How tall is Andre The Giant

Andre The Giant's Height

7ft 0in (213 cm)

Andre Rene Roussimoff was a French Wrestler and Actor from The Princess Bride. His official site gives him 7ft 4, also shows his 'measured' height from wrestlemania 3 (1987) as a whopping 7ft 5. He suffered from acromelagy and was supposedly 6ft 7 age 17. His spine took a lot of damage over his career.

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miko said on 27/Sep/16
If Andre was measured at 2.14cm it was in cowboy boots.

Unless Hogan was 6'8.
Boss said on 26/Sep/16
Andre was obviously measured at 2.14m at some point.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 26/Sep/16
2,11m age 22,
2,14m in his own words and described on tape 1971again at age 25 - Andre claimed to stop growing in height at age 24.
Not to forget the story about Frenchy Bernard claiming Andre was measured 7´0.5"...

sounds as legit as it gets to me. They didn´t care for eveningheight (or like guinness 3-10measurements/ day and take the average),
so he for sure was this tall at the time of the measurement.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 26/Sep/16
dicksock said on 25/Sep/16
Here is Andre a few months before he turned 22:
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I might be wrong, but it sounds like the narrator is saying 211cm, which would be 6'11".




Yes, 2,11m and 144kg
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 26/Sep/16
dicksock said on 25/Sep/16
Out of curiosity, does anyone understand French well enough to clarify what Andre's billing was in this clip from August 1971?
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This was Andre at his most physically impressive in my opinion. Looked to be at least 6'11" and a fit 350lbs or more.




2,14m 180kg
dicksock said on 25/Sep/16
Here is Andre a few months before he turned 22:
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I might be wrong, but it sounds like the narrator is saying 211cm, which would be 6'11".
dicksock said on 25/Sep/16
Out of curiosity, does anyone understand French well enough to clarify what Andre's billing was in this clip from August 1971?
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This was Andre at his most physically impressive in my opinion. Looked to be at least 6'11" and a fit 350lbs or more.
dicksock said on 24/Sep/16
Danimal said on 23/Sep/16
dicksock said on 21/Sep/16
Boss said on 20/Sep/16
Here is Shaq with his head touching the wall next to a ruler. He measures right around 7'2.5" with shoes on here.
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The draft measurement with shoes was after a night practice so Shaq wasn't at his tallest. Also, Shaq could have still be growing at age 20 considering his size.

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He's not 7'2.5" there; he's exactly 7'2". This is consistent with another similar picture where he was standing next to a ruler. I firmly believe Shaq was and is 7'1" legit. Based on how he looked next to Hogan in 1994 (before any height loss for Hogan), he was taller than Andre. There is just no way around that if you are being honest with yourself.

That's debatable. It's been said that Hogan had already lost a little over 1" by the early 90's due to surgery he underwent (6'6" to 6'5" or just shy of 6'5").

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What surgery? I've never heard of Hogan having major surgery (or minor for that matter) in the early 90s. He looked exactly the same as he ever did next to Mean Gene and seemed to be in phenomenal shape. I doubt he was ever more than 6'5.5" or so. By WCW, he still looked about 6'5" or a little more. But, it's hard to pinpoint his peak height, so I just go with 6'5"-6'6", kind of like I say 6'11"-7' for a peak Andre. My gut tells me that both Hogan and Andre were closer to the low end of my estimates.
straightahead said on 24/Sep/16
Here we go again with all these height lost excuses. Fact is, theres no such evidence to support that Hogan hast lost anymore than 1 inch. If so, bring it up?! Hogan had the same amount of height over Mean Gene in the 2000's like he had back in the early 80's.
me said on 24/Sep/16
Shaq in front of a ruler 7'2" in more than 1 pic in more than likely good sized sneakers. Wilt consistently was taller than Shaq . Andre was the same height if not a tad taller than Wilt with a 1.5" footwear advantage. 7'2" -1.5" = 7'.5" for Andre without Military posture like he had in a few other pics. Certainly shows Andre was over 7'.
George Wagner said on 24/Sep/16
Just measure the bricks in photo of Andre and Bob Backlund. Andre is exactly 7 feet tall and his head is 12" from the bottom of the chin to the top of his forehead. He lost about 2-3 inches in height, in later years, due to his condition and decreasing posture.
Danimal said on 23/Sep/16
dicksock said on 21/Sep/16
Boss said on 20/Sep/16
Here is Shaq with his head touching the wall next to a ruler. He measures right around 7'2.5" with shoes on here.
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The draft measurement with shoes was after a night practice so Shaq wasn't at his tallest. Also, Shaq could have still be growing at age 20 considering his size.

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He's not 7'2.5" there; he's exactly 7'2". This is consistent with another similar picture where he was standing next to a ruler. I firmly believe Shaq was and is 7'1" legit. Based on how he looked next to Hogan in 1994 (before any height loss for Hogan), he was taller than Andre. There is just no way around that if you are being honest with yourself.

That's debatable. It's been said that Hogan had already lost a little over 1" by the early 90's due to surgery he underwent (6'6" to 6'5" or just shy of 6'5").
Capt. Nobody said on 22/Sep/16
Boss said on 22/Sep/16
Andre and Shaq would have been real close in height. Andre matched up to Wilt and Arnold better than Shaq. Andre has 2" boots and Shaq 1.5" sneakers. Hogan is a terrible height reference point because his crazy height loss, possible lifts and cowboy boots in ring.

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I don't know if Shaq was mistaken, or making it up, or what Andre had on his feet at the time but remember I saw an interview during a Sacramento Kings game 2 seasons ago I think, where the players were talking about their favorite wrestlers and Shaq vividly described meeting Andre in an airport and from what I remember he said Andre was taller than him.

I can't seem to find the clip but I'm sure if you contacted the organization or did some digging on their site you might be able to find it.
Capt. Nobody said on 22/Sep/16
mrtguy said on 22/Sep/16
There's no way Shaq is only 7ft. He's got to be more or that means Kevin Garnett is 6'10" at most which is absurd.

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Remember though, basketball measurements are usually listed with shoes on. Most 7 footers in the NBA are really in the 6'10.5" range. Wilt Chamberlain would probably be listed at 7'3" in todays game if he wore a shoe like many of the players today do because they typically round up as well.
dicksock said on 22/Sep/16
Boss said on 21/Sep/16
Andre at age 19 at 7' and 350 pounds.
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Yeah, that's what he was listed at in that picture. He was also billed at 210cm or 6'10.5" at 19-23 and I think as low as 208cm early on. He was more like 6'10" 280-300lbs in that pic. Again, Andre claimed he didn't stop growing until 1970/71 and he was billed at 7'0.25" at that point. There is no way he was above 6'10" in the mid 60s. It is unheard of for a big guy to be under billed in wrestling. 99.9% of the time, the billing is taller than the true height and 0.1% it's actually accurate.
Chaz said on 22/Sep/16
Boss said on 22/Sep/16
Rob has stated several times that Andre would lose roughly 2" daily in height because of his enormous size. Also, that Andre wakes up around 7'1" and down to 6'11" by night. Hence the 7' listing here.

Yes so how much more did Giant Haystacks loose over the day 3''? he was much bigger in weight. no way was Andre ever over 6'10 '' at night. and you can go on about the wilt photos as much as you like,the fact is he's near the camara,and in cowboy boots.and still .5'' shorter,that makes him 2.5-3" shorter
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 22/Sep/16
JT said on 20/Sep/16
Capt. Nobody, Wilt was 1+ inches taller than Andre despite probably a 1.5” or more footwear disadvantage. It’s absurd to think Andre in comparable footwear was even close in height to guys like Wilt or Shaq. Click Here

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YOU seriously need help if you believe Wilt was 1"++ taller than a cowboybootet Andre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Peak Andre barefoot was maybe 1.5" shorter than Shaq & Wilt, that´s it PERIOD Hater
Boss said on 22/Sep/16
Rob has stated several times that Andre would lose roughly 2" daily in height because of his enormous size. Also, that Andre wakes up around 7'1" and down to 6'11" by night. Hence the 7' listing here.
Boss said on 22/Sep/16
Wilt was taller than Shaq. Andre in cowboy boots was taller than Wilt. Andre could stand taller with Wilt. This is a fact. We have pics of Shaq with Wilt and Shaq with Arnold and Andre with both men. So why use other people when we have multiple pics of them all side by side. It doesn't make any sense. Andre was 2.14m at least peak unless we find video on the 7'1" Andre measurement. Also, Captain and Red did some Letterman shots with Andre and Richard Kiel pretty close in height using the same reference points from the show. Andre in 2" cowboy boots is same height as 7'1.5" Keil in his 1" Nike's.
Boss said on 22/Sep/16
Andre and Shaq would have been real close in height. Andre matched up to Wilt and Arnold better than Shaq. Andre has 2" boots and Shaq 1.5" sneakers. Hogan is a terrible height reference point because his crazy height loss, possible lifts and cowboy boots in ring.

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mrtguy said on 22/Sep/16
There's no way Shaq is only 7ft. He's got to be more or that means Kevin Garnett is 6'10" at most which is absurd.
62B said on 22/Sep/16
JT said on 17/Sep/16
There’s zero evidence Andre was 6’3” at age 12 just like there is zero evidence to the claim that his grandfather was 7’8” (which was intended to make his height genetic and not due to an obvious pituitary tumor).

In his own words, Andre’s brother said Andre really started to grow at age 16 Click Here meaning that he had a few years left to grow before the epiphyseal plates fused. Rob also cites the repeated reference to Andre being 6’7” at age 17, although the source is not clear.

Paul Wight was reportedly 6’8” in 9th grade Click Here and grew at most another 4 inches and his disease was every bit as bad as Andre’s. Wight said he did not think he would have gotten any taller if he did not have pituitary tumor removed at age 19, so that info probably came from his endocrinologist.
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Not sure, but are you trying to compare growth spurts between Andre and Paul Wight? If so I think that would not even be relevant. I my self went into the 9th grade at 5'3" and went into the 10th grade at 5'10", most of the height occurred the summer between the end of the 9th and beginning of the 10th, People would comment that they thought they could actually see me grow I was growing so fast. My point I guess, is that you have no clue to either's growth spurts, and you just have no way of knowing who grew how much and when, or who grew more. I mean you say Paul grew at most 4" from the 9th grade on. I grew 7" in one year at that age, and then another 5" before I stopped growing
Capt. Nobody said on 21/Sep/16
Chaz said on 20/Sep/16


With a peak Shaq down to 7' there is no chance of Andre/Show being 7'

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It's a possibility for sure.
Capt. Nobody said on 21/Sep/16
JT said on 20/Sep/16
Dicksock, Big Show at 19 (~7’0” and 330 lbs. or so and in good shape playing b-ball) was both taller and heavier than Andre at that same age, so yes it’s fair to assume his acromegaly/gigantism was every bit as bad. Andre probably did not reach that weight until his mid 20s.

Capt. Nobody, Wilt was 1+ inches taller than Andre despite probably a 1.5” or more footwear disadvantage. It’s absurd to think Andre in comparable footwear was even close in height to guys like Wilt or Shaq. Click Here

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So, lets say Andre is 2.5" shorter than Wilt just for the sake of conversation. Shaq is about that much taller than Show in equal footwear and Wilt was taller than Shaq, so where do Show and Andre compare then?

And it's the same repetitive story, once one of your own comparison shots was brought into scale horizontally it showed Andre slightly taller than Wilt while in boots. Now it's up to how much of a difference posture makes for either person. Here's a quick shot I did with Andre stretching out. It still comes down to heel size and Andre standing his tallest. That's the only way to effectively nail this down.

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Chaz said on 21/Sep/16
dicksock said on 21/Sep/16 He's not 7'2.5" there; he's exactly 7'2". This is consistent with another similar picture where he was standing next to a ruler. I firmly believe Shaq was and is 7'1" legit. Based on how he looked next to Hogan in 1994 (before any height loss for Hogan), he was taller than Andre. There is just no way around that if you are being honest with yourself.

I think he is or was every bit off the 7'08" he was measued at more than once,and like you say he is taller than both Andre and Show,and he is a big guy in weight to, not like Wilt or a lot of other 7' basket players,this a man that is not shy of getting next to to things to show he's height and both times he's 7'2'' in trainers,even with the big heels some have no way is he under 7'.5''.

Rob you can't keep having a 7' Show and Andre when you have 7' Shaq they both need a downgrade,no way are they he's height,it's laughable.
dicksock said on 21/Sep/16
Boss said on 20/Sep/16
Here is Shaq with his head touching the wall next to a ruler. He measures right around 7'2.5" with shoes on here.
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The draft measurement with shoes was after a night practice so Shaq wasn't at his tallest. Also, Shaq could have still be growing at age 20 considering his size.

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He's not 7'2.5" there; he's exactly 7'2". This is consistent with another similar picture where he was standing next to a ruler. I firmly believe Shaq was and is 7'1" legit. Based on how he looked next to Hogan in 1994 (before any height loss for Hogan), he was taller than Andre. There is just no way around that if you are being honest with yourself.
Boss said on 21/Sep/16
Andre at age 19 at 7' and 350 pounds.
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62B said on 20/Sep/16
straightahead said on 19/Sep/16
Funny how Luger claims 6'4 when he was listed 6'3 in football...
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Lugar came right past me at an event in the late 80's. It was either 88' or 89. My 6'6" buddy tried to pat him on the back and Lugar stiff armed him sending him flying. I was 6'3" to 6'3 1/4". Lugar did not break stride so it was hard to tell for sure, but I felt he was shorter than me. He wasn't even close to my 6'6" friend
Boss said on 20/Sep/16
Here is Shaq with his head touching the wall next to a ruler. He measures right around 7'2.5" with shoes on here.
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The draft measurement with shoes was after a night practice so Shaq wasn't at his tallest. Also, Shaq could have still be growing at age 20 considering his size.
JT said on 20/Sep/16
Dicksock, Big Show at 19 (~7’0” and 330 lbs. or so and in good shape playing b-ball) was both taller and heavier than Andre at that same age, so yes it’s fair to assume his acromegaly/gigantism was every bit as bad. Andre probably did not reach that weight until his mid 20s.

Capt. Nobody, Wilt was 1+ inches taller than Andre despite probably a 1.5” or more footwear disadvantage. It’s absurd to think Andre in comparable footwear was even close in height to guys like Wilt or Shaq. Click Here
dicksock said on 20/Sep/16
62B said on 19/Sep/16
dicksock said on 18/Sep/16
Here is Lex Luger talking about meeting Andre:
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Once again, we have a former pro football player (Joe Theismann was the other) claiming Andre was the largest person he's ever met. Keep in mind that Luger worked with both Giant Gonzalez/El Gigante and Paul Wight. Andre was not the tallest, but he was the most impressive overall.
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For sure it was more than height for Andre, He was just so massive. Luger claiming 6'4" for himself
made me chuckle though.

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I think he was listed at 6'3" in football. He was probably 6'4" in sneakers anyway. He always looked a solid 6'2" at least. I wouldn't be surprised if he has lost a ton of height because of his severe health problems. I read that he had a spinal stroke years ago and that's why he looks so frail.
Chaz said on 20/Sep/16
Capt. Nobody said on 19/Sep/16 Well, I think with the evidence that's come out in the last year or so between Andre/Wilt and Shaq/Show, it's pretty clear that Andre and Wight were at least around the same height, with a good possibility of Andre edging him out when standing his tallest. That is unless you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Andre was wearing boots that gave him a nearly absurd lift.

That said, if Andre falls, so go the others.

With a peak Shaq down to 7' there is no chance of Andre/Show being 7'
62B said on 19/Sep/16
dicksock said on 18/Sep/16
Here is Lex Luger talking about meeting Andre:
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Once again, we have a former pro football player (Joe Theismann was the other) claiming Andre was the largest person he's ever met. Keep in mind that Luger worked with both Giant Gonzalez/El Gigante and Paul Wight. Andre was not the tallest, but he was the most impressive overall.
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For sure it was more than height for Andre, He was just so massive. Luger claiming 6'4" for himself
made me chuckle though.
Capt. Nobody said on 19/Sep/16
JT said on 17/Sep/16


Paul Wight was reportedly 6’8” in 9th grade Click Here and grew at most another 4 inches and his disease was every bit as bad as Andre’s. Wight said he did not think he would have gotten any taller if he did not have pituitary tumor removed at age 19, so that info probably came from his endocrinologist.


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Well, I think with the evidence that's come out in the last year or so between Andre/Wilt and Shaq/Show, it's pretty clear that Andre and Wight were at least around the same height, with a good possibility of Andre edging him out when standing his tallest. That is unless you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Andre was wearing boots that gave him a nearly absurd lift.

