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Andre The Giant Height

Andre The Giant's height is 6 ft 11.5 in (212 cm)
French Wrestler, Actor from The Princess Bride. Official site gives him 7ft 4, also shows his 'measured' height from wrestlemania 3 (1987) as a whopping 7ft 5. Yes, the guy suffered from acromelagy and was supposedyly 6ft 7 age 17.
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Frank says on 6/Oct/08
I know Ladd was listed @ 6ft 9 but he does not look that tall to me i would say he looks about 6ft 7 next to Vince and Andre looked atleast 3 inches taller than Ladd if he straighted up

Big Show says on 6/Oct/08
dicksock says on 5/Oct/08
Andre seems to have about 6" or so on HBJ in 1989. That would put him at about 6'11 in 1989, which seems right. Again, he was 7' at his tallest and went down to about 6'10 by his death.(The 90's) The majority of photos and videos support this. I know he was billed as low as 6'10 in the 1960's, but I think its wrong to assume that someone with his condition couldn't have grown a couple more inches. It's just like Robert Wadlow. Doctors say that he would have grown to above 9' if he would have lived longer. Again we are only talking about 2" here, so I don't think its that hard to believe, especially when there are photos and videos to support it.(Buddy Baker, Wilt,..ect)

Wadlow had one of the most extreme cases of gigantism in medical history (maybe even the most extreme if you go by irrefutable evidence), so I don’t think you can compare him to Andre. Look at these pics of a 12-year old Robert Wadlow and boxer Primo Carnera (who was a huge guy himself). It gives a whole new meaning to the phrase: ‘making someone look like a small boy’. Robert Wadlow is supposed to be a small boy!

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Gigantism stops at a certain age and Wadlow was only 22 when he died, so it’s difficult to say for how long his growth might continue.
Andre had a severe case of acromegaly, but his gigantism wasn’t nearly that extreme.

And I wouldn’t say that the majority of photos and videos support the theory that Andre was 7’ at his tallest and went down to 6’10. The matches/pics from Andre with guys like Hogan, Studd, Don Leo Jonathan, Bobo Brazil, Chris Taylor show that Andre did not lose all that much height.

Vegas says on 6/Oct/08
andre, big shows, khali and gonzales hands are bigger than normal sized peoples heads, there is no chance "karelins hands would have dwarf andre the giants hands totaly" no chance, karelin was a big guy but you are talking about dwarfing the hands of guys who are acromelagic giants here

my 6'4 250lb friend had to use BOTH his hands to shake big shows hand, big show hands are gigantic, jim neidhart is no small man Click Here Click Here

Johnny says on 6/Oct/08
In this vid Click Here are some sequences of Ladd and Andre together. No staredown, but Andre is clearly a bit taller.

Halb says on 6/Oct/08
A 6'4 man with hands bigger than a 6'10 giant. I doubt it Ola.;)

Big Show says on 6/Oct/08
Ghost says on 4/Oct/08
Do you think Gonzales had larger hands than Andre? When he compared hands with Regis Philbin they looked enourmos, but then again Regis probably doesn't have very big hands.

It'll be close but I think Gonzales has larger hands than Andre did, seeing he was considerably taller. I think he had longer hands than Andre and in width he may edge Andre out a bit aswell. Andre had huge hands even for a guy his size, Gonzales has large hands, but were maybe only bit above average for someone his size.
When compared to Kevin Sorbo, Gonzales had enormous hands aswell and Sorbo ain't no small man himself.

aram x says on 5/Oct/08
Larger as in longer or broader? some people may have longer yet narrower hands so would that qualify in having larger or smaller hands? imo, having longer hands instantly qualifies you in having larger hands even if they are narrower.

dicksock says on 5/Oct/08
Andre seems to have about 6" or so on HBJ in 1989. That would put him at about 6'11 in 1989, which seems right. Again, he was 7' at his tallest and went down to about 6'10 by his death.(The 90's) The majority of photos and videos support this. I know he was billed as low as 6'10 in the 1960's, but I think its wrong to assume that someone with his condition couldn't have grown a couple more inches. It's just like Robert Wadlow. Doctors say that he would have grown to above 9' if he would have lived longer. Again we are only talking about 2" here, so I don't think its that hard to believe, especially when there are photos and videos to support it.(Buddy Baker, Wilt,..ect)

Ola says on 5/Oct/08
Ghost says on 4/Oct/08
Do you think Gonzales had larger hands than Andre? When he compared hands with Regis Philbin they looked enourmos, but then again Regis probably doesn't have very big hands.

you wanna talk hands lets talk alexander karelin! a seciruty guard at a airport here in sweden wanted to shake his hand and check out if his so called "huge hands" was a myth or not, according to the guard he couldnt shake his hand... (barely)
karelins hands was even bigger than his imagination and even bigger than what ppl has said about him... andre's and big shows hands does only appear big next to small ppl, so wasnt the case of karelin... imo karelins hands would have dwarf andre the giants hands totaly

Ola says on 5/Oct/08
dicksock says on 4/Oct/08
Ola says on 3/Oct/08
dicksock LOL! vince doesnt have any shoes on in that video... so how can you take it seriously?!

Um... I don't know what video you saw, but if its the one I told you to watch then it doesn't even show what footware anybody has on. I just reviewed the whole video after your reply to make sure. I will admit that it is likely because Dibiase has more than 2" on Vince. It's more like 3 or 3.5" so you might be right. Either way normal shoes won't add more than an inch. So if a young barefoot Vince was about 6'1(according to you) and Ted Dibiase with regular wresltling boots is about 6'4, then a barefoot Dibiase would be about 6'3.

it pretty much some kinda video like the one i said! vince is standing ringside with no shoes on in all this kinda videos when he makes this interwievs. else how do you explain backlund being taller than him? (backlund was TOPS 5'11 in his peak - around this time) since he was shorter than shawn michaels and bret hart in early 90's and please dont tell me he had shrunk 2-3 inches!

also they could have standing on a box or something

Ghost says on 4/Oct/08
Do you think Gonzales had larger hands than Andre? When he compared hands with Regis Philbin they looked enourmos, but then again Regis probably doesn't have very big hands.

Big Show says on 4/Oct/08
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Here's a match between Andre and Hillbilly Jim. Probably from 1989 as Haku is in there aswell.

dicksock says on 4/Oct/08
Ola says on 3/Oct/08
dicksock LOL! vince doesnt have any shoes on in that video... so how can you take it seriously?!

Um... I don't know what video you saw, but if its the one I told you to watch then it doesn't even show what footware anybody has on. I just reviewed the whole video after your reply to make sure. I will admit that it is likely because Dibiase has more than 2" on Vince. It's more like 3 or 3.5" so you might be right. Either way normal shoes won't add more than an inch. So if a young barefoot Vince was about 6'1(according to you) and Ted Dibiase with regular wresltling boots is about 6'4, then a barefoot Dibiase would be about 6'3.

JT says on 4/Oct/08
Chris says on 4/Oct/08
....From the photos that I have seen, I would size that Andre and Shows' hands were probably the same width, but Andre's hands were longer.

I agree with that. Dalip Singh (Khali) probably has hands as long as Andre's but not quite as wide as Andre's or Big Show's.

Chris says on 4/Oct/08
Good work on the hand comparisons, JT...To give you an idea of andre's hand size, my hand measures 8 1/4" from wrist to top of middle finger. From the photos that I have seen, I would size that Andre and Shows' hands were probably the same width, but Andre's hands were longer.

Ghost says on 4/Oct/08
Andre's hand were probably larger than Big Show's because his acromegaly developed much further.

JT says on 3/Oct/08
Vegas says on 3/Oct/08
i know this is off topic but i remember someone posting a comparison of andre and big shows so called handprints a while back, and andres was like twice as big and his fingers twice as thick, well show was on tv last night and compared his hand to the presenter, it was stupidly big and his fingers were like twice as thick as the presenter, it would be good to compare that to mene gene and andre when they compared hands Click Here

IIRC, that was Chris. You can see how much wider the handprints are than Andre's actual hands Click Here

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Ola says on 3/Oct/08
dicksock LOL! vince doesnt have any shoes on in that video... so how can you take it seriously?!

KingNick says on 3/Oct/08
willy79 says on 3/Oct/08
Rick says on 1/Oct/08
willy79, I don't consider myself plain stupid to think that Andre was only about 6'10" in 1982 when the Baba pic was taken (which, I'm assuming from your post, you consider his prime). The reason I don't think this is because while you are sitting at your computer comparing questionable pictures and making assumptions based on them, I, on the other hand, stood next to the man for several minutes on two seperate occassions. When you can claim that, then I'll start to take you more seriously.

I live about 25 min. from his ranch and I have met the Real giant. My brother is 6'4 and Andre totally dwarfed him! I have an audograph from him and My bother even thought of him as 7-7'1. I have a pic with him but seeing how I was seven it does no good. I do not make claims I can't back! You should try that yourself, Rick!

post the photo anyway dude we'd all love to see it.

Vegas says on 3/Oct/08
i know this is off topic but i remember someone posting a comparison of andre and big shows so called handprints a while back, and andres was like twice as big and his fingers twice as thick, well show was on tv last night and compared his hand to the presenter, it was stupidly big and his fingers were like twice as thick as the presenter, it would be good to compare that to mene gene and andre when they compared hands Click Here

dicksock says on 3/Oct/08
Ola, type this in to youtube: WWWF MSG Promo April 30, 1979 Backlund Vs Brower

Anymore proof needed?

dicksock says on 3/Oct/08
Ola says on 3/Oct/08
dicksock says on 2/Oct/08
Dibiase was at least 6'3 in his prime. He had McMahon by 2".

proof?

Look up any vid of them together dude. Jesus do you think I'm just making this up? There was a great video a couple months ago on youtube from 1979 with Ted and Vince and Andre all together. Dibiase had Vince by 2", maybe close to 3. I mean is it really that hard to believe?

Anonymous says on 3/Oct/08
vince and dibiase in 1994, dibiase just turned 40 here so he wouldn't have lost any height, looks an inch in difference to me Click Here

Big Show says on 3/Oct/08
JT says on 2/Oct/08
Click Here 2m 10 and 140 kg.?? Andre is still 18 at this point. This billing would be consistent with that other creepy promo pic I posted of Andre. Click Here

The poster is from 1968, so Andre would be 21 here. The match is from Sunday, January the 21st. With the help of below link you can check which year the match would've taken place. January 21, 1965 was on a Thursday.
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I think it probably says 212 cm, which would be consistant with this promopic.
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Chaz says on 3/Oct/08
The Double breasted jacket Kiel has got on in the Andre comparason,allways makes you look wider,that's why doorman wear them,i think this comparason is about right,give or take an inch,it is the only one with like for like ,no **** ring pics,Andre was deff under 7foot and kiel was deff over 7foot(at the time)

Ola says on 3/Oct/08
dicksock says on 2/Oct/08
Dibiase was at least 6'3 in his prime. He had McMahon by 2".

proof?

willy79 says on 3/Oct/08
Rick says on 1/Oct/08
willy79, I don't consider myself plain stupid to think that Andre was only about 6'10" in 1982 when the Baba pic was taken (which, I'm assuming from your post, you consider his prime). The reason I don't think this is because while you are sitting at your computer comparing questionable pictures and making assumptions based on them, I, on the other hand, stood next to the man for several minutes on two seperate occassions. When you can claim that, then I'll start to take you more seriously.

