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Frank says on 3/Jul/09
Studd was on a show years back called Hunter and the actor who played Hunter was Fred Dywer he was also a pro football player and he was listed @ 6ft 6 and Studd looked about 2 inches on him which i know with TV they can do tricks with the camera to make someone appear taller
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MK says on 2/Jul/09
….And why do you assume Steamboat was as tall then as he is now?
I don't. He looked no more than 5'10" in his prime and WWE lists him at 5’10”
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A full 5’10” may even be generous.
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With Mike Rotunda Click Here and Roddy Piper
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My good god, Roddy Piper SEEMS to look 6'1'' in the later pic, perhaps you should post that on Hogans page. dicksock says on 3/Jul/09
I'd still go with 5'11" for a peak Steamboat because he wasn't 2" shorter than a peak Flair. There are pics online of this. dicksock says on 3/Jul/09
There is a new interview clip of Macho Man with Adam Corolla. Macho Man gets asked about Andre's height and he says 7'2". It's on youtube. Just type in "Daily Medicine with Adam Carolla 07 01 2009" Its 3 min 28 sec long. Pretty funny to. i-Clarke-93 says on 3/Jul/09
The only time Studd ever looked less than 6'6' was in that video with 6'4.5 - 6'5 Bill Fralic. We don't know that Fralic wasn't standing on his toes in that video however. Chris says on 3/Jul/09
JT is correct in his statements about Steamboat...I have see Steamboat several times over the years and 5'10" is great estimate...Maybe 5'9 1/2" BTW, in the photo of Steamboat and Studd....John is holding his son, John Jr....I believe that was taken in late 1985 or early 1986. general93 says on 3/Jul/09
stud was definetly taller than 6'5" or 6" we've all agreed jake roberts was 6'5" and stud had 2" on him in 1989.also if u look at guys like jbl who are listed 6'6" there not on the same tall stature as studd.studd taker kane and sid are all in the same stature of height hard to tell exactly but all in 6'7-9" range.andre and big show are in the same structure around the 7ft mark and heavier aswell. JT says on 3/Jul/09
MK says on 2/Jul/09
….And why do you assume Steamboat was as tall then as he is now?
I don't. He looked no more than 5'10" in his prime and WWE lists him at 5’10”
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A full 5’10” may even be generous.
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With Mike Rotunda Click Here and Roddy Piper
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JT says on 2/Jul/09
Nash and Sting from I believe around 1996: Click Here
Studd and ~ 5'10" Ricky Steamboat: Click Here Studd would have to have close to a full head size on Steamboat if he was really in the 6'8" range.
And why do you assume Steamboat was as tall then as he is now? dicksock says on 2/Jul/09
In regards to that Steamboat/Studd pic, I would say Steamboat in his prime would be closer to 6' or at least around 5'11". Also Studd could look taller in that pic if he wanted. He is leaning with his head tilted slightly. I perfectly postured John Studd would have 8" on Ricky Steamboat. In my opinion that would put him at 6'7" assuming Steamboat was 5'11. He didn't appear to be 2" shorter than Ric Flair, who was 6' or maybe 6'0.5" in his prime. Also, when Studd was teaming with Kolwalski he was about 2" taller at least. I would say that it is IMPOSSIBLE for John Studd to have been under 6'6". I would put him at MINIMUM 6'6.5" and MAXIMUM 6'7". To me, its pretty clear he was around between those heights. Just as I'm sure a peak Andre was at least 7' tall. BTW, when is that Frenchy Bernard interview going to be posted? JT says on 2/Jul/09
Nash and Sting from I believe around 1996: Click Here
Studd and ~ 5'10" Ricky Steamboat: Click Here Studd would have to have close to a full head size on Steamboat if he was really in the 6'8" range. pjk says on 1/Jul/09
Where can i find the Kiel/Andre photo please anyone ? Danimal says on 1/Jul/09
Studd was not 6'5". Anonymous says on 30/Jun/09
I remember seeing an old picture of Studd and Paul Orendorf. Studd was not all that much taller, Paul came up to about his eyebrows, making Studd at most 6 inches taller. I thought this was strange since at the time Orendorf was listed at 6'2 and Studd 6'11. Knowing that Orendorf was not 6'5+ I figured Studd must only be about 6'8. But I see now that Orendorf went into the hall of fame at 5'11. Which would make Studd only about 6'5. I suspect that Orendorf was 6'0 and Studd was 6'6 explaning why Studd was 1 inch taller than Fralic. dicksock says on 29/Jun/09
dicksock says on 28/Jun/09
On TNA this Thursday, there was a promo with Sting and Kevin Nash standing right next to each other in the ring for quite a while from all different angles. Nash didn't look more than 4" taller than him the whole time. This isn't really related to Andre, but I just wondered if anyone else saw this weird segment and if so, if they could explain it. I was confused the whole time. If Sting is 6'2", Nash looked about 6'6". But we all know Nash is AT LEAST 6'9 and probably closer to 6'10".
Please disregard that statement. I wasn't really closely paying attention to that whole segment. I just rewatched it AFTER I posted and it's clear Nash is about 8" taller. There is only a few spots where they look closer in height than they should. Again, sorry for the stupid post. Vegas says on 29/Jun/09
i saw that, at times nash looked 6 inches maybe more taller but the camera angle favoured sting, here is last week, matt morgan who is in the 6-8 region (i met him twice in person and who we know is roughly the same height as nash maybe half inch shorter (they had a staredown) towering over sting Click Here Clay says on 28/Jun/09
I dont think Big Show has been ''slim'' since he was in his mid teens. dicksock says on 28/Jun/09
On TNA this Thursday, there was a promo with Sting and Kevin Nash standing right next to each other in the ring for quite a while from all different angles. Nash didn't look more than 4" taller than him the whole time. This isn't really related to Andre, but I just wondered if anyone else saw this weird segment and if so, if they could explain it. I was confused the whole time. If Sting is 6'2", Nash looked about 6'6". But we all know Nash is AT LEAST 6'9 and probably closer to 6'10". AKK says on 27/Jun/09
Big Show had acromegaly as well. It's just that they stopped it earlier. He looked damn slim in 2007. Then he started porking up. :( Nathan P says on 27/Jun/09
Just remember Andre had a disease where The big show doesn't. Andre started to put more wait on and loose height. most people that get bigger look taller but the opposite for Andre. In real life if a body builder faced up to Andre the body builder would get man handled because Andre is still known to Super human strength. general93 says on 27/Jun/09
different angles its amazing the way some of yous even go by some staredowns like andre and hogan at wm 3 i mean hogan had the camera totally in his favour if hogan was standing centre in the ring and andre had walked over to him from the corner hogan wud have been completely dwarfed andre easily had hogan by 6" or more! bill fralic was listed 6'7" aswell in his early playing days but anyway he'd huge black boots on and in the battle royal studs taller than fralic.ernie ladd certainly didnt have 3-4" on studd and ed jones certainly didnt have 4-5" on studd.he was about 6'8" lowest 6'7" Anonymous says on 26/Jun/09
I suspected the same thing when I saw the Fralic video, so I watched it real close. No way was Fralic on his tip toes! when he walks over from Mean Gene, there is no change of height whatsoever, and he is not straining the way a person who would be walking around a stage on his toe's would be. Fralic was just as relaxed as Studd. Maybe Studd was on his toes. If anything Fralic could have raised his chin up even further and gained another .25 inc. pjk says on 26/Jun/09
I have looked at all the evidence here (except the kiel/Andre comparison - where is that?) and to state the obvious there appears to be two bodies of evidence.
1. Photos. All very difficult to estimate. The photo next to Wilt would suggest Andre to be under seven feet (if wilt is as stated) in later years (by 2-3" ??) as despite perspective etc he does appear to be the shorter man (this is not however great evidence as to exact height).
2. The measurements over the years, and his height at death. Height measurements need to be made atleast twice in the day to have any degree of accuracy using accurate anthropometric equipment. At least - on first standing in the morning and at a set time in the evening to be accurate. So, the validity of the measurements comes into question (if only one measurement is taken then if the time of day is known and time of arising, this can help.) The height at death (unless taken before death - ie standing) would only be an estimate as gravity and rigor mortis would affect any estimate.
Sorry, im rambling but i do feel the best giant of all time did reach 7ft (or there abouts). As previously mentioned, the measurement at 22 along with the estimate of his height in later years (~6'10") would tie in with an expected height loss of around 2-3" over that time period.
Andre will live on in memory - truely an awesome looking individual aarod says on 26/Jun/09
ever stand on yoru tip toes Halb? i personally gain 2 inches of height. 6'5" fralic was on his toes in the picture, i wouldnt lie about what i saw, i have no emotional stake in studd being 6'7" or 6'10" or 2'3" for that matter. i am simply trying to use his height as a good meter for measuring andre's. everything has to be taken into account, including 6'5" fralic standing on his toes because the camera wouldnt pick that up. aarod says on 26/Jun/09
next time i am home, i will check my 1978 guiness book of records. my mother bought it for me at my birth, and it has wilt's offical height in there. aarod says on 26/Jun/09
Dr. Zaius.. the general consensus is Andre was somewhere between 6'11.5" and 7'1.5" at his peak and 350-400 lbs, and he was confirmed to be 6'10" and 555 lbs at his death. he was never 6'7" less than a year before his death, he was a good two inches taller than 6'8" tyler mane, so this isn't in dispute by anyone unless you are an idiot LV says on 26/Jun/09
Dr.Zaius says on 24/Jun/09
Sergei Ladan is legitimately 7'8" and about 650lbs, he blows Andre out of the water.
You really can't compare him to Andre. Laden is so unathletic that he fell down and knocked out his teeth when he tried to play basketball. Plus, even though he has large muscles, he's actually quite weak. He was part of a special on National Geographic and they specifically mentioned that his unusual anatomy made his muscles weaker than you would expect. Dr.Zaius says on 25/Jun/09
Sorry for being so disparaging to Andre, I grew up watching the guy and loved him. He was never 7'4", more like 6'11" at his tallest and eventually shrunk to 6'7". He had a weird shape accentuated by an prodigious ottoman sized head distended torso enormous buttocks and massive hands and feet. Of course these features were brought on by his acromegalic gigantism. Chaz says on 25/Jun/09
you are right Big Show Igor Ladan is nowhere nere 650lbs, Hussain Bisad is much wider than him and he only weighs 465lbs at about 7'7''and I belive he has the biggest feet and hands in the would at this time UK size 26 and hands 10,78'', Big Show says on 25/Jun/09
Vegas says on 25/Jun/09
ah so?? never heard of the guy, would 35 million people have tuned in to watch Sergei Ladan perform on tv like they did to watch andre and hulk hogan on saturday nights main event in 1988??