That said, if Andre falls, so go the others.
straightahead said on 19/Sep/16
Funny how Luger claims 6'4 when he was listed 6'3 in football...
dicksock said on 19/Sep/16
JT said on 17/Sep/16
There’s zero evidence Andre was 6’3” at age 12 just like there is zero evidence to the claim that his grandfather was 7’8” (which was intended to make his height genetic and not due to an obvious pituitary tumor).

In his own words, Andre’s brother said Andre really started to grow at age 16 Click Here meaning that he had a few years left to grow before the epiphyseal plates fused. Rob also cites the repeated reference to Andre being 6’7” at age 17, although the source is not clear.

Paul Wight was reportedly 6’8” in 9th grade Click Here and grew at most another 4 inches and his disease was every bit as bad as Andre’s. Wight said he did not think he would have gotten any taller if he did not have pituitary tumor removed at age 19, so that info probably came from his endocrinologist.

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Are you an MD? If not, stop pretending to know everything about acromegaly. You have no idea who had more severe acromegaly between Andre and Wight. You also don't know specifically when Andre got the disease and when his growth would have stopped. The best evidence we have is straight from Andre himself. Andre claimed he was 6'6"-6'8" 230-240lbs at age 15 and that he grew until age 24.
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His official bio states he was over 6' and 240lbs by 12. This is pretty consistent with what Andre says. I really doubt he was under 6' at 12 if he was 6'6-6'8" by 15. In his documentary, his childhood friends state that he was very big when they were young kids playing at the playground. It's not that uncommon for a 12 year old to be near 6'. You could probably find one that tall or taller at any school in the U.S. I would be surprised if Andre was under 6' at 12. Obviously, his weight could have fluctuated during his adolescence.
Boss said on 19/Sep/16
A&E said Andre was 7' at age 18.
Boss said on 19/Sep/16
Here is Andre with Mike Pappas and his wife. The patio doors behind Andre are 6'8" standard in US.

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Boss said on 19/Sep/16
Here it says he was 6'3" at age 12.
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dicksock said on 18/Sep/16
Here is Lex Luger talking about meeting Andre:
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Once again, we have a former pro football player (Joe Theismann was the other) claiming Andre was the largest person he's ever met. Keep in mind that Luger worked with both Giant Gonzalez/El Gigante and Paul Wight. Andre was not the tallest, but he was the most impressive overall.
Chaz said on 18/Sep/16
Boss said on 17/Sep/16
2.14m peak for Andre is very possible. Since we are only talking .75" in the difference we have to take the 1968 measurement into account as it could have been done earlier in the day than the 2.14m one and it has the most information on any measuremention we have of Andre. So you have to at least consider it and I'm sure the video will eventually show up here.

There is more chance of Elvis being found riding the Loch Ness Monster,than this made up story of Andre being Measured at the same height as Richard Kiel being true.if it is Mister Magoo must of done the measureing and could not see Andre was standing
on a box lol
JT said on 17/Sep/16
There’s zero evidence Andre was 6’3” at age 12 just like there is zero evidence to the claim that his grandfather was 7’8” (which was intended to make his height genetic and not due to an obvious pituitary tumor).

In his own words, Andre’s brother said Andre really started to grow at age 16 Click Here meaning that he had a few years left to grow before the epiphyseal plates fused. Rob also cites the repeated reference to Andre being 6’7” at age 17, although the source is not clear.

Paul Wight was reportedly 6’8” in 9th grade Click Here and grew at most another 4 inches and his disease was every bit as bad as Andre’s. Wight said he did not think he would have gotten any taller if he did not have pituitary tumor removed at age 19, so that info probably came from his endocrinologist.
Boss said on 17/Sep/16
2.14m peak for Andre is very possible. Since we are only talking .75" in the difference we have to take the 1968 measurement into account as it could have been done earlier in the day than the 2.14m one and it has the most information on any measuremention we have of Andre. So you have to at least consider it and I'm sure the video will eventually show up here.
Boss said on 17/Sep/16
Andre was being billed taller by 1971 at 2.18m in Japan and then was being billed at 7'4" in Canada.
The Ben said on 16/Sep/16
Just been to meet and greet with Kevin Nash. He says he met Andre once in WCW in 93 when Andre came in for the TBS special.
He said Andre was broken down and on crutches and was about 6'8.
I think a peak Andre at most would have perhaps just touched 7ft.
I saw him in person from a distance in 91 and he didn't appear anywhere near 7ft but he couldn't stand straight.
One thing I've found meeting wrestlers is how different their heights are in person to on TV.
I'm guessing a few have lifts.
I've met billed 6ft guys who were 6'2 and billed 6ft guys who were 5'9.
Boss said on 16/Sep/16
Andre was 6'3" and 208 pounds at 12 years of age so he was enormous before age 16. From age 16-18 he took a growth spurt going from 6'7" to 210cm (6'10.75") - 7' as told by the 1964 photo and A&E biography. Paul Wight was 6'2" by age 12.
Chaz said on 16/Sep/16
Boss said on 15/Sep/16
The top of Andre's skull thickened with acromegaly and caused his forehead to get longer and thicker as well as his jaw, nose, lips, and ears. So yes his whole head got bigger.

he's forehead did not get longer,it got thinker in the brow and bigger in hat size,both of which added nothing to he's height,

if he did then people with Acromegaly that get it after they stop growing would get taller,you only get acromegaly once you stop growing,
dicksock said on 15/Sep/16
Boss said on 14/Sep/16
First it depends on whose is doing the conversion. How many decimal points they go back and did they round up. 2.14m could be as high as 7'0.6" and 7'0.25 is the lowest it could be. So there is discrepancy in the conversion and in the 60's and 70's this is probably much more likely. 7'1" could be a high 2.15m and so on.

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Ok, now you are just grasping at straws. It's simple: One inch equals 2.54 cm. Just do 214/2.54 and you get 84.25. There is no other way to convert it. He was listed as 214cm. That can only equal 84.25". There is no rounding or converting issue. Again logic tells you if they would not bill him at 214cm if he were 214cm and change. Like I said, he was likely less than that or they would have billed him as taller.
Boss said on 15/Sep/16
The top of Andre's skull thickened with acromegaly and caused his forehead to get longer and thicker as well as his jaw, nose, lips, and ears. So yes his whole head got bigger.
Chaz said on 15/Sep/16
Boss said on 14/Sep/16
Andre being measured on a height scale that measures up to 6'10-7' with height rod attached. Andre's trainer has the height rod removed altogether by a few inches. Andre is barefoot. This alone shows he could measure over 7' with this type of posture.
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If anything they round it up,I have seen it so many times on the WSM,they say he's 6'5-6'' and then say that is 200cm next thing someone takes the 200cm and says he's 6'7'' same with 6'2'' they say that it's 190cm next thing someone takes that and says he's 6'3'',I remmber Glenn Ross saying I am 6' that was listed on BSM as 185cm,next they are saying he's 6'1''.
JT said on 15/Sep/16
Andre never looked taller than 6’10” in any outdoor daytime photo (with Shoemaker, Wilt, Frank Valois, Chris Taylor, Takahashi, Eric the Red…) so if he lost 2 inches throughout the day, that puts him at 6’9” at night….

As he got older, Andre’s brow became more pronounced and his jaw elongated a bit but there was little change in the overall head size from probably the early 1970s forward. Click Here Andre’s brother said they first noticed him becoming tall around age 16, which means a later onset of the pituitary tumor and limited additional time to grow until the epiphyseal plates fused in his long bones.
Boss said on 14/Sep/16
Andre being measured on a height scale that measures up to 6'10-7' with height rod attached. Andre's trainer has the height rod removed altogether by a few inches. Andre is barefoot. This alone shows he could measure over 7' with this type of posture.
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Boss said on 14/Sep/16
First it depends on whose is doing the conversion. How many decimal points they go back and did they round up. 2.14m could be as high as 7'0.6" and 7'0.25 is the lowest it could be. So there is discrepancy in the conversion and in the 60's and 70's this is probably much more likely. 7'1" could be a high 2.15m and so on.
dicksock said on 14/Sep/16
Boss said on 13/Sep/16
Andre's head got alot bigger after 1971 which would only add to his height until he started to actually lose height because of his condition.

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What garbage. It wasn't the top half of his head that grew! It was the bottom half of his face the kept descending. You're acting like the top half of his head kept getting taller and added to his height! Also, I'm obviously aware Andre was 24 until May 1971 if I posted that he turned 24 in May 1970. My point was that he was billed as and referred to himself as 214cm (7'0.25") after he stopped growing. Any logical person can realize he was never above this height due to this fact. Enough with the bs excuses like he lost 2" everyday even before he was obese or had back problems or that he lost half an inch after taking his morning shower. As Chaz would say, it is rubbish. The fact is he may have been measured at 7'0.25 in the morning at his tallest and was likely less because of the nature of pro wrestling billings. I'm fine with the 7' listing here if you're going with peak morning height, 6'11" if you're going with evening height, and 6'11.5" for average. He may have lost an inch by the late 80s/early 90s.
Dub said on 14/Sep/16
A man who was billed 208cm in wrestling didn't wake up at 7ft 1in I can assure you!!
Chaz said on 14/Sep/16
Boss said on 13/Sep/16
Andre's head got alot bigger after 1971 which would only add to his height until he started to actually lose height because of his condition.

when are you going to get it in your brain,the head cannot grow after the long bones fuse? it's the lower face that elongates Gums jaw,and that growns down not on the top of he's head,he's face was about 12'' or just under
Chaz said on 14/Sep/16
Boss said on 13/Sep/16
Rob has said Andre's daily height loss was closer to 2" because of his enormous size. He weighed almost 3x the average man so no sense comparing Andre's daily height loss with an average man.

No but we know the height loss for Muhammad Channa who was much taller and the same weight.7'8''morning 7'6.75'' that is 1.25''loss. and in the Shoemaker photos Andre is at he's peak and not over 400lbs,and no way can he be more that 6'10-11 there.
62B said on 13/Sep/16
dicksock said on 13/Sep/16
The average man loses roughly .5" from morning till night. I have no reason to believe a young healthy Andre would have lost more than twice that amount. I don't know anyone who shrinks .5" minutes after waking up. I'm about 5'10 out of bed, but I'm also a big boned heavy set guy. I don't lose more than .5" from morning till night. I think Andre was anywhere from 6'11.5-7'0.25" out of bed and 6'10.5"-6'11.5" by the evening in his prime. Again, I can't imagine anyone losing .5" in less than an hour much less just a few minutes. If I had to pinpoint his "average daily height", I would say 6'11.25/6'11.5" in his prime (until 1986) and 6'10.5" by the late 80s/early 90s. Pretty much the same as Paul Wight from his prime till now.
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I would pretty much agree with all of this. Right out of bed these days I am usually 6'2 7/8". I am about 6'2 3/4" an hour later and hold it through out most of day. By the end of my day I am about 6'2 1/2". The Andre I saw and thought was about 6'11" in 1988 was probably between 6'10 3/4" and 6'10 1/2" after noon through evening and probably down to 6'10 1/4" by the time he went to bed. At most you could add one inch at his peak in my opinion.
Boss said on 13/Sep/16
Rob has said Andre's daily height loss was closer to 2" because of his enormous size. He weighed almost 3x the average man so no sense comparing Andre's daily height loss with an average man.
RoelC said on 13/Sep/16
Boss said on 10/Sep/16
Andre billings slowly increased as Andre was still growing in height. Andre was growing in height into the 1970's. Andre was being billed at 2.17m and 2.18m in Japan in 1971. I found that billing in a book that said it was from 1968-69. Giant's commonly grow well into their 20's in height and some even longer. That fact that your trying everything to debunk an actual real height measurement that was aired on BCTV across Canada and the fact that the guy who doubted Andre's height and Haystacks weight wrote a favorable write up the next day in the newspaper because Andre measured a bit over 7'1" and Haystacks weighed 550 pounds. This is the best height story out there about Andre and if we find the footage you will say something like oh that's a fake measuring tape like JT is already trying to say just in case we find do find it lol.
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Andre was also billed 7’4” in Canada in 1971, so what’s your point with the Japanese listings. You really believe he was 2m17 or 2m18?

Like I’ve said before, the lowest billings are mostly the ones closest to the truth. Even if he was still growing, the height billings in the 60’s show he wasn’t growing all that much anymore. In 1965 he was listed at 210cm, In 1966 at 211cm and in 1968 212cm. That's not even an inch in 3 years! And if we take the UK billings into equation (where he was generally listed at 6’11”), you could claim he didn't grow anything between the years 1966 and and 1969. His weight clearly went up when he wrestled in the UK: 336 lbs (24 stones) compared to 322 lbs (146kg) in France in 1969, so excuses that they were using old billings also don’t add up. Based on his billings in the UK I can’t see him being any taller than 6’11”. And I doubt he grew another inch after that, considering he didn’t even grow an inch in the 4 years prior to that.

And why is that Jody Hamilton claim the best height story out there? Hamilton barely gives any more details to his measurement than Dave Meltzer did. Hamilton claims Andre was measured in Canada in 1968 and that it was shown on national TV. Meltzer claimed Andre was measured in France at the age of 24. We don’t have much to go by except we have a time and place.
Does Hamilton mention the name of the newscaster or the name of the show it was taped for? No he doesn’t. And that’s pretty crucial information if you ever want to locate this footage. Claiming a newscaster measured Andre prior to a tv-show taping is about as vague as claiming the French Athletic commission measured Andre prior to a match.

And if the footage was shown on national tv, how come no one remembers it. The only source we have for this measurement of Andre the Giant is Jody Hamilton. Never once did I hear anyone claim this measurement ever took place. There are plenty of old school wrestling fans out there. At Kayfabe Memories many vividly remember the days of wrestling in the 60’s and 70’s. And let’s not forget, Hamilton also claimed Haystacks was legitimately weighed on national TV. Now that would’ve been a huge deal back then. Haystacks was one of the most famous wrestlers of the 60’s and many see him as the predecessor of Andre. His true weight is still a discussion point to many wrestling fans. If he was weighed on national TV I would assume that at least some people would remember it.
Boss said on 13/Sep/16
Andre's head got alot bigger after 1971 which would only add to his height until he started to actually lose height because of his condition.
Boss said on 13/Sep/16
He was 24 till May 1971.
dicksock said on 13/Sep/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 12/Sep/16
dicksock said on 11/Sep/16
Andre claimed to stop growing at 24 or 1970. In 1971, he claimed to be 7'0.25" or 214cm. Obviously, he was never above this and was likely less.
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I can buy a straight out of bed morning measurement of about 7' and a 6'11"-6'11.25" evening measurement at the absolute most. Like I've said for years, Andre was between 6'11" and 7' at his tallest. It is pretty obvious.

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Yeah, 6´11"-6´11.5" peak evening.
But I doubt he only lost an inch over the day, I´m 6ft and pre surgery, I lost a full inch over the day. Andre´s back was pretty long and his legs rather short.
Sure it depends on how thick the discs are, but why should they´ve been small with all this extra growth hormones?

IMO right out of bed 7´1" isn´t impossible, first half inch is gone after a few minutes. Visiting Dr. at morning 7´0.25" is pretty possible, going to 6´11" flat at night too.

I wouldn´t go over 7´1" right out of bed and under 6´11" peak evening.

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The average man loses roughly .5" from morning till night. I have no reason to believe a young healthy Andre would have lost more than twice that amount. I don't know anyone who shrinks .5" minutes after waking up. I'm about 5'10 out of bed, but I'm also a big boned heavy set guy. I don't lose more than .5" from morning till night. I think Andre was anywhere from 6'11.5-7'0.25" out of bed and 6'10.5"-6'11.5" by the evening in his prime. Again, I can't imagine anyone losing .5" in less than an hour much less just a few minutes. If I had to pinpoint his "average daily height", I would say 6'11.25/6'11.5" in his prime (until 1986) and 6'10.5" by the late 80s/early 90s. Pretty much the same as Paul Wight from his prime till now.
dicksock said on 13/Sep/16
Boss said on 12/Sep/16
Andre never claimed he stopped growing in 1970. If so post it.

