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dicksock says on 3/Sep/10
chaz says:dicksock,that is not JT's comparason Andre/Shoemaker that is a real photo,and has there is no distance between the object bodys,ie they are in contact,it is allmost 100% right.
I know it's a real photo. That was my point. He is saying you can't use that photo with Haddad and mamun and compare it with Andre yet both of you reference the shoemaker photo even though Andre is 100% behind shoemaker. If one isn't good than neither is the other. Plus nobody knows how tall Haddad is anyway. He could be 7' for all we know. Andre was at least a weak 6'11" for sure.
On a side note, I believe the Howard Finkel story as well as the Booker T story Mamun told. There is no way they are that big of liars. You would have to be crazy to make up that kind of stuff. Just because these guys said Andre was 7'1" doesn't make it true. That guy on youtube who claimed to have interviewed Andre also thought Andre looked 7'2". Terry Todd also thought Andre was at least 7' in his prime according to jt. I even believe Rick's stories. Just because someone thinks he was a certain height doesn't mean he was. Plenty of people have pegged me at 5'7" and others at 5'11", but the truth is 5'10". So if people can't tell that, I wouldn't really trust them with Andre the Giant. Based on the evidence presented, it's clear he was NEVER above 7'. I can't imagine him being under 6'11" in his prime though.
JT says on 2/Sep/10
I guess a few of us here are just picking on poor old Andre. Why is it then that I can slap a ruler on a pic of Khali with John Morrison, who looks at least 5’11” barefoot and has a slight camera advantage, and Khali still comes out pretty close to 7’2” in boots? Click Here It's only bad luck Andre who always seems to end up 2 inches shorter than what many here hope for. This is if we match 5’8” Dynamite Kid up to Morrison Click Here As expected, Andre in cowboy boots comes out around 2 inches shorter than Khali. You don’t even need to use comparison photos to tell that Andre in cowboy boots had nowhere near 17 inches on Dynamite Kid, who is wearing sandals b/c we can see the toes on his right foot.
NCL, look at the end of the video when Fralic is right in Studd’s face and around an inch shorter. You can see Gene in between them, and he never looks down once.
Dicksock, when did I ever try peg Andre’s height on just one photo with Shoemaker? He’s obviously standing behind Shoemaker and therefore looks well under 7 feet even in cowboy boots, which he is not. I used that photo to compare with the photo of Richard Kiel standing in the identical position behind Barbara Bach. clay says on 2/Sep/10
I'd say a peak Andre is taller than a peak Khali. Ramona Davis says on 2/Sep/10
and here I thought I was tall at 6 ft. 1 in. ( 185 cm ). I'm only one of the tallest women in Cincinnati, Ohio. Anonymous says on 2/Sep/10
Kareem and Shoemaker wax figures at Maddam toussaud's in NY
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aarod says on 1/Sep/10
find me a billing of dynamite kid at 5'8". he was billed at 5'10"
hahaha... Dynamite was billed at 5'8" in Stampede. Davey Boy at 5'9". Bret Hart at 5'11"... I had an old magazine. Sorry, I threw it out. Big Show says on 2/Sep/10
aarod says on 1/Sep/10
big show, he was measured in college, i don't know what age that was, probably less than 22. The photo you just showed is a just a publicity photo... do you see a tape measure ANYWHERE in that photo of kareem? no, you just see a lazily slouching kareem leaning against a wall,shoulders rold foward, not even standing up strait, his feet pointed outward, and the coach using a legal pad as a straight edge. no pencil, no marks, no ruler. the legal pad, judging from the shadow is a few inches from the wall, so there is obviously no actual measurement being made, especially since the legal pad isn't pressed into his head, its sitting on the top of kareem's afro like it's a shelf.
Yeah I know you will dismiss every type of evidence that doesn't support you're agenda, even proof of measurements still gets rejected by you. Maybe next time we should just say we met some friend of Kareem who told us at what height he was measured at a certain age in a certain country and not provide any type of evidence to support that claim. I know you will accept that, as you had no problem believing the unsubstansiated and (still after 2 years) unproven claims from Andre's measurements by another poster here. Chaz says on 2/Sep/10
aarod,if Dynamite Kid was 5'10''then Haystacks must have been nere he's billed 6'11'',and Big Daddy must have been 6'4'' and John Quinn 6'6''and dicksock,that is not JT's comparason Andre/Shoemaker that is a real photo,and has there is no distance between the object bodys,ie they are in contact,it is allmost 100% right. Anon says on 1/Sep/10
Jt with the box full of excuses again what a surprise !!!! NCL says on 1/Sep/10
JT says on 1/Sep/10
OmarG, so how exactly did Finkel know that Fralic was on his tippy toes? From Mean Gene? Gene never looked down once at their feet, so that story doesn’t hold. Maybe it came from aarod, our resident liar? The video never suggests that Fralic was on his toes at any time. He just walks over to Studd and gets in his face. That purported claim by Finkel and the other ones conveniently mirror the claims raised by some on this site. Sorry, not buying it.
I'm sure people are going to want to shoot me for this, I'm not picking on you particularly JT but it seems more on this page than on any others if you have even the slightest disagreement people throw hissy fits, but I think that story could be true. Look at the video from 18sec-24sec Click Here there's definitely 1 sold inch there and maybe two IMO
Plus, Mene Gene could have looked down at one point. It's not like there's a close-up on his eyes, how could you be 100% sure he didn't look down?
omar g, I believe Fink told you those things. I'm not 100% sure I agree or not, but I think it's possible. Anonymous says on 1/Sep/10
omar g says on 30/Aug/10
Well guys i was at Summerslam this year in Los Angeles and i had a very long interesting conversation with Howard Finkle at Fan axxess.i asked him about Andre.without any kayfabe or exaggeration i told him that theres been tons of back and fourth with debates over Andres height and i really wanted to aked you how tall Andre was at peak,mid life,and at death.and he told me that he was gonna break it down for me cuz he spent years traveling with Andre.he told me that during the early and mid 70's Andre was at least a solid 7'1 and as years went by he was in pain and his posture was terrible.and during wrestlemania 3 he was still 6'11 all the way up until late 90 when his was health was getting worse and he was traveling to Japan his weight was getting out of control and he was eating and drinking 2-3 times more than usual and the last time he saw Andre had just came back from his very last trip to Japan where he teamed with bam bam bigelow in 1992 and he said he knew Andre was in his final days as he looked very ill,depressed,and extremly overweight.Finkle said that Andres spine was bending due to his disease which caused him to slouch and not be able to walk normal so it seemed like he was 6'9 or shorter but if Andre stood straight up with perfect posture he was still 6'10 at the time of death.i also asked him about the Andre Wilt picture and he said he knew there was a picture of them 2 out there but he's never seen it so he couldnt comment on it.but he thought wilt would of edged out Andre at least by an inch or 2 at that time.i asked also about big john studd and he told me if you notice that some of studds matches from 84-86 studd sometimes looked taller and sometimes looks shorter is because studd was the king of lifts cuz hes always wanted to measur up to andre.he claimed Studd was 6'7 and i also asked him how do you explain the stare down from wrestlemania 2 with studd and bill fralic and he told me that vince was furious with that interview cuz acourding to mean gene Fralic was tip toeing a bit to size up to studd and it didnt come off as studd looking like a giant next to nfl players.he said fralic was about 2 inches shorter that studd.i was so glad,happy and relieved that i asked Howard Finkle those questions ive been wondering for quite some time,and im glad i stopped him and he took the time to talk and answer me in what i think is the closest i will ever get to knowing the truth.i hope this helped a bit.
You made all of this up. I don't believe a word you wrote. Anonymous says on 1/Sep/10
Big Show says on 30/Aug/10
Andre & The Dynamite Kid (Andre's nearly as wide as that hallway they're standing in).
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Dynamite was billed at 5'8" earlier on in his career, so that was his max height. Andre looking very wide indeed in that pic. NCL says on 1/Sep/10
This should be very very interesting Click Here allegedly, a 6'9" woman is going to be on NXT next season. If she really is that big, I wonder if they'll ever let her stand next to 'Taker, Kane, etc...
Click Here dicksock says on 1/Sep/10
jt says:That George Haddad guy is standing behind Dynamite whereas Andre is basically side by side with him so a comparison is not fair. Click Here Dynamite is Mamun’s height, which makes for an interesting comparison Click Here
Yeah, it's kind of like your Andre/Shoemaker comparison... Mamun says on 1/Sep/10
Thank you JT for your kind contributions !
Regards
Supermun aarod says on 1/Sep/10
big show, he was measured in college, i don't know what age that was, probably less than 22. The photo you just showed is a just a publicity photo... do you see a tape measure ANYWHERE in that photo of kareem? no, you just see a lazily slouching kareem leaning against a wall,shoulders rold foward, not even standing up strait, his feet pointed outward, and the coach using a legal pad as a straight edge. no pencil, no marks, no ruler. the legal pad, judging from the shadow is a few inches from the wall, so there is obviously no actual measurement being made, especially since the legal pad isn't pressed into his head, its sitting on the top of kareem's afro like it's a shelf.
are you trying to tell me now that Kareem's height is 7'1 5/8" fom the top of his afro? c'mon man, you are smarter than that. aarod says on 1/Sep/10
JT, i love how you always "stretch" the truth about your comparisons. dynamite kid is towards the front of andre's body. andre's arms are behind dynamite kid. dynamite also wasnt 5'8", he was 5'9" ( billed at 5'10" ). AND the funny thing is, based on your poor scaling, your ruler has andre's head at 13.5" head, which of course, CANNOT be since you think he had a 12 inch head. you are all kinds of f-ed up, JT.
i love how you use reverse scaling to justify your point of a sub 7 foot andre, when in fact, you should be using forward scaling.
I also dont see how you can tell what in the hell kind of footware dynamite kid is wearing, since his feet are so damned small, his trousers almost completely cover his feet. also, if your little "ruler" is accurate, then those cowboy boots only give andre 1.5 inches of height. the heel tapes out at 1.5" . see for yourself. aarod says on 1/Sep/10
find me a billing of dynamite kid at 5'8". he was billed at 5'10" Vegas says on 1/Sep/10
tiny little head?? Click Here JT says on 1/Sep/10
That’s a very useful photo Big Show b/c Dynamite Kid’s billed height was 5’8”, which is about what he looked. Dynamite (slouching slightly) has sandals on and Andre (reaching for the stars) is in his usual cowboy boots: Click Here The other guy must be one of the harts.
That George Haddad guy is standing behind Dynamite whereas Andre is basically side by side with him so a comparison is not fair. Click Here Dynamite is Mamun’s height, which makes for an interesting comparison Click Here
Haddad with Kareem Click Here The photo with Sid is at too low an angle to make a decent comparison.
That guy is definitely an acromegalic giant and probably a similar height and head size as Andre but not nearly his weight (from the mid-70s onward).