I think he's referring to Igor Ladan. He's 7'8" but nowhere near 650 lbs (looks more like 450). Vegas says on 25/Jun/09
Dr.Zaius says on 24/Jun/09
Sergei Ladan is legitimately 7'8" and about 650lbs, he blows Andre out of the water.
ah so?? never heard of the guy, would 35 million people have tuned in to watch Sergei Ladan perform on tv like they did to watch andre and hulk hogan on saturday nights main event in 1988?? Dr.Zaius says on 24/Jun/09
Sergei Ladan is legitimately 7'8" and about 650lbs, he blows Andre out of the water. general93 says on 24/Jun/09
i think studd was 6'7" at death but he may have been taller in youth.big show is going throgh the same cycle of andre i mean paul white id say has lost 1" of height over 10 years lets see him in another 10 years more weight and older he will also look shorter. Chuck says on 24/Jun/09
BMI is not accurate. It doesn't distinguish between muscle mass and fat. Take a prime 6' 6" 302 lb. Hulk Hogan for example. His bmi was 34.9 which according to their charts is morbidly obese. Hogan was all muscle, still is. So BMI is not accurate. AKK says on 24/Jun/09
Using BMI to measure for obesity doesn't work with guys this size. Assuming Andre was about 400lb, that puts him at 178.57kg. Divide by the square of his height in metres(2.12), that puts him at BMI of 39. Well into the "morbidly obese" category. The problem is that when you double the size of the bones, you octuple their mass. Likewise for muscles, fat, etc. And let's face it, the guy was easily 5 or 6 "normal"(which, in my case, is my own size, 5'8" and 130~150lb) guys in size. Marotte says on 23/Jun/09
Boss says on 22/Jun/09
Anonymous says on 21/Jun/09
The car he is lifting doesn`t even weigh 1500 lbs and the engine is at the front of the car so no that`s not impressive.
I would love to see you do it if it's not impressive. Here is Andre lifting the front end of a very heavy car. These cars in 1969 are solid and heavy. My 1990 Grand Prix weighed 3400+ pounds and a 2001 Nissan Altima weighs 2945 and the car Andre is lifting is closer to 4000 pounds as it is heavy than cars today.Click Here
The car that he is lifting in the video is a mini don`t tell me that car weighs 4000 pounds that`s just not true and to say that all 1969 car were heavy is also not true for a comparison the new challenger`s are 500 pounds heavier than the old one. Halb says on 23/Jun/09
I have only ever read that it was 7'1 1/16. Boss who has read the book also has stated this. Can anyone else comment?
I reckon Studd was no more than 1 inch over Fralic. I cannot see any difference between Dalip and Shaq. aarod says on 23/Jun/09
just thought this was funny.. this is what happens when asians get acromegaly:
Click Here aarod says on 23/Jun/09
enough of this Khali nonsense. Khali is at LEAST 7'1", and more than likely he is 7'1.5" to 7'2", as he edges out shaquille o'neal just slightly in that picture online. comparing him to a cut out picture of andre is great for showing just how big andre's head was , but it does nothing to prove or disprove Andre's height. now, pictures of khali against vince macmahon and pics of andre against vince mcmahon are great ways to compare the two. aarod says on 23/Jun/09
@Halb ... Wilt's official measured height by the guiness book is 7'1.16", not 7'1 1/16" as editor Rob has. meltzer analysed the photo and estimated a 1 inch difference in height between andre and wilt, but based on an assumed height of 7'0.5" for Wilt, this means Andre is at least a full 1/2" or better taller than melzter's estimate, and that puts Andre at 7' in 1983, when andre was past his prime in stature. people forget that he died like 7 years later. when andre was at his peak height, he probably weighed a full 100 pounds less. weight has a drastic effect on people's standing height especially Giant's with acromegaly, because the bones and organs grow in a distorted manner over time. Andre never had his condition treated, so the tumor that caused his pituitary to continually secrete massive amounts of growth hormone over his entire lifespan. once his growth plates sealed in his bones, it started to affect his posture and his chest and internal organ size. the heavier his chest got, the more his posture would sink. a 7 foot measurement in 1983 makes it EASY for me to believe a peak andre was 7'0.5" as Frenchy Bernard claims he was measured at in japan. Everyone KNOWS he was 6'10" at his death and weighed 555 lbs.
and as to the Stdd/Fralic video, the video is a closeup video the whole time, it shows nothing of their feet or even below the waist for that matter. It isnt difficult for an Athlete such as Fralic to stand on his toes the whole time in a short-ass interview. I've seen the picture myself and have no emotional stake in Studd being shorter than his perported *6'10"* measurement. i myself believe, based on photographic and video evidence, that he was somewhere in the neighborhood of 6'7"-6'8". I met him as a kid, but the only person i had to compare him to was my 6'3.5" father, and studd was considerably taller. Anonymous says on 23/Jun/09
andre was never at his peak "only" 6'10 (208cm) he was nothing less than 6'11.5-7'0.5 at his peak and glory days.. JT says on 23/Jun/09
Another shot of Big Show's "average sized" hands: Click Here Mikew says on 23/Jun/09
I can't believe people are actually debating Andre's strength. Doing so only underscores the obvious agendas involved and complete lack of credibility behind the 6'10ish estimates. It seems clear that, based upon all of the available evidence (pics, anecdotal reports, etc.), a peak Andre stood over 7 feet tall, somewhere between 7 feet and 7'1." While the 6'11.5" estimate by editor Robb can hardly dismissed as implausible (after all, we are only talking about a 1/2 to 1.5 inch difference), I think a 6'10" peak Andre is definitely out of the question. We've all seen the evidence, so there is no need to trot it out here again. Suffice to say that it is noteworthy that the same people who want to cast Andre at 6'10" are the same people downplaying his strength and otherwise criticizing him. Very interesting.
P.S. Putting aside the height issue, it is also truly incredible to hear people actually comparing Show and/or Kahli to Andre as an overall giant. Andre was sui generis, the one and only giant of wrestling, larger than life. There is no comparison. Think we'll be talking about Show or Kahli years after their respective deaths? Reading and discussing, years after the fact, tidbits and various anecdotal reports about their lives? I think not. dicksock2 says on 22/Jun/09
JT so Andre may be stronger and bigger than even Big Show and Khali, and maybe he could even tear Hulk Hogan apart in the 70's. That's no reason to hate him. Boss says on 22/Jun/09
Anonymous says on 21/Jun/09
The car he is lifting doesn`t even weigh 1500 lbs and the engine is at the front of the car so no that`s not impressive.
I would love to see you do it if it's not impressive. Here is Andre lifting the front end of a very heavy car. These cars in 1969 are solid and heavy. My 1990 Grand Prix weighed 3400+ pounds and a 2001 Nissan Altima weighs 2945 and the car Andre is lifting is closer to 4000 pounds as it is heavy than cars today. Click Here Clay says on 21/Jun/09
Looking at JT's photos it really isnt close, Khali is a far more impressive physical specimen than Andre the Giant ever was. Khali is just hated on because he's a poor wrestler, partly his fault, partly WWE's fault for diminishing his move arsenal. Anonymous says on 21/Jun/09
The car he is lifting doesn`t even weigh 1500 lbs and the engine is at the front of the car so no that`s not impressive. kinggollum says on 21/Jun/09
JT you really do hate Andre don't you? I mean any way you can find to degrade him, you'll do it and even make stuff up about him too. Boss says on 21/Jun/09
Here at the 6:00 minute mark Andre lifting a car. His brother tells he used to do this to change flat tires. also his brother states that Andre's growth really took off when he was 16 years old.
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aarod says on 21/Jun/09
Flair said in a shoot interview that andre was a larger giant, but andre wasnt near the athlete that big show was. by the time flair wrestled andre on a regualr basis, i would agree, as andre was past his atheltic prime by the time he was liek 27 or 28
You are lying! Flair FLAT OUT RETRACTED HIS STATEMENT OF THE BIG SHOW BEING MORE ATHLETIC IN THAT INTERVIEW AND YOU KNOW IT. i-Clarke-93 says on 21/Jun/09
I know it's been posted before , but could someone please post the video of Studd and Fralic. Vegas says on 21/Jun/09
Duhon says on 21/Jun/09
Just wondering what would the physique of someone legitimately 7'4" and 500 pounds look like?
closest i know would be Jerry Sokoloski who is approx 7'4 (claimed 7'6 for a long time until meeting Neil Fingleton) and about 450lb in this photo Click Here Halb says on 21/Jun/09
@aarod. Meltzer had Wilt at 7'0½", not 7'1. That is ½ an inch. Also, the video we watch of the face between Studd and Fralic doesn't show that he was tip-toeing aarod says on 21/Jun/09
Flair said in a shoot interview that andre was a larger giant, but andre wasnt near the athlete that big show was. by the time flair wrestled andre on a regualr basis, i would agree, as andre was past his atheltic prime by the time he was liek 27 or 28
also.. there is a regualr photographed picture roaming on the net of that face-off between bill fralic and john studd, and it is a distant picture, and fralic is on his tip-toes to equal studd's height, its very funny what they do that the video camera doesnt catch just to build things up. Duhon says on 21/Jun/09
Just wondering what would the physique of someone legitimately 7'4" and 500 pounds look like? aarod says on 21/Jun/09
funny thing is, that wrist measurement of Andre's is undersized, even though i know thats from the Wrestlemania 3 program. i remember seeing a youtube video of Andre getting his wrist measured by a commentator, and it was 12 1/4 inches. he wore a pocket watch around his wrist too in the clip.. ill search for it and post it if i can find it aarod says on 21/Jun/09
ohhh that khali video is good video, because it shows khali compared to vince mcmahon. theres plenty of video of mcmahon and andre laying around. pretty much shows to me that khali is around 7'1.5" if andre was 7'0" aarod says on 21/Jun/09
you guys keep forgetting that Rob just took the measurement that meltzer calculated in the picture with wilt chamberlain making that his peak height, because he knows that meltzer is a meticulous analyst. melzter made one fatal mistake though, he underrated wilt chamberlain's height by almost an inch. by meltzer's own estimates of their difference in height, this would put andre at over 7 feet tall, barely, but still over. i vote changing andre's peak height to 7'0.25-0.5" aarod says on 21/Jun/09
Khali wear a size 18 shoe, and Andre has a size 22 dress shoe and 24 sneaker.. plus, andre's body features were more distorted, so i would venture to say he may have had bigger hands than khali. we'll never know for sure, but look at this clip where gene orkerlund puts three of his fingers inside andre's ring
Click Here dicksock says on 20/Jun/09
I would say the second pic of Khali/Andre is probably pretty accurate. At least that is how I would imagine them side by side. Khali would be about an inch taller at the most and Andre would be more beefy. Marble says on 20/Jun/09
right both show and khali dwarf him in every way right jt :S come one man andre would not look that small next to khali Boss says on 20/Jun/09
Here is Andre lifting the front end of a car way off the ground in 1969.
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Here at the 6:00 minute mark Andre lifting a another car.
We have proof of Andre lifting two cars so what's the problem with him lifting a third.
Also I stated Andre's natural raw power was more than Khali or Big Show's. They are giants and weight lifters and very strong men but their strength was nowhere near a prime Andre. JT says on 20/Jun/09
Assuming a 6’10” Andre Click Here and 7’0” Andre Click Here As the head on the 6’10” Andre is still close to an inch larger than Khali’s, IMO this is closer to reality. A few here really don’t realize how large Khali is, especially in the upper body and hands. Click Here dicksock says on 20/Jun/09
Now we’ll enter fantasy land and pretend that Andre was a little over 7’0” in his thin-soled boots. Click Here Khali still measures up well next to him.
"fantasy land"!!???????? Are you high? If by fantasy land you mean what the vast majority of evidence suggests! And don't reply saying what evidence because that game is really getting old. Mamun says on 20/Jun/09
My friend Halb , that's the only one thing show did and Andre didn't do !
But if you compare the videos of Andre when he was in his late twenties to
that of either show or Khali , you will see my point ! Further more both
Khali and show uses performance enhancement drugs and Khali uses steriods !
One who says other wise is in dreamland . I have proof of what I say ! Andre
never took anything ! I have proof of that too !