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I just did post it. Did you even bother clicking on the link? He said that he stopped growing at age 24, which was May 1970. Even if he never was on film saying this, just use common sense man. Who grows past 24? Andre's condition became really apparent in the early 70s. That is when he started to become really big and not just tall. When people with Acromegaly can't grow any taller, they just get bigger and their features become more "distorted". This coincides with his claim that he stopped growing in 1970.
Chaz said on 13/Sep/16
Boss said on 12/Sep/16
Andre never claimed he stopped growing in 1970. If so post it.

he's says 24 that is 1970,end of story,
andre said on 12/Sep/16
There is no way he was 7ft barefoot

hulk hogan was 6ft4 barefoot and andre was 6ft7.5 barefoot and 6ft8.5 with shoes on
Boss said on 12/Sep/16
Andre never claimed he stopped growing in 1970. If so post it.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 12/Sep/16
dicksock said on 11/Sep/16
Andre claimed to stop growing at 24 or 1970. In 1971, he claimed to be 7'0.25" or 214cm. Obviously, he was never above this and was likely less.
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I can buy a straight out of bed morning measurement of about 7' and a 6'11"-6'11.25" evening measurement at the absolute most. Like I've said for years, Andre was between 6'11" and 7' at his tallest. It is pretty obvious.

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Yeah, 6´11"-6´11.5" peak evening.
But I doubt he only lost an inch over the day, I´m 6ft and pre surgery, I lost a full inch over the day. Andre´s back was pretty long and his legs rather short.
Sure it depends on how thick the discs are, but why should they´ve been small with all this extra growth hormones?

IMO right out of bed 7´1" isn´t impossible, first half inch is gone after a few minutes. Visiting Dr. at morning 7´0.25" is pretty possible, going to 6´11" flat at night too.

I wouldn´t go over 7´1" right out of bed and under 6´11" peak evening.
andre said on 12/Sep/16
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see this video from 1992 you can clear see he is no more then 6ft7.2 barefoot
Kunoichi said on 12/Sep/16
Here is Andre with 192cm Jumbo Tsuruta in 1992.

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Chaz said on 12/Sep/16
62B said on 11/Sep/16
Enough already. Andre was over 6'10", but no way over 7' peak. In my opinion dicksock has got Andre pegged about perfect from what I saw. I think its dumb to list peak evening heights. I mean that's like saying this is the shortest he was at his tallest.

it's not dumb to give a Wrestlers evening height because how many wresting bouts take place in the Morning? every show I have been to in the UK and that is 100s over the years started at about 7,30 and End about 10pm and that was with a break in the middle so you could have a beer,

and if you give a morning height it's too high and an evening height is too low,best to give an avarage of the two because that is more than likely a height he would be if you see him in the day walking about.

6'11'' morning 6'10'' evening should be listed as 6'10.5''
62B said on 11/Sep/16
Enough already. Andre was over 6'10", but no way over 7' peak. In my opinion dicksock has got Andre pegged about perfect from what I saw. I think its dumb to list peak evening heights. I mean that's like saying this is the shortest he was at his tallest.
dicksock said on 11/Sep/16
Boss said on 10/Sep/16
Andre billings slowly increased as Andre was still growing in height. Andre was growing in height into the 1970's.

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Andre claimed to stop growing at 24 or 1970. In 1971, he claimed to be 7'0.25" or 214cm. Obviously, he was never above this and was likely less.
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I can buy a straight out of bed morning measurement of about 7' and a 6'11"-6'11.25" evening measurement at the absolute most. Like I've said for years, Andre was between 6'11" and 7' at his tallest. It is pretty obvious.
Chaz said on 11/Sep/16
aaronrius said on 10/Sep/16
people have to realize a couple of things about Andre's European billings in the 60's:

1)Andre was still growing in height.
2) Height given in feet didn't have any meaning, so that 'magic number' of 7 feet wasnt trying to be obtained by promoters. everything was in metric. 2.10m, 2.11m, 2.14m, etc... sometimes promoters would just go by someone else's billing from another town. They didn't bother remeasuring Andre for every event, because 2.10m was plenty tall in that time period to be considered a giant and draw a full gate.
3) did i mention he was still growing? Andre probably stopped growing in height around 74-75, because thats when he started to gain some real girth, and his forehead started to change drastically.

You don't know what you are taking about, in the Uk in 1968 metric was not in use we use feet and inch,even today we use the same, even tho the EU says we should use metric,most people here would not have a clue what 140kg and 208cm,we did not even use pounds when we talk about someones weight we would say he's 22stones, and 6'10'',if I said to someone now I am 110kg 90% of people would ask me what is that in stones, and have no clue it's 17st 4, and in Canada they would use pounds and feet and inch to,

And Andre did not grow much in height,you can tell that from the Acromegalic .features,one that happens you have stoped growing,you look at Robert wadlow there is no sigh of Acromegaly in the face,because he was still growing in height,at the time of he's death,he is what they used to call a Pre-Acromegalic Giant,meaning he was still growning.
aaronrius said on 10/Sep/16
people have to realize a couple of things about Andre's European billings in the 60's:

1)Andre was still growing in height.
2) Height given in feet didn't have any meaning, so that 'magic number' of 7 feet wasnt trying to be obtained by promoters. everything was in metric. 2.10m, 2.11m, 2.14m, etc... sometimes promoters would just go by someone else's billing from another town. They didn't bother remeasuring Andre for every event, because 2.10m was plenty tall in that time period to be considered a giant and draw a full gate.
3) did i mention he was still growing? Andre probably stopped growing in height around 74-75, because thats when he started to gain some real girth, and his forehead started to change drastically.
aaronrius said on 10/Sep/16
JT, your photo analysis sucks, and you always rig everything to make Andre look smaller.. everyone knows it. Andre's head is 13", not 12" like you claim, and Earnie Ladd was a legit 6'9", according to his NFL combine numbers:

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Stop underrating everyone on the planet by a unilateral 2 inches. its f-ing irritating
andre said on 10/Sep/16
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look at this 1992 match at japan andre the giant is lucky if he is 6ft7.5 barefoot
Boss said on 10/Sep/16
Andre billings slowly increased as Andre was still growing in height. Andre was growing in height into the 1970's. Andre was being billed at 2.17m and 2.18m in Japan in 1971. I found that billing in a book that said it was from 1968-69. Giant's commonly grow well into their 20's in height and some even longer. That fact that your trying everything to debunk an actual real height measurement that was aired on BCTV across Canada and the fact that the guy who doubted Andre's height and Haystacks weight wrote a favorable write up the next day in the newspaper because Andre measured a bit over 7'1" and Haystacks weighed 550 pounds. This is the best height story out there about Andre and if we find the footage you will say something like oh that's a fake measuring tape like JT is already trying to say just in case we find do find it lol.
Kunoichi said on 10/Sep/16
62B said on 9/Sep/16

I originally too thought that Duggan only had contact with Andre in the late 80's, but from other Duggan videos, he had apparently worked with Andre in Japan.

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Andre and Duggan worked in japan 1981 .At that time,,it is natural that Duggan had contsct with Andre since Duggan worked WWE.
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RoelC said on 10/Sep/16
Boss said on 8/Sep/16
Well here Andre us billed at 7' in the UK in 1969.
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Here in France 1968-69 at 2.14m.
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One 7ft billing in the UK doesn’t overrule the multiple 6’11” billings and a few 6’10” billings he had in the UK at the time. If you go by the lowest listing, you’re mostly closest to the truth. I’ve never heard of a giant in pro-wrestling who was listed inches below his real height.

That other billing you keep claiming is from 1968, is actually from 1971. Here’s a copy of the full card.
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The match took place on Friday, 12th Of March.
The 12th of March 1968 was on a Tuesday.
The 12th of March 1969 was on a Wednesday
The 12th of March 1971 was on a Friday
RoelC said on 9/Sep/16
Boss said on 7/Sep/16
@ROELC. It is very easy for a 7' to look 6'10" with bad posture. I say Andre was 7' and lost height over his life. I'm so sick of you being ignorant and you are very so I don't care for your opinion. You say biased and I say I'm right and the listing here proves my point. You never posted the original pic you had for years until I posted the one I found so you have your own adjenda. Most people are only going to look at the top of the page so it is a victory over you and your group. At least I site references and stories from real people who spent time with Andre for all my estimates unlike you guys who are scared to quote your Meltzer source here anymore.

I posted that pic of Andre & Wilt before years ago. And even so, it’s not like the pic shed a new light on the pics we already had. The only difference was that it was less cropped. The only reason I posted it again, was to prove your conspiracy theory wrong that all those other pics were deliberately tilted. JT tilted the pic that was posted on the moviestill sharing website, but he only tilted it so it would match the other pics, not to make Andre look shorter as you claimed he did.

Meltzer is hardly ever quoted on this site, except when you’re bashing him as usual. There are more sources for Andre being less than 7ft than just Meltzer’s claim. And I’ve made it perfectly clear numerous times that without any evidence that claim holds little to no value. Same applies to Jody Hamilton’s claim.
dicksock said on 9/Sep/16
JT said on 9/Sep/16
dicksock said on 3/Sep/16
….Closer to the camera? We can see their feet. They are 100% lined up. Of course if Andre was lined up with someone, he's going to look closer to the camera because he's some much bigger and thicker than the other guy. You're claiming Andre didn't have a head on him based on that picture. You seem to be oblivious to the fact that Andre could easily straighten his posture, and that would have a dramatic effect on the picture. If he stood straight, he would easily have a head or more on Flair. Every single pic that shows Andre to have been at least 6'11" is met with excuses. It's all bs. Just look at him next to 6'1" Bob Backlund. What is the excuse there? And once again, Andre was at a footwear disadvantage.

Did you even click on the link? He’s clearly closer to the camera, which is why I bothered to draw the lines to make the analysis idiot-proof. He’s turned sideways and most of his entire body is in front of Flair’s. Andre had no more than a head size on 5’10” guys, so the top of Flair’s head would have been comfortably above the bottom of Andre’s chin.

Backlund was not standing straight with Andre. This has been discussed how many times here now? Click Here And Backlund was not 6’1”. Click Here Click Here Click Here

You’re generally a reasonable guy but before commenting on the next Andre photo, take a few minutes to closely examine the picture, including the footwear, positioning, camera tilt, was Andre on his tip toes, etc.

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Yeah, I am a reasonable guy. That's the difference between you and I. You're full of crap when it comes to Andre. Backlund was 6'1" and he and Andre were lined up. Backlund also had a footwear advantage. You apparently can't handle that obvious reality. Only in your mind is the Backlund pic somehow an invalid comparison. You must be the only one here who knows anything. Again, with the Flair pic, I guess I'm not understanding your point. All I know is that you put a line from the top of Flair's head and claimed that that was proof Andre didn't have a head on him. You totally ignored that fact that Andre could have easily straightened up and been over a head taller than Flair. I did look at the position of their feet. They are lined up, and once again Andre is at a footwear disadvantage.
JT said on 9/Sep/16
Boss said on 4/Sep/16
Here is Jt talking Andre before he read Tributes and became biased toward Andre. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about…..

More BS. I never posted that and have never read anything from Meltzer, who’s no expert on height estimates. He’s the same guy IIRC who claimed Nash and Wight were only an inch apart and that 6’7” Ernie Ladd looked about the same height as Andre backstage when Andre was clearly several inches taller. Meltzer’s 6’93/4” claim is probably close to reality but he’s never provided any documentation to back it up even though I’m sure he’s been requested to do so on multiple occasions.

If Andre was ever measured live on television, it would have been with a rigged measuring tape.

dicksock said on 3/Sep/16
….Closer to the camera? We can see their feet. They are 100% lined up. Of course if Andre was lined up with someone, he's going to look closer to the camera because he's some much bigger and thicker than the other guy. You're claiming Andre didn't have a head on him based on that picture. You seem to be oblivious to the fact that Andre could easily straighten his posture, and that would have a dramatic effect on the picture. If he stood straight, he would easily have a head or more on Flair. Every single pic that shows Andre to have been at least 6'11" is met with excuses. It's all bs. Just look at him next to 6'1" Bob Backlund. What is the excuse there? And once again, Andre was at a footwear disadvantage.

Did you even click on the link? He’s clearly closer to the camera, which is why I bothered to draw the lines to make the analysis idiot-proof. He’s turned sideways and most of his entire body is in front of Flair’s. Andre had no more than a head size on 5’10” guys, so the top of Flair’s head would have been comfortably above the bottom of Andre’s chin.

Backlund was not standing straight with Andre. This has been discussed how many times here now? Click Here And Backlund was not 6’1”. Click Here Click Here Click Here

You’re generally a reasonable guy but before commenting on the next Andre photo, take a few minutes to closely examine the picture, including the footwear, positioning, camera tilt, was Andre on his tip toes, etc.
62B said on 9/Sep/16
Boss said on 6/Sep/16
@62B. Khali might have been taller than Andre in the late 80's when he faced Duggan but Andre and Khali would be pretty close at their peaks.
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I originally too thought that Duggan only had contact with Andre in the late 80's, but from other Duggan videos, he had apparently worked with Andre in Japan. I literally stood toe to toe with Andre in 1988. it was early in the day, late morning, he stretched out tall. 6'11 is the number for me. I've also stood next to a legit 7'2" guy. No way in my opinion Andre could have been over 7' peak. Everything physically about Andre was extreme, so it seems legit that his height loss would be too. The thing for me is though, at age 40 I had lost about 1/4", so being extreme I think Andre at most lost 1" of true height by the time I saw him. Pretty sure Andre was around 40 in 1988.
Johno said on 8/Sep/16
Well, Wilt was Chamberlain was measured at 7'0.5 in 84' and Andre did not look any shorter, certainly not more than an inch. This 7'0 listing looks believable.
Boss said on 8/Sep/16
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Boss said on 8/Sep/16
Andre was starting to travel the world in 1968 so North America is only logical since that is the big time for a wrestler. This is the most information we have about any legitimate Andre measurement. It aired across Canada on TV and the newscaster issues an apology in the newspaper the next day cause Andre actually measured 7'1" and Haystacks weighed 550+ and he didn't believe they would. There are witnesses to the measurement and video footage. I will take this over any photo comparisons any day because it's hard to argue an actual measurement. Andre's posture would be much better for a height measurement than a photo with his head titled down and his always relaxed posture. Also, his 12-13" head and huge upper torso makes him hard to judge accurately.
Boss said on 8/Sep/16
This is the most legit story of an Andre measurement and was even mentioned in a newspaper article the next day where the guy admits he was wrong. There are too many details and we now have to find the footage and newspaper article.
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Boss said on 8/Sep/16
Well here Andre us billed at 7' in the UK in 1969.
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Here in France 1968-69 at 2.14m.
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Jody Hamilton didn't just make this whole thing up. His story is to detailed and Jody seems to be a pretty straight shooter. Also, he clearly states they taped the measurement for the pre show before they taped their own show. So video footage of the measurement does exist and Hamilton was po'd about the Fabing accusation and clearly states that it definitely happened. Andre was getting ready to come to North America so visiting only makes sense. Emily Dupree was wrestling for All-Star wrestling at the time and he was a east coast wrestling promoter.
Chaz said on 8/Sep/16
Me said on 6/Sep/16
The Big Cat tells how he was actually 6'9.75" when he was a young man.

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that would make John Studd about 6'8.75'' lol
Chaz said on 8/Sep/16
mrtguy said on 5/Sep/16
Andre was very STRONG Click Here

not has strong as the Tshirt lol
RoelC said on 8/Sep/16
dicksock said on 5/Sep/16
Once again, obvious bs. According to Andre himself, he was 214cm or 7'0.25" by the time he stopped growing in 1970 by age 24. He was billed in the UK, where he wrestled until October 1969 as 6'11". This was verified by Adrian Street. IF Andre was measured at 7'1.25", it was in 2" heels.

That story of Jody Hamilton doesn’t make sense for several reasons:

1) The timing. Every biography I’ve ever read on Andre, claims Andre’s first appearance in Canada was in 1971. They even advertised it as such when he wrestled his first match in Canada. Click Here

2) Andre’s business manager at the time was Frank Valois, who was affiliated with the Montreal territory. Why would Valois send him over to Vancouver, which was a completely different territory? Valois, Verne Gagne and the Montreal territory are being credited of bringing Andre over to North-America for the first time. Doubtful the Vancouver territory would let that slide, if they brought him over first.

3) Why would Andre do a pre-promotional tour in Canada, yet not a wrestle a single match during his stay there?

4) When Andre made his UK debut in May 1969 they billed him at 6’10”. No way would they bill him at that height if he was really a good deal over 7ft tall. They carefully planned his arrival in the UK and made a big deal of his size. In order to gain interest for Andre across the UK they immediately put him in a televised match against a much smaller opponent to further amplify Andre’s size. They wouldn’t go through all that trouble, yet never once bothered to ask Andre how tall he really was.

If Hamilton claimed that measurement took place in 1971 it would’ve made more sense. Andre did do a pre-promotional tour that year in order to gain interest for his debut match. But in his book Hamilton states it was Rod Fenton who send Andre on a pre-promotional tour. That would place the timeline to January 1968. After that Fenton left the Vancouver-area and sold his share to Gene Kiniski, Sandor Kovacs and Don Owen.
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In the book he also said the measurement took place prior to a tv-show taping. So it looks like the measurement itself wasn’t taped.
Chaz said on 7/Sep/16
Boss said on 5/Sep/16
@dicksock. You are pretty biased yourself there dude. Andre from what I can gather with all the evidence was a little over 7' peak and lost a couple inches over his life due to his condition. It's that simple.

