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Captain Spaulding says on 11/Feb/12
Something that I think a lot of people are forgetting, that when you compare late 80s Andre to late 80s Hogan... Its Andre after losing a couple inches of hight and Hogan who is at his peak hight... At his peak hight, Andre was around 2 inches taller then he was in his match at wm 3. Back surgeries and his immense weight bearing down on his spine caused this.
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Chaz says on 20/Jan/12
Big Show I have not got a copy of 1989 or 1990,but I dont think you will find him lested in there because,there was a man fownd in he's house,that weighd over 58st,and they had to take a wall down to get him out,and after that Guinnes used to say that in recent years the heaviest man in Britain was so and so,and he's peck weight was 58st,but is now down to 49st,and Haystacks over the years he was listed in the book,lost the record a few times in 1984 a guy called Terry Thomas was listed at 41st,and in 1987,Jack Taylor was listed at 49st,in fact that 1988,Record Breakers was soposed to be a Taylor and Haystacks weighd,but Taylor said he was to ill to get there.
I’ve got a mail from a guy who owns all UK-edition of Guinness. He said the following about the heaviest man listings:
1988 Edition (released October 1987), Arthur Armitage was the heaviest man. He weighed 48st in October 1986
1989 Edition (released October 1988), Arthur Armitage was down to 30st by May 1988. Norman Smith weighted 47st 11lbs in March 1988, but 41st 10lbs nine weeks later.
Martin Ruane was said to be between 45 and 46st.
1990 Edition (released October 1989) as well as the 1991 Edition (released in October 1990) said the same thing as the 1989 edition.
If Haystacks was properly weighed at Record Breakers by Norris McWhirter why didn’t they mention this in the Guinness Book of Records? If it’s true and he was weighed at 46st8lbs, he should’ve been listed as the heaviest man in the UK at a confirmed weight, but he isn’t. They have him at an unconfirmed weight of 45-46st. With the other guys they mention the exact weight + the period they were weighed.
Neither Jack Taylor nor Terry Thomas were listed in any of the UK editions of Guinness between 1987 and 1989. Boss says on 6/Feb/12
Hogan & 6'3.5 James Buster Douglas.
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Hogan with Jake Roberts. Roberts has footware advantage.
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Hogan and 6'1 Richard Beltzer. Hogan has footware advantage but Beltzer has better posture.
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Big Show, that probably is Dory Funk given the outfit but for some reason does not look like him, especially in the face and since that guy looks completely bald on top. mike m says on 6/Feb/12
Hogan was never 6'7 at peak nor was he 6'6 more like 6'5 and thats being generous.andre never ever had hogan by 7" in his whole career dating back to the early 80's.hogan 6'5 would put andre at no taller then 6'10 1/2.bigman andre always had the same height advantage over hogan 5-5 1/2 inches.Not sure how anyone could think hogan was 6'7 at peak considering he always had the same height advantage over mean gene even at the end of his career and hogan is under 6'4 today.knowway did hogan lose 3 1/2" in height even with his surgeries.seems you guys are inflating hogans height so you get a 7 ft andre Big Show says on 5/Feb/12
JT says on 2/Feb/12
Don’t know who this guy is but he looks pretty tall given the camera angle favoring Andre
Pretty sure that's Dory Funk Jr considering he's sporting the exact same outfit Dory was wearing around that time, which would've been 1975-1976 judging by the jacket Andre was wearing (he wore that jacket in his match with Ernie Ladd aswell).
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Here's a pic of Dory wrestling Andre in 1975. And Dory is sporting a beard there.
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The pic you posted gives a skewed result, cause Dory never measured up that well next to Andre. Even in the early 90's Andre was towering over the Funks. bigman says on 5/Feb/12
wrestlemania 3 hogan and andre but who is the middle man joe marella and he was dwarfed by hogan, now being monsoons son geneticly hes not going to be short id give him above average slightly maybe 5'10"-11" so hogans 6'7" can be true but certainly 6'6" so andre was around 5" taller than hogan and that wasnt even hes peak height a young andre could have been as tall as 7'2.5" but certainly not under 7ft tall by wm3 maybe 6'11.5". JT says on 2/Feb/12
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Don’t know who this guy is but he looks pretty tall given the camera angle favoring Andre
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Not Andre-related but Giant Silva with Manny Yarbrough, who’s probably in the 6’6” to 6’7” range.
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The Ben says on 30/Jan/12
Quite a good hogan Andre comparison pic Click Here I presume they where actually stood next to each other.
Andre’s feet are at a higher level than Hogan’s. This is them at the same level. Click Here I doubt they were standing side by side for that shot. If they were, Andre was given a little boost by the photo editor. Boss says on 2/Feb/12
dicksock says on 1/Feb/12
Boss: Rob isn't "fighting" here. Chaz is referring to the posters on this site. The majority of them think Andre was 6'10"-7'. Even Red just stated that he thinks Andre was a minimum of 6'10.5". Also, if you read Chaz's post carefully, he says the 7'+ guys need help. Rob has Andre listed at 7', not 7'+.
Andre was somewhere between 6'11 - 7' peak. By the time you factor his afro, footware, head size, posture and the fact that we are going by photos and video footage with factors such as, angles and positioning we will never know for sure within an inch. Andre could have measured 7' out of bed and been 6'10.5 by evening and night. Rob measured almost an inch more out of bed than in the night and Andre's situation is much more drastic than Rob's. Also, Rob runs a the most popular website on height of celebs and he seen it fit to upgrade Andre from 6'11.5 to 7' based on his own information and his perception of Andre. To me that says more than anything as he is unbiased and spends more of his time at the height game than all of us combined. Andre lost height over his life. dicksock says on 1/Feb/12
Boss: Rob isn't "fighting" here. Chaz is referring to the posters on this site. The majority of them think Andre was 6'10"-7'. Even Red just stated that he thinks Andre was a minimum of 6'10.5". Also, if you read Chaz's post carefully, he says the 7'+ guys need help. Rob has Andre listed at 7', not 7'+. Boss says on 31/Jan/12
Chaz says on 31/Jan/12
I think Mamun,had a problem with something on a differant page and was asking if this was the end of Supermaun,to Rob,but I cannot remmber who's height page I see it on,or what he was going on about,come back Mamun,the 7'+ Andre boys need your help.the 6'10-11'' one's are winning fight.
Are you blind. Look at the top of the page and it will tell you who's winning the fight. Iconjj says on 31/Jan/12
Danimal says on 30/Jan/12
Iconjj says on 29/Jan/12
I've been giving this some thought. Is it possible that Andre's barefoot height was 6'10, considering that a lot of his early matches he competed barefoot? That would explain away the billing. Andre in wrestling boots would have been 6'11, and his cowboy boots would have made him an easy 7'.5, maybe 7'1 which would explain the photos with Wilt. Let's remember if the McMahons used 6 inches as an inflation point, that would explain the 7'4, and the wrestling boots giving him an inch would explain the 7'5 billings.
You're WAYYYYYYYY over thinking this.
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This is probably true, lol. Chaz says on 31/Jan/12
I think Mamun,had a problem with something on a differant page and was asking if this was the end of Supermaun,to Rob,but I cannot remmber who's height page I see it on,or what he was going on about,come back Mamun,the 7'+ Andre boys need your help.the 6'10-11'' one's are winning fight. Big Show says on 31/Jan/12
dicksock says on 29/Jan/12
Here's my take on what you're saying: I think that there are a couple of factors people need to take into consideration. Andre's 6'10" billing started when he was around 18. One can assume that either Andre was measured at 6'10", believed himself to be about 6'10", or his early promoters thought he was around this height. The problem is that Andre had untreated Acromelagy and would have likely grown in height past the age of 18. When I graduated high school, I was just under 5'9" according to a doctor's measurement. At the age of 22 I was measured again. This time I was 5'10". I had no idea that I had gotten any taller because in reality an inch is nothing. If a short guy like me didn't notice a change in height, how would a giant like Andre or his promoters. In other words, Andre could have went from 6'10" to 6'11" and nobody would have noticed. I think Andre could have peaked at anywhere between 6'10.5" and 7'. I would bet that he was around 6'11" at his tallest. Finally, don't forget that when Andre went to Japan in 1970 and was told he had Acromelagy, his billing went up to 7'2".
Yeah but the difference between you and Andre is that you’re not a wrestler who’s size was his mealticket. Just look at the way Andre was promoted throughout his career. His size played an eminent part in his life. Nearly all his wrestling bills included his height & weight. Promoters were very aware of his size and did their best to amplify it during his matches as well as Andre’s promotion to the public, especially in his early days. I doubt any promoter would’ve just guessed his height. It’s extremely rare to have a wrestler that size and I think any promoter would be as anxious to know how tall Andre really was, just as much as we are.
His billings during the 60’s fluctuated a bit. In France between 1965-1969 he was generally billed at 208-211cm (6’10-6’11”) and between 135-148kg (298-326lbs). In the UK he was billed 6’10” and referred to as 6’11” in wrestling mags. He was credited with a weight of 24st (336lbs).
Andre was probably measured when he started his wrestling career, because he would probably need a wrestling license before he could compete. And for that he would have to have had a physical examination. I don’t believe such licenses are valid for 5 years or more, so he might’ve had several physical examinations during those years. Danimal says on 30/Jan/12
Iconjj says on 29/Jan/12
I've been giving this some thought. Is it possible that Andre's barefoot height was 6'10, considering that a lot of his early matches he competed barefoot? That would explain away the billing. Andre in wrestling boots would have been 6'11, and his cowboy boots would have made him an easy 7'.5, maybe 7'1 which would explain the photos with Wilt. Let's remember if the McMahons used 6 inches as an inflation point, that would explain the 7'4, and the wrestling boots giving him an inch would explain the 7'5 billings.
You're WAYYYYYYYY over thinking this. The Ben says on 30/Jan/12
Quite a good hogan Andre comparison pic Click Here I presume they where actually stood next to each other. Big Show says on 30/Jan/12
Btw, what happened to Mamun. Has he left celebheights? Big Show says on 30/Jan/12
Iconjj says on 29/Jan/12
I've been giving this some thought. Is it possible that Andre's barefoot height was 6'10, considering that a lot of his early matches he competed barefoot? That would explain away the billing. Andre in wrestling boots would have been 6'11, and his cowboy boots would have made him an easy 7'.5, maybe 7'1 which would explain the photos with Wilt. Let's remember if the McMahons used 6 inches as an inflation point, that would explain the 7'4, and the wrestling boots giving him an inch would explain the 7'5 billings.
Iconjj, Andre wrestled barefoot against Don Leo Jonathan in Japan 1972, during an IWA tournament. Andre was billed 222cm (~7’3 ½ ”) and 200kg (441 lbs) during that tour, so it’s not like he wrestled barefoot because there was no need to exaggerate his height. I can’t recall any other match where he wrestled barefoot, though he might’ve wrestled barefoot more than once.
