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LG69 says on 6/Nov/09
Vegas, why wouldn't Backlund be measured in college? What's wrong with that? As a wrestler, his weight was the more important, but getting his height is just part of the deal.
drk says on 6/Nov/09
My doorways are also 6'9" with a 3" trim to the 7' roof. I am 6'7.5" in my work boots and am about 1.5" below the top of the open door. LG69 says on 6/Nov/09
JT, you say that 7' for Andre is 3" or more off. If that is so, Andre was only 6'8.5"-6'9"...you have to be kidding. That would make Backlund 5'8.5"-5'9", which we know he's a solid 6'tall. Also, Andre measured 6'10" at death, so how could he be under 6'10" in that photo with Backlund? He was near his prime at the time of that photo. Even if you take a little off for being in front of the cinder blocks, that certainly is not going to be 3" as you say. Maybe 1/2-1". Andre always wore relatively flat wrestling boots, like the ones he's wearing in the photo with Backlund. He didn't wear the thick,chunky heels like Show,Gonzales or some of the other big wrestlers did. Also,that height scale that you used for Giant Gonzales is not correct. Your bottom line is off the floor by 2" thereby making Gonzales stand 7'9.5". If you take off 2" that the scale is off, then Gonzales would be at 7'7.5", which makes more sense because he was known to actually stand 7'6". If he wore his relatively thick wrestling boots, his height would be 7'7.5" not 7'9.5". mike says on 6/Nov/09
well my doorways actually measure 6'9" and roughly 6'10 just over the top molding,and we know from that video that Andre had to duck his head,i give andre 6'11" -7 foot Danimal says on 5/Nov/09
Stretch says on 5/Nov/09
Danimal says on 4/Nov/09
The Backlund/Andre photo is still the best available to get an accurate height of Andre. Andre measures just past 10.5 cinder blocks,not counting his afro. I just researched online,and found out that those cinder blocks are made by manufacturers at 7 5/8" to allow the mortar to feel in the space between blocks, thereby giving you the standard 8". The bottom block is also a"standard half block"( 4" with mortar included) with a type of black caulk around the base. So, 10.5x8=84"(7feet), and Andre is about 1/2"past the 10th block. Andre's heels are at most 1/2" but that doesn't mean he's getting a full 1/2". My Addidas have a 1" heel from the outside, but when I measure in them I'm getting 3/4" of lift. Plus he weighs 500lbs, and I'm sure that's compressing the material quite a bit. Point is: Andre was 7' tall in that photo. He may have been taller at some point, and we know he was shorter in later years due to his condition and back surgery; at death he was measured at 6'10" 555lbs according to the coroner. Until a better photo or video comes along, I'm 100% convinced he was 7'at his peak. Btw, I researched a bit on Backlund, and he was measured at 6'0 even when he wrestled in college; he is 1.5(12") blocks shorter than Andre.
This is a great post.. Insightful, unbiased, and diligent research to back it up.. This is what we need more of on this page. Great work!! 7'0 (at least) prime Andre!!
???????????????? You quoted me, but I didn't type ANY of that??????????? Vegas says on 5/Nov/09
Danimal says on 27/Oct/09
You met brother love 20 years after he stood next to a BAREFOOTED Haku
i met a 43 year old brother love, i guess he lost height sitting behind his desk writing wrestling scripts :D barefoot or not haku was not 6'2 with a 12 inch head like that other poster claimed him to be JT says on 5/Nov/09
LG69 we’ve been through this how many times now? I guess Giant Gonzales is 7’9.5” in his wrestling boots (which did not have large heels back then) Click Here Kevin Nash is around 7’2” in his boots? Click Here If the camera is below the guy’s head, you can’t judge his height by the level of the wall behind him. Click Here You’re getting an inflated height by over 3 inches. So calculate Andre’s height with the cinder blocks, subtract 3+ inches, and we may have our answer;) Stretch says on 5/Nov/09
Danimal says on 4/Nov/09
The Backlund/Andre photo is still the best available to get an accurate height of Andre. Andre measures just past 10.5 cinder blocks,not counting his afro. I just researched online,and found out that those cinder blocks are made by manufacturers at 7 5/8" to allow the mortar to feel in the space between blocks, thereby giving you the standard 8". The bottom block is also a"standard half block"( 4" with mortar included) with a type of black caulk around the base. So, 10.5x8=84"(7feet), and Andre is about 1/2"past the 10th block. Andre's heels are at most 1/2" but that doesn't mean he's getting a full 1/2". My Addidas have a 1" heel from the outside, but when I measure in them I'm getting 3/4" of lift. Plus he weighs 500lbs, and I'm sure that's compressing the material quite a bit. Point is: Andre was 7' tall in that photo. He may have been taller at some point, and we know he was shorter in later years due to his condition and back surgery; at death he was measured at 6'10" 555lbs according to the coroner. Until a better photo or video comes along, I'm 100% convinced he was 7'at his peak. Btw, I researched a bit on Backlund, and he was measured at 6'0 even when he wrestled in college; he is 1.5(12") blocks shorter than Andre.
This is a great post.. Insightful, unbiased, and diligent research to back it up.. This is what we need more of on this page. Great work!! 7'0 (at least) prime Andre!! Anonymous says on 5/Nov/09
I met Andre one time, he had only an inch on me and I'm 7 feet tall.
Andre could have been 7'1" in his prime. ----- Richard "Pervert" Poole Danimal says on 4/Nov/09
LG69 says on 4/Nov/09
The Backlund/Andre photo is still the best available to get an accurate height of Andre. Andre measures just past 10.5 cinder blocks,not counting his afro. I just researched online,and found out that those cinder blocks are made by manufacturers at 7 5/8" to allow the mortar to feel in the space between blocks, thereby giving you the standard 8". The bottom block is also a"standard half block"( 4" with mortar included) with a type of black caulk around the base. So, 10.5x8=84"(7feet), and Andre is about 1/2"past the 10th block. Andre's heels are at most 1/2" but that doesn't mean he's getting a full 1/2". My Addidas have a 1" heel from the outside, but when I measure in them I'm getting 3/4" of lift. Plus he weighs 500lbs, and I'm sure that's compressing the material quite a bit. Point is: Andre was 7' tall in that photo. He may have been taller at some point, and we know he was shorter in later years due to his condition and back surgery; at death he was measured at 6'10" 555lbs according to the coroner. Until a better photo or video comes along, I'm 100% convinced he was 7'at his peak. Btw, I researched a bit on Backlund, and he was measured at 6'0 even when he wrestled in college; he is 1.5(12") blocks shorter than Andre.
You're BOSS, right? LV says on 4/Nov/09
Correction on David Prowse, he was a body builder, but had a physique and surgeries not unlike Hogan LV says on 4/Nov/09
He's an interesting article for those that don't believe in height loss (and this is from a non-athlete):
Click Here Vegas says on 4/Nov/09
people are measured in college??? thats a new one, he was probably listed at 6ft even in college, brock lesnar was listed at 6'4 in college wrestling just for reference LG69 says on 4/Nov/09
correction, Andre is just past the 10.5 blocks,not 10 blocks as I said previous. LG69 says on 4/Nov/09
The Backlund/Andre photo is still the best available to get an accurate height of Andre. Andre measures just past 10.5 cinder blocks,not counting his afro. I just researched online,and found out that those cinder blocks are made by manufacturers at 7 5/8" to allow the mortar to feel in the space between blocks, thereby giving you the standard 8". The bottom block is also a"standard half block"( 4" with mortar included) with a type of black caulk around the base. So, 10.5x8=84"(7feet), and Andre is about 1/2"past the 10th block. Andre's heels are at most 1/2" but that doesn't mean he's getting a full 1/2". My Addidas have a 1" heel from the outside, but when I measure in them I'm getting 3/4" of lift. Plus he weighs 500lbs, and I'm sure that's compressing the material quite a bit. Point is: Andre was 7' tall in that photo. He may have been taller at some point, and we know he was shorter in later years due to his condition and back surgery; at death he was measured at 6'10" 555lbs according to the coroner. Until a better photo or video comes along, I'm 100% convinced he was 7'at his peak. Btw, I researched a bit on Backlund, and he was measured at 6'0 even when he wrestled in college; he is 1.5(12") blocks shorter than Andre. aramx says on 4/Nov/09
How much did Andre weigh in that vid? Like 450 lbs? And yeah he looked just about 7 feet tall in it (probably with the extra inch from the shoes). How high would you say his shoulder level is? I would like to know because then we can determine roughly how tall the other people in that video are. Marble90 says on 4/Nov/09
I agree mamun he would have been an awesome jaws i also wanted to see him in movies such as bloodsport he would have fit perfectlly in those type of movies . Vegas says on 4/Nov/09
he would be far better playing comedy roles looking at that than jaws, i hate how all wrestlers are always portrayed as tough guys on screen when in reality most are funny guys eg nash, wight Mamun says on 4/Nov/09
I think Andre could have done soo much in the world of t.v and movies ! He
should have taken up the offer to play Jaws . What a shame we lost such a
great entertainer soo soon ! And Vegas you are right ! I enjoyed every second
of that sitcom if though I didn't understand one word !
Regards
Supermun Mamun says on 3/Nov/09
OK JT Andre does not look like a 7' 2" in cowboy boots but then he doesn't
in a million years look like the 6' 9" you and vegas are trying to prove !
His overall size is awesome as evident in that video . If it was shaq or
even Richard kiel acting in the place of Andre , they would by no means
look that massive . Andre truely was the 8th wonder of the world . Fantastic
find Dicksock ! Like I said , you get to see a lot of other stuff and evidence
in celebheights of your favorite heros that you never thought to have existed!
Regards & cheers for Dicksock !
Supermun Danimal says on 3/Nov/09
mike says on 3/Nov/09
now those doorways in that video are what around 6'10" you think?
I live in Montreal, Canada (where that French Canadian show was filmed) and MOST standard doorways are 6'8" beneath the panel and 6'10" above the panel. Danimal says on 3/Nov/09
mike says on 3/Nov/09
now those doorways in that video are what around 6'10" you think?
I live in Montreal, Canada (where that French Canadian show was filmed) and MOST standard doorways are 6'8" beneath the panel and 6'10" above the panel. Vegas says on 3/Nov/09
compromising lol, when we have video of bret/hbk side by side backlund
btw that sitcom is hilarious even though i barely understand a word, mr petit :) i-Clarke-93 says on 3/Nov/09
Mamun says on 3/Nov/09
Thank you dicksock ! my friend how about posting that Andre/bret picture from
the Bret bio book that you have !
I don't know how to upload pics directly , but if someone could tell me how to I would be glad to.