Boss you can't keep saying everyone is biased,because you don't like their posts,dicksock and RoelC are about the most unbiased on here,do you think we don't like Andre? you could not be more wrong,I just don't think he was over 6'10''in the evening,it was he's size all over from the Acromegaly that made Andre, the giant he was,not just he's height.or weight,Just hear the words of Duggan khali was taller,your 7'1'' is way out in space,anything over 6'11'' is unrealistic,too meny people that loved Andre have said he was about 6'10-11'',
Boss said on 7/Sep/16
@ dicksock. Andre was only wearing 1" heels around this time. Jody Hamilton is definitely telling the truth there you can tell by his response to JT.
Boss said on 7/Sep/16
@ROELC. It is very easy for a 7' to look 6'10" with bad posture. I say Andre was 7' and lost height over his life. I'm so sick of you being ignorant and you are very so I don't care for your opinion. You say biased and I say I'm right and the listing here proves my point. You never posted the original pic you had for years until I posted the one I found so you have your own adjenda. Most people are only going to look at the top of the page so it is a victory over you and your group. At least I site references and stories from real people who spent time with Andre for all my estimates unlike you guys who are scared to quote your Meltzer source here anymore.
Me said on 6/Sep/16
The Big Cat tells how he was actually 6'9.75" when he was a young man.

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miko said on 6/Sep/16
Of course Khali was taller than Andre. Andre was never anywhere near 7'1.
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 6/Sep/16
Any wrestler who worked with him, they all describe him 7ft4-5 range
Boss said on 6/Sep/16
@62B. Duggan said probably taller so he didn't know for sure himself. Khali has much better posture most of the time and bigger in ring footwear. Here they are standing next to Bill Andersen.Click Here
Boss said on 6/Sep/16
@62B. Khali might have been taller than Andre in the late 80's when he faced Duggan but Andre and Khali would be pretty close at their peaks.
dicksock said on 5/Sep/16
Boss said on 4/Sep/16
Jody Hamilton and JT from Kayfabe Memories. Hamilton also wrote about the measurement in his book Man Behind The Mask.Click Here

In 1968 in Vancouver, BC. Andre was measured on TV and Haystack Calhoun was weighed, the measurement and the weigh-in was legit. Andre measured 7ft. 1 & 1/4 in. and Calhoun who claimes to weigh 601 lbs. actually weighed 558-I think. I know it was 550-something.

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Once again, obvious bs. According to Andre himself, he was 214cm or 7'0.25" by the time he stopped growing in 1970 by age 24. He was billed in the UK, where he wrestled until October 1969 as 6'11". This was verified by Adrian Street. IF Andre was measured at 7'1.25", it was in 2" heels.
RoelC said on 5/Sep/16
Boss said on 4/Sep/16
@ROELC . Andre is listed 7' here and on the other major height sites that actually try to list the real heights. So why are your estimates not listed on any if these. You are wrong and you've been wrong for a long time. You and JT are just Meltzer fanboys and Big Show marks. Like it's okay for Big Show to lose almost 2" but Andre whose condition was way worse didn't lose any height according to you. Why don't go read your wrestling observer you pay for a little more and Don't say your not a Meltzer mark because you are and have been since the beginning of this. You guys held out on photos of Andre and Wilt and then released the photoshopped versions because Andre looked to tall in them until I brought one of the original photos to this site . That alone to me makes you both biased and sneaky. Give people a chance to make their own decisions. Andre matched up just fine with Wilt, Khali, Shaq who are all 7'1" range.Click Here

You’re the one who claimed that stunt double was 6’7” and now that I’ve proven you wrong on this, you start your usual routine again by calling me biased and a Meltzer fanboy.
And you’ve certainly posted a cropped version of that picture. The original picture was a full body shot, so don’t even try to claim you posted the original picture here.
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I never posted a photoshopped version of Andre & Wilt. My pic was from an original bodybuilding magazine, that got its pic directly from Universal Studios. You got your pic from a moviestill sharing website. So don’t make it sound like I’m the one who posted a photoshopped version of a pic. Your pic was clearly tilted and you made no mention of it, until people called you out on it. So who’s sneaky here.

You calling other people biased is like Donald Trump calling other people hypocrites. No one on this board is more biased than you are. No one! I can write a book about the double standards you apply when it comes to Andre’s height. Evidence that points to a less than 7ft Andre gets flat out ignored by you (like those early height billings), and all evidence that points towards a 7ftplus Andre is accepted without hesitation. Hence why you so gullibly believe the claims of Andre’s nephew, Frenchy Bernard supposedly breaking kayfabe, Andre being measured by his trainer, etc.

And for your info, I’ve never claimed a 2-inch height loss for Big Show. In fact I’ve never even claimed he lost height at all. There’s a difference between height loss and just poor posture. A difference you don’t seem to grasp. No one here is denying Andre had poor posture. That doesn’t mean if he stood straight, he couldn’t have been close to the same height as he was in his prime.

You can keep claiming that Andre’s 7ft listing here is some type of personal victory, but I’m pretty sure none of the evidence that you ever provided to this site contributed to Andre’s listing over here.
mrtguy said on 5/Sep/16
Andre was very STRONG Click Here
Boss said on 5/Sep/16
@dicksock. You are pretty biased yourself there dude. Andre from what I can gather with all the evidence was a little over 7' peak and lost a couple inches over his life due to his condition. It's that simple.
Boss said on 5/Sep/16
Ernie Ladd with good posture looks every bit of 6'9 with Vince in the 1970's.Click Here
Boss said on 5/Sep/16
Here is Backlund with Harley Race.
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Chaz said on 5/Sep/16
Boss said on 4/Sep/16
@ROELC . IMDB Credits Andre with 7' so why didn't you site that. I posted the original not Jt's garbage.

6'10'' is not TJs garbage that is what he was billed at by Dale Martin promotions when he first came to the Uk,and it's also the Height he said he was in the wrestler Magazine,when he was to fight Big Bruno Elrington in the UK,they made a big thing about 6'5'' 20 st Bruno not being so much smaller than the 6'10'' 22st Andre at the time. and he's never looked much taller than that without big heels and hair, if he was 7'1'' in those 2.5'' heels and 3'' hair he would look nere Gonzalaz height to the top of he's hair .
62B said on 5/Sep/16
Boss, go to 1:38 in this video Click Here Duggan says Khali was taller than Andre
Kunoichi said on 5/Sep/16
With 6'4" Jumbo Tsuruta
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dicksock said on 4/Sep/16
Boss said on 4/Sep/16
@ROELC . IMDB Credits Andre with 7' so why didn't you site that. I posted the original not Jt's garbage.

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You're just as biased as JT, if not more so. That stunt double's stance is so wide it's ridiculous. IMDB crediting Andre with 7' means nothing. You're comparing apples and oranges. Just another case of stupid logic. A stunt double doesn't have some bs kayfabe height that is way beyond his actual height. It wouldn't surprise me if IMDB is just going off of what this site says.
Boss said on 4/Sep/16
Jody Hamilton and JT from Kayfabe Memories. Hamilton also wrote about the measurement in his book Man Behind The Mask.Click Here

In 1968 in Vancouver, BC. Andre was measured on TV and Haystack Calhoun was weighed, the measurement and the weigh-in was legit. Andre measured 7ft. 1 & 1/4 in. and Calhoun who claimes to weigh 601 lbs. actually weighed 558-I think. I know it was 550-something.

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I have absolutley no reason to doubt that Mr. Hamilton saw what he saw, or is trying to "'fabe us".

I'm just wondering about the time-line....
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I don't have to "FABE" you as you put it, you do that to yourself. In case you haven't heard Kay-Fabe in wrestling died about 15 yrs. ago. It remains alive and well in other pro-sports however. When I attempt to answer questions I do it with the purpose in mind of being as accurate as I can, but when we talking well over 35 yrs, ago I may not have the dates exact, but if I tell you something happened it DAMN well happened and I remember it well or I don't mention it. The TV station that carried our wrestling show had coverage all over Canada, and Andre, who had not started wrestling there yet was doing advance publitity and a commentator on that station didn't believe he was that big or Calhoun weighed that much, so to prove him wrong, they taped a segment for his show pryor to taping our wrestling show. If you knew the commentator, who was always knocking wrestling you would know it was legit.
travlr - March 18th, 2004 18:27 GMT


Excellent!

Well, to add some to Mr. Hamilton's notes, the TV show was carried via most of the CTV Network stations throughout Canada (although not by the network itself, which was a little strange). The announcer in question might have been Ron Morrier, who was brought in by Gene Kiniski. Ron worked for Vancouver All-Star for over 20 years, as well as working at BCTV in other capacities. Big Thunder never told Ron what was going to be happening, so he was always surprised, and showed it. He was prettymuch loved by the local/regular workers in the promotion, and the fans, but was less well-recieved by those who were coming in for just a few spot shows or short programs. There are some who think that if Morrier didn't like you, he wouldn't put you over on the tube.

For those interested in reading more about Ron Morrier, as much a part of BC and Washington State wrestling as Gordon Solie was for Florida and Georgia, please check out: Click Here (Ron Morrier)

And given clawmaster's note about the dates, it certainly sounds like it had to be 1968 (maybe very early 1969? Nah, probably not....)

However, Ron would never have knocked wrestling on any of his other on-air jobs, so it has to be another reporter/anchorman/commentor with the channel. So we'll grab a couple of hte All-Star gang in their Forum and see if we can't get a name attached.....

BTW, in case nobody else has done so yet: On behalf of the Moderators, posters and fans, Welcome to The Board, Mr. Hamilton -- Many of us can't wait to hear more of your particular "Kayfabe Memories".
Boss said on 4/Sep/16
Here is Jt talking Andre before he read Tributes and became biased toward Andre. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

travlr June 24th, 2005 10:03 GMT


Andre, when he wsa starting in North America (primarily Montreal) was likely close on to that 7' height. There is a bit of story from his first trip to Vancouver wherehe was supposedly weighed and measured at the BCTV studios -- not on-air, but due to some politics going on (some say that Ron Morrier had a hand in it). He did, at that time, measure at just a bit over 7-foot supposedly. This would have been late '71 or thereabouts. By the time Andre had left Frank Valois' management and Vince Sr took overaround '75, there was already a change in Andre physically (extra weight, more of a lean when he stood, simple aging compressing the spine, etc.)

So by the time the majority of wrestling fans got to know Andre, that 7' height may not have been true. It certainly wasn't by the 1980s. A loss of 2 full inches, though? Not impossible, given the medical history.



travlr February 23rd, 2004 09:34


Important point when loking at pictures of wrestlers and comparing heights:

Unless they are actually standing "side-by-each", a camera can give a false sense of perspective. A little bit of an angle can give the impression of an inch or two difference.

Having seen Andre wrestle at his debut in Toronto (1971), and seeing how he towered over Lee Henning -- who was not a short man; he was a good 6' with no problem -- I can easily believe that Andre was 7' or a bit over. But as has also been mentioned, you have to add 2 to 3 inches for that big mop of hair he had then. He was also much leaner than what most people saw in 1984-'87; and this will give the impression of greater height, as well.

Completely unscientific, I would estimate his real height during his best years as being between 6'10 and 7'. Rationale: Don Leo Jonathan has been noted as being either a legit 6'5' or 6'6" in the two sources I have, and Andre looked to be a good head taller, depending on picture and the angle thereof. Add another 2 inches for the hair and you have.......?
Boss said on 4/Sep/16
Backlund and Harley Race.
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Backlund appears talker than Vince in the 1970's.
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Boss said on 4/Sep/16
Backlund and Harley Race.
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Backlund appears talker than Vince in the 1970's.
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RoelC said on 4/Sep/16
Boss said on 4/Sep/16
@ROELC . IMDB Credits Andre with 7' so why didn't you site that. I posted the original not Jt's garbage.

I cited Imdb, because it was the only source I could find for Terry Richard's height. Maybe you can show me where you got the 6'7" listing from, that you claimed Andre's stunt double was.
Boss said on 4/Sep/16
@ROELC . Andre is listed 7' here and on the other major height sites that actually try to list the real heights. So why are your estimates not listed on any if these. You are wrong and you've been wrong for a long time. You and JT are just Meltzer fanboys and Big Show marks. Like it's okay for Big Show to lose almost 2" but Andre whose condition was way worse didn't lose any height according to you. Why don't go read your wrestling observer you pay for a little more and Don't say your not a Meltzer mark because you are and have been since the beginning of this. You guys held out on photos of Andre and Wilt and then released the photoshopped versions because Andre looked to tall in them until I brought one of the original photos to this site . That alone to me makes you both biased and sneaky. Give people a chance to make their own decisions. Andre matched up just fine with Wilt, Khali, Shaq who are all 7'1" range.Click Here
Boss said on 4/Sep/16
@ROELC . IMDB Credits Andre with 7' so why didn't you site that. I posted the original not Jt's garbage.
Me said on 4/Sep/16
Andre laying down for his tailor in 1" shoes to measure him 1972?? Along with Andre standing Barefoot with perfect posture on that scale seem to be very good pics to use to see how far over 7' Andre was. Any takers??
RoelC said on 4/Sep/16
Boss said on 2/Sep/16
Here is Andre with his 6'7" stunt double in the same footwear.
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Except that stunt double isn't 6'7"! Plus if you posted the uncropped picture one could see that the stunt double has a much wider stance than Andre and the ground they're standing on certainly isn't level.

According to Cary Elwes, Andre's stunt double in The Princess Bride was famous British stuntman Terry Richards. He did a lot of stunt work in movies like Indiana Jones, Willow, Total Recall and several James Bond movies. Imdb credits Terry Richards with a height of 6'5".

Terry also did some acting, and in most of his parts he was either a thug or a henchman. His most famous role is probably the one where he played an Arab swordsman in Raiders of the Lost Ark. He also had a small part in Tomorrow Never Dies and a guest role on the tv-show Zorro.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 3/Sep/16
Boss said on 2/Sep/16
Here is a new shot of Andre and 6'1" Bob Backlund from 1978


Andre is closer to 7ft than 6´11" next to Bob, nothing to argue about position, cameraangle. Bob has at least 0.5" footwearadvantage
dicksock said on 3/Sep/16
T said on 2/Sep/16
dicksock said on 1/Sep/16
….Here is a good pic of Andre with 5'11" prime Ric Flair from the mid 70s:
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There’s about a 2 degree camera tilt in Andre’s favor and he’s closer to the camera. Here’s the photo with the tilt corrected. Click Here To see if there’s a camera tilt, it’s good if there is a permanent object in between two people that should be vertical (like the corner of a wall here, the edge of a door, the edge of a cinder block, the edge of a building if outdoors, etc).

Andre’s still less than a head size taller despite this so it’s not going to get any better if Flair moves closer to the camera. Click Here


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Closer to the camera? We can see their feet. They are 100% lined up. Of course if Andre was lined up with someone, he's going to look closer to the camera because he's some much bigger and thicker than the other guy. You're claiming Andre didn't have a head on him based on that picture. You seem to be oblivious to the fact that Andre could easily straighten his posture, and that would have a dramatic effect on the picture. If he stood straight, he would easily have a head or more on Flair. Every single pic that shows Andre to have been at least 6'11" is met with excuses. It's all bs. Just look at him next to 6'1" Bob Backlund. What is the excuse there? And once again, Andre was at a footwear disadvantage.
Telamonas said on 2/Sep/16
Another interesting page about Andre:
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Boss said on 2/Sep/16
Here is Andre with his 6'7" stunt double in the same footwear.
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Boss said on 2/Sep/16
Here is a new shot of Andre and 6'1" Bob Backlund from 1978. Andre has over a foot on Backlund. Backlund has a clear footwear advantage over Andre. Backlund's 6'1" listing came from NCAA. Backlund was at his peak in 1978.
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JT said on 2/Sep/16
dicksock said on 1/Sep/16
….Here is a good pic of Andre with 5'11" prime Ric Flair from the mid 70s:
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There’s about a 2 degree camera tilt in Andre’s favor and he’s closer to the camera. Here’s the photo with the tilt corrected. Click Here To see if there’s a camera tilt, it’s good if there is a permanent object in between two people that should be vertical (like the corner of a wall here, the edge of a door, the edge of a cinder block, the edge of a building if outdoors, etc).