I live about 25 min. from his ranch and I have met the Real giant. My brother is 6'4 and Andre totally dwarfed him! I have an audograph from him and My bother even thought of him as 7-7'1. I have a pic with him but seeing how I was seven it does no good. I do not make claims I can't back! You should try that yourself, Rick!

JT says on 2/Oct/08
Big Show says on 2/Oct/08
....There's a wrestling poster again, but I can't make out at what height they bill Andre at. It looks like 2 m something (it's a 2 digit number, that I can tell).

Click Here 2m 10 and 140 kg.?? Andre is still 18 at this point. This billing would be consistent with that other creepy promo pic I posted of Andre. Click Here

George Lubbon says on 2/Oct/08
when I was 15, and a sophomore, exactly 15 years ago I measured in at 6'6.5" my brother Jeremy was 6'8" when he was 15. We both measured ourselves again on our 18th birthday. I was 7'0" in '96 , he measured in at 7'1" in '98. Today I am around 6'11 1/2"-6'11 3/4" (212-213 cm) at age: 30

Big Show says on 2/Oct/08
JT says on 2/Oct/08
If you think Backlund is 6'1", what is Dibiase? 6'4" or 6'5"? Click Here [BTW the line is at the bottom of Andre's chin, not the top of Backlund's head]

I have no idea how tall Backlund truly is, but he was listed at 6'1 nearly everywhere, not just the WWF. If he's that height, who knows. It could be his height in shoes and than rounded up a little bit. Frankly I haven't got enough material on him to make a good judgment on his height. He can look around the same height as Vince in a couple of videos, although in some he also looks shorter.
Backlund also has a weird kind of posture, so it's difficult to estimate his height in the ring. In the pic with Dibiase he does look 3 inches shorter if Dibiase straigten up, but we don't see any footwear (although they're both probably in ring gear) nor ground level. If you can provide a full body shot where Dibiase still has Backlund by 3 inches, I might change my opinion about Backlund's height.

Johnny says on 2/Oct/08
Dear Danimal, I used centimeters, because it´s easier to say 2,09 m than 6´10.28". Think about that: All others have to use calculators to convert feet and inches into centimeters. But I´ll do it again just for you.

Berzerker 6´5.17"
Bruiser Brody 6´5.2"
Hulk Hogan 6´5.2"
A-Train (Giant Bernard) 6´6"
Akeem 6´6"
Big Daddy V 6´6"
Big John Studd 6´6"
Giant Baba 6´7.1"
Giant Haystacks 6´7.1"
Scott Schwartz 6´7.1"
Sid Vicious 6´7.5"
Jerry Tuite 6´8"
Tyler Mane 6´8"
Undertaker 6´8"
Kane 6´8.3"
Ernie Ladd 6´9"
Jeff Bearden 6´9"
Kurrgan 6´9"
Matt Morgan 6´9"
Kevin Nash 6´9.5"
Nathan Jones 6´9.5"
Andre the Giant 6´10.3" / 6´10.7"
Big Show 7´0"
Khali 7´1"
Giant Silva 7´1.8"
Big Jim Harris 7´3"
Max Palmer not sure: maybe around 7´4.5"
Giant Gonzalez 7´6"

Big Show says on 2/Oct/08
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Here's another old school article on Andre. They said he was 6'3 at age 14. That's tall, but nothing extraordinary. Big Show was I believe that height when he was 12. Nonetheless if Andre was 6'7 at age 17 he grew another 4 inches in 3 years. There's a wrestling poster again, but I can't make out at what height they bill Andre at. It looks like 2 m something (it's a 2 digit number, that I can tell).

What's interesting though is one of the comments. A lady mentions L'Ina France having a match of Andre from 1966 in their archives. Those who have access to it, should be able to see this match. Unfortunately there are no e-mail addresses listed in these comments, otherwise I would e-mail her to ask where I could find that match. That would be a real treat, a Andre match from 1966.
She was probably referring to this site:

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omar g says on 2/Oct/08
i know andre was not 7 feet. he was 6'10 - maybe 6'11 max. and also rick is absolutly right about silo sam. i met him in las vegas and he was very very tall. he had skinney arms and legs and a huge gut.does anybody know how silo sam died and in what year.

dicksock says on 2/Oct/08
Dibiase was at least 6'3 in his prime. He had McMahon by 2".

JT says on 2/Oct/08
Big Show says on 2/Oct/08
....I have question marks with the Andre/Kiel/Bach/Shoemaker pic aswell. Kiel maybe a few inches taller than Andre, but in no way would he be nearly the same size as Andre aswell (which in the pic it looks like he is, although Kiel's suite adds a bit to that effect). Andre would outweigh him by at least 100 lbs.

Like Andre, Kiel is an acromegalic giant with a large bone structure and frame. Kiel said he weighed around 350 lbs. when he did the two Bond films. Andre in 1975 was probably around 400 lbs. Kiel may have also worn a jacket with extra wide shoulders to make him look even larger.

If you think Backlund is 6'1", what is Dibiase? 6'4" or 6'5"? Click Here [BTW the line is at the bottom of Andre's chin, not the top of Backlund's head]

Danimal says on 2/Oct/08
People, can you not see that Rob lists people's heights in FEET and INCHES. Why can we not keep it that way when giving our estimates. Those who post estimates in centimeters don't take into account that mostly only Europeans can do the conversion without the aid of a calculator. Can we not keep it simple and keep it in feet and inches? Thanks.

Big Show says on 2/Oct/08
JT says on 30/Sep/08
Big Show says on 30/Sep/08
Me says on 29/Sep/08
Amazing where is the pic with Andre/Backlund compared to Kiel and Dick Van Dyke??? Yes it is proof. The man was 7'+, enough with these bogus pics.

IIRC, you asked me to assume Backlund was this height when making that comparison. I then posted a pic from this same time period showing DiBiase with a good 3 inches, if not more, on Backlund. In that other comparison pic from a very similar camera angle, Barbara Bach is listed everywhere at 5'7" and Willie Shoemaker at 4'11". Backlund's true height is a question mark.

Yes I did, but it wasn't until you posted the comparison that I realised that the camera angles between these two pics aren't exactly compareble. That makes it harder to pinpoint exactly how much height Kiel would have on Andre.
Comparison pics with different angles for each pic are not 100% useless, but it's nearly impossible to pinpoint someone's height to an inch. They might be useful to see if someone is 7 feet or 6'6.
Dick van Dyke is listed as 6'0.5 and Bob Backlund is listed everywhere as 6'1, so a comparison between these two pics would be logical.

I have question marks with the Andre/Kiel/Bach/Shoemaker pic aswell. Kiel maybe a few inches taller than Andre, but in no way would he be nearly the same size as Andre aswell (which in the pic it looks like he is, although Kiel's suite adds a bit to that effect). Andre would outweigh him by at least 100 lbs.

willy79 says on 1/Oct/08
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Rick says on 1/Oct/08
willy79, I don't consider myself plain stupid to think that Andre was only about 6'10" in 1982 when the Baba pic was taken (which, I'm assuming from your post, you consider his prime). The reason I don't think this is because while you are sitting at your computer comparing questionable pictures and making assumptions based on them, I, on the other hand, stood next to the man for several minutes on two seperate occassions. When you can claim that, then I'll start to take you more seriously.

Chris says on 1/Oct/08
Here is a "new" photo for you guys to look at from my collection:
It's from 1971, Gran Prix Wrestling in Canada...Andre standing in the middle of
Yvon Robert Jr. and Edouard Carpentier
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general93 says on 1/Oct/08
andre the giant was 7'4" 520lbs what a legend the best investment mcmahon ever made he made hgan in 1987 the true giant of pro wrestling all people who lie about 6'9" rot in hell ola ud never step in the ring with me

Anonymous says on 1/Oct/08
silva was always listed in mma at 230cm, watch any of his matches on youtube or dailymotion, some mma 3rd party websites have him down at 218cm but he was never listed at that on pride or k1 tv.

second those andre/baba photos are not comparable, i would assume both men are wearing the same wrestling footwear in 1990 and the shot is straight on, in the shot from 1982 andre has big 2 inch cowboy boots on while baba has low 0.5 inch sneakers and the shot is taken from the left making andre look taller alot like this shot makes clooney look 2 inches taller than pitt, even though pitt is really the taller man Click Here

Halb says on 1/Oct/08
Interesting list Johnny, here's my current one, not chosen all the wrestlers you have listed, but the ones I am more sure off.Berzerker 196 cm
Hulk Hogan 197 cm
Akeem 198 cm
Big Daddy V 198 cm
Big John Studd 198 cm
Giant Baba 200 cm
Giant Haystacks 202 cm
Sid Vicious 201 cm
Undertaker 202 cm
Kane 202 cm
Ernie Ladd 205 cm
Kurrgan 205 cm
Kevin Nash 209 cm
Andre the Giant 211 cm
Big Show 213 cm
Khali 214 cm
Giant Gonzalez 229 cm

Is Giant Silva listed in MMA as 218cm?

willy79 says on 1/Oct/08
Andre looks like he could be over 4 inches taller than a 6'7-8 Baba in the first and only around 2 in the second one. 6'9 3/4 for prime Andre is not just impossible but plain stupid for someone to think that! Also Silva has Khali by an inch and Nash and Kurrgan would be near the same height if not Kurrgan edging Nash out abit!

Clay says on 1/Oct/08
Silva isnt 2 CM's taller than Khali.

Anonymous says on 30/Sep/08
Andre was MAYBE 3 inches taller than ladd but, about an inch plus of that came from the afro. Give andre at least some kind of haircut and Id say 2 inches. Ladd 6'9 Andre 6'11. heck Ladd could have went with a mega afro and been the same height.

Chris says on 30/Sep/08
willy79 says on 29/Sep/08
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Look how Andre dwarfs the 6'5 Killer and 6'6 Bruiser in this!

Just an fyi, Brody Bruiser (Frank Goodish) was 6'4"...that was confirmed a few years ago during a shoot interview with Bruiser's former college roommate, Stan Hansen. The video was produced by RF video for those who want to watch it.

Rocky says on 30/Sep/08
Andre looks 7' in most if not all of these people. Look at him with 7'1 1/16 Wilt or 6'1..5 Arnold or 5'10 Bobby Hull or 6'1 Backlund or 6'6 Buddy Baker etc. these are all people of known heights and looks 7' in all of them not to mention he never stands fully straight like other big wrestlers or Wilt for that mattter. 7' peak for Andre.Click Here

JT says on 30/Sep/08
Big Show says on 30/Sep/08
Me says on 29/Sep/08
Amazing where is the pic with Andre/Backlund compared to Kiel and Dick Van Dyke??? Yes it is proof. The man was 7'+, enough with these bogus pics.

IIRC, you asked me to assume Backlund was this height when making that comparison. I then posted a pic from this same time period showing DiBiase with a good 3 inches, if not more, on Backlund. In that other comparison pic from a very similar camera angle, Barbara Bach is listed everywhere at 5'7" and Willie Shoemaker at 4'11". Backlund's true height is a question mark.