Regards
Supermun
I don't know ho Me says on 3/Nov/09
For about the billionth time doors are 80" to 81" or 6'8" or 9" the doorways are 6'10". With the trim around the top of the doorway adds up to be 7' or just a little more. JT says on 3/Nov/09
Click Here Rob has Cary Elwes at 5’11” and Robin Wright at 5’6”. Not sure about the others. The problem is that Andre and those other two guys are on higher ground and further from the camera. The photo again evidences how average-sized Andre’s forehead was, with most of the huge head height coming from the eyes down.
Click Here Mike, why would you assume the doorway is 6’10”?? Not sure if any country would have typical “home” doorways this tall. If it’s the standard 6’8” doorway like here in the U.S., Andre would be struggling to hit 7 feet in cowboy boots even if he stood up perfectly straight. That’s not how a ~ 7’2” guy (in cowboy boots) usually looks next to average-sized people - still does not prove his height though but an interesting video to show his overall mass. Marotte says on 3/Nov/09
Nice find dicksock, its actually a french canadian video. aramx says on 3/Nov/09
I just saw it. It was pretty impressive both in content and vid quality (especially video quaility). lol he breaks the chair and sofa by sitting on it. Danimal says on 3/Nov/09
Vegas says on 3/Nov/09
backlund was not 1.5 inches taller than bret and hbk as we have proved here already danimal, same height for those 3
Sorry, but that's not true. Vince was taller than a PEAK Bret Hart, yet, Vince was the same height as Bob Backlund. If anything, Backlund had minimum 1" on HBK/Bret Hart (that's my compromising with you Vegas). Danimal says on 3/Nov/09
dicksock says on 3/Nov/09
ATTENTION EVERYONE ON THIS SITE!!! I HAVE DISCOVERED A MUST WATCH ANDRE VIDEO. I REPEAT I HAVE DISCOVERED A MUST WATCH ANDRE VIDEO. Go to youtube and type in "Les Brillant" It's the one that's 9:46. This is the motherload. It is a full 10 minutes of Andre on a french sitcom. I'm positive I've never seen it before. It appears to be from the early 80's. Andre is living with a family as a guest and yes he has his trusty cowboy boots.(getting a good 2") But whatever your view on his height whether 6'11 or 7'1 I think Mamun is right. Andre is certainly the most awesome creature that has ever existed. This video truely shows the 8th wonder of the world to be a true GIANT of a man. Just watch and see for yourself. Just unreal stuff.
It's fun to watch, but it doesn't prove his height. It does show that he was huge though. The show aired on French Canadian television from 1979-1982, so Andre was probably still at his peak height at that point. Danimal says on 3/Nov/09
aarod. says on 2/Nov/09
for those who think hogan didnt lose height, let it be known that brutus beefcake and hogan are around the same height today, hogan might be an inch taller, but back in the 70's and 80's, hogan had 3+ inches on beefcake in every picture, even when they were tag team partners.. i have met beefcake and he is a solid 6'3" now, maybe SLIGHTLY taller. so either hogan wore lifts all the time like sly stallone, or he actually DID shrink.
Why do you have to lie about having met Beefcake recently just to prove your point? You've lied about so much already. Just learn to be honest. Mamun says on 3/Nov/09
Thank you dicksock ! my friend how about posting that Andre/bret picture from
the Bret bio book that you have !
Regards
Supermun Vegas says on 3/Nov/09
backlund was not 1.5 inches taller than bret and hbk as we have proved here already danimal, same height for those 3 mike says on 3/Nov/09
now those doorways in that video are what around 6'10" you think? dicksock says on 3/Nov/09
ATTENTION EVERYONE ON THIS SITE!!! I HAVE DISCOVERED A MUST WATCH ANDRE VIDEO. I REPEAT I HAVE DISCOVERED A MUST WATCH ANDRE VIDEO. Go to youtube and type in "Les Brillant" It's the one that's 9:46. This is the motherload. It is a full 10 minutes of Andre on a french sitcom. I'm positive I've never seen it before. It appears to be from the early 80's. Andre is living with a family as a guest and yes he has his trusty cowboy boots.(getting a good 2") But whatever your view on his height whether 6'11 or 7'1 I think Mamun is right. Andre is certainly the most awesome creature that has ever existed. This video truely shows the 8th wonder of the world to be a true GIANT of a man. Just watch and see for yourself. Just unreal stuff. Mikew says on 3/Nov/09
Not sure what the photo with Debbie Harry is supposed to prove. Putting aside the fact that we are looking at a single photo, the same critical question remains: how big is Andre's head? Throw in the heels, the fact that her puffed up hair makes her look like she's standing taller than she is, plus the fact that Andre is slightly leaning in, and you have, once again, a far from conclusive photo. Is the the top of her head, NOT her puffed up hair, 4 inches shorter than Andre's chin? 5 inches? How big is Andre's head? How much height is Andre losing by leaning to the left? One inch? How much height is the lady gaining from the heels? 2 inches? 3 inches? The answers to these questions would help us, but alas, there are no definite answers. If Andre's head is as big as I think it is, then I believe the photo, when you account for the puffed up hair, the heels and the lean in, shows Andre to be right at 7 feet, not the 6'10.67 Vegas estimate. Keep in mind that the 6'10.67 estimate is only a little more than an inch off the 7'0" estimate, so really we're not arguing about much. Vegas, you are correct that Andre was certainly not 7'2" barefoot. But he was also almost assuredly not 6'10" barefoot either. I say he was 7'0.5 at his peak, but anywhere between 6'11" and 7'1" I think is plausible. LV says on 2/Nov/09
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Pause this at 1:59...good comparison of Andre and the rest of the cast of the Princess Bride. Although I am not sure all everyone's heights. aarod. says on 2/Nov/09
for those who think hogan didnt lose height, let it be known that brutus beefcake and hogan are around the same height today, hogan might be an inch taller, but back in the 70's and 80's, hogan had 3+ inches on beefcake in every picture, even when they were tag team partners.. i have met beefcake and he is a solid 6'3" now, maybe SLIGHTLY taller. so either hogan wore lifts all the time like sly stallone, or he actually DID shrink. Stretch says on 2/Nov/09
@ VEGAS... THE CLAIMS OF A 7'2 BAREFOOT ANDRE ARE NO MORE "LAUGHABLE" THAN YOUR CLAIMS OF A 6'10 PEAK ANDRE.. HE WAS MEASURED AT DEATH AT AROUND 6'10 SO HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WAS HIS PEAK HEIGHT IN HIS YOUNGER YEARS?? NOT A CHANCE.. Danimal says on 2/Nov/09
dicksock says on 31/Oct/09
Vegas says on 31/Oct/09
bob backlund was hbk and bret harts height, so if backlund was 6'1 so were they..
Both Bret and Shawn were a strong 6' in their primes and a 40 something Backlund edged Bret out so yeah...
Bret 6'0.5"
HBK 6'0.5
Backlund 6'1" peak
Bret - 5'11"
HBK - 5'11"
Backlund - 6'0.5" Daniel_Sweden says on 2/Nov/09
just compare andre with Arnold 6'1.5, Bret Hart 6'0, Roddy Piper 6'0.5, Bob backlund 6'0 - 6'0.5..he looks a foot taller than all of these guys exept for arnold..also the picture with Wilt not sure about his height but if he was 7'1.25 then andre was at least 7 at THAT MOMENT..Inoki was probably a legit 6'2 or maybe 6'2.5 gyt andre simply towers over him..
yes there are pictures where andre looks to be 6'10 but the are so much more pictures where he looks to be in the 6'11.5 - 7 feet range
Andre the Giant peak 7'0... aramx says on 2/Nov/09
JT a non-pituitary 7 footer can still easily have a head in the 12-13 inch range. I know I used this guy before, but I am using him again. 7,3" (or 7,4") Shagari Alleyne. You don't think his head is a good 12 inches from this better pic? (where he isn't looking to the ground)?
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I don't have a photoshop ruler to prove my point but doing a few simple measurements with a see-through ruler and assuming that the woman's head is about 8.5" to 9" long that would still easily make his head 12 inches long. His head is DEFINITELY bigger than Shaq's (which looks about 11 inches)compared to Big Show's, but a little shorter than Andre's. Vegas says on 2/Nov/09
5 inch heels no way, these are advertised as 4 inches and give the wearer 3 inch over barefoot Click Here Click Here harrys heels would need to be about 6.5 inches to give her 5 inches over barefoot
rock with Sarah Michelle Gellar who is about the same height as a peak debbie harry Click Here those ain't 5 inchers either Click Here Ghost says on 2/Nov/09
Those certainly aren't 5 inch heels on Debbie Harry. Andre is looking suprsingly short there.
I'm pretty sure if they happened to be standing next to a brick wall Andre would come out as 6'9 or 6'10. I'm not saying he was that short in his prime, but it just ges to prove how unreliable a single photo can be.
What many here seem to base their estimations on are photos of Andre with people who are almost around a foot or so shorter than him. This can be very deceptive because the larger the height difference between two people is, the more difficult it gets to estimate the taller person's height. What is more useful, is comparing Andre with Hogan, Chris Taylor, OMG and so on, who are all very tall guys.
Hogan is probably the best of these because there is planty of material of him and Andre available. In my view, Andre in his prime was about 5 or 5,5 inches taller than Hogan, who I think was 6'5,5 in his prime, thus making Andre about 6'11 in his prime.
Nothing to do with his height, but here's a nice tribute to Andre by the Princess Bride cast & crew.
Click Here Mamun says on 1/Nov/09
My friend JT , you are very strict in measuring Andre's head and taking into
account Andre's second chin which you say shouldn't be counted . But then you
have no problem at all in measuring Studd's head from the base of his very
thick beard all the way to the top of his hair which is also very thick. I
have a very big problem trying to beleive that there was only 1" dfference
difference between Studd and Andre's head ! I have already proven that Andre's
head is larger than a 7' 6.5" Gonzalez , Paul Whiet, 7' 8" Alam Channa and
anyone else's that comes to my mind ! And Vegas are you sure she only has 3"
of heels on her ?????????? To me it looks more like 5" .
My friend Aramx , I haven't seen you posting here before and I think you
have only recently started to post on the Andre the giant page . So as a
fellow poster to another , I feel like I must welcome you ! Here is my
welcome ;...... " Welcome to the Andre the Giant page ( a page full of
injustice ) Aramx !
Regards
Supermun JT says on 1/Nov/09
Tuga, the in-ring camera at the beginning is shoulder-mounted so there’s no telling whether it’s level. These are from the stationary cameras:
Click Here here’s the next frame of the video:
Click Here Backlund has dress shoes on as well, whereas Lawler has thin-soled boots on.