Andre’s still less than a head size taller despite this so it’s not going to get any better if Flair moves closer to the camera. Click Here

Boss said on 31/Aug/16
Speaking of Frankenstein Universal. Frankenstein is 6'9" in his elevator boots here with Andre. Andre in 1" boots and Andre is titling his head down. Easily 7' here.
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There’s no set height for Frankenstein. Boris Karloff was around 6’3” or 6’4” at most in his boots. That Frankenstein is about how John Studd would have measured up to Andre there if both had comparable footwear.
Boss said on 2/Sep/16
Ric Flair footwear is at least 2x Andre's footwear. Andre is not even close to standing straight and is still over 1' taller than Flair.
62B said on 2/Sep/16
Boss said on 1/Sep/16
Andre being measured.
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Got to be honest. I really don't think Andre was ever over 7' at any point in his life. I've done the pixel counting thing with several pictures and get mixed results. If I had to choose between 7'05" or 6'11.5", I'd go with 6'11.5"
dicksock said on 1/Sep/16
JT said on 31/Aug/16
dicksock said on 30/Aug/16
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Yes, those heels gave Andre about 1" of boost. They definitely have a smaller heel than Big Show's boots in WCW and WWE.

That’s more than an inch Click Here especially since a size 18 or more dress shoe would probably be near 15 inches long (I have a size 15 New Balance running shoe that’s around 13.75” long).

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It's still less than most of Big Show's boots. I don't see him getting more from those than he would have from the average sneaker.

Here is a good pic of Andre with 5'11" prime Ric Flair from the mid 70s:
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JT or Heightcrazyred, do your ruler test on this pic. It's a full body shot, Andre is not his tip toes, footwear is similar, pic doesn't look tilted, and we pretty much know Flair was around 5'11". Even with less than perfect posture, to say the least, Andre appears at least a foot taller. I think pics like this are far more valuable than trying to trying to match Andre up to some brick wall he's standing in front of.
Boss said on 1/Sep/16
Andre being measured.
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Boss said on 31/Aug/16
Speaking of Frankenstein Universal. Frankenstein is 6'9" in his elevator boots here with Andre. Andre in 1" boots and Andre is titling his head down. Easily 7' here.
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dicksock said on 31/Aug/16
iconjj said on 30/Aug/16
Guys you might wanna check out the other photo Chris has on his Andre page of The Giant holding up a girl in a hallway... hate to say it guys but the 8" blocks he's standing beside of put him right at 6'10 or a smidgen over....go research the photo and be the judge.

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I will always take the simple straight ahead shots to determine height over pics like that one. Again, I maintain that Andre was in the 6'11" range at his tallest. Perhaps, he was 6'11.5" out of bed and 6'10.5" at night or something like that? I definitely don't think his listing on this site should ever go below 6'11".
Chaz said on 31/Aug/16
JT said on 31/Aug/16from the same photo shoot as the ones with Shoemaker Click Here Frankenstein’s monster (at Universal) and at Disneyland and at the same time Andre made his appearance on the Tonight Show (Joey Bishop guest hosting).

I have just seen the heels on Shoemakers boot,look how low they are? I will have to down grade him in boots to 4'11.5'' this is another nail in the 7' Andre coffin,
JT said on 31/Aug/16
dicksock said on 30/Aug/16
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Yes, those heels gave Andre about 1" of boost. They definitely have a smaller heel than Big Show's boots in WCW and WWE.

That’s more than an inch Click Here especially since a size 18 or more dress shoe would probably be near 15 inches long (I have a size 15 New Balance running shoe that’s around 13.75” long).
Chaz said on 31/Aug/16
That is why I worked out Andre's total height in the Andre/Shoemaker photo with hair and shoes,because that way we don't need to know the heel size,and it still remains 7'1'' so unless he's only getting 1' from the hair and shoes,we can forget the 7' height.and the hair looks more than 1'' and now we know the shoes are about 1-1.25''.
Boss said on 31/Aug/16
Jt's line isn't even to top of Andre's head which only comes out at around 9" in that comparison yet it is 13" range hereClick Here. We can all play the brick wall game.
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Here Andre is barefoot and Vince in sandals.
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JT said on 31/Aug/16
1972 Click Here
1974 at Universal Studios in LA Click Here The second “person” Andre has been photographed with who’s taller than him….. This is probably from the same photo shoot as the ones with Shoemaker Click Here Frankenstein’s monster (at Universal) and at Disneyland and at the same time Andre made his appearance on the Tonight Show (Joey Bishop guest hosting).
Capt. Nobody said on 30/Aug/16
RoelC said on 30/Aug/16
JT said on 23/Aug/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 21/Aug/16
….JT just proved that Andre was in normal dressshoe-like heel so don´t claim he was in his 2"+ monster-cowboyboots. So no full 3" for Kiel.

Wrong again They are larger than the boots Big Show wore in WCW (the ones you have pegged at 1.75” to 2”). Click Here but not as large as some he wore later on. Or was Andre really 6’4”ish??

Chris just posted this pic on his Andre the Giant facebook page and it gives the best view on Andre's shoes with Willie Shoemaker. Click Here
Whether or not they are cowboy boots is irrelevant. The heel on the shoes/boots is clearly no more than that of a dress shoe. Maybe 1-1.25" tops.


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Excellent shot. This is a rare shot of Andre standing fairly straight.
iconjj said on 30/Aug/16
Guys you might wanna check out the other photo Chris has on his Andre page of The Giant holding up a girl in a hallway... hate to say it guys but the 8" blocks he's standing beside of put him right at 6'10 or a smidgen over....go research the photo and be the judge.
dicksock said on 30/Aug/16
RoelC said on 30/Aug/16
JT said on 23/Aug/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 21/Aug/16
….JT just proved that Andre was in normal dressshoe-like heel so don´t claim he was in his 2"+ monster-cowboyboots. So no full 3" for Kiel.

Wrong again They are larger than the boots Big Show wore in WCW (the ones you have pegged at 1.75” to 2”). Click Here but not as large as some he wore later on. Or was Andre really 6’4”ish??

Chris just posted this pic on his Andre the Giant facebook page and it gives the best view on Andre's shoes with Willie Shoemaker. Click Here
Whether or not they are cowboy boots is irrelevant. The heel on the shoes/boots is clearly no more than that of a dress shoe. Maybe 1-1.25" tops.

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Yes, those heels gave Andre about 1" of boost. They definitely have a smaller heel than Big Show's boots in WCW and WWE.
JT said on 30/Aug/16
icksock said on 25/Aug/16
JT said on 25/Aug/16
dicksock said on 24/Aug/16
….Wow, it must be against your religion to admit Andre was in the 6'11" range or something. In what way is Andre on his toes or leaning towards the camera? They are both just standing next to each other....

No, I always look at photos carefully before jumping to conclusions Click Here

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I must be blind or something because I am not seeing Andre on his tip toes. He may be very slightly elevated on one foot, but that would barely make a difference especially when David actually did have a very small footwear advantage.

You would expect Andre to be on his tip toes with David Von Erich since Von Erich was a pretty tall guy. Andre was effectively on his tip toes with Wilt given his cowboy boots. Andre’s also leaning towards the camera, which is evident considering how small Von Erich’s head is Click Here Not sure how tall Von Erich really was since there are not a lot of photos of him out there. I’d guess at least 6’5”.

That's a clearer shot, RoelC, but with at least a size 18 shoe, I imagine Andre’s heels are around 1.25”, if not more, even though they do look pretty modest there.
62B said on 30/Aug/16
In the Von Erich picture Andre is not purposely standing on his tip toes to look taller. He is slightly lifting one foot which is not likely going to have an affect on his height. If he does stand on his toes so often as some suggest, then lets see some of those pictures.
RoelC said on 30/Aug/16
JT said on 23/Aug/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 21/Aug/16
….JT just proved that Andre was in normal dressshoe-like heel so don´t claim he was in his 2"+ monster-cowboyboots. So no full 3" for Kiel.

Wrong again They are larger than the boots Big Show wore in WCW (the ones you have pegged at 1.75” to 2”). Click Here but not as large as some he wore later on. Or was Andre really 6’4”ish??

Chris just posted this pic on his Andre the Giant facebook page and it gives the best view on Andre's shoes with Willie Shoemaker. Click Here
Whether or not they are cowboy boots is irrelevant. The heel on the shoes/boots is clearly no more than that of a dress shoe. Maybe 1-1.25" tops.
Capt. Nobody said on 29/Aug/16
Hey, for all I know Andre was 6'10", but if that's the case then you have downgrade a whole bunch of other people as a result.

I've been thinking about a couple of images/videos posted on here in the past and I am interested if any of the mathematicians can work a little magic with these shots.

First is a couple of stills of Andre coming out of the doorway at MSG:

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They aren't the best shots because Andre is kind of hunched and walking, but he clearly had to duck to get through the door way. How tall is that doorway? I figure the cinder blocks can be used as a frame of reference.

This other shot is an interesting one because it vividly shows Andre in relation to both the ceiling and the floor. If you notice, his fro appears to be touching the ceiling, so I would think if you estimated the height of the ceiling via the blocks in the wall you might have close to a range in height. It's not a perfect shot either since he's not standing his tallest and you have to guess where his head was inside that afro in relation to the ceiling but it might yield something worth debating.

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Boss said on 29/Aug/16
@Chaz. They used two different tapes together for the measurement and it wasn't done by carpenters. Rob even has said it was a flawed measurement and it was at night so what are you talking about. You are wrong. Andre is listed 7' here for a reason because that was his average daily height.
Boss said on 29/Aug/16
@dicksock. You obviously only see what you want to see if you think Hogan's yellow boots were only .25" thicker than Andre's red boots. It's more .75"-1" difference there and that's if Hulk doesn't have lifts inside his boots as the story goes.
Boss said on 29/Aug/16
@dicksock. He said he could only stand around 6'9" because of spine and posture issues in 1993. He didn't say he was 6'9".
Chaz said on 28/Aug/16
Boss said on 27/Aug/16
Here the photo is clearly titled in Wilt's favor yet Andre in cowboy boots still comes out taller than Wilt in boots of his own. So no more excuses about the original photo.
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Boss you are going over the same old thing,Andre is near the camara in all the photos,show them to a photographer like I did and he will tell with one look,

and you don't need a dr to measure someones height,you are better with a carpenter that 'measures things 100s times a day,he can't afford to get it wrong, and the 7'1.1'' was long befor the 7'.5'' and if anything the laying down one would be taller than he was at the time standing up,your always taller laying down, and we have no clue what time of day those Wilt/Andre photos were taken.

dicksock said on 25/Aug/16
I must be blind or something because I am not seeing Andre on his tip toes. He may be very slightly elevated on one foot, but that would barely make a difference especially when David actually did have a very small footwear advantage.

Yes you must be, he's up on he's toes,he does it too meny times for it to be a coincidence,
dicksock said on 28/Aug/16
I'll say it again, Andre was in the 7'1" range in his cowboy boots and the 6'11" range barefoot. Boss, you can post as many pics of Hogan's boots as you want, but I have eyes. I can see there was no inch of footwear advantage in the Andre/Hogan match from 1980. I doubt there was even .25". Regarding him going from 7'0.5" to 6'9", I don't believe that. Even in the late 80s/early 90s he looked around 6'11" if he stood straight. Just look at him next to 6' Haku when they teamed together. Here is a photo that many may have never seen:
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It's Andre from right at the end of his life. While he does look in terrible condition, he was still at least 9" taller than 6'1"-6'2" Bigelow, and Bigelow had a footwear advantage and was closer to the camera. It does look like their is a tilt in Andre's favor, but even so, he still looked a bare minimum of 6'10" there and possibly 6'11".

Compare that to how Andre looked next to 6'2" Tony Atlas ten years earlier:
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He was no more than 9" (maybe 9.5") taller than 6'2" Tony Atlas and that is about as fair of a comparison as you can get. There is no tilt, no footwear issues, Andre was only 36, he was standing with decent posture, and neither man was in front of the other. I'll take footage like this over the Wilt/Andre pics any day. There are just far less variables to consider.
Boss said on 27/Aug/16
Here the photo is clearly titled in Wilt's favor yet Andre in cowboy boots still comes out taller than Wilt in boots of his own. So no more excuses about the original photo.
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With tilt fixed.Click Here

Wilt would be at least 7'1.5"-7'2" range in those boots and Arnold at least 6'2.5" in his boots if we are going by Wilt 7'1" measurement that was done by a doctor with special tools for the measurement not the flawed nighttime measurements with two measuring tapes which makes too much room for error and that would be using night measurement for Wilt which isn't what we use. Arnold was measured by Vince at 6'1.5" who said Arnold might have been 6'2" earlier in the day because people shrink throughout the day. Click Here These are daytime photos so Andre should really be 7'2.5" range there in cowboy boots.
Boss said on 27/Aug/16
Well here is the Frenchy Bernard story. People can make their own conclusions but to me he seems to be telling the truth based on what I know about Andre and Frenchy. He doesn't even know anything about Frenchy even mistakens him for a Cajun man which he looked a bit like but yet he describes Frenchy to a tee.

Ronnie Russell says on 27/Feb/09 OK.....i will be posting a youtube video of the audio of the conversation i talk about below some time in the near future when i have a way to get the mini-tape recorder converted to an *.mp3

I stopped by Andre's ranch in Ellerby, NC, which is now run by some little cajun man named Bernard who has a terrible accent and spits when he talks...

Anyways, he was very nice and hospitible and loves having people visit the ranch and showing them the "Andre Archives" as it were. Some of the artifacts he has there are incredible. He travelled with Andre from the late sixties/early seventies and then again towards the end of his career when he was having a lot of mobility problems. He said at Andre's peak in his youth, when he didn't have any posture problems, he was 7'0.5", measured in japan when he was 22, and that he was around 6'9" at the time of death, because he couldnt stand any taller because of spinal curvature. He also told me that because of his medical condition causing a constant secretion of growth hormone, his bones and organs continued to grow in density and size straight through to the time of his death, so not only did he weigh alot from his fat, but his bones weighed more and his organs did as well.
Boss said on 27/Aug/16
Here are several pairs of Hulk's ring worn 1980's boots. They are all much thicker than Andre's red boots.
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Boss said on 27/Aug/16
Here is another pair of Hulk Hogan's boots from the 1980's. The souls are much thicker than Andre's red boots.
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Boss said on 27/Aug/16
Here are Andre's red boots which he was wearing in 1980 with Hulk.
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Boss said on 27/Aug/16
Also, Hogan was said to wear internal lifts when he started with Vince Sr. It was in the book Sex Lies and Headlocks.Click Here
Boss said on 27/Aug/16
Here are Hogan's boots from 1980's. Andre was wearing his red thin soled boots so definitely a footwear advantage for Hogan.
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dicksock said on 25/Aug/16
JT said on 25/Aug/16
dicksock said on 24/Aug/16
….Wow, it must be against your religion to admit Andre was in the 6'11" range or something. In what way is Andre on his toes or leaning towards the camera? They are both just standing next to each other....

No, I always look at photos carefully before jumping to conclusions Click Here

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I must be blind or something because I am not seeing Andre on his tip toes. He may be very slightly elevated on one foot, but that would barely make a difference especially when David actually did have a very small footwear advantage.
Boss said on 25/Aug/16
@dicksock. I used Arnold as the reference in the comparisons and that's how they came out. Not saying Andre was taller barefoot but he was taller in cowboy boots as opposed to their footwear. So very close in height. Andre was at least 2.14m peak. He looked bigger in 1972 on than he did in 1971.
dicksock said on 25/Aug/16
Boss said on 25/Aug/16
Here Andre and Hulk from 1980. Hulk has around a 1" advantage in footwear. Andre could still raise his head to gain a little more height here.
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Here are a pair of Hulk Hogan's boots from the 1980's.
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Here are Andre's boots from 1980 with Hulk Hogan.
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Would you stop spreading this bs? Hogan did not have a 1" footwear advantage or any advantage. That is absurd. The link you provided doesn't even show Hogan's boots from that match. It's just like the Frenchy Bernard rumor that you push as fact or the Wilt/Andre pic that is obviously tilted in favor of Andre. Here is the actual match:
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Anyone see an inch of footwear advantage for Hogan? Perhaps Hogan had some internal lift throughout the 80s. I cannot say one way or another. But there is little, if any, visible advantage.
Boss said on 25/Aug/16
@dicksock sorry that was in response to Jt's comments.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 25/Aug/16
JT said on 23/Aug/16
dicksock said on 21/Aug/16
I will once again post the picture of Andre with 6'5"-6'6" David Von Erich:
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Andre’s on his toes and leaning towards the camera.