Regards
Mamun Mamun says on 20/Jun/09
I wish I knew the answer to that one Cobra ? But it would have been awesome
if Andre " JAWS " the giant was in the James bond movies ! But I also read
somewhere that Andre's first love was wrestling which he used to perform
more than 300 days a year ! He simply didn't have time to start anything
else other than what he loved most . The two James Bond movies would have
taken away a lot of his wrestling time !
Regards
Mamun Marble says on 20/Jun/09
In that first picture khali doesnt look more than an inch or 1.5 inches taller than andre :S Cobra says on 20/Jun/09
Mamun says on 19/Jun/09
Here are some Andre Facts that the good people here don't know ;----
1) He was the first choice for playing JAWS in the 1977 james Bond movie
" The spy who loved me "
That`s interesting. Why it didn`t worked out? Halb says on 20/Jun/09
Mamun says on 19/Jun/09
My friends Vegas and Jt ! How come you don't even dare post videos of Andre
in the 1972 - 1976 era ? Can you prove even by a fraction that Both Khali
and Big Show ever moved like that in the Ring even when they were younger ?
Show could perform moonsaults Mamun. No other giant in history has matched that. I do like Andre, but on athletic level Show did far far more. JT says on 20/Jun/09
Rough comparison of Andre and Khali. Click Here This assumes a 1986 Andre was 6’11” barefoot and around 6’11.75” in boots and that Khali is 7’2” in his shoes. Andre was actually in decent shape here (probably under 450 lbs.) though the spandex may have been holding in his fat. Also shows how much the afro and curly hair later on added to Andre’s perceived height. Khali obviously would have measured up very well next to Andre, including in hand size and upper body.
Now we’ll enter fantasy land and pretend that Andre was a little over 7’0” in his thin-soled boots. Click Here Khali still measures up well next to him.
Before any ignoramuses claim that Khali has huge shoes on compared to Andre, that means he would have been a little taller than 7’2” in shoes, which would have made him come out even larger vis-à-vis Andre. And don’t claim that I should have used a peak height Andre when also claiming that Andre’s hands kept growing throughout his adult life – if that’s the case, Khali’s hands probably would have been larger than a peak height Andre’s. Mamun says on 19/Jun/09
Here are some Andre Facts that the good people here don't know ;----
1) He was the first choice for playing JAWS in the 1977 james Bond movie
" The spy who loved me "
2) The 1974 Guiness Book Of World records had enlisted him as the highest
paid wrestler of All time back then ! He was earning more than $ 400,000/-
a year . A sports Illustrated Magazine earlier actualy had him as the
highest paid professional athelete ! Only Muhammad Ali took the title
away from him !
3) He was in the early tolate seventies the second most famous sports man
on the planet ! Only Muhammad Ali was better known than him .
4) Andre used to wrestle 300 days in a year ! No professional sports man,
especially Khali and show can even come close to this .
5) The size of his hands and wrist larger than a Western Low land Razer
back Gorrila !
regards
Supermun miko says on 19/Jun/09
When it comes down to it we have to decide about "height". Forget about strength or who was heavier, who had the biggest hands, it doesn't really matter.
Who was tallest at there peak?
I certainly believe that Big Show at his peak was taller than a peak Andre by about 1 inch.
WWE superstars are told to try and keep to kayfabe, they have to try and fool the fans that Andre is the tallest wrestler ever, when clearly he wasn't. He was a very big man however.
He was somewhere between 6"11 and 7"0 at his biggest, Rob the editor has him nailed on for his peak.
Khali 7"1, Big Show 7"0 and Andre the Giant 6"11.5, all very big strong men in there own right. Cobra says on 19/Jun/09
I am not taking anything away from Andre, he was def. a strong and big dude.
But saying he is far superior physically against Big Show, is just not true.
Regarding WM III- it is just the moment nowadays most people remember Andre. Lebowski says on 19/Jun/09
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this one here should end the discussion as of who has the biggest hands. Especially at 0:38 when Andre takes his ring back from Gene. Clay says on 19/Jun/09
It is pointless argueing who is bigger and badder between Andre/Big Show/and Khali because we see them ''fighting'' in pro wrestling. They are simply putting on a show in the ring, not demonstrating full strength or whatever. dicksock says on 19/Jun/09
Boss, your belief that Andre lifted up a “4000 lb.” Model T era car, overturned a car with four people in them (while committing attempted murder in the process), and was as strong as Big Show and Khali combined explains a lot around here.
The fact that you don't believe it explains a lot about you. Mamun says on 19/Jun/09
My very good friend Cobra ! The date of that match was 1986 ! The first time
Andre ever lost a match to anyone through submission ! And Andre has Already
entered the age of forty ! ( his death sentence and his very fast decline )!
If you want proof of what I say then please take a look at Andre's Afro ???
What happened to it ????????? Well you all do remember Big John Studd and
King Kong Bunddy cut his hair in 1985 ? So that's rock solid proof that the
match was after 1985 ( Andre's journy to decline ) !
So my friend my understanding is that everything Andre does and his evidence,
personnal references from other Legends like Hulk Hogan , The car he lifted
was made out of card board , are all fake and non-sense ! But Big Show & Khali
are as real as Professional Body Builders & wrestlers not using Steriods ? And
when Andre wrestles someone and wins it's just because the other guy was going
easy on him ?
I forgot how to spell logic ? Is it I l l o g i c a l ? Is thats how you
spell it ?
Kind regards
Mamun dicksock says on 19/Jun/09
miko says on 19/Jun/09
Could Andre ever do this?
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Now that is agility for a REAL 7"0 giant.
Yes, actually Andre was known to be able to dropkick in his prime. Ric Flair says so and I've heard other people say so. Also, Andre was a "REAL" 7' giant. He was at least 7' tall and there is was too much evidence to back that up. Andre would have edged out the Big Show in height. Also, the only reason show looks so big there is because he lifted weights. Andre didn't go to the gym so he didn't have that overly muscular look to him. That doesn't mean anything. Even ric flair took back what he said about Show being more atheletic than Andre in that shoot interview where he compares them. And he said Andre was BIGGER THAN HIM. I trust ric flair more than you. sorry dicksock says on 19/Jun/09
Nope. He was just the first real giant Hogans biggest enemy when Wrestling was at his biggest, he became a legend.
Sorry pal, but you are WAY wrong about that. That match was so famous because it was Hogan going up against Andre who was already a legend. Andre the Giant was the most famous wrestler of the 70's and early 80's. What you just said is like, "Hulk Hogan wasn't the most famous, he's just lucky he fought the Rock at WM 18, otherwise he wouldn't be a legend." In other words, Hogan became a legend because of that match with Andre, not the other way around. Andre was already a HUGE legend and star. Cobra says on 19/Jun/09
Mikew says on 18/Jun/09
Boss: Andre was, without question, the one and true giant of wrestling. Period, end of story.
Nope. He was just the first real giant Hogans biggest enemy when Wrestling was at his biggest, he became a legend.
miko says on 19/Jun/09
Could Andre ever do this?
That`s what I am talking about. The Dropkick, the Chokeslam, how he executed it (!).
And Boss, in Wrestling, it is your job and your ****in responsibility to go as easy as it gets on the dude you wrestle. (Goldberg never knew this)
@ Mamun, I saw the Inoki Match: Click Here
Inoki is "going easy" with him around 4:00.
Andre moves better than in the mid-late eighties, yeah, but Andre is in no way superior to Big Show, it`s the other way round.
And Khali is pretty much supposed to move the way he does.
So you say this isn`t a true giant lol Khali is a specimen.
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And a former Mr. India and Powerlifter. Kelso says on 19/Jun/09
Mamun you are the one who is biased Anonymous says on 19/Jun/09
Clay says on 18/Jun/09
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I know this is Andre's page but I just wanted to show some more love to Khali. This video gives you an idea of how huge his hands are. Boss....you do realize Big Show and Khali have to ''go easy'' on everyone in the ring as well? Face it Andre was nothing special compared to the giant of today.
First Andre was as tall as Khali and bigger than Big Show.
Second Andre could out wrestle Khali even the 1991 Andre could.
third Giant Paul Silva can out wrestle Khali and is taller than Khali. miko says on 19/Jun/09
Could Andre ever do this?
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Now that is agility for a REAL 7"0 giant. miko says on 19/Jun/09
I can't imagine Andre pushing Big Show around. I bet Andre never met a giant bigger than himself so he would be looking up to Big Show.
This talk of Andre being 100x stronger than Big Show, Khali etc has to stop, it's not true.
They are all strong men who you don't want to mess around with unless your over 7"0 yourself. Mamun says on 19/Jun/09
My friends Vegas and Jt ! How come you don't even dare post videos of Andre
in the 1972 - 1976 era ? Can you prove even by a fraction that Both Khali
and Big Show ever moved like that in the Ring even when they were younger ?
For the good people here who are not biased , you can all see those videos
on utube of Andre between the ages of 27 - 30 years old . I find it hard to
believe that someone seven feet tall and still weighing 400 pounds move like
that with such agility .I have watched both Khali's and Show's videos a Million and one times ! They don't even have one tenth of Andre's power and
wrestling skills . My friends please don't take my word for it ! watch the
1976 match of Andre between Antoni Inoki ! You will see how Inoki ( then a
very well known Martial arts expert ) desperately tries to keep his distance
from Andre but still couldn't do much harm to him with his kicks ! Also
watch a 1972 match of Andre againts Baron von Heski ! See how fast Andre
runs in the ring chasing Bobby Heneen !
Regards
Supermun dicksock says on 18/Jun/09
Type this in. "Nick Bockwinkel Part 6" dicksock says on 18/Jun/09
Mikew says on 18/Jun/09
Boss: Andre was, without question, the one and true giant of wrestling. Period, end of story.
Great comment. Also, to end the debate about Andre's hands and feet there is a video of Nick Bockwinkle talking about Andre on youtube. Clay says on 18/Jun/09
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I know this is Andre's page but I just wanted to show some more love to Khali. This video gives you an idea of how huge his hands are. Boss....you do realize Big Show and Khali have to ''go easy'' on everyone in the ring as well? Face it Andre was nothing special compared to the giant of today. Vegas says on 18/Jun/09
Boss says on 18/Jun/09
If Khali or Big Show were ever to face Andre in Andre's prime they would be buying him bottles of whine and hard stuff so Andre would go easy on them in the ring like everyone else did for Andre in Andre's prime. In the 1970's Andre was known as unbeatable in and out of the ring.