Here’s how Nash measured up to Lawler:
Click Here Vegas posted pics of Nash and Backlund several years ago that were similar to this. Click Here Nash has at least a head size on Backlund (in dress shoes). Andre didn’t though his head is obviously larger than Nash’s. Vegas says on 1/Nov/09
Click Here thats a good photo of andre and debbie harry, harry was no taller than 5'3, its laughable we still have people claiming 7'2 barefoot for andre, andre just wasn't taller than his late 1960s height listings, everything adds up too; listed at 210cm or 6'10.67 (more than likely his morning height), listed at 208cm 6'9.88 in other places (probably his evening height) i-Clarke-93 says on 1/Nov/09
Mamun says on 1/Nov/09
I have seen Bret Hart's Bio book at a book shop yesterday and in it there
was a 1986 or 1987 picture of a barefoot Andre still towering over a bret
in Nikkies by almost a foot . The picture is a very good one because it was
a full body shot . But Andre wasn't in his prime ! Thank you anonymous !
Regards
Supermun
I have Bret's bio and yes there is a pic of Ansdre and Bret shaking hands ; Andre is barefoot and Bret is wearing sneakers giving him about a 1" advantage over Andre who is not standing straight (knees are slightly bent) and he still towers over Bret. I'd say the picture was taken more around 88 ,89' Mamun as Andre has very thick sideburns in the pic as he did around 88/89. Red says on 1/Nov/09
Me, still trying to find that pic JT says on 1/Nov/09
I guess a leaning DiBiase is around 6’5” then if Backlund is 6’1”. Click Here Backlund has a thick head of hair – there’s no Undertaker-like forehead as someone claimed here Click Here
aramx says on 31/Oct/09
Back to the discussion of Andre's head size, assuming that the average person' height is about 7 of their head heights tall, Andre's head SHOULD be roughly 12 inches or a foot long. However, most of us would agree his head was rather large even for his height I would say his head was about 13 inches long. Probably not 14 inches but easily 13 inches long.
Aramx, this is to satisfy someone’s claim here that Studd’s head could have been 11 inches long, which is absurdly long for a non-pituitary giant. Click Here You can forget 14 inches; the 13 inch mark is in the curls of the hair and looks above the scalp. Also note that the bottom line really starts at the bottom of Andre’s second chin, which should not count. I doubt a non-pituitary 7 foot man is going to have a 12 inch long head – maybe 10.5” to 11” long. Most of the extra height usually comes from having longer legs.
Again, the forehead height of Andre was not large; it sloped back very fast: Click Here Click Here The head from the eyes down – huge. Mamun says on 1/Nov/09
I have seen Bret Hart's Bio book at a book shop yesterday and in it there
was a 1986 or 1987 picture of a barefoot Andre still towering over a bret
in Nikkies by almost a foot . The picture is a very good one because it was
a full body shot . But Andre wasn't in his prime ! Thank you anonymous !
Regards
Supermun Me says on 1/Nov/09
Red is it possible for you to give a measurement of what Andre was on the scale with Carpentier. I am sure you remember he is barefoot and is standing perfectly straight, head is up and he is barefoot. Let us know tuga says on 1/Nov/09
Maybe backlund wasn´t a full 6'1, but he is still a little taller than Bret Hart, here´s one video where he´s standing as tall as he can:
Click Here Red says on 1/Nov/09
Vegas says on 31/Oct/09
seems like vince forgot to take off his shoes or put bob standing on something here :) Click Here
Bob is rarely standing straight during that vid, look at his legs.
Click Here 6´1.5" Vince has nothing more than an inch on Backlund, even with camera advantage Red says on 1/Nov/09
JT, you didn´t get into it yet. There is no 7ft mark at the wall in my pic.
It just looks like Andre´s head is touching the line under the 11th full cinder block. But that´s the 7´2" and change mark, if the camera would go higher we could see a difference between the line and the Top of Andres head.
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Vegas, I meant an old Backlund compared to the Backlund/Andre pic. I see the Hitman at 6´flat at that point, he´s still close to 6ft like Rob proved.
Backlund is similar to the Undertaker, both have very low eyelevels.
Click Here If Backlund had only 4inches on Meane Gene than peak Hogan was nothing over 6´3".
Gene 5´7.5" , Backlund 6´0.5"(looks a bit taller in the pic because he´s little closer to the camera) , Hogan 6´5" JT says on 31/Oct/09
Backlund was around 45 in that video with Hart and had not wrestled much in the previous 10 years. The high camera angle favors him right at the beginning but they look the same height in their stare down. Backlund (age 34) is closer to the camera than Mean Gene here and no more than 4 inches taller. Click Here
Per Rob, Pam Anderson is 5'6" and Debbie Harry (Blondie) is 5'3.5". Both have similar high heels on. Click Here It's about how Nash measured up to Gonzalez.
Sorry Red, you scaled your pics wrong. Think about it for a second – the 7 foot mark on your pic (a fraction below your 7'0.5" line) HAS to be at the midway point of that 11th cinder block (84 inch level) in the Gonzalez pic. Why would it be 3/4 the way up the cinder block? Your scaling of that bottom cinder block is screwing things up. still appreciate the effort though - most here argue with "I feel..." rather than post pics or other evidence in support of their position. dicksock says on 31/Oct/09
Vegas says on 31/Oct/09
bob backlund was hbk and bret harts height, so if backlund was 6'1 so were they..
Both Bret and Shawn were a strong 6' in their primes and a 40 something Backlund edged Bret out so yeah...
Bret 6'0.5"
HBK 6'0.5
Backlund 6'1" peak Anonymous says on 31/Oct/09
Andre and Gonzalez would only have a small differential in a staredown. Andre would be about eye level with him. Andre was a behemoth in the early seventies standing about 7'2 barefoot and 7'4 in boots. Andre would throw him around like a ragdoll as he was the real true giant of wrestling while gonzalez was just another uncoordinated tall guy. Big show would have to look up to a prime Andre and never had the girth and freakish hands and head size of the true giant. Andre! Rob i believe Mamun and others have worked diligently to supply adequate proof to update Andres height on here to over seven foot. Cmon lets make it happen. Thank you! aramx says on 31/Oct/09
Back to the discussion of Andre's head size, assuming that the average person' height is about 7 of their head heights tall, Andre's head SHOULD be roughly 12 inches or a foot long. However, most of us would agree his head was rather large even for his height I would say his head was about 13 inches long. Probably not 14 inches but easily 13 inches long. Vegas says on 31/Oct/09
seems like vince forgot to take off his shoes or put bob standing on something here :) Click Here Vegas says on 31/Oct/09
red; bret and backlund are like 6-7 years apart, backlund wasn't old at 43.....
tuga; backlund and bret are same height, in fact bret might be a bit taller because backlunds got a mass of hair there, brets eyeline is higher for one Click Here
here is a screenshot i saved a few years ago (i can't find the video anymore) of hbk/nash and backlund around 1993 Click Here Red says on 31/Oct/09
Vegas, that was an old Backlund and he still edged Bret out. Boss says on 31/Oct/09
Great job on the pics Red. Andre looks 7' with Backlund. The cinder blocks are good because we know their actual size. tuga says on 31/Oct/09
Vegas says on 31/Oct/09
bob backlund was hbk and bret harts height, so if backlund was 6'1 so were they..
Don´t think so...
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Watch around the 2:00 mark, backlund is taller. Vegas says on 31/Oct/09
bob backlund was hbk and bret harts height, so if backlund was 6'1 so were they.. Red says on 31/Oct/09
I can´t see Andres head under 13inches in normal position, it could be 14" general93 says on 31/Oct/09
the only way to figure out his peak height accurately is to take what we know and compare it.we know he was 6'10" 1993 thats not to say he was 6'10 after his operation in 1987.so his last time we can see him before his death was late 1992 he was on tbs beside gordon solie but was on crutches so we have to compare his late pics to one before 1980 because in his biography it says his body declined in 1983. dicksock says on 31/Oct/09
I can't find a listing for Backlund other than 6'1" anywhere. I found an article from 1999 that lists him at 6', thats it. 99% of listings give him 6'1". I have no reason to doubt. He stacks up similar to Andre like 6'1.5" Arnold did(taking away Andre's cowboy boots) The evidence is clear Bob Backlund 6'0.5"-6'1"(with slight footware adv. in Andre pic) Andre the Giant 7'0"-7'1" peak. LV says on 31/Oct/09
I don't know how many times I've posted the cinder block picture of Andre, but none of the sub-7ft crowd will acknowledge it. It substantiates both Backlund and Andre's heights very accurately. I'm sure someone wants to argue that the blocks are non-standard size or there is a camera angle issue, but anything that makes Backlund under 6ft doesn't make sense because when know he's much taller than the 5'10" Steamboat. His presence in that pictures proves that there isn't a scaling issue of any sort. It also proves Andre's head was at least 12" long. Danimal says on 30/Oct/09
Red says on 30/Oct/09
JT says on 29/Oct/09 Here's Backlund with Steamboat, who was 5'10" tops Click Here
Thats a 2inch difference, Backlund was nothing under 6´0"peak
Actually, Backlund was right around Vince's height in 1979-1980. Backlund was a 6'1" guy. dicksock says on 30/Oct/09
I agree that Gonzales was indeed about that eight, but Guinness can be deceiving sometimes. I have an old edition of it where they actually have Andre listed at 7'4! He was listed as the highest paid wrestler, but still... they put it in there unsubstantiated.
Yes, Andre's height of 7'4" was unsubstantiated...BUT he wasn't in the record book for his height. In other words, the people at guiness had no reason to check his height because that had no effect on his salary. Gonzalez on the other hand WAS in the record book specifically for his height. You're comparing apples and oranges. Kind of like how Haystacks was listed at 6'11". They let him keep the billing because it wasn't what he was being recognized for. Red says on 30/Oct/09
JT says on 29/Oct/09 Here's Backlund with Steamboat, who was 5'10" tops Click Here
Thats a 2inch difference, Backlund was nothing under 6´0"peak Red says on 30/Oct/09
JT, you know, you gave yourself the answer in your own comment:
Question:
JT says on 29/Oct/09
Red, the 11th cinder block in the Gonzales pic covers the 80 to 88 inch mark. In your pic Click Here the 7 foot line (84 inch) from Andre's pic should be at the midway point of that 11th cinder block.
Answer:
Gonzalez comes out around 2 inches taller than he should in boots since the camera is below his head and looking up. Same with the Andre/Backlund pic.
Here is how it works: Click Here
In the Gonzalez pic the wall starts with a full block, in the Andre pic the wall starts with a 2/3 block - Difference 1/3
Now look at the 11th block - still 1/3block Difference to the Andre pic!
