How tall is Ming Yao

Ming Yao's Height

7ft 5 ½ (227.3 cm)

Chinese Basketball player. Shawn Bradley, another giant of the court has been quoted as saying: "He's not as tall as me. If he's 7-6, I'm 7-8". Yao has stated "I'm 7-6".


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Average Guess (180 Votes)
7ft 6.14in (229cm)
Canson said on 20/Oct/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 19/Oct/20
Canson said on 18/Oct/20
I don’t get how Yao “downplays his height” and this is anecdotal in China yet Hogan “can claim what he wants” for his height. Interesting how things work on this site.

Response: Yao is famous for downplaying his height, but Hogan, like many pro-wrestlers, tend to exaggerate his height by as much as he can get away with. For example, Andre the Giant claiming 7-4 with a straight face though he is not even 7 feet. Simple enough for you to understand?

No because you didn’t provide any proof about Yao downplaying his height. You make up conjecture and wild theories. Him being 7’8” is even worse
Yao is 7-8 said on 20/Oct/20
RJT said on 20/Oct/20
This is Yao's official height from 1999 Asian basketball championship Click Here, he was listed at 227cm which translated to 7'5.5". He was still 19 so already at that height there. To my knowledge since Chinese people (And most other East Asians) take off their shoes inside building, when they state their height, it is exclusively barefoot. This is how Yao looks next to 7 footer Wang Zhizhi who was billed at 7'1 during his NBA career.

Response: While the Chinese do tend to take off shoes at home, they put on sandals and don't walk around barefoot. However, I don't think this would apply to basketball players in a gym. I believe those heights were measured wearing shoes since Yao was 19 and probably around 7-4. Zhizhi Wang(pronunciation similar to Gigi in Chinese but the NBA butchered it by calling him Jeujeu)was legit 7-1 barefoot (2.16m) as an adult. Yao has always looked about 6 to 7 inches taller than Zhizhi. The Yao/Muresan pic was from 2009, the camera was level with their heads and Yao was clearly taller. Yao is 7-8 or very close, 7-7+.

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RJT said on 20/Oct/20
@Editor Rob

This is Yao's official height from 1999 Asian basketball championship Click Here, he was listed at 227cm which translated to 7'5.5". He was still 19 so already at that height there. To my knowledge since Chinese people (And most other East Asians) take off their shoes inside building, when they state their height, it is exclusively barefoot.

This is how Yao looks next to 7 footer Wang Zhizhi who was billed at 7'1 during his NBA career Click Here #14 is Wang. As you can see his tophead was below Yao's eyelevel, which line up with 7'1 Mutombo whose tophead reach Yao's eyelevel. In the data pic above, Wang was listed at 214cm which mean 7ft 1/4".

Wang is legit 7footer, he's taller than 6'11 range Nowitzki
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Yao is 7-8 said on 19/Oct/20
Canson said on 18/Oct/20
I don’t get how Yao “downplays his height” and this is anecdotal in China yet Hogan “can claim what he wants” for his height. Interesting how things work on this site.

Response: Yao is famous for downplaying his height, but Hogan, like many pro-wrestlers, tend to exaggerate his height by as much as he can get away with. For example, Andre the Giant claiming 7-4 with a straight face though he is not even 7 feet. Simple enough for you to understand?
Canson said on 18/Oct/20
I don’t get how Yao “downplays his height” and this is anecdotal in China yet Hogan “can claim what he wants” for his height. Interesting how things work on this site
Yao is 7-8 said on 17/Oct/20
6'3 Julian said on 17/Oct/20
@Yao is 7-8. Those aren’t photos of Yao that you’ve posted. Those appeared on my phone as big blocks of Chinese text and pictures from a Mark Henry vs Big Show match. Is this intentional?

Response: What?? Bro how many Red Bulls do you drink a day? You are too hyper and now getting paranoid. The links work fine for me. It's the 2nd pic down. The first pic was Big Show/Shaq, not Mark Henry, Lol. It's the same pic that RJT posted.
6'3 Julian said on 17/Oct/20
@Yao is 7-8. Those aren’t photos of Yao that you’ve posted. Those appeared on my phone as big blocks of Chinese text and pictures from a Mark Henry vs Big Show match. Is this intentional?
6'3 Julian said on 16/Oct/20
His kegs didn’t look far apart to me
Canson said on 16/Oct/20
@RJT: question is, is 7’9” a low for Sun? He would lose more than average. Not so sure as tall as he is. Someone that size can lose a lot. I can see a solid 7’5 like he was previously listed.
Robbe said on 16/Oct/20
That's a solid 3in difference to me.

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Yao's eyelevel is on Sun's mouthlevel, that's easy 3in. Lol, if that's 2in difference, Sun has only 3.75in from his eyelevel to his tophead. Not possible.

Considering footwear, Sun is easily a good 3in taller than Yao.
Hyper said on 15/Oct/20
@Canson

Generally, I try to go by quarters of an inch, by guess. Sometimes, I try going by 1/8ths, even though that’s a bit too extreme unless it’s for athletes.
RJT said on 15/Oct/20
@Canson
I posted twice before but idk why my comment didn't go through, oh well 3rd time is the charm

With 7'9 officially measured by Guinness Sun Ming Ming, Yao looked "only" 3" shorter. Click Here

Taking into account Yao was wearing sneaker and Sun was in sandal, that should gave Yao 3/4" footwear advantage, take them off and Yao's eyelevel would be around Sun's mouth, which equal to 3" difference.

As can be seen from various pics with Mutombo, KG & with Sun, Yao can be as tall as 7'6. 7'5.5" would then be Yao's low. Under 7'5 flat is unlikely.
Yao is 7-8 said on 13/Oct/20
Yao is 7-8 max peak height. Aside from the Yao/Muresan photo, below is a photo of Yao in a restaurant next to Guinness verified 7-9 Mingming Sun. The angle is terrible, but as you can see, there is no way Sun is 3 inches taller than Yao, more like 2 inches, but if you look closely Yao's legs were really far apart, as if he wanted to make himself shorter, further proof that Yao is actually 7-8.

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RJT said on 12/Oct/20
@Editor Rob @Canson

This is Yao's pic with 7'9 Guiness measured Sun Ming Ming, better angle than the 1 with Kaka
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That does seem like solid 2" difference but upon closer inspection, Sun was wearing sandal which probably only gave him 1/2" and Yao wearing sneaker which at least gave him 1". Considering Yao's large feet, lets just say it gave him 1. 25" for pete's sake, so Yao had solid 3/4" footwear advantage then. Take of the shoes for both guys and Yao's eyelevel probably would be around Sun's mouth which would make Yao 3" shorter at 7'6.

I think it's safe to completely rule out under 7'5 for Yao. This listing is good as that may be what Yao's low is by CH standard. But as seen from various pics with Mutombo, KG and Sun Ming Ming, he can be as tall as 7'6.
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Yao did hold up pretty good with Sun
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 12/Oct/20
I did like to stand next to Yao and feel that 1 foot difference making me short :p
Canson said on 12/Oct/20
@Julian: I’d certainly agree with that over a 7’7” or 7’8” Yao. Lol the funny part is I’ve seen Yao is 7-8 say that a morning measurement is fine when it supported Lebron being 6’8.5”. However, and you are very smart too, you’ve seen that most people here such as Christian, Rising, Viper, Edward, Riky, Roderick, you, Mickie, Tall in the Saddle, Hyper (even Pierre) etc, usually stick to one measurement (meaning afternoon or morning). They don’t use alternate measurements and times just to fit their narrative. Yet he said once that Hogan is 6’4 out of bed maybe and 6’3.25”. So he must believe Yao is 7’9” out of bed Or that he’s 7’7-7’8 out of bed meaning he still dips into the 7’6 range or perhaps 7’5” by his logic lol
6'3 Julian said on 11/Oct/20
@Canson Yao Ming probably wakes up a weak 7’6 and goes to be 7’4.25
Canson said on 11/Oct/20
@RJT: I agree with a lot of what you said. A guy his size can stand to lose well over an inch. But then I see him with Shaq who’s admitted to only being 6’11.75”. Shaq wears orthotics too by his own admission. Not sure if Yao does. My guess collectively with Shaq and KG I’d go with 7’5” flat for Yao. He’s also shorter than Shawn Bradley. Other thing to remember is if you look to the left the advantage on 6’10” Tim Duncan isn’t as much as you’d expect. I almost wonder if the angle is favored the further left you move in the picture
Canson said on 11/Oct/20
@Julian: I’m thinking between 7’4-5 at bedtime but at that height I don’t completely rule what you said out! No one knows exactly where he wakes and he could lose perhaps 2”
6'3 Julian said on 11/Oct/20
@Canson in that case he may go to bed under 7’4!
RJT said on 10/Oct/20
@Canson

Actually with KG and Mutombo, Yao looks as listed.

With Mutombo when they were still playing
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Mutombo's tophead reach only Yao's eyelevel. That's solid 5" difference. Yao should have 5" from eyelevel to tophead. Prime Mutombo was 7'1 which I think you agree too.

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With prime KG whom we agree is solid 6'11, his tophead barely reach Yao's nosetip. Rob has said from nosetip to tophead is 6"-6"5, even 7" for lager heads and that should be the case with guy Yao's size.

I'm thinking 7'5.5" is Yao's low and he can be even taller like 1/4" or 1/2" in lazier days. A guy that size will fluctuate more than normal sized guys.
Canson said on 10/Oct/20
@Robbe: Yao is a bit closer to the camera than Pau too. I have Yao at 7’5”. I believe 7’5.75 to be an early morning measurement and believe Yao to be about Tacko Fall’s height as Fall measured 7’5 flat when the season started (not 7’6 or 7’5.25)
Canson said on 10/Oct/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 10/Oct/20
6'3 Julian said on 8/Oct/20
Given that Yao Ming is a giant and weighs 310 pounds, it wouldn’t shock me if he wakes up 7’6 and goes to bed 7’4.5

Response: Man, you are beyond help, I ain't going back and forth with you no more.

Canson said on 8/Oct/20
Don’t make up height differences just to support your narrative. If you really believe that to be 8” you really have no business on this site or critiquing others. Btw Pau is not 7’1”. That’s already been established. 7’0” listed Andrew Bynum looks taller than Pau. Pau looks 6’11” there really but I’ll agree with Robbe and give him 7’0”. That’s what he was when he was drafted and that’s the most he is now.

Response:Duhhh, of course I am going to support my own narrative, isn't that the whole point?? I mean, I am not going to contravene myself, nobody does that, at least not intentionally. But I am using facts, real quotes, and photos, I am not making anything up. You are the one who tend to make things up to support your own narrative. And Gasol is a bit taller than Bynum, not by much, maybe Gasol is 7' 1/2" rounded up and Bynum is 7 flat. Here's the same pic you posted, except you see their feet. Gasol looked taller to me.

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You again posted one pic to support you narrative. One that works in your favor. Just like with Muresan and Yao. Bynum was not shorter than Gasol on tv and in all of the pics I posted. Gasol also is not 2” taller than his brother it was at most 1”. There you go making up height differences as I said just to support your narrative. Gasol was max 7’0” tall
Yao is 7-8 said on 10/Oct/20
6'3 Julian said on 8/Oct/20
Given that Yao Ming is a giant and weighs 310 pounds, it wouldn’t shock me if he wakes up 7’6 and goes to bed 7’4.5

Response: Man, you are beyond help, I ain't going back and forth with you no more.

Canson said on 8/Oct/20
Don’t make up height differences just to support your narrative. If you really believe that to be 8” you really have no business on this site or critiquing others. Btw Pau is not 7’1”. That’s already been established. 7’0” listed Andrew Bynum looks taller than Pau. Pau looks 6’11” there really but I’ll agree with Robbe and give him 7’0”. That’s what he was when he was drafted and that’s the most he is now.

Response:Duhhh, of course I am going to support my own narrative, isn't that the whole point?? I mean, I am not going to contravene myself, nobody does that, at least not intentionally. But I am using facts, real quotes, and photos, I am not making anything up. You are the one who tend to make things up to support your own narrative. And Gasol is a bit taller than Bynum, not by much, maybe Gasol is 7' 1/2" rounded up and Bynum is 7 flat. Here's the same pic you posted, except you see their feet. Gasol looked taller to me.

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Robbe said on 9/Oct/20
I can't see more than 5.5in difference there.

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Pau and Marc are very close in height. Within an inch i would say. On the third pic Marc with slouching Lauri Markkanen.

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Marc with 6'11.25 measured Brook Lopez.

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Marc is listed at 6'11 on the newest roster, and Pau was listed at 7ft when he played in NBA.

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So, Pau is not over 7ft barefoot. To me, Yao looks as listed with Pau.
Canson said on 8/Oct/20
A little bit of coaching on deciphering height differences. The eye brow level on a normal sized head is 4”. While Yao’s head is large, his forehead is not that much larger than the average person. Gasol comes to Yao’s eye level. That’s not even 5.5” difference between Gasol and Yao. It’s more like 5”. 8” would be well Below his mouth. Keep in mind that Andrew Bynum was 7’0” and Pau can look shorter than him at times so he’s not over 7’0”. He could struggle to look it really
Editor Rob
I'd posted this Still from an RAF crew study on dimensions and the brow ridge is pretty much on average just under 4 inches, for a giant guy, like 95th percentile it's nearer 4.2 inches.
Canson said on 8/Oct/20
@Robbe: I’m not so sure that they’re even the same today. I could see Larry still edging Magic. In their primes, Bird had around 1.5” on Magic
Canson said on 8/Oct/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 7/Oct/20
Robbe said on 5/Oct/20
Yao here with a legit 7 footer Pau Gasol. That's not over 5.5in difference. Picture is from 2006, so Yao is 26 years old there.

Response: No, that's not 5.5" difference, that's more like a 7-8" difference. And Robbe you start measuring from the top of Gasol's head, not the top of his hair. LMAO. Gasol is 7-1 barefoot, so Yao looked 7-8 in that pic for sure.

Don’t make up height differences just to support your narrative. If you really believe that to be 8” you really have no business on this site or critiquing others.

Btw Pau is not 7’1”. That’s already been established. 7’0” listed Andrew Bynum looks taller than Pau. Pau looks 6’11” there really but I’ll agree with Robbe and give him 7’0”. That’s what he was when he was drafted and that’s the most he is now

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6'3 Julian said on 8/Oct/20
Given that Yao Ming is a giant and weighs 310 pounds, it wouldn’t shock me if he wakes up 7’6 and goes to bed 7’4.5
Yao is 7-8 said on 7/Oct/20
Robbe said on 5/Oct/20
Yao here with a legit 7 footer Pau Gasol. That's not over 5.5in difference. Picture is from 2006, so Yao is 26 years old there.