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Excuses over excuses, Andre wasn´t on his toes there, he has pretty giant feet and is standing more relaxed... tiptoes... whats the next excuse?
Why should he go on his toes and stand with a relaxed upperbody/neck??? Pure nonsens.
If Andre want to look taller there he would just stretch out to a more straight position, he doesn´t need to as he dwarfs this 6´5"-6´5.5" guy with relaxed posture.



Click Here Mulligan was 6´5"-6´5.5" barefoot and 6´6.5"-6´7" in his big soled boots there,
Andre gains only a few mm from his thin soled boots and could stand easily taller.


No less than 6´11" here wich fits easy with the von Erich pic.
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Zed said on 25/Aug/16
JT, how do you think a peak Big Show would look next to Kingma?? Thank you
JT said on 25/Aug/16
dicksock said on 24/Aug/16
….Wow, it must be against your religion to admit Andre was in the 6'11" range or something. In what way is Andre on his toes or leaning towards the camera? They are both just standing next to each other....

No, I always look at photos carefully before jumping to conclusions Click Here
Boss said on 25/Aug/16
Here Andre and Hulk from 1980. Hulk has around a 1" advantage in footwear. Andre could still raise his head to gain a little more height here.
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Here are a pair of Hulk Hogan's boots from the 1980's.
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Here are Andre's boots from 1980 with Hulk Hogan.
Click Here
dicksock said on 25/Aug/16
Boss said on 24/Aug/16
dicksock said on 21/Aug/16
I will once again post the picture of Andre with 6'5"-6'6" David Von Erich:
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Andre’s on his toes and leaning towards the camera. Von Erich was pretty tall but if that pic accurately represents their respective heights, he’s shorter than both 6’5” Blackjack Mulligan and Hulk Hogan.

What about the fact that David has thicker boots or the fact that Andre's head is titled down and we know how much height he can lose by titling his head down. Where are you seeing Andre on his toes cause Andre's feet are planted on the floor. With that said now you will just try to downgrade David's height because Andre comes out too tall to fit your story. #predictable

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I never made those comments about Andre standing on his tip toes in that pic. I said David was probably close to 6'6" and Andre was about 6" taller. Neither man in that pic has an advantage one way or another. David does not have any real footwear advantage, nobody is leaning, or losing height because of posture, or anything like that. Again, this pic shows Andre to be about 7' max, which is what he was. Also, none of us know what time of day this picture was taken in. I would assume sometime in the afternoon.
dicksock said on 25/Aug/16
Boss said on 24/Aug/16
Here Andre, Wilt, Arnold & Shaq and Arnold. Wilt had an inch on a peak Shaq. Arnold was past peak with Shaq. Andre and Shaq have similar posture and Andre has footwear advantage.
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The scaling on the Arnold/Shaq pic is not the same as the Wilt/Andre/Arnold one. The camera angles and distance are different. If you really want to compare Shaq and Andre, compare how they stacked up next to Hogan. And no Hogan had not shrunk by 1994. That's impossible considering he had no injuries, was super lean, and was only 40/41. Anybody can tell Shaq and Wilt were both taller than Andre barefoot. No rational person could possibly debate that.
Danimal said on 25/Aug/16
JT said on 23/Aug/16

Andre’s on his toes and leaning towards the camera. Von Erich was pretty tall but if that pic accurately represents their respective heights, he’s shorter than both 6’5” Blackjack Mulligan and Hulk Hogan.

Hogan was taller than Hillbilly Jim and Jake the Snake Roberts (both 6'5" men).
Boss said on 25/Aug/16
Andre in cowboy boots was clearly taller than Shaq in his 1.5" sneakers standing next to Wilt or Arnold.
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dicksock said on 24/Aug/16
JT said on 23/Aug/16
dicksock said on 21/Aug/16
I will once again post the picture of Andre with 6'5"-6'6" David Von Erich:
Click Here

Andre’s on his toes and leaning towards the camera. Von Erich was pretty tall but if that pic accurately represents their respective heights, he’s shorter than both 6’5” Blackjack Mulligan and Hulk Hogan.

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Wow, it must be against your religion to admit Andre was in the 6'11" range or something. In what way is Andre on his toes or leaning towards the camera? They are both just standing next to each other. David was probably near 6'6" and could look his listed 6'7". I've seen Hogan stack up the same way next to Andre.
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If you look at them in the intro of the match, Andre was clearly about 6" taller than Hogan in equal footwear. Hogan was in the 6'5" range and Andre was in the 6'11" range. Simple. And no I don't think Andre lost any height by that point. He never looked taller than him than he did there.
Boss said on 24/Aug/16
Captain done the best Andre & Kiel comparison with them standing in same position with similar posture in the same spot on Letterman.
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Boss said on 24/Aug/16
Here Andre, Wilt, Arnold & Shaq and Arnold. Wilt had an inch on a peak Shaq. Arnold was past peak with Shaq. Andre and Shaq have similar posture and Andre has footwear advantage.
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Boss said on 24/Aug/16
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JT said on 24/Aug/16
Danimal said on 23/Aug/16
JT, you and I go way back on this site (almost to the beginning). I remember many years ago you were actually opened to the idea of Andre having once stood as high as 6'11". Do you still think that he might have stood as high as 6'11", or are you steadfast in your conviction that he never stood above 6'10" at any point in his lengthy career?

You can’t rule it out, especially for someone so tall to begin with. However, since I first began posting here, there have been so many new photos and videos of Andre out there, including the photos with Wilt and with his 5'11" aunt.. Knowing his tendency to wear custom-made cowboy boots, stand on his tip toes, the afro effect, his relatively normal head length from the eyes up ,seeing how b-ball players measure up to people of the same height that andre has stood next to, etc., a ~6’10” estimate looks more likely IMO.
Chaz said on 24/Aug/16
Logic said on 22/Aug/16 And now here is a photo of Danny Miller standing with Muhammad Ali and Rocky Marciano


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To me, Danny looks like he would be at least 6' tall in that photo with Ali.

That is a good photo to show what being closer to the camara and side on makes to height. Marciano was only about 5'10.25'' he should look over 4'' shorter than 6' 2.5'' Ali but because he's side on and near the camara,(like Andre in the wilt photo)and Ali is right over from the camara, there is not 2'' in it.
Boss said on 24/Aug/16
dicksock said on 21/Aug/16
I will once again post the picture of Andre with 6'5"-6'6" David Von Erich:
Click Here

Andre’s on his toes and leaning towards the camera. Von Erich was pretty tall but if that pic accurately represents their respective heights, he’s shorter than both 6’5” Blackjack Mulligan and Hulk Hogan.

What about the fact that David has thicker boots or the fact that Andre's head is titled down and we know how much height he can lose by titling his head down. Where are you seeing Andre on his toes cause Andre's feet are planted on the floor. With that said now you will just try to downgrade David's height because Andre comes out too tall to fit your story. #predictable
Boss said on 24/Aug/16
@Dicksock. That pic has already been discussed here and Andre is not on his toes that's just JT for Andre looks 7' there. David has a footwear advantage and Andre's head is titled down. Andre definitely looks 7' with David Von Eric. Also, David looks more 6'6" than 6'5" he was really tall.
Boss said on 24/Aug/16
@Logic. Danny Miller has a footwear advantage and Andre is titling his head down so 12+ inches for Andre there.
Boss said on 24/Aug/16
@Chaz. Haystacks was a monster and a giant of a man. 6'7.5"-6'8" at his peak is my guess.
Danimal said on 23/Aug/16
JT, you and I go way back on this site (almost to the beginning). I remember many years ago you were actually opened to the idea of Andre having once stood as high as 6'11". Do you still think that he might have stood as high as 6'11", or are you steadfast in your conviction that he never stood above 6'10" at any point in his lengthy career?
JT said on 23/Aug/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 21/Aug/16
….JT just proved that Andre was in normal dressshoe-like heel so don´t claim he was in his 2"+ monster-cowboyboots. So no full 3" for Kiel.

Wrong again They are larger than the boots Big Show wore in WCW (the ones you have pegged at 1.75” to 2”). Click Here but not as large as some he wore later on. Or was Andre really 6’4”ish??


dicksock said on 21/Aug/16
I will once again post the picture of Andre with 6'5"-6'6" David Von Erich:
Click Here

Andre’s on his toes and leaning towards the camera. Von Erich was pretty tall but if that pic accurately represents their respective heights, he’s shorter than both 6’5” Blackjack Mulligan and Hulk Hogan.
Boss said on 22/Aug/16
Andre barefoot with Bret Hart and Kevin Nash both in shoes.
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Here Red eliminates the footwear advantage for Nash.
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Chaz said on 22/Aug/16
Boss said on the 22/Aug/ 16 ,well here is Haystacks the same guy,

Yes the only problem you have is Andre is nera the camara and the guy is younger,In the Haystacks photo the guy is older and in front, so you need to add 1" to a old Haystacks because it was taken in the 1990s.

and yes Daddy,Nagasaki,St Clair,Regal,Wanz,Steel were all about the same height in the 6'1-2'' range Click Here and as you can see he comes Under about 0.75" under Daddys nose,from the tip of my nose to the top of my head is 6'' and Kendo and Daddy were the same height,and I have never said Haystacks was 6'9'' I said to me he looked 6'7-8'' and you better hope he was was at least 6'7'' or your hope of a 7'1'' Andre is right out of the water.because your line makes Haystacks 2" shorter than Hogan.lol so if you also think Haystacks was 6'4'' no one is going to take anything you say serious.
Logic said on 22/Aug/16
Here is a photo of Danny Miller standing with Andre. Andre appears to have a good 11" on Miller and possibly more.


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Danny Miller standing with Jerry Brisco.


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Miller was in his 80's in that photo with Brisco and he looks to have an easy 3.5"-4" on Brisco.


And now here is a photo of Danny Miller standing with Muhammad Ali and Rocky Marciano


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To me, Danny looks like he would be at least 6' tall in that photo with Ali.
Boss said on 22/Aug/16
Chaz said on 16/Aug/16
Straightahead,don't talk rubish 6'4'' lol Click Here John Quinn is over 6'4'' here and Haystacks is 3-4'' taller.and Pat Roach was just as tall as Lewis and
Haystacks had 3-4'' on him. and if you go find the 1977 Fight between Nagasaki and Haystacks befor he got too fat you will see he looks 6-7" taller he looks like a baby next to him.

Chaz said on 2/Oct/14
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This is Haystacks at he's peak height about 1977ish he's about 6.5-7'' taller than Daddy,who was about the same height as Nagasaki,Tony St Clair,Dave Taylor,Seve Regal, Oto Wanz,and Ray Steele.

All who you have at 6'2" and your saying 7" taller than 6'2".

Like you trying to say Giant Haystacks is 6'9". Well here is Andre and Haystacks with the same guy.
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Andre and Khali with similar posture and camera angles next to Bill Anderson. Anderson would have footwear advantage here.
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Chaz said on 22/Aug/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 21/Aug/16 JT just proved that Andre was in normal dressshoe-like heel so don´t claim he was in his 2"+ monster-cowboyboots. So no full 3" for Kiel.

Kiels feet are about shoulderwide and his legs look like knock knees so he would´nt gain anything noticeable putting them closer.

Rob did a test on height with different stances so nothing to argue about this.

Wrong on both things,he's heels are bigger,and stand back to a wall get someone to hold a book on your head on the wall,now stand with your feet about 12" apart now move them more apart about 20" now do you see? shorter. any more exuses? he's 3-3.5 shorter barefoot.
Telamonas said on 22/Aug/16
Tiny “Zeus” Lister Discusses Working With Hulk Hogan, No Holds Barred, Issues With Andre the Giant, More: Click Here
He claims Hogan was 6'5'' and Andre was 7'1. Also we have Ernie Ladd who told that Andre was clearly taller than him and Terry Todd who describes Andre as easily 7' or little more. Also the very same Meltzer judging from the photo Andre Arnold Wilt gives Andre as only 1' shorter than Wilt (6'11.5" to Wilt's 7'0.5") I don't know if he was really 7'1'' (216 cm) but this 208cm peak makes no sense at all. Personally I saw a 1971 video in french language where Andre claims to be 214cm (7'0.25'') and I think that was his real height.
Boss said on 21/Aug/16
Andre with good posture with Big Show who has footwear advantage over Andre here.
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Capt. Nobody said on 21/Aug/16
JT said on 18/Aug/16
Capt. Nobody said on 17/Aug/16
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OK, now how much height would Andre's boots on Letterman have to be giving him for your shot to come out remotely correct knowing this?:

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This is Andre and Kiel in literally the same spot, next to the same objects….

But Andre and Kiel were walking out and the camera does not pick up how straight their lower bodies were. Here, they are standing next to the same desk
Click Here There’s no reason to believe those aren’t the same brown boots he wore with Wilt a few months earlier.

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If body straightness is a key factor in the comparison how can you post a shot with Andre in that position next to the chair? Kiel is in front of the chair in his shot, what happens when you compare it with Andre in front of his chair?

There is too much alteration in foreground to background movement with no clear indicators of relative distance so it's not good shot selection for comparison. However the shot used with Andre and Kiel walking out, although Kiel starts to hop a bit in his video, has them next to the same objects while both were at a down step so neither is gaining any real height advantage.

Now, BACK TO THE QUESTION, Andre's in his boots is how tall compared to Kiel in your shot? Now, how thick are his boots and how tall would Andre be in your shot w/o boots on?

Once again, it goes back to the Wilt shots, those shots would not be remotely possible if your Kiel shots were accurate unless you want to lay out all the heights involved and show how they all fit together. The problem is that eventually the numbers somewhere won't balance out. You will have to really downgrade or upgrade Wilt or Kiel.

There are plenty of reasons to believe the boots in the Wilt shots are similar to the around 2 inch heel boot on display next to the measuring tape.

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Chaz said on 21/Aug/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 21/Aug/16
And Shoemaker is standing more infront of Andre than Bach infront of Kiel, because of Andre being much thicker.

Shoemakers height should also be more reliable than Bach´s listing, although shes coming out a solid 5´7", she could be a bit under it back then.

No is is not Shoemaker is pressed fright up to Andre,Bach is not there is a gap between them are you blind? any more rubish do you want to come out with?
Chaz said on 21/Aug/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 21/Aug/16
Chaz said on 21/Aug/16
...and if you think Wilt and Andre are side by side,you can not have been in the Army lol.


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If you think Wilt is as wide as Andre you couldn´t even be a dummy for an H-bomb test.

Wide! what are you talking about? were have a said about wide,are you all there? do you know what is ment in the Army by take your dressing from the Right,Right Dress? if you don't look it up.if you can read that is.
dicksock said on 21/Aug/16
I will once again post the picture of Andre with 6'5"-6'6" David Von Erich:
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Both men have equal footwear, posture, are lined up, and it's a full-body pic. Andre is absolutely about 6" taller. This pic is from the early 80s, so he was without question at his tallest. This pretty much shows that Andre was 6'11"-7' at his tallest.

Here is David with his 6'2" brother Kerry:
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Boss said on 21/Aug/16
Q: Are the heights listed with shoes?
A: No. Assume every height as though the celebrity was measured barefoot. This isn't the NBA! I make no claim as to whether any listed height is an evening or early morning one, but technically I think you are better off saying your height based on the time when people get measured on average, which obviously wouldn't be out of bed, but might be about 5 hours after waking. After you've been standing for 5-6 hours you won't shrink much more during the rest of the day compared to how much you shrink in the time period from waking up till lunchtime.

So if Andre measured a height no matter what time of day he would be listed that height here. How many people use average height. You give your best measurement not your average one. If someone can show video or photos of an actual measurement he has every right to claim that height because he is that height. If your doctor measures you at 6'1" an hour or 2 after you woke up are you gonna give this height or measure yourself 3 more times through the day and give your average of the 4 measurements. This ain't Guinness and they don't even stick to that for all their listings. Chaz has Andre at 6'11". Somewhere in the 7.025"-7'1" is closer to the truth for a peak morning height.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 21/Aug/16
Chaz said on 21/Aug/16
...and if you think Wilt and Andre are side by side,you can not have been in the Army lol.


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If you think Wilt is as wide as Andre you couldn´t even be a dummy for an H-bomb test.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 21/Aug/16
And Shoemaker is standing more infront of Andre than Bach infront of Kiel, because of Andre being much thicker.

Shoemakers height should also be more reliable than Bach´s listing, although shes coming out a solid 5´7", she could be a bit under it back then.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 21/Aug/16
JT said on 20/Aug/16
Click Here Andre’s in cowboy boots but they had a pretty modest heel
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Thats no cowboyboots, look at your 2. pic, his pants wouldn´t fall like this at his left leg.
Kiels shoes look pretty comparable looking at the heel.



And thank you for killing your 6´10" bashing once and for all - by yourself - or do yu think anyone with a brain believes Andres head was 11.5" including chinfat???