Massimo says on 30/Sep/08
I think Andre's loss of height has been overastimated. This is a 1990 picture showing Andre next to Giant Baba:

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and this is a 1982 picture with the same guys:

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It seems to me that the height difference between the 2 is about the same.
Since Baba was about 2.00 barefoot, I think that Andre has probably always been 6'9" 3/4 in his adult life, at least until 1990. I don't know if he lose height during his last 3 years of his life (1990-1993) though.

After all, when he fought Wepner the boxing journalists judged him about 6'9" and Chuck said Andre was 6'10".
The only picture where Andre looks taller than 6'9" 3/4 is the black and white one with 2.16 Wilton Norman Chamberlain.

I think Andre's loss of height has been overastimated. This is a 1990 picture showing Andre next to Giant Baba:

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and this is a 1982 picture with the same guys:

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It seems to me that the height difference between the 2 is about the same.
Since Baba was about 2.00 barefoot, I think that Andre has probably always been 6'9" 3/4 in his adult life, at least until 1990. I don't know if he lose height during his last 3 years of his life (1990-1993) though.

After all, when he fought Wepner the boxing journalists judged him about 6'9" and Chuck said Andre was 6'10".
The only picture where Andre looks taller than 6'9" 3/4 is the black and white one with 2.16 Wilton Norman Chamberlain.

I think Andre's loss of height has been overastimated. This is a 1990 picture showing Andre next to Giant Baba:

Click Here

and this is a 1982 picture with the same guys:

Click Here

It seems to me that the height difference between the 2 is about the same.
Since Baba was about 2.00 barefoot, I think that Andre has probably always been 6'9" 3/4 in his adult life, at least until 1990. I don't know if he lose height during his last 3 years of his life (1990-1993) though.

After all, when he fought Wepner the boxing journalists judged him about 6'9" and Chuck said Andre was 6'10".
The only picture where Andre looks taller than 6'9" 3/4 is the black and white one with 2.16 Wilton Norman Chamberlain

Chaz says on 30/Sep/08
I think it is clear if you take Andre's Hair out he was no taller than 6'10-11'' Also Johnny I think you need to look at Silva's boots they are like Big Show's he is no way taller than Khali,

Ola says on 30/Sep/08
Andre next to backlund looked barely 6'8

Halb says on 30/Sep/08
We kniow of 1 major back surgery, and he still dwarfed Studd after it at WM5

Johnny says on 30/Sep/08
Let´s try once again. Just for overview. All peak heights.
Berzerker 196 cm
Bruiser Brody 196 cm
Hulk Hogan 196 cm
A-Train (Giant Bernard) 198 cm
Akeem 198 cm
Big Daddy V 198 cm
Big John Studd 198 cm
Giant Baba 201 cm
Giant Haystacks 201 cm
Scott Schwartz 201 cm
Sid Vicious 202 cm
Jerry Tuite 203 cm
Tyler Mane 203 cm
Undertaker 203 cm
Kane 204 cm
Ernie Ladd 206 cm
Jeff Bearden 206 cm
Kurrgan 206 cm
Matt Morgan 206 cm
Kevin Nash 207 cm
Nathan Jones 207 cm
Andre the Giant 209/210 cm
Big Show 213 cm
Khali 216 cm
Giant Silva 218 cm
Big Jim Harris 221 cm
Max Palmer not sure: maybe around 225 cm
Giant Gonzalez 229 cm

Big Show says on 30/Sep/08
Me says on 29/Sep/08
Amazing where is the pic with Andre/Backlund compared to Kiel and Dick Van Dyke??? Yes it is proof. The man was 7'+, enough with these bogus pics.

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Here it is. JT has made tons of comparison pics of Andre with other giant. I'm only buying into comparison pics if the pics were taken with the same camera angle and pretty much from the same camera distance. Other comparisons are useless if you ask me.
If you only call the comparison pics where Andre looks 7 feet proof and dismiss all the others where he doesn't, than you're just being biased.

Me says on 29/Sep/08
Amazing where is the pic with Andre/Backlund compared to Kiel and Dick Van Dyke??? Yes it is proof. The man was 7'+, enough with these bogus pics.

Rick says on 29/Sep/08
willy79 says: "Look how Andre dwarfs the 6'5 Killer and 6'6 Bruiser in this!"

I agree. Looks like he dwarfs Kowalski by about 5" and Brody by about 4! ;-)

JT says on 29/Sep/08
Big Show says on 29/Sep/08
....There has been a comparison made of Andre and Kiel and Andre looked about 7 feet tall there. I believe the comparison was made by JT, who normally gets flamed for his comparison pics. But of course when he makes a comparison where Andre comes out at 7 feet, it's suddenly proof????

Click Here This sure wasn't favorable to Andre, as he looks around 3 inches shorter than Kiel. IMO 6'10" to 6'11" max.

willy79 says on 29/Sep/08
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Look how Andre dwarfs the 6'5 Killer and 6'6 Bruiser in this!

dicksock says on 29/Sep/08
Big Show, it would be assuming he lost 2" not 3. There is only 2" between 6'10 and 7' as I'm sure you know. I don't find it hard to believe he lost about 2" of height. He was an old obese giant with horrible posture and 2 previous major back surgeries. But, 7' for Andre would be as high as I can give him at his peak without further proof.

Big Show says on 29/Sep/08
Halb says on 29/Sep/08
There are pics of Andre next to Kiel and Ladd showing ANdre was 7feet?

No there aren't. There has never been a pic of Andre and Ladd together posted on this website, except a few unclear caps of a wrestling match. Andre is probably taller, but to say he would be 3 inches taller than Ladd is pure guessing. The two matches that are out there on the internet don't really show a good comparison of the two (they don't exactly have a staredown in either of the two matches).

There has been a comparison made of Andre and Kiel and Andre looked about 7 feet tall there. I believe the comparison was made by JT, who normally gets flamed for his comparison pics. But of course when he makes a comparison where Andre comes out at 7 feet, it's suddenly proof????

The pic with Tyler Mane showed Andre to be 6'10 late in his career. I don't see how that proofs he was 7 feet when he was younger. That's assuming he lost 3 inches in height and I've yet to see photograpic evidence of that.
Andre was in bad shape late in his career, but nonetheless he could still assume a good posture if he puts an effort to it. In the match with Tyler Mane they were basically the same height. It wasn't until Andre assumed a decent posture that he clearly was the taller of the two.
Early in his career he definately didn't look 3 inches taller to me than late in his career. He looked around 5-6 inches taller than 6'5 Don Leo Jonathan in the early 70's and the same on 6'5 Chris Taylor in the mid 70's.
Andre had about 4-5 inches on Hogan in 1988. If Andre lost 3 inches in height, why didn't he have 7-8 inches on Hogan in 1980? The difference between them looked pretty much the same back then as it did in the late 80's, give or take 0.5-1 inch.

Halb says on 29/Sep/08
There are pics of Andre next to Kiel and Ladd showing ANdre was 7feet?

Rick says on 28/Sep/08
Me, to further debate Andre being 7' tall or more is the problem. For those using the Wilt picture as proof can forget it. The pic was taken in 1983/84, around the same time I met and stood next to him and he was about 6'10" tops...enormous, massive, a site to behold...but 6'10" nonetheless. As I've said before, I met Silo Sam, a legit 7 footer, shortly after, and Andre, while larger overall, clearly was not as tall as Sam. Hopefully, someone else who has actually met Andre face to face will eventually post here to lend their opinion and insight.

Halb says on 28/Sep/08
There are pics of Andre with Ladd and Keil proving Andre was 7 feet?

dicksock says on 28/Sep/08
There is a new match on youtube of Ladd and Andre one on one. But, I have to admit its pretty disappointing because there are really no good points where you can compare their heights. The guy who posted it thinks there is about 3" between them. That would be my gut reaction as well. Again, I'd put Andre at about 7' tall at his absolute tallest. However, the 6'11.5" as he is listed here could be spot on. The trouble is trying to pin point Andre's height to down to the half inch.

Johnny says on 28/Sep/08
Hillbilly Jim vs Big John Studd. I don´t see much difference. Click Here

Me says on 28/Sep/08
The only other man who had a head close to Andre's size was Studd, who had the same problem as far as an accurate measurement. it looked longer of course when he had that beard.

Me says on 28/Sep/08
To further debate Andre's height being under 7' is not the question the question is where did he land over 7'. The proof as they say is in the pudding. As compared to Wilt,Kiel,Ladd, Tyler Mane (Andre near death), etc... Andre's peak was 7'+, however the plus is what needs to be filled in. The 7' is there. Many argue that those who believe Andre was 7'+ are only using the Wilt pic as proof. That in itself would be enough, however the other pics that I referenced above are more proof of Andre being over 7', again Andre lost plenty when looking down or not with good posture because his jaw line came down a lot further than everyone else. Even compared with Richard Kiel, a huge man, Andre's head was significantly bigger than his, because of that long chin line of Andre's. To me that is what tricks the eye for most of these people who honestly believe Andre did not break 7'. Most of the picks of Andre that exist are Andre with people who were significantly shorter than he was and he must adjust to them, when speaking to them or posing with them for a pic. What needs to be focused on is Andre at his peak standing straight, anything else is useless. Trust me I know there are very few pics of Andre standing like Khali. I wish there were. Then there would be little doubt. I wish there was a staredown out there somewhere with Ernie Ladd or with someone with unquestionable height so that we could all see how tall Andre was, 7'+.

Rocky says on 27/Sep/08
Andre has 3 inches on 6'9 Ernie Ladd in this 1976 video. Meltzer claims Ladd is 6'9.5 and was the same height as Andre well this video proves that claim wrong.Click Here

Anonymous says on 26/Sep/08
earthquake was billed at six foot seven or eight I believe, the same as hogan. Big show was billed at seven two in 98

Big Show says on 26/Sep/08
general93 says on 26/Sep/08
earthqake was billed 6'4" 468lbs and was actally taller.baba was 6'7" maybe in his late 50s probably 6'10" early.big show on arrival to wwf was billed 7ft 500lbs and was 7'1 420lbs so billing isnt always to upgraded for what ever reason.id still go for a 7ft+ andre.the 6'9.75" for a 24 andre can be correct he was taller than ladd nash and ed jones theyre all between 6'9"-11" maybe in the 90s he was in the 7'0 area.

Earthquake was listed as 6'4 by a toy company IIRC. I never recall him ever being listed or referred to as such by the WWF.
Baba was billed as 6'6.75 while he was playing baseball, so he certainly wasn't 6'10 even early in his career.
And if Big Show was billed as 7 feet, he probably wasn't taller. Why would you bill an athlete as the largest athlete in the world and then underbill his height? There was never more than 3 inches between Big Show and Kevin Nash (who's 6'10 tops), and everyone here keeps referring to Big Show's huge boots, so how can he be 7'1? He was listed as such while he was playing basketball, but my guess is, it was a measurement in shoes. 7 foot is probably his real barefoot height.