It’s been said before, but I’ll say it again: don’t look for any patterns in wrestling billings, cause there aren’t any. What a wrestler is billed at, mostly depends on the promoter and how they want to portray a wrestler. The real height of the wrestler more than often barely plays a part in this. aaronious says on 29/Jan/12
Danimal, under normal circumstances i would agree with you, but i think camera tricks and lifts have assisted hogan most of his career. i dont think he was over 6'6" peak. dicksock says on 29/Jan/12
mike m says on 29/Jan/12
Boss i tend to agree with a what his wrestling billing was and it states 6'10 and there is knowway id believe he was being underbilled by a wrestling alliance.Newspapers have a tendancy of rounding off heights.I could be wrong maybe he was 7'.I wont even pretend to know i can accuratley measure someones height in a pic and be within 2 inches of being accurate.I just think its weird that he was being billed at 6'10 in his peak.
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Here's my take on what you're saying: I think that there are a couple of factors people need to take into consideration. Andre's 6'10" billing started when he was around 18. One can assume that either Andre was measured at 6'10", believed himself to be about 6'10", or his early promoters thought he was around this height. The problem is that Andre had untreated Acromelagy and would have likely grown in height past the age of 18. When I graduated high school, I was just under 5'9" according to a doctor's measurement. At the age of 22 I was measured again. This time I was 5'10". I had no idea that I had gotten any taller because in reality an inch is nothing. If a short guy like me didn't notice a change in height, how would a giant like Andre or his promoters. In other words, Andre could have went from 6'10" to 6'11" and nobody would have noticed. I think Andre could have peaked at anywhere between 6'10.5" and 7'. I would bet that he was around 6'11" at his tallest. Finally, don't forget that when Andre went to Japan in 1970 and was told he had Acromelagy, his billing went up to 7'2". Boss says on 29/Jan/12
mike m says on 29/Jan/12
Boss i tend to agree with a what his wrestling billing was and it states 6'10 and there is knowway id believe he was being underbilled by a wrestling alliance.Newspapers have a tendancy of rounding off heights.I could be wrong maybe he was 7'.I wont even pretend to know i can accuratley measure someones height in a pic and be within 2 inches of being accurate.I just think its weird that he was being billed at 6'10 in his peak.
Andre was being billed at 2.10 m which is 6'10.7 at age 18 which closer to 6'11 than 6'10. Adult men can grow into their early 20's. Some giants are know to grow in height through their 20's. It depends on when the long bones of the body actually fuse stopping vertical height. Having a constant secretion of HGH running through your body can alter the normal time lines of vertical growth. I'm not saying this is the case with Andre but he grew into is early 20's for sure .
Here is a 1968 billing of Andre in France of 2.14m. Some promoters may have used older program billings of Andre as he was constantly growing at this point of his life.
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Here is Japan 1974 a 217cm billing.
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For the first few years Andre grew in height and the last few years his height decreased. A&E stated that on the day Andre left for France he was 7'.
Here is Andre being measured by his trainer. These height scales measure up to 6'10 and his trainer has the height rod removed from it's place by a couple inches. He comes out right around 7'. If you do it by using the megapixels in the pic he comes out around 7'0.5 as shown. His trainer claimed 7'1.5 for the measurement and this was the height Andre would use this when asked his height when asked by family and friends as we learned from Andre's nephew.
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Went throught my album today and compared quite a bit pics, this is the outcome
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Therefore my MINIMUM peak estimations:
Haystacks 6´6"
Studd 6´5.75"
Hogan 6´5"
Undertaker 6´7"
Sid 6´7"
Andre 6´10.5"
Big Show 6´11.5"
For a normal peak I have all of them a half inch taller. Only Andre could´ve been a little more than that, maybe... Iconjj says on 29/Jan/12
I've been giving this some thought. Is it possible that Andre's barefoot height was 6'10, considering that a lot of his early matches he competed barefoot? That would explain away the billing. Andre in wrestling boots would have been 6'11, and his cowboy boots would have made him an easy 7'.5, maybe 7'1 which would explain the photos with Wilt. Let's remember if the McMahons used 6 inches as an inflation point, that would explain the 7'4, and the wrestling boots giving him an inch would explain the 7'5 billings. mike m says on 29/Jan/12
Boss i tend to agree with a what his wrestling billing was and it states 6'10 and there is knowway id believe he was being underbilled by a wrestling alliance.Newspapers have a tendancy of rounding off heights.I could be wrong maybe he was 7'.I wont even pretend to know i can accuratley measure someones height in a pic and be within 2 inches of being accurate.I just think its weird that he was being billed at 6'10 in his peak. Boss says on 28/Jan/12
mike m says on 28/Jan/12
I just dont see how andre could have been 7 ft when he was being billed 6'10 and that was when he looked his tallest.I feel him and kevin nash were about the same height maybe andre had him by an inch.I guess everyone can argue about heights but knowone will ever know how tall andre really was unless theres some documents hidden away somewhere knowone knows about.I dont buy 7 ft andre but who knows?Sometimes he looks it but more times then not he doesnt
Here is Andre at age 19 in a UK newspaper being reffered to as 7'.
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I just dont see how andre could have been 7 ft when he was being billed 6'10 and that was when he looked his tallest.I feel him and kevin nash were about the same height maybe andre had him by an inch.I guess everyone can argue about heights but knowone will ever know how tall andre really was unless theres some documents hidden away somewhere knowone knows about.I dont buy 7 ft andre but who knows?Sometimes he looks it but more times then not he doesnt dicksock says on 27/Jan/12
Danimal says on 27/Jan/12
If that's the case, Hogan really was 6'7"-6'8" in 1979, seeing he had 3-4" on Ed Leslie at THAT time.. Ed Leslie was 6'2"..Vince McMahon was 6'2"
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Did you even watch the video I posted? You are such such a stubborn moron. How can you make the claim that Beefcake and McMahon are the same height after viewing that footage? You are either a troll or you just flat out ignored the video I posted the link to. It's just like the time I posted a link to footage of Hulk Hogan and Hernandez from TNA and you, being the idiot you are, responded by talking about Hercules Hernandez from the 1980s WWF. Here's the video once again:
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I met Beefcake in 08 and I would say 6'2 if he stood tall, I did have a photo with him.. May still have it somewhere. Danimal says on 27/Jan/12
dicksock says on 22/Jan/12
JT: Ed Leslie is taller than 6'1". He's more like 6'3". Here he is next to a prime Vince McMahon and they both have the same footware:
Vince McMahon was 6'2" kid. Danimal says on 27/Jan/12
aaronious says on 22/Jan/12
JT, Ed Leslie, AKA Brutus beefcake is WELL over 6'1".. he's at LEAST 6'3" if not 6'4". this is widely known fact. I have seen him in a strip club in clearwater shaking hands with and standing next to my 6'2" friend kris, and he was taller than kris somewhere between 1-2".
If that's the case, Hogan really was 6'7"-6'8" in 1979, seeing he had 3-4" on Ed Leslie at THAT time.. Ed Leslie was 6'2".. JT says on 26/Jan/12
Some b-ball photos of Bill Engesser
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The guy (Warnell Jones) guarding Engesser was listed at 6’11” at UCLA.
It looks like Kiel and Engesser also appeared in a 1975 episode of Switch with Robert Wagner and Eddie Albert. bigman says on 26/Jan/12
stop smoking the heroin andre was at very least 7ft wasnt he like 8 or 9" above a 6'6" door frame Big Show says on 26/Jan/12
JT says on 24/Jan/12
Click Here Based on the railing, Kiel is closer to the camera.
Wasn’t there also a clip of them coming through that doorway? Given his weight at a young age and the size of his hands, Engesser looks like he has acromegaly/gigantism as well. Click Here
I haven't seen the entire movie and only fast-forwarded through it, but that was the only scene I saw with Kiel & Engesser. If there's another scene I must've missed it.
Rikashiku, it's the same door in both pics I showed. I don't need to know the height of the door. What I asked for is a comparison between Kiel & Engesser, to see who's the taller one. JMac11 says on 25/Jan/12
Richard Kiel states in his autobiography that Engesser was taller. He also says that in his pre actor bouncer days he was approached about wrestling at the LA office, idicates he was taller than Andre but did not call him out by name. dicksock says on 25/Jan/12
JT: What do you make of the Vince/Beefcake video I posted? Both men are in sneakers and Beefcake is 2-3" taller for sure. If you think he is 6'1-6'2", does that make a prime Vince McMahon ~5'11"? I don't think that footage should be ignored. If you're right and Beefcake is only 6'2" max, then how on earth can Rob justify having 6'1.5" for Vince McMahon on this site? He would have to lower him to 5'11" or 6' max. Chaz says on 25/Jan/12
If them two other basketball players are 6'and 5'10''then Engesser,is well over 7',he's got 15''on them at least. Rikashiku says on 24/Jan/12
@bigshow, I'm not sure a Door comparison will work because we don't know the height of either doors. Then again, we could use the shorter actors height to figure out that doors height but we won't know bigshows door height. Most doors are normally 198cm in height, some 200cm and 208cm. Iconjj says on 24/Jan/12
Good point FormlessOne, I also noticed Hogan may be in a more relaxed posture in the Canadian Giant pic, looks to me like he's leaned up against something. JT says on 24/Jan/12
Click Here Camera advantage for Andre but we don’t know what footwear Garry Robbins and Hogan are wearing in their pic. JT says on 24/Jan/12
Click Here Based on the railing, Kiel is closer to the camera.
Wasn’t there also a clip of them coming through that doorway? Given his weight at a young age and the size of his hands, Engesser looks like he has acromegaly/gigantism as well. Click Here
The highest I would go for Ed Leslie is 6’2” and it would be a weak 6’2”.
I stood next to Greg Valentine in 1986 and he’s no more than 5’10”
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Leslie does not look even 6’2” here with Big Show and 6’5” Brian Adams
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Leslie has cowboy boots on here with Kevin Nash
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In the pic with Garry Robbins/Canadian Giant, Hogan is closer to the camera and is also wearing leather pants, meaning he could have cowboy boots on. Inoki is around 6’1” and should not be coming out taller than Leslie in any comparison photo unless he wore cowboy boots to Hogan’s wedding like Andre did. FormlessOne says on 24/Jan/12
Yeah Iconjj, but also keep in mind that Hogan is probably in dress shoes at his wedding an in sports shoes or even cowboys in the other picture Chaz says on 24/Jan/12
Vegas,you are better off useing the other guy next to Haystacks,Rory McGtath he's in a better position,and I have looked up he's height he's listed from 6'-6'2''well he is not 6'2''but he's taller than Lineker,even if he's only 5'11.5''he's below Haystacks nose,and Haystacks as got them flat brown boots on he had in the WCW,and he's got he's head down so he's 7''or 8''taller he is about 6'7'' there and was about 6'8''in the 1970s maybe 6'9''out of bed. Kunoiti says on 24/Jan/12
Gally Robbins says, "We plan to implement programs in the United States and three in the back than Andre the Giant and Eruhigante, I have the most high.
