vegas says on 18/Jun/13
apologies if this has been posted before but seeing as i met flair numerous times between 2000 and 2004 and he looked roughly 5'11 Click Here
LG69 says on 17/Jun/13
meant to say "9" taller"
LG69 says on 17/Jun/13
@davyyyyyyy, It looks like Bret is standing a bit closer to the camera than Andre, too. Bret is/was a solid 6'0 back in the day. With the shoes on, he's about 6'1". Andre in his barefeet appears about 9" in the photo. All things considered, a not prime Andre in that photo is at most 6'11".
davyyyyyyyy says on 16/Jun/13
In that Picture with Andre and Bret, Bret is standing wide but he has a better posture than Andre and a footwear advantage over Andre. Andre looks to me 6'11 at that picture.
The Ben says on 14/Jun/13
I've been watching a lot of late 80's wrestling recently and Andre looked 6'9 at the most.
Obviously he couldn't stand to his full height.
He looked lighter towards the end of his life as well.
Probably one of them people you have to see close up to appreciate their size.
larrat91 says on 13/Jun/13
andre in prime, taller than big show! andre must have been 7`3
Capt. Nobody says on 11/Jun/13
Chaz says on 8/Jun/13
Capt.Nobody,if you cannot see them big thick boots that Silva is having a job walking rownd in then there is no hope for you,they are just as think as Big Shows boots that everyone gos on about
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I was referring to the time I saw them in CMLL.
JT says on 10/Jun/13
homer says on 8/Jun/13
....So did Bret use his wide stance with Taker aswell?
No. Click Here Taker's posture looks a little more relaxed than Hart's too.
Some more examples of what tall really looks like next to wrestlers
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Click Here John Salley was listed at 6’11” and was probably around that height.
NCL says on 10/Jun/13
ReturnofG says on 7/Jun/13
Hey guys if you would pray for the family of my friend Sarah B. she passed away suddenly and today she would have been 33. I want be on for awhile but again please pray for my friends family.
Gladly said a prayer for you. A very brave thing to ask for prayer in a public setting such as this. I'm not sure what your beliefs are but I'm a Christian and again, gladly praying for your friend and family and you.
And I dig your height estimates!
Red183 says on 9/Jun/13
JT says on 7/Jun/13
Andre was barefoot in that pic with Bret Hart, but Hart assumed a wider than usual stance probably to help out Andre.
Still trying to make Andre shorter than he was?!
You really wanna tell us that Andre has better posture than Bret there? lol
ReturnofG says on 9/Jun/13
Thank you, Captain!
dicksock says on 8/Jun/13
ReturnofG says on 7/Jun/13
Hey guys if you would pray for the family of my friend Sarah B. she passed away suddenly and today she would have been 33. I want be on for awhile but again please pray for my friends family.
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I am truly sorry to read of your loss. I am not religious, so I will not lie to you and say that I will pray. But, I really do hope you can find a way to cope with your pain and I hope you and her family find a way to deal with her death. Honestly, I have had a friend of mine killed when we were in high school, so I know what it is like.
For now, Andre was as tall as you want him to be :)
Andre was 7'4"!
Most Sincerely,
DS
ReturnofG says on 8/Jun/13
Andre 7'1
Silva &'2
Show 7'0
Kurrgan 6'10
Nash 6'9
Jones 6'9-10
Kane, UT, Morgan 6'8
Khali 7'1
homer says on 8/Jun/13
JT says on 7/Jun/13 Click Here From his brother’s wedding in the 1970s.Andre was barefoot in that pic with Bret Hart, but Hart assumed a wider than usual stance probably to help out Andre. Click HereClick Here That’s Undertaker with Bret Hart. Click Here
So did Bret use his wide stance with Taker aswell?
Chaz says on 8/Jun/13
Capt.Nobody,if you cannot see them big thick boots that Silva is having a job walking rownd in then there is no hope for you,they are just as think as Big Shows boots that everyone gos on about,
ReturnofG says on 7/Jun/13
Hey guys if you would pray for the family of my friend Sarah B. she passed away suddenly and today she would have been 33. I want be on for awhile but again please pray for my friends family.
Capt. Nobody says on 7/Jun/13
Click Here
All this rubish about Silva being taller than Khali is crap, they are the same height,and that is with Silva haveing much thicker boots,and Nathan Jones was no taller than 6'9''I have seen him 2 times in Scotland,he was not much Taller than Ben Plucknet,and if you dont know who that is look up the name,
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First time I ever saw Giant Singh was when I was flipping through channels one day and stopped on Mexican wrestling. He came out and went nose to nose with Silva, I'd say Silva had about an inch or so on him. I don't think there was a significant heel difference between the two.
miko says on 7/Jun/13
Khali: 7'1
Silva: 7'0.5
Big Show: 6'11.5/7'0
Andre: 6'10.5
Nash: 6'9/6'9.25
Jones: 6'9
Morgan: 6'8.5/6'8.75
Kurgan: 6'8
dicksock says on 7/Jun/13
ReturnofG says on 7/Jun/13
If Jones is just 6'9 than this shows a well below 6'9 Morgan. Click Here
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I don't know what you're looking at, but every single part of that clip where they stood together, they looked virtually the same height.
JT says on 7/Jun/13
Click Here From his brother’s wedding in the 1970s.
Andre was barefoot in that pic with Bret Hart, but Hart assumed a wider than usual stance probably to help out Andre. Click Here
Click Here That’s Undertaker with Bret Hart. Click Here
Click Here For comparison, it looks like Nash has a clear head size on Hart, which is why I don’t think Hart was a legit 6’0”. If he was, Nash does look 6'10" there back in the mid-1990s. Jerry Lawler is around 5’10”.
ReturnofG, the original pic Goodridge posted with Khali and Silva is tilted in Silva's favor. So you want to rely on a tilted pic to try to prove your point?
ReturnofG says on 7/Jun/13
If Jones is just 6'9 than this shows a well below 6'9 Morgan. Click Here
ReturnofG says on 7/Jun/13
Since the first time that pick was shown it has been tilted in Khali favor and who is also closer to camera too.
Halb says on 6/Jun/13
Close to 7 feet and weighing 390 was also similar to André's size in the Wepner fight, which is what Sly was seeking to emulate.
dicksock says on 6/Jun/13
Capt. Nobody says on 5/Jun/13
Iconjj says on 5/Jun/13
Click Here
Everyone talks about how Big Show has the height advantage over Andre in the Big Bill photos, well here's a twist, using Bret Hart. Debate away.
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Andre in wrestling boots I take it as well? Whats the difference in footwear between Andre and Kurggan?
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Andre was barefoot in the picture with Bret.
Iconjj says on 6/Jun/13
dicksock says on 5/Jun/13
Iconjj says on 5/Jun/13
Click Here
Everyone talks about how Big Show has the height advantage over Andre in the Big Bill photos, well here's a twist, using Bret Hart. Debate away.
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Did you take Bret's inch of footwear advantage over (barefoot) Andre into consideration? Kurrgan is probably a solid 6'8" and Andre was a solid 6'10" at that time and 6'11" in his prime.
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Actually DS, I was being generous to Kurrgan, considering Bret had the footwear advantage AND his posture was straighter in the Andre pic....I figured if I didn't even the two Brets up together as much as possible, the Andre 6'9 posters would start a holy war. They would swear it's camera tricks/Bret lost 8 inches in height/Andre was on a ladder/Kurrgan was sitting/etc.etc.
JT says on 6/Jun/13
In fairness to Silva, he could stand taller in that pic with Khali but I still think they are around the same height (~7'1").
Not as good but another pic of Silva and Khali Click Here
Click Here Click Here Both Silva and kurrgan had dress shoes on. 6’6” John Tenta wore wrestling boots with very thin soles so 6’9” is unlikely for Kurrgan and there's zero chance of 6'10".
Kurrgan does not look any taller than Oscar Schmidt (No. 14) did next to silva. Click Here Schmidt is usually listed at 6’8”, including on his website, although he can look a little taller in some pics.
boss says on 6/Jun/13
Here is an interesting article.
The ring in which Thunderlips and Rocky fight featured the standard modifications used in professional wrestling; half-inch padding under the canvas, shock absorbers under the plywood and slightly loosened ropes.
The fight sequence between Rocky and Thunderlips took 10 days to film.
Thunderlips (Hulk Hogan) is billed at a height of 7 feet despite Hogan only being 6'6''. This was because in the first two films, Rocky was billed as 6'1'', whereas Sylvester Stallone is only 5'10''. Because Hogan is genuinely 8 inches taller than Stallone, to maintain the illusion that Rocky was over 6 foot tall, Thunderlips had to be billed as being taller than the actor portraying him.
vegas says on 6/Jun/13
ReturnofG says on 5/Jun/13
Also if Khali is 7'1 than how can Silva just be 7'1 when he is clearly taller of the two
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did you even look at the shot JT posted of silva and khali the other day and khali is stating 7 foot for his height (not 7'1-7'3 like he used to) more and more in interviews these days Click Here
silva was listed ~7'1 in the olympics in his late 20s so how can you can estimate him to be 7'2??
referencing a movie where kurrgan played a character listed as being 8 feet tall shows desperation, thats like me using the green mile to show how tall MCD is... off camera shots have already been posted and nash did not look shorter in them
there is nothing in that kane/kurrgan video to compare anyway kurrgans boots look quite suspect at 3mins 30secs, there is a video of silva and kurrgan side by side in the ring in dress-shoes and silva clearly 4+ inches taller, given you are using big show as a reference here is morgan in a staredown with big show in 2005 @ 7mins 30seconds Click Here
chaz, nathan jones was listed 6'9 in his one and only mma match so he wasn't taller than that
Chaz says on 6/Jun/13
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All this rubish about Silva being taller than Khali is crap, they are the same height,and that is with Silva haveing much thicker boots,and Nathan Jones was no taller than 6'9''I have seen him 2 times in Scotland,he was not much Taller than Ben Plucknet,and if you dont know who that is look up the name,
ReturnofG says on 6/Jun/13
Kurrgan vs Kane Click Here
Kane vs Big Show Click Here
Kane in lifts Both Big Show and Kurrgan well taller BS and Kurrgan have a little more than an inch between them.
dicksock says on 5/Jun/13
Iconjj says on 5/Jun/13
Click Here
Everyone talks about how Big Show has the height advantage over Andre in the Big Bill photos, well here's a twist, using Bret Hart. Debate away.
