most measured celebrities when the photos aren’t distorted. Especially if you look at the photos of Rick Fox who is listed as 6’7”, which likely means that he’s around 6’6” without shoes since the general rule is that the heights that most players get listed at in the NBA are in shoes + a possible round up. Therefore, I really don’t think that it’s insane to estimate his height as being below 6’4”.
Andrea said on 5/Mar/18
Boris looked comfortably over an inch taller than Idris in that movie they did together, no less than 1.5 inches I'd say...
That being said, I highly doubt that Idris is as tall as 6'3, especially considering that he himself claimed to be 6'2, 6'2.5 and nearly 6'3. Somewhere between 6'2 and 6'3 is believable, but no taller than that. Actually, considering that he came out with such a precise mark as 6'2.5, 6'2.5 would be a more appropriate listing for him (rather than the current 6'2.75 one), IMO...
Canson said on 4/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6’1.5: idris looks just a strong 6’2” to tell you the truth. Look at the pic with Carmelo Anthony and that’s a solid 4” difference. I met Melo and if he isn’t the full 6’6.25 he for sure isn’t less than a solid 6’6” at his low. Boris is likely a flat 6’3” when you factor in Kobe edges him by about 1.5 and Boris has a footwear advantage
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 3/Mar/18
If Idris Elba is really 6’2 1/2” like a lot of people believe (which I don’t, as he looks 6’3” to me) then Boris is 6’3 1/2”.
viper said on 1/Mar/18
Never thought of him as OJ. I thought somebody like Morris Chestnut would have been a way better choice to play OJ than Cuba.
MJKoP said on 28/Feb/18
This guy is currently shooting a movie where he plays OJ Simpson! I guess they can't complain about the actor being too short anymore(*cough, cough* Cuba Gooding Jr.)!
Agent Orange said on 16/Feb/18
@Christian
Hey man if I offended then sorry no hard feelings. I kinda reacted to the negative comments that were circling around at the time.
Andrea said on 14/Feb/18
LOL, sure thing, Christian. Sure thing... You really are hopeless, LMFAO!
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 13/Feb/18
@Andrea

I had a poster troll me quite a few times by the name of Agent Orange. He tried to provoke me by calling me all kinds of weird names and among other things, but I didn’t lash out at him or feed him attention. But a poster trolled you ONCE and you called him retarded. This is the difference between you and I. Yet you imply that I’m the one that insults people for having different opinions? LOL
And the reason Canson said all those things is because he was provoked. It’s due to people making insults towards him first. I don’t necessarily agree with what he said, but I understand it because people were pushing him around and he had to fight back.
Canson said on 13/Feb/18
Hmmm Andrea. Sounds like exactly what you do. Going and resurrecting posts of other people having disagreements with others to try and discredit them. That’s exactly what you did to me. Like Christian said anything that is posted here or anyone who posts here who disagrees with you direct those types of statements toward. Like Christian said, you think you’re “entitled” because some of your estimates ended up being true.funny how you say “there are no pictures of him looking less than 6’4” when there clearly are. You have to resort to diminishing and lying saying things like that when the pics don’t support your narrative just to attempt to prove your point.
Andrea said on 12/Feb/18
(And for the record, I did (indirectly) call one TROLL "mentally retarded", not one poster. Not because he didn't agree with me like you try to say, but because he clearly provoked me by making up things to try to discredit me, just like you're doing now. Maybe I should have ignored him, but I don't regret it because I have zero respect for those kind of "posters". Btw, it's funny how all of this comes from the bff of the guy who hangs out on the site and insults most of the posters who disagree with him by coming out with brilliant statements such as "You probably didn't even graduate high school and sell yourself on the street to make money because it's all your good at.", "You’re a ****ing piece of ****. Why don’t you go to see a therapist." or "IF you are as bad with your job in show biz as you are with estimating height and with your people skills it makes perfect sense why you are an unemployed troll like you are.". I've never seen you criticizing him for that. Hmm... Have I already told you that you're one of the biggest hypocrites I've ever seen?)
Andrea said on 12/Feb/18
Kappa! 😊 👍
Like I said, your comments speak for themselves...
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 11/Feb/18
@Andrea
Lol, no one’s more ignorant than you. All throughout this discussion you acted like a impudent child, saying that people who disagree with your estimates “have no clue about height differences”, and even called one poster “mentally retarded”. If that’s not considered ignorant, then I don’t know what is. I shouldn’t have given you too much importance and attention either. For a person who uses relatively articulate grammar and spelling, you sure are really stupid and uneducated. (at least common sense-wise)
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 10/Feb/18
@Andrea