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Chaz said on 20/Aug/16
I have been saying the same thing for 7 years now,only I think Kiel was 3'' taller than Andre because you never see Andre in anything less than a 2'' heel and Kiel's feet are wide apart.
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JT just proved that Andre was in normal dressshoe-like heel so don´t claim he was in his 2"+ monster-cowboyboots. So no full 3" for Kiel.

Kiels feet are about shoulderwide and his legs look like knock knees so he would´nt gain anything noticeable putting them closer.

Rob did a test on height with different stances so nothing to argue about this.
Chaz said on 21/Aug/16
Boss said on 20/Aug/16
Willie Shoemaker has to be the worst possible person to compare with and he is standing in front of Andre. It's over a 2' gap and Andre it's hard to tell if the ground is level in the pic. Andre stood side by side with 7'1" Wilt which would be the best height judging photos we have and they are very close to the same height barefoot.

You mean the worse for you, and your Andre the same height as Wilt rubbish,there is nothing wrong with the ground you can see it in the other photo,were Andre is holding him up,and Bach is in front of Kiel and she comes out about right,so those two excuses,can be layed to rest. and I add 0.5" to take that in to account,even tho they are in contact and Shoemaker is so thin to matter, try again,if he was 7'1'' there he would be at least 7'4'' to the top of he's hair next to Shoemaker and 7'3'' if he was 7'.he's
3'' too short.and if you think Wilt and Andre are side by side,you can not have been in the Army lol.
mrtguy said on 21/Aug/16
Assuming Kingma is 6'9.5'' I really wonder if he would come up to peak Big Show like this?? Click Here
Nobody said on 21/Aug/16
Here is a rare Andre match from 1972, here he is in much better shape so it might be easier to judge his height, how much does he look to weigh here would you guys say?

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JT said on 20/Aug/16
Click Here Andre’s in cowboy boots but they had a pretty modest heel compared to his usual whoppers Click Here Kiel looks like he’s in dress shoes. Click Here
Boss said on 20/Aug/16
Willie Shoemaker has to be the worst possible person to compare with and he is standing in front of Andre. It's over a 2' gap and Andre it's hard to tell if the ground is level in the pic. Andre stood side by side with 7'1" Wilt which would be the best height judging photos we have and they are very close to the same height barefoot.
Chaz said on 20/Aug/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 19/Aug/16
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Putting Andres head at a minimum 12.5" including chinfat, Kiel comes out about 2.5" taller. Both look to be in equal dressshoes.
Andres eyeline is at Kiels mouth.

This pretty much looks like the gap between todays Big Show and Shaq, both in equal dressshoes,
Big Show is stretching out and his eyelevel is at Shaqs mouth Click Here

Kiel at 7´1.5"-7´1.75" is a full inch taller than Shaq. So peak Andre is about an inch taller than todays Big Show.

I have been saying the same thing for 7 years now,only I think Kiel was 3'' taller than Andre because you never see Andre in anything less than a 2'' heel and Kiel's feet are wide apart.

Peak Heights

Andre 6'11'' morning 6'10'' evening, should be listed 6'10.5''

Big Show 7' morning 6'11'' evening,should be listed 6'11.5''

Kiel 7'2'' morning 7'1'' evening,should be listed 7'1.5'' IMO
Chaz said on 20/Aug/16
mrtguy said on 19/Aug/16
JT Click Here

how tall would you say Big Show looks in comparison to Michael Kingma (6'9.5'') ??

The problem you have there is Haystacks come up to the same place on Big Show's nose,if that guy is 6'9.5'' he should be up were Nash was on Big Show in the middle of the forhead, so something is out.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 20/Aug/16
mrtguy said on 19/Aug/16
JT Click Here

how tall would you say Big Show looks in comparison to Michael Kingma (6'9.5'') ??
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Now Meane Gene is as tall as Rob?? How tall does that make Charles Barkley next to Meane Gene???

Anyway...

How tall is Kingma standing next to Rob? barely 6´8" Fact.

Big Show is in his ~1.75" giant boots of course next to Meane Gene.

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@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 20/Aug/16
Danimal said on 20/Aug/16

Thing is, when Big Show had a face off with Shaq, he was no longer the height he had been in the WCW. Imo, he had already lost at least 1.5-2" by then. Had a 1995-1999 Big Show stood next to Shaq, they would have been the same height.
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Thats rubbish nonsense, it´s proved he wasn´t much over 6´11" flat without his giant boots.
Now he lost up to 2" because the giant fanboys can´t stand they were fooled with the 7ft+ hype and JT´s Big Show had Andre by 2"+ agenda....

Big Show was a solid 6´11" guy peak and now is 6´10"
Andre was solid 6´11"peak and ~6´10" at the end.
Shaq is no less than 7´0.5" today

No need to bring storys up about an unrealistic heightloss to replace reality with fanboyhype...

You move in the same circle 12yrs now?!! same as JT´s Andre peak 6´10" bashing.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 20/Aug/16
Chaz said on 19/Aug/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft
Total Rubish why are you putting the line at the top of Andre's hair for?
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Total Rubbish??? YOU didn´t even get it...
The line shows where Kiels skull is under his hair and how Andre stacks up to...

Kiel gave his height as 7´1.75" and was between 7´2.5" and 7´3" in his special made giant sneakers, did you understand this or is it rubbish too, to your brain.
Danimal said on 20/Aug/16
Boss said on 18/Aug/16
This fits perfectly with Captain's Letterman show comparison with Andre and Richard Kiel. Andre in cowboy boots was taller than 7'1" men in their footwear. Wilt was an inch taller than Shaq and Shaq has Big Show by at least 2" yet Jt has Big Show 2" taller than Andre which doesn't make any sense. Big Show would need a step ladder to match up to Wilt the way Andre did.

Thing is, when Big Show had a face off with Shaq, he was no longer the height he had been in the WCW. Imo, he had already lost at least 1.5-2" by then. Had a 1995-1999 Big Show stood next to Shaq, they would have been the same height.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 19/Aug/16
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Putting Andres head at a minimum 12.5" including chinfat, Kiel comes out about 2.5" taller. Both look to be in equal dressshoes.
Andres eyeline is at Kiels mouth.

This pretty much looks like the gap between todays Big Show and Shaq, both in equal dressshoes,
Big Show is stretching out and his eyelevel is at Shaqs mouth Click Here

Kiel at 7´1.5"-7´1.75" is a full inch taller than Shaq. So peak Andre is about an inch taller than todays Big Show.
Chaz said on 19/Aug/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 19/Aug/16 just hit 7´0" in cowboyboots????? He would be under 6´10" barefoot then - YOUR agenda....


What´s Kiel then, 7´0.5-7´0.75" in sneakers putting them at the same level with their feet???
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Kiel was 7´2.5"-7´3" in sneakers and Andre 7´1.5"-7´2" in cowboyboots, every nonbiased person can see that.

Total Rubish why are you putting the line at the top of Andre's hair for? And Kiel's sneekers don't even look 1" let alone 1.5" they are like Rebook classic about 3/4" and you can work out from the desk how much taller Kiel was even Kiel's jacket is much longer,the total height of Andre in the Shoemaker photo was 7'1" with hair and boots,You try prove me wrong? unless Andre was only getting 1" from the hair and shoes you can forget 7' everything you need to work out Andre's height is in the photo,
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 19/Aug/16
JT said on 18/Aug/16
Capt. Nobody said on 17/Aug/16
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OK, now how much height would Andre's boots on Letterman have to be giving him for your shot to come out remotely correct knowing this?:

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This is Andre and Kiel in literally the same spot, next to the same objects….

But Andre and Kiel were walking out and the camera does not pick up how straight their lower bodies were. Here, they are standing next to the same desk
Click Here There’s no reason to believe those aren’t the same brown boots he wore with Wilt a few months earlier.

JT said on 18/Aug/16

You won’t find any full body picture or video of Andre looking even close to 7’0” barefoot when he was in regular shoes or wrestling boots. He might have hit 7’0” in his cowboy boots but that’s it.

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just hit 7´0" in cowboyboots????? He would be under 6´10" barefoot then - YOUR agenda....


What´s Kiel then, 7´0.5-7´0.75" in sneakers putting them at the same level with their feet???
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Kiel was 7´2.5"-7´3" in sneakers and Andre 7´1.5"-7´2" in cowboyboots, every nonbiased person can see that.
mrtguy said on 19/Aug/16
JT Click Here

how tall would you say Big Show looks in comparison to Michael Kingma (6'9.5'') ??
mrtguy said on 19/Aug/16
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how tall would you say Big Show looks in comparison to Michael Kingma (6'9.5'') ??
JT said on 18/Aug/16
Capt. Nobody said on 17/Aug/16
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OK, now how much height would Andre's boots on Letterman have to be giving him for your shot to come out remotely correct knowing this?:

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This is Andre and Kiel in literally the same spot, next to the same objects….

But Andre and Kiel were walking out and the camera does not pick up how straight their lower bodies were. Here, they are standing next to the same desk
Click Here There’s no reason to believe those aren’t the same brown boots he wore with Wilt a few months earlier.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 18/Aug/16
Capt. Nobody said on 17/Aug/16
JT said on 17/Aug/16
....That’s about how a peak Big Show would have measured up to a peak Andre and Richard Kiel.

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OK, now how much height would Andre's boots on Letterman have to be giving him for your shot to come out remotely correct knowing this?:

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This is Andre and Kiel in literally the same spot, next to the same objects. Everyone here can make their own judgement, but don't necessarily assume people believing their own eyes for the reality in front of them as being nothing more than "fan boys".


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Yeah, and it fits pefectly with my version of Andre next to Wilt.
Andre was 2,18m in Cowboyboots, the height he gave his familymembers if asked. Maybe down to 2,17m for eveningheight but that´s it.
peak 2,14m early morning, 2,11-2,12m evening.

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RoelC said on 18/Aug/16
Boss said on 17/Aug/16
Thanks Roel C. Here is the new pic from Roel C with the other Andre photos all lined up. Everything fits perfectly.
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Except that Wilt appears shorter in the left pic compared to the right pic, despite the fact that he raises his head a litte bit more. How can he lose height by raising his head?

Boss said on 17/Aug/16
Here it is with Jt's version of Roel C's new photo. Arnold and Andre both come out too short.
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That's because the left pic is slightly tilted, while the right pic isn't. Look at the floor marking in front of Schwarzenegger. In Jt's version of your pic that floor marking was level, as it was in the original pic I've posted. If the floor markings are level in both pics, the results are just fine.
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JT said on 18/Aug/16
dicksock said on 17/Aug/16
….Wilt is not clearly taller in this pic. The two are the same height. Andre could stretch out to become equal with Wilt in that pic….

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Andre’s standing erect and Wilt could gain a little height by raising his head. The fact that Wilt’s eye level is above Andre’s even though he’s looking down shows that he’s taller (remember that the distance from Andre’s eyes to the top of his head was relatively average)

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dicksock said on 17/Aug/16
….No offense, but if you think a current Big Show would be 2" taller than a prime Andre, you are crazy….

I wrote “peak” Big Show, not current Big Show, which likely means that the girl is under 5’2”.

You won’t find any full body picture or video of Andre looking even close to 7’0” barefoot when he was in regular shoes or wrestling boots. He might have hit 7’0” in his cowboy boots but that’s it.
Boss said on 18/Aug/16
This fits perfectly with Captain's Letterman show comparison with Andre and Richard Kiel. Andre in cowboy boots was taller than 7'1" men in their footwear. Wilt was an inch taller than Shaq and Shaq has Big Show by at least 2" yet Jt has Big Show 2" taller than Andre which doesn't make any sense. Big Show would need a step ladder to match up to Wilt the way Andre did.
Boss said on 18/Aug/16
This is about as close to the truth as we're going to get. It is very clear to see Andre in 2" cowboy boots is taller than Wilt in his boots.
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Boss said on 18/Aug/16
Here are the 2 photos together unedited.

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Chaz said on 18/Aug/16
Andre is nearest the camara,in the Wilt photo any fool can see it,Andre's left Arm is hitting the camara first,Wilt's back is behide both of them,and he's less side on and thiner in the body, Andre is gaining 1" .
Boss said on 17/Aug/16
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dicksock said on 17/Aug/16
JT said on 17/Aug/16
Wilt’s clearly taller in the pic despite Andre’s footwear advantage Click Here and is so in every picture out there of the two. Wilt's 7'0.5" measurement in 1983 could have been done at night but it's still time for at least a 2 inch downgrade, especially given the 6'10" billings at age 23 and the photos of an early 20s Andre in regular footwear with his 5'11" aunt, the Mini Cooper, etc.

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While I do agree that this picture does represent the truth because the tilt is gone, Wilt is not clearly taller in this pic. The two are the same height. Andre could stretch out to become equal with Wilt in that pic. To me, it is clear that Wilt was 7'1" legit and about 7'1.5" in his boots while Andre was about 6'11.5" legit and 7'1.5" in his boots. Keep in mind this picture was taken in the day. Andre was probably around 7' out of bed at his tallest and around 6'11" at night. I really doubt he was under 6'11" during the day at his peak or even past it.

JT said on 17/Aug/16
mrtguy said on 16/Aug/16
Rob, the girl infornt of Big Show is 5'2'', how could he only be 6'10.5'' he's got be more or at least with shoes Click Here

Click Here What proof do you have that she’s really 5’2” (I assumed no shoes on here)? That’s about how a peak Big Show would have measured up to a peak Andre and Richard Kiel. Barbara Bach is listed everywhere at 5’7” and Willie Shoemaker 4’11” (I gave him 5’0” in his boots but I doubt his size 2 ˝ child’s boots are going to have a one inch heel).

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No offense, but if you think a current Big Show would be 2" taller than a prime Andre, you are crazy. You have a current Big Show stacking up better next to Richard Kiel than he did next to Shaq (and no Kiel is not losing any real height with his slightly wide stance). I really think you need to let go of the idea that Show was ever noticeably taller than Andre; especially a current Big Show. By all accounts, Andre was a naturally bigger, more impressive looking man, and both were nearly 7' in their primes. Also, it seems to me like Show's big heels on his boots are only a little smaller than most of Andre's cowboy boots.
Boss said on 17/Aug/16
Here are the original photos together unedited.
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Boss said on 17/Aug/16
Thanks Roel C. Here is the new pic from Roel C with the other Andre photos all lined up. Everything fits perfectly.
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Here it is with Jt's version of Roel C's new photo. Arnold and Andre both come out too short.

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Wilt's left foot is slightly closer to the camera than Andre's and Wilt's right foot is way closer to the camera than Andre's right foot.
Capt. Nobody said on 17/Aug/16
JT said on 17/Aug/16
mrtguy said on 16/Aug/16
Rob, the girl infornt of Big Show is 5'2'', how could he only be 6'10.5'' he's got be more or at least with shoes Click Here

Click Here What proof do you have that she’s really 5’2” (I assumed no shoes on here)? That’s about how a peak Big Show would have measured up to a peak Andre and Richard Kiel. Barbara Bach is listed everywhere at 5’7” and Willie Shoemaker 4’11” (I gave him 5’0” in his boots but I doubt his size 2 ˝ child’s boots are going to have a one inch heel).

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OK, now how much height would Andre's boots on Letterman have to be giving him for your shot to come out remotely correct knowing this?:

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This is Andre and Kiel in literally the same spot, next to the same objects. Everyone here can make their own judgement, but don't necessarily assume people believing their own eyes for the reality in front of them as being nothing more than "fan boys".

When I first came on this board the hypothesis that Big Show was up to 3 inches taller than a 6'9.5" Andre was being floated around. I'm sorry, but that has been as close to debunked as you can get when related to the evidence we have available.
RoelC said on 17/Aug/16
Boss said on 16/Aug/16 @ ROELC . That was taken from a pic a magazine. The new original has not been altered so we have to take it into consideration. If the color pic is original it really just demonstrates how much height Andre can loose by titling his head down that far and not fully straightening his back. We do have 4 pics of them. Click Here

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Unless you got your picture from the photographer itself, I don't understand why you think your pic is the unaltered version.

It all boils down on which source you think is more reliable:

a professional magazine that got its pic directly from the source and had to deal with copyright laws (the copyright owner had to approve the use of its picture)

or

a moviestills sharing website that gives little to no info on its source. I can only see who uploaded the pic, not where he got it from. The website doesn't have to deal with copyright laws (i.e. it doesn't have to ask permission from the original copyright owner to upload the picture).

If the picture was altered, it's far more likely the pic on the moviestills sharing website got altered.