you do realise pro-wrestling is not real don't you lol, you are not allowed work stiff in pro-wrestling or someone tougher or more skilled than you will eventually kick your a*s (goldberg found this out the hard way twice in wcw and one of these was against jericho a much smaller man) or you get fired, pro-wrestling is about protecting your opponent not hurting them
your other comments about andre lifting a car was a publicity photo just like this is a publicity stunt Click Here JT says on 18/Jun/09
Some more pics of Big Show’s “unnoticeable” and "not so big" hands:
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Khali and Dorian Yates:
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Boss, your belief that Andre lifted up a “4000 lb.” Model T era car, overturned a car with four people in them (while committing attempted murder in the process), and was as strong as Big Show and Khali combined explains a lot around here. Boss says on 18/Jun/09
Hogan also stated in the same autobiography that he was 6'7 and Andre was a half foot taller than him. So Hogan has Andre at 7'1. Mikew says on 18/Jun/09
Boss: Andre was, without question, the one and true giant of wrestling. Period, end of story. Boss says on 18/Jun/09
If Khali or Big Show were ever to face Andre in Andre's prime they would be buying him bottles of whine and hard stuff so Andre would go easy on them in the ring like everyone else did for Andre in Andre's prime. In the 1970's Andre was known as unbeatable in and out of the ring. Hogan truly feared Andre and when asked who he most feared in wrestling Hogan's response will always be Andre. Andre had more natural strength than Khali and Big Show combined. He could easily lift the car for his brother to change the tire. We have him pictured lifting the front end of a car in 1969 that weighed in the 4000 pound area because cars back then were solid and very heavy and Andre never lifted weights. Then we have the A&E story of him turning a car on it's side with 4 guys in it. Big Show a few years back pushed a car off the ledge in the parking lot but what wasn't shown was the other wrestlers who actually helped him do it. Why would he need help when Big Show was hard into weights by this time. Andre grew up on a farm and I know from working on a farm in my younger years that the strength you build from farm work is a superior to anything else because my friend came to work with me and he was huge and could bench 300 pounds well after a harvest season he had a whole lot of respect for farm labor as I could do things that he couldn't even though he looked much stronger and could bench a 100 more pounds than myself. Vegas says on 18/Jun/09
Lebowski, nobody is saying andre hadn't huge hands, he stupidly huge ones, but others have huge hands too and to say otherwise is well wide of the mark
hulk hogan in his autobiography said big show had roughly the same size hands as andre with what he described as "the same sausage fingers", he said andres feet were bigger though, is he lying...maybe...maybe not
here is big show comparing his hands with Kevin Pereira who is listed at 5'10 Click Here screenshot Click Here
giant gonzales with regis and kathy lee Click Here screenshots Click Here regis was roughly the same height as mene gene for comparison purposes (check out WM7) Click Here Lebowski says on 18/Jun/09
Never before was the "lets-make-Andre-a-midget" bias more visible than now. People trying to persuade others that Kahli's or Big Show's hands were the same size as Andre's are biased to a degree that is not comprehensible for me anymore. While Andre's height is clearly a matter of debate, his hands are not! There are dozens of pictures and vids floating around in the internet that show that he must have had the biggest paws in professional sport. If you looked at Andre you immediately saw that his hands were big, whereas you don't notice that on guys like Big Show, who are about the same body size. Any explanations for this phenomenon?!?
Ppl, need to get serious again on this site! Cobra says on 18/Jun/09
Paul white Andre
7 ' Height 7' 4"
5oo lbs Weight 550 lbs
23" Neck 24"
65" Chest 70"
22" Biceps 20"
10" Wrist 11"
13 1/4" Hands 16"
18" Forearms 17"
34" Thighs 36"
22" Calves 22"
18 (6E) Shoe size 22"
That`s not true at all.
When did Andre ever looked like this?
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Now compare:
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Some guys don`t like it, but Big Show is stronger and bigger than Andre ever was. And yeah, he probably was also about a good inch taller when you would measure both at their peaks.
And comparing Andre/Khali physique wise- sry, but it`s is not that difficult to appear more massive when you have about 20% of bodyfat more.
Let`s trim down Andre to Khali`s fat level- about 15% maybe, he could be a little bit more ripped though, and then let`s make a comparison.
He would kill Andre physique wise. Halb says on 18/Jun/09
Khali is an abuser of steroids and growth hormone. Wheras Andre and Show were natural (at least TBS was in his WWF days) and weren't much of gym goers. Ghost says on 18/Jun/09
When Khali debuted in the WWE he was probably the most physically intimidating wrestler of all time.
There was no doubt he was 400+ pounds of pure muscle.
Since then he has lost quite a bit muscle mass. He is probably more like 380 lbs pounds now. Clay says on 17/Jun/09
LOL Khali probably has the largest arms I've ever seen.
And Danimal...Im more impressed by a giant who actually has a ripped muscle physique than some beer drinking slob like Show or Andre. LV says on 17/Jun/09
Woops. I posted the wrong link for Andre's hands. Here is the right one:
Click Here dicksock says on 17/Jun/09
Vegas says on 17/Jun/09
big show and andre are/were obese, anybody saying different is wrong, they became super obese because of their lifestyles, terrible diets and lack of exercise, just watch a big show match these days, the guy is sweating buckets by the time he makes it to the ring, the strain his weight is putting on his body is enormous and very dangerous
Big Show is fat now, but was thin in wcw and when he first entered the wwf. Andre was in great shape all the way until the early 80's. He had VERY little body fat in the 70's. Again, weight and mass does not equal fat. Andre was not a normal man. Even when he looked skinny, he was still over 370lbs. Again I've NEVER seen an Andre match from the 70's where he had flab bouncing around or man boobs or anything. I know its hard to believe that a man can just naturally get to 425lbs naturally without being fat, but Andre did. Also, he didn't gain muscle mass from weight lifting, like Khali or Big Show. That makes his size that much more impressive. Once he became virtually imobile he put on a lot of weight and became obese. I will grant you that. But, I prefer to remember the Andre of the 70's. JT says on 17/Jun/09
Here we go again with the purported handprint of Andre. It’s a gross exaggeration like every other WWE exhibit involving Andre. Click Here In case anyone claims that Andre’s hands kept getting thicker over the next 10 years, I can post pics of Andre’s hands from that time period as well. They always looked the same size and were never stupidly large like this WWE handprint exhibit. Andre had longer fingers than Big Show but the width of the hand and fingers were about the same. Click Here
Here’s a basketball Click Here and cell phone in Khali’s hand. Click Here Not sure the model but it’s pretty small. Here’s a U.S. quarter (~ 1 inch in diameter) in Big Show’s hand. Click Here Boss says on 17/Jun/09
LV says on 16/Jun/09
Big Show's hands were nowhere near as big as Andre's. These are pictures that Chris took and, useless Chris has enourmous hands, Big Show's hands aren't that big. His fingers definantely aren't very long for a 7 footer with acromegaly.
Big Show's hands compared to Chris':
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Andre's hand compared to Chris':
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Wow Andre's hands are much bigger than the Big Show's hands. I beleive some people on here are underestimating Andre's true size. Also Andre's hands , feet , head and internal organs never stopped growing his entire life. Marotte says on 17/Jun/09
No arms yeah right.... MrBig says on 17/Jun/09
You are right about the weight Chaz,it is like Nash he was all of 6'10''peak but I haver never realy had him has a Giant just too light,no real size I would say Vader was more of a giant than him in size much bigger man all rownd but only 6'3.5''and Khali has not the mass to be anywhere nere Andre's size he looks a funny shape to me,no arms no legs he needs a good 50kgs in weight to be any real giant. Vegas says on 17/Jun/09
big show and andre are/were obese, anybody saying different is wrong, they became super obese because of their lifestyles, terrible diets and lack of exercise, just watch a big show match these days, the guy is sweating buckets by the time he makes it to the ring, the strain his weight is putting on his body is enormous and very dangerous Chaz says on 17/Jun/09
the reason why,all these Khali fans are going on about Andre and Big Show being obese is because khali is much too light to ever be a real total Giant,even Gonzalas who was about 1/2 foot taller than them all,did not have the weight for he's height,he would have to have been 600lbs to look as big as Andre or Big Show,and khali at under 200kgs 440lbs well I know 5'10''powerlifters more than that,and that was the weight of Haystacks when he looked thin in 1975, LV says on 16/Jun/09
Big Show's hands were nowhere near as big as Andre's. These are pictures that Chris took and, useless Chris has enourmous hands, Big Show's hands aren't that big. His fingers definantely aren't very long for a 7 footer with acromegaly.
Big Show's hands compared to Chris':
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Andre's hand compared to Chris':
Click Here Danimal says on 16/Jun/09
Clay says on 16/Jun/09
Here's a tale of the tape between Big Show and Khali from last year's Backlash.
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This claims Big Show has a 15" Fist and Khali a 16" Fist. Most of those stats seem kayfabed to me. Khali isn't 420 lbs (or 7'3" for that matter). I doubt Big Show's waist is only 2 inches bigger than Khali's. And I doubt Khali's fists are as big as Andre's (or Big Show's).
On the other hand Khali's chest measurement seems a bit low to me. Andre's Japanese chest measurement of 65" sounds believable to me (the bio is from 1983).
According to a UK magazine from 1969 Andre's chest already measured 64", which is probably an exaggeration as Andre wasn't anywhere near the size he was in 1983. And I doubt it would measure 9 inches more than Khali's, who has an extensive bodybuilding background.
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The WWE announcers consistently rant and rave about the pure size of Khali. And his hands are easily just as big, if not bigger than Big Shows.
And you eat it up, don't you? general93 says on 16/Jun/09
pics dont mean a thing people can look all different heights in pics at any given time.studd 6'6" so he was 3" shorter than ernie ladd in their tag match and 4" shorter than ed too tall jones dont think so.in an interview with heenan and mcmahon when studd walks out he easily has vince by 6-7" im not sure of vinces height but i belive around 6'1-2" mark.as far as andre is concerned im sticking to the most logic in my eyes and that is around 7'-7'2" prime, early 80s 7ft, 1987 6'11 and 1991-death 6'10" Clay says on 16/Jun/09
Here's a tale of the tape between Big Show and Khali from last year's Backlash.
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This claims Big Show has a 15" Fist and Khali a 16" Fist. Most of those stats seem kayfabed to me. Khali isn't 420 lbs (or 7'3" for that matter). I doubt Big Show's waist is only 2 inches bigger than Khali's. And I doubt Khali's fists are as big as Andre's (or Big Show's).
On the other hand Khali's chest measurement seems a bit low to me. Andre's Japanese chest measurement of 65" sounds believable to me (the bio is from 1983).
According to a UK magazine from 1969 Andre's chest already measured 64", which is probably an exaggeration as Andre wasn't anywhere near the size he was in 1983. And I doubt it would measure 9 inches more than Khali's, who has an extensive bodybuilding background.
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The WWE announcers consistently rant and rave about the pure size of Khali. And his hands are easily just as big, if not bigger than Big Shows. Danimal says on 16/Jun/09
How many times must I post this? Here we have a PRIME MINIMUM 6'2" Jim Duggan giving away at least an inch to a PRIME Dibiase (7-10 second mark): Click Here Danimal says on 16/Jun/09
How many times must I post this? Here we have a PRIME MINIMUM 6'2" Jim Duggan giving away at least an inch to a PRIME Dibiase (7-10 second mark): Click Here Mikew says on 16/Jun/09
Re: Dibiase. Not sure about his later wrestling years, but Dibiase was definitely 6'4ish in his younger days. Check out some of the old Mid-South matches, in particular some of the tag matches with Duggan. You will see that Dibiase is clearly taller than the 6'3" Duggan. Daniel_Sweden says on 16/Jun/09
Mamun says on 15/Jun/09
Well my friends it looks as if there are still a lot many good people here
who are not impressed by Andre's incredible superhuman measuremnets ! Well
I ask you this : Kindly post some pictures of anyone else( non-obese ) who
might even have a chest and hands that may even look close to Andre's .You
also have to remember that Andre was also the only WWE superstar or Sports
Athlete for that matter who never took Steriods , Performance enhancement
drugs or lifted any weights in the Gym .He was simply all pure super human
strength and stemina !Former World's Olympic powerlifting champion and WWF
wrestler once commented that " If Andre took some time off and trained for
powerliting even for a little time , Then all the world's record will come
trumbling down !