Lol, no one’s more ignorant than you. All throughout this discussion you acted like a impudent child, saying that people who disagree with your estimates “have no clue about height differences”, and even called one poster “mentally retarded”. If that’s not considered ignorant, then I don’t know what is. I shouldn’t have given you too much inportance and attention either. For a person who uses relatively articulate grammar and spelling, you sure are really stupid and uneducated. (at least common sense-wise)
Canson said on 10/Feb/18
@Andrea: that link on YouTube was completely unnecessary. And you call others childish? Really? You wonder why Christian responds back to you because you provoke him to
Canson said on 10/Feb/18
While I agree that this discussion has gone on too long, I feel that each one of us contributed something negative, including you Andrea, and Including me. Ending it may be a good thing but when you say you’ve reached this point or that point, you’re making it sound as if Christian antagonized this when he didn’t. The things that he is saying back to you are in response to the things that you are telling him. I’m saying that because you said the same things to me as well. To be fair, we don’t agree with you which is why you say what you do and you don’t agree with us which is fine.
Andrea said on 10/Feb/18
Hell, Christian, Click Here ! 😟 To be honest, I'm just done wasting my breath on you. I definitely gave you too much importance and attention. A lot more than what you actually deserve. You clearly don't have the necessary knowledge to understand a lot of things, so I'm done talking to a wall of ignorance. That being said, unfortunately for you, most comments of yours are still here, so I'm sure that any person with half a brain understands who really is guilty of those things you love accusing me of. Your comments speak for themselves. 👍
Goodbye, Christian! 😊
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 9/Feb/18
@Andrea

Not only you’re biased, make excuses, and be a hypocrite, but now you’re being a weak coward. Are you gonna just run away from a discussion just because your little feelings were hurt? I get that this discussion is becoming way too long, but it seems like you ran out of words at this point and your only option is to cop out. I honestly expected it from you.
Andrea said on 7/Feb/18
Rob, since this seems to have become Shawne Merriman's page lately, why don't you just give him a page? 😊
Editor Rob
Well, maybe it would be interesting to see what people guessed him at.

I think half the time he slouches in photos and simply never stands as tall as he can.
Andrea said on 7/Feb/18
Whatever you say, Christian. I was going to reply again, but it's a no brainer that this discussion will never end in this way, so I'll take the lead on this and get out of this stupid and useless discussion. I've reached a point where I really couldn't care less of what you say. You think I'm biased? That's fine. You think I lie? That's fine. You think I make excuses? That's fine. I don't care.
Have a good life!
Canson said on 6/Feb/18
@Checker: I believed you all along the Merriman isn’t as tall as Davis. No need to convince me lol. Andrea is the one who needs it. Look at my post a few days back too. I put up a pic of Dexter Manley and Shawne. Davis looks the same with him as Manley does. I met Manley as a kid and he looked pretty close to my father in height. My dad used to be a legit 6’4” maybe still at worst 6’3.75 today in his late 60s. But I even asked my dad and he said Manley is about 6’3” when we met him back in the late 80s
checker said on 5/Feb/18
Marcus Allen is under 6'2 as I have researched and still looks taller than Merriman. Click Here
checker said on 5/Feb/18
Hey Canson, remember when I told you Ricky Jackson looks 6'1 in person, and not his listed 6'2.

Well Im subscribed to newspapers.com and he was measured at 6'1 back in 1980.
checker said on 5/Feb/18
Canson, dont you think Vernon looks taller here. Click Here

I scoped out that pic to even show Vernon is taller.
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 4/Feb/18
@Canson

I appreciate that and I feel the same about you
Canson said on 4/Feb/18
@Christian: and that’s why I also respect you as a poster more than the majority here
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 4/Feb/18
@Andrea