Response: No, that's not 5.5" difference, that's more like a 7-8" difference. And Robbe you start measuring from the top of Gasol's head, not the top of his hair. LMAO. Gasol is 7-1 barefoot, so Yao looked 7-8 in that pic for sure.
Robbe said on 7/Oct/20
Larry and Magic are about the same height today, that's true. Larry maybe hair taller. Magic has kept his height pretty well, but Larry has lost at least an inch due to his back problems. Prime Larry was visible taller than Magic Click Here
Canson said on 6/Oct/20
@Robbe: It mentions here that Pau is 7’ and that his brother is 7’1”. Marc is now listed 6’11” coincidentally and Pau is not 2” taller. If Pau is taller it’s by an inch max. And I’m waiting to hear Yao is 7-8 make an excuse about the pictures and suggest one that favors Pau to justify 2” difference; or to suggest that something else. He makes Pau taller to justify the listings of other players which trickle down to Lebron being 6’8.5 or 6’9” or Yao being 7’8”

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Pau with camera advantage is still not 2” taller

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Pau does not have 8” on Kobe 6’4.75”

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Canson said on 6/Oct/20
@Robbe: not to mention Andrew Bynum is taller than Pau. Pau is 7’ not 7’1”
Canson said on 6/Oct/20
@Yao is 7-8: the video is there. It’s just that nobody takes any of your biased evidence seriously being you dismiss the unbiased evidence that goes against your narrative
Slim 6'1" said on 6/Oct/20
228cm
Yao is 7-8 said on 6/Oct/20
Did yall even look at the video of Larry/Magic? "Let's go to the video tape!", as sports anchor Warner Wolf used to say.

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Robbe said on 5/Oct/20
Yao here with a legit 7 footer Pau Gasol. That's not over 5.5in difference.

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Picture is from 2006, so Yao is 26 years old there.
Canson said on 2/Oct/20
@Julian: it was a compliment. I was saying that there are estimates or possibilities you’ve provided that I never thought of
6'3 Julian said on 2/Oct/20
@Canson what exactly did I bring up?
Canson said on 30/Sep/20
@Julian: yea him saying we are the same person is him trying to come up with some way to attack us. Not to mention that a lot of things you have brought up (to your credit) I never even considered when it comes to estimates
Canson said on 30/Sep/20
Robbe said on 29/Sep/20
Back to back doesn't mean the angle is always 100% accurate, of course not. How come Larry is suddenly taller in the left pic? And how come his head has grown?

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Also look at their feet, just like i mentioned in my previous post. On the left, their feet are on the same level, on the right Magic's feet are heading more to the camera. Means he is favored by the camera angle there. That's why his eyeline appears taller than Larry's. In reality, Larry is minimum 1in taller than Magic. I prefer though 1.5in.

He completely ignored the Olympic pic which is a frontal shot of Magic Jordan and Bird. They look around their listed heights here going off that (with the exception of Jordan looking more 6’4.5 which he did actually measure). I guess because it doesn’t support his narrative
6'3 Julian said on 30/Sep/20
Bro Im not a Canson burner account. Canson claims to be just over 6’4. I’m 6’3. Also we’ve argued in the past, on Tyler Mane’s page for example
Canson said on 29/Sep/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 27/Sep/20

Response: Nice try nothing. What are you talking about? They are back to back! What does camera angle have to do with anything. I would agree that they were the same height, but IMHO Magic looked a bit taller when he straightened up. The problem with Magic was that he's got the reverse Napolean disorder, he was a big man who wished he was little, which was the reason in most pics Magic looked a bit hunch-backed.

So if Magic really were like that (he clearly is not), why would he always claim 6’8.5” and 6’9”? He knows that’s his shoe height. He has gotten accustomed to claiming that and he’s 6’7” range barefoot. So what you said about him wishing he were shorter is false and makes absolutely no sense consistent with your other arguments
Canson said on 29/Sep/20
6'3 Julian said on 27/Sep/20
@Yao is 7-8 you seem like a decent guy, except for trying to alter people’s height. Do you mind me asking why your guesses are so eccentric?

Lol
Yao is 7-8 said on 29/Sep/20
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Here is a video of Larry and Magic at the Lifetime Achievement Award in 2019. Pause at 5:17 and other points during the video when they were standing together. How can anybody say Larry is taller than Magic? They are about the same height at 6-7 and change barefoot, maybe Magic with slight edge if standing as straight as possible.
Robbe said on 29/Sep/20
Back to back doesn't mean the angle is always 100% accurate, of course not. How come Larry is suddenly taller in the left pic? And how come his head has grown?

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Also look at their feet, just like i mentioned in my previous post. On the left, their feet are on the same level, on the right Magic's feet are heading more to the camera. Means he is favored by the camera angle there. That's why his eyeline appears taller than Larry's. In reality, Larry is minimum 1in taller than Magic. I prefer though 1.5in.
6'3 Julian said on 28/Sep/20
@Yao is 7-8 I’ve argued with Canson before, see on Tyler Mane’s page. Plus Canson claimed to be 6’4.25, which is taller than I am
Canson said on 28/Sep/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 27/Sep/20

Response: I said many times that Yao was a bit shorter than Bradley in 2002 when Yao/Bradley pics were taken, so how am I a liar? However, the entire NBA acknowledged that after 2002 Yao grew taller, which was why Yao's NBA profile changed from 7-5 in 2002 to 7-6 in 2003. Yet you refused to accept that Yao got taller and though I gave you cred for Yao/Bradley pics you refused to do the same for Yao/Muresan pic from 2009. Who's hatin? Who's biased? You, Canson.

How am I biased or hatin because I don’t believe someone is as tall as they claim? You sound very immature and delusional and you are the one who is biased wanting Yao to be taller than he really is. It’s funny how you Round Yao to 7’8” and from your estimate of 7’7+ Yet you round Wilt Chamberlin down to 7’0” from your estimate of 7’0.5” simply to fit your narratives.

So you’re asking me if I’m Julian 6’3? That’s easy being Julian and I got into an argument (and only one) when he first began posting. Nothing since then tho and I respect him unlike you. You don’t recall he said something to both of us as a matter of fact. Not to mention I live in the US and he lives in Europe. And what do you mean he copycats me? He comes up with his own estimates and thoughts. There have been a lot of things he’s said that I’ve never even though of.

Why don’t you go ahead and ask Rob if we are the same person. He will provide you With the answer you want to hear. Don’t make up outlandish theories and come up with stuff just to attack someone’s character because they don’t agree with you
Yao is 7-8 said on 27/Sep/20
Robbe said on 27/Sep/20
Larry is definitely taller than Magic. If you look at the back to back photo, Magic's head looks bigger than Larry's. We all know Larry's head is way bigger than Magic's. So, the camera angle is favoring Magic there. Can be seen also if you look at their feet. So the picture is not telling the truth. Also Larry's posture is worse than Magic's. Nice try anyway.

Response: Nice try nothing. What are you talking about? They are back to back! What does camera angle have to do with anything. I would agree that they were the same height, but IMHO Magic looked a bit taller when he straightened up. The problem with Magic was that he's got the reverse Napolean disorder, he was a big man who wished he was little, which was the reason in most pics Magic looked a bit hunch-backed.

Canson said on 27/Sep/20
I call bullsh1t. You’re not unbiased and that pic with Muresan that you cling onto is proof. That’s your “proof” yet you ignore the one with Bradley. Don’t lie.
6'3 Julian said on 27/Sep/20
@Yao is 7-8 you seem like a decent guy, except for trying to alter people’s height. Do you mind me asking why your guesses are so eccentric?

Response: I said many times that Yao was a bit shorter than Bradley in 2002 when Yao/Bradley pics were taken, so how am I a liar? However, the entire NBA acknowledged that after 2002 Yao grew taller, which was why Yao's NBA profile changed from 7-5 in 2002 to 7-6 in 2003. Yet you refused to accept that Yao got taller and though I gave you cred for Yao/Bradley pics you refused to do the same for Yao/Muresan pic from 2009. Who's hatin? Who's biased? You, Canson.

To me you are eccentric Julian in that you just seem to copycat Canson and don't have your own thoughts. I am not sure if you ain't just another name used by Canson to support his own arguments.
Canson said on 27/Sep/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 23/Sep/20

Response: Why you mad? I am just giving my honest opinion. How is saying Yao is 7-7+ moronic when 2009 photo showed Yao to be taller than 7-7 Muresan? And yes, while I am convinced Yao is 7-7+, I am not certain he is 7-8 flat. I am fair and unbiased, unlike others on here. I can still be a maniac in the gym and on the mat, maybe we could roll sometime in a friendly jujitsu match.

I call bullsh1t. You’re not unbiased and that pic with Muresan that you cling onto is proof. That’s your “proof” yet you ignore the one with Bradley. Don’t lie
Canson said on 27/Sep/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 24/Sep/20
Yao is 7-7+ barefoot and Bird is not taller than Magic. These are facts, not guesses. Take a look at this Magic/Bird back to back photo, enlarge it. You can see them from head to toe. You seriously gonna tell me that Larry was taller?

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If Magic is the same height as Bird, why does Bird look taller than him and why does Bird have as much of an advantage on Jordan as he does? That’s not how a 6’4/6’5 guy would look next to a 6’7” and change guy. I’ll digress on Yao’s height as another argument isn’t deemed necessary at this point

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6'3 Julian said on 27/Sep/20
@Yao is 7-8 you seem like a decent guy, except for trying to alter people’s height. Do you mind me asking why your guesses are so eccentric?
Robbe said on 27/Sep/20
Larry is definitely taller than Magic. If you look at the back to back photo, Magic's head looks bigger than Larry's. We all know Larry's head is way bigger than Magic's. So, the camera angle is favoring Magic there. Can be seen also if you look at their feet. So the picture is not telling the truth. Also Larry's posture is worse than Magic's. Nice try anyway.
Yao is 7-8 said on 24/Sep/20
Yao is 7-7+ barefoot and Bird is not taller than Magic. These are facts, not guesses. Take a look at this Magic/Bird back to back photo, enlarge it. You can see them from head to toe. You seriously gonna tell me that Larry was taller?

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6'3 Julian said on 24/Sep/20
@Canson my favourite was when he said Hogans current height was his peak and he made up crap about functional height
Yao is 7-8 said on 23/Sep/20
6'3 Julian said on 21/Sep/20
@Yao is 7-8 although I despise you and think you’re argument is moronic, I admire your persistence in trying to push your ideas onto people. Interesting, that maniac says 7’7+. Not 7’8.

Response: Why you mad? I am just giving my honest opinion. How is saying Yao is 7-7+ moronic when 2009 photo showed Yao to be taller than 7-7 Muresan? And yes, while I am convinced Yao is 7-7+, I am not certain he is 7-8 flat. I am fair and unbiased, unlike others on here. I can still be a maniac in the gym and on the mat, maybe we could roll sometime in a friendly jujitsu match.
Canson said on 23/Sep/20
6'3 Julian said on 23/Sep/20
Interesting, that maniac says 7’7+. Not 7’8

Even more interesting that the 7’7+ is rounded to 7’8” with Yao but he’s quick to point out that Wilt measured 7’0.5 in his prime (not 7’1”) and he then proceeds to round Wilt down to 7’0”. Interesting tidbit of information there
6'3 Julian said on 23/Sep/20
Interesting, that maniac says 7’7+. Not 7’8
Canson said on 22/Sep/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 22/Sep/20
@Canson, No I know I am right about Yao's height, he is 7-7+ barefoot. You know you are right that's why you get so defensive and throw shade every time I call you out.

Correct. I know I am right. Thank you for admitting it. But it’s not about being right here. And I don’t throw shade at you. Dint make up stuff just because I don’t agree with you.

@Julian: I don’t despise him but I vehemently disagree with him
Yao is 7-8 said on 22/Sep/20
@Canson, No I know I am right about Yao's height, he is 7-7+ barefoot. You know you are right that's why you get so defensive and throw shade every time I call you out.
6'3 Julian said on 21/Sep/20
@Yao is 7-8 although I despise you and think you’re argument is moronic, I admire your persistence in trying to push your ideas onto people
Canson said on 21/Sep/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 17/Sep/20
6'3 Julian said on 14/Sep/20
@Yao is 7-8 is your girlfriend ever upset because you don’t know what 7 or 8 inches looks like

Response: No, but I am sure you do. And Yao is 7-7+.

Canson said on 14/Sep/20
You don’t sound intelligent. How is me thinking someone is shorter than you want them to be (everyone knows Yao isn’t 7-8) hating?

Response: What does estimating height have to do with intelligence? And I am not saying Yao is 7-8 flat, could be, but I am confident Yao is 7-7+, unless Muresan is only 7-5.

I didn’t say anything about estimating height. I said How is me thinking someone is shorter than you want them to be hating?

You’re trying to avoid answering the question by deflecting the attention. It’s called making a straw man argument and you are doing it because you know what you are saying is wrong
Yao is 7-8 said on 21/Sep/20
FriedChicken said on 18/Sep/20
Its kinda hard to pin point exactly where he'd be by this site's afternoon standards sincle abnormally tall people like Yao Ming lose more than an inch throughout the day. I don't know where this 7 ft 8 stuff is coming from though..

Response: Read all the comment history below, including links to pics of Yao/Muresan. Don't just look at a few recent comments and then draw conclusions. BTW, I love fried chicken, especially when it's done right, and Popeye's is better than KFC.
FriedChicken said on 18/Sep/20
Its kinda hard to pin point exactly where he'd be by this site's afternoon standards sincle abnormally tall people like Yao Ming lose more than an inch throughout the day. I don't know where this 7 ft 8 stuff is coming from though..
Yao is 7-8 said on 17/Sep/20
6'3 Julian said on 14/Sep/20
@Yao is 7-8 is your girlfriend ever upset because you don’t know what 7 or 8 inches looks like

Response: No, but I am sure you do. And Yao is 7-7+.

Canson said on 14/Sep/20
You don’t sound intelligent. How is me thinking someone is shorter than you want them to be (everyone knows Yao isn’t 7-8) hating?

Response: What does estimating height have to do with intelligence? And I am not saying Yao is 7-8 flat, could be, but I am confident Yao is 7-7+, unless Muresan is only 7-5.
Canson said on 15/Sep/20
6'3 Julian said on 14/Sep/20
@Yao is 7-8 is your girlfriend ever upset because you don’t know what 7 or 8 inches looks like

😂 😂
6'3 Julian said on 14/Sep/20
@Yao is 7-8 is your girlfriend ever upset because you don’t know what 7 or 8 inches looks like
Canson said on 14/Sep/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 14/Sep/20

Response: Proof? Muresan is the tallest NBA player in history at 7-7. Yao is noticeably taller than Muresan in a photo taken in China in 2009. Therefore, Yao is 7-7+/7-8. You can hate all you want, but you won't be able to produce a photo post-2009 that showed Yao to be shorter than Bradley/Muresan. THAT IS SOMETHING YOU JUST CANNOT DO. And speaking of Bradley, the last official NBA measurement of Bradley was 7-5 1/2, and for Yao 7-5 3/4. So either way, Yao is officially taller than Bradley despite the back to back in 2002.

You don’t sound intelligent. How is me thinking someone is shorter than you want them to be (everyone knows Yao isn’t 7-8) hating?
Yao is 7-8 said on 14/Sep/20
Canson said on 12/Sep/20
So how is he 7-7+/7-8 barefoot? What’s your excuse for it? Is it your paranoid delusion kicking in? You like to believe others’ proclamations when they support your narratives. Good luck convincing anyone that Yao is 7-7/7-8. That includes Rob.