And what are the odds that both the pic in the bodybuilding magazine as the pic that appeared in Meltzer's Wrestling Observer were shot from virtually the exact
same angle.
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The camera angles are near identical and don't lead to any skewed results. Arnold & Wilt stay virtually the same height, while Andre visually becomes taller from raising his head.
You can keep on with your conspiracy theories of Meltzer deliberately altering his pic, but he had absolutely nothing to do with the pic that was posted in Muscular Development.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 17/Aug/16
JT said on 17/Aug/16
There’s nothing to debate ....

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JT said on 17/Aug/16
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 15/Aug/16
….JT overtilted with his "correction" to fit his agenda
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look at the lines I

Wrong – everyone is still leaning too far to the left in your version. Plus, look at the markings on the arch in the background, the level of the floor beneath Wilt’s and Andre’s feet and how straight their bodies are. There’s about a 5 degree camera tilt, corrected here
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Still lol about all that nonsense, the set is now acurate build with a water bubble, it´s set in the late Bronze Age ....
Since the camera is a bit more on the right site compared to the markings your lines can´t fit even if its waterlevel.

As I said you´ll come up with everything you can use to lower Andre.

Boss Photo made one thing clear and dicksock already mentioned it:

"dicksock said on 13/Aug/16
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It's not the front foot that matters, it's the back. They are pretty much lined up with each other"

They´re both pretty much in line/ same distance to the camera with the back foot, so the only right thing to do is tilt them at the same level with the back foot and measure them up to each other. If you overtilt one way or the other, you can´t compare them because they don´t stand at the same level

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But I don´t need to tell you whats wrong in your tilted pic, you know what you do to downgrade Andre...
Chaz said on 17/Aug/16
JT said on 17/Aug/16 Click Here What proof do you have that she’s really 5’2” (I assumed no shoes on here)? That’s about how a peak Big Show would have measured up to a peak Andre and Richard Kiel. Barbara Bach is listed everywhere at 5’7” and Willie Shoemaker 4’11” (I gave him 5’0” in his boots but I doubt his size 2 ˝ child’s boots are going to have a one inch heel

kiel looks 18" taller than Bach but he's in boots so take 1'' off but she is closer to the camara and Kiel's feet are wide apart so add back 1" and you get just what you expect from a 7'1.5'' man next to a 5'7'' person give or take 0.5''.

Now do the same with Andre using he's 12" face and with boots and hair he's 7'1''.and there is no bad posture or 500lbs of old Andre or any other excuse we keep getting.and we know 100% Shoemakers height,
JT said on 17/Aug/16
mrtguy said on 16/Aug/16
Rob, the girl infornt of Big Show is 5'2'', how could he only be 6'10.5'' he's got be more or at least with shoes Click Here

Click Here What proof do you have that she’s really 5’2” (I assumed no shoes on here)? That’s about how a peak Big Show would have measured up to a peak Andre and Richard Kiel. Barbara Bach is listed everywhere at 5’7” and Willie Shoemaker 4’11” (I gave him 5’0” in his boots but I doubt his size 2 ˝ child’s boots are going to have a one inch heel).
JT said on 17/Aug/16
There’s nothing to debate – both indoor color photos were taken by the same person within a few moments of each other and at a very similar high camera level Click Here No one’s picture is “fake.” The movie stills database photo Boss and other fan boys have latched on to was either scanned in crookedly or it’s the photographer’s fault.

@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 15/Aug/16
….JT overtilted with his "correction" to fit his agenda
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look at the lines I

Wrong – everyone is still leaning too far to the left in your version. Plus, look at the markings on the arch in the background, the level of the floor beneath Wilt’s and Andre’s feet and how straight their bodies are. There’s about a 5 degree camera tilt, corrected here
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Wilt’s clearly taller in the pic despite Andre’s footwear advantage Click Here and is so in every picture out there of the two. Wilt's 7'0.5" measurement in 1983 could have been done at night but it's still time for at least a 2 inch downgrade, especially given the 6'10" billings at age 23 and the photos of an early 20s Andre in regular footwear with his 5'11" aunt, the Mini Cooper, etc.
aaronrius said on 17/Aug/16
BOSS, you did an awesome job of proving JT's bias in his photos.. he has always used photoshop to alter his photos, using tilt and zoom to make Andre look smaller.. and from your exmaples, it is BLANTANTLY obvious that he tilted those pics 5+ degress negative in WIlt's favor.

Yes, we know that Wilt was a legit 7'1.125", and yes, we know that andre had 2inch soles, but Wilt's footwear were still boots. i think Andre had a maximum of an inch advantage in his shoes. after you corrected the angle on those photos, the top of Andre's skull actually appears slightly taller than Wilt, by MAYBE a half inch..after accouting for each person's footwear, this is putting Andre around 7'0.5", which is EXACTLY where i estimated him to be based on the barefoot weight scale picture analysis i did years ago, using pixel counts and the known height of an existing object to determine Andre was 7'0.5" barefoot:

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Capt. Nobody said on 16/Aug/16
Halb said on 14/Aug/16
When you take the line of the stone blocks in the corridor between the two giants, it looks like Wilt has significant height on André, and that's with André in his boots.

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The line on the floor would be the best comparison marker since it's likely the floor is fairly level and they are all very closely situated around it.
Chaz said on 16/Aug/16
Can we stop with this Rubish now,the photo is tilted,you can see from the arch,it's a fake to make Andre look taller,we are back to the same old useless photos,Wilt at he's shortest because we know he was measured at 7'.5'' laying down that would make him 7' standing up at the time, Andre is in 2.5'' cowboy boots,and the camara is over he's side and because he's much bigger .making him look taller than he is,and still looks Shoter, than wilt .END Of STORY if this is the best Best you can come up with to make
Andre 7' foot,then you need to keep looking.
Boss said on 16/Aug/16
@ ROELC . That was taken from a pic a magazine. The new original has not been altered so we have to take it into consideration. If the color pic is original it really just demonstrates how much height Andre can loose by titling his head down that far and not fully straightening his back. We do have 4 pics of them.
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Boss said on 16/Aug/16
Andre would gain height by lifting his head up all the way in any of the Wilt and Arnold photos.
mrtguy said on 16/Aug/16
Rob, the girl infornt of Big Show is 5'2'', how could he only be 6'10.5'' he's got be more or at least with shoes Click Here
Editor Rob: hard to spot the type of shoes the lady might have there.
RoelC said on 15/Aug/16
Boss said on 10/Aug/16
I bring evidence that JT and Meltzer's photos are fake and the other color shot same. You can tell that from the difference in angles and the color.
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Why are you so convinced that your pic is the original one and the others are fake?
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This pic appeared in the bodybuilding magazine Muscular Development in October 1984. It shows about as much detail as your pic. Difference is, this pic is slightly cropped at the top and on Andre’s side. Your pic is slightly cropped on Wilt’s side and at the bottom.

No camera tilt here and this is about as legit as it gets. The magazine claims the pics came directly from Universal Studios, which owns the copyright to these pics. Doubt they’re even allowed to do extensive photoshopping on a copyrighted picture. Especially considering they're using it for commercial purposes.

What’s the source for your pic? That’s right...a moviestills sharing website, which in no way is affiliated to Universal Studios. You can easily create an account there and upload any picture you want. They only have rules to which a picture must apply: Click Here
They’re not going to check if a picture is deliberately photoshopped. And the original copyright owners won’t see these pics, as the website is for editorial use only without the goal of making a profit. That means they don't have to ask the copyright owner permission to post these pics.

You can claim JT photoshopped the original pic that was posted on moviestills sharing website, but fact remains his pic matches up to the pic that was posted in a bodybuilding magazine. And the original picture clearly doesn't. So who's to say that the original uploader didn't tilt the picture himself.

If I have to chose between two pictures I'll chose the pic for which I know its original source every time.
@HeightcrazyRed6ft said on 15/Aug/16
dicksock said on 13/Aug/16
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1. Tilt - JT overtilted with his "correction" to fit his agenda
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look at the lines I draw at their feet - he has Wilt on a 3cm higher stand with his tilt, he couldn´t stand that Andre in cowboyboots was taller than Wilt by ~0.5"

2. Position - Andre and Wilt are lined up,
but the camera is more to the right, so Andres site, making it impossible for Wilt to be closer, but no real disadvantage in height to Wilt since the camera is very high.

3. Footwear - It´s around 1.4", not 1" not 2".
Danimal said on 15/Aug/16
dicksock said on 13/Aug/16

It's not the front foot that matters, it's the back. They are pretty much lined up with each other. Really, JT's photo just corrects the unbelievably obvious camera tilt in Boss's original picture. Andre is really about the same height as Wilt in cowboy boots that give him about a 1.5" footwear advantage. All the evidence in the world points to Andre having been 6'11"-7' at his tallest, losing minimal height throughout his career. I don't know anyone can actually think Andre was the same height or taller than Wilt. Just look at Wilt and Andre next to Mohammad Ali. If the original pic is even remotely accurate, then Andre must have been a legit 7'4" in cowboy boots because he looks several inches taller than 7'1" Wilt Chamberlain who was probably about 7'1.5" in his shoes. This is all nonsense. Again, we even have a fully grown Andre claiming to be 214cm or 7'0.25", so there is no way anyone with any form of common sense could think he was ever taller than that. Honestly, that may have been his morning height at his tallest and he would have been about 1" shorter max by the evening. He likely wasn't even quite that tall though.

I tend to agree with your assessment dicksock. After having been on this site for almost 12 years now, my opinion (unbiased one) is that Andre stood somewhere between 6'11.5" and 7'0.25" at his absolute peak height (slightly under Big Show's 7'0.5" peak) and like the Big Show, Andre began to lose height starting in his 30's (around 35) due to being very heavy and through surgeries on his spinal column and knees. Andre at times looked as short as 6'9"-6'9.5" towards the end, but was probably able to still reach 6'10"-6'10.5" if he stood fully straight, which seemed impossible for him to do by that time. It looks like 500 pound giants are meant to lose height especially when they are wrestlers (Big Show appears to look in the 6'10" region today imo and he's the same age that Andre was towards the end of his career).
Boss said on 14/Aug/16
The new pic with tilt fixed correctly fits with the other Andre, Wilt and Arnold pic fine. That last color altered photo Arnold is too short with his best posture in all the photos next to Wilt. Wilt is pretty close but Arnold and of course Andre don't fit.
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Halb said on 14/Aug/16
When you take the line of the stone blocks in the corridor between the two giants, it looks like Wilt has significant height on André, and that's with André in his boots.
Capt. Nobody said on 14/Aug/16
dicksock said on 13/Aug/16


It's not the front foot that matters, it's the back. They are pretty much lined up with each other. Really, JT's photo just corrects the unbelievably obvious camera tilt in Boss's original picture. Andre is really about the same height as Wilt in cowboy boots that give him about a 1.5" footwear advantage. All the evidence in the world points to Andre having been 6'11"-7' at his tallest, losing minimal height throughout his career. I don't know anyone can actually think Andre was the same height or taller than Wilt. Just look at Wilt and Andre next to Mohammad Ali. If the original pic is even remotely accurate, then Andre must have been a legit 7'4" in cowboy boots because he looks several inches taller than 7'1" Wilt Chamberlain who was probably about 7'1.5" in his shoes. This is all nonsense. Again, we even have a fully grown Andre claiming to be 214cm or 7'0.25", so there is no way anyone with any form of common sense could think he was ever taller than that. Honestly, that may have been his morning height at his tallest and he would have been about 1" shorter max by the evening. He likely wasn't even quite that tall though.

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Which is what I had been stating the whole time. This is just to put to rest that somehow Andre is in front of Wilt. In fact, his body isn't even turned much more towards the camera than Wilts. It's just that his body is quite a bit wider than Wilts so his left side is technically closer to the camera, but as I've illustrated in the past, even his back shoulder lines up scale wise with Andre gaining no height advantage from it.

This and the Kiel shots from Letterman show that Andre, in his boots, is around both Wilt (and yes, appears to be a bit taller than Wilt in a few shots unless the top of Wilts head literally goes up to the top of that wig) and Kiels height level while both were in moderate footwear. Nothing from a photo can be totally conclusive when you are playing a game of millimeters but it's getting closer.

So... back to the same two things: boot heel and Andre standing his tallest.
JT said on 14/Aug/16
Boss’s pic with the 5 degree camera tilt corrected. Click Here
Boss said on 14/Aug/16
Andre was 7'1" range in the morning but by night be under 7' because of his enormous size. These are daytime photos with Wilt so Andre would be taller than he would at a wrestling show at night. His posture played a huge role because he could stretch out in almost every photo we have of him including with Wild and Arnold.
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Also, Andre almost always has his head titled down and the other person is at their tallest looking up at Andre. Wilt and Arnold have better posture with Andre. So you would have to add 1" for Andre's posture disadvantage to get their true measured heights. Also, Jt overly exaggerated his Andre , Wilt comparison too much with the new photo. Andre is taller than Wilt in the black and white pic that is titled in Wilt's favor.
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With the tilt corrected properly.
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Here is Jt's correction of the same photo which is clearly under tilted in Wilt's favor but Andre is still taller though.
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Andre looked bigger in 1972 than he did in that 1971 video. Just his head alone would could make up .5" or time of day he was measured. His head never stopped growing.
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Andre always claimed a height of 2.18m when asked by his family or friends how tall he really was as told by his nephew Boris Roussimoff. Boris could have just said 7'4".

Here us Andre's back length as measured by his tailor. These measurements are done in socks as shown. Andre's back length you can see his 74" or 6'2" from the bottom of his shirt collar to the floor. Then you have his 12"+ head. If this measurement was done in the shoes he is wearing there then Andre would be 7'1" range barefoot.
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184guy said on 14/Aug/16
Rob , maybe a slight downgrade to 6'11.5 ?
All the evidences points to Andre somewhere in the 6'11 range
Maybe a 211 would be a better listing.The 7ft probably an early in day measurument
Editor Rob: he was under it many years ago, then I thought I'd seen enough to go with the 7ft mark.
Steve said on 14/Aug/16
Capt. Nobody you are correct Andre is not in front, neither is Wilt. They are both in the same line, making their positions redundant when arguing Andres height. In the photo you posted, Andre clearly has a clear footware advantage over Wilt. His cowboy boots give him at least a 1 inch advantage. Andre does look around 213cm in the photos, Wilt looks around 215cm. No new evidence has been posted in here in years, so unless more photos of Andre and Wilt come up, these arguments are going around in circles. Andre certainly wasn't over 213cm barefoot ever.
Telamonas said on 14/Aug/16
Nice job Boss. You made it clear that 6'10'' peak Andre is nonsense. He is clearly over 7' without shoes. He is easily taller than Wilt (counting footwear) but even barefoot he doesn't seem shorter.
dicksock said on 13/Aug/16
Capt. Nobody said on 12/Aug/16
dicksock said on 11/Aug/16
So now Wilt is closer to the camera and Andre has only 1" of footwear advantage? Ah well, some people only see what they want to see. To help this page regain some semblance of reality, here is Andre at his tallest in equal footwear next to 6'2" Tony Atlas:
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Look at the feet, it's literally that easy. At the very least he's right in a straight line, no doubts now. His front foot is clearly in front of Andres.

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It's not the front foot that matters, it's the back. They are pretty much lined up with each other. Really, JT's photo just corrects the unbelievably obvious camera tilt in Boss's original picture. Andre is really about the same height as Wilt in cowboy boots that give him about a 1.5" footwear advantage. All the evidence in the world points to Andre having been 6'11"-7' at his tallest, losing minimal height throughout his career. I don't know anyone can actually think Andre was the same height or taller than Wilt. Just look at Wilt and Andre next to Mohammad Ali. If the original pic is even remotely accurate, then Andre must have been a legit 7'4" in cowboy boots because he looks several inches taller than 7'1" Wilt Chamberlain who was probably about 7'1.5" in his shoes. This is all nonsense. Again, we even have a fully grown Andre claiming to be 214cm or 7'0.25", so there is no way anyone with any form of common sense could think he was ever taller than that. Honestly, that may have been his morning height at his tallest and he would have been about 1" shorter max by the evening. He likely wasn't even quite that tall though.
Boss said on 12/Aug/16
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Capt. Nobody said on 12/Aug/16
Just so there is no question, here is a shot of their feet. I did a quickie PS job on Wilts right foot to get the obstruction out of the way.

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This should squash any idea that Andre is in front of Wilt. He's not.
Capt. Nobody said on 12/Aug/16
dicksock said on 11/Aug/16
So now Wilt is closer to the camera and Andre has only 1" of footwear advantage? Ah well, some people only see what they want to see. To help this page regain some semblance of reality, here is Andre at his tallest in equal footwear next to 6'2" Tony Atlas:
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Look at the feet, it's literally that easy. At the very least he's right in a straight line, no doubts now. His front foot is clearly in front of Andres.

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