From one angry Higante rode, did every single defeat. "
This is japanese a professional wrestling magazine rode comment.
I would once in a joke. I saw him the impression that his height about 6'11" seemed. Iconjj says on 23/Jan/12
I don't see any difference here
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Could be where Andre is in his boots, but there's no more than an inch either way. Similar to Big Show. Big Show says on 23/Jan/12
JT says on 21/Jan/12
Big Show, not sure if this was ever figured out, but this is the guy Click Here who was in your clip from the Nutty Professor with Richard Kiel and Jerry Lewis. There is a 7’0.5” reference to him but that was in high school. He did look Kiel’s height so the 7’3” claim could be close to reality.
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Maybe someone can make a comparison of the two by using the door as a reference (or the weight lifting rack). To me it appears that William Engesser edges out Richard Kiel in height. dicksock says on 23/Jan/12
Vegas says on 23/Jan/12
aaronious says on 22/Jan/12
JT, Ed Leslie, AKA Brutus beefcake is WELL over 6'1".. he's at LEAST 6'3" if not 6'4".
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well he wasn't 6'4 because during his last run with wwf he was billed 6'3, looks more ~6'2 with roberts Click Her
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There are pretty good odds that Jake was in cowboy boots with that outfit. A 6'2" Brutus makes a prime Vince McMahon ~5'11.5". Vince was at least a solid 6' and Brutus was 6'3". I feel like the evidence I posted a link to is pretty solid. There were no trick angles, footware issues, posture issues, ect... Boss says on 23/Jan/12
aaronious says on 22/Jan/12
Boss, what page number is that on?
Also, this was McMahon Sr.
Just scroll down the page a bit. Boss says on 23/Jan/12
aaronious says on 22/Jan/12
Boss, what page number is that on?
Just scroll down the page a bit. Red says on 23/Jan/12
I don´t see Haystacks over 6´7"peak, 6´6"range with Wight in WCW. Vegas says on 23/Jan/12
speaking of haystacks as he has been mentioned so much recently, this is from his appearance on the bbc gameshow they think its all over which was originally broadcast september 1995 (but probably filmed months earlier), robs got gary lineker (on the right) at 177cm
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i was hoping dvd would have full clip of him on that show but it was shortened version Vegas says on 23/Jan/12
aaronious says on 22/Jan/12
JT, Ed Leslie, AKA Brutus beefcake is WELL over 6'1".. he's at LEAST 6'3" if not 6'4".
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well he wasn't 6'4 because during his last run with wwf he was billed 6'3, looks more ~6'2 with roberts Click Here aaronious says on 22/Jan/12
JT, Ed Leslie, AKA Brutus beefcake is WELL over 6'1".. he's at LEAST 6'3" if not 6'4". this is widely known fact. I have seen him in a strip club in clearwater shaking hands with and standing next to my 6'2" friend kris, and he was taller than kris somewhere between 1-2". aaronious says on 22/Jan/12
Boss, what page number is that on? dicksock says on 22/Jan/12
JT: Ed Leslie is taller than 6'1". He's more like 6'3". Here he is next to a prime Vince McMahon and they both have the same footware:
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Look at 3:02-3:04 among many other parts and you'll see that Beefcake was easily 2-3" taller than ~6'1" Vince. The money shot is 4:42. Heenan even says in the video that Beefcake is 6'3"-6'4". I dare anyone to post what they see at 4:42-4:44. Let me guess, a prime Vince was 5'10"-5'11"? Boss says on 21/Jan/12
Here it states when they brought Hogan in that McMahon bought Hogan a 1000 robe and boots with lifts in them so they could lie about his height.
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Big Show, not sure if this was ever figured out, but this is the guy Click Here who was in your clip from the Nutty Professor with Richard Kiel and Jerry Lewis. There is a 7’0.5” reference to him but that was in high school. He did look Kiel’s height so the 7’3” claim could be close to reality.
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He’s a huge guy but not 7’5” Click Here Road Warrior Hawk looked in the 6’1” to 6’2” tops range to me. Even if Hawk has cowboy boots on, Robbins looks like he would struggle to get much past 7’0”.
I can’t find the pic without the lines but here’s Robbins with Hogan and Ed Leslie. Click Here Leslie is also in the 6’1” or so range.
Whatever his height is, Robbins is clearly taller than Andre. Google Yao Ming if you want to see what 7’5” really looks like. Boss says on 21/Jan/12
Andre is leaning over in that pic more than Wilt and Wilt is wearing a Wig. They still come out the same height virtually. Andre's head is several inches longer than Wilt's which will make Wilt appear taller in comparison. By the time you get to the top of their heads not hair they come out the same height. Andre has about an 1-1.5 in footware advantage but wilt has much better posture than Andre as this point in their lives. Wilt was 7'1 so Andre was around 6'11.5 - 7' with a 7'1 Wilt. Andre was the true largest overall athlete the world has ever known.
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Those comparisons are bad because the Camera man would always be at different distances for each shot. So those are not good comparisons.
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Hogan, Trump and Andre KingNick says on 20/Jan/12
Kunoiti says on 19/Jan/12
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I didn't read it to thoroughly but the site has something about how to calculate heights via megapixels or something. Maybe somebody can do this for Andre photos: Click Here i-Clarke93 says on 20/Jan/12
dicksock says on 19/Jan/12
Rob: Why don't you start a Giant Haystacks page? I think he is a legit British legend and his height is widely disputed.
I agree , he needs his own page since his height is often argued upon on this page Chaz says on 20/Jan/12
Big Show I have not got a copy of 1989 or 1990,but I dont think you will find him lested in there because,there was a man fownd in he's house,that weighd over 58st,and they had to take a wall down to get him out,and after that Guinnes used to say that in recent years the heaviest man in Britain was so and so,and he's peck weight was 58st,but is now down to 49st,and Haystacks over the years he was listed in the book,lost the record a few times in 1984 a guy called Terry Thomas was listed at 41st,and in 1987,Jack Taylor was listed at 49st,in fact that 1988,Record Breakers was soposed to be a Taylor and Haystacks weighd,but Taylor said he was to ill to get there. Kunoiti says on 19/Jan/12
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Rob: Why don't you start a Giant Haystacks page? I think he is a legit British legend and his height is widely disputed. Big Show says on 19/Jan/12
Chaz says on 18/Jan/12
Haystacks was listed in the old UK Guinness book of Records,from 1983-1989 at times as the UK heaviest man,in the 1983 one it says he's weight fluctuates between 38 and 40st,and in the 1989 one says he weight fluctuates between 45-46st,and could at one time been as high as 50st.when you are that size gaining or loseing 50lbs is like a 15st man gaining or loseing,a stone.
I’m more interested in what he was listed in the 1990 Guinness Book of Records. If he was weighed on Record Breakers 1988 that means he was weighed somewhere between October 21 and December 16 1988 (when the show aired). The 1989 UK edition of Guinness was released in mid-October 1988 (so before the weigh-in). I believe he was listed in those years at an unconfirmed weight.
If he was weighed on Record Breakers 1988, he should be listed in the 1990 Guinness Book of Records at a “confirmed” weight. After all, Norris McWhirter weighed Haystacks himself you say. He used to be the editor of Guinness Book of Records and was still actively involved in the formation of that book. So I doubt Guinness wouldn’t include records which were verified by Norris McWhirter himself. Chaz says on 18/Jan/12
Haystacks was listed in the old UK Guinness book of Records,from 1983-1989 at times as the UK heaviest man,in the 1983 one it says he's weight fluctuates between 38 and 40st,and in the 1989 one says he weight fluctuates between 45-46st,and could at one time been as high as 50st.when you are that size gaining or loseing 50lbs is like a 15st man gaining or loseing,a stone. lawrence says on 18/Jan/12
Big Show says on 17/Jan/12
Has anyone here actually seen that weigh-in! I haven’t, nor can I find any record of it. Chaz is about the only source I’ve heard claiming Haystacks was weighed on Record Breakers.
Even though Record Breakers was a popular show, it seems to have vanished into the abyss, as apart from a few segments on U-tube, I can’t find much info from that show.
What I do know is that Record Breakers was affiliated with Guinness Book of Records (GBR) and many of the records that were broken on that show also appeared in GBR. So I don’t think they would fix records on Record Breakers. If that were to be exposed the credibility of both Record Breakers & Guinness would’ve been ruined. Seeing as that never happened and the show ran for nearly 30 years, I’m guessing those records were legit.
i remember seeing Haystacks weighed on record breakers, i used to love that program, Roy Castle was the presenter and they used to have Ross and Norris Mcwhirter from the guiness book of records, and they knew every record in the world, and anyone could challenge them to see if they could ask them a question and see if they didn't know the record. as far as Haystacks was concerned i cant remember exactly but it was 46st something and his chest was 80 something inches and i remember they used him after to break another record, they had this little indian fella who had the record for laying on a bed of nails with the heavyest person sitting on him, he layed on this bed of nails holding a board, and Haystacks sat on the board.
wasn't Andre listed on this site as 6'11'' last time i looked on here? nice to see him listed at what he should be. Boss says on 17/Jan/12
Andre and Haystacks with same guy.
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dicksock says on 13/Jan/12
Like I asked before; Do certain posters think this weigh-in was a fraud? I don't see why it would be as it wasn't a wrestling show. It's not like the WWF measuring Andre. Unless the weigh-in was a fraud, I don't see the point in arguing that Viscera was as big as Haystacks. We know Viscera wasn't ever over 500lbs by any significant amount. We know Haystacks peaked at least 652lbs.
Has anyone here actually seen that weigh-in! I haven’t, nor can I find any record of it. Chaz is about the only source I’ve heard claiming Haystacks was weighed on Record Breakers.
Even though Record Breakers was a popular show, it seems to have vanished into the abyss, as apart from a few segments on U-tube, I can’t find much info from that show.
What I do know is that Record Breakers was affiliated with Guinness Book of Records (GBR) and many of the records that were broken on that show also appeared in GBR. So I don’t think they would fix records on Record Breakers. If that were to be exposed the credibility of both Record Breakers & Guinness would’ve been ruined. Seeing as that never happened and the show ran for nearly 30 years, I’m guessing those records were legit. dicksock says on 17/Jan/12
JT says on 16/Jan/12
Dicksock, I brought up the 700 lbs. figure since you’re the one who claimed Haystacks was “nearly 700 lbs.,” which I doubted. Wrestlers have the perception of being larger than life in both height and weight, so explain why Haystacks would go on national TV and expose his real weight?