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Did you take Bret's inch of footwear advantage over (barefoot) Andre into consideration? Kurrgan is probably a solid 6'8" and Andre was a solid 6'10" at that time and 6'11" in his prime.
ReturnofG says on 5/Jun/13
Also VVegas take the favoring tilt out Robert is clearly taller of the two!
ReturnofG says on 5/Jun/13
I've seen the two side by side and Robert was taller than Mane, just as monster brawl showed him taller than Nash. It is pure laughable to think 6'8 Morgan is as tall muchless taller than Robert. Plus 7'2 Silva wore thick soled boots and was never 5 inches on Robert. Also if Khali is 7'1 than how can Silva just be 7'1 when he is clearly taller of the two. I bet a peak Kane and UT would be Matts height. Plus Robert was at least 2 inches on Kane when Kane wore his monster soles. 6'10 Maillet, 6'8 Morgan case closed send the jury home.
Capt. Nobody says on 5/Jun/13
Iconjj says on 5/Jun/13
Click Here
Everyone talks about how Big Show has the height advantage over Andre in the Big Bill photos, well here's a twist, using Bret Hart. Debate away.
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Andre in wrestling boots I take it as well? Whats the difference in footwear between Andre and Kurggan?
Capt. Nobody says on 5/Jun/13
boss says on 4/Jun/13
Wilt's thin moccasins look like they've got some pretty big heels in this color pic which gives you a better look at Wilt's footware for the movie.
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Pointed it out quite awhile back myself. They are actually boots. Not super thick heels but boots nonetheless.
JT says on 5/Jun/13
Click Here ~ 6'11" Peter Mayhew could stand a little taller but 6’8” Tyler Mane seems to measure up every bit as well next to him as Kurrgan did Click Here
7'1" Giant Silva had around 5 inches on Kurrgan, so 6’8” seems right for him. IMO Kurrgan and Mane would be about the same height, with Matt Morgan maybe a shade taller and Nash a little taller than Morgan.
Iconjj says on 5/Jun/13
Click Here
Everyone talks about how Big Show has the height advantage over Andre in the Big Bill photos, well here's a twist, using Bret Hart. Debate away.
vegas says on 5/Jun/13
kurrgan doesn't look 6'10+ with ian whyte and peter mayhew, he doesn't look 6'10+ with mamun in full length shots, he doesn't look 6'10+ or 3 inches taller than morgan next to the same guy who claims 5'10 Click Here
please post footage of kurrgan being 2 inches taller than mane
ReturnofG says on 5/Jun/13
If Robert Maillet is just 6'8 than I guess we have also a confirmed 6'6.5 Kevin Nash and a 6'5 Matt morgan. After meeting Robert I believe he is around 6'10 or better. At Charlotte Con he was taller than Tyler Mane by around two inches. Matt Morgan was about 6'8 a peak Nash would be close to 6'10 he and Nathan Jones were taller than Matt Morgan. Boss exactly!
boss says on 4/Jun/13
Wilt's thin moccasins look like they've got some pretty big heels in this color pic which gives you a better look at Wilt's footware for the movie.
Click Here
JT says on 4/Jun/13
Goodridge looks around 3 inches shorter than Bob Sapp, who IIRC measured 6'4.25" for the NFL combine Click Here so he's probably 6'1" or a little over. Khali with a somewhat relaxed posture looks at least 7'2" if Goodridge is 6'3" so even 6'2" for this guy is likely out of the question.
vegas says on 4/Jun/13
goodridge looked about 2-2.5 inches shorter than ~6'4 measured bob sapp (both barefoot), was also listed 186cm in that match which is probably his real height, looks taller next to khali e.g than cena did
great photos again roel and JT, that khali/silva one is very interesting and shows that khali isn't 2-3 inches shorter than silva like one or two on here claimed and further confirms that kurrgan is not taller than 6'8
GST says on 4/Jun/13
Goodridge is 6'1 at most. He was maybe an inch taller than MMA legend Fedor when they fought & Fedor was measured at 5'11.75
GodFather JR says on 4/Jun/13
@JT
Garry GoodRidge Is 6'1 At best in most of his fight listing.
I'm 6 Foot 1/2 Barefoot & He Looked Barly 6'1 When I trained With In him in Barrie Ontario.
Red 183 says on 3/Jun/13
JT says on 3/Jun/13
Valentine is around 5'10" ...
Agree, but tell me something about their footwear in that pic.
The way Greg stands looks like he´s in cowboyboots to me.
legit 5´7" I´m not sure about, but 5´6.5" I see for Takahashi.
6´5"-6´5.5" Hogan is closer to the camera but looks exact one head taller. I don´t think Hogans head is taller than 10.5", more like 10"max.
JT says on 3/Jun/13
Not directly Andre-related but here’s an interesting photo of arm wrestler and MMA fighter Gary Goodridge with Great Khali and Giant Silva. Click Here
Goodridge is listed pretty much at 6’3”, or around the height of King Kong Bundy or Ted DiBiase if you want to make a rough comparison of these two with Andre. Not sure if he’s a legit 6’3” but he is still looks pretty tall next to guys like Scott Norton, who seemed at least 6’2” in WCW Click Here and Cleve Dean, who was a huge arm wrestling champ and usually referred to as 6’6” or 6’7”. Click Here Click Here
Takahashi does not look 5'7" next to Valentine and Superstar Billy Graham, both of whom I've seen up close. Valentine is around 5'10" and Graham around 6'1". He could maybe eke out 5'6" but that's about all I'd give him.
RoelC says on 3/Jun/13
Seeing as Jorge Gonzalez doesn't have his own page, I thought I post it here.
Click Here
Here's a picture of a 19-year old Jorge Gonzalez next to a 17-year old Fernando Borcel. Apparently Borcel was listed at 215cm (7' 2/3") and Gonzalez at 222cm (7'3.5") at the time (1985).
Standing next to a beanpole like Borcel, it shows how big Gonzalez really was.
Red 183 says on 2/Jun/13
Takahashi looks near 5´7" to me, 5´5" is too low for him
Danimal says on 2/Jun/13
Halb says on 30/May/13
Studd doesn't have 2 inches on Fralic in that Vid.
Yes he does.
JT says on 31/May/13
Not quite sure who this person is next to Andre. Per his blog, he’s Mr. Takahashi.
Click Here (1974)
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He looks in the 5’5” or so range with other wrestlers. I think this is a young Greg Valentine, who was around 5’10”
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chi-town says on 31/May/13
Show the video where Fralic is standing on his toes that you can see that action.
boss says on 31/May/13
Andre with 6'6 Buddy Baker
Nascar driver.
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boss says on 31/May/13
A GIANT LOSS
(Los Angeles Times, Sunday, Mar. 7, 1993)
By Chris Dufresne
Andre was born in Grenoble, France, spoke fluent French
and wolfed down seven-course gourmet meals as though
they were appetizers. He washed it all down with vats of
expensive Burgundy but, in the end, his own country could
not accommodate him.
The phone call, from France, rang at the Ellerbe ranch. The
voice insisted there was not a crematorium large enough to
handle The Giant, who was 6 feet 10 and 555 pounds when
he died.
In the final months, The Giant moved with great difficulty,
having buckled under his own weight. He suffered from
acromegaly, or "giantism," a disease in which the body
secretes large amounts of the growth hormone, causing
continual growth to the head, hands and feet. Andre the
Giant, who towered above most at nearly 7 feet, walked with
a stoop near the end. He had undergone surgery in 1986 to
relieve pressure to his weakened spine. To perform the
procedure, surgeons in England had to construct oversized
instruments.
Terry Funk, a pro wrestling great, toured Japan with Andre
last November.
"He was in a great deal of pain by then," Funk remembered.
Andre had shown Funk the X-rays of his recent knee
surgeries.
"They had taken out huge chunks of bone," Funk said. "I
mean chunks."
Halb says on 30/May/13
Studd doesn't have 2 inches on Fralic in that Vid.
LG69 says on 30/May/13
@k, You must be new to this website, because most have ruled out Andre at 7'4" a looong time ago. That's really not even the question for most on here. The debate is generally if Andre peaked at 7' or less. Btw, Andre wore boots and sneakers...not just boots.
miko says on 30/May/13
Andre 6'10.5 range and Paul Wight 6'11.5/7'0.
Danimal says on 30/May/13
boss says on 25/May/13
Andre was 7' peak and lost 2 or so inches over his life due to his condition and his very bad posture. Andre was measured at 6'10 7/8 when he died in France.
There is no evidence of your "claim".
Chaz says on 29/May/13
yes that is right JT,but you have to be 100% in knowing were he's head is under that hair,because he's forhead is less than 1/3 of the total lenth of he's face,it's not even 3.5''that is the same as me with a 9.5'' face, all the rest is mostly chin,what most are doing is claming someone is 6' when realy they dont know for sure,how tall they are, useing photos that are made to make Andre look 7'+,but when you have Andre with Shoemaker were you know for sure the mans height,it's a diffetant matter,you can work out the total height of Andre with hair and boots is just over 7'1'',and no 6'5'' persons should come up to Andre's eyes,they should be down by he's nose,if he is 7'
Capt. Nobody says on 29/May/13
Iconjj says on 28/May/13
Just for shoots and giggles, I done up some new Andre-Paul Wight comparison photos: Click Here
Looks pretty close to me....as usual.
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Just nailing that coffin even more shut than it already was. They are right around the same area in height.
Capt. Nobody says on 29/May/13
Chaz says on 28/May/13
Ali Baba I have been telling everyone that on this sight for 4 years,they keep saying he had a 12''head when he had a 12''face,with a short forhead,the acromegalic elongation adds nothing to he's height,unless you put he's jaw on top of he's head lol.Hogan and studd come over he's eyes,thats way too much for a real 7 footer,Hogan should come up to the nose,on a real 7 footer not over he's eyes,he's just too short to have been 7, look at him next to Shoemaker way too short,I will say this one more time,a head is measured from the knape to the top of the head,not from the chin to the top or the head.