I fail to understand your last part.
I've yet to see a good comparison pic or vid between Andre and Ladd.
Andre and Nash never appeared together in the ring, so I fail to see why you even mention these two in the same sentence.
And there isn't any good footage of Andre and Ed Jones either. I hope you're not referring to that part of WM II where Andre walks to the ring and passes Ed Jones. The camera is nearly 70 feet away and Andre and Ed Jones are about 5 feet apart of each other. So unless you just had a eye-transplant from Superman himself, I doubt anyone could see who's taller than who.

Ola says on 26/Sep/08
general93, what a lie! NO wrestlers has never ever been taller than their billed height - PERIOD

Danimal says on 26/Sep/08
general93 says on 26/Sep/08
earthqake was billed 6'4" 468lbs and was actally taller.baba was 6'7" maybe in his late 50s probably 6'10" early.big show on arrival to wwf was billed 7ft 500lbs and was 7'1 420lbs so billing isnt always to upgraded for what ever reason.id still go for a 7ft+ andre.the 6'9.75" for a 24 andre can be correct he was taller than ladd nash and ed jones theyre all between 6'9"-11" maybe in the 90s he was in the 7'0 area.

You are wrong about Big Show being billed at 7'0" when he entered the WWF in 1999. He was billed at 7'2" and 500 pounds and was lowered a little while later. Why? I have NO idea.

general93 says on 26/Sep/08
earthqake was billed 6'4" 468lbs and was actally taller.baba was 6'7" maybe in his late 50s probably 6'10" early.big show on arrival to wwf was billed 7ft 500lbs and was 7'1 420lbs so billing isnt always to upgraded for what ever reason.id still go for a 7ft+ andre.the 6'9.75" for a 24 andre can be correct he was taller than ladd nash and ed jones theyre all between 6'9"-11" maybe in the 90s he was in the 7'0 area.

Red says on 26/Sep/08
Ola, Andre´s shoes boots him 1.5 inches? That´s insane! The boots give him 0.5-1 inch and than take a look at Andres posture with Vince. Andres neck position is horrible - he could easy stretch an inch out and the result is a 6´11" in the evening.

Viper says on 26/Sep/08
Rock only looked 6-0 in that episode.

sky says on 25/Sep/08
I'm sorry but the whole bunch who are trying to make Andre 6'9 3/4 are just getting desperate! Ladd was a legit 6'9 and Andre was between 2 and three inches taller!

Big Show says on 25/Sep/08
dicksock says on 25/Sep/08
You can't debate Ernie Ladd's height. He was 6'9 for a fact. I know some have trouble understanding that pro football doesn't use kayfabe. They don't bill guys. I don't care how tall anyone thinks he looked next to Vince McMahon or anybody else. He was 6'9. Debating his height is foolish.

He was listed as such in football in the early 60's, when he was in his prime. I have no doubt he was that height back then. But was he still that height in the late 70's (when he wrestled Andre), that's the question! In the pics with Vince McMahon his posture sucks. You can hardly say he stands up straight in those pics with Vince. And 6'9 is his height, when he assumes a military posture, not when he's slouching (which he did in most pics I've seen of him from the late 70's til early 80's).

Captain Spaulding says on 25/Sep/08
Johnny says on 25/Sep/08
"Tyler Mane according to himself and his website stands 6´8". Andre didn´t have 3 inches on him in 1990, more like 1,5."

Tyler mane is 6'8.5", maybe 6'9", at least 6'8". Its amazing that hed still have more then an inch over a 6'8"+ guy in 1990, since he had lost alot of height by that point. Johnny andre wasnt any where near his peak height in his match with hogan in 1987 if thats the time period your refering to, he was 6'10" max in 1987, but im talking about in the 70s when he was at his peak height, not 1990.

Danimal says on 25/Sep/08
Halb says on 23/Sep/08
Pat Roach in his own words was 6'4½.
I reckon Hart was not over 5'11.

I met him. He wasn't.

dicksock says on 25/Sep/08
You can't debate Ernie Ladd's height. He was 6'9 for a fact. I know some have trouble understanding that pro football doesn't use kayfabe. They don't bill guys. I don't care how tall anyone thinks he looked next to Vince McMahon or anybody else. He was 6'9. Debating his height is foolish.

Big Show says on 25/Sep/08
Ola says on 25/Sep/08
willy79 says on 24/Sep/08
ernie ladd wasnt even 6'5 next to vince mcmahon...

Ernie looked a little taller than that next to Vince, but not much. 5 inches at most, which would put him at 6'6.5. Ladd's posture was terrible though.

Ladd still looked around 6'7 next to The Rock in an episode of That 70's show and Ladd was 60 years old there.

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Ola says on 25/Sep/08
willy79 says on 24/Sep/08
What is your proof, Dave Meltzer, LOL!!!!!!! Here is mine for a 7'0 Andre over 3inches on a legit 6'9 Ernie Ladd, aged Andre the almost 3 inches on a 6'8 to 6'9 Tyler Mane. Andre the same Height as a 7'1 Wilt! Hows that for proof.

ernie ladd wasnt even 6'5 next to vince mcmahon...

Frank says on 25/Sep/08
Johnny i agree with you that i dont believe Andre was 7ft tall Barefoot
but in the Tyler Mane photo Andre was Hunched and still looked about 2 inches on Mane....Everyone who believes Andre was 7ft and over go by the Wilt Photo
and yes Andre does look 6ft 11 to 7ft but i did see a diffrent photo of Wilt & Andre with Arnold that Wilt looked a good amount taller than Andre ...If Wilt is a Legit 7ft 1 Andre looked 6ft 10ish to 6ft 11 In that picture i do remember Wilt and Andre were in street clothes but i dont remember if Andre was wearing cowboy boots ??

Johnny says on 25/Sep/08
First of all, again you are referring to one single picture to prove a 7 feet Andre, while there are a lot more pictures to disprove it. Show me where Andre has 3 inches on Ladd. I haven´t seen a good picture of them together. And no, I am not referring to Dave Meltzer. Tyler Mane according to himself and his website stands 6´8". Andre didn´t have 3 inches on him in 1990, more like 1,5.

Captain Spaulding says on 24/Sep/08
Johnny when my uncle was 20 years old he was 5'8", and now hes 44 and is 5'6", due to getting older and lots of heavy lifting.

And the taller you are the more height you lose as you get older, and andre was very very tall. Surgeries alone made him at least 2 inches shorter and then you gotta factor in his tremendous weight, getting old, and bad posture.

willy79 says on 24/Sep/08
Johnny says on 24/Sep/08
Captain Spaulding says on 23/Sep/08

Andres peak height was a minumum of 7 feet, but in the early 90s it was 6'9" max so he lost 3 or 4 inches during his lifetime. He had surgeries on his hips and back, had bad posture and weighed 540 lbs (at least 500 lbs) before he died and all that weight crushed his spine. And hogan himself has lost 2 or 3 inches aswell, but hogan didnt even weigh 500 pounds.

There is no photo that can back up your claim. Like I said Andre and Hogan may have lost 1,5 inch, but no more. I´ll give Andre 6´10.5" peak and 6´9" later, Hogan 6´5" peak 6´3.5" today.

What is your proof, Dave Meltzer, LOL!!!!!!! Here is mine for a 7'0 Andre over 3inches on a legit 6'9 Ernie Ladd, aged Andre the almost 3 inches on a 6'8 to 6'9 Tyler Mane. Andre the same Height as a 7'1 Wilt! Hows that for proof.

Ola says on 24/Sep/08
Red vince MAYBE was 6'1 yes, but then you need to delete a inch and a half from andre couse vince doesnt have any shoes in that pic. what happens? = a 6'10 andre. which is around that meltzer said

Johnny says on 24/Sep/08
Captain Spaulding says on 23/Sep/08

Andres peak height was a minumum of 7 feet, but in the early 90s it was 6'9" max so he lost 3 or 4 inches during his lifetime. He had surgeries on his hips and back, had bad posture and weighed 540 lbs (at least 500 lbs) before he died and all that weight crushed his spine. And hogan himself has lost 2 or 3 inches aswell, but hogan didnt even weigh 500 pounds.

There is no photo that can back up your claim. Like I said Andre and Hogan may have lost 1,5 inch, but no more. I´ll give Andre 6´10.5" peak and 6´9" later, Hogan 6´5" peak 6´3.5" today.

Big Show says on 23/Sep/08
Alex2 says on 23/Sep/08
Big Show, Im not saying he WASNT 6'10" I think it could be very likely actually, its just billings can be all over the place at times lol.

True, but I think 9 out of 10 promoters would exaggerate Andre's height. Dale Martin Promotions might be one of the few to have actually billed a giant at his true height.

Chaz says on 23/Sep/08
dicksock,as I have said so meny times on here I saw Haystacks with Pat Roach in 1987,and he Looked about 3-4''taller than Roach so you are right i think Haystacks was 6'7.5''-6'8'5''peak but he was 100% weighed on Uk tv at 46st 8 lbs,thats 652lbs and thats what he was in the GBW for not he's height.but they do say he was 6'11''.

Captain Spaulding says on 23/Sep/08
Johnny says on 22/Sep/08
"I do not buy a 4 inch height loss for Andre."

Andres peak height was a minumum of 7 feet, but in the early 90s it was 6'9" max so he lost 3 or 4 inches during his lifetime. He had surgeries on his hips and back, had bad posture and weighed 540 lbs (at least 500 lbs) before he died and all that weight crushed his spine. And hogan himself has lost 2 or 3 inches aswell, but hogan didnt even weigh 500 pounds.

Red says on 23/Sep/08
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If Vince was 6´1" peak than Andre was a strong 6´11".
I think Vince was 6´1.5" peak and Andre 7´0"

Rocky says on 23/Sep/08
I was watching an Andre vs 6'9.5 Ernie Lad from 1976. Andre has 3 inches on Ladd and Ladd would have a small footware advantage over Andre's thin souled boots.

Alex2 says on 23/Sep/08
Big Show, Im not saying he WASNT 6'10" I think it could be very likely actually, its just billings can be all over the place at times lol.

Halb says on 23/Sep/08
Pat Roach in his own words was 6'4½.
I reckon Hart was not over 5'11.

willy79 says on 22/Sep/08
Andre was at very least 7'0 if not 7'1 so he needs to vbe upgraded on this site!

Rick says on 22/Sep/08
Just to add to Big Show's post regarding Andre being billed at 6'10" on the UK poster...you need to remember that this was before Vince McMahon Sr. got his hands on him and christened him Andre the Giant, then had him standing on crates for interviews so he would look his billed height of 7'4". Back in 1969, a man standing 6'10" was most likely considered a giant by just about everyone, and a wrestling promoter without McMahon's savy had no reason to take it any further, particularly since Andre at that time wasn't the world wide sensation he would later grow to be.

Big Show says on 22/Sep/08
If Shawn Michaels is 6'1, than I guess he forgot to put on his lifts here.
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McMahon has about a 0.5" footwear advantage (he's in dressing shoes, while Michaels is in slippers). Still McMahon has him by about 2.5 inch. So even if McMahon is a full 6'2, that would put Michaels at 6' tops.