Like I said before, you love to diminish height differences as much as possible whenever Boris looks under 6'4" in pics. You claimed you weren't an expert when it came to footwear when referring to the Kobe pic, yet you say that Boris had a lot of footwear disadvantage in that pic with Barkley. As for the pic with Jai White, he still looks below 192 in that pic, regardless if you say that it's "useless" or not. And just because Shawne may not look 6'2.4" or less next to many other measured athletes, doesn't negate his 6'2.4" measurement. And whether Couchscout's a "fan site" or not, it contains official measurements and data from the NFL so it's not any less legit than Nfldraftscout. As for Barkley, that 6'4 5/8" is too precise to be just made up. If it was 6'4 1/2", then I can kind of see it, but they wouldn't have come up with 6'4 5/8" unless if he officially measured that. As for Kobe's 6'4.75" measurement, I have no reason to believe it was made up or an error because he did claim 6'4", so that 6'4" claim was a round-down from 6'4.75". Besides, a legit 6'5"+ basketball player wouldn't claim something like 6'4".
And just because Bobby and Mr. R gave some estimates that are hard for you to believe, it doesn't mean that their estimates for Boris are wrong when they met him. Both of them have also given very believable estimates as well, and in this case 6'2.75" and 6'3.25" are both believable for Boris since he looks between those two figures in some pics.
And the difference between Rob and Shilique's posture is that Rob was leaning forward towards the camera in that pic with Naprous, which at times can be tricky to tell how much height is being dropped. Shilique was leaning to the side so it's very clear that he was dropping height. And not again with the "going up on one foot" lie. Goodness Andrea, how many more excuses are you gonna make whenever Boris doesn't look 6'4" in a pic? Nothing in that pic suggest that Kobe's standing on one foot. It's clear as day that both of his feet are directly flat to the ground. This isn't even about personal opinions at this point. This is lying. Sure, it's your own opinion that Boris looks an inch shorter, just like it's my opinion that he looks 4.5-5cm shorter. But to say that Kobe's standing on one foot is a lie because the pic shows otherwise.
And what have I said in my last post anywhere that suggests I need validation and approval? I only brought up Bobby because you were trying to discredit him as a poster just because he gave a couple estimates that you disagreed with. I brought up Mr. R to show your hypocrisy of you calling him credible and genuine when he gave more estimates that you disagree with than Bobby did, yet Mr. R gets a pass because's a long time poster on this site and "isn't arrogant". This is not to disparage him, as I believe that he's a good poster as well. I was just pointing out your double standard. And I obviously wasn't seeking validation from Juggernaut, since my comment was disapproving of him. So I don't know what you're talking about when you said I was seeking validation in my last post. If you're referring to my interaction with Canson, I'm not even seeking any from him either. I just respect him a lot as a poster and we agree on a lot of our estimates of celebs. It doesn't mean I'm seeking any validation from him though.
And you're no better than me, because you accuse others of having no clue about height differences when they have different opinions than you. And at one point, you even called one poster mentally retarded. So actually you're worse than I am. Implying someone's a fanboy or that they want celebs to be taller, is almost hardly insulting compare to that. And I agree that Rob's unbiased and he's an expert on heights and his opinions are significant, but he's still human so he's not perfect, and his opinions aren't absolute facts. And I know that other people constantly run to Rob asking how tall someone is or the height difference between people as well (not only you), but this is only directed towards you, so don't try to pin it on other people and use that "well other people are doing it so it's ok for me to do it" excuse. I however, don't need consensus from others. I only post pics and clips based on my own opinion. It's not to get people to agree with me.
And what you told Ajay is untrue. You're just taking my words out of context like you constantly do. Of course I'm not denying that Shawne looks taller than Vernon in those two pics. What I said was that I believe Vernon's taller than Shawne and that those pics don't reflect the true difference between the two in my opinion. It's no different than you believing that Shawne's only about an inch shorter than Barkley despite based on this pic there's an easy 2" difference between the two. Click Here
Canson said on 4/Feb/18
Shawne Merriman with 6’3” Dexter Manley. Same type of pics as the ones with Vernon Davis and he’s clearly shorter than Manley