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Hmmm jt, that's a tough one...Maybe because his real weight and billed weight were the same thing! For example, he was listed at over 600lbs in 1988 and he knew he actually was so of course he would go on a show to prove it. Chaz says on 17/Jan/12
JT you do not seem to be geting it Haystacks did not weighy over 600lbs untill after 1986,befor that from 1977-1985 he was billed fron 31st-42st that is 434lbs-588lbs,and in 1980 with Andre he was only 504lbs 36st,so in a way you are right,but if you cannot see that in 1987 in that fight with Dally,who was from 350/420lbs himself,he is not over 600lbs,then there is no hope of you ever beliving anything,look at the ring move when he stamps he's feet lol,and how wide he's back is,and in that photo of him next to he's wife,look at the size of them legs,there bigger than the wife's body and he's forarms are bigger than her head,and you only have to look at that photo of him and big Daddy from about 1978,were they are back to back,to see he was a good 6'8''back then.go look at Andre in cloths who was top end 400lbs,and comepare there legs,Haysacks was huge all over even he's size 17 US feet are huge. Boss says on 16/Jan/12
Capt. Nobody says on 15/Jan/12
FormlessOne says on 15/Jan/12
Let me ask all of you a question. Is there a pair of Andre's ring boots out there to measure them ? measure them from top to sole, compare to a picture, scale and you have his height. Do I think wrong ?
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Or better yet, just use his head! Oh, did that huh. Still waiting on the attempts of others. Tick tock, tick tock.
Here is the perfect picture to use since he is actually being measured in the photo.
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Dicksock, I brought up the 700 lbs. figure since you’re the one who claimed Haystacks was “nearly 700 lbs.,” which I doubted. Wrestlers have the perception of being larger than life in both height and weight, so explain why Haystacks would go on national TV and expose his real weight? You could not have gotten Andre near a stadiometer on national TV unless the device was rigged. No need to get your panties in a bunch just because someone disagrees with you.
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FormlessOne says on 15/Jan/12
Let me ask all of you a question. Is there a pair of Andre's ring boots out there to measure them ? measure them from top to sole, compare to a picture, scale and you have his height. Do I think wrong ?
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Or better yet, just use his head! Oh, did that huh. Still waiting on the attempts of others. Tick tock, tick tock. Richard says on 15/Jan/12
@FormlessOne
Yes there are, WWE displays them sometimes. There is even a place in the US which has a pair of Andre's cowboy boots. I searched out the address and opening hours of the place in case someone wanted to go down and measure them to get an accurate reading of Andre's shoe size. But unfortunately the kind folks on here were content with estimating his size from a T-shirt print of his foot. So you see, the attitude here is strictly scientific O.o FormlessOne says on 15/Jan/12
Let me ask all of you a question. Is there a pair of Andre's ring boots out there to measure them ? measure them from top to sole, compare to a picture, scale and you have his height. Do I think wrong ? Robby says on 15/Jan/12
Kamala did admit in a interview that he wasn't no 6'7", which was his billed height sometimes. rather that he was 6'4" or 6'5" I believe the interview was on gerwick.net years ago. Red says on 14/Jan/12
I don´t think Haystacks passed the 600.
500 lbs easy, maybe 550 peak dicksock says on 14/Jan/12
JT says on 13/Jan/12
Dicksock, with wrestlers are involved, you have to assume that everything is faked. 700 lbs. is incredibly large.
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Just because he was a wrestler, that means the weigh-in was fake?! Record Breakers was a successful British tv show. They had no affiliation with wrestling whatsoever so it's pretty pathetic that you'd make such an asinine statement. Haystacks getting weighed on Record Breakers would kind of be the equivalent of getting weighed on the old Ripley's Believe It or Not show that used to air in the U.S. I don't know why you bring up the 700lb figure because Haystacks was weighed at 652, not 700. Is it that hard to believe that his weight could have gone from 575lbs to 652lbs? Remember, the 652 figure is used to describe his legitimate peak weight, not his normal weight.
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dicksock says on 13/Jan/12
Here's a great shot of Andre with his head resting on a cinder block wall. His head looks a foot long to me.
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I think I figured out and posted this one out a while back....Andre's hand length was the key to his head length...A little over 12", maybe 12.25
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JT,Manny Yarbrough is way over 700lbs,in that Photo,and that photo of Haystacks,is from 1984-5 when he was only 41st, Click Here
here is Yarbrough being weighd at a crap yerd at 745lbs that over 52st,look at 1 min 36 secs,and look how much smaller he looks in cloths. Kunoiti says on 14/Jan/12
Frenchy Bernard stated Andre was legitimately measured at age 22 at 7'0 .5 in Japan while being diagnosed for his condition and that he lost height over his career to surgery and poor posture and the overall pounding his body took over his life. Frenchy was Andre's best friend and could have easily stated 7'4 but instead stated 7'0 .5. Also Frenchy seems to be a pretty honest man and would have no reason to just make something as detailed has the whole Japan measurement
Andre and fight scenes, so there was a Japanese fighter in his youth in the frenchfilm,
Bernard is a memory that I confused?
sorry,bud english. logan noll 1996 says on 13/Jan/12
If Kamala was 6'4 or 6'5 then Hogan may as well have been 6'6 or 6'7 given that he obviously had 2 inches over Kamala. Andre was about 7' or 7'2 at his peak and either 6'10 or 6'11 after back surgery. Giant Haystacks was 6'8 in reality, but was billed as 6'11. Big Show is either 6'11 or 7'. I saw a photo of Big Show and Shaq and Shaq was an ich or 2 taller than Big Show.
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dicksock you are right,we know how big Haystacks was weight wise,it's he's height that we can not work out,and how much height did he lose by 1996 if any,all I can tell you for sure was that in 1987,when I saw him in the ring with Pat Roach,he was at least 3''taller,could have been 4''but was hard to tell he never stand up strate much,but he was taller than the door he come in to get in the ring,because he had to turn side ways to get in it and duck he's head,but with PN News in I think it was 1993-4 he was so fat and out of shape,and so much taller than him there was nothing to go by,Haystacks made him look thin,and then PN News would not get in the ring for most of the fight,then when he did Haystacks run at him did a body check and News went down,and Haystacks did one of he's back elbows and that was it,Haystacks spent more time trying to pull himself up in to the ring than the fight lasted lol. dicksock says on 13/Jan/12
Here's a great shot of Andre with his head resting on a cinder block wall. His head looks a foot long to me.
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Dicksock, with wrestlers are involved, you have to assume that everything is faked. 700 lbs. is incredibly large. At peak, Manny Yarbrough was around that weight, if not more, and is about 6’7” like Haystacks was Click Here
Baggy clothing, which Haystacks often wore in the ring, can make a person look larger too. I don't know what his peak weight was but I have no doubt it was well over 500 lbs. dicksock says on 13/Jan/12
Chaz says on 13/Jan/12
in any case he was weighd On the TV show Record Brakes,in 1988.by Norris McWhirter at 46st 8lbs,that is 652lbs,which at the times was the biggist in the UK,but on it he cliamed he had been up to 50st at one time.
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Like I asked before; Do certain posters think this weigh-in was a fraud? I don't see why it would be as it wasn't a wrestling show. It's not like the WWF measuring Andre. Unless the weigh-in was a fraud, I don't see the point in arguing that Viscera was as big as Haystacks. We know Viscera wasn't ever over 500lbs by any significant amount. We know Haystacks peaked at least 652lbs. Chaz says on 13/Jan/12
just look at him side on in this,and I dont belive he's as big here as he was in 1987-9,because he was out of wrestling and had knee ops,for 18 months to 1991, Click Here
you cannot see Duggan when he is in front of him,and he's no small man Big Show says on 13/Jan/12
Iconjj says on 12/Jan/12
Noel says the same thing Andre's daughter says about him...both swearing to the heavens that their fathers stood 6'11 and 7'4 respectively...despite the fact that those heights have both been debunked both here and by common sense.
Max Palmer's stepson also claims his father was measured at 8'2" at death. 8'2" was of course the height he was mostly billed at when he was a wrestler. In reality he was closer to 7'7", which was the height he was listed at in college basketball. Chaz says on 13/Jan/12
JT,I am not saying,Haystacks had a wider shoulder frame than any big 200cm man,but it's Haystacks girth,that is so wide,and Big Show is doing a semi lat spred in that pose,that makes the shoulders a few inch wider,than they are with the arms down,and you have the line on Haystacks too high,it should be in line with the delts,its a wide back you need to have a large chest,and Haystacks chest is masive,he unlike all the other 400lbs+ men Bundy,Gang,Tenta,Akebono,who by the way had very thing legs,Haystacks was has wide from the side has he was from the front,and he's legs were huge,and he's calfs are the biggist I have ever seen,he was fat all over,you look at that photo of him standing,just inside a door with he's wife.look at the size of them legs in them jeans,and in any case he was weighd On the TV show Record Brakes,in 1988.by Norris McWhirter at 46st 8lbs,that is 652lbs,which at the times was the biggist in the UK,but on it he cliamed he had been up to 50st at one time, Iconjj says on 12/Jan/12
Noel says the same thing Andre's daughter says about him...both swearing to the heavens that their fathers stood 6'11 and 7'4 respectively...despite the fact that those heights have both been debunked both here and by common sense. JT says on 12/Jan/12
Chaz, you may be right about the effect clothing has on perceived size but Viscera looked heavier than Akebono when they wrestled a few years ago.
Any width advantage Haystacks may have had over others is definitely not b/c of a wider frame. His shoulder width is not even close to Big Show’s. Click Here If he appeared wide, it’s b/c of excessive fat in the chest area which then pushed his arms outward as well as the arms themselves being extremely fat.
Before he got so fat, Haystacks looked relatively narrow shouldered Click Here Click Here unlike Click Here dicksock says on 11/Jan/12
In that last picture(the black and white one) of Haystacks that JT posted, Haystacks is listed as ~6'8.5" and 573lbs. I agree. Plus, wasn't Haystacks weighed on some British show as almost 700lbs. If so, do some here believe that the weigh-in was a fraud? Lastly, I find it hard to believe that he was the same height in the 90s that he was in the 70s and early 80s. He definitely seemed taller next to Pat Roach in 1982 than he did in 1991. He might have gone from 6'8" to 6'7". Chaz says on 11/Jan/12
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if anyone thinks that is anywere nere Haystacks size,they must be living in a dream would, Boss says on 11/Jan/12
Don't know much about Haystacks actual peak but found this interesting. Big show had about five inches on him but was Haystacks was past peak height. Big Show had a footware advantage and much better posture. So more like 4 inch with same posture.
Noel Ruane (haystacks Son)
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I'm just sat in my office with my mother (Rita). I want to settle the mystery surrounding my Fathers height. The Guiness Book of records validated his height and weight so that official entry in to their world famous book could be done with accuracy and verification. I remember them calling to our house at the time! He measured 6ft11 in his socks and my mother only weighed about 7 stone, in fact she still only weighs about 7 stone today!!