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The 7´0.5" line in my pic is the top of Andres head - Not the middle of the block - like you said, they come out taller because of the low camera angle.
If you count the blocks + cement, the 11th block (10blocks +2/3block) in the Andre pic starts at 7´2.5" and that comes out accurate to the Gonzalez pic!
If the camera would be a the top of Andre´s head, we could see a 1.5" to 2" difference to that 7´2.5"line.
Next time you have to pay me for ! JT says on 29/Oct/09
Red, the 11th cinder block in the Gonzales pic covers the 80 to 88 inch mark. In your pic Click Here the 7 foot line (84 inch) from Andre's pic should be at the midway point of that 11th cinder block. Drop the Andre pic down around 2 inches and you got it. In your other pic, Andre is right next to Gene whereas Big Show is standing behind Gene. Try these pics and see if it comes out any differently ;) Click Here Click Here
Click Here Gonzalez comes out around 2 inches taller than he should in boots since the camera is below his head and looking up. Same with the Andre/Backlund pic.
Here's Backlund with Steamboat, who was 5'10" tops Click Here Aarod says on 29/Oct/09
ok guys.. andre is in .5 inch heals, and hes standing against a cinder block wall, cinder blocks are 8"x16", and the mortar/cement between it is probbaly .5"-.75" tops...anyone want to calculate Andre's height now? what about gonzalez' height?
I am gonna let someone else do the math. Aarod says on 29/Oct/09
JT, the cinder blocks in your andre/backlund pic are scaled smaller in height than the cinder blocks on the gonzalez pic, AND gonzalez's heal sits higher in the picture than andre's.. you truly are a jackass. STOP making photo collages, you absolutely SUCK at it. you dont adjust for distance from objects, depth, angle of incidence, or actual height either... Aarod says on 29/Oct/09
JT, the cinder blocks in your andre/backlund pic are scaled smaller in height than the cinder blocks on the gonzalez pic, AND gonzalez's heal sits higher in the picture than andre's.. you truly are a jackass. STOP making photo collages, you absolutely SUCK at it. you dont adjust for distance from objects, depth, angle of incidence, or actual height either... Richard says on 29/Oct/09
Red says on 29/Oct/09
Wasn´t Giant Gonzalez measured at 7´6.5" by Guinness book? Even that would be an avarage height of at least 3 measurements during the day.
I agree that Gonzales was indeed about that eight, but Guinness can be deceiving sometimes. I have an old edition of it where they actually have Andre listed at 7'4! He was listed as the highest paid wrestler, but still... they put it in there unsubstantiated. Aarod says on 29/Oct/09
JT, you say i didnt scale the cinder blocks correctly, but i did, they lined up EXACTLY, from top to bottom. LG69 says on 29/Oct/09
Giant Gonzales was a guest on a South American(Argentina) talk show back in the 90's. He stated he was 7'6" 430 lbs. As for Andre, I've said in the past that the photo with Backlund provides clear evidence of a 7'0-7'0.5" Andre. Andre's wrestling boots have always been the relatively flat heel kind. They give him maybe 1/2" of lift, that's it. Vegas says on 29/Oct/09
post proof of studds one inch footwear advantage please Boss says on 29/Oct/09
mike says on 28/Oct/09
andre had 5 inches on big john studd who stood around 6,6".
Studd also had an inch footware advantage on Andre on in ring photos which would have to be taken into account as well. Mamun says on 29/Oct/09
My friend " The Ben " ! This will never come up in googles ! Because this
whole thing about who has the largest head is something new and I beleive
we at celebheights are the only ones who started it .
Regards
Supermun ( I am still Super ) Mamun says on 29/Oct/09
My friend Red , you are the King ! Thank you for all of yor wonderful
pictures ! I enjoy them and I am sure so does everyone else here !
Regards
Supermun Mamun says on 29/Oct/09
My friend Red , you are the King ! Thank you for all of yor wonderful
pictures ! I enjoy them and I am sure so does everyone else here !
Regards
Supermun Me says on 29/Oct/09
This is why pics can be so misleading in both directions. It has become way to easy for people to manipulate pics or simply put one pic over another and truly believe that they are correct in their respective argument. No offense to anyone.
The Backlund pic with Andre is good for one reason, the cinder blocks. We have been over this before. Andre is standing practically up against the wall in a relaxed posture, in the evening because they in wrestling attire and he still comes out over 7'.
Red is correct this is all we need. Another poster mentioned that Backlund was less than a head size shorter than Andre, failed to mention it was an Andre head size.
Red is it possible for you to give a measurement of what Andre was on the scale with Carpentier. I am sure you remember he is barefoot and is standing perfectly straight, head is up and he is barefoot. Let us know.... Red says on 29/Oct/09
Wasn´t Giant Gonzalez measured at 7´6.5" by Guinness book? Even that would be an avarage height of at least 3 measurements during the day.
If we talk about peak height I give Giant Gonzalez 7´7" and Andre 7´0.5" and I mean morning height, not out of bed height.
The best evidence of a 7ft Andre is still the Backlund pic, I don´t need more.
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Supermum was alittle taller back than, maybe he was in superboots ;))
Click Here JT says on 28/Oct/09
Mamun, that comparison pic of Andre/Gonzalez was done by IIRC aarod, who didn't scale the cinder block walls correctly. Click Here The fact that Backlund looks around 6'4" and his head comes out about the same size as Gonzalez's should have been a giveaway. Lawler wasn’t much shorter than Backlund so you get a rough idea how Backlund (who was less than a head size shorter than Andre) would have measured up to Gonzalez Click Here Mamun says on 28/Oct/09
I believe my earlier post had been lost so I am posting again . starting
with aramX . Thank you for your compliment but I must also say these
were not done by me but by my other friends here like RED, BOSS , arrod
Chris and maybe JT .
My friend Frank , yes I did say my cousin was only 6' 6" when I first came
here in October 2007 ! But I had only measured him at this height when he
was 18 years and three months old . I was under the impression that a person
stops growing after the age 18 .I was dead wrong ! Remember when I said you
learn a lot when you came to celeheights ! well it was everyone's opinion
that he was taller than 6' 6" so I measured him again last year in May . I
was shocked to see that he was 6' 7" barefoot at 6.30 pm . Yes a normal
person can grow till age 25 in some cases . And you are right !Andre does
not look 7 ft tall . This is because of his abnormal body proportions makes
him look shorter than he really is . Like a very large head , long Torso and
shorter legs as compared to the over all body . But when you do the maths ,
you will see a whole new story !
Me , if you look at Andre's wrestling boots , you can see the soles are soo
thin it's almost like he is wrestling barefoot . So most of Andre's photos
in wrestling gear are actually his barefoot estimates !
And your welcome gigantor . We can use your expert help !
Regards
Supermun Ghost says on 28/Oct/09
Mamun,
Nobody is arguing Gonzales' height, it's Andre's height people have different opinions about.
There's no way Andre would be only 3-4 inches shorter than Gonzales.
+Andre having 7 inches on Studd is just false. If it looks like that for quarter of a second in a match it doesn't make it true. Andre never even had Hogan by 7 inches as can be clearly seen the video Vegas posted, how on earth could he be taller next to Studd?
Peak heights in my view:
Andre 6'11 possibly 6'11,5
Hogan 6'5,5
Studd 6'6,5
Nothing against any of these legendary wrestlers and huge men. This is just what makes most sense to me. tuga says on 28/Oct/09
Vegas says on 28/Oct/09
there is both photos by themselves, arrod made andre/backlund too tall next to gonzales, look at the bottom block, the top of the block to the floor measures the same as the other blocks Click Here now look how small the bottom block is here, especially the black strip Click Here
you cannot match up cinder blocks because thats not a full cinder block at the bottom of the andre/backlund photo (its only about half the size of the others)
that comparison photo also makes andre about 200lb+ heavier than gonzales, backlunds legs are much thicker than gonzales according to arrod lol, gonzales was so small guy weight wise either Click Here
Nice points Vegas, vader looks like a midget next to gonzales, and he´s bigger than backlund.
If you drew a line the top of backlund´s head is at shoulder level with gonzalez, note I´m not refering the trapezius muscle, and also pause the video with sid at around 1:59 2:00, according to that picture backlund and sid would be close in height.
I´m a big fan of Andre and still believe he could have reached 7' peak, but that comparison just isn´t right by any means. Vegas says on 28/Oct/09
there is both photos by themselves, arrod made andre/backlund too tall next to gonzales, look at the bottom block, the top of the block to the floor measures the same as the other blocks Click Here now look how small the bottom block is here, especially the black strip Click Here
you cannot match up cinder blocks because thats not a full cinder block at the bottom of the andre/backlund photo (its only about half the size of the others)
that comparison photo also makes andre about 200lb+ heavier than gonzales, backlunds legs are much thicker than gonzales according to arrod lol, gonzales was so small guy weight wise either Click Here aramx says on 28/Oct/09
Would anyone say Johan Peturrson (from that vid shown by Ghost) look at all acromegalic? He looks pretty acromegalic to me. And yeah his head is probably enormous. At least 12 inches long and possibly even 13 inches but no more. Mamun says on 28/Oct/09
My friend Ghost , that picture of Andre/Gonzalez is very accurate becuase
if you use the the 8" cinder blocks as reference , you can't go wrong !
Gonzalez was very tall and big , but he was only measured at 7' 6" by
Guinness book of records 2000 edition . It's right there so you can't argue
about it ! And in that 1978 video of Studd Vs. Andre , there was a point
when Andre raises his head for a head butt and Studd and Andre both had the
same posture and same distance from the camera , Andre did have almost 7"
on Studd . Andre fought Studd many times in the mid and late eighties , but
he was in no in the kind of shape he was in that 1978 video .
My friend Duhon , that gentleman seems to have a very large head . But how
do we campare it to Andre's ? What reference shall we use ?
My friend Tuga , Baclund does not appear to be Sid's height in in that photo!
Becuase Sid is a few inchs above Gonzale's shoulder level . Backlund is a
few inchs below . So that photo is really accurate . Because Andre stands up
better to Gonzalez than he does in the other comparison with Alam channa !
And Channa is 2 inchs taller and a bigger man than Gonzalez . It's right
there in GWBR int'l editions . So you can't argue with that !
regards
Superman
ps ; ROB there was another one of my earlier post missing ! Please post that ! miko says on 28/Oct/09
Giant Gonzalez would have been looking over Andre's head with ease. Vegas says on 28/Oct/09
the only way hakus head would be close to 12 inches long was when he looked like this and you added in the fro lol Click Here i-Clarke-93 says on 28/Oct/09
Haku wrestled barefoot so that's why he appeared the same height as 5'11 Bobby Heenan , If Heenan were barefoot he would have an inch on him , I don't believe he was 6'1 though . but 6ft definetely. tuga says on 28/Oct/09
Ghost says on 28/Oct/09
And that picture of Andre and Gonzales is not very believeable since in real life Gonzales would have had Andre by around 7 inches.