OmarG, so how exactly did Finkel know that Fralic was on his tippy toes? From Mean Gene? Gene never looked down once at their feet, so that story doesn’t hold. Maybe it came from aarod, our resident liar? The video never suggests that Fralic was on his toes at any time. He just walks over to Studd and gets in his face. That purported claim by Finkel and the other ones conveniently mirror the claims raised by some on this site. Sorry, not buying it. omar g says on 31/Aug/10
you could see at the 59 second mark that fralic stood up a little higher towards the end.so he might of just stepped up a bit for that staredown.and i have no idea about the 1975 photo.im just going on what finkle was saying which sounds pretty accurate. Anonymous says on 31/Aug/10
Giant Gonzales 7'6.5-7
Max Palmer 7'4-5
Silo Sam 7'4-5
Andre the Giant 7'1-1.5
Giant Silva 7'2
Yeti 7'1-2
Great Khali 7'1-1.5
Big Show 7'0.5
Eli Cottonwood 7'0
Kurrgan 6'10-11
Kevin Nash 6'9.5-10
Matt Morgan 6'9
Nathan Jones 6'10
Tyler Mane 6'8.5-9
Undertaker 6'8
Kane 6'8
Sid 6'7.5
John Studd 6'7
Hulk Hogan 6'5.6-6 Red says on 31/Aug/10
I can´t see Barkley under 6´6", he appears even taller because of his tiny little head!
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Barkley 6´6.25"
Fralic 6´5"
Vegas says on 31/Aug/10
...if he was then he can't have been 6'5 barefoot because at no time was he over a full head taller than mene gene...
What´s your height for Meane Gene? What´s your heights for Fralics and Barkleys heads? Mamun says on 31/Aug/10
Thank You sooooooooooooo much my dear friend King Red ! I am ever soo grateful
to you . George Hadda passed away in 1998 . But he was living in Dubai most
of his life . Every kid in Dubai would know him and call him " JAWS II " ! We
would offen argue with him about who was taller , him or Richard Kiel ? He
would always say he was an inch taller at 7' 3" .
Red please give me your mailing address becuase I want to mail you a nice
Steak dinner !
Kind regards
Supermun Vegas says on 31/Aug/10
dynamite kid was listed 5'8, that guy looks more 6'8 with him, if andre was 7'2 in his boots he should have 17 inches on dynamite (5'9 in shoes), not seeing 17 inches there sorry Big Show says on 31/Aug/10
aarod says on 30/Aug/10
everyone thinks kareem was measured at 7'1 5/8", this is false. he was measured in college using a tape measure that MAXED out at 7'1 5/8" ( 7 foot seamstress tape measure with 1 5/8" extra at the end of it of blank space). he was actually taller than the tape measure. His coach discussed it in an interview.
He was still in college at age 22??? Red says on 31/Aug/10
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I think your estimation for Haddad is spot on Mamun!
Andre was no less than 7´2" in his cowboyboots, so Haddad looks 6´11.5" in shoes.
My estimations:
Andre 7´0.5 peak, strong 6´11" during the eighties, strong 6´10" early nineties
Haddad 6´10.5" Vegas says on 31/Aug/10
aarod, what are you talking about, kareem was measured while in the nba at 22 years old in 1969 Click Here
omar i don't buy that story that fralic was on his toes, if he was then he can't have been 6'5 barefoot because at no time was he over a full head taller than mene gene Click Here gene was not a tall man, he was barely and i mean barely taller than regis philbin at WM7 and rob has philbin @ 5'6 peak; if we compare how charles barkley measured up to mene gene he clearly has him by over a head Click Here Chaz says on 31/Aug/10
aarod you do talk rubish,I measure my height and my kids with a 5' tape I just mark on the wall at 5' then measure up the next 10.75''lol so he's coach was a low grade moron then,who could not work that out lol. Chaz says on 31/Aug/10
yer sure omarg,so how do you explain Andre being less that 2' taller than 4'11''Willie Shoemaker in 1975 then ?,aarod, omarg, Mamun,you are like the Dr's who would not beleve Louis Pasteur when he said bacteria cause disease lol Mamun says on 31/Aug/10
Dear posters ! I have a favour to ask of you ! This is my friend George Haddad
of Dubai ! He was very popularly known in Dubai as " JAWS II "(RICHARD KIEL'S
twin Brother ) . He was known to be 7' 3" but you can see that is not the
case . However when the WWF wrestlers came to Dubai in 1996 , he did have a
few inchs on both Syco Sid & The Undertaker !So I would say is was between
6' 10" to 6' 11" ! Here are George and a few WWF wrestlers ; -
Me & George
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George & Crush ( Brian Adams )
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George & Vader
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George & Dynamite Kid and Bad News Alen
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Now here is Dynamite Kid & Andre in exactly the same posture , position and
same time ! My request goes out to King aarod , King Red , Chris or anyone
else who might be interested to do a comparison picture between him and
Andre and possibly him and Alam Channa , Sid , kane , Kavin Nash , Tiny Ron
or even Kareen Abdul jabbar . What is very fascinting about this guy was
that like Andre , he gives the impression that he isn't very tall . But
once he stood next to Sid & UT , he was actually taller !
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To prove my point , here is Bad News Alan with the so called 7 foot Giant
Worrior ! It looks like George is taller ! I shall be very grateful the
comparisons as I had always wondered how tall this guy really was !
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Regards
Supermun
who might be interested Mikew says on 30/Aug/10
Big Show says on 29/Aug/10
I don’t regard it as impossible if a man who’s between 6’10” and 6’11” to be billed at 6’10”.
Perhaps not impossible, but surely unlikely, given the obvious interest in rounding up, not down, not just any man, but a wrestler who the promoters are trying to promote and sell as a "giant." Face it, your argument (i.e., that Andre was under 7 feet on account of these old billings) would be a lot more consistent if you just clung to the 6'10" billing, the rationale being that he would never have been billed under his true height, any rounding to be up, not down. But alas, you yourself know, from the vast body of pictorial/video evidence, that a flat 6'10" is very unlikely, and so you proceed to the next "best" option (i.e., 6'10"-6'11"). But doing so is a problem because any intellectual purity behind your argument is long gone, as you have tacitly admitted that the 6'10" billing was "wrong." You cannot hide behind the "impossible" card (i.e., that it is "possible" Andre was between 6'10" and 6'11" but was rounded down). Your between 6'10" and 6'11" estimate implicitly, whether you admit it or not, acknowledges that either: (a) the 6'10" billing was erroneous and/or not updated; or (b) Andre grew subsequent to the 6'10" billing, just as Mamun and others have opined. Rey Mysterio says on 30/Aug/10
Andre El Gigante 7' 0" 213 centimetros
El Big Show 6'11 1/2" 212 centimetros
caso cerrado (case closed). dicksock says on 30/Aug/10
If Omar G's story is true, then Howard's peak Andre estimate is the same as Andre's 1971 billing at 218cm or just under 7'2". I find it strange that his billing went from 210cm to 218cm before he became famous. This was during the time he could have still been growing. This would have also been about the time he found out about his disease. Click Here Mamun says on 30/Aug/10
Dinners on me Omar g ! I have been telling the truth all along that Andre was
a barefoot 7' 1" in the early 70's and down to 6' 10" at death !
Very kind regards
Supermun aarod says on 30/Aug/10
everyone thinks kareem was measured at 7'1 5/8", this is false. he was measured in college using a tape measure that MAXED out at 7'1 5/8" ( 7 foot seamstress tape measure with 1 5/8" extra at the end of it of blank space). he was actually taller than the tape measure. His coach discussed it in an interview. aarod says on 30/Aug/10
yeah, andre was billed in centimeters 210 and 211, etc, but he was also a teenager when he started wrestling.. acromegalic ginats grow well into their late twenties in height, basically until their bones can no longer grow anymore...
peak andre 7'0.5" , about 6'10" at death, from back surgery, years of poor posture, and developed scoliosis caused by his medical condition omar g says on 30/Aug/10
Well guys i was at Summerslam this year in Los Angeles and i had a very long interesting conversation with Howard Finkle at Fan axxess.i asked him about Andre.without any kayfabe or exaggeration i told him that theres been tons of back and fourth with debates over Andres height and i really wanted to aked you how tall Andre was at peak,mid life,and at death.and he told me that he was gonna break it down for me cuz he spent years traveling with Andre.he told me that during the early and mid 70's Andre was at least a solid 7'1 and as years went by he was in pain and his posture was terrible.and during wrestlemania 3 he was still 6'11 all the way up until late 90 when his was health was getting worse and he was traveling to Japan his weight was getting out of control and he was eating and drinking 2-3 times more than usual and the last time he saw Andre had just came back from his very last trip to Japan where he teamed with bam bam bigelow in 1992 and he said he knew Andre was in his final days as he looked very ill,depressed,and extremly overweight.Finkle said that Andres spine was bending due to his disease which caused him to slouch and not be able to walk normal so it seemed like he was 6'9 or shorter but if Andre stood straight up with perfect posture he was still 6'10 at the time of death.i also asked him about the Andre Wilt picture and he said he knew there was a picture of them 2 out there but he's never seen it so he couldnt comment on it.but he thought wilt would of edged out Andre at least by an inch or 2 at that time.i asked also about big john studd and he told me if you notice that some of studds matches from 84-86 studd sometimes looked taller and sometimes looks shorter is because studd was the king of lifts cuz hes always wanted to measur up to andre.he claimed Studd was 6'7 and i also asked him how do you explain the stare down from wrestlemania 2 with studd and bill fralic and he told me that vince was furious with that interview cuz acourding to mean gene Fralic was tip toeing a bit to size up to studd and it didnt come off as studd looking like a giant next to nfl players.he said fralic was about 2 inches shorter that studd.i was so glad,happy and relieved that i asked Howard Finkle those questions ive been wondering for quite some time,and im glad i stopped him and he took the time to talk and answer me in what i think is the closest i will ever get to knowing the truth.i hope this helped a bit. Big Show says on 30/Aug/10
Andre & The Dynamite Kid (Andre's nearly as wide as that hallway they're standing in).
Click Here LG69 says on 29/Aug/10
The photo of Andre and Bob Backlund still remains one of the best photos to estimate his height. Andre measured just past--not counting his hair-- 10.5 standard 8" mortar blocks. If you subtract 1/2" for his very thin soled wrestling shoes--that are clearly visible--you'd end up with Andre at an even 7'. Was Andre taller than 7'? maybe; was he taller than 6'10"? definately. For now, I will stick with a peak 7' Andre. In the documentary "Larger Than Life", they, too,credit Andre at 7' even. Matt says on 29/Aug/10
I found this site Googling Andre the Giant pictures and I must say you all have some great ones.
Having said that I'm a major Andre fan and loved the mythology surrounding his character- 7'8" grandfather, picking up friends cars and "wheel barrow" them between parking meters. I used to wrestle on the indles in Fl and Al. This was in the 90's-early 2000's and I won't give the name I used because, frankly I'm embarrassed because I wasn't very good. One cool thing that came from this was getting to meet Adrian Street and Miss Linda on several occaisions. They live in Gulf Breeze and made have a company making wrestling gear and well, it wasn't the cheapest you could buy but, if you could get to their house they'd custom fit it to you. I've been to his house or should I say log cabin on the beach- it's really cool, on several occasions and he was always a gracious host and let me pick his brain about everything wrestling.