McMahon is shorter than his son Shane (who's also listed at 6'2) and Donald Trump (who's also listed at 6'2).

dicksock says on 22/Sep/08
Ola, I don't know where you get 5'11 for Bret Hart because he was as tall as Shawn Michaels and Roddy Piper. Both Piper and Michaels were about 6'1 or maybe a little more in their prime. As for Flair I've been like 2 feet away from him at an episode of Raw I went to in 2004 and he was definatly at least 6' tall at just about 60 years old. So I'd give Flair 6'1 peak just like Hart,Michaels,Piper,Austin. And McMahon has about an inch or so on all of them. Plus every reference to Vince's height I've ever seen lists him at 6'2. As for Monsoons height, there is no denying Ali was AT LEAST 6'2.5 and Monsoon had a couple inches on him. To argue against a prime Ali at least a full 6'2 is to be in complete denial.

On a side note, as far as Haystacks height is concerned I'd give him 6'8 the absolute tallest in his prime. I just went back and watched the match from 1982 with Pat Roach. He appeared to have no more than 2.5 to 3" on the MAX 6'5 Pat Roach. I also watched another one of their matches from 1991 and Haystacks only appeared 2" at the most taller than Roach. So I'd give Haystacks peak 6'7.5-6'8 and in WCW about 6'6.5-6'7. I've heard so many people claim Haystacks was measured at 6'11 by guiness including a guy that claims to be Haystack's son. But for me, there is no evidence that would suggest a 6'11 Haystacks. What does everyone here think his height was again?

Ola says on 22/Sep/08
Johnny bad photos? find any better then! Alex2, dibiase isnt hunched any more than what flair does... i guess its so easy to come up with an excuse! all the time these escuses... dibiase was nothing more than 2 1/2 inches taller than bret hart and ric flair, in fact is was closer to 2. but please bring up some photo where dibiase is 5-6 inches taller than flair and hitman, like both you and danimal believes

Shaq says on 22/Sep/08
JT, Chandler has said he's grown a little since.

Q: I have to be honest. When you're wearing the Hornets' yellow uniforms, you look taller to me. Have you grown since last season?

A: I've been growing since I've been in the league. You're not the first person to tell me that. But I'm not even going to measure myself. I don't even want to know. I'm [listed at] 7-1. I'm going to leave it there.

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Chandler can certainly appear above 6'11.5" at times like next to 6'10.5" Eddy Curry.

As far as Andre, one thing that makes the 6-9.75 measurement seem like it could be legit is that it fits the 6-10 billing. It's also possible though that Andre could have been more like 6-10.5 like Big Show said.

Chaz says on 22/Sep/08
yes Big Show is right,that Big Bruno was Bruno Elrington,and there are some ring pics of him with Andre and Andre has 6'' at most over 6'5''ish Elrington,and Elrington was sometimes billed has 6'6''but more likely only 6'4.5''peak,and about 285lbs.I think that Andre was 6'10.5''and down to 6'9''at death.

Big Show says on 22/Sep/08
Alex2 says on 21/Sep/08
As for Andre, people CAN get underbilled you know!! Gees

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There's no way a wrestling promoter would bill a giant several inches below his actual height. You do know what wrestling promoters are? Those are the ones who set up matches and everything around it. Being a great promoter is knowing how to advertise a match and getting people interested into seeing a wrestling match. Back then there was no internet, and most people didn't have a television in their homes yet, so the only advertising that was done for wrestling matches were probably the wrestling posters. They had to catch the people's interest.
For a wrestling promoter it's in their own financial interest to make sure that a match catches the people's interest. Dale Martin Promotions was no cheap promotion, they were one of the top wrestling promoters in the UK at the time, so I sincerely doubt they would be dumb enough to bill a match as a "Clash of the Giants" and than underbill one of the 2 giants a couple of inches below his actual height. If Andre was 7 feet he would've been billed as 7 feet and not as 6'10. And if the promoter didn't know Andre's height, than I'm sure Andre's manager did. And it's also in his interest that Andre gets promoted in the right way. Maybe Andre was 6'10.5 or 6'11 (which explains why most wrestling magazines refer to him as 6'11). A 2nd wrestling poster from Andre's UK days would confirm that.
The wrestlers who get underbilled are mostly the smaller wrestlers, to make their accomplishments in the ring sound more intimidating (everyone loves the David vs. Goliath theme). I've never heard of any giant wrestler being billed below his actual height (and no I don't think Big Show was 7'1 and downgraded to 7 feet by the WWE either).

Halb says on 22/Sep/08
I meant, 'they don't'

Halb says on 22/Sep/08
I think giants get underbilled. Quite the opposite from what we have seen.

Big Show says on 22/Sep/08
Ola says on 21/Sep/08
dibiase has 2 - 2 1/2 inches on flair in early 90's Click Here
dibiase shorter than sting today Click Here Click Here
and andre was once billed to 6'10 how in the heck could he have been 7ft then?

Actually in the 2nd pic of Sting and DiBiasi, they're the same height and DiBiasi isn't even standing straight, while Sting is.
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In the first pic, Sting is in wrestling gear (and he often wore some funny boots in the ring).

Johnny says on 22/Sep/08
I do not buy a 4 inch height loss for Andre. More like 1,5, but no more. The pictures have so many different influences. It´s nearly impossible to compare two pictures. But one thing I must ask: Ola, what are you trying ? Sometimes you make reasonable statements and then you come up with three bad photos. In two of them DiBiase is leaning forward, in the one with flair we can´t even see his hips. This way, you´re destroying any credibility left in you.

Captain Spaulding says on 21/Sep/08
Andres peak height was 7'1" but after surgeries and due to his tremendous weight weighing him down he was 6'9" max before he died.

R. I. P.

JT says on 21/Sep/08
Anonymous says on 20/Sep/08
Monsoon (age 38)and vince in 1976 Click Here

Monsoon and vince in 1996, austin with completely flat boots is there too, i don't see a 2 inch height loss myself Click Here

Click Here He probably has a ~ 0.5" footwear advantage in his dress shoes from 1997.

Vince can look anywhere from 6'0" to 6'2" at any given time.

Anonymous says on 21/Sep/08
I certainly hope Monsoon towered over Austin, Austin was only about 6'0, he was only an inch or so taller than Mike Tyson! Austin was only BILLED AT 6'2, which you know was his cowboy boot height. You might as well insert Tyson for Austin in that picture. Monsoon would have to be about 3 inches taller than Austin (which he was, but no more than that) just in order to be about 6'3.

Alex2 says on 21/Sep/08
Ola, are you blind man? DiBiase is all hunched over there and has MINIMUM 3" on Flair there! As for Andre, people CAN get underbilled you know!! Gees.

Ola says on 21/Sep/08
Mamum, thats not fair done either... nash is no way near that much taller than taker, so i guess its impossible to get a good result by putting pics next to each other in this way

general93 says on 21/Sep/08
mamun fair play this proves wat i said all along andre around 7ft 7'1" late 80s stud taller than taker by about a inch so therefore stud 6'9" taker 6'8.5" nash 6'10.5" still not 100% about peak andre but if people continue to put him at 6'10"peak and 6'8"late then ill go for 7'4"

Mamun says on 21/Sep/08
Thanks JT for your kind contribution ! I would like to know how many of the
good posters here see your point and how many don't ? Plus do you take into
consideration Tyson Chandlar's posture and those monster Nike's he is wearing?
Please remember none of us are arguing if Andre was 7 feet near his death as
in the picture that we had used in our comparison . By the time Andre had
taken that picture with TED and Virgil we are talking about Andre after back
surgery and also unable to stand to his full height and in extreme pain . He
will only live three more years following that picture ! so comparing him with
an energized 21 year old Tyson Chandlar I think in my book isn't what being
fair about .

Me says on 21/Sep/08
Thank you Mamun & Red.

Ola says on 21/Sep/08
dicksock says on 20/Sep/08
Ola even by your own logic Dibiase was 6'3. How do explain the fact that he had Vince by 2"? Are you really saying the McMahon was under 6'1 in his prime? The fact is Dibiase was on a recent episode of Raw and he still had Vince by 2". I don't see how any reasonable person could give Ted anything under 6'3 in his prime. In my opinion he was probably closer to 6'4. Even so I wouldn't give Andre anywhere above 6'11.5" for the mid 80's on. I would say based on everything I've seen that Andre peaked at 7' maybe 7'.25" and at the time of his death was around 6'10.5".

having the short vince by 2 inches doesnt prove much - in fact - NOTHING at all. but still i actually doubt he had, since you cant prove it with any pics. dibiase was the same height as warrior in his peak(6'1 1/2) and is shorter than sting today, and sting was shorter than the warrior so do the math. also dibiase was only around 2 inches taller than short 5'11 guys like ric flair and bret hart.

dibiase has 2 - 2 1/2 inches on flair in early 90's Click Here
dibiase shorter than sting today Click Here Click Here
and andre was once billed to 6'10 how in the heck could he have been 7ft then?

Mamun says on 21/Sep/08
ME, here is a better and more fair comparison picture of Andre and Kevin done wonderfully by my
friend and master of comparisons RED ! You can see more than two inches even though Andre was
no where near his peek !

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Ghost says on 21/Sep/08
And for Vince, I'd say 6'1,5 prime, 6'05 today (same height as Cena).

Ghost says on 21/Sep/08
Dicksock,

Let's not go overboard and say Austin was 6'2...

One man gang looked 6'6.

KingNick says on 21/Sep/08
I'm sure I've asked this before but how tall you guys think One Man Gang/Akeem is? Here he is with Slick at the 2:50 mark, Slick always seemed very tall to me, towers over Mean Gene and usually towered over the wrestlers he managed, but not Akeem

dicksock says on 20/Sep/08
Go to youtube and watch "Stone Cold gets in Gorilla Monsoon's Face". It will prove with out a shadow of a doubt that Monsoon was AT LEAST 6'4 in his prime. The video shows a 60+ year old Monsoon in dress shoes having a minimum 2" on a relatively young Vince McMahon who everyone agrees (other that perhaps ola) is about 6'2. He also does have a couple inches on Austin in the video. And I have the video that Daminal was talking with Monsoon and Austin backstage and he's right. Monsoon has a 6'1-6'2 Austin by over 2". There is no doubt in my mind that Monsoon had to be close to 6'5 at his tallest or maybe taller. Also in the bio of Andre the Giant he refers to himself as being 6'6. He could have easily lost a full inch by age 62, especially with how sick he was towards the end.

Big Show says on 20/Sep/08
Monsoon only had Austin by 3 inches in this backstage segment from RAW July 4, 1997. Austin is in his wrestling gear there, while Monsoon is probably in dressing shoes. Monsoon is 60 years old there, so 6'3 sounds about right during that time.
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In the backstage segment with Studd & Bundy, Monsoon was more in the background, creating the illussion he was shorter than Bundy. If they would stand side by side they would probably be the same height.

dicksock says on 20/Sep/08
Ola says on 20/Sep/08
haha red, that was ridiculous done! but i guess the only way for andre to be 6'11 virgil has to be 6'1 and dibiase 6'3... LOL. we can delete 2 inches of them all

Ola even by your own logic Dibiase was 6'3. How do explain the fact that he had Vince by 2"? Are you really saying the McMahon was under 6'1 in his prime? The fact is Dibiase was on a recent episode of Raw and he still had Vince by 2". I don't see how any reasonable person could give Ted anything under 6'3 in his prime. In my opinion he was probably closer to 6'4. Even so I wouldn't give Andre anywhere above 6'11.5" for the mid 80's on. I would say based on everything I've seen that Andre peaked at 7' maybe 7'.25" and at the time of his death was around 6'10.5".