Regards
Supermun
Well i agree with you mamun he was huge a mean very HUGE and not only tall the guy was huge all over..He really was a GIANT of a man...i mean his head,feet,hands,the jaw and not to mention his big chest/back...He was awesome...imagine if andre was standing next to you at 7'0 feet and 500-530 pounds...just look at the picture where andre is having dinner at the table with normal guys by normal i mean 5'10-5'11 190-200 pounds..they look like dwarfes against him...don't take away his pride because WWF(e) did billed him bigger than he really already was..if that even is possible..*lol*
213cm and 227-250kg at his biggest Ghost says on 16/Jun/09
Yep, DiBiase never looked taller to me than 6'3, in the later years NOTHING over 6'2.
I don't get these 6'4 estimations for him. Daniel_Sweden says on 16/Jun/09
JT says on 15/Jun/09
That’s a WWE magazine. Of course they are going to keep the Andre myth alive, as they still do to this day. The reference to his being 7'4" makes the entire list a joke, even if some of the numbers are close to reality. Somehow here (it may have been Chris) posted evidence that Andre’s actual shoe size was around 18-19, like Big Show’s. You can also find that pic of Andre’s cowboy boots and the ruler and tell that his actual shoe size was in that range.
Decent video of Sid Eudy and Vince McMahon. Click Here Editor Rob has them at 5 inches apart, which clearly cannot be the case. This shoots down any 6’4” or probably 6’3” claim for Ted DiBiase as well, unless someone can prove that Sid is wearing the largest lifts in the history of wrestling (or Hollywood).
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everybody is nagging all the time of andres cowboyboots.yes they give him at most 1.5 inch..but it's not like andre was feeling short and cried out for lifts...That was also a fashion once back in the time..Sid is also famous to wear big lifts and by that i mean in the ring..his wrestling boots looks like a 1 inch boots..He also had a fotwear advatange against hogan...the picture with sid,dibiase and McMahon shows that sid has the biggest heels of them probably 1 inch..sid was probably 6'7 at his peak and hogan 6'5.5.. Sid with 1 inch boots against hogans 0.5 which makes hogan 6'6 in boots and sid 6'8.. JT says on 15/Jun/09
At least in boxing, the hand size usually refers to the circumference around the knuckles when the hand is making a fist. There would be little difference in hand size between Andre and Big Show Click Here though Big Show has stubby fingers. Both would probably be at least 16 inches, if not more, considering that a few boxers have purportedly been measured at around 14 inches and their hands are nowhere near as thick as these guys'. Big Show says on 15/Jun/09
The 16" claim for Andre's hands refer to his fist circumference, not the length of his hands.
I have a Japanese biography of Andre which also has some 'measurements' of Andre.
Height: 7'3.75" (223cm)
Weight: 584 lbs (265 kg)
Neck: 33.5" (85cm)
Chest: 65" (165cm)
Biceps: 25" (63cm)
Fist: 13.75" (35cm)
Thighs: 38.5" (98cm)
Feet: 17.8" (45cm) Don't know which shoesize that would equal.
Here's a (supposedly) lifesize imprint of his hand from the same biography.
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The length from the tip of his middle finger up to his wrist measured 10.4".
Here's a tale of the tape between Big Show and Khali from last year's Backlash.
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This claims Big Show has a 15" Fist and Khali a 16" Fist. Most of those stats seem kayfabed to me. Khali isn't 420 lbs (or 7'3" for that matter). I doubt Big Show's waist is only 2 inches bigger than Khali's. And I doubt Khali's fists are as big as Andre's (or Big Show's).
On the other hand Khali's chest measurement seems a bit low to me. Andre's Japanese chest measurement of 65" sounds believable to me (the bio is from 1983).
According to a UK magazine from 1969 Andre's chest already measured 64", which is probably an exaggeration as Andre wasn't anywhere near the size he was in 1983. And I doubt it would measure 9 inches more than Khali's, who has an extensive bodybuilding background. Mamun says on 15/Jun/09
Well my friends it looks as if there are still a lot many good people here
who are not impressed by Andre's incredible superhuman measuremnets ! Well
I ask you this : Kindly post some pictures of anyone else( non-obese ) who
might even have a chest and hands that may even look close to Andre's .You
also have to remember that Andre was also the only WWE superstar or Sports
Athlete for that matter who never took Steriods , Performance enhancement
drugs or lifted any weights in the Gym .He was simply all pure super human
strength and stemina !Former World's Olympic powerlifting champion and WWF
wrestler once commented that " If Andre took some time off and trained for
powerliting even for a little time , Then all the world's record will come
trumbling down !
Regards
Supermun Chaz says on 15/Jun/09
Well for a start,Andre was not non-pathological,that means no disease,in fact Andre was tataly a pathologial giant,so he's chest even if it was 70''would not count in any case,and Hugo Gerard had a 62 chest Haystacks had at least a 85''chest but he was too fat to count,there was a guy DR Size Nessa who clamed to have a expanded chest of 75''but I think he was liveing in Hulk Hogan land full of crap,Glenn Ross,Zudrunas Zavicas and Domenic Feliu all have chests of about 65''.and Andre with 16'' hands well that says it all, they could not have been over 11''if that. JT says on 15/Jun/09
That’s a WWE magazine. Of course they are going to keep the Andre myth alive, as they still do to this day. The reference to his being 7'4" makes the entire list a joke, even if some of the numbers are close to reality. Somehow here (it may have been Chris) posted evidence that Andre’s actual shoe size was around 18-19, like Big Show’s. You can also find that pic of Andre’s cowboy boots and the ruler and tell that his actual shoe size was in that range.
Decent video of Sid Eudy and Vince McMahon. Click Here Editor Rob has them at 5 inches apart, which clearly cannot be the case. This shoots down any 6’4” or probably 6’3” claim for Ted DiBiase as well, unless someone can prove that Sid is wearing the largest lifts in the history of wrestling (or Hollywood).
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Click Here i-Clarke-93 says on 15/Jun/09
Andre The Giant Tale of the tape from WM 3
Height 7'5
Weight 525
Neck 24"
Chest 71"
Biceps 21"
Hands 16"
Wrist 11"
Forearms 17"
Thighs 36"
Calves 22"
Shoe Size 22" (Not mentioned in the tale of the tape before the match , but during the match Andre gives Hogan a big boot and Monsoon says "Ran right into that size 22")
These are all very similar measurements to the ones in the tale of the tape Mamun posted. i-Clarke-93 says on 15/Jun/09
Andre's shoe size was also described as 23 , 24 and 28 by the wwe in his matches. Vegas says on 15/Jun/09
16 inch hands lol, robert wadlows hands measured just 12.75 inches, the only measurement there that we know is correct for a fact is that wight wears size 18 shoes because when he played for wichita state they mentioned it a few times Ghost says on 15/Jun/09
Andre's other measurements like wrists, hands, head, chest and overall frame were probaby bigger than Show's because Andre's acromegaly was never treated whereas Show had the prosess stopped.
Had it not been treated, Show would have probably grown to be atleast as large as Andre in everyway and his facial features would have been equally distorted.
I do firmly believe that Big Show was/is slightly taller (about an inch) than Andre ever was. Halb says on 15/Jun/09
I think Hugo Gerard has a 72 inch chest but cannot remember fully.
Anyhoo, the 7'4 height and the shoe size (I think) are both bogus, which brings into question the validity of any of them. Daniel_Sweden says on 15/Jun/09
yes andre was more of a real giant than big show will ever be..Andre had much bigger hands, feets, head, jaws and cheeks..Andres chest was bigger and his weight..Big show had only bigger arms and fore arms.. i belive the both where 7 feet guys at their peak..no mater what i just can't see a peak andre any where below 7 feet... Daniel_Sweden says on 15/Jun/09
yes andre was more of a real giant than big show will ever be..Andre had much bigger hands, feets, head, jaws and cheeks..Andres chest was bigger and his weight..Big show had only bigger arms and fore arms.. i belive the both where 7 feet guys at their peak..no mater what i just can't see a peak andre any where below 7 feet... Mamun says on 14/Jun/09
Dear Friends ,
I have just took out my old WWE magazine of RAW dated January 2003 where
it features Big Show and the face of Andre behind him ! The title of the
mag was " OUT OF THE SHADOW " ! You can't beleive what you might read in
there regarding the " Tale of the Tape " ! Andre is by far much bigger
man than Show ever was . Here are the measurements as per the magazine: -
Paul white Andre
7 ' Height 7' 4"
5oo lbs Weight 550 lbs
23" Neck 24"
65" Chest 70"
22" Biceps 20"
10" Wrist 11"
13 1/4" Hands 16"
18" Forearms 17"
34" Thighs 36"
22" Calves 22"
18 (6E) Shoe size 22"
Well my friends if you have that copy It's all there . I would like to
point out that Andre is the only human ( Non - Pathologically which means
excluding super- obese people like YokoZuna , Giant haystalks , Robert Earl
Huges , etc ) in recorded history to have a chest measurement of 70 " ! No
ohter man , not even in the Body Building and Power lifting world could
claim to have such a large chest measurement without being super obese .
Andre , even when he weighed 484 pounds didn't look obese at all ! He
looked more like a 6' tall man who just weighs 240 pounds !
Regards
Supermun dicksock says on 14/Jun/09
says on 14/Jun/09
clearly Big Show and Andre have been obese, even at 7 feet tall, nobody should weigh 500 lbs. or even come close to that. 400 lbs. is already obese at 7ft.
7'1" 380-400 lb. Khali looks borderline obese already despite being only slightly taller and considerably lighter than Big Show and Andre
Andre was not obese at 400lbs or even 425lbs. He is not like other 7' tall people. He had acromegaly which meant his bones and his body kept growing. In the early and mid 70's he was 380lbs to 425lbs and he didn't look fat at all. He had defintion. He had no stomach at all. When he moved, I never saw any fat jiggeling or anything. Even when Andre reached 480lbs or over 500lbs he didn't appear nearly as fat as most people would at that weight. A lot of it was natural. You need to learn the difference between natural weight and fat. Just because someone weighs more than they should according to a height/weight chart doesn't mean they're obese. Those systems don't take into consideration people with acromegaly who have freakishly large frames or people with huge frames in general. For example, If you have two people who are both 6' tall but one of them has wrists which measure 7" and the other has wrists which measure 9". The person with 9" wrists will naturally weigh significantly more due to his natural bone structure. Chaz says on 14/Jun/09
The diffrance is Andre and Big Show are or were good Wrestlers obese or not,khali on the other hand is crap,he makes Giant Gonzalas look like Abdula the Butcher. says on 14/Jun/09
clearly Big Show and Andre have been obese, even at 7 feet tall, nobody should weigh 500 lbs. or even come close to that. 400 lbs. is already obese at 7ft.
7'1" 380-400 lb. Khali looks borderline obese already despite being only slightly taller and considerably lighter than Big Show and Andre Halb says on 13/Jun/09
I would say Studd has no more than 1 inch over Fralic. Danimal says on 12/Jun/09
The picture could very well have been taken in 1983. We don't really know when production started for Conan the Destroyer. All we is that it was RELEASED in 1984. For all we know, the pic could have been taken in 1982. dicksock says on 12/Jun/09
Hulkster says on 12/Jun/09
i don't care about the picture with arnold,andre and wilt...the picture was taken 1987 and by that time andre already had lost 1 or 1 1/2 inch..Andres peak was 60's to 1976...after that he had some surgeries, gained weight and start to lose height..the other thing is that Wilts height is debated..dave meltzer does a photograhic analysis and concludes that andre the giant is 6'11.5" based on an assumed height of 7'0.5" for wilt, which is incorrect, as the guiness book measured him at 7'1.16" in 1978. if wilt was 7'1.16 1987 when the picture was taken then andre was nothing less than 6'11.5..remember andre was not at his peak 1987 he had already lost 1 or 1 1/2 inch..so Andre was 7 feet tall barefoot out of the beed at his peak..