My first visit was around the same time WCW debuted the Giant as Andre's son, and of course Andre was fresh on my mind and I had many Q's. My first was how tall was he, since he seemed to grow and shrink depending on his opponent. Adrian told me that he had been friends with Andre before either came to North America and that he was only 6'11". Now don't get me wrong that is still a giant but not the 7'4-5" he was billed as. Adrian said the reason he was billed as being so much bigger is because promoters wanted to have the "largest athlete" at their show and at the time the biggest was Kareem Abdul Jabbar, so they billed Andre as 2 inches taller than him. He also said that Andre's feet, head and hands were so abnormally large that no one who met him really disputed his claim.
Look this was a friend of Andre's telling an honest story to a young guy starting out in the buisness, he wasn't selling a book or anything, just being a nice guy. So Let's look at it this way, for most of his career Andre wore cowboy boots that added at least a solid inch to his height. Add the that the 2 inches his hair pre-85 gave him and you've got a 7'2" man. But at the end of the day the boots came off and he was 6'11" again.
Another funny story Adrian told me was how Manute Bol (hope I spelled that right) came to a WWF show and Vince banned Andre from leaving the dressing room.
Sorry to go on so long, just thought you guys would like to know a first-hand account from a friend of Andre's. Mikew says on 29/Aug/10
Chaz says on 29/Aug/10
"Mikew,very few on here give Andre a flat 6'10''most say in the 6'10-11''range . . ."
Chaz: I agree with your summary of the view expressed by the sub 7 foot Andre group; however, this points to the problem with the logic expressed by Big Show (and others) in arguing for the sub 7 foot Andre. Specifically, the argument rests, in large part, on the 6'10" billing of Andre, the argument being that the promoters would clearly err on the side of "overbilling," not "underbilling" a performer they are trying to sell as a giant. Fair enough. However, one would have to concede that, if one is being objective, under that rationale, a 6'10.5" or 6'10.75" Andre (which you all say he was) would have been billed at 6'11," not 6'10." The bottom line, therefore, is that: (a) the billing was not updated; or (b) Andre grew subsequent to the billing. Since we will get nowhere with option "a" (I can't "prove" they got it wrong), let us proceed to option "b." Under this option, the sub 7 foot Andre crowd, whether they want to admit it or not, actually agree with Mamun that Andre grew subsequent to the 6'10" measurement (since you guys believe that Andre was in the 6'10"-6'11" range). The only difference is that you guys believe that Andre only grew to perhaps 6'11," not 7 feet or beyond. Big Show says on 29/Aug/10
Mikew says on 28/Aug/10
Do you believe that a peak Andre was only 6'10"? The reason I ask is because you have, correct me if I'm mistaken, previously stated that you believe a peak Andre to have been somewhere between 6'10" and 6'11." If so, then you yourself are, by definition, endorsing the very theory that you now criticize (i.e., that Andre grew subsequent to the origin of the 6'10" billing). The only difference, then, between your bottom line conclusion (i.e., estimate of somewhere between 6'10" and 6'11") and the 7 foot plus group is that you would be claiming growth of only up to one inch (as opposed to 2 inches and perhaps some change). I think that, if you are to be consistent, you MUST say that Andre was only 6'10" and never grew one centimeter beyond. The problem with that position, while internally consistent, is that you very well KNOW that the overall body of pictorial and video evidence does not support, and indeed makes very unlikely, a peak Andre at only 6'10" flat. I think 6'10"ish is about the lowest one can go, without losing all credibility, but even that would represent some growth from the 6'10" billing (considering that, surely and in line with your solid rationale behind the billing of "giants," if Andre was 6'10.5", they would have billed him at 6'11" and not 6'10").
He was listed in France between 208cm and 210cm most of the time. In the UK the promo poster says 6’10” and most of the articles and magazines referred to him at 6’11. So his listings in the UK match the ones in France. That is why I think he’s between those two heights. And to me most of the pictorial evidence show a man who’s around that height.
I don’t regard it as impossible if a man who’s between 6’10” and 6’11” to be billed at 6’10”. I do think it’s extremely unlikely that a man who’s between 6’11” and 7’ to still be billed at 6’10”. Capt. Nobody says on 29/Aug/10
Red with some great pic comparisons yet again! Chaz says on 29/Aug/10
Mikew,very few on here give Andre a flat 6'10''most say in the 6'10-11''range and a very few that he was only 6'9.75'' I myself think he was 210cm peak thats 6'10.75''. Mamun says on 29/Aug/10
Anonymous , you should have never posted that picture ! I will now tell you why! If there was a Noble Prize for reaching for the stars posture , then I
think Shaq will be the best person to get it ! In that picture Walton has
his knees bent and is leaning towards Shaq just like Kane it ! And Shaq ?
I don't know man something just isn't right in that picture ! I think Shaq
almost looks like his on his tip toes !
Regards
Supermun Big Show says on 28/Aug/10
Mamun, you never really read any bio's or anything about Andre have you? You sure as hell no very little if nothing about the man's career.
First off, it were the Canadians that started billing Andre as 7'4" and as "The Eight Wonder of the World", not Vince. Vince McMahon Sr. changed Andre’s wrestling name from Jean Ferre to Andre the Giant and made him more of an attraction and kept his appearances in the same territory to a minimum, to keep Andre's gimmick fresh.
Andre was a heavyweight champion in his own country at the age of 22, not many wrestlers can probably say that, so the French certainly saw a lot of potential in Andre. The promoters in the UK followed Andre for quite some time, before he came to the UK in 1969 and his wrestling tour was carefully planned. He debuted there on May 22 and a day later he was already a part of Dale Martins showcase bill of the year, which was broadcasted on national tv. Compare this to a newcomer and total stranger to the audience to make his debut in WWE and the day after already having a singles match at Wrestlemania. No promoter would do this unless they of course saw a lot of potential in the wrestler. His tv-appearance was planned to amplify his height, as they pitted him against the much shorter Jim Hussey. This was to show-off Andre’s huge height and having people wanting to see more of him, but against bigger wrestlers (like Bruno Elrington, Pat Roach, Jim Moran, etc.). If they were that careful into planning his UK debut, I’m sure they did the same with his stats and everything.
Btw, do you have amnesia or something? Never use or refer to pics where he wears cowboy-boots? Well perhaps you will do us the honour and never refer to the Wilt pics ever again or to the pic with Buddy Baker as in both those pics he’s wearing cowboy boots. And both JT and I mention it when Big Show wears
Kareem was measured at 7’1 5/8” at age 22 and was listed 7’2”, so he wasn’t listed below his actual height. Wilt was measured 7’1 1/16” and was listed 7’1”, which I can’t say is being listed below your actual height. I don’t know enough about Bill Walton to be sure if he was listed below his actual height. Anonymous says on 28/Aug/10
kareem or wilt were not underlisted, we have photographic proof that both men were measured barefoot (at 7'1.65 and 7'0.5 respectively)
as for walton he was clearly shorter than shaq so he was never over his listed height either, thats over 12 years ago Click Here Mikew says on 28/Aug/10
Big Show:
Do you believe that a peak Andre was only 6'10"? The reason I ask is because you have, correct me if I'm mistaken, previously stated that you believe a peak Andre to have been somewhere between 6'10" and 6'11." If so, then you yourself are, by definition, endorsing the very theory that you now criticize (i.e., that Andre grew subsequent to the origin of the 6'10" billing). The only difference, then, between your bottom line conclusion (i.e., estimate of somewhere between 6'10" and 6'11") and the 7 foot plus group is that you would be claiming growth of only up to one inch (as opposed to 2 inches and perhaps some change). I think that, if you are to be consistent, you MUST say that Andre was only 6'10" and never grew one centimeter beyond. The problem with that position, while internally consistent, is that you very well KNOW that the overall body of pictorial and video evidence does not support, and indeed makes very unlikely, a peak Andre at only 6'10" flat. I think 6'10"ish is about the lowest one can go, without losing all credibility, but even that would represent some growth from the 6'10" billing (considering that, surely and in line with your solid rationale behind the billing of "giants," if Andre was 6'10.5", they would have billed him at 6'11" and not 6'10"). Red says on 28/Aug/10
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Using 6´2" HHH and 6´2" Duggan as reference
Andre from 1988 looks strong 6´11" next to Khali Mamun says on 28/Aug/10
OK Big show back to the facts !
1) It was Vince Snr who saw the potential of Andre and not the French Canadian
promoters who merely saw Andre as just a tall and Skiny wrestlers ! They
had no idea who they had in their cards so they never bothered to promot
Andre more than his 6' 10" lisiting or remeasure him !
2) I will never talk about Andre's cowboy boots ! Here are the reasons why !
99.9999 percent of all of Andre's pictures that we over 7 foot Andre fans
use as reference are the ones when he is in his ultra thin zero heeled
wrestling boots which is like saying his barefoot height . For example ,
when we used the Cinder blocks to calculate his height , he was in his
wrestling boots and he came out to be 7' 1" . Then justed about all the
pictures that we use of him with other wrestlers , Andre is always in his
wrestling boots and with the worst possible posture . Where as when you
and JT use the very same wrestlers to compare with Paul Wight , you never
take into account the monsters Paul always wears into the ring ! Then lets
not forget that barefoot Andre picture with his knees bend with Bret Hart
who had thick sneakers on ! Andre had the same height on Bret that Shaq
had on Stone Cold ! Yes he does wear cowboy boots but show me once that
we used his picture with cowboy boots as reference or proof of his height !
3) Basket Ball players are sometimes under billed . Case in point , Kareem,
Wilt and Bill Walton ! I have a nice picture with Bill Walton who is
now 57 years old . He looks 6' 11' today . So it would be imossible for
him to have measured only 6' 11" during his younger years !
4) Big Show I have posted my proof that Shaq is not as tall as Wilt ! Now
it's your turn to show some proof to your theory .
Regards
Supermun Mikew says on 27/Aug/10
Big Show
As I've previously stated, your explanation regarding Andre and his old billing is certainly rational, though I think even you would admit far from dispositive. We've already gone round and round on that point, so there is no point in repeating ourselves (i.e.,the billing was an old billing and that Andre subequently grew a bit, hardly a stretch in light of his medical condition and what I would label extensive visual "proof" that we subsequently saw). Suffice to say, your point is a solid argument for the sub 7'0" Andre, though still, I don't give it too much weight since the overall body of evidence makes a 6'10" Andre seem almost impossible to me (under 7'0" possible for sure, 6'10" seems very unlikely). That you make solid, rational arguments is one of the reasons that, even though I ultimately disagree with you on this issue, I respect you and your opinions. This is why I'm puzzled at your claim that Shaq was as tall as Wilt. No way. Indeed, even you (rightly) acknowledge that an alleged 7'0.5" measurement in the 1980s does was not inconsistent with the famous 7'1 and 1/16th measurement of a young Wilt. It makes absolute sense that Wilt could have lost a 1/2 an inch or so over the years. No way (as in ZERO percent chance) Shaq was ever taller than 7'1 and 1/6th and, moreover, Shaq was not taller than Wilt even in Wilt's later days (though that is not to a 100% certainty). The Shaq pictures with Wilt (putting to the side the most recent one submitted by Mamun) point to a guy around 7'0," not 7'1." Small difference to be sure, but significant nonethelss.