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Canson said on 4/Feb/18
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Davis is leaning in both of those pics. Merriman is not taller than him or even as tall.
Canson said on 4/Feb/18
@Andrea: are you really accusing Christian of cherry picking? Ok so what do we say about you making all types of excuses such as “Jamie Foxx possibly having lifts” or you “noticing a footwear difference with Boris and Barkley” but not an obvious difference with Kobe and Boris? And yes of course you agree with or side with tunman and Ajay because they don’t challenge you on anything. If they believe he is 6’4” (only Tunman actually said it not Ajay actually) you will approve because they support your narrative.
Andrea said on 3/Feb/18
Exactly, 'Ajay'. And that is just one of the many pictures (or videos) where Boris looks a solid 6'4, but again Christian loves to disregard inconvenient photos and cherry-pick certain photos that somehow prove his point. I mean, he's the same guy who thinks that Shawne Merriman is around an inch shorter than Vernon Davis, despite two good pictures speaking otherwise: Click Here Click Here And he even has the nerve of calling me biased, LMFAO. I wonder who still takes him seriously, apart from his bff Canson and the rest of the "dream team" he created in these months, of course!
Andrea said on 3/Feb/18
And Juggernaut is definitely not the only guy you've accused of being a fanboy or wanting this or that celebrity taller than they are. You did it with a good number of posters on here. And you did it with me too, before this discussion, on Michael Rosenbaum's page. All of that because you think that your opinions are the only truth and you can't accept that other people disagree with you. And again, what's wrong with asking Rob his opinion about height differences and celebrities' heights? First of all, he's the top man in this field, whether you like it or not. He's been running a height site for over 13 years and he objectively has more knowledge about it than anybody else, so his opinion means something. And, unlike someone else, he's not biased. Second of all, everybody constantly asks him questions. Every day. Why do you think is that? I don't think it's because they need consensus or people agreeing with them. Besides the fact that, once again, you're hypocrite, considering that I've seen you asking Rob similar questions in the past. So according to your fuc*ed up "logic", you too, you need consensus and people agreeing with you, which is already quite clear by other actions and comments of yours, btw.
And don't worry. Those posters that I respect and appreciate have a brain (have you ever heard about it?), so I'm sure they do realize who is the big fool on here! 😉👍
Andrea said on 3/Feb/18
Just because you're not very well versed in height differences doesn't mean that it's not true what I said, Christian. At worst, he looks 6'3.5 next to Barkley, Kobe, Dirk Nowitzski and John Isner. As for Michael Jai White, we've already been there. Michael has a huge camera advantage over Boris there and it's a quite useless picture, but I'm not surprised that you bring it up again. It just goes to show your unawareness of camera camera angles, camera positions and camera advantages, again. What is not true is that all those guys you have mentioned have been measured. Shawne's 6-2.4 measurement isn't less reliable than the other 6'4 3/8 measurement, apart from the former appearing only on a "fan site", like CouchScout seems to be. And that 6-2.4 figure certainly seems too low next to many other MEASURED athletes... As for Barkley, that 6'4 5/8 figure is just a mention in one article, which says that Charles "was more like 6'4 5/8 than 6'6", so I don't see how you can say that he was measured at that mark. As for Kobe, although he may well be 6'4.75 at his lowest (and that's certainly the lowest I'd buy), me too, I would like Kobe's wife to measure a few other athletes... That being said, you want to see Boris next to a measured person? Here you go: Click Here This guy was measured at 6'3 1/8 at one point: Click Here
As for Bobby, your point was "all of his estimates seem very believable if you see those celebs standing next to others in pics". That's not true because the way Boris looks with Kim certainly doesn't fit with what he said. And that's not the only estimate of his that is hard to believe. Bobby also guessed Derek Mears at "6 3.5 ish", which certainly seems a bit unlikely, to say the least, when you see him with the same Jared and Adam Baldwin. In fact, I highly doubt that Derek is anything under 6'4.5... And again, I called Mr. R a genuine poster because I think that he's truthful when he says he has met this or that celebrity. This doesn't mean that all of his estimates are perfect, though. Many of them are in fact a bit hard to believe. This doesn't make him a bad poster, though. I still respect him a lot because, unlike someone else, he's never arrogant when he gives his estimates. And for the record, Mr. R also guessed Henry Simmons at 6'3 AND Tyler Perry close to 6'5. The funny thing is that both Boris and Henry look more solid 6'4 ers than the same Tyler in that movie they did together...