Bill Walton has gone on record to say he was 6'11". So Wilt being 2 inches taller would make him 7'1".
Andre the Giant 7 feet (213cm)
The pic isn't from 1987, its from 1984. Chaz says on 12/Jun/09
Hulkster' in the the 1960s,we know he was only 6'10'',then in 1976 we know next to a 4'11''man he was still only 6'10''then in 1980 he was only 2''taller at most to a 6'8''ish Giant Haystacks who by the way was billed at 7'' for the bout"I wonder why"then you clame he had all ready lost height by 1987,so how long was he over 7 foot then and when?you are in the reamls of fantasy,you are saying he grow after 1980 to over 7''then back down to about 6'10.75''by 1987,ive never heard so much rubish in my life,the man was 210cm no more no less.and for most of the time he was no more than 440lbs 200kg. Hulkster says on 12/Jun/09
i don't care about the picture with arnold,andre and wilt...the picture was taken 1987 and by that time andre already had lost 1 or 1 1/2 inch..Andres peak was 60's to 1976...after that he had some surgeries, gained weight and start to lose height..the other thing is that Wilts height is debated..dave meltzer does a photograhic analysis and concludes that andre the giant is 6'11.5" based on an assumed height of 7'0.5" for wilt, which is incorrect, as the guiness book measured him at 7'1.16" in 1978. if wilt was 7'1.16 1987 when the picture was taken then andre was nothing less than 6'11.5..remember andre was not at his peak 1987 he had already lost 1 or 1 1/2 inch..so Andre was 7 feet tall barefoot out of the beed at his peak..
Bill Walton has gone on record to say he was 6'11". So Wilt being 2 inches taller would make him 7'1".
Andre the Giant 7 feet (213cm) Danimal says on 12/Jun/09
Richard says on 12/Jun/09
general93 ... Studd was basically the same height as 6'5 Bill Fralic, maybe had him by half an inch so I'll be generous and give Studd 6'6. Now Studd was taller than Hogan so my original assumption of a 6'5 peak for Hogan still stands.
THe photos with Andre and Wilt are controversial for a number of reasons, Andre's footwear is one... the other is the fact that Andre is closer to the camera at an angle so drawing lines measuring the figures won't suffice and he's got heavy footwear. Now I'm a fan of Andre just like the rest of you I'm not trying to put him down but let's be realistic... he's not the same height as Wilt in those pics like many claim. There are a couple of inches between them...
Watch the video and not the picture. He has close to 2" on Fralic in the video and Studd was barely taller than Hogan from recent evidence. Halb says on 12/Jun/09
"i dont care about the wilt pic theres practically no differene my cousin who stands 6'0.5" and weighs 194lbs always looks around the same as me in pics im 6'2" 267lbs."
'Always'?...:D Does he always wear boots and you flip flops?:D Richard says on 12/Jun/09
general93 ... Studd was basically the same height as 6'5 Bill Fralic, maybe had him by half an inch so I'll be generous and give Studd 6'6. Now Studd was taller than Hogan so my original assumption of a 6'5 peak for Hogan still stands.
THe photos with Andre and Wilt are controversial for a number of reasons, Andre's footwear is one... the other is the fact that Andre is closer to the camera at an angle so drawing lines measuring the figures won't suffice and he's got heavy footwear. Now I'm a fan of Andre just like the rest of you I'm not trying to put him down but let's be realistic... he's not the same height as Wilt in those pics like many claim. There are a couple of inches between them... general93 says on 12/Jun/09
hogan peak was 6'6" theres enough evidence 1987 andre had around 5" on hogan putting him around 6'11" mark however anyone who thinks he was the same height even 5years earlier is wrong.theres no doubt andre was over 7ft tall hayday.john studd was billed 6'10" so he was probably 6'7 or 8" andre had him by about 4" at wm5 1989.so again 6'11" is about right then.then about 1991 to death was 6'10".i dont care about the wilt pic theres practically no differene my cousin who stands 6'0.5" and weighs 194lbs always looks around the same as me in pics im 6'2" 267lbs. Halb says on 12/Jun/09
Show was weighed at 507 on an episode of RAW when he faced Akebono. Sam says on 11/Jun/09
I actually stand taller than you guys, I happen to be 7 ft. 4 in. tall. So you're not the tallest ones here. It is a pain to find clothes tailor made for me. I go to big and tall stores, hard to find in Rochester, Minnesota. The Seth says on 11/Jun/09
Andre the Giant and Big Show both drank beer, Khali on the other hand drank protein shakes. Khali would beat Andre the Giant if he were still alive, so Big Show will have to do.
I don't believe Big Show was ever over 500 lbs. or even 500 in the first place. I give Big Show 450-460 max. Frank says on 11/Jun/09
Sorry it was NOT my Magazine :o) kinggollum says on 11/Jun/09
Me says on 10/Jun/09
I remember what country it was taken in Frank. It was taken in JTenia!!!
lmao sidewalk says on 11/Jun/09
Are you saying it was called "My Magazine"? The name would be most helpful but I also wanted to know what country it came from. Knowing what country the magazine came from does narrow the possibilities a lot actually. Frank says on 11/Jun/09
It was my Magazine i guy i knew had along time ago showed me and i was surprized Andre was shorter than Wilt . Yes i use to Believe he was 7ft 4 @ that time Again Andre was Clearly Shorter but i would say by about 2 inches
I did not see the foor wear but they were all in Street clothes Me says on 10/Jun/09
I remember what country it was taken in Frank. It was taken in JTenia!!! sidewalk says on 10/Jun/09
Frank do you remember what country the mag with the Wilt, Andre, Arnold pic was from? Was it a Japanese wrestling mag? If you have any clues I'll try and look for it, not saying I could find it. Of course, everyone here would also look for it. Rantsrob says on 10/Jun/09
Peak andre in cowboy boots with 6'11'' max. Peak andre barefoot 6'10''. Halb says on 10/Jun/09
It would be cool if the picture Frank talks aboot could be found. Frank says on 10/Jun/09
Yes Marble im 100 % sure it was none of the pictures posted on here dont get me wrong Andre did not look short but Wilt was Clearly Taller Chaz says on 9/Jun/09
your like a lode of sycophantic falls,you think just because Andre was not at least 7'' he was not a real giant,since when has 6'10.75''and 500lbs not been a giant,I loved Andre he and Giant Haystacks and Bill Kazmaier are my Idols If i realy belived he was 7' I would be the first to say it ,and i think a lot of what JT says is not right mostly is ring pic comparsons are crap,camara up or down allways makes the shorter man taller,but in the case with Shoemaker,this is a smoking gun,there is no dout he could not be any taller then 1'11''in shoes than a 100% 4'11''man,he cannot have been any taller peak than the 210cm that he was billed in the Dale Martin days in the UK. Boss says on 9/Jun/09
dicksock says on 9/Jun/09
In the shoemaker pic, shoemaker is in front of Andre. With all of the bogus talk of Andre being in front of Wilt in the black and white photo, I find it odd that nobody mentioned the fact that if Andre was lined up with shoemaker, he'd come out taller. Even in the Wilt/Andre pic where Andre is in blue pants, he is only a few inches in front of Wilt and he comes out taller once you take away the wig. And Wilt's official height was 7'1 1/16". The shoemaker comparison pic would never be taken seriously in a court. The black and white Andre/Wilt one would though. They are perfectly lined up and Andre looks taller with a footware adv. But, like I said, Wilt has a posture adv. not so much with his head, but with his back. Andre is almost leaning forward with his head slightly tilted. Any way you slice it, no matter what your biases are, there is no way Andre the Giant was under 6'11.5".
Exactly , if this was Big Show in the very same pic they would be saying he was 7' with Wilt 7'1 1/16 Wilt. Anyway you look at it Andre looks much closer to 7' than he does 6'10 with Wilt and Arnold unless your opinion is biased. Jt is saying Andre gains a half inch from the angle and 1.25 from footware so that's 1.75 inches and what about Wilt's wig. 1.75 inches minus 7'1 1/16 = 6'11.25 or so and even 2 inches Andre would still be 6'11 1/16 in 1984 which was beyond his peak height. In reality the difference is at max 1.5 inches for Andre and possibly only the one inch advantage that Meltzer estimated by observing the pic but wrongfully or unknowningly downgraded Wilt's height to 7'0.5 which has been proven not to be the case since Wilt stated in 1986 he was still 7'1 1/16 putting Meltzer's own estimation at 7'0 1/16 for Andre. Wilt has much better posture than Andre which has to taken into account for a peak Andre with much better posture. sidewalk says on 9/Jun/09
There is a difference between putting your chin down as Wilt is doing and putting your head down which Andre is doing. The way Andre is looking down he would lose more height than Wilt who is only putting his chin down. Understand the difference if not practice putting your head down in different ways and you'll know what I mean. dicksock says on 9/Jun/09
In the shoemaker pic, shoemaker is in front of Andre. With all of the bogus talk of Andre being in front of Wilt in the black and white photo, I find it odd that nobody mentioned the fact that if Andre was lined up with shoemaker, he'd come out taller. Even in the Wilt/Andre pic where Andre is in blue pants, he is only a few inches in front of Wilt and he comes out taller once you take away the wig. And Wilt's official height was 7'1 1/16". The shoemaker comparison pic would never be taken seriously in a court. The black and white Andre/Wilt one would though. They are perfectly lined up and Andre looks taller with a footware adv. But, like I said, Wilt has a posture adv. not so much with his head, but with his back. Andre is almost leaning forward with his head slightly tilted. Any way you slice it, no matter what your biases are, there is no way Andre the Giant was under 6'11.5". Marble says on 9/Jun/09
uhm there have been 3 pictures posted of wilt and andre are you sure it was a new one ? Frank says on 9/Jun/09
Again i seen a picture in a Magazine a guy i knew had of Andre, Wilt and Arnold in street clothes NOT THE SAME PHOTOS POSTED ON HERE Wilt was Clearly Taller by atleast 2 inches minimum... Andre was alot taller than Wepner when they were in the ring together by atleast 5 inches Boss says on 9/Jun/09
Rick says on 8/Jun/09
The only problem with your theory is that we have Andre standing next to in the same picture with 7'1 1/16 Wilt which he was measured at 2 times and said he never lost any height in 1986 so what more proof do you need JUDGE RICK{LOL} and 6'1.5 Arnold and you want to use comparison photos from the one the most biased on this site. Also Andre has his head titled way down to look at Wepnar in cowboy boots and Andre could easily be 5 inches taller in JT's pic if he assumed Wepanar's posture and Andre looks much taller than Wepnar in the backstage promo photo and in the match itself Andre dwarfs Wepnar. Also Andre gained alot of his height from his body trunk and his head rather than his legs like most tall men as you can clearly see with Wilt. Wilt had much better posture than Andre. If Andre had the same posture as Wilt Andre would come out taller because he actually does look slightly taller in the B/W pic but Andre does have a footware advantage. Wilt is 7'1 1/16 in the photo than Andre is no lower than 6'11.5 and that's giving Wilt almost 2 inches which is a little too much. I beleive the difference with all factors in to be 1 - 1.5 inches max. JT says on 9/Jun/09
The camera angle is slightly to Andre’s side in the photo with Wilt and Arnold. Even Editor Rob pointed this out awhile ago. However, that probably gives Andre only a little extra perceived height (maybe 1/2" or so). However, people keep forgetting that Wilt has a wider stance. Further, Andre has his head raised in the B&W photo (and gains considerable height compared to the color photo) whereas Wilt keeps his head down in both pics.