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Face/head, does it really matter? If you take someone from the point that they come up to on Andre and estimate that the overall length of his face/head is 12 inches or thereabouts then you have your measuring stick period, end of story. If someone comes up below Andres chin, that's 12 inches shorter than Andre in that particular situation. Once again, I wouldn't say any individual shot is entirely conclusive, it's still all about finding Andre at his tallest possible while in the best posture possible since this is a question of peak height.
k says on 28/May/13
if Andre really was 7 ft barefoot
why would he have a need to wear cow boy boots?
why does he have to stand closer to the camera in the wilt photos?
we can rule out, it is most definite andre was not 7 ft 4
JT says on 28/May/13
Chaz, the jaw counts towards the overall length of the head although I agree that acromegaly adds little if any height to the top part of the head, where it counts. Instead, you normally get jaw elongation and a protruded brow. The distance from the bottom of Andre’s chin to the top of his head was around 12 inches, making it pretty easy to estimate his height especially when the person standing next to Andre comes up to the bottom of his chin (e.g., Bruno Sammartino).
Andre and self-proclaimed 6’3” Cowboy Bill Watts standing next to the same wrestling promoters Click Here and an almost identical cinder block wall. Click Here Andre’s on his tippy-toes in the first pic. Watts wore boots with what looked like some decent heels so he’ll have the footwear advantage.
YouTube used to have a video of Watts likely in cowboy boots interviewing Andre after a match and the lack of significant height difference was apparent.
It would be interesting if there are any pics of Andre standing next to Grizzly Smith (Jake Roberts’ father) as he looks 6'7"-6’8” with Watts. Click Here
Iconjj says on 28/May/13
Just for shoots and giggles, I done up some new Andre-Paul Wight comparison photos: Click Here
Looks pretty close to me....as usual.
Chaz says on 28/May/13
Ali Baba I have been telling everyone that on this sight for 4 years,they keep saying he had a 12''head when he had a 12''face,with a short forhead,the acromegalic elongation adds nothing to he's height,unless you put he's jaw on top of he's head lol.Hogan and studd come over he's eyes,thats way too much for a real 7 footer,Hogan should come up to the nose,on a real 7 footer not over he's eyes,he's just too short to have been 7, look at him next to Shoemaker way too short,I will say this one more time,a head is measured from the knape to the top of the head,not from the chin to the top or the head.
Ali Baba says on 27/May/13
boss says on 25/May/13
Also Andre makes alot of height up in his head alone considering it is 4 or more inches longer than an average male head. Where Wilt and other basketball players are all legs which makes them look taller until you reach the tops of their heads. Andre makes the inches up he loses from the legs from the inches he gains in the upper body and head.
The problem with that is that when you have Giantism it doesn't make the top of your head higher. It makes your face longer by elongating the jaw. While his head was large he didn't gain near as much height from it as you would think.
boss says on 25/May/13
Andre was 7' peak and lost 2 or so inches over his life due to his condition and his very bad posture. Andre was measured at 6'10 7/8 when he died in France. The medical examiners had to measure him to see if he would fit in the crematorium. Andre was too big and had to be shipped back to the USA to be cremated. Look at some of these early Andre photos compared to some 90's Andre photos. There is a big difference. Also Andre makes alot of height up in his head alone considering it is 4 or more inches longer than an average male head. Where Wilt and other basketball players are all legs which makes them look taller until you reach the tops of their heads. Andre makes the inches up he loses from the legs from the inches he gains in the upper body and head. If Andre was standing with the same posture as the person he is standing next too he would look taller. Try using the cake photos or photos where you can see Andre's neck when comparing him in pics.
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Wrstlefan1 says on 23/May/13
Follow this link to the Studd and Fralic interview, as i said i remmbered before Studd clearly has 2 inches or more on Fralic the entire interview until they get face to face at the end because Fralic stood on his toes to look as tall as possible! Anyone who tries to say otherwise is just ignoring the plain truth before them.
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LG69 says on 21/May/13
@JT, Ralph Sampson was always listed at 7'4", but was known to be about 2" less. In fact, there is a video on YT where 7'4" Mark Eaton was asked by Chick Hearn if Sampson was as tall as him. Eaton said Sampson is "about 7'1"
RoelC says on 21/May/13
RoelC says on 18/May/13
Wrstlfan1 says on 17/May/13
I watched a few interviews and matches with him and Studd, Fralic was always standing on his toes, he wanted to level up to Studd and was off his heels every time they were face to face.
Wrstlefan1 says on 20/May/13
I said in interviews and matches, never did i say of the two together!
Your direct quote was: “I watched a few interviews and matches with him and Studd, Fralic was always standing on his toes, he wanted to level up to Studd and was off his heels every time they were face to face”. So you’re clearly implying you saw matches/interviews of the two together.
Fralic never wrestled any type of schedule in the WWE and his participation at Wrestlemania II was a one-night deal only. Again there are websites out there that list past WWE results in a highly detailed manner, and that includes interview segments. You’re flat out making stuff up when you claim Fralic and Studd had done more interviews together in the WWF than the one we saw at Wrestlemania II.
And there has also never been posted a picture on this board of the staredown between Studd & Fralic, which showed Fralic was standing on his tippy toes. I’m sure other long-time posters can back me up on that one.
JT says on 20/May/13
Dan Spivey looks every bit as tall next to Fralic as John Studd did, and Spivey was listed at 6'6" for college football. Click Here
Not directly Andre related but here’s a pretty interesting photo of what a 6’5”-6’6” guy (Jamaal Wilkes) looks like with legitimate 6’11” and 7’1” guys. Click Here That’s not exactly what Andre looked like next to Hogan, Blackjack Mulligan, John Studd.... Sampson was listed at 7’4” but was really around Kareem’s peak height of 7’2”. Both look to have lost about an inch in height since then. Walton was around 7’1” but has lost around 2 inches in height after 30 + surgeries on his ankles, feet, and back.
Here’s a recent pic of Roddy Piper and Pat Ewing, who’s around 6’11”. Click Here Piper’s really shrunk (around 3 inches) and Ewing's really put on weight. I think that’s hockey player Mark Messier also in the photo.
chi-town says on 20/May/13
Many places Kareem is listed at 7'2, as the article pointed out he was measured in the 7'1 one range. show a video or article where he was measured 7'3 barefoot.... As for Wilt yes without a doubt his official listing is 7'1. In some pics he looks around 6'11 next to a 7'1 range Kareem...
And yes if Kareem does prove to be 7'2 barefoot, then he would be 7'3 in shoes.
chi-town says on 20/May/13
Was talking about Kareem in that particular statement and referring to a certain article about Kareem Abdul Jabar being measured in the 7'1 range and the 7'2 range. But more accurately was in the 7'1 range.
dicksock says on 20/May/13
Wrstlefan1 says on 20/May/13
RoelC says;
None of us remember that because it never happened. When you start claiming Fralic & Studd had matches together know this: there are websites out there that pretty accurately list WWF match results from the past. In 1986 Fralic only appeared in the WWF once, and that was during Wrestlemania II. He didn't appear in the WWF again until July 1993, when he participated in a bodyslam challenge with Yokozuna. So you see, your lies are easily exposed.
Wow, easy there pal maybe you should find some peace in your life LOL. I said in interviews and matches, never did i say of the two together! Fralic stodd on his tipee toes every time he was doing interviews for the WWF, it was brought up years ago on a web page (probably this one) and proven with a photo from the staredown with Studd that Fralic was on his toes. So easy there pal, and you should go get some facts straight before calling people liars.
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He called you a liar because you are a liar. Stop with the inner peace bs just because he called you out on your lies. I'm sure everyone here was thinking the same thing, it's just he was the only one who bothered to call you out on it. It has never been proven that Fralic was standing on his tip toes. That was just a baseless theory dreamed up by someone on this page who, like you, couldn't come to terms with the fact that Studd, and by extension, the majority of other pro wrestlers aren't nearly as tall as they are billed. I've never seen Fralic in any other WWF interviews either.
Wrstlefan1 says on 20/May/13
RoelC says;
None of us remember that because it never happened. When you start claiming Fralic & Studd had matches together know this: there are websites out there that pretty accurately list WWF match results from the past. In 1986 Fralic only appeared in the WWF once, and that was during Wrestlemania II. He didn't appear in the WWF again until July 1993, when he participated in a bodyslam challenge with Yokozuna. So you see, your lies are easily exposed.
Wow, easy there pal maybe you should find some peace in your life LOL. I said in interviews and matches, never did i say of the two together! Fralic stodd on his tipee toes every time he was doing interviews for the WWF, it was brought up years ago on a web page (probably this one) and proven with a photo from the staredown with Studd that Fralic was on his toes. So easy there pal, and you should go get some facts straight before calling people liars.
dicksock says on 20/May/13
chi-town says on 19/May/13
Well the point I made in the first place is he is in the 7'1 range barefoot and the 7'2 barefoot measurement they were wishy washy about in the article. 3/8ths or 5/8ths Kareem according to that article was still in the 7'1 range through the second measurement ceremony. 7'1 range barefoot and 7'2 range with shoes on.
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Wilt's doctor has gone on record stating that he has personally measured him at 7'1" and 1/16" and most people thought Wilt was 7'3"-7'4". Everyone in the world knows Wilt to have been 7'1". So you're wrong; deal with it.
chi-town says on 19/May/13
Well the point I made in the first place is he is in the 7'1 range barefoot and the 7'2 barefoot measurement they were wishy washy about in the article. 3/8ths or 5/8ths Kareem according to that article was still in the 7'1 range through the second measurement ceremony. 7'1 range barefoot and 7'2 range with shoes on.
Freddy says on 19/May/13
JT says on 17/May/13
Freddy, the actual height of a standard cinder block is 7 5/8", with the mortar in between giving an effective height of 8" (at least that's the goal). The bottom line is that it's not a scientific way to nail down a guy's height, especially when the camera is looking up at the person.
I agree JT but myself being a bricklayer, mortar can get to close to an inch as well, unless using a direct stick glue which would gives no Inbetween gap at all. Personally myself meeting Andre in 83, gave me a strong impression of being a 7 footer+. When I shook his hand, I practically lost my hand lol, even scarier is when he spoke. Never forgot that day. One of my neighbours is 7'1 and a well known basketballer here looks pretty much the same height as Andre did when I met him.. So I'm going with my 7' + estimation with him.