Finally, your previous post about what a 6'11" Shaq would allegedly mean was entirely circular and not convincing at all. You merely dropped everybody else's height by precisely two inches, ignoring the ratioanl behind the underlying downgrade of Shaq. We acknowledge that Shaq "looks" 7'1" so no, there would not be any need to drop everyone else by two inches. The theory that Shaq is only 6'11" (I myself believe he's right around 7'0") implies that he has about two inches of extra help with his shoes (beyond the norm), which projects the appearance of a man two inches taller than he is. So no, there would be no need to downgrade everybody else's height. JT says on 27/Aug/10
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Big Show says on 26/Aug/10
….There’s no medical back-up to your claim that acromegalic giants grow till their late twenties. Most of them stop growing at a normal age….
That’s correct. For a tiny percentage of the population (pituitary tumor or not), the growth plates don’t fuse until after the person (a male) is past their late teens. It has nothing to do with whether the person has a pituitary tumor.
If the pituitary tumor is present at a young age, the person just has more time to grow (abnormally) before the growth plates fuse. Robert Wadlow’s tumor obviously developed at a very young age (it was probably present around birth).
If you watch that Biography show on Andre, his brother said they noticed Andre really starting to get tall at around age 16, which would suggest a late development of the tumor and thus less time to grow before his growth plates fused. This would also negate the oft-repeated claim that he was 6’2” or 6’3” at age 12 (which would have been unusually tall for that age and noticeable by his family). I’ve also seen reference to him being 6’7” at age 17 (Rob even notes it), which would likewise call into question the claimed height at age 12.
Alfred Hayes claimed Andre was 6’10” when he first met him (probably in 1964 when Andre was 18) but then absurdly claimed that Andre kept growing almost another foot over the years.
Wrestler Big Show claimed he stopped growing at age 18, and his pituitary tumor was every bit as active as Andre’s. He also claimed he was 7’1” at that point, though I think that is about an inch too tall (maybe a round up). tyson86 says on 27/Aug/10
Mamun i wouldnt waste my time anyone who thinks andre was 6'10 peak and still the same height lying down in 1993 is in fantasy land he was 7'0.5" with wilt in 1984 it says his body turned on him by 1980 in larger than life documentary when he's in a wedding photo so in the early 70s he could have been as tall as 7'2". Chaz says on 27/Aug/10
Drugs only play only a small part in joint bone deterioration,and most like testosterone help to keep them in good shape,Stanozolol on the other is known has a joint and tendon killer,so to are Most DHT roids,age weight and bad posture are the biggest cause of height loss,or in the case of Hogan exaggeration,like most things that come out of he's mouth,Wilt was measured at 7'.05''at that time and he was measured laying down that allways makes you taller than standing up more so if you have bad posture,like Carabib who was nerly 7'10''laying down.but has he was measured later in the day that was prob he's real height.the truth is Andre was never over 210cm in the evening,and even if he was 213cm out of bed he would not have been a real avarage 7 feet and 7'1.5''is just fantasy land,if he was that height in he's cowboy boots and big hair he would look 7'6''lol.not bearly 7 feet. KELSO says on 26/Aug/10
I see Mamum is still in his fanasy world. Big Show says on 26/Aug/10
Mamun says on 25/Aug/10
Here is your explanation Big Show ! If you want to go by promoters estimate
of Andre , then do be kind and explain to me why you won't accept the 7' 4"
lisiting of Andre but you just love the 6' 10" litings by earlier promoters ?
This double standards never made any sense to me !
It’s a simple theory Mamun. When a wrestler is labeled a giant he won’t get listed below his actual height. If a promoter thinks it’s important to prominently list Andre’s height on a wrestling handbill, it means his size was obviously of some significance and the promoter obviously feels it would attract people to come and see his wrestling shows if he had a giant on his card. Why therefore would a promoter list him below his actual height or go through all the trouble of putting Andre’s height on the wrestling bill, yet apparently doesn’t feel the need to check if Andre might’ve been taller. As an outsider’s view that doesn’t sound very smart and even hurts Andre’s gimmick as a giant. That’s why I can’t think of a single giant in professional wrestling that ever got listed below his actual height.
There’s no medical back-up to your claim that acromegalic giants grow till their late twenties. Most of them stop growing at a normal age. Please back up your claim with medical facts and not your own self-made theories!
Giant Haystacks wrestled for a different promotion than Andre. Just because Haystacks was billed taller, does not mean he is taller.
As for Shaq, in the examples I’ve mentioned Shaq did not wear his big sneakers, but common dressing shoes. But talking about giant footwear, may I ask why you are always blabbing about Shaq’s giant monster sneakers or Big Show’s gigantic moonboots, but never once say a word, when Andre is wearing his big cowboyboots?
And yes I’m still going to argue that Shaq is as tall as Wilt. You only provided one pic with crappy angles, as no one in that pic seems to look his listed height. Walton looks taller than Wilt, Wilt looks taller than Kareem. He also measures up taller next to Bill Russell than what he did in the early 60’s.
Wilt was measured at 7’0.5” back in 1980 (while laying down). His measurement of 7’1 1/16” dated back from the 50’s (and I’m sure he wasn’t measured at that specific height every time he measured himself afterwards). So if you can believe in inches of height loss for multiple wrestlers, why can’t you believe a 0.5” height loss for a 44 year old giant of man, who had an active basketball career of over 16 years and gained a 100 lbs through the years? AndreFan says on 26/Aug/10
Danimal, Arnold and Hogan more than dabbled with illicit muscle enhancement substances, so did Superstar Billy Graham and an incountable legion of athletes, I wonder if significant shrinkage due to deterioration of joints and possible pulverization of bone is a side effect of steroid and HGH abuse? Guys like Superstar Billy Graham swears he lost 4 inches. Arnold and Hogan are mere shadows of their former selves Click Here and Click Here Click Here and Click Here Me says on 26/Aug/10
It seems to me that dicksock is the only logical person on this site. I believe Andre peaked out at just over 7'. Even though that may be slightly taller than dicksock's estimation it is close enough that I can respect and see his points. How anyone can believe he was under 6'11", which I do not believe, is absolutely ridiculous. Danimal says on 26/Aug/10
AndreFan says on 25/Aug/10
A pre - Conan Arnold and barefoot Wilt Click Here and an older Arnold and Shaq Click Here
You can physically see that Arnold was a much taller man then than he is today. His body was much longer. Today it has that shrunken and compressed look (the same as Hulk Hogan)... Mamun says on 25/Aug/10
Here is your explanation Big Show ! If you want to go by promoters estimate
of Andre , then do be kind and explain to me why you won't accept the 7' 4"
lisiting of Andre but you just love the 6' 10" litings by earlier promoters ?
This double standards never made any sense to me ! Ok I will give you the
most logical explanation with science as proof !
1) Andre was an Accormegalic Giant who had a growth disorder ! They don't
stop growing by age twenty like us normal people . They continue to grow
in till the late twenties ! These are scientific facts so nothing to argue
there ! Even if Andre was measured as 6' 10" age 17 , the promoters most
likely stuck with that measurment for a while untill Vince Snr took over!
2) How can he be only 6' 10" when the gentleman by the name of Giant Haystacks
was billed as 6' 11" ??????????? Was he teller than Andre ??????????
3) Big Show why are you denying the fact that Shaq wears some giant monster
sneakers ? Are you sure they don't give him any height advantage !
4) Are you still going to argue that Shaq is as tall as Wilt or even taller
despite of all of these evidance posted stating otherwise ????????
Richard , don't drink and drive brother ! I don't want you to die over this !
Regards
Supermun Anon says on 25/Aug/10
Nothing but lame unfunny remarks and excuses instead of arguements from the andre was 6'10 camp . dicksock says on 25/Aug/10
Richard says: I can't believe I'm even answering this... he is NOT measuring up better to Wilt than Shaq. And Shaq's wig doesn't give him 2 inches... although Andre's cowboy boots might give him that kind of boost. Then there's Andre's afro... and the fact that he's closer to the camera and he still comes out shorter than Wilt by approximately 2 inches.
Andre does NOT have an afro in those photos. Wilt's wig DOES give him 2" as do Andre's boots. Wilt does NOT have 2" on Andre in the latest photo. Andre is taller than him in that one, but he is slightly below the top of the wig. I will admit he was only taller because of his boots though. He wasn't significantly closer to the camera either.
Seriously, I see so many stupid comments on this site that it's ridiculous. It's not that hard to figure out: Andre was 6'11"-7'0", Wilt was 7'1 1/16" and Shaq is 7'1". kinggollum says on 25/Aug/10
Chaz says on 25/Aug/10
I think it must be the silly season, Silo Sam 7'5''lol Andre 7'1.5''lol Rob you better upgrade Richard Kiel to 7'4.5''lol and start listing John Tenta at 6'6.75''lol. And why you are at it list the only real Wrestling giant Gonzalez at 8 feet lol.
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I think it must be the silly season, Silo Sam 7'5''lol Andre 7'1.5''lol Rob you better upgrade Richard Kiel to 7'4.5''lol and start listing John Tenta at 6'6.75''lol. And why you are at it list the only real Wrestling giant Gonzalez at 8 feet lol. Richard says on 25/Aug/10
Mamun says:
"So my dear friend Richard , if Andre is only 6' 10" prime , do give us all
an explanation as to how Andre measures better against a Wilt with a two inchs
thick wigg than a 7' 1" barefoot Shaq ?????????????? Please teach me the truth
here for I am a bit lost !
Regards
Supermun"
I can't believe I'm even answering this... he is NOT measuring up better to Wilt than Shaq. And Shaq's wig doesn't give him 2 inches... although Andre's cowboy boots might give him that kind of boost. Then there's Andre's afro... and the fact that he's closer to the camera and he still comes out shorter than Wilt by approximately 2 inches.
Now where's my Vodka... maybe a whole bottle might make me see eye to eye with you on this one (screech, laugh) AndreFan says on 25/Aug/10
A pre - Conan Arnold and barefoot Wilt Click Here and an older Arnold and Shaq Click Here Big Show says on 25/Aug/10
It’s funny how people here downgrade Shaq, but then have no desire to change any of their other estimates aswell. Apparently some only downgrade the people they don’t like.
A 6’11” Shaq would mean:
Big Show is struggling with 6’10” these days
Kane is 6’6” tops
Undertaker is 6’5.5” tops
Donald Trump is 6’ tops (which means Vince is below 6’)
Hulk Hogan was 6’3 tops back in 1994 (which means he wasn’t 6’6” in the 80’s)
The Rock is struggling with 6’1”
Arnold Schwarzenegger is around 5’11”
Randy Orton is 6’2”
The Great Khali is 6’11” tops
And Ben Roethlisberger must’ve been measured at 6’4.75” in cowboyboots.
And Shaq wasn’t wearing his monstrous basketball shoes next to any of them. He’s one of the few basketball players today that actually looks his height. He’s taller than most of the other 7’1” listed basketball players. One picture with crappy angles of Shaq and various other b-ball players doesn’t change that (btw that pic has been posted before on the Wilt page and I believe on the Shaq page aswell).