Click Here Wilt would gain some height too if he raised his head - you can't have it both ways.
Wilt is standing at least one foot behind Andre here Click Here and they are the same height, despite Andre having no less than a 1.25” footwear advantage (and probably up to 1.5”).
There’s also this pic of a peak Andre and Wepner from 1976 that made a few here cry when it was first posted. Click Here The poster (Chris) said 6’5” Wepner had cowboy boots on (for Andre’s sake, he better), so the footwear advantage for him is probably 1.5”. If Wepner is ~ 6’7” in those boots, there is no way Andre is going to come out more than 5 inches taller than him to get Andre to 7 feet barefoot. kinggollum says on 9/Jun/09
kinggollum says on 8/Jun/09
Rick has been owning most people on here that believe an under 7 foot Andre.
Sorry I meant Boss, man I'm getting dumb in my old age, lol! Rick says on 8/Jun/09
Boss and Dicksock:
Let's pretend for a moment that both of you are on a jury and evidence is being presented by forensic specialists, with expertise in the area of photography, regarding how tall Andre the Giant may have been. Not whether he was 7' tall or not, but just how tall period. And let's assume, for the sake or argument, that you have no preconceived ideas or opinions of Andre's height.
The defense offers up for evidence the Wilt/Andre photo, but through cross examination it's revealed that nobody is quite sure how tall Wilt or Arnold really are. Also the prosecution points out other discrepancies such as the different position of both subjects, the altered perspective, etc.
Next up is the prosecution's expert and he enters into evidence the Andre/Shoemaker photo with Shoemaker's height know to an almost 100% certainty, both subjects standing perfectly straight facing the camera, one directly in front of the other, and hardly any skewed perspective of either person.
Using this scenario, which side are you most likely to feel presented the better evidence regarding how tall Andre may have been? Just curious. Vegas says on 8/Jun/09
dicksock says on 8/Jun/09
Does Andre really only look 9" taller than Arnold to anyone? Andre's not closer to the camera. Arnolds hands are evenly spread out and they are in front of BOTH men. Also, line up their feet on their legs that are furthest from the camera. They are lined up. Sorry, but the truth hurts. This picture still proves what it always has. That Andre the Giant was at least 7' tall and after futher examination may have been closer to 7'1".
question how much taller did andre look to you on video in 1980 compared to vince, 4 years prior to that arnold/wilt photo?? Boss says on 8/Jun/09
Kelso says on 8/Jun/09
The people on here that are estimating Andre at 7ft. is that with footware or barefoot?
7' peak barefoot and 6'10 at the end and after a 250 pound adult weight gain and a disease that wreaked havoc on his giant body which he chose not to have treated as well as 3 sugeries and poor posture from his condition and size. Andre was measured at 6'10 when he died in France and weighed 555 pounds but was a couple inches taller in his youth as you can clearly see from photos and videos and interviews etc. Kelso says on 8/Jun/09
The people on here that are estimating Andre at 7ft. is that with footware or barefoot? Boss says on 8/Jun/09
dicksock says on 8/Jun/09
Boss says on 8/Jun/09
Chaz says on 8/Jun/09
Boss if you think Andre is side by side with Wilt,then there is no point in listning to anything you have to say,Andre is at least a foot nera the camara,and side on,for ever 6'' nera the camara you have to take 1'off is height,unlike the pic with the jockey where Andre is right up he's back,and there is no dout he is 4'11'',Andre was 210cm peak no more no less.
Andre wasn't closer to the camera in any of the pics. And in the black and white one, he looks taller than Wilt considering his posture was much worse. If he would have stood up Khali style, he'd look taller. To me, the difference in posture would pretty much even out the cowboy boot factor. You also don't really know what kind of heel Wilt has. Also his wig adds one whole hell of a lot. The fact is in the black and white photo especially, they are perfectly lined up and they are approximently the same height. Again, you have a 7'1" Wilt and a 7'0.5" Andre at the shortest. Does Andre really only look 9" taller than Arnold to anyone? Andre's not closer to the camera. Arnolds hands are evenly spread out and they are in front of BOTH men. Also, line up their feet on their legs that are furthest from the camera. They are lined up. Sorry, but the truth hurts. This picture still proves what it always has. That Andre the Giant was at least 7' tall and after futher examination may have been closer to 7'1".
Exactly , they were side by side in three different pics and camera angles aren't playing much if any of a factor. Wilt was 7'1 1/16 in the pic putting Andre at around 7' and Wilt does have much better posture in all the pics. andre was getting 1.8 inches from boots and Wilt is getting at least .8 or more between boots and a huge wig. Giving Andre a 1 inch advantage over 7'1 1/16 Wilt putting Andre at 7'0 1/16 in 1984 with Wilt. Andre looks 7' with 5'10 Bobby Hull , 6'6 Buddy Baker , 6'1 Bob Backlund , 6'1.5 Arnold and of course 7'1 1/16 Wilt and these are some people of actual known height not billed heights or some altered comparison photos. dicksock says on 8/Jun/09
Boss says on 8/Jun/09
Chaz says on 8/Jun/09
Boss if you think Andre is side by side with Wilt,then there is no point in listning to anything you have to say,Andre is at least a foot nera the camara,and side on,for ever 6'' nera the camara you have to take 1'off is height,unlike the pic with the jockey where Andre is right up he's back,and there is no dout he is 4'11'',Andre was 210cm peak no more no less.
Andre wasn't closer to the camera in any of the pics. And in the black and white one, he looks taller than Wilt considering his posture was much worse. If he would have stood up Khali style, he'd look taller. To me, the difference in posture would pretty much even out the cowboy boot factor. You also don't really know what kind of heel Wilt has. Also his wig adds one whole hell of a lot. The fact is in the black and white photo especially, they are perfectly lined up and they are approximently the same height. Again, you have a 7'1" Wilt and a 7'0.5" Andre at the shortest. Does Andre really only look 9" taller than Arnold to anyone? Andre's not closer to the camera. Arnolds hands are evenly spread out and they are in front of BOTH men. Also, line up their feet on their legs that are furthest from the camera. They are lined up. Sorry, but the truth hurts. This picture still proves what it always has. That Andre the Giant was at least 7' tall and after futher examination may have been closer to 7'1". Boss says on 8/Jun/09
Andre was being billed at 7' as I have proven long before he ever came to North America. The 2.14 billing is from a book on the history of wrestling in France. Boss says on 8/Jun/09
Vegas says on 8/Jun/09
Boss says on 4/Jun/09
They are just billings. They could have been going by earlier billings for Andre. Andre was also billed at 7 ft at age 19 and 2.14m as Jean Ferre from France around the same time as I have already shown
i seriously doubt that poster is from 1965 like you claim, for a start it lists andre at 174kg or 377lb (approx the same weight he was billed as when he started in canada in the early 70s), i would estimate that billing to have taken place after his stint in japan hence the 7ft billing
here is a poster from 1969, listing him at 2m 10cm or 6'10.5 and 145kg or 319lb Click Here
The poster is from France and is from late 60's. Vegas says on 8/Jun/09
Boss says on 4/Jun/09
They are just billings. They could have been going by earlier billings for Andre. Andre was also billed at 7 ft at age 19 and 2.14m as Jean Ferre from France around the same time as I have already shown
i seriously doubt that poster is from 1965 like you claim, for a start it lists andre at 174kg or 377lb (approx the same weight he was billed as when he started in canada in the early 70s), i would estimate that billing to have taken place after his stint in japan hence the 7ft billing
here is a poster from 1969, listing him at 2m 10cm or 6'10.5 and 145kg or 319lb Click Here Boss says on 8/Jun/09
Chaz says on 8/Jun/09
Boss if you think Andre is side by side with Wilt,then there is no point in listning to anything you have to say,Andre is at least a foot nera the camara,and side on,for ever 6'' nera the camara you have to take 1'off is height,unlike the pic with the jockey where Andre is right up he's back,and there is no dout he is 4'11'',Andre was 210cm peak no more no less.
There is no point of listening of anything you have to say since you haven't provided nothing but your biased opinion.Andre is almost as tall as Wilt no matter what you say and yes I took into consideration Andre was slightly closer to the camera. Andre matches up to 7'1 1/16 Wilt anyway you look at the pics. Everything I have to say I back up and I have provided much new life to Andre's page. I provide proof of my claims and not just by using comparisons that are altered to the point JT is trying to prove and that's why he doesn't use any pics where he thinks Andre looks too tall. Why would you even comment with nothing to back your claims becasuse you sound like you don't know anything about Andre. kinggollum says on 8/Jun/09
Rick has been owning most people on here that believe an under 7 foot Andre. Norway says on 8/Jun/09
give him 7 feet he deservs it and was nothing under 7 feet at his prime...just too bad that WWF(E) billed him as 7'4 and 7'5 the should billed him as 7'2 because he was 7'0...After comparing him to Hogan in 1979, with Wilt, with Bret Hart who was at least 6'0 and is listed by that, andre simply towered over him..wrestlers like Warrior (6'1.5), Jim Duggan (6'2.5) Ted Dibiase (6'3) Vincent (5'11) Roddy Piper (6'0.5) Ric Flair (6'0) Bret Hart (6'0) where all dwarfed by Andre in 1985-1988 and by that time andre had probably lost allready one inch..but he seemed a whole foot taller than them anyway...
Andre the Giant 7'0 (213cm) Chaz says on 8/Jun/09
Boss if you think Andre is side by side with Wilt,then there is no point in listning to anything you have to say,Andre is at least a foot nera the camara,and side on,for ever 6'' nera the camara you have to take 1'off is height,unlike the pic with the jockey where Andre is right up he's back,and there is no dout he is 4'11'',Andre was 210cm peak no more no less. aarod says on 8/Jun/09
OMG people.. check out this video of andre being interviewed by mean gene, its old.. andre had the 1.8" heel cowboy boots on.. andre leans in it most of the time, but at some point, he straigtens up and My god, hes definately a legit 7 feet tall back then. also, check out mean egen with andre's pointer finger ring, he fits 3 fingers inside andre's ring!
Click Here aarod says on 8/Jun/09
OMG people.. check out this video of andre being interviewed by mean gene, its old.. andre had the 1.8" heel cowboy boots on.. andre leans in it most of the time, but at some point, he straigtens up and My god, hes definately a legit 7 feet tall back then. also, check out mean egen with andre's pointer finger ring, he fits 3 fingers inside andre's ring!
Click Here aarod says on 8/Jun/09
OMG people.. check out this video of andre being interviewed by mean gene, its old.. andre had the 1.8" heel cowboy boots on.. andre leans in it most of the time, but at some point, he straigtens up and My god, hes definately a legit 7 feet tall back then. also, check out mean egen with andre's pointer finger ring, he fits 3 fingers inside andre's ring!
Click Here aarod says on 8/Jun/09
i met andre the giant and richard keil both in the same year, when i was 8(1982)
they were both incredible and at age 8, appeared to be the same height to me, standing next to my dad. Andre had a considerably bigger head(taller head by about 2 inches) than Keil, and bigger limbs and hands overall. my dad is 6'3.5" now, but was 6'4.25" back then, and he came up to andre's mouth. keil's head wasnt as long as andre's, and my father came up to between richard's chin and his mouth. Rick says on 7/Jun/09
Boss says on 7/Jun/09
Andre comes out in the 7' ballpark no matter what way you look at it in 1984.