He was truly a Giant, our house wasn't large enough and the doors were of course a real problem as he had to bend down and turn sideways to pass his giant frame through the openning. To me this was my Dad, to an unsuspecting visitor this was a Giant comming in to the room.
To conclude; it is unequivocal Giant Haystacks stood 6ft 11in from the floor!!!12
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RP says on 16/Nov/11
Also....on real weight of the 80's & 90's stars...Sid Euddy "Sid Vicous" said in an interview after his horrific leg injury that he was 6'7" & 305 lbs. At the time WWF was Billing him at 6'9" & 318 lbs. Also...known fact that John Studd Was actually 6'7" & 320-330...350 at his heaviest in '89...Not 6'10" & his billed weights that ranged from 362-384 during his tenure with the WWF. Studd "Swinton" later in retirement said himself that at his Wrestlemania I "1985" match with Andre that he was 6'7" & 325 lbs & that Andre was 7'0" & 475 lbs.
Where did you see this interview with Studd. Boss says on 11/Jan/12
RP says on 16/Nov/11
Also....on real weight of the 80's & 90's stars...Sid Euddy "Sid Vicous" said in an interview after his horrific leg injury that he was 6'7" & 305 lbs. At the time WWF was Billing him at 6'9" & 318 lbs. Also...known fact that John Studd Was actually 6'7" & 320-330...350 at his heaviest in '89...Not 6'10" & his billed weights that ranged from 362-384 during his tenure with the WWF. Studd "Swinton" later in retirement said himself that at his Wrestlemania I "1985" match with Andre that he was 6'7" & 325 lbs & that Andre was 7'0" & 475 lbs.
Where did you see this interview with Studd. Chaz says on 11/Jan/12
JT it's no good posting pics of Viscera close up with he's shirt off,because you allways look bigger with cloths off,thats why Fat people like to were baggy tops,and Bodybuilders,dont look so big untill,they take there shirts off,and Haystacks was at he's top weight from 1987-89,he was only 38st in that photo,look at sumo wreslers in there gowns,they dont look that big,untill they take them off,and like I say show me Viscera in closes were he looks as big as Haystacks in that fight with Daly,you can tell the way Haystacks moves he's much heavier,Viscera's too light on he's feet to be over 500lbs let alone the 46st 8lbs,Haystacks was weighed at in 1988,Tenta was not much lighter than Viscera,he had much bigger legs than him from the sumo training,and I have seen Tenta,come in the same Door as Haystacks(not at the same time)and Hayatacks had to turn side ways and duck he's head to get in the ring,Tenta walked right in that door without any problems,and Haystacks made PN News look thin,and he was fat as a big,side on Haystacks is much wider than any of them,and got much bigger legs and feet,show me were anyone side on made Big Show look thin like Haystacks did in 1996,he was 2 times as wide. JT says on 11/Jan/12
Big Show, if you use Google Chrome as your browser, it can translate websites for you. The translation is far from perfect although you can usually make out what is written.
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Haystacks was likely taller than Viscera but did not look any heavier or wider
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Haystacks was probably larger around the mid section at peak weight although I’ll let others do a more detailed analysis of their respective anatomies.... kg says on 10/Jan/12
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bigman says on 6/Jan/12
i said if wilt nothing about andre lets say andres top weight then chaz of around 530-550lbs wouuld wilt or even 380lbs would he look as tall simply no no no no no all day long
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well this guy is easily 450lb and he still looks well over 7ft...... Click Here Click Here
if andre was taller than big show then wight was never taller than 6'9
as for kamala he was about 2 inches taller than yokozuna barefoot in 1993 and there is a good staredown between yoko barefoot and bret hart in boots around same time
I used to wonder why Danimal would easily get so annoyed with and now I see why. With post like this I too get annoyed with a bit of confusion. Have you ever met Kamala? I met him in 2007 and he wrestled Jake Roberts who is said to be around 6'5 and I believe it because he was taller than my 6'4 brother and Kamala was at least as tall as Roberts if not taller b/c of boot advantage. As far as Andre and Show go do you still honestly believe that garbage Meltzer spouted? I mean how manytimes have people on here put his claims to shame?! He said Big Show was 6'10 and Nash was 6'10 plus two or three claims of Andre between 6'9 3/4-6'11.5. It is Safe to say if Andre was taller peak wise than Show, Show can still peak at 7ft! Big Show says on 10/Jan/12
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Nice one on the Google translate. How were you able to translate Japanese into English?
As for the pic of Andre & Quasimodo, although it’s from a 1970 Japanese magazine, I believe the original pic itself is older than that. Andre appeared in a US wrestling magazine (probably for the first time) in 1968 and he was wearing that same robe. My guess is this pic is from the same year. Considering Andre was billed often at 210cm around that time, they could’ve just translated the numbers from that time aswell. Andre & Quasimodo did tag in Japan in 1970. Don’t know what Andre was billed in his first Japanese tour in 1970. In his 2nd in 1971 he was billed at 218cm & 180kg.
Kamala was a big guy. 6’4-6’5” sounds a believable number for him. You could hardly pin down his height from his wrestling matches as he always slouched during his matches. Believe it or not, he was billed at 6’10” down in WCCW.
There was nothing wrong with Haystacks posture when he faced Paul Wight in 1996, so I doubt he would’ve lost much height by then. Chaz says on 10/Jan/12
JT, Haystacks is much bigger than Viscera,show me were he's this size,Dally is just as big as Viscera,he's just a lot shorter,Haystacks is much much wider in the body,bigger back legs arm and chest Click Here Vegas says on 10/Jan/12
decent video of kamala next to hall, here is luger next to hall in a similiar video around same time, luger would be 6'4 tops in his boots Click Here
dicksock, haystacks was billed 202cm in germany in the early 1990s Chaz says on 10/Jan/12
JT,you may be right about he's height but Vicera,is no were nere Haystacks weight lol Click Here Boss says on 9/Jan/12
So if Kamala was a legit 6'5 than how tall does that Hogan. JT says on 9/Jan/12
Andre and Quasimodo (Victor Castilla) from Japan. Click Here
Through Google Translate, the web site (in Japanese) referred to Andre as 210 cm. and Castilla as 160 cm. (5’3”) but Castilla looks taller and probably closer to 5’7” or 5'8" given the camera angle.
Kamala looked around 6’4” to me although he did wrestle barefoot and rarely stood straight. With 6’5” tops Scott Hall:
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dicksock, Haystacks did not lose 2 inches by 1996. With 5’8” Dynamite Kid from 1980 Click Here Click Here
IMO he was probably in the 6’7” range at peak height and may have lost a ½ inch to 1 inch max by 1996. He was never close to 700 lbs. but was likely over 500 lbs. for a good portion of his career. I doubt he weighed more than Mabel/Viscera has in recent years. Boss says on 9/Jan/12
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Chaz says on 7/Jan/12
Well then Dicksock pause that at 1min 46 secs ana 1min 51 sec and tell me how tall that makes Haystacks,if Kamala's nere 6'6''Ray can not reach him when he's standing up right,?Click Here
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I don't know how tall a prime Haystacks was. Maybe 6'8"-6'9" tops. Just admit that Kamala is 4" taller than 6'1" Chris. Even Chris said he looked 6'5". It is possible that Haystacks peaked at 6'8.5" and was down to 6'6.5" by the time he got to WCW. He had serious health problems and weighed nearly 700lbs!
I would agree with that. Chaz says on 9/Jan/12
dicksock,I can not argue,about that photo of Chris.because if he is 6.1''then unless Kamala was in Kane boots,then he looka 4''taller,and to be fair I have seen Pat Roach standing next to Geoff Capes back in 1979,and I could not seen much differance in height,they looked the same height. dicksock says on 8/Jan/12
Chaz says on 7/Jan/12
Well then Dicksock pause that at 1min 46 secs ana 1min 51 sec and tell me how tall that makes Haystacks,if Kamala's nere 6'6''Ray can not reach him when he's standing up right,?Click Here
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I don't know how tall a prime Haystacks was. Maybe 6'8"-6'9" tops. Just admit that Kamala is 4" taller than 6'1" Chris. Even Chris said he looked 6'5". It is possible that Haystacks peaked at 6'8.5" and was down to 6'6.5" by the time he got to WCW. He had serious health problems and weighed nearly 700lbs! dicksock says on 8/Jan/12
Boss says on 7/Jan/12
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Boss says on 5/Jan/12
Andre's head was at least .5 in longer than Big Show's.
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I doubt that. Even if it was, what does that to do with anything?
Jt said they were the same length and they are not. Andre's head is longer than Show's.
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The bottom half of Andre's head is longer, but Show's top half is longer. I find it hard to believe you can tell the length of their heads with that kind of accuracy. I would just say that their heads are about the same size. Chaz says on 7/Jan/12
Well then Dicksock pause that at 1min 46 secs ana 1min 51 sec and tell me how tall that makes Haystacks,if Kamala's nere 6'6''Ray can not reach him when he's standing up right,? Click Here Chaz says on 7/Jan/12
Capt,Nobody,I get Haystacks being 6'9-10''from the so called 6'6''Kamala having no more than 2''on 6'2''Ray Steele,yet Haystacks has a good 5'6''taller,so Iver Kamala is only 6'4''and Haystacks about 6'7-8''at the time,or he's 6'10''and Hogan was not much taller than Kamala if any.and if you look you can also find Kamala v Big Daddy in the UK and he's not any more than 2''taller than him. dicksock says on 7/Jan/12
Vegas says on 7/Jan/12
as for kamala he was about 2 inches taller than yokozuna barefoot in 1993 and there is a good staredown between yoko barefoot and bret hart in boots around same time
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As for Kamala, he was about 4" taller than 6'1" Chris. Boss says on 7/Jan/12
Vegas says on 7/Jan/12
bigman says on 6/Jan/12
i said if wilt nothing about andre lets say andres top weight then chaz of around 530-550lbs wouuld wilt or even 380lbs would he look as tall simply no no no no no all day long
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well this guy is easily 450lb and he still looks well over 7ft...... Click Here Click Here
if andre was taller than big show then wight was never taller than 6'9
as for kamala he was about 2 inches taller than yokozuna barefoot in 1993 and there is a good staredown between yoko barefoot and bret hart in boots around same time
Alright there Super Vegas. What a crock never taller than 6'9. Boss says on 7/Jan/12
dicksock says on 6/Jan/12
Boss says on 5/Jan/12
Andre's head was at least .5 in longer than Big Show's.
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I doubt that. Even if it was, what does that to do with anything?