Mamun please explain to me why various wrestling promoters would bill Andre at 6’10” in his early 20’s, if he was really 7’1” and basketball organization would list Shaq at 7’1” when he’s really 6’10”. You must be from a different planet if that sounds logical to you, as it sure doesn’t to me. Anon says on 24/Aug/10
Because richard we do not think andre was 6'10 no matter how many times you try to pass it off as a fact :/ kinggollum says on 24/Aug/10
funny how I used to believe a peak big show and a peak andre was around the same height. Now I believe andre khali and silva are around the same peak height edging Big Show by over an inch. After seeing shaq was more than an inch on show and the same height as khali and wilt having both shaq and andre by about an inch and I would even see a peak andre slightly taller than shaq!
Gonzales 7'6.5
silo sam 7'5
Silva 7'2
Andre 7'1-1.5
Khali 7'1
Yeti 7'1-1.5
Show 7'0-.5
kurrgan 6'11 Mamun says on 24/Aug/10
Bottom line my friends , there is no way in GOD'S name Shaq is as tall or taller than Wilt or Kareem ! I have posted the proof right there and there
is really nothing to argue ! In the latest picture ( Which I have painstakingly
discovered ) even a guy on drugs can see Wilt is clearly taller ! In the other
one ( Also discovered by me ) Shaq has both the footwear and closer to the
camera advantage and is still not taller than Wilt !
So my dear friend Richard , if Andre is only 6' 10" prime , do give us all
an explanation as to how Andre measures better against a Wilt with a two inchs
thick wigg than a 7' 1" barefoot Shaq ?????????????? Please teach me the truth
here for I am a bit lost !
Regards
Supermun JT says on 24/Aug/10
Mamun, Shaq looks 6’10” there next to Wilt. Either he’s not standing straight or he grew 3 inches since then. If not, Pat Ewing is 6’8” tops, Tim Duncan and Hakeem Olajuwon 6’7”, Amare Stoudemire 6’6”, Karl Malone 6’5” (and he had DDP by at least 4 inches), Charles Barkley 6’3” Click Here .... but wait, since Barkley (who you thought was 6'8"!!) towered over Gene Okerlund more than a peak Hulk Hogan ever did, wouldn’t that make Hogan no more than 6’2”? Since Andre never had Hogan by more than 5 inches, I guess Andre’s 6’7” tops then, right?? AndreFan says on 24/Aug/10
This does not prove anything about Andre's height although the giant dwarfs 6'3" Greg Evigan but look at the monstrous hands and feet on this guy. Andre's feet must have been 15 inches Click Here dicksock says on 24/Aug/10
miko says on 23/Aug/10
Maybe we need one with a fully grown Shaq?
Obviously though in the time between photo's Wilt will have lost 5 inches in height, and Shaq will obviously be REACHING FOR THE STARS in 5 inch SUPER sneakers zzzz....
Both men have 1 foot off the ground, before that excuse is used.
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What are you talking about. You're being sarcastic but you KNOW Shaq's giant sneakers are giving him an advantage. Shaq is closer to the camera by far and does have better posture. It's clear based on these two photos that Wilt was not shorter than 7'1" shaq. Wilt is barely closer to the camera in mamun's picture and he has shaq by almost 2". And that is an old Wilt. If they were perfectly lined up, they'd be the same height with the slight advantage going to Wilt. Danimal says on 24/Aug/10
Frank says on 23/Aug/10
Good Find Mamum Shaq looks about 6ft 11 like he said on Howard Stern a couple of years ago.Mamum i did see a a different picture of Andre & Wilt and Wilt had Andre by 2 inches so Andre was atleast as tall as Shaq and Taller than BIG SHOW
I believe Shaq claimed he was 6'11.5" on Howard Stern. Could be his 7'1" is in his boots. Which then shows just how much Big Show has lost height since the 1990's, seeing he had 3" clear on a younger Kevin Nash.. I would give Show 6'10" today based on this and over 7'0" in the 1990's... Andre was 6'11.5"-7'0". Richard says on 24/Aug/10
@ mamun
stop calling people who want the truth "haters" the only haters around here are those that aren't content with Andre's real height (6'10). You want him to be something he wasn't (7'+)why can't you just accept the real Andre! Mikew says on 23/Aug/10
Shaq must have forgotten to wear his giant basketball shoes. Clay says on 23/Aug/10
Wilt is closer to the camera in that pic Mamun, lol. miko says on 23/Aug/10
Maybe we need one with a fully grown Shaq?
Obviously though in the time between photo's Wilt will have lost 5 inches in height, and Shaq will obviously be REACHING FOR THE STARS in 5 inch SUPER sneakers zzzz....
Both men have 1 foot off the ground, before that excuse is used.
Click Here Chaz says on 23/Aug/10
Mamun,if that's the best you can come up with,then I'm going for Andre to be down graded to 6'9.75'',Iver that or Bill Walton was 7'3'',they are in a semi circle,thats why Shaq looks shortist,and Walton looks 3.5'' taller than he was lol. dicksock says on 23/Aug/10
Nice photo mamun. Obviously Shaq looks unusually short in that picture. Based on that picture, I can't see how we can have a 7'0.5" Wilt and a 7'1" Shaq. Quite frankly, I'm still a bit skeptical about that 7'0.5" measurment for Wilt when he was lying down. If you're lying down and not stretching out all the way, you won't get a good measurment. That being said, I'm sure he was legit measured at 7'0.5", but he probably wasn't stretching out all the way. He was also probably a legit 7'1" 1/16 when he was measured in the morning with a "reaching for the stars" posture. I would not upgrade Andre to 7'1" though. I think he's fine right where he is. Maybe something like 7'0" in prime, and 6'10" at death would be better. But, the way I see it 6'11.5" and 7' are basically the same height. Anonymous says on 23/Aug/10
a rare barefoot shot of a young andre Click Here Frank says on 23/Aug/10
Good Find Mamum Shaq looks about 6ft 11 like he said on Howard Stern a couple of years ago.Mamum i did see a a different picture of Andre & Wilt and Wilt had Andre by 2 inches so Andre was atleast as tall as Shaq and Taller than BIG SHOW Anonymous says on 23/Aug/10
great find mamun. please upgrade andre at 7 minimun. Mamun says on 23/Aug/10
I now have the " KRYPTONITE " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROB it's time to upgrade
Andre to the 7' 1" that he deserves ! After a lot of painstaking digging
the internet , I have found the so called " ROCK SOLID EVIDENCE " That Andre
was indeed always taller than Shaq ! Here in this 1992 photo we can see Wilt
even without his massive wigg still taller than a 20 year old shaq ! Kareem
still looks taller too ! Now I would love to see the Andre haters faces now !
Can't wait for your responses !
Regrads
Supermun
Click Here Smarty says on 20/Aug/10
Danimal Andre was only 6' taller then a peak Hogan in the late 70's because he was wearing his cowboy boots while Hogan was only wearing sandals. anonymous says on 20/Aug/10
mr. X you need to downgrade all those guys an inch. NCL says on 20/Aug/10
There's a lot of tension here - you guys better be careful or you'll end up like these two:
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Or worse, these two!
Click Here Mr. X says on 19/Aug/10
Chuck Norris 5'8.5" (5'9" peak)
Sylvester Stallone 5'8.5" (5'9.25" peak)
Arnold Schwarzenegger 6'0.5" (6'2" peak)
Hulk Hogan 6'3.75" (6'6" peak)
Lou Ferigno 6'3.5" (6'5" peak) AndreFan says on 19/Aug/10
I see there is alot of posturing and postulation in ascertaining Andre's real height, I can tell you that trying to discern true height from video and photographs is incredibly difficult due to angles and perspective. Andre, stricken with the infirmities associated with acromegalic giantism, obesity and a plethora of other maladies resulting from over indulgences, was hunched most of the times even in his youth. I believe the giant was over seven feet barefoot perhaps 7'1" by the late 70's but due to the aforementioned gave up much. Danimal says on 19/Aug/10
Erin S. says on 10/Aug/10
Andre was 6 inches taller than Hogan. Andre 6'11 1/2-7'0" and Hogan 6'5 1/2-6'6". As my boyfriend would say, case closed.
You know what? this "case closed" business is getting old. Tell your boyfriend I said it. tyson86 says on 18/Aug/10
if shaq and wilt are roughly the same height then peak andre was taller than present big show andre would have looked shorter due to increase in weight by 1984 his peak was in 1972. drummer107 says on 18/Aug/10
My friends Dad said he was 6'2 had back surgery and now he is 6'0, I understand Andre had a back surgery from one of his interviews maybe that took some height off of him? dicksock says on 18/Aug/10
miko says on 17/Aug/10
If Rob upgrades Andre to 7"0 then I'm pushing for a 6"7+ Hogan and a 7"1+ Big Show.
You do realize he's already listed at 6'11.5? That is basically the same as 7'0". I don't think it is unreasonable to believe that a peak Andre could have had 6" on Hogan. I will grant you that it looked like 5" most of the time, but that doesn't mean it was. Andre never tried to look tall like other giants do. I think Hogan at 6'5.5", Studd at 6'6.5", and Andre at 6'11.5" is just fine; give or take .5"... miko says on 17/Aug/10
If Rob upgrades Andre to 7"0 then I'm pushing for a 6"7+ Hogan and a 7"1+ Big Show. Danimal says on 17/Aug/10
Bare minimum 6'11.5" at his peak. Most likely an inch taller than that, but I can live with 6'11.5" for his peak height. This 6'10" talk is of a broken down, sick and early aged man who couldn't stand straight and was close to death because of his condition (still had 2" on Tyler Mane in 1990)... A PEAK Andre would have had some REAL height on Tyler Mane. AndreFan says on 17/Aug/10
Andre aroun 1981 - 85 was at his biggest, he always reminded me of an African Bull Elephant with his huge fro, look at this Click Here Andre seemed larger and more distended than ever. The Puerto Rican people can only gawk in anstonishment. GST says on 17/Aug/10
One thing to remember is that these pro wrestlers usually have a nonstop career for the most part. Wrestling is out of season. Due to the wear and tear and injuries which cause surgeries on the back, neck, legs, etc, pro wrestlers probably lose more height than most normal professional athletes. With that said, Andre was probably 6'10.5 in the late 80's and 7'0 in the early 70's. In between those years there is probably alot of conflicting pictures due to height loss. I think the pics of Wilt and Andre show both guys at least a foot taller than Arnold. Regardless of boots or wigs, both guys look at least a solid 7 foot to me. I think Andre may be a good 15 inches taller than Arnold in that pic. Arnold's head is an inch below Andre's chin when I aligned it. I think it is time to give Andre 7'0. It seems to me more people think he was that height than not. Chaz says on 17/Aug/10
NCL you dont need pics,Look up SummerSlam 90 Hogan v Earthquake,anyone can pic out a freez frame pic and say Hogan was the same hight or taller when there is only 2cm in it any way,but look at the fight and it is 100% clear Tenta was a bit taller,Hogan was 195cm and Tenta was 197cm,so please stop the 6'6''Hogan rubish,your be saying he realy had 24''arms next LOL,Big Show I am looking for that Gonzalez listing it was something to do with the billed up to the 1988 Olympics from 1987. Viper says on 17/Aug/10
I could easily buy Andre at 7'0. I saw a picture back in April of Andre in this very same restaraunt I was eating at back in the 70s. He was standing with 2 average height looking people to me and he looked like a 7'0 guy easily physically. Boss says on 16/Aug/10
Time for Rob to up Andre to 7' prime for Andre.