As for Shilique's picture, Shawne's legs seem spread wider apart and he also seems to have a more relaxed posture than Shilique there, which leads me to believe that he's dropping more height than him. But yeah, I'm sure that it's clear that Shilique's losing more height than Shawne, just like it was clear that Rob was losing more height than Daniel Naprous, right? LOL As for Kobe, he's standing better than Boris there and I'm also giving him the benefit of doubt that he's not gaining any height by going up on one foot, which is certainly not impossible, considering that, like you said yourself, one of his legs seems bent...
And the fact that you always need to mention other posters, like you did in the last post, certainly makes it hard to believe that you don't need validation or approval from anyone... And who are you fooling? It's clear as day that the only reason why that amazing discussion with Rampage ended is because you realized that you were making too many enemies at that point and you decided to use him against me and pretended to take his side against me in my old discussions with him. Even the way you suck up to him in your last post, by saying that he doesn't act immature or like an entitled brat, unlike me, goes to prove my point. You must be really desperate. After everything you told him in the past... Desperate and hypocrite. And the only reason why this discussion has "escalated" so much is because, as I said, I don't take crap from anyone, especially from a know-it-all guy like you who thinks he's such a big shot, but he's clearly not. As for me saying that I'd bet all of my money on Boris being comfortably taller than 6'3, I have already told you why. I have certainly seen enough to completely rule out 6'3, hence why I'd bet all of my money on that (if you rule out the possibility of every other celebrity he appeared with being noticeably shorter than their listings, of course). You want to call me arrogant for that? Go ahead. I call it confidence. The reason why I brought up the fact that many celebrities turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them was to show that it is not true what you said about the fact that you can't accurately gauge celebrities' heights unless you meet them in person. If you see enough of them and possibly pictures or videos next to people whose heights are pretty much confirmed (like those people that Rob has met, which in Boris' case are Rick Fox, Kim Coates, Casper Van Dien and Wentworth Miller), you can get a very good idea of their height and rule out certain ranges with certainty.
Canson said on 3/Feb/18
@Ajay: then a pic with Michael Jordan, Jamie Foxx or Kobe Bryant reinforces that he’s not 6’4”. Nobody truly knows to be honest.
Ajay said on 2/Feb/18
What's with this insanity in the comments section? You guys have been arguing for at least a year now over his height from what I recall. By the way Christian, that pic you posted with Haysbert just enforces the idea that Boris is a solid 6'4
Canson said on 2/Feb/18
@Christian: notice 6’3.25 too? That’s closer to 192 than the 6’3 estimate that Checker said was his max he could be. Andrea also used his estimate with Magic as “proof” because “Viper” was used to underestimating people in the past that Boris may be 6’4” before he provided that now he’s all of a sudden not a credible poster. Then you have Bobby who guessed him max 6’2.75. Both Bobby and Checker/Viper guessed him below what Mr R did. So what I’m reading and probably everyone else that has seen the posts is that the further away someone is from 6’4 or 192cm that the more “ridiculous” and less “credible” the person is. And it’s even worse when the person has responded back to Andrea or disagreed with him (Bobby never did that). Notice how Andrea simply disagreed with Mr R and Junior when they guessed him 6’3.25 nor did he include him in his last post to you about people who don’t take him seriously and think he is full of crap. Those two in addition to Bobby didn’t respond back to him. However Bennett and Viper (in addition to you and I) have all responded back, challenged, and called him out. Instead it was you me Bennett and Viper and only because us three didn’t agree with him (he didn’t mention Bobby3342 because he’s never had any interaction with him). Instead he put him in the same category as Mr. R not being credible because he’s guessed a few celebs “out of alignment with what he believes”.
Canson said on 2/Feb/18
@Christian: that shouldn’t be very surprising coming from Andrea. This is the same person going around claiming that Foxx wears lifts. Any pic where Boris doesn’t look 6’4 doesn’t count as a “picture” or as evidence as there is something wrong with it. And because he thinks they are bad (actually doesn’t want to believe are adequate) then it automatically makes it a fact. Yet when he looks it in a different pic that may have the same issue it’s the opposite yet still a fact to him because he wants to believe it