Logic says on 18/May/13
JT says on 16/May/13
I posted this one a while back of Studd and Christopher Reeve, whom Rob has at 6’4”. Click Here After I corrected the camera tilt (which originally favored Reeve), Studd looks around 3 inches taller.
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Penn Jillette and John Studd would have probably been close to the same height. Rob has Jillette's height listed at 6'6.5".
Penn Jillette and Christopher Reeve.
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Penn Jillette and singer Trace Adkins..... Rob has Adkins at 6'6" and Jillette is clearly the taller of the two.
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Penn Jillette with the wrestler Kane
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LG69 says on 18/May/13
@Freddy, i found out that it's 7 5/8" for the blocks but with the mortar in between, you get 8".
RoelC says on 18/May/13
Wrstlfan1 says on 17/May/13
Something none of you seem to remember or know about Fralic when he was in the WWF. I watched a few interviews and matches with him and Studd, Fralic was always standing on his toes, he wanted to level up to Studd and was off his heels every time they were face to face. That would make him look 2-3 inches taller. Everything else proves Studd was 6'7" minimum.
None of us remember that because it never happened. When you start claiming Fralic & Studd had matches together know this: there are websites out there that pretty accurately list WWF match results from the past. In 1986 Fralic only appeared in the WWF once, and that was during Wrestlemania II. He didn't appear in the WWF again until July 1993, when he participated in a bodyslam challenge with Yokozuna. So you see, your lies are easily exposed.
@GST, the segment with Fralic & Studd was shot in the arena itself. If you look closely you can see the audience in the background (on the DVD at least). And both Studd & Fralic are wearing the same pants they wore during the match. So it's pretty far-fetched to be claiming they switched footwear inbetween.
RoelC says on 18/May/13
chi-town says on 17/May/13
Well officially they said and more accurate measurement was 7'1 3/8 and not 7'2 which was inaccurate and nothing about 7'3. although that would be cool if he grew to 7'3 over the years. 7'1 3/8ths barefoot for Kareem(Alcindor) 7'2 in shoes. guess that's one of the reasons Bruce Lee chose him to play the unknown in "Game of Death" and he was a student. Kareem truly a 7 footer.
No they said 7'1 5/8" was the more accurate measurement. 7'1 3/8" was an older listing, and the article clearly states that he was measured a quarter of an inch over that mark. Considering he was also measured at 7'2", I'd say 7'2" barefoot is closer to the truth for Kareem, than 7'1" is.
Chaz says on 18/May/13
in the Game of death Kareem was said to be 7'3'',the 7'1 3/8 amd 7'2 '' are just normal height gain and lose over the day,same with Wilt and the 7'.5'',and 7'1.1''measurments,and the more weight you have and height the bigger the lose over the day,
Wrstlfan1 says on 17/May/13
Something none of you seem to remember or know about Fralic when he was in the WWF. I watched a few interviews and matches with him and Studd, Fralic was always standing on his toes, he wanted to level up to Studd and was off his heels every time they were face to face. That would make him look 2-3 inches taller. Everything else proves Studd was 6'7" minimum.
Kunoitchi says on 17/May/13
Height of "Kototenzan" Johon Tenta was 196cm in japan sumo era.
It was there at the time of 194cm sometimes.
Since contains chignon is the nominal height of sumo Furthermore, it is lower height actually.
Capt. Nobody says on 17/May/13
Iconjj says on 16/May/13
I can tell you where they went wrong on the statue; the upper body is too long...
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JT says on 17/May/13
Freddy, the actual height of a standard cinder block is 7 5/8", with the mortar in between giving an effective height of 8" (at least that's the goal). The bottom line is that it's not a scientific way to nail down a guy's height, especially when the camera is looking up at the person.
chi-town says on 17/May/13
Well officially they said and more accurate measurement was 7'1 3/8 and not 7'2 which was inaccurate and nothing about 7'3. although that would be cool if he grew to 7'3 over the years. 7'1 3/8ths barefoot for Kareem(Alcindor) 7'2 in shoes. guess that's one of the reasons Bruce Lee chose him to play the unknown in "Game of Death" and he was a student. Kareem truly a 7 footer.
GST says on 17/May/13
@bull**** - the Fralic/Studd vid is not a good video to use due to the fact we cannot see their footwear. Also, those vigenettes were shot hours, sometimes days, before the matches took place which means since they were not immediately headed to the ring after the interview, they (one or both) could be wearing cowboy boots, sneakers, wrestling boots or even be barefoot.
Freddy says on 16/May/13
JT says on 14/May/13
Vegas, I think RoelC was the one who posted the Studd-Rick Barry photo. 6'7" Barry looked a clear inch taller than Studd. Click Here
Regarding the size of the Andre statue, WWE did go with the exaggerated billing
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LG69 says on 3/May/13
A couple of years ago--based on the Andre and Bob Backlund photo-- i posted some comments here about the clear evidence of a 7 foot Andre. My niece's husband, a mason by trade, and i were discussing Andre's height based on the "standard 8" blocks" seen in the background of the photo. Andre was just slightly past the 10.5 blocks--bottom block was roughly 4"(half size). He told me that you can clearly see Andre's "slightly above the 7 foot" height. Andre's very thin wrestling shoes were 1/2" at most, so if you subtract that Andre was either 7 foot even or 6'11 3/4".
LG69, you’re probably late to the game around here or just forgot. As Rob’s middle diagram explains Click Here a person always looks taller next to objects behind them when the camera is below the level of their head.
From that low an angle, everyone gets a boost by around 3-4 inches over their height in shoes
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For what it’s worth, matching up the cinder blocks in the Andre/Backlund and Gonzalez and Big Show pics yields:
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Is that including the mortar in between????? I don't think the blocks are just sitting there with nothing in between... Are you accounting for that with your 8" cinder blocks?
bullshit says on 16/May/13
At the end of the video when they come nose to nose, you can clearly see that studd is not taller than fralic... they're equal at best. Studd 6'4 1/2 peak
JT says on 16/May/13
I posted this one a while back of Studd and Christopher Reeve, whom Rob has at 6’4”. Click Here After I corrected the camera tilt (which originally favored Reeve), Studd looks around 3 inches taller. We can’t see the footwear though and Studd might be a little closer to the camera, which he looks with Rick Barry as well. Barry was wearing b-ball shoes in the pic with Studd. Click Here Studd probably had similar shoes on since they were taking part in a celebrity harness racing event and walking around in the dirt.
LG69, Andre “comes out” around 7’1” based on the cinder block wall behind him. Click Here Big Show comes out around 7’4” Click Here but is probably wearing b-ball shoes whereas Andre has thin-soled shoes.
Back in the 1980s, I stood right next to Greg Valentine, who was wearing cowboy boots and I could easily see over the top of his head. I’m 6’4”, which would put him at around 5’10” barefoot. Going by the cinder block wall behind him, he’s 6’2” in wrestling boots, or around 4 inches taller than his barefoot height. Click Here I believed the billed wrestling heights back then (Valentine was billed 6'1') and this really opened my eyes about how inflated these listings were.
dicksock says on 16/May/13
Chaz says on 15/May/13
Studd looks the same height as Barry to me he's just not stading fully upright,he's chin is forward like Giant haystacks,head not in line with he's back,allso he as much more height on Hogan than 6'5.75'' John Tenta,so something is wrong,
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Actually, Tenta was listed at 6'5.95" (6'6"). I don't think Studd more than an inch on Hogan. At times, they could look virtually the same height.
I think the truth is:
Hogan: 6'5.5"
Tenta: 6'5.95" (6'6")
Fralic: 6'5"
Studd: 6'6.5"
Andre: 6'11"
Iconjj says on 16/May/13
I can tell you where they went wrong on the statue; the upper body is too long...
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RoelC says on 16/May/13
chi-town says on 14/May/13
Well I've heard 7'1 to 7'2 for Kareem officially and some people have him at 7'3 to 7'4 on here. He is listed 7'2 every where, 7'1 barefoot and 7'2 in shoes...
He was measured at 7'1 5/8" barefoot during a physical examination in September 1969. They claim they even measured him at 7'2" once.
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Show me an official listing of Kareem at 7'1". Seeing as you insist Wilt is no taller than 6'11" based on a listing at age 15, I reckon you're doing the same with Kareem, who hasn't been listed below 7'1" since age 17.
RoelC says on 16/May/13
Capt. Nobody says on 14/May/13
Look at the top of their heads, not where their eyes are. Subtract Barrys hat first.
I always look at the top of their heads Capt. Nobody. But in this particular pic it's a little difficult, considering Barry is wearing a hat and Studd has a big mop of poofy hair. But if we use Photoshop we can come up with something like this. Click Here
Studd is still looking an inch shorter than Barry. You can talk about Barry's hat all you want, but Studd's hair adds quite a bit of height to him aswell.
In the first picture of Fralic & Studd, Studd is standing pretty straight. If you don't think so, than show me a picture of Studd where he is, cause then I haven't seen one. And Studd ain't bald either in that video with Fralic.
LG69 says on 15/May/13
@JT, I had never seen that diagram that Rob posted in the past. I can understand why someone would appear taller from that lower camera angle, but 3-4" seems a stretch. So, based on those numbers Andre would only be about 6'8" or 6'9" which we know is too low.
dicksock says on 15/May/13
The difference between Studd and Fralic in both size and height was very similar to the difference between Rob and Brian Blessed:
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Plus, I don't quite see an inch between Studd and the basketball player. Perhaps half an inch.
ReturnofG says on 15/May/13
Sorry JT but there is no way a pic Andre would be shorter than a peak Big Show muchless an aged Big Show. Plus your pics don't even add up right because going by those pics Hogan and Flair from the 70s and early 80s are shorter than they were in the mid to late 90s. Plus isn't Trace ike 6'7? Chuck was 6'5.