Click Here Boss says on 16/Aug/10
Andre looks as tall as Wilt in 1984. Andre's wearing boots and Wilt is wearing boots with a massive wig on his head.
Click Here dicksock says on 16/Aug/10
AndreFan says on 16/Aug/10
Did anyone else see the Rent - A - Center commercial where a wizened and depleted Hulkster looked rather short compared to 6'4" Troy Aikman Click Here wow the Incredible Shrinking Hulk has to be 6'2" at best.
People always use this to say Hogan is so short now. But the truth is if you actually look at the difference between them, there is only like 1", and that is because Hogan isn't standing up straight. Hogan is still a strong 6'3". He still looked almost the same height as Abyss and Abyss is a minimum of 6'5". Hogan peaked at 6'5.5" and he has lost 2" from that. NCL says on 16/Aug/10
Chaz says on 16/Aug/10
Can we stop all this 6'6''Hogan rubish the man was shoter than 6'5.75''Tenta,the Man was never over 195cm the man is full of crap.
Well the full of crap thing may be right, but any pics u can refer too? miko says on 16/Aug/10
Hulk was 6"5 or a hair over at his peak, and is still over 6"3 today. Frank says on 16/Aug/10
Big Show i believe i read Gonzalez was 7ft 6 but he grew to about 7ft 7 in change.. I emailed his website how tall he grew to and they replied 2.32 AndreFan says on 16/Aug/10
Did anyone else see the Rent - A - Center commercial where a wizened and depleted Hulkster looked rather short compared to 6'4" Troy Aikman Click Here wow the Incredible Shrinking Hulk has to be 6'2" at best. Big Show says on 16/Aug/10
Chaz says on 15/Aug/10
The Argentina listing for Gonzales befor he whent to the USA was 230cm
Can you provide proof of that. I've been looking for a listing of Gonzalez in Argentine for ages, but have never seen one. Chaz says on 16/Aug/10
Can we stop all this 6'6''Hogan rubish the man was shoter than 6'5.75''Tenta,the Man was never over 195cm the man is full of crap. Truthman says on 16/Aug/10
Crap! That's real height:
Gonzales 7'4
Hogan 6'4
Shaq 7'1
Undertaket 6'7 MAX!
BigShow 7
Freakish tall. And they are unlikely to live a normal life with such height! capt. nobody says on 16/Aug/10
One thing you have to realize is that most basketball measurements are in shoes. When somebody is "6'10"" they are more often than not closer to in between 6'8" and 6'9". "7 footers" are usually 6'10" to 6'10.5" without shoes.
Now if El Gigante's pre-draft measurement was 7'7" it depends on whether or not that was out of shoes or in shoes. Some players shoes literally give them 2+ inches of boost. Go to draftexpress.com, they have a historical database of predraft measurements. I'm a Sacramento Kings fan and a few years ago they drafted Spencer Hawes who is really about 6'10.5" but he's listed at 7'1". Oh, the NBA typically rounds up the nearest half inch as well. dicksock says on 15/Aug/10
Sal, give it up already. Did it ever occur to you that 7'7" is a round up from his guiness listed height of around 7'6.5"? Why are you pushing the 7'7" listing so hard anyway? NOBODY here disputes him being in the 7'6" range. Allison says on 15/Aug/10
here are the peak height of the WWE superstars
Andre 6'11.5"
Hogan 6'6"
Undertaker 6'8"
Kane 6'8.5"
Steve Austin 6'1.5"
Big Show 7'0"
Kevin Nash 6'9.5"
Shawn Michaels 6'0"
Bret Hart 6'0"
The Rock 6'3.5"
John Cena 6'1"
Jake Roberts 6'5.25"
Vader 6'3"
Gorilla Monsoon 6'5" Chaz says on 15/Aug/10
The Argentina listing for Gonzales befor he whent to the USA was 230cm 7'6.5'' the 7'6'' was prob a rownd down from the metric,from the start in the WCW he was listed at 7'7''that was brob a rownd up from 230cm ,but to be fair to Sal he's old web sight did say he was 7'7,25'',and that he had started growing again,the prob with the 2000 GBRs is that it is just a side note about Gonzales not being 8foot and only being 7'6''also he was soposed to have been measured in June 2000,but the 2000 GBRs covers from Aug 1998-Aug - Aug 1999 like this years 2011 will cover aug 2009- aug 2010,one thing is for sure if Gonzales was less that 7'6''then the Undertaker was not much over 6'6''becuse he dose not even come up to Gonzalez.s mouth,from my mouth to the top of my head is 8.5'' at 180cm tall Gonzalez looks to be at least 10.5''-11''taller than Undertaker.I Think 230cm was he's real height at the time. Sal says on 15/Aug/10
Here's even more proof that many of the guys on here are liars and underexaggerate wrestler's heights.
Gonzalez was measured @ 7'7" 380lbs at an NBA PRE-DRAFT measurement.
Click Here dicksock says on 15/Aug/10
Hey sal the liar; we know Gonzalez was in the 7'6" range in guiness. I used to have the book!
Gonzalez: 7'6" minimum
Andre: 6'11" minimum
Show: 7'
Shaq: 7'1"
Hogan: 6'5" minimum
Monsoon: 6'4" minimum
Khali: 7'1"
Nash: 6'9" minimum
Undertaker: 6'7.5"
These are the REAL legit heights. anonymous says on 14/Aug/10
those height guestimations are ridiculous, sal. lol @ a 6 foot 9 undertaker Rick says on 14/Aug/10
Sal says on 13/Aug/10
Here are the REAL prime peak after good night sleep heights.
Actually, you need to stop dreaming and wake up. Some of those figures are waaaaaaay off. Vegas says on 14/Aug/10
yeah thats solid proof alrite Sal, looks like a site created by some kid in their mothers basement, even uses photos from members of this site, no link to said measurement, no link to even guinness themselves, no references expect oww Viper says on 14/Aug/10
LOL at Kevin Nash being taller than Olajuwon. You are a troll. Hogan 6'7? LMAO Sal says on 13/Aug/10
I'm still shocked how much many people are downgraded on this site.
Jorge Gonzalez was measured @ 7'7 1/4" by the Guiness Book of World records and yet people on here claim that he's only 7'6". I think the Undertaker was AT LEAST 6'9" since Gonzalez would have been about 7'8 3/4" or 7'9" in his boots.
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EVERYONE who was ever compared to the Giant Gonzalez for height now has to be upgrade 1 1/4".
PROOF HERE
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Here are the REAL prime peak after good night sleep heights.
Giant Gonzalez 7'7 1/4+"
Giant Silva 7'3"
Dalip Singh 7'2"
Paul Wight 7'1 1/4"
Shaq 7'1"
David Robinson 7'0 3/4"
Andre the Giant 7'0"
Kevin Nash 6'11"
Hakeem Olajuwon 6'10"
Undertaker 6'9"
Hulk Hogan 6'7" Anonymous says on 13/Aug/10
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Nothing to do with Andre, but at about 1:35 the 6'7-8 Manny Yarbrough is weighed at 745 pounds. Haystacks could have probably been close to 600 lbs at his heaviest, he was around Yarbrough's height in his prime. Me says on 11/Aug/10
I know Miko someone was there with a tape and measured them. miko says on 11/Aug/10
Andre was about 5 inches taller than Hulk when he arm wrestled him, BUT Andre was in cowboys, so is quite clearly gaining some amount of height on Hogan. If Hulk was a flat 6"5 then Andre was struggling with 6"10 in the late 70's, if Hulk was really 6"6 which I doubt, then Andre was around 6"10.5/6"11. Steve says on 11/Aug/10
I agree with you Sweden on your estimates, although I'm saying
Peak Hogan: 197cm = 6'5.5
Peak Andre: 211cm = 6'11.25 sweden says on 11/Aug/10
i would say andre could look as 5.5 icnhes taller than hogan and sometimes 6. sometimes he looked only 4 inches taller..i know JT is gonna say that hogan looked 5 inches shorter than andre in their arm wrestling match! maybe, but with bad camera angles and posture nothing is impossible..
peak Hogan 196 cm = 6'5.25
Andre 5.5 taller makes him 6'10.75 which is 210 cm
sounds pretty correct.. Erin S. says on 10/Aug/10
Andre was 6 inches taller than Hogan. Andre 6'11 1/2-7'0" and Hogan 6'5 1/2-6'6". As my boyfriend would say, case closed. Me says on 10/Aug/10
When did Andre become only 4" taller than Hogan?? Me says on 10/Aug/10
When did Andre become only 4" taller than Hogan?? Chaz says on 10/Aug/10
dicksock,that just go's to show just how tall 6'10''realy is,and how you could get away with saying you are 7'4''+ Like Andre did, miko says on 10/Aug/10
If Andre was a legit 7"0 guy in the 1980's then Hulk Hogan was close to 6"8. JT says on 10/Aug/10
Haystacks and John Quinn: Click Here Richard says on 9/Aug/10
"aarod says on 7/Aug/10
JT, you rotated the andre and wilt picture incorrectly. you have wilt's heel AN INCH HIGHER than andre's,"
Of course he does... because Wilt was standing further back, jees man. Richard says on 9/Aug/10
Just for comparison, a 6'11 guy next to a 7'8
Click Here dicksock says on 9/Aug/10
aarod says on 7/Aug/10
haystacks was 6'7" ish. he was slightly shorter than giant baba in one of their matches, and baba is known to be 6'8".
Where is there footage of them in the ring together? And Baba was closer to 6'9" because he wasn't shorter than Tyler Mane who was the same as Kevin Nash. AndreFan says on 9/Aug/10
For what it's worth, this could be a startling illustration of the immensity of Andre's push, pull, squeeze and ripping strength Click Here This was a Big John Studd LJN action figure from 1984, I had one, it was made with what seems like industrial strength truck tire rubber but Andre tears it like a kaiser roll. I know the world of wrestling is full of contrived spectacles and embellishments but if this feat is real, Andre would be as strong as a 500lb Silverback Gorilla. Also note the prodigiousness of the giant's hands as he shakes Albano's, Lou can only manage to grasp 2 of Andre's plantain-oid digits. I would like to add that was a withered and diminished Andre in 1991, the obvious signs of congestive heart disease was mournfully apparent; the giant was pallid and bloated in the face and exhibited the decrepitude resulting not only from being an old acromegalic giant but from decades of hard living other excesses. aarod says on 7/Aug/10
JT, you rotated the andre and wilt picture incorrectly. you have wilt's heel AN INCH HIGHER than andre's, and you subtract 1.5" from andre's height, when in fact, wilt's mocassin's have a significant heel too. JUST GIVE UP DUDE.. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, it is obvious that you manipulate the picture in such a way as to try and make Andre out to be shorter than he really is. Andre IS a legitimate 7 footer in 1983, those pics prove that. you have 3 pics to go by now, one with wilt and andre both standing erect, one with andre's head tilted down, and one with Wilt's head tilted down. the fact that the feet are level in this last new picture that just surfaced and Andre actually has 1 inch on Wilt proves that Andre is 7 feet in 1983, if Wilt is 7'1 1/16" like the guiness says he is, even with the slight heel advantage of the coyboy boots.