I agree, giant gonzales was a freak, no way bob backlund would reach his shoulder...
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Even sid at around 6'7 is around a head shorter than gonzales, if that picture was right backlund and sid would be close in height:
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Talking about heads giant gonzales head is by no means small, you just have to make a better comparison with andre.
Also haku was not 6'1, he was about same height as bobby heenan:
Click Here mike says on 28/Oct/09
andre had 5 inches on big john studd who stood around 6,6". Ghost says on 28/Oct/09
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Another giant with an enormous head. Ghost says on 28/Oct/09
Mamun,
"standing on a box" is not an excuse, but a reality in most pics where Andre looks suspiciously tall.
And that picture of Andre and Gonzales is not very believeable since in real life Gonzales would have had Andre by around 7 inches.
The video Vegas posted shows Andre being 5-6 inches taller than Hogan. Even if Hogan was 6'6, which I don't believe, that still wouldn't make Andre over 7 feet. In my view he may have been 6'11.5 in his prime, but definately not over.
Do you seriously believe that Big John Studd was 7 inches shorter than Andre? gigantor says on 27/Oct/09
Thanks Mamun, I have a whole new understanding of Wrestler -scale, I thought I would be just about even with Tonga but the man shattered my misguided preapprehensions. I am legitimately 5'11" as I was measured by a Physician a few weeks ago, Tonga was just a huge man and you can't fake that. Tonga's vast head had to be 12" so 14-16" for Andre's stupendous cranium is reasonable. I want to add, I have a gift for scale, in REAL WORLD situations I can accurately measure length, width, height almost without error. The bottom line is; Pro Wrestlers are larger than the appear. Mamun says on 27/Oct/09
I haven't seen any pictures of this gentleman Maurice Tillet , but how are
we going to compare him with Andre ? I mean what and who can we use for
Reference ? A comparison picture is impossible without having anything for
reference !
Regards
supermun mike says on 27/Oct/09
andre at wrestlemania had 4-5 inches on a 6,6" hogan.andre was 6'10" maybe 6'11" tops. Original Anonymous says on 27/Oct/09
Haku was as tall as Davey Boy Smith mike says on 27/Oct/09
andre looked roughly 6,11" imo maybe 7'0" max at his peak. Mikew says on 27/Oct/09
JT: I love how you try to casually downgrade the heights of other wrestlers who may be used as a reference point regarding Andre's height, the latest example being what you call the 6'3ish Bundy. Of course, you KNOW Bundy was taller than 6'3." You're pretty good though, I must admit. Keep up the good work! Scott says on 27/Oct/09
Hogan has admitted to having 3 inch lifts with false toes being concealed in his wrestling boots. Superstar Billy Graham who was a close friend of Big John Stud has said that Stud wore huge 3+ inch lifts. Stud was supposedly about 6'6" barefoot. I don't believe Andre wore any kind of lift, in large part because of mobility problems. I'm a huge fan and firmly believe his peak height of 6'11.5" is accurate if not slightly generous. As he aged in the early 90's serious height loss was evident. He doesnt need to be over 7' to be a giant folks, you could fit a silver dollar through his ring, thats giant stuff there. LG69 says on 27/Oct/09
That photo of Andre looking 2-3" taller than OMG is misleading. Andre is standing in the back. OMG appears close in height because of this. If Andre was standing side by side with OMG, Andre would look 6"taller. Red says on 27/Oct/09
Click Here Wow Mamun you met Andre? ;)
Click Here Another Andre/Paul comparison, Did Gene lost height between that pics? maybe a cm or so Danimal says on 27/Oct/09
Vegas says on 27/Oct/09
haku 6'1?? he was shorter than brother love (bruce prichard) who was shorter than me when i met him and i am 5'11
You met brother love 20 years after he stood next to a BAREFOOTED Haku. Mamun says on 27/Oct/09
Thank you ME ! But me we can all see Andre's footwear is almost zero when he
wrestles ! His shoes have soo thin soles that we can safely say Andre wrestled
barefoot !
Thank you my friend aramX ! But my friend all these comparison pictures were
done by my other friends here like RED, Chris , BOSS and possibly JT !
My friend Frank , when I first came here in October 2007 , I had known my
cousin to be only 6' 6" tall because I had measured him at that height when
he was 18 years 3 months old . I always thought that a normal person stops growing till age 18 ! I was dead wrong ! A normal person can grow till age
25 in some cases . So when I had remeasured him last year in May at 6.30 pm,
I was shocked to see he was 6' 7" barefoot ! Like I said you learn a lot from
celebheights . When I posted his picture here , it was everybody's opinion
that he had to be over 6' 6" . Now everybody's opnion is correct and he may
be closer to 6' 8" in the morning . I do not agree with you in the point of
Andre being the second most famous wrestler next to Hogan ! And yes you are
right , Andre never looks tall because of his body proportions which are
highly abnormal ; like a very large head and long torso and short legs as
compared to the over all body . But when you do the maths , a different
story emarges !
Regards
Mamun JT says on 27/Oct/09
Mamun, that comparison pic of Andre/Gonzalez was done by IIRC aarod, who didn't scale the cinder block walls correctly. Click Here The fact that Backlund looked around 6'4" and his head came out about the same size as Gonzalez's should have been a giveaway. Lawler wasn’t much shorter than Backlund so you get a rough idea how Backlund (who was less than a head size shorter than Andre) would have measured up to Gonzalez Click Here The Ben says on 27/Oct/09
Mamun, you always seem to use photos of andre as evidence where you cant see his feet, there's plenty of video footage where you see his feet and full body and he looks 6'11.5.... Rob's got it spot on with this one!.. The Ben says on 27/Oct/09
Mamun says on 23/Oct/09
My friend The Ben , I have also asked to be proven wrong !
Regards
Supermun
Supermun i've googled and checked all over the net for largest human head and there is no mention anywhere of andre the ginat... I think thats proof enough... And if you where really Supermun then you would never lie and everything you say would be true...
I think some of your statements on here are not worthy of the "Super" title..
I believe you are one of Zod's henchmen! Me says on 27/Oct/09
Mamun, my feelings about a 7'1" prime Andre have not changed. However any pic where we can not see his feet we should dismiss simply for the reason that if we can't see his feet then it may cast doubt as to the validity of the pic.
That being said the pic of Andre/Backlund/Gonzalez shows just how large Andres head is compared more importantly to the standard 8' cinder blocks, plus the mortar joints, directly behind him gives Andre a 12-13" head without the afro.
Comparing it to Gonzalez is fine because Gonzalez's head was huge, but not as big as Andre's. Original Anonymous says on 27/Oct/09
Considering head size I´d say Maurice Tillet could compete. Vegas says on 27/Oct/09
haku 6'1?? he was shorter than brother love (bruce prichard) who was shorter than me when i met him and i am 5'11 Frank says on 27/Oct/09
Mamum my friend how did your cousin go from 6ft 6 to 6ft 7 Im sure when you first came on here you said he was 6ft 6 ?? I do Agree with you Andre was a Very Big Man and The Most Popular man in Wrestling History next to Hulk Hogan
I believe he could have peaked @ 7ft but in most pictures he does not look 7ft barefoot TheBomb says on 27/Oct/09
in the early 1980's Andre was 7'0.5" and Hulk Hogan was 6'6". Andre shrunk because of all the weight he carried, while Hogan shrunk because of steroids, and back problems. Ghost says on 26/Oct/09
Mamun,
For the title of largest head, I don't think Bundy, Giant Haystacks or Channa would be Andre's biggest competion.
Lauri "louie" Moilanen could have probably beat Andre in head size.
I believe many giant experts here can provide examples of people with enourmous heads, possibly larger than Andre's. Mamun says on 26/Oct/09
Thank you Gigantor for your intelligent post ! Here is a picture of out of prime Andre towering over a prime Haku in 1989 !
Guys , kindly don't use the " his standing on a box " excuse ! Because it's getting old by now ! I think Andre has over a
foot on him and it's the only very rare moments that he is standing with a good posture !
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The picture of Andre/Gonzalez ! Andre's head is bigger by far !
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Regards
Supermun = aramx says on 26/Oct/09
Those pic comparisons were excellent! I have to congratulate you Mamun! JT says on 26/Oct/09
Mikew’s right. Andre was actually just showing great posture in that promo pic with Heenan, like 6’3”ish King Kong Bundy is showing here
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Click Here i-Clarke-93 says on 26/Oct/09
Gigantor says on 24/Oct/09
Hey guys, today I met one of my Pro Wrestling idols; 'Tonga' Fifita, aka 'Haku' or 'Meng'. Tonga and Andre held the WWF tag team championship in late 1989 to early 1990, I am 5'11" and weigh about 260lbs, I felt small next to Tonga as he had me by at least 2 inches and about 50lbs. His hands were enormous, and his legs were like tree trunks. The man is a good and sincere Human Being as he took some time to talk to me about the old days. I could not believe how large Tonga was because he appeared pixieish in comparison to Andre, I asked him how large Andre was and he said over a foot taller than him and further said Andre's hands were 3 times bigger than his, BTW Tonga's head was very large as well, I can only imagine the enormity of Andre. I will have to believe 7'2"+ for a prime Andre.
That's real cool that you met Haku , I'm a big fan of his aswell , he may have looked like a baby beside Andre , but I'm sure he looks huge in person. Where did u meet him? miko says on 26/Oct/09
Great video Vegas. 6"6 Hogan looks huge there next to Andre.
If Andre was really 7"1 then he should have 7 inches on Hulk there in the back stage promo, I'm struggling to even see 5.
Andre looks hardly impressive in the ring either, he's not dwarfing any of them like he should supposedly do, Hogan and Studd stack up to him really well. I'm seeing a 6"11 max guy there.
I'm sure some people will claim that Hogan is in 3 inch lifts or something because that would be the only way to somehow back up a 7 foot plus Andre.
Hogans boots are flat. Studds boots are....flat. Mamun says on 26/Oct/09
Thank you my friends for all of your kind comments ! I just loved that Doctor one ! I really do need to see a
Doctor ! Numbers and references anyone ? Kelso ?
Back to the point ! Ghost I agree with you on one thing . That is if I want to prove something , it's my job
to back it up and not other people's job . Here are my unbreakable points . Lets see if you can break em' ?