Response: Proof? Muresan is the tallest NBA player in history at 7-7. Yao is noticeably taller than Muresan in a photo taken in China in 2009. Therefore, Yao is 7-7+/7-8. You can hate all you want, but you won't be able to produce a photo post-2009 that showed Yao to be shorter than Bradley/Muresan. THAT IS SOMETHING YOU JUST CANNOT DO. And speaking of Bradley, the last official NBA measurement of Bradley was 7-5 1/2, and for Yao 7-5 3/4. So either way, Yao is officially taller than Bradley despite the back to back in 2002.
6'3 Julian said on 13/Sep/20
@Canson I think it’s working
6'3 Julian said on 12/Sep/20
He’s actually a midget who wears stilts like all basketball players are. He’s 4’2. No NBA player has ever exceeded 4’6 without huge stilts
Canson said on 12/Sep/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 11/Sep/20
Yao is 7-7+/7-8 barefoot height

He says here that he’s 7’6”

Yao has stated "I'm 7-6".

So how is he 7-7+/7-8 barefoot? What’s your excuse for it? Is it your paranoid delusion kicking in? You like to believe others’ proclamations when they support your narratives.

Good luck convincing anyone that Yao is 7-7/7-8. That includes Rob

Yao is 7-8 said on 10/Sep/20
@Canson, There you go again with your paranoid delusion that Boban was lying and got measured in shoes. See article below "Boban says he was measured this morning: 7-3 and a half inch in stocking feet. “I guess I grew,” he says.

I'll bet anyone I'm not 7-1...I guarantee it. I'll lie down over there [on a long polished wood table] and I'm willing to have you measure me"...[A 76ers official produces a measuring tape while Wilt took off his shoes and laid down...It measured 84.5 inches from head to toe...."84½ inches! That's 7-½! I told you I wasn't 7-1. You all didn't know I've been this little for so long."
News Journal, 1980
Yao is 7-8 said on 11/Sep/20
Yao is 7-7+/7-8 barefoot height.
Canson said on 11/Sep/20
@Julian: you’re wrong. He actually wears 20” lifts!!!!
Canson said on 11/Sep/20
6'3 Julian said on 11/Sep/20
I mean you can clearly see it. The massive stilts he’s got in his legs

Yep that’s why he got by claiming 6’7” for all of those years! But had he been 6’3” peak, he would’ve been very unfortunate with his 6’7” desire as a 4” difference would be insurmountable lol. I could see something like what you said being the max for him 6’5.5” or min 6’5” flat
6'3 Julian said on 11/Sep/20
I mean you can clearly see it. The massive stilts he’s got in his legs
Canson said on 9/Sep/20
6'3 Julian said on 8/Sep/20
I’m gonna taunt @Yao is 7-8. He’s actually 6’1 and wears 18 inch lifts

Lol
6'3 Julian said on 8/Sep/20
I’m gonna taunt @Yao is 7-8. He’s actually 6’1 and wears 18 inch lifts
Yao is 7-8 said on 8/Sep/20
Robbe said on 7/Sep/20
Bill is much closer to the camera in your picture. That's why he looks close to Shaq's height. If you didn't notice, Bill is looking up at Shaq, you don't have to do that if your only one inch shorter. Picture is pretty old as well. Bill has lost quite a bit since his prime. This is more recent, and better picture, Bill is again slightly closer to the camera + angle is very low there. It's favoring Bill. Anybody who knows about heights/angles can tell right away this is not an inch difference.

Response: LMAO@Robbe. The first pic Shaq was yelling and Bill was just taken aback, he wasn't looking up at Shaq as Shaq was pretty much eye-level. Yes Shaq is taller, 7-1 with shoes, but Bill is not far off from prime height, maybe 6-11 1/2 with shoes instead of 7 feet. KD/Hanno with Bill pics are suspect. I am sure if these photos were taken again and Bill was told to straighten up, Bill would certainly be taller than these 2 gentlemen, given equal footwear. Anyhow, point is Yao is just too much taller than Bill or Anthony Davis to make the pics useful in judging how tall Yao is.
Canson said on 7/Sep/20
Robbe said on 7/Sep/20
Bill is much closer to the camera in your picture. That's why he looks close to Shaq's height. If you didn't notice, Bill is looking up at Shaq, you don't have to do that if your only one inch shorter.

He either doesn’t know anything about camera angles or he simply dismisses what doesn’t support his narrative. The latter most likely. Because he also said that “Shaq says Yao is 7-8” or “Falsone says Yao was 7’5 3/4”. Or that Boban was surprised to be measured at 7’3.5” (he measured 7’2.25” in the Euroleague and that is about what he is now). Yet when Hogan claimed 6’6.5” he dismissed it as “Hogan can claim what he wants”. Ok fine

Yao is 7’5 3/4
Boban is 7’3 1/2
Hogan is 6’6.5

Notice how we all know that none of that is true (with the exception of a few believing Yao is 7’6”. At least he was listed at that height
Robbe said on 7/Sep/20
Bill is much closer to the camera in your picture. That's why he looks close to Shaq's height. If you didn't notice, Bill is looking up at Shaq, you don't have to do that if your only one inch shorter.

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Picture is pretty old as well. Bill has lost quite a bit since his prime. This is more recent, and better picture, Bill is again slightly closer to the camera + angle is very low there. It's favoring Bill. Anybody who knows about heights/angles can tell right away this is not an inch difference.

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And there's nothing fishy about that Hanno/Bill picture. Fact is Bill is nowadays that height. He is around KD:s range, as shown in the back to back photo.
Yao is 7-8 said on 7/Sep/20
Robbe said on 6/Sep/20
You can find that Bill/KD back to back photo on Bill's Instagram page. Hanno/Bill picture is on Hanno's Twitter page. That guy on the right with Hanno is 6'8 Mikael Jantunen. Anthony Davis (6'9.75) and Bill (6'9.5) with Yao.

Response: That Hanno/Walton pic still didn't look right with the entangled arms. The Shaq/Walton pic is better since we know with confidence how tall Shaq is and there is no tricky photography or photoshopping. Anyhow, Yao is so much taller than Walton/Davis that you really can't accurately say what the difference is: To me it's about 10 to 12 inches, but a Yao-hater would say no, only 8 inches, and so back and forth. Yao has to stand next to someone close to his size, like Bradley/Muresan/Mingming Sun, in order to make a workable comparison IMO. But I can say with confidence that Yao is 7-7+ barefoot.
Robbe said on 6/Sep/20
You can find that Bill/KD back to back photo on Bill's Instagram page. Hanno/Bill picture is on Hanno's Twitter page.

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That guy on the right with Hanno is 6'8 Mikael Jantunen.

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6'3 Julian said on 5/Sep/20
I said you made it SOUND small
Canson said on 4/Sep/20
6'3 Julian said on 2/Sep/20
You guys make 7’5 sound small! I met a legit 7 footer at jujitsu training once. Never got close enough to compare height but my 5’11 instructor was maybe shoulder high to 7 foot guy

Where did anyone say that 7’5” was small? Or where is anyone making it seem small? It’s just been said that he wasn’t 7’7-7’8 because that’s ridiculous when he was listed 7’6” his whole career. I’m sure if you look on the web there is no one else pushing this theory about him being 7’7-7’8”. Only that “Shaq said it” or that he “looked taller than Muresan” in one bad picture. Nothing of substance
Yao is 7-8 said on 4/Sep/20
Robbe said on 3/Sep/20
Bill with KD and KD with 6'11.75 Joel Embiid. I find it very hard to believe Bill is only 0.75in shorter than Joel.

Response: I don't know where did you find these pics of Walton with Mottola/Durant. I did a google search and I couldn't find any pics of Bill with Mottola/Durant, let alone useful pics for height comparison. Are you a graphic designer or photoshop expert bro?
Yao is 7-8 said on 3/Sep/20
6'3 Julian said on 2/Sep/20
You guys make 7’5 sound small! I met a legit 7 footer at jujitsu training once. Never got close enough to compare height but my 5’11 instructor was maybe shoulder high to 7 foot guy

Response: It's relative Julian. 7-5 is massive to smaller people like me and you, but small for Ming Yao because he is actually 7-7/7-8. Just like 5-11 might be huge to a person 5 feet tall, but if you are 6-3 then 5-11 is not so impressive. I do jujitsu too, maybe we can roll sometime :). BTW, I found it much more difficult to roll with an average height but very heavy guy (250+) than a very tall guy, given equal skills. Very tall physiques offer more room for escape and their long limbs and necks are easier targets for submission. Average heavy guy like Daniel Cormier size is more problematic if he is skilled. It's very hard to escape from their control and their shorter limbs/necks make submissions much more difficult.
Robbe said on 3/Sep/20
Bill with KD and KD with 6'11.75 Joel Embiid.

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I find it very hard to believe Bill is only 0.75in shorter than Joel.
Canson said on 2/Sep/20
Response: What are you talking about? The pic obviously was photo-shopped, and a bad job too. Look at how Mottola's right arm looked all screwed up. You couldn't even tell whose arm it was. Second, Mottola was closer to the camera and Bill's feet were wider apart. Third, who is Mottola and who cares? Just look at the Shaq/Bill Walton pics taken recently and that will tell you precisely how tall Bill is now, which is about 7 feet with shoes. Yao looked about 7-8/7-9 in shoes, or 7-7 1/2ish barefoot.

Are you high? The most Yao looks in a picture that doesn’t significantly favor him is a barefoot 7’6”. He generally looks 7’5” range
Yao is 7-8 said on 2/Sep/20
Canson said on 1/Sep/20
@Robbe: that is the most I could ever buy for Yao. And you said about which could mean 7.5” but then again Walton could still be 6’9.5 today. However, Yao himself said he’s almost 7’5” before. Him dipping under at that height isn’t unfathomable. But you cut through the rest of the nonsense like a knife

Response: Yeh whatever it takes to make Yao look shorter, even if it means shrinking Bill Wilton by 2 inches to 6-9 1/2 to make Yao look 7-5 instead of 7-7+. If Robbe had shrank Larry Bird or Shawn Bradley by 2 inches, you would be up in arms instead of saying his words cut through like a knife. Your act is getting OLD Canson.
6'3 Julian said on 2/Sep/20
You guys make 7’5 sound small! I met a legit 7 footer at jujitsu training once. Never got close enough to compare height but my 5’11 instructor was maybe shoulder high to 7 foot guy
Robbe said on 2/Sep/20
Lol at photo-shopped picture. Hanno and Bill are old buddies. Hanno was interviewing Bill at the States recently and that pic was taken at the same event. Just look at Bill vs Kevin Durant back to back photo on Bill,s page. He is closer to the camera and barely taller. I have Durant at 6,9.25, and Bill max 6'9.5. There are couple of more pics Bill vs KD, you can,t see the difference really. Zero chance Bill is 6,11 nowadays.
Canson said on 1/Sep/20
@Robbe: that is the most I could ever buy for Yao. And you said about which could mean 7.5” but then again Walton could still be 6’9.5 today. However, Yao himself said he’s almost 7’5” before. Him dipping under at that height isn’t unfathomable. But you cut through the rest of the nonsense like a knife
Yao is 7-8 said on 1/Sep/20
Robbe said on 1/Sep/20
Bill Walton is nowhere near 6'11 nowadays, he is shorter than 6'10 Hanno Möttölä. Here Hanno with Bill, exellent picture, both men standing at their best. On the right, Hanno with 6'7 Elias Valtonen and 6'8 Mikael Jantunen. Mikael is wearing slippers. Bill looks an inch shorter than Möttölä, and doesn't tower over Valtonen and Jantunen. So he cant be much over 6'9. Like you said, Yao is about 8in taller than Bill. That would mean 7'5 for Yao.

Response: What are you talking about? The pic obviously was photo-shopped, and a bad job too. Look at how Mottola's right arm looked all screwed up. You couldn't even tell whose arm it was. Second, Mottola was closer to the camera and Bill's feet were wider apart. Third, who is Mottola and who cares? Just look at the Shaq/Bill Walton pics taken recently and that will tell you precisely how tall Bill is now, which is about 7 feet with shoes. Yao looked about 7-8/7-9 in shoes, or 7-7 1/2ish barefoot.
Robbe said on 1/Sep/20
Bill Walton is nowhere near 6'11 nowadays, he is shorter than 6'10 Hanno Möttölä. Here Hanno with Bill, exellent picture, both men standing at their best. On the right, Hanno with 6'7 Elias Valtonen and 6'8 Mikael Jantunen. Mikael is wearing slippers.

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Bill looks an inch shorter than Möttölä, and doesn't tower over Valtonen and Jantunen. So he cant be much over 6'9. Like you said, Yao is about 8in taller than Bill. That would mean 7'5 for Yao.
Canson said on 31/Aug/20
@Robbe: I would say the following:

Ewing: 6’10” peak
Bird: 6’8.75-6’9 peak
Malone: 6’8 peak like you said
Magic 6’7.25-.5 peak
Pippen: 200ish
Rodman: 198-199
Drexler: 195-196
Jordan: 194-195
Barkley: 194-195
Mullin: mysterious. I used to say 6’5 but not sure if he wasn’t 6’4.5 Range like Barkley and Jordan

The pic is odd. Malone admitted he was 6’8” and he looks 4” taller than Drexler. Then Barkley in front of Magic looks almost 4” shorter but taller than Mullin when he wasn’t in a diff pic. Then Malone could look taller than Bird when he’s shorter. Malone could almost look taller than Ewing when he’s definitely not
Mickie said on 29/Aug/20
An aged Larry Bird is still taller than Paul George (who is taller than Lebron, himself) Click Here
Mickie said on 29/Aug/20
Bird was of course taller than Magic, saying otherwise is ignorant. Click Here
Robbe said on 29/Aug/20
Prime Pippen was easily 2in taller than guys like Jordan, Barkley, Mullin, and Drexler. Here with Jordan and Drexler.

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If Pippen was peak 6'5.5-6'6, then these guys were no more than 6'3.5-6'4. I don't think so. All these dudes are visible taller than regular 6'4 guys. Pippen was no less than 200cm in his prime. Could be 6'6.5 nowadays.

Larry is slouching in Yao's pic, while Pippen is tilting his head up. My pic was far better to judge their height difference. Larry isn't closer to the camera, well maybe 2cm closer, that's practically nothing, they are all standing tall in a row, in a pretty good angle. 6'10 Patrick Ewing looks around an inch taller than Larry, and Larry appears slightly taller than 6'8 Karl Malone. Pippen looks an inch shorter than Malone. Drexler about 2in shorter than Pippen. Just like they should appear.

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Pretty good picture to judge in my opinion. Zero chance prime Larry was 6'7 range.
Canson said on 28/Aug/20
@Robbe: I think more 227 than 8 but really 226 if you ask me. He looks max 7’5 with Shaq. That’s prob what he is
Canson said on 28/Aug/20
@Yao Is 7-8: yea and I would be willing to bet every penny I had in the bank that if Yao had measured 7’7.5 or 7’8 on 60 minutes that none of this would be a topic right now. That’s regardless of whether or not he measured 7’5” when drafted. And Just like You said Hogan’s claim of 6’6.5” You don’t believe, where is the proof Anthony Falsone measured Yao at 7’5.75”. There is none. The 7’5” is all that we have to go on
Canson said on 28/Aug/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 26/Aug/20
Canson said on 24/Aug/20
@Yao is 7-8: Bradley has a 7’6.25” measurement too but I don’t know if that’s him actually growing or being measured earlier in the day. In reality the difference between he and Yao is more like 1” or so. Rob lists Bradley 7’6 so Yao should be listed 7’5”.

Response: Bradley was measured 7-6 1/4 by the NBA? No, it was on 60 minutes, before draft camp, using a shaky tape measure. No clipboard, just Bradley standing next to the tape measure and 5 something Mickey Rooney eyeballing from below and saying "Shawn, I think you are 7-6 1/4!". Are you serious? Then Shawn went to the draft camp and got measured 7-5 1/2.