just stop already, you SUCK at photo analysis. aarod says on 7/Aug/10
haystacks was 6'7" ish. he was slightly shorter than giant baba in one of their matches, and baba is known to be 6'8". AndreFan says on 6/Aug/10
I would like to add that that was a withered and diminished Andre in 1991, the obvious signs of congestive heart disease was mournfully apparent; the giant was pallid and bloated in the face and exhibited the decrepitude resulting not only from being an old acromegalic giant but from decades of hard living other excesses. AndreFan says on 6/Aug/10
For what it's worth, this could be a startling illustration of the immensity of Andre's push, pull, squeeze and ripping strength Click Here This was a Big John Studd LJN action figure from 1984, I had one, it was made with what seems like industrial strength truck tire rubber but Andre tears it like a kaiser roll. I know the world of wrestling is full of contrived spectacles and embellishments but if this feat is real, Andre would be as strong as a 500lb Silverback Gorilla. Also note the prodigiousness of the giant's hands as he shakes Albano's, Lou can only manage to grasp 2 of Andre's plantain-oid digits. AndreFan says on 6/Aug/10
For what it's worth, this could be a startling illustration of the immensity of Andre's push, pull, squeeze and ripping strength Click Here This was a Big John Studd LJN action figure from 1984, I had one, it was made with what seems like industrial strength truck tire rubber but Andre tears it like a kaiser roll. I know the world of wrestling is full of contrived spectacles and embellishments but if this feat is real, Andre would be as strong as a 500lb Silverback Gorilla. Also note the prodigiousness of the giant's hands as he shakes Albano's, Lou can only manage to grasp 2 of Andre's plantain-oid digits. Big John says on 6/Aug/10
Andre was actually 7'4" , when poop didn't stink! he's 6'11.5" tops. Anonymous says on 6/Aug/10
i see about 2 inches between quinn and haystacks dicksock says on 6/Aug/10
You guys need to see the story of this guy named Ross: Click Here Anonymous says on 6/Aug/10
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Here's another historical giant, who is not only tall but wide as well.
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And Calvin is no stringbean either, I wonder if he has ever been approached by a wrestling company. Richard says on 6/Aug/10
@Danimal
I for one think Hogan was 6'5 in his prime. 6'6 is moot Chaz says on 6/Aug/10
AndreFan,you do not know what you are talking about laden is 435lbs, Bissad is 465lbs,Bissad has size 28 us shoes Ladan's are 26,bissad has much longer hands than him 10.59''long and 13.1''span that is the longest in the world,and has is clear he has the wideist shoulders of any Known Giant or anyone I would think,so all you have is a bigger head lol,and that only looks small because he is so wide. Mr Big says on 6/Aug/10
Chaz, the fight you are talking about with Jhon Quinn was from japan, and he was using the name Hogan. it was a 6 man tag match, and they where on the same side. Quinn also fought Andre, and Big Jon Stud in japan. and you are right him and hogan where about the same size. but i think Hogan may have been a bit taller. i have seen the video of it so someone must be able to find it, think it was from 1982/3 and quinn is defanatly over 6'4'' and maybe even 6'5''. Chaz says on 6/Aug/10
Danimal,I said about the same size,height and weight,but it was befor he was called Hulk,and yes there is no way Hogan as ever been over 6'5''barefoot the man is full of crap,from is 24''arms to he's 340lbs bodyweight,and he's so called 3''height lose lol,he was shoter than John Tenta so all this 6'6'' crap is fantasy land,there is more chance of Andre being over 7' than Hogan being over 6'6''. Danimal says on 5/Aug/10
Chaz on Andre The Giant
the trouble is people are not posting like for like on here of couse Andre weighed over 500lbs but in his best shape, when he was one of the best wrestlers about. he was in the 380-440lbs, but what people keeep doing is saying that Andre was 550lbs as if he was that weight all the time, when he was over 500lbs he was in a bad state, could hardly walk and was near death. when he was being build at 480lbs he was more than likey areound the 400lbs mark, and its no good keep posting pics of Giant Haystacks againts Big Show, in 1986 when he was as fat as a pig and 49 then saying he was only 6'6'' there is no way Haystacks was only 6'6'' ive seen the man standing next to a door which was at least 6'6'' maybe 2meters. and here he is with the mighty John Quinn, who was at the very least 6'4.5-5'' and he is at least 3-4'' taller than him. in fact the is a old fight im trying to find of a very young Hulk Hogan and him and Quinn are about the same size in it. but for some reason i cant find it at the moment, there is also a fight with Jim Duggen from the WCW days with Haystacks but cant find that either. so if anybody else can find them which would despell any rubish about Yokozuna being as big as Haystacks,because you cant see Jim Duggen when Haystacks is standing in front of him. Click Here
So, you're claiming that a young Hogan was only 6'4.5"-6'5"? AndreFan says on 5/Aug/10
Chaz, I have seen Bissad Click Here and while he is impressive, he has a remarkably tiny head for such a ponderous body Click Here look at the mass of Laden Click Here I think The Ultimate Warrior would have gotten a hernia trying to slam this guy. AndreFan says on 5/Aug/10
Chaz, I have seen Bissad Click Here and while he is impressive, he has a remarkably tiny head for such a ponderous body Click Here look at the mass of Laden Click Here I think The Ultimate Warrior would have gotten a hyneria trying to slam this guy. Chaz says on 5/Aug/10
AndreFan if you think Andre and Ladan were vast you better Look up Hussein Bissad,when he came to Britain he's sholders were too wide to fit in a CT scaner,so he was sent to Sweden in the cargo hold were he was scand on a CT scaner used for race horse's. Chaz says on 5/Aug/10
NCL 189cm is 6'2.5' NCL says on 5/Aug/10
I don't see them on here but Big Show posted some really awesome photos on Big Show's page with Bill Anderson. Big Show guessed Anderson to be 6'1", Anderson claims 6'2" on his myspace (assuming it's his actual page, see no reason for it not to be) Click Here
Anyway, here's Anderson with Andre in 1986 Click Here
Anderson with peak Paul White (note Big Show's footwear) Click Here
Anderson with Kareem Abdul- Jabbar: Click Here dicksock says on 5/Aug/10
Andre claimed to have been up to 540lbs in 1981 in that SI article:
"Like most people who drink because they enjoy it rather than because they have to, Andre isn't bothered overmuch by the occasional dry period. Last year, for example, after an extended trip to Japan and Australia, he found that his weight had reached the unacceptably high figure of 540 pounds, whereupon he put himself on a strict diet—no alcohol, and only one meal a day. In four weeks he dropped 80 pounds, which becomes less surprising with the realization that he consumes approximately 7,000 calories in alcohol a day."
I don't know why people keep trying to act like Andre would have soooo much bigger than Paul Wight or Paul bigger than Andre. They would have been very close in height and in size. Andre was probably naturally bigger overall, but due to Paul's gym muscles, he would have weighed about the same and appeared close in size. WCW Paul Wight and 1973 Andre (Jean Ferre) would have been the same size and height in my opinion; with the subtle differences I stated above. Rick Springfield says on 4/Aug/10
I think if you fast forward to about a minute and a half and watch the stare down between hulk and andre you can see the top of hulks head barley goes up to Andre's eyebrows looks like a four in a half to five inch difference making Andre between six ten and six eleven. Click Here if hulk was a six five or six six wen this match went down AndreFan says on 4/Aug/10
I've perused the untrammeled depths of the internet to only find two specimens of portentous giants, Andre and Wight, most giants from antiquity to the contemporary look like this Click Here and this Click Here languid and moribund. Perhaps only Igor Laden Click Here shares the vastness of Andre and Wight. Chaz says on 4/Aug/10
this is all i can find of it he is the first guy getting flattend Click Here Chaz says on 4/Aug/10
the trouble is people are not posting like for like on here of couse Andre weighed over 500lbs but in his best shape, when he was one of the best wrestlers about. he was in the 380-440lbs, but what people keeep doing is saying that Andre was 550lbs as if he was that weight all the time, when he was over 500lbs he was in a bad state, could hardly walk and was near death. when he was being build at 480lbs he was more than likey areound the 400lbs mark, and its no good keep posting pics of Giant Haystacks againts Big Show, in 1986 when he was as fat as a pig and 49 then saying he was only 6'6'' there is no way Haystacks was only 6'6'' ive seen the man standing next to a door which was at least 6'6'' maybe 2meters. and here he is with the mighty John Quinn, who was at the very least 6'4.5-5'' and he is at least 3-4'' taller than him. in fact the is a old fight im trying to find of a very young Hulk Hogan and him and Quinn are about the same size in it. but for some reason i cant find it at the moment, there is also a fight with Jim Duggen from the WCW days with Haystacks but cant find that either. so if anybody else can find them which would despell any rubish about Yokozuna being as big as Haystacks,because you cant see Jim Duggen when Haystacks is standing in front of him. Click Here Danimal says on 4/Aug/10
LG69 says on 3/Aug/10
@"Chris Zaun" Andre was never 420lbs? What stuff are you smoking? It was documented in "Larger than Life", that his weight peaked at 550lbs. Andre was more massive than Big Show, no doubt.
Andre's heaviest weight was 565 pounds. In 2006/2007, Big Show was close to 550 pounds himself. Danimal says on 4/Aug/10
Mikew says on 3/Aug/10
Vegas: Don't get smart. I think he was 6'4," or at least between 6'3" and 6'4", based upon, among other things, the way he stood next to Duggan in his old Mid South days. I have no idea whether he was listed at 6'3" in his college days, as you represent, or which year that listing would have been from, or whether any such listing was updated. Obviously, people can grow a little bit from their early 20s, though that, I wouldn't think, would be the rule. I'd say that, whatever he was say at the age of 21-22, would have been his height later. Keep in mind that not everyone rounds up their height also. He could have been 6'3 and change and been listed at 6'3."
Agreed. He was most certainly taller than Jim Duggan in the early/mid 80's. The footage is up on youtube. An easy 6'3", if not taller and in 1979, Hogan had a good 2-3" on him in their match. LG69 says on 3/Aug/10
@"Chris Zaun" Andre was never 420lbs? What stuff are you smoking? It was documented in "Larger than Life", that his weight peaked at 550lbs. Andre was more massive than Big Show, no doubt. Mikew says on 3/Aug/10
Vegas: Don't get smart. I think he was 6'4," or at least between 6'3" and 6'4", based upon, among other things, the way he stood next to Duggan in his old Mid South days. I have no idea whether he was listed at 6'3" in his college days, as you represent, or which year that listing would have been from, or whether any such listing was updated. Obviously, people can grow a little bit from their early 20s, though that, I wouldn't think, would be the rule. I'd say that, whatever he was say at the age of 21-22, would have been his height later. Keep in mind that not everyone rounds up their height also. He could have been 6'3 and change and been listed at 6'3." tyson86 says on 3/Aug/10
its hard to nail down exact heights with billed heights. one thing im not sure about is john studd billed 6'10" because hogan was billed 6'8" if hogan was 6'6" legit then studd could not have been 6'5-6" also jake roberts was billed 6'5" but in actual fact i belive this to be legit.kevin nash in 1993 was given 6'10" then 7ft when he started in the ring instead of a body guard.i belive altough now billed 7'1" he was a legit 6'10".haystacks billed 6'11" is too hard to call due to his enourmous size plus paul white wore massive lifts in thier match and was probably in my view 7'1" anyway back then.i would say on the outlook andre lost somewhere around 3" of height over the late 80s to early 90s i would put his tallest at somewhere to 7'0.5"-1.5" early 70s. AndreFan says on 2/Aug/10
Sorry dudes, just experimenting with this tinyurl click here crap, will be posting some interesting stuff once I get the hang of it. Click Here Vegas says on 2/Aug/10
Mikew; how tall do you think ted dibiase was?? he was listed at 6'3 in college football in his early 20s so maybe you think he grew?? Red says on 2/Aug/10
Capt. Nobody says on 1/Aug/10
Also, it appears more and more to me that Andre lost most of his height in his neck. By WM5 he literally had no neck. Never had much of one anyway, but he developed some severe scoliosis by that time.