Chaz says on 15/May/13
Studd looks the same height as Barry to me he's just not stading fully upright,he's chin is forward like Giant haystacks,head not in line with he's back,allso he as much more height on Hogan than 6'5.75'' John Tenta,so something is wrong,
chi-town says on 14/May/13
Definitely Red. Tyler looks around 6'6 1/2 next to Ali Baba.. Well I've heard 7'1 to 7'2 for Kareem officially and some people have him at 7'3 to 7'4 on here. He is listed 7'2 every where, 7'1 barefoot and 7'2 in shoes...
Capt. Nobody says on 14/May/13
Wrstlefan1 says on 14/May/13
Chi-town, you do realize that Kareem is over 7'3" tall right?
Red 183 says on 13/May/13
The Tyler Mane page should be interesting for Andre estimators
thx to Ali Baba
RoelC says on 13/May/13
vegas says on 11/May/13
JT already posted a shot of studd in his prime looking shorter than a 6'7 listed basketballer
Considering most here are still claiming 6'7" for Studd, here's that picture again: Click Here
The difference between 6'7" Rick Barry & Studd is bigger than the difference between Studd & Fralic.
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Studd ain't 6'7", more like 6'6" tops. The pic with Barry and the video footage with Fralic seems to confirm this.
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Look at the top of their heads, not where their eyes are. Subtract Barrys hat first. Basketball players always LOOK taller than someone who has more normal proportions that just happen to be much bigger than normal men. It's like the Andre/Wilt photos. Andre is actually a little taller than Wilt in some of the shots going by the top of their heads but because Wilt has such a smaller head he looks a lot taller.
If Studd stands tall, and you subtract Fralics hair, I see no issue with an up to two inch height difference.
GST says on 14/May/13
After seeing the Tyler Mane page pics with Ali Baba it makes old Andre appear no more than 6'10 when using Tyler Mane as a referrence point. I also doubt he lost 2 inches. Maybe 6'11.5 for peak Andre?
RoelC says on 14/May/13
Wrstlefan1 says on 14/May/13
Chi-town, you do realize that Kareem is over 7'3" tall right?
Then why was he listed at 7'2" throughout his career, and in his rookie years at 7'1.5"?
Danimal says on 14/May/13
Chuck says on 12/May/13
Danimal says on 10/May/13
chi-town says on 29/Apr/13
6'9 is just 3 inches away from 7'0 and wilt barefoot is between 6'11 and 7'0 barefoot.. Andre was wearing his custom 2 1/2 boots in those pics so that would put andre at around 6'11 1/2 to 7'0 1/2... Andre around 6'9 or 6'10. barefoot.
So now Wilt was 6'11". WHO ARE YOU? Downplaying everyone's height by 2". You remind me of a troll that used to be on here years ago. Can't remember his name.
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JT says on 14/May/13
Vegas, I think RoelC was the one who posted the Studd-Rick Barry photo. 6'7" Barry looked a clear inch taller than Studd. Click Here
Regarding the size of the Andre statue, WWE did go with the exaggerated billing
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LG69 says on 3/May/13
A couple of years ago--based on the Andre and Bob Backlund photo-- i posted some comments here about the clear evidence of a 7 foot Andre. My niece's husband, a mason by trade, and i were discussing Andre's height based on the "standard 8" blocks" seen in the background of the photo. Andre was just slightly past the 10.5 blocks--bottom block was roughly 4"(half size). He told me that you can clearly see Andre's "slightly above the 7 foot" height. Andre's very thin wrestling shoes were 1/2" at most, so if you subtract that Andre was either 7 foot even or 6'11 3/4".
LG69, you’re probably late to the game around here or just forgot. As Rob’s middle diagram explains Click Here a person always looks taller next to objects behind them when the camera is below the level of their head.
From that low an angle, everyone gets a boost by around 3-4 inches over their height in shoes
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For what it’s worth, matching up the cinder blocks in the Andre/Backlund and Gonzalez and Big Show pics yields:
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chi-town says on 14/May/13
Well those claims of 7 feet are wrong if 7'1 was true for Wilt, he would be the same height as Kareem who is 7'1 and going off the pics of Kareem and Wilt.. Wilt looks about 2 inches shorter... Seems basketball bills people's heights as well.
I'm talking 6'11 for Wilt barefoot, then they can claim his height as 7 foot in shoes, saw a 6'11 1/2 listing for him as well. 6'11 to 6'11 1/2 barefoot 7 to 7 1/2 with shoes on Kareem 7'1 barefoot 7'2 with shoes on.
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Red 183 says on 14/May/13
RoelC says on 13/May/13
The difference between 6'7" Rick Barry & Studd is bigger...
I don´t think Studd was 6´7", more like 6´6" or 6´6.5"tops but I don´t see a big difference regarding the top of their heads. Barry has just a much smaller head and face than Studd.
Wrstlefan1 says on 14/May/13
Chi-town, you do realize that Kareem is over 7'3" tall right?
Red 183 says on 13/May/13
The Tyler Mane page should be interesting for Andre estimators
thx to Ali Baba
RoelC says on 13/May/13
vegas says on 11/May/13
JT already posted a shot of studd in his prime looking shorter than a 6'7 listed basketballer
Considering most here are still claiming 6'7" for Studd, here's that picture again: Click Here
The difference between 6'7" Rick Barry & Studd is bigger than the difference between Studd & Fralic.
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Studd ain't 6'7", more like 6'6" tops. The pic with Barry and the video footage with Fralic seems to confirm this.
RoelC says on 13/May/13
chi-town says on 12/May/13
Wilt Chamberlain did have a 6'11 listing back in high School and in college before he got the 7'1 listing.... In looking at him with Kareem who is 7'1, Wilt looks about 2 inches shorter in some pics I've seen.
Wilt wasn't listed in college at 6'11". He was listed at that height when he entered Overbrook High School at age 15. In his final year (1955) he was listed at 7ft and was 18 years old Click Here
In Kansas University I've seen listings ranging from 7ft to 7ft2. In 1957 Wilt claimed he was a little over 7ft tall and still growing Click Here
So you're basing your whole claim on a highschool listing at age 15. You sound a lot like drummer777 who also keeps referring to that same highschool listing.
Chuck says on 12/May/13
Danimal says on 10/May/13
chi-town says on 29/Apr/13
6'9 is just 3 inches away from 7'0 and wilt barefoot is between 6'11 and 7'0 barefoot.. Andre was wearing his custom 2 1/2 boots in those pics so that would put andre at around 6'11 1/2 to 7'0 1/2... Andre around 6'9 or 6'10. barefoot.
So now Wilt was 6'11". WHO ARE YOU? Downplaying everyone's height by 2". You remind me of a troll that used to be on here years ago. Can't remember his name.
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ReturnofG says on 12/May/13
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chi-town says on 12/May/13
Studd's shoulders look higher than Fralic's, At the end of the video when they are nose to nose, there isn't an inch between them.... It would seem Fralic stepped off of his mark so he can show that Studd wasn't really 6'7 or 6'10. when Fralic is standing in the background it does give the impression that he is shorter.
chi-town says on 12/May/13
Wilt Chamberlain did have a 6'11 listing back in high School and in college before he got the 7'1 listing.... In looking at him with Kareem who is 7'1, Wilt looks about 2 inches shorter in some pics I've seen.
ReturnofG says on 11/May/13
Chi-town how can you not tell that Studd is taller by around 2 inches than Frolic?
vegas says on 11/May/13
JT already posted a shot of studd in his prime looking shorter than a 6'7 listed basketballer
Danimal says on 10/May/13
chi-town says on 29/Apr/13
6'9 is just 3 inches away from 7'0 and wilt barefoot is between 6'11 and 7'0 barefoot.. Andre was wearing his custom 2 1/2 boots in those pics so that would put andre at around 6'11 1/2 to 7'0 1/2... Andre around 6'9 or 6'10. barefoot.
So now Wilt was 6'11". WHO ARE YOU? Downplaying everyone's height by 2". You remind me of a troll that used to be on here years ago. Can't remember his name.
Danimal says on 10/May/13
dicksock says on 6/May/13
town says on 4/May/13
Studd wasnt even 6'5... check out the video of him and Fralic
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Fralic was 6'5" and Studd was at least an inch taller. That would have made him at least 6'6"; which is what he was listed at in high school basketball. Studd was 6'6"-6'7" in his prime: CASE CLOSED!
I concur!
dicksock says on 9/May/13
Jay says on 8/May/13
My question remains as to why would someone lie and say they were 6'7"? Why not go whole hog and say 6'10"? He was taller than a prime Hogan, Brody, Killer Kowalski, Ox Baker, Muligan, and OMG. All of whom were 6'4"- 6'6".
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Again, you are assuming he got these figures from Studd himself. Perhaps, these were just his own estimates? Also, even if the 6'7" figure came from Studd's mouth, that doesn't mean it's true. I've known plenty of normal-sized regular people who added an inch to their height or rounded up to the nearest inch. But again, I doubt very much that Studd claimed 6'7" for himself and especially 6'10" for Andre. It is obvious that there was more than 3" between Studd and Andre. When Studd was with the Executioners, he was, along with Kowalski, billed at 6'6" and was dwarfed by Andre by what seemed like 5". Studd didn't appear taller than Kowalski either. Perhaps he wore lifts during his singles career? His big hair made him look taller as well.
Chaz says on 9/May/13
to be fair to Studd he is not standing upright in that fralic film and he's traps push he's head down,back of he's head is not in line with he's back,and he's chins forword,he's body is allso much longer than Fralic,could of been 200cm,
chi-town says on 8/May/13
If Fralic is 6'4 3/4 barefoot from that video, then Studd or the dudd would have to be in the 6'4 range barefoot and that would of course put both men in the 6'5 range in shoes... Hulk Hogan at 6'3 barefoot 6'4 in shoes.
Jay says on 8/May/13
My question remains as to why would someone lie and say they were 6'7"? Why not go whole hog and say 6'10"? He was taller than a prime Hogan, Brody, Killer Kowalski, Ox Baker, Muligan, and OMG. All of whom were 6'4"- 6'6".
dicksock says on 6/May/13
town says on 4/May/13
Studd wasnt even 6'5... check out the video of him and Fralic
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Fralic was 6'5" and Studd was at least an inch taller. That would have made him at least 6'6"; which is what he was listed at in high school basketball. Studd was 6'6"-6'7" in his prime: CASE CLOSED!
chi-town says on 6/May/13
Click Here and the video of Bill and Big John Studd...
chi-town says on 6/May/13
Yep, Bill has 2 listings one at 6'4 3/4 and one at 6'5....and here is that interview...Studd was around 6'5, if Fralic is really 6'5 barefoot that would put both guys at 6'6 in shoes.