Jt said they were the same length and they are not. Andre's head is longer than Show's. Vegas says on 7/Jan/12
bigman says on 6/Jan/12
i said if wilt nothing about andre lets say andres top weight then chaz of around 530-550lbs wouuld wilt or even 380lbs would he look as tall simply no no no no no all day long
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well this guy is easily 450lb and he still looks well over 7ft...... Click Here Click Here
if andre was taller than big show then wight was never taller than 6'9
as for kamala he was about 2 inches taller than yokozuna barefoot in 1993 and there is a good staredown between yoko barefoot and bret hart in boots around same time Chaz says on 7/Jan/12
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If Hogan and Kamala were nere 6'6''then 6'4.5''Pat Roach was to,and that makes Haystacks 6'9-10'' Capt. Nobody says on 6/Jan/12
Oh, and on the Andre/Show head comparison, check your respective pixel lengths JT, I don't even have to, I can fully well see what's happening in that comparison. Capt. Nobody says on 6/Jan/12
JT says on 4/Jan/12
Andre was literally wearing Herman Munster shoes in that staredown with Hogan from 1988. He was never more than 5 inches taller than Hogan in comparable footwear.
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so figure out Hogan’s peak height (which was under 6'7")and you’ll have Andre’s.
I made the 1996 Hogan a little shorter here Click Here even though there is ZERO evidence of any height loss for him by this time
Boss, as you know, Andre’s head was not longer than Big Show’s Click Here
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I wonder if Andre went to the same Big and Tall that Show did for his wrestling boots? Capt. Nobody says on 6/Jan/12
Chaz says on 5/Jan/12
if Hogan and Kamara were 6'5.5-6'then Giant Haystacks was 6'10-11'',and Ray Steele 6'4'' lol
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I have no idea how you get that, Haystacks looked about the same height as OMG and Tenta in the DOD days. logan noll 1996 says on 6/Jan/12
7 foot 2. Most people who are whatever feet and two inches are billed as whatever feet and four inches. dicksock says on 6/Jan/12
Chaz says on 5/Jan/12
if Hogan and Kamara were 6'5.5-6'then Giant Haystacks was 6'10-11'',and Ray Steele 6'4'' lol
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You're really going to have to eat your words now. Chris just proved that Kamala is indeed around 6'5"! He dwarfs 6'1" Chris! Hogan had a couple inches on a barefoot Kamala. How can you claim that a peak Hogan was not even 6'5"? That is just insane. Hogan was easily 6'5.5" and now that we all know how tall Kamala is, that just makes it more likely that he was 6'6" or better. So what's your excuse for Kamala being so much taller than Chris in a perfectly legitimate picture. No one is in front of anybody, there are no posture issues, no footware issues, and no camera angle issues. Let me guess; Chris is really 5'10"! Also, Kamala looked around 3" taller than Ray Steele anyway. Red says on 6/Jan/12
Nice pic Chris, Kamala looks no less than 6´4.5" next to you, Snuka 5´10" bigman says on 6/Jan/12
ye kamala not even standing completely straight still has 5-6" on chris here wat people fail to realise on this page if your just under someones eye level its not 3" its more 5-6". with andres head if you were up to his nose say you cud still find yourself 7" a drift of the giant. bigman says on 6/Jan/12
i said if wilt nothing about andre lets say andres top weight then chaz of around 530-550lbs wouuld wilt or even 380lbs would he look as tall simply no no no no no all day long.andre was taller than show at his peak he admitted it himself and hogan said it too so did macho man duggan said they were around the same. dicksock says on 6/Jan/12
Boss says on 5/Jan/12
Andre's head was at least .5 in longer than Big Show's.
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I doubt that. Even if it was, what does that to do with anything? Boss says on 5/Jan/12
RP says on 4/Jan/12
Want to make a follow up to Chuck Whepner's claim. Chuck has a grudge against Stallone & has said a lot of things vs Sly in the past. And, actually about 5 years ago in 2006 when Rocky Balboa was released Chuck was talking about his match with Andre in an interview and refered to Andre as being 7'ft tall & 430 lbs. So, who knows with this guy?
RP says on 4/Jan/12
Just heard an interesting claim from Chuck Whepner in a radio interview. He claims that Andre The Giant was 6'11.5" & 390 lbs when they had their boxer vs wrestler match in the mid-70's. And that's why Stallone use those measurements in the script for Rocky 3.
Could you post this interview. dicksock says on 5/Jan/12
Chaz says on 4/Jan/12
Here is a peak height Kamala, billed here at 6'6''and 355lbs next to 6'2''215lbs Ray Steele Click Here
any one see 4'' height differnce ?
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It looks like there's at least 2" between them and maybe 3". If Ray Steele was really around 6'2" then Kamala was about 6'4". If Hogan was 3" taller than a barefoot Kamala, that would make him 6'7" in his thinly heeled wrestling boots. Does a ~6'6" peak Hogan really surprise you? We have that 6'6" announcer from Wrestlemania II saying that Hogan was about his height. Chris says on 5/Jan/12
I met Kamala a couple of years ago at a convention. He was walking with noticeable bad knees. He looked like he had orthopedic tennis shoes on. I was surprised he was as tall as he was…I always pegged him around 6’3” or so…but he was definitely taller than that… looked around 6’5” or a bit taller (even accounting his shoes). He was walking around the convention most of the day so I got a pretty good read on him.
Here’s a good straight-on photo with me, Kamala and Jimmy Snuka. Kamala lifted his head up in this photo, but I think you will agree he’s at least 4” taller than me (6’1”).
I had on regular tennis shoes and Snuka was wearing sandels (standing slightly in front me). I have posted another straight-on photo of myself with Snuka. He’s probably right around 5’10ish…but no shorter.
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if Hogan and Kamara were 6'5.5-6'then Giant Haystacks was 6'10-11'',and Ray Steele 6'4'' lol Boss says on 5/Jan/12
JT says on 4/Jan/12
Boss, as you know, Andre’s head was not longer than Big Show’s Click Here
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yet three months from now you’ll be back regurgitating this same claim as well as the purported Frenchy Bernard comment and other B.S. about Andre.
Anytime I post anything here I always back it up. Other posters are entitled to know all the info we know and I've done too much research on Andre. I remember when JT, Vegas used to quote tributes 2 like it was the gospel saying Andre was 6'9.75 peak. Yet Meltzer claimed Andre was 6'11.5 with a 7'0.5 Wilt. Meltzer also claimed Andre to be 6'11 in the first Tributes. JT hid the email where sports illustrated writer Terry Todd claimed 7' peak for Andre which I found on a forum and posted here. As for the Frenchy Bernard story it does ring true just by Ronnie's lack of knowledge on Andre and Frenchy he knew a little to much to being making it up. It sounds like he did visit the ranch and least talk to Frenchy about Andre but what was said for sure we may never know. I truly don 't beleive that someone would go to that extent to lie about someone else's height. We have Ernie Ladd stating in a shoot interview when asked if him and Andre were around the same height, Ladd states I'm 6'9 and Andre was taller than me by far. So that proves Meltzer wrong again. JT and company were again quoting it on a daily basis that Ladd and Andre were the same height. They hated the Wilt photos however because they couldn 't justify Andre being under 6'11 so I would post them all the time. I emailed Mike Mooneyham he stated Andre was a bit over 7' peak and that he lost height and yes I know he stated Andre was 7'2 in his obituary to Andre but I never thought to ask why he changed his estimate. I asked Andre's nephew what was Andre's peak height and he said Andre would always say 2.18m. Andre's trainer also stated this height for Andre. These things plus to much more to list are much better proof than comparing some photos of a broken down non peak Andre. Andre was taller when he was young with good posture
and was measured at 6'10 when he died in France to see if he would fit in the crematorium as we know from his obituary. Boss says on 5/Jan/12
Andre's head was at least .5 in longer than Big Show's. Chaz says on 5/Jan/12
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Any one see 4'' here? Chaz says on 4/Jan/12
now here is the same Ray Steele next to Giant Haystacks,at least 5-6 inch shorter,in fact if you look at 1,46secs were Haystacks stands upright as Ray hits him,there could be 7''diffance Click Here Chaz says on 4/Jan/12
Here is a peak height Kamala, billed here at 6'6''and 355lbs next to 6'2''215lbs Ray Steele Click Here
any one see 4'' height differnce ? Chaz says on 4/Jan/12
Yer your 6'6''Hogan realy had 3'' on a barefoot Kamala,and he's got he's knees bent,most of the time Click Here Mark says on 4/Jan/12
I like it, Iconnjj. Might not be exact, but looks pretty close. JT says on 4/Jan/12
Andre was literally wearing Herman Munster shoes in that staredown with Hogan from 1988. He was never more than 5 inches taller than Hogan in comparable footwear.
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so figure out Hogan’s peak height (which was under 6'7")and you’ll have Andre’s.
I made the 1996 Hogan a little shorter here Click Here even though there is ZERO evidence of any height loss for him by this time
Boss, as you know, Andre’s head was not longer than Big Show’s Click Here
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yet three months from now you’ll be back regurgitating this same claim as well as the purported Frenchy Bernard comment and other B.S. about Andre. Boss says on 4/Jan/12
I don't know why people are constantly comparing a late 80's - early 90's Andre with a prime Big Show. Whether it's posture, surgery, mass weight gain(which would cause height loss due to joint cartilage being reduced to almost nothing), and curving of the spine. All of these factors would contribute to Andre being taller at his peak than later in life. Boss says on 3/Jan/12
Chuck says on 3/Jan/12
Iconjj says on 2/Jan/12
Just for kicks
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An inch difference
Only one problem, by that time hogan had already lost at least an inch in height, so using him to compare Andre and Wight doesn't work.
Good point. There is also a footware advantage for Big Show over Andre when both men are in ring gear but in this case it's about the same. Also Show has much better posture than Andre. Andre was at least an inch taller in his prime with good posture. Icon's work is excellent. Just a couple extra factors. Andre and Big Show would have been the virtually the same height barefoot both at their peak heights. Chaz says on 3/Jan/12
here we go again,Hogan the Incredible Shrinking wrestler lol this is a 298lbs man,that by the age of 35 seems to have lost more height than a 652lbs 49 year old Giant Haystacks lol,Hogan did not have more that a 1''on a barefoot 6'4''Kamala.Andre was never over 6'11'' no matter how much some may want him to be a real 7 footer, Iconjj says on 3/Jan/12
Chuck says on 3/Jan/12
Iconjj says on 2/Jan/12
Just for kicks
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An inch difference
Only one problem, by that time hogan had already lost at least an inch in height, so using him to compare Andre and Wight doesn't work.
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There's no confirmation that Hogan lost ANY height in that time period other than a few posters here trying to justify why Big Show seems taller to Hogan compared to Andre. I haven't seen proof of it sorry.