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Agree
peak Andres chin level (normal headposition) was 1.5"-2" higher than his shoulder level, even in the late seventies his chin level was about his shoulder level. Mikew says on 1/Aug/10
"Andre is just above the 7’1” line and Gonzalez is just below the 7’10” line (the usual ~ 4 inches above actual barefoot height)"
JT: So Andre was 6'9" in your opinion, correct? Capt. Nobody says on 1/Aug/10
Red: Nah, the scale is slightly wrong. Andre had one of the largest heads anyone has ever seen. Hulk Hogan has a pretty big dome himself and a face to face comparison between he and Andre is strikingly in favor of Andre.
Also, it appears more and more to me that Andre lost most of his height in his neck. By WM5 he literally had no neck. Never had much of one anyway, but he developed some severe scoliosis by that time. dicksock says on 1/Aug/10
Andre was 7'1.5-7'2" in cowboy boots and 6'11"-7' barefoot. It seems most people on here can see that. Hell, even chaz is giving Andre over 6'11" in the daytime and he has less respect for Andre than the Iron Sheik has. Red says on 1/Aug/10
Capt. Nobody says on 31/Jul/10
Oh, except that the picture slightly out of scale. No way is Shows head bigger than Andre's.
Don´t forget the big big tilt of Andres head. Red says on 1/Aug/10
AndreFan says on 31/Jul/10
Enough with these ludicrous cranium comparisons, in those risible pictures, The scale is exaggerated in Wight's favor and is incongruous to reality as Chris Jericho's head is larger tha Andre's. Those head shots of Andre need to be sized up an additional 25% to be accurate.
Andre´s head just looks small because of the backward tilt, he has a longer head than Big Show if you rotate his head to a normal position JT says on 31/Jul/10
When Andre became “broken down,” it was definitely after 1987, as he looked every bit as tall next to Mean Gene then as he did in 1976 after factoring in the at least 1 inch footwear advantage for the 1976 Andre in cowboy boots. Click Here Click Here
Regarding the Andre/Gonzalez cinder block wall comparison: Click Here Andre is just above the 7’1” line and Gonzalez is just below the 7’10” line (the usual ~ 4 inches above actual barefoot height), or about an 8 inch difference. Click Here Click Here Gonzalez wore boots with really small heels (far less than 1 inch) back then but not quite as small as Andre’s Click Here Yes, Andre could stand a little taller. However, the camera is at a higher level in Gonzalez’s pic, so his height relative to the wall behind him is not exaggerated quite as much.
Kevin Nash also came up above Gonzalez’s lip in poster Chris’ pic. Click Here Taker was a little above Gonzalez's chin. Lear1983 says on 31/Jul/10
Hogan was 6'6" and Andre was 6'11.5" at WM 3 , Rob was right, case closed Capt. Nobody says on 31/Jul/10
Oh, except that the picture slightly out of scale. No way is Shows head bigger than Andre's. Matt Morgan and Kevin Nashs' heads are almost the same scale as Andre. Not a chance! Hogan and Nash had comparable sized heads and we have all seen the Andre/Hogan WM3 staredown pics, so we know it's like comparing the earth and the moon. Capt. Nobody says on 31/Jul/10
Wow, good job Red. I think that's about as accurate as you get. iconjj says on 31/Jul/10
I'm gonna go ahead and stand by my comparison, on this one. AndreFan says on 31/Jul/10
Enough with these ludicrous cranium comparisons, in those risible pictures, The scale is exaggerated in Wight's favor and is incongruous to reality as Chris Jericho's head is larger tha Andre's. Those head shots of Andre need to be sized up an additional 25% to be accurate. Red says on 31/Jul/10
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1989 Andre compared to after-peak-Big-Show is much closer.
Big Show is clearly not the same height today as he was in 1996.
I think he peaked between 7´0.25" and 7´1" and is 6´11.5" today. Red says on 31/Jul/10
Capt. Nobody says on 31/Jul/10
After studying heel shape and size differential, this is what I come up with as a balanced photographic example.
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That looks spot on, 1.75-2" was the legit difference between a ´89 Andre and a peak ´96 Big Show Danimal says on 31/Jul/10
Clay says on 29/Jul/10
Danimal says on 29/Jul/10
7'0" at his peak. I'm standing behind that. Could have been 6'11.5". Could have been 7'0.25". I'm going with an even 7'0" at his peak.
Agreed. Around 7'0'' for the big guy.
Glad we agree on something! Mikew says on 31/Jul/10
Don't you guys love how JT, in trying to further his agenda, presents his obviously biased opinions of others' heights as facts? DiBiase's "real" 6'3" height? Says who, you? 6'4" "tops" Bruiser Brody? Again, says who? Me says on 31/Jul/10
I'll say it again:
No matter how bad my day is going I can always count on a good laugh when I pull up this site and see some of the comments and comparisons done here. You guys are the balls.LOL JT says on 31/Jul/10
Click Here Click Here Click Here (Chris posted this several years ago).
Using the cinder block wall method, Ted Dibiase is close to 6’7” in boots or about a 4 inch boost over his real 6’3” barefoot height Click Here Stan Hansen is a little over 6’5” in boots or about a 4 inch boost over his real barefoot height given how he measures up to 6’4” tops Bruiser Brody Click Here John Studd would be at least 6’10” in boots if he narrowed his stance, or about a 4 inch boost over his real barefoot height given how he measured up to Bill Fralic and an old Don Stansauk (Hardboiled Haggerty) Click Here
So when we examine photos of guys standing in front of cinder block walls when the camera is below their heads, we can subtract about 4 inches from Andre and Backlund to get their real barefoot heights Click Here
If we had a full body photo of Andre where the camera was at the level of the top of his head, then the cinder block approach “may” be pretty accurate, assuming the blocks are 7.5” high and there is precisely 0.5” of mortar between each block.
NCL, the high camera advantage favors Hogan at 8:55. Earthquake measured up better next to anyone Hogan stood next to during the 1980s (Gene, Bossman, Tugboat…) Capt. Nobody says on 31/Jul/10
After studying heel shape and size differential, this is what I come up with as a balanced photographic example.
Click Here chris zaun says on 30/Jul/10
paul big show wight is taller and bigger/wider than andre,it just breaks some andre fans hearts to hear this.a young paul wight was 7foot and a half inch,a young andre was 6foot 11,paul white in his prime was 420lbs of solid muscle,hes a soft 485 in 2010,andre was never a rock solid 420,in fact i dont think anyone is. AndreFan says on 30/Jul/10
The side by side head size comparisons of Andre and Paul Wight are spectacularly inept and implausible; Andre's misshapen cranium was signicantly larger than Wight's. The scale is skewed as Andre's image is further back, Andre's head was even disproportionately large for his prodigious frame where Wight's head seems proportional. JT is either aggrandizing Wight and purposely disparaging Andre or knows nothing about scale. Red says on 30/Jul/10
JT says on 30/Jul/10
...of a 1989 Andre and 1996 Big Show would probably be close to reality (about a 3 inch difference).
No need to increase the difference, it´s 2.35 inches and the footwear difference is for sure more than a quater inch.
So we have the fact that a broken down Andre was at most 2 inches under a peak Big Show.
Look at Andres neck and compare that to a young healthy Andre. Andre´s neck was already broken down before his Back surgerie.
peak Andre 7´0" - 7´0.25"
Andre from the early eighties 6´11.5"
Andre after back surgery 6´10.5" - 6´11"
Old broken down Andre in his last years 6´10"-6´10.5" Red says on 30/Jul/10
Capt. Nobody says on 30/Jul/10
Red: there is no way in hell Haystacks head was that much bigger than Studds
Look again the difference is just from the mouth downwards Red says on 30/Jul/10
Chaz says on 30/Jul/10
Red,if you think Haystacks,was 6'6.75''then so was Mane becuase he had no more height over Pat Roach than Haystacks did
Look at JT´s Akebono/ Haystacks comparison - even with footwear disadvantage Haystacks wouldn´t be 6´7" barefoot at that point. Me says on 30/Jul/10
No matter how bad my day is going I can always count on a good laugh when I pull up this site and see some of the comments and comparisons done here. You guys are the balls.LOL JT says on 30/Jul/10
In fairness to Red, that comparison of a 1989 Andre and 1996 Big Show would probably be close to reality (about a 3 inch difference). Studd was above Andre’s eyeline, whereas Haystacks was well over 1 inch below Big Show’s eyeline (and Big Show has a larger forehead than Andre) Click Here
IMO Haystacks in 1996 would have been a little taller than Studd, though the latter wore boots with a bigger heel – therefore both would have been around 6’7” in their boots. 6’8” Akebono would be around 6’9” in his dress shoes, or 2 inches taller than Haystacks in his boots, which this comparison suggests. Click Here And Haystacks did have a large head like studd.
Big Show’s boots did have a heel around 25 percent larger than Andre’s in 1989, though we are only talking about a ¼” here (1.25” to 1”).
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dicksock says on 29/Jul/10
The fact is that the Andre/Backlund picture should have ended this debate of whether Andre was over or under 6'11"
Click Here Chaz says on 30/Jul/10
Red,if you think Haystacks,was 6'6.75''then so was Mane becuase he had no more height over Pat Roach than Haystacks did,and that would make an Old Andre not much over 6'8''lol,the truth is Mane and Haystacks were about 6'8''in the evening and Andre was about 6'10.75''evening,they would all be at least 1/2-1''taller out of bed.and Hogan was never taller than Tenta he was about 1'' shorter.most on here see what they want to see,and pic out the few times someone looks taller and wipe over the 99% OF THE TIME THEY LOOK SHORTER. Capt. Nobody says on 30/Jul/10
Red: there is no way in hell Haystacks head was that much bigger than Studds. Studd had a huge head.
The comparison of Andre and Wight might be somewhat close though. Factoring in Wights heel advantage they are pretty close for a broken down Andre prime Wight stare down. Still, the scale is slightly wrong. Asdasd says on 30/Jul/10
It's the obey giant, right? NCL says on 29/Jul/10
I don't think Hogan being peak 6'5" is an impossible idea, but I do agree in thinking he was 6'6" at peak. Pause at the 8:55 mark:
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Hogan IMO looks just slightly taller than Tenta. He was measured in sumo wrestling at 6'5.75". That article has been posted on here quite a few times, anyone got it by any chance? I don't think there's a footwear issue with Tenta and Hogan in that match either, boots look the same to me.
Hogan now - I think he's struggling with 6'3.5" |