JT says on 20/Sep/08
Big Show says on 19/Sep/08
....In the 2nd interview he dwarfs Ventura. Andre is a little bit closer to the camera though there. Ventura is not wearing any cowboyboots there.

Andre may have cowboy boots on and Ventura has a wide stance to make Andre look taller. In the other video, Andre probably has his Tiger tennis shoes on that he wore quite a bit back then. Ventura likely had cowboy boots on given the boa.

Anonymous says on 20/Sep/08
Monsoon (age 38)and vince in 1976 Click Here

Monsoon and vince in 1996, austin with completely flat boots is there too, i don't see a 2 inch height loss myself Click Here

JT says on 20/Sep/08
Mamun, Red usually does a good job with his photo comparisons but this one has a few flaws. Click Here First, the camera angles are not the same. Second, the “constant” in both pics (Virgil) is not scaled properly. Leaving aside the height discrepancy (though he is not standing that erect with Mamun), his head is larger in the pic with Andre and, further, he’s leaning his head back slightly in that pic, meaning that his head should have actually been made a little smaller when scaling the photo with your pic. Third, DiBiase is not standing side by side with Andre; he’s behind him, which is clear from the photo. Fourth, DiBiase is not standing straight. Fifth, and most damning for Andre, Virgil looks to be standing at about the same camera depth as Andre. The top of Virgil’s head is ABOVE Andre’s chin and Andre even has his head titled back slightly. Even if Virgil is an inch above Rob’s 5’11” estimate, Andre honestly does not look much over 6’9” with him. If a 6’0” Virgil has a 10 inch long head even when it’s tilted back (which would be huge), Andre is no more than 10 inches taller than him even accounting for the camera angle.

Here’s what a real 7 footer (Tyson Chandler; actually 6’11.5” barefoot) and a ~ 6’8”-6’9” guy (Peja Stojakovic) look like with a 6 footer (Chris Paul). Click Here Scale Chris Paul to Virgil and assume they have comparable head sizes, which is not unreasonable, and you end up with this. Click Here

Here’s another great pic that Chris posted of DiBiase with Andre from that same event. Click Here Andre again looks in the 6’9” to 6’10” max range as of 1988.

In Chris’s comparison pic (Click Here) with Andre and you, Andre came out not much more than a head size taller than you, even though you somehow thought this proved your point that Andre is a 7 footer. In Chris’s other comparison pic (Click Here) with Andre and DiBiase, you remarked that Andre came out looking almost a foot taller (!) than Chris (IIRC around 6’1”). Since the difference is nowhere near that amount (more like 8-9 inches max), I think we just found out why you’ve been over-estimating Andre’s height all this time.

I’m sure Andre did lose a little height over time, but IMO most of the perceived height loss was due to poor posture. He could still stand straight as of the late 1980s, as evident in his stare down with Duggan and Studd. Before anyone brings up Andre’s match with Mane, please post a full body shot of both Andre and Mane standing straight and side by side (not Mane with his head titled back and with a wide stance).

Frank says on 20/Sep/08
Chuck Wepner looked about 2 inches taller than Monsoon so he could have been 6ft 3

Anonymous says on 20/Sep/08
Ola, I don´t take you serious anymore, you´re just a fool who wants to disturb the discussions on this site with rediculous estimations.
If you read the post you´ll see that the height is in shoes!!!

Ghost says on 20/Sep/08
Danimal says on 19/Sep/08
For crying out loud, Gorilla Monsoon was not only 6'3" Ghost. It's like you have a mental block. Monsoon FOUGHT MUHAMMED ALI in the 1970's, who was 6'2.5"-6'3" and Monsoon had at least 2" on him. Monsoon also TOWERED Steve Austin in the late 1990's. In fact, it was comical how Stone Cold who many believe was 6'1" had to constantly stand on his tip toes backstage to be almost at the same eye level as Monsoon, when Monsoon was kicking Steve out of the building. Stone Cold was in his infamous boots and Monsoon as the commisioner was in a pair of dress shoes.

ALSO GHOST, watch the 1997 Slammy awards where Sid had MAX 2-3" on Monsoon when they were standing side by side in tuxedos. Monsoon in his prime was 6'5" MINIMUM and 6'4" in later life, putting Jesse at 6'4", or just under, seeing Hogan had him by 2", like he did 6'4" Bossman.

Monsoon was probably 6'4-6'5 in his prime, I'll give him that. But in his later years he was shorter than King Kong Bundy and looked pretty much exactly the same height as Vader, who looked pretty much exactly the same height as Mark Henry when they had a staredown. Also, he never seemed to have 5'10 Heenan by more than 5 inches. I haven't seen him with Sid or Austin, do you have any links? I'm sure there is contradicting evidence regarding his height like there is with everybody but from what I've seen I'd still say he was 6'4-6'5 in his prime and 6'3 in later years.

Ola says on 20/Sep/08
haha red, that was ridiculous done! but i guess the only way for andre to be 6'11 virgil has to be 6'1 and dibiase 6'3... LOL. we can delete 2 inches of them all

Ola says on 20/Sep/08
Danimal plz! for crying out load! monsoon had tops 2 on a barefooted ali! and bossman had 1 on sting, sting was once billed at 6'2 but was closer to 6'1 so do the math... - he was a tad shorter than the 6'1 1/2 warrior. what you are doing is that your using your own fantasy heights just to make hogan look 6'6.

the horrible truth is: hogan around was around 6'4, bossman was around 6'2 1/2, and monsoon was 6'3 1/2 TOPS

Rick says on 20/Sep/08
Harley, Met Studd in the 80's in street clothes. Watched my brother, who's 6'4", standing directly next to him. Studd had about 2" on him. My brother came to about the middle of his forehead.

Danimal, Met Monsoon in the 70's. Real nice guy. He appeared just as tall as my brother, who was about 6'3" and still growing at that time, so 6'4" peak for Monsoon sounds right.

Harley says on 19/Sep/08
Big john studd was on a tv show Hunter who I think was 6-6.Studd has him by 2.5 to 3 inches.I know he was standing on a box.Peak height for andre was 5-7 studd 5-4 and hogan 5-1.This site is a joke.

Atoadaso says on 19/Sep/08
nicely done Red.

Mamun says on 19/Sep/08
Thank you soooo much RED for coming to my aid and listening to my cries for
Help ! You are the true superman RED cause you allways come to the rescue!
Yes you are right ! That picture is in the 90's only a year or two before
Andre's death . That's when he joined the Billion Dollar co-operation with
Ted . So we are talking about an Andre near his death and nowhere near his
peek . Even here you could argue that he was 7 feet if he stood with the
same kind of posture like BIG SHOW when he was in WCW . So that brings us
to the conclusion that those kind people who want to believe Andre was never
close to 7 feet in his prime also believe in Santa Cluse coming through the
fire place on Christmass eve . My friend JT ! what is your response ?

Kind regards

Mamun

Me says on 19/Sep/08
JT your pics are getting worse and worse. Can we stick to peak height and draw a line when the man is standing straight. Will ya??? These pics again display nothing.

Danimal says on 19/Sep/08
For crying out loud, Gorilla Monsoon was not only 6'3" Ghost. It's like you have a mental block. Monsoon FOUGHT MUHAMMED ALI in the 1970's, who was 6'2.5"-6'3" and Monsoon had at least 2" on him. Monsoon also TOWERED Steve Austin in the late 1990's. In fact, it was comical how Stone Cold who many believe was 6'1" had to constantly stand on his tip toes backstage to be almost at the same eye level as Monsoon, when Monsoon was kicking Steve out of the building. Stone Cold was in his infamous boots and Monsoon as the commisioner was in a pair of dress shoes.

ALSO GHOST, watch the 1997 Slammy awards where Sid had MAX 2-3" on Monsoon when they were standing side by side in tuxedos. Monsoon in his prime was 6'5" MINIMUM and 6'4" in later life, putting Jesse at 6'4", or just under, seeing Hogan had him by 2", like he did 6'4" Bossman.

Big Show says on 19/Sep/08
JT says on 18/Sep/08
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This looks like around 1985-1986. IMO, Ventura was around 6’3” back then and probably had cowboy boots on, making him around 6’5”. Andre has shorts on and is probably wearing tennis shoes.
I have that video on tape and put it online. There are 2 interviews. The one you mentioned and another one.
The thing I noticed about the first interview was that Andre looked kinda short next to Ventura. In the 2nd interview he dwarfs Ventura. Andre is a little bit closer to the camera though there. Ventura is not wearing any cowboyboots there.

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Red says on 19/Sep/08
Mamun, its very hard to compare the two pics because of the different cam angles. Click Here
First of all I think Virgil has a footwear advantage and is standing very straight beside DiBiase, with Mamun Virgil is slouching slightly.
If you take the left pic and put DiBiase at 6´3" in shoes wich is spot on for that period, than Andre is 7´0" in that pic.
I think Andre is standing relaxed an could stretch out at least an inch to become 7´0"-7´0.5" in shoes. Than take into consideration that this is not a young peak Andre. I think peak Andre was 7´0" and between 1980 and 1990 at least 6´11"flat. He was a strong 6´10" after 1990.

Ghost says on 19/Sep/08
Ventura was probably about only around 6'2 since even in his boots he was the same height as 6'3 Gorilla Monsoon who was shorter than King Kong Bundy, but was about 6'4 in his prime.

I also remember an interview where 6'5-6'6 Zeus almost towered Ventura.

Ventura was prbably about 6'3-4 in his boots and Andre about 6'11 in his shoes making the difference between the two about 7 inches which looks accurate.

JT says on 18/Sep/08
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This looks like around 1985-1986. IMO, Ventura was around 6’3” back then and probably had cowboy boots on, making him around 6’5”. Andre has shorts on and is probably wearing tennis shoes.

JT says on 18/Sep/08
Mr. E says on 17/Sep/08
....Anyone have any photos of Nash and Andre to compare?

Not too many decent pics of Andre and Nash standing next to the same guy.
Click Here That’s Andre in 1980 (age 34) and Nash in 1994 (age 35) Vince may be in white socks with Andre - the video is not very clear. Nash is clearly leaning in more than Andre though.