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As I said before, Hogan lifts his head there's no difference. Chuck says on 3/Jan/12
Iconjj says on 2/Jan/12
Just for kicks
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An inch difference
Only one problem, by that time hogan had already lost at least an inch in height, so using him to compare Andre and Wight doesn't work. Chaz says on 3/Jan/12
Bigman, Andre was no 450lbs in 1975 next to Shoemaker,he was 380lbs at most,and he is not over 6,11''then miko says on 3/Jan/12
If Andre was 7'0, Hogan was 6'7, it's that simple. There was a 5 inch difference between them from the late 70's all the way to 1987 at Wrestlemania 3. Apart from when Andre had his massive cowboy boots on and it could look 6 inches.
Hogan was never anywhere near 6'7, and somewhere between 6'5 and 6'6. Andre was 5 inches taller, add it up. bigman says on 3/Jan/12
if wilt was 450lbs would he look as tall simply no. Capt. Nobody says on 2/Jan/12
I'm still waiting on anyone else' attempt at using Andre's 12 inch head as a reference for an exact height measurement, heck at the very least to cross check the work I did before where I got a relaxed posture Andre at around 6'10.5". Capt. Nobody says on 2/Jan/12
Vegas says on 31/Dec/11
Capt. Nobody says on 30/Dec/11
I think this debate is over for the most part. Big Show is your perfect estimator for Andre's height.
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how is a guy who never stood next to or met andre the perfect estimator for andres height?? that makes no sense even coming from you, sure you can compare how andre and wight measured up to certain individuals seeing as they both stood next to the likes of hogan,flair, dibiase, gene, vince etc but comparing something like that is alot different than the two men actually standing next to each other, photos especially can be flawed, when i started here people were posting this shot to prove billy graham was legit 6'4 Click Here dirk close to bradleys height in this shot, in reality dirk is 7-8 inches shorter than bradley Click Here
even the wight shaq meeting, some photos wight looks to edge it but in reality shaq was taller e.g Click Here
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You ask, and then go on to pretty much answer your own question, so how's that for making sense? There is enough evidence out there from ring comparisons, to people comparisons, and more than enough to find pretty darn good similarities between photos. Boss says on 2/Jan/12
I don't think Andre was ever 7'1.5 nor do I think he was 6'10 peak since he was measured at this height when he died in 1993. 6'11.5 peak is probably right on the money but a half an inch is too close to judge when know we don't his exact head size. We do know his head was not only larger than Big Show's who JT measured at 12 in but longer as well. So I think Rob has it right for a peak Andre. Iconjj says on 2/Jan/12
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An inch difference Boss says on 2/Jan/12
This is from a man who met Andre on 2 occassions and was obsessed with Andre's real height. This is some solid evidence of Andre's real peak height.
Look, everyone of you is waaay off. I personally have met Andre the Giant on two ocassions, once when I was 12 at Madison square garden, and once again when i was 22 in Lakeland FL. I was obsessed with wrestler's height's at the time, He gave me his autograph, and I asked him how tall he really was. He told me that he did not know for sure what his height was, but his personal handler knew, and I should ask him. His handler said that at age 24, Andre was legitamately measured at 7'1.5 ... and i believe him, because when i was 12, he had to duck to go through the 7 foot tall doorways in madison square garden. When i was 22, he was shorter, after having had two surgeries.. about 6'11.
From Andre's nephew.
Ok. to answer to the real peak height of Andre : It's impossible to give a real answer because I don't know his real height peak. The only thing I know that Andre tell us all the time that his height is 2,18 meters. That's it ! It's not important for Andre's article... --User:Roussimoff Boris Andre's Nephew. February 6th 2007, at 1:45 PM eastern time. Chaz says on 2/Jan/12
The announcer,did not say 3''he's say's(about)3''and the fact,Vince tell's him keep away from the Boys in the ring, should tell you everything. dicksock says on 1/Jan/12
Here's an even better picture of Andre and Bruno:
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If anyone wants to make a good Andre/Gonzalez comparison, I think I have a good idea:
Here is a video with a perfect comparison of Gonzalez and Jim Ross:
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Somebody should use the pictures of Andre and Bruno Sammartino and compare it with Gonzalez and Ross. Bruno and Ross are virtually the same height.
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Here is Andre and Bruno:
Click Here Tuga says on 1/Jan/12
Interesting email there but andre 6'9 by wm2?? No way, even in his last match andre still looked a good 6'10.
About hogan that seems accurate and more plausible since they were close in height, so it would make an easier estimate, with andre it would be harder to estimate since he was still quite taller and also andre proportions didn´t help. Capt. Nobody says on 31/Dec/11
JT says on 30/Dec/11
Halb says on 29/Dec/11
Can the mail from the WM2 ring announcer be printed again please?
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So, Hulk 6'5" to 6'6" huh? Guess that question was answered too then? haha. dicksock says on 31/Dec/11
JT says on 30/Dec/11
Halb says on 29/Dec/11
Can the mail from the WM2 ring announcer be printed again please?
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I would say that is solid proof that a prime Hogan was 6'5"-6'6". Didn't this same guy claim that Andre was 6'10"-6'11" in a different email? I'm sure nobody on this forum believes that Andre was only 6'9". Also, someone posted a decent shot of Andre and that announcer and Andre looked around 5" taller. Vegas says on 31/Dec/11
Capt. Nobody says on 30/Dec/11
I think this debate is over for the most part. Big Show is your perfect estimator for Andre's height.
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how is a guy who never stood next to or met andre the perfect estimator for andres height?? that makes no sense even coming from you, sure you can compare how andre and wight measured up to certain individuals seeing as they both stood next to the likes of hogan,flair, dibiase, gene, vince etc but comparing something like that is alot different than the two men actually standing next to each other, photos especially can be flawed, when i started here people were posting this shot to prove billy graham was legit 6'4 Click Here dirk close to bradleys height in this shot, in reality dirk is 7-8 inches shorter than bradley Click Here
even the wight shaq meeting, some photos wight looks to edge it but in reality shaq was taller e.g Click Here Boss says on 31/Dec/11
JT says on 30/Dec/11
Halb says on 29/Dec/11
Can the mail from the WM2 ring announcer be printed again please?
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So he saying that Hogan was 3 inches shorter than Andre. He is also saying Hogan
was 6'6 or so. Capt. Nobody says on 30/Dec/11
Iconjj says on 30/Dec/11
Logan, as much as I would like for Andre to be 7'4, he was just not one of the guys billed his actual height. The Wilt photo is a perfect example of this. Andre is in good posture AND in cowboy boots, and he is only Wilt's height. Even photos from his early days show him not to be 7'4.
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I think this debate is over for the most part. Big Show is your perfect estimator for Andre's height. I say try a comparison with the Shaq/Show staredown cross referenced with the Andre/Wilt shots. I can already tell you what you're going to get though. ha! JT says on 30/Dec/11
Halb says on 29/Dec/11
Can the mail from the WM2 ring announcer be printed again please?
Click Here Iconjj says on 30/Dec/11
Logan, as much as I would like for Andre to be 7'4, he was just not one of the guys billed his actual height. The Wilt photo is a perfect example of this. Andre is in good posture AND in cowboy boots, and he is only Wilt's height. Even photos from his early days show him not to be 7'4. Halb says on 29/Dec/11
Can the mail from the WM2 ring announcer be printed again please? logan noll 1996 says on 29/Dec/11
Danimal, some wrestlers ARE AS TALL AS THEY ARE BILLED. jasperwazap says on 28/Dec/11
On the ESPN bit about the 'Real Rocky' about boxer Chuck Wepner. I thought Wepner really was 6'5''+. but i guess the deceptive photos with him with other celebs put my observation off. there is a photo shown with Chuck Wepner standing beside Sly. now Sly comes just below his nose in one photo and 4''-5'' below chuck in another photo. So Sly was wearing generous lifts in both pictures. So Sly ends up making 5'11'' guys look bad. There was another photo with Sly being towered by Chuck by almost 8'' so Sly definetly wasn't wearing lifts then. in that particular photo. Another Celeb Dan Aykroyd who's 6'1'' only looks a bit shorter than Chuck but Aykroyd is nearer the camera than Wepner so the differnce is more aay 3''-4'' so Chuck is a 6'5'' guy that's fair to say. Big Show says on 28/Dec/11
Boss says on 27/Dec/11
Andre was diagnosed in Japan for his condition at age 22 and the biography commentator states at age 22 Andre was told he had already lived half his life.
So some people on here don't know as much as they think they do.
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Last I checked Andre was born in May 1946 and he first wrestled in Japan in January 1970. That would make him 23 years of age.
Unless Andre had himself medically checked up in Japan a year before he went over there to wrestle, he couldn’t have been diagnosed in Japan at age 22.
Like I said, the Michael Krugman biography stated Andre was diagnosed with Acromegaly when he had his first wrestling stint over there (which was early 1970). The Ross Davies biography stated Andre went to Japan to wrestle for IWE and that it was his first visit to Japan.
It sounds more logical that he went to see a doctor in Japan, when he was wrestling over there, instead of flying all the way over there just for a medical opinion. If he wanted to have an expert opinion on Acromegaly I’m sure he could’ve gotten it in France aswell. They’re after all the discoverers of Acromegaly. dicksock says on 27/Dec/11
Boss says on 27/Dec/11
Andre was diagnosed in Japan for his condition at age 22 and the biography commentator states at age 22 Andre was told he had already lived half his life.
So some people on here don't know as much as they think they do.
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That documentary claimed that Wrestlemania III took place in the summer of 1986. It also says that Andre was 7' tall at the age of 18, despite getting billed at 6'10". Plus, Frenchy Bernard was featured quite a bit in that documentary. You'd think he would have shared his knowledge of Andre's measurement. Andre was 22 in 1968. He was not in Japan until around 1970. So you're right; some people here don't know as much as they think...including you. dicksock says on 27/Dec/11
Boss says on 26/Dec/11
Big Show says on 25/Dec/11
I don't claim I'm always right, but when it comes to Andre I just know a lot more about the guy than you do.
I guess that's why Rob and every other major site on the net has Andre at 7' peak
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What other major site focuses specifically on height? I can promise you that Big Show, JT, and many other posters have spent more time studying Andre's height than Rob or any of the other sites that you're referring to. Phil says on 27/Dec/11
I would say 7'1" peak for Andre and then 6'10"-6'11" in his later years (circa 85 onwards). If you look at the numerous Hogan Andre staredowns when Hogan was (peak 6'5"- 6'6") Andre was definitely around the 7 foot mark give or take an inch. Boss says on 27/Dec/11
Andre was diagnosed in Japan for his condition at age 22 and the biography commentator states at age 22 Andre was told he had already lived half his life.
So some people on here don't know as much as they think they do.
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jasperwazap says on 19/Dec/11
Andre looked half a head taller than the boxer Chuck Wepner who gets listed at 6'5.'5'' but honestly he could have been really 6'3'' range.