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1) This first comparison picture of Andre / Bundy / My self / 7' 8" Alam Channa / my 6' 7" cousin / Gene
was articulately done by my friend RED using 5' 7" Gene as reference . Now I am not talking about height
here . But you can all see how Andre's head dwarf's even that of a 7' 8" tall Alam Channa . Now I would
also like to state here that Alam Channa's dimensions are not little . He had for a long time till Mathew
Mcgrory took the title had the largest feet in the world . Please check out the GBWR Int'l edition from
1991 . I have met Channa twice . Believe me when you stand in front of this guy , it's going to be a
sight you won't forget .
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2) Here is a comparison photo of Andre and according to GBWR 2000, the tallest wrestler in the world ,
7' 6" Giant Gonzalez . Now again I am not comparing heights here , only the sizes of their heads and
Andre's head is larger by far !
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3) An out of prime Andre and super prime Paul white . looks like Paul's head comes out smaller and
you can't give me the " His wearing an afro " excuse !
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4) Andre and 7' 1.25 Wilt . The only thing making Wilt as tall as Andre is his super long legs ! Please
also compare Andre's head with that of a prime 6 ' + Arnold .
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5) Andre and Giant Haystack ! If you are going to use Andre's Afro as an excuse , then I will simply
say Haystack beard is giving him an advantage too .
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6) Barefoot Andre with a 6' 2" Vince with 0.75 foot wear advantage . So him being in front of the camera
cancels out .
What do you say Ghost ? I think you are now wishing that you had never asked me to post the evidence !
Because now everyone can see that Andre was not only a giant with giant proportions , but he was also
gigantic among giants . And again I had only used these above photos to compare head size . So far
nobody's head even come close to Andre's !
Regards
Supermun MikeW says on 25/Oct/09
Ghost: I did NOT post the pic with Andre, OMG and Bundy. I posted the pic with Andre and Heenan (i.e., the one in which Andre was sticking his chest out and had good posture). aramx says on 25/Oct/09
Boss, Andre undoubtfully has a massive head which I estimate around 13 inches but it is still very unlikely his head is 14 inches or more in length! The only way his head could be that big is if his eyes were located at the half way height of his face which we know wasn't the case. Marotte says on 25/Oct/09
Boss how do you know that big show's head was smaller than andre's? Vegas says on 25/Oct/09
this is a good video, first we see a 37 year old andre and hogan together (looks the same difference as in 1987 staredowns), second we see studd pass vince mcmahon (anyone claiming 6'7+ for studd or lifts for studd pause at 1.20 seconds), third we see a decent staredown between hogan and studd (looks about the same as the fralic/studd staredown both in height and weight) and fourth we get a close up of andres boots which dismisses boss' myth that everyone andre wrestled had 1 inch more footwear, as you can see andre and studd are wearing identical footwear Click Here Clay says on 24/Oct/09
I agree with general93 Andre Khali, and Show are true giants whereas guys like Kane/Taker/Matt Morgan/Studd etc. are big men, but at least they look human. Gigantor says on 24/Oct/09
Andre's head had to be at least 16" long, I think it is because of Andre's ponderous cranium, he appears shorter than he really is. Most Pro Wrestlers have larger than average heads, examples; Greg Valentine, Harley Race, Boris zukoff, 'Earthquake' Tenta etc. Even if a guy is by Andre's chin, Andre is still over a foot taller. Andre's head to height ratio might be 1/5, given his stature, that's unbelievable. Gigantor says on 24/Oct/09
Andre's head had to be at least 14" long, I think it is because of Andre's ponderous cranium, he appears shorter than he really is. Most Pro Wrestlers have larger than average heads, examples; Greg Valentine, Harley Race, Boris zukoff, 'Earthquake' Tenta etc. Even if a guy is by Andre's chin, Andre is still over a foot taller. Andre's head to height ratio might be 1/5, given his stature, that's unbelievable. Gigantor says on 24/Oct/09
Hey guys, today I met one of my Pro Wrestling idols; 'Tonga' Fifita, aka 'Haku' or 'Meng'. Tonga and Andre held the WWF tag team championship in late 1989 to early 1990, I am 5'11" and weigh about 260lbs, I felt small next to Tonga as he had me by at least 2 inches and about 50lbs. His hands were enormous, and his legs were like tree trunks. The man is a good and sincere Human Being as he took some time to talk to me about the old days. I could not believe how large Tonga was because he appeared pixieish in comparison to Andre, I asked him how large Andre was and he said over a foot taller than him and further said Andre's hands were 3 times bigger than his, BTW Tonga's head was very large as well, I can only imagine the enormity of Andre. I will have to believe 7'2"+ for a prime Andre. Gigantor says on 24/Oct/09
Hey guys, today I met one of my Pro Wrestling idols; 'Tonga' Fifita, aka Haku or Meng. Tonga and Andre held the WWF tag team championship in late 1989 to early 1990, I am 5'11" and weigh about 260lbs, I felt small next to Tonga as he had me by at least 2 inches and about 50lbs. His hands were enormous, and his legs were like tree trunks. The man is a good and sincere Human Being as he took some time to talk to me about the old days. I could not believe how large Tonga was because he appeared pixieish in comparison to Andre, I asked him how large Andre was and he said over a foot taller than him and further said Andre's hands were 3 times bigger than his, BTW Tonga's head was very large as well, I can only imagine the enormity of Andre. I will have to believe 7'2"+ for a prime Andre aramx says on 24/Oct/09
Andre, as a general consensus on this forum, does have an impressively large head but I doubt his head was 14 inches! His eyes are located at least 60 % of the total height of his face whereas 'typically' a human's eye level is suppose to be at the mid height of the face. IF his eyes were closer to only 50 % of his facial height, then his head would probably be closer to 14 or more inches in height like some of you guys are suggesting! btw, sorry for starting this arguement on Andre's head size again, but I just had to clarify a few things. André the Giant says on 24/Oct/09
One Man Gang was probably a legit 6'6.5 man back in 1987-1988..yes andre dosen't look that tall in the picture with andre standing on the box..but rembember he is standing way behind all the other guys..if he would stand next to OMG or even back to back ther would be a 4.5 inches different..andre was around 6'11 in his WWF heel run 1987-1988..but a peak Andre is a different guestion...i used to think a peak andre was 7'2..but thats wrong i know..but i think after looking,searching and comparing a lots of pictures,videos and comments.. peak Andre 7'0.25-5 out of the bed barefoot.. (1973-1975) Steve says on 24/Oct/09
Chris excellent photos to compare Andres height! You should find more like these if you have them. That photo of Andre not on the box is probably the best photo so far as he is standing up and straight, no one can argue he is slouching. I dont know how tall OMG is but Andre has at most 2 inches on him in that photo. If OMG is a solid 6'6, Andre looks around 6'8 - 6'9 max. JT says on 24/Oct/09
dicksock says on 22/Oct/09
....Studd's head could have been 11" for all you know.
Fine, let's assume it's 11 inches long. Click Here Andre's head is still not even close to 13 inches long. I'm sure Rob will confirm that an 11 inch long head is absurdly huge unless the guy's an acromegalic giant. Andre's head from the eyes down was huge; Andre's head from the eyes up was just average-sized and usually hidden by that afro. Mikew says on 23/Oct/09
Vegas: I am more than ready to discuss and debate any pic, the one with Heenan included. I have yet to see any evidence that Andre was standing on anything in that photo. That having been said, I'm not claiming that any one photo is dispositive. The photo that I acknowledged was not useful in gauging Andre's height was the Survivor pic in which everyone's height looks way off (e.g., OMG and Bundy), whether Andre was standing on something or whether the pic was otherwise "off" for some reason. For example, Andre standing on something would not have caused Bundy to look relatively shorter than he appeared relative to some of the other wrestlers in the photo. Something's just "off", across the board, with the Survivor photo. Mikew says on 23/Oct/09
JT: are you ever going to stop repeating your completely made up assertion that Andre had a small forehead, sometimes adding in the qualifier "relatively?" No matter how many times you say it, it's not going to suddenly become true. Boss says on 23/Oct/09
If Big Show has a 12 inch head then Andre's head is at least 13 inches. Andre's head was minimal 1 or more inches longer than Big Show's head for sure and it was all around much larger. It head was massive. I 185 cm and my head is 10 inches and it fits my body just fine. Andre was in the 7' area and his head look huge even on his massive body. Look at how much bigger his head is than 7'1 1/16 Wilt. LG69 says on 23/Oct/09
JT, Bob Uecker has always been listed at 6'1".That was his peak height. I've seen him on talk shows in the past, and he looks right around 6'. In the video of Uecker interviewing Andre, he is 11-12" shorter than Andre. Andre wasn't even at his peak but he had 1 foot over Uecker. Rick says on 23/Oct/09
Mamun says on 23/Oct/09
Andre had the largest head of anyone in human history ! Please prove me wrong!
Next thing you'll be telling us is that Andre single handedly overturned a car with 4 people inside and drank 1,432 beers and passed out in a hotel bar in Reading, Pennsylvania. Kelso says on 23/Oct/09
Mamum your obsession with Andre has gone to far, you really need to make an appointment with a doctor. Ghost says on 23/Oct/09
Mamun,
Didn't you claim that Studd wore huge lifts? So in your view a prime Andre would have actually had Studd barefeet by more than your claimed 7 inches. Perhaps 9? I guess Andre really was 7'5 then... Mamun says on 23/Oct/09
My friend The Ben , I have also asked to be proven wrong !
Regards
Supermun Mamun says on 23/Oct/09
My friend The Ben , I have also asked to be proven wrong !
Regards
Supermun Ghost says on 23/Oct/09
And as Vegas pointed out, it was indeed Mikew who last posted the pic of Andre, Bundy and OMG to prove the difference it made when Andre stood straight.
Then when it was proved that he was standing on a box, the pic suddenly didn't matter. Talk about logic.
And there was never 7 inches between Andre and Studd. How could that even be when Studd was taller than Hogan and Hogan was never more than absolute MAX 6 inches shorter than Andre? Isn't that like saying Andre was 8 inches taller than Hogan? Now there's a joke... Ghost says on 23/Oct/09
Mamun says on 23/Oct/09
Andre had the largest head of anyone in human history ! Please prove me wrong!
Regards
Supermun
No, if you make a claim it's your job to back it up, not the other people's job to prove it wrong.
I think some people here are getting very annoying and rude to those who think Andre was under 7 feet. Similarily people seem to have started to think Andre had the biggest Hands, head, feet & whatever ever recorded. The hero-worshipping is getting out of hand and everybody with a differing opinion is mercilessly bullied.