Robbe said on 23/Aug/20
What comes to Larry Bird, here is a very good pic of Larry and a legit 6'7 Scottie Pippen. Good angle, both men standing tall. Larry is noticeable taller. So, we can stop this nonsense about prime Larry being only 6'7.5, he was very close to 6'9, if not a full one.

Response: That was a terrible pic for height comparison. Bird and Pippen were standing some distance apart and Bird was closer to the camera. See better pic below where Bird was standing right next to Pippen. Prime Pippen was listed as 6-7 in shoes, or about 6-5 1/2/6-6 barefoot. I agree Bird was taller, but not by much, about 1-2 inches, which makes Bird 6-7! And again, Bird was not taller than Magic! See 2nd pic. Cease and desist this nonsense ASAP!

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6’5.5-6’6 for Pippen? No chance. He was at least 2” taller than Michael Jordan and was slightly taller than Rodman. The lowest I could see for Pippen was mid 6’6” range and that would mean Rodman was just 6’6” flat. Pippen May have lost height as he’s had multiple back surgeries. It’s possible he was close to if not the full 6’7” peak barefoot. So since you challenge people and say that measurements may have been in high school or that the official measurements are correct Pippen received 6’7.5” barefoot when he was drafted. Was he? Probably not but maybe it was slightly less and rounded up to 1/2” and morning so he’d only be slightly less than 6’7”. Worst case is if it were shoes he would be 6’6” range still. Pippen at 6’5.5-6’6 would make him Dr. J’s height or Around Dan Majerle’s and he was taller than both. Bird was a few inches taller than 6’5.5-6’6 Reggie Miller when he coached him and he had likely lost height by then. Lowest I could buy for Bird in his prime is a weak 6’9”. The pics posted are fine. The ones you post are not
Yao is 7-8 said on 28/Aug/20
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 26/Aug/20
This is the last time i mention with already posted fact that morning 7'9 Sun Ming Ming had Yao by 3" which mean Big Yao is 7'6 in the morning and probably Rob got Yao by his lowest at 7'5 1/2 or even 1/8-1/4 lower. Certainly not flat 7'5 for Yao.

Response: My brother Chris, can you post the photo where Sun looked 3 inches taller than Yao? All the photos that I have seen of these 2 Chinese giants don't show 3 inch difference. Although I agree Mingming Sun is taller, the margin is only about 1 to 2 inches to me.

Robbe said on 26/Aug/20
Yao here with Bill Walton, who is around 6'9.5 nowadays. Bill is about 2in taller than Kevin.
Black line describes where Markkanen should reach there. Looks 14-15cm difference to me. So 227-228cm for Yao is close enough.

Response: How do you know Bill Walton is 6-9 1/2 nowadays?? Bill was listed as 6-11 and that was a barefoot height since Bill was well-known for under-reporting his height and should have been listed as 7feet with shoes. Photos with Shaq clearly showed Bill to be only slightly shorter. The Yao/Walton pic showed Yao to be about 8-9 inches taller than Walton IMO, which makes Yao about 7-7/7-8 barefoot or 231-233cm, not 228.

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Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 26/Aug/20
This is the last time i mention with already posted fact that morning 7'9 Sun Ming Ming had Yao by 3" which mean Big Yao is 7'6 in the morning and probably Rob got Yao by his lowest at 7'5 1/2 or even 1/8-1/4 lower. Certainly not flat 7'5 for Yao.
Yao is 7-8 said on 26/Aug/20
Canson said on 24/Aug/20
@Yao is 7-8: Bradley has a 7’6.25” measurement too but I don’t know if that’s him actually growing or being measured earlier in the day. In reality the difference between he and Yao is more like 1” or so. Rob lists Bradley 7’6 so Yao should be listed 7’5”.

Response: Bradley was measured 7-6 1/4 by the NBA? No, it was on 60 minutes, before draft camp, using a shaky tape measure. No clipboard, just Bradley standing next to the tape measure and 5 something Mickey Rooney eyeballing from below and saying "Shawn, I think you are 7-6 1/4!". Are you serious? Then Shawn went to the draft camp and got measured 7-5 1/2.

Robbe said on 23/Aug/20
What comes to Larry Bird, here is a very good pic of Larry and a legit 6'7 Scottie Pippen. Good angle, both men standing tall. Larry is noticeable taller. So, we can stop this nonsense about prime Larry being only 6'7.5, he was very close to 6'9, if not a full one.

Response: That was a terrible pic for height comparison. Bird and Pippen were standing some distance apart and Bird was closer to the camera. See better pic below where Bird was standing right next to Pippen. Prime Pippen was listed as 6-7 in shoes, or about 6-5 1/2/6-6 barefoot. I agree Bird was taller, but not by much, about 1-2 inches, which makes Bird 6-7! And again, Bird was not taller than Magic! See 2nd pic. Cease and desist this nonsense ASAP!

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Robbe said on 26/Aug/20
Yao here with Bill Walton, who is around 6'9.5 nowadays. Bill is about 2in taller than Kevin.

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Black line describes where Markkanen should reach there. Looks 14-15cm difference to me. So 227-228cm for Yao is close enough.
Canson said on 25/Aug/20
@Robbe: I question whether Pippen is a legit 6’7. It’s possible he lost height though. I could see 6’6 range now. Bird in his prime at 6’7.5 is just ridiculous. Even if he wasn’t the full 6’9, he was at least a weak 6’9”

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Canson said on 24/Aug/20
@Yao is 7-8: Bradley has a 7’6.25” measurement too but I don’t know if that’s him actually growing or being measured earlier in the day. In reality the difference between he and Yao is more like 1” or so. Rob lists Bradley 7’6 so Yao should be listed 7’5”
Robbe said on 23/Aug/20
What comes to Larry Bird, here is a very good pic of Larry and a legit 6'7 Scottie Pippen. Good angle, both men standing tall. Larry is noticeable taller.

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So, we can stop this nonsense about prime Larry being only 6'7.5, he was very close to 6'9, if not a full one. Nowadays he has lost about an inch or so.
Yao is 7-8 said on 22/Aug/20
Canson said on 20/Aug/20
The common sense approach here is that if Yao were really 7’8”, the NBA would’ve listed him at that. He was listed 7’6”. He measured 7’5.75 at one stage and 7’5” flat. The latter is closer to his actual height if we use the standards on this site of afternoon height.

Response: It's true that Yao's last official measurement was 7-5 3/4, which btw is still taller than Bradley's last official measurement of 7-5 1/2. Age 25 Yao was unofficially measured as 7-8 in shoes before the 2006 All Star game. The news used to be all over the internet, including reactions from Shaq and Duncan, but I guess it got scrubbed because I can't find it anymore.
Robbe said on 22/Aug/20
Like i said on Kevin's page, there's something wrong with this pic, Kevin looks almost the same height as 7ft Lauri Markkanen. Lauri can't be so short next to Yao.

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Kevin is at least 4in shorter than Markkanen. This is a better pic.

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Yao looks only 4in taller than Markkanen there, but he is further away from the camera. I think he is bang on 5.5in taller in reality.
Mickie said on 20/Aug/20
Deltaf Schrempf might still be around 6'9" for all I know. Bird has lost height and there's clearly not 2" separating them. I agree Schrempf in recent years is a little taller but that's like an inch tops. And again, peak Bird was taller than current Bird (who is still taller than Paul George).
Canson said on 20/Aug/20
A 7-8 guy wouldn’t have this little of a difference on a 6’7” range guy

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Two people here (including Dan Majerle) say Love is 6’7” meaning his 6’7.75 was likely a morning height or was like Dwayne wade’s measurement inaccurate. Looking at him he’s not much taller than Lebron so likely 6’7.25-.5 range max

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Canson said on 20/Aug/20
The common sense approach here is that if Yao were really 7’8”, the NBA would’ve listed him at that. So if he really did grow, it would’ve been documented being they do the same when a player truly grows (ex- Paul George was listed 6’8 when he came in the league then 6’9”). We see in reality he didn’t grow. His pre draft was 6’7.75” and he is now listed 6’8”. And they didn’t change Yao’s. He was listed 7’6”. He measured 7’5.75 at one stage and 7’5” flat. The latter is closer to his actual height if we use the standards on this site of afternoon height.
Yao is 7-8 said on 19/Aug/20
Canson said on 14/Aug/20
You do base your estimate on emotion. And here is the “6’8 1/2 Detlef Schrempf” and Bird. Keep in mind if either of them is likely to have lost any height, it would’ve been Bird with his back issues.

Response: And Detlef is obviously taller, which makes Bird 6-7, your point being??? BTW, I am pretty sure at one point Perkins was listed and/or announced as 7 feet by the NBA.
Canson said on 15/Aug/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 13/Aug/20
@Canson, Editor Rob was just providing some guidelines, by no means is average height a requirement unless we talking Guinness Book. I use max height during the day because it's just easier. You want to drive yourself crazy with what height got measured when during the day then go ahead. As Wilt Chamberlain said, who controls the asylum?

Perkins used to be listed as 7 feet, but got knocked down to 6-10, probably his barefoot height. Ain't no way is Perk 6-8.

Canson said on 11/Aug/20
Pretty obvious Lebron is favored by the Camera Yao is 7-8. If you’re going to use pics then use good ones. You’re the only one here trying to convince yourself that Lebron is 6’9”. Kanter is a morning measurement as well.

Response: Pretty obvious nothing. What you talking about favored by camera bruh?? Lebron's face was glued to Kanter's. You can't do what Lebron did to Kanter if Kanter was 2.5 inches taller. I guess there is no cure for stupid.

Stupidly won’t prevail so you obviously won’t. And as far as the standard, it just said that Rob estimates as close to AN afternoon as he could or that we should assume they are. So you use one or the other. Nobody cares what your preference is. That’s the standard for the site. By that statement, It sounds as if that’s an excuse because you know that your estimates are wrong. And Kendrick Perkins was always listed at 6’10” on the web and in programs. He was never listed at 7’0”. Don’t make stuff up. That said he is 6’8” barefoot

Perk is shorter than KD

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Mickie said on 14/Aug/20
@ Yao is 7-8 - Fair enough about not bringing emotion into estimates. I trust you on that, even if I don't agree with some of your estimates.
Canson said on 14/Aug/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 12/Aug/20
@Mickie, Brother I don't estimate height based on emotion. I am not a huge Lebron fan cause he never participated in the Slamdunk contest. Lebron and Kanter were rubbing into each other's faces eye to eye, I'd say that's way more reliable than a staged photoshoot with Carmelo. If Lebron was 6-7, he wouldn't be able to rub his face into Kanter like that. Mickie, you should try doing what Lebron did to Kanter with someone who is 2.5/3inches inches taller than you, can't be done. You might be able to dig your forehead into his nose, but yall won't be eye to eye. Also regarding Bird/Magic, how much more accurate can you get than a back to back photo for comparing heights? For every photo where Bird looks taller, there is also one where Magic looks taller, so what gives? Also, Bird can't be 6-8 because he is 1+ inches shorter than 6-8 1/2/6-9 Detlef Schrempf.

You do base your estimate on emotion. And here is the “6’8 1/2 Detlef Schrempf” and Bird. Keep in mind if either of them is likely to have lost any height, it would’ve been Bird with his back issues.

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Mickie said on 13/Aug/20
@ Yao is 7-8 - You discounted the Lebron/Carmelo photo because it's a staged shoot, but you swear the one photo of Bird and Magic in the Converse ad (which is also a staged shoot) is gospel truth? It doesn't add up. Plus we have video footage of the two from the Converse commercial, and Bird looked taller: Click Here
Yao is 7-8 said on 13/Aug/20
@Canson, Editor Rob was just providing some guidelines, by no means is average height a requirement unless we talking Guinness Book. I use max height during the day because it's just easier. You want to drive yourself crazy with what height got measured when during the day then go ahead. As Wilt Chamberlain said, who controls the asylum?

Perkins used to be listed as 7 feet, but got knocked down to 6-10, probably his barefoot height. Ain't no way is Perk 6-8.

Canson said on 11/Aug/20
Pretty obvious Lebron is favored by the Camera Yao is 7-8. If you’re going to use pics then use good ones. You’re the only one here trying to convince yourself that Lebron is 6’9”. Kanter is a morning measurement as well.

Response: Pretty obvious nothing. What you talking about favored by camera bruh?? Lebron's face was glued to Kanter's. You can't do what Lebron did to Kanter if Kanter was 2.5 inches taller. I guess there is no cure for stupid.
Canson said on 12/Aug/20
@Mickie: yea but it shouldn’t be about who he’s a fan of though. I am a big fan of Jordan, Barkley, Olajuwon, Wade, Nowitzki amongst others. Do I think Jordan is 6’6”? Nope I have him at his measured 6’4.5 or somewhere around that. Do I think Olajuwon is 7’0”? Nope I have him at 6’9” or a hair over. Wade I have at 6’3 Dirk 6’10/6’11. He does think that way. He called us haters for guessing players below their NBA billed heights which we know are in shoes. He got some reason doesn’t believe that. And all players mentioned are players who played before 2019-20 when they were “supposedly” measured except Lebron. Melo was not measured this year as he wasn’t in camp. He mentioned Kendrick Perkins who measured 6’8.25” when he was drafted from what I recall. He is shorter than Garnett by a bit so it’s believable. Ditto for Durant. That’s not a 6’10 guy with a 6’9.5

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Hopefully common sense will prevail eventually but with him, I can’t see that happening for some reason. You see how inconsistent he is. He acknowledged that Adam Silver tried to institute some type of uniformity this year with measurements but that was only when it was convenient and made guys like Durant Lebron and Simmons either taller or what they were listed previously (in Simmons’ case). But with the other players who didn’t play in 2019-20, he simply used their listed heights and said that’s how tall they were such as Perkins etc. that’s called picking and choosing. So I guess JJ Redick is really 6’4 yet he’s listed 6’3” now and is even shorter than that. He’s under 6’3” next to players on the Pelicans. I estimate 6’2.5-.75 where I used to think he was near 6’4 with Sheldon Williams who I have played against and was about 3” taller than me. Maybe bad pics are what I used. But That’s indicative of the pre drafts being way off because his reads 6’4 barefoot and 6’4.75 in shoes so many of them were off to begin. That’s Redick’s shoe measurement 6’4 flat in shoes at best.
Yao is 7-8 said on 12/Aug/20
@Mickie, Brother I don't estimate height based on emotion. I am not a huge Lebron fan cause he never participated in the Slamdunk contest. Lebron and Kanter were rubbing into each other's faces eye to eye, I'd say that's way more reliable than a staged photoshoot with Carmelo. If Lebron was 6-7, he wouldn't be able to rub his face into Kanter like that. Mickie, you should try doing what Lebron did to Kanter with someone who is 2.5/3inches inches taller than you, can't be done. You might be able to dig your forehead into his nose, but yall won't be eye to eye. Also regarding Bird/Magic, how much more accurate can you get than a back to back photo for comparing heights? For every photo where Bird looks taller, there is also one where Magic looks taller, so what gives? Also, Bird can't be 6-8 because he is 1+ inches shorter than 6-8 1/2/6-9 Detlef Schrempf.
Canson said on 12/Aug/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 10/Aug/20
@Canson, No, I think we talking max height during the day at this site. Otherwise you will be going down a very slippery slope trying to figure out whose height got measured when during the day. It's like that commercial with the guy frying an egg and saying "this is your brain on drugs". And what's your source that Perk dropped from 6-10 to 6-8 1/4? Are you saying Perk is a 6-8 guy playing center?