Frank says on 18/Sep/08
Mr.E, Nash was slightly tall than Tyler Mane we they were tag team partners a long time ago and we seen a Picture on a Broken Down Andre looking 2 inches taller than Tyler Mane so i do believe than Andre was taller than Nash and i believe Andre and Show were very close in height Show wore Lifts and Andre had very thin soled wrestling boots

Anonymous says on 18/Sep/08
Big daddy was 6'2.5'not 6'1''

Rocky says on 18/Sep/08
Andre peaked at 6'11.5 to 7'. He was 6'10 later in life. There is an overwhelming amount of pics to support this.
Click Here

Mr. E says on 17/Sep/08
I don't think Kevin Nash has been a lift wearer, orthotics yes, lifts no. I think he's the closest "legit" tall guy as far as us being able to peg him at minimum 6-9, but probably closer to 6-10. That being said, does anyone have any comparison pics like the ones that Chris posted between Nash and Andre? While I think that Show is taller than Andre, I think Andre was closer to the 7 foot mark rather than the ridiculous sub 6-10 mark that some are willing to suggest. And if that's the case, a minimum 6-9 Nash would be nearly spot on with Andre. I think we'd find that a prime Nash would still be 2 inches shorter than a hobbled 6-11-7 foot Andre. Anyone have any photos of Nash and Andre to compare?

Mamun says on 17/Sep/08
Thank you Chris for your kind contribution ! chris how tall are you barefoot?
Because I see all most a foot difference with you and andre ! Chris could be
so kind and add a giant ruler to the masterpiece you have done with my photo
and put me at 5' 9" ( with shoes height ) ! Now the truth that was always
out there is going to take shape !

regards

Mamun

Mr. X says on 17/Sep/08
do people who brag about or claim their height in here have to be at least 6'6"? We get a lot of people that claim they're close to, at, or even over 7 feet.

Johnny says on 17/Sep/08
@Ghost Actually Mane is taller than Schwartz. Look at Schwartz´s site, there´s a picture of them standing together.

willy79 says on 17/Sep/08
Ghost says on 17/Sep/08
Danimal,

To be fair, there is no proof of Tyler Mane actually being 6'8-6'9. He looks slightly shorter than Scott Schwartz who looks 6'7 next to Mamun when compared with Mamun's picture of kane and himself.

I see Andre as being close to 7 feet in his youth and 6'9-6'10 near the end of his life.

Haystacks I can't see as much over 6'7 in his prime looking at his staredowns with Big Daddy (around 6'1) and Akira Maeda. 6'8 is the absolute highest number I could give him.

Sorry buut Tyler Manes peak was only 6'7 than Kevin Nash peak was 6'8.5 because that was the height between them and sometimes Mane looked taller than Nash. There is no way to say Haystacks was under 6'8 peak, probably 6'9 like Uncle Elmer. Andre 7'0-7'1.5. Also Meltzer is full of $#&&!

Ola says on 17/Sep/08
Haystacks didnt look even 6'6 next to akira maeda but more likely 6'5... Ghost i agree with you there's now proof of tyler mane being above 6'8-6'9 but he's atleast 6'7 i think 6'7 1/2 could be right on

Ghost says on 17/Sep/08
Danimal,

To be fair, there is no proof of Tyler Mane actually being 6'8-6'9. He looks slightly shorter than Scott Schwartz who looks 6'7 next to Mamun when compared with Mamun's picture of kane and himself.

I see Andre as being close to 7 feet in his youth and 6'9-6'10 near the end of his life.

Haystacks I can't see as much over 6'7 in his prime looking at his staredowns with Big Daddy (around 6'1) and Akira Maeda. 6'8 is the absolute highest number I could give him.

Chris says on 17/Sep/08
Mamun -
Here is one attempt at using your photo with Virgil as a comparison:
Click Here

I am posting again the photo comparison I used with myself Ted Dibiase and Andre:
Click Here

Lawrence says on 17/Sep/08
I think you are right Danimal,Ive allso seen Haystacks live about 12 times over the years,and seen him as far back has 1978,he was a lot taller than he's his givern gredit for,it is just like Andre becouse these two were well over 500lbs and 600lbs at times and as wide as barn doors and with bad posture they would never look tall like a thin Kevin Nash or a Khali,it is obvous if a peak young 7'.5''Big Show with munster boots with lifts only had Haystacks by 5'5''then he was still over 6'8''when he was 50,and that would be an evening height,and when they uses these pics of a cripled old Andre who can hardly walk and still has 3'' over a 6'7''Baba and a fat as a pig Haystacks who allmost trips up as he gets in to the ring with Big Show,then have the cheek to say, I do not think they would have lost much height,you can see from the hump on there backs they had lost height,you need to add a good 2'' to both of them to get there peak heights,and Andre may be more,

KingNick says on 17/Sep/08
Mamun, careful bro, don't let these crazy people get to you. Take it from someone with experience, it's just not worth it :>)

Danimal says on 17/Sep/08
I see a prime Haystacks at 6'8" at the very least and could very well have scraped 6'9". As for Andre. I believe he was 6'11.5"-7'0.25" in his prime. 3-4 years ago I used to think he was 7'1.5"-7'2" in his prime. No more.

Ola says on 17/Sep/08
if andre was 7ft why was he once billed to 6'10? (rounded up from 6'9 3/4)

Chaz says on 17/Sep/08
firstly,if this commission measured him befor a fight it was most likely a evening height,so he would be at least an inch taller in the morning,so he would average out at just over 6'10''.And Mrbig there is something rong,with a 6'6''Haystacks he was at least 1.5''-2.5''taller,there is much more evedence of a 6'8''Haystacks than a 7' Andre if you take the big boots out it is clear he was still over 6'7''at ner 50 with Big Show , and it is clear he was only 2'shorter than a peak Andre ,and in the JT comparason with Hogan he would have had the 6'5.5''Hogan by 3''. and he was 2-3'' taller than a 6'6'' door when I saw him in 1987,and he's got lower footwear too, Young Andre 6'10.5''old 6'9.5''.young haystacks 6'8.5''old 6'7.5''.that's the most I can give them.

Me says on 17/Sep/08
Meltzer's claims are BS. What do you think he is going to say??? Sorry I made a mistake, oops he was 7'. Give me a brake!! I emailed Andre and he said verbatim:
" Someone please kick Meltzer in the face with a size 22".

I'm getting Shaq on the line right now, gotta go.

Halb says on 17/Sep/08
I emailed Meltzer, this was his response verbatim

"He was measured in France legit for a match by a commission."

Anonymous says on 16/Sep/08
I have access to a copy of the coroners report and death cert from a credible source which documents andres exact measured height at the time of his death and i will be posting it here soon. All i can say now is that is a bombshell and it will shock most of you when u see what the height is listed at so stay tuned wow.

Me says on 16/Sep/08
JT this is where I have an issue with the photos that you post. When Andre is wearing Cowboy boots you point it out and bring his height down. However when you post pics of Big Show from WCW when he was wearing lifts,(because of being promoted as the Giant 7'4") and Munster boots you do not mention it and do not downgrade his height the same way you do Andre. Why?? Also you post pics of Andre against Big Show when Big Show has his lifts and Andre has his flat shoes on. That is not accurate. These two guys were basically the same height at their peak. Andre, when he was 27 and younger stood like a statue most of the time, like Big Show did & Khali still does. This is not apples to apples.

Dicksock you are right & that is something I said a long time ago. Andre was taller than doorways, he was over 7' at his peak.

Danimal says on 16/Sep/08
JT wants Haystacks at 6'6"-6'7" to support his claim that Andre was always 6'10". JT is ignoring the fact that Andre had minimum 2" on 6'8"-6'9" Taler Mane in 1990 and this was a hunched over, buckled knees barely able to stand up (let alone stand up straight), in comparison to a young Andre. We discuss how Big Show can't stand straight anymore in his mid-late 30's, YET, Andre supposedly was a picture perfect bill of health and vitality in 1990. Come on JT, Andre was around 6'10" in and around his death and was between 6'11.5"-7'0.25" 15-20 years earlier.

Mamun says on 16/Sep/08
My friend & hero RED I need your help again ! Because I see you as the King
of comparison pictures . Also you have helped me in the past so well that
I shall ever be so grateful ! There are some ( Very kind and fair to Andre)
posters here who actually have BIG SHOW towering over Andre by almost 4 to 5
inches ?????????????????????????? Even Ola would find this hard to believe
let alone a man who is drunk ? And it's also the very same kind posters who
get angry by the very mention of BIG SHOW wearing lifts ? So are we now to
believe that BIG SHOW is 7' 5" barefoot ? ?????????????????????????

My friend RED this is what you could do to save US Andre the 7 foot truth
lovers ! You have my picture with Virgil here in this Site and then there
is this very good picture of Virgil and Ted Debiasi and Andre ( in black
suite and standing very straight same distance from the Camera ) . If you
would kindly put a ruler to my height and put me at 5' 9" ( me with shoes )
and then put Andre and virgil in the same picture ( using Virgil as ref. ) ,
then I think we may have rock solid proof ! Please make the picture as large
as possible so that we all can see the measurements . But also large enough
for us to easily download and save the pic !

I am sorry if I call for you too much but I believe the job of heros is to
fight for truth and Justice ( some thing I don't see a lot in this site )!
That's where heros like you come in ?

Kind regards

Supermun

KingNick says on 16/Sep/08
JT just posted this pic which is one of the best I've seen of Andre and Hogan staredowns Click Here the camera angle/level is pretty even. I see at least 5" there, it looks similar if not the same between Undertaker and Khali Click Here

So however tall you think Andre and Hogan are, I think there's a 5" difference between the two, like Undertaker and Khali. Here are the comparisons again:

Click Here and Click Here

dicksock says on 16/Sep/08
Steve says on 16/Sep/08
its funny how everyone wants to be right. There are those who want Andre at 7'0 peak (which there is no real proof yet) and those who says hes 6'9 or about that. I think Rob has it right, Andre was billed at 212cm in one of his photos (where he was quite young) and that looks to be most accurate peak height. Theres no real point of debating his height unless further photos come up where Andre is with someone tall (6'8 or more). You cant accurately compare someone close to 7 foot to someone whos 6'0 etc.

Are you serious? Man you have to be stupid or something. How is there no proof that Andre was likely 7' at his tallest. How about the Wilt picture, the pic with the 6'6 Baker Baker, the fact that he is taller than every door he's been photographed next to, the testimonies of people that knew him including his trainer who said he measured him at 7'1.5", the fact that he had 5" on Baba in 1982(and that IS taking into consideration the cowboy boot factor. With the boots there is at least 6"). There are countless examples of Andre appearing about 7' next to others. He towered above the 6'4 King Kong Bundy. He towered over Maeda which Giant Haystacks did not. And I could give a million other cases where Andre looks 7'. I'm not saying that there is NO evidence of Andre looking under 7', but to say there is no proof that he was 7' is just about the dumbest comment I've ever heard.

Rick says on 16/Sep/08
willy79, Sorry, I personally don't have any pictures, but, as you can see from this board, opinions seem to be all over the place based on them. I stood next to Andre on two separate occasions, as did my brother and a friend and we all agree he was in the 6'9-10" range. It's really not that difficult to estimate once you're actually standing next to the man, especially when your brother is 6'4" and you've spent a lot of time around a friend who stands 6'9".

Halb says on 16/Sep/08
I emailed Meltzer aboot this, his response verbatim

"He was measured in France legit for a match by a commission."