6'11 or 6'11,5 prime
6'10 later
And for my money Andre's head was the same size as Show's. Show's head is larger than Khali's and unless you believe Khali has a normal sized head Andre's head would comes out as 14 inches or something which we all know was not the case. The Ben says on 23/Oct/09
Mamun says on 23/Oct/09
Andre had the largest head of anyone in human history ! Please prove me wrong!
Regards
Supermun
Mamun you do seem like a very nice guy but i do wonder about some of the things you say? Andre the largest head in human history???... Where did you get this from? It's total rubbish! general93 says on 23/Oct/09
andre was a giant studd wasnt andres hands and head were extremely enlarged due to his disease he had a very large and long back his legs where short for his frame.studds head is irrelevant studd was a very large man and his name is brought up by jr or micheal cole anytime there talking about big men. again show andre and khali would be put in the same bracket for giants 7ft+ and the 6'7-9" range would be taker kane sid and studd. JT says on 23/Oct/09
Nice pics again Chris.
dicksock, post a pic of your mug next to a 12 inch ruler so we can see this 10.5" noggin. Steamboat's an average sized guy; Studd's head is not that much larger. Click Here His beard also added to the perceived length of his head. I doubt Taker's head would even be 11 inches long and it's not close in size to Big Show's or even Khali's.
Near the end of this video of Andre Click Here his hair's sweaty so you can see how strangely shaped and relatively small his forehead was. There's also a brief shot of him at the end walking side by side with a security guard not all that much smaller than him.
general93 says on 22/Oct/09
bob uecker 6'1"....
Right Click Here Click Here If you're going to make things up, why not just claim Uecker was 7'1"? Mamun says on 23/Oct/09
Andre had the largest head of anyone in human history ! Please prove me wrong!
Regards
Supermun Marble90 says on 23/Oct/09
It was pretty obvious that andre was standing on something in that one picture but thats one of the few moments where ive seen him stand on something ( that and the vince interview) Vegas says on 23/Oct/09
Mikew; you started the whole "on the box" thing with the andre/heenan photo, claiming that was andre with good posture ;) people like me, JT, big show and chris have seen every photo there is posted on here multiple times, you post something, be ready to debate it Marotte says on 22/Oct/09
Great find chris I guess JT is not bias after all as a lot of people claimed. Anonymous says on 22/Oct/09
JT, andre's head was a good 2 inches longer than big show's. this can be easily determined by using photoshop and comparing it to other people used as scale, I.e. mean gene, bruno sammartino, vince mcmahon, and yes, Hulk Hogan.
again, your photo analysis SUCKS.
and where in the hell did you get a figure of 10.5 inches for john studd's head? ive seen hulk hogan in person standing next to me, and his head is easily 10.5+ inches. which would put john studd larger than 10.5 inches...
you are clueless, you should just give up and move on to another forum Anonymous says on 22/Oct/09
JT, andre's head was a good 2 inches longer than big show's. this can be easily determined by using photoshop and comparing it to other people used as scale, I.e. mean gene, bruno sammartino, vince mcmahon, and yes, Hulk Hogan.
again, your photo analysis SUCKS. Mikew says on 22/Oct/09
Fellas: supporters of a 7 foot plus peak Andre do not think Andre was 7'7"ish, or that the One Man Gang, in reality probably 6'7"ish, was closer to 6 feet on the dot, which the Survivor Series photo would otherwise appear to suggest given that Andre appeared to have a full head over OMG. Whether he was standing on something, or whether the photo was just "off," is irrelevant. It is clear that that photo can't intelligently be used as a judge of Andre's height at the time, much less at his peek. So this whole "was he on in box" diversion is nothing but a waste of time.
P.S. JT, again, repeating something over and over doesn't make it true, whether it's your claim that Andre's forehead was of average size, that Show's head equal in size to Andre's, or otherwise. No extra points for repeating unsupported assertions. aramx says on 22/Oct/09
JT thanks for clarifying everything I was trying to argue. Like I argued before, it is very unlikely Andre's head was 14 inches long. His huge afro easily covered how high the top of his head was, and his forehead was relatively small compared to his face much like Xishun and Muresan. Mamun says on 22/Oct/09
Mr. Box was a useful tool for Andre ? In what sense ? did take that Box
everwhere ? Like in the ring when he had 7 inchs on a young & prime Studd
in 1978 ? Or did he also use this Box to be in the picture with a 7' 1" +
Wilt Chamberlin ?? Kindly explain ?
regards
Mamun dicksock says on 22/Oct/09
JT, 10.5" is not that huge for a non "giant". My head is about that length and I am certainly not even close to a giant. I'm pretty big(not tall)but no giant. The average head length for a man is about 9.5" or so. Studd's head could have been 11" for all you know. I doubt it was less considering his huge size(6'6.5" 325lbs). You can't just do these bogus comparisons. There are a million other comparisons you could have done where Andre's head would come out bigger. And you say we have no idea where the top of his head was with the afro. That is a ridiculous thing to say. What about the pic of him and Buddy Baker or the pic of him at his brother's wedding or the Wilt pics for gods sake. Also, during the McMahon interview where he is standing on the box or the match against Wepner when he slicks his hair back during the match. Even with the afro, it's not that hard to see where the top of his head would be. Boss says on 22/Oct/09
Andre was in the 6'10.5-6'11 range by 1987. Don't forget they are all standing in front of Andre so they will appear taller looking in the photo. LG69 says on 22/Oct/09
In that photo of Andre standing(without a box) next to OMG, Andre is 3" taller, but OMG is actually in front of Andre. If he stood directly to the side of him Andre would have about 6" of height over him. So the photo is misleading imo. I've said before, and I'll say it again, Andre was not 7'4" or 7'5", but he was 7'at his peak. general93 says on 22/Oct/09
bob uecker 6'1" is at least 10" shorter than andre id say 12" myself andre would have had a footwear advantage id would think because he's in his wrestling gear but you'd still have to put him close to 7ft 1988 in that interview.going back to studd if he was 6'5-6" i think thats too short for your second tallest wrestler 85-89 i mean look at all the wrestlers 6'5" and over today in wwe.i mean i knew andre was on a box for that survivor series photo i never argued it however he still has close to 4" on 6'7" george gray. i-Clarke-93 says on 22/Oct/09
JT says on 22/Oct/09
Andre's head was likely in the 12 inch long range and no larger than Big Show's. Assuming John Studd had a 10.5” long head, which is huge for a non-pituitary giant: Click Here Andre did not have a large forehead. Plus, for most of his career, he wore the afro so you had no idea where the top of his head actually was.
Dalip Singh/Great Khali has a huge head and it’s still at least an inch smaller than Big Show’s: Click Here
kinggollum says on 20/Oct/09
[Editor Rob: 2010 could be the year of the 7ft andre listing
I spent some time talking to chris sarandon about andre, he had good words to say about princess bride.]
That would be great and closer to the truth.
If Sarandon says Andre was 7 feet though, we know he's mistaken since even the 7 foot + Andre fans here have him at around 6'10" at that point. In watching the cast comments on Andre, they all had nothing but good things to say about him.
The Princess Bride was filmed in 1986 or earlier , I beleive Andre was still around 6'11-6'11.5 at that point , which could easily mistaken for 7ft. Anonymous says on 22/Oct/09
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Here is a great video of Ladd and 6'8 Giant Baba who was over two inches taller than a 6'5.5 hogan maybe 6'6 Anonymous says on 22/Oct/09
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here is a guy taller than big show by two or more inches and look how well one man gang stacks up to him. About the Same as andre in ss match not that group picture. Anonymous says on 22/Oct/09
miko says on 22/Oct/09
Chris, thanks for those photos, that absolutely kills it.
Mr Box was a useful tool for Andre.
Fo one pic yet he still has over 5 inches on a 6'6 OMG at this stage in life. miko says on 22/Oct/09
Chris, thanks for those photos, that absolutely kills it.
Mr Box was a useful tool for Andre. JT says on 22/Oct/09
Andre's head was likely in the 12 inch long range and no larger than Big Show's. Assuming John Studd had a 10.5” long head, which is huge for a non-pituitary giant: Click Here Andre did not have a large forehead. Plus, for most of his career, he wore the afro so you had no idea where the top of his head actually was.
Dalip Singh/Great Khali has a huge head and it’s still at least an inch smaller than Big Show’s: Click Here
kinggollum says on 20/Oct/09
[Editor Rob: 2010 could be the year of the 7ft andre listing
I spent some time talking to chris sarandon about andre, he had good words to say about princess bride.]
That would be great and closer to the truth.
If Sarandon says Andre was 7 feet though, we know he's mistaken since even the 7 foot + Andre fans here have him at around 6'10" at that point. In watching the cast comments on Andre, they all had nothing but good things to say about him. Chris says on 21/Oct/09
Hi guys -
I hope these two photos help clear up some confusion that was started a couple of weeks ago with the Survivor Series 1987 photo (Andre, OMG, Bundy, Rude and Reed). Of course, Andre was standing on a box to emphasis his size over Bundy and Gang. I have met Gang (George Gray) and he is a solid 6'6"
Anyhow, here are two photos that will shed some light. The first is a high res. scan of the publicity photo....I have added the red arrow to show Andre's show sole that peeped into this photo. The second is a very rare photograph that was only shown once on Prime Time Wrestling on October 22, 1987. It shows the group with Andre not on a box. You can see the difference. Enjoy!
Publicity Photo
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Original Photo without a box
Click Here LG69 says on 21/Oct/09
Henry Winkler, who is about 5'6", looks 1.5 feet shorter than Show. I don't how much of a heel Show had, but it's pretty clear that he's 6'11-7'. What's up with Show's hand? It looks ridiculously big...almost fake. I know Andre's hands were even bigger, but Show's look funny. i-Clarke-93 says on 21/Oct/09
kinggollum says on 20/Oct/09
[Editor Rob: 2010 could be the year of the 7ft andre listing
I spent some time talking to chris sarandon about andre, he had good words to say about princess bride.]
That would be great and closer to the truth.
Yeah , I definetely agree with that , if Big Show is listed as 7ft then so should Andre as we have now established that a peak Andre and a peak Big Show were approximately the same height. 7ft plus for Andre. i-Clarke-93 says on 21/Oct/09
kinggollum says on 20/Oct/09
[Editor Rob: 2010 could be the year of the 7ft andre listing
I spent some time talking to chris sarandon about andre, he had good words to say about princess bride.]
That would be great and closer to the truth.