Capt. Nobody says on 5/May/13
town says on 4/May/13
Studd wasnt even 6'5... check out the video of him and Fralic
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Yeah he was. He was maybe a little taller than George Gray, who was taller than John Tenta, who was about 6'6". 6'7" sounds feasible if Tenta's reported height is accurate.
dicksock says on 5/May/13
Jay says on 2/May/13
Where do you think he got his information from then dicksock? We are talking 1989, most people at the time still believed kayfab heights.
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I think you are over simplifying the way people viewed wrestling back then. Keep in mind that Dave Meltzer's Wrestling Observer came out in 1983. For the most part, people still believe the billed heights and weights for wrestlers as much as ever. I may be wrong about this, but I think Studd was listed at 6'7" in college. The article referenced a 6'6" high school listing.
LG69 says on 5/May/13
@town, Of course Studd's billed heights of 6'10" or 6'9" are way off, but he was taller than what you're saying. That video was posted on here numerous times in the past, and most can see that Studd was slightly taller than 6'5" Bill Fralic. At most Studd was 6'6", at least 6'5 1/2".
miko says on 5/May/13
6'11 at the very best and most likely 6'10/6'10.5 range throughout his prime, and a little under that at the end.
town says on 4/May/13
Studd wasnt even 6'5... check out the video of him and Fralic
LG69 says on 3/May/13
A couple of years ago--based on the Andre and Bob Backlund photo-- i posted some comments here about the clear evidence of a 7 foot Andre. My niece's husband, a mason by trade, and i were discussing Andre's height based on the "standard 8" blocks" seen in the background of the photo. Andre was just slightly past the 10.5 blocks--bottom block was roughly 4"(half size). He told me that you can clearly see Andre's "slightly above the 7 foot" height. Andre's very thin wrestling shoes were 1/2" at most, so if you subtract that Andre was either 7 foot even or 6'11 3/4".
Jay says on 2/May/13
Where do you think he got his information from then dicksock? We are talking 1989, most people at the time still believed kayfab heights.
dicksock says on 1/May/13
Jay says on 30/Apr/13
Andre was 6'10' barefoot, John Studd 6' 7", Hogan 6' 5". All per John MInton in a newspaper article written in 1989.
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That article was written by Mark Madden. I didn't see Studd mention any heights.
chi-town says on 1/May/13
John Studd is 6'5 maybe 6'6, if 6'6, then yes Big John is 6'7 in his shoes, when you look at Andre in Ring gear his shorter next to Baba then with his custom cowboys.. Andre wearing ring gear Baba comes up to the middle of Andre's forehead when Andre wears his custom cowboys, top of Baba's head comes up to Andre's eye line.
Iconjj says on 1/May/13
Wrstlefan1 says on 29/Apr/13
LOL at "6'11" case closed", who the heck are you people Judge Judy or something??? You think if you keep saying he was under 7' long enough it will make it true? He was over 7' tall easily, and all the wrestlers and sports people who knew him have consistently said he was 2-3 inches taller than Big Show, who is a legit 7' tall man, just as Andre was a legit 7'2-3" tall guy at his peak minimum - CASE CLOSED!! LMAO.
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Get YOUR facts straight before you go lecturing me smartmouth, 95 percent of the people who inflate his height, are the kayfabers and close friends of the man. "All the wrestlers and sports people" put Andre between 6'9 and 7'.... (Meltzer, Nash, WM2 ring announcer, Duggan, Adrian Street, Wepner, Jim Ross, etc.) Not to mention the endless stream of photographic evidence and a little research and common sense, will uncover a lot, I suggest you go do some of that, before taking shots at me Wrstlemark1....
Logic says on 1/May/13
Helen Hart (Bret Hart's mom) standing directly beside of Andre.
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I wonder how tall Helen is because Andre appears to be at least 2' taller than her. Andre has his cowboy boots on but Hellen is wearing shoes that have a very large heel. So, Andre probably has little to no heel advantage in that photo.
Dory Funk Jr. seems to have been around 6' or so in height and he appeared to have been about 11"-12" taller than Helen. Though, you can't see their footware..... so I am not sure of the height difference.
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Dory Funk Jr. and Vince McMahon
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Dory Funk Jr. and Kurt Angle.
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You can Kurt and Dory's footware in that photo and Dory seems to have a couple inches on Kurt Angle.
Capt. Nobody says on 1/May/13
Duhon says on 30/Apr/13
Just wondering at what height would someone have to be to actually be able to tell whether someone is 7' or actually 6'10"? If you're 5'10" or just under 6' let's say could you tell the difference really?
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For a person of normal proportions it's much easier to tell height differences. Andre's proportions were obviously quite different, even more so than most tall people, for instance he looks completely different with just his head down. Then you add into things the fact that he almost always had kind of a slunked down posture.
They are slight differences of course but most people know their own height so it's much easier to compare to people of similar stature. I'm sure it's all relative. Other tall people pretty much know how tall or around how tall someone around their height is. The problem with Andre are those variables above. I think if someone has bad posture, or a bad back, it's more than reasonable IMO to think they could achieve more height if they tried. That's why we need to see photos of Andre at his very tallest to compare to shots like the one Icon did below, which is a good example BTW. The question now is can Andre get any taller if he tried? When you're squabbling over an inch the devil is in the details.
homer says on 30/Apr/13
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I have never seen this picture before. Anyone know the true heights of the other two fellows?
Jay says on 30/Apr/13
Andre was 6'10' barefoot, John Studd 6' 7", Hogan 6' 5". All per John MInton in a newspaper article written in 1989. I agree at times their heights could look decieving due to lifts, high soled cowboyboots, etc. But the point is there was no reason to falsify heights by John to folow kayfab at the time so he went with the truth. I am a huge fan of the old time wrestlers but they were showmen and characters and inflating heights was no worse than faking injuries or backgrounds.
Arch Stanton says on 30/Apr/13
My honest guess of his height judging by Arnie and not Wilt? I'd agree on him being one of the few guys to have a 12 inch long head. I think Arnie was 6'1" prime and he seems a little above the point of Andre's jaw, so I see about an 11 inch difference yes, which again puts Andre at 7'0. You could argue 6'11" range but 6'11.5-7'0 I think looks right. But also take into account a guy of his size and weight, he could have been 7'2" out of bed for all we know.
Duhon says on 30/Apr/13
Just wondering at what height would someone have to be to actually be able to tell whether someone is 7' or actually 6'10"? If you're 5'10" or just under 6' let's say could you tell the difference really?
Wrstlefan1 says on 29/Apr/13
LOL at "6'11" case closed", who the heck are you people Judge Judy or something??? You think if you keep saying he was under 7' long enough it will make it true? He was over 7' tall easily, and all the wrestlers and sports people who knew him have consistently said he was 2-3 inches taller than Big Show, who is a legit 7' tall man, just as Andre was a legit 7'2-3" tall guy at his peak minimum - CASE CLOSED!! LMAO.
chi-town says on 29/Apr/13
6'9 is just 3 inches away from 7'0 and wilt barefoot is between 6'11 and 7'0 barefoot.. Andre was wearing his custom 2 1/2 boots in those pics so that would put andre at around 6'11 1/2 to 7'0 1/2... Andre around 6'9 or 6'10. barefoot.
If they wanted to impress anyone, Andre should of been standing next to Wilt barefoot with Wilt wears 2 1/2 inch boots.
chi-town says on 29/Apr/13
Compare el gigante to Kevin Nash and Tyler Mane to Andre the Giant.. El gigante was much taller than Andre the giant...
Iconjj says on 25/Apr/13
I was being sarcastic....The case is never "closed" in here....lmao
DS, if I contradicted myself it was purely by accident. 6'10-6'11 fits from 7'4-7'5....think about that for a second....a clean 6 inch exaggeration fits right into the differences.
Halb says on 25/Apr/13
We have one email posted her by Rob that estimated André's height before, from the 6'6" WM2 ring announcer. He put André at 6'9 or 6'10, can't quite recall now.
Andrethegiant says on 25/Apr/13
I'm a huge André fan but I have to be realistic, the Guy was never any taller than 6'11. I think André at his peak was right at the 6'11 mark. In wrestling Gear close to 7' ( andre didn't wear thick soles in the ring ) in his 70's to early 80's boots he was around 6'11 + 2 inches = 7'1
Andre 6'11
Paul "Big Show" wight 7'0 ( he Maybe appeared taller back in Wcw but mostly due to huge soles, big hair, greater posture than now and he was thin back then.
Hogan 6'5.25
Nash 6'9,75
dicksock says on 25/Apr/13
Iconjj says on 23/Apr/13
6'11....case closed
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Using the manum pic with barry windham crossed with one of barry with mike graham crossed with the mike graham-andre shot basically tells us what we really already knew: Thin soles, the man stood 6'11 prolly 6'10.5 barefoot
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Umm...You just contradicted yourself. Is it 6'11" or 6'10.5"? Also, you had drew the line in Mamun's hair. The top of his head would be at about the 5'7.75" mark. Did you take into consideration that he is 5'8" barefoot? Also, did you take into consideration the footwear advantage he would have over Andre? Andre's heels at that time were about .25" or so. All things taken into consideration, a peak barefoot Andre was 6'11" or maybe 6'11.5" if he was lucky, in my opinion. I can't imagine him peaking at under 6'11" out of bed.
Capt. Nobody says on 24/Apr/13
dicksock says on 23/Apr/13
I just emailed Tyler Mane and asked him how tall he thought Nash and Andre were. It will be interesting to see if he replies.