As far as Mr R., his estimates were more reliable (emphasis on the word more) until he estimated Boris at “a little over 6’3”. You’ll see below in one of his posts where Andrea then brings to light all of the bad guesses he’s made over the years to discredit him as a poster and disqualify his estimate on Boris
Canson said on 2/Feb/18
@Christian: that shouldn’t be very surprising coming from Andrea. This is the same person going around claiming that Foxx wears lifts. Any pic where Boris doesn’t look 6’4 doesn’t count as a “picture” or as evidence as there is something wrong with it. And because he thinks they are bad (actually doesn’t want to believe are adequate) then it automatically makes it a fact. Yet when he looks it in a different pic that may have the same issue it’s the opposite yet still a fact to him because he wants to believe it
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 2/Feb/18
@Andrea

That's certainly not true when you said Boris never looks under 192. He looks under it with many people other than just Akon and Jamie, such as 6'2.4" measured Shawne Merriman, 6'4 5/8" measured Charles Barkley, 6'4.75" measured Kobe Bryant, 6'11" Dirk Nowitzski, 6'9.75" listed John Isner, 5'8" listed Usher (although he looks taller in a different pic), 6'0.5" listed Michael Jai White (even the pic you posted he looks a bit under 192)
And so just because Bobby guessed one or two celebs off, that qualifies him as a bad guesser? Yet you called Mr. R a credible and genuine poster when he guessed like 5 different celebs off? To be fair, he did guess Boris as 6'3.25" in person so I doubt he's that bad of a guesser. Now I understand that Bobby's estimates for the most part seem believable based on my OPINION, but so is your 6'4" estimate for Boris, it's simply an OPINION.
And it's totally laughable how you say Shawne's dropping more height than Shilique. First of all, you can't see his legs, so why do you jump to conclusions that he was dropping leg height? Yet Kobe visibly had one of his knees bent in the pic with Boris, but you say he's not dropping height because of that and if anything he's gaining height?? Click Here Time and time again, you just prove my point when I say that you're biased and like to pick and choose what fits your narrative. Btw, it's clear that Shilique's losing more height than Shawne in the upper body because it's visible, unlike the legs.
And I don't need anyone to be on my "team" really. I don't need validation or approval from anyone. And besides, what's the point of me trying to get Rampage into my "team" when he never even had arguements with you on Boris' page? The reason why Rampage's discussion with me ended is because unlike you, he didn't act immature or like an entitled brat. Now I didn't like the fact that he said I sucked at estimating height, but I felt he was just expressing his brutally honest opinion. I've had many disagreements with many different posters in the past, but the majority of them didn't escalate so much because those people didn't quite act like the way you did. Sorry, but nothing's more arrogant and egotistic than saying that you'll bet all of your money if Boris turned out to be 6'3", or that if he turned out to be 6'3" you'll never show up to this site again due to embarrassment, or that because almost all of your estimates for celebs turned out to be true when Rob met them, that it's going to be the case for Boris as well.
And the only time I imply that people are fanboys is when they give impossible estimates, when Juggernaut said Brock Lesnar's 6'2.75" which is impossible since he was measured 6'2.25" at the NFL draft. Or when posters were saying Barkley's 6'6" or 6'6"-6'7" which is impossible since he was measured 6'4 5/8". If people dislike me over that, then that's their own issue. And you claim that you don't need consensus or people agreeing with you, but your actions say the opposite when you've ran to Rob many many times asking him how tall a celeb is or the height difference between celebs. (and you've been doing this for years) I won't be surprised at all if the posters you "respect" and "appreciate" already see you for what you really are, but they just don't speak out about it yet. Let's be real, you've made yourself look like a big fool throughout this discussion.
Canson said on 2/Feb/18
@Andrea: re: the end of your response to Christian, the feeling is very mutual between us.
checker said on 1/Feb/18
What are the 2 pics where Vernon looks taller than Merriman. The one had Vernon almost cut off from the camera, lol.

And James Vanderbeek is around 5'10-5'11. He looked it on Dawsons Creek with 6'0 John Wesley Shipp.