Yeah I definetely agree with that , If Big Show is listed at 7ft then so should Andre as we have now established that a peak Andre and a peak Big Show were approximately the same height. 7ft ?// Boss says on 21/Oct/09
Andre's head is bother longer and wider than Big Show's by far. Vegas says on 21/Oct/09
if andres head was 2.5 inches longer than wights then andres head was nearly 15 inches long.............
i think certain people on here are underestimating the size of wights head, andres head grew wider but i doubt it was much longer Click Here Click Here Click Here LV says on 20/Oct/09
That picture with Rivera is strange and we've discussed it before. It would make no sense that he be on his tippie toes just on his right foot, that's not going to give you any additional height. It seems clear that the floor and wall behind them is in bad shape. I wouldn't be suprised if the concrete on the floor wasn't level thus giving him the appearance he is on his tip toes just on one foot. kinggollum says on 20/Oct/09
[Editor Rob: 2010 could be the year of the 7ft andre listing
I spent some time talking to chris sarandon about andre, he had good words to say about princess bride.]
That would be great and closer to the truth. Rick says on 20/Oct/09
Mikew says on 20/Oct/09
P.S. We can now add Chief Strongbow to the list of wrestlers that Rick has encounterd over the years. Rick, one question: was your tall brother with you? Or was it your friend, I can't seem to remember?
Usually my brother, sometimes a friend, occasionally both. Hope that helps clear up your confusion. aramx says on 20/Oct/09
I've read even more comments on Andre's pretentious head size. Just makes me wonder if anyone here can name a few 7 footers with a comparable (OR perhaps even larger/longer) head size than Andre? I think it is safe to place his head length at 13 inches. I doubt his head would be 14 inches long. drk says on 20/Oct/09
that pic with 'Mike' and Big Show has gotta go; all it does is contradict the height Show is given right on his page and create extra arguments. There are plenty of other photos that are way better. Anonymous says on 20/Oct/09
JT , you are the worst photo analyst on the planet.. end of story, you understand nothing of geometry and scale.
as to andre /big show comparison photos, one must remember that andre's head is considerably longer than big show's by about 2-2.5 inches.
now that i have seen photos of andre standing next to the same japanese announcer as giant ****ing haystacks, before their fight, i can say that andre was 5 inches taller than giant haystacks. big show was about 6 inches taller than haystacks, but he also had on some JACKED up boots that made him huge, because they were trying to bill him at 7'4", something andre NEVER wore, he always had wrestling boots before a match dicksock says on 20/Oct/09
Vegas, you seem to be missing my point. I'm not saying Wight actually looks that short next to a 6'1.5" guy. I'm using that picture as proof that we must look at what the overall body of evidence shows and not just one or two random pics. That's why I get mad when I see people use the one known Andre/haystacks pic as proof that andre was under 7' or any of the other random obscere photos that people use. The OVERALL body of evidence shows Andre to be no less than 6'11.5" and no more than 7'1". The same can be said for a peak Big Show.
BTW, I don't know where anyone is getting info on Rivera's height but the only listing I've seen of him is 6'1". I didn't see the pic of him next to Bruno, who again may have been 5'11" at his peak. Then again if JT thinks a peak ric flair was only 5'11" then it doesn't suprise me to see Bruno at 5'10 max. Mikew says on 20/Oct/09
JT and Rick: Shoot me since I made a mistake and thought that guy was Rocky Johnson. Before we get too excited about "catching" me in a mistake, let's actually focus on the real issue. My point was that if the guy in that pic was 6'1-6"2 (mistakenly thinking it was Rocky), it would not even be possible, much less likely, for Andre to be below 7 feet. Of course, even if Rivera is 6 feet, or even 5'11" for that matter, that picture is still powerful evidence of a 7 foot plus Andre, though obviously the evidence becomes that much more conclusive the taller the gentleman (Rivera) is. If Andre raises his head, he easily has a full head (and Andre head) over both Strongbow and Rivera. So thanks for pointing out that Rivera was about 6'0".
P.S. We can now add Chief Strongbow to the list of wrestlers that Rick has encounterd over the years. Rick, one question: was your tall brother with you? Or was it your friend, I can't seem to remember?
(sorry Rick, I don't think I'm ready to take judicial notice of one of your other "meetings" with wrestlers) Marble90 says on 20/Oct/09
Its always like this tip toes closer to the camera cowboys boots standing on something other guy isnt standing straight cant see their feet etc etc etc Vegas says on 20/Oct/09
dicksock says on 14/Oct/09
I've still never heard anyone explain the picture at the top of Paul Wight's page. Big Show must have two inches on a peak Andre because we all know Andre didn't look as tall next to 6'1.5" Arnold,Vince,Bob Backland,Patera,Atlas,ect as Show does to Mike...give me a break. Andre stacks up to 6'6" Buddy Baker like Big Show does with 6'1.5" Mike.
wight is tops 6'9 if that photo with mike was the only thing we had to go on, a regular poster on here who went by the name of Jason (who claimed to have been ringside when wight stopped and stood beside him and looked no more than 6'7) saw that as final proof
if that photo with mike is correct then randy orton (whom you dicksock have defended as 6'5 last week or so) is only mikes height Click Here
if we take that mike photo at face value then undertaker is like 2 inches tops taller than mike and vince comes out 4 inches shorter than mike Click Here JT did a good comparison Click Here
i don't usually post photos because you can make anyone shorter using photos, its pretty easy, nobody argues that david hasselhoff is at least 6'4 but imagine that was the only photo we had to go on Click Here or if we wanted to upgrade orton to 6'8 we could post this Click Here
Click Here Vegas says on 20/Oct/09
dicksock says on 14/Oct/09
I've still never heard anyone explain the picture at the top of Paul Wight's page. Big Show must have two inches on a peak Andre because we all know Andre didn't look as tall next to 6'1.5" Arnold,Vince,Bob Backland,Patera,Atlas,ect as Show does to Mike...give me a break. Andre stacks up to 6'6" Buddy Baker like Big Show does with 6'1.5" Mike.
wight is tops 6'9 if that photo with mike was the only thing we had to go on, a regular poster on here who went by the name of Jason (who claimed to have been ringside when wight stopped and stood beside him and looked no more than 6'7) saw that as final proof
if that photo with mike is correct then randy orton (whom you dicksock have defended as 6'5 last week or so) is only mikes height Click Here
if we take that mike photo at face value then undertaker is like 2 inches tops taller than mike and vince comes out 4 inches shorter than mike Click Here JT did a good comparison Click Here
i don't usually post photos because you can make anyone shorter using photos, its pretty easy, nobody argues that david hasselhoff is at least 6'4 but imagine that was the only photo we had to go on Click Here or if we wanted to upgrade orton to 6'8 we could post this Click Here
Click Here dicksock says on 20/Oct/09
About Andre's 6'10" billings in the late 60's: Every website I look at says it's possible for men to grow until age 25(1971 for Andre). Given the fact the Andre never had his acromegaly treated, isn't likely he grew periodically through at least the first half of his 20's? Especially since the greatest number of 6'11 and 7' billings occur in 1969. JT says on 20/Oct/09
Click Here The right heel looks off the ground. That's why the top of the right boot and the right knee are higher than the top of the left boot and the left knee. The heel of the left boot is on higher ground than the heel of the guy to Andre's right with the black boot. I'm not the one smugly claiming this pic with "Rocky Johnson" proves Andre is 7 feet when that's not even Johnson in the pic. Rick says on 19/Oct/09
JT says on 19/Oct/09
That's not Rocky Johnson; it's Victor Rivera. Click Here Rivera was around 1-2 inches taller than 5'10" Bruno Sammartino.
Exactly. He appears to be the same height as Scarpa/Strongbow in that pic and I've met the Chief numerous times between '72 and and the early 80's and then again in the mid 90's when he was a road agent. He always looked around 5'11"-6' tall cause he was slighlty shorter than me and I'm 6'1". So, Mikew, I guess it is possible for Andre to be under 7' since the guy you thought was 6'2" is really nearly 3" shorter. Me says on 19/Oct/09
Talk about desperate & emotional. JT you are running out of excuses. It has become abundantly clear that when Andre had good posture from his peak years which was from the mid/late 60's to early to mid 70's he was all of 7'+.
Tippy toes,higher ground wow. I have no problem conceding he stood on boxes or there were bad camera angles, but being stubborn for stubborn sake isn't considered strong willed or head strong it is called stupidity.
Sorry Rob I do not mean to pile on but enough is enough. That pic has been around and posted many times and now he is on his tippy toes??? Trust me if Andre, with his enormous feet, was on his tippy toes he would be considerably taller.
aarod I have requested the same thing of Rob and possibly if he feels he has found sufficent evidence then he will go for a peak height and a death height.
IMO 7'1" peak and 6'10" death due to not being able to stand up straight etc.... Rick says on 19/Oct/09
aarod says on 16/Oct/09
We KNOW andre lost significant height over his lifespan because he never had his acromegaly treated.
Do we? I met Andre both in the early and late 80's which was pre and post surgery,etc. and although there was a difference in height,it seemed to be attributed to his poor posture.
aarod says on 16/Oct/09
We KNOW he wasnt 7'4". but there is PLENTY of photographic evidence to support even up to 7'1" in height for andre.
And there also seems to be plenty of photographic evidence supporting a less than 7' Andre. Boss says on 19/Oct/09
If you say John Studd 6'7 which is the lowest height I've ever seen for Studd anywhere then they'll say he's 6'6. They downgrade anyones height to fit their story. Buddy Baker is 6'6 and they'll say 6'5. They are now claiming legti Ernie Ladd was not 6'9 with no evidence to back it like usual. They actually swore up and down that legit 7'1 1/16 Wilt Chamberlin was only 7'0.5 till I proved that one wrong because Andre looked to close to 7' for their liking. they downgrade Vince, Hogan, Haystacks, Baba, Piper, Graham, Rhodes, Monsoon, and just about every other wrestle in history and these aren't their billed heights they downgrade their actual heights. Except for their favourite wrestler Big Slow. Why do they do this because if any of these heights are correct then Andre was 7' at his peak. Boss says on 19/Oct/09
Victor Rivera is 6'1. JT and Vegas if you look at different people's pages on here downgrade almost every person's height on this site to make their views sound right and they are Meltzer marks and like Meltzer they dislike Andre for some reason or other. Danimal says on 19/Oct/09
JT says on 19/Oct/09
Mikew says on 17/Oct/09
I don't know how it would even be possible for Andre to be under 7 feet given the photo with 6'2" Rocky Johnson, included in Boss's group of photos. Click here Click Here Seriously, even dropping Johnson to 6'1", is it even possible that Andre is below 7 feet? I'd like to hear the JT/Vegas explanation for this photo.
That's not Rocky Johnson; it's Victor Rivera. Click Here Rivera was around 1-2 inches taller than 5'10" Bruno Sammartino. Andre looks like he's either on his tippy toes again or on higher ground in that pic.
WOW JT, getting desperate now, are we? Either on his tippy toes or on higher ground??? PLEASE. |