Iconjj says on 23/Apr/13
6'11....case closed
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Using the manum pic with barry windham crossed with one of barry with mike graham crossed with the mike graham-andre shot basically tells us what we really already knew: Thin soles, the man stood 6'11 prolly 6'10.5 barefoot and about 7'0.5-7'1 in cowboy boots...it adds up:
-The pic with Wilt, standing very similar in height
-Duggan stating Big Show had Andre by an inch or so (7'0)
-Adrian Street saying Andre was 6'11 or "slightly under 7 feet" can't quite remember
the 7'4/then 7'4.5/then 7'5 billings he kept getting (6 inch from actual height)
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Or is it? If he's 6'11" with that posture it may be conceivable that he could achieve or had achieved a greater height than that at some point in his life, at least in the range of somewhere in between an inch or so. I would still take the stance that whatever findings there are within a certain picture shouldn't go too far beyond that particular instance unless those findings are described within a comfortable range, not an exact pinpoint. I did some of those pinpoint shots before and got Andres height in the particular shot to within a 100th of an inch, but who's to say that was the final answer for anything other than that particular day, at that particular time, with those particular circumstances involved?
Which now leads me to this, since this argument is all about peak height, the goal of this board should be to uncover the picture that shows Andre at his absolute tallest with all things being equally scaled between subjects, shots, etc. The goal of some on this board has been to find Andre at his shortest, which, if the goal is to find his PEAK height does nothing to help find a true answer to the original question. I'd like to see a fully outstretched Andre scaled into the above shot to see what kind of height gain he could realistically achieve if any at all.
Like any scientific experiment there needs to be a standard of comparison. You can eliminate the inconsistency caused by potential differences in footwear by finding a shot of Andre, fully outstretched (as much as possible), preferably at a relatively flat angled viewpoint, and then cut him off somewhere around his waist, then scale it vertically to a shot like the one above.
I must say, this board is well beyond where it was years ago when I first discovered this thread. I think back in those days Andre was somewhere around 6'9" at his tallest (which numerically he may have been, I don't know) and around eye level to Paul Wights navel (which I knew wasn't right then just from simple eyeballing, and know it's not the case now). Just think what you all could have accomplished in that time if you were working on something else, we would probably know who killed Kennedy by now hahaha.
me says on 24/Apr/13
one question:
Do cowboy boots give everyone a boost or just Andre??
I hear many down grade Andre's height because of his cowboy boots. However I do not see the same happen when other's wear cowboy boots. Even when they wear cowboy boots when standing next to Andre. 2 examples of this are Andre standing next to a reporter who is 6'5" with a bad toupee & Andre /Wepner where Andre is barefoot& looking down on wepner who is in cowboy boots.
Just wondering.
JT says on 24/Apr/13
There’s never a “case closed” for anyone’s height unless we can measure them barefoot and ideally throughout the day to get an average daily height.
Windham was standing behind Mike Graham in that pic whereas Andre is side by side with Graham. Windham was as tall as Hogan in the mid-1980s so whatever Windham’s true height was, Andre would have been around 5 inches taller.
Graham was 5’6” tops so there should be pics of 5’6” celebrities standing next to NBA players whose barefoot heights we know from their draft measurements to compare with Andre. In my pic below of Mayhew, Whyte and Burt Ward Click Here Ward looks around 5’6”ish so that could be an interesting comparison to do.
Red 183 says on 24/Apr/13
Peak out of bed 7´0.5", lowest height after a long hard day 6´10.75"
case closed
Chaz says on 24/Apr/13
Iconjj,I have been saying that for years,after seeing the Shoemaker pic he could not have been much over 6'10'',6'11'' morning, 6'10'' evening, avarage height 6'10.5''
dicksock says on 23/Apr/13
I just emailed Tyler Mane and asked him how tall he thought Nash and Andre were. It will be interesting to see if he replies.
Iconjj says on 23/Apr/13
6'11....case closed
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Using the manum pic with barry windham crossed with one of barry with mike graham crossed with the mike graham-andre shot basically tells us what we really already knew: Thin soles, the man stood 6'11 prolly 6'10.5 barefoot and about 7'0.5-7'1 in cowboy boots...it adds up:
-The pic with Wilt, standing very similar in height
-Duggan stating Big Show had Andre by an inch or so (7'0)
-Adrian Street saying Andre was 6'11 or "slightly under 7 feet" can't quite remember
the 7'4/then 7'4.5/then 7'5 billings he kept getting (6 inch from actual height)
LG69 says on 23/Apr/13
@miko, Big Show would be around the same height as Andre.
Jay says on 22/Apr/13
So you blieve Andre was 7'3"?
Ali Baba says on 22/Apr/13
You're obviously assuming that Ladd was a legit 6'9". Anyone who's seen pictures of him with other athletes knows he wasn't. He was very close in height to James Harris when they were both a bit shrunk in from age. Harris was listed at 6'4" when he played in the NFL in 1969, so 6'9" peak seems far fetched for Ladd.
Danimal says on 22/Apr/13
miko says on 15/Apr/13
Big Show would have had around 2 inches on Andre.
Not a present day Big Show.
Danimal says on 22/Apr/13
Jay says on 17/Apr/13
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This seems legit. No reson for him to lie here he basically says he was done with wrestling at this point and treated it as a business.
Wow, controversial article that claims that Studd was 6'7", Hogan was 6'5" and Andre was 6'10" and this was written in 1989!!! (LONG before celebheights and the internet and all its fanatics).
dicksock says on 22/Apr/13
Arch Stanton says on 21/Apr/13
Because he's nearly a foot taller than Arnie which makes it incredibly difficult to estimate height that's why!!! Comparing any height over 6 inches differences is far more difficult, I'm sure Rob would back me up on this.
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I will agree that it is a bit more difficult. However, it is still pretty easy to tell approximately how much taller Andre was than Arnold.
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We know that Andre's head was about 12" long. He had a little bit more than a head on Arnold, so the difference was about 12.5". If Arnold was 6'1" in his very small heeled boots, that would have made Andre ~7'1.5 in cowboy boots. This would also explain why he looked about the same height as ~7'1" Wilt Chamberlain. Wilt was 7'1" with .5" heels and Andre was 6'11.5" with 2" heels. The picture was probably taken in the morning/early afternoon when Andre would still be at his peak height. This would explain why he could look barely 6'11" or even 6'10.5" in the evening.
[Editor Rob: with Andre, he's one of the few guys you could probably say had nearly a foot long head]
Iconjj says on 22/Apr/13
Chaz, Ladd also had a gravity defying slouch in his wrestling years; his knees were ALWAYS bent.
Freddy says on 22/Apr/13
Arch Stanton says on 21/Apr/13
Freddy says on 18/Apr/13
Arch Stanton says on 18/Apr/13
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He was a genuine giant no doubts, just wasn't 7 ft 4. He looked about 1.5 shorter than 7'1"-er Wilt Chamberlain in the Conan pic. So yeah somewhere around 7'0", 6'11.5-7'0 looks right.
Arch in the Conan pic, why does everyone refer to his height going by Wilt and not by a 6-6'1 Arnie?? Take Wilt out of the picture and what would Andres height be then do you think?
Because he's nearly a foot taller than Arnie which makes it incredibly difficult to estimate height that's why!!! Comparing any height over 6 inches differences is far more difficult, I'm sure Rob would back me up on this. Chamberlain was measured at 7'1" and change I think my a doctor so judging in comparison I'd say Andre looked a legit 7'0 guy.
Agreed!! Thanks for your response.
onlyintelligent1 says on 21/Apr/13
Iconjj says;
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Ladd had the advantage.....
I agree with ReturnofG, anything Meltzer has to say i take with a grain of salt, because he has listed Andre as both 6'9 3/4 and 6'11.5...You would think with all his "sources" he would have gotten a legitimate solid height nailed down at this point, or provided proof of these alleged japanese medical records or something....
Ladd's only advantage was his afro, their Heads are the same height, so Studd was at least 6'9" at this point making any 6'7" claims rediculous. He might have dropped to look as low as 6'7" at times given his poor neck and posture in later years, and he had the 6'7" Hogan by 1-2" in their late 80's matches so it all adds up. John was a legit 6'9" guy at his peak who was listed at 6'10" by the WWF - pretty standard for them back then as they always inflated the heights by 1-2", but never more as it would become way too obvious and Vince is too smart for that.
ReturnofG says on 21/Apr/13
Chaz says on 20/Apr/13
Ladd and Studd are the same height,or do you think Ladd's Head gos to the top of that afro? lol
I bet not but Studds head comes below Ladds top of forehead.
Arch Stanton says on 21/Apr/13
Freddy says on 18/Apr/13
Arch Stanton says on 18/Apr/13
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He was a genuine giant no doubts, just wasn't 7 ft 4. He looked about 1.5 shorter than 7'1"-er Wilt Chamberlain in the Conan pic. So yeah somewhere around 7'0", 6'11.5-7'0 looks right.
Arch in the Conan pic, why does everyone refer to his height going by Wilt and not by a 6-6'1 Arnie?? Take Wilt out of the picture and what would Andres height be then do you think?
Because he's nearly a foot taller than Arnie which makes it incredibly difficult to estimate height that's why!!! Comparing any height over 6 inches differences is far more difficult, I'm sure Rob would back me up on this. Chamberlain was measured at 7'1" and change I think my a doctor so judging in comparison I'd say Andre looked a legit 7'0 guy.
Chaz says on 20/Apr/13
Ladd and Studd are the same height,or do you think Ladd's Head gos to the top of that afro? lol
Jay says on 19/Apr/13
The article I posted a link to was written by Mark Madden. I assumed he was quoting John Minton directly not Dave Meltzer. I do agree Andre did look more like 5 inches taller at times but these staredowns were never barefoot and If Minton wanted to lie I think he would have went taller not shorter.
Dub says on 19/Apr/13
the man was listed 6'10 before becoming famous so 6'10 was his real height
Iconjj says on 19/Apr/13
onlyintelligent1 says on 16/Apr/13
Big John Studd had the legitimized 6'9" measured Ernie Ladd by a half inch in 1979 when Studd was close to 6'10". By the late eighties he was down around 6'8" and could appear shorter depending on his posture, his neck was always drooping down towards his chest at that point. In the picture with Rick Barry, studd was at least equal in height, Barry's eyes are higher but Studd's massive head brings him up to over 6'7", and you cannot include the extra 3" Barry's hat gives him. Andre had Ladd by at least 4-5 inches in their matches back then, making Andre at least 7'1-2" at that point (7'5" with his big hair!).