Andrea, thats bare minimum 1 to 2 inches between Merriman and Shilique. If Shilique had the same posture as Merriman he would be looking 2+ inches taller.
Andrea said on 1/Feb/18
Tunman, I think he looks more 6'4 than many guys listed at the same mark on here, just like Jared Padalecki. Although 192 range certainly doesn't seem impossible next to Kobe and Barkley (if they are as low as their 6'4.75 listings), he generally looks one of the most genuine 6'4 on here. I think a guy like Jason Momoa has a lot more chance of being as low as 6'3.5 than him (and Jared)...
I mean look at him:
With listed 6'1.5 Boris Becker: Click Here Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'0.5 (6'1 peak) Steve Harvey and 6' Tyson Beckford: Click Here With the same Steve Harvey, back in 1998 (so certainly still at his peak height, considering that he was only around 40 back then): Click Here
With listed 6'5.5 Kevin Durand: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'1 Oded Fehr: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'6 (but more 6'5.5 range) Rick Fox: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6' James Van Der Beek: Click Here
With listed 6' Kim Coates: Click Here
With listed 6'7.5 Magic Johnson: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'1 Brian J White: Click Here
With listed 5'11 Wayne Brady: Click Here
With listed 6'4 Henry Simmons: Click Here
With listed 5'10.75 Tyrese Gibson: Click Here
With 6'1.5-6'2 range AJ Calloway: Click Here The same AJ with Jared: Click Here
With listed 5'9.25 Casper Van Dien: Click Here
With 5'11-6' range Dr. Oz: Click Here
With listed 6'0.5 Wentworth Miller: Click Here
With listed 6'4 (6'4.5 peak) Dennis Haysbert: Click Here Click Here
With 6'3 range Nigel Barker: Click Here
With 6'3 range Jerome Boateng: Click Here
With MEASURED 6'3 1/8 Damien Woody: Click Here
With listed 196 Dustin Brown: Click Here The same Dustin with Andy Murray: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'4.5 Chi McBride: Click Here And Boris even seems to be in less footwear than Chi: Click Here Click Here With the same Chi, back in 2000s (when Chi was only just over 40, so I doubt he had already lost anything by then): Click Here
With listed 6'0.5 John Cena: Click Here
With listed 6'4.25 Tyler Perry: Click Here
With listed 6'4.75 James Avery (in his late 50s): Click Here
Andrea said on 1/Feb/18
Trust me, Christian. I'm very tired of this discussion too. I totally understand Rob's decision about not retrieving the old comments on Ray's page, but I'm 100% sure that I've NEVER mentioned that thing before because I never really cared about it. And since you like it when I say that, I would bet all my money on that too...
I always compare Jared to Boris because both of them look two of the most genuine 6'4 on here. And both of them rarely look as low as 6'3, maybe even never. Speaking of Boris, the lowest he can look is 192 next to Kobe and Barkley, if you exclude those two pictures of him with Jamie Foxx and Akon (where he admittedly can look as low as 6'2-6'3). And I don't care if 3 or even 4 people said that they met Boris and that he's around 6'3. Again, who are these people? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Funny how you refer to Bobbyh3342 as a 6'4.25 guy, as if you personally had measured him. Giving some estimates that, IN YOUR OPINION, are believable doesn't automatically make him legit or something. I never had the chance of talking to him and I have nothing against him, but he's the same guy who guessed Kim Coates just over 2 inches shorter than Boris "in person" (at 6'0.5), so I certainly wouldn't say that all of his estimates seem very believable. Click Here As for Boris' agencies listings, as I said, we've already been there. Christopher Lee wasn't listed at 6'4 (or over) until later in his career as well. And he's just one of the many examples...
As for Shilique's picture, I'm pretty sure that you already knew that there's some tilt in Shilique's favor, LOL. I tried to straighten the picture and I maintain my "around an inch" guess: Click Here I can see 3 cms (which is still around an inch), but not much more than that. And of course I'm taking into consideration their postures. In fact, I would say that Shawne is dropping more height than Shilique there, judging by his legs (or what you can see of them).
And of course I would completely rule out 6'5 for Boris, now that I have seen more pictures of him. Just like I completely rule out 6'3. I guess the way he looks with those guys (Durand, Coates and Haysbert) speaks more about their listings than Boris'...
And don't worry. I already took a look at that exchange of views between you and Rampage on Kagame's page and I found it very amusing, I must say. Funny how you both were going to start a new discussion with each other there, but as soon as Rampage realized that you had defended him against me on here (which you clearly did just to attack me and to have him in your "team"), he took back everything he said (including the marvelous "Christian, as always you suck at estimating height" statement) and the discussion just ended there, LMFAO. Same thing for you. Getting back to this extremely long discussion, sure, me too, I have my "responsibilities" and maybe I could have avoided saying certain things, but everything I said was a direct consequence of what you said. So again, don't even try to pin all of this on me. Fact is that I've been on here for a much longer time than you and I've never had such a long and heated discussion. With anyone... Your arrogance certainly plays/played a big role in it. In fact, you're one of the most arrogant posters I've ever seen on here and you always speak as if what you say is the only truth and when someone tries to have a normal discussion and disagrees with you, you simply attack them and come out with stupid comments like "you are a fanboy", "you just want him/her to be taller", etc. No wonder that you are so disliked on here. As for people sticking up for me or not, I honestly don't need it, unlike someone else. I'm a quite confident person and I certainly don't need consensus or people agreeing with me. And if posters like Viper, Bennett or even Canson think that I'm full of crap... I'm just glad about it. It means I'm doing it right. The day posters that I truly respect and appreciate will start thinking that way, maybe I'll start worrying about it. ;)
Canson said on 31/Jan/18
@Christian: well said!
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 30/Jan/18
@Andrea