Big Show says on 16/Sep/08
Rocky says on 15/Sep/08
Here is Andre's complete list of matches from 1974 when Andre was supposed to be measured by a French Athletic Commission as Meltzer states. Andre never wrestled in France in this time period so how could he possibly be measured he couldn't. By this time Andre was under contract with WWWF and how anyone especially Meltzer a supposed wrestling journalist knowing how Kayfabe was protected at this time believe that a McMahon would let someone measure their Billed 7'5 Giant is insane. It wouldn't happen. Andre left France in 1969 and never wrestled there at the time of the alledged measurement. Unless they sent a French Athletic Commission to the USA , Canada or Japan.(lol)
Click Here

Meltzer said Andre was measured in France at the age of 24. So that measurement could have been taken anywhere from May 19, 1970 til May 18, 1971. Not 1974 as you claim.
I don't know where the French athletic commission comes in, but I believe someone on here claimed he emailed Meltzer about this measurement and he replied that Andre was measured before a match by a French athletic commission.
I need a little bit more proof before I believe such measurement ever took place. Personally I think it's highly unlikely that he was measured before a match in France. He was contracted to wrestle in Japan and after that he went to Canada. Would those contracts allow Andre to wrestle in France with a different wrestling organization?

MrBig says on 16/Sep/08
somthing is rong here,how can Loch Ness(Haystacks) be only 6'6'',it looks to me in the pic of them in the ring,that they are the same height,in fact if you look Loch Ness is looking down at the ref,even if you take in to account the camara being closer to Loch Ness,there cannot be anymore than 1-2''differance,and it looks like he would have had 2.5-3''on Hogan,so ether Hogan was 6'3.5''and Andre 6'8''peak,or Loch Ness was a lot taller than 6'6''.

Frank says on 16/Sep/08
Rick i believe you but i believe Big Show wore lifts and i dont know if Show was actually taller but i believe there were very close in height

Steve says on 16/Sep/08
its funny how everyone wants to be right. There are those who want Andre at 7'0 peak (which there is no real proof yet) and those who says hes 6'9 or about that. I think Rob has it right, Andre was billed at 212cm in one of his photos (where he was quite young) and that looks to be most accurate peak height. Theres no real point of debating his height unless further photos come up where Andre is with someone tall (6'8 or more). You cant accurately compare someone close to 7 foot to someone whos 6'0 etc.

dicksock says on 16/Sep/08
In the picture of Silo Sam where he is standing in a door frame, how come he is barely taller than the frame? I guess my point is everyone here agrees the SS was over 7' when he is clearly barely taller than a regular door frame. But, when there are multiple photos of Andre next to doors showing him just as tall compared to the doors as SS people say Andre was under 7'. I mean, am I supposed to believe that the door that SS was shown by was significantly taller than all the ones that Andre has stood in/next to? I'm just asking because I've never heard anyone bring this point up.

JT says on 15/Sep/08
Chris says on 15/Sep/08
Here is another comparison of Andre and Haystacks that I think is pretty close to accurate based on the first photo that was posted of them. What do you think?
Click Here

That’s very close to what I came up with Chris Click Here
Click Here My estimate is Andre at around 6’10” here (1985-1987) and Haystacks between 6’6” and 6’7” (1996)
Big Show comes out around 3 inches taller than Andre at this time period (1987), but he probably has up to a .50" to .75” footwear advantage over Andre, who started to wear boots with a thicker heel from 1986 onward.
Click Here Click Here

This may give a rough idea how Andre would have stacked up in that one pic with Haystacks had he been standing straight. Click Here Andre is farther from the camera so he’d come out even taller next to Haystacks.

willy79 says on 15/Sep/08
Does anyone here beside word of mouth, have any proof of a 6'9 death certificate?

willy79 says on 15/Sep/08
Rick says on 15/Sep/08
Me, Nearly ten years before Andre's passing he only stood about 6'10" and I'd say that was perhaps the twilight of his peak. Personally, I would ignore multiple pics here, especially from the 80's, where it looks like Andre is 7'+. I stood directly next to the man, as did two other people associated with me, and we all agree even more than 20 years later that the man was about 2" shy of the 7' mark. I've also stood next to legitimate 7 footers like Big Show, Kiel, and Silo Sam and every one of them was several inches taller than Andre.

Do you actually have picture proof?

Rick says on 15/Sep/08
Back in the early 70's, I don't believe Vince Sr.'s influence extended much past the Northeast, let alone France.

Chris says on 15/Sep/08
Here is another comparison of Andre and Haystacks that I think is pretty close to accurate based on the first photo that was posted of them. What do you think?
Click Here

Halb says on 15/Sep/08
It's a 'documented' list, not complete. Plus the measurement was by a commission, maybe the match was cancelled maybe it was for a news event, it's difficult to know. Would Vince snr's influence extend to France? The point is, it doesn't disprove it.:D

Rick says on 15/Sep/08
Me, Nearly ten years before Andre's passing he only stood about 6'10" and I'd say that was perhaps the twilight of his peak. Personally, I would ignore multiple pics here, especially from the 80's, where it looks like Andre is 7'+. I stood directly next to the man, as did two other people associated with me, and we all agree even more than 20 years later that the man was about 2" shy of the 7' mark. I've also stood next to legitimate 7 footers like Big Show, Kiel, and Silo Sam and every one of them was several inches taller than Andre.

Rick says on 15/Sep/08
Rocky says: "Andre left France in 1969 and never wrestled there at the time of the alledged measurement. Unless they sent a French Athletic Commission to the USA , Canada or Japan." (lol)

Maybe Andre was in France visiting family, vacationing with friends, or stopped by to take care of other business matters between bookings. There's some stretches in 1972 where he had nearly a month off. Don't think it's unreasonable at all to assume this. His star was on the rise then and I don't necessarily believe he needed to be wrestling in France to have had contact with the French Athletic Commission.

Chris says on 15/Sep/08
I wasn't sure with wrestler's tab I should post this link to, but this a brief album of myself posing with various wrestlers that I have met over the years...
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Just a few brief notes-before someone starts questioning my height:)
1. In the photo of me and Steve McMichael...I was wearing sandels and he was wearing cowboy boots.
2. In the recent photo with Roddy Piper...he was wearing cowboy boots which is why he looks closer to my height.
3. The gym photo...is with the Don and Ron Harris...who both wrestled in the WWF and WCW....I know there is some footage of them and Kevin Nash...I will try and hunt down....both guys looked around 6'6 or a tag taller.
4. The Japanese man I am with is Mr. Saito...who was actually taller than I thought he would be.

Rocky says on 15/Sep/08
Andre never wrestled in France after 1969 through the 1970's from what I can gather. He was 23 when he left and 23 when he debuted in North America. Again proving Meltzer's alledged measurement at the age of 24 never took place . It's mathmatically impossible. Meltzer was trying to sell a book and the more contraversy the better. Whether it was 1970 , 1972 , 1974 etc. he was supposed to be measured. He was not in France to be measured. THE PROOF IS THERE IF YOU JUST READ IT FROM 1969 - 1992 ALL OF HIS MATCHES.

Chaz says on 15/Sep/08
well has much as I,m a big fan of Andre's I now after seeing the comparason of Andre and Haystacks belive he was not over 6'10.5'',as ive said befor ive talked to peopla who have seen more pics from 1980 fights with Haystacks and they say there was no more than 2''diff,and some said they where the same height,if you cut out the hair,so the only way Andre was over 7' was if Haystacks was the 6'11'' he was billed,which I do not belive,he looked about 2-3'' taller than a 6'6''door when I saw him in 1987,he was in the 6'7.5''-6'8.5''range.it is very hard to tell with haystacks cos he was so wide,

Rocky says on 15/Sep/08
Here is Andre's complete list of matches from 1974 when Andre was supposed to be measured by a French Athletic Commission as Meltzer states. Andre never wrestled in France in this time period so how could he possibly be measured he couldn't. By this time Andre was under contract with WWWF and how anyone especially Meltzer a supposed wrestling journalist knowing how Kayfabe was protected at this time believe that a McMahon would let someone measure their Billed 7'5 Giant is insane. It wouldn't happen. Andre left France in 1969 and never wrestled there at the time of the alledged measurement. Unless they sent a French Athletic Commission to the USA , Canada or Japan.(lol)
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Shaq says on 15/Sep/08
Great comparison from '76, '87 and '91 JT. It shows that Andre's height loss has been greatly exaggerated.

Since it's been said that Andre was measured at 6'9" when he died I don't think it's out of the question that he was just 6'9 3/4" in his prime.

Ola says on 15/Sep/08
aram x, not strong at all. dont believe one word they say about his "strength"

Halb says on 15/Sep/08
I don't know how tall Frazier was but if he was only 6'8 that's some billed height:D

Johnny says on 15/Sep/08
The wedding of Elmer is on Youtube. But he is clearly a bit shorter than Andre. But I´ve also read that there was some backstage heat between him and Andre, because they were so close in both mass and height and Andre did not want to lose his giant status. I think a young Frazier could have been 6´9" a young Andre 6´10.5". In the eighties however Andre went down to about 6´9.5", while Frazier looks like 6´8"

Ghost says on 15/Sep/08
Elmer was probably about 6'8 since he had a head-size on 5'10 Jerry Lawler.

In the wedding sequence he walks by Andre and doesn't look much shorter, probably about 2 inches.

Halb says on 15/Sep/08
If I would give any advice to newcomers it would be to ignore the rants and pleas and make up your own mind from the billed material and pics:D

Halb says on 15/Sep/08
Haters is a strong word. Andre was my fave wrestler. You might want to say that 7foot plus is a holy grail that some people will always want to achieve for Andre no matter what contradictory evidence turns up. Delusion in a nutshell:D
John I heard that as well. Elmer was also sometimes billed as high as 7'8. That's a whopping 10 inches, prolly the biggest upgrade I have heard of. Even bigger than Andres and Gonzales.

willy79 says on 14/Sep/08
I think it assured that Andre's height should be boosted an inch Rob!

willy79 says on 14/Sep/08
Halb says on 14/Sep/08
He doesn't look 7 feet in 'all' these photos. He looks tallest in one Wilt pic.
Meltzer says a French athletic commission measured Andre.

Thats the problem "meltzer says"! I believe that undecided moron about as much as I believe Andre was 7'5!

Me says on 14/Sep/08
Meltzer, now there's a credible source......NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rocky & Freddy prepare yourself for stupidity the likes from which you have never seen, from the Andre haters. You can put all the pics you want up clearly and definitively displaying Andre as over 7' tall, which he was, and these idiots will continue to put up pics that prove absolutely nothing at all. Like myself and every other human on the planet when we do not stand up straight we are not our tallest. WOW what a concept!!! But haters, by all means continue to put pics up that display people like Giant Haystacks and Andre where they are not up right or even leaning over for goodness sake and try and make the case that Andre was not 7'+. At the same time completely ignore the multiple pics where Andre is standing flat or even barefoot and he is 7'+ tall. Andre could be standing next to 100 7' footer's and if he was barefoot and was as tall as they were in the pic, there would be some on here that would try and convince you that he was not 7' by posting a pic of him standing next to someone who is 5'6" and say his head was not that big and he was only 6'9"!!!!!! Trust me this happens all the time.

Happy posting and ignore the haters. Andre was 7'+, not anything under and not 7'4". Again remember this is supposed to be a peak height page, not death.

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