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Ladd had the advantage.....
I agree with ReturnofG, anything Meltzer has to say i take with a grain of salt, because he has listed Andre as both 6'9 3/4 and 6'11.5...You would think with all his "sources" he would have gotten a legitimate solid height nailed down at this point, or provided proof of these alleged japanese medical records or something....
Ali Baba says on 19/Apr/13
Jay says on 17/Apr/13
This seems legit. No reson for him to lie here he basically says he was done with wrestling at this point and treated it as a business.
Except for the fact that he was treating it as a business. He had money as his sole motivator if that's the truth.
ReturnofG says on 18/Apr/13
Jay says on 17/Apr/13
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This seems legit. No reson for him to lie here he basically says he was done with wrestling at this point and treated it as a business.
Good find Jay but way too much Meltzer for my comfort. If asked him about heights I imagen he'd go with his lies he usually screetches!
Be sides several times Andre looked closer to 5 inches or better on studd than just 3 inches!
Freddy says on 18/Apr/13
Arch Stanton says on 18/Apr/13
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He was a genuine giant no doubts, just wasn't 7 ft 4. He looked about 1.5 shorter than 7'1"-er Wilt Chamberlain in the Conan pic. So yeah somewhere around 7'0", 6'11.5-7'0 looks right.
Arch in the Conan pic, why does everyone refer to his height going by Wilt and not by a 6-6'1 Arnie?? Take Wilt out of the picture and what would Andres height be then do you think?
Red 183 says on 18/Apr/13
I think Andre lost 1.5" from morning to night height and that´s modest since there´re 6 footer that can lose over an inch. Andres long back has a big potential to lose more even more than 2 inches.
So being modest, peak Arnie could´ve been 6´11" at night and still measuring over 7´0.5" foot out of bed.
He even could´ve been 6´10" at night and still 7´0.25" out of bed.
So listing him at 7ft is ok, because at his peak, he was able to measure 7ft somewhere at the day.
I think it´s safe to say he wasn´t 7ft at his lowest during the day nor was he under 6´10".
Arch Stanton says on 18/Apr/13
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He was a genuine giant no doubts, just wasn't 7 ft 4. He looked about 1.5 shorter than 7'1"-er Wilt Chamberlain in the Conan pic. So yeah somewhere around 7'0", 6'11.5-7'0 looks right.
Capt. Nobody says on 17/Apr/13
miko says on 15/Apr/13
Big Show would have had around 2 inches on Andre.
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Maybe in his wrestling boots, not the ones he wore upon arrival in the WWE of course.
Icon pretty much has any and all Wight/Andre comparisons nailed at this point. I can't see how anyone can argue with those shots. He did a damn fine job on those. Case closed.
Halb says on 17/Apr/13
onlyintelligent1 says on 16/Apr/13
Big John Studd had the legitimized 6'9" measured Ernie Ladd by a half inch in 1979 when Studd was close to 6'10".?
Really? Post the pic, or vid.
Jay says on 17/Apr/13
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This seems legit. No reson for him to lie here he basically says he was done with wrestling at this point and treated it as a business.
RoelC says on 17/Apr/13
LG69 says on 16/Apr/13
Watch the documentary about Andre called "Larger Than Life", and even there they say he was 7 feet...not 7'4"(billed height).
In the documentary they stated he was 7ft tall on the day he went to Paris at the age of 18. So it's not like they were breaking kayfabe there. And Andre wasn't 7ft tall at the age of 18, as we have over a dozen of wrestling bills from the 60s that say he was between 6'10" and 6'11".
onlyintelligent1 says on 16/Apr/13
Big John Studd had the legitimized 6'9" measured Ernie Ladd by a half inch in 1979 when Studd was close to 6'10". By the late eighties he was down around 6'8" and could appear shorter depending on his posture, his neck was always drooping down towards his chest at that point. In the picture with Rick Barry, studd was at least equal in height, Barry's eyes are higher but Studd's massive head brings him up to over 6'7", and you cannot include the extra 3" Barry's hat gives him. Andre had Ladd by at least 4-5 inches in their matches back then, making Andre at least 7'1-2" at that point (7'5" with his big hair!).
LG69 says on 16/Apr/13
@1993, you are entitled to believe what you want, but you're off by 2"+ either way(peak/death). Most on this website who have researched/studied Andre's height have realistically narrowed it down to 7'0 peak height, and 6'10" at death. Watch the documentary about Andre called "Larger Than Life", and even there they say he was 7 feet...not 7'4"(billed height).
ReturnofG says on 16/Apr/13
If you notice Magic, Berry, Phil are all around the same height. Berry comes up to Big Shows eyes and adjusted Studd comes up a tad over Andre's top lip or lower nose.
ReturnofG says on 16/Apr/13
Judging by pictures I'd say Andre and Khali are closer in height than Bid Show and Andre.
dicksock says on 16/Apr/13
Iconjj says on 15/Apr/13
1993 height says on 14/Apr/13
we all know he was no more then 6ft8 in 1993 some people claimed he get taller in 1993 and reach the 7ft again but is not true
This guy was no more then 6ft9 at peak and 6ft8 when he die
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Have you seen the Hogan page lately? It's even worse than this. There's a guy claiming 6'4.5" for The Undertaker, 6'7.5" for Nash, and 6'3" for Hogan. Those are all peak heights by the way.
Iconjj says on 15/Apr/13
1993 height says on 14/Apr/13
we all know he was no more then 6ft8 in 1993 some people claimed he get taller in 1993 and reach the 7ft again but is not true
This guy was no more then 6ft9 at peak and 6ft8 when he die
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drummer777 says on 15/Apr/13
Hogan probably sometimes wears lifts to accentuate his height a trick he may have learned from the movie business...I love the circus...
miko says on 15/Apr/13
Big Show would have had around 2 inches on Andre.
1993 height says on 14/Apr/13
we all know he was no more then 6ft8 in 1993 some people claimed he get taller in 1993 and reach the 7ft again but is not true
This guy was no more then 6ft9 at peak and 6ft8 when he die
Logic says on 13/Apr/13
Has anybody here seen a photo of former basketball player Rick Barry standing next to Phil Jackson?
I ask this because based upon comparative pics with Magic Johnson it looks to me as though Rick Barry and Phil Jackson would have been about the same height or at least very close in height.
And since Rick Barry looked to be about 1/2" to at the very most 1" taller than John Studd that may indicate that Phil Jackson would have been around 1/2" to 1" taller than John Studd.
And since there is a photo of Phil Jackson standing next to the Big Show we might be able see how John Studd would have measured up to the Big Show. And how Phil Jackson would have measured up to Andre.
Big Show and Phil Jackson
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Rick Barry and John Studd
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Rick Barry and Magic Johnson
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Phil Jackson and Majic Johnson
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Andre and John Studd
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logan noll 1996 says on 12/Apr/13
LOL, the Andre statue dwarfs 6'6 JBL. As for the statue, I think they used his ring boots to model it off of so the statue could be his real height I guess.
logan noll 1996 says on 12/Apr/13
Drummer777, Andre was 6'10 at his death. He was 7 foot or more at his peak.
Capt. Nobody says on 12/Apr/13
JT says on 9/Apr/13
For whatever it’s worth Click Here
Backlund’s 63 now so he’s probably lost a little height.
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As always, footwear?
Capt. Nobody says on 12/Apr/13
Chaz says on 10/Apr/13
you cannot use Andre's face as a referance point,because of he's hair, you only have to be 1/8''out, working out were he's head is and you will be 7/8''out and if you are 1/4 out,that would be 1.5''+ out,and Andre's hands were thick more than long,from the HGH hydro blote,
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Yes you can. Pictures will never be perfect but you won't find a more consistent medium in this particular circumstance. As illustrated a long time ago by me and I think Red or Icon as well, when comparing two objects height wise you want to look at the point where the top of the smaller object reaches the bigger one. Not the top of the larger object. If the smaller object, even if marginally distorted, comes up to a certain point that point will remain up to a pretty increased level of difference. Preferably the objects are in a horizontal line or side by side though.
If you have someone next to Andre and they come up below his chin, you could move Andre back and forth in the foreground relatively slightly and that point will not change much. It will however be wrong if you move the small object around. As long as Andre is in front of the person he's with you'll be fine unless he's like way in front which I haven't seen any shots like that. Just see where they come up to in relation to Andres chin. Regardless of how big Andres head is in the shot or how much larger he appears due to positioning his head will always be the same actual length. Don't look at the top of his head though because it will appear as if he may be way bigger, it's all about the top of the smaller object in relation to Andres chin.
Now, it's not perfect because as illustrated many times by Icon, Andres posture can effect his perceived as well as a actual height by a substantial margin. So, each photo would be on a photo by photo basis with the goal to find the photo where he is at his absolute tallest, whatever that may be, so you know that at one point he achieved such and such a height.
guess says on 12/Apr/13
Haydtacks had (in boots) tops 6 inches on 5'10 gary liniker, he also only had 2-3 inches on the 6'1 akira maeda. He was 6'3-6'4. 6'3 alexander karelin had 2 inches on maeda and haystack didnt look much taller in comparison
Chaz says on 10/Apr/13
you cannot use Andre's face as a referance point,because of he's hair, you only have to be 1/8''out, working out were he's head is and you will be 7/8''out and if you are 1/4 out,that would be 1.5''+ out,and Andre's hands were thick more than long,from the HGH hydro blote,
RoelC says on 10/Apr/13
JT says on 9/Apr/13
Another pic of Peter Mayhew and Ian Whyte Click Here IIRC the guy in the middle claimed to be 5’8” but looks more like 5’6”.
The guy in the middle is Burt Ward, aka Robin from the old Batman tv-show.
Capt. Nobody says on 10/Apr/13
Iconjj says on 7/Apr/13
Actually, Good Capt., I did just that a while back using Andre's hand as a reference point. Somebody had measured a scan of his hand to be roughly 9'3/4.
Click Here
Here is the backlund/statue/triple H again: Click Here
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Nice! Now, under the right conditions photographically you can know how tall Andre is roughly from situation to situation just by using his head as a reference point. Get on it people!
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