Well, I looked at it up close from about a foot away around that time and I would have to disagree. Boss says on 7/Jun/09
You can use all the comparison photos you want but we have Andre standing side by side with 7'1 1/16 Wilt and 6'1.5 Arnold in three different full body photos in 1984 past Andre's peak height. Andre comes out in the 7' ballpark no matter what way you look at it in 1984. These are not in ring bad camera angled photos or video's. This is a direct comparison in which with 7'1 1/16 Wilt Andre looks at very minimal with everthing accounted for 6'11.5 boots , wig , camera angle there is no way Wilt is anymore than 2 inches taller than Andre which would put Andre at 6'11 1/16 in 1984 past his peak height. Wilt is more than likley 1 to 1.5 taller with everthing accounted for putting Andre at between 6'11.5 to 7'0 1/16 with Wilt and Arnold. Wilt never lost any height by this point as he stated in 1986. Virtually they are the same height but by the time you factor everthing in Wilt may have 1 to 1.5 inches on a post 1st surgery and headed for his second surgery Andre who was overweight and past his peak by this point. Also Wilt has much better posture than Andre. Eight Wonder of the World says on 7/Jun/09
if you watch the match in Japan from 1982 on youtube: Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant - NJPW, 9/12/1982 (part 2) you can see that the height difference is bigger then it was at Wrestlemania III..There is no footwear advantage for neither one of them and remember Hogan at his peak was a very strong 6'5.5 or a weak 6'6 barefoot back then, But Andre simply towers over him...in that match Andre looks to be in 7 foot range, somewhere between 6'11.5 - 7'0.5...
Andre the Giant was at his peak nothing else under 7 feet (213cm) that man was huge and awesome.. Anonymous says on 6/Jun/09
I happen to be 7 ft. 4 in. tall. So you're not the tallest ones here. It is a pain to find clothes tailor made for me. I go to big and tall stores, hard to find in Rochester, Minnesota. ---------Sam Hollis Rika says on 6/Jun/09
6'10 during his bad back era.
7'0 when he first started wrestling.
Why?...well, he did suffer a bad back before wrestlemania 3. When people started saying he was really 6'10. With that boxing match he had a head over the 6'5 boxer.
Remember, his head is bigger than normal heads. Rick says on 5/Jun/09
Mikew says on 4/Jun/09
Gotta love Rick's "I've got to admit" comment, which would otherwise imply that he was previously calling for a 7 feet plus Andre, only to be now dissuaded by the Andre/Kiel pic posted by fellow Andre hater JT. Almost as funny as his comment on June 1, where he purports to be "just playing devil's advocate," before, once again, proceeding to downgrade Andre and cast doubt as to the honesty of Andre's trainer.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with having the point of view that Andre was under 7 feet, though I and many others think he was; just that there is no point in pretending to be casually and objectively commenting on evidence as if you are some sort of neutral observer, accompanied by unverified tales of meetings and sightings. Rick,in short, we all know your agenda by now, so you may as well dispense with the formality of pretending to be only now downgrading Andre after seeing the pic with Kiel. You are not fooling anyone.
Yikes! Sounds like you've been hitting the bottle again. Perhaps you should stay away from a computer keyboard when that happens. Rick says on 5/Jun/09
It makes no sense that you'd give more weight to a comparison photo of Andre/Kiel than a photo of Andre next to a guy over 7'1" (Wilt) where they are standing practically side by side in two different pictures with similar posture. The comparison photo makes no sense anyway because we know by the Wilt picture that Andre in cowboy boots actually comes out a little taller than a 7'1" guy. The Andre/Kiel picture makes Andre look 6'8" barefoot.
Actually it makes perfect sense to me. I'm giving more weight to the Kiel/Andre photo because of the perspectives, distances, angles, and known heights of certain individuals in the pictures. But, as I've said before, I still wouldn't label it definitive.
As for the Andre/Wilt comparison, the picture is misleading if for no other reason than my own perspective of having stood a foot away from Andre around the same time and observing that he was several inches away from the 7' mark. You're saying Andre was almost as tall as Silo Sam in that pic, and having stood next to Sam about a year later, that just wasn't the case...it was Sam who measured about equal with Wilt. Chaz says on 5/Jun/09
Boss do you know any thing about takeing photos Andre is over a foot nera the camara and side on, and for ever 6''the person is from the other person you have to take off 1'' of height from the person nera the camara Ie Andre,Forget all this crap about this that or someone said this he was this or that,there is a pic of him with a 100% 4'11'' jockey and it is easy to workout he is at most 1'11''taller this is not a ring pic or next someone like hogan who could have been in lefts of 6'4''or 6'7''or god knows what, now at last we have a peak pic of Andre right in front bolt upright no more than 1''between them with the camara at the right height from someone we know was 4'11''both in shoes and im not going even say that you can bet your life Andres shoes that big would have a 2'' heal,and befor anyone says it jocky's boots are not like cowboy boots with 3'' heals thay are 1''at most making him 5''dead as JT's pic shows and Andre without hair in shoes is bearly 6'11''end of story. Kelso says on 5/Jun/09
Chaz I agree 100% Boss says on 5/Jun/09
Chaz says on 5/Jun/09
Hogan has never been 6'6''he was at best 6'5''and like the weights Studd was useing in the vid he's a total fake 340lbs 6'7''24'' arms lol yer in he's dreams maybe and Andre was nowhere near Kiel's height,he was shoter than wilt standing nera to the camara,and he was only 7'1/2''at the time,
Here is Wilt Chamberlain himself stating in 1986 that he never lost any height. Wilt was measured 2 times both at 7'1 1/16. The whole 7'0.5 has been proven wrong and the whole paragraph from the book it came from was false stating Wilt wasn't measured since high school when there is a picture of Wilt being measurwed at 7'1 1/16 by two teammates and a doctore who stated he had to construct special equipment to measure Wilt because most people thought Wilt was around 7'3 and just downgraded his height becasuse in basketball being taller means you need less skill considering you can just dunk all day and Wilt wanted to be known for his skill noy his height. Click Here
Andre & Wilt are basically the same height and yes Andre has the footware advantage but anyway you look at it Andre comes out 7' or 6'11.5 depending on how much Wilt is getting from his boots and wig and we know Andre is getting 1.8 inches from his boots and Wilt was 7'1 1/16 in 1986 so he would have to be this height in 1984. Click Here
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This one is done with basic artistic linear not just a set of arbitrary lines.
Click Here Chaz says on 5/Jun/09
Hogan has never been 6'6''he was at best 6'5''and like the weights Studd was useing in the vid he's a total fake 340lbs 6'7''24'' arms lol yer in he's dreams maybe and Andre was nowhere near Kiel's height,he was shoter than wilt standing nera to the camara,and he was only 7'1/2''at the time, me says on 5/Jun/09
Also in the Van Dyke Comparison Andre has flat wrestling boots and Kiel has on Heeled shoes. IMO they are the same height. me says on 5/Jun/09
There are other comparisons with richard Kiel/Dick Van Dyke & Andre/Backlund which show Andre to be the same height as Kiel. Why not post that pic, JT????? T says on 5/Jun/09
Got it. Very well stated. Andre the 6'10-11" giant just doesn't quite cut it like Andre the 7' giant. Problem is, I have the nagging suspicion that it's quite possible certain other individuals like Frenchy Bernard think the same as you do.
thank you. about Frenchy Bernard, that may be true and it may be false but we will probably never know. So for now we have to go by pics of Andre and they are all over the place as far as height differences. but if hogan was really 6'6 at wrestlemania than there is no doubt andre is 7 foot.
hey JT, Big john studd looks f'n huge in that vid. ill say mcmahon was 6'1 there and studd was at least 6'7! maybe 6'8. he might of been wearing lifts, idk, but by his stature I would never call him a normal 6'5-6'6 guy. I went into a prograsm called gimp and measured where mcmahon was and he looks like his is right at the bottom of his nose. we will say his forehead is 4 inches and his nose is 3. that makes him 6'8. but like I said im not sure about footwear. but that would make nash 7 foot in those pics and show about 7'1. I would give them all that height with boots on. Chaz says on 5/Jun/09
The truth is Andre is standing bolt upright peak with a 100% 4'11''guy and in shoes he is 1'11''taller thay him in shoes,End of story,Andre was 210cm 6'10.75''and arownd 440-500lbs. No Mills Darden but one of biggist men of all time. Mikew says on 4/Jun/09
Rick says on 3/Jun/09
Seeing it for the first time, I’ve got to admit that the Andre/Kiel comparison is pretty impressive with its similar camera perspectives, poses, and subjects basically lining up to their known heights when scaled. Probably still not definitive proof for purposes of this board, but much more persuasive I feel then most other comparison pics, Frenchy Bernard testimonials, and the "let's give Andre 7' out of respect" pleas.
Gotta love Rick's "I've got to admit" comment, which would otherwise imply that he was previously calling for a 7 feet plus Andre, only to be now dissuaded by the Andre/Kiel pic posted by fellow Andre hater JT. Almost as funny as his comment on June 1, where he purports to be "just playing devil's advocate," before, once again, proceeding to downgrade Andre and cast doubt as to the honesty of Andre's trainer.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with having the point of view that Andre was under 7 feet, though I and many others think he was; just that there is no point in pretending to be casually and objectively commenting on evidence as if you are some sort of neutral observer, accompanied by unverified tales of meetings and sightings. Rick,in short, we all know your agenda by now, so you may as well dispense with the formality of pretending to be only now downgrading Andre after seeing the pic with Kiel. You are not fooling anyone. LV says on 4/Jun/09
It makes no sense that you'd give more weight to a comparison photo of Andre/Kiel than a photo of Andre next to a guy over 7'1" (Wilt) where they are standing practically side by side in two different pictures with similar posture. The comparison photo makes no sense anyway because we know by the Wilt picture that Andre in cowboy boots actually comes out a little taller than a 7'1" guy. The Andre/Kiel picture makes Andre look 6'8" barefoot. Rick says on 4/Jun/09
dicksock says on 4/Jun/09
If you think one comparison pic is better evidence than Frenchy's statement then you are so biased and crazy. Frenchy was his best friend and knew Andre more than anyone. He said 7'0.5". Why would he say that? If Big John Studd's best friend came out and said he was really 6'6.5", would you agrue?
Crazy...perhaps. Biased...no. However, I do feel that the Keil/Andre comparison pic represents what I observed standing next to each of these individuals.
It all comes down to basic facts from my perspective...I stood next to Andre around the same time the pics with Wilt were taken and Andre was not the height you and others are assuming he was...I don't care what those pics appear to show. He was around 6'10" and I have several other individuals whose judgment I trust who will agree. I have no bias and no agenda.
And yes, if Studd's best friend came forward and said he was 6'6.5", I would agree because that's just about how tall he appeared standing next to him. That's not the case with Andre...and forgive me if I take my word over Frenchy's. Rick says on 4/Jun/09
dicksock says on 4/Jun/09 If you think one comparison pic is better evidence than Frenchy's statement then you are so biased and crazy. Frenchy was his best friend and knew Andre more than anyone. He said 7'0.5". Why would he say that? If Big John Studd's best friend came out and said he was really 6'6.5", would you agrue? |