I'm not lying. I know for certain that you brought it up on Ray's page. I'd like Rob to retrive the older comments as well, but it's best to just leave him alone since he's obviously starting to get tired of our never-ending heated discussion.
And I don't know why you love to compare Jared to Boris as if they're in the same boat. The differences between the two is that Boris looks about 6'3" next to some people, while Jared very rarely looks as low as that next to anyone, maybe even never. And several people (at least 3 or 4) said Boris is around 6'3" or less in person, while only one person who met Jared said he looked 6'3" and the rest (at least 4) said he looked 6'4". Btw Bobbyh3342 met both Boris and Jared and said Boris looked 6'2.75" and Jared a good 6'4". And he's a credible poster because all of his estimates seem very believable if you see those celebs standing next to others in pics. And he's a very tall guy himself (about 6'4.25") so he can easily tell the difference between a 6'2.75" and a 6'4" guy. And I know that some taller models get underlisted on agencies, but with Boris, if they're gonna underlist him, why list him at 3 different heights? He should've just got listed 6'2" and be done with it. But they also listed him 6'2.5" and 6'3", which leads me to believe that they are more accurate listings. He wasn't listed 6'4" until later in his career.
And I already know that the tilt in the pic favors Shilique a bit, but you also have to consider that he's dropping a bit more height than Shawne because he's hunching more. You can ask any poster on this site and most will tell you that Shilique looks about 1.5" taller than Shawne there. If you don't believe me, go ask. And I'm not the one being biased because I acknowledged that Shawne looks taller than Vernon in those two pics, I just said that Vernon's actually taller than Shawne in my opinion. (It's the same thing as you believeing that Shawne's an inch shorter than Barkley despite there's a pic where the difference looks 2"+, I wouldn't call you biased over that so don't call me biased either) You on the other hand are biased about the Shawne and Shilique pic, because you purposefully diminished the height difference to 1" when it's clearly 1.5" in the pic.
And it's hilarious how you think 6'5" is possible for Boris yet 6'3" is impossible when there are more pics of him looking 6'3" then there are pics of him looking 6'5", plus Boris himself never claimed or listed in any agency as 6'5".
And I wasn't using Rampage against you. I've always respected him as a poster since I first saw joined this site. I just disagree with some of his estimates, and we had a few minor arguments here and there, but he apologized to me and appreciates me for defending him and now we're cool with each other. Take a look at the comments on Paul Kagame's page Click Here Our disagreement could've ended in the same manner that Rampage's did, but unlike him, you started acting immature and calling me names. Whether you started it or not, one thing for sure is that you escalated it. Now I'm not perfect and I've said a few things that were unecessary, but at least I own up to it. You however, think that you're entitled and think you deserve some type of respect or admiration just because most celebs you estimated supposedly turned out to be true when Rob met them. And you wonder why no one sticked up for you in our discussion. Canson, Viper/Checker, Bennett/Junior among others realize that you're full of crap.
Canson said on 30/Jan/18
@Christian: another one where 6’2 7/8 combine TO is leaning in more and looks “just about as tall as Boris”. If Boris has an advantage it’s very little here once the tilt is addressed. I don’t see TO much under this mark

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Canson said on 30/Jan/18
There are times when he can look 6’4” but other times when he looks 6’2 range like 6’2.5 for example. And others when he looks in the 6’3” range. Then again he can look 6’5+ at times like Christian said. His height is all over the place but being there’s a footwear advantage with Kobe he really can look 6’3 there and 6’3 with Barkley.
Tunman said on 30/Jan/18
Yeah,he generally looks around 6'4 more than anything else,well he could turn to be slightly smaller than Jared Padalecki.Still I think he looked only 191,5 with Kobe,that's the lowest arguable imo.Anything under this is really a joke,he just consistantly looks near 6'4.Perhaps a slight downgrage to 192 is possible but not under.

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