You really are dense.

Q: Are the heights listed with shoes?
A: No. Assume every height as though the celebrity was measured barefoot. This isn't the NBA! I make no claim as to whether any listed height is an evening or early morning one, but technically I think you are better off saying your height based on the time when people get measured on average, which obviously wouldn't be out of bed, but might be about 5 hours after waking. After you've been standing for 5-6 hours you won't shrink much more during the rest of the day compared to how much you shrink in the time period from waking up till lunchtime.
As of November 2017, there are around 5100 Male and 5100 Females listed, with an average peak height of 5ft 10.75 for the Males and 5ft 5 and 1/4 for the Females.

NBA players have historically been listed in shoes. Perkins retired wel before this “rule” or lack thereof was instituted in 2019.

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He didn’t even play the 2019 season.

So look at this listing. How many players here are listed at their barefoot listings?

Carmelo is listed 6’8” but measured 6’6.25. That’s what he is
Lebron is listed 6’9 (6’8 previously) but measured 6’7.25.


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So yes you are dense
Mickie said on 11/Aug/20
@ Yao is 7-8 - Why do you trust that photo of Lebron and Kanter so much, but discount the one where he's edged by 6'6.25" Carmelo Anthony? Same as the marketing photo of Magic/Bird, you trust that a lot but discount a superior photo of them at the Olympics or the video of them at Bird's retirement event.

Not that I think Lebron is 6'6", I believe him to be a good 6'7". I just don't see any reason why that photo of him with Kanter is better for judging height than the one with Carmelo.

I'm guessing you're a big Lebron fan and believe him to be head and shoulders above all other players except maybe Jordan. Having him be bigger than Magic and Bird would bolster the argument that he would've been dominant in their era. Fact of the matter is, you can still put him at number 1 or 2 on your GOAT list even if he's 6'7". Just saying.
Canson said on 11/Aug/20
Anyone who says that Yao is 7-7 or 7-8 and that Lebron is 6-9 is mentally challenged
Canson said on 11/Aug/20
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Pretty obvious Lebron is favored by the Camera Yao is 7-8. If you’re going to use pics then use good ones. You’re the only one here trying to convince yourself that Lebron is 6’9”. Kanter is a morning measurement as well
Yao is 7-8 said on 10/Aug/20
Canson said on 9/Aug/20
You don’t sound intelligent with that last sentence you just wrote.The standard on this site is afternoon heights. So if you’re going to use afternoon for some then you need to use it for everyone. You can’t choose one just to make Lebron the height you want him to be. And Kendrick Perkins only measured 6’8.25” and Kanter 6’9.75 (morning height).

So by your own admission Kanter is 6-9 3/4. Oh then tell me please, intelligent one, how in the world is a 6-7 Lebron nearly the same height as the 6-9 3/4 Kanter in the pics below? One of us is mentally challenged, but it ain't me.

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Yao is 7-8 said on 10/Aug/20
@Canson, No, I think we talking max height during the day at this site. Otherwise you will be going down a very slippery slope trying to figure out whose height got measured when during the day. It's like that commercial with the guy frying an egg and saying "this is your brain on drugs". And what's your source that Perk dropped from 6-10 to 6-8 1/4? Are you saying Perk is a 6-8 guy playing center?

@Editor Rob, Please clarify. We talking max height during the day at your website here and not just "afternoon height", right?
Mickie said on 10/Aug/20
@ Yao is 7-8 - Bird has lost some height, I don't believe he's 6''9"-ish anymore. Lebron on the other hand has never been more than 6'7.25".
Canson said on 10/Aug/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 9/Aug/20
Mickie said on 6/Aug/20
@Yao is 7-8 - And you think what, Lebron is a full inch taller or something?
Response: than who? Kevin Love? Correct, Lebron is 1" taller than Love IMO.

@Mickie, so explain how Larry could be 6-9 and shorter than 6-8 1/2/6-9 Detlef Schrempf?

@Slim 6'1, are you talking about Shawn Bradley at 228cm? Cause Yao ain't lanky, dude is over 300 lbs, and some Chinese fans estimate Yao's true height to be 233cm (7-7 3/4) to which I agree.

Yao said in an interview that he is almost 7’5 and once that he was almost 7’4”. I believe the almost 7’5”. Bradley Muresan Manute Bol were all taller than he is
Yao is 7-8 said on 9/Aug/20
Mickie said on 6/Aug/20
@Yao is 7-8 - And you think what, Lebron is a full inch taller or something?
Response: than who? Kevin Love? Correct, Lebron is 1" taller than Love IMO.

@Mickie, so explain how Larry could be 6-9 and shorter than 6-8 1/2/6-9 Detlef Schrempf?

@Slim 6'1, are you talking about Shawn Bradley at 228cm? Cause Yao ain't lanky, dude is over 300 lbs, and some Chinese fans estimate Yao's true height to be 233cm (7-7 3/4) to which I agree.
Canson said on 9/Aug/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 7/Aug/20
@Canson, Mickie, No way no way. Are you saying Commissioner Silver failed in his integrity campaign for NBA heights? While I agree that some players' remeasured heights were false, Lebron's 6-9 is for sure real. Even before the re-measurement watching some of the games I was wondering how at supposedly 6-8 with shoes Lebron was looking eye to eye with 6-10/6-11 centers such as Kanter, Kendrick Perkins, etc. His 6-8 1/2 barefoot height explained it. And what's with this morning/evening height nonsense? If you touch a height during any part of the day, you are that tall. If you are 6-6 at 8am and drops to 5-10 by 8pm, then you can still say you are 6-6 IMHO.

You don’t sound intelligent with that last sentence you just wrote.The standard on this site is afternoon heights. So if you’re going to use afternoon for some then you need to use it for everyone. You can’t choose one just to make Lebron the height you want him to be. And Kendrick Perkins only measured 6’8.25” and Kanter 6’9.75 (morning height). Perk is clearly shorter than 6’9.5 Kevin Durant. Durant is also shorter than Anthony Davis who was measured 6’9.75 so it’s debatable Durant was measured earlier in the day. Durant has Lebron by minimum 2”. Anyone with a brain can see that. And Commish Silver didn’t fail anything. It’s impossible for him to witness all 450 players in the league get measured. Even if he had someone else witness it there would be errors and blatant cheating if someone inadvertently placed a shoe height in the barefoot column.
Mickie said on 9/Aug/20
"Are you saying Commissioner Silver failed in his integrity campaign for NBA heights? While I agree that some players' remeasured heights were false,"

Yes, Lebron is one of the some players. The guy is not 6'9" like Larry Bird was.
Canson said on 9/Aug/20
@Yao is 7-8: Bird is clearly taller than Magic. Bird was not 6’7” range in his prime. He was 6’9” or very close to it.

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My guesses are what Mickie provided:

Bird: 6’8.75-6’9”
Magic: 6’7.25-.5”
Jordan: 6’4.5-.75 range
Clyde Drexler and Chris Mullin Are both somewhere around 6’5” maybe slightly under as well
Stockton was max 6’ at times looking 5’11
slim 6'1 said on 8/Aug/20
228cm en lanky cvnt, would make 6' to 6'5 guys look normal
Yao is 7-8 said on 7/Aug/20
@Canson, Mickie, No way no way. Are you saying Commissioner Silver failed in his integrity campaign for NBA heights? While I agree that some players' remeasured heights were false, Lebron's 6-9 is for sure real. Even before the re-measurement watching some of the games I was wondering how at supposedly 6-8 with shoes Lebron was looking eye to eye with 6-10/6-11 centers such as Kanter, Kendrick Perkins, etc. His 6-8 1/2 barefoot height explained it. And what's with this morning/evening height nonsense? If you touch a height during any part of the day, you are that tall. If you are 6-6 at 8am and drops to 5-10 by 8pm, then you can still say you are 6-6 IMHO.
Yao is 7-8 said on 7/Aug/20
@Robbe, Canson, etc. Agreed that there are pics where Larry appeared taller than Magic and vice versa. But the fact of the matter is both greats are 6-7+, boosted to 6-9 as their height wearing shoes by the NBA. Magic tends to hunch a little more, a habit formed as a big man playing the little man point guard position. But when Magic straightens up, he is as tall or slightly taller than Larry.
Mickie said on 6/Aug/20
@Robbe - Exactly. There's in my mind no plausible way the difference could be less than an inch, and probably closer to 1.5".

@Yao is 7-8 - And you think what, Lebron is a full inch taller or something?
Canson said on 6/Aug/20
Here is 6’6.25 Carmelo with 6’4.75 Kobe Bryant

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If you see the McDonald’s commercial with Lebron and Dwight Howard from back in the day, Howard who Rob lists at 6’9.25 towers over Lebron. Lebron isn’t just an inch shorter. It’s minimum 2”. Howard also is not as tall as 6’9.75 Anthony Davis. Howard is a morning measurement. Rob has him listed appropriately
Canson said on 5/Aug/20
@Mickie: I have Bird as 1.5” taller than Magic in his prime. Magic could’ve been 6’7.25-.5 and Bird 6’9ish (6’8.75-6’9). Robert Parish was only around 7’0” if that and Bird looked at least 3” shorter if not more at times. Keep in mind Mchale was listed 6’10”. Meaning barefoot was he really that? And Patrick Ewing measured in at 6’9.75 before
Canson said on 5/Aug/20
Carmelo wasn’t even measured this year. He was not with the team during training camp. He came in during the season. It’s no different than Harrison Barnes still being listed 6’8” when he “supposedly” was (or was not) measured. Barnes is not 6’8” as we all know. He’s only about 3cm taller maybe max 1.5” taller than 6’5-6’5.25 range Draymond Green. Barnes is a 6’7” morning height and about 6’6.5 afternoon
Canson said on 5/Aug/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 2/Aug/20
@Mickie, after the re-measurement Carmelo is officially listed as 6-8 barefoot, where did you get 6-6 from? Carmelo is probably 6-7 1/2 to 6-8, about an inch shorter than Lebron. In the glamour photo pose, Lebron and Carmelo looked similar, but I would trust the candid photos more, less camerawork. Dwight is 6-10, about 1 to 1.5 inches taller than Lebron, no more. Bird/Magic are 6-7ish, but not 6-8 flat. I haven't seen convincing proof that Bird is taller. Again, back to back Converse photo shows the 2 are the same height, but Bird does have fluffier hair. Lol.

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You’re wrong. Howard is 6’9” by his own admission. His 6’9.75 is a morning measurement. And Melo was measured 6’6.25” in 2003. I’ve met him in person in 2016 before as I have said many times and that’s exactly what he is. If you see him next to Kyle Korver, they’re the same height and Melo is shorter than Lebron by .75” or 1” meaning that they’re 6’6.25 and 6’7.25” pre draft listings

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Mickie said on 5/Aug/20
Lebron looking 6'6" standing right next to 6'6.25 Carmelo = Camera work. Bird looking 6'7.75" next to 6'7.5" Magic Johnson for an advertisement in one photo = fact, ignore the Olympics team photo or the video footage of them at Bird's retirement that each show an inch an a half difference.

To be clear, I do think Lebron is taller than Carmelo, but not by more than an inch.
Yao is 7-8 said on 4/Aug/20
@Canson, Mickie, LOL is right, that you 2 gents think Love is taller than Lebron. I don't know what to say. And since this is Yao page, Yao is 7-7+ barefoot.
Robbe said on 4/Aug/20
Larry was about 1.5in taller than Magic in their prime Click Here
Canson said on 3/Aug/20
@Mickie: lol the 6’9” Lebron and the 6’8” Kevin Love
Canson said on 2/Aug/20
@Mickie: I would put Lebron 6’7” flat and Love 6’7.25-.5 range
Yao is 7-8 said on 2/Aug/20
@Mickie, after the re-measurement Carmelo is officially listed as 6-8 barefoot, where did you get 6-6 from? Carmelo is probably 6-7 1/2 to 6-8, about an inch shorter than Lebron. In the glamour photo pose, Lebron and Carmelo looked similar, but I would trust the candid photos more, less camerawork. Dwight is 6-10, about 1 to 1.5 inches taller than Lebron, no more. Bird/Magic are 6-7ish, but not 6-8 flat. I haven't seen convincing proof that Bird is taller. Again, back to back Converse photo shows the 2 are the same height, but Bird does have fluffier hair. Lol.

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Mickie said on 1/Aug/20
If Lebron is 6'9" how tall is Kevin Love? Click Here
Editor Rob
In that shot I doubt Love is much taller
Mickie said on 1/Aug/20
6'7" Lebron and 6'9" Dwight Howard: Click Here

Lebron is 6'7" - 6'7.25". Magic 6'7.5" or so, Bird peak height of roughly 6'8.75" but has shrunk (probably close to an inch), MJ is 6'4.5".

Yao is hard to pin down. There aren't too many guys near his size to make estimating easy. He was shorter than Shawn Bradley, but some are convinced he was still growing significantly (I am not). Bradley also appeared to be taller than Georghe Muresan in the back to back photo, although Bradley was standing up his straightest and I'm not sure if Muresan was trying to or not. Next to 7'0" Shaq the height difference from one photo to the next can vary wildly. The man himself claims 7'3" or 7'4" - I don't quite know what to make of that.
Canson said on 1/Aug/20
@Mickie: it wouldn’t surprise me if 6’10 flat for Bosh afternoon height. Lebron could look the full listing here at times but I can see the argument for 6’7”. I would say Magic was 1.5” shorter than Bird. Bird may have been 6’8.75 or even 6’9 and Magic 6’7.25-.5 range. I could buy the full 6’9 for Bird at times but then again Patrick Ewing supposedly measured 6’9.75 so 6’8.75 could be right. And Bird wasn’t as tall as Mchale or those guys on the front line in Boston
Canson said on 1/Aug/20
@Mickie: it wouldn’t surprise me if 6’10 flat for Bosh afternoon height. Lebron could look the full listing here at times but I can see the argument for 6’7”
Mickie said on 31/Jul/20
Bosch is 6'10.25" not 6'11". Lebron is 6'7". Maybe 6'7.25". You can find pictures where he looks taller but also some where he looks 6'6": Click Here

Bird was clearly taller than Magic in that video (it's just from YouTube no sketchy site) and had Magic by 1" - 1.5" range in their playing days. You might be able to find a few pictures where Magic looks as tall or slightly taller, but in the best quality pictures/video Bird has a notable height advantage.
Canson said on 31/Jul/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 30/Jul/20
Canson said on 18/Jul/20
@Yao is 7-8: yea Shaq does joke around but he could be honest about his own height. But do you see 7-8” between he and Yao? No

Canson said on 9/Jul/20
@Yao is 7-8: but you’ve never met either guy. And Shaq exaggerates. So if Yao is 7-8 which is absurd because the NBA listed him at 7’6”, Shaq claimed to be 6’11”. Do you see 9” between them? No. That’s about a 5” difference tops

Response: If Shaq had said "I think Yao is 8 feet!", then I would agree that he was joking and exaggerating. But I think by saying Yao is 7-8 Shaq was really trying to give an honest estimation of Yao's true height. And yes, I do see 8+ inches separating Yao/Shaq, and it's not just me, if you read the comments on Shaq's instagram, many others commented that Yao looked 8 to 10 inches taller than Shaq.

Yao is 7-7/7-8 barefoot and should have been NBA's tallest player instead of Muresan, period.

You’re definitely not serious with that statement. Muresan was taller so was Bradley as was Manute Bol
Canson said on 31/Jul/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 30/Jul/20
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Does Anthony Davis still look that much taller than King Lebron in the 2 pics above? Thought so, not so much. Lebron 6-9, Anthony 6-10, barefoot.

When you cherry pick the pics he doesn’t. It’s obvious Lebron is favored in both and that one is cropped. Use the video Rob colored of the two and it’s open/shut case. It adds up with what you see on TV between the two.
Canson said on 31/Jul/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 31/Jul/20
@mickie, oh so we are going to use Chris Bosh now, are we? Well, Bosh is taller true, but not as much as that cherry-picked photo taken with special camera lens seemed to show. Below are better pics, including a face to face pic. I don't see the King looking up at Bosh do you? Bosh is 6-11, Lebron 6-9, about 2 inches taller. What the problem is?

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I can't view your Magic/Bird video. The link leads to a virus. Anyhow, I already said that in some photos Bird appeared taller and in others Magic did. Truth is, they are equal in height, which is 6-7. Bird is not as tall as Detlef, and Detlef is listed as 6-10 with shoes, or about 6-8 1/2/6-9 barefoot, same as Lebron.

Bosh is 6’10”. Not 6’11”. Lebron is 6’7”. There’s 3” between them
Yao is 7-8 said on 31/Jul/20
@mickie, oh so we are going to use Chris Bosh now, are we? Well, Bosh is taller true, but not as much as that cherry-picked photo taken with special camera lens seemed to show. Below are better pics, including a face to face pic. I don't see the King looking up at Bosh do you? Bosh is 6-11, Lebron 6-9, about 2 inches taller. What the problem is?

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I can't view your Magic/Bird video. The link leads to a virus. Anyhow, I already said that in some photos Bird appeared taller and in others Magic did. Truth is, they are equal in height, which is 6-7. Bird is not as tall as Detlef, and Detlef is listed as 6-10 with shoes, or about 6-8 1/2/6-9 barefoot, same as Lebron.
Yao is 7-8 said on 30/Jul/20
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Does Anthony Davis still look that much taller than King Lebron in the 2 pics above? Thought so, not so much. Lebron 6-9, Anthony 6-10, barefoot.
Yao is 7-8 said on 30/Jul/20
Canson said on 18/Jul/20
@Yao is 7-8: yea Shaq does joke around but he could be honest about his own height. But do you see 7-8” between he and Yao? No

Canson said on 9/Jul/20
@Yao is 7-8: but you’ve never met either guy. And Shaq exaggerates. So if Yao is 7-8 which is absurd because the NBA listed him at 7’6”, Shaq claimed to be 6’11”. Do you see 9” between them? No. That’s about a 5” difference tops

Response: If Shaq had said "I think Yao is 8 feet!", then I would agree that he was joking and exaggerating. But I think by saying Yao is 7-8 Shaq was really trying to give an honest estimation of Yao's true height. And yes, I do see 8+ inches separating Yao/Shaq, and it's not just me, if you read the comments on Shaq's instagram, many others commented that Yao looked 8 to 10 inches taller than Shaq.

Yao is 7-7/7-8 barefoot and should have been NBA's tallest player instead of Muresan, period.
Canson said on 29/Jul/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 28/Jul/20
@Canson,Mickie, etc.
Anthony Davis IS taller than King Lebron, so what's your point again? And it's not a 3 inch difference, more like 1 to 1.75 inch. Lebron might be 6-8 1/2 and Anthony 6-10 1/4, so Lebron gets rounded up to 6-9 and Anthony down to 6-10. See pic I posted of Lebron/Kanter I posted on Lebron. Kanter is about the same height as Davis. Lebron is about 6-8 1/2/6-9 barefoot, no doubt.

It sounds to me as if you want Lebron to be taller than he is. You didn’t even know Davis measured 6’9.75 But when it was presented to you, You minimized the difference. And Kanter only measured 6’9.75 early morning at the combine. That’s why you don’t see as much. So he’s 6’9.25-.5 range. Lebron is clearly 2.5-3” shorter than Lebron. Why would Rob also say it if it’s not true. 1-1.75”? That’s crazy. Look at the video on Lebron’s page. I just posted it. Rob made the video and that’s a real picture of the two of them that he based the height chart against. So he can’t and you can’t exaggerate and say it’s less. Lebron is no more than what Rob lists him if Davis is 6’9.75 and a guy like Paul George is 6’7.75 (not sure what time of the day) and he’s taller than Lebron
Canson said on 29/Jul/20
@Yao is 7-8: you’re joking right? How in the world do you only see 1-1.75” between Lebron and Davis? Rob did a video and a height chart and it’s clearly 2.5-3”
Mickie said on 29/Jul/20
Lebron with 6'3.25" Wade (you could argue less, really, but to give you the benefit of the doubt we'll give him that) and 6'10.25" Bosch: Click Here and the first picture in the Click Here

Lebron is 6'7" - 6'7.25". Magic was somewhere around 6'7.5" peak and I think he's still in the 6'7" - 6'7.5" range. Larry Bird was more like 6'8.75" if not 6'9", today has lost a bit more height due to back issues but is still around 6'8" or so. Even today he'd probably be a half inch to an inch taller than Lebron.
Mickie said on 29/Jul/20
@ Yao is 7-8 - first of all, that photo of Bird and Magic doesn't show their feet or the ground. Second of all, even if we are to presume they are standing on an even ground, you cherry picked the photo. Bird looks an inch taller than Magic here: Click Here The difference in reality is probably more than an inch in Larry's favor, though. Here is video footage of the two Click Here You can see when Magic first comes out, and also when they embrace later in the video, Bird has a discernible height advantage over Magic.

Anthony Davis has more than an inch on Lebron - I would recommend watching Rob's video on Lebron's real height.
Yao is 7-8 said on 28/Jul/20
@Canson,Mickie, etc.
Anthony Davis IS taller than King Lebron, so what's your point again? And it's not a 3 inch difference, more like 1 to 1.75 inch. Lebron might be 6-8 1/2 and Anthony 6-10 1/4, so Lebron gets rounded up to 6-9 and Anthony down to 6-10. See pic I posted of Lebron/Kanter I posted on Lebron. Kanter is about the same height as Davis. Lebron is about 6-8 1/2/6-9 barefoot, no doubt.

I agree with you in some pics Bird looked taller, but in others Magic looked taller. In the pic I posted Michael was standing on a chair or something but Magic/Bird were on flat ground. Below is the same pic but you can see their legs. S. please stop the nonsense. Bird is not taller than Magic. If anything, Magic is slightly taller when he stands straight. No way is Bird 6-9 barefoot. Detlef Schrempf is barely 6-9, probably the same height as Lebron, and he looked 1-2 inches taller than Larry (see pic in my other post). Bird/Magic is 6-7 barefoot. No doubt.

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Yao is 7-8 said on 27/Jul/20
@Mickie, Yeh well Miller IS shorter than Bird, what's your point? Miller barefoot might only be 6-5ish. That photo of Bird/Miller exaggerated the height difference since Bird was closer to camera and Miller was hunched over. Anyhow, Bird is not taller than Magic. If you won't accept the Magic/Bird back to back photo and the Olympics photo, then nothing will convince you.
Mickie said on 26/Jul/20
Better comparison of Bird/Magic:
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Lebron and Anthony Davis:
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Canson said on 25/Jul/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 23/Jul/20
@Mickie, I'd go with the Converse Bird/Magic back to back photo. The Olympics photo was taken with a panoramic lens, which curved everything. Here is a better photo of Bird/Magic on the Olympics team, Jordan obviously was standing on something. Still think Bird is taller than Magic? Come on, they are both 6-7ish brother.
Click Here

Brother King Lebron's 6-9 barefoot height was legit. Just google the Lebron/Kanter fight and you can see for yourself that Lebron was clearly eye to eye with 6-10 (formerly 6-11) Kanter. During Bird/Magic days all the heights were measured with shoes. Ralph Sampson boasted 7-4, until he stood next to Kareem during the 2012 Hall of Fame speech and got exposed cause even an elderly Kareem was slightly taller than the "7-4" Ralph. LMAO.
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Mickie is correct. Bird even acknowledged that he was taller than Magic but to a lesser degree as he said about an inch. It’s clear in their primes that Bird was about as close to 6’9 as you get. Magic was a strong 6’7” range peak. As for Lebron he didn’t even measure 6’9”. He “allegedly” measured 6’8.5”. However the reality is:

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Same as when drafted max. He looks close to 3” shorter than 6’9.75 Anthony Davis Davis and Rob did a video on the two. You should google it some time.
Mickie said on 25/Jul/20
@ Yao is 7-8 - no way man, that's not a better picture of Magic/Bird. Jordan is towering over them, so we know it's staged. Lebron is 6'7 - Anthony Davis has a lot of height on him.
Yao is 7-8 said on 23/Jul/20
@Mickie, I'd go with the Converse Bird/Magic back to back photo. The Olympics photo was taken with a panoramic lens, which curved everything. Here is a better photo of Bird/Magic on the Olympics team, Jordan obviously was standing on something. Still think Bird is taller than Magic? Come on, they are both 6-7ish brother.
Click Here

Brother King Lebron's 6-9 barefoot height was legit. Just google the Lebron/Kanter fight and you can see for yourself that Lebron was clearly eye to eye with 6-10 (formerly 6-11) Kanter. During Bird/Magic days all the heights were measured with shoes. Ralph Sampson boasted 7-4, until he stood next to Kareem during the 2012 Hall of Fame speech and got exposed cause even an elderly Kareem was slightly taller than the "7-4" Ralph. LMAO.
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Mickie said on 23/Jul/20
How tall was Reggie Miller? He was listed at 6'7" but Bird could make him look pretty small:
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Editor Rob
Does describe himself that tall....could be shoe claim
Mickie said on 22/Jul/20
To further my point: Click Here

Larry Bird is 6'8.75" - 6'9". Magic Johnson was closer to 6'7.5" than his listed 6'9" and Michael Jordan closer to 6'4.5" than his listed 6'6". If Larry was 6'7" range Magic couldn't have been more than 6'6" or so and Jordan must be 6'3" range.
Yao is 7-8 said on 22/Jul/20
@Canson, Brother Yao was measured 7-5 3/4 barefoot in 2004 by the NBA which you even acknowledged as a "morning height", yet you still want to make Yao 7-5, his "evening height". How is 7-5 any more accurate than 7-5 3/4? I think whatever is your tallest during the day should be your true height. But I still think Yao is 7-7+ barefoot.
Mickie said on 22/Jul/20
@Yao is 7-8 - no offense man, but if you think Lebron is taller than a peak Larry Bird I think you're the delusional one. Lebron is about 6'7", Larry was legitimately 6'8.5" - 6'9" range barefoot.
Canson said on 22/Jul/20
@Mickie: yea he looks 7’4/7’5 tante typically. I think anything over 7’5 flat is too much and I really only give him that because he can stand to lose a lot throughout the day
Canson said on 22/Jul/20
@Junior: Rob had him Better before at 7’5”. Also is Love really 6’7.75? I doubt it
Yao is 7-8 said on 21/Jul/20
If yall say that Yao is 7-5, then Muresan is 7-4/7-5, because there is no way that Muresan is 2 inches taller than Yao and still looking shorter while they are next to each other. What's more, the camera was located to the right, favoring Muresan. Anybody who thinks Yao is only 7-5 needs to have their head checked. Yao is 300% 7-7+, unless Muresan is only 7-4/7-5.
Yao is 7-8 said on 20/Jul/20
@Canson, Brother Bird is not taller than Magic, and both are 6-7 range. And King James is about 6-8 1/2/6-9 barefoot, about 1.5 inches taller than Bird/Magic.
Yao is 7-8 said on 20/Jul/20
@Mickie, if you read the thread the Yao/Bradley photo was taken in 2002 when Yao was 7-5 and still growing. Great pic you posted, but notice Yao was bending his legs? You are right though, Yao is well-known for under-stating his height, guess secretly he wishes to be shorter and not stand out so much.
Canson said on 19/Jul/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 17/Jul/20

You’re a like able poster I’ll say and you’re respectful in these posts but saying that Yao is over 7’7” let alone 7’8 raises eyebrows and challenges your credibility. Rob listing him 7’5.5 was a stretch alone
Canson said on 19/Jul/20
Mickie said on 15/Jul/20
Click Here That's not 7'8", that looks like 7'5" max.

Agreed and Love is even said to be closer to 6’7” than 6’8”. As for the listings today, many of the megastars dictated their listings. Harden remained 6’5, Lebron 6’9 now, Kawhi Leonard 6’7” then others who simply remained their heights or just went down an inch. Jimmy Butler is another example. He supposedly measured 6’6” barefoot when he’s shorter than Kawhi Leonard who measured the same. Not to mention Leonard looks a weak 6’6” more often than not and Butler looks strong 6’5 range. I would expect Magic and Jordan to remain 6’9 and 6’6 if they played.
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 19/Jul/20
@Mickie said on 15/Jul/20
Click Here That's not 7'8", that looks like 7'5" max.


Look at Yao leg standing and tilt down his head with 6'7.75" Kevin Love i did say 7'5 was a relax posture there. 7'5 1/2 listing is nailed. 7'8 is a joke.
Mickie said on 19/Jul/20
Yao also claimed 7'4" to Shaq, apparently. I think that's more believable than 7'3", but either way he's either undercutting his height by a lot or he's not as tall as some think. I think he often looks 7'4" to 7'5" in photos, but yes sometimes I can see him looking taller. There were pictures where he dwarfed some already very tall guys.

My problem with the over 7'7" estimate is pictures like the one with Shawn Bradley (I don't buy that Yao grew several inches after that) or photos like this: Click Here
Canson said on 19/Jul/20
@Yao is 7-8: Magic if they’re being honest would get 6’8”. Again if they’re being honest. Harden is still listed 6’5 when he’s around 6’3.5 and Lebron got 6’8.5 when he’s 6’7”. If they measure in the early morning Harden would be 6’4” flat max and Lebron probably enough to round to 6’8”. Magic if he got an early morning would get close to 6’8” if not right at. But bird was a legit 6’9” barefoot or very close To it in the afternoon. It’s possible Bird would even get 6’10” if they measure him at 6’9.5 early morning
Canson said on 19/Jul/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 17/Jul/20
@Canson, Brother I do believe with 100% conviction that if Yao and Bradley stood back to back today, barefoot, you will clearly see Yao being about 1 to 2 inches taller than Bradley. Unfortunately we will probably never get the chance. However, stay tuned for more Yao/Mingming Sun pics since they are countrymen. And brother you got to admit that, if Yao stood next to Sun and looked similar in height, then there is no way that Yao is only 7-6, given that Sun is a Guinness verified 7-9. Yes or no?

Yao was fully grown when they stood back to back so you’re wrong. Yao didn’t grow once he was in the league. And Yao would not be similar to Sun. Sun would be clearly several inches taller. Go ahead and post pics if you have them
Yao is 7-8 said on 19/Jul/20
@Duhon, Brother I agree with you 100%. Yao came from a very different sporting culture that emphasized humility and team, where dunking on someone was a big insult and scoring 60 pts a game guaranteed that you got ostracized by the team. There is a video of the hotdogging streetballer "the Professor" playing an exhibition in China. The professor did one of his signature moves, bouncing the ball off a defender's head, in the USA that would get ooo's and aaa's and that would be it, but the Chinese player instantly started throwing punches and minutes later was still boiling. The professor looked confused and shook his head. What the Professor didn't understand was that it was a clash of cultures. In China, like much of Asia, basketball is literally non-contact. If you drive hard to the basket, a Chinese defender will most likely lay off you for an easy score. In the USA, we would laugh at the weak Chinese defense, but the reason behind it is that growing up these Chinese players learned that if you fouled someone hard, you would likely get punched in the face or worse, a cement block to the head. Thanks to the NBA, the basketball culture is changing rapidly in China, but you still see lots and lots of fights in the CBA (Chinese basketball Assoc)over at worst flagrant 1 fouls. Yao grew up during this transition period so that over the years it became a habit for him to downplay his height and skills. The NBA has changed Yao, but he still can't shed that shyness and humility so Yao would never say something like "I am taller than Bradley. If Bradley is 7-6, then I am 7-10!" That bravado is not part of Yao and never will be, unfortunately.
Yao is 7-8 said on 18/Jul/20
@Mickie, the Converse sneaker photo below is probably the most iconic Bird/Magic back to back photo and I don't see Bird being taller than Magic. Both are in the 6-7 range barefoot. You are delusional if you think Larry Legend is 6-9 or even 6-8 range barefoot as that would make Bird 6-10 with sneakers.

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Here's Larry Legend with 6-9 (6-10 with shoes) Detlef Schrempf and you can see Detlef is 1-2 inches taller than Bird.

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Lebron is another story. Google the fight Lebron had with 6-10 Enes Kanter, they were eye to eye with each other with Kanter looking only barely taller. After Commissioner Silver ordered the new height rules, it made sense because Lebron was listed as 6-9 barefoot. I think King James is truly 6-8 1/2 to 6-9 barefoot and about 6-10 with sneakers on, or similar in height as Andre the Giant!
Canson said on 18/Jul/20
@Yao is 7-8: yea Shaq does joke around but he could be honest about his own height. But do you see 7-8” between he and Yao? No
Duhon said on 17/Jul/20
@Mickie very few people know what it's like to be 7'5", for many including Yao he probably felt/feels ostracized or a like a "freak" and would rather downplay than overstate his height. He always struck me as one of the few NBA players who didn't seems so proud of his height.
Yao is 7-8 said on 17/Jul/20
@Canson, Brother I do believe with 100% conviction that if Yao and Bradley stood back to back today, barefoot, you will clearly see Yao being about 1 to 2 inches taller than Bradley. Unfortunately we will probably never get the chance. However, stay tuned for more Yao/Mingming Sun pics since they are countrymen. And brother you got to admit that, if Yao stood next to Sun and looked similar in height, then there is no way that Yao is only 7-6, given that Sun is a Guinness verified 7-9. Yes or no?
Yao is 7-8 said on 17/Jul/20
@Mickie, If you read some of the older postings in the thread, your article was well discussed. The interview took place through a translator when Yao's English was still basic at best. Yao is well-known for under-stating his height, especially when asked, either as a joke or for some other reasons. I once knew a giant bouncer at a bar who was at least 6-10, but told everybody he was 6-7, even though he towered over dudes who were 6-5/6-6 Lol. I think Yao said 7-3 to the reporter in a bantering way, as in I am 7-6 with shoes but barefoot I am actually 7-3, wink wink. The fact that the reporter didn't get the joke and actually bought it kind of showed he was probably a bit envious and Yao probably could see he had the Napoleon-complex, so to make him feel better, Yao said I am actually short, I am 7-3. Lol. Brother, believe me, Yao is over 7-7 barefoot, just look at the photos in the thread of Yao standing next to Shaq, Lauri Markannen, and most importantly, 7-7 Muresan, supposedly the tallest player in NBA history and you will see what I mean.
Canson said on 16/Jul/20
So He got measured in China at 7’5” barefoot. The 7’5.75 and was finished growing. The 7’5.75 he supposedly got in the NBA was a morning measurement. A guy that size can lose considerable height throughout the day to where he could be under that 7’5 mark by evening. Really Rob had his listing correct previously
Canson said on 16/Jul/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 12/Jul/20
@Canson, Bro, I've never met Yao true which is why I rely on what someone who has known Yao for years said - Shaq. Whereas you've never met Yao either, but still firmly believe that your estimate of Yao's height is more accurate than Shaq's. It's a bit conceited to think that you are more right than the greatest center in NBA history IMHO.

Let’s use some common sense. While we can agree Yao likely isn’t 7’3 Or 7’3 3/4 why is Shaq claiming he is 7’8” any more reliable than Yao claiming 7’3 3/4? If anything Yao was the one measured. Shaq didn’t measure him. Yao is max 7’5”
Mickie said on 15/Jul/20
Bird was taller than Magic btw. Bird really was about 6'9" barefoot and would never have been listed at 6'8". Magic might be listed at 6'8" if he played today, because he was between 6'7" and 6'8", but I suspect if he wanted to be listed at 6'9" he could be (Lebron did this).
Mickie said on 15/Jul/20
Click Here That's not 7'8", that looks like 7'5" max.
Yao is 7-8 said on 15/Jul/20
@Canson, Brother it's true that Shaq jokes around at times but when it comes to height Shaq has always been serious. Shaq admitted to Howard Stern and in 2019 to Kenny/Charles on TNT that he was 6-11 3/4 barefoot and 7-1 with shoes. Shaq even stood against the wall with a ruler. When Kenny said you are 7-1, Shaq said yeh 6-11 3/4 barefoot. So does Shaq crack jokes? Sure. Was Shaq joking though when he said Yao was 7-8? Absolutely not. And brother you must be on medication if you see only 5 inches separating Yao/Shaq & Lauri Markannen. If you follow Shaq's instagram post, someone commented that Yao looked 10 to 12 inches taller. And if you follow Lauri's Twitter, numerous people commented that Lauri looked like a small child and that Yao looked 7-10.

Regarding Bird/Magic, I thought it was well known that 6-9 was their with shoes height and that without shoes they were both around 6-7 1/2. That was why I said under the new rules imposed by commissioner Silver Magic/Bird would be rounded up to 6-8. However, I also read that some players/teams disregarded Silver's instructions and measured with shoes on anyways. One glaring example was Chris Paul measuring 6-1. Everybody in the NBA knows that Chris is 5-10 barefoot. The 6-1 for Chris is him wearing sneakers and then tip-toeing. LMAO.
Mickie said on 14/Jul/20
I hate to be a buzz kill but Click Here

Why does he claim 7'3"? I have to say he looks taller, but why does he claim only that height?
Canson said on 13/Jul/20
@Yao is 7-8: I don’t see Magic and Bird being listed any differently nor would a guy like Michael Jordan be listed differently under today’s rules. Only because most of the super superstars (HOFs) in the game didn’t have their listings changed this year unless they wanted it or unless the team favored it. Example Anthony Davis wanted to be listed 6’10 and Lebron was listed 6’9” now as opposed to 6’7” his actual barefoot height. You see Harden Westbrook and Kawhi Leonard didn’t change when none of them is as tall as they are listed barefoot. Kawhi if he grew is a full 6’6” but I see that as early morning for him and 6’5.5-.75 afternoon height. Harden is under 6’4 like 6’3.5 range. The only one we could make the case for is Russ and that’s because he would measure 6’2.5-.75 range after an hour and 6’3 out of bed. As for Yao, I don’t take what Shaq said seriously because he was joking. Shaq kids around a lot and that was tongue and cheek. If you look at the two back to back that is not an 8” difference between them. That’s about 5” between them. If you see Yao with others, that’s not 8”. And Yao isn’t 2-3” taller than Bradley. Bradley measured 7’5.5 and 7’6.25 at different times
Yao is 7-8 said on 12/Jul/20
@Canson, Bro, I've never met Yao true which is why I rely on what someone who has known Yao for years said - Shaq. Whereas you've never met Yao either, but still firmly believe that your estimate of Yao's height is more accurate than Shaq's. It's a bit conceited to think that you are more right than the greatest center in NBA history IMHO.
Yao is 7-8 said on 12/Jul/20
@Canson, @RoelC, I might also add that admittedly, under the current NBA height rules, both Magic and Bird would probably be listed as 6-8, their barefoot height rounded up, rather than 6-9.
Canson said on 9/Jul/20
@Yao is 7-8: but you’ve never met either guy. And Shaq exaggerates. So if Yao is 7-8 which is absurd because the NBA listed him at 7’6”, Shaq claimed to be 6’11”. Do you see 9” between them? No. That’s about a 5” difference tops
RoelC said on 9/Jul/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 6/Jul/20
@Canson,@Chris Junior,
So what yall saying is that Shaq can't tell whether Yao is 7-5 or 7-8 and need you two to tell him? Yall think Shaq is stupid or something?
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I don't really follow this site, but I thought I check it out to see if your username was a joke, but apparently you're deadserious about it.

The accusation you make towards Canson & Chris Junior can be fired backwards against you. Are you telling me that Ming Yao doesn't know his own height? And apparently neither did the Houston Rockets?

You're quoting Shaq, who's not really a very good estimator of heights. I guess you never saw that interview with Howard Stern from the 90's. Shaq was claiming Magic Johnson was 6'9" (because that's the height Magic Johnson claimed for himself). Howard Stern, who was 6'5" himself, recently met Magic Johnson and said that Magic Johnson was barely taller than him. It was the reason why Stern was starting to question NBA heights. Shaq asked Howard Stern to stand up and than said he looked closer to 6'7", to which Stern replied: no I'm 6'5", I've been recently measured at that height.
But yeah let's take Shaq's word for it, and ignore the official listings of Ming Yao as well as the photograpic evidence of Ming Yao standing next to countless other NBA legends.

And the pic with Gheorghe Muresan is hardly irrefutable proof. We can't see anything from the waste down, so we cannot determine if stance and footwear is equal. What I can see though is that the pic is slightly tilted in Ming Yao's favour and that Muresan is slouching a bit. It's also more likely that Muresan has lost some height rather than Ming Yao growing a couple of inches after his NBA measurements at age 21-22.
Even at peak the two of them would be close in height.

Ming Yao was measured in May 2002 by NBA scouts at 7'5" Click Here
He was re-measured by the Houston Rockets in October 2002 at 7'5 ½" Click Here

Was Ming Yao still growing at the time. Doubtful, he was already in his early 20's at the time and half an inch on a 7'5" body is obviously nothing. That doesn't necessarily mean he was still growing at the time. He didn't look 7'5 ½" next to Shawn Bradley, who was also measured at that height. Click Here

If you look at his growth chart in the book Yao Ming: The Road To The NBA (page 180) Click Here you'll see a Chinese doctor measured him several times over a span of 3 ½ years. He was 6'7" at age 14 and 7'3.3" at age 17 (nearly age 18). His largest growth spurt was between December 1995 and August 1995 in which he grew 4 inches in 8 months. After that his growth rate slowed down considerably. At the Olympics in 2000 he was listed at 227cm, which is about 7'5 ⅜", which lines up with his measurements in 2002.

If Yao was 7'8" he would have been the tallest player in the NBA ever. Muresan holds that credit at 7'7", although I think Manute Bol might edge him out. Muresan seems to have been listed at 230cm in France Click Here and Manute Bol was measured at 7'6 ¾".
Yao is 7-8 said on 7/Jul/20
@Canson,@Chris Junior, @All,

Take a look at these recent photos of Yao/Shaq and Yao/Lauri Markkanen (Chicago Bull's 7 feet center). You tell me if Yao looks 8 inches taller than these two VERIFIED 7 footers.

Click Here

Here is Shaq's personal instagram post saying Yao is 7-8. Of course, according to Mr. Canson and Mr. Hernandez, Shaq lacks ability to judge height accurately like Canson or Hernandez, even though Canson/Hernandez never met Yao and Shaq was standing right next to Yao. LMFAO.

Click Here
Yao is 7-8 said on 6/Jul/20
@Canson,@Chris Junior,

So what yall saying is that Shaq can't tell whether Yao is 7-5 or 7-8 and need you two to tell him? Yall think Shaq is stupid or something?
Canson said on 3/Jul/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 26/Jun/20
@Chris Junior Hernandez 1990,

Shaq on a recent trip to China:

Shaq to Yao: How tall are you now?
Yao to Shaq: I am 7-4 (GRIN).
Shaq to Yao: (Sucks his teeth)BS, I think you are 7-8.

Case closed. Yao is 7-8. Shaq has been around tall people all his life. I think Shaq can tell if Yao is 5 or 8 inches taller than him? Yes or No?

You’re joking about him being 8” taller, right?
Canson said on 3/Jul/20
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 30/Jun/20
@Canson He could be that, but for some reason he is 7'8. So i am 6'8 and Canson you are 6'6 :)

Correction Junior. You’re 6’9 and I’m 6’7”. He’s tacking the big 3 on to Yao being he’s only 7’5” in reality lol
Yao is 7-8 said on 3/Jul/20
@Canson, @Chris Junior, Of course Mr. Canson and Mr. Hernandez, who I presume have never met Yao, know better than Shaq. Yeh, go tell Shaq what time it is because the most dominant center in NBA history needs yall to set him straight. SMH.
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 30/Jun/20
@Canson He could be that, but for some reason he is 7'8. So i am 6'8 and Canson you are 6'6 :)
Canson said on 27/Jun/20
@Junior and Rob: I’d go with A
Yao is 7-8 said on 26/Jun/20
@Chris Junior Hernandez 1990,

Shaq on a recent trip to China:

Shaq to Yao: How tall are you now?
Yao to Shaq: I am 7-4 (GRIN).
Shaq to Yao: (Sucks his teeth)BS, I think you are 7-8.

Case closed. Yao is 7-8. Shaq has been around tall people all his life. I think Shaq can tell if Yao is 5 or 8 inches taller than him? Yes or No?
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 25/Jun/20
Quote: Yao has stated "I'm 7-6".

Arguement Department: Case dismissed.
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 24/Jun/20
Rob, which one could be the lowest measurement for Yao?

A. 7'5

B. 7'5.25"

C. 7'5.5"

D. 7'5.75"
Editor Rob
At the moment I think he probably could be 7ft 5.5 by late afternoon.
Yao is 7-8 said on 24/Jun/20
@Canson, as I said before I am basing Yao's height on 1)Shaq saying that Yao is 7-8, and 2)photo of Yao/Muresan from 2009 in which Yao was taller than 7-7 Muresan. I believe 100% that Yao is taller than 7-7 barefoot, but I don't know if Yao is 7-8 flat or not. So I am not "wanting" Yao to be 7-8 any more than you "want" Yao to be 7-5. I am just basing my estimate on solid evidence, that's all! So we agree to disagree, it is what it is bro. Peace.
Yao is 7-8 said on 22/Jun/20
@Canson, Bruh, I am not "wanting" Yao to be taller. Like I said many times, I believe 100% Yao is over 7-7 barefoot. Do I know for sure if Yao is 7-8 flat? No. But Like I said, the 2 main reasons why I believe Yao is over 7-7 is because:

1. Shaq said Yao is 7-8.
2. photo of Yao/Muresan taken when Yao was 29 (as opposed to Yao/Bradley pic taken when Yao was 22) that showed Yao to be clearly taller than 7-7 Muresan.

BTW, the entire country of China knows that Yao is not truthful about his actual height. For some reason, he wants to be shorter. Yao would definitely love Canson and the others here for saying he is 7-5. I think Yao would love to be 6-11 if he could get away with it. LMAO. For now my man, we agree to disagree. Peace!
Canson said on 19/Jun/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 18/Jun/20
@Canson, Aight, I respect your opinion. I am just saying that you seem to base your opinion on Yao/Bradley photo and are stubborn about it. But it is what it is. Peace.

I respect your opinion too. If you think he’s 7’8” that’s fine but I was just saying that you shouldn’t base it on wanting someone to be taller. Based on previous comments, you thought he was 7’6 then 7’7 now 7’8” when there is no proof that he is. I don’t believe that you actually believe that he’s 7’8” from the comments made. It sounds more like it’s what you want him to be. 7’6” is more believable than 7’8”. Now I will say that the Bradley/Yao pic is just one. There are others and I get that. But I was commenting on wanting someone to be that height as opposed to them actually being it
Yao is 7-8 said on 18/Jun/20
@Canson, Aight, I respect your opinion. I am just saying that you seem to base your opinion on Yao/Bradley photo and are stubborn about it. But it is what it is. Peace.
Yao is 7-8 said on 18/Jun/20
@Canson, Aight, I respect your opinion. I am just saying that you seem to base your opinion on Yao/Bradley photo and are stubborn about it. But it is what it is. Peace.
Canson said on 16/Jun/20
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Yao is 7-8 said on 15/Jun/20
@Chris Junior, @Canson, 2 to 3 inches is not a growth spurt. Yao was 7-3 at age 20 and grew steadily about 1 inch a year until he reached 7-7+. This was documented by the NBA. Yao was 7-5 in late 2002 during rookie year, then about a year later in early 2004 Yao measured 7-5 3/4, then in 2005 before All Star Game, Yao measured 7-8 in shoes, which shocked Shaq and Duncan. These are FACTS. Google them.

@Canson, Yao didn't grow? So how do you explain the Yao/Muresan pic? SMH. I know you are milking that Yao/Bradley photo for all it's worth, but I got my Yao/Muresan photo to prove you wrong.

I’m not milking anything. He is not as tall as Muresan and he’s not 7” taller than Shaq. I’ll give him 7’5” for his afternoon height. You wanting him to be taller is not going to sway my opinion
Yao is 7-8 said on 15/Jun/20
@Chris Junior, @Canson, 2 to 3 inches is not a growth spurt. Yao was 7-3 at age 20 and grew steadily about 1 inch a year until he reached 7-7+. This was documented by the NBA. Yao was 7-5 in late 2002 during rookie year, then about a year later in early 2004 Yao measured 7-5 3/4, then in 2005 before All Star Game, Yao measured 7-8 in shoes, which shocked Shaq and Duncan. These are FACTS. Google them.

@Canson, Yao didn't grow? So how do you explain the Yao/Muresan pic? SMH. I know you are milking that Yao/Bradley photo for all it's worth, but I got my Yao/Muresan photo to prove you wrong.
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 14/Jun/20
Click Here 7'6 absolutely max is possible next to 5'11 1/2 Bear Grylls. Grow 2-3" i am not sure. But a full inch i buying that. I had a cousin started his 2nd growth spurt in 20 yrs old and stop at 22. But if Yao start grow again at 22 in 2002 a little unbelievable especially 2-3".
Canson said on 13/Jun/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 12/Jun/20
@Canson, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT YAO WAS 7-5 IN 2002, I am just saying that Yao grew 2 to 3 inches more after that. Again, look at that Yao/Muresan photo from 2009 (taken 7 years after Yao/Bradley photo from 2002).

Do you really believe what you are saying? He didn’t grow. He’s mad 7’5” now
Yao is 7-8 said on 12/Jun/20
@Canson, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT YAO WAS 7-5 IN 2002, I am just saying that Yao grew 2 to 3 inches more after that. Again, look at that Yao/Muresan photo from 2009 (taken 7 years after Yao/Bradley photo from 2002).
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 12/Jun/20
@Canson

😂😂😂 Can't if people could bet him to be 7'7. Camera tricks is everywhere not everyone noticed 😂
Canson said on 12/Jun/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 6/Jun/20
@Christian,@Chris Junior,etc.

Bro, I have never heard of Yao being measured wearing construction boots. Please don't make things up and post them as facts. 7-5 is just ludicrous, as is 8 foot. At some point in Yao's life he was 7-5, just like at some point in Christian's life he was 5 foot, but that don't mean Christian stayed 5 foot! SMH. Yao is 7-7+ barefoot that's a fact.

So you’re telling Christian not to make up things and posting them as facts yet you’re doing that stating Yao is 7’7” let alone 7’8”. 7’5 1/2 that Rob lists him is generous. You also make up things such as Yao being taller than Bradley or Muresan when he isn’t. Bradley is clearly taller than Yao and Muresan is taller than Bradley
Yao is 7-8 said on 8/Jun/20
@Christian, in that case if Yao wore 2" construction boots he would be 7-9+ or 7-10 and Mingming Sun would be 7-11. I think the best hope of seeing Yao's true height is if one day Yao and Sun stood back to back or next to each other with no funny camera angles. Sun is a bona fide 7-9 barefoot and they are both in China, so the chances are good. Stay tuned.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 7/Jun/20
@Yao is 7-8
I was just being hypothetical. I don't know if he wears construction boots or not, nor do I care. My point was that construction boots give around 2" of height, so he'd be 7'7" if he wore them, because he's more 7'5" barefoot.
Yao is 7-8 said on 6/Jun/20
@Christian,@Chris Junior,etc.

Bro, I have never heard of Yao being measured wearing construction boots. Please don't make things up and post them as facts. 7-5 is just ludicrous, as is 8 foot. At some point in Yao's life he was 7-5, just like at some point in Christian's life he was 5 foot, but that don't mean Christian stayed 5 foot! SMH. Yao is 7-7+ barefoot that's a fact.
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 6/Jun/20
@Junior
He's 7'7" with heavy duty construction boots. Rob should've kept him at a 7'5" listing.
Canson said on 5/Jun/20
@Junior: and pigs fly
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 3/Jun/20
Yao is 7-8

Alright Yao is atually 8'0 :) Click Here
Yao is 7-8 said on 2/Jun/20
@Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 and others, Nah, Yao is taller than 7-7 barefoot. You can't just write off that Yao/Muresan photo. Either Muresan is actually 7-5 or Yao is 7-8. Again, Bradley/Yao photo was taken in 2002, when Yao just turned 22 and growing, so people should stop using that photo as holy grail. Dennis Rodman was only 5-11 as a 20 yr old and then grew 8 inches in his 20s, why is it so hard to believe that Yao grew 2-3 inches in his 20s??
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 27/May/20
Yao is 7'7 with boots on.
Canson said on 23/May/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 22/May/20
@Dream,Canson,etc. So if a few NBA coaches/players exaggerate/lie about height then ALL NBA coaches/players must do the same thing, right? Way to go with the stereotyping bruh.

No I didn’t say that. But you’re putting those words in my mouth and using a straw man because it goes against what you’re trying to do which is to make Yao taller than he actually is. Yao was shorter than Bradley and Muresan both
Yao is 7-8 said on 22/May/20
@Dream,Canson,etc. So if a few NBA coaches/players exaggerate/lie about height then ALL NBA coaches/players must do the same thing, right? Way to go with the stereotyping bruh.
Yao is 7-8 said on 22/May/20
@All, I am 100% sure Yao is taller than 7-6, how much taller I am not sure either. I would say he is between 7-7 and 7-8 barefoot.
Dream said on 21/May/20
@Canson I definitely see what you mean though! Sometimes, it can be hard to take their word for it! I could be wrong too!
Yao is 7-8 said on 20/May/20
@Dream, I agree that Sun is taller than Yao. Yao is not 7-9. I just think that the difference is not 3 inches, more like 1" or so. You probably don't watch Chinese TV. I have seen live footage on Chinese TV of Yao and Sun together and the difference in height is very little. I am not sure why there aren't more photos of those 2 though. Hopefully we will see more as they are both in China and will meet again.

@All, There is only 1 photo of a 29 yr old Yao/Muresan and 2 photos of 22 yr old Yao/Bradley back to back. While I don't think anybody here is a "Yao-hater", I am not sure why some of yall favor the Yao/Bradley photos while dissing the Yao/Muresan photo? My explanation is that Yao grew taller, from 7-5 to about 7-8, what is your explanation? It seems yall are just shouting that Yao did not grow taller and Falsone is a liar and Shaq is a liar and Duncan is a liar and Yao/Muresan photo is crap without any kind of solid evidence. What's up with that? I think we need to be more fair and objective. I am not trying to "make" Yao or anybody taller or shorter. I am simply going by photos and witness statements.
Canson said on 20/May/20
@Dream: 7’5 is as high as I could give him. He’s not as tall as Bradley and Bradley measured 7’5.5 and 7’6,25 both. I don’t give credibility to what Anthony Falsone said about him growing as Ernie Grunfeld also said that Bradley Beal grew an inch one specific summer after Beal had reported a couple years before that he grew “another” inch. Net result is Beal was measured 6’3.25” when he was drafted (early morning) and is listed at 6’3” today under the new rules so he didn’t grow. GMs and officials talk up their players all the time with height and weight which to me is silly
Canson said on 20/May/20
FMExTREME said on 19/May/20
@Canson

After reading some of your posts I'm concerned why you think I'm part of someone else with multiple names, I can assure you I am me and I only ever had one name and the reason Rob is keeping the posts on here is because he knows we're all different people, anyway there's no need to hate on Yao he is a living giant of our time and a legit 7'5 & 1/2, that's what this website is all about we predict the correct height for Rob to list and a right upgrade, Yao could be in the 7'6 or 7'7 range especially with his recent photos with Shaq and Sun Ming Ming but at a estimation 7'5 1/2 is correct.

I never said anything about you to my knowledge. If I did please point it out to me
Dream said on 19/May/20
FMExTREME

Dude. He doesn’t hate Yao. He’s just going by what he analyzes. If he hated Yao, he wouldn’t like his skills as a center.

Anyways, I would go for 7’5 1/2”, but not 7’7”. He’s really shorter than Shawn Bradley. Sun Ming Ming also had a footwear disadvantage and he still looks more than two or even three inches taller.

Really, this crazy argument isn’t worth it.
Canson said on 19/May/20
Yao is 7-8 said on 17/May/20
To All,

Yes I agree with Canson. Use facts, such as current photos, first person accounts, etc as much as possible. Avoid using biased opinions or unsubstantiated guesswork such as "I don't like Yao, so I am going to make him 7-4 3/4 no matter what anybody, including Shaq and Tim Duncan, says or a photo that shows Yao to be clearly taller than 7-7 Muresan says" or unreliable evidence such as "look! I found a photo of 16 year old Yao that says he is 7-3 so Yao must be 7-3 now because he didn't grow at all since he was 16!!".

@Yao is 7-8: but you just proved that you’re biased with that statement. You won’t take the 7’3” claims but if someone said Yao is 7’7” you would? Yao is not taller than Muresan. You use pics that favor Yao because you want him to be taller.
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 19/May/20
I wouldn't go above 7'5 1/2 for Yao and not below 7'5 1/4. Initially i thought he was only 7'4 1/2-7'5 more looking into it i see a strong 7'5 for Yao.
FMExTREME said on 19/May/20
@Canson

After reading some of your posts I'm concerned why you think I'm part of someone else with multiple names, I can assure you I am me and I only ever had one name and the reason Rob is keeping the posts on here is because he knows we're all different people, anyway there's no need to hate on Yao he is a living giant of our time and a legit 7'5 & 1/2, that's what this website is all about we predict the correct height for Rob to list and a right upgrade, Yao could be in the 7'6 or 7'7 range especially with his recent photos with Shaq and Sun Ming Ming but at a estimation 7'5 1/2 is correct.
Dream said on 18/May/20
@Yao

Okay, so you’re including his thick hair.

Little height difference? Look at Yao’s Hair and Sun Ming Ming’s hair. Sun Ming Ming is clearly the taller of the two.

Click Here
Dream said on 18/May/20
@Yao

Okay, so you’re including his thick hair.

Little height difference? Look at Yao’s Hair and Sun Ming Ming’s hair. Sun Ming Ming is clearly the taller of the two.

Click Here
Yao is 7-8 said on 17/May/20
To All,

Yes I agree with Canson. Use facts, such as current photos, first person accounts, etc as much as possible. Avoid using biased opinions or unsubstantiated guesswork such as "I don't like Yao, so I am going to make him 7-4 3/4 no matter what anybody, including Shaq and Tim Duncan, says or a photo that shows Yao to be clearly taller than 7-7 Muresan says" or unreliable evidence such as "look! I found a photo of 16 year old Yao that says he is 7-3 so Yao must be 7-3 now because he didn't grow at all since he was 16!!".
Canson said on 16/May/20
To all,

If we are going to argue at least argue facts honestly and not biased. Don’t make excuses just because you’re a fan of a certain person
Yao is 7-8 said on 16/May/20
@Dream, I thought you were looking at that pic too. I doubt that Yao had footwear advantage. Certain brands of slippers have very thick soles for cushioning purposes. Also, take a look at Yao's wide stance, he was basically doing a quarter split. Also, note Yao's head was leaning to the left, he wasn't standing straight. Also, the camera angle was from the left, favoring Sun a bit. Below is a pic where the camera angle favors Yao, and Yao looks taller than Sun. Despite these factors, Sun still looks max 2 inches taller. Use the ceiling beam as point of reference, and you will see what I mean. I bet if both were standing straight, back to back or shoulder to shoulder, with level camera angle, you will see very little difference in height.

Click Here
Dream said on 15/May/20
@Yao

No. I was referring to this, the one in your website, the one you claim Gheorghe Muresan is shorter than Yao Ming. — Click Here

Clearly, Sun MingMing is wearing slippers while Yao has shoes on. Yet, the top of Sun MingMing’s head is well higher than Yao’s big hair. It’s well over 2 inches for sure. 3 inches at least, excluding footwear advantage.
Yao is 7-8 said on 14/May/20
@Dream, I think you were referring to the photos of Yao, Sun, and the Brazilian soccer player Kaka, but I am not sure what you mean by Yao having footwear advantage because you can't see their shoes. Sun Mingming is taller than Yao, but all the pics had very bad camera angles with Yao looking taller in some of them because he was closer to the camera. The best photo I have seen was on one of the Chinese websites I posted previously where they were standing in a restaurant. Yao had a very wide stance with head to one side and Sun, while standing straight, looked about 1.5 to 2 inches taller MAX. This is consistent with me saying that Yao is 7-7 1/2 to 7-8 barefoot and about 7-9 with shoes. Sun is probably over 7-10 wearing shoes.
Dream said on 13/May/20
@Yao Is 7-8

Here is Gheorghe Muresan with Shawn Bradley— Click Here

And I remember seeing Sun Ming Ming, still looking at least 3 inches taller than Yao Ming, even when Yao Ming had a footwear advantage.

If Yao is 7-8, Sun Ming Ming is 7-11, which is a higher stretch.

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