He wasn't really 6'3". He fought Muhammed Ali, who was 6'3" and he was every bit 6'5"-6'6". Danimal says on 26/Dec/11
logan noll 1996 says on 24/Dec/11
7 foot 4 seems right. Andre the Giant appears as being over 7 foot, you can't forget that he slouched do to his illness. Also, 7 foot sounds too small for Andre.
I'm assuming you're 15 years old based on your name. You'll realize when you're older that wrestlers are not their biled heights. Andre was never 7'4". He was MAX 7'0", give or take .5". Boss says on 26/Dec/11
Big Show says on 25/Dec/11
I don't claim I'm always right, but when it comes to Andre I just know a lot more about the guy than you do.
I guess that's why Rob and every other major site on the net has Andre at 7' peak not what you and your crowd claim for Andre except for Meltzer of course. So remember that before you open your BiG Mouth about what I know there Big Show. andre says on 26/Dec/11
When you Rob will measure the house door of André the giant in france
because he left with 18 at 22 he must end is growth
Please ask you this 1 year ago:(
Then measure the door and get the results
[Editor Rob: I don't know when I will visit France.] eric 1 says on 26/Dec/11
Andre was no more the 7 ft tall. I'd even go with 6ft 11. At the end of his career he was no more then 6ft9 and change. dicksock says on 26/Dec/11
Here is a question for anyone: Where did the author of "Pain and Passion: The History of Stampede Wrestling", Heath McCoy, get his 6'11" claim for Andre? He claimed that when Andre first debuted in Stampede, he was 6'11" and 350lbs. This seems to match up to much of the evidence that has been presented on this site, the 6'6" announcer from WM II, and the one wrestling promoter from the 70s who claimed Andre was 6'10-6'11". I think it's clear that Andre was 6'11". Big Show says on 25/Dec/11
Boss says on 23/Dec/11
Here it is and judge for yourself. It rings very true in my ears because of the amount of information I've seen and read on Andre. Ronnie clearly doesn't know enough about Andre and Frenchy to just make this up so I believe he is telling the truth. Big Show your a Big Show fanboy so of course Andre is going to be an inch shorter than your favourite wrestler no matter what anyone says and you always think your right about everything and the same to JT, Vegas and the Big Show fanboys club.
I've read Ronnie Russel's claim so unlike you I don't need a refreshment of memory. He claims he would post that interview on Youtube, but he never did. Yet you continue to act as if we have proof that Frenchy Bernard claimed Andre was measured at 7'0.5" in Japan. Well tough luck for you. This site is about providing proof, so next time you quote this interview, be sure to provide the actual interview aswell. But we know you won't as providing proof is not something you're very good at. I don't claim I'm always right, but when it comes to Andre I just know a lot more about the guy than you do. logan noll 1996 says on 24/Dec/11
7 foot 4 seems right. Andre the Giant appears as being over 7 foot, you can't forget that he slouched do to his illness. Also, 7 foot sounds too small for Andre. JT says on 24/Dec/11
Here’s our “honest” Frenchy Bernard spreading the claim that Andre was 7’4” (at 0:56) Click Here
drummer777 says on 21/Dec/11
Chuck wepner did wear big boots...
Unlike andre:) Iconjj says on 24/Dec/11
Actually Dicksock, whats funny about that is before I came onto this site this morning I was working on an Andre-Gonzales comparison. It's not much but interesting nonetheless. I wasn't going to post it, but since you brought it up, I figure what the heck, lol.
Click Here dicksock says on 23/Dec/11
Iconjj: Hey, I know you've made a lot of Andre/Big Show comparisons using footage of them from Madison Square Garden. Well, here is a video of The Giant Gonzalez and The Undertaker from MSG.
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It is a bootleg video, but I figured maybe it could be of some use to you. Boss says on 23/Dec/11
Here it is and judge for yourself. It rings very true in my ears because of the amount of information I've seen and read on Andre. Ronnie clearly doesn't know enough about Andre and Frenchy to just make this up so I believe he is telling the truth. Big Show your a Big Show fanboy so of course Andre is going to be an inch shorter than your favourite wrestler no matter what anyone says and you always think your right about everything and the same to JT, Vegas and the Big Show fanboys club.
Ronnie Russell says on 27/Feb/09 OK.....i will be posting a youtube video of the audio of the conversation i talk about below some time in the near future when i have a way to get the mini-tape recorder converted to an *.mp3
I stopped by Andre's ranch in Ellerby, NC, which is now run by some little cajun man named Bernard who has a terrible accent and spits when he talks...
Anyways, he was very nice and hospitible and loves having people visit the ranch and showing them the "Andre Archives" as it were. Some of the artifacts he has there are incredible. He travelled with Andre from the late sixties/early seventies and then again towards the end of his career when he was having a lot of mobility problems. He said at Andre's peak in his youth, when he didn't have any posture problems, he was 7'0.5", measured in japan when he was 22, and that he was around 6'9" at the time of death, because he couldnt stand any taller because of spinal curvature. He also told me that because of his medical condition causing a constant secretion of growth hormone, his bones and organs continued to grow in density and size straight through to the time of his death, so not only did he weigh alot from his fat, but his bones weighed more and his organs did as well. Big Show says on 22/Dec/11
Boss says on 21/Dec/11
Frenchy Bernard stated Andre was legitimately measured at age 22 at 7'0.5 in Japan while being diagnosed for his condition and that he lost height over his career to surgery and poor posture and the overall pounding his body took over his life. Frenchy was Andre's best friend and could have easily stated 7'4 but instead stated 7'0.5. Also Frenchy seems to be a pretty honest man and would have no reason to just make something as detailed has the whole Japan measurement.
Frenchy Bernard might be an honest person, but I'm not so sure about Ronnie Russell being so aswell. You know, that's the guy who claimed he interviewed Frenchy Bernard, where Bernard supposedly made this claim. He was going to provide us with said interview, but after 3 years we're still waiting.
I've argued with you on this before, but apparently you continue do delude all posters on this board, by leaving out that important piece of information (that it was in fact not Frenchy Bernard who made that claim, but just a ordinary poster on this board). And you seem to be doing that on more websites than just celebheights.
Andre didn't go to Japan until 1970. He was discovered by Japanese promoter Isao Yoshihara while he was wrestling in the UK (when he was already 23). He signed his contract with IWE in late 1969. And according to the Michael Krugman biography on Andre he was diagnosed with Acromegaly during his first run in Japan (which would be 1970). I'm willing to bet if someone really interviews Frenchy Bernard and asks him about said measurement and his claim, he would have no clue what you're talking about. Chris says on 22/Dec/11
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I was the one who made that photoshop poster years ago...I will find it and scan it in for you dicksock says on 22/Dec/11
Where did the Frenchy Bernard measurement claim come from? To my knowledge, nobody has ever posted any evidence of it. I'm pretty sure it's just a rumor. Andre wasn't even in Japan in 1968. He went to Japan in the early 70s. Iconjj says on 22/Dec/11
Chaz says on 22/Dec/11
More likely,Nash 6'9.5''Andre 6'10.5''Big Whow 6'11.5'' Wepner was not much if any taller than Joe Buggner,and he has never said he was taller than 6'4''so you can forget anything over 6'5''for Wepner
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At this point Chaz I'm not so quick to rule that out either. Vegas says on 22/Dec/11
Boss says on 21/Dec/11
Frenchy Bernard stated Andre was legitimately measured at age 22 at 7'0.5 in Japan
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yeah they measured him 7'0.5 age 22 and he was still being billed 208-210cm in france and 6'10 in england at age 23..... Chaz says on 22/Dec/11
More likely,Nash 6'9.5''Andre 6'10.5''Big Whow 6'11.5'' Wepner was not much if any taller than Joe Buggner,and he has never said he was taller than 6'4''so you can forget anything over 6'5''for Wepner kg says on 21/Dec/11
Ok, again does anyone still have that photo shop pic of all the giant wrestlers together? With people like Andre, Undertaker, Kane, Nash, Gonzales, Baba, etc...... Boss says on 21/Dec/11
Frenchy Bernard stated Andre was legitimately measured at age 22 at 7'0.5 in Japan while being diagnosed for his condition and that he lost height over his career to surgery and poor posture and the overall pounding his body took over his life. Frenchy was Andre's best friend and could have easily stated 7'4 but instead stated 7'0.5. Also Frenchy seems to be a pretty honest man and would have no reason to just make something as detailed has the whole Japan measurement. drummer777 says on 21/Dec/11
Chuck wepner did wear big boots... Iconjj says on 21/Dec/11
If you're using Wepner's mug shot as a reference point, take out Andre's fro and this is what comes out
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Iconjj says on 20/Dec/11
Everything I'm seeing between Nash, Paul and Andre is no more than two inches. 6'10 for Nash 6'11 for Andre, and 7' for Paul Wight. 7.05 for Andre in cowboy boots, 7'1 for Paul in his ring boots.
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I've been saying that for years. Although, I think Nash could be as low as 6'9.5". I'm fairly certain Andre wouldn't have been more than 2" taller than him. Halb says on 20/Dec/11
Hey Rob, will you put the estimation of the WM2 ref in the précis above? Iconjj says on 20/Dec/11
Everything I'm seeing between Nash, Paul and Andre is no more than two inches. 6'10 for Nash 6'11 for Andre, and 7' for Paul Wight. 7.05 for Andre in cowboy boots, 7'1 for Paul in his ring boots. JT says on 19/Dec/11
Click Here The footwear is a mystery as Chris pointed out
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This might be a new picture for you Chris Click Here
jasperwazap, Wepner said he is 6'5" and did look that height. 6'3" is too low. jasperwazap says on 19/Dec/11
Andre looked half a head taller than the boxer Chuck Wepner who gets listed at 6'5.'5'' but honestly he could have been really 6'3'' range. Chris says on 18/Dec/11
Hey guys -
I put together some screen caps from the recent ESPN special "The Real Rocky"...Pretty interesting.
First, here's a screen shot of Chuck Wepner's arrest photo in front of a height chart:
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The top of Chuck's head is right at 6'6"
next is a shot of Andre next to Chuck...I tried my best to find where Chuck stepped back to line up with Andre.
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I superimposed Chuck's side shot from his mugshot to the previous ...adjusted for realignment and this is what I came up with:
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It's pretty much what has been shown here before but now with some sort of regulated measuring chart....6'6" is right at Andre's eyebrows...The comparison roughly shows Andre standing somewhere around 6'11ish...
Now, if we only knew what kind of shoes both men were wearing that day :)
Here's a closeup screen shot of Andre's fist next to Wepner's....That's one big fist!
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I have a copy of Andre's 1978 appearance in BJ and the Bear with 6'3" Greg Evian...Both men appear in one screen barefoot...However, no good shots of them standing up straight beside each other...Here's the best I